Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To Wemby's Historic Rookie Triple Double

Episode Date: February 13, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To Victor Wembyama's Historic Rookie Triple Double as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew break down Wemby's INSANE stat line of 27 points, 14 rebounds & 10 blocks and discuss the rookie phenoms transition to NBA superstar in his first NBA season. They also recap the Minnesota Timberwolves beatdown of the Los Angeles Clippers and debate if Anthony Edwards & the young Timberwolves are making an official push to be considered contenders in the NBA's western conference. Finally, they address the controversial call that cost the New York Knicks a win in a wild finish before debating if Giannis Antetokounmpo & The Milwaukee Bucks are finally turning the corner after a rocky start to the Doc Rivers era. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:06:32 CJ Stroud LOVES Brandon Jennings 0:08:57 Kanye's Superbowl Commercial 0:13:05 How Gil Changed The Weed Game 0:21:47 Spencer Dinwiddie Joins Lakers 0:25:05 Knicks Controversial Call Reaction 0:33:51 Worst Call of Your Career? 0:42:43 Would You Rather Play for a Trash Team or Ride Bench For A Contender 0:53:01 Why Does Gil HATE Cleveland & Detroit 1:06:58 Giannis & Bucks Get Revenge on Denver 1:12:42 Wemby's Triple-Double With Blocks Are the Twolves For Real or Fugazi?? 1:45:10 Worst Crossover You've Ever Seen? 1:55:48 All White vs All Black NBA Teams 2:01:25 Luka The Best Euro Ever? 2:07:39 Will We Ever See Another Steph? 2:15:03 Gil's Arena Tells Their Favorite Shaq Memories 2:22:44 MostlyFans 2:37:26 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with the fresh cut. We've got Brandon Jennings back on the couch repping Tough Crowd. And the Bucs, okay. We're going to talk a little Bucs today. I see. I got the Bucs. The Bucs. The collab.

When is that dropping? 326. Okay. 326. 326. Against the Lakers. Ooh. Ooh. Ouch. Okay. 2026 okay 2026 against the Lakers Oh Ouch okay, we got Rashad McCance back here with us

Ripping the Arabic is yeah the only thing that really counts Looking for my first endorsement, you know what I mean? Greatness.com with an eight. Go ahead, get your gear. When is merch? The merch is up. When y'all making big nigga sizes? Nah, man, you know what's happening?

Big nigga. You know how niggas do? Niggas get to looking at your shit and saying, oh, I made this first, and it's mine, and I had to, you know, the hoes be lying. Yeah. Yeah, somebody talking about, oh, it's copyright infringement, trademark. I had to take know the hose be lying yeah oh it's copyright infringement trademark I had to take it down stop it yeah we all use that slang don't we I'll be lying mm-hmm niggas maybe take it down yeah they won't be that shit they won't have shit I gotta come up with my own shit Michael Jordan gonna

come after this in a minute. How can he? Aaron McKenzie? I'm just saying, man. Two different brands. Two different means. I don't think about Aaron Jordan when I think about MJ. Two different airs. You're not the only one who have air, MJ.

Okay. Before we start the show, let's talk about some big news from Super Bowl week. We already know football players wish they were Hoopers. And NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year C.J. Stroud is no exception. Stroud pulled up to Micah Parsons' The Edge podcast and showed some love to one of our very own. Don't play on me, bro. I'm really a Hooper, bro.

I'm really a Hooper. You know who my comp is? You know who I play like? You're Steph Curry? I'm asking you a question. Oh, my gosh. Steph Curry, your favorite point guard? No.

Who's your favorite point guard? Brandon Jennings. You know who Brandon Jennings is? I do. It's a bucket. Is he not? The point is? No.

Answer my question. You know who Brandon Jennings is. Is he better than Steph Curry? No, duh. But that's my favorite. Okay. He sound like Rashad. I'd be saying, that's my, but that's my favorite. Okay. He sound like Rashad. I'd be saying,

that's my favorite. Doing some dry-hating. Oh, I got to send him some tough crowd. Yeah. My son was just talking about him before I saw that clip. He was playing with him on Matt and he was kicking my ass, my son. And then my son just showed me the clip. I was like, oh, okay, yeah,

we're going to get some stuff. You getting packed up by your son on Matt and Brendan? Bro, they... They nice? Yeah, they nice. They know how to do all the audibles. Come on, bro, you got to hit the controller out of the hand. Come on, man. I mean, I got to build the confidence.

Oh, no, hell no. Not in no video game. Boy, you got to let them cry. No, I did. I mean, I dealt with that. I dealt with that. He said, Mike the controller Not bro, they'd be crying that should be sad though the little kids be crying like that

They'd be crying like that. They'd be crying like tears. Man up, nigga. Man up. Turn the game off where the clock is zero. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, don't count. Oh, when they get ready to beat you, pause it. Oh, I got to do something. My bad, my bad. The ball in the air. Pause it. Pause that shit. Go leave for an hour. Woo!

You better not unpause that game. Let them leave. When they leave, turn it off. Oh, man. It overheated. It overheated. Got to start over. It overheated. I was beating you.

Here's what's cracking in the arena today. Top two teams in the West faced off on Monday. But what message did the Wolves send with their blowout win over the Clippers? The Knicks got by some bad officiating. What can the league do to stop this nonsense from happening? It was salty. And Wimby became the first rookie in more than 30 years with a 10-block triple-double.

But what's the transition been like for the Spurs rookie this season? That's a great photo right there. Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app, use promo code GILL. They will match your first deposit up to $100.

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Not even five. We play this shit for real, man. Four-way million? We do this. Trying to max it out. Stop. I know. Stop.

They not letting you do that. No way. A million. We. They not letting you do that. No way. A million. We do five pick-ems over here. That's definitely. On Underdog's side. But, and as always, we do mostly fans at the end of every show.

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we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So we talked a little bit about the Super Bowl yesterday, but just gotta talk about a big moment. Super Bowl commercials have become just as important as the game, brands shelling out $7 million for a 30-second spot. Kanye West decided to hustle smarter, not harder,

dropping the seven mil for the spot, but spending zero dollars on the production by filming the commercial on his phone. Hey y'all, this is Jay, and this is my commercial. And since we spent all the money on the commercial spot, we actually didn't spend any money on the actual commercial. But the idea is I want you to go to Yeezy.com, Y-E-E-Z-Y.com, and I'm going to write it at the bottom of the screen, and I got some shoes, and that's it.

The move led to instant results with Kanye sharing the end-of-day sales on his IG of the reasonably priced merch. Everything was $20, the $20 holler special. So Yeezy made, according to this, $19.3 million in sales on Sunday after lowering the price to $20. And it looked like Scott Hanson from Red Zone

that sent him the message, but all good. So, you know, we all like stacking bread here. What are y'all thoughts on Kanye's marketing strategy? Genius. Top five man to ever walk this earth. Putting it out there. Who are the other four? I can't say.

I can't say because it gets ignorant. That's classic. Yeah, they're not ready. Well, Jesus is in there. Jesus is one of them. Yeah, and then the other two, I would just, you know, y'all go ahead, man. Jesus walks, nigga. Yeah, Jesus is in there.

I'm in there top five. Jesus, yay. The other two, y'all not ready for. Jesus dropped like 14 mil on Super Bowl commercials too with a lot of too much foot fetish and go and go. Hey, I seen that. All right, man. A lot of beat stuff going on.

Come on, dawg. But, Shaw, what do you think about Kanye's marketing strategy, shooting the video on the phone, movie vehicle, audio janky, but nonetheless, seeing the return. I'm the king, huh? I like that shit, man. When you get blackballed, man, you got to resort to the lowest common denominator, man. That's yourself. He could at least wipe the screen off a little bit.

You know what I'm saying? But he's just doing his thing. He ain't shaved or nothing, probably ain't brushed his teeth. You know what I'm saying? But he's just doing his thing. He ain't shaved or nothing, probably ain't brushed his teeth. You know what I'm saying? He ain't got no teeth no more. He got them grills. He got the lift. He's like, this all I got left. This all I got left.

And everything is $20. Go buy. Is there a correlation between grills and bad breath? Yes. It feels like most people who got grills... It's like dreads and haircuts. They're coming for us now. Gil, what did you think about Kanye's marketing strategy? It's genius because he lets you know that

production doesn't sell your product, you do. Right? I mean, you know, you can spend millions of dollars on marketing, but if the product is trash, the consumer's not going to consume it. So he paid the $7 million for the spot. Right? For just the spot itself.

Right? And then showed the world that I'm not going to spend any money on production. I'm going to do it from my car like a regular person and watch I outsell you. Wow. So all that money they spend on commercials, it all just went out the window with 20 something seconds. He's the product. He is the product. Who he is, is the product. And you know, it kind of, I'm pretty sure next year there's going to be a, the production is going to go down and profit is going to go up.

But is that accurate, though? Because can you do it like Ye? The reason Ye get the shock value is because he got nothing to lose. No, he do have something to lose. Yeah. But he can't lose it because he got nothing to lose. No, he do have something to lose. But he can't lose it because he is the product. Him, his vision, his brain is the product. So when you say

he's canceled, where? When? You can't cancel someone's thought process. You can't cancel the idea. He's letting you know that if I'm canceled, how did I just sell $19.7 million worth of merchandise?

In a day. Someone had to buy it while I'm canceled. Let you know all that. Cancel is an idea, not a reality for most. What if you think of Bud Light or Verizon? They can't go down in production costs and just sell the product as like the CEO or you know any single entity. They have to actually still pay for spots and use production because it's like they

can't say I'm the product. They have to go out and collaborate with other artists. They do? Bud Light do? Well, Verizon had to. They had Beyonce. They had two people fighting over beer prices. But everybody was holding up

that motherfucker Bud Light in the stadium. Bud Light, here. Half off right now. Hurry up and go. They're going to go. They're going to go. Shit, the Super Bowl,

I got 15 minutes to get back before the game starts. Everybody's flying for half off. I mean, sure. I'm pretty sure everybody didn't go to Verizon. They said water in there was like $25.

Huh? They said water in there was like $25. Yeah. That's some water? They were taxing in and around Vegas, everything. Listen, you drop the price

on anything at the right time, people going. But that's what I'm saying. Like, Verizon didn't go up and say... Ain't no way Verizon sold more clones and shit

just because Beyonce did a commercial. No, no. Listen, that's what I'm saying. Let's say... Didn't go up and say no way to Verizon sold more clones and shit just cuz Beyonce did a commercial. No Listen that's what I'm saying you Let's say that how much is an iPhone? 900 900. Yep When the new iPhone drop Sell it for 300 See how many iPhones you sell that day?

The new ones the new one Soon as a new iPhone drop... Everybody will get one. Sell it for $300. No advertisement. $300. I guarantee you it beats the price, total price of when you sell it for $900. And that makes a point

of what you're saying about production costs, because then you wouldn't even have to do a commercial. You just literally show the phone and the new price. New price. New price. Brand new. Them goggles you got, 4,000? 4,000. They're 4,000.

They're 4,000. We got some goggles from shop for much cheaper. What I'm saying is who, like, only a certain group can buy for 4,000. Yes, yes. Right? So it's your price point. Right? If you're trying to make the most money you can, it's like the drug game, right?

The best product for the lowest price. Yep. So if you now drop those glasses to $500, like, oh, $3,500 discount. Man, watch. Watch. Watch what happens. It's the resale, though. It's your production.

It'll be like chicken sandwiches out that mug. See, but it's the resale, though. It's your production. It'd be like chicken sandwiches out that mug. See, but it's the resale, though. The resale? There's no resale. Resale market only lasts because the quantity is so short. Mm-hmm. Right? Right, so if I have ten thousand at At four thousand. Yeah once the once I've sell them and then the the quantity goes down then I can hide the price up Right. Mm-hmm. If I change it to five hundred and put a hundred thousand of them out there

But it depends on your production cost how much did it cost me to produce this? That's the number one. That's the number one metric of all productions. If it costs me a thousand dollars to make this goggle, I'm going to price it at 4,000. I get the 3,000 market, right? But if I go to 500, I got to sell way more to get my money back because I'm in the red at that point. But that's a gamble because you know if you actually, it's a good gamble because you know you're going to sell out and you know you can push up the quantities everyone's going to do it and the product is good yeah for sure speaking of good products blue magic gills arena presented by underdog fantasy underdog fantasy we need a super bowl commercial next year please can we just film it no it's

gonna be funny all right or just get us on off-kilter networks. We need some Gil's Arena promos for the people. They need it. But let's talk some basketball. Spencer Dinwiddie was one of the most coveted players on the buyout market. After meeting with the Mavs and Lakers, the L.A. native decided to return to his hometown and sign with the Purple and Gold.

Good move, Spencer. Good job. Hold on. I just seen a comment. Someone says Gil thinks he's smart. Okay, listen. I used to have a weed shop, right? The weed store before me was doing 200 people a day, right? 60 days later, I was doing 1,000 people a day, right? Back then, they were doing 3.5s, right, for 50 bucks high end.

I'm selling the same thing, thing right I capped it off at $35 Oh instead of giving 3.5 I was getting 4.5 so I'm giving you more product cheaper I got rated six times in a year because the competition around me couldn't afford to keep up you You're selling one bottle of water for $3. I'm selling three bottles of water for $3. It was $5? Right. So, yeah, I have to sell

more product, but I'm taking all the customs. All the customs. So I was going from $200 to $1,000. And that's the risk. So now when people see a handicap at $35 for 3.5 Understand someone is the reason that happened

Yeah Are you on on Gil's arena presented my underdog fantasy right now taking credit because I remember when that wave hit through it was a Very remarkable beautiful thing. Yeah, I seen I seen a young kid talking about it Listen, I was so savvy that I seen a young kid talking about it. Listen, I was so savvy that I seen a bum, right? A homeless man get $3. And I was like, oh, I want his money.

If anybody know Most Wanted, my Most Wanted weed shop back on Washington, they gonna vouch for it. I seen a bum get $3. I wanted it because the guy came in Spent and then went out. I said, oh no, I need that. So I invented one dollar shake

Whole bunch of leaves did a whole bunch of leaves and a whole bunch of old we used to buy the shake It's a good roll-up right there. $1 shake. Man, I had people coming in there selling or buying $100 worth of shake. $100. They stopped getting $100 shake. Resell those. Give me an ounce of shake, bro.

On Sunday, on Sunday, all ounces that was $500, top-notch ounces, $150. Every drug dealer was there Sunday. Capitalized. You'll make the dope boys go crazy. Shout out to Shea. Got a lot of us through our 20s. If anybody used to come to the shop, most wanted on Washington and Western,

can you please let these people in the chat know who was running? We call that a 20-win. Who was running. We call that a 20-20. Who was running the block. That's why I said they had the, I'm ready six times, man. Pop back up. I'm doing 1,000 people a day.

What y'all doing ain't nothing to me. They're making them calls. Motherfucker over here doing it. I don't like this shit. I don't like this shit. I don't like this shit. Y'all got to drop a dime on this motherfucker. I'm going to drop a dime on this motherfucker. There it is, dude. Yeah, we'll drop a dime like this shit. I don't like this shit. Y'all got to drop a dime on this motherfucker. I'm going to drop a dime on this motherfucker.

There it is, dude. I'm going to drop a dime on this motherfucker. We talked blunts. We talked blunts. Let's talk some backs of balls. So, like I said, Dem Windy, one of the most coveted players in the buyout market, decided to sign with the Lakers instead of the Mavs.

When asked what led to his decision, Dem Windy had this to say. I'll give y'all something funny that I told my people because I'm fairly candid. The two situations I felt like this, right? Let's say you were a kid and you got your ass whipped by the bully. That's what it's like. Your mom would be like, it's okay, baby.

Don't worry about it. Legs are like your dad. Now you got to go out there and fight till you win. You feel me? And I just felt like that was what I needed at the time. You feel me? So I'm a big believer in doing what you need to do at whatever time it is. And so that's how I felt about it.

OK, so I got some extremely intelligent people here on this couch. Can one of y'all explain what Dinwiddie meant with this bully analogy? What the fuck? He's saying basically like the Lakers is his dad. Right? Like, the Lakers is his home, where he want to be. Like, you know, the Lakers, what they stand for is, you got to fight to the end.

The Mavericks is mama saying, it's okay. They coddling you. Is that what he's saying? Wait, did he say the Mavericks? He said the Mavericks are like your mom. And then the Lakers are like your dad. You get bullied and your mom say it's okay okay stay in the house yeah stay in the house and then Lakers is like your dad like non no nigga on their fight go out there get your ass beat okay over and over again okay yeah yeah you win but you never gonna win no you know he said no win. You're gonna win. No, no, no, no. He's saying the title's hard.

You're gonna get your ass whooped over and over and over and over again. And over and over again. I know it was a little hard to hear, so I'll just read it for you. He said, let's say you're a kid and you got your ass whooped by the bully. Dallas would have been like your mama being like, it's okay, baby. Don't worry about it. Lakers are like your dad. No, you better go out there and fight until you win. You feel me?

Cheeky. Okay. Okay. I guess just the Laker jersey itself saying you got to go out there and, you better go out there and fight till you win. You feel me? Okay, I Guess just that the Laker jersey itself saying you got to go out there and you know fight for you know everything you You stand for you know because you know the symbol of what Lakers bring championships winning So when you put this jersey on it's like you fighting for you fighting for your rights in you So if you're Mark Cuban in the Mavs, oh we can't wait for this game If they can't wait for this basically saying Dallas is like, you know mama's boy. Yeah, no, then mom's all here

My mama had you know, come on. It's okay. You know what Lucas is like your dad, you know Lucas if they like And I took that shit personal That's a crazy. That's a crazy shot, though. But I mean, it ain't, no. I mean, I don't think, he's not taking a shot at, like, Dallas themselves as an organization. Just the Dallas jerseys themselves don't demand, what do they demand? Any small market, when you think about any small market team, like, there's no pressure on you as a player. But he been on both, he been on that side, ain't been on this side, so he can't even say this about the Lakers.

