Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To The James Harden Trade 🎃

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

Gil's Arena Reacts To The James Harden Trade in a special HALLOWEEN Edition, where Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew break down Harden's trade to the Los Angeles Clippers and discuss what it means long term for the Philadelphia 76ers & Joel Embiid. They also break down how Harden will mesh with Kawhi Leonard, Paul George and Russell Westbrook as the move signals an all in push for the NBA Championship from the Clippers. Other NBA Topics include, Luka Doncic's sizzling start to the NBA season, Jordan Poole's on court antics and The Memphis Grizzlies struggling without Ja Morant,. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $500 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Shoes by Plein Sports Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:05:40 Gil's Arena Commitment Announcements 0:10:32 James Harden Trade 0:12:39 What Does Harden Bring To The Clippers? 0:30:49 Does Harden Deserve Critism  0:46:03 Did Harden Prove Anything With This Deal? 0:50:45 How Does This Shake Up The West? 0:59:33 Did The 76ers Get Enough For Harden? 1:03:54 Is Embiid Mean Enough? 1:09:45 Can Tyrese Maxey Be The #2 Option? 1:22:03 Does Daryl Morey Have a Future in Philly? 1:24:01 NBA Halloween Costumes 0:35:15 4 Assists To Save Your Life?Cam Thomas or MPJ 1:47:35 Most Feared Player in The NBA 1:49:07 Most Feared Player in NBA History 1:57:11 MostlyFans 2:01:34 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So With the disappointment of Miami Heat I'm going to Commit to a new team this season I'm taking my talents to the Boston Celtics. Welcome! Welcome! And, you know, Jimmy Butler and the emo shit, you know what I'm saying?

It's just a little bit much for me. So I'm going to double down on Jason Tatum and the boys and make it live, ready to go. You feel me? We on. Oh, so you're the same team you were last year? Yeah, so you're the same team you was last year before Miami started winning. Yeah. Yeah. So you're the same team you was last year before Miami started winning. Yeah. Yeah.

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Now, normally we do a bunch of BS to get the crowd hype, but they're here already, Gil. Okay. We're almost 10,000 strong. Damn. So we got to talk about the biggest news going on around the basketball world. The moment James Hart has been waiting for is finally here. After calling Darryl Moore a liar for messing with his money and saying he would never play another game for the Sixers, the beard got his wish and got traded to the Clippers.

So here's the breakdown. The Clippers get Harden, P.J. Tucker, and Philippe Petrasev. I don't even know who that nigga is, but I do right now. Petrasev. And the Sixers get Marcus Morris, Nick Batum, Robert Covington, unfortunately K.J. Martin, a protected 2026 first-round pick from the Thunder, a 2028 unprotected first-round pick, two second-round picks, and a pick swap. Damn.

So, K.J., we got you here on this couch. We had to, you know, send a bad signal out after the news got broke. When did you find out that K.JJ was in the Harden deal before everybody did yeah it was it was one of them call I I literally just dozed off and my phone rang it was his agent listen I heard something in his voice. I'm like, yo, what's up? Yeah, so just unfortunate. Short-lived time here, but on to better things, man.

So you got to understand the business part of it, which unfortunately he has to learn it right now. He was excited about being home and being in the situation he was in. But the best thing happened to him. Yeah, so no, he all right, he a hooper, so he going out there in a good situation, man. So no, as a family, I'm saying of course. Yeah.

That's a little disheartening as a family, but we are a basketball family, and we understand that it is a business. So, no, it's, on that regard, it's hit home, like, tough. But to be able to comfort him in his moment when he was, I'm saying, just like, why? But it's a good thing for him it's a good thing basketball-wise I think going into a situation where he can get more minutes than he was getting the first three games of the season um Nick Nurse has been I'm a fan of his since

draft um they really liked him in the draft so but no, so I'm excited for him. And how hard is it though, as a father, like you said, KJ back home, you got him close by, you're able to pull up, you know, the games and really be able to support him. How hard is it as a father to see your son traded? Oh, no, it's, it was, no, it's you, because I never dealt with it as a player for one. Besides it was about the money, but not three games into the season or nothing.

You know what I'm saying? No shit like this. No, it is... after to wake your wife up and tell her this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, after to break this news to the little ones, they excited when KJ come by. So it's that, that people don't understand. You know what I'm saying?

So it's hard to put into people don't understand I'm saying so it's Hard to put in the words without being emotional about it. Yeah, no, but now is that's a good thing, man that's really a good thing and I'm I'm excited for him, man. Yeah. Nah, man. You know, that's the thing. You know, we talk about these trades and things that go on the league,

but you don't think about the impact that it has on players, families, whatever it may be. So, you know, I know you appreciate the time that you got to be on the Clippers. Oh, yeah. Man, I'm excited for him, man. It's just a place to have to break that news to the little ones. There's a bright light for him, though. There's a bright light for KJ, you know what I'm saying? Just to ease the pressure off of him because it's the National Business Association, right?

I think the learning process for him is going to be that it is a business. And even though you're close with your family and you get to play in the city, it's an opportunity for him to learn how to maneuver business-wise, right? Because you could connect, like Drew Holiday connected in Milwaukee, goes to Boston, and it's like those heartstrings pull on you.

So, you know, for Kenyon and his son to be in L.A., close to each other, he could work out with him. He'll come home, come to the So, you know, Kenyon and his son, to be in LA, close to each other, he could work out with him. He'll come home, come to the crib, eat dinner, go to the movies and all that. Now that's like, the first thing I thought was, is Kenyon going to go to Philly to be closer to his son, to be, you know, to be that mentor type, at least be there, you know, every weekend or so, something like that. But, you know, I could sense that the bond between them is closer than than just how the business is done in the NBA so I think the KJ is gonna understand it because we had a conversation prior to I see him out all the time and he was worried you

know I'm saying he was he wanted to play here he wanted to play but I think now the opportunity for him then Philly is a better opportunity for him to shine rather than just, you know, get minutes on the Clippers and be close to his family. So I think it's a great opportunity for him. I think as parents, we're kind of, like, selfish, right? Absolutely. Right? You know, when our kids go, man, we want them to stay somewhere close where we can you know

Enjoy and watch and you know be be part of the the road So, you know, I know when he was in Houston you went to Houston, you know, so coming back here Y'all live in the same neighborhood, you know, you get your son back. Yeah, right, you know And and and now that he has to leave again, it's like, damn, I just got you. You've been born again. Yeah, I just got you. Yeah, no, man. Like, people know that.

See, you've been around me. You've seen me, man. Like you just said. For me, it's people that know me. Like, I love my family dearly. So, and like I said, have him right around the corner. Walk to his house. But, you know, I'm just going to keep reiterating, man,

in a good situation, to be wanted and to know that, well, fuck, I said to know that this trade wouldn't have went down without him. A hundred percent. Like, he was the key piece. He's important. I said to know that this trade went and went down without him. 100%. Like, he was the key piece. He's important. Like, if they didn't, then it wouldn't went down. So that's a good thing.

Yeah. I'm saying that's a good thing for him to know that. Go out there, bitch, and hoop. Yes, sir. Know what you're going to do. So, no, but yeah, I'm ecstatic. Like, I want to have him here. I want to be able to go to the game, have him, right?

But nah, man, we're a basketball family, man. Like I said before, man, so we excited for this, but what the fuck were the Clippers thinking? Say it again. That's what everybody want to fucking know, right? Say it again. That's what everybody want to know. What the fuck were the Clippers thinking?

I didn't like the shit shit didn't like it before I Read and said it then but hey How she's this shit finna work the same but how let's be honest Gotta talk about it Okay, yeah for guards or you know that It's a great

ending group if you're trying to force somebody to go small but to start up with this lineup I mean it's not a championship lineup

no because what ends up happening is Kawhi you have to guard Greek yep you have to guard Greek like that

you can't do that like the championship teams are big so this starting lineup of just four guards, period, with your big man Zubac going to get his ass whipped back then.

Yeah, absolutely. Because it's not like, I mean, you know, he's going to be damaged because everybody's just going to be, you guys are too small. Like, it's... It's him and Plumlee. But the thing that kills me...

I mean, they're not in the game at the same time. Of course, but I'm just saying it's like if Zubac did get in foul trouble, Plumlee is their only backup, and that's not... Shit. He ain he ain't championship back ain't fucking playing right he ain't even really playing like you're not gonna play right now so think about how they gonna play but then let me circus ball like don't know God in Washington's first three games right so I've been had the privilege to go in game watching up close and so you got them four that we know of then you got

norman powell and bones holland yep in my opinion each one of them going out there trying to be six man of the year 100 like they got that bitch like taking turns like my turn, my turn. My turn, my turn. My turn, my turn. Your turn, my turn. It's like, wow. So who you going to play them two with? You going to play them? Who coming off the bench? No, none of them coming.

All four starting? Yes. With Zubac? Yes. So who's going to be the four? Kawhi's the four? Kawhi's the four. Well, PG been the four. They've been playing to be the four? Kawhi's the four? Kawhi's the four. Well, PG's been the four.

They've been playing PG as the four. It really don't matter. It don't matter. Because defensively, Greek can guard one of you guys. But not one of you guys can guard him. You have to think about the East and when you're getting to that certain level. Winning games in regular season? Yeah, y'all win games in regular season.

But just so, if they do so happen to match up with Denver. Yeah. Denver can guard y'all, but they too big for you. Yes. Yes. And that's always,

that's just, it's this fake Golden State death lineup that everybody's used to not realizing. Draymond was the four and he had a five so he had a big squad when he went at the end of the game They went small hoping you were stupid enough to go small with them, which everyone did right y'all went small And they have a better small ball team. Yeah, you know same thing with LeBron when Kevin Love was the five

He was the four yeah, and that's not that small right you know same thing with LeBron when Kevin Love was the five and he was the four. Yeah, man That's not that small right, you know, so what ends up happening is teams are really going small not realizing Your small is too small and they're big. They're small is big still So so even with let's say Boston right. Mm-hmm. If they go Horford and port at the five Jason Tatum at the tube It beats that's a big lineup Yep, that's why they key. That's why Miami keep getting smacked In a sense y'all are small small. They are big small. So Kenya's credit though The question is what the fuck you supposed to do with this right? I think it's bigger than basketball

Yes, exactly where I'm this, right? I think it's bigger than basketball. Yes, exactly where I'm going, right? So you look at the Boston Celtics 08-09 team, you would think, shout out to Trev Trout, my reliable source on this. We had an extensive conversation about this, about it being more than just winning and losing when you got Steve Ballmer as your owner and you got money to spend, right? So you got Kawhi and PG coming up on their extensions, Russ on a one-year deal. Everybody's up, right? So it's like we make this run for a playoff push, and you look at the Celtics team.

If you say that team, you would think they won four, five, six championships. They won one. One. Right? You would be like, yo, they had a dynasty, but it wasn't. This is the same push in L.A. You're like, all right, the L dynasty, but it wasn't. This is the same push in LA. You're like, all right, the Lakers, A.D. LeBron James. And you got these four, right? But you had three. That wasn't enough. He pushed for another one. James Harden, you got four LA guys, Norman

Powell's an LA guy. Who else is a California guys? So you Right? We play the UCLA, so we impress them. So you got California guys now, right? And it's like they're adding up the pockets of all the donors and sponsors, and they're like, LA is going to be Clipper Nation for at least one year. Is this their last year in crypto? So moving to the Intuit Dome in Englewood next season. This is like a business decision. Yeah, business.

Rashad, to your point, you know, Kawhi and PG both eligible for contract extension next summer. West This is like a business decision. Yeah, business. Rashad, to your point, you know, Kawhi and PG both eligible for contract extension next summer. Westbrook has a player option. Harden becomes a free agent based on his training.

They have a lot of leverage. Because worst case scenario... Who has a lot of leverage? Clippers. Okay. Clippers have a lot of leverage. I mean, you have so much money that you can throw out there

like James Harden and Westbrook and then you get rid of PG and Kawhi and don't sign them back, make trades. You have four guys that's up around the same time. Your cheapest asset is Russell. So Russell is always gonna be signed because he's the cheapest out of the four. From there, all you're doing is just gonna manipulate, see what the market has for you. And then if somebody's looking for Kawhi or PG, I can really bring in some assets. So then you wouldn't get rid of T-Man. So where does Terrence Mann fit in all this?

That's what I was trying to figure out. Why they didn't want to get rid of him? And that's what they were saying Hold Up was all the time. He doing with Trayton, I want to trade with T-Man. I like T-Man, but what does he fit in in all this? Nobody. So if we assessed his talent, we'd be like but what does he fit in in all this? I don't. Nobody.

