Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To Wembanyama's 38 Point Breakout Game

Episode Date: November 6, 2023

Gil's Arena Reacts To Victor Wembanyama's 38 Point Statement Game as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew break down Wemby's dismantling of the Phoenix Suns and ask what statement the San Antonio S...purs Rookie made with this breakout game. They also revisit the James Harden trade to the Los Angeles Clippers and react to his statement on being a system before going Hibachi Time, doing an NBA recap of the standout performances this weekend from Damian Lillard, Cam Thomas, and Steph Curry. Finally they wrap up the show by examining the Memphis Grizzlies struggles without Ja Morant and question whether or not their season is already over. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $500 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Shoes by Plein Sports Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:03:03 All Time Top 5 From Oak Hill 0:08:14 Brandon vs Gil in HS: Who Gets Cooked? 0:14:43 Draymond's Payback Nut Kick 0:26:45 In Season Tournament Recap 0:34:44 Does A Real Hooper Need a Screen To Get A Bucket 0:43:45 Steph Curry x Tuff Crowd 0:48:15 James Harden Is A System 0:52:31 Harden's Debut 1:06:07 Wemby's Statement Game 1:29:29 Grizzlies 1-5 Without Ja 1:47:03 How Much Do The Grizzlies Miss Dillon Brooks 1:54:33 MostlyFans 2:07:56 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back to Get In The Rift, we're getting my hundred dollar fantasy. We talking about flashing lights baby, flashing lights everywhere. They just been saying shit about me, they didn't even fucking know me. This is my store, this is what I was doing with what nobody looked. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice, or the locker room. Hello, welcome! Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. We already got the smoke going. Already got the smoke going. It's Monday.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Gil, before we start, what's going down with the fit? Yeah, I've been up since like 5.30. I had competition day, tennis match. I bet a YouTuber, Milly Monaco, a million dollars to her Porsche that I wouldn't lose in sports against a girl That's how we starting this week Yeah Thoughts Lexi? Did you win? Oh
Starting point is 00:01:36 It's on the video. You gotta wait It doesn't look you kind of look a little down I feel like maybe you lost Yeah like did you? You're kind of giving Luke, you're kind of giving a little down. I feel like maybe you lost. Yeah, like, did you? You kind of look, you kind of give it loose. You're not giving out lost energy right now. Like, your pocket's about a million dollars lighter. Like, what's up? It's giving out lost a million dollars.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah. Well, this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got Gilbert Arenas here with us. We got Lexi Brown back on the couch with a little pup. Yes. Hello, everybody. This is Cannon, guys, my new dog. Oh, it's new?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah, I got him like two days ago. Yeah, he's nine weeks. Yes. Well, turn up. We got Brandon Jennings here representing the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim. We see you. Who you rocking? Solani. Okay, it's him and Solani. Turn up. We got Brandon Jennings here representing the Mighty Ducks of Anaheim. We see you. What's up, Joe? Who you rocking?
Starting point is 00:02:27 Salani. Okay, it's Hey Musalani. Who? He's a hockey player, Gil. Expand your horizons. There's only one duck. And his restaurant is fire, too. Up in Newport.
Starting point is 00:02:40 You ought to check that out. Steakhouse. Oh, really? Yeah, it's fire. Mighty Ducks. The Mighty Ducks. Mighty Duck 2. Right. Right. You had to check that out steakhouse. Oh, yeah fire Mighty ducks mighty ducks mighty duck to Yeah, wait you didn't know that no I just thought it was the movie yeah, the Anaheim ducks No, no, you never played at the no. I just watched the movie. Wait, it's a real team? Yeah, see?
Starting point is 00:03:06 I thought it was just a movie. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, stop. For real, seriously? Yeah, I just thought, which I've never even seen the Mighty Ducks either. Quack, quack. Yeah, that's it. And Anaheim, yeah, they know. No, I know that was after a real team, though. Okay. Were they, did they copy the movie or the movie copied them?
Starting point is 00:03:21 Movie came out first, I believe. The movie came out first and then they and then yeah They were bought by Walt Disney right Disneyland bought them first overall Okay hockey It's a whole like no, it's like it's like for real like bro. It's like for real for real. It's a big thing Hockey is like hockey's a pretty big deal. Yeah, it's other California It's a great date night. A great date night? Yeah, a great date night.
Starting point is 00:03:48 But all the basketball... Put it on the list. This is a basketball show. Hockey game. Hockey game. 5 o'clock. Yeah, hockey games in person are actually decent. On TV, not so much.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Here's what we got cooking in the arena today. Wimby went ham on KD and the Suns. But what statement did he make with his statement? I'm not going to say it. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it. I'm going to say decent. On TV, not so much. Here's what we got cooking in the arena today. Wimby went ham on KD and the Suns. But what statement did he make with his statement game? In his first meeting with the media, Clipper Harden claimed that he is a system. What does that really mean? And the Grizzlies finally got their first win as they wait for Ja to come back from his suspension.
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Starting point is 00:06:06 All right, but let's get into this thing. We got to start. Randy, you're an Oak Hill alumni, right? Yeah. One of the most prestigious high school basketball programs in the country. Produced several high-level NBA players, a few Hall of Famers. Former head coach Steve Smith dropped his all-time starting five recently. Raj Strickland, Jerry Stackhouse, Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Rajon Rondo, and probably a sixth man
Starting point is 00:06:31 would be Nate Smith award winner Ron Mercer. Oh. OK. So we heard the name. All of them went to that one school? No, I didn't know. They all went there. One year.
Starting point is 00:06:40 One year. They went one year. So Raj Strickland, Melo, KD, Stackhouse, Rajon Rondo, Ron Mercer, six men. One name I did not hear mentioned in that list is Mr. B. Oh, shit. How do you feel about Coach Smith's all-time Oak Hill starting five? Maybe that's his favorite. Maybe that's what he liked.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Is it accurate, though? No, it's not accurate. Maybe that's what he liked. Is it accurate though? No, it's not accurate. That's not accurate for sure. But, I mean, everybody has their favorites, but, I mean, I started the mixtape era. Like for who? I was also a Naismith Player of the Year too. Actually I got five awards, averaged 35, broke the scoring record in one season. Bam!
Starting point is 00:07:22 So, I mean, I get it. Maybe that's his favorite. I mean, you know, I'm from the West Coast, though. So, you know, I'm an L.A. guy. So, you know, all those guys are East Coast guys. So, you know, maybe it could be a, maybe it's his own little thing. So, bias you feel like? The West Coast thing I love?
Starting point is 00:07:39 Huh? Because you black. Well, they all black. Well, we all black. Well, shut up. We all black. No, shut up. We all black. No, I don't know. I mean, it was just crazy that he put KD in there because KD left after his junior year and actually beat him in his last game to win a national title.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Okay. So that's kind of crazy that he would put KD in the top five. Like the fact that he left the school and beat you the next year for your national title. Steve Smith ain't got no love for Mr. B. Let it be known then. Wait, wait. You averaged... 35 a game last senior year.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah, and 40 games. 1,500 points. In one year? Oh, you got the title, right? 63? Yeah, 63 points. And he took me out with five minutes to go in the fourth. Damn.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Wait, that's up? That's a lot of hate towards me. Did y'all get along, though? Were y'all bumping heads during those two years? Oh, as far as, like, plan-wise, yeah. But as far as, like, living, like, there at Oak Hill, no, I was a head case. You were a head case? So, like, yeah, I was, like, a head case.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Like, I got expelled from school, and then they put me back in school. So why would he put you in his top five? How was you guys' relationship? Oh, fine. Fine, great. Like, I used to always, you know, come back and see the school players. But like I said, that's probably his favorite. Like, his favorite.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I'm surprised I'm not his favorite, though. Like, two years. Oh, you too. He did two. Most of those guys did one. So he did one. Yeah, two years. Wait, is Oak Hill a high school or a prep school?
Starting point is 00:09:08 It's a high school. It's a high school. Yeah, it's a high school. But people go in there for one or two years? Well, like one or two years. Because of the schedule. It's like that first entry to college. Y'all got dorms and stuff?
Starting point is 00:09:19 Where do y'all stay at? Yeah, we stay at dorms on campus. It's a beautiful campus. Okay. Beautiful campus. It's just nothing to do with do with just I had like regular classes and stuff Yeah, yeah, it's only like a hundred and twenty kids and throughout the whole school So like I went to class with like five or six students. So I've read special ed school How was it being in class with five people?
Starting point is 00:09:47 What? I mean, it's a boarding school. So my senior year, I graduated with like 20 people in my class. That's crazy. So you're like three. You could have went to regular school for that treatment, brother. Five kids. They bus you all there?
Starting point is 00:10:01 Huh? You got bus there? No. No, we lived on campus. What do you mean? There was no bus. They're all in one place. It's a prestigious program.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Yeah, it's a real school. Wait, is it only for athletes? No, it's for like, we went to school with like regular students. So it's like the basketball team and the regular people. And they're just like regular people. But like, it's like, yeah, so like you pay to go there. It's like kids who like get in trouble. Like stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Like, you know, you get sent away. It's like, you got- So it's like a reform school plus a really good basketball team? No, no, no. It's like kids who like get in trouble. Like stuff. Like you know you get sent away. It's like. So it's like a reform school plus a really good basketball team? No, no, no. It's not like. But the education is good. I'm just saying. A lot of kids go up there because they get in trouble back at you know at home.
Starting point is 00:10:33 So the parents just like yo you got to go to school. I didn't even know there were regular kids at Oak Hill. I thought it was a basketball team. Oh so it's like prison just with activities. No with a basketball team. Prison with one really good basketball team. Was there girls at the school? Yeah, it was girls.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Oh, so it was boys and girls? Yeah, it was boys and girls, but you can't do anything. Yeah. Yeah, it was like... No, I'm just... So like the girls dorm would be way over there and our dorm would be way over here, and then you have this gun line. Yeah, tell them about the gun line.
Starting point is 00:10:59 We call it the gun line that if you pass it at a certain time, you can get expelled, so you can't ever be on the side. Prison. Basketball prison. Oh, my God. Damn, BJ. He was having fun over here and went to prison? Well, yeah, I went to Dominguez. Prison.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I left Coach Otis because of certain reasons. Needed to. And then I went to Oak Hill. Then went to prison. I left coach Otis because of certain reasons Needed to um they went to Oak Hill. They went to prison So you feel like you belong on that top five list? I should be number one who you take my life, but who you taking off that everybody can go listen We talk about or as like going to oak like my time at Oak Hill Oh, all of them can go all of them go. I don't care about walls went there Is that the school Cam Thomas went to? Yeah, Cam Thomas.
Starting point is 00:11:46 He's the all-time leading scorer, right? Yeah. Me and Cam Thomas should be up there. And then after that, just... I mean, I get the names, but while we was at Oak Hill, there's no way. None of those names. Man. None of them. You should be first? For sure. He should always say my name first.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Okay. What? Hmm. While at Oak Hill? Yeah. We got to get him on the show. We got it. We gotta get some bottom of this Yeah, and then I'm not even six man off the I know I thought he's gonna say you for six man at least We seven seems like a hater to me So yesterday the group chat was damn Yeah, at the end that you can't you can't you can't do nothing with me in high school.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Let's talk about it. The group chat was jumping. Hit a debate. Oh, okay. Let's bring it to the show. Gilbert Redes in high school versus Brandon Jennings. Who is cooking who? What? It's not even close. Gil... What? Gil's from the Valley.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I know a high school player in the Valley could mess with me. I know no one knows history of, like, real basketball, but I'm the first product of, like, Michael Jordan. Like, serious. Okay, so y'all know when Michael Jordan made his first... when he won his first championship, right? They introduced a player that that it was ISO basketball. You got to be an individual. Before that, it was team type of basketball, Magic Johnson and stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:11 So that means when that was introduced, how old were you? So if you was in college or the NBA, you didn't possess the one-on-one skills to be the product, right? So the first entry could have been like 96 Allen Iverson. Okay. Right? The product of one-on-one mastery had to be 9, 10, 11 years old. So that means he had no concept of team sports.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So when he first introduced one-on-one, that was his first time playing basketball, which was me, Joe Johnson. You had to be like 10, 11. Kobe was 13 at that time. So he's out there. No, no, no. So he's 13, so that means you got to just really develop before you went to college
Starting point is 00:13:54 and became a team guy. So that means I had seven, eight years of being the individual. Which means I was the Grin Reaper. There was no score. There was no nothing. It was just last shot. The Byron Scott, that's all I knew.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I didn't know, I didn't know, you was a point guard, right? I was everything. Yeah, yeah. How many assists you average? In high school? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Probably like seven, eight. Seven, eight. One. Average one, eight. Seven, eight. One. Average one. Okay. Right? So think about that.
Starting point is 00:14:31 One assist a game. That means there was no concept of the other four players. Right? I was the green reaper. There was no score. I didn't care if we was down 20, up 20, nothing. I was... Yeah, you played go to hell ball. I was pure looking to dominate.
Starting point is 00:14:51 But what does that have to do with me, though? That means there was no defense out there that controlled or stopped me. You think so, Gil? You think if your high school team played against mine... You win by 40, 50, 40 50 and you're not scoring 30 There's no way hell you're scoring 30. Do me you remember that uh that you know the rover right Crenshaw Crenshaw He was on that team. Okay Rover
Starting point is 00:15:17 They pressed all game. They were the number one defense in Cali., and I walked through the building. They said I wouldn't score 15. I had the first 15 points of the game. I was faster than everyone, stronger. I was a bullet. You couldn't guard me one-on-one. I already asked coaches. Hear me.
Starting point is 00:15:49 I asked, I asked, I asked, you know, would you keep me... What was your competition level like in high school? Because I played against everybody. There's nobody in high school in my era could ever say I was ducking smoke against anybody. I said, you watch Brendan Jennings in high school and me. Could he stop me from scoring 30? I said, is he a top guard over me? He said, no homo. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I don't know where that came in. What is that hesitate? What is that hesitate? That was kind of part of me. He said, yes, I watched and coached against him. He's top tier for sure. But you were just different. Like another level of different because of your ability to score at extreme high levels.
