Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To To LeBron (almost) Joining The Warriors

Episode Date: February 14, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To To LeBron (almost) Joining The Warriors as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew discuss the basketball bomb that was dropped earlier this morning stating that The Golden State Warriors tried to make a deadline deal to bring the king to the bay and pair him with Steph Curry & Draymond Green for another championship run. They also break down Draymond's EXPLOSIVE words for Kevin Durant and debate if Dray needs to be kinder to Durant who carried him to 2 rings. Finally they break down some impressive wins across the association including Shai Gilgeous Alexander leading the Thunder to a comeback win over the Magic and the Miami Heat putting the Milwaukee Bucks in a prayer circle after a beatdown without Jimmy Butler. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:06:38 Happy Valentines Day!! 0:12:17 Pippen & Jordan Break Up 0:24:38 Draymond's Ongoing Battle With The Suns 0:29:10 LeBron (Almost) Joins the Warriors 0:40:24 Daryl Morey Tried To Trade for LeBron 0:53:32 Kyle Kuzma Turned Down A Trade To The Mavs 0:54:35 PJ Tucker Sent Home From Clippers 1:29:09 SGA Is Gil's Pick for NBA MVP 1:46:58 Can Thunder Be Trusted In The Playoffs? 1:52:01 Heat Culture vs Doc Culture 2:00:16 Who Should Be The Bucks #1 Option? 2:08:48 Higher/Lowers 2:15:24 MostlyFans 2:34:12 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Simping. It is Valentine's Day. Sorry we took so long to start. We were talking about video games. You know how that goes. How y'all doing? Y'all all festive and dressed up? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I see y'all got the memo. I was going to wear blue. But the work confirmed last minute. We're going to dinner tonight. Going to dinner tonight. Going to dinner tonight. We'll wear red then. Fuck it.

Applebee's. Applebee's. Not tonight. Not tonight. Not tonight. You got a two-gift for Applebee's on? Oh, you got to take it all the way. You got to go all the way. You got to go all the way. You got to make sure.

Dessert and everything. Outback Chili's. Yeah, massage the whole night. Because tonight is not. This is Gilderina presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What's happening? That pink salmon with it.

Pink salmon, fuchsia. Okay. You know, just try to... I realize, man, they don't... At the mall, they don't really have things for... Valentine's for men. Mm-mm. So...

Mm-mm. Yeah, period. Shit. That's the six-fold. I was like, red. I'm like, red, pink. I'm trying to sit there and I gotta go through every department store to get some shit that looks like it came from the 60's. This shirt look like I'm on that 60's show or that 70's show.

The decade, not the rolling. There was a memo to wear red but due to to familial obligations, I am not allowed to wear that color. We got Rashad McKenzie back here with us as well. Y'all know how to go. Work related. It's all work. We're supposed to have one more person on the couch. I see.

Where is Lexi at? Lexi! Yoo-hoo! I'm here, guys. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. That's some very guys. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. I have some very gifts. Uh-oh.

Oh. Since y'all don't ever get nothing for Valentine's Day. Oh, thank you. I brought you little roses. Oh, thank you. I was going to make bracelets, but I didn't have time. These are functional. You busy.

We appreciate it. I don't have a Valentine, so I decided to just share the love. Well, there are several gentlemen in the chat already asking for your Cash App. We appreciate it. I don't have a Valentine, so I decided to just share the love. There are several gentlemen in the chat already asking for your Cash App. Mm-hmm. OK. Mm-hmm.

If you would like one. Lexi Cash App is no chill gil. Ain't nobody in that chat can afford nothing but Applebee's. So they better stop. Nah, they got to team it up. You crazy. They better stop. Why are you not going to Applebee's, y'all?

Because it's a different type of holiday. Go against everything you stand for. It's a no boo type of holiday. You going against everything you stand for right now? Yeah. This is the drop the bag on it. This is drop the bag on holiday. Drop a bag day.

Is it no boo or no boo? Not just a Thursday. A regular Thursday we're going to have a boo. It's just a regular Wednesday to me. Okay, for some. Well, happy Valentine's Day to all who celebrate. You and your significant others, we wish y'all well. But here's what's cracking in the arena today.

Draymond clapped back at Nurk and KD, but is there no love lost between the former Warriors teammates? The Thunder are a game out of first in the West, but are they for real or fugazi? And the Warriors tried to make a blockbuster trade for LeBron to give Steph more help, but LeBron said no thanks. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. It is Valentine's Day. Surprise your significant other by downloading the app using promo code GILDIL and they will match your first deposit up to $100. That is a free $100 you can get as a deposit match by downloading the Underdog Fantasy app.

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So let's talk about what love got to do with it. Valentine's Day goes back nearly 2,000 years when a dude named Valentine out there there trying to preach the good word, was martyred by Roman pagans on February 14th, 269. Has nothing to do with love. Yeah, he was trying to spread the word. They were not feeling it. Hollered back. Killed him to see him. Hollered back. The skull allegedly

somewhere in Rome in one of them chapels or something right now. When did the little naked babies come into play? See, this is what women do, right? They turn the man getting killed into their holiday. Love me. Did a woman start it? So, glad that you asked, Lexi. The modern tradition of expressing love didn't come about until the 14th century when a man, an English poet, gentrified the holiday

to make it a designated day for simping and giving affection to loved ones Writing love notes letting people know what it is trying to get you sure okay trying to get some somebody stole somebody shows some ties So gotta ask the couch do you celebrate Valentine's Day or is it just another day for you? Lexi, you? I enjoy Valentine's Day because I like the colors and festive, but no, it's just regular. I feel like if you're with the right person every day, it should feel like Valentine's Day. See, that's my sentiments as well.

Yeah. Rashad, do you celebrate Valentine's Day? Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead do you celebrate? Go ahead. Be mindful. It is a day of love. No, I'm just saying I don't think she got the memo. Of what?

You know, Valentine's might not be your day. Side chick day tomorrow. Oh, yeah. No, I'm just saying the 15th might be your day that you just probably ain't got side Boop side boo Valentine's Day is February 15th No, the main girl gotta get the 14th. Uh-huh. The other ones can get the 13th and 15th. I know so what's up with you today? I don't have anything

Can't be putting yourself in the category. See, he's trapping you. He's trapping you. I don't have any days, because I don't got anybody. Hey, fellas. Hey, listen, listen, listen. It's just me and Cannon, OK? Fellas, that's a good Valentine. Everybody listen. Cannon's a cool, cool kid.

Candy is half off starting tomorrow. Right? That's right. Half off. Teddy bears, everything half off. So side chick day tomorrow, you get to give more for your bucks side chick day is insane But I celebrate I celebrate I celebrate all three goddamn

Yeah, the 13th the 14th and the 15th. Yeah What's the 13th also side chick day, huh? That's that's that's new side. She knew that No, no, no work. No work. I mean are you trying to still impress them? So you want to give it to them early? Oh, man You invented $35 eggs you invented new side Man a man of the people shit Lexi the producer won't mean to let you know you said you said you were booed up and now we're gonna get an influx

mostly fan videos the news Does playing their love for you? Mm-hmm? That's what she wanted. I thought she wanted Lexi needs a rebounder Yeah, he's a rebounder they show I'm gonna be out in to be out of L.A. in a few days, so bye-bye. Date show for Lexi. Absolutely not. For the love of Lexi. For the love of Lexi. I'm telling you, it's going to hit, Lex.

They're going to show up to the game and everything. Ideas are already churning. Oh, yeah. Jesus Christ. Do you think Gil won't show up to a sparks game with like 20 20 eligible bachelor's? Make the best sign yeah, you can come out decked out in the most sparks gear. I'm with that see you go See they gonna buy extra tickets We can bring the most people with them. Mm-hmm. We already have a dude with the username Lexi's husband. There you go.

That has sent a request for your love. So we're already getting it started. Rashad, do you celebrate Valentine's Day or is it just another day for you? I think you answered that before we got into this. I see you decked out. I mean, Gil kind of put it in perspective. I hadn't had that kind of clarity before. One, two, three.

And for me, it's new work, current work, and old work, you know. And I never really had to celebrate it because it was all grouped up. You know what I'm saying? You just send out the text messages all collectively. You know what I'm saying? Just make sure the roses

are sent out appropriately to the right address with the right name on them. Sometimes they fuck up the delivery. Very confusing. You know what I'm saying? You know, Susan get it, and it was for Amy. You know what I'm saying?

They're white-ass names. Yeah. Susan and Amy. And Karen. And Karen. And Karen. Do Ling Ling? Does Ling Ling get it?

Yeah, what about Ling Ling, man? Ling Ling gets the 9 o'clock service. We go to Ling Ling at 9. She gets the everyday service. That's guaranteed. Since it is Valentine's Day, an important question to ask. What's the appropriate grace period

before going public with a relationship? How much time do you need to be dating somebody before you make that official announcement? Like, on the Internet? On the... Never. On Al Gore's Internet? Never.

Why do you say never? The important people will see us together and those are the only people that really should know. Mmm, interesting. Do you agree or disagree? Never. There's some savages out there. There are. Like Gil's a savage.

Gil's a savage. He's like, well, that's your work. My first time loving. Oh, that's your work? No. I'm going to go right into that DM. No. Let me test your love for this figure. Let me make sure you loving my boy the right way.

Ah! She was over here yesterday. She was over here yesterday. Let me make sure you wife material. That's a horrible line. So no. So no. Yes, never.

Golly. That's brotherhood. That's brotherhood. Brotherhood. Brotherhood. Brotherhood. Brotherhood. Brotherhood. Brotherhood. You white material Don't wipe it now come on man of the people this is gonna be a good day on gills are represented by underdog face I can already tell Get what's the appropriate grace period before going public with the relationship? Do you want the relationship to last?

There's a difference. I mean, you can go in there and do it whenever you want. But last then? Yeah, you're going to have to keep your personal life off the Internet. The Internet is for entertainers and trolls. If you're on the Internet taking that shit serious, something's wrong with you. For sure. So if you're sitting there going,

why you don't post me? Because I'll actually like you. I actually liked you, but should I post you? Cool. For sure. Should I post you right now? Shit. Let them see your little ugly ass face

and then all the DMs about to hit. That's what you with? That's who you picked over me? Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Comments. This is our stalking you. People are mean online

and miserable. Very, very disrespectful. But I mean, I feel like, the way I feel about people who post their relationships, they either,

they're trying to like make somebody upset somewhere and it doesn't really have much to do with it. Validation, likes. Yeah, and I'm like, for what? I think sometimes

when girls, they want you to post them To see if any negativity comes back No, it will You gonna see how cute you not Protect your peace so I'll be looking at some I'll peace. So I'll be looking at some of my, I'll be posting something, I'll be looking at some of the comments, like, ooh, you bold.

You bold. Then they start stalking, hitting each other up. Then they become friends, going out to dinner, taking selfies and shit together. It's traumatic. Oh yeah, it sounds like a personal story. It's happened many times. Fucking hinge dates was like sounds like a personal story many times Fucking hands dates. You're all about it. I did so much the works. I actually did that dating. I mean, uh,

Like friend each other and try to like I'm stupid. Well shit two for one Two for one. Y'all both miserable. Come on over here For you. I got something common any goddamn way. I had them both in the same house on my birthday. Flew them both out. There we go. Teachers didn't want to get in bed together. And proceeding. What gift should a pro hooper expect for Valentine's Day? What gift? Oh, the same thing that the regular men get. Nothing but the same old thing we're going to get just in better lingerie. the regular men get nothing,

but the same old thing. We're going to get just some better lingerie. That's it. Great conversation. Okay, I got it. Great conversation. I agree. Yeah, that's it.

That's all we're going to get, fellas. Lexi, what is your expectation when you are entangled or in a relationship for Valentine's Day? I would like a spa day or something, like a massage. That's fair. Burke Williams? Don't matter. I'm in mid-off-season, pre-season mode, so a nice little massage or something would be nice.

That's fair. So we have an audience question. We have an audience question on the subject of Valentine's Day. What's the most awkward date you've been on? We can't hear you. What's the most awkward date you've been on? Be nice. We can't hear her.

I haven't been on any awkward dates, honestly. You never had an awkward date? No. I did. I also don't go on many dates either. There's that. Rashad, an awkward date? No. Yeah, I did. I also don't go on many dates either, so there's that. Rashad, what's the most awkward date on this glorious Valentine's Day? Me and the gym, you know, okay?

I don't want to say her name, because she's... Don't say names, please. She's pregnant and with somebody right now, but it was her and her mama showed up to the date. I didn't know which one I was gonna take down. Ooh. Never had that problem, but that's a nice little problem right there.

Yeah, it was unfortunate. But congratulations on your pregnancy and marriage. Mr. Arena... The best Valentine's Day I've been part of. I think I have a feeling. I think we all were privy to at least one of your awkward dates. But what's the most awkward date you've been on? Usually the awkward part of it is me.

I mean, because it's me trying to figure out how to offend her and see how far she's going to go. Because in my world, I feel like I do the opposite of what they're expecting to see if they can handle it. Yes. That's my nigga right here. So I'm the one that's going to be to see if they can handle it. Yes. Right? That's my nigga right here. So I'm the one that's going to be on the phone. So dates are a test. I'm going to be the one on the phone talking to another girl.

Yeah, I'm that one. I do that. That's rude. Yeah, I know. So I actually was, it went viral where I was on a blind date talking about the girl in front of me. Talking about her outfit. Oh, no, she was, no, no, no. I was on a blind date talking about the girl in front of me. Mm-hmm. Talking about her outfit. Oh, no, she was, no, no, no.

The outfit was trash. She, Queen of the Moon, I believe, was, whoo, she was smoking. I ain't gonna lie. What is this video? I was thinking live Twitter back then. I was live Twittering, yeah, talking about, you know, the outfit. Oh, you were on a date,

and you were on Twitter tweeting about her. To finish, though, how'd she find out? She found out. She went to the restroom. I guess her friend. Good for her friend. You think that stopped her from... You think that stopped her?

She got mad and all that. But reality did kick in. That is Gilbert. That is Gilbert. So she didn't leave? in. That is Gilbert. So she didn't leave? Leave? You dumb dummy.

I would have been out of there. Leave? What's your contract? What's the biggest contract you signed? I was on 111. You're not leaving. I'll be out of there. I had a little leverage. I had about like 10 years of stuff like that. You know, I mean?

You know, we only get dumped after our careers are over with. Yeah. But as soon as that contract is the last game, oh, farewell, come home, divorce papers. Like, oh, shit. Damn. Damn. Shit.

Wasn't expecting this. Time's up. Time's up, goddammit. How you treating me is the payback I won't have. Here's a direct quote from Gil from that blind date. OMG, I thought she was the queen of Zamunda. Zamunda in all caps. Damn. Her outfit was that bad?

It was like leopard print striped down. Real African-ish. Real African-ish. Nothing wrong with that. Put it like this. She didn't look like how she... Like, if she had the mask on and we see the outfit, oh, canceled.

Canceled. You'd be like, oh, ooh. Jesus. So, let's keep it moving. White lady wearing Zamud and stuff. Come on, man. No, she was black. So, this Valentine's Day might be down to participants.

According to People Magazine, 49-year-old Larsa Pippen and 33-year-old Marcus Jordan broke up during Super Bowl. Wait, did you say 33? 49-year-old Larsa Pippen and 33-year-old Marcus Jordan broke up during Super Bowl weekend. According to People Mag, they have decided to take some time apart to reevaluate their relationship. This has nothing to do with any family input, but solely for their personal growth. So before the split, the couple was talking about marriage, with MJ being designated as the preferred best man at the wedding. Naturally, when this news broke, the internet did its thing. Big!

Shout out to Big. She's going to be at All-Star Weekend with a spreadsheet. Yeah, Big! Shout out to Big. She's going to be at All Star Weekend with a spreadsheet. Yeah, Big! My girl! Hold on. That's a girl? Count on Big. Yeah, that's her profile picture.

That's wrong, dear, because she is 49. Who are you talking about? Larson is 49. She's not going to be at All Star Weekend. Grandma's not going to be at All Star Weekend. Grandma's not going to be at All Star Weekend. She's going to be at the Tom Joyner Fantastic Voyage trip, and that sold out this year for 2024. Her ass got to stop for 2025.

That's the age group she in. Nobody looking for no 49. Wombat. Except for me. Wombat. Except for me. She gonna be at the club with her kids? What?

You don't get your hot ass out here, Ma Dukes. She might be there. Ma Dukes, come on, man. Why do, what? What time do you have? You are 49. Whatever you trying to reconsider,

trust me, by the time you finish, you're going to be 50, right? He's 33. He's done. He's done. He, whoo, he. Hey, listen. He's talking to you. Stella got her groove back.

When? By doing the electric slides. You feel me? I'm going to electric slide. Me and Future have been plotting how to get to Mrs. Pippin. Listen. I just got your chick in my Gucci flip-flop. That's it.

She about to just be smashed all year. She's 49. Ain't nothing. There's no wife here. Bill, never say never. Her wife years was 23 to 47. That was her wife years. She wanted out.

She's single. Ain't no 33-year-old. He want kids. You are a kid. Free. You done. You ready to mingle and tingle. These are work years.

See, she had wife years. Now she in her work years. Yeah, she in her work years. This is work stage. She's entering the workforce. What's after work stage? Retirement? Retirement. You got to retire. She ain't worked yet. She's entering the workforce. What's after work stage? Retirement? Retirement. You gotta retire. She ain't worked yet.

