Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To The Warriors' BIG Win & Alijah Arenas' Decision

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

Alijah Arenas Gives Gil's Arena His College Decision as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew invites NBA Phenom Alijah Arenas back into the arena to announce where he will be playing his college hoops next season, choosing between Arizona, USC, Kentucky, Kansas and Louisville. They break down what went into this monumental decision and give the young hooper advice as he takes his career to the next level. Next, they shift over to cover all things that went down in the NBA last night starting with Adam Silver announcing that the NBA is considering switching to 10 minute quarters and leading a discussion on how that would change the game before reacting to Victor Wembanyama going dark and showing aggression for the first time in his NBA Career by charging Ivica Zubac in the Spurs loss to the Los Angeles Clippers. The Gil's Arena Crew then break down the Golden State Warriors HUGE Win over the Oklahoma City Thunder and debate if this win proves the team doesn't need to make a move for someone like Jimmy Butler before reacting to another 50 burger from Shai Gilgeous Alexander, cementing the All Star PG as the favorite for NBA MVP. Finally, No Chill Gil and the GA Crew react to Draymond Green calling out Karl Anthony Town's poor defense on Nikola Jokic in the New York Knicks win over The Denver Nuggets and debate if the Knicks & KAT aren't getting enough respect this season. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!!  Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Gilbert Arenas, Rashad McCants Sheryl Swoopes, Brandon Jennings & Alijah Arenas Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/  Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena USE Code GIL for $20 off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to https://ruffgreens.com/discount/gil & use Promo code GIL SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:03 The Are All Turnovers Bad Debate Continues 0:02:22 Intro 0:09:07 Adam Silver Considering 10min Quarters 0:17:43 Jersey Sales Numbers In The NBA 0:42:47 Wemby Gets ANGRY!! 0:54:00 Face of The League Debate Continues 1:00:33 Wemby Wants A Fair Whistle 1:05:46 Clippers Are Finally Healthy 1:16:20 Alijah Arenas' College Decision 1:22:19 Draymond Calls Out KAT 1:43:30 Warriors' BIG Win Over OKC 2:06:24 SGA Drops 50 Again 2:17:00 Mostly Fans 2:31:20 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We can agree on something. No, we can't. No, no, no, no. A bad shot is not a turnover. No. A bad shot and you don't get the rebound, that is a turnover. We can agree on something. No, we can't. No, no, no, no. A bad shot is not a turnover. No. A bad shot and you don't get the rebound, that's a turnover. I mean, it might as well be a turnover. Thank you for him.

Bad shot can go in. Exactly. No, it did not. A bad shot can go in. A bad shot can go in. Bad shot maker. I don't know what the hell that means. Bad shot maker.

Bad shot maker. Yeah, you got to be a bad shot maker. Bad shot for you losing the game. Could. There's a whole lot of things that can lead to you losing the game. But a bad shot's a bad shot. Dribbling off your foot and maybe taking a bad shot, two different things.

Swag your- A heat check. Might as well be. What is a heat check, though? Swag your brain. Y'all weren't here. A heat check is a bad shot. No.

No. There you go. That's what it's called. No, no. It's not a turnover. No, that's not. No. See, no, that's not.

A heat check is not a bad shot. It's not a turnover. It's not a bad shot, though. Actually, it's not a bad shot. It's not a bad shot. If I just made one. And it's not a turnover.. It's not a turnover. It's not a bad shot, though. Actually, it's not a bad shot. It's not a bad shot. It's not a bad shot. Because I just made one. And it's not a turnover. Because if I just made two, everybody in the gym know I'm shooting it again.

Yeah. It's not a good turnover. But it is a bad shot. All you hear is, aww, if you miss. It can be. It can be. It can be. It can be.

But it's not considered one because of the momentum. I don't know. Swaggy, Brandon, y'all weren't here yesterday. Are all turnovers bad? Is there such a thing as a... No, I don't agree with that. Well, what's a good turnover?

A good turnover is... It's not your fault. It's not a good turnover. If I pass it to a big and he drop it on his own, that's his fault. But is it your fault for not knowing the personnel? And knowing not to give the people the ball? But he normally catches, though. He says he normally catches.

Can I ask you a question? Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Is it a turnover? You're not talking about Kwame Brown, like, you know, Gil passing to Kwame. Oh, don't do that. And he missed it. Is it a turnover?

I don't know beef. I know that's what you wanted to say, but if you pass it to... It's 2025, brother. No beef? No beef in 2025? Brother, I done moved on, man. Yeah. I'm in the penthouse. You feel me? It's 2025, brother. No beef? No beef in 2025? Brother, I done moved on, man.

I'm in the penthouse. You feel me? I don't even know why I kept going down to the basement. I just wanted to see what was down there. He's married now. I'm not calling the basement. I'm not calling him to be here. I'm calling where I was. He's married now.

He's married now. I'm married now. I said I'm going down to the basement, the basement floor. Who is in the basement? That's another micrometer. Gil, technically, you come down to the basement, the basement floor. Who is in the basement? That's none of my concern. Gil, technically, you come down to the basement every day. I'm at the penthouse. You come down to the basement every day to witness greatness.

Technically, this is the first floor. Oh. You know what I mean? California, we ain't got basements. We don't got basements. That's all East Coast, you know what I mean? First level. Okay, okay, okay.

Is it a turnover? No. I'm not in my head. So, in the stat book, what know what I mean? First level. OK, OK, OK. Is it a turnover? No. What is it? I'm not in my head. So in the stat book, what do they call it? A turnover. But it is. It's a turnover, but you can be in film.

You can be like, yo, I can accept this turnover because you're aggressive. I like that we came down, we tried to make something happen. Yep. Like, if you're not turning over the ball, you're not being aggressive. So you have to be. Yo, Yo, Yo, Yo, We Check has ended up a turnover.

How does that happen? You're trying to go off of... You made three, then you're trying to do some shit and hit your foot. That's a turnover. That's a turnover. Shoot it and it comes off your hand like this. That's a turnover too. Listen, but at the end of the day...

If you get blocked, that's a turnover. But at the end of the day, when the game's over... So how does that... And the coach has his stat sheet. All it says is turnover is 20. That's it. The coach is going to say, y'all, we got to stop turning the ball over that much. Okay. Period.

He's not going to look at the 20 and say, well, out of the 20, three of them were good turnovers. It's okay. So what if we come back the next game and it's 12? So we're still going to point out these 12 or we're just going to be like, well, there's still turnovers. No, you come back the next day, it's 12. He's going to say we did a better job of keeping be like, well, there's still turnovers. No, you come back the next day, it's 12, he's going to say we did a better job of keeping our turnovers down. But we want to stay under 15.

But there is a certain thing as aggressive turnovers and passive turnovers. Like, nonchalant turn them all over. Like, you got a guard that jumps in the air and he just throws it. We already know that, though. We're not debating that there's different styles of turnovers. We're just saying that they all turn over.

I mean, turnovers are turnovers. The Stars turnovers is nothing. But I can accept some turnovers. All right, if I'm a point guard, right, I'm a point guard. The only road player that can play for turnovers. I'm about to throw the entry pass for the setup, right, to the big. Really? Yes.

The dude steal the ball. It's a turnover, right? For the guard, yeah. Right. Is it a bad pass or is it a bad placement for the big trying to get the ball? Is he in position? We don't care. It don't matter.

Guess what? It's a turnover. No, but what if it's like one of these, yo, you should have went back door and you stopped. And then, like, I can accept that because it's like, all right, they... It's bad communication. No. No. What?

What is the one rule when your back door continue to back Getting ready to back door and I throw it and you stop it'll come back I get the turnover, but you already know you can blame. Yeah. Yeah, so and I can go next one Yeah, so, you know, I got that fault for that one But I get the turnovers coming to me but film session, everybody knows that's your fault. It's still miscommunication. No. There's no miscommunication ever. It's universal.

It's understood. It's understood that when you start going back door, you keep going. Period. It's universal. Ain't none of that. We ain't playing tag. We ain't playing tag. There you go. With a universal rule, avoid back door. Yeah,. Ah! There you go. Okay.

But I was like, nothing is. It's a turnover. With the universal rule of going back door. Yeah, regardless. But if you're a basketball player and he cheat the back door and I'm going to, I can adjust. If you see me not there, you throw the ball. It's a turnover. No, but you faked me out.

It's miscommunication. You thought I was going to be there. I wasn't. You faked me out. Yeah, I know. I'm supposed to be there, but I wasn't. You faked me out. Look. I'm supposed to be there, but I wasn't. You faked me out. Look, I'm supposed to be there, but I wasn't. But don't throw it there when no one's there.

But it's your man. I look at it. You already committed. But I'm saying you already committed. Don't throw it. And then stop. Don't throw it. No.

It's too late. If it's too late, then that's a turnover if I throw it too late. Guess where the back door goes. I can throw it or not throw it. Back door. Ah! He wouldn't open. I'm going to always play the safety route. You ain't never

open on the back door, bro. Ever. Ever. That could be it. It's a risky pass. It's a risky pass. Because guess what? I'm never going to have it. I just know some turnovers I can accept. If you're aggressive, like, I'm never going to have a turnover. Damn, at least you're trying.

I have that turnover. That might keep you in the game, too, though. Never going to have a turnover. Damn, at least you're trying. I'm never going to have that turnover. I can accept that. That might keep you in the game, too, though. I'm never going to have that turnover. Keep you in the game. If Russell Russell were coming down and he... Yeah, I can accept that. It's a whole new world.

Hey, man, I can accept that. I can accept... I can accept, like, Russell Wentworth's turnover. Steve Nash. True. Steve Nash. Oh, yeah, I love Steve Nash. Magic.

I can accept their turnovers, how they play the game. Um, Steve Nash. Oh, yeah, I love Steve Nash. I can accept their turnovers, how they play the game. The way you play the game, you're going to have 25 assists. If it affects us winning and losing the game, I'm going to change the way you play. Well, speaking of us winning, welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Let's go. Whoa, whoa! As always, we got the legend, Gilbert Arenas, here with us. What's up with you, Gil?

We got NBA champion of the world, swaggy, pink Nick Young back up in here. Let's go. I'm trying to get something going. Hey, man, where my shit at? Put some weight on it. Thank you. We got Freddie. No, he got you, too.

He got you, too. I got to get me up. That's the stone card. Wait on it. Thank you. And a dove. We got Freddy. No, he gave you two. He gave you two. What is that? I got to get me a. Yeah, they're going to come in and then crash out. That's what they need. Coming in and crashing out.

Can you smell what the rot? No. That is a different wrestler. That is another wrestler. No. After I finished saying it, I knew the ending of it. But bitch, you should never say it. It's a turnover.

That's a turnover. Steve Cold to go. That's a turnover. Steve Cold. Steve Cold. Stone Cold. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got four-time WNBA champion of the world, Cheryl Swope. Back in here.

Cheryl, they wanted you to be closer to greatness, so they moved us closer together. I know. You can help me. You can help me thwart all of them in here. They want me to help you

read the ads. Okay. Ooh, you seen that? Yeah. No. You can help me. They want me to help you read the ads. OK. Ooh, you seen that? Yeah. No, I'm just playing. I'm just playing. I'm just playing. You got the UCLA hoodie on today.

See y'all out there, see you, Wade. I will get another opportunity today. We'll see if I can get it back. You went to UCLA, y'all. You went to Arizona. What? They understand. You went to Arizona. What? I understand. They understand. I went to Arizona.

Look at your big-ass words. When did you UCLA? What's all these words? You got into it. I was a GPA booster on the roster, but representing the trenches, the man on the cemetery, Larry, Rashad McCance is in the building. You have reset the count, but it is still going. Still have not gotten the answer to the questions that you wanted to know.

But you reset it. Represent tough crowd, tough crowd university. Mr. B Brandon Jennings. Okay it's gonna be a hostile day today. Yeah I love it. I need a song. I'm waiting for mine, too. You wait for yours, too. Okay. I need one. I'm with the Rockies. Yeah. That's what he was saying.

Wakanda. He was. He was over there. Hitting the rock on it. Hey. So for all the fans out there, we still have two viewing options for you, our traditional version and mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch.

Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. After the Knicks beat the Nuggets, Jokic said New York is a top five candidate to win the chip. Is the reigning MVP spitting or tripping? McDonald's All-American Elijah Arenas will join the show to tell us where he plans to play college basketball next season. If he does not say UCLA is going to be a situation here, Gil,

I know where the blickies are at. Is that why you wore that? Is that why you wore that? He got me. He's 6'8". I was so happy. He was so happy the other day. He's 6'4", man.

Because I said, man, hell no. We're trying to sell shoes. Hey, he's 6'4", man. That nigga taller than me. He trying to sell shoes. He's 6'4", man. Because I said, man, hell no. We're trying to sell shoes. Hey, he's six-fold, man. Come on. That nigga taller than me. He trying to sell shoes. He's six-fold, man. He was jumping.

I was high, bruh. Oh, I know. It's like when you go to, you be like six-fold, then you go to measurement, and four more inches. You know? Four more inches, girl. I'm like, damn. Shout out, Rose Parks.

And Wimby thinks he doesn't get a fair whistle. What does a second-year burgeoning superstar need to do to get the respect of NBA officials? He need to park it? Oh, whoa. He need to move around? Uh-oh. But before we get into all that, the best app for your big game party is on your phone. That's right.

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Y'all got anything? Facts. Nothing to say about that Underdog read? Okay. No, you did that. You did that, yeah. It's early in the show. You know that one.

It's early in the show. You've been doing that for two years now. It's early in the show. It's early in the show. Shout out Under underdog. As for tonight, Rashad has some picks up in his partner pack on the underdog app. Let us take a look. Ooh.

So, Rashad, you have Cavs number one option, Donovan Mitchell, lower 25 points, taking on the Hawks. Trey Young, higher 5.5 points, rebound and assist in the first five minutes of the game. I've been liking that one for some reason. higher 5.5 points, rebound and assist in the first five minutes of the game. I mean, I'm liking that one for some reason. Walker Kessler, higher double-double. You think he's going to have a double-double tonight against the Timberwolves? Ja Morant, lower 22.5 points.

Grizzlies taking on the Rockets. Ja, I see you. Hold on. I just want to let you know I respect you. 24.83 times your bread. That that is a man who really coming to work Yeah, John trying to get it done through get to it. Give your money. Don't make money. John never come through for me Uh-huh. How's everybody feel about the job? It's a great Again and then I'm going to be after him. This is a good game for him.

There's a lot of Houston boys out there ready for that. Everybody active? Oh, he coming. Ja? And they fighting for like two and three, right? I think it's going to be more than 22. Against the Rockets? Put him on them, Dylan Brooks on them.

Then they got more out there running around. He coming on? Yeah, he did do it. He came out and. Yeah, he did do good games. He came out and killed Boston. I think Donovan Mitchell over 25. But y'all don't have a good game tonight. It's Atlanta. There's going to be blowouts.

They got some defenders over there, some lanky defenders. All right. Y'all rolling? No. Team game. I'm rolling with that. OK. I don't know about Walker.

He didn't have a double-double the last four games, I think. So, but that means this one's gonna come down, you know? Hey, y'all got screen savers on your phone? Yeah. What's yours? Picture of a tough crowd and some dogs. What's yours? You about to talk about me?

AI generated. AI generated, but it's you, though, right? No. No? Screen saver? I might be a grandma, so I got my... Hey, I generated yeah, yeah generated, but it's you though, right? No, no screensaver I'm gonna be a grandma so I got my Baby Jackson arrived in July 20 25 What's yours? Okay, Nick was yours I got a gas family I'm married now. I'm married now. OK. Nichols Schurz. Oh, he's got the family.

Ugly ass family. Right. You hating on my family? You have a beautiful family. No, no, no. That's a beautiful family. That's a beautiful family. Yeah, that's some things you just can't say.

He's a hater. That's really sarcastic. That's just some things you just can't say. He's saying it. Look at this. No, no, listen. He's got a beautiful family. You're still a caca without his glasses on.

No, he's not. No, he's not. No, he's not. No,, he not. No, he not. No, he not. No, he not. The shit over with. He wore them for five years, so they good now. He outgrew them.

Gil, no, because for a family picture, like... Now, you keep talking about my son, motherfucker. No, I get it. But he needs glasses. He can't see. I can't wait till he get over to the side. No, no, no. He saw one.

He made it... Ain't nothing cross-eyed about my goddamn son. Keep talking about my son. He made it see you. That motherfucker just... All right, good one. I'm on my goddamn If you tap it it come back Okay. I know the photographer was like, hey, hey, you too. You too. You too. Go, go, go, go, go. God, motherfucker, it's like a switch. You gotta hit a click back there.

You gotta press a button, that motherfucker will pop back. I looked over. Like Forrest Williker. Oh my God. No. You got the Forrest Williker. He was looking at it like this. He was looking at it like this, but his son was looking at me.

I was like, how's he doing? Crazy. Motherfucker, 3D. Motherfucker, 4D. Oh my God was like, how's he doing? Crazy. Motherfucker. 3D? Right? Motherfucker. 4D.

Oh my god. Hey. Char, we asked the chat if they're riding or fading with your pick for tonight. Sad to report that 58% of the fans are not riding with you tonight. But they don't like to make money. You got to be aggressive when you use an underdog.

We'll see. Yeah. More bread for you. You're not rolling with 86%. That sounds like you. This is the dumbest moment. That is stupid. I love, I love, I love.

Dumb. 86%. You're not rolling with 86%. How much more certain can you be? Like, what the fuck is going on? 86 is 86. And as always, we do Mostly Fans. At the end of every show, if you drop a good question in the chat with your underdog

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and fans complaining about the quality of the product, we've heard lots of different people throwing out ideas on how to fix it. Well, Commissioner Adam Silver floated out an interesting idea yesterday while on the Dan Patrick Show. As we get more involved in global basketball, the NBA is the only league that plays 48 minutes. And I would be, I am a fan of four 10-minute quarters. I'm not sure that many others are. I mean, putting aside what it means for records and things like that,

I think that a two-hour format for a game is more consistent with sort of modern television habits. I don't think people in arenas aren't asking us to shorten the game, but I think as a television program, being two hours that's Olympic basketball is two hours, you know, college basketball courses. Yeah, but if you like it, I'd say it has kind of a little bit of a push there. Yeah, but it's such a dramatic change to the game. I mean, I think something like that would have to be talked more about over time. So Adam Silver said he would prefer shifting away from four 12-minute quarters

to four 10-minute quarters. Do you like Adam Silver's idea of playing 10-minute quarters? How long is his contract? Forever. Man. He's thinking too much. You trying to do too much now.