Starting point is 00:16:28 You just scored way too many points. No one in high school was stopping you. Not one person could stop you. You were half 30 at halftime. I was the number one player in the country. That's what's up. So, like, who's stopping me? Nobody. I didn't say, well, you said you was going to stop me. We played a zone. That's fine. up So like who stopped at me? Nobody I didn't say well you said you was gonna stop me we played a zone. That's what yeah
Starting point is 00:16:49 Y'all played a zone. Yeah, I was the center. Oh, well, I'm gonna point okay. Well, I'm guard you 94 feet I ain't playing those on I'm gonna you 94 feet you got slow Do you know my girl? Yo stop girl touch the ball two to three times before anyone can get a shot up Gil stop Yeah, I was shooting from half. I don't care where you were shooting from you're not you better You might want to go outside of ass cool. Where where where any any adult that's from the ages of 45 and up Okay, I played adult league. I ain't play you that was trash. I Had to I had to have my birth certificate everywhere I went I had to have a birth certificate at adult league how old is this he's 14
Starting point is 00:17:37 what are you talking about what do you talk to go I had tattoo Gil you was like everything scary aired hostile i was feared in high school make guys cry guys in the valley guys in compton all around here this is easy y'all la easy you might you might easy high school everybody anybody ever came out of high school in la easy you can't anybody anybody can't fuck them baron david anybody lonzo anybody anybody can't fuck a bear David anybody Liza anybody Anybody nobody's ever done what I've done. I don't even want to use the less I use like let's stop Hey, I better go check the track. I use this, you know high school. I'm I was never McDonald's, but I'm not a McDonald's All-American I don't even know if I broke top 100 in my year cuz I didn't leave this area
Starting point is 00:18:22 But I was the youngest basketball player on LA Hall of Fame. So that means I beat out Paul Pierce, who was before me, Baron Davis, Tayshaun Pratt, all of them. I beat them in high school Hall of Fame. That's how many buckets I was getting. They just- I was a shot clock my brother. You know how like what he said I was a system I was basketball. I'm a trendsetter That's what I do. I said trends but anything I done from high school on up Everybody's still trying to do they didn't even have a shot clock in this area Kids they had a chance could even get paid in high school because of me
Starting point is 00:19:04 They couldn't afford me in high school. They couldn't afford me. What are you talking about? We didn't have a shot clock. They couldn't afford me either. We didn't have a shot clock. They were holding the ball on me so I wouldn't score 50. The score is 50 to 49.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I got 49. Wait, they have shot clocks in California? They kissed me on the cheek in the 10th grade and told me I was lottery. I don't know. I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I know you heard that. My coach had to complain about the shot clock. He said, we have
Starting point is 00:19:29 an NBA player in the Valley and y'all need to put a shot clock. So the city put a shot clock in. You know Sonny Baccaro? Yeah. Kissed me on the cheek in the 10th grade. Told me I'm lottery. Don't worry. ABCD. That's how good I am. That's how good I was. That's how good I was. Sonny Baccaro. You know that Italian love? Like the Godfather. You know Michael ABCD. I don't like planes. I mean I'm ducking conference. You should play summer pro league. I'm just telling you man
Starting point is 00:20:05 Listen you you ducking conference you and the rest of your team. Maybe y'all already kept me to 50 you by yourself Gil bro Come on, let's stop. Yo, nobody's Gil high school Gil, please stop Okay, you could you go I know one thing you wouldn't be having them low tops on fuck with me But put some high tops on so we asked the chat next chat. Lexi, what you think? I wish you would run. I wish you would. This is the Valley here. They're going to tell you. That's fine. The Valley can say whatever they want. I made the coach quit coaching because he
Starting point is 00:20:31 said, I don't know basketball. I made kids cry. Drew Holiday said that. He said, I used to make kids cry when they played. Let me see. Let me see Dart. What did the chat? Go ask Dart. Dart will tell you right now. I'm the coldest he's ever seen in high school. So, we asked the chat, who's cooking who in high school? 62%?
Starting point is 00:20:48 Say Gil. I'm cool. That Mr. B, Brandon Jennings. Get the fuck out of here. They're revolting on you. I'm sorry. 62, so that means 64. Are you almost there?
Starting point is 00:20:56 I told you, you was almost there. Dude, what? You was almost there. Damn, Gil. I'm just telling you. High school basketball? I saw your numbers, though. Your numbers were nice, though. I know they were.
Starting point is 00:21:06 But it's the... Who were you playing with? I didn't even let the country score. Gil averaged like 38. Gil averaged like 38. I had quadruple doubles on it. We used to want to play on non-Gil Day so you could open the Daily News and see your stats in there. I'm going to show you how good I was.
Starting point is 00:21:14 Hold on. Oh, God. Where is he going? In the meantime, it brings us to the end of the show. We're going to go to the end of the show. We're going to go to the end of the show. We're going to go to the end of the show. We're going to go to the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:21:22 We're going to go to the end of the show. We're going to go to the end of the show. We're going to go to the end of the show. We're going to go to the end of the show. We're going to go to the end of the show. We're going to go to the end of the show. We're going to go to play on non-guild days so you could open the Daily News and see your stats in there. I'm going to show you how good I was. Hold on. Oh God. Where is he going? In the meantime, in between time. Lexi, will you take Guild with Brandon? Keep me out of this. Keep me out of this. I'll out-shoot them though.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I'm sticking with that. Not even that. I'm going to stick with that. We're going to find out. I know. We're going to find out who that jumper is actually the wettest Ladies, Joe McGill Gilbert Renis has left the arena. He do not know where he's at. I want to know Gil competition who he play against Now yeah, like I said 40 on crunch. He had like 40 and 3 quarters
Starting point is 00:22:01 coast to coast This from George Ravlin said he he hit jumpers go to the basket defend other than Jordan He was the most dominant player on the floor who he was pulling up on the fast break and hitting NBA threes He was dunking on the break amazing George Ravling. That's on Gil I'm Jerry deal I'm gonna say what that uh, he hit jumpers go to the basket defend Defend boom so he's capping other than Jordan. He was the most dominant player on the floor He was pulling up on a fast break. I'm gonna get three other than who he said other than who Jordan Michael Jordan Farmer Oh Man I was so talented they had to put my shit in shrines. I still more back there
Starting point is 00:22:46 There's more I'm looking mark McGuire. Come on, man Who I really didn't know if I could play at this level because I never played against any competition. Who? You said you never played against any competition. That was nice. Gray High. Who? George Ravlin said. See?
Starting point is 00:23:15 George Ravlin said I was the best thing since Michael Jordan. The best thing since MJ. I had the Michael Jordan camp shut down. Sonny Raquel said my decision would change the game forever. I had Michael Jordan. Everybody's getting paid. Everybody should be thanking me right now. Y'all get paid.
Starting point is 00:23:32 What did George Ravelin say? Y'all ain't got to go to NBA no more. Just go get paid. Say it again. Hold on. Let George Ravelin, the guy at basketball, let him say it again. He'd hit jumpers, go to the basket, defend. other than Jordan. He was the most dominant player on the floor He was pulling up on the fast break hitting NBA threes. He was dunking on the break amazing
Starting point is 00:23:51 I was just I was just man. We got to pull up some of the sonny But girl quotes on my hey, I'm saying all those players that I was playing against they were college and NBA players. I Told you I was a green reaper, brother. But all that stops, though. All that stops with me. I'm definitely not letting no dude from the Valley with low time. That's what everybody was saying.
Starting point is 00:24:15 What'd your daddy say? His daddy heard about me. They thought I was Mexican. They tried to change single to Mario around me. All right. They thought I was Mexican. They thought he was Latino. They tried to change single to Mario around me. All right. All right. They thought I was Mexican, for real.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Who's this Mexican guy out there scoring all the points? Let's keep this thing moving because we could talk about this all day. But Draymond Green got a taste of his own medicine Sunday
Starting point is 00:24:38 after Jared Allen played a little football. Let's take a look. Ooh. Feels like a natural. Ooh's take a look. Feels like a natural motion. Oh, man. That's not a natural motion? Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:56 After the game, Draymond hopped on IG to give his thoughts. We getting it ready. Said the Draymond Green rule is only rule when Draymond Green is delivering. That picture is crazy. And he kicked him in the ding-ding. Ding-dong. Was it a ding-dong? Oh, kicked him in the ding-dong. I got the clip on my Twitter.
Starting point is 00:25:16 So Dray has a history of controversial plays during his career, which may be the reason there is a Draymond rule to begin with. Natural motion. Dang. That's not a natural motion. Natural. Natural. I said natural stomach step.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Flying knee. Natural. And to the wee-wee. To the wee-wee. You know I heard Dre doing that he kicked him in the ass yeah yeah yeah that one cause he turned around so the Dre might have a pointer
Starting point is 00:25:58 is he targeted because he's a repeat repeat repeat offender what is the rule he just feels like he gets Because he's a repeat, repeat, repeat offender. What is the rule? He just feels like he gets... He's ejected and stuff? Does he get ejected for those plays? Or he just gets flagrants? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:12 He gets flagrants. But those are kind of like... You do them too many times. Why do you have a highlight reel of kicking people? He has a highlight reel of doing that. That's ridiculous. Natural motion, though, in Draymond's defense. I mean, Draymond defense I mean that that would be great. Like the Draymond greens is those is prime time
Starting point is 00:26:32 Those are just the like crazy ones like those are the ones that get caught, you know, we have tape on Protect your junk. You're always taught to you know cover up. up. I mean, he's definitely targeted. So that one, they're probably going to let that one slide. And then... I mean, that one looks like accidental because he's, like, pushing the dude. So the dude is being pushed back. I mean, so that... What about the Savonar's one? No, I'm talking about the one against him.
Starting point is 00:27:01 That doesn't look like it was on purpose. That's a natural motion. On purpose. Yeah, that was on purpose. He, boom, and then jumped up again. That one was insane. Trampolined him. Trampolined him.
Starting point is 00:27:11 And is Draymond under a big microscope because he brings his attention to himself? Like, we think about that Kings game. Adam Silver in the building, he's going crazy on the crowd. Of course. I mean, you know, his style, what he's been doing, what he's known for. I mean, you're gonna always, even if they don't catch it, somebody complains about it, sends the tape in, they're gonna review it. So he's gonna always be looked at, just like Rasheed Wallace was with talking back to the ref so, you know He's gonna have to try to be on his best behavior or those
Starting point is 00:27:49 Those those technicals and Flavs are gonna mount up like usual and then in playoffs, you know That's where it's gonna be. That's what hurts the team. Yeah, I Wonder how much he's paid in fines antics That'd be interesting number to know. I think it's funny that he, I mean, the way he plays basketball, obviously he's a defensive stopper. He brings the ball up for them sometimes. He's so important to that Warriors team.
Starting point is 00:28:13 But the way that, like, people are just kind of annoyed with him, but, like, he hasn't really become, like, a villain. Like, he's just Draymond. Is it because he's a champion? Yeah. Is that because he's a champion? Because I like things that, like, Dylan Brooks does and Draymond. Like it because he's a champion? Yeah. Is that because he's a champion? Yeah, because I like things that Dylan Brooks does and Draymond. They're very similar, but people hate Dylan Brooks. He's just Draymond on the Warriors. He's on the winning team. And he's proven.
Starting point is 00:28:38 He's proven already, so a lot of the things he can get away with. He can get away with it. And he's on the same team, so it's like, you know, it's the Warriors problem to everybody. It's not like, oh, he gonna go to this team. It's like, he's on the same team, so this is what he does. Yeah. I remember when you just asked about the fines, I remember there was a big thing back when we were playing, like, where the fine money go? Where's all the fine money go?
Starting point is 00:29:01 And I just wanted to say, stupids, it don't go nowhere because it's the owner. It's my money. I don't need to write you a check and then take it out. I just don't give that money. So if I owed you $300,000 and you got fined $150,000, I just write you $150,000. It goes nowhere. It's still in my pocket. Does it get split up between the league, though, or does it go... Why? I'm just... What I'm saying is I...
Starting point is 00:29:27 Because the league can suspend you, so doesn't the league get something from that? No. You suspend my play... Like, it's like if you don't go to work, where does your check go? It stays in the person who writes the check's pocket. So there's not, like, a fine account? Yeah, but it's not a team but if it's not a team fine then then like if it comes from the NBA the NBA gonna want their money I thought it just went to Adam Silver he just no
Starting point is 00:29:55 I feel I think it does go somewhere cuz I remember we had a conversation about this once I can't I can't remember where it goes but it goes somewhere the fine money you would think. That's what they say. Think of it like this. I write the check, right? So what I'm supposed to do, I got deducted all, boom. Then write Draymond his check
Starting point is 00:30:16 and then write this check that goes to the league. Hey, this is the money that we suspended for Draymond. No, but I'm going motherfucking saves up my pocket. Like, if a dude missed the whole season. Think about it. If a dude gets suspended the whole season, right, the team, the owner just keeps the money.
Starting point is 00:30:38 That's just money he do not have to write out. That's it. Like, I don't. Like, they think that I write the check, okay, and then I'm still paying. You suspended... Because if you suspend my player, the lead, you suspend let's say John Moran back then. You spend it for eight days. I'm still
Starting point is 00:30:54 writing a check as if he played. So you're not writing that check to go somewhere else? Yeah. If I still have to pay for this same person, then he's playing. What the fuck? What you talking about?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Now, he's playing. Then you just take it from him. You're not going to have me lose the asset, and then I still got to pay his salary. No. That just stays right in the pocket. Adam, you can say whatever you want to say. Oh, he did this. Oh, it goes to charities. I bet.
Starting point is 00:31:27 So, Lexi, you asked the question how much has he paid in fines. He's paid over a million dollars in fines during his career. The largest one was close to $130,000 in the one-game suspension for the dick punch to LeBron during the 2016 finals. How much? Over a million. Over a million. Over a million.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Over a million. All right. That hurts. Oh my gosh. That makes me sick. He also got fined for contract detriment with the team when he got in that spat with Kevin Durant. Had to pay $120,000 for that. Jesus. How much did you get paid for the knockout?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Oh, my goodness. He probably didn't get suspended, huh? In practice? They didn't want him to miss a ring night, so. Ha! That's true. That would have definitely been a damper. That's called an organization.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Shit, he got $100 million for that. No, I'm just saying, that's good. It did. He sure did. They paid him for that. Yo, that, yeah, yeah. We want to suspend Ring Knight. It's more than your face.
Starting point is 00:32:25 The man needs to get his ring. Damn. Okay. All right. So on the subject of Draymond, he actually got away with one recently in the in-season tournament. So the yet to be better named in-season tournament tipped off this Friday. Slate of seven games. Most of them were actually competitive.
Starting point is 00:32:38 It's a horrible name. It sucks. It's a tournament and it's in season. I'm still trying to get it. Because we have it too, but ours is called the Commissioner's Cup. Oh, that's what that's called? Yeah, ours is... they need to change in season tournament. They also call it, but...
Starting point is 00:32:53 That's what it says, in season tournament. That looks terrible. That's like Crypto Arena, ain't nobody. So how is it? What do you mean? Just regular season games are Commissioner Cup games, and then they do East-West, and whoever has the best record in the commissioners cup games on the east and the ones who have the best record on the
Starting point is 00:33:10 west then they play the championship so it's uh so it's just like the regular championship east versus west pretty well no because our league we don't do east west for playoffs it's just top eight but the commissioner cups games are it's like i think it's the first time you play i'm not even exactly sure because our coaches don't really hype it up like they should and we make money no you get bonuses for yeah you get like half a million dollars to split amongst the team like it's a good amount especially if you don't play like don't get them like what everybody gets it but yeah we did it so they need to fix that name so back to the end season tournament
Starting point is 00:33:50 there was a little bit of controversy involving Draymond Green in the Warriors Thunder game let's take a look so Steph had the game win the layup Draymond hit the rim initially called an offensive goal 10 later overturned but you can also see Giddy making the net tooend, later overturned, but you can also see Giddey making the net
Starting point is 00:34:06 too. So it was overturned? So bucket counted. Bucket counted. And then after the game, Draymond offered his thoughts on the inaugural in-season tournament, specifically about that game. He said, you just saw two teams competing. We talk about this in-season tournament, and it's a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:34:22 It was a fun game to play and intensity level was there. So job well done to the NBA. Having this type of excitement in November because there were some dark days in November, but games like this, you can appreciate them. Dre trying to get back in the leagues. Get crazy. Like what?
Starting point is 00:34:36 Good job, NBA. Time to get that teeter. Good job, NBA. Y'all let that go. So we all watched those games on Friday. What are your thoughts on the in season tournament so far? We look at the courts and all the other stuff going on seems like they're trying to make it a thing When it comes to the course, I thought they were lazy and creating them
Starting point is 00:34:54 They're so ugly Yeah, as you could have been like if this is like what you're trying to do like change it up Then you should have changed it. There's like six teams with the same red Like the only thing that changes it is their logo. Like fuck off. Like if you go have 30 unique courts, there shouldn't be six gray courts. We got three dark gray, three light gray,
Starting point is 00:35:16 fucking a whole bunch of reds. Like really like make it look. Change the color away from the outer line versus the end court. That's all one same color So it's red and red so the whole make like one really nice court that all the all the games are played on Instead of having everyone having their own. No, I want my own Yeah, like a fling the finals court kinda maybe they'll do that for the chimmyship and have everyone's logo on it
Starting point is 00:35:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah like something real cool. But just have just make sure like that for the championship. And have everyone's logo on it? Yeah, like something real cool. But just make sure, like that is the in-season tournament court. That looked like something they were doing on 2K. Trying to make some outside court. It was so hard to watch. It was too bright. It was too much like it was red and red. The outside should have been a different color versus on-side the court.
