Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To The 76ers ROCKY Preseason Start

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To The Philadelphia 76ers' Pre-Season Injuries as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew discuss Paul George going down with a hyper extended knee before his 76ers career even began and Joel Embiid announcing that he is likely done playing back to back games for the rest of his career. They debate if this is the right move for the oft-injured big man and if Embiid & Tyrese Maxey will be able to hold down the fort while PG recovers early in the season. Next, Gil & The Crew give their savage reactions to the viral exchange between Chris Miles & Sam Mitchell on NBA TV and tell stories of times where jokes turned serious during their playing days in the NBA. Finally, The Crew turns their attention to the 23rd annual NBA GM Survey where they debate if the NBA's best and brightest got it right answering questions like who's the best player by position and what team has the best starting 5 before wrapping up the show with another reaction to more injury news with Kawhi Leonard as the Los Angeles Clippers superstar is set to miss the NBA Preseason, sparking a debate on if the former Finals MVP should still be considered an elite player in the league. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, & Nick Young Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order*. https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena To get $15 off your first order and find out if Ro Sparks are right for you, go to ro.co/ARENA SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:09 Time NBA Locker Room Pranks Went TOO FAR 0:07:59 Joel Embiid Is DONE With Back To Backs 0:24:34 Embiid's Place Within the Top 10 Centers 0:53:19 Paul George's Pre-Season Injury 0:57:40 De'Aaron Fox Turns Down Extension 1:11:28 The NBA GM Survey is RIGGED 1:46:04 How Wemby Will Get Even Better This Season 1:59:53 Best Player By Position According To GM's 2:05:08 MostlyFans 2:19:43 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Visit PCFinancial.ca for details. Welcome back to Gil's Arena presenting my underdog fantasy. Whoa, whoa! Chad made some bread yesterday. Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presenting my underdog fantasy. Whoa, whoa! Whoa! Chad made some bread yesterday. We had our official N-word counter. Ooh. Y'all broke protocol. Gil, you did some investigations, and, uh...

No, no, no, no. I didn't do no investigation. The chat said, no, no, no, you're not gonna cheat us out of our money. The chat weren't there 100%. They weren't there 100%. They went there 100%. So? Kenya was actually the first one. So the person who put the law in was the first person.

Three minutes into the show. Three minutes into the show. All them pips back. Three minutes into the show. He said he needs proof, right? According to our estimations, it's $100 per N-word, about $1,500 deep right now. $1,600.

$1,600, okay. So we can't say the N-word. You can say it. It's just going to cost you $100. It's going to cost you $100 per N-word, about $1,500 deep right now. $1,600. $1,600, okay. So we can't say the N-word. You can say it. It's just going to cost you $100. It's going to cost you $100. Nah, I'm in your pockets too much. Sorry. You owe me $5,000.

I'm tired of this. That's the worst. He owes me $5,000 playing Connect 4. That's why I'm with you today. I went with Rashad today. I ain't on your team today. Like, I get why he thought he can win because we were playing in the middle of the game. I beat you the first time.

And Melly was talking to me, and I'm just going and playing. And then when I hit... When I sent, I was like, oh, my God. And he won, and then he got confident. And then he's lost 12 straight. How many games does it take to get to a $5,000 dead connection? I kept trying to double or nothing, so... Okay, okay.

I know. I'm not even talking to you today. I'm with McCants. He's 1 and 12. Damn. We're McCants together today. I'm with McCants. Since you're all together, how about this? It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday. How about this? Put that together. Get...put some lotion on your damn...

We just live right now. We just live. Like, do you not have lotion? Today is Tuesday. It's my day today. But do you not own... Don't come at me like that? Today is Tuesday. It's my day today. But do you not own it? Don't come at me like that on my show today. This is my show today. Them shits was kinda, I didn't know they was.

I didn't really know. I didn't know it was that dry. Uh oh. Uh oh. Shaking sand people. Uh oh. It's Swaggies Arena on Tuesday. My show today, baby.

Updated. On Tuesday. Swaggies, okay. How you doing, baby? Welcome to my show, y'all. Welcome to my show. Welcome to my show. Welcome to my show.

Welcome to my show. Welcome to my show. Welcome to my show. Welcome to my show. Welcome to my show. on Tuesday. I told you, baby. Updated. On Tuesday. Swag me some, okay? How you doing, baby? Welcome to my show, y'all. Now your hands moist, man. You the one, Gil. I know I need to think about it. You like me like this. Oh, man.

That's appalled. You can't come with the moist hands. No, Gilly. What were you doing? No, Gilly. You like me like this. Wow. Them clamsters.

I just keep them dry, man. But this is the thing. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie were you doing? No, Gilly. You like me like this. Wow. Them clamsters. I just keep them dry, man.

But this is Gil's arena. I'm not doing nothing to you. Don't talk to me. You on team shot today. Yeah. So you got to disagree with whatever Gil says. Whatever. That's normal anyway.

That's what you do anyway. I got to win once. I got to win. But he does ninja. Ninja. No, you good. No, you can't say it. Always got a win once. I got a win. But he does ninja. Ninja. No, you good. No, you can't see. Always find a loophole.

Ninja. No, that don't sound right. Ninja. Ninja. Ninja. Ninja will work. Ninja will work. That don't sound right.

It don't sound right. Sound not coming out your mouth. Sound. It's a sound. Ninja. Sound cool. Damn. That don't sound cool.

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Making your debut on season three. It's Tuesday. And we had some sound effect issues yesterday, Rashad. We talked to the crew. So we got Cemetery Larry. Rashad McKenzie back in the building. My dog! Everybody else got to get their sound effects in check first,

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for the rest of his career. Wow. How concerning should the Sixers be heading into the season with this news? NBA GMs voted Wimby as the player they would build their franchise around, but how much of a leap will the Spurs big man take in year two? Yes, that's one of my favorite photos of all times. And Kawhi's status entering this season is still uncertain.

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You know, we came together for a nice meal at Noble before the season began. Maybe they should have done the same thing over at NBA TV, as tension seems to be running high between host Chris Miles and analyst Sam Mitchell on Friday's Kings Warriors preseason broadcast. Miles made a joke about Mitchell's salary, and let's just say things escalated from there.

Why don't you come up off some of that money you got since you're over there bragging about it? I'm not bragging about it. Well, I mean, mean oh i'm sorry did you rent your beach house out down in ford and doing a hurricane or do i need to go on how about your townhouse over over at buckhead hey what's going on i mean come on you're the one who cried poor destitute up here when do i need to keep going on further more and more? I don't want to go to this game between the Sacramento Kings

and the Golden State Warriors. You're going to stop messing with me on national TV. I done told you about that. What happened? How'd it start? You know, they were talking about the Olympics, basically how coaches don't get medals. Oh.

Wait, they don't? They don't? They do not get medals. That's crazy. Wow. I didn't know that. They can borrow Ants or Stephs or KDs or LeBrons, but they do not get medals. So Chris Miles said that Sam Mitchell should work for free, pro bono.

He said he looked at his check and it was damn near close to that. Yeah, basically saying, man, get your weight up, man. Yeah, he did. He hit him with the big boy. Get your fucking weight up. Coach. Coach. He looked at his check. I got two houses. You know about them.

What's up? So that was, you know about my beach house, don't you? That wasn't all. After that clip went viral, Mitchell escalated even further, appearing to drop Miles' address live on air. No way. And now an Olympic gold medal. 3568 North Point Drive, Sandestin, Florida. He said he proceeded to drop the location.

He did it. Wait, what is it? You already know I looked it up. Turns out the address was fake. They smoothed it over the next morning, posting this video together. Neighbor! Man, what the hell are you doing at my house? Did I see you last night?

They said we beaver brothers. About what? I've been hoping some boys beat for some real estate. No, I'm trying to tell people that we're neighbors and friends and you're basically telling people like hey my man is doing alright So first off not the pocket watch but how many much money y'all be making on here We'll just work for free I'm still pro bono. At this point, huh? But in all seriousness,

do you buy that things are good between these two? Or you think it's a little bit of truth to that situation? How much does he actually make? The host. No, you can't say that on TV. It's NBA TV, though, Gil, so, you know. Is that not a lot? He might just get league pass

Now he's doing that for years. No he's not He do a bunch of me. I'm Chris Miles. That's my guy The bottom you must make it he must make a lot cuz he showed up at his house Think about it. Who they work for? I ain't going to let you show up at my house so y'all can see what I got. Who they work for? The Turner Family Network, NBA TV.

Y'all better go clear this shit up. Y'all better go clean this shit up. Where's the fake address? I ain't got $100 to volunteer today. I was going to say something. And it's Florida. Florida, everything's cheap out there. Who knows another man's rental property address, Gil?

If you ain't staying there. I don't even know your address. They're in Orlando, right? They're in Atlanta. Oh, they're in Atlanta. They're shooting in Atlanta. That's even cheaper. Gil, we've been working together three years.

I still don't know your address. I just know it's three left turns from my crib. Trust me. I'd be like, uh, I just know how to get here. If they ain't friends and he know his address, he ain't there for him. Wow. Hi, y'all. We ain't friends and I know where you live.

Go to work. But let's shift this over to y'all. So I know y'all like to have fun in the locker room. I know you like to take things a little too far in the locker room on occasion. I do. But how often do jokes turn serious in NBA locker rooms? It happens a lot. It happened my first year, my rookie year with my glasses I just bought.

Him and Gil and Deshaun was joking with my glasses. You was. It's the first big purchase I really like made. You know, coming from college, you ain't never spent like $1,000 on some glasses, right? So I was like, you know what? I finally got a little money. Let me go and buy these glasses. I come to the, you know, we in practice.

I went on to practice thinking I'm cool. After practice in the locker room, no, it was before practice, I walk in. Gil take my glasses. What you doing with these? Start talking shit. Threw them to the shine. They playing, they kicking them Start talking shit. Throw them to Deshaun. They playing, they kicking him and shit. Gil kick him to Deshaun.

Kick him over. Just kick the motherfuckers over. I said, dang. Why are you kicking my glasses? All right, I'm a rookie, so I'm like, how do I act? Do I be like, I ain't going to be no bitch? Do I show them? Like, you know, you fresh out of, like, going to jail.

You don't know how to act. Like, do you be cool with the vets? Or do you like, nigga, you got to stand up. You got to stand up, yeah. Then Deshaun, when he kicked him to Deshaun, Deshaun picked him up, and he rubbed his balls wrong. Balls on his chest. So, you know, I felt like I was disrespected at that point.

For sure. Disrespected. So, I had to get rid of L.A. and, you know, uh... That monkey's shrimp almost came out. The monkey's shrimp? Like, whoa! Wait a minute! It's just some glasses!

Yeah, I know. I was like, hold on, they treat me like a pimp. Put your balls in my glasses, nigga. They ain't glasses no more. Right? No, they ain't glasses. I can't put those on no more. We had to Google this contract.

Wait a minute, who... Thousand dollar glasses you have? I ain't got it. I can't put those on. I'm over it. We had to Google this. We had to Google this contract. Wait a minute. Who? $1,000 glasses? You acting like this? Oh, he never had money before. Uh, shit.

No, man. No. You owe me $1,000. You owe me $1,000. You owe me $1,000. I'm not putting them back on. I'm not putting them back on. So how often do you broke them, though, right?

Yeah, they broke them. He broke them. He broke them after. He broke them after. He just broke them after? Yeah, he just broke them. He just snapped them. Get out of here over there. Get all Oh puffing your chest up Puff your chest up after I put you try to watch these watch. I was that I don't know if I could

Got all extra buffy. You done wiped your balls on your ear. Nah. You wiped your balls. You didn't like break them. No, no, no. First practice. Who is this? First time leaving L.A., coming to D.C. But he already him. Yeah, yeah.

He already him. He called me. I'm staying. You know, he even gave me the... Oh, yeah. And plus, I was staying at his other house. So, I couldn't really get mad at him. So, I was focusing on him.

You got a new nut. Yes, you did. You started it. I just kicked him a little bit did you started I just keep the market You know what took him out my lockers and put him on the floor and kicked them They're like what you go to stupid. Oh my god I'm a rookie glass. I just got here where's who buys $1,000 worth of glasses? Who just got money? I want to look good. I wear stockings. You see, he came in here with blue blockers on.

People do dumb shit. Them with the same glasses? Blue blockers? Nah, those are like designer. Them with some boot blockers. The ones you broke. Nigga, these are prescription. I can't see, man, but I'm blind now.

I could see back then. Legally. Legally blind. Yeah, these are prescription. So how often do jokes turn a little too serious in their bed locker rooms? You have any experience of seeing that go down? Nah.

Nah. Your locker room is all angry, huh? All angry. All the time. KG didn't joke around at all? Man, one false joke, nigga. You was... One false joke, you was out of there. Everybody was quiet in that one. Everybody. No music. You know, false joke, nigga. You was... I said, what false... What false joke? You was out of there.

Everybody was quiet in that one. Everybody. No music. You didn't have a locker room with no music. Oh, that's crazy. Just so we know, it's one, two. Yeah. I'ma keep it counting.

Inwards. You get fined, bro. I said... We trying to be better people on this show. ...inwards. I said... Man. I ain't trying to snitch. It sound like what you... But it sound like you doing to show. I sound like you. Man. I ain't trying to snitch.

You sound like what you. But he's always. You sound like you. You and me. What's your sound like? I always get snitched on. It's the honor system. I got a friend.

Little D-Lo. It's the honor system. Little D-Lo. I'm opening up. Little D-Lo. We got to open up more corner stores, Nick. We got to open up more corner stores. So Gil, how about yourself?

See, you like to joke around too much and you play too much joke. Yeah. We gotta open up more corner stores, Nick. We gotta open up more corner stores. So Gil, how about yourself? But see, you like to joke around too much, and you play too much, Gil. Did you ever cross the line joking around in the locker room? Oh, yeah, he told me some stories. Other than some other incidents we already know about. Cross the line? Other than that one.

Tell me how you got that. But no, no, no, besides, like, my rookie year with Chris Mills. Yeah, they tried to kill me. Oh, when he hit you with the car, yeah. Oh, no, yeah, besides like my rookie year with Chris Mills. Yeah. Oh, when he hit you with the car, yeah. OK, no, yeah, then they tried to drown me. I don't know what I'll, when I licked the donuts, I mean, everybody know I licked. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

He's the legendary. Hold on. You're going too far, though. You did do, you what? Well, you tried to drown me. You did what? Licked the donuts. And then you put them back.

And people ate them? Yeah, he crashed. OK, OK, but. What like the doughnuts and then you don't put them back people ate him. Yeah Okay, okay, but okay the problem this was the problem whooped your ass first Chris man first with your ass. So yeah, he used to give me that But it was as nasty nasty work, but you go away There's a deal. I didn't know you was that diabolical. They were different, though. Here's why. Okay.

Golden State Warriors facilities here. I lived in Alameda here, right? So the rule was I couldn't buy the donuts the day before. Now, we all know I spent all my money on my truck and my chain. That's like me, like me, right? No, no, no. You made a million. Okay. I had a couple hundred, you made a million. Okay. I had a couple hundred thousand

that I already spent. Okay, okay. So I had a budget of about $500 or $400 per month. Yeah. So I lived here. The arena's here. The donut shop was here.

So I had to go this way to go this way, and I had to go this way to go this way, and I had to pay for it. So they wouldn't reimburse me back. Mm. Oh, shit. So at that point, these are my donuts. And I want to lick them all.

It's crazy. So basically, I licked them, and then I put the baby powder on them, like they were powder. The baby powder? Yeah, so it's just powder doughnuts. You put baby powder on doughnuts? I shouldn't have did that,

because that was the instant... What is this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, basically... It kills you, man. So, you know how I tied you up? Yeah. That's where I learned it from.

They got you first. So, what you passed down... So, they filled the... You know, we had the laundry basket, the big laundry basket? Yeah Okay, they filled the you know we had the laundry basket the big laundry basket Yeah, back then they had the big laundry basket fill up a water tied me up and then threw me in there The problem was they filled it up. So I almost drowned Then I almost drowned. I thought they tried to kill me. I had to go home get the pop pop I'll be here When I get back

Don't be here when I get back. Hey You know problematic about this story, but how you go from licking the doughnuts to somebody might somebody actually ate the doughnut You licked and put baby powder wrong. You gothuh. You know you deserve to drown after this. Oh, I deserve the normal whooping. Just beat me up like you been doing. You got to teach your lesson. Couple punches, a little bruising. You obviously not learning your lesson.

What you do to me? You not learning your lesson. What you say to me? We're going to drown you. What you always say to me, I got to teach you a lesson. Teach you a lesson. OK, first of all. That's your favorite line to me as a rookie.

This was a group project theme. So. Got to teach you a lesson. favorite line to me as a rookie. This was a group project theme. Gotta teach you a lesson. But he tied me up through me, and then I drove all the way home, got that thing, came back. It was ghost town. The trainers wasn't there. Trainers wasn't there. Nobody was there.