I mean, for me, I mean, that's how I started my career. So... Started your career at what? But everything supposed to change when you get to the professional level. I started my career playing 40 minutes, like 10 minutes. Oh, 10. Like college? Yeah, like how he want, but 10 minutes,

like how he wanted to, like it was... Everything changes, though. Even like from the ball, like when you get to the NBA, it's supposed to be different from everything else, I feel like. Once you become a professional. Yeah, when you become a professional. But my thing is they're trying to change everything already. So to me, it's just like, okay, well, they're changing the way you can win MVP.

They're changing this. They're changing. They're trying to keep it. They're just changing the way the All-Star is already. They're changing. They're trying to keep it. They're just changing. The way the All-Star is already in season three. Everything is changing. So it's like, bring David Stern back. You can't. Shut up.

David Stern got a son or something? Because ever since Adam Silver took over, this shit been in the dump. If he can be fired, he can let him be fired. So Adam Silver finalizing a contract extension that'll keep him in this position until at least 2030, according to ESPN. Damn. He ain't going nowhere, man.

He made this game so global, man, that he ain't going nowhere. He did a lot of good, but he thinking too much. He ain't do shit. He thinking too much. He ain't trying to put his stamp on it. He did not do shit. Adam, who didn't do anything? Adam Silver didn't do anything?

Listen, you're supposed to take the book you what the book say pass the book alone No, that's the take the book take the book grow start taking pages off the book. What's going on in life? Now you looking at the book Like what is he in the system? This ain't the same game we play Ten minutes. Oh, I do like the NC. Shorten season, 65 games. What the hell? Huh? First people are saying it's too many games. You got to grow with the time.

You got to grow with what's going on in life. Positionless? Huh? What? You got to grow with what's going on in life. I think about being stuck in this. Is it 19? Is it 18?

You have to grow with what's going on. What are we doing? I'm not saying about the time, but just in general, you have to grow with what's going on. And that's the problem with what's going on. That's the thing. He's growing. The people who's watching, they're not growing.

They don't get what's coming. They don't understand. They don't want that. This is not cable anymore. They don't want it. Right? Viewership is not where y'all think it is. They don't want it.

You don't know that. Viewership is here. I can't. There's no cable. I'm on my phone. I don't got cable. They don't got cable. Nobody got cable no more. Nobody gives two shits about the cable contract. He's thinking about how you're watching the game on your phone.

Yes, yes. He's looking at all the metrics. I read the show. Them contracts is going up. I can say if the contracts was going down because it's TV money... The TV took a chance on that investment, and it is a bad investment Listen they spent all that money so that they can get bigger contracts and the viewership is down where where's the real show down there?

On regular cable TV viewers everybody But the TV viewership is down across the board for everything everybody. This is not TV no more No one fuck about TV. I don't watch this shit on you. Kendrick said turn not TV no more! No one gives a fuck about TV! You can watch this shit on YouTube. Kendrick said turn the TV off. Somebody doing games on Netflix. Turn the TV off? Prime! Everything on Prime.

Everything is down. Prime. On TV. Everything is down everywhere. Because TV is everywhere. Nobody wants to keep going to different... Everywhere! Except regular cable.

Like we couldn't watch the game the other night. It was blacked out because it was on some other platform. You can only watch it over here. It's on YouTube. Then you gotta go over here. Exactly. So if I don't got this, I'm not watching the game tonight. Exactly. So I'm not watching the game. I'm not watch the game the other night. It was blacked out because it was on some other platform. You can only watch it over here. Of course. It's on YouTube.

Then you got to go over here. Exactly. So if I don't got this, I'm not watching the game tonight. Exactly. I'm not watching the game tonight. That was the whole problem. Y'all separated subscriptions of all platforms. So now you're not making money because we're deciding not to watch the game

because we don't have that platform. We're just watching the game, but we're just not paying to watch the game. I'm following the game on the Internet. Literally, like, all right, I ain't got the game, man. I'm just going to check the game over here. And then I'll check the game on Instagram. But you can actually watch it. Where else are you going to watch it, though?

You got to subscribe, bro. Right. So if it's not there, where else are you going to on the Internet? I don't want to follow the game. He just explained it and didn't even know it. Basketball bag. Listen to Einstein prove some shit again. Y'all had the same t-shirt on yesterday.

Back in the 90s. That was cute too. CBS was free, right? Yep. TNT was free, right? TNT was... What is he talking about? Cable TV.

When you had... None of that shit was free. Nah, CBS... None of that shit was free. Free Bro regular cable The stories were pretty long. Regular cable, bro. Regular cable or basketball gloves. You had to steal the cable. It was free. If you wanted TNT and all that other shit, you had to steal the cable. Even the channel, even if you did. If I called my dad, I called my dad. You had to steal the TV.

I called my dad. No, don't. Can you please say that? Because he was a little kid. Can you say it out loud? It was the NBA on NBC. NBA on NBC. Free.

Inside stuff. OK. Inside stuff. It was free. Inside stuff. You said channel three. So the world watched it because it was free. Today

it's not free. So you are tracking TV ratings. It's down. Because the NBA don't have free shit no more. You gotta pay for it. But the TV ratings don't calculate free shit no more. You got to pay for it. But the TV ratings don't calculate streams.

But it is funny, on Christmas, they used stream voting, I mean stream views with the NFL versus NBA TV views. But the NFL games were on Netflix, so they had to. Yeah. What was the NBA stream views? They didn't add those. Legal or illegal? No, what I'm saying is they didn't add those when they wanted to do what they're doing.

That's a platform. That's a streaming service. But you counted it against regular TV. Where was the streaming? Where was the 500 million people that watched the Laker game? They were in China. You said something very interesting. You said

we went from free TV to now you got to pay for it. Right? And then we went from viewership was up to now it's down. Why would it be down? Because you got to pay for it, right? Because it's no longer what? Free.

Okay, so that would mean that viewership is down, right? For a reason. Wait, wait, hold on. Pay for it on what? See, I let him cook. Hold on. See, I let him cook. I let him. He got to interject. He got to interject.

Talk to me. Why are you talking to him? I'm we don't have inform I'm informing him. He don't know the answer sway. You don't know So I do so I do So look ask the question to me the reason why the reason why. The reason why. They used to use it for free, and now it costs because they got to pay the players more. Right? So if viewership is down,

that means some people don't want to pay. Like I just said, I'm not paying over there, and I got this. I watch these games, and if I can't watch this game, I'm not going to watch this game. If millions of people are doing the same thing and they're making the same decision, that would mean

viewership is down because it ain't free no more. One, and it's costing us on multiple platforms. Fuck that. Go ahead. You said it's what? On what? You just said it. Say that ending again. Multiple platforms.

Multiple platforms. That's a streaming service, right? Is that a streaming service? Yeah. A platform is a streaming service. No, it's not. What is a platform? A streaming service is a streaming service.

Okay, so what is a platform? It could be anything. It could be a website. Huh? Website? Yeah. That's not a streaming service. So a website is not cable TV, right? No. So that means they can't track that. Okay, So a website is not cable TV, right? No.

So that means they can't track that. Okay, a streaming service is not cable TV, right? So they can't track that. They can't track streaming. No, they do not track streaming service, sir. They're only tracking cable TV. So how do Netflix get their budgets if they're not tracking streaming? Netflix is Netflix. They're a streaming

service. Yes. Just like Amazon. Amazon tracks their streaming. Amazon tracks their You have to have analytics and data to get money from investors and to get content put on your, yeah you have to track the data. Streaming does track. You have to track it. Just

like on Spotify. You track downloads. You can track all of it. And you can track where it's coming from. Exactly. Demographics. That's why they're saying the numbers are low because they've tracked it already. Whoa! What is Nelson again? Nelson's a TV ratings. TV ratings.

Nelson's TV ratings, sir. If you listen to the commissioner, he says TV ratings are down., streaming views are up. The NBA has the best streaming views out of all sports. All of the people overseas, China, France, everybody, when the game is starting starting they're not watching our cable TV they gotta use streaming platforms Nelson

what do they do again? they track TV because overseas when Wimby's playing wee wee they don't have American cable so when you so commissioner when you're talking to these companies you're taking all these streaming numbers,

and that's how you're getting these big-ass contracts. But Nelson hasn't updated. It's Nelson who actually did it. Because if you think Nelson has updated, can you tell me the NFL's Christmas ratings? Not Netflix. Christmas ratings. See, they gave you Netflix.

It was only not Netflix. Christmas ratings. See, they gave you Netflix. It was only on Netflix. But just to put it out there, too. It was a trick question. Netflix also doesn't typically give their numbers. I wanted to see what he was going to say. Where's his body bag? Is there a place like Neeson, like Nielsen, that tracks streaming? Well, streamers can track their own numbers

because they literally can monitor how many people are on the platform, but Netflix, Amazon, these places traditionally don't give that information out because they secret it. Mmm. Yeah. Mmm.

Mmm. Don't give out that information. Mm-hmm. Huh. So if the numbers were down, would we know? No. What, you think they would give up that information?

I don't think the numbers were down. If the numbers were down, would we know? No. What, you think they would give up? I don't think the numbers were down. If the numbers were down, would we know? I don't think it's down. Would we know? No. We would never know. If the numbers is down, they paying for it. But what we do know is that the money is up.

Don't have $80 billion TV. I'm selling something, right? I'm going in there selling something. You think I pulled 500 million people out of thin air Hey, you got that number? Yeah, and now you got to pay for that now you're in the red now Right. So you sense because the TV cuz regular just regular TV and everything else is down. I ain't said nothing like that Only try what are you saying? I don't got cable. I ain't saying nothing like that. They're only tracking views. So what are you saying? They're tracking views.

TV views is TV views. So what did you say? I ain't gonna give you the answer. You won't. No, I know, but what is he saying? Because he's saying the numbers are down because people aren't watching TV. But the stream is up. I'm saying the numbers are up.

The stream is up. So... But they're not calculating our streaming numbers on Nelson's platform. They're not using those. But wouldn't the numbers be up if you could watch the game in many different... But what I'm saying... Are the numbers down for the All-Star game?

They're not using those. I'm sure. They're not using those part of the argument. If those two things are really, really bad and we watching everything that lead up to that that's really, really bad, you think we would really watch it? No, no, no. You said the All-Star was what? No, All-Star numberstar numbers down and contest down.

Uh-oh. Ah. Do it, Gil. I mean, I guess he keeps forgetting. If Gil don't got proof, I'm not listening to nothing he's saying. Do you know why I'm not doing that with Gil? Let me tell y'all something. Let me tell y'all what I was sent by a random fan sent me this, man.

And it's so weird that this dude did this yesterday in real time. We was talking about Dalton Connect, and he was trying to tell us how many single-digit games Dalton Connect had in real time. And then he left out all the double-digit numbers that Dalton Connect had. In the middle of a heated debate we have back and forth, he tried to use data.

He pulled out his phone and named all the single-digit games Don't Connect had and said, this is why he's this, this is why. Yeah. And he left out all the double-digit games. No, no, no, no. The point was this.

He has bad games, but you don't say nothing about them. That was the point. You wait till one person has a bad game. We can read off Bronny's, all the games he played that everybody ignored. So what I did is the same thing you do. You wait till someone has a bad game, we can read off Bronny's, all the games he played that everybody ignored. So what I did is the same thing you do. You wait till someone has a bad game and then you want to pass it.

That's true. That's true. So I said, okay, this is a seasoned guy. That is true. He's been in the season for, you know, 30-something games and then I named 20-something bad games. You named all his bad games. 20-something bad games and no one said nothing. You named all his bad games.

That's true. That is true. 20-something bad games and you don't say nothing. So obviously, a 23-year-old can have a bad game and no one says anything about it because it's basketball. That was the point. No, it's because you have some tie to them for some reason because everyone has bad games. Okay, of course. But this guy had five straight good games.

You didn't name none of them. No. No, because it don't fit your point. He was talking about bad games. It don't fit your point. When it don't fit your point, that means you're going to lie to make everyone believe you. Did you name the five good games?

Could you put it up? Could you put it up on the table? Did you name the five good games Ronnie had? Exactly. Did he have? He's averaging.3 a game. No, he's averaging 17 points. I ain't talking about the G League.

Of course you are. We're talking about the NBA. You were talking about the G League when he played bad? No, he wasn't. Yes, you were. No, he wasn't. Yes, you were. Never.

We're talking about Don't Connect and Bronny James. Don't Connect is my first game in the G League. You did bash him. No, I didn't. I never bashed Bronny at all. Ever. Ever. I'm not sure how a conversation about 10 quarters

Now he won't the people to think that I bad Ronnie because I don't have a napkin Nah, I think and I think right my motherfucking mouth every word. We bring up these more back. I don't care about none of that I don't care about none of that Yeah, come on man lion lion lion lion pants on fire Didn't he just say it? He's fussy! Didn't he just say, man, I don't fucking fuck with the chat, dude. I'm like, damn, this is your chat, and you done turned on the chat already? Let's keep this moving. We can do a whole show. We can do a whole show on that.

Ten Minute Quarters, viewership issues. Adam Silver saying he's a fan of Ten Minute Quarters. He don't think a lot of other people are. So here's my question. So does he think by switching it to Ten Minute Quarters, it's going to change the viewership? I think it's a condensed viewership format right now. We can get into a two-hour window instead of a 2 and 1 half, 2 45, which it is currently. But you also got to acknowledge, now if it shifts to 10 minutes,

how does that impact the rotations, guys on the bench, people's bread? Now does it become more star driven? Do you phase out role players? No, I don't think so. They said it was 72 games. I was like, what was that last year? 2021, I think. That was the year after COVID. Oh, good.

I'm pretty sure MJ, Kareem, now LeBron. They'd be happy? I know they are happy if this happens. Because there's no way you're going to touch their legacy. With a 72-game season, with 10 minutes a quarter.

And that's the only problem I hate with rule changes. It was the same reason that the new ball got rejected back in 2006. It's because they didn't like the idea. It was Kobe, Steve, and Ash. They didn't like the idea that this helps them shoot and it gives them an advantage over the past. Right? And it's kind of the same thing now.

It's like, well, history, are you trying to cement history? Right? Right? Right? Because these guys did it here. Like, there's no way none of us can catch it. There's probably no one born right now that's going to catch LeBron's, whatever he's doing. Right?

That's not going to be caught. If you shorten the time, it's impossible. How do you think it catches? You've got to let history be history. You said if you shorten the game. Shorten the game. Either way, shorten the games or shorten the time. It takes like 48 minutes, 48 minutes a game,

82 games a year for 20-something years is how this record got set and broken. It got set by Kareem, broken by LeBron. Once you change any of that, you're handicapped in the future. What about the ABA? How do you think those guys feel? Their records didn't get... Yeah.

I mean, it changed then. But the ABA is the reason that a lot of the stuff that's been implemented in the NBA is the way it is, though. They made the game more entertaining, faster-paced. Didn't they just update... But when Julius Urban records... Didn't they just update... They updated... No, they didn't. That was baseball Urban records me they just update that they updated a no they did that was No me with the Negro League

But this style of play you don't think they could catch it with more threes They didn't have a three-point line back. I think they play fast Well, I'm talking about the guys before they was a man. Oh man. They got a three-point line We never must say the three-point line change to the 50s and the 60s. They was playing faster old man. They got a three-point line. We didn't have a three-point line. I'm going to say the three-point line changed, too. The 50s and the 60s, they was playing faster than today's game. They didn't have no three-point line. They was averaging 30. Even they took the three-point line out in the 90s, right? But they shortened it.

Yeah, they shortened it. You got to be like you. For certain players. I just want to take 10 minutes off, put a four-pointer in. I don't know what the fuck you do to try to. So, brings me to my next question. Does that really make people want

to watch the game or not? On TV? No. Yeah. So there's a bigger problem than the quarters and the amount of games that they're playing. The real conversation is

what is the problem and fix that problem. Right. Right? So is it style of play? Is it laziness? Right. It's the players. If it's too many threes, if that's like, what is the actual pinpoint complaint?

Right? Because once you figure out what we're complaining about, then you just attack that. Right? Because once you figure out what we're complaining about, then you just attack that. Right, because fans aren't saying, I'm not watching because they're playing 12-minute quarters. Nobody said that, yeah. Right. I'm not watching because they're playing too many games. So there's another problem

that needs to be addressed and fixed besides... The media? Like, they always talking negative, like, about the NBA and All-Star weekend, about the style of play. Could be that, too. Because they're- The development? First of all, they're fed the information to say anyway.

Yeah. Yeah. Right? You're right. You're fed the information. Yeah, you know, numbers is down. Could it be the NBA don't have, like, a legit star after LeBron coming? Like after Jordan, you had Kobe. Then you get LeBron.

But once LeBron leaves, who's going to be like that legit star, kids? Could it be the whole overall engaged players? That's what I'm saying. Is it just because it's a bunch of good players? Yeah. I think you need a star. Everybody need a star. That star just got born.

That star is Jamerant. When you look across the league, there's only one person they're going to look back at. Right? And jersey sales, everything. AI. He's there. It was like AI and Kobe.

We need some. Right now, you're not It was like AI and COVID. We need some... Right now, like, you're not gonna do Wimby. Small market, too tall, overseas guy. Can't do Joker. For the global component of it, you're talking about the viewership being heavy all over the world. Globally? Why wouldn't Wimby...

He's your face globally. Here? If he was a Laker, probably. Nick, now you are using... If he is still, he's got a star in LA. So there's some... Here? If he was a Laker, probably. Nick, now you are using... If he is still going to be a year star in LA. It is. That's what the best players are.

What did you say? They're never going to support their team. You're going to be forced to because there's nothing else out there. You got Giannis, Jokic, and Luka. Who's better than them? It's not about being better. Who's better than them? Who's exciting?

Yeah. Who's more exciting than them? Who are not. It's not about being better. Who's better than them? It ain't being better. Who's exciting? Yeah. Who's more exciting than them? Who are the kids following? Everybody. The kids. Everybody's more exciting than Giannis and Lucas? No, no, Giannis is in his own lane. We're talking the kids.

Well, based on the fan vote, you can say LaMelo Ball. That's what I'm saying. Okay. The people's champ. But they got to win. Those guys got to win. Wouldn't that be a thing? You got to win.

It's too many foreigners in the NBA? Would that be a thing? You got to win. It's too many foreigners in the NBA? Could that be a thing? The future is all foreigners. That what? I just named three of them. Then you're going to add Wimby. Do we need more American stars? We have them.

We don't have them. They're European. They're taken. I'm telling you, once KD, once KD, once KD, Steph, and Bron retired, you know what time it is. The Jersey Shell list. Because ain't nobody stopping Giannis. know what time it is. The Jersey Shell list. Because ain't nobody stopping Giannis. Tyler, can you pull up the Jersey Shell list? He might keep getting MVP.

As long as he has nothing to do with the face. Yes, he does. No. Giannis has more personality than Tim Duncan. Yeah, might as well. Giannis ain't going to ever be the face. Was Kareem the face? Giannis ain't going to ever be the face. No, heem the face? Giannis ain't going to ever be the face.