Starting point is 00:36:03 And then even through the stripe, that should have been a dude like like it should have been two to this should have been three-toned like the court should be a three-tone court instead of just red and light red in the middle like the fuck is this we talked about the course what about the the quality of actual play in the game Oh kills November basketball I think some teams took it more serious than others one no one knows what the fuck like you still have players what to figure out what is going on. We don't know what's going on. You're just playing.
Starting point is 00:36:27 500 recs. Or you saw that video of Steph when he was like, it's in-season tournament game day. Like, I couldn't tell if he was being for real or not. Yeah, no, they're probably just being like. I've seen a lot of dudes talking that look like they're somebody, you know, either one of their family members kidnapped in a room somewhere or a gun in their head. Because, ah, we're super excited about the in-season tournament. I don't even know how this thing works. There's definitely some sarcasm in it.
Starting point is 00:36:48 In-season tournament, yeah. Like, the Larry O'Brien trophy will always be the number one. Now, here's the real question. What is the concept of this? Right? The concept is what? To get the beginning of the season started? I guess make it more entertaining and make some more bread.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Okay, so, okay. Besides the bread part, right? We know what they're trying to do for the players. They want it to be more entertaining, right? They want it more. Won't they give out a better incentive? Yeah, I think money is, like we talked about last week, they have so much money.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Like, what is it? 500, like... That's a lot of money, don't get me wrong. You know what I'm saying? The people who need it. The people who need it are the people who can't affect the game. The people who can't affect the game, they're on like 400,000. They, you know, they got a vet mem. Yeah, they, yo, yeah, we love this. Everybody else, you know, that's a, they probably make that per game anyway. Right, right. Right? So, if you really want this to
Starting point is 00:37:46 be some serious thing, won't you give a real reward? And I say there's 14 lottery picks, right? Whoever wins it, that 15 pick consider it lottery. So the winner of this gets a lottery pick. Now, what does that do for teams? Now teams don't want to rest people. Teams want to go out there and now that means training camp is about to be real training camp again. We really trying to get in started. So, this first part of November, we're trying to win this so we can get a lottery pick. That means Lakers, Bucks, Boston, they have a chance to be rewarded for being in shape, for coming out the gates. You get rewarded for this. So that
Starting point is 00:38:34 should be the incentive. Like, hey, whoever wins this, $500,000, but the organization, you get a lottery pick. Even if it's number 14 or number 15, you get a lottery. You get a guaranteed lottery pick. Do you think players would care about that versus getting some bread? It don't. A player? No, a team, dude. Your core players do. Your core
Starting point is 00:38:58 players, like, you know, like, let's say LeBron, ADD, you know, those are the core. Fuck yeah. We can get a little lottery pick. We can get somebody that can probably come in and, like, really help us right now. Yeah. Fuck yeah. That's for the future, too. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:13 It's, I've never seen, it's only in sports, never in the rest of the world where losers get rewarded. Right? Imagine you're at your job and you are the worst at what you do. You get a bonus. And you get a bonus. That's what the number one pick is. The number one pick, number two, three, those are bonuses. Why do the worst get a bonus for being the worst?
Starting point is 00:39:42 They should be penalized for being the worst. Right? You shouldn't be able to go into the season. Like should be penalized for being the worst. Right? You shouldn't be able to go into the season. Like, let's say Memphis. What is Memphis' incentive now to try to win games? No, they don't. Well, yeah, Jock comes back, yeah, but for the most part, we want to stay at the bottom.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Now, because we can get a lottery pick. We can get the one, two, or three pick to help our franchise. That is the wrong mindset if you're talking about enticing basketball. Last place, the last two, they should be penalized. So how do those teams
Starting point is 00:40:13 get better then? Through the draft. Make better picks. Better picks, better decisions in the summer. Do your job. Your job is to scout and do that. So that means you should be able... If you're the last two teams,
Starting point is 00:40:31 that should be fucking in-season tournament. The bottom four teams... Fuck the play-in game. The bottom four teams, bottom four teams on each group, boom, those teams should be playing. Whoever is fucking out in the first round, you can't get past six pick.
Starting point is 00:40:48 The NBA way off, Adam Silver. You can't get past the six pick. I am not rewarding losing. You get less balls in the Western A.M. You lose, you come in last place. You come in last place, your lottery pick is 14. Second to last, 13. Now it makes you, at the end of the season, not want, like, let's say Dame.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Right, Dame in Portland? They wouldn't have binged him the last eight games. Because now they don't want to be. I don't want to be last. Fuck that. We need you to win some games. Right? Like, you should be penalized for being fucking last place.
Starting point is 00:41:22 It stops losing. Winners, like, you're a winner. You don't get re- I get the 30th pick in the NBA draft or a second round pick because I won Because I won. Yeah. Yeah, I'm the best employee and I get the worst fucking Team over here to celebrate a like the number one pick San Antonio Fuck out of y'all. You're losers, man. Yeah. So back to the game. Friday's average margin of victory was 4.9 points.
Starting point is 00:41:53 That's the second smallest on a single night with a minimum of seven games in the last 10 seasons. This is NBA propaganda I'm reading to you. But let's go back to that Steph Curry game winner right quick. And let's really talk about that. One-on-one, Lou Dort. Work. So, KD pulled up to NBA Hooper vision with Q. Rich and Darrell Wright for the second half of the game, and on the final play said,
Starting point is 00:42:15 Steph, don't need a screen to get a bucket. So, raises an interesting point, and I'm curious to hear your guys' opinion on it. Does a real Hooper need a screen to get a bucket? No. No. No. I mean Gil would need one in high school against me, but no.
Starting point is 00:42:32 I love a good screen, but yeah, no. A real Hooper don't need a screen. He's bringing another defender to you. I single-handedly created one for a flat. It was considered a play. You know how y'all do floppy and all that? There was a play. I'm pretty sure you see it now. When you do that, that's called open.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Drop the ball, open. That means everybody back down and go. Four across, me. I did that play about ten times. That was my play. So I don't know what screen you're gonna need a screen for when these screen for the guy in front of me can't stop me Rangers have been on an island by himself. So it don't matter who it is You can show for a game winner. Now. You don't need no screen. No nothing. No, you got
Starting point is 00:43:24 They'll trap you. You might get a bigger player on you. Yeah, that's what it is. You go screen, zone. I mean, they can zone it up. They can switch it. They can trap it. They can, like, what is, I never understood,
Starting point is 00:43:38 what is the purpose of the pick and roll and that, like, there's, what are you trying to get? Like, get your man off you so you can go against him? How much time you got left? You know what I mean? I never understood the pick and roll. It's for motion. Like, you know, screen it just to get ball movement,
Starting point is 00:43:55 get people moving. Three! Oh, I like the end of the game. Yeah. Oh, end of the game. End of the game, yeah. Yeah. I mean, to potentially get a weaker defensive matchup,
Starting point is 00:44:04 but you want the best defender, Darnie? There's too many elements that can happen. If I have you by yourself already and everyone's down, I have left, right, you're going to back up, pull up. It's hard for once they put the, what's the name line line there now you have to get outside of that to take a charge. I mean, it's it's there's no help Yeah, it's the hardest deep is the hardest thing the guard was a one-four flat Virtually unstoppable So Steph was rocking some special shoes during the games we so we got to take a moment to highlight that.
Starting point is 00:44:47 So we see the play. Like Clay. Look how he's being defensive. But we need to see the kicks. No, that's not the game. Where are the kicks last night? Oh, a different game. Oh, he wore them yesterday.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Yeah, last night. Okay, he wore them last night. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like... Let's check out the kicks the staff was wearing. I was going to say, look at Clay. Like, why are you guarding somebody over there? Right.
Starting point is 00:45:15 That's pointless. Like, even... Yeah, like, it's not going to Clay. Yeah, it's not going to Clay that far out. Yeah. You know, and then... Chet, you have Draymond Green. You should have already been far out. Yeah. You know, and then, um, Chet, you have Draymond Green. You should have already been over there.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Yeah. He was, yeah, because he got high trying to contest that. That's what I'm saying. He should have already been, you should have been there. Like, you have Draymond, what's Draymond going to do? Shoot a three? Mm-hmm. Cool.
Starting point is 00:45:37 That's who you wanted to go to, right? That's what I'm saying. But that's, but with a defense like that, there's actual help. You can actually help. So we showed the game Friday. Let's move to Sunday when Steph was wearing some special kicks. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Some tough crowd in the building. So, Brandon... Brandon, you did your Giannis thing, pulled up, blessed everybody with a pair of the Tough Crowd-Steph collab. What's it like doing a collab with arguably the greatest point guard of all time? Man, I think just from our history with Under Armour, me being the first athlete, him now being the main athlete now,
Starting point is 00:46:18 I think it's just a full circle moment. It's awesome to do a collab with your peers. So hopefully with us doing this collab, more of our peers will do more collabs for us together because a lot of us, we're into fashion now, into different other things, and guys are getting a lot of money and venturing off to different businesses.
Starting point is 00:46:36 So hopefully this can be the start of more of my peers collabing. That'd be fire. That's great when the players really jump back out to collab. The older generation didn't do... No, they didn't... It wasn't a thing. Like Dame, even with... Dame has his own signature shoe, but he collabed with me to create a shoe on my line, which he did have to do, but he did it. Like, you know, I like the new school, man. They really...
Starting point is 00:47:09 Yeah. It's like we pay homage more to each other. Like, I think, you know what I'm saying? Like, we want to be cool with each other and our peers because, I mean, so many different opportunities now. You know, Steph, with this collab, you know, he has a liquor, he's into golf, he's into so many different things.
Starting point is 00:47:24 So this Tough Crowd Basketball collab is just one, just the first step to many different things. Is it the 2000s? I don't want to say it's the most friendly era of people really teaming up. I think the eras before, I don't think they got enough respect for each other to even help each other. A lot of haters. To be honest, even though they don't like me, I'm the only one that keeps the 80s alive. To be honest, I'm the only one who talks about them. I'm the only one that talks about them.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I think just us, we can see it. Like the Internet, right? Like, you know, our kids can, you know, see our highlights and stuff on the Internet. So we're more visible. And, you know, we're more outside, too, than a lot of guys. So, you know, I think our kids, you know, I'm sure your kid keep you young, you know, things like that. So it's just different things that we see today to why we're able to always connect with each other Even even your pop shoe, right the most iconic the most iconic thing in the dunk contest
Starting point is 00:48:37 When it dumped and then We all went to the store just to do that I hope the game aside even after like that's iconic that was like the icon just to do that. I hope the game was sizable back then. That's iconic. That was iconic. The iconic. When Reebok come back. And they bring it back. That's an iconic moment.
Starting point is 00:48:50 They let me do their little campaign. It was actually during COVID. We did a photo shoot over FaceTime. And me and my friend, we went to a park. And we did the whole re-release of the pumps. And now they've been releasing them every year. They just did a collab with Mischief, I think. Him and my brother did a commercial. It was in Times Square. It was really cool when brands realize these full
Starting point is 00:49:15 circle moments and they do things about it. Yeah, showing love is free. Don't be a hater. It's free. It costs nothing to show love. It costs nothing to show love nothing the hating so fun that's just there's so there's so many there's so wait no because hating is cool now it's weird look at the chat oh my god it's so easy it's just so easy to hate i feel like it's easier to hate now than show love it's like the it's like i wonder how many people would hate if that shit cost cost you something yeah every time you hate showing love going to be free, but if you started getting charged for hating, I wonder how many people would keep hating.
Starting point is 00:49:48 They'd be even broker than they are now. I don't know how it's possible, but nonetheless it is. Sometimes you just got to wake up and just hate some shit. I thrive off negativity. Hating is fun though sometimes, be real. It's always enjoyable to hate. Just going in looking for just the wrong comment. They'd be like, Gil, love you, love the show, love it. Shut up, shut up, shut up. You know, it's always enjoyable to hate. Just going in looking for just the wrong comment. They'd be like, Gil, love you, love the show, love it.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Shut up, shut up, shut up. You. You are the one I have been talking to. What'd you say about my mama? I save them in a doc, and then every day for the direct deposit, I just read them all, and then I go check the... And then I smile. So let's keep this thing moving.
Starting point is 00:50:22 We got to talk about the beard. James Harden addressed the media for the first time in a Clippers uniform last week. Had some interesting things to say about his time with the Sixers and his role with the team. I don't think when I'm in a leash, I'm not just shooting the basketball
Starting point is 00:50:37 every time. I'm like, I think the game and I'm a creator on the court. So if I got a voice to where I can hey coach I see this you know what you think about this then it's like okay like somebody that trusts me that believes in me that understands me that I'm just not a you know I'm not a system player I am a system you know I mean so um somebody that can have that dialogue with me and understand and and move forward and figure out and make adjustments on the fly throughout the course of games.
Starting point is 00:51:07 That's all I really care about. You know, it's not about me scoring a basketball, scoring 30, 34 points. I've done it already. So that's what I meant by that. The bar. Harden's former teammate, reigning MVP, Joel Embiid, didn't necessarily agree with the beard saying he was on a leash in Philly. I wasn't going to do my Embiid voice, but it makes me cough when I do it, so I'm going to read it normal. In my opinion, we gave him the ball every single possession because he's really good.
Starting point is 00:51:33 We give him the ball every single possession, just go out and, you know, do his thing. From there, had to make decisions as far as getting guys open or looking out for himself. So Gil, we'll start with you. What do you think Harden means when saying, I'm not a system player. I'm a system Every star player is a system right you build the system around them Like triangle was a system, but it was Michael Jordan, right? Allen Iverson was a system. Curry is a system, right? The problem with the system is if everyone else can't function inside your system,
Starting point is 00:52:15 that's where the problem becomes. Like, you are a system, but you need to have a system for them to survive. Like, I understand what he's saying, but the problem is, like, if you're a great player, it doesn't matter what a system is, you're going to create it to fit your mold anyway. But, I mean, I do understand what he's, you know, getting at, that, you know, he can't fit the Princeton, he is the Princeton, and how he moves is how... I mean, that's just not the situation in Philly, though. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Like, you know, with me, that just wasn't the situation. So, I mean, he still averaged, what, 22 and 10, and, you know, he probably didn't feel like it, like himself, but, I mean, if you're that great of a player, though, you should be able to, you know, turn it around however you feel like it. Yeah. I mean, how much of that is on him? How much of that is on the coach?
Starting point is 00:53:14 And obviously Doc Rivers there before Nick Nurse took over this season. Like, we've talked about this before a little bit, too. Do we feel like he was changing his game? Was he being forced to do it? Or did he make a conscious decision now playing along in an elite talent like Embiid that I don't need to shoot the ball as much? It's that whole thing with coaching, right?
Starting point is 00:53:39 You know, never tell a player what you think he should average. Or tell him to, I need you to delegate the ball more, play the right way, right? You know, I think just hoopers themselves, when a coach tells them play the right way, they assume that the way they're playing now is wrong, right? Oh, I must be doing something wrong if he's telling me to play the right way. Is that, you know, just go out there and pass the ball every time?
Starting point is 00:54:03 No, play the right way means do what just go out there and pass the ball every time? No. Play the right way means do what you do at your best ability. If you can average a triple-double, average a triple-double. If you can get 20 rebounds, try to go to... I need everybody playing the right way means playing
Starting point is 00:54:19 what your skill level is. If you're Steve Nash or Rondo and you can sit here and get 20 assists, playing the wrong way is you're trying to score 40 points. Right? If you're trying to get 60 assists,
Starting point is 00:54:33 you're playing the right way. Right? If you're a fast point guard, pushing the ball every single time down the court, trying to get into the paint, that's playing the right way. You sitting there passing ball around,
Starting point is 00:54:47 saying, oh, I'm getting everybody involved, but you walking the ball up the court, that's's playing the right way you sitting there passing ball around saying oh I'm getting everybody involved but you walking the ball up because that's not playing the right way to me but what if you're like just way faster than the rest of your team so you playing at your highest ability which is pushing the ball push the ball you turn around your whole team is back there so the shoot every time yes BB down the court so yeah so they're so, like, when he says I'm a system, like, he's meaning, like, his team has to rise their level of play to meet his level of play, and he doesn't have to water his down to make everybody else happy.
