Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To The De'Aaron Fox Trade Rumors

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Gil's Arena Breaks Down A WILD Night In The NBA as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to a jam packed night in Adam Silver's NBA, kicking things off by reacting to a vintage Klay Thompson performance where the former Splash Brother found the greatness within himself and showed he can still get buckets with the Dallas Mavericks. They then react to the best game of the night where the Houston Rockets took down the Boston Celtics and both teams showed they may be heading in opposite directions as we get closer to the NBA Playoffs. Next, they react to the tough news of LaMelo Ball's injury in the middle of his breakout season and debate if Jordan Poole should be the one to take his place in the All Star Game before breaking down the struggles of Poole's former team the Golden State Warriors as Steph Curry & Co. fall to 10-20 in their last 30 games. They break down how the Dubs have to decide quickly if they want to bolster their roster with a potential Jimmy Butler trade before finally reacting to another whack lineup for the 2025 NBA All Star Game. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!!  Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Gilbert Arenas, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/  Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena USE Code GIL for $20 off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/ARENA and get on your way to being your best self. If you need to hire for your business and want an easier way to find qualified candidates, head to https://ZipRecruiter.com/GIL to try for FREE. SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 2min Counter 0:00:00 Intro 0:02:00 Josiah Congratulates Gil & Alijah 0:07:58 Klay's Vintage Bucket Getting 0:09:55 Kenyon COOKS On College vs The G-League 0:26:44 Anthony Davis DOMINATES The Hornets 0:53:14 Breaking News - De'Aaron Fox Trade Rumors 1:16:39 Rockets & Amen Thompson Beat Celtics 1:28:35 Amen Thompson Is A Future Star 1:45:01 Do The Celtics Need To Panic?? 1:55:19 Eastern Conference Predictions 2:01:07 Does The Media Watch Games? 2:07:46 Is Jordan Poole An All Star? 2:09:50 Kyrie Irving Is Unc 2:22:57 Kenyon Finally Listened To Kendrick 2:28:41 MostlyFans 2:33:55 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Whoa, boy! Another productive day in the arena. Good to see you gentlemen up in here. I see everybody got their... I mean, you got the Gil's Arena merch flourishing. Gil, you're not... I mean, you almost said everybody. I'm like, it's just two. Two, two guys. just two. Two.

Two guys. The Jackie. Yup. The I hate sneakers. Shout out to I hate sneakers. Came through last week. Bless us with some merchandise, some goods. See?

Jackie shirt. Flourishing. What's that? What y'all saying? Nothing, man. Okay. Yeah, man. Congratulations.

You and your family, man. Elijah. Oh, yeah. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. I saw y'all yesterday, man. That's an amazing thing, man. Yeah. That's awesome, dawg. But this is Gil Zerino, presented by Underdog. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What up, what up?

I should keep doing this. I don't got none. That's it. That's the one. That's the one that got your ass. That's the one that got me banging. That's the one that got you. Yeah.

You got it. Seated next to Gil, representing the tough crowd, tough crowd, University. Mr. B, Brandon Jennings is in the house. And we got former number one pick, the bully from Oak Cliff, Texas, Canyon Martin. Where he come from, the bullies get bullied. Oh, yeah.

That's your underdog name, Oak Cliff Bully, right? I'm talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Getting a pick who's flourishing. And for all the fans out there, we still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, a vertical mobile version. Pick whichever one you want to watch.

Just make sure you watch the show. But here's what's cracking in the arena today. Anthony Davis had his fifth career 40-20 game to give the Lakers their fourth straight win. Can the Lakers rely on this version of AD for the rest of the season? We need it, please. You can have the keys. You can be number one, two, three, four, and five. You keep playing like this, AD. With a 10

and 20 record in their last 30 games, the Dubs are looking more like the Ls. What do the Warriors need to do to do right by Steph? Thank you. And the Celtics are 5 and 5 in their last 10 games. How concerned should the defending champs be with their recent struggles?

But before we get into all that, as always, show's brought to you by Underdog. The best app for your big game party is on your phone. That's right. You and all your friends could be feasting on Underdog. Ride together on stats like passing yards, first TDs, interceptions, and so much more. If you or your friends haven't joined Underdog yet,

get on there now. And as always, use promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. So as for tonight, Brandon has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let's take a look. This could be your six for six. What we doing tonight? Currently.

Oh, you, okay, you added one more to it. Let's go. You're trying to get that four-peat. You got... You gonna play tonight? You got to hit the shit last night. His shit might be shut. Ooh. You got Jalen Green higher, 2.5 assists. If he can see, he can pass.

He can see, he can pass. So if he don't play, it just can't happen. I just want you to know, yeah, he got hit in the shit last night. You got Anthony Davis higher, 24.5 points. Lakers at Sixers, second item of back-to-back. Philly ain't got nobody to guard him over there, unfortunately. So here's a little tidbit for you. AD has averaged exactly 24.5 points per game versus Sixers in his career.

I'm going to get 25 tonight. All right. 25. It is the Sixers. You got Steph Curry. Higher, 6.5 assists. Warriors are at the Jazz. Yeah, they be doubling Steph a lot.

They need one. So I think his assists will go up. You got Dame Lillard, higher, 2.5, three-pointers made. At Portland. Going back to his stomping grounds in Portland. Come on, witch. Yeah, a milliarity. At Portland, too, tonight?

Man, you know he gonna be shooting that thing. Yeah, three threes made. You gonna get that shit in the first quarter. You take this partner pack, you get 5.74 times your bread. If it hits, I got faith in you, Mr. B. But let's see what the chat thinks. So we asked the chat if they're riding or fading. 67% of the chat has faith in Mr. B and his partner pack tonight. Let's keep the streak going.

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We've also started tracking our picks since everybody got in on the partner packs. Well, almost everybody. Let me see. Let's take a look. Almost everybody. Gil, 31 for 39 in picks. Ugh. 80%...

2.6 times your breadwinner. This ain't it, man. Can you still hold firm at 80%? 6 or 8? There ain't enough picks, though. Yeah. I went 15 and 2. 24 and 0 yesterday. You still part of your 31 and 39? Nah. 6 or 8, hold on. That's 3 for 4. That's...

Only because... So, I guess I did one on Sunday. I did one on Sunday. It went three and one, but they didn't add it because they didn't get to add it to the site. Now, that shit count. That went three and one. When is Nick going to make some picks?

Swaggy still holding out. Bashaw, six for seven, 86%. He's won 6.2 times his bread. Brandon still hard and firm, six for seven. I'm going to get the seven for seven tonight. 100% seven point seven times your bread. And still hard and firm. Six percent. I get to seven for seven tonight. 100 percent, 7.7 times your bread. And as you pointed out, Swaggy, donuts across the board. Still holding out.

Yeah, did Jalen Hurts? They count yours like individually though. I'm saying? Yeah, the picks. So the picks are individual. Yeah, the individual picks, but you're 100 percent. So you've hit on both of your partner packs. Yeah, you've hit some 12 and over. Okay. Partner pack is maneuvering. As always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of every show.

You drop a good question in the chat with your underdog username. We use it on this program. $50 bonus to your underdog account. If you send us a video at mostlyfansdeal at gmail.com, we use that video on the show. $100 bonus to your account. If you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we audio versions available on apple spotify wherever you get your podcast so a lot to get into but first before we start uh just want to take a moment so gil uh i've been working with you now close to four years uh damn from no chill all the way anniversary yeah nah about you know i think october whatever it is but from no chill all the way the beginning of gil's arena we've had a lot of tremendous moments here on this program on this couch couch, abroad, at Summer League. But just want to take a moment,

I think yesterday for me, probably my favorite moment since working with you, being on this couch, to see Elijah get announced as 2025 McDonald's All-American. Just the emotion, the excitement. Remember him when he was 13, 14 years old when I first met you, just kind of rolling through the house, big lanky ass, just roaming around,

to now rolling out full McDonald's fit. But to see the look on your face, look on everybody else's on the faces, couch, and just the family aspect component of it. Okay, now I remember season one, Halloween, we all had to come dressed up. You found out KJ got traded, obviously very emotional at that point, still pulled up, wore his Halloween costume,

just to show your love. But you know, I just think about the things and the importance of family. So for me seeing that moment, probably my favorite moment, working with you being a part of this whole thing. And I think obviously cool for the chat and the audience and everybody to be able to share it with Elijah and to see him cheesing over there.

Big smile. Big smile. Yeah. Big smile. To know you set out to go to accomplish it. And that brings me to another announcement. So if you saw the news today, the entire cast is re-upped here on Gills Arena.

Shout out to Brett Wright. We're going to be keeping it going. Shout out to Jeremy Levine, everybody over at Underdog for believing in the vision. Shout out to all the fans who support the show to keep this thing moving, man. We really, really... Two more years.

We appreciate y'all. Y'all can't quit us now. We got a lot, lot, lot left to do, but have some great moments, some great moments to come. No, it's what's up. That wasn't in the script. I'm just saying, if they cancel us... Even when I'm about to have a skit.

It don't matter. It don't matter. We still gonna push live. Underdog, I'm about to go live. Newsroom would like to let you know that they are still waiting for their contract to be re-upped as well. We're gonna still push live. And we're going to go live no matter what.

You're going to see us whether you want to or not. Rain, sleet, hail, or snow. If you know one thing, you're going to be live at somewhere at some point in the day, every single day of the week. It's a fact. But let's get into it. So we got one of the more fun moments from last night's action. Klay Thompson showed the basketball world he can still get the microwave going on occasion.

Now, granted, it was against the Wizards, but it still counts. Let's see the highlights. Klay doing his thing. He came out the gate on fire, hitting seven threes in the first quarter in a win over the Wizards last night. Hey, man. That's a... That's how you get your shit right.

All it takes is two, three of them in a playoff series to get you to the finals. Look, good for the seed. Clay still got it. So he outscored the Wizards 21 to 16 by himself in that time frame, tying the second most threes he's ever made in a quarter in his career. So at this point, y'all don't want to put two on him.

It's the Wizards game. I get it, but at this, like, I understand who it is. But at some point, you got to pay him some attention. Some respect. I ain't saying you want to just flat-out change it, but at some point, you just want to pay small attention to him. Somebody on the floor. Coach staff might not tell you to do it,

but somebody on the floor, like, listen, man, I got it. I'm gonna face guard it. Listen, hey, y'all guard it. Hey, I'm gonna face guard it. Hey, whatever we got to do, I'm gonna run through a screen, listen, whatever. Something. Try. Try. Can you face guard now with the way the game is played?

Man, they been playing and ones out here. No. Oh, they have. In the league. I just thought about it, yeah. I seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm watching.

They playing box and, yes. They playing high school basketball. Box and one. I mean, that's how they play in high school. So he got it going like that. Yeah. Box and one, his ass. Who else out there winning?

Please replay this. Let's see it again. Let's see it again. I just want to. One time, Paolo? Please replay this. Let's see it again. Let's see it again. I just want to, one time, Paolo, please, if you. Shout out to, listen. Kyrie, Kyrie out there. Kyrie out there, right here. Still no looking.

Kyrie out there. Kyrie still out there. Look how they going, Kyrie, look. Hold on, go back, go back, go back, go back, go back. Go back, go back, go back. Let's start over, let's just start this shit over. Back it to the left. See, this is the problem, right?

Kyrie ain't nowhere in the play, right? Zero. Who you guarding, right? Right now. What is... Go back. Go back. What the fuck is Jordan Poole doing? And the guy that Jordan... Who the big that's guarding Spencer Dent with right now? Who is this guy? That's a good question, K.

Okay, cool. All right, go. As you know, it is the Wizards. Yeah, I'm about to say it's the Wizards. Clayton can shoot the shit out the ball. We do not care. No, I don't give a fuck. Clayton can shoot the shit out the ball. We all know that. Good defense.

No. Who is that, Jordan Poole? Jordan Gardner? Terrible. Good defense. Is that Poole trying to get in? Not really. Yeah, that's Jordan Poole. Now, hold on.

Back, back. See, this is the... Fuck all this, man. I guess they thought... This boy threw this ball. Look where Spencer Dinwiddie threw this ball from. Yeah, and you supposed to double that. Yeah. But look where this boy threw this ball from, man.

He supposed to throw... Yeah, you supposed to double that. Mm. He already got it going. They got 15. He already got it going. Mm. He out of the play and everything. Bring the camera. Spencer Dinwiddie. Impromptu. Pass the ball from damn near half court.

Why this man ain't drop down? Oh. Not the next shot. Look, we are a live show, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, we are fucking live. We do what we do. And that's why you... Shout out to Clay. I ain talking about ain't taking nothing. This is what are you doing? Why you waiting now? Where's play now? What are you doing? You can't even you got it going already

Why you ain't nowhere new why you look why is there a closeout? He got it going already Jump him Jump him defensively. Jump him! Because Jordan Poole is on the court. You already know. He got it going. Let's pay him some attention.

Okay, Clay, keep shooting that goddamn face off. As I point out, those seven threes in a quarter is tied for the second most threes he's ever made in a quarter in his career. Of course, Clay once made nine threes in a 37-point quarter. Absolutely. We've seen it. Both NBA records. But after this came, Clay had this to say about busting the Wizards' ass. He said, when you do something like that, it reminds you that there's greatness still within.

So when you do something like that, it reminds you that there's greatness still within. It's the last thing to go. Unfortunately, the Warriors did not appreciate that greatness. Well, he got the best tool in sports you can have. You shoot. That's the last thing to go. And that's why it's so weird that he's been struggling. That's why it's like, this is all mental.

But whatever... You know what I mean? It's more mental than anything, because you're talking about a guy who probably put up 500,000 shots a day. The only people that didn't know... This shit is here. The only people that didn't know this shit was gonna come out of this was the fucking Warriors. Mm. I think that's what it was, yeah.

The mentally... I think it's just mentally... He was checked out in Oakland. Golden State, he was checked out. Yeah, you know, once you're checked out, it's... They was checked out. You know once you checked out it's They've been fucking with him for a year now. You've been fucking me for you. I'm not mental not right around here And they put so much pressure on every shot. I don't mechanics like whatever it is right with him Come on, man. They still don't have Luca yet. Shoot the shit out there ball. We I mean history has shown

When a player is trying to play for his contract, it don't look very well, right? Especially if it's- For some. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like- For some others. Your first contract, yeah,

motherfuckers out there. But like, you know, like something that's gonna finish a legacy. We seen how this look, we see how Jimmy Butler look. We can see when a motherfucker's out here stressing. Yeah. You've seen how this look we see how Jimmy Butler look we can see when the motherfuckers out here stressing Yeah, you know it ain't hmm. Yeah So clay shooting

39% from three this season 41.2% career shooter Perhaps the most interesting staff in that game seven threes in the first quarter 21 points finish the game with 23 points, of course Okay 21 points. Finished the game with 23 points. Of course. Okay. I mean, they did something different. They did something different. They started guarding them different. I'm trying to go for 84. Yeah, they smacked them.

Oh, yeah, so? They started guarding them different. I guarantee you go show the rest of that game. It was what I was saying just now. The coach was like, hey, listen, who over there coaching? It was like, hey, man, he got it going. Let's pay him some more attention here. Like, he shouldn't for the end of the quarter for that to kick in as players.

It was funny. When the playoffs come, all he need is a couple quarters like that through a series that just changes everything. Like, it just – because, I mean, with Clay, you already know. If he hits his first shot, this could be one of these. It can be a heater, right? It's like once he hits his first one, it's either fire mode or fire. But even the fear that he is on that floor is enough

because you have to defend it different when he's out there. You have to defend the Mavericks different when you have Luka out there and Kyrie and Klay. You have to defend them different. I don't care what, like, you have to. Because at any given moment, he can get it going as he's proven. He can get that shit going in the quarter.

We already know what the mother's too capable of doing, right? But if he get it going, it's a different. It's scary. It is very different because unlike the other ones, this one you can't actually really game plan for unless you go to halftime and try to change it. Like, there's no loading up on Klay. Like, he's coming off screens.

If you're an inch behind him, he's shooting that shit. So it's not like there's dribble. We're going to trap him. We're going to do it. Like, and when he's making it, they're seeking him, and that becomes the problem. So when he's on fire, he actually is the most dangerous player on the court. And you really have to play one-on-one basketball because you can't help. No, they're going to be dangerous in the playoffs.

Now, he is the most like whenever somebody's on fire or you're losing, you worry about him. With Luka, he's going to give you a chance. He's going to sit here and bop with you. His time is elapsing with the mother guys, not with him. Not with him. He scored 11 dribbles, man. With Curry and Kevin Durant. Like, that should have told us everything.

Anything we needed to know. Yeah, 61. The third option, 60? God damn. With 11 dribbles. Yeah. So, Clay, fifth all-time. That's the most impressive shit ever.

Fifth all-time three-pointers made Just going 60 points with the with Kevin Durant and Curry on the floor Yeah, like they're actually in the game. That's that's none. That's not heard of that's all good. That's all good That's not heard of right? So I say clay fifth all-time career three-pointers made but missed 137 games during that stretch due to injury. So... Come on. ...odds are it'll be a little bit higher. Can you talk about the fear you have to have when a guy like Clay is on the court as a defender?

But where is Clay on your list of the top shooters ever? Oh, he's one of the... Top five. Top five. One of the greatest shooters ever. Yeah. Like, it doesn't... The mechanics don't change. The results are high. He is one of few people that I could say to me...

Well, I watched a lot of basketball, like, seen a lot of shooters, a lot of people that couldn't shoot, could shoot, became shooters. He's one of the few people that every time he shoot it, it looks like it's good. Like, some people are like, oh, that's a terrible fucking shot. For him, it could be a bad shot, but it's on line because his mechanics don't ever change. Right? He's going to get scored every single time. Yep. So, he's one of the few people.

