Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To The Draymond Green CHOKE OUT

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

Gil's Arena Reacts To The Draymond Green CHOKE OUT of Rudy Gobert as Gilbert Arenas and the Gils Arena Crew Break Down the Choke out that took center stage in the NBA last night and debate how many game Draymond will get suspended for his most recent antics. They also breakdown the first meeting of Victor Wembanyama & Chet Holmgren and discuss who is currently leading in the race for NBA Rookie Of The Year before analyzing the incredible starts of Tyrese Maxey and Tyrese Haliburton and debatign who is the best Tyrese in the league. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:06:27 Biggest Sacrifice For NBA Players 0:08:23 Draymond CHOKES OUT Rudy Gobert 0:20:30 Should Draymond Be Suspended? 0:52:18 Gobert's Teammates LET HIM DOWN 0:59:28 Lakers-Grizzlies Scuffle 1:03:44 Are Fights Good or Bad For The NBA? 1:06:28 Ja's Cryptic Tweets 1:12:08 Wemby vs Chet Round One 1:21:49 Who Is Leading Rookie Of The Year Race? 1:31:10 Breaking Down Bol Bol 1:35:58 Gil Talks About The Journey To Success 1:46:06 Who To Blame For Clippers' Losing Streak 1:51:25 MostlyFans 2:06:51 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Make some time It's a care the call I had to get on before way. We good. We good. We go. She got a meeting at 3a We good Rashad McCance will join us in a few, but here's what we got cooking in the arena today. It was the choke scene around the basketball world, but was Draymond really in the wrong for hamming up Gobert? Who was the best Tyrese in the East, Maxie or Halliburton? And the Clippers are still winless in the Harden era,

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You don't want no work? I don't want nothing. No, thank you. I'm good. We'll pull up to Gil's Arena tomorrow to see what we have planned. Alright, we got a lot to get into today, but let's start the show off with a special Mostly Fans question. This one is from Baphos24k.

Question is, what's the biggest thing you've ever had to sacrifice in your life to get to where you are today? Family. That's sad. Me, family. Family and friends.

Yeah, I would agree. Or, like, for me personally right now, like the idea of like even starting a family is like completely on the back burner right now because I just got a lot of stuff I want to accomplish and do still before I can even focus on that. You're young, so you got ample time.

Live your life, travel. Younger term. See, can you help me out? So what's the biggest sacrifice? Yeah, just time with your family. Yeah, family. Yeah, family. Yeah, missing out on things, not being present because you locked in.

And how hard is that? Obviously, y'all both have kids, missing birthdays, special occasions, holidays. Man, our sacrifice starts, I mean, when you make it into the top tier level of your profession, it starts, it started there, right? You know, not being a kid, right? When your friends wanna go to Magic Mountain

or your friends wanna do something, you gotta be locked in, you know, working on your craft. So, you know, that sacrifice starts early. When you get to the pros, you try to juggle both sides of it, but, you know, for the most part, your sport is going to take over until you're retired, and hopefully you can band-aid whatever fuck-ups you did while you played.

Yeah. So what's it like, obviously? Yeah, I was able, to piggyback on what he said, I was able, when I got done playing, I was able to, that was my focus, like we talked about the other day. I poured my time and energy in trying to, especially with the oldest ones.

They were, throughout my career, they were in school, I was playing on the road, we lived in different places. So it was that. So trying to juggle seeing them, bringing them on the road, bringing them where I'm playing, all of those things that people don't understand. My oldest daughter, them boys, they were fine, but her, it was like when they used to leave to go back home It's just digging you don't do that baby don't do that don't do that, but it's every time so he saw so you start to Build that like damn. I need to be there

And when you're playing the league it feels like you kind of institutionalize you got a schedule routine everything you're used to doing jail Yeah, you know like a nice jail you mean you getting you get compensated I was literally talking to someone this weekend about my my schedule and he like knows he knew nothing about sports I could care less about sports and he was just like So like you can't just like leave When you want I was like leave and go where he's like like if you need to like a mental break or something You can't just like leave when you want. I was like, leave and go where? He's like, like if you need to like a mental break or something, you can't just like leave. I was like, uh, we have frack, like we have off day. If you want to leave on the off day, you can. He's like,

so you really just have to stay and practice and go to games. You can't just go do whatever you want. And I was like, yeah. But for us that's like normal but like for some people like They could never do anything like that. Just be on a consistent schedule for like years and years and years Are you sorry to explain to people it is like it really is like, you know, we from 10 years old we've Soon as we start our sport. We've been in jail In a sense where we've been routine, wake up, eat, go to sleep, practice, wake up, do homework. There's different, you know what I mean?

High school, you got this. In college, you got this. Do this, that, that. So we've been on this road. And then when we get off the road and say, all right, you're free to the world. Oof. I still need a routine. Where's my routine? we get off the road and say, all right, you're free to the world. Still need a routine.

Where's my routine? I had to ask my kids, hey, how old is you? Two. Five? Oh, seven. You are seven. Yeah, how old is the other one? Five. There's two different... Because you miss birthdays, you miss Christmases.

Think about, when you see teams play on Christmas, people don't think... When when you see teams play on Christmas, right? People don't think, when you see a team play on Christmas, the road team ain't home with his kids when the game starts the 26th very next day. All those teams that's on the road

wasn't having Christmas with their kids or Thanksgiving giving. They woke up and left. Yeah, you woke up, left, you know, when we get or her open some presents right now? You don't really get to enjoy any of that and then you're on the road 41 time that means you're away from your family half of the time Yeah, and then in the summer shit you you trying to if it's a you're going into a Season you working out three times a day. So you ain't really present.

You're there in form, but you're not mentally present. And then when you're done, it's like, that's why I was in court. As soon as I got retired, I'm fighting for the kids. That's a game for me. That's the playoffs. Oh, I got all energy for you today. Absolutely. I'm dressing up for you today. Absolutely. I'm dressing up for court.

What you talking about? Stretching and shit? Yeah. I need that time. That's my fight. I need that time. Yeah. Absolutely.

1,000. 50 and 0. I mean, I've had my younger siblings and I have a really good relationship with all my siblings, but I have missed them grow up, essentially. So I have a sister who's only two years younger than me, so we're closer now. But my other two siblings are 21 and 18, and I missed everything.

I'm going to see my sister play next week for the first time in college. She's a senior in college, and this is the first time I've been able to go watch her. Wow. And my brother Anakin is a senior in high school, and I've only seen him play one time. Anakin?

That's a legendary name, though. Yeah, his name is Anakin, yeah. And he's really good. So, like, I've just missed everything. But now I'm finally getting some time to spend with them. But that little, like, high school time that they have, like, is so important. Like, they're still, like, babies to me

because I, like, missed it all. And they're, like, grown. Like, my sister's, like, out out drinking now Anakin is doing who knows what? But to me they're just babies and I've like missed all of it There was one thing that I did I was very fortunate to do when my daughter was young my oldest daughter was younger They used to have father-daughter dance at the school and it always somehow Failed on off day or somehow failed on an off day. Oh, it did?

It failed on an off day. Like, I was worried one year, I had asked my brother-in-law if he could go down there because I didn't know if I was going to be able to make it, and they scared her, because I knew it was coming up, but I didn't know what day they was going to schedule it on, so I had already had him on the hook to do it. She thought he was coming, but it failed on an off day,

so I hopped on one, flew out here, and she was expecting him to show up to the house, and I walked in. Aw. You know what I'm saying? It's stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But it was, somehow, someway, it always fell on the off day.

Man. Which I was able to go, and people, hey, don't you got, I'm like, man, listen, you know, as soon as it's over, nigga, I'm on a jet going back. Like, but nah, it was able to do stuff like that, man. And then, like, when I played here that year for the Clippers, I was able to be around them. Like, that was my part of my decision. I go to Miami.

Like, a huge part. Like, I didn't miss so much time. Now I can be in the same city with them, go to schools, pick them up, all that kind of stuff. I'm like, oh, sure, I'm going to L.A. I thought we had a chance to win as well, but, yeah. But it's stuff like that. You make decisions like that, I'm saying, for family

because of that time. Yeah, people don't realize that. Like, some decisions are made because of, you know, family. Like, towards the end, you know, like, hanging with the kids, having fun, right? And then, like, teams are calling. Like, you're going to come try out. And then I'm like, unless it's the L.A. team, nah. Even with the Big Three, it's like, yo, kids play on the weekend.

The kids play on the weekend. They got games. They're at the point where they, you know, they waiting for you in the crowd. And, like, I can't make it, right? And that's why, you know, Nick had to take over because I couldn't make it. It was priority. It was definitely priority. I'm so okay. Just playing a you know, as soon as big three was starting like I Ain't gonna be it is weak I'm looking at the schedule. Yeah, I'm gonna be in Augusta. I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna be like no

yeah, you got to put that time in when you can and and when you When you in it, I said like it it's just so you numb and you got tunnel vision, man. So when you can lock in for other stuff, then do it. Because they need it. Yeah. Do you guys feel like your kids play better when y'all are in the stands at the game? Yeah.

My daughter right there. You play better? You play better, don't you? Yeah. But it's not like we played Elijah lot of you every day you in the stands But obviously you got his coach shout out Dax brooms like great coach But he could look at you and just get that little bit of knowledge advice whatever reassurance like, you know I see obviously your son was playing too with Cleveland

It's like just to be able to look up at y'all in the stands and have that that reassurance that you're a voice man Your voice louder than anybody else? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, no, yeah, his voice is. Oh, yeah, mine is louder. Yeah, I'm loud at the games. Not too ashy on the show. Nobody can...

I came as Steve Austin. He's white, he don't wear low-ship shit. I was in full character. Sometimes we be ashy on Gil's arena. I was in full character. I know, I see y'all over here nitpicking. I go ahead. The only show in the game where you can watch the talent

moisturize on air. So don't tell me they zoomed in on you. Probably did one of these. They probably zoomed in on us. Oh, no, they're good for that. If you put the ashy elbow up even for a split second, it's free-spread. Oh, for ashy elbows. I'm loud, man, I'm loud at the games.

But, no, I'm having that reassurance. Them look up there, and you... They know that if it's not going good, having a bad day, not shooting well, or whatever the case may be, they ain't getting a bad whistle or something like that. And being able to look over there, and be like... Relax.

Just that little sometimes is enough. Yeah. No, that little sometimes is enough. Yeah. No, that's important, man. But, all right, we got the chat out here jumping, buzzing. Y'all came early today, and we appreciate y'all. We know why y'all here. We know why y'all here. We know why.

Kenya's here today. We got to talk about it. So after telling the world how dumb they look, trying to tell Draymond how to be Draymond, Draymond showed everyone how to be Draymond in the Warriors' second straight game against the Wolves. Things started to brew in game one when Dray and Ant-Man got into it,

and they turned all the way up in game two. Dang, I forgot that. Less than two minutes into the game, Klay Thompson and Jay McDaniels got into it. And the scuffle broke out. Then Draymond rushed to the scuffle, proceeded to choke out Rudy Gobert, while his Wolves teammates, mainly Cat and Edwards, tried to come. But it was, you know, he didn't really want that smoke.

They did little to help him. I mean, look, when you're watching the video, it feels like, and I'm not going to try to put myself in Gobert's mind, but it feels like he's a Frenchman. They genuinely don't like conflict. He was trying to be a peacemaker. And they're like, he was used to this. And then Draymond said, no, not today. He was ready to take it. He was tapping out, too.

Look, he's saying, Steve. He's like, no, no, no, no, no. Steve Kerr wasn't trying to get Van Gundy, so he did the fake breakup thing. Oh, like these two. Like, what? But two minutes into the game, during the end-season tournament, you know Adam Silver got to feel some type of way about this. We got another ankle.

I like that we have multiple game broadcasts. We really got to get the feel and the flavor for it. Yo. Okay. I'm fucking crying. The entire coaching staff runs over. But in addition to the fight, you know, we talked about iconic NBA photos now we have this iconic photo of Yeah, yeah, you shout out Koli make friend of the program can't remember the last time an image went instantly quadruple platinum like this

You know the best part about these moments NBA Twitter Oh, look it. He's trying to kill him. And you know the best part about these moments, NBA Twitter. So naturally, the internet did what the internet does. Oh, shit. The memes were flying. Yo, Twitter. Not our band. Seen this movie before? Don't call for your mama.

Call for your mama. Go in. I got hate for niggas like you. No, you do not. So, yeah, they got the Melvin choking Jodi and Baby We're Men. It's a profile picture, too. It's J-Mo choking them. How did you guys do that?

We also had to show some love to Chappelle's show. The Mad Real World. The Mad Real World. Oh, my. Hey, man, that chokehold. Oh, my. Hey, man, that choke hold was nice, man. It was the million-dollar choke hold by, what was it, Tim? What was the wrestler's name? Ted.

Yeah. There you go, Ted. He's been practicing. Whatever happened to Virgil? He just was, you know, just a hangout guy. He got to wrestle a little bit. Wiping his hands with the hundreds and throwing a bit of trash. Dude. So, after the game, hundreds and throwing a bit of trash. Dude.

So after the game, Gobert called the choke clown behavior. I bet he did. And took a shot at Dre. He said, every time Steph doesn't play, he doesn't want to play without his guy Steph. So he does anything he can to get ejected. Yeah, he didn't plan on that today. Gobert also said it was a long time, and if he knew how to choke it, he could have been way worse.

His intention was to take me out. That's according to the Athletics' John Krasinski, Sam Amick. But we got to go back to that Draymond pull punch. If y'all remember, Gobert was the one that tweeted, insecurity is always loud at Draymond after that happened. So Kane, you made your way to the show, you know, on your day off. You're a resident fight expert. Oh, am I?

Thoughts on Draymond choking out Gobert? For one, this shit is hilarious. Let's just throw it there. Let's just throw it there. Right there, you fool. Sacre bleu! Where did you get that? So let me, so let me...

Same place Rudy got his, CVS. Oh, my. Oh, shit, man. Look at that. Go, King. You're Draymond. Hey, so... Get back, Rudy.

Shit. Consumer values... But there's some bullshit going on, man. Yo. But there's some bullshit going on out here. First and foremost, don't grab your fucking teammate, man. Don't grab the other guy.

That's like, and from the angle that Draymond had, it looked like the dude was trying to grab his teammate. Like, he was trying to, like, it looked like he was trying to do the same thing that got done to him. Yeah. Right? From the angle that he had, it looked like he was trying to do the same thing to him.