Starting point is 00:55:14 That's probably exactly what he means. I mean, that's what happened in Philly, I think. He kind of had to water himself down a little bit. And I think there's a disconnect between Embiid and him. So Harden was explaining how he wished he had more dialogue with the coaching staff, was able to make more decisions, and Embiid was just like, he just wants to shoot the ball every time. He just wants to score.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I think Embiid was just saying, well, we put the ball in your hand a lot. Yeah, but it's deeper than that. Everything ran through you. But it didn't. We've seen that. We've seen when the ball runs through Embiid, which is what they were used to. But the problem with that is you're not Jokic, right? Where if you're getting double, you're going to make the right play, right? You're going to just try to keep scoring. Double teams, no double teams. So there's going to be
Starting point is 00:55:59 way more bad possessions with you trying to be the main playmaker versus somebody else who's going to make that play. So if Jokic is on that team, the offense is running through Jokic, not Embiid for me, because I know Embiid is going to have 33 and 12. Jokic is going to have 24, 12, and 12. So he's going to generate more points for that game itself, right? So it's like who who makes Who generates more points out of the group? That's who that's who our office is running through You know, so you feel like Harden statement will have any impact on the Clippers locker room Like if you're one of his Clippers teammates now seeing him sound my system How are you reacting to that low key low key?
Starting point is 00:56:44 Cuz I do want to know what that means. Because everyone was like, that's a bar, but no one was explaining it. Because if you are coming over here with Kawhi, Russ, and PG and all these guys, I do want to know what that means. So what system? So we know what system we in. The old days. That's what I said, everyone's a system. What Curry does is a system, right? And if you want to play with Curry, you're going to have to adapt to what he does. What he does is what? Move without the ball, pass, cut, be in condition.
Starting point is 00:57:15 His system is what he does, right? And if you can't function inside that system, then... So whose system are they functioning around in with the Clippers right now? To be honest, I don't even know if they really truly have a system because they've all been heard and not been playing Clippers, huh? Yeah Clipper system should be just open run. Yeah Rico Rico runs. Get it and go. Get it and go. Listen, I can tell you this in a sense where when you're talking about just natural ability, if they don't win 20, 30 games in a row, I mean, they should look at each other in the face and be like, in a row?
Starting point is 00:58:06 In a row? Not at that. How many games? At their age? How many games did Golden State win in a row? If they all played. First 24 of the season. So if, like, say PG don't play
Starting point is 00:58:21 and they lose, is that going to count towards their 20th run? I think because of age. I think because of age. That's why they won't be able to do it. Early 30s? Who? Early 30s. They're injured. No, they're not. They are in their early 30s.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Russ is older than me. I'm 34. Kawhi's pretty. Russ is 34, turns 35 November 12th. PG's 30 what? 34. 35 so everybody's like a Russ Russ is 34 turns 35 November 12th PG's 30 what 34 34, okay there was 32 32 Yeah, but cause like really they all they all vets man. There's just 33. They both about 30 and then Arden
Starting point is 00:59:05 They heart 30. they all about 37 Arts 34. Yeah, they write the baby like this is it This is a window where they supposed to be dominating, but they're not is I don't even think they in shape or healthy But what I'm saying is this is that this is where they are prime. Oh, yeah mentally they they know they body This is where they could just sit there and just... Kill everybody. This is like Bulls 96. That group was a little older than everybody. That 98, that's them. Where they can come down
Starting point is 00:59:33 and lock down on defense. They can switch everything. Offense, you can't really do anything with none of them. They have the one-on-one personnel. They have shooting. They're still all athletic. I the person i mean i mean i'm just saying but they could i mean just no no no they definitely know i hear what you said they definitely could i just don't know if they this is like this is like t-mag yeah this is like t-mag ai uh kobe vince all on the same team you'd be like
Starting point is 01:00:02 yo this could get ugly real quick. And speaking of Kobe, Kobe made those comments a few years ago that he didn't think that playing that ball-dominant style that Harden was playing with the Rockets would ever lead to a championship. Harden seems to have taken that to heart. He said, you know, he has some things to prove with this Clippers squad, but mainly that I'm a lead as an individual and that I can fit in with anybody and make a championship run work.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Also, that squad, the Clippers squad, seems to be all on the same page, not really tripping on individual stats. They got one goal. Obviously, that's two rays. It's the Clippers, man. It's the Clippers, man. And they all got something to prove. He said that he wants to prove that I'm very elite as an individual and that I could fit in with anybody and make a championship run work. He also said, I think all of us are on the same page in the sense of the individual stats and all of those things are past us. So we've done all that. So at this point, we just, we can only judge on what we see. We can't just, we can't pretend. He said he wants to prove that he can make a championship run. Yeah. And prove that he can play team. He he didn't fit in Don't care about so he hasn't before that
Starting point is 01:01:08 We can just assume no no no no disaster so any of the teams that he has before they have I mean No, and they went with okay see to the finals that was that was he was he was young but he didn't turn into his dominant self yet Houston He didn't turn into his dominant self yet. Houston? Houston, the problem is the bump was who was going to get off the ball at the end of the game. See, I thought that series, the ball should have been in Chris Paul's hand the last five minutes to stop bad shooting, to stop them hero shots, turnovers shots, them, you know, turnovers where you get ripped and then you sit there and do this and then they're making a layup, giving up two points.
Starting point is 01:01:49 There was like key moments in the game where you're giving up six points on, I pass the ball here, they rip it, and you're just not going to go back on defense, right? I lost the ball or I took this bad shot because I just hit two. That all stopped if Chris Paul had the ball to then give it to you for you to make the right play
Starting point is 01:02:05 And I think just that that little dynamic kind of just ruined it and then yeah and Chris Paul missing What's that game six with the groin? Yeah that because they were up 3-2 going back to go to say, hmm Yeah, that was yeah, let me talk about longest winning streaks in gay history 72 Lakers 133 straight 2012 the 72 Lakers. Oh, that's before the black people came into the league. Your second favorite era. That's before the real black people came into the league. The real black people. He won 27 straight.
Starting point is 01:02:33 The Jerry Curl wearing blacks. Pre-Jerry Curl League and post-Jerry Curl League. 15-16 Warriors were third with 24 straight. So you think the Clippers should be somewhere on that list? They could. I mean, they could. That West is tough.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I'm just saying, they could. Like, if you get a nice little schedule and you coming out there trying to get wins, like, you know, teams that, like, offensively are, they clicking. It's hard to stop an offensive team. So this is the most talented
Starting point is 01:03:04 Clipper team we've ever seen? This is probably the most talented offensive team we've probably seen. From the Clippers? Period. Better than the Warriors? The KD? Yeah, I'm about to say, yeah. You're talking one-on-one.
Starting point is 01:03:19 I mean, you got three players who's averaged 30 in their career. One averaged 35? Yeah, it's fair. We're talking about... They're not winning 20 in a row, though. Huh? They're not winning 20 in a row. It's the age.
Starting point is 01:03:36 It's the age. Like, if this happened two or three years ago... How old were Steph and all them when they had that season? Steph and them was in the... 29. Like, 29, 30. But look at Steph, though. Like, right now, he's the same age. He's still running around.
Starting point is 01:03:53 He's prime. He's in the same age, the same team. That's why. Because it's the same. It's the same. So, Gil, you're saying that this Clippers squad is the greatest offensive team on paper of all time? Probably, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Like, who else would it be? Are you also taking, like, the bench into consideration and stuff or just these four? I mean, you got Bones who's on the bench too. Their bench is pretty tough, but... I think just from a starting line-up standpoint. I mean, you know mean from from what 70s
Starting point is 01:04:27 80s all the way until what 90 99 2000 i mean it was all like defense like you were trying to stack your team defensively you didn't really focus on offense where you're thinking about offensive players like there there's i mean i mean like there's rarely two teams, like three players that average 20-something points. That was rare. And now you got four? I was going to say it's Phoenix, but they only got three. Yeah, you might be right. Four guys that average.
Starting point is 01:05:00 I mean, there's four guys that Kawhi might be the weakest scorer out of the three out of the four. And look at him. I mean, that's what I'm saying. So, like, that says a lot. Yeah, yeah. He's the fourth. Kawhi. Fuck.
Starting point is 01:05:18 So, rank those scoring options now for me with Harden on that squad. Who's the best scorer on the team? Give me the order. Harden. Harden. Harden with Harden on that squad? Who's the best scorer on the team? Give me the order. Harden. Harden. Harden. Paul George. You put Harden at number one.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Ooh, that's wild. PG2. PG2. Kawhi, three. Russ, four. But, okay, we know. But what's it going to be like with that squad? Obviously with Harden coming in.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Paul George, one. Kawhi to anything Paul George score better than quality He's more float the Kawhi Maybe down playing. I don't know. What's the problem? Listen? I don't know. I watch Kawhi man. I'm like... What's the issue? It just looks bad, but the dude, the one thing he can do that no one's going to give him credit for, he can shoot that thing. That's what I'm saying. Like, I want to put him in a three-point contest. I really want to... I don't...
Starting point is 01:06:17 Why has he never been in a three-point contest? Has he? I don't know. But I just... If all four of them play one-on-one bro Why might come out of there? Like he's so unorthodox that it's just it doesn't look cute. No koala. Then it might come out of there One on one we talk
Starting point is 01:06:39 Yeah, I mean one-on-one because like how he plays like if that's the typical it's like That's why I'm like, I think. Low-key, it's like, yeah, James, bring the ball up. Get that thing to that hand. To that claw. You saw that steal he got? Was it in the L.A. game? He, like, just put his hand down. I think James bring it up, and then we give it to Kawhi Leonard.
Starting point is 01:07:00 I'm not bringing it. I want Russ to bring it up. It's faster. Okay. I need that ball. I need it. And then he can bringing it up. I won't rush to bring it up. It's faster. Okay. I need that ball. I need that. And then he can give it up. But, I mean, Kawhi, he can just, man, he can shoot the, like, he can shoot.
Starting point is 01:07:12 I want to know what his mid-range, like, if he took 200 mid-range shots, I want to know how many he makes. Why don't they do a mid-range contest at the All-Star Weekend? A mid-range contest. Nah, I'm pretty sure, man, like, when you watch him, he gets into the pull-up, you just be like, cash. He reminds me of when Jordan. People didn't realize that Jordan's athleticism was over the top, but he can shoot the ball. He shot the mid-range very well. When people talk about Rip Hamilton shooting, Jordan and Kawhi.
Starting point is 01:07:43 That's what I'm saying. He might be that number one option still. Let's talk a little bit about those hard and leash comments. This is more just a question for all three of y'all. What's it like being on a leash versus a coach trusting you? You're on a leash at some point in your NBA career.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Don't blame me. I was a leash boy already. I had the key. I had the key. I had the key. What are you talking about? At any point in your basketball career, Arizona, you're unleashed there or they just let you go? Only time I was unleashed is if I didn't get in the game. That's real. Listen, I know I'm going to keep saying this, brother. But look, I had a gift. The gift was knowing how to put the ball in the basket,
Starting point is 01:08:30 understand human behavior, like angles. That was what I was good at, understanding, like, this guy's fast and come off. If I stop, he's going to try to overrun. I knew all of that. So, you know, once coaches realized that, it was really no... Like, I've never had a coach just say I want you to flip Murr I mean flip Saunders did that oh we don't need you to average 30 we need
Starting point is 01:08:52 you average 22 22 and like 7 and that's exactly what I was averaging 22 and 7 on the dot that's when you know because you're petty too yeah 22 and seven, I'm going to die. I'm going to get exactly what you're telling me. Let's see where I win. Okay, 10 games under 500. Because he's petty. He's going to get 22 and seven and stop playing. He's going to be like, I told you so.
Starting point is 01:09:16 You told me to do this. Did you shut down at 22 or if you had a 14-point game, you're like, I got to fucking do this. I'm going to get to the 22. That's the easy part. That's it. No, but I never really had a coach that you know put the leash on. Yeah, I was fortunate I mean, yeah your former college coach Ludo said he had a quote. He said that's the good thing about Gilbert
Starting point is 01:09:35 He just goes out and plays so you never Were Brandon for ready to get some damn quotes for my people my people, huh? All these quotes you got quotes coaches and well you wasn't like that I'm gonna be real with you I googled just stats in Oak Hill and I got a question did you you say you played 40 games 41 yeah my senior year when you have 63 my senior no no no no no my senior year no my junior year we went 40 and one my senior year we went 34 and four because i'm because listen i played less games my no no what i'm gonna say it has you you had 63 yeah but if you average 35 that means you had to have like some 50s in there some for sure the whole year why Why aren't you all of the numbers?
Starting point is 01:10:26 I am in the book. I am all the numbers. No. Oak Hill has a book with all the records. I'm all the numbers. No, because on the scoring, it has you at 63, someone at 61, then it got somebody at 48, 49, 30, and then there's players that got three spots. I'm like, where's Brendan Jennings?
Starting point is 01:10:40 No, no, no. Did you play one game and then that was it? No, no. Gil, I had 50s at Oak Hill for sure that's what I'm trying Got nobody with 50 on the thing so I'm just saying maybe you wasn't like maybe you wasn't how you thought you was It's black for me No I'm in the record book.led. I'm in the record book.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Gil, I'm in the record book. Call him up. Lexi, for you, what's it like being on a leash versus a coach trusting you? I guess I wouldn't say a leash, but my first two seasons at Maryland, like we just had a really good team. And I had been a point guard my whole life, even my first two years at Maryland. So I was just responsible for making sure everybody got theirs. My first year, we got to the Final Four. Second year, the whole starting
Starting point is 01:11:30 lineup was averaging 13, 14. All five of us were. I was a point guard. But then when I got to Duke, my coach at Duke was like, you're a scorer, so go score. And that was the first time I really had a coach that was like, go score the ball for us. And that's when, like, my transition from the one to the two started. I'm sure you weren't probably mad at that. I mean, I fought it for a little bit. Really? Because I was just so used to, like, not being the most talented,
Starting point is 01:11:57 not the tallest, not the fastest. Like, that's just how I was growing up. And then all of a sudden I just got that confidence at Duke that I didn't have before. But, yeah, it was kind of a battle was a battle of getting off the ball a little bit and going to be the two guard. I see you out here doing something. I'm trying to look for... I think the leash I had probably was in Italy when I first went over there, not getting the chance to play, having to run the offense, not being able to play my game.
Starting point is 01:12:25 That was, like, my first time being on a leash. How hard was that adjustment? But that's Italy and obviously going overseas. Well, I mean, it was an adjustment because I just came back, just came out of Oak Hill averaging 35. So, you know, going over there, averaging, you know, four points a game, getting a lot of DNPs, like, being on a leash was, it was tough, but it helped me out a lot, though. And what was your first DMP like over, like you said, going from Oak Hill
Starting point is 01:12:48 playing the whole game, being the man, McDonald's All-American, now you go overseas, you can't even get in the game. Damn. They don't care about that shit. I know, but I'm just, but having to deal with that. So the reason why I was able to deal with it and get over it because I had my own trainer. Shout out to Bill Duffy, my agent at the time. They had a trainer come down there and train me when I wasn't playing and things like that. So I was still getting to work in and doing everything I needed to do. So that's what kept me motivated.
Starting point is 01:13:19 So you're saying you averaged 35 points in high school. Yeah. And then you went overseas and they said, nah, we good. You ain't good enough. Because I'm young. Because I was young. I was 18, 19. And I was, you know.
Starting point is 01:13:32 And they knew I wasn't going. They knew I wasn't going. Listen. But listen. Hey, but like Sonny said, you're going to be good, young fella. I still didn't play and I still went top 10 in the draft. You spent the whole season in Italy not playing? Yeah and then came back and went top 10. I mean that's amazing but... Even the dog sleeping on you brother.