No, he wasn't the face. He's too big. So, give your ass a kill over here. If you can't get past them Europeans, how you going to be the face? You sit here taking second every fucking year. But the Europeans not winning. Because my... Do you know what the face is?

The Europeans not winning. Who won last year? Wait, some Americans, finally. No, this is two different conversations. I mean, who won before that? Right, some Americans finally. No, this is two different conversations. I mean, who won before that? This is two different conversations. So in the last... No, no, no.

You all won two championships. No, no. You won two championships. Just answer though. You won two. You made us answer. Why you can't answer? You won two.

I said Joker and Giannis, right? Okay. But out of them five, who else did... Stefano won. Then was it Giannis? Who was... Lakers? Lakers started in 2020, one? Then was it Giannis? Who was two? Lakers? Lakers started in 2020, right?

Then the Warriors. Then Giannis, Joker, and then the American team. So, it's three to two. You got to win something. So... The face of the league. I'm not... The face of the league.

The face of the league. Don't have nothing to do with this. The person we're pushing globally. We're selling league. Don't have nothing to do with this. The person we're pushing globally. We're selling tickets on. It has nothing to do with winning. Yeah, it doesn't. Winning helps you, but the face is the most exciting look. Who are the kids gravitating to?

So who is that? Why big men, think about it. It was. Why big men can't sell is because the age group between 6 and let's say 18 okay sg you're not that i feel like it was it was anthony edwards this so we got we got the top selling nba jason tatum three jaylen brunson four victor wamba wamba five so three of the top four jersey sales are light-skinned americans lebron lebron first european no three of the top four Jersey sales are light-skinned in Americans First European no three of the top

We gonna see there's a new you guys got a Luca Giannis and yo kids rounding out the top 10 John now now this is how you do it. I told you number you say number three So we got one and two, right? They're gone. Number three, right? Very quiet. Four, very quiet. Great podcast, though.

Five, overseas. Now you got six, seven, right? Six, seven, and 12 for the American. Six, very vocal. Very vocal. Seven is this AI. Seven is the highlight reel. Send the video.

He's trying hard as a motherfucker. He tried. Because when it gets eight, nine, ten, eleven, once one and two go, it's up for grabs after that. Nobody's buying Joker. Because 3 ain't going to the finals this year, so that's going to go back down. Nobody buying Joker. You've seen All-Star Weekend.

He was last picked. But he's top 10 in jerseys now. He's top 10 in a big man in jerseys. Number 5 just ran this year. Chad is saying Bobo, too, so we just want to give him their love for that. Top ten. He's not going from ten to one.

Top ten. Three-time MVP and he's ten. Yannis. Yannis. Right? And he don't say nothing. He don't say nothing. Who?

Yannis. Yannis, Yannis, Yannis. That's why he can't be the face. Yannis wears tough crop. Number three is only up there because he got a Boston Celtics jersey. Okay. I say he's quiet, so he's not going to be it. Number four is quiet.

One of the toughest Celtics superstars. It's supposed to be Anthony Edwards. It's the market. It's the market. You put Giannis in a Knicks jersey, that's number one. Language barrier. Anthony Edwards. Do y'all know anything about Martin?

Right? The language barrier. You put Luka in a Boston Celtics jersey, that might be number one. The language barrier. You put Luca in the Boston Celtics, that might be the one. The language barrier. You care about no damn language barrier? Nigga! That's what he's doing, right?

Yeah, man. That's what he's doing, right? That's what he'll look like. That's why I'm buying the jersey. That's why I'm buying the damn jersey. I don't give a damn if he can't speak English. I don't care. I see that.

Ah, nigga! Come on, bro. I got the best friend. I can see that in Boston really leading to increased Jersey sales. Come on, bro. Increased Jersey sales. In Boston.

But this Larry Bird, bro. Larry Bird. Come on, bro. He tripping. He tripping. He tripping. In that city? He tripping.

A Luka in a Boston. Come on, in that city? Come on, bro. That's the number one selling jersey. He said, Yonnas got a language barrier. But you put anybody over there like that. He said, Yonnas got a language barrier. Put Yonnas in the next jersey.

He coming down. To the rock. To the moon. Number one jersey. But you put any of them in that. That's like. To the rock. To the moon. Number one jersey. But you put any of them in that. That's like, that's not, you put any of them in that. You put Shea in the Knicks jersey. You put God damn.

Put Shea in the Knicks jersey. Devin Booker in the Knicks jersey. No, no, no. Please put Shea in the Knicks jersey. Please put John Morant in the Knicks jersey. Please put Shea in the Knicks jersey. They're all number one. John Morant.

God damn, that's not making no sense. No, it's not. You put any one of them in the Knicks jersey. No, no, no. Not any one. They ain't one at all. You put any one of them in the Knicks jersey, they'll be a fan. No, no, not any one. You can put whoever you want in the Knicks jersey. Why is Ant up there and he's with the Timberwolves? That's what I'm saying. He's going to be number one.

Put Donovan Mitchell in the Knicks jersey. He's going to stay right at 15. What the fuck? Brandon, no need to disrespect the Cavs' number one option. Crazy. You can put it. I'll do it. I'll do it.

So unnecessary. Sorry. You know, I thought, all right, my bad. My bad. It hurt. It hurt. At least he 15. At least he still in there.

Still in there. He still in there. He still in there. Can we have a mediation? But no, for real. Yeah. But y'all know what star power mean, though. You know what city mean, big market mean.

It's more than what you're doing. You know what big market means. The big market creates the star. You know it. And you know it. You put Luka in that Boston Celtics jersey. You know it. You put Luka in that Boston Celtics jersey.

Philadelphia is not a big market. Philadelphia was, too. What? You put Luka in that Boston Celtics jersey. Yeah, all right. Yeah, you're still number one. The league. Chicago is a big market.

The league. All right. The NBA. The world. New York and LA. That's not the face. Compared to them. No, I didn't say he'd be, but I'm saying his jersey would be up there.

Anybody who's in the big market, like right now, top four is big market. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But Luka game, Luka game would be, yeah, he would be number one. Trust me. Because if Luka won a would be number one. Trust me. Because if Luka won a ring in the Boston... I'm not talking about jersey sales. I'm talking about the face. The face.

Who the league pushes. I know you guys don't know this. If Luka was with Boston, they would push him. There was a point in time where we have LeBron, right? The league was pushing Dwyane Wade. There's one in Cleveland being called Michael Jordan. There's one in Miami. The league Jordan. There's one in Miami. The league.

Because he won one. The league was pushing him. We're talking about what the league is going to do. Who the league identified. We're not talking about the best player in the world. We're not talking about some global shit. We're talking about when you're selling your business to these American companies. They don't want to hear none of that shit over there what you're talking about some global shit. We're talking about when you're selling your business to these American companies.

They don't want to hear none of that shit over there what you're talking about. Like the LeBron and Kobe commercial. They want to know who is going to be pushing our shit in the states and I can see them in All-Star weekend. I can see them in the summer. Who is that going to be?

Who is the league pushing? Who is the league pushing right now? LeBron I'm saying. They need that. Who is the league pushing right now? LeBron James, Steph Curry, Steele. Yep. That's all they have. They have not identified the next person. Because they can't find one. They over there juggling.

There's bingo. No, because the bingo. We got to figure the fuck out. Because once one and two and number 13 retire, we ain't got nothing. We got to figure. We just put it all in a bunch. The one that three, four, five, six, seven, eight. The one they were pushing.

That's a good point. The one they were pushing. That's a good point. That's a good point. If you really look at what he's saying, he's pointing out the whole difference. Well, based off of... Who's better than...

Based off one, two. This is not about... I know you got to push... It's going to be hard to push. You have to win, though. You have to win, be the face. I give nothing. Who was the most popularized person two years ago?

Yeah. Who was selling shoes to the kids, Gil? Is what you're asking? Who was selling shoes? Who got suspended? Yeah. They took your shoe off. It was Jha.

It was Jha. They got a thousand emails, and they had to put it back in, and it sold out. Who was that guy? Kyrie Irving. Demetrius Jamal Murray. Okay, thank you.

Jha. All right. Who? Yes. Jha. That guy. The guy that was over SportsCenter like crazy. For sure.

That was the person that was next in line. Yeah. He had a fall. For sure. That's for. That's a fact. All they're doing is waiting for him to clean up. Yeah. It's gonna be him. Okay. He did. No, that's fine. He let it go. Because the person who controls the kids

controls the market. No, for sure. That was Kyrie. I get it. That's Ja. I get it. Those are the two people who controlled the kids controls the market. No, for sure. That was Kyrie. I get it. That's Ja. I get it. Those are the two people who controlled the kids. But Gil, let me ask you a question. Do you feel like Ja can do that playing in Memphis,

knowing how small that market is, or does it not matter? He better win. Is he bigger than... Oh, if he wins... Similar to Ion. He better get that. He's larger than what his market is.

When the NBA is ready... Yeah. Memphis is coming off that guy. Yeah, for ready, Memphis is coming off that guy. Yeah, for sure. Memphis is coming off that guy. They cannot... He's coming off that guy. He better win

because I know what, them Europeans ain't slowing up. I can tell you this, as soon as Memphis sell their team... Them Europeans ain't slowing up, so I mean... I mean, yeah, I mean...

If he can find a way to get to the finals and AI it, I'd be all right, yeah. But if he can't, you got get to the finals and AI it, I'd be all right, yeah. But if he can't, you got to at least AI it. We're not going to make no French. If AI don't, listen, AI would have been selling. But if he don't get to that finals and go against them dogs and get to game one.

It's foul. It's charisma. Yeah, I get it. I get it. But you got to win, too, though. Don't do that. Don't just act like you can go through your whole career and just not getting to the Western Conference Finals.

You got to come on now. That counts. That counts. It does. Get rid of DEI. When John Morant drops his shoes, is your kid asking you how many championships or games he won? Or is he saying, hey, I want this fucking jersey and these shoes? They want the jerseys? Nike's making money.

Okay, that's fine. And they say they want the LaMelo balls. And they say they want the yarn. They want this, too. They want everybody's shit. So, I mean, everybody in there my son wants. I doubt it. I'm pretty sure you ain't buying.

Listen, if I can ask everybody to wear a jersey and go get my son a jersey, he would have them all over the place. Did your son say, please get me a Joker shirt? You bought him a Joker shirt? Hey, your son said, please get me a Joker. He definitely want a Joker jersey. I said a Joker jersey. I want them jerseys. You bought him the 351s? I said he wants everybody's jerseys up there.

I want that Joker jersey, too. Man, hell no. A Joker jersey? Oh, man. A Joker jersey? Hey, hey, hey. I'm saying it's not exciting. He good.

Don't get me wrong. Good, but nobody asking for a quick. My son's not asking for a Joker jersey? Hey, hey, hey. I'm keeping the Joker jersey up. He's good. Don't get me wrong, good, but nobody asked for a quick... My son's not asking for a Joker jersey. Your son don't play that position. Who sponsored? No, it don't even matter. Your son don't aspire to be an MVP. Your son don't...

What did you say? Your son don't what? He don't... He won't... He buy jobs. He buy Melo. Yeah. He said...

He won't play... He won't play paintball, go to the back. the back. He don't want to win no championships. Your son don't play that position. Boy, he's so big. Nobody's a big man. Come on, man. Exactly. Hey, Nike.

It ain't 90s no more when David Robertson had shoes. When LeBron goes. When LeBron goes. These motherfucking kids don't even wear shoes no more. These motherfuckers wear D-Cross and shit. They do wear Crocs. These kids wear Rick Owens. You don't even know how to be shoes no more. These motherfuckers wear Crocs and shit. They do wear Crocs. They do wear Crocs. These kids wear Rick Owens. These kids wear Rick Owens.

You don't even know how to be cool no more. Hey, don't go to AAU. You know what I mean? You don't even know how to be cool no more. There is a lot of Crocs in the gym. You don't wear Crocs? When LeBron retires... I wear socks.

When LeBron retires... I wear socks. When LeBron retires... Gil, you make your point when LeBron retires. When LeBron retires, who's Nike's biggest shoe seller? I feel like I'm seeing Nike even now with their marketing campaign pushing a lot of drama. Michael Jordan's shoe seller.

Michael Jordan's shoe seller. Michael Jordan's shoe seller. Michael Jordan's shoe seller. Michael Jordan's shoe seller. Michael Jordan's shoe seller. Michael Jordan's shoe who's Nike's biggest shoe seller? I feel like I'm seeing Nike even now with their marketing campaign pushing a lot of John Morant. Michael Jordan's retro shoe? No, that's Jordan. All the retros that come out? John Morant. Nike's a dead company right now.

You said Jordan. Yeah, it's a dead company. I said Nike. You said Nike? I said Nike. You said when LeBron retires? When LeBron goes. John Morant.

Who is the guy? The new guy? What new guy? You said the takeBron retires? When LeBron goes. John Morant. Who is the... Who's... The guy? The new guy? What new guy? You said the takeover? It might be. Who's shoe?

John Morant. Who's shoe? John Morant. Who's shoe is number one? John Morant. Sabrina. Woo. But she don't plan to.

Woo. Her shoe is getting worn in the league though. Yeah, it is Sabrina. John Morant. There we go. So it'll be in the NBA's, because it's a sponsor, it'd be in the NBA's and Nike's, right? No. John Moran is a Nike starting a heavy marketing business. Once LeBron retire, we need to go to the women's sports and push this brand for us.

When they took his shoes off... So we're going. Them kids went crazy. We ain't gonna get... to the women's sports and pushed his brand for us. When they took his shoes off, them kids went crazy. Just like when Kyrie got taken out. Once LeBron retired, they lost Kyrie. Them kids didn't want to hear that. Them kids didn't want to hear that when

Nike canceled Kyrie. Oh, yeah. That was their biggest fall. What the fuck? That's what happens when you listen to the media too much. That was their biggest fall. Yeah. What the fuck? See, that's what happens when you listen to the media too much. That's why you need to be watching Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoop, whoop. But let's keep this moving.

So we talked about, Gil, you talked about who's going to be the face of the NBA from an American standpoint, but let's now branch out globally. So Clippers beat the Spurs in San Antonio last night, but let's focus on a moment between Wimby and Ivica Zubac that went down in the third quarter. We are still looking for it. There it is. You see right here, Harrison Barnes hits a corner three, and as Wimby is running down to put himself under the rim, he gets pushed by Big Zoo.

Wimby was not feeling it, got his big Giraffican ass up, tried to run himself under the rim. He gets pushed by Big Zoo. Wimby was not feeling it. Got his big Giraffrican ass up. Tried to run after Zubox. Got his Giraffrican ass up. Let him know he didn't appreciate the shove. So no foul was called on the play. No technicals were called either. They just played on. They spoke on the court after the game.

They spoke on the court after the game. Zubox publicly apologized to Wimby in his post-game remark. Zubox got 150 on him. 150 pounds on him. He said, whoa, whoa, whoa. After the game, Wimby said, it's not even about Zubat. It's just frustration, no matter who it is.

Wimby was asked if he's officiated fairly. He simply replied, no. But he did add some further context, saying it's a hard thing to fight because it feels unfair sometimes But of course we talked about it with the staff and there's some stuff I have to do to help myself first of all being strong and not bailing out shots But also there's some work to do talking to the refs, of course explaining myself But for me, it doesn't feel like it's something I should influence. I'm a basketball player. I'm here to play and yeah

This is why it's frustrating. It's not my job to do politics. So Wimby listed at 235 pounds. Zubac's listed at 240 pounds. 240 and what? Man, hell no. Man, 340, motherfucker. I was on his team. I remember Shep was like, I'm 285.

I thought you better add 200 more pounds. Right? What the fuck? Back to Wimby, also known as Victor Wamba Wamba. That look like 20 more pounds. Hell no. So you guys like seeing Wimby stand up for himself like he did last night?

Yeah, I mean, you have to. That's Lee. Hey, hey, hey, look at that in King Martin. That get up too fast and run, get you hit too. K-Mart not here today, but I will tuck in my chain out of respect. Every time I see somebody fall and get up too fast, all I'm thinking is, there's some motherfuckers out here that just don't... We shared the video in the high school kid in the chat. I like the way you got up.

What was that thing that you just had? I like the way you got up. What was that? I like the way he stopped. He thought about his money. Remember that stat? He thought about his money. Baguettes and croissants ain't cheap. Thought about his money. His money said, let me go ahead and stop.

Yo, let me see this stat right here, because he was saying about Ja's shoes. Top 10 most popular sneakers by a player in 2023, 2024. Kobe, KD, Kobe, Sabrina, LeBron, Kobe, Kobe, Harden, and Freak. Ja not even on here. They have shoes that came out. So it's Kobe. I don't know.

I mean, I don't know how he's going to take over number one if Kobe. Oh don't know. I mean, I don't know how he's going to take over number one if Kobe. Oh my God. Yeah. Yes. This is why this is. Name those again, sir. Name them again.

Please name them again. Do it again. Say it again. My phone just died. I bet it did. Sounded dumb. Let me see the other one. It's just dumb.

That just sounded dumb. Shia's phone is no longer operating. Wow. Oh my God. That was on his other left. It's just dumb. That just sounded dumb. Shia LaBeouf's phone is no longer operating. Wow. Oh my God. That was on his phone. That was on his phone.

Kobe's retired. Kobe is retired. Okay, we get it. Who was the first active player? LeBron. LeBron. And then we said when he's gone. LeBron, Ramon, Jameson.

When he's gone. Oh, okay. Who was it again? Then it was Jameson. After LeBron. Oh, okay. Who was it again? Then it was James Harden. James Harden has nothing to do with Nike. Then you said Sabrina. You mentioned that. We know that because we can see it in AAU.

Nick has left the arena in disgust. And they phone died. I bet it did. Just saying. That's what the numbers say. Yeah. But let us shift back to the Wimby conversation. Let's move it over to this couch.

Mr. Cemetery Larry, while your phone is charging. Because I swear I didn't hear. I swear I did not hear. I didn't hear no Tatum. I didn't hear no Zion. Right? I didn't hear no Giannis. Jordan.

Right? I didn't hear no Jokic. No, Giannis in there. No Shea no Giannis. Jordan. Right? I didn't hear no Jokic. No, Giannis in there. No Shea. Giannis in there. But it's not Nike. I didn't hear none of these shoes that's irrelevant to the active players or who's going to be the next face of the league.

I'm pretty sure Jordan can't be the face of the NBA today. Oh, no. of the NBA today. Oh, no. But the phone died. Hey, can you give him a charger? He got one of the new ones, so I don't... I got it charged. Okay, you charge it. Charge that baby up, you know what I mean?