She never worked. She ready to work. You don't think that was work? Yeah, she tried. She was trying to work. They just was talking too much publicly. Like we was just talking about it. Yeah, they was talking too much. Nobody want to hear from y'all too. Keep it on the down low. This is a basketball

show. She's basketball. The moment they down low. Jesus. This is a basketball show. She's basketball. The moment they brought MJ into it. She's all basketball. You're talking too much. Too much. You're doing too much. That was weird.

Basketball. Y'all starting to... Malik Beasley. Oh shit, I forgot about that. Tristan. Yeah, Tristan. Yeah, she's balls balls. Damn. Damn.

Dover. This is Gil's arena, so this is what you've come to expect by watching the show. They didn't go. I'm just saying. She's balls balls Nova this is gills arena. So this is what you've come to expect I'm just saying but this is going out to all them old body bodies out there all y'all look body bodies It's over. It's over for y'all. Just let him go. Okay, just retire Y'all should have stayed with the news that was treating y'all like shit then these 25 27 year old They don't want you. They're going to do it

because of your name and you got pipping in the back, whatever. They're not wifing y'all. But listen, listen. 33, that was the, 33, oh my God, that's still ill. Yeah, yeah.

But I'm almost 40. I got time today. Look, I'm 42, and 33, I'm like, ah. Yeah. Ah. You know what I mean?, ah. Yeah. Ah.

You know what I mean? The expectations are still too high. Right? 33, he wants kids. You ain't trying to be no mother. You ain't even a mother now. Damn. And let's move on to legitimate basketball topics. Damn.

That was legitimate. Damn, Gil. Shit. She going to be at the Laker game. She going to be at the Laker game about to get Austin Reeves. Austin. Hey, let me daddy. Do not do it. Let me daddy.

Listen, she Austin Reeves or the owner. That's it. Those are the two options. Damn. Lambert, shit. So, moving on. The owner. Oh, shit.

Sorry. Nobody's better. The owner. Oh, shit. Sorry. Nobody's better at being Draymond Green than Draymond Green. During a recent episode of his podcast, Green reflected on his 16-game suspension for slapping Nurk, their recent rematch, what he told KD after the Warriors win on Monday, and his feelings about Nurk and Durant saying he hopes Dregas the help he needs. I think all of it was cowardly.

I think, you know, you start going and questioning somebody's character in front of the whole world, it's whack. So I think they're all whack, both of them, if you want my honest opinion. But that's that. Everybody was questioning what I said to KD um at the end of the game this is me it's me and um i'm not gonna share the other word that i said because you know that's a spur of the moment type of thing you're in the game and um you know words come out but this is me i do this been doing this gonna keep doing this which is the same thing i

said in that clippers game years ago been winning championships been doing this gonna keep doing this when you leave here didn't lie got fined a whole game check which was like 160000 for saying that. Fast forward. Wasn't a lie. But that's what I said. And all of that was a little brewed up, a little built up tension because, again, you go question somebody's character, you got my phone number. If you thought I hope I get the help that I need,

you got my phone number. Hit me and say that. So like I said, I thought it was all cowardly. And that's where those emotions came from. I'm a four-time NBA champion. No regular season game really gives me that hype to win a regular season game. But it's a little added tension there. God bless Player Podcast.

Nurk responded with the following tweet. He said, all good, bad boy. Just don't stay too long on podcasts. Going to be late for therapy sessions. Damn. It's a bar. His tweet with his accent makes me laugh. How you tweet with an accent.

That's crazy, right? Damn. Right in his accent. It makes me laugh. You tweet with an accent. That's crazy, right? The jam. Right in his accent. So how are we feeling about this situation? Because I feel like Draymond does make some valid points. I'm happy he flexed in his championships. He's never really done that before. So it's nice to see him doing that because he deserves to

because everyone else gets to flex their championships. Why can't he? I have a question? It will Smith get criticized in front of the world after he slapped Chris Rock. Yes, he did Slapping the shit out of Chris Rock at the Oscars. Hmm. Okay, so it's warranted right when you do some stupid shit in front of the world Your character is on display, right? It's normal, right?

It's normal. But then you're telling KD that we don't need you, we can win without you. That was before the slap. I understand. But it's a part of the history of KD feeling the way he feel. You need some help, bro. So it's just kind of like, it's ironic

that he feels some type of way about people pointing out the things that the world has seen over and over again. I feel bad for the guy that he doesn't take accountability for his actions. It's unfortunate. I was with Nurkic when he got slapped. Right? Because he was a victim then. Right? He was a victim to Draymond Green.

I can't say he's a victim now. Right? He sounds like an agitator. Absolutely. Right? So now, if Draymond slaps you now, I'm pretty sure no's gonna give a fuck at this point you got fight back because at this point you are doing Everything in your power to get him to slap to get him to slap Yo, you're slapping the floor you're doing all this you're saying he needs therapy I take shut the fuck up like that

That's one thing Chris Rock didn't do Yeah, Chris Rock didn't go around Aggravating and trying to pretend like you sound like you a tough guy too right at this point So now it's just like well if Draymond hit him again, we don't really care it is what it is right and that's that's the feeling I'm getting like Like even in a slap it in the floor. I'm like, okay, all right, you're a little there. Slap him on the booty. But then after the game, we just watch what you did.

And then you go to the game and be a victim. Oh, why is he still here? The brother ain't learned. I feel sorry for him. You're the one out there now're the one out there now like being the aggressor yeah and that's the only thing I don't like in this situation

you know KD you know he gonna catch a stray anyway yeah right you know that's just is that new tension though? no wasn't they just sitting together

at the fucking at the Olympic shit? that's basketball tension that's just on court tension just like KD and Russ right basketball tension. That's just on-court tension. Just like KD and Russ, right? It's just, that's that on-court, you know, that battlement that they just can't get rid of. But that sounded like shots at KD.

Like, coward. You calling me a coward where you could have texted me the way you felt. You know what I'm saying? When you said the shit you said. Well, didn't he say that initially when he was like, I didn't appreciate when KD

said I needed to do this? But then he was like, but once I thought about it, he like, that means he was caring about me. So I'm like, what changed? Exactly. Some kind of tension changed. It's about, you know,

it's that Hooper. That heat of the moment Hooper spirit, man. My question is this. If KD actually catches the ball and scores that basket, does that change Draymond's energy? Because he got that stop. Yeah. Against Phoenix, right? I mean, yeah.

He can't run his mouth like that. If KD hits it, it might be the reverse. Yeah. You know who I am. You think KD's got it? You know who I am. This is what I do. This is what I do. This is what I do.

So he just got lucky there. You know, I feel like getting that stop for Draymond made sense for the energy. Like, yeah, fuck that. I'm a me, nigga. And Nurk didn't have a good game either. Right. And Draymond had a pretty... That's what I said. It's like, I won.

We won this game, and y'all got so much to say. They won. He played well. Nurk played horrible. And he got that last stop. And he got that last stop. It was pretty much like all four of those things had to happen for Draymond to have this much energy. I feel like if one of those things didn't happen, he would have had energy, but like, it was a bit much.

Yeah, that's what I said. It was the perfect storm for him to flex. So it wouldn't have been no podcast after play? Hell no. If they lost? Nah. If they lost. I think he would have still got the spot. If he played well, maybe.

I'm still a four-time champ. But he would have talked the way he was talking? But that four-time champ is meaningless when you take you take a L you can't just that doesn't that you can't Just run to your rings when you get an ass Oh That clay that shit didn't age very well You gotta wait you gotta wait before you pull out the... I mean, obviously, there's good reason for Draymond to be insulted by KD's comments in the aftermath,

but KD is largely responsible for this Warriors dynasty. Two chips, two finals, MVPs. Draymond played a big role in recruiting KD to come to the Dubs. We all remember the story about him crying in the car after LeBron came back from a 3-1 deficit in the NBA Finals. Made history on the 73. He was crying in the car? Huh?

He was crying in the car? That's just a story. I'm just a host. Who was crying in the car? I'm pretty sure. Grandma. Grandma. But very emotional, very passionate.

So LeBron was Debo and took his chain? No, I think he was more upset that they were 3-1 and then that suspension shifted the series. So all that blame was going on him. He probably... Damn. Yeah, that hurt. I ain't going to lie.

That kind of probably hurt because no one realized how important at that time Draymond was. Yeah, until he got suspended. Right, until he got suspended. I think he was like a minus nine. So when he's off the court, the spread is minus nine for that team. So if they was averaging 120, with Draymond gone, they had 109, 111. With Draymond, what, 32-15 in that game seven? Three assists. I mean, what I'm saying is he led in every category but scoring.

Scoring, yeah. So when you take him off the court, they was going to lose the next game. The next game, you know, he's coming back from suspension. He's 50-50 Draymond because he can't really do anything else. Right. Or there ain't no game seven. Game seven, he gets to be fully Draymond, but the tide has swung to Cleveland. Yep.

You know, so I'm pretty sure that kind of hurt him right there. And just in defense of Draymond, Draymond said that that was an exaggerated telling of the story, although he did recruit KD to come to the Warriors. But should Draymond be more appreciative to KD for helping build this Warriors dynasty? I don't know if appreciative is the word I would use. Just maybe more respectful of it. I don't know.

Because, like, Draymond obviously was a huge part of those championships as well. So I do think they still would have have won with Katie or without Katie, but obviously with Katie they were just different so my question is Did the Warriors win the year before Katie got there? They were 73 and 9 that season Reached the NBA Finals did have a 3-. We're on the precipice of winning a championship. Then LeBron James and the Cavs rattled off three straight wins. The most disappointing of all time.

Including a Game 7 win. And then here comes... In the World Cup arena. Savior. Here comes Superman. Yeah. Here comes Superman to save the day for two years in a row. And it's like, hallelujah.

So you don't think they would have won at least one without KD in that two years he was there? No way. in a row and it's like hallelujah so you don't think they would have won at least one without kd in that two years he was there no way you needed him to get past lebron i was the only x factor in the west that could compete with him there was nobody else six nines six six eight six nine lebron versus six eleven slim reaper sniper you need that that's the only thing that could 6'8", 6'9", LeBron versus 6'11", Slim Reaper, Sniper. You need that. That's the only thing that could combat it. Now you look at LeBron now compared to Steph.

It's like you still don't got nobody to compete with LeBron. Yes. So it's like, what do you do? That's why they try to bring him back. That's why they try to bring LeBron. That's because it's like KD over here with them. But they don't got the Stephs and the Clays down in Phoenix. So that is a beautiful segue, Rashad.

Apparently what you try to do, according to Woj and Ramona Showburn, is try to recruit LeBron to come to the Warriors. They dropped an article this morning detailing how the Warriors tried to make a blockbuster trade for LeBron before the deadline

with Draymond Green convincing Warriors owner Joe Lacob to holler at Jeannie Buss after LeBron voiced some recent frustrations with the Lakers, including this tweet, as we all remember, the hourglass that he put up, I believe on his way to Boston about 2.26 in the morning, Eastern time. Or January 31st. So Jeannie wants her superstars to be happy. Reached out to LeBron's agent, Rich Paul, who also is the same agent as Draymond Green, about the move.

And on the eve of the trade deadline, according to this report from Roger Ramona-Schoberg, Rich Paul told Lakup and Warriors GM Mike Dunleavy Jr. LeBron was not interested in becoming a Golden State Warrior. Why do you think that is, though? Is it the storyline don't match up and it'll fuck everything up because I've moved three teams already? Or majors?

Because it looks like I'm ring chasing. How do they keep this under wraps for so long? You know, I'm always curious about timing and why things go But story was reported very convenient Valentine's Day who was in the package deal. That's a very good question Rashad I'd imagine that a minus step. We're not because they were I'm pretty sure They got the chase I'm pretty sure the whole damn team got to chase the whole fucking thing. I'm pretty sure that They're not gonna say who you were gonna trade. Oh Because it didn't happen you don't wanna

Let all those players over there know that yeah, we almost got y'all to fuck up out of here I'm like there's literally there's not very many Play like there's a hand from players on that team that you're like that's probably me We look at the money on the Warriors if we we go to Hoops Hype, shout out, they have a great salary feature that breaks all that down on sport track. Most likely it would have been Clay. Kaminga. Kaminga and Wiggins, most likely. Just looking at the trade scenario, though, you're like, damn, Bron,

this would be the second time you went to a super team scenario. That wouldn't be a super team because they traded everybody out of there. It was just him and Steph. It ain't no super team. If we consider these the only two mega stars we got left. Then you get rid of Klay and Kameo. What do you have? Hear me out.

Hear me out. And Wiggins. And Wiggins. What do you have? Hear me out. Two mega stars that are left in the NBA on the same team. Yeah. Two megas.

35 and 39. Megas. The storyline looks crazy. It looked crazy for you to go down there with D-Wade and Chris Bosh. It looked crazy for you to come over here with A.D., Dwight Howard, Rayjean Rondo, all of these guys, and you win a chip. Now you go play with Steph? That's crazy.

A ring is a ring. Fifty years from now, nobody knows. It's crazy. It's crazy. Today, pretty sure back then, the shit that was going on was crazy then, and we don't bring it up now, right? Because half the stuff, no one remembers. That's because half of the world is LeBron fans now.

That's why. No, we just think about the end result. We just get to the punchline. The punchline is rings or not, right? I'm pretty sure when Jerry West was going year after year, losing in the finals, people was making fun of him today. I mean, back then, right? Now no one really, he got to be the logo so.

I mean any logo. So why would they say no to the trade? Why would LeBron say no? Yes. He's happy where he's at. He's happy what? He's happy where he's at. What was the clock for?

We don't know. Get rid of them. Huh? Could have been anything. But look, so we didn't look at the interviews? When he was sweating, he was. I'm glad I didn't say what I was going to say. Thank you for the. He did do that, Rashad. What's up?

That looks like frustration to me. That could have been delayed on the flight. That looks like frustration to me. No, no, you're frustrated with the team because you're not in position to win. But if I'm getting traded to the Gold State Warriors and Kaminga's gone, Klay's gone, Wiggins gone. He in a worse situation than me? The fuck do I really have? Just me and Steph and Draymond?

We're not winning a championship. Those three is just not, we're not winning a championship. So what situation am I in? Like, if you're going to keep that whole team and I'm just gonna go? I even asked this, is it legal for him to take a pay cut? Like let's say he's worth 50 million, right? Is he legally allowed to be a max player going into, we know he's worth 50 million going into the open market. He says, I'm gonna take a million dollars. Is that what we talked about last season?

The new thing that they put up? No, just like, okay, I want to go to, let's say I want to go to Boston. And I say, I'm going to sign to Boston for $1 million. I don't think he can legally do that. Vet minimum? I don't think he can take a vet minimum because he's not a vet men type of player. So I don't think the league will allow him to do something like that, but he is cuz he's nice He meets the criteria of a vet. No his numbers do not creep. Yeah, what cuz it's not about

It's not about numbers. You're so about years. No your years. Oh, you you can't go your contracts set up, right? Cuz I like what once you hit like Unrestricted free agency you can sign for, right? Because once you hit unrestricted free agency, you can sign for whatever, right? Yes. Technically, but no. You still have an open value in the open market, right? But that's set by your agent. No, that's set by the market.

So when the open market comes, they'll say, all right, they have a list of free agents, right? And they rank the agents. So if LeBron is ranked number one as the free agent, which is the max player, right? And they rank the agents. So if LeBron is ranked number one as the free agent, which is the max player, right? And then he takes a million dollars. Oh, he would mess up everybody else. But that doesn't mean that it's illegal

or he can't do it. It's illegal. You can't do it. I asked this morning. You cannot do it. But again, what about guys who take less to help the team out, right? Yeah, but what is they like, so if I'm worth... Russell Westbrook did it. He took less. But what is he worth going into if I'm worth if I go to Russell Russell Westbrook did it? Yeah, yeah, but took less But what is he worth going into the market? He's not worth max. He was worth more than what they gave

Oh, no, but that's I'm saying we don't so who sets the worth. That's what I'm saying It has to be the negotiation your your bus is definitely worth more than what he's made. Yeah, he's worked Yeah, he's worked for like what I'm saying is if he's worth public Said no if he's what I saying, if he goes into the market and he's the number one option, worth $50 million, that's LeBron James, worth $50 million, and he goes and says,

I'm going to sign back for $1 million, $2 million, there's going to be an uproar from every single team. Because think about it. If they freed $50 million, he comes back with two. Think about what they can do now. You can...

Yeah, especially as I said, I can offset... That's like basically manipulating the side of the cap to make a really good team. And you're not allowed to do that. But haven't we seen, historically, players take less money, take below what their market value is, maybe not as egregious a number as that, and then get that bread slid to them? Yes. And that's what... Yes.

But that's what wouldn't change with LeBron. If I were worth $20 million and I'd take $15 or $12. That's not as big of a deal. That's not as big of a deal because that makes sense. You saying you're worth $50 and take $1 or $2? What the fuck is going on here? What y'all doing? What y'all got going up y'all's sleeve?

There's going to be an open investigation. Is he getting paid in the back end? Because any smart... But he can say, I don't need it. Yeah, he can. But they're going to be an open investigation. Is he getting paid in the back end? Because any smart... But he can say, I don't need it. Any... Yeah, he can. But they're going to probe. But you don't have to take $1 million.

He can take, like, what? $1 million? Let's do Clippers. Let's do Clippers, right? How many free agents are running out with the Clippers? Going into this free agency? Yeah. I mean, you got Paul George, who still has a player option.