Starting point is 01:14:00 My coach tried that shit with me, put me on the bench. I went home, I was like I'm going home. I didn't come here to sit on the bench. I went home. I was like I'm going home Yeah, I didn't come here to sit on a bench see but I couldn't go home because it wasn't about me Gil It was about the youth Sonny for Carl said if you finish this young fella every kid around the world would do it We'll try to do it or you know the game is well cuz I thought you know I was super a fan of it when it happened I was like, yeah, you know, I have you know I've never fought with the NCAA from a breast standpoint, but
Starting point is 01:14:26 Surprised more kids didn't try to follow that but it also takes a lot now to relocate go overseas What would the money's in there now? So, you know the money, you know, you could be in a 10th 11th grade getting paid Yeah, so that's why I did it goes for the kids in the future Yeah, you went over there for the future to sit on the bench. Wait, what year was that? There's some sorry ass guys Didn't make the... That was 2008. Did any of those guys make it to the NBA
Starting point is 01:14:49 that was on that team? Yep. It was a guy that played in the league that was on my team. Primo Brezics. So that's the guy who was playing in front of you? No, no. He was a center, but he played in the league. Not talking about the guards. Alan Ray that went to Villanova.
Starting point is 01:15:05 He was there. But this is my first year. Like, I'm a rookie. Like, I'm young. Like, they're not going to just let me come in here. Or he just wasn't as good as he thought he was. I was killing in practice. I was killing.
Starting point is 01:15:18 Oh, you was a practice killer. I went top ten off practice. That's how killer I was, Gil. What did you think you was going to do with me? Okay, that's a bar. I went top ten off practice. That's how killer I was, Gil. What did you think you was going to do with me? Y'all going to end the video. Okay, that's a bar. I went top 10 off practice. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:15:30 That's a good one. That's how hard I was working. Like how you was talking about putting in work, Gil. That's how you were. I went top 10 off practice. Come on, man. Give me some more. I like that.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Okay, that was a good one. All right, let's stop talking about practice. Let's talk about the game. Harden is scheduled to make his Clippers debut tonight against the Knicks in Madison Square Garden. According to Shams... That's a good entry game. According to Shams and the legend Long Murray, the Clippers are expected to have a starting
Starting point is 01:15:55 five of Westbrook, Harden, Kawhi, PG and Zubach. And Tyloo wants Russ to be the point guard with Harden off the ball. How will Harden handle playing off the ball and being potentially the Clippers' third option? Man, the game dictates. The game dictates what option you are. You know, you can't designate someone who's going to be the third option,
Starting point is 01:16:20 second option, first option. Like, Russ' job is to get the ball up as fast as you can, and then from there, whoever has that mismatch, whoever can put the ball in the basket at an efficient rate, that's how the game is going to be played. At this point,
Starting point is 01:16:37 moving without the ball, understanding spacing, trying to figure out how to score without having the ball in your hand is going to be the very, very most important thing to the team's success. Right? You know, if they go in there playing like Golden State style, backdooring, cutting, flashing, moving, passing,
Starting point is 01:16:57 it's going to be really hard to guard them because if you're cutting and slashing and doing all that, then I'm taking somebody off the drip. Nobody's going to be ready for the end of it. So I'm excited to see what it is. But that end is the beginning of the season, and this team is going to be very dangerous after all-star break. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:16 I think with these four guys playing together, I think somebody needs to sacrifice. And it's like when Kobe played for the USA team. Remember, he was all defense and he wasn't really scoring as much, but he was all over the place, but it wasn't from a scoring standpoint. I think that could be Russ in this situation. Picking up 94 feet, like you said, pushing the table, being a point guard, and just making the easier plays for everybody. So if they can find somebody that can sacrifice, because everybody can score and everybody can handle it,
Starting point is 01:17:50 but if somebody can just sacrifice and play that team role, like that Patrick Beverly type. This is heaven for him. For somebody like Russ, if you think about the teams he's had, which was a bunch of nobodies for the most part when it came to. We've seen what he did when he had Melo and Paul George. Now that Melo turns into a James Harden and a Kawhi, right, which you got flat out shooting. I mean, there might be a game where he probably breaks the assist record. If everybody's on fire, everybody's on fire,
Starting point is 01:18:25 he can single game, what is it, probably what, 30? 30, Scott Scowl's got it. Scott Scowl's got it. 36.
Starting point is 01:18:31 My man Scott Scowl's, 31. 31, I mean, he has the shooting, he has the shooting and the scores on his team to actually do that.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Yeah. So we talked last week about Russ probably being the one that had sacrificed, he's already sacrificed a lot, probably some more more but of Kawai and PG from a scoring standpoint who's going to sacrifice the most to get hard and incorporated Everybody man, it's it's a it's a it's a if they're talking about team thing. It's it's team right, you know
Starting point is 01:18:59 You're you're talking about, you know, three shots three shots here, right? You know you take three less shots, three shots here, right? You know, you take three less shots. But it's not, it's how you play the game. Like the game, the offense is manipulated. Great players manipulate how the offense is played, right? Once the penalty comes in, you can manipulate, right? You can take 20 shots, right, and have 20 points. You can take four shots and have 20 points because you got to the free throw line, you know, 12, 16 times, right, and have 20 points. You can take four shots and have 20 points
Starting point is 01:19:25 because you got to the free throw line, you know, 12, 16 times. Right, so it depends on, you know, how they figure out how to manipulate, you know, offense. And Harden, obviously, master at drawing fouls. You think that's going to be, we're going to see the Clippers in the bonus a lot this year. Yeah. Yeah, the bonus and also defense, too.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Their defense should be up. They got three guys that can play, like Quad, PG, Russ. So defense should be up. They got three guys that can play like Quad, PG, Russ. So they should be up there defensively too. James. James? He gonna play some hard. He gonna play some defense. I mean, who the fuck he got a guard now?
Starting point is 01:19:57 No, I'm just, I mean, that still don't mean you play defense. I mean, his offense is gonna make up for the defense. Yeah, but I'm just saying like the way teams are putting their teams together, there's always now two guys who can't score for shit on the court. They got a defense. You know what I mean? They go have somebody that's six-fold sitting there. Do you think they're going to 10-game win streak?
Starting point is 01:20:22 I think so. The one starting today? Yeah, I'm going to say-game win streak? I think so. One starting today? Yeah. I'm going to say yeah. Which one? Nah. I think like that. I think like January.
Starting point is 01:20:30 I think like December, January is going to be their month. 10 in a row? I think so. I don't think they're going to win 10 in a row after All-Star break. Hopefully February, you know. Nah. After All-Star? 10 in a row?
Starting point is 01:20:42 This is the beginning of the season. They only five games in. This is just like the season just started. Right. They're not even, what's their record? Are they even top five in the West? It don't matter. I don't think they're going to get their first ten in a row until after All-Star break.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Nah. I think they're going to be fighting for that play again. Clippers tied for fifth. Ooh. I'm so sorry. Hey, damn. Fighting for the play is crazy. I think they could be quite right. That's Clipper still
Starting point is 01:21:09 It's not the players. It's not what he was also when he said he was better in high school Well, and nobody agreed to said that nobody nobody in the valley agree But that coat I'm not want to meet that coat. I don't know to come over here You probably was a better player Overall I Was like scoring I was 100 Oh scoring. Okay. Yeah, I'll give you that because I was you know I was a point guard and a score. Yeah, but 100 but but you had to delegate but my senior is better than any year you had in high school Okay, but you're talking about the player who generates the most offense overall you think you generate more offense than him Brandon did yeah, that's a lie
Starting point is 01:21:49 That's a lie because if I'm averaging 35 7 and 7 and 5 that means I'm responsible for points and 35 Do you want to sit out? I was I was Luca. I was It was one of those where I'm going to ball slip Anybody else on your team average double figure anybody else on your team average double figures? That's some stuff and shit. Did anybody else on that team average double figures? Yeah, we were scoring like 90 points. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I'm just curious. It was like 53, 53. I was trying to score 100 every game. So we're going to go back to your point. You said Clippers, full strength. This roster stays healthy. God willing, playing team. They're going to be fighting for that 5-6. That's not a playing team.
Starting point is 01:22:47 I mean, well, I'm saying 5-6. I mean, 7-8 is the plan. So right there, they're going to be right there. No, no. They're all fighting to get out of the plane. Yeah, yeah. Not to get in the plane. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:55 They're going to be fighting. They're going to be fighting right there. They might flip first. No. They might flip first. I'm not. Listen, I hope the homies from L.A. do their thing for sure. They're going to be here.
Starting point is 01:23:03 They're going to be two or three. No, they're not finishing two or three. No way. No way. Oh, oh Denver. That's it Denver go to stay No to go to stay Dream on green got a guard quiet now. So that means he can't help no more Which I mean, he can't help no more. Why I gonna play the four. Yes. No Paul George Paul George him think about that So dream on can't roam anymore. So that means when they decide to go at Steph Know what I'm saying? Is he there but your best help man now has to guard an actual score that he can't help
Starting point is 01:23:39 He can't leave like that did this for actually what you mean? I got this has to guard George I mean he got your paper more they got committee they got all type of other players we can switch on that I switch on that we cuz we don't put them at the five put who at the five dream on so now you got a really go small ball yeah I'm just saying it's gonna be I mean it's difficult we'll see I know I it's gonna be it's gonna be difficult man see so Clippers first game tonight the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy.
Starting point is 01:24:06 We've got to take a look at some hardened pick-ems. What y'all like on this? Man, give me five assists. You think he's going over five and a half assists? What? Sir. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:20 We've got 14.5 points. Over points, for sure. 24.5 points. I don't know about the points. I don't think about them. I don't know about the points. I don't think about them. I don't know about the points. I'm scared of the points, but because him trying to score, I got to think about how he finished the last game.
Starting point is 01:24:32 I'm going with assists. Easy. See, I would lean towards 11 field goals attempted. I feel like they're going to let him shoot it. I don't know. I like the attempts now more than anything on these underdog pickups. I just need you to shoot. I don't care if we're going.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Two three-pointers. You don't know how many. In the guard. We don't know how many like the attempts now more than anything on these underdog pickups. I just need you to shoot. I don't care if it go in. Two three-pointers. You don't know how many. In the guard. We don't know how many minutes he's going to play. We don't know what his shape level is. But I know one thing for sure. He's going to have over five assists. He's going to have over five.
Starting point is 01:24:55 The person who led the league in assists last year. Yes. Russ said, give me those assists. Yes. That's the only thing that looked. So, hardest career high is 61. But don't take my word for it. I was 0 for 5.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Underdog. Underdog. If you're watching this, if you get all five right, you should get a prize. If you get all five wrong, you should get a prize too. You know how good you got to be. 0 for 5. 0 for 5. Like, I lost. Steph, I had higher than 4.5 assists.
Starting point is 01:25:30 4. Winby, higher over points and rebounds, 29. Law. Clay, I figured he don't pass the ball to even turn the ball over. Had him for a 5. Laws. Draymond higher than 5.5 rebounds. How the. Draymond hired him five and a half rebounds. How the fuck Draymond Green can't get five rebounds?
Starting point is 01:25:48 Loss. Andrew Winges, I thought he was going to shoot more than 12.5 or 10... Loss. Yeah, he hasn't really been a good... I do my pregame pick-ems, but then I wait until halftime, see how things are feeling. And it's halftime, so they can't keep refreshing it. Let's see what the mood is there. Then I also do one in the fourth quarter. That probably was halftime. I probably took that at halftime, see how things are feeling. And it's halftime, so they can't keep refreshing it. Let's see what the mood is there. Then I'll also do one in the fourth quarter. That probably was halftime.
Starting point is 01:26:07 I probably took that at halftime. That was my halftime. Ooh. That was. Let it be known. Because it was like, yeah, it was. I think it was. So, Harden's higher or lower, 14.5 points tonight on Underdog Fantasy. Download the app. Use promo code GIL. They will match your first deposit
Starting point is 01:26:24 up to $500. I'm still going over.500 so Harden's career high 61 points done it twice one of those came Madison Square Garden January 23rd 2019 well let's keep this thing moving and hit y'all with some hibachi time and shout out to Paula everybody in the back. Always having these things ready to go. Can we get some hibachi to come in here and cook one day? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to get like-
Starting point is 01:26:50 Y'all want some hibachi time? Yeah, have them come grill it up. I bet. Give us some fried rice. I bet. And some noodles. I bet garlic fried rice. Get that on the what's her name?
Starting point is 01:26:59 Y'all think Gil playing. Whatever we ask for. For the 100th episode. Yeah, for the 100th episode, we should do a hibachi group. Okay, hibachi time. We should go. Hibachi 100 party. Get the DJ.
Starting point is 01:27:10 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Got you. Bring your friends. Bring your teammates. The two of them that are still here. The two that are still here. We need some sabado.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Oh, yeah. You got to go overseas. Overseas or home. Yeah. So, we got to talk about My favorite Franco-jurafrican Victor Wimby Nama when was easily the highlight of last week He had his first statement game dropping a 38 piece on KD and the Suns. Let's take a look at some of those Highlight, that's a big boy, man
Starting point is 01:27:45 Hey, that looks crazy, bro. That looks nice. Let at that right there. Oh, that's a basketball play. It's so wild seeing dudes over seven feet with coordination. Pass it, they jump, then boom. Spins like that. I think they realize they can just throw the ball up. You're going to get it every time. I think they just realize they can just throw the ball up. I need to see Wim be in the dunk contest just to crack up.
Starting point is 01:28:05 That was tough. Crazy. That was tough. Just flat foot dunk, get a 50. So Wimby joined LeBron and KD as the third teenager in NBA history with 35-plus points, 10-plus rebounds, and 2-plus blocks in the game. And 38 points is the third most for a rookie in Spurs history, trailing only David Robinson.
Starting point is 01:28:23 He dropped 41 and 39 his rookie season. And Wimby and the Admiral are also the in Spurs history, trailing only David Robinson. He dropped 41-39 his rookie season. And Wimby and the Admiral are also the only Spurs rookies with over 100-plus points in their first five games. So KD had this to say about comparisons between him and Wimby. I see, yeah, I don't see anybody else in this game. I mean, I know we're both skinny, and I'm sure he said he watched me growing up, but he's his own player. I don't think he – I'm sure he watched so many great players in the league
Starting point is 01:28:51 and tried to emulate just about everybody. You could tell in his enthusiasm for the game. You know, you could tell that through the TV and playing against him. So he's his own player, person. gonna create his own lane. It's much different than anybody who's ever played and you can try to compare but he's gonna carve out his own lane. That's some high praise from a future Hall of Famer in Kevin Durant. So what statement did Wimby make dropping 38 on KD and the Suns? Why don't say KD and the Suns? Don't say KD and the Suns.
Starting point is 01:29:26 Don't do that. Just say the sorry-ass Suns. KD was there. I know, but KD, he's doing his thing. He's holding the team up until his players get raided in. Okay. He had 40-something yesterdays. I know.
Starting point is 01:29:38 He's getting some unwarranted criticism. That's not the matchup either that we wanted. Do you think they only compare him to KD because he's tall and skinny? Yeah. Y'all do everything but answer these questions that we spend so much time
Starting point is 01:29:52 and energy after putting together. He said he was like, y'all compare him to me because we both skinny. They really don't play like that much. And Lanky,
Starting point is 01:30:00 what was your question? What statement did Wimby make dropping 38 points against the Phoenix Suns that have Kevin Durant on the roster? Don't compare me to Bobo. I mean him scoring 38 against any team is going to be great. I mean it's a rookie scoring 38 points. I mean this is not like the Phoenix Suns of all three studs, and they're supposed to be some potential, you know, this is one team versus another team with one good player, one good player.
Starting point is 01:30:30 I mean, at this point, I'm pretty sure Spurs was better. I'm 100% Spurs is better. What team doesn't have to hoop on to be, like, stamped? When 38 will make you, like, Giannis and B, who you got to give 38 to? Who's got to? Like, dropping 38 on the Lakers or 40 in L.A. against the Lakers is like, you know, because, or going to the Knicks. Going to the Knicks. Because it's like, where are you going to?