Listen, yo, man. You know, you try to do the same thing him listen. Yo, man You know, I'm all for the bullshit all the time. Like you know, that was that was one for the ages That was the Rudy Tom John of his punch. That was the Kermit Washington Rudy T punch for our generation right there That's what that was. That's the new That's like the malice in the palace happened, all that shit. But him choking him on the court is the first, man. Yo. And then why?

Stop it right here. Stop it. Stop it. Yo. A little leap. When he say stop it. You got to say it three seconds in advance. You got to hit the button.

But people, hey. Look at Clay's jersey. Look at Clay's jersey. Right there. Yo. Dude. Hey, man. All right. Look at Clay's jersey. Right there. Yo. Dude. All right, look. My only question is, right?

Draymond can get choked too. Carl! Carl! Get your choke on. Make it a train. Make it a train. Make it a train. Somebody going to choke you.

But, yo. You get a choke, but when it all started, right, our wonderful man Chris Paul is the closest thing to the action. Please rewind it to the beginning. Beginning of when they first started, CP got the ball, right? Look, they dribble it. Stop it. He's the closest thing to the action. CP puts the ball on his hip. He picks it up like he's going to the fucking park.

And walks towards the action like, you guys cut it out now. No sense of urgency whatsoever, man. Can we play it? Play it. Look at him. He's the closest thing to the action and just and just gradually put the ball on his hip like One issue the art but there yo so when I started down I watched some more right my first thought I see Steve Kerr And the first thing that popped in my head was Craig Craig put the gun down son put the gun down

Juma Juma Juma Juma and he don't see number black Yo, man, he told me shit I just do a man Rudy a man Rudy better come Right. Yo, hey man. Listen, yo. Rudy, Rudy, Rudy. My neck, my back. Hey. My neck and my back. So the only other time I seen somebody get choked like this was my rookie year.

Oh, yeah, because he was going to choke up Clay. Yeah, he was getting ready to choke Clay. That's what it looked like. He was trying to make Lay Peace.

Right. What makes him the Peace Maker? The only time I seen somebody get choked like this, Jim, Kendall Gill choked Jim McEllvain in practice damn My rookie year until my kid you in this motherfucker. I trained to fight every day and he was choking him

Just like that. That's the only time I see somebody get choked So okay watching the video someone pointed out that Draymond tucked his chin in Got what is called hand control and MMA. Absolutely. So that he couldn't get in a rear chokehold. Yeah, but I'm saying he was supposed to try and choke him too. But he said no. He tucked his chin. Like, I'm finna listen.

He meant every minute of that choke. Yo. I was probably hitting the snot his nose. The only thing would have been, two things would have been better. If the snot would have came out his nose from choking him and him putting him to sleep.

He getting choked. Yo. Hey. Had he put him to sleep. He getting choked. Yo. Hey. Had he put him to sleep by third, like, real quick, you know, the moves don't take long for you to go out. Man. And tight as he was trying to, had he put him to sleep for 30 seconds,

and they would have had to, hey, him. Man, listen, dog. Hey. This is the ghetto I love it that's the club you know like there's always one dude getting drunk at the club and they getting carried out there just like I just think because

it was Draymond and Rudy Gobert that's just what made it even funnier like those two have you seen anything like this on the WNBA side or in college? There was a brawl in the WNBA a while ago with the Sparks, Candice Parker. I forgot who else was in it, but someone was like getting dragged from the free throw line. It's on YouTube. I looked it up yesterday.

It was like a big deal. But isn't it funny how these moments. I think it was Detroit Shock and the Sparks. And Candice was like real young. And it was like this. deal. But isn't it funny how these moments... I think it was Detroit shocking the Sparks. And Candice was like real young. And it was like this. Yes, the Sparks shocks. Yeah, I remember that. She was dragging her.

Someone was getting dragged. But in these moments, when you see those things happen, it makes you want to go back down memory lane on YouTube and just look at old... Yeah, because someone had tweeted me. They're like, what's the WNBA equivalent? And I was like, oh, yeah, that for sure. Dog.

That was a while ago, though, but I remember it happening. Hey Yeah A few people get whatever you ever in the go-barrel. I've seen Drez being snatched out somebody's head. But it was our big man was fighting. And then one of the players actually locked the other player's arms in

trying to grab him, not realizing he was the victim at this point. Yeah. Right. So he locked the dude's hands up, and the other player had the Drez all free shot. Yeah, see? It just didn't sound manly when he was punching them.

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Yeah, I was just saying, that's really how it sounded.

And then when it broke up, he was like, tell your friends about me. So, you know, we got some comedians on the team. Oh, shit. No, man. We got some friends. Yeah, don't grab me, man. Like, I'm a firm believer. Don't grab me, dog.

Like, we got into it when the preseason went down. Well, with the Lakers and us, we got into it. And one of our assistant coaches grabbed me. I said, dude, had I got punched, I'm going to get him and you next. Because, dog, don't grab me, man. Like, you can stand in between us and try to, but don't fucking hold my hand.

Don't do that, man. Like, Rudy, go take care of your teammate. Mind your business, bro Should have been going over there easy dude got you choked out Hey, that's what yeah, thank you. That French shit. Don't work over here boy. Not in sagging on, Michigan Mm-hmm Well, it wasn't it wasn't as we had okay We had one before the malice in the palace when I was in Golden State. We was playing against a trailblazers

Yeah, we had that fight that someone has that on recording they need to go ahead and throw that out there doubt it I mean chairs was being picked up. I had to pick up a chair. I bet you did Yeah, cuz it was a rude and Patterson. I bet you did was a Squaring up with Jason Richardson, like, nah, we're going to jump him. We don't have to. We both picked up the chair. See what he's saying in life? See, I wasn't in the room. See, he got one. See, Rube got the retard mistake.

Yeah, like, come on. What he said in life, right? Mentally challenged. Quoting a movie. It's a quotable. I didn't say it. It's a quotable. It's a quotable.

I can say it's a quotable. I come from Caves, but this is a quote from a movie. Rube Dumpstone. He was with us. I went to college with him. Trust me. Give me a back your ass up. Yeah, Rube Strong

as they come. So yeah, if he coming towards you I suggest. We both picked it up like nah bro. Once he get going ain't gonna be no turning him off on things. And the funny part is the reason it wasn't a big thing is because the crowd did get in get involved yeah and a couple trailblazers walk the ass up them stairs because they was getting shit thrown on them they just didn't in the way that it

ended in Detroit yeah players got their ass whooped running them Oakland stands. Oakland stands, yeah. Oh, yeah, they got their ass whooped. Players was whooping their ass. I mean, fans was whooping their ass. Oh, hell no. Yeah. I can't imagine that happening now. Dude. I wonder what, honestly, fuck them tweets, Rudy. Fuck you actually feeling today.

Like, what are your thoughts that you got your ass choked out for the world to see? And this is not MMA. Choked out. You got to sue. My neck is broken, bruised. I can't play. You got to do something. You went to grab that man, and it didn't pan out the way you thought.

Not at all, man. So you thought he was just going to break it up. So the Warriors argued that Draymond was just coming to the defense of his teammates. Yeah, he was. But NBA officials deemed Gobert to be a peacemaker. Wrong. Although he did briefly appear to put his arm around Kray's neck. Of course.

Well, if you really look into it, dive into it, no. Look at the, slow it down, look at him. If you're looking from a certain angle and you... The beginning of it. The beginning of it, from the way Draymond was and how he ran and his angle looked like the man's hands was like trying to... He was trying to do the same thing?

Yeah, it looked like he was trying to do the exact same thing. So no, you're not going to choke him. Four people just not enough. We need another opinion on the subject. Let's bring in Rashad McCants in the building. Applause. Welcome. Every go to state game, they got to start passing these out.

Draymond on the court. You rocking the steps? Draymond on the court. Are you team warriors in this situation or are you on Gobert's side? Did he deserve to get choked out? No, he didn't deserve to get choked out. Why not? Why would he deserve to get choked out?

Because you grabbed a teammate. Did you see him? Did you see him? He was trying to stop the... Did you see him choke out Clay? So guess what? He can try to stop it. Grab your teammate.

Grab your teammate. Did you see him try to choke out Clay? You saw the angle? Come on. Let's be real. He tried to choke out Clay. Show it! Shawty, I'm with you. Shawty. He's trying to break it up.

Y'all stop capping. Shawty. Look. He winning. I'm with you. He's trying to break it up, but grab your teammate. Dre Morgreen. Stop.

Grab your teammate. No, I'm trying to get... Grab your teammate. Whoever's in the way, you grab. He should be grabbing McDaniel. Whoever's doing whatever, you grab him. Grab your teammate. Why is he grabbing McDaniel?

Go backwards. No. Grab your teammate. You should be grabbing McDaniel. Go backwards. No. Grab your teammate. No. No.

I need to pause. So, Sean, let me ask you this. It is not how it goes down. Sean, Sean. When Chris Paul got you. Sean, let me ask you this. When Chris Paul got you. Let me ask you this. Had he grabbed, listen.

Yo, let me ask you this. Had he grabbed Klay, right? We grabbed Klay. What if McDaniels punched him? Then what? Go forward a little. I mean, that's a lot. That's adding on a lot.

So, therefore, instead of grabbing a dude from the opposite team, grab your teammate. If you're trying to play peacemaker, right? I'm Rudy Gobert. I'm trying to stop whoever is fucking up the vibe right now. Grab your teammate. If you're trying to play peacemaker, right? I'm Rudy Gobert. I'm trying to stop whoever is fucking up the vibe right now. Grab your teammate. Look at this. Look at his hands.

He's getting ready to try to show play. He's holding him back. Y'all, are y'all serious? And look where Draymond coming from. Look where his hand is. And look where Draymond coming from. Look where his hand is. It's on his neck.

Look where Draymond coming from. Look what he's doing. He's breaking them two up, clearly. Grab your teammate. Who are? He's not near his teammate. The ref has got the teammate. He's breaking them two up, clearly. Grab your teammate. He's not near his teammate. The ref has got the teammate. He's right there. I'm going straight past Clay and getting Dales.

They're like, look at CP, though. Yo, look at CP. Fuck all that. Yo, look at Chris Paul. His hand is on his neck. Yeah. Y'all serious? His hand is on his neck?

Look at Chris Paul, though, man. So somebody's got to grab you like that. That's crazy. Listen, I know that I'm trying to fuck this dude up. What you mean? Whoever grabbed me just trying to stop it. Period. At this point, I'm trying to fuck him up.

Whoever stopped me is trying to stop it. It don't matter who it is. But why didn't Rudy get ejected then? So why didn't Rudy grab his teammate instead of grabbing the dude from behind? You said why didn't he? Because he didn't do nothing. Because Draymond stopped him. He didn't do it.

He was breaking it up. That's why they clearly didn't give him nothing. He was trying to break it up. Yo, look where Draymond's coming from, though. However he can. Look at the angle Draymond's coming in from. Okay, so look. You hold in a player however you think you could to break him up,

and his teammate don't have a right to do what he did? Huh? My teammate's supposed to protect me. We're breaking it up. And I'm breaking you to break that up. But we're not breaking nothing up. All you're doing is just causing bullshit. You just come in with bullshit.

I don't know what you're doing. All I see is my light-skinned teammate about to get his ass choked out in my job as an enforcer. So you're just jumping in. Yeah. Absolutely. You just jumped in. No, I didn't. I'm trying to break it up.

Grab your teammate. I'm not jumping in. If I was jumping in, I would have jumped on. Grab your teammate if you're trying to play it up. I'm not jumping in. If I was jumping in I'd have jumped on Grab your teammate if you trying to play peacemaker. I would have really did something. What is Goldberg doing? He's holding him off. Why? Because they was in a scuffle. Grab your teammate. They was in a scuffle. Grab your teammate. I'm grabbing whoever is in the scuffle. Guess what? Grabbing him got you choked the fuck out. So what is Draymondon doing? There's unfortunate

Nigga suck a shit If Rudy is grabbing someone who's getting ready to fight what is Ramon doing listen, this is not dream on his first time doing this It's a kind of behavior This is called behavior. Okay, behavior from me too. This is bullshit. And so she can grab you. Y'all know it. Keep your hands to yourself. And I can't grab her. What you mean?

Keep your hands to yourself. She's stopping you from fighting. Okay, why do you need to touch me? Why do you need to touch him? I'm touching who? Yes. Why does Clay need to be touched by Rudy? What did you just say the scenario was just now?

She's touching you. Y'all are fighting. I'm fighting. So why does she need to grab you just what did you just say the scenario was just now she's watching I'm fighting So why do you grab me? Now why do you need to grab me? Why does she need to grab you because I'm What you mean That's between you two ref and the player are breaking it up the other reference right there So even if the wise All day he was the biggest fastest one to get there.

He was the biggest fastest of him too. And get choked the fuck out. So you defending him? Who? Absolutely. Absolutely. You put your hand on my teammate. Look where he coming from, Shad. Shad, look at this angle. That's crazy. Look at this angle.

You can't ignore the fact. Look at this angle. I've seen it already at this angle. That's crazy. You can't ignore the fact. Look at this angle. I've seen it already, man. So, therefore, the angle he coming in at, this man see his arm like this. Y'all tripping. So, therefore, you're going to get choked out. Y'all tripping. Exactly what happened.

Y'all tripping. Grab your teammate. The problem is, you hate Draymond so bad, you can't even see facts. I ain't got nothing to do. Listen, you can't even see facts. If Draymond don't do this. I'm not saying nothing. If Rudy doesn't... You done stepped on your teammate.

Like the WWE. Hold on. You done punched him. You done punched the teammate. We're not gonna do that. And now you choking the nigga? No, no, no. What we're gonna do is from the beginning. That's crazy, bro. Rudy don't get choked out if he don't grab his teammate. Can we say that? So I'm gonna use one of your... Rudy don't get choked out if he don't grab his teammate?

Is that? Can we say that? So I'm going to use one of your- Who don't get choked out if Clay and McDaniel- I'm going to use one of his phrases. Let's go back from the beginning. I'm going to use one of your phrases. Rewind it from the beginning.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Keep the fucking hands of yourself. Go back from the beginning. All right. Keep the hands of yourself. All right. Here we go. Two players. It's just them two, right? You got to grab your teammate. It's hands to yourself. All right. Here we go. Two players.