I was in on the bank. Damn, man, he just... Your man just kicked you. He kicked you in the hole. I'm just reading just kicked you. He kicked you in the hole. I'm just reading what it said. I'm just reading what it... I'm reading the facts of what it said. I'm reading the... I'm just reading what it said. He kicked you in the trenches.

Except the freak was on there. Where? How you gonna go from being not on the list of top ten to being number one? Damn. Tatum. Ain't nobody buy no Tatum Jordans? Who is the face of...

Team Jordan. We don't do... Michael Jordan. Team Jordan. We don't do the team. We don't do the team. Team as a face. Hey, that's a good point. Who is the face of the N.E.D.? That's a good point. And they named a bunch of Michael Jordan's in the post. Because Steph Curry got his own shoe, right?

Steph Curry got his own brand. He got his own brand. He got his own brand. He ain't underneath nobody's brand. Damn, that's crazy. Say that again? That's crazy. Uh-oh. You want to bring him up here?

Jaws? Kobe's. And A1. Shut up. A1, right? I seen different. I seen different. Uh-huh. A little bit of a difference. Now, you said Kobe, right? I've seen different. I've seen different. Uh-huh.

Now, you said Kobe, right? Yeah. He's not an active player, right? You got an AU team? Yeah. You got an AU team? Yeah, he's an assistant coach on an AU team. So he's not an active player.

Who is the number one active player? Number one active player would be A. Ja for Nike. Ja and A. Ja and Ant-Man there was some nice reads though you know the Kobe's and the Kobe's and the Kobe's in it and the Jordans and the Jordans of the drop we get that I'm pretty sure if you look at the penny Hardaway's are gonna be on that list too but he can't be the face of the NBA in 2025

is all I'm saying. Or when LeBron retires. They should just do a team NBA. Yeah, they should. Like after that. Just do team because they're not going to be selling like that. I mean, that's all that's out there. We have some potential options to take over as a fan. We got some options.

We got Ant-Man. We know who it is. We got Ja. We know who it is. We got Ja. We know who it is. We got Cooper Flagg. I mean, given the state of the country, that may be... Wouldn't it face the New Balances? Wouldn't it face the league being the Olympics? That's a white man's shoe.

That's a good white man's shoe. For sure. Wouldn't it face the league being the United States of the Olympics? Yeah, that's the... what's the rapper? Harold? Reverse D.E.I. He'd be the guy that's holding up the gold. Yeah. With all the... Yeah.

So who do you think is going to be the guy in 2028 when the Olympics come? That's why I asked the question. I'm like, who's going to be... Ask the question. Who's going to be that guy? No, no, no, no, no, no. Because Ja is not even invited. To 2028, sir?

Wait, 2028? In Los Angeles? He's not invited? Gills Arena will be active. I don't know who's invited. I don't know. We don't know who's invited. We don't know who's invited. We don't? To 2028, Sean? Wait, 2028? In Los Angeles? Why not? He's not invited? Gills Arena will be active. I don't know who's invited. We don't know who's invited. We don't know who's invited.

We don't? You don't think Ja going to be on that thing? Why wasn't he invited this year? Because of the situation. Ah, so it's going to stop him from being a future thing. Please slate. Come on, man. 2025 now.

Nah, Ja going. He going? Kobe's playing a gold medal. He going? Come on, man. Oh, okay. He going. Yeah, Ja will be here. Jalen Brown going? Kobe's buying a gold medal. He going? Come on, man. Oh, OK. He going. He going.

Yeah, Jabba will be here. Jaden Brown going? Ooh. OK. Jaden, do you think Jaden's going back? Depends on who the coach. So wait, wait, so wait. So Jaden Brown's not going.

I don't care. Y'all just switched. Tatum's not going. I ain't trying to switch the topic. I was trying to see where y'all was going. Well, I mean, as you guys tend to do, I think we ain't got nothing else. So if Tatum is not going. I'm about the face of the league. We trying to see where y'all was going. Well, I mean, as you guys tend to do, I think we ain't got nothing else. So if Tatum is not going... I'm about the face of the league.

We have to. We ain't got nothing else. The face of the league. That's what I'm saying. Face of the league. Them main three dudes is gone. All right, let's let Gil speak. There was nobody else on that panel.

Let's just remove people we know is not going to be there, right? We know Tatum is probably not going to be there. Why would we say that? We know Jalen Brown is probably... We know Curry's not going to be there. We know Devin? We know Tatum's probably not gonna be there. Why would we say that? We know Jalen Brown is probably not gonna be there. We know Curry's not gonna be there. We know Kevin Durant's not gonna be there. And we know LeBron is not gonna be there. I mean, they have to roster. I don't think AD's gonna be there either. So how close does Ja get now?

Like, who else? Who's get now? Like, I just, huh? Like, who else? Huh? Who's close now? Right? Then you got Ja, LaMelo, right? Ant-Man. I mean,

it's a brand new crop for the face of the NBA. Hooper Flag. Hooper Flag. Oh, my. Who's got Austin Reed? Who's got better names?

Ja. Shit. Arenas. Shit. Elijah Arenas. I mean, you just never know. You remember, the other people y'all talking about. He's definitely going to get invited. Right? 6'8".

Shit. Right, you know, Lucas overseas. So, you know, so... Jalen Brunson going to be on the Olympic team? Yeah, he should be. He'll be. So we ask these questions and all of a sudden everybody gets to shrugging their shoulders. They don't got no answers.

We ask the good questions. You're asking the question four years from now. How we... So we ask these questions and all of a sudden everybody gets to shrug their shoulders. They don't got no answers. We ask the good questions. Why would we have answers? So how would Ja be there then? I said, if you remove these five because they're not going to be there, who does it leave next? How does Ja make it then? You shrug your shoulders about Jalen Brunson, but you say, yeah, about Ja.

We're talking about four years from now. Get out of here with this. You said Jalen Brunson, but you say yeah about Ja. We're talking about four years from now. Get the fuck out of here with this. You said Jalen Brown. Catch him in real time, bro. What is the chances of, okay. Catch him in real time, bro. What is the chances of Jalen Brown? I said Brunson.

I didn't say nothing about Brunson. That's what we were talking about. No, I asked if Jalen Brown. What are you talking about? Cheryl asked about Jalen Brown. I said Jalen Brown. He not listening, bro. He not paying attention.

He's trembling. You said you got me. I'm not even listening. I'm not even in your conversation. You get him in real time. So why are you in our conversation then? So you over here in the conversation. I got him in real time. You don't even know what we talking about.

This is a conversation of the entire arena. If I don't know what you're talking about, how'd you get him? I said, got him dis-stri-lo. Right? I said, I removed the stars, the faces, and they're gone what what little crop is next in four years it's gonna be the man it's gonna be a little mellow Paolo Banchero Cade Cunningham right you Mobley like it's probably somebody from Houston Paolo Banchero right somebody from Houston Paolo Banchero like you gotta think four years from got who's gonna be on that being from Cleveland

USC yeah, that's okay. That was third. I said that Austin Reeves. I mean a lot of people whoa I mean number one third option in the league right now your bet who are the best that you have? Brunson probably somebody like Brunson or book um Booker Booker Booker Booker be there because he's already, like, he'll be there for the rest. Booker, man. That's what I'm saying. It's going to be. Bronny, potentially. You just never. He got four years. Like, everybody got four years to clean the image up and get this shit together. I mean, that's what happened with Hope. He couldn't make it in one year, then he cleaned up and then came back. Yeah, that's what I said. That's what I said.

So let's get back to Wamba Wamba for a second. I mean, we'll see, though. His French swat will likely be in L.A. 2028, trying to get some redemption. But we asked the chat, do you like to see Wimby standing up for himself? Eighty-nine percent of the chat said yes. They want to see him.

We don't know if Wimby has hands or not. We don't know if Wimby has hands or not. Lunchtime hoopers can usually scrap, though, Nick. They doing... He got the reach like a... You don't like him? Street fighter, Dawsey. It's time.

I'm tired of the same conversation about Wimby. He got to go now. Fuck. Take off. So what do y'all think about Wimby saying that he doesn't get a fair whistle from refs in his second year in Adam Silver's National Basketball Association? He shouldn't. In his second year. Does he attack the room? Association. He shouldn't. In his second year.

Does he attack the room? Yeah, he shoot a lot of jumpers. He shoot all jumpers. Oh, okay, well then. He just... There you have it. I mean, why are we giving you calls? You shoot eight threes a game at 7-5.

You know? Okay. Is a foul a foul Show me the back got back. Tell me the fouls If you're not strong enough, okay, it's a foul a foul if I could push you that easy Are all fouls better? It's a foul a foul. No, well depends on the time. All right, I'm not making I mean some reps ain't making that call If they don't call it don't call it man. I gotta stop babysitting this boy Stop babysitting win B

The main person stop babysitting win B you talk about all this tough shit stop babysitting that boy But did you ever give out stop babysitting that boy? Did you give out just especially where he came from to? How he could you everled and never called it? He's just a better go-better now. Is that how y'all want to act? He's soft like that? If I could touch you, you'd fly into the damn third row. I barely touch you, you'd fly into the third row.

Like, goddamn. What's wrong with that? I'm just saying, that's not a foul. Not a foul, huh? You never got fouled. So you pushing me into the third row is not a foul. Not a foul, huh? You never got fouled. So you pushing me into the third word is not a foul? Man, look at the clip. He barely touched me.

You touched me. Can we run that clip again, please, to refresh? You touched me with the foul. It's the foul of the foul. No. It's the foul of the foul. No. So let's take a look.

Harrison Barnes trying to get it. That's a foul? What the fuck was this? Look at that. That's an A. That's a fucking foul. Man, help, man. He's trying to box it. That's a foul. That's what Pupacar just did. Look at that. That's a A. That's a fucking foul. Man, help, man. He's trying to box out. No, man, get your finger out.

What he's trying to do. Play it back. Play it back. He's saying he's trying to what? Hold on, hold on. Rebound. Hold on, Nick. What'd you just say?

What'd you say? He trying to what? Box him out. Look. All right, let's look at Zubac. Pupacar just pushed him. He's trying to what? He running.

He running. He was trying to box him out. He running to box him out. Are you changing it? Let's play it back. He wasn't boxing out. Y'all saving that boy. No, but he was not boxing out. He running towards him to move him.

Why he got to move while he was running straight to the rim? That's a foul play. He wasn't boxing out. That was not a boxing out. He got pushed first. He got strong legs. He got strong legs. Look, he didn't fly all out of bounds. Boom.

This nigga get touched, he fly. He didn't even extend. He's 7'12". He didn't extend. This is an extend. He didn't look at the rim. He didn't extend, though. His position is this.

He ran through him. He touched him with his shoulder. And he do all that. Come on, man. So it's not a foul. Look. Did he extend? You saying it's not a foul? did he extend you saying it's not

You remember that a marquee's is it more than Morris Versus Keith Marquis he should got a flopping Do you remember that huh he said I got five for flopping Oh Marquis hit Yoko's. The ref should say something about him. Know what I'm saying? Did you see that play? I'm tired of motherfuckers flopping all the time. If they won't call, don't flop. That's what the ref should say. If a motherfucker flop, he ain't getting shit.

I want a ref to come out and say some shit like that. If a motherfucker flop, he ain't getting shit. When Markeith hit Jokic, it was nothing, right? Ran into him hard. Jokic body, uh, little weight. Jokic chased him down,, right? Ran into him hard. Jokic body, little weight. Jokic chased him down, gave him a little oomph. Whiplash. A little?

Whiplash. Wasn't a little. He died. He died. His brother had to play for him. But he gave him the same. No, no. The twin.

He gave him the same shit he gave him. The twin. He gave him a little, the same chuck. Same chuck. Boom, whiplash. I didn't see no chuck. There's no chuck in there, though. It don't matter. He getting them back. He skinny no chuck. There's no chuck in that, though. It don't matter. He's skinny, bro.

It's no chuck in that. It's skinny! Man, it ain't that skinny. That's like me pushing on your son that he gonna fly, man. If you push my son, you gonna get pushed with a bullet, motherfucker. I'm gonna shoot you. The dude weighs at least 100-something more pounds than the man. Come on. No, it don't matter.

You gonna fly into the third row and do all that extra work. If I don't see him, how many? Except the third row. Come up doing all that Bambi fucking... You can tell him Bambi legs. Yes! Yeah! He's out of there. Look at that giraffe shit. No. He's out of this shit. Why you mad at Wimby, dog?

Because... What did he do to you? He ain't being who he's supposed to be. A second year? It's just a second year. He don't have... He don't have cable. Second year? LeBron was fucking making the playoffs the second year? It's just a second year. He don't have cable. Second year? LeBron was fucking making the playoffs the second year. Furs is on camera. You want to be the face, B, then you got, yeah.

LeBron didn't make the playoffs the second year. He did. No, he didn't. He did. No, he didn't. He didn't make it his first year. Somebody look it up. Look it up.

My phone did. No, he didn't. Well, Melo did. Shit, you want to be them type of players in that same category, they talking like you that, do it. Say it again? They put him in the LeBrons, the Melos, and all that shit. Yeah, do it. Who in that category?

Wimby. Oh, they put Tatum in that category too, right? He won a championship. And he fucking made the Eastern Conference Finals his rookie year. Mm. You can't put you there. Do it. Dunked on LeBron.

Then bumped the motherfucker. Like, move, little nigga. Jason Brown did the same thing. Yeah, move, nigga. This nigga didn't get pushed. Jason Taylor didn't get pushed. Jason Brown did the same thing, though. What?

Mm. Still. He pushed somebody? No, he made the finals his rookie year. Thank you. That's American. And he's an MVP. What's that got to do with the push?

And he's a champion. We'll make the playoffs. So you push somebody? I'm tired of hearing, Wimby is the future, because no. Do the future now. Shit. Well, if you do it now,

then it's not the future, Swank. I don't want to be in the future. I don't want to be in the future. I'm going to be the present, motherfucker. So do y'all think Wimby has got to the level of star power where he can start complaining about his whistle? Yep. Not getting any respect from NBA officials. You guys have all played in the league.

What did you have to do to start earning the respect of officials in the league? Stupid shit. Stupid shit like what, Gil? What you do, Rev? Hey, how you doing, Mr. Thomas? You got to start knowing their names. Nice to see you. You got to start knowing their names.

Knowing their names. Shake their hands. Shake their hands. That's about the keys. I could call you, know that was a foul on me. You know, safe travels to your next destination. All right? Sure. So they used to come to Milwaukee at a car-to-run club. I used to see them.

They were at the club. No, no, no I just taught It's a Italian spot. Oh, yeah, I'm just pay their bills pretty be and then just walk out, but you know Oh, so I mean allegedly because that feels that feels kind of what like an extra benefit. Yeah, no, no I'm gonna fit for them. I mean, no, I'm just but they don't know but you know, they saw me in there But boom, boom. I'm out. Okay. Courtesy of topic. You know, say what's up. Say how the family doing. No, for sure. But I mean, I think it's how you play too. They're fans too. Refs. So like if you, if you cooking and you doing your thing, they gonna just give you the fouls regardless. How many times you did that? What? Paid for the dinner. They don't know, though. I'm just telling them now. Oh, they know. They know.

No wonder you got that call. They saw you in there? No wonder you got that call. Yeah, I'm sure. No wonder you got that call. I didn't know that secret. They ain't help me. Yes, they did.

We're just playing against y'all. I remember that shit. Oh, my god. You don't remember that? Cheryl, how about yourself? Obviously, different boat. Mm-hmm. Arguably the GOAT.

Are you with Brandon? Women's basketball. But how long did it take you to get the respect from refs and the WNBA? Was it instantaneous? Um... I really don't know. Were you cordial with them? Did you start learning their names?

No, like, I really don't. The smell says it all. No, there were some that I was like, oh, I really don't. The smell says it all. No, there were some that I was like, oh, I'm glad he or she's calling the game. And then there were others where I was like, ah... That's gonna be a long day. That's gonna be a long day.

Can we give it up for the cool refs out there? I had a ref press me before a game recently because I was talking about janky refs, but I told him he was not in that mix. I know them cool refs. Do y'all feel bad about cussing the cool refs out sometimes when you're in the heat of the moment? Yeah.

They cool? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do. I do sometimes. And then go back later and be like, not bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry.

But you know from the jump ball, though. Like, you know when they come over, they give you the basketball, ask you what ball you want when you meet up at the... Like, you know the cool refs. The cool refs. That's how they are. What's up, man?

What you doing tonight? How you feeling? Like, yeah, you know. The ones that just throw the ball at you or which one you want. You know, like... And it must be just throw the ball at you, which one you want, you know, like. And it must be five and seven nights for him too. They tired too.

Cause they tired. I always got calls, so I don't, you know. All right, well let's- I definitely got some calls. Huh? I was like, ooh, like I knew it was an offensive foul, but they called it on the other team. I did so much yelling, hey, hey, hey, hey!

Oh, hey! I said, that's all you heard. You gonna call one of these guys? Devin Harris was the worst player to play against. Huh? Devin Harris. He used to always go, hey, hey! Like he was the first. Where you think he got it from?

Bro, that used to get, anytime he would go make a move, I'd, where you think he got it from? He used to be the most annoying player ever. He got it from the A&T. In Dallas. Dallas, New Jersey. When he was in New Jersey cooking.

Jersey cooking. He was cooking in Jersey. I forgot about him. He's all you need. Devin Harris, bro. As soon as you get in a penalty, picking me up full court. He was good. I'm beating the whole way to it.

Wisconsin. He went to Wisconsin. Let's hit the Clippers real quick before we get to our special announcement that we have coming. Elijah Arenas will be announcing his college decision very, very soon. You know, UCLA, NIL bread didn't reach our target, but got close. Was not in Elijah's top five, but we're hoping he was just trying to throw everybody off. A man of suspense. He could change his mind.

Well, you know. Yeah. We're going to see. Nah, you know. Yeah. We're gonna see. Nah, you don't wanna be coached by that dude. Let's move. He was cussing his coaches out.

Nah, if lives go there, his mental gonna be fucked up. Brother, I was never coached, bro. I'm talking about the coach at UCLA. Nick, we know you went to SC. We don't need any slander, but let's talk about another LA team. The Los Angeles Clippers got a combined 96 points out of Harden, Kawhi, Norm Powell, and Zubats last night, with Kawhi dropping a season-high 27 points

in a season-high 28 minutes, along with six rebounds, seven assists. Norm Powell added 27 points and eight rebounds. The Beard delivering 21 points, in addition to 11 assists, and Zubats earning his nickname, Zoo Outcender, with 21 points and 22 rebounds. It'd be hard to stop.

Yeah, how scary is this Clippers squad now that they are close to healthy? Oh, Zubat's also 5-1 versus Wimby in his career. So that could be why he gave him the little shove, just to remind him. Hmm. Yeah. For you foreign lovers over there. Zubat's also a foreigner.