As long as people know you're fucking Gil. You might win in the beginning, but you're going to lose in the end. Yeah, when he lose, he lose. He's Mr. Crash House. That's even too far. So, Gil, what's problematic about that story, to celebrate the season three premiere yesterday, we had a bunch of donuts.

Oh, he might have. That's why I didn't. You didn't do nothing to them. But I did eat one of them. No, but look, the problem is they made me use my own money. And trust me, gas and money, like, there was some times... That's a... That was a problem.

I couldn't even pay for gas, so I had to sleep at the arena sometimes. When you broke my glass... Like, going towards the end of the month, think about, like, the 24th and 5th, and I done, you know, gambled some of my money on the plane, playing Boo Ray, lost that. Yeah.

So it was... I was stretching. That's the thing. You did get my money back. You doubled the money when you broke the glasses and shit. You did get my money back. You doubled the money when you broke the glasses and shit. You did get my money back. It was good about that. You'll fuck me up and then before I get mad, you'll throw some money in my face or something.

You know what? You all right, dude. Black community uncle. Damn. I'll scar you and take care of you. Don't tell your mama. Yeah, yeah, so you have a 50-50. Don't tell your mama.

I don't like my uncle, but he's treating me good. Hey, don't tell your mama now. Don't you go tell your mama I bought you some goddamn candy now. So we are already off the rails, two episodes into season three, but let's keep this thing moving. We got to give a special shout-out

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Yeah. They'll turn you out now. And let's keep this thing moving. Joel Embiid played in just 39 games last season. However, he was dominant when he was out there, averaging 35 points, 11 rebounds, 6 assists, and nearly 2 blocks per game. But in an interview with ESPN's Tim Bontemps, the 2023 MVP, said his days of playing back-to-backs are likely over, saying, quote, If I had to guess, I would probably never play back-to-backs the rest of my career.

Sixers president of basketball operations, Darryl Morey, agreed, saying he doesn't expect Embiid or Paul George to play in back-to-backs this season. We'll have more on PG in a minute. But Sixers have 15 back-to-backs this season, so if Embiid really does plan on sitting at least one of those games, that would put him at 67 total for the season, which is just too shy of the 65-game minimum for end-of-season awards like MVP and All-NBA. So in the past eight seasons, Embiid has missed more than 200 games, which doesn't even include the

first two seasons he missed entirely with foot injuries after getting taken third overall in the 2014 draft. But as we know, Embiid has said repeatedly he's chasing that championship. He wants to get a ring. So after the Sixers were eliminated by the Knicks in the playoffs, he texted Maury, we got to do whatever it takes to make sure that in the postseason

I'm healthy. He also showed up to training camp after losing 25 to 30 pounds, according to reports, with a goal to lose more. Now, Gil, I'm just going to say, you got a lot of heat from Sixers fans back in the past for saying that if he had that motor like Giannis, he could be one of the most unstoppable players in the league. And we had Pat Bev on the show. He said he got him right there running 17s doing conditioning. But here we are. But what do you make of Embiid saying he will likely never play a back-to-back again?

Is that a fine? There is a player participation policy. Probably not something you want to say out loud. But he does have a history of injuries. So he could probably get a little. Yeah, I mean, you think he came up with that. That's the organization. You know, they're protecting their asset.

He just signed his new contract. Got him. You know, there was a reason he signed that deal. Remember we said, like, that's weird that he signed that deal. Signed that for your extension. Yeah, he's a super, super, super max player. And this is probably the reason. So most likely he's never going to win another MVP scoring title,

any of that, because if he's not going to play back-to-back, which is what, 14? He said 15 back-to-backs this season. So if he didn't play those games, that would mean he already started just playing 67 games. Yeah, so you only got wiggle room of two before you're about to be in it. So all the awards that he should deserve won't be given to him. So, you know.

But do you like the move from a health standpoint? So just so you know, Nick Nurse, who coached Kawhi Leonard with the Raptors, similar strategy back in 2019. Kawhi didn't play back-to-backs. Ended up being healthy for all 24 of the Raptors' postseason games and went on to win a championship. Listen, fans is going to be mad, right? Because you're selling fans season tickets,

and they're paying premium to come see these guys so the fans themselves should be more pissed off about not seeing the players that they're paid to see you know but from the organization standpoint you know they probably they probably do what we used to do back in the day we look at all our bad games and like man I'm not gonna take this out this out this out this out right now how the average boom boom boom and it seems like that's what they're mentally doing anyway, right? taking away back-to-back taking away some of those four games and you know five night type of Situations and they're preserving these players a little bit longer

But as a fan, I know what you're saying they pay for season tickets they expect to see stars out there but as a fan, I know what you're saying. They pay for season tickets. They expect to see stars out there. But as a fan, are you at least appreciative of, we can manage them during the regular season to hopefully have them ready to go in the postseason? In the postseason. Get out the second round. That's a tricky situation, man, because the GOAT himself showed us that he showed up for that one person that probably spent their whole life saving to come see you play. And he performed for that one person, right?

And, you know, that was the standard of an athlete that, you know, you're supposed to be available even if you can go 20, 50 percent. And, you know, Kobe followed that same motto. So, you know, when fans hear this generation now, they're not going to accept it. They don't give a shit if 10 championships come from it. You know what I mean? It's like, I don't want to be the person that when LeBron James comes to town or Kevin Durant comes to town and I go buy a ticket and I saved up

and you're not there. You know, that little fan is never going to recover from that. Swaggy, how do you feel about Embiid saying he probably won't play back-to-backs for the rest of his career? For me, I love it. I love it.

I think, um... He's a little... Tell him how you feel. Man, it's fucking... I don't feel like I can't play back-to-backs. And at the end of the day, I'd be able to walk after basketball. It always hurt, man.

So we talk about Kawhi always being hurt. And B hurt every season, too. And nobody never really say nothing. So, uh, if this gonna help them in the long run, always being hurt, being hurt every season too. And nobody never really say nothing. So this is gonna help them in the long run. I think you should do it. And fans know he ain't playing back to back. So look at the game he played.

If it's a back to back, they could buy the next game after that. So shit, I think it's smart. They gotta map out this guy. He been playing here. He told y'all ahead of time. At least he was smart about it. Told y'all.

So, shit, y'all can't be mad. Women love the truth. Fans should love the truth, too. Shit, he told y'all. Mr. Cemetery Larry, you rolling with Embiid, saying he probably never played back-to-back the rest of his career. Somebody else got to do this shit, bro.

I'm not hosting and keeping the N-word tally. I said the N-word. It's difficult to assess this type of stuff. Put D-Low on top of your name. Cause it's like, you get paid to play this game, right? And your availability amongst being injured is one thing sometimes we can't control injuries you can't control it right but the prevention of injuries and the things that you're trying to prevent from happening that happens in off season yeah when you get in shape

to the point where injury is second nature to a second thought it's the it's the last thing on my mind because i'm in shape yeah and if i in shape, I'm not thinking about getting injured. I'm not thinking about preserving my body. I never think about that. I'm 100%. I want to play as many games as I can. Of course I'm going to play back-to-backs. I'm finally in shape to do so.

And listen, man, how many people in this world get paid a certain amount of money to do a certain thing that we sit and watch for a couple hours at a time. You're getting paid $50, $60 million a year. Like, yo, play. Do you think they could have did that? You should have did something like that, too? When you was hurt, first got hurt, instead of trying to rush back every time like a D-Rose. I wish they did.

Think of me like I'm all my ass Not a not product. Yeah, like I look we can get mad at the players, but We all know that There's no way that man's writing that check. I just signed you to an extension and you're gonna go out there and say this Without me being okay with it. Yeah, doesn't he have to be okay with it? No, I'm telling you He just said you we're not gonna play you back-to-back. We're gonna do that. Like that's what I seen him I seen him in in the Bahamas He looked like he lost 25 pounds. Like I didn't even notice. I thought it was Andre Drummond. Oh Shit, that's cuz he finally played all year round. You know, so like... Late in the summer. Like... If we're the team,

we'd rather have him for the end of the season where he can play, you know, 22, 23 games. You know, um... Ain't no back-to-backs. What's more beneficial,

the momentum of the season or the preservation at the end of the season? Because if the result's the same, what's the point? If you're going to preserve him for the postseason and you still don't get it done... You got to get it done. You have to get it done.

That's the pressure. So now you put more pressure on yourself preserving yourself for the postseason instead of just saying, the momentum that we got all season up until the point where if if i do get injured at least we got team momentum at least we can go into the playoff feeling good but the warriors the warriors did that steve kurt did that because that's because they won already and they knew it's gonna be where he's gonna be at but for a first team doing that's kind of tough that's

what a lot of people are like. Yeah. And if they're going to do it, there's one thing. Do you need to announce that before the season? Yes. Nah.

Yes. What's the purpose? Huh? Yeah. What's the purpose of announcing it? Yeah. Do you... Fans?

You look like Steve Carell. No, what I'm saying is, like, if you already have it in your mind that you're planning on seeing your guy... That's what I said. Like I was, you know, I was in there when our schedule came out and had to talk to coach.

Right? You know, because when you get your schedule, you have to do hotel trips. Right? So as soon as the schedule comes out, right, the coaching staff, right, they look what cities they're going to stay in and go. And, you know, with me, it's like, all right, you know, we're going to go to Miami or we're going to stay in Miami go and you know with me it's like all right you know we're gonna go to miami or we're gonna stay in miami we're gonna go to orlando right you know so they started asking the players a when we go to san francisco right um we want to stay in san francisco a little bit longer so uh on game day we'll just drive up to sacramento

versus just going to sacramento so you know mean? So we had those type of conversations. And then they had the schedule losses where they look at the schedule and then they predict what games they're going to lose depending on, you know, the teams, right? So they're predicting what games he won't play. Let your fans know that. Don't trick the fans to pretend he's playing

so you can keep getting max dollar. That ain't't fair to them but just to play devil's advocate on that if you got your schedule losses you're not going to tell your fans I already we already booked this as a loss tonight and that's my way but that's what you're sending you're sending the signal to your fans that these games he's not playing we don't really plan on winning so y'all could but they plan that's what I'm saying is, I can look... But, like, let's say...

Uh-oh, kick him, kick him. Let's say we playing... Let's say we playing the Bucs. We're playing the Bucs today, and we playing Detroit tomorrow. Yes, it... Right? Yeah.

He gonna play against the Bucs. Yeah. Right? To try to get that win. Yeah. And then sit him against that. Right? If he's on a... Let's say he's on a... to try to get that win and then sit him against that, right?

If he's on a, let's say he's on a... A tough back-to-back. No, not even a tough back-to-back. Let's say he's, like, he's leader in points and doing all that, right? I'm going to sit him against Bucs, play him against Detroit, let him get his 60-something points against Detroit. I'm not going to do either. If he can play against the Bucs,

I'm going to have a conversation with him on the way to Detroit. How you feeling? How you feeling, big fella? How you feeling? Do you feel like you can take this? Because this should be like, instead of sitting on an easy game that we're considering it as easy, why not play him in the easy game and get the guaranteed win? And then you don't even... We'll talk after that game about how you feel today.

Now, we just did this back-to-back. We ain't really put pressure on you. You played like 28, 30 minutes this game. How you feel, big fella? We ain't running you to death. They're not even asking. They're not even going through the how you feel. They're just saying this is how it is.

They're already used to them probably breaking down. That's new. That's new. That's new. So we got a mostly fans question from a member of our studio audience. Go ahead, brother. How you doing today? Really quick. I mean, it's interesting, Nick, to hear your perspective on that

because, I mean, my question is more or less, yeah, for the longevity of his career, it'll be beneficial for him to miss some of these games. But cementing his legacy, I mean, sometimes you have some of those games where, you know, you go out and you might need to get a triple W. You might need to get, you know, just to kind of cement that, like, dominance against some of those smaller teams.

So, well, not smaller teams, but the teams that they would consider lesser teams are chopped up as a loss. But Gil and Nick, like, what do you think about just him being in that MVP conversation and actually taking those games seriously? Since you're saying he only has a limited amount of games, I know what you're saying, communicate, but what do you think would be the best situation with that? Keeping longevity and also cementing his legacy. The legacy is ruined. Let me just be honest, because, you know,

when we go and look up, you know, everything he's done, like, he can argue and say he's been the best player in the league for the last three, four years, right? But his legacy accolades won't even complement that, right? Even moving forward. And that's going to go... That's moving forward, too. When you think about, like, LeBron and Kareem,

we can say with a 99.9%, LeBron's legacy would not be touched when it comes to those points. Because he came in in an era where we played games, right? So he banked in a lot of 80, 78, like MJ. Like, if he was still under the old rule, he would have broke that 40,000 four years ago, right? So the fact that these guys now today are already starting off their career with 60-something games, 70 games, they won't even touch that, right?

So the old generation legacy is going to be cemented. No one's going to – it's going to be hard to crack the top five moving forward. Nah, they score a lot of points now. But I see what Big Phelps saying, though. If he win a championship, fuck the legacy. A championship and MVP is better than MVP and MVP. What do we consider legacy? If he win two championships by doing this back-to-back shit,

his legacy is cemented. But we got to be honest about... Legacy is cemented to what? If he won two championships by doing this back-to-back shit, his legacy's cemented. But we got to be honest about... Legacy's cemented to what? If he won two championships doing this. Is it two championships or MVPs? Which one you want? But look, we got to still be honest about what legacy really is. Philly ain't won shit in a minute. Legacy is really comparison.

You're comparing your career to other people's careers. So you look at me, he's going to have to compare his resume against Hakeem Shaq. You got to win. But think about what Gil's saying, though. What Gil's saying is that the back-to-backs that he's going to be missing is going to be unfair in comparison to everybody else who did the back-to-backs. Your stats and everything is going to look a little bit different

than everybody else's because you're being preserved. You're preserved. He still could get the MVP in 65 games, right? Yeah, he could get MVP and still be here. If you're not playing back-to-back, that's already 67 games. So that means the rest of the season. He can't get hurt.

If you get an ankle injury, done. You got to play. If you get an ankle injury, done. What I'm saying is because he's not playing the back-to-back, any regular two games, if he hurt his ankle, he's done. Nick, you know how common it is for him. If you get an ankle injury, you're going to try to make some games up that you missed.

No. Yeah. If you're already counting out the back-to-backs. Yeah. So you're counting them out. So let's say he does get injured and he missed seven games. Then the back-to-backs get wiped out. So you're saying he's going to play on the back-to-backs.

Yeah. For sure, you got to. You don't think he would? No. If he just said that for the rest of his career he's not playing back-to-back? He mapped it out at 67. That's over the... I think he mapped it out that he ain't going to forget.

Listen, him losing that MVP and that scoring title last year messed him up. No. It messed him up the first year. He was trying to be MVP and playing all them games and broken stuff down. Mentally, think about it. He was the leading scorer last year. Didn't get that award.

Because of what? Because of 65 games. The year before, what happened? No, because he didn't get the 65 games. Now the MVP was his. He didn't get it. So to him, I don't care about this anymore. The two things that I wanted, I lost it.

So now I don't even want to go for it no more. I got to get a championship. That don't matter. You don't even have enough stats. How do championships don't matter no more? What the fuck, dude? MVP matters more than championships now. He already got the shit.

Joker got MVP and championship. MVP and championship. That nigga need a championship. And what we talking about, comparison? It's all good, Nick. Keep going. Don't let it stop you. Can't let it stop you. You count him? You got to keep going. Don't let it stop you. Can't let it stop you.

You got to keep going. Don't let it stop you. Don't let it stop you. They ain't winning. We got the same thing. You was on the wall, Nick. They ain't winning, bro. Come on, keep going.

They ain't winning if you stop. Don't let it deter you, Nick. You got to win a championship, bro. Brothers. The brother got to win a championship. No, I get. Listen, I get what he has to do. He did everything.

He done did everything. But why, though? Why does he have to do everything he didn't did everything but why though Why does he have to win because you got to compare him? Thank you to other guys who have won? MVP in the championship he got to be chases say chasing. Who is he chasing? He's chasing the other comparisons people we well who's the most dominant center of all? We chasing it. He chasing it. He going to chase it. No, he done. That's what I'm saying.

I don't think he is chasing it anymore. I do. If he says, I'm not going to play back to back, I'm not chasing it anymore. But what if he can last longer doing what he's doing here? He's saying, I'll chase it down eventually. No, no. So then you're going to pull a LeBron on him. Oh, longevity.

Yeah. Just counting stats. You're going to pull that on him. You're going to have to. You're going to do that. then you're gonna pull a LeBron on him. Oh, longevity. Yeah. Counting stats. You're gonna pull that on him. You're gonna have to. You're gonna do that. You're chasing. So if you don't respect it now, what I'm saying, if you don't respect it now, why would you

respect it from him? I respect it if he win this year. If he pull this off doing this, I respect it. One championship? Yeah. What I'm saying is when his legacy is done, what does he finish with? A championship, an MVP. Okay, but rank number 10 in bigs and centers?

No, hell no. He's supposed to be damn near one of the best? He wouldn't. Gil, he's already been scoring champion twice. He's already been an MVP. Thank you. If his goal is to win a championship, it seems like this. What does Shaq rank?

