Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To The Worst NBA All Star Game Ever

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To The Worst NBA All Star Game Ever as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew break down last night's terrible NBA All Star game and discuss their favorite ways to improve the game... NBA Superstars used to care about. They also give their takes on NBA Saturday night, reacting to another less than stellar NBA Dunk Contest, Steph vs Sabrina, and the 3 Point Contest. Finally, they react to all the soundbites from NBA Superstars around the weekend including LeBron James mulling an NBA retirement tour, Luka Doncic & Nikola Jokic's bromance and a potential superteam for Victor Wembanyama and Trae Young. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:06:52 Gil's Arena Reacts To NB-AI 0:09:52 High School Stories 0:18:26 Gil's Arena Reacts To Steph vs Sabrina Shootout 0:23:50 Dunk Contest 0:36:48 Gil's Idea To Fix The Dunk Contest 0:51:19 Stephen A Says LeBron Ruined The Dunk Contest 0:55:36 Will Zion or Ja Ever Do The Dunk Contest? 1:08:41 G-League Dunk Contest Winner 1:10:02 Worst All Star Game Ever 1:11:52 Who Shouldnt Have Been An All Star Debate 1:23:12 LeBron James' Retirement Tour 1:39:40 Steph & LeBron Are The Only Players With Nothing To Prove 1:49:59 Charles Barkley Calls KD A Follower 2:05:21 Nets Fire Jacque Vaughn2:19:15 MostlyFans2:26:36 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:26 terms apply. Instacart. Groceries that over-deliver. Welcome back to Gilderina for getting my $100 legacy. We talking about flashing lights, baby. Flashing lights everywhere. They just been saying shit about me. They didn't even fucking know me. This is my school.
Starting point is 00:00:45 This is what I was doing when wasn't nobody looking. Y'all don't know what we're going to practice. We're in the locker room. Age is zero. Change, yeah. Welcome 18 seconds left. Hit the three loss, and then we're taking out a bounce. Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy World. Woo! Woo!
Starting point is 00:01:33 Woo! It was a tough weekend across the board in the basketball world, from the NBA all the way down, high school, rec leagues. Rec leagues. We was all taking Ls. Yeah, I saw that game winner. My heart was broke for y'all. And they were sorry, too.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I mean, no offense, but oh my God, they were so trash. We did everything in our power to lose. When you do, it does. Talking a little high school hoop for those who are unaware but uh you know Gil's son suffered a tough loss at the hands of a game-winning three kid two threes in a row. Damn. Cold-blooded. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy as always we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. We got Kenya Martin back here with us on the couch. What's up, Kenya
Starting point is 00:02:27 Martin? What's up? And back in the arena, two-time champ, Norris Cole. We appreciate you. Appreciate y'all. Post-All-Star weekend, left much to be desired. Adam Silver, we got some things that you need to listen to on this very here program presented by Underdog Fantasy. But here's what's cracking in the arena today. NBA All-Star weekend was a big brick, but how can the league fix the All-Star game and the weekend?
Starting point is 00:02:55 He didn't do that. Scottie Barnes, come on, dog. Come on. LeBron says he's 50-50 on wanting a farewell tour, but wants to end his career with the Lakers. And Charles Barkley said KD is a follower, but is he spitting or hating?
Starting point is 00:03:14 But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app, use promo code GIL. They will match your first deposit up to $100. You could have made some big bread this All-Star weekend with the Pickhams. Shout-out to Sabrina and Escu. Shout-out to Steph Curry.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Both went higher and put some bread in my pocket. You did? I took the higher on both of them. I knew Underdog didn't know what they were doing. She got the record. I don't care if she got to shoot three feet further back. She was still going to hit that number. And shout-out to Steph for doing what Steph does.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And as always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of every show. You drop a good question in the chat with your Underdog Fantasy username. We use that question on the show. We will give you a $50 bonus to your Underdog Fantasy account. If you send us a video at MostlyFansGill at gmail.com and keep it under 30 seconds,
Starting point is 00:03:59 we will give you a $100 bonus to your Underdog Fantasy account if we use it on the show. As always, you don't have to ask us just basketball questions. We are well-versed in all things hoops, culture, and life. So feel free to let it go. And if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts from. All right, so before we discuss the actual All-Star Weekend festivities, we got to talk about a piece of news from the NBA All-Star Tech Summit. AI used to dominate the league in the mid-90s and 2000s, but now a different AI is real time, with the game. So I don't know why you want to watch a Pacers Jazz game as it is, but if you did,
Starting point is 00:05:14 you could watch it in Spider-Man. So like the commissioner mentioned, with the new NBAI, you can use your voice to activate movie mode to make a live game look like your favorite film. After everything that went on this weekend, how do we feel about the NBA introducing this new NBAI technology? Wow. What's up, G? What they call it? What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:05:42 Come on. Now, they have Poodie Tang as an option. If you're going to watch a game, it's Poodie Tang. So you get to watch it on your TV? I think at home you can say, hey, show me this game as whatever. Do you need a special TV to do that? That was my, you took the words right out of my mouth. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I feel like they're going to get some bread about you.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Absolutely. They're going to get some bread about you for it. Man, it's going to be that they're going to do this deal with Apple. You're going to have to have an Apple TV or something. And it's going to be VR set and stuff. Vision goggles. You're going to need a VR. You're going to need something.
Starting point is 00:06:16 It's another money grab. I mean, the concept, I guess, for kids, it'll be. I mean, I think it'll be used by the younger generation that can afford it. Or their parents that can afford it. Or their parents that can afford it, yes. Right. As a basketball player, I want to watch mine color purple. Put my shit in the roots. The roots theme. Like, yeah, that'd be some funny shit.
Starting point is 00:06:40 What? That'd be so funny. Hopefully in true hood fashion there are bootleg versions available. We ain't got the real Spider-Man. We got the bootleg. This shit is baby boy. Now, NBA game is baby boy. They got a whole plantation out there.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Johnny! Dogs on the side. Naturally, some movies will probably not be included. Let me see you pull a menace off. I can tell you that. White folks about to be happier than the motherfucker. We can go back to the old school days, huh? In the hood, they'll have bootleg versions available with the Jameson camera in the theater.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So it brings me to our next question. Good, you already answered some of it. Which movie would you make an NBA game look like, Norris, since you are our guest of honor? I have to say the Avengers. Okay. Yeah, I had to say the Avengers because I think the characters in the NBA are sort of like we reference to them as like Avengers type of people. You know, got your Iron Man, you know, maybe like a LeBron who played 20 years. You got Thanos, you know, like a Zion, you know.
Starting point is 00:07:45 You know. You know? I mean, yeah, Thanos, that's Nick Thanos, yeah, so, yeah, it's different characters that you can put in there, you know, so I would say Avengers. Okay. And that's something that everybody, most people know about. Okay. Yep. K, how about yourself?
Starting point is 00:08:00 Avatar. Oh, that's a good one. Avatar. Gil, you said a good one. Avatar. Gil, you said roots, you said color purple. So, I mean... Like a more, in a more serious conversation. No, no, no, so it gives, it gives, it gives a... It's that quality, it's that, um, like the animation of it.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Is that what it is? I believe it, yeah, it'll replicate whatever the movie you pick. It'll put that in Which is good for like I move and I go like probably back in the day what? the mask or Roger Rabbit just Yeah, like Jim so it'll go from reality to cartoon, you know gives you that little What our cool Batman One R tune, you know, gives you that little... One R... Old Batman. One R...
Starting point is 00:08:46 Producer above the rim and every backboard slap, it just falls off and they fall off. I mean, you know, if you don't like the 80s like I do, you can go back to like Hoos, All Olds, so you can just see... Take it way back. Or a real hoop movie. Like Blue Chips. Blue Chips. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:01 See, I want older than that. I want like them 80 movies, right? Oh, yeah. Because, you know, they had that idea how they look back then and then you put today's players You know in those days in those days just to see the difference Somebody in the chat said Django You are speaking our language. Okay
Starting point is 00:09:19 Absolutely, you don't know you open Pandora's box. Okay, we're going is it that movie shoot him shoot him shoot him up Not it was a movie shoot him up where I don't know that's it was like glory It was like it was like one of those. It's a good movie though Smoking aces baby, okay. Okay. It's like one of those types. Okay. He was losing this for a second They're clipping it off and making a meme as we speak. At one point I was trying to buy one of them At 50 she had cross cross With the cow. Somebody tried to You should have came to me back then. My homies had to talk me out of it. He was like listen
Starting point is 00:10:00 Why why would you buy that? Like was at the store in Dallas like right out, it was in Fort Worth with the gun store. I was like, that one. That one, right? It was like, why? I said, because it's in here. Like, where else am I going to see one of these at to buy it? Should have came on to me.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Somebody in the chat said Juice. I actually watched Juice this weekend. It was a great movie when I was a kid, but I really watched it as an adult. Not a good movie. But Juice, not a good movie. Not a good movie. You ain't feeling it? It did not add up.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Yeah? It did not add up. But that was so funny, and that's... So what part didn't add up? So, okay. Spent the day skipping school, doing some fun activities. He goes in to buy the cigarettes, sees his boy who robs the spot. They later find out that he got smoked by the NYPD.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And then they have the brilliant idea. Oh, let's go rob the local liquor store. Just didn't make sense to me. Well, there are men who could get him out the hood. Great DJ. We're going to make you fuck up your DJ competition so we could go rob this liquor store for $100. Yeah, life lessons. Instead of putting and investing that into you. We already installed all the records for you to get your mix right every day because
Starting point is 00:11:09 It's life lessons right decisions that you make Mm-hmm. You got somebody that's about to do something positive To maybe make it out and they just put all bullshit. I'm always pulls you back in. Okay I that I'm saying that's the hood see you ain't grow up in a see that's when you Move from the projects like you understand shit like I'm just pushing my man Who's the crab crabs in the bar barrel syndrome? I understand but like I understand it right but like yourself if I know you're gonna be a number one overall pick I ain't gonna be like came before your big game. Let's go rob the liquor store
Starting point is 00:11:54 I'm don't many athletes. I've Left fair like when I do a little rat shit Right guys that was way better at basketball that was football bait like dudes dudes that could have been first round picking baseball come out of high school, dude. I grew up around great athletes. Bad decision. You know how many of us made it out? Can't you imagine? Like far as professional athletes, like two.
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'm going to say one or two. Okay. Who is, you and who is- Kobe Reinhart played for the Arizona Cardinals, went to SMU in Dallas. We grew up together. We all grew up playing sports together. He played football. But not many other... That was... Dude. So who was the best street dude that you knew that should have went pro?
Starting point is 00:12:40 We all know somebody... Who could have made it. Yeah, you grew up in the hood too. Like street dude or just the hood of Sherman Oaks and Van Nuys? It was rough. It was rough in the early 90s, Gil. We lived rough. The roughest motherfucker I knew back then was probably, what, Ray J?
Starting point is 00:12:59 I'm trying to, Tia Tamira? All right, it is President's Day, ladies and gentlemen. I'm just saying, I'm like, that's the fucking people I went to school with. You went to school with Tia Tamira? Yeah. Okay. What's wrong with that? Milliken, or the fucking Raiders. You didn't hear what I said the other day.
Starting point is 00:13:20 The conversation we had the other day about mothers who grew up in houses out here and wanted to be gang members. That's only out here, bro. They only have one bathroom in the house. Hey, that's Like we all grew up like you your pops in it So you you definitely excluded from this comes a lot of kids. Can you a lot of kids don't matter though The bread was not as flowing as try the children whatever boy. I have to do hand-me-downs. Oh course I have to do hand-me-downs. Oh, of course That was by choice, okay, yeah, I was I was not older brothers. I was very free I used to rob older brother
Starting point is 00:13:53 Like I said by choice my choice. We never wore another dude. Oh you went to school with clothes No, I don't do that. You never so it until you Don't take him back Especially this one other day in the mid-towel still came we are as a potato boy No, they all y'all didn't go to the public schools. I'm gonna play the public schools. Yeah That was the shit Hmm, but you was with 10 to marry me. They went to public school. Yeah, the public school out here is called safe. Oh. Out this way.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Like, Trevino's Elementary. Out this way. All the Jackson kids. You go... Yeah. All the Jackson kids. You go southeast from here. The auxiliary Jackson.
Starting point is 00:14:34 The auxiliary Jackson. Okay, okay. Hey, southeast from here, not so much. But, well, he would've... They need to go to the public school in the Midwest, man. Privilege and privilege. Damn it, every reality TV star and all them. That's my heart.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I didn't choose my life, Kenyon. I understand you did, though. I wish my daddy would have been in the NBA growing up. Trust me. They were not getting bread like that back then, though. Hey, anything was bad boy My mama did great Hey, man, Jack
Starting point is 00:15:13 Did we have houses out here kids because that was the school that could have made it to be like Ken said The streets got him, you know, well my pops didn't let me be on the streets But like I went to school with all of them public public school. You saw everything. You saw weed, guns, all that in school. Listen, don't get me wrong, man. Don't get me wrong. I got teammates that had ankle monitors on. Oh, yeah. Low back home. I mean, we had a teammate that got shot. I mean, I wasn't on the team, but he got shot. Oh, I was on JV. I wasn't playing, though. But he got shot before the game.
Starting point is 00:15:44 What? Yeah, he got shot before I was on JV. I wasn't playing though, but he got shot before the game Yeah, he got shot for games still played Now but so look we did have some unwanted guests Back then it was uh, there was a bus in them. So it was busting all the LA kids Oh, they're doing to this day to the valley. They do it to this day. It was it did get a little rough Who is who is cuz we always heard the story about Super Crip. I see a couple of these little motherfuckers over at Sierra Canyon, like, you definitely ain't grew up around here. They bust them in, but, you know, it was, they got their ass, I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Back then, they was getting their ass whooped. Because whatever they was claiming, it was only one or two of them, right? And then, most likely, their parents didn't have cars for the whole hood to drive this way. So unfortunately, they was getting picked on. Now, think about that. We beating on real family gang members, right? What you think that did to the Valley kids? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:37 We thought we was like, really? That? Right? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, we thought we was really that. Just beat up, dude. You a whole gangbanger, but it's only one right
Starting point is 00:16:46 It's only one just one And then yeah, let me tell you how that story goes other way Where I end up going to high school that and graduating from wasn't in my neighborhood I had to catch two buses and get to where I graduated from right? So we playing a game my senior Dudes that's in Oak Cliff, but it's in a different part Oakland's not grew up But everybody come my people come to the game. I grew up in Oak Cliff. I Went to school at Bryan Adams. It's a bunch of like kids like y'all they grew around the school grew up in houses Right on my team and on the JV. They don't know no better
Starting point is 00:17:23 They in the stands talking shit. Ooh. While we playing. While the varsity playing. The JV, they in the stands. They're thot, thot, thot, thot, thot. The game is over and holy hell breaks out. They chase four of these dudes down the longest road.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Loop 12 is in Dallas. It's probably the longest road in Dallas. It goes right around the whole city. It changed the name, but it wraps around the whole city. They chase these niggas, listen, they say they ran to the school. This is miles, like 12 miles, dawg. They say they ran for like six, look, they didn't know how far they was chasing them. See that's when you grow up in a certain area, you don't know. Better watch your mouth. Better watch your mouth.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yeah, yeah. Better watch your mouth. And what they say in Players Club, keep your hands on your head and watch your tone. We didn't have to worry about that. They couldn't bust here. Yeah, they couldn't all bust here. A lot of traffic. We didn't have HOV lanes back then.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Yeah, I'm a motherfucker. But let's talk a little bit about All-Star weekend. It left much to be desired. Started Friday during the Rising Stars game when Wimby's team got upset by the G League squad in the first round. Shout out to G League Ignite. I'm sure that's not the plans the NBA had.