I'm fucking with Ken. I like that I'm fucking with Ken. I was going to say it, but he just said it. I'm just fucking with Ken. Head on the phone, always listening. But Nikki's a foreigner. But Nikki's a foreigner. Seems like dissension amongst your ranks, though.

But I let him do it. I let him cook. He likes to cook sometimes. The Euro, not fucking with each other, though. They're on eternal beef. We got the Euro on Euro crime. They're trying to see who's going to the cookout.

What about the Euro on Euro crime? I want to go to the cookout. Me, this year. It's me. No cookout. No more Luca. Pate at the cookout. But how scary is this Clippers squad?

What do you think? Six in the West right now, obviously Kawhi. Getting back to it. Man, I don't think nobody want think? Six in the West right now, obviously Kawhi. Getting back to it. Man, I don't think nobody want to see them in the playoffs, bro. Like, if they stay healthy,

they got a chance to me. I feel like if they run into Houston, Memphis, the Lakers, Denver, to me, they got a better team than all of them. Then who? I hate to say the Lakers.

If we don't make no moves, yeah. But if we make a good move, you know, I feel like we got a chance. But with Kawhi playing how he playing, if you get that on the stadium, it's like full time, not like every other game, I think they're going to be hard to beat. Where are the Clippers at right now? Six in Adam Silver's Western Conference. If the Clippers can get to five, they're getting out the first round.

For sure. Winning it, I don't know, but if they stay between five... I don't think nobody in the West got a chance to win it, really. They're getting out the first round. If the playoffs started today, the Clippers would be taking on the third-seeded Grizzlies in the first round. Grizzlies? Oh, the Grizzlies going home.

With Future facing the NBA, John Moran. Yeah, the Grizzlies going home. Clippers win that. Yep. In six. Clippers win that. Or seven. In five.

In five? Okay. 4-1. For sure. I see you doing research, Gil. He can do that all he wants. Agent Zero. He can do that all he wants. Agent Zero. He can do that all he wants.

Facts over feelings, as we like to say here in New England. All I know is that Memphis is going home. That shit's starting today. Yeah, I think Memphis is going home. Goodbye. Pack that shit up on Bourbon, whatever. What street is that? Bourbon Street.

Beale Street. Go eat the goddamn barbecue. Yeah, whatever. Barbecue. Whatever. Y'all rolling with Memphis barbecue on another note. Hustle and flow. Hustle and flow.

Fuck yeah. Whoop that church. Whoop that church. It's gonna be whoop that church. They whoopin' that ass. DJ! DJ! DJ, man.

DJ, man. Hey, man. Hey, man. Hey, man. I got some of that sticky yicky, man. It's the Clippers. Gil, your response? It's the Clippers. Gil, your response? It's the Clippers.

The Clippers are better than y'all right now. Facts. The Clippers are better than y'all right now. You know the Clippers was four seed? They was four seed last year, right? Really? Were they the four seed last year? No, the Mavs were the fifth seed.

They were the four seed last year, right? But they were the four seed last year, right? At the end, towards the end. So, I mean, it's still the first half of the season. So we don't... They were the fourth? Kawhi didn't play in the fourth? Kawhi didn't play? He played one game, he came back, fucked the rhythm up and... He came back one game, got his ass torched, right?

That's what happened? Oh, shit, I ain't ready for this. That's what happened? But they were the fourth seed last year, right? Right. And, uh... They were the fourth seed. Uh, how many games in the second round did they play?

They did not play any in the second round. Oh, okay. Because you know they did not advance to the second round. So, so, so their record being good, they're not going to be able to play any of the second round? No, no, no. They're not going to be able to play any of the second round. They're not going to be able to play any of the second round. They're not going to be able to play any of the second round. They're not going to be able to play any of the second round. They're not going to be able to play any of the second round. They're not going to be able to play any in the second round did they play? They did not play any of the second round.

Oh, okay. Because, you know, they did not advance the second round. So their record being good, they were good last year and the year before that. Paul George ain't there. He was there, though. Oh, Paul George was there last year? Yeah. Oh, that's why.

That's a whole new thing. Brandon, we need a mediation with you and the players that have caught your ire. No, Paul George, no. He deserves his number retired in Indiana. Because we will be at All-Star Weekend. They will be looking for us. Before Danny Granger. You got beef with a lot of people in L.A.?

I don't have beef with nobody. I'm just stating the facts. Do I got to wash my back? Do we? We didn't get your protection. Why? He said, do I got to watch my back? Can't talk hoop

when niggas ain't gonna get sensitive, bro. That shit lame. You know, look. Shit lame. Got a problem. If you got a problem with me having a problem

with your game, you lame. Yeah, but long as I ain't keeping it personal. I got a problem with your game, man. I don't like your game. So what?

Well, that's just, shit, they put the mic in front of my face. I'll get to talk about whoever game I don't like. That's true. Shit. It's a't... Shit, they put the mic in front of my face, I'll get to talk about whoever game I don't like. That's true. Shit. It's a privilege.

But it's a privilege to play like... Shit, play better, make me like your game. You can play like our crew versus they crews at Northridge. At Northridge? Yeah. Man, you ain't got to like nobody's game, man. Shout out Cal State Northridge. Man, you don't like your game.

The top three of my California State University. Shout out another public university in California. It's the Clippers, man. University of California, Los Angeles. Like, I mean, at this point, for Clippers to even get any kind of recognition, they got to win a championship. But, yo, we have said, into a dome. I mean, yeah.

Home court advantage. What I'm saying is, the Clippers have done everything. The Clippers have done everything. The Clippers have done everything possible. Right? We done seen them first, second, third, whatever. And they've lost. Rough greens or no? Just into it.

No, not rough greens. All right. Damn, Steve, I was practicing too. Let's go. But ladies and gentlemen, we have a special guest joining us now in the arena. He was just named McDonald's All-American earlier this week. Elijah Arenas is back in the building. See you change the fit.

See you change the fit. Let's go. The best Arenas in the house. Hey, man, what school is black and white? The best basketball player. What school is black and white? Look blessed. In the arena. You said what school is black and white? The best basketball player. What school is black and white? You look blessed. In the arena.

You said what school is black and white? You got the Hardys on? Got the Hardys on. What? Always exclusive. What's up with you, Elijah? Good to see you twice in one week. Fresh off your McDonald's All-American game announcement.

Currently ranked by ESPN as the 12th best player in the nation. We disagree. He number one. What about that? I'm mad I missed the fries. I missed that episode. Elijah, you reclassified to class of 25 recently. It means that you will be

finishing up your high school career, which means that you have to go to college. You gave us your top five earlier this week. But I want to know, what has the recruitment process for you been like overall? It's been good. I've been blessed to you know be recruited by all these teams You know me and my family we've been excited the whole way through and then I've kind of narrowed my decision down to you know

one school so There can only be one We good? We good? We good? Did you, uh... Wait, wait, don't... I'm nervous right now. I'm nervous too, damn. I'm nervous. Like, what the fuck? I'm over here, I'm like about to go down the ramp. Why you got me nervous? Man, his heart just raced.

The chat is filling up, so this is what we call vamping. We're gonna start while this chat fills up. We got fans from colleges across the country that are pulled up to gills arena right now. Usually you do it by yourself. Yeah, I Did you sure tell your coach so he can Go before we do just say we do so he can go personally before we do, you know Normally we would have the table here. You'd have a bunch of hats It'd be a UCLA hat the Louis Louisville hat, the Kentucky hat, the Arizona hat. You also mentioned USC amongst that mix.

Wow. And then you would do the half-sit and unzip and pull the shirt on. We're Gilson. We do things differently here. So, Elijah, you are going to call the coach of the school you are picking to let him know first the selection you have made. So we got the FaceTime ready to go. Go ahead and get it.

No way. You going to call the coach first before you say it? I don't even know if Mick Cronin got an iPhone. Call him directly. It better be the coach. I'm trying to see who it is. It better be the coach. What you calling?

It is ringing. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Hey, coach. Elijah. How youoh. Hey, Coach. Elijah. How you doing? I'm good. We're just getting ready for practice.

What's happening? So I'm on the podcast right now, and, you know, it's kind of like a big day for me. I wanted to let everybody know that I want to come into USC. What the fuck? I told you. Let's go. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go. Go? I told you. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. Are you serious? Let's go. Let's go, baby. Oh my goodness gracious. Oh my goodness gracious. Congratulations.

Welcome to the family. All right, love this, love this, love this. Here we're going to coach you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to the family. All right. Love this. Love this. Love this. Here, we're here to coach you.

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Hey, Elijah. Yeah. Elijah, congratulations, man. Thank you, sir. You celebrate with your family. I'm going to go celebrate with the coaches and call you in a little bit.

Yes, sir. Cannot wait to call you. Thanks for trusting us. Thank you, sir. Love it that you're staying in Los Angeles, California, Elijah. Fight on. Yes, sir, coach. Fight on.

Love you, man. All right, coach. That's hard, man. That's hard. Congratulations. Hey, Josh, congratulations to you, dog. You're a good daddy, man. I'm a proud uncle, man. That's awesome. The light's getting in me, J. Lodge, congratulations to you, dawg. You're a good daddy, man. I'm a proud uncle, man.

That's awesome. The light-skinned enemy, me, mama, me, hey. I got to give it up to you. Shout out to Lodge. Congratulations on picking USC, the University of Southern California. I got to give back that check to others. You're officially a Trojan.

First and only time you hear me say bye, dawg. They gave me a couple times. Tell them shit, man. It was it. I tried. Shout out to Coach Eric Musselman. Join in on the FaceTime. Gil out here sweating,

cheesing, smiling, swaggy, sweating, smiling. Brandon already had the jersey ready to go. Apparently you knew something we didn't. You could have let me know before I decided on this wardrobe for the day.

Well, the best in Southern California at the same school right now. Man. Hey. It's about to get cracking over there. Who? Juju?

Juju and... Loving basketball. Great storyline, though. No doubt. Yeah, for real. No doubt. It's about to get cracking. No doubt.

My NBA coach, Muscleman was my coach. Eric Muscleman. He was? That's where 1-4-Flat came from. Oh, shit. Eric Muscleman. Oh, you did tell me that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gilbert Arrhen is the architect of 1-4-Flat. Hopefully, we'll be seeing 1-4-flat came from. Oh, shit. Eric Musselman. Oh, you did tell me that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gilbert Arenas, the architect of 1-4-flat. Hopefully we'll be seeing 1-4-flat next season at USC as you continue your basketball career. But, Elijah, what made you pick USC? For me, it felt like the best fit. You know, for everybody that kind of, like, supported me on this journey, just helped me, you know, see my path.

And then, you know, going on campus, seeing how, you know, being at USC was like, it just made me feel special. And then talk to the coach, you know, later on, kind of like going on and like seeing what I could possibly be in, you know, it was just amazing for me. So I think, I think that I could, I could really go and go play for you see It's a beautiful you say you have fun The whole experience He got game or was it no, I'm just gonna kidding. But Swaggy, we saw you guys...

These kids don't know nothing about that, man. They actually go to the school to go there. They were in the classes touring the campus. We saw you guys at the USU-CLA game on Monday night. What did it just mean for you to be in that atmosphere, be in the Galen Center, in that arena, knowing that that was going to be the school that you were going to decide on?

No, that part was special. Seeing the game, it was very fun for me. You know, I was there with my family on that recruiting trip. And then, um... I liked the way, like, I liked what I saw. So for me, it was just, it was pretty easy, you know, picking it. Easy for us. All the other colleges that recruited me, I was very thankful. And it was very special to me.

On the bright side, I get to keep this in-isle bread that I had raised for you in the ice cream pints. But we're gonna go around the couch. I want everybody to give who went to college, first and foremost. Elijah's advice as he prepares for this next step in his career. Shout out, Brandon.

Elijah, you could've went overseas, been like a trendsetter like Mr. B, but you going to college. But we're gonna start with you, First Shot. Whatsetter like Mr. B, but you going to college. But we're going to start with you first, Shott. What advice or how to navigate college, the ins and outs, do's and don'ts, do you have for Elijah? Enjoy college, one. Enjoy college, process, class, all that.

Like, yeah, you going because you want to go to the NBA and all of that other stuff, but don't miss out on the experience of college, like what that feels like incorporating with hooping and being hungry to go back to the gym and girl in the class you got a crush on and I'm saying like it ain't about the party and and all of that but just the experience of being on campus walking the yard and all that don't miss out on all that I'm saying cuz that's the that's the part you gonna look back on I'm saying like yeah I fucking love USC and then that's what I'm saying? Like, yeah, I fucking love USC. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's what I would say.

That's good. Sherwin, advice? Yeah, first of all, congrats. Thank you. Like, it's a special time. And I would totally agree with what Rashard said. Enjoy it. It's college.

Have fun. Embrace everything about it. And the last thing I would say is stay true to yourself. Don't get caught up in everything that's gonna be going on around you. And just remain true to who you are. You're in this spot for a reason. So, congrats.

Before we get to this side of the couch, we do have Mr. B, lottery pick, L.A. Hoops legend. You're following in the footsteps of greatness all on this couch. And Mr. B, lottery pick, LA Hoops legend. You're following in the footsteps of greatness all on this couch. And Mr. B, as Elijah, starts his college career, but also tries to get to that ultimate goal, getting to the league, being a lottery pick like yourself. What are the most important things you think he needs to focus on to get his game right, to get to the ultimate level? First, like, keep God first. Do everything. And like you said, enjoy the moment. Like, be grateful for where you're at right now in life.

A lot of people don't get that opportunity. And then, you know, you know why you're going to SC. You know what the main goal is for you. You know why you're there. You know why you picked this school and what the next goal is. I think when I first met you, we were talking at the shoe surgeon, you were like, yo, my goal is to get to the NBA. Yeah. So, you know, that's the next goal is. I think when I first met you, we were talking at the shoe surgeon, you were like, yo, my goal is to get to the NBA. Yeah.

So, you know, that's the main goal. And, you know, put everything together, keep it to your dad, stay focused. Like, you're going to be all right. And you're home.

So you got your family. Yeah. Like, you know, my biggest thing when I went to overseas was I had my family. I had my mom, my brother. So, you're going to be all right.

Swaggy, you went to USC. Man. And from the San fernando valley all the hard work man all the shit elijah used to do talk crazy to see him like this now i just feel like a man tears man but i say he got the best of both worlds for sure. You get to go home. I say enjoy it, but don't enjoy it so much. You know, get away from it. Go home.

Get back. Go to the football games. Walk down the road. Because they're going to love you. And once you're like a Trojan, you're a Trojan for life. So it don't matter what goes on in your life, you can always come back home, talk to people there. It's a, you know, we ain't like UCLA, man.

We a private school. We ain't gonna let you do you. You know, I'll let you get my locker, if you want my locker and all that. You know, I could get you a first, you know, some campus hangout. You know what I mean? But right now... You still at them colleges? Get your first, you know, campus hangout. You know what I mean?

But right now... You still at them colleges? No, I'm talking about... Hell no, man. I'm talking about I could take you, like, to the... We got a 9-0. It's like our little hangout spot back in the day, you know? I ain't been over there a lot of times.

No, I'm just saying. Little hangout spot. You still in the colleges. Yeah. You know, like, when you go to... You know where to go. When you go to leave that first year, you always double back? I seen it, I seen it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But, nah, enjoy it, man. You still in the college, boy. It's nothing like going to the Galen Center, being on campus. Oh, gosh. It's like a surreal feeling, man. It's so enjoyable. But you get the chance to go back home and get away from all the college stuff and be around family and all that.

So that was the best thing for me. I didn't have to leave home. I didn't have to get homesick. So when I did get homesick, I just went home and ate some home-cooked meals for my mom and dad, talked to my pops, family, and all that. And then get back to it.

So, yeah. Last but not least, Gil, obviously, seen Elijah his whole life, now fulfilling the next step of his destiny, picking USC for college. What advice do you have for him on how to navigate the college landscape? Um, same thing I always tell them, be willing to learn. Right? Everything is a new experience. You know, you can't go into any situation thinking you know everything.

I... We, as adults, young men, young women, older women, we're growing every day. So, you know, don't handicap yourself by thinking you know everything that's going on.

It's a new level, new coaches, new experience, new people. Meet as many people as you can. Build those bridges. You the big man on campus, there's going to be some CEO, some tech guy on that same campus. You know, shake hands, build bridges, build relationships, and then, you know, hopefully you can get ready for the next journey. Congratulations. Yeah, man.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That one's the most important thing. Did you give him this jersey? Is that a one-zeri turned zero? Because I was like, that don't look like that one. You got to do what you got to do. You got to do what you got to do. Ingenuity.

Make it work. I love it, though. Elijah, back to yourself. What do you think that you can bring to USC next season? Being willing to learn. Like, I feel like the best and the biggest step for me is just being, like, coachable. So, like, willing to learn anything and everything I can.

For sure. So you're going to be playing for a great one in Coach Musselman. Well-respected across the coaching circle. But, Elijah, before we let you dip, we got a special treat for you. Bring out the cake. We don't show the cake. Bring out the gift.

I got some gift for you. I got him some books. As you know, USC is in the hood. Hopefully, there's a blicky in there. Just in case. I got him a book. Nick, you know, it gets rough after 9 p.m. It's a little bit different now. Uh-oh, look at all we got.

Put the hat on. Somebody get him an O.J. Simpson shirt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Put the hat on. Nah, nah. Get him an O.J. jersey. Put the hat on. I don't wear Trojans.

You stupid. You know, I'm natural. I'm natural. I'm going to I'm natural. I'm gonna go ahead and get this bucket out. Go ahead and put it on. That's old man shit. Uh-oh, uh-oh.

Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh.

Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Push it out. Yo, you got it on backwards. Wow. Daddy, damn, daddy. Wow. Shout out. Elijah Arenas taking his talents to USC

next season. We're going to see you in the McDonald's game soon. Look forward to seeing you continue your basketball career at USC and finish up your high school career. I know. Take that shit off your head. No, listen, no. No, I can't wait for that. Man, take that shit off your head. It don't look right, Gil. No, listen, no. No, I can't wait for McDonald's.

Elijah, appreciate you, bro, man. Thank you, sir. Put that on. Go ahead, put that in the room. Appreciate it. Now, take your ass back to school. Congratulations. Now, hey, man, take your ass to school.

Better take that ass to school. Six period. Thank you. You never go to six period. Nobody go to six period. P, congratulations, man. Congratulations. Congratulations. Elijah Arena. Thank you to six feet. P, congratulations, man.

Congratulations. Congratulations. Elijah Arena. Thank you, guys. Selected USC. I thought he had a cake. Thank you so much to Elijah for trusting us to announce his college decision live on Gil's Arena.