You've got everything. What does Shaq rank? In what? Centers. It depends on who you ask. So he's ranked three. Do you want to read Shaq's? It don't's ranked three. Do you want to read Shaq's? It don't matter about that.

Do you want to read Shaq's? If Shaq is three, is he going to pass Shaq? Do you think he cares about that, though? Yeah. Or he just cares about winning a ring? That's what I said. So he's not chasing. So these MVPs and these scoring titles don't even matter to him anymore.

Because if he's just going to win a championship, the accolades that he should have is not going to be there. He has 12,000 points. He has 12,000 points. Jokic has 14,000. You didn't know that? And he came in before him. Think about what I just said. Think about what I just said.

He came in before Jokic. Jokic has more points than him. It don't matter. I know it don't. He won a championship. Jokic won a championship too with three It don't matter. I know it don't. He won a championship. Jokic won a championship, too. We're three MVPs, so you're never going to put him in front of Jokic. But we all know Jokic is probably, I mean, we probably say Embiid is a better player.

But his legacy with nobody, when we're all dead, he's gone. Nobody's doing stat manning. You're doing stat manning right now. Because you're talking about how many points. Are you saying Bill Russell is better than you because of stat? Are you saying Bill Russell is better than you? When we're all dead and gone, there's no us to defend him. Thank you.

So he needs a Muslim champion. So there's this. Exactly. If AI were to come and see him, where would AI be right now? When we're all dead and gone, there's no us. So what does the youth go off of? They can only go off of stat man Statman. They're gonna look at this guy and say. They gonna say Chapman. If he gets a championship he's next to whoever

got the same thing he got. So we all next to each other. You guys saying rolling the ball out and beat is better than Joker. Yeah. Man, come on man. Crazy. But his resume won't look at it like that. Until he wins a championship. Until he wins a championship. And then he wins a championship, then what? The other one's still got three MVPs. We can all say we have one. It's going to be four.

KG and Tip Duncan, the conversation between them. It's going to be four. It's not a conversation until KG wins a championship. Thank you. Now it's like they both champions. KG chased him to Boston. You could have said he chased him. He went to Boston.

You don't think of the chase now? He went to Boston. Where do they have KG ranked him to Boston. You could have said he chased him. He went to Boston. You don't think of the chase now. He went to Boston. Where do they have KG ranked in history? Who is they, though, Gil? Top five. Who is they? And do we respect their opinion? Yes.

Who's the only one you put in front of him? Tim. Tim Duncan. That's power four. Yeah. Tim, KG, Charles, and Carl. Yep. You going to put Carl? Carl Malone got all the legacies, Charles, and Carl. Yep. You gonna put Carl?

Carl Malone got all the legacies, all the MVPs. Dirk, Dirk, you gotta throw Dirk in there. You got him too? Them five. Dirk. Huh? Dirk. They right there.

Them three. Even money. Them three. Yeah. Even money. Even money. And you know what I'm thinking about Carl Malone, he got everything. Except for a chip.

Except for a chip. He still got a chip. You didn't even throw him in. You said, mm-hmm, three. They still got, but I'm saying... So imagine Charles and Karl having the chip. What conversations would be different between them two? That's what I'm saying. You got to win a chip, bro.

But that's what I'm saying. His legacy, when he's done, even if he wins one chip, it don't reflect who he was as a player. Of course not. Shaq winning four titles don't reflect the fact that he should have had nine. He should have had nine. He should have had nine. From 2000 and up, he should have won.

He should have won every year. Every year. He should have retired Bill Russell. For sure. We asked the chat, Joel Embiid's injury management is a good move or a bad move. 61% said a good move. So you guys talk about legacy and where Embiid's injury management is a good move or a bad move. 61% said a good move. So you guys talk about legacy and where Embiid's going. Answers are just him.

Sheesh. So we say he's not playing back-to-back, so a couple of things. Neither of the game against the Nuggets this season are a part of back-to-backs. Okay. He should be better for us. So he should be ready to go. He dunked them last back-to-backs. He did.

He got to play. So do you respect Embiid more this season if he plays, let's just say hypothetically, like y'all mentioned, a Bucs-Pistons, he plays against the Bucs, rests against the Pistons? Yeah. I respect that. Do you respect that more? If he plays against the Bucs, rests against the Bucs. He plays against the better teams and rests against the bottom feeders?

Sick. But we've seen in seasons past where guys will rest against a bottom feeder team, trick that game off, and we know how tight these playoff races are going to be. Would I rather just put them out there for a surefire win to make sure we do it instead of having those close calls or those losses now that when you get to playoff seed and come back to bite you? Yeah, that's tough. And do you face the ducking? Yeah, you got to face the ducking. Oh, you got to face the ducking conversation.

Deion said don't duck them. On the big conversation, yeah. But they did beat them in the World Cup. I mean, not the World Cup, in the Olympics. Man, like, how you ducking? Like, that's crazy. You ducking a dude you just scored 50-something on every time. I score 50 on this dude every time.

Like, does he really still need to prove himself? Yes, every time. Yes. Every time. Kobe ain't ducking LeBron when he comes. Don't duck me. I score 50 every time. Like, it's 50 every time.

You got to keep doing it. You whoop my ass. How am I ducking him? I just dropped 50 on him. You whoop my ass and we work together. Let's go 50 every time like it's you got a 50 every time you gotta keep doing you will actually Just drop 50 on them you will my ass and we were surprised he came to the ring you gotta Give me your confidence on me Do you, baby boy. 50 every time. And does this situation tell you more about Embiid or how much the game has changed since you guys were in the league? It seemed like back in y'all day,

there was a premium on guys playing 82 games, whether you were a little bit hurt, nicked up, whatever it may be. Nowadays, it's, hey, nah. Before a season even starts, yo, I got 15 already I ain't playing in, just so y'all know. Shit, if I was in B, I'd do that. At this point? It all depends on what you're chasing, man. You know, there's just certain mindsets.

If you're chasing, you know, money, then, you know, you can do it this way. If you're chasing money, then you can do it this way. If you're chasing legacy, then missing games goes against you. It can't. If you win it, it can't. It goes against you. If you win a championship, it can't. Championships erase a fucking scoring title.

Why are you comparing scoring titles and shit to championships? I don't get it. Well, he's the same guy that said he'd rather take more money than the championship. That's why. Oh, yeah, yeah, OK to championships. I don't know he's the same guy to say he More money than the championship. That's I mean, oh, yeah Every reason 50 million or zero rings 300 million So if he if he and if he wins a chair You're saying so if he wins the championship this year and he never plays again You think his resume is good enough? Yes, if he was he already got a copy to be a top eight sinner. Yes He'd be a Hall of Famer for sure name, but he's not

Better than them if he wins Everybody else who won three or four championships. You can't name a name a I don't know what You can't name eight? You can't name eight. I don't care what you're talking about. How many championships they won? You can't name eight, nigga. He in the top five. Give him one. Nah, it's all good. Give him one. You got to catch up.

I'm over here. I'm at nine or ten. I'm at nine or ten over here. Nah, you got to. I got to. My shit is, it's $10 every time I say it. That's the swaggy's arena rule. Okay, we don't cut it down.

Swaggy's arena rules on Tuesday is $10. It's just $10. Every other day is. See, the swaggies arena rules. Okay, we're gonna cut it down. Swaggies arena rules on Tuesdays, $10. It's just $10. Every other day is... See, the problem is you're acting like history has our voice. History has the youth voice. The youth is only gonna look just like they do now when they're trying to see who's the GOATs. They only look at stats.

Championships with Kobe and Jordan. They don't look at stats and championships. LeBron and Jordan. If it's all about championships... LeBron got every stat in the world, but they still say Jordan better because he's got six rings. Yes.

And he has nine scoring titles. Damn near 20 goddamn. LeBron got every scoring thing. He just scored 43,000 points. That outscores everything. It does. The all-time scoring title outcomes everything.

When you talk about scoring championship. Who's a Jordan fan in here? You could have all the scoring titles. Nobody raised their hand. We got a very wide spot here. When y'all say Jordan, when y'all start talking about numbers, how fast do you throw in scoring titles? It's six rings.

Defensive titles. I never hear somebody say, he ain't getting scoring titles. It's six rings. It's six rings. No, it's six. No, they get that. Straight up. It's six rings. I've never heard somebody say he ain't get a scoring title. It's six rings. No, it's six rings. You only got four. Because that's the easiest thing to use right now. I got six rings. That's the obvious thing. That's the obvious. You got to win.

So what is the argument going to be with one ring? I got one ring. I got one ring. I'm in the conversation. You're not in no conversation. Yes. Because he said, name eight other bigs

with championships that's better than me. You can't. You can't. I'm top five for sure. For sure. That's legacy already. One championship

gets me in that conversation. I'm like this right now. One championship don't even put him over Jokic. Puts him over David Robinson. Yep, does it? Yep. Yeah, it does. Mm-hmm People have Joker as what what you had Joker top three They gotta be got three MVPs three champions should be the best plan man And all-stars scoring title rebound championship block champ two-time champ, ten-time All-NBA, eight-time All-Defensive, Rookie of the Year, All-Rookie T, Defensive Player of the Year, MVP.

Come on now. Let's be real. 20,000 points. Yeah. So is David Robinson top five right now? Is that what you're saying? You got it. Put him in front of this. Who's your top five? Who's your top five center? My top five? Who's your top five right now? Is that what you're saying? You got it. You're going to put him in front of this?

Who's your top five? Who's your top five center? My top five? Who's your top five center? It's not my top five. You're not going to put him in front of yours. The rest of your legacy has to be yours. We're yours.

Who's your top five centers? Don't go off of that. Come on, man. You don't go off of that. You got to have. You're going to make me cut this motherfucker. Cut it. Cut it on.

It's Halloween time. No batteries. It's Halloween time. Underdog Fantasy did not furnish us with batteries for the chainsaw, Rashad. They knew where it was going. I ain't got my leather for this song. I got it. So they got Kareem.

Kareem, Shaq. They got Kareem. They have number two. They have Wilt. They have Wilt. They have Bill Russell. How many championships did Will have? One. One. But he got buckets.

Yeah, you got Shaq at five. You got Hakeem. They got Shaq at five. They got Moses Malone. They got David Robinson at seven. They got Patrick Ewan at eight. Boom. He going to be at eight or nine because they got George Robinson at seven. They got Patrick Ewan at eight. Boom. Yeah, he's going to be at eight or nine because they got George Mike in there.

I'm like, oh, hell no. Is Moses a champion? Throw the list away, girl. Moses is a champion. And a three-time MVP. And a three-time MVP. And a three-time MVP. But are you taking Moses over on George?

So at six, at six, that's a three-time MVP at six. But at two, it's a one-time championship. And who was your top five? We didn't say who that top five was. I didn't pass the ball to centers anyway, so I don't really care. You didn't have no centers. You had Brandon Haywood. Yeah, so I don't even believe to throw the ball down.

Brandon Haywood slander. He had to pass it to him sometimes. He used to get punked by him. But I said, I can't gauge because I've never seen... We'll have two chances. I've never seen Kareem. Never seen Wilt. But do you have to see that?

Never seen Bill Russell. You didn't watch that over the 80s? No, no, no. You have to see them. You're looking at their stats. I'm going to prove... So then I'm going to prove to you what the future does then. Because I've never seen them play, right?

So I can only go by their accolades now. Because I've never physically seen what they did. So I can only go by their accolades now. Because I've never physically seen what they did, so I can only go to their name and say, oh, he was a ten-time MVP, this and this. So now that's all I can do. So you really do that? No, you know he don't. He don't. Because he don't respect half of the...

He just had to draft. He don't respect half of the dudes that got... Why he didn't draft none of them up? He didn't draft nobody he's talking about. Bro, all the old... He drafted all the old people. All the Bro, he drafted all the old people. All the old. He drafted all the old people. Why? And he hated the 80s and the 70s.

He drafted nothing but 80s and 70s. He was together. I didn't see you say, oh, we got to get David Robertson today. Never. He didn't say nothing. Patrick, you win. Never. He wasn't thinking none of that.

We had Kareem. Who are you talking about? He's number one. We had the number one. Well, we need number seven, foe. You need to be. Huh? So we did one. We had the number one. What we need number seven for? He needs to be. Huh? So we did it.

You went and got Dirk. Won. Thank you. We won. LeBron, of course. We had LeBron. We had LeBron. We had KD.

We had Magic. We had Tim Duncan. We had Kareem. We had and Dirk. They're talking about. Well, we did that. But had, uh, and Dirk. They talking about. Well, we did that. But, no, no, you picked LeBron over Jordan. I just wanted to let you know that.

Yeah. Yeah. Mm. And you just said Jordan had ten scoring titles and all this shit. Uh-oh. But you picked LeBron over... I'm going off of... What I'm saying is, like, the people we picked, we can only go off of the accolades. We can't go off of what we see. That's all I'm going off of what I'm saying is like the people we picked we can only go off of the

accolades we can't go off of what we see. That's all I'm saying like the future is going to go off of what they can read. You're talking about that but as players do you care what some young kids are saying when they're talking about you that never saw you play? Or do you care about winning that chip? And Anthony Edwards just said none of them could play. All of them just won and he just said none of them got to play. That's like us allowing them to say, like, Kobe ain't never had no game.

Are we just going to let them say that? People do say that. And think about it. To say that is your opinion, right? Don't we have to correct errors? That's an error, little fella. Hey, that's a mistake, young fella. They're not going to listen to Hallmark? Who you say is better than Kobe?

Come on, let me show you something. And they be having Kobe rank like 13 on other, that's crazy. And Barbershop's, he's three. You got to do this. Kobe LeBron. Anybody who played basketball against any of them is one, two, three. Mm-hmm. But, but-

I'll say in any order. That era is without, when you say anybody who's saying one two three remember They did not play basketball against Kareem Magic Bert so those guys are really not even in our top fives because we never seen them and They're not the cool position anybody got Kobe out of the top three. It's You're crazy. You're crazy. Not only cooked. It's sick. But you fucked, yeah. They need that chainsaw.

Don't make it. But that's what I said. When people talk about Kareem, I was like, I mean, I can't. I don't know what you played against. You got it to work? OK. I don't know what you played against, but to have 38,000 points, I mean, god damn.

You know what I mean? For sure, for sure. Like, I look at Magic today, and I'm like, how many assists would he average today with the extra dribbles everybody get? Ten years? Huh? Magic played, like, ten years and did all that. Five championships in a year.

Yeah, that's crazy. Well, let's talk about another situation with the Sixers. Unfortunately, they're already dealing with some injury issues. As Paul George went down in last night's preseason game against the Hawks, we have the video. So it's been reported that he suffered a hyperextended knee. A little Kawhi. You can see it right here. Oh, oh, oh. It's been reported he suffered a hyperextended knee. No timetable for recovery revealed at this time. So as a reminder, PG signed a four-year, $212 million deal

with the Sixers this offseason as a free agent. As we know, he's dealt with some injuries in the past, but did play 74 games last season for the Clippers. Gil, you've been a big fan of the Sixers' offseason moves and current roster outlook. How nervous should Sixers fans be about PG's hyperextended knee? That looked like more of a bone bruise type of injury. So, 14 days?

You think 14 days on a bone bruise? On a bone bruise, 14 days. When does the season start? Yeah, I think he'll be ready by the season. Next week? Nah. You don't think so? Because you're not going to throw cortisone in it right now to speed it up.

So you'd rather let it get... I didn't throw cortisone in that. You don't want him hobbling. 14 days? Yeah. What about 14 days? You think two weeks, Gil. Yeah, I think so too.

I'm going to say given the landscape of the league now and PG's prior issues, that's at least a four to six week situation. So Gil, is that two weeks like to return to a game or two weeks before you can return to working out Depends depends on how bruised it is. But for the most part usually bones bruises about 14 days. We plan in November for sure Shot I see you with the chainsaw attempting to remove one your legs. Yeah, I'm out. I was trying to okay But give them yours, okay, It, like, bucked. It didn't go all the way back. So it wasn't, like, hyper-stained.

There was no ligaments that would have been, you know, sprained. And that looked just like, boom. Mm. Done that before. This offseason, everybody said the Sixers won the offseason by coming out with this new big three, MB, Tyrese, Maxie, PG. But we got MB saying, now you're not playing back-to-backs.

Daryl Morris saying PG probably won't do that either this season. Can we expect the Sixers' new big three to play at least 41 games together? God damn. At least 41. Imagine if you went to your old, you just got a raise at y'all jobs, bro. Fuck this job. And then the boss was like, yeah, you ain't got to work Tuesdays and Fridays. He's like, what?

What, I ain't arguing. What? Come on, man. This, what? What? He older, though. PG older. He need it. I don't care. I just signed 220. You telling me I ain't got to play 14 guaranteed games?

He need it. PG 34, turn 35 in Mac. You know how they do per minute, per game, and all that? When they do mine, when they do mine, they better do it without the 14 games so you can see how much I really make. Don't do 82. I'm only playing 67. I got a question. PG need it, though. Yeah. I got a question. PG needed, though.