Starting point is 00:18:39 We wanted as much Wimby as possible. Saturday was at least decent. Dame winning the three-point shootout. Zero. Sabrina Ionescu and Steph Curry going head. Dane went in the three-point shootout. Zero. Sabrina Ionescu and Steph Curry going head-to-head in a three-point competition. It's Alexa to it. Look similar to a competition that we do here on Gills Arena,
Starting point is 00:18:55 known as the Gills Shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop. Whoop, whoop. Sabrina put up a. That's a weird turnaround she did right there. Going to the baseline side. She said she liked to shoot from the left. Oh, she liked that she was from the left? Yeah, she said
Starting point is 00:19:09 she liked to shoot from the left. So Sabrina put up 26 in the first round, which would have been good enough to make the finals in Ty Dames' three-point shootout championship score. But then Steph came through. Lose to no chicks! Steph came through, put up 29. Going hard on the money ball, right?
Starting point is 00:19:32 Going hard on them, baby. Yeah. A little dance to boot. So Steph put up a Steph Riliff 29 piece, take home the championship belt, surround the couch. What do we think about that Steph burst Sabrina three-point shootout? Probably the most intense thing the whole weekend Is that good or bad? That's great. Okay. I mean
Starting point is 00:19:58 That is great. I mean to be honest I don't know if they haven't realized upper management and people who sit in offices all day. Usually anything that has to do with one-on-one competition is usually taken seriously. Absolutely. Pride, your pride individually is on the line. So there was no chance Steph was going to lose, and there was no chance that Sabrina wasn't going to come out there and do what she did. It's just whoever's the better shooter. Salute to Steph, too. gonna lose and there was no chance that Sabrina wasn't gonna come out there and do what she did. Yeah. It's just whoever's the better shooter.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Salute to Steph too. Seems like a no-win situation for him, right? Expected to win, but if he would've got smacked, he would've got packed up for all eternity. Shout out to Sabrina. Shot with the WNBA ball, but shot from the NBA three-point line. She shot from the NBA? Yeah, she shot. Yeah, she did.
Starting point is 00:20:43 No excuses. She wouldn wanted just come out and shout out Kenny Smith I mean a lot of opinions this weekend when he's I mean 26 from the NBA yeah ooh ooh trying to hit at something you somebody that one-on-one anytime one-on-one is taken serious what you trying to hit at I mean that's his life right I'll be my life is anytime it's just one-on-one with someone, your skill is... Just your skill is required,
Starting point is 00:21:09 then, you know, that person always takes it serious. Like, you're not going to be out there embarrassing yourself. So she wasn't going to come out here, hit 15. He wasn't going to come out here and hit under 20, so...
Starting point is 00:21:19 So basically what you're saying is we need to add a... They wouldn't go get 12. They wasn't going to get 12. Oh, okay. Right, all right. What you're saying is we need to add they wouldn't go get 12. No, it's gonna get 12. Okay, right You're gonna shoot out inside Joe I did not see that hell maker coming boy I ought to shut the fuck up on that one. I ought to set myself up. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 So Gil, you're a forward thinker, man of the people. Gil, you got me. You got me. Gil, forward thinking. $35 cap on AIDS back in the day. The impact it had on SoCal. But you also had this idea a few years ago. I think we have a text conversation that you sent over. You said, I think the WNBA should be allowed to compete in the NBA three-point
Starting point is 00:22:11 contest and skills challenge. Now, that would be exciting. Y'all said, now if a female wins or becomes runner-up, she's God. Imagine Sue Bird almost beats Curry or beats Curry. This was a couple years ago. 2021. Before she retired. So that lets you know That is validated. Okay, but uh was this a pivotal moment for the women's game? I think they did a great job really embracing WNBA giving them a lot of love this weekend. I think so
Starting point is 00:22:38 They've been asking to get more showcase Get paid more and this is a way to do that in order to get more showcase, get paid more, and this is a way to do that. In order to get paid more, you have to have something that's entertaining that the people want to watch and they have to know who you are. And so Sabrina, she held it down for the ladies. And she didn't make no excuses. She shot with her ball, but she shot from the men's line. So I think it's more of appreciation. Casual fans can now appreciate some of the women's players and it shows that they have some talent and maybe they'll want to go and watch. And obviously,
Starting point is 00:23:09 the more eyeballs that go watch them play, the more demand they have to be able to possibly make more money so they don't have to always go overseas and then come and play here. They can just play more season. For sure. So there's been some talk, there will be a rematch. Should they do the rematch at WNBA All-star weekend would that be a good look and should they expand it out? That would be a good draw for them Then they should do it WNBA weekend Summer Yeah, they got the Olympics
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yeah, not but I think it definitely should be, if they're going to do a rematch, if Steph is available to do it, then do it during that weekend because they... I didn't mean to laugh, but Cheryl said the WNBA is like on a random Wednesday. Thursday. Before I knew it, I laughed. But it's unfortunate, right? But so to draw more attention to it, then they should do something like that. Vegas last year expanded it out.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I believe it's in Phoenix this summer. So I think they're making memories. Having a good city. Having a good city. Good cities matter. More advertising and doing something like that, I think. But moving forward, I think people are making too much of a thing that she shot from the male line. She's a shooter, so I think she's not tripping on that. She's not tripping on that because where she's working on her game from, honestly,
Starting point is 00:24:33 like, they line is close, but she's a shooter. And that's the thing with women's basketball. They consider themselves hoopers. They don't want a disadvantage. And that's what, so she was going to do that no matter what. Like, she's going to I'm going to shoot it from wherever. I think they need to bring more WNBA players to it. And have it like, if it's four NBA
Starting point is 00:24:58 to top four or whatever, then you have the top four WNBA shooters and make it a competition thing or make it, whoever make it to the finals. Like, I think you should have it a competition. They're going to make it, whoever make it to the finals, like, I think it's having a real, like, like, cool-ass kind of a situation. Or have one, the male champion play against the female champion. But see, like, but the only reason,
Starting point is 00:25:16 the only thing I don't like about this one was that Steph couldn't compete in the NBA three-point contest. That's the only thing I didn't like about it. So they need they need to figure out something he could have I mean he could he could have if anybody could have done it He could have done it. He's like what? like I think that it should be some type of The because it's one round, two rounds, right? Top four, put them in, make the rounds a little bit longer, make it 12.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Right now we have what? Four? No, eight. Eight shooters, make it 12 shooters, and four comes from the WNBA. If the league was smart, they would. And then put in actual shooters, like actual real shooters. Like people who get... Fuck the percentage. That's...
Starting point is 00:26:08 You don't know who... I mean, Luke Walton was leading the league in three-point percentage at one point. You take one or two... Arizona Brethren. But I'm just saying, like, that is not an NBA three-point shooter. Okay. Like, you have to really dissect what is an NBA three-point shooter and have real shooters in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:26:24 That is the real problem. dissect what is an NBA three-point shooter and have real shooters in the NBA. That is the real problem. Because there's some guys that they're fourth-quarter shooters on the pressure shooters. That doesn't translate to the three-point contest. So have eight real ones. No matter what the percentage is, you know these guys are actually NBA shooters. And then you add the second know, the second round of WNBA. So if the league was smart, they would do an open trial,
Starting point is 00:26:48 let anybody come from all across the country to participate, to make it to the final shootout. We don't discriminate based on gender. Whoever put the best scores up and give away a grand prize. I feel like somewhere in the $100,000 range. I think I heard that somewhere before. All right, just making sure.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Gil's shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy. We've been heard that somewhere. Okay. All right, just make sure Gil shoot I'll be there by the dog fantasy, you know But no matter how much the the NBA supports the WNBA the WNBA still needs to fix their internal problem Doesn't always be this internal problem, right? hardcap Right a hard cap actually hurts the league. The reason is that means it's fair. It's fair, right? You know? Talon ain't fair.
Starting point is 00:27:31 So the billionaires have to play on the same field as a millionaire, right? You need a billionaire to do what he does best, bully. Use his money, bully the field, right? Overpay players, which means now the millionaires have to go out and get different capital, right? The competitor, they gotta sell their business, and they have to sell their business to somebody who's richer than them, right? And then now you let money fight money,
Starting point is 00:27:57 and then that's what enhances everything. As long as there's a hard cap, a billionaire's handicapped from bullying. So if he's handicapped from bullying, that means the millionaire is surviving. If a millionaire is surviving, that means your product is shit. That's not, yeah, that's. Right? From there is the top five biggest names in sports or women's sports and who right now with three of them are in
Starting point is 00:28:26 college maybe two of them in college mm-hmm that's a problem that's a problem there's nobody in college basketball that was ever bigger than any NBA name now you can say Zion but he still was he wouldn't crack top five and yeah he wasn't Ron Katie them at that time so the fact that you do have two three girls names that are bigger than WNBA names. That's your problem That's your money. Your money is sitting here college Yeah, it's sitting in comics and then there was the bad news word Paige Buckner said I'm coming back to school That's a good look for you guys making more money though and I like it
Starting point is 00:29:03 You're the first pick. The first pick. The first pick in the draft is Indiana, right? Yep. Who they going to pick? Caleb Clark. I'm going to have to go. Bad for your business. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Bad for your business. You have the biggest name going to Indiana? Ooh, Lord Jesus. Marketing is about to go out the roof. Uh-huh. How many shoe deals you she gonna get in Indiana? There's a reason Sabrina is fucking the face of the NBA. What city is she in again?
Starting point is 00:29:33 New York. New York City. Boss. Them L.A. girls? Juju. Nah, them L.A., them Sparks girls, huh? What are they doing, TV now? They all on TV? They all doing to yes
Starting point is 00:29:47 That matters So I don't know how you want to rig it for LA or Chicago whoever to get the number one pick or you I mean don't know don't know no sports have the second pick Parks have the number two pick in the WB address Like if I'm if I'm trade up no if I'm let's see who's who's supposed to be the number two pick this year probably Angel Reese but no no no no no like if I'm if she gonna be a la spot yeah but that's the picture she's gonna be a la spark even though she's not like
Starting point is 00:30:23 I don't know where she is but they have so many picks right she's going to be at LA Smart even though she's not, like, I don't know where she is, but they have so many picks, right? Two, they got like two, three, five or some shit like that, right? She will be picked by, they're going to want, they want to want to sell that. Clark's supposed to be here. This is where you want to put that product here. That product,
Starting point is 00:30:39 she the female Steph Curry, I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. You still want this small market that don't do nothing for your game. She's the one. She I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. You used to want her in this small market that don't do nothing for your game. Not at all. She's the one. Well, we will see. She is entertaining to watch. No, no, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:30:50 She will bring the eyeballs to the TV for sure. For sure. For sure. That's what I'm saying. I know that Tamika Katz was one of the baddest WNBA players ever. And where was she at? Indianapolis. Indiana, right?
Starting point is 00:31:01 Yeah. Shit, nobody. All right. I mean, you should learn from the NBA. That team is having a hard fucking time trying to get people to see who their players are. But what do we know? What do we know? We're just viewers.
Starting point is 00:31:18 We're just viewers. We're just viewers. Gillsburg is the center of our underdog fantasy. So let's talk about the dunk contest, because we have to, because it happened. It had a little hype surrounding it with Mack McClung defending his title, Jalen Brown becoming the first all-star to enter the competition since 2017. Judges offered a mixture of hate and confusion with some questionable scores on several dunks.
Starting point is 00:31:41 So Mack McClung did this with his first dunk. It was his second attempt, but on his first dunk. So, Mack McClung did this with his first dunk. It was his second attempt, but on his first dunk. Came through. That's a 10. That's a 50, by the way. I am shocked.
Starting point is 00:31:54 They did a dunk. He did a dunk. And if he didn't miss the first time, I would have thought it was him. Like, he fumbled the ball,
Starting point is 00:31:58 but obviously intended to do that. Yeah. That's a 50 dunk. What y'all looking funny for? Didn't get a 50. You're not giving another 50? Who's that one? Who's that older gentleman a 50 don't try looking funny for didn't get a fit. You're not giving that 50 Who's that one? Who's that older gentleman?
Starting point is 00:32:10 School NBA understand what we come from 80s ABA he was the one the ABA you see why they might have you they be doing shit like that Why they still won? What is the why is still judge duck hunters? Why these old dudes still judging the cunt dunk? Connect the game, Gilda, connect the game. Cool. Old and new.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Man, highlight him, but don't let him judge, because he don't even know what he saw. Did you see what he just did? Bruh, dunk. That's a 50 dunk right there. They should be able to replay it so they can see. Replay it. Replay it before you write down the shit you see like like see all right now judges y'all seen everything replays Yeah, so the judges actually do cuz I was wondering but they already they already look down looking up some time
Starting point is 00:32:56 They don't look up on the jumbotron. They'll be like they should get it right on their joint Yeah, they should be looking I was watching that I was having that same thought watching it It's like yeah, you can't see what they're really doing in real time. So let me see it real time, then slow-mo, back and forth. It's like, I'll take it out of the judges' hands
Starting point is 00:33:13 because obviously they done been fucking up for years now. Right? Put it in the fans' hands. This should be something that the fans vote for. Because, I mean, you can't do no regular-ass windmill and really you're going to get a 50 out of the fans. Right?
Starting point is 00:33:27 So I would put, the dunk contest should be in the fans' hands. I don't mind having judges, but just make sure the judges is in tune with what's going on. A guy a little bit out, you know. What is wrong with consistently
Starting point is 00:33:40 having guys that's won the motherfucking judge the dunk contest? What is the issue here? Why is this a fucking thing all the time? Like every year somebody up there that shouldn't be judging drug that ain't never dumped before Dude, let's just call it like having people up there. Never touched the rim before. Yeah, why are you judging the dunk contest? Are you dunked in the 70s? Oh, well do like Cuz they forced you to go
Starting point is 00:34:09 So there's been enough winners from the year fucking ninth, but 2000 yeah Enough winners from mm-hmm. Yeah, 24 fucking years You said it right. Forced. You can't force no old... No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying they forced it back then.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Back then it was forced. So when people talk about all these elite dunkers competing, they were forced to participate. What's wrong with getting guys that they have Fred Jones that he judged? He can judge.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Why not have... They tried to have people not have five guys up there that's wanted? That play for the Pacers or... Because you're bringing them there anyway. You're bringing them to All-Star. They're coming anyway. A lot of guys, they're going anyway. This is just like a dunk. That makes too much sense.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Too much sense, right? My bad. I didn't mean to make sense on this Monday a dunker cuz one a dunker knows How hard this dunk will be right versus someone who just watching like oh, yeah And I can appreciate Chris. It wouldn't win. It don't look like Dominique Wilkins one did That's what you get my brother stop let so you mean to tell me Zach Levine, Aaron Gordon, Derrick Jones, like the dudes can't, like, I feel like they would be available.
Starting point is 00:35:33 Even the guy, he's playing right now. He still can judge. All three of them. That was nice. That was, yes. Shit, I wish I could do that. Yeah, I ain't never seen that one. Man.
Starting point is 00:35:42 But it's like, so, or guys that's been out of the league for a few years. You know how bad it is? You know you did a bad job after the dunk, all the NBA players when they look at the score, all the ones on the sidelines, like, aw. Like, what is that? No, when they go crazy for the dunk and then they look and they see it's a 47, a 48, like. There was a 46 given out at one point. It was, left some people scratching their head, but we also had Jake and Toppin who did this
Starting point is 00:36:12 Hi one of the more egregious snubs of the Wow Brother Obie even drew ski extremely impressed by There's no... Okay. Go ahead. That's an elite dunk right there. Hmm? That's a what? That's a solid dunk
Starting point is 00:36:31 right there. Are we penalizing or not? I... Like that's... I don't know what they are, but... That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Are you penalizing or not? Because if you say you're not and then that happens and then it looks like he's been penalized, that's a problem. And then if you're going to not and then that happens and then it looks like he's been penalized that's a problem and then if you're going to penalize there's no time right no time fuck it what the fuck is the time for because it don't matter if he gets to dunk off you're gonna fuck him up anyway okay you didn't think that was deserving of a 50 with that yeah for him no i'm Yeah For him. No, I'm just I'm looking at guys. That's
Starting point is 00:37:08 Been in dunk contest, right? I'm judging the history of it like real live don't like that like fingertip joy He made it but still mm-hmm Like now there's a dunk contest like and I'm talking like the guys who like Vince wasn't barely throwing that bitch in Jason Richardson wasn't barely throwing that bitch in Desmond Mason wasn't barely Trace I'm a great he wasn't barely thought even though he didn't win like they weren't barely making dunks is what I'm saying Mike that's a fingertip duck like That's what say that you trying and warm must be. Oh shit. I did it Right me mother jump so hot Hermonawooden barely dunking the ball facts fuck even spoiled web wasn't barely dunking the ball. Mm-hmm at 5 7
Starting point is 00:38:04 It's all I'm the history of it is Wood Webb wasn't barely dunking the ball at 5'7". The history of it is, the kid Matt McClung, like, he made that mother, he meant a couple of them joints. I was like, oh, there was a little power behind that one. Even though he ain't got no NBA legs yet, but I give him credit for what he's doing, he being creative in his... That's his element. That's his element.
