Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To The Wolves Keeping The Season ALIVE

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To The Minnesota Timberwolves Keeping Their Season ALIVE as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew break down the T-Wolves taking Game 4 from the Dallas Mavericks on the backs of a r...edemption performance from Karl Anthony-Towns & a near triple double from Anthony Edwards. They discuss what changed in KAT's game that allowed him to take over in this win or go home game and how Ant-Man's aggressiveness opened up the floor and swung the 4th quarter. Next, they react to the rumors swirling around Jimmy Butler's offseason, discussing how a reunion with Joel Embiid & the Philadelphia 76ers would instantly create a new contender in the east before giving their take on the MLB incorporating Negro League stats into their history. Finally, they discuss the hard fouls taking the WNBA by storm and debate if the league is being too harsh on their superstar rookies before giving their reactions to Sam Presti's recent comments on the Gordan Hayward trade. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Today's Crew - Rashad McCants & Brandon Jennings Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $250 in Bonus Cash AND A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@GilsArena Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! - https://discord.gg/underdog Use Code GIL for Up To $100 Off an Aura Watch & 30% off Straps - https://aura.watch/gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:13 Rashad's New Look 0:06:39 MLB Incorporates Negro League Stats 0:08:00 Wemby Addresses His Haters 0:17:38 What Player Has Increased Their Legacy These Playoffs? 0:36:41 Gil Still Isn't Buying Kat's Game 0:42:56 On Wolves Blowing Leads Earlier in Series 1:06:07 Ant-Man's Late Game Aggressiveness 1:07:58 Kyle Anderson Is The Wolves X-Factor 1:37:45 Ant-Man Will See Micah Parsons At Game 6 1:49:20 Jimmy Butler To The 76ers Rumors 1:57:05 Fly Me Out App 2:11:49 MostlyFans 2:23:41 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:47 Woo! Hub day. That's every day. First time on this couch. How y'all feeling today? Good? Good. We energized?
Starting point is 00:01:01 We ready? Gotta give the people what they want. Was that Judy's early? Amin's a janky jumper. Huh? Amin Elhassan's a janky jumper. Oh. Send me a sweatshirt.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Appreciate you with me. That was a WNBA janky jumper. I think they were. I thought... That's the... Yeah, that is the... I thought it was the WNBA. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Talk to Amin if you have a problem, WNBA. That's so... I'm just trying to be supportive. That you have a problem, WNBA. That's so... I'm just trying to be supportive. That's so wrong. That's so crazy. Like, that's wrong. It's like, ooh. Go yellow, man.
Starting point is 00:01:31 Who is it? You can pick another. Who's jumping? Who's jumping? It brings out my skin. That's why I wore it. But this is Gil Zerita presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Okay. And I know Adidas had that in their arsenal. Yeah, they throw the color up in there, all black with the... Okay. It's tough. Very tough. We got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings,
Starting point is 00:01:57 back on the couch, representing Tough Crowd at Tough Crowd University. Whoa, whoa. And... Championship Charles. I appreciate that. Cemetery Larry. Rashad McKesson is back here with us.
Starting point is 00:02:13 So for all the fans out there, we now have two viewing options for the show, our traditional version that you know and love, and a vertical mobile version for everybody watching on their phones. Pick whichever one you want to watch. I say watch both. Again, please help us. We've been getting our numbers up. We might set a record for subscribers this month if y'all get y'all minds right
Starting point is 00:02:29 and keep it going. So we appreciate y'all. But here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Wolves avoided elimination with their first win on the Mavs in Game 4. But what do the Wolves need to do in Game 5 to keep their season alive? Shout out Cat. He's watching the show. Their 1,500 shots.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Up two. Up two. Came to work. So after putting together one of the best rookie campaigns in NBA history, Wimby showed it's never too late to address some hate. And Jimmy Butler wants a max contract from the Heat, but if they won't give him one, reports are the Sixers will be down for a reunion.
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Starting point is 00:03:28 No NBA games, but we've got some WNBA games. The pick-ems are on the screen below. Diana Taurasi, higher 4.5 rebounds. Brianna Stewart, lower 21.5 points. Asia Wilson, higher 11.0 rebounds. And Kalia Cooper, lower 24.5 points. Ooh. Is it copper or cooper?
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Starting point is 00:04:20 And as always, we do this show live Monday through Thursday at 1130 in Pacific, 2.30 p.m. Eastern on YouTube. But if for some reason you can't watch with us live, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So, we're going to start What? You laughing already? What's going on?
Starting point is 00:04:41 It's like, is that Rashad or is that Eric Williams over there with that bald head? You can tell by the bump. Rashad don't got the bump, man. He ain't got the extra bump, man. That's Rashad. That's ugly, then. No, I'm tired of this.
Starting point is 00:04:55 That's crazy. I get tired of these. What kind of niggas is in the chat, bro? Niggas are looking at what you're wearing. Don't go in there. Don't go in there. Don't go in there. Don't go in there.
Starting point is 00:05:13 That's a place you don't want to go. This is a different era. This is a different era, bro. They've been cooking everybody. Don't even go in there. A bunch of niggas in the chat. They ain't nothing. Trying to figure out if you sexy or not. He ain't sexy today.
Starting point is 00:05:23 He don't look like Boris Kudrow today Uncomfortable y'all welcome up chat He was chilling Was his pants all tight? They said they're calling you shod birdman as well, I don't know Damn with the birdman. I forgot. I was like, no, I'm going to go hatless today. The chat is ruthless. One time I turned to the side, they noticed my missing tooth.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Like, you think I wanted to get this tooth removed? Damn. I'm still saving up to get my new veneer. Oh. I ain't got no tooth. Like, damn, chat. Can we live? But we appreciate your hate.
Starting point is 00:06:25 We're going to do you like Wimby did. We'll talk about that in a second. Going to start the show with some big news coming from Major League Baseball as they are incorporating Negro League stats into their official records. We did it. We did it. They tried to play it. They tried to play it. They did.
Starting point is 00:06:43 They tried to act like Jackie was a first. He was not. He was not. Shout out to Moses Fleetwood Walker. We've been getting it in, but it's all good. So by doing so, the MLB made the announcement back in December 2020 that they would recognize Negro League stats, spend more than three years doing
Starting point is 00:06:59 research to verify those stats before adding them to the database. And by doing so, they made noted racist Ty Cobb roll over in his grave as Negro League legend Josh Gibson overtook his career batting average record. Shout out, Josh. Yes. HBO had that good movie back in the
Starting point is 00:07:16 day. Yeah, yeah. You get Satchel Paige. Josh Gibson. But Gibson is also now has a single season batting record and surpassed Babe Ruth's slugging percentage record. So, yeah, he was putting in work. Babe Ruth may or may not be black as well.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Do your research. Heavy in the hood. Oh, shit. He said he may be black, right? He was heavy in the hood, Gil. He was light-skinned. They didn't know that. He was super light-skinned, dude.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Ty Cobb, you know, had some choice words for him as well. He wasn't done with it. What are your thoughts on Major League Baseball showing love to Negro League by incorporating their stats? I mean, I just personally think it's great because, I mean, you can't keep out one side when eventually you merge, right? You know, we got to recognize this side, but you don't recognize this side. It's kind of unfair, but, you know, they made it right, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:19 There used to be a gentleman's agreement amongst teams that they wouldn't sign black players. Obviously, Negro Leagues could bust a Major League's ass, did so on many occasions. Oh, they worked? They played against each other? You know. All the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't that work? They used to beat their ass all the time.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Same thing with the Globetrotters back in the day. Used to smack the Celtics. It was said that Jackie Robinson fucked it up because they were supposed to stay separate. The only reason why is because they didn't have no brand deals, no TV deals, no write deals. So Jackie going over there made them want to merge and all the other black players to go to the majors. Because they had their own shit. It was going this way. And him going over there was kind of like, boy, what you doing? So they was all mad at him for doing that.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And everybody celebrated it because it had never been done before, but they didn't. The Negro League, Josh Gibson, all them, they didn't like that shit. You're typical black people. You know, we don't like change. Yeah. We're going to unify now.
Starting point is 00:09:18 So was Jackie Robinson the best player? No. Not even close. No. That's why he was mad at him. He was like, he ain't even the best boy out here. Not even close. Nah. That's why he was mad at him. He was like, he ain't even the best boy out here. But he could handle everything.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Oh, but he can handle everything. Mark the Bull, yeah. So, Branch Rickey from the Dodgers made the move back when they were in Brooklyn. Yeah. Shout out HBO. That was a good-ass movie. I can't remember the name of it. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Let's see. Yeah, I got to check that out there. Yeah, I got to. What's the name of that? What was that joint called? I can't remember the name of it. Hold on, let's see. I got to check that out there. What's the name of that? What was that joint called? Soul of the Game. Soul of the Game.
Starting point is 00:09:52 Soul of the Game, yes. Soul of the Game. Great movie for all those out there. Shout out Satchel Paige and everybody. Rest in peace. They finally integrated the stats and made it, what, unified, right? Yeah, it's all unified. Because Texas Negro Leagues was a major league. They finally integrated the stats and made it, what, unified, right? Yeah, it's all unified.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Because technically the Negro Leagues was a major league. They finally recognized it, obviously acknowledging that they had a lot of great players in that league that did work in the MLB. Does that mean, like, we're trying to get rid of, like, the racism shit? Nah, you know. Can we unify everybody now? Can we unify everybody now? But this also brings up an important conversation in the basketball community. ABA wasn't technically a Negro league, but there was a bunch of Negroes in that league
Starting point is 00:10:30 who had a major impact on the modern NBA by adding swag, seasoning, and innovation. NBA refused to recognize the ABA stats after the merger in 76, but if they did, Dr. J, who was 76 all-time on the NBA scoring list, would be 8th all-time if his
Starting point is 00:10:46 ABA stats were included with his NBA stats. He scored nearly 12,000 points in the NBA. That's a big jump. That's funny. He came to the league and they were getting an older version of Dr. J, but nonetheless, still did as well.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Question for you gentlemen, all former NBA hoopers. Should the NBA include ABA stats in their official records? Might as well. Yeah, they did it with baseball. They did it with baseball. Might as well do it with basketball. Just to see what it looked like. Yeah, just to see
Starting point is 00:11:18 what it looked like. But they'd have it on basketball references though. Yeah, so you can go to basketball references and see what the NBA, ABA combined is. But that's just a website, you know? Adam Silver needed to go ahead and do his right. No, I'm just saying... But does it tell you the rankings all time?
Starting point is 00:11:35 It just tells you the stats? No, what's so funny is if you're not paying attention to it, it looks like... So when you look at Dr. J's stats, it looks like all together, the four MVPs and this and that, they have it mixed in. So you might as well just do it.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Damn. Help a lot of people's arguments. So right now you've already got them like seven-time NBA, all NBA. But I mean, there's some stuff you can't use, I guess. There's like certain things you can't bring over, like let's
Starting point is 00:12:04 say all NBA, right? Here's a two-time ABA champion two-time ABA playoffs MVP see this is some of the stuff is kind of hard to do right Like like all NBA like ABA all NBA they had one of those two, right? So yeah, three-time ABA most valuable player five-time ABA all-star And it's like like, who was playing in the ABA at the time? Right. Some bigs. Who were the players?
Starting point is 00:12:32 There's like certain things you, yeah, see, I don't know. I think the stats alone, not necessarily accomplishments, but... Just the stats. The stats. The points and all that stuff. Yeah, just to see where that stats. Rebounds. Yeah. Steals, blocks. That's it. Yeah, everybody else. Yeah, okay Y'all rolling with it. Yeah, mr. Stanton as long as they do it fair where it doesn't compromise or
Starting point is 00:12:53 It doesn't give anybody any extra Like when you talk about like all NBA, yeah, you can't change none of that's it. You can't change it because if this was their league and 15 players made it here and 15 players made it here, but 30 players are getting credit for all NBA deaths, you can't do that. Well, and the problem, too, is the ABA had the three-point line. Innovators on that side. NBA didn't introduce it until the 79-80 season. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah, I didn't know that. Slam slam dunk contest a lot of stuff that the league Wow Is that why they didn't merge? I think they were just trying to kind of erase the league like hey. Yeah, so that sounds like That's what they did with the Negro Leagues to like we take enough of y'all players Same thing HBCUs back in the day. We talk about football and basketball. Rambling and all that. The game is the game.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Mm-hmm. Yeah. They also had the red, white, and blue basketball in the ABA. Oh, yeah. So the points where they do just any three that they made, they would just keep it as a two. Count it as a two. Give them their three pointers.
Starting point is 00:13:58 All right. This is going to move Dr. J from what? Would you say top? So he's 76 all-time. 76 to eight.'s but 8 combined insane i think 30 some thousand that's insane they're gonna have to really go to the computer they're gonna really have to go to the database for this this is not just you just add everybody's stats because if they were using the three-point line before the nba now you're talking about people
Starting point is 00:14:21 who are shooting threes three-point percentage it goes against the other people so you're talking about people who are shooting threes. Three-point percentage. It goes against the other people. So you're going to have to take away their three points. It's going to be a give and take. That's all. But, I mean, I'm pretty sure the ABA will want their stats to be put in as basketball stats. ABA wasn't just a black league, though, right? No. There's a lot of black people in the league. Was Pistol Pete in there?
Starting point is 00:14:40 ABA? I think he was an NBA dude. NBA dude? Pistol Pete. I think they called him NBA. No, they were highly competitive with the league in terms of getting, you know, they had hardship rules. They let guys come in early, a bunch of other stuff. Oh, they had that straight out of high school back then?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Okay. They were snatching up a lot of talent. So basically the NBA stole a bunch of this stuff and then... That's correct. Yep. Bought them out, got them, got real. Get out. Tropic Thunder.
Starting point is 00:15:09 It was Tropic Thunder. Move around. Not Tropic Thunder. What's the... It's in my affair. It's in my affair. It's in my problem. I'm thinking of the Tropic...
Starting point is 00:15:19 Tropic. So my dad always tells the story of his junior year. I think the Nuggets tried to get him, offered him a gang of bread. He was going to come out. There's some shady shit happening behind the scenes. But apparently it created a beef between Larry Brown and his brother. Herb and they didn't talk for a bunch of years because they were... So your father had to go back to school.
Starting point is 00:15:35 He ended up going back to college his senior year. So he was going to go to ABA, right? He was going to go to ABA his junior year. They flew him out to the All-Star game. He was out there hanging out. Man, it would have fucked up the merger. It had a chance to mess it up. There's a lot of innovation going on back then.
Starting point is 00:15:50 A lot of crazy stuff going on back then. But nonetheless, so we asked the chat, should the NBA include ABA stats in official records? 80% said yes. Chat, you earned it back. A lot of haters out there, but very knowledgeable and intelligent when it matters. So let's keep this thing moving. So this season, Rookie of the Year, Victor Wimbinyama,
Starting point is 00:16:09 made history by becoming the youngest player to make first team all defense. And recently, Wimby addressed some history by clapping back at a hater more than three and a half years later. So back in October 2020, when Wimby was just a 16-year-old balling in the French Pro League, somebody commented, he's not going to do none of that in the NBA. To which present-day Wimby responded, why not? It's good to see the pettiness. Europe really might be taking over, I'm going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:16:42 That was the last infinity stone. Once they get the pettiness... Hey, you know what I like about that? The fact that he's only 16 and they're saying he's not going to do that in the NBA. So you already lost that battle. The fact that you already can identify a
Starting point is 00:17:02 16-year-old as an NBA player. That is crazy. Facts. Now, he's not going to do that against Real Madrid or some shit like that. Not an NBA. In a way, he said black. Why not? That was an American.
Starting point is 00:17:18 That was an American. That was an American right there. He said black. That's black American right there. For sure. So, question for all you guys in light of that Wimby situation. American right there. He says black Black American right there. Oh this show So question for all you guys in light of that wouldn't be situation What's the longest you've let somebody's hate marinate before clapping back at them? I'm still waiting
Starting point is 00:17:43 Just taking my time I'm waiting though not clap back. I'm just taking my time. I'm waiting though. When I clap back this time, it's going to be crazy. Anybody in particular or you want to keep it under wraps until you do this? Let's keep it under wraps. Okay. Because obviously on this show you've talked about situations throughout your life where you didn't feel like you were given the respect you deserve from individuals. So...
Starting point is 00:18:03 No, not that type you how about yourself Y'all know you're petty yeah 15 minutes As soon as I see a pose and keep them back at you But you talk about just life Yeah, just you know somebody says something to you like something something like, not Instagram, like something like for real, for real. Oh, my pity is you said I wasn't going to score no points in Arizona. I were number zero to just mock you. Who said that?