It's just them two, right? You got to grab your It's just them two. So far. One on one. We cool, right? You see Rudy. Yes.

Yeah, and we see Draymond. Yeah. Right? So we all watching this. We all watching this. Okay, cool. Now, fast forward a little bit. So what's the first thing

that needs to happen? The first thing. Here we go. Stop it. What's the first thing that needs to happen? The ref is you go. What's the first thing that needs to happen? The ref is there. Hold on. Stop it.

Stop it. Hey, hold on. Hold on. Instead of him going towards fucking Klay right now, grab your fucking teammates. What's the first thing that needs to happen right now? Him grab his goddamn teammates. They need to stop the fighting. Who?

Whoever can stop it. Grab your teammates. Let's see what happens. Stop it. Hold on. Stop it. Stop it right Who? Whoever can stop it. Grab your teammate. Let's see what happens. Stop it. Hold on. Stop it. Stop it right now. Don't move it.

He is close to his fucking teammate. Grab your teammate. I heard you. You don't get choked the fuck out. You grab your teammate right now. You don't get choked out. That ain't got nothing to do with anything. That ain't got nothing to do with anything.

Now play it. Right. Not there. Now. Now Now you want to break it up. I'm trying to break it up. Go bear goes for the waves first. Dumb. Yeah, he goes crazy. That's crazy. I'm not trying to show up as love.

Yeah, I'm tripping. Hold on. So what do you call this? So what is what is what is that's like Steven Adams trying to choke out people that be getting into the loose couples with Josh. Just honestly choking, nigga. Instead of just moving them out the way, listen, man, y'all niggas move out the way.

Stop. Y'all stop. Please. He's doing that to everybody, not just my teammates. Hey, look, man, y'all move. Y'all chill. What's all this? If somebody on the other team chokes out Steven Adams are they wrong?

But they wouldn't how you know that I can we get a hold up They not gonna try to suck the shit with Steven Adams or anybody else Guarantee if Steven Adams grab clay like that Draymond gonna choke the shit out him too So it's like ain't nobody ride I go bear where's the other angle well, that's why this is because Break it up Why would you not go after your own because? Because you go after whoever's involved. It don't matter. Yeah, your teammate involved. It don't matter.

Y'all making it. The fuck are you talking about? Here's the angle. Stop it right here. Y'all saying that is making it. So this is two. Talking about go after who's involved. Yeah, your fucking teammate involved.

So go grab your teammate. Fast forward a little bit. Fast forward a little bit. And when you don't, you put your hands on other people. That's what happens to you. So the palace in the palace was other people on the other team trying to break look go bear Try to go for the way stop bringing up shit. We talking this right here go Rudy's over right now as a teammate. It's a two verse one. It's not a two verse anything

We don't know who to go first intentions. No, I don't know his intentions. Oh, what are you talking about? It's basketball man. It's not the fucking straight in the streets brawling We brought Why do you think no by her me a punch motherfucking Rudy Tom John because he was running up He was running up to us. He didn't know what that man's intentions was. Wait, I have a question. Mm-hmm.

What do you think the reaction would have been if Draymond just, like, punched Rudy in the back? Same one he's getting now? I think if he would have hooked him like this, it would probably have been like this. No, but what's up? So Rudy Goldberg's cool touching Clay Hodge. No, fuck that. But then Draymond is wrong for trying to take...

So Rudy is trying to take Clay off his man and Draymond's trying to take Rudy off his man, but Draymond is wrong. Why? I'm trying to figure out your problem. It's never going to look that way. We're going to shut the fuck up. You explain what's going on.

Make it make sense. Fuck shit. Okay, go. No, we want English. Go. Okay. Ebonics. Draymond had no intentions of playing tonight.

Usually when Steph doesn't play, he usually tries to figure out a way to get kicked out of the game. So here, two minutes into the game. Here's a perfect opportunity Play by play clay. What are you doing? McDaniels, what are you doing? Hey, listen you guys break it up. Hey, man, what the fuck is you doing? Leave them alone? No, I'm here for this bullshit late you Y'all paying for the please with the fridge. Come on. Come on man. Somebody's choking me. What the fuck is going on? How did I become the victim here?

Look, I think... This is what you think is going on in their heads? This is just me playing the scene. It can be argued from both ways. He told me to paint the picture.

We got the high-angle camera. We got the high-angle camera. Draymond does not. So all he sees is a big Frenchman trying to hem up a Splash Brother. Did you have to choking?

Now, we'll say the excessive choke the initial choke initial choke fire You could just pull him off. He was trying to go back to Paris for the Olympics To choking should have put me fuck the sleep is what he should have done So punch him he ain't even do nothing to you. You just gonna punch him. Yeah, that's what we say Clayton do nothing Rudy ain't nobody do nothing to nobody They catfight cool dream. I was catfighting to fight you just bigger cat. So you know Nothing out there is happening Let's back for a little bit let's keep going

Now because he got his ass choked up he dream on wrong now We watching the same shit? Kat is grabbing Draymond. Are we watching the same shit? So, what's wrong with Kat? Kat's cuddling Draymond. But what? Are we watching the same shit? Yeah, we're watching the same shit. Okay, so this is too much.

So, Kring. This is too much. Put the gun down, Kring. Look, this nigga Rudy got his hands up. That is too much, Kring. Rudy got his hands up. Like, what's happening right now? Like, after he's...

Like, what's happening? Stop, stop, stop, stop. What's happening right now? So, is Carl Thompson... Is he wrong for doing anything right now? What is he doing? Carl's not doing anything. He's grabbing, trying to grab. What is he doing?

Carl's doing nothing. He's trying to grab. He's doing the same thing Draymond did to Rudy. He's left. Maybe it matters if you said one more time. He's not doing anything. He's trying. He's trying.

But he's not doing anything. He's trying, but is he succeeding? And meanwhile, the two that got into it, over here still about to get into it. Ain't nobody paying them no attention over here. To the right. They still about to get into it. Mike Conley over here trying to play.

I don't know how he doesn't understand just simple Conley. Who? If you two for him, she grabs you to choke you out I'm grabbing her to choke her out Carl Anthony Thompson's trying to take we are trying to take all people that's the story you're painting that's not what I see

Carl Thompson Carl Thompson baby Carl Thompson baby his name is Carl Thompson now hey does anybody have any Kleenex? Because he needs, he said he can't see what we see. He can't see that people are grabbing each other, so he needs to clean them shits. But Gil, Gil, do you agree?

Do you agree with Drake? Does he need to drag him like 30 feet with the chalkboard after that? You can't tell somebody how to react. But Gil Rears already. I can tell you this. This is what we can do on there. I guarantee you Clay Thompson is happy with this situation. I guarantee you Clay is happy. Appreciate you, bro.

If you was Clay, would you be happy with what Draymond did? Oh, for sure. Okay. Appreciate you, bro. So we asked the poll, did Gobert deserve to be choked? We have over 3,000 votes. 50-50 split. What?

That's 50-50 split. What? That's 50-50. Oh, shit. You should be happy. Yeah. I got 50%. You should be happy with it. I got... Oh, shit, because then...

You want to do the math? You want to do the math? The people ain't never been in an altercation. Well, he got more than 50 because it's one versus three. Yeah, half of them. That's what I'm saying. You want to do the math, it's 50. It's not one versus three. I'm a neutral like. That's what I'm saying. You want to do the math, it's 50.

I'm a neutral like Switzerland. But I will say, all right, you can support the initial choke from Draymond. But after dragging him like about 13 feet. Draymond got somebody dragging him too. Shit, it's a drag. It's a drag drag. Charlie Town is backing up. Unfortunately, it's going to cost him for a little bit. Yeah.

If you can agree with this and back this behavior up like this is like cool like this way like him to fit like you have to Man, this is what it is That shit is crazy Keep hands because if I play Thompson in in my teammate don't get Rudy off me There's a problem in our locker room Right. Yeah, so the latest My teammate don't get Rudy off me, there's a problem in our locker room. You're right. Yeah.

So the latest report, he got the nigga off me? Cool! Good job, kid! Yeah! My name. Rolex it! Rolex tomorrow, because I could be on the MIM like this. Yes.

I could be on the MIM. Rudy Gobert didn't learn from the Jordan Pooch, because Jordan Pooch put his hands on the first two, right? No. No, we already said Draymond was wrong for that. No, we didn't. Yeah, we did. I didn't hear you say it. I didn't. I didn't hear you say it. I didn Draymond was wrong for that. No, we didn't Well, I didn't I didn't hear you see it. I didn't say How was we arguing you down keep your hands yourself we can't go back and I said it was me it was me

He was neutral, bro, it was me This is when I was brought your hands yourself, you know the problem 47 no, hold on hold on since you bring that 47% up The problem with 47 is a little post. No, no This is the problem with 47% Jake. You asked me a question first, right? You asked him the question He goes last he decides to go against us and then he says y'all jumping me how you can't do that i'm not going against anything i just have a different perspective than what y'all have okay then you can't say i'm not going to jump in you on a

conversation if we went first not when you when i say my, if I say my piece and then y'all try to tell me that I'm wrong after saying my piece, that's like y'all jump. Y'all are like, what's up? I just said my piece. Y'all want me to change my piece? If we both say we like blue and you say you like red and we defending blue, we not jumping you. We win first.

I'm not going against red, though. Yeah, you are. No, I'm not. I just chose blue. How about this? We're going to start doing this. You're going to say some shit like, no, it should be a different shade of red. That red is too dark. It should be.

It should be rose red. It shouldn't be this kind of red. It should be a burgundy. It should be. What's wrong with that? I don't wear any red. What's wrong with that? That's some shit that you would say.

So what? What's wrong with that? So why it just can't be the red that we like? Because I'm not that What's wrong with that? So why it just can't be the red that we like? Because I'm not that type of nigga to say this, this, this, this, this. I got a little bit more complex vocabulary. But why it can't be the red that we like? I got a complex more like way of thinking and looking at shit. I'm not just a one for another day.

I do pie time. That's a conversation for another day. You know what I'm saying? I do some other shit. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to say this. All right. We can't allow Draymond and Gobert to get us this turnt up. We can't allow Draymond and Gobert to get us this turnt up.

We can't allow Draymond and Gobert to get us this turnt up. So the latest reporter from ESPN says a ruling from the league on any further punishment will likely come before the Warriors play tomorrow against the Thunder. So how long do you think Draymond will be suspended? Ten, at least. Damn! Ten? I was going to say five.

Because he was defending. The habitual. No, habitual. The habitual line, Stephanie Claus. Damn! Ten? I was going to say five. Because he was defending so much. Habitual. No, habitual. The habitual line stepping clause. Article A. Been there, done it. Trust me. The more you do, they're going to keep tagging the motherfuckers on. Okay, this was five.

Okay, this is going to be at least ten. How would David Stern have approached this? Ooh, the rest. You're going to jail. He would have... He would have gave him 50. He gave... For something like that, yeah, he would going to jail. He would have. He would have game 50. He would have game 50. Jail.

50? He would have game 25 to 50. 25. It would have been 25 to 50. That range. Easily. I know David Stern. It would have been 25 to 50 in that range.

Easily with David Stern. So y'all think five to 10 is likely what's going to happen? 10 at least. I think 10 at least. I'm going 15. Two? I want two. Two. We got games to. I think 10 at least. I'm going 15. Two? I want two. We got games to win, man.

We ain't got time, man. Listen, tell Rudy to stop getting his ass whooped. He got his ass whooped by one of his guards on the Timberwolves, whooped his ass. Who? What was the other chokehold that I was seeing? Kyle Anderson. He got beat up by Kyle Anderson. Was that the other chokehold?

I don't think they got into it. I'm pretty sure he... Because there was like the Timberwolves always getting choked up, but I. Was that the other football? I don't think they got into it. I'm pretty sure he... Because there was like... The Timberwolves always getting choked up, but I don't remember the other one. They saw. It was like literally someone on the ground being choked up. I don't know who it was.

Oh, no. Two games. Did Gobert... Gobert gave him the lay punch, the fake lay punch on the bench. Yeah. Oh! Hey, hey!

He got his ass within that locker room. Dude. So we thinking five to ten game reign. Yeah in that locker room. Dude. So we thinking fight is in game range? Yeah. I think 10. Wow. I think from both sides of the argument. Watching the fight initially, I was like, Dre's out of pocket.

But looking at the angle and the video evidence. Yeah. The drag was the worst part. And no Steph. So really, it's Steph to blame for all this. I agree. If he would have just played, nothing would have happened. I agree.

Yeah. But him initially choking him to fuck out. Oh, I'm all for it But the drag was absolute and we talked about only found everybody was great Listen Yes, Rudy a listen really can add more if you start He's done You need one I'm trying to figure out why you ain't got niggas. All right, look, I'm going to go get you orange and eat pink, blue. Oh, yeah, pink. The way they going. Pink will be nice.

Yo, if Gobert plays his next game in a neck brace, all is forgiven. I mean, that motherfucker blocking. But my thing is to move forward, right? Like, how you try to be tough on one of your teammates now? Oh, yeah. Like, how you going there and be trying to, like, get some, like, try to be tough on one of your teammates now? Like, how you going there and be trying to, like, trying to be tough on one of your teammates? Like, really? Huh?

You say what now? Don't make me go. I called. I FaceTimed. Oh, it's over for you. That's the sad part about sports. Right? Ain't it?

When people ask about sports, like like what it is in a locker room This yes Don't let me cry. Hey, mom Yeah, we don't let so now as a as a hooper You got to defend yourself at all times in locker room situations because we trying to find anything the only thing worse the only thing worse if is being the find anything. The only thing worse the only thing worse is being the like the last year situation the Draymond and Jordan Poole thing. The only thing that's been on the other end of it.

In the locker room. If y'all involved in the same locker room. That's the only thing worse than being on the opposite end of it. Like y'all you can't say nothing slick to nobody. There's no point that Jordan Poole could have said anything fly out of his mouth after getting dropped There's nothing Rudy can say to nobody tough now that the end will look at you that you a whole really do

Career is there any no Occasion so the thing is do is and can I say this shit about Blake what? Could he have done who? Rudy grab the steaming from from from getting stopping Draymond grab the steaming We have done grab this team what he could have done to stop dreamer not done No, he was already he was already compromised as his teammate as well should have I'm asking like he there was no way for him to defend himself. No. No, he was done. Yes It was so that mean that like they might be there was no way for him to defend himself. No, no, he was done. Yes, it was so that mean that like They might be there was a way from

My came like so there's this like he couldn't see him There's this thing Proactive and reactive, right? In that case, he should have been proactive and grabbing his teammate. Therefore, you wouldn't have to be reactive trying to get this strong-ass, grown-ass man off your neck. God damn it. People don't realize, because everything is reacting so fast, and you have to deal with each other after the fact. Yes.