Him, Allen, Houston. There's certain people that when they shoot, he like, oh, that's Bucket. Right? Might be short, might be long, but it's on line every time. And yeah, so he is top five, one of the greatest shooters that ever played this game. Obviously, Klay in this time of the war is overshadowed by Steph and everything he's been doing,

but better shooting form in your opinion, would you give Klay the nod over Steph just in terms of what the form looks like? If you're teaching a form, it's easier to teach Cla- I mean, it's harder to teach Klai's, because that's perfection every single time, but mechanically, he- it's easier to try to follow his mechanics than his steps.

Yeah, absolutely. Right. Because this is like, everything is square, it's straight up every time, it's not gonna deviate. Oh yeah, if you're gonna follow- I mean, gonna see he might be top three just because of his just because of his like like he ain't gonna stop shooting like that's the thing like like that's the like that's the scary thing about him

athleticism leaves first like if he's in a like if he's in a shooting competition like it's gonna be hard not to be like put your money on clay because so who would you who would you put it welay. Because. So who would you put in? We know Step. Who else would you put in front of Klay? As a shooter? Just greatest pure shooters. For me, I'm going to have, you know, you got to have Bird, Reggie.

Because even though, like, when it comes to shooting and being great at it, there has to be situations like game winners and stuff. And I don't know how many times he got to really just finish games and hit game winners like a Reggie Miller and a Bird. Yeah. So I will have them in front of them and probably keep him at four or five I'm looking at let the ladies shooting for him they say he had no game winners in his career remember because he's a second option is not her option

right his fault yeah I got a the opportunity hasn't been there for him to that's the only reason it's not because I'm like he's not capable It's just I got to give the guys who's cry I got it, you know, you got it when you think of like Reggie you have the moment Instilled in your brain of what he did to New York, right? You have those moments of greatness at the end, you know nine points in a couple seconds Like you know the mean or eight points in a couple seconds like you know those moments I don't I don't have it clay. I got the 60 points in 11 dribbles

But when it came to the end of the game unfortunately because where he was on a rotation So you why you just talk about just shooting the ball, but just shooting the ball flat out Yeah, just shooting the ball flat out shooting that bitch because I'm because I'm sure if he had that opportunity like I'm sure But I can't just give it to him See if somebody come to mind, like, when you just flat-out shooting, like, nothing else, motherfucker like Steve Novak. Bruh.

Hey, man. The belt. Dog. Hey, man. Talking about a release. Yeah. Fast, efficient. Yeah.

6'9", 6'10". If Steve Novak could guard anyone... Anyone who'd have been on the court? Huh? Oh, he can play today, though. Yes, Lord, he could. Yeah, absolutely. Steve Novak would make a whole lot of money

in today's NBA. How good was Kyle Corver? Shoot it. He didn't get that bitch off fast. Listen, Jason Capono. Steve Novak, dog. Taller than both of them. How good was Cal Corvert? Shoot it. He didn't get that bitch off fast. Listen. Jason Capono. Steve. Taller than both of them.

Yeah, yeah. I'm just trying to think about, like, Capono. Yeah, Capono had a clip. Yeah, but. Steve Nash. I mean, Steve Nash is a fucking shooter. But they don't call him Game 6 Clay for nothing. Nope.

Right? Well, no, I'm just thinking of just flat out shooting that ball. Vashon Leonard. Absolute. Mark Price. Is that Denver? He was with me in Denver. Vashon Leonard. Absolute. Mark Price. Is that Denver? He was with me in Denver. He was there before you, right?

He was when I got there. I remember him. No, Volant. Yeah. Yeah, shoot the shit out that ball. So Volant had one of them quarters? How many Volant have in the quarter? 29, 27, 29, 30, something like that?

What's funny is... 31 in the quarter? Because we play with these guys, we know who shoots that shit. Yeah, yeah that shit. They just didn't get the opportunities to be out there just gunning. Yeah, Vashon Leonard, we had like 30. Let me see. Yeah, it's up there. And Andre Miller.

Curly Ray Allen? And Andre Miller should have shooting games against Vo Leonard. Like Ray Allen, I know he was. Hunter Ray. Ray, period. And Andre Miller should have shooting games against Volan. Like Ray Allen, I know he was. You know Ray? Ray, period. The only thing with Ray is, I even asked someone who's part of the shooting, was part of Boston, they said because how he lifts,

when he did like 100 shot challenges, he'll have like 86. He'll die out. And then 60 something. Yeah, he'll die out. Yeah, because he jumps so much I out and then 60 something yeah die out Yeah, because he because you don't jump so much. No he fatigues himself Jump shoot. Yeah, he was a yeah. Yeah. He was like Courtney Alexander. Yes, and motherfuckers every time like do yeah Yeah, let it go. Yeah, them calves be getting a soaring and stuff So it was yeah, like if he's one of those guys is like you do a you do a tournament and

You got to keep shooting a couple times that day Yeah, and right Rick Raker shoot it, but that's like Ray was complete basketball player. Yeah, he was he just he was athletic Yeah, let it get shit could put yeah, he did a lot So the fact that he's on that three-point list is amazing. He can shoot it, but he did so much more. What about Dame Willard? Dame?

Yeah. He shoot the shit out of it. It's effortless. Because he's up there in the top. But it's effortless. He don't use no effort to shoot it. He don't jump. effort to shoot it. He don't jump.

He ain't shooting that much. That's what I'm saying. In a shooting competition, he'll be up there. Dirt. I mean, you got to... But I mean, just when you just think about it, he's top five. McMood. No, for sure.

Mm. Shout out to McMood. Shout out to McMood. So to answer your question for Sean Leonard, once once had 22 points in the quarter in 1995. Denver game. Denver. Ooh. Hold on. They pulling it up. I wouldn't know about fucking him scoring that many in 1995. I was in high school.

Fuck. Okay, you are an astute basketball historian. I am, but I wouldn't. Would not fucking... Nah, y'all got to tuck y'all chains change there for that no, I'm just kidding. I always Can't leave That can shoot come through this thing man. Can you when you leave we be talking to you, but let's keep this thing moving Oh, yeah, I had a conversation yesterday

We talked about it before me you shall I talked about The getting drafted things staying in school versus not staying in school does stand up I was watching y'all yesterday. So the stand in school help you get better and you chimed in you ain't never been to school So you can't talk on it. Mm-hmm. So what pick was you? 31. So how many years did you go? Two.

So if you were to win one more, when they was drafting us back then, if you were to win one more year, right? Mm-hmm. Would you have the ball in your hand a little more? No, because our point guard was, he was All-American McDonald's. Who was that?

Jason Gardner. So you would have to play the two? Mm-hmm. Y'all came in the same year, right? Yeah, we came in the same year. Oh, so, okay. Cool, that's even better. Even better for my argument.

So you would have played the two? Mm-hmm. So you got drafted 31? Mm-hmm. Do you think if you would have stayed another year, it would have helped the draft stock? Probably the stock, but the game, no. Not the game. I didn't ask you that.

The stock? Yeah, I mean, if I would have. So you would have won first round? Yeah, if I would have. Lottery, maybe? If I wasn't acting ass, I would have won first round. No, no, without no answers, I'm talking about your basketball game. No, if I wouldn't have acted ass in a pre-draft, I would have won a lottery.

That's why I came out. I was just being me. But another year under your belt with what you knew already. You had two years under your belt. You come in. Your third year, you're feeling yourself. You've gotten better. You've helped your stock. You come in your third year, you're you're feeling yourself. You've gotten better. You've helped your stock. You've got, right, you come in your third year.

So you, you're going to average more. You're going to get more shots. Your coach will believe in you more. You're going to get more minutes, all these things, right? Because you've gotten better. They believe in you more. Now it's time for you to get drafted. People not looking. Now you got another year. This is the progression

we've seen freshman year Mm-hmm sophomore year junior year, right? Just three years of you being Right whether it's two-point jump 17-point jump whatever they see you get better So, how can you be on the other side of that now, though? Like, your development would have mattered if you stayed in school. Because what happens is... When I get drafted, everything is still, no matter what, still faster, still stronger. And I still had to transition from being a two to being a point.

All those things still exist. Yes. But you are more prepared for it. Because you got another. I got another. You've grown, but you're not saying that you are ready for it. But you are more prepared than you were as a sophomore when you got drafted 31. That extra year of growth development prepared you more.

In their eyes, in the people that's picking your eyes, you are more prepared. Not to say that you're ready. Me, four years. Came out of high school the same year as Kobe. Same year, 1996. Steven Jackson, all of the same. 1996 high school class. My freshman year, here.

My sophomore year. My junior year. Them dudes going into their fourth year, right? I came in as the what? Number one pick. My growth while they were, it was the same. So my rookie year, I was prepared, I was ready. In their eyes, the people that was picking eyes. Darius Miles, same draft, right? Conversations of maybe him, but... And that's where it comes in at. As long as there's a but there, right?

I'm coming off of broken leg, torn ligaments in my ankle. They'd rather take this chance rather than draft this guy because I'm more prepared. I'm ready. I ain't saying I'm ready, but I'm more prepared for the moment than he is. His upside was, in their mind at the time, drafting a 17, 18-year-old kid, like you're saying, right? You take the younger guy, but the younger guy can't help.

You give us three years with him. But what if I take you and put you in the draft no matter where you get drafted as a sophomore. As a sophomore? Yeah, and now instead of sophomore in college junior senior what is your development being in the nba lifting nba weights playing against nba practices because what did you turn out but what the patients are not there back then it was the patients are not no i'm just saying they gave me two years i'm just saying as a player those two years from my sophomore year to my senior year, if I were to put my name in as a sophomore,

offensively, I couldn't do nothing with the ball. No, probably, no, I'm just saying- So their patience as a pro is less than patience as Bob Huggins as a college coach. No, no, I get that. Telling me you need to work on this, right? And there's a step to it. Okay, you need to work on this next. You need to work on this. There's no expectations from Bob

Huggins, right? Because I'm still doing the defense and rebounding, so that's enough for me to keep my scholarship and for him to keep his job because we're winning. If I'm a pro those two years there are expectations there for me to get better and if i don't i'm not in the league anymore no

what i'm saying is there's none because you're younger so i'm saying if i just give you three years i think these these are empty years for you College or three years in the pros, those three years? As a basketball player, which one you think will be better by 22? The one who's been practicing and playing in the NBA for three years, working against NBA talent, or the college kid? When y'all match up against each other. Yeah, who's the more me? Okay, no, think about think about what you lived at a sophomore year versus what you're doing Just I mean the step over there is but I'm talking about him. Just talking about we started the same point, right?

So we start the same point the kid that's in college when we working on I'm able to work on my game, right? But I'm learning the fundamentals of how to stop you. Right? They're not teaching you defense, individual defense, them three years as you a pro. They're not doing it because they don't have time to.

So I have an advantage. When I came in, I had an advantage over Strohmeyer-Swift. I had an advantage over Darius Miles. I had an advantage over those guys. The advantage was the defense and the progression that I had for them four years, me learning these things. I was the defensive player of the year in the conference before I was player of the year in the conference.

You know what I'm saying? I became player of the year in the conference because I started scoring the basketball. I would start at the same point, the same development. The college kid is going to learn more and be more prepared. For college basketball? No, no, for basketball. Over anything?

Over them, that product. That time. No, just in that period, now. If a kid go out of high school, go to Europe. Zach Needy is more prepared to play. If a kid go to Europe, go out of high school, he's going to be way more prepared. No, he's not. Yes, he is.

No, he's not. Yes, he is. That's why I went top ten. No, but you said that work was done before you got there. I was prepared. No he's not. Yes he is. No he's not. Yes he is. That's why I went top 10. College? Because I was prepared. Brandon, that work was done before you got there. I was prepared. I was prepared. I was prepared. Brandon, I'm not finna let you sit and tell me. I'm just letting you know. You went overseas and didn't fucking play. And I came back prepared. That's why I went top 10. Because I came back prepared. If I went to college, I probably don't go top 10. Brandon, that work was done before you went overseas, Brandon. If I went to college, I probably don't go. Brandon, that work was done before you went overseas. Your name and your game was established before you went overseas.

But college basketball. You wouldn't have the opportunity to go overseas if your name and game wasn't already established, Brandon. Trust me. But what I'm saying is, no matter what age you come into the NBA, if you come in at 22 or you come in at 18, both of you guys are learning what the NBA is for the first time. We're talking about basketball.

No, what I'm saying is you're learning what the NBA is for the first time. And what is the NBA, though? One-on-one, speed, athleticism. We're talking about basketball. Different concepts. But you're learning whatever language you're learning, you're learning at the same time. So whatever you're learning in your first year at 22,

I'm learning at 18, 19. so by the time i turn 22 think about where i am compared to where you were at 22 that's how they judge it right so we both had three years 22 i was offensively ready defensively ready strong by year four i was an all-star, right? Should have been one in year three. And we're talking honesty, right? Some people fit that. By year three, they're an all-star. By year four, they definitely.

Some people fit that. But there's more that's not because they're not prepared. There's more guys that don't make it, that didn't go to college, than guys that do. Because you have to do more with the complete game of basketball. And then we can move on from it. But we think about Zach Eady. We talk about Zach Eady, right? If Zach Eady went to school, right talk about Zach Eadie, right? If Zach Eadie played,

went to school, right, the same amount of time, if he was dominant the way he was and he played a different position, he is, he's not the number one option on his team now. He's not the number two option on his team now.

He's not the number three option on his team now. He's not the number four option on his team now. He's not the number two option on his team now. He's not the number three option on his team now. He's not the number four option on his team now. If he was a different position, that changes with the domination that he had in college. You look at Jalen Brunson, dominant. He didn't get that. He had that when he went to Dallas. Mm-hmm. Where did he get that from? College, high school, his dad.

College. He had a good college coach. But they won and he won at learning how to. What do we say about the Villanova guy? But you know that's, that's, that's, okay. What do we say about the Villanova guy? But you know that's... What do we say about the Villanova guy? What you're saying is that's now a rarity where the older guy actually pans out. It does. You're right. You're the last senior to go number one.

And if Zack Eady played a different... A lot of people thought Zack Eady wouldn't get drafted. First round, late, second round. Not nine. No, no one thought nine. No one thought Zack, second round, not nine. No, no one thought nine. No one thought Zack Eady would get picked ninth. But the people in Memphis thought something different. If Zack Eady played a different position where he had the ball in his hand and he wasn't reliant on Ja Morant, Bain, the other guys to have to get him the ball,

or if the game was played like the... If they featured Zach Eadie, he'll average a... If he got the minutes some other guys get and they featured him, he would average a double-double because he knows how to score on the block. Can't nobody stop him. He makes free throws. He makes free throws. It makes free throws in me and It's bad. He's seven for Gil. I get it the toughness. He shoots the ball

Well, he makes free throws and he knows how to score if you feature him on the block There's no one that's stopping him in NBA The same thing we said about Joel Embiid. He's unstoppable. Zach Eady is unstoppable if you give him the opportunity to be unstoppable. Because no one knows, in this NBA that we speak of,

no one knows how to play post-defense. Yeah, everybody's shooting threes. So if you give him the ball and opportunity, if Zach, you're getting 15 shots a night. You're getting 30 minutes a night, 15 shots,

15 to 20 shots a night. Guaranteed. He is the dominant player that you are looking for because he's older. He would be that. He's not getting the opportunity to show that. be that he's not getting the opportunity To show that in college they gave him the opportunity to be two-time

Wooden war wouldn't award winner they gave an opportunity to do that He is prepared to play now just like The guy in Washington. He's young. Yes. Good the guy Atlanta good. All those got castle Yes, all the guys that y'all talked about yesterday. Do you gotta got they got drafted aside? Yes But given the opportunity to do what he did in college There's no doubt in my mind because he understands and then I played the game when I probably worse on both ends of the floor He honest because he's been this size. They've had to coach that up. They've had to coach him to the best of their ability

because he has deficiency because he's so big, right? He understands his size. He understands space. Wimby understands the same thing. They've been this size. They know how to play. If he get the same opportunity, the same look, and the same love that people show Wimby,

it just looks different because he's not shooting threes. And to say that this other guy do this better because he's younger, you go to college to get better. You need to learn how to play basketball. So are you saying that guys need to go to college? Some guys absolutely, Gil. Brandon, yes. Because a lot of these guys have deficiencies

and they're not going to become good pros. Paul George probably could play defense at a high level before he got to college, but he perfected that shit in college. Kawhi Leonard, the same thing. They've long arms, can move their feet, but they learned angles and how to cut a motherfucker off

and do these things in college because they had a coach teach him. Oh, he got great attributes. Look at his fucking arms. He's moving his feet. Oh, shit, wait till I get him. I can teach him this.

So you think Cooper Flagg is learning a lot in college right now? Yes. That's going to help him. He could already score. Listen, he could already athletic when he got there. Could already score the basketball. Right.

So what is he doing that's different from heights? If he went longer, he was already athletic when he got there. Could already score the basketball. Right. So what is he doing that's different from Heisman? If he went longer, he'll learn more. He's not going to be there long. You can only learn a certain amount in his minute time. But how many players is he playing? Like, okay, when you think about college, it is like,

when you're talking about one-on-one, what other high-level player has Cooper Flagg had to play against? Because 30 nights or 82 nights, he's going against defensively and offensively. There's nothing that's going to prepare him for that because he's never going to see that guy. He wouldn't be prepared. And then like the kids. So you didn't go to college.