Starting point is 00:38:25 That's his element. But some of his other shit I'm seeing, like, no, I'm not impressed with the... He made it, but it's not a... Do you feel like guys, it's less impressive, so top is 6'8", but you got Spud, 5'7", you got Nate Robinson, 5'9". Have they kind of set the bar on what the dunking... No, it could be taller guys that do it, but if you got Aaron Gordon, you got to be... Swag on him. You got to be Zach Levine, right? you got to be Aaron Gordon, you got to be Zach Levine, right? You got to be dunking that bitch. Yeah, Tracy McGrady's 6'9".
Starting point is 00:38:49 But as I said, we've seen so much dunking throughout the year on social media that those type of dunks don't impress us anymore,-hmm Right. So unless somebody come up with some real creative shit you you come up with the Michael Jackson glove Come on, yeah, man, you come up with the Michael just put your head through the rim Yeah, now you better it better help you fly you coming through the room Don't and the people were like But he got a higher score for that than that though. I know that's but that's what I'm saying That's that right there. He could put a glove on who now And I was I was watching two things I was watching UFC and I was watching I was watching more UFC and
Starting point is 00:39:43 There he put the glove on I was like Come on. He put the glove on it remind me of that dude Michael Jackson, but I got a question 2300 Jackson Street. I hear you, but I got a question Why why the other dude had a right one on though? Who is homeboy? Well, I Didn't make this shit up. It's a set. A damn show came in the set, we know that.
Starting point is 00:40:10 You remember them old high school dunks? The fuck, man? Remember the old high school dunks where the motherfucker tootsie rolled before they... Yeah. And then throw it up and go dunk? Bitch, that's just a regular dunk. I saw that clip the other day. I mean, I actually thought of this morning.
Starting point is 00:40:24 He was like... Yeah, yeah. About to twerk. Yeah. Here we regular dunk. I saw that clip the other day. I mean, I actually thought this morning. He did that. He was, he threw that one like. Yeah, yeah. By the twerk. Yeah. Here we go, dunk dog. It's a regular dunk dog. It was a good tissy roll, though. All right, dog.
Starting point is 00:40:32 It's a regular ass dunk. A little cartwheel before the dunk. It's still a two-hand dunk. Fuck what you're doing before the dunk, dog. What are you doing on the dunk? So before and after, we got to, since you guys mentioned Jaylen Brown like we said first, all-star tissy. So ain't nobody going to answer my my question about the glove though. Y'all just gonna skip over now I don't know why they both so Jersey's gonna skip over my phone. I got an answer
Starting point is 00:40:55 Like the glove on fire some boom it was gonna blow up or something Like it was going it was gonna shatter the rim and a backboard has some technology on it You didn't want to waste the glove Why the fuck he put it on though? What the fuck he did he he could have just did this. Yeah, just like one to the regular hand right? Shit chopped off both fingers motherfucker clean. I got this now go ducking. You want to hear him rap. Like, dog. When he put it on, I'm like, I'm over here like, oh shit. Somebody searched it by the explosion or something.
Starting point is 00:41:32 That motherfucker's been laughing. Because there's no way you're going to duck, like, with a glove on. First of all, you can't grip the ball, so. Well, I guess that was the idea. It's a glove. He can't catch it. Michael Jackson tribute. Oh, he should have been walking in the air then.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Shit, he should have leaned in it. Who the, goddammit, who the Michael Jackson's being Oh, he should have been boo-walking in the air then. Shit, he should have linked in it. God damn it, do the Michael Jackson spin in the air, niggas, you want to impress me. Shook. Who left the towels in the pool? Oh, this shit was good. Like, I was... We give you credit, Jay Brown,
Starting point is 00:41:57 for at least being an all-star getting in it, though. So, hell... All-stars is ducking. Okay, all right, we'll give him... We showed Jay LeBron love, but he actually did get booed when he tried to show some love to Dee Brown With a no-look dunk while jumping over five foot four streamer legend Kai Sennett who was sitting in a chair
Starting point is 00:42:12 That was a five foot four Look at the last second Yo on the ground. Yo. No, go back, go back, go back. So, hey, I missed the whole thing, right? Wait, wait, wait. No, look. Look at my dad. He did a dab.
Starting point is 00:42:35 That was a deep round. So, the only problem was it wasn't the deep round, but more like I can see brown. Daly got booed. Then he went on the 7-2. Daly got booed. Then he went number seven, too? Yeah, it's Dee. He did.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Dee Brown absolutely won. He must have forgot what it looked like. First of all, the dude is 5'4". Already. And then you had him sit down with the 3'2". So, yeah, that's not a threat. So, I missed the whole shit, right? I thought he jumped over Jason Tatum.
Starting point is 00:43:08 I'm like, why the fuck is Jason Tatum going out? I thought the little dude threw it. I'm like, why the fuck is he out there for? Like, what? Prop. People thought I was nuts when I stood out there with Josh Smith in Denver. People were like, yo, you ain't flinching nothing. I'm like, was one I was loaded
Starting point is 00:43:31 Man I saw Josh right I just people like made you didn't move out like what too late at that point But that's how you do some like this deal is already five foot. Yeah, dude You know for three five four, depending on where you at. You know what makes it even funnier? Oh, shit. The logistics of it was all wrong. So look, you know, Dee Brown went up, covered his eyes, dunked it, then opened his eyes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Right? So he can land correctly. If you look at Jaylen Brown, dunked, closed his eyes on a landing dam near, broke his ankle. Like, look how he came down. He did. Like, boy, that's what your stupid ass did. So, Jalen... Look how he lands.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Look how he lands. He about damn near twisted. Oh, oh, oh. On the LED court. On the LED court. So, Jalen got booed for the attempt by the Indiana man.
Starting point is 00:44:19 As he should have. He should have. And even Dee Brown, you know, father of Lexi Brown, who was on our program. Shout out to Lexi. Even Dee Brown wasn't feeling it. He should have. And even D Brown, father of Lexi Brown who was on our program. Who? Shout out to Lexi.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Even D Brown wasn't feeling it. He posted this on his IG story. It's not easy doing the no look dunk. Hashtag sorry not sorry. Shout out D Brown OG. Shout out Lexi Brown. He has spoken. I ain't gonna lie, J Brown, that wasn't it, bro.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I mean I guess he couldn't close his eyes because he needed to catch the ball first. Dude. I don't know. I mean every dunk it was like if you're going to recreate some shit you got to really recreate it. Why didn't he have D Brown out there? Listen bro I guess the Instagram for followers I guess that made sense, you know could have had Lexi, but she's busy athletes only me getting ready
Starting point is 00:45:11 I'm sure she would say time out her schedule to pull up. Yeah, like I don't know What's the what's the lowest you can get on the dunk contest? They should be your ass. See that's the that's the problem right there. Oh, you think 45 or 40? They need to give out some actual 40s We used to be a problem right there. They need to give out some actual 40s. We used to be a proper country. That right there, like, yeah. Lower score. 39.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Give them a zero. Just be real. I know 40s are last. 39, God damn it. This is crazy. So is there any way to bring excitement back to the dunk contest? Because this is Gil's ring. We don't really like giving away ideas without a bag.
Starting point is 00:45:44 But in a particular instance instance we have to use our powers to save the league there's some rules in the NBA that can that don't get a lot of minutes that could fucking jump yeah that's always been the problem with the NBA they it's like they missed a curve on all dunkers right right? So, you know, James White, he gets drafted, what, 2006, dunk contest 2010. No, no, no. Get him when he's young. He got young legs.
Starting point is 00:46:13 No minute legs. He ain't no minute. And he got them Mack McClung legs. Like, ain't got no NBA minutes on these motherfuckers. They work great. John Wall, you know, you get them three years after he... Everybody you're getting, that hand dunk, you're getting them three, four years
Starting point is 00:46:30 while they're in the NBA. Everybody, not Vince. They kind of fetish in a sense. Vince was what, 99 joint, right? The 2000 dunk contest? To be honest, the last superstar to do a dunk was... It went from Jordan, Dominique, and then probably Dwight Howard was the last superstar to actually be in a dunk contest.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Blake. Blake was a rookie. Blake was a rookie, so he wasn't a superstar. He wasn't a rookie, neither. Kobe wasn't a rookie. And he wasn't a superstar. He wasn't a rookie neither. Kobe wasn't a rookie. So you know so when someone like Stephen A Smith says LeBron ruined the dunk contest he never entered well the superstars before them didn't enter. Kobe rookie season he had nothing to lose he was a rookie no one was projecting him to be who he was
Starting point is 00:47:20 right when he became a superstar he didn't enter the dunk contest Tracy McGrady didn't enter the dunk contest tracy mcgrady didn't enter dunk contest when they were superstars he wasn't even all-star vince won it one year was the second year in the nba when he went into the dunk contest came in right he wasn't a superstar right so there really hasn't been superstars right there should be huh why because there's been superstar dunkers why ain't they in there back then there's been superstars dunkers that's happened to me in it for the 2000s that maybe could have been in it there's some say there ain't been superstars in a long time in the dunk contest right so it's like if you really want to get the dunk contest back to where it's popping right either you go and find real dunkers in the NBA
Starting point is 00:48:01 like you have your motherfuckers had the That ain't working. Y'all got combine right? Oh shit, he got 48 him. Yeah running vert 45 yeah, yeah, right you can you can do that you got motherfuckers in a dunk contest 30. I might as well have into that bitch Yeah Yeah, I would have paid money to see the hun there But guys like Matt, do they do the thing though. I'll get you that shit. What's the difference? God damn it? You know to me so it's one of those things is but you had guys that could dunk like Jason Richardson wasn't a star Desmond Mason wasn't a star is guys, but they're getting it right guys that could jump like you like you said
Starting point is 00:48:42 Hey, look that thing should was like oh, oh The fans don't care if you're not gonna be a star they don't care as long as you have a nice done So if you got some young talent out there, you know Like McClung and like Derek Derek Brown a few years ago from the heat white now like even shit when Shannon Brown did it I was there four years in the NBA by the time he got in there. But there's some guys that can do it. These dudes, first two years. We ain't getting them in the first two years.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Yeah, once they get established, they'll be like, I'm good. Start getting minutes. Start getting minutes. What you do here is like, do exactly what you did in the 80s with Michael Jordan and Dominique. Force them.
Starting point is 00:49:23 With these young dudes, you sign them to three. if you're going to compete, it's three years in a row. Imagine like a John Morant, a Zion, an Aaron Gordon. Zion would have already been in mind. Man, Aaron Gordon and Zach Levine. That first year he got into the NBA, boom!
Starting point is 00:49:40 Now, shit. Man. Keep that shit down over there. Yeah, him. You want to show, fellas? I just said him, Jai. I just said him, Jai. You get those guys, and then you do a deal with them where they have to compete the first three years straight.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Three years straight. Like, it's three-year contracts with the Dunkers. Mm-hmm. Like, it's three-year contracts with the Dunkers. Mm-hmm. I think it better. Gil, you talked about LeBron getting some blame, so on first take today, Stephen A. Smith
Starting point is 00:50:11 pointed to LeBron as the issue or why the Dunk Contest isn't as good as it used to be. All that other stuff, Hall of Fame, Mount Rushmore, phenomenal, four-time champion,
Starting point is 00:50:21 all that other stuff, we will miss him when he's gone, appreciate his greatness, the whole bit. The one thing, Shannon bit the one thing shannon the one thing i'll even let shannon i'm so serious about this i'll shut up about the goat debate if you hear me out okay okay the slam dunk contest i got the stat here shannon because when we're talking about the slam dunk contest from 1985 to 1997, five of the 13 slam dunk contests were won by future Hall of Famers Jordan twice, Dominique Wilkins twice, Kobe once. Michael Jordan participated in the contest three times.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Dominique Wilkins five times. Five. Every high jumper, every Skywalker, every above-the-rim talent salivated for the opportunity to compete in the slam dunk contest. It stopped when LeBron James said, I'm not doing it. And from that point forward, the stars who followed didn't feel compelled to prioritize a slam dunk contest. What stars though? Blame Bron. So let me just say this. Besides LeBron James, since LeBron James came to the NBA, what other stars had that jumping ability or that could draw, like, who else? Russ.
Starting point is 00:51:51 No, that's what I'm saying. No. Russ is the same thing as LeBron in jumping. No. But that's what I'm saying. They're not the same. Probably Jaws, I would say is the only legit. Derrick Rose.
Starting point is 00:52:04 Derrick Rose. Yeah, Derrick Rose yeah, okay one. Okay. Yeah D Rose. Um, I Wait, I'm with you. I know you do. I know you brainstorm it over that I'm with you Like right said the white we put is the only superstar Michael Jordan. Well, well we put Derrick Rose there now because he won a MVP. Right? Zion, if he was healthy. Like superstars who could have competed. It would have been Zion, Ant-Man, God. Now, though. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:52:36 From 03 on. From 03 on, right. That's what I'm saying. That's now. Before, nobody else. The superstars should have been Kobe, Kobe. Yeah Vince trace of a greedy Steve Francis Those would have been the superstar name Ray Allen maybe but that's what I'm saying. They're missing. They're missing the point you
Starting point is 00:52:57 LeBron didn't do it Okay, we get that encouraged other ones not to Kobe did it his rookie year wanted he didn't defend he didn't defend it When he became Kobe Bryant the all-star the all-nba player the soup he didn't Dunk anymore. He has he done it though as a rookie. I mean, I'm trying to do it This is oh three right you come up the bit what I'm saying is no one knew you do it. No one knew who you Know what I'm saying was a dunker. You wasn't a superstar. Yeah, you became a... Amari did it. Eventually. But he was still an all-star, though. I mean, probably was still an all-star.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Yeah, but a rookie... But not a lot of... Because he's sitting on the bench, though. But let's be honest, right? But what I'm saying is, why no one said anything that he didn't defend after that? Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Vince Carter, he didn't defend after that. Trace McGrady, once, he didn't go after that. L haven't got in there one time. Huh? He's saying L haven't got in there one time. Cool, but none of these... It should have been his rookie year. But it should have been his rookie year.
Starting point is 00:53:49 He would have met the quota. Like, if it was... Because you come in there as a rookie, you're playing in a rookie sophomore game. Mm-hmm. It should have been fucking mandatory. Yep. Right?