So if we assessed his talent, we'd be like, what is he? Because the same assets can be given back. I mean, this is your whole, these three, that's your whole salary cap. So who's coming up? Oh, they way over. Next year? Way over. Who's up next year in a year after that Whoever it is. You can throw big money at

Overpay talking about the free agency market Well, you don't have to bring that's what you don't have to bring Kawhi and PG back in. Oh, no They don't look like this is do or die. Yes. Yeah, T. Lou didn't get an extension It's so is this season championship or bust for the Clippers? That's what it seems like. It's a deep, deep Western Conference playoff series. Six, seven games. Games close.

And or finals appearance. And they still get taken away. Well, let's talk about it. The price just went up for all the seats at the Clipper Games. Price just tripled. We'll see. Price just tripled. Steve Ballmer is trying to double down on his investment, his return.

If I'm going to go get James Harden, what we want in return? We want people to show up to our games like it's the Laker games. James Harden in town. Where y'all at? We going to the Clipper Games. If you couldn't do that with the other three, something wrong with you. James Harden in town. Where y'all at? We going to the Clipper game. And if you couldn't do that with the other three, something wrong with you.

James Harden. It's James Harden. What I'm saying is if you could do that with the other three, Jesus Christ, you got problems anyway. You got two defensive players

and then a triple-double guy, right, who just came from the Lakers who had a real bad season. You're not selling no tickets from that. Then that's a problem. And two players who are always hurt.

And they always hurt. You got a guy who's a two-time champion, two-time finals MVP, and you can't sell tickets? Nope. He's a fun guy. He's the fun guy. That's always been the Clippers' issue, even through the Lob City era and all that.

Yes. Even when they were, quote-unquote, the best team in L.A., them tickets were literally like 20% of what the Lakers tickets were. And you couldn't sell out the arena anyway, huh? Nope. Maybe for the Lakers-Clippers game. Like, it'll sell out Wednesday. Because of the Lakers, though.

But it's, you know, when you go, you hear what it is. It's a lot of fuck your couch in there from Lakers. But if they do turn up, though, if they turn up for a good 20 games, it'll turn L.A. upside down. Not to turn it upside down, but the long run is not for those guys going to be here in the next two years. 100%.

But let's talk about that big four squad now, right? You got Kawhi from the IE, PG from Palmdale, Russ and Harden from L.A. In theory, this should be L.A. squad. We should be rallying behind them, but it's the Clippers. Do we think that'll change it all for this season

What other team over the other side not they good so I'm saying what if the Lakers are continuing to be they're not they good You like this nothing with this is going the Clippers. It might start I mean, you can get blue face and you know, you know guys like that, you know I'm just saying Rules is like two thousand three thousand not twenty thousand really so20,000. Really? So you might get a little more. So you might get a little more for them checks. I mean, after today, I'm sure they're going to grow up. Their price is going up, for sure. Because I got a suite.

The suite was on like $2,300. 12 people. Damn. Food included. Food included. If you're in L.A., who's in town? Oh, yeah, I can go see Wimby. Wimby tickets for a suite was like $50 a pop.

What? For Victor Wimby and Yama sweep was like $50 a pop. What? For Victor Wimby-Yama. Wow. For the Clippers. For the Clippers. Well, it was down 33 at one point, so shit. I'm saying coming into the game. At least the hype and hysteria.

You know what I'm saying? It was down to fucking King's Ransom, so shit. No wonder. So, Gil, let's get into it, though. Hey, how did the 80s play in these? These shit was fogging up and I ain't even out there playing. Shit. God.

Damn, Kareem, how you playing these man shit foggy? Time out, baby. Time out. I ain't even out there running up and down. He had his own personal doodle to wipe that shit off, man. Come on, man. Yo, you look a mess. That's what they look like. I'm wondering how do they wear these shorts without this like tights How they wear them without

Granddaddy. Granddaddy. She put some underwear on granddaddy. Yeah. Come on, Lou. Come on, Lou. I'm not supposed to eat my jello after I didn't see what I just saw. Come on, man. Cover that shit up, man.

But let's get into this deal and talk about it a little bit. Gil, we'll start with you. What does Harden bring to the Clippers? We had talked about this before. It might look good on paper, but now it's reality. So what does Harden bring to the Clippers? I mean, you bring, obviously, offense. You bring a guy who's another threat offensively.

A guy who can, you know, really heat up, you know, heat up with the best of them. His offensive talent, you can't question it when he's putting the ball in the basket. Is he going to play defense? Is he going to commit to winning and commit to the team? That's the real question. I'm looking at it like, is he the same James Harden we're talking about right now? The heat up, give us 25, 27, or are we expecting the one we seen last year where he was 21 and 10, but those 10 was going to Embiid?

Those are guaranteed 10, right? That's a pick and pop, pick and roll. So if he's not pick and pop and and roll so if he not picking pop and pick and roll with anybody he got four other guards out there it's like well what are we doing it's who got the ball who got space who got room who gonna do what it's just sticky it's sticky it's sticky as fuck and i don't i don't like it because it's like someone out there gonna be mad and i think it's gonna be russ i think it's gonna be Russ. Russ is going to be the guy that's going to get agitated because it's just too many guys going to want the ball. Who are you going to give it to? Whose team is it now? That's

the question. Is it Kawhi's team? Well, whose team is it before James Harden got there? None. I still don't know. Yeah. I thought it was Kawhi because remember, P.D. gave the keys to Kawhi, like this is his team. Remember we had that conversation. Yeah, that was before Russell got there. I still don't know. I thought it was Kawhi because remember, he gave the keys to Kawhi. Like, this is his team. Remember, we had that conversation. Yeah, that was before Russell got there.

But I feel like that's why no one can really root for the Clippers because they don't have an identity. Like, they're just the Clippers. We'll go ahead into the season. You said you talked to Ty Lue, and he said that Russ was the leader of this team, and it's the first time they had a leader there. Now you bring in another alpha,

and James Harden has history with Russell. There's only one alpha in the room. That's Russ? No, just period. There's only one alpha in the room. There's not two CEOs. There's not two. It's one, right?

So you bring that other person in. Yeah, one's coming in and you have to abide by the rules. So most likely it's Russell. Russell's the one that's going to sacrifice. It's not like he really understands like, all right, the only way this all works is if it's me. The problem is if James needs to understand, you can't play point guard while he's playing point guard. we don't need two guys trying to average ten assists. Yeah, right, you know So it's it's it's really are you gonna be a catch-and-shoot guy? Like your office has to be quick now. It's like it's like playing on the USA team, right?

Quick or get off of it man. You score get off of it We're not gonna be sitting here playing with the ball like it's not gonna There's gonna be an adjustment for everybody but all of them right um sheer talent just sheer talent like you're gonna win games right but sheer talent is not gonna help you move in that playoff does it turn them all into slashers no no no not if they're not used to it yeah they're not so russ so russ averaging six and a half six point seven assists. Yeah, the team averaging 25 assists right now. That's gonna go down. Mmm Think so. Oh, yeah, but that's the problem. I think I think it forces them to play more together

How cuz they all have to if it go if it goes only one ball absolutely It's it's when have they True, huh? The only person before as of late, James passed the ball last year. He's led the system, but that shit is... He doesn't have any. But you know how the game, he's manipulated the game for that. Yeah, he can do that. Russ, in my opinion, is a willing passer.

Mm-hmm. Russ, in my opinion, is a willing passer. But then you got... When it comes, like, I'm going to the mound. It's my turn. No, but that's what I'm saying. So then there's no... It's not going to be the ball. It ain't going to be moving, man. So that's the cyst going down.

Ty Lue going to allow that type of style. No, I'm just saying, no, it's not even about Ty Lue allowing it. As James, you can't do that anymore. Right. Right, that's the part of the game you can't do. Your game is going to have to be simplified. Like, how you played

before you got comfortable with the ball, just one, two dribbles, pull-up shot. Like, you have to play like Kawhi plays. plays one two pull up shots you're getting more shots and nobody's sitting there like hey yeah is he an efficient enough basketball player to do that from the field it's a fucking great question that's something we got to find well mellow right mellow proved everybody wrong how he played in Denver How he played in New York Is not how he played in the Olympics

True When he got to the Olympics It was one-two pull-up Overshot pull-up You know he didn't get into his bag That's him though I know but that's But that's his bag

But But not when he was But that's his bag though Like he didn't You know how he Melo is a boom shoot One-two That's his bag

He not a four-five- six, seven dribbler. But he was in Denver and New York, he was a ball stopper. He was a ball stopper. Because he was the number one scorer. But that should tell you how smart he is as a basketball player to know, I can still get to my boom boom, but it just can't be every possession. Or when he's playing with other players around him. And he realized that he couldn't do be every possession. Yeah. Or when he's playing with better players, he's playing with other players around him. And he realized that he couldn't do it every possession.

Right. Right? Mm-hmm. But he's still who's the leading scorer and all that shit before he got that right. So let's not... That's what I'm saying, he came more efficient, shot faster. Yeah. But we talking about in a 48-minute basketball game, like an NBA basketball game, where you historically, that's every,

it's four, five, six to get to you. Yeah, we're going to say. What do you think as far as how many shots each of them are going to get? Yeah, I was thinking that. Are they going to have to start scoring quicker, like earlier in the shot clock, just for everyone else, everyone have enough attempts

Because the way James Harden does play he's like a rhythm player He needs the ball all the time, so he's not gonna be able to he's not like Kawhi PG They might take two three possessions. Maybe not touch the ball, but once they get it They're gonna get their shot quick cuz they know they haven't gotten it for a while I don't think James Harden is gonna be able to do that only one that play with pace on that team is fucking Russ Yeah, PG somewhat I don't think James Harden is gonna be able to do that. Only one that play with pace on that team is fucking Russ. Yeah PG somewhat But the ones who gonna play that play with pace like that is Russ bones getting that's a different story, but with that group

Consistent pace, you know quiet playing at his pace PG plan his face James will play his But what's the key to what is so who so whose face is it gonna be? his pace, DG playing his pace, James will play his. But what's the key there? So whose pace is it gonna be? So whose pace is it gonna play at? Russ is familiar with which two players?

Harden. And? PG. He understands what their pace is. Kawhi is the one that doesn't understand James and Paul's pace yet, I still feel. Because they haven't played together enough, right? So you're looking at the shot attempts and you say, well, how many shots are each of them

going to really put up for the team to be effective, efficient, and win? That's really the question. Like, you made this move, and you ain't, if you didn't process, like, how are we going to get these guys the ball where we can win and be effective and efficient don't get your ass kicked on you're gonna get your ass kicked on the

glass consistently no no that's i mean defensively they i mean that's gonna they're gonna have to figure it out offensively if i'm james and i'm coming in that situation with my skill set i'm gonna manipulate the foul and the penalties. So when my most aggressive, my most selfishness is going to be once we get into the penalty. So if I get open shots during the quarter, then I'm going to take my open shots. But I'm just waiting for us to get into that penalty, and then from there it's animal mode. Because I can still get my points, right? Get fouled. Doesn't count against my shot attempts, right?

Shot clock stops. I get two points, right? So I'm putting more points while the time has stopped. And when you look at the stat sheet, I got 20 on 10 shots, right? You know what I mean? So that's what I did with Larry Hughes and Antoine and then Karan with Antoine. Right? You know, once they got into penalty, that's when I became, you know,

attacking the basket the whole time. So that's what he's going to have to do. Because he knows how to get fouled, that's the time you use it. What was your adjustment in Orlando, though, when you was used to, even though you knew you wasn't the same player? My adjustment? My adjustment? In my seat. Hey, where that cushion at?

Hey, that's a tall one. This is my judgment right here. Mentality-wise, mentality-wise. I said it five or seven. I was sitting close to the coach. Can you see me now? Him both there. I'm here.

I'm right here. So, on any possession doing this experiment, doing any possession, two of them guys are going to be over there motherfucking twiddling their thumbs. Yes. At any given time. Yes. Like, two of you are going to be over there motherfucking like... No, listen.

Get off that bitch. It's going to be like that. Listen, it's going to be... Get off that bitch. It's going to be like that. Listen, it's going to be a less experienced Lakers back in 04, right? Where everybody coming into like, yeah, this us. There's going to be someone hot. Then it was GP. Right, it was GP mad in the motherfucker the whole time.

Because he wasn't playing how he was playing before. Because I think the year before that he averaged 20 over in Milwaukee and came down there and average 4.5. So, I mean, someone's going to be upset, but I think Russ is the one because if he's already averaging, he's only averaging 6. He's already adapted. It seems like he's already adapting to what was coming. He's not getting paid like that either,

so I think that the adaption is really easy for him. He's the only one with a safe job. Real talk. He's the only one with a safe job right now. And tradable. For sure. You talk about Russ.