So you went to college, you went to college, right? You went to college to play basketball, right? I'm saying to play basketball. Technically, I was there. But you did drills and shit college, right? You went to college to play basketball, right? I'm saying to play basketball, not to play basketball. Technically, I was there. But you did drills and shit though, right? Yeah. You did drills, you did drills. I did drills, you did drills.

Raised the drill. We did drills overseas. But not to... No, Brandon, this is a different... College coaching is not overseas, so stop fucking putting yourself in this. It's better. It's better. Stop putting yourself in this. It gets you prepared. I'm just letting you know.

You didn't do it, Brandon. Right. Because college wasn't going to get me ready for the NBA. So I'm speaking on... That's you. And a lot of other kids. Speak on what you know. Why are we talking about college? Speak on... Because I went to school four years and I was no more a pit because of what the fuck we're talking about here. It's what I want to talk about. It ain't what you want to talk about,

nigga. Quit putting your fucking self in the conversation. Because it ain't got shit to do with you. Well, I'm just saying, college ain't preparing nobody. It ain't what you want to talk about, nigga. All right. All right. Quit putting your fucking self in the conversation. All right. Because it ain't got shit to do with you. Well, I'm just saying, college ain't preparing nobody. It ain't got shit to do with you. You didn't go because you don't fucking know. College ain't preparing.

That kid that's going to BYU, he don't have to go to BYU. Did you do defensive drills? Yeah. When you was at UCLA, did y'all do defensive drills? Yes, we did. When you was at college, Sebastian, did y'all do defensive drills? Hell yeah.

I was at Cincinnati. I did defensive drills. Will yeah. I was in Cincinnati. I did defensive drills. Mm-hmm. Will it teach him how to guard fucking Kevin Durant? Absolutely fucking not. Mm-hmm. Will it teach him certain angles with certain people, how to move his feet?

He did closeouts every day. He doing this drill, that drill. In that regard, yes. If he has deficiencies defensively, this will help him somewhat. Ain't saying he gonna come in that motherfucking B. Kawhi Leonard. No. But it will help him to a certain degree.

DeMar Johnson could have went to college, could have went to the NBA fresh out of high school. Where did he go to school? To the University of Cincinnati. Why? They say this man needed to get stronger. He was a sixth pick in the draft. It's proof to going, reasons for people to do different shit.

They said DeMar Johnson could have went to the NBA after his junior year in high school. I was in his class. He went to school for a fucking reason. But you know the history is- Because everybody is different. The history is going against your argument, though. No. been I the research is the research has been shown though. I hear you but we talk so remember I'm in the class of all high school kids. So I'm so the Zack Edie thing is what I'm specifically want to get on because

that right It's going against everything that I'm sitting here saying but you can't get away from the fundamentals of teaching people how to play basketball. But sometimes, okay, so I asked Dwight. It was Dwight Howard and Okafor, right? Okafor was a seasoned college player. So I asked Otis, why did you go with Dwight? He said, he talked about age. He said, by the time Dwight is Ora for age the white would be a superstar yes so i have a

four years from now this kid would be a superstar he could be good but he's not going to be a superstar because he's not it at the age now so if i'm going to take a 22 year old am i going to take the 22 year old who's coming into the draft or the 22-year-old who's going to be a superstar in four years? And that's what he went with. Absolutely. Okafor won Rookie of the Year. Two years later, one was an All-Star by the age of 20.

But that particular... That year... Okafor was better. He was better. He was ready to play. He was more prepared. He's the number one pick. I don't need someone prepared to my team. Yes, absolutely, yes. But more prepared then, if you were to ask a different GM, like I said, if somebody else would have had to pick, they would have picked Okafor.

But that's what's... If somebody else would have had to pick, it just so happened that bonus had to pick But here what I'm here what I'm saying on how they're how the thought is. Mm-hmm. He's 22. Yes This is how prepared he is at 22. Yes. All right. Yes. This is 18. Yes. I have four years Before I have to match him. Yes to where he is right now. Yes So in four years, can I get him better than what Okafor is as a rookie if the answer is yes Yes, you have to go with the 18 year old. Yeah. Yes, so you're just saying four years from now I'm gonna see if I made a great decision. So I have four free years on it. I'm with you and that's that's just how to Go I'm with yes

No, so like you're saying you. When you're talking about being good, if you're older, you're talking about being Tim Duncan. So what did they do to Tim? You have to be great early. Great early, but what did they do for Tim Duncan? He was the number one pick. Option, right? David Robinson wasn't the number one option. Tim Duncan was the number one option option. Right? David Robinson wasn't the number one option when he, Tim

Duncan was the number one option. Right? If Zach, I'm sorry, Zach, he's ready to play right now as a rookie. If he was the number one option in Memphis, it'd look different because he's more prepared this year. He would be the rookie of the year like, like, um, Okafor was the rookie of the year, right? He would be the rookie of the year because he knows how to play right now. It could look different in four years. Absolutely what I'm saying, yes. But more prepared because he went to school

and he learned how to play basketball. They are very skilled. They learn the skill set, what they have when they come from France. They have that. They're tall, athletic, skilled. But they have a deficiency come from France. They have that. They're tall, athletic, skilled, but they have a deficiency to a certain degree.

Guys that's learning how to play, they don't have that. You know what I'm saying? So what you're saying, absolutely. In four years, Sark could be an all-star. Zach Eady could just still be averaging fucking 11. Fine, but he's more prepared today because he did what he

did in college and he learned how to play with that size they featured him so everything you're saying yes but to go to school you're learning you're going to get better and if you're doing that that mean that you're teachable you're coachable your aptitude for the game is great high. So all those things are is helping you Being a pro. Yes, you learn how to be a pro in real time. There's no better teacher than that I'm yes, I'll count as I did it I'm so there's no better teacher for to be in a pro but to learn how to play basketball Is what we're talking about? Yeah to be in a pro and learn how to play basketball is what we're talking about. Yeah. To be in a pro and learn how to play basketball.

You're learning how to play basketball by college coaches because their job is affected by teaching you because they want you to stick around for another year. You got better, so it's going to help my job. Them pros don't have that. You will be more prepared. Absolutely. But you might not have a fucking job to do it in in three years, is what I'm

saying. Because you have deficiencies. So. That's real. Alright, well. That's all. Yeah. Because we've been talking about this shit, and I heard y'all yesterday, and I'm like. You were the last draft. Senior, yes. You were the last draft, because I think

what ended up happening after your draft, because I think what ended up happening after your draft, the study of the Kobe's Kevin Garnett and the Tracy McGrady was coming in. I had a 0-1-0-2. Kobe was successful. Garnett was successful. Jermaine O'Neal was going into his own. And T-Mac was going in. So when my draft was coming,

they just went a whole, whole motherfucker, let's go young. I mean, um... It was theirs, mine. Yours, yeah, yours was still kind of like, it was still borderline. You had one or two young guys in the top, um... It was only one high school kid.

And then it was still, like, young, but mine, we had... Um... two young guys in the top. It was only one high school. High school, yeah. And then it was still like young, but mine, we had, you had Tyson, Eddie Curry. Eddie Curry, oh yeah, y'all. We had Jason Richards, it was two years,

but we had Jop Deop. Yep. And we had a young kid from Griffin, right? So our whole class, like... Oh, y'all had all Bs, too. Oh, no, yeah. The first point guard went, damn near 20-something.

So it was just all young bigs coming out. So you're the first four picks, all high school guys. Yes. I remember that draft. It went back to back. Yeah. It was just clean up. That's where Jop Diop came in at.

Before the first eight. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, so it was a young person, Draft, and, you know, sitting there asking the questions and why are they doing this, why are they doing that, and then trying to understand what people are seeing. Like, I don't see it. And it was like...

It was... It was like three years from now, four years from now is when we're going to judge them. It's like they have a free four periods to try to figure it out. And I'm like, oh, that's crazy. I dig it. Because before them, obviously, you look back in history, obviously, the older you were, you were better, like the senior and the junior.

Yeah, there's more, and trust me, there's more unsuccessful stories of guys trying it than there are more success stories. The younger guys. Was Corleone Young in your draft or that was before all that? After. No, before. Corleone Young, was he, shit.

It was, that was. 99 draft? Yeah, that was that. 98, 99? Yeah, okay, yeah, so. Yeah, it was some big misses in that. Ninety-nine draft? Yeah, that was that. Ninety-eight, ninety-nine? Yeah, okay, yeah. So, yeah, it was some big misses in that. Ninety-nine, ninety-eight. Ninety-nine, ninety-eight.

And then that one kid that put his name in, the big white kid. Oh, no. Robert Swift, the big redhead kid. He came in after, yeah. Fucking mistake. That was the white number. The white number, they had like, everybody left the McDonald's. That was a goddamn mistake, man.

Remember, that's when J.R. Smith and all them came them... Who let that boy put his name in the draft, man? And then when J.R. Smith and all them came out, after that McDonald's thing... J.R. Smith, yeah. Sebastian, that's when it just went crazy. And then they was like... Yeah, they changed the rule right after that. They was like...

They was like, yo, yeah, we went to NBA camp. They was like, yeah, y'all got to wait a year. All right, well, let's see. Yeah, because they were fucking Robert Smith's Swift shit. Yeah, he was in that. He was like, all right, now, who let wait a year. Yeah, because the fucking Robert Smith, Swift shit. Yeah, he was in that. He was like, all right, now, who let him in? It was that McDonald's game. See, that's the problem, right?

The McDonald's game. The fucking McDonald's game that everybody think they do. The McDonald's game is an all-star game. It's a kid count that as actual. J.F. Smith was shooting three from half court, remember? When you got motherfucking 1,400 people in your town, and you average your motherfucking 62 in high school, yeah, you're going to be at McDonald's.

And Sonny over there kissing everybody on the cheek. You know what I'm talking about? You're going top. You're going lottery. You're like, shit. I ain't got no kids, man. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Got to talk about an important topic in the basketball world.

Anthony Davis, who absolutely dominated the Hornets last night. Let's take a look at some highlights. AD had 42 points and 23 rebounds in the game, including 21 and 11 in the first quarter alone against the contender adjacent, Charlotte Hornets. He was 17 for 28 from the field in 37 minutes, 8 of 10 from the free throw line.

So LeBron had 22 points, 8 assists, 7 rebounds in the game, in which the Lakers never trailed. And the best third option in the NBA currently, Austin Reeves, has 17 points as well. You may also know him as Lemon Daddy if you live in Los Angeles and you've seen the billboard. This is him at the 5. So Charlotte lost a mellow ball to an ankle injury

in the second quarter, which didn't help, of course. We'll have more on that later. But back to AD. Fifth career 40-20 game, most of any player since 2000. Shout-out to Black and Miles, baby. Shout-out to Black and Miles. Black and Miles, baby. Yeah.

Where the bud at? Put that in your pipe and smoke it. Yep. Shout-out to Black and Miles, also known as Dorian Finney-Smith, also known as Dodo. That's my guy. That's my new guy right there. So, Brandon, you are still on the outside

looking in of the Lakers bandwagon. We have room for you still. We have your spot reserved. First class. All the amenities you could possibly want. Can the Lakers rely on this version of AD for the rest of the season? As long as they stay at the five.

You like the five? Yeah. I mean, no, mean no for real like we was just talking about yesterday when he play at the five He's he's dominant can't nobody guard him. So and it's not like he playing against Top bigs every every night so him at the five looking like this and he's just look more aggressive Right. So maybe whatever talk he had, you know, i gotta i just want to ask him the question about why does he want to be at the four does he want to be at the four for defense um like because we we see what you're doing against these fives right like you just you murdering them for the last three years, right? So I'm trying to figure out defensively, is it, is it better for you? Or offensively, is it better

for you? Because you're, you're the biggest four. I don't think he want to wrestle. Even though it ain't a lot going on at the five position. I was going to say, he ain't wrestling. But, but to have to box the motherfucker out and all that shit, every position, I don't think he's trying to do that. Because I'm like're right okay like who's that i mean i mean i mean he is injury yeah most of the five i don't think he's trying to do that part i mean what fives do we have we have yokich and bead but everybody else is bam is bam a four or five so he gonna bully through bam he's saying he's bigger than man yeah he gonna bully through bam. Then you got Wimby now. I just think it's the... Or Zingas.

It's the guys that's not named them that's a problem. Because I'm like the four. Like, you got Giannis. You got that damn... KD. Towns, KD. You got some people. You got Benchero.

You got all of them. Like, I don't want to guard them up. Mobley. Like, I don't want to guard them. You got what's-his-name in Minnesota? Randolph? Randolph, yeah. Randolph, like, I don't.

Them motherfuckers in Houston, they got a motherfucking guard playing the four. I don't want to guard them. Shit. Like, I'm trying to figure out what is the benefit of trying to go to the four. He shot the shit out there. Because who at the four in Boston?

Huh? Who's at the four in Boston? Huh? Who's at the four in Boston? Is it Tatum? Jalen Tatum? Yeah. What you want to do? Tatum at the four? You don't want that.

Like I see offensively, yeah, you get to bully through some of these guys, but defensively you out there in the wing, goddammit. You think the Lakers can rely on AD to beat this guy if he stays? At the five, yeah. At the five position. I mean no from the numbers and everything it looked like it's working Cuz wait as Brian at the four that one plays. He's Now you got a so so is that why then because he wants it more you got to put him at the three is brought to Well now It was a conversation really bronze said when he's at the 4 and 80's at the 5, we are...

So it's... Maybe they just need to get... By size, yeah, LeBron is the 4 if you want him by height, but... How tall is Rui? About the same height as LeBron. 6'8", 6'9", right? And Austin Reeves? 6'7".

Connect? 6'6". 10. He that tall? Connect like 6'6", 6'7". 6'7". Connect? 6'6". 10. See that tall? Connect like 6'6", 6'7". Connect taller than that, ain't he? Connect 6'6". 6'6". I thought he was taller.

So he's 6'8". Yeah, Rui's 6'8". Yeah, they play basketball in shoes, so. Yeah, so I'm trying to figure out what... Do we include the shoes when we say the height? You play basketball in shoes. No, the only people who use their shoes is guards. Okay.

Right? Motherfucker be... You include the shoes when we say the height? You play basketball in shoes. No, the only people who use their shoes is guards. Okay. Right? Motherfucker be, if it say 6'2", he's 6'2 with his shoes on. Okay. Right? You know what I mean? Like, you don't put your shoes on because you want every inch.

The normal, when they say your height, that's without your shoes. That's barefoot, right? And those stats is only used when they get you at what's-her-name camp. Media Day? No, not Media Day. Combine. Somebody like Kevin Durant, Braun, Melo,

Jason Taylor, all these young guys who came in at 18 that's still growing, you don't have an update from them. If LeBron is 6'8", they're not going to update you, right? They not gonna update Kevin Durant. It don't benefit them. So you just gonna get out there and see for yourself that these motherfuckers bigger than that height. But why does it not benefit? If I'm a guy and I've grown, if I'm like a KG and I've

grown from 6'10", 6'11", to 7'1". Because KG, like why does he care? How does it benefit him? You show your ass and put me at the center cuz I'm seven one like fuck that I'm 16 and I'm gonna play the four Like you'd be like you'd be surprised you get on that court like yo motherfucker how tall are you? Oh for real like no seriously I've seen some guys. I don't know if they keep growing as they keep whatever's in the medicine But Laney is brawn in the playoffs, right? Antoine is 6'9". LeBron got him in the post. LeBron is towering a dude.

And I said, hey, is he, did he grow? And I'm like, yo, LeBron looks like he's taller. And he's like, I don't know. And then, you know, Jared's 6'11". That motherfucker said, nah, nah. And we had to put Jared on the whole time so he wouldn't post up no more. Yeah, and to it, that motherfucker,

that, this shit here. He all like this, and motherfucking Twan sitting there, motherfucker looking. And I'm sitting there like, man. Twan, no action with that. He want nothing to do with it. I mean, that's why you think Jason Tatum is the four. Like, he ain't 6'8".

Not at all. He's a lot. I think he's like 6'10". Yeah. But you know, but also Nike shoe contracts, right? Like, y'all don't buy big man shoes, right? Like, y'all don't. Anybody that's over 6'0".

Giannis is probably the only person that sells being over 6'9". I used to buy or eight days back in Iraq he didn't yeah I'm gonna say Katie how tall is Kevin rent 69 because he were 18 he's a guard he's a guard he doesn't care yes but it was like I guess the study back then like nobody sold nobody sold shoes over 6'9", so everybody was capped off at 6'9". Real ones had the Patrick Ewing's. That was a Nike thing.

Despite your, uh, analysis. I heard that, too. You heard it right? I heard that. Real ones rocked their kids back then. That's why, yeah. No bigs have signature shoes, man. We was rocking the Twisms and all that good, the Shaq Reeboks, the Sean Kips.

Like, Luka 6'7". Yeah, he was...s, the Sean Kemp. Like Luka 6'7". Yeah, he was... And Sean Kemp. And Luka was 6'7". And one's running like... And they were rocking. Kamikazes. Have you seen Luka up close?

I have not. Oh. Luka? Have you? Yeah, Luka, yeah. He all over 6'10"? Yep. He looks it on the floor.

Man, that's what I'm saying. People be like, he's 6'7". Like, man, stop that Google shit, man. Like, you don't... Like, there's a reason they can't block that motherfucker shot. Like, do you know what 6'7". Like, man, stop that Google shit, man. Like, there's a reason they can't block that motherfucker shot. Like, do you know what 6'7'' look like? Clay is 6'7". Kyrie is what?

Kyrie was taller than me. Yeah. I don't know what's in the medicine. They be growing. Who the fuck is that? That's like 6'3". Yeah. Like, he's just small frame 6'3".