Starting point is 01:30:59 I mean, at this point, just. Just who? You're just scoring. You score 30, you score 40. You know, Matt, at this point, whatever team he scores 40 or 50 on, that's the team. But just the 38, we talked a lot about it. It wouldn't be all summer. Summer league.
Starting point is 01:31:15 But to be able to do that and get that validation in the league is one thing. Hey, killing summer league is one thing to project what he's going to be able to do, how good he's going to be. Not actually go out there doing yes that you know the Suns are depleted but 38 is still 38 it is I mean I had 55 and three-quarters my rookie year so I mean we'll see hey be honest yes that's not impressive to you this is I'm not impressed I'm not impressed with the 38. I had 55 and three. This is a hot take. This is a hot take.
Starting point is 01:31:49 Is he the player, because he is the age, to do it? To go after the scoring title? Ooh. With the single game? All time. All time. Is this the player that chases LeBron? We've talked about that.
Starting point is 01:32:08 He's young enough. He's young enough. I don't think structurally he can last. He can last just in bones. You got to holler at Kareem. I'm just saying in bones and his height, he might be looking like dirt towards the end of his career versus how LeBron's
Starting point is 01:32:25 looking. But that's a good question though because he has the potential. Use in the advantage he has to the point where he can technically just sit in the lane, throw the ball up and just jump and then just... He can wilt it. He is wilt. The advantage Wilt had over everybody, just throw the ball as high as you can, he'll go up there and catch it and just...
Starting point is 01:32:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he knows what he's up against too. And he can shoot the three. He can shoot the free throw. Is he going to shoot enough threes to catch LeBron? Over LeBron? Yeah, early. Because LeBron takes a lot of...
Starting point is 01:32:58 LeBron didn't shoot a lot of threes. He's early. The thing with Wimby is I don't think he's going to get fouled enough. Because the point is, no one can challenge him to the point where it's like, you're going to be doing a lot of, but you're doing a lot of and ones. But can he take enough threes? Can, like, the threes be his sky hook? Because eight, bro, I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 01:33:17 No, no. But just the ability to. No, motherfucker, the layup is his sky hook. But I'm just saying, from a point scoring standpoint. Did you see how small he made Kevin Durant look? I get it. At the fifth of the line? So like, if he just runs down the lane and they throw it up,
Starting point is 01:33:31 if they throw it at the rim, it's a lob every time. But you think if he lasts the 20 years and he doesn't take as many threes, he can still catch Bron? That's what I'm saying from a point scoring standpoint. It depends on how far he goes in the playoffs. They're not going to...
Starting point is 01:33:46 They're not going very far. Braun went eight straight years. Right. Braun went eight straight years. I just don't think anybody can catch Braun just because of his body of work. No, what I'm saying is just think about his advantage, right?
Starting point is 01:33:58 When they threw lobs to him, there's really no one. Like, everyone's coming to, like, what? Here? So he can... Yeah. No, he does have the potential. I mean, listen.
Starting point is 01:34:15 He definitely has a chance, though. I don't think, like, even with Luka, I don't think Luka 20 years can play the same way he's playing. Like, he doesn't. Like, he's slow now. You only get slower. Right? Like, LeBron is still faster than 98% of the NBA.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Yeah, right. Which is fucking impressive. So, worst case scenario, when he goes downhill, he still has an advantage over everybody. So, he would need to score how many his first five years? Well 82 games how many points he would need that to get to he scores about what 20 so he's averaging this season 20.5 which I think is in line with LeBron averages rookie year but he averaged 30 these next five years you can see a world almost or whatever something like that we don't want to get ahead of ourselves. You're going to have to score a lot in the regular season. Yes, but one thing LeBron left open was games.
Starting point is 01:35:10 LeBron should have had the record three, four years ago. But he 40-something games, 50 games, 55 games. He left years open for someone to really come in. If Wimby or any player
Starting point is 01:35:26 has Jordan-like years where it's 82, 82, 81, 82, 81, he has one of those still playing high level, he could. Who's the closest to Brown right now that's playing? I think Luka. Yeah, Luka. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:35:41 And even looking at Luka, it's not even close. I mean, the production you have to put out for the next 10 to 12 years to even start to get in the conversation. Yeah, Luka was what, three? He was like 3,100 points behind LeBron at the same. Because of them playoffs.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Yeah. That's what I'm saying, the playoffs. Them playoffs. The playoffs with Bron. Wow. Eight straight years. I mean, you see a world with Wimby. Obviously, we don't want to look too far down the road,
Starting point is 01:36:05 but you're talking about a guy who's going to get bigger, stronger, get his body tougher. That's our scoring record just to know. Say what? Playoffs don't count.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Yeah, yeah. No. Wait, what? Cumulative. No, it doesn't. Playoffs don't count towards the scoring record? So LeBron set the
Starting point is 01:36:16 regular season record. He passed Kareem a while ago with the combined. Combined? Oh, so the last year that was just regular season. Yeah, that Thunder game was just regular season.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Oh, so he could catch him for sure then. That's what I said. He could, but LeBron is still mind... The problem is LeBron is still mindful of how Kareem and Jordan failed to the point where you missed the whole season. You went on vacation because you was the best player in the world.
Starting point is 01:36:39 No, no, no. I'm going to still keep playing for another 5, 6, 0. I'm going to put this motherfucker so high. No. Only person that can beat high. No, that's it. Only person that can beat it is me, reincarnated. LeBron need to be an asshole and play for Wimby's whole career. Just so he can't catch him. At the end of the day, why wouldn't he?
Starting point is 01:36:58 He just play a few minutes every game. You're smarter now. You're understanding that you broke a record. That means it's breakable. So now I'm playing I'm still playing to win, but I'm playing for someone to never, ever, ever
Starting point is 01:37:14 break it. Like me, I'm playing to come into the game, LeBron James, and I'm in there walking like, hey. Pass it down to the post. If I can score those two points, there's two more points added to this record. I'm sorry. You had to kick me out.
Starting point is 01:37:34 We canceled the NBA, Brian. It was over. You can't play no more. But, I mean, you look at Wimby averaging close to 21 points per game this season. Like I said, he's going to get bigger. He's going to get stronger. It's crazy because you look, if you can add 20, 30, 40 pounds, you can almost have a build.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Not quite at Giannis' level, but with the fluidity and the jumper, it's scary to really think about what these next couple years can look like for the dude if he stays healthy and stays on the right track. Like, high 30 points per game, I don't feel like it's far-fetched. He's just getting his feel. I mean, he's just getting his feel on. Like, you know, like, from the last game we've seen to his first game, two different players. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Yeah. Two different players. Like, he's adjusting fast. Like, he's in the post more. He's going to the basket a lot more. He's ducking in. He's doing a lot of things that, you know. That's because he's been a pro for so long. He's already been a pro.
Starting point is 01:38:27 He's been a pro for how long? Like two or three years already? So it's like, that's like when Rookie Rubio first came in. They have the advantage because they've already been through this. So yeah, the adjustments are going to come early because the space is wider, the players are better, faster, but they're going to catch on easy. I mean, this is nothing like playing in Europe for them, for him. Yeah, it's going to be exciting. I love his game.
Starting point is 01:38:56 Even watching his little warm-up video that they put of him dribbling with two balls, I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, I never learned how to dribble with two balls. No? I couldn't play with them, so. I didn't want to perfect the two-ball thing when I'm just the one ball. You don't think it's helpful? That's why he was getting ripped.
Starting point is 01:39:09 I never got ripped. Not that much. I feel like some two-ball jibber-jabbers are helpful. My turn-up was game because I tried to pass the ball, something that I just didn't. It was second nature. So, Randy, you mentioned the 55-point game. 55-point game, seven games in your rookie season.
Starting point is 01:39:33 But the game before that, you dropped 32. And now you know who that was against? Chauncey Billups and Kenyon Martin and them. On the Nuggets. Yeah. Gil, you dropped 32 on the Clippers. Jeff McGinnis. You know my first game coming out?
Starting point is 01:39:47 I had 17, 9, and 9. I was assist and a rebound away. And Dan Zergarik, I dropped it off to him a lot. He missed the dunk and then came back down and took my rebound. Dang. I said, get up. That's the type of shit that gets somebody slapped down the road. Your second and third game, you had 24 versus the Pistons, 25 versus the Bulls.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Lexi, your second season in the W, you dropped 21 on the Aces. So, Gil, I want to start with you and Brandon first. What's it feel like dropping your first 30-piece in the league? I mean, just the confidence of just, you know, just being in that NBA mode, right? You know, it was against the Clippers. Antoine and Jeff McGinnis was teammates, North Carolina. Antoine was like, yo, get him, get him, Gil. Get him, Gil. He was like, yeah, my young boy going to get you.
Starting point is 01:40:32 So me and Jeff was actually going at it. I was just way faster than him. It was one of those things, back then they were trying to pick up full court. Back then, there was no one-on-one. There was no guards that's sitting there trying to go coast to coast the whole game so he really didn't know what the fuck was going on and he was just you know he was a midi guy he had a great midi yeah i think for me i think it was just the build-up like of it all when i before i scored my 30 like you know i came from europe didn't play didn't know if i was gonna start um you know
Starting point is 01:41:04 having a 24 against detroit home opener 25 against D Rose and then having a 32 and 9 against Chauncey Billups it was like you know that was because Denver was good back there and like they were there at the Western Conference they had just came from the Western Conference so to go against guys like that early like that was you know was everything was a lot of confidence and it just showed a lot of confidence that scouts had in me. And then right after that, you know, playing against Golden State and Monte Ellis, like, you know, the way they played, you know, it was up and down.
Starting point is 01:41:31 So, you know, them first couple 15 games were good for me. So, 87 in that two-game span, what are you thinking about the league after that 55-point game coming off the 30? Did you think, oh, this shit's going to go on forever? I'm averaging 40. I mean, you're still a kid, so it's it's like you know you're still on a budget you know you ain't got that contract you know under arm range ain't spending it ain't spending it or doing nothing like that crazy i went to denny's the next day and then had to watch film so it was like nothing i didn't have no time to enjoy it or anything because scouts wouldn't you know scouts
Starting point is 01:42:01 wouldn't you know let me okay was he hating or, I mean, was it? No, just more just, he just always wanted me to be in tune and understand, like, you know, we still got 80, we still got so many games left. Like, we ended up making the playoffs. We were, like, fifth or sixth in the seed.
Starting point is 01:42:17 We ain't made the playoffs in eight years, so I had no time to, like, celebrate, like, anything. Was that the Stackhouse National Anthem year? Yeah, Stackhouse, Kirk Thomas, thomas um bogut shit shit yeah nice little event team yeah if bogut don't get hurt break his arm that year we get past atlanta unless you obviously w different shorter game same different 20s 20 20 is 30 in the w i wish we had 12-minute quarters. 20 is 35, right? I don't know why we won't play longer games.
Starting point is 01:42:51 The league is too talented now to just keep playing 40 minutes. Maybe I just don't have enough wind. I don't know. I don't know. You think you should have enough wind? I've always thought that. I think you can increase rosters, play the games longer, that's more commercial, more bread for the league.
Starting point is 01:43:08 I just feel like, I mean, people don't realize how long that is. Eight minutes is a long time. So what did that 21, though, just do for you for your confidence in showing that you belonged in the league? Yeah, I mean, I went from not playing at all my first year to being, like, the first person off the bench my second year and getting play calls things like that like it changes your confidence but I mean my second year was like up and down like I would have like a game like that and then the next game like I
Starting point is 01:43:33 wouldn't play or I play like five minutes so it was like still an up and down season but um you know I had Simone Augustus on my team that year, and she was, you know, battling injuries. So I just had her in my ear the whole season, and that, like, was so important to me. You know, she's probably one of the better scorers in WNBA history. I think she's extremely underrated, and her role on that Lynx Dynasty team, I mean, after Maya, it was Simone, I think. Some people would put Syl, but I put Simone. But just having her in my ear and keeping me confident and locked in with the up and down of that season was great. But, yeah, my second year was good for me.
Starting point is 01:44:14 I think that year I showed that I was one of the better shooters in the league. And, I mean, I feel like I'm the best shooter in the league, but I'll get invited to the three-point contest one of these years. We got a guild shootout. You can test your luck there. You know she going to come in last. You know she going to come in last. I can't wait to hide away.
Starting point is 01:44:33 You know she coming in last. They need to bump it up to a million. Perky and McKint. I'm going to take over Shia's crown. Bump it up to a million. I can win. Give me that million. I ain't going to win. Give me that million. You need that bread recooked, girl?
Starting point is 01:44:50 I know y'all didn't catch that at home. I lost energy. So I'm sure y'all are all feeling good after the 30-piece. Let's talk about a team who's not feeling so good right now. It's getting scary for the Grizzlies without Ja Morant. Seven games into Morant's 25-game suspension, Grizzlies finally got their first win Sunday night against the Blazers. So John will only be able to play a maximum of 57 games this season,
Starting point is 01:45:13 and there's no guarantee he'll be available for all of those 57. Gil, start with you. We talked about this earlier in the show. Will the Grizzlies make the playoffs this season? No. Why would you want to? Because you start off one and five? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:35 It's not over yet. We're not even playing. You've seen that roster, brother? Right? You've seen that roster? We thought they were good. It was just John Moran, right? I mean, do people even go to the game still?
Starting point is 01:45:47 Are they playing in the bubble or are they playing in the real arena? No, I mean. No one watches. We can't go to Detroit. Can we at least go to Memphis? No, no, no. What I'm saying is, like, it's Ja. Like, that's all we care about.
Starting point is 01:45:58 They should be, right now, instead of, instead of, like, going to the game, they should just petition outside and just say, we won't job back. We won't job back. And let the NBA, like you know how they was petitioning to suspend them? All the fans now stand outside the arena and say, we ain't going in there until 12 is back. Right? And then Adam Silver will be like, god damn it. And then they'll make up some new rule. And then boom, John John Grant be back by Monday
Starting point is 01:46:26 Why we need to go to Memphis? You never know what I'm saying, I'm gonna kill my Luther King there we ain't going there No, that's another story and they turned the hotel to a museum I respect the museum, but it's a little you do the whole tour then you go to the gift shop I'm just saying this is one man. That's on that team that made the team relevant. Other than that, like... Good luck. We got Tillman, but he ain't playing right now.
Starting point is 01:46:51 So since he ain't playing and John Renn ain't playing, we good. Good luck. And then they got rid of Dylan Brooks. All entertainment's gone. They don't want to play Derrick Rose. And then damn sure they ain't playing Junior Lofton. Like, what the... Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:04 What does he have to do to get on the court? Yeah I don't know why they not playing him. I don't know why they not playing him. Like what are y'all doing? Like we don't need a... He's like Cam Thomas. Like Cam Thomas proved that he's not a bench player. Baby Sam Perkins. Lofton has proven that he's not a... Put him in the game already. That's baby Sam, baby Zach. That's Sam Perkins, Zach Reddick. He played their last game. He done broke rookie records and he's only just got like... Yeah, they should be having
Starting point is 01:47:29 him in the G League and all that. They put him in the G League, he broke G League records. As soon as they put him in a game and they got to play him, he's done broke rookie records. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:36 I don't know why they not play him. It's blasphemy. Gil Grizzlies currently ranked 27th in average attendance this season. Damn. So a fan said...
Starting point is 01:47:43 Hey, 27th. 27th. I'll come back. This show... They're 27th in average attendance this season damn so fans said damage This shows what now 27th and attendance yeah That's mad. I'm telling you if I'm more than last year They're gonna hover in those 20s a lot dumb baby was top because they have a smaller arena than other because job Rent is not dear. That's what I'm saying though if you If you fill a smaller arena, you're still filling the arena, but the attendance is still lower than the other. No, they got an NBA arena, 20-something thousand. I just hope Ja Morant understands his value now.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Oh, no, he does. I hope he really understands his value. I mean, I feel like he going to come back. They can't tell him shit. They can't tell him shit. That's what I'm saying. It makes it worse for me now because I'm at home like, y'all need me.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Oh, God. Don't give him that part. Y'all need this. Y'all need this to sell out the arena. I'm walking in with all swag. Hey, how do you feel about the suspension? Just throw the ball up. I'm cocky now.