He can only say, I've been in Dallas, and this is how we treated situations. It's going to be okay. We good. He could have went to the safe place. That's what he's saying. It's safer in Dallas, but I'd rather have to fight for some shit

because he know they're struggling. And he a L.A. kid, so it's like it makes sense for him to be here for the rest of the season But I'd rather have to fight for some shit because he know they struggling and he'll a kid So it's like it makes sense for him to be here for the rest of the season and then go back to Dallas after this Going to Dallas, baby Hey Austin Reeves is in front of you boy Austin Reeves limit daddy front of you, boy. Austin Reeves? Limit Daddy. You gonna be playing behind Austin. Austin Reeves can't fuck with Spencer. Stop.

Austin Reeves can't fuck with Russell Westbrook. Austin Reeves can't fuck with Russell Westbrook, and they put that man in front of him. Spencer gonna be sitting there just like Larry Walters, just like Cam Reddish, just like all the rest of them. I'm like, man, y'all really got this mother-in-a-bitch and daddy, accident daddy in front of me?

You know what I mean? Let me tell you. But the let me daddy was bringing something that the other ones couldn't bring. Yeah. That was being able to hit shots and create your own shooting. That's called a white audience. Nah, that's called do work. You got to put the ball in the basket.

I don't give a fuck what your audience is. You got to give me the ball first. We do. Nope. Who? Smith's going to put the ball in the basket now. He can, but you got to put the ball in the basket. I don't give a fuck what your audience thinks. You got to give me the ball first. We do. Nope. Who? Smith's going to put the ball in the basket now. He can, but he got to get the ball. Swing that bitch.

Trust me. Let me get it. Yeah, we see it. All right. Two points a game. 20 minutes. You're saying what happened? When it's 22 minutes played in a game and you took three shots, 0 for 3, you're saying

what happened? You're playing hot potato at that point. That man, Lemon Daddy, waved LeBron off. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, think, yes. Yes. Woo! Papadi Lemon. How many guys can do that?

Papadi Lemon. The dudes who put the ball in the basket? How many niggas can do that? Whoever put the ball in the basket, right? How many of them niggas get shipped up out of there after that? Let me tell you something. If you hit five buckets in a row, and KG woulda did like this, and you did that, it would've been justified. I'm outta here. It would have been justified. I'm out of here.

It would have been justified. I'm out of here. You out of here. It would have been justified. It would have been justified. We'd have had a real conversation. We'd have had a real conversation after that. As long as you hit that next shot, you good. I ain't got to talk about nothing. Nigga, I'm a hooper. Watch out right now. You better put your goddamn hand down.

Five in a row in an NBA game? How many you made in a row? Five in a row in an NBA game? How many you made in a row? Five in a row in a NBA game. Yeah, right. Nigga, watch out. Michael Jordan can watch out. Watch the fuck out. Five in a row?

0 for 5, I wave Antoine Jameson off. Have you ever came down here, three in a row, five in a row? Huh? Okay, so you know. You're not passing the ball. You ain't passing the ball. Hey, I went 14 straight games not passing the ball. You ain't passing the ball, but let it go Yeah, I went 14 straight games not playing after that too. Hey, listen. I understand y'all understand

That's fair, but then I said and watch the rest of the time to where I remember Jeremy Lee and way and Kobe off watch out Boy well you got it you got it Spencer move around man, it's going to be in the Dallas. He's going to be at the end of the games, I can tell you that. That's a fact. He's a go-to bucket. Maybe. He's a go-to bucket.

Maybe. First of all, he can play defense, too. First of all, he's the best one-on-one player on the team right now. Where? We needed that. Didn't I say that? Spencer's the best one-on-one player. When he bought out, I said, oh, that's what we need, the Lakers.

I said that. Yeah, Spencer's the best one-on-one player on the team right now. Right now. So the Lakers waited, not made no moves, in order to pick up Spencer then with the free agency. No, no, no, no. Oh, that's not what they waited for. They didn't wait to do that.

They just couldn't move no pieces. And then people got wave, and they're like, oh, we can pick him up. How old is Spencer? 28, maybe. Come on. Oh, no, no, we can, him up. How old is Spencer? 28, maybe? Come on. Oh, no, no. We can, we can, we can to the yams, baby. He's 30 years old.

Same thing. Close enough. Close enough. All right, so we got an audience question on this topic. So, Spencer Dinwiddie has a contract incentive of $1 if the Lakers win the finals. What do you guys think of that? Give that man his dollar. So in his contract, he has an incentive of $1 if they win the championship.

Makes sense. I think it stems back to the contract he signed with the Wizards back in 2001. The bonus was added as a joke since I think the bonuses that the Wizards give out are always super low. It makes sense, though, right? That's a funny bonus. A dollar. A dollar if we win.

He was just talking about dollars. Yeah, you got to celebrate that, right? That's funny. He know they're not going to make it. He know he ain't got a goddamn chance in hell. But the Wizards? I mean, for the Wizards? No, for the Lakers.

The Lakers. He got the same joint. It's the same incentive. But it's still carried over, right? No, but the Wizards are known for doing, like, you know, low shit with their contract bonuses without any help of getting it. So he just set this up as a part of his contract. Oh, that's funny.

Yeah, $1 if we win. No, we ain't going to get it. Get that man his dollar. And I can tell you this. If I win a championship, I want the dollar straight from Jenny Buss. Signed and everything. Framed? Framed it Framed.

This is championship dollar right here. Right out the pocket. What? Right out the pocket. Just boom. Jenny. I ain't got to pay no taxes on this. Jenny. Spencer, take that dollar.

That dollar really like 35 cents. Spencer, take that dollar. Take that dollar. Have the taxes you got. You done lost about 35 cents. Have the taxes. I want the dollar out of pockets. Spencer got to pull dollar and 35 cents. After taxes, you got... You done lost about 35 cents. After taxes, shit, I want the dollar out of pockets. Spencer got to pull back up, man. Yeah, he here now.

Yeah, he here. He got to pull back up. When the Lakers win a chip, Spencer, take that dollar, go to Gil's Weed Shop, get you a badge. It's not a million, right? It's one dollar, right? One dollar. One dollar foot long.

A-O. Okay. All right. Well, let's talk about one of the most questionable moments in the association last night. Happened during the Knicks-Rockets game in Houston. Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. Next question. Give me some highlights. Give me some highlights. Give me some highlights. There we go.

There it is. Late in the fourth quarter with the Knicks trailing by two after mounting a comeback. Jalen Brunson hit this game-time jumper, and Dylan Brooks grizzled. Next possession. Brunson was whistled for a foul on this desperation three by Aaron Holiday. We got some more angles of it. The ref ruled that the illegal contact occurred before time expired. Put.3 seconds back on the clock.

Holiday made two free throws before intentionally missing the third. Josh Hart grabbed the rebound. Nix tried to call a timeout. But the ref ruled that the game had expired. And actually, Tibbs was not happy about that. Neither was Jalen Brunson. So after the game, Jalen Brunson was asked about the call

and decided to protect his pockets. Thoughts on that last play? Great call. Next question. What do you feel about your closeout on that play? It was a great call, next question. How do you make sure that an ending like that doesn't sit with you guys? Great call, next question. Thanks, Joe.

Thanks. Wait, Josh. Both teams played hard. Now, the funny part is if they try to fine him for that... Because he didn't answer no questions. He did answer. He said it was a great call. Both teams played hard.

That's why the media is so fucking annoying. But he keeps asking. Why do he keep... Yeah, they keep asking the same thing. You heard the first question. Oh, I'm going to ask it differently this time. So, the way that... But that's the problem.

When you do that, it's like they try to fix, like, we're trying not to get fined, right? And then you fine us for not trying to get fined. You gotta pick one. Yeah. But, yeah. Put them journalism degrees to work. Answer the question, sir. That's a real question.

That's why you gotta flip it on them and ask them different questions. You gotta ask them a question. Do you, it's a real question That's why you got a flip on them have some different you gotta ask them a question Do you think that's a foul? But here's the pierce the yeah, so do you think that's a foul? Whatever y'all say is I agree They didn't ask any more questions like that was the end of the end it was like y'all ain't got nothing else to ask That's it. It's like, oh, tell us about the little... I mean, that was probably the last question. I would hope so. Yeah, that was probably... Because the frustration is, y'all seen what the fuck happened. Why y'all keep asking me this stupid shit? So, also after the game, game official Ed Malloy admitted that his crew made a bad call. On which one? On that particular play.

Okay. Saying the contact which occurred after the release of the ball therefore is incidental and marginal to the shot attempt and should not have been called. So, there is another wrinkle in this story. It should be noted that the ref who made the call was also the same dude

who didn't call a foul for LeBron in the game against the Celtics in Boston last season. So, we got that clip. Did they rewind this game? Did they rewind this? When this happened did they actually go to the replay? They went to the replay just to check the time. for you talking about the next game right? No this game. No, I do not Because look at this place he's making a lab you can see the ball dies after it gets hit boom No foul called

you know it did lead to the demise or did a Malone that M alone say they had a M alloy did he correct this one and say that was a foul they messed up? I don't know about the LeBron one, but on the Knicks one, yeah. Okay. Did it right after the game. Means nothing. Knicks still suffered the L at the hands of the Rockets. So on a scale of one Timberland boot to ten Tims, how bad was this call?

Wait, what? You're confused. Wait. One Timberland boot to ten Tims, how bad was this call? Was it good? Yeah. I don't know, Gil. Tell me.

Whatever one is bad. All right. It's ten bad? We could go that way. Okay, so it's ten bad, then it's a ten because the referee said that it was a bad call. So So I'm gonna just go 10. That's how many boots they want to stomp the ref. Okay We all agree 10 But that's what happens anyway when you uh Who they playing who's they playing the Rockets in here man? That's crazy that you know you're all-star and

Guard and I don't know type of plays on you. Oh Listen, I can speak that that was like a star that No, that was taking the shot that was taking the shot and you giving him the benefit of the doubt But the fact that you give Whoever the benefit of the doubt versus Jalen Brunson says a lot. You're not gonna. That's a Steph call. I'm confused, but LeBron just

didn't get the call. Against Jason Tatum. What's the difference? This is Drew Holiday III. This is Drew Holiday III? Which one? This is the last holiday?

The last holiday. This is December. My bad. I'm sorry. My bad. I meant Aaron Holiday. I mean, it's the younger brother. Yeah, it's New Year's Eve. This is the December holiday. This is the last one. I mean, it's a lot of them. They all made it. They all made it.

So, Drew's New Year's Day and Aaron is New Year's Eve? The last one, the one we still have. Oh, shit, there's another one? That one. That one got it. They said Drew's a paid holiday. Aaron, you still got to go.

No. It's MLK Day in Arizona. No, but I'm just saying as a ref, I mean, you got to look at who's playing. You know what I mean? You got to. Like, those are calls you don't, you don't call on star players. You don't call that call on star players.

Unless it's a star player that's shooting. Right? But the fact that it wasn't, he's like, ooh, come on, ref. LeBron. Jason Tatum. Who's the biggest star? I should get the call.

But it's two stars. But I'm the biggest star. I'm a mega, I'm actually a mega star. No, no, no. So the problem with that is they have an idea that they want the stars to make the plays. Right? So there's this little gray area thing that when a star has the ball, they want the star to actually make the play. So they're less likely to call a foul if a guy's

driving unless it's just really obvious. So the fact that a star is playing defense, you wouldn't make that call and give it to a guy who's not proven. It just doesn't make any sense. I would agree with you if Jalen Brunson was shooting the ball and the other

nigga was fouling him. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It should be opposite. Jalen shooting, pow, foul. If Jalen's playing defense, I'm not giving Aaron Holiday a foul. I'm not thinking that it's Jalen Brunson fouling him. I think that the way that they called it, it was just a call, just the way it looked.

I don't even think he even knew or was thinking that Jalen Brunson was fouling him. You're rewarding Holiday for throwing that. One hand throwing. No, no, I'm not rewarding that at all. I was thinking like, but I was in Brunson holiday for throwing that one But the fact that it's like regardless of who's Fallon it's a dumb call regardless You know I'm saying but if you find out like in the replay you got a chance to overturn It's like it's Brunson like you kind of saying like now We're still gonna give it to him and and if you looking at the if you're looking at the call and you see

okay this ain't a foul let me it's just too no free throws right overtime yeah right that's the point it's like what was y'all thinking right it's overtime well it's overtime hey how much uh how much did it what was the what was the point spread on the Knicks winning as you know All I do is pick them No I'm just saying Just period I do pick them

On underdog fantasy Okay I'm gonna tell you Listen that game Gonna come back In the playoffs For the Knicks Oh yeah

Yeah And that feels like One of those Maybe they're gonna Give them one You know they're gonna End up a game Out of a better position

In the postseason Yeah I mean It'd be more Usually how many games Like that during the season Probably were like Six or seven Games you should've won Somehow I mean so They gave one more. Usually, how many games like that during the season? Probably, what, like, six or seven games you should have won somehow?

I mean, so. They gave one away. Yeah, you just add one of those to it. It's usually about six or seven. Obviously, we just do pick-ems at Underdog Fantasy. We are a fantasy-driven show, but Knicks were favored by four points. Yeah, I know. Yeah, they didn't want to go to overtime.

Yeah, yeah. You don't want to go to overtime, and then they cover that. So, moving on. That's crazy. What was the worst call or no call that lost your team again? Worst call or no call that lost your team again? With Kobe fucking Albo big in the face. That I played in?

Played in, seen. That we played, seen. Oh, no, man. I usually got all the calls. Really? Oh, no! Damn crab, that word crab dribble. The crab dribble. Can't say that in certain parts of LA, Gil, but I understand all of it.

Facts, facts. We in the valley. We talking about the real, the real, the real food. The real food. The real one. A crustacean trip. Crustaceans driven. Beverly Hills on and on.

Yeah, when we was playing, you know, LeBron in the playoffs, and he kept doing the right, right, left move. You're jumping off one foot, landing on the next foot, gone. They hit two game winners doing that. That's when he said, that's just a crab dribble. Eventually, I think a year later,

they end up giving that actual treble call. So yeah, that kind of cost us the playoffs. And if they would have called that, then the whole shoulder thing wouldn't have happened and then, you know. Domino effect. Domino effect.

Traveling. So Brandon, what is the worst call or no call that lost your team a game? Don't need to be in the league, but just any point in your basketball career. I mean, probably my junior year against Derrick Rosenham playing, like, O'Kill. They just cheated us. Like, we had no chance of winning. I don't even know why Coach even scheduled that game. How much y'all lost by?

Lost by, like like three or four. In Chicago? In Chicago. At the end of the game? Yeah. No, yeah, because I mean just... No, we came back. I mean, we came back in the fourth,

but it was just one of those like, you know, okay, we don't play for State, so if we lose one game, we don't get nothing. So it was like one of those games where it's like, we're playing Derrick Rose in Chicago. I don't think he answered that question. We said a call, not a game. I mean, every call.

Every call to me. I just felt like, well, damn, that's true. Well, shit. No slip out, shit. He said every call. Every call. The whole game. The whole damn game.

All 62 calls they made. So Sean, what was the worst call or no call that lost your team again? At Carolina versus Wake Forest, CP3. Triple over, maybe double overtime. I can't remember if it was triple or double. And CP, this is when you knew he was one of the crafty-ass, cheating-ass little niggas. Went up there and did the shot with the kick, kicked his foot out. And they called that shit. And he had to free throw to win the game. And it was one of those like, keep replaying it.

You see it's like this motherfucker's literally Reggie Miller, the whole shit. Got to free throw to win the game. Probably one of the more hurtful ones because we hated Wake Forest, and I always felt like they was cheating against us every time. They call it an offensive foul now, right? Yeah. Okay, now, how do they determine if it's... Okay, so I know, so what happens, when they're doing rules and going over rules,

I want to sit in film study when someone has to demonstrate it, one of those white officials has to demonstrate why it should be a foul or offensive foul. If someone does a fadeaway jumper, do they not know the motion of this move? And that's the point. If it's a constant motion in your shooting progression, they won't call it because it's a part of your shot. But a lot of guys don't shoot the same way. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

But it's a fade. So like Jordan's one-two pull-up, both his feet are under him. All of Jordan fades, one foot is out. That's the point of the fade. That's how it looks. It's the balance of it. So even when Dirk did the one foot, that is the natural progression of that shot. One foot, one foot forward. So if you start calling an offensive foul or something, because you're not going to jump back, keep your legs straight on a fade

away. They wouldn't call that foul on Dirk or Jordan or none of them because it's a fade. And if you are fouling, it's because you're trying to block it at an angle, right? So if you're Reggie Miller, the Reggie Miller three, they never called it on Reggie because it was like a fade away. They're calling that now. Because

guys aren't doing fades. Guys are shooting straight up and they're putting their leg out because they want the foul. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. James Harden really, really made that shit. But, okay, so a call like that, right, it shouldn't be, if you're not going to call

a foul on the defense, don't call nothing at all. Right? Everything is not a fucking call. There's some times where two people collide and they just collide. Right?

If he's not there in time for the charge and he's still out of control, right, you don't want to reward either one of them, there's a thing called no call, right? Incidental contact. You don't have to make the call because you don't know who to penalize. You can't just make it up.

So if two people jump for the ball and we collide and the ball goes, I'm not going to make up a call to say, uh, who was after it first. Someone's initiating the contact. That's the point of the call. It's like if you're shooting like Steph, how Steph does the flip, Trey Young does it all the time.

You're initiating trying to get us to call the foul because it's not your natural shooting motion. But it don't matter. You're not in your natural defensive motion either. How? Because if I'm shooting here, if you don't jump, there's no contact.

So the only contact is because you're trying to jump across my body. Or I'm just trying to get to you so that I can contest a shot. Now, if you start kicking your leg out

because you know that, which is a smart play, but it's you initiating the contact. No, I'm initiating the space. Right, so if any other way, if I'm not there, you're shooting straight up, you're coming straight down.

