Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To Tyrese Maxey SAVING The Sixers

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To Tyrese Maxey SAVING The Philadelphia 76ers Season as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew break down Maxey's HUGE Shot to lead the Sixers over the New York Knicks in Game 5 and ...breathe new life into their NBA Playoff chances. They debate if Maxey is taking yet another leap towards NBA Superstardom before discussing Joel Embiid's Triple Double in the Game 5 win and how the Sixers can use this momentum to force a Game 7. Next, they break down Khris Middleton & The Milwaukee Bucks smacking the Indiana Pacers without Giannis Antetokounmpo & Damian Lillard on the court, pondering how far the Bucks can go if they manage to turn the series around before playing a game of facts or cap on the Pacers to see if they're more of an 82 game team than a 16 game team. Finally, they break down the elite backcourt of the Cleveland Cavaliers leading the way in their Game 5 win over the Orlando Magic and preview a pivotal Game 5 in the Clippers vs Mavericks Series, explaining how Luka Doncic & Kyrie Irving need to take over to bring the Mavs one step closer to a series win. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@GilsArena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:10 Tyrese Maxey SAVES The Sixers' Season 0:07:45 Can Embiid Be Trusted In Crucial Games? 0:20:21 Joel Embiid The Ultimate Troll 0:30:36 Can The Sixers Win The Series?? 0:36:51 Future of The PG Position (And Center Too) 0:40:08 Bucks Win Game 5 Without Freak Time 0:48:07 Middleton Steps Up In The Series 0:56:02 Will Giannis & Dame Return This Series 1:09:02 The Pacers Are Not Built For The Playoffs 1:19:25 Difference In Playoff Mindsets 1:22:53 Breaking Down Magic vs Cavs 1:41:45 Could PG Join The Magic Next Season? 1:46:54 How The Clippers Can Stop Luka 2:01:20 Kyrie Is BALLING This Series 2:08:57 MostlyFans 2:16:32 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:15 This is my school. This is what I was doing with what nobody knew. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice or the locker room. Hello Mountain! Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presenting my underdog fantasy. Woo! 250, damn. 250. Damn. 250. I didn't want you to see me like that. Oh, you would've killed me. You finally had your revenge.
Starting point is 00:02:15 You got some pre-show shenanigans, ample beverages for everybody. What's today, Wednesday? Good job. Yeah, we almost through the week. How's that, Wednesday? Good job. Yeah, we're almost through the week. How's everybody doing? Y'all good?
Starting point is 00:02:30 Good. Good. Yeah. All right. Just making sure. Just double check. Damn. Hey.
Starting point is 00:02:38 What? Don't start. Here you go. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just thinking. What? Your last team was Denver, right? no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just I'm just thinking Well, your last team was Denver, right? Yeah last like well, we don't count that 10 day it was a 10. You could have been champion. I've never been a champion. Okay
Starting point is 00:02:56 Any any bitterness that it didn't go longer? That's why I'm like fuck I just thought about it. Okay, could have been a damn nugget, boy. Yeah. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. So, Gil, Nick pointed out before the show you got all type of accessories and jewelry and all that. Right, you got waves. You used to have hair like KD back in the day.
Starting point is 00:03:26 You did. You never used a... Cap. Last couple years, you didn't care. They even got an old picture when you got the beard, the fro-like. You stopped caring. I like this.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I stopped caring, yeah. I like this. I stopped caring. You came back to me and I was like, just give me my money. Just give me my money. Right? I like this deal. She was guaranteed. I didn't care how I dressed.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Looked... I don't need to be on your billboard. We got Mr. Swaggy P, Nick Young, back in the building. Yep, yep. Second time this week. And everybody, get your applause ready on this side of the couch. The legend, Kenya Martin. Woo!
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yes! We're sharing the love, K-Mart. Okay, it was some love deficiency going on on this side of the couch. But it's artificial, though. Nah. It's fake love. It's humans. It's fake love.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Nah, it's not the bubble. It's not the bubble crowd. See, you had to say something in order for them to clap See the shit ain't shit waiting for shooting. They know they're just trying to get you to smile But here's what's cracking in the arena today. Tyrese Maxey's 46th piece in the garden kept the Sixers' season alive. But will it be enough to keep their season going? You think the Sixers can get it in seven?
Starting point is 00:04:59 Save it. Save it. We're going to get there. The Bucks smacked the Pacers in game five without Dame or Giannis. But could Freak Time be back for game six? And how do the Mavs need to best utilize Luka and Kyrie to give them their best shot at beating the Clippers? But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Please help us.
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Starting point is 00:05:41 What do we do? I don't know. Next time, y'all. One for five. One for five? Who hit? You. So, we didn't do all the Brunson picks, so I used the Batum pick, and that was the only one there.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Oh. No, his would've hit, right? You had how many points? No, he didn't get it. No, Brunson didn't hit. The first quarter. I did eight points. I know he had Josh Hart rebounds that didn't hit.
Starting point is 00:06:01 So, what'd Nick Batum do? No, yeah, yeah, Josh. Nick went to- Not even five higher than. Hit the higher number. So, he got the higher? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Josh. Nick Batum. Hit the higher number. So he got the higher? Yeah, yeah, like 17, something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, like 17. Why the F for two men to get that higher? But that was just a suggestion. That wasn't a real pick. So we went one and five. Hey, nobody told y'all to listen to us. Do the opposite of whatever we do. Yeah, please do. We lose.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Yeah, you know. Hey, look, we better with just when we rumbling. Like do. Yeah, please do. We lose. Yeah, you know. We better, hey, look, we better with just when we rumbling. Like a two here, two there. You know, that sounds about good. And as always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of every show. So if you drop a good question
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Starting point is 00:06:47 to your Underdog Fantasy account. These can be questions about everything. They don't have to be just basketball. Keep them under 30 seconds, please. And as always, we do the show live on YouTube Monday through Thursday. But if you got work or dealing with work and can't listen to the show live or watch the show live with us, we got audio versions available on Apple,
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Starting point is 00:07:23 People used to have to sit at the ironing board for like 40 minutes to get their pants looking like this. Right? I was gonna ask this. I've never seen shiny jeans, dog. Nah, it's just starch. Where I'm from, people used to starch the hell out of their jeans. Yeah. But, hey.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Stop, stop, man. Let's talk about sports. Using all they mama starch, you know, getting cussed out. Nah, no. Let's talk about sports. Using all they mama starts, you know, getting cussed out. Nah, no. Let's talk about sports. No, those are two-tone jeans, dog. Oh, you seen Maxie with that? They got leather in the front and just regular jeans in the back.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Wait a minute. Yo, no. Look, look. They shine in the front. Ask you Ass shit about, okay my man. So Nick, we're gonna hear your advice, we're just gonna talk about sports. And then I looked at the back and realized, wait a minute. They do look like the stars, yeah. But the back is... There's leather in the front, Wrinkly jean in the back.
Starting point is 00:08:26 So the Knicks were looking... The floor is a whole leather. McCants must have made those. I ran out of fabric, dog. Rashad, if you're watching at home, please pull up to the group chat. Set these people straight. But the Knicks were looking to send the process packing in game five in the garden in front of a star-studded crowd
Starting point is 00:08:49 that included several Knicks legends like Patrick Ewing, Melo, Charles Oakley. Charles Oakley was there? Oh, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let him back in? Let that man come home. All right. But Tyrese Maxey did his best Reggie Miller impression
Starting point is 00:09:05 and said, knickerbocker, please. Maxey got hot in the fourth quarter to keep his squad in the game, but also missed. Knickerbocker, please. I was going to say knicker, please, but, you know, they say we can't say knicker no more. Maxie got hot in the fourth quarter,
Starting point is 00:09:27 but he also missed three free throws, had a costly turnover with a minute remaining. That seemed to seal the Sixers' fate. How does Mitchell Robinson do? With less than 30 seconds remaining, he got the four-point play. He came up with this big three to send it to OT. He didn't even do nothing about it.
Starting point is 00:09:41 He has to shoot it. He has to shoot it. That was some good shit. Yeah, you could. Maxie scored... He has to shoot it. Huh? He has to shoot it. Be up. Boop. So Maxie scored seven straight...
Starting point is 00:09:51 He just hit the end one, though. No, he has to shoot it. Stay your dumb ass on the ground. I said be up on the screen. We're just going to watch some highlights. Shout out Kelly Huber. But Maxie scored seven straight points in the final 25 seconds of regulation. Another dummy.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Being dumb gets you beat. Yup. Being dumb does get you beat. Yup. Being dumb does get you beat. But Maxie scored... He had nine turnovers, right? Yeah, he almost had a quadruple double. He almost had a quadruple double.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Came through with the quadruple piece, almost. But Maxie scored seven straight points for the Sixers in the final 25 seconds of regulation to send it to OT. In OT, it looked like the Knicks were about to get the win back. Brunson scored the first five points. He finished with 40.6 rebounds and three steals. But the Sixers responded with a 15-4 run. N-O-T to force game six.
Starting point is 00:10:33 So Maxey dropped a playoff career high 46 points. 17 for 30 from the field. 7 for 12 from three. He also had nine dimes, five rebounds. As we mentioned, Embiid dropped a triple-double with 19.16 rebounds and 10 dimes. He also had nine turnovers, but he did come up with the biggest rebound of the game to seal the win. So for the series, Embiid and Max are both averaging over 30 points per game. The last pair of teammates to do this is Shaq and Kobe back in 2001. But naturally, Maxie had Knicks fans in their feelings.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I'm just stating information. What did they do? It wasn't against the Knicks? I think that was against the Kings when they did that. But they did, though. So naturally, Knicks fans weren't feeling Maxie's moment after he sent the game to OT. Tracy Morgan had a special message for the Sixers' young star. Somebody gonna get pregnant! Knicks fans are funny, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:36 So he gave him the bird, and Jon Stewart had a special message as well. Giving Maxie respect before acknowledging he's getting too old for this ish. Look at his face. Everybody in that bitch was stunned. Hell yeah. Hard in that bitch. Looked like he just saw a black family moving to the neighborhood. So after the game, Tyrese Maxie talked about his emotions after sending the game to OT and keeping the Sixers season alive.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I was saying some things that my grandma probably wouldn't like, honestly. But, I mean, listen, that's a lot of emotion. Like I said, man, I'm not a happy guy, but I absolutely hate losing it, especially when it's certain times. Like, I missed three free throws, crucial free throws. Then I turned the ball over late. I'm like, people don't see me upset a lot, but I was really upset. I just wanted to go out there and make up for it for my teammates, man. I feel like I played pretty well the whole game, and to force to, you know, lose a game like that,
Starting point is 00:12:42 lose it in a season like that, I would have been crushed. Well, thankfully he is not crushed. The season continues with game six. So are we watching Tyrese Maxey take another step in real time? Shit, we watching him bring that goddamn cash register in real time. What the hell? Cha-ching, cha-ching.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Supermax. Third team, All-NBA. All-NBA. Yeah. Tell them to Yeah tell me my money count it up. Yeah count it up Yeah See the thing is because the day but the thing is they devoted they fuck that he gonna come on man Yeah, they what are you in there? Who else? He got in here. I'm gonna figure out when we did that. I don't remember. But who else though? I can't see.
Starting point is 00:13:28 It was like KD, LeBron, Booker all on the third team. He got most improved. Yeah, he got it. He got most improved so the tension is on him. Damn. Hey, they better, they could have paid him last year. It's a bonus.
Starting point is 00:13:44 They could have paid him last summer. That's where they fucked up at. Absolutely. Yeah. That's for sure. Could have got him at a discount. At a real discount. They be taking the gamble. Okay. We got to do the math on the gambles versus what kills you in the end. Because if he hits super max, you're... The super max, he has one person in the chat. Absolutely. That's super max. He makes the team. It's super max.
Starting point is 00:14:10 He was balling, man. Yeah. He's been balling. Him and Jamal Murray really have been... But he's been balling, man. Like, this is the real... Like, when you're talking about taking the next step, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:21 It's playoffs. Playoffs. Like, these performances from Brunson, him, right? It's playoffs. These performances from Brunson, him, right? What Murray does in the playoff, this is really like this is when you really evaluate what a real player is. Jimmy,
Starting point is 00:14:36 when people talk about playoff Jimmy, that's a real thing. For sure. When you perform in the playoffs, man, it's because we're scouting you Right, so that means Tibbs the scouting report is on you So the fact that you're still getting past a full scouting report lets you know how how good you really are Yeah, because you you know scouting report is
Starting point is 00:15:00 Packing order going this guy's important this guy's equally important, then you got... And for him still to be cooking the way he is and... Man. Yeah, nah, he... Can't do nothing with him. I'm happy for the kid. Can you tell the truth, with 30 seconds left to go in the game, Sixers down six, do you think the season was over?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yeah, just like game two, I thought they was going to win game two as's right i just didn't a lot of people did no because you just didn't you just the right it just seemed like the writing was on the wall but like like tyree said he had he had the makeup for the turnover the miss free throws and so iose attitude, man. And you got to tilt your head off to the kid. Yeah. Didn't let it affect him. Yeah. Yeah, most kids, you know what I'm saying, that young in this situation would have hung their head.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Yeah. But for him to rise to the occasion and put the team on his back, facing elimination, shows a lot of character and grit. Shows a lot of character and grit. Shows a lot about him. Yeah. That's what we built in Dallas, man.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I don't know if y'all knew that. He from Dallas, too? He from Dallas? Yeah, he play like he from LA, though. Yeah. Nah, nah, nah. Yeah, he play like he from LA, though. He's just that game.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Certain toughness. Y'all don't breed that. We have houses out here. That pull-up house. We got palm trees. Well, no, he grew up in the house, too. Max grew up with his mom and dad in the house, which ain't nothing wrong with it, but no, the way he play.
Starting point is 00:16:29 He got a house for $10 out there. Hey, man, I got $10. You gonna hold that room? Everybody got a house in Texas. Y'all grew up in a house and wanted to be gang members. Yeah. Projects. Yeah, yeah, we just got a house.
Starting point is 00:16:43 We just got a house. We just got front and backyard. Y'all got a lemon tree in the yard. Y'all want to be gang members. We got a fruit tree in the yard. How y'all tough with a fruit tree in the yard? We have an ideal climate.
Starting point is 00:16:56 You do that. Is it an orange lemon? That little plum's coming off. Go buy the plum tree for sure. Never went home. I'm going to go buy the plum tree for sure. Never went home, man. I'm going to get tough. But looking at that game, Kenya, like you mentioned, so Maxie missed the three free throws in the fourth.
Starting point is 00:17:13 About a minute left. Then you had the turnover off the line. At that point, it's like, oh, these dudes are cooked. You know, Madison Square Garden's electric. Everybody's dense. But being dumb on the other side helped them out. Yep. All right.
Starting point is 00:17:28 They got a chance now. I think it goes... Yeah, going home. Going home. They got to remember what they did last time at home. They was putting their jerseys on the statues. You got to feed into all that. The little statue, they disrespect that.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You got to feed into all that. Statues were bigger. It'd be a little bit harder Good to him, but Nick how good see if a performance is that for a 23 year old? Oh, man against the wall. That's big just the courage to take that type of shot when you know You kind of supposed to pass it to MB, but you still like like, fuck it, it's my time, and you pull up and you knock it down, that's big, for sure. Get the money.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Playoffs get you another swag, man. Game winners, like when you make a game winner in a playoff, because you're on a big stage, too. Big stage. You know the world watching you, because, hey, the other game don't start until we finish type of shit. So when you hit that, when you're hitting shots and having really great performance in a playoff, it means more. Right? It's just a different feeling.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Because the pressure's on. Like, I remember when I hit my, I hit the game winner against Chicago. Right? It really, like, when that season was over, we got swept. It made me feel like I want to feel that some more. Like, my teammates, the crowd, disappointment, right? It just made it feel like, oh, I need to get into that lab a little bit more. And then your confidence going into the next season is fucking here.
