Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Reacts To Wemby's UNBELIEVABLE Game vs Jokic

Episode Date: April 3, 2024

Gil's Arena Reacts To Victor Wembanyama's UNBELIEVABLE Game vs Nikola Jokic & The Denver Nuggets as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew break down another near quadruple double for the San Antonio... Spurs rookie and discuss the immense ceiling for the french phenom putting up stat lines nobody has seen before. They also react to Joel Embiid's return from injury for the Philadelphia 76ers and discuss what the reigning MVP needs to do to show Gil it was a good decision for him to return before giving a LIVE reaction to Angel Reese declaring for the WNBA. Finally, they please the chat by asking if we're all sleeping on LeBron James and his resurgent Los Angeles Lakers team and continue their dissection of a Milwaukee Bucks team limping towards a pivotal playoffs for Giannis Antetokounmpo & Damian Lillard. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Fill out the form with YOUR FINAL 4 TEAM, and if they win it all, you'll take home a piece of the $100,000 bonus cash prize - https://forms.gle/Xb7VaHSkby5ZK2qq7 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Use Code GIL For $100 Off An Aura Watch - http://aura.watch/gilsarena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:06:11 Metro Boomin Feels The Wrath of Drake 0:12:26 Worst Pranks You've Ever Seen 0:17:53 Gil's 0.2 College GPA 0:21:14 Who Taught You How To Be A Pro Hooper? 0:26:08 Gil Isn't Buying Joel Embiid's Return 0:30:22 LSU vs IOWA Record Setting Ratings 0:46:37 Angel Reese Declares For WNBA 0:49:00 How Much Longer Will Warriors Big 3 Last? 0:55:28 Wemby GOES OFF vs Jokic 1:07:39 You Are SLEEPING On The Lakers 1:17:48 There's No Pressure on The Denver Nuggets 1:22:49 Bucks Lose To The Wizards 1:38:28 Rajon Rondo Officially Retires 1:55:07 What Do You Miss Most About the NBA 2:03:13 MostlyFans 2:16:35 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:06 We got a legend in the building, but we will talk about that in a second. We are out here. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. We got a special guest that pulled up. We may or may not convince him to come to the arena, but we will see. What's good, Gil? What's up with the glasses?
Starting point is 00:01:24 I don't know. I didn't put my ice room on You hit the joint again what you know, I got my bag man people say I'm not sleeping which I'm not you do about 47 shows a day Turn on YouTube do it so that's. That's a fact. Going hard, going hard. Working hard. But yeah, this is Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend, Gil with Arena. Man, it's hot in here, man.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Fix your AC. Gil, this all stems from you. These are problems you created for us. It's hot outside. Why are you wearing that? I don't know. It's actually very hot outside. It was cold in my room, so. We got Lexi Brown back on the couch with us.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Nice time piece on your wrist. We'll get to that in a little bit. All right, you know, y'all, you know, a little aura situation going down over here. And as always, representing Tough Crowd, we got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings. Yes, sir. That's a tough, you know, got some Tough Crowd gear myself. They don't like me in here. They don't like me in here.
Starting point is 00:02:25 They don't never give you no love. They don't give you no love. We got time. We got time. We don't like this today. We got time. We got time to get over there. So here's what's cracking in the arena today.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Joel Embiid made his return to the Sixers Tuesday night. But what did he show us in his first game back in over two months? Unfortunately, we don't have Rashad McCants here. The group chat was buzzing. Rashad had some opinions. He did? You seen it. I usually just post and leave.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I don't want to see his response. Jokic and Wimby faced off for the third time this season, but how far away is Wimby from being on Jokic's level in the league? Might be coming sooner than a lot of people are expecting. And the Dameless Bucks lost to the Wizards. How concerning are the Bucks' road struggles this season as they get ready for the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:03:13 Giannis has some thoughts we will discuss. But before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app, use promo code GILL, and they will match your first deposit up to $100. Yes, you heard that right. If you download the Underdog Fantasy app the app, use promo code GILL, and they will match your first deposit up to $100. Yes, you heard that right. If you download the Underdog Fantasy app right now and use promo code GILL, you get a $100 first-time deposit or match,
Starting point is 00:03:31 and they are still giving away a free pickle to help you get your bread right as we get ready for Final Four NBA playoffs, the WNBA season right around the corner. A lot of good stuff going on. And as always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of every show. If you drop a good question in the chat with your Underdog Fantasy username, and we use that question on the show, we will give you a $50 bonus to your
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Starting point is 00:04:08 you get your podcasts from. And we've been telling you the past few shows, so we're going to remind you again. Gills Arena is going live Sunday, April 14th at the El Rey Theater in Hollywood. The El Rey. The El Rey. Sight of the infamous DJ Quick situation back in the day for those rap aficionados. You know, he got into it. What who?