Oh, I'm hung up. I'm hung up. Best of luck. Why don't we let the boy see his cake? You can't show the cake on camera? They did show the cake on camera. It's Oh, I'm home. Presenting our whoop whoop. Best of luck. Why don't we let the boys see his cake? You can't show the cake on camera? They did show the cake on camera. It's very, very big. Oh.

Give it to Mr. Bean. We wanted to see it. I wanted to see it. That was all right. Is it that heavy? I mean, oh, they seen it already? Okay. The chat has seen it.

Shout out to everybody in the chat. Shout out to all the USC fans out there. As you know, I am a UCLA Bruin. I wanted the peas. But we put loyalty and allegiances aside to give it up for Elijah. It's been tremendous just to see his career flourish, develop into the player, the young man he is today.

A good kid, man. Very, you know. So shout out to Elijah. Yo, Gil, was ever, like, another situation, like, overseas or anything ever in the picture? Yeah, you know, with him, you know, we talked about, you know, everything. You know, during meetings, you ask the questions you need to ask. I can't, you know, I can't play for you.

I can't. So, you know, overseas, you know, G League at the time, you know, talking about that. Going back for a senior year. So we put all the options up there, and it was like, what do you want to do? And we was really open with any one of them. Because he had to commit to be a senior, so he had to get in that process. It was a headache. So overseas was considered top, considered, you know, top notch,

and then he actually got to reclass, so then it was, all right, what schools you like? Started talking to them, and, um... You know, I guess,

you know, with him, you know, from what he's, you know, he said, is, uh, Muslim men talk to him every day. Mm.

He said every day. That's my thing, too. Right? That's a big deal. Yeah, it is. You know, he said, is, uh, Muslim men talk to him every day. Mm. He said every day. That's my thing, too. Right? That's a big deal. Yeah, it is. You know, he said some schools didn't, um, they didn't reach back out. I think because he was still a junior.

Okay. Right? And then, you know, once he became a senior, I guess no one got the limo. Well, apparently somebody did. Somebody did. Somebody, you know, that's what I said. So he said, I talk to him every day.

And I said, you know, he wakes up at 3 sometimes. So he'll be 3 in the morning. He calling people. Wow. Overseas just ain't the place to be right now. Yeah, we know you don't cry. As much as I want him to go to Arizona. You want to cry, don't you?

You want to cry, don't you? You don't cry in a car. Hey, man, you got to get back that $100,000. He going to cry in the car. He going to cry in the car. No refunds, girl. You know the rules. That's nice.

But you know you don't cry, but you look very emotional right now. I did see your eyes watering up just a little bit. I got to say, you want to go into college, man? That's a problem. I'm not crying because he going to college. Get the same All that college money I don't saved over these I get that back I'm thinking about the new Rolls Royce up to buy you

Are y'all serious? What's wrong with y'all? Back home Mama gonna be walking around ball Johnson's win If you come back home, me and your mama going to be walking around the house naked. Balls Johnson twins. Woo! Woo! Balls Johnson. The Kiko Anson.

The Balls Johnson dance. Hey, guess who? Just say, how good could they be? Rashad. Yeah, that's a good question. How good could USC be? Oh, man. If Bronny was still there.

See how far you go? How good you think they could be? Well, we didn't have the same coach. I don't know. I was 18 this year. We didn't have a muscle man with Bronny. I think he makes... He would have helped Bronny for sure. I'm surprised he didn't stay. I'm surprised he didn't stay.

I thought he was going to stay there, but he wasn't. That scared him. Bronny in the third year, Elijah... hip for me. I thought he was going to say that, but he wasn't. That scared him. Ronnie in the third year, Elijah. That scared us. Freshman. That's a hell of a freshman. The heart scared him, where he was like, I want to go live my dream. With Juju on there, Juju, Ronnie, Elijah.

What? USC back on the map. But they did have a, like. Well, they're just another person to look off. They had a number one pick. They're just another person to look off. They had a number one pick. They're just another person to look off. You know what I mean? With Brownie, they had the top three number one point guard,

but he ended up falling because of all that going on. Uh-huh. Yeah. Stewart. He played for Utah. He got drafted for Utah this year. Collier. Collier.

Oh, Collier. Collier and Boogie Ellis. Boogie Ellis. But, Gil, in all sincerity, man, just want to congratulate Elijah, congratulate the entire Arenas family. Second one that you sent to college. First McDonald's All-American in the family.

The best Arenas in terms of basketball player in San Fernando Valley history. Yeah. You got to make Mickey D's. For real. So congrats to Elijah and congrats to USC for getting it done. Crazy, man. Damn, I got to congratulate USC on the show?

Yep, you just did. Oh, man. The funny thing is, I was like, I thought you knew something. One and done, Elijah. I thought I did too good. You didn't know. Apparently. One and done.

I know what we're here for. You knew. Tried to strong arm him and blackmail him into going to UCLA. Did not work. But I do get to keep the NIO money. But let's get back to the show. We got to talk some more NBA hoops. So, Knicks beat the Nuggets last night, held Nicole Yoka to 17 points on 6 for 15 shooting

to go along with 6 rebounds and 6 assists. Locking up the MVP candidate, most would assume. But a lot of people say that's good, but one person who was not impressed was Draymond Green. Here's what he tweeted about the Knicks defense on Jokic. He said, Cat, in a full front on Joker, even if you win the game, it don't matter.

You will never hold the respect from an opponent to win at the highest level. Pride must make you sit down and guard, even if you give up 40. Winning is a mindset, and in order to win a championship, you have to win at the highest level. Pride must make you sit down and guard, even if you give up 40. Winning is a mindset, and in order to win a championship, you have to win the mental edge. That's why only a few guys per era

win all the championships. They understand that thing. A lot of people pointed out that Draymond tweeted this. Word's game was like 20 minutes away from starting. Obviously, Draymond's still recovering from his injury, not playing in the game. But is Draymond's criticism of the Knicks' defense on Joker fair? Sound like the same shit Jimmy Butler said before Pat Riley said,

shut your ass up if you ain't out there. Shut your ass up if you ain't out there. What are you talking about, bro? What are you talking about? We won. What are you talking about? Yeah. It's called team. Bro, why are you talking about, bro? What are you talking about? We won. What are you talking about? Yeah.

It's called team. Bro, why you separating the game? Who talking about? Front, we're fronting this tonight. Help on the weak side, fronting it all night. Joker and I get shit, he has 17 points. Something work. What is Draymond talking about?

You give up 40. Well, I mean, are you gonna do that on a consistent basis I mean it's or if you delete you looking at how we defended them I agree I want to look at how I want to try that down the line which could be a game plan for other teams but I mean it's one game so that's what I'm saying can you do that consistently depending on who we play I guess I mean right you got that consistently? Depending on who we play, I guess. I mean, right, you've got to change the scheme depending on who you play. But I know against, I'm sure they probably figure,

with this scheme, we found something. If we meet them, we're rolling with this. We're rolling with this. You're going to have to just be, you know, I think just for them, they found something. That was beautiful. Beautiful. So that tweet is a distraction.

He's trying to stir some shit up because it don't make no sense. So Cemetery Larry, we know that you are a Knicks fan. You made the move. That's his team too, so. But who's your team at the Western Conference? Denver. So do you feel like this was a preview of things to come?

Absolutely. As soon as I sit down and watch this. But y'all want Joker to get his 40? Like people want Joker to win MVP so bad You telling people not to do team defense. That's crazy. It's crazy That's crazy. Hey, come on if I give her 40 so we're so be it But yeah, cuz if he played one-on-one he's more dangerous Now at the same time. Yeah, but what you just can't move the team defense backside

We let you know one-on-one shit. You're in the league, everybody. Yeah. You don't want him to win any of these? Do I want Joker to win any of these? Yeah, you think he should win? I really could care less. Thank you, Cheryl. I think SGA got it this year.

I hope SGA get it, but... I mean, I ain't gonna lie. Like, you know, people, like, I don't watch the WNBA. I don't really watch the NBA like that. Wow. Damn, that's crazy. She should. Yeah, you shouldn't, though.

I like that. Because I'm the same way when it comes to y'all. But it's not for any reason. I don't watch it right now because it doesn't really. It don't. That's what I'm saying. It ain't got no oomph to it. It ain't got no oomph to it right now.

It doesn't. It doesn't. You watch the WNBA? Depends on who's playing. Oh, yeah, she gonna watch her league. That she dominated? Yeah, of course. I would, too.

But it also depends on who's playing. If it's two teams where I'm like, this ain't gonna be a good game, I don't watch it. Yeah. But as far as who wins MVP, I mean it. Do you feel like whoever wins the finals MVP is the best player in the league? The finals?

No. No. No. No. No. I'm just asking because Giannis said whoever takes home the trophy and wins finals MVP is the best player in the league. No.

No. Why not? So when you were going and you were winning, you wasn't the best player in the league? I didn't always win finals MVP. When you did. I wasn't regular season MVP, which means you're the best player in the league to me.

Mm. But you're talking about the finals. Like, it's how... What is that, five games? Seven games. Yeah. It's just seven games. Yeah, like, anybody can have a good five games where you're better than everybody else,

but can you do that throughout the season where you're better than a whole lot of players? Do you think it is if you win finals MVP? I mean, I just think it's the highest level that you're going to get in competition. So this is the, if it takes me four games to win it all, I'm going to show you that I'm the best in front of everybody. I don't care what the situation is.

You're the best in the final. In that moment. I'm the best. There's no other moment higher than the NBA finals, right? So when it's time. But that doesn't make you the best player in the NBA. The NBA is everybody. Eagle Dallas is better than everybody on the floor in that finals. No, Giannis, I mean, I'm just saying Giannis said it.

So I'm just saying, not the NBA player who's won it, who's done it, said... But he was the best player in the league. Yeah, he was the best player in the league. Yeah, right, it's different for him. He was the best player in the league, so for him, it's easy. And here's the, multiple MVPs, finals MVP. Who? Giannis. A staple of the MVP, finals MVP. Who? Yannis.

Staple, the Greco-Nigerian community. Just asking. You know? Go back to Draymond's criticism of the Knicks defense on Joker. Do you think it's fair? Do you agree with what Dray's saying? Or, no, you're not the biggest fan of defense, but... Who won the game?

The New York Knicks. That's all that matters, right? I mean, the only way we know if it'll really work is if we see them in the playoff series. If they can do it consistently against us. Did Minnesota do that to them? Did they expose them? They didn't front. Did he bring this to them?

They were happy. That's what I'm trying to see. That's what I'm trying to see. I don't think they ever tried it before. Draymond didn't appear to be a fan of it. A fan of it. Yeah. Caffron and Joker. But my thing is like, what does that have to do with Draymond?

Former defensive player of the year. He's in the NBA, so he's the only one that no one criticizes. He's here big. Power forward. I mean. Do you like my guard, Joker? Yeah. He's the one that says, oh man, Joker's so big, he has such a load on him.

Mmm. He did it. He did. Yes, he did. That was crazy. I said, boy, you better leave me alone. Man, I don't want to talk to you no more. So, Shaw, you said you got the Nuggets-Knicks as your finals prediction.

So, as for the Joker himself, he witnessed the Knicks firsthand last night. New York swept the season series against the Nuggets. What'd he say? So, Jalen Brunson had 30 points, 15 assists. OG Ananobi had 23 points. And the Big Bodega had 14, 10, and 5. After the game, Jokic said he thinks the Knicks are top five candidates for the title. Hmm.

So, Swaggy, we'll start with you, because I already know what Cemetery Larry is going to say, but you agree with the Joker calling the Knicks a top five title contender? Mm, I can see that, because there's only really... Hey, man, you picked the Knicks. ...two teams that could win the championship, I feel like, this year.

The first. Who are those two teams you feel like that could win the championship? Boston and OKC, really. I don't see, you say top five, you could put fucking, yeah, it's by default. I feel like the Knicks are in there by default. Really? Yeah. In the top five? In the top five by default. I feel like the Knicks are in there by default. Really? Yeah. In the top five?

In the top five by default. So we're not playing well? I'm just saying. Top five by default. I'm asking. I just asked a question. You guys are playing well. But it's by default.

We playing well by default? How is it by default? How we play well by default? Because they're not going to win, but they're in the top five. You know the Knicks are not winning the championship. I know. I believe in my heart that the Knicks... And I'm willing to bet anything on that. By default?

Yes. Because Cleveland is in there. Cleveland... By default. They got a better chance than New York. You don't think the Knicks are better than Cleveland? Who? The Knicks are better... No.

Ooh. The Knicks are better than Cleveland? Ooh, the Knicks better than the Clippers? Ooh, the Knicks. Brunson. Were Brunson and Kane? Mobley, Mitchell, Garland. No, no, no.

Allen. No, no. Brunson, no. Well, if they're better than them, why they ain't got a better record? Playoff Brunson. Playoff Brunson. Are we going to the record? New York loses to fucking Indiana.

Brunson wasn't better than Hounsboro. What? Hounsboro? Whatever the nigga named. Halliburton. Come on, come on, man. Charlie Taylor Hounsboro. Their whole team was in there. But who did Indiana have? They had their whole squad, right? Who was that? Name somebody on Indiana

besides Hounsboro. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam.

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Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam. Siakam Yacob Turner. I remember Nick. I had like six players. DJ McConnell.

Remember they was playing 48 minutes? Yeah, man. Who's on Indiana better than Jay LeBron? They were playing. Who's on Indiana better than Jay LeBron? Nobody. Thank you. They played 48 minutes the whole playoffs.

They were tired as shit. So they're not going to play another 48? No, they got their players back. They got players, bro. Who they got? They got Cubs. They got Bridges. Bridges came over. They got players, bro. Who they got? They got subs. They got Bridges. Bridges came over.

They got the big boy. He's going to play 48. No, they got subs. They didn't have subs last year. They don't sub. We acting like they're going to sub. Let's just be real. Bronson going to play the same amount of minutes as last year.

Subs. But they can sub. He did, though. If they need to sub, they got the pieces. They can sub. Who are they going to sub for? McBride. And he got hurt, too, got the pieces to sub. They can sub. Who they gonna sub for? McBride.

And he got hurt too, right? McBride. Look, like I said, Jalen Bronson was better than everybody in Indiana. And they lost. Yeah, but you can't do it by yourself. But he had the Jason Hart. Wasn't it Hart? Mm-hmm.

The dude from, he got traded to OKC. I mean, got picked up by OKC. Hanna Stein. Hanna Stein. That's the same thing as Turner. That's the same thing. Dante. Hanna Stein.

They equal out. They don't equal out? They don't equal out to Siakam, Turner, Halliburton, and all those young guys over there, bro. Devin Fuju, whatever his name is. Dante. Dante. Who was the fourth man? OG. He was hurt. He was hurt. man? OG. He was hurt.

He was hurt. But he played. He was hurt the whole time, bro. How many games did he play, OG play? None. He got hurt in that series. Doing a duck on a fast break. Thank you.

Come on, man. Fuck. It's the same shit. What's the same shit? He got hurt game three. It was one. Do you know what game three was? Do you know what game three was?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I on, man. Fuck. It's the same shit. What's the same shit? He got hurt game three. It was one. Do you know what?

Do you know what? Before he got hurt. Honeysun, Hart, Devin Vicenzo, Dale Lebronson got better than Turner, Highborough, and fucking O'Connor. They were 2-0. They were 2-0. He got hurt in game three. They lost.

You're talking about DeVincenzo, Hart, and who else? Jalen Brunson and the dude from OKC. They're not better than them. Harkestown, right? Now listen to the news. The new squad is Cat, OG, Bridges, Jalen Brunson.

That's a better squad than Harkinstein. What place they was in last year? There was a two, right? Who was the two? There was two last year. The Knicks were two. What place are they this year? Three. We got a chance to be two. And we got a chance to be in two. We got a chance to be in the same position.

But I feel like they're not getting packed. And we got better players. You don't think they like that because of the trade, though? Remember that trade? better players. They're not getting packed. And we got better players. We got better players, bro. Yo, you don't think they like that because of the trade, though? Remember that trade, that swap kind of... It was big, bro. Cat killed last night. Cat killed last night. What happened when they played Boston this year? How much did they lose by?

50 or 30 or some shit like that? It was a big loss. Let's just stop playing, man. Boston lost big, too. Boston lost big? Boston lost big? Who did Boston just lose big to? Right. Nobody. They lost to the Kings.

They lost to the Kings. Warriors just beat Boston. Warriors just blasted Boston. Warriors beat Boston. Kings beat Boston. What are you talking about? No, they didn't. Yes, they did.

The Warriors didn't beat Boston. No, Warriors did not beat Boston. Beat the Warriors by 50. Yeah, I'm about to say that. That's the shit I'm talking about. That's another thing. Jason Tatum can never win because he's blowing everybody out by 30 and shit. He can't win MVP.

He can never win. He sit out the whole fourth quarter. Like I said, they're going to be top five by default. Nobody beating Boston or OKC. So Boston OKC finals? Swaggy, so who's the top five contenders in your mind? With the Knicks being fifth. The Lakers beat the shit out of the Celtics.

Yes. That's who it was it was Lakers We knew that though All right, so outside of the main two that's gonna be in the finals three the OKC and Boston Uh-huh. I would say Cleveland and The Knicks by default. These teams are by default. They're not going to make it, but you're just putting five teams in there. Knicks, Cleveland, and Dallas if Luka get right. If Luka get right, I'm going to put OKC in there. Dallas, Illinois West? Uh-huh. He said top five.

He said top five contenders. So he said OKC. He said the Knicks by default. He said Boston, Cleveland, and Dallas. That's the only five teams that could win the championship this year. Who you got? If Luka is Luka's back, that's what I'm saying. Knicks, Boston, Denver. If Luca is Lucas back, that's what I'm saying Nicks Boston Denver

Houston Yep, not yet Houston and the books Both gonna make a run. They hungry. And they still experienced. And we're about to get Zach LaVey. I'm going to rock with H-10. When you think about the teams that's out there, you're like, what, Boston, Milwaukee, Denver.

And then you look at these young teams that's playing good. You can walk them down. You can walk them down. If you're Milwaukee, we want to play any of these young teams, and we'll walk them down. You want to play New York and all them, but you don we want to play any of these young teams, and we'll walk them down. You want to play New York and all them, but you don't want to play Boston. If I'm the Bucs. We want you every year.

If I'm the Bucs, I want to see Boston at the Eastern Conference. I want to make sure we there so they can do what they got to do. But if we get Zach Levine, we got action. It's over. Yeah, if you get Zach Levine, you got action. No defense, just getting... Fucking overplayed players. You got over there. This shit crazy.

Look at this. We got to outscore. We better score. We better put that thing in the hoop. Well, we play defense. I don't know what y'all talking about. Shit, if we get Zach, we move into the top five. L.A. Lakers? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Shit. Not even close. No, no. Not close? That's not a need for y'all. Y'all don't need me. Oh, my God, yeah. Like him.