Starting point is 01:48:37 I'm worse. I'm worse. Like, you, I'm worse. Let them be when I get back two and 23. Oh, my God. What you telling that boy? Nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:48:49 And then we go to five-game winning streak. Nothing. Right. Yeah. Which is... Which is crazy because he's not even
Starting point is 01:48:56 that type of person that needs, like, to be an asshole. He's not an asshole. No, he's not an asshole. But now they're about to be rated. They're trying to make an example out of him
Starting point is 01:49:03 and now I feel like they... They're about to create an example. They overval make an example out of him, and now I feel like they overvalued the team because they went on that little streak, whatever that streak was, without him. Like, oh, we good without y'all, dah, dah, dah. And I think that blurred their vision about what type of team they had. They let Dylan Brooks go. There was definitely that narrative. This is when Tupac got out of jail and Suge came and got him. Yep.
Starting point is 01:49:20 This is what this is. This is what this moment is. When Suge went and got Tupac out of jail. Took him to El Pollo Loco. Me! Back, back, right to the studio. Back. This is what this is. This is what this moment is. When Suge went and got Tupac out of jail. Take him to El Pollo Loco. Take him to me. Right to the studio. Bat. Take him to El Pollo Loco and to the studio.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Bat. California love. I got this, this, this. But that's what I'm saying. It's one of those things. The city's going to be on fire the day he. Oh, his first game back is going to be. If I'm the owner, I'm petitioning, man.
Starting point is 01:49:42 Like, no. I got my team, sorry. The attendance is bad. Ja is practicing every day. Like, we see what he's doing. So you don't have him come back? Huh? You said don't have him come back at all?
Starting point is 01:49:58 No, I'm going to have him come back, but I'm not trying to win. I want a lottery pick now. You done showed me what my team looked like without Ja. So I need a team Ja with somebody else, too. So what if they get it together? That's what I'm saying. It's only one and five. What if they come back and they're what, like 16 and nine? I see. We were five and 23 in Detroit, and we was two games out of the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:50:18 What I'm saying is when I got hurt. What does the record have to be when Ja gets back for them to be like, fuck it? It just depends. I'm saying it fucking now because I see what they look like without him. So what they look like without him is what scares me. Right? So it lets me know I'm not as... See?
Starting point is 01:50:32 Not as good as I thought. I'm not as good as I thought I was. I thought that without him, we was decent. Okay. Then we add him, puts us over the top. Right. Realizing without him, we are actually not that good. Right? We're not that good. Right?
Starting point is 01:50:45 We're not that good without them. So, you know, like, all right, we're going to get through the rest of the season. Y'all do your thing. And then we get like top five pick, top six pick, get another player we can hire. Now you two are the cornerstone of going forward. This is how sorry defensive players are when they're just defensive players. Like no one understands the concept of it's team oriented. They have two defensive players on that team, right?
Starting point is 01:51:11 Defensive players of the year on the same team, which would think that this would be a lockdown defensive team. Do you know what they rank? Not top 15, I can tell you that. What, 20, what, 2, 3, 20-something? So defense don't matter no more. No, it does, but... No, what I'm saying is you got two defensive players on a year on the same team.
Starting point is 01:51:36 But when you have your best offensive player... You can't get a bucket. But you've got to lock down. Right? You've got to lock down. So obviously they're not capable of it because that defensive rating is not what they think it is. I know you're waiting for it to see if I'm wrong. You don't know.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Of course not. Even if you are, you signed my check, so I just nod after the show, let you know, yeah, you fucked up. But obviously Grizzlies missing job. But let's talk about another player that the team appears to be missing. Despite how last season ended, Dylan Brooks was a leader in the Grizzlies locker room,
Starting point is 01:52:13 had a huge impact on the team on and off the court. They let him dip to the Rockets in free agency. And it's obvious there is a void without him on the roster. And just that whole situation, man. Like, you you know they basically just shit all over him before weird now dylan brooks averaging 18 points a game shooting 60 from the field 60 from three 93 from the free throw line how much are the grizzlies missing dylan brooks right now a lot
Starting point is 01:52:40 yeah as much as they think he's a clown and all that corniness, he would have still been out there playing hard, doing what he had to do just to make it... Like, he's not going, you know... As I said, everything Dylan Brooks did was exactly what he was supposed to do. The one thing he didn't do to really just stamp who he was for the team was when he didn't want to do interviews and he ran.
Starting point is 01:53:08 Yeah. Instead of just taking it on the chin, hey, you know. Right. He is who he is, but I guarantee he won't do it again. Right, right. And he'll do it again. I guarantee he won't do it again. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:53:18 Yeah. Now, that backing would have just been like, all right, he don't back down from nothing. Right. It kind of like gave the indication that he wasn't really what he said he was. Like he don't stand on business. Yeah. He don't stand on business. He don't stand on business.
Starting point is 01:53:33 You know, but I'm like, Dylan Brooks right now should show everybody in the NBA there's room for improvement. So when y'all looking around saying, yeah, my player don't do that, like he was a liability offensively last year. Couldn't shoot, everybody making fun of him. He had the booty shorts on in the arena, he couldn't make a shot, right?
Starting point is 01:53:55 Now he's a shooter, which means he went into the summer with the plan in mind and he executed it. Better at the free throw line, better three point shooter. I mean, it's showing that you spend a whole summer and you dedicate your summer to trying to improve your skill. It happens. So when I sit there and say, I don't know what he's doing in the summer on his individual skill,
Starting point is 01:54:23 I have, look at Dylan Brooks. He couldn't shoot for shit last year. Look at him now. He spent the whole summer working on that shot, working on his offensive skill and his shooting ability, and he's displaying it in real time. So if you want to post a move, as soon as the season's over, we just work on it the whole summer.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Not two weeks before training, the whole summer. Working on it the whole summer. Not two weeks before training, the whole summer. Working on the moves all summer. Four or five months. And we was... The thing is, Dylan Brooks might be in another deal. Like somewhere, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:55:00 a contender or something. Because this ain't it. Like, Houston, you know, you got paid. He signed 90. 84 for 84, somewhere around there. I think 4 for it. Like, Houston, you know, that's just a stump. You know, you got paid. He signed 90. 80? Four for 84, somewhere around there. I think four for 84.
Starting point is 01:55:08 Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, this is like, okay, I'm going to go get this money. His next is going to be about 150. That's what I'm saying. These next two years
Starting point is 01:55:13 after this, we'll get him a contender. Don't let him get a player of the year award. If you ride it out in Houston, though. He's going to be a hot commodity.
Starting point is 01:55:20 Like, he's going to flip I don't think he has a team. I don't think he has a team to win a defensive player race. Yeah, four for 86. After two years, get up out of there. Ain't he playing better offensively? Right.
Starting point is 01:55:32 Come to the Lakers. For sure. For sure. For sure. No, for sure. Seriously. But you said Grizzlies were in the 20s, I believe. Their defensive efficiency, their 18th.
Starting point is 01:55:44 Okay. They were second last season. Oh, well, that's a big drop off. Yeah. 18 to 2. I was wrong, but I was close. Yeah, we round it. We round it.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Yeah, we're going to round it. It was probably in the 20s before they won this last game. I'll be on my basketball, but I'd be knowing. So you say, just fucking throw in the towel, try to get a lottery pick. As long as the NBA's
Starting point is 01:56:13 rewarding losing, I would be the smartest fucking loser, man. I'm telling you, I would be the smartest loser. I would sit there, I got Wimby this year, Wimby do what you do,
Starting point is 01:56:23 and then everybody we're going to lose, and then get... Think about Spurs. I got Wimby this year, Wimby, do what you do, and then everybody, we're going to lose, and then get... Think about Spurs. I got Wimby, right? I don't know who's supposed to be the number one pick in this draft, but if I lose, if I'm Spurs and we lose, I can get a top three, four, five pick, right? Get them playing together, lose again, and then now the next draft,
Starting point is 01:56:42 that next draft would be Cooper Flagg. Aren't there rules against doing this? Co-opete? No. Cooper going to Boston. I'm saying co-opete and Boozer. Now I got Wimby, one of them three, and whoever I get this year. Now we can win.
Starting point is 01:57:02 I got three core players that I can really build. No, that's what I said. No, there's nothing. You get rewarded for doing this. But the way the CBA is structured now, it's almost to your benefit because you want guys on cheaper contracts. I read through all this stuff, man.
Starting point is 01:57:19 That's why you have a show. Give us a read. That's why I said you got to pin a lot. Don't I show y'all the holes inside the systems? I show y'all the holes inside the systems, man. I sit there paying attention to this shit. You know, like, what would Waldo do? What would Gilbert do?
Starting point is 01:57:42 What would Jesus do? No, we got to get a book. What would Gilbert do? What would Gilbert do? An inside look at the game. What would Gilbert do? We got Jesus do? No, we got to get a book. What would Gilbert do? What would Gilbert do? An inside look at the NBA TVA. What would Gilbert do? We got to find Gilbert in the arena. In different arenas. We need to manipulate shit.
Starting point is 01:57:52 The NBA TVA. Yeah. We need to do the Gilbert's Arena Rookie Symposium in Vegas. Underdog, you can go ahead and take that. The only arena with flares in them. Flares will be happening. For sure. Nobody, Halloween? Halloween in D.C., you know everyone wore'll be having. Oh, for sure. Nobody, Halloween?
Starting point is 01:58:06 Halloween in D.C., you know everyone wore masks? Yeah. Give it to Renus' mask. No, I have 22,000 masks. And everybody wore my face. But they don't have nobody like me in the NBA, man.
Starting point is 01:58:20 Do a Gillian Man March. TV games. Listen, TV games. All the Renus's Agent Zero shirts. So white out. We playing LeBron James. The Papa John's? Papa John's, Crybaby James, sorry LeBron, it's playoffs.
Starting point is 01:58:36 That was me! Crybaby James, that was me, 23. I wasn't playing so I had a lot of time to think. Oh man. It's fun man, you gotta... I would wasn't playing, so I had a lot of time to think. Oh, man. It's fun, man. You got to... I would love to see you in charge of a team. I got to.
Starting point is 01:58:49 It's fun. For one year. I would hate to see Gil with a billion dollars. You know how he would act? Just run with a team for one season. Like the Sims. My team would be the most watched... What?
Starting point is 01:58:59 Like the Sims, but for... Like your parties. Free? Like your parties would be crazy. Free. Free. You come to the game. It's free. Free?
Starting point is 01:59:06 First of all, all the fans gotta be outside the arena when the bus pull up. College style. That's what I'm saying. You try to make this like college game. College style. And then as soon as they get in, open it up, and then they can just hear all the trampling coming through. That's some scary shit, boy.
Starting point is 01:59:30 I feel like you would make the environment and mix it like college and overseas. Yeah, college and overseas. With the flags and the horns. You make people want to come to the game. It becomes this event. When you look at overseas culture, it's life. Those games are so fun. It's life. I don't want celebrity.
Starting point is 01:59:44 You a celebrity, you got to be a real fan to come to the arena. No, for sure. Because, you know. And that's how it is overseas. Like, nobody cares about who's at the game overseas. No. It's like everybody in here. Everybody.
Starting point is 01:59:55 Everybody. Throwing shit on the court. Lighting flares. Lighting flares. Like, you might get stumped outside. What happened tonight? We get ready to lose the game. Lights off.
Starting point is 02:00:04 Boom. Lights off. Off. Lights off. Off. Ain't no L's. We take no losses. This is going to have to be a forfeited game. Forfeited game. Lights off. Have you tried to get in anybody's front office before?
Starting point is 02:00:19 You think they've... I mean, I'm wondering. If a team was like, yo, come be the front of this... My first question is, what you trying to do? You trying to have... You trying to make money? You trying to have an environment?
Starting point is 02:00:32 Like, what you trying... You want... Like, I'm the type of dude that everything I do is illegal. It's legal, but illegal. And I'm trying to figure out how... How we can sign players under the table. Clothing, Right? I'm trying to figure out how we can sign players under the table, clothing, stuff. Like I'm trying to, hey, corporations, build some corporations.
Starting point is 02:00:50 Mm-hmm. Right? You can funnel money this way. That, I don't, yeah. Or are you interested in college now? I don't have to- Teach me, huh? Good. Are you interested in college now, though?
Starting point is 02:00:58 Because now it's NIO. Yeah, I'm the dude that- Like a real creative- I'm like coach K create a position for you in a car I'm like I'm like coach K. I got every number one player in the country on my back Arizona do that I was like yo, here's the position just for you I'm like I'm like you gonna have to put me somewhere. Nobody's paying attention How he keep getting the number one pixel? They 48 and 0. You got to pull the D out.
Starting point is 02:01:27 But I mean, that's what I said. It's like you have to build environments. You have to build the foundation of success. It's not about today. It's about 10 years from now. If you're an owner, this means this is your team. This is your legacy forever. So making a dollar today versus... versus yeah it's not the same no like i want to build this i want to build up this
Starting point is 02:01:52 for it to be sold for 20 billion dollars is the only way you do that is to build the structure to build the fan base to build like, like, when there's a game, everybody wants to come. It's the event. It's the club. Like, I want the club. I want to shut down clubs. Like, if I'm in Los Angeles,
Starting point is 02:02:16 I don't want you to leave here. Y'all leaving because y'all want to go to the clubs. No, the clubs is here. I got international club. I got hip-hop club in the arena. I got this. This is where it's at. I don't want y'all to is here. I got international club. I got hip-hop club in the arena. I got this. This is where it's at.
Starting point is 02:02:28 I don't want y'all to leave here. Once you in, you win. Once you in, you win. I'm trying to keep you in. I don't want you to leave here to go to Zanzibar or go to the gate.
Starting point is 02:02:35 No, no, no. The gate's here. Yeah. I like that. Yeah, so when you buy a ticket, that's like you're When you buy a ticket, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:41 Bring the forum club back. What about, what are you going to do about the kids? We got daycare. We're going to have daycare down there to send your fucking kids home. Would you have like an adult only game? No kids this game.
Starting point is 02:02:55 You don't look like that. I'm just trying to think of a sport, a sport without kids, how that would be. Like, insane. They can build a water park down in the company. I mean, it's all type of things. Think about it. The evolution of, what I'm saying is the evolution of arenas. Like, you're talking about there's money coming in.
Starting point is 02:03:20 Eight billion. These guys are rich where you can build a hotel attached to the arena. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I Mean it's like it is part of the arena where and I mean people can get drunk go right upstairs to the room Like you know, like and I mean there's like hotels in the airport They're like attach you go right from your room to the gate for sure. That's gonna be the evolution of arenas where you have rooms attached to it. It's basically like downtown. They're just the richest.
Starting point is 02:03:48 I bet you Vegas is not the worst. It's just right there, but yeah. If you can go from your room right to the game. If we got the Blue Jays, right, I think in baseball
Starting point is 02:03:55 got the hotel connected to the... Yeah, yeah, yeah. That shit is wild. Yeah, I mean, you got to... Close the window curtains. Whatever you got. Basically what LA Life is.
Starting point is 02:04:03 You have room views, which is... LA Life has everything. For kids, like they have their own separate arena. You got the hotels. You have room views. LA Life has everything for kids. They have their own separate arena. You got the hotels. You got restaurants. That's basically what... All together.
Starting point is 02:04:12 Because what I'm saying now, that stops traffic. You keep the traffic away. People can just get rooms for the night and come down. You can really... Man, you're giving out billion dollar ideas.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Billion dollar ideas. You know somebody can take it and try to... Bro, give us some... Do the Gil's Arena Rookie Symposium, please. I'm going to tell y'all... Let them know
Starting point is 02:04:32 where it come from, Gil. Always let them know where it come from. That little notepad is hilarious. It is. It ain't nothing on there. With a pencil.