Starting point is 00:04:30 He was on stage doing his thing. And there were people out in the crowd trying to who-bang. Oh, man. You know, but. What area is that in? That's Hollywood, Gil. Oh, damn. Heart of Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Lovely poster. Brandon, you put that poster together? Yeah, that's heart. Legendary. Legendary. Brandon, you put that poster together? Yeah, that's hard. Legendary. Legendary. Very, very elegant. The entire crew will be there to celebrate the last day of the NBA season. Sunday, April 14th.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Show starts at 6 o'clock. I know a lot of y'all have been asking about ticket information. We have finally secured a ticket plug. We will release that information on tomorrow's show. So this Thursday, pull up to Gills Arena. You can get your tickets for the Gil's Arena live show in Hollywood at the El Rey Theater Sunday, April 14th. There's going to be a link.
Starting point is 00:05:10 You're going to drop a link? They're going to drop a link. Okay. Starting at 1130 AM Pacific tomorrow. The show is guaranteed to sell out. As previously mentioned, we will have security there. We know a lot of y'all don't necessarily love the things that we do on this show. P.J. Tucker's still looking for Gil.
Starting point is 00:05:26 No, he's playing now. We're looking for you, Steve. He got in the game. Huh? He can't pull it. He's going to be at practice. No, no, they play. They play the Rockets at 1230.
Starting point is 00:05:36 So come after the game. That's what he's going to be playing. The show will be in the evening. Guaranteed to be a good time. I mean, he's going to have energy. All you fellas out there, bring your special work. And the men's Final Four is set with NC State taking on Purdue and Alabama
Starting point is 00:05:54 facing UConn. And to celebrate, Underdog Fantasy is doing a million dollar airdrop special. So Gil and three other Underdog partners were randomly assigned to Final Four team on yesterday's show. Gil, you got NC State. Oh, I thought I was going to redo it. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:06:08 You should have picked NC State first. Gill, you got NC State. I know, right? I just pretended it didn't even happen. Jack Settleman has UConn. Jared Karabas has Purdue. And Nick Merckx, who was unavailable to join the call last night, got Alabama. Underdog users will be able to sign up for whichever partner team pairing you like.
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Starting point is 00:06:54 Little bit different before we get to the basketball stuff so Metro Boomin is learning firsthand What happens when you go at Drake so even before him in future drop there? We don't trust you album which featured a verse from Kendrick dissing Drake and J. Cole, the producer's phone started getting blown up with spam calls from the 416 area code, which is Drake's hometown of Toronto, also known as Lebronto for basketball fans out there. So Metro posted the following tweet with a screen grab of his call log saying, quote, it all started two days before the album dropped and all these 416 numbers would call me back to back a million times.
Starting point is 00:07:26 It got so bad I had to keep my phone on airplane mode. Well, it got worse for him. In a series of tweets, Metro Boomin also detailed how his phone was hacked and Twitter account was hijacked. In addition, the hacker's trying to order expensive luxury items, including janky Balenciaga boots and purses. So although he can't confirm that somebody on Drake's team is behind the attacks, he does have some suspicions. So, Brandon, you're a resident expert on all things hip-hop and hip-hop beef related. What do you make of this entire situation?
Starting point is 00:07:54 That's funny. That's hip-hop beef. So ultimate level of pettiness. Toronto fans, they real fans. They real fans. They nuts. Yeah. Every time I slander Toronto, they coming.