Right? So they all watch it. I guarantee you somebody says something to Chris Paul. They're like, damn, so you ain't, uh... I know I would have. You ain't gonna do nothing, huh? Chris's been here before.

But you know how it is in the locker room. Chris was the recipient of the fucking punch. But that's what I'm saying. But you know how we judge in the locker room. Like, you know, we, like like it's harsh in that bitch man like Fuck y'all niggas. They help they didn't help me when I got punch First of all said I'm new my nigga. He said I, my name is Bennett. I ain't Bennett. I ain't Bennett. All right, new year. Everybody looking like, mm, who over there?

Trust me. Who over there? Uh-oh, there goes Draymond. There goes Draymond. Uh-oh. When you get hit next time, trust me, you're on your own. Yeah. So do the Timberwolves need a trade for Tristan Thompson,

a.k.a. the Draymond stopper? Oh, shit. No, I'm just... I mean, it was, at this point... Wait, where's he at right now? All I'm saying is, all I'm saying is all I'm saying is you know behind Draymond is Ant-Man And they didn't do nothing Townsend

Closer So now Rudy my question is rude to them man, why y'all didn't get this motherfucker off me, man? That's what we were going to say. Why y'all didn't... Like, why y'all, like, y'all really didn't, like, Anthony Elvis really didn't do anything. At least Carl out of town was like, yo, come on, man.

Hey, man. Hey, guy. Hey, brother. They weren't really the risk. He's sitting up behind him like, hey, brother, get off of him, brother, please, brother, stop it. Stop it, brother. Do we think that's because it was Gobert in the situation? If it's another teammate with an end of step.

No. I'm just saying. Guard, listen, guards is going to help guards. My job helping the big man. What am I supposed to do? So, Kenyon, what would you have done? Time out, time out. What would you have done if you were one of Gobert's teammates...

Everybody was moving the same way. What would you have done if you were one of Gobert's teammates while he's getting choked out by Draymond? I'm going to punch the fuck out of Draymond. Absolutely 1,000%. Yeah, during the dragging. And he don't see it. Listen, 1,000%.

I'm going to rock him. You choking him like that and he can't get loose, I'm not grabbing you. We're in this shit together. Yeah, I'm going to get like 25 because I'm going to try to put you to sleep out there. I feel like the Warriors locker room is better because of this and the Timberwolves locker room. They got some questions. So you think this will be kind of a catalyst moment?

Warriors went on to lose the game. I think they're 6-6 now. Will this help get that team back on the right track? Well, no, because now they're down Steph and Draymond. Draymond loves doing that to them. See, don't nobody plan on going into this situation and doing this? Rudy thought it was planned. Of course he did. He got choked out. Rudy thought it was planned. Of course he did.

He got choked out. Rudy thought it was a planned act. Of course. He going to find any excuse to come up with. Let me go see. Draymond got, he didn't play. Steph didn't play in this game. Neither did Draymond.

Oh, Draymond got kicked. Come on. He really should have been like, next time I see Draymond. Right. Next time I see him, it's on site. Yeah, but he said, you're a clown. I'm not saying that on camera.

You ain't got to say it on camera. No, you got to say that. You say it in a new way. To yourself. You articulate it in a new way. you, yeah, but he said, you're a clown. I'm not saying that on camera. You ain't got to say it on camera. No, you got to say that. You do. To yourself. You articulate it in a way. No, no, no. Come on, shot. You got to say it to yourself.

You know damn well there's 400 other players looking at you. But look, to deflect. You say, oh, he's a clown? He ain't do nothing. He ain't do nothing. Look, if this was me, if it was me, if Gobert was me, I'm approaching it the same kind of way publicly because I know when I see that nigga is up anyway. I'm not going to let it be known like, oh, yeah, when I...

Nah, look, he on some clown shit. That's some bullshit he did. Everybody know it. Everybody seen it. It is what it is. When I see that nigga, though, yeah. Next game. You're going upside his head with a baguette

we just gotta have a conversation we just gotta have a conversation we just gotta have a conversation but you know next game you already gonna know still two day old they gonna be making fun

of you every game yeah it is what it is it is what it is he can't take it back now you supposed to say that for the rest of the league that's looking when I see him it's on for the rest of the league that's looking. When I

see him, it's on sight. The rest of the league ain't acting like that. That's one person in the league that do that shit, bro. They gonna punk. You gonna get punked the rest of the league. Steve Kerr, he watch. Hell nah, man. That ain't no punk shit. That's just some other games I'm gonna start to watch with Steve Kerr. So, we'll monitor the situation. You know what Steve Kerr gonna do.

Yeah, sit him. You know it. He gonna sit him. He gonna... Why would he sit him if it's not going to sit him. Why would he sit him if he did the right thing? He can't protect his fans. Did he do the right thing? Yes. So why would he sit him? I would expect my coach to sit me. I would expect my coach to sit me.

Why would he get suspended? My pit bull ain't got no sense. In this day and age, in this day and age, I would have, no, that game. Just the next one. Like, next time we see them, me being me, in this day and age of NBA, me being who I am and how I approach situations

and I act just like him, I would expect, in this day and age, Steve Kerr being who he is and how he handles his guys, that's what I would expect. You're going to sit him down. Just that one. I probably wouldn't let him on the bench

because on the bitch He gonna say some shit. Oh, he don't he gonna get a tech friend. That's what I was at my worst Yeah, you gonna be on the bench saying whatever he can possibly say like now you just gonna stay home I think they don't meet again until March 24th. Oh It's gonna linger it's a lot of implications still like it might be fighting for a playoff spot. It can be all kind of got no sense He worried that phrase fighting like think about it anything girl both of you go bird do on the court that look violent He gonna be true you foul step too hard Purpose and you file claim to it. Did you do that shit on purpose now?

Who do you ain't play now Rudy soon as they come in Rudy Rudy ain't trying to found nobody So scared because you know how shit like that happens We will see we will monitor the situation and have updates as they become available, but we're gonna stay in, California We're gonna come down to Southern California Lakers Grizzlies game. It's easy to turn for some reason. These dudes are ready to go at each other.

Bang, baby. At 500 on the line. Hey, at 500 on the line, Jack. Things also got heated in the Lakers-Grizzlies game as A.D. and Santi Aldama got into it as well. So after A.D. scored the bucket, watch the shoulder. Oh, shoulder a little too hard. A.D., okay, A.D. See, there we go. Desmond Bay came through with the baby arm.

Yep, yep. All right, Des, see? Boom, push out. There you go. See, teammates push out. Oh, god. NBA is fantastic. Boom.

Oh, see? Teammate helping? What's happening? Yeah. What's happening? Now here go another teammate. Back up all with me. OK, D-Lo.

Grab a teammate. Let's go. See, it can all be so simple Look at What Grab my teammate Grab my Now go below try to go off

Some notes are to pull them out What if he tried to choke him DLO? Yeah. Yes. This man is gonna choke below up. He grabbing his team They're like and who's who that's the problem. Won't you look up there? I already done seen it, bro. I was just talking to her about it. He grabbed his teammate. This is Clay. No. This is Clay. This person right here is Rudy Goldberg.

See, so you understand. This would be Rudy grabbing him off of him. This would be Draymond grabbing him. Well, who's that? Bismack Beyondiambo? Now you see the difference. But, hey, like I said, he grabbed his teammate. Instead of grabbing the opposing guy, he grabbed his teammate.

So Rudy is D'Angelo. If you're not going to ride with me, Lex, don't ride with me. Lex, if you're going to ride with me, ride with me. I can't. You got to. It's good over here. I'm telling you. It's paradise over here because we right.

We right over here. I'm just trying to show you. And you know it. And it's in your bones. I know you. I'm trying to show you the difference. No, I'm just saying. D'Angelo is actually Rudy in this case.

Yeah. Yeah. So if he decided to pull old dude, his teammate will be the one that grabs D'Angelo. I'm just saying, it could all be. It could if you just did what D'Angelo did. Push him off, grab my teammate, let's go.

So further question. All these fights happened during the in-season tournament. The ratings have already been up. Are they good or bad for the league? Good. Amazing. Because we're talking about it.

This is great. Amazing. So this is what, see I'm from the schools, I'm from the era of mushing people. That would be me. Right? Like I would have grabbed him by his face. Bane, when he walked up on me, I would have grabbed all the palms of his face. See don't touch me man.

Don't touch me man. Don't touch me. The problem with Bane and AD thoughido when you get that closer, dude You're almost running potential kissing each other. No, but look I'm sorry. You see the team is too close. He makes Teammates is going to be there now. I'm gonna hit somebody's gonna hit the Angelo Don't touch my teammate. You just elbow my teammate now. I gotta come see you here come Marcus smart Biz MacBiamo just taps a little bit. Don See, he going, don't touch my mans. Don't touch my mans.

Now Red is like, don't touch my mans. Marcus Smart and Cam Red is just cracking up. Okay, we got Adam Silver. What do we need him for? He was on Zoom. He's trying to pull up. No, I'm just kidding. Adam, how do you feel about this? Y'all niggas stripping. Somebody

going to Pelican Bay or at worst to Pelican Bay or, at worst, to Pelican. Yeah, now grab your teammate, dog. It's that simple, man. You can come in, dude. You can grab your teammate. That's all. It's easy. It's easy.

Grab your teammate. Protect each other. Yes. Protect each other. Grab your teammate. If you don't like him, don't grab him. He get punched or choked out. We know you got to take off any clothes before you go

Push someone in the face That's all that's what he'll have to do. So this is what I used to tell Blake right? I'll bet you gotta go fuck somebody up though Like yeah, yeah To do him Listen the way people used to fire him and shit like that, dude, listen, until you do, until you stand up for yourself, it's going to keep going. Right? It's the NBA, dawg. If one person do it,

the next person going to think it's cool, the next person going to think it's cool. That's how they be doing Rudy. And this is the way it go, unfortunately. Who? Rudy don't care a fuck about none of that shit. Clearly. Well, he should. Over there, it's like, man, you don't know how to control your emotions. He ain't over there.

You don't know how to control your emotions, man. He ain't over there. You're going to be a long life. You spent eight months over here. If he cool, I don't see him retaliating. I see him just being like, yeah, Dre, yeah, man. He's never going to retaliate. He's going to be like, Dre, mine got issues, man.

Everybody going to retaliate. We all know that. But we know- That's how he's going to talk it up. He's going to talk it up like, hey, Dre, I don't need to- We all know Dre, mine got issues. I don't need to redeem myself. Hey, man, this man-

You don't know what the other rest of the players are going to say. I'm going to say, you don all know Draymond is redeem myself You don't know what the other rest of the players is looking at he don't You have somebody like me said oh Fuck him. Yeah, I'm attacking the lane just cuz I think he's soft down there. It's Rudy. Good, baby It's Rudy goberto. So get that shit out of here What's the interest that I do that cheat you can say I'm soft. So get that shit out of here. Everyone seems perfect until you find that chink. You can say I'm soft, but get that shit out of here.

Were you on the team we played when I was with the Memphis? No, you wasn't on that team yet. Were you with us in the playoffs? No. Z-Bo gets fouled hard as hell. Boom. Turn around, getting ready to choke. He seen it was Matt Barnes. I was like whoo I thought you was that bitch ass blade was about to choke him. I ran. Yes

Yeah You ain't gonna you ain't gonna find me that hard like yeah do it Yeah, and that's that thing man when when when when us as sure enough Blake never hit that man Yeah at all when you show bitch of any sort skews my French in the locker room That's what people think you are Around the league when you show certain characteristics That fucking follows you Like you know what I'm saying?

Like, that follows you. Like, that follows you throughout. I don't care. Oh, you watch it? Like, I don't care. You're like, ooh, I told you. Oh, yeah. Oh, damn, damn, damn.

I thought you was my sister. I thought you was my sister. And Blake's standing right behind him, though. I know. So that's how we think about people. Hey, can you put it up there? Because, you know, people think he's... Blake's standing right behind him.

And for him to say that in an earshot that Blake can hear him tells you what he think. Yeah. Like I said on the couch, I tell people, listen, man, you better calm him down or I'm going to do it. See him right here. Like, on the free throw line. Not afraid.

No, if I'm... We're going to take care of you, man. Like, on the free throw line. Not afraid. No, if I'm, we're going to get, yeah, we're going to take care of you, man. Like, that's what it is, bro. Well, Kanye, we appreciate you pulling up and your perspective on the situation. We know you got things to do. Thank you for taking time out of your schedule to come on Gilderito. You're all done. Hey, this was excellent. I'm talking about.

Y'all enjoy it? Hey, look, I'm shaking this. Now we got to worry about their drink by by himself. See y'all tomorrow, man. Shit, now we got to see this by ourselves. I'm going to be in the building

for the 100th live episode tomorrow at 2.30, 11.30 Pacific. 100th episode. I can't believe this shit, man. Mackenzie's like, yeah, I got these motherfuckers by myself now. I can't stand you, man. We're in trouble, chat.

Chat, we're in trouble. It's going to happen on the show, and I'm just going to crack up, because you'll be fucking with me, too. Alright. Just in case. fucking with me, too. All right. Just in case. Just in case, guys. All right. Just getting money on the side to get the bitches.

You should have Gobert autographed that. All right. Well, let's keep this thing moving. So, John's currently on Chilling's Island while serving his 20th five-game suspension. But last night, posted a series of cryptic tweets with just emojis in the aftermath of the Draymond choking Gobert situation and AD getting into it with Aldama.

This was the first one. 7 to the 8 p.m. Pacific. Like, what? You know, about like 15, 20 after the Draymond kerfuffle, but right around the time of the AD. Then he posted, this bear, you know, some have said it's the right to bear arms. I don't know.