That's the difference. So if you know I'm coming, and then all of a sudden you kick your leg out, you're trying to get a foul. Otherwise, you would shoot it regularly, come up, come down. All right, so if I dribble like this, right? Nothing. If I dribble like this, and then you run through my arm and get clothesline, that's offensive foul on me.

I've already established my arm out here. You run into it, that's your fault. Or it's a no call. That's why I said it's a no call. Because what's happening is if I know you're going to kick your leg out as a defensive player, what am I going to do now? If I'm a smart defensive player, I'm going to run into your leg knowing that they're calling offensive fouls now. Right?

So everyone gets smarter with rules. But think about it as a defender, too. If you're thinking that and you're knowing that he's trying to initiate that and I can get that call on him, he's now got to not do it. Now he's got to shoot a regular shot. And now it's not about him thinking about getting the fall Foul more than just hit but that's why I said most of these stuff like if you if you want to take out the bad habits Don't call the stuff Not calling it

actually helps if I'm a flopper right and I don't want to stand my ground on defense and I'm going to just keep trying to get the flop call. And you don't call the offensive foul two or three times, and I just gave up six points. You know what my teammates are saying. You know what my coaches are saying. So I'm going to stop fucking flopping. You don't have to make a call for the behavior to change. The behavior changes on no calls, not calls.

If I'm doing something and you're not called, if I'm coming in there and I'm trying to do this and get a foul and you just like, James Harden, James Harden against Miami Heat, right,

when he was with OKC. During the Spurs series, all that flopping he was getting coming in, he was getting rewarded. He didn't get rewarded in Miami. He had to stop it by game four and game five. Like, we ain't calling that because out there he was getting rewarded. He didn't get rewarded in Miami. He had to stop it by game four. In game five, like, we ain't calling that.

Because out there, he was looking stupid. Coming in, and they just like... So at what point is it a flop, and at what point is it a charge? Because that's where we all come into that conflict where if you're Kyle Lowry or Shane Battier, and you flop the first two times, right? And then I, as an offensive player,

I'm like, oh, they're not calling the flop. So I really get to, I'm about to burst through his chest. And then I actually get a charge. It's a clean call. Does that a no call? It all depends. Like, let's say you doing that and you can see he's not manning up

and you go and score a layup, right? He tried again, you go and score a layup and then the third time you really hit him. And he manned up, ah, then he boom. Layup. No call? Layup. I'm calling the third one. Why? You just tried to trick me twice.

Why would I try to reward you doing it a third time? Okay, I see what you're saying. But that's what I'm saying. As a defensive player, you would be dumb enough to try it again, and I just didn't call it twice. Right. So I need to break your habit. You're going to give up.

All right, give up another two points. I'm not calling it, sir. So you're saying on the third one, when I do man up to play defense. And you still take the hit and still fall again? Right. You're saying bucket. Bucket. So at what point is it a charge, though?

That's what I'm asking. At what point is it a charge? When he learns how to play defense. Because obviously he don't want to stand his ground. If he stands his ground the third time and you still don't call it, at what point is it a charge after that? Because at this point it's like, all right, I faked twice. Fuck.

All right, I tried. Third time. Hey, Griff, he really ran me over that time. What is that old saying? You scream wolf how many times before? Cry wolf, cry wolf. You cry wolf, obviously, goddammit. You're going to get eaten because I ain't out there looking no more.

All right, let's keep it moving. Former Knicks guard Evan Fournier was in Tibbs' doghouse this season, only appearing in three games and stacking DMPs. Fournier was traded to the Pistons in the deal that sent Bogdanovich and Alec Burke to the Knicks,

and he couldn't be happier to be in Detroit now. Go from your team to your home team, obviously, go physical. You meet everyone. You go through plays. So, yeah, I'm really excited to finally be out uh so uh looking forward to new opportunities so raises the question he went from the knicks which have the potential to be a contender this season you guys may agree or

disagree with that but they're trending in the right direction to the pistons who on pace to be one of the worst teams in NBA history, would you rather get more run on a trash team or ride the bench on a contender? More run on a trash team? Sup? Sup? Well, I got to go guard coach. Going to get my minutes. What you talking about? On a trash team, yeah. Yeah, really? Yeah, on the trash team yeah on the trash team all day

okay so how do you sit there share this intimacy this side of the couch or do you want to be a winner yeah it would

conflict on my past yep I don't think I can I don't think I can switch up now even though even though, I understand what he's saying.

Like, when you in the doghouse, it's different. Because they not even looking to put your ass in the game. Like, he wasn't even dressed. So if you're in the doghouse, right. If you're in the doghouse. In his situation.

And where he is in his career, right? It's tougher. Because how many years is he in now? I mean, what is he, like 10? Yeah, like 10. Yeah, he's been around. And he played in New York for a while. Has he played yet?

Nah. Three games, Gil. Three games. He's played three games with the Pistons? No, three games with the Knicks. Oh, I'm talking about the Pistons. No, I played with the Pistons. Oh, okay.

I was going to say that's what I was looking for. Even if he goes, he might not play with the Pistons because they got a bunch of young niggas that's been waiting to hoop out there. So I would stick it out just because you there, wait till the end of the year, get traded. But right now, I mean... They do got a bunch of youngins. Yeah.

I forgot. Because you never know what will happen in New York. Motherfucker get hurt, you got to call your name, got to put you in. They forced to put your ass in. And down there in Detroit, they don't know what the fuck they doing. You might never see the light of day.

The 48th and it's 12th season right now. Yeah. I mean, I see 24, 25% said. Oh, shit. They would sit the bench on the contender. You said 25%? Do y'all do? I mean, just the concept itself. Do you know, like, what...

Like, you working your ass off, right? You working every single day to go sit on the bench and cheer for other people who's doing the same thing. Like, you know there's no reward, right? I just want you to understand the fact that, like, let's go to work every day

and you never, ever get paid. Yeah, that shit don't sound too good because at the end of the bench, that's exactly what it is. Because the fact that you're not getting in the game, that means you have no stats. So when you become a free agent, it's zero, right? You have zero. There's no one giving you nothing for the whole year of nothing. That's the problem like when you think about the champions when you think about Steph Curry when you think about clay when you think about

all these guys remember there's a it's a team so there's a guy that's 15 14th and 13th on that team won't you follow their their champions that night how many of them do you think is not actually in the NBA the following year? That's a thing. They're champions, and that's why I said they would turn that into playing time, because if they play, they get rewarded.

They get an opportunity. When you don't play, but you're at the end of the bench, yeah, you're a champion, but how does that ring? Like, oh yeah, I won a championship with, who won it last year? Denver. But you averaged zero, so how much do you think you worth? Zero.

I mean, you know, was it McAdoo's son? Oh, yeah. McAdoo. Michael McAdoo. James, right? James got two rings. He played three games the next year he was out of the league. I mean, he wasn't playing for Golden State.

Just, you gotta think. So we asked the chat, Would you rather get more runners on the trash team or ride the bench on contenders? 76% said more runners. Gil said, Gil said, hmm? I'm just saying, you know, or ride the bench are contenders. 76% said more. Gil said, Gil said, I'm just saying, you know, you work every day. My book is in practice every day. 11 o'clock to 1 o'clock, doing that, doing that, and you get to sit on the bench all

year long. Trust me. Hey, hey, hey, PJ Tucker over there, ask him how he feel. He will go anywhere right now. I mean, that's a lot, right? That's in live motion. P.J. Tucker right now is on a team that is contending,

that is possibly favorite for the champions, and he's like, I want to buy out. I don't want to be here. Because he knows at the end of the season, it would be hard to get a job and you didn't play all year but he also knows by the end of the season somebody gonna go down and I gotta come up my he's so next man up they so far Bobby sir he's so far he saw he's so far on the bench Bobby sir but

I'm saying he's so far on the bench on somebody Serra. But I'm saying, he's so far on the bench, y'all. Somebody got to come up. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying, when a motherfucker go down, somebody got to come up. So, you don't want to pray on that, but it's like, it's just you there, you're like, man, I got to stay ready. You don't know for sure you got to stay ready, but how far is he down that?

But even if he's not, what happens is, let's say they win a championship. Obviously, right now they're number one and doing that, he ain't happy, right? He won't out. They win a championship, you really think he cares? Yeah, I think so because a lot of the other guys y'all mentioned are guys that wasn't in the league long enough to be considered utility guys like P.J. P.J. is a utility guy with longevity that if he has a championship mark on him, which he does. He does. Which is why he will continually get picked up as a locker room guy,

as a utility guy, because he got that. Him wanting to hoop for another contender makes more sense than him going to just go hoop for any fucking man. No, he just want to go hoop.

I don't think he just wants to. He just want to go. He not going to go to Detroit and be out there like, yeah, I'm running up and down I don't know about anywhere. He's already a champion. Nah.

Yeah, but I don't think anywhere. What I'm saying is, let's say he has two options, right? You go to a team, play 10 minutes, you know, coming off the bench, and y'all have a chance to win, or you go here and you play 35 minutes. No way. 10 minutes? 35 minutes? Now, 35 minutes give me No, no. 35 minutes give me another time.

PJ already got his value. He don't need to play for his value. All he need to do is politic for his value. Where the coach at? Hey, coach, you know what I bring. He's not playing right now. He probably won't be in the league next year. No way.

That's right. He's UD. Like, I talked to him. He UD at this point. No, no, no, no, no. He ain't UD. Why not? UD was the team.

No. UD was loyal. UD sacrificed for that organization, for them to pay him back. UD was the security guard. Yeah. Damon. Yeah. He was Damon for them.

But what I'm saying is... PJ can be Damon for any contending team. No, no. He's going to be coming in on Damon. I turned down... When I was a free agent, I was a hot free agent. I turned down $40 million on the open market to sign for $9 million back here so y'all can get LeBron James and Chris Bosh. I did that.

That's what he did for the organization. The PGA don't have that with no organization. A lot of players don't have that with organizations. They owed him. But we're talking about the logistics of his ability, that with organizations. They owed him. But we talking about the logistics of his ability, one, the market value for him.

Right now? And what contending team would pick him up compared to a team that's struggling and needs some vets? He not going to go to no vet team

and sit there and be like, we just going to lose and I'm going to pay 35 minutes. It's not beneficial for him. And that's why he left. It is. He left.

If he can play 35 minutes right now, that is... Why you he left. If he can play 35 minutes right now, that is... If I can play, listen, 35 minutes, I'm playing. I'm about to say, another two-year contract. For hell yeah. No way.

35 minutes? If you go out there and play an average, what? What do you do? Are you the go-to guy? First of all, you're showing me that you can play 35 minutes at that age. Well, what do you do? Are you the go-to guy? It don't matter. First of all, you saw me that you could play 35 minutes at that age. What do you mean? I don't need you to play 35 minutes because you're not going to play 35 minutes on our team.

You're only going to play 12. You're only going to play 10. But you saw me. It's a market. But that's what I said. My market of playing 35 minutes, I have more opportunities in the open market with my stats playing 35 minutes. It don't matter. If you're going to play me 12, I don't want to come to you. But 35 minutes, I can easily get a million.

If someone's going to give me a million dollars and they say, oh, you played 35 minutes, you averaged seven points, four rebounds. With the Detroit Pistons. With the Detroit Pistons. The last place team. It don't even count. We didn't even count that. It doesn't even count. Everything does.

I don't even count. Or I sat on the bench and It doesn't count. Everything do. I don't even count. Or I sat on the bench and scored nothing the whole season. Which one you think I'm going to get a million dollars? It count more. It count more. You with the Clippers because at least you was in practice making these things better. What is he doing for the Clippers? Okay, but what is he doing for the Clippers?

At least you in practice making them better. You guarding P.J. He's making them better. P.G., Kawhi, and James. I'm making them guys better. And they speaking for me in the organization. He's going against everything that you stand for, though, anyway, because he's already a champion.

He knows what championship things is. He's on a team that can possibly win a championship, and he says, fuck all that. I want to play basketball. Yes, because he feels he's supposed to be in the lineup. It don't matter what he feels. He feels like he's supposed to be in Terrence Mann's. It don't matter where he feels. It does. Right now, in

real time, a ring, a dude who has a ring, who won a ring, is in another position to win a ring and he's saying, I want out of here because I'm not playing. No, he never said you're adding words. No. What did he say?

I want out of here to go play. That's it We're not gonna just go go to Detroit They don't matter where it that you can say what you do, but I use that as context Let's say he means and no, but he didn't say everywhere He wants to put he has a ring Mm-hmm. He wants to play for a contender. He has it. No, that's what you can't say what he was. He has a ring. He wants to play for a contender. He has a... No, that's what... You can't say what he wants. He has a ring. Right?

He's a champion. Yep. He's on a team that can possibly win the championship. He's saying, fuck this. I want to play. A P.J. I want... Buy me out.

I want to go play. Don't matter where. He can go play at the park. He can go play at AAU. He can go play for the... But if that's the case, he would be taking his ass to the park right now. Just shut the fuck up. Show up. To the game. Go play at the park. He gonna play a you he can go play for the cut But it if that's the case he would be taking it as to the park right now I just had to fuck up well up to the game go play at the park What I'm saying is a guy who's in the position to win another ring is saying I will give that up for playing time

You know PJ call in man, that's what I want What I'm saying, it ain't no clarification. He clarified to the world. He just said he's not happy he want to play. That's what I'm saying. That don't mean he don't want to play for a contender.

It don't matter contender or not. He's on a contender that has the highest opportunity to win. He's saying, I don't want this. I want to play. We can't say where he wants to go.

He's just saying, ring, let it go, play. So why did you ask how to feel it? You could have been still playing in Philly, nigga. You wanted to follow somebody else. Hey, I ain't got no sympathy for your ass if you feel like that now, and you didn't feel like that then you was playing. But when we talk about rings in real time, you have people who's letting you know,

yeah, the ring is cool, but I want a hoop. I want a hoop. I'm pretty sure if they start giving him 15 minutes a game, yeah, he'll change his mind because he's playing. But right now, we have a chance to win the ring or playing time. And he's like, I'll take playing time. This is a prime example. Prime example. And PJs what like 30 BJ 35 30 no he is 38 years old. He'll be 39 in May

It is a Chris Brown made a song called the grass ain't greener on the other side for playing the grass ain't green Okay, PJ. Yeah, you left you thought it was gonna be green down here cuz you was with your mans He left Philly. Yeah, you left you thought it was gonna be green down here cuz you was with your mans He left Philly. Yeah, I don't know the grass was really or did he get or was he? Trade it. He was traded. So, okay. I got one in that. No, I got one in that. Huh? I want in that Guess what we going What we're going We're gonna sizz Sizzler. Cali. What you mean? I'm out of Philly. I'm going to Cali,

but I was hooping in Philly. I should have stayed my ass in Philly. Sizzler is a delicious restaurant. Gil, we have a mostly fans question. This person does not have an Underdog Fantasy account yet, but we are optimistic that they will get on board to get their $100 bonus. What up, dawgs? This is Danny Dine from Detroit. This question is for Gil. So I was born in

Cleveland, raised in Detroit, right? Why do Cleveland and Detroit always seem to catch random strides from you? Is it because Detroit kept you out the all-star game and Cleveland ruined your playoff appearance with that shoulder tap? You got gotta let us know something, man, because we're tired of it. Alright. Cleveland, obviously, they was our enemies in the playoffs. So that's just a natural, natural beef. Now, Detroit, okay, it's not with the city of Detroit.

It's with the security guards of that arena, right? When I was running from child support responsibilities. Detroit let them get me. You can't blame the whole city for the actions of a few security guards. I don't blame the whole city. I didn't say the whole city sucked. I didn't say the Pistons.

I always say the Pistons. I can't help it if the Pistons fans, you know. Well, they're fans of the team. Yeah, cool. Where were they funky asses at when the goddamn server was outside the bus? When the bad bitch jumped on me. What was they at when the server was outside the bus giving me the paperwork? Sacramento Keys got the best security ever!

Never let them in. Never! Back up! Where was your ass at? Where was your intent at, Detroit? You know what? You're dismissed. So that's the real reason. It's not that I don't like the team, it's just that I got bad history there. So Detroiters hopefully you could they gave me my responsibilities When I wasn't asked For you understand someone with a on the PJ Yo, so at 38 at his age 35 minutes if they was going you wouldn't go the fuck do I need 35 minutes at? Oh, I'm not saying but I believe but just say no gave you like if you was to go to any team right now They was like, yo, just come in, play 25 minutes.

And you get a contract after that? Win another chip. He out. But that's the problem. I want to win another chip. He's about to turn 30. What would be the point? Money?

At this point, it's like, yo, they're not going to pay him more. We're not talking about how much more he's going to get paid. We're talking about how much more he's going to play. That's a different conversation. That's a whole different conversation. Okay, so a conversation this is two roads he wins he don't play no more the season like he ain't and he wins the championship and he's not in the nba starting next year because obviously he didn't play the whole season right or you go to a different team you play and then you get another one-year deal and you're playing

24, 25 season, or 25, 26 season, which role do you take? Shit, then you can play until you're 40. Okay, the scenario would be then if he plays, reads up for next year, and he gets a new deal, right? Yeah, he'd play. Well, he's not playing at all again. But he's

playing. But he's not. He's sitting on the bench. Okay. Yeah, but I'm paid. But you're just getting paid. Yeah. So you're just doing it for a contract. Now you're just doing it for money. At this point, I don't think PJ does that for a nigga.

So I'm going to sit here all year and not play, get a ring, and then go home? Or you get paid, come back, and do the same thing you was just doing the year before. You're just doing the same shit. But that's what I'm saying. You're adding. You're adding an extra element to it. I'm just saying. He can go be out here collecting shoes for this whole year. That's what I'm saying.