Okay. Harden will be a free agent as well. And beyond that, you know, I can tell you names, but you're probably... No, Westbrook can opt out too, right? Westbrook has an option at $4 million. All right, now think about if I'm Bomber. I'm the richest owner in the NBA, not even close, right? Which means my money is fuck you money.

And I sit here and say, all right, look, PG your free agent, sign back for a million, whatever you sign I give it to you on the back end. I give it to you off the salary cap. Kawhi, no, James Harden, same thing, what do you want? Sign for one million, vet men, vet men, boom. Russell opt out, let that money off my salary cap, right? Sign if it wasn't him, give it to you on the back. I can give it to you off books.

I can give it to you off books. Who's going to catch me? I give you three off books, same amount of money. Now my salary cap is freed for me to sign three people the same. There's like, obviously there's rules in same. There's like, so I can keep those three. That's there's something. There would be investigated.

I mean, obviously there'd be investigated. Make a rule like that. Yeah, but I would, I would. Yeah, so I can sign,

I can, I can give you money without giving you money, but I can just write checks. Yeah. I don't need to use it. So now my, my salary cap fucking, the thing about I lost, what is PG making? He'll be making somewhere in the ballpark of 50 million. God.

49 million player options. So 49 million come off my cap. James Harden money comes off my cap. Russell Westbrook comes off. Now if that comes off the cap, think about who I can go sign now. I'm all for chaos, as you already know. That's what I'm saying. You can't...

They're not going to allow that. Hell no. But according to Mark Stein, reportedly there are at least two teams in the NBA that believe LeBron James would consider signing with them for far less than the $51.4 million I think he's scheduled to make next season if Bronny James is on the roster. Ah.

That makes more sense that he wouldn't want to do the trade because of that. So wait to see if Bronny gets drafted. But, I mean, you don't even need to draft Bronny. Even if you don't draft Bronny, you can sign him as a free agent. You can still sign him, yeah. But he's getting paid throughout the rest of the season. Who? Right? Bron?

Yeah. So at the end of the season. Who? Right, Ron? Yeah. So at the end of the season... He can opt out. He opts out, right? Opt out of $50 million. Now he can change the dynamic of all of that. He can change the dynamic of all of that. All of free agency.

All of free agency. All of that shit we just talked about goes out the fucking window. And it's like... If guys start taking a lot of money... No, that's what I'm saying. That's exactly what happens. He can go into free agency. He can go into free agency and say,

all right, hey, Boston, you draft my son, I'm coming. Vet men. That's what I'm saying. Vet men. Whoever does that, and he comes there with averaging 25, he makes the first team. He does all these accolades, and then he shifts himself to vet mim. Or it ain't even got to be Boston, you take my son.

It's whoever takes my son. And I'm a free agent until he gets drafted. No, but what I'm saying is any team that will be drafting his son, you're talking about late first round, second round, that's going to be like the Bostons, the Milwaukee Bucks, teams like that. And I still don't see him putting himself in a small market. But if he's capable of winning a trip, Gil.

Going back to Cleveland. That's what I'm saying. No, Cleveland not... Going back to Cleveland. Bronny getting drafted to Cleveland. He would mess up free agency for everybody if he did that. It fucks it up for a little bit.

I think if Donovan Mitchell goes to New York, boom, boom. Get Donovan out of there. Bron come back. We end it here. End it where we started it. Interesting. What I'm saying is, you don't need to get rid of nobody. With Donovan, he's going to go anyway.

That's what I'm saying. He can go to Sons. If he's coming in as a free agent and he can take whatever he wants, you're talking about a guy who can really change. He can go to Denver. The money don't matter at that point.

But that's what I'm saying. It's going to be a rule where they're going to say, hold on. You just can't do this. Remember what Rich said, though. When Rich was on the couch, he was like, the reason we picked L.A. is because of the challenge. The challenge attached to it. Which is, we wanted to fit into this legacy and see if we can bring

more prestige to the legacy. The challenge, they got the chip, the bubble shit, you know, the ring pop, you know what I'm saying? Accomplished. Alright, so what's next? You said the ring pop. I'm just saying.

I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. Bam said it was the hardest place to play. Even Bam, he didn't win. Bam is a reliable human being, a man of great candor and demeanor. But let's highlight another story or another little tidbit that was in that Woj and Ramona Showburn story. It also detailed how Sixers president Daryl Morey reached out to Lakers GM Rob Palenka

before the Warriors inquiring about a James trade. According to the article, after seeing James' cryptic social media post of an hourglass a week before the trade deadline, Philadelphia 76ers president of basketball operations Darryl Morey called Palenka to probe on a James trade and was immediately told that James wasn't available. In fact, Palenka responded by asking Moreury if Joel Embiid was available, sources said in that conversation. You wanted to get LeBron with Embiid?

No, he's saying LeBron's off the table, but you trying to get rid of Embiid? I got it. He was like, what a stupid question to ask. I got a few pieces I can give you for Embiid. Embiid and LeBron, ooh, shit, we good over here. Shout out. Squares are reporting.

Now, that's funny. That's so interesting. All right, well, let's talk about another move that could have happened at the deadline. You know what's so funny? If you AD, you looking at that, like, mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? Like, little shit like that, what you mean?

Now, you asking Bam, who? That's Rob. Who, who? Rob. You putting me at the fold? 30 Rob. 30 Rob. Who who? You putting me at the fold? Dirty Rob. Dirty Rob. Dirty Rob, man.

I'm still... Rob a dirty motherfucker, man. Should be Defensive Player of the Year the way he's playing this season. We appreciate what you're doing. Let's talk about another trade that almost happened. So Kyle Kuzma was one of the bigger names on the trade market before the deadline. But when given the option to get shipped to the Mavs or stay with the Wizards, he decided to chill in Chocolate City.

In an interview with Josh Robbins of The Athletic, Kuz broke down the details on his decision to stay in D.C. He said, Wizards president Michael Winger presented me with what the trade was and obviously didn't want to trade me and kind of left the decision up to me a little bit and asked me what I wanted to do. I told him I wanted to stay and continue to build something. And that was kind of the end of it. Kuz went on to say that in my career, I won a championship. So I understand when we play this game of basketball, it's not about contending for a playoff spot. It's about contending for an NBA championship.

There's only like three or four contenders, true contenders. I just felt like our timelines didn't line up So this is a little different than what Kuz had said earlier in the season when I wait what what timelines he told me Hold on. You're coming a timeline is Washington. Oh Nigga, fuck. I think who's basically saying that he didn't feel like the Mavs would be contenders even with him The Mavs would the Mavs won't be contenders even with him. The Mavs wouldn't be a contender with him. So essentially, I'm not going to go... Okay, let me just try this as a basketball player.

I'm not going over there to be option three when I'm option one right now. That is basically what I'm saying. The timeline is I'm option one right now getting all the shots. I'm not going down there and being behind Luka and Kyrie. Is you crazy?

And I already got my ring. And Tim Hardaway. And Tim Hardaway. Hey, watch this. Ain't that what I said about Brunson? What did you say about Jalen Brunson? How the fuck would Brunson go down on any other team if he's number one? He's the number one option.

That's what you said? Basically, yeah. Didn't I say that he is not a number one option? He is in New York. And that's why they won't win. That was the whole point. That's why he wasn't paying attention. That's what he's saying.

They ain't going to win either. He's like, why would I go over there to Dallas? He said there's three contenders. Dallas wasn't one of them. So what am I doing this for? Which I can agree. Yeah, I don't want to Dallas three contenders. Dallas wasn't one of them. So what am I doing this for? But I can do this. Yeah, I don't want to be honest Why am I gonna be out before on a non-contended team when I'm already on a non-contended team? And I'm option one. I don't want to be on a I don't even want to be I

I'm about to be a free agent pretty soon. Right? So He coo signed a four-year 90 million dollar deal with the Wiz last summer So let me give you guys a little bityear, $90 million deal with the Wiz last summer. So let me give you guys a little bit more information that's specific to this particular discussion. Because we talk a lot about winning versus getting the bag. So he's in his seventh season, won a ring with the Lakers 2020 in a reserve role, got traded to the Wizards in the Westbrook deal, started every game that he's played there, signed that four-year deal, which ends 2027.

But that deal includes a 15% trade kicker. So if he would have agreed to the trade of the Mavs, he would have got 15% more of his bread on top of his salary right now. Yeah. But the problem is, the back end of it, I get 15%, but then I'm a third, fourth option the whole time. What is my value in the marketplace? You're 10 now when you become a free agent in 2027

because I think his deal has no team or player option. But the thing about the Brunson thing, the Brunson thing wasn't about if Brunson wants to go. I'm saying if you want to win a championship yourselves as an organization, Kuzma can't be your number one. Brunson can't be your number one. I'm saying if you bring somebody over,

having Brunson as your second or third option, oh, you motherfuckers is good. But I was speaking from Brunson's perspective, not the organization's. Oh, I'm saying I speak from Brunson's. It won't make sense for Brunson to go anywhere else. I'm the number one option in New York. Why would I go to somewhere and be three or four

just for the sake of... No, I'm not recruiting nobody. I'd be like, hey, Brunson, we looking for this player. I need you to call him. I got your boss. Shit. I got you, boss. What did he say? Oh, he said not right now. I'm done.

I'm the number one option right now. We're in the playoffs. I'm averaging 27, about to beat all-star, all-NBA. Max me. That's all I was saying. You were speaking for an organization. Yeah, I'm speaking for an organization. I'm speaking for the player.

The player? Hell no. The player, nobody want to be number two. So let's talk about in our Kuzza situation, because the Wizards are one game ahead of the Pistons for the worst record in the league. But Kuzza's averaging 22 points a game, six rebounds, four assists.

Like I said, his bread's good until 2027, and he has the opportunity to be the guy on this Wizards squad. I don't really know what that means, but... What that means is I get to shoot all the squad. I don't really know what that means, but What that means is I get to shoot all the shots. I get average about 20-something. When I go into free agency, give me my 150, 200, whatever

these numbers is worth. Give me that. Once I get that, hey, you say you want to trade me? Is that math deal still on? Is that meal day on the table? You're 12. So he needs that next contract. It was still on the table. That meal was on the table. You're 12. All right, that means it's on. So he needs that next contract.

Because it was a dilemma I was weighing in my head if I was him. Yeah, you go to the Mavs. You're not that third or fourth option. But you do actually win, have the opportunity. I'm just saying, you're getting the bread guaranteed already until you're 10. But now you're 10, you might be shit out of luck. Man, you see what this is. You see what they're doing to fucking Clay Thompson right now.

Yeah. Exactly. Four rings. Yeah, we a year we go to you To get them WNBA contracts Like No. No, I'm just saying that's what they do. I'm sorry, Lexi. How about you say like, G-League contract? G-League, leave me alone. Goddamn. Now they be having y'all, I'm just saying. You got me sweating.

15 years. They be like, damn, that's my whole life. Hey, where's the, get your microphone and talk to us. That's my whole life. I don't even know how to work this. This thing is violating you, dog. That's my whole life. The microphone has a lot of buttons on it.

That's why. Goddamn. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying, that's my whole life. That's my whole life. That's my whole life. That's my whole life. That's my whole life.

That's my whole life. That's my whole life. That's my whole life. That's my whole life. That's my whole life. The megaphone has a lot of buttons on it. That's why he's over there. But even for Kuzma, it's like, yeah, it would make sense for you to wait to get the bread. Hell yeah. Because what happens is he gets lost in the sauce in Dallas immediately. And then you get that next contract extension and it's like it don't make any sense. Because you got lost. You're behind Luke and Kyrie.

So let's say it was at least in Koo's opinion, would be a true contender. Man, let's know. I'm just saying if one of those teams were Listen, he got 90 million. Right? And to him, he's playing up to that contract. Right? No matter whatever

the record is. He is playing up to it, like, because he's not the franchise guy. What's funny is when Jordan Poole went there, they had Jordan Poole in front of him. Unfortunately, he still gets to be the guy on the team. Beal left, Poole is not playing very well, so he technically is the franchise dude right now. I'm not giving that up.

How? Like, think about it. This is one whole year of him being the number one option. Like, I'm the franchise guy. Like, shit feel good around here. You going to the club. Kuzma. Hey, hey, hey. Got my girl. Got a supermodel

on my arm. They're not doing that to them right now. She crazy. Keep getting booed at home. No, no, no. They ain't booing right now. Got a supermodel on my arm. They're not doing that to them right now. She crazy. They keep getting booed at home. No, no, no. They ain't booing right now. They booing. Not him, but they booing. It's cool. Yeah, I was going to say.

They booing. They booing. They booing. They booing. Y'all don't really know what's going on over there with Joy Poole, huh? Y'all don't see what's happening? No one cares. That nigga packed that shit up.

He said, you know what? Check's in the mail. I Don't give a hell. Hey, it's tools living Jordan pools dream right now Here's the pool made similar comments and going to where know what I'm saying is Jordan pool said it at the beginning We try to pretend that was it. Yeah, you know my legacy is already stand Him and his parents had a whole conversation. Are you sure you won't do this son? Yeah, fuck these niggas I ain't got to do shit. I ain't got to do shit. I can pack it up. Him and his parents had a whole conversation. Are you sure you want to do this, son?

Yeah, fuck these niggas. Shout out to my nigga, Barron. He gave me the lowdown. He went to the game and he said, the nigga fouled out. He fouled out. In 25 minutes, I believe? No points.

He said, bro, he looked like he didn't give a fuck. He was just fouling just to foul. Wait, he fouled out? Zero points. He said, bro, he looked like he didn't give a fuck. He was just fouling just to foul. Wait, he fouled? Yes. Zero points. Zero points, 25 minutes, recent game. Six fouls. What?

Who was he playing? I can't remember. Memphis, I think. It don't matter. At home. Memphis. Zero points. Marcus Smart?

At home. No, Marcus Smart. He hurt. Who? Who was on? Fouls. Fouls. When John left, I... Cleveland.

Cleveland. Cleveland at home. Well, I mean, I feel like he did, like, what Sean was just saying. He was like, I'm sick of this shit. Yes. So get me out of this damn game. Direct deposit. But it seems like Poole made those comments going into D.C.

and took on a literature bro initially. Kuz is actually living that dream right now, putting up the 22 a game, watching you get booed. Like, I'm shit, I'm good. Boo this man! They start the booing, you got them to go, come on, keep it going, yeah, yeah, yeah. He hooking them. Hey, listen, Poo couldn't have been on our team in the Wizards, bro.

We would have enticed him. We would have enticed him to booing. Then he over there getting up. Let's go, let's go, let's go. I feel bad. I do, but I don't. The reason is you left to go there to be a star. He didn't leave.

No, no, no. Did he pick the Wizards a star. He didn't leave. No, no, no. Did he pick the Wizards? No, he didn't leave. No, no, okay. He got punched. He got traded. No, okay, look. They punched him to the Wizards.

You got traded. You got traded. He's a Mega Man puncher. He's a Mega Man puncher. But you went to a team that the stars left, and they paid you the type of money that made you the star. Then you started the summer off saying, all right, let's do it. We're going to work out together.

We're going to do all this. You took on the leadership role. Summer league, I mean, not summer league, but preseason started. We're like, oh. I remember. They had one good game. We like, oh, I remember. They had one good game. We all had him averaging about 30. Yeah.

We like, oh, he can probably lead the league. He can probably lead the league because we're thinking about there ain't nobody there. You are allowed to shoot 40 shots, no questions asked. We had Andre Iguodala, his former teammate with the Warriors on this couch. Iggy thought of being the 25, I think, point range. 25, yeah, 25 on the bat here. Yeah, get a a good whistle be able to really do his thing without any any limitations, but you know sometimes sometimes overthinking Overthink like When you would when you a fourth option you

You come into the game. There's really no pressure on you to play, right? There's no scheming for you. Like, you know, when you're scheming for the Golden State Warriors, you're scheming for one, two players, right? So Jordan Poole comes in there and gets the free play, right? You get the free play. That is a lot easier. He has less minutes and shot attempts on his right now.

Yeah, he played like Golden State. I'm playing 30-something minutes here. I'm playing 20. It's crazy. But that's the luxury, the luxury that he had of playing with other good players. That was in 30 minutes a game off the bench is nice.

But when people talk about, like, third options and, oh, this guy should be in the Hall of Fame, and y'all really have to think about Jordan. When you start thinking about these third options and thinking how good they are, Jordan Poole is the prime example. A guy who is very great as a third, fourth option, averaging 20-something. You put him as the number one option. Don't convert. It don't convert. How many times did he get the best defender? How many times did he get the best defender? So you never get the best defender.

You never get the second best defender. Maybe in the fourth quarter when they play him in the fourth. But even then, you're in the game with the deaf in them So the really the best players are on them. You're the utility guy that's open all the time Kauai Leonard ain't going you Paul George in going you know me you're probably yeah, you might not even get Maybe so now you're getting those guys and it shows you where you really stand in this NBA. Not ready. That's what I was saying initially. I'm like, he ain't ready to be number one option

because he never took the learning lessons from Steph and them. Even though he was like, well, he was there, he was watching. I'm like, but he wasn't trying to prepare himself for number one option. He had accepted his role as third, fourth, whatever. So now it's like, oh, I i'm automatically i've been punched into first but guess what he has close to 100 million dollars coming to him no no that's not guaranteed i'm just saying but that but that's that's the problem like if i'm if i'm trying to talk to him like i'm like listen do you want to be worth like you got put in a position to be worth 300 million after this contract. So you can either be 300 million or you're going to get a two-year 35.