Starting point is 00:18:59 Right? You cook in the playoffs, no matter what happens. Yep. You want to get back in the lab. You want to get back in the lab. Yep. You want to get back in the lab and you're ready to get the next season. You mad it over, but you ready to get the next season. Let's get the shit. October can't get here fast enough.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yep. Just sitting there crying, like, oh, I got to fill that again. Yeah. Nick, you like getting buckets during your time in the league. Situations like that, crunch time, is there ever any, what are your emotions like going through your mind? Man, I remember when we played with the Clippers and Darryl 27 I mean 23 came back it was a and you remember that too right? Yeah he was on the other side of it.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yeah he was on the other side. He was sitting on the other side. Was I guarding you? Yeah yeah. Yeah you was on the other side. You was. Now that was a fun. It's just like you know, everybody's watching this Yes, but to do it on the road. Yes Yeah, y'all who in Memphis yeah like that that feeling there that is nothing like it all people is quiet Oh, it's like Going on them runs and hey, it was loud Six going on them runs and hey it was loud at first. Was that game six? Was that game six? That was the first game.
Starting point is 00:20:10 No it wasn't. No, no, no, no. It wasn't the first. That was the closeout game, right? Four. Five. Five, six. And for Maxie to be able to do it at Madison Square Garden, a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:20:21 I should get a little check for that. I should get a little check for that. I should get a little check for that before. But even though we was enemies, the night before, I had a nice little hookup in the hotel for you. Had a nice little combo. Had a nice little joint for you. I was relaxed for that game. I was relaxed.
Starting point is 00:20:38 I do appreciate you. Shit, my wife brought me some shit. She was scared we weren't married at the time, but she brought some food from Orlando on the plane for me and I had to be back to hotel warming up Oh, bro Because I was at the I was staying in Marriott Hotel had them warm I was in restaurant eating good. Yeah, but most that smell yeah. Yeah Yeah, ain't nothing like that, man.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Ain't nothing like that. Yeah. That was fun, though. That was fun. That was fun. I forgot. Back down memory lane. All right, let's talk a little bit about Embiid.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Embiid had a triple-double, but was 7 for 19 from the field. Had a career-high tie and nine turnovers. So let's look back at last season's elimination game loss to the Celtics in game seven of the second round. Beat had 15 points, eight rebounds, was five for 18 from the field. Was dealing with a sprained knee, so we got to preface it with that. And beat is known as the process. But can the Sixers trust the process when it matters most in the playoffs? She had a triple-double in this one.
Starting point is 00:21:40 She had every game. With a headache. Miss shooting around with a migraine Popeye eyes Early, yeah one leg one eye in the head. Wait, what is it? Yeah, we expect him to be that every 35 every night Yeah, but some nights ball and go go in the basket, but he had 10 assists rebounds and so a Couple blocks that matter. He had four blocks, I believe.
Starting point is 00:22:07 So he did other things. You ain't going to find nothing to eat out there. And he got a killer over there. Yep. So we got a young killer that he told him, hey, I need you tonight. Right. Moving forward, the Sixers want to win two more games in this series. Yeah, he's not going to have another game like that.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Nah, I don't see nine more times. he's not going to have another game like that. Nah, I don't see nine more times. He's not going to have another game like that. It's just two playoff series of closing that was bad. Yeah, it is. Just the last two. Just the last two. But Bo did win the issues, whatever. Yeah, but he's not going to have another game like that.
Starting point is 00:22:39 So how worried should the Knicks be about tricking this one off? Would it be, you know, triple-double, obviously. They got lucky in game two. Let's call it what it is, right? Yeah, they did. Philly has been right there in every game. Right? It's been very close competitive series so far.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Tricked off game two. Mm-hmm. It could easily be the other way, 3-2 them. So, yeah, no, hey. It's going to go down to seven. Because with Embiid, they are not a seven seed. Let's get that shit straight now. With a healthy Joel Embiid, the Philadelphia 76ers are not a seven seed.
Starting point is 00:23:19 They would not have been in a play-in game. So, they are a better team with him than the New York Knicks. A healthy him, they're a better team. He's been hampered right now. So, no, they should be worried. Yeah, they should be worried. They'll be worried. Jalen had 40 had 40 still lose everybody
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, they got to get out like if if Philly comes out and just starts off that You know that ten Oh run, you know 15 to 5 run anything that's like that crazy first quarter first quarter is old 37 to 15 first quarter some shit like that like yeah Yeah, it's gonna be hard to put the Knicks away because, you know, they don't, you know, because of Brunson and Josh, they've been in this situation before in college, right? They don't get rattled easy. So as long as them two just feel like, hey, just settle down here. Yeah. You know, you don't really have that, it don seem like a they have that young experience where they get rattled easy
Starting point is 00:24:27 absolutely so it's gonna go down to the end but you know you can see Philly is if everything is get the click and it's gonna be big fella get it going early one two national championships because they know get that thing going early a good long night is gonna be a long night. It's going to be a long night. And hopefully, last game gave Tobias some confidence in his game because he'd been playing like shit. I hate going into it. That's not good enough.
Starting point is 00:24:55 For you to be number three, eight ain't good enough. Played better yesterday. You've got to get better. When you think about it, you got... I mean, Philly dude got a lot of people over there. He be like, we're all... Yeah. But it's 3-2 there? He played eight people. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Playing Buddy Hill at first, he wouldn't give him nothing. He started playing campaign. They do got Buddy Hill. He ain't give him... He wouldn't give him them shit. When he get there? This year? He got traded there this year. He got single digits in the series. got Buddy Hill. He ain't give him, he wouldn't give him them shit. When he get there? This year? He got traded there this year. He got single digits in the series. He's fucked. He was horrible in the first few games.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Did not play in game five. He shouldn't have. Shit. That's what I'm saying. That's where Batum came in at. I was like, I was watching like. Batum was playing well. Batum didn't play in every game.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Yeah. 33 minutes off the bench. Yeah, no, Batum didn't play in every game. But Buddy Hill, he was playing well. He was playing well. I'm saying. But, you know, he to play Kyle because their relationship. No, no, just him being in Toronto, we won together, so he can trust him.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Yeah, Kyle Lowry had zero points in the game, played 26 minutes, got into foul trouble. Five assists. How did you? But he going to play, right? Because he going to come Right? That's true. He gonna come up with a key steal. He gonna take a charge. He gonna do something.
Starting point is 00:26:09 He gonna do something. He gonna do something. Just one... Just one something. Yeah, that's gonna help you win. So you gotta rely on that, man. But... But, yeah, nah.
Starting point is 00:26:17 They're in a position to do something. Um... But... The next game is the most important. Yep. That late-ass game tomorrow they got to play. No, they're playing well. What, they're doing it at 9 p.m. Eastern?
Starting point is 00:26:28 That shit at 9 p.m. Eastern tomorrow. Oubre. Oubre be playing well, too, though. Yeah, he been consistent. Kelly Oubre. Doing what he do, though. So Kelly like... 9 p.m.?
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah. Yeah. Wait, wait. They playing at 9? Yes. Damn. Has there ever been a game at 9? 9 PM Eastern, no.
Starting point is 00:26:49 That shit is late, bruh. 9 PM? I was telling Steve before, I think we probably had a finals game at maybe 8.30 tip. The problem is, hey, that second half is going to be rough, motherfucker. His body's going to be wanting to go to sleep. Yo, natural body, like, you're going to get tired. You know that second half? You know, body like you get tired like you know that second you know we our body is just his own timer We're talking about that pregame. Yeah, your nap everything is thrown off
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah, you're gonna go to sleep do your same routine wake up have two hours that you Kind of a semi-hard pregame, huh a free game They like free game gotta be yeah, it can't be no walkthrough because you ain't doing nothing all day then you gotta get some shots up or something yeah it's gonna be that's gonna be a weird one that's a weird one yeah like the first half that's like the back end that's like the fourth quarter for you yeah is that it's that second half where motherfucking mentally your body's starting to get take public So what happened was a mother gonna take that energy drink a little bit later than they supposed to be wired
Starting point is 00:28:07 338 go be like throw the ball up again. Yeah, I'm kind of use my dog Lee games. We starting at like nine Gotta go y'all Dolly game at 9 tonight You got a dog game and I look like right? Yeah, yeah to that How did you how did you perform at that that like 11 not at that one o'clock game? Oh Oh like 11, no, that one o'clock game. Oh, those is off too. You had a few of them with the Knicks. We had a few of them two years out with the Knicks. Yeah, we had a couple of them joints.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Oh, I ain't gonna lie, those were rough. Noon tips. Noon tips, yeah. Man. Shit. Shit, it's supposed to be lunch. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Yeah, you gotta change what'm saying? You got to change what you eat for breakfast. Breakfast. You got to do all that because you eat the wrong thing, Jack. Yeah. Because that's that
Starting point is 00:28:53 practice field. I ain't really going hard. I ain't really used to this right here. Yeah, you got to change. Too bright outside. Too bright outside. Like, damn.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Soon as you get out of the gym, like, shit. Right? You hear everybody. It's 3 o'clock. Nick, let's talk about your adult league real quick. What's the most you've dropped in your adult league? Oh, man, I be going to work, man.
Starting point is 00:29:15 It depends on how I feel. I give you a good. We're talking about now, Nick, so don't try to use stats. I'm trying to see. I'm trying to see. Yeah, don't use stats. I'm like a good. I'm trying to see. Yeah, don't use stats. I'm like a good. The most I had this year, probably like 38.
Starting point is 00:29:32 That's because I hit like seven threes, ten threes. Okay. I just stood there, you know. Seven or ten? It's around that ballpark. Okay, so we're in that neighborhood. Well, my majority come in to fear people. I'm like the Joker now. I don't move that much past. Shoot my open three. Okay, I majority come in to fear people. I'm like the Joker now.
Starting point is 00:29:46 I don't rule that much past. Shoot my open three. Run up and down the court. Because we've seen you against cam dogs. So we know you ain't popping like that. Like that, like that. I can shoot, though. I'm going to shoot.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I ain't sending them to go out there. You ain't doing that no more? If my legs feel good that day, take a couple of Advils, I could probably do that. But just going? Just going? Nah. Yeah, people ask me all the time, you still hoot? Man, no.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Like, if I said man playing basketball hurt. It does. Like, huh? I'd be like, no, you don't understand. I get it. My feet. Like, you hooting be like, no, you don't understand. I get it. My feet. You, what? BB burning. Feet.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Shit. I could get anything now. Feet. My feet hurt. Yo. People wonder where Sandler's from. A barefoot dude. He don't wear no shoes.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I don't want no shoes on. Man. See, I'm the take my shoes off guy. He just don't wear them. He came on my house to get some food one night my wife like get where your shoes I got in the car with no shoes walk straight up man. They can sit on rocks Damn do I'm in the 35 and older. I need 55 over the way. I'm
Starting point is 00:31:10 Let's get back to a beat After the win and B was asked about the Haiti gifts from Knicks fans, but said he embraces it star star. I'm a lot New York New York is you know my family still in the war but I Have a treasure for the past five years. is, you know, my family's still in the war. I haven't played sure for the past five years. So, you know, I just got off New York. And then the fans, you know, when you play a team, you know, they're always going big by God. And, you know, that's it. Which is fine. I love it. They believe I got to be the function guy again, you know I dropped me here about us, you know, FMD, you know, that's okay. I love this
Starting point is 00:32:04 Just put them on dog just talk like this dog because all I see is I'm sorry, I just could But all I see was like, that motherfucker. That motherfucker is sleepy. Fire, baby. Man got a miracle condition, man. I know, I know, I know. That's the only bad part. I'm like, stop. I'm over here like, I even look.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I'm sitting there looking like, just put the glasses. Just do the interview like this, dog. Because one too many blinks, you're going to be on the internet. Just put the glasses just Cuz one too many blinks that you gonna be on the issue you gonna be on social media talk Yeah, just protect yourself just protect yourself Cuz all I'm looking at I'm just cuz you know he's facing this way I'm just trying to look I'm gonna be like this. I ever Selena you too Did you guys embrace the villain role where you were playing going up When you kept doing this I wasn't a villain
Starting point is 00:33:19 I mean I was a little bit cuz you was like oh man that's off for cutting me up But take it out of all y'all Fuck I was in a sad was that was I wasn't the villain villain like I wasn't going around getting booze talking trash to the Lakers So everybody hated you did No, I'm the best player on the team gets it but see but I used to sign autographs before games I was like, I mean to sign autographs before games. I was like, you know what I mean? You was a man villain. Like I was sitting in the stands signing autographs, so I wasn't really, I didn't get that.
Starting point is 00:33:50 There was only a certain amount of people that wanted your autograph. The little white kids? Yeah. That's all that mattered. Yeah, they weren't the ones that was booing you. I couldn't hear this right. Yeah, you suck. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I don't know. Deshawn was. Not like, oh yeah, Deshawn was. Deshawn was. I wasn't like, I mean like I mean I said I wasn't in bead like that Like we're whole crowd going but that was another 35 I came either those in the MVP Good best. Yeah, I didn't get to that level yet And that's that level like I'm more maxi is where you know
Starting point is 00:34:23 I mean like I got to really throw my eggs in it before you get to me and be that is I was MVP last Year, I was ever 35 and 14 like so when I come to play you got to boo me cuz I'm the man Hell I say you know A lot Come on man, yeah, I talk shit. Yeah, I would talk shit. You know, I'm... Come on, man. Yeah, I'm aware of KD. I know. Yeah, no, I just... Yeah, because it's how I play. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:34:49 I ain't afraid to knock your player down, step over him. Like, why I ain't... Like, I want you to boo. So we going to put foot to ass in you. Put foot to ass. That's all. That's all. Hey. Part of it. Did you ever find yourself in a situation where you weren't getting enough boo so you We gon' foot the ass. We gon' foot the ass. That's all. Hey.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Did you ever find yourself in a situation where you weren't getting enough booze so you did something? Some great monster? Nah. I was like, most gangsta shit though, Mello used to tell people, Mello, you suck. He'd be like, you don't believe that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Hey. You don't believe that? Like, yeah, pretty accurate statement. Guy's pretty good at basketball. You know what I think when Melo got his 50? And Keene was, they got mad because we kept, like, fouling him before he would get his points, get the 50. You kept fouling him so he can't get it? Well, not fouling, we kept fouling somebody else
Starting point is 00:35:44 before Melo don't get the 50 or something like that. He still got the 15 and I was like let's get 50 Why y'all hate no was it in DC? It was it was covers and never Now y'all already had kicked me off the team. I think Is it a bit more away? No, not as mellow was killing Andre black like killing him. He did that every time. Oh, he had to cook out in D.C. too. Yeah. He had to cook out in D.C. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:36:07 He had to cook out in D.C. too. He started double teaming when we started. Yeah, no, we started triple teaming. He was like, man, let him go to work. Why y'all triple teaming? Let him get 50. That's why they got bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:18 You remember that? Let me see. What year would it have been? It would have been... Yeah, he used to cook. Duh, they got so bad. 2009, 10. He stopped them. He used to cook the whip. He was at 40-something he used to cook. Dog, they got so mad at us. 2009, 10. He stopped them.
Starting point is 00:36:25 He used to cook the women's. He was at 40-something. He stopped them from getting 50. They got mad at us. Like, we wasn't doing our job. He used to cook. It was in Denver. You was there when...
Starting point is 00:36:37 45. Yeah, he used to cook. Yeah, at 40. It was... I don't know what year that was. It was the the I got suspended No, who's the coach? Yeah, man. We got 10 coaches But let's look ahead talk about
Starting point is 00:36:58 Brough I remembered it. Yeah, it was it was around that time. I forgot you wasn't there then. You was there, but you wasn't there. Whatever year it was, brother, I wasn't there if you was playing. I wasn't a part of it. So let's look ahead to game six. So Knicks fans took over the Sixers Arena. If you wasn't playing, I wasn't there. Oh, man. Trying to get through the show.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Knicks fans took over the Sixers arena in game four. Philly legend Dawn Staley is doing her part to make sure it doesn't happen again. So after the Sixers game five win, Staley tweeted, I need Wells Fargo Center full of Sixers fans. Season ticket holders, do not sell your tickets to Knicks fans. I repeat, do not sell your tickets to Knicks fans. Pour into our Sixers. We can really do this, Ish, man.
