Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To The WNBA HATING On Caitlin Clark
Episode Date: August 22, 2024Gil's Arena Reacts To The WNBA HATING On Caitlin Clark as Gilbert Arenas as The Gil's Arena Crew break down Caitlin Clark's DOMINANCE following the WNBA's return from the Olympic Break and analyze ano...ther instance of the WNBA hating on the rookie with some nasty work from Skylar Diggins-Smith. They also discuss the heated Rookie of The Year Race between Clark & Angel Reese and debate with superstar deserves the award the most as they are both setting records on the court and taking the W to new heights. Next, Gil & The Crew react to a slim Zion Williamson taking the internet by storm as the former #1 overall pick is reportedly below his college playing weight, sparking a debate if this is finally the year the megastar can avoid injury and put together an All-NBA Caliber season. Finally, Gil's Arena breaks down the state of the Milwaukee Bucks entering the 2024 NBA Season, analyzing Giannis Antetokounmpo's new look jump shot and reacting to Damian Lillard publicly stating that he deserves more respect. With Giannis potentially armed with even more scoring prowess and Dame now comfortable in his new city, Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew debate where the Bucks will finish this season & if Freak Time can find a way to get out of the 1st Round. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Lexie Brown, Brandon Jennings & Rashad McCants Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:08 Gil Doesnt Pick Up His Trash 0:02:59 Hoopers That Are Incredible At 1 Specific Skill 0:11:59 What Is The Best Skill To Have All Time? 0:21:51 Skinny Zion Is Ready To Take Over 0:24:11 Lonzo Ball Is On His Way Back!! 0:40:35 Caitlin Clark & Angel Reese Are Changing The Game 0:53:19 Caitlin Clark For MVP 0:58:53 WNBA Is Hating On Caitlin 1:08:39 Team USA Should've Had Caitlin & Angel 1:24:49 Is Giannis Getting A Jumper??? 1:34:49 Damian Lillard Says He Gets No Credit!! 1:48:48 NBA National TV Games 2:04:12 Gil Challenges BJ to Putt Putt 2:20:52 MostlyFans 2:22:33 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Woo-woo!
We got a full couch today.
How everybody doing?
Brandon, I see you styling with the... Always.
Tough crowd pantaloon eggs.
I don't miss.
Edge tough.
I don't miss.
Even when I'm taking out the trash.
I don't miss. Gotta have it on. Yeah. Even when I'm taking out the trash. I don't miss.
Got to have it on.
OK, even when you take it.
OK, like if you try to throw it in and it hits the floor,
what do you do?
What, the trash?
I go pick it up.
Whoa.
Wait, what?
You leave it there?
I miss.
You leave it?
I miss.
You don't go get your rebound?
No.
Follow your shot, bro. I'm not Dennis Rodman, bro. And my it? I missed. You don't go get your rebound? No.
Follow your shot, bro.
I'm not Dennis Rodman, bro.
My job is to shoot.
Andrew Reese, Andrew Reese.
I toss it, that mother can just blah, blah.
Gotta go get it.
Keep moving.
That's littering.
No, bro, that's trash.
It's trash.
Littering.
That's littering.
That is littering.
That's littering, Gil.
Definition.
I found a loophole in littering.
You found a loophole in everything.
Here we go.
You know how like, okay, so like, especially us, you know how we do it?
We do it. We do it. We do. I found a loophole in littering.
You found a loophole in everything.
You know how, like, okay, so, like, especially us.
You know how we have a lot of trash some weeks?
And the trash man don't come, I don't know what day he's supposed to come.
Thursday.
Wednesday, Thursday.
Thursday is one of these parts.
So, like, we have so much trash, so I go take it and then dump it at, like, the grocery store.
Yeah.
They get mad. Yeah. You got to be sneaky and discreet with it at like the grocery store. Yeah. They get mad.
Yeah.
You got to be sneaky.
You discreet with it.
No, they be getting mad.
Like, you can't dump your trash in our trash.
Like, it's a trash can.
They do.
They do.
It's a trash can.
Like, it's made for trash.
Wait, so you put trash in your car?
Yeah, I put it.
Trash bags?
Yeah, I put the like towels down and put the trash in there.
And then take it.
And then, like, I remember a cop was like, because they caught me,
and it was like, it's a $1,000 fine.
What?
It was like a $1,000 fine.
Throwing trash in a trash can.
Throwing trash in somebody else's trash can.
Throwing trash in your hand.
And then I was like, oh, my God, that is so ironic
because it's the same price as if I just threw it on the floor.
So if I throw it in this person's trash, it's $1,000.
If I throw it right here on the floor, it's $1,000.
So the fact that I'm going to get charged anyway,
I took this shit out, dropped it on the floor,
gave it my ticket, got the fuck out.
Trash.
That's an asshole right there.
You know what I mean?
That's an asshole.
Do you want it in the trash or on the floor for the same $1,000?
It don't matter.
It can't go back in the car.
Choose wisely, nigga.
Yeah, that's crazy.
He's crazy.
He's just complaining about somebody putting trash in the trash.
That is crazy.
Leave it there.
You know how to ruin it.
You're going to hit somebody else in the dumpster.
So basically, if you're going to pay the $1,000, you might as well pay the $1,000 your way.
Your way.
Yeah, pay the $1,000.
Yeah.
I'll not fuck with it.
You're always playing chess.
Don't litter for me.
Don't litter for me. Don't litter for me. Don't litter your way. Your way. Pay the $1,000, yeah.
A lot of folk with it.
Gil, always playing chess.
Don't litter, people.
No, I tell you.
Please don't litter.
Help support our community.
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Sharing wisdom.
So like...
Okay, I'm not even...
Why... I don't like trash in my car. Okay. Most people... So like, okay, I'm not even going to.
Why?
I don't like trash in my car.
Okay.
Most people.
So once I finish a drink, it got to go somewhere.
Oh, my Lord.
Not going to lie.
Well, put it in the trash.
In my car?
I don't have a trash can in my car.
Into a trash can.
Anyway.
Don't want you out of my house.
You have a vanity. Your destination will have a trash can.
You can't wait.
You have a vanity life.
You see the trash can and you're like, eh.
And you know how you have a passenger?
I always throw it out the passenger side.
That's real.
From the driver's side?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Roll that window down.
Throw it out just in case there's a cop or something.
That's courteous.
That's courteous.
That's courteous. I don't want to just throw it in the middle of the throw it in the middle. Throw it out this way. It's in the middle of the street
That's the sidewalk over there. Do you have a vanity license?
To throw it on the curbside then
You gonna do it curbside curbside than roadside. He went to school. He went to school. He went to school. He was in class a little bit.
If you're going to do it, curbside.
Curbside.
I like it.
You can throw it in the bushes.
The bushes is there so you're fruiting stuff.
If you throw it hard enough, though, you're going slow enough.
The gutter's right there.
I know y'all play basketball like that.
The gutter's right there, and you're moving fast,
and you've got to throw it right here so it slides.
Y'all don't play games, ah! You miss your crash.
You miss your crash.
Ah, shit.
Another productive day in Gilmer.
Lexi, you got to have fun.
She's going to try it too.
She's going to be looking like...
I'm going to try littering.
You know Lexi can't drive.
Women can't drive.
Women can't drive at all.
That is not a true statement.
I hate driving.
I hate it.
See?
You don't like driving?
I hate it. All I do is not disagree with you. I hate driving. I hate it. See? You don't like driving? I hate it.
All I do is drive here, but I fucking hate driving.
We got WNBA champion Lexi Brown back on the couch.
Opposed to driving, get you a little Uber, find you a little Young Work to drive you to.
Yeah, sofa.
You got plenty of them.
You're a driver.
If anybody wants to be my driver, let me know.
Uh-oh, shit. Oh, shit. Hey, don't. You got plenty of them. If anybody wants to be my driver, let me know. Uh-oh, shit.
Oh, shit.
Champion only.
Hey, champion only.
You're a cop. I'm lying.
I'm lying. I don't do none of that.
He don't do none of that.
He don't do none of that at all.
He would just clout you.
He would just clout you.
We got Cemetery Larry.
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There's a bunch of requests going in that they'll drive for you.
Oh, thanks guys.
You got personal drivers all through here. You just got to go through the chat and pick
who you want to drive you every day.
Oh no!
We need background checks. We need clean driving records, background checks,
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And a nice car.
Yeah, we got a...
Because you're not driving mine.
They ain't nothing but fans, freaky-ass niggas.
Freaky-ass niggas.
All right.
Straight to Applebee's.
Straight to Applebee's.
No, no!
Straight to Applebee's.
Let that go!
Where we going?
Where we going?
I thought we let it go.
My guy, for sure. Why do y'all like that? Let it go. It wasn going? Where we going? I thought we let it go. Fine dining for some.
Why y'all like that?
It wasn't me, though.
It was him.
It was him.
Okay, help yourself.
Fine dining.
Fine dining.
Start introducing yourself.
It's rude.
Okay, hi, I'm Josiah Johnson.
I'm merely a host.
Not your what?
Not your indoor voice, man.
No, not your indoor voice.
Yeah, motherfucker.
I do have a deeper voice. It's that Rob Parker voice. It's at work. Damn, motherfucker. I do have a deeper voice.
It's that Rob Parker voice when you're at work.
Damn.
Can we increase the peace, Gil?
Nah.
Nah, just saying the back and forth.
I got to treat him like the last victim.
Yeah.
But this has been going on since we started.
Hey, I'll fuck a channel up.
Rob, you better calm down.
Listen, that odd couple, the views about to be low once I'm finished with them.
Hey.
Last thing he wanted is us to jump in.
Let's increase the pace and he's going to Johnny Ford.
We'll jump him.
We'll jump him.
Don't get it twisted, Rob.
We ain't out here fucking around.
You going to call your big brother?
You ain't going to call the big brother.
But here's what's cracking in the arena today.
Giannis is in the arena today.
Giannis is in the lab working on his jumper,
and Dame doesn't think he gets enough credit for his.
But will free time get the Bucs out of the first round this season?
Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese are doing numbers on and off the court,
but can Clark become just the second player in WMA history
to win MVP in her rookie season?
She creeping on to come up.
I think Angel Wilson got something to say about that.
And a slimmed-down Zion Williamson was recently spotted at his basketball camp.
But will this be the season Zion finally lives up to the hype?
He's looking right, trying to say he's playing in those 270s, lowest since college.
He's got the beer going, too.
He's got the little struggle beer, too.
Okay, Zion, we see you putting in work.
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It's going to be a turn up.
Obviously,
heavy security presence.
We got guards at the gate if you are not
on the list you will not get in
and that's real
I will give you the loophole but you got
to give me some breath for it so we're
going to start this show off with an interesting question
that popped up on Twitter from the legends at
NBA University
so here's the question for you
name a player that
is incredible at a really specific skill.
So the example that they used was Kevin Love
in his full court outlet passes.
So give me a current or former player, NBA or WNBA,
that is incredible at a really specific skill.
So, Rashad, we will start with you, Mr. Cemetery Larry,
because it is obvious.
It is. I would want to start off saying Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
That's one that jumps out to me. But then again, there's the fadeaway. MJ fadeaway.
The MJ, MJ. So I'll go with's the fadeaway. MJ fadeaway. The MJ hem-jay.
So I'll go with the MJ fadeaway.
Okay, MJ fadeaway.
Brandon, how about yourself?
Give me a player that is really good at a specific skill.
I would say John Stockton, pass.
That's one.
Pick and roll?
Yeah, just a...
And then Dennis Rodman, rebounding.
That's fair.
That's dope. That's dope.
Let's shift it over to this side of the couch.
Lexi.
This is a very specific skill.
That is the question.
Okay.
So when I played in Chicago with Candice Parker,
she would do this thing where she would do a dribble handoff,
and then she would bounce it behind her and then set the screen.
And I had never seen anybody do that before, and she did it really well. And I thought that was the coolest thing ever.
I never got to benefit off of that because I didn't play.
But I enjoyed watching her get my teammates open,
and I haven't really seen anybody do it as well as she does it.
The bounce and the pick.
That is a show.
She's really good at it.
That means you're coming off. And she never would get illegal screens. She does it. The bounce and the pick. The bounce and then boom. That is a skill. She's really good at it.
That means you coming off.
And she never would get illegal screens.
I actually got hit by them too.
For her defender.
What was it like to find yourself on the wrong side of that?
I mean, I always thought it was a moving screen every time, but she's like, now then being
on her team and watching how she did it, I realized it was not a moving screen.
She's just really good.
Not a moving screen. She's really smart.
Yeah.
That's a doper way to actually set a screen.
Yep, just bounce.
Yep.
So Gil, give me a current or former player
that is incredible at a really specific skill
you cannot say yourself.
And not pass me.
Gary Payton trash Trash Talking.
That is a skill.
It is.
It is a skill.
Gary Payton, Trash Talking.
That's a good one.
It is.
And a skill.
I mean, Trash Talking is a skill. Dribbling.
Euro step.
James Harden.
Braun with the chase down blocks.
I mean, you know, a skill.
I'll say.
Specific skill.
I'll say Harden getting fouled.
Yeah, that's a good one. James Harden getting fouled. Yeah, that's a good one.
James Harden getting fouled was a skill to the point
where they had to alter the rulebook because of it.
And did you, as players, obviously I know a lot of fans,
they said it messed up the viewing experience
watching Harden's ability to draw fouls,
but as just a basketball fan,
I love people that can manipulate the rulebook to their benefit.
Did you, as players, have any issue seeing Harden do that
to get himself to the line to get some easy buckets?
You know what? It wasn't the fans that hated it.
It was the media that hated it, and they gave the idea to the fans.
But the problem is they don't understand how brilliant you have to be as a as an offensive player
to manipulate rules and
Referees in real time like just really think about like bank robbing right? You know how skillful you got to be to pull it off
right while
There's security and there's a button you have to you you're not a dummy
Right, so you have to you didn't give the offensive players credit
for me sitting here, hitting here,
and then pump faking you jumping, I'm jumping into you.
Or me throwing a ball and you're goofy enough to reach for it
and then I pull up, right?
You have to be very clever to know the human behavior.
And that's what those guys did right and you penalize them because defense wasn't disciplined
enough to follow their rulebook so that so when fans said oh he just gets to the
foul the foul line all the time well, it's not his fault defense is stupid.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because you wasn't doing that against Kawhi Leonard.
Yep.
Right?
You wasn't doing that against Klay Thompson.
The elite defenders didn't get caught with those moves.
Period, period.
Right?
It's the dummies.
And that was, and no one gave credit for that.
They call it the foul baiting.
You're a foul baiter, right?
It's like him and Trey Young.
Yeah.
You know, it's a testament to their genius,
but it's also, like you said,
the lack of discipline for the defender,
for the all-star elite guys that actually know how to guard that.
They don't get caught with the bait.
I mean, he would seek out those types of defenders
to do that.
Yeah, you seek them out.
I'm going to do the pick and roll.
He don't know nothing about what I'm about to do.
I'm about to hit him with the, uh, uh.
He would purposely go at certain players to get those guys.
And that's why I see, like, it is an advantage for him,
and it is legendary, but it also tests to the defense
that was being played in the league when he was doing it.
He wasn't doing it against the elite when he was playing
against all the guys who'd never seen it.
But, like, let's say Kobe, right?
People didn't realize
Coles pump fake was
Free throw baiting. Yep, right
It was hard for him to get Rajah bail to jump
Everybody else one two
Okay, I got you dummy right, you know Rajah bail stayed down. So he knew no matter how many times he pump fake,
he was trying to get him to be undisciplined.
That's what that came from.
Right?
Because he knew I pump fake.
Everybody's like, all right, stay down.
Stay down on Kobe's pump fake.
He's going to come, pump fake, pump fake.
All right, you don't want to jump.
Pump fake again.
Now you jump.
Like, you're the undisciplined one.
But that's what that was.
It was free throw baiting.
And you talk about foul baiting.
Kobe, I think in the later stage of his career, every time he shot was scream.
Hey, right.
I'm trying to trick the refs.
He's calling a foul.
Like that was the number one thing we did.
Hey, it worked every time.
I used to hate playing.
Man, Ginobili, AI.
Hey, what the fuck?
Don't get mad at him for doing it.
Get mad at the ref.
It's only three refs on the court.
When we used to shoot, smack yourself in the wrist.
Hey, what the fuck is that?
I know, what's his name?
Antonio Daniels.
As soon as he's driving, he's yelling.
Yeah!
Don't wait. Don't wait.
Don't wait.
Ain't nobody even around.
Ain't nobody even around.
You by yourself, bro.
So we got some pics from our producers as well.
They got Jose, Grand Theft, Alvarado, Sneaky Steals.
Oh, hell yeah.
Draymond, Physical Violence.
Physical Violence.
What do we call that, Enforcer?
I don't know what that is.
Enforcer.
Physical violence.
Mellow jab step, Rick Mahorn pulling the chair
for all my old school basketball fishing.
AI crossover, obviously good.
You pointed out that League stepped in
and tried to curtail his ability to do that.
Steph's three.
Yeah, Steph's three-pointer, Sean Livingston middie.
Nash pocket pass.
And the Dirk one-leggy.
Dirk one-leggy.
One-leggy.
I mean, Luka step back.
Luka step back.
Yeah.
Bron sidestep.
The look down.
The look down.
The look down.
Bron look down.
Hey, that bitch go in, too.
It's like a lock in.
As soon as he do it, it's like, dummy. Look down.
He go green.
He doing this.
He shot me to go green every time he looked down.
I'm like, dog.
You see him look straight down at the court.
It worked every time.
Oop.
I'm like.
I'll be like, bro.
Hey, it's cash, though.
That motherfucker cash.
When he look, it's like, aw.
Hey, it's just looking at the ground again.
James Worthy running the floor
The James the yeah
No, yeah, that is a skill man running the floor running the floor just carry kiddles. Just like a site
Rip hamlet rip Hamilton, you know how to run the floor
Hamilton coming off screen runs rip for that was a skill
Reggie Allen Houston
Running the floors. Okay. Now we're opposed. Heygie, Allen Houston. Running the floor.
Hey, man, I'm not going to lie.
Now we're reaching. Hey, you passed the ball.
You was a passer, dog.
Yeah. What?
I seen the highlight tape.
Couldn't really shoot like that, but... I seen the highlight tape,
man, you in the fast break, and you throwing
lobs off the back hard as hell, and people
catch like... He was dishing that bitch, too. I was like, man, I didn't. I was all
right. How did you? You gotta watch that McDonald's game. I was like, it's coming like different
dude though. His name is Brandon. Who this nigga is? Mr. Mr. Mr. BJ. I was looking at
it like, how did you see that? What is it right here?
It's a nice find.
It's a nice find.
That Brandon nigga, it was in Detroit and Milwaukee.
He's all right.
Can't guard me, though.
Shoot for it.