Starting point is 00:08:10 416 calls? Huh? You get calls from the 416? No, they can't call me. No, you don't pick up? No, I don't get incoming calls. No, but they be in the DMs like crazy. How do you not get incoming calls?
Starting point is 00:08:22 You go to AT&T or your provider and say you don't want incoming calls. So they give you a number to like a dead number and you just forward call it to, so like 00000. So I can only text. You can text me, I can text you, I'll scream. So what if someone needs you in an emergency? I'm the last person you want as an emergency. You're like, that's your kids. Huh?
Starting point is 00:08:40 That's your kids. What's the emergency? I don't know. They've been hurt. They need their dad? Huh? Yeah, like, they just don't- They can text. Okay, that's your kids They've been hurt their dad, huh? Yeah like they just don't think in tax Okay, I got a text last night that I love you. I'm just sexier this morning. What me too couple hours late But I got it if it's an emergency do not call you
Starting point is 00:09:02 You don't have like an emergency line. Oh God, thank you. I think you got a line. You just don't want to give us the number. I got no emergency line. All right. The best is when you call me, I don't pick up. I got to text you back, like, give him my number. I get to scream.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Oh, yeah, that sounds like money. They want money. And because there's no incoming call, and if you call, it looks like my phone is always disconnected, so you don't know if I got a new number or not until I return. So everyone just texts you. Yeah. How many times did it take people asking you for money for you to make the decision to eliminate incoming calls from your phone?
Starting point is 00:09:36 A few years. Yeah, okay. It's a few years. It started because when you're playing, when you're getting into the season, and then people start calling for tickets. I need my tickets. I forgot my tickets. You're getting ready to start for the game.
Starting point is 00:09:49 My tickets ain't here. You was fed up. Then you're sitting there like, oh, hold on. Let me get your tickets. You're talking to the ticket person, realizing you have a game. Your girl hits you on the road right before the game. Who's this girl? This girl come on.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I ain't got time for that. So I started realizing that every day before game day shit started happening. So I just eliminated all that Well, I'm have to do the same thing Yeah, you fed up. You gotta do the same thing. Everybody thinks I'm Gil's PR Can kill come do this They want me on theirs? Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:26 But I was like, what you emailing me for? And the good one is, think about it like this. If you're a cheater, never have to worry about your phone. Girl's just calling randomly. Wendy's most important deal of the day has a fresh lineup. Pick any two breakfast items for $4. New four-piece French toast sticks, bacon or sausage wrap, biscuit or English muffin
Starting point is 00:10:47 sandwiches, small hot coffee, and more. Limited time only at participating Wendy's Taxes Extra. Gil, that's a very, very very, very finite percentage of the community. You can leave your phone anywhere. And worry about just these random calls.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Never. Don't ring. Just text. No FaceTime either? Anywhere you never got to go to and worry about just these random calls and never Don't rank this text just text. I'll face no FaceTime either FaceTime do work, but I keep it off Because this was created this is created when when iPhone wasn't in yet. It was Blackberry So you can answer FaceTime. Yeah, I can if I turn turn my FaceTime on, all of them shits will come through. Okay. So, okay. You learned something new about Gil. FaceTime is weak, though, because it's not like it used to be. Like Skype, you knew what was about to pop on Skype.
Starting point is 00:11:31 You knew when Skype called, it was about to pop. FaceTime, people just really want to talk. Like, I don't want to talk anymore. What was popping on Skype? You too young for that conversation. Skype was the thing. Skype was the thing? I use Skype.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I've used Skype. Probably not for what you're looking for. Back in 06, 04, 05, 06 Skype was like, yeah. Yeah. I'm about to Skype you tonight and you're like, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I just simply keep in touch with my friends in different our state my a you teammates were in a different state than me. Oh, yeah Mm-hmm. He's using it for a correct. I mean I was a child, you know Well in regards to this Metro booming a
Starting point is 00:12:21 Potential drink OVO situation try to keep us on course every day, ladies and gentlemen. I wish y'all knew how to do it. We don't care about that week. That wraps. Gil does not care. Metro Bealman wants him. That's him, right? Yeah, that is the person that we were discussing.