Starting point is 00:53:58 You're a rookie. We know you LeBron James. Mm-hmm. But you still got R next to your name. Mm-hmm. We pretty much tell you what the fuck to do at this point. You a rookie though, you go to All-Star weekend, you playing the rookie sophomore game, your weekend, not yours.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Mm-hmm. Dunk contest, so I'm just talking about what it is. You gonna be in all that, motherfucker. Dunk contest, three point contest, skill contest, goddammit. Yeah, they should have made you know the fuck up. Take it from a motherfucker who's also the number one pick and played in the rookie sophomore game two years and so yeah
Starting point is 00:54:28 Obligation damn it. They told me where to go what time to be there Guess what my ass was right there there at that time So if they were to tell him to be short the dunk contest then that's what but they cater to not want to now you suffer From it like the white did I think the white did it four times or something like that like that's I'm saying today He's the biggest name since LeBron. There's that he's been the biggest shit. He's a bigger name since yeah As for name, he's the biggest name since Dominique and Jordan people like I don't do your research He's the biggest name since then look I was a star like he was he was a real superstar He wasn't coming off the bench. He got fed. He was a superstar Blake was a second that was his rookie season
Starting point is 00:55:06 Like like really understand what we're talking about when we saying players like some of these players just became on to be great But when they were great and they could have filled that arena with their dunk presence They didn't do it. They didn't do nothing LeBron didn't do all he's all he could have did is just I'm a join the First year do a little one-hand don't do it a little did this a little bounce like his influence though He would have did it more people would have did it for sure But we can say that but people do fight the Michael Jordan no one did it then But that's upset. Where was everybody then like we can put you I know you want to blame somebody When Jordan and Dominique stop, where was it then what where was it then I'm not
Starting point is 00:55:47 making no stars but I was like they making it seem like when it got to look star star star star star star star when it got to LeBron he was like nah I'm good it was not there was it wasn't there anyway and let's just call it like what it is right most guys that come in this league that get drafted and you supposed to be that guy, right? Your number one thing not jumping right The brunch is gifted in that man right there grows gifted in that matter you suppose by you come in you have to let me gift It most guys not that mm-hmm Bad motherfucker coming absolutely can throw it like Very rarely you get one draft of Zion and John Moran mm-hmm right I got one to pick
Starting point is 00:56:30 they got that very rare fairly rare right very rare if you get that so most guys that has one dunk contest been inests, that we look at and get, man, he get off that floor. Mm-hmm. They not the first guy, the second guy, the third guy, the fourth guy, the fifth. They not- Undrafted. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Like, got undrafted, like, they just what it is. Guys work they tail off to get to where they need to get to and they just happen to have this gift. Right? Right. Mm? Right. And they got, I look at my son. KJ has always got off the floor with the best of them. Put him in there.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Was able to teach him how to play basketball. Right? Right? Mm-hmm. That's a bad man. Now he's able to go and play and display that in the game. And, okay, he got him one in. Cool.
Starting point is 00:57:30 But he know how to play basketball, so he's not the, wasn't the first option on the team, second option on the team. He was a 52nd pick. That's the person you're supposed to have three years straight. Facts. Right. You're supposed to have him three years straight. I don't even know where he's at right now, but Cash is standing. Cash put his ass in there three years straight. He's supposed to... I don't even know where he's at right now, but Cash and Stanley. Cash and Stanley.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Cash put his ass in there three years straight. You got... You got... You got McClung. Yeah. Now you got guys who really got 40-somethings.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yeah. Ant-Man can get in there. 46, 48. Ant-Man can get in there. I think Anthony Elwes, he got a nice little windmill package. He can switch his windmills up
Starting point is 00:58:02 and stuff like that, but it's... I just don't like that narrative like you like this one person Like messed up the dunk contest moving forward when more stars actually competed since then before then yeah It's hard to be on wanna blame him, but his name impact would have changed no it wouldn't how about the names before him? No, it would how about that what I'm saying is how about the names we've done for the bronze here what it is? I think more people would have tried would have tried to be in it just to be in it with him Okay, so because because anything he just didn't want but yeah, just one time, but this is the problem anyway 2003
Starting point is 00:58:39 But this war or any year just do it one time He was gonna put his name. Yeah, there was not. When they said it, I was like, bullshit. There were fucking seven years in the NBA. No. 2003, right? 2004 was the All-Star game. That year. So who else would have been in it that year?
Starting point is 00:58:57 Vince. Ray Allen. Kobe. Like, those are the stars you're missing. You're missing the stars. And I don't think if LeBron decides he's going to go in a dunk contest, that doesn't make Vince Carter say, I'm going to go be in a dunk contest again. I don't think he's talking about us talking about how we're saying it makes sense for him to do it when he's young.
Starting point is 00:59:19 He's talking about 2009, 2010 when we're doing it, throwing it off the glass, having dunk contests in our warm-up lines. And fans like, dang, why ain't none of them doing any dunk contests? Okay, how about this dunk contest, right? 03 when LeBron comes in, right? Since he's a high school kid, he's favored in a sense. Because if a high school kid, just like Kobe little East Bay,, right? We're gonna give you the 50, right? So LeBron TMAC
Starting point is 00:59:49 Vince back in it Jay rich in it. There's my Mason back in it. What kind of huh? BD still dunking back there too a little bit, but a little bit right Steve friends Right brought it now. What I'm wondering McDonald's game in 2000 I mean, but what kind of don't leave what kind of dunk contest is that sound like? Yeah, I sound like one for the ages. I sound like a Zach Levine That sounds like an epic ass dunk contest because you got real superstar. You got real superstars and You have future superstars coming into the dunk contest trying out this skill I'm working. All right, so but we don't do it again. I. We don't demand our superstars to come dunk.
Starting point is 01:00:28 That's why it's better to do it like this. Because you don't know the trajectory of a superstar, if you would have had Vince for, you have to enter three years, Kobe you have to enter three years, Tracee McGrady, by the time they made the All-Star, went back-to-back MVP, they still entering the dunk contest. That's what you need. Zion, Ja, like right now you have a chance to, shit, fucking Wimby might go out there and try some shit. They should have made Wimby do it this year just so he could crack up. Wimby going to do it one year?
Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah, do it. I think Wimby going to try everything. He going to try dunk contests and three-point contests. He'll try it. With a glove. And pop out with the other glove. He likes that dude on face down. But just like anything, just like anything, right? You have dunkers and you have dunk contesters.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Two different people. Absolutely. Right? So, NBAs, how about you stop picking who's in the dunk contest. Won't you let entries come in Or like so dudes that sitting on the bench that know they got damn near 40 something They got some creativity you haven't seen them dunk before so you're not gonna put them in there anyway But let them pity let it let it be a tryout before I like Jeremy. I got one better for you. I Think you fucking make each team submit one player
Starting point is 01:01:44 Now we talk to you. I listen to NBA make sure you know each team submit one player. Now we talking. Do a real one? NBA, make sure y'all take these notes. Each team submit one player. You got fucking 30 people to pick from. You can't get it... One thing I can do, if you got 30 people to pick from, you can pick four. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Why is it four? I don't know. Whatever you can pick four. Because they got to keep it TV. TV friendly. We got all day now. We ain't got... Well, stop giving motherfuckers three minutes.
Starting point is 01:02:04 That's what I mean. So therefore, you pick... Listen. TV Therefore You ain't just you picking motherfuckers get that you know can jump you're done like cuz you would we all been in locker room We've been on the practice floor and motherfucker practicing you like damn. Yep like Right or I think Jay I got in the dunk contest. I was doing shit I know they were like my team right now that would have that could have competed in this dunk contest We're gonna talk about you know, the G League dunk contest in a second, but perhaps a visionary could come through Put together a dunk contest of their own girl. Thank you. We love about
Starting point is 01:02:40 We we got we got we got real darkness in these streets You may oh we my money's on it real done Came up one. All right, you're in trouble cuz I'm My money's on here Cola. Hey, we're Duncan. Hey now, did you see your son? So it was no No, you're gonna see him pose his son boosters His son did the shooting contest, right? So they did a little mock 2024 Maricola number four dunk contest.
Starting point is 01:03:11 I mean, didn't miss. Oh, wow. Not surprised. He's coming to get the bag. Ah, shit. So we got an audience question on the topic. So just wanted to ask about two young players that we haven't mentioned yet.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Do we think we'll ever see Zion do the dunk contest? And would it be a good idea for John Moran, maybe during his image rehabilitation, to do it next year? Be honest, Zion, no.
Starting point is 01:03:39 You should have had him the first year. I'm pretty sure if If John didn't get hurt It would have been something he would have did because the fans would have been rallying around him to win that This year hopefully next year he enters but if he doesn't do it next year, then he's not gonna do it. I Think man that he got a shoe it's a possibility him to feature a new shoe on store weekend dunk contest don't contest you yeah something like
Starting point is 01:04:11 that but it's about it would make sense any young so even if you don't do it next year maybe the year after next one yes tough it's hard it once once they get into their 30s yeah yeah it don't matter once you get into your sideways like you like Before we move on we got to show some love to Jordan Jackson who was the son of our very own Cheryl swoops So Jordan won the G League dunk contest with a sermon adults including this one rocking his mom's Comet jersey. So North, you said you got some G leaguers that could come in and
Starting point is 01:04:48 get the baggage Jordan in that mix. Ron Hollins right now, kid, we're competing with him. Easy. Young Tyler, young Tyler, he do between the legs, vertical. Either way, frontward way, backwards way, all types. To take off from far out the dotted line windmill left hand right hand young my task and run and bounce it between his leg windmill don't get like young dink who's 17 years old 100% can dunk with these dudes all day throw it off the backboard and the same hand they
Starting point is 01:05:22 do all type of crazy stuff in fact and that's the thing that they're they're practicing dunk NBA do you think Jalen Bryant like that? That should read there let you know that he didn't practice not one Dunk for that It'll be worse if he did practice that. Yo, he has the Michael Jackson glove. Then they're going, all right, y'all ready? You're going to throw it up.
Starting point is 01:05:49 I'm going to turn it. And then I'm going to dunk. Yeah. Run it up. Let me in. Sit your ass down. Sit down. Sit your ass down.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Man, I want to see that shit. We talked about the pre-festivities. Now let's talk about the actual game. Before the All-Star Game on Sunday, NBA legend, Indiana native Larry Bird, a.k.a. the Hick from French Lick, had a simple request for the participants in this year's game. The one thing I would really like to see
Starting point is 01:06:18 is they play hard tonight in this All-Star Game. I think it's very important when you have the best players in the world together, you've got to compete. And you've got to play hard. And you've got to show the fans how good they really are.
Starting point is 01:06:38 So, sadly, the players, Toleric Burke, shut your old ass up. You're not doing it. None you say. Gave fans a hot pack of mid. All-star game record, 379 combined points. That's crazy. Combined 168 three-point attempts. 397,
Starting point is 01:06:54 excuse me. Combined 168 three-point attempts and zero defense. Also, some extremely questionable moments, like this one from Luka right before halftime. Trying to get the... Uh-oh. Wes was down 13 at that point.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Luca commented on the shot from the locker room at halftime. He said, two for one, analytics. Carl Anthony Towns... He's funny at least. He's funny at least. He's funny at least. So Carl Anthony Towns led all scorers with 50, including 31 in the fourth quarter on 19 shot attempts. The next closest player in the fourth quarter attempts was Steph with five. So during Kat's fourth quarter explosion, Draymond Green offered this astute analysis. This look like the old Minnesota days. Cat got 40, they down 20.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Cat took 35 shots in the game, which is nine more than All-Star Game MVP Damian Lillard, who finished with 39 points, going 11 for 23 from three, including a pair of half quarters and Dame shooting from half quarters again good to see Dame though shaking it off getting his
Starting point is 01:08:16 mind back right for the second half of the season so naturally Adam Silver wasn't pleased with the showing by the stars of the league. And to the Eastern Conference All-Stars, you scored the most points. Well, congratulations. I was like, this shit wasn't actually comedy. This was probably the funniest All-Star weekend I think in recent memory. The media wasn't impressed either. Lakers beat reporter Dan Woge offered this assessment. He said, all jokes
Starting point is 01:08:49 aside, the NBA has an issue with events. Seasons too long. Regular season games don't feel special. And on the one night where they can showcase the actual product to casual fans, general public, this is what gets delivered. It's not great, Bob. What's his name? Dan Woge. Hey, Dan Woge, are What's his name? Dan Wonky.
Starting point is 01:09:05 Are you going to watch next year? Right. How long have we been saying the same shit? We've been saying it for 8, 9, 10, 12 years and your goofy ass keep watching it, complaining, watching it, complaining.
Starting point is 01:09:21 Either just shut up and then just watch it because it's festivities or go out there and play yourself because... Ooh, media... Y'all pay money for media. What I'm saying is
Starting point is 01:09:33 we're in a sticky situation, right? And the situation is this. We know you want them to play harder, but how hard do you want them to play when after the weekend's over, reality kicks in? What happens when reality, when this is over, all right, woo, now let's get ready for the playoffs and now your players is fucked up from the all-star game like when only because it's only because it's Kobe It was different when he got his nose broke
Starting point is 01:10:09 All right, he got his nose broken all-star game and because it's him it didn't affect anything But what happens if it was one of these players, right? They out for goddamn month They can play harder and then... We hoop, bro. Like, we hoop. But it's... We hoop every day in our sleep.
Starting point is 01:10:32 I know. We don't want to get hurt, man. No, you're right, but at the end of the day, man, like... We're not asking them to play so hard. Like, why? Why not? Why?
Starting point is 01:10:45 My question is, why? This is a celebration, right? From the hard work you put in during the rest of the season. For the most part, man, I'm going to the All-Star, man. I'm going to Indiana. You're going to the Bahamas. What are you about to do All-Star weekend? About to go to the Bahamas with the kids.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Comparable. Why can't I go to the Bahamas? Because you can you about to do all summer weekend? About to go to the Bahamas with the kids. Comparable. Comparable. Why can't I go to the Bahamas? Because you get paid $40, $50 million. No, I get paid $40, $50 million for the NBA season. And, no. Not that all summer weekend.
Starting point is 01:11:16 That's part of the sacrifice of being a star. No, no, true, true. You just said it's a celebration, right? Mm-hmm. So where the fucking balloons and fucking confetti?
Starting point is 01:11:24 They not doing it. That's their problem they're not doing that shit if I do it So So did NBA came in to go. Yeah, I guess so why even have a fucking game being just have a party Now I think how the game the? Just have a party. Man, I think have a game, but the guys got to be a little bit more competitive. That's all he's asking. We play harder at Rico Hines than in Austin.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Also, I mean, because we're trying to get... You can get hard out there, too. You can get hurt anywhere. But it's, for the most part, man, when, like, think about somebody, like, we'll say, who is probably the most demanded this weekend? Probably, like, somebody like... No, not Wimby. Who would be the most demanded going in. Probably like somebody like, nah, not Wimby.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Who would be the most demanded going in? Probably Steph. And in the game, right? So think about him on his legs doing this, doing that. He ain't really getting no real rest. So for the most part, like when I went out there, man, I stayed in my room the whole time because I'm thinking about the second half of the season myself.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Yeah, but you was going to be good the second half of the season no matter what. That's what you work out all day for. True. True. But I'm not thinking, but me, my three years, I'm not really, I'm so excited I don't really care about the game itself. Like I don't really care about the game. Like I played nine minutes one year. I ain't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I mean I care because it was a bunch of Pistachios going in front of me, but other than that, it was like, man. So I got the jersey. I get whatever. The game itself, like... What is there to prove? So, therefore, what did the NFL do? They took that Pro Bowl out. That shit, the flag, goddammit.
Starting point is 01:12:55 But we can't do that for the NBA. No, no, I'm just... But that's what we can't. They realize what it is. But it's been messed up from the beginning. And this is the trickle-down effect from it. One, it's been messed up from the beginning. And this is the trickle-down effect from it.
Starting point is 01:13:06 One, it's not the best players in the NBA. Right? Some of these guys aren't actual all-stars. Some of these guys are products of... Now, I don't want to throw names out there. Thank you, Gil. But there's some years... There's some years...