8 p.m. We don't know what the bear means. Not the grizzly bear, okay. And then I think I know what the hourglass means. Yeah. That was a crazy boy just now right to barrel Can you go back can we go back to the bear no no go back to the first one the smiley face

Okay The 758 but then two minutes later posted the next one which was the bear. Okay, that's Grizzlies bear That's the Grizzlies logo. Okay, but the Grizzlies bear. That's the Grizzlies logo Okay, but the Grizzlies were getting smacked. Okay in the midst of a smackin So he's smiling that the Grizzlies get smacked and his time is coming. Yeah, that's what I thought it was Yeah, this ain't got nothing to do with the Warriors. He's watching this This is the analysis that the NBA needs Gil Seemed pretty simple to me.

He said, y'all niggas is trash without me. My time is coming. Be patient. Be patient and try to win some games. But let's dig a little deeper. So, job suspended for 33, a total of 33 games, 8 games last season for the first gun flashing incident. 25 games this season for being hard-headed.

Flashing the weapon again. So, after hitting jaw with the 25 game suspension Adam Silver said the potential for other young people to emulate jobs conduct is particularly concerning so I got y'all on the couch I have to ask y'all what's worse holding a gun on social media in an open carry state or choking to do it out during a big that's the person who got choked out which one would he rather have on his phone looking at somebody pull is obviously the worst thing but jaw doing it a second time after they already told him to stop doing that shit,

that's what got him the 25 game. But again, he broke no loss. He didn't hurt anybody. Draymond broke his neck. Man, there's no victim. That's the obvious answer. If you, Ja, are you trying to get your sentence commuted now? No.

Based on how the Draymond situation pans out? Like, we should really get a nigga five games. I mean, I feel like he's had plenty of situations to try it. I'm sure he has. Well, Ja's shit came from momentum. He had a momentum of things that he was fucking up on. And that was just kind of like, ah, let's give this nigga a couple of games to see if. Yeah, you're right.

I mean, he didn't get suspended for guns. He got suspended because he didn't listen. He got suspended for his behavior. Yeah. And that's the difference. Like, in this case, 25 games, if I was him, I would say, no, can you please suspend me for guns? Right? I want that on my guns because that's three games.

Is it three games anymore, though, go or yes, they're gonna tweak No, no the most insane the most that there was was seven games And that was that was a gun that was fired in the crowd Yeah, other than that all gun related incidents. That was four guns was only three games. So This has been too big for them to give him a gun violation, so they decided to give him that resisting arrest type of claim, what police do. Detrimental to the team, which detrimental, fans don't understand, detrimental has no, there's no, there's nothing like, oh, detrimental, you can only give me three games.

Detrimental can go from one game to 82 games, depending on how they see fit, and that's the problem with that. That is actually the worst charge that you could ever get in the NBA. Because they can make up whatever. They can make up whatever they want. It's like other. Yeah, it's like other. It's like other.

The detriment is whatever I say it is. I just can make up whatever. They can make up whatever they want. It's like other. Yeah, it's like other. It's like other. The detriment is whatever I say it is. I just don't like you. Detriment to the team. You can get in an argument. You can say your back hurt. You're not playing. They could have hit James Harden with detrimental. Yeah.

So I guess the follow-up question is that we talked about Ja, his previous track record, and all the events that led up to his suspension. But in the last 13 months, Draymond's punched a teammate on camera, stomped out Sabonis, and now Chuck Dukes. He don't like the Euro. I mean, he trying to really hurtle this international takeover.

So, honestly, let that man play. He heard all the rumblings. He's our new Wesley Snipes, baby. This is for the World Cup. Like a 008 or something. What is you doing, man? Yeah, he was trying to assassinate niggas. Did he get suspended for punching Jordan Poole?

No, because it was in the preseason. Was it a game? Like one or two, right? Like two games? That was team. Ring night. Yeah, that's team. So he might get more than 10 kills.

No, they could. I mean, they could. They could, but... Because they're like, you've been doing this shit too long. But that's a charge. So whatever team fights player on the court fighting, that is a charge.

It's already set. It was easier for them to do the Jordan pull however long they wanted to versus something like this. I think they're going to use the same type of metric, though, we were just talking about, where the detriment from the refs and then the league officials trying to figure out how long to suspend Draymond is going to be based on how severe they think that choke was.

They're going to look at it like, why is he not letting up? Was this his intent here? The metric of it. But it's still a fight. So whatever fighting on the court, that's five, whatever. You're talking about the totality.

Is there like a... They're probably trying to give him the max to whatever fighting is. So, like, what would McDaniels and Clay, are they going to get suspended too? I think it's the same thing. The Draymond, Rudy, and both of them are the same exact thing, just a little... So, okay, when...

What was our last actual fights? Chris Paul and them, how many games did they get? Check. Five, ten games? It was only Brandon Ingram threw the punch. Okay, so did he get the most? And then Rondo threw the punch, too. That was the last time there was a real fight?

In a sense where there was two people getting my punch. Yeah. Damn has there been a Yeah, go bear fake punching a teammate. Not a big deal. Yeah, that's in house and Warriors didn't suspend dream off for the instance and just find them Brandon got four games Rondo got three games Paul got two games. So two three Rondo got three games. Trying to run up on Brian. Chris Paul got two games. So, two, three, four. So, Draymond will get ten. Ooh.

Mm. Most likely he'll get ten. That'll probably be the match. And will anyone else get suspended? Nobody? Mm. I feel like there should be some... You ripped someone's jerky.

Oh, yeah. Klay and McDaniels are both going to get one game. One game? You think? You think Klay will? For sure. I think they're going to go back to watch that video and be like, that was the wrong... That was the wrong... They give you a game. You think? You think Clay will? For sure. I think they're going to go back and watch that video and be like, that was the wrong,

that was the wrong. They give you a game, don't they give you a game if you're off the bench, if you step off the bench? Everybody that stepped off the bench gets a game. So just because they were

in the altercation, they'll get one. Okay, so, is this fair though? This is technically a game. When you kick this out of the game, that's not a suspension?

Facts, you missed the game. The whole game. So they do it like football where you missed a... It wouldn't be a penalty at that point. You could come for the second half of the next game? No. That's not a penalty. Because technically it would be two games.

Or unless I get paid for this game still. You definitely already got paid. Ejections don't always lead to suspensions, right? No. Unless you get like a bunch. No, not necessarily. Isn't it two-text ejection is the suspension? No, no.

Two-text ejection is just ejection for that game. How many ejections lead to a... I think it was something like two in a row or something like that. Flagrant 2 is a game, right? If I'm not mistaken. Yeah, Flagrant 2 is a game. Flagrant 2? You get Flagrant 2, don't you?

It's one game suspension after. Unless they, I don't know. Unless they review and overturn it, but that's what I, I don't know. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Interesting. Well, they only made the statement about Draymond's suspension, correct? Not the other players. Yeah, they're waiting.

They're going to watch the film. They're watching everything. Because they called Draymond's a Flagrant 2. Yeah. So everything else was just a technical foul. Technical fouls. Nah. Yeah, two texts.

The Drake, I mean, Clay and O-Boy got ejected. They both got booted. Damn. Early night. But those wasn't flagrant boots. Those was just... Fighting. Fighting, get out of here.

And then there's a 16 tech limit that you get suspended a game, too, so... Sheesh. And Rudy didn't get nothing. Rudy got nothing. So, obviously, everybody thought that he was- Well, we'll see what happens after they do the reviewing. They're going to see.

He tried to grab Rudy. They already watched it. That's why they ruled how they ruled. They had to go back and look. No, what I'm saying is that Lee is going to step in, and they're going to probably do the domino effect. They're going to do the domino effect, and it's going to be- because Golden State is complaining if Rudy never touched him,

then Draymond would. They'd give him a game. So they'd probably give him a game. They should. Just cause. Let's keep this thing moving. Because if you give him a game, you can give Draymond whatever you want. Facts. You know what I do. 1-1-1. 30! 30. Did you get it?

Shit. 30 on that. Let's keep this thing moving. Talk about some actual basketball action. That was. It was. You're right. You're right. That was action on the basketball court. There was plenty of anticipation for Wimby and Chet's first regular season meeting.

Didn't live up to the hype, but both players still had some good moments. Chet took round one as a thunder smacked the Spurs by 36 points. Chet was a plus 30 in the game three for ten from the field He had nine point seven rebounds two steals in a block in 30 minutes Wimby minus 31 in the game and four for 15 from the field nine points 14 rebounds two assists in two blocks Oh, we got it. Okay. Look at us, you know, we're showing their good moments because that's what we do here on gills arena. Oh Look like they almost got into it. It's the courts. I don't like that they don't guard each other.

Oh, no. I was surprised. Why would they not guard each other? This is when you... Because they're both rookies and stuff, you let them guard each other. Lemby was like guard like little guard at one point i was like what's going on yeah he was kind of like roaming a little bit they switching everything no they wasn't even switched i mean his man is not setting any ball screens he was like just roaming in the paint most of the game i was very surprised they didn't i don't think they guard each other like once that is like

y'all playing the same position guarding off Like I'd rather like if I'm Spurs you guard check let's check guard you y'all both rookies y'all both making the same But be honest with me Do the Spurs look like the same type of Spurs that had the system the the cohesiveness and the understanding of where to be how to Be sharing the ball running a certain offense. Do it look like that at all? No. Like, it bothers me, right?

Because the expectation of Pop having a legacy that he has based on that. Do you think that they're going to do that? So if that's gone, it's like, what are we doing if that's gone? And I don't even think that they're really even playing through Wimby the way they should be. I'm saying. And I don't know if that's because they're learning or they're just kind of like,

fuck that. Like we are, we've been hooping without him. Real shit, that's what I was thinking too. Because I'm like, y'all could really just throw the ball up to him every time. Yeah, I don't think they've adjusted to realize that that's the cheat code with them. We can just literally just go in the lane and just throw it. He's not going to adapt to them, because I even saw one possession,

when we beat them down the court, and usually your post player will set a step up, he's spaced out for a three, or that's how he got that backdoor to the Euro. He was, like, almost in a step, and he's like, oh, nah. I don't set step ups. So they got to get it together, or they're going to keep losing badly.

But your question about Pop He had Robinson Right post player so those plays went through the post Then you get Tim Right, so you've had this often so you're running your office based on these two and then you know you added stuff for Like if you think about Avery Johnson versus Tony Parker,

they were playing a different style. Avery didn't do what Tony Parker did, so they adjusted. Then you got Ginobili. You added some things in for Ginobili. Well, when you lose all three of them, and then now your whole team is guard play, you know, like they never had a Kawhi.

So they were trying to add stuff in for Kawhi, then he just bounces. So I don't think we're ever going to see the Spurs system again because he's probably trying to figure out what system actually fits Winby to then build a system around him. Even defensively, though. Like even the defensive yeah that's weird that now now that's the weird part that's what's weird to me because the same like how do you run in this that that heat culture thing is an example here

if it's a culture then that means no matter who's in it you're the same discipline it's the same style so where is the defense that the spurs had all these years pushing below the free throw line you push them baseline everyone moves over don't allow middle if you do get the middle everyone is on that net where the fuck is that, bro. It was like number three every year, too. Top five every year defense. I know when we play in the Spurs, I already have it mapped in. I got to attack from this side to not go this far over.

If I go this far over, god damn it, I just got to pass. You know what I mean? Because you've played against the defense so much, you know exactly where not to go or you're in this god damn blender that they have. Where is that?

Man, it's tripping me out. They got athletic players. Very random basketball. They got athletic players. It's very random. I know Pop is losing his mind. It's like people going middle, people doing this. It's like, what the fuck?

How? I shoot three. No help to helper, no boxes. I don't even be sending two linings on them. No, basically, it's like no help to help her no boxes like to not only But that's what I'm saying. It's like when people talk about cultures. What where are you getting it from right like I can that's why I challenge like the heat culture. Well Wouldn't it be considered a showtime? That that was a coach who was in at first, running up and down, trying to outscore a hundred

and something. Why he didn't bring that to New York? Because they had a different team. So then it became grinded out basketball. And then you leave there, go to Miami, you got a different team. So you're creating something different. So it ain't really no culture.

Your culture is what you are building, but you should have some structure. Yep. Absolutely. And what is your identity? Because your identity, no matter where you go, it should be there. If your identity is conditioning, discipline, hard work, going after it, playing until the end of the whistle. Okay, that is the foundation.

So that means no matter who comes in your system, right? That means a generational player or bottom feeding player. They should all have the same discipline. Well, you can say that about like, I'll say who left, Max Struess and Gabe Vincent. Obviously, they're great players, but they do not look like how they looked in Miami on their new teams at all. No. Like, not even close.

I even forgot we had Gabe. Yeah, he ain't been playing. He's been out, yeah. Even when you go back to the coaching, it's the style of coach, like you say, like Popovich style of coach that we've grown to know is similar to a Phil Jackson style of coach. You got your styles of coaches that you know what you're going to get, what they expect from you.

And there's no questioning it. As soon as you go into that team, you know they're going to run it like this. Do you think they need a younger coach? Who? Spurs? No, no. I'm just saying he's changed his...the last six, seven years for me, a lot has changed in their whole dynamic of how they teach the young players, support the young players,

try to develop them, have patience with them. It's a fast league now, so everybody's moving fast. So I don't blame the management for trying to find a piece that can get them back to where they are, but the way that they've treated the system is almost like they abandoned it because the times are changing. So it's like, Pop, he has to change with the time as well. And the question is, can he do it?

Has he been doing it? Does he look stressed? He looks stressed to me. I would hate for his coaching career. Obviously, he's so accomplished, and we're not going to forget that. But I would hate for this is how he finished his career, just stressed with the young kid.

He just can't adapt. I guess with the ruling of small ball and all that, it pretty much takes away. Because back then, there was no switching. So the structure of your defense was it But Miami's that adapted yeah Pat Riley's principle on defense. I mean Hard showing and you know like back then every day hard showed everybody's right. Yeah, I mean is like this It was the easy. I like we're gonna go brian grant's gonna jump all the way out here you do you do might be the only one to stretch out but other than that just do one five pick

and roll he goes but then we do hurry up one five pick and roll so like it's like a fake but this is what we used to do against that we're gonna fake pick and roll because he's gonna hard show we're gonna just gonna throw it you're gonna roll absolutely and that was the going to fake pick and roll because he's going to hard show we're just going to throw it you're going to roll absolutely and that was the quick just fake like we're coming up throw it slip and go right that was the easiest way to beat that but now it's switching but the principle of where they push players i don't see it in in spurs defense no me either so let's talk about just chet and wimby this season so so far this season wimby's averaging close to 19 points a game nine rebounds close to three assists 2.4 blocks steal, but nearly four turnovers per game, shooting 43% from the field, 28% from three. Chess putting up close to 16, eight rebounds,

close to three assists, 2.2 blocks of steal, shooting 53% from the field, 46% from three. So who is leading the rookie of the year race so far this season? Man, it's... Me, me, me. I'm going to go Wimby. Because he had that crazy game. He's a real rookie. I think that's...