I have a question. All right. Did the Clippers know something that the Phillies didn't? No. No. No. Hey, listen, Paul, look. Hey, Paul, we're not...

If they did... Paul, we're not gonna give you that. If they did, they'd still... We know you're not gonna... He's been sitting like this. We know you're not gonna be available. And they got him on the little chair. They got to elevate that chair.

They got to lift up that chair. Did James Harden know something that we didn't know? Mm-hmm. Too much podcasting, man. Huh? Because one left, one stayed, they both hurt. Freak out. Man, these are...

One's a freak accident. I'm just saying. No, no, no. We're talking about prone. 35, man. We're sitting too much talking. People don't like the word. They don't like the word injury prone, right?

I don't like that word. You don't like that word, right? Nobody likes that word. I don't like that word. But what's the reality? I don't like that word. If you're consistently injured and you can't be available for the team, you are unreliable.

Ooh. I get it. No, no, I'm messing. I'm rolling with PG. I get it, but I don't like the word. I would rather PG do that, no back-to-backs, for sure. For sure.

He don't need to worry about accolades. He need a championship. James Harden playing 82 games is impressive to me But James Harden will play 82 games he has to know he will cuz he has to he don't have He's the last one left and he's a no I'm saying either real way like but think about the last time he has he's had to Play he's done it all over reason But when he was the guy, this is my team, I'm going to be available the whole season.

You didn't hear none of that. I'm sitting back-to-back shit. Nah. And people hate him, too. They hate on James. But you don't see none of that, though. So Kawhi got to get back fast to me. It makes sense.

But then, you know, Paul George, he can't. He got 25,000 points? Oh, no, he playing. I would. I would do it, man. That's what I'm saying. I know. Hard to play 82 games one time in his career,

but he had a stretch with the Rockets where it was 81, 82, 81. There you go. Now, I think MVP season the year after that was playing 72 games. Played 72 games last season with the Clippers. If I'm James, I'm trying to get to 30. But when we look at this squad, how much of this Sixers' big three are we actually going to see on the court together? How much do you need to see if they're going to do

the things that they said they were this offseason, or the goals that they had? They got to play together. You don't want none of that Phoenix Sun stuff. You got to do what the Warriors did. KD, you didn't hear no KD sitting, no Steph sitting that first year. You got to build chemistry for sure.

I think. Because they all used to getting the ball. They all stars. You got to understand chemistry for sure. I think. Because they all used to getting the ball. They all stars. You got to understand there's one ball out there. And you got to get used to sharing that motherfucker. But what's the trend that we keep seeing with the big threes? That's what I'm saying. They ain't never the big three all consistently

throughout the whole season to be able to say, we like y'all together. Bradley building them, he was never really available. I think they got more than the Phoenix. The others, the others. Who? The big three, the janky legs and this. They got more.

They got a lot in Phoenix. I like Oubre and... They just don't do nothing anymore, man. Yeah. Like, training camp ain't training camp. Like, that's... Like, whoever convinced the team not to have training camp, they should, oh, my God, y'all, they should be fired.

Man, for real, it's too soft, bro. Like, whoever told me that, yo, don't have no training camp, they'll last long, I should be able to go back and slap somebody. Because I don't know if they understand, but there's a difference between working on it in the summer with your trainer. Yeah. Right?

Running the beach and doing all looking physically good and then running a couple line drills in a competitive situation. When you're here on the line. On the line. That motherfucker hit different. He done took off because he's trying to take my position. Yeah. I got to run it. Man.

Yes. You're missing. That's what got you in shape. And got you ready for the season. Eight seconds or nine seconds? It was 17 in a minute. Yeah, but when you go up and down, what was it? It was 10.

10s and 33s. But that's what I'm saying. But think about what we had to mentally. 33s. Like two a days. We're getting in shape. Most of us on the second back-to-back, we're we're getting in shape most of us on the second the second back-to-back We're done walking in it. Oh, man

We used to that when you used to that because the summer didn't mean it all that right They don't mean the same because we are competing for a competitive training. It's a competitive training They got away from that. That's what I was and see shit. See, that's what I be saying about trainers. Like, y'all doing cones with no defense. They want to be Instagram trainers. And you want to show all the highlights, all your main shots. All the videos, all that cute shit.

That shit barely misses, Nick. Rarely misses. I mean, people used to hate cameras in the gym. Yeah. Like that. Now you get to fake like you good. Man. You get to fake like you good. I told. You get to fake like you're good.

I told you, Joe, that's why they didn't want to bring me around and start workouts. I'm not going to let you look good in this workout for the cameras, think that this is how we train in the NBA. This is not how we... Bro, like you say, you're a corner boy, and you got to get it out the mud from around the corner, and you see this dude come around with these jewels on thinking it's sweet. Bro, I'm about to... Hey, homie, we about to get him.

We about to get him. He think it's sweet out here. No. I'm talking crazy. What? I literally seen them at, they was at the pool. When I was in the Bahamas, they was at the pool, chilling at the pool. They was gambling.

I asked, I asked, hey, man. Y'all got... What y'all doing in Channing Can? Like, how y'all got energy to be here? Right, right. Steven being a liar. I used to be, like, so nervous, excited. What kind of energy you got to be sitting here throwing money?

That's the last thing you want to do. I'm tired as hell. Man. Body cramps, spasms. What? Got the IV in me. Where's the Epsom salts? I need the Epsom salt bath right away. Right now. My knees are aching.

Girl, they got to work with him? Work? In training camp? Nah. You need to work with us. No way. We're not even, we wasn't even allowed to have to work with us. What?

What? You couldn't bring the work. No work to bring the work. No what? Be scared to bring the work. No work, bro. We don't have time. Didn't I just tell you?

Be scared to be the work. Huh? I'm tired, bro. I just told you, cramps, gone. Think about trying to get it. No road sparks at training camp. No road sparks. No road.

No road. You over there hamstringed. You over there two pumps in. Ah! Got to jump right out of it. Probably the last day of training camp. He's draining the life out of me. Ain't no stroke game there, boy.

He's draining the life out of me. All right? You just lay on the back. Just do what you got to do, girl. I don't know more. I don't blame myself. I blame myself. We getting that Bernie's.

We got no more of that. We getting that Bernie's. Right in my right ear. We getting that Bernie's. Leave me alone. We getting that Bernie's, for real. I'm getting that Bernie's. I got no action for you.

With the shoulder. Yeah, with the. Are you done? Yes, sir. You done? You got your fix? My bad. I'm going to sleep. You don't want to see no work.

You got to sleep with them or something. You don't want nobody. Then they go out to preseason and barely play. Oh, man. Barely play. So you ain't really training in training camp and you ain't playing in preseason. I thought I was going to play. You don't want me to criticize you?

You don't want me to criticize you from going for 3 for 17, though? First game of the season? Yeah. I used to look forward to preseason. Killing. Killing. What? First game of the season?

Fresh out of training camp? Coach, this my play? Right? Last day of training camp was in love. That's when people are happiest. The last day of training camp. And I can tell you when the Stars play, let's just say I ain't playing first game. Yeah. Him and Kobe Manning and then Steve Blake out there getting busted.

Right? Out there, ah, ah, ah. They over there high-fiving him. Yeah. They be happy in there. No. They be like, yo, that kind of thing. No, I got to play Steve's up.

I'm going to play this. Yeah. Yeah. And he over there looking at the shirt after every bucket. Right. Yeah. Oh, I gotta play Cease Up. I'm gonna play this. Yeah, Gil. And he over there looking at the jersey after every bucket. Right? Yeah, Gil. Nah, nah. Talk shit, yeah, Gil. Yeah, Gil.

I'm coming for that spot. Yo. No, no. False advertisement. They don't know. They think you about to get submitted. Yeah, they think you about to get submitted. They had no one shooting around.

I was happy. I used to go fast as hell when I knew I was used to play. Like, Nick, slow down, man. Slow down. You gonna get in. You gonna get. You playing, bro. I'm playing today,, slow down. Slow down. You're going to get in. You playing, bro. I'm playing today, Nick.

Let me warm up. I said, Trayvon. Let me warm up. Let me get warm up in. It's just weird, man, because it's like you wonder why they getting these little neck. The body's just not meant for it. That is it.

Like, I don't care. Listen, I remember we talked to Eddie. Eddie was like, yo, remember before, like the week before we started, we used to Eddie. Eddie was like, yo, remember before, like, the week before we started, we used to run the bleachers. We're going to run the bleachers, and we playing 10 games. 10 games. That's dope.

Yeah. Because that's a lot of playing. Eddie or Hooper, though. Eddie or Hooper. Eddie, no. He's like, we just need to play. Just play. But that's what I'm saying.

Wait, wait, wait. How much did this cost, too? This takes some money off. You spilled shit on me. I just wanted to let you know That's the half I get 50 because you were supposed to say to where after he did. Yeah, I was supposed to say It's just water no no It's filled though. It's filled on me. Your water dries up. No, no, I don't

I'm allergic. You sound like you just want to call me off my name. I sound like the work. Like the work. The work. The work. Don't put that on. Don't put that on. I'm allergic to it.

I'm allergic to it. I'm allergic to water. Well, let's keep this thing moving. You already know Underdog got you covered with a new special every day in October. Today's Boostober special is a 31% profit boost on eligible MLB and NHL entries. Head over to UnderdogGap. Use promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em,

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We all got gift boxes yesterday. Nick, I think you got one here, too, with some Gil's Arena merch up in there. Yeah, we can get a Gil's Arena. Big cap, because he capped all that. Oh, man, Steve, if he could hook up one of them. You need the big cap. Yeah, I need the big cap with the big cap.

You know what I'm saying? I hope you got a little person in there with the heat ready. It is. We got a couple of them. There's two of them. We're popping on up.

Left side, right side. All right, well, let's shift back over to the Western Conference. So former All-Star and All-NBA point guard De'Aaron Fox will not sign an extension

with the Kings this season according to a report from Shams. The report says Fox's agent Rich Paul wants to position him for a larger deal in 2025, but he wants to remain

in Sacramento for the long term. So Fox is eligible for a three-year, $165 million extension right now. But by waiting until the summer,

he can sign a four-year, $229 million extension, which would be the max, and or a five four-year $229 million extension, which would be the max, and or a five-year $345 million super max if he makes an All-NBA team this season. So Fox averaged 27.6 assists, five rebounds in 74

games last season, but was an All-Star and All-NBA team snub. So what are the chances that De'Aaron Fox makes All-NBA this season with this new look? He ain't gonna make it. He ain't gonna make it. He gets snubbed. Not like that. He gets snubbed too much. Like people disrespect Darren Fox too much. I think he probably got to get out of Sacramento to tell you the truth. Is that just to get recognition or to win?

He been in there too long. I don't know. It's just to me Darren Fox should be for sure a top five point guard in his league. You don't think he's a top five PG right now? I think so, but he don't get no credit for what he's doing. People put everybody above Darren

Fox. He gets forgot about every time. I think it's just because it's Sacramento. I don't know. You go to Sacramento, that's like the last, you know, you're done after that. It's over. It's a graveyard. It's a graveyard. Like, that's like the last stop.

For sure. There's worse teams than that. No, Sac, no. Now. There's worse teams. Sac and Wizards now and Detroit. Portland. Now, you're putting Sacramento in that conversation?

Yeah, it's like the last stop before you go to the upper room. Nick, they got... Nick. Facts. Facts. Tell it how it is, Nick. Nick, they got seven chilies

in the Sacramento area and a Topgolf. Like I said. You know who? Who? Chilies? All right, don't disrespect chilies.

Three for 10.99. Great restaurant. Fire an Americana. But, Sean, what do you think the chances are De'Aaron Fox can make an all-NBA team this year? Kings had a great season in 2023. Obviously, we're ninth seed last year. But if everybody in the league scoring goes down and production goes down, he could have a chance. Like I said with Ant Edwards, his production has to come down, he can have a chance. Like I said with

Ant Edwards, his production has to come down for them to have a better chance of winning because now you got to get the collective team involved. You got a good collection of players. How do you maximize everybody's potential and their performances by sharing the wealth, sharing the ball,

learning how to play team ball. I think with DeMar coming there, it utilizes a lot of things. With Malik coming off the bench. Herter's still over there with them. I think he's still in there. Then you got Murray. You know what I'm saying? They got a squad.

I mean, they got a nice squad, right? So for him, if you've been doing a lot with less than the squad you got coming in, and you haven't gotten any recognition, that would only mean his production would have to go more than what it's been, which would isolate everybody, the new good players that could help you win.

So I think for him, he won't do it. He won't make the All-NBA. He won't do it. But I think he has a better chance of taking them further yeah so in the playoffs what if the production is the same as last season but instead of finishing ninth they finished closer to third like they did in 2023 when he made that's all nba that's all right so is it the winning that's more important than taking your team putting them in position to win yeah shows your value as a player in the league like especially

when we say all NBA. Gil's like, all right, all-stars different from all NBA. You get more value from all NBA. So for him, his value is going to be more than Dame Lillard, all those guys who get the nod over him. If I make it further than y'all, you got to... Like, Shea jumped in front of Darren because he was able to take his team further. Oh, that's true But 30 35 and 5 but just remember that 30 how is how he's getting that 30 is consistent

There I can get 30, but he he's sharing it with Keegan and Sabonis and you know saying he's still doing his thing So talk a little bit more about the Kings They made efforts to build around Fox Adding to Marta roads in the offseason to go along players like Sabonis, Malik Monk, Higginbury, like you said. So after finishing third in the West 2023 and ending their 17-year playoff drought, they were ninth this past season, got knocked out of the final playing spot by the Pelicans, and they just made a trade with the Spurs on Monday to create some roster flexibility, sending forward Jalen McDaniels, their 20-31 second-round pick, and Cash of the Spurs for

a top 55 protected second-round pick, cash for the Spurs for a top-55 protected second-round pick. But really just kind of free up that roster spot to potentially bring in another player. So when you look at the Kings in 2023, obviously one of the best seasons they had in a long time. 2024 didn't quite live up to expectations. What are realistic expectations for the Kings this season in a tough Western Conference?

I think they can make the playoffs for sure. I think they can go the playoffs for sure. I think they can go. It depends on, I'll tell you, it depends on DeMar, really. How he come in. They could be anywhere from four to eight. I don't see him being number one, no. But they could be anywhere from four to eight to me. Where does DeMar fit?

That's the thing. Is he the leader? Right now, I feel like he has to be. Because he's older? Yeah, and... I'll tell you the truth, he's been there. He's the only one that... He's been to the Eastern Conference Finals,

Cup multiple times. And at this point, he's got to win, too. He's got to win. He's got to win something. But you think DeMar coming in... So you're not saying... You're saying Darren Fox is not the leader of this? Sabonis is the actual leader.

Sabonis is like the leader on the court. He's the Draymond Green. Yeah, he's that, yeah. Hey, can I ask y'all something? If he makes the All-NBA, say that number again. So if he makes All-NBA, Gil, he can sign a five-year, $345 million Supermax. If you was the owner, if any of you guys was the owner of the Sacramento Kings,

would you want De'Aaron Fox to make that All-NBA team? Nah. No? No? No? In order to retain him. You can save yourself. Or you can lose him. In order to retain your franchise player. Yeah. You can to retain him. You can save yourself. Or you can lose him. In order to be seen your franchise play. Yeah.

You can retain him anyway. You can retain him at a four-year, $229 million deal. Say that. Four-year what? $229 and save yourself $116 million. But could he get that somewhere else? No. No?

Most money is at home. Now, let's say you're the owners. We're all voters. How much would you pay me not to vote for him? Did they do that to Maxie or no? I'd be trying to say, I'd be trying to... $999 or less. I'd be trying to tell you motherfucking people

that you can't trust nobody. I just asked you guys if y'all, right, if y'all could pay me not to vote for him, you said you'll give me a couple million, right? Because in the long, it saves you hundreds of millions. So but if you win and you, it's undeniable. But I can't. It's a good investment.

And my, I'm in Sacramento. I can't afford, how much did I just pay DeMar? DeMar DeRozan? 200 something, right? No, he's like $75, right? No, I mean Sabonis, right? Yeah, Sabonis under contract through 2028, got another, what, like $180, $190 left.

I can't afford him. I can't afford him at $320, so I want him, but I want him for $220,000. Should I hope he signed a 163 now, but he won't? Nah. So I'm going to give him $220,000, so I'm telling you, I'm going to pay them not to vote for you. I'm going to. If you made me an owner, I'm paying you not to vote for him.

I don't care. Are y'all checking their bank accounts? No! So why would I want to? That means you don't want to pay him. Y'all don't see some of these dumbass selections they be doing? Why you think they come out? You be like, who the fuck voted for him?