Damn. I ain't even, he's the only tradable piece. Who's that? Russ. But you talk about Russ having to make the biggest sacrifice, he's already sacrificed a lot. 11-6-7. Do you think that sacrifice goes as far as him now having to make the biggest sacrifice. He's already sacrificed 11, 6, and 7. Do you think that sacrifice goes as far as him now having to come off the bench? And is that even effective?

Not really letting him cook with Kawhi and PG? I thought that too. I just, I mean, you're looking at this squad, like who's getting off that ball? And if you're paying Harden 36 mil and you got Russ at four, or do you now make a decision where you bring Harden off the bench? Let me tell you this shit right now. He averaged more rebounds than all of them. So guess what?

Good luck. Good luck. Good luck getting the bitch out of his hand when he's going to get it off the glass. When he can take the... Okay. If you want, fuck with me if you want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I can show you better than I can tell you. I come out this bitch and I average 12 rebounds a game, and then what? And that's 12 possessions. I know I'm going to motherfucking have the ball in my hand, so deal with it. He's the only guy on the crew I really think doesn't care about scoring at this point. No, that's what I'm saying. He's the one that's going to go back to being an original point guard because he's capable of it, right? You got a really explosive guy who wants to pass, who's willing to pass.

And James Harden has to be a shooting guard. Really? A shooting guard. Be a shooting guard. I don't need you to be a point. I don't need you to do... Don't do what you did. Be like Klay Thompson.

Just come out there, fire that bitch anytime. That's the guy I came... I don't need you to try it be like Klay Thompson just come out there fire that bitch anytime like that's the guy I came I got I don't need you to try to be So then what is what is PG if that's gonna be there's the three this is how they were playing No, I mean also be the clay Thompson before it but not before Before they got before this trade PG's at the four wise at the three and they had a shooting guard They're switching because there's mail supposed to start he got hurt. They'll start Robert Covington. Robert Covington at the four, Kawhi's at the three, and they had a shooting guard. They're switching. Because Terrence Mayne was supposed to start.

He got hurt. They would start Robert Covington. Robert Covington at the three. I mean, at the two. I'm looking at if they try to see P3 shit with Russ, bring him off the bench. Why when they didn't do it before? Because they got James. But that's what I'm saying.

He's just subbing in as the actual two guard now. He's just playing the actual two guard now. But do you think Harden wants to do it? That's what I'm saying. James needs the ball in his hands. James needs the ball in his hands. It don't matter what he needs I'm gonna fuck what he needs is what makes the team better who yeah who's faster who's bringing the ball up like yeah I didn't know like things like this y'all motherfucker call me because you can put Kevin Durant in that situation cuz he's efficient

Mm-hmm You can put certain guys in those situations cuz they efficient efficient. They're going to make the best of them 13, 14 shots, whatever it is that night, whatever the number is, they're going to make the best of them. Can James do that? That's what I'm asking. That's to be seen.

If he wants to win, then it's him adapting. The only way he adapts is you become a shooter right coming off screens do something that we haven't seen but if you're smart enough basketball player you can adjust and then from there it's you know wait till you get in the penalty and manipulate them them fouls them last three minutes how the fuck the nba let this shit go down what the fuck is going on let's talk about it a little bit what the fuck did the NBA let this shit go down? What the fuck is going on? Let's talk about it a little bit.

What the fuck is going on? The NBA has attempted to combat player empowerment. They weren't happy with Dame saying he wanted to go to the Heat. He ended up in Milwaukee. Fine Harden this summer for calling Maury a liar and saying he wasn't going to play another game with the Sixers. So I think that teetered on, violating the rules on public trade demands.

But let's look at Harden on the business side. Does Harden deserve criticism for treating the NBA like a business? Wait. Because the NBA treats the NBA like a business. That's my point. It is a business, right? So when a player does it, if they would have just traded Harden four times, nobody would have said shit.

But Harden's now got this stigma and reputation behind him now that whatever it may be, because he went from the Rockets to the Nets, Nets to the Sixers, now Sixers. I mean, it keeps working. Yeah. So why would he stop doing this? He's gotten his way every single time, pretty much.

But Gil prophesied this shit, though, because he's like, all right, if James showing up and they telling him to go home. Yeah, they look crazy. The thing that happened was the league and the teams around the league started asking, why is James not playing? He's not hurt. We don't give a fuck about his riff with the management. He needs to be playing.

You tell him we can't rest players. That's what y'all doing. Y'all resting a player. He not hurt. Ain't no reason for him not to be playing. That motherfucking deal got done in 48 hours after that. 48 hours. They got off the ball. They said get this nigga up out of here. We don't give a fuck.

Give us what y'all got. Now we know what they were laughing about. That's why he was so damn mad. PJ Tucker, right? Go watch that video, man. PJ Tucker. I know PJ Tucker gotta be the happiest man on earth. They was laughing. They said, we finna be in LA.

That man been finagling his way to all the good teams. With James. Fuck. Only team he with you without James is Milwaukee. And Miami too. I'll come back and get you, bro. I'll come back. I'm a circle man.

He in Miami, come get me, man. Come get me, man. But it's, I mean, a couple weeks ago you don't need wolves just ask PJ PJ got you I mean a couple weeks ago we were talking about you know are the teams in the league going strong on Harden and would he be out the league

and now he literally got exactly what he wanted so should stars look at Harden hard and she starts looking hard as an example of how to Work your way out of situations Hey, no, you can look at him as an example until you become an example You can be a shit if your resume don't work what he is do Don't even try don't even fucking think about it. We see all the time motherfuckers hold out on money and 98 million went out the window, your ass got $4. We see it all the time.

You be out here like Kai Jones, doing fucking dances on TikTok and shit. Boy tripping. He ain't get picked up yet? Nope. Twerk man at home. I like some boy. Twerk man, twerk man.

Twerk man, twerk man. But those are the type of players, like you need some bodies. You're athletic. Yeah, I like me a twerk man twerk man work man But those are the type of play like you need some bodies like, you know, he's athletic run up and down. Yeah Yeah, I like I like but he you're mad. He died his hair. He's a risk. You know, I'm saying this is what? I'm talk shit on the ground like That's that's that's the shit out that irritates me His Instagram don't have nothing to do with his reality. How you know I mean he Mandated you don't know if they could ask his man about that shit and he stood on it He stood on whatever he was

Taking a temperature like is this boy? Okay. I went and looked at my highlights now Hey, hey that we're filling himself for a You know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, hey. Hey, that boy feeling himself for a reason. No, but what I'm saying is. Like they're dunking everything, blocking shit. If you go down and ask 450-some players who's the best player in the NBA, they're going to say themselves. I mean, besides the Caucasians.

They know damn well. But everybody else is going to say say they the best players in the world I mean, what's the difference between him and Dylan Brooks? Real shit. What's the difference besides sweaty video down his hair? Delusion is delusion Until it becomes your reality, right? I mean, you know, it's it's what's what's penalizing him because all right He's making fun of his players just making fun of him. Well, that's what the one can take any of this serious They handle players so different. It's so inconsistent

Yeah, like they have these players in these situations on Instagram. You have the domestic cases being handled one way You have the kid dying his hair on Instagram live Now he's at home. He's at home. He's the one that's home. It's weird. And he never did anything. Just dyeing his hair.

Dyeing his hair. Talking shit online. Confidence. Coffee. Drinking coffee. That's all we know. Right. That's all we know.

We don't know what this boy... So this is my thing. What he was doing on the team. Playing. What he was doing in the locker room. The history of... You don't know. This boy didn't try to open the emergency door on the team playing what he was doing locker room the history of you know This boy did probably didn't try to open emergency door on the plane At thirty three thousand feet you don't know

We don't know in this NBA. We do know You know the estimates on your facts. They recorded. They recorded. Like, this nigga's tripping. This nigga's tripping. Somebody on the team went, man, this boy done tried to open the damn door. He tried to kill us all. Sources tell ESPN. Yeah, sources tell ESPN. Nigga wildin' on the play. Absolutely.

My bad. I forgot what in the hell we talking about. Because when it started, when it started, when he was on live, when it did start, they were already telling, yeah, Charlotte going to wave you. Yeah. That's how it started. Yep. It started. They going to wave you, and he responded.

Check out my highlights. See, I'm guaranteed. You're going to wave me. They going to wave me. I'm going to pack my bag. I'm the GOAT. What you mean? Check out my highlights.

Bam. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shut up. Shut up. That's it. Shut what they call the fuck up. Shut up. That's it. Shut what they call the fuck up. Sit your ass down. They can move around.

Yeah. Come on, Mario. God damn. Mamma mia. Back to Harden for a second. What did Harden prove with this trade? What did he prove? He proved he going to be playing basketball this year.

That's for sure. There you go. There you go. That's what he did prove. Yeah. He's smarter. If there was any doubt. Yeah.

How long till the Barbie Coast is back operational? All I know is Crazy Girls is going to be up. Crazy Girls is going to be up. Crazy Girls is gonna be up. Highlight room. He might surprise y'all, man, and not be at the club, man. I know it's slim. It's slim done, but he probably might surprise y'all, man. I want the table next to James.

I want the table next to James and them. So we talked about this already. Harden becomes a free agent this summer. Has the potential to be able to sign a long-term extension this summer. Why will Harden with the Clippers be different than his previous stops? Because he home. There was one person that that turned down a lot of money to come home and nobody really paid attention to it. What Kawhi Leonard did and turned all that money down just because he wanted to play in front of his parents,

his moms, and his family and friends. Once a person gets home, man, it's hard for them to get out. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Ooh! Ooh! Uh-huh. Ooh! Ooh! Uh-huh. Yes, Kenny? Mr. Arenas? Uh-hmm. Ooh, ooh! Uh-huh. Ooh! Ooh! Uh-huh. Yes, Kane?

Mr. Arenas? Uh-huh. In class the other day, you stated that we know nothing about one of these guys that you're speaking of, and the other guy we know a hell of a lot about. Mm-hmm. Could you elaborate on that, what you said the other day in class, Mr. Arenas? Which one? Which day?

You said the one guy we don't know nothing about Kawhi Leonard. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So he can come to Los Angeles. Real soon. And play in front and not be effective. Going to the game. Mm-hmm.

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Mm-hmm. But still, but you... Paul Del P. Yeah. He's a fish. No, no, I get... He's like a fish. He's like a fish. I'm just... Y'all need to leave Paul George alone, man. I'm saying it from this standpoint. He will take a pay cut to stay at the Clippers, right? James Harden will take a pay... I think that's what...

I think that's what Bomber's playing on, that you guys are from here. This is where you guys want to be. So if you guys want to be here, what kind of pickers are y'all willing to take? We see with James. I mean, we've seen what Kawhi took the first time. What was that, almost $70 million?

Make me richer. We've seen with Russell. Russell wasn't even negotiating with any other teams. He tripping. I'm not going. My kids is here. My family's here. I'm not going nowhere else. We don't know what James is going to be on. He might be on the same thing. Nah. You going back on the $300 million?

Remember, James was the $300 million. That's what he already had. Just saying. That's what I'm saying. There's no negotiating with these kids anymore. You can't throw money at them how you want to. Kevin Durant showed it the whole time he was playing. Right? He got $100, $200 million for OKC.

He comes in for $28. I'm going to go to state for $28. Then, nobody really knows this, when him and Curry was up, they were offering him the max. And he was, no, this is your guy. Give him the max, I'll take whatever's left over. They're making so much money that you can't negotiate. Let's ask this question then.

Why did James Harden get mad at Daryl Morey? Because he promised me money. All right, so you promised me. So you think he's going to take less from Steve? Yeah, you promised me. Somewhere he want to be. You promised me Max. What I'm saying is you promised me Max.

And you didn't give it to me straight. And you didn't give it to me. Don't mean my deal with him is different. That's what I said. But is it going to be less? Remember I said it's not about the money. Right, it's about principle. Remember I told y'all.

I said it's not about the money. It was about principle. But I think Daryl was going to give him money, I said it's not about the money. Right. Remember I told y'all. I said it's not about the money. It was about principle. But they was going, I think Daryl was going to give him money just not what he was asking for, not what he promised him. Okay, so that's the problem.

That's the principle of it all. But remember, it's not about what you promised me. It's what I gave you money first of all. All right. So I'm giving you money

to do what you're going to do because you say you're going to do something for me on the back end. So I did my job. Here's your $20, $30 million. All right, now my deal is up. What's up?