Take this shit serious. I don't get some players, when they get paid, they do check out. Do you know that there's more money? There's more. They're giving out more. They want to give it to you. Yeah. But it's a different generation where they're soft and sensitive,

and they can't take the shit that we took to get to that shit. Like, I know I was willing to take whatever blumps and whatever. I just never got there, right? But I know guys that did, was like, went through the trenches to get the bread. Now it's like, I'll take what you give me. I come from nothing. I'm cool. My family cool. 50 million is cool. 70 million is cool. Oh I got a hundred guaranteed coming my way. Hey pops, moms, relax. I'm gonna play like shit for a good two years. But how much does that have to do with the franchise as well? Are you going from the Warriors,

Warriors spending the most bread in the league, trying to be contenders, trying to be a championship level team, Wizards basically more or less will tell you they're the opposite of that. Yeah. Shit, we might not win 15 games. Like how does that deal with your mental if you're used to being in a winning franchise now going to that side? Because you're playing a, but see the difference is you're playing a different game, right?

When I was on that winning franchise team, I wasn't him, right? I was a player on the team, right? Steph Curry, Klay, they went through the trenches to get here, right? I came on the coattails of them. When I'm going to Washington, you have to put yourself not as a champion. You have to put yourself back to where Steph was when he first got drafted, in the trenches. That's where you are. So you have to understand the process from there.

Yeah, you won a championship then, but now you are your own man now So you won a championship as a fourth option? You want to win a championship as a number one option and that is a whole different path and right now When it ain't part of that it's learning taking the hits taking the bumps. It's it's Michael Jordan is the cut like, you know what I mean? Like even when Kobe when Kobe won is he's like, yeah, it felt good, but it wasn't all me. Get rid of him. Get rid of him.

Let me do me. Let me build it. Now I'm ready to go. Let's build. Now these championships feel much better. But the difference is Jordan Poole didn't ask for it. And I believe that it's something that you gotta want. Kobe wanted that shit. I want to get rid of this nigga, because y'all

saying I'm Robin. I need to be Batman, because that's who I am innately. But Jordan Poole, I believe that he never, ever thought at one point in his career, right now, that he could be number one. I think he was enjoying the ride, and it was smooth sailing. I expect to be number one like after Stephan he was enjoying the ride. It was smooth sailing.

Probably expected to be number one after Steph and them was gone. Oh, yeah. Eventually. Down the line. He probably didn't even ask Steph or any of them about their experience from the beginning. But even if he did, he didn't experience. That wasn't his experience. To your point, you're talking about Steph coming.

Steph had to make that experience. If you pull coming in, you might just think this is what the league is like and I'm going to go over to D.C. and it's going to be the same exact thing. Now I'm just a man. I've been with these dudes. I've learned. Now you realize, like you said, now you're that number one guy on the scouting report. See, and that's what I – if I would have had to tell him one thing before he went there

is whatever you learned in Golden State, understand that you can't process it and use it today. How you was in high school, that's today. You go out there and you have to just let everything you know onto the court. Every move you want to try,

this is when you do it. You are super ultra aggressive to understand how to carry. Quarter, half, game, right? You lose 10 in a row, y'all lost. You hit 10 shots in a row, come back and win. You have to experience that today to understand how to lead later on. Steph learned that. Steph learned how to shit. I got to do this and do this to the point where when you got there, this is all smooth sailing for them dudes. So you think he could come back for this?

Because it looks like at this point he's giving up. Yeah, he gave up. Yeah, because it was so overwhelming. It's like, damn, it's not only the pressure of expectation, but it's my teammates, and now they all looking and expecting me to play the way I was playing in Golden State, and I can't even play that way because I was playing with a bunch of winners who were used to winning,

and we ain't shit, and we losing, and now y'all looking at me like, hey, carry us, and he's like, well, I don't have a backpack. Niggas, that was the backpack. I was in the backpack. Now I got the backpack, and you niggas are like, we don't fit. I got a satchel.

I got a satchel. I got a hacky sack around the waist. A fanny pack. I need some time to go get the backpack. Give me some time to get the backpack for real. I got something. But damn, give me some time. I got essentials in this bitch.

I got my things. Got my little lip gloss. I got my things. I got my shit in here. What y'all said? So question for the couch. So Gil my shit in here. What's y'all's shit? So question for the couch. So Gil, you don't think it's necessary to work out with the Wizards, but do you see... It's over.

He's a six man. But do you see a world where, let's say he goes to a team like the Bucks, he's from Milwaukee, he can find his groove again, be in the back in a different position. Now we're not having to be... And that's the problem. Everyone don't get a chance to be the number one player. This was your chance to be the number one player. You didn't know how to accept the problem. Everyone don't get a chance to be the number one player. This was your chance to be the number one player. You didn't know how to accept the role.

So moving forward after this year, you are going to be put into a role of a six-man. Like Tyler Hero. There was a point where, you see what I mean? Like Tyler Hero and all them. Tyler Hero is technically the number one option. We didn't look at it like that. We never looked at Tyler Hero is technically the number one option. We didn't look at it like that. We never looked at Tyler Hero because Tyler Hero got hurt before the playoffs. But if you look, he was damn near leading the league in scoring.

This year, he's the number one option. That was supposed to be Jordan Poole. So he's going to go back into a situation where like, yeah, he's better coming off the bench where there's no pressure. You don't have to worry about nothing. Shoot the shots if you're making the shots. He's like Monk right now. Yes.

And there's nothing wrong with that either. That's what I was going to say. No, no. You don't feel like there's anything wrong with being in that spot. No, no. That's a great comparison because Monk is so cold, and you would want to put him in the starting lineup because how cold he is, but he doesn't function in the starting lineup the way you would want him to. He plays much better without the pressure on him.

Now, the problem, like when you say he's better off coming off, you would think so, but the problem is he got put into a seat. Like, I got put into the Maybach seat. Like, oh, shit, I didn't run. Now you're going to go into the passenger seat. Yeah. Are you going to ever be happy again knowing that your ass is always going to be a passenger? After having a chance.

Once having a chance to sit there, you're going to be thinking about trying to get back to sit there when that time ain't going to come. Not really. You're going to be a forever six man. Not really, because a motherfucker who can't drive is a motherfucker who can't drive. You know what I'm saying? There's anxiety kicking in, and motherfuckers are turning and laughing right now. Let me sit over here. I don't like this shit.

I don't like to drive. Let me sit right here. Like with Lou Williams, right? Lou Williams never really got a chance to start. Right. He was not like he was always. So it's easier for him to move like that. Like even when he was the best player on the team, they brung him off the bench.

Yep. Still. Right? So he never got a chance to really be a starter to show that I can start. You got a chance. Right. Right? So Lou Williams' whole thing, him, I'm like, damn, I wish I had a chance to start.

Jamal, too. My whole career would have been different if I got a chance to start. Poole's whole thing is like, damn, I fucked that up. But Gil, that's definitely one way of thinking about it. But now if he goes to a team that's a contender-level team, has the opportunity to win more championships, that may be in the back of his mind, but also in the back of his mind is like, shit, we just won 14 games this season. Yeah.

Now I'm in a squad that's winning 55-60. Yeah, that shit sounds cool. I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to tell you something. An owner told me, if you have a franchise for 10 years, and then you have to get rid of it after 10 years, in those 10 years,

one road is you won five rings and you made 500 million or zero rings and two billion. Which road did you take? As an owner? I'm taking the two billion easy. And you said exactly. Donald Sterling. I don't know. All of it. That's what I'm saying. All of it. Same. You would not hear one owner unless he's just this really off thethe-wall dude as a businessman saying you're going to take the five rings with the $500 million.

So just like any guy, if I'm a player, we're reversed. We are brought up winning. We're thinking about winning and winning and winning until we get to the league and we realize money is what everyone's after. So winning a ring is sitting on the bench, right? And then you're not holding this ring to the value of someone who didn't win, right? Poole goes into the open market. Remember, he getting paid to damn near the same as them Hero.

Hero ain't got no ring. When Hero leaves, Hero won't have no ring. Jordan Poole can get two more rings as a bench man. Hero is going to make three times more money than Dude. I think that's something as fans that they don't understand about your guys' perspective a lot. Because everything growing up is about winning championships and being good team players and all that shit. But basketball becomes a business, and now it's about bagging. And now it's like that in college, too. So these guys and girls, well, not as much girls, but more guys,

they're going to start chasing the bag before it rings, I think, more so than in the past, because they're doing it now in college. Well, that's why I think the game is suffering. What do you think about winning in college in the morning? The game isn't sufferable at that point because it was a game. That's why we played. To win. Right? Championships, ring culture, whatever. I call it win culture. But once it becomes a business, which is what y'all alluding to, it becomes about the money. Yeah. And it stops becoming about winning. But when was it ever about

winning and not the money? When there wasn't enough money to make it about anything but winning. But that's what I said. Not when I was coming up. It wasn't about the money because Jordan wasn't even making 30 million plus until a certain year. And it wasn't about the money at that point. No, no. See, that's what I'm saying.

It was about the money. That's why they were complaining. How is this man making more than me? That's what the fight was. But before he got that contract, it wasn't that at all. Everyone was making the damn near amount. No, everybody wasn't. They were getting screwed the whole time looking at

everybody else's contracts. Pippen was mad that he signed that deal. Jordan was mad. I'm talking about before all that. Before them. Remember, when Jordan was winning championships, he was like the 100th highest paid player. Everybody else was making money. Patrick, you and it all, they were being paid.

And he's like, yo, what the fuck is this? But I think, Rashad, you're talking about like the youth level. Like when we were coming up, like, hey, you as kids. We don't know. Youth level, I mean, no one knew about money. That's what I'm saying, bro. Our culture wasn't driven by money because it wasn't about business. It was about the game

It was about winning you played the game to win. That's what a whole a you circuit was about winning It was about getting to the national championship and all of that stuff So then beyond that when it became a business guys started looking at the money now It's like how much can I get paid at the NBA level? Yeah at the NBA level It's like just slowly been trickling down. And the more the money grows, the more the, well, not necessarily

accountability, but the appreciation of winning started to dwindle. It's like, well, I don't give a fuck about winning if I'm getting $200 million. But we see it at the high school level, too. Are you talking about college? I mean, high school. We're talking about all ages at this point. Just the trickle-down effect now. It used to be more centric to the NBA.

Now you've seen it in college. When we're little, we don't see what... We don't really know the NBA life of what they're making. Like, we don't understand the concept of the money. That's what I'll appreciate. I remember Brandon Jennings saying he was getting paid money to play as an AAU kid. Yeah, that's... That's rare, but that was...

That's more normal now, though. You know what I'm saying? That's normal now, but even back then. So we still wanted to win. We still was putting ourselves, and there wouldn't be no super teams today if it was about money, right? These kids still want to win, and the NBA is when we get the reality check. Because it becomes a business. Because it's a business.

It's the National Business Association. That's what I'm alluding to, the business. When you're in school, you brought up it's about winning because we don't pay attention to the salaries and blah, blah, blah. Once we cross the threshold of you can make this amount, you can get this, you can live like this, it's like you're giving me a choice to do this or win? I'm going to do this, right?

Because we're all alluding to this is more important now. But to me, it's a game at the end of the day that has turned into a business. Now, we used to say, well, at the end of the day, if this is a game, I can make this, win this, and then go off about my life and do other things. Now it's like, nah, you want to make as much money as possible so you don't even have to do other things.

You can just live off this money. And that's where we are right now, where everybody's like, well, fuck it. I don don't even have to do other things. You can just live off this money. And that's where we are right now where everybody's like, well, fuck it. I don't want to have to do anything. But when you see owners, though, and how much bread they're making, team valuation skyrocketing,

teams getting bought for $800 million, $900 million, now worth $3, $4, $5 billion, I think it's only natural for you to say, yo, I want some of that bread. Wasn't your dad back then complaining about money?

Yes. That's why I have to work to this day. I'm not living a life of leisure. That's what I'm saying. We didn't, but remember, we're little, so we don't know they're complaining about money. Like when I talked to Clyde, and he said, you know, when your own team don't want to sign you back, you ain't

playing as hard. I'm playing good enough for another team to see me, so when I go on the free agency market, I can make my money. You got to think about it. These dudes is 80, 90,000 to them it's money then. He's making 90,000. I'm playing better than him.

I want my 110. You know what I mean? It was the same thing. It was just less money. Yeah, but back then it was still big money. Back then. Right. Like $5 million back in the 80s was big money. Right.

So when you're talking about Jordan, when Jordan skyrocketed and said, no, I'm worth 32. Remember, he's maxing himself out. Right. Because you cheated him so much. Max. Kobe never took a pay cut. I'm not taking no pay cut.

Like you, you, this is your business, not mine. So there's two sides of the argument. The argument is this. You getting your value and you complaining about not getting your value, right? So if you go into the open market and you're worth $50 million, you're like, I want my $50 million. Right? But it's also about what you're bringing to the market, too. Between the two players you just alluded to, Kobe and Mike,

they're bringing what to the table? Winning. They're bringing the winning to it. So if Mike not winning, that 32 really don't really convert to anything, but I'm winning. I got three championships, and I'm going to give you three more. I got three championships.

I'm not taking no fucking pay cut because I am a champion. But they're getting the support of the franchise too, though. Yes, and I'm getting the support of the franchise based on what we've done for the organization. So now when I go to the market, I have that added incentive to say with my credentials I'm a champion okay but what happens when they say well if you you want 30 million well if you take 30 million we can't build this team

if you take 20 million we can keep us championship ready and they say man give me my god damn money you don't have no championships but you better poop your ass off. But that's the thing. That's what I'm saying.

It's really a battle of, it's a battle of our youth going against us. When we're asking for money, it's us fighting against us. It's not us fighting against them because they say, all right, you worked 50 million,

but if you take 30, we can go get X, Y, and Z and win some championships. Now you sitting there negotiating with your own worth. And that's the problem. The problem isn't, are you selfish or not? The problem is the owner knows that if you want to win, you got to sacrifice. Because I'm not going to. I want to win, too, but I'm not sacrificing my money. You're going to sacrifice your money. Who are you going to sacrifice for is the most important question.

Because when they give you the option, all right, you were 50. I want to give you 30, but 20 is going to go to X player. If you like X player and trust X player can help you win, you're like, oh yeah? Antoine? Paul Gasol? Shit. We can definitely take it to the house. I'm willing to try that. I'm willing to try

that. Now think about it. I'm the owner. I have a profit too. Guess who profit didn't change? The owners. Mine. So you were 50. I made you take it down to 30 to get him for 20.

And if we don't win, I took the risk as the player. I took the risk. You get blamed. Yeah, you get blamed because I took the risk. You took the risk. You took the blame. I still make my money. 100%. No matter what.

But he gave you the choice. what but he gave you the choice Remember he gave you the choice. No, I'll give you the 50. Mm-hmm Or you could take the 30 and we can bring in a kind of sound, you know Like when you had a workout your coaches was like, you know, y'all don't gotta be there Voluntold It's like the optional workouts, but you know. You don't have to be there. But think about it.

It's my business. I want rings too as the owner. The rings help the evaluation of my team too. Right? So if you're worth 50 and you're worth 20, it's in my best interest to make sure I get both you guys, right? Yep. Well, if I pay you 50 and then pay you you 20, that means I'm eating. I'm not eating as much myself

You still eating not as much but if I can convince you to take the 20 to give it to you I get to stay full you guys win me a championship now my motherfucking organization is worth 10 billion That means like what they're doing to Clay? Hey, listen, I don't think you and us. Ah, you two-year, $8 million? Ah, we over there like, hell yeah. It don't cost us nothing. But you've been eating.

You already, Clay, you've been eating well. You've been full for a while. I tell you like this. I took a pay cut, $16 million pay cut to help out Antoine James to help out the Western. I'm telling you right now when people say you didn't, you, I'm telling you as a person who took a big pay cut for the team, think like the owners, the owners don't want to take a pay cut for you. So why are you taking a pay cut for their business? They want to win just as you. So let

them figure out how to run their business. That's their business too. But that's what I'm saying. As players, we're not thinking about it from a business standpoint. We're thinking about winning. And that's what they know. They know we want to win. It's like, nah, he ain't thinking about the business of it. He thinking about, man, if we get Antoine Jamison, They know we want to win. It's like, no, he ain't thinking about the business of it.

He thinking about, man, if we get Antoine Jamison, we got a chance to win. Because it deals with the emotional side on your side because you're going to be the lawyers from the media. Rashad don't want to win. All of that. But now you got to read that shit, watch SportsCenter, see everybody, radio and all that stuff. Walking down the street, kids looking at you,

you a loser, dog, you don't want to win. And Antoine has to have a conversation with you like, man, you ain't trust me enough to, you know what I'm saying? You ain't really think I could help you win? And that's the only problem with the just players. We grow up playing the game and for the most part, that's all we want to do.

Like we start talking numbers and shit like, no, I just want a hoop, man. And a lot more players are saying that now. They're like, man, I just want a hoop. A P.J. Tucker shit. I just want who PJ Tucker shit. I just want to let me go out on the floor. What y'all doing? I'll fucking with my shit. And if I wanted to think about money now, I'm like, why did I come here? I would have did some other shit. I wish a liquor if y'all think players is this selfish someone in the media as PJ Tucker Pay $10,000 and I'll put you in a game.