Starting point is 00:37:44 I like she put Ish, too. That's a... She's a lady. Upstanding. She's a lady. Coach. But the Sixers are 0-17 all-time in the playoffs when facing a 3-1 deficit. But do you believe... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:00 You all reviewed it? No, no. Do you believe the Sixers can win this series? Yeah. I think they got a shot. I'll just make sure do you believe the Sixers can win this series? Yeah, baby got a shot And it got a shot they win at home. It's gonna put pressure on New York. I Don't know. I think they got the better player in the series if he planned with Embiid Think they got a chance Me I mean, it's all it all depends on You know Joel Whittaker, you know, Joel Whittaker
Starting point is 00:38:31 Come play What don't tell me you wasn't thinking it If you come out to play, you know, I mean that that I get to laser him in on that bucket, he good. You know what I mean? But, I mean, he is the best player. I mean, the best player in the league. I mean, shit he was until he got hurt. So, I mean, he can take over the league because there's nobody on the other side that can actually stop him.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Yeah. Right? Not one man. And they have to use a team defense on him. So, you know, this might be a game where Tobias has to really kick in right max He still does what he does. Oh break like you got players who ain't really turned it on yet, and if they Come out there and have one of them Michael Porter jr. Type of games, you know
Starting point is 00:39:18 There's no chance New York can win it because your focus point is to really just stop these two players So if you know like it Oubre gets to hitting three threes in the first quarter or something like that, that kind of shifts your defense. Now, once that defense shifts to start focusing on him, now Mb gets to go, Maxie gets to go, right, and it kind of, he would need those guys in game six to hit shots early. Ken, you've already said that you think the Sixers can win the series, but how do they go about winning game six to force the game seven?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Same thing. Like I said, they've been in every game. The games that they've lost, they've been in every game. So, eliminate small mistakes, offensive rebounds,
Starting point is 00:39:58 limit those like they have. Joel can't have nine turnovers again. Yeah, I think if Tobias Harris those that they have. Joel can't have nine turnovers again. Yeah. I think if Tobias Harris gives them more, I think that's the key.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Joel will be Joel. Tyrese is going to do what he do. Who is New York other guy like they other score? Who's the. That's why they got a chance to me Like it's more In New York is it yeah It's like it's like everybody. It's like everybody gets they got like eight players in double know they roll
Starting point is 00:40:43 Only rolls for sure. That's some good corner White boy with the waves Let's talk about Point guards on both sides. So Jalen Brunson didn't get the win, but it's been phenomenal in the past three games He's averaging 42 points 10 assists three rebounds in those games Maxie's also been balling. He's averaging 32, 7 assists and 5 rebounds for the series. So what has this series and these play-offs shown y'all about the future of the point guard position in the league? Man.
Starting point is 00:41:15 I mean, the point guard position in the league has been... It's been like that. It's been tough. I mean, since what? Since Derrick Rose started emerging? Yeah. Right? When that guard started really turning, like, you know, Steph coming in. We had, like, Steph, D-Rose. I don't know if Dame was in yet.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Yeah. No, he wasn't in yet, right? Because back then it was like a sprinkle, y'all. Yeah. Like, you, a Baron to come in. Yeah, that was mine. They was more passing like this. Yeah, when Steph, Monte, all those guys started coming into the league, that's when the guard itself became a real focal point. And I think when Steph won championships, you know, as a dominant
Starting point is 00:42:06 score, it kind of like, okay, we can, you know, now like people like Maxie and all those guys, they don't get pushed into that combo type of stuff. Like, they can survive at the point guard position without being that traditional pass first guy. So, you know, what these guys doing is just,
Starting point is 00:42:28 you know, just great for the game. Just is evolving each position. We'll see when the center position get back. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:42:37 that's the one after. That's the only one that feels off. Man, but it needs to come back. Like the power forward was bad. Then,
Starting point is 00:42:43 you know, damn near all hopping and seven, six, ten, six ten six nine got rid of them Charles Barclays Do you think we'll see the center position come back yeah, it's coming back If you want to win, you know, you know why it's coming back It's not gonna I don't know if it's gonna come back in the same form It was but if you look at the three, four, five now, damn near they're all
Starting point is 00:43:09 seven foot. You can take anyone and say, are you a sinner? You can say, yo, Giannis, you the sinner. You can literally just, Anthony Davis nigga, you the sinner. You can take the power forwards and put them as sinners and then say, ta-da the sinners back
Starting point is 00:43:26 Right, you know but these guys they're just It's gonna look different Different look different they they're gonna have to be they got a big you know You have to be Joel and Nicola. Yep. You got to beat them That's what it's like't have to be like Be them. You have to be mobile. You have to be able
Starting point is 00:43:47 to do both. Shoot it, pass it and get on the block and when we need a bucket. Mm-hmm. That's what it's going to have to be. You can't be limited
Starting point is 00:43:54 in your free throws. You can't be like both of those guys make free throws. Both of those guys hell of a pass. Both of those guys rebound the hell
Starting point is 00:44:01 out the ball. Yeah. Right? Facts. Facts. Sabonis. Sabonis. You need somebody strong and big. Passes both of those guys rebound the hell out the ball. Yeah, right facts facts a bonus like those. Oh, it's a bonus garden you need somebody strong and big but but I can't put like a He hadn't won freak freak on Joker. You don't kill them time. Who's a need right? His numbers have always been
Starting point is 00:44:18 Double double right? Yeah, he just didn't had a cyst I don't think the other guys have because he's had dominant ball handlers on his team. For sure. But his double-double has always been there. Yep. So the only one whose numbers are not really like that, that's the big, is Nurkic. Mm-hmm. All the other bigs. Because they don't play through him.
Starting point is 00:44:36 They don't play through him. So he's the odd man out with the 7'2", 7' big now. Like, that's what you have to be. And yeah, and then heaven forbid you get a guy like Wimby that can handle it at that height, just thinner in stature, but still you put him on the block against somebody who won't do anything with him once he learned how to play on the block in the NBA. Who's going to do anything with him?
Starting point is 00:45:07 Nope. Yeah. I forgot you got Alpine Sangoon. Yeah, you got guys, yeah. So there's a few that's coming along that's sprinkled out, but I think there's going to be more because they're going to start focusing in on them more. Even the kids that's coming in, even the centers that's coming in, these kids are 7'1", 7'2". Like, the beef, I don't know if that bulky beef is going to come back.
Starting point is 00:45:33 That's what I said. Unless somebody's designing this motherfucking kid in the backwoods nobody knows about. The White Hours? Yeah, like, you come in the White Hours, you don't already pump some HGH in the backwoods nobody knows about right yeah like you come in the white hour you're already going some hgh in the backyard since he was 12 and and then put him on the scene this senior year other than that like you can any kid that has this type of like body size that's just he's overly powerful They're gonna already Touch him with dribbling and pass and an incident so he's never gonna be that on the block
Starting point is 00:46:10 Dominus guy he's gonna be exactly like the only thing you can do with your kids is make it more athletic All right, you know we can make it more athletic But other than that, you know, I mean, this is what we're gonna have some guy who can play inside outside He ain't scoring he can dish the ball. It's The advanced Chris Webber's yeah, cuz they don't Joker you have to get three rings in a minute Who could guard them you put them skinny seven foot people on? Yeah Was he be a boy? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You got to get a big. Oh,, no, he got another baby this series. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Another seven, two, seven, three baby. So please don't bring the diaper in.
Starting point is 00:46:48 No, ain't nobody support that baby. He about to burp that baby, too. Man. Come here. But they big, though. He's still burping him. Nah. Man, he murders Rudy Gobert on the ball.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Oh, my God. I'm saying, but they big, though. At least they got a 10. You saw that one clip. Rudy says something. He says something. He told him. He says, man, I got 47. Like, stop it. No. But they big though at least you started one clear booty says something says he says something he told me says man I got 47 like stop it
Starting point is 00:47:09 Bird skinny to us about like they don't want to take body strong This is a problem. They're gonna play keep putting they're gonna they're gonna put cat on them and try to have Rudy as the back So Rudy so rude. So what it is have cat on them and didn't have Rudy garden Um, and then watch what I think they watch Gordon watch what what Michael Malone do They look like take Gordon off the floor make him go Michael Porter, Jr Fucker kicking them feet and swing Huh I think they got like the old Laker pedigree and when they was in a bubble
Starting point is 00:47:45 like the old Laker pedigree and when they was in a bubble like the JaVale McGee to do our power and I mean they do got I mean they're there there's There's a 7th 8th 9th man has been like alright But Denver do too. So no, it's gonna be a good matchup We're gonna hit it shortly, but let's burping bow one. Oh, no, this is a tough matchup Even from last year, but still they got home court. Oh Denver at home so Oh Minnesota was three. Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's three. Yep so
Starting point is 00:48:19 Other way around I'd be like It matters and man and that altitude therefore planning that altitude in that fourth quarter at all is real Yeah, when you when your emotion been here all game and you got to try to keep it here in the last five six minutes of the fourth quarter They young I get it feel like this That's a thing First quarter game one. Especially game one. It is a thing.
Starting point is 00:48:47 First quarter, game one, first quarter game. Everybody watch Nas Reed and Anthony L. Watch Daniel's lip. It's going to be white as a mug. It's going to be dry. Chapstick. Tyrone Biggs.
Starting point is 00:49:02 For sure. Let's keep it in the Eastern Conference. So with Milwaukee facing elimination in free time sideline, the Bucs supporting cast came through with a team effort to keep the deer from going down by smacking the Pacers in game five. Who watched that game? Who watches that? So Chris Middleton had another big game.
Starting point is 00:49:23 He put up 29 points, 12 rebounds, and 5 assists while battling a janky ankle. Bobby Porter's bounced back from his ejection in the first quarter of game four by dropping a playoff career-high 29 points and 10 rebounds. Three seconds. Get out of there, Bobby. He's staying there as long as he needs. So patience were up early.
Starting point is 00:49:42 You can see Lopez running. Like, you see him down at the block. I've never seen him down there, boy. As Nick mentioned. Is that Pat? Yeah. Pat with the seven. Oh.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Hit him with the two small. So, Pat Bev had 13 points, 12 assists. And Malik Beasley came through with 18 points, going four for six from three. He's been playing well since getting back into the starting lineup. Tyrese Halliburton led the Pacers with 16 points and six dimes. Very mid-performance across the board for the Pacers. Get smacked by the 20-piece. Damn, 25.
Starting point is 00:50:28 They were doing their thing. They were doing their thing. So the Bucks are the first team in NBA history to win a playoff game without their top two scorers in the regular season. You can't refute it. I'm just conveying information that you may or may not appreciate. Said it again. Just conveying information that you may or may not appreciate. Say to the first team in NBA history. Say that again.
Starting point is 00:50:48 First team in NBA history to win a playoff game without their top two scores in the regular season. He coming to new stats all the time. You can try. You can try, Gil. We got time. So from what year? So even from 56. Right?
Starting point is 00:51:05 So from 1956 is what you try to tell me Without your first two star, okay Score because I'm gonna be on the computer all weekend Give you something to do give me your life purpose But what would y'all think about the two bucks Mac in the Pacers in game five? without your honest and Dame? I didn't watch it. I mean, this is why I was kind of... You got to do a lot, Nick.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Nobody at home knows. They didn't watch it. I'm upset with Bobby Portis getting himself kicked out of that game. That was mean. Come on, you're the most important piece. You were in Middleton, so the fact that you got yourself that riled up to get kicked out of the game,
Starting point is 00:51:47 that basically guaranteed them a win, to come out here now and have 29. Yes, they needed that from you the last game, where this could have been a whole different series. So, you know, I think he did let them down, but, you know, he bounced back. So that's the most important thing. They should have a chance. They ain't coming back next game, right? They're saying both of them might play, but they don't have a chance.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Potentially, potentially. If they both play, I think they got a chance. If they both play, motherfuckers out. They done. You think they ain't got a chance? Man, Giannis ain't coming back, bro. Have you noticed they always do it in the playoff? It's like it's a scare tactic, right?
Starting point is 00:52:27 We always, you know, they might come back so we can do a whole scouting report on these two. Like, like. Got to. I got it, but when they don't show up, I know who y'all got out there. You better have them motherfuckers warm up or something. You better. But Dane was questionable for this game, right?
Starting point is 00:52:46 I think I did not play miss the second straight game. What are you into hurting? What is three two? Yeah, it's three two Pacers now going back to Indiana for game six Okay, what is the Bucks ability to overcome without their stars say about the talent they have on their roster? The NBA players they get paid to do a damn job Fair show up play hard the talent they have on their roster. The NBA players, they get paid to do a damn job. Fair. Show up, play hard, follow the game plan. Ain't hard to do. Especially when you're under, I'm saying you're underhand.
Starting point is 00:53:17 And when you ain't got your guys, it's easy to follow their game plan and play harder. Trust me. When you're missing 60 points, damn. Yeah, yeah. I'm just like... Okay, talent for talent
Starting point is 00:53:31 right now, right? We're focusing on, you know, those two. Talent for talent right now, who has the best talent between the two? Between those two? So the Bucks without Damianis
Starting point is 00:53:42 versus the Pacers with their fully healthy squad? I would say Damianis. Well, obviously not. No, I'm just saying, like, you got... I mean, you have Hallenberg and you have... Hallenberg, yeah. Siakam.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Siakam. Right? Miles Turner. Miles Turner. I mean, Middleton and Porter, Portis. I mean, shit. I mean, they're not all-stars stars but they put up the same production. They're the same caliber.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Miles Turner, Brook Lopez balances out. Hallenburton and Chris Middleton right now balances out. Then you got Siakam. You got Siakam or Bobby. Bobby Portis. Or you can go Siakam and Bobby Portis or Middleton. However you want to put it. I think it all balances out, like, talent-wise.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Right? Yeah. Because Chris Middleton and up his place since the guy's been out. Yep. Like, we thought he could. A healthy Chris Middleton can actually, is a really, really, really good basketball player. People understand that.
Starting point is 00:54:41 He's just been hurt the last couple, like, he had a rough year. Yeah, even in this playoffs, you know, sprained ankle it like so but you know, it's not it's it's kind of like near Right there. All right. So let's talk about a little bit about you get a Malik B's to make shots. Yeah wildcard yeah for sure Yeah, Malik what yeah? Yeah corner and Google so Three for you. Yeah at 18. So you ain't account for like he give you 18 That's
Starting point is 00:55:16 What about the coaching comparison you get 13 for? Pat better you know 13 and 12 13 and 12 So do you give you the same thing? Right? Yes. So it's a game right there. Guys, guys shorthanded. We have a game plan. Pat brought in about 38 points. Yeah, total. 13. Indiana got a few threes early doc called the a timeout, addressed it, or during the timeout he addressed it. They're getting wide open looks, don't overhelp, don't do this. You know what?
Starting point is 00:55:51 That's what got us beat last game. You're right. Staying home, they started making plays. They was down 10 early. Yeah, that's great. Doc's a great coach. Told you. He's the greatest coach I know.
Starting point is 00:56:04 You play for him? No, no, no, you. He's the greatest coach I know. I know. You play for him? No, no, no, no. But... He's the greatest coach I know. You play for him, right? Yo, you still doing this thing? I never play for Doc. We thought you came back to the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:56:14 No, I came back to the Lakers, but because I picked Doc, I can't bash my coach. Lakers still playing basketball? No. Ken, you're well aware. We had a memorial service earlier this week. Like, I almost...
Starting point is 00:56:24 To be honest I almost took I almost took yesterday off from watching games my Then I was like, you know what? I still got two more teams there. It is hard to watch Remainder of the post it's hard for me to throw my spirit into another day. That's just hard It's like a side cheek. I can just give you a little bit. I thought you like winners Well, I like Lakers. When I was with them, they wasn't winning like that. When I was with them, they wasn't winning like that.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Let's talk a little bit about Chris Middleton's battle injuries throughout the season. Averaging 27, nine rebounds, five assists in the series, shooting nearly 50% from the field, 37% from three. So what do you just think about Middleton's performance in this series and stepping up the way he has? Don't forget, he was the scorer before the guys got there, before Dame came. I'm saying when Drew Holiday was there, he was a defender.