Man, what the hell? Motherfucker got paid. What is two million to an owner? Two million. What is two million? They lose that at a golf game or some shit. You paying me like five million to keep him off So yeah, I got bit. What is five million to me two hundred million? That's a hundred extra million

No, you need a boat for sales. Yeah, I'm a voting for you to vote I mean they're half the boat for somebody I'm gonna play you know you yeah No, well bone for the day you make you make you make how much you make a hundred thousand dollars a year You 500 come on You make, you make, you make, how much you make? $100,000 a year? You make $100,000 a year. I'm giving you $500,000. Come on, man. I'm giving you $500,000. That's not fair. So as an owner, I'm paying people to fuck up my whole organization.

I'm not fucking up your whole organization. I'm just going to pay people. You know, just fuck them up. Pay people, yeah. I don't want to win. Mess up my player. That my player, I can get my player. Make them happy.

An all-NBA selection. So our team. It'll look better. Is a part of an All-NBA selection. So our team is a part of the All-NBA selection. Our value is at least having one player as a representative of the All-NBA selection. And he'd be one of our

highest paid players in the league representing us. Sabonis was already paid so he can make all the NBAs he wants. We got one. We got one. I. We got one. I don't need another one. He made it up. He'll be at third team in 2024.

You want the white man for the front of the company. I get it. I don't want the person. Sellout brothers on the next Jerry Spinks show. Like, I mean, like, y'all acting like that. Sellout brothers on the next Jerry Spinks show. I'm just saying, like, why we pretend. Y'all pretend like this stuff don't happen, though.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hell no. What? Name that Hell no. What? Name that third team. Hmm? Name the third team. Hollenberg. No, name the third team.

I'll be at third team. Give me one second. There's going to be somebody on that third team that his numbers was better than and his team was better than. Jalen Brown, right? No.

So you're colluding that the Sacramento Kings are paying people not to vote for De'Aaron Fox. I'm not saying Sacramento is paying because he's up now. So we can ask that in about six more months. You want the third team, Gil. So we got LeBron, Steph Curry, Sabonis, Halliburton, Devin Booker. You got two of them on there?

That look... Steph, his numbers was better than Steph, and his team was better than Steph. You're not going to put two people that's in the number nine league. Of course not, because I don't need both of them making all-NBA team because their values are... Then I say...

Then I say... Then I say soccer... Then I say Sixers. Who did I say wasn't going to make the all-NBA team? Because his contract was up. Tyrese Maxey. Eligible for an extension. I'm not going to pay... I'm not going to... the All-NBA team. Because his contract was up. Tyrese Maxey. I'm not going to pay.

Imagine if I paid. Who was playing better than Tyrese Maxey for it to be a no-brainer that you don't make it over this guy? No. Jalen Brunson. It's All-NBA. You are not going to make it over this guy. Yeah.

Was he playing better than Steph? Who, Maxey? No. No. De'Aaron Fox was playing better than Steph? Who, Maxie? Yeah. No. Nah. De'Aaron Fox was playing better than Steph. His numbers was better than Steph and his team was better than Steph. De'Aaron Fox was playing better than Maxie.

Losing team? What do you mean losing team? Steph was in it with a losing team. But you only could put one. Yes, I'm going to. You can't put two in one team that's losing. Of course, I'd rather put the guy who's already the max there, because his contract's not coming up. You're not hearing what I'm saying.

I'm telling you, I will fuck you every time. Tobonis was an all-star. Fox wasn't. Tobonis was an all-star. Fox was an all-star. No, he wasn't. You would do what? Fox was an all-star.

He always get overlooked. Was he an all-star? Fox was an all-star. Fox was an all-star. He always get overlooked. That's what I'm saying. Why? You're not asking why. But he ain't been an all-star? Fox wasn't an all-star. Fox wasn't an all-star. He always get overlooked. That's what I said. Why? You're not asking why.

But he ain't been an all-star for a while. 2023 he was. How much did he average last year? De'Aaron Fox, 27. And they put Sabonis in an all-star game.

They put him over De'Aaron wasn't supposed to make it. He is. 27, 6, and 5. Are you trying to listen to what I'm saying? LeBron should have been

honorable. Who runs the league? 30 NBA owners. No, neither Sabonis nor Fox were All-Stars. Stars. Neither. This past season. But Sabonis made an All-NBA team.

Of course he did. With all them triple doubles. It's 30 owners. It's the owners. Who are the All-Stars? Yeah. Name them All-Starsstars, please the third team How much I'm trying to tell you what I would do if I'm all I'm telling you what I would do if I'm an owner

And I know you I'm telling you I can't afford I can't afford them. Nobody gonna listen to that I know nobody gonna listen. That's why they keep your screw $100 to make me change my mind if I got billions? You want the Western Conference All-Stars, Rashad? You don't have billions. You are a reporter. You talking... You're a reporter. You have a vote. You voted for free.

If I'm gonna slide you $100,000 and tell you don't vote for my guy, you're gonna tell me no? Stop. I'm gonna look at you like, why? Why? You know why. You know why. It cost me an extra $150 that I don't want to pay. You got to give me half. You got to give me more than $450. Way more than that.

It's extortion at this point. This is what we're doing? This is what we're doing? People had to pay me for life. $500? You had to pay me for life. I got $5 million every month for life. Hey, let's try this.

Every month for life. How much let's try this. Every month for life. I'm releasing the tape. I think that outweighs the tape. How much would you save? What was it, $220 to what? One what? What did you say? $220.

$345. I think $229 to $340. So you say about $100 million? You're going to lose that $100 million. So $116 million you're saving if he don't make it. How much would you pay in... How much would you pay this year? How much are you willing to pay?

$115,999. If I could at least save me a dollar. $25 million? You'd pay $25 million to pay off easily. Think about what somebody... $25 million. Look how far you're going to lose. To lose?

Crazy. What am I losing? I get them at $220. I get them at $220 no matter what. I don't get them at $230. I mean, $345. I don't get them at $345. I get them at $220 no matter what.

But yeah, you as an owner, you're trying to save money and crunch pennies and shit. Like, your team is now going to struggle. But you can make your team better though with that one. I can think about it. Now, if I'm saving... Your representation in the league doesn't exist. Yes. But you're in Sacramento

already, so it's not like... Thank you, but you want to make it not Sacramento. You want to make it not Sacramento. Like Indiana. How about like this? Let me try. Yeah, like Indiana. How about like this? How about like this? You got to build your value up. They trying to hype the shit up. Let me try. Yeah.

The beam. Light the beam. Do anything. Light the beam, mother fucker. This Sacramento. What is that? Purple. Beam.

I have them at 220. Come on. What is the beam gotta do? A bunch of ugly people out here. We all ugly. You can't light the beam no more if you ain't got Fox like that. I get them at 220. You still keep them? I get him at 220.

You still keep him. I keep him at 220. Are you not listening to that part? Now, imagine this. How about this? Doesn't Fox got to roll with it for it to be that? No, if he don't make the team, he gets 220. There's nothing he can do. But you're saying you can sabotage me doing that.

You don't know that? You just look at it like, damn, I ain't make it again? Jalen Brown, damn, i ain't make it again jalen brown damn i didn't make it again what you think be going on behind the scenes brothers what happens when they find out no what i'm saying is doesn't it mean more to you guilt like for like a smaller franchise to have the prestige of an all-nba player at three okay let me ask you this i I just got the Rosen, right? I just got the Rosen, right? And I get De'Aaron Fox at 220, right? Now, how much money? I got an extra $120 million that I screwed you out of that I can give to somebody else.

What if I can get Anthony Davis as my center with the other $120 million that I would have gave to Ian Fox. If you winning, you making all that back. I do not make that in Sacramento. You do not make that in Sacramento. If you're going from round to round playoffs, jerseys, people all these. You're winning. The value comes

up. You don't give a fuck. Just like the Warriors. The Warriors evaluation went up. They pay everybody. What city are they in? San Francisco or Sacramento? It was in Oakland. Same. Short bar rocker. Ah, man, it was different.

It's the same. Different people was coming to the game in Oakland. I ain't trying to get robbed. I can go to San Francisco and walk to my car. No, you're going to get robbed out there. Now, now, now. You're going to get robbed out there. Not in 2016.

It was cool. You're right. You are correct. It's Gotham City. But nowadays it don't matter. Leave them windows rolled down. Wherever you at. I get what he said.

You need to try to become a bigger market, bro. You got to get out that shadow. I can't get. I can't stay in the market forever. So you're saying you'd rather pay him $300,000 and handicap you from ever getting better? If I'm winning, I'm happy. How you going to win? You can't move. You got your $300,000, $400,000 and handicaps you ever getting better. Oh, I'm happy Jim. How you gonna win you can't move you got your you three You got 300 400 million tied up right here. You can't do nothing. Yes, but we went when Tegan come up

I can't pay him who? Yes, Murray. I can't pay him. He can't afford it Tegan Murray. I can't afford him I can't even afford my young son to come up No I can't even afford my young son to come up and sit with me. Aren't you able to play your own players? No. No, there's a new deal coming in. You can go over to salary cap. No, you cannot. You got the aprons now and all that other nonsense. There's new things coming in.

Brother, y'all not listening. You're just talking. Man. Breathe. Just do a little bit of breathing. You're talking crazy now. Come on, man. Mom, when Monk come up, I can't afford him.

Monk's good, though, Gil. Monk's under contract. I'm talking for the GMs, what they do. Who pays you? We talking for the player. Who pays you? We talking for the player. He talking for the GMs what they do we don't pay you we got the bull pays you we talking with a player he's talking For the contract for the next three seasons though. They got a lot of that court tied up What you talking? I remember this there was a dude by the name of you might know him his name is Andre Blanche Remember that those remember Andre Blanche. He did that to himself. I remember the conversation they said. He did that to himself. I remember the conversation they said.

He did that to himself. You think that prostitute was worth 40 million of them? You think they really gave a shit about that? No, they just knew his ass was going to take the deal. Thank you. Five years. My back against the wall. You get in trouble randomly, and it's five years 15.

At the same time. Now I can pay you. I can pay him. You get in trouble randomly, and it's five of your 15. At the same time. Now I can pay you. I can pay him. I just saved so much money, man. Come on, man. This is a business. Because of another man's mistake. This is a business.

Aaron ain't making no mistakes. No, I know. Yeah, so I got to make it for him. This is a business, man. No, no, no, no. I got to make it for him. Hell no. I'm not rolling.

That's diabolical. That looks better on paper. If I got two first teams. Oh, my God. If I want to be an all-NBA player, that means I can't go to Sacramento. All right. No, you can't. That's all it means.

They don't want their players to be all-NBA. I'm not saying Sacramento. I'm telling you what I'm going to do if I'm Sacramento, just like I know what other teams do. I think what Gil's saying, you can be all-NBA right after you sign. Right after you sign. You can be all-NBA all you want. I don what Gil's saying, you could be all NBA right after you sign it. Right after you sign it, you can be all NBA all you want. Huh? Hey, when he signed that

contract, right now, listen, if he signed a contract today, today, all NBA. All NBA. If he signed, look, tell them to do this right here. They're going to be pushing. MVP, all NBA, all-star, He will never get screwed

again. So it's only certain teams that do that? I don't know. I'm just saying. Jason Tatum got it. Did Jason Tatum get 300? He made all NBA. Largest deal in NBA history. They didn't vote against him.

Or Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown too. Shit. Boston. Go to Boston. That's 600, 700 mil. Fuck. They got shit. They did pay Drew Holiday as well? And they paid Drew, too. Yeah.

They said, fuck it. We going to pay you, too. But then they put the team up for sale right after that. And then put the team up for sale. We did it for the city. We did it for the city. And they won, too. And they won. And they won, too.

And they won. And they won, too. Wasn't that a good investment? That's great. Boston, yes. Los Angeles, Chicago, Boston, San Francisco, great investments. New York, great investments. They can afford it.

Okay, look. You see these top tens? They can afford it. You see these at the see these top tens? They can afford it. You see these at the bottom? They can't afford players that's $300 million and $200 million. They can't afford that. They salary cap is more. Huh?

You don't think Memphis was happy Ja got in trouble? My best player, I get them for cheap. No, they wasn't happy. Hell yeah, they was happy. You crazy as hell. You crazy as hell. He represents fucking Memphis. He's the face of the league.

They not happy that you turned this our organization. Now we look crazy. I'm going to face all the jerseys your kids going to buy that's going to be Jot. With Memphis on it. With Memphis on it. Come on, bro. The Brandon. Hold on.

Let me try this again. Let me try this again. Let me try this again. You don't think the owner was happy that he got John Morant for what did he sign for as an extension because he got suspended? Because it's not like they said,

we're not going to pay him. When he got in trouble, here's your contract. What did they get him for? Five-year, $197,000. Five-year, $197,000. And how much did he leave? They saved around like $40,000, here's your contract. What did they get him for? Five-year, $197 million. Five-year, $197 million. And how much did he leave? They saved around like $40 million, $41 million.

They saved $44 million from him getting in trouble. They put that contract in front of him so damn fast. Because now I have the face of the NBA for pennies now. That's a smart thing to do. I'm not sabotaging it. You made your mistake. That's the smart thing to do. I'm not sabotaging you made your mistake. That's not me making a mistake for you. I wouldn't do that if I got the face

of the league. I'm going to be happy as hell if that happened to me. I'm not about to mess his whole deal up. I got to make him happy. I want him to be the happiest person he could be. And let him know this mistake. You made a mistake, young fella. We behind you 100%.

100%. I'm behind you 100%. I'm behind you 100%. I got you for pennies. I got the next, whatever. I got him for pennies on a dollar. Cool. It's a business first.

You think they wasn't talking to the league? Like, they wasn't trying to suspend him at all. Why would I suspend my best player? I'm not suspending my best player. You didn't want to suspend him at all. Man, they don't... Why would I suspend my best player? I'm not suspending my best player. Oh, no, Memphis didn't want to suspend him? Of course not. That ain't Memphis' fault. But they saved $40 million.

Now he can go beat Ja... Now he can go beat Ja Morant. But you saying... You saying that Memphis is happy... Memphis' owner is happy Ja got in trouble. No way. What the... Come on, that sound crazy.

That sound like... I just saved $40 million. Yeah, I just saw. I just saved a lot of money. I just paid a lot of money for switching to Geico, too. Just like Golden State. Like, you don't think Golden State was happy that Steph Curry was injured at the beginning and only signed $60-50-something million deal? They did what happened. They gave him everything he wanted on the back end. If he wanted the ownership, they would have gave it to him. Cool, on the back end.

And you saw the valuation go from one bill to seven. What if he was a max player at the beginning? There would have been no Kevin Durant. The reason there was a Kevin Durant is because they had so much money. That's an injury different than a controversial thing that Jai went through. That's a thing that he lost. I just said, what did I? Over the salary cap.

After, dog. After. They had the money because Steph was underpaid. No, not when KD came. They were underpaid. What are you talking about? KD came in 2015? 16?

16. 16. And Jai Morant got Zach Eaddy now this stuff's on the back Edie shit after dog don't go to the step let's stay on job after after so now I give you what you stay on John huh Steph was on a four-year 44 that's cuz the lead was messed up. Because he had the ankle injury. He had the ankle injury. But everybody's first deal was bad. He had the ankle injury. Ty Lawson, everybody's first deal. He had the ankle injury. But what I'm saying is...

Nobody was getting... What I'm saying is your best... My best franchise player was... He had to get that. No, he wasn't. And he wasn't even stealth when he got the contract. So that bad contract... Thank you.

He was happy they gave it to him. That bad contract created a dynasty. Only bad contracts create dynasties. No. Hell no. What the hell are you talking about? You're crazy as hell now. Come on now.

You sound crazy. Fuck. Come on now. Let's keep it real. Keep it real. Keep it real. Dynasties are made off of bad contracts. If I can get one of you stupid asses to sign some bad deal,

it helps my franchise build. But what's a bad deal? A bad deal is you don't get what you're valued at. So Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum didn't sign no bad deals. Hell no, they didn't. So that doesn't... it's excluding them? Yeah. They got a good...

Like New York, like what Brunson did Yeah. They got a good dynasty. Like New York. Like what Brunson did. That's considered a bad deal. That's going to help them in the future because they have so much money saved. That will help them. That will help them moving forward. So they're going to be able to build on top of what they have. But that's not a bad deal compared to a 44 for 4 with Steph Curry in his first four years

in the league with ankle injury. You got exactly what we evaluate you for. Bro, you're injured, and it's your first four years in your rookie contract. Four year for it. Hey, take this. Take it. Because we got Amante Ellis we need to move. Take it.

Amante is really the guy we want to pay, but you good. Now take it. And then we're winning Monte is really the guy we want to pay, but you good. Now take it and then we're winning championships and now I got so much money, I can bring in Kevin Durant. Nah, remember they was only playing superstars at that time. But what I'm saying is I have so much money to bring in a Kevin Durant. If Steph was

making anything close to what he was playing at, they wouldn't have made that. They don't have the money. They don't have the cap space. I have the cap space. I have the cap space because I have made that sacrifice. They wouldn't have made that. They don't have the money. They don't have the cap space. They wouldn't have went over the luxury. They wouldn't have went over the tax. They went over the luxury. I have the cap space because I have so much money. Are you not understanding?