You'd be dead. What? Put me in, coach. I get 20 minutes? Hell yeah. Be out there. It'd be happy he paid that 10. I'll pay 10 more. That's what I'm saying.

You think people train all day just to sit there. Nah, from the number one dude to the 15th dude, everybody want to play. I don't like the illusion that you just think people, like, some dudes don't want to go out there and really give it the effort. For sure. But for the most part, man, dudes want to hoop. Hoop. Yeah. Well, let's talk about that P.J. Tucker situation.

Let me let the production crew. We're curveballing here, but... So yesterday we talked about PJ, the situation with the Clippers. We have some news to report on that front. Hey, man, the set looked hot right there, man. I ain't even gonna lie. You look nice. You know what I mean? The set looks nice up there.

Walked out of court maybe and shit. Mm-hmm. This is how we do it, Gil. We are on the fly. We keep things moving. You up top. We got it. So amid three months of frustrations,

P.J. Tucker will be away from the Los Angeles Clippers to reset mindset, expected to join the team after the all-star break sources say and then sean followed that up with not only did the clippers send home pj tucker but bones highland and pj tucker uh were sent home from their road trip against the warriors tonight both are expected to rejoin the team after the all-star break see they both they both probably relayed the same type of energy at the same time. Sitting right next to each other.

Right next to each other. He's a whole ass ninja. Fuck these niggas, man. Yeah, I'm with him. Yeah, I'm with him. Woo! When both y'all niggas go home. Listen, when you miserable, trust me, you can find another miserable person on the team

with you, boy. Oh, you feel the same way? Are you ready to go? What's shit? Yeah, what's going on? feel the same way? You ain't going with shit. Yeah, me shit. What's happened before? Huh? What's ever happened before?

What, sending players home? Sending players home? Yeah. Oh, that's often. So, Buzz, when he was with the Nuggets, I think they sent him home at a fly commercial. This is his second time. This is his second time.

This is his second time. He told me that story. I was heartbroken. It made you... Come on, young fella. Fly commercial. So, now that's going to become his M.O mo on every team like he gonna be yeah this crunch oh this goes about my plan time like that the team did that so since it's already

happened in before now they're like it's a hymn teams do this bones of PJ Tucker mistaken DMPs and after the trade deadline PJ Tucker put this up on his IG story Just a black screen with all this shit is a fucking joke now you could have been watching Netflix we don't know Could not be basketball related No chat future players Future players you got two you got two roads in this in this in this game, right? grateful and Priv unprivileged, right?

Right now grateful. What is it grateful and ungrateful? Yeah. Yeah, that's been grateful ungrateful before less unprivileged Sometimes I cook sometimes You are our Steve Ballmer So we just let you ride I kept it on too long You are our Steve Ballmer We're just trying to make the road trip. We are trying to just. So, you know, like you know who you are as a player, right?

You know, right? You started all 75 games last year. You have this 3.5, right? You know you wasn't really a starter. Just the situation you was in, you got the start, right? This year came back. You wasn't a starter. You wasn't playing much. You got traded. You this year came back. You wasn't a starter. You wasn't playing much you got traded. You're not playing

You can be you or you can be Greek the Freak brother mmm Think about the product I didn't want to fuck it up. Greek the freak brother. I didn't want to fuck it up, so I just... Are you Giannis' brother? Giannis' brother, get in. That's his name. I was waiting for you to say it, so I did it like the Nassus, right? Giannis' brother, get in.

He's the older brother, right? Yeah, he's the older brother. Or you can act like... He's like Doughboy. He's like Doughboy and Boys in the Hood. So you can act like the Nassus, right, and be happy you are in the fucking NBA, playing, enjoying.

If the Nassus asked me right now as an owner, hey, I think I'm worth five million. As much as I want to... I can be like, if I got to pay somebody five million, the Nassus would be paid five million before you, PJ. I'm sorry. How he presents himself,

I know he's not going to poison the rest of the team. Well, Thanasis is not 15 years in, though. But he's not going to poison the team. No, he ain't got a reason to. Yes. No, he does. No, he doesn't. You ain't never played?

No, Thanasis and you, but you ain't never done nothing. You're somebody's brother. I'm PJ Tucker from Texas. And what have you done? I've proven myself to somebody's brother. I'm P.J. Tucker from Texas. And what have you done? I've proven myself to be this guy. I've won championships here. I've helped people win championships here. I'm a fear defender.

I'm a hustle player. I do the things I do. I've earned my stripes. I've earned my name. I'm not out here bullshitting, saying shit that I'm just saying just because. I'm Thanasis. I'm just happy to be here because my brother over here. Nah, it's P.J. Tucker at this end of the day.

I feel like the only reason why he's this disgruntled is there's maybe a conversation behind closed doors that's not panning out, and now he's, like, feeling a way. He has not played since November 29th. Because he's not even the type of dude to do something like that. He don't want to keep moving them shoes all over the country. You know what I'm saying? He don't want to keep moving them shoes. But what country. You know what I'm saying? He don't want to keep moving them shoes.

But what I'm saying is let's just be honest with ourselves as just hoopers. Yeah. Right? Yeah. You're averaging 1.2 this year. Last year, 3.5. The year before that, 7, 2, 3, 7. Those ain't starter numbers, but you've been starting because of how you play.

You should be more of the Nassus than acting like James Harden, is all I'm saying. But the Nassus ain't even getting them numbers. I'm pretty sure the Nassus averages more than 1.2. The Nassus, Sham God, Spun. He did hit the Hornets with the Sham God. No, I get it. In reference to what PJ Tucker, APJ Tucker,

you ain't going to put the Nassus in the game fourth quarter and say, go guard LeBron James. No, Gil, to the Nassus, the average is about the same. One point, 45% 0.4 rebounds. What I'm saying is you have a choice. You can be P.J. Tucker the way you are right now and they're sending your ass home. You are a veteran. This looks worse on your resume home. You are a veteran. This looks worse on your resume now.

You was a champion. Now you're disgruntled. You're looking and they're sending you home. That means the number one, number two team is so upset with how you probably are acting that they don't want you near Esprima Donna.

The damn Clippers are saying they don't want they don't want you near It's prima donna and the damn Clippers are saying they don't want you the Clippers the Clippers if we had to put a woman to the Clippers Larson Pippen That's who you are You are ran through you are the bottom of the barrel Okay, Gil. Hello. Gil. That's who you are.

Just a fact. Gardening tool. Right? Gardening tool, use tool, whatever you tool you want to use, you are it. Right? So you calling PJs a hoe? No, I'm calling the Clippers themselves. And you are being disgruntled on that team?

That's when you be like, oh, come on, man. No, not them. That's like getting sent home from the Pistons. Oh, that's like being one of the good-looking guys and the work just don't want to be fucking with the ugly niggas. You're fucking with the ugly niggas and I'm right here. I'm in the gym. I got the muscles and you over here talking to the skinny niggas. I'm right here. Like if you got sent home from like you got sent home from like the Warriors organization or Lakers or even Boston, we'd be like, okay. Okay. I mean, you know, they got a winning franchise. You know, they don't want that type of environment around there.

The Clippers. The Clippers. That's like you sent home from the Redskins. Really? Let me ask you this. Commanders. Who was in charge of the dismissal? Was it Ty Lue?

Hell yeah. Or did it come from upper management? I don't think it was players. I think the players respect PJ enough to know why he's upset, but I think it had to be, it got to be, man, fuck Ty Lue, man. Fuck that nigga. I'm pretty sure that's what I'm saying. Fuck with that nigga like that. Fuck him.

Hey, you come over here talking that shit, I might put my hands on your ass. Yeah. I was just like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'll help. Let's jump him. Let's jump him. That's the problem. Let's jump him.

That's the problem. You're not on a team where you can do that. You're on a team where they trying to build now. They're in a situation trying to build. They interrupting. But that's one of the last teams that will send you home because they used to disgruntle. Right. This team, they like, nah, dog.

Nah, we turning a corner. We turning a corner. Get on out of here. That's what I'm saying. Like, you probably been disgruntled in feeling that, but they wasn't in a position to see. These dudes sent you home, homeboy. Even the wording, to reset mindset. Nah, because it's probably like...

Look, imagine, I'm with the Timberwolves, and they're telling me that Rodney Cardney is in front of me. Rodney Cardney's playing in front of me, and Kurt Schneider and Corey Brewer. I'm killing these niggas every day, and I'm trying to figure out how to get back into rotation. You're doing everything you can do, shawty. They're just playing good in front of me.

We're still losing, motherfucker. What you talking about? Right? So, PJ like, well, I'm trying to have conversations with motherfuckers to find out how to even get in the rotation and he's brushing me off.

Nah, man. I'm cool. You ain't gotta... You ain't gotta worry about it. That nigga mad. He's upset. But at... Okay.

You... You in your 20s, bruh. All 20 roles is like that. Right? In the locker room, the Nick Youngs, the Javits. We get that. We get it. The hunger of wanting to play.

We get the attitude. 38, bruh. Communication, though. If I want to have a conversation with you at 38, me and you, Ty Lue, let's have a conversation. And you on some, nah, we ain't got nothing to talk about. We don't even know. We just know 38, you ain't playing right now because we can't, where are we going to use you?

We already small. You already undersized. I can't put you in. You right. I can't have Kawhi at the five. That's not, sorry. So go ahead, sit down, be a good vet. This lets you know he ain't a good vet.

And not overall, we know you're not a good vet in this situation right now because you have another dude that's going to hit you. Yeah, he feel the same way, though. But it don't matter. You're supposed to be talking to the young dude. When I was disgruntled going back to Washington, I had a choice. I had a choice. And? I had a choice. And when I seen John Wall, you can ask John Wall to this day,

yo, my problem with them is not my problem with you. Whatever you need from me, I'm here for you. Shoes, numbers, relationships with people, right? I can teach you the game, give you this before they get rid of me, right? Me and you, 100. Like my little brother, I'm going to treat you like my little brother. I'm going to protect you as much as I can. My attitude with them is on a whole different level.

And that's, your problem is with coaching staff. You shouldn't be, you know, like Bones Highland shouldn't be suspended with you, man. He's still trying to get his 15 years in. This is bad. So you fucking up, him fucking up, especially if he's following you. Right. You're supposed to be in L.A., man. Don't follow my footsteps.

Huh? It's going to affect Bones more than PJ. It is. I mean, PJ is 38. If you're not in the league next year, you done lived your career. You a champion. Yep. Right?

You a hard worker. You going to go down as one of the dude, year, you done lived your career. You a champion. Yep. Right? You a hard worker. You going to go down as one of the dude, the grit and grind type of players. He done. And this is his second time. This is P.J.'s first time. So P.J. really never. That's what I'm saying. When it comes to P.J., we like, we get, we, like, it's easier to feel for P.J.

because, like, we get it, bro. You, you know, you 75 games last year. You a winner. You just want to go out there and you just want to win. Help the team. Help the team. We get it. We really can't throw any dirt on you as a

person because we know this is coming from more of a competitive spirit. But they can easily say, yo, Bones, man, fuck on out of here. Strike two. The other interesting part is PJ Tucker making 11 mil this season has a player option for 11.5 million bones

Highland only making 2.3 mil Inevitably people are gonna make their own decisions But yeah when you have those type of situation even for you Gil talking about your relationship with John Wall I just curious from an organizational standpoint if you putting them up on game they may frown upon that Now but it's how they were viewing you. No, yeah, cool, but the viewing of when you ask about a coach, like, nah, good coach, it's good. I'm not throwing no dirt because I don't

want him to be jaded by my experience. My experience and what I went through wasn't my experience. I had a wonderful time here. This was an amazing place. I messed up and they had to react. So I can't say because how I feel now, that's who they are.

That's not who they are. Tommy Shepard, that was my guy. Grunfield, that was my guy. They laced me down. This organization has been great for me. So I'm going to treat them with the same respect that you should. Yeah, for sure. Even when I was on the bench in Golden State, right,

sitting on the bench, and I'm going through the negative mentality. Man, these motherfuckers ain't playing me this. And Mark Jackson, Big Mark Jackson, Philly, you know, Jack was like, yo, no, no, that's not how we do, bro. We cheer for our teammates. We work out.

We work. We do this and do that. And when they call our name, which they're going to call our name, we be ready to play. Professional. You sit over here like, hey, look, here, look at this dude. He ain't never going to get in. Excited. You know what I mean? I had to think about it, but

now, imagine if I didn't sit to Mark Jackson. I sat next to this dude. Right. Who drunk all day, sitting there, talking shit. Right? That would have been me. Misery loves company. Jackson I sat next to this dude right who drunk all day sitting in talking shit right that would have been me misery loves company company it loves company as well we got a question from the audience related to this topic so Josiah mentioned the 11.5 million dollar player option for PJ Tucker if you're in his position or what do you think he'll do go for that next year or potentially retire

what you gonna do next I'm taking the money y'all want me to reset my mindset I'm a director positive job better play me a little bit next season god damn it Y'all want me to reset my mindset? I ain't resetting this direct deposit, though. Let's keep it coming in. Y'all better play me a little bit next season, goddammit. Y'all going to force your hand? So that's a player option, right? So that means finish the season out, right? So after this season, he has the option now to get that another 11.5. Finish the season out, right?

Or buy me out, but I'm getting my bread. Right, so if they buy him out, what's going to be that buyout? At this point, if it's like that bad to the point where it's like, y'all just buy me out and I might be able to get to a team by the end of the season, by the time playoffs start. Now, if that doesn't happen, do I cut the shit, buy into whatever's happening, sit on the team, and woo-woo-woo until the end of the season?

I'll just take the bread in the summertime and y'all can go. I'm going to be miserable. I got the end of the season. I'll just take the bread in the summertime. First of all, I'm going to be miserable. I got the rest of this year miserable. The summer hits, I'm going to opt into my $11 million because I ain't no dummy. I ain't no diver. It's one point

this year. If I go into the free agency market, I might get lower than a venture million. They might make you pay somebody to play on the team. You want to be on this team? If he don't take that player option, then they're going to be like, oh, you definitely not playing. Damn.

Yeah. I'm going to take that player option, give me my 11, and I'm going to be miserable next year, goddammit. Back-to-back miserable years. That's what we wasn't talking about in the chat, right? That's the information that we didn't really have. So the context of that made more sense for him to hey, I'm gonna stick it out I'm opt-in and then I'm gonna retire the funny part the middle fucked up part about it is

What he's doing this year that should be him next year Right, right. Why not be a disgruntled cuz this girl's about me out now No,. Because then you're going to be a free agent. I'm not even a free agent. I'm here. This is where I'm at. Unless he thought that he can play, win a championship, and then he has $11 million left,

he opts out of it and then it's not like a two-year deal for like two-year 20. Nah, he not getting that much more after that 38. Two-year 20, like, you know what I mean? Like, like a two-year deal for like two year 20 now he's not getting that much more after at 38 two year 20 like you know what i mean like in a two year 22 year 17 right it's six more million than what he had guaranteed you can try to pull one of those but that's probably why he's so mad maybe he thought he's gonna have an opportunity to maybe get more to get more 11.5 listen 11.5 now you got lemnis and then 11 point boy you

Sit your ass down Let's keep our asses moving With some hibachi time 11.5 boy sit Sit me home. I guarantee you he took a private. Come on, Boz. I got this. I got this.

We good. They on the beach. Boz walking with him like he the work. You better stop this shit, Boz, man. Stop following PJ. That's back. Come on, PJ. Where we going?

I got the shoes. I'm holding the shoes. I got the shoes in the back. Come on, Boz. Did you get the Nikes or the Jordans, man? You can hold these. Oh, that's fucked up, man. They sent them both home so you know one was the work. So, 100%.

And moving on to hibachi time presented by Underdog Fantasy. If you haven't done so already, download that. Use promo code GIL. They'll match your first deposit up to $100. So, we're going to talk about some small market chains because we show love to everybody on this show and it's Valentine's Day. TNT celebrated Shaq's jersey retirement by giving the Magic their first home national TV game since 2013. Last time the Orlando Magic played a regular season national TV game, that's TNT or ESPN, at the Amway Kia

Center, March 25, 2013. That game got flexed because Miami was on a historic 26-game win streak. Only two players who suited up are still in the league. That's LeBron and Tobias Harris. And Jet Howard's father, Juwan, played for the Heat. All that's great. And shout out to Shaq for getting the jersey retired. But the thunder came into town and spoiled the evening. So Jalen Williams had

his second straight 30-piece, dropping 33 points while shooting 66% from the field. And SGA dropped 32 points and 5 dimes as well. I'm really rolling with this underclass. Look at Jalen.

I like Jalen a lot. Yeah, Jalen Williams. And they make TikToks. Shout out Santa Clara. And they do make TikToks, and they are snazzy. Make threes. Now he's running cuts. The Thunder don't have many national TV games either. Two and a half to go.

Oh, I knew it. You can see that shit coming. Get y'all's ass out of here. And told the Magic fans where they can go. Go home, Are they home? But that's even more disrespectful because it was Shaq's jersey retirement, which was held after the game. So if I was Shaq, I would take that as a slight young brother.

Like, no, they can't go home. They got to stay here and watch V. So SJ and Williams are the first pair of Thunder teammates with back-to-back 30-plus point games since Katie and Westbrook back in 2013. Thunder are a game out of first in the West and will more than likely end their playoff drought this season, unless something catastrophic happens. But how much faith do you have in this Thunder squad in the playoffs?