Starting point is 00:57:28 So Chris Middleton was Batman, I mean Robin to... so I'm not surprised. A healthy Chris Middleton, he's averaging a cool 22, 23, like, on that team. So, nah, I'm not surprised that he's averaging what he is in this series and putting his team in position, like, to have some success. Like, I'm not surprised at all. And do you guys feel like he's underrated? No, he made an all-star. He made an all-star.
Starting point is 00:58:00 He made an all-star that year. You said that don't mean he's not underrated. That wasn't his. No, I think he's right where he's at. Yeah, I don't think that means he not underrated. That wasn't his. I think he right where he at. Yeah, I don't think that mean he underrated. He just play with a guy that gets all the attention. Yeah, and then people don't really watch the Bucks anyway like that, so. You know, but I like the fact that he could have easily been sidelined or played hurt,
Starting point is 00:58:20 not played hurt, but then played a game game, but even playing through all the little injuries. He got still going out there for his team and You know sacrificing while two stars is sitting on the sidelines So like I mentioned averaging 27 27 is shit. Yeah picked up the slack man for Damian is being out He's a three-time all-star three-time all-star Yeah, why why you say like that Chris Miller? There can't be a three-time All-Star? He can't have the same amount of All-Star appearances as yourself?
Starting point is 00:58:48 I used to call him Baby Joe. Joe Johnson. But just, so you got to look at the totality of it, O'Gill. He plays in the Eastern Conference. Mm-hmm. Right? Since he's been there, since they've been, got a championship, right? Within this time frame.
Starting point is 00:59:08 They've been one or two in the Eastern Conference throughout the duration. That's what irritates me. But it is what it is, though. They've always done it. Balls and putting four guys from one fucking team. That team from Atlanta. That team, like, they've been doing it. I know.
Starting point is 00:59:23 It's a problem, but... and then they want players to take it Hard, why am I gonna take it hard? I'm playing against a third option. Yeah, and it's motherfucker Like there's motherfucker fourth option on his team and you telling me I supposed to go hard in this game playing against No, no, no option when it was all-star I'm just talking about what they do like like didn't Cal court But that's what I'm saying, it's like it's hell of a shooter that's Cal all-star Fucking top 100 in the great shooter, but let's let's stop the bullshit 10 to 11 12 like
Starting point is 01:00:03 But that's the stuff that just sits back you sit back and think like like All-star means the best 24 on earth right is the best 24 meaning there's there's This group of starters right the best out of them, right? So if there's a guy on the team and his team ain't good, but he's averaging 26 and 13, that is an all-star. You can't tell me, oh, this guy, he's the second-best player on this team or the third-best player on this team, and he gets to make it because his team is number one.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I can see two. You can see two, though, because it make it because his team is number one. I can see two. You can see two though because it's a reason why they're number one. Yeah, I can understand that's when two guys. But the thing is if you take this star that doesn't make it, you take him off his team and then you put this second or third option on the team, now he's the focal... Remember, some of these guys are making the All-Star, they're not even the focal point on their team. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:01:03 There's no defense over here saying, all right, we're about to double you, dog. Like, nah, we doubling you, you getting the leftover. Niggas focus on Carver. And like, what I'm saying, it's not like you have teams where it's like, all right, AD and LeBron, Kobe and Shaq. But if, let's say Lakers number one, and then D'Lo with his eight team make the All-Star. He'll make it. But there's going to be a guy who has 27 in 10. That team wasn't good, but he didn't make it.
Starting point is 01:01:36 If you're the third option, you're the third option, god damn it. Now, so you got him. He's three-time All-Star, never made the All-NBA. Of course, he's never going to make thestar never made the all NBA. Of course. She's never gonna make all he's not Relax, but what do you put like that happened to like the market's cousin on the Kings? He was averaging shit. The Kings just cursed cuz Sabonis average that shit this year didn't make that motherfucker neither So they play in Sacramento. We've been established that dang. That's unfortunate. The NBA has no love for Sacramento No, like this year they kind of got it.
Starting point is 01:02:05 They left them because they keep them in Sacramento. Yeah, like, this year they kind of got it. Like, they got it all right this year. There was nobody that was really on it that was like, ah, you're here because of your team. There really wasn't that many people. Nah, nah. You could probably find one, but there was, like,
Starting point is 01:02:17 there was been some years where you're like, yo, y'all need to stop this team shit, huh? They don't do it for Murray. Murray should have been an all-star. No, he didn't. Not this year. Not this year. Not this year,
Starting point is 01:02:29 but I'm saying he's been there. And they've been number one for a couple years. I'm surprised they ain't done it to him. That's what I'm saying. He's not even last year. So we asked to chat. And you had to take him over,
Starting point is 01:02:42 Steph or Dame. Yeah, see, it becomes like that. Like Trae Young, right? Steph, Dame. What they're doing to him is like. Yeah, that's crazy. I said, what they do to Trae Young. Oh, yeah, that's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:02:56 It's the best 24. It's not the best 24 that's on winning teams. And who you like. Yeah, who you like. They just don't like Trae. That's messed up. and who you like. Yeah, who you like. They just don't like Trey. That's messed up. One of the most. Somebody told me, like, yo, somebody got mad
Starting point is 01:03:12 because I wouldn't put a six-man. I said, I'm sorry, look, a six-man is a six-man, right? If we're going to rank players, I would never put him in front of a starter because he doesn't have the same responsibility, right? A six-man is a backseat driver. Right? Right?
Starting point is 01:03:28 You got the starters. I'm just saying, you got the starters. They're in good directions, dude. You got the starters or you got the dude in the backseat, right? Now, think about we're trying to get somewhere. What is the backseat? You need me to get there. Do I?
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yes. What I do? Everything. You get to be on the phone. You get to go to sleep. You get to eat. You get to play around. You don't got no responsibility. My responsibility is when you get out the game and I get
Starting point is 01:03:54 in. But there's four other people in front of you. There's four other people in front of you to drive. The thing is, it's going to be two good scores. Because whoever in the passenger seat is going to take the wheel. But the other three in the front seat just there to play defense. Nah, the other three in the front seat are just there to play defense. Nah, but it's still...
Starting point is 01:04:08 A six-man is to come in and do more than just... But you have no responsibility of making sure we get to this destination safe. Right? So how can I... Nobody had no responsibility? No. You must be high. How can I put him in front of a starter who had to carry his team?
Starting point is 01:04:25 I can't. This man, I don't give a fuck if you ever see him. Lamar didn't mean nothing on the Lakers when he was a six-man. Six-man. So you just say, fuck Lamar. He don't need Lamar. I'm saying he needs it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:04:37 We need it. I'm saying I can never put these guys in front of someone who was a lead dog. I can't say, oh, Ginobili, he's better than a Westbrook. Like, never in my... We can say he's the best six-man ever. Okay. You the best six-man. You the best first nigga off the bench.
Starting point is 01:04:57 Shit. You know what I mean? You want to do that? I want to go with who matched together, too. If you know a man that matched with this person... Like if somebody say, all right, Stalberry, who's better,
Starting point is 01:05:06 Stalberry or Ginobili? 1,000% Stalberry. Ginobili never had no responsibility of this. Like you're, like you was getting driven by two people. What responsibility
Starting point is 01:05:18 are you talking about? The first five minutes? What do you mean first five minutes? Yeah, the first five minutes. Ginobili was finishing the game. Yeah, he finished the game., the first five minutes. Because you know he was finishing the game. Yeah, he finished the game.
Starting point is 01:05:26 You know he finished the game. Yeah, but still finishing the game. We're going to go to Tim. We can go to, what's the name? That's it. You third. You out there sitting there running around, doing whatever you want to do.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Come on, I played with you. You have no responsibility, bro. Shit. Nick, wake up. Oh, my bad, dog. Good year. Nick, do you agree dog good year do you agree with or do you disagree I disagree
Starting point is 01:05:50 of course you're going to disagree you need me you need me focus without me he would have to pass it to
Starting point is 01:05:58 Deshaun Stevenson you see what I mean you put like the it don't matter I got to pass it but look I got to that's what I'm saying but you don't matter. I got a patlister. But look, I got a...
Starting point is 01:06:06 But you don't have to worry about time, score, knowing the plays. You have me doing this. Wrong side, dog. Get over there. Oh, my bad. Now come off. Okay, now go back. Now come off. There we go. Get him. Right? That's... See? You see? You see? But do you see how that works? How many games have you been like, yo, go get them, Gil,
Starting point is 01:06:28 or how many games like, yo, D-Wade, get D-Wade. Come on. Yeah, yeah. Right? That's what the starter got to do, right? You get to come in. You get to come in and just eat, dog. You need to cook.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Thank you. That's what I'm saying. We just come over like Thanksgiving, right? There's a chef and there's a second chef, right? We just come over and we just come over and eat and leave leave talk. We ain't got to worry about cooking the dishes We got worried about clean that motherfucker up, right? So I can't say about fucking weed coming in this eaters It ain't about who started about who finished it. You can hear that from you know, hey you cause all your That was a good way to sit your stupid ass or the bitch
Starting point is 01:07:04 He is telling you wasn't smart enough the story That was a good way to sit your stupid ass on the bitch. He was basically telling you you wasn't smart enough to start, goddammit. No, because you got to go for people who match with each other. If me and you don't match, there's certain worlds for people. If fucking Jada Daniel matched better with you because you're going to shoot, he's going to play down. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:07:20 That fits better for the team. I get that, but what I'm saying, I can never give a dude that didn't have the responsibilities of a starter. I can't say you are better than him because you had team success. Your five rings, you didn't get the five
Starting point is 01:07:36 rings because you're individual by yourself. You had two people in front of you that carried the load. I can't say, all right, your five rings is worth five rings. No, these rings was because of these two people. You helped, but you helped as a third party, right? So I can't say, all right, you were better than this dude.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Yeah, he didn't win shit, but that was his team. He was the lead car. Yeah, he crashed that motherfucker a couple times, but he was in the driver's seat to crash that bitch. You never had to drive. Are you talking about winning or just points? I'm just talking about as a player. That's what I'm saying. So basically, all I'm saying is...
Starting point is 01:08:16 He's taking winning. I'm taking winning. All I'm saying is this, dawg. Stop. Leave me alone. I'm just saying, when the league is broken up into who's who, you in six man, there's a category of six man. Yeah, I know what you're talking about, man. I get it. Right?
Starting point is 01:08:33 So, Ginobili is the GOAT in six man, and then everybody GOAT is either him, Jamal Crawford, Lou Willis. They the front runners of the first motherfucker off the pitch, all right? And then there's the group of starters. It's them, right? So it's bitch, six man to the last. So first bitch nigga, the GOAT, you know, like we got Michael Jordan and LeBron and Kobe. Y'all got...
Starting point is 01:08:54 No, no, no, no, no, no. You can't say that. You can't say that. You can't say that. Because you got goddamn... People look at... Josh Hart. Last place. They got Josh Hart. Last place.
Starting point is 01:09:05 They got Josh Hart. He's on the bottom end of starters. He's on the bottom end of starters. No, no, hell no. So you going to put Josh Hart over Ginobili? Bottom end of starters. No, see, you can't say that. Bottom end of starters, though.
Starting point is 01:09:14 No, you can't say that. Y'all got to go. Who's y'all go? What do you mean, who's I go? Who's your go? Expect us like that, bro. This game very disrespectful. This game very disrespectful. Jamal Crawford. Jamal Crawford. Being very disrespectful.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Jamal Crawford. Yeah. Jamal? Yeah, yeah. Spiffy, every team he played for. Yeah. So you have Jamal as the best six-man ever? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:36 That makes sense. So we asked the chat, is Chris Middleton underrated? 50% said yes. 50% said no. 50% said no. We got to split. Oh, that's where it started at said no. 50% said no. We got a split. Oh, that's where it started at? Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Y'all don't know what the Bucks are going for. It started as the third option. So after the game, Doc Rivers was asked about the status of Dame and Giannis heading into game six and said, I think they're very, very, very close. It was three verys. Think they're very, very, very close. But between Giannis and Dame,
Starting point is 01:10:02 who do the Bucks need the most right now to increase their chances of winning this series Both of them both of them If you could only pick one Who this series who you what I was between yannis and dame I would say dame I'll take yannnis right now. Oh everybody healthy? Healthy? No, just playing in this game if they're going to play. Which one I would say Dane. The way the way the way the style is played I would say Dane. But that's just my... Who you rolling with Gil? Who you rolling with Gil?
Starting point is 01:10:45 Who you rolling with Gil? You saying Giannis right? Yeah I'm saying Giannis. Cause they ain't like- Giannis gonna give you free throws and gonna attack. They stay dead. Unless you give me Portland Dane. Portland Dane.
Starting point is 01:11:00 She wasn't that game one guy day. I Go, I'm gonna go I'm a bird. They have those here. I ain't never seen you. They do that 30 I'm gonna go I'm gonna go Dame because it seemed like everybody the shots that everybody needs comes from Damien and Giannis All right, so I'm gonna do a little looking ahead if the Bucks ares are able to survive this series and have Damon Giannis available. Bro, why are we talking about the Bucs? He's not coming back. That Achilles is gone.
Starting point is 01:11:30 So let's not even put this. What happened? You heard this. Achilles is gone. His calf. Low calf. Oh, like the dude, KD? Yeah, low calf.
Starting point is 01:11:40 So we know what that is. He ain't coming back. So let's not even pretend to tell the Bucs that these two dudes is gonna be coming back game six in Indiana Gotta have hope Gilka. Hey, yes, can I know where her works at? But she has off day dames to come back She's a what is wrong with a I know it's just Achilles Achilles to know hamstring, oh No, y''re this is the calf And
Starting point is 01:12:12 Damien half and Achilles so Damon so okay so both Achilles so no No boy. No, man. All right, they're gonna go to Indiana. They're gonna go any end with the same team They went in Indy played in Indiana Last game and the game before that that's it. It's over. Let's stop putting fake. Doc Rivers can't put together another masterful coach. The best coach in the world. He can do it. He can do it. Stop.
Starting point is 01:12:35 He can do it. Listen, it seems like he can coach better with this group versus trying to figure out them two stars playing together. No, I'm serious. Are you serious? Was it easy to coach without me and Karan? I was like, whoa! All right, so the group A, pass the ball around.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Pass the ball around, get back on D. You can't go, hey, man, stop passing the goddamn ball. Pass me the ball! And so, yeah, I feel that he has a better... It seems like there's a lot more relief off of his plate with them two out for him. Because he gets to coach a team. And he don't have to just try to figure out how to coach these two players and fit everybody else.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Coach them two and then coach the team. Do you think y'all style of leadership is harder than this new generation? Like how y'all don't listen. You didn't listen to the coach that often. Do you think people like that do that now? I can see, like, good. What coach? Tap Scott?
Starting point is 01:13:38 I forgot what I was listening to him for. You used to stop playing and call plays for yourself. You think they do that now? Yeah, they still do that. Okay. It's Coach Tapscott, dog. What the hell am I listening to? Yeah, that was sick.
Starting point is 01:13:49 That was crazy. What did he work before he got down there? He was in the office. Man of the assistant or something like that. Who? Coach. His coach. Who?
Starting point is 01:14:00 What up, dude? Tapscott. Tapscott. Tapscott. That wasn't my coach. Yeah, he was like in the office or something doing something with computers, and he was going to come down there and tell me to pass the ball. All right, dog.