Oh, no, I don't want to do that. So, oh, no, I can't fucking do that. Like, all right, brother, we all do that. You owe me $100. All right, brother, pay for him for $5 million. Right. So for Steve, if he's going to give him less, he just wants to make sure the principal is you gonna give me what you tell me you gonna get me That's the principal sometimes the principal Kawhi Leonard. It was a principal right with Toronto. I want to play here

I want to be back just sign Paul George. I'll take the pay cut. Mmm. I Know if we need Paul George. All right I mean so many I know somebody so much money so early in their careers. Once they get to a certain age, the money's out the window. Now I want to play where I want to play. I want to play with players I want to play with. Their playbook is back in the 80s, 90s, and the early 2000s. These dudes first... Like Wimby, right?

His rookie deal, $55 million. Yeah, $55 million. His extension, yeah, $55 million. God damn. His extension, before he's even a free agent, is going to be $192,000. After that, how are you negotiating with this kid? There's no more negotiations there. You can't negotiate with someone who already has the bag.

Right. You know what I mean? When Kawhi went, when you were negotiating, he already signed $ bag, right? But you know me with Kawhi went when you were in the go. He already signed a hundred two hundred something No, there's no negotiating with Kevin Durant how you negotiating with these dudes. Yeah, I got silicone money I got I got three four hundred what we're talking about But you say a Katie take less but here let me plug you with these these uber people or take less But I got this right, you say, hey, Katie, take less, but here, let me plug you with these Uber people. Or take less, but I got this. Right. You know, I'm just. That's what I said.

Nobody paid attention to what Kevin Durant was doing, man. No, for sure. If everybody looked at the money he turning down, like you're talking about $200 to sign, was it? Was that $48 million? To then sign $23 million to Dan signed 23 million to Dan leave like in that same three years he lost what 140 hmm so it's like a back in the back-end deal I got enough so you see a world where Harden takes less bread with the Clippers but sells a million bottles of that Harden wine through Steve

I'm going Jay-z what I would Jay-z did with Sony. Yep. You don't pre said you gonna pre buy You gonna pre buy every year Man, that's dope. I got a hundred thousand bottles you must buy. You and your company. Season ticket holders. You get free bottles. These guys got so much business going on that they can leverage anything they want that doesn't go against their cap. Yep. So before we continue, it's important to note that we've got 21,500 people in the chat right now. A new Guild Arena record!

Let's go! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We said, didn't we say? Yeah, we said. Ty Jones time. We said mushrooms! We did not make them. We said, yeah, we did.

We did not make them. Look at his face. Yes, we did. 20K? Wait, what was the deal? Nothing. Mushrooms. Oh, shit.

And they can't put these tissues on. They're like, I I was gonna keep going Mark that's how we know you're a real one or not. Hey, don't get it fucked up I still slap shit Yeah, don't get it I got the back Speaking of it. I saw Chris meals another day boy. I don't feel so time away Who we got to go shoot? Where you at? Who we got to pull up on? Speaking of that, I saw Chris Mills the other day, boy. I know.

Different stories every time I see him. It's crazy. We got to eliminate the Bear Downs. We know, okay, there's an Arizona contingent in here. Enough is enough. Enough is enough. No. Unless they got that, you know,

professor bag for me. Lurking in the wings. What's up, Willow? What's up, Willow? Last question, though, on this particular topic. West is even more stacked now. It creates an interesting dilemma. So, got a great tweet

that posed an awesome question. Old NBA tweets. One of these teams will be first round exits in the West. Nuggets, Suns, Lakers, Clippers, Warriors. Lakers. So which team in the West ain't making it out the first round? Goddamn, dog. Out of them? It depends on who's playing who. I don't want to say it. Fuck off. Come on, Darvin. Now, you see what D'Lo did yesterday, boy? Do you see what D'Lo did yesterday? He's getting it. He's been listening.

He's been listening. You know what's tough about that list? They were the top team in the East. The tough about that list is the Kings ain't even in there, and they was number two. Kings or Grizzlies. Oh, shit. That's crazy. Two of them might be in the playing game.

That's the bad part. That's the bad part. Because they can all be first-round matchups to each other. That's crazy. That's going to be awful for the NBA. They're all the good teams that don't want to be stopped. I bet you that's what I'm saying. The Eagles don't want to be stopped.

Yeah. But what would make it even better? Y'all, this is like the... What would make it better? They changed that shit to five games. Five-game series? series first game first round Maybe some fights y'all got it. Y'all got a pick one though of that crew nugget sons Lakers Clippers Warriors Can you will start with you and work away around the couch who ain't making it off the first round Lakers?

So let me know I'm sorry. I'm sorry go say Yeah, go to say that first one yeah Lakers. Oh I mean, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Golden State. Damn. Golden State out of the first round? Yeah. Lakers. Ooh. Yeah, I'm going with it. If they make it. Damn.

They can't stay healthy. They won't stay healthy. If they make it. Steph on Demon Time. You didn't see that boy out there? Who? Stephen Curry. Stephen. He's on Demon Time.

I know, but that's the problem. It's hard to talk about the Cones, too, because Bill hasn't been out there yet. That's the problem. It's Curry. It's not Golden State Ward. It's hard to talk about the Cubs too because Bill hasn't been out there yet. That's the problem. It's Curry. It's not Golden State Warriors. It's Curry. It ain't like if nobody's noticed, the rest of the team ain't been getting better as players.

It's just Curry that's been doing his thing for the last four years. That allows them other guys just to be who they are. But they ain't doing nothing. Watch. Watch. That's all you need to do. Watch. Like, we're talking about LeBron with a heavy load.

Kirby got a heavy load right now. Ooh, a little A-O, but let's keep it moving. I'm picking the Lakers. Damn, Lexi. Yeah. Can AD keep up this last one? He did three games, right? Three game stretch.

I know. He's trying to prove you wrong with the- I think he's playing well. He's playing well. He's proving us wrong right now, and then all it does is make it up three bad games, boom. Right now, look, he's three foot four from the field. For sure.

Five for ten and still 50-50. Three games, three straight double-doubles, 30-12 against the Suns, 30-16 against the Kings in that overtime loss, 26-19, five assists, three blocks. Reverse psychology. I would just keep talking shit. Yeah. Yeah. You going for the Suns, though.

You're not a Lakers no more. I got mind control. You know, Lakers took down the former number one seed in the East, the Orlando Magic. It's my perspective. They were undefeated. Damn. It looked easy, too. Top 15 team in the East.

All right, so we got y'all picked. Now let's talk about the Philadelphia 76ers you look at this These clips are gonna run for years to come and give you the average Joe's you're the Southeast Like this Leave them alone. It would be Maybe sitting right here. They'd be sitting right here just watching the game. Uh-huh.

I saw Mark Jackson this weekend. He said he's going to pray for you. Damn, man. We wish he was playing when we was there. They wish he was back there. Hey, have you noticed, like, no thing. What we don't see no more, We don't see palming, right? You know how, like, they used to back it.

They don't do that. Goofy ass. With the tongue out. Everybody's trying to be joy. They don't do that shit. Give me that. Let's talk about the Sixers. Did the Sixers get enough for Harden in this deal?

Fuck yeah. They got all they need. They got all they fucking need. To do what though? To complete a team? Like what do they have? Let's go. Go. So. Oh, there's about 20 people on the roster. Let me read it. I looked. Let me read who they got. Oh, they got to cut some people. They got to cut Danny. They got to cut Danny to make room,

but they got Marcus Morris, Batum, Covington, K.J. Martin, two first-round picks now, including a 2028 unprotected first-round pick. If anybody that always land on their fucking feet in the NBA is fucking Danny Green, move on. Go ahead. Carry on. We were passed up. They got a balanced team. They do.

They really do got a lot of integral pieces. They got a nice, they got a lot. Nick Nurse is the coach. Looking like Toronto out there. Wait, all those guys came from the Clippers? Marcus Morris, Covington, Nick Batum, KJ. Two first-round picks. All three of them play the same position.

All three of them. That was weird how they got rid of all three of you. They were trying to get rid of them guys before. A hundred percent. KJ was the most valuable piece in the deal. So they're going to cut. Do they have any more cuts to go? I mean, shit.

You know, it's the NBA. They already got Tobias. Tobias is there. That's like four, three, four. They're going to make another trade. That's what it feels like. East Coast Clippers is what you said? East Coast Clippers.

That's where those two first-round picks, I think, come in so valuably. They're going to make another trade. What is Embiid thinking? That's what I was like. How is he feeling? Really, truly, though. Sit down, exclusive interview.

Joel, talk to us. He's going to troll. But, I mean, deep down inside, he still has to look at the team. Is this a team that's going to compete? No. Right? Everyone has three legit stars and the East though Even he's got three stars be three number three

They gonna compete nice. Yeah, it could compete. Hmm. I'm saying that they'll be out first round. Yeah, they got Joel Embiid Yeah, I've watched his Boston I watched boat he had nobody was just him When he should have been averaging 40 and 20 in the series against Boston. Them kids were 25, 26 now. So that means they were 22, 23. And it was manhandling them. And I'm sitting here like, this one you're supposed to dominate. So if you're going to give us just enough to get your stats good, nah.

They're going to need another star, so they're going to have to make another trade. So you don't think Maxie's filling that gap? There's just two. But you don't think if all these players that come in fulfill a role, and they're all really good role players, knock it out. No, that's a great role player, but you still need that third. What is Tobias doing? Tobias is filling that role.

He ain't done it yet. He did it early, but he's a fourth option. But I'm saying average 15 in the league is not... 15 to 6. I'm just saying, that's what... It is, but is it impossible? I'm saying, but that's the thumb your nose at? If you ain't never been...

But if you ain't never been the first option, to average 15 on it That's what he's been consistent. Yeah with a 30 score and a 20 score and you getting 15 You know what? You showing up doing your job. That's that's something that I mean He's the only one don't want to trade because he does do his job, but like I'd rather have him as my fourth option Okay, I need doing his fucking job. So he averaged 15 and 6 last year.

He's averaging 20 and 5 this year. So far. Through three games right now, yeah. What's Max's? That's a 30. Max is averaging 30 right now. Max, he's averaging 30? And Joel's averaging what?

Think about 20, 22, 23. But think about it. With Tobias, last year he averaged 15 as a fourth option. Right. Right? And that wasn't enough. So Embiid's averaging 31, 10, and 7 so far. 230 in the 20.

I don't think Maxie's going to stay at 30, but Embiid will, I think. So what's that? That's 80 points. Maxie will be around 24, 25. Maxie's 37 and 6 right now. It's three games. 24, 25. But back to the point.

So you say Tobias Harris is good for adoption. They've got those two first round picks. You see a world where they try to package him, those picks. For another piece. You've got guys, you know, you look at what's going on in Chicago. Chicago, yeah, yeah. Oh. DeMar, Zach Levine.

Those two need to be separated. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. There's still people to be traded for. And that's where a lot of fans are saying that the Clippers fleeced the Sixers right now. But I'm looking at this deal. I'm looking at this 2028 unprotected first-round pick. And if this Clippers squad is boo-boo four years from now. Nick Nurse's teams always play together.

If you look at how they played in Toronto They all play like a cohesive unit. So the shooting guard over there Milton You got me yeah, you can you go back for the Rosen? Yeah, I think so you think you package So when the first round picks, I just said the Chicago shit listen, man is the rules You don't need no point. You got my hat keep me. You got my max point the Rosen my go-to guy If as a guard You know have inside outside then to buy Tobias is the for the fourth option People yeah

Inside outside and do you feel that's enough to keep and beat? I don't think that's enough to beat the Celtics or the Bucs, but I think unless you're in B. The playoffs, what it is, you don't know, man. When is he up? When is he up? I'm just saying. He's in for a.

Listen, one thing I know. Playoffs? You got a good coach, and you got a few animals over there, and there's some dogs. You got a chance in a playoff series. But your best player got to be one of those dogs. And That's what I'm saying. He has to be yeah, he has to be asked like as y'all see Yeah, you got you got a platter. This is mine. You got to be in demon mode You got to come out there bitch and realize I'm the biggest baddest player out here and I'm gonna fucking show y'all

So are we saying that Joel is not a dog? No, we all know that he's a great player To Shaq he needs a Kobe. Like, for him to be... Someone who gonna sit there and be on his ass all goddamn day. I think we're a little overcritical. He need to have mean streak. I think we're a little overcritical.

No, he ain't got no mean streak. No? I don't know, man. Joker don't got no mean streak. Joker's mean. Yeah. He not mean. yeah, he not mean yeah Man, he just don't show he just don't saw this cop man. I've never been to serve you Man soft Scott. I mean to who? Every saw me every day they try to look what does mean what does mean when you say mean?

What give me a comparison a player comparison? When have you seen do you think Joel willid would have did what Joker did to Morris? Nope. Yeah. Not a chance. Not a chance. Yeah. Not a chance.