They went over luxury tax to get him. They went over luxury tax by... To get KD. Now, what if he was making the money he was making? I can't even do it. I can because he's going to afford it. I just have to pay more money. Yeah, that's what they do.

I have to pay more with the tax. I's what they do. I have to pay more with the tax. I know that. I'm going to go over the salary cap. And if you want to build a contract, Kevin Durant and Steph Curry was up at the same time. And if you build a dynasty, everybody's sacrifice on their contracts. Don't that happen? With Miami,

LeBron, Bobby, you wait. You sacrifice. That's them coming together to sacrifice. There ain't no fucking GM saying, you know what, we're going to sacrifice these motherfucking contracts. That was them coming together. They sacrificed $2 million each. Sacrificed? Sacrificed.

The person who sacrificed was Haslam. He turned out all that money and was it Dallas or Milwaukee? He did it though, not him. He had $40-something know. He had 40-something million. He turned all that down and took 13 so they can afford those guys. See, if they would have signed

him, they couldn't afford LeBron them. So he had to sacrifice. So bad deals create... You got to treat Yadonis Haslam as what you paying him for. You guys are... I'm saying you have to... You have to... you have to,

you have to, you have to sign bad deals to create. There's no way Sacramento can sign him for $349,000 and become a content, they can't.

He has to sign a bad deal. Like, if he signed a $163,000, I'm like, okay, they're going to be nice in the next few years.

Because I got him for so cheap. Like, think about it, if he signs $163, I'm like, okay, they're going to be nice in the next few years. Because I got them for so cheap. Like, think about it. If he signs 163, think about what? 163 today or in the summer, 340 something. Look how much money I have to play with. Are you not? Do you not? My star player is going to be the less played person on the team.

The person I'm putting in front of the world got to be treated like such. This is my trophy. I'm not about to put him in front of the world looking crazy, then the next person I bring I'm going to pay him more. But you got Jalen Brunson in New York, that's your trophy, right? He took that little threat.

When Steph won his championship, when Steph won his championship, was he the third highest player to play on the team? Come on, man. What are you going to do? Who's there now? Is Klay there or Steph?

I'm going to be four. I'm asking you a question. You said, when I put you in front of the world, I put you in front of the world, you got to be, you got to, no, nobody gives a fuck. They don't care. Is Steph doing Steph? Yes, they do.

Yes, they do. Hey, if Steph is averaging 30, MVP making $10 million, not 30, I don't care. Do you, dog? I pay you on the back here. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. If Steph is averaging 30, MVP, making $10 million, not 30, I don't care. Do you, dawg? I'll pay you on the back here. Yes, you do. You do care.

I'll pay you on the back here. I don't matter. I got you for cheap today. You do care. Michael Jordan. Hey, Michael Jordan, I got you for $5 million. Cool! You don't want your star coming in that locker room

feeling like that. When he going to come in? He got to do all the work and somebody else make more than him? When he come in, he going to come in. When he come in, he going to have to come in. I don't have the work and somebody else make more than him? He gonna come in? Come on, man. He gonna have to come in. I don't have to boost your money up

until I have to. You know y'all egos. You know y'all egos. What are you talking about? Your star gotta get all everything. I got you for four years under $44 million.

If you become a two-time all-star, two-time MVP, cool. When the four years come in, I can make you the highest. But right now, I got you for pennies on the dollar. And in those next four years, I can keep adding places. But after this, after this four years, you give me whatever I want.

You owe me. You owe me. I just said that. I said bad deals create dynasties, you stupid mother. No, you can't make it like this. Yes, I might have to pay you four years from now, but today I got you for cheap. We're talking about GL's fucking sabotaging their team. Yes, sabotaging the team, bro. Let me just read it. 2016, 2017 Warriors. KD, highest pay. Why would you sabotage your team? Followed by Klay, followed by Draymond. Steph came in at fourth, making 12 mil. KD was making 26, Klay was making 16, Draymond was making 15.

At what year? 2016, 27. He was on that 44 million deal, right? Yeah. Thank you. This nigga wasn't even supposed to be a star, that's why. That's why. He got paid like Ty Lawson, everybody. Ty Lawson wasn't even in the lead in 2016.

What the fuck is you talking about? What are you talking about? You can't prove nothing. Take off Kevin Durant. Take off Kevin Durant. The contract's before he got big. Take off Kevin Durant. Take off Kevin Durant.

Yes. Take off Kevin Durant. Name him again. Without Kevin Durant. His level was $20,000. Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, Steph Curry. So take off Klay. Who you got?

Draymond Green, Steph Curry. Okay, and then you got who? Because they came in at the right time. They came in at the right time. So my original statement, if you shut up, if my best player got screwed, how much does it help me in my movement moving forward? You're not making sense.

Are you not understanding what I'm saying? Walk around with what you say this because you're talking You don't even want to listen. I'm saying Steph Curry Signed a bad deal Which created a dynasty if Steph Curry was Steph Curry earlier? He would have signed a rookie max Which would a handicapped him in the back end.

Okay. But because he signed a bad deal at the beginning, it created a back end dynasty. What's a bad deal if he's worth that deal? How are you saying it's a bad deal if he was actually worth that deal? You get better. If Steph Curry wasn't Steph Curry in the beginning of that deal, when he signed

it, and at the end of that deal, the fourth year, he became Steph, it couldn't have been a bad deal. It's the only deal you could have signed, my nigga. You was not a... That nigga has stone cold feet off his ankle braces on. I was trying to go undefeated today. You good. So, again,

my franchise player, a top five player in NBA history, was not the franchise player. Ankles had him signing a bad deal. They were about to trade him. It's fourth year. They were about to trade him. Are y'all just arguing just to argue? I'm saying.

Well, Gil Nick, this guy, he was. Like, I built Chicago because how much was Michael Jordan making? Scotty Pippen. And Scotty Pippen, them bad contracts, what they were signing, created a dynasty is all I'm saying, brothers. I don't know what you were listening to.

I don't know what's coming in your brain. I don't know what's coming in your brain, but it's looking dumb. It's that small right now. It's that small. Shai, I see you holding a brain. What does it symbolize? Less.

Yeah. Less than. Brainless. Yeah. Brainless. When Steph signed that deal, he averaged 23 and 7. But his angles were so bad, they forced him to sign the deal. 23 and 7.

His second year? His second year? That was after his rookie year? Yeah, yeah. His rookie year? 23 and 7, his rookie year? No, the year his contract was up. They had him sign it before that year.

Just like if De'Aaron Fox signs the deal right now, right? That is not his real money. His real money is if he finishes the season, it's at two something. Right, 220? 229. If he signs today, what is it? Like 165-ish. 165, six months later, 220.

So if he signs it today, is that a bad deal or not? It's considered a bad deal. For them, it's a great deal because we save just him playing, we save $60 million. If he becomes an all-NBA player, $100 something. $180 million difference. $180 million if he makes the all-NBA. If he just plays to the end of the season, he's worth $220. If I get him to sign today, $ 160 is what I'm trying to say.

But this Curry situation is not the same thing as sabotaging your guy. It's sabotaging your guy to pay him less so that you don't have to spend it. Do you think I just say shit just to say it? No, I'm just saying it's not the same. Do you think I know general managers or owners that did that? I do believe you do. All right. I'm not just going to say this shit just to say this shit.

Well, speaking of general managers, Gil. I'm not just going to say. Steve, I had to get it back. I'm trying to get my check from underdog. Speaking of general managers, Gil, the results of the 23rd annual NBA GM survey came out last week. So the league's general managers were asked 50 different questions, but we highlighted the most important response for you

because we don't have time to go through all 50. So 83% of GMs picked the Celtics to repeat as champs. 40% of GMs picked SGA as the MVP this season. 77% picked Wimby as the player they would want to build a franchise around. So let's talk a little bit about Wimby. Ringed. What do these voting results tell bit about Wimby. Rigged. What do these voting results tell you about Wimby's potential entering year two? What is his potential?

What is his potential? If 77% of GMs said Wimby is the guy we'd want to build our franchise around after his rookie season. Can you go back to the other stat? I'm con- Yeah. Which one would you- Just say them again. You want to hear all of them? 83% picked the Celtics and won the chip.

So- 40%- So 83, how many general managers were there? I'm not sure how many were surveyed. There are 30 teams in the league though. You're off and doing it right. So 30 general managers and it was 83%? And they picked a team like Boston that's doing it right to win. That pay their players the right way, doing everything the right way,

and they picked them at 83 fucking percent. You didn't even just listen. Say that again. 83% of GMs picked the Celtics to repeat as champs. 40% of GMs picked SGA as the MVP. They picked another team to win. Yeah, that's why I would have... Are you starting to fucking put it together? Somebody needs to be fired. Is it registering in public school for you? Bitch, you went to public school? I mean, public school. Facts. I'm going to be honest. Grant and Cleveland.

Wow. Not up there. But look. Hold on. But y'all. Y'all see. I'm glad it came right back around. The mini bus.

30 general managers. I just saw somebody in this. 83% of the men that have teams voted for another team as possibly to win. The disclaimer is you can't vote for your own team. So I would just not vote. I'm not answering that question. Cool. All-star voting. I mean, what's the name voting?

Hmm? MVP voting. 40% said SGA. SGA. 40? 40%. SGA. But you can't pick your own player, though.

It's 77%. I'm pretty sure 30 of them don't got anybody who's going to be an MVP. It's only about top five. SGA came out of nowhere a little bit too. Last year, what did we say last year? Who did we say? SGA was the Gills Arena choice for MVP. The following year, because what?

Whoever gets screwed out of it usually get won. You guys thought he should have won MVP last season. I got it. Seeding the Thunder. Number one seed in the West. 35-5. 40% will be pushing for who? Unless Joker come out and do it again. Right.

You can't take it from the champ. Do they got, like, the rest? Like, what's the next to 43? What's the next person to the 43%? Or they don't do that? I mean, I got to pull it up a little. I don't know. It's probably, like, 20%.

But 77% said they would pick Wimby to start their franchise. As the player they would build their franchise around. Damn. Man, that's tough. That's low. You think that's... Like today or just in the future? I think, yeah, as Jim said, Wimby was the player they didn't want to build their franchise around. So, he talking about...

Who was second? Probably Luka? Young, LeBron or something like that? No, no, I'm just talking about just right now. Oh, okay. I was about to say that. Just players right now, you could start a franchise, who would you want to build your franchise around?

Wimby is the safest pick. Yeah, for sure. Wimby is the safest pick. Yeah, for sure. Winby is the safest pick. And I believe you guys have said something similar on this very couch. Winby is the—because you can't teach what he has. And the longevity you have, the runway. Second was SGA and Jokic, 10% each. I'm going with Zach. Wait, wait, what?

Nah, I'm going with— 40, 10, and 10? For sure, Edie. You said Zach, Edie, Zach, Edie. I'm going with Zach, Edie. I'm going with Zach, Edie. You said Zach Edie. I'm going with Zach Edie. I'm going with Zach Edie. I don't care what y'all talking about. Edie is cold.

Zach Edie is the player that you would build your franchise after a few preseasons. He did have a 23-piece. You know what A-League is, my guy. You know what A-League is, my guy. My second choice. Whip me in amongst your big three of family. My second choice is Edie. For sure. Zach Edie. choice is Edie. For sure. Zach Edie.

The same Edie. He would love to have Edie. He said he wasn't going to go first round or nothing. Man, that man said he was going to be in the graveyard. Think about it. You can miss all the shots. You want that big motherfucker rebound for you. You can score, too.

It'll be kind of like history in the last, what, 10 years? Being big and stupid. kind of like history in the last, the last like, what, 10 years? That a player of the year, that a player of the year, two-time player of the year, actually became something in the NBA. So that would be history. No it wouldn't. Tim Duncan. Oh yeah. How many years did I just say? You said history. No, I said the last 10 years.

I thought you just said history. I said the last 10 years. Thought you just said history. I said last 10 years. You said both. I ain't gonna lie. I'm agreeing with him all day, but he said both. He did say both. You did say both.

He said last 10 years, then history. I said history, then I said last 10 years. That should take off. But that was the number one pick. And then Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis made one. Thank you, brother. But somebody who came into the league at like 27.

How old is he, 27? Hell no, Eddie ain't 27. 22. 20, yeah. He ain't been 22 since like 2020. You got to give Eddie some credit. He ain't even getting no NIL money. And he was the biggest name.

Two-time player of the year? He didn't get no money. He just hooping for raw off his name. You know, I just love this shit. He going straight out there. And then in college, just eating noodles, nigga. I just love this hoop and shit. I can't get nothing.

He couldn't get nothing. 200 more on the tally. 200 more. Ah. You made a N-word sandwich. I just did a sandwich. It's $10 on today. Let me get a tally.

Brother, you about to beat him. Made a sandwich. It's $10 on today. Brother, you about to beat him. Made a sandwich. Turn it around. Nick, that's what they pay me to do. I do not care. This whole D'Lo shit. I got five? You should get at least half off if somebody snitch. If somebody snitch, you get half off.

I didn't mean to. This whole D'Lo side, it's half off. We're just trying to support our chat. We want to give this bread to our chat I didn't mean to. I didn't mean to. This whole D-Lo side. We're just trying to support our chat. We want to give this bread to our chat and let them know how much we appreciate them. But back to the Wimby situation. What do these results tell you about Wimby's potential entering his fantasy? I mean, everybody sees it.

I mean, the future's bright. I mean. It's easy to see, too. He just got to last. Can't miss them. CP3 and Harrison Barnes over there now has anybody watching the games Feeling football mug you still not watching watching Dodgers baseball. I mean you still are you looking? How about the pick the pick and roll looking nice? Yeah, that's we did talk about that last season.

It seemed like it was reluctant to give up the route. It is preseason, though. He playing against the... You think Chris Ball lead the league in assists? Nah, he ain't got that much standing more than him.

He ain't got that much standing. He's 39, 49. Pop is putting in the Old Spurs. He got to say, he ain't playing back. Go get it! He ain't playing back to backs no more. That's nothing.

He ain't playing back to backs. They going straight Tony Parker mode. It's Tony Parker, Harrison, and Barnes will play Ginobili. They going to bring back the whole, bring back the system. Where's Roll? Reds Roll. 125 Reds Roll. Reds roll. 125 Reds roll. I'm picking Anthony Edwards.

The team to build around? Yep. I love his attitude. And Wimby had that attitude right now. He do got that attitude. He just speak a different language. I don't hear him. He don't look aggressive.

You don't hear it. I hear it. I seen it in the Olympics. I know it. Once you get you a couple of French bitches, you're going to understand. Think about it. If they wasn't passing you the ball

like they wasn't passing the wimpy. What does that make you understand? Think about that. The look on his face. You know that sub-title that's rookie year, though. You know when you're watching Netflix and it's the French movie.

He better. He got to show it this year. And the subtitles be like, you be moving, the mouth be moving. And then he be saying, that's how wimpy be out there. He be, and then be. Oh, they don how I wouldn't be be out there He'd be well, maybe they don't

Like he called he called somebody the end And we're passing the ball How do you say the n-word in French that's them counts Anybody look it up. Look at it. Or in Spanish, one of the other words. What's that, rookie year? He ain't gonna talk to his teammates like that. Not the first year. He ain't really got the power like that. This year, you might see him do some of these snaps and...

He got to get, yeah, he got to think about it. Side-eye. Defensive player of the year. I'm giving him defensive player of the year. Easy. I'm like, coach, come on now. Easy. Side-eye.

Coach, come on now. It's ni-h-le or something like that. Say it again. He got $100. He just said it. I'm like coach. Come on now easy side. I coach come on now. It's me Yeah, something like that. Yes, say it again. Yeah, he got $100. He just said it We made a blood We say the word That was a set up and you said learn down to connect photos steady, can you still want it was only My viewership is strong in France. That's going to count. Yes.

Tanya said English only. He said specifically. I don't care if you say it in any other language, especially French. Not on Tuesday. Hey, defensive player of the year don't have nothing to do with wins, does it? Is it win shares?

No, right? A little bit. That's why he didn't win it this year. Defensive win shares is his time. For defense? Yeah. Well, Gil, since you mentioned defense, the GMs also voted Wimby as the best defensive player in the NBA.

He got 40% of that vote. And as we know, he finished second to Rudy Gobert in defensive player of the year voting last season. Yeah, I never looked that up. Can you look that up? Who was the defensive player of the year that didn't have? Wings they didn't have the way so saying you gotta have wins, but I would I feel like Mark Gasol, you can't be a defender and that wins

I mean you can you can you can make the all-team I mean, but I'm saying you can you can hear the year No, what I'm saying is you can affect the game Remember it was rare for him because he only played 20-something minutes. So that means he's off the floor like 17, so him being off the floor,

they can run a number up. It's rare for him because he's taller, too, longer, shit. But think about if you're on the Pistons and you're the best defender on the Pistons.