Starting point is 00:18:32 Mm, Papers. Do you remember the writer? Nah. Okay, good. They said you weren't going to score in Arizona. Yeah, but I wasn't going to score a point in Arizona, so I went with zero. Bird the movement. I believe there's more zeros in the league than 23s.
Starting point is 00:18:48 That is the preferred number of choice. So I know you... When I snitched on North Carolina, I had a lot of people asking me whether or not I did it for money and all that kind of shit. And there was a lot of Carolina players that said some shit that I took screenshots of. And they said a lot of shit. And I did that for, I would say, a commendable purpose of player upliftment, culture, trying to get everyone paid, like the NIL and everything that's happening. And I think recently, maybe a week ago, they just revealed that colleges can pay athletes. Yeah, they can pay athletes and go...
Starting point is 00:19:43 Colleges themselves now colleges can pay athletes directly i think they're gonna pay up to like 2.7 billion dollars to 10 000 athletes starting in 2016 which makes me think what about our bread somebody owe me at least 35 dollars so so so so like 10 years ago exactly when i was persecuted and crucified the last 10 years I served, I was assassinated completely. Gil was probably the one guy that pulled me out of my grave and was just like, let me bring you back to the surface. And I could contribute a little bit to Ice Cube as well. But I think it's more recent that all of this stuff started to circulate about the things I was fighting for and I never addressed any of it. I never said anything about who was saying what and who was defaming my
Starting point is 00:20:35 character saying this and that about who I am and all that kind of stuff. So the revenge for me is not about clapping back more than just showing that everything that I worked for and that I believed in came to fruition. Now players can get paid from the colleges. I think I had a quote saying that the NCAA was going to pay me $300 million and UNC should pay me $10 million, a total of $310 million, to create sports education programs and facilities all over the country for athletes to be able to contribute to their educational purposes because the NCAA's whole mantra was free education no compensation so I
Starting point is 00:21:17 was fighting against that and I had to use UNC as an example of you're giving us a fraudulent education and you're not paying us so my fight against that was all was tooken out of context and they try to make it against me and gives you at UNC when I was really fighting against the NCAA and now all of a sudden the NCAA got to put money in the box in the bag all these schools can pay pay athletes so y'all could say whatever y'all want to say, I'll just say you're welcome. Turn up. Let it be known.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Oh, the smoke machine back. Yes. That man gave me some smoke right now. The smoke machine is back in action. Shout out to our crew. Worked diligently night and day To get our smoke machine back. But understand, it is good to see athletes getting paid. But as an old head now, I'm extremely salty there.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Like I said, about $35, $37 is my contribution to UCLA. They're getting paid $300 million at NBA. How do you think we feel about that? Yeah. I already know. $300 million? I didn't get my rookie contract. Another question.
Starting point is 00:22:25 That came out nice. They cleaned that joint. They cleaned that joint. Well, we didn't have to smoke in a minute. Very punchy. I was different. So what's the best clack back you've had for a hater without calling them broke? Which a lot of rich people's go to.
Starting point is 00:22:39 It's a good one. It's effective. That's usually the best one. I mean. No, that means you lost. It don't matter. But why, when you call somebody broke, does that mean? No, I think the best clapback for me
Starting point is 00:22:53 was when everybody told me that me going to Europe was going to be a failure. And then coming back going 10th in the draft. That was like. I do remember some of those detractors saying that. Everybody was looking at me crazy So here in Jake Bellis and everybody hate on me ESPN And then to come back with Sonny McCurl and get drafted to you. That was everything. That was like a big, you know
Starting point is 00:23:15 To the whole NCAA one of the best draft day moments. I believe you were shopping when they Soho shopping get a get in your shop on there pulled up to the dress made a great interest And I was in Soho shopping. Get in your shop, they pulled up to the dress. Made a great entrance. What was the answer? What was the answer? No, what was the question? This is not Jeopardy.
Starting point is 00:23:33 What's the best clap back you've had for a hater without calling them broke? Oh, CHP, California CHP. When he thought he was going gonna put me in jail for fireworks What was your club bigger, huh? My clap back is I'll be out of here Five minutes into me getting into that a facility and you'll be here all night doing paperwork And where you are five minutes? Seven. Seven?
Starting point is 00:24:07 I had to use the restroom. I had to use the restroom. But yeah, you was in there for about an hour doing a bunch of paperwork, a bunch of nonsense. Firework, dog. You crazy. Seven minutes. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Yo, firework? You know they're illegal in Los Angeles County. No, no, no. Yeah. They are illegal, but then they say you can have, what is the? Sparklers or what? No. Bottle rockets.
Starting point is 00:24:36 So bottle rockets are legal. So the rule was anything that goes in the air is illegal, but then they have bottle rockets, which goes in the air. So it was like, yeah, I'm not. Damn. I found a loophole. Governor tried to make me pay a fine. I told him I'm not paying no fine. I'm not doing no community service. If you do give me community service, I'm going to have
Starting point is 00:24:58 somebody write it off. He thought I was bullshitting. The one thing I've learned about you... I had to fire the department, write it off. F off facts one thing I learned about you you will find the loophole Dobby damn you give me listen. This is my thing You're saying what I'm doing is illegal, but you got a whole fireworks show that all y'all going to go watch? Nah, I'm good. Thanks.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I'm fighting this. Yeah. You're doing your own fireworks show. $10,000. That's all it cost me to the fire department to write that off. I'll say my favorite clapback is always, calm down. I know your mama. Calm down.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Calm the fuck down. Calm down. I know your mama. I know your mama Calm down Calm the fuck down Now I know your mama. We know your mom. I know your mama will and she know me It was crazy it'll be a lot of that I'm just saying y'all say what you want in the comments now I go right to your page and see you post that picture with your mama and see your name Linda I go right to your page and see you post that picture with your mama and see your name Linda Says her name Senator care back Come on over here Glenda it is Wednesday in the arena ladies and gentlemen, so I could be your daddy. Do you know?
Starting point is 00:26:21 Did you get your Christmas present? Did you? That's just horrible to think about, right? Did you get your Christmas present? It didn't come through. I got you a Game Boy. I mean, the way they all cried. I got you a Game Boy and a T-shirt. Are they outside, Brendan?
Starting point is 00:26:38 I don't know. I'm in the house, so. Okay. So when you were hooping, who was your earliest detractor that you remember? Or who's the first person that made you want to prove them wrong? Shit. My pops. My pops challenged me. It was my first person to challenge me. Growing up in the hood, it was always playing ball with the drug dealers. I was 12, and I wasn't bringing home A's and B's, so he was like, you know, you can't come in here with D's and C's. You're going to be like them boys out there in the corner.
Starting point is 00:27:15 You're going to be 25 going to the rec center playing ball all your life, or you're going to be one of those guys you like on the TV. And that hit home with me even till this day. It was like he didn't even have to like raise me after that. It was just, that was the challenge that was set, that set the tone for me. It sparked the fire. And then watching the Michael Jordan challenge when he got cut, his eighth grade team. I got cut my eighth grade team too. So both of those things was just like, I'm not going so both of those things just like I'm not gonna let My dad be right
Starting point is 00:27:47 Not gonna be this street corner Hustling ass drug dealer. I'm gonna be an NBA player eighth grade team We mean eighth grade team middle school let's go out of basketball team yeah seventh and eighth grade We had a basketball team? Yeah. Seventh and eighth grade. We had a basketball team in middle school? No.
Starting point is 00:28:08 No, we ain't out of here. Unified, dude. I was at a private institution. Yeah, they had like middle school teams. I mean, no now, but I don't remember that, right? We didn't have middle school teams. I was at Crossroads, so we had... You didn't play until...
Starting point is 00:28:21 You didn't have Crossroads in eighth gradeth grade? 7th and 8th grade. And y'all had a basketball team? We did. We played other schools. Oh, private. Oh, you're private. You didn't have that in public. Shout out Barron Davis. What? You didn't play until high school? No, I was playing, but we played like rec league.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Rec AAU. We didn't have like a middle school team. We didn't have a middle school team. Irwin Middle, Irwin High. You didn't play for an AAU. Rec League AAU. Rec League AAU. We didn't have like a middle school team. We didn't have a middle school team. No, I was- Irwin Middle, Irwin High. Like you didn't play for your, like an AAU team at that age? After the next year. My high school?
Starting point is 00:28:52 Like summer of A grade. Going into A grade. Okay. That's crazy. That was AAU. My detractors, LA. Whole LA? Whole LA.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Cuz you know, LA didn't recognize the valley. Yeah, it did. They thought it was some softies. They did not. Just to train every day to go play in the hood and go and play. Boy, play in the jungles. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:29 So they just thought, like, the L.A. Valley kids was just soft, so just training, just, like, just to go play at the park, just to show you can, you know, you can ball and stuff. So when someone said they were from L.A., I really took that personal. Like, I was, it was one of them things, man. If you, I'm sorry, but B, if you check my, if you check my, if you check my LA record for versus LA dudes, bro, they got, I gave them big, I took it. You didn't play against nobody though. Anybody in LA? I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Who you know? You crazy as hell. LA? Anybody? We go to Venice beach, I don't... Not that good, Brandon? Not that good? Brandon, when did the talent get good? When did the talent get good to like Tyson, Chandler, and...
Starting point is 00:30:12 They got... That's my group. He was a freshman. His team got that work that... You know who was on his team. I said a freshman. He was a freshman. So think about the people that was in front of him. Yeah. Got that that business man. Oh I was for the talent was a good and channeling come on. The talent was a good prior to tight. No. No, no his big homies Oh, I'll take shine on them. Yeah, they shine on them They turn the kitty Brunner. Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:30:38 That's where I had to go against. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean Baron Davis now just saying a week. No, no Baron. What you say not there? I don't know if we won any game not better. I know I don't know if we won games, but I had 50 60 Every time I was the only Valley kid that made the all-star game in all la so you gave Dominguez 60 No, I never played against the mean guess so what's what we did up like it up it. There's a mean guys right in playoffs Oh that Westchester Westchester, oh You get Westchester 50 Westchester. Oh.
Starting point is 00:31:06 You gave Westchester 50. I gave them 30-something. It was a quadruple-double. It didn't matter. Man. It didn't matter. They only got to stop him. That's it.
Starting point is 00:31:20 Somebody in the chat said Super Crip. Shout out to the legend. Yeah. Super Crip. He was nice. David Hamilton? He wasn't a regular Crip, Rashad. He was a Super Crip. He was nice. David Hamilton? He wasn't a regular Crip, Rashad. Yeah, he was Super.
Starting point is 00:31:27 He was a Super Crip. He was Super Duper. Yeah. And that's how you do it. And you're banging. College coaches. You need to check in. College coaches, what's up Super Crip?
Starting point is 00:31:35 There's a couple of them. There's a couple of them. No, not to the Cops. You know you, you him when the college coach will call you by that name. Super Crip. Damn. And at one point he changed to Super Duper Crip towards the end of his high school.
Starting point is 00:31:48 That's when you elevated. He elevated to Super Duper Crip. But, Brandon, who was your biggest retractor that you wanted to prove wrong when you were coming up? I think when I left Dominguez. I got a lot of hate for leaving Dominguez and leaving Compton, and it was hell trying to get out. So going from Compton, Doming was hell trying to get out. So going from, you know, Compton-Dominguez all the way to Virginia,
Starting point is 00:32:08 I just wanted to prove that I was the best player to ever come out of California as far as high school basketball player. So that was, like, my biggest goal because it was just, man, it was hell. It was just a lot of hell. He fell short of that. You said you got bored with the local L.A. He fell short of that. Fell short of what?
Starting point is 00:32:25 The best player to ever play in LA. I said high school player. I know. Same to me. Yeah, high school. I'm the best player out of California ever, high school player. What are you talking about? Ever.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Like, what are you talking about? Ever. Oh, to go to Virginia. No, no, no. I'm the best LA player to ever play high school basketball out of LA. I'm the best player out of high school. Is the Valley considered? See, that's why they don't consider the school basketball out of LA. I'm the best player out of high school. Is the Valley considered? See, that's why they don't consider the Valley
Starting point is 00:32:48 as part of LA. But I left here. I was so good that I left to go to Oak Hill. And now I'm averaging 30. He's basically saying there was no competition. That's basically what I was saying. There was no reason to stay here. How much did you average in LA? I don't know. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:04 So he went over there to play against easier guys. So he could get his numbers up. You know what I mean? He had to go team up with a whole roster. I don't even know myself. You had a dream team over there. I have no dream team. You had a dream team over there.
Starting point is 00:33:17 I have no dream team. He don't know what quadruple double looks like. He had to go play. Yeah, yeah. I know what 37 a night look like. Yeah, by yourself. He couldn't do that quadruple double looks like. Oh. He had to go play. Yeah, yeah. I know what 37 a night look like. Yeah, by yourself. Oh. He couldn't do that on double team.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Playing in front of everybody. Not on double team. Everybody in L.A.? No. Who? I didn't even play against them. He was getting double teamed here and was scared. Yeah, I got to go.
Starting point is 00:33:37 I want to play with other players. I was one of those type of dudes. There was nothing that Dominguez was about to get shut down. He would have been tripled team. He can't handle that. Too little. Too little. He was too skinny. I had to leave Dominguez was about to get shut down. He'd have been tripled, so he can't handle that. Too little. Too little, he was too skinny. I had to leave Dominguez for other reasons.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And I don't want to bring up those reasons, but we know. I mean, we heard. We know how to Google. Yeah, but it was just other reasons. But that's what made me... It wasn't because of the competition, though. Nah, it was some competition just off the court. You know what the best part of high school was?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Graduation. It is graduation season, ladies and gentlemen. They had a little ditty going on over there, man. Yeah, let's move on. No, no, no. No, just saying. Okay. Come on, hit the segway.
Starting point is 00:34:22 We had a segway, Jay. Yeah, you was trying to hit the segway, too. That's all I was those and they had to go ahead shut that program now I'm just saying you just Google that Usually was sponsoring to this. I mean, however you want to segue But you know, yeah, yeah. But, you know. Yeah. Leave me out of it. That's what Brittany said. Leave me out of it.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I'm gone. I'm gone. I'm gone. I'm going to the mountains. I'm going to the mountains. I'm going down by the river. See you, fellas. And ladies and gentlemen, that is our show for today.
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Starting point is 00:36:05 let's do the Aura countdown question of the day. We're going to put three minutes on the clock. Oh, look at that bling. So beautiful. Put three minutes on the clock. Here is the question. What player has done the most to enhance his legacy this postseason? Three minutes starts
Starting point is 00:36:22 now. What player has done the most to enhance his legacy this postseason? J minutes starts now. What player has done the most to enhance his legacy this postseason? Jalen Brown. Okay. Why has Jalen Brown done the most to enhance his legacy, Brent? That Eastern Conference Finals MVP is another reason for me to be arrogant.
Starting point is 00:36:39 The Larry Bird Eastern Conference Finals MVP. I agree. Jalen Brown. We have two votes for Jalen Brown. Rashad, why I agree. Jalen Brown. We have two votes for Jalen Brown. Rashad, why do you think Jalen Brown?
Starting point is 00:36:49 Because he's better than Jason Tatum. And when they win it all, he'll get all the credit for it. Jalen Brown is better than Jason Tatum. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:59 St. Louis is on. And when they win it, when they win it, it'll be... Thank God that we let Jalen lead us to the championship this time. Is that the whole playoffs? We've come up short the other times with our other leader. What's up with you and Jalen?
Starting point is 00:37:20 Can we go? Can we go? Can we go next? You already told me, Fred. You really got three minutes. No. I just said that. Y'all know y'all love to talk, and for some reason, we can never hit the three minutes
Starting point is 00:37:30 on these segments, but y'all talk about anything and everything. That's intelligence and arrogance all in one. So you're saying that Jalen Brown is better than Jason Taylor. That's what I said. And you mean it. That's what I said. On Al Gore's internet. That's what I said. And you believe that. Do you believe? Is it obvious?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Is it? What player has done the most to enhance his legacy? Who's done the most to enhance their legacy? This postseason. I would have said Luka, but everyone knows Luka's great it really don't matter um i'm either going with brunson jalen brunson that's a good good choice king of new york now i'm you know what i was gonna say kairi too i was gonna see either him or kairi but kairi's legacy had nothing to do with basketball. They smeared his name on things that had nothing to do with the game itself. So what he's doing in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:38:30 is what he's always done in the playoffs. So I'm going to say Brunson. What Brunson done in the playoffs showed everyone how great he really is. And he became the king of this the fact that just this playoffs people considered him the best Knicks player Let you know how impactful his legacy was Just in the fucking three weeks of the playoffs here So I will go with Brunson which is wild because didn't make an Eastern Conference final didn't make a finals I know and had people out there saying he's a great thing for all time Mark Jackson obviously disagreed me, but the fact that that's a conversation just lets you know how impactful what he was doing out there was
Starting point is 00:39:17 Mark Jackson disagree Mark Jackson believes that Patrick Ewing is a great one next player of all time We hit it. Double knee pads? No? You're not rocking with Patrick Ewing? Are you picking Pat over Brunson? I'm old, so. I'm asking you. I'm old. I always show love to the older generation. You're picking Pat over Brunson?