Shoot for it.
Uh-oh.
What would be the best?
If we had to rank, who, okay, which is the best skill?
To have?
All time.
Like, I mean, their skill.
Just that one skill.
For that player or just for anybody that could get that skill to be, like...
No, just the player who had that skill that dominated the game with that skill.
Shooting threes.
Shooting threes.
Step three.
So, Steph, the George Gervin finger roll.
Ooh, the George Gervin finger roll. Ooh, the George Gervin finger roll.
But, I mean, was that his go-to?
But, like, if that's all he did, would he be a Hall of Famer?
Like, Steph is a Hall of Famer for Mr. 3.
I go with George.
Dennis Rodman is a Hall of Famer for just rebounding.
Kareem.
Kareem with the skyhook?
33,000.
33,000.
I'm going to go wrong then with this.
But that's not all skyhooks. No way. That's not all skyhooks. But I'm just saying, Steph. Steph and him. 33,000
Step in him step in that three point, but that's guy probably most unstoppable on
Even though Steph is half three magic magic magic pass MJ fadeaway the
That came later in his career though it did it did
Well, he had some scoring I see what a big a man Jackie I mean he was doing it in like the early 80s, but it wasn't his staple the chat keeps saying the dream shake
So we got a dream
You know so funny I
Somebody then it was like he did actually get called for a lot of travels.
Most of his turnovers came from traveling.
Yeah.
Moving too fast.
Yeah.
They said he was too fast.
And Chaz's also saying Tim Duncan.
Big fundies.
Off the glass.
Off the glass.
But you remember, what he did perfect was hold it here, you do this, and then he went up.
And they took that from him.
Yep.
They did?
Yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah. He, yeah.
He started it.
They started calling that was a no call.
So Tim Duncan is the one who started, when you put your hand like this, and he started that.
Then what happened was everybody started using that three-point line, Kevin Durant, and then they just took it from everybody.
Yeah.
But Tim Duncan was a master at that.
Yeah.
He was also rocking. He'd be sitting there.
Old Navy back in the day,
long before it was fashionable.
If it ever was.
Shag breaking back bullets.
That is a skill.
And I believe
it's Will Chamberlain's
birthday today.
Obviously he had
a specific skill
that many people know about.
See.
Sounds like we're
scoring on it all.
Man, my type of skill.
All right,
well let's keep
this thing moving.
Zion Williamson played a career-high 70 games last season
but was sidelined for the playoffs with a hamstring injury.
Since coming in the league as the number one overall pick back in 2019,
Zion has dealt with injury and weight issues throughout his career.
To his credit, Zion has addressed these issues,
including his appearance on this very show back in the summer of 2023
where he said he's trying to follow LeBron's blueprint Zion has addressed these issues, including his appearance on this very show back in the summer of 2023,
where he said he's trying to follow LeBron's blueprint for strength, conditioning, and body maintenance. So the two-time All-Star was spotted at his basketball camp recently, looking lean with the beard,
with his stepfather saying Zion currently weighs 281 pounds and will be 272 pounds by the start of
the 24-25 NBA season. For reference, Zion played at 285 his lone season at Duke. So
as a part of his five-year $193 million extension he signed in the summer of
2022, Zion has a weight clause in his contract which stipulates his weight
plus body fat percentage cannot be more than 295. So, for example, if he's 285 pounds,
his body fat percentage can't be more than 10%.
Combine those two numbers.
Wait, what?
That's crazy.
To get to 295.
That is crazy.
10% body fat is insane.
I'm just saying.
So, if he's 272, he could be 23.
Like, yeah.
So, wait.
So, he's at what right now?
If he had 270, what?
So, it could be 25.
Oh, okay.
Anything over 25%.
Which is a lot. That's a lot. For a man, that? So it could be 25. Anything over 25%. Which is a lot.
That's a lot.
For a man, that's a lot of body fat.
So if he's 285, he can't have 10% body fat?
He can have 10% maximum body fat.
Anything over that would trigger that weigh-in clause.
Even though his weight still says 285?
Yes, Gil.
I'm just telling you.
Body fat percentage.
Because if he's 285 and his body fat percentage is 20, he's going to look crazy.
He'll look crazy.
But if he's 10% body fat, he'll look like goddamn incredible.
Got another pick, Zion.
This one's better.
Wow.
This was the one I was like, okay.
Yes, Zion.
He's doing that stuff.
What's that stuff?
His impact.
No, he's doing the thing called workout.
It's called a workout, baby.
He looks good. Man, he looked like Dwight and M. Don't put a step on him. Huh? He's called a workout, baby. He looks good.
Man, he look like Dwight and Mello and the rest came back.
He might need to put a little bit extra on now.
No idea that was.
They all came back with some skinny necks.
With some skinny necks?
Yeah.
Skinny necks.
Hey, where you get that neck from?
Yeah, I know.
Wow.
He looks really good.
Got it up that, that, that, that, that, that.
So Zion will have six weigh-in checkpoints during this season.
If he passes those checkpoints, 20% of his salary for the 2025-26 season will become guaranteed.
Some also other things.
If he plays at least 41 games this upcoming season,
another 40% of that salary becomes guaranteed.
Another 40%?
If he plays at least 51 games,
another 20% will become guaranteed on top of that.
And if he plays at least 61 games without violating the weight clause,
then his entire
20, 25, 26 salary
will be guaranteed.
So he could potentially
not have any money
guaranteed.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
If everything goes wrong,
which I hope he doesn't.
So if he plays 10 games,
how much does a nigga get?
Two, three, four?
Basically.
What kind of contract?
WNBA contract?
Have you ever been
in a contract
like this before
no
I ain't heard
I mean with the weight
Oliver Miller
Oliver Miller
but not like
there's never been
this many
it'd be like
you can find
like 5,000 a week
it was telling him
Oliver wasn't as good
to even have that
the same rules apply
to subsequent seasons
as well
so if he does it
this season
it gets the guarantee
for next season next summer we'll have to do and going into next season. So if he does it this season, he gets the guarantee for next season,
next summer he'll have to do
and go into the next season the same thing.
Wait, wait, wait.
So let's just say he plays 75 games this year.
Everything's boom.
Then he gets that 25.
Everything is given to him.
25, 26 is guaranteed.
Automatically 25, 26 games.
But let's say he comes in 25, 26
and doesn't hit this criteria again,
I believe then.
The following year.
Yeah.
Okay, so every other year.
His contract is not guaranteed?
No.
It's like college, right?
It's like college, right? You gotta be
eligible.
You gotta be eligible
to start the season off.
Two ineligibles.
Oh, you're out. Okay.
Some of us had to learn that the hard way.
Has anybody talked about his contract?
Like, whose idea was it?
Who was his agent?
Yeah.
Who came up with this contract?
Who was his agent?
What the hell?
I want to know who presented this.
Was it Zion's people or the Pelicans?
Yes.
And why did Zion's people sign off on it?
Who was his agent?
You know why?
I don't know.
Because he missed the whole season the year before, 2021, 2022 season.
Yeah.
With the injury, though.
Yeah. It wasn't because of his weight.
But you got to remember,
they're there in real time
watching him.
He's getting bigger.
So, you know,
we don't know what his weight
was looking like.
We don't know what he was doing,
how big he looked then.
So they probably put this in
and he was like,
all right, fine, cool.
I hope his mental is good
dealing with all that.
Zion, like we pointed out,
two-time All-Star,
has yet to make
an All-NBA team.
But looking ahead
to this season,
I showed, obviously,
tremendous flashes last season playing those 70 games and the play-in, obviously yet to make an All-NBA team. But looking ahead to this season, I showed, obviously, tremendous flashes last season
playing those 70 games and the play-in, obviously, at the 40, 11, and 5 before the hamstring.
He didn't make an All-NBA on that.
That All-Star year?
2021 year.
Should have.
Do not believe so.
Let me double-check to confirm, but...
I mean, he didn't, but I'm like, damn.
27 and 7?
Oh, he averaged 27-7 and didn't play?
Yeah.
But did make an all-star game
playing 29 games
with 61% shooting.
Wait, how many games
did he play, though?
Oh, he played 61.
Oh, that's crazy.
That's a great year.
This was pre...
7-7?
Yeah.
And that was
a 72-game season.
Bro, when he playing,
it was 72-game season, so he only missed 11 games. And he shot 61% from 72 games. Bro, when he playing, it was 72 games season,
so he only missed 11 games.
And he shot 61% from the field.
Bro, when he's playing, they are different.
I hope he can get going this year.
Wait, did they have an All-NBA?
Who was on All-NBA then?
For 2021, with the year he averaged 27.
Let me pull it up.
So this was the year after the bubble.
Yeah, after the bubble.
Oh, that was when they started right after.
Yeah, the janky one.
The janky one.
The janky seven, you know.
That was crazy.
To try to throw LeBron in his quest,
but we're not going to talk about it.
So 2020.
Y'all know I'll be fucking around.
2021 was Giannis, Kawhi, Joker, Steph, and Luka were first team.
LeBron, Julius Randle, and B, Dame, and Chrisuka were first team. LeBron, Julius Randle, Embiid, Dame, and Chris Paul were second team.
Jimmy Butler, Paul George, Gobert, Beal, and Kyrie Irving made the third team.
Beal and Kyrie, Gobert.
Man, those have changed a lot in the three years.
In 2021.
Damn, three years.
He should have made it over to Rudy.
A lot has changed.
Rudy made all NBA that year?
So did Julius.
He did.
That's when you still had to do a center.
Oh, it was efficient.
No, that center was taken out like 2015.
Because that's what stopped Dwight Howard from getting all those.
So front court, back court.
But just looking at Zion and what he's been able to do,
like I said, he pulled up last summer, was very open and transparent.
About the situations he was dealing with.
14, 14, 13, defense,
defensive player of the year, first team all defense,
third team all-star. Who was that? Rudy. Rudy,
14 and 13. Yeah, that's tough.
That's a good combination. Yeah, Rudy.
Oui, oui. Oui, oui. combination yeah Rudy we we and then positionless all NBA voting began in 2023
but back to Zion like I said played a career-high 70 games this past season
numbers were down a little bit but was on the court is this the season Zion
puts it all together and finally reaches his potential. I think so.
He better.
Yeah.
He better.
Or what?
Or he gonna make his money.
Shit, it's time to like move on.
Like...
Trade him?
How old is he?
23.
Uh, 20, I think 23.
Huh?
23.
Oh, damn.
Oh, that's tough.
I know, that's...
I mean, I don't know, I just want him to have a healthy year. Remember, he's Ant- it. That's I mean, oh
I just want to have a healthy year. Remember he's ant-man. He's at me's age right now. So yeah, and he's insulted
And he's what he's insulted and motivated clearly. I mean should be
I
Think he played well enough last year when he had that 30 against y'all and he got hurt
Yeah, 40 40 in the 40 40 11 any hurt. Yeah, 40, 40 and 11. Then he got hurt.
Yeah, got hurt.
Towards the end of the game.
Towards the end of the game.
I think that's where his disappointment is.
So Zion just turned 24 in July.
Ant-Man just turned 23 past August 5th, I believe.
Yeah, that's the year.
If he don't get hurt in that playoff game, he on the Olympic team.
Who, Zion?
Zion.
Mm.
He on the Olympic team if he don't get hurt.
Probably will be on the next Olympic team. He'll be 2028. He on that team. He gonna He on the Olympic team if he don't get hurt. He will be on the next Olympic team.
He'll be 2028.
He on that team.
Think about that team.
Zion, Ant-Man, Ja Morant, Devin Booker.
He just turned 24.
Jesus.
Like this year, I think it all started last year,
where he took his health a little bit serious.
We can see him losing weight.
He played, you know, that season.
You know, for the most part, it was like just stay healthy.
Yeah.
And even though he tweaked towards the end, but for the most part, he got a season.
He got a real good season under him.
Yeah.
And, you know, this summer he carried on by, you know, losing weight, getting in shape.
The fact that we can visually... We don't even care about your weight.
You could have told us he was 260.
We will believe it.
Because he looks healthier.
He looks like he's in shape.
Yeah.
Right?
So I think mentally all of it, just the positive reinforcements,
probably makes him mentally healthier,
which I think that is going to be his breakout year.
So I think during the in-season tournament,
the TNT crew kind of went at him for his weight.
He reportedly lost like 25 pounds after that point during the season last season
and now seems to be headed in that right direction.
I mean, a 270 zion more bouncy that's that right you think it's going to affect the way he plays
if you look at there was a picture in duke where someone was shooting the corner three and i don't
know if he has it i don't know if he has this on his wall but that needs to be it right and how do
you look at him you just just be like, God.
So even a glimpse of that at that weight, oh, my God.
Yeah.
Different.
Yeah.
And seeing him in real life, too, like, damn.
And that competitive edge at that size, if you go down to 270,
like you said, he's jumping higher, he's running faster.
And think about that grit, that mentality that he's going to have behind that.
I think that animosity is going to carry him.
It's just going to be about his teammates.
Like, what kind of energy are they going to help him with?
What are they going to bring that's going to motivate him to go even harder?
B.I. got to be locked in.
Yeah.
Like, Abrado.
If he's still, I mean, it just depends, like, what ends up happening.
They lost Valanciunas.
They lost some pieces.
So they got to rally.
But I think Zion can lead the pack.
I think he can show.
They're going to be better than the Lakers.
They're going to be better than the Lakers, for sure.
Will Zion help them?
Yeah.
You ain't worried about those goddamn Lakers.
Sorry.
Sorry, guys.
I've never seen that.
It's going to be a long year for y'all.
I know.
It wasn't last year.
He was healthy to the motherfucker, right?
40 and 11.
Still left with an L.
Still left with an L?
Neither here nor there.
Neither here.
Damn, Josiah.
You feel like, Gil, this year...
You're going to be a part of the conversation
or you're going to be a part of the conversation?
I'm just...
Say it louder.
Say it louder.
Say it louder so they can hear you.
We're going to attack the big.
You're going to play pick and roll.
We're going to attack your ass with the pick and roll, nigga.
But you feel like this year Zion can make an all-NBA team,
which is wild to think about.
See, two all-star games.
Yeah, I mean...
Those numbers he was putting up.
Just looking at his numbers last year
and then the way he plays.
I mean, he's been in the league five years, but he's played four.
And he's never really been the focal point of the offense.
And I think that he's coming in healthy.
And I got him at 28 to 28, 28 to 30.
28, 38.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
You think he's even going to get enough shots?
What did he average last year?
23, I believe.
23 last year.
23 last year.
Easy work.
Easy work.
He said 20.
Was the whole team a selfie?
Yeah, 23, 6, and 5 last year playing.
23, 6, and 5. Close to 32 minutes a game. I got him at, I-6-5 last year playing. 23-6-5.
Close to 32 minutes a game.
I got him.
Oh, he was only playing third.
Shot a career-low 57% from the field.
Career-low 57%.
Wow.
You put him at 36 minutes, he's averaging 26 easy.
So I got him at 28 because I think just he's going to come out.
So Carrillo.
Balling.
Carrillo 57% from the field last year, but shot 33% from three.
Which is obviously kind of, you know, average.
But if he can get that up, get the three ball right.
57%.
His whole, this whole year, I mean, just his whole career is just going to,
the biggest fight with him is just gonna be staying below a certain weight
yeah as long as he can stay below a certain weight he can be a hall of famer yeah right that's it
ain't it ain't about like perfecting the shot or doing it just him playing hard just him playing
hard every game he's a hall of famer yeah right so with that in mind, like if you can go into the summer every year,
start eating healthy,
staying under a certain weight,
then you get to basically
work on other things.
But if you sit
two, three months out
and then now you got to
go into training camp,
try to lose the weight,
you're going to be
knicky-knacky.
And you talked about
how tough it is on the road,
that room service, all the food options that are readily available, in addition, obviously, being New Orleans and all the culinary
offerings they have out there.
Yeah, he got it, Chef.
He fine.
But the problem is, the summer is easier for us to lose weight.
It's hot.
More pickup games.
Yeah, you're working out all the time.
But there's a lot of things you're doing, right?
You're outside.
Yeah, you're outside more. Yeah. When the season things you're doing. You're outside more.
When the season comes,
you're
go practice, go home, play video games,
sit around. You're on buses,
you're on planes, you're eating bad food,
getting in 2-3 morning.
Then you got the girls, then you got the
alcohol and the partying.
You're gaining
weight during the season.
Sounds tough.
Like, look at...
That's what I'm saying.
Sounds like a hard life.
Look at somebody at preseason basketball.
Look at their physique,
and then look at them in April.
People are like, whoo, wear the muscle mask,
wear the... They ain't the definition.
It's just all just...
Did you try to come into camp lower weight
knowing that you were going to gain?
I came into camp every year from under 210.
So I was like 206 to 208, right?
I finished the season 220, 224.
Damn.
Damn.
And I worked out all the time.
And I conditioned.
He was eating bullshit, though. Stayed away from weights. He was all the time and I condition it right my state bullshit though stayed away from weights
He was eating the desserts and shit
You about cake?
Cheeseburger with two cheeses three scoops of vanilla ice cream a chocolate cake and two Cokes after the work
That was my meal every time I hit the road
Every hotel damn so guarantee 41 meals of that every time I hit the road, every hotel. Damn. So, guarantee,
41 meals of that
if we got in at night.
Now, I got lunch, too.
Damn.
That's all I ate in the hotel room.
I didn't eat,
like, unless we went to dinner.
You was hotel burgers.
Hotel burgers.
Ice cream.
I took three scoops.
The great white hype.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this.
Look at this. Look at this. Look at this. Look at this. Look at this. today too. So we also got that photo Zion from Duke that you referenced. Just so...
Jesus Christ.
Hey, that nigga is...
Where is his hand at?
On the ball? On the ball.
The ball or butter rick? And what's so funny is
he didn't tip this.
Right? He blocked it.
Get that shit out of there. He smacked it.
That's ridiculous.
The swat is the appropriate. And I think he jumped from in between the N's ridiculous. This what is the appropriate?
I think he jumped from in between and I in between the in and I he jumped from there. That's insane
That is well look at that
Shout out Zion
We with you brother
Let's get it. Let's go
Mom, let's look at another player.
Lonzo Ball hasn't played in the NBA game in more than two and a half years
while undergoing three separate knee surgeries in that time frame,
including a cartilage transplant last March.
So after getting cleared to return to the court this month for five-on-five activities,
video surface of Lonzo playing pickup in Chris Johnson's just hoop NBA run.
So I have other players in there like Jaron Jackson Jr.,
you see DeAndre Jordan.
So, you know.
Man, I want to fucking hoop, nigga.
You want to get back out there, bud.
Hell yeah, man.
It's so nice seeing him play.
All things considered, Zo looking solid out there.
For what?
Hey, man, I seen one thing that I like.
