Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To The 76ers Locker Room MELTDOWN
Episode Date: November 19, 2024Gil's Arena Reacts To The Philadelphia 76ers Locker Room MELTDOWN as Gilbert Arenas, Greg Oden & The Gil's Arena Crew discuss to the 76ers atrocious 2-11 start this season and react to the recent repo...rt of the team's FIREY locker room meeting where Tyrese Maxey called out Joel Embiid's leadership and sent the team into turmoil just 13 games into this season. Next, they break down a classic battle between 2 NBA Legends in Steph Curry & James Harden as the Los Angeles Clippers defeated The Golden State Warriors in a shocking upset where Harden proved he could carry this Clipper team without Kawhi Leonard and made some history as one of the games' best scorers. They then break down Damian Lillard's return to the court for the Milwaukee Bucks where Giannis Antetokounmpo and his all star teammate look to be returning to form, winning 3 out of their 4 games and signaling that Doc Rivers may be figuring things out at last. Finally, Gil & The Crew react to Inside the NBA moving to ESPN and break down the ups and downs of Greg Oden's iconic basketball Career. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Nick Young, Kenyon Martin & Greg Oden Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at http://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:05 NFL Is Taking Over NBA Christmas Day 0:12:12 Inside The NBA Moves To ESPN 0:23:08 76ers MELTDOWN With Players-Only Meeting 0:28:50 Bucks Are Back On Track 1:02:49 Clippers Warriors Instant Classic 1:29:54 Will The 76ers Make A Splash Trade? 1:35:27 James Harden Makes History 1:41:31 Greg's Experience Playing with D-Wade and B Roy 2:01:41 Greg Reflects on His Playing Career 2:05:28 Greg Gets Real On Being A Bust 2:09:33 MostlyFans 2:18:18 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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welcome back to gills arena presented by underdog you from here you went there you had to ride how many miles oh yeah you're gonna have to uh
you gotta tell me that on a recruiting trip free show combo slipping over we were talking about uh
going back down memory lane talking about running sprints suicide 17s all those familiar with
basketball 17 probably the worst form of running punishment.
I think we all are in alliance, except Gil.
He's like, mine's 17, of course.
That's why, a little gory.
Lexi said she hates 17.
I definitely hate 17.
I hate it.
I know you.
You like 17.
It's just too bad.
That would have been easy for you.
It should have been easy for you, though.
You got the most right.
You know what, I think it was after I got injured injured where I didn't like it because I got to stop.
Yeah, it was...
Like, I just wanted...
Let me just keep my momentum,
do my little turn or push off the wall.
Like, I didn't touch the line.
I just pushed the wall and just kept going.
That's going for two seconds.
Yeah, that is what it is.
Touch the line with your hand.
I had no brakes.
What's the point of that?
No brakes. What's the point of them being like, touch the line with your hand. I ain't have no brakes. What's the point of that?
No brakes.
What's the point of them being like,
touch the line with your hand?
Not doing that.
Why?
The fake one.
Just discipline, just...
Stupid.
Just dumb.
Just see if you can...
Like, when are we ever gonna do that in a game?
Touch the line.
Shit, man.
Have a ball boy that have the like, the TA's on the line.
Watch.
Oh, they used to threaten him.
Threaten the ball boy.
I dare you to call.
I dare you.
You better have an assistant coach over there.
If you got anybody with no kind of authority, they'd snitch.
Oh, yeah, he going, yeah.
He get jumped.
Yeah, he going to get jumped, absolutely.
And the player who missed it.
Oh, you got mad.
Especially if it's like the last one.
It's like, nah, man, I did mine.
Nah, y'all got to do that yourself.
Stop this Steve shit.
Yeah.
So imagine my senior at Cincinnati.
Oh, yeah.
Everybody touching line.
Over touch.
Run over the line.
Who's explaining, man?
I'm not running for y'all at all.
Oh, you know what come with it.
What about you?
Say, what does King with a missed line?
You going to fight him? No, I play.'s King, you're going to miss the line? You going to fight him?
No, I play.
I pretend.
No.
We all miss the line.
Come on, brother.
Just get to it.
I'm going to touch the ball.
I'm going to touch the line because I
don't want to be the one.
I got it for King.
I don't want to be the one.
I don't want to be the one.
I'm going to go after him.
Have you ever had a ball to the finish line?
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Push him to the finish line.
This one right here.
Hey, I dare somebody to come like, come on, man.
Come on, coach.
Hey, besides Nate McMillan, anybody else say something?
I dare you.
Yeah.
I'm going to stop right here, one foot short.
Seriously.
Nate McMillan.
But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
Exactly what you tell me to do. Whoa, whoa.
As always, we got the legend, Gilbert Arenas, here with us.
What up, what up, what up?
In our season three Gil's Arena merch.
OK, I ain't seen that sweatsuit yet.
I like the brown.
Yeah, I ain't seen it.
I like the brown.
I didn't, you know.
With the red.
Is this coffee brown?
Coffee.
Coffee brown.
You got the brown, Lex?
I do have the brown.
OK, see, everybody got the brown sweatsuit.
I might have it in my gift pack.
The T is crucial.
And on this side of the couch, we got Kenya Martin.
Back up here with us.
Yes, I have.
Long, productive night.
We got some things in the works we will tell you
all about down the road.
We got WNBA champion Lexi Brown.
Lexi!
Lexi Brown!
With the 5'4", OK.
Oh, they know that's his number.
Guys, this is just a random shirt I purchased.
Family number.
Family number.
My dad.
See?
Now go talk to Mark.
This is not a fit in with any team.
That's a big number.
Is that or not?
That's a disgusting number.
Whoa!
I appreciate it.
It's nasty.
54 is nasty.
It's a nasty number.
That's nasty work.
He meant that.
No, it's a nasty number. That's a disgusting number. That's a nasty number. It's nasty. 54 is nasty.
It's a nasty number.
That's nasty words.
He meant that.
No, it's a nasty number.
Nasty words.
That's like somebody who drink all day and just,
what number you got?
Yeah.
It's not the 55.
It's the 55.
It has nothing to do with what you're talking about.
All right, Joe.
What number you got left in there?
All we got is 54. God take it. I don't know who Gil's talking about? What number you got left in there?
54.
I take it.
I don't know who Gil's talking about.
I'm talking about the Johnson family.
That's the last pick.
Everybody's picking like, uh.
When you're the bigger kid, you got to wear the 54.
What number's this left?
We got, uh.
My daughter's fifth grade.
See, they gave them girls some of the most outlandish numbers
ever, man.
My daughter came home with an alignment number like 63.
I took that shit right back up to the school. outlandish numbers ever, man. My daughter came home with an alignment number like 63.
I took that shit
right back up to the school.
Listen, man,
we're not wearing this.
63 is crazy.
We're not wearing this, man.
Wait, wait.
We used to go to basketball camps
and be like, 267.
Like, I'm not wearing
this number, man.
Like, there you got to,
but other places,
like, nah, man.
Your number, like,
when you're in high school?
Give me the oversized jersey.
We took it to the cleaners.
I know.
As we got older, we realized. 63. He was eight in in high school? Give me the oversized jersey. We took it to the cleaners. I know.
I know.
As we got older we realized.
63.
He was eight in the league.
What?
For a little girl.
They don't make eight in high school.
For a little girl.
That's right.
That's right.
Look at that heavy ass number.
Yeah.
Running like this.
Mm-hmm.
Fucking on your goddamn back.
That number look heavy.
We got NBA champion Swaggy P, Nick Young back here with us.
Ah man. And making his second appearance in the arena back to back. NBA champion, swaggy P, Nick Young, back here with us.
And making his second appearance in the arena, back-to-back.
We do back-to-backs here.
Former McDonald's All-American, College All-American National Defensive Player of the Year out of the Ohio State University.
Is there another Ohio State University where y'all got to be the?
Oh, it's only one.
Okay, so the Ohio State University.
He was the first overall pick in a 2007 NBA draft by the Blazers.
Now he's a celebrity ambassador for A Kid Again
and also teaches financial literacy with EduCor.
Greg Oden, welcome back to Guild Arena.
Present about it on the move.
Day two.
Damn.
Y'all went long today, so we're all on a minute's restriction.
Cool.
Okay, so y'all want to get into deep spiritual conversations at the end of the show.
But we were ready to go home.
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Gil's favorite team, the Milwaukee Bucks, have won three of their last four games.
It's freak time.
Ready to turn a corner.
James Harden passed Ray Allen for the second most threes in NBA history.
Does the beard deserve more credit for what he's accomplished in his NBA career?
And after falling to 2-11 on the season, the Sixers reportedly had a team meeting
in which Tyrese Maxey called out Joel Embiid.
Is it too late to turn things around in Philly?
We will discuss, but before we get into all that,
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Yeah
NBA Cup. Ah, yeah, so you guys say yes. I know see yes
We got the good the currently undefeated Cavs 15 15-0. This is a really good one.
Going into Boston, taking on the Celtics.
Gil, you have Jason Tatum higher, 2.5 three-pointers made.
You got Jalen Brown higher, 29.5 points, rebounds, and assists combined.
Drew Holiday higher, 3.5 assists.
LaMelo Ball, I think this is probably the lock on here.
Higher, 2.5 three-pointers made.
LaMelo been...
He had six the other day
and we said he wouldn't.
He watches the show.
Right?
You know what?
I'm not even going to lie, y'all.
I'd be hating
to put it out there
because they follow
and then they're going to say,
oh, I ain't going to make
two threes.
Shit, I'm about to shoot
12 of them now.
Like, come on, man.
You know, yeah,
that's a good thing.
He got a 15.
Like I said, man. You know, yeah, that's a good thing. He got a 15. Like I said, man.
You also got Anthony Davis.
Higher, 24.5 points.
Send me that.
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I've never looked at them before.
People say they always pick my unders.
No, nobody on this couch does that.
Lacey, you should not look at it.
She don't shoot the ball.
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So we got to, you know, we've been talking a lot about NBA viewership
issues, Christmas.
You know, it used to be the NBA's day.
People really latched on to that clip of ours
that was talking about the viewership stuff.
They do, because they know.
They watch.
I hope Adam Silver saw it too.
And respects, and bends the knee,
and makes Gil's Arena
the franchise show of the league.
But NBA's... Here we. But NBA's Christmas Day dominance might be a thing of the past
with the NFL trying to take over their corners with the Slated Games.
And Roger Goodell and them sent a clear message to Adam Silver this weekend
to count their Christmas days.
So Sunday, Netflix announced there will be a Beyonce concert on Christmas,
which will also include a football game as an added bonus.
Beyonce concert with football, yeah!
There's a Beyonce concert with a football game as an added bonus.
On Netflix?
They're going to get it right, Gil.
I don't think so.
This is going to be horrible.
So Beyonce will perform during halftime of the Ravens-Texans game in Houston,
which is scheduled to air during the Sixers-Celtics game.
Can y'all know which game you'll be watching?
But I don't know.
And yes, we did see with the Jake Paul-
I ain't gonna be watching at all.
Shit, he getting DNPs.
What the fuck I'm gonna watch for?
Hey, fair.
And we will not watch with you in support.
We will not watch with you.
Fuck, I'm-
Man, let me stop.
You watch to get mad.
You know you watch to get mad.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I don't watch.
Listen, I haven't watched the last few games.
You have not missed anything.
No, I have not missed anything, so.
But like I mentioned during the episode.
I'm not going to watch Celtics.
Jake Paul, Mike Tyson fight.
I think did a peak of 65 million viewers.
Had 60 million viewers.
Told her there were some streaming issues.
Of course, you know, some of us had to find ulterior methods.
Antonio Brown.
You know.
Shout out to Antonio Brown.
On Twitter.
How good is the Texans?
They okay. They just beat the dog shit out
of the sorry-ass cowboys.
Killed them.
What game is it? The Texans versus who?
Lamar Jackson and the Ravens.
Oh.
Yeah.
Well, they're gonna get an influx of viewers
just to see Beyoncé.
Texans currently first in the AFC South 7-4. That's gonna be a good Beyoncé. Texas currently first in the AFC South 7-4.
Don't lie.
Ravens currently second in the AFC North 7-4.
Love you guys.
It should have been a better team, though.
But we got Beyoncé halftime show.
What I'm saying is, if you're trying to, if you're worrying about viewership,
then there's just certain days that should be mobile for you.
Right?
It should be a...
You should have a mobile schedule for this.
You shouldn't pre...
Preseason...
When this schedule comes out, what, June, July?
Yeah.
Right?
You shouldn't automatically have teams on Christmas.
When they normally...
Thanksgiving and Christmas.
So they can move based on... So you can move based on what's playing well.
So you can move
based on what's popping.
So they're trying
to compete with the NBA.
No, I know them.
I'm talking about the NBA.
This is the first time
they've had NFL games
Oh, you think the NBA
should have flex scheduling?
No, it's the last couple years.
So if Christmas falls
on a Saturday, Sunday,
usually they'll do it.
Oh, okay.
Christmas on a Wednesday
this year.
Yeah, so they reach.
NFL doing games on Wednesday.
Yeah, so they reach and trying to compete. Yeah, that's a reach for sure. Like game okay. Christmas on a Wednesday this year. Yeah, so they reach. NFL doing games on Wednesday. Yeah, so they reach and trying to compete.
Yeah, that's a reach for sure.
Like game one.
That's a reach.
Spurs versus Knicks.
Yeah, don't nobody care about that.
Like, that's true.
So we already said.
Knicks versus.
Should have been somebody else.
Timberwolves.
This is the first time they're going to be playing.
Like, those are the things you need to do.
Like, this should be the first time they play,
and you put that game 9 o'clock in the morning. Everyone's watching because you need to do. This should be the first time they play and you put that game
9 o'clock in the morning. Everyone's watching
because they want to see what happens. Put it in Madison
Square Garden. So have all the
Christmas games like TBD.
Yeah. A month of the season.
Mavs versus, that should have been
the Golden State game when Klay went back to
Golden State. That should have been that game.
Ah. Right? Boston
versus Philly.
I don't mind it. Okay. I don have been that game. Ah. Right? Boston versus Philly. I don't mind it. Okay.
I don't mind that one.
Lakers versus Warriors? No.
Lakers versus Suns. And don't
let the Lakers play at home?
That should be Lakers versus Suns.
Everybody, like,
there are two players
at the same small four position that moves the power
forward. They're both about to be done pretty soon.
Yeah.
Let us see that.
Right?
That's like putting Magic and Bird
in 91 together.
Let the world see the ending of these two titans.
That's what you put on Christmas.
This could be the last, like,
I don't know if you guys are thinking,
there's only a few more Christmases
that Braun's going to be here and KD.
You might as well milk the fuck out both of them on Christmas. I don't know if you guys are thinking, there's only a few more Christmases that Bron's gonna be here and KD.
You might as well milk the fuck out both of them on Christmas,
like he was doing Kobe and LeBron.
Yeah.
And then you got Nugget's sons to round out the game.
They can never be in the finals.
There's gonna never be a finals matchup again.
It's a good basketball game.
Nugget's son is a good basketball.
It's a good basketball game,
but it's not a good viewership game.
Coming on at 10.30 Eastern, 7.30 Pacific.
Yeah, people gonna be locked, sleep sleep food comas on the East Coast not like like nine o'clock
Nuggets
This Minas should have put I'm saying you could have put Minnesota Minnesota
Denver Minnesota Nick's you can fill it up Minnesota, Denver, Minnesota, Knicks. You could have been. Philly?
If it be was healthy, Philly, let the two Titans go at it.
Yep.
That'll be hard.
You got to think like even with the football.
I throw LaMelo, the Hornets.
I'm doing Ravens versus Chiefs.
That's my Christmas game.
Instead of them playing first game of the season.
First game of the season.
You knew you had this game.
You knew you wanted to schedule this game on Christmas. Yeah, you got to. Why not put them on the first game of the season. First game of the season. You knew you had this game. You knew you wanted to schedule this game on Christmas.
Why not put them on the first game of the season
when neither one of them are?
Got their shit together.
What do you think about the NFL having Beyonce do a halftime
show on Christmas?
I'm looking forward to it.
I'm a Beyonce fan.
I remember like three concerts.
So I'm going to be watching.
You're going to be watching now? You're not going to be watching?
You're not going to be watching the Sixers Celtics?
I'll flip through.
You know, it's Christmas Day.
I'm tired.
I'm sleeping all day.
I'm in the bed.
Is it going to be a longer halftime?
I think they'll probably extend it a little bit.
Because regular game halftimes are pretty short.
I think they're like 15, but they'll probably extend it.
Because the Super Bowl halftime is mad long. I ain't going to lie.
I listened to Beyoncé because she was with, you know, Jay-Z
when they was doing the little songs.
And then she was...
They're little songs.
They're little songs.
Like, when they was in D.C.
and I did, um...
I did, um...
something with her.
Found that it was, um...
You did something.
Community service.
I did community service the day before
to help launch her, her what's-her-name.
So I went to the concert
When she did freak'em dress
Brother
I bought all the CDs
I
Was young man, but it was just hey, I was a young man. It was just, freak of dress that you see her perform. I'm like, yeah, this is entertainment.
She made me believe I can get it.
Have you been to a concert, her concert?
I went to Atlanta, whatever the one that she was bashing, Jay-Z.
What album was that?
Lemonade. Yeah, I was right there.
Just taking it. I just had to sit down and take it.
Just as a man, huh? Just, God damn it, man.
I went to the Renaissance. Oh, my it. I just had to sit down and take it. Just as a man, huh? Just God damn it, man.
I went to the Renaissance.
Oh, my gosh.
I did, too.
Break my soul right after the pandemic.
That was my anthem for the summer.
Okay.