Starting point is 01:14:13 He tried to find me when he first got down there. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can send that motherfucker up. He ain't going to come back down. He did. They better not take no money out of my goddamn check. Talking about being late. Brother.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Like that, like that. Nah I'm being late Like that like that Like this Like that I feel cold was like that Wars is like that Is it that generation like Like they were listening to Steve Kerr But it was like they did they you know, they did them too like they wave some plays off and did they oh shit Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah, they still do that man sit your ass down You think the plays Luca and Kyrie out there doing it's fucking the kids JZ get run
Starting point is 01:15:04 Oh, no, ain't nobody sick like You think the plays with Luca and Kyrie out there doing it's fucking the kids Jason can't run By sick like These niggas are sick now Cold I see how cold would fuck that give me the ball Fuck that play give me the ball and we just look like okay, huh? So it's like I wonder do they, do you think they still do that? I don't know if you watch, I don't know if you watch James Harden's offense.
Starting point is 01:15:33 But that's a part of that. Oh, he's seen that. I don't know what plays they run. I don't know if there's some turn fives in there or nothing, but I know when he get it. You think Max is coming down and doing that? I don't think he's verbalizing saying it. I think he's young. I don't think he's verbalizing it,
Starting point is 01:15:51 but I'm pretty sure the Suns, I'm pretty sure they was... I'm pretty sure the Clippers is... He was like that, too. That's what I'm saying. That generation, y'all was crazy, but it's true. Were you like that?'m saying that generation. I was crazy Were you like that? Yeah Just I'm not gonna we this is this is the thing but Nick is saying yeah, we're out there playing
Starting point is 01:16:26 We're not gonna let you fuck it up as a coach. Right? You call something, we don't think we're running that dog. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, just Melo done scored 16 straight, and you come out and run a play for me, I'm going to tell you no. Right? Like, no, we're not running that, dog. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:16:47 JR got it going. You come out and run a play for Mello. No. No, dog. I understand Mello. No. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:57 That's what I'm saying. I don't think they can do that. Or you want to come out and guard Kobe this way, and he... No. He's torturous. Mm-hmm. So in that I'm different And that athletic report on the Lakers that they mentioned that during games that ham would draw plays in the brown No, no, that's not no He's a part of that if you a basketball do what I'm saying is if you a basketball player and you have any sense
Starting point is 01:17:22 Come down and Anthony Davis and score seven eight nine straight yes yeah I call a 77 see that one but see what was happened with the Lakers again that wouldn't happen back back then no again he was going nine straight you come out and call the sevens they gave that wish you will come set us turn for yeah turn for yep turn it back show. Get your big ass down there. Even if he shot two jumpers. What you would come out here and try to set a pick and roll,
Starting point is 01:17:50 you just scored seven, 11 straight points. You come out there to try to set a pick. You was forced to be, what's so funny is like, you were forced to be aggressive in the number one option.
Starting point is 01:18:01 If you was on the billboard and motherfuckers looked at you like you the franchise, you had motherfuckers know you gonna be the franchise, goddammit. You not gonna delegate your goddamn responsibility. Hey, kid, get your ass down there, okay? Yeah. You ain't gonna... No, that ain't the post-up. Get your ass down.
Starting point is 01:18:16 Like, make me catch... Dude, this is... We playing certain... I don't want to call nobody out. We playing certain guys, and we... You know, my eyes like this. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? We playing certain, I don't want to call nobody out, we playing certain guys and he know my eyes like this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:30 He, hey, we turn four. Turn four. Now I done spin lobbed you and doom. Now I'm catching the ball wherever I want to catch it now because you afraid. Afraid, yeah. Yeah. No, no, you got to, like I said, you got to, we said the other day, you got to milk shit.
Starting point is 01:18:42 And that's what we was doing. We was milking plays, man. You got to. For sure. And B milks his play. Yeah. Right? Jokic milks his two plays.
Starting point is 01:18:52 Yeah. Right? That's what I said. When you look at the championship teams and you look at how they played, besides Golden State, right, that one year where they won being undersized, for the most part, every championship team has been tall, agile. Right? And they stuck to, they're going, the way they play is they're milking it. I mean, you have outliers like Milwaukee, but they got two big dudes.
Starting point is 01:19:25 Right? It wasn't a small team. They wasn't a small ball team. Right, Giannis is sitting there getting fouled. He's at the free throw line. I think he went 15 for 15 for free throws. Like he's, you know what I mean? He's milking the things he do. Right, and that's.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Yeah, like he wasn't the best shooter, but he getting like, you know. I ain't gonna force it either. Right? But he shoot air ball. Come down that bitch's next possession and shoot it again. Like, then if he shoot miss that, he gonna attack. No, it's just, yeah, you have to know where your bread is buttered at.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Right? And teams don't do that. They don't do enough of it. And if you out there would like your bread buttered, go ahead and download the Underdog Fantasy app. Use promo code GILD. It will match your first deposit up to $100. So let's talk about the Pacers a little bit.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Draymond Green has plenty of time for podcasting with the Warriors missing the playoffs. So during a recent episode of his Draymond Green show, this is before game two, he had this to say about the Pacers in the regular season versus the Pacers in the regular season versus the pacers in the playoff they haven't defended anybody all year they had if i'm not mistaken a 142 to 140 game this year regulation it took you 142 points to win in regulation they haven't
Starting point is 01:20:36 guarded all year yet their offense has been so high power you got to defend when it comes playoff time you can't just run in transition you're going to have to execute in the half court because the other team is going to not just turn the ball over. This is the playoffs. Yes, their offense was high power. Yes, it was off the charts. But a lot of that was because they were just outrunning teams. You got to execute now. That's a different thing. I do think the Pacers are an 82-game team, not a 16-game team. Not overreacting to one game. I told y'all this before, but they can't make many adjustments to what they do. You're a running team. You don't defend.
Starting point is 01:21:09 You're not changing that in game 84, 85. That is who you are. As I mentioned before, Dre said this before game two, prior to game missing, game four and five, but let's play a little game of facts or cap. The Pacers are an 82 game and not a 16-game team. Facts or cap? Ken, are an 82 game and not a 16 game team facts or cap
Starting point is 01:21:25 Can you will start with you? Think it's fat stripes and Z stripes and leopards and zebras and spots come to mind Yeah, I don't think you can change them. So I Agree with that Nick how about yourself? Pays for 82?
Starting point is 01:21:46 Yeah. Team game or 62? Yeah, I say facts. So you say facts as well? Yeah. Just because, um, I don't know. I don't see them doing too much, and they do just run and gun.
Starting point is 01:22:02 They ain't got really a true, true superstar to me. So, yeah. Gil, how about yourself? Facts. I mean, they remind me of lesser talent like Phoenix Suns back in the day. Right, where it's all offense, no scoring. And, you know, Draymond Green gets to make the better point because his team was all offense,
Starting point is 01:22:34 but they were a great defensive team too, which nobody really, like, paid attention to. So they did play good defense. They had the ability to lock you down while still being a fast-paced team. Indiana had no defense in mind. They was high-powered and
Starting point is 01:22:53 fast, throwing that ball up the court, but when it was time to just lock down and slow the ball down and say, all right, if we keep moving fast, this team gets to play that style, so let's just lock it down in down and have court and just make it a defensive game Right and they had the ability to do that Golden State had the ability that Pacers don't have the ability to slow the game down and say alright
Starting point is 01:23:16 We're gonna we're gonna defend on the other end right so they're trying to figure out how to just outscore you and not realize them. You lost by 20-something to a team that don't have, they can't even keep up with scoring. So, you know. Yeah, that's true. Let Pat Bev cook you. They gave up on me. Let Pat Bev cook you. The over-exaggerated too small in the playoffs. So when it comes to the Pac being an 82 game team and not
Starting point is 01:23:46 a 16 game team facts so for you gentlemen how much does the game change offensively in the regular season compared to the playoffs no it's the same thing draymond said you got to execute you got to execute you can't shortcut plays you got to set screens you got to execute. You can't shortcut plays. You got to set screens. You got to cut hard. You got to be efficient in your... and you're getting open. Efficient? Yeah. Yeah. It's... Counting the shots.
Starting point is 01:24:12 You know, you got to be deliberate in your approach. Yeah. Paying attention to details. So regular season, like... Nicola threw a couple regular season passes the other day. Yeah, and it was bad turnovers late regular season pass It was regular season passes and I'm like the hell you doing dude. Oh, yeah almost cost. That's your right them long pass To the motherfuckers. I'm like dude them now them that's game 35 pass. Yeah. Yeah So there's a difference. Yeah. Had them throughout the game, you know.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Like, even, like, you can look at a team and say they're not disciplined to win it. Like, you know, as, you know, I didn't get far in the playoffs, one, because I watched so much basketball, when you're watching, when you're watching games and you want to see what teams are clicking, all you do is just look at the things that they're doing, right? Like they turn the ball over, all five is getting back on defense, right? Right. They're all five getting back on defense. The last five minutes, what is the turnover ratio? So when you say like somebody like Embiid had nine turnovers, right? When you're trying to win a championship, those are not, you don't have games like that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Those are the, like, so that means he's still careless. Yeah, he can win a series. The championship, that has to be embedded in you game one, two, five, right? You're not going to just click over. Like, the habits are already been into you. So if you're having, when you're talking about championship pedigree, you're looking really at Boston, Miami, Denver, Minnesota. Minnesota, right? The habits of how they played, right?
Starting point is 01:26:09 You know, keeping, you know, getting back all five or trying to rebound. Like, you don't really see too many gapping holes inside of their structure. And those are the teams that... To his point, you're not giving up 22, 23 offensive rebounds to the team. Just not.
Starting point is 01:26:31 And then do it again and another, like multiple times in the series, it's just those little things that... But when you can go, you ain't getting it. Yeah. Like that's what I'm saying, like yeah, you can't rely on my fucking like you yet We had 30 fast break points today like yeah that You got to score it at one of those So how important is to be able to play in the half court in the postseason?
Starting point is 01:26:59 That's when you need that's when true buckets come out. I think like that's when you see who could really play Because the they strength the court you got to see this person See that's when that's when like when that's when the third option that's when No, that's when like someone like a Ginobili is very important in your in your series because the way he played, right, his style of half-court style, you know, the way he can, you know, cut, slash, right, he is, like, a very important piece on a championship team.
Starting point is 01:27:38 If you don't really have a guy like that that can just alter your offense and change it and put in a... He scored 13 in a row, right? It'd be hard for you. Play, yeah. You need those guys on your championship team. Like, you know, like you have Michael Porter, right?
Starting point is 01:27:55 You can see in a series, that's him, right? You know what I mean? He's that dude. Same thing with Gordon. But for the most part, everybody is solid, right? You know what everyone's going to give you. Then you need someone that's, when thing with Gordon, but for the most part, everybody is solid, right? You know what everyone's going to give you. Then you need someone that's, when everything is tight, you have a random dude that can just go out there and just heat up, and you're like, oh, god damn it.
Starting point is 01:28:13 And even with Kenyon and them, right? Kenyon, that team, you have the Detroit Pistons team. You have these teams that they're structurally so sound. It's like to beat them, you either have to be super talented, but still be together. Yeah. Right? So when you're talking about, oh, we lost to the Lakers,
Starting point is 01:28:40 okay, that makes sense. The Lakers make sense because you have Kobe, Shaq, and then you have Foundation. So the only team that can beat them is also Foundation with a little bit more offense. That was Detroit. People didn't realize you had
Starting point is 01:28:57 four dudes that shot the ball from outside. You had four dudes that spread the floor against them. So now when you're talking about all right Shaq who you gonna guard you're gonna guard Ben Wallace down there all right and then all right Carmelo where you gonna get your ass on a goddamn three-point line with uh Rasheed or vice versa Shaq get your ass out of the lane and sit there so you know it's it's building the whole structure of the team and not allowing undisciplined basketball
Starting point is 01:29:26 like when even when Harden you know my guy when Harden was playing it's like there's things he does in a game that you have to clean up individually like you done hit two threes in a row you can't shoot a 50 footer like there's no heat checks
Starting point is 01:29:42 you can't heat check in the playoffs trying to win a playoff series. There's none of that. Or you turned the ball at half court and looked at the ref and do this and just gave up two free points. And you're doing that three or four times a game, which is eight points that you just gave up doing this shit. We saw that a lot in the Lakers Nuggets series.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Extremely disappointing. Yeah, you can't do that in the playoffs. A lot of that. You can't give up those. You didn't get the call big dog get back That's from that that's how Porter hit that big three. Yeah Those are the but those are the little things the big three cost you doing that That's buddy. Yeah twice, right?
Starting point is 01:30:19 That game to get that game to three right mother. Could you stopped. Yeah, motherfucker. You'll be a little playing. Yeah Okay, still planning get the offensive rebound kick out. Yeah, that's shit like yes We gotta keep playing 50 50 get who can get the most 50 50 balls Gotta keep playing and what are fans biggest misconceptions about the post is? And be honest, I don't know. We don't give a fuck. No, we don't know what they talk about. We don't know what they talk about.
Starting point is 01:30:50 You were a fan now, kid. I don't hang out with regulars. I don't hang out with regulars. No, let me phrase that. It's tough to watch basketball with just anybody. Yeah. Right? It is tough to watch basketball with just anybody. Yeah. Right? It is.
Starting point is 01:31:07 It's tough. It is. Because we look at it in a whole different light. Like, they watch it as actual fans. Fans. Yeah. I can never sit there and watch a basketball game and not critique it. Just not see shit. At any level?
Starting point is 01:31:24 Yes. Yes. But that's what it is. See, like, as a basketball player, we're not choosing a side. We're watching the game. Oh, that's a good pass. Horrible D. Good pass.
Starting point is 01:31:34 You know, we're on both sides of it, right? So, like, we're just looking for the good game. Oh, that was good. Like, I'm watching Kyle Lowry, right? And Kyle Lowry did a play where, was it Brunson? When he fell on the ground. Brunson fell and he shot the three on him. He ran over him. And then laughed at him.
Starting point is 01:31:51 And Brunson don't know what the fuck that's going on. Now he knows. He just learned this little trick inside the NBA. When you fall on the ground, you are not in a defensive legal position. So what ends up happening? You have a motherfucker like Kyle Lowry. Let's just say that was Brunson's
Starting point is 01:32:11 fourth foul. Or fifth. Or fifth. Boom. He just got him out of the game. Right. That fast. That fast. So refs have to call that best. Hell yeah. You have to. You have to call. Yes. That was part of the show. Who was the player? You're not called. Listen, four people getting kicked out. Coach, Kyle Larson kicked out. There's going to be mayhem in that business. In the playoff series, you don't call that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:34 But that's the same thing where you're running straight down, and the motherfucker turn his head, and then the motherfucker just stop in front of him. Boom. Yeah, get your ass out of here. Right? The smarts come out in the playoffs, man. You better. Got to.
Starting point is 01:32:50 The smarts come out in the playoffs. That was the same. Yeah, I'm watching that like, oh that's a good ass play. Come on, Brunson. I know you got to get better than that. Yeah, I'm being out there. As a fan at home watching that. They don't know what the hell like what the Brunson do But like yeah, yeah, we just never I never can just Like I said watch it and I'm enjoying like you said we enjoying the game and last couple game I'm just like missing good-ass basketball been played and I appreciate it. Yeah some dumb motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:33:22 I hear it trust me that bothers me, but here playing. Trust me. That bothers me, but there's some good games going on. There's some good games going on. With some dumb basketball players in them. Even when you heard me
Starting point is 01:33:32 on my live with LeBron, when I'm talking about the Lakers, I'm killing my players on each one, raising them. You can see my, I'm bipolar on a game.
Starting point is 01:33:42 But you can see, I've never said, but I've never said nothing negative about the other team, even though that's the enemy. But you can see, I've never said nothing negative about the other team, even though that's the enemy. But as a fan, I can only give my energy to my team. I don't even have enough energy
Starting point is 01:33:54 to be booing you motherfuckers over here. Fuck you. It's here. Don't sub him. I can only focus on him. Now when I'm just watching the game for itself, I'm on both sides. I'm so bad with the critiquing and watching. Just say if I'm just watching the game for itself I'm on both sides like I'm so bad with the critiquing and watching like I'm going just if I'm going to watch my boys play right I get there early enough most games where I'm not even I'm watching the other team warm up
Starting point is 01:34:16 yeah you want to see what let me see what's going on my son no I just want to know what yeah like I'm looking at skills and I'm watching you can shoot a No, I just want to see who can do what. Like, I'm looking at skills. You can see it. He can shoot a little bit. Yeah, how you run, how you jump, how you land, how you passing the ball to your next teammate in the layup line. Yep. Like, how your release is on your shot. Like, I'm looking at it.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Oh, what kind of shoes you got on. I'm critiquing your whole. Get everybody from one through five. How many players on the other team? Possibility of threat. Yeah. Who's going to be a threat over there, goddammit?