He ain't hit nobody hard. Not a chance. He ain't had to. But I'm saying, I don't see him doing that at all. But that's what you're considering mean. I'm considering mean when you spin off a motherfucker in the room, no, that's not me This man felt you did some to me and I'm right back to you. I ain't wait no fucking nothing No, who's talking who altercation have we seen and be good is what he has how he had to do that has he got has Joker

Got punked by anybody in the league And because the like the white Howard no he hasn't be hasn't be Has Joker got punked by anybody in the league? No. Dwight Howard. Hasn't beat? Hasn't beat? But Embiid has to get a battery put in his back. But why? You got to give me the reasons why we're being overcritical of him not being that guy for that team. Because he consistently catches the ball in the fucking mid-post.

And shoot a jumper. And shoot a fucking jump shot. But he making it. Now, fuck that, man. 60%. He's shooting 60% from the mid-post. Shot. Let's be a counter to stop the bullshit. For real.

Stop the bullshit. Stop the bullshit. 60%? Let me ask you this. If this man made his mind up. Hear me out if this man made his mind up I'm gonna go watch that Shaquille O'Neal and I'm gonna emulate that right? You don't think you do that in this NBA I don't think he athletic enough

He don't need to be why when Shaq was When he was he made his mind up every possession I'm gonna get two feet in If he make his mind up, every possession, I'm gonna get two feet in the paint. Right. Who's stopping him? Nobody. That's my point. 100%. My point.

Joker goes to the basketball court and then be. I disagree, man. To your guy, right? Because they have to double Embiid. No one gets to double Embiid. He shoot a jumper. Because he can't double from the mid. That's what he's figured out. shoot a jumper because he's at that you can't double from the Mid that's what he's figured out. You can't double me from here. You can't double me. That's why he not on the post no more

Hey, I watch it. If there's any resistance any Any resistance with him getting to he is not fighting you one bit. Mm-hmm He go concede the catch. I'm going to catch the ball at 19 feet on the wing. I'm going to face you up, and then I might try to back you down, or I'm going to face you up and shoot a jump shot. I'm going to pump.

That's what it is, man. I think that's just his adjustments. I think that's just been him and his adjustments. If you look at him three years ago, he's been doubled so he's adjusting to the mattress I'm seeing what they do. Actually if Kevin Garnett caught the ball out there consistently and use on what would you think? depending He want to get hit If I'm born kg right boss to this but this cage, you know, I don't give any kg Timberwolves any kg Tim

Well, I'm going kg, right, right and I'm making. Timberwolves. I'm guarding KG, right? Right. And I'm making him catch the ball out of the wing consistently, every possession. Right. And he conceded every time. And you on his team. Yeah, I'm getting pissed because you let him push you off your block. 100%.

What do you expect him to do? Adjust. And do what? Get in the pick and roll. Pick and roll. No, no, no. It's me and him. Fuck the pick and roll.

Oh, you're talking about just one-on-one. I'm expecting him to fight catch the ball where you yes, you want it where you want it, right? You saying and be not doing that. He's not who's stopping him from doing that exactly himself No That's not what's happening though. That's not what that's not that's not what's happening, though. Yes, it is, dog. That's not what happened. What's happening is he's adjusting to the way teams play when he catches in the post. He's a hell of a basketball player, man. If I catch it, Dirk Nowinski is the perfect example. All that footwork.

Dirk started catching the ball at the fucking free throw line because they started doubling him in the post. And they can't double from there. Do we look at Dirk as strong as a physical specimen as Joel Embiid? If Embiid is getting charges in the post, he's doing too much in the post. But that's what I'm saying.

That ain't what I just asked you. But that's the adjustment. It ain't about how strong you are and all this other... It's bad. We're playing basketball still. The eye test. am I taller than you? Huh? Yes. Do I weigh more than you? Yes is Joellen be taller than Dirk Nowitzki. Yes, but he way more than Dirk Nowitzki. You not gonna post me up My ass. Oh, let's catch the ball. You're not gonna post me

Oh, yes, because I know how to make you catch it where I want you and I'm to catch the ball while I'm going to catch it. You're not going to post me up because I know how to make you catch it where I want you to catch it. And I'm going to catch the ball while I'm going to catch it. So that's what the defense is doing to him every time. But this is what I'm saying. When Joel Embiid is being stopped from getting to his spot, his adjustment is to get to my sweet spot. I'm getting to my sweet spot. Consistent. Why does he go to his sweet spot in the first place?

So his sweet spot is where he's trying to get to. They're not letting him get to it. His sweet spot is where he's trying to get to. They're not letting him get to it. His sweet spot is where he's getting the ball at the free throw line. I don't have no trouble getting nothing off right here. Listen, as good as he is, listen, that man pretty fucking good. Pretty fucking good. As good as he is, immaculate footwork, nice touch, size around the rim, all the great attributes for a great big man.

He shoots the ball well from the perimeter, all of that. We're saying, and people that watch this motherfucker play consistently, turn the knob, bro, turn the knob. Where's this James Harden in Houston? In Houston? Turn the knob. Where is, where is? That Houston? In Houston? Turn the knob! Where's, where's, um... That's why I'm saying y'all overcritical, because there ain't no knob.

That's a bad part. You're being overcritical. You're expecting a knob. There ain't no knob. The knob is him at the free throw line hitting 60%. So his knob is what we got right here. Right there's no next level. That's why I said, I said, if you can't accept him for who he is now your oak you're being over critical

Oh, we said on the shoulder that he has 33 with James With James he has his 33 with James. So us saying if he don't average 35 or more You asking for too much you had your fucking money asking for too much This boy's are you asking for too much you had your fucking money asking for too much this boy's are you asking for too much? Is you like you said if you're gonna be consistent be consistent Mm-hmm, like you say with Bobo. I'm expecting this cuz I've seen this Mm-hmm, same thing with your web you seen this and you want him to get this Giannis motor And he just ain't got it. Why we keep expecting him to turn that shit on it ain't there

I mean, so basically whatever's been happening you just want MVP so you cool with it. They gave it to him you want it? So today so he's cool. Okay. Yeah, we should talk about winning with him. Yes. Okay. That's why I say you be My son involved Expect him to turn the fucking knob right? Hey, yeah skill set and Attribute state there's a knob he can fucking turn and I expect it this year and beyond because You got this trophy on your mantle. They say so and beyond because you got this trophy on your mantle that say so. And everybody's fucking waiting.

So can we give AD the same expectation of turning the fucking knob on? Did what? When he was younger. I ain't talking about younger shit. I'm talking about right now. Right now. He's older. You've been turning that bitch on and off.

No, he's older. When he had to turn it up a notch he turned it up a notch Just like Steph Steph won a championship averaging 23 next year 30 Hottest man hottest man on earth. I don't know man hottest man on earth James Harden would average about 33 next level I don't know 35. There's another level That level comes with being in shape. There's another level. Like, you're telling me, you're telling me, like, throughout history, the greatest players played 38 to 40-something minutes, and you got these guys playing 32?

32, yep. Right? You're telling me you can't say all right i'm gonna dedicate this summer to you don't even he don't even need another skill right he just need the last 40 minutes a game who is he when he averages 40 minutes again go up the numbers go up 48 minutes a game because he can he can go these guys can't go like that no more yeah we're not putting too much on him i I know there's probably a few players who can play 48 minutes the whole season.

That's Westbrook one of them. Curry one of them. I feel like you put an expectation on Joker, I mean on Embiid, it's just like you expecting Giannis to have Hakeem footwork after three days. No, that's like you expecting that. I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, you did. You was expecting him toem footwork after three days. No, that's like you expecting that. I wasn't expecting that. Yeah, you did. You was expecting him to have footwork like Akeem after three days. I knew he wasn't going to get it because the other 99 players before him. Why you keep pointing out

he traveled in? Because I know what he's going to do. I said it before. I said it before. So your expectation is travel? Your expectation? No, my expectation was for him to travel. So why ain't your expectation for Joel and B to be who he is? Okay, that's why I said first round. That was the whole thing. That's the first round. Yeah, and I challenged that he challenged it Hey, no, he could I know

I watch it He turned it. No, I'm soon. You're a Sixersers fan now though. Yeah, but I've watched him prior. Yeah. I like what I see. I'm not taking nothing. Just turn the knob. We just hope. Like as basketball fans, man.

You average 33 with another guy that averaged a dominant ball, but you the number one option in this NBA. Yeah. With freedom of movement, they call it most tough. Dude, if this man decides to run his big ass down the middle of the paint every time, turn around and ask for the fucking ball, who's stopping him? Foul every time. Nobody. In an era where your foeman that's guarding you is about six-fold to six-eight now.

Yep. And he's too free to let go. Come on, man. That's all I'm saying. I like him. I've been a fan. For sure. Not my son involved, and I'm watching more now.

So we all Sixers fans now. You're fucking right. Not me. Damn it. All right. Well, fuck you, Gil. I'll let you go with that. I'll let you go with that. Well, fuck you, Gil. I'll let you deal with that. Well, fuck you, too.

See, Tyken. We got a special Mostly Fans question related to this topic. It's from UnderdogUserish24. Hey, what's up, y'all? So my question to you guys is, do you believe Tyrese Maxey is good enough to be the number two option to keep Joel Embiid satisfied, or do they have to go ahead and find another number two option and make him the three option?

Isn't that what he just said? Isn't that what he was just talking about? If his number stays 25, what it is, yes. He's number two. Yes, fuck yeah. Damn, but, like, people want to look at your name. If his name is Tyrese Maxson, he's averaging 25 fucking points a night. That's more than fucking...

He's number two, absolutely. Is it about how you get that 25, though? What the fuck you mean? Like, how you getting it? No, no, no. How you getting it? Have we cared about how anybody else scored a fucking 25? Yeah. Besides Gilbert. It's about how you get to 25

He's gonna get his 20s. He is this 25 like Jordan Poole. He seems to know her. Okay, it's not he's like Kevin Martin I'm a Martin you see no He can be a good two option. No, he's simpler he can get a real simple place fast more fish used to Bob No, he's not. No, he's a no.'s a good I'm just be real to you right now. He's shooting 50% from the field 56% from three Any work yeah, I've been I know anybody these fucking works his ass off he works He works he defends. Oh, yeah, he's a good to second option. He honey from the city. So, you know what the fuck we do man I'm talking about So yeah, he's a good second option. And he from the city, so you know what the fuck we do, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about...

Yep. God damn it. Great second option. Sixers fan. Sir, Mr. Martin. Burn all this clipper shit. You should have did that. You should have did that. I'm going to be one of them fans.

I'm going to be one of them guys. All right, if you do it, post the video. I'm going to make a video. I'm going to bring this shit right. This is good. This can't burn on him We'll try it we're defying we got the fireplace over there we got a fireplace and get the pit I don't even know that barrel and it was up to turn it off. We'll bring a barrel

It's the bring a barrel bigger barrel in So roll some marshmallows or some oldest motherfucker if you're the Sixers, how do you handle Daryl Morey's future? How much time do you give him? He gone. I think if they get one more in, and they make it to that second round again. It seemed like the team was better when... Elton Brand was... When Elton Brand was the face.

Agreed. When Elton Brand was making the decision, he was the face. Agreed. When Ellen Brand was making a decision, he was the face. He understood basketball and I think they just felt that they needed to try to bring somebody else in. What is his credentials? I don't know.

What's Morris' credentials? Is he part of that fast twitch movement where not fast twitch, of the new algorithm on how teams operate, the small ball. Is he analytics guy? Is he analytics guy? Oh, he's one of them goofy motherfuckers, man. He still rocks the shoe more than me.

Yes. All right, so he's the one that doesn't understand reality versus Instagram. He's an Instagram guy, not a reality guy, where you're trying to do this Golden State motto, which their motto is in the game, and yours was a starting one. Oh, no, he was the, when they shot 27 straight threes and missed?

Yeah. That was his motto where? He was there. P.J. Tucker was the center. Oh. And they got rid of. Yeah. That was his motto where. He was there. P.J. Tucker was the center. Oh. And they got rid of Capella. No, no, no. That was a huge thing.

They got rid of Capella. Anderson and Trevor. Trevor. When they got rid of the actual good team. And bring in, you know, the AAU squad. You had your point guard at five, six foot. Then your shooting guard at six foot, then James, and then PJ Tucker.

Six-five is your five. We wouldn't even do that on a video game. 2K don't even get that lineup. But look, going back to Elton, was Elton responsible for the Ben Simmons debacle with Doc and them? No. Who was responsible for that? Well, technically,

because he's the one who made the trade. Glenn? Or he's the one who accepted that deal. Right. But, you know, it was Doc

back door... Have you heard that motherfucker on the... Sound like a frog? That's the worst voice you want on the TV. I'm sorry.