What you doing? That's what I'm saying. We're talking taking two roads. You win a championship, and you're not in the NBA next year because you have no stats because you didn't play this year, or you get traded or get a buyout. You play, and you're on a team next year. So you're saying that if he did sit,

he did win. If he sits, he wins. If he sits, he wins a ring. But he doesn't play next year. But he doesn't play next year. Yeah, he's going to take that. He'll take that. He'll take that, right?

I think he would. So why does he want out? Because he don't want to play with them. He would go back to Philly. I think he'd go back to Philly. Of course he'd go back to Philly. I think it's a bigger rift than it is just not playing. I think it's a disconnect because when he got there,

he thought it was going to be good, and then it wasn't. He thought he was going to play. Yeah, of course. And he's not. So it's a rift between whoever told him he was going to play, and now he found out he ain't playing. What I'm saying is you got traded. He got traded.

What's the fuck about no getting traded when you actually get a trade? You have to be a part of the trade. But I'm saying. I don't know that. I don a trade. You have to be a part of the trade. But I'm saying. I don't know that. I don't know. You're not playing. That's the point. So if he's not playing and they're winning and he's not happy and he wants out,

obviously championship and winning has no merit into sitting on that bench. Nobody wants to sit on the bench. We all know. Nobody want to be on no team and not play anyway. I know one thing. If I could leave and not play anyway. I know one thing. If I can leave and go play at 38 and get another contract, nigga, I'm doing it. I don't give a fuck.

I'm doing it. I'm going to play until I'm 40. At 38, that's wasting time. I'm getting that 40 off. Well, let's talk about some players that are playing with a special hibachi time. Oh, there it is. That's hard right there.

Mood lighting. Get that in my house. We've upgraded our budget substantially. We got $300 more for these mood lights. Pretend to light a candle. Candle. Get the mood right. Get the work.

Get that work light right there. Get that work light. Did you do these lights? I'm just saying. Yeah. That's the work light right there. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light.

That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light.

That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work light. That's the work watching the show. Valentine's Day. If you or somebody knows some work, Valentine's Day is around the corner.

We give you $300 if you sign up for Underdog Fantasy. Use promo code Gil. Applebee's on me. I was an Applebee's. $100 deposit match. That's the greatest Valentine's Day gift one could ask for. But talk a little bit about the Greek freak. Nuggets gave the Bucks their first loss in the Doc Rivers era,

and Giannis and them had to get some revenge for their new head coach. The only reason we're doing this is because you're here today. We know you ride with these Bucks. I can't believe they won in the blues last night. I can't even believe it. You rolling with the blue jersey? I don't like the blue jersey. Damn, Ray, what you saying? Oh, no, I...

You were liking it when it was red? A couple of possessions ago. Well, I'll be honest, in my era, we did wear the red ones because of Stack Jack. Stack Jack said it was mandatory. He told them it was mandatory to wear the red ones. So, Giannis dropped 36 points, 18 rebounds, 5 assists, 9 in the wind, hitting jumpers. Okay. Okay.

They're going with what it's all about. Not in the wind. Hitting jumpers. Okay. Okay. We're going with what it's all about. So the Bucs offense declined a little. Yeah. Bucs offense declined a little under Doc Rivers, but their defense appears to be improving. What?

Gil, can I finish doing what I do? Why you just be making up shit? I'm making up shit? This is their second straight game holding opponent under 100. They won their past two games by a combined 53 points. Yo, that's not a big deal to you? The defending champion Nuggets? It is. It is a big deal.

Getting clamped. They played the Hornets, bro. They played the Hornets, man. I do not pick the schedule. I mean, they played the Hornets. And if they would have lost, you would have been on the schedule. The Hornets are an NBA team. What I'm saying is they played the Hornets and they still didn't even score over 125, what they was averaging. So, obviously.

I said the offense is declined. The Nuggets, I mean, whoo. I didn't know the Nuggets score 130 a game anyway. God damn it, that slow-ass offense. They don't play no goddamn defense. I mean, shit. So, this question is for Brandon. What'd they do with the Timberwolves?

Did they slow down the Timberwolves? Did they slow down the Timberwolves? Where was their defense at with the Jazz? 123 to the Jazz. This question is for Mr. What was their defense against Portland? That's sorry-ass team. First of all, Portland was a homecoming for Dame. It was a lot of energy.

What was the defense, though? Three teams that aren't scored, they don't have stars, are scoring buckets that play fast. The slow teams, ooh. So it's not their defense. Their offense is just so bad that there's just less possessions in the game. I mean, let's really say it how it is. Talk about it.

I don't like to fake it for the, right? You can do all the stats you want out there, but the basketball players, their offense is so bad now that it's just less possessions in a game, which gives the other team less possession. It has nothing with them stopping anybody, because obviously, Jazz

and they couldn't stop the Jazz. Who's over there? Is Curry over in the Jazz? What star player's over there? You know. Lori Norton. Kessler. Jordan Clarkson. Is the is curry over in the jazz who what star players over you know? Oh, he's on all-star game. He's an author again Marketing so so so jazz don't have an all-star. They could stop them Blazers don't have all-star, huh? They couldn't stop them. So where y'all gonna be at in May?

Do your you know what I mean to give blood? May? I know where I'm going to be. I know where my team is going to be. Where? I know where my team is going to be. Playing. In the first round? So Brandon. Playing.

Same place y'all was at last year. What I'm saying is just don't give a false. Don't just don't give a false. That's like something's happening. They held two teams under, two NBA basketball teams under 100 points Was it defending NBA? They held them and then Let's just say the other team held them under 120 foe to cuz I know they didn't score that

How much did they score in those wins? Like 120 or so 112 and 120. Yep. Yep Okay, we got it Gilbert you fucking up to 112 120 for you how long we have doc for like a week That's all two weeks two weeks. All right, you know, we straight how y'all sure all-star weekend coming We got the whole all-star weekend break. We'd be straight he going on vacation Yeah, we all are he's coach. Yeah, they all are So why is one funny day for Dutch and. Why is Dave's production going down? He's supposed to be producing.

Yeah, it should not be going down. The production should not go down. It looked like he struggled more now. Don't say Doc just got there. He was consulting, man. Do you know what consulting means? That means training camp there. He's consulting.

Listen, I'm going to give him all the responsibility that he should have as a consultant. So that means it was working. That means the plays that was coming in, he had to consult to make sure they was right. That means it was working. It was working, right? It was working. Yeah, it was working. So why they ain't working now?

Why they ain't working now? Why they ain't working now? He was consulting on them when they was good. Now that he ain't consulting no more, they should be working. He is head charged now. He was at training camp. Yeah, what place the buck to? Who the fuck is consulting him?

That's the question. That's the question. Who's next up? Who's next up? I hope it's Adrian Griffin. We in third place, so we still... That was the second before you got there. Second, okay.

Yeah, I was second. Okay. Does Doc not deserve a little time, a little grit? Yeah, Doc. I'm not saying he's not worth it. I'm saying he's not worth it. I'm saying he's not worth it. We in third place, so we still... That was the second before you got there. Second, okay. Yeah, I was second. Okay. Does Doc not deserve a little time, a little grace?

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. No! You didn't give Adrian no time. Stop being a hypocrite. Stop being a hypocrite. I didn't make the decision. If it was my decision, I would have kept him. You're asking questions.

Shit, he coached me. I was cool with him. No, what I with it. No what I'm saying is what I'm saying is what grace do you have? If you are the consultant Good does that mean he's that every practice? Yeah To me your mind You know everything You get to know you had to know you've For sure. For sure. You know everything. You get to know. You had to know. You've been a consultant since training.

When you got the job, training camp, you was a consultant. In my brain, you was at every training camp. You was at every call after the game. In my brain. In my brain. That's how you're getting paid. You're getting paid. Based on you being about every practice, every game.

Every time you watch us, you, hey, how do you like these plays? You're a consultant. That's all I know what consulting means. You're every film you watch. How do you like these plays? You consultant. That's all I know a consultant needs. See you in my brain. My consultant. Hey, listen. A consultant on the show,

that means after every show, what happens? We consult. We talk. Before every show, what happens as a consultant? Yeah. We talk.

I'm a host of EP. I have a full-time job. So you're a consultant, too, on the show. Yo, Pops coming Thursday. We're going to see. You're a consultant on the show. No, Pops coming Thursday. We're going to see. You're a consultant on the show. No, it's that nigga in the earbud.

Amongst other things. It's that nigga in the earbud that be telling him to do shit that he be doing and shit. Like talk about Rashad's shoes. Yeah, but that's consulting. So that means they're watching in real time. That means I should beat that nigga ass just for bringing that shit up. He has something he wanted to know. Yeah.

So our consultant, if we're going to say that. Gil, I sit on this couch. I am a multi-hyphen. He's watching. Multi-hyphen. Get on, Gil. Get on. That means the consultant right now is watching, typing, adding shit, removing stuff.

Right? Talking after, looking at the numbers. So that's how I look at consultant. Doc did all that. So if you want to say that, number seven on Complex Sports Media personalities due to my consulting. Yes. Give me a red. Yes.

Give me a red. Give me a red. Boom. I need more red. You see my fit. I need more red. You see my fit. I like that comeback, Joe.

That was a good comeback. So that means Buck shouldn't be losing because the consultant has been consulting from the beginning. 100%. Well, we're going to lose some games. I mean, we're going to lose some games. Hey, hey, hey. Don't forget about me, O. Brandon, how far can Doc Rivers take the Bucs this season?

You said they will be playing in May. To the championship. You think championship? The Bucs will be in the finals. The Bucs will be in the NBA finals? Yeah. Stop the cap! Stop it!

Yeah, NBA finals. Okay. Just the rest of the couch? Nobody else is going to be in the finals but my team. And I'm going to be up here sitting up here chilling. Y'all got to pick somebody. Y'all going'all gotta pick somebody Miami again no again proven well you lost to Miami because I agree with you that John has got hurt that's the only reason wasn't hurt though right if you honest don't get her Middleton hurt

don't get hurt price of the coach y'all don't have like y'all don't have the firepower that you had before. Well, we got Pat. Pat is over there. Yeah, you have like Middleton and them is doing better than what Dame is doing.

Offensively. Yeah, so you get Dame, but you lose Middleton. You lose Drew, and you lose Grayson Allen. Yeah, you you get Dame, but you lose Middleton, you lose Drew, and you lose... Grayson Allen. Yeah, you lose more pieces, so it's not like you gained... Like, you didn't gain Dame, right? If Middleton was healthy, then Dame there is like, oh, shit. But Middleton is damn 25% of what he used to be.

So you think we should have made that move, fam? I don't think they... I mean, in hindsight. What move was out there, though? I mean, and not saying like, I mean, come on, Middleton, he's, you know, he's done his, it's crazy. But I just, you know, do you think that wasn't, you think we should have made a move? Middleton for Klay Thompson, straight up. Straight up. Switch it, swap it.

Let's see what happens. Nah, I don't even think, like, Golden State's not even doing that. Why not? Thompson straight up. Straight up. Switch it. Swap it. Let's see what happens. Nah. I don't even think Golden State's not even doing that. Why not? Because they're not healthy enough.

That's just what I think. Do you bring him off the bench? Do you bring him off the bench for a little bit and put in Bobby Portis? Yeah, I would. Beasley not starting already?

I said that. I said Bobby Portis. I said start Bobby Portis. You need Bobby as a sixth man because he's a firepower. He's a microwave. You could take Bobby out early to play with the second unit. That sixth man shit

be overrated as hell to me. When I'm saying it's buckets, I can just keep my starters in. Or not. You can't run them through the wire every game. You got to give them some rest. Okay, on the Lakers.

On the Lakers championship team, who was the sixth man? Rick Fox? Oh, which Laker team? Anyone. Like, who the fuck was the sixth? I thought you were talking about the Bubbles. No, I'm talking about the Lakers with Kobe. Who was the sixth man then?

There was no damn sixth man. Nobody valued it. Who was it? It was Ron Harper. What? What do you have, there's three? Rick started, I think. That's what I'm saying. Who was the six-man in those championships? Bulls, who was the six-man in those first three championships? Kool Coach. No, he came the second thing. He came later. But that's what I'm saying. The six-man is this. That's back then, though. You can't use back then as a reference to what?

I mean, 2000. Now it's important as a sixth man. You need, like, from Lou Williams and them and on, Jamal Crawford and them, Ginobili and them, Jason Terry and them. But those are not championship winners, though. But I'm just saying as far as being a sixth man, you needed that as a team because it's firepower. 16-17 a game off the bench.

You need that. But that's what I'm saying. The six men came into play when they had someone that they didn't. Lamar Odom with the Lakers, according to our chat. Lamar Odom? Off the bench, bro. For some of those. No, whoa, whoa. That's not fucking Lamar Odom with Shaquille O'Neal.

Shut up! Not in the early championship. Chat, shut up. Shut up. 2001 in the early championship. Shut up. Shut up. 2001-2, who was the sixth man? Goddammit, you heard me. Who was the sixth man on the 2005

or 2004 Detroit Pistons? Who was that sixth man? Lindsey Hunt. Who was the sixth man on Boston Celtics championship? Ozy. And how much did he average? Four? Ten. You know, the sixth

man, like the sixth man, like the Ginobili sixth man and those type of sixth men that are valued as sixth men, the reason that they are valued is because they should be starting, but they're tricking the system. So, they're starters because there's a starter that's in front of them that's not actually doing anything. That's with Portis. Portis is

a starter who's in front of him is Middleton. But that's what I'm saying, but Middleton was a better player than Portis. So Portis' six-man role was legit six-man. Right. That was a legit six-man. So if Middleton is not playing very well, putting Portis in makes sense. Yeah. But you know what I mean? But you lose production off your bench because you're putting a guy who...

We got A.J. Green. Shit, to be honest... We got A.J. Green. No, no, what I'm saying is... The dirty... Who's averaging more right now, Middleton or... I think Middleton is.

Okay, then Middleton off the bench would be more firepower in sense Okay, yes, I guess y'all can't correct me on that to know one Robert here we go four points. Yeah, please mr. Fo Just you three niggas get in. You three niggas get in. You, one, two, and three, sub. Sub, nigga.

I can't wait for Robert Ory to pull up. No, I'm just saying, no. No, he's in the San Fernando area. Like I said, it's just weird. Like when you have real legit six men, when you have Lou Williams and you have guys like that, they are actually starters, but the way they play the game is kind of hard to place them. You know what I mean? Like, he's not a one,

he's not a two, so just bring him off the bench and let him come in and just be a guard. You know, that's how that six man role works. You know who else would be a good six man?

Like you just said, Chris. I mean, but I think Clay would be a good six man. Now? Right now. Yeah, now? He's over to a now he's over there like i think if chris middleton take the same i think i saw something clay said about taking a lesson yeah he just said that yeah there was him him or wiggins right now to um cominga yes yeah to come off the like you know it's ain't nothing wrong i mean because you're still gonna do your thing right, it's... Ain't nothing wrong. I mean, because you're still going to do your thing. Right, but it's less pressure on you, too.

Less, yeah. Less pressure. Play against the bench players. Yeah, kill their ass. It's better. Yeah, it's like practice players. Kill their ass. Play against the practice niggas.

All right, well, let's keep this thing moving and shaking. Wimby joined some elite company on Monday night with a rare rookie triple-double. But before we get to the game action, we have to show the fit that Wimby pulled up to the game in. He almost had to do work dressed like that. Now, Brandon, you're a resident fashion expert. How would you describe this look, and are you rolling with it? I'm rolling, for sure.

OPM. See ya. Playboy Cardi. Kanye on that. Yeah, shit. You see, I got all black on, too. I'm not going to wear my mask. Hood. Oh, my God, man.

Shit. So he got his book in his hand. He got his book in his hand. And the Black Air Force, he ready to rob a nigga. Look how little the book looks and look how long. Tough. That's a tough fit. That means business.

Are those dress pants? Gil? Are those dress pants? Huh? No, those are like long jeans. Gil?. Are those dress pants, huh? No those like long jeans No, as we call them now long Let me get them long jeans over there Yeah, what's going on, huh, I'm just

The mask yeah, yeah I'm gonna get you one. I understand why rappers do it because most of them ugly. Who could it be? Talk about it. Oh shit, it's Wimpy. Most of these niggas ugly. Oh, it's you.

Most of the people who come in with a mask, right, they don't know who they are. If Playboy Carty went somewhere without telling the paparazzi, he didn't have no security. No one's going to know who he is, right? I'm pretty sure that if Playboy Carty put on a mask and went somewhere without any jewelry, anything going on with himself to let people know who he is, no one's going to know who he is. Wait, you said without a mask? If he has a mask on and he just walked by.

He just walked. No jewelry or nothing. If he went to 24-Hour Fitness right now. You wouldn't know it was him. Would you know that's Playboy Carti? No fucking way. Fuck yeah. How?

I don't even know what the motherfucker look like now know that's Playboy Carti? No fucking way. Fuck yeah. How? How? I don't even know what the motherfucker look like now. It's just or, or. Huh? Or. So if all, so it's all, so everybody in 24, if everybody in 24 outfits walked in and a dude with a mask on, motherfuckers be like, oh shit, what's up with dude? What's up with dude?

It's just, it's just a certain, trust me, he's not just going to walk in. It's your or, like. What or? He's somebody, like. What or? It's just the way. It's just the way you move. Nobody. It's the way you move. It's just the gonna walk in. It's your aura. What aura? He's somebody. What aura? It's just the way. It's just the way you move. Nobody's going to know.

It's the way you move. It's just the way you move. We know he's Playboy Cardi because half his entourage got Playboy something on it. He got 52 people. We know it's Ye because someone called

the paparazzi on him. We know it's Ye because the girl next to him butt naked. Yep. With a sudden butt naked. Yeah. Right?

That's how we know. Okay, that must be Ye. That's Ye, that gotta be Ye. He gonna have some puffy shit on, all black with the boots on. Yeah, that's Ye. Okay, that's Ye. You put Playboy Carti in with a mask on. It ain't gonna even fit.