You think you'll win with Dane Leonard, Zach Levine, and Giannis. If you won with Drew Holiday, Middleton, and Giannis. And a good Middleton. And P.J. Who you got in your top five title contenders right now? Top five? One, two, three, four, fifth. Boston.

Stupid. Boston. Stupid. Boston. Thank you. Denver. I don't see Denver this year. Um... Damn. To me, they're asking Joker to do too much this year. Boston, Denver.

You're missing a team. That's what I said by default, though. You got to put some teams in the fire. I'll go with, uh, Bucks. What by default, though. You got to put some teams in the fire. I'll go with Bucks. What? Oh, shit. I'll go with Bucks. I forgot about the Bucks.

I'll go Lakers Clippers. Good job, Gil. So you have the Clippers in your top five, despite them being the Clippers that you said earlier in the show. It's all match-ups, right? So you have the Clippers in your top five, despite them being the Clippers, as you said earlier in the show. It's all match-ups, right? If you can match up against the right team, you know, like, if we didn't match up against Denver,

we feel we could have, right? So it's all match-ups. It's okay. See, do what they did in the damn play-in. Now, if Bucks, I mean, you know, Bucks has Giannis, right? And there's no Miami, so hopefully he don't get hurt. There's no other team that has a counter for him, so as long as he's healthy,

he's just gonna walk through his rounds. And then you add Dame and you know Whatever they pitch in so it's gonna probably be Him in the Eastern Conference depending on where they land Cleveland hmm not walking through Cleveland leaving this out of here mobile. We in Allen. That's all even is out of here in the play This is that's a 82 game. That's the 82 game team mobile. You gonna lock this 82 games Cleveland is out of here in the playoffs. That's an 82-game team. Mobley going to lock that shit up. 82 games.

Mobley locking that shit up. That's like Suns back in the day. That shit looked good. Yeah, that shit looked good. But that shit, that ball is going to start feeling like a brick. Playoff is different. They couldn't even win a road game against Orlando last year. Where did they go last year? They played against Orlando.

But where did they end up? They played against Orlando. They played against Orlando. And went seven games. Seven games, and they didn't win in Orlando. What conference did they lose in? What star did Orlando... Did they make it to the Eastern Conference Finals? Who did they play against in Orlando?

Who did Boston play in the Eastern Conference Finals? Oh, Indiana. Indiana. They played Indiana. What I'm saying is, who was the best player? Indiana. Who was the best player in Orlando that they Whatever name not be Carol color follow follow he called he called What is he doing? No, no, no. Mobley is an all-star this year. You got three all-stars on one team. I'm like, who?

No, he is. You got three all-stars on one team. He is, but what's going to happen in April and May? Who? I said, what's going to happen in April and May with that team? Like I said, you got three all-stars on one team. But what's going to happen in April and May? Tyler, Ben, Carol, Pete, Carol.

It do sound, honestly. Mobley is a different It do sound, it do sound, honestly. Mobile is a different thing. Honestly, it do sound. You got two bigs. You got a mobile, you got two mobile bigs. It do sound close. Who we say, Bancaro? Paolo Bancaro and Pete Carroll.

Who you say? Pete Carroll. It do sound close. Pete Carroll. Say it all together. USC legend. Paolo P. Carroll. Say it all together. USC legend. Paolo P. Carroll. Say it all together.

Paolo P. Carroll. Just put that on a T-shirt. Paolo P. Carroll. Paolo P. Carroll. Sound like a restaurant. Say it all together. So, Nick, your top five. Paolo P. Carroll.

Your top five. Say it all together. It's one word. Paolo P. Carroll. Paolo P. Carroll. Paolo P.. It's Apollo B. Carroll. Apollo B. Carroll. Apollo B. Carroll. Apollo B. Carroll. Something in the game.

Apollo B. Carroll. Oh, shit. So, Nick, your top five title contenders. OKC, Boston, Cleveland, Nixon, the Bucs, I believe, right? We asked the chat if they agree with your top five. I didn't say Bucs. What did you say? Who was your fifth team? Yeah, who was your five. I didn't say books. What'd you say? Who was your fifth team?

Yeah, who was your fifth? I said Cleveland. Cleveland. New York. Yeah, Maverick was your fifth. Yeah, that was. So it's 50-50 split. 50-50 split right now in the chat.

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I have been lit. So let's talk a little bit about Warriors. Warriors have been struggling lately, but last night they picked up a huge win over the West's top seeded Thunder. Let's take a look at some of the highlights. He said, Pacho Benchero. Oh, are you hungry? Hello, Pete Carroll.

You feel on that? That was three minutes. Sound like a fucking burrito. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here.

Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair!

Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair!

Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! Get out the fucking chair! 50-point game in the last week. SG had 21 points in the first quarter, outscoring the Warriors by himself, as they only had 20. Warriors got a balanced effort from their squad. Andrew Wiggins stepped up, led the team with 27 points.

He was 10 for 17 from the field, 5 for 8 from 3. Steph Curry had 21 points, going 6 for 15 from the field, and 5 for 10 from 3. Back and forth game. Under tried to close the gap, but 30 said, he's still got a little bit left. War down. The war down. Did his thing.

Damn. And GP said Harkestan. Scratch the dome. Don't get this. What? Great win for the Warriors. They're second over the Thunder this season. But was the win over OKC enough to convince you that the Warriors don't need to make a trade?

Hell no, they still need to make a trade. They are still mad. Good win, though, but they still need to make a trade. We need something, because that boy over there, 30, dying. They need to make three, four, five, six trades. Help me. Help me. Yeah, that brother's starving. Oh, yeah, yeah.

He is starving. Nice to see, that brother's starving. Oh, yeah. He's starving. He is starving. Nice to see the Warriors get a win. No Draymond Green, no Kaminga. He said he didn't need no help. He wanted to save the organization. Let's not win now. Who said that?

Steph. He said, let's not save the organization. Let's not win now. Let's not win now? Let's not win now. Don't mortgage our future to make a win now trade. So just keep going? Keep losing.

I think, but they were saying for a bad trade, don't be desperate. You know, don't show up to the club and just go home. But what's a good trade? Like, they're not saying anything that they would want. Like, what would fit them? Like, why is no rumors of, it seems like nobody's making no type of moves. Right, right. So because we're hearing Jimmy wants to go here or, know bill is something like exactly we're not hearing anything though

So the words that mean I've been named as one of the teams in the Jimmy Butler sweepstakes But if previously said they don't want to mortgage their future for when now move With Jimmy Butler be worth dealing for if you're the Warriors would that be something that could entice the squad to make a run? Look, it's a very tight Western Conference. Only a few games separates. About, you know, fourth from tenth. Do they win a championship with Jimmy Butler?

Do they win a championship with I mean, I guess that's the real question. Like, the team they have now. If you keep the team they have now and you can just add Jimmy Butler, is that team good enough

to win a championship? If the answer's no, then... Probably not. So then they're not in position to say, all right, we're going to bring

Jimmy Butler and lose pieces. If we can keep this team and add Jimmy, does it help us? I think if I was a young player... Well, shit, I mean, I just thought about it. They won with... That's what I'm saying. this team and add Jimmy, does it help us? I think if I was a young player, I'd get out there. I just thought about it.

They won with, that's what I'm saying. Think about it. They won with. No, no, fuck that. I know what Jimmy Butler took to the championship. And if he got Curry. That's it. But that's not in real, that's not.

Draymond's going to come back and play. They're going to have to lose something. So what they're losing and getting back, is the championship ready? If not, you still got to. But if I'm committed, I'm going to have to lose something. So, you know, what they're losing and getting back is a championship ready. If not, you still got to. But if I'm committed, I'm going to have to have it. So then you just stay with what you got and then you just have bad years like them Kobe years? Steve Kerr don't develop young guys good. Steve Kerr was taking out Steph in the third.

Do you see he was taking Steph out yet? Like, what is he doing? Like, they done had it. They done had it. He don't know what he's doing. He don't care. He don't care. Like, Steph got he's the one. He don't care. Like, Steph got it going, and he takes Steph.

He overcoached a lot to me, I feel like. He followed the, you know, the index card. Yep. Yeah, he one of them. But even with, like, think about the They telling him what the fuck to do. Hey, hey. Better follow that damn form.

Like, he ain't good mad. He's been following that damn form. He can't grow. What's the top three pick they had? The big fella they got rid of? Wiseman. Wiseman. Well, that was a bad pick because they should have picked LaMelo Ball.

But they didn't even give him a chance. They didn't even give him a chance. So he could have refused to play him. He's throwing down our offense. You got to get up and down the court. He was moving, though. He was moving, though. Huh? Wasn't moving fast enough. We got Jabell McGee. He'll show you how to move up and down the court. He was moving, though. He was moving, though. Huh? He wasn't moving fast enough.

We got Jabril McGee. He'll show you how to move up and down. He wasn't playing that McGill. It was Kevin Maloney. Yep. You got to move faster than him. But even with Kaminga, then, he's frustrated. Get out.

Get out. I mean, I think, honestly, I think the whole thing is just a mess. Ever since they let Klay go, you can't fix it. It's frustrated. Get out. Get out. I mean, I think, honestly, I think the whole thing is just a mess. Ever since they let Klay go, you can't fix it. It's done. Before that. You can stick up for that. They got to start over. Oh, well, before that.

It was a mess before Klay. Yeah, it was the punch. The punch heard around the world. So you guys had a chance to go get that fifth ring. Punch, it's over. Yeah. It's over. They need to start over.

Like, it's clearly over. They could have went back to back, to be honest. No, they were going to go's clearly over. They could have went back to back, to be honest. No, they were gonna go back to back. They could have went back to back. They were gonna go back to back. Oh, boy, just got his money, feeling good. Let's keep doing the same thing again. Probably pick up a new piece along the way.

Play would have been probably playing better. Probably read up. Read up after that. That's no different than any other dynasty. No, I know. It always ends bad. It gotta end. Probably read up. I don't think so. Read up after that. It's not different than any other dynasty. No, I know. It always ends bad. It gotta end. It gotta end.

I mean, there's only there's only a few people who was leaving the game with championships. And, you know, when MJ did, it's not like they wanted to. Right? They wasn't done.

Right. They was forced. Like, we're not bringing y'all back. We moving in a different direction after they won three championships. Damn. So They was forced, like, we're not bringing y'all back. We moving in different direction after they won three championships. Damn. That's sick.

So he was like, Phil Jackson's fired. I don't give a fuck what he do. And Michael Jordan said, if he's gone, I'm gone. And that's how that dynasty ended. So there's no real... I mean did Kareem leave on a chip? Right? And it's just, when you're getting old, you're getting old.

We see LeBron. Yeah. We see Kevin Durant, so it's like... So just let it just ride out. Right? Maybe something might especially happen for them where, you know, you got a free agent that just says, man, fuck all this and I come over there

in the summer, take a pay cut and it puts you back in there. But there's really nothing you can do without sacrificing all your young pieces to try to win

in the next two years before stuff goes wrong. Go get Kevin Durant. I was about to say Katie. I was just about to say that. Let's go get Katie. I was just about to say that. I was just about to say that. Let's make it happen.

Yeah. Y'all meet you and Draymond. Who's free to sign? Is there any big free agents? Or, hey, look, Draymond can take his ass on. We go get KD. We go get somebody that can do what Draymond do. I go get KD, Bobo, and somebody else.

Who's a big free agent? Won't KD go get Draymond? Kyrie has a player option. Bron has a player option. Who right, Ron has a player option Brandon Ingram Jimmy Butler has a player option Turner Grandma could go to the lake coming to restore my Phoenix don't they need to be the good His game is not the same. I don't think he can move. I think he could 10. So nobody's up.

They can't do anything. Little deal. There's no free agent that's really up. I think Draymond's, I think his body's taking a lot of beatings. I think he's done. He's like that guy that can help. You know who he's been guarding his whole career? 300 pounds.

Clear up shit for like Bill and Book. He could. He could. He could. He could. He could. He could. He could.

He could. He could. He could. He could. He could. He could. Hester. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster.

He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster.

He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He's like a hipster. He was saying KD. Oh, the Warriors. Oh, KD go to the... No, they said that. Oh, Draymond. And I said,

what if Draymond go to Phoenix? The fun they got to do with the Warriors. We talking, not you. We were talking about if KD went to the Warriors and then it would be a trailer. Every day you want to...

What they got to do with... How would that be executed? What is that got to do with... We're trying to talk... We're talking... Curry. It doesn't. They went on something else.

We're talking about making a move. For Curry. No, for... No. The Warriors. Yeah. We're talking Curry. It doesn't. They went on something else. We're talking about making a move. For Curry. No, for... The Warriors. Yeah. We're talking about the Warriors. Mm-hmm. Making a move to get KD.

You're talking about the Warriors. I think we were talking about the Warriors. Okay. You just gonna tell us what we're talking about. What do the Warriors have that Phoenix would want besides Steph Curry? So, the Warriors... What'd you say again? Hmm?

What'd you say again? What'd you... Take it for him. The Warriors have... No, no, I gotta... I gotta kick that out. I gotta get you... What'd you say again? What'd you say again? What'd the words have to do with it? I got to kick that out. I got to get you back on the road. You and Joe talk. Because I was getting ready to chime in and say, oh, you mean a Draymond game?

They say like a Bradley Bill for Kaminga and Draymond. Yeah. That still don't mean we're going to win. And it's not a great trade, but on paper... That's a great trade for the Suns. It helps for the Suns.

That's what he was saying. That's what he was saying for the Suns, like trying to get the Suns... Instead of... Trying to get Draymond down to the Suns to play with KD.

But do they get... No, I thought you were saying something like KD, Draymond, and Kaminga switch. Nah, he was saying... And then Steph and... Steph, Curry, and Wiggins... He was saying what would the Suns look like if Draymond went down there to help KD? I don't, and Kaminga switch. Nah, he was saying... And then Steph Curry and Wiggins...

What would the Suns look like if Draymond went down there to help KD? I don't know. We don't... That's what he was saying. I don't know if Draymond can still go. You might have to change that question because I think they like the Suns better. So change it.

Change it. Do what makes sense. Just say, instead of going to say... Instead of the Warriors, instead of saying Warriors, say Suns. Because it seems like all the trades are making this for the sons. So just say that over again, but use sons instead of daughters.

Why the fuck you, man? Motherfucker, I got the twitching and shit. This motherfucker the sons. That's why I'm trying to click it back. Let me just go to sleep. Oh, my gosh. Talk to me for the rest of the show. Please pray for me.

I know y'all think hosting is easy, but I'm sure. Like me on his side. I'm going to be on his side. It's an adventure. Let's talk SGA real quick. So last night he became the only player with multiple 50-point games this season. He's just the third player in OKC history with multiple 50-point games, joining KD and Russ.

SGA currently leading the league in scoring at 32.5 points per game, also averaging six assists, 5.2 rebounds on 53-35-90 shooting splits. Is SGA in the driver's seat for MVP? We've seen Nick's lockup, Jokic, last night. Yeah, for sure. Now he's back. And that performance last night was personal. I think he heard what Steph's sister said.

You know, her little broadcast. What'd she say? No, nothing bad. They were just joking about how SGA come into town and always throwing shots at Steph when they be playing. Yeah, but it's like, you know, it's competitive. What'd he say? I mean, yeah, competitive.

Nah, it's like, you know, like... Let me see how competitive. Now, you know, like, how SGA does his captions and, like, he rap about, like, certain things, so I guess one of his captions was about Steph. He hit a shot over Steph. So it was, like, one of those, and they was talking about it. But it's, like, it's out of respect, too. 31 at the half. Shit.

Oh, no, it's gonna be personal from here on out. 31. Well... Did he win? You know, I don't know. No, he didn't win. He won. He didn't win, but that's what I mean. I'm about to say, he won, yeah, he won. I mean, if I'm trying to get MVP, I mean, I'm going to go with him.

He won? That's all y'all care about? Ask Brandon who won the game. The Warriors won. The Warriors won. He won. No, for sure. He won.

The Warriors won. But, no, because in the era when all people care about is stats. The loser gets 50. Uh-huh. and we win about 30 You think we talk about that 50 ages? We are we talking about the 50 be oh we have Talk about Joker we talk about 50 we talk about 50 because for one the number one in the West and he just did it again So that's look. Yeah this time but it's like... So it's next.

It's fast forward on the TV. We don't care about that. You lost. Yeah, what is he averaging the last five... We put stats and all that shit over winning. You can't use that as stats for him. But they are winning. Joker is number one, and he in the fourth spot.

They are winning. They're number one. Yeah. And he ain't got nothing. But we are glorifying the stats that he just had on a losing effort. No, we're glorifying his stats that he just had. I'm not losing effort. No, we're glorifying his performance because he's been playing well and they've been winning. Yeah, they talk a lot, but I'm cooking everybody.

But don't we glorify his stats now, though? Because why would Joker be number one? SGA last six games, 40.6 assists, four rebounds. So that's stats. 40.6 assists. Last six games. Four rebounds last six games. Averaging 40.

And we're winning. 250 pieces in that. So what would make SGA, if he wasn't averaging 30, would he be a candidate? You said move along. Would he be a candidate if he wasn't averaging 30? Yes, he's won because all we care about is stats. If he was averaging 22, if he was averaging 22, would he be MVP Kennedy? No, he'd be like Jason Taylor. So if Joker was averaging 17 points,

16 rebounds, and 13 assists... But you just said, didn't he win? ...he would still be in the MVP race. He would still be considered the MVP. I mean, he's averaging a triple-double. Because he's averaging a triple-double. So if this guy, if he's not averaging 32 a game, he not even considered to be in the race at all.

But triple-double is stats. He's got to average 30 32 a game, he's not even considered to be in the race at all. He's got to average 30 points a game for us to consider him to be. Joker is always going to be covering the bases for MVP conversation every year. Him and Giannis. Him and Giannis every year. If he's not averaging 30,

Giannis is going to be there. It's him and Giannis right now. Giannis is having to break out here and he's ain't even in the conversation He averaging 30 if you bring that number down to 28 You know what it really is to like like if you look at uh, I mean roses numbers when he won the MVP It was it wasn't it wasn't better. I know What stood out is his what he was

doing last five minutes of every game. Look, it looked great. So, you know, with Shea,

the optics is going to have to play a part because Jokic just when you think about Jokic, you think about everything he's doing.

So there's going to have to be moments of greatness of greatness. Like we ain't never seen to be moments of greatness. Of greatness. It reminds us of shit. It was like, yo. Scoring 50, 40, this and you win by 30.

We've seen it. When Curry was doing it, right? Think about that year. It's the look of it. It's how it looked. It looked like he was out there just burning everybody up. 24.

Like, you know, that was the year James Harden should have had it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But... But... And James was averaging like 30...