The 38-34. Yeah, he's also a real rookie. You're punishing Redshirt rookie Chet Holmgren? Absolutely, man. Chet going to have to have one of the greatest games. Because right now, Wimby is just ahead because, yeah, he is a true rookie. He's not dying outside of the light that has shined upon him. He hasn't played up to the greatest potential, but we know that 38-10 was like,

all right, Wimby, we see you. When you get it going, we know what like that 38 and 10 was like, all right. All right when we see you when you get it going We know what you could do But I think that keeps him there until chip do something do you ding chat for playing with a much better roster? Or do you give him love for being able to put up those numbers on I don't I don't give him Listen, you you got to stand on your own like right now Right out. I'll have when being front You know the pre that I'm pretty sure polls are gonna have Like, right now, I'll have Wimby in front.

You know, I'm pretty sure Poles are going to have Chet because they're going to use his record. Right. Oh, he has a better record. I have a better team. NBA rookie ladder right now, Gil, has Wimby one, Chet two, Azar Thompson three, Jordan Hawkins four, Derek Lively. That sounds about right. Yeah.

I like that. But normally that's the thing we talk about. It's like, oh, the winning is the most important thing. Oh, no, we do not do that. No, I'm just saying the people. Not we. They. We do too.

They talk about. We do too. Oh, he's putting up a set. We do too, Gilbert. He's putting up a set for the deal. Gilbert, we do too. Winning is the most important thing. But not when you're trying to use team.

Not when you're trying to do individual stuff, man. Like, you got to have the viewers on the phone. Individual award is crazy when you say it out loud like that. It's an individual award. But does he make his team better?

Come on, Legs. Come on, Legs. When you say it out loud like that. Even that argument, does he make his team better? How does he look? How does he look? What? No.

Is he a winner? Like, motherfucker, he's playing with. How does his team look? His team is better. Does he make his team better? Who has a better team? Like, that's, you know what I mean? Like, we know who has a better chance making the playoffs, right?

So you can't use that this one has got them real superstars on his team got an all-star gonna have an all-nba player Helping him making better decisions for him. So his stats 57% but in versus someone who has to try to do it himself because everybody else is young Yeah, it makes it look it makes it kind of easier for jet. Yeah, because he doesn't have the pressure Alright, and then you got win be everybody's keying on him. Imagine a scouting report. That's what we need to see We want to see this guy. I mean shit was the last time okay Was the last time the Spurs or OKC had a primetime TV game? Oh, yeah. TV Russ versus Timmy.

Yeah, a while. Yeah, it's because of them two, but mostly Wimby, but Chet too. I think Chet had an anticipation. We've been waiting to see what he can do. I personally wish they both actually, like, rebound. Why don't they rebound? They should be averaging 15, 16. They're leaking out.

I hate that. Like right now. Y'all are so big. Go get the rebound. How do you feel when you're watching the game and shot goes up and Wimby's leaking out? Running. He goes for the rebound.

He goes. He goes for sure. I think he'll get the ball because that's probably how it was in France. That's not happening here. They looking right at... He is running down and kind of sealing in the post when he beats everyone. And they just...

Fuck that seal. Throw that motherfucker right at the rim. And they don't give it to him. They slightly teaching him because OKC is a hub for development. So they're teaching him basics. But if it wasn't for that, Bobo, Wimby, and Chet would be the same exact players. The players that do not want to play the big, they want to be two guards. All three of them.

They want to be on the perimeter. You catch them a fast break, they run to the 3.9. Why doesn't Bobo get on the court? Ask McCants. Damn. Ask McCants. I think McCants. Because he was in Orlando last year, right?

Uh-huh. When I was living there, we went to some Magic games, and he looked good. Mm-hmm. I mean, they sucked, but he was out there. I mean, the crowd, the fans loved him. He went to go watch him work out. Hey, I'm going to explain it. I'm going to explain it.

He went to go watch him work out. At first, it was like, you know, I'm a big fan. You know, I'm a big fan, right? So I'm anticipating the moment and everything, and then I understood immediately why the knock on him is what it is, because he plays out of position. Like I said, he's a two guard.

He do not know nothing about playing the five or being a big at all. So if you're playing traditional basketball, as we do, and you're running pick and roll, and he pops every time. Every time. Every time. Oh, I hate that. Fast break, he runs to the three-point line.

He never runs straight to the rim, post up, be big, you're 7'3". Get the ball, I'm throwing it to you. None of that, right? So for me, as an expectation that I'm having for a hooper like him, it's like, hey, let's pick and roll. Pin down real quick, catch me on the wing, me and you on the side. Boom, boom, roll. It's going to be easy.

This thing is popping to the corner, they switching. And I'm just like, oh, man, he do not want to be big. He do not want to be the big so I'm like I can't knock him for Not knowing how to play the position But I can knock him for the effort that it is if you're going to play the guard position You got to have more effort and that's where he gets to knock up being lazy Because he plays like a guard at that size. And you look lazy as fuck doing guard shit. Yeah. And that's going to be the knock on him.

Because he don't play hard as a big. We're expecting you to play the five and the four. And you don't play hard as that position. Because you want to play the guard. You think he's going to... He stayed on team. So how do people expect him to change? He's good.

Because he's good. He's really good. He's what we call... I'm going to say a jack-off player. That term. What does that mean? Who uses that term? Pause.

I've never heard that, so I need to... Did you say pause? No. I did not say pause. What does that mean? A jack-off player. Did you ask what does that mean? No, because no one's heard it.

You're curious? I don't know what that means. Basically, you're never going to finish. Right? You're never going to get to the proof of the marriage. Y'all want to know what the fuck is going on out here? So you're just going to be there all day, this player, not actually... Are you serious right now?

Why don't y'all call him like a blue ball player or something like that? He's a blue ball player. That's a whole different one. Meaning that this player is just going to keep getting you so excited, but you're never going to be happy. What the fuck is going on? You never heard that before? No.

Oh, yeah. You made that up? No. We were heard that before? No. Oh yeah. You made that up? No. We was talking about players. I remember I'm talking about a player in the coaching. A coach in the junior management is like, nah, he's a jack off player. What?

I'm thinking like, oh, he just jacks off. He just jacks around. That's what? I'm thinking he's just like- Oh, just joking. He's a joker. He don't play hard. Okay.

I'm thinking he just jacks around. That's what joker. He's a joker. He don't play hard. Okay, okay. I'm thinking he just, like, he just jacked around. That's what I thought. Realizing they're saying, basically, he has so much potential that you're going to keep spending on it, right? Ah, you're a stripper, right? Oh, brother. That's pretending that they're going home with you, so you keep spending your money, and then make up the excuse where you hit them later on. I'm not going to be listening. Ah, God, my kid.

Now you understand. You're going to listen. where you hit them later on. Now you understand. That resonated with you. That resonated with you. I bet you put it in work first. I got to pick my key. I got to go to school in the morning. She's not texting back. You made me spend all my money.

And that's what it is. They'll show you these glimpses. But when is enough enough? And that's the thing. When is enough enough before a team says, we're not going to get in there. Stop this. There's only one man who can serve him.

You can't by height. One. See, there you go. One. Two, he's got a skill set that's undeniable. I remember seeing him last season. The glimpses. The glimpses are incredible.

And that's why he would keep getting a job, because the glimpses of it is so unreal that you're like, come on. You think he finesses in the league right now? I think he wants someone to pay for his battery pack. Yeah. If you give him a check, that battery pack come in. So it's just going to take one team to just like shit. Nothing wrong with that.

Give him some bread. Give him some bread. Because he on the bench looking like a little kid. He's on Phoenix? It's the war that's going on between man and woman, right? Like when men are saying, I'm looking for a wife, and a wife material, and women are like, well, why would I be a wife to you if you're not a king? Well, at the end of the day, for you to be something, you have to practice it first.

For him to get paid, you have to do internal work first. You have to be great. Like your preparation have to be great, your work ethic, your approach, your game. For us to treat you like a professional, you have to be one first. So it's like above and beyond. Yeah, like you're waiting for someone to pay you for you to go hard. But he's still keeping a job, so why would he? That's his personality. And that's the thing, like-

This is the new culture, too. It ain't like that's a traditional way of how we came up. Yeah, work your ass off. Pay me, then I'm going to prove that I'm worth the money. It's like, look, I'm going to prove that I'm worth the money and pay me a little bit more than what I feel like. But he didn't take that approach. He's backwards now.

No, because he's getting paid exactly how he's performing. And he's probably content with how he's performing. Yeah. And he's probably content with it. I don't know. Is he content with it? Probably. I don't think he is because now that everyone's talking about it, especially Shaq bringing the light, saying what I've been saying, like, yo, we've seen this before.

This is nothing new. We've seen a big guy like this to do this shit at a phenomenal level, not getting the opportunity. But, you know, as I concluded to Gil, I can see why he, not getting the opportunity. But as I concluded to Gil that I can see why he's not getting the opportunity that he should be getting based on the fact that no one taught him how to play the big position. And if he did, I think he would play a lot more because then just being in the game was going to allow him to do the guard shit. That's what he needs to understand. Like, nigga, do what you need to do.

You're not stuck in that. You're not a prisoner to that position. Yeah. You just got to do something. Get some rebounds. If you go in there and get 17 rebounds and four blocks, bro, we're going to get you some shots. Like, you'd be surprised, just humans, that we expect it first and then get it when everything around us shows us that we have to work for it, right?

Everyone thinks that they have this self-evaluation, right? My self-worth. Your self-worth is worth fucking shit. You're at home in a mirror telling yourself what your value is, which is zero at the end of the day. Your value is dictated once you leave and ask someone else, right? You can sit there and evaluate yourself. Oh, I'm a this, I'm a that, I'm a 20 point score. Then you get out there in the world and sit your ass on the bench, right? You know what I mean? So you have to really sit there and say, all right, for me to get paid $20, they're paying me $3 right now.

For me to be worth $20, I have to act like the person who's getting $20. I have to show them. There's examples in place. I think that people don't realize before you get to the goal, you have to be the goal. Like, the finish line is there. The beginning of the race is here. So for me to get there, I got to run it, right? I'm not going to get rewarded until I get to the, so for me to start like a podcast, right?

I can't start it and expect a million fucking views when I do my first video. Zero views or one view. That's it. Nobody knows you. Fuck off. Right? Eventually, after time, we gravitate, we gravitate, we gravitate. By the time you look back three, four, five months later, you're going to be laughing like, oh, my first video got one view.

Like, you know what I mean? And I don't think people want to, athletes don't realize that. Fucking start it, work your ass off, and then you would get rewarded when it's time to be rewarded. Fuck that all. You know, they ain't give me my value.

Well, your fucking value wasn't it when you started this race. So you're going to be underpaid until it's time to renegotiate. Renegotiate is an important part of the game, Gil. It's like when you start a podcast. We always renegotiate. No, you do,

and I benefit from it. I'll be at the house mind of my business, and we'll be like, oh, we got some new shit going. Hey, go get them, Gil. Let me know if you need me. I'll be at the crib. I'm the king of fucking a contract cut. But like this show. Contract, contract, contract. Oh, yeah.

Contract up. I've been like three years, five years, and then the numbers started hitting. Hey, new deal. So you can just say that? No, I can't. No, no, no. I just do it.

New deal, new deal. They call me. Like, Gil said, okay, I'll support that. Well, gotcha. That makes sense to me as well. That's cool. It was like we started Gil's Arena. People weren't rocking with us.

They were hating, oh, whatever, whatever. Now everybody's jockeying. But we don't let it go to our heads. We come here every day, give you guys a show that you need love. Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Tell you who I talked to last night, though. Hello. Uh-oh. Am I talked to last night though. L.O. Am I?

Happy or not happy with it? Oh, he loves it. He loves the show, bro. He wanna come on the show, bro. He got some shit to say too. Like, okay, think about like, okay, so for viewers to understand, like being successful, look how we started the show, right, versus now.

Different. Way different. New couch. Like, the... New shoes, new shoes, I got new shoes. I get to go grocery shopping. I got hot dogs. I got hot dogs.

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I got hot dogs. I got hot dogs. I got hot dogs. I got hot dogs. right before our season started. And that was, what, six months ago, seven months ago? And I came back after the season. I was like, oh, shit, what's going on down here? But it's working. Like, if we were to, like, because there's no expectations, we have a vision, we have a goal. And as long as we're walking towards the goal,

as long as you're walking towards the goal, you're going to get there. It's a progression. I think everybody is so They're so into stats Right there in numbers and stuff like this. I can't tell you what our numbers are But I don't give a fuck like I go off of how we feel what the vision is Okay, we need to do that. We need that we need to bring this person in like I'm fucking three months Like I'm thinking about the shootout. I'm thinking about all-Star Weekend, what we're going to do for All-Star Weekend, our Vegas party. I don't give a fuck about what's going on next week, whose schedule it is, because I'm already somewhere else.

Yes. And that's where our lovely crew comes in, because they have to think about all that shit. Today. And we spend it. That's what they get paid for, to think about the shows today while I'm sitting here trying to create something for next month. Man. Cold vision. But that's how you have to

approach your career. Yep. Everything. You have to be prepared to, I'm going to get in. Like, Bobo, you should be practicing every fucking day,

three times a day. What else you doing? I'm going to get in. What else are you doing One day they're going to put me in and when they put me in, I'm going to do this. And then from there, I'm going to be, I'm going for 15, from 14, 14 to 12.

Then I'm going to be part of the sixth man. Now, you should already have this envisioned, which means you're not living in real time, which means you're not being affected of what's going on right now. So you sitting there day by day, game by game is not affecting you because you've already seen. You're already months in the head knowing that they're going to have to put you in at some point and when they do, it's going boom, boom, boom,

boom, boom. And then boom! This summer I'm signing a 10-year tip. You know what I mean? You should already have that in vision. It's just like what you said though, Lex. What the fuck else are you doing? What are you doing? Like, for me, like, knowing what I know now,

if I was playing as a 25-year-old, I would never leave the gym. No. I would, like, I would literally, like, I'd be in the gym 12, 14 hours.