But they just like up here. They don't look like what's the name but luca like y'all think his step back and the reason like rudy gobert at seven foot can't get to it because he's just as big like these guys are not small guys the guys you see that's bullying everybody they're bigger than everybody like you stop looking at that oh he's six five and six six all right you know who i thought and I thought when I first something like God Devin Booker's taller than I thought and I was the one to like your Heidi heist like how you getting that shot Yeah, that's it. And that was the problem like six when I saw you like six six six seven

I'm like damn that's why you give me a shot off on the Big ass to big ass guys go. Big-ass guard. Like, I'm looking, yeah. Like, we were like, what do y'all think about that now? Like, when y'all see these guards, like, you know, like, 6'7", 6'8". It seems like it makes... Like, if they was, like, playing in y'all, like, y'all was playing in that era. You know what it is? Or this era. I guess because the heights look so normal.

And that's who you said? It looks normal, like, because of 6'3", 6'4", 6'4", like, I think it just makes the normal basketball player think he can make it until they see these motherfuckers is not actually that hype. Yeah, like, the first guard, I'm saying, like, when DeMar Johnson came to Cincinnati, dude, like, the first guard, like, my freshman year, we had Damon Flynn. Damon Flynn was 6'5", point guard, right? Uh-huh. I'm lefty.

I'm like, I fuck a point guard. Yeah then DJ came look at me damn out of six nine six ten like Yeah, don't do me and shooting that motherfucker with range. I was like, oh This is where this shit go and right And then then Matt, Trace was a year before, so we started,

I'm like, oh shit, this is the big card. Right now they got like Elijah about 6'5", 6'6", he's taller than Nick. Yes. He's like... Like my son's taller than Nick,

Nick is listed 6'7". I'm like, I'd rather you just keep saying you're 6'5", and then you get there and you motherfucker all the 6'8". When they measure you, that just... I mean, I'm 6'1".

So I remember when coming to the league, Steve Nash was like my height. Now it's like, ain't no point guards that size. Like, all the point guards, 6'3", 6'4". Like, it's not even... I think I went to the... Like, when I came in, you know how you're sizing yourself up? And I'm sitting there like, shooting guard, I'm small as hell.

The point guards like mmm oh they're still little so being a 6-4 point guy I was an advantage for me yeah you BD jay kid and BD short but he was just he played yeah he played he's strong as fuck who else you know I'm too big guard like y'all post up guards who y'all didn't mind posting up She had chance to use the post chance. Yeah, yeah fucking post physical Yeah, he got you on that block. He posted hella come here. Oh, yeah, he posting you up come here I like even you like like Brunson. I'm not gonna run around with you. No, not at all Brunson

Is he taller than you? Probably yeah, like how he plays, like, I guess how he says 6'1", so that means he's about, what, 6'3"? Yeah. 6'3", with his shoes on. Yeah. So, yeah, he ain't... Jalen Brunson, you think he's that tall?

I thought he was 6'1", 6'2". Yeah, I'm like... But it's with his shoes on, so he's probably all of 6'3". Because it's that he's 6'4". What is that he's 6'3", 6'4"? I got to see Jalen Bronson because he looks short. You know what it is? He looks short.

I want to see Ja. Because of this. I want to see Ja. It'd be this. It'd be this right here. They'd be stubby and like Rondo would look a little taller because he got long arms. And the shoulders. And the shoulders.

Wide shoulders, long arms make you look a little taller. Ronald like 6'5 out there. Yeah, he do look like 6'5. Until he dunked, he was like, yeah, he little. Until he got that hand. Until he do all that though. Let's get back quickly to Lakers discussion.

We had a spirited debate yesterday in the arena about whether or not AD was the number one option on this Lakers squad. That was a debate? Well, a discussion, debate, a talk. We all agree. He's the number one. So Gil, how comfortable are you with AD as the number one option?

You know what? I think we just give AD a hard time. I just think we just do it just to do it. You know, because it's like real dominant or you're injured, right? It's like there's like, we're not, there's not many games where we're like, oh, he was assed tonight, right? It's like, it's just like little shit that AD does that we realize, oh, see, here we go. You know, he fall, ankle, now he holding it up. Now you got to carry the motherfucker, stop the game for 30 minutes,

get the ambulance, right? You got to move the crowd, walk him through there. He's smiling doing this to come out five minutes later. Yeah, come right back in the game. Those be the little antics. Poked in the eye. Nipple twisted. It has nothing to do with his game. And it just makes it worse because he played for the Lakers, so we don't have patience. It has nothing to do with his game And and it just makes it worse that he played for the Lakers, but we don't have patience

So that's not to do with his actual game like his game is his he's been dominated It's just that little shit because as soon as he do something like oh Like everything I'm around watching like here we go again So what it's gonna be next that goddamn but it's when he's out there You can't deny what he's doing what he has done Since New Orleans to now I think the issue with him, especially with Lakers fans that fourth quarter. There's a tendency Ty recently that's only recently but it's been it's been a consistent thing I work because Braun has been so dominant

Yeah, y'all ain't paid if there was the thing y'all didn't have time to pay attention to but almost like you want to see ad be like yo give me the rock but you got but he was in no position to before but but that's that's called coach awareness you have to understand if somebody's checking out or floating and you got to try to nip it in the bud, right? If you know AD only does this in the fourth quarter, just like anybody, right? Usually I sub you out to start the fourth. You, Bron, sub out. Maybe I might have to start my fourth quarter different. AD, you start, right? I'm going to play you the first three minutes.

I need you to get off, right? So first five plays come to you. Maybe you hit two of them. Sub out. At least he's going to hit some buckets. And then when we bring him back in, he's active. Versus just letting him float around. He's coming in, trying to fill his way in.

And then game over and he's like, damn, he took two shots, two tips. Damn, what we been doing? So we all sitting on the bench before the fourth quarter start, who got the pad, what he's supposed to do. Yep. Right? This is what we said last, like, what playoffs when he only took them two shots, we said, you got to get to your point, got to get him involved, right? So it's coaching, like you said.

Draw up the first two players on the court any fucking way. Leave them out there. Draw up three, whatever you need to be, but hey, we're going to play through AD the first three possessions of the quarter. Whatever y'all call, he need to touch it. Yep. You ain't got to call shit, but, hey, whatever you call, he need to touch it. Yep. Just make sure you got it.

Yep. You're going to have to touch that bitch, you know what I mean? Right. Unless it's a fast break. That's it. If it's a set, out of bounds, turn, whatever the play is, to get Anthony Davis the ball. That's what need to be called the first.

You know that it is. The way the team is set up. It's coaching and it's personality, too, because you get. What, demand? I guarantee you, motherfucking Zach Randolph. Yep, yep. I'm going to run. You know what that clip did. And then on defense, when you cut through,

hey, pass the motherfucking ball next time down. Yeah. But he ain't never been that. I got your help. But he ain't never been that. Yeah, that part, right? But you got to... No, I hear you.

In order to become something, you got to change something, right? Do you think he can do it now in his career? The dude on his way out, man. There's no pushback. He's on his way out. There's no pushback. Like, LeBron is limited. They don't borrow time with LeBron James.

He got about five years left. Okay, whatever it is... Four years borrowed. Whatever it is... Borrowed time is crazy. You don't borrow time with LeBron James. Borrowed. He got about five years left. Okay, whatever it is. Four years borrowed. Whatever it is. Borrowed time is crazy. You don't borrow time with dude. Man, he's 40. Yeah.

Whatever you're doing, just keep doing it. At any given day, whatever, he can wake up tomorrow and say, I'm good. Shit, man. I ain't had my fill, y'all. He ain't going to do it, but he could because it's... Now, what are you... Now, you... So, yeah.

Bruh, yes. It is... Flip the switch. Shoot your way out of it. Shoot your way to... Hey, man, we need you to... We got a couple other guys we need, but let it be that. You two, let, mother, you two, let us come on this couch and be like,

God damn, man, these aggressive as a mother. Table 35. Yeah, hey, hey. I didn't reach for a time down. Hey, these motherfuckers, hey, double, triple T out there, he getting it, hey. Let us have that to say now, right? Like Colvin. I guarantee you. All right. out there, he getting it. Let us have that to say now, right? Like COVID.

Nobody's complaining about nobody being aggressive ever in the NBA. And this is the problem with player development. You have too many coaches on the sideline. Everyone has their own personal coach.

Now, I'm trying to figure out if you're 80s guy what the fuck are you saying to him because i'm i'm watching them right i'm taking my notes and i'm gonna let him know hey hey we got across the board mother 0 0 0 god damn it hey I need two more rebounds I need five this I like I'm gonna be coaching him throughout the game so he's always mentally active they're the first time out hey hey hey shit you got one rebound zero shot attempt zero points no blocks man come on man. Come on. You need to get me. I need six, three, and two.

All right, come on, man. Let's go. I don't give a fuck what the score is. I need to keep him activated, right? If every coach do their part to keep every, because just like anything, we get lost in the sauce sometimes. School, you motherfucking teachers talking,

and your ass wandering the fuck off somewhere over there thinking about some shit. I can't wait to reset. Oh, that motherfucker. We about to... That happens in the NBA, too, where we're just running through the motherfucking motions. So if you're a coach,

and these are your guys, keep them going. Talk to them. Right, BIA? This shit look like a motherfucking football field. Motherfucker, you got four niggas that just ah ah ah ah ah ah ah. Like college. They doing college? Four, three, two, you know what I mean? Like you know when a motherfucker got 45 and he

need to get to 50, who's gonna do it? A lot of these guys are like, I mean who are the guys, who are the coaches back there? Bro, they got a basketball team. They got enough people on the staff and stuff, man, but players got to sit on the back row. Yeah. Guys, players have to sit four benches, four chairs behind the bench. And what are they doing?

Nothing. So how many coaches is that? Is it more than what we had? Twelve coaches. Twelve coaches. They didn't have a coach for every player. We didn't have that many. Hell no. They got a coach for every player now.

Three and then... ...session coaches, this. So you got your player development guys. The normal ones. You got them, however many of them is them. You got four or five of them because they playing five on five. Five on five. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. We always have those. So you got four or five of them. Then you got your skill. You got the shooting coach. You got a couple of shooting coaches because you got...

Couple. You got a couple of them. You got your skill guys. You got your Rico Hines. You got the skill you got the shooting coach You got a couple shooting coaches because you got a couple got a couple of them got your skill guys You got your Rico Hines. You got the skill guy. I'll Rico got your fields on staff. Yeah He needed this he got a guy that work cuz he can't work out everybody. Yep You got it. That doesn't it. What's the three? front Daniels What's today? They like the top assistant being the second assistant in there you got them you got the assistant coach it was today. Yeah, then they had the top assistant, then the second assistant, then you got them, then you got the head coach. There's like 12 to 14 people.

A lot of fucking coaches. It wasn't that many, bro. I don't know. I was talking to Wes on cell, and he said, man, the only problem about being a coach now is your coaching job is very different than it was before.

He said, now, after every practice, I got to have a five- to ten-minute meeting with every developmental coach to tell me how they player is developing. He said, so I'm sitting here. What? In a meeting. How's Brandon Jennings doing?

Okay, okay. How many shots did he get up? How is McCann's doing? Okay, okay. How many shots did he get up? How is McKinney's doing? Okay, okay. How is Kenyon doing? He got to go through every fucking player guy. So he's sitting there spending an extra two hours talking about what everybody did today. And he said, I just want to coach the game.

So to do this, to go back and tell Joe Side, the game. So to do this. That's how many people I was just going to. To go back and tell Josiah, the head coach, yeah, Brandon shot 1,500 shots. He was shot 72% from this spot, 41% from three from the corner. He missed Thursday, Friday. He showed... Yeah.

Wild times. For you to go in that motherfucking steel, get the same amount of minutes that you was or you was not going to get. Listen, yo. It's out there. Let's keep this thing moving because we got some breaking news

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Huh? We're going to need it. We're a 30,000 credentialed therapist, so I got tons of options. Y'all need help, bruh. Y'all need help. All right, but let's get to some breaking news. Just came down the wire, courtesy of Shams from ESPN. Jimmy Butler what?

Nope. Nope. The Sacramento Kings are expected to open up talks to potentially deal all-star De'Aaron Fox ahead of the February 6th trade deadline. Oh, this is fucking real news. What you mean? This is some good news. De'Aaron Fox, Under Armour athlete,

legend. Get him out of Sacramento. So he can... There'll be plenty of suitors, but it's believed that Fox has a target destination in mind ahead of the 2026 free agency. So he's averaging 25 points,

six assists, five rebounds in 43 games this season. Was an all-star, third-team all-NBA selection clutch player of the year. Get out of there. 2023. So has one year

remaining on his deal. Earlier this season, said he was going to wait to see what the Kings did in terms of signing his extension. Mark it. But I know one thing. If I'm the Kings, I would love a package of Rui, Max Christie, Christian Wood, a first-round pick. See, this is...

Dave Vincent. Ooh! News is... We'll give you game two. See, news is he got fucking traded. This is not fucking news. Like, no shit he's going to get. So we didn't know that they was out here shopping, the motherfuckers?

We did not know that. That's the fuck we did. You don't have to tell me publicly that the Sacramento Kings could possibly be trading him, Sabonis, fucking Monk. All the motherfuckers can go right now. They ain't winning. Right now they're winning with Doug, but trust me. They've been performing very well with Doug, Chris and K. Right now, they're winning with Doug, but trust me. Have been performing

very well with Doug, Chris and K. Right now, but they've been, trust me, man. Sacramento has seven Chili's in the metropolitan Sacramento area.

This is what tanking finna look like. You think tank right now after all the recent success? If they talking about trading him, yes. Yo, he can go to, yo, he can,

yo, he'll be a good piece of it. See, the news, see, this is not news. News is that Darren Fox got traded. That's breaking new That's that's reason to break up my fucking they're saying if you're tired. They're saying if first of all, okay Let me do my host thing. All right, I've been working real hard up the show to tell me some shit that might happen Yeah, yeah

Shit you go talking about the Lakers and Anthony which I don't like talking about the Lakers I was trying to move off the Lakers for you, Kenyon. Talk about some real shit that happened. The Lakers, that's some real shit. Yeah, we was talking about them. We should have kept talking about them, breaking up the fucking show. Some potentially shit.

Hold on. Some potential shit. Did I just hear you say that we should have kept talking about the Lakers? Yes, over some potential shit, absolutely. God is good. God is good all the time. He could potentially be going to a big market like Lakers attention about what no report me to report to me that he they traded him So the news before the season was he wasn't gonna sign his extension, you know

Wanted to see what the Kings were gonna be able to do as cats started out struggling this year I'm saying I have to sign the extension yet. They know what it what what it's in Jane often He can't sign it. There ain't nothing off. Guarantee they come to that motherfucker with 240. He ain't... He fucking signing it. So, I don't hear that shit, man.

No, he got... That was the thing that all Sacramento got mad at me for saying, and he chimed in, right? Yeah, he did chime in, Gil, as I recall. He chimed in. I said, it is not in their best interest, goddammit, that you signed that super, super max, right? You can sign right now the 240, but you don't want to sign that because if you sign

it, then have All-NBA, you missed out on $100 million. How does that work with that 2023 All-NBA? Does that impact his ability to get the... No. Okay. Yeah, so he needs the All-NBA this year.

And my whole thing was, I'll pay a motherfucking million... I'll pay a couple million dollars for him not to make it. If I'm going to save that 50, I'll give away 20. Yeah, I'll give away... What? So, remember, I said it back then. So it's like...

Kings fans did get mad at you. You said Brandon can't pull up to Sacramento. He don't want to. Said Kenya can't pull up. You weren't even on the show that day. You said nothing. He just got thrown in. Said I'm not welcome either.

I'm just saying, like, it's just... This is part of the business of basketball. I wasn't even here that day. This is the business of basketball that nobody pays attention to. I'm a Chili's fan't have ample Chili's options Okay, those are like Americana deep discounts on their food option case currently 24 and 22 in the NBA Underachieving which 10th in the West right now under achieving but have shown new life under interim head coach Doug Christie

They have underachieved so far this season With the talent that they have. Where would D-Fox go? So do you believe that D'Aaron Fox could benefit from a change of scenery?

Let's just talk about it from the D'Aaron Fox angle first. Hell yeah. Listen, he's only going to go to... He's getting the benefits of...

And he's been in the league long enough to know, man, I'm getting fucked over here. Right? It is messing with my endorsements, my money, my shoe sales. So, And he's been in the league long enough to know man. I'm getting fucked over here. Mm-hmm, right It is messing with my endorsements my money my shoe sales. So When he say he has a destination we all know Okay, you trying to go to San Francisco? Okay, cool. You trying to go to LA?

New York somewhere in New York You're trying to get to a big market so you can capitalize on your game Because how you play the game is not being recognized and figure if you're in a bigger market you will look better globally bonus, yep Package them a man Sabon. Okay, well, I mean you can ask was it Ernie bigger staff, but Ernie Bickford They're not going away. Yeah, okay. Oh, Okay. They're not going nowhere together, but they both... Bernie is the father.

They could leverage their future with them. They could get a lot of draft picks. They can get a lot of draft picks. Assets and stuff right now. They could do that for each one of them guys right now. And throw in Malik Monk. So here's the thing. He's got one year left on his deal.

He should be able to get out, but that's what DeMar fucked up. Got one year left on his deal. He should be able to get out, too, but DeMar, that's what DeMar fucked up. Got one year left on his deal, we'll make $37 million next year. Opt out. But I'm just... Opt out. No, no opt out. Oh, so he already out. He's already, yes.

Oh, fuck. So, but that's my point. So is it an extension this year, or? He's extension eligible, I believe. I think he got assigned an extension last summer, if I'm not mistaken. He was eligible to do so. His side was reporting that they were holding off on wanting to see moves the Kings made. I don't know what the Kings said.