Was it 35? 35? Dwight Howard was gone. It was the year Dwight was gone. Yeah. Right? But it was what Steph

was doing. And it was second. It was second. I think he averaged 29. Yeah. But what... How Steph made it look... That's I've been saying about it. Yeah the whole time. She has this thing is to is to Consistent think about it. He's consistent with this 30 every night. We know he gonna get 33 30 But Joker's giving you this three categories he's giving you consistently over one. He needs to have one of the moments that Steph had when he made them shots in the KC.

Like when Brunson in the playoffs. That's a moment. This shit looked impressive, what he was doing. Right? It's one of those where he's like 50, 48, 50, 48. Like that 30, we're so used to him scoring 30, we 48, 50, 48. Like, that 30, that is... We're so used to him scoring 30, we're just like, eh. We need a month that you average it. We need a month that you average it.

It's just 40, 45. Or you'd like to have a joker. You'd not like to have a joker. But we are. He's been seeing what he's doing. He just had a month. He just had last month. He was killing, crazy.

Remember, Shea's in front of him right now. I was about to say. But Shea's going to have to have, Shea's in front of him right now. How about that? But that's what I said. But they need. But Shea's going to have to have. Shea's going to have to have. You need a couple more fifties. Uh huh.

Probably hit a 60. Yeah. Get like a game winner. Two triple game winners. A game winner. Triple double. He is still average 30. But the look of.

We're going to be like, oh, shit. He killing out here. Yeah. The swag of it. Everything. Bro, when Steph hit them threes on OKC, when he came back to back and he was coming down. He was going to be like, oh, shit, he's killing out here. The swag of it, everything. I'm telling you, bro, when Steph hit them threes in OKC, when he came back-to-back and he was coming down. He was going to win it regardless.

SGA 45 games this season. It was over. It was like, yo, this is different. We need a moment. It just looked different. SGA 45 games this season, they only have one game under 20 points. One game under 20 of his 45. That's figuring it out.

Like D-Rose MVP. You know what the machine is, man? I'm getting four points a quarter Four points of the rock 30 bro four points To every number one by a landslide, but I gotta have fucking moments to win MVP. This is crazy, bro. That's why the MVP going down. Nick, how do you sound when you talking about Joker, bro?

You sound crazy. He's in the fourth seed. He is covering three categories, Nick. He's not just scoring the ball. You talking about scoring. I mean, name the top ten bigs and the top ten point guards that Shea got to go up against, and name his team, at OKC team.

What's stopping him from getting more rebounds than assists? Name his team. Nothing. Who's better? Other people better than Dork. That's if he has a ball in your hand. Nothing. He's the point guard.

Look, Joker is not the point guard. Is Murray better than Dork? Dork. Who? Lou Dork. Lou Dork. You're using wins as using stats using stats. I'm using team you using team They're using

Yes, don't both matter who's been on if my team look you but you're arguing in here in front right now You know you're right now technically I don't want it shouldn't be no argument Why not because say averaging a bunch of points MVP you'll get your average in this season. How much is she average? How many you'll get you's averaging? So say first I'll give it to you. Yes. Guess I gotta break it down a little bit more. 32.5. So he's averaging 32. But now what is Jokic averaging? So Shay, 32.5, six assists, five rebounds. Okay.

Jokic is at, is dipped a little bit because of the game. 30 points, 13 rebounds, 10 assists, averaging a triple-double. Come on, bro. He's averaging 41 rebounds. Five more rebounds, five more assists. What are you talking about?

30, 13, fourth. He's in center position. And he's fourth, so Shea is going to be in front of him. He's going to be a close second. But the problem is, and he's playing well. Shea's only had one game under 20. And how many has he been on sports? I'm about to kill him right here.

Nick, if I'm the heavyweight champion of the world. Think about what I'm saying. When you're talking about a runaway, he's running away with it. How many times has he been on SportsCenter? How many times? No, I'm just talking about the player itself. But I'm saying for him to beat a dude, you can't beat him by

little votes. You gotta beat his ass. You gotta knock him out. If he's the champion, it ain't no draw. It ain't no draw. I'm a three-time MVP. You got to wipe me. Yes, bro.

You know how it is. What was the stats last year? 26. 26, 13, and 9, right? 30. And I'm the reigning champ. And Shay's averaging one more point. And he averaging one more rebounds.

I mean assists. No, he's averaging five more points, two more rebounds. Like, it's different. Field goal percentages are higher. I points, two more rebounds. Like, it's different. Field goal percentages are higher. I've seen that three years in a row with Westbrook. But what I'm saying... He's only got one MVP. So what? But what I'm saying...

God damn. No, you got to think about it. His plus... And he was on the Wizards. No, but I'm saying it's his plus... Averaging triple-double. His plus this season is higher. That's why I say,

you can't go to the decision. It's like a boxing match. You can't go... We've seen the champ get his ass whooped. And you can't go to the decision. It's like a it's like a box and that's a we we got Well, you're like I still chant Never let it go to the decision the optics Has to be better like when they played Denver. He got to go out there and have you the motherfucking 60 or 70. He got to

triple-double or he got to make that motherfucker fall in front of the world. Hit the motherfucker. It has to be something that puts it in his mind. You got to fly to where motherfuckers can walk to. When we think about a highlight with

Shay, what highlight do we... When we think about his name, what do we... What stands out? Solid. He's just solid. What highlight do you think... He's solid. Brandon Roy-type solid. When we think about Ja,

we think about all the motherfucking dunks he did, elbow on weak. There's memory here. There's Roxanne. What is the memory with Shea? He got a fly. So if Ja was doing the numbers, Shea would...

What happened? What's Roxanne? Ja be... I'm just saying, like, when you're talking about, shade. So if Ja was doing the numbers, the SJ was doing? It would be easy. I'm just saying, when you're talking about, I gotta vote for somebody, right? I can remember, he's averaging triple-double. That's easy to remember, triple-double, triple-double, triple-double. When it comes to shade, what is making me, when I'm voting, what makes me say his name? He averaged 30 a game. You got to think of... Think of everybody's stupid.

Nobody's looking at stats and shit. They're thinking about the person themselves. What is making me... What is the difference? What I'm saying is, what is the difference... See, what already?...between, like, what Russ was doing and what Joker's doing? Why didn't he get all this praise and shit? They didn't want to give it to him.

But he did get one. They didn't? But he did get't want to give it to him. But he did get one. But he did get one. But he did get one. He didn't get back to back to back. He did get three in a row. He didn't get three. Because the people who... He on his words to get three.

The people... You gotta fly past him. You gotta do some marketing. He deserved it, bro. He deserved it. You can't just be number one, blowing niggas out after 30. He don't deserve it? No. Oh, not over Shay, no. No, the people voting... It's still early, bro. He deserve it. You can't just be number one. He don't deserve it. Blowing niggas out after 30. He don't deserve it. He don't deserve it? No. No, not over Shay, no. No, the people voting. It's still early, though.

The people voting, right? The people voting is part of the game, too. So when you talk about Russ, and he's sitting there doing interviews, and he's dun-dun-dun-dun-dun, they remember that. He got kicked out the league for averaging a triple-double. Who? Russ. No, what does he mean kicked out the league? averaging a triple-double. Who? Russ. Oh, you got it off note. What does it mean, kicked out the league?

Went to the Wizards. They was frowning. That Patton motherfucker just frowned upon. Hold on, let's try it like this. If Pat Riley has a vote right now, a vote, and he can pick between Jimmy Butler and Tatum on who he going to vote for the MVP, who you think he voting for?

Your relationship matters, too. Absolutely. So if you... So the people... But what did he do? What did Russ do? What I'm saying... How he was dealing with the media back then.

Remember, he don't... He didn't get... Yeah, the media get the vote. The media vote. It's the media vote. What I'm saying, the media vote, your relationship with people

matters, too. If Russ was Austin Reeves, he'd be MVP. No, if Russ was a media... If Russ was... Who with was Austin Reeves, he'd be MVP. No, if Russ was cool with the media back then, if he was cool with the media, he would have been triple-time MVP. Shaking their hands and doing that, how you doing? But that wasn't Russ' style. And Jokic don't do none of that.

He in the middle. He don't create no beef. He don't do nothing. He's just neutral. He answer questions. Same thing with Shade. They're just neutral. I don't like the States. Why didn't Kobe win more. He's just neutral. He answer questions. Same thing with Shane. They're just neutral. You know, I don't like the States.

Why didn't Kobe win more MVPs? Trouble. Trouble, I think. I think, I think. I think that's trouble. I think because he should have. That's 100%. Because of the situation?

Yeah. That hurt him. That hurt him times 10. They didn't want that trophy with the... That stamp on it. So when he went to USA Basketball, and now it's not about Kobe. It's about the world.

And we need him. So he got that USA... Whatever he did, didn't matter no more. Are we going to win or not? Once he won, welcome back. Clean it up. Welcome back. Welcome back, Kobe.

And then there's two championships after that. Welcome back. Welcome back. That was the USA. No, that's a fact. 08. That's a fact. It was 08.

08, welcome back. Yep. Once he won it, back to back after that. When did he win the championship? He won it in 08. 09, 10. 09, 10. 09, 10.

08, 09. Who was the Nike commercial with LeBron? 08. 07, 08. 07, 08. Yeah, there you go. All right, let's move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by Underdog.

Download the app. Use promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. So we got an email question today from Randog G35. What is it? Randog? Randog 35. Excuse me.

Randog. Do you feel foreign players get more leeway and better contracts than Americans in the NBA? Better contracts? Yeah. Do you feel foreign players get more leeway and better contracts than Americans in the NBA? Well contracts? Yeah. Do you feel foreign players get more leeway and better contracts than Americans in the NBA? Well, just better contracts, man. Yeah.

The second part. Max is max. There's no extra. Randolph. But leeway? Probably. You know... Probably.

As far as what? Like bashing. You know, no one really, as the media, no one really bashes the foreign players. But they don't have, I mean, like to be honest, which, when you think about the foreign players, which ones stand out as like an arrogant type towards people? Right?

So like trying to attack them, like they don't do nothing. Yeah. When you think of Jokic, you think here. Luka, like besides just the complaint on the court, off the court, here. Giannis, funny, right? Wimby, you can see he got pushed. I want to talk to you after, have a conversation. They're very nice funny, right? Wimby, you can see he got pushed. I want to talk to you after, have a conversation.

They're very nice people, right? So, you know, trying to throw, you know, trying to throw dirt on them, you know, trying to, like, bash them, it's just like, eh. Are they nice? Yeah. Fucking Americans. Who says that? I don't know. I don't think they nice.

I just think they just, you know, they start talking that shit in another language. I agree with you. Yes, they do. You don't know it? I'm just saying, I don't think they nice. I think they come over here like... American. You ain't gonna understand what I'm saying.

American. So we don't bash the Europeans now? Not on this show. We are supportive of Europeans every single episode of Girl Corrina. Are you sure? He loves them Europeans. Are you sure? Sometimes it's tough love.

We do bash them. I'm going back into the memory bank. Sometimes it's tough love. I heard we don't even really bash. I'm like, wait. Yeah, we do. Giannis went to Hakeem and he traveled every time he caught the ball. It's tough love.

They were bashing Giannis when he first came in. Joker, he can't be marketable for a goddamn cinema. He just don't care. He's unmarketable. Luka. You said Luka fat, overrated. Man, he soft. You know what I'm saying?

Who else? Shakashe and all them. They like, man. B. Shakashe. B. Shakashe. Shakashe. Shakashe. Shakashe. Shakashe. H like, man. Bichache. Bichache. Bichache. Bichache. If you watch this show, you got to just learn. I don't know. I'm trying to figure out

where the bashing comes in. What part of the bashing? No. No, no, no. But to call somebody soft, that's not bashing. Give me an example of bashing so I can compare it. Because you mentioned the $50,000 Hakeem. That bashing you spent you spent $50,000 going to travel. Yeah, that's bashing Mm-hmm. Was it a waste of money? Nope, cuz he actually performed very well. No, he didn't he traveled the first couple preseason games

It's not he's doing that warming. Well now no no no no no we're talking about when he paid that money Yeah, I paid that money then you bashed money. You paid that money then. You bashed him. I paid, I questioned. You bashed him. Hold on. Why are you paying that money to travel, right? It's not bashed. He came into the preseason, first two games.

What did he do? Tried to move. He traveled, right? We haven't seen that move since. That was a year ago. You haven't seen that move since that was a year ago You haven't seen that you haven't seen it either you hear this Travel go The movie put it up on the thing the move so everybody teaching was a Trap just admit you've been bashing in your pants The movie was teaching. They won't put it up on the thing to show everybody. The movie was teaching was a travel.

Just admit you've been bashing the Europeans, bro. You've been bashing the Europeans. Am I bashing the teacher or the student? If I'm telling the student today that was a waste of $50,000, because you're learning to travel. Like, I watched all the videos. When we brought up the Europeans versus the USAs, did he not trash every single one of our European

players outside of the top four? What did I say? Out of the top four. What did I say? We got one, two, three, four. Everybody else, he was like wrong, right, he's wrong. Bash, bash, bash, laughing. Ha, ha, ha, my God.

Bash, bash, bash. That's not bashing? The laughing because you think they were capable enough to beat, that's not bashing. Yeah. I don't think calling somebody soft is bashing. That's not bashing. Tell me what do you think that is when you call that.

But that's going back to when you were saying, like, I can critique your game. To me, if I'm like, that play with Wimby and whoever it was. If I see you soft. Vita Zuba. That's not bashing. That's not bashing. So what is bashing if that's not bashing?

Please give me an example. Bashing is like. He called Tatum soft and shit. The softest, is that bashing? I'm waiting for y'all to give me a bashing, give me bashing examples. He trying to help you like be not soft. We don't bash on the show. We motivate.

Should I put out the counter? I think I should put out the counter. Bashing is like taking something personal and bringing it to, like, the school. Like, if anybody else is playing defense, like, if somebody's, like, if you're pointing out something that actually do it, that's not bashing. So the way Luke was playing defense in the

final and how he called it out, is that bashing? No, that's not bashing. It's not bashing. What is bashing? We're not talking about. Stop telling me what's. So you can only say. That's bashing.

Yes. You agree? Anything negative is bashing. You hear what he just said? Only positive is not bashing. Hold on. Let's go with what he said. Let's go with what he said.

He said saying a 19-year-old is not ready for the NBA is bashing. How is that bashing? That's an emotional comment. And you're bashing? That's an emotional comment. But I don't know how that's bashing. But what if I said he is ready? Because it's not bashing.

So if I said he is ready for the league? So him saying that Bronny is not ready for the league is bashing? No. Or is that his opinion? And it's not a criticism. It's an opinion. And it's not a criticism. And it's not a criticism. No, no, no.

It's bashing when you're going out of your way to talk about a pick and a person that you know. Like, it's like... You're going out of your way to talk about Giannis working with Hakeem Olajuwon in the summertime. It had nothing to do with you.

I said it was a waste of money. It has nothing to do. You're going out of your way to tell everybody he wasted his money. If you said I bashed Hakeem's training, you were correct.

No, you bashed John is learning. No, I bashed his training. You bashed his learning. No. Oh, you're not learning it right. Oh, no, he's not teaching it right.

Whatever the case, you're bashing both of them. No, no, no. You're bashing both of them. I'm bashing the training. If you're bashing my teacher, you're bashing me cuz he's teaching me. No and what you you're not teaching I said it's a waste of money to go over there bashing my teacher Why you talking about my team? It's not your teacher yet. Okay now

Now it's not your teacher Don't go in that club you You're going to get shot the fuck up. That's not bashing you. That's bashing the club atmosphere. If you decide to go in there and your ass catch a couple bullet wounds, I told you so. Right? So if you spent $50,000 to learn a move

and then you try this shit in real time and you travel, I told you so. Ooh. Ooh. I tried to save you $50,000. Counter, come on. Counter. What did you want to counter? I told you to go to college, save you $50. Yeah, come on down there. Would you want to counter? So I told you to go to college, but you didn't you average point three years through a game

Where you tell them now? How my bad? Fucking my fucking format works like bad fucking for Matt He talking about? How am I bashing? That's where the bashing comes in. That's where the bashing comes in. That's where the bashing comes in. When y'all keep directing all the conversation to me and I got to respond opposite of what you think, now I'm bashing.

But you keep asking me the same fucking questions every day. I keep giving you the same fucking answer and I'm not changing it. So I'm bashing because I won't change my answer to yours. No, no. No, no, no. The bashing is this. When new information is given to you and you reject it on purpose. What's the new information? To keep your narrative. What's the new information?

That is what bashing is. No, it's not. Right? Let's say. You just made that up. You just made that up. Let's say you have somebody. You're just making shit up in that up. Let's say you have somebody. You're just making shit up in real time.

Let's say you have somebody in real time, right? And you have a, you got them at 10, right? I think they're going to be 10. And they're 6. You don't accept that. You want to keep pretending that they're 10 because you don't want to be wrong for that moment in time. So you're purposely rejecting new information to change your opinion.

So what that means is it has nothing to do with the... You want to bash them on purpose. You don't like them on purpose. That's where bashing becomes. You have to be able to adjust your opinion. Did you bash the Africans? Did I bash the Africans? Did you bash the South Sudan Africans when you said the shit about the Africans?

What did I say? I don't want to see that little smile on your face, Gilbert. I don't want to see that shit, bro. You caught it real time. That's what he said. Hear me real time. I know. You pulled that. No, you're right he said. Hey, nigga, hear me real time. Man, this is his thing, man. No, you have to.

I know. Somebody texted and said, yo, bastard Africans. Hey, bastard Africans. We had a whole statement on this. That's what somebody texted. We had a whole statement. Bastard Africans. Hey, Rashad. What are you talking about? Rashad.

Then yes. You see what I did? You gave me new information. Well, you didn't give me new information. That's not new information. You lied in real time. What did I lie about? Not bashing them. You said we don't

bash people. What are you talking about? You just asked a question and I answered it. See, that's the difference. We asked the question 20 minutes ago and you said, no, we don't bash. And I answered it. My kids get two stories. So I'm it. My kids get up at 2.40.

Right? So I'm not holding on to the same... I'm not holding on to the same thought process. I got to fly. I got to go up there. You asked me a question. This shit ain't important, right? I thought about it. Yes, I bashed him. Yes. Let me see the map. That's the difference.

New information came in, you change. The Africans was like, I heard you. We got to go. We got to pick his kids up. Cheryl got a flight. I got things I got to do, too. You know, I just worked it up. But it was good.

But it was good. Appreciate everybody on the couch. Cheryl, appreciate you pulling up. Like, he changed my mind on the Bucs. Yeah, you bashed us up. But now? Bashed you at the beginning. I changed my mind.

So I was right. Thank you. Appreciate everybody in the chat. Was right about what? Congratulations to Elijah Arenas on selecting USC for his college. This has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Group. Well, see you all next week.