That's not what it is. He actually sounded a little better than I thought he was going to sound. Go back and get Mark Jackson, man. He sounded a little better than I was expecting. No, he sounded exactly how I expected him. Fucking walking dance. No, like, it was, like, that was part of when I was talking to a third party. You bring Doc over there, Doc has never had a PG like this and every time he's dead he

doesn't know how to use it so he's going to get mad at him, you're going to trade him, eventually you're going to have to trade him. I can see it coming. And I wouldn't have made it, but you know it's Doc. Sometimes when you're young you want that or you're new to something You want names, right? Right, you want names and you know when when when Eldon was looking for names That was the biggest name for Brett. That's when Brett Brown was the coach. Brett Brown was a coach and he was

So and it was the bubble so it was the bubble Doc was with the Clippers and I guess doc found out he was about to get fired after he already Told Elton to go for Ty Lue. Yeah, like he Stamped I knew get him and then when he found out he was getting fired There was always there was already some bullshit going on with Brett and Ben Simmons. Mama mia! Remember, Brett was throwing him under the bus. Brett was throwing Ben Simmons under the bus at the time.

And when Doc came in, he thought it was going to be better. Dysfunctional pedophilia. And it went worse. No, Brett threw Jimmy Butler under the bus. That's why Jimmy Butler left. Got left. But no, remember remember Ben ended up playing bad that

when soon as Doc came in that's when Doc was like I don't trust Ben to be our point guard no that was that was the second season so the first season so the first season was good okay so the Doc's first show okay so I'm in Philly now Boston lost to I mean

Ben Simmons was hurt in the playoffs Boston got swept right I mean Philly got. Boston lost to, I mean, Ben Simmons was hurt in the playoffs. Boston got swept. Right. I mean, Philly got swept by Boston. And then, you know, Doc is coming in. Okay. So Doc is coming in, and then, you know, that whole thing.

And then after. And Elton was. I think Maury came in already. Okay. Well, I mean, shit. They might need to bring Elton back. Get him out of here. The idea of it

was just the experience of it. I ain't saying he's better than Elton. He's just been around it longer. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't need it. But that's the thing. Why didn't he get my opportunity? Like, you've been around

longer. What have you done? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Same thing with some of these coaches. You done had all this talent. What have you done with it? Moving further.

Nothing. It's a move. It's a move like... Yeah, that's all it is. Oh, yeah, we won 60 games here. Like, if this is his best team, why do you think he's going to do something better with this team? He didn't do it with that team,

and this team was real players, and they did this. Nothing changes. Who was the coach, though? D'Antoni. D' better with this team? He didn't do it with that team, and this team was real players, and they did this. Nothing changes. Who was the coach, though? D'Antoni. D'Antoni. Yeah, it didn't work. That's a D'Antoni boy thing.

Yes. It's analytic dudes. If you want to sell my product, cool. Manipulate the numbers. Manipulate the roster. And that's our thing. We can fake like we're trying to win championships and shit, but we're only here just trying to get the value of this team up and win some money.

Cool, I get it. Just saying. Hey, yeah, you know, come to regular season because we're going to be bomb. Playoffs, we're not ready for that. Regular season, get your tickets. Playoffs, good luck. That's my selling motto. Regular season, we're going to get another journey management playoffs damn damn i'm here regular season l brand playoffs

good luck it will succeed it's on him it's on him it's on him i got it guaranteed 55 to 63 i won 54 last year formula works yeah no i just no, I just think it should be a good balance with both, man. And it's unfortunate with the game that some organizations pay more attention to the analytical part of it and not the basketball part of it. And it's still basketball, in my opinion, well, fuck my opinion. Basketball is simple math. And people make this shit out to be some rocket science and fucking trigonometry Entirely too much. Mm-hmm

It is real simple. But when you start overthinking it, yeah to the people who analytics are 70 and basketball is 30. Yeah other other way around Yeah, then you have these situations these guys that know fucking numbers. They went to school for fucking numbers. They numbers guys Don't know shit about basketball, but they they can put some numbers together and tell you what your salary cap gonna be in four years That's all I need right there. God. You know what my, you know what I'm saying? That's business finance. Yeah, that's exactly what it is, man. It's a game of basketball.

My damn power forward is six-fold. My two guards, six-two. My point guard, six-one. I'm supposed to win some games? Yeah. All right. Because one thing I do know. I don't know what analytics you're looking at,

but I can tell you that, yeah, y'all ain't going to make it too long. Yeah, the size of this sport fucking matters. Matters. God damn, what you think? Just like in this sport fucking matter. Matter. Goddamn. What you think? Just like in football, speed matter. In this shit, fucking size matter, man. Well, at least we shot 38% from three. No, what I'm saying is like when they put...

Yeah. At least we shot 38% from three. Yeah. What I'm saying is like that Rockets team, right? I don't know what equation your machine pushed out but if my point guard at six one got a 26 inch vertical right at 30 something heat that my shooting guard is six two with a third four inch vertical right then I got James Harden who probably has 38 39 right then my foe man who six fold with

probably a 21 inchinch vertebra. What happens when just somebody drives? Who blocking who? No, there's no defense. Who's stopping who from a layup? Like, God damn it,

they can't hit the rim. Not my hope. They can't hit the rim. They're taking charges. Rebound. Taking charge. I trust the aces on defense more

than this goddamn group. One thing I know. I'm athletic as they fucking come. 6'9", jump out the roof. Certain guys, I jump as high as I fucking possibly jump. Rebound. What you doing, little fella? What you doing, little fella?

Can't teach it. Can't teach height. Can't teach it, can't coach it. Can't teach height. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What you doing, little fella? What you doing, little fella? Uh-huh. Can't teach it. Can't teach height. Can't teach it, can't coach it. Can't teach height. You can't. Can't teach height. So when you're making these fucking decisions,

oh, well, shit, we're going to shoot these men. This guy can't shoot. You're eliminated. Like, you go, you get rid of Ken Capella. Yeah. 15 boards. This man averaging 15 a night. Two or three blocks.

So you mean to tell me you can't use 15 rebounds a night in two blocks? He averaging a double-double. He averaging 10, 15, and like one and a half, two a night. Two, all lob dunks. And you get rid of him for what? P.J. Tucker. I like P.J. as a person. I do.

I really do. Not at the five. No, I'm denying it. Good guy or not, man. What? I mean, he's playing at five. He's an asset. He's a special player.

Yes, my nigga. I love him to death. Guarding a one, two, three. One, two, three. Go get him. Not four or five. Yeah. Go get him.

You fucking with him now and in his specialty like what they do Like what do they do when they played Brooklyn in the playoffs? Yeah, what he was doing the fucking Kevin Durant Durant get him open the gate get him get him get him Kevin Does it Kevin Durant and then if Kyrie was going go get? Get him okay, Janice stop Go get One two three PJ took every time yeah, yeah No, you can't somebody got this really now your time, I need you guard. Yoke is like come on. Yeah, come on Relax like about crimes. I go guard shit fucking really really

Not a chance really him Okay Put it on the score book 35 Wow yeah, I'm a score of 35. Wow. Yeah. Put it on the score book. 35. What are they going to have? Maybe more. But, yeah, with me guarding, they're going to have 35. Pinching in 35, going up. You know what I'm saying?

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I'm going to. Lexi, where the party at tonight, Lexi? You got your ear to the streets. I'm partying all weekend, I'm tired. Oh, shit, man. When it count, you gonna go to sleep. Mario's ass was eating mushrooms and turning into a superhero. Turning up on a Tuesday.

Come on. They let us know years ago what that life was about. So it is Halloween. Best part of Halloween is the costume. So we got to show some love. First, we got to head out to Milwaukee. Greek the freak, as Gil likes to call. Pulled up in the Incredible Hulk.

Oh, you got too much money. Hennessy and hypnotic. You ain't putting no effort into that. Just throw your little son's outfit That mass entirely too small My son got on at school right my son damn show hawking here in kindergarten So we know y'all is like to save money credit credibly thrifty just give me The undersized.

I get out of one. Okay. Yeah, that's good. All right, you sure? He stopped for gas on the way in, like, damn, I forgot my costume. You got to put a bunch of money to be like that. Come on. The Nass is going to pull up on y'all.

You would think with his personality, he goes out. Some, some. Yeah, you thought he would be crazy with it. So my son didn't get to wear his costume for disclosure This is what KJ was gonna be for Halloween going to the game. They play tonight. Oh, so you know what other team play tonight? he was gonna be Michael so I Had to get it from gotcha. I got you my dude. I gotcha. So you guys all remember the the photo of LeBron and Draymond

Whoa, I don't remember that but they done gentrified Why is he sweating all sweaty sweat like a wedding probably wedding that's his way what is he sweating? Why is he sweating? At a wedding probably. At a wedding. That was his wedding. What is it, hot? What do you mean? Hey, nigga. Hey, Draymond wedding. I'm pretty sure Draymond is holding an entire bottle or something. Hey, he had a bottle in his hand. You ever been?

Yeah. Hey, you ever did this? You ever did that? At a wedding. First of all, he was probably sweating when he walked in there. Listen, man. Listen, man. Shirt open.

He was on button three by then. By the end of the night, he probably didn't have his shirt on. Shit. Nigga, I had a whole outfit change. Nigga, my wife came in the room after our wedding. I was on the bed, nigga. Now, weddings are... Wed night, like this, nigga.

She got a picture of me. Now, weddings are different. Done. what is our difference? Dunn. Open bar too? Dunn zone. Open bar. And it's his wedding? Man, he dance, party, everybody shot this. He got a whole bottle of Lobos in his hand. In his hand.

Dude. Not a shot glass. No, not a glass. A whole bottle. And you, of course, he got his man there. He got his man there. And like most of us, you know people in the liquor business. He didn't pay for none of that liquor, just like I'm on.

I didn't pay for no liquor. And it's free. And we passing it out and we drinking it. You got to drink it. We can't take it home. We got to drink it. Great cash bar. So guess what?

He got a whole shirt open. Time is... But it wasn't a good reenactment because you can't reenact real-time shit. Yeah. Especially not that. They should have sold them to hell. I've just never seen that picture before.

Really? He's had a blast. He was sweating profusely. Oh, yeah, profusely. Oh, you've never been in a club? I haveia. I have been in club with Antoine Jameson Yes Sure God never sees some work. We got naked in the clip Try get a movie like yes 20 minutes later you kind of ship and Dale's

Take the show off to the room. Pat. So I'll come on. Ruben Patterson. Ruben Patterson. Man, where your shirt at? Yeah. It's your second money talk, man.

My nigga Craig Smith, man. Big black rhino, bro. No, that wasn't a good one. I don't know. We got Chargers wide receiver Josh Palmer pulled up. Oh, no. Yeah. Yo.

Not to the arena, though. You're going to come to the arena. Makes it better. Hey, yo. With the blicky. John Moran did that. He came as Gilbert Arena. Hey, if John Moran did that, oh my God. He's donezo. It was Halloween.

That'd be funny though, right? That'd be funny. They would've missed the whole joke. No, they would've missed the whole joke. I know, but it's- It would be funny to us. It would be funny. It would be funny to us.

Gil, that's some shit that you would do. For sure. For sure some shit you would do. You should've came as Rambo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Strapped all on him with the 50s like- What's up? What's up?

What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? That's the shit that you would do for sure some situation should have came as Rambo The next up that was a good that was really good that was really good we have Michael Myers at the Beards last game as a Sixer with a bring me Harden sign Can't bring me Where was you at? Where was you at?

That's Kenyon. Where was you at a few days ago? That was Kenyon. For sure. Oh, shit. That's funny. Bring me Harden. I didn't know they let people

in the games with masks. Last but not least, we had Trey Murphy, who dressed up as Omar the ref. Damn. Yo. But not least we had Trey Murphy who dressed up as Omar the ref It was the kid at the school this morning dressed like he had a ref but he was blind he had the cane and all The glasses and all it was the funniest shit ever. Wow. There was some kids that got up real early to get ready for school today.

They got ready for school today. To get ready for how to wear the costume to school. Yeah. So they had a little parade at school this morning. I'm like, yo, kids took their time. Who got the best costume? Shit, I want to wear it. The best shit I seen was last year.

The pre-K teachers coming off all the COVID shit they had on hazmat suits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the best shit ever. It was The best shit I seen was last year, the pre-K teachers coming off all the COVID shit they had on hazmat suits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was the best shit ever. It was the best shit I done seen, because they did it with pre-K and a few of the kids that had COVID already, lived before Halloween. It was like the week before, it was like two kids in pre-K came up with COVID, and it was like right on time.