Starting point is 00:12:35 The person that we were talking about. Yeah, that is him. You like to do pranks. So what's the worst prank you pulled or seen someone pull on one of your teammates? Ooh, yeah. I got an obvious story. So obvious story, teammate out of Chicago. Arizona State legend.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Legend? He was a legend in Arizona State. He wasn't? Okay. Very active on the court. Facts. He just bought these $10,000 rims for a truck. And that was his world. So his wife couldn't drive his car because the rims, right? Always cleaned them.
Starting point is 00:13:13 It was like his pride and joy. And he kept fucking with me. So we went on a road trip. We was going to the West Coast road trip. What I decided to do is when we got to the first stop, and we went to shoot around, when I realized he was on a bus I went to his room and said I'm on his store I went to the front mommy story I need a room and they gave me his key went in there took his keys and then mailed them
Starting point is 00:13:37 back to my boy and then my boy went to the airport where cars are took the cars right took his rims off and then put his car under on cement blocks under the arena and then he had to mail the keys back to me and then I put it back in this bag so like two road trips later so we got back in town you know car gone car gone. Car gone. And then we was having like shoot around, we was having film session and they rolled one of the rims in. Damn. He then had a heart attack. That was very disappointing. Lexi, what's the worst prank that somebody got you with or you did to somebody? I don't get pranked. You don't play those games?
Starting point is 00:14:26 Lexi has a ton of fun. I've been an instrumental member of Gil's and Lexi's arena presented by NerdHawk. Y'all have never pranked each other? Pillow fight? That's not a fucking prank. A pillow fight is not a... First of all, this conversation is over
Starting point is 00:14:42 because why is pillow fight the first thing that comes to your mind? Move on, Brandon. You're a prank. I ain't got one. I don't play pranks. You don't play those games? So he's not funny too?
Starting point is 00:14:51 No, I don't play pranks. Hell no. You want to ask him if he does pillow fights? Pillow fight ever? Mr. B? Yeah, pillow fight. That's not a prank, though. This is good.
Starting point is 00:15:03 That's torture. Y'all never had... I mean, y'all did have Scott Scott, so y'all didn't have no personalities on your team. No. Okay. Our whole team was personalities. The worst thing they did was kick the balls in the stands, as a rookie prank, I guess. But that wasn't- You had to go retrieve said balls?
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah. Yeah. We didn't have that. Thanks. It wasn't no- Y'all was too serious. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, moving onward and upward.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Gil, so you got selected in the underdog airdrop promo. Your team is North Carolina State. We got a North Carolina State-related story. So they saw both their men's and women's basketball team. I don't care. But go. We care. I care.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Thank you, Lexi. You're welcome. Looking forward to the next shootout when this returns to Lexi's arena. Gil likely won't improve upon his 12-point performance. There you go. Don't tell us about the sorry-ass team I got. Nope.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It's not about the school. Sorry, they made it to the Final Four. Fine institution. So, both their men's and women's basketball teams reached a Final Four this weekend. One student took advantage of the situation. He had a test scheduled, so he emailed his professor. He said, hey, I'm lit as F right now. And I hope you are, too, because the Final Four appearance is a lot to celebrate.
Starting point is 00:16:18 How about we move this test to Wednesday or Tuesday or Wednesday? The student professor, being a man of high character, obliged, responding with, James, this is possibly my favorite email of the year. You've convinced me. That's love. Some things are bigger than class. Oh, I thought it was the player that emailed the coach.
Starting point is 00:16:40 He's not going to class. He's been in school about six, seven years. Exactly. That's been in school about six, seven years. Exactly. That's fire. That was the best part of going to the tournament because it was right around, we were on the quarter system, so it was right around finals time. You get that nice little extension, take it on the road,
Starting point is 00:16:57 do whatever you needed to do to advance your education. I know you majored in basketball when you were in college, but who was your favorite teacher when you did go to class at any point in your life? Because oh, I was the only one to class one time in college. I don't do you remember what class it was? Oh Why you go because that's I thought that's what we were supposed to do I go to class and then I realized it was so many people They would miss me so I just went to the gym. So I really didn't. I had an 0.2.