Starting point is 01:13:23 Okay, you think he's gone now, but you think Kyle Corbin was All-Star at any point in his living existence? Yeah, no, but he made All-Star game, right? So there's players in the game. What I'm saying is there's players who are not All-Stars. They're getting put in the game because of their team record. Right there, the integrity of the all-star game is already Compromised or 90% of the time that 95% of the time is the best it shouldn't be it should be
Starting point is 01:13:51 100% of the time the best players in the NBA. This is Injuries injuries, no, no, that's one thing you got that out of it. Take a vote in though Right every now and he's still vote on fuck though. Right? Every now and then. He's still voted in. Fuck that. If he's in the top right now, what, 24? So right now it's the top 24 guys, right? 12 and 12. Right?
Starting point is 01:14:12 That year, who should have been in? If he's voted in the top 24 players and he gets hurt, then you go to number 25. Then 26. Like, your record should not... But that's one time, though. No, that's every time. Has Middleton ever been an all-star? It should be 100%.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Has he ever been a top 24 player in the NBA? That's what I'm saying. You got to judge by that season. You can't go by the representation. Whatever season he went to the All-Star game, was he top 24? Draymond Green. Was Draymond Green. Was Draymond Green a great player for his team, but all-star player?
Starting point is 01:14:50 You're right about that. But that's what I'm saying. There's a lot. You can go on every year because of what they're doing. We don't want to shit on people because they made it. I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:14:57 that's one or two players. Every year, nigga. Every year. That's okay. One or two players every year? No. 95% of the dudes playing got their own shoe. They the best player.
Starting point is 01:15:07 They make the most money. So if one or two stragglers get in, pretty good, okay. What I'm saying is then it's already compromised. The stragglers get in. Yeah, so stragglers should get in. Because what's happening is the all-stars are struggling. The stragglers ain't the one that's not playing hard, though. But they taking the place of a guy that's in the top 24, the top 25, right?
Starting point is 01:15:20 You're taking the place of a guy who might come in and play hard because he got in. Right? That's what I'm saying. You're already starting to bullshit. Yeah, you're already starting to bullshit Yeah, I'm top I'm gonna fuck if your record is Motherfucker one and thirty five and you average in fucking 20. No, I'm only man Even the fans get right. Yes, it's still all start the best players not the best team We call it a rightstar. The best players, not the best team. So this game, this game right here, was the best players, was this the best players in the league playing in this all-star game yesterday? No.
Starting point is 01:15:51 No. Who, who, who? I'm not saying that. You want to go there? Yeah, I do. Oh, we're going to go there. Yeah, we're going to go there. Tell me, tell me.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Oh, he pulled the phone out. Nah, pull it out. Which one of them shouldn't have been in there? He pulled the phone out. Oh, no. Which of them shouldn't have been in there, K-Maro G? You don't wear digital. The notebook has been replaced with the phone.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Talk to me. Talk to me, OG. Which one shouldn't have been in there? You can go? You don't wear digital. The notebook has been replaced with the phone. Talk to me, OG. Which one shouldn't have been in there? You go, I'm going to go in. The names that I saw in there, 90%, all of them. See, 90%. So who's that 10%? Scotty Barnes. Hey, hey.
Starting point is 01:16:18 So he's not having an all-star season this year? Is he top 25? And then about that, is he having an all-star season this year? Top 25 in the NBA right now. Is Brunson having an all-star game this year? Is he top 25? And then about that, is he having an all-star season this year? Is he the top 25 in the NBA right now? Is Brunson having an all-star game this year in New York?
Starting point is 01:16:28 He's playing. Is Paulo Panchero having an all-star game this year? No, Panchero is worthy. Yes, he is. Paulo Panchero is worthy. Averaging 20. I can find you
Starting point is 01:16:35 100 people averaging 20. In what? In the NBA. No, he's averaging 20. He's more than that. 20. How many rebounds? Then fucking put Winby in.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Hey. Maybe. Winby is having a better year than... Is he? Yes. Is he? Yeah. I don't know. I'm talking about 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds.
Starting point is 01:16:51 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds.
Starting point is 01:16:59 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. 20 pounds. Palo bear Carol. Yeah, when be slim and it when they in a team, I think his fiber I think women's having about three point five blocks and they got the same record for when they didn't have 3.2 assist In a league-leading 3.5 total blocks for the panchero. There's definitely been there. So let's keep going. No, you want to keep going?
Starting point is 01:17:21 Gonna be the name of Yannis and all them deserve to be in your Brian Brian and all of them, Paul George, they all deserve to be in there. So Bam having a better year than Wimby? Bam is an all-star for sure. Is he having a better year than Wimby? I'm taking Bam over with Wimby right now. In the Eastern Conference? In the Eastern Conference, yes.
Starting point is 01:17:36 We're not talking about the team. I'm saying yes to Bam. I'm saying Bam is an all-star, 100%. So let's go team. I'm saying Bam is an all-star, 100%. So please somebody get a pen and paper out. to top from who's the best plan in BA Giannis to meet your Joker. Yeah Three it may hurt. Okay, I mean, but I'm gonna fucking made it
Starting point is 01:17:57 We better go to top 24 players. I'm gonna be them three for sure the top tour. So Steph okay. Mm-hmm say going. Steph, Seguil, KD, Bryan, Kawhi. Jokic. We already said Jokic. Okay. KD, did we say that? We already said him too. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Booker. Booker, Dame. Anthony Edwards. Kevin Durant. We said him. We said KD already? We said him. Tatum.
Starting point is 01:18:24 Tatum. Okay We go letter dame somebody Burden got nine caliber Right NBA right now. Okay. Yes. It was some some. Brunson? I would have said Sabonis. De'Aaron Fox? Who's not in there? Sabonis. I'm not saying him over Bam. I'm not. Sabonis? I'm not saying him over Bam. I'm talking about you over him.
Starting point is 01:18:56 We're just saying. Top 24. So Bam is in front of Fox? I'm saying Bam. I think that Bam is better than Sabonis. Okay, how about Fox? Okay, so he's not in there. No, Fox, what you mean?
Starting point is 01:19:10 He didn't make it. Fox Sabonis didn't make it. He didn't make it. I don't think Sabonis is top 24. Yeah, I don't think that either. So Fox is.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Okay, so Fox. You think Fox is too? In this NBA? That's where we are, right? So we got Trae Young. How about Maxie? Maxie. Trae Young, Maxie. PG? We said him we are, right? So we got Trae Young. How about Maxie? Maxie. Trae Young, Maxie.
Starting point is 01:19:26 PG. We said him. PG, so we got PG. Y'all saying these names hands down over who though? This is top 24, so we're going to get to 24. And then we're going to name
Starting point is 01:19:37 everybody who's... So everybody I just named is an all-star except two people. We said Pauly. I don't know if you guys agree. I think Paolo Pintero should be in this. Jaylen Brown? Is Paolo a top 24 player?
Starting point is 01:19:50 Top 24 players in the Bay right now? Maybe. He team USA. We're not talking maybes. Some of these is maybes. After the top 15, after the top 15, it's questionable. None of the people that we've named yet is a maybe. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Who's maybe? I'm talking about people that you can compare with the car Anthony Oh, what is he is he top 24 car at the time? Yeah, I don't have him over be home I don't think he's better than Bama to buy you or probably Pintero. I don't think he is I don't I Don't think he is late. John. Mrs. Gills reading presented by her dog Finn So what so where does BAM fit on in opinion, in the list of 24? Where does Bam fit? At the position that he plays.
Starting point is 01:20:32 The last four names you named, Bam could be in any of them. That wasn't my question. I'm just telling you that, though. In your opinion, where does Bam Adebayo fit in the top 24 players in the NBA? Is he top 10? No. Is he top 15? No, is he top 15? No Is he top 20? To me so he's no BAM out of by you 20 and 24 Between 20 and 24 for me
Starting point is 01:21:03 Because he's a big he's the best two-way player in there's a big as far as offense and defense and so he's better around so so so he's better as a big as a big as a big as a big so he's better than anthony davis no not offensive so therefore you say he's the best therefore he is defensively i believe he is and he assists better play make better he just don't score better than anthony davis but he shot blocks just as good if not better he switches and plays man-to-man defense. It just better He he played make him the ball. I'm in rebound bad man Bam out of Bayou, I'm certain averaging 11 10.6 rebounds all 11. We give her no it's 10.6 Games he got some eights and some sevens in that motherfucker So right now so so you mean to tell me Bam is better than, so Bam is 20 to 24. We named AD way in the top 15, though.
Starting point is 01:21:48 We didn't put AD down here. We put AD in the top 15 already. I didn't ask you about Anthony Davis. Well, you just asked me. I said, is he better? I'm talking about where is Bam. So Bam is 20 to 24. To me, I think 20 to 24.
Starting point is 01:21:58 So Bam is top 25 player at NBA. To me, he is. To me, he is Some years So jaw Not playing right now, but I mean I do it stop the bull so now you I'm just saying but is that plan right now? Everybody's fucking hell, but we talking about the all-star game. No, we saw name who said be out this year That was the conversation top 24 guys in India not job for sure
Starting point is 01:22:24 Yes, that's not top 10 to me if everybody's healthy they put their fucking shoes on to go play a basketball game today Name who's going to be in it this year. That was the conversation. Top 24 guys in the NBA. Now, Jai for sure is. Jai top 10 to me. If everybody's healthy, they can put their fucking shoes on and go play a basketball game today. Yeah, Jai for sure. But this is... But the all-star game, everybody's not playing.
Starting point is 01:22:33 You have guys who are not playing. You have guys who are hurting. Guys who are not eligible to play. So we can't just keep... But this is why we don't... But this is why... Hey, Norris, my legs training, that's strong.
Starting point is 01:22:41 But this is why we don't... Keep moving, huh? That's what I'm saying. We don't respect but this is why we don't keep moving huh that's what we don't respect that's why we don't respect i'm not harrison wow how you don't respect though because all start so everybody in the all-star game none of them dudes deserve it maybe it's some argue maybe it's some arguable people who may deserve it just as much but you can't say they don't deserve it that's why all nba that's why all nba is more important it is more because because all nba means you was the dude, right?
Starting point is 01:23:06 You are top 15 all you really need a season though all-stars where all-star is There's some people who ever Some people who need any play some people who on good teams, right? So you want sure there's people who didn't make the all-star American team all NBA. That's a long season deal No more. No. No, that means y'all screwed him and the voters are different to the voting is different for all NBA That's the voting is my vote is about the devotions about basketball. Yeah That's why I agree with you somebody made a bunch of
Starting point is 01:23:43 Mistake a bunch of you made all-star in front of me, and then, you know, when All-NBA came in, where y'all at? Where y'all at? Oh, y'all not. Oh, yeah, yeah. And that was a mistake. Who would have did that? Y'all not top players.
Starting point is 01:23:53 Y'all just part of a team that was good. So none of these dudes didn't deserve to be All-Stars. I'm not saying that. But I'm just saying, I want to see the best players. I asked you a specific question. I asked you a specific question. Those are the best players, though, that can play. The guys we're talking about can play.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Joel Embiid hurt. Josh hurt. We all know he didn't deserve to be in it. But then y'all can't name. I mean, Fox didn't get voted by who? How did he miss? Either he didn't get voted by the fans or the coaches didn't feel like he was. No, they vote.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Because what happened is you get your vote in, and then when they get this vote in, someone goes in there and manipulates the vote. And then they start adding, oh, we need winning. We need to put some winning in here We we need to reward this team and so when it don't count at all Huh that ain't part of but make you all-star now when you that good you can make at least your team a little bit better You're the third option. How you make it all sorry the third option man You're the third option on your team making an all-star game When we start naming players that changed a team's trajectory as soon as they got in,
Starting point is 01:24:46 Wimby's record is the same as when he wasn't there. So you're going to put him in over Apollo Pintero? Are you kidding me? We saw what Orlando used to look like, and since they got Apollo, look what they look like. Since they got him, or since a couple years? A couple years since they... A couple years. But directly, his trajectory
Starting point is 01:25:02 then took their franchise, boom, right up like... So now we're comparing a rookie to a guy that's been there for A couple years all I'm saying is y'all can't say Paula Pinchero don't deserve to be an all-star That's what I'm saying. We can't say humans are being honest. They just don't deserve but I mean I can't say that I Can't say that I mean let me see How low is in his second season just to FYI? I was putting that shit together before he got there Understood man where they were they not hmm, huh?
Starting point is 01:25:28 It was putting that shit together before Paulo got there when you were when you were all story They like that shit together have so we got that winning. That's all I'm saying. Have you taken that to another? I'm not no one 20 the team 30 for they were putting it Matches you put if you baking a cake Stop came right stop. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. You make the cake Making the cake right Gotta have some agree. You got a fucking ingredients, right? They had all the shit up on the count and was like don't do that. What makes the cake the best thing the frosty?
Starting point is 01:26:00 No, okay. I would say they don't know the fucking sugar, right? Sugar make this you can make a cake without you can't make it no cake without sugar. That's fair. Maybe fucking flour I'm not mad. I'm not mad all the shit up on there. You you add that main ingredient. You got a fucking excellent cake I'm not mad. I'm not mad that he's in there I mean like, you know Someone's a small was someone said frost if someone said his name is he I wouldn't I wouldn't thought of him
Starting point is 01:26:27 Right, I mean, I wouldn't like oh no not him so maybe like a school at Scotty Barnes I'm trying to say who don't deserve They're gonna be in there. That's what I'm trying to figure out everybody who was in there. I thought had a Had a right to be in or now there's something that also could have been sure but I think that those could have been right Don't you have something it's it's top 24 once you start with that then you have the problem with the game itself, right? The difference between today's game and the past is the three-point line Right now that you have a three-point line everybody want to shoot threes take the fucking three-point line out I think take the fucking three-point line now ain't no motherfucking threes
Starting point is 01:27:05 I think it's the competition. No, no, but we can say competition we want but remember they're going to the bass Remember Magic Johnson didn't play that season came in in all-star game one MVP So I can ask everybody like how the fuck you let the dude who ain't even in NBA come in and outwork y'all That's all I want to say. I mean we can give it was a different time, you know I know it was a different time Come out there and do what he did with all things considered You know, he's winning that in Kmart, you know, okay, nobody scored 200 points on you no matter what game you know that But but what I'm saying is you know, I'm right or wrong Okay, so it's gotta be a little bit of competitive spirit regardless. What is the competitive?
Starting point is 01:27:41 Where's the competitive spirit at how many threes that they shoot? 168 come by 168 combined. 168 combined. No one's guarding that far out anyway. They wasn't off the half court. What I'm saying is, I'm sitting at a three-point line and you're pulling up just chucking threes. If you want it competitive, take out
Starting point is 01:27:57 the three-point line. Take off the 12 minutes. Bump that shit to six. Or just play ball. No. You play a recall. No. Bump it to six minutes. Bump it to six minutes. Or just play ball. No. You play a recall. No, no. Bump it to six minutes. Bump it to six minutes. Let motherfuckers start thinking about their time.
Starting point is 01:28:09 You already messing up history anyway. You already, listen. You already messing up history with changing all these rules and adding shit in. You right about that. They messing stuff up. Fucking six minutes. Six minutes, goddammit. Six minutes, no threes.
Starting point is 01:28:23 The first fucking three quarters all layups and dunks goddamnit so I put roots start putting real rules in there radical really like if I can if I can shoot 23 he's 23s bro I mean I saw me three days 23 23 listen the year the year 2005 the MVP Allen Iverson Had a total of 15 points Made me think like damn if I had five more points I could have won that bitch That's the dip you know to be but nobody's sitting there checking a whole bunch of threes out there.
Starting point is 01:29:05 Like take away the three-point line, make motherfuckers come in there. I had 17 in mine. Very efficient. 17 to seven. But the possessions was different. They was guarding a little different. Like throwing that bitch up. I was just throwing it up.