Well, turn up.
So we've talked about the declining NBA viewership this season,
some of the reasons for it.
Lexi, like you mentioned, that clip currently cooking for us,
amongst others.
But, Greg, I got to ask you,
what do you think about the current state of the NBA
with teams
and players shooting so many threes?
I like it.
I like to just say, like, the players are better.
They're more skilled.
So why would you not?
You got guys that can make it at a good clip and you shoot it.
I mean, we're not talking like four or five years ago when guys shooting 27%, but they
still shooting them up.
We're talking about guys shooting 34%, 35%.
Why not?
And, you know, just the viewership.
It's a more exciting game.
So I do appreciate it.
I appreciate seeing the big fellas, you know, running down.
Give me my threes.
You know, I feel proud to do that because I never took one.
And what do you think about this whole analytics, Fred,
where it's like shoot threes, long twos, less of the middie.
We've seen an increase in the middie in recent seasons, but it seems like a lot of guys now it's either give me a three or give me something to paint.
Well, I like to say this.
What's one thing, one part of every All-Stars game that they have in common?
They all dominate the mid-range game.
You know, so I know people come in analytics as a little short five foot nine guy that never played ball before outside of high school is saying this makes sense
But we all know from the eye test, you know, if you shoot and you making that mid-range you're a great player, you know
Well, let's keep this thing with Nick with you
For me, I feel like the mid-range you could get any shot you want to the mid-range.
You can do any move you want to a pull-up jump shot
compared to, you know, shooting a crazy shot from the three.
If I was going to attack somebody or a gang winner,
I would do a mid-range for sure, pull-up.
Because you could get to any...
You could get to your shot from any, you know, any move.
Yes, absolutely.
Who consistently leads the league in scoring?
I'm saying just different people,
but they don't all just shoot threes.
None of them.
Right?
But the only thing that was Steph.
Steph, that was the only person
who's ever showed that it could be done, but... But he only thing that was was Steph. Steph. That was the only person who's ever
Showed that it could be done, but he's amazing at the mid-range too. Yeah, but he's amazing at the mid-range. They just don't understand that.
All three levels so
But everybody else that leads the league in scoring is a dynamic mid-range player
You look at the top five six six, seven guys that are scoring,
there's a couple bigs in there, right?
And it's the Kevin Durants, the Devin Bookers, the Luka,
it's Shade.
It's all the guys that has perfected the mid-range game.
So to your point, yes, Nick.
I don't think...
If you go back in history, right, before the three-point line, right,
the mid-range was the most important thing, right?
Jordan, mid-range guy, right?
Those guys that stood out.
Kobe, everybody.
Even T.Mac them.
I don't think today understand why
the mid-range is important.
The mid-range is so easy
is because once I load up
as a defensive player,
you're thinking to stop me
from getting to the rim, right?
So when you're playing defense,
you have to cross your legs.
Once you cross this leg, a pullback, a stop,
that's where that shot is so important,
that's why it's so easy, right?
The three, the guy's facing you, right?
Layup, the guy's running, trying to do this.
But if you make him turn his body,
that's where the pullup happens at. Because you have to turn his his body, that's where the pull-up happens I've got because you have to react what once somebody drives and I don't think they understand that concept
Are you have to cross your legs that actually stopped me from getting to the basket once you do that? That's when I pull up
Real talk. All right. Well, let's keep this thing moving while we're on the subject of the NFL taking over the NBA's Christmas stronghold and
The issue of declining viewership.
We got some good news to report. So one of
the casualties of the NBA's new TV rights
deal was TNT, which meant this
was supposed to be the last season of the 21-time
Emmy Award winning series, Inside
the NBA. But on Monday
it was announced that Inside the NBA lives on
and will appear on ESPN and ABC
starting with the 2025-2026
season through a partnership with TNT Sports and the NBA.
The agreement is a part of a settlement after Warner Bros. Discovery,
the parent company of TNT Sports, sued the NBA in August
after the league did not accept the company's matching offer
for one of the packages in its new 11-year media rights deal,
again, which will begin next season.
Settlement gives TNT Sports, Bleach Report, and House of Highlights
a global license for NBA content with no rights fee for the next 11 years
gail i see you're facing right now so what do you think about inside the nba staying on the air
but moving to espn and abc is it still tuesday we will we will find out
are they gonna be able to like...
It's supposed to be like Christmas and the weekend games and stuff now.
The stuff that ESPN has.
Are they going to be able to like still be themselves?
That is a great question, Lexi.
Because it's Disney.
Woohoo!
So they're going to Disney.
They wasn't on Disney before.
They were on TNT.
They were just on TNT.
TNT.
Now it's...
That's it.
So now they're going to Disney. Now Disney...
Oh, yeah, they done.
You don't change that.
They done.
Disney's Disney.
They have to change.
You know what I'm saying?
Because they're going to have to be able to distribute these clips and stuff,
and when they on there wiling...
They're not wiling that bad inside.
No, but see, there's certain words that Disney don't accept.
True. Their company don't accept. True.
That company don't accept.
Okay.
Right, there's a list.
I'm not going to ask
for a total word to argue.
There's a list of words
that Disney don't accept.
So what happens is
those players got to go
and look at that
because TNT,
there's certain words
you can accept on TNT
versus...
Have you looked at that list?
It don't matter.
It shows they have on TNT
they got all the... It don't matter if you's because they have on TNT, they got all the...
It don't matter if you don't...
It's climbing the line of, yeah, appropriate, not appropriate.
They all be on TNT.
They got the freedom over there at Warner.
Warner, yeah.
Yeah.
Because I remember when I was with...
When I did a Rachel Nichols show, I had to look at the list
because I wanted to mess with Richard, right?
So I was like, can I call him Dick and all that stuff?
And then finally...
You can't call Richard Dick? Not Disney. What? That's his... That's the Richard, right? So I was like, can I call him Dick and all that stuff? You can't call Richard Dick?
Not Disney.
That's the nickname for Richard.
For Richard in the world, not Disney.
You can't call him Dick Jefferson?
No.
Okay.
Right?
So I seen, Steve, I seen douche and douche bag was illegal.
I mean, it was legal.
So I called him douche and then doubled down douchebag.
And they're sitting there like,
oh, you can't say that.
Nah, all right, look.
So you have to run this clip.
So they've kind of relaxed that stance a little bit
with Pat McAfee bringing his show over.
I'm saying some of the language now
is a little bit more free-flowing, but...
On Disney?
Yeah, they've had him in the show.
But it's constantly running on the bottom these a Pat McAfee's word
It is constantly running goddamn. They are reminding you that these these belong to him
Yeah, this is a partnership. This is not it. This is a partnership with it. It's not a
Making sure you know
What was that you literally asked ESPN to give you a list of words? I
Was a producer of the show at the time and Gil did ask me this really happened. He said Steve
Let me see what he was running a bunch of words by me
But he already had the list so he knew what he was doing and he specifically didn't say douchebag
Because he knew he was gonna say that on ESPN. Yeah. Yeah.
3D chess.
You can't say, wait, wait, Dick is short for Richard?
Y'all lost me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
So, no, so somebody named Richard, you can call him Dick.
Mm-hmm.
Oh.
Wait, so, wait, that's like a...
That's a no?
Every Richard on earth, that's their nickname.
See, yeah.
Yes.
They can be called Dick. Oh, God. But look, look. No, but I heard it, but I'm like, if someone doesn't go by Dick, they're going to say Dick. That's a no every Richard on Earth
But I heard it but I'm like if someone doesn't go by that
No, it's not a name that's just you get that that's it's automatic is just a like Nick for Dick is Richard? Yeah. Damn, that's crazy.
Look what you did.
Now he gonna go around calling everybody Dick.
What's up, Dick?
Don't let Nick be a Richard ever.
See, that's the problem.
That's what I'm saying.
No, no, for him, because... He's gonna call every person a Richard.
Nick is Dick.
See, that's the problem right here.
He over here gonna be saying what he want.
I can't call him Nick if it was Nick.
Hey, Clayton.
I can't do that.
Just call him Randy.
Get your freaking mind gone, brother.
You can't do that.
You can't just walk up to everybody and tell them what you want.
Thank you, brother.
Oh, there you go.
That's wild.
You finally got that, huh?
Yeah.
Stop that shit, huh?
So NBA viewership may be struggling viewership is not struggling on gills arena presented by underdog. Whoa
They're waiting for our credentials
You down or lay down we're gonna do it
No did you do you down or later no did the easy where are where you will give us a
Hard way we will get our credentials. Easy or hard way.
We will get our credentials one way or the other. Don't freak me over here.
In this lifetime or the next.
If they like numbers, they like viewership.
And they call...
Never mind.
Let me shut up.
All right, well, let's get into some current NBA discussion.
Sixers fell to the heat last night,
and Jimmy Butler's returned to the lineup.
Jimmy Buckets gave Philly a wildly efficient 30 points shooting 8 for 12 from the field
Taking and making just one 3 pointer
And hitting all 13 of his free throws
On the Sixers side
Joel Embiid and Paul George both played
Combining for 29 points
You heard that right
They combined for 29 points in the road loss
Philly is now 2-11 on the season
Tied with the Wizards for the worst record in the National Basketball Association.
So according to Shams, Sixers had an hour and a half meeting after the game in an attempt to sort out the team's issues.
Shams went on the Pat McAfee Show this morning and gave some details on how Tyrese Maxey called out Embiid in that meeting.
We are still waiting for that clip.
Uh-oh.
When we getting it?
Beyonce!
Beyonce, yeah.
Hey, I ain't gonna lie.
My shit.
Hey, we good.
Cool.
Right?
That's cool.
We don't look at Beyonce.
It's a good look.
We gonna get it anytime soon.
I can paraphrase it as well.
Paraphrase it?
All right.
So, no, the Shops said that they had a meeting, six years together,
hour and a half after the game, coaches and players,
and Maxie called out Embiid over his punctuality, being tardy for things.
Coming into that game, he was doubtful, got moved to playing in the game,
I think shortly before the game started,
but just saying that he needs to show up, be available,
be around for his team.
And Maxie and Embiid have a good relationship,
so I think Embiid took the words to heart
and hopefully will try to improve from them.
I think it was kind of similar to what we heard
when we had Pat Bev on the show,
talking about accountability, getting Embiid in shape,
hey, let's run some 17s, Embiid doing it.
But Max said Embiid has been late for everything.
I just feel like that's not probably a new thing.
I'm here for, like, holding people accountable,
but I don't like when people wait
till things are going, like, terribly.
Then all of a sudden,
you trying to correct behavior
that's been
Not going well I don't know I think feel like you just got to be on top of it from the beginning and not wait till everything goes
To shit and it's gonna be received how it's gonna be received, but you're not wrong
I feel that if it was a real meeting and as y'all know one of those means mm-hmm
We should not know about it. It should have been done. It shouldn't be talked about that's when you really handle something
And that's why you don't put coaches in meetings like this
Because they're the first ones to go and spread it to the media
You know so the media can find out but player meetings or player meetings
No one ever finds out,
unless you do it, like, after practice, right?
You do it after practice
when the media's supposed to talk to you.
Oh, yeah, right after.
And they hear, oh, y'all got a player meeting,
and then one's gonna ask,
so what was the meeting about?
Man, shut the fuck up, man.
If we wanted you to know,
you would've been in there, you goof.
Are they trying to describe the college?
Shit, you start off by saying
he's not playing back-to-backs,
and now this.
Then there's, I think he's like, I'm not going to call him a baby,
but like stars, after what happened when the reporter called him out
and people been getting on him, I feel like he don't feel the love in Philly no more.
I feel like.
And then he on some kind of like, I ain't going to put you,
like how you felt when you came back number nine,
when you went from zero to number
Yeah, I seen it in your face. You know facts facts facts
So and I feel like he's like that right now like they was calling them all day. He just he was
Doubtful and it showed up ten minutes before the game and say I'm ready to go or something like that
If they was winning man listen and that was that's the problem thing is like Lexi just said he gone. I'm not there
I don't I
Got dollars certain things, but the being late shit and all that that's that just didn't start
Since since Nick nurse been there that's that it's not new
But now you're losing and now it's magnified.
So, yeah, hold them accountable.
And like I said, you shouldn't know about the meeting,
but we do, so.
The problem, you know, the problem is it's...
He's an MVP, right?
Can't take away his talent.
But we all said, you you know in this league in
history
There's gifted motherfuckers that come through here that can do the bare minimum and they can dominate right
There was a reason Colby and Shaquille had a problem when they were playing. It's the same right here, right?
You have Maxie, you have Maxie, and you have an Embiid.
And the Maxie's like, yo, I got to come in here and work to do this
just to get a fraction of what you can do.
You're the best player here.
You're saying you're the best player in the league.
Look at the example you're giving us.
You're not the hardest working guy.
You're not the first one here.
You're not the last one to guy. You're not the first one here You're not the last one to leave you're late to everything you the example of you talking about
I want to be a champion. You're not showing no championship qualities for us
Right, that's that's like
Giannis is Giannis for a reason
Right if Yannis had your skill there wouldn't there wouldn't be no conversation of who the
best player in on the planet is right you you have what he wants you need what he has naturally
right he has a motor that goes he wants to win he's going to be at practice he's going to do
whatever it takes to to be the best and that's been the question with Embiid this whole time is,
do you really want to be the best?
Or do you just want to keep playing the way you're playing?
You're going to dominate.
You're going to be a Hall of Famer, right?
You're going to be one of the top big men that ever played this game.
But there's going to be somebody on the other side
who don't even have 25% of your talent,
and he's going to be put in front of you.
And he's going to win awards front of you he's gonna win
awards he already asked three of them right if you ask a basketball player
who's better we're gonna pick you every time no it's it's it's a you thing it's
you you have to be in you but you go what I'm saying if you let the, you know, you know us if you let me get away with it
If I can come late, you know
Give me it you gonna take a mile. Mm-hmm. I feel like this is the first season that
People are pointing the finger at it be here. That's what he don't know how to take what Jimmy Butler was there with him
Yeah, baby
Then it was them them them them them. This else was there with him? Ben Harden, Ben.
It was them, them, them, them, them. This is the first time people are like, all right, now it's you.
We have that clip ready.
Obviously, I paraphrased it, but I want you guys just to hear what Sean said,
all the details.
So let's run that clip real quick.
Last night they had an hour-and-a-half long team meeting in that postgame
locker room in Miami.
And I think a lot was said, a lot was accepted, a lot was aired out.
Coaches saying we need players to practice harder, show more attention to detail.
Players saying we need to be coached harder, we want to be coached harder.
But most notable of all that, Pat, I was told Tyrese Maxey,
the 24-year-old young star, he challenged Joel Embiid, the face of the franchise,
the former league MVPvp that we need
you to be on time for team activities and and it saying that there's a trickle-down effect when you
are missing when you are tardy when you are late for what i was told everything for everything was
the line it has an effect on the rest of the locker room, the rest of the players, the coaching staff.
Yesterday, Joel Embiid was listed doubtful most
of the day. Teammates, coaches,
no one really saw or heard from him.
Then he shows up at warm-ups, plays in the
game. They had a double
digit lead. Great lead in the first half.
Completely 180 flip
in the second half.
From what I'm told, it was kind of like this.
Big fella is someone that Tyrese Maxey loves. This was the elephant in the second half. From what I'm told, it was kind of like this. Big fella is someone that Tyrese Maxey
loves, but this was the elephant in the room
and Tyrese Maxey addressed it. They're very
close. They're very close friends.
They hold each other accountable, but last
night, Tyrese Maxey delivered a message to Joel
Embiid that I think a lot of people
saw coming for a really long time.
So, just listening
to the way that that was reported,
you know me put my inspector
gadget hat on.
Me too.
Hmm.
I'm trying to figure out whose camp that came from.
I don't know who it came from, but I will say this.
It's not that deep.
First off, we know Bigfella from day one.
He physically can't do it.
I can't go back to back days. I can't do it. I can't go back-to-back days.
I can't go hard.
I can't practice like these young boys.
Y'all know this.
Tyrese Maxey said the least you can do is show up on time.
That's it.
And so that's not a big deal.
That's just calling them out and actually being a point guard.
So as players, though, you've been in team meetings like this.
You've been in players-only meetings like this.
As players, how do you feel now when you've got to see Shams on the Pat McAfee show detailing exactly what went down in that meeting?
We didn't have those back then. So, as former player, all of that, right?
I was a teammate we had in Denver.
And the coach was asking how to deal with the player, right?
And I told him, there's only two things we respect, man.
Money and playing time.
You find, like, to your point, you're finding $2,500 here, $3,000 here.
That ain't doing nothing.
If you're going to find it, find it, for one.
If you're going to do it, do it.
Make it count.
Yep.
Or don't play it.
I'm tired of hearing about it.
Mm-hmm.
So in this case, only two things.
Money.
Plan time.
He late.
Make it count.
Don't plan.
Don't plan.
Don't plan.
Right?
That's my thing with it.
It feels like they already plan now.
No, no, no.
You got to make an example.
You can't come from the player.
Tyrese Mask can say
whatever he want
to this man.
Hold him accountable.
It's only putting a band-aid
on a gunshot wound
if it come from a player.
Because all it's going to do,
he's going to two weeks,
show up, whatever,
and then back to normal.
Once they start winning.
If that happens he's going to go back
to it. Because there's been
no consequence behind
these actions. But they haven't
had his back. I feel like
every time with Philly
they point the blame at him this
year from the organization. Nobody
had his back. Nobody had his back. That's this year. Every other year't nobody had it back. Nobody had it. That's this year
Talked about it brother
You showing up in
You gonna take up for mother because you always let your god
So you're not gonna shake up for the late motherfucker you
You gonna take over the late guy?