Why you don't score? Shit one thing that I like automatic bucket
nigga automatic but it ain't this I gonna get one book yeah it looks like
oh niggas like me no NBA players on undergone a cartilage transplant in
their knee and return to the court so is aiming to be the first for his
careers averaging 12.6 rebounds,
6 assists. And in the 35 games
he played with the Bulls in the 2021-22
season, he averaged 13 points, 5
rebounds, and 5 assists.
Obviously, he's not played in two and a half years.
It's going to take him a little time to reacclimate himself
back on the court. So what are reasonable
expectations for Lonzo
Ball this season when he does return back to the
court? Yeah.
Yeah.
60.
60.
60.
60 games.
Okay.
You think Alonzo got 60? Give him 60.
Yeah, he gets 60 games, man.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
Right?
I mean, I wouldn't, like,
if he did 41, if he did every other game, I'll be fine with that as a Yeah. Right? I mean, I wouldn't, like, if he did 41, if he did every other game,
I'll be fine with that as a fan.
Right?
And then I'm thinking about, it's like, how Zion was this year.
Probably no back-to-backs.
Yeah.
How Zion was this year.
At least at the beginning.
I will hope that for him.
Like, just get through this season for your mental.
I don't expect you to go out there and be comeback player of the year.
Right.
Right? That's just too much.
Right, I just get out there.
I mean, I just hate it happened to him
because I feel like that was the Bulls' downfall on their success.
You know, it was Zach Levine and DeMar.
They didn't have that point guard.
But it is going to be good to see him back playing.
Like you said, if he can get 60 games and just being out there is great.
But I just wish he would have played with the Bulls though,
because I feel like that Bulls team would have been different.
It would have looked totally different.
Yeah, and they were obviously different before he got hurt.
Losing a player of Alonzo's caliber tremendously impacted that squad.
Tremendously.
I mean, I've been an Alonzo fan since he was in UCLA.
I heavily vouched for him.
I bought the ZO2s.
LeVar gave me the ZO1s off his feet.
You know, I've openly promoted the Big Baller brand with the Big 3 in 2017.
A little overpriced, but still bought.
You're going to buy some Gucci's. You're going to go buy some ZO's, right? brand with the big three in 2017. A little overpriced, but still a movement.
You're going to buy some Gucci's.
You're going to go buy some Zoles, right?
I have several big baller brand.
And then, you know, just the injuries and all the things that has happened since, you know, even when he was in New Orleans, he said he felt like he was one of the best point
guards in the league.
And I think it's demoralizing when you go through injury and you have an expectation
and you're fighting the expectation before the injury,
and you get it, and then you've got to come back and fight more of that.
I think that's going to be the pressure on him.
I think the slower he comes back, the easier the pressure will be on him.
He's, like, 60 games.
If he can play 60 games, average about 10 and 5 as, like, a springboard,
I think that could be vital for his confidence for sure.
And everybody on this couch has dealt with injuries.
And I think you pointed out, you know, sometimes when you come back, you feel great
those first couple of games,
but it's now just the long run of playing a grueling NBA season
and really knowing your body well enough to know,
all right, I feel great today, but I got to...
Because what ends up happening,
it's delusional on our part, right?
We don't understand that we're playing controlled basketball.
Right?
So when you're coming back from an injury,
everything you're doing,
even though it seems like it's free play,
it's really controlled, right?
In here, no one's going at you like they supposed to.
Whoever's guarding you or you're guarding,
that's not Ja Morant, that is not Kyrie,
that is not Curry, right?
That is not De'Aaron Fox, right?
So you're playing level one opponents, right?
So you get this false sense of you're ready.
So you really have to really be mindful.
So you'll go through the whole summer balling, thinking you back.
And then week one, you sitting there knee blown up because they...
At you.
At you.
Because you never made those moves because now you can't control.
Right.
The same thing with Derrick Rose.
Like, I'm good.
And then when you get in the games and what ends up happening is your natural ability kicks in.
Right?
So you're sitting here playing and then someone cuts you off and you twitch and then try to twitch back and your knee was.
Not the same.
Your knee never experienced that this whole time of your natural reaction.
So, you know, for the most part,
he's going to be playing safe
basketball, as he should.
I caught one thing.
It was the very first play.
And that shows me
the growth from now
from when he first came into the league.
So when he first came into the league, he had
the shot that came like this,
which means when he went right, right,
he couldn't pull up.
Had to go all across his back.
Because he can't come across his body
because the defender's there.
So anytime he went right, he kind of just, you know,
probed because he didn't want to go in and get hit
because he wasn't really a good free throw shooter
at the time, right?
His threes came from going left so he can do the step back
because I can step back and then it's automatically in my pocket.
So the very first play here, dribble with his right, pulled up.
In the middle.
I'm like, oh, see?
Yeah, yeah.
Enhanced.
It's still a little funky, though.
It's still a little funky.
But the fact that he can go right and pull up,
he opened up a whole side of the floor that he didn't have those other couple years.
Well, the difference now is when he was healthy, he could attack that side of the floor that he didn't have those other couple years. Well, the difference now is when he was healthy, he could attack that side of the floor if
he had it.
Now, it's the uncertainty of, can I do it like I used to?
Because I'm coming off an injury.
You got to trust that knee.
You got to, you know what I'm saying, have that speed.
Yeah.
Yeah, shot looks different.
It looks like he's been working on it.
Like, obviously, I said, man, his spot-up shot was,
coming into the league, his spot-up shot was always good, right?
So when people talked about his threes,
like, no, his spot-up shot as a shooting guard looked amazing.
It was when he has the ball and he has to do the step-back because now he's stepping back further than he expected.
That's what made it look like he couldn't shoot the ball very well.
It was wild. That season, 21-22, we played the 35 game, ended up getting hurt.
He was shooting 42% from three, which was a career high at that point.
I want to say like four or five percentage points higher than any other point in his career.
So it felt like it was starting to come together.
I'm going to have the Bulls package, man. I'm going to have the Bulls package.
Are we going to talk about it? We're going to talk about it? The Bulls? The Bulls package man. I'm at the Bulls package. We're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about
wolves The wolf's back what you mean? You heard him see the games they pass you want to watch the Bulls play
Packages I just want to see him play huh you pick teams to get packages for I mean the wolves are terrible
So who are you?
You know how like we're you know, like when you sign it in there by I pick the teamss are just terrible. So who are your... You know how like when you're signing in and they're like,
all right pick the teams you want.
Right.
So which teams do you pick?
Yeah.
All right.
Now Bulls.
Now you have the Bulls.
And that's why.
He's only watching them.
And that's why he feels the way he feels.
And...
Come down here grumpy and shit.
Mad every day. I can't wait this year. This year him, he feel the way he feel. And come down here grumpy and shit. Mad every day.
I can't wait this year. This year, him,
Kenyon. Oh my God. They're going to be
mad. Y'all going to be grumpy all year.
The Lakers drove him into
marriage. He's about to get married
because the Lakers trashed. The Lakers sold trash.
He's like, man, listen. I got to bet we can't.
We got something else to do, man.
Lakers love tough crowd.
Reciprocated.
Y'all know this is cooked. We got to give... Lakers love tough crowd. Reciprocated. Fucking Lakers. That's on.
Okay.
Y'all know this is cooked.
We got to give Bronis
some more tough crowd.
Cooked.
To help bring
Miles back to the force.
In the crock pot.
For about 11 hours.
It's going to be a rush.
We got J.J. Redick
put together a stellar staff.
It all depends on
how we start the season, man.
As long as they give us
like the Spurs,
Detroit three times.
Isn't the schedule
out already? The schedule is up. Y'all going to start at three and two. The schedule is out. If you start with the Spurs, Detroit three times. Isn't the schedule out already?
You start with the Spurs,
it's going to be a disappointing opening night.
You're going to lose to the Spurs.
It's going to be a disappointing opening night.
You're going to lose to the Spurs.
I'll give you their first 10 games. Timberwolves.
Loss. Sons.
Loss. Kings. Loss.
One. We got one.
That's a nude Kings team.
That's Suns.
Lost.
Suns again?
Yeah.
Lost.
At the Cavs.
That's a win.
Win.
That's a win.
It might win.
At the Raptors.
3-3-3.
At the Pistons.
4-3.
At the Grizzlies.
5-3.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss.
That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. That's a loss. It just showed all right.
It just showed 5-3.
E.D. in there.
Hang on.
Sixers in L.A.
Ew.
At home.
No, that's a win.
That's a win.
Y'all beating the Sixers.
5-4.
Y'all beating the Sixers.
Then we got the Raptors.
Yeah, they beat the Sixers.
Six.
We 5-4.
Listen.
Raptors.
Y'all might win four.
Y'all might win five max.
So we 6-4.
I'm going to give you the two next ones, though,
just so we can really get it going.
Grizzlies at the Lakers after that.
Then Lakers at Spurs to start the NBA Cup.
Yeah, the two of them.
NBA Cup.
Bruh.
Hey, hey, listen, listen.
If we're going to be playing 36, we going to be above 500.
Hey, we succeed.
That's succeed.
Is Bruh playing like 70 games?
We got the Suns out two quick ones.
Oh, that's early.
We ain't got to worry about them later on in life.
That is good.
Boom.
Two of the first four games of the season against the Suns.
That is good.
Ooh.
And then two home games?
So first one is a home game for the Lakers,
and then the second one is at the Suns.
Wait, did you say Detroit two times?
Raptors.
I think you got Raptors, Grizzlies.
Oh.
It's Detroit once.
We want them in the back end.
You know, we might lose to Detroit.
No way.
Y'all might.
Hey, them young whippersnappers out there.
They losing to the Grizzlies.
Hey, they got money up out of there.
But I got y'all beating Philly here, though.
That's a fact.
That's not a...
Yeah, we beat whoever.
Whoever you put in front of us.
We're going to be five and five at the worst.
Six and four, we good.
Four and six.
They got the same fucking roster.
And our roster was nice.
They're healthy now.
That's the word you use for your roster?
Vando's healthy. Gabe Vincent healthy. Would that be the word you use for your roster? Vando's healthy.
Gabe Vincent's healthy.
Would that be the word you would use?
Bronny.
Bronny making strides.
Gabe Vincent.
Gabe Vincent.
That's what he's been doing.
Bronny making strides.
Olsen.
Lemon Daddy Reed.
I mean, low key, low key, let's just be honest.
If we want to put some narratives out there, we did win the NBA Cup.
Y'all not winning it this year.
Y'all not winning it this year. Oh, the NBA Cup. Y'all not winning it this year. Y'all not winning it this year.
Oh, oh, oh.
Y'all winning it this year.
During a time where every team was healthy and every team was playing hard.
This is true.
Are we not going to?
Come on.
Are y'all winning it this year?
Are y'all winning it this year?
I'm just saying.
Are y'all winning it this year?
I don't know.
What you mean?
Y'all going back to back or not?
We're talking about everybody was healthy.
No team in NBA history has won two straight NBA Cups.
All right, so.
Everybody was healthy.
Everybody was playing super hard.
And we won.
So our team was good enough to win it.
Here we go this year.
Nobody was playing hard,
because nobody knew what the fuck they was doing.
Who wasn't playing hard?
They were playing hard.
Wow, not enough, not enough.
Not enough playing hard.
It was only two people playing hard.
LeBron and Halliburton.
Not even.
That was it.
It was the only two that was playing hard.
Nobody was playing hard.
And then after that, we see what happened to them two niggas. Them same two niggas. Where y'all at? LeBron and Halliburton. That was it. It was the only thing that was playing hard.
And then after that, we see what happened to them two niggas.
Them same two niggas was like, where y'all at?
Where y'all go?
That is true.
I would say like,
Rudy was playing hard.
That's why his ass got choked out.
You forgot that happened during that time.
He wasn't playing hard.
He was being clumsy.
He was playing hard.
He was fighting for his teammates.
What a time.
Sacre bleu. He was playing hard. He was fighting for his teammates. What a time.
Soccer at blue.
I hope, listen, I hope when they start doing, like, advertisement for it, that scene is in there.
Got to be.
They got to be.
If they don't, if they don't, y'all are failing when it comes to.
It's like March Madness.
It's like the March Madness shit.
You got to throw the highlights up there. You have to throw the choke in there.
Got to. Not for facts. Let's keep throw the choke in there. Got to.
Not for facts.
Let's keep it moving.
Let's head over to the W.
Kalen Clark and Angel Reese haven't missed a beat
since the W returned from the Olympic break last week.
So this past weekend, Clark made history by setting the WNBA rookie assist record.
And with 12 games left in the season, Clark needs just 85 assists
to surpass Alyssa Thomas' single season record.
And after setting a W record with 15 straight double-doubles, Clark needs just 85 assists to surpass Alyssa Thomas's single season record and
After setting a W record with 15 straight double doubles Reese became the fastest player in WME history to reach 20 double doubles and with
13 games remaining Reese needs 73 more rebounds sister past Sylvia fouls single season record
So so far this season Clark is averaging 18 point 6 rebounds 8 assists and 1.4 steals per game
Reese is averaging 14 points 12 rebounds assists, and 1.4 steals per game. Reese is averaging 14.12 rebounds, 2 assists, and 1.4 steals per game.
With both of their teams currently in playoff contention, I believe the Fever are 7th and the Sky are 8th right now.
So Clark and Reese aren't just doing numbers on the court, they're doing it off the court
as well.
Some pretty interesting numbers, so take a look at that infographic.
According to Fanatics, WNBA player-specific merchandise sales have seen a 1.3% increase some pretty interesting numbers. So take a look at that infographic.
According to Fanatics,
WNBA player-specific merchandise sales have seen a 1,000% increase
in the first half of the season compared to last year.
Iowa.
With Clark and Reese topping the list.
And surprisingly, Kate Martin ahead of Asia Wilson,
but that just shows you the dedication of Iowa fans.
They don't play about it.
Is it the Iowa fan thing or is it the Caitlin Clark thing?
No, that's the Iowa thing.
You play with me.
No, that's the Iowa thing.
You're my teammate.
Iowa and Vegas.
You're not the teammate.
She got both of them.
No, wait.
You got Iowa and Las Vegas fans who are both very much diehard.
Where is the girl she plays with?
Boston.
Boston isn't up there?
No.
Oh, Aaliyah Boston?
Yeah, because she would be, I mean, because she plays with her right now.
That's what I'm saying.
It's not a large thing.
They would have translated to her over here.
It's an Iowa thing.
Because it translated for her in all-star votes.
No, I'm saying it's a Caitlyn thing because she played with her at Iowa.
Like, she's Caitlyn's teammate. I know, but Iowa. She's the only one. Iowa first. Then Caitlyn, because she played with her at Iowa. Like if she's Caitlyn's
teammate, she's the only one. Iowa first, then Caitlyn, then Vegas. I don't know. Well,
if it was Caitlyn, then Aaliyah Boston and Kelsey Mitchell would be up there too. No,
because they didn't play with her in college. So we see on the WNBA side, three of the top
five rookies in terms of player-specific merchandise. Wimby was the only rookie in the top 15 in
the NBA this past season, which just throwing
that out there just to show you the strength of what this rookie class is doing.
But Lexi, we'll start with you.
How impressive has Kaitlyn Clark and Angel reached impact on and off the court been this
season?
Yeah, it's been amazing.
I'm personally not surprised.
I mean, I've said it all the time on this show, the impact that they're going to make.
It was going to take them some time, which it did, but our season is short. So when I say taking time,
like my people might think an NBA time, which is like 40, 50 games, but our season is only 40
games. So time would be like what, 10 to 12 games. And I said that Caitlin's passing ability was
going to trump the scoring ability that everybody loves about her game and i think the scoring is going to get there but the way she sees the court and passes the ball
is really impressive and then we just played the sky here and you know we played the sky really
early in the season when angel was still kind of getting her her life together in the league and
you know seeing her growth as a player from just a few months was really amazing to see.
I mean, the way she goes after those rebounds.
I mean, from earlier in the show, that's a skill.
The way she just goes and gets those rebounds, no matter what,
if they're winning, they're up 10, they're down 10,
they're getting blown out.
She plays hard as shit.
So it's been really great to see them both be so successful, like
the way that they specifically play basketball because they both can be
amazing at the same time. And I was at that Sparks game this weekend
unfortunately you know we almost got them. I'm not gonna talk about it. It happened.
We're not gonna talk about our season right now. It's all good. We're building, okay? Steps to success.
But let's see, just in your opinion,
have you seen two rookies come in and have this type of impact on the league?
No.
He said two, so.
Yeah, no.
At the same time?
Well, I mean, rookies don't.
We made the bird and magic comparison.
Rookies in the previous years did not play like,
they didn't get playing time, they didn't get this attention,
they didn't get this freedom.
So seeing that for both of them, both of their teams,
has been really cool to me because I know, myself included,
I wish that I was able to have the opportunity to get my feet wet
my rookie season instead of waiting until like year three or four.
Well, now you're older.
You're considered a veteran.
Now your expectations have risen,
even though you don't really have
the game time to match
your age. So to see them be able to get
all this out the way early and then be successful
on and off the court has been amazing.
For sure. So just looking at
WNBA history, Candice Parker, only player in
WNBA history to win MVP in her rookie
season. Asia Wilson's currently
the heavy MVP favorite. Clark
has jumped to a distant second according to OddsMaker. So looking at the fever this year, they haven't currently the heavy MVP favorite. Clark has jumped to a distant second
according to OddsMaker. So looking at the fever this year,
they haven't made the playoffs since 2016.
Haven't won more than 13
games at any point in that stretch since
2016. Only won
17 games total over
the 2020, 21, and 22 seasons.
Right now they are 13 and 15
with 12 games remaining. Obviously
they may be expanded to 40 games.
Looking at just what's going on, I think in recent time the only MVP
who wasn't on a top-two team was Adela Dawn, who her team was third,
if I'm not mistaken, at that point.
But what would have to happen for Kaitlyn Clark to pass Asia Wilson
in the MVP race?
Aja would probably have to never not play any more games this year.
Oh, shit.
Here we go.
She's playing out of her mind right now.
Waiting on this.
What you talking about?
She's playing out her mind.
On her punches against the WNBA players?
Who's playing basketball out there?
Rashad, Aja Wilson plays on a super team.
And she plays on a super team.
No, we said it here last year that New York and Vegas are super teams.
No, we didn't say Vegas.
No, they're not a super team.
Yes, we did.
Those girls got drafted there.
They're drafted there.
Listen.
No, those Ajas are not a super team.
We said.
No, we didn't. Yes, We said. No, we didn't.
Yes, we did.
We said here on the couch.
Maybe you said.
And said that these are the two super teams because they were the two best teams.
This was before.
Yeah, but.
This was before Clark and all of them.
This was last year.
No, that was the narrative that they were pushing.
That they were super teams.
And Vegas actively pushed back that they were not a super team because they built their team through the draft.