Starting point is 01:29:20 I was hanging on them people's furniture. So let's keep this thing moving. We got to talk a little bit about LeBron. Kobe have a fit He's the one to all-star game watch that by the way For sure. Yeah, I'm fit watch it. I mean No, we can show listen, we'll so Kobe more loved in that and then we guess we can say they should change the name That's fun. Yeah, they should change the name of the Dan Tony award But that's what said you don't try to trick the system you try to do everything
Starting point is 01:29:46 to trick this call that motherfucker the dantoni award shit let everybody run up and down shoot threes and shit the anna lincoln award shit whatever you want to call it besides the kobe award because that's definitely not the because that's definitely i mean that's what i'm saying like if you really want to change you you want to change if you want to make it more competitive, like, have some penalties in that motherfucker, for real. Have some penalties in it. The winner gets this, put that money right in the middle of the flow. Boom!
Starting point is 01:30:13 Right? People are like, oh, shit. Hell yeah. Have it hanging up there? Like, you have... Have a million dollars hanging in the Dumbo Tron? No, you have 12 suitcases. Motherfucker, half a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:30:23 You're making so much money anyway. Half a million dollars each for the winner. Right there. 12. Right in your face. Right there, 12. Which 12 going to get it, god damn it? They got that shit in a lockbox under the seat.
Starting point is 01:30:35 Hell yeah. You sitting there. When the team, that shit is unlocked automatically. You got motherfuckers. You have motherfuckers out there like, all right, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Hey, hey, hold on. Hey, look. Half a million dollars for the weekend. Shit. Who I got? Who I got? Because even though, like, you're talking about some of the most competitive minds. Greek the Freak out there playing around, too. He only up there.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Joker out there playing around, too. It's not like you got a whole bunch of dudes that don't. You got dudes that take this game serious. The Kawhi Leonard's out there playing around. Steph Curry playing around. Steph Curry, playing around. Like, so it's not... All it takes is for one of them
Starting point is 01:31:07 to not play around, though. Ain't nobody gonna get embarrassed. All it takes is for one of them to... Well, put some emphasis on it like the finals or some shit. That home court shit. Home court, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Yeah. Hey. Yeah. Home court advantage matters. Yeah, it does. Because you want that... To certain teams. Because...
Starting point is 01:31:24 To teams. How many teams is out there that has? Well, because the coaches are there. The coaching staffs are there. Right? Your team in first or second if you're coaching an all-star game, right? Yep. You put that on it, I guarantee in the fourth quarter,
Starting point is 01:31:40 motherfucking coach is going to be like, shit, how many players I got? Y'all two definitely going in. Who in first? You going in. But got y'all to definitely going in who in first you going in But as the contradictions and what's the name so what if I win right if I'm doc and I'm saying all right Dame Dame in Jonathan of course right Java Tatum Jay Jason Tatum Tatum Brooke Then I'm now why the fuck do I want them? That's the problem now who gets home-court advantage if we win me or them?
Starting point is 01:32:07 Well, then you get us a nice Whatever your conference. It's a conference thing, but then you manipulate then you manipulate, you know, I'm Jalen Brown They didn't take him you sit your ass down and I but it just You can sabotage the shit or you can mother you can you I'm a player. I don't give a fuck about the dog anyway. He ain't playing me. Fuck him. You're going to have that. But you got to find something. Put that money, that cash money on the floor.
Starting point is 01:32:35 You're not thinking player. Think about it. I'm out here shooting half quarters. There's half a million dollars sitting there. You're going to be like, hold on, nigga. I'm trying to go out tonight. Yeah. And you fucking up my free money right here.
Starting point is 01:32:48 This is free money right here. Cash. Cash. Yeah, yeah. And I know, oh, y'all got to incentivize them to do even more. Yes. Yep. Why?
Starting point is 01:32:59 Just like you incentivize the go there, yes. Because if you wasn't getting paid to go there and report, your ass would be at home enjoying your goddamn self To watch it on TV, right? So the fact that it's hard to it's hard to really correct something When what is the penalty? Yeah, are the fans still showing up? Yes. Yes. Is everybody still watching it? Yes For now. Oh you complain it. I don't care don't watch it But you're gonna watch it next year So you can play like you've been doing it the last fucking 15 20 years that you've been saying this shit is boring
Starting point is 01:33:33 Every year it's boring every year We know they not to play no defense and y'all gonna be out there watching it the stars is gonna be front row Sitting there the whole time and join watch watching motherfuckers shoot from half court i ain't heard one boo yet in the all-star game you ain't but the people watching the king the people that's there it's about the fans that's watching they watching they everybody watching what they want this is this bullshit caught up cut it back on oh this is bullshit cut it off cut it back right let me if you want the n, boo. Start booing, fans. Why y'all in there and they shooting that? Boo!
Starting point is 01:34:08 Start doing that. Egos start getting hurt. Like, oh, shit, he was fucking booing me. All right, all right. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. LeBron missed most of All-Star weekend getting treatment on his ankle, arriving on Sunday morning. But he met with the media before the All-Star game to discuss his future in the league and how he wants to grow out whenever he decides it's his final season.
Starting point is 01:34:28 I was asked this question a couple days ago. Will you kind of take the farewell tour, or will you kind of just Tim Duncan it? I'm 50-50. I'm going to be honest, because there's times where I feel like I guess I owe it to my fans that's been along this journey with me for two decades plus to be able to give them That moment, you know, where's every city and whatever the case may be and you know They give you your flowers or whatever the case may be, you know, and
Starting point is 01:35:01 That seems cool But the other side of, I've never been that great with accepting praise. It's a weird feeling for me. I never really talked about it much, but it's just a weird feeling for me. So to go in each city, if that's the case, I don't know. I've seen Mike's. I've seen Kobe's.
Starting point is 01:35:29 I've seen a lot of guys. I just don't know how much I, how I feel. I don't know if I will feel great about it. Maybe the only child in me, maybe. But I don't know. But I am a Laker and I am happy and been very happy being a Laker the last six years and hopefully it stays that way. But I don't have the answer to how long it is or which uniform I'll be in.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Hopefully it is with the Lakers. It's a great organization and so many greats. But we'll see. I don't know how it's gonna end but it's coming So Norris you play with LeBron wants some championships with them Do you really think LeBron is 50-50 on whether he wants a farewell tour or not? Yeah because he he really don't like it when
Starting point is 01:36:20 When there's an award ceremony and all the attention is on him Obviously, he knows everything he does is going to get attention from people But when something is like highlighted on him like all everybody at one event is looking at him He is kind of like uncomfortable with that. So I believe you when it comes to that That he's 50 50 obviously Regardless of how you feel he got a he can't just leave the game without nothing though I mean, I just don't see that ever be in a world where he just drop off and be like, okay, I'm done, without no indication. I don't
Starting point is 01:36:50 see that happening. As uncomfortable as he may be with being highlighted like that, I just don't see a world where he just be like, at the end of a season, sending that message like, hey, I'm out. I just don't see it happening like that. I think he's too big for the game, to the game, to go out like that. I think the game owes him a farewell tour because when he's gone, we're going to miss him. As much criticism as he does get, when Brian's gone, there's nobody even playing like him now, and I don't see anybody coming
Starting point is 01:37:26 up that's going to be a player like him. He's like a one-of-one player, so I think we got to give him his flowers. A lot of people eating off LeBron on both sides. Yeah. Everybody. Some people have established their whole career off LeBron hate, thinking about certain, scalatory-looking Caucasians over at Fox. But the game is a game.
Starting point is 01:37:44 LeBron has big business, big industry. Kmart, do you really think LeBron's 50-50 on a fair world tour, or does he want to get sent out the appropriate way for what he's given to this game? I thought it was capital, just the original statement. But hearing him explain it, I believe him. I really believe him. And you can, the way he plays, right, he has no problem at the end of the game giving the ball up, right?
Starting point is 01:38:12 So he's unselfish. So you can see that at no particular point that he, whether it's last year, it's all the attention is on me. It's already, it's on him. He don't need more of it. And I think that's his thing. Like he wants to, I think, in the back of his mind,
Starting point is 01:38:34 he wants to have this moment and it's his moment. I know I'm done after this, but it's his moment and his moment alone. And because he's had to share his self with the world for the last 20 years. And his family, he's had to share himself and his family with the last 20 years, right? So I think if he could have this intimate moment with his family, them knowing that
Starting point is 01:38:59 it's it, and keeping it that way, I could see that as well. And him. So that's why when he says 55th in here I'm hearing him explain it. I Can understand both sides why he's torn because he has guys and people in Homes that he is that they don't think nothing else like LeBron can do no wrong has done no wrong He is what it means basketball is LeBron James LeBron James basketball to a lot of people And he wants to be able to give that to them
Starting point is 01:39:26 I understand that but I could also see like him wanting to just have this moment for him his family so I can yeah Do you think Brian 50-50? Or those numbers a little bit different The way I mean the way he's been treated as a superstar, I think he already has his mind made up. When it's at the end of the season, then he's going to wait until that dead period in the summer and just say, you know, he's not coming back next year. I don't see him giving himself a farewell tour knowing that people didn't respect him when he played the game. For 20 years, this is what you really thought about me. This is how you treated me.
Starting point is 01:40:20 I was struck. I've been trying to fight for something this whole time. And then my last year, you're going to try to give me flowers when I've been fucking knocking for flowers this whole time. I personally don't, I personally don't see him, but you know what I mean? I'm, I'm a fuck you type dude. Right. So, you know what I mean? It's like, you know, when it's a lot of people that love, or I know, but when it's like, I know by loving, no, but what I'm saying, but I'm saying that, but that's that but I'm talking about them that that media that that really That really says I should retire and this and I'm gonna do it and then now let's watch your views Go down going to the next season like I'm not gonna let you prepare for my wasn't him
Starting point is 01:40:57 So you can start running your narratives who's the greatest who's I don't want I don't want you to run your narratives around me when my Like this is what I did and y'all don't risk y'all don't want I don't want you to run your narratives around me when yeah my like This is what I did and y'all don't risk y'all don't respect nothing. I've done I can see that And I also see him Can't go into each fucking arena and call himself the king and there's a fucking throne and each one of them Oh, yeah, I can see that all that. Y'all gonna bow to this motherfucker. I can see that. He don't got that. Hey, I'm just like, hey, who don't have that? He crowns himself
Starting point is 01:41:32 and you didn't do this motherfucker here, so yeah. Bring me my, hey, bring me my crown. I can tell y'all right now. And you know what this crown is, right? The do-rag. Huh? The do-rag.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Huh? The do-rag. I can tell you right now. Yo, will you brush my hair? No, I can tell you right now. Cut it, motherfucker. Do-rag. Because it's definitely going on the statue.
Starting point is 01:42:03 No, the do-rag is definitely going on the statue. No, the do-rag is definitely going on the statue. If he has a do-rag on the statue, honestly, that would cement the argument for me. When you want to know, when he retired, started looking for these signs. He actually plays in every city. That'd be the season where all 41 games on the road he played in. That would be a total- Right, you see his kids at every damn game at home that he's playing in, that would give you the sign that that's it.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Where he, like, he goes to every city, like, you know, like some of them cities he ain't played in a couple years, but he's at every city playing Showing that last hurrah And when you see that I'm like you start watching that like and this nigga didn't played in 22 straight Road games. Yeah, this is it This is it right here. There's somebody figure that out and I'm gonna start averaging 33. Yeah, this is it right here He's going out with a big bang Do you think we see a situation like Tom Brady where he might chuck the deuces prematurely? motherfuckers are averaging 33. Yeah, this is it right here. He going out with a big bang.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Do you think we'll see a situation like Tom Brady where he might chunk the deuces prematurely then miss it and say, fuck it, I got to come back. I don't like the way the game is going right now. I don't see that. There's only one scenario where I could even maybe see that. It's like, maybe if like Ronnie not ready and he's like, I'll take a year off, or I want to retire, but then maybe Ronnie might come back the next year and be ready to go, and that next year might be Bryce, Ronnie and Bryce, and he might have a chance and be like, you know what? I can rev it up one more time. And in that case, I think he'd do it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:36 But once he's done, I think he's going to be done. Because usually I see the preparation that he do now, just to be ready. Yeah, that's what I said. That's like... To stop and, oh, no. I can't direct the rev that back up. That's tough As soon as I don't a you know how like when the season ends on like a Friday Look at his Instagram on a Monday if that motherfucker ain't in a gym he done He done so we got usually 48 hours later
Starting point is 01:44:03 He gonna hit that video back in the gym doing core work. If that video don't come out, God damn it, it's over. Ball head, Brian. Brian. Ball head. Sitting there listening to some music that won't come out for another two months. So we asked the chat, will Brian take a farewell tour?
Starting point is 01:44:19 84% said yes. Over 2,000 of y'all voted, so we appreciate that. So we'll talk a little Draymond. During the interview with NBA on TNT Saturday night, Draymond made this statement. He said, I say there's two guys in the NBA who doesn't have anything left to prove and that's Steph and LeBron. So we're going to play a little game of facts or cap. Tenorius, I don't think you play facts or cap with us. I'm going to ask you a question, ask you if it's facts or cap. You just tell us which you pick.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Steph and LeBron are the only active players with nothing to prove. Facts or cap? Cap. Okay. And why do you say cap? Because as long as you're out there playing, you've got something to prove. The moment you don't have nothing to prove is the moment you stop playing. It's hard to get out there and push your body through what they put their body through and then say they don't have nothing to prove.
Starting point is 01:45:06 First, so Kenyon. It's hard to get out there and push your body through what they put their body through and then say they don't have nothing to prove First of Kenya Stefan LeBron only two active players with nothing to prove Thanks, okay, you dream of a penny is fuck This motherfucker petty shit, I thought you was paid to give Penny what? Fuck a penny. So he just... So you going... It's Cap because he just going to leave KD off because he don't fuck with him. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:45:40 That's crazy. I didn't want to take it there, K-Wopper, since you took it there. What the fuck it is? Yeah, that's what it is. Because why KD want to have it? Yeah, what the fuck it is, goddamn it. Why don't want to take it there, K-Wa, but since you took it there, that's what it is. What the fuck it is? Well, we truth tellers over here. We're not going to dance around it. Well, yes, no. Technically, technically.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Let me hear it. Let me hear it. Technically, it's facts. This is why I say it's facts. Can LeBron, whatever he does now, can he be the GOAT in the majority of people's minds? No, right? So if he can't be the GOAT, then technically he don't have nothing else to prove because they're not giving him shit. I still want to win the championship.
Starting point is 01:46:19 I know, but no matter if he wins the championship. I hear you in that. I'm talking about in this standpoint where it comes to moving somewhere on the ladder. I agree. Like for personal, yes. For the ladder movement, no. They're not going to put him in front of Jordan. So, no, he don't have anything to prove.
Starting point is 01:46:31 I'm with you. Even if he got the six. Even if he got the 12 rings, they're going to say, well, he ain't got 95 scoring titles. Right? He ain't got 95 scoring titles. He didn't win six straight. He ain't going five for 25 in a three-point contest cuz Jordan did that they gonna say they gonna say something Yeah, I'm with you. Right? So no he can't even a step for right same thing with step
Starting point is 01:46:52 Are they gonna put him in front of magic with magic stats and how magic play? No So you got two people who no matter what they do Yeah Old people gonna be like nah, I'm good. So yeah, these are the, right now, the only two people that can really sit there and keep trying to stack and no one's going to budge. There's going to be definitely two, definitely two. Oh yeah, I'm saying facts as well, but I'm saying it's Kyle because he being petty.
Starting point is 01:47:20 Yeah, yeah. Because he purposely left KD off, is what I'm saying. But with KD, it's still... Because he purposely left Katie off, is what I'm saying. But with Katie, it's still... Because that was a deliberate statement. That was a deliberate statement. Very deliberate. Right? You read in between the lines.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Yeah, yeah. That was a very deliberate statement. I understand what you're saying, moving up the ladder. But I'm saying if you're going to play, if you're playing, if you step out there to play, you got something to prove. You know, that's facts, yeah. The moment you don't have nothing to prove, why are you pushing yourself to wake up at 6 a.m. 4 a.m Why are you getting the gym five hours before everybody else? I mean so I mean that but that's what I said
Starting point is 01:47:50 Like I'm just talking about like just for the overall like stats on that totem pole. No one's gonna move them Yeah, you know so it's like yeah, so so came are you staying with cab or have you moved it to fat? No, no, I'm saying like no what he said is factual I'm saying it's kept because he deliberately threw shot at okay. It was Katie looks at himself as that right, okay So he did it was in my opinion. It was a deliberate statement shot at Katie and of course So do you think we still have more to prove there in the time his mind? Oh in the context of what Gil just said though though. In Kevin Durant's mind, no. No, I'm just talking about in the latter. In the latter?