Starting point is 01:34:49 How quickly does it take you to recognize warm-ups? Warm-ups? A couple times. Warm-ups. I mean, I think, obviously I don't play at y'all level, but I can do the same thing. I'm checking rims, I'm checking, alright, what's this kid doing? What's he like to do? Alright, this kid can't shoot, we letting him get it.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Trying to figure out who got that bounce. Like, you trying to, okay'm checking, all right, what's this kid doing, what's he like to do? All right, this kid can't shoot, we letting him get it. Trying to figure out who got that bounce, like you trying to, okay, this kid is down. I love my fuck on his tippy toe, he on a tippy toe, he on a tippy toe ass nigga, okay. Like, it's the only ones, they be them little skinny light skin boys you don't know can jump. You be like, all right, whoa, what the fuck is that?
Starting point is 01:35:20 The little thin miss that just got that ultra boost. Yeah, I'm doing an NBA game, so then it's just on another level when I'm watching the best in the world do it right and I'm sitting I'm like That's why I asked me about somebody I can say whether I Give my honest opinion on it because I didn't watch and if I haven't watched I'd say no I ain't watched him enough right I'm gonna tell you exactly what it is with it because I didn't watch it and I didn't process it in real time. I don't need to sit down and watch film to tell you tendencies and shit like that. I can process the shit and tell you right.
Starting point is 01:35:54 He's going left, he's doing this, he's gonna spin back, he's gonna pump fake, stay down. They'll be like, damn, how you? I saw them do the move four times in the game yesterday Right down on the puffer But that's why when and this is not a knocker this is not against, you know Luke in his defense right they had him as a great defensive player. Oh three for 17 and then The next game he looks regular again, right? Oh, damn, he's horrible. Right? He's really horrible. Right? Because now they're like, oh, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 01:36:29 I took some bad shots, you know, just trying to push him shit, but let me just show you how good his defense is. And then they just blow him by him, and then Lucas just is like, ah. Two fouls early. Two fouls early. Put him in that trick bag. You can't, like, you're watching a game because someone told you this is what it is.
Starting point is 01:36:47 If you watch the game, you can see what defense is, where help is, and you can see where bad plays are being made. So you can't just throw out titles because motherfuckers get irritated and say, all right. You said he stopped me? I bet. Let me show you stop. Motherfuckers sit down like this. Hey. Ole. Hey. Like, you know what I mean? Let me show you stop my focus in other day Olay
Starting point is 01:37:08 Thanks But for me is like He don't do nothing. He didn't do nothing different The team the team defense wasn't there today I didn't get the load up in time. Motherfuckers didn't play with the ball. They just took off now. So that's the difference between watching the game and studying the game.
Starting point is 01:37:32 How annoying is it when people try to, regular human beings, try to have conversations with you? Damn, they want to fight. It's fucking rough. How the fuck are you going to tell me that I played against against motherfucker every game Like God
Starting point is 01:37:49 Look at me you don't watch Got me polite about it. Oh that one of the games and no the rest of the one the referees that won the high school game You know, maybe thinking they know it all and all the world and before he looked around he's need to learn the game and before he looked and said who like that it was me talking he'd look like shit what this game here this high school game this high school game yeah oh this high school game that you're talking about oh they hit you with this high school rules mother tried to tell me I like but it's so therefore, I don't know. So they say that, right?
Starting point is 01:38:27 Man, I hate that. I hit him with the rebuttal, but is it in the rule book of basketball? Right? You got to try to tell me three seconds, not a popular call, but is it in the rule book? All right. I didn't ask you about the popular. I didn't ask you about the popular. Is it in the rule book?
Starting point is 01:38:42 Right? You buy the pop up gives it a rule book right when you went to this referee school that they had you go to Did was it a part of the three seconds? So fucking with Special when I'm good Count one two Yeah loud as hell man Like make it be known. You got a shack that's posted up in the middle of the land. You can...
Starting point is 01:39:09 Six, seven, nine, twelve, sixteen. I done called out six of them, but three of them is three seconds, goddammit. Shit. Call it. What the fuck? All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. I'm behind this motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:39:23 I ain't got a chance. I'm over here. I'm over here digging. I got two options on the dig. Call three seconds or fake it, because I ain't trying to get my hand broken when he pull it up. You crazy? I ain't really trying to sit. I'm just trying to give a little help.
Starting point is 01:39:39 It's for film. It's for film. This defense is for film. When Coach want to rewind and see who's doing their job. Absolutely. Look at Gil. Gil was digging and helping. Look at Gil.
Starting point is 01:39:50 He was like, back to hands. That's the worst when you know you're about to get killed in film. That's what I'm saying. They don't even know that. Some of this defense is for film, god damn it. This ain't real, D. God damn it. I ain't trying to get in foul trouble. I'm just here because I know we got to watch this shit later.
Starting point is 01:40:07 I'm going to be at the nail. Oh, look at him hustling. Look at him hustling and doing all that. Hey, hold. Relax, dog. I'm not out here really hustling. No, I couldn't get to that ball. See, I need to do more stuff like this.
Starting point is 01:40:22 Y'all need to care more like Gil. See, this is... Fly out of bounds with no reason. Yeah, he's flyin' out of bounds with no reason. Now y'all know, when motherfuckers sit there and do that, it's just for film, dawg. He's trying to get a little bit more playing time, dawg. You know when Thin Nasses, four seconds left,
Starting point is 01:40:40 the Nasses out there? Oh, man. Film. You see? Do you? And then when he got done hit was that like again? Look like I'm out here really going hard for seconds of intense defense was the game decided My partner last night he was disappointed the NASA didn't get here
Starting point is 01:41:00 No, no for real man, it's like I hear man, but I keep like when he gets in People actually like get excited because you know, it's something's something's gonna happen something Either something something good bad or indifferent He gonna give you one person on that seat. He gonna get night really he don't Most important person people don't realize though. He'll get you some like you better come out there He gonna air baller dunk miss the dunk. You go ahead the other side laugh. He gonna have you laugh You're gonna make do a move. You didn't know he had George pull back
Starting point is 01:41:42 Straight to K. They're like suitors the master guard there. He'd be like, all right I'm gonna throw this combo with this combo mixed with this finish Does he know he can't get in trouble he can't Not gonna intro Yeah, we boo and knock on the intro. Yeah. This is the next game. This is it, nigga. Ni hao. You can't do shit. My brother said you can't do nothing. Can't do nothing.
Starting point is 01:42:09 My brother said... Even outside of his brother, he's done created his own little... He got the podcast. He got his own little thing going. He's maximizing. You got to give him his love. I like that. All right, so let's keep this moving.
Starting point is 01:42:21 There's about seven of y'all in the chat complaining that we ever talked about any Cavs magic on the show. We did mention them lightly a few times. We talked about them yesterday. Yeah, we did. We can't talk about them every day. Do they play today? Do they play yesterday?
Starting point is 01:42:35 Like, where were they? They played yesterday, didn't they? I don't know. They did have an NBA playoff game last night. When did the closeout game? I ain't seen that game. No, that was the field, so it's 3-2 They going seven everybody gonna win at home
Starting point is 01:42:56 What's a game seven gonna be the same thing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, most like everybody wanted home everybody gonna win at home This is gonna go tomorrow. They gonna beat the hell out some boys in Orlando. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Most likely, yeah. Everybody won at home. Everybody going to win at home this year. Yeah. They're going to go tomorrow. They're going to beat the hell out of some boys in Orlando. Yeah. And look. Go back to Cleveland. Be in the Ritz, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:14 Ain't nothing changing there. Then have the exit meeting on the way home. That's all. On the plane, exit meeting. All right, we talked about it. Everybody play hard. Both teams play hard. Both teams play hard. the Lakers doing their exit meeting after the game was probably the funniest shit I've ever seen Matt's Christy got a good 44 seconds the extra beating they did that we're not doing a real X
Starting point is 01:43:35 Maybe we'll do right after this guy right now. Yeah, darling can't handle it Like I wouldn't want to have a X me whatever fuck anyway You know you see they keep buddy get five shit ever for my swing on somebody's Y'all mother won't be out Say it to the face it to a face and with your chest But we are trying to down the road looking ahead trying to get Donovan Mitchell Apollo Banker on this show so in light of that fact we we're going to talk a little bit of Cavs magic. They can get them on.
Starting point is 01:44:07 I mean, listen, it is what it is. Y'all got to say nice things about us when we send the clip. They're winning at home. Paulo is playing well. Donovan is playing well. But they unfortunately that their game is on at the same time as other games. As real games. Right?
Starting point is 01:44:23 I'm just playing. As other games, the game games. Right? Real games. I'm just playing. As other games, the game's on at the same time. So in those... Hey, don't get mad at us. Get mad at who scheduled this. Talk to Adam Silver. Yeah, get mad at the scheduling guy at the league office.
Starting point is 01:44:37 Like, I'm not going to turn it off TNT to go to NBA TV. I'm just watching commercials. They put that shit on Yahoo sports We went to like a sports bar this wings are they angle Right and that's your play also gonna be a couple baseball on the screen somebody favorite baseball team you're playing It's gonna be the main basketball game and it might be one TV in the whole spot So look in the corner that got the game. I'm just saying being honest Cavs and Magic fans and message for you guys We're sorry. We're gonna keep it on TNT We're gonna watch the little box because what happens is if we turn to NBA TV, we're gonna forget that the other game started again
Starting point is 01:45:24 and miss that action When y'all get to the second round and whoever played a Knicks affiliate gonna be on good TV Yeah, and then we get to talk about you did And it's just sir when you get on good TV because you play the Knicks or Philadelphia It's right you become you become a team that gonna get beat on On Boston Oh I mean we really talk about the Boston City number one cuz they play nobody right you gonna build listen one thing for show Two things certain Orlando or Cleveland y'all gonna be on TV for the four games
Starting point is 01:46:00 Yes, next round. I'm gonna be on TV for game. So it's just just four, it can't be five, six, or seven. It can't be five, six, or seven. Really three, really three. They ain't gonna watch it after the third game. They ain't watching it after the third game. They're just getting four games. After the third game, you're like, alright man. So, let's talk about just... Three. First two gonna be exciting. I'm just thinking like the exciting players in that series Pablo
Starting point is 01:46:28 nobody Paulo Paulo down for Mitchell Darius Garland. Yeah, I've seen Franz Wagner for you know, no Nationally known no, no Donovan Mitchell. Yeah, there's no getting there though He's getting everybody. You know yeah, but went to do so he's in his second year It's just a bad. It's just a bad. There's no like that's a bad four or five matches It's a bad four or five more for you Viewership for non-caps like Like, if it was 2-7, if it was somebody like,
Starting point is 01:47:08 like these are high-level scores that even on a bat, like there's going to be two dudes averaging 30-something. Like, you can be like, all right, I can watch. And it ain't been no, and the games ain't went down to the wire.
Starting point is 01:47:19 There ain't been no controversy. This game last night went down to the wire. Every month we came, that's why I'm here to tell you See baby, I'm in my nap to get ready for the last game You didn't watch either so stop yeah, I flip back and forth It just don't happen it just don't have the star power Well, let's let's talk about some potential star power
Starting point is 01:47:47 that could help the Magic down the road. Ramona Showburn from ESPN is reporting that two teams will be very interested in Paul George this summer are the Magic and the Sixers. Both squads have the bread to give PG a max deal if he's looking for that money. Magic and the Goats, they're in the playoffs at the fifth seed. Nobody even watched it.
Starting point is 01:48:08 No one's going to go down to the playoffs and go down to Miami and Orlando and not be seen. They got Disney World. You're not going to be seen down in Orlando, dog. Nobody's going down there. What amount of money would make you want to go down to Orlando? The same amount of money I can get in Philly.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Philly is a good match right there. go down to Orlando. The same amount of money I can get in Philly or in... Philly is a good match right there. You give me Orlando. Then I have to throw him. You take less money to go somewhere else? You have to throw me super max plus some real, some real investment properties. And I can be like, you know what,
Starting point is 01:48:42 I don't need that TV shit no more. You need some Orlando.. Give me some Orlando. Give me some Orlando. Rashaki, you make the t-shirt, please, if you're watching the show right now.
Starting point is 01:48:52 So if you were PG looking for a change of scenery and you had to pick between those two teams, do you think Sixers would get it over? Yeah,
Starting point is 01:48:59 because they're the closest to, I mean, that's the closest to that other than, I mean, that's the closest to get to that next level of a champion. Because you have Embiid, you have Maxie, you have Pieces.
Starting point is 01:49:12 So, you know, me going there, I can probably push them over the top, you know, to fight for a championship. Orlando, nah. That would be a nice pickup, for sure. And what about, there's also been rumors about a potential return of the Pacers with that squad. Cap. Not really.
Starting point is 01:49:29 Bad man. Not doing it. Come to L.A. Bad fit. Man, that man's standing right where he is. Come to L.A. He happy here. He happy here, man.
Starting point is 01:49:42 He happy in L.A. Yeah, he happy in L.A. I don't know, man. I see him L.A. Yeah, he happy in L.A. I don't know, man. I see him going to Philly if they give him a chance. Listen, I can tell you this right now. He want to win, bro. The reality of it is this. How many years...
Starting point is 01:49:58 Is Kawhi on his last legs? Like, that's a real question. If he's... That's the way it seems. So it seems like he can't... He is... That's the way it seems. And so that means
Starting point is 01:50:14 Paul George's value is more valuable than we really think. So therefore... Right, and we can see Kawhi, you know, that would have probably been... That might bite him in the ass later,
Starting point is 01:50:24 but Kawhi might have been a bad extension for them. Because he took that motherfucker fast as hell. He ain't even thinking. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Really want to tell me? Really want to explain me? Okay. Surprise. Birthday, nigga,
Starting point is 01:50:39 you happy? Nigga had the pen ready. Like, what? Nigga, lick the tip of it. I'm happy. He had the pan ready. Like, what? Right, so that might... He licked the tip of it. He licked the tip. So that might... So the value for Paul George goes up, right?
Starting point is 01:51:03 Knowing that, all right, look, do me is not really going to be what it is, so you really need me to be here and be the front runner. Me and James, like, so these guys' value is going to go up, and I don't know if, I don't think Bomber is going to be like, I'm going to let you go and I'm going to survive with Kawhi not realize and you know, this might not be ever good enough So I'm gonna need as many pieces I can if he can give me 50 something games a year and I got these guys with Me I can take that So I don't see Paul George leaving. I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 01:51:41 Lakers is gonna try to throw something at him, but I don't know. How many games could I play this year again? 60. 60 yet or not. He played 60. He played a lot. Yeah, he gets on the team. But, no, I'm just thinking because of that rule they put in place. 68 games.
Starting point is 01:51:59 He wants to play, right? Do you think, like, there was much? Do you think they should have just kept him what they've been doing yeah i i think that the the scrutiny of this dude is hurt i think because he became the focal point of it yeah and the focal point is he's hurt he's the reason that this rule is yeah he become the rule but not realizing he's been hurt so he's not load managing uh you're not load managing a healthy person. You're load managing a wasn't.
Starting point is 01:52:27 And so what ends up happening is they put a rule in for him. He gets over the rule, but what happens is, boom, now because he done ran his knee to get to that 68 to prove everybody wrong, you don't have him when you need him. And that becomes a thing. I think there's a, like anything, there's a give and take. Right? So whatever you're putting in, there's something that's going to happen on the back end.