But if everybody here always talking about you,
you think you want to show up to some place on time?
I'm going to be professional.
I know I'm ready.
How about last year?
How about a year before that?
Nick, you know me, right?
There's nothing like me.
No, nobody said anything.
Nick, you was on the team with me, right?
I marched to my own beat.
I did what the fuck I want to say, what the fuck I want to.
But one thing nobody ever was going to say was I was what?
Late. Unprofessional late. Unprofessional late, yeah. Whatever else you still want to say what the fuck I want to but one thing nobody was ever was gonna say was I was what like unprofessional
For whatever else you want to say about me. Yeah, I'm professional and I'm fucking on time I don't give a fuck about whatever else you say about me, right? I did my job. I was professional
I showed the fuck up on time
But maybe did you know if Kenya was on time or not if you weren't there? I'll be fucking with you.
There's telltale signs I see.
He said you're always late.
Because I'm late too.
I came behind.
I'm late, so I don't know when y'all get here.
I know when I get here, some of y'all be here, some of y'all don't.
Even four or five years ago, when he used to, like, even, like, four or five years ago,
when they used to show, like, before the game,
he's out there getting a massage, eating grapes, watching cartoons.
Like, you don't want to be there no more.
Like, no, this is four or five years ago.
It's like, yo, this is, what is this?
Like, this is not on the court stuff.
This is locker room.
Sit your ass back there in the locker room.
Don't be doing that shit there.
That's not the place for that.
Right?
Even if you're doing that, you do that behind the scenes.
Like, so when I seen that that's what you do in that part, I'm like, hmm.
And if you guys were Embiid's teammates teammates and you saw him go represent his country,
obviously go win a gold medal, represent America
in the Olympics, but now, start of the
season, I'm not available.
Not on his teammates. But I'm just asking
how do you feel about that? It don't mean shit. I've been with
this motherfucker for how long?
I've been seeing him pre-game eat 12
hamburgers. I've watched it,
but I couldn't say shit because he's averaging
34 and 14.
He's averaging. If he wants to come
in one minute before the game and he
averages 34 and 14, I can't say
shit. When James Harden
went to Vegas during the what's the name
and then he came back and had 40,
I can't say shit.
I can't say nothing because of
what he's doing. Right now, he's
not doing it. So now I get to say something.
They've been waiting. We've been waiting for we've been waiting for it. We know he just got back
We've been waiting for this but as a coach what you do need to do is
He showed up how many minutes before the game?
Five minutes ten minutes. That means he didn't go through shoot around. No, he ain't been practicing, right?
Therefore you are not playing.
So you make an example of it.
Hey, don't play.
Come on.
You in my...
Forget not starting.
You're not playing.
Listen, hold on.
If we was not in Miami...
No, you're in Miami.
The game in Miami.
So there's a lot of shit that's going through the motherfucker's brain.
The motherfucker's out all night drinking, doing part.
There's a whole lot that came with that sh...
Go ahead. Go ahead.
I ain't saying my son told me nothing of this shit.
I don't know what the man was doing.
The man could have been sick for a lot of years.
Son didn't say nothing.
I haven't spoken to KJ.
Yeah, I know. I know.
Absolutely, because he ain't played.
He was pissed off because he ain't played, so he ain't called me.
Okay.
Because just...
He already know how that be.
He ain't talked to me in about a week.
So, he's pissed, so...
You don't want to talk to nobody.
But...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't want to talk to nobody. Not about me.
Especially me.
There's nothing to talk about.
But you had that Miami part into it.
We got to be happy that he actually played.
But my thing is, you can't do it.
So, that was Nick Nurse's prime time to make an example, right?
Make an example.
Then the team meeting wouldn't have been necessary.
Right?
The team meeting wouldn't have been necessary after the game if Nick Nurse would have stepped
in and made an example in that moment.
All right, big fella, we're going to give you the night off.
You say you're not feeling well. Yep.
But you can't spoil me and then be like,
take the leash back. Yes, you can.
Yes, you can.
How am I supposed to win? If you're in a relationship
and you just spoil it, you come in giving her
all the, everything she wants, then you say
it's over you think she
You see what she turned into thank you so I'm so you what I want to treat me one way just cuz the situation
Just just cuz the situation I'm hurt every year same shit every year. He was where you hurt
I was hurt people's me was loose think about why number one. I was MVP race
I get hurt week down there there 8-6-8.
Because you're late every day.
You're late every day.
You're eating bad.
You're doing it.
There's a reason.
Your talent helps you to a certain extent.
No, this can't be the only year his talent don't help him.
It can't start now.
Let me just read you Embiid's stats from last night.
Played 31 minutes.
5 for 11 from the field.
1 for 3 from 3.
8 rebounds.
5 assists., minus 22.
I'm just saying, but 31 minutes, him only taking 11 shots.
He shouldn't have had 31 minutes.
You just came in for the, you just came in.
Like, you just decided to play today.
We don't know nothing.
We don't know.
How did y'all feel when I was the prime example?
Y'all been practicing all week.
I ain't been there. You did that.
That's what I'm saying.
I know.
I ain't been there.
I ain't done shit.
You did that.
Then who we playing?
Yeah, hey.
And then I started putting my shit on.
Now, coach got to, hey, Nick, we're going to sit down,
and we're going to put Gil in.
You be sitting there like, oh, this, come on.
That's what he's doing.
It's the NBA. You done worked there like, come on. That's what he's doing. It's the NBA.
You done worked all week getting ready to go.
But what I'm saying is,
what did it show y'all though?
It still
scars everybody.
So it's scarring them.
He's a star. You got to check it.
Sometimes we forget that he
physically can't do this.
He actually has a reason that he can't be there all the time.
You mad I show up to a game and you put out,
I'm gonna play back to back, but you mad I show up to play?
You said no.
Y'all gotta be what you want from me.
I want you to be a professional like everybody else.
I can't go through practice like everybody else.
I can't do everybody else's thing.
But you can show up on time.
So I need to get my mind right.
Guess what you can do?
Show up on time? Have your ass in that gym.
You can motherfucking get on the bike. You can motherfucking walk
through the plays. What is rest is better than
being at the gym for him. Okay, rest on game day.
This is, take it from somebody who had,
I used to tell, listen, you can get it now. I'm gonna
walk through these plays. I'm not finna run up and down the floor.
I'm gonna walk through the plays. I'm gonna do the stuff I need to get
ready to play. Why you wanna hurt man
and get up out the bed here? But he's playing. I want gonna do the stuff. I need to get ready to play Why you want to hurt man and get about the baby, but he's playing
But we're trying to win a championship you're not winning right now
So that's what I'm saying. So if we're not gonna win a chair, I'm not playing you Joe best
You're not gonna just keep up. You're not gonna keep like nice, but we're trying to create great
Foundations for play is fuck you. Okay
I just seen it firsthand.
Andrew Bynum,
I was living there
with Andrew Bynum.
He was in a damn Ferrari
doing donuts
in the fucking parking lot.
They don't treat,
they treat them like that.
He's a star.
They don't care.
It ain't the same organization, people.
Well, it's Philly.
It don't matter.
It's Philly.
When you have a star
that acts like that,
you can't win.
So you just gonna act like that for the whole time you've been there,
and this month you're just shutting everything off.
Everything is changed.
Did you ask why can't they get out in the second round?
I don't mean to throw this person in this,
and I don't mean to take shots at him.
What has James Harden won?
Shit, he broke Ray Allen's record.
Personally. Move into second.
Never mind.
Move into second place.
Why don't anymore I ask you a fucking question?
Never mind.
I mean, he won a lot of games.
He won a lot of games.
He won a lot of games.
Worked his ass off, right?
He worked his ass off.
But the other side of it, right?
Do what he want to, party, leave.
Like, it just sets bad examples for the group, right?
So you can't chastise the next man for doing something
that you ain't said none of this man for.
And then it's a domino effect, right?
Until you correct the behavior of the main guy.
Right?
Until you hold that main guy accountable. When the main guy. Right? Until you hold that main guy
accountable,
when the main guy fucking...
If the main guy's doing
what he's supposed to
and there's no need
to hold him accountable...
But it's hard for him
to do what he gotta do.
You played on the team
with Steph, right?
I have.
Steph wasn't hurt, though.
But has anybody
have to hold
Steph accountable?
But this is the first time he hearing this though because because what I'm saying I'm saying
Because he's playing well
He's funny. It's the first time we're hearing this
You gonna treat me like this what the fuck type is if you've been treating us like this come on
You've been treating us like this. Come on, man. You've been treating us like this. We got to watch you eat fucking five hamburgers.
And go out there and get 34.
And get 34.
And then you watch me go out there with a half-face.
Now, you can get 34.
What about them?
What about them?
They want to be like you.
They want to be like you because it works for you.
So they thinking, oh, big homie can do it.
I can do it.
Everybody different.
Everybody different, but the other players don't know it. So you was on a team with me, right?
Where'd you want to team with me, huh?
When I wasn't playing what was I doing fucking my head but partying what did y'all want to do?
That's why party now so but I'm not a big again
About the follow a big I followed you cuz you was a guard. Okay, so I'm not about to follow big
I'm not about to be down there. So what you think about what I'm saying if everybody if I'm the star player what you just say
I'm
Know what this fool just say that's why that's why I'm not sitting over there. I want no problem. What you just say fool
I don't know. I don't know be you only follow him because he was a guard. He's like
Action would know the valley
You go over there. Oh, yeah, but what position is only so I'm not playing sir
It's but because I'm not playing for the first time in my career
You know the whole party, right? So this is the first time in my career where I'm hurt and I don't have no responsibility
So I'm partying right whoever want to come with me. Let's go. I'm hurt and I don't have no responsibilities. So I'm partying, right?
Whoever want to come with me, let's go. I'm buying bottles
and everything. So now,
the star player,
because he doesn't have any responsibilities, because he's not
playing, he's doing what he wants.
What is everybody else doing? Let's go party with Gil.
I don't have to wake up in the morning and go to
shoot around and stuff. So you guys are
all fucked up. Now they got to come to me.
Hey Gil, can you not hang out late? What the fuck you come to me. Hey Gil Can you not hang out late the fuck you talking to me for tell them not to hang out late?
Don't tell me I'm not but that was my downfall. I didn't realize that they watching me
See they're watching my bad behavior. See he wasn't there when I'm in the gym three four times getting ready for the game
He didn't learn that from you. He learned the partying.
Gil got the max partying.
Gil got the max doing it this
way. I'm finna do what Gil was
doing. But he didn't understand.
I didn't get the max partying. I got the max
working. But you didn't come in on
that part of it.
That's why Quran, all of them,
the young fellas,
Gil got all the girls. let's go party with them.
Hell yeah, come on, I got something for you, boom, boom, boom.
I'm not doing that because I don't have to play.
So my responsibility was gone.
Then this is the problem with MB.
Your behavior today, these kids are watching you.
Right?
So if you're not setting an example of hard work ethic, they are not going to do it you. Right? So if you're not setting an example of hard work ethic,
they are not going
to do it either.
Right?
There's no checks and balances
because the coach
can't check them.
You got to check them.
Right?
Giannis, when Giannis practiced,
everybody got to practice hard.
Right?
When Jimmy practiced,
everybody got to practice hard.
When Steph practiced,
everybody got to practice hard
because if the leader
is practicing maximum, you
have to.
If you are lazy, it forces
everybody else to be lazy because they're trying to
be cool with you.
But they got other stars there.
It's not the star.
Maxie is the star.
He's not that star.
Maxie's missed the last six games while we're coming.
The whole team is missing, bro. But it's not... Even if he's not that star. Max, he's missed the last six games while we're coming. The whole team is missing, bro.
But it's that star.
Jerry McCain balling.
Even if he's not playing.
If he shows.
Think about it.
Go ahead.
But they got.
So Embiid is playing, right?
Paul George is playing.
McCain.
You are getting the same production out of Jerry McCain that you have been getting out of Tyrese Maxson, unfortunately.
He is giving you the same production.
Kelly Oubre is still averaging double figures.
You moved him to the bench with that fucked up the morale.
He's been starting.
He started every preseason game, started every game this season.
Last year, too.
You moved him to the bench out the blue.
That was crazy.
That's doing no favors to the locker room.
You still got Eric Gordon who can score.
Reggie Jackson can still go get a bucket.
Yabasele is playing well.
He's a good...
You still got pieces,
so there's no reason for you to be 2-11.
There's no reason.
You can't build chemistry with somebody that can't practice.
I went through that same thing in Miami. as you trying I'm trying to get used to
D way Brian and all that but I can't ever practice if I play in the game I
gotta sit out the next day so you just not building that rapport like that but
was LeBron and D Wade ever late day of rookie transition, they say, be early and be professional.
First day of rookie transition.
Every star got a star complex.
Every star shows up late and shit.
Don't act like he's the only one that's showing up late to anything.
All you motherfuckers show up.
Man, I ain't got time.
All the ones and motherfuckers that didn't win.
All the niggas that didn't win.
The ones we didn't win.
Shit, every team I've been on that started showing up late.
You didn't win.
Shit. Steph did not show up. The championship you won, Steph did not show up late, so stop it.
To what?
Nothing!
Y'all motherfuckers show up to game meetings, to fucking game events when y'all won't.
Game events? Huh?
He said everything. He showed up to everything late.
What did the man say everything late?
If there's a film, if we got film and film
If films supposed to start at goddamn 11, so and step is in that motherfucker 1030 1015
And you come late. What does that look like? Hey? Yo, what's going on with you?
But if your best play if everybody's there since 1030 and step walking in a 1110, that's a problem
Oh, but he didn't do that. That's why he's a winner
I don't read that's why the rest of us when you ask why was y'all such losers?
Goddamn it cuz we had bad winning habits
Kobe
Who did he call out he wasn't in no goddamn film says it was talking by itself
Then I'd be like, oh, Kobe ain't watching film.
I can't do this shit.
I can't play basketball because Kobe didn't watch film with us.
How many rings did y'all win?
But still.
How many rings did y'all win then?
You act like you can't watch film by yourself.
You didn't win none.
You act like you can't watch film by yourself.
You can't.
You act like you can't.
Like, these motherfuckers are so dumb that they can't do shit on their own because Embiid's not there.
Embiid's late.
I can't do nothing. I don't know how to practice cuz I do late you watching film by yourself
How does that help the rest of the team?
You watch it by your you watching what you do we talking about team defense you watching your office. Oh god damn it
I look good, boy. Hey, can I rewind it? They already knew they had to watch it without him. He said he wasn't playing back-to-back,
so that means you're not watching shit,
playing with him anyway certain games.
So why is this messing up their heads?
They coming into the season
knowing they playing damn near 60 games or less with Embiid.
So you still playing back-to-backs.
You're not watching them.
Film with your teammates. You're not doing nothing,. So because you can't play back-to-backs, you're not watching the film with your teammates.
You're not doing nothing, huh?
So there's a difference.
Your team, you're there.
We're there.
He's not playing, but he's like,
Hey, Drummond.
Drummond, this is where you got to plug that in.
Y'all got to talk.
You got to talk.
That's you.
You're supposed to be coaching.
When you was out, that's when you...
That's when you get to coach your team.
To help him.
Help.
I got to help you, Abe.
We got a backdoor.
You got to slide.
Abe, Abe, rewind that coach.
Slide here, man.
You got to slide down.
You got to buck back.
Why you not boxing out?
You get to do that.
But no, I mean, and I do agree with Nick with that.
Because last year when I was out, I was like... When you mentally checked out. when you don't know, like, we don't know what's really going on behind the scenes.
When you don't feel that from your team, your organization, you don't want to help.
Okay, but cool.
But we made moves to win a championship.
I was there.
I was there, but I didn't say nothing.
We made moves to win a championship, though.
We're supposed to be trying to win a championship,
and this is the behavior.
I can't treat you like a champion
because you haven't been treating yourself like a champion.
How?
You haven't been treating yourself like one.
I just came back from winning the Olympics.
Last year.
Maybe you shouldn't have played in it.
But in being entering this season,
my focus is on winning a championship.
I'm less concerned about the individual accolades.
The goal now is to bring a championship to Phillyilly. I'm just give you more context. We don't
Have it makes any sense and be listed as awful most of Monday due to an illness was not seen by most teammates and coaches
Throughout the day before appearing at warm-ups and playing in the game. It was crazy
So you but you appearing at warm-ups and playing in the game. It was crazy. He was doing this. But you shouldn't have put him in the game.
We haven't seen you.
We haven't talked to you.
You're just coming to the game.
Super spreader.
So you ain't never been sick like, man, fuck it.
I'm going to just go out here and play for my team, man.
I'm going to go out here.
So that don't happen.
Okay.
But what you saying to them young boys on the team?
See, that's what we're saying.
You got Jerry McCain right here.
He's about to be a star.
He don't know how to show up on time because he watched his big homie,
his superstar, and his team do that for a year. And he should. He should about to be a star. He don't know how to show up on time because he watched his big homie, his superstar, and his team
do that for a year.
He should be watching Maxie. Maxie's out.
Who can you watch
on the team? Why are you just blaming
him and who can you watch on the team?
Fuck! God damn, that's what I'm talking about.
Who are you watching? Maxie's not
there. He's not playing, right?
But he ain't late to shit.
That's the difference.
He's that film work. He's on the bus. He's not playing right, but he ain't late to shit. That's the difference He's not late to nothing
They say I broke my back and all this shit
I give my heart to this Philly and treat me like this. That's the day he said fuck fuck everything
Yeah, cool. That's better. That is fair. That's the day y'all sorry y'all gonna treat me like this everything I did for you
I did for y'all. y'all going to do me like this?