And some basketball shorts and a basketball jersey, everybody gonna be like. It ain't gonna fit, you got dreads, it ain't gonna fit. You gonna be able to tell who it is. Who is dude? Right, I mean just I Mean the master the mass thing was cool when certain people did it is like alright But I mean NBA players you wearing masks. I mean only cool in Halloween It's only cool to the rappers Halloween I mean, I get fired up. You're about to stick a nigga up. Stick a nigga up and wear a mask. Stick up, kid.

Viano. Influence. Hey, rappers, y'all influence one NBA player. I can tell you that. I don't know. That influence a lot of them. Well, now let's talk about the actual game and Wimby's impressive performance. Number one overall pick.

Messed around. Dropped a triple-double. Oops, almost. Almost a Wimby game. Y'all fucking up in the back. Western Conference team. Oh, shit, okay, Wimby. You know, Wimby looking.

I think they confused Wimby with Rudy. I mean, it kind of looked the same, though. He wide open. They didn't give his ass the ball. This is Gil's arena presented by the Dolphins. We are human at this show. No, be honest. I thought I thought it was shit he was wide open for the live and it's like wait at Buffalo We got the wimpy somebody said cab, you know what car to be like, how would I know what cardi cardi? Wasn't it look like? Bernie

Okay. Well, we'll just we'll just we'll be out in the chat was like he know what play I don't know. Yeah, I would expect none of y'all to know So when we had only seven points ten rebounds ten block out only 29 minutes a game action first rookie Since David Robinson to record a triple-double with blocks Admiral bit did it back February 23rd 1990 shot. We see you We got a Spurs. No, he got a Wimby jersey. But why? You don't even fuck with Pop. You're like, man, I shout.

Nah. Our resident Spurs adjacent fan. Wimby don't fuck with Pop either. She do. We both don't fuck with Pop. Yes, you do. Snatch, crackle, and pop. Nigga, you get the fuck up out of there.

That Spurs across you, that's pop. Nah. That spurs, that shit around your chest, that's pop. Not no more. You can't say the spurs without pop. This shit say wee-wee. No, that shit says pop. Nigga, this shit say wee-wee.

Nigga, this shit say crepe. Nigga. Nigga, this shit say French fry. Nigga, you hear me? French toast, nigga. French toast. This what we on. No, that's pop.

We triple doubles with blocks, nigga. Huh? Who was the last that did that? The Admiral David Robinson back on February 23, 1990. So another spurt. Excuse me? Excuse me? Are you saying it's a conspiracy, Gil? Another what?

No, I mean... A conspiracy? No, no, a spurt. I mean, 10 blocks for any big... I mean, that's impressive. I mean, to be honest, it didn't even have to be a rookie. That's more impressive. But just getting 10 blocks in a game for any shot blocker is like,

that is, to be honest, that is the triple-double for a guard. And if you got the 10 blocks, you ought to think how many shots did he alter in the bad shots too. And it's in an era where we ain't got the big really in the paint like that. He coming from the top. He guarding on the perimeter. And imagine if he's just down there, like everything you come down here

It's just out of here. That was Hakeem and Shaq They did was push push everybody. That was the deepest I did push everybody us. We good So we got the most blocks in a year Probably be Matumba no Mmm, what's that? No? Because I'm sure like. It probably is going to be Chet.

I mean, it's probably going to be women. It might have been Theo Ratliff though. Mark Eaton had the most blocks in the season, but let me give you the average. That was the funniest. That should be. Mark Eaton was a beast with them blocks. That should be the. Because I think he.

He was beating shit. Get that shit out of here. Five or six. Yeah, he going to lead the league. He going to break some block records. I mean, yeah, because gonna lead the league. He gonna break some block records. I mean, yeah because of will will Will will tell you say it didn't count cuz they didn't they didn't have the set up. Oh, I didn't count it

Locking feels we're not 1973 74 Boy It is that if they did it back if he'd average about 14 14 for career damn blocks blocks So he would have I'm gonna average the most triple so he would have the most triple double records and the most quadruple duple records But they didn't have crazy my girlfriend, but I got it. I got I got it. You do my history on will Well, don't don't don't bro. Don't waste your time.

He played in a year where it was AAU season. Eight teams. They started off with nine teams, and then halfway through the season, they just let one whole team go. Y'all just don't come to the games. No, they're that serious. They don't even come to the game no more.

But it was only eight, ten teams max when them two played. So we have a good Wimby-related Mostly Fans question from Underdog User Streif. He said, do you think Victor Wimbonyama will become the fifth person to record a quadruple double? And if so, how many will he get? Let me just read to you quadruple doubles all time. Nate Thurman had 22-14, rebounds 13 assists, 12 blocks. Alvin Robertson had 20 points, 11 rebounds, 10 assists, and 10 steals.

Kim Olajuwon had 18 points, 16 rebounds, 10 assists, and 11 blocks. And the Admiral had 34 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, and 10 blocks. When we can get it done. Yeah, I think I'm not questioning

is he going to get it done. He's going to get it done. Because he does pass. He does shot block. So, you know, the two categories that he would need, he's very active in it. Right, you know. Just win. What year?

Next year? I mean. Do you think he'll be the first player to get multiple quadruple double. It's only happened once Pretty well, which we don't have the stats for cuz I've said it becomes test of 73 74 Yeah, so no players done it twice. I think he can get I think he'd be the first one to get it twice If they start playing Through him I think that's what I said This year next year

Past that bitch next year cuz he can pass I think next year when the office changes and it's it's his offense Yeah So I could say like in a couple years for sure Because like it doesn't said if if you'll catch if you'llic was a shot blocker and you know had that type of ability He would be doing it. So, you know Easy, but I see him getting steals to know. I was thinking about that too I was like, oh he like he liked this gamble and give me that he gonna have a year that's gone They gonna be look at the numbers like yo, this is crazy 29 minutes though. He did that in 29 minutes.

Boy, they still restricting this man's minutes like that. Bro, that's unbelievable. He going to be in this motherfucker. Looking at him, I'm like, how did he only play 29 minutes? They going to get, listen. I can't wait. They going to get 22 years out of him. No, for sure.

They getting 22 years. Listen. He said they going to get 22 years. Them 65 games, they can say whatever y'all want. They getting 22 years at a young fella. She, y'all crazy as hell. Y'all think, y'all think- I can't wait till he's like four or five years.

Listen, look at Larry Bird, them Larry Bird and Magic years, they get 11, 13. Them days is over. Them days of my superstar playing 11 years, 12 years. No, man. This is a business. I believe it. I'm getting these guys at 19. I'm fucking...

You get 20 years out of these dudes. I believe it. That money, that San Antonio, that jersey, right? 20 years being sold. Do you think that Wimby will stay in that jersey for his entire career? Hell yeah. 20 years.

Not a chance. They give... Not a goddamn chance. They're gonna buy him everything. Not a goddamn chance. He gonna own the rodeo shows and everything. They pay too much money. It's too much money. It's like at some point... Too much money?

I got too much bread, bro. I don't give a fuck about... I need to get out of here. Nah, let me see. Hold on. How you get out of here? New York? Somewhere bigger. New York? Somewhere bigger. New York? That's the only bigger? You got out of here, though. Get the fuck out of here. I doubt it.

You're twice. I doubt it. It's hard, man. Because now it's like, I want to stand alone on my own legacy. Fuck all this Tim Duncan, David Robinson shit. I came in on that. Tim Duncan played 19 years? Rocking Old Navy. Came in at 21.

Because at this point, he got 22 years. He got to play that long to even surpass them. Nah, he don't. Just like even with Luka. I mean, the only thing that's going to stop Wimby

with Tim is the rings early. That's what I'm saying. That's the only thing. That's a big thing, though. That's a big deal. That's a big deal. Five rings. Let's say he don't win, but he played 20 years. It's like, yeah, it's not enough. It wasn't Timmy. Well, how long do you think it's going to take

the Spurs to be competitive? It seems like they're going to start to make some moves to surround Wimby. I mean, they got pieces, though. The thing is, they got pieces. To do what? It just depends on who want to come there. To do what? They got pieces. I mean, they got a bunch of young dudes. It just depends on who want to come there. To do what? They got pieces. No free agents. I mean, they got a bunch of young dudes.

I mean, or just stay with the youngins. Or get rid of Wendy. Let's say you're a point guard looking for a change of scenery. It's going to be a trade. I mean, if they had to get rid of Wimby. They had to. Who? He going to leave.

Bro, they're not getting rid of him. He going to want out. Wimby ain't going nowhere, man. Trade Wimby? Get me out of here. They might as well. All right, I'm going to get you out of here. I'm going to retire. I'm going to retire early. Listen, if they trade Wimby, they might as wimpy get me out of here I'm retired. They say we're gonna get that deal y'all. I'm in Antonio. Yeah, y'all mean it. I'll go back tomorrow I'll go back. Yeah, I'm in here. Oh hey y'all making it. I ain't going nowhere. He ain't that big he ain't y'all big Really? No, y'all mean

Really who would be it's not bigger than Yao. When Yao Ming was playing? I don't know. No, he said, like, big as a star. Like, overall, Yao Ming. China? But that don't equate here. I mean, there's more, I mean, well, there's more Asian, I don't know. I'm making this shit up, right?

I'm just guessing. There's more Asians in America than there. I don't know. I this is I'm making this shit up, right? I'm just guessing there's more Asians in America than there is Frenchman's right? Yep. Okay, so I mean, yeah, but I didn't research that I just made that see this is when I make shit up So we all think I'm just gonna say I'm making shit up right now. I'll just assume that there's more Asians than there are Yeah, so so yeah, I'm pretty sure he would, Yao would be bigger. French toast. French fries. Yao wasn't, bro.

French kiss. See, man, I don't think we, I don't think we, No, no, no, no, no. I don't think we thinking about the time, like when you, like, y'all got Yao

fucking around with me. No, we know, we know Yao was bigger because of this. The players around Yao benefited for Yao. So Steve, for instance. That's how big Yao is.

Okay, so yeah, so Yao was bigger. That's how big China is. That ain't how big Yao is. I mean, here, though, they don't eat quite all of them. I mean, see, they was watching Yao games, what, the next day in the morning. Yep. And still voting. He said the French kiss really made me think, like,

French niggas was getting it in. French niggas do it. I'm just saying. They the romance capital. Listen, that's why I learned to get the word. They went to France and I said, this is how you get the word. This is how you get the word. Romeo and Juliet. Romeo said, you gotta do it like this, nigga. Get the kisser in her mouth.

You got the kisser in her mouth, Brandon. You know that they say the French that they say the French sleep naked. Yeah, you got to start sleeping naked and kiss her in her mouth. That's why you always kiss the work in the mouth. In the club, anywhere, kiss her in the mouth. Do not have people out there doing that. You got to kiss her in the mouth. You said the French sleep naked.

Yes. I sleep naked. Yeah, that's to get the work naked. That's how you get to tell the work early. Listen, baby. I want to make you uncomfortable I'll sleep See make it Vaseline on his feet and If you guys want to know how big or how good Wimby is Listen to the media

talk about him right now. Yeah, we are the media. No, no, no. Not us. We're players. Listen to the media. Right? They're not bashing him. That's how good he is. He's

so good right now that they can't even bash him. All the hype that they were saying, all that hype they was giving him before, if he was playing under their expectations, they would be killing him right now. So the fact that they can't even say, his record is that bad that they can't even use the record

because he is playing so well. That's how good Wimby is that the media don't even want to just, they just pretend he ain't even in the record because he is playing so well. That's how good would be is that the media Don't even want to just they just pretend he ain't even in the league no more. Yeah, it's all potential Yeah, all the potential they can't even say that anymore. They're like, oh shit. He forgot ten block. God. Yeah Shit that's how good he is that the media like the lake You know the Clippers when he was losing all the media was talking shit They winning now. They pretend that it ain't even happening.

Just look at it like that. And they talking crazy about... Cavs, what, 18-1? Hmm? Yeah, 18-1. Cavs, like, 18-1, ain't nobody talking about. We were talking about them on this very show. Yeah, but we...

I mean... But we never talk bad about them. But, yeah, we know you don't rock with Cleveland like that. I do rock with Cleveland. No, you're... No, you're not. I had some of my best games in Cleveland. Busted ass over there. You're out with Cleveland. Nah, nah, you're not. I had some of my best games in Cleve, busted my ass over there. You're out of Cleveland, Milwaukee, and Detroit.

Wait, Cleveland? Cleveland, Milwaukee, and Detroit. Just rank those top three. Cities, what? Yeah, cities. See, the problem is I never went out in any of the cities. So what message is that sending, Gil? No, I mean, I didn't go out of New York City when I played.

Okay, that's fair. So I didn't really go out like that, so... Team around. Like, I don't like Minnesota because during that blizzard, they didn't cut the hot water off, so we had to use the heating pad water, and that was too hot. Hey, Gil. But I'm hot. Hey, Gil.

Stop. Hey, Gil. Hey, Gil, like me, one little thing. Yeah, yeah, just be little. I don't like that. I don't like that. That's dirty-ass water. That's that dirty-ass water?

The heat pad water is dirty now. That heat pad water, yeah, man. We couldn't even take it. You are so scared with that? What I'm saying is it was so cold. They just left the water cold, so we was, and it's a blizzard outside. So I was like, oh, I hate y'all for this. Oh, I hated them for that.

But that, you know, it ain't nothing like the city itself did or the franchise. It's just like little. But, you know, you find a reason to hate teams so you can play better in those cities. For sure. Yeah. Well, let's talk about two of the top teams in the West right now. They faced off in the arena formerly known as Staples Center. Ant-Man and the Timberwolves came to town looking to make a statement.

You may recall the last time that the Clippers and Wolves faced off, the Wolves got the win and Ant gave us this instant classic. Well, the Young Ninjas got another one. The Clippers had no answer for the Wolves' offense, got clamped up by their number one-ranked defense, and doing stuff like that. Look at this thing, bro. It's time to really start to put some respect on the team.

You got to wear his signature shoes in the next two down. Who, Ant? Ant. I gave him a shot. It's hard, though. Yeah, no, no, no, yeah. But... Will just smacking him. Ant deliberately banked in this three-pointer. That put the nail in her coffin.

Ty Lue waved the white flag five minutes ago in the game. Waved the white flag. Said, get your asses the white flag. So get y'all asses out of here So we wait I like him he'll wave the flag in a minute. They are man. Just sit your last Yeah, five me they were down like 24 or five minutes ago getting clamped He knew what it was So Chris Finch has this will squad looking like they are ready to take the next leap this season But gotta ask the couch are the wolves for real or Fugazi? I'm waiting I go I will say they're real the only reason I say they're real because last year Denver did say that out of all the teams

They played their first round matchup against them was their hardest matchup So they played them first round they played the Phoenix Suns the second round, then they played the Lakers, right? And they said Wolves was actually the hardest matchup in that playoff series. So I'm pretty sure that hearing that from those guys gave them a whole different level of confidence. So you can see why they're playing very well this year so dimming the playoffs With the confidence of you know that the champions say we were the hardest matchup Yeah, you know that that kind of you know just as individuals. That's like yeah, we we them Yeah, we knocked the scene for not having a ton of playoff experience, but they have some they know kind of what it takes to

Get there now. They need to figure out what it takes to advance But Rashad are the Timberwolves for real for crazy They have some. They know kind of what it takes to get there. Now they need to figure out what it takes to advance. But Rashad, are the Timberwolves for real or for crazy? I mean, I got the Boston Celtics, Luca, Wimby, and Ant-Man. Those are your thoughts? Wait, wait, wait. Say that again. People don't understand how players do that. I can't even say I fuck with Timberwolves,

but Ant-Man is my guy, Luca my guy, Wimby my guy, and the boss of Celtics. I think all those players are like that, though. We got our, like, yo, I only, I fuck with Golden State because of Steph. I mean, you know, Lakers because of, and it's like, you know. But you're not watching a Warriors game

if Steph's not playing No, are you turning the channel when he gets subbed up? Will you watch tell you? That's like shit like a man. He's just so down. Yeah, y'all niggas is when Damon Giannis. Yep. All right You ain't watching his pad on there and I said your man's pet Sometimes like like sometimes it just depends but in the first quarter I got us I got to go back and forth but I'm waiting though for Minnesota though like I'm gonna wait to the playoffs but I like what uh what

Ant-Man is like would become a certain way he's whoo well I can't wait to see him in the playoffs and I can't wait to see okay see I say yeah I mean just to answer the question they not not fool gays. They, he starting to be a leader. He's turning the corner. If the big fellas can do what they need to do to keep doing what they doing, I mean, they got a chance. Mike Conley, keep the motherfucking boat steady.

Cool. McDaniels keep playing his defense out there. They got a solid, solid team. Has, has Michael Conley, I'm pretty sure he still hasn't gotten a technical foul yet. Mm-mm. Oh, he got one. I thought he got one... But it was...

...like last year. Doing what, though? Recently, but it was... It wasn't like a tech-tech. It was one of them Fugazi ones. Like after a foul take, like a... Yeah, no, I don't... Yeah, let me see. He still has it?

He might still, yeah, he might still. Still be tech free? Damn. He got to really earn that one. I think he will. I mean, to be honest, man, that is so impressive. You know, like I know like people don't realize. That's impressive that you understand, one, you understand the ability that whatever a ref whatever called a reference gonna make they're not gonna change it

So arguing with them is pointless, but still But still be in real time and a real emotion Emotion for game to be emotionalist, you know, that's a that's the gift of just someone who's always mindful in control of his emotions. To not have a championship is just like that. If I want someone to win a championship, it's a dude like that because it's the gold standard of emotions that for the most of us, we haven't really grasped that. Like right now, if him and his wife get a divorce, it's her fault. Because there ain't nothing he can do.

He ain't do nothing because we already know through the worst environments of a court, he's never lost his cool. It's passion, though. Passion is the difference between emotion right so you say the passion is what gets us to go over the line to actually get a technical foul because we're passionate about that reaction yeah right but the emotions you you can control that emotion you can say i gotta control my controllables the ref gonna call what he gonna call and i'm gonna deal with whatever he call. But at some point, it's a sneeze.