Like, oh, shit, we holding off, too. But... How old is he? De'Aaron Fox. 26? He is... 6, 7? 27 years old. Just turned 27 in December. Yeah. He want that Supermax. He want what his game say.

Because he's been deserving of... His game and numbers have said he's deserving of at least 13. So 25, 6, and 5 this season. Problem being it's in Sacramento. That 25, 6, and 5 looks a lot better if it's in L.A., if it's in New York. New York and Boston. Even Miami. Because you're on national television.

I was going to say Miami. You're on national television. Playing at four. People seeing you. Yeah, people seeing you playing on the East Coast, right? Not on Tubi. They seeing you scoring 60. That would be good.

Them things new. Them bunions. No, you're catching a cramp. Oh, hey, them, hey. You got a cramp in your toe? I know! It's that Ciroc. That De'Aaron Fox knew. He was going 60. Now them people...

Some Ciroc. Damn! So, Sean's report said that... Damn, hey, man. I'm... Hey, man, y'all got to check that Ciroc bottle, man. Goddamn, this motherfucker paralyzing me. This is crazy. This is the first... Nah. You still drinking Ciroc? Nah, it was in there, man.

I'm like, God damn, give me two shots of Ciroc. Your motherfucking leg going numb. Is this how it starts? Y'all think I'm playing. Oh, Lord have mercy. You got to tranquilize it. I see. I see. I see why motherfuckers is out there going crazy

at the parties, man. Gil drinking the baby oil flavor. I see. I see. I see why motherfuckers is out there going crazy at the parties, man. Gil drinking the baby oil flavor syrup. Yo, shit. My shit just started freezing up. And do it. And do it. Take that. Take that, Gil. Take that. Take that. I'm sorry, man.

Yeah, I'ma just keep that one off, man. Hey, man. Told you about drinking Astaroth. He ain't even know it. I'm over here just like, but shit going on? But back to De'Aaron Fox quickly before we move on. Oh shit. Sean said he has a target destination in mind.

Where do you think De'Aaron Fox wants to continue his basketball career for Trey Ward to happen? Oh, he has a target destination. You already know where we go top three spots You gotta go Let's go la or New York Miami. So go to my hours to join stuff Miami. You think Miami is his Miami? Preferred destination in Kenya. Why do you think Miami after all the discussions we had about he culture? Oh my got nothing to do him him. Prison with an ocean view or something. It ain't got nothing to do with him. They'll send Jimmy to Sacramento? I would. Oh, yeah.

I'd sit in there and write to Sacramento. I'd sit in there and write to Sacramento. Write tomorrow. But if you're the Kings, why would you do that? Knowing Jimmy has a player option. The guy won't out. The other guy won't out. You're coming out of money. Oh, well.

But you got Darren Fox under contract next season, so you can wait until next track deadline. Listen, that'll be a trade for your ass. But that's... Him and Sabonis package some shit up. You can get off Duncan Robinson contract. You can get off Tyler Hero. You can get off...

You keep Bam for Sabonis five, Darren Fox at the one. You get rid of Jimmy. Yeah, that's a lot of money. But yeah, you can get off. You keep Bam for us, a bonus five, Darren Fox at the one, you get rid of Jimmy. Yeah, that's a lot of money, but yeah, you can... The Kings go back to where they was at. Yeah, they go back to who you are. But y'all been in the basement. Yeah, go back to dollar beer night, goddamn it, get everybody in the arena, you know how to do it. Y'all do a good...

You know what I'm saying? That one year when y'all was in third seed, somebody opened the motherfucking shutter door, you picked your head out. Fresh air. Yeah, fresh air. Somebody closed that bitch with your nose in it.

Talk about the Arco. The Arco, yeah. The Arco. Let me just throw a team. New Arena, nice, too. Yeah. The old ones. Arco was a fucking shithole.

That shit was right here on you, though. Yeah. It was loud in that motherfucking cowbells and shit. That was like a high school gym, though. Yeah. Because the fans was like right there, so they didn't have that deep... We was a rival. Right up on you in that motherfucker.

We was trash, but it was crazy. I like Golden 1, though. Golden 1 joint, nice. Yeah. Brandon, you said San Francisco potentially linking up with Steph Curry. Under Armour brand athlete. Could be. And Gil, what do you think would be a good fit for D.J. Fox?

One and two. It's a small ass backcourt. Preferred trade destination. My thought is whoever got bread. That be a good fit for D.A. Fox? One and two. It's a small-ass backcourt. Preferred trade destination. My thought is whoever got Brett. That's a petite backcourt is what we would call that. How he plays? Mm.

Miami would be a good stop for him. L.A. I'd trade him for Todd Hero. Yeah. If they dumb enough to do that, I'd do it. Something else, though. No, no, no. This'll be a three. This is gonna have to be multiple team packages

and draft picks and all kind of shit finna be exchanged for this and for that to go down. Good. We had a playback watch party last night. Jeff T., Club 520, B-Han, everybody pulled up. We were watching the Celtics. Damn, my invite well fuck you too Kill sanction. I had little league practice. I had to carry on over well. Well Gil will fuck you We were getting up. I found that at 430

We were getting our last auto crack at Kenya as you know getting that one soda crack and I know black trying to get my Kind right. I know almost Are we on Monday. What? No, we going to get. Let me talk to him. We'll get him back right. Please talk to him. He told him, we had trials the other day.

They had makeup trials. He said, baseball? No, we'll get it back right. No, I don't want to play that no more. We got roadblocks. What we got? No, what it was, was they was interrupting that baby Saturday, dog. Uh-huh.

Early ass game. I get it, Cash. Yeah. 8 o'clock game on the 7. Like, nah, this ain't... We asked the chat. 70% of the chat thinks the Kings should trade De'Aaron Fox. But like I said, we were watching that playback watch party, Celtics-Rockets. So let's talk about that, and then we'll see if De'Aaron Fox can move to H-Town.

That's a good-ass game. That'd be interesting. So Houston Rockets faced the defending champion Celtics last night. They went into Boston and took over their trap accordingly. Shout-out to the legend Paul Wall, fan of the show, man of customized grills. This one was a back-and-forth affair all night. Dylan Brooks tied a Rockets franchise record with 10 threes, which is also a career high. He finished the game with 36 points, one shy of tying his career high.

Eamon Thompson scored a career high, 33 points in the game. He was doing his thing, getting to work. Oh, look at Dylan Brooks cooking. Out onto the Canadian. Oh, they wanted nothing to do with this man right here. Yo, Stephen Adams is a very large human being. Yeah. He's a big gentleman.

Yo. Oh, you see it. He was out there absolutely cooking. All legs. Dillon Brooks hit this big three. I like that about him. 32 minutes to go in the fourth. I like that about him.

But game on the line. Tied at 112. The Celtics' number one option got cooked. Thompson hit a jumper to grill. less than one second on the clock to give the Rockets the win. Jabari Smith should be worried. And we were talking about that on the playback last night. Jabari Smith Jr. should be worried.

It was a big win for Houston, who got it done without their top two stars having great nights. Jalen Green only scored 12 points. Operant Shingun had 11 points. Jalen Brown led the Celtics 28 points, and Tatum had 19.7 rebounds, 6 assists. Celtics are now 8-6 in the month of January. We'll talk about them in a second. But back to Houston.

Over their last three games, Rockets have two wins over the Cavs and a win over the Celtics to their credit. And at 31-14 on the season, they're currently holding down the second spot in the West. Is it time to start taking the Houston Rockets? Seriously as a contender I'm gonna give it one more year You threw that word in there at the end and you fucked it up Yeah, like so yeah, like let me contender is it time to start taking the Rockets seriously?

No, they still stuck down the stretch. Taking them seriously? Taking them seriously. Regular season team, yes. Start taking them serious, yes. They have a fine day. Yes. Good coach, good.

Yes. Yes. We need to. They didn't make the playoffs last year. Shout out to the fine boys. They had a great run towards the end of the season. They didn't make the playoffs. I'm just saying, KD.

I said they didn't make the playoffs. They built some momentum, though. They did. They made some momentum they didn't make the playoffs. They built some momentum, though. They did. At the end, they made some momentum. Didn't get them in. We know where momentum works at. I'm saying, but this year, they're showing growth, right? They're showing growth.

Yeah. They make it, get in, win the first round series this year. Or a couple games. No, to win the first round. No, no. To put that word in there that he used, you got to win a fucking series. This year's second. Or a couple games. No, to win a four, no, no. To be, no, no, no. To put that word in there that he used, you got to win a fucking series this year. Yo. You got to win a series this year

to go with B-set for next year, right? You got to win a series and it has to be dominant this year. Or just win it for two. Producers, producers, not coming from me. Producers would like to point out that the Dallas Mavericks made the NBA finals last year after Not making the playoff. Yeah, but they have

Between just telling them Dallas and it is between Dallas and Houston Dallas and Dallas team their best players is veterans still Right. You have a veteran guard that know how to play off basketball, winning basketball. And you have Luka, who is a very different player. Houston is young, right? You got to treat them like OKC, right? OKC is still not championship ready, right?

They're still trying to fine-tune some of those other players. You got Shea, who can hold his own in the playoff, but everybody else is still trying to figure out how to be great. Houston, there's not going to be any consistency. They play against Dallas in the first round, they lost. They play against Denver, they lost, right? There's nobody at that bottom end that they're going to be able to play a half-court game

and actually dominate them. Yeah. So, question for the couch. Because they're two-star players. It's 22, and they don't really... I don't know yet. They haven't got that. Yeah, They don't know yet. They haven't got that. Yeah, they ain't there yet.

But they're really good. They have a really good coach. They defend. They scrap, which goes a long way. And in a playoff series, that's what I'm saying. They get in. They win a playoff series because they know how to scrap. Maybe.

We can start talking about it next year, but I don't think they match up with certain guys in the playoffs this year. They're going to lose. I think you said about bringing—I think you were saying earlier this year, you said if Houston got—who you said? If Houston got a vet, you were saying somebody would be good over there. I think that's why they went in, because— Was it Jimmy?

I think you said Jimmy. I think you said if Houston got somebody like a bet, they'll be able to go from. That brings me to my next question. You guys said the Rockets are a year away. We got the trade deadline quickly approaching, Thursday, February 6th. Could they fast-track that growth? We talked about the emergency of Amon Thompson.

Amon, Amon, Amon. Okay, but even with that, see, it reminds me of Phoenix Suns. It's still gimmicky. It's gimmicky win regular season games type of lineups, right, where you have a 6'7 guy who's just a freak himself, you know, playing at the four, right? You know, and then you got, you know, Sangoon at the five. You're just not really – it's easy to win games right now, but when you play, Sangoon at the fight. You're just not really...

It's easy to win games right now, but when you play in the playoff playoff, you're not going to be able to survive. They have several draft picks at their disposal. They still have a few picks left? They have several draft picks at their disposal. Draft capital, yes. With no contingencies to it?

It depends on how bad they want to win. That'll be the caveat. So it's a little confusing, but I think OKC has the rights to swap with Houston with the 2025 pick if that happens. It depends on how bad they want to win. Houston, I think he gets. OKC don't need you. If they draft a motherfucker in the top, if they fuck around and get a tie, they just doing shit to do it if they get. Yeah, so they can swap.

Chill out. They have a first-round pick... Yeah, so they can swap. Chill out. They have a first-round pick. Like, do some real work. They got two first-round picks this year. Excuse me. Like, what the heck? The biggest Toe Future bag. Do some real work, man.

Goddamn. Two first-round picks. Don't sit down. First-round pick of 2020. Or two, excuse me. First-round pick of 2027. Also a pick swap. This ain't got nothing to do with, like...

I'm trying to... They're in a... They have better pieces than OKC got. pick swap this ain't this ain't got nothing to do with like i'm trying they're they're in a bit i i they have better pieces than okc got they got picks houston got players and you seen those picks too good they don't have to get rid of that they got they got players that was high these these are high caliber players like they were back they were so loaded with a bunch of talented kids that's already, like, you got Whitmore. You got a bunch of people on your team where people be like. And the one you just drafted.

And the one you just drafted. Reed Shepard? Reed Shepard, yeah. Yeah, you have. With him included, what we're talking about, value that you can. You have real value where some people... You're sitting at your line of like, yo, this is a loaded fucking squad.

No matter who sits, I have somebody who can come in and steal. Like if Jalen Green goes down, I got Whitmore. So you just... He can put up fucking 20. So you just stay where you're at then? No.

No. No, no. I'm like, go through the... Like if you have, let's say, Shep No, no. I'm like, go through this. Okay, look, look. If you have, let's say, Shepard, you got- Jabari Smith. See, Jabari, I don't know if I let him go- Because you got Tyree, because see, the thing is, you got Tyree Easton.

I got Easton? But Jabari going to cost more. Eventually, Jabari going to cost more than Tyree Easton. And that's what I'm saying. So I keep Tyree Easton and I trade, I get off Jabari because he's the second pick in the draft. Third pick in the draft, right?

Okay. He's going to cost more. Yeah, this is... You got Reed Shepard, top five pick. Uh-huh. Jalen Green, top five pick.

Jabari Smith Jr., top five pick. You got... So let me just read this to y'all if I can make this make sense. You got Whitmore, lottery pick. Hold on. Sangoon, first round pick. You got... let me let me just read this to y'all. Yeah, I can make this mess lottery pick. I don't sangoon first-round pick

You got so it's you got Peace who you're not using and you still so they got two first-round picks in this draft. Who's that? Houston okay to first-round picks in this draft 2027 I believe they have three first-round picks 2028 they have a first-round pick 29. They got a first or two first-round picks. Yeah 2030. They got a first-round pick 2031 I'm sorry, but There's people there. I'm saying they can go but their picks is cool. They They don't have to be dumb enough to get rid of them. What I'm saying is they have gold right now

Yeah, they got gold but they like you're talking... You can put those players that that's your gold and still have this draft. But with them picks, it makes it platinum. No, but what I'm saying is I don't... But I don't need to. I can use those picks later. I don't need to enhance it with picks. I literally have 22-year-olds, 23-year-olds who can play. And I'm dangling the potential of you getting a 19-year-old

with them 22-year-olds with this pick so so like what's that? Yeah, let's say Easton and Whitmore. What does that get you an open market? Whitmore and Whitmore and Jabari, what does that get you in the open market? I got you I got you a nice forward and I got you a great guard who can put buckets in But what you gonna give me and pick anyone you want pick? I can throw in a pick, a little cherry on top. Yeah, but... You know what I mean?

Yeah, careful, man. Pat will want more back. I mean, you got a lot of talent. Give me Bam. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. Don't do that. No, leave Bam where he at.

Leave Bam where he at. I don't need Jimmy. I got enough motherfucking wings that can go get it. But do you get rid of some of them so they'll... That's what I'm saying. You got to get... They got too many. But Pat going to want some of them picks back.

So this, I think it works, bro But I don't want to go what I'm saying is Jimmy the one person that don't need me will be Houston I have this you don't seven. I got a thing on do it. He do. I got a busload of these niggas right here They don't do it. He do though. I know but I they do need a bet you give me Sabonis Oh, you give me one of them Wagner frogness over in Orlando. Hey Orlando. y'all having a problem with frog none and and Banjero was which one do you want to do? I know but which one you know I look like this follows over there right now. Hey young. No, you know what I get is a vet a phone If I'm Miami, I'm doing it

I mean he has a lot of talent It's just and pigs right now if you want do you want to win that like are you trying to think they're trying to win? Now because I'm winning now, but my the position that I need right now Right now I need a power forward if I can get a veteran power forward I think you good because Because with the young guard with a man and Dylan Brooks and all Whoever I said I don't want to put I don't want to put my

6'7 guard at the power forward. I don't want to put him at the power forward. I don't. You can put Dylan. I hear you. You don't want to. I can throw Dylan Brooks in there. No, no, fuck. Leave him where he at. Leave him right in Houston. Him and Jimmy together out there, motherfucker. On the wings?

You can hide Jalen. Fred at the point, winning experience. I'm doing that, dog. But you're little. I'm doing that, bro. They're too small. I'm doing that. So they play fast.

They play fast. I'm doing that. I'm doing that if I'm Miami. It just reminds me, like, I don't think I'm doing that. Their whole team is 6'7". Couple picks, some players they got you. So you got players that you can build with now.

Unless you're getting rid of Fred and then put Jalen Green at the point, Jimmy at the two. No, Jalen can't play the point. I think Fred got to go. No, Fred stay where he at. You need Fred.

Would you make a play for Jaren Fox? You need Fred to calm that shit down. Fred still make big shots. But you got Jimmy. I put Jimmy at the point. I got to make it up. Don you got Jimmy. Oh, I put Jimmy at the point.

I got to make it up. I'm going to put Jimmy decision-making in there. Fred got a championship. Fred knows what it is to win when it's on the line, so I'm going to go with Fred as my point. Small. But, dude, that's enticing because they got them picks. Jeff Green still over there?

You got them picks, man. Like, you're 6'7 across the board. He still be playing? I mean, he still be— With a big man who's half-fledged. You got Steven Adams still over there. You got— Oh, yeah, they do got some vets.

Dude. Boston— That might be it, though. Yo, Hughes can do that. And what we just said went, yeah, they definitely win the first round. They get Jimmy Butler. And that's—I mean, you're talking about— Hey, they definitely went in the first round they get Jimmy, but that's I mean you're talking about Hey, they definitely win the first round series. They get Jimmy Butler I forgot Stephen, but they can make multiple the point they can make multiple moves. They don't have they gonna make rap deal

Yeah, they gonna play in the way with me with a phone who doke over there coaching them up. Yeah, I'm rolling They went into Boston and got I'm rolling with that I'm rolling with Houston and Miami making that deal. Because you can throw Reese. I got to treat them like Denver, right, where my center is not athletic at all. So if my center's not athletic, I really do need two or one more athletic big back there that can clean up, you know, something. Just be there. Thompson, he's doing a good job, but this is regular season.