Starting point is 00:17:29 How'd you get the 0.2? Summer school. Good job. And then, you know, one of them classes they give you is like the freshman, like, what was that? The freshman time management class. That's a class? Yeah, when you're Arizona. Wow, Kat, that's a class.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Freshman time management. It was like a time management class, which, you know, I used to troll in there like, this time management, I'm wasting my time in here. I could be doing something better. But I had an old point too. School was for fools back then. A fool can't make no money in school. I hated all my teachers. Every single one? Yeah. At every level of education? I don money in school. I hated all my teachers. Every single one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:06 At every level of education? I don't like school. Seriously. Even high school? It's like prison. It's comparable. I mean, high school, I went to school.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I went to class in high school. Yeah, I mean, I had to, but I don't mean I liked it. I heard a story about you in high school. I cannot share it on the show, Gil, but I will ask you afterwards. A good one?
Starting point is 00:18:22 I used to bring boxing gloves. I used to bring boxing gloves to class. What? Why? Because I used to fight.? I used to bring boxing gloves. I used to bring boxing gloves to class. What? Why? Because I used to fight. So I used to charge $5 for a boxing match.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Okay. To fight you? Somebody said you had hands before. I heard that. I heard you had hands. You got to pretend that you're not violent around here, you know? White folks don't like violence. They said, Gil, you still... They said white folks don't like violence.
Starting point is 00:18:49 White folks don't like violence, man. You gotta be scary. They can eat a bag when you're scary. They like violence. It's not against them. We got a question from the audience. So, Gil, about school, I once heard Channing Frye tell a story about you coming into class at Arizona, disrupting the class and turning off the lights and leaving.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Do you remember this by any chance? Can you tell that story, please? Yeah, it was summer school. It was summer school, right? And it was summer school classes, and it was before I declared for the draft. So I was like, oh, man, I need to get these A's. I need to get A's to go, to be eligible. So obviously I go to class and then sitting there bored,
Starting point is 00:19:33 like this is weak as shit. In the summer in here, hot. So I turned the lights off and said, I'm out of this motherfucking life. That's a very gilded story. Very problematic during your two years staying at the
Starting point is 00:19:46 University of Arizona. Oh, yeah, I used to steal a golf cart, the little security golf cart. Oh, I used to do all that. Oh, yeah. Steal that. Ride that around.
Starting point is 00:19:55 May Lou Dawson say the N-word. Rest in peace to the legend. Like, they should've kicked me out of school. Like, that's what I said. I was fortunate to never be penalized for what I was doing off the court on a court. So my behavior off the court never affected, like, playing time and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Like, I'm pretty sure I'm the worst, worst human being in Arizona. More menace, more menace style. Yeah. I believe that. I was a menace. Well, let's shift to the basketball side. Talking about education. I hate that y'all hated school so much. What? I hate that y'all hated school so much. What? I enjoyed school. I won't elaborate because y'all don't care, but. I mean, it doesn't surprise us, to be honest. I love school. I like to learn. Speaking of learning, Alexi, which vet taught you't surprise us, to be honest. I love school. I like to learn. Speaking of learning, Alexi, which vet taught you the most about how to be a pro?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Simone Augustus, my second year in Minnesota. Yeah, I kind of had a rough rookie season, had a really good season overseas, got traded, was really excited. Yeah, she kind of just took me under her wing, taught me a lot. We don't really play that alike, but I was in the transition of playing the one, kind of starting to play more of the two. And I think Simone is one of the best two guards to ever play in the W. So to have her as a vet my second year in the season was amazing. And we're still really close.
Starting point is 00:21:29 She is one of the facilitators in Athletes Unlimited. So I get to see her all the time and talk to her all the time. So she's great. Yeah. She's a pioneer for the game. Brandon, how about yourself? Which vet taught you the most about how to be a pro and how to move in the league? Kurt Thomas.