He said, and that's when his ass was looking like coming to America on the sideline.
Great.
Yep, and he was out there with a half face doing the same thing, giving 50.
The half face.
So basketball reference is currently giving the Sixers less than a 1% chance to make the playoffs.
Is it too late for Philly to get this thing turned around?
We are 13 games in the season.
They are 2-11, worst record in the league. There is still time for Philly to get this thing turned around? We are 13 games in the season. They are 2-11.
Worst record in the league.
There is still time, though,
ladies and gentlemen.
69 games left.
The East is all fucked up now.
No, because...
And it is a logjam.
It is not going to play
a half of a game,
so it's over with.
No, Diddy.
It's over, man.
They win two games, they good.
If it's over, trade them.
They take them to L.A.
They probably want to come
to L.A. anyway.
There are currently only four teams in the East with winning records.
Which is crazy.
And despite being 2-11, there are only three games out of the 10th spot for the plan.
So they good.
They good.
It's the habit, man.
It's the habit.
If he really wants to be who he say he wants to be, he needs
to be somewhere that's going to
force him to be there.
It needs to be
a place where they don't
give a fuck about your name. It means nothing to them.
That's only Pat Riley. At this point,
you can only go to Pat Riley
to restart who you're going to be.
Go there for two, three years and then boom,
you can leave.
But you need to see what it's like to your stats don't matter.
How hard Jimmy Butler goes, none of that shit matters to Pat Riley.
He don't give a fuck about none of that.
LeBron, I don't give a fuck about none of that.
I don't give a fuck about your name.
He took his chocolate chip cookies off the plane. I don't give a fuck about none of that. I don't give a fuck about your name. He took his chocolate chip cookies off the plane.
I don't give a fuck about that.
This is, we don't want nobody eating sweets, right?
Those are LeBron cookies.
We don't want nobody eating sweets.
Get them off the motherfucking plane.
Greg, did you see LeBron have chocolate chip cookies on the plane?
Man, LeBron deal with that shit?
Yes, I did.
Did you see those cookies get taken away?
I didn't necessarily see them get taken away,
but one of my favorite stories,
they took our food away after the game
and we paid for it. So when we got
on the plane, Brian started walking
up and down the plane.
Hey, everybody take off your headphones.
Everybody take off your headphones.
If you ain't one of these 15,
I'm giving y'all permission to slap food out their hand
don't touch this food this our food hey cold as shit ever ray allen over there like you don't see
this you don't see this like hey hey that's different right here what was it popeyes roscoe
nice healthy food you know they got the 10 body body fat. Whatever you is right there, that's what you got to be at.
Either be under 10% body fat or be at that weight where you was at 10% body fat.
That's all that matters.
Did any of the players slap the food out of any of the non-players' hands?
Michael Beasley, crazy ass, right there in front of the assistant GM, big Andy.
He was like, Andy, don't make me do this.
Michael Beasley is, don't make me do this. Michael Beasley is,
don't make me do this.
Hey.
He had me crying.
He was like,
please don't make me do this, Andy.
Stop eating brown and attuned food.
But we asked the chat,
you think the 76ers can turn things around
nearly 5,000 votes?
64% said no.
No.
Damn, that's some,
the process is not to be trusted.
Turn it around meaning they make the playoffs? I mean, shit, at this point. Damn, that's some, the process is not to be trusted. Turn it around, meaning they make the playoffs?
I mean, shit, at this point.
You're supposed to be a
championship contender.
Is it Paul Jordan? Maybe next year.
Let's try again next year.
Did Milwaukee do the same thing, though?
What? They had a team meeting, too.
They over it. Don't worry about them, either.
So they over it?
We're going to talk Milwaukee in a second, but first, Gil,
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So you mentioned Milwaukee. Things going a little
bit differently on the Bucs side.
Dame Lillard returned from the concussion protocol
last night after missing the Bucs
last three games,
and it would prove to be Dame time immediately.
Well, not quite immediately, but towards the end of the game.
Dame played 36 minutes, scoring 18 points, dropping 10 dimes.
He was 6 for 18 in his return.
Giannis had 20 points and 13 boards.
Also had a season-high 8 turnovers, though.
Brooke Lopez had 27 points on 11-15 shooting including five
for eight from three. Let's watch a little bit of these highlights. Freak
Time was back in action. Gill's favorite coach Doc Rivers, Gill's favorite
assistant coach, none other than Darvin Hinn. Taking on these Rockets. So let's
go late in the game. Rockets up one, trying to extend the lead. Giannis comes through with the huge block.
Soft ass shot.
Finds Dame Lillard.
Dame, first game back.
After being in concussion protocol.
One point game.
Concussion protocol.
You know I be stumbling sometimes.
But I always get back to where we need to go.
Hit the layup to give the Bucks a one point lead.
And a defender like that ain't good. Shang the layup to give the Bucs a one-point lead.
Shangoon ended up tricking the inbounds pass to help
the Rockets win the game.
What's up with all these
mistakes at the end of games lately?
On the block?
Yeah.
When he got the ball back, he said he stepped out of bounds.
The refs missed it.
Shangoon had a chance to win the game for the Rockets.
Thank God he missed that.
We will tell you why in a second.
But Bucs have now won three out of their last four games.
Only loss coming to the Hornets, and that was a one-point loss.
They're 5-9 on the season.
Are the Bucs starting to right the ship?
They've won three of their last four games.
We don't have Mr. B here,
so we have an impartial crew on the couch.
Right the ship. Right this shit.
Three and one.
Yeah.
They don't make it to the playoffs just because of talent to me.
No.
I think so, and I feel, yeah.
I think Dane shut us up.
Did he shut you up from that pass he did?
Remember he threw the pass to the corner for game last time?
Made a game-winning shot this time.
You and Ken, remember that shit?
They beat the Rockets by one.
Like, I'm sorry.
A strong Rockets team.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Rockets are okay.
They had a fucking win streak?
Yeah.
Strong Rockets team, dude.
Oh, shit against what?
The Pistons, the Raptors?
Like, I mean, I'm sorry, but what are we talking about?
NBA teams. What are we talking about? NBA teams.
What are we talking about?
NBA teams.
You're beating the, you're supposed to be a championship caliber team coming into the season as top four or five.
And you want to celebrate your beating bottom feeding teams?
Didn't he lose to the Pistons?
Cheated. Cool.
Cool.
Let's clap.
Right?
Right.
They beat...
One of their biggest wins was against Philly.
Look at their record right now.
Like, come on.
Like, this is...
But you can't say that.
The whole East is like that, but two teams.
So, it don't matter.
You can't say that. The whole East is like that, but two teams. So, it don't matter.
You can't say that.
The whole East is like that, but two teams.
And they beat Houston.
They beat Houston.
Houston is what?
They in A spot.
Those are the Easts.
Yeah, they've also beat Utah.
Hey, who's the All-Star on Houston?
Who's the All-Star?
Who's the All-NBA player on Houston?
Big Man Cole.
Shane Gould?
He made All-Star?
How many All-Stars has he made?
Andrew.
We're projecting.
Oh, he hasn't made All-Star.
Okay. How about any All-NBA has he made? We're projecting. Oh, he hasn't made All-Stars. Okay.
How about all NBAs?
Because of politics, Gil.
Politics.
So I got a top 75 player, first ballot at Hall of Famer.
Probably at this moment in time, he's a power forward.
He's probably already done crack what the top seven power forwards of all time.
And you telling me we winning by one we should be excited it's a team
all right man cool cool they on the same team it's a team a win is a win cool man i'm gonna
take any win i can get man cool cool y'all yeah tell me that right now cool i see it
like oh we just gonna take these wins and stack up these cool like they should be
i'll start somewhere to turn it around dominant i think hey I don't know if y'all want to go back in history.
Go look at the Utah Jazz.
Hmm.
And look at the rest of the...
You got the two stars,
then look at the rest of the team.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
But that's the whole league.
Shaq and Kobe.
Shaq and Kobe.
That's the whole league back then.
You look at the other three goddamn players.
That's the whole league back then.
Cool.
Goddamn.
Don't disrespect Jeff Hornacek like that.
And Tony Kukoc was a goddamn... Oh, yeah, he was't disrespect Jeff Hornacek like that. And Tony Kukoc was a goddamn good guy. Oh, yeah, he was good.
Jeff Hornacek.
Oh, Russell.
Woo, shit.
Yeah, Russell.
Goddamn.
Yeah.
So the Bucks have the 12th hardest strength of schedule.
Wait, what?
That's a thing?
So far this season.
Wait, what?
That's a thing?
12th hardest.
12th hardest what?
Who said that?
What? Who wrote that? Based on team records 12th hardest. 12th hardest what? Who wrote the hardest schedule right now? Who said that?
What?
Who wrote that?
Based on team records.
Thank you.
Off of team...
If you're fucking got two wins, everybody's harder than you.
It's not your record, Gil.
It's the records of the teams that you play.
If I have two...
11th hardest, excuse me.
Lakers at 18.
Houston's number four.
Cavs are at 28.
Celtics are at 30. Cavs have 28. 28th hardest strength schedule. Hardest give me Lakers at a number for casser at 28 now. Oh, they'll do that 30th
cast at 28
28th hardest rate schedule so far this season based on the records of the teams that they play good like you pointed out
Who's has you have a lot of bottom feeders on your schedule early on in the season who said the hardest?
Let me pull it up
Let me make sense
Don't make sense the Nets have had the hardest strength of schedule so far.
Followed by the Wizards, the Clippers, and the Jazz and the Bulls.
Well, that makes sense.
Because, what, the Jazz ain't got no damn wins.
Man.
So, Rockets, Hornets, they lost, goddamn.
The Pistons, the Raptors.
Who are these Milwaukee friends?
All top 30 teams.
Celtics, Knicks.
All top 30.
Utah Jazz.
Cleveland, Cleveland.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah, shut it up.
Grizzlies.
Shut it up.
That's with Jai.
That's with Jai. Grizzlies. This is up. That's with Ja. That's with Ja.
Grizzlies.
This is Milwaukee's game this year.
Nets, Bulls, Philly.
Like, dog.
Yeah, you said some good-ass games they played.
All NBA teams.
They haven't played anybody.
They haven't played anybody for this record.
And then moving forward, who they got next?
Pacers, Hornets again, Heat, Wizards.
They got the Bulls on Wednesday.
They're going to lose two of these to who?
To who?
They're supposed to win them all.
Who are they going to lose to?
None of them.
Miami.
Pacers and Miami.
And Miami.
Pacers and Miami.
They're playing well.
They are.
Pacers are playing well, but I think...
Pacers is playing well. But that's well, but I think Pacers is
They can't beat the East nobody winning in the East but two teams
Look at everybody rather playing the West. No, they're not currently 14 in the East with winning records
Obviously the magic are on that win streak right now the The fact that you arguing for a team that's supposed
to win a championship,
that's the problem.
It's the...
Like, like, like...
Like, Cavs,
there was no one wrote
Cavs will win a championship,
but they're dominating.
Oh, they start like that.
They're getting better.
But they're dominating.
Why can't...
They're young guys
Why can't the Bucs
start like this?
Young guys are getting better.
Why can't the Bucs
start like this?
They don't have a complete team like the Cavs do. Why can't the Bucs start like this? Why can't the Bucs start like this?
They don't have a complete team like the Cavs do.
Cavs got a good-ass team.
There's been problems for the past few years.
Yeah, they've been pushing for this. Winning the championship, new coach.
Let him play, what, 14 games, new coach.
We can't guard nobody.
Start off, we can't guard nobody.
At least give them that three and one.
Yeah, let's go.
Come on, man.
You got a goddamn.
Who is they?
Let me just give you some information that may impact how you currently view
Doc Rivers, Darvin Hammond, this Bucs squad.
Oh, they got Doc in here?
Yeah, yeah.
Give me that.
They got the Doc in here?
The Bucs went over the rocket.
Woo!
The Bucs went over the rocket.
I'm here. Moved the Lakers into the third spot into the West. I like that. They got the doctor in here. The Bucs went over the Rockets. The Bucs went over the Rockets. I'm here.
Moved the Lakers into the third spot, into the West.
I like that.
Okay.
I like that.
So Doc has watched the show.
He said, you know, I'm going to help you.
I'm going to help your Lakers squad elevate.
Damn, they got Doc in here.
Oh, no wonder you hate the Bucs.
They got both of them.
Both of them.
Doc in here.
Doc in here.
No wonder you hate them.
So we're going to start with everybody else on this couch first.
Hey, where do they rank?
Where do they rank in?
I don't think anybody pays attention to the offense
because they keep thinking about the defensive end.
Nobody is going to say that they don't even get enough shots up
to win in today's NBA.
They don't get enough shot attempts.
They're getting 80-80, 1-80.
How many shots did y'all WM18 get up?
I don't even know.
Whose fault is that?
Less than that.
Hell yeah.
Because before he got there, that same year,
they were taking a damn near 100.
Let's see.
He took fucking 15 to 20 possessions out of the game.
Look at the team.
Bucks are currently shooting
87 field goal.
87 field.
19th in the NBA.
What is this?
1991?
What year is this?
They got...
What year is this?
It's the year on the board.
They ain't got nobody to shoot
besides two people.
Between like 65, 75.
They ain't got nobody to shoot.
67.
How many minutes you play?
Yeah, we only play 10-minute quarters.
10-minute quarters.
Eight less minutes.
10-minute quarters.
Y'all shooting 75 shots.
And they're shooting 10 more shots.
This is an NBA team today.
This ain't the Pistons where you don't have the one guy that's going to take all the shots.
A team thing, we're going to pass it around.
This is the UCLA Cup.
We're going to cut across, right?
Like, you're shooting 80-something possessions
in today's NBA.
Yes.
Yeah, because look at the team you got.
Boston shot 63s.
That's Boston.
63s.
Three.
They shooting 80s.
We can't compare Boston to Milwaukee.
No, they're only, I'm like,
I just looked at a bunch of random double games.
Let's stop. 75, 85. Look, they're only... I'm like, I just looked at a bunch of random double games. Let's stop.
75-85.
Look at their team.
Name their starting lineup and name Boston's starting lineup.
That's crazy.
Come on, man.
With eight less minutes.
Yeah, that's bad.
I ain't gonna lie.
They got an old-ass lineup, bro, that don't run.
Their team can't run like Boston.
Their team is not a running team with Brooke Lopez
and Grant Jr. and fucking
Gary Trent Jr.
Gary Trent Jr. and what's the
other one?
Torrin Prince. Hey, that's cute
because before Doc
got there, they were averaging, they were
number two in scoring. Before
Doc got there, they was number two in the
NBA in scoring. So, they was fast the team, Rich? Before Doc got there, they was number two in the NBA in scoring.
So they was fast then.
The very next day Doc got there, they slow as the motherfucker now, huh?
They just older than the bitch now, huh?
Different team, Rich.
Yeah, hey, today I took 110 shots, and I'm fast.
Tomorrow new coach, 84, I'm older than a bitch,
and I need to be sitting down.
Yeah, that shit sounds good.
Different team, man.
No, it's the same team.
It's called a different coach.
Different team.
You ain't winning in today's NBA taking 80 motherfucking shots.
I'm sorry.
I don't care what your analytics say.
Today's NBA, you are not going to beat anybody taking
80 plus shots. If you don't
jump your, because that means, one,
you're moving too slow,
which means whatever defense you're
playing against is all set.
So they are at
perfection at this point. So how come they can't?
Then that means the other team is probably getting more offensive rebounds.
The games they've won, they've shot 90 plus shots.
They had a different thing last year, too, though.
Malik had Malik.
Listen to this.
They have taken.
The games that they've won, they've been up in the 90s in attempts.
So why do you think they can't?
Wait, you said when?
When they won?
But the teams that they're playing against are still taking four.
They won last night.
They took 83 shots.
They got to rely on defense right now.
83, and the team that they beat took 100.
They got one three-point shooter.
They got one and a half three-point shooter in their lineup.
Think about it.
The other teams, the teams that are bad, 100 shots.
You're not throwing it to Terry.
Because even the games that they are getting 90, 95 attempts,
the other team is getting like 95 to 100 shots.
I'll tell you their field goal attempts and wins this season,
starting first with their win over the Sixers back on October 23rd.
They took 80 shots in that game.
Took 84 shots in their win over the Jazz.
94 shots in their win over the Raptors.
95 in their win over the Pistons.
And 83 last night.
Ew.
That sounds so bad because I live in Indianapolis,
so them Pacers is getting it up down there.
Oh, yeah.
The Pacers ain't got somebody that's going to get the rebound
and go coast to coast instead of somebody pushing it up
and shooting threes.
The honors get the rebound, got it dribbled all the way down
and go Euro.
He's not pushing it ahead to shoot.
Woo!
So he's been doing the same thing, right?
So how are they shooting 100?
They ain't got Millington to shoot three.
He wasn't there last year.
How many shots did Terrence Prince and Grant shoot a game?
Zero.
Thank you.
What?
Yeah, Prince yesterday was like...
How can you get...
You got to have somebody that want to shoot.
They got Connaughton in there.
Connaughton?
I mean, he's the only other shooter.
That's what I'm saying.
But who else is shooting?
They don't want to shoot.
Brooks.
Prince is there because him, like, he started with him.
Who they got on their team?
Prince?
No, no, no, no.
The other ones.
The ones that's going to go in the Hall of Fame.
Dame.
And Dame, right?
Three-point shooter in the top.
Dame and then Giannis, right? Three-point shooter and the... And then...
And then Giannis, right?
But the others gotta shoot.
Hold on.
So you just...
Just those two, right?
You got them two.
So they supposed to get up a hundred shots together?
Brooke gonna go in about ten years after.