Starting point is 00:39:38 Brunson's not there yet. I think he has the potential to get there, especially if they can shrink some runs together, but Patrick Ewing was that dude. Yeah. Yeah, he was that dude. So you were wearing his shoes? Just the other day. I like the shoe.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It's a nice shoe. It's a quality shoe. It's a Patrick Ewing shoe. That man look like Sasquatch. I better stop playing with him. He used to sweat profusely. All right, so you Brunson. We got two Jalen Browns.
Starting point is 00:40:04 We got Brunson. We also have Rashad saying that Jalen Brown better than Jason Tatum. You used to sweat profusely. All right, so you brunson. We got two Jalen Browns. We got brunson. We also have Rashad saying that Jalen Brown better than Jason Tatum. You going to double down on that? No, I'm just pointing it out. We will find out in the NBA finals. We will never find out. It's a process of my personal opinion. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:40:19 It has nothing to do with convincing everyone else to feel like I feel. I do not care about nobody else's assessment of that analogy. He is the Larry Bird Eastern Conference Finals MVP. Has a chance to win Finals MVP. He's a great player on the number one team, man. That is fine. So, appreciate you to our friends at Aura. Make sure you visit Aura.watch slash Gills Arena.
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Starting point is 00:41:10 That was a retracted idea. It was lingering in my brain. Last time you said something two years ago. How long have you waited? Two and a half years. Waited patiently for that moment. Wow. But we had a big playoff game last night.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Mavs were looking to complete the sweeping in Game 4 of the Western Conference Finals Tuesday night. But Ant Edwards showed he had that dog in him. And Cat came through with his best game of the series to keep the Wolves' season alive. Timberwolves came out strong in the first quarter with Anthony Edwards scoring 14 of their 27 points. But the Mavs went on a 15-7 run to end the second quarter to tie things up at the half. The Wolves had held fourth quarter leads in each of the previous three games, proceeded to trick those off, but in game four they finally got right thanks to some big plays from Cat and Ant-Man. With the Wolves down one with under six minutes remaining, Cat caught fire,
Starting point is 00:41:55 hitting three straight threes to put the Wolves up six. Cat scored 20 of his 25 points in the second half, battling foul trouble to get buckets, and came up with two huge buckets and crunch time to help the Wolves keep their lead and let's just take a look oh right there bam no foul another one there we go shut on Ant man Luka made things interesting after getting fouled while knocking down a three to cut the deficit to three but missed the free throw to cut it to 2 and then Nas Reed came up with the game ceiling layup to get the Wolves to win. So like I said, Cat had his best game of the series finishing with 25 points, 5 rebounds. He was 9 for 13 from the field, 4 for 5 from 3.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Ant-Man had 29 points, 10 rebounds, 9 assists. He was 11 for 25 from the field. Mike Conley added 14.7 assists, 4 steals. And Rudy Gobert had a double-double, 13 points, 10 rebounds, nine assists. He was 11 for 25 from the field. Mike Conley added 14.7 assists, four steals. And Rudy Gobert had a double-double, 13 points, 10 rebounds. On the Mavs side, Luka had his sixth triple-double this postseason, 28 points, 15 rebounds, 10 assists. But he was seven for 21 from the field. Kyrie had 16 points and four assists, but he was six for 18 from the field. So the Wolves improved to 3-0 in elimination games this postseason and ended Kyrie's streak of 14-0 in closeout games, gave him his first loss in a closeout game. So Cat was shooting just 28% from the field in this series, coming into game four, picked the perfect time to get hot, especially after saying that he'd been shooting up to 1,500 shots per day, whether or not that's Cat.
Starting point is 00:43:23 But what was different about Cat in this game versus the first three games of this series? Not a damn thing. He was even more aggressive. No. Yeah, he was. He didn't shoot a three until, like, the second half. He didn't shoot until the second half.
Starting point is 00:43:38 He had five points. He was 0 for 1 in the second quarter. He only took three shots in the first quarter. He got in foul trouble. Looked like he was trying to foul out the in the second quarter. He only took three shots in the first quarter. He got in foul trouble. Looked like he was trying to foul out the game the whole time. And I'm going to just be honest. As I'm watching the full game, three plays, I just realized there's just something wrong with this whole team. With the Wolves?
Starting point is 00:44:05 With the Wolves. They're Isolo and Cat on the iso. Rudy's posting up. Yep. And all three times, he passed Rudy the ball. He don't want it down there. I've never in my life seen Rasheed Wallace on the iso, and then Ben Wallace is posting up, and he actually gives him the ball.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I've never seen someone Dennis Rodman is doing this and they actually give him. Dennis Rodman was smart enough. Go to work. Go to work. Dennis Rodman was smart enough to know. Get the fuck out of here. I don't care who was on him. He knew that wasn't what he did.
Starting point is 00:44:52 So the fact that Rudy's down there posting up and Kat is actually passing the ball just lets me know what type of person he is. Switch it. Let Rudy catch it, and then you duck it, and he passes you the ball. I've never seen the better score high-low into the worst post-up guy. And it just—it was just crazy. Like, like no you're really trying to throw this game and the fact that he got two open shots and made the threes he decided oh let me keep going like when he drove to the lane i can he dunk still because he was driving to the lane it looked like he was about to get up. And I was like, oh, man, man, I don't have no legs.
Starting point is 00:45:28 No legs. It's soft. Like, he was barely tapping. And I was like, oh, man. Now I can see why he chucks threes the whole time. Because he has no lift. He was barely tapping. No, he was barely tapping. I think the thing, to your point, Gil, about getting it to go bare was,
Starting point is 00:45:41 you know if he got fouled, he's not a good free throw shooter. And is that who you want to make your season on? It just didn't make no basketball sense. You have the guy you wanted, and then you're throwing it down. I'm like, what the f... I was trying to sub their ass out. Coach couldn't hear me. But I was saying it the whole time.
Starting point is 00:45:58 This is what it looks like when you're trying to foul out of the game, and then he caught fire and then... That's what I say about their offense bro like it was not they don't have an offense that's geared around their better players to get them good shots quality shots you see how where cat was catching the ball at he not being aggressive the only one being aggressive is and they're loading up on him the other guys are it's easy to like even
Starting point is 00:46:25 mcdaniel's i had mcdaniel's higher than 10 points like he only gave me 10 and like it was 10.5 it was supposed to be aggressive naz reed had him higher than 12 he didn't you're supposed to be aggressive tonight you'll have four points right but it ain't because they don't want to be aggressive it's because the way they're playing the offense if you're getting high low and you're throwing it down to fucking Rudy and Rudy's clogging the paint You don't have no openings for drives. You don't have no openings for nothing. It's nasty work out there It was just it just like I'm looking at some of the things and it was like where's y'all basketball IQ?
Starting point is 00:46:58 Where's the where's the IQ of? How you guys like Ant-Man's on the ISO, right? And then Rudy's on this block. The fact that he had to do this, move, right? Get out of the way. And I'm like, that should already be known. So the fact that you move lets the defender know you're trying to go right, right? If you're just sitting there, he moved on his own,
Starting point is 00:47:23 now you can take that dude off the dribble like little things like that like if you wave somebody out i'm gonna just back up a little bit knowing that you're about to try to take off on me right like those are little things as a basketball player you should already know i should already look at you and say you got the iso let me get the fuck out of there right i i should already know oh you picked up your dribble now i can go duck in and get like it's just little things that it's like they're driving into space This guy's cutting why this guy's driving. It's just some things. I'm just like Where's y'all basketball IQ, but it's always the nigga that can't play Offensively this always wanting the ball
Starting point is 00:48:01 You don't think you think it's like I't know, like they just going brain dead? I think they just... Sometimes I'll be feeling like it's like a little jealousy too. No, I just think in their mind, sometimes players in their minds think they're better than they are. And then sometimes they, like, we're looking for the advantage. And I think some of them really think, oh, I got a little guy on me. Yeah. Rudy like that every play.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Not understanding, hey, hey, relax. Know your personnel. Right. You take five shots a game, you're ducking 15 times a game. Stop. Stop. Right. Let me drive.
Starting point is 00:48:39 You clear? When I drive, you cut. Look at how Dennis Rodman played. Look how some of these guys played on how they get the ball. I see CJ, what is it, CJ, the kid from Indiana. TJ. I see him get wide open layups under the basket because he's hanging around. His man is not, he's ducking in.
Starting point is 00:49:02 That's how you can play. If your man is jumping to block every shot, you should have all those offensive rebounds. Once your guy lifts, he's off you now. So you should be doing a lot of cleanup work. That's where you get your buckets in.
Starting point is 00:49:19 If there's a switch in, like I don't even see them doing real picks and really rolling. Nope. it's like pick like roll get out of there yeah fake shit like i'm telling a man and man listen i'm gonna just be honest with you stop doing the pick with cat he's gonna pop yep he's popping it's a switch pop it's not even a hard show like when i had antoine it's a they're trying they got a hard show me and then i can pass it to him.
Starting point is 00:49:45 The fact that it's a pick and pop, you don't have no advantage. You might as well take the motherfucker you got on you. Yep. Because he damn near has a guard on him, too. Yep. It's Jones and... You got D. Jones and P.J. Washington. Those are the same two players.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Yep. Right? So doing a pick to put the other one on you might as well just go one for flat It doesn't even be making no sense. They do that. It's like they're just switching it the same guy Why is the same guy are you calling him over? So weird, I guess this is for like movement because I'm gonna act like they moving like that's it That's it. It's just a fake move It's like they've either like they're doubled like the horns pick is like it's like I'm gonna go off of this guy
Starting point is 00:50:24 There's guys gonna screen to this guy and it the the cat is not open when you're doing that ever open he's he can't be the first picker because it's just a switch right it's a switch then whatever it's the switch and sag dog like maybe if you have rudy go set the pick on cats man now that man is lagging and then you can have a run and now he's flaring. Like little things like that. I just looking at it like these motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:50:49 just, this coaching staff is dumb. Trash. You got to say what it is. Oh, it's like watching a movie and seeing clips in the movie that don't need to be there. It's like,
Starting point is 00:51:00 what the fuck is that? What's this scene for? This was a pointless scene. So you guys doing the horns action at the top and they switch switch switch and then you got the same guy on you That was on you when you came off the first screen Same guys on you. Y'all just did all of that for fucking that you just so I'm thinking what is the coach calling this? Play for if you're not getting nothing out of it, but I so You just spent eight seconds. Did they my two three four so like I'm like it's
Starting point is 00:51:32 He did good in the second half right he hit his shot his second half. He hit the shots He was missing earlier, but is he playing functional basketball to make him successful? No He hasn't he has right he's slow is he playing functional basketball to make him successful? No. He hasn't. He has. Right. He's slow. He does not have any explosion.
Starting point is 00:51:53 So that means if you pass the ball to cat. Right. Heist was a woman's three or NBA three. 90 percent. He has to take a jump shot. Even if he do get to the basket, he ain't going to make that shit over big fella down there. Big fella Gafford, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Yeah, he's going to alter it. Yeah, he's going to beat it. He's going to alter it. So, therefore, what you want to do is high-low. Rudy catch it. Let him dunk in, which means if he gets to the bottom, where's Gafford at?
Starting point is 00:52:28 Not down there protecting the rim. Right? If Rudy's down there, he takes his man. Gafford is there. Do high-low. Let Rudy catch it. Throw the ball down there. Since you got Rudy doing hand-offs the whole goddamn game, Rudy catch the ball
Starting point is 00:52:44 at the three-point line. He gonna hand it. dump it in the cat keep gaffer at the top now cat can go down there and feel comfortable making layups i'm still trying to figure out why they they haven't accepted bringing rudy off the bench to be honest like like you said this is not his series you know what he should not fucking be i'm not I'm not going to bring him off the bench. He is useful. Like, when you're playing, he's useful. But it just seems like they have it wrong. Like, since Rudy is playing at the top of the key, this is when you have Cat go down.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Cat, you and Rudy switch positions. You switch roles right now. Because think about what I'm saying Rudy Rudy is doing all the duck ends Mm-hmm when it should be cat doing all the duck is let let cat do the duck is really you're doing a feeding Let Rudy stay at the top because at the end of the day the fuck you gonna do anyway Well, this is the difference Rudy throwing it in the cat means Gaffer can sag into the lap of cat If you got Nas Reed throwing that bitch in, you got a jump shooter that you can't sag on me. You got to come up.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I can throw that in. You got space down there. No, true. But look, now here's a counter. If Gafford is going to sag into his lap, I'm going to just do a handoff with Antworks. Now, when he comes off, Gafford is still sagging. And I think that's where Ant was getting a lot of his open jumpers
Starting point is 00:54:03 last night was the fact that Gaffer was playing drop. Because, well, not because Cat was ducking in or anything, just because that's their offensive scheme. But I'm looking at, like, Nas Reed is a better option offensively than Rudy Gobert. And the fact that they got three bigs that can play defense, that can do not necessarily what Rudy does defensively, but they got size. It's a big size. So, offensively, I'm watching the game, and it's just so frustrating just to see that they haven't made any adjustments. So, my question to y'all is this. Did the Timberwolves beat them last night, or did the Mavericks lose?
Starting point is 00:54:44 The Mavericks beat themselves. Because they look tired. Luka looked tired. Kyrie looked like, all right, man, fuck. They get it. They didn't make shots either. It's just like anything. It's just Luka and them ain't been playing well.
Starting point is 00:54:59 They've been playing good, but for the most part, it's just been them two. I don't think Wol wolves did anything to beat them They just hit shots. That's such like for the most part. It was a close game like usual and Wolves hit shots at the end when it counted now If Wolves tweaked their defense if they actually Said all right. What are we doing wrong? They can actually try to come back.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Because for the most part, it's an even kind of an even match. Every game is. Right. It's kind of even. It's just a couple of plays here and there. The problem with the Wolves right now is this. They're showing you how hard it is to score when you take out the best player.
Starting point is 00:55:50 They're taking out Ant-Man. Why are you still allowing Luka, the dude who averaged 34, 9, 9? Why are you letting him play one-on-one? So the fact that you guys haven't doubled,
Starting point is 00:56:10 what is happening to Ant-Man, why haven't you actually tried it on Luka? They're afraid. Of what? The fact that you... He's beat you three times doing the same shit. He's done whooped the whole NBA's ass all season doing the same defense I don't know if they watch tape in round one
Starting point is 00:56:29 what he did against a Clippers iso in second round, but I When we don't wait when we play right? Coach has a scheme scheme don't work. What happens we get out of that scheme. Mm-hmm because it didn't work just that one possession yeah that's all it takes is one possession we're not to worry about all right that didn't work but that's not how it should go let us try to double luca if pj hits the shot right we're not gonna get out of it he got hit that shot all night he got hit that shot all night and we're not gonna let luca beat us because the moment we take this bitch off, he going right back to 30.
Starting point is 00:57:09 And that's I think that the NBA's problem is they don't want to scheme up just like against Steph. You don't want to double Steph because you keep passing to Draymond and you let Draymond take the game. And it's like, well, why won't we just do that? Because the moment we stop is the moment Steph goes off because we're scared of what happens on the backside. You got to allow the backside to happen until the point where it's being consistent that it's like, yo, Klay's hot tonight.
Starting point is 00:57:35 We can't get that up. Let's change this game up, but we're still going to double this. Let's just fake and recover on Draymond or let's full rotate on Draymond. Let's do something different. They're not doing that in a series where they believe that it's going to work. It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:57:49 If I'm going to have somebody dictate the offense, I don't want it to be the number one option. But you got Kyrie out there still. Okay. What I'm saying is I'd rather let whoever you're going to pass it to dictate now.