He's not going to be able to pull that shit in the playoffs, right? So either I'm going to say I'm riding with him because the motherfucker is just special. Yes. And now it's like, because the position for me is between him and Dylan Brooks. That moving forward. It's between them two. But hear me out between him and Dylan Brooks. That moving forward. It's between them two. But hear me out, though. In a playoff series, right?

So we're talking about long-term, talking about playoff series. Okay, he's giving you what he's giving you now. He's young, right? He's playing well now. If he's giving you one or two games in the playoffs, great. But you got two guys that you don't have to play him. Jeff Green's still serviceable. Man.

I ain't saying it a lie. That's the key word in that phrase. Serviceable. Knows what it takes, throw him out there a few minutes at a time, if that's the case. If a young fella ain't grown within you need his growth to depend on him in the playoff series, right? I'm rolling with Dylan Brooks and Jimmy Butler and guarding any, any of these soft-ass fours

that just want to shoot jump shots in the NBA. Give me them two all day. Because I know the fight that you're going to get with them, it ain't going to be easy. I don't give a fuck the size of the motherfucker that they got to guard. They both going to scrap when that shit on the line. That I do know. They can say whatever they want to about Dylan Brooks. When that shit getting nut-cut in time,

he going to scrap. He going to lace the motherfuckers up and get to it. But what do you have when they get in foul trouble? You still got Jeff Green, Steve Niles. Do you want to go? You still got stuff, but you're not just, you're putting this shit together. You still got enough pieces over there.

You still got Tyree Eason. You still got Ja'Shaun Tate. You still got motherfuckers over there, man, that, trust me. So let's talk about what was like. You want to make it a two-point game? They don't shoot. They shoot threes, but they ain't just firing that bitch at will. So I'm just looking at... Talking about one other player they got over there.

Rockets are no stranger to hitting on draft picks lately. Here's their fourth overall pick in the 2023 draft. Eamon Thompson fits the billing as well. Here's what he said after hitting the game winner last night. How would you describe the feeling as that shot left your hands and you knew you guys had it? That felt great. I knew that was going in. I knew this was going to happen.

That's my first game winner. I feel like Kobe. He's tall, man. So, Rockets 4 is coming off his first career 30-point game, averaging 14.8 rebounds while shooting 56% from the field. So, since being named at the starter in January, he's averaging 19 points, 12 rebounds, 4 assists. Do the Rockets have a future star in Amon Thompson?

This is the conversation we had last night on our playback watch party. Hey, everybody not going to be here here like magic said like I like you to start. I don't know but his future is bright And Jimmy He just is like a like like watching him play last night like you know, yeah, he just don't have a jumper Yeah, yeah, that's gonna keep everybody but that's cool He knows how to play basketball slash cut a rebound offensive rebound like the neither does Giannis Yeah, it's just fuck about that jump shot shit yet Like to me that 13 for 19 from the field, but he understand what I need to do to be effective

Yeah, I'm gonna get by the I'm gonna get by this orange thing with this glass thing that's around it I'm gonna get by that. I'm gonna get close to that as I possibly can cuz my percentage is the fucking high Yeah, if I'm if I'm looking at him, I'm trying to develop a guard from Detroit. He's my future three Okay, like or or like like I'm which can Jalen like in today's game King I put Jalen green at the point and I mean you're just bringing the ball up it in from there You just create an offense, right? If I can do that then I can push everybody down put Thompson at the two Dylan Brooks at the three have

Me does he Smith at the four in Sangoon at the five? I got a big lineup. That's very versatile, right? That's gonna run up and down then I can still play half-court basketball. Does he pass enough, though, at the one? Trapper's ass enough. He'll pass. Blitz's ass, he's off of it. But I mean, in today, when you think about the concept, like, Jesus Christ. And then you got Dylan Brooks, who I'm trying to think is because he's a

right he's up because he needs the ball right there's no difference Ja can play the point and if he come downhill he got a head to see and they fuck around oh god oh god damn yeah because look out but that would be because that would be because he get to two like Ja yeah he that would be my move where I'm I'm the two, like Jai, yeah, he... That would be my move, where I'm sitting there looking at this group, and I'm like, the best lineup that I can have that'll be dominant offensively and defensively, if I have Jalen Green at the point. Him at the point.

And then I have Thompson or Dylan Brooks at the 2-3. It don't matter how they play the game. And then I have Jabari at the 4 and saying going at the 5 I have a solid Solid really athletic team right there's no lineup that I actually worry about Right there's no there's not gonna be one person besides Luca that cannot that that fucks up my lineup because but I guess I can put Dylan Dylan Brooks on Luca or yeah Or or young fella and I'm sitting there like I like that, too I like I like putting the ball in Jaylen's hand and then when I go small boom

I Also like bringing Jimmy Butler into this current situation that we have and getting off a few of these young guys if we trying To win right now. We're gonna actually go there. I'm doing this. Will you get rid of Easton? I'm doing this. I'm keeping Tyree. I'm keeping him. Keeping who? Tyree Easton. Because I ain't got to pay him eventually. So you'll get rid of Jabari? I'm getting rid of Jabari, unfortunately. Jabari can play man. I know, that's why I want to keep him. But no, but his trade, but this, money wise, because you're going to have to use the second,'s why I want to keep him. But no, but his trade but to this for money wise. Money wise. Because you're going to have to use the second, third, you got to pay him. Yeah money wise. Dylan Brooks probably got to go too. No. No. If I can keep though like like I got Whitmore.

See I got Whitmore and I got um young. See Whitmore is he. Shepard. Whitmore might play might not play. He ain't one of them. Ja'Shaun Tate might play might not play. Yeah I'm Jason take might play might not play. Yeah, then one of them situations, right? Unfortunately, but that's what the situation at the end. Yeah, we're more we're more paid in the last year his deal too. So therefore it's Whitmore and Shepherd that is my I'm trying to buy you you y'all need some firepower, right? I got I got these two young guys. They ready to go They eager to play. And Shepard is, no, that's Pat Riley's type of guy.

And a pick. And a pick. But you have Fred Van Fleet. I know you guys are saying to keep him. What do you mean by that? But he's on a team option this summer. So, yeah.

So, you got 45 million, but team option. Yeah, that's, see. Because you can go that for Jimmy pretty much. See, that's see Cuz you can go that for Jimmy pretty much I'm see that point at that point guard position to be honest crazy the point guard position right now That's adding go do that pet won't picks. That's the least of my worries But I don't yeah, but I can show him in there

He gonna want three furs cuz he gone cuz Jim the head Because of the headache that this motherfucker didn't put me through y'all have to compensate me Yeah, I need a couple of them first round. You know try to go get that doing wait, you know You know point being the money matches But now you don't have to worry about breaking bread with him next year So now you still get to get that Jimmy bread off your books either way Houston and Houston an okay CD and some they really have to be like they got to be sitting there really thinking Yeah, I'd be careful. Oh, you know what I me and how we can because how I know and not fuck up

what we have we got a whole bunch of good shit right here we got to figure out how to make it a meal yes that would be the other because okay see they figure out how shit cuz you can trade the wrong piece of me fuck and I can tell you that wrong piece is Thompson right now you fucking you you can't you know he's saying and if you're using Houston watching the situation in Miami, are you looking and saying, I want to bring that? Keep it more yet. You're not sitting here saying,

I want to bring Jimmy into this organization seeing what's going on out over there. Because you're going to get a different Jimmy. Yeah. You're not seeking. Jimmy's going to play for sure. You're hearing what's going on out there. Okay.

So this is, so when you, from what I've heard and I think I know of Emi Udoka, him and Jimmy would never have an issue. No. Because Jimmy, how Jimmy plays the game of basketball is what that embodies. Right? Play the right way, go out, do your job, compete, who plays the game of basketball is what that embodies. Mm-hmm.

Right? Play the right way, go out, do your job, compete, game on the line, make a San Antonio upbringing, background, all that. That's the way to play basketball. And E-May, from the stories we heard, not afraid to squabble enough. Yeah, exactly.

If things come to that. Yeah, I didn't, yeah. We could throw hands if you like. Yeah. And he's a truth teller amongst men. Right? And. Yeah. And he's a truth teller amongst men. Right. And what I got, he's a truth teller amongst men. What you need in that environment

would have gone like Jimmy Butler. Mm-hmm. Right? I mean, they're going to let, he's not going to let Jimmy dog it. He's going to call Jimmy ass out in the film. He's going to ask Jimmy, what the fuck you doing?

Why you didn't get back? Why you didn't do the, he's going to bring it to the attention of the said corporate. That's what I see. So you'll get a better version of Jimmy because of who's coaching him right now. But I like it. Who says it's going to happen?

But Houston, yeah, it's, but yeah, all those things with Fred Fred being player team option and there's a lot of moving parts of that he said If I can keep him I can keep him but if I'm gonna if somebody has more value than I have like somebody just solid Goddamn guard that can and I really can hold a game cool All right. He helps us out. But if you're gonna give me something that I Really need but this reminds me, and I don't think teams, think about who, we know what Celtics looked like last year, right? We know the core.

Some of you guys are Boston Celtics three years ago. And just time needs to go by. Right? Think about all the people who said they should have broke this team up a long time ago not knowing that they're too young right now to experience what you want. So maybe some of you guys, which was Houston, which is OKC,

you guys are Boston three years ago, and you guys just need to go through some hardship for the armor to kick on before these guys are ready to win championships. But this is what I'll say about FVV. I love for every athlete, but $45 million team option next year. They're not picking that up. That's not, that's not.

So if you know... I'ma just be on there. I'm not. But if you know you're not picking that up... And you dangle that out as a trade piece. No you get a move Cuz that Boston team they they live through a lot. I'm not Isaiah time. They live to but I can use that now They're not any team you trade them to is good. No. No what I'm saying is I'm saying come on for that technically It's coming off my book. Technically I can use Fred come off of that. Technically? It's coming off my book. Technically, I can use Fred,

but, yeah, I don't know. Shepard, Whitmore, two picks to give me Jimmy. You don't even need all that. I know,

but I can use it, but, you know what I mean? To get off, I mean, they're going to drop Fred, he's going to, whatever. If you offer that,

you're getting Jimmy plus something else. You got to look at that heat roster, see what you want, but, because you don't need all that. Jaime's? No, they're not getting rid of him.

They're not getting rid of Jaime. But the FEV and the Jimmy, the money match is up. Is he part of the future? The bread match is up. Jaime Hockett, he's part of the future. Shout out Jaime Hockett, the pride of Camarillo. Yeah, he's part of the future. I mean, they don't, it's like, who the fuck they got over?

And that becomes the thing? That's the thing. Hey, man, y'all better start a... What you finna say, fool? Billups. Chauncey. He got Grant over there. Mm. Grant. That motherfucker, that, he can change a lot of people's lineups.

That's the third team. Right? Yeah, you can change a lot of people's lineups. A lot of people need a player like that, and you can really... And you need some more, you know. Picks. You need some picks and some shit that you can mix around in there and try to figure out a lineup, because right now it ain't working the way you're working.

And they're young and athletic, but they just ain't meshing. And go ahead and make a couple tweaks to that lineup and you'll be fine. All right, so we asked the chat, is Eamon Thompson a future all-star? 84% said yes. They rolling. Let's talk about the Celtics a little bit. Just 5-5 in their last 10 games. Now just a one-game lead over the Knicks

for second seed in the Eastern Conference. Should the Celtics be looking over their shoulder at the Knicks in the East? Steve, put that shit in there. Steve, put that. Okay, I did write that question. Steve, I'm not protecting you. We are a family.

It is a Knicks question. Steve, I'm not protecting you. We are a family. It is a Knicks question. The reason I ask is, does it matter if the Knicks or the Cavs or anybody else have a home court advantage over the Celtics in the Eastern Conference playoffs? No. See? Good. You didn't have to elaborate. We are a family.

I was about to protect it. I'm just saying when just Knicks came out of nowhere, I'm like, that's out. That's a Steve question right there. Yeah, you know my feelings. That's a Steve question right there. Yeah, you know my feelings for New York. New York Knick. Die hard. Knicks playing well now, though. I like the Knicks, man.

They're all right. I know Black. I mean, but home court advantage? If they finish two? Denver is not like, listen, Denver is not worrying about home court advantage. They better. They better because if they see these Lakers are present for tonight there. I mean we got a D That's not let's not start please Can we love that shit Joe so are we allowed to certain teams that need home court and then there's certain teams are not stop

Denver don't need home court advantage Cleveland. Yes Cleveland does um In Boston, but they don't they've shown advances. Cleveland does. Cleveland does. And Boston. Boston don't. They've shown that they can win in any arena. They've, you know, it's one of those teams that, like, they probably just coasting. This shit get boring. And then after all-star break, they could be on a 10-game,

15-game winning streak getting ready for the playoffs. It's all fucked. But do we, because I know we keep saying that. I don't have doubt in this Celtics squad. But watching them play... They shoot a lot of threes. It looked the same way they did last year. Chucking a bunch of shit up there.

But they were running. They were thirsty to get that champion. Exactly. But the hangover that Tatum played in the Olympics. He's played a lot of basketball. No, he didn't. He ain't playing in the Olympics. He was there, though. He played a lot of basketball. No, he didn't. He ain't playing in the Olympics. He ain't playing in the Olympics. He was there, though. He had a free stuff.

He had to go. He had to go. He was there drinking the water, waving the towel. He wasn't good enough to play, as they say. He wasn't good enough to play. But had to do all the practice. He was in it all the time.

Had to eat all the baguettes. Yeah. Baguettes. But it's a lot of basketball. And now to ask him to come back and do the same thing. Not for Jalen Brown. Nobody's worrying about it. Nobody.

Not for Jalen Brown. I want y'all to mark this clip. I the same thing. Not for Jalen Bryant. Nobody's worried about him. Not for Jalen Bryant. Jalen's getting a little worried. I want y'all to mark this clip. I got the news. Not for Porzingis. Not for Pritchard. Not for, you know what I'm saying, Derrick White was there. He played a little bit.

Drew was a good bit. Man, there's a, there's a, I mean, the only flaw with them is, the only flaw with them is they're driving, they're driving, they're driving the kick, not driving the score. There'll be wide open layups, and then they're trying to throw it here, and then they're going to try to kick back to the three. I'm like, yo, you know you're wide open under the basket, right? Just pass it, just stay right there. But they want to kick back to the three.

I'm like, y'all making the game very, very hard. Like, there's a lot of guards, and I'm going to just throw it out there. When y'all are doing pick and roll, some of you guys, your first couple times, just go at the big. Just come off, in and out that motherfucker, and jump. There's really, the way you guys jump, there's not shit going on down there. These bigs aren't taking charges. They're not blocking

your shot running backwards on their heels. There's not a lot of bigs out there. They got 45-inch verticals. The Kins, the Javels, the Clipper boys that's sitting there doing this, the Andre Javels.

There's not a lot of them in the league right now where when you jump, they jumping with you, right? These motherfuckers sitting there, you got the Yoki shit, he's sitting there doing one of these half the time. Like, you come off the pick and roll, that guard get hung up, run at that motherfucker sitting there doing this. Right? This is what he's doing.

He's not ready for you to go by him. But when you come in there sitting there doing this, slowing your momentum down, you're feeding right into them. Come off one, two times. Come off straight. Go and jump. Watch what happens. Now when you come off the next time, what you think they at? They under the rim.

They're not sitting at the free throw line no more. They're like, oh, shit. He done fucked me up. Let me sit under the basket. Now get to come up do you look pull up come up go by you little Hesi He gonna do one of these go by dunk him laugh at him and shit Like you gotta be able to play a different game You sitting here coming off doing a shimmy shade snake you the whole bunch of time you playing Chris Paul He playing Chris Chris Paul gotta play that way Right. He got deer. You don't see the air Fox doing that shit You playing Chris Paul? He playing Chris Paul? Chris Paul got to play that way.

Right. You don't see De'Aaron Fox doing that shit? Meow. Meow. Like, God damn. Going point A to B, God damn it. Think about early Westbrook. Where was motherfuckers sitting at?

In the middle. They all, hey, hey, hey, help, help, help. All right. Put a wall up. Like, he was forced to shoot a free throw jumper. He was knocking that bitch down. Right? Because everybody's, they're running like, as soon as he came off or coming down on the fast break,

they just sat under the basket waiting for him. That's, you need to show that you're going to just take off. Yeah, that shit terrifying for them bitch. They scared, yeah. They not want you to go by them. You do it the first time. They just come off hard. big. They scared of you. They down? They not want you to go by them. You do it first time. They just come off hard.

Wow. Lay up. Yeah. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I'm just sitting there like... Turn that corner. Turn that corner on these... So, we talk about Celtics 5-5 in their last 10 games. Talk about the Cavs as well. Lost five of their last nine games. Who? The Cleveland Cavaliers Guild,

the number one team at Adam Silver's Eastern Conference, featuring number one option, Donovan Mitchell. Cavs in trouble. So, how do we think that the East shakes out? One, two, three. So, the Cavs currently have

a five-and-a-half game lead over the Celtics. Knicks have a... Three. Knicks are six-and-a-half games behind. Bucs, 10 games behind. But Brandon Bucs been playing solid. Took it out of the Clippers, but...

Now, we're fine with a win over the Jets. But we have four? You're currently at four, 26 and 18. Yeah, we gonna stay right there. Yeah, we good, right? Yeah, we good right there. We gonna stay right there. Pacers lurking behind you guys in the fifth spot.