Starting point is 01:52:52 Yep. Right? So you've got these guys that are still injured playing to try to make this. And then now you don't have them in the playoffs when you need them on championship type of teams. That kicks your ass. So this rule hurt Clippers. Yeah. Because most likely he would have probably paid about 50-55.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Yeah. You need those. You need them fucking 13 games now. Right now. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So I got a question for you from first standpoint.
Starting point is 01:53:19 You're the Clippers. You know Kawhi has had injury issues, was hurt last season in the playoffs, now hurt this season in the playoffs. But even prior to that, is he the first person you're giving the extension to? Now obviously you're Balmer, you gotta open up the new arena, the Intuit dome, you wanna make a splash, but you got Kawhi and PG both potentially becoming free agents this summer. If you were in his position, would he have been the first person to get the bread? Was he gonna be a free agent? free agents this summer, if you were in his position, he would have been the first person to get the bread.
Starting point is 01:53:46 Was he going to be a free agent? Yeah, they both had playwrights. At the time, he's playing all his games. He's playing his games. He's hooping at the time. I understand, but based on the history... But you can't go on this. You got to go on right now.
Starting point is 01:53:57 You got to go on right now. This is right now. I hear what you're saying. Absolutely, I hear what you're saying 1,000%. Most people would have took that into some consideration Don't know if they did if they did not but I feel like the gamble on both sides like right in the moment You're gambling you're gambling, but he's hot right now. Yeah Yeah, and then you can't afford that
Starting point is 01:54:20 But that's what we didn't know that this was gonna be a thing right now him not being able to play in his knee Can't let him go. We know that was gonna be a thing. So they bet known. Okay, he's back. He's healthy this we wanted to make a deep playoff run this year moving to the new arena name here and Whatever happens this year. We're gonna piggyback off that moving into the new arena with our our guys and get him cheaper Yeah, that's cheap because that's what it is Get it to them is getting them cheap before his free agency. Like Maxie, it works against them. They should assign him to an extension.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Now he's about to hit the free market and cost them more. Because the gamble requires basically he's playing hot, you don't give him his bread, then you run the risk of him saying, peace, I'm out. Yeah. Peace them out or it'll cost you a lot more. Either one of them. Because an extension is an extension with 12.5 off of what they already
Starting point is 01:55:06 make that last year versus he opts out of his deal and you have to sign a whole nother deal. Yeah, and then now the fans looking at you like, what the hell
Starting point is 01:55:13 are you doing? Yep. You're the motherfucker. Like, you're moving into this new arena now you ain't got no bodies in the seats. Now it's like,
Starting point is 01:55:19 now he can't gamble with that. Yeah, you don't want to move into the arena. You can't gamble with that. Yeah, for sure. You got to play guys.
Starting point is 01:55:24 You got to have all them bathrooms. You need people to use for sure You want a guy out of bathroom? You need people to use all them bad and you got and you got four dudes who who actually get along and you know What kind of leverage they holding like you know, I mean, you you know players man Well, you want your boy to be on the team y'all start doing little petty shit, too Yeah, I know you got some I'ma do first And I start pulling that you start pulling those cards. Right?
Starting point is 01:55:47 You want him, you want me? We both leave together. How you going to do this? You know, if you don't sign him to an extension, I don't even want to negotiate with you. You don't know what behind the scenes that players be pulling. Yeah, it's smart on PG to wait, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:02 We'll have all the leverage. We'll have all the things to leverage on his side to something. Same thing with James. Why don't you sign PG? Yeah, I'm the one who kind of made this all work. You know, we know what y'all had before I got here. So, what's happening? Well, they gotta get past Dallas. they got to get past Dallas. Yeah. They have to get past Dallas. So, now other issues to present.
Starting point is 01:56:28 The way Harden's been playing in the series. Took less bread with Philly. Trust the process. Got did dirty by Maury. Do we feel like he's at a point now where I need the bag now, man? I've been playing for a discount. Like, I love LA. He's not getting the max deal, man.
Starting point is 01:56:43 No, he's not getting the max. I'm not even a max, but you got to come great. He's going to get a decent contract, but it won't be no... If they make it to the
Starting point is 01:56:49 finals, he's going to get close. No. He's going to get close. But I don't... You got to think about the future. So this is the thing
Starting point is 01:56:55 that you can't afford that right now. If they win... Let me rephrase that. It's crazy. Two years. If they win a championship this year, that changes.
Starting point is 01:57:04 Yeah. And he's doing what he's doing right now. And he's doing right now. If he's playing the way he is right now throughout these playoffs, that number goes up. Is it a match? I don't know, but you still have to think about the next three, four, five years for your franchise, right? That's what I'm saying. I like a big team.
Starting point is 01:57:21 No, that's what I'm saying. It's going to seem like, let's just say everybody's playing Well, they get to the Western Conference finals or whatever. The bad contract is gonna probably be kawaii in their minds right now Yeah in their minds right now to come out how we might have messed up with because we didn't need them He didn't play they did well, right? It might be one of those bad decisions But then like that's I say you never you never know in real time. And that's the thing with being an owner. It's all a gamble. Because he can come back, Kawhi can come back, you get out of this round, he can come back,
Starting point is 01:57:54 ball, play well, do what we know he's capable of doing in the finals, two-time finals MVP. That Kawhi shows up and it's like the money was worth it. Yep. And we all sitting here like, whoo. So who do they play next round?
Starting point is 01:58:11 OKC? No, they play OKC. See, so that's what I said. So whoever, they can end up
Starting point is 01:58:19 getting to the Western Conference finals. That's a good round for Kawhi though. Again, not to look ahead, but now I say Clippers don't win this series. You're PG.
Starting point is 01:58:28 How does your approach change come into this? Different. Now you run the risk. You're losing the first round. Now you got other people that want you. Like, Kawhi's my dog, but it's about me now. What? I came here already. I did that. We've been at this for six years now,
Starting point is 01:58:43 right? This is your sixth six years now, right? This is your six with this experiment, right? Mm-hmm hasn't worked really they've been hurt every year So now I have to explore something That's what I would do if I was especially we lose now we lose in the first round I'm just going to the next room. Let's lock wrong. Good. next locker room? I'm saying, I'm saying. Down the hall? I don't want to leave LA like that. If it ain't like a championship team. See, this is like they're leaving six years in LA, family here.
Starting point is 01:59:13 Everybody good. Sunshine out there, man. You know what I mean? Tough. It's tough. Yeah. Tough spot. Because now it seems like you advanced to your point.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Clippers advanced to face the Thunder, have a very good chance of making the Western Conference Final. They never. It sense of art now we can get over the hump and try to get to that Right here for bomber is more is more Like trying to see into the future of you got four superstars who's gonna be what one one is gonna be a bad investment Right, so they're trying to figure out which one can you live with right because if as the longer Kawhi is out That means James Harden and Russell value for your team. Remember you go to the Western Conference final That means these two dudes is balling. Yeah, right so their value goes up. Yeah, right So now you're paying money to people that you probably didn't want to
Starting point is 02:00:03 Probably thought you can get him at a discount Right James Harden comes out and finishes this to go to the he plays next round and that mother averages 34 that round and you know Right, he's gonna be speaking money Let let Westbrook catch a couple triple doubles in a series because you needed him to be who he needs to be in this series Close out games. Yeah, that $4 million a year, you got him at, no, brother. These is new prices, right? So right here,
Starting point is 02:00:33 it's just calculations at this point. Westbrook, to me, seems like the easiest one of these chips because he's already taking less bread. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Let me go down. I'm cheap today. I was cheap to stay here. And then we go to the Western Conference final and let's say in the Western Conference final something happened,
Starting point is 02:00:53 I have to triple-double the whole series. Take them to game seven to the champs. I'm not $4 million. You can go kiss my ass. Does that mindset change though?
Starting point is 02:01:03 Oh! Yeah, you can kiss my ass. What we talking about? This is really what we talking about. It's how you finish your series. And that's all that matters. Which is why I think when you re-signed this deal, didn't really have a huge market out there.
Starting point is 02:01:20 All of us thought, taking that two for eight was like, come on man. But still, he was a hoot, man. He wanted a hoot. But all the factors wanted to stay in LA. It was a bargain for which you have him at helped you. Absolutely. Right? So you got him. He looked at the bigger picture, wanted to stay grounded right now. And they got him at a discount price you know that's it happens they might have to pay a little bit more in the back end you know who know hopefully you don't but maybe you do the back end comes with winning so if they're winning
Starting point is 02:01:53 then they got to pay yeah and well we're gonna see but yeah not a day if if anything for the Clippers future for this team they have to get they have to make a deep run yeah that's that's predicated on definitely getting out of the series here. Big game tonight, right? Yeah, let's talk about it. Mavs head back to L.A. with the series tied 2-2, looking to bounce back from their game for a loss to the Clippers. So let's hit Luke a little bit.
Starting point is 02:02:19 Luke is averaging 29 points, 10 rebounds, close to 9 assists for the series. Only shooting 39% from the field 27% from deep some bowling shoot Just for Lucas standards I know it's low for today's NBA. That's low for yeah, that's a better say just overall. That's low Yeah, just you know, I mean he's had a you know, like 10 for 24 So, you know, I mean just some rough shooting nights in the series. Still been playing very well, Mavs fans, so don't come for me. Been bothered by knee soreness, but said that isn't an excuse for how he's playing.
Starting point is 02:02:50 But what are the Clippers doing defensively to make Luka struggle? Well, we thought. Even if it would be better if Kawhi was there, you got another body to throw at him, but it is making it tough on him. He has tendencies like everybody else they they've read his tendencies they make it each possession tough on him trying to keep him off the free throw line as much as possible um yeah because that'd be the difference man like guys take shots they're gonna make shots they're gonna miss shots but when they get into that line 10 plus times a game that's's the key. Freak throw is the key.
Starting point is 02:03:25 So, yeah, they're keeping him off the line and making his possession tough on him. They're shrinking the floor, making other guys make plays. It's the playoff. Yeah, it ain't nothing. And it's very fortunate for them that they have a certified killer in Kyrie over there that he can throw that thing to when he ain't got it going so but no he's you know it's a look at talent but the burn but the Clippers are just paying attention to details and paying attention to tendencies and the playoff series I'm seeing you every every other game now I think I body throw out for me
Starting point is 02:03:57 pile Westbrook you just could keep throwing people at them. They got defenders. Can't do the step-step back all day. Yeah, definitely got bodies. It ain't regular season. He ain't going to get 70 in the playoffs. He has to play both sides. Yeah, he got to play both sides. That's the one thing that is different. You can't relax.
Starting point is 02:04:21 They're going to pick and roll and look for him now. They're going to challenge him on the defensive end. so he's gonna spend a little bit more energy and what's funny is Even though wasn't is not a good defender Kyrie. They're targeting Luca more because Luca produces more He produces more overall. So you want to get him tired? And then the thing is so just say you want to hide Luke and put him on Westbrook, right? They got a boxing before yeah, so this is like there's no Okay, you want to put him on Norman Powell? Good luck. Yeah, right cuz he ain't seen a shot since he He ain't like Michael Porter. Do you two point? He fired that thing. So
Starting point is 02:05:00 To Gil's point he has to play every possession now. Because you're going to put him in a position where he has to defend an action, the ball, a back screen, a cut, an offensive rebound. He's going to have to do something every possession. Because we're only playing eight guys, eight, nine guys that we know. So we're going to put him in a position. So we can't put him on Zubat, can't put him on Plum because he's just... So it's like everybody who else we're going to put him on got the ball in So we can't put him on Zubat, can't put him on Plum, because he's just, so it's like, everybody who else we're going to put him on got the ball in the hand making plays
Starting point is 02:05:28 or doing something productive for our team, so. So it's not defensive, so they're not doing nothing defensively that they haven't done before. They're just now focusing on, they're making him use all his energy, right? And the fact that the Mavs only got two players. It's only two.
Starting point is 02:05:47 Kyrie and him, they're taking 24-something shots each. Everybody else is about five, six, seven. So that means he's working to try to keep them scoring, then he's got to try to work here also. So he's just spending more energy than he was used to. And it's just personally it's a bad matchup for him because no matter where he goes, that person scores. Yep.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Right? It's not like he's playing against, he ain't playing against a P.J. Washington, right? Or Derrick Jones Jr., where they only going to give me nine or ten shots, right? These dudes are trying to put the ball in the basket, and they're trying to embarrass me too, so I got to play on both sides. Yeah, you don't want to hear that.
Starting point is 02:06:31 Pick on him. Go at him again. Yeah, yeah. Pick on that. Somebody want to hear that. Yeah. Go at him again. So Luka historically against the Clippers has done his thing numerous 40 pieces,
Starting point is 02:06:43 averaging 33-9-9-17 playoff games against the Clippers, has done his thing, numerous 40 pieces, averaging 33.9 to 9 to 17 playoff games against the Clippers in his career. Tonight, game five, his higher or lower, 33.5 points on the Underdog Fantasy. You think he has a breakout game? 33.5? He's averaging 29. I'm going lower. You're going lower than that? He's averaging 29, so yeah. I don't know. Can I feel like... I'm going lower. You're going lower than I am? Yeah, he's averaging 29, so yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:07:07 I feel like... I'm going higher. You know, but I've been wrong before. He got to shoot. 33? It's not like... 33 and a half? He's going to shoot.
Starting point is 02:07:16 He got to shoot. Who else is going to shoot? I hear him. That's the one thing. He going to shoot. So I'm going higher. Let me see. He got... He got to shoot. Because who else is going to shoot besides Kyrie?
Starting point is 02:07:28 10 for 24, 29, 10 for 24. I mean, they taking 24, 25 shots. Yeah. He got to shoot, bro. It was one of the two games that the Mavs won, I think, Kyrie shot 17 times and 18 times. Game four had his best game in the series, 40.7 rebounds, five assists, 25 shots. It's Luka's turn. He's shooting 12 to 14 threes. Kyrie had 40 last games. What's he the thing with that?
Starting point is 02:07:54 Huh? Kyrie had his last game. It's Luka's turn. Shit, Luka took the most shots anyway. For real, still? Last game? Man, yeah, he getting over 30. He's gotta get over 30. He got to get over 30. He's taking 25, so we're going to count 24 to 25 shots. Yeah, he might take 29. So if you take 29 shots, you're going to get 30. But it said 33 and a half.
Starting point is 02:08:16 33 and a half points. Oh, he got to be over 33. 33 and a half points. I thought it was 30. He has to score 34 points. I thought it was 30. He has to score 34 points. So thought it was 30. He has to score 34 points. So he's taking 24 to 25 shots.
Starting point is 02:08:29 Ooh, I don't like it. I don't see him getting that. I don't like it. Gil, in that last game, Kyrie took 25 shots. Luka took 24. It could be that guy. Not to be Statman, Statman. Yeah, no, that's Statman.
Starting point is 02:08:40 Okay, you got it. So he took 24, Kyrie took 25. Well, extra shot at the end. 50 shots. That one shot at the end. That one shot at the end. Okay, you got it. So so he took 24. I took 25 Combined for 50 shots You got another set you got another easier like like like two and a half threes made I don't think you'll get 34 points. You don't think so Not in the road. I'm gonna go under. Huh? It's 33 or 30? 33.5 Four threes is higher or lower. Four threes, so he has to make five? He has to make five.
Starting point is 02:09:19 He was one for nine last game. I feel like I feel like he do. He make five if he get over 30. Yeah, that's what I said. He make five. He getting over 30. He might as well be. He might have a 30, but he's 33 and a half. 33 and a half. Yeah, I'm going to go under on a 33. I'm going to go under, too.
Starting point is 02:09:33 I just thought. I'm going to go under on a 33. Lower, lower. Lower, lower. We go higher or lower here at Underdog Fantasy? Lower, lower. What do you think about Kyrie, that game four performance? It feels like some vintage Kyrie with the 40-piece,
Starting point is 02:09:49 but did not get the win. Yeah, they was getting spanked at first. They did not score in the first quarter either. I thought they was going to win. He had to turn that thing on. So, no, it's Kyrie, man. I'm not surprised by anything that Kyrie Irving does. Regular season, postseason, when the game is on the line, not on the line, whatever it is, he a hooper.