How many times was Asia Wilson MVP? Twice. Asia Wilson twice she won twice twice is it back to back no she didn't win last year
all right so being on a good team the way she is they won back-to-back championships yeah back-to-back
championships here comes this girl is doing something different than what she's doing
she don't have none of the pieces that she has.
That makes it easier for her to do her job.
Asia can do her job with no pressure.
What do you mean?
Kaylin has pieces.
What are you talking about?
If Kaylin had pieces, it wouldn't be seven.
It would be number three.
No, Kaylin just got there.
13 and 27 last year.
They're 13 and 15 so far this year.
Kaitlyn just got there.
She has the pieces.
Have you watched them play the last week?
Yeah, the last three games specifically.
And they look like a completely different team.
She looks like a completely different player.
They look like a completely different team.
Because she did the work during the All-Star break.
They.
Her.
They.
Kaitlyn said, I don't want to do none of that.
I'm going to the lab.
I need to fix what's going on here.
And now we see the difference.
She's like, nah, I'm going to chase that MVP because ain't nobody fixing it for me.
Well, there's also, I would say there's.
When was the last time you went to the playoffs?
Her team.
A long time ago.
2016.
There are two other players that she would also have to leapfrog to get.
They have her too.
I would say, I don't know why, though.
I would say Breonna Stewart and Nafisa Collier
are two and three right now.
Why, though?
17, eight, and five.
Okay, so this is...
What percentage?
I don't know.
Let me give it to you.
Now, the problem is...
Conversation, for sure.
She absolutely should be in the conversation.
That's all I want is with Asia
She has she's averaging 27 and 12
Right last year was last year's average in 22, but she's a big she should have won it last year
She's a big 27 and 12. Okay has more of a responsibility
Taylor Clark shooting 41 percent from the field 33 percent from from three, 89%. No way MVP. No, not MVP.
No, I'm just...
Not right now?
No.
By the time the end of the season?
For sure.
She's going to unanimously win it.
Wait, wait, hold on.
The only reason y'all don't want to unanimously give it to her...
No, no, no, I'm not saying...
Candace Parker got it, right?
Was Candace Parker on a great team?
She got it, regardless.
No, the only thing that will benefit Clark is if, let's say there's 12 games left.
They're third right now.
What?
Their team.
They're seventh.
They're seventh.
They're seventh.
And somehow they go, let's say, 10-2.
Yeah.
And she's averaging about 24 and something.
They will be pushing as an MVP.
She's 5-0 right now against five teams over 500 last five games
But as I said, like I don't want you to discredit a team routine. Oh, I'm not because I watched him play. Yeah
She's figured out how to play well with Kelsey Mitchell and Aaliyah Boston, you know, you know the media does
She don't have no pieces because they was trashed last year. Yeah, that's how you write, you know, you know what the media does She don't have no pieces because they was trashed last year. Yeah, that's how you write, you know, I mean
I don't think people really understand how hard it is to win in the WNBA
Which makes Vegas going back-to-back very impressive because it is very hard to win in the W
But what Kalen has added to that team was something that they've been missing.
And it took them some time to figure out
how to make it all work.
And Kelsey started the season injured.
So,
I do agree. Conversation,
yes. But the season Asia
is having right now,
it's hers.
Everyone has their own opinions, right?
You said unanimous. That's my, what I'm saying is team.
You said unanimous.
That's my opinion. No way.
That's my opinion.
I mean, just team.
As a rookie?
Yes.
Asia's team is not dominating like it was last year.
She wasn't dominating last year.
The team is not dominating.
They didn't have Chelsea Gray for a year.
And they just lost a new...
I'm watching them play every time.
What I'm saying is let's just say Asia's team keeps losing,
but she's still balling, and
Caitlyn's team is winning, and
she's balling. The tide will
shift, and they're going to try to
push it because of the team winning. But if
everything just stays the same,
if it stays the same, Asia, by far,
you said unanimous.
But I can tell you this right now.
That's because I know she's going to get
better.
First of all, you're giving our voters too much fucking credit.
No, I'm not.
There's going to be one hater that throws
broken records already.
What are y'all talking about? She's broken
WNBA records.
What are y'all talking? You're discrediting her.
I'm not. Yeah, we are.
I mean, if she has changed the game.
Unanimously.
That alone as a rookie.
Think about this.
A motherfucker sped up to try to bump me.
Oh, God.
I'm a rookie.
You the bet.
You know how fucking powerful I got to be for you to have that type of animosity in your heart?
Well, since you brought it up, let's talk about it.
We got to talk about
that situation.
Caitlyn is Jean Grey out there.
I can tell you this.
She's an Omega-level mutant.
X-Men.
Omega.
X-Men reference is hilarious, Rashad.
I can tell you something right now.
The fact that they have
her second in MVP
clearly says she's going to win
Rookie of the Year.
For sure.
Yeah, that, well, yeah, because media, y'all know.
I don't think there's anything really... Y'all don't mess up that poll.
We don't get no vote.
Right.
I enjoyed debating whether which one was going to get Rookie of the Year,
but y'all fucked it up.
But the fact that they have her second in MVP voting,
it kind of just clearly shows you that they're...
I mean, because there's a difference between 20 rebounds and then 19 assists
Depends on what you know, man, cuz I'm getting pulled up. I'm getting people but you're both both as hard like both
There's hard 20 rebounds and you were rookie going against veterans
That's hard that do that for a living. That's hard when you got another seven. We're next to you
Have we seen that even
Got near 20 because you getting all the boards what rookies got 20 rebounds
Huh in a game or a private Kevin love you say what really rounds is hard
Shaq probably see you will be the only but nothing buddy
Physically bigger than everybody will he would be the only one I, besides, you can't go back then because everybody's white.
Wilt had 45 in the game.
Wimby had 20 rebounds in the game.
Dwight Howard had a 21 and 20 in the game.
Wes Unsell back in the day. So basically, Dwight and Wimby.
So it's not an easy thing.
So for her to get 20 rebounds. It's a skill thing. It's a, it's not an easy thing. So, for her to get 20 rebounds
It's a skill thing. It's a skill thing.
It's a skill thing. So, you can't
20 assists is
a skill thing. 20 assists is
I mean, I'm still here for the
I mean. Walker Kessler
did it. Mark Williams.
Isaiah Stewart did it. It really depends on how the voters
vote. Yeah, Kat did it.
Mitchell Robinson. It could go to either one depending on what people value. Adamus and Nogo did it. It really depends on how the voters vote. I like that. Yeah, Kat did it. Mitchell Robinson. It could go to either one, depending on what people value.
Adamus and the MVP.
Give Angel the rookie of the year, and we'd be good.
White, black, we good.
We go party at the backyard.
But Rashadi Rouse, if you give Kaylin the MVP,
then obviously she'd have to be the rookie of the year as well.
Right.
She has to win both.
Nope.
Yes, that's right.
Yes, Rashad.
She's a rookie.
They both rookies.
I get this.
Any rookie who wins MVP is rookie of the year automatically.
But look, I got two.
Look, you can have this.
That's like the NFL with the MVP.
You can have this.
I don't want that.
You can have that.
That sounds like...
He's trying to do exactly what them voters did with Marc Gasol.
You can have it.
Defensive player of the year.
Second team.
Wait, what?
How the fuck did that happen?
Do the knowledge.
Second team.
Oh, that doesn't make sense.
Well, he got defensive player of the year in his second team.
In his second team.
Second team all defensive.
I had to be a misfit.
They did that to somebody in the W-2.
I forgot who it was.
That don't even make sense.
Nasty workers.
That's like getting MVP and then don't get first team.
Listen, Kaitlyn Clark, though.
Rashad, let's talk about what you mentioned previously,
the situation that happened late in the game
during the fever went over the storm this weekend.
So we've got the video.
So Kaitlyn Clark was pumping up the crowd, but went over the storm this weekend. So we've got the video. So
Kayla Clark was pumping up the crowd, but
walking towards the storm bench, Skyler Diggins-Smith
beelined towards Clark,
gave her a little bump. Not a
big deal. Nasty work.
She speeded up. Nasty work.
She speeded up. She hit a little speed walk
for sure. She looked like one of them Olympic speed walkers
giving it. They must have been whooping it.
So Rashad, you've been very... They was hooping this game. Sit the fuck out of them Olympics beat walkers giving it. Damn, they must be whooping it. So Rashad,
you've been very... They was hooping this game.
Get the fuck out of here.
Rashad, you've been
very active on Twitter
recently.
It really blessed my heart
to see that as a
Twitter aficionado.
Oh, God.
In response to that video,
you tweeted the following.
You said,
man, Skyler Diggins-Smith,
I know you didn't speed up
to bump into her like this.
Laughing my ass off.
This is nasty work.
God.
Diabolical, LOL. They really don't like CeCe.
But I gotta ask
you a question. CeCe.
She got CeCe?
CeCe!
She getting credit card off?
Yeah.
CeCe.
We can go to Albee's. CeCe can go to Albee's
with me.
So Kalen Clark was just me, boom.
It was us.
That's okay.
What we doing?
Next year, guys.
Huh?
What happened?
We was the only ones cheering for Lexi.
Next year, y'all better be only cheering for me.
Yeah, there wasn't a unanimous Gills Arena.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no. We all was cheering for me. There wasn't a unanimous Gil Zerino. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
No, no, no. We all was cheering for Lex. For sure.
Okay, we probably was cheering for you.
Personally. It's okay.
Nobody in that bitch was cheering for the Sparks.
I was cheering for the Sparks.
Not a single person in there was cheering for the Sparks.
I was Sparks. I thought we were in Indianapolis.
Brandon was giving
motivational speeches.
It was Lexi, Lexi, Indiana fever.
Y'all ain't shit.
Wait, hold on.
Let me try that again.
Lexi, Indiana fever.
Indiana fever.
Caitlyn.
Caitlyn and Lexi.
Because he was still talking shit about the,
he was talking shit to the Indiana fever
for not passing the ball. Yeah, Because he was still talking shit about the, he was talking shit to the Indiana Fever. I was definitely.
For not passing the ball and setting the free.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, yeah.
That's bad.
So it was, it was, it was weird.
Because he wanted to be a coach for sure.
He was trying to like.
The motivational speech.
It's okay, guys.
It was it.
I saw Brandon dip off in the second quarter with time.
So I'm like, where's he going?
I have to.
We was, we was a contradiction.
We was a contradiction to the, to the whole sideline.
Lexi, Sparks, Fever. Yeah, it was, it was Lexi, Fever. I was just happy y the whole sideline. Wait, Lexi Sparks?
Yeah, it was Lexi, Fever, Lexi, Caitlyn, Lexi, Sparks.
Kenyon drunk.
Kenyon drunk.
Kenyon just happy to be there.
Looking around.
Yeah.
Nah, bro, that game was crazy.
Kenyon appreciates the subtle things in life.
That game was ridiculous.
Rashad, do you really believe that Kayla Clark is getting targeted
or is she just getting treated like a rookie?
Nah, man.
Let this go.
Let this narrative go, please.
Thank you.
Is it a narrative?
We've just seen it.
It's not a narrative.
She does that all the time.
That's her.
Who?
Kyler.
She does shit like that.
Yeah, it was Kennedy, too.
Huh?
Kennedy, too. Also. Yeah. That's what she is. Skylar. She does it like that. Yeah, it was Kennedy, too. Huh? Kennedy, too.
Also.
Yeah.
That's who she is.
She's a hot new rookie.
Now, you know the thing.
What do you mean?
You don't want people to be competitive?
Nah.
I feel like she would have done it to any.
But that's not competitive.
She sped up, though.
I think she would have done it to any fever player.
But we don't know.
But we don't know.
The problem is this,
and this is the problem why it looks like it's hate, right?
I don't think...
They know the camera's on her,
but consciously, they're not understanding.
Everyone, all them cameras is watching one person.
That's what I'm saying.
So when you try to do something,
remember, they're catching that shit.
So you can sit there and do this to Boston.
You can clip her.
Camera not on her.
Unless Clark is innocent.
Everyone's looking for it.
So the fact that you're doing it,
they're going to see it.
So even if you do that to everyone,
it don't matter.
They're looking to see if you do it to her.
Yeah.
Because it would be dumb for you to do it to her.
Right now.
Dumb.
And I say this, you know how like a lot of WNBA players are saying, all the rookies
get this.
True.
Not this one.
Not this one.
Right?
When Kobe came in the gym. Don't touch him. Everyone get, not this one not this one right when kobe came in the gym don't touch him everyone get not this one
in fucking practice but is it from our own fucking teammates but yes but everyone everyone everyone
does not fall under the same treatment 99 all rookies get the same treatment there's a few
that's coming through history you You can't fuck with them
Look when LeBron came don't fuck got the yapping get him out of here all midseason all of them
Wendy right now off-limits get ready to learn Chinese, but
It's not nothing is being like dirty. No, it's not fine. It's not true
It's not about the dirt. But it's like you guys
get on these platforms
and call the whole WNBA full of
jealous women.
I don't know.
I can't say we.
I've never.
But it's because
the public has chosen.
But, Kobe,
the public chose protect.
Braun, protect.
Wimby, protect.
It don't happen often.
But I'm saying,
I just don't think that that was ever going on in the league.
I think it was just a new environment for her, and now she's figured it out.
And that's who?
Caitlyn.
No, it's not about Caitlyn.
I feel like she's playing, but I don't think the way people are playing her has changed.
I think she has gotten better as the season went on.
Well, she was supposed to get better.
No, I'm just talking about, like, even though, like, that...
Because you haven't even heard anybody
talking about the over-physicality
and stuff anymore
because she's giving that shit back now.
She's figured it out.
Yeah, but, like, even like this,
she gets hit and she walks.
She don't make it a big deal
because she's used to it now,
but they're still going to point it out.
Right, and that's just annoying at this point.
It's a public thing.
Yeah, it's stupid.
Like, the public is picked.
Like, if someone trips Wimby right now,
just randomly tripped
them last year. Oh, that shit would have, just like
went passing. And it looks
like they not passing the ball. Maybe
they never had a dude that they can make those
passes to. So they don't even know the man.
But we, we can see, oh shit.
You looking him off.
The public chose.
So they're going to look for every little thing.
But when you do things like that, obviously it's hard to defend.
But let's not act like Caitlyn's not out there talking.
And that's a part of her game as well.
Let me say this.
When you was coming up, you was the best, right?
Every team had to send all kind of defenders, all kind of distractions at you, right?
So when you're in the game and a motherfucker trying to get a rouse out of you,
do you ignore that nigga like Caitlyn is doing out there,
or do you feed into it and put yourself in jeopardy to be thrown out of the game
because you're woofing with a guy who was sent in the game?
Yeah, no, I just do the same thing that Caitlyn doing.
Doing the same thing.
Yeah.
So when you built from that, you got to wave that shit off.
Like, she bumped her.
She could have turned around and been like, yo, what's going on?
But this my house.
We just beat y'all ass.
Take your ass home.
Oh, thank you for that little,
the little kiss you just gave me.
Take that ass onto the fucking jet
and think about what I just did to you as a rookie.
It's gonna be a long motherfucking
10 years for these girls out there.
They don't get their shit together, get that hate out their heart.
She not gonna take it easy on y'all no more?
I wouldn't.
Especially after all this.
Even if they all cool too.
She could be cool with a lot of people behind the scenes.
Alright, it's come competition.
It just says what you're used to.
It's just certain people you can't do it to.
And I believe that.
Some people are off limits though.
Even though you're trying to... Magic bird
off limits?
Rookie Hayes,
everyone doesn't get Rookie Hayes.
That's what I said. 99% of people,
Rookie Hayes, you're going to get Rookie Hayes.
This whole draft class,
Rookie Hayes.
None of y'all
are in the public's
eyes special enough
not to go through Rookie Hayes.
When we last year, there's no Rookie Hayes in him.
When LeBron came, none of that.
When Kobe came, none of that. Right?
For the most part, I'm pretty sure when Steph started
getting in this shit,
if you barked his way,
it was going to be some...
No one cheap-shotted Steph
ever. Ever.
Ever.
Think about, like, when you...
You never seen someone give him, play dirty with him,
knock him down and all that shit.
They would talk, if he was in our era, he would have...
No, it would have been the same as when Jordan was in your era
and you was hitting him.
Rules change, niggas.
Stop it.
Rules change.
Stop it.
Flagrant foul.
It went from $25 to $5,000. It's like, wait, hold on, wait a minute. You better stop touching that, bro. Stop it. I don't want that. Flagrant foul! It went from $25 to $5,000.
Give me that rule change.
It's like, wait, hold on, wait a minute.
You better stop touching that, bro.
Stop touching.
I don't want that rule change.
Huh?
Movement change.
Change it.
Hey, that's what I said.
So it's...
Change it.
It's, you know, so, like, I don't see nothing, like, this ain't no different than what niggas
do, right?
You remember when Westbrook be doing his dance, somebody walk in front of him, he push him
out, like, it happens, right?
Let it go. I'm like, it happens, right?
That used to be funny.
It's just the mindful of you got to know your awareness now, right?
Your awareness now is everyone's watching.
So if you don't want to be thrown under the guillotine of hatred.
Which she did.
Which you got to be careful.
You made the decision to be to be lying. Yeah, we get it get away from my god
What I like about it is she sped up like it was about to be a boom
She kind of like it hit her her. It hit her. It turned into the girl.
Ah!
And like she was going in like, yeah, I'm about to check this shit out of you.
And then it went into like, ah!
Okay.
I feel like she's just...
At that point, she might as well have just...
Yeah, she might as well.
You was going to get the same treatment.
You might as well have done it.
Just full blown.
That's when it kicked in.
Like the truth kicked in.
It was like, don't you do this.
What you doing?
This is suicide.
Don't you...
But she was going too fast so so she couldn't slow down.
She regretted it right away.
You don't see her face when she bumped it?
She was like, oh, shit.
I just wanted to...
You seen it.
She was like, oh, shit.
The WNBA is...
Remember this happened in college.
Remember they tried to get rid of all fans storming the court.
After she twisted her ankle.
Right?
That was crazy.
That was crazy.
Right?
So it started then.
So this is not new.
It started in college, but we wasn't really paying attention.
She was more of a victim mentality then.
Yeah.
Oh, as you know, she targeted me.
Watching her video, she gave you that.
She the one who started it, but she had the victim mindset then,
where at least here she's not playing to the victim.
Because she's been there.
Now, imagine if she acts like a victim.
What if she were to fail?
Right.
Oh, my God.
That thing is done.
You know what I mean?
So it can go.
She can use white privilege real quick.
Man, doesn't that show to her toughness, though,
that she don't want to go play victim?
She's grown.
I mean, her growth from game one to now has been...
The Breonna Stewart screen?
But that's going to happen.
Like, she could get on some, like, yo.
She's like, you know what?
She realized her playing tough gets the respect from them.