That's a reaction. When I, fuck, I dunk on the motherfucker. Ah! Like, he don't have that passion in his game because he don't play like he never played like that with that type of passion. But the emotion side, he can cut it off because he knows the, what we call it, the ethics behind the game.

The hard hat, blue collar shit, you know what I'm saying? Where you're known for being a guy that's not going to say shit, even kill. I'm cool. I mean, he going to call what he call, man. Y'all relax. But we more players, we got some passion. That's a fucking cheating ass call. We're going to say some shit.

It's the passion cheating ass call. We're gonna say some shit. Mm-hmm. He It's a passion behind the game. So if he get divorced, it's cuz my wife said you ain't got no passion for mine But zero career tech zero career Jack my account what do you think he's saying his head though? Do you think he's letting it all out there? Nah, I just you know, I like I played with him I mean like, you know when you're talking about somebody who's always fully in Control of the game, right? He don't get rattled Right, like you can say whatever you want to him. Don't bother him the like, you know Like when you need a big stop or you know any big moment a big stop a big shot you know he's he doesn't go high he doesn't go low right it's like when you're when you're trying to

create the the perfect the perfect not player but the perfect mind to go into a situation right nothing phases him like if you put him into like if I want him Not player, but the perfect mind to go into a situation, right? Nothing phases him. Like if you put him into, like if I want him as a cop in today's world, right? That means no matter what's going on and, you know, you get out of the car, you know, like, you know, pull over, you get out of the car, you start reaching. He's not the type of mind that reacts, right? And say, oh oh I was scared for my life. It's he doesn't fall under that He's he's like the perfect Soldier when it comes he's about a book he's doing everything about this, you know shit gonna happen during the game They don't have a run. I'm he's one of those they're gonna have a run

We're gonna have a run refs gonna make some bad calls. They're gonna make some good calls, right? So there's no point even getting out of ourselves on stuff that's just part of the game. I'm going to make shots. I'm going to make shots. I'm going to make a layup. I'm going to miss a layup.

And that's the mindset that he has, and it's just that that is the point guard on that Wolves team. So, you know what I mean? Like, if I had to put someone in the Western Conference

finals besides my Lakers, I'll say Wolves versus Denver. Wolves fans, if you're watching this, please take notes. If you would like to support the show, download the Underdog Fantasy app. Use promo code GIL. We'll match your first deposit up to $100. I think Gil so eloquently put it. Show your love.

Supporting the Wolves, but support us. Let's talk about Ant real quick. He did get caught on the wrong side of a highlight reel though. Mm-hm, mm-hm. I know we all saw this. Paul George made a touch with this crossover. We got another angle of it. Okay, see on that angle.

Uh-uh, uh-uh. Cut it to this leader. He said uh-uh. Uh-uh, uh-uh. Cut it to this leader. Uh-uh, uh-uh. So let me ask the couch, did Ant get caught slipping or get caught tripping? Yeah, it looked like he tripped on- Be fair, be fair. Got his ass. Looked like he got tripped.

That's what it is. That's what you tripping over your own feet. You're tripping over the defender. You're tripping over the floor, the line, whatever you want to call. You hit IRF. It counts. IRF. No.

IRF. Hit IRF. No, hitting IRF is what Steph did to CP on the baseline. That's it. That's IRF. That's part of IRF. That's hitting IRF. That's without touching nobody's feet.

Yeah, that's me touching nobody. That's slipping. That's her that's part of that's that's an earth nobody's feet. Yeah, that's Flippin that's yeah, hey getting dunked on has different levels of getting dunked on right, you know body to body you watched it He can't you yeah, there's some a you got caught like this, right? You had to help got caught there's a hope but you still got dunked on he still got his ass No, he got sure if he got tripped until highlight he got tripped. He got tripped. Into a highlight. He got tripped. I mean, if y'all want to call that a highlight. Hell yeah.

All right. I've seen niggas get dropped. I mean, you know, people get dropped. Definitely seen some niggas get dropped. I've seen niggas just get... I ain't even bite. They ain't even touch you. What you doing? None of that.

You going, baby girl? It happens, but I'm just saying that falls under the category. He touched pavement. Yeah, we call that sniper. You get sniped. Pew, pew, pew. So what's the worst crossover somebody hit you with and what's the worst crossover you've seen somebody?

I got dropped. ABCD camp by Corey Fisher. All-star game. Damn. I was slipping. I was like, you know, you sleep you be like Like one of them And we in New York so it's like it ain't no no la no la people back Oh, I'm just sitting here like ABCD can't be coming. I'm like I was salty the whole time

But maybe it's better wasn't in LA so that's people true Like did it hit the internet? You might be able to find it. Okay, but I'm saying it's not It had been done by another back up later been I got that. Yeah, Corey Fisher dropped me bad So what's the worst crossover somebody hit you with? Man, I stay away from them shits. Yeah. Because he wasn't guarding. He don't play day.

I was undroppable too. Or I was locking niggas up, like I said. You would never lock. Like I said. You would never lock. Like I said. He wasn't locking nobody. I would turn that motherfucking shit off.

Nobody. Just like he say he's outside doing them A1 moves, remember? He say he was working on that shit. Rashad did show us a solid A1 style move though. You don't have to remind him. He know. He know. He know so much. He know so much. He said he was working on that shit. Rashad did show us a solid A1 style. You don't have to remind him.

He know. He know. He can fall victim to that shit. Someone said, I mock that shit up and I'll break his neck. Someone said, your whole highlight reel of... One, two. One, two. Three.

They ain't show you what happens out here in Hacks and 360. They ain't show you them highlights. They don't bring the cameras in there. Yeah. Where Dreamkiller show up. They don't bring the cameras in there for them. They don't show you that shit, that bullshit. Yeah.

I don't like them highlights either. Yeah, but see Dreamkiller work. Mm-hmm. Yeah, go and see. A lot of niggas won't say nothing, won't be nothing. You can move on to Gilbert now. Oh, I remember. You never even crossed over. You won't say nothing, won't be nothing. You can move on to Gilbert now. Oh, I remember.

You never been crossed over. You didn't say crossed over. You said dropped. What's the worst cross somebody hit you with was the question. I didn't say dropped. I mean, oh, I mean, something regular. Because, I mean, you know. No, it was something.

That face. No, no, no. He already got the face. No, no, what I'm saying something. That face. He already got the face. Go ahead. Who is the hardest person to crossover? Someone who don't play defense. We ain't going for none, right? You're not putting your thumb in that position.

Oh, shit. Help. You're right. Right? It's hard. The laziest defender is the hardest one to cross over because they're not being shifted by the move because they just want you to go by them.

Yep. I hate playing against things I don't like to play in on D. Right? The defense of players is the easiest ones because you're trying to beat me to the spot. Right? I'm like, all right, that's why I said Pat Bevin would be the easiest person to cross over

because you're trying to beat me to the arm. So, there you go. Get out of here. be the easiest person to cross over because you're trying to beat me there I'm so if I pop there you go get out of here. Mm-hmm You know like a cross of even when even with someone who reaches all the time He's hard to cross over because he's reaching at everything Right. So it's like In like and you got to shorten it up because he's gonna sit here swipe at it and shit like that So that don't look bad. I'm hustling them them and people who going hard Slapping the flow is shit. Oh, let's see hunters. Yeah

Bro, I think we'll court like the B's right there. Oh, but the well bind them Go real hard real fast. Yep. Yeah. Yeah when you got to go to your calories, you know They're gonna make you go to your counter you like okay finally I can cross this Cuz you gonna try to bite on that Like what Jordan and AI the reason that looked bad is because Jordan was trying to stick them. Yeah, Gary Payton in white chocolate Got him stalled. Shit. He was so bad. Yeah, he tried to stalled. You motherfucker. Hey, anything other than that, Achilles gone. You trying to move this one? Gone. Oh, my Lord.

All you can do is stop. Oh, motherfucker. I'm out of there. But that's what it is. Oh, shit. Those type of defenders that really have a knack for it. It's, you get them out of there. Like, Jamal, like, think about all Jamal Crawford moves.

They're trying to overplay everything, trying to beat him over the screen. He's like, yeah, yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh. Sike, come back, oh, oh. Snatch back. Steve Francis, makes you master that motherfucker. Yeah, what's his name from the Clippers, who was that? Nigga Troy Hudson.

Troy Hudson, oh. Troy Hudson, yeah. When he did Troy, I've never seen nobody get that type of one-on-one. Point at the ref. AD. Or whoever he was. Antonio Daniels, though. That game.

That fight. He's a arena. He's a arena. Get his face back. Come here. Come back. He's a arena. He says arena.

He says arena. He says arena. He says arena. He says arena. He says arena. He says arena. He says arena. He says arena.

The funny part is, you know that's all they did on the bench. Ole! That's what I said. You couldn't get cross on our team because the locker room after that is, yo. They were sitting there after the game like, as soon as you walk by. That's funny. I hope he don't see this. I don't want to remind him of what we used to do. He going to see this, he probably just want to see you,

he'll see one of us and then we'll have to deal with the smoke like we had to deal with the We all got to deal with Gil. He know we immature. He know we immature. He know we immature. Use a conversation. He said he know we immature. Alright're immature? You're immature, my nigga. AD. Yeah, use a compensator now.

He said he know we immature. Shit. All right, well, let us proceed. In one of the more weirder uses of AI, the technology, not the Hall of Fame guard, a TikToker by the name of Chris Monroe84 dropped this video recently, gentrifying some of the greatest hoopers to show what they would look like if they were white. And they wouldn't be the greatest hoopers. We got Michael Jordan. What? To show what they would look like if they were white Can anyone be the greatest Hoopers?

We got Michael Jordan Yo what I was gonna say about Scottie images yo, yep magic Now you can't make Kobe white that That's Gord, yeah. Yo. Look, we got Bron. No. Look like Gigi Cotone. James Hardovich. They got overseas.

Durant? That Durant is nuts. That, yeah, that's... Damn. They looking like Steve Kerr, man. They looking like Steve Kerr. Kyrie looking like Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, yeah.

Dennis? Dennis Rodman. But last but not least, Larry Bird. Why Larry? Damn. The boy. The boy. The boy. The Rodgers, yeah. Dennis? Dennis Rodman. But last but not least, Larry Bird. White Larry? Damn.

Black Larry is crazy. That black Larry was crazy. And that's Scottie Pippen, man. Bro, stop. I mean, AI don't need to be used for everything, ladies and gentlemen. I mean, that's what AI is good for, just, you know, wishing that these players... Black. I mean, wishing these black players were white. I'm pretty sure that's an American dream right there.

I mean, it's such an American dream that they started using European as American white just to keep up. Because the last great white hope was John Stockton. That's the youngest top five white American player, John Stockton. So here at Gil's Arena. Just to let you know. Here at Gil's Arena, we love a good barbershop debate, and there are going to be some caveats and rules based on what you just said, Gil. And with that in mind, we got a Mostly Fans question from UnderdogUser. Look, it's me, 59.

Look, it's me, 59. We have seen you spamming the chat for the last two months with this question. We're going to get you your $50. Same question for two months? He's been going hard. Okay. She's about to be old as fuck. Damn. So, can an all-time white NBA team beat an all-black

current NBA team? He said his all-white NBA team is Stockton, Luka, Lennonburg, Newiskey, and Jokic. Gone, right? So I'm sorry, dude. Let me tell you who your all-white team is. Here we go. You got Larry, the number one.

McKeel. Number two would be Jerry West. Number three, John Stockton. Number four, Bob Pettit. Number five was... Bill Walton. Pistol Pete. Pistol Pete.

That's a bunch of guards, though. So you're not... Right, but he says... Top five. This is your top five. These are the best five white folks you got. Yeah, but you got to go by position. So go by position, then you're going to go... John Stockton at the one, number two, Jerry West,

three, Larry Bird, four, you have Kevin McHale, five, you will have Bill Walton. What about George Mikan, dude? George Mikan? The Mikan deal? George Mikan. George Mikan. Shot 39% and he's the biggest dude in the world. The D was like that back then, dude. And we didn't do no bullshit ass layup. He had goggles

Yeah, bullshit ass lay a goggles. He had goggles So that that would be so that will be the best that would be the best starting five American white folks can put together but he didn't say he said all-time white so white no that like you did you know? Yeah, why did not ain't said African black. Let me just. Damn. Yeah, let me just. Damn.

African black. Yeah, man. Like, let me just go overseas and go get some niggas. Like, okay. Let me just. Black. Just so people know, if y'all want to point out. NBA.

When they want to point out Europeans, have they noticed the European, when Steve Nash was playing, he wasn't considered white? When Dirk Nowinski was playing, he wasn't considered white at that time? He's from the fatherland. What I'm saying is they wasn't considered that then, right? He's from the fatherland what I'm saying is they wasn't considered that then yeah, right? He's Aryan I'm just what I'm saying is it wasn't considered wasn't he wasn't part of the conversation He was compartment was part of the conversation as a European player. Yeah, right so eventually when you know them They haven't been looking so good lately. They try to add them in so

Europeans have their own list who was the best European player? But Steve Nash would be considered an American. He's Canadian. A North American. Because he's not European. He's a North American. But he's not European. But they didn't have him as American. But I get what you're saying. Yeah, they wouldn't claim it out, so no. We're not going to let y'all get the Lucas or nothing.

You can't do that now. So the question is no. No. Hell not even close. The question is hell no. They got a chance. We can't even... What if we... NBA Cares expanded our board. You saying John Stockton... Larry the Legend on the team.

John Stockton... Jerry West. A 10 inch vertical. Jerry West, 2 inch vertical. Larry Bird, 1 inch vertical. Court vision though. Court vision.. Um... Court vision.

Great path to be on. They got a chance. It's gonna look like that movie... What's that movie? Mannequin! The Chariot Tower, when he was... We're black, they're white. What movie is that movie for?

I forgot what movie that is. That movie's hilarious. Man, we ain't even putting our stars on that movie. They got a chance, man. Yeah, they got a chance. They got... They got a chance. They got a chance, man. Yeah, they got a chance. They got... They got a chance. Hey, they got a chance.

They got to bring Chuck Hogan to the... Yeah, Chet. You know what I mean? That's a Chet. Kevin Love, come off the bench. Kevin Love, yeah. They got a Kevin Love, Gordon Haywood, you know, Cal Corvert. Tyler Hero.

Yeah, Tyler Hero. Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves, yeah. That's all right. Good luck. Chandler Parsons. If we pick our five, you know who's coming right off that bench?

Chandler. J.J. Redick. Bryn Berry. J.J., you're going to leave J.J.? Go get them all. J.J. Redick for three? That's 18. Come on, man.

J.J.? Mm-hmm. Hey, hey. Is this a horrible take? Uh-oh, Gil. Just think about it. We are trying to get it under our fantasy belt. No, no.

They got George Mirosan, too. Is Luka... Is Luka Dantzic right now the best Euro player ever at 23 years old? Because Dirk would have been number one, right? And if, like, J.K. said he's better than Dirk right now, would he be considered the best Euro player ever?

Right now. Yep. I mean, fuck, right? I mean, fuck. I don't know no other one. You know anyone? But what's the criteria? Are we talking skills?

Are we talking potential? Giannis is European? I didn't even know that. What are you including as European? You got Joker, you got Giannis? Europe. It's got to be Europe. So Jokic?

Jokic, Duka, Rubio, all of those in Europe. It would be either Jokic or Ginobili. No, Ginobili is Argentinian, if I'm not mistaken. You can throw him. That's not Europe. Yeah, I'm not. I mean, the fact is. You're talking about just Europeans, Germany, France.

How about just Caucasian? How about this? Just make it Caucas How about just Caucasian? How about this? Just make it Caucasian international. Caucasian international. Is he the best right now? Yeah. Emer Jokic? No, I think he's better than Jokic.

Man, that motherfucker. Skillset. Because, I mean, his resume from on up is crazy. I ain't thinking about that. I'm just thinking about what he'd be doing on that court. I mean, but that EuroLeague MVP is a big thing, man, at a young age. I know, but the European game at 19, 20 years old, getting your EuroLeague MVP is huge.

I think he was 18. Oh, 18. That's huge. I think it wasn't Pat Bev, a EuroLeague MVP? At 18? Not at 18. Pat Bev, he still was over there. He still won MVP, I think.

But when he's over there, all the players are over there. But that criteria of MVP wasn't really about... It was like you could average 15, 6, and 6. Pat Baird was a Euro Cup MVP, not Euro League. Okay, Euro Cup. Yeah, but that shit that he... We got to remember, Luka was playing against Russ at, what, 17? 13.

Like 13? Was that 13? That pitcher with Russ? No, no. When he played against Boston, wasn't he – how old was he when he played against Boston that year? 15? No.

I don't know. 16. No. 16. 16. Because he was in the league at 18. So when he played against Boston that year, he came in at the last minute of the game.

He was 16, 17 he was. I league at 18, so when he played against Boston that year, he came in at the last minute of the game. He was 16, 17, he was. I remember. He was young. I mean, so, I mean, even, like, just the way he is right now, let's say Jokic is in front of him, 16, so even though Jokic is in front of him right now because of the back-to-back NDPs and all that stuff, by the time Luka's done, because of where he is in age compared to yokich he will probably go down as the greatest euro yeah yeah yeah i see what you're saying yeah look against

the southeast when he was 16 that's like ricky rubio playing in the olympics at uh shit i remember ricky rubio was playing the olympics in 08 i was on my way to europe like i gotta play against this so let's expand the conversation now. Luka, 24, about to be 25 years old, already with this level of accolades. If we bring Wimby

into the fold, what does Wimby need to do in these next five years to even get in the conversation with Luka, let alone talking about broader GOAT debate? Just, I mean,

just being just dominant. I mean, but shit, you know what I mean? I think he's in the conversation. Yeah. I mean, at that age dominant. I mean. But shit. You know what I'm saying? I think he's in the conversation. Yeah. At that age. I think what you said, like, you gotta just be, he gotta be dominant like Shaq.