That shit don't mean nothing because you still, your team getting cooked, but you look like you're playing hard as hell. But should individual defense be what matters? Patrick Beverly, I mean dude driving on the floor. If I'm one man and I'm carrying the load defensively and my team is trashed, should I get punished

for that? Think about it. Like if you're a shot blocker, your player's getting beat off the dribble all the time and you're up there shot blocking, you averaging four or five, that wouldn't be... You make the team right all defensive team I just wanted I just want to see if there's any of them out there like that they can get into the hole and score and you only did finish in second Spurs were 22 and 60 last season so the voters are I mean yeah yeah you're right. He came in second. So, last year, Rudy Gobert did lead the league in defensive win shares.

Year before that, Evan Mobley. That's when Jaron Jackson won the award. I like Evan. I like Evan. Year before that, Jason Tatum. And the winner of the award was Marcus Martin. Wait, wait, wait. So, wait.

Evan Mobley, USC. Two years ago. Had win shares? He had the defensive win shares. He had the most in the league. But Jaron Jackson won it. But Jaron Jackson won most Jackson won the award okay going back before that was Tatum and that's the ear Marcus smart one on his same team at the time and I'm getting got for just so last four years go bear in Utah and he did win the award and the year before that young he did what you were doing.

So Jason Tatum has the best win shares defensively on the team, but somebody else wins it? Marcus Smart. Because somebody's more known for defense than the other guys. Well, I'm taking defense assignments every night. Huh? Marcus Smart is taking all the defense assignments. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I got, like, I got, we have to sit, we have to really sit with some of these voters

and ask them questions. When shit is that guarding the hardest player every night is different. Yeah. Because then, because Jason can sit back and get his points for him not guarding the hardest guy. Because there was something like defensive rebounds. There was just a whole bunch of stuff.

I'm like. So, Gil, the chat currently putting their cash apps in. They want that N-word fund, but whoever's cash app is FireDarvinHam, you're a committed human being. Nah. I mean, it happened.

It already happened. Refire. They cooked that ham already. Make that ham. That's a dedicated header, though, and I got to respect it. But speaking back on Wimby, how long until Wimby's offense surpasses or catches up to his defense?

I don't think they're about even yet. I think he could be better on defense. It could get even better once he gets more, like, stable, balanced, getting in the weight room. More rebounds. Yeah. He should be averaging 15. Yeah.

He averaged 21 points, 11 rebounds, four assists, 71 games this season. Also led the league in blocked shots. Right now, he's still Bambi legs. The Bambi legs. Okay, so somebody like, since you had, you was with KG up close, was he more defense than offense?

What would you, what would you? he if you considering defensive rebounding? No, I'm just saying like if you if you had to rate his offense compared to his Yeah, well if you considering defensive right rebound on the part of his defense I mean bought part of his defense aspect it would match up. He's about 50 50. Yeah, cuz his rebounding defensively was Impeccable. Like, he wanted every rebound. So when you look at him, you look at him getting defensive boards, he's going to get, he's trying to get all of them.

So defensively, with his presence of blocking shots on top of that, with his post-ups, his mid-range, his pick and pop, his free throw shooting, his jump hooks. So 50-50? So where would Wimby be right now? I think he in the middle, too. Like you said, he's not too far off. You think he's in 50-50? Because you got to look at Wimby, he got a three ball.

He got a turn face. He got the handle. He'll nutmeg you and dunk on you. He can grab, he can jump and in he like just post somebody up like me I'm tired of dribbling. Just give me the ball right here Yeah, I think the offensive I mean when you look at when we on a defensive side even last year you had dudes literally Passing up on layups anytime. He was around the basket you can and you can't just cross him and try to shoot a step back You're on them. He's 75

4060 right now. 40 offense, 60 defense. I got it the other way around. You got him 60-40? Yeah, because I think he, like Nick said, he can get better on defense. It's the little things that he's doing, like bulking up. He's not strong enough to, like, Sengun wore him out.

45 on him. Why'd you win MB? Like, you see how MB went for the easy 60 or something on him? The games you want to play against, man. It's easy because he naturally just bigger than him. Just sit. But now if he learned how to play defense against those guys, pick up space, when they're trying to bump you,

get that bump. You know, I like his potential. He's got a great upside. Offensively, how much more do you think he can improve on that side? Like I said, averaged 21 points a game last season. You see him in the 30 range. He's averaging 30. If CP showed us this.

Yeah. He averaged 21 this year. How many minutes he played? 29? It was like 29 minutes a game. If he would have played 35 minutes, he would have averaged 28. He would have had 28. Easy.

And he got a point guard that's going to give it. Now, granted, he ain't going to be around for his longevity of career, but I think to give them what it looked like to give him the ball like this, to give him 28, 27. And give it to him in his spots, too. He don't have to do the step-back threes. Offensive rebounds. We're in 2025, 2026.

That 26-7 season, man, that's going to be all-winning. Crazy. Because right now he's someone off a rollout. That's going to be blocks, steals, rebounds. He going to have a Jordan 87-88. Imagine him just catching and shooting that. Right now, this year was all off a rollout. Just show us your potential.

Give me the ball. Come up, shoot a three, step back. He don't have an 87, 88 year. He wasn't asking for the ball and jab stepping and shooting over people. Imagine when that happened. Yeah. Turning around, face up. We were talking about this before.

I mean, you got CP3 over there. You got Harrison Barnes. The squad has improved. Don't quite know yet if they're a playoff team. But wouldn't it seem like stars around the league would be thirsty to play with Whitby in these next coming seasons? Yeah. I mean, if you're talking about the culture

of the league, of everybody being thirsty to play with each other, yeah. That's soft-ass shit. Do I have my contract yet over there, man? Do I have my contract yet or no? You choose, Gil. This is Gil's arena presentation. They'll be able to pay people because there's only one.

Ain't too many contracts over there in the Spurs. They'll be able to pay another star. If I'm winning, I don't want you over here until I ask for you. Hey, Junkie, promote us over there, man.

You coming over here, you got four championships. We love you. We love you. It's seven years, 42 million. Wait, what? That's when you shake the hand like this.

What the fuck was that? You said, what? Hey, Pop be over here like this. Yeah, so we gonna offer you the max. I can see you. So let's keep this thing moving. No, but they gonna make some trade. I mean, they, they, it is, it is, Pop.

So he gonna make some trade. I mean, they... It is. It is, Pop. So he's going to make some... He got... Listen, he got enough ex-coaches on his staff in positions right now that's going to... Do Pop stay there for the long run for him? Yeah. Oh, he go up?

He going to go up. He going to do the weekend at Bernie's? No, he going to go up. Oh, up. What, he got about three more years? He going to make sure he's all sound and ready. And then... And just stay around him just to see him.

And then just be the junior manager. So let's keep it moving. GMs also voted on the best player at each position. We have those results for you at home. I'm about to say. So, Luka Doncic, point guard, 37%. Anthony Edwards at shooting guard with 33% of the vote. Jason Tatum at small forward with 47% of the vote.

Giannis at power forward, 77% of the vote. But Joker... 87%? And not in B. Over in B? At center at 87%. It's only another center next to him, so that means 13% for MB. And you know somebody put Winby up there, just to put it.

No. You know somebody put it. They probably put it in half. Damn. That's why you got to win. That's why MB needs to win. When we did get votes. He did? Told you. How does Kevin Grant feel about that? Damn. That's why you got to win. That's why Embiid needs to win. Why we didn't get both? He did. Told you.

How does Kevin Grant feel about that? Kevin Durant came in second. He should be good. Kevin Durant came in second? He should be good. Yes, he was second in small forward and second in power forward. No, he didn't. He hit power forward now. He old now.

So KD was second in both of those. Yes. Lord. Do y'all feel like they got the list right? I feel like they got one, two, three. My best? SG, SF, and PF. I'm surprised they had.

What makes Gianna so good? He go hard, man. That man go hard, dog. Is that the only thing you're going to say to me? No, that's all I can say right now. As a power forward, who's a better power forward? That's just kind of shaky. Just use it something else. All right, put KD on the Bucs.

They win and you take Giannis off. That team will win? The Bucs team with KD? Instead of Giannis. Instead of Giannis, that Bucks team will win. That championship? What I'm talking about. Just win period. I was going to say, if they didn't have, if, if, if, if the ref wasn't there.

Oh yeah. That was a different year though. That was a different KD. The equalizer. I'm just saying, what made Giannis the best player in the small four, I mean at the power four? Is it because, who's the second? The same thing you said about Winnie.

Who's number two power forward? Kevin Durant after KD? Cuz we know Katie's a small forward So who's the second tier powerful in the league that matches up with him gives him any kind of run for his money in? This position. I would say nobody Nobody Will be apart so he's given this position. No, Sabonis. You got Sabonis. Center. No, he's... Come on, wait, wait.

You're talking about what? Your standard of position. Yeah, I'm about to say it. He plays center. Sabonis is a center. AD is a center. All them dudes are centers. Bam.

Darren Jackson. All of them. What gives Joker that 87? How many centers is in it? You're going to put the dude that won defensive player of the year over him? I'm guessing you say. I don't know. I mean, that's crazy.

I don't think. It's 87. Like Embiid is in the league, and they just trying to pretend that. Right. He not there. He didn't do what he did last year. That's crazy. Come on.

But who's the second best power forward? It's only two. Even if. It's only one. You got Cat. You got Julius Randle. Julius Randle. You got Cat. He didn't Cat, you got Julius Randle. Julius Randle. You got Cat, Julius Randle.

Cat, Julius Randle. Lakers. AD. Oh, AD's the center. No, hang on. Come on, man. What position is he playing? No, when he won a championship.

No, I ain't talking about his championship. The Whitehawks or AD? The last four years, what has he played? No. That's because LeBron got older. He got to play power forward. Like, KD got to play power forward. Anthony Davis came in the league as a center, bro.

What? What? Why Rudy ain't up there? Rudy? Even if you put Giannis at the center, you could put him at the third. He's third? He's still going to be third. But he's not going to be up there.

If you put him at center, he's going to be third. They might... He's not going to be up here. What I'm saying is... Who are you taking to start your team? Joker or Giannis? Joker. In the center, we got two MVP,

back-to-back MVP, and he will still be third. So putting him at the... If he was small forward, he's first. I'm taking Giannis as first. Who's first? Giannis. If Giannis was in the small forward position, he's first.

So me saying, all right, Kevin Durant is a small forward. They picking Jason Tatum, number one, over Kevin Durant. He should be. Boom. Now, they pick Kevin Durant, number two,. Boom. Now, they picked Kevin Durant number two at the power forward behind Giannis. So you're telling me if you use and move Giannis to the center position, he'd be three, which would put Kevin Durant at number one. And he's not even a power forward.

Man, the power forward and center position should come together. Why? Because you got power forwards playing center. AD is not a center. He know he hate this in a situation He do If the power ain't got no competition so who's better ad or Greek Who's better? He still got enough gain to be considered better

So you say look you say but say Power Forward, center merged together. At this point, AD and Giannis, you got to fight for who's going to play Power Forward right now. You got center, it's Joker, NMB, and then Power Forward is Greek and AD. Who you got? It depends. I would go with Giannis. I've seen them go head to head, and I got to go Giannis. Right now, I'm going to go Giannis.

AD better than Giannis. Are they going to play 82 games? In different ways. Are they going to play 82 games? AD not better than Giannis? Do are they gonna play different ways are they gonna play a decent way not better than yonder in different ways? He scored different. It don't be better a defense cuz you say boy rebound just go you vote No, no, and a ad can shoot the ball better Just that just so you score better than me. Don't be you better for our audience out here Would you rather have ad or Giannis? That's the code I'm taking your honest brother start my team. No, you can't shoot free throws. He can't shoot no jumpers

He did that and still won a championship no, yeah that one year who a vote paper champ Got close everybody. Everybody who vote Giannis, put your hands up. Put your hands up if you're rolling with Giannis. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Come to the mic. We got to hear you on the mic. AD. How about AD?

AD. Come to the mic. All right. All y'all who picked Greek. I thought you liked people that work. Why are you picking Greek? Thank you. I thought you liked people that work. Thank you. I thought you liked people that work. I thought you liked that.

Availability and durability? Yeah. If you put them at... 82 games each. If they say they have to play every game, they are playing every game. No injuries. See, that's tough then. You can't do that.

We don't live in that world. We just going off the talent. No, no. Actually, I'm going to go, and you know I'm a Laker fan, I'm going to go Giannis. The reason I'm going to go Giannis is I know 1,000%

Giannis mentally won't check out. He's going to go hard no matter what. what he's not gonna go ghost in the fourth quarter Not take no shot. You don't have to worry about Giannis not being available mentally in a fourth quarter Again mentally I think if AD know he not playing no center, you got him. Again, mentally, that comes down to mentally.

You know I'm not going to play. Nigga, what's the matter? Ding, ding, ding. Like, what does it matter? Center, power forward, three man, two man. If you're the best player on the court, you're supposed to be the best player on the court all day. So what about talent-wise?

He's not the best player. Who has the best talent? AD. AD, for sure. Yeah, he's more of more well-rounded game. It just goes back to that mentality we were talking about. Giannis has that old school mentality. I'm not trying to be friends with everybody.

I'm trying to take your head out every game. So I think that takes into account. Giannis is a friendly dude, though. He's a friendly dude. He don't, like, he's. We just didn't push Josh Giddey. Hey, listen. I know the difference between you people in the crowd,

and if we go out there and we put this team together, and they're wondering why Giannis ain't hitting no shots. They're wondering why we keep fouling him, and he ain't hitting no free throws. You picked the wrong guy. Who? The crowd. No.

You picked the wrong guy. AD, regardless of how you say he show up or he clock out, his clock out game is just as good as that. That dude's best game. That dude's best game. That dude's best game. Hey, listen. It's easier for me to have a subpar game.

My subpar game is like 20 and 10, 20 and 12. His subpar game is like 20 and 10, 20 and 12. His subpar game is 20 and 10. Your subpar game is what? We're talking about Yannis. We're talking about Wimpy trying to get stronger like Yannis. I can hit shots. I could, too. I can hit free throws.

I'm just going for the real. No, I hear what you're saying. I'm playing on the eighth floor. And I do everything else you do. I hear you. Outside of these two things, you can't do anything. You're not talking like me. No, I'm not.

Hell no. You're doing the one thing I don't do. I'm not going coast to coast doing that Euro shit like me do anything. You're not dunking like me. Hell no. You're doing that Euro shit like me. You're not doing that. You're not shooting step back three. You're not shooting step back three. You're not facing up and shooting a midi. You're not either, my brother. Yes, I am.

That's all I do. That's not the argument. The argument really is who's the better power forward? Who's the better power is you should score bet you score better power for or prettier Who's the better power forward you John is prettier than me you like the uh and I like the it ain't about that ain't about Pretty it's about I can stop you. Oh, no you can't Yes, you can't like saying you can stop Shaq. What do how do we stop Shaq? What did we do? And what did Shaq do? Missed free throws.

And how did we stay in the game and get close to doing it? Detroit basketball. Guess what we're doing on Shaq? Guess what worked out in our favor at the end of the game? So what'd you say? Hacking him, right? Now, if you hack him, that means he's what? He's aggressive, right?

He's aggressive. That means the free throws he missed, he don't care about. We know if Anthony Davis misses a shot in the fourth quarter, he don't want to play no more offensively. That's what you're missing. No matter how much, if he misses his first two shots He goes ghost if Yannis goes over 20. He gonna he gonna keep shooting That's all that matters to me. I'm seeing Yannis pass the ball cuz he doesn't want to shoot free throws. I don't See many games in the playoffs. He didn't say this year

Why y'all is thinking of any playoff? You're watching free throw in the beer in the playoffs, he did the same. This year, the playoffs. Where is Giannis at? Why Giannis ain't getting the ball? In the playoffs this year. Because he don't want two free throws. He's scared. In the playoffs this year, in the playoffs this year, Anthony Davis took, in five games, he took one shot. He took a two shot. He took a one shot. The most he ever took in the fourth quarter was six shots. But who's on his team?

All right. Can you say his name? Y'all want to say his name out loud? Who does Anthony Davis play with? When we need free throws you say his name? Y'all want to say his name out loud? Who does Anthony Davis play with? Say his name. Say his name. LeBron James. Who stops you from getting one shot, two shots, three shots?

Hey, LeBron James, pass it. Yeah. Get off the ball, LeBron. I'm over here. And the best part is... Get off the ball, LeBron. I'm over here. Throw it over here.

And he did not... Hey, Darvin. It ain't your fault for real. We it over here. And he did not... Hey, Darvin. It ain't your fault for real. We know the truth. And it ain't take the... Hey, Darvin. And LeBron didn't take the shots. LeBron didn't take the shots.

Y'all get mad at LeBron because he don't take the shots. Yeah, he didn't take the shots. He got the ball. He got the ball in his hand. And heобщed him to do the right play, right? But you're supposed to give the ball to me. No, yeah, we give it to you.

He did that before. We give it to you. You give it to... Who got the ball in the We give it to you. You give it to... Who got the ball in the hand? Check, check. Uh, Anthony Davis. Check. And he gave it to everybody else.