Yep.
Right?
Getting back down.
If she goes and plays the victim and doing all the falling and flapping like she did in college,
I don't think the WNBA girls respect her like that.
Right.
So the fact that even during the meetings and during her interviews,
she, eh, you know, it is what it is.
It's part of the game.
We rookies.
Like, you know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
Those girls is like, okay, all right.
Cool. She ain't all right, cool.
She ain't.
Yeah, yeah.
I think you contributed all of this to Diana Taurasi challenging her early on.
Some people could say it was bitter and all of this stuff,
but I think as a competitor, her knowing her ability and her potential,
Diana wanted to challenge her to not think that it was going to be
an easy fucking road coming in here knowing I'm still here and the girls I know ain't going to let you just
come in here and take jobs and embarrass us.
And for the most part, it ain't easy.
It ain't easy.
Now, like, we...
She's doing good, but she's doing good in a talent that we didn't really...
You knew she had.
Everybody else wasn't expecting...
We was expecting, because she's averaged 27 to 30 for the last
four years. So, that's
what everyone expected.
If somebody would have said, she's going to average 17
this year, everybody would have been like,
no way.
At least 23.
I said at least 23.
At least.
Are you sure I said she could lead the league in assists?
Huh?
I'm pretty sure I said that. leave the league in his head her Pat, huh?
Her passing has been so good that it's overshadowed her scoring that her her scoring hasn't kicked in yet
Everybody's like oh my name these passes. She's making a goddamn. She's she's really good three straight games over 20 points I think so so when her three when her shot is kicking in and her scoring is coming
It's gonna be a whole different.
That's the comfort.
But she's still limited in her scoring.
Next year it's going to be 20 and 10 probably.
Next year after that.
Think about it in four years.
She's doing 17 and 8 now.
But you a point guard.
Remember when you had the 55 and then you said there was an energy change
where you became a point guard then and you started distributing.
He got punked. Oh, shit.
Just saying. He got punked.
You know what I mean? He hit the speed limit.
Damn. The man hit the speed limit.
Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo!
The gated community. Whoo!
That's the security. That's the security.
That ain't the cops.
Hey, how you doing, officer?
It was six and east.
You know how fast you was going?
No, officer. You know you was going 55 in the school zone?
Oh, OK, sir.
Michael Ray pulled his ass over.
Woo!
Here's the ticket.
Get him!
You're going too fast, young fella.
Slow that ass down.
His ass came into the game.
Brandon, you got it.
Brandon, come on, man.
We need to go.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Got to look out for this.
He's going over all the speed bumps slow.
You do.
Hey, hey.
He came to the league.
Hey, he was bumping the wheelies.
He was.
This my street. This my street. Y'all done? After that game.
Y'all done?
He was taking seven shots.
That was him, man.
That was him.
No, that was him.
No, it wasn't.
I set you up for the line.
He took it.
He took it out the air, nigga.
I got a different whiffy on his ass.
You definitely took that shit out the air, nigga.
I said, yeah, BJ, go ahead and take that.
Hell, nah.
Fuck that little nigga.
Anyhoo, so we asked to chat.
Don't let him do that.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go.impy on his ass. You definitely got Ditchie Whimpy on the ear. I said, yeah, BJ, go ahead and take that.
Hell no.
Fuck that little nigga.
Anywho, so we asked to chat.
Don't let him do that shit.
Randy, quickly before.
No, go ahead.
No, you know, I can't let you go out like that.
You can't let you go out like that. I'm back on the show tomorrow.
What?
You back tomorrow?
Yeah, I'm back tomorrow.
Okay.
You back tomorrow, okay.
All right.
Take that, girl.
I should have handed you the body bag, my nigga.
Body bag that man.
We need to locate the body bag.
Don't worry about it, man.
We got it.
We got it in back pockets.
So well.
They come out with it.
So we asked the chat, the WNBA is hating on Caitlyn or giving Caitlyn the rookie treatment.
65% said hating on Caitlyn.
Damn.
This is our chat, though.
This is our chat.
You know what I'm saying.
How many votes?
I'm close to 2,000 so far.
How many?
65%.
65 to 35.
All right, but let's keep this thing moving.
That's okay. Y'all hate for a living.
She should have been on that USA team.
Y'all would know.
Y'all would know.
She should have been on that USA team.
Say it again. That's what did it.
The way...
Come on. Come on, Larry. The way they was playing it out. The way they was Say it again. That's what did it. The way... Come on. Come on, Larry. The way
they was playing it out. The way they was playing it out.
The way that some of these players
were benched, they might as well have thrown some
rookies on there. Who was
benched? Lloyd.
Lloyd? He didn't play at all? Hell no.
What? No.
Kalia, until she
needed to save them in the France game.
That's the only time she played?
Yeah.
Yep.
They could have just put the two rookies out there.
They could have just put them on there.
They was going to have two leaders.
You remember my whole argument was, you're not going to play.
It's 12 players.
Three of them are not going to play.
You might as well use them as atmosphere.
But again, it is nice to have that gold medal on your resume so you don't want
to take that opportunity away from other players.
And she got three or four already, so it don't matter.
So Jewel, who? Jewel?
No, they were gold medalists being younger.
It was Kha's first gold medal.
Huh?
Kalia's first gold medal.
Yeah, like some of those girls, yeah.
Like even Diana, I'm like, like I called her Captain America now
because she could have said, no, I'm starting.
But the fact that at some point she realized, I ain't giving a shit.
We got better players on here.
Let me go ahead and step back and then be a captain from here.
That was an amazing, like, so when people say, well, she didn't do nothing.
I think she tweeted it, right?
Me and Sue Bird, we played the same amount of minutes
for this goal.
Like, nah, that ain't the same.
Don't discredit yourself like that.
No, yeah.
It takes a real veteran to...
Do that.
To take their pride and say, look, she's balling.
This is, we need her.
I'll coach the team.
So then we need, at some point, Captain America
to take that shield and give it to
the nigga with the wings,
the black dude. Well, she's not playing.
She's not playing no more.
That's what I'm saying. Hey, Diana.
Diana, take that shield, Captain America
shield, and give it to Caitlyn
and say, you now Captain
America. You don't have to give it.
It's been given. That is
not going to happen. Diana giving away? Physical. No, that ain't gonna happen. It's been given. It's been... That is not gonna happen.
What?
Diana giving away?
Physical...
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, I know passing the torch.
Listen.
Listen.
If I gotta choose between Diana and Caitlyn, who you think I'm going with?
I mean, no one's retired.
I can say...
She already retired?
Yes, she's retired.
This is her last year.
Oh, this is her last year?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can tell you this.
That last year just fucked up Caitlyn's first year. Even if it wasn't for... She's not playing in the Olympics in four years. Caitlyn's first year. I can tell you this. That last year just fucked up Kaylin's first year.
Even if it wasn't for that, she's not playing in the Olympics in four years.
I can tell you this.
Kaylin's first year, she ain't going to be the superstar on that team.
On the Olympic team?
No, that's not.
But she had the resume though.
No, no.
It's all right, though.
But just be who will be the superstar on the next 20 years.
Yeah, just the resume.
As far as a rookie resume, like that's tough.
It's being there and just having them on the team and getting ready for her.
No, I'm just saying, like, who's going to be the superstar?
Like, even though we have a Kaylin Clark push right now, the real juggernaut for that group is coming next year.
Like, I want to know if Paige would have entered the draft, what was Fever going to do?
They're going to pick Kaitlyn.
They're going to take Kaitlyn.
Yeah, they're going to pick Kaitlyn.
For sure.
Because of the hype?
Because she's a better player.
Yeah, the hype.
No, she's not.
I think as far as their need.
Yeah.
It's the same thing.
Kaylin is a more, no.
I mean, marketing-wise, you can lose with Kaylin.
And she has more firepower.
Paige is just as effective.
She's number one selling jersey right now.
Now, because she came in by herself.
I'm talking about if Paige would have entered the draft.
I think Kaylin fulfills the need in Indiana better than Paige would have.
I don't think either would have been a poor choice,
but as far as their need and how close they are to Iowa.
And how close they are to Iowa.
So, um...
So, you guys would have got Paige.
Yeah.
That would have been a good move, too.
Mm.
Good fact y'all didn't get Angel.
I was wondering why she didn't come out, like,
I guess because she wants to be number one next year.
Mm-hmm.
Or she wanted to take that.
Or she wanted to win a national championship.
She hasn't won one yet.
What pressure?
The Caitlyn Card pressure.
No, she's a thing.
You know they're in the same class, right?
Mm-hmm.
This college class, I mean, the college girls right now,
how they're moving and how they're presenting them,
they're doing it like as a unit.
I kind of like it.
Yeah.
Right now it's Paige, Flau'jae, and Juju,
and they're kind of like the big three of the college, and I really like how they're moving around like that.
I think it's cool.
I think they're spreading the love.
I think they learned from last year to make it not as divisive,
which I think could be a good thing for women's basketball.
So Flau'jae is in.
Obviously Flau'jae and Juju can't come out, but...
Yeah, that Achilles' heels is Paige.
From high school, she was the four-time all...
You don't like her? You don't like Paige?
16U. Think about it. 16U?
It's 16U, 17U, 18U, 19U.
I mean, shit would be different if Paige did not get hurt.
Yeah.
Or it could be the exact same, but we, 19 you. I mean, shit would be different if Paige did not get hurt. Yeah. Or it could be the exact
same, but we don't know. Nothing's changing.
Kaitlyn Clark numbered it regardless of Paige
do whatever the fuck she do. Nothing's changing.
No, her numbers could be the same, but
the attention would have been
different because she was hooping
like that her first
two years of Iowa. 27 again?
Yes. Yes. That's why I'm talking about
Paige. I'm talking about, I know what Kaitlyn's doing. I mean, she's got the fucking scoring record.
So she had to have been hooping from day one.
I remember because I was like the only person on earth outside of Iowa watching her.
And Paige was still in all the world.
And I was like, who is this little girl in Iowa?
And everyone was like, shut up.
Paige is playing.
She in Iowa.
Paige is playing.
She in Iowa.
Paige is playing.
Paige is playing.
I was like, okay, guys.
But where is Paige playing?
Caitlyn didn't...
UConn is known as what?
But that's what I'm saying.
The best woman.
A powerhouse.
The best woman.
The best ever.
So you go to that team,
you automatically are known as
probably the number one player in the class.
Well, she was.
She was the number one player in the class.
But then there's another player...
Number five.
...that's playing somewhere else.
Number five.
That's not a powerhouse.
Yeah. But she's killing. Yeah, that's what I'm five. That's not a powerhouse. Yeah.
You like underdogs.
But she's killing.
Yeah, that's what it's like.
It's underdogs.
She was the number fifth player in the underdogs.
She'd never been an underdog.
She'd been killing her.
She was killing the whole time she was there.
That's why it's a no-brainer.
AP player.
You like the underdog stories more than.
Because that's a no-brainer.
To me, it's a no-brainer.
AP player of the year went to.
As freshmen.
All the freshman award went to Paige.
That's cool.
She won player of the year, didn't she? She won the big award. Paige. That's cool. She won player of the
year, didn't she? She won the big award. Paige won the big award. She won player of the year
as a freshman. But where are we at now? I mean, what? What you mean? She about to come
out next year. Can we rewind? Can we rewind though? What's the point of trying to make
right now? I don't know. What is the point? No, I was just saying. I was saying when that
2028, when 2028, 2028 Olympic come in.
Who's going to be the star?
He's saying Paige.
I mean, besides Asia and the, besides Asia and what's her name?
Stewie.
Stewie.
But when it comes to the young talent.
They both going to be on there.
It's going to be Juju.
It's going to be Juju and Paige Buckman.
Wait, how many years?
Paige has four gold medals.
It's going to be, I think they're going to put.
Wait, you think Juju will be on there?
I don't know if they're going to put all three of them on there.
So it'll be her rookie season,
I believe?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It'll be her rookie season.
I don't think Juju
will make that team.
I mean, it's in LA.
Depending on how up,
it depends.
As a rookie?
I will say.
Triangle.
But they didn't let
Kaylin Parker.
Juju going to do
all the shit y'all.
Well, there's a process.
No, no, no.
They're going to have to start
going to all the camps
and training camps
Yeah, that'll be Juju's
second season to leave 2028. She'll be second, that'll be her second time No, no, no. They're going to have to start going to all the camps. Yeah, that'll be Juju's second season to leave 2020.
She'll be second, second, she'll be, that'll be her second time.
Second season, yeah.
It'll be her second year in the 2020 Olympics.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah, she could have a chance to make that team for sure.
Yeah.
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I mean, the good thing is that now you have some of these younger players on this Olympic team
instead of so many older players.
So I feel like the transfer of younger players getting on this Olympic team
is going to start happening faster than it has in the past.
Like Ka being a finals MVP, all these things,
and her being her first Olympic medal is like crazy.
But like that's just how- How old is she?
Ka, I don't even know.
She might be one or two years older than me.
Maybe.
I could tell y'all right now, 29 years old.
I know, we just same age.
Turns 30 August 28th.
Yeah, we just same age.
I think she came in one year before me maybe.
Yeah, see that...
Year eight, is it her eighth season?
Eight or nine?
They might not see the Olympics no more.
That's what I'm saying.
But it's good, though, because everything is happening quicker and earlier.
And where can I buy a Katelyn Clark jersey, man?
Go to Iowa.
I got to go to Iowa?
Yeah, you know, All-Star weekend is out there for the WNBA if you want to go.
Next year?
Indiana.
Ooh.
Good work out there.
Ooh, yeah.
What?
Nah, bro, because that Phoenix All-Star was crazy.
I don't know if they're going to be able to top that.
The Phoenix one?
Some of the hardest work out there, too.
It was very fun.
I should have went.
It was really fun.
Let's shift things, Albert.
You told me not to go.
Why?
There's going to be a bunch of spirits.
Because he said nobody was going to be looking at me.
Southwest flights, I can tell you that.
No, it was crazy.
Like nobody already looking at me.
It don't even matter.
It was fun.
I could just get right in.
That was my first All-Star though, so I don't really have anything to compare it to, but
other players said that that was like the best one.
Which one?
This past one.
In Phoenix?
Okay.
Shout out to the WNBA.
Shout out to the WNBA.
They put some effort into it.
Oh, they put a lot of effort into it. Like're going to give y'all hotels, y'all.
We had a nice place.
We had hair and makeup all weekend.
We had hair and makeup all weekend.
All weekend?
All weekend.
Not do your own makeup.
That was from the Players Association, though,
so shout out to our Players Association.
That was not the WNBA.
I always wanted to.
That was our Players Association.
See, y'all think I'm bullshit when I be saying that shit.
What? They gave them hotels. Usually, they don't take our bullshit when I be saying that shit. What?
They gave them hotels.
Usually, it was just come in the day of.
Playing, get the fucking water.
Looking like Kawhi Leonard.
Looking like Kawhi Leonard
from USA Basketball.
Just got your little bag.
They take care of us.
They take care of us, okay?
And we all looked good.
They got a couple rows. Or you Greyhound, OK? The last fight out. And we all looked good. The whole team. They got a couple rolls.
Or you Greyhound, and then you got to catch their bus.
Oh, Lord.
They treat y'all like real athletes now.
Love it.
Let's shift things back over to the NBA.
Let out the Kalen Clark.
Let's just start getting shit.
You never knew, like, we get free meals?
Damn, that was not a thing when I got to the league.
Damn.
Feed yourself.
Damn. OK. OK. Eat. I got to the league. Damn. Feed yourself. Damn.
Okay.
I got no ends, coach.
I can't even eat this morning.
Look who I hang with.
Look who I hang with, coach.
Look who I hang with.
It's crazy when you hear things like, for the first time, some of them are like, this feels like I feel like a pro.
I feel like a pro. And there's still's still like work to do work but from my rookie year
to now it's like night and day mmm it's like a four-star hotel I mean Applebee's
to know boo no boo you know is that someone can be noble right so my first
two seasons the double share rooms my first two seasons.
You double? Y'all was sharing rooms?
My first two seasons.
Jesus.
Build team chemistry.
I was sharing rooms.
Y'all wasn't getting no work in that room.
They wasn't getting no work.
Work none.
I'm talking about on the laptop, man.
Work is genderless.
Work on the laptop, man.
What y'all talking about?
All right, let's shift it back over to the NBA.
Type in.
Giannis is one of the most dominant
players in the league with one of his only
weaknesses being his jumper.
It appears Giannis has been putting in some work
to address that issue.
FIBA recently posted a video
of Giannis' new look jumper
from this summer with his outside shot
looking a lot more fluid.
Last season, Giannis shot a career-high
61.1% from the field,
becoming the first player in NBA history to average 30 or more points
while shooting 60% from the field.
But he was also 27% from three-point line,
and I believe 27.5% the year before.
But he's shown that he can be good at shooting outside shot.
His rookie year, he shot close to 35% from three,
but those numbers have dwindled ever since then.
Gil, you've talked about if Giannis was able to add...
Can we do that video again?
I don't want to mess up his whole summer routine
because I'm pretty sure this looks great.
Okay.
Okay, jumper.
Okay.
Oh.
Okay, jumper. Okay. A little hitch. Okay, jumper. Okay. Okay. Jumper. Okay. Oh. Okay. Jumper. Okay.
A little hitch.
Okay. Jumper. Okay. Okay. Jumper.
A little fade away.
Okay. So my advice to him is we know you're going to do a jumper, right?
Because your whole momentum slows down, right?
When you're driving, you're in full speed.
When you're not driving, you are walking into it to shoot it.
Now this is going to be the things you're going to have to work on. You're
going to have to work on coming full speed. Like you're about to drive, let everybody work, uh,
back up and pull up your jumper from there. So instead of walking into it to shoot it,
you're going to have to run full speed and then learn how to decelerate to shoot.
And then you're going to have to learn is to come in like this
and accelerate.
So we can't tell what you're about to do.
See, if they can read your shot,
they're gonna know how to play you, right?
So if I know you're about to shoot a jumper,
you're coming into it just like this to pull up.
So if someone decides to jam you,
if you can't accelerate off of this right here,
then you're gonna be easier to read. I could fake at you. Yeah, I can't accelerate off of this right here then you're gonna be easier to read
like a fake at you yeah i can right you're sitting here ah and if you can't and then go
right so those are the only two things you need to work on right slowing coming in like you're
about to shoot it and then accelerate into the basket or coming real real fast and decelerating
to shoot that jumper versus just walking into it every single time
now i can we can read you're gonna have to huh so the jumper look good though yeah the jumper
look no i'm not like the jumper looks great it don't have that that like didn't have like a
little hit or something that's like the jumper itself looks great even though it's progression
to me it's who's the shooting coach who's working with him because all the shit you just said is
supposed to be done while he's getting better right
now.
Well, we don't know.