Yeah, just his dominance. Like, he gotta be dominant. Yeah, he do. His dominance of his game. Yeah, he do. He's averaging, what, 19 right now? This game is. I mean, shit, he can be, I mean, I'm pretty sure next year

he'd be anywhere at the 25 to 27 a game. It's highlights at this point. It's the highlights. Whitby's averaging 20, 10, 3.2 blocks.

20, 10? 20, 10 and 3.2 blocks. Oh, is he averaging 27 next year? Think about it. For sure. So if you take the numbers out, you say,

all right, the numbers gonna be inflate they self. The numbers gonna do what they do. Inside those numbers, they can't be boring numbers like Tim Duncan numbers for him to be over the top. But he ain't going to be boring. That's what I'm saying. So his highlights is going to take him over the top. What he does with them points, what he does with them rebounds and blocks, like the 10 blocks, how

he was blocking that shit. You know what I'm saying? It's like, okay, this nigga's called. Yeah, you say 27, I think like, Wimby could be in the 30 range, just depending. I know, I know, that's what I'm saying. So Luka averaged what? His first, that first year? 21 points.

21 points? I mean, yeah, 21 points, and then he jumped up to 28 the following year, so it all depends on where he finishes this year. He's got to be dominant like Shaq. But that big? He's got to be blatant. He's going to have to.

Because we're seeing he's going to have to stand out in a different way. Nobody can do that shit that Shaq can do. But if you're dropping a 10-block triple-double. In his game, how he plays the game, he has to be dominant in how he plays. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

He's got to be dominant. It ain't Shaq dominant. I'm not saying like that. It has to be known. Some crazy shit. It's not even... But you got a 7'4 dude shooting one-legged three-pointers.

That's already set you apart. That's already set you apart. But we got to keep doing it then. But my point is now, as he gets more comfortable in the league, if he's able to do that consistently, he's not knocking down three to four threes a game with everything else he's doing. I mean, it's just – Just how smooth it looks, bro.

Just the way he does it. That's what I'm – I'm saying the way he does it, it looks like Steph in a 7'5 body. Like it's an upper body, lower body thing. Like who's up there? Steph up there doing this shit. Like men in black. It just needs to be something to where it's like in this era where it's like,

what the fuck? Like it needs to be that. Are you not seeing that already though? I guess is the question. No, no. Yeah. But I'm just saying in the next three, four or five years, like it needs to be just blatant.

Like, yo, this is something we've never seen before. For sure. Like Braun. You got to be dominant. Like what? Like Braun. You've got to be dominant. Like what? Like Braun. We'll never see nothing like Braun again. Or Steph.

We'll see another Steph. No, we won't see another Steph because, no. The only reason we'll see another Steph is because he still is an average man compared to everything else we see in the NBA. I mean, I'm just going by that. Okay, because like Mike. Like Mike is the average. Mike who? Mike with George.

Like I'm saying the height. No, I'm just talking about the motor itself. Well, Kobe. But I'm saying the motor itself, right? So when we're talking about Mike, that motor itself, six, six big hands, 48-inch vertical, right? It's hard to cope 38-inch vertical, small hands. Yeah, but what I'm saying is it's the closest thing that we've ever seen to Mike.

What I'm saying, as a player, I'm just saying we can't mimic Michael Jordan's body, right? We can't mimic Shaquille O'Neal's body. Or LeBron's. We can't mimic LeBron's body. We can mimic Kobe's. Okay. You know what I mean? We can mimic 6'3", 32 inch vertical.

You know what I mean? We can mimic the body itself. But to be the next Stephan shooting, to be the next Stephan, just shooting itself, that shit has to start at 10 years old. That's a 10, you have to be doing what you're doing to be the next Stephan at 10, right? Taking 200, 300 shots a day at 10. Trey Young.

Going forward, right? That ain't wait till I get to the NBA, I'm gonna turn it over to that. Right, right, right, right. You know what I mean? That's, no. Trey Young. Going forward, right? That ain't wait till I get to the NBA, I'm going to turn it over to Steph. Right, right, right. Do you know what I mean? Trey Young. No. Trey Young.

No. Even though Trey Young... I love Trey Young, but they're not fucking with him. They're not even getting... You know the problem with Trey Young? He doesn't... Like, even though he shoots it like Steph, he doesn't shoot as many threes as Steph did So he's not gonna break the record or get close to it because he don't shoot that many

I mean remember Steph took 20 something what 23 threes one game. Yeah, then he just do it But that's the Kirby's not doing I mean, uh, try young not taking 20 the offense ain't off You got the ball in your hand you can see what that man's man. You got the ball your hands Oh, no, no, ain't no office. Eve courage your coach. You can shoot whatever the fuck you want. No. No, ain't no offense. Steve Kerr's your coach. He's a punk-ass nigga. And you can walk all over him. I shoot when I want.

I do what I want. It's my team. You think Steve Kerr a punk? It's my team. Steve Kerr ain't no punk. Yes. Steve Kerr ain't no punk. No, just as the players.

Yes. He ain't no punk. Steve Kerr ain't no punk. No. Trey Young offense is just different. No. There's two different people. What is Steve Kerr's first philosophy was implemented where?

His offense? Phoenix. The whole mindset that was passed down to D'Antonio. Yeah, we cool with this. Shoot, shoot, shoot. Shoot, shoot, shoot. All right. Then he went to Golden State.

Shoot, shoot, shoot. We need a player that's like Steve that can shoot, shoot, shoot. Initiate. Shoot, shoot, shoot. Shoot, shoot, shoot. All right. Then he went to Golden State. Shoot, shoot, shoot. We need a player that's like Steve that can shoot, shoot, shoot. Initiate, shoot, shoot, shoot. All right. We got two. A player like Steve? Steve Nash.

But Steve Nash didn't shoot that many threes. Exactly, because he put players around him that could. So he can give them the ball. Shoot, shoot, shoot. Shoot, shoot, shoot. Now you got Steph and Klay. Shoot, shoot, shoot. Shoot, shoot, shoot.

Trae Young don't got that. Trae Young don't shoot like. Trae Young don't shoot like that. But he would if he had that type of atmosphere. No, because that's why he averaged 10 assists. Because the system he's in is to get the other players involved. It ain't just shoot, shoot,

shoot. He shoots them when he's available, when he can, when he open, when they're not doubling him. No, what I'm saying is if Trae Young mentally wanted to shoot 23s, he could because that's how he plays. He don't physically play like he can when he opened when they're not doubling them no what i'm saying is if trey young if trey young mentally wanted to shoot 23s he could because that's how he but he don't physically play like that because he's a basketball player yes that's that's what i'm saying it has nothing to do with the offense it's trey young himself is more real rounded as a basketball player than so he's gonna go get to the basket he's's going to get fouled. Like, you would never hear Trey Young's team complain about not,

because Trey Young goes to the hole. He does that. So his game is just built a little different. So he's not going to sit there and just shoot a bunch of threes. That's what I'm saying. So if he was in an offense where it required him to. He won't. No.

He would. He won't. No, I don't even think it's by requirement. I think it's just who you are. Like, we were talking about that shit with BD. Like, K you are. Like, we were talking about that shit with BD. Like KD played there. We were talking about that shit with BD, though. We were saying, like, how if we would play, like, we would average. Our goal is to go out there and go get

15 and 7. Your goal is to go out there and get what? 30. 30. So it's just a different mind. It don't matter. Even you can put me in the same office as Gil. I'm still going to play the same way I know how to play because that's just how I play. Remember, I tell you, if I move you off the ball and say you're coming off these screens to shoot this bitch, you're shooting it. Every time.

I'm still going to play. If it's there, I'm still going to play my game. My offense was Princeton. The same offense Mike Bibby had, the same offense Jason Kidd had. We're in the same offense. We're doing the same exact plays. We're different players. You. We're doing the same exact plays. We're different players You had different abilities. Yes, they have different abilities. We're talking about two players who have the same

No, they have different abilities, but they have the same ability Different was the ability shooting the three is their ability, but that's now you said we're saying abilities and ability I'm saying the ability that they have in common is shooting that bitch. Take Trae Young off the ball, and you have him coming off screens like Steph, that motherfucker's putting that bitch up. Not every time. He's still going to come and he's still going to want to come score. Steph is not just bringing it down and coming off and just shooting that bitch.

Steph goes to the bucket. He does go to the bucket. Who goes to the bucket more? If you put Trae Young in Golden State offense, Trae Young will have, he will average 10 free throws a game. No. Because he's going to take advantage of the open lane. Just like Kevin Durant was in there.

Kevin Durant didn't sit there and shoot a whole bunch of threes. Bro, I'm telling you, bro, I'm telling you. He stuck to his mitts. What you're saying is Steph is not taking advantage of the things that are wide open for him? No, Steph is a shooter. Steph has never... The way Steph is playing now, he's been playing like that. That's what I'm saying. That's his game.

Trey can play the same way. He can, but he don't. Gil played the same way his whole... High school, everything, right? Same way. I don't care if I'm in a prison, I'm still going to score this motherfucker. It don't matter.

That's just my mindset. He still has the ability to adapt that. A lot of players have the ability to do it. They just don't. That's just not their... He didn't have to. No. He didn't ever have to adapt his game

because it was part of his DNA. Look, I'm doing the thing that I do best, the thing that I do most. Everybody has to adapt their game. But if someone else came into the Wizards and said, like, you got to do more of this. Remember, I think it was that last year you said Flip wanted to pass more and consider it,

and he thought about it. Like, I thought about it, and I'm like, but then who's going to do what I do? Who's going to do what I do if I do this shit for you, Flip? Who's going to do what I do? No one can do what I do. So why would I do anything else other than do what I do best? Do this the best.

And that's what Trae Young does, do the best. But if he had an opportunity to do. He has an opportunity to shoot 43s whenever he wants. He don't. Yes, he does. He just doesn't play like that. Because he's the only guy on his team.

He's the only guy. If he had other options like Steph had, he would do more. He would do. You're talking about more is what he does. He does more than

Steph now. Mm-mm. He passes more. More, he does more. Because he has to utilize the offset of the guys that are not as good, like Klay and Dre and Wiggins and all the other. He has to try to make those guys good.

He got to try to make players. If he didn't have that pressure on him, he would shoot more. He don't want, but that's what he's, he's not, Trae Young is not trying to sit and shoot 23s or 10-3s. That's not his game. He can shoot. He uses his shot to get to the basket. You're going to pump fake. I'm going to go. Same thing with KD. KD can shoot the shit out the three, but he's not going to waste his time just chucking

a bunch of threes up. I don't think Steph actually wants to do the shit. I think three is more than two, and that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to keep my team in the game. I think Steph do want to do that shit. Like Reggie Miller. Like, that's what he did. Reggie Miller's more than two. I think niggas do want to shoot threes. You saw that three he shot against Indiana with them two niggas in front? He can. Because I can do it.

No conscience. I'm good at this. No conscience. All right, listen. That's what I do. You guys have mentioned earlier Wimby having the potential to be Shaq in terms of dominance, not the exact same, but let's talk a little bit about Shaq. Shaq today is getting his magic jersey retired.

Oh, shit. In his four seasons in Orlando, he averaged 27 points, close to 13 rebounds, three blocks, nearly 300 games. Now, we love Shaq around these parts, so just want to go around the couch. What's your favorite Shaq memory? I know the only memory I have is as an Orlando is when he did that commercial

and he hit the fucking Penny doll off the couch. Ooh, that irritated me as a Penny fan. Ooh, don't you do that to little Penny. What'd you do that for? Don't you do that to little Penny. Because I was a big Orlando Magic fan at the time. So I remember when I seen that commercial, I was like, oh, I don't like him. Wait, you said you smacked Lil' Penny?

Yeah, it was like they were going like as a kid. I think they were going through like a little beef thing. And then it was like in one of his commercials, he had like the penny doll over there. He kind of like hit it out. Damn. You know that that Chris like being getting smashed Damn Chris I couldn't help it. No big gives left. That's crazy Well, this is the one you're- I don't know, I gotta see it. There it is.

Oh, he just elbowed you. It don't matter. You don't elbow a little pity, put pity with the glasses on and shit, have him looking like Steve Urkel. Shout out to your little wife. I mean, honestly, I don't really have any Shaq memories in Orlando, Jersey. What? Because I was young. I was- Breaking the have any Shaq memories in Orlando, Jersey. Because I was young. Breaking the Rams?

What? I was five years old. That was the question? In Orlando? No, just favorite straight marriage. I mean, but I know he's getting his jersey retired. I think just me with Shaq is when Kobe crossed the Portland one and threw the lob and he was pointing at his son and stuff. That was a dope moment.

Big moment for Shaq. You know, for the lakers i mean i think it's opportunity to give shack his flowers i have so many different shack moments he's probably my favorite player outside of ai vince and co like i used to pretend i'm shack because we used to play on the eight foot goal and i used to just dunk every fucking thing. And Shaq Fu. Shaq Fu. Fu Schnickens. Kazam.

Kazam. Great movie. We're talking like Shaq was everything from the shoes to the animations that he had and then carrying over, I remember we were playing The Heat and I heard Every Day is Hustlin'. I thought that was Shaq, because the first time they played it, we was playing against them.

I'm like, who the fuck is that? Is that Shaq on there? I was like, that's Shaq up there. He's like, that shit hard. That shit hard. It was like, that ain't Shaq. That's Rick Ross. That's Baby Shaq.

And it was a disappointment at the time, because I was like, that's a hit, right? But Shaq, he always used to come to half court. We used to play around. And he used to always bet me because I used to always shoot from almost half. He's like, bet it. Bet it. $10,000. Oh, my God.

$10,000. Bet it. And I would hit that shit. Did he ever pay you? Hell no. Oh, I know. I know. He owe me $10,000 still, too.

Shaq owes you $10,000? Yes. Yes. That infamous All-Star weekend, Vegas, and I dunked off the trampoline. With the Elvis's. Shaq. I bet you $10,000 you won't go and do it.

$10,000? Bet. Had my goofy ass up there. I got 10. The big Aristotle, man. Shaq, if you're watching this, send gifts, some Papa John's coupons, some general auto insurance. You know what the best thing Shaq did

for just the game itself? Besides the game itself on court, just having a personality outside of hoop. You're talking about a guy who was above life and just to show the personality that he had and succeeded with it. So when you talk about guys today, having personalities being

figures outside the NBA, showing their personalities, smile outside the NBA, showing their personalities, smile, the joking. It all stems from Shaquille. I think Shaq's impact on L.A., too. I'll just tell a quick story. I think it was the year he went to the Heat, but he came back, I think, around Christmastime.

Saw him at the Fox Hills Mall just rolling around. But he was present. You see him on the freeway in one of his various custom whips. We got to go back, though. Neon Bordeaux. Blue Chips, great film. Let me tell you something about life.

If you was 94, fourth grade, fifth grade, Neon Bordeaux, Blue Chips, Shaq, shit. You don't know nothing about no motherfucking basketball. You don't know nothing about no Shaq. You don't know nothing about Shaq, shit. You don't know nothing about no motherfucking basketball. You don't know nothing about no Shaq. You don't know nothing about Shaq, nigga, what? Shaq, Penny, what a great movie. I know. Shout out Ron Shelton.

Talking about Kobe, how my ass tastes. See, that's why he's... Shaq, you're different. You're a different motherfucker. I ain't gonna lie, that was funny. It was funny as hell. That was funny. I was like, boy, y'all.

Petty. Different, man. It'll make him the great, though. I mean, he's irreplaceable. Irreplaceable. That's why I wanted to talk about top five sinners in all time. The only motherfucker that got the best of them was Hakeem, because he didn't ever get his face back.

Shaq wasn't having that shit after that. After he was young? You know, what's so funny is, you know, they have put him as a top five center, right? But if you put everybody up for grabs and say you have the number one pick in the draft, he's going to go one or two. Absolutely. He's going to go one or two. Absolutely.

He's going to go one or two. Them other four centers you got in front of him, you're not picking him over Shaquille O'Neal in a draft. That's where when you talk about ranking people, there's some people who's not in the top five, but they are top five. That's what I said.'s not in the top five, but they are top five. Mm-hmm I did they you're not like that's what I said. It's like he's not in my top. He's my he's in my top five Right, but if I had the number one pick I'm picking him over Jordan

You take a shack over Jordan is it? Yeah, okay, because you know With Jordan you still got to build the team around him Which do you you have to really with Shaquille O'Neal at the sense is like, all right, I can find, I might not have Jordan, but I can find a two guard who can hit. I can get Kobe. I can find another two guard that can hit shots and then go from there. But whatever team you are building, you have to actually consider who has to guard him,

who has to do all this stuff. So, you know when you're talking about somebody who's unstoppable I will go with the unstoppable force and then you have to figure out who you're gonna pick after that to even try to contain What he brings that's right. Yeah, we can say oh, yeah, we're just found him at the free throw line Well, you have to have enough bodies to do it. Yep That's the unicorn, you know, so shout out his daughter to me are O'Neal. That's the unicorn thing. Shout out his daughter, too. Miara O'Neal. She made the McDonald's All-American.

It's dope. His whole family that they're doing it. It's so funny. It's not a hot... People think it's a dumb take and a hot take, but you guys are fans.

That's the problem. You can sit there and you say, all right, I'll take Jordan. Okay, I'm going to take Shaq. Now go. And then we're going to go through all the greats.

I got Shaq first. You get Jordan. Okay, I go... I won't to take Shaq. Now go. Right? And then we're going to go through all the greats. I got Shaq first. You get Jordan. Okay. I go. I won't even take Kobe. But then I got Kobe. Now go. You take Hakeem, right?