Starting point is 01:48:29 Yeah, he still has more things to do to keep moving up. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. But it's because of where the people view it, right? Which, yes, absolutely. Which is weird. Okay. We're going to take your statement, even though it was factual, but it's capped because he's leaving out KD deliberately
Starting point is 01:48:46 So when it comes to Steph LeBron being the only actor players with nothing to prove Stop the cap. We're gonna stop the cap. Stop the cap. So will the younger generation be the one to actually give LeBron his flowers it seems like they approach and view the world differently. It's tough for us We're a little bit on the older side. We've seen this debate rage on for decades now. It's menace, and they're going to argue until we're black and blue in the face. You say it's the younger group going to be the ones that... See, when you look at these younger guys, they have, obviously, a certain view of LeBron. They hold him in higher esteem because this is what they've seen for the bulk of their life.
Starting point is 01:49:23 We got to see Jordan. We got to see Kobe. Yeah Facts the younger grew it. I mean, that's how they saw they get to see a lot of cold They get to see Mike you can only go by what you see But you see and then they not stupid clearly they ain't stupid again and go back and watch Yeah, which is so we didn't have that it may we didn't have YouTube and a lot of these ways to kind of watch these Guys careers that they have now we just had to take our parents word for it and as some of us know our parents like to gas things up a lot Yeah, and that's that's that I watch when I was a young dude
Starting point is 01:49:51 You know I was you know I watched Mike and Colby no I watched them and I went went back and watched the tapes of magic and I don't to see if What people were saying was so some of the stuff they were saying was hyperbole Mm-hmm mother was hyperbole some of it't. But I had to go see for myself. But you said it earlier, like, damn, where you pull that word from? You know, I went to Cleveland State. He went to Cleveland State. He went to Cleveland State.
Starting point is 01:50:13 He used that free education. Boy, that free education did wonders for you. State College, baby. You said it earlier. You said you went back and watched a movie, and it was juice, and it wasn't as good as you remember. Still a great movie, but just...
Starting point is 01:50:30 Now, that'd be the same thing I'd be saying with the 80s and all that. How come this is just the only era that's sitting here delusional? If we ask all the 80s, can the 70s and 60s and 50s keep up with you did like hell no Right. Well, that's the same thing. Everybody's saying about y'all right? You couldn't dribble with your left hand For most of y'all y'all didn't know what the left hand was right? Y'all didn't have no y'all didn't have for the book
Starting point is 01:50:59 Y'all didn't have trainers They had three people on a bit, you know, they had three people on the bitch They had a stretch now nice for sure that a strength coach. Nope. Sorry didn't have trainers. They had three people on the bench. They had three people on the bench. They had a stretch. No, not a stretch. They had a strength coach. No, sorry, they didn't have that. They had a medical staff, a coach, an assistant coach, right? So they didn't have nothing to improve their game.
Starting point is 01:51:15 We've seen it, right? We can watch with our eyes now and then. Back then, when you were watching TV for the first time, it was like Mario to us We go play some of those games today. Oh shit. This is horrible. How do we play it then when we was in real time? Amazing fucking product, but is it horrible is it just different? It's old. That's the old game It's not that it's horrible. It's different in this different But what I'm saying is is, but Mario is not pretending
Starting point is 01:51:45 that they're better than today. We had our time. It's our time. I didn't know we were near a player in the 80s. I go back and look at one of my college tapes now, and I'd be like, God damn. Right? What color is this? Why is the whole game in this color?
Starting point is 01:52:02 It's bad. You know what I mean? It's just one of those things where I'm like, well, because we know the talent is clearly not even on the same planet, right? We're trying to compare, and the problem with some of the players today, the fact that we do have Google.
Starting point is 01:52:23 We do have YouTube. We can sit here and watch a player and say, yeah, dude's trash. How's he in front of me? How's this dude in front of me? Right? It doesn't look different
Starting point is 01:52:36 because you never know if you get out there. Yeah, we know. It's dudes that's going to be 10 years, 20 years now that's going to look at your family and I'm going to have to remind them, like, hey, hold up. It ain't what it look like. But that's what I'm saying. If you get have to remind them, like, hey, hold up. It ain't what it look like.
Starting point is 01:52:45 But that's what I'm saying. If you get out there with it, I'm telling you right now, it ain't what it look like. Or another way, right? But that's what I'm saying. I can see it in real time. I'm not delusional to...
Starting point is 01:52:55 I can see that, all right, I never had to guard a dude like Steph, a Westbrook, a John Morant. Like, I'm not even going to be delusional. I would clamp them the fuck up. That's dumb because the stuff they're doing now didn't even exist when I played right didn't exist I'm playing against Andre Miller right now. There was nothing not gonna be no you know, uh, you're all stiff nice But he was nice with you. There was not gonna be no euro step There wasn't gonna be no split thrown between legs. No double double step back there. It was not gonna be none of that
Starting point is 01:53:24 So me trying to pretend Pretend that it did exist when I played is stupid. So I got one for you back I'm at the light right you pull up next to me your card And I'm in this motherfucking German engineering over here right I'm gonna blow your doors off boom, right? I'm going to blow your doors off. Boom! That motherfucker, that goddamn Mercedes is going to meow, right? Take that same Mercedes. Evolution. I'm at the light next to a Tesla.
Starting point is 01:53:54 I'm in my bed. I'm in that German engineering. Guess what that Tesla is going to do? Meow. I'm going to be trying to... It just... You take the Shelby from the fastest car in the 80s, whatever it was, it ain't the same. It ain't the same. It ain't the same.
Starting point is 01:54:08 Like it was a great car then. Absolutely. You got that new Mustang, that Shelby, that thing nice. But then somebody came with the Chevelle. That's what I'm saying. We're sitting here trying to hold these standards and you're trying to hold people to standards that just doesn't exist anymore. It doesn't.
Starting point is 01:54:28 And the rules are different that don't allow it to exist. I think you should appreciate these. Like even when your father was talking about. Like most of these people who talk about, put the hand check back in. They didn't realize that when I was speaking to his pops, his pops knew what I was talking about.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Back then, hand checking in the 70s, it was two hands. Yeah, two hands. You could two-hand touch. I can sit there and do this. Two hands on you. Then it changed to the one hand. The 80s was one hand. You know, when Michael Jordan wanted to do the one-two pull-up?
Starting point is 01:54:58 One hand. There's a reason that he can go to the one-two pull-up every single time. Right there. Pull-up. One-two. He wasn't sitting there doing that. Just pump fake. One Right there. Pull-up. One-two. He wasn't sitting there doing that. Just pump fake. One dribble.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Pull-up. Where was the hand check then? Where was the hand check on all these guards getting to the lane? It didn't exist. The game you're talking about didn't exist. Mike's not a good example because his game translates no matter what. But what I'm saying is look at the moves, though. We're talking about just simple pump fake. One dribble. Where there's no, where's the handshake, pull up on you.
Starting point is 01:55:28 It was simple basketball. Why didn't the handshake affect anybody who was trying to score? Now there's just more scorers doing the same thing. But they don't have handshake now though. They do. They don't let us handshake. Yeah, they do.
Starting point is 01:55:41 As soon as the guy face up, it's illegal to touch your hands on him. You can touch him. You can touch him. You can only touch him with his back into the basket or he sideways once he face up It's the hands-off policy in the league. That's the rule. It's a rule. It's been a rule since the 80s Nah, yeah, yeah read the rule book. Nah, nah, we'd read the rule book read the rule I want to bring back him take what I'm saying. Read over this. There's no hand checkers never no defense You can't hand check me. How?
Starting point is 01:56:06 I'm trying to score. Where's your hand check going to do? Hand check can do a lot. Hold me to the side and push me when I'm in the air? Nah, I mean, if you're a defender, hand check can do a lot. I'm coming on a 1-4 flat. Where are you going to hand check me at? What part of my body?
Starting point is 01:56:21 The front of me? Because once I'm on the side of you, what are you doing? You're on the side. You're already beat. Think about what I'm saying I'm thinking about what you say so if you gotta understand if you You are offensive player, right? Mm-hmm If I don't let you get a running start the goal is not the fish Not the game time I just want to play in between As soon as you wait for the one for flat and I do like this and then you try something I back up
Starting point is 01:56:43 It's like that once I'm gone, but once I'm, and I do like this, and then you try something, and I back up just like that. Once I'm gone. But once I'm gone and I get my foot. As soon as you open the big door. As soon as you open up. As soon as you did this, boom, bam. Right? But that wasn't allowed back then. Guards didn't go.
Starting point is 01:56:56 And everybody don't do one-four flat. But that's what I'm saying. On the side, in the mid post, that does a lot versus hands off. This is how I knew defense was bullshit. There's an ESPN six years ago, Baron Davis and Isaiah Thomas. Isaiah Thomas teaching the defense on how they played defense back then.
Starting point is 01:57:20 I saw that. Right? Yeah. I'm sitting here. What he talking about? This is this this is his Block arm. This is this arm hold the rifle He's over like so he's doing this and then he said he reaches with this hand He said he goes through the he said he goes through the body. He goes through this way
Starting point is 01:57:41 What day but that made sense because they didn't go this way. They went sideways. So this made sense. If I got to sit here and wait for the guard, I got to wait. It's easy to go. But if I'm sitting here attacking, you open up, right? And then once I go this way, right, and you're on that, and I go to pull the jump shot, what hand you got to go with? I go with this.
Starting point is 01:58:02 He said he got to go with this. Look at you, goofy. That's impossible. That's impossible. How you going to be sitting here playing defense, with this boy he said he got to go with this goofy that's impossible that's impossible you don't be sitting here playing defense go this way and then try to come back come on man I don't want to like come on and y'all wonder why we start laughing at y'all motherfuckers man our job is to get y'all to twist y'all hips once you twist your hip here comes the snatch back here comes the Hesi's we are watching defense perfecting the offense so the deep is you're talking about I'm gonna reach in all right reach in
Starting point is 01:58:31 Okay, I caught your whole body Wow. I caught your whole body goofy Like there's a difference There's a reason that people are playing deep as a different way because of the rules like we're watching you gamble inside get do all this inside gambling But the but back then they had no moves. Oh Shit now, but I don't silver said stop stop stop stop Gil stop God forgot what my love We watch come on Like we don't have YouTube.
Starting point is 01:59:06 Chill, chill, chill, Gil. Run it down. Ah! Lost ball. Motherfucker on the racetrack. Man, what? But Adam Silver did say they took rules out to make it more offensive. He said that they got rules in place to make it less physical.
Starting point is 01:59:22 88-89. He said that's what he want. No, I said Adam Silver said now. And now we have 400 points. We got to have some of the defensive rules back in play. That's all I'm saying. Yes, the players are talented and some are going to score more, but it's getting out of hand.
Starting point is 01:59:33 And the rules ain't going to help motherfuckers that don't want to compete. So I don't fuck with them. You're right about that. No rules. I mean. That's because they're getting so many. Kay, earlier you said Draymond was taking a shot at KD by saying that only Steph and LeBron, the two active players left, with nothing to prove.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Well, Charles Barkley took an actual shot at KD. During the All-Star Game outcast, Barkley made headlines talking about the Suns. He said this about KD. He said, quote, Kevin's a follower. He's not a leader. He's proven that on all of his stops So the interesting that Draymond played with Katie didn't say anything when Barkley made that comment to come to the defense Of a man who helped that Warriors dynasty win two championships Getting two finals MVPs in the process
Starting point is 02:00:16 Is it fair for Barkley to question Katie's leadership? All right, he said is it fair I All right. Is it fair? Mm-hmm. Go. I mean, yeah, it's fair, but I don't think you can take away from KD's greatness of who he is. But, I mean, was he the leader on Golden State? I mean, was he the leader in Brooklyn? Was he the leader in OKC? You know, so I think it's fair
Starting point is 02:00:46 I just don't think that that was the right time to say it like why say that it's All-Star weekend like KD didn't say nothing about him like it was no reason to provoke a negative KD comment there was a lot of stuff said about the weekend from some of the older gentlemen on the roster it's fair yes but like should you have said it
Starting point is 02:01:02 like no like KD ain't KD don't want to do nothing but just play basketball. Let that man play basketball. Now, if he say something outrageous, then you say something. But KD ain't really said nothing outrageous recently, so leave him alone. Enjoy All-Star, man. KD, was it fair for Barkley to call KD a follower?
Starting point is 02:01:19 Nah. You don't know what kind of leader that man is you ain't ever been on the team with him you ain't ever been in the locker room with him you don't know how that man lead like people call you a follower charles but you went to think trying to win the ring you went to houston trying to win like so you following people like you're not're not? Let's stop it. Like, we... I said it before, and I understand.
Starting point is 02:01:50 People have, like... When it comes to certain people, people have memory like an elephant. Or... They short-term memory kick in real good. Like... So... No, you don't know, like, that man can lead in his own way. We should just start calling Charles Barkley, uh, Larson Pippenden.
Starting point is 02:02:14 Who? Because, I mean, last time we checked, I mean, you was following up Jordan, too, like a little hoe. Right? Everything Jordan did, Barkley was there. Right? Barkley Gamble. I mean, Jordan Gamble, Barkley was there right Barkley gamble I mean Jordan gamble Barkley was there all right he playing in the playoffs Jordan won't do something Barkley was there Jordan wanna go to Vegas Barkley was there Goffin Barkley was there right so you followed Michael Jordan your whole career you ain't no different in Larson Pippen trying to get some of that Jordan blood now let's go back to your history Wow let's go back to your history and your history is this Wow sir let me just make
Starting point is 02:02:51 sure that I remember this right you got drafted to Philadelphia right he wasn't getting the money that he was promised in Philadelphia so he need one be there right he did okay. He did well. And then he asked for a trade. Now, he asked for a trade. And the team he wanted to be traded to, which was the team that went to the championship the year before that, which was the Portland Trail Blazers with, um, um, what was that, Drexler and them?
Starting point is 02:03:22 They went to the championship. That's the team he wanted to be traded to so he was chasing a ring cuz you know He figured that Drexler can go at Michael Jordan a little bit, you know, not a whole bit But just a little bit and then I oh there's a little bit not the whole But he could and then he can he can add to that to take over the bulls So he wanted there they rejected his ass cuz anyone no parts of Charles Barkley So Charles Barkley goes to the Phoenix Suns, which if you look at the Phoenix Suns record at that time They won 50-something games every year four years straight They were so good before he got there that he was just plugged in and he went to the finals and won an MVP
Starting point is 02:04:01 Because how good that team was so He was chasing the fucking fucking ring himself even back then. See, we all know about the Houston, right? We know about him. That was at the end. Yeah, because he didn't get a ring in Phoenix. When he was chasing the ring in Phoenix, then he went to Houston Rockets trying to join that team to try to beat Michael Jordan and the reason they failed
Starting point is 02:04:26 because he was overweight and out of shape, right? The reason that Houston didn't win, not because they wasn't, because the guy that they brought in you was not in shape, was blaming everybody else for not working hard and being in shape while your big ass was over there on the bike complaining about everybody else. Oh, I heard all the stories I asked. So when you call somebody a follower and not a leader, let us know which team that you led or was leading. Being the best player on the Suns, you didn't lead. That team already had captains and it was already established before you got there. You bailed out on Philadelphia and you wanted to try to win a ring.