Starting point is 00:58:04 He has to do things he hasn't done before. Yes, he might get hot a quarter or two, but I know what's happening to the star player. He got it again. He mentally, I don't give a fuck what. Listen, he's frustrated because he averages 35. So if he got three or four points going into the half trust me selfishness is kicking the fuck in absolutely yeah it kicks in i don't care what nobody i don't give a fucking we up 10 15 points his stats yeah is jeopardized and he decides he needs to go selfish
Starting point is 00:58:41 and he starts getting frustrated that means every pass and every shot that is missed off his passes. He's even madder. That's what you want Do you think that's weird that you can have a four-point have and think you playing bad just because the scheme it doesn't go in Your favor. Yeah It's not weird is reality But you you have to be a different type of person to To your team is up 10 and you being healed before And you okay with me? Okay. Yeah, that is hard. Oh, no, it's that's That's hard. That's championship shit That's one championship But inside though
Starting point is 00:59:25 You're still just like No that is When you win in championships You think like that Yeah There's no championship players right now No I'm just saying The only championship player is Kyrie
Starting point is 00:59:35 And that's why he can do that That's what I'm saying The mentality of knowing I gotta be the decoy If I gotta stand out here like We watched Kayla Clark be face guarded Like the way she's Like if you're gonna
Starting point is 00:59:44 If this person is not gonna help The other team play defense and you're just gonna face i'm gonna stand right here i'm gonna stand right here you come in drive all the way to the you got no help you got a free lane okay okay let's throw that 30 though right so but just the thought of it knowing like luca is i'm not saying that he is doing this but i'm just saying if you got a four-point half and you coming out like I'm going to be aggressive because I feel like I'm playing bad, I was like, you're not playing bad at all. Like you're doing what the offense needs you to do. Be out of the way. It's not your game today.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah, but that's what I said, but everybody ain't. This is the only person who understands stuff like that right now in this game is Kyrie. That's why he can go quarters and halves with only taking one, two shots because we're winning. This guy's on fire. So he understands that part because he knows it's just about winning the game. When you're a stat collector and you're young, you're not there mentally yet. So that's why I wouldn't do that. That's why I didn't say double Kai.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Because Kai will accept the double and be the decoy. Luka ain't ready for that one yet. Hey, so will Brown be cool if the next series is all about Tatum? Yeah. You think so? Yeah, he's played that role. He's already done that role. He's done that season in, season out, being okay with Tatum? Yeah. You think so? Yeah, he's played that role. He's already done that role. He's done that season in, season out,
Starting point is 01:01:06 being okay with Tatum being the guy. As long as they're winning, I would imagine. Yeah. But that's what I said. That whole team is like that, though. Drew Holiday, they're all, they've all accepted their fate.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Well, yeah, Drew, but they already won. These other guys, they ain't won yet. Like Tatum, they ain't won it yet. But they all take him back. You can see they've taken backseat quarters have the only thing that puts anything between them two is usually media yeah that's it who's rolling who's not you know I'm saying I think like I said with Luka if Luka's not rolling Kai takes he knows he's
Starting point is 01:01:37 watching like all right I gotta take this from from Luka because he's not rolling but that's what I'm saying about Luka if L Lucas saying. Oh, I'm not rolling I'm gonna let Kai do him. Yeah, like there's no there's no it's not there's no chest in this stuff like me like I'm I'm gonna double Because at the end of the day there is a finals MVP Yeah, magic Johnson. Well, no, no, no, no Western Congress, there's a Western Congress MVP trophy magic right now right now whose trophy is that? I'll say I mean if the man's wouldn't look at right Luka, right?
Starting point is 01:02:12 Now if he's held the 1015 points and Kyrie has 40, whose is it Kyrie's right? Mmm Mary's has it again? He's as a as a coach As a coach on the opposing team I'm playing to that I'm playing to the war That he wants I know he wants this award If he wants this award
Starting point is 01:02:35 The only way I can Win this game is if I Jeopardize it for him and the only way I can jeopardize It from him is to double the fuck out of him As soon as the game Starts make him think about that trophy going to another person And he will help me win this game. That's just for sure. That's he he won't help me win it Oh, that's fact, bro
Starting point is 01:02:57 This man will go out this get trying to get double he gonna be trying to get fouled at the half court pull it into he Gonna do whatever it takes. No, I don't think he'll care right now. You crazy as hell. You crazy. He thinks he's playing bad. He's like, I'm going to have my bag in. The finals, yeah, but I don't think Western Conference, I don't think he'll care.
Starting point is 01:03:14 It's a trophy. Nah, I don't think he'll care right now. Luka currently averaging 32, 10 rebounds, 9 assists in these four games. Kyrie would have to string together. This is one game, and they're going off of one game. We just seen someone get it with second-tier stats. Yeah, but they were close.
Starting point is 01:03:30 They were close. Okay, so therefore... No, no. Tatum's stats clearly was saying 30-10-6. Yeah. That's when they gave it to Brown for 35-5. If Kyrie had 40-something-50 tonight, it's his. So that's why 30 so that's what I said Kyrie have it doesn't said if Kyrie have 40 something 50 tonight
Starting point is 01:03:45 Is this? So I'm that's what I said. That's how I'm playing. I'm playing to that. I'm playing though I'm playing for ego, but if they extend to think about if they extend it and Luca have another Even though he had a fucking triple-double triple That's what I'm saying the but shot bad His stats without the the field goals included, like, still. But it's the loss.
Starting point is 01:04:08 20-15 and 10 is still 20-15 and 10. You're losing, though. So, he lose two games and they play so hard. Kyrie get his numbers up. Yeah. And then they close out and Kyrie has a good game. It's a conversation. That's what I'm playing to the ego.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah. It's the only way I have a chance to win. So, I'm just going to double this dude. I'm not going to double Ky because Ky is willing to be doubled for the betterment of the team. It's the only way I have a chance to win. So I'm just going to double this dude. I'm not going to double Kai because Kai is willing to be doubled for the betterment of the team. Luka ain't there. That's what I said. Luka's not there yet. Some players are just not there yet. It takes time. It takes winning
Starting point is 01:04:33 to get to that point. And we talk about this series. Obviously, Mavs leading 3-1 could very easily be 2-2. Could very easily be 3-1 for the Wolves. On that side, I mean, blowing numerous fourth quarter leads in those first three games, finally got one together. I was thinking about that, too.
Starting point is 01:04:50 They can't. It's a game of runs, but the fact that they have a lead up until a certain point, the Timberwolves, they have certain leads, and they don't sustain those leads, and they let the Mavs come back. It's troublesome. I mean, they're a look of eye-dotting if he misses that shot away from being 2-2 now. Completely different series.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I got it going back to Dallas. Six? It could. That's what I'm saying. If you look at it and it's just like, yo, if y'all just tweak just how you guys are playing offense and just do one different thing on defense. Like, stop doing pick-and- roll with dudes that got the same guy
Starting point is 01:05:27 On you right unless you're gonna do a pick and roll with Conley and get Kai on you you do a pick and roll with Even with even with Rudy like if you're gonna do it go Right. Meet me at the rim Look at who's on the back line taking charges Right, you know Gafford ain't gonna take no charge. So leave that motherfucker back there. Leave him back there because what's happening is you going and once you get your speed up, that dude is just sitting back there waiting for a charge on you.
Starting point is 01:05:55 Man. The best play they had yesterday was when Kyle Anderson did the back pick for Cat in the corner. That was like the best play they... The only reason I like him on the court is because he's smart basketball. He knows how to play basketball. I just hate when him and Rudy are on the court together. Yeah, it's bad business.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Yeah, it's bad business. So it has to be, you can't have both because you have both, it makes it harder for Ant-Man to score because now you got two people you can sit off of. So let's talk a little bit,
Starting point is 01:06:22 we'll talk about Kyle in a second, but let's talk about Ant-Man directly benefited from Cass Bucky getting talked about how that helped him get going as well in the fourth quarter. Late in that fourth, because Cat and Jayden was knocking him down, I was able to just get anywhere I wanted. And whether I miss it or make it, I can live with that. And I haven't been doing that the last three games of the series.
Starting point is 01:06:41 I've been going to the corner and not shooting the ball and not being aggressive. And yeah, that won't happen anymore. Anytime late in the fourth, I'm going to shoot it every time. And shout out to Ant-Man rocking the Malcolm X shirt. I don't know if that was a message he was sending, but by any means necessary. They're trying to get back to Dallas for game six. So Ant was three for seven from the field in the fourth quarter of game four. He hadn't taken more than four shots in any of the previous three games in the fourth quarter. How important is it for Ant-Man to be aggressive in the fourth quarter of the series moving forward? I don't think it's just him. I think it's just his other teammates.
Starting point is 01:07:17 When his other teammates are making shots, it's easier for him. That's the thing. They wasn't making shots. So when they're making shots, it's easier for him to be aggressive towards the end. It has nothing to do with the fourth. I mean, you know, Cat in the third led to open shots in the fourth, right? You know, because now we have to guard Cat, right? I think Conley, you know, because Cat was down, Conley stepped up in the first half right and then
Starting point is 01:07:47 Carl I Was calling I was calling him Jordan Towns yesterday. That's how bad he was. I was calling his girlfriend He's oh, yeah, he was playing like a hoe at the first half. So I was like Must must bring out Jordan But you know, no, no, no. Third quarter, third quarter, third quarter. He shed, he shed, he shed. He was playing like a what? Oh, no, he was playing like a female.
Starting point is 01:08:10 First half. Oh, it was just. Those are different. Nice. It's about the same thing. Side show Bob legs. I mean, he's got the big-ass feet, man. He was looking real girlish in the first half.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Look, he looked real girlish when he's missing shots. That's all I'm saying. Look feminine. Yeah, he had to man up. He had to man up. And he didish in the first look he looked real girlish when he's missing shots. That's all I'm saying look I mean it yeah, yeah, he had to man up yet the man up and he did that in the second half So I'm gonna give him his credit right and um As always the views expressed on this show Are not those of underdog fantasy. Okay, come on, baby. He was playing real soft Women are great basketball players. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Hey, so let's stick to what we talked about. Okay, let's return to the actual conversation I had. Sure, sure. So we can stay on the air for another week. So I think what happened was Conley took a backseat when Cat was scoring and McDaniels, and they need to still be effective because I don't think McDaniels or Conley took a shot in the fourth quarter and you you gotta be you gotta be you gotta be a threat yeah thanks right you know you gotta be a threat you can't go seven eight
Starting point is 01:09:24 minutes playing and not they did so they didn't take a shot got to be a threat you can't go seven eight minutes playing and not Did it so they didn't take a shot? Yes, you can't you can't do that all right, like Like a man said, you know, like he's gonna be aggressive in for the only way he can be ultra aggressive If you guys are still being effective, right? So you guys still got to take your open shots and still look for your shot. So the defense is honest You need the defense is honest. You need the defense still honest.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Let's think about game recognition, though. First three quarters, right? As a team, you played the whole season understanding what you're going to do the first three quarters and what you're going to do on the fourth. Only the really good teams realize that what players are going to get to their spots in the fourth quarter and develop their rhythm to close the game out right i think kairi's figured that out lucas figured that out um i'm not gonna say boston has but there's certain teams that's figured that out i think the ant-man needs to figure that out figure out that in the fourth i get to my spots to go to where i'm comfortable and everyone else knows how to get me in my spots McDaniels Conley Nas read
Starting point is 01:10:27 Alexander all those guys need to in the first three quarters figure out how to get in a rhythm If you're not figuring out how to get in the rhythm in the first three quarters, I can't depend on you in the fourth To get you the ball when I'm being aggressive because they're gonna key in on me, right? That's gonna be the thing to stop us in the fourth. If we're up, we got to give stops on Ant-Man because he's going to look to be aggressive in the fourth. So when I'm looking to be aggressive, you guys got to be in a rhythm to hit shots.
Starting point is 01:10:55 So the fact that you guys ain't taking those shots in the fourth means that you're not being in a whole rhythm throughout the whole game where Ant-Man is trusting in you to take those shots where he's getting you the ball last night like you said they hit shots because it's time to hit shots this nigga you're about to get executed so in order to stay alive another day we got hit some shots cool but that's why i asked y'all the question did they beat them or did they lose the game because to me it felt like the Mavs just gassed out they didn't have what it take to take it over the hump and that's just
Starting point is 01:11:30 what it was so it gave them a little bit of life the next game to me is like all right if Kyrie and them get their energy back and they do hit shots let's think about it if Kyrie and them hit shots the game is over game is over there's nothing that the Minnesota Timberwolves have done that's been a threat to the Mavs that's going to make the Mavs say, we need to change something. The Mavs haven't changed anything. Y'all haven't done anything to make them change. So all they got to do is hit shots. All y'all got to do is miss shots, and then it's over.
Starting point is 01:11:58 It's not one of them close games where it's back and forth and back and forth. Even if you miss and I miss and you miss and I miss you miss and I miss We still in the game and we know we can go either way It ain't it don't feel like that Minnesota the office is just nasty as it is. It's like nasty But you talk about the Mavs and the maturity being in a potential closeout game And having Luca and Kyrie only combined for 44 points, which was their lowest total in the series 13 for 39 from the field. Is that concerning at all, or is it just,
Starting point is 01:12:28 hey, we're tired of whooping these dudes' asses, we need to... Not just one game. Just one game. Just one game. But knowing, hey, we got four more of these, we got to win one of the next four games. What are they averaging?
Starting point is 01:12:38 I can't think like that. What are they averaging together, like 50? 60. 60. They averaging 60? Yeah, they'd have been in the 60s. Yeesh. That's why I said they got 44.
Starting point is 01:12:46 Like, 44. But that's what I'm saying. Luca 28, Kyrie 16. It's not like they have anybody on the other side that's really, that's really selfish enough to try to take four or five shots. Because the dude that did that
Starting point is 01:13:02 don't play. Junior, Tim Hardaway Jr., don't play. That was the only person that can sit there and say, all right, y'all going to get double. I'm going to just, I'm going to fire. For sure. Right? The fact that he don't get in the game, you know,
Starting point is 01:13:17 Derrick Jones, they're only going to keep shooting if they make shots. They're not going to go 0 for 10. They're going to go 0 for 3, and then everything else is going to be hesitant after that. And that's all you're waiting for. I just think Ant needs to understand when he's going downhill, stay downhill. Because sometimes what happens is he's attacking, he gets to the free throw line, he don't see nothing. He'll pull it all the way back out to then attack again.
Starting point is 01:13:44 Nah, don't do that. You had the free throw line, pro right there, then attack from right there. Because once you pull it all the way back out, now the defense sets. Now you're spending more energy to go back to where you just came from. I don't like how they're teaching guys to go downhill, you get in a spot, and then wingle right back out of it, and then attack again. Nah, dog. You already here, right?
Starting point is 01:14:10 Go back to the basket. Don't get face back up and attack from here. Now, it's hard to load up on you if you stay here. There's nothing that's going to happen. You stay right here, dog. It's fine. You got enough handles that there's just out of right here. It just brings everybody closer. Yeah. Now I'm here. Okay. It's fine. But you got enough handles that there's just out of right here.
Starting point is 01:14:25 It just brings everybody closer. Yeah. Now I'm here. Okay. I ain't got nothing. Oh, shit. Let me just post it up. All right.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Turn face. Let me just attack right here. One dribble versus pulling all the way back outside the three to then do a pick and roll to then try to get back to where you just came from. It just seemed too tiring. Yep. But you got to think about fourth quarter. So you got to think about fourth quarter, so you got to think about,
Starting point is 01:14:45 like, less energy to score. Easy shot. When you were hooping, how much did you factor that in? All the time. So first, second, Like I was,
Starting point is 01:14:55 like I was taught less dribbles to score. Right? We played on angles. Right? It's angles. Like, all right, crossover.
Starting point is 01:15:04 All right, that's the nail. Pick up right here. I'm not going to sit here, bounce, bounce, bounce. One leg angles. Alright, crossover. Alright, that's the nail. Pick up right here. I'm not going to sit here, bounce, bounce, bounce, one leg, do this bullshit. No, just one dribble, pick it up and go. It was always long. It was long strides. Like Giannis, from the
Starting point is 01:15:20 half court, two dribbles. Boom. That's how you played. So all this dribbling, doing all this. You dribble under, keep it under, two dribbles. Boom. That's how you played. Right? So all this dribbling, doing all this. And, you know, you dribble under, keep it under, do all this, and pull it back out. That's for little guards. That's what little guards do.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Right? When you're a big athletic guard, you're trying to shorten your dribbling and use more length and jumping ability. Right? So when I see guys get in there and then they pull it up, I'm like, nah, you already had them on the ropes, dog. Turn your back. Yeah, turn your back, post up, and then you go, like you got five seconds, right? I don't even know if you, you don't even have five seconds facing up.