Starting point is 02:04:39 No, they say you have genius... They have genius things going through your mind every day. And what I do is like when I'm just sitting there driving, I keep it, and something comes, I just jot it down. Remember when Malcolm X, he said it, never write nothing down.
Starting point is 02:04:50 For real? And Malcolm X, remember when Malcolm X went to the bar? He said, never write nothing down, keep it here. Yeah, that's not how life works. All right. I want you to get an eraser for yourself. When Malcolm X had a sidekick. No, just, like, little things like this,
Starting point is 02:05:04 I'll just write it down, concepts, like, little things like this. I'll just write it down, concepts, like, you know, things. And I just write it, I just write them down all day. So like, you know, when I'm not doing anything, I just, I got lit through, oh, shit, I remember that.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Oh, then I can, you know, build on it, build on it and build on it. Book about to come up, Missy. Like the Sports Almanac. I'm writing that down because I don't want them to know. No paper tracing. What if you forget? What I'm saying, but you'll be surprised.'t want them to know. No paper trace. What if you forget?
Starting point is 02:05:25 What I'm saying, but you'll be surprised. Think about, like, because you're creative, too. Like, if you just sat there with it and you thought of something, because 10 minutes from now, you won't remember what you thought. Yeah, it's going to be gone. Yeah, even after this. Like, I won't even remember what I said unless I go back in. Or write it in code.
Starting point is 02:05:38 Yeah, so I just write down, just. That'd be funny, like, two days later now. We'd be like, man, we talked about whatever on Monday. I don't remember shit from that show. But now let's move on to our last segment of the day, Mostly Fans. Oh, yeah. Presented by Underdog Fantasy.
Starting point is 02:05:52 Oh. Oh. Oh, yeah. Hey. You know what time it is. 94.7 The Wave. Remember that? The Wave.
Starting point is 02:05:59 We need Bruh from Boyz II Men to come in and read these questions. Hey, girl. First question comes from Cali Boy Swag. So looking at the landscape of the league, do you think Miami makes a move for Zach Levine or DeMar DeRozan, or is it a wrap this season? I can tell y'all, y'all know it was a wrap when our resident Miami Heat fan host
Starting point is 02:06:26 jumped ship and went to Boston. Sure did. The team he beat last year. Who? You didn't see his announcement? Wait, he's a Boston Celtics fan now? Yeah! No way.
Starting point is 02:06:41 Yeah, he announced it. Oh, God. He was like, I Yeah. Oh, God. After he announced that he was going to Louisville, he was like, I have an announcement, too. Well, we knew that was going to happen.
Starting point is 02:06:51 I knew that was going to happen. I knew he was going to trade teams once the season started because I said, it's going to look kind of dry over there. Okay, man. You was going to laugh
Starting point is 02:06:59 at him all year. All right. Yeah. I went to Boston. He went to Boston. Yeah. Okay. Proudly. See what to Boston. He went to Boston. I don't know. Yeah. Okay. Proudly.
Starting point is 02:07:06 See what he on. It was his original. See, remember, he was Boston and then like somehow when Jimmy Butler was getting all the heat that he somehow became
Starting point is 02:07:15 the Miami Heat fan. The confident coffee. So now there's no more confident coffee. No, no, no. Ain't no confident coffee no more, huh? All right.
Starting point is 02:07:20 I think they should get Zach Levine, though. I think they should get both. I think Zach Levine needs to leave Chicago. I think they should get both. But they don't get Zach Levine to leave Chicago. I think they should get both. I mean, they both have the structure. I mean, DeMar has the structure to be able to go to his team and, you know, I think get along.
Starting point is 02:07:36 And then also Zach. I mean, they're both... They're both still... I mean, they both play well together. Yeah. I just think the system and what Miami... what you got to go through, their structure. I think DeMar is probably too... I mean, Cal Lauer is still there.
Starting point is 02:07:52 I still think he'll be down at this point. Because if you add those two, they still got a chance to compete. Who is Miami getting rid of? Tyler Herro. Tyler Herro, that's it. He's been... Do you think they've been keeping him untouchable for this reason? But if you're Bulls, you already have small guards.
Starting point is 02:08:10 What do you need Tyler Herro for? Well, you got to get one of them. At least one of them. I mean, it probably goes Zach because he's younger, but... You know. Because if I'm DeMar, I'm getting out of Chicago. I'm trying to at least'm getting out of Chicago. I'm trying to at least go to a contender at this point.
Starting point is 02:08:27 At this point. Like, it's... Chicago's rough right now for them. Like, with no Alonzo Ball playing. If I'm Bulls... That's why it's hurting, because they ain't got no play guard. If I'm Bulls, I'm not getting rid of Zach Levine. No? His athleticism at least keeps people in the building.
Starting point is 02:08:47 Younger? Yeah. He's the closest thing that I got to Jordan, and the closest thing that I got to Derrick Rose type of excitement on the break. So I'm, fuck it. If you're that thin. I'm going to tell him, hey, I'm sorry, man. Well, then DeMar.
Starting point is 02:09:02 You're going nowhere. DeMar to Miami is all right. Yeah with him in Jimmy brother Jimmy Butler Like you still got a score that can score or get a bucket the system Okay, I mean Next question comes from underdog username the great hendowski Don't ask my boss key The great hendowski. Yeah, I think like Like Lebowski? The great Hendowski, yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:26 I think like Lebowski. What is the biggest thing we were robbed of as NBA fans? Some options he put. Shaq staying in shape. D-Rose not getting hurt. CP3 to the Lakers with Kobe, et cetera. Ooh, that CP3 to the Lakers. I remember that.
Starting point is 02:09:43 That's crazy. I was literally watching D-Rose highlights a few days ago.. I remember that. That's crazy. I was literally watching D-Rose highlights a few days ago. And I was like... Well, we got robbed. Kobe going to Detroit. Because it would have been
Starting point is 02:09:56 the most craziest trade ever. In news. I think just seeing Kobe in the Detroit jersey. Yeah. Because it was 24 hours away from happening. LeBron James being compared to Michael Jordan.
Starting point is 02:10:12 Six rings. KD. What? What you mean by that? Because LeBron came in with the idea that you have to win early, he never got to actually be selfish so he never got to be James Harden with the 35 Colby with the he never got to be that dude right so he was always trying to win championships
Starting point is 02:10:38 so he never had a team where it's like yo try, try to score 40. The only glimpse we ever seen LeBron James without talent was when Kyrie and Love got hurt in the yards, what, 39, 13? His first couple years in the league, he had no talent. His first couple years, he had no talent. He had player score. He didn't have them teams where he got to really just... But that's not fair to say LeBron had to come in and win when it took Mike seven, eight years
Starting point is 02:11:07 to win his first year. Yeah, but they don't compare that Mike to anybody. They compare the six rings like 90 going forward. Yeah, I know, but LeBron come in and you got to give him seven years. They don't do that.
Starting point is 02:11:17 So why didn't that happen? They don't do that. They stopped... So when MJ won, it was champion and then move forward six championships. They don't talk about the individual dude that saved the NBA. They should.
Starting point is 02:11:33 They should. I think so. Well, they should talk about those years before Mike won. But they don't want to give people that. Because they don't want to create selfishness. That's why they didn't reward Kobe when he did the Mike. So it was basically Mike and winning. This is what winners do. Not, you know,
Starting point is 02:11:50 37, 63, the dude who's doing all this. The Jumpman logo. That wasn't... The Jumpman logo, the one everybody wants. I want to be... That individual they didn't promote as an individual.
Starting point is 02:12:05 So it's always about winning championships. And that's what your legacy is built on. So the only time we really got to see LeBron be selfish is when he averaged 39, 13, and 9. And if he had one, I said it back then. I said the only thing that we're going to always miss and question is LeBron James having a selfish year. So we can see a person damn near score 30 something or 40 points So just go get nothing like it. You know, you got nothing you got nothing. You don't have to win. Just go out there. I Said I said it then that this is he has no talent now. He's forced to actually try to dominate the whole game. I
Starting point is 02:12:42 Said it I said and everybody thought I was like saying, so y'all saying he don't play hard enough? I'm saying that he don't have to play hard to do what he's doing. I played against him three times. So I seen when his engine was high, then I seen his engine when it was low. And that low damn engine was 30-something, 77. I think we will also ride from A rob from AI not winning the championship. AI with no talent. No talent around him.
Starting point is 02:13:16 AI team was sorry as fuck. No, no, for sure. No, for sure. No, for sure. Yeah, yeah, no. AI team, they're like, this team was sorry as shit. But that's a real rivalry, too, that they never put nobody around him. Around A.I. Like, A.I. was never to have...
Starting point is 02:13:31 But I think him just not winning the ring, either beating the Lakers, we got robbed for that. As a young'un, like, for me, like, that was... If A.I. won a ring... That's what I said. It's like, he's like, he top five ever. He's still top five ever to me, but, I mean, he's on my Mount Rushmore. We talked about that. Like, just certain players.
Starting point is 02:13:52 Ooh, Michael Jordan, too. Michael Jordan, too. Retirement, two times. 93 to 95. Just, yeah, retiring. Like, Michael Jordan. Yeah, we got Rafa. Like, somebody would have whispered,
Starting point is 02:14:06 hey, there's going to be a dude named LeBron James that's going to break the scoring record and all this. Do it. Just go. Just go straight out. You know, like, would he have nine straight championships? I think. No, Hakeem never going to smack that ass.
Starting point is 02:14:21 Fuck no. Kareem my ass. Hakeem. Hakeem. With who? That 94? Oh, come on. Stop it. I'm like go smack that ass fuck. No Kareem my ass. Okay, I came With whom that nor 94. Oh come give stop it. They say Clyde would have got that Mike. I'm bringing I got Mike I'm bringing Vernon Maxwell appearing in her game in their big ass They might I think Michael Jordan average 36 24 so I wasn't even close matchup. Hey who stopped? I just, I just know stats like that. Who's stopping Hakeem?
Starting point is 02:14:45 Dennis Rodman! No, for sure. That's a fact. Okay, okay. How about this? No, no, no. Michael Jordan and Hakeem. So we know what Michael Jordan's. Who is the second option? Drexler, Pippen, and then go. Sam Cassell? Kenny Smith? Kenny Smith. I mean, that's BJ our shooters, but I'm just saying they're deep their defense was juggernaut ish There you go three retire and then three more
Starting point is 02:15:14 Listen, that's one thing. I do want to see that Houston versus Chicago It would have been a George Houston said they would have got Mike out of there back to back I said I doubt that in the heart of OJ. I mean, they had bodies. They beating the Bulls back to back. Me watching, like, Hakeem was really an X factor, like scoring wise and defensively wise, but it's the 2-3-4 that was, you're talking about two-D? That's true. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:15:46 They wouldn't have had Dennis Rodman at the time. Yeah, that's the other thing. And that could be because they didn't have Dennis until... But Mike's still just Mike, though. Bill Winnington? That's what I said. Maybe because they didn't have Dennis. Okay.
Starting point is 02:15:59 And they had, what, Horace Grant? Yeah. The goggles. Yeah. Goggles. Some other moments to consider. LeBron not going to the Knicks in the summer of 2010. Who?
Starting point is 02:16:11 LeBron Ramon James. Kawhi. Ooh. That's a guy. Yeah. Dolan. Dumb. Kawhi doesn't get injured.
Starting point is 02:16:20 2016 Western Conference Finals. OKC Big 3 stays together. Hard to rest KD. CP3's Hamstring not getting cooked. Game 5, 2018. Steve, producer Steve's pick, LeBron versus Kobe in the 2009 Finals. The Magic beat the Cavs in the ECF.
Starting point is 02:16:42 And Barron said, I don't know if this qualifies as Rob, but needed LeBron to finish that dunk on Draymond at the end of Game 7 in 2016. Oh. And Barron said, don't know if this qualifies as Rob, but needed LeBron to finish that dunk on Draymond at the end of game seven in 2016. Oh, yeah, I was there.
Starting point is 02:16:49 You were at that game? I was there. I was there. Yeah, that was on Father's Day. Yeah. It was quiet in that arena. It was quiet. I know a newest one
Starting point is 02:16:56 and B dug in that smoke against Joker. That was Rob. He was robbed. I mean, he would have had 50. That's the problem. He would have had 50., he would have had 50. That's the problem. He would have had 50. And B would have had 50.
Starting point is 02:17:08 We just wanted to see it. We also got robbed if Gilbert and Reina's never got hurt. That's fair. Penny Hardaway. If Gilbert and Reina. Ben and Roy. But if you didn't get hurt, we probably wouldn't be doing this show now, because you're thinking.
Starting point is 02:17:20 That's a fact. That's a fact. He'd be so, he'd be too, he'd be too big. No, I'm not going to. No, you think. No. You need money, money doesn't here we are now Anybody who gets hurt anybody gets hurt like that. It's a robbery. Nah, it depends who though It depends who though like your you was Tommy Rose. Yeah, like yeah, I mean shit
Starting point is 02:17:40 Like if those mean like those guys yeah yeah if y'all don't get hurt Who'll be Roy It would be this Evelyn bias, you know Mike cap Cap bias. That's cap when we know by all the people who say Lynn bias He was a three man that couldn't really dribble like that. I've watched tapes. He was an athlete. Let Lynn Byers' memory be a blessing. He couldn't dribble. He couldn't do nothing. He was a real power forward. Last question. We got a video question. What's up, Jill Zorina's? Quick question. You think Lakers style of basketball could win him a championship? And why Anthony Davis always dribbling up the court instead of passing the ball
Starting point is 02:18:31 when he get the rebound and go post up? He's dribbling up the court like he a guard. He need to get his big ass down there, man. I can't get jiggy with that shit. Wait, what did he say in the first one? He said, do you think the Lakers style of basketball could win a championship and why AD always dribbling the ball off the court instead of passing? The ball posting his big ass up. Where is he at that?
Starting point is 02:18:50 Him the word North North was a northeast. Whatever kind of Sound Sounded like he Wano he's telling you in Toronto or something probably probably like Canada. Yeah, we are internet my teens. Hey, yeah You're right. Um, I Mean, you know, usually the blonde teams are usually built to try to you know, go to the championship so I Think they have a structured system to go to the championship. I don't know if they have the full talent
Starting point is 02:19:24 You know from coming off the bench to go to the championship. I don't know if they have the full talent, you know, from coming off the bench to go to the championship and win it. Yeah. Just need guys to hit wide-open shots. Be nice. So frustrating to watch. He sets them up so perfectly. Be nice.
Starting point is 02:19:41 They should be missing. Guys to play with. He asked a question like, why does AD bring the ball up? I mean, maybe the coach tells him to Mm-hmm. I don't know But the Lakers ain't winning it. I mean, you know, it's gonna be rough for you this year, but we still love It's still love for you. It's gonna be a rough year for a lot of y'all. I was talking last year No, you better find your team and find them fast. Don't worry I'm only I'm gonna be the only one talking about my team's doing they don't like me
Starting point is 02:20:08 My my team's are not doing very well right now. It's doing great What's your team Celtics? You're a Celtics. Oh, it makes sense. Okay. I had to go back into the yeah I have to show people the throwback like that little leprechaun you know my cancer. Yeah. Oh, oh We got all of them. Oh, we got two of them now. I've been a Celtics fan. I've been a Celtics fan. All right, so are you accepting his bandwagon jump? Yeah, we accept all bandwagon until after our break.
Starting point is 02:20:34 I also don't care. Lakers will be fine. I also don't care. We're missing the S-factor. Jerry Vanderbilt. Come back, Vandalorian. We need you. It's good.
Starting point is 02:20:44 When you started the show, did you realize there's gonna be two Celtics fans? That you allowed on the couch and now because we didn't we didn't hire white people so I just figured It was either joy And on that note Shout out to all the amazing white people out there, especially those in Underdog Fantasy. What's funny is the founder is a boss in there. Shout out Jeremy.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Jeremy is the boss in there. Snuck into the locker room as a final. Those are the white fools we like around here. These pox. You got a check, you get our respect. You know the rules. But this has been another episode of
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