So you think it shakes out the same way. Cavs one, Celtics two. Knicks three. Can the Knicks get on a roll, Steve? Huh? Man, they gonna get on a roll to three. Obviously. They'll be the same way. Cavs 1, Celtics 2, Knicks 3. Can the Knicks get on a roll, Steve? Man, they don't get on a roll to 3. Obviously. They'll be in the second seed. Okay.

So what's the books? So the books are how many games? Fourth right now. How many games? So what is the records? So the books are... No, the Cavs are... Cavs are 37-9, first in the Eastern Conference.

Celtics 32-15, second in the East. Five and a half games behind the Cavs right now. Knicks 31-16. Six and a half game behind the Eastern Conference. Celtics 32-15, second in the East. Five and a half games behind the Cavs right now. Knicks 31-16. Six and a half games behind the Cavs. One game behind the Celtics for the second spot. Bucks 26-18. Ten games behind the Cavs. Three and a half games behind the Knicks.

Four and a half games behind the Celtics. Yeah, I mean, Milwaukee can get the... Absolutely. Milwaukee can get the third for the most part. Three-four. They can get to third for the most part. They can get to third. New York is not going to get to second. Boston is the second. They're not Boston's talent.

Boston is going to come out of the second round. If they do. If they do, but for the most part. They come out after the break. I hear you, yes. After the break, they go. Do you think the Cavs will they do, but for the most part. They come out after the break. Yeah. I hear you, yes. After the break, they gone. Do you think the Cavs will keep that same momentum after the All-Star break?

Five game lead. They got something to play for. They got something to play. Like, to them, being number one is a thing for them. They really believe that they are that. So it's going to be hard to really. Yeah. It's going to be hard to knock them young boys They feeling it so go go

Shit the Knicks might fold though their next couple games before Well, all are pretty tough. They got some tough two three four finna be interesting If Boston come out in the second half wake up there be it'd be two there be two if they wake up saying that there'll Be two yeah, so three four three four. That's I said three That's that's that can be a total. Let's toss up Who we get in this trade? Thank you. No, no, I'm gonna tell you right now. Thank you I break at the end is gonna do just like it did before I don't do nothing. I'm gonna get bill don't do nothing I don't know. Is that the him or yet? Exactly me? I take him

Leave Bradley bill where you is. New York and Milwaukee. It fucks up y'all chemistry. The only team y'all looking at is going to be Miami. That's it. How I'm playing, the end of the season is how Miami's playing. Because I'm trying to match up with them. As long as they're in the playoffs, I'm trying to, I mean, they're going to be, it's going to be a 4-5 matchup. it's going to be a 4-5 matchup.

It's going to be a 3-6 matchup. But it's going to be one of those matchups if I'm Knicks or Milwaukee. Because I know one thing for sure, Jimmy ain't going to be there. And if Jimmy ain't going to be there, fuck that team. That team ain't even good enough

to win a playoff series. So that is exactly what I'm trying to do. Do we anticipate the Heat staying in that sixth spot, though, without Jimmy being there? But that's what I'm saying. I don't give a fuck. No rally, dude. So everybody, whoever the Heat line up,

that's the first-round matchup we're trying to win. Zach Levine compliments Dame Lillard. He's a spot. He's a standstill shooter. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can still athlete, athlete, make shots. I've been hearing Zach's name a lot. Yeah, Zach is one of those guys who don't need the ball to score.

What's the difference in Dame and Bradley Beal? Both ball dominant. Besides, they're both, right? They both need the ball in hand to score. Zach don't. Zach don't. That's why the Lakers... You don't need the ball. You can play point guard all you want, goddamn it. And if you really want, you can put that bitch in,

you can put the ball in his hand. He can definitely play that position. So we asked the chat, should the Celtics be worried? Mm. 99% said no. 51% said no, 49% said yes. What? What? Mm. I forgot. I forgot. It's close to, 49% said yes. What? What? I forgot. I forgot. It's close to 50%.

I forgot. What was the question? Should the Celtics be worried? About? This season. Worried about what? Yeah, I remember this is the chat. Worried about what?

That voted Lakers was a C-plus, and then voted Rashad was right. Did we ask, is it obvious? Yeah, but. But then, that was. Yeah, but. Yeah, so, yeah. Rashad, if you're in the chat, fight back. But shout out to Zip Recruiter for sponsoring today's podcast.

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with a game of facts or cap. I'll give you guys a quote. You simply tell me whether it's facts or cap. We haven't played this game in a while, but it's a Gills Arena classic. Yeah, so first we're going to start with Damian Lillard. Faced off against James Harden in the Clippers and witnessed a vintage Harden's performance. Harden had 40 points, nine assists in the game.

When asked about why Harden doesn't get the respect he deserves, here's what Dame said. He said, you got a group of guys in the league right now that are on that list of 75 greatest players. And I think in the era that we're in right now, you got people on the internet and people in the media and people on TV that they don't watch games. They just throw out stuff and they talk bad about players and they make it appear as if guys can't get it done anymore. Saw Dame's quote.

So Dame says people in media and on TV don't watch games. Facts or cap? Facts. Same shit we said. We are not technically media. We are in that gray area. No, we've been for ex players They've been said very different people don't watch games. They look at stats and they answered highlight highlights and fucking make opinions off of it so facts

We do not do that. No, we watch basketball separate again See my forget you got double. Okay. Okay. All right. Not only do you watch basketball, you understand basketball. Very well. I used to watch a ton of Doogie Howser as a kid. That did not make me a doctor. That didn't make...

He played Doogie Howser. It didn't make him a doctor. Not at all, yeah. Shit. Absolutely. Absolutely. That did not make me a doctor. Reading that script,

he was reading up some shit. Get the fuck out of here. It didn't make... It did not making me a doctor. I'm fucking reading that script, nigga. You really know some shit? Get the fuck outta here. Play one of them. It didn't make me a doctor. Play one of them. It did not make me a doctor. I watched a lot of lawyer shows. I watched a lot of criminal shit. Resolved me in Iowa after a whole lot of law and order.

Watched a lot of law and order. A whole lot of law and order. Think you know the law, right? Hey, we can put it over here. You can put it over saying this shit to the police. Man, get your dumb ass out the car. I'm in season eight. Give me your license and registration.

Say no goddamn TV. Twenty-nine season. What is. I'm in season... Give me your license and registration. Say no goddamn TV. 29 season, was it? 29, 30 season of Law & Over. Black people been watching that shit and getting their head cracked trying to... Officer, I know my rights. Okay. Get your dumb ass out there. I don't talk to police, okay?

You got the right to shut the fuck up. I see how IT was doing. Yeah, all right. All right, all right. You say two words. Yeah. Hey, hey, see how Ice-T was doing. Yeah, all right. All right, Ice-T. You say two words. Yeah. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, no, no. They're that serious.

I thought about that shit. There was a post online where Ice-T was getting, he got a ticket. I think he was getting his car towed. I'm going in a DMV. I got an appointment. Yeah, that Laura Noda shit don't work. Don't do it, huh? Mm.

Uh-huh. That's script and that's real that motherfuckers see no we toying this shit Great movie though. So when it comes to Dame Lillard saying people in the media and on TV don't watch games... Facts. All right. Let's keep it moving. So after struggling in his first season in Washington, Wizards guard Jordan Poole, having a career year, averaged 21 points, five assists per game, both career highs, also shooting a career-best 40% from three-point range,

albeit for the Wizards, who have the league's worst record at 6-39. So according to Mark Medina of Sportskeeda, here's what Poole recently said about his case for the All-Star game. Man. He said, I think I'm... K.N., K, we are... This is what he said.

This show is brought to you by Underdog. Okay, I'm listening. Jordan Poole said it. He's an NBA player for the Washington Wizards. I think I'm definitely an all-star. I play at an all-star level. A lot of it can be political and situational, but performance-wise, I think that I'm an all-star.

I was reading a quote. This is not deaf comedy, Jim. There was nothing intended to be funny about that so Jordan pool thinks he should be an all-star facts or cap Motherfucker man some shit like the man get the fuck out of your boy cap man if you don't stop at your side man you don't come up with a better quote somebody says some

bullshit this is some shit that could possibly happen this is facts or cap Kenya okay that is the no that is not that not. That's beyond cap. A game loved by thousands. No, that is beyond cap. Yeah, that quote is cap. That is cap. That's beyond cap. Yeah, but do you think that he can be an all-star? Who?

Jordan Poole. Fuck no. No? At no point? Fuck no. You see how he played the game? You see how that motherfucker played the game of basketball? Mm-hmm.

Man, not a goddamn chance, man. He hopes to be an All-Star. He had his best chance of making an All-Star team when he was coming off the goddamn bench in Golden State. Fair. Fair. That shit has fucking sailed. He can't hope to be an All-Star? I mean, no. No, listen.

Yo, you can hope. You can hope for all you want. That's called betting, baby. That don't mean that... Huh? You know you know listen, you know you can hope you can hope for you on you can have all baby I have no that don't mean that huh? This hope that we talking about with him Point oh wow on the track on the track Shut up fucking hunts point. What's the shit down figure or downtown? Hmm? Fucking hunts that's what that hope work Hope work this hope we talking about with him making all short on the track down Figueroa downtown. Mm. Where? Fucking Hunter.

That's where that hope work. Hope work. This hope we talking about with him making all, sure going to track. Mm. Yeah. 20 for head, 50 for boom boom. Wow.

Well, not familiar with those price points, Kenyon. You know, I read the Bible every day, but I will take your word for it. Shit. Sure inflation has got a hold of it. Fuck. Price of eggs just keeps increasing. I'm sure boom boom is. Absolutely. Everything else is going up as well. I'm going to be nice a hold of it. Fuck. Price of eggs is keep increasing. I'm sure boom boom.

Absolutely. Everything else is going up as well. I'm going to be nice a little bit. Fuck that. I mean be truthful. You don't think he has a game though? Truthful is the game. Be truthful.

Don't be nice. Be truthful. Where is your honesty here? Okay. So is he going to be, is he an all star? No. Has he been playing like an all-star? No, okay And here's why you

To to be an all-star Right. You have to be consistent For long periods of time, right you Right now he's having great performances, mediocre. Great performances, mediocre. Below mediocre. What ends up happening with him right now is I think it's going to take him one more year.

He's had 23 games of 20-plus, but he's had 15 games of below 20. That's an all-star yeah no teacher that's that's not an all-star player right now right you're talking about like when you're talking about that next level 38 games 30 shit it's not even 38 games yeah 38, you got 15 games where you scored under 20 points. You're a hit or miss right now? You got to make that. You got to get back to the system. Ooh, ooh. Teacher, so much as easy question. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Easy question. Teacher, teacher. I got easy question. Teacher, teacher.

I got a question. Y'all basketball savants and this motherfucker, right? How many people... How many years have the NBA been around? Long time. Okay, long fucking time, right? 75. How many All-Stars made it when they team had fucking single-digit wins

when the motherfucking people was picking them. But for him to even, for one, whoever asked this fucking question is a dickhead for one. He a dickhead for two for answering it. He should have been honest like, man, we got six. The fucking answer should have been when, you got six wins, right? you asked me about all-star individual achievement yes this motherfuckers answer should have been man we got six

wins dog but that but yeah but all but it shouldn't have been nothing more nothing less but even if you average in 30 if you're averaging 30 on a team it should be like an all-star but well but I'm not 21 to 5 is no but what I'm saying is but I'm not even if you're averaging 30 you team, you're playing like an all-star. But I'm not. 21 and 5 is... No, but what I'm saying is... But I'm not. Even if you're averaging 30, you're not. You're playing like an all-star. No, you're not. You are. You got six wins. But that's team shit. Damn. Wait. You're not playing. You're just Chuck.

You're averaging. Them fucking points don't count. Why? If I'm being double-teamed, you're darting. You got six fucking wins. My team sucks. You suck with them. No, but I'm saying this.

How he's playing, him personally... Okay, somebody picked you out the bag first out of the suckers. You suck with them. You in the bag with them, dog. Them points don't fucking count. How they don't count?

Because for one, he's only averaging 21. If he was... I know. But I'm just saying, like, if he was averaging... They'll have more wins. His answers should still be... You averaging 30. They ask you about all-star.

Hell yeah, I'm an all-star. In a normal situation, yeah, but, dog, we got six wins. If I had six wins, I'm still an all-star hell. Yeah, I'm an all-star in a normal situation. Yeah, but now we got six wins if I had six wins I'm still an all-star. Yeah, these motherfuckers out here doubling me tripling me and I'm getting buckets I'm getting to the you know by the double triple team you were six wins Hmm. That's why I ever started cuz they so they're no, but what I'm saying is and and and on a bad team Somebody got to shoot it. And I'm shooting it. And in this situation, he's only averaging 21 in this situation.

So, therefore. Let's go throw it out there. LaMelo Ball on a bad team as well. He got voted in. 12 wins. They got six more wins than them sorry motherfuckers. Twice as many wins. He getting 30.

But he's getting 30. He's averaging 30 a night. He is the brother of a famous rapper. Yeah, they suck too, though. He's getting 30. Twice as many. He's averaging 30 a night. He is the brother of a famous rapper. Yeah, they suck too, though. He's averaging 30, and the fans recognized it. No, but I'm just saying, but... And guess what the NBA said? No, but if someone...

Hear me out. If someone asked him... Nah, fuck all that, man. No, but if someone had asked him, are you playing like an all-star? I said normally, in a normal situation, yes. Listen, in a normal situation, yeah, dog, we got six wins, man. But I'm just saying, I'm just saying,

aesthetically speaking, even if he had 50-something wins, he personally, right now, is not playing like an all-star. So therefore, your game is not dialed in where you're having the 22, 25. Like... like OKC, right? We can...

we can guarantee that motherfucker over there is going to have 30 to 34. We can guarantee it. We can pencil it in. If he has 28,

we'll be like, man, he had a bad night. Off night. Right, he had an off night at 28 because he's so consistent at doing this. Right? Right now, you can have 40. The next night, if a motherfucker say he might have 15,

we got to look at his line. 15? I can't take the higher on the 15 you might fuck around have 9 or 11 right that's where your game is right now it's not saying you're doing anything bad just right now you haven't mentally figured out the game your game to be consistent knowing when you can fuck around and do that extra shit because you're on fire. When you're not playing very well, you got to know how to score. And he don't know how to score when he's not hitting these, these, these, the bullshit, right? Like with James Harden, look at James Harden in, in, in, um, Houston when this motherfucker was doing this right here. And this is that's what I'm saying. To give them some

type of like I enjoy when you read these harder numbers. The hope. A little bit. When 36 31, 29, 25 28, 19, 25 40, 22, 27 34, 43, 28, 19, 25, 40, 22, 27, 34, 43, 32, 40, 54, 25, 23, 30, 29, 15, 35, 29, 50, 32,

47, 35, 35, 39, 41, 45. Right? I got a question. But you see, there's only been two bad games. Now, all that other stuff, there was some bad games in there, but he made it up free throw line. Like, brother, he figured out how to still put the ball in the basket. You know what was at the end of all them things that you was saying?

With the Houston Rockets then? They had a motherfucking W at the end of them motherfuckers. Not something more It was more a guarantee. No, I mean more to say more. I mean Could have been seven, but don't think there was some But I'm just with the with the with the when you're talking about like the difference between an all-star and a Regular ass player that like damn, damn, what's going on? It's those 15.

Like, think about it. I named 15 and 38. I just named out 38 games, and James Harden only had two under 20. If James Harden made that statement with those numbers that you just said, my train of thought and my words coming out of my mouth are different. But. Because he has the capability. But.

He has the capability of being. Who? So far, no. No? Who? No. Jordan Poole. He has the creativity to be an all-star.

He has the creativity to be one. Because he plays so. It's so. He has like. To be an all-star. You got to get voted in for one. No. I mean, not even voted. I'm just. For two. A coach. Coaches have to. The coach. They, you got to get voted in for one. No, I mean, not even voted in.

I'm just... For two, a coach... Coaches have to... The coach, they got to agree to put you in that motherfucker. No, I'm talking... Even if your team turns around and you're winning games, the game has to be stable. And they got to pick you still.

His game is not stable right now. And they still have to pick him. No, I'm not saying... No, I'm just saying if there's winning... Yes. Like, his game has to be stable. I'm agreeing with you. You're 23 and 15.

That's not All-Star. I'm agreeing with you. Yes, but they still have to pick him. They still gotta like you. You gotta be 48 and 3. Like, your bad games gotta be rarity. So, when it comes to Jordan Poole being an All-Star,

Stop the cap. We also asked the chat is Jordan pool an all-star 11% said facts 34% said cap and 55% said get the fuck out of here boy. That was the other option Yeah, so like say right now shays played how many games of this? Yeah, that's Chase played 44 games. He's only had one game under 20 points. Mm.

So, that, that's all NBA. You give me that, give me that, you give me that, Joe Poole, I'll shut the fuck up. You know what I mean? But, you know what I mean? Just so when... Just motivation. We motivate here on Gilderland. We do motivate. Let's figure out why they don't, why they don't get certain things.

You can't think about your highs. You got to think about how low do you get. You can't spike up and down. You got to be consistent across the board. So let's move on to our last topic. You made the all-star team average of 15. Yeah? Yeah.