Starting point is 01:15:57 You don't even have that. They're not working on that shit. Like you got five seconds, once you put your back to the basket, right, count four, alright, come face up, count off. Go back four, like you got five seconds once you put your back to the basket right count for all right come face up count off Go back for like you you got to understand your count your cap when I pick it up It's five seconds, so I don't got to pick it up It didn't try to figure out how to throw it
Starting point is 01:16:13 I got five seconds after I pick it up unless I'm in the lane, then I got three They got to understand all those those look That but that's with age. Yeah, right when you start Understanding you're unlocking these extra doors, and that's with age. Yeah. Right? When you start understanding, you're unlocking these extra doors. And that's also watching other players. Right? Like, Luka has some stuff that he's playing off of human behavior. All right?
Starting point is 01:16:36 He's coming in. Boom. Okay, he's running hard. With the way he's running, I know he's going to jump. So let me go ahead, pump, fake it. Boom. Yep. Boom.
Starting point is 01:16:43 He gets a lot of fouls just faking like he about to shoot it, knowing you're running real fast, and then he's going to come in until you get the fouls. You've got human behavior where referees are positioned at, so what are they looking at to know what you can get away with? The number one thing with all guards that are under 6'6", they do not want to play post-defense. No guard wants to play down in the gas chamber.
Starting point is 01:17:11 So what he's talking about as far as getting downhill, what he used to do, what Chauncey used to do, what all the bigger guards used to do, get downhill, turn your back. As soon as I get you, Andre Miller used to do it the best. As soon as he get past you, get down into the touch-pane area, turn his back. Now I got you down here down into the touch paint area, turn his back. Now I got you down here.
Starting point is 01:17:28 Now the bigs got to come help you. They got to come help. Somebody cut. Somebody space. I'm creating a mismatch down here because I know how to get my jump hook on. I know how to turn and shoot over you. And that's the thing that Ant-Man has to learn. But it's training. I think if you're not training in that area where you come downhill, get to guy.
Starting point is 01:17:48 You got him in front of you. He's trying to stop you from getting to the cup. Turn your back. Now it's big boy shit. Now you got to foul me or let me go. No guard wants to. They swipe down all the time. It's an automatic foul.
Starting point is 01:18:01 Think about Chris Paul, right? What's his signature move? Right dad that fake going under one dribble pull like damn near like a pull fade baseline That's the signature move a guard a guard Doing a fade away off of one dribble. That's his move. That's what he liked to do That's what I'm saying like because guards don't want to play defense right there. Because I can't touch you. I can't do nothing. You know, you have to free the line.
Starting point is 01:18:27 I can't do nothing with you. They don't know what to do. They don't even know what to do. They don't know what to do down there. They don't know what to do. I'm great at, you know, coming off the pick and roll, doing this. Ah, ah. You start getting, like, closer to the basket.
Starting point is 01:18:38 You start to look around. Yes. Where's the help? And that's where some of those bigger two guards need to really really like start realizing like This is untapped territory for certain type of people. These people don't know how to play defense right here McDaniels is great fighting you over and keeping you in front of him in a three Put his little ass in a post and start trying to do damage at that logo. He will foul you
Starting point is 01:19:07 He will foul you. It's a different defense right there. Yes. Right? It's a different, like Chris, I mean, Bruce Bourne was great in an area. Come off this pick and roll. Yeah, you don't know how to play this. The hips don't move. The motherfucker feet get to move.
Starting point is 01:19:21 They don't know how to move. Yeah, you know how to fight through screens and come off down screens and cut over and post up and have your postie. How about pick and roll and iso one four flat from the top? You don't know how to play defense like that. Right? You have to see what a guy is great at and keep him out of that area and put him in areas he do not know how to play defense. But that's studying the game. That takes time.
Starting point is 01:19:42 But like the Mavs did with Luka and Rudy Gobert. You have to look at how Luka plays. What is his strengths? What does he actually love to do? Right? He loves this type of step. He loves these type of movements. How do we keep him out of these movements?
Starting point is 01:19:56 When does he do these movements? Right? When he's in the middle of it. How many times does he shift, shift, shift before he does a step back? You have to watch the game that's right how long is he going to play with you same thing with with uh james harding bop bop bop bop all right he's gonna go bop bop to go this way so bop bop boom bop bop bop bop to go this way he has a pattern on how he shoots that's crazy everyone has a pattern just figure out the
Starting point is 01:20:23 algorithm once you figure out the algorithm you can disturb it. So we sit there and watch it even like Katie. He got his yeah Yep Brian I got his so yeah, Brian got him. He's looking he looked down Look down at his feet. Yep. See that because because all he's looking at is like our which foot is back Okay, that foot is back then he can't come this way. I can shoot it. And y'all say that watching, but even like LeBron in that FU3 that he's still getting off. I can't believe he's getting off.
Starting point is 01:20:52 But I'm saying when you're in a game watching it, how hard is it to- No, because you're being a dumb defender. You're- It's called to put you to sleep. We're walking you to sleep, right? But if you're a dumb defender, you're being mesmerized by who you're guarding instead of knowing in real time,
Starting point is 01:21:09 I'm on top of this because I know what he about to do. Like, if you make Kobe go to his counters, it's because he know that you watch film of him. You make Gil go to his second move, he knowing that, oh, you've been watching film,
Starting point is 01:21:23 so I'm going to my second move. If you make him go to his third move, he's like, oh, you've been watching films, so I'm going to my second move. If you make him go to his third move, he's like, fuck. Because I'm spending more time going to my first, second, then my third move. I got to pass by the time I'm at my third move. So when you talk about the James Harden shit, bop, bop, bop, bop, send one.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Now he's got to pick his head up because he's got his head down. When you're training kids, they got their head down and you're like, pick your head up because he's got his head down. When you're training kids, they got their head down. You're like, pick your head up, boy, so you can see the double coming. Because they're going to come to you if you're torching. But the defense nowadays in the NBA, they don't. In real time, like you said, it's difficult for them to figure out what to do against a good player because they're all mesmerized. And it's like, it's not that fucking difficult
Starting point is 01:22:05 if we're all on the string and we know, hey, Luka's on the side pick and roll and he's going to bong, bong, bong, bong. He's looking for the iso. Send one at him. Because people don't realize the offense is watching you. Right? Think about it.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Think about what I'm saying. I'm telling the defense, you need to watch how these players are getting their shots off because they're watching how you play defense. That's how they understand. That's how they understand, all right, whenever someone goes to the right hand, he shifts. All right, boom, boom, step back.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Easy. It's easy. That's how easy it is. They're watching you. I watch tape on how people defend. OK, left and right crossover. He doesn't swing right to left. He swings. So he's more comfortable trying to reach like that versus like that. So I know when I do a crossover this way, I have to shorten it knowing that he's going to try to reach.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Then I can throw it over this way. It don't matter. I can be sloppy with it because i know he's never going to swing with that hand those are the things you have to understand you know as an offensive player on how to get past the defense now the defense has to sit there like dwight howard said it best but i don't think nobody paid attention to it he said when he was watching joker he watched everything lay up line how he sat on the bench how he walked to the bench like he so he's sitting there Studying all of the patterns and movements of the dude. So when it was game time, he understood how he played Mm-hmm. Look down at it. Mike, baby. Look down at his feet. He's gonna shoot it, right? Unless you're watching film and looking at the tick you would never know that. Mm-hmm Cuz he's you know, he's sit, look down at his feet and then shoot.
Starting point is 01:23:48 Like, no, why you put your hands up? Shit, I don't know. And then when you start watching film and film, you start realizing, oh, every time he looks down at his feet, he's about to shoot the ball every single time. That's like when Brandon, when he showed that video footage of him at Steph camp, he was torching Kent Bay more than him. Like, he had no idea. I'm watching. You're scouting. No, because I know how good he is,
Starting point is 01:24:10 and I know what he sees. He's seeing them like, oh, y'all ain't never going to figure this out. Y'all ain't never going to figure this out. Look, I hit you with this. Oh, no hand up? Okay, I'm going to hit you with this again. No hand up.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Oh, y'all have no idea how I'm getting away from y'all with this boom boom step back but it's from the left side he's a lefty and he's doing it opposite so they don't even they've never seen anything like that so i'm like all right so when i get brandon on the one-on-one i know exactly where he's going to he's going to that because ain't nobody can get to it and he don't he's like i ain't seen nobody stop it so i'm gonna go right we did play one-on-one. The first thing I moved,
Starting point is 01:24:47 and you was right there. I was like, watch it. You been watching. He adjusted because he's good enough to know, you on top of that. Next one, I got it. It's one of them things when you're a good enough player on both sides, you see the adjustments, you study it,
Starting point is 01:25:03 you're like, nah, nah, nah. They don't see what I see what i see i see it so i'm gonna make him adjust to that but those guys in real time they're not doing that they're not they're not accepting the challenge but a lot of guys are scared to get bopped too man like cook i think like most people don't know man they don't know they don't know what the elites know they don't know what the elite defender know they're scared to ask the questions Right like when like Gary Payton said it Kobe asked me. Yeah About how I defend and defend so I have to tell him here send me tape like the the at least want to know like I Want to know how you're great for a reason. Let me see. What what are you doing? Gary Payton broke it all the way down for for Kobe to learn how to play defense.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Right. Like Kawhi plays great defense. Ask him. Ask him as a defender. Are you watching tape? And then he will tell you, oh, shit, I never knew nothing, nothing about this. Some of these guys are getting all off. I just want to see how they play office. Let me know all give me all his Right pull-ups. I got a table all his right pull-up all this left put all the step backs because that's how they're being great They're watching you every time. Okay, this is what you do. Like everybody has some type of hitch. Yeah, thanks Everybody has a hitch in their game Unless somebody's really looking at it. That's what I'm telling you.
Starting point is 01:26:26 Everybody's Superman until you look at their flaws. And break them down. And when you start breaking down their game, you'll realize, oh, they're not that good. They're only good because you don't know them. You don't know them. And you're just looking at, oh, man, he's averaging 35. Ow. Just break him down.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Fuck the 35. Break down his game. See where you can compromise the stuff he does, and then he'll be easier to guard. Well, how much are y'all doing that during a playoff series in between games? That's what the fucking playoff series is for. Yeah, I'm about to say, you got a whole book. Book it. You got a whole book that's like...
Starting point is 01:26:57 How many guys are actually reading that? Everybody. No, not everybody. I mean, not everybody, but... You're supposed to, but not everybody. Put on this. When you play out there, you can tell. Everyone gets the book. Everybody gets the book. No, not everybody. I mean not everybody but you suppose to but not everybody Everyone gets the book I can tell you this when you go out there you can see who's messing up on a goddamn Sky report so even as you guys watch now you can see
Starting point is 01:27:19 Yeah was breakdowns or who? Just the fact that giving them said that they don't even Double Luca like there's no nobody's doing no adjustments. So they just go in there and say, we're going to live with this. And it's like, what are we doing at shoot-around? There's just little things, man. Like, I remember, so me and Jason Gardner was ball watchers. Like, we were ball tracking.
Starting point is 01:27:41 And I remember Coach O would be like, stop ball watching. Follow man and balls. Make sure you see man and balls. We sit there doing this. And then eventually we back to what's it at? I don't know what meeting they had with the people I was guarding, but I can tell you for a month straight, I was getting backdoor left and right.
Starting point is 01:28:06 It was like, it was to the point, just so, just backdoor, layup, layup, god damn, where you coming from? But the fact that
Starting point is 01:28:12 we're watching a game and if I'm on a coaching staff and one of the assistant coaches, hey yo, backdoor, hey, Ant-Man, Ant-Man, on your
Starting point is 01:28:28 eyesoles, look at this defender. He's going backdoor. Clear out. We're going to try to get him on three backdoors. Right? Hard, hard defender. Think about the Princeton offense. It was all reaction. Backdoor. You'll see. Backdoor, backdoor.
Starting point is 01:28:44 We're backdoor goddamn three people in a row. Yeah. Dribble, dribble. We're going to dribble at you. Antoine, backdoor. Kuran, backdoor. Gilbert, backdoor. One of them going to get fucking.
Starting point is 01:28:54 The hardest at the guard. Right? The hardest at the guard. The hardest. Y'all in Sacramento. To be an eight. We're backdoor, backdoor, backdoor to a turnaround. And a turnaround is automatically a backdoor.
Starting point is 01:29:04 Automatically. Right? But that's how the game is being played you got to understand basketball understand human behavior understand if this dude is supposed to take the charge that mean he's only watching the ball yeah even the flex cut like the actions that minnesota don't have that's putting you in some type of fear you think about the corner box flex cut where we used to train on how to guard that right you gotta face him up and make him go baseline so you can be there so they don't get the so now you know they're not training how to stop that you know if naz reed is in the corner he's coming off a fucking flex cut screen for the post-up, you're going to have now a down screen for whoever set that screen. These are all actions that you can get a good shot off of,
Starting point is 01:29:56 but I think the NBA is so now focused on spacing, getting five out, that you forget about all the clutter shit that can get you easy buckets. In series like this, this is a dog series that can go either way. We're making it out to be a shootout. Yeah, five out is the worst offense ever because it's five out, right? If I'm driving, someone's there. I drive this way, someone's there. So you automatically put me into turbo mode.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Now I got to do all these extra moves to try to get to lane because for the most part, it's forced for me to shoot a jumper. Yeah, I love 5-out. 5-out was great for me. I don't... Come right downhill. With someone in the corner and with someone at the top?
Starting point is 01:30:35 I mean, yeah, it's just the big. All I got to do is beat the big. What I'm saying is because nobody is cutting. No one cuts, right? On a 5-out, you know, you pass and... You know, old old school pass and cut So now he can drive because there's nobody there but this pass and stand now when he drives you got to give it to me Now I drive he loaded up. Yeah, just loading up like but is but I don't even see the the basic part of it
Starting point is 01:30:58 Like I pass I try to cut in front of the guy or come behind again None of that like they don't even jump to the ball. None of that. None of that. Like I'm seeing a dude pass and the defense just backs up. Just go. Cut to the basket. Cut in front of the dude like passing. He sags off. Boom. I don't even see it. I'm like, you know how many points
Starting point is 01:31:19 y'all was scoring? It's different today. Remember that action that we used to have like that? Throw it to the wing and cut off the big? Cut off the big. Man, that was the Darren Williams. They used to do that in Utah. Cut off the big. He'll come back off.
Starting point is 01:31:31 And he'll go into the pick and roll on the opposite. Yep. Come that way. Nigga, what? Kyle Korver coming off the damn bounce, man. 20 and 10. Off that. 20 and 10 off that.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Double call. We just see so much potential. You see so much potential and and you just be like... But is it the coaching or is it the players? My question has always been, if you're not being coached into situations as a player that's oblivious to how the NBA game should be played, you will never fucking know.
Starting point is 01:31:59 If you ain't never ran floppy in the last 10 years, you don't know how cold you can be coming off a fucking pin down doing floppy and be like, I get me 12 points a night off floppy because this nigga don't know how to guard the fucking pin down. I'm floppy. You got Conley over there, too. Conley.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Y'all don't have your own place, you and Ant-Man? You and Ant-Man supposed to be floppy, floppy. You said, bro, we're going floppy? We're going floppy to the ISO. D tonight so the way you weigh that joint Oh Lord cut me I'm coming to the side he gonna floppy up I so at the damn go to work it's nobody there I'll be Rudy in the dunks he gotta help up for all the fans out there that don't know what is floppy floppy is when I come down go like this you got two two bigs and then the two guards. Two guards in the box.
Starting point is 01:32:47 They come and then they just play. So one can be in the corner. Like, so you got your best shooter dead corner. That's where, like, Cal Corbett or somebody is flying off. But you're going to your score side. So you come off, go to the free throw line extended, and then the big go down and do the pick off the guard. Guard comes up.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Now this is option He got ISO myself usually that's the zip ISO or you can do a quick pick and roll Right right into a quick pick and roll so as soon as he comes up boom boom That was rolling rise rolling rise to that so that would be like haslam and D Wade Yep, so what it end up happiness here come up as soon as he catches the ball He's running right into a pick and roll right he split it. He can see he can split it He can do the bounce pass this guy's coming up corner guy He can backdoor off it. I mean he just has so many options off of it
Starting point is 01:33:34 But D Wade didn't have to use any energy to score those points. No AI coming off that I mean it was just a bunch of stuff I mean it was picked but they bases was picking too. Sometimes you got the floppy and let's say this guard, let's just say it's a mismatch and you got the big guard down there. Come down on the floppy and then just pass it right there.
Starting point is 01:33:55 I got you. Now this big man is going to duck off. If he ducks, that's a balance pass right now. If not, I have an iso right here. I love the flash with Monte and when the big goes down and get Monte to come off and hit off that right hand. So it's a wrap. Corey McGeady. Corey McGeady.