They came in the hazmat suits. I was like, yeah, y'all win. Yeah, yeah. All right, it's Halloween, so I got to hit the panel with a scary question. Someone posted this tweet the other day. Really got me thinking. Do we got the MPJ or Cam Thomas?

Hold on. No, it's Halloween. They out there eating Snickers. Well, you should read it. No, it's better when it's visual. Chad ain't going over there got shit to do Yo, my dude we got it or not store the other day if we don't got it All right, so here's some st. Laurent shorts at the other day, dog. They fucking up in the back. Not like how they used to wear the Hoochie Daddy shorts.

No, they ain't Hoochie Daddies. These motherfuckers are Daisy Dukes. I said, it was about five people that worked in the store talking. I was like, the people that work here, are these men's? They was like, unfortunately they are. I was like, people that work here are these means It was like unfortunately are That's what we doing do guarantee if any man were those You nuts falling at the bottom schemes

Hey, you guys fall To that's the thing leather leather leather how far too far Halloween You're not taking it out. No, I'm just saying can we can't are you allowed to go at like like communities on Halloween? No, yeah, you mean no No Can we play on the air? I'm just saying, no. Explain yourself. OK, no. Wait, what was the next question? Uh-huh. No, the answer. Basketball community. Just say no. We was going to.

OK, Lexi. Yes. Yes. No. Yes, Gilbert. I'm just saying, how far? Basketball community. Do they laugh?

Gilbert don't got no chill. Probably so. Were they laughing? Some of them have. Listen. There's some of them have. Everybody has a sense of humor to a certain degree. No chill, Gil.

His name is no chill. Okay, black. No chill. Is it today okay for blackface? No. Come on, man. No. Get on, man. For who to put on blackface?

But for who to put on blackface? Of course white folks. No. Come on, man. Is it okay for me to put on blackface? black widow, but I'm not black enough. Okay, but some people Different realm of about pigmentation Need to be 345 a.m. Blackface and you need to pick a new costume. I'm just saying like this Okay, what I'm saying is figure out which one is appropriate.

They could be slaves. They could be slaves. I've seen people dressed up as slaves. So girls can be sluts, slutty cats and trees and shit. But white people can put on black bags. You know, that's not even comparable. I feel like if the costume is done well enough, it just got to be, who are they trying to be, though?

If it's on Saturday Night Live, you might get away with it. Like Jimmy Campbell. You might. The key word in that phrase is might. It depends on who's doing it. Listen, we can't just let it go. I'm saying it depends on who's doing it. So a white person can't get nobody back.

You can, but you've got to paint your face black. Why not? Then how are we supposed to know who they are? reference picture we would not have had any idea what that We're all sick. I'm agreeing. We probably would have laughed. Without the reference picture, we would not have had any idea what that person was. You're right. Black or white. What I'm saying is there's some times when we see an outfit and we're like, who are they supposed to be? The only thing they could do was put on their jerseys and then...

Maybe. Under that and maybe... I want the real. I need to know who you're trying to be. That was a weird... Who are you trying to beat? All right, so we've got our scary Halloween question ready to go. Okay.

Let's get that video up. One has to get four assists to save your life. Oh, I saw that. Who you got? MPJ or Kim Connell? Someone said, just make sure my funeral is nice. That's what someone said. Damn.

Damn. Damn. I. Damn. Mm-mm-mm. Damn. Good feeling, man, by the way. Thank you for filling. I saw that. I see Michael Porter in person, man. He don't see nobody on the floor. And Cam ain't there.

Cam's like, I've been on the bench long enough. I feel like Cam. I think I got a better chance with Cam. Give me the gun. Give it to me. Give the gun. We didn't give back the gun. I mean, Michael Porter could get it because, like, if he don't have a shot, he has to pass it.

Hey, he's not doing that. Cam don't need to pass. He going to figure out how to get a shot off. And I think Cam got a bigger chip on his shoulder than the MPJ. Like, he literally on some, like, I'm on... I'm gonna go with the MPJ, and then I'm gonna just, like... I'm not even gonna watch the game. I'm gonna just be there. Just let me know.

Chopping blocks. Just like this. The guillotine. That's the guillotine. Yeah, yeah. Just sit there. Let me at least choose the way I go. Yeah, yeah. Hey, underdog, we know y'all are watching this. Tim, y'all got to come with the special.

Nah, don't do no.5. Make it a regular, but give us both the four. Four. So I know I got you. But it got to be the spicy one. Spicy one. Spicy, I don't want nothing. Give it regular. Four. Four. Oh, it's this. 500 extra bread.

They'll give you.5 and you'll be sitting like They gotta go for it both of us your forces in the same night Nike joint when we won't call the fun police you ain't even in the ball touch the ground. That was a good conversation. That was the funniest shit going. Realest shit going. They had the best commercial of their life. Man, they ain't going to pass it to nobody, boy. Call the fun police.

All right, so last segment before mostly fans. We got some spooky questions to get into. You look around the league right now. Who's the most feared player in the NBA right now? Most feared? Most feared. For their game, not for their ability. Meaning I don't want to go up against this motherfucker?

Yeah. I'll say... I don't want to go up against this motherfucker? I'll say... I'm going to Curry. Okay. I'm going to Luka. No.

Ooh. Got him. Hallelujah. I say money curry. Okay, I'm going looping Hallelujah You guys thought with the shoulder moving like that water so be moving This fucking Mario and Gucci You gonna say Joker? Yeah Okay all acceptable option Who's the most feared player in the NBA right now, can you

Steph okay But to your point like Like people on my line, like I said, Luka couldn't play basketball at all. Like I said, he was trash. Like, I'm entitled to my fucking opinion. Just straight up. Like, I like Kyrie. I'm like, I like Kyrie.

I've been a Kyrie fan. Just because he going to fan on the team with Luka, I'm supposed to be like, you know what? Fucking Luka better. Like, no. Like, I'm going to stand like a great basketball player. They drafted him for a fucking reason in the lottery pick, all that. But I'm a stand-like, a great basketball player. They drafted him for a fucking reason and, like, lottery pick, all that. But I'm a Luka guy.

But why? I just like, I mean, I'm a Kyrie guy. So you're biased on just... No, I'm not biased for shit. So why is he better? Because I fucking like him better. So that's a bias. No.

No! If they play one-on-one, who won it? Yeah. Is that what makes you a better player, one-on-one? Fuck yeah. No, it if they play one-on-one who wouldn't Yeah, is that what makes you a better player one on one? Yeah. No, it's not Cuz Lucas average 3680 the team environment even environment. So I'm saying that's player. We're talking about a player. He's a player one-on-one as a player That's all you guys value one-on-one more than five on five. Is that's no as an individual as an individual guard Yeah, sure. Like I'm'm looking at, listen, man.

I'm taking nothing away from this man. I don't give a fuck how many buckets someone like Klay Thompson scores. And, you know, whatever shooter, just stand still shoot. As a guard, I can average 10. You're not better than me. We play one-on-one, you're getting barbecued. Because I know you can't dribble past two dribbles, right? So when it comes to just standing your own, like king of the hill, there's no chance to have these players.

That's the one-dimensional side of the game. Oh, that is too. Because you don't have to pass to nobody and you don't have other players on the floor to stop you from your spots. You're just going straight line drive to get by somebody. Who's a better player or who's a better basketball player? That was the question. Who's the better basketball player?

No, who's the better player? Better player. Basketball player. Because when we talk about player, we're not even considering 505. That's basketball. So is the player. We are the player. But we talk basketball.

No, we say who's the best player. Talent. Basketball. No, we say who's the best player. We talk basketball. But if we say who's the best basketball player. And there comes a talent, right? That's different. And the talent is included. Who's the better basketball player? Is the talent included in that, right?

Player and basketball player. Is talent included? Player 101, basketball player. That's why you got to really like, if you're going to include talent. Kyrie's the better. Kyrie's more talented. He's more talented. I remember something on the list. That's why you got it really like if you're gonna include talent Cuz I reason what's happening more town These players Hoopers and these are best. Well, yeah, but I don't remember what the difference between the two was Hooper is Jordan pool Okay, so okay Hooper

Who is a hoop? Greco, no, That's playing basketball. Joker is a basketball player. I feel like... LeBron is a basketball player. Chris Paul is a basketball player. Chris Paul is a basketball player. Steph is a hooper. Like, huh?

Steph is a hooper. Is a basketball player. I think he's a hooper. I feel like he's bilingual. I think he can go anywhere. I think he's a hooper player. He's a hoop... No, okay.

He might be a hooper. He's a basketball player who can hoop. It's like it's like being a shooter. He's a hybrid. So he's the opposite. So like another guy saying like, are you a shooter or are you a scorer? Yes. Are you a scorer that can shoot or you're a shooter that can score? It's very different. Yeah. Playing the difference. Yeah. So he's a I'm a shooter that knows how to score. You're a shooter first? Yes. Okay.

That knows how to score versus Jordan Poole, who's a score that can shoot. So what would consider you to be a shooter? Is it percentages, what you shoot from the field, what you shoot from the three? I think it's volume. Mechanics, everything. Everything's your shot selection. Shot selection, efficiency, all of those things. So being a scorer is having a knack for getting buckets.

Yeah, so Allen Iverson was a scorer. Right now, if you gave him a shot later in his career, he'd be a scorer that can shoot. So when you talk about tier-level scoring, is that a scorer's mentality more than a shooter's mentality? Shooter's mentality is more Clay, then. Clay's a shooter. Clay's a shooter. He's a shooter.

Clay don't know how to score. Yeah, he don't know how to score. Right. Yes. Right. 100%. I get it. I get it.

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No, he's right. No, he's right. No, he's right. No, he's right. Stupid fucking people that just take gonna take the clip. Yeah be like you don't know how to score Oh, can you Martin say play don't order right? No without the concert fucking different. Mm-hmm No, he can score after the bitch. Listen one of the best shooters the games ever seen and go ever see Big fan, but there's a difference It's a difference. You go give me a bucket. You would say right is a score that became shooter. I think so Nah, I think he was a shooter that knew how to score a little bit

See new out score a little bit Right. I'm an out of school. It's right. It was a score score. It was a score. It was a score earlier No, no, right. Right. Put that bit on the day the shooter. No, right. I mean you so Ray was a shooter that could say Yeah books Ray slashed that came with was a slasher. Yeah. Bucks Ray slasher that came with that, that worked on that. Yeah. Yeah. But the shot. Yeah, the Ray Allen I grew up watching.

Same as, same as, same as Kerry Kittles. So Kobe would have been what? Same thing. A score that turned into a shooter? Say it again? Kobe. Kobe was a score that turned into a shooter? Yes.

Kobe was a score that turned into a better score. A better score? Yeah. He was a score that turned into a better score. A better score? He was a score that turned into a better score. Like Kevin Durant is a shooter. 100% shooter.

A shooter that can score. Flat out score. Yeah. Yeah. Dirt is a shooter that can score. Yep. I got it.

So, Ken, you saw you get into some people on Twitter over that Luka situation. Next time, you don't even got to respond. Just take a Luka Lakers Photoshop, make that that Luca situation. Next time, you don't even got to respond. Just take a Luca Lakers Photoshop. Make that your

response. Yeah. And then you don't have to worry about it. I mean, they'll drive. They'll go. Dickhead talk. Yeah. Go take shot at nigga, man. I ain't listen. If I see it, I don't look at it. I say something and I close my phone. Right. I'm not. I'm

close the app. But yeah, I just happen to be that you called me at the right. Right? That's what it is. I close the app. But yeah, I just happen to be... You called me at the right time this morning. You opened it up. First thing I see, you called me at the right time this morning. Y'all posted in the group. I was like, fuck is this? LukaFan's very passionate. Yeah, and they should be.

Very passionate. They should be passionate. He's very good. Thumb up and heart for me. You know what I'm saying? I think Luka's seen that shit too. He's very good. Luka's seen that for me. You know what I'm saying? He's very good. Lucas seen that shit too.

He's good. He's very good at basketball. He is very good at basketball. I'm not saying he's not. Let's keep it moving. Both things can exist. No, we are. Look, I see you in real life multiple times a week. Whatever

you say, go. Alright. I don't want no smoke, dog. Whatever you say. I don't want no action, killer. It's too much, it's too much. You represent both sides out here today. I don't want no problem. Oh my man.

About to be on these mushrooms in a little bit. It's a Mario joke. Alright. That was good. Who's be on these mushrooms in a little bit. It's a Mario joke. All right. That was good. Who's the most feared player in NBA history? The person they called the Black Cat. Michael Jordan. Okay.

Shaq. Michael Jordan. I said Kobe. Mm. Put Kobe over MJ? Yeah. Yes. Nobody's wanted no smoke with Shaq, man.