So you got two people,
and you asking who gonna shoot the ball?
Who's gonna shoot?
Brooke supposed to shoot 15 times?
He's gonna shoot at least 10 threes.
He has to.
That's all you gonna get from Brooke.
That's fine if you're going to shoot.
That's what I'm saying. But what else?
And when, when, when Colb had 81, what the rest of, do you know what the rest of
that team looked like?
Different era. Different, different era.
No, do you know what the team, the, the team.
Different era.
You know who was in the starting lineup, right?
Different era.
Right?
Different era.
You know, but no, what I'm saying is you do you know the other
players that was on the team right it was four four men different era yeah it was it was buying
them that's when it was right it was buying them one or two it was um it was Lamar Odom in the game
at the same time you had Kwame in the game at the same time and then you had uh what's his name uh
Luke Walton in that sometimes at the game game, Romanovich, right? We know
who has to shoot the ball. We can triple team him. He's still going to get the motherfucker
up. He's going to get it up. What I'm saying is I got a guy who averages 32. Hey, brother,
you might have to average 38. Hey, you, damn, you average 26. You might have to average
30. That's the kind of team we have. But the fact that you're going to keep swinging the ball over here
knowing he's going to not shoot it and swing it back,
that's the point.
Like, I got Cam on my team.
I know Cam going to play.
31 minutes might take two shots,
which means 95% of the time he in a game,
he ain't going to touch this bitch.
So why?
Right?
So it ain't no swing.
Swing is on.
Go.
I'm not going to swing it. But we know you're going to do's on... Go! I'm not gonna swing it.
But we know you're gonna do that, though.
So I'm just gonna double-team you.
I'm gonna make them other guys shoot.
Right, and they ain't gonna shoot the ball quicker and sooner.
And once they miss two, you know they ain't gonna shoot no more.
Because they're waiting for the end of the shot clock just to get the ball back,
just so they can go score again.
They need to just do it immediately.
Once them corner do shoot three,
miss two shots,
they ain't gonna shoot no more.
You can easily double team a goddamn person
that's gonna drive like Yonan.
When did the beginning
of the season start?
Well, if you get double teamed
and shoot,
then that's one less person
to go rebound.
So go get the rebound
and go put it back up.
All right, so y'all...
And how is that Doc fault
for him not being that aggressive
and shooting 40 shots?
He's still... So Max maxi first game of the season
31 shots
Compare they my 31 shots that so slow. There's no Paul George
There's no MB. They took 98 shots that game
While doc while Doc Rivers shot eight.
Because it's slow.
Think about it.
They took 98 shots.
Why?
And the Bucs took 80 shots.
18 more shots with star.
With no Paul George.
With no Paul George in the NBA.
And that means Darman Ham doing his job
because they won off defense.
This is embarrassing.
Such a little troll over there.
I like that.
I would say that Lakers roster that you just named was embarrassing.
Dirty.
I was thoroughly disgusted when you said it out loud.
I was like, no.
Them three can't be on the court together.
Oh, man. Kobe's got 50 shots one game.
Cool.
Last game, he got a mini score of 60.
He shot 40 something.
Cool. What the fuck I'm passing y'all the ball for?
That's what I'm saying.
You're not gonna do it.
What am I passing y'all the ball for?
When are these stars gonna realize
there's a reason the dude in the corner
make $3 million, right?
No, they don't make $3 million.
Don't pass him the ball.
He gets $3 million worth of? Don't pass him the ball.
He gets $3 million worth of shots.
Daniel's got 100 something.
Hey, he going to get eight.
Whatever, however that map do, goddammit,
your shots should equal.
That ain't the, this time has changed.
You can't go back to 2009.
No, no, I'm just saying.
I agree with him on that one.
I agree with him.
The others is way more important these days.
A man. The others. No. important these days. A man. Who?
The others.
No.
The others.
What?
No, no.
They're one role players.
They're not, man.
No.
They're saying that because you're playing with the corner
niggas is important now.
No, y'all not.
They are, but they got to shoot the ball.
You need us.
No, you're not.
This ain't back in the day.
It is.
You have to shoot the ball to be important.
You got to need us.
They don't need you.
You need us.
They're not important niggas.
They not getting talked up.
I need you.
Who we need, Nick? We need them corners. I ain't going to say it, but you said it already, so. You got to be important. You got to be important. They're not important because they not getting talked up.
Who we need, Nick?
We need them Qantas.
I ain't going to say it, but...
But you said it already, so...
Gotcha.
I said it, but that's my logo, so you can't...
We are still discussing with Underdog.
No, it ain't his name on the board.
It is your logo and it is your mantra.
You know, I'm the CEO of the board of Qantas, Nick.
So it's just superseded... Yeah, you know...'m the CEO of the board corner. So it's just super steep.
Yeah, you know.
You the CEO of who?
The corners.
27 minutes, five shots.
The corners.
Thank you.
Why you getting mad at them?
Why are you on the court?
Why are you in this NBA game?
Especially the way the game is played right now.
This is like having a receiver that don't go nowhere.
Pike! He just. They old minded. The game is played right now. Like, why are you in there? This is like having a receiver that don't go nowhere. But they old-
Pike!
He just-
They old-minded.
Just sitting here like a motherfucker.
They old-minded.
Good job, y'all.
They need some fresh blood.
That's crazy.
They scarred.
Like, them guys scarred.
They played in a generation where y'all got talk too crazy, have to look over crazy. They've been looking over their shoulders for some years.
They think they're going to come out if they mess up.
You need some fresh blood in there.
Somebody that ain't afraid to shoot.
What's his name?
The kid in Philly.
The team for the old.
And Milwaukee, too.
It ain't like an old dude in L.A.
What I'm saying is, like, how, what are you, like,
I can say if you was running a Princeton and something like that and the ball is moving around, cool.
But this is free-flowing offense and you're only getting up eight shots?
I don't get it.
You need fresh blood?
How, like...
That's not a free-flowing shot.
Is it really free-flowing?
Yeah, it is, right?
Pass, right?
No, you ain't got to... Shooting 80 shots, that's not free-flowing. That's not a phrase. Is it really free-flowing? Yeah, it is. Pass, right? You ain't got to... Shooting 80 shots, that's not free-flowing.
That's what you're doing.
That means you're probably walking the ball up the court.
You know what?
Hold on.
Because this is the slowest man in America on offense.
The same way you just...
Hold on.
This is the...
I'm going...
You know where I'm going.
The slowest man in America.
Let's see how many shots they get up.
Jokic.
The slowest man in America.
He run offense.
No talking about Denver.
Joker or Luca.
Slow-mo.
They got 88 shots up.
We're talking about
Chris Paul.
The slowest man in America.
That ball don't stick over there.
22 seconds. He going to pick and roll it.
How many shots they taking? There's no way Milwaukee should be in front of them. But that ball don't stick over there. No, he... 22 seconds, he going pick and roll it. I wanted...
How many shots they taking?
There's no way Milwaukee should be in front of them.
Give me one second.
Behind them in shot attempts with Chris Paul.
You know how Chris Paul plays.
Chris Paul ain't still playing like that.
Yeah, he is.
My ass.
What?
Yeah.
Gonna give grenades at the end.
Yo, Spurs are taking 85.8 shot attempts per game,
so that is below the buzz.
They're 21st in the league.
85.8 field goal attempts per game. All right. Well... So they're taking 85.8 shot attempts per game. So that is below the buzzer 21st in the league 85.8
Per game. All right, so they're behind me walking there that make that makes sense. Okay
One but that makes it
Don't make it seem like it's over the course of the season
Really point eight. You get slower at 40.
I know. That's what I'm saying.
You can't still play like that.
I get mad.
So, my last question about the Bucs.
You're not gonna keep giving me this ball to end like this.
What will it take for you to believe in the Bucs?
Nothing.
What level of winning streak would they need to have
where you will say something complimentary
about Doc Rivers and Darvyn Hamm?
20. 20? Okay, can you put them like that? 20 wins. 20 straight wins. In a row. But they need to have where you will say something complimentary about dog room over here 20, okay
Can you put this money when he wins 20?
I'm saying this is the East
You know what the problem is I think the
we push the
The bar so low when they start losing if they show any progress we give them a high five
They are supposed to be a they stop
14 in today's NBA so they can win 20 in a row
Yeah, and then go to third I'm not clapping for shit
No, because that's where they supposed to you supposed to be one or two
You make that is where you supposed to be and they get a a little smoke? Like, no. No.
Like, if Boston started off the season
bad and then they get
to number one
and they be like,
oh yeah, Boston's doing great.
No, that's not right.
No, they supposed to be.
They won a championship
like this where they
supposed to fucking win.
Brought everybody back.
Put it like this.
If the Boston was 15-0,
we'd be like,
cool.
Yeah, cool.
That's not impressive for y'all.
That's impressive for the Cavs.
That's very impressive for the Cavs.
Not impressive for Boston.
If New York goes on a 15 game winning,
of course they're going to be in the news, but we got you third.
This is where we have you.
So you'll get snow claps from us Jack
Not it not Mary. They do not in there. No, no
Someone's gonna have someone
Someone from the year
2000 is gonna have to really explain to my brain how a man won
coach of the Year
with a record of 41 and 41.
Y'all gonna...
Someone has to explain that to me.
Where's the coaching?
Doc's sick.
No, I'm just saying.
That's sick.
It's the worst one in history.
All right, well...
Doc is just a cool dude to everybody.
I know, he's too cool.
Cool.
He's a cool dude to everybody.
He got it off of... Like some people get drafted. I know you're too cool. Cool. The cool He got it off
Like some people get drafted just know somebody I know somebody gotta do I'll take that
Doc I respect you with a job. They would a job. Let's ship it back over
No, no more you should have a doc but no no what I'm saying is okay
Okay, okay, no more. You should have a Doc button on this one. No, what I'm saying is, okay. You should have a Doc button on this one. Okay, so someone's going to have to actually explain.
Whoever voted going to...
Okay, so we're going to go back in years.
I'm going looking at it.
They went 50...
So before Doc get there, they go 50 and 32,
57 and 25, 60 and 22, 45 and 37.
Then went 41 and 41,
and then there was a lockout year.
They went 33 and 17,
which is 66%. Who, the Clippers?
No, Orlando Magic.
Oh, shit.
So how did coming back
the next season at 41 and 41
going 50% get you
coach of the year?
That doesn't even make sense
when the percentage the year before was 66%.
You had to know somebody.
And didn't make the playoffs.
Right, that is.
They didn't make the playoffs.
Like, I don't...
Was there another Rivers that was supposed to get in?
They just fucked up?
Like they did in the Olympics with the medal?
Just called the wrong name or something, like...
They didn't want to snatch this bitch back.
That was Dwight here?
Huh?
That was Dwight?
No, this is...
I don't know.
You're what?
You're 99, 2000 years.
Oh, you're a doc going to 2000 years.
Or Darryl Armstrong.
Darryl Armstrong.
That's why. That's why.
Darryl Armstrong.
How many wins Mike Dunleavy had a year before? Darryl Armstrong. Darryl Armstrong. That's why. That's why. That's his name. Darryl Armstrong.
How many wins Mike Dunleavy had a year before?
Darryl Armstrong won a lake.
33 and 17.
It was a half year.
They won 66% of their game.
OK, Mike Dunleavy.
Made the playoffs.
No, Chuck Daly.
Chuck Daly.
Mm.
Mm.
Where's Chuck Daly?
What, in 99?
98, 99.
It was 37 and 17.
Doc only got one coach of the year?
When the fuck did he supposed to get another one?
With Boston?
The one he won?
How'd he get this one?
I thought he probably won one with Boston, that team.
He didn't win one with Boston?
They should have gave it to him.
That's why I thought he should have won one.
That's why.
You know what?
All right, my bad.
Listen, listen.
You got one you didn't supposed to have because I don't know how you got that one
You're supposed to have one in Boston. We just gonna take this one and we're gonna take
Orlando off right and then we just gonna put That time. He didn't vote for himself. No, that's not his fault. I know. That's why I said you're going to have to explain that one.
That was weird.
When else was he supposed to win another one?
So he's supposed to have won.
Cool.
All right.
I'm satisfied with that one.
That's a new team and all and you win the first year.
You didn't win 41 and 41.
He did win the first year.
Yeah.
He's supposed to have that one.
Yeah, yeah.
No, we're going to give him that one.
We're supposed to have zero.
All right.
Well, let's keep this moving.
I feel like enough Doc Rivers slander for the Lord's Tuesday.
That's like leading the league in scoring and He'll as average 19 and then there's somebody did with 35
Getting the call you want. For real? What? You want a coach in the end?
Who's he lying?
Y'all punk me, right?
Y'all prank me.
Is it April Fool's?
Yeah.
I know it's April.
I know it's April.
I know it's April.
Moving on, we're back to the Western Conference.
The Clippers and Warriors met at the end of a... I need a raise.
Was T-Mac on that team?
I need one too.
No.
The Clippers and Warriors met at the end to a dome last night
in a matchup featuring two players who have made more threes
than anyone else in NBA history,
and Steph Curry and James Harden.
More and Harden reaching that milestone a little later,
but let's show some highlights from the game.
The Warriors entered the game with the best record in the West,
and the Clippers were on the second night of a back-to-back,
making their 102-99 win all that more impressive.
Look at them sharing a moment right there.
Okay.
Uh-oh.
Harden had a double-double with 12 points and 16 assists,
struggling from the field a bit,
shooting 4 for 15 in his 41 minutes of action.
Norm Powell led the Clippers with 23 points.
He was 9 for 15 from the field and 5 for 6 from 3.
Avicii Zubac had 8 points, 17 rebounds in 36 minutes. He was also a 15 from the field and 5 for 6 from three. Ivica Zubac had 8.17 rebounds in 36 minutes.
He was also a game-high plus 21 while he was on the court.
So Steph Curry led all scorers with 26 points.
Here you go. Three of them right here.
But it wasn't enough as the Clippers improved.
Oh, shit. 8-7 on the damn.
I'm gonna slow my am. Oh, shit. 87 on the damn.
I'm going to slow my way.
Yeah, Kyle.
Y'all don't have to put that in the highlight.
Like we said, Clippers got the dub.
Dang.
I got a question.
87 on the season, Nick.
Can he win most improved at his age?
Who?
Kyle.
Yeah.
You can win it?
There's not an age limit on that.
I thought it was like a young thing. That was the question? No, it's usually an age limit. I thought it was like a young thing. That was that was a question
No, it's usually a young thing because like think about a young player how much they average
Like they average like nine this year and then they take that jump and average of 17
There's someone in the W who won that shit twice
You improve and you have a horrible year, then improve off of that year. Who was it?
I don't even remember.
So Powell averaged 14 points per game last year, 23.3.
She was like at the end of her career.
She had already won it before, and then they gave it to her again.
Ain't this the oldest person to win most improved?
Jackson wins.
Seattle.
No, she was in, it was, I think it was Leilani Mitchell.
She played for the Mercury.
She was good, but I was like, how you win most improved twice? Um, I think it was Leilani Mitchell. She played for the Mercury. So, Power is...
But I was like, how you win most improved twice?
Power is 14 points per game last season, 76 games.
This year, so far, he's averaging 23.3.
Oh, yeah.
So, he's a plus nine?
Plus nine.
So, this would be the oldest person?
Yeah.
Okay.
The only thing that hurt him is if somebody who has, a plus seven and they make the All-Star game.
Because that basically is the most improved.
Like your improvement from...
So...
So Sangoon?
Nah, Sangoon was...
He's playing worse this year.
Yeah, he was last year.
Who's out there?
It's him and who?
Dick...
Oh, Dick Grady, maybe.
Grady Dick.
That sounds weird.
That sounds weird.
Dick Grady sounds sore.
That Grady Dick sounds...
Grady Trace.
Dirtier than a motherfucker, don't it?
Can you say that name on ESPN?
Huh?
Can you say Grady Dick on ESPN?
Oh.
You can.
You can.
That's his name.
You can. No, but that's his name. Yeah,. You can. That's his name. Right?
No, but that's his name.
Yeah, that's right.
That's his name.
You can?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh.
Because it's on his jersey.
You can be like this.
But I know, Gil,
you will find that loophole
with that and take it to 11.
Wait, what is he averaging?
Because he's the only one
that I see.
Dick averages.
Who, Grady?
Yeah.
Let me pull it up.
Dick averages about nine
when he's home. Hey, I'm saying. Dick averages about 9 when he's home.
Dick averages about 9 when he's home.
He's averaging 18.
So he's averaging 19 this season.
Oh, so he's a plus 9, too.
Oh, he get a plus 9?
But they suck.
So he's a plus 9, so it'll be between them two.
So far.
Yeah, plus 9.2.
He's on Utah, right?
He's on Raptors.
He's on Raptors.
Oh, they suck.
8.5 last season. It's the same. 18.7 this season. I'm? He's on Raptors. He's on Raptors. Oh, they suck down the record. They were 8.5 last year.
It's the same.
18.7 this year.
They're going to come down the record.
They're going to come down the record or age?
No, record.
No, it's going to come down the record.
It's whoever.
It's just the plus.
It's just.
It's easy for like.
I'm saying if they stay at plus 9.
No, what I'm saying is look at him because he's young from last year to this year.
That's why he's so good.
But same thing with Powell.
But he's been averaging around this. Except for Powell. He... But he been averaging around this,
except for the 20s,
but he averaged about 14, 17, 18.
And this one don't have none of yours.
And a young guy coming in,
jumping from, like, seven to...
But that's what I said.
It's usually a young guy
because those are the only ones that jump.
Like, once you're older, you're already...
You're stuck somewhere.
They can jump like that.
Mm-hmm. All right, so it's...