Starting point is 01:34:13 All right. Man, catch and go. Catch and go for the foul. Think about Detroit. Chauncey, Rip coming off the flop. So if Rip had that shit, he would average a 20 in game on floppy. But think about when they tried to stop the floppy, they would try to come shit, he would average a 20 in game on floppy. Right? But think about when they tried to stop the floppy, they would try to
Starting point is 01:34:27 come off with Chauncey's guy to stop the floppy. Chauncey fades to the left. Get the shot. Get the shot, yep. That's the one we used to run in Milwaukee. Monte, come on. Spacing, Brandon. Get your spacing. If not, hit the corner, go through, come back. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:34:43 It was so easy. It was just boom, cut through. By the time, go through, come back. You know what I mean? It was so easy. It was just boom, cut through. By the time, man, people all over the place. You know what makes me think that the coaching staff thinks these players are just stupid? They got to. They got to. I would be mad. I would be mad as a player.
Starting point is 01:35:00 You listen to a bunch of old ex-players these little plays that if I'm listening to it like there That'd be a little bit easier way. Hey coach. Why we don't do this any mother good life Yeah, just just passing just pass the cutter passes to that motherfucker cuz you can remember that you can remember a dumb player Can remember a that corner? That's your spot. That's your spot. Okay, coach. Okay, coach. What's up? What's up? Brian said on his broadcast, he said when they were running the set on one side of the floor and then they tried to run on the other one and the guys couldn't even figure it out. It's like-
Starting point is 01:35:33 They couldn't mentally flip. Like what? We're doing the same thing that we're doing on this left side. We're just going to do it on the right and we can't get it right? I got to get- That's how bad it is. You know what it is? When you think about it like that, think about all the players that was gifted that couldn't get on the court because they couldn't remember a play.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Facts. There's a lot of them. There's a lot of players who could not get on the court because they didn't know how to remember a play or going out of a timeout. They forgot it and got pulled out. Immediately. Now it's easier because, all right, let's take away all the plays and just pass and cut and just get open just just get just get open just great you gotta talk about basketball IQ let's talk a little bit about Kyle Anderson uh UCLA legend point guard in high school played
Starting point is 01:36:16 point guard at UCLA sees the floor in that way only had two points in the game but was instrumental in helping Cat cook in the fourth quarter so we got a couple of plays we're going to show you right now. So you see him right here. This was a simple one. Just getting Cat a good screen to get a shot off. But then this is the other one. I think, Brandon, you were talking about earlier.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Here's the play right here. We got him over here. Move space. Come on, Cat. Come on. Damn. and give him the rock The nice great Selfish now go back. Oh fish bro. Go back Just to load up No, no, no keep on keep so pass this one pass go to second place
Starting point is 01:37:04 All right here. Alright. Keep going a little bit. Just when everybody's like stagnant. Right? Why is Rudy asking? Now, now, now,
Starting point is 01:37:15 stop right here. I see you asking for it. Rudy's tripping, man. And this is what I'm saying about basketball IQ. This is the same thing I was talking about with Rudy, right?
Starting point is 01:37:25 You have him in the game, right? You have Ant-Man who was down there a little bit, and then he had to pull it back out. But just look at the offense itself. You have nowhere to go. Fast forward a little bit more. Play a little bit more. And why isn't that cat in Rudy's spot? Right?
Starting point is 01:37:40 That's what I said. It should be cat down there. Cat got motherfucking Kyrie on him. Cat ain't even right so look at it look now pause is that mcdaniel's number three yep why am i going to guard you from there who the fuck you think you are wow right why i be telling this to my little kid get to the three-point line i don't know where you i don't know why human behavior wants to just back the fuck up. I am not going to pass you the ball for you to pass it back to me. Triple threat.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Get into a position. I'm going to pass you the ball. What the fuck are you going to do with it if I give it to you? Fundamentals. Nothing. Scoring position. He is not in a scoring position right here. So that means he is not even effective right now.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Hence why he's at the nail. Because he knows once you get it right there, you're going to have to put the ball back down if you want to try to score on me. So I don't even have to react to you, dog. I don't have to react to you right now. You're not Dame. Nope. So right now you are non-factor, which makes
Starting point is 01:38:39 Ed man, he can't go left, he can't go right. This is what I be talking about, what makes it harder for you. I'm going to pass it to McDaniels for him to pass it back to me or pass it to someone else. If I'm going to pass the ball, I need you to be in a scoring threat. Right now, you're not in a scoring threat. You can go.
Starting point is 01:39:03 And Kyle Anderson's not in a scoring threat because he can't score. Rudy's not in a scoring. This is a bad lineup. And look at Kyrie. Kyrie could be in a better defensive position. Yeah, I can tell you right now. Kyle Anderson, stop. Luka's not looking at you right now.
Starting point is 01:39:17 You should cut right in front of this man. They all ball watching right now. Right in front of him for easy lay. Man. You will cut right in front of his body for easy pass. He is not looking at you whatsoever. Even McDaniels. McDaniels.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Gaffer not looking at McDaniels. No. All five of the Dallas Mavericks players are ball watching. They have no idea where their man is. You should be back door. Front cut, back door, all of it. That's what this looks like. So on film, this is all
Starting point is 01:39:52 I'll be talking about. Anderson, every time Luka turns his back to you, cut him. I'm a pack. The first quarter, that's all I'm going to do. All the first quarter, I'm just going to train them to look at their man Yeah, and all I'm gonna do is look we're gonna try to backdoor Luca. We're gonna back door
Starting point is 01:40:11 We're just gonna look for the back doors and front cuts. So by the time the fourth quarter come They not doing this on me. See I can only I can only vouch for Rudy on so many occasions But right now this is what makes him such a trash offensive player. Just look at his demeanor. Oh, you didn't give me the ball. Because he didn't get the ball, right? That shit is nasty work. Why are we throwing it in there? I hate that. Because the fact that you can't catch it
Starting point is 01:40:36 with a little guy on you, even if they threw it to you, you would probably turn it over. And you're not turning and dunking it anyway. But you're not open either. And you're not open. So the fact that you get this energy because you didn't get the ball you're just about to walk away and it's just like non-threatening and it's just like nasty nasty nasty work but Kyle Anderson is the only player on the floor with any IQ to say let's move without the ball this is the type of shit like I love to do and pick up and pick up everybody thinks that it's just one
Starting point is 01:41:05 on one one on now it's like bro let me screen for you because i'm gonna get open when your guy realizes that he you might be open because i'm screening i'm gonna say shit pickup is more iq than anything man you're only going to 15 so we're not running no plays and we're not running no plays and we're literally out there just freestyling let me be the one to act like i at least know how to play ball. Like, Kyle is the only one out there like, hey, come on, let's move. Let's do something. Yeah, that's a winning play, too.
Starting point is 01:41:30 That's a winning, unselfish play that he just did. When people ask me all the time, like, how did I get on the court in Arizona? How did I get on the court at this? Think about it. If I'm being red-shirted, you're not making no plays for me. Nope. Right? All I'm doing is this. I'm just cutting. I'm just cutting,
Starting point is 01:41:52 diving. Hey, Luke, he overplays me. I'm a backdoor. Who don't want to assist? Hey, man, he keeps sagging. I'm about to zipper cut. Just off. I'm just going to rub off and just look for me. And that's all I did. And I'm about to zipper cut right just off I'm just gonna rub off and just look for me and that's all I did just and I'm averaging fucking 12 14 points just no plays need to be called
Starting point is 01:42:10 just running around back doing the shit out of people yeah but you were taught though like I feel like you know growing up like we were like you know the way you guys were growing up playing basketball like we're actually taught how to play the game, the fundamentals, the IQ. It's different. They just roll the ball out today. Just roll out the ball and just go run and dunk and do some highlights. We actually had to go to camps and actually learn how to play the game of basketball.
Starting point is 01:42:37 The adult league, right? Think about adult league. Playing up. Think about playing up. You go to a gym 6 a.m. And the dudes picked you up There's one thing they don't want to do lose. Yeah, right and one thing they're not gonna do to a young dude Give him the ball. So you better run up you better cut you better get some office rebounds You get the office the rebounds you better pass it back. So it teaches at a young age to move
Starting point is 01:43:02 Yes, I run move get out my way way oh my bad set the screen you sitting there you you the guard playing big man but they're not gonna give you the ball and you have to do all this extra stuff without the ball to make an impact that just naturally taught you how to play the game without the ball being out here on the west coast for as long as i've been out here and realizing that y'all the good players on the west coast the really one the good ones they played the same way we played on the east coast that was really good like we had to play up and we were not the stars when we played up we had to get it how you can get it get it off the glass still play defense you screen and pop hit that open shot young fella okay we're gonna pick you up next game okay you're not gonna be the first one we pick when you walk in the gym
Starting point is 01:43:45 Right, but you might be add-on. All right, we need another one. Come on She hell yeah, let me let me earn my state. So when you look at the game now The difference between how I assess the game now is talent versus skills Skills is the fundamental of the game the IQ of the game talent is you can walk on the floor and you can be good You can be athletic, you know, you can be entertaining but motherfucker is dumb as a brick yeah like you i can't pick you on my team bro just because you're athletic and you can dunk because when i need you to do little shit you have no clue how to do it and what made me valuable in la playing pickup out here is because i could pick five of the guys who no one would pick and we would go out there and run the table seven
Starting point is 01:44:26 straight games we winning we winning b them niggas is mad like hey big mccann's in here talking crazy because we won every and i might not need i might not even be out there getting buckets like that but i'm talking so much shit like he must be killing nah nigga we winning i got a little horse i got a little like me next time little bob Bobby Brown and all my little young niggas that know how to play. Marcus Williams. Man, we out there hooping. That's like those UCLA runs, though. That's how you...
Starting point is 01:44:54 Take a moment. I'm in the UCLA. Oh, yeah. I'm on stage. You playing with all-stars on that court. You knock down open shots. You think you getting the ball. What's so funny is Magic Johnson at UCLA is Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 01:45:05 He ain't passing it unless you wide open. So think about to get the ball from Magic. You really had to run the lane. Yep. You had to do some back. Like, you really had to. Because he is the point guard. See, everyone plays like they are the point guard.
Starting point is 01:45:21 And I tell point guards, listen, if you're the main ball handler in your game train like a shooting guard in the summer coming off down picks coming off screens train like that so you have it in you yep you have another element in you so when you get a point guard that's probably better than you you learned how to be a shooting guard so they can't take you off the court. They can't take you off the court. That's cool. You can put Kyrie, you can put Curry with any other guard because they know how to play without the ball still. Facts. That's what makes them great.
Starting point is 01:45:59 Curry having the ball, doing all this, that doesn't make him great. What makes him great is when he don't have the ball, he knows how to go get it. Yep. And they can play even down to the three-man, too, because they can post up. They know how to post. Like, when you're a guard, they can play point guard, shooting guard, and you can post up. Like a booker, a booker can play all three levels. So it's like it makes him that much more dangerous when you know, I know know the three-man spot I know the two-man spot I know the one
Starting point is 01:46:28 man spot and I do kind of know the fucking four-man spot I know pick and pop because they usually since I got bigger when I go on the court now it's like you big man you play the forward I'm cool with that I'll post up these I'll post up the big that I know how to read and pop and move and be the utility guy I know how to do all of those shits. I don't need to be the star nigga Well, that's what a lot of fours or fives don't really let me know what you about to go hooping. Yeah. Yeah, you go screen. Yeah You write the fuck up every fucking position Listen, maybe at 9 o'clock. They'd be playing at a
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Starting point is 01:47:48 So Ant added to his legacy in the second round after telling the Nuggets locker room attendant, see you game seven after the Wolves went down 3-2. So on Tuesday night, he had a similar prediction for Cowboy star Micah Parsons. Tell somebody the whole idea of seeing him for game six. Where does that confidence come from? What am I supposed to say? I'm supposed to say we're going to lose game five. No, I'm not going to never say that.
Starting point is 01:48:08 Michael Parsons, you know, he was rocking the 81s and I told him he wears size 14. I'll bring back some nice shoes for game six.
Starting point is 01:48:14 That's what I told him. You can talk about the like this dude. The internet's saying the Dallas Mavericks lost because the Dallas Cowboys was in the building. That may be.
Starting point is 01:48:24 We have Kenyon here tomorrow. We will see if we can confirm that. But what do the Wolves need to do in game five to make sure and fulfill this promise to Michael Parsons to bring him some shoes in Dallas for game six of the Western Conference final? Just play solid basketball, man.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Just make easier plays. Understand like the things you're doing is not totally winning basketball. This is not the last series. You've got to change just a couple things here and there. You know, Rudy ducking in, that should be Cat ducking in. When you really have an advantage, use it.
Starting point is 01:49:04 Milk, it's okay to milk some plays. Find a hot hand. When you really have an advantage, use it. Milk. It's okay to milk some plays. Find the hot hand. There was a couple times I was yelling at Ant-Man because Cat was going. And I'm like, hurry up and keep getting him the ball before he fouls out. Because he looked like he was ready to go. I was saying the same thing. Hey, man, if he hit three, four shots, keep giving it to him. Because he's about to foul the fucking out.
Starting point is 01:49:20 You know what I'm saying. I mean, man. I'm saying. The one with the elbow out. Oh, going over the back. You bitch, you can't jump. What are you doing? And that's what Edmund said in the press conference.
Starting point is 01:49:33 Like, man, if we can get fucking, Cat, stop fucking fouling. He's been saying that. Yo, you can't jump, dog. Get your ass. Go back. You the only big man. I'm like, man, just get back on defense, man.
Starting point is 01:49:45 You ain't going to get no offensive rebound, dog. One game you're having a good game, you foul the fuck out. Because you're not disciplined enough as a player to understand that my team needs me in the game not to make stupid fucking plays. I think you're doing it on purpose, bro. There's no way. Nobody's that's having a good game that's a star just fouls out. You're not fouling out. You're not fouls out like you're not fouling out Bowling out like that
Starting point is 01:50:09 Luka fouls out goddammit he meant to foul because ain't no way if you can get three fouls on Luka that'd be impressive acts That man know not come on you like this because he knows not to foul defense Listen, he is not in this this game to be a lockdown defender and if he's trying to be a lockdown defender he is compromising 34 nine and nine i don't give a fuck who he stops 34 nine and nine is way more important than luca trying to be a defensive player and trying to get five to six out No, that's not what we need from you. You get three. I'm like we hope they get relaxed Relax, don't get fucking this. Listen, I'll give fucking is two minutes in the fourth quarter
Starting point is 01:50:55 Relax relax. We might have to go to double triple overtime. Just relax on the files, bro Relax I'm comfortable with you got one in the fourth quarter That's the Luca. I know that's the Luca I need right because we the way he plays offense he could We can get to office or three offensive fouls offensively. Yes, right So I think he got I think if he had three last night, one or two of them. It was offensive. Yeah, you got to be careful, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:29 Be careful. Relax. Coach got to be mindful, too, though. We were at four yesterday. Yeah, four. Yeah. Coach has to be like, it was in the third quarter. He had three in the third.
Starting point is 01:51:42 No, he had three in the second. No, they had three in the second. Three of them, I'm like, wait. Hey, three in the third. No, he had three in the second. No, they had three in the second. Three of them, I'm like, wait, and you pull them out. Because I'm like, because at the beginning of the fourth, you get an early foul, you're going to have to take them out. And he probably wasn't going to take them out, isn't he? He didn't. He kept his ass in, and he got his fifth one in the third.
Starting point is 01:51:58 Midway through the third. And then put him in at the nine-minute mark in the fourth. Yeah, that's why he fouled out. But at least he got seven. He got seven quick ones up, though. That was cool. I'm like, all right, you got him in. So, last question mark in the fourth. Yeah, that's why I found out but easy got seven He got seven quick was up though. That was cool. I'm not you got a man So last question for y'all you talked about the Cowboys being in the building Michael Parsons wearing a Luka jersey with a e once That makes sense they matched trolling not a match play on both side They matter how you gotta pick a side right man. They match the Dallas much Dallas Cowboys. Oh, they match the troll That's nasty. That's why a
Starting point is 01:52:28 Luca Jersey with some Adidas like Lucas Jordan, right? You got a pillow today. No the NBA jerseys Jordan Okay, so where's the Parsons isn't Adidas fan. He's a Venus family. He's a Venus family That's why they lost all day Adidas family. The Cowboys are the mush Do the Adidas a championship shoe. Yes, okay a lot of champions won championships in Adidas, baby J. LeBron go bring your whole Well, I'll see there's a lot of people in Garnett. There's a lot of people Kobe Bryant was Nike Kobe Bryant. No Tim Duncan was Adidas. Yeah, Tim was Tim was Adidas Chausse was Adidas But I don't know if he won championships in is that just did he did he did just
Starting point is 01:53:09 just let you know this I say I've never been in the championship a lot right more than y'all cap I just named we named just like six people dog I mean we just need one Seth Curry you just got one I know I'm four times six sounds like six championships. Huh? You know what I mean? So, yeah, we good, man. You know what I mean? So, Parsons is... I got to give it up to a dude.