Give them some smoke, Gil. I like this team a lot. Listen, this is the MVP. I'm sorry. Shay? Shay is the MVP this year. Okay. And here's why.

There's not a veteran on that team that has any experience of winning. This is him pushing this 22, 23, 24-year-old team, has them in a position to be the number one, two, three seed.

Right? Denver, those are vets. Right? You expected vets to win and understand how to win. You don't expect a young team. If this team was 10th, nobody would be saying nothing. Nope. Right? Because you expect that.

So the fact that they are in the position that they are, and the young fella is carrying and having these other young players playing like they are veterans, that is fucking MVP. Mm-hmm. So now it's Jokic and Shea. Shea's like, you know what I mean, this ain't even no contest. I don't care what it is.

Luka and Shea. Huh? Luka and Shea. Like even, as I said, Luka, you still, you got a Kyrie. You got a Tim Hardaway. You have veterans on your team. This team don't have nobody with no fucking experience. That's why I don't interrupt you.

Because you started off. Y'all been bonding very much today. He started off kind of rocky. I'm like, nigga, what? Luca, Luca. And then, you know, he made, that's a great fucking point.

I'm just going off It's a great fucking point. You can't go wrong with that point. Like, the age, the way he's playing, he's playing like a leader. He's elevated everybody.

Everybody. And he's found out he's playing like a leader. He's elevated everybody. Everybody. And he's found out ways to mitigate quarter scoring. First quarter scoring yesterday, the last game they had, he had 15 in the first quarter. Now he can slow roll second, third quarter, come back in the fourth, get my 30. Jalen Williams, he knows the assets. He knows who can blow up for him. He knows when to use Chet, how to throw the lobs to him, and that propels Chet to play defense and rebound.

He's starting to learn that, and I think that not only him learning from other people in the league, because Vince was talking, no, no, it wasn't Vince. It was another player was talking about how when they played with him in L.A., that he was just a sponge, trying to learn from all the older players. And when you got an opportunity to lead a young team and you see what he's doing in there, one, two, what are they? They are second in the West right now.

A game out of first place. I know, I'm on. Who's first? Timberwolves. Oh, we got these Denver at third. So we talked about the Timberwolves yesterday. They have more playoff experience than the Thunder. Thunder had a playoff drought.

But again, how much faith do you have in this Thunder squad in the playoffs? I think despite not having that experience, this team. Like, I don't listen. The youth is no different than Sacramento and last year and Grizzlies, right? They're a young team. So winning in the playoffs, star power, experience will get the best of them.

I don't have them winning championship or going to the Western Conference finals. No. If they get out of the first round, they should because they might play a bottom seam.

But if they play a goddamn Lakers or a fucking Golden State, that's a problem for them. Yeah. Because you're going to have, yeah, you know what I mean? So you're going to have, you're playing against veterans, players who's been there before. So they will have the advantage over you. But I know for damn sure they got the MVP this year. I'm sorry. So I would just tell you this.

If the season ended today, which it does not, but this is a good hypothetical, Thunder would be the two seed. They would play either the Mavs or Kings, who are seventh and eighth right now. And we're meeting that play in. I love playing the Kings. Listen, they can beat the Kings. Yeah. They can beat the Kings.

Mavs, I don't know. I mean, Luka and Kyrie in the playoffs. I feel the other way. I feel the other way around because I watched the Kings last night. And the Kings, it's a bonus that's playing out of his mind. It's a bonus that's playing. He underrated as fuck. Like, triple doubles, the way he gets it.

Fox and Monk, the way they play. Herter, Murray, the way they come on. And then Barnes is just out there wiggins. He just, you never know. And Barnes can, like, randomly like randomly have like a 40 ball right and then like you said with the Mavs though them not getting another piece like Dan Witte missing out on getting another guy that can actually be a third score for them I think that hurt them yeah but we'll see I mean PJ Washington Daniel Gafford both been playing so yeah yeah I

like both you know I'm saying good young, but let's just even move it forward. If they did advance past either those Kings or Mavs squads, they would likely be seeing the Clippers in that second round, which, you know, I would put my bread on the Clippers, but I would not be surprised if the Thunder... No, no, they're going to give everybody a run for their money because they play smart. Like, it's not like the way Shea plays, it ain't forced.

He's playing in his element and everybody else is feeding. So you don't have the selfishness of, let's say Spurs, right? They don't have the selfishness to try to go for their own and do all a whole bunch of erratic behavior when they feel the game is getting out of hand. They're playing to whatever Shay is playing to. They're taking the shots. They got two lead dogs with Jalen and Shay and they're all playing around those two and they're getting in where they fit in, which is making them dangerous.

You're not going to have 30 something turnovers and a bunch of erratic shots. That's not how they're playing. They're playing controlled basketball for a group of young players. It's crazy. You know, it's crazy to watch. So Sam Presti has been playing the long game, playing some chess, got a ton of first-round picks, got a ton of young players right now. But how important is it for the Thunder to keep this young core together

after all the years of bad hoops that OKC fans have been experiencing? I don't think it's a lot of bad hoops more than them just staying in, rebuilding stage. Like the Tulsa Shock, for years when they had the D-League was ultimately their converter. The way that they developed players coming out of there was a tribute to where they are now, where they got guys that came, you know, at least for Shea, Shea coming from the Clippers and them actually taking an investment into that and him panning out to be the player he is. And they're going through the draft, you know, being able to go through,

get Chet, you know, get certain players that actually complement. Jalen Williams, Case and Wild. I mean, they've made some great moves, great pick, you know, both Jalen Williams. Giddy. Giddy, I think, they've made some great moves, great pick. Both Jaylon Williams. Giddy. Giddy, I think, is a great complimentary player that fits a piece. It can be a wild card for them. I think they've always done good business. I think that's what the thing that's different for them compared to everyone else.

But struggling over the years comes with not having a star player. They've got their role filled now. But now that they're seeing the fruits of their labor through all these down years, now a window has developed. Yeah. So now they have three, four years to make finals or championship with this group without maybe one more vet star. But now they didn't have a window.

Now there's a window. So now we have those conversations of keeping the guys together. Like, are they going to win? Are they going to get to the finals? So, I mean, that's a different type of pressure that they haven't experienced yet. So this first year of playoffs

is going to be really good for them. And I think they're going to get out of the first round no matter who they face. I agree. And I agree with you. I think that window reminds me of kind of the Thunder teams of old with Harden, KD, Westbrook, just watching how exciting, electrifying that squad is,

how they're all playing for each other. But now, as we see, you know, some dudes want a bigger piece of the pie, more bread, want to be the guy. So it's kind of the problem you run into with these young teams as they start to reach that level. Well, you say, like, with the three-headed monster, with Harden and them,

they all had 25,000-plus points. Now? All were MVPs. 25 and ups. All was it? That is crazy. It's incredible. They all were MVPs. Come on.

But they wouldn't have been. See, they wouldn't have been if. Yeah. They wouldn't have been. They would have probably been champions. They most likely would have been champions because there would have been really no Golden State because they would have had to go against them the whole time. But it's crazy how as a player you go into the free market and you're looking at this

team and this other team, Houston throws you a bag and then you turn into a whole demon out there. That's how much you was holding back. team, Houston throws you a bag, and then you turn into a whole demon out there. That's how much you was holding back. For a championship. That's what we were talking about earlier. Listen,

look what you was, they couldn't pay you four more million, and then you're asking for four more million, they say no, a whole nother team gave you a max. You're taking this paid bullshit six-man contract to stay here and out of the wind, max them. And then, boom, a couple years later, MVP, scoring title. But even greater than that, right?

He goes, and then this other nigga go, I'm left here. Yeah. And watch me get... Triple, triple, triple. Triple, triple, triple. Like, what the fuck? Like, all of a sudden, I'm triple, double king out of nowhere?

But that should let you know that, like, just for the viewers themselves to understand what type of talent sits on teams, right? You got a six-man who they're purposely putting as a six-man so they can keep his value down he leaves in that same dude as james harden lead the league in scoring assist nvp run up the nvp that same dude was coming off the bench for a reason then you got one dude who's an nvp the franchise

he gets hurt he leaves and then the second option triple double triple double MVP like that's that's what sits on bitches So when we when we sit here saying yo this dude is that dude and y'all black well his that he averages 22.4 Did his what's the name in his URL and his? Shit like your dog. No, the nigga can hoop. Fuck what you talking about. He can hoop for sure. That's why I'm not saying this right now,

but dude got that bop on him. Yeah. And then the one guy that actually was the prodigy goes and wins two championships for the guys who fucked it off. So KD going up there, we didn't expect that KD to do what he was doing. He go and go actually win.

So it's like, damn, we can breed champions, scoring champs, triple-double motherfuckers, and three MVPs. Coming out of Oklahoma City, eating an Applebee's. Crazy.

Yeah, Joe! Try weekly. All right, let's shift it back to the East now. The Heat were without Jimmy Butler for their road game Tuesday night in Milwaukee. But second-year player Nikola Jovic and Bam Adebayo had the Bucs going back down memory lane. Jovic dropped a career-high 24 points, including a career-high 5 three-pointers. And Bam added a triple-double, finishing with 16 points, 12 rebounds, and 11 assists in the blowout win. They got their number.

No Jimmy Butler. And they got smashed. That's crazy. For Milwaukee, Doc. And where that defense at again? You remember you... Y'all know you were going to, you know, if there's one thing you do... Look at that.

Look at that. Now, can you rewind that? Let me see. This is the difference. Now, rewind that last play right there. Back and to the left. On that dig, man. On that dig.

You know what I mean? Look at that. Come on, Giannis. That ain't his defense. Sheesh. He don't know what to do. Look at that. You're, Giannis. That ain't his defense. Sheesh. He don't know what to do. Look at that. You're not going to fight over the top? Come on, man.

Where's your sense of urgency? Uh-uh. Oh, my Lord. They don't know that. Uh-uh. Come on, Brooke. That's a closeout, Brooke. That's a...

With that post up. I want that post up. Oh, okay, Giannis. Come on, Giannis. This is a bench player, Giannis. Right here. Right? 24. 24. I want that post up. Oh, okay, Giannis. This is a big player, Giannis. Right here, right?

24. 24, look what Kevin Luv... Is that Kevin Luv out there, old ass? Look, you supposed to dig this out. Drew Holiday would have digged that out. That's the difference. But that's a full rotation, right? That's a steal.

Hell no, you got the top hero. That top hero's next. No, because it's the road. That's Beasley. He's starting to recover. No, no, no. We leaving Highsmith in the corner. No, what I'm saying is I don't.

No, he's starting to recover. Becoming recovered? Look, he's so far. But how you going to do? You digging. You say get it all the way out of there. I'm going to dig and get back. I mean.

Don't disrespect Kevin Love like that. I don't, I don't. Look, that is Kevin Love. Like, I mean, if you want to. With that big, yeah. Are we going to get it? I'm going to dig it out and then get back. Because Kevin Love is going to have to take one drill to get in.

It's not a double. So it's a dig and get recovered. It's a dig and recover. All right. Y'all talking too much about digging out Kevin Love for my particular taste on this Valentine's Day. Grow up. Grow up. I'm just telling you.

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I'm just to leave Kevin Love. Only because he's far. Not because of no disrespect. Just because he's far away. That is real deep range. Are you faking and getting back as Pat Bev? If Pat knows it. He got to get higher.

That's what I'm saying. I'm digging that out. So the fact that he dribbled through that and just laid in. All the way in the lane. He dribbled through the lane just laid it in. Right, all the way in the lane. He dribbled through the lane. Like, he ain't passing his ball out once he put that ball down. You got to go aggressive. That's Drew Holiday, though.

Yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah, right there. Right there. Right there. You got to go get that. Yeah, look, Drew Holiday is getting that out of there. Yeah. But that's the difference between.

You're not even letting him take a dribble. That's what I'm saying. Between the scheme and players. That's what I'm saying. Players, they wasn't a good defensive team, but there was one guy. Well, two. There was two guys that understood little simple stuff like this. Look, he can't play no defense.

Giannis, you're the weak man. You ain't going to block this shot? Nope. But the bad defense start. Go back. The bad defense starts with Bobby Portis allowing him to go middle. No middle. I'm pushing him baseline.

I mean, technically, look. There's help. When you look, you see where the help is. I'm on your help. Look at that. I'm on your help. Now, Giannis is there, right? So at this point, I'm about to shade him baseline because Giannis is going to be my low guy.

Giannis is at the low guy. We both meet him at the corner He only has the corner pass at that point But I said if he quit if he does a quick if he does a quick move right there Giannis can't get there Well, but that's why you don't go shade baseline yet. Keep going But that's what I'm saying. I Hear it's a real honest. Yeah, right stay see see he can't see where Giannis is at, right? You want me to stay? See, he can't see where Giannis is at. That's just bad defense. Matt, 24 was too far away.

Yeah, and he did. It's just bad defense altogether. And the fact that Kevin Love had 19 on your defense, something wrong with you. Yeah, yeah. No, that's very accurate and reasonable for the former UCLA bro. But yeah, yeah, yeah.

But, you know, Doc went in there for defense. But they were celebrating that last win and then got they asked Trashed so was this win an example of heat culture or doc Rivers culture. I just eat culture. I'm giving I'm not listen We already know what doc is right? Scored another 97 told you is his office. He the Dolphins is bad What Dame have had 18 last game. He didn't have enough. He ain't going to play.

Listen, he ain't going to do well under them. Yeah, he played. Yeah, they all played. He played. Hold on, let me pull it up. Dame, 16. Come on, 18 and 16. One win, a terrible loss.

At some point, I'm looking for him to emerge as the superstar. Five for 14. He came. You're a and in the all-star game You got like you a starter like that's 25 plus every night. I'm not looking for nothing else No excuses, you know Offenses not his I know No, but I'm saying like we may run those but we made changes you run. Yeah, you made changes you bring in doc Doc's the office is not made for the point guard and I should not make it I don't look good. Not a score. No, it's not a score point guard. You're not a

Three-point shooter. No, he's not even taking the shots that he was taking for us to know who like we know him to be him Right, it don't even if he's going through things off the court, right, before those things emerge, it's almost like we still, we waiting for Dame time, right? There's no Dame time. Doc is, it's Doc time. We've seen glimpses in the beginning. Like, there you go.

Age, age, age. 35, 40. Okay, if we can get Dame to be Dame out here with Giannis, it's over for everybody. It's looking like the coaching change. Hurt him. It doesn't seem like Dame was with that. He wasn't.

Because his game, I mean, obviously his off-court stuff, but his game has just went into free fall since they switched coaches. Yep. And it looked like he can't really voice nothing past what he's already voiced because we already made the change. So now I got to deal with this nigga Doc. And then you brought Pat Bev over here? can't really voice nothing past what he's already voiced because we already made the change so now i gotta deal with this nigga doc and then you brought pat bev over here that's what i was gonna does that seem like a relationship that could be mended it probably is mended it's probably good

internally he has to deal with pat's antics now and that's gonna like pat already took the clipboard he already took the board i thought pat bev was good pickup, but I didn't even consider that. Oh, yeah. I mean, defensively, he's a great pickup. Yeah. You know, team morale, great pickup. But if you're distracting something else, which is when I go out there and I do my thing, it puts a weight on the relationships.

So Dame, during the Doc Rivers era, he's played eight of the nine games, averaging 21.4 points, 6.6 assists, 3.4 rebounds. Shooting percentage is down, I think he's sub 30% from three. I'm taking 20 shots, 22, 15, 21, 24. And then since Doc, 13, 23, 11, 18, 18, 15, 14. So Bucucks appear to be heading in the right direction, winning their two previous games before this game.

Wait, what? They beat the Nuggets! They beat the Nuggets! They're going in the right direction? They won two games to beat the Nuggets, Gil! They're heading towards the right direction. They ain't going in the right direction.

They just turned around. They turned around around at some point. God dammit the Sun hit him in the right direction How does the boat look when it's turning around? Some point is gonna point On this Valentine's Day additional gills by underdog Phoenix where if you have not done so already download the underdog fancy I've used promo Gil pug code you match up. That got me fucking up. Hey, no, no. Listen, I know someone. Listen, I had five nice-ass picks last night before the game. Giannis messed that up.

Blame it on Giannis. I said it was going to be a struggle game for them. I didn't think he was going to get eight assists. I for sure didn't think. Oh, you took the lower. I took the lower on the 6.5 because he only averaged 4.9 against Miami. For sure. So, you know, I'm – don't blame – Doc.

Blame Doc. Doc owe y'all money. Or – He just don't play well against Bam, man. For some reason. They walled up, man. So we talked about those two straight wins, including the win over the defending champ Nuggets. But as Brick Muse pointed out, this stunning loss had the Bucks in prayer mode.

There's no prayer circles after the game. Yeah, I remember doing that shit in college and high school, man. Look, many come to Jesus' meeting at half court. Do they work? After losses? Sometimes, yeah. No. Oh, no.

This was after the game? That was after the game. Yes. After the loss they prayed That's what I'm saying by college high school shit kumbaya, but guilt we talked about Damian Lillard Is it concerning that Tyler hero is taking more shots than Dame Lillard? I Mean Tyler hero is the number one option over there. So he's gonna take He's taking all the shots. So that's not disrespectful.