Yeah. That was the problem. Austin Reed... That's the problem. ...Rui was shooting all of our shots in the fourth quarter. That's the difference. Hey, can y'all ask me, what kind of hat do I got on? Big cap, which means you're lying.

Yeah. Oversized. Yeah, me. Yeah, lying. That nigga's a liar. You know, yeah, we all know. We all know. We all know what the cap represent when I wear it.

They gonna be over here, cap it like a motherlucker, man. So you say, Lebron will pass the ball in crush time? I was saying AD don't get an opportunity to be the guy. How many? Can you even check that stat? How many shots AD took? During the championship run, AD was taking a bunch of fourth quarter shots. In the championship run?

In. But what's happened recently? You know what happened in that championship run, though? Somebody else was going to get the credit for the championship. Who? Who else was on that team? He's still there. You think he ain't going to play? Ah for the championship. Who? Who? Who else was on that team? He's still there.

You think he ain't going to win the fourth quarter? Ah! So if I'm taking the fourth quarter shots so that we make sure we win the championship, and we don't win no more championships because I'm not getting the ball in the fourth quarter no more. No, you still is. Why y'all not passing me the ball in the fourth quarter like we was when we was winning? Wait, wait. so you saying...

Why y'all wasn't doing shit when the fat bitch dumped him? ...and stop passing him the ball because he didn't want to win no more championships? Yes, it's my soul. I want to get credit for this. You didn't get credit for winning that championship? Who, LeBron? So when he did the pick and roll and he passed back to AD and then when AD has it, what is... Who was fighting on MVP? I don't know. Jason Tatum, was it? No, Jalen Brown won it. Okay.

Mm. So we asked the chat, who would you rather have... Sometimes it just makes sense. Sometimes it don't. We asked the chat, who would you rather have? 65% said Giannis, 35% said AD. Laker fans don't even got no love for their own players. We can't pick our own players today. Unbelievable.

They told the chat they couldn't pick. They picked LeBron James. Y'all are hypocrites. I said ninjas. You know what? We together today. Don't say y'all. Say, just point it that way.

Okay. This way. Y'all are hypocrites. Y'all are hypocrites. Look at me. I'm looking this way. I don't know what he's talking about. Let's just look in a circle. I'm looking this way. I don't know what he's talking about. Let's just look in a circle.

I'm looking at him. I'm looking at his brain on drugs. Brainless. Oh, man. You gentlemen are unbelievable. But let's keep it moving. You already know. Underdog got you covered with new specials every day in October.

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Another productive day. No, 0 for 10 last night. Come on. Clay Thompson last night. We're going to discuss it. 0 for 10. This is a little struggle. Let's see.

He figures Dallas is a different situation, different climate. But let's get into our first Mostly Fans question, which is a video question from underdog user JD. Yo, what up, Arena? My question is, if you had to draft between MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, or LeBron, which one would you build your team around and why? What's up, Arena?

What's up, Arena? If you had to draft between MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, and LeBron, who would you build your team around and why? You got to beat this. What's up, arena? Us. Oh, I mess up all the time. I mess up all the time.

This ain't my first time messing up. Everybody know that. Everybody know I mess up all the time? Anywho, back to the Mostly Fans question from Underdog user JD. If you had to draft between MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, and LeBron, who would you build around and why? Shaq, you have the club in your hand, so the floor is yours. Yeah.

Me? You got the club. Oh, yeah. If I say somebody not on the list, what? Of course. Brownie. You gonna say KD? Bron? LeBron?

He said Bron. Kobe. Kobe. I heard you say Bron. Sounded like Bronny? I heard Bronny. No, I said Kobe. I thought you said Bronny.

Kobe. I didn't say Bronny. I said Kobe. Why would you build your team around Kobe? That would have been a funny one. That would have been sick. I didn't say Bronny. I said Kobe. Why would you build your team around Kobe? That would have been a funny one. Y'all heard it?

It was Kobe, right? I definitely didn't say no L. I said Kobe. You did not say LeBron. Kobe. The greatest prospect ever. That's why you would build your team around Kobe? Yeah, LeBron. For being. The greatest prospect ever. That's why you would build your team around Kobe? Yeah, Brownie.

Shut up. We will keep this moving. Nick, if you had to pick between MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, and LeBron, who would you build your team around and why? Damn, that's tough. I would go Kobe. Why would you pick Kobe? Because I think he's tougher.

He played it down there every era and was dominant in every era, from Jordan to LeBron, KDs to Westbrooks, D-Rose. Kobe was still that man standing. Went through trials and tribulations, flying from places to places in championships. Commits, I seen him miss down there. Ten shots in a row and still shot the next one

with the same attitude. Studies, studies players. Yeah, I'm going with the GOAT. And Gil, how about yourself? If you had to pick between MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, and LeBron, who would you build around and why? I want to say 1,000%. Don't hate it, though. Shaquille O'Neal.

That's 1,000% Shaquille O'Neal because I was there when the league had to change rules. Y'all know we had to zone because of him. You got to get a big shot. I was there when the league had to change rules. Y'all know we had the zone because of him. You got to. They didn't put the zone in. They put the zone in because of him, so we was legally allowed to put somebody in front and in the back of him because there was nothing to do. They also took the three-point line away because Jordan couldn't shoot threes back then.

No, no, Jordan retired, so they need more scoring, so they moved it up. They took it away, I thought. They just moved it up. Like when Jordan retired in 90, when he went to go play baseball, they moved it from 24 feet to 22. So they can, huh? Yeah, the pressure time. Yeah, they moved it up so everybody can shoot threes now,

because it was horrible. That says something about the lead, yeah. Yeah, the lead was horrible. I've been trying to tell y'all that. Because let's try that. No, I'm just playing. You can't go outside, boy. I'm just going to say it, I'm going to just go and say it.

I'm going to go with Bron. You got to. Why would you pick LeBron after choosing Shaq? So from Shaq to Bron. Because history is history. You know, I know Shaq didn't take care of his body and didn't take care of the game the way he was supposed to because he was supposed to be the best player that ever played

and walked through this planet. And then, you know, we have Bron who came in at 18 years old and is still here, took care of his body, eat, very professional. You can't teach that. I mean, the only thing that we don't get to see is we don't get to see what Jordan should have been, meaning if he would have never retired, if he would have never retired the two times, how many championships would he have won, what would be his scoring game? Like, we get to do the what-ifs with him.

That's crazy, yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, we already had, you know, 12, 13 scoring titles. It would be different. With 10 championships. I mean, that would have been something that possibly could have happened because there was no team beating them in the 90s. Yeah, Penny Hardaway. 94, 95. No, he came back. Penny was better than Jordan. No, he came back. We have Vernon Maxwell on the show. He seemed to be under the impression that the

Rockets would have still won. Yeah, that sounds cute. I mean, why didn't they win when he came back? Because they still won when they retired. They lost, what, three games less or some shit? Won three games less with Georgia. What was the question again? We just started.

Scottie finished third in the MVP voting. Starting your team. But if you had to draft between MJ, Kobe, Shaq, Magic, and LeBron, who would you build around and why? As a franchise, you would want to build around a player who's going to be with your franchise till they retire. All right. Yeah, I built, I got mine.

He going to be with me through thick and thin. He might have to get rid of that Shaq. I didn't say it. He might have to get rid of some people. Y'all got rid of him. That what? What were you going to say? Were you going to have to get rid of that blank?

That black brother that... Y'all got rid of him. That what? What were you going to say? Were you going to have to get rid of that blank? That black brother that... Oh, God. I mean, you can't go wrong. I mean, you know, I just... You might have LeBron for... He going to come back and give you a championship, but... He's going to have to be free agency.

Who said I'm going to be... He's going to interfere. I got to be in Cleveland. What if it's a nice market, though? Because if I'm in Los Angeles, he ain't never leaving. He was in Miami and left. I said Los Angeles. I said he was in Miami and left. Big market.

Miami is nice, too, now. I said Los Angeles. And I said Miami. What do I give a fuck about Miami? It's the same. You like, like. Huh? How fuck about Miami? It's the same. You like, like. Huh? How is the Miami and Los Angeles the same?

It ain't too far apart now. Come on now. Miami is the East Coast. It ain't Cleveland. Yeah, that's what I said. It ain't Cleveland. I said Los Angeles. How many people were willing to leave Los Angeles?

Willing? A lot of motherfuckers. Nobody was willing. We just seen Dwight Howell like, I want to leave. Goddamn. Nobody want to leave. Hey, that's because he want to go back. Nobody want to leave Los Angeles.

So therefore, I'm in Los Angeles with LeBron. Seem like he been stuck here for a while now, huh? You ain't got the job done. He been itching to leave lately. He ain't got the job done yet. He ain't been itching to leave? You ain't got the job done. He ain't been itching to leave lately. He ain't got the job done yet. He ain't got the job done yet. He did win the Harden Championship. The in-season tournament don't count.

You can't come to L.A. and not win the tournament championship and NBA championship. He ain't been itching to leave lately, huh? So you can't leave or retire until you give us what you paid for. One championship, one in-season tournament championship. That's why he has 10 in them contracts, because he old. He's been in L.A. longer than he's been in Miami.

Just trust me, it ain't the same place. Man, that's different now. So we asked the chat, we can only put four names due to YouTube requirements, but LeBron got 40%, MJ got 25%, Shaq got 19%, and Toby got 16%. You should have put Magic and just pissed off at Tobi. This generation. Remember, they be putting Tobi at 16 in the top of everything. Listen, we can't.

Listen. We can't go for that. Just like history. The Tobi's history is not the real history. There's nothing we can do about that. Right? It is. No, it ain't.

We can preserve it. The Tobi history is not. We can start calling out this BS. There's nothing you can do. The, right? It is. No, it ain't. We can preserve it. The Kobe history is not... We can start calling out SBS. There's nothing you can do. The Kobe history is not theirs. He don't have the MVPs he should have had, right? He should have had three. They didn't give it to him for certain reasons, so his legacy don't reflect who he was.

There was nobody on that voting staff that would jump in that cage with him. There ain't no player in our era that wanted to jump in the cage with him. We know't no player in our era that wanted to jump in the cage with him. We know that. But the history won't show that. So, before we leave today, we got to talk about something

we talked about earlier in the show. Paul George with the hybrid standing knee. So, Shams has just reported that PG has a bone bruise. Gil, as you predicted, early in the show, but you called somebody. You talked to...

No, I see it. I think you did. You didn't see a bone bruise, right? No, you already know. That's what I'm saying. You can see the bone talk to... You can see a bone bruise. You can see the bone bruise. You can see the bone bruise. Had a bone bruise, no structural damage to his left knee. Will be re-evaluated in approximately one week. I told you he might be there for the first game.

Y'all said hell. He's going to be re-evaluated. He's going to look... He's going to be there for a couple more days. You know what that means. You don't want to play in preseason. That's all. You don't want to play no more and practice and shit.

14 days. But on that note, we appreciate everybody in the chat for rocking. We appreciate all y'all for pulling up to the show. Hey! Yay, yay, yay, yay. A trick of the life for y'all. Gildas, this is your show. Your hand is raised.

The floor is yours. Why we didn't get no shots today? I was just, that's crazy. Did not have the bottle ladies and shots budgeted for this particular program. We will. You went out and got tequila too, right? Gotta get one before we leave.

And nobody drink the tequila. You gotta get one. It's Tuesday. It's not. Who has the board? What is the board? What is the official N-word now? No, wait, wait, wait. You gotta, one. It's Tuesday. Hey, no, hey, uh, who has the board? What is the board? What is the official N-word count? But, no, wait, wait, wait.

You gotta... Let's break... I'm only one day... I'm only one. I gotta pay half. Y'all two days on one day. I go Tuesday. Talk to Kenyon. No, no, no.

No, no, no. You gotta talk to Kenyon. So you paying the full $100, okay? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna make up a word or two. Your N-word, uh, tally is we're going to be Gil. Got seven. $700.

Got five questionable. Five? But still think about the French thing. It's French. We got French. It was not the same word. I'm going zero. Got a tally of 12.

So 12 for Nick. And then Rashad got one. What's the record? Rashad just got one? No, no. For today. But just for today? Nah, nah. For today. But just for today? Yeah, so all together.

He got a couple more in there. No, no. What do you got? Kenya said I couldn't turn it off. No, no, no. Yesterday he had. That's improvement. Wait, so what is his total?

Because yesterday he had what? 14? No, I had 11. I had 11 yesterday. We will do the official Italian gear. We will present at the end of the week. We will break bread with the chat. Oh, but I wasn't here with Ken.

So, like I was saying. Y'all didn't tell me. I wasn't in no meeting. You can't just pop on the scene and say, hey, just a thing. Facts. Before you played. You was at the dinner. But then you already said at the dinner.

I left. Okay, so he is exempt. So how many he ask? Thank you. You got to cut it in half. We'll cut it to six. You're six. So you got $600.

Sorry, Chad. I'll pay for it. Thank you, brother. Just like old days. Just like old days. That's my dog. That's my new brother, man. You see how I look out for him?

You see how I look out for him, man? See? Everybody will come back together. Shout out. I just spent the extra $600. I don't want no damn shot. Nah. Shout out to Move Around Podcast and my homies, A-Verd, Reto Brown.

Holla at us. We ain't stopping. Just had to wait for that check to clear. Hey, you two. Can you put the camera on them two? Yeah. OK. Yeah, yeah.. Can you put the camera on them two? Here. OK. Yeah, yeah.

You. It's two of them? No, not, yeah. Two of them? Yeah. Them two? No, no. Not them two.

So what happened is beside them. Yeah, no, no, beside them. Keep going left. No, no, no. To the left. A little bit left. To the left. A little bit left.

A little bit left. To the left. To the left. To the left. To the left. To the left. To the left. To the left.

To the left. Yeah, yeah. Right there. Yeah. Hey. Yeah. Him. Him. left. To the left. Yeah, right there. Hey. Yeah. Him. Him.

Him. Him. Him. You're looking crazy. Oh, no. Go back, sir. Yes. Let him raise his hand.

Don't tell Paolo. Do his job. So I got challenged in Madden yesterday because one of them is supposed to be a Madden expert. That's all I heard, too. Expert. He's supposed to. And he came over talking trash, trash. He came over here? Yeah. No, he was talking. I heard too. Expert. He was supposed to... And he came over here talking trash trash. Came over here?

Yeah, no, he was talking. I play it right now. So I whooped the son, which is Brandon Jennings. And then he put his paw up here. He must be a doctor because his paw was white. Oh. Paw Patrol. Paw got his ass whooped. Paw got his ass whooped.

Huh? I-21. I'm a rookie. You's a veteran. Who's a veteran? You was all the way. You did all kinds of stuff. That's what I heard. They said, and I won.

Thank you. Thank you. So I'm going to just tell you right now, y'all just go and run on home real quick because the game's about to start soon. Yeah, we're going to run it back. Run on home real quick because Brandon's going to call on you. Did you do push-ups on the loss?

What'd you give up? You got to give up something when you lose. Something's on the line. Something's on the line. You don't come at... Something's on the line. I paid $10,000 or more. You got $10,000. Can you buy that?

You can't buy that. That's right. You gotta play Brandon in them until you reach do you get your pot big enough? You know I'm saying Get your pot big enough you can holla at me. You know, you know what makes it even worse He said how many players I got? Any loss any loss two plays? Two plays he can't win. He's a pro. I know what play you're talking about. Yeah, he did a flea flicker.

Flea flicker, yeah. A flea flicker, you can't stop that. He'll do that when and at the end. That's how you beat him, right? He got two plays, so if you stop that one, he'll go to that and it's like, you can't do both. You can't do both. You can't guard both.

You run a flea flicker? He run a flea flicker. It flea. It's crazy. It's crazy All supposed to be the pros well, we got some man's over you you man play us up Yeah You know my sound come now we build it up Shout out that battle run battle mode that's not a battle mode Everybody subscribe to the battle mode. I'm going to give you my gamer tag.

I'm going to go live right after this. They think they're all gamers, man. Y'all not gaming like that. He said, run it, Nick. Y'all heard that. Y'all got to get on the Twitch, man. Come to the park. You heard the N-word, right?

Get on the Twitch, man. You heard the N-word. Nah. He said. I did not God said what he was saying so He said he said Again, you gotta text. I said a thought of that somebody else had but on that note this

Man 600 on the line Run home right now line. You got to win for it. You run home right now. You got to win for it. Shake the hand. I'm going to knock the glasses off. You got to win for it. Give them the chump.

Yeah. You got to win for it. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Battle of the Moms. Yeah. This has been another episode of You Got to Shake It Up.

You got to shake it up. Oh. He said he's shaking it up. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. This has been another episode of... You gotta shake it, Gil! You gotta shake it up! He said he's fucking ass! Let's go!

This has been another episode of Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. We will see y'all tomorrow! We will see y'all tomorrow! Sit your giddy ass down. I'm gonna get the lotion in that watch out! Diddy! Alright! That's how it start right there! Hey! You got the lotion in that watch out, did you? Yeah, I'm getting it. All right.

That's how it started right there. Come on, sit over here. Come on, right there. Come on.