Starting point is 02:05:16 So whatever you have this grudge with someone like Kevin Durant, you need to look back at yourself and look back at your fucking career because you followed back then. You was not a man on your own. Yeah, you had the personality, but there's nothing in your resume that had you as someone who was leading something. You always tried to run to go chase something. Even if he's not, though,
Starting point is 02:05:40 even if he was that leader, it still wouldn't be right to say what he said because this is a celebratory time. So even if he was the leader that leader it still wouldn't be right to say what he said This is a celebratory time So even if he was the leader that he maybe he think he is or whatever That's still ain't the time to say it like my friends celebrate like this is all star like Don't do that. Well, I'm not the type of guy be like Let's say you didn't accomplish something and you say something it don't matter that you didn't accomplish what you was talking about I don't care about that, but
Starting point is 02:06:05 Say it in the right spirit at the right time like if I don't provoke you to say that why would you say that in? It's a celebratory time like it's no this is who you are you're miserable You know you just got the vendetta gets his man for no reason are you just so you are But the vendetta on the is the vendetta on the same thing you did as a player Yeah, absolutely Absolutely really wasn't winning you wanted out to go win you tried to go to the second you didn't want to go You didn't go to want to go to Jordan. So you Went to the team that was in the championship
Starting point is 02:06:36 So, you know if Katie went to the Warriors they were in the championships You went to you was trying to go to damn Portland who was in the championship. They rejected you So you went to the Suns? Right you you're chasing Houston championship championship, where'd you go? Houston And you wasn't championship you didn't have a championship mind at that time That was the problem. You wanted a championship, but you wasn't willing to sacrifice for the team that was already there.
Starting point is 02:07:12 I see why you don't talk about your Houston days. But I look like the hater because I want to remind you of who you were. No matter how great you were. He was great. No, no, no. This ain't about greatness. This is about following who is a follower. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:32 Yeah. Yeah. What'd you say? What happened? Why Michael Jordan talk to you? He was mad. My friend is mad at me. My friend is mad at me.
Starting point is 02:07:43 Jordan, stop talking to you, goddammit. You just stop talking to Jordan. You probably sent all that shit with some Jordans on, goddammit. Why did he sign that Nike deal? Because of who? Yeah, Michael Jordan, I know. But he want to call people foul. Man. Not the right time, Chuck. Not the right time, Chuck. Not the right time, OG. That wasn't the right time for that. Man, man. Let it be known.
Starting point is 02:08:11 Willis. I still love your shoes, though, Chuck. Them Barclays. I was a Suns fan. Listen, I was a Suns fan before him, but when he came, I had the jersey 34 with the Suns backwards you put that foot sir that way so this way There you in a baby sons and sons yeah
Starting point is 02:08:35 But I just want to let you know like follower Look in the mirror same person they can can't one's a two-time champ Can't erase what we were Slapping backboards on the high-rise. It's just a lot of things that in movies that we love growing They were slapping the backboard on the high-rise. Yes with no protection on the other side of it But let's keep this thing moving one last thing to talk talk about. Some unfortunate news for Jack Vaughn. On Monday, the Nets fired head coach Jack Vaughn. Vaughn was in his second season with the team. He was 21-33 this season, which was good enough for 11th in the Eastern Conference.
Starting point is 02:09:16 They went into All-Star weekend suffering a 50-point loss to the Celtics. The Nets were 71-68 in the regular season and 0-8 in the playoffs under Vaughn. Thoughts gentlemen? I mean come on man, talking about LA legend. What did they expect? I was going to say the same thing, like what would they, what do they think they're supposed to be? Andy has a winning record, that's like, good would you like that's your team Like that that's that be my problem sometimes when coaches get fired like we need to start asking Hey, what do y'all expect should a package deal? Huh? Go ahead. These that's what it was No, no, I'm saying it should be a package deal human owner. No the fucking Sean Marks like with
Starting point is 02:10:01 owner Jim Jim Jim. Yeah, you picked him, but that's but that's what that So this year's the football normally, yeah, but I you the peck out ass up together I don't have like I would have been in there like like hey, hold on I don't have a you know when I when I was getting a job out this kid had KD I had to get the new KD. I had to harden here, I had Kyrie, I had a lot of good ass pieces here. Right now, yeah, this is what I got. Got Ben Simmons. I don't know, Ben Simmons is coming whenever he comes, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:10:36 So what do you expect my team to be? What's reality here? I don't think some of these general managers are known to live around. I think sometimes when they start seeing 10 game losses, we lose the streak. We lost by 50 to Boston. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:59 You should have fought a little bit harder, but last game of the season, had these motherfuckers on vacation. Boston, they got all their starters. They're number one. They might blow you out by 40. I wouldn't be surprised. 35, lower than that. They got to start challenging themselves.
Starting point is 02:11:15 Who are you going to bring in to replace them that's going to make them better? Nobody. You see the struggle with Doc's team, and Doc got a nice team. This team has less. Who's going to come in and go supersede that? I'm fucked up thinking, bro. Let them coach themselves. That man went on vacation and they was like,
Starting point is 02:11:35 yeah. Yeah. Why don't you stay a little while? Yeah, we're going to need you to give you a few more days, man. Sorry, man. On that one, dog. Sorry, man. We ain't going to be needing your services.
Starting point is 02:11:55 I hate to see black coaches get fired, too. Especially unjustifiable when the team, there's nothing that can happen that's going to make the team better. Like, who's going to come and make that team? Exactly. Getting that bag So hey, but what's the difference? I guess between nine and waiting two months. It's not the season Still got Pam. That's what say you still got a break bread. I don't these these these these these guys is like they
Starting point is 02:12:18 They they panic They panic too much like I lose six seven eight ten games in row, and I look at my roster and say, yeah, that makes sense. Yep, that makes sense. There ain't really shit we got on this roster that's going to change anytime, you know, anything, anytime soon. Right? Sometimes your roster is your reality. Making a change now.
Starting point is 02:12:41 A coach comes in. They go on a 3-4 game winning streak, right? Now this motherfucker talking about, I need a raise. I need a raise. And, like, now you got to figure out if you want to keep him or bring in a whole nother coach that you got to pay more money to. Like, I'm sorry. Listen, if I spend $40, $30 million on the coach,
Starting point is 02:13:04 God damn it, I'm going to get every dollar out of him. He's going to work you. Listen, I can tell you this. Just like this. With coaches, what they're doing is like in the NBA when they come up with the amnesty rule. I don't know if y'all been. I've been amnestied.
Starting point is 02:13:20 I can tell you this right now. The only time I was worried was those 11 days where a team can pick me up Now come on, please don't pick me up. Please don't pick me every day got it I'm only looking not to get picked up because I know what I'm clear money's Free money. Yes Free money free money then is that a Who do need to play on their heart? I'm gonna go Memphis. I'm looking for a plan
Starting point is 02:13:49 What y'all talking about though? 700,000 Worked a little bit more, but I can take say I can take an extra 700,000 From that you got amnesty. No, I got an $700,000. That's what I got out of that. Right? So whatever they did got me $700,000 more than my contract said. Right.
Starting point is 02:14:13 And same thing with coaches. The two coaches you still owe money to, you think they work, they're getting paid to do nothing. That's a dream job right there. You know, Fisdale said when they fired him? Like, shit, I'm going to go home to my beautiful wife. And, hey, man. When his contract goes off. Collecting from the first to the 15th for three more years.
Starting point is 02:14:35 I think about my, look, I think about a job when this money ends. Two years from now. Making top, top dollars. You think if Doc get fired right now, he gives a shit what you... He gonna go right back to where he was brought to. Hey, yo, hey, sorry, miss you for a couple weeks. But, uh... Yeah, I hit the lotto.
Starting point is 02:14:57 I hit the lotto wrong. You know, Bucks is good. They was good to me. Y'all is stupid. I'm you. Y'all is stupid. I'm sorry. Y'all is stupid. I'm going to let that motherfucker. I'm going to let him coach.
Starting point is 02:15:11 We all went 20. I'm not replacing you. You're going to be on 40 something. God damn it. That's you. That's you. I'm not. It's like a dude getting beat by 50 and trying to get kicked out the game.
Starting point is 02:15:19 Now you're going to take his ass over with you. I need to get the whole interview for the job. Fuck it. Why not? They hired him. I ain't. Shit. I ain't in it. Shit. Let with you. I need to get the whole interview for the job. Fuck it, why not? They hired him on the... I ain't, shit, I ain't in it, but shit. Let me know when you need to...
Starting point is 02:15:29 Damn, so Kevin Alley's been named interim head coach. Okay. So I say, hey, Alley, I mean, he's the same. It's gonna be the same. Ain't they the same profile? They're the same profile. They're the same profile. Same profile.
Starting point is 02:15:41 LA legend. I hope they go on a 20-game winning streak, goddammit, and he be like, I need to throw that million. K.O. was my teammate with the Nets. He used to pick me up full court. That was his job. That was his job. I know.
Starting point is 02:15:53 Bro, you ain't got shit else to do? You ain't got shit else to do? No. You want to put me in turbo mode already, huh? Yeah, buddy. And I used to tell him, I'm going to be in turbo mode, turbo movies, I'm trying to score, right? If you don't want me to score, you might want to sit back there and just play docile.
Starting point is 02:16:07 Motherfucker want to get up. Makes me want to score. Now, I don't want to pass the ball because I got to prove a point to you. Yeah, but. He didn't listen. Did you prove a point? I wasn't listening either. But he got tired more than I wanted to be.
Starting point is 02:16:22 All right, well, let's keep this thing moving on to Mostly Fans, our last segment of the day during this President's Day post-All-Star weekend. As always, if you want to get down with Underdog Fantasy, go ahead, download the app, use promo code GIL. They will match your first deposit up to $100. We need your help. As you can see, we're fighting a war right now. They are trying to cut our internet.
Starting point is 02:16:41 They do not want you to see this beautiful show that we call GIL's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Charles Barkley was in the neighborhood earlier. GIL, he knew you was going to cut our internet. They do not want you to see this beautiful show that we call Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Charles Barkley was in the neighborhood earlier. Gil, he knew he was going to say some shit. And he's following us. He's pulling. He can't even think by himself. So we got a video question from Underdog user I Know G.
Starting point is 02:17:01 What's up, Gil's Arena? I love the show. My question is, if y'all can pick two teammates that y'all can play your whole career with, who would it be and why? Thank y'all so much, man. Keep killing it out there. So if you could pick two teammates that you could play your whole entire career with, who would they be and why?
Starting point is 02:17:27 Brendan Haywood. The legend. Deshaun Stevenson. Why do you pick those two, Gil? Because both of them play defense, so I don't got to play no defense. Deshaun don't want no shots, so I get to keep shooting. And then Brendan's going to set picks, and I don't have to pass on the ball, so I can shoot all the shots I want to shoot.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Because he didn't say nothing about trying to win. He just said, who would you rather? I'd rather have 50, 75. So what are the two teammates, Gilbert? You're trying to win. Oh, trying to win. I said, to pass the ball? Should I go Jerry Jeffries? No.
Starting point is 02:18:04 I'm trying to win. All right, I'm going to go with Dwight Howard and Antoine Jamison. I thought you were going to go CB, but... Oh, the only reason... The only reason I would, but if
Starting point is 02:18:21 I do pick and roll, you know, if I have to take myself out I'll do so like a CB was not a toilet bird option But when I left he was the number one option which that's why I'm off a competitive shit All right, girl, but a competitive I know that's why I said so it's either me or him Okay, two teammates you could play your entire career with Probably Two teammates you could play your entire career with, who would you pick? Probably, damn. He had a shitload.
Starting point is 02:18:49 Good ones. This is probably J. Kid and Mello. We got you back on the show Wednesday, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, J. Kid and Mello. Some Mello situations going on. I was going to say Johnson, Melo. You know, you got one that shoots and all that stuff. You got one that passed the ball.
Starting point is 02:19:17 That passed me the ball. Yeah, I'm going to go through. Yeah, because the other guy going to shoot it. Melo going to shoot it, so I need somebody to pass it to me. So I'm going to go with J.K So I'm going to go with J.K. I'm going to go with J.K. and Melo. Norris, two teammates you can play your whole career with. Man.
Starting point is 02:19:33 That's tough. I have some pretty good teammates, man. I'm going to pick one from two different teams. Obviously, you know, playing with Brian, that was cool to play the whole career with him. That would be nice to see the journey from start different teams. Obviously, playing with Brian, that was cool to play the whole career with him. That would be nice to see the journey from start to finish. And then Drew Holliday. I played with Drew in New Orleans. He was hurt a little bit, but he was coming back. Drew was just the ultimate teammate. And as a guard, it's nice
Starting point is 02:20:00 when you have another guard that can play off of you. So he can play on the ball, off the ball. I'm a good defender. He's a good defender. So I think his personality as a teammate in the locker room, so it would probably be Drew and Brian. But it's hard to pick one because playing with UD is like having him as your teammate on the court and off the court, just how he is as a big brother, that was cool. And then Jawan Howard as an OG, he was cool too. He introduced me to the league. He put me on game on how to recognize things on the court, off the court, how to
Starting point is 02:20:36 establish myself as a pro. Just because he challenged my list. Are y'all playing? No, is this three? Are they going to play? I said my first two. I said Drew and Bron. Oh, okay. Because when you start going down the list and you said...
Starting point is 02:20:54 No, he said Juwan Howard. Did I say Drew and Bron the first time? No, no. But you said when you mentioned Juwan Howard out of the way, you're going to put him in the game? I gave him shots out. I gave him shots out for being good teammates.
Starting point is 02:21:06 Okay, guys, I was like, you know, she was like tippy. I know that. Don't disrespect my OG like that. No, I was just going to say, you know, he was calling me up guard. I was like, wait, hold on, you going to put him in the game? I prefaced my statement by saying being a good teammate. Oh, like moral support. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 02:21:22 Juwan, if you're watching this show, good. Hey, shout out to the OG, man. You know we got to play right. Moral support. Yes. Don't want if you're watching this show You know, we got a play right I'm off support more support. That's it. I would love to have Chuckie at yous but Put him in the game James on the motherfucking. I'm a blank kid I see a mellow a kid Over here doing moral support Good team it already lawless and I already already took L's when I said my first lineup
Starting point is 02:21:55 Yes, I was just thinking about shooting this shit. I got a for you sick Way AD and drew like it soon. Okay. when we talk about compete, I'm like, let me go in here and get big fella down there. If we playing a game, I'm going with Brian and D-Wade. OK, for sure. We going, you know what I mean? Well, that's a good place to start.
Starting point is 02:22:12 On this Monday, President's Day. Who you going with? Yeah, come on, man. College. No. You had some great college friends. I didn't rock with them. I figured.
Starting point is 02:22:19 No, I'm just kidding. What about your college teammates, though? Who? College. You got two in college that you would pick, though? Earl Watson, for sure. Mm-hmm. Earl's a legend. Undisputed. You got some good college teammates? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:22:25 Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:22:25 Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:22:25 Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:22:26 Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:22:26 Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:22:27 Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:22:28 Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:22:28 Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:22:42 Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Who? Nah, he was the year before. Oh, okay, that's what I was talking about. BD, so BD was gone. Yeah, BD, all that crew. Okay, that's what I was like, oh, hell no. Okay.
Starting point is 02:22:48 Shout out to Jaron Rush, the hooper. Yeah. He was an extreme major. He was still around when you came in, right? Jaron Rush. Mm-hmm. He was still... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:59 Mauricio and all them. Yeah, no, they was all gone. It was my year. That was your year? It was my year, Jaron. We had Dan Gazzarri. Dan Gazzarri. What? Seven? Yeah. Yeah, now there was all gone see is my year. Yeah, he was my you're drunk. Yeah, we had a bang bang as a reading You think you're dry? What seven? Yeah, we're not yeah draw Moiso. Oh, so who's I drive me? No, we had Gaza reach Matt right?
Starting point is 02:23:15 alleges Yeah, some ledges Dan Gaza reach We will save that for another show there's been another episode of Gills Reader presented by Underdog Fantasy we'll see y'all Tuesday
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