That's just because he's just big and whatever. That's the whole point. That's the whole point. I don't know. There's no real stories I heard that like don't look at him in his eye. I mean... They told the AEA don't look Michael Jordan in his eyes. That's a whole nother goddamn scary.

Don't look him in his eyes, goddammit. Like, people weren't doing petty shit like Gil when you brought out the Adidas shoes and painted them to, like, get on Kobe's nerves. Like, people wasn't doing that to Shaq. Shaq? They was trying to survive. Right, but I'm saying, like...

You know what happens when you try to... You gotta try and play mind games with the king of mind games. You know how scary it's gotta be to try to survive? No, but the only problem with Shaq was the NBA didn't give him freedom of what it was. Like if they say we're going to call the fouls that we're supposed to call on him, right, and he's shooting 30, 40 free throws a game, yeah, he becomes a whole other player. But the fact that you're not calling him made him seem guardable. Like, even though he's averaging 28, right, 28, 29, he seems guardable because you're not giving him everything.

Now, if you gave him every foul that he deserved, oh, yeah, he'd be the scariest man on earth because he's shooting 40 free throws. You play with Todd McCullough? I play with Big Dick. McCullough, Brian Grant, Sabonis, all them. Hey, listen, man. Hey, look. But look. It's the time.

It's the time. It's the time out there. You got to go out there against the big Aristotle. That's right, folks. I got a funny Todd McCullough story. Traded Todd McCullough for Dikembe, right? So they had just lost. The Philly had just lost to the Lakers.

And we lose, right? They bring Dikembe. Todd, Axe, Rod, Thorne. So y'all didn't trade me because I can't guard Shaq, right? He said, I hope not because y'all know he can't guard me. He can't guard me. That's an unfair trade right there. No, no, no.

I hope that ain't what y'all did. Listen, he just abused him the year before, so shit. Listen. Listen. All right, man. I was like, what? Well, let's keep this thing moving. We got a special promo to celebrate the show going over 20,000 viewers today.

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Demon time. They're setting a picture in their Halloween costume. Demon time over there. Joseph. Lamar. Lamar. It threw me off, too. Hey, Lamar.

Lamar would have been the big three. I'm looking this way. I'm like. I saw invisible man, and I was like. Good shit right here. Right through me up to Okay, so going over 20 Meet me. Not right now, girl. Not right now. Delete, delete, delete, delete. Not right now. Clips are going to come out from this show.

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No, that's real. So now it's time for our last segment of the day, this very special Halloween show. Mostly fans. Oh, hell, I'm hot as shit in this dicky suit. Man. Tell you that much. But that Halloween smoke. Yeah.

Shit. I had a Joe Smith joke, but I'm gonna just say it. They fucking up in the back. They fucking up in the back. They fucking up in the back. They fucking up in the back. That's hilarious. First question comes from underdog username Datafloss. Are the Clippers now the favorites out the West?

No. No. I don't think so. Damn. No. Did all that? Of course they are. What?

Of course you would say fucking yeah. Of course they are part of me the biggest sons We haven't seen them will be oh, but part of me. I got a question thinks that they're gonna be very hard to go on paper This is on paper I mean is the town gonna be But this was a boom on paper the Clippers look like they could make a run and do some more than the Sun and on papers of Denver No, yeah, no five starters. Oh shit They doing all this He's still right there and they return all five starters and everybody talking all this bullshit and they got yeah

He over that motherfucker like. Being underrated again. But they do look like, on paper, like they would be the best team to come out the West. They have the best talent in a certain five. No, actually, they have the best team.

At paperback. Actually, they have the best team. If you look at their roster. Oh, the roster. The whole roster, they got a whole five and second five. They didn't lose nobody. Who? They got P.J. Tucker. They didn't lose nobody. Norm Powell, Bones, they got James Harden and another defender. Yeah, throw that up.

Throw that up. I feel like we should jump off. Top it. Top it. Be a little. Top it. We got to pull up and flip against the Michael Myers outfits. Tell me something that looks better.

Any team that got two big men? The defending champs. What team is that? Everybody that won championships in the last eight years? Nope. The defending champs? What team is that? Everybody that was The defending champ, huh? You too little bandage it Show me a little squad. That's one of the last eight years And show me one person on a roster that can go out there and chase them all Murray ran

Warriors not one small People think war at warriors the end of the game was small just like the Bulls You tell me to grab another five at the like Robin at the five They had to fold he didn't start at the five cool coach at the five and yeah, that's the end of the game lineup That's not their starting lineup. Do they got so show me a starting lineup that starts off small ain't even some other star I'm just saying the roster is the roster good enough to make a Run who Denver no Clippers Clippers Clippers got a team saying the roster is the roster good enough to make a run. Who, Denver? No, Clippers. Clippers got a good enough team to make some noise. For the regular season, yeah.

When it's come down to get a fucking stop in the fourth quarter of a playoff series. You got Zubac. I wouldn't expect that. But what's funny is Zubac probably wouldn't finish the game. I'm not a fan of Zubac. I need somebody else over there. That's the only problem with the Clippers for me is like-

Who else you gonna go pay? Man. You ain't got no money. You dropped the piggy bank on the floor, nigga. Andre Drummond? Like I said. He on the team, ain't he? You gotta trade for him, right?

Chicago, Zubac, Drummond. So I say he's on the team and you gotta trade for him. So I say he's on the team and you gotta trade for him. So I say he's on the team and you gotta trade for him. So I say he's on the team and you gotta trade for him. So I say he's on the team, ain't he? You got to trade for him, right? Zubac. He's on the team, and you got to trade for him, so next question.

All right. Let's pray. I'm not praying for no clipper. Just for a healthy season, kid. For everybody's health and wellness. Next question is a video question for MoseyFansUser BMAC32. So, my question is for teams at the beginning of the season

like, you don't know, the Lakers, the Pelicans, and the Hornets, like you know going in you don't have a real chance at winning the chip this year. What's the overall goal for those teams this year? Like, is it just to develop young talent? Is it to put on a good season?

Like, what is the real goal going into the season when you know, like, the Rockets and stuff? You don't have an actual chance at winning the chip. What's the overall goal? And is it, like, what is it like as a player when you're in those situations? Why he look completely disgusted? No, no, no. I'm mad he put the Lakers up in there. Trolling in a Raven sweatshirt is a bold move.

No, but I mean, you know, listen, there's only five teams that really want to win a championship. That want to or can? That want to. That actually go into the season like, I want to win a championship. You got 15 teams that want to

make the playoffs. Then you got 10 teams that really just don't give a shit. They don't care. We're in a market where we don't need to win shit and our fans are going to come. So when you think of that, what five teams want to win a championship then the other 15

just want to make the playoffs. So whatever team you named, right? Pelicans. Lakers. Playoffs. I just want to make the playoffs. Playoffs. Charlotte Hornets.

Huh? Charlotte Hornets. I want to make the playoffs. Yeah, the people in Charlotte will be happy they make the playoffs. Yeah, they just, you know, it's playoffs. Some teams like... Magic. No.

They want to make the playoffs, but they not gonna make the playoffs Houston Houston's Nate Oh Nick Nick Nick Nick's don't have to win nothing when they open them doors 1 million dollars every time they open them doors Yeah, it's a waiting list for see all this waiting list for CCT Hawks. They got a they got away They got a big big house. They got a big play. Yeah,. They got to win. They got to make the playoffs. They got to make the playoffs. Yeah, they got to make the playoffs. Yeah, they got to. Utah?

They're coming anyway. Yeah, they're going to come. They're selling out no matter what. Yeah. Clippers, Lakers, I mean. Can we pull that video back up? You don't have to play it, but we just want to see the dude's face again. Stackhouse?

Yeah. Can we pull the video back up? So, my question. Like, he's so. Hey, somebody say, why Stackhouse asking questions? Shout out Marty W. It's for teens at the beginning of the season. That's hilarious.

His face was confused. He had confusion written all over his face. Like, why y'all even playing? Why y'all even watching? What are they thinking? Playoffs. Get to the playoffs. I don't know.

I have no idea. Player development. I had never been on the season. I used to have these conversations with general managers. Like, what's up with the team? Like, yeah, you know, if we make it to the playoffs, real good. It's real good if we make it to the playoffs. Like, damn, that's it with the team? Like, yeah, you know, if we make it to the playoffs, real good. It's real good to make it to the playoffs. Like, damn, that's it? Yeah, playoffs.

Just focus on getting to the playoffs. Like, damn. I was in the graveyard, so... Man, I would have hit you. You know what it feels like? You know what it feels like to be in the graveyard when you out there and you ain't playing for nothing? Not a chance.

I ain't had them conversations, because you can't tell me not to go out and. At what point do you do you? Realize this I mean, I'm sure do you know in training camp or maybe is there optimism at least like first couple games? Everyone starts off the season with hope. Yeah, we start with as the game start going on Because they in training your training in the summer and training camp everybody looks like a champion. Yeah, oh shit We got a chance. Oh boy. You look good. And then usually that first game of the season Reality check See trade deadline that you know the team

Is the first month first day Listen if you was a bad team last year and you start off on to what? Well, let me phrase that if you in the lottery You know what the season is finna be. Mm-hmm So you just call it whatever you just picked up unless unless you're the boss of Celtics and you made a trade three years ago And you got this lottery pick this year or some shit like that Other than that, if you if you had a top eight nine pick in the previous draft Nine having time that 10-0 team will be shit Spurs

Detroit they know what it is. Yeah, absolutely. Right? We just gonna keep you just go out and play your Houston Everybody go play just go play y'all even though the shit ain't crazy. They bought some people just go play Charlotte Orlando, they know they're not making the playoffs, man. Orlando was the number one team in the East before they got thwarted by the Lakers. That's what I said. Everybody started off at Holton. A week, two weeks later. Minnesota. Two weeks later?

Nah, Minnesota. Nah, Minnesota, then they can make the playoffs. Minnesota, then they can make the playoffs. That's it. That's all. They want to make the playoffs. Hey, I'm going to say this. Did they make the playoffs last year? It's early in the season, but Timberwolves get the right matchup in's all. They want to make playoffs. Hey, I'm going to say this. Did they make playoffs last year?

It's early in the season, but Timberwolves get the right matchup in the playoffs, somebody might be in trouble. Huh? Him? That's Cap. They going to be in trouble. That's Cap. They make the playoffs, they going to be in trouble.

Minnesota. I'm talking about somebody going to be in trouble. Dallas? Yeah. Yeah. Dallas? So, man, as soon as All- Weekend is over, we're going to... That roster ain't built to make...

I'm tanking. Tanking. If you're Dallas, I got two... They got Luka. I got Luka, Kyrie, and then I can get a lottery? You got one, Derek Lightly. You can't go 7-8 with the Mavs. I don't want to go 7-8 with the Mavs.

Because you're not going to win shit, so what's the point? What you mean? You got a chance. They're not winning. 7-8? Play you in game? No. Just to what's the point? What you mean? You got a chance. They're not winning. Seven, eight, play you in game? No. Just to get in the playoffs, give us hope?

If he can get a lottery pick with Luka and Kyrie right now, we looking good. What does that lottery pick looking like? Coming in to replace Luka? No. Replace Luka. Compliment. Man, Luka's on this team to 20, 30, 35. But he don't need no rookie.

He don't need no rookie come in and help him He needs a good rookie And all that Lucas 22 23 years old he needed that he don't need to tank to try to get somebody in to help him You need to make a playoff run so somebody can trust that they can make it to the playoffs. Oh Trust build the truck Clippers needed clay the playoffs. Ooh. Trust. Build the trust. Clippers needed Clay. I had another one. Huh?

No, instead of James, they outed him. Oh, they needed? Instead of James, Clay. Well, Gil, there is a free agency coming up next summer,

so do not be surprised if some moves are made. Clay need to go to Miami. Let's run up on Steve Ballmer, can't you? I'm with you, all right? I'm not going to Stanford it. It wasn't him. Clay in Denver?

Ooh. He seen something. Damn. Stop. Stop playing, dawg. I'm just saying, listen, hey, hey, look, them 80s play on the bench, had to like, hey, girl. I was like, he keeps sticking it in their head.

Hey, man. You know they was sorry.h. Oh, man. You didn't know they was sorry. Leave them alone, man. No, I'm just saying. Yo, do people, like, people reaching out to me to come talk on shows, do they not realize, like, I'm getting paid for this shit? Talking about it going for free?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They be doing that. They be doing it. They be doing it. They realize, like, I'm getting, like, actual, like, green monies. Hey. Every episode. Shout out toies. Hey. Every episode.

Shout out to people. Hey, every episode. Shout out to Underdog Fantasy. And on that note, this has been a Halloween edition of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. What's up, bro? We'll see y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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