Starting point is 01:53:32 The shoes are lighter now. Back in the day, they used to be big-ass boats. They still big-ass boats. Oh, no, I know. The Hardens is baller. The Ants are baller. Them shits are fucking bloated.
Starting point is 01:53:42 I like the Hardens. Them Hardens look heavy. The Hardens are bloated. No, no, no. They light. They light. The Ant-Mans are flat. They look good.
Starting point is 01:53:51 You know what? When you put them shits on, you're like, man, easy. I think all basketball shoes are heavy. I just think it's Dita. Those are actually light. They're not heavy. They're light. They're light.
Starting point is 01:54:00 They're just bloated. They look heavy. They're just bloated. Get a working magic. Get us some shoes. They're just bloated. They're bloated. No, but of magic. Get us some shoes. They just bloated. No, but they used to be like big-ass bows back in the day. So shout-out to Adidas basketball, everything y'all are doing over there.
Starting point is 01:54:11 And we'd like some more shoes in the near future. Alon Parsons comes to the game with the Adidas zone. Baby, you know how to do it. You know how to rock it. So let's keep this moving. Because he can't win a Lucas. I'm going to be watching. I'm going to be watching.
Starting point is 01:54:24 So you buy the Lucas in stores? Nah. I don't think Lucas has a team. Does Lucas have a team? Slovenia. Nah. It's like a Lucas slash Zion Williams slash. We don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:54:37 It ain't out. Basically, you can't buy them shits. I don't know what it is. They're trash anyway. I think all them shits are trash. Anything that's not original Michael Jordan is trash And that's the only problem. That's the only problem with the joy brand right if you lose do you lose the Michael himself man, like if Mike Wayne where I'm just like
Starting point is 01:54:54 Like I mean if I saw you got a five-time with a five-time with Mike I'm like you gonna have to wear my shoe like, not yours. Around. Yeah, yeah. No, bro. You got to wear my shoe around. No, bro. I need to see you in my shoe, Mike. You got to see my shoe. I need to see. Because this is your logo, goddammit. The only Mike CB out there is a Travis Scott's.
Starting point is 01:55:13 That's the only thing you can catch Mike. Mike, you wear the Travis Scott's? Yeah. I think so, yeah. That's about it. Like, that's about it. Everybody else, move around. So, let's keep it moving.
Starting point is 01:55:24 On Tuesday, we talked about a report that several agents were advising their clients to think twice before signing with the Sixers, the free agency given Joel Embiid's injury history. And Gil, you mentioned that Jimmy Butler would be a great fit to make a return back to the Sixers. So, it's no secret that Jimmy Butler is looking for
Starting point is 01:55:40 a max extension from the Heat. Pat Riley has been on the fence whether they're going to give him that. I believe he comes eligible July 7th, if I'm not mistaken. Well, shortly after you said Jimmy belongs back with the Sixers, Philly Aquarius Keith Pompey dropped a report saying
Starting point is 01:55:55 the Sixers are prepared to give Jimmy Butler a max extension if the Heat end up trading him. So Jimmy Buckets turns 35 in September since joining the Heat in 2019. He's missed a total of 100 regular season game seven playoff games, never played more than 65 games in a season with the Heat, missed 25 games this season, including every game in the first round. But how good would a
Starting point is 01:56:16 Sixers big three of Embiid, Maxie, and Jimmy Butler be in the East? I like it, man. I just, you know, when he was first there He just brought a whole different a because that was Rambo Jimmy to that's when it was allowing the Rambo Ties as headbands and that was a rainbow. That was a rainbow Jimmy. So I like that, uh Those two as a duo so the fact that max is there to you know, you keep a couple more pieces it'd be a great fit. They will be dangerous. Because you got Jimmy Butler attitude with Embiid and Maxie.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Fuck. That's like replacing Tobias Harris with Jimmy Butler. With Jimmy Butler. And we've seen what Jimmy Butler does with mediocre talent. Now he has real, actual MVP dominant big man talent. And you has real, actual MVP
Starting point is 01:57:06 dominant big man talent and you know he don't play that bullshit so he gonna force Embiid to step his shit up. So we've seen what Jimmy does with Jimmy's butlers. Yeah, Jimmy's butlers. Any concern, obviously, Jimmy Turner 35 September with him
Starting point is 01:57:24 being available. Now you have two guys and guys and beat only play 39 games this season. I Think that's the biggest thing injury and you might be healthy enough for them Other than that, I mean they're gonna be fine with him maxi and And then be but it's just if Jimmy's gonna be healthy towards the end It's always something happening. I Don't think Pat Riley. Let lets Jimmy walk without nothing in return. That wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. So I think you give Jimmy what he need and pick up another piece.
Starting point is 01:57:57 So if they lose Jimmy, they can't, I mean, they'll have money, right? He's still under contract. But they'll have money. He said he's just available for extension. So he's extension eligible this offseason. Made it clear that he wants that extension. Pat Riley met with the media a few weeks ago and said we don't know. So Philly's basically saying we'll trade for you and extend you if they don't extend you?
Starting point is 01:58:20 So Jimmy under contract next season making $48 million, close to $49 million. Has a player option summer of 2025. So, in theory. So, they'll give it to Jimmy, but they won't give it to James Harden. Who? Philly. Philly. So, they promised James Harden an extension, didn't give it to him, but they're going to.
Starting point is 01:58:40 But we don't know what that number was. For James? I mean, whatever it was, it was the max. I mean, whatever it is, it's the max. Darryl Murray from the same division. But we don't know what that number was. James? I mean, whatever it was, it was the max. I mean, whatever it is, it's the max. 49-50 is what they're talking about with Jimmy. We don't really know. I mean, whatever the number was, though, you're saying that you're just going to trade Jimmy and just give him the max.
Starting point is 01:58:57 Now, my thing is this. Jimmy hasn't played 65 games since 2018-19. And that was the trade when he was in Minnesota. What about James, too? James, they probably ain't played that many. So basically, Jimmy hasn't played over 65 games since 2016-17 Yeah, so if I'm gonna play him then I mean, yeah, if I'm gonna pay him that money. I Got him beat him
Starting point is 01:59:37 At 35 Maybe give me my guess if he gave me 58 to 60 something games the game I'm fine You're good with that 60 game threshold with him beating maxi, I'm fine. You good with that 60-game threshold? With Embiid and Maxie, I'm fine with that. With Miami, no. Okay. With Miami, but Miami is going to run him to the ground anyway. So he's going to miss games just because fucking they're going to run you to the ground.
Starting point is 02:00:00 So him and Philly playing 58 to 63 games a year you know what you might with those two stars i'm cool i have a rest i'm cool with that yeah as an owner i'm cool with that you think i don't need him playing 82 games now your brother's looking for a two-year maximum extension that valueyear, 113? Two-year, 113. At 35? So that puts him at about 37? I think 38.
Starting point is 02:00:32 38? Put him at 38? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:34 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. So he going to go back after they took Tobias over him?
Starting point is 02:00:39 I'll front load the shit out of it, though. Shit, because they took Tobias over him. Thanks. So now you want to come back? I don't think it's a you want to come back. I mean, no, no, no. I mean,
Starting point is 02:00:52 we want you. Yeah, yeah. Hey, we sorry. Yeah. They sorry, but I'm just saying. Hey, hey, hey, listen. I think Jimmy want to stay though.
Starting point is 02:00:59 I think Jimmy want to stay in Miami because he's created a part of that culture that's there. Like he feels like he's a part of that now. So I don't think he wants to leave. He got to win it. He ain't going to come close to that.
Starting point is 02:01:09 But he's not going to win in Miami. He might as well- Miami's done. It's over, man. I'm sorry, man. That's what I said last year. They need to change that shit. They need to change it all up.
Starting point is 02:01:17 I mean, Pavarotti's number one without- Omega Star? Top 75? That's what we call it, a generational type of talent. It's not like when you talk about three. When you talk about generational people, he's had three of them. His legacy, you can be the next Pat Riley. Well, hold on.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Wait. Relax. Relax. He's had three generational talents. That's all his championships are on. Wait. Relax. Relax. He's had three generational talents. That's all his championships are under. Magic. Magic and Kareem. James, where are we?
Starting point is 02:01:52 I mean, James wasn't a generational talent, but I'm just saying. Squad, you. North Carolina's fine. No, what I'm saying is that Magic and Kareem, you had both of them winning championships, and then you went to try to do something else and it didn't work. And then you had Dwyane Wade. Then you got Shaquille O'Neal. Right?
Starting point is 02:02:10 You won. And then you got rid of them. And then you got LeBron James. And then you won those. Retired. Right? No, you retired. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:18 But you got LeBron James. Right? So when you're talking about the generational, those different makers, that's who your championships have been built off of. You never won championships with teams or wasn't it? So Jimmy is basically the only player that's gotten you. Close to it. Close to it. But to be real, how many teams have won without generational talent?
Starting point is 02:02:40 Steph is not a generational talent. Detroit? Detroit. Steph Curry? It's not a generational. Steph's not a generational.. Detroit? Detroit. Steph Curry? Steph is not a generational. Steph's not a generational. You know what a generational? Wimby is a generational person.
Starting point is 02:02:52 That is a generational talent. Steph became. A great. Generational means you can't mimic it. You can't mimic. You can't mimic. Can't mimic number one. Can't mimic number one pick.
Starting point is 02:03:03 Can you mimic Magic Johnson? johnson six nine point guard with the vision no you can't mimic shaquille o'neal's body you can't mimic fucking um uh lebron james those you can't mimic wimby those are. It only comes once every, right? There's only five or six. Generational is based on like physical traits. Physical traits. Okay. Physical traits is generational.
Starting point is 02:03:34 Like somebody like Giannis is tweaking, right? Like Jokic is not a generational talent. He's just a great basketball player. Kirby was a great basketball player. Facts, bro. You know what I mean? It's different. Like, generational is something that's once every point.
Starting point is 02:03:49 Yeah, yeah. Once every. Like, when it comes, you're like, ah, damn. Sheesh, you got that? And that's it. And he's had three or four of them. Yeah. Facts.
Starting point is 02:03:58 Jack was generational. Tim Duncan was Mr. Fundamental. Fundamental is what took him over the top. He was a great basketball player. Can we ask the chat? Freak of nature. How would they know? The chat know everything. It's called freak of nature.
Starting point is 02:04:14 The freak of nature. He's had the freak of natures. So you would say Steph's shooting makes him a freak of nature? It's called hard working. Absolutely. His shooting is freak of nature. He is not a freak of nature. Like when we said freaking a judge Bo Jackson. What is he? Okay, okay. That's okay. Right? Yes. Okay Deion Sanders is Jerry Rice a feature a generational talent
Starting point is 02:04:38 No, no generator hands. No. I mean, he'll play basketball and then go win a golf tournament. He's a hard worker. That's the difference between like a Michael Jordan. They're generational. Their engines itself is what makes them there. Would you say Kobe was a generational talent? No. He wasn't.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Nope. Hard work. He was a prophet. Did that hard work turn him into a generational talent? Mike Tyson. You're talking about those guys like Mike Tyson, Ali. Serena Williams, not Venus Williams. Yeah, Serena generational. Generational.
Starting point is 02:05:16 She came in as a game changer. Serena's still a dog though. No, for sure. She was first. Yeah, Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods generational. It's just a kid. It's just a freak of you. It's just you got the God's gift. That's what I said.
Starting point is 02:05:36 Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson. Facts. But not Jermaine. Not Jermaine or Tito. Janet. Janet. Maybe not. Janet. Almost. Almost. For the female side.
Starting point is 02:05:54 Okay. Yeah. Like that's what I said. Right now we're talking about what? Wimby. You can say Luka. So you put Luka in there, but you wouldn't put Joker in there. Luka's 16 point guard. I mean You got it And Luka did it when he was 16. He was doing it where he was coming from. Kaelin, EuroLeague MVP
Starting point is 02:06:16 Right now it's on that right now. So you got I mean No, I wouldn't say Luka because he wasn't physically demanding when he came in. It wasn't demanding He had he grow into that right now. He grew into that. No, I wouldn't say Luca because he wasn't physically demanding when he came in. It wasn't demanding. He had to, he grow into that right now. He grew into that. I wouldn't say Luca. He's close. We asked the chat, is Steph Curry generational? 71% said yes, Gil.
Starting point is 02:06:35 This is your chat for yourself. Put it like this. If they, then they can't be Steph Curry. I think they would agree with you. Right? No, what I'm saying is, then you can't tell your kids you can be the next Steph Curry I think they would agree with you right no what I'm saying is then you can't tell your kids you can be the next Steph Curry okay you can't be the next generational player right nobody nobody nobody could do what Michael Jordan did we can analyze it but we can't go out there and mimic it our fadeaway wouldn't look like his fadeaway. The moves, the croc, we couldn't do that.
Starting point is 02:07:07 Same thing with Magic Johnson. We couldn't, everybody couldn't go out there and be a 6'9 point guard sitting there doing little shit like that. We couldn't go out there and be Shaquille O'Neal coming in breaking fucking backboards at 7'1". Right? We could not do it.
Starting point is 02:07:21 We can't go out there and be fucking LeBron James. Fair. Would y'all mean be generational? He could have been. I think so. You drank your feed. That's a good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:31 Y'all means he was different. It's like the difference. You were like, he's different. Yeah, generational. He's different. That's what I said. Even someone like Tom Brady, he wasn't generational. His was all work.
Starting point is 02:07:44 Michael Vick was generational. And then the 20 years after him came. Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson and Cam Newton. Cam Newton, RG3s, them type joints. But even them, Cam Newton would probably be the closest one to Mike Vick because he came in as a 6'5". Think about it.
Starting point is 02:08:01 You can't mimic 6'5", 230. That's running. He's a quarter throwing and running. That's what six five. We never think about it. How do you can't make six five? To 30 running his quarter going in running. That's what I'm saying when we're talking about generating We're taking about somebody you cannot you cannot recreate so healthy Zion generational Yeah Yeah, yeah, we never seen anything like it. Yeah, yeah, even though it was in us It was more a smaller compact guy. Yeah. Yeah Ray Lewis. Yes He goes Lawrence Taylor. Oh, um met Metcalf Dee Dee Dee Dee came in DK make it. Yeah people like My Megatron don't be those are what generational guys look like when you ran the boss and you just be like god damn
Starting point is 02:08:40 Well who built this? Yeah Somebody like what is the quarterback now Mahomes Mahomes that's hard work yeah and he played baseball too but that's those are the hard working guys who just they they're more dedicated to the you know I just like seeing you talk about football we're gonna start doing day cap would you give him all your takes on football? Says about 50 players we got a segment watch them at 12. Why the quarterback got this number We do a science experiment under dark fantasy with our have you do a pick up for players you've never heard of He got it today like 80 80 84 rushing yards and be'd be like, oh, 84 rushing yards. And he'd be like this.
Starting point is 02:09:46 No. He's not doing that. He looks scary in his picture. He ain't running that long. Rashad, would you say your knowledge of the work is generational? Absolutely. Generational knowledge. I was one of a kind. I was a one of a kind
Starting point is 02:10:06 employer you always keep your head on a swivel proven to be a verse your knowledge of all things work related absolutely
Starting point is 02:10:13 we had the workshop in the works but now it's the move around podcast it's coming so so yesterday in the group chat championship Chuck
Starting point is 02:10:19 as you like to be called now Charles come on I can't call you championship Chuck no okay championship Charles
Starting point is 02:10:24 fuck his whole name up. Damn. That's the abbreviation. He's going to be Chuck, man. Yesterday in the group chat, you alerted the crew to a new app called Fly Me Out.
Starting point is 02:10:39 Which, as the name suggests, is a members-only dating site where the word can apply for trips and be selected to be flown out for that trip. So how do you feel about things that you guys were doing now getting technological? Man. Wish this shit was out when I was in the league, bro. I had a budget for that.
Starting point is 02:10:59 I ain't got no budget for it no more. Bro, they're just trying to do anything. They're just doing anything. Can we get... Hold on. I mean, you're still a sex worker if you're on that app. No, in fact, no. Well, you're a sex trafficker if you're using that app. You're using it.
Starting point is 02:11:14 You're working or you're trafficking. This is what I'm like. I thought they didn't need us. Why do they keep making shit for us to spend for some shit? Facts. Where is it? I don't see it. Come on, man.