That's just what Tyler Herro's over there doing. But listen, I don't know what we, I don't know what more can we say. It is what it is. Doc is over there. That's what, that's who they wanted. That's what they wanted they did consultant the consultant is not a coach and This is your fault so fuck off so the question is

Question is there means purity give out that if Tyler heroes number one option. Mm-hmm should they be the number one option? Cuz I I really don't consider the honest an option if he gets all his shit in transition well it seemed like off the glass season dave was the number one option and that's why dionis was like i get i get what you change this shit because if you make him the focal point of the offense getting his his motor going as the number one option dionis will still be able to get dionis you're not stopping dionis from getting getting Giannis because he's not really an option. Right. Just Giannis. Just go do your thing.

You would think that because he had Blake Griffin, he would understand that the way Giannis scores is not in a structured setting anymore. Run and plays for him and shit. Right? So that means your offense should be geared around more Dame, knowing that Giannis is going to find a way to score, right? Giannis is going to be Giannis. He's going to go, but when you're in a half-court setting, your offense should be geared towards Dame and the rest of the team.

It's like when you say Clippers bringing Jamal Crawford in the game, he became the number one option when he was in the game. And if he wasn't in the game, you had a guy like J.J. who could get a bucket in a half-court set? That's really was who can get a bucket and a half-court set if we're not just doing fucking freelance basketball Which is what they look like they do Freelance just run it pick and roll on the side Brooke you pop every play was for Dame They every time every time down ball go run around a little bit, get it right back. Now he kind of just. He might not get it.

If you're a coach, man, if you're a coach, how hard is it to put a set in to the NBA? Hey, Dame, you know, give me three sets that you love. Yes. Like, give me three sets that you love, and we're going to call those boom, boom, boom. So, you know. To get you going. These are your shots, bro. Do not pass these up.

These are yours. Go. What's so funny is, even though I don't like him as a coach, just because it's people, but great plays. Stan Van Gunney, when I was in Orlando, right, when our shooting guard, like, I didn't have no play. Obviously, there was no play. It's just pick and roll or whatever.

When Jay Rich didn't play, Gil zipper up ISO. There you go. So when I subbed in for Jermier, I was the point. So that was my Jermier. I take out Jermier, Jermier. I never really played the two. So I never really, unless the shooting guard was out, then I was with Jermier, I take out Jermier, Jermier. I never really played the two, so I never really, unless the shooting guard was out, then I was with Jermier.

Yep. Then we never even had these plays. Zipper up ice. Mm. Like, like. Me? Like, me? Like, you know what I mean?

It went from no plays, nothing, and then when he needed buckets, zipper up ice, Gil. We got Gil with a ring on. Like, that wasn't even a play for Jay Rich, zipper up ice. Right. Or J.J. Redick. But he knew he had you. He knew he had me and he likes Isos and he put that play in. So when you see I averaged 20, they were like, oh, he scored

20 against these two teams. Look, Jay Rich wasn't playing in those games. Zipper of Ice was happening. So you have to be a smart coach too to understand that when you have certain type of players to put in offenses for them. You only need one or two plays, and that's good enough.

Man. You don't need Dane's whole playbook. One or two plays, he's fine. Man, zipper into the pick and roll at the high pick and roll. It's going to affect how he plays on the other side of the ball, maybe. Yes. You're going to get everyone else involved. Mm-hmm.

Hey, think about this. When the dude go five for five, three for three, side of the ball maybe. Yes. We're going to get everyone else involved. Mm-hmm. That means a shit. Hey, think about this. When a dude go five for five, three for three, that boy, that defense is good, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Flap on the floor and shit. Yelling. Hustling and shit.

He used to go up, but listen, have you noticed you never slap, they never slap the floor off a defensive base level, off a bucket. Yeah. Ha! Come back on defense. Now you slap him. I'm ready. Yeah, Colton, take me out. Yeah, just give him a few.

You were talking about Giannis and scoring a lot of his points in transition. Giannis is currently second in the league in most points per game in transition with 7.5. When you look at what Dame's got going on over there. Wait, wait, 7.5? 7.5 points per game in transition. Man, that's so off, dog.

There's more than that Gotta be Yeah What's that? that's what I'm saying was 7.5 means just cuz it's like a real fast break a Secondary break is still a fast break boom Call Adam silver Come down first of the corner get it back first two passes are still considered

I will call it. It's just not a set. Yeah, it's not a set like he don't they he's not scoring in set plays Where all right turn for all movies everything is just as you go as you go We come down and it's swing swing. He gets it and go this I will call Adam silver and mark Tatum You find out what a real fast break is Edition and then fast break there's a transition secondary break. It's like a secondary break. Okay, our producers want you know They find us that to support you you shit on the stat. There's part of the circle That we have here on this show That's what makes the show is that you find and I still shit on it But wait a minute.

Fast break is after defense is stopped. Yeah, defense is stopped. All right, well, let's show some love to our employer, Underdog Fantasy. We have 13 games on the slate tonight, so we're going to do some higher or lower. You're already not upset. We back on it?

We got the good-ass graphic. We got the good graphic. Look at them. They've been fucking up for a while. We back at it good Good graphic. Oh They seen what others are doing with my dollar these million-dollar pickles they say y'all get about three hundred fifteen dollars The same the same picks Everybody woman the same fix a little weird They put a they pull into me, huh? He wins I pretend it's me Use my pig that's America

All right, that's different. We're always gonna keep it real with y'all We put our home bread up if we lose it we lose it, but yeah My bro, I got no money. Them little 50 cents I had before. Here you come, holler at me. You got to do the live pick-ems for everybody out there. The live pick-ems. No. No, you see the trends of the game. What you mean?

It take forever to even refresh. By the time it refresh, you lose all the things. TV timeouts. TV timeouts at halftime. TV timeouts. I'm master the system. He got the bounce of science. They be switching every time.

I be trying to be like, bro, I hate this thing. It be like, listen. It be like, they got six rebounds. They need eight. Right? It be the first quarter. You be like, higher! Got it.

Immediately. He finishes with six. Like, come on. Bro, man. You have to ask yourself, is that nigga lazy? He's going to keep rebounding. Oh, man. You want to talk about upset.

That's how you get upset. That's how you get upset. They start off real good. Then don't get nothing else. I don't like giving this information away, but let's say a team is up by 15 or 20 points, but you have no faith in that team and holding the lead. That is the best time to get your pickups going.

And again, it'd be like right there. I'd be like, all he needs is one and a half more assists and it's the The top of the third. Oh, yeah that he got that The worst is you know when you you know You're taking a player who may or may not be the go you're doing assists and they throw a good no look pass Behind your head to another teammate and the league decided that's not in this is What painful? And the league decided that's not in this is what painful All right, but let's 13 games on the slate. Let's go through some of the most interesting pick'em options on underdog fantasy We're doing higher or lower first game Nick said magics

So let's dive into the numbers for the all-stars in that game first all-star Jalen Brunson 28.5 points higher or lower. He's playing the who? Playing Magic on, I think, the second night of a... He's playing on back-to-back. Oh. In Orlando? What's the score?

In Orlando. What's the... 28.5? So Jalen Brunson, 28.5 points higher or lower. This season he's averaging 27.5, 6.5 assists. Getting ready for All-Star weekend. The influx of work into Indianapolis. Nah, he don't...

It's his father on the bench. He ain't got no work. I'm going to say lower. The reason I'm going to say lower is because I think they're going to smack the hell out of work into Indianapolis. No, he don't. It's his father on the bench. He ain't got no work. I'm going to say Laura. The reason I'm going to say Laura is because I think they're going to smack the hell out of him and he ain't going to play towards the end of the game. Okay. I go higher.

I'm going higher because they're too little. They're a little lunch meat out there. Y'all little Cole Anthony and all y'all little boys. It'll be a close game. Okay. Because it's two East matchups. Where's Orlando right now? They are currently eighth, I believe. They moved already down to eight. They were six they lost that game. They dropped on Dave

Any play last night? That's what it last night to lower but Paolo young Franz Wagner young he got his little brother So you're gonna lower as well. All right. So what about six point five assists for Jalen Brunson? Hi, Laura, he's averaging 6.5 assists. See how he do that? Underdog, stop doing that shit. I'll take,

I'm going to take the high. I don't think, I don't think he's going to go lower on both. I think, you know, it's going to get, the game is going to be such a blowout early.

They'll be smacking him. He'll just be distributing. Yeah, so I'm going to take him higher on assists. Lower. He ain't passing shit. Whatever. No, no, no.

It ain't got gut because I look at it different. Like, I see where he's saying he ain't going to go lower on both, but I just, watching Brunson, he's not a willing passer.

He's not a passer. He's going to score. He's scoring. He ain't thinking about it. Lexi, Jalen Brunson, 6.5 assists. Ira, lower. I'm going to go lower. Okay. I He didn't think about it. Lexi, Jalen Brunson, 6.5 assists. Ira, lower. I'm going to go lower.

Okay. I'm saying lower on both. Lower on both? I think he's going to be... I don't know if chilling is the right word, but yeah, it's back-to-back. Is he already mentally in Indianapolis? I'm going to smack them, and he's getting ready for all his stuff. Wait, no.

They're going to be in New York, right? No, they are in Orlando. So Orlando has a back-to-back in Orlando? Yeah. So they both run back-to-backs. They do that. Oh, they do that? Mm-hmm. Oh. Okay. Okay. You ain't seen the Lakers back-to-back in Orlando. Yeah, they do that back-to-back. They do that. What is it? Oh, okay You ain't seen the Lakers back-to-back Lakers Lakers back-to-back

Ross I'm not fucking with y'all tonight. We do that They did that and I think they did a centurion they trick one of those games because the ad and LeBron split up who was Gonna play huh? Uh-huh. It may come back to hurt us, but the game is the game. Paolo Bancaro, 20.5 points higher or lower. He's averaging 22.8 this season. Who? Paolo. Paolo Bancaro. Say it again.

What is it going to? He's averaging, so 20.5 points higher or lower. 20.5 is his higher or lower. He's averaging 22.8. How much he had last night? Higher. He been playing well. He delivered for me last night. Paolo, if you? He's averaging 22.8. How much you had last night? Higher. He's been playing well. He delivered for me last night.

22. He's averaging 22. Tim's defense. You came through for me last night, and I appreciate you, my friend. And OG ain't playing. So they ain't really got nobody that's going to guard him like that. 23 last night. And he had 10 assists last night, so he not passing the night. Masterful performance. Not passing the night.

No, he not passing the night. He going to score Not passing the night. No, he not passing the night. He going to score. I want to know what the rest of his stats are. And he all-star for the first time? His oldest season? No, no, no, no. I know what it is. I'm just talking about does he have any other extra things that we can take besides the points?

We will get to that. I'm going to pass. I'm going to pass. All right, so we also have Paolo at 27.5 points in rebounds combined. I'll take that. 22.8 points per game this season, 6.9 rebounds per game this season. Wait, what's that number? 27.5.

27? Oh, that's a good one. I know, that's what it says. Just points in rebounds? Yeah, he's basically like 29.7. Nah, because he's not a rebounder like that. No, he's having about eight, eight, eight rebounds. What, seven?

It's yesterday. It don't really be. Huh? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he don't really. How much? 27. He's doing about 20.

Points and rebounds? He's averaging about 23. So if he go for 25 and seven. He can get a lot of points and get a few rebounds. Yeah, I'm going to just take that. I love the combos because if they just start killing on him, like Steph will do that a lot. He'll just start killing on him.

Oh, yeah. He's got to get like three rebounds. We just got to win points, Dom. God bless you. And then last for Paolo,.5 double-double. So will he have a double-double or not? There is a 1.75 times multiplier on that. That's why it's there.

If the multiplier's there, they ain't got a chance to get that. Stop the spicy pig. Just give us so we can say no. No. You never know, Gil. Give me the spicer on the lower, though. That's what they're doing, man. When they know it's a guarantee,

they hit it with the spicy. They throw a little hot sauce on it. All right, let's move on to Spurs at Mavericks. We got Luka Doncic, 32.5 points, higher or lower. He's averaging 34.3 points. Against who? The Spurs. He's averaging 34.4.

Oh, lower. You think it's Fugue? Blowout. Yeah. Blowout. But he's the Fugue? Blowout. Yeah. Blowout. But he's the type to understand the blowout. He'll get the 30. He'll get the 30 early.

He will. I fucking hate Luka because he will go out there and get 30 at half and sit the rest of the game. And then it's like third quarter, five minutes left, and he got 42 points. Luka also seems like the smart type to me. Like, we know we're going to beat him. Let's just keep it within reason so I can keep cooking.

So I can keep cooking, right? But then Kyrie there. I might go lower on that. But these are the teams you get your points on. Yeah. So then there'll win be out there.

Yeah. Win be might keep it close. So we'll go 51.5 points, rebounds and assists combined. Higher or lower. For reference, he's averaging 34.3 points per game, 8.8 rebounds per game, 9.6 assists per game. Has 10 triple doubles this season.

Third in the NBA behind Sabonis. He said 51? It's going to be a blowout. 51.5 points, rebounds, and assists. That's 30, 10, and 10. Yeah, lower. 30, 10, and 10. 30, 10, and 10.

Or 40, 10, and 5. Wait, 30, 10, and 10? So 30, 10, now he still needs 32-10. Or 40-10-5. Wait, 30-10-10? So 30-10, now he still need 32-10-10. Yeah, lower. Damn. See, you do that, and then you fuck around. Like y'all said, halftime, you have about 44-7. But he only have time to do that with teams that are in the game.

But if we get to halftime, we're going to still let him play. We got All-Star Weekend coming up. Let me cook. Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Chat, higher. Lower, lower coming up. Let me cook. Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Chat, higher. Lower, lower. Damn. Lower.

That's a lot of lowers in the chat. I'm following the chat, baby. We going lower. Lower, yeah. Luke has 10 triple doubles this season. Like I mentioned, third in the league. 0.5 triple doubles. There's a 1.5 times multiplier. Higher or lower. He getting 80 points tonight, man. Someone said he getting 80 tonight.

Damn. Damn, Major P. I'm going higher then. What was that? Will Luka have a triple-double tonight? Higher or lower,.5 triple-doubles. He's got 10 this season. Is that spicy? It's spicy.

Oh, then I'm going lower, because if they put the spicy on it, oh, no. Because he still could get a triple-double with... They put the jalapeno. They can get the 20, yeah. I'm going higher. He might get one. They put the spicy.

Just be out there fucking around. Throw some... He don't have 12 assists. Spurs are that bad, though. They put jalapeno peppers on it. They're bad. You'll get some rebounds. I'll go with that.

I'll go with that. I'll go with that. We got Kyrie Irving, 26.5 points higher. Lowry's averaging 25.2 this season. Kyrie Irving, 26.5 points higher or lower. He's averaging 25.2 this season. Kyrie needs to cook. Let that man cook. Lower.

You said lower, Rashad? Lower. Lower than what? 26.5 points higher or lower. They good? 26.5? If they blowing them out, that means them two are scoring real quick, though. Yeah, but... Or they playing good together.

Or Tim Hardaway over there. Tim Hardaway getting his 30. I don't know what you're talking about. Who was it, who, PJ Washington? He might be the one that gets the 30 ball tonight. Mm-hm. Oh yeah, and PJ. Mm, God, I pass.

Good job, man. I don't like that one. So you don't always, and that's the thing for you guys at home, they use underdog fantasy. That's true, I feel like you- Sometimes it feels real tempting, but- Hey, hey, that's it. You just pass. Because I be tempted like, ah, shit, I'm like, no, there's a bunch of motherfuckers that might not even play tonight, and I can- But what hurts is that you're not

gonna get the pass. Yeah, I'm not gonna get the pass. I'm not gonna get the pass. I'm not gonna get the pass. I'm not gonna get the pass. I'm not gonna that's it because I'll be tempted like I should I'm like no I guess a bunch of motherfuckers might not even play tonight I like them but what hurts is when you pass like you might not rock with a nine-member got 20 in the first you see All right, that's what we on today. So Kyrie 6.0 since higher or lower he's averaging five or five point four assists per game This is I'm going lower Yeah, and last but not least two and a half three pointers made higher or lower He's averaging 5.4 assists per game this season. I'm going lower. Lower. Lower. Yeah.

And last but not least, 2.5 three-pointers made, higher or lower. He's averaging 2.9 three-pointers made this season. I feel like that's one I could potentially go higher because I just like one. Anything that you can do in the first quarter is one that I'm rolling with. You can give me at least two in the first quarter. He's 2.5? Yeah. Anything that you can accomplish in one quarter of basketball, I'm generally rolling with. But the Spurs, you got to look at, all right, they're not going to play one-on-one.

They're going to play a zone. They play zone? They're going to play the zone. I'll take the higher down. And that's how I look at defenses against certain teams. I'm like, oh, they like to play zone. Pelicans, certain teams, it's like, y'all I'm a focus on like to play one-on-one They give us some threes

Lexi two and a half threes lower They like they don't have lazy closeouts he's just gonna drive there They be like skip skip closing out So when be last but not least in this, 22.5 points higher or lower. He's averaging 20.4, 10 rebounds in an NBA 3.2. I think Wimby will. I'm going higher. Yeah, Wimby said, fuck y'all.

Wimby might have to fuck around and drop another triple-double just to let y'all know. They got a small lineup, man. They're going to be throwing the ball over the top for him. We will hope. They should. Losing circulation in my neck. You said 22? 22.5 points higher or lower. I'm losing circulation in my neck. You said 22?