Who else? Man, that's... It's just them two, right? You're already you're stuck like that. All right, so it's Well, man
It's just them two, right?
Do you know I'll watch one night is on an empty only one one thing
Nobody even if Philly still all this other shit is news to me then but the McCain kid keeps playing well
He'll win rookie of the year. Yeah, he won win rookie of the year. Even if they still keep losing?
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, because most of the rookies of the year,
it's never about their record.
Yeah.
It's never about their record.
You think he's going to, like, see...
Man, when he get in the game, listen, man,
I don't know if you watched him play.
He ain't listening.
He's unconscious.
He ain't taking no backseat.
No.
No.
So they're going to have to play together.
Who, him and Maxie?
Him and Maxie.
Ain't enough basketballs out there.
I, it's... Because he can play 2-2, him and Maxie? Him and Maxie. Ain't enough basketballs out there. Hey, it's...
Because he can play 2-2, the problem is...
He's so little.
They both little.
I'm just one of them Phillies sitting back here saying...
His contract is cheap enough right now
with this extension to get rid of them because
There's no one who's not gonna sit like
Let's say Cleveland
Hey, give me your two big man having be they saying yeah, they knew that huh?
They wouldn't do that who Philly Cleveland Cleveland
They need you crazy as hell. He crazy.
Man, stop.
I mean, Cleveland don't ain't winning no motherfucking championship.
They need a star setter.
You crazy as hell.
I'm getting rid of my two big men that ain't got no name for him.
No, he got a name.
You crazy.
Big man got a name.
Top five.
Top five.
Who?
Big man.
Power four.
Them boys playing well. Mobley and Allen are playing well together. They can stay healthy. Top four. Them boys playing well.
Mobley and Allen are playing well together.
If they can stay healthy, I believe in them two for real.
I got a chance to get...
It's your top five.
I got a chance to get Joel Embiid on my team.
I'm going to jump at it every time.
But he's not professional.
We just know this.
It's a jump.
I'm not about to get Embiid to play.
Man, listen.
I'm in the lane.
My God. Yes, sir. Hey, this is Cleveland. This is Cleveland. Jump. It's a it's a I'm not about to get him be the player I'm in the lane
This is Cleveland. This is Cleveland. We don't get many stars over here
We'll get many black people around these parks. So if I got one that I can trade for it. I got a big name
I'm go I gotta do it. Yeah
Have to do it. They got a TV Detroit Pistons. I have to do it. They got a TV Detroit Pistons. I have to do it
Charlotte I have to do it. It's a Cleveland not taking Oh
Sacramento I have to do it. There's certain cities that goddammit. This is the name I need. Oh, no
I'm sorry
15 and old record don't have nothing to do with selling these seats out and selling them jerseys.
I'm sorry, God damn it. Shit, I can't be.
Hey, I could be 72-0.
I know I ain't winning no championship.
You crazy.
72-0 and you know.
You put Sabonis in there with Maxie and Paul George.
Boy.
I can see that.
Sabonis in there? Oh, yeah. Sabonis with them? Whoa, boy. I just see that. I just see that. Sabonis in there?
Oh, yeah.
Sabonis with them?
Whoa, Lord.
Oh, I'll do it to Zach.
Give me Sabonis and Monk.
Nah, shit, I can't.
I don't need Monk.
I already got it.
I got it.
Jared, what's his name?
Give me Sabonis and Keenan.
They probably give a murky.
Keenan, yeah, yeah.
Or the shooter.
Yeah, come on.
Need the shooter.
They'll jump.
Now I got Sabonis.
I got Sabonis and and B. I'm good.
Oh, no, you taking the Spoon.
That's not going to happen.
I'm talking about Cleveland, though.
Come on, man.
Not Cleveland.
They got too good of a team.
Yeah, they.
Stars show that arena out, man.
They.
Mobley is, so you don't think Mobley is, come on, man.
You know we ain't got nothing else to do in Cleveland. Man, they suddenly let me out. Mobley is... So you don't think Mobley is... Come on, man.
You know we ain't got nothing else to do in Cleveland. Would Mobley ever have the name as Embiid?
Yes.
Embiid ruined his name?
He said that very proudly, but we all didn't feel it at all.
I got my dog back.
He went to USC.
No, I like him.
Nick, if you did go to USC, would you still say that?
Mobley?
Would he have a big name like Embiid?
Nah.
Because MB is like...
If I'm Philly,
if I'm Philly, I'm...
He's a personality.
I have to really think about it.
I would not trade for...
I would throw it on the open market.
I would not trade that. Underground. I'd throw it on the
underground market.
Throw it out there on the Bitcoin chain and the black chain.
And then see what comes back.
How about five teams?
Moby played about 70 games.
Give them over there to Charlotte.
Five, six teams.
Five, six teams?
Like, we're just on the motherfucking phone that you keep in your desk.
Just keep it if it rings.
Hey, how you doing?
What?
And B, what you want?
Every time.
Hey, hey.
They getting rid of Embiid.
What?
Fire sale.
Nobody's going to ask, what's wrong with it?
No.
At that point, I don't care.
I don't care.
But you're not giving up Mobley right now.
I'm not giving up Mobley right now.
And Allen?
They're playing well together.
I'm just saying,
it's a thing that you have to consider.
Why? Not Cleveland?
Now you got to change mid-season how y'all play.
You got to play without Embiid for a month or two. how y'all play. Indeed. He's like, we're in Bede, I don't care. We're out in Bede
for a couple,
a month or two.
Honestly, it makes
it feel like a team
that's detrimental.
We would like it.
That four or five?
You said Kyrie.
Mm-mm.
Uh, for who?
Isaiah Thomas.
You know,
let us think about it.
Ain't nobody
getting Kyrie, y'all.
Hey, sell him tickets.
Yeah, you know,
we're gonna think about it
a couple of times.
I mean, I'm not gonna give you a lot of money. I'm not gonna give you a lot of money. Uh, for who? Isaiah Thomas. You know, let us think about it.
Ain't we about to get Kyrie, y'all?
Hey, sell him tickets.
Yeah, you know, we're going to think about it a couple more hours and let you know.
Yeah, look what happened.
We got Kyrie, y'all.
And that's what happened.
That's what happened.
That's why the NBA fucked up now.
We was just shit fucked up.
What I'm saying is that certain names, man, like teams won't star.
Stars sell tickets.
Stars sell jerseys or sell shoes
I was already out the door. He wanted to go he might gonna stay there no matter what you had to get
So I get the call
Washington Wizards
And be yes Washington Wizards. We're not trading John Wall. We're gonna make it work. We love John Wall
Got a call hey, uh, we're trying to get rid of. We love John Wall. Got a call.
Hey, we're trying to get rid of Westbrook.
Would you want him?
Yesterday.
That was different.
That was hurt.
I just told this motherfucker we're going to keep him.
And they just threw Westbrook on the market?
Fuck yeah.
There's no thought process.
He just averaged a triple, double.
What I'm saying is,
there's some people you put on an open market,
there's no...
But it don't matter.
If my team is already...
They're not asking for Beal and John Wall.
But if my team 15-0, I'm not about to do that.
Okay.
For someone that's barely available.
Yeah.
You don't have to do that.
That means you're drinking the Kool-Aid
that shouldn't be drinking then.
You really believe in it.
Man, I believe in Mobley.
What we call it?
Really believe.
Well, let's talk about...
Now, I didn't say Donovan Mitchell and Garland, okay?
Right?
Let's talk about the Clippers right now.
8-7 on the season.
Kawhi has yet to play a game as he continues to rehab from his knee.
Nobody cares.
Are you surprised by the Clippers staying afloat without Kawhi?
No, it's the Clippers one.
Nobody cares.
It's the Clippers two.
Into it, though?
It's the Clippers.
They got the wall.
I heard it's cold.
I seen it.
It was all colorful and shit.
But I think James Harden should get some kind of credit, man.
Oh, yeah.
He should be getting credit for this.
The team is very motivated.
Like, he's really...
Man.
I think he feels it's his team,
and he gets to do what he wants with it.
We thought he was going to average about...
Well, I thought he was going to average about 37 tons.
But for the most part,
he's getting these young dudes really believing.
He has power really believing,
oh, you can do this shit. And I think that's... But for the most part he's getting these young dudes really believe and he has power really believing
Now you can do this shit And I think that's he should get he should get credit for because they could easily be chewing
What's what's up? We know they tune that what's the what's the Bucks record?
They could easily be at the bottom bottom but they're not so hard an average of 21
Nine assists eight rebounds
so far this season.
But let's talk a little bit
more about the beard.
James Harden reached
another milestone
in his Hall of Fame career
during the Clippers' win
over the Jazz on Sunday,
surpassing Ray Allen
for second all-time
in career threes.
Harden was tied with Allen
entering the game,
knocked down this three
in the first quarter
to give him sole possession
of second place.
That's my dog. Harden has now made 2,977 threes in his career
while shooting 36% from deep,
which trails only Steph's 3,788 career threes
and counting, obviously.
He's going to clip the 4K mark.
I can play some thousand behind. It's crazy.
Steph may fuck around and get to 5K. We'll see.
Hell no.
Harden also recently became the...
5,000?
Mm-hmm.
That's 1,500?
How many threes you got?
Steph has close to 3,800 right now.
3,788.
Harden has 2,977.
You got to play five more years to get that.
You going to play five more years?
These fools got more threes than a half a season,
and I got games my whole life.
But you see, I started James as a transfer at first.
That was beyond your control. All right. I started James as a transfer at first. That was beyond your
control.
I will say this about James, though.
I think one of the biggest things for his
career is this year he's able to keep
them up afloat. Instead of just trying
to average 30, he's actually trying to
bring the young boys along and motivate them to
play hard and be better. I think that's
going to be the change. I mean, he's been in
the league for a long time, so we know. He's trying
to win now, too. And for me,
I think at this point, I don't think James
can average 30.
Too many strip club nights,
man, and took his body. Did he take his toe?
Took his toe on you when you partied
and go out. Yeah, that shit do take a toe on you.
It do? Too many private rooms,
but the way he's doing it now, he could do this
for a while.
So let's talk a little more Harden.
Harden also recently became the fourth guard in NBA history
to reach 26,000 points, joining Kobe, MJ, and Oscar Robertson.
In his career, Harden is an MVP, seven-time All-NBA selection,
including six first teams, three-time scoring champ,
two-time assist champ, sixth man of the year,
and member of the 75th anniversary team.
And earlier in the show, we talked about you asked Wood as he won.
Let me give you an impressive stat, though.
Harden has never missed the playoffs in his entire career.
I know that.
Oh, he's never...
He's never missed the playoffs.
So, in the 15th season, this is his 16th,
they've made the playoffs every single season.
I mean, he got all them ass-whoopings.
Yeah.
18 years, 16 years, ass-whoopings, eh?
All them ass-whoopings. used to get playoff checks, right? I was just about to say that.
He used to get playoff checks.
Does Harden deserve more credit for what he's been able to accomplish in his career?
It's only what, one deep round?
One Western Conference final?
I went to the finals with that Thunder Squad way back then.
That was okay.
I'm just...
When Skippy was a fucking puppy.
But hey.
Instrumental.
The fuck?
You kidding me?
He was six-man that year, wasn't he?
I think.
He didn't win the six-man.
Yeah, he was six-man that year.
They went to the finals.
Oh, yeah, went to the finals.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, I was young, but...
I don't want to diminish what he has accomplished with his career.
I ain't talking about that.
But I'm just, what I was speaking on, just the habits that come with that.
That's all I was speaking on.
The shake club?
Yeah, what he do on the floor.
He's always showed up and did his job.
So it's just, we've always heard that he worked hard.
He's always put the time in.
So him be second all the time in threes it is but
Y'all knew he had never missed the playoffs by watching us basketball and heard that stat a lot. So which is impressive
In itself for me. I think Jane just ran into too many good teams in the playoffs to man while not having a good team
Yeah, well, I'm not having a good team. Yeah, while not having a good team.
You put so much, like, expectations on him,
but you playing against, you went up against the Warriors
with two times, you went up against the Spurs.
It's tough, man.
Really, too.
You get them first, second round.
They shit down their leg at home, so.
Yeah, that 2014-15?
Yeah, when they missed 27 straight threes.
Oh, yeah, that was crazy.
At the same time...
Heartbreaking for Warriors haters.
Far and near.
At the same time, what part was hurt?
They took y'all to game seven?
Yeah, it was game seven. Chris Paul got...
C.P. got hurt.
They were up 3-2, right?
But y'all did all that shit to get...
I mean, they did all that shit to get home court,
to get y'all on their home floor,
and to miss 27 fucking straight threes.
Mm.
Yeah. Nasty.
Yeah, we was nervous, too. Ain't gonna lie.
Y'all should've been. Yeah, they was...
Wait, wait, hold on.
Y'all went to seven games with P.J. Tucker,
Trevor Reza...
That's what I'm saying.
Gordon... Chris Paul. Chris Paul was there.
And Capella. Chris Paul Chris Paul was there And Capella
Chris Paul
I heard
After the
Fourth game
Game five
He only missed one game
Hold on
Chris Paul missed one game
Okay cool
Let me try this again
Chris Paul
They was number one
The whole
Cool cool cool
Let me try this again
Like
I just remember
James Harden
Took
What team was this
To the championship
I mean took him
To the Western Conference Finals?
To lose to Kevin Durant and him, right?
He took them there with this team.
What team?
P.J. Tucker, Trevor Reza, Eric Gordon, Eric Gordon, NBA champion Trevor Reza.
NBA champion, fucking...
Who won the championship?
All defense team, Trevor Reza. Trevor Reza. 6'9", wing. Yeah, he's a NBA champion Trevor reason happy fucking oh Ryan Anderson was shooting that thing. Eric Gordon was one of us. Ryan Anderson was shooting that thing that year.
I swear to God.
Let me try this again.
On the other side, they had...
Hey, Chris Paul.
You didn't put Chris Paul in.
Okay, Steph Curry, Hall of Famer.
You didn't put Chris Paul.
Kevin Durant, Hall of Famer.
Draymond Green, Hall of Famer.
The real Clay, Hall of Famer.
So that's four Hall of Famers in a starting lineup.
And let me try to...
P.J. Tucker was in all area.
Trevor Reza was in all area.
You keep shooting on these corners.
Eric Gordon wasn't even all Houston.
You can't do that, bro.
And Capella,
there's nobody on the team
that was all practice squad.
Gil, you lost to a fucking...
You're not gonna...
No, you gotta give this man credit
for taking y'all to game seven. Gil, you lost to a fucking... You gotta give this man credit for taking y'all to game seven.
Gil, you...
You can't put them guys down like they was shit.
They were shit!
You can't put Eric Gordon down...
They were shit!
All right.
No Trevor Reed?
All right.
Compared to who they're playing against?
Are you kidding me?
What's their job?
What's Trevor's job?
The Lakers not winning the championship
without him like that. I'm not talking, I'm talking about
this motherfucking team. It's still
Trevor. I'm talking about this team. It's the same team.
I got Kevin Durant and
Trevor Ariza. Are we gonna pretend
that this is not Kevin Durant?
Okay. You got motherfuckers.
Do the next matchup. You got goddamn
Drew Holiday and Dan Madden.
No, niggas, stay on this team.
Stay on this team.
We stay on this team.
You got Dan Wright and Kyrie.
I want to stay right here.
We do not want to move to another.
Stay right here.
I got Kevin Durant, Trevor Reza.
Next group.
Yeah, you can make the hands a little closer.
We got Curry.
Curry and who?
One with a check.
Curry, then who?
Curry and who?
Curry, then who? Chris Paul. No, he wasn't playing. Curry, then who? Chris Paul didn't play. Curry, then who? One with a chair. Curry, then who? Curry and who? Curry, then who?
Chris Paul.
No, he wasn't playing.
Curry, then who?
Chris Paul didn't play.
Curry, then who?
Chris Paul played.
Who?
Okay.
Oh, so he's that far down?
Chris Paul that far down.
Okay.
I'll put him up a little bit.
Come on.
That game, I think.
Chris Paul did the shimmy on stuff.
I'll put him right here.
Chris Paul did the shimmy and shit on stuff.
I'll put him right here.
That motherfucker Chris Paul was hooping that game.
I don't know what the fuck he's talking about. Draymond Green in. Who the fuck was he guarding? Boy, he better stop playing. Chris Paul put him I put him
On green
Who wasn't back the pointer on it?
Gordon
Huh
James Harden air Gordon James Gordon head get to come on. What are you talking about? Eric Gordon! Oh, who?
Oh, because Wilson McColl was out, so...
Yeah, so Eric Gordon. Uh-huh.
Who's the play matchup with?
He missed game seven.
Who is...
What was the score of that game seven?
What was the score of the game seven?
What was the score of the game seven?
Was it a blowout? Was that a of that. Was it a blowout?
Was that a blowout?
No, it was not a blowout.
Was it a blowout?
Not blowing nobody out
in a game seven.
How are you not blowing
the high school roster out?
101 to 92 was the game.
101 to what?
I'm being disrespectful
to the lineup.
Yes!
101 to 92.
You're saying everybody
that's not an All-Star
is adding to the game.
I'm being disrespectful
to the lineup y'all have.
No, you're saying they ads are not a game.
You can't say Trevor's ad because he's not an All-Star.
Compared to the team y'all are playing, you got four Hall of Famers.
Well, you lost to fucking Boobie.
You lost to Boobie and LeBron.
LeBron.
It was LeBron.
LeBron.
All-Star.
We lost to LeBron.
All-Star.
LeBron Butler.
We lost to LeBron James. One person and Boobie Gibson. LeB Brown Butler. All-star, Antoine Jameson.