We got to see it because they're going to play this on.
We got to be able to knock it down first before we can do it.
Facts.
No, no, no.
But do you think if he starts knocking it down consistently, guys are not going to start
defending him closer, are they?
No, no.
He's still so much better going forward.
But it's still like if he wants to to shoot jumper he still it has to look the same
Yeah, cuz it's on about when you slow down to shoot your jumper. You're showing me you're not confident in this jumper
I already know you think you're gonna miss it cuz you got a slow all the way
That's why he does it that slow.
Consciously, when you get it
and you already know they're going to back up,
shoot that shit.
Ain't no...
Why can't he just go to where he's comfortable?
But you remember, this is...
More like how KD comes in.
This is...
That's never...
Because this is college.
Because this is college.
I mean, not college,
but this is a Euro smaller court, right?
When they're backing up,
they're backing up to them near the free throw line.
Facts.
When NBA 3, they're backing up to the high school 3. But they're backing up, they're backing up to them near the free throw line. When the NBA three, they're backing up to the high school
three. But they're loading up too.
So you think about them backing up
and they're loading. I need you to
just keep going. Remember like
Westbrook. I don't know why he stopped.
Remember how Westbrook came back with that mid-range
jumper? He's going so fast.
Motherfuckers just, they turn
around and they're running to the meet him at the rim. I'm going so fast. Motherfuckers just, they turn around and they're running to the
meet him at the rim. I'm going to stop right here.
But that was something he worked on.
Like you was just saying, that's supposed
to be a part of the whole shooting progression.
Is you work your shot all the way back,
then you come in there, full speed, boom, boom, boom.
One dribble, pull up full speed. All those
things. I don't know if he can slow down.
We just got to see it in real time.
It's easy to say it right now because it's how he's been played, right?
The first preseason game, we get to really see if he's moving fast to shoot it.
Because that's usually the problem, and that starts from a young age where deceleration is the key to being a great shooter, right?
Wall had struggles with that.
Usually faster guys struggle with it.
Ty Lawson.
Right?
You know, that's Ben Simmons' problem.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Somebody like Rondo or Jason Kidd.
Jason Kidd.
They're moving so fast, and when they want to shoot their jumper,
they don't know how to decelerate to get it off.
Yeah.
Right?
And sometimes your shooting coach, he doesn't know that
because he never really did it.
Right.
That's my whole point.
So that's a thing that
you have to understand.
There's certain guys
that have to learn
how to decelerate their speed
to become a jump shooter, right?
Being a spot-up shooter
and walking into it, great.
Yeah.
But they're not going to play the game like that.
So someone learning how to come real fast
and then slow down for those you have to be.
Like, you were fast and knew how to decelerate.
And he could shoot, yeah.
But that starts from when we're little.
Yeah.
Right, right.
Yeah, and you think about him too, though.
Giannis put on muscle.
He shot 35%.
From his rookie year?
So he put, and he's not shooting.
You know how much you got to shoot when you're putting on muscle?
You have to get ahead.
Even after the workout, you got to put that muscle memory to rest, right?
You can't shoot, then lift.
And that's the worst.
You can't do that.
And he was probably doing that early on.
Shooting, lifting, going home, coming back, brick, brick, brick, brick,
because you're so strong. So now you can see he's trying to. You got to coming back brick brick brick brick because you're
so strong so now you can see he's trying to weights off yeah you're shooting you can even
see in that that one it was like that yeah you like that strong shit you just out there
yeah what's up we already know even even with like demar even with a shooting coach
not bad even even with a shooting coach. Not bad. Even with a shooting coach, that shooting
coach still has to understand
you. Yes.
Right? Like, you still got to
understand you. There's, like, levels of
like, certain type of things. Like,
right, I have to be able to look at
someone that's really fast
and somebody that's really slow. Right?
Because, like, somebody like Steph Curry,
he's not as fast, but his shot is quick.
So they learn how to get his shot off quick.
Now guys who have faster feet
got to learn how to slow their shot down.
Because if not, if you just say,
all right, run to the three-point line and chuck it,
them motherfuckers are going to be flying.
It's going to be all running shots.
And when you think about shooting progression
for a guy like Giannis,
you can't just start him in running in, jumpers. Like he's a jump shooter. You got to start
literally from underneath the basket to the free throw line. I believe as a good shooter,
it starts at the free throw line. That's form shooting where you can literally find out where
the ball going to go every time your technique, the ball going left, right, all that type of shit.
If Giannis can't focus on the free throw line and get the nerves off of him where he can
focus on all that, it's going to be tough for him to ever get a real consistent jumper.
I mean, it's getting better.
I mean, the older you get, they say your jumper gets better.
You know why?
Because you work on it more because you're losing everything else.
There you go.
Right.
And that becomes a problem.
And that was his first.
Before you lose it. What are you working on? Work on it. I mean, he's been working on it. I else. There you go. Right. And that becomes a problem. And that was his point. Before you lose it, work on it.
I mean, he's been working on it.
I mean...
No, no.
I mean, no, you can see,
but he will turn into something different
if he adds something.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, you just doing you,
you're going to average 29 to 31.
Mm-hmm.
Which is crazy.
Which is crazy.
Your 36, 37 comes from
not getting hit as much,
hitting jumpers.
Yeah.
Right?
Yeah.
Once you're hitting jumpers,
getting cup,
your free throws naturally
get better in your mind.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
So that puts you up to 37
because now you're making
more free throws.
Now you're not sitting
at 67%.
Now you're sitting
at 87%.
Yep.
True.
Does Giannis first bow at Hall of Famer regardless.
Oh, fuck yeah.
But how important is it for Giannis to improve his second and third level scoring
as his career now goes on and he starts to not be able to do something good?
Second, third level.
What is that?
His jump shot.
Social media, three level scoring.
There's five levels, as you pointed out.
But I'm saying just from the jumper.
You saying he's just one level right now?
I mean, you know, jumper's not as consistent as it needs to be.
I'm not going to say that he's just one level, but if he can strengthen that.
I mean, if he can get that two down pack.
The one-two?
If he can get the one-two down pack.
What is the two, though?
The 13, 15 foot jump shot?
The coming down?
If he can get that.
Make threes when you can.
He don't need to be a three point shot.
Yeah.
He can shoot.
If I'm guarding him
and he's shooting three, you're bailing me out.
Cool.
I don't get in foul trouble.
I don't get embarrassed. You don bailing me out cool. I I don't get in foul trouble. I don't get embarrassed
You don't fuck my ego up right cool
If you want to go six for eight from the three-point line a be my guess
Like that's better than you trying to dunk and now I got to try to block you and try to stop you it
I'm coming here. You done year rolled across me. I don't jump this way you done dunked on me now
I'm on sports it I got two three fouls. Now I'm out of the game. Like, shoot jumpers.
Ooh. If John Morant, if I'm guarding
John Morant and John Morant want to shoot jumpers,
thank you, sir.
That's better than you coming down,
you done swiped me and then you sitting here
coming on and coach is sitting
there like, yo, can't stay in front of him?
No. I'm trying, shit.
That's why I'm following back here. The motherfucker quicker than I thought.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So sometimes, you know, there following back here. The motherfucker quicker than I thought. Yeah, hell yeah.
You know what I mean?
So sometimes, you know, there's certain guys that if they want to settle for threes, you
shouldn't.
But if you can shoot it at a solid enough percentage, isn't that able to extend your
career though?
Yeah, no, for them.
I think John's driving to the cup all the time.
We love to see those crazy dunks.
Like Blake Griffin back then shooting jumpers.
Cool. But then he progressed to the guy that can hit that. Like, Blake Griffin back then shooting jumpers, cool.
But then he progressed to the guy that can hit that. I'm pretty sure in the playoff, Duncan was like, thank you, Lord.
I got five fouls at the top of the fourth, and I didn't foul out.
What's the expansion of Giannis' game?
What happens when he hits that shot, right?
They got to play up.
What happens when you play up? They're still not got to play up. What happens when you play up?
They're still not going to play up.
They're not going to play up.
If he's hitting it?
If Giannis is shooting that shot and making it,
that means everybody else is not shooting
because he's going to want to keep taking them.
No, I'm talking about pick and pop with Dame.
The shot that he's not shooting that we complain about,
which is why they don't play good together,
if I can hit that pocket pass on the catch,
oh, man, you guys, it's a whole different movement.
Buck's winning again.
Buck's winning again.
If he can hit that shot on the pick, it's no problem.
He's not going to have that shot enough
because he's not going to take that shot.
He will have it enough on the pick and roll with Damian.
And if he's hitting it, he's going to have confidence to keep taking it.
That's what I'm saying, but people are not going to start guarding him
because if Giannis is hitting 10, 15-foot twos, cool.
How will that help Dame's game schematically for the Bucs?
Confidence that his teammate is going to hit that shot.
But does that open up more scoring opportunities for Dame?
Hell yeah.
Because now they have to play the pick and roll different.
You got to pick your poison.
Figure it out.
Is it going to switch or come off?
Now I ain't got to worry about,. I pick your poison. We won't
You know what
I'm not mad at I'm not mad at his
I'm not mad at it. He only takes about one three a game. You honest?
Yeah.
He doesn't, like, you know, I'm sitting here thinking he takes about four or five.
So the fact that he just takes the ones that just, nigga, you going wide open.
You know, I'm not too mad at that.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm not mad at that.
Because, I mean, he's not settling as much as it seems.
Well, he averaged about two a game last season.
Yeah, exactly.
At the highest, close to five in 2020.
But he's not settling.
He clearly works on that shot.
But we talk about when you're in position, swing, swing,
don't be afraid to shoot that shot.
These are like the parables of basketball.
If you're the guy that's going to decline shooting a wide-open swing, swing,
in the Florida offense, bro, get your fuck off the court.
That's your shot.
We don't give a fuck if you miss it, bro.
Shoot it.
Your percentage is 40%, 50%, 30%.
It's still a percentage.
It ain't zero, bro.
You know what's crazy?
Jokic, because I'm thinking about, like, pick and pop.
Jokic don't take as many threes as you would think.
No, he don't.
He just hit them with his—
He attack.
He's going to pump fake it. He's going to pump fake it.
He's going to pump fake it.
He's going to hit an important one, though.
Yeah, yeah.
That's a two-one.
Usually, if AD's guarding.
I was going to get like a little...
Yeah, that's what I said.
A little floater.
Yeah, Embiid takes way more threes than Jokic.
Yeah, for sure.
And Jokic is the better three-point shooter.
Damn, no.
Embiid, 38% from the three?
Yeah, bro.
That motherfucker nice.
But you mentioned Dame before.
Speaking of Dame, he's been one of the most prolific scoring guards
during his 12 seasons in the league.
Dame has averaged 24 or more points in nine straight seasons,
made seven All-NBA teams in his career.
So Dame was on Jeff Teague's Club 520 podcast recently
and had this to say about how his career has been viewed so far.
Well, you can shoot off the dribble though.
I put that in, you and Steph in a different room with that shit.
Hard to do.
It's a harder shot, they more contested.
Yeah. People guarding you harder.
Yeah.
It's different, bro.
Hell yeah, bro, they definitely don't talk about it.
They act like I don't be doing what I've been doing.
This may be my 13th season.
You've been going crazy for a long time.
You've been cold.
It's been a long time.
That's what we want to hear. Go crazy.
It's been a long time.
I'm just saying.
My time in the league,
when I think about how
many people have been very good
over that time, and then it's been more people very good than have been very good over that time,
and then it's been more people very good,
and more people very good for a couple years,
it ain't been that many people that have been here the whole time
since I've been in the league that just been doing it over and over and over.
But I think people just get bored with consistency.
And I ain't loud, but like, should I have been
doing it that long and winning?
It ain't like I've been doing it and I'm playing 14
and I just never play in the playoffs.
So while Dame
was talking about the credit he doesn't deserve,
a golf game
is broken out here in the arena.
A little putt-putt.
Go ahead. Mr. B. We missing him.
Mr. B versus
Terry Larry. Shots on the line. Yeah, Mr. B versus. Where did that come from?
Terry Larry.
Shots on the line.
We take it out.
Can we go back home?
Come on.
Yeah, that's one round.
Come on.
Yeah, that's nasty, ain't it?
Is it obvious?
What was that?
Tequila?
Tequila.
Is it obvious, Brent?
It's very obvious.
OK.
So we heard what Dame had to say.
Do you agree with Dame saying he doesn't get the credit he deserves?
Dame, you're top 75.
The fuck is you talking about, bro?
Bro, you top 75 all time.
5,000 players.
Played in the NBA.
You top 75.
What kind of credit?
What more do you want?
Yeah.
I mean, shit.
You got to end up.
I've been trying to figure out, like, bro, you...
Yeah, I'm just, yeah, what credit?
Bro, what else?
You top 75 over Kyrie, T-Mac, Dwight Howard, Vince Carter.
He's unproblematic Hooper.
Bro, you unbelievable, bro.
You're unproblematic Hooper.
He's a what?
Unproblematic Hooper.
Like, that sucks.
That sucks that when you're unproblematic,
people don't want to talk about you as much.
Yeah.
See, that's the problem.
You got to be destructive.
Man.
When you hoop.
You got to have some kind of personality.
Yeah.
You should sock somebody else.
You know what it is?
Sock somebody else.
Damn, damn.
Tripping this year.
Hey, man.
No, like, like.
I ain't got nothing to prove, man.
He got, he got, He got cheated a few years.
Cheated?
He got top 75.
Out of all NBAs?
Yes.
Yeah, out of all NBAs.
The man averaged 25 and damn 7.
Yeah, them all NBAs definitely.
25 and 7.
Didn't make the All-Star game.
I remember that.
But was all NBA second team.
So he was the second best point guard in the NBA, but didn't make the All-star game. I remember that. But was all NBA second team. So he was the second best point guard in the NBA
but didn't make the all-star game. So you cheated
him out of all-star. Then the very
next year, he averaged 27
and 6.
27, 6, and 5 and didn't
make nothing.
Not an all-star game, not an all-NBA.
But what does that have to do with him?
So,
what credit does he want?
Because his legacy is missing things that should be there.
Well, he wants to be higher up the pole?
Yeah.
You don't have as many all-NBAs as...
Who's on those all-NBA teams, Phil?
I mean, what top 75 don't have all...
I mean, how do you think Kyrie Irving...
Don't have the credit that he had.
How do you think Kyrie Irving, Phil?
Man. Credit? I'm arie Irving feel? Man.
Credit?
I mean, shit, you talking about credit.
I'm a champion.
I'm a champion.
I'm not top 75.
Huh?
They both can feel that way.
Who?
Kyrie and Dame.
He feels the same way.
They both can feel that way.
How?
Dame not a champion?
It don't matter, but Kyrie feels the same.
But Kyrie feels the same.
But they can feel like they don't get enough credit
for where they should be getting credit.
But what... I know... I know... Kyrie's not top 75 But they can feel like they don't get enough credit for where they should be getting credit. But what?
I know Kyrie's not top 75.
Dame is.
Oh, yeah.
Kyrie's done more than Dame.
That was an individual player.
Yes.
And so Dame should feel like, yo,
even though my peers respect me,
the fans may not be giving me more credit than I need
or that I want,
but, bro, you're top 75.
That's voted by your peers.
Yeah.
That's a committee of Top 75.
They voted them niggas in.
They can't take you out of that.
So you are well respected amongst your peers.
You know, Kyrie's a three-time All-NBA player.
Damon's a seven while being cheated for a few.
Mm-hmm.
What does that mean? You said he did more.
I said as an individual player.
Yeah, take the championship away.
As an individual player.
Take the championship away.
But you say you was quick to put Kyrie in front of Dame as an individual player.
Because that's my opinion.
But you said because he's a champ.
Yeah.
So take the championship away.
You still think that?
Yes.
He played with LeBron James.
He played with Kevin Durant.
He played with a number of players
and been a very effective...
Wait, is this conversation
of who's a better basketball player?
Just Kyrie Irving or Dame Lillard?
No, just the credit.
I feel like I'm saying that.
Whose body of work is better?
Career-wise.
Career-wise.
Who's getting ignored more?
Yeah.
Basically.
Who's getting less credit
than they're they ignored more?
Dames should understand
that his shit is solidified.
Well, I mean,
look at the market
he went to, though.
Right, he's in Portland.
But that's...
Like, the market has a lot...
You know, let's be honest.
And that's what people
don't understand.
From Portland.
Coming from Portland.
And you play it with somebody
who's already that guy.
Already that guy
and already won it.
So, of course,
like, we're not...
You're number two now.
Number two, bro. It, you're number two now.
Number two, bro.
It's not about number two.
It's about the legacy of how you look at Dame and his resume versus somebody who's in a bigger market.
Right?
You're talking about Kyrie went to Boston.
Right?
He went to.
He could sell shoes.
He went to Brooklyn.
Right?
So he's been in some big markets, right, where people like I know him.
People don't understand.
Your market dictates you too, right? And you've been in, you said in Portland, damn near probably five, six years too long. Yeah. Well, that's what happens when you... Without being problematic, right?
With your skill level, you should have been sitting there like a Westbrook talking shit
because your game backed it up. And the fact that he's a quiet dude and you just want everybody...
And people are just like,
oh, Dame don't care.
Right?
Exactly.
27 and what?
It's okay.
It's all right.
He'll be all right.
You know, if Dame was in a bigger market,
trust me,
we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
But you got to think, too.
I don't know why.
But you got to think.
You play in Portland, right?
You signed to Adidas.
Like, if you would have signed to Nike,
you would be bigger.
Yes. If he would have signed to Nike, if he signed to Nike playing in Portland, right? You signed to Adidas. Like, if you would have signed to Nike, you would be bigger. Yes.
If he would have signed to Nike, if he signed to Nike playing in Portland.
If he would have been Nike signed to Portland, he would have been on the shelf.
He would have been bigger.
No, he wouldn't.
He's in Portland.
He still would have been.
Ooh, name a player.
He has the swoosh behind him.
Kyrie played in Cleveland and was still selling more shoes than a lot of players.
Was still selling more shoes.
LeBron wasn't even there.
No, he wasn't. He was still selling shoes. I didn't even know. Yeah, LeBron James. Was still selling more shoes when LeBron wasn't even there.
No, he wasn't.
He was still selling shoes.
I didn't even know he had a signature.
He didn't have a signature.
As a rookie?
No, I-
He didn't have a signature as a rookie?
No, wait.
No, before LeBron got there, what was it, two or three years?
No.
Okay.
Four years before LeBron got there.
Four years.
Yeah, like four years.
He had a signature shoe by then.
Yeah, he had a signature shoe for sure.
Uncle Drew, like, Nike is-
Uncle Drew wasn't there before he got there.
All that came from...
But what I'm saying is he had the machine behind him.
Dame ain't had the machine behind him like that.
Adidas ain't...