Starting point is 02:10:15 He show up in big moments, man. Yeah, he sure is. He's fun to watch. Support your emotion. Like, I enjoy watching Kyrie Irving play a lot doesn't like this series good like you know I mean like you get the why are you like for me you know score like this you have like when you're talking about this is look at all the look at all the scores just on one on one court I mean you can fuck around have three people dead in their score like 4550 that game was
Starting point is 02:10:46 Yeah, cuz PG coming from having seven game before and come out had that thing on automatic Like there you you won't be feel this ain't gonna be no 88 to 82 game like You fuck around 84 to 86 boy you be mad at you like I ain't coming to see this shit God Three over time 210 can see some crossover some step back Cuz that's all this series is The best step back From this one series that they did they had easy and top 10 it should be this and how many floaters
Starting point is 02:11:30 Lobs at the ring Yeah, this the series for James floating shit out them boys game five Like same leg Sometimes they get nervous. They look nasty. They look nasty. They look like it's same leg, same leg. Disgusting. Throw your defense off too. That's why nobody can test it. He just runs and just jumps.
Starting point is 02:11:57 You ever had a player like that? Was that J.R. Smith? Just when he came in there, whatever leg he was on at that time, he just jumped off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. J.R. could jump off. Just come in there, you can't time it because you know, was on at that time he just jumped off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He could jump off like that. They are good jump off. Both of you. He just come in there. You can't time it because, you know, oh, shit. Wait, dude.
Starting point is 02:12:11 Where's the one-two step? You just won. That was a one. That was a one. It was a one count. I wasn't ready. So how do the Mavs need to utilize Kyrie and Luka to give them their best chance to win not only game five,
Starting point is 02:12:23 but this series. Wait what? They tied 2-2 right? We need a team in LA to win man. Not having Tim Hardaway Jr. hurting him. Yeah. Even the game he did play, he didn't play well. Probably wasn't healthy. Yeah, but.
Starting point is 02:12:52 Not having him out there, he spaces the floor and he can get it going. He's like, here's their Norman power. He ain't seen one he ain't like. Because he came in. For sure. For sure. And tell Tim his rookie, hey, man, you can't be calling for the't like. Since he came in. For sure. For sure. And tell Tim his rookie, hey, man, you can't be calling for the ball
Starting point is 02:13:08 while dudes going into their move, man. Yeah. Oh, my God. His rookie, yeah. Nigga, rookie. Hey, he was a rookie out there, motherfucker. Who in niggas? Dude, stop.
Starting point is 02:13:20 Open, open. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, give me that. Woo, woo, woo. Like. Mellow going into his. And you out there, who in? Like, no, stop. Open, open. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, give me that. Woo, woo, woo. Melo going into his. And you out there, wooing. No, you.
Starting point is 02:13:29 Somebody going into their bag, yeah. Woo, woo, woo, man. And you in there looking to try to pass it, trying to. If I miss that shot and put it over, get him out of the game. Yeah, we had to tell him. I had to pull him, that young fella. And you. Cannot be wooed.
Starting point is 02:13:44 He's going to find you. Yeah, he's going to find you. He's going you and you Cannot be will words Can't be out there We look for any reason to blame our teammates up Don't hurt you over there. Come on Snap it for the bottle snap in the middle my shot man. Yeah, don't you hit the side of the backboard? Oh, they had shit to do with me dog So you got there for never stop that shit like that Now but in are they not having him out there cuz he's aggressive and he's
Starting point is 02:14:25 Yeah, and he wasn't guys I could get it going. Yeah, because PJ Washington for a certain reason, like Jones is going to make a couple. He ain't, he's there for defense. But the respect factor ain't there. They got to respect. Yeah, the respect factor ain't there. Because he's going to. He's hard away. Because you got to play him.
Starting point is 02:14:38 Yeah, you got to play him honest. You have to play him honest. Him? Yeah, you don't want no Michael Porter out there. Yeah. He's got 20 for the seed. You're like, dang, dog. Lack of chance to see him.
Starting point is 02:14:46 And he's sitting back there like, man, we should have, god damn it, we should have just focused on him. We could have focused if we just let Luke. Yeah. Like, you'd be sitting there like, this is the, like, when you look back and you getting fired and you at home, you the coach is there. All you're doing is looking at Michael Porter like cause the next series he probably might
Starting point is 02:15:06 average 12 right and you be sitting there like yeah that's what it feels like that's what hurts the most
Starting point is 02:15:12 right there man if we would've just focused a little bit more on him we could've been in the championship I could've kept my damn job
Starting point is 02:15:21 man I was the Western Conference find then motherfucker championship they couldn't tell me shit so quickly I could have kept my damn job, man. I was in the Western Conference fine, then motherfucker championship. They couldn't tell me shit. So quickly, what's your prediction
Starting point is 02:15:29 for game five tonight? For who? Clippers-Mass. Home team. You're rolling with the Clippers to get the one team. Home with the Clippers. They got it. You know who I'm going with. Clippers all day, day eight.
Starting point is 02:15:43 You can't now. You already came back to Lakers. I mean, L.A., L.A. You broke character. You came back. I didn't break character. I just had to help. I had to help give my spirit. You had to help y'all lose.
Starting point is 02:15:53 I had to help us get out of, you know, I couldn't let us get stuck. Get out of the first round. Right? I mean, right now, all I got is my Clipper hat. You jumping team? No, no, no. Okay, okay. What team did you have? You remember we picked teams that you were my Clipper hat. You jumping team? No, no, no. Okay, okay. What team did you have?
Starting point is 02:16:06 You remember we picked teams that you were supposed to be picking. You forgot. I got Boston. I have Boston. Yeah. I'm winning. But he don't know how to root for another team. I got Boston.
Starting point is 02:16:17 I just can't say nothing bad. I just feel like this. I can't root for him as I'm a Laker fan, but I just can't say nothing bad about him. No. You know, that's all. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil Zarina presented by Underdog Fantasy. We do what we want on this show.
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Starting point is 02:16:41 Sheed and Tyler, Gil. Yes, yes. Okay. Same. No matter how you say it, Wallace. Same two people. The show's not Harina Gill. If somebody said it, we know who they're talking about.
Starting point is 02:16:54 When I say somebody's name wrong, y'all know who I'm talking about. Sam Vincent. Sam Vincent. Kedrick Perkins. Mark Cuban Jr. You know who I'm talking saying, you know, I've been saying, yeah. Kedrick Perkins. Mark Cuban Jr. You know who I'm talking about. Mark Cuban Jr. Mark Cuban Jr.
Starting point is 02:17:10 Yeah, you know who I'm talking about. Radio. Cuban Gooding Jr., goddammit. But I've worked with you long enough, yeah. When you say Mark Cuban Jr., I know exactly who you're talking about. Like, I already know. I give you, listen, I was like, what was that, charades? I give you enough clues to get the real answer.
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Starting point is 02:17:42 You got four cups, Nick. I don't know what that cup is, though. All the water. All the water. I brought the Sprite, too. Sprite, water, Hennessy. Hennessy and Coke. If I want fake Hennessy, I go to this. If I want a little drink, I go to that.
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Starting point is 02:18:19 Sorry, our first question brown bag Tennessee boy first question the video question from underdog user Big Tone. Never wrong. What up, Gills Arena? After what Anthony Edwards and P.J. Washington did this weekend, who do y'all think got some of the best in-game celebrations of all time? I'm talking Sam Cassell, Steph Curry, anybody. Who do you think got the best one of all time?
Starting point is 02:18:42 Love the show. Peace. This nigga out here kayaking? What he doing? I don't know. He had to have him. It looked like he was enjoying himself. He's a dude. Just standing with his arms folded. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:52 Was that a celebration? No, that was... That was like a protest that I ain't moving, right? I'm letting Westbrook know that it's whatever he wants. Yeah. Ah, you named it. Best endgame celebration? Westbrook.
Starting point is 02:19:05 Westbrook or Curry? I'm rocking the baby. Rocking the baby, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo. That night night hurt a little bit. Yeah, that one. Rocking the baby, night night.
Starting point is 02:19:19 I don't know. I like the J.R. Smith shit, too. When he got on one knee and did that shit. Yeah, that shit was cold. Game winner baby. In the quarter or whatever. Lance Peterson. Playing the guitar. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How the fuck that?
Starting point is 02:19:34 Yeah, but I, yeah. Rocking the baby shit. That's embarrassing though. He started both of these. He started these too. He started both of them. Westbrook started so I'm, yeah. Yeah, I'm going Westbrook. I like seeing Pat Bev do the two smalls.
Starting point is 02:19:50 I know you're like six feet tall, but... Yeah, how you big up? That's just me. Westbrook was doing the seven footers, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one that do it to a seven footer, and you... He's too small. Nick, the chat wants to know about, obviously, we've seen the meme, Laker game. Oh yeah, my meme, yeah, I did this, yeah. I got the best one.
Starting point is 02:20:12 Even though I didn't go in, I got the best one. You got a few legendary memes out there. The Cassie Athena one. I'm trying to do the Giggle one. Yeah, the question mark joined everywhere. Yeah. Was that reality TV? With the meme? Nah, we was doing a Laker backstage.
Starting point is 02:20:32 They came to my mom's house. She was talking trash. Oh, okay. It was like... Man. Dang, we was crazy back then. What you about to say, man? Remember when I almost shot your mom with a paintball cuz you try to interfere
Starting point is 02:20:46 See how you go crazy. I don't know what you talk about you shoot my mama you did Mom try to come out there don't shoot my back up back up watch out they know witnesses in the witnesses brother that you yeah, you know, I'm just saying she over here. She's back to fuck up. He came to that Joy My mama's gotta save you mama try to say we're not today Cuz I'm yeah, I'll shot you for real. Yeah No, no cuz look you I'll shot you he can't just come to the house doing what he was going to do.
Starting point is 02:21:48 And I'm chasing him through the house. Shoot. Bop. Bop. With a paintball. In your own house. Yeah. With a paintball gun.
Starting point is 02:21:53 And then she's going to come out there and run it. Back up. You let him run behind. I remember that. I remember that. Yeah, you let him run behind you if you want to. No, I know how to get you out of the way, God damn it. Nick, what is the wildest shit that Gil did to you?
Starting point is 02:22:10 That was up there. I'm going to shout the moms to the pops. It's one thing because he shot me a couple times. Well, he shot me in the gun meeting. Yeah, that was the wildest. In the NBA, you know how they had those little meetings every year? The people there, the NBA people there, they're talking about no guns and everything. And he
Starting point is 02:22:31 shot me with a BB gun in front of all of them. Went on, pop! He said, pop! I'm looking at him like they act like they didn't see nothing. They didn't say nothing. They just went on to the next story. They were talking about, make sure the guns and stuff is locked up. And like I said, make sure
Starting point is 02:22:48 the guns moving forward is locked up. So next topic, financial advice from the financial advisors. I'm looking like y'all ain't gonna do nothing to him. That's when I knew he had power. That's what I'm talking about. He got
Starting point is 02:23:03 power, boy. Our next question. He ain't gun. He shooting. He shooting real. Technically not a real gun, but. Oh, hell, boy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:14 Oh, hell. King would have hated us. King would have whooped all our asses. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We would have been that motherfucker. We would have had to pack King out. We would have had to. We would have been some group shit. Yeah, we would have been a group shit.
Starting point is 02:23:23 Ain't nobody taking up one of the walls of King. We would have been some group shit. Yeah, it would have been a group shit. Ain't nobody taking a one-on-one with the king. It was a group shit. We're trying to hit the homie, Gale. Get up! Y'all niggas, yeah, homie, Gale. Hey, that practice would have been King by himself, because ain't nobody coming to practice with the ball. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:37 They would have had to have a me, and it would have been Zoom. Man! Hey, it would have been Zoomed. King said he wanted to have a team me, and yeah, that shit going to be on Zoom. That shit on Zoom, right? What's that? Everybody going back in that locker room.
Starting point is 02:23:47 They be crazy. Yeah, I ought to put my hands on the field now. Hey, just trade me. Yeah. I ain't coming back. Suspend me. Yeah, I ought to put my hands on the field. I know, yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:57 Like, them niggas was kids in the locker room. Listen, we knew who to play with. The rest of us is just, gee. All right, we got one more video question from underdog user bmack32. Does Sonny Baccaro deserve some type of docu-series or biopic you know what I'm saying just so the world would know his contribution to the game and what he's done for players you know what I'm saying how he's helped different players careers and the question is, what are some of the pros and cons, takeaways, man, from your first live show?
Starting point is 02:24:30 What do you all think went well and what could have went better outside of kicking out the drunk dude? See, that's a real fan right there. Man, watch the show. Shout out BMAC32. We might just make him our resident Mostly fan. Give him a bag. But do you think Sonny Vaccaro deserves a docuseries or biopic for all that he's done for the game? Yeah, I think back in that era, right, you know, a lot of people had to get vouched for him, right?
Starting point is 02:24:57 You know, I got the Adidas cam because of him, right, when nobody knew who I was. So just for the culture of just, you know, basketball then, you know, there was, you know, forefathers. He was one of them. George Ravlin on the Nike side of it. So, you know, it would be a good story because even before me, these guys were already figures. And after me, they was figures. So just I would love to watch it on both sides, the Adidas side of it and the Nike side of it,
Starting point is 02:25:24 just to see, you know, how players, they found this player he got or this player was high and he fell. You know, I like to look at, like, just history as itself. So I think it would be good. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, no, Sonny dope. And then what was your biggest takeaway from the live show? One on a good shit. Nobody can do what we can do that's that's one thing like when you look at other podcasts they don't got the personalities that we got they can't do what they do that's
Starting point is 02:25:53 why they talk to even to even sustain to even sustain the audience of just you know just all through it right and i think we did a great job y'all kick y'all drunk niggas out we just move them four rows back yeah we just move. We just move them four rows back Yeah, we just move. Yeah, we just move the four rules back into my Kenyan site We sit in like oh it's cut it out now that didn't cut it out shut up. He was drunk move them annoying She do I bother me? Learn how to act man like people invited some goddamn were learned how to act man. Like, if people invite you to some goddamn where, learn how to act. I was worried. I was worried. Like seriously, I look like I couldn't get close.
Starting point is 02:26:29 I appreciate that. He said, look I was too close. Like yo, bitch, just take him out. Couldn't get too close and I would've walked him out myself. Shout out to our security. He would've killed her, nigga. Yeah, I would've walked the ass out myself. Your name though, nigga. Like, uh, like things, like you know, I think we should, uh,
Starting point is 02:26:44 Big nasty. Just do a movement. Mics for each other instead of the mics. Yeah. Because people said they had a hard time hearing that. Shout out Trevor Trout. So get handheld mics. I think for like the bigger audiences we get, we should have the screens in the back. So, you know, the fans back there can actually just look up there and see it. So that'd be a good adjustment
Starting point is 02:27:12 And I heard y'all came out dancing to you know just Like some one of my partners that was there. He's like nigga if you came out dancing, uh-huh Everybody before you came out dancing. He said, if you would have came out dancing. It was a joyous occasion. Yeah. Can you give us a little two-step?
Starting point is 02:27:30 I said, yeah. I know how, but not in that environment. You remember Martin when he took the All-Nexus seat? Yeah. He got some sexy shit on.
Starting point is 02:27:40 See this shit? This is the sexy shit I got on. This is the shit I got on. That was one of the best lines. What? Classic line, man.
Starting point is 02:27:48 Ladies and gentlemen, that is our show for today. That is our show for today. That was Jamie Foxx, right? Julio Raimondo hooked me up. That was good. That was good. We appreciate y'all pulling up, tapping. It was Nick.
Starting point is 02:28:01 Always a pleasure to have you on the couch to get your opinions on life and stories of Gil Shenanigans and hijinks during your playing days. Kane, obviously appreciate you as well. And we appreciate all y'all out there. Make sure y'all stick around for a new episode of Sheed and Tyler starting right after this show. This is Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog
Starting point is 02:28:17 Fantasy. Well, well, well! We will see y'all Thursday! I like the city. Thank you. Outro Music

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