One person and Boobie Gibson.
LeBron James.
Boobie Gibson and LeBron.
When everybody lost to Michael Jordan, it was fine.
No one say the Bulls.
Everybody said, we lost to Jordan.
Nobody lost to just Michael Jordan.
What do they say?
That's right.
Utah Jazz, ask what's there.
Who did we lose to?
Michael Jordan.
Nobody says the Bulls.
One person, Michael? Michael Jordan. Nobody says the Bulls. One person.
Michael goddamn Jeffrey Jordan.
We lost to goddamn LeBron.
Hell yeah.
You see what he did.
Okay.
Better than all three of you.
You see what he did?
That team's roster.
That team that went to the finals.
What he did with that roster.
He gets credit for it.
Why James Harden not getting credit for this roster?
Because that roster is not the same.
You can't put Boobie and fucking Trevor Ariza on the same pedestal.
And Eric Gordon.
Boobie Gibson didn't start.
Yes, he did.
Boobie Gibson didn't start.
He did.
It was on his door.
Boobie Gibson didn't fucking.
He didn't start.
Yes, it was.
You got killed by Boobie Gibson.
Fuck.
And his best friend nigga brought his homie on.
What's the nigga?
There's four Hall of Famers on this side.
No.
Four.
It don't matter.
We got four Hall of Famers on this side. Four. It don't matter. We got four Hall of Famers.
We see what those four Hall of Famers did to LeBron James by himself.
They whooped his ass.
Why isn't James Harden getting credit for taking these four to the bricks?
They got two.
They went to the championship and mollywhopped the king.
They went to the Chris Paul.
Mollywhopped.
They mollywhopped. They were acting went to the Chris Paul. Molly whopped. They molly whopped.
They were acting like it was just James Harden.
It was.
Chris Paul is now the motherfucking top five best point guards ever.
Is he?
Then you still got two more Hall of Famers.
That's how good your team was, sir.
You got two more Hall of Famers.
God damn, you can't do that.
You came off the picture.
You was better than damn near 95% of that Houston team.
You got...
But their team was set up for that.
Trash.
You set the team up to play who you want to play.
That's how good James Harden was.
So everybody has got a star of that.
So you don't want James Harden to get more credit?
No, but I'm just saying,
he can't shit on Trevor and fucking...
I'm not shitting on Trevor.
Or you said they ain't shit.
Compare to their match-up.
Just because they're not a Hall of Famer, they're shit.
Compare to the match-up.
We're talking about the match-up itself.
In the match-up, Eric Gordon and fucking Clay Thompson?
If you put them on the street, who gonna win?
One-on-one.
Who will win?
One-on-one.
Who gonna win? You acting like they, they're recording
his ass. You roll the ball up and fucking it right now on the court gonna win. Eric
Gordon and Clay Thompson. I'm going to be a tough, it'd be a motherfucking tough matchup.
I've been playing with him since the fifth grade. That's what I'm saying. He like that.
Mm. Ah, damn. Just cause your're a motherfucker, Hall of Fame, just...
Derrick Gordon averaged about
27 points a game still.
Shit. Not now, but... He averaged five.
...for a year. For his career, he averages...
Fifteen. No.
Look it up. How much Derrick Gordon averaged for...
Motherfucker, I'm sitting here on my phone
like this, goddammit, which means if you
just asked me 20 and I said
five, goddammit... I asked you a question.
I'm looking right at the motherfucking thing.
All right, who you gonna take in one-on-one?
Who you gonna take in one-on-one, Eric Gore and Clay Thompson?
They play one-on-one.
Eric Gore in every 16.
Round up, Gil.
Round up.
How much Clay had, Eric? About 20.
Who? Clay.
His career? About 20. 16, that's pretty decent. 16 is good. How much clay I ever about 20 who clay his career about 20
16 is good in a man just got called washed up for averaging 18. That's how good he was
He just got what called wash clay average 18 last year and he's considered Wash. And you're talking about
one average of 18
is great.
His average is going down. He's older.
He averaged 16 last year, but Phoenix
bring it down. He probably averaged more than that before
Phoenix in the last couple teams they've been on.
God damn. 18 was his
best year. No, it wasn't. He averaged
fucking 25 with the Clippers and some shit.
What are you talking about?
Like 22 or something like that.
Yeah, just something like that. Shit. 24 something.
Oh, he did average 23? 22?
He averaged 22 with the Clippers.
Thank you, bud. You act like the nigga ass.
And they playing with Dan Tony when they started this fucking shoot 100 shots.
Yeah.
Shit. So, James Harden. Tony when they started this fucking suit a hundred shots Shit so
James are the point James are you good flowers for taking that motherfucking roster? He do
Deserve it. Yeah, go ahead give ain't sitting. Compare it to who you're playing, dog.
It's to compare to who you're playing.
That's what I'm saying.
Compare the lineups to each other.
That's what this is.
Not saying Trevor reads his trash.
Compare to who he's playing.
This was a lopsided thing, and this group took y'all to seven games.
Lopsided.
Fair.
If I had the green light playing against you, and you got all these accolades, I'm a bus show ass
It don't matter who what happens. I'm a bus show ass. You have the green light
And I got the green light to shoot every shot. Yeah, I'm a bus show
It don't matter if you got the green light like I will bust like we know what we know what a lopsided looks like
When the Lakers played Philadelphia,
we know what that was going to look like.
We know what that matchup was.
Because the lineup said so.
You can't do that. If I'm number one
all year round, you can't say
it's lopsided. If I'm number one
in the whole NBA with the same team,
how is it lopsided?
If we coming in today home court,
they got home court advantage. How is it lopsided? It's becoming their home court. They got home court advantage. How's it
lopsided? Okay, so if
Denver... If they beat us all four games
during the fucking regular season, how's it lopsided?
That's a motherfucking problem for y'all.
That's a motherfucking problem for y'all.
That's what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is, god damn it,
you lost to them four times.
I'm not shitting on Trevor.
That's a problem.
Like Miami being in the championship,
if they would have took Denver to the
seven games, goddammit, that should have been a problem.
So that's why
that's why
once the name got credit
for taking that team to the championship,
we looked at that roster
and said, goddammit, how are they here?
He must be having a well
I'm giving James he deserves credit you shit. I'm making this credit. You know everybody else give him his credit
Oh, I gave him his give his credit
All right
Let me get his credit. Let me jump in here. So we asked the chat
Which side are you on gill or swaggy?
Nobody rolling with this triad.
50-50 split. It is deadlocked right now.
That shit says 90, what, 90 what?
What?
50-50.
90 what?
And as the VP of Gil's arena, I have the deciding vote.
Okay.
This ain't an obstacle.
Are you trying to make it seem like I'm trying to hate?
Yes.
No, you hate.
I'm defending them corners. I'm defending of hate. Yes. No, you hate. I'm not defending them corners.
I'm defending my people.
You start shitting them motherfuckers like they was trash.
Compare, when I say it's compared to that person.
No, you can't.
Compared to the person they're playing against.
Right?
If he averages 11 and another person averages 30, what does that consider?
Okay. How much did Eric what does that consider? Okay.
How much did Eric Gordon average that year?
Pull it up for you now.
16.
Why, a nigga was averaging 40?
Another 100 for the group.
What?
If I average 40, James averages 40.
He averaged 18 that season.
What season is this?
17, 18. It's 18. What are you talking about? Come on, man. 17 averaged 18 that season. Okay. What season is this? 17, 18.
It's 18.
What are you talking about?
Come on, man.
17, 18.
Okay, so Trevor Reese.
Greg, you're former AAU.
You're learning.
Eric Gordon.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, yeah.
He was a six-man too, right?
He was always playing up.
No, he started.
I don't know what I'm talking about.
Oh, man.
He started 30 games when CB was.
He played 70 games, so.
Okay. Started 30.
Can y'all dap up or something?
Nah, fuck it.
Who is he guarding?
Who is he guarding?
Who do you think he is guarding, motherfucker?
Who is he guarding?
Who?
Nick, you were in the game.
You hit a decisive three to help put the Warriors over the top.
Who is there going?
I think it's Clay.
I think Clay.
Because, yeah, I think it's going to Clay.
No, no, it's probably going to Clay. I think Clay. I think Clay.
Yeah, I think it was Gordon Clay. No, no.
To summarize, James Harden
deserves more flowers? Is that
the conclusion?
Does James Harden deserve more credit?
Yeah.
Seems like he's always...
Rockets, James Harden. That man was amazing.
Amazing. He should have had two MVPs.
That was to give him his credit. Okay, cool. Audubon Middle School Rockets James Harden. That man was amazing. Amazing. He should have had two MVPs. Mm-hmm
That was give me credit, okay cool Audubon Middle School alum
Is either third
Shooting guard to save you from getting third best shooting ever you guys see Trevor
You keep saying I'm saying Trevor's true. I'm saying compared to who he's playing. You said he was... That's a different wording.
Are you slow?
I'm just rewinding.
Are you slow compared to who he's playing against?
You said shit.
Compared to who he's playing against?
On paper.
Tiptoe back.
No, you don't listen to what people are saying. To who he's compared against.
Compared to who he's against.
You said shit.
I'm going to need both of y'all to take a deep breath.
Damn it.
There's a lot of energy over here.
He is shit compared to who he has to guard.
Lopsided.
Let's take a little breather here.
And while we take a little breather,
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I'm cool for this.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I do my job. Some people in the chat have a problem special ticket. I'm cool for this. Thank you. Thank you. I do my job.
Some people in the chat have a problem with it.
Direct deposit is my response.
He be having these weird stances that just...
You having a...
Why am I stancing weird?
A sorry-ass and B stance that's just weird.
Uh-oh, uh-oh.
We have an update to the poll.
Gil is now at 51%.
But he's at 49%.
Okay, okay, Gil.
I'll let you win. So we talked okay, Gil. I'll let you win.
So we talked about Harden.
We talked about Harden.
Greg, we have you here, so we'd be remiss to not talk about
two other amazing two guards that you got to play with.
First, let's start in Miami.
You played with an all-time great two guard in Dwayne Wade.
What kind of work did you see him putting in off the court
to stay at the high level that he played at for such a long time?
I mean, it was just so natural for them.
After every practice, shirts off, the next 45 minutes, we're getting shots up.
Beasley, bring your ass.
Brian, bring your ass.
Ray, bring your ass.
We shooting after every practice.
Those guys barely took days off.
You know, it was just natural with it.
You know, they was leaders.
They was very professional.
And it was just high-quality organization down there in Miami.
And, you know
just watching those as a younger guy me just trying not to mess up the ship I was just enjoying
everything you know and then now let's shift over to Portland obviously you came in joined
LaMarcus Aldridge Brandon Roy Brandon Roy one of my favorite players all the time the natural
Washington yeah the nickname was the natural. Unfortunately, you guys both
suffered devastating injuries in your career, but I remember watching an interview with Brandon. He
talked about when they drafted you, he thought the Blazers were going to win a bunch of championships.
So did I. Yeah, me. Looking at that squad. Yes, sir. You know it. But Brandon Roy,
a guy you got to spend some time with during your time in Portland. Don't start. What do you remember about B. Roy and just how incredible of a player was he for everybody?
You got a lot of people nowadays who don't remember that period in NBA history
and how great of a player he was.
Man, he just, that nickname, it was just him because he was just so smooth.
You know, he always come up, what up, Greg Oden, you know, Seattle.
They just getting buckets over there.
Like, you know know it never looked
hard for him he was never sped up like he was one of those guys that gave kobe problems and kobe said
that you know um it's just unfortunate but when we did play together all three of us i think our
record is like 52 and 10. over a span of a year and a half you know um i'm just so happy i got
to play with him because everything was just so smooth for him man half, you know? Damn. I'm just so happy I got to play with them,
because everything was just so smooth for them, man.
And as you know, and as you all know,
them Seattles, they get buckets over there.
And you know where they from, too.
A lot of them transplanted from LA back in the 80s.
Nigga, I know you remember.
It was a huge thing.
There was a migration to Seattle.
For real?
Yeah. The truth. Why? Like migration to Seattle. For real? Yeah.
The truth.
Why?
Like how everybody's going to Palmdale now.
It was a similar Palmdale.
It was a period back in the 80s that everybody dipped to Palmdale.
That was supposed to be the new L.A.,
a little too far for our liking.
So Seattle Ballers is technically L.A. Ballers?
Not all.
Not all.
So y'all just going to claim the whole West Coast, right?
No, but there was a migration. Bowling. Not all. Not all. So y'all just going to claim the whole West Coast, right? Not all.
But there was a migration.
Everybody was going to Seattle.
Like some birds, huh?
Just migrating.
They were just going to migrate to Seattle.
Heavy, heavy L.A. influence.
80s?
What?
When was this?
80s, 90s.
Jamal Crawford, Dorsey High School.
Dorsey.
Dorkey had some know.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
But he moved back and forth.
But nonetheless, brought what he learned in L.A. Is he considered an L.A. dude? Nah. I didn't know that. But he moved back and forth. But nonetheless, brought what he learned in L.A.
Is he considered an L.A. dude?
Nah, he claims to be L.A.
He don't claim us like that, unfortunately.
He wants to see L.A. for sure.
So, Greg, let's talk a little bit about yourself.
We talk about the injury issues.
Obviously came in as the number one overall pick.
They played 105 career games.
Obviously, unfortunate.
Multiple microfracture surgeries,
which at that point, one, was devastating
to a lot of players' careers.
Yeah.
But what do you feel like is the biggest misconception
people have about you and your game on the court?
You know, they like to throw out a bunch of words,
but I do know for a fact that when I played,
I was dominant.
You know, it was a time where I wish I could have stayed healthy in my athleticism, being able to run, being able to be strong, being able to guard the likes of Shaq and Yao, you
know, was a plus for me.
And I felt like I was almost there.
I just couldn't stay healthy, man.
I still remember when my kneecap broke in half and I jumped up.
I looked at Aaron Brooks
like, nigga, you kicked me?
Like, I thought he kicked me.
That shit literally
just broke in half
from how I jumped.
But, you know,
I really do think I was,
you know, that type of player
that made up for so much.
As a big,
you're not really looked at
as an other,
but I think I was.
I did so much
of the little things, blocking shots, the rebounds,
not needing the ball.
I'm going to go ahead and set a pick for three different people in the same play.
But, you know, I'm going to get that offensive rebound if I need to, you know.
So I think I dominated in that aspect when I did play.
And, you know, I like to look at that a little bit differently.
Went to the finals in college as a rookie.
I mean, a freshman. Freshman. Made it to the finals in college as a rookie. I mean a freshman.
Freshman.
Yeah.
Made it to the finals, Miami.
I swear, I went there.
I signed, I want to get my ring finger right here.
Right there.
Right there.
I was so ready for that shit, but them Spurs had other things.
We was going through one of the shoot-arounds for the finals, and I was on the scout team,
and I had 20.
And the 30-minute shoot- 30 minutes it was like yeah we
ready I was like no we're not I'm ready I don't know about you so we talked earlier about him
Embiid Embiid had said previously in the sixer that uh he's not gonna play back-to-backs uh you
know guys like Kawhi still injured and then things like that but what are your thoughts
on low management?
And is it a good or bad thing for the league?
I mean, it's going to be good for that individual player,
just being able to preserve his body, whoever's body.
But when you get to the point where you're just letting it be known before the season starts
or you're just never playing, but you're like, I'm a load manager,
but I'm going to take three weeks off and nobody knows why.
You know, that's when it kind of gets muddy
and people are starting to question what's really going on.
But honestly, you know, as a player, you guys,
if you had the opportunity to be like,
oh, shoot, I know I'm playing this game.
I'm not playing this first or this back-to-back.
You would take that opportunity if you had the chance
to preserve everything you got,
especially when you're dealing with injuries and stuff like that.
Well, you're part of the micro-faction. You're part of the micro-f everything you got, especially when you're dealing with injuries and stuff like that. Well, you part of the micro fracture.
You part of the micro fracture.
Yes, sir.
No, he's not.
He is beyond anything we've ever experienced.
He's a board member.
Oh, you're the board member.
Hey, before my first season started, micro fracture.
Done for the year.
Played a year and a half.
Broken kneecap.
Coming back from that
Microfracture and rehab her from that for eight months
Microfracture. Oh man one more year fifth year
Microfracture. Yeah, we just gonna go ahead and go another way. We're gonna go ahead release you after five years three in a row
I laughed at the third one when a doctor came in
Said yeah, you got some missing cartilage.
I said, fuck out of here.
I ain't even got no cartilage.
I can't have no cartilage.
You've been poking holes in my shit for a long time.
Yeah, bro, like that.
No, he is.
Damn, man.
Yesterday, we talked a little bit.
He was doing it from the beginning then.
Without even knowing.
That's tough.
Yes, sir.
How hard for you is it?
Yesterday we talked about the whole bus convo.
You had said previously that people were going to look at you as a bus.
But we've talked about this on this couch.
There's a difference between being a bus, right, when you had the opportunity to play,
you just didn't deliver, versus yourself who came out and when you could play.
But nobody's specking broken patella, four microfracture surgeries.
I think nowadays people go back and they'll check
basketball reference, look at the stats and try to come to some conclusion about
it, not realizing how desperately you wanted to be on the court, how much you
put in and then missing that close to four-year chunk and still being able to
come back and play with the heat and preserve your career. I think a lot of
guys would have tapped out. Yeah, I mean, you know, that buzzword comes out a lot.
But also, when you got go down top five, greatest player ever,
drafted right after me, you know,
that was back when I was trying to own the narrative and be a part of the joke.
Like, fuck it.
I mean, whatever he's doing, of course I'm going to be a buzz compared to that shit.