Like, if he was signed to Nike, Dame is a bigger athlete.
So you think his credit could come more from marketing?
Yeah.
His marketing department ain't doing it.
Because his visibility, too.
His motherfuckers be like, yo, we see Dame more.
The way Dame was playing in Portland and shooting them
threes and come on, bro.
Yeah, it was supposed to be.
Come on, bro.
The marketing.
Campaign is behind him.
Come on, bro.
The campaign.
But they did have campaign behind him.
I mean, they have campaign behind him.
It ain't hitting.
You in Portland and that's Nike Town.
It's his personality, though.
He's like very quiet.
He keeps taking a shower.
But he did the Hulu shit.
He raps.
He raps.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that's where the credit come from.
It's like Dame Lillard out there, logo Lillard,
and he in the booth spitting these bars. Bro, where's the marketing comes from. It's like Dame Lillard out there, logo Lillard, and he in the booth
spitting these bars.
Bro, where's the marketing?
Where's the marketing?
But think about...
Huh?
Kyrie got the shoe a year before,
which is a year before LeBron came.
LeBron came.
Yeah, I know.
But the Cavs were...
Thank you.
Boo-boo.
And he sold a lot.
No, he didn't.
We don't know.
Huh?
His first shoe,
Kyrie Irving's first shoe
didn't sell?
For sure. Kyrie Irving was first shoe didn't sell? For sure.
Kyrie Irving was, like, top three in shoe sellings.
For sure.
When LeBron was there, yes, we know.
Because now the spotlight is on you.
Then from there, you go to Boston.
From there, you go to Brooklyn.
So, yeah, you're big.
Like, you've had the spotlight on you.
I was the number one pick.
I mean, you're right.
I'm the number one pick.
No, you're not.
But I'm saying you had the spotlight on you.
I'm the number one pick. No, you're not. Right, right. But I'm saying you had the spotlight on you. I'm the number one pick.
Look, you came from what, D...
What was Dame?
Weber College?
Like, what I'm saying is...
D1. It was still D1.
What if Dame had...
What if Kyrie had Dame's resume?
Small market to a small market to a small market.
What if Dame...
What if Kyrie had Dame's resume?
Sign a Nike?
Just his resume.
I mean, shit. I mean, the way he played... What do you mean, what if? I mean, shit, the way he played... What do you mean, what if Kyrie had Dame's resume? Sign a Nike? Just his resume.
I mean, shit.
I mean, the way he played.
I mean, shit, the way he played.
What do you mean, what if?
A no championship?
How big would Kyrie be as an individual?
Kyrie would be like Trae Young.
No.
Kyrie's a three-time All-NBA player.
Dame is a seven-time. That means he was top. He's top three guards in the NBA
seven years. But you just said that
Dame got cheated.
So if Dame can get cheated,
guess who else can get cheated? No, I'm saying you put him back in this market
because Dame has been in Portland.
That's what I'm saying. You said he averaged 25
and something, 27 and something.
And you give that to Kyrie and you're
now talking, you're defending Kyrie
with being a seven-time all-NBA player, eight-time All-Star.
You're talking about a different, you're talking about he's top ten best point guards ever.
So we're seeing Kyrie.
Dame's resume and stats with Kyrie's situation from beginning to end.
Yes.
Okay.
Because I guarantee you, I guarantee you, if we would have took the names off of it, if we would have took the names off of it,
if we would have took the names off of it
and said, which one is Kyrie,
you would have all went to,
if you take the championship off,
you would have all went to Dame Leonard
and said, that's his status.
No, we wouldn't have.
No, we wouldn't have.
Because Dame is playing on a team
where he has to do 27.
He's the only guy.
Kyrie made the all-star game with nothing
in Cleveland.
Kyrie deserves way more than three All-NBAs.
That's a fact.
And he deserves top 75.
But I think Dame tripping on the he not getting recognized.
I just want to know what outside of the All-NBA games that he did.
You got this.
You got this.
You got this.
You got this.
No one gives credit for being a top two, three-point guard this whole time.
When? Anytime in his career. No one's no one gives I credit for being a top two three point guard this whole time when?
Anytime in his career no one's ever so back so so you want us to go back to 2016 17 to talk about that
We carry wasn't the best point guard
What's I don't know if I was the best point guard?
Well you saying date would you say and we just got my name Dame the best one
Dame up Dame well now it's started putting step in that top point guard conversation the Dame was like
Why am I also not in that conversation? Cuz I do the same shit. Who's the second best shooter in NBA and guards?
And then see
If you take curry out of it, who's the best shooting? Who was the best point? Who's the best shooter point guard?
Hey, you gotta be
If you take curry out who is the best like trey young
over dame who owns how many how many three-point contests does dame actually own
and we pretend that he's not a shooter i mean how many how many uh three-point contests has
trey been in i don't think he's been in any. He's been in one.
Okay.
You didn't get beat?
I think Trey Young is Lil' Steph.
I do.
That's my opinion.
I think he's that good of a three-point shooter.
I think Trey Young is a great three-point shooter.
He just doesn't have the shoot-like game mentality.
I think Dave is an excellent three-point shooter.
He's excellent, but you got Steph, so it's like...
And Steph is a three-point guy. He's excellent, but you got Steph, so it's like... And Steph is a three-point god, so...
It's like being a dunk champ
or just being a very great dunker with Vince Carter.
So Dame went back-to-back three-point content.
You know what I mean? It's like, you know...
Dame got to change his marketing.
It's like, oh, shit, Vince is here.
Dame, 37% from three for his career.
Trae Young, 35.5%
so we're rounding up
to 36 out of respect
it's markets man
it's just markets
and the NBA
lets you know
who we gonna push
that's just how that works
mm-mm-mm
no you get credit man
we fuck with you
no for sure
you just gotta change
his marketing people
well he's gonna
that
he has to change
his mentality too or do more or do more do more
Yeah, it's yeah, they can put all this stuff behind them. We need to catch you on TMZ coming out the club 2 a.m
What's up? Not 40 the next
That's why people fuck with Damon
I hate that he thinks that people don't give him credit because a lot of people fuck with Dame and his game and who he is
So I don't like when he's one. I don't like hearing that. Yeah, it's kind of like quest like he's questioning
Yeah, like he's people really uncertain what he does and who he is. Oh, you're a killer. We're certified
I gotta pop out with gorilla. Hmm. No. Oh god, please don't do that. Dame to me. You don't need that
He needs something he needs to get struck. No, yes
Come to the court Please don't do that, Dave. Too bad. He don't need that. He needs to get destructive. He doesn't need... No, he doesn't.
It's too late, man. Be yourself.
That should have come to the court.
Should have done that five years ago.
Yeah.
No, I'm just playing.
But yeah, no.
Too old for this.
It's definitely too late.
His brand itself needed to be in a bigger market, right?
He should have went to New York.
To be in a smaller market, to get the recognition, you have to be wilder.
You think it would have been that in Miami?
Miami would have changed that?
Yes.
For sure.
For sure.
I hate that for him.
He was too loyal.
DJ, everybody,
just be out.
I'd still be a Heat fan right now.
I'd still be a Heat fan.
I'd still be a Heat fan.
For sure.
Yeah, I hate that
they did him like that.
Yeah.
He'd be all right.
You tough, right?
You tough, right?
I mean, he top 75. You tough, right? You tough, right? I mean, he's top 75.
You tough, right?
He could just walk around and say, I'm top 75.
Niggas don't get credit every day, B.
I mean, that ain't nothing to worry about.
Top 75, he paid.
You still signed that?
I mean, you know, that ain't...
Like, I don't like top 75.
I need a number.
I need a number.
Oh, which...
I want to know where y'all at.
That's not...
It's not an order. No, I need order. He had 75. I want to know where y'all at. It's not an order.
No, I need order.
He had 75.
I know.
Hell no.
He's not at 75, Rashad.
Hell no.
He's last on the list to you?
Hell no.
You crazy as hell.
Come on, stop playing.
Don't do that.
Don't do that, Rashad.
You're crazy.
What you talking about?
I can name you.
The names that's been in there, they've been in there forever. I can name you 45 people from the 70s, 60s, 50s that don't belong in the no more.
No more?
You got 5,000 points, 4,000 rebounds.
Okay?
We all got bad.
Not me.
I don't have that. Okay, we all got back Yeah, yeah, who did you say y'all played again to
Evan I'm pretty sure he got more than,000. Yes, he do. He do. He probably do. For sure. You mentioned Marcus.
All right, so let's talk about the NBA schedule release.
The NBA release schedule for the upcoming season last week,
including all of the national TV games across ESPN, TNT, ABC, and NBA TV.
Of course, this is TNT's last season.
Oh, they finna act a fool.
So we've got the list right here.
The Lakers have the most national TV games
this season with 39.
Of course.
Not enough if you ask us.
We got Bronny.
Not enough.
Yeah, Bronny.
We got Bronny Jr.
Don't move the needle.
Get him over the top.
Followed by the Warriors with 36.
Warriors had the most games last year,
I believe, with 41.
Naturally not making the playoffs.
Gotta give some of those back.
Put some of those back in the offering plate.
Celtics and Knicks are tied for third with 34 games each.
Rashad's favorite team is New York Knickerbockers.
Nickies.
And the Sessos.
This nigga change teams every fucking year, bro.
Followed by the Madison Suns who each have 30.
Nuggets with 29.
Bucks and Sixers each have 27.
And the Wolves and Thunder with 25.
So the New Look Clippers and Spers each have 27. And the Wolves and Thunder with 25. So the New Look Clippers
and Spurs both have 21.
What?
National TV games
with the Grizzlies and Cavs rounding out the top half
of the league with 17 and 16 games respectively.
That's crazy that some teams only have four.
You can get invited to a game?
Some of those are NBA TV games, so it's
a little bit...
That's bad.
And I guarantee, listen, the four is playing against somebody who got 39.
Like they overlapped?
They're not playing each other.
They're not playing each other.
Oh, no, they might be playing each other.
Just get one out the way.
The boo-boo ball.
Well, I just hope we at least get invited to a game this year.
So we've been asked to pull up to San Antonio.
Damn, that's crazy.
82 games in all.
Your guys are Lakerslander preventing us from getting the invite to crypto.
That sucks.
Clippers will be at their new bathroom-laden Intuit Dome.
Who played for the Lakers to get 39 games?
I think just, you know, Adam Silver being of sound mind and body said, you know what?
LeBron James.
We got Bron and Bronny.
That's a big check, bro.
Bron and Bronny.
Bro, they got to get the first father-son assist score.
They have to get the best chance to get it themselves.
How many times I've told y'all, man, y'all better look at history.
Them top four.
What?
Thank you.
Them top four.
I was like, what are you waiting on. Them top four. I was like, what are you waiting on?
Them top four.
Besides the Warriors, the other three has held the NBA down.
It is the NBA's bread and butter.
As long as one of those teams is good, the NBA is good.
If all of the teams are good, the NBA is booming.
Which one? One of the first two teams are good, the NBA is booming. Which one?
One of the first two teams are good.
All four.
No, he's talking about the Lakers, Celtics, Knicks.
Celtics, Lakers, Knicks.
Out of the four, if one of them.
If one of them is good, the NBA is good.
Okay.
Right?
The NBA is good.
If you got all three, booming.
If Chicago's in there, Philadelphia's in there the NBA is
is is and then if you get stars remember this starts when the TV in the 80s right
Lakers Celtics was built Lakers Celtics Philly that was it right it was them
three then Chicago with Jordan so when those four teams was balling, as long as you have superstars at the Lakers, Celtics, Knicks, Philadelphia,
the NBA is booming.
If those teams are all bad at the same time, it's a rough year.
So as we already know, some of those teams,
including the Lakers, will be booming this year.
Maybe some others, like the Warriors, may not.
Oh, Warriors.
But Bron and Bronny set the record for Father-Son National TV.
Hey, I love when I'm right, though.
About that.
Hey, do we have...
There was a tweet someone wrote.
And I made a statement.
You made a statement about a California... I made a statement about a California team.
Our state's capital.
And there was a pushback from...
I'm just going to say Sacramento.
There was a pushback from Sacramento.
And do you have that by...
So we have the tweet.
That came from Darren Fox. Darren Fox. What did you have that by... So we have the tweet. That one came from De'Aaron Fox.
De'Aaron Fox...
What did you say, Gil?
After DeMar DeRozan went to the Kings,
Gil was a little perturbed
that he didn't pick a larger market like the Lakers.
So De'Aaron Fox responded,
said Chicago is the third most populated city
in the country and San Antonio's top ten.
By the way, this was in regards to DeMar DeRozan
and his choice to...
Which clearly these two teams has nothing to do with y'all, right?
Wait, what was he responding to?
Because I said, why would you go to a small market team like that?
Okay.
Right?
Coming from a big market team.
Coming from a big market team, why would you go from three to Sacramento?
Right.
Right?
At this point in your career, you should go to a bigger market, right?
You already played in San Antonio,
went to Chicago to then come back here, right?
And then I said,
the reason that you would never make an all-NBA team,
right, because you're a max player,
they're going to screw you
because your market is not big enough
to have you as an All-NBA player
and Sabonis as an All-NBA player and signing DeRozan, right?
That's too much money for that market.
Now, go back to where they are on TV games.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Deer Fox, Deer Fox, Deer making All-NBA team in 2023.
Go 13 All-NBA.
His contract is up.
12. Only 12. Only 12. He didn't make it this-NBA team in 2023. Go 13 All-NBA. His contract is up. 12.
Only 12.
Only 12.
He didn't make it this year.
We're going to make all 12.
He got screwed, and his numbers were better,
and his team was better than Steph's.
So De'Aaron Fox, two years left on his deal.
At this point, it said he's holding off on the extension to see how he plays out.
He should have been an All-NBA player over Steph last year. His numbers
was better than Steph, and his team was better.
But they put the bigger market in.
So when you look at
why you don't get the
credit you want, it's because of that right
there. You have a team, y'all supposed
to be top, what, four?
People got them top four in the West?
In the West? Possible.
And you put 12 TV games.
And they give you 12 TV games. They give the Pelicans. They gave the heat more than y'all the heat
I mean they got wouldn't be though. So that makes sense But I feel like the Spurs are a little low at 21 with Wimby and just the draw he's going to be.
But it shows you, as good as your team is, look what the NBA thinks about you.
Your market itself has nothing to do with how many people's in your city.
When you talk about shoe deals, commercial deals, when you're talking about marketing out, you're not in a market.
So it's no different than how Dame feels.
You're in a market so small that you're going to have to do, you can't do the same as Steph.
You're going to have to get out of that motherfucker, have it your triple-double for us to see you.
You made that point when Ant-Man and the Timberwolves threw just the market and then eventually
he may need to move on.
Pat Bev said the same thing, his former teammate.
But when we talk about the face of the NBA,
what did I say?
Who did I say was going to be the face of the NBA
going into this season?
I said LeBron James and Steph Curry.
Oh, yeah, especially after the Olympics.
I said LeBron James and Steph Curry are Hell yeah, especially after the Olympics. Right? I said, LeBron James, Steph Curry
are going to be the face of the NBA
because, right?
Ant-Man, right now, not yet.
You think that was another reason
why they benched Tatum?
Because they were like,
we don't want him to be the face yet.
Yeah, Tatum get fucked over.
So now you look at the TV games.
But Tatum up there with Celtics in third.
I'm just saying.
But it's like they do.
It's LeBron, Steph, Celtics. Yeah. Like, that's I'm just saying. But it's like they do. It's Braun, Steph, Celtics.
Yeah.
Like that's how they view it.
And that's how it looks.
Braun, Steph, Celtics.
If we look at it, loser, loser, champs.
Who are the losers?
That's why the league is cooked.
Huh?
Who's fucking cooked?
Not loser.
I mean underperformer.
Underperformer, underperformer.
We're a loser.
Underperformer, loser, champs.
Not living up to expectations, perhaps, but no.
So when you look at, but this is something you guys talk about.
You got some superstars.
Like, I'm really surprised Nuggets got 29.
You think they get more?
Less.
Way less.
Less.
Give them shits to the Timberwolves.
You put the Thunder, where they at?
No, I give some to the Timberwolves. Ooh the thunder with a yet now give some of the timberwolves who thunder
I think the under deserve more
Thunder I mean only because you only because they don't be adjusted though right about the season
They be a good flag only because they you only because it's yoke itch and you know, he just gonna I
Don't I mean I don't mind but what about seem like the magic nine games? I think yeah magic
I got an exciting crew, but that's the problem. It's the them in the city so small man
Are you in in Paulo as great as he is? He don't have a TV game. What about the Pacers?
Just deserve a little more. No, no, they don't they jump from us six to four
Tell me that six games last season.
I think facing the Cavs
should be more than the Grizz.
You think the Cavs
should be more than the Grizz?
Nah.
John Moran is by himself.
Nah, with Ja coming back.
Ja should be at 21
more than the Clippers.
Yeah, I'm surprised
they got him at 17.
I would have flip-flopped
Memphis and the Clippers.
Unless some of those
seven teams is against
like the Lakers,
the Warriors, Celtics,
Knicks.
And to your point, Lakers, Warriors got 39-36 Unless some of those seven teams is against like the Lakers, the Warriors, Celtics, Knicks. And to your point,
Lakers, Warriors
got 39-36.
Some of those games
will be in this.
Are going to be
like overlapping.
You know,
there'll be some overlap.
You know,
ain't it crazy
that like at least
15 teams in the NBA
are good now?
Yeah.
At least 15?
Since when have we
had the league
have at least 15
good solid teams?
I mean, you talk about the West especially.
Yeah, the West.
On this side, if you take out the Spurs and the Grizzlies
and you put in the Kings and the Pacers,
you're like, all right, that's a solid core right there.
I mean, five West teams over there.
Like Rockets are not even that good, but because of the talent they have on it,
you want to watch it.
And I didn't even say Magic. I said Kings and Pacers.
That's what I said. Even with Magic, those are the type of...
Like, Paulo is going to be one of those guys who gets screwed all the time.
You're going to be putting up 22, 23, and 12 and all that stuff, and no one's going to be looking your way.
Because his game is not exciting.
He gets it done.
You know what I mean?
He's consistent.
He's consistent.
He gets it done.
There's no flash.
There's no, like, we're going to be watching SportsCenter
and see him do something crazy.
Do something crazy, yeah.
Right?
And that becomes a problem with that team.
And your best player is just solid.
Whose game is more exciting, Kyrie or Dame?
Who's more exciting?
Depends on what you like.
Depends on what you like.
Kyrie.
You agree or disagree, Brandon?
Who do you feel's game is more exciting?
Like, if you're a kid, you're Kyrie.