Starting point is 02:11:28 Miss Independent? Yeah. Wait, who don't need us? You know, when you ask women, sometimes they don't need us. I don't need you. I want you, but I don't need you. I want to be a hoe. Fly me out.
Starting point is 02:11:42 I am a hoe. What you mean? I'm a hoe. No, I'm just talking about fly me out. I will easily be the one. Let's make it fair. Let's make it equal. They can't afford that, Gil. They can't afford to fly you out.
Starting point is 02:11:54 We demand first class. I want to be able to go on a boat party and a woman owns the boat and my broke ass get to come up there and eat up the goddamn food and do all this and then lay down. And you flip out. I don't want to be the dude that got to buy the boat to get show broke ass on it. No.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Because you know work doesn't have a gender. It could be male, female. I mean think about that though. Only time we on the boat is if we own the boat. Other than that. Man, I'm done with them. I'm done with them. I want to be picked up in the Maybach.
Starting point is 02:12:23 My little pocket book, whatever. A little wallet. Come on there. Open the door for me. Open the door for me. I get in. Start demanding shit. Where we going? Where we going? I don't like this restaurant. I want to be able to do that. I'm in my soft guy era. I'm in my soft guy.
Starting point is 02:12:39 That's what they call it. It's called the soft guy era. What time you want me ready? Yeah, you got to pick me up now. Well, you can try to join the app a membership is by invitation or application So applicants undergo review process to ensure they align with our community value the standards. This is according to that already chicken Oh my god, I gotta check out my ass crazy. We're gonna afford to buy the tickets Fly me out. I've already applied Improcess wait so males Male or female good you can get flown up so a female can fly you gonna apply
Starting point is 02:13:18 It's a WNBA players. I want to fly me out now. I don't want y'all to get this get it twisted The ones are y'all is straight. I think I'm just be honest You got to think about the women that got that kind of money. Hey, 56, 65, 40. There ain't going to be no 21-year-olds or no 19-year-olds. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Business decision, kid. Unless they're taking money from one of the NBA players and then flying you out.
Starting point is 02:13:42 No, no, no, no. Vivica Fox. 50-something. Vivica Fox, 50-something. Vivica Fox. She for sure on there. She said she's taking boyfriend applications. You got to be fun.
Starting point is 02:13:54 You got to be able to travel. She said everything. You got to be able to pay for my shopping. Vivica Fox. Vivica Fox. She's 60 now. Wait, wait, no. She said you got to pay for her shopping or she got to pay for yours. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:14:01 You got to pay for her. Yeah, she's 60. At 60. She said, I'm ready. I'm ready. I'm finally ready for a husband boyfriend everything at 60 all the black women said yeah girl cameron samuels said i know cameron samuels somewhere can't make this shit up vivica fox so she's saying this is what you have to be and do this. Yeah. Yeah, basically, you know, she know her her Kelly blueprint value. Yes Blueprint I hope she knows the value of old 60 60 model. Huh? That was on Martin gear So you got a choice which way which way who in his 24? She was
Starting point is 02:14:44 Let me ask 50 cent how much she worth. I'm getting up. Whatever he say, that's what I'm paying. That's what he say. Whatever 50 say she's worth, that's what I'm paying. Well, you got the 2024 electric. You got the 2024 electric. And you got the 1974 Impala Chevy.
Starting point is 02:15:01 Yo, has she seen her competition outside? Has she been outside to see the competition? Does she know what she got to do to keep an attention? Like, yeah. Hey, it's different outside. Hold on. It's different outside. No, it's...
Starting point is 02:15:12 I'm willing to see what she's working with, because she's going to have to do a lot of stuff. So I'm saying, have you seen your competition? Her back hurts. Look, she got the soft gel shoes, the soft gel bottles with... They ain't even got shoestrings. You got a strap- That means she only got about...
Starting point is 02:15:23 Velcro straps. She got the Velcro straps. Stop, stop. We ain't got to prove ourrings. You got a strap. I mean, she only got about Velcro straps. She got the Velcro straps. Stop, stop. We ain't got to prove our point, though, with someone like that age. Because they can't, their knees ain't
Starting point is 02:15:30 working like that. So she only got about two, three minutes before she's just ready to give it up. So we ain't even got to last long. We ain't got to go in there
Starting point is 02:15:37 trying to be a hero. You know what I mean? We don't got to be a hero. You don't need to be a hero. Just go in there 30, 30, 35 seconds. She like, hey, I'm good. You know what I mean? You got a hero. You don't need to be a hero. Just go on there 30, 35 seconds, you're like, hey, I'm good. You know what I mean? You got to pay me. You hungry?
Starting point is 02:15:50 You got to pay me for them 35 seconds. You hungry? You hungry, boo? Combo has to pay me. You got to pay me. That's that age, man. They back me hurt and you can't keep they legs up that long. They catching cramps and shit. Big back. Combo's devolving. Look, a lot of them got to pay.
Starting point is 02:16:06 If you can't pay, you can't play. You got to move around. So a question for you guys, if you don't mind sharing. What's the furthest you've flown some work for a link up? Look, listen, you already know we was tricking back then. But furthest, I need to know. From? Or like me going to them?
Starting point is 02:16:25 Bringing them to wherever you're at shit any international travel yeah of course i mean that's that's us in china yeah i'm gonna say china i just about say china for sure if you ever seen if you ever see chinese girls trust me you gonna have to fly. Yeah, you were gonna sign up. Yeah, sure. All right. Well, what's the shortest distance? Train Amtrak the amtrak John. Yeah, it was quicker business class man. Sure No, but I mean it was their idea. Oh, yeah, we get your flight. It's like it's easier to go from the train here I gotta go to the airport. I gotta do this. I can just get on the train be there quick. Tom's was tough Mm-hmm. I told her to get on the Greyhound.
Starting point is 02:17:09 Oh, she a soldier. She a soldier. She a soldier. She a soldier. Just sleep in the back. Make sure you sleep in the back. I got to commend you on that one. Make sure you don't forget your ticket.
Starting point is 02:17:19 They're going to stamp your school ticket. Make sure you get off. How long was the Greyhound bus ride? The Greyhound, huh? How long was it?hound bus rush? Greyhound, huh? Hello. Hello. There's about 14 14 15 hours and she really wanted that. Hey, man She really wanted to be a soldier It sounds tough times get rough now that shit now you see I'm looking for her now I'm like what you can when you go I need you be huh? Yeah, you know You Were you were you dating now and you mess with either you started looking back at some girls that was like cool
Starting point is 02:17:57 I was too famous Or yes, I was bored. I was no no no no we were bored and we were just getting whatever we wanted. Yeah, we was fully white. It was at a time where you're just like, yo, like, alright. Yeah, that part. Whatever. Yeah. At this point, like... 15 hour Greyhound.
Starting point is 02:18:13 15 hour... Listen, I will pay right now. I'm just... I'm in there bitch alone, chilling. I'm like, be at home by myself, just be sitting around the game. Listen, if you get a girl in a Greyhound right now, that's... Hey, you didn't peep people he said yesterday, right? He was like, yeah, man. I'd be playing what game was uh, what game was he doing it? Huh? Call of Duty? Nah
Starting point is 02:18:34 MLB now you was playing he's a man. Yeah, I've been playing a game and I'd be looking at like damn I've been on again not hours, man. I gotta get up Why you think we keep gonna ask this one would be at home Where's the work at the beast out there they lost in the sauce They lost in the social media. God be bitches hypnotized If I don't take them back in 20 minutes, they done moved on. 20 minutes? 20 minutes. I got the 20 minute time frame.
Starting point is 02:19:10 Oh, you don't want to? Well, thank you. You got to train them. Train them? Yeah. You got to train them. I can't even get them in the building to train them. You got to train them, man.
Starting point is 02:19:18 You can't even get them in the building. I can tell you right now, I am not responding to you until I want to. I do what they do to me. Back in the day, pretend they busy. I still got messages right here. I got a, what you doing? How you doing? Last week.
Starting point is 02:19:35 Last week. Oh, I just seen this. Damn. I'm doing good. How about you? And then when they reply, two more weeks. That's baller. I'm blocked.
Starting point is 02:19:44 You sit and wait. You wait. They got me blocked. You wait. I'm blocked by baller. I'm blocked. You sit and wait. You wait. They got me blocked already. I'm blocked by that time. I'm blocked. Damn. Blocked. What you be saying?
Starting point is 02:19:52 I don't be saying shit. So why they blocking you? I don't know. They ain't getting enough attention. They said you ain't giving me enough attention. I ain't even seen you yet. She on Instagram. Getting attention from the same niggas that she ain't seen yet either.
Starting point is 02:20:04 He a stranger just like me. We both strangers what the fuck but I got the number somehow Scroll this is my block list Jesus Christ You don't you be blocking them what I'm still going Not even I got about I got about 200 blocks She dig up play yo, that's how my Instagram look I just block me. I just a lot of different
Starting point is 02:20:39 I just say my number. I don't want them to have access to it at all Like just a little different never me from a different number. You ever see that many people blocks? Nah, that's killing. I was just scanning the area because you pretty much have every part of me. Every part of LA. I don't care what you say. Multiple LA.
Starting point is 02:20:55 I love when they be like, well, if you ain't got no time for me, blocks. Immediately. I ain't letting you finish your sentence. Blocks. You better get a Google number. Damn. You better get a new Google number I got these girls going Google now. What am I doing? Oh, can you unblock my real number?
Starting point is 02:21:16 From the cash From a cash out before $100 like I ain't really playing these games. I didn't really want the money I just want to know why you blocked me Yeah, I just be telling like look. I don't know. I don't know if you know, but you know, there's Instagram, right? There's Instagram. They charge only like $55 $100. So I don't need to take this kind of attitude. I don't need it I don't need I don't need to take that it is all needed whatever you talking about Instagram girls they need they listen they might got a million followers, but they don't got a thousand dollars in their bank account.
Starting point is 02:21:48 They don't care. They're more happier than you. Don't need your attitude. If she can't pay, she can't stay. You got to go. If she can't pay, she can't lay. And now let's move on to mostly fans.
Starting point is 02:22:05 Presented by Underdog Fantasy. Wow. Another spirited conversation. Before we do. I would hate to be gone. Let's go. See. And this is us sober.
Starting point is 02:22:17 With water. Ice water. We're not even drinking. Like, if we was having this conversation, almost. If they was in here, I'm looking them in the eyes and telling them this shit. You can't pay. You can't stay.
Starting point is 02:22:30 So earlier in the show, you gentlemen were discussing Vivica A. Fox. I said that she was on Martin. She was on an episode of Martin, so everybody in the chat trying to cook me eat shit, but we will move on.
Starting point is 02:22:40 I am in! Damn. Y'all know everything about how to be at work. Shit. In my fucking comment section. Y'all got everything to say, but where did y'all get the game? Somebody said that, yo, Gil, why can't I find WNBA games on TV?
Starting point is 02:22:56 You can't find them on TV. You can't. Get her on ION. What? It's a channel. YouTube TV, too. Thank you. Oh, YouTube.
Starting point is 02:23:04 Oh, so it's YouTube TV? Okay. ES you to oh, so is YouTube TV? Okay ESPN Let me know you know, no, no, no I'll be trying to watch it like, you know I'll be trying to watch the games so I can and I'll be sitting like yo, what are you finding games that man? You didn't say they don't have their own in WNBA app like No dip but there's never no games on my app Huh, you Huh? You got to pay. Leave pass. You got to pay.
Starting point is 02:23:26 Oh, that's not. Oh, so they do have it. Oh, okay. But you can watch all the games. All the games are not on there, though, right? No. No, that's what I said. They got some packages just mixed in.
Starting point is 02:23:36 You got to sit there and just, ugh. Yeah, so Mercury Liberty, CBS Sports Network tonight. CBS, okay. Sports Network, CBS Sports. Oh, CBS Sports. It's just a dream. The Aces play on NBA TV tonight. Okay, so that's a problem, too, that to follow your sport, I have to get 56 memberships.
Starting point is 02:24:00 That's too much. That's too much. Like, the average household, I mean, come on. If I want to watch all the games and like really be a fan of the sport, how many packages, like different app packages I got to be a member to? That makes it harder for the consumer. I'll go on Google and see the stats. Yeah, see, and that's what ends up happening. It's like, okay, I got ESPN and be sitting there like, ah, all right.
Starting point is 02:24:23 So you only get one or two games a week. So we've got a question from underdog user Zedarian. What's going on, guys? Quick question. At this point in the playoffs, what do you guys think is more important to have to a championship team? A dog that you can rely on to go get you a bucket down the stretch of a tough game or a smart
Starting point is 02:24:45 coaching staff who can put players who aren't dogs in great positions to win ball games? Which you guys think is more important? I'm going to go with the coach. A dog can get you a tough bucket or a coach who can put non-dogs in the best position to win. So cats, if you will. I'm going to go with the
Starting point is 02:25:08 bucket getter. And the reason is you're going to need someone when defense gets tough and everybody knows what's going on. Someone who can just generate points out of nowhere. And when you think
Starting point is 02:25:23 about the shots Kyrie made against Golden State, if you really looked at it, that was not part of the offense, right? He just made great plays. Having a great coaching staff is great, but the people on the court executes. All right, so I'm going to go with the guard dog, the dog guard. Brandon, how about yourself? I'm going to go with the coach because the coach is putting the dogs out there there and one of those dogs is going to be one of the bucket getters but i just need the other four guys to know what to do out there and if they're being coached right and they're being
Starting point is 02:25:54 put in the right positions that one dog that i have out there we're not gonna have an issue with mishad how about yourself i'm gonna go with the dog. I don't think there's been a time in history of the game where the non-dogs have went out there and executed the play to win the game down the stretch. You know what I'm saying? Even though, like, you can put them in position, they can still miss the shot because they ain't got the dog. You know what I'm saying? Like, just because you're in the position. Like, a Robert Ory hits game shots, right? Not because the coach put them in those positions because the dogs
Starting point is 02:26:28 Put them into positions Jordan put Paxton in the position Kobe put their fish in the position certain guys put certain guys in positions to hit shots gorgeous Bucking get her done. No, no, no, if you look at all those game winners It was like scramble play humble plays. Yes, we're able play. Yeah, no, no. If you look at all those game winners, it was like scramble plays. Scramble plays. Scramble plays. Big shot run, though. But he hit the big shot, so. But it wasn't because of the coaching. It wasn't because the coach drew up
Starting point is 02:26:51 a play and put the nine dogs. Yeah, so it's not about the nine dogs. Even though it's a good, that's a great question, because I would say both if I could, you know what I'm saying, because they both play a great part, but when you talk about having a dog that go gets a bucket at the end of the game like Luca those two game winners Bong bong that's dog shit. Let me go get that Kyrie
Starting point is 02:27:14 K let me in that left hand curl like you know, I mean, that's Go me that Miami Heat team has proven that you could just put five dogs on the team and go to the front No, he didn't say five dogs. He's at five players Non dogs non-non-non dogs a coach who can put nine dogs in the best position to win non So just I mean so a bunch of any team had a bunch of non dogs when they send me butlers is at all So you take busy you're gonna take Jimmy Butler off. You don't get there And you don't know who the fuck gonna take the shot He can't change now, I'm staying with it. Oh, yeah, he gonna get him he gonna get in the bag Let me give you a little air just in case you try to come out. Just a little air. You okay down there?
Starting point is 02:28:06 We want you to start smelling just yet. Let me out. Let me out. Let me out. We are still waiting for our body bags to hit the arena. But when they do, it'll take the show to another level. But appreciate y'all as always. Plug it in.
Starting point is 02:28:22 Great to hear some high-level basketball talk throughout this show. And appreciate everybody in the chat. Haters, lovers, Rashad, they have some opinions. Yeah, it's all right. On that, go ahead. You can see my shirt. I'll side out a fuck out of y'all all night. But I got the Twitch up.
Starting point is 02:28:41 Got your Twitch in. Tell the people. Challenging them all. Where can they find you on Twitch? The Miracle Master miracle master on Twitch the miracle master miracle master miracles on the game and sticks You know I'm saying I'm sham. I'm Shan got some name man. He got a lot of porn on it. Yeah Right miracle master If you had a porn name, what would it be he got them all got them all Or he was that dude who was like, if you had a porn name,
Starting point is 02:29:06 what would it be? He got them all. He got them all. Nasty Nate. Nasty Nate. Oh, yeah. Give me your fruit cocktail. Make sure you stick around
Starting point is 02:29:17 for an all new episode of Sheet and Tyler coming up after our show. But this has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.
Starting point is 02:29:24 We will see y'all tomorrow.

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