22.5 points higher or lower? I'm going to go lower. Okay. And Lexi? Higher. Okay. 10.0 rebounds. Higher or lower?

He's averaging 10.1. Higher. Higher. Second chance points. Yeah. We'll go higher. Did we all become best friends? 2.5 blocks. Higher or lower? He's averaging 3. Yeah. We'll go higher. Did we all become best friends? 2.5 blocks, higher or lower.

He's averaging 3.2. He just had 10 the other night. Higher. Higher. Higher. I'll go lower on that one just because that's how they get you. But then again, I did AD last night. But he at least got to give us four, bro.

Yeah, you're right. He got to give us four. I did AD last night. He had like three in the first curve. Like, yes, Anthony. You're right. I mean, I'm going to get him a score. AD last night, he had like three in the first curve. Like, yes, Anthony. Yes, Anthony. So, ooh, this is even better. 3.5 blocks and steals combined, higher or lower.

He's averaging 1.1 steals a game. Oh, 1.1? So 3.5 blocks and steals. Higher. Who? Wimby. I'm going to take that bet. Wait, did you say what?

3.5 blocks and steals combined. Yeah, I'm going to go higher. Okay. I'm going to take that bet. What did you say, what? 3.5 blocks and steals combined. Yeah, I'ma go higher. Okay. I'ma take that bet. That's a great bet. I'm merely a host. You just hit him at four blocks. Yeah, I'm good.

I love when there's more things they can do, because there might be a steal. Last but not least, we have Clippers, who are a few men down, versus the Warriors tonight. Who they down? Uh, no. Two players that won't have one of those. They ain't never on that. They ain't never on that. Take the lower. Really? Steph Curry, 28.5 points higher or lower.

He's averaging 28 points per game this season. Wait, are they playing the Clippers? Lower. They're playing the Clippers. Lower. Damn, Steph, lower 28.5? Nah, I'm going to go higher. Lower.

I'm going to go higher. They can't guard Steph. Zubac, that's Zubac. He has to cook them. See, that's what people be getting twisted. You think that Kawhi's going to be the best player in the world. He's going to be the best player in the world. He's going to be the best player in the world.

He's going to be the best player in the world. He's going to be the best player in the world. He's going to be the best player in the world. He's going to be the best player in. Lower. I'm going to go higher. They can't guard for that. Zubac, that's Zubac. He has to cook them. See, that's what people be getting twisted. You think that Kawhi and PG going to be on him the whole game. Pick and roll switch. Step back. Three.

That's not... Lexi, you said... I still say lower. Lower. Now that was good. I like that, but it's lower. 33.5 points in assists. He's averaging 28 points per game, 4.9 assists per game. Lower. Now, that was good. I like that, but it's low. 33.5 points in assists. He's averaging 28 points per game, 4.9 assists per game.

Lower. Lower. Lower. Steph, I hope you're watching. I'm staying higher on all of it. I know you're at passing. Okay. Who you got to pass to?

What? Who you got to pass to? Shit. By the time Kameka shoot, he done dribble four times. He's going to get that bucket. I just feel like Steph's gonna go for 35. He gonna take like 23s just to send a message. I don't think they gonna get that many off. You don't think so?

They didn't name him a starter in the All-Star game, so somebody gonna have to pay for it. You're right. And they not locking. Hey, the Clippers are not locking motherfuckers down. They not letting him get off. And the 5.5 three-pointers made, higher or lower? 5.5? He's averaging 5 three-pointers made, higher or lower? 5.5? He's averaging 5 three-pointers.

Ooh, okay. Lower. He's definitely not hitting six tonight. But you have him. But you have him all in. But you have him. That's not what I'm saying. They're going to run him off the line.

He's not scoring on him. He's not scoring on him, too. Middies? You got middies? You got floaters? Is it over? Like, 28? So you got layups?

No. Three-toes? Hell no. If he doesn't make at least six three-pointers. Five. Five? That's 15. You got middies? You got floaters? No. You got layups? No. Free throws? Hell no. If he doesn't make at least six three-throws. Five. Five? That's 15. Let's see.

He's got 15 points. And he's going to score 15 more off the bounce. I'll do the higher on Steph's threes, and then he want to drive it to the basket. Hell no. Yes, free throws, layups. I got him making those threes, but I don't have him doing anything else. I got him for two layups. I mean, two free throws.

Yeah, I got him making all them threes, and that's it. So Steph has 20 games this season with six or more threes. but I don't have them. I got them for two free throws. Yeah, I got them making all them threes, and that's it. So Steph has 20 games this season with six or more threes. But you take that higher, he'll start driving. I'm like, all right, now you want to drive to the basket. I'm telling you. I'm passing. All right, Draymond Green, 8.5 points higher or lower. He's averaging 9.2 points

per game this season. I feel like Dray's fired up. Yeah, he fired up. I'm giving him. He said what? 8.5 points higher or lower. That's five baskets. Give me the high on Dre. Yeah, I'm going to take the high. Does he shoot a lot of free throws?

No, he don't get fouled. None of them really do. Five baskets. You come out of the game if you foul Dre. I'm saying lower. If Steph is getting stopped He's passing the Drake Drago and driving in he came past the clay Clay still a lot of land so he gonna have to go in for that lay by going for at least 20 to look

Who clay 30 I'm going low on Dre for sure. I dream like that five baskets. I'm like Higher Lord, I'm gonna lower down I go higher. He ain't got nobody passes to no more It's been big. It's been weird. They cut all their wingmans out. Kaminga from the rim. And then seven rebounds.

He's not passing no more. Seven rebounds higher or lower. He's averaging 6.6 rebounds per game. I'm taking him higher on the rebounds against the small team. Yeah, higher rebounds. Lower. Zubox. All right, let's go to Paul George.

25.5 points higher or lower. He's averaging 22.4 this season. Who's guarding PG? Kaminga. Klay or guard? Kawhi. Shit. I'm only picking higher on one of them. PG being erratic a little bit, man.

I'm going to go lower. I'm going to go lower, and if Kawhi has one, I'm going higher. Maybe. I'm normally rolling Kaminga ever since the haircut. He's been delivering. But back to PG. Gil, did you give us your pick? Yeah.

I said pass. OK. That's three passes. Huh? No more passes. I'm trying to get a triple-double. PG, 1.5 steals higher or lower? 1.5 steals higher or lower? Lower. Maybe turn that shit over. Oh, yeah. Maybe steals, higher or lower? 1.5 steals, higher or lower?

Lower. Maybe turn that shit over. Oh, yeah, maybe turn that shit over. Maybe turn it over. If he not, yeah, he not got on Steph, he might get one or two. But he always gets stuck on me. You know what? I pick him.

I'm going to take PG higher. You can throw steals. No, points. Points, okay. I'm going higher with steals. He's averaging 1.6 steals per game. And then last but not least. I just want the points. I can get rid of the steals. I'm going to pass on the steals. Too late, steals. He's ever doing 1.6 deals per game and the last finale. I just want the points

I can get rid of the Steel's I'm gonna pass on the steel to Lego. It's already been submitted I'm just kidding James Harden 20.5 points higher or lower. He's averaging 17.3 points per higher But you know harder could go do his duck this lower. Oh Lower lower team win After their last loss his homeboy now with homeboy not with him. Yeah, after their last loss, they got a win. It's homeboy not with them. It's homeboy not with them. Oh, yeah.

Everybody get loose then. Everybody get loose. Hard nine assists, higher or lower. He's averaging 8.4 assists per game. Lower. 8.4? Yep. Lower.

Higher. Lower. He's going to have a good assist game today, especially if PG get high. All right. Well, that just about does it for Higher or Lower. Make sure, again, you download the Underdog Fantasy app. Use promo code GILL. They will match your first deposit up to $100.

Great way to spend your Valentine's Day, eating Applebee's at the crib, getting it postmated, while watching basketball, doing Higher or Lower pickups on Underdog Fantasy. I guess he's not going to Applebee's. What you mean? The Holy Trinity. Called the fettuccine Alfredo with broccoli.

We'll see how you guys did on the show tomorrow. Now let's move on to Mostly Fans. Yeah, I know. That's why you did that. You was ready to push the button. They're like, not yet. Not yet, girl. Remember how you was messing with me yesterday, Gil?

Now we are not leaving. We will be here all night. We're going to be like the kick streamers. We're going 15 straight hours. Damn. I'm going to be like the kick streamers. We're going 15 straight hours. Damn. I'm going to be like the kick streamers. I'm going 15 straight hours. I'm we are not leaving. We will be here all night.

We're going to be like the kick streamers. We're going 15 straight hours. Damn. So our first question... Oh, no, I'm just reading the name to make sure this shit looked a little sneaky. First question is a video question from underdog user OddPeeb. What's good, Gil Zerino? Let me know who y'all think was the better kingpin at their peak was it ghost from power franklin from snowfall or walter white from breaking bad let me know that's a good question best kingpin at their peak ghost from power

franklin from snowfall walter white from Breaking Bad. At their peak? I didn't watch Breaking Bad. I got bored after the first season. They said the first season is breaking. Yeah, once that little Spanish black dude came in. What was his name, Gus? That's when it got active? Okay, so I got to watch.

Yeah. I will say... Ghost is last. Excuse me? Excuse me? Excuse me? At his peak was when he started messing up the most. Huh? Ghost is last.

First of all, first of all, Ghost does his dirt all by his lonely. I go, I. No, we got Tommy. No, no, no, no, no. Tommy, we about to go get this nigga. We about to. Ghost is last.

Tommy, if you don't get your shit together. Mm-hmm Ghost glass, you know, I would say I will go the reason I will go ghost over Franklin is ghost was The the the penthouse level of a drug dealer Absolutely, right Franklin was still a street. He was smart as hell, but he was a street Dude, we know what that looks like. Mm-hmm.

When we seen Ghost, that was really just for the black community, the next level of what it is, right? We're used to the big meetches and all that. We know what that looks like. We know what the... We didn't know what sophisticated looked like. So I guess in the beginning- We didn't know what a dude that can- When Power started, yes, I would put ghosts at the top but has a show

Continued and he started. Mm-hmm. No How to clean that that's what I'm saying But like the thing about breaking bad and Snowfall is we watch them get there. In Power, he was already there. No. Yes. He started in the first episode. He went to the basement.

He's like, we got to kill this motherfucker. Yeah, but he was already in the penthouse. He already had the club. I was disappointed, but that's what I'm saying. But the other two shows, they started from nothing, and then we saw them. But they never got there. They never got to the penthouse. Franklin did.

No. No, but that's what I'm saying. He got to the non-profit. It was the first time we got to the non-profit. This motherfucker made it to the DOJ. He was the Democratic nominee. That's what I'm... I look at that.

I'm looking at... What? I'm looking at, like... FBI agent. What? This nigga sold out. Like, hey, he's our guy. You better go get the fuck away from our guy. But that's what I'm saying.

We've seen the wire in those. We've seen the grind from small time to the big time. We've never seen someone that was already established clubbing and all that and how to clean the money. It's like, oh, OK, this is different. Man, that man went all the way to Miami to get a hit off by himself. But I got to go kill this bitch, man.

Let me go. I got to go do this. See, that's just a little bias, because I don't like him and Angela's little. Oh, yes. But Tasha, but Tasha. Come on, look. You was watching all them sex scenes.

You was watching that shit. I mean, come on, look. Tasha was the worst. He's sleeping with FBI. The other one's sleeping with the next door neighbor. Look, I got the plug. Yeah, he didn't know, though. I got the plug.

She is my inside. I got the next door neighbor, though. And she didn't even know I was me until I told her. Bex. Okay, all right, Ghost. Okay. Even though he got killed by his own kid. It was a setup.

Sorry. Oh, yeah. Sorry if nobody heard the power. The chat is reversed on power there. They said it every episode. Tyreek, a badass kid anyway. Oh, he got on my nerves. Motherfucking Tyreek.

He made me stop watching that damn show. He been bad all his life, though. Yeah. Every movie he's been in, Tyreek is bad as fuck. We need a bad little asshole kid. Tyreek. We're going to name him Tyreek. We need a little asshole kid.

Pick him. Tyreek is his name. All right. Our next question is a video from a person who does not have underdog fantasy and does not want to make

$100. Damn. Okay. So who would you rather take in a seven game series? The 2012 OKC Thunder by add Shea and Chet or the 2013 Los Angeles Clippers but add PG and Kawhi? And why?

So 2012... I'm proud of Shea anyway. Wait, Shea wasn't on that team. Shea... 2012 OKC. The Harden-Westbrook-KD team. Yeah, but Shea wasn't... Yeah, Shea wasn't on that team. Shea 2012. Okay see Yeah, but shea was yeah Shea was even NBA 2012 Thunder. I would pick will pick a shade and peak chat, which is with with Hardin Westbrook Katie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I didn't Westbrook, and KD. Yeah. Harden, Westbrook, KD. Or Klipper. Mbaka, and then Tafalosha.

Tafalosha. Was Perk on that team? Or 2013 Klipper? No, but add PG and Kawhi. Who was on that team? Eric Fisher was on that team. CB, Blake. Blake.

Yeah, Greg Jordan. And who are we adding? JJ Riddick. We're adding PG and Kawhi. Jamal Crawford. Ooh, that's... Damn, that's... No, I'm still...

Kawhi, PG. Blake Griffin. Oh, you got PG? Yeah, PG-13. Hmm. So, at the point, I got Russell and Shea at the 1-2. Um... You got CP. You got KD.

Who coming off the bench? KD at the 3. JJ's coming off the bench. Who's coming off the bench at Okay, see it would have been Harden still shy harness say hard. Hey, no harder cuz I don't think man Anyway, well Shay still off the bench too cuz it's Russ now put him in Russell the one to one to Shay need a ball in his hands. No, I don't know. No, he could run a second unit Shady the second yeah, that's not James Harden was just a, he was coming off the bench.

Who was the two then? Was that Robeson? It was Sheffalosa. Sheffalosa was a two or a three. Damn, I might have to change my mind then. Robeson wasn't there yet. Only because I just don't think that it would work. Who was the five?

Perkins. Perk. Nick Collinson. Perkins? No, Nick was second unit. Perk at the Back up Ibaka perk KD Perk KD chef Alosa

Westbrook Westbrook with Harden off the bench and mood and so basically the people we are So he's okay. She and Harden is coming off the bench. No, I could start Shay. I mean chat I'll start chat over over over a perk I'm not starting a rookie over Pert. Yeah, I am. I mean, and the GSC match. What did Pert give you? Pert gave you nothing but fouls.

Pert, 4.7 points per game, 6.2 rebounds. Yeah, come on, Chet. Come on, Chet. You give us fouls off the bench, big fella. This is the postseason. Ibaka giving us good defense. Jump shot. Who's on the bench on the Clippers? No one, because you're going to have to sub those guys in as starters.

Well, yeah, you're going to have to start. They're going to put JJ on the bench. JJ on the bench. Who was the... So you got Chris Paul, Blake Griffin, Matt Barnes, Jamal Crawford, Karan Butler, Eric Bledsoe, Chauncey Billups was on that team. Oh, yeah. I'm going with OKC.

I'm going with OKC. They ain't got nobody. They got vets. They got vets. Keep going. Give me more. DeAndre in the postseason only played 24 minutes, averaged four points. It was CP, JJ.

Who was the three? So it would be CP, Paul George, Kawhi, Blake Griffin, and DeAndre. Oh, DeAndre wasn't playing that much at that point. That's the start of the season. So then you're coming off the bench with Jamal Crawford. J.J. Redick. J.J. Redick. Paul Pierce.

Is that Paul Pierce? J.J. Redick is not on this team. On the 2013? Not in the playoffs. 2013, what team is that? 2013, what team is that? Yeah, what team is that? You got Willie Green, Grant Hill, Matt Barnes.

Oh, Jones. Oh, Jones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm glad. OKC. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought that was the JJ. The JJ of them.

OKC. That wasn't Lob City yet, was it? No, not yet. It was Lob. It was Lob City. It wasn't really Lob City yet. Lobster?

Yeah, it was Crab City. Crab City? Crab City? Not just regular food crab in the ocean. Look, look, look, look, look, look. I have to go. I have to go. We have to move around in LA.

It wasn't really, it wasn't, yeah, it was, it wasn't crab. It was crawfish. Crawfish. Crawfish. Those were like little sea roaches. I don't know how people eat. You like those little seafood bags? Crawfish. crawfish little sea roaches? Seafood bag We got some unfortunate news to announce in the arena Alexi this is your last day for a few weeks

As you start your athletes unlimited season. Yeah, you get some buckets. We got to... You said we never give you anything, so we had to give you a present as well. Oh, thank you. Y'all are going to miss me. Yes. We all project managed this. Thanks, guys. To make it happen.

No, I'm just kidding. We had nothing to do with it. Thank you. We had nothing to do with it. Yeah. Y'all better tune in and watch me play. We are. First game of the 28th. Where?

Where? I don't know yet. I'll let you know. Oh, it is free on the WNBA app. So go download that shit. Okay. Because you're going to need it in the summer. Yeah, we got that.

Let me see. There's some work coming today. Yes, I'm going to be on TV. There's some work going to be there? You know it. You know it. That's the best place. What? That's the best place to be there. You know it. You know it. That's the best place. What?

That's the best place to go. Dallas? Ladies and gentlemen. I'm asking just for a friend. Friends want to know. Friends want to know. Happy Valentine's Day to everybody out there. It's another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

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