What makes Dame exciting is if he hits, like, two threes in a row,
and it's like, bam, bam, and it gets further and like it's the repetition of like
quarter-sum shit but for the most part is gonna tell them what you want that
night Kyrie can do something without even scoring and be on SportsCenter I
mean but they ain't come down here to game yeah we're coming in the lefties
from 18 yeah like the way Kyrie finished though the lefties from 18. Yeah, like the way
Kyrie finished, though.
I mean, it depends.
But that's what I'm saying.
His has to be a game.
Kyrie can do something
and be on SportsCenter.
He ain't even have to finish it.
Right, right.
You know what I mean?
Ooh, ooh, major fall.
Ah!
And then they just
clip off.
No, you're right.
No, you're right.
You're right.
Damn, got to have
a whole league game for him to get you.
That's true.
But just looking at national TV games, when you guys were hooping as players,
how cognizant were you of national TV games?
And do you have any extra motivation?
I remember in college, we knew we got that CBS ABC game, haircuts.
We looked at it.
Hell, yeah.
I was hyped.
We went from none to having like five the next year because of me.
And you could feel the difference.
So all that sitting in the back seat waiting on Mike Redd.
Now we got, you know, we got five.
You know the reason?
Streaming.
You know, we have five.
All that having to be slow and all that, yeah.
Five national games the next year because of me.
Because of one guy?
Mm-hmm.
Y'all really ought to be nice to get on TV now.
Everybody on TV.
ABC.
Everybody get TV games.
Everyone.
ABC?
Every game of mine in college at Maryland was on TV because of Big Ten Network.
I don't think we ever made TV.
Huh?
We had every game of TV.
You had to watch us on DVD.
DVD.
That's crazy.
I got the movie, man.
I got the movie.
I got the CD. You got the CD. You got the. Got that.
Got that CD.
You got the CD.
You got the CD.
Put the CD in.
Put the CD in.
Y'all was like the 80s.
Free recorder.
81.
Y'all was 81 season.
Fast forward to the second quarter.
That's when I played.
Second quarter.
Fast forward.
Video guy.
The video guy had the game.
Fast forward.
They're going to die.
Video guy had it all in your locker room the next day.
Yeah, man.
I ain't in.
I ain't in.
Don't play it.
Fast forward.
Hey, man.
Y'all like the pre-recorded where you get to sit in the chat
room with them. Yeah, man. This is the good part. This where you get to sit in the chat room with them?
Yeah, man, this is the good part.
This is the good part.
Watch it.
Watch it.
Watch it.
Watch it. Here it come, y'all.
Here it come.
Let's go.
So, but noticeable shift in your approach motivation when you knew you had a national TV game.
Oh, yeah.
Hell, yeah.
The next year, signature suit, national chat.
Had my commercial.
Lit.
I think.
Lit. Lit. Yeah, because we were in a gold my commercial, lit. Mm. I think, lit.
Yeah, because we were the gold uniform on TV games.
OK.
Yeah, so that's what, yeah.
30 something, 40 something.
It's crazy, because you signed a gold joint for me.
Huh?
You signed one of the gold jerseys.
It was all gold, gold on TV.
I knew I was nice.
Gil came before the game, asked me for my jersey and shoes.
What?
Yeah.
How you feeling after that?
I knew I was him.
Man.
I'm like, he ain't asking nobody else in this motherfucker.
Man.
Where your jersey at?
Shoes and jersey.
Was there any saltiness amongst your teammates when they're not getting asked for their jerseys and shoes?
Is that when it changed?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You laying after me?
I think he is.
Yeah, because the equipment guy was like,
hey, hey, Arenas wants your jersey and shoes.
He collects shoes and jerseys.
I mean, now?
I said, has he asked if anybody else is in here?
He said, no.
I said, he can have my shit, man.
I know, right?
Logan said, I ain't after this nigga.
I mean, shit, nobody knew the rest of your team.
Thanks, Joe.
You ever did that, going on a road trip and didn't even know the teams you're playing?
Mm-mm.
Oh, you be like, yeah, we about to go to Miami.
Hell yeah.
I made a whole vlog about it.
Who on the team?
And then you go to Miami and then-
Who they got?
And then be like, yo, where we go after this?
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
Them long trips.
We go to Orlando.
Who the fuck wants to go to Orlando?
You be sitting there doing that all the time.
No, I told you, I used to wake up up in cities didn't know what city I was in
Like that's how many that's how long it was called a meeting
Like 3 4 in the morning man, you have sleeping and you get up and go straight to breakfast and be like,
oh, shit, what room was I in?
No, seriously.
You got to bring the whole thing.
You take the key and not the whole package.
Seriously.
You got to bring the whole thing with the room number on it.
With the room number, yeah.
Everything on there.
Vital and essential.
I've done that plenty of times.
Let's keep it moving.
Season 2 has been special for all of us here on the couch,
and to celebrate a job well done,
Gil's Arena is throwing the backyard boogie
next Saturday, August 31st, 11.30 AM.
We will be in Gil's backyard, live on the court.
Man, I just didn't like my look.
We got to get all the gardeners in the neighborhood to chill out.
I didn't like my look.
I'm still going.
Huh?
Chill out.
Pull up after practice if y'all still going.
What time y'all ain't practice?
I go first this time.
Depends on how this road trip goes, I think. That's better. if y'all still going. What time y'all in practice? I go first this time.
Depends on how this road trip goes, I think.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
How many shots you get?
We get two.
Can you move your ball, please?
My bad.
Because look, look, look, look.
You owe me 200.
Okay.
Right?
And I want you to... You got to pick one, though.
Yeah.
You got to put the joint where you want them.
For 200. Or you got to pick one, though. Yeah. You got to put the joint where you want to... For 200.
Or you got to take three shots.
All right.
Oh, Lord have mercy.
Three shots.
All right.
This nigga shit.
Three shots.
Wait, hold on.
Is that a bet?
That's a bet.
Bet.
Okay.
This one right here.
He got to hit it?
This one right here.
But wait, if he hit anything else...
No.
No, with the red flag in it.
How many chances he got? Niger Woods. Wait, wait, hold on. He get two. Two? Okay. All right. Anything else? No, we don't know what the red flag in it
Niger will hold on you get to two. Okay
Can do it BJ Oh He should get another shot
Let me go don't see
I just walked across I walked, I walked, he already hit it. Y'all telling me Gil don't cheat, man. He already hit it. Y'all telling me Gil don't cheat. No, he already hit it.
I just walked across.
I just walked across.
You can't do that in golf?
You can't do that in golf? I fell into her.
I fell into her.
I fell into your face, man.
Oh, come on, man.
Come on.
Let's keep it.
That's it.
Oh.
Three shots, man. DJ. Three shots, baby. You keep it. Ah! That's it! Oh! Three shots, man.
DJ.
Bro, no.
Three shots, baby!
You blew it!
At least one shot, baby.
Three shots, baby!
Damn, DJ.
One.
I hope that's not a gentleman's cut.
Hell no.
And I'm glad the show's over.
Man.
You're going to wake up in Debo,
changing cool metal with the cut.
Man, freaky ass nigga.
Yeah. Ah.-ass nigga.
Oh, Lord.
Yo, this is an unnecessary word.
Unnecessary.
I'm 180.
Pace yourself, moderate.
You know that's it, Naz, when your nose starts sniffing.
I'm gonna get that breakfast burrito.
You're about to get that breakfast burrito.
All right, well, let's move on to Mostly Fans.
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That's you?
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That's what you play with.
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All right, so our first question is from Underdog user Bongzilla.
That is this person's name.
Think we'll ever see the teams with the best 16 records in the playoffs,
and would it be more exciting so top 16
Regardless of conference will we ever see a day with the NBA shift the top 16 teams?
Regardless of conference best records that would be great fun
I mean that would be the probably the most competitive besides the game that we want from the world
but far as like if we talk about just
NBA
Competitive yeah, cuz now we just this best
go to last year's real quick let's see what that would have looked like so last year it would have
been hold on we're pulling it up right now let me get these nba standings see that without it
actually looked like that would be great one verse 16 yeah so one so it would have been celtics versus
hold on they are. One through 16.
Without the play-in, not the play-in bullshit.
They already seven.
They already seven.
Celtics Heat.
Then it would have been Thunder Pacers.
Nugget Sixers.
Timberwolves Lakers.
Wait, wait, is that a Thunder Sixers?
And what was the second one?
Pacers versus?
Would have been Thunder Pacers. That would have been a good series. Nugget Sixers versus... Would have been Thunder Pacers.
That would have been a good series.
Nugget Sixers.
That would have been a great series.
Lakers Timberwolves, I believe.
Damn, that would have been a great series.
Flippers Magic.
All right, Adam.
Flippers Magic.
Yeah, Matt.
Flippers Magic.
Matt.
Flippers Magic.
Paulo, James, and...
Nick Sun.
Nick Sun.
Incredible.
And Bucks Pelicans would have been...
That would be fun. That would be good, too. Bucks and... I mean... Good. What's son. Nick's son. Wow. Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son.
Nick's son. Nick's son. Nick's son.. I actually like that a lot. You know that for something like that to go through,
it's going to have to be veterans, man.
You're going to have to,
LeBron's going to have to go, Steph's going to have to go,
KD's going to have to go.
Because usually most of these guys,
they're stuck with
the idea of
like the past.
Right? Keeping it the same like the past. Right?
Keeping it the same
like everybody else.
Like George...
Right?
So once you get rid of them
and then it's all new school
that don't have...
They don't have history
with the past,
it'll be easier
to be accepted.
It was just like
when we had the ball.
You was in with the ball, right?
There was nothing wrong
with that ball.
Nothing at all.
Well, it did break... It did crack the skin on your fingers.
It cracked it faster than
the leather one did. The leather one cracked too,
but they used it because
then it was like, this helps me
shooting. I don't want to break records
with a handicap.
That was the same year we put in the Zone too.
Damn, for real? No, Zone came in
a little bit before. A little bit before? I think that was the year we put in a zone too. Damn, for real? No, zone came in a little before.
A little bit before?
Mm-hmm.
I think that was the year we all played zone more then.
Because that was the year everybody was shooting the ball
more, we was playing more zone.
We was playing more zone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right, so let's move on to our next question.
It's an email question from underdog user Bandadabayo.
Band, B-A-N-N-E-D.
Nice play on words. If you were only allowed
to watch one other team's games
besides the Lakers this season,
who would it be?
So you can only watch one other team's game besides your
favorite team, cannot be the Lakers, who would it be?
Mmm.
Probably the Knicks.
I'm going to say Dallas.
You go Dallas, man.
I'm going to say Dallas.
I want to see the Villanova boys, how they act together.
The Nova Knicks, Rashad's favorite team as of July.
Just because I'm curious to see.
What, Dallas?
Yeah, if the Dallas year was a fluke.
I'm with you.
Give me Ja Morant. I'm with you. Give me Ja Morant.
I'm with you.
Give me Ja.
I want to see the Clay shit.
I want to see, yeah, I want to see him play.
I knew you were going to pick him.
You got close.
You got real close.
Pardon me?
I'm going with Dallas.
Former Heat fan, current Knicks fan,
you would say the Mavs would be.
Yeah, I'll go with Dallas.
OK.
I'm going to roll with Clay, man.
Seeing Clay at the coffee shop, I feel bad.
I was bashing him.
Yeah, I need to.
If I'm going to watch him.
He's on recently. Yeah. If I'm going to watch a sorry team, I Seeing Klay at the coffee shop, I felt bad. I was bashing him. Yeah, I need to. If I'm gonna watch him. You saw him recently.
Yeah.
If I'm gonna watch a sorry team, I
want to watch most of my guys.
They're just flying.
What'd you say to him?
Did y'all dap up?
Nah, you know we was going in on Klay before the season.
Klay Thompson better than y'all were.
Hey, Klay Thompson better than Glenn Rice.
Well, Bray, I don't know where that came from, but I don't
know.
Wait, did y'all speak?
Y'all spoke?
Not.
How was that?
What did he say?
It was quick.
I was with...
My bad, man.
Oh, that's why.
Okay.
That's where that's coming from.
I was with...
It did.
Took the shot.
Some lady work.
We also saw him at the Sparks game.
He was sitting courtside as well
when you guys were cheering for the Fever.
Yeah, I seen him after that,
so I didn't think,
because he didn't say nothing before,
I was like, he ain't fucking with me like that.
Klay Thompson going to be a better third option
than Paul George this year.
See, now that is a bold take.
I said that's a hot.
Huh?
That is a hot.
I said that's a hot.
That's a spicy take.
Just letting y'all know that right now.
Putting it on wax.
And the Bucs going to finish higher than Philly this year,
and I bet Kenyon.
You did bet Kenyon, or the dinner at Nobu.
Yep, dinner at Nobu,
that the Bucs will finish higher than Philly this year. Well, both not going to finish higher than Philly this year, and I bet Kenyon. You did bet Kenyon? Or the dinner at Nobu? Yep, dinner at Nobu. That the Bucs would finish higher than Philly this year. Well, Bucs
not going to finish higher than the Knicks.
The Knicks are not finishing top three. Bet it.
Bet it.
What do you want to bet?
Bet it. What you want to bet?
What you want to bet?
What you want to bet?
What you want to bet?
Whatever.
I mean, shit, you and Ken can take me to Nobu.
Just point out you got strict hands, but we're not having an actual agreement in place.
What you want to bet?
Because it don't matter.
He going to lose.
And do you get to bring a plus one?
Yep.
Plus two?
Yep.
I bet Taisho.
Oh, shit.
Bet.
Bet.
Bet.
Fuck it.
That's cool.
I got Nobu and Taisho.
It's all Chinese.
Yeah, they all love Chinese food.
It's on Ventura.
What is it called?
Taisho.
Taisho?
Yeah.
Dr. Dre.
Dr. Dre.
Oh, Dr. Dre.
Oh, so that's down with like...
Is it nice?
Sherman?
Yeah, no, it's off-chain.
And then he owns a Mexican spot across the street,
and then it's a steakhouse, too.
Boulevard, right?
Boulevard Steakhouse.
Yeah.
That's all the DNA. Oh,'s the steakhouse too. Boulevard right? Boulevard steakhouse. That's all the DRE.
All mine winning.
Yeah Nobu is Japanese with Peruvian inspiration.
Yeah and then Taisho is Japanese.
Okay well for sure.
Well that concludes our broadcast.
That was what we did mostly fans?
We did two mostly fans.
The fans got 50p's each.
Brandon said, who was better than Glenn Rice?
You said?
Klay Thompson.
Klay Thompson was better than Glenn Rice.
And Klay Thompson.
Then Klay would be a better third option than Paul George.
Then PG, you also said that the Bucs.
Will finish higher than Philly and the Knicks.
And the Knicks.
Multiple.
This season's going to be.
It's on this season.
I'll take time for Brandon.
You're going to take, yeah.
Will any of them be better than the Celtics, Lexi?
No.
Okay.
The Celtics about to
Write me trying
Yeah, this happened to a team that had just wanted James, yeah, you actually have seen you just no no no not like
They couldn't even have fun this summer.
All right.
They should have had a little fun.
There's no way Boston have...
Bro, that's what they did to...
There's no way they have fun this summer.
Nah.
Like this is one of the...
Internally, the stars didn't...
The star players didn't get to...
They should have been able to enjoy their summer
and work out and chill.
Smiling and laughing and joking.
You would have thought they got slipped in the damn finals.
They really need a team meeting though.
For real, they really need a team meeting.
Being in a club with a trophy and everything.
I think they're fine.
Let's see if they're moderating.
They're just fine.
Everyone's going to look stupid because y'all really tried it with my team.
We hope not.
We've seen Drew and Tatum.
Yeah, they're at the game.
They're at the Sparks game in Boston.
I don't think it's going to be any more than it is publicly.
You know what it is?
I think what they're going to do is they're going to do the Caitlyn card on them.
They're going to be sitting there looking at anything to see if they clap hands.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're going to blow that shit up.
They was doing it a little bit.
Soon as a motherfucker hit an N1.
They actually have been trying to do that to Jason and Jalen for years.
And it hasn't really worked.
And they finally won.
Yeah, I feel like they've always been kind of.
We're going to keep working it out until we solve that
equation. They can run off too long.
So I don't think it's going to work now.
We're going to keep trying.
So that's what I'm saying, man.
They can run off.
Media, man. Even when Jalen
got the big extension, they try to make that shit weird.
So Lexi, whose team is it coming in this season?
Is it Drew Holiday's team or is it Derek White's team?
Which one? Or Porzingis?
Y'all need to move around with the coach. It's Lucky's team. How good is Joe Mazur? No. You know, really?
No, it's going to be
interesting to see
how they come out
because they really are
trying to fuck with them
and I don't like that.
We'll figure out a way
to make it happen.
You see how all that shit
happened when I jumped ship?
This has nothing to do
with you.
I jumped ship
and all that shit happened, right?
Oh, you were the protector
of the Celtics?
Hell yeah.
I got us all the way
to the chip and won it.
Oh my God. And Kevin Durant is better than Larry Bird. Yeah, that Hell yeah. I got us all the way to the chip and won it. Oh, my God.
And Kevin Durant is better than Larry Bird.
Yeah, that's facts.
That's not a hot take.
No, it was on Twitter.
They was trying to fight me for it.
Wait.
What?
You just randomly tweeted that?
No, no.
It's a hot take on there.
Look.
What'd it say?
When KD retires, who ranked higher?
All time.
Who's going to rank higher?
Yeah, that's what it said.
It depends on where you rank. Larry right now.
Where do you have Larry right now?
It really depends.
You said what, Larry?
Larry's not top ten.
If Larry's not top ten,
you putting Katie in the top ten?
Yep.
Someone was making an argument for Larry Bird
being top five, right?
And it made me laugh only because when he retired,
he didn't retire as top five, right?
He was six or seven.
And I'm like, so he didn't have one most stat,
but somehow he jumped to top five when he retired.
He's not playing anymore?
Yeah.
But I was like, oh, whatever.
Who was in front of him before that?
It was Wilt, Bill.
They had Magic.
These damn dudes.
They already had Jordan and I think...
Dr. J?
It was somebody.
I was like...
They had him at a guaranteed six.
And I was like, how do you retire at six
and then you're five now and 30 years later?
That's weird.
Three straight MVPs.
We can go all day.
You know who else is better than who?
No, let's go.
Because I'm going to say something.
You'll be here tomorrow.
You come back tomorrow.
You'll be here tomorrow.
Rondo better than Chris Paul, too.
Eight man.
Rondo Ball?
Rondo better than Chris Paul.
Oh, Rondo.
Rajon Rondo.
Yeah, man.
Just listen, y'all.
He's drunk.
He's drunk.
One can just shoot.
He's just drunk.
It's just. All right. All right. Just listen, y'all. He's drunk. He's drunk. One could just shoot.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right. All right. All! That's what that motherfucker said.
Josiah!
We'll be going.
We're going to find out.
We'll be going.
We're going to find out.
What movie was that?
What is this?
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