But, you know, I know what I am.
I know what I could do out there.
And a lot of basketball heads
know that as well. So we're going to change that
narrative and say when I was out there,
I was able to dominate and contribute
to a team. As he said, go to
the national championship as a freshman
playing against, what, six
NBA players. We got Al Horford,
Joe Kim, Corey Brewer,
Torian Green, Chris Richards coming
off the bench, and fucking Maurice States on the bench.
And they should have gave you the ball.
You're 10-15 in that game.
25-12 with my left hand.
Your team was 4-23 from three.
Just something like that.
With the offhand.
With the offhand.
But I...
That's hard to do, though.
Ain't that many friends?
I'm not going to lie.
I just won't...
Because there's only a certain...
It's a small number, man, on this planet...
that can say they had their name called first.
We have two of them on this couch right here.
So...
Bus?
Eh, nah.
I'm betting y'all.
See, I'm a bus. See, I'm a bus.
Right.
I'm a bus.
There's only one bus I know, and it's in his name.
Kwame Brown Bus Life.
Yeah, we were not going there.
You know what I'm saying?
Let it go.
Shit.
He's the gold of bucks.
Can y'all tap, bud?
He packed out.
He's talking.
I need y'all to have a red table talk.
Red table talk.
Please.
He ain't going to see this.
He drunk.
Gil, Doc, you want me?
He probably drunk.
Darviham, red table.
Please.
Hey, we can act like visionaries.
We get Darviham on the table talk
so he can be the mediator.
Ripping Bible in half with his bare hands.
Oh, shit.
No, but...
Throw Nick on there.
First year, a little bit, but no, no.
Y'all need a red table with you.
Get it all out.
I'm just going by the...
Yomelos.
He got the name, so I just...
It was just a good segue
You ain't no buzz man had nothing to do it
Like I know it's like just just just to keep it a book back then
the back then there was no
They wasn't ready for players.
There was no structure for development.
It wasn't a thing.
They just expected you to already know how to play, be good.
There was no, like, our player coaches were literally player coaches like you played and you coaching you only coming with us to the club you're
not really actually sitting there a rebound and putting us through drills
you can do none of that shit you was done with your basketball career and you
was just basically a coach and then you talk to us on the bench there was no
actual developing player so a lot of young players that came in,
if you wasn't getting playing time,
you was, them, they're going to be a bust
because nobody was working on your skill level.
So when you did get the time,
you knew how to play.
From there, you're just,
just sitting on the bench, just.
Yeah.
But a number one pick,
that's hard to,
ain't too many number one picks sitting on the bench, really.
Depends on what team you are.
But also what you said...
If you're not injured.
Like, they're coming from high school, though.
That's like coming from high school,
playing against a 6'5 center like four months ago,
and now you're going up against all these big dogs.
Like, you've got to develop that person.
It should be two or three years. I think
Peyton Manning said something like that. It's being
quarterback, being there in college
for four years and then coming back and sitting behind
somebody for a year or two. But we're
expecting all these quarterbacks to come out
after being in three years and then we're
coming out first date and they're supposed to be God
for the city. They don't even know nothing yet.
Man. Got to take that time and develop
these players and invest in them. And I don't even know nothing yet. Man. Gotta take that time and develop these players and invest in them.
And I don't think we give people
enough time to even...
Like the media.
The last one was the dude from Cleveland.
I think after like
ten games...
I don't know nothing about Anthony.
What was his name?
No. The Cavalier.
Anthony Bennett. He didn't even supposed to be the numberalier. No, the Chief of Cavaliers, Anthony Bennett.
Anthony Bennett.
People said he didn't even supposed to be the number one pick.
That was a mind-boggling pick.
I mean, I think he averaged like 17 and 16 that year in college.
That was just a surprise.
Who was number two?
Him, Ola Candy.
But.
I'm just saying as far as number one pick.
He just started playing basketball like a few years before that.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So it was unexpected for them guys to be number one.
Who was the second pick after him?
Oladipo to the Magic, Otto Porter Jr.
See that injury?
Cody Zeller.
Wait, what?
No, he wasn't hurt yet.
Wait, wait, what?
I'm reading that draft, that draft.
Oh, oh, I thought you were just like, okay.
Yeah, Bennett's year, Bennett went first, Oladipo went second, Otto Porter Jr. third,
Zeller, Alex Lynn, Nerlings Noel, Ben McLabour, KCP went eighth, Oladipo went second, Otto Porter Jr. third, Zeller, Alex Lynn,
Nerlings Noel, Ben McLemore, KCP went eighth,
Trey Burke ninth, CJ McCollum went tenth of the Blazers,
Micah Carter Williams, 11th, Stephen Adams, Kelly O'Leary.
We got it, we got it, we got it.
W was 11th.
We got it, brother. It was one of these.
15th pick, though.
That was a weird draft.
Giannis Antetokounmpo. Really? At that point. That was a weird draft. Giannis and an Akumpo.
Really?
But at that point, we fixed it.
He wasn't Giannis yet.
He was not Giannis yet.
The Nassus was still here.
But 15th pick?
Did y'all hear about JFT?
I didn't know that.
Did you hear JFT with Giannis' story?
Which one?
Where they said Atlanta Hawks secretly had Giannis hiding in somebody's basement in Atlanta,
and they were trying to figure out, because they didn't think nobody knew about Him so they were basically trying to figure out
Yeah, they said he was working out hiding into somebody's basement so nobody can see who he was
And how he got the Milwaukee is
One of the I don't know if he was on the coaching staff or management
who was in Atlanta got fired.
Damn.
Went to Milwaukee.
They got a motherfucking high.
We're going to go to the base.
So he's really high.
So he's there to pick before Atlanta.
Damn.
That's crazy.
That can't be.
I listen to what he was like.
Yeah, we know about motherfucker in the basement.
He said, hey, everybody like, yeah, we're about to get this young kid out of Greece.
He's sitting in the basement down there.
That can't be legal, bro.
You can't have no foreigner hiding in the basement.
They call him out.
Who the fuck is that?
He got to come out at nighttime and shit.
That sounds like some screenshot shit.
Got a foreigner in the basement that can't come out.
Swear to God.
No, no, no.
That's illegal.
Bring your fool at the door.
You can't do this.
Midnight workouts.
They say they waiting for that 15 feet.
Milwaukee.
They call his name every night.
Who the fuck is that?
Who the fuck is that?
They're going to see him
and just walk on the street.
Oh, there he goes.
There he goes.
He's in the basement, Nick.
He can't get out.
That's what...
He hide him like
he was going to see him
or some shit.
You know how mad you got to be?
You've been holding him hostage
for a year
and then you fire somebody they go there
That's fightful
Really must be high on this kid. Oh, he had in the basement over there. It was a okay
You know that no it was like somebody like inside the organization's house
Yeah, it was some real shit like he's hiding in somebody's house. Mm-hmm. So somebody, yeah. It was some real shit.
Like he's hiding in somebody's basement in Atlanta Hawks' house.
So they gave him the...
So blindside, man.
It's like they was going to...
Yeah, they was like, yeah, we got...
Yeah, I can't even picture him in Atlanta.
To be honest.
Who was on that team?
Was Joe still on that team?
Yeah, they had a guy right there.
Yeah, it was like...
He went to the right where he needed to be.
I don't know if it was Joe.
No, I don't know if it was Joe.
If Joe was on that team.
Still 2000...
Ooh, no, no, no, no, no.
That was 13, right? Yeah, 2013. Was Joe still... Nah, I don't think so. was Joe. Milwaukee. Joe was on that team. Still 2000. Oh, no, no, no, no.
I was 13, right?
Yeah, 2013.
Was Joe still?
Nah, I don't think so.
13, 14 Hawks.
Let me pull it up.
Now it's 2013.
13, 14 Hawks.
That was the year I got to college.
I'm pulling it up.
Your wife ought to be bullshitting.
Hold on.
Hey, can I have a hug?
Where is he at?
Can I have a hug?
Bennett.
Hey, give me a hug, brother.
I'm not gonna give you a hug.
I'm not gonna give you a hug.
I'm not gonna give you a hug. I'm not gonna give you a hug. I'm not gonna give you a hug. I'm not gonna give you a hug. I'm pushing hold on
Where's yet?
Give me a brother come on man. I do dirty. I'll play my big bro. Oh man. How many years oh?
Y'all friends again. I gotta stop all right. I really don't like each other. I don't like
I get out I don't like them sometimes. Sometimes I don't like them, I'll put it. Hug it out. Adorable.
Let me see who was on that.
Yeah, how many years did he play?
Elder Brown, Al Horford, Korver, Millsap, Schroeder, Jeff Teague, Lou Williams.
Oh, that was them.
That's a team that went all All-Stars with him.
Yeah.
Damn.
No, that team was nasty.
They were 38 and 44.
Oh.
So precursor to the All-Star squad.
But let's move on to Mostly Fans.
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Dang, yeah.
Now, that was a team after.
Nah, so Atlanta had back-to-back picks.
Yeah, right after that.
And I think they traded with the... They said he was trading to get up, and he had the back-to-back picks. Yeah, right after that. And I think they traded with the...
They said he was trading to get up,
and he had the back-to-back.
So they had 16.
17 and 18.
Damn.
I think they traded one of those.
They got the 16 picks.
Trying to be some finagling, some sneakiness.
Damn.
So first question, email question from underdog user Foo22.
If you could switch bodies with any NBA
player of all time who would that player be and how would your personality affect
that player this is this is some complicated you can switch bodies with
any NBA player of all time who would that player be and how would your
personality affect that player well I'm going LeBron since we already look like
I just need knees so so I'm good.
And I ain't had abs since high school,
so I'll take that, too.
Have you ever seen anybody make the joke
that you were LeBron's pops?
And if so, when you saw it, how did you feel about it?
Well, when I first got to Miami, day one...
I'm joking. I'm just gonna throw it out there.
Just, you know what I mean?
For real. Nobody's ever seen LeBron's daddy, right?
Like, no, but for real, though. How old are you?
Nah, like, when I got there day one,
Bron was like, look, we do not look like each other.
If you say it, we could both slap the shit out you.
So we good.
But then I was walking in the mall one day,
and it was like a picture of him,
and I was like, shit, when I do that?
Oh, damn, that's crazy.
We resemble.
But for one, I got a lot of hair We resemble. I didn't know LeBron was that good.
But, for one, I got a lot of hair right now.
So you got your hair intact.
And I do regular shit.
Like, I'll be walking down the street.
Maybe like LeBron, I'll be like,
you know damn well LeBron ain't walking down this goddamn street.
And he playing right there on this TV.
Like, get the fuck out of my face.
People are very simple-minded, Greg, as we have learned these past few weeks.
Nick, if you could switch bodies with any
NBA player of all time, who would that player be?
And how would your personality affect that player?
Uh...
Shit.
Probably Gil.
You would switch bodies with Gil.
How would your personality affect
being... How would my personality My personality wouldn't change.
I'd just be a...
You just want the holes that I had. That's it.
Get that out your mouth, mother.
Oh, God.
Why do I want that?
That's all you want, brother.
Get the taste out your mouth, okay?
Be somebody that was good, dog.
Huh?
Be Shaq or somebody.
Be Cole or somebody. I want to be you.
Nah, nah, I'm you.
Motherfucker, I'm you.
That's admiration.
I'll give you that one.
Swag you to the ring.
That's what you wanted, right?
You wanted this.
That's what you wanted, right?
You got it.
Oh, jab, knee.
Oh, perfect.
Took me under your wing.
That's what you wanted, right?
I'm you motherfucker
Who was funny they think we Larry and Chuck out this bitch
I gotta go sit. I gotta go tell my fiance something man
When I came up order was was glistening all over your body.
Moving on to this side.
You can switch bodies with any WNBA player.
Who would it be and how would your personality affect that player?
Y'all are too much, man.
We're on YouTube.
We're not on Tubi.
We're not on Tubi.
We're on YouTube.
He was under control when he was over there. Get him the glasses back.
Who made the decision to put them all on the same side?
That was my side.
We like chaos.
Oh, this is you?
You wanted this to be the calm side?
This is Kenya's team.
Because I got booted off my side for Nick and Rashad.
I was playing no Ben on your team today,
just because Kenya kicked me off that side.
I would want to switch with Liz or BG
just because they're super tall.
And I've always just wanted to know.
How would your personality affect that?
Um...
Stop.
Stop. We're talking about basketball, Gail.
Oh, yeah. Stop now.
We're talking about basketball.
Okay. Stop it.
That's it. I already know.'s why we don't
I want to be a foot taller just to see what that my skill set and personality on the court feels like at six eight or six nine At 6'8 or 6'9. Yeah, girl, please. I got so many jokes, and I know I can't. I know that.
I have so many jokes, I know I can't.
She caught it, though. She had to say it.
So you want to be me.
So you want to be me.
She said yes.
You can't say yes.
Tall, tall, tall.
6'8, 6'9.
That's how tall she is?
Girl, you still got the thing in there.
That's how tall they are.
I'm on a couch for the children.
No.
God dang.
Hey, the international move around.
It's just three seasons.
Like, I can't even answer.
Like, why can't I want to be 6'9"?
I got something I want to say.
Gil, let's move on to yourself.
I hate all of you.
Oh, fuck, man.
You can switch bodies with any NBA player of all time.
Who would that player be?
That I wanted to be?
There's only been, like, two players that are that tall.
What the fuck?
Who would you be, and how would your personality
affect that player?
Ain't Liz my height?
Yes, they're both the same.
So you could not want to be.
That's why I said her first.
But she not playing right now. With my personality? Yes. My work ethic? Go So you can... I want to be... That's why I said her first. But she not playing right now.
With my personality?
Yes.
My work ethic?
Go ahead and say who you want to be.
Shaq.
I knew he was going to say Shaq.
Bring the bazooka.
Breaking rims.
Shaq.
Breaking what?
You want to be Shaq?
Breaking rims.
You sure you want to be Shaq?
With my work ethic?
Breaking rims.
Every game.
That's all I'm going in there.
Trying to end the game.
I'm pretty sure he tried, but he was doing it early.
He was breaking some shit.
Yeah.
That must have been very annoying.
But Gil would want to be Shaq.
He would want to be Shaq.
You said with my work ethic, though.
And personality.
I don't worry about my work ethic, though.
As long as I get to keep that part.
That is a part of your personality, the work ethic.
If that's not, then I'm going with Wimby.
Okay, fair.
Good job.
And then we got one more question.
This question for you, Greg, is from Underdog User
Zedarian. How do you think
your game would fit in today's NBA
as spacing and shooting has only continued
to grow since you retired? The same exact answer.
How do you think your game would fit in today's NBA?
I was a little bit
differently. I ran
hard and I was very powerful,
so it would have been like, no, you got to guard
me, but I didn't need the ball that much. So give me 12 to 15 points a game. I'm good with that.
I don't need to, I would probably develop like Brooke Lopez when they won the championship.
I was shot maybe two or three threes from the corner, but when I needed to go down the post,
I was going to take my ass down there in the post and get me a bucket. And I was going to get the
offensive rebound. So when you, before injuries, what was your game like
compared to anybody today?
It would be Brook Lopez
that year.
I probably was
a little bit more athletic.
And I defended
the rim a lot.
In Brooklyn?
In Brooklyn, yeah.
I would have had to develop
that three, though. That's just where the game was going.
But more dunking
shit, yeah. More dunking.
A lot of those oops, I would have liked that.
Okay.
That was good.
I had good hands, so
I could get the ball in the post, because I could
pass, and I was a willing passer.
I want to be I want to be
John Moran
Mighty oh give me give me this. Okay, it's your work ethic. Give me this give me this
I'll jump over but like I've never been that high before He's struggling with the cup. Just all of just...
That shit was good to the motherfucker.
To be on the rim and throw it in at you.
You could never do that?
God!
You never did that?
Hey, just so you know, I told this man,
that's why I started monkey dunking like that.
When Jason Kidd threw that bitch off that backboard,
he came through monkey dunking and he looked at that camera.
I was like, oh, yeah, I'm doing that every fucking time.
See, I want to... I don't know the difference.
I know y'all didn't have these problems.
Like, I had the keloid...
What is those called?
I had the callus here, right?
I didn't know nothing about this shit right here.
You know, when they got hurt.
They got hurt shit right here.
They got to put pads...
No, I was right here with the rest of the folks, right?
Grabbing on the, yeah!
Ah!
Nails hurting and sweating.
Yeah, those are my problems.
I want a Doze problem, just ah!
So what was the most like?
You just get up there and just throw it.
You don't touch the rim.
You just, yeah.
You can do it with me or not?
I can do it with me.
OK, OK.
Two foot with me.
Good timing.
OK.
This is my dunk right here.
That was mine.
Like if I'm going dunk contest and I get
to the end, ah, that was it. That was it.
The judges gave that dunk a 45. That was it, boy.
You do like to see dunked too.
But good place to stop the show, Greg. We appreciate you.
Who would you want to be?
His daddy.
Yeah, I want to be my daddy.
I'm right here, son.
He still has not hit me.
It's been weeks.
If you see Marcus Johnson in the Milwaukee area,
tell him I need some money.
But that is a good place to stop.
Greg, we got you for one more day.
Swag, we appreciate you pulling up.
Obviously, Kenya, we appreciate you pulling up.
Lexi, great to have you back on the couch.
You come away.
You're back Thursday?
Thursday.
Okay.
Me and Cheryl. In between time.
Oh, yeah, Cheryl.
Uh-uh.
The girls.
Cheryl.
But in the meantime, in between time,
appreciate everybody in the chat for pulling up
and supporting us as usual.
Gil, obviously appreciate you as always.
This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
We will see you all tomorrow.