Why do you work out so much? Why not? This is my job. This is my job. I'm going to be the coldest motherfucker you've ever seen. My job is to be in the best shape

at all times and perfect my craft. And that is all I have to do. Why would I not do it as often as I can? Apply this to your regular life as well. It's a fact. But, you know, the show would not be here without the folks at Underdog Fantasy. So if you have not done so already, download the app. Use promo code GIL.

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Me either. We asked the chat. I'm good for four out of five. I need to start just going back. You're three. Go to your three game. Everything is four, and I don't want to. You got to do two or three.

Yeah, always do five and I'm four, five, four, five, four, five. And you can't take my fantasy advice to take it with a grain of salt, but if you do more bread on the two or three,

I think in the long term it's better than doing less bread on the four to fives because you're just not going... Somebody's going to betray you every time. It's a $100 bet with insurance.

We don't bet. We just do pick. I mean, $100 pick them. $ hundred dollar bet with insurance. We don't bet we do I mean $100 pick them I'm gonna pick them with insurance still gets you my sick like 650 maybe $100 $100 pick I got a dollar pick them. I got that brahmo five five dollar But look I'm just saying when I get up that will you build the bank up right get to get to the hunt Risk it on the hun though. You gonna make a bank up, right, get to the hunt, risk it on the hunno, you're going to make a come up, bro. Because you're getting four out of fives. If you get the insurance on the five with that, it's $1,000, bro.

Oh, I do $5. Bomb, bomb. It's a bomb, bomb. And that's how people get in trouble. It's a bomb. I got 40 plays. That's how you win. I was killing last season on that.

That's my problem because I'll do the pregame. Somebody will betray me very early on. I know that one won't hit. Then I'll do the halftime. But the hustle is you got to go to blowout games like the Lakers-Grizzlies last night. I know the Grizzlies had no intention of completing that game at a high level, so I just went lowers on everybody. Except for Austin Reeves.

I know he was in a Bucky Gidding mood because he's a six-man now, and we got to go. Speaking of Austin Reeves, it's funny because I was at the game last night. Any move he does, the crowd loses their mind. Lemon Daddy. man now and we got it going. Speaking of Oscar Reeves, it's funny because I was at the game last night. Any move he does, the crowd loses their mind. Yeah. Lemon Daddy. It doesn't even have to be anything crazy. Yeah, it's white.

It was the funniest shit I've ever seen. I'm like, but that's like distracting for him, you think? Lemon Daddy. He don't be finishing the play sometimes. He feed into that shit. He literally did a jab the whole arena. I was like, what happened? He's saying to himself, I'm so cold.

I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. I'm so cold. He feed into that shit. He literally did a jab the whole arena. I was like, what happened? He's saying to himself, I'm so cold. I'm so cold. They cheering at my jab step. Everything. Everything he does.

The bar is so set this low for white folks in sports that they get a three. Oh, that's worse. Because he did do a nice move, and I was like, all right. But then it was the next move, and the move after that. Free throws. A three.

Inbound. He inbounded the ball. That nigga passed the ball. You see how he passed that ball? He passed that ball. They're like, well... A lot of Americans need to get their game up, so we got to cheer for them, okay?

That shit was funny, too. His name is Lemon Daddy. Lemon Daddy. So we asked the chat, who's your rookie of the year pick? 71% said Wimby. 29% said Chet. But let's talk a little bit about the other team in Los Angeles, these Clippers. Clippers looked like they were about to end their winless streak

in the hard and air against the defending champs who didn't have Jamal Murray, but somehow managed to still trick it off. Down three late in the fourth quarter, Paul George had a chance to tie the game. Oh, shit, they're moving. Oh, shit, they're moving. The movement, buddy, is wedgie time.

Damn. Damn. Look at Paul just stuck in the rim. That's like indicative of the clip. That was a horrible shot. That's what I'm saying. He was on fire at that point, bro. That's horrible, though.

It's not a good shot. That's not a good shot. That wasn't a good... I mean, that was... And you're fine. I like the movement. That was nice little screen cut action. Paul should have did more. I think he could have did more. Yeah. Paul should have did more.

I think he should have did more. They were down three, right? All that action was a decoy for him to do that. PG did have 35 at that point. Okay. That makes sense. He came over for 10 from three. I don't understand.

At that point, he finished fourth for 11. He started moving like 10 seconds. Like, if you drove while those guys are doing that action, the defense would have collapsed, and then, boom, you'd have had those guys, you know. Or he drove a corner drift, like, why I came out of that, and then went to the corner,

and he would have drove for the corner pass. That would have been dope. I don't like when the guys be passing in big moments. They want them to take the shot. Take the shot. You know that. That's the problem. It's hero. Everybody wants this hero plays. Why do you like that? Why do you like that? What?

Take the shot. No, I like making the right play. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Like LeBron. I like what LeBron does. That, I don't like. So, Clippers lost their sixth straight game. Bam. Fifth with Harden. Yes. But based on what we've seen so far in the Harden era.

The Harden era is. This is a fair question to ask. Will the Clippers win another game this season? Yes, they will. Wow. $3.79. They will. You own one.

You own one. That's sad, man. You own one, man. You want L.A. to be competitive. As much as everybody tries the Lakers-Clippers stuff and tries to hate on each other, you want the teams to be good so the city's jumping, everything is vibing.

Trash! Damn. I'll tell you what, though. That was you? That shit look a lot worse than people actually see it to be. The Clippers right now? What I'm seeing, I done seen the little shit.

The on-the-bench shit, who's cheering. cheering, the faces, the mannerisms and the timeouts. You know how it is when you're in a timeout and niggas is on their own shit. You can see, you watching everybody like, look at this nigga right here. He ain't even paying attention to the goddamn play. Watch him, he gonna fuck it up out there. And that's just the vibe I get with them and then Ty Lue saying This is the hardest team. I've ever had to coach that

Solidifies it that it's gonna be a tough season trying to figure out who's buying in who's not And I feel like pushing Russ out of the mix when this was his leadership role to be like that guy Not having him on the floor in the fourth quarters yeah like that is disrespectful i do not like that because it's like he's too important of a piece in the fourth like i get it if you don't want to take shots but for just to be on the floor to make plays russ needs to be on the floor clippers were up about seven with like six minutes to go they took russ out of like the 520 mark five-minute mark ish So Ty Lewis struggled to figure out how to utilize his Clippers big four

Last night he got blasted for rolling out a small ball lineup with Paul George's center Zubac on the bench to close out the game against Joker So how much of the blame does Ty Lou deserve for the Clippers struggles thus far? Okay, we I mean we're gonna start with blaming analytics, right? And then we're gonna blame coaches for being that dumb to listen to analytics. You know how stupid you gotta be to listen to analytics when the real analytics has shown that every team that was big won the championships.

Facts. There's no real small forward playing center and none of these championship wins. So I don't know what analytics they showing you, but if you go to the last team that's standing, they wasn't paying attention to the analytics. And they're big. So you sit here. If you know, as a coach, if you know that big man are having trouble with Jokic, the fuck you think is going to happen when you put a real guard on him? Oh, yeah, we're going to play offense against... His efficiency against you guys will be so high that your small ball

is not going to... Unless you hit every three that you're going to take by him trying to guard you will be worth it, but that's not the case. And you're sitting here trying to play defense on somebody who's going to have

a 70% to a 90 percent rate against your small team It's field goal percentages. It's efficiency small ball. What are you depending on? jumpshots Big man lineup what you're depending on layup Percentage just talk just talk basketball for a second. Let's just talk basketball for so let's just talk basketball for a second What's the percentages here? You know what I'm saying? I'm talking about 70%.

70% to 30%, maybe 25%, depending on what team's shooting or who I'm going up against in that lineup. Like, it don't make no sense, like you said. It's just, like, you got to be, to follow the analytics of it and not go with the tradition of the game and how we literally play this game from position to position. Center, power forward, small forward, shooting guard, point guard. They all have a position, a role to play.

And you take that shit and you mix it up and you want to make it your own shit. Now it's fucking up the game. But like you said, only the championship teams are winning the championships when they have bigs. So y'all missing the biggest metric of knowing that you're playing small ball, you're going to miss it. You think that they're trying to run Kawhi and PG out of

LA? I don't know. I think they're really just... Time's up. No extensions. Time's up. It's seeming that they brought James Harden in for his however many chances this is to have the team built around him. One thing I'll say is Harden in for his however many chances this is to have the team built around him. One thing I'll say is Harden free agent, too, at the end of this season.

So now you're in a particularly tough dilemma. But we've talked about this before. Clippers were rolling, had a great training camp, increased the intensity, rolled out that great squad to start the season. But, you know, that squad to start the season, PG Kawhi, look ready to go. Front office, who knows how much Ty Lue actually had to do with the actual green lighting of the trade or if they were more just Like we're getting James zero figure it out dog. Like you want to chip before like make it work I mean there's gonna be so much I mean

You have so much free money This summer I said the said the only valuable piece that if I'm the owner, the only person that is not tradable right now is Russell. But he also not making enough bread. No, what I'm saying is two-year, eight million.

But he has a player option next season, too, so he could say, fuck this shit, too, I'm out. But what I'm saying is I got two-year, eight million, so he's my cheapest superstar. Yep. Everybody else is 40, 50. I can let them go, keep Russell, right, for cheap, and go look for pieces. I really think this is it for this group with the Clippers. No, it isn't.

They're going to the arena. It might not even last to the fucking February. It might not even last. You got February. It might not even last. You got the Intuit Dome opening up, 1,100 toilets. You want people in there utilizing those latrines.

Like, if I'm him, like, I know, there's this little thing teams do is, I don't want to lose you for nothing. Yeah. Right?

I want to get back something. For what? Don't want to lose you for nothing. Yeah. Yeah, right. I want to get back something. Mm-hmm For what? For what? Like I'm gonna get you back and get back a whole bunch of piece that I did not gonna be part of my future For the most part So if we get into the end of the season, they all want to walk cool think about how much money I have That's what I'm saying. You think he was just stockpiling all these contracts so he could just go crazy next year? I was just thinking that.

I was just thinking that. He has so much money. He can get rid of Paul and Kawhi. And James. Here's the breakdown. Stick with James just to keep him as a superstar, but don't pay him as much. So here's the breakdown. So Kawhi and PG both have player options, $48.8 million.

They're contract extension eligible. Neither one of 48.8 million their contract extension eligible Neither one of them has has agreed to a contract extension Harden is off the books. He's a free agent 2024 Norm Powell's locked in through 2026 PJ Tucker has a player option next year for 11.5 mil He can he's gonna get his bread Zubac has one more year Terrence Mann has one more year Westbrook has a player option Amir coffee has one more year Kobe Brown thinks the rickety, he's locked in. Bones Highland has a qualifying offer in 2026, so he'll be around next year. But beyond that, so you talk about getting rid of PG Kawhi, that opens up close to 100 mil.

Wait, they have a player option? They're not free this summer. They can exercise their player option and holler back. Which they both will do. Those Clippers are going to be sucked again. How long have they been there? Five years? Four.

This is too long. Four or five? It's been a struggle. It's been long enough. It's been a struggle. It's been long enough. Is it? This is year five.

Year five. Year five. Wrap it up. That's wild to think about remember what happened up be those wrap it up be a yo those trades flexing that summer league you know like yeah what's up niggas what's going down now braun we coming for you yep like it's clipper gerald did he does he still got his tickets i know they i ain't seen him in a Going down now, Bron. We coming for you. Yep. Hey, is Clipper there all day? Does he still got his tickets? I know they... I ain't seen him in a minute.

I think he followed me. I don't think he's part of the Clippers organization anymore. Really? Didn't he get hemmed up by security at some point? He got a podcast on Dash Radio. Yeah, the Clippers. It went downhill when you lost your biggest fan. Yeah.

Facts. It's nasty over there, though though you ain't got no you ugly in the crowd no more it's different no distraction just maybe a win we'll turn it around but let's be there there's nothing that this team has showed you so far this season that not even like a glimpse of like all right they looked horrible they could go out here and get it that's why i was saying before i was like, how much time do you fucking need?

You all know how to play basketball. Y'all all play a specific position and you got a specific skill set. Go out there and play ball. What's the problem? All this adjustment,

chemistry shit, it's like, if you come in from another team and we got to readjust all our shit for you, you're the disruption. Because the one guy that don't want to change what we were doing because he's like man we just won whether it was

two and one or something no there was three three and one three and two three and two before james got there yeah three and two then it's like you know russ i know like russ is like thinking like we got some momentum going guys let's get this shit it wasn't playing nobody it don't matter it's still momentum it's still a momentum thing but it comes and you got to change everything for this guy. You got to, man, you ain't tell us we was going to do all this. So I'm going to read you all their next four games. Tell me. Lost.

I'm just kidding. Rockets at home Friday, in-season tournament. They should win that game. Should. But this Rockets squad. Hell nah. Rockets are playing great. The Rockets are playing great right now.

But then in San Antonio against the Spurs on Monday. Okay. At home Wednesday. Or no, two games in San Antonio against the Spurs on Monday and Wednesday. They might split that. Then back home the following Friday after Thanksgiving for another in-season tournament game against the Pelicans. Oh, that's a lot.

Can I ask this question? Two and two. Who's winning in this in-season tournament? Who's leading? Yeah, I'm just trying to figure that out. Like, what I'm saying is, so how does it go after this? Like, do you have to be undefeated? You have the group play. The groups. The quarterfinals,

so you play at the higher seeds, home court, then Final Four is in Vegas. It's the top team in each group that advances? Top team in each group is, I think think two extra wild card Chance to win now they said there are mathematically live. Yeah, they lost they lost three straight, right? No, I mean, I think that nugget. I'm not sure it's like you're a league and shit They lost the Mavericks lost to the Nuggets so there's no way that they can so they lost to yeah

It's just kind of like soccer group play, too. Yeah, yeah. You're a league. You have the groups, and then you just keep advancing if you're at the top of the group. Yeah. Now they're a spoiler alert. Now they're a spoiler team where they go out there and... They can actually, yeah.