Thinking that, you know, the 19, 20-year-old Hakeem, you know, the Shaq is. Okay. After I get that, then you go. Then I'm going to go. Then you go. And then we'll see if your team is actually big enough to, when I pass the ball down there, God damn it. Like, they had to put a zone in They had to put a zone in to stop him. They confused it. They had to they had to draft

Sorry as big man. He was taking steroids just to stop this dude Yeah, that was a say bro. We'll pay. Hey, bro. We'll draft Okay, you look good this dude. Yeah, and that was a shack. Hey, bro, we'll pay, hey, bro, we'll draft you. No, no, I'm saying like, they acting like I wasn't in the NBA with the dude. I'm like, yo, who got to guard this man? That was a shack

without the muscle. That was a shack. That was a young shack, young athletic shack that had to go up against the team and a lot of people picked that,

but it's like, when you pick your five and I pick mine, you might have Mike and I might have Kobe, but you don't have a shack. I is I have a shack you take it. There's only one shack You don't get to pick two shacks. This is what there's like diff. There's dudes and there's dudes that just They just are in

The errors that they're in when you put them in any era They're just more like you can't, you can't take Shaquille O'Neal, and this is, when I say this is how different he was, you take Shaq and put him in the 80s, 70s, 60s, you can't do that, right? You can't put him in those eras because he's just too strong, too big,

they not ready for that. You put him in the eras after that, they're not built for that. So there's no era that was built for this type of player. Same thing with LeBron, you can't throw him in the eras after that, they're not built for that. So there's no era that was built for this type of player. Same thing with LeBron. You can't throw him in any era, right? Same thing with Jordan. You can't put Jordan in the 70s, 60s, 50s, right?

If you think he's going to give this era, right, 50s and 60s, what you think you're doing in eras before the 80s and 70s and 60s? And he gets to play against A you teams right there's just different There's dude, there's these dudes that they are a that just that's what I'm saying. There's these dudes That's there's only rarely news that you can you can sit there and put them through errors And that's the thing that I say about the Kobe Mike comparison Kobe had Shaq Mike didn't but if you put Shaq on Mike's team Mike is throwing that bitch in there to Shaq, Mike didn't, but if you put Shaq on Mike's team, Mike is throwing that bitch in there to Shaq.

Like go ahead big fella, ain't nobody stopping you. I don't need to do shit. And when I need to do shit, I'll do shit when I need to do shit. And that was the Kobe, the Robin role. Like I got to play Robin because look at this nigga, he's incredible. Like what do you want me to do? I pick it up in the fourth. Big fella, you tired? I pick it up in the fourth. Big fella, you tired?

I pick it up in the fourth. Like, even somebody like, like, if you took, like, a player like Giannis, right? I think Giannis will struggle in the early 2000s. I think he'll struggle in the early 2000s. That's the only era I'll see him struggling is the early 2000s. 90s, he's fine. 80s, he's 70. I mean, because they're not used to the four-man bringing the ball up,

coming through the lane. But the only thing that would have stopped him would be the zone and compact era. Shit. KG, Kenya Martin, Rasheed. Niggas like that. Is it his size? But no, if they had to guard him full court, that's where his advantage is.

But we didn't do it. Yeah, we gave the fuck back. We gave the fuck back. We just zoned it up. But that's what I said. So you can see, okay, only for like five years in that early era then. You want to say like 2000, 2005?

Yeah, like 2000, 2005. That was a rough era, bro. I'm not... Yeah, it was. A lot of people don't want to see that era. It was hard times. A lot of people... Everybody was athletic.

Everybody was good. Going against the Detroit Pistons, like, they were just... They just... Because it was just... It was just clogged for him. Jokic... I mean, his skill set, his passing,

I don't think that he would have averaged 10 assists in the other errors because they didn't have enough shooting like that Look, I'm gonna be honest with you. Jokic ain't better than the Gasol brothers I'm putting I'm just just all around just both of them motherfuckers was so good. It was ahead of a time park it It was ahead of a time. You can park it. I play with Mark. If you play basketball and you've seen them too, and you watched them. I've seen them. You can park that. Talk about Jokic. Where do you think he got it from? I play with Mark. Mark was good, but...

You can park that. Jokic was just more advanced. Nah. He ain't even doing different moves than they was doing. He don't need to. He don't need to. Because the defense is worse. Like I said.

Because who are you going against? Like I said, you can park that. Paul and Mark going up against each other. You can park that. I've seen Paul Gasol give work to real defender niggas. I've seen Paul Gasol become a beast after he played with Kobe. Nah, because you didn't watch the game before that. Okay.

Nigga. Okay. They didn't have cable overseas. Hey, I'm sorry, Rashad. They didn't have cable overseas, nigga., I got it. They didn't have cable overseas, nigga. Okay, like I said, I mean, yeah.

08, what you said? 08? Are you talking about Memphis? 07, 08? Memphis? Huh? They didn't even have it. They didn't have it.

No, that's fine. That's fine, but... Gasol in Memphis? Memphis, Gasol? What the fuck? They don't even know what he talking about. I mean, that's like

Chris Bosh in Toronto. Okay. What's the difference? What's the difference? What's the difference there? Did you watch him? Did you talking about. I mean that's like Chris Bosh in Toronto. Okay. What's the difference? What's the difference there? What's the difference there? Did you watch him? Did you watch him?

Yes. Did you watch Chris Bosh? Did you watch Chris Bosh? Chris Bosh was my class. He was my class. Okay. They was the same before they got with who they was supposed to play with. No they wasn't.

Yes they were. They was the same player. CB4. His name was CB4. Them niggas was the same player before. One went to play with Kobe. The other one went to play with LeBron. They're the same player as before. No, he wasn't, bro.

Both of them niggas. Who? Paul Gasol and Chris Bosh. He's saying that they was not that good before. No, no, no. They were good, but I'm saying they were. Until they got with them other dogs, then yeah, they became. No, Bosh was the dude.

They was the dude. Nigga, what are you talking about? But he said Paul Gasol. Paul Gasol. No, Paul was nice. Paul was nice. Yeah, But he said Paul Gasol. Paul Gasol. No, Paul was nice. Paul was nice. Yeah, but he said Paul Gasol better than Jokic. Why you think they went and got Paul?

Paul Gasol was better than Bosh. Listen, man. Paul. He wasn't. Paul Gasol was not better than Chris Bosh. Are you kidding me? No, he wasn't. Gasol, nigga.

Nightmare on Elm Street. Yeah, all right. Y'all got Chris. Nightmare on Elm Street. You got Chris Bosh fucked up. No, you got. All the way. You got Paul Gasol fucked up. No, you got... All the way. You got Paul Gasol fucked up.

No, you got Chris Bosch fucked up. Why you think it's Jersey up there? Why you think it's Jersey up there? Why you think it's Jersey up there? All right, then. I got a lot. I mean, you got one with Kobe. I got a starting five.

It's for the couch. Got a starting five. They said BJ at the one, Gil at the two, Josiah at the three, Kenyon Martin at the four, Rashad at the hotel, Gil at the two, Josiah at the three, Kenyon Martin at the four, Rashad at the hotel with the work.

That's fucking crazy. Hey, Nico, you fucking fucked up with Rashad at the end. Let's go to Mostly fans. Let's go to Mostly fans. I'll take that. Y'all have no perimeter skills.

I'll take that. I'll see y'all after the game. Nico Springs. Let's go to Your perimeter Y'all at it again Nico's No, that's it he goes really serious shine at the hotel Be on the lookout for the workshop coming soon. Jeez. I will take that though. I'll take that. That's what I was like, okay, that's funny. I'll be telling that for the game. I was like, that's funny, dog.

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So we got one question today. It is a video question from Mostly Fans or Underdog user Grit1of1. Hey, what's up, y'all? Say, look, my question is, how hard would it be for a random person to read an NBA scouting report? And two, what was your favorite away arena to play in? Oh, man. Man, you know that nigga drive like this with the seatbelt.

Yeah. That nigga. Yeah. Like, why he just sit up? Nigga parked over still seatbelt. So how hard would it be for a casual to read a scouting report? And what was your favorite away arena to play play a casual fan like this a fan? They've been handed just got your report and they had to go through it easy

The readers got important but actually like like understand it and go stop somebody. No, I mean stop Well, I mean I mean cuz if I'm reading Reading it. No, I don't think a casual fan understand shit. It's coming for the game. Yes, like cuz Reading a scouting report and then understanding what they got it. No, they're not not picking roll. No doing no what we doing Okay, this guy does this they would not understand. No blue. They wouldn't none of that shit. I forgot blue full rotation down down Half rotation, that's why they pay we going on the we're going on the I think that's why they pay to come on I wish I was a casual fan would tell me age. Are you guys do for some shut the fuck up? They got this play go out about me

How much does that annoy you guys though? That's why I try not to do a lot of it on this show because I respect what you guys have been able to accomplish I never played in the league. How much does annoy you when fans, but you're late though So I'm doing it, but I'm the same a fan, but I'll never trade some NBA shit Like but fans will try to tell you I you should have just did this that or whatever It's like I look I don't mind a fan doing it because of the fan. I don't like when media does it What I would have done this is and you're trying to talk you're talking layman terms to something that's very very It's very very detailed right so even a scouting report, right

We get a scout report every day So if Lucas scoring 35 points a game and these motherfuckers going 35 that there's a scouting report There's teams given scouting reports play. All right, we to push him. We're going to push him right. He's going to do this move, do this move. Yeah, that shit sounds good until you face that motherfucker, right? This shit sounds like, remember, speed and strength don't have

nothing to do with this scouting report. Alright, you know, when we gun out, LeBron James is going to come, and when he comes real hard, take a charge. And then you see him coming. Oh, shit real hard, take a charge. And then you see him coming. Oh, shit! Oh, no! Steph Curry going to shoot the three. That was a lot.

No, what I'm saying is Steph Curry going to shoot the three. John Moran going to come and then John Moran going to do this. It all sounds good reading it on a piece of paper until the dude is coming to you in full speed. Right?

Right? The scouting report is the scouting report. The scouting report is like... What happened? It's just like regular rules to just life itself. Nah, that's the terminology to it all. And like you say, with the media getting mixed up. And I believe it's more so them trying to influence the fact that they want the fans to believe them more than us and that's that's one of

the things that really kind of gets under my skin is like you ain't never been in the locker room listening to the scouting report change mid-conversation because one player who's got to guard that nigga is like no no no coach we can't nah, coach. We can't. Nah, nah. We ain't even do that. We got to face him baseline. We got to force him baseline because this is what I'm going to do to him. And then even things we practice in practice. Some coaches don't go through all of the fucking strategies.

We just going blue or red on this side. We not going black? We not going to go over to black? What about at the top? What we going to do? We going to push him over? Because he been hitting that shit lately. We need to talk about going under. Are we going to go under, get stuck? Are we going to go under one What are we going to do? Are we going to push him over? Because he's been hitting that shit lately. We need to talk about going under. Are we going to go under, get stuck? Are we going to go under one? Are we going to go under both?

Like, there's a lot of shit that goes into it. And if you're a detailed player, an analytical player, you want to know all of the strategies. You want to know, all right, what exactly is this nigga doing tonight that he wasn't doing four games ago? On the last three games, this motherfucker is averaging 40. Yo, you got him. What are we doing tonight that he wasn't doing four games ago? On the last three games, this motherfucker is averaging 40. Yo, you got him. What we doing tonight? What you feel comfortable doing? Because you're going to have him for the first 12 minutes of the game.

If he get off 20, we need to change his strategy now. He's got a report. It's crinkled up. We got to throw this bitch back here. That's out the window. What we doing now? What's plan B? So favorite road arena to play in, too, is the second part of that question.

Favorite what? Favorite arena, away arena to play in. Oh, I mean, the Madison Square Garden. Oh, yeah, Madison. Madison Square Garden. American Airline Arena. Work. Oh Oh my God. Lord have mercy. Chill leaders. You might catch a good stray in there boy.

Well for us, you know niggas that like to put that ball in that hoop. Miami. Miami. You know, you know, put that ball in that hoop and put on the show, you know Everything it starts that mess where it's like the Tootsies afterwards New York getting in the goddamn taxi It's flavors this flavor no fucking flavor. It's a lot of flavors in New York and honking and It's a lot of flavors crossing the street walking and shit now nigga. Oh, man I mean a beach. I mean, well, I it just depends on what type of women you like. I'm on the beach with a chica.

You know, you know. Ladies and gentlemen, Gray Paul. Doing a fiesta. Let me say one thing on the scouting report. Always remember, this is why a scouting report is sometimes pointless, right? The idea of what a scouting report is, you know, give you some intuition of what's going to happen. But think about a player like Kyrie, KD, right, the stars. When you're going through the scouting report, who the fuck on your team gets to be them? Right?

So, you know what I mean? I have a bench player coming off the bench. I got this. You know what I'm saying? I made my answer. Right? You know what I mean? So, like bench player coming off the bench Joe's in on the team and Joe's I were playing your kids Joe is your kids I'm cooking on scout team that what I said I'm saying, but it's it doesn't give you nothing

You're going against you're going against I'm going against Kyrie Irving. I gotta stop Kyrie over in the back the backup, the backup coming behind me has to be Kyrie Irving. How does that look in real life? I can stop you. You know what I mean? I got to guard Kobe. You are Kobe.

It's good luck. You get to be Kobe. It's good luck. But I'm saying this. He gets the backup. The guy who don't even start in front of me has to be the best player

in the world at this point That lets you know how far the scouting report would be off because what I'm doing against him that ain't even going Kobe, but remember the scouting report is for the systematic strategy. That's what it's the systematic of are we gonna push him in? It works when if this person is Kobe Bryant. It's not helpful. Oh, yeah, we're just going to push you in the corner and be like, okay, this shit worked. And then that's Kobe, and he takes one dribble, pull up, fade away, pull up, fake, come through. And now he got the whole fucking 300 moves he got.

Now, hey, coach, this shit ain't working. Can we blue it? That's what happened. All right, we're going to blue it. Okay, now he's spent through the Yeah, yeah. Can we blue it? That's what happened. All right, we're going to blue it. Okay, now he's spent through the blue. Dunk. Can we black it? Can we black it?

Can we trap it? He's going to split it. Hit the fadeaway. Hey, can we just switch? I don't want to guard this motherfucker no more. Can we just strap it and get it out of his hand? And that's what ends up happening, that everything you done went through in practice is irrelevant because the real player is who you're playing against.

The real one. That's what makes them great, though, right? When you are guarding the real motherfucker, and we scouted this motherfucker to perfection, and he do his shit, and we all look at the bench like... I remember we were in the playoffs, and I got

to be... We're playing Hawks in the playoffs. I was with Orlando, right? And it was like, all right, Gil, you Joe Johnson, right? Right? Gil, you Joe Johnson. I got a bad leg. I got a bad leg and everything, right? I can barely move this.

Cooking! Hey, hey. And I'm going to say, y' right? I can barely move this. Cooking! Hey, hey. And I'm over here saying, y'all about to get your ass busted. I'm Joe Johnson, and I'm scoring a day. What happened to the real one? The real one come. He gonna cook. What happened when the real one come?

I'm doing all that. I used to do the same shit. I'm like, oh, shit. Y'all ain't gonna be able to stop Joe if I'm getting off. Man, I don't even play. I don't even play. And Joe's 6'8", all of 6'9", and I'm

6'3", 6'4", giving y'all this work. Y'all, good luck for Joe. Good luck when Joe comes here. This is over. That was my favorite part. That was my favorite part of the scout team is, hey, man, if y'all can't stop me, it's good night tonight. And it's good night.

Hey, do y'all hate me? Nah, never's goodnight tonight. And it's goodnight. Hey, do y'all hate with... Nah, never mind. Yeah. We'll have it. After the show. Wait for it. Or save it for tomorrow, okay? So we can make this thing stretch.

It is Valentine's Day tomorrow. Make sure you get your boo flowers. Get your house in order. But this has been another... So when... And I still like flowers? Cheap-ass gift. Giving out flowers.

You're right, you're right. What you mean? You don't like giving flowers? Fuck no. This has been... Like I'm at a funeral. Another episode. I feel like... That's a dope-ass gift. Giving out flowers. You're right, you're right. What you mean? You don't like giving flowers? Fuck no. This has been. Like I'm at a funeral. Another episode. That's what happens.

The love dies. The love dies. If she like flowers. They let the love die. If she like flowers. They let it die. I was like, bitch, you ain't taking care of my flower. Look at my flower.

I gave it to you. My flowers. You like flowers. And chocolates? This is. You ate all the chocolates. And that's all it take to get. Flowers? My flowers. You like flowers. And chocolates? This is. You ate all the chocolates with the flowers. That's all it take to get it. Tap my face.

This has been. So look. Are you getting your girl flowers? What are you doing? What are you doing? I'm not revealing my secrets. I'm a private man. Flower?

I don't do that. It'll be more turned up than what you guys are doing. You're going to Catalina Island, ain't you? Sizzler Coupon. Sizzler? Americana. Applebee's? Applebee's. Applebee's.

You going somewhere extravagant. Me? Yeah, you. You know me. I like the... You got your duck shoes on and everything. I got expensive taste. We will discuss it tomorrow on another episode. You got to do something nice.

We will discuss it tomorrow on another episode. Are you going to dinner? What are we going to say? Can't remember to do... some nice I got no way to kill. Goddamn. That's why I should shut up. I got no way to kill. I know. We just waiting for this. Hey, that's some funny shit, though. But Gil, you do that shit where you know I got to fight. I got to fight before everyone to go play after a half hour. Oh, I get it.

I got it. OK. I've got somewhere to be. And we're three. OK. Man, don't you hate when I'm on hook. Got you. My bad.

Hey, you see them over there doing this. And we just like, all right. I got you. So these get ready to talk. So, uh. Gil, the people have things they need to do, too. You got it, Joe. We'll stop. That's it for every show that gives a read.

We're going to end it on a hundred dollars. We'll see you all tomorrow. We got this. Yeah, yeah. We got this. We got this. We got this. We got this.

We got this. We got this. We'll be right back. Thank you. Teksting av Nicolai Winther 5, 4, 3, 2 you