It was 17 to 14. There's a lot of W's, right? There's a lot of W's. But the thing is I made the motherfucker yes so Kyrie Irving in his 14th NBA season he talked like he was an all-star actually so let's talk shifted over to Kyrie Kyrie Irving in his 14th NBA season but his experience has people thinking he's older than he really is he's just 32 years old right now so So back in November, when he was on a stream with Kai Sennett, Sennett kept calling Kyrie, Unc,

which Kyrie didn't like. Apparently, his Mavs teammates have picked it up as well, calling Kyrie by Unc. Kyrie recently said, being called Unc at 32 is crazy. So Kyrie says being called Unc at 32 is crazy. Facts or cats? That's facts, bro. He's still young. Not in the black community. Unk at 32 is crazy, facts, or cats? That's facts, bro.

He's still young. Not in the black community. Unk at 32 is nuts. At 32? That's still young. I mean, still, I'm 35. Calling me Unk is crazy. Come on, I ain't your Unk.

Well, I'm older than you, Brandon, so. Unk is 40. Yeah. Like, that's Unk. The Unk. Unk is 40. Unk is 40. Unk is 40.

Unk is 40. Unk is 40. You got to get some gray hair. Not to young people. Yeah, it's the age. Like 32, what is that? What is right before unk? Big bro? Big bro, yeah, you're a big bro.

30, yeah. 30 is like big bro. 30 is like, yeah, 30 to 29 to 30... 38? And then you got OG is 40. Damn, and then you got OG. Damn, I get the damn OG. Yes, so wait.

Oh, no. 49 or 40, OG. You get the damn, no. You don't get OG. Damn, OG. He's not OG yet. He's big bro. He's big bro.

We're OG. Big bro, unk, OG. Huh? Or is it unk, OG? It's OG, unk. No, it's unk, then OG. OG is before unk. No, because un Unc then OG. OG is before Unc. What you 40?

No, because Unc was Shay Shay that year. Yeah, you OG. Yeah, yeah, you OG. I'm big bro. I think OG is older than Unc. That's OG. 47. Oh, no, if that's OG.

Yeah, over 45, yeah, that's OG. I think that's- Chat, chat, y'all got to- And then 50s be like, damn, OG? Yeah. Damn, I think that's OG is before Unc. Unc is like Snoop. Think about it, Snoop is- Unc is in the 50s.

Unc is Snoop now. Unc is Shannon, Snoop. Damn, we're OG. Absolutely. We're OG is before Unc. Unc is like Snoop. Think about it, Snoop is... Unc is in the 50s. Unc is Snoop now. Unc is Shannon, Snoop. Yeah, we're OG. Absolutely.

We're OG. Snoop's not OG, Snoop is Unc. Yeah. Unc OG. Uncle Snoop. But Kyrie also played the character... Snoop Uncle OG. Uncle Drew.

When you get old, nigga? When did that one come in? Old nigga. Unc is 30... I mean, to younger people, we are old. I'm just being real. 30. Kids, I coach. Nah, nigga. Unc is 30. I mean, to younger people, we are old. I'm just being real. 30.

Kids I coach. Nah, Colin Kyrie. What's up, OG? Colin Kyrie, Unc at 30, 20. Call him sir. Oh, Jeff Teague said it, right? Mr. Mr. No, it was Lou.

No, it was Lou. I get Mr. now. Told a story. This is Mr. Williams. I feel like Mr. is above OG. Mr. That's for old heads. What's up, Mr.?

Yeah. Sir. Sir. Yeah. But sir is, like, for me, like, I got sir. And when older, like, sir and ma'am just comes out. For me, it could be down south. Yeah.

Me speaking to certain people. You can be younger than me. And just, it's going to actually naturally come out for me mm-hmm like this female you asked me something yes ma'am no sir okay somebody wrote it so cuz old nephew is up to 25 big bro up to 40 I'm up to 59 and then OG see oh geez older oh yes so we big I'm big bro yeah okay you're a big you're a big bro error and So I'm big bro? Yeah. Okay. You're in big bro era? And we're in big bro era.

So, yeah. I mean, that's what I said. He's still in big bro era. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So he's not Unc yet? No, he's big bro. You know what I'm saying?

He's supposed to give me an unk, bro. Listen, he got called big bro. He got called Unc from Kai. Imagine trying to holler at a girl and she call you Unc. You'd be like, aw. Aw.

Yeah, that was... I was just about to get you to... I was she call you uncle. You'd be like, oh. Oh, yeah. I was just about to get you to, I was just about to hit your cash app. Oh, damn. I remember we were in summer league. I think our first season. Uncle's still going to do it. Yeah, but I just don't want to be called uncle. I'm trying to holler.

Fuck. We were at summer league a couple years ago. Wind Lobby. I see Jason Tatum surrounded by about 30, 40 young heads, and they all calling him Big Bro. And I'm like, ain't Tatum like 24 years old right now? But that's what the state of the league was. What we doing tonight, Big Bro?

He's still youngin'. I thought Jason Tatum was 27. So Mello told me, Mello said, I'm going to be 30. You still going to be calling me youngin'. I said, you my youngin'. Right? When I got to Denver, you were 19, bro. Like, you going to always be my youngin' forever.

Yeah, that's forever. Right? Yeah, that's cold. I don't call him nothing. That's cold. What's good, youngin'? Like, you going to always be that to me. Because, like I said, you were a kid when I got there.

Everybody got their, like, two or three young ins like they remember like they always I mean, that's my younger favorite. Oh my Senior says at home next to my rook. Fuck what he say? Cut I get Andre block. What a rook. How you doing out there, man? No, no, G. You learn something new every day on Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoop, whoop. So when it comes to Kyrie saying calling someone unk at 32 is crazy. Facts.

We asked the chat. Kyrie is unk. 58% said facts. 42% said cats. We got a lot of young heads in the chat. We appreciate y'all. You should have broken down Big Bro, Unc. Young OG. Young OG.

Young OG. What's up, Young OG? That's just a dude that's like anywhere from 35 to about 45 that just, he look like he been there before. Fab. Jim Jones. Jim Jones and Fab, yeah. Fab, name and shit, Young OG. Yeah, Jim Jones. Jim Jones. Jim Jones and Fab, yeah. Fab. Fab name and shit. Young OG.

Yeah, you know what I mean? Fab, Young OG. Like the way Kendrick rap, he get OG, hey OG. OG now? He could be. He could be considered Young OG. And the album is, yeah. He could be considered Young OG.

It's just time out before we move on. Hold on. Young OG. Hold on, hold on. We got to break the news here in the arena. Oh, no. Oh, more than that. You listen to that new Kendrick? No, I just listen to it.

I've critiqued it and... You didn't play that motherfucker. You didn't play that bitch. Everything, yes. I haven't got past her. Days, like, when I'm in, when I want to listen to something, I'm like three, four, five, six days straight of listening to nothing else. I won't deviate.

I will listen to the same over a repeat, repeat. Like, so. Well, come on. Because I'm a lyrical guy. I need to hear what you're saying. So I got to be in the car at a certain volume. And I'm getting the. You've got to be charged.

Them acoustics from that Mercedes is, you know,. You know, got that good sound system, right? Just taking a different... But, yeah, absolutely. Man, welcome back. I'm with it. You like it? No, I ain't never said it could not. I'm still stuck on the only three songs. You still ain't got past that?

No, I haven't got past that. Last album, Mr. Morales. The Super Bowl, there's some other stuff you hear you know, I'm on squabble up TV off. Oh, yeah, that's a boo. Those are the only three songs I heard on the album It's gonna take another six. I'm still listen. I'm gonna tell you have your play in four o'clock. I start off Like that, yeah Euphoria mmm first First person shooter mode.

Oh, no, no, no. I'm sorry. That's what I most listen to. You listen to three people. I go to first person shooter mode. I start off as soon as I get in the car. Like that. Push-ups, euphoria, family matters, not like us, squabble up, TV off,

peek-a-boo, don't, Family Matters, Not Like Us, Squabble Up, TV Off, Peekaboo, Don't Kill My Vibe, Fuckin' Problem, Poetic Justice, Collar Greens, Spin About You, Rich Flex, On B.S., Way Too Wavy, Broke Boys. Okay. And trust me, I'm going to get all of those songs in before I get back home.

I respect it. You skipping through them? Huh? You skipping through them? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Because he is not letting that shit rock. Not at all.

He ain't one of them. He's not just doing that and turning away. So I'm listening to Kendrick all the way through For sure now. Well just as of late big acts the plug Yeah, I'm only two three person yeah You gotta give big X I'm saying big X from Dallas, man. He gonna have to get in the beef. Yeah. He gotta get on Gil's radar. So, K.A.

And Paul Wall got a new album out, man. Shout out to the People's Chair, Paul Wall. Paul Wall got a new album out. Paul Wall can rap, dog. Like, really can fucking rap. The People's Chair. I like beefs, right? No, no, what I mean is I like,

like when Ja Rule and 50 was going at or Ja Rule and Rick Ross That's my playlist, but I do that. I do the beef playlist, right? So you want to see like Jay like Jay like it'd be like so I'll just take two people like when Kanye and you know 50 was going that like they did a little fake beef I'm just going through and just back and forth back and and forth. Like, that's how I listen to my music. So who's the best beat player? It got to be them.

Who got the best beat player? It would have been 50 Kanye. Because, you know, all the songs that they, I get the ride. Even though they don't have beef songs, just that music. No, no, no, music. No, no, no, no, no. Just that music. I know what you're saying. songs, just that music. No, no, no, music. No, no, no, no, no. I know what you're saying.

Because I pretend I'm both up and I'm trying to figure out who won. It's some weird shit that just gets me through the day. That shit started when I first retired. That's where it came from. And when I retired and I got to drive from here all the way downtown, downtown back,

that's a two-hour ride. Oh, yeah, for sure. So, you know what I mean? So I'm making some... The best beef got to be the bad boys, downtown back. That's a two-hour ride. Oh, yeah, for sure. So, you know what I mean? So I'm making some... The best beef got to be the bad boys in death row. If we're going music for music. It's not necessarily beef. It's just if they say something about each other, I just...

Like, I'll do DMX at 50 Cent. Huh? Bad boy ain't saying nothing. Yeah. But I just think the music... Because they couldn't. Because they knew what we were doing over here. Like, we just going, music-wise?

I'm just, I'm, I was heavy in that East Coast beef, man. Oh, you was? Man, listen, dawg. When Kiss and them was going with 50, listen, dawg. Those were good old days. Smack, D-B-D. Dawg, hey, man. Going up to the radio, them, dawg, killing it.

So, Kenya, uh... What's up? The chat, proud to hear that you've listened to GNX by Kendrick Lamar. Have ordained you as an official Los Angelino. We have your blue bandana coming. Fresh pair of Chucks. All right, cuz.

Hey, look, hey, hey. But the real shit is I have one pair of Chucks in my collection, low tops. What color are they? Yeah. What color are they? Yeah. What color? Crip blue. Crip blue.

Navy blue. Crip blue. No, they definitely blue. I got one pair. Yeah, I got a pair of Chucks in my collection. One pair. Yes. And with that, we will move on to Mostly Fans.

Damn, this 210. Presented by Underdog. Download the Underdog app, promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. So we announced earlier that the whole cast, the sign extensions with Underdog, GIL's Arena, will keep coming to you. But they also said in the article

that we're coming for the Square Media. But we're in our own lane. We're not worried about y'all. Y'all can't do what we do. We see y'all trying. Shout out to all the fans that have supported us in this journey. If you want to see dinosaurs,

go to Jurassic Park. All right. Let's keep it moving. Or turn on cable TV. Sit there and watch commercials. Oh, baby. No, I'm just being honest. They say TV ratings is down because I guess they haven't figured out

where it moved. Digital. Over here. These motherfuckers, I'm going to just be honest. Just the concept of views, y'all. Views is down. Just like Toys R Us thought people was, they wasn't buying toys. Let them know, Gil.

We're at 40% of the toys. They wasn't walking into Toys R Us no more. They was buying them shits online. We're at 40% of the toys at? On Amazon. Same thing with views. Nobody might be watching cable, but goddammit,

they're consuming it somewhere else. Keep up. Walk into your trap. I'm just hanging over your trap. Because we over here. Yeah, we don't play with toys no more. We watch other kids play with toys. But somebody's playing with toys,

I can tell you that. So, question today from Underdog user Underdog Nomad. If you could make a Dream Finals matchup we never got to see, what would it be? If you could make a Dream Finals matchup we never got to see, what would it be? Say it again. If you could make a Dream Finals matchup that we never got to see, what would it be? Dream, oh, ooh, okay. Dream Finals matchup. So I got to see what would it be dream oh okay dream fucking pick any matchups a dream finals matchup we never got to see what would

it be do they have to be playing in the same era Gil this is your show you cut the checks oh sorry you said an old man same area I can't dream for you at That's a 2014 Cavs. That would have been a good ass matchup. I would have liked to see them in the final three. But they got to be in the same time frame. 14 Cavs or 15? No, no, no.

Miami. Oh, okay. The Heat. The Heat-Miami versus that Laker back-to-back. The two motherfuckers go at it. But, okay. I'll play by the rules. Gil, it is your dream.

You cut the check. I'll say... Let me think. Let me it. But, okay. I'll play by the rules. Gil, it is your dream. You cut the check. I'll say... Players, teams? Players or teams? Josiah. Hmm? Players or teams?

Or is it just... Teams. Teams? If you could make a Dream Finals matchup we never got to see, what would it be? You guys can do what you want. Okay, I'm got to see what would it be you guys can do it Okay, I'm just I'm just also don't matter. We don't matter where's but but uh So let's just stick with now. I would love to have seen Colby and Bronn playing finals together

Obie and Bronn. Yeah Yeah Yeah, I was realistically possible in oh nine. Yes, Cavs lost in the conference final. Yeah. By a rigged system. Then when... Yeah. I'm trying to think back in some early 2000s.

Or Mike not retiring, them meeting, matching up with Houston and Akeem, them. For the four? Because... 94, they was coming off three-peat, then Mike not stepping away. We talked to Vernon Maxwell, he said the Rocks would have no issue. That's what he said. I would have said the same shit too. Okay.

But realistically... Y motherfucker just won. Y'all said he won his money for Vincent Askew. Y'all had the same team. Akeem was in Houston and saved them three years before that, God damn it. So I ain't trying to hear that shit. I heard the words that came out of Vernon's mouth, yes, but realistically, y'all had your opportunity.

That motherfucker just won three straight. I would have liked to see the Bulls' first championship against the Detroit Piston. Two-nature competition? The team that won the championship. I want to see... Because it's easy to...

Like, the window was missed, right? Where the team that was beating on you, that had you going in the weight room, by the time you got to show your muscles, they wasn't them anymore. Expansion draft, I believe. He kind of fucked up the lineup, so I would have loved to see, like,

when y'all got strong and say, yo, we ready to fight, to see if y'all was actually ready to fight. Right? They were done. I think we've seen some of the best, besides Kobe and Braun, two titans playing,

Magic and Bird, that was perfect for the 80s because they were all great at the same time battling for the most part most of ours was Western Conference finals games right and Eastern Conference finals games where the real Titans is really playing against each other yeah all right I mean, unless we see a Philadelphia versus Denver in the

finals, I mean, people will get excited about that because you got two MVPs at the same position going. But Skechers versus 361. It's rare where you get greatness at the same... In the same position that can control a game and you got to stop each other.

That's rare. Usually it's like a big and a small, you know what I mean? So, as I said, the 80s Bird versus Magic, that was perfect, right? Yeah, it probably don't... It probably don't get no better than something like that. How do you feel about KD saying that the 2017 was the best finals ever? At the highest competition? No, because when he joined them, it was a mismatch. He offset the greatness in the matchup, right?

It was like Braun versus the three of them, right, at the time. It was like this little back and forth. When KD joined, yeah, we, I mean, no one was... It tilted the scale. Yeah, no, it just... I didn't know we was bringing rockets.

Like, I know you have a rocket over here, but I didn't know y'all was bringing your own. It was one of those things, so... All right, well... I wish they would have got... I mean, if they would have got... How old was D. Wade when... Ah, yeah.

They just miss it. I just... They did with the Kobe. Like, that... Yeah, Kobe Braun. Kobe Braun. All right, well, on. Yeah, Kobe Braun. Kobe Braun. All right, well, on that note, appreciate all y'all. Another productive show here in the arena.

Thanks, everybody, for pulling up. Football. Thank you to everybody in the chat. Huh? Football. Yeah, you're... Football. Because we're in the fucking... Come on. Who?

What two teams that didn't... that would have been a great Super Bowl that didn't meet up in history? I don't know. That's for Kenyon Martin. Aaron Rodgers versus Tom Brady. Fair. I'm waiting for Kenyon. Okay. I wish Peyton Manning was in the NFC

or Tom Brady was in the NFC. Ooh. Ah. During their... Because I think Peyton would have had more than one had he been on the other side. They just had the Patriots and the AFC all them years. So Tom got seven. Peyton, so he did, but he's still in the AFC.

Packers versus Patriots with Ben. He said Aaron Rodgers, Patriots. And before we go, Gil, I saw that Elijah was at the USC-UCLA game last night Packers versus Patriots with Ben. He said Aaron Rodgers, but Patriots. And before we go, I saw that Elijah was at the USC-UCLA game last night with Swaggy P. Wait, what? Got to see them

get their asses busted. No, no, yeah, because he was on his recruiting trip. And I'm sitting there, when the fuck do y'all recruit trip during the week? On a Monday.

Yeah, that's right. I was like, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Yeah, this shit was all over the fucking Sunday, Monday. Like, okay, all right. But got the CSC to get their asses smacked.

I used to say, like, go, bro, and shout out Mick Cronin and the rest of the crew. Shout out to everybody on this couch. Shout out to everybody in the chat

for pulling up, supporting this show. This has been another episode of Gale's Arena presented by Underdog. Woo-woo! We will see y'all tomorrow. He said, all right, that's it.