But the problem is this is part of the record, so they can't take it off. This shouldn't have affected the... But it should, because it is another game, but we're just playing for more money. But think about it. It's like, oh, yeah, we ain't going... We came with it, so why the fuck do we care? Everybody sit down.

Like, no, that's still a regular game. It's still a game. That's what I'm saying. Exactly. So current group leaders in the East, Pacers in East A, Heat in East B are 2-0, and Pacers are 2-0. Celtics are 1-0 in East a heat in the East B or 2 and 0 and Pacer to and no Celtics are 1 and 0 in EC West Group a the Lakers are 2 and 0 and the Jazz are 2 and 0 Denver is 2 and 0 in their group and Minnesota's 2 and 0 in their group

interesting the jazz with the point difference that's hilarious I want like a bad team to win though I would love that like the though. I would love that. Like the Jazz. I would love them to win the whole thing. Really? Yeah, that would be fun. That's what's going to make it fun if a not great team ends up just winning. So they have a parade? Like March Madness type shit?

Actually, it would, but then it would be bad for the league because then it would show that the better teams don't really care. That's true. This horrible team wins care and then this team this small this this horrible team wins and then they go to rest of season losing kind of makes maybe not though because like you said you and Brandon I was saying a minute give them time give them 10 15 20 games little and if the end season tournament is 10 games in it's not necessarily that the best team is going to be the champions early on. So usually...

That has to do with your group. Yeah. But it's a confidence booster for any team like a Utah that's like, yo, we came in and we won the end-season tournament. Let's try to build on this. Let's try to get to the next level. But what I'm saying, it'd look bad if you win the end-season tournament and then you come in last place. We just probably... what would probably go happen? Cross that bridge when we get there.

You know what I'm saying? All right, giving away money time. Hey. This is your show. Oh, I was asking. You do what you want. I was just asking. You do what you do.

I'm merely here to host. I'm merely here to host. But I appreciate it. Josiah's I'm merely here to host. But I appreciate your... Josiah's gonna give us some money. Chuck Taylors every episode. It's a great transition right there. Chuck Taylors every episode. But what I am gonna give out is some money to these fans.

Let's get these Mostly Fans going down. Uh-oh. Oh, that's what you were saying. I thought you were talking about the other shit. The shit? Mostly Fans. Presented by Underdog Fantasy. Go ahead and download that. Where's the shit? They will match your first deposit up to $100.

So we're giving these fans 50 for a question, 100 for a video question. But our first question comes from Underdog username Kaz21. He says, do y'all think Draymond will pass Rasheed Wallace for most ejections? I don't know how many. How far then? Yeah. I don't think so because. Rasheed has 29 ejections, most all time.

Draymond is now second with 18 ejections after last night. Yeah, I don't think so. But he's been ejected in two of his last three games. No, the only reason I don't think so is because they were purposely ejecting Rasheed Wallace. Right? So, you know, when you're purposely doing something, you was just racking shit up. So it's not like he earned all of his, so technically, when you think about behavior, Draymond's behavior was worse than Rasheed Wallace's.

But because the refs back then were targeting Rasheed, they were just giving him texts and kicking him out because they had bets going on, which is a very different thing. Oh, I agree. Well, I feel if I'm Draymond, it's getting towards the end of my career. I may see that record in sight, really, make my imprint on history. Throw money away like that, Josiah? I need to, I done make good money for rings let

me go ahead get this injections record history books and do something with rashid at the crib presented by underdog fans he's got a hell of a resume though raymond he does that's why he acts that way he's got a hell of a fucking resume man god my nigga. Shit, you made it. Shit, you fucking made it, goddamn it. I fucking love it, man. Shit. So, next question comes from underdog username BigChub54. BigChub. Uh-huh. Crazy you had to say-

It's a video? Crazy you had to say all that out loud. I could have said big c hub you could have said a whole lot of other different shit don't let cam and mason sometimes this is a dirty job but they see our show they'll be like yo what they on man they don't say pause at all hey i'm gonna be honest cam and mason i heard doing some wild ass shit we talked about it With Joe Smith dog like so that's what I said She hit me in the D or her PR people hit me and said they why I want him on the show What they got going on?

It remains to be seen you don't know Damn, but then I was like this this has to be, like, planned. No, it is. I don't think Joe can go along with the shit like that, though. He is right now. I don't think he can go along. The world is a weird place.

We just seen him on the show together. I seen it. He going out sad. Let's just say, whatever she's been doing has been in her bio for two years now. Okay, right So, I mean if you're a man, I'm pretty sure that this ain't the first time you found out that you know Your wife is on all the fans cuz I mean we can see it in the bio right there Feels like a cash grab but let's talk about big chop 54 his question

Like I don't believe this is real until she just goes back to pop it on camera See you get your boy Going back to chubbs. I'm just saying yo, can you get your boy? Say that you can just say the question you ain't gotta repeat the name She wouldn't even strap she didn't even straddle him like a real- Alien? Yes, Baby Alien. What kind of nigga would let somebody call them Baby Alien?

But this is a lucky list. And she wouldn't straddle him like a real, a real streetwalker would. Streetwalker? Yeah. So just to reiterate, this question is from username BigChub54. Who's the dirtiest player you ever played with or against?

I feel like they asked us this already. The dirtiest player? You be calling. You be. Can't let us cook. I'm sorry. Sometimes you got to double up. Sometimes you got to double up or double back.

You got to double back or double up. I don't ask good questions sometimes. Yeah, y'all don't. Get it together, Chad. But in light of everything that's going on. Say, what's the dirtiest? Who's the dirtiest player you play with her again? I Thought Bruce Bowen was dirty. Hmm. He did some dirty shit

Shaq No, no case because nobody really okay, so you have to be a player to realize what he was doing, right? You know he wore a size 22, right, in his bulky shoe. So when you shot jump shots, what he would do is kind of like, I don't know if Bruce was doing it too, but he would challenge the shot, but he would put his foot right under. So you come down on 22s, that's a twisted ankle. So he used to do that a lot. So like when you shoot your jumper and he's pretending to contest, his big shoe is sitting

there and you... Do you feel deliberate or he just got a big ass foot? Nah. Who challenged? You can... Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a thing like, yo, come on, ref, watch his foot. That's the same with Bruce when you shot jumpers in the corner or on the wing that contest, and it's like, you too

close, bro. Why you so close? You too thirsty, man. You always end up- Twisting ankles. Twisting that ankle. Always got those ankles on them jumpers. I always thought that shit was dirty, and then just like-

I'm glad they turned that into a flagrant landing space that's necessary. That'll take a motherfucker out. Yeah, because it's so... Oh, I hate that. Like, it doesn't move out the way. Lexi, you still in the shit, so if you want to keep the answer to yourself to protect your career or...

No, E.T., still. Okay. Still, still, still. More antics than just being dirty. She just... So you... So more antics than... So you standing on business with this, right?

So you like... E.T.? You like, yeah, she really like that? She already did it. Anyway, she ain't gonna be around my... Antics. She be making me laugh. But she be right? So you like, yeah, she really like that? She already did it. She ain't going to be around much longer. Antics. She be making me laugh.

But she be laughing when she does it, too. So that's why I don't consider it dirty. But she's really the only player. So it's not dirty if they laugh, too, because they know they do it. Yeah, she knows what she's doing. Boom! Right. Your chief is out. Then she'll be like, but then she'll be like,

then on the way down, she'll like say something like, my bad, my bad. Girl. Really? Yeah, DT cool, but she's annoying sometimes. Her contract will be 2025, so you're going to have to.

Yeah, we got one more round. I'll see you on Gil's Arena. We got one more round. Remember what you said? I'm sure she's never going to retire. Hey, they will run up on us now. Hey, she dropped a 40 ball this season. Can you and Isaiah Stewart do a peaceful event,

like give out some turkeys or something? Bro, I had some work run up on me in the deal. About that? About mentioning some shit I said last season. We trying to give out turkeys to people you talk about. No, I'm talking about running up, like I'm like a motherfucker saying some shit because you saying some shit. It's like yeah, man The work gonna run up on like What you talking about?

Oh, it is becoming Thanksgiving. Hey people listen people I said I know y'all trying to do good things out there and give back to the homeless and stuff Please do not give out turkeys to the homeless. Yep, don't, because I tried it and they hate it. Like, where are they going to cook these fucking turkeys? They hate it. Right? Where are they going to cook these turkeys?

They're homeless. And I know what you're thinking. They can sell them. And then I'm going to say, who the fuck is buying a turkey from a homeless? I'm not buying a fucking turkey from a homeless person. So, therefore, they either give them money. Give them money. Give them money. Give them money, give them clothes.

Cook the shit. No, me and my mom. Or give them a hot plate. Me and my mom went around downtown Atlanta with plates. Made plates. And we came home with the same amount that we left with. They didn't want your plate? They didn't want them.

They wanted money. So, what y'all telling me is, throughout the years, we've been seeing all these turkey giveaways. It was nowhere to come. They want money. And these niggas have been putting on these facades with these videos in it and everything, and none of these people was eating these turkeys. No, what I'm saying is they think they're doing something good,

but when does the reality kick in? You're going to give it to them. Do they think they're really doing something good? And then you're gonna be like, yo, they're gonna sell it. Now you be the buyer. Are you buying a turkey from a homeless man or woman? They took all the waters. They took all the waters, all the drinks.

They took those. But the food, like, they had like just piles and piles of food. And they were just like money, blankets, something. Survival shit. Yeah. Even when you donate, think about what you're donating. You cannot donate things. That's what I'm saying.

Think about things. It's the concept. What's the word? Homeless. I'm not hungry, my nigga. I'm homeless. You got to come at me correct here. You see me?

I don't have a home. Okay? But look, I can go. You got to come at me correct here. You see me? I don't have a home, okay? But look, I can go get some food now. Now, I'm not hungry, bro. I need some bread so I can open up a bank account. You know what I'm saying? So I can try to be a citizen. Do whatever you need to do to get through. And then they be knocking that food out your hand.

Get this shit out of here. And don't bring a camera with you, one. Right. I hate when people do that. Yeah. But just be mindful of what of here. And don't bring a camera with you, one. Right. People do that. Yeah. But just be mindful of what these people need, because they do need things. I hear what they be like, yeah, don't spend this on liquor.

What if that's what they want? You going to tell me what to do? Then just take it back. What the fuck you think I was going to spend it all? God damn it. Just take it back. Like, I ain't got so so much demand when you get here. I'm gonna give you this money.

Don't buy no drugs or nothing. Nigga, my sign says, I'll do it for drugs. Yo, please. Like, I'm just saying, man, get your goddamn money until the people get the fuck on, man. Sometimes it comes with, like...

Like... It comes with instructions, like, these are gremlins and stuff. All right. I'm going to eat this honey. Buy food only. Take this shit back, man. Take this shit back.

I don't want it. Yeah, no. Don't bring home people things that they don't. Another lovely day on Gilder. I'm just saying. People just fucking. Just make it make sense. Not make sense, bro.

Hope you all are taking it. We got one last question. This is a video question. It comes from underdog user user Gil's defense attorney. Hey, how'd he fucking do? I just want to know. Out of all the teammates y'all have ever had, who's the one you would trust the most to take a last second shot,

and who's the one you would trust the least to take a last second shot? And you can't use yourself, Gil. Damn. Damn, he already knew. He already knew. He already knew. He know. What did he say? How he fucking knew?

That might be how I introduce myself for the remainder of this series. He is the defense attorney. He's supposed to have that type of energy. Damn. I'll go with Caron Butler. I'll go with Caron Butler. As a teammate you trust the most? As a teammate I trust the most.

Okay. Damn, just the most. Okay. Damn, trust Elise. Elise? That's crazy. Probably... A post player? Is it going to be a post player? Probably one of the bigs.

Yeah, I ain't going to throw nobody under the bus, but it's definitely a post. It's a post player? Probably one of the bigs. Yeah, I ain't gonna throw nobody under the bus, but it's definitely a post. It's a post player. But the person I would trust is my teammate from Duke. Her name is Rebecca Greenwell, my splash sister. She could shoot the shit out the ball, so I'm trusting her. Okay. I'm going with Al Jefferson. Okay. I'm going with Big Al.

That's a good one. Al's right hand. Get to that right, Al. It's all day long. You know what I. Get to that right, Al. All day long. You know what I'm saying? It was torn between Ticket, but then I remember that as good as Ticket was, he never really wanted that last shot like that. You know what I'm saying? He would take it, but he didn't really like it.

Yeah, wanting it is half the battle. Yeah, yeah. He would be like, you'll write it up, you know, draw it up for me, but it's like he looking to swing, swing, swing, get to make the right play type of shit, but Al You give me that bitch it ain't coming out It's up it's up Well, we appreciate all of y'all for those great questions and just as a reminder

Tomorrow 2 30 p.m. Eastern 11 30 a.m. Pacific. It's the hundredth episode Bill's arena our 100th live show. I'm getting drunk. I heard you earlier when I was on the way here. Yeah, you good. You said, uh... You good. You said, uh...

I'll bring the dog. I'll bring the puppy. Cannon, which one? I'm gonna bring him. Okay. So you ain't bringing no friends, no team? I don't have any friends, yeah.

You lying. Like a hoopoe. I'm sorry. Just me and Cannon. You got to sacrifice to get to where you want to be. See me Now y'all see our problems right we got all we can't trust none of you motherfuckers Tomorrow we gotta come work appropriate work attire? I don't know what work attire is. What does that mean? What does what mean? Work attire.

That means work. Bleeding off. I'm not in work attire right now. Not at all. What do you mean? For me. That's strip club attire. I know.

I'm not work attire. People don't realize that's strip club attire. This is strip club for sure. No drawers. No, no, no. It's just for all the young fellas. For all the young fellas out there.

Unlocking the code. Right, yeah. Oh, yeah. $10 worth of gold. Yo. Yeah, work a tire, man. You got to have the work ready for you. Hey, shout out to Toes and Me, man.

Be here tomorrow, though. Shout out to Toes and Me. We're going to be partying. We're going to have a lot of people here. We're going to have live audience. So people are going to ask questions. I'm trying to have at least 150-something people in here. Let's go.

Shout out to Toes and Me. Yo, I just got word from Underdog that we've officially been canceled. Too much work related. No, I'm just kidding. Be here tomorrow. We appreciate y'all. This is Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. We'll see y'all on Thursday! Outro Music