Starting point is 00:21:44 My rookie year. Spent a lot of time with him. about how to be a pro and how to move in the league? Uh, Curry Thomas. My rookie year. Um... Spent a lot of time with him. Um, taught me how to play cards, taught me just the life about the NBA. Especially after I scored 55. Um, he was just... Set me down, just talked to me about just how the league goes
Starting point is 00:21:59 and how it is, so... Um, yeah. Curry Thomas. OG. Gil, how about yourself? Probably rookie second year, Adonafoil and Dampier. Eric Dampier.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Yeah, he taught me how to, like, save money. Right? Like, let's say he wanted, he wanted a rug or something, he'd wait until it go on sale because that's the rug he wanted to complete his... He takes years to complete his house. If he sees something, he's going to wait until it goes on sale, blah, blah, blah. I mean, obviously, I didn't listen.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I forgot I had that kind of patience. I want it now. Those were the vets that really taught me how to do things which I didn't listen to. So, you know, Donald Foy was more of the professional style. Obviously, I didn't do that. But I was taught that. If he taught you that, but you didn't listen. Did he really teach you anything?
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah, I mean, like if I wanted it today I was all right I'll go back home and see if I still want it and get it and then get it tomorrow next day so yeah I was just having nice dialogues great dialogue not teaching you much is listen I can be honest it's easy to listen to people with money when you don't have it. Oh, yeah, saving. Oh, that's good. Yeah, I can't. Yeah, when I get my money, I don't. Soon as you get that check.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, right to the store. Let me get that. Fuck what he talking about. Really? Because it's your time. Yeah. When it's your time, it's your time. You talked about spending the bulk of your rookie check on an Escalade that you
Starting point is 00:23:48 used to drive to and fro Oakland and LA to go to Sunset. What other purchases did you make that you probably shouldn't have when you first got to the league? No, when I first... No, that was the only purchase. I mean, I shouldn't have bought the dolls because I was trying to feed them too when I didn't have the money. But when I got my first check, my big one, the Playboy Mansion pool in my backyard,
Starting point is 00:24:23 the dude who built Hugh Hefner's grotto, I had him come down to Virginia and build me the grotto even better. 2.0. Did you use it? No. It was for pool parties, and I never threw pool parties.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Oh, it's a waste. Yeah, it was a waste. So I didn't really swim in it. Because when you're in the season, you're not really home like that. You're not really home. Like, were we ever home at least 10 days in a row? No, not in the season. Yeah, we're not during the season.
Starting point is 00:24:54 You know, during the season, like, kind of cold, so you're not really joining a pool. And then as soon as the summer hits, you're back to wherever you come from. So I didn't really get to enjoy it like that. All right, well, let's move on to some basketball. Unfortunately, Rashad isn't here to defend MB, but we got to talk about big moment. Can't support you on that, Gil. Rashad, a vital member.
Starting point is 00:25:18 The Gills are going to present my underdog fantasy, Woodley. Woo-hoo! After being sidelined for more than two months and undergoing surgery to repair meniscus in his knee, reigning MVP Joel Embiid made his return to the court, posted this photo. Don't know if he was forced to do it. Blink twice.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Everything don't need a photo, too, I think. Yeah, bro, like what? Not everything requires a photo. Like what? That's why. Shit like that. Everything don't need a photo, too, I think. Yeah, bro, like what? Not everything requires a photo. Like what? That's why. Shit like that. Everything don't need a photo. But he made his return to the court.
Starting point is 00:25:51 The Sixers announced the news shortly before the game against the Thunder with this photo. So OKC didn't have their top two scorers in SGA and Jalen Williams. But the Sixers didn't have Maxie either. Did not matter. Embiid actually surprisingly did well. He was gassed, but he still managed to bust a Thunder's ass. Dropping 24 points, six rebounds, seven assists, and three steals in a little over 29 minutes of game action. All things considered, Gil, missing two months.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I know you're not the biggest believer in him. He did he did look solid out there late in the game Made a big steal on Josh Giddey Got fouled by Chad Holmgren knocked down the two free throws to help the Sixers extend their lead and after the win Shared a moment with Allen Iverson who was in attendance So Lexi I'll start with you because you may have some positive things to say. Yeah. What did you think about Embiid in his first game? Man, he missed positive. I mean, all I said was we got to watch his conditioning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:52 That's all I said yesterday was them who was like, he should pack it up. So, he played it. I mean, I didn't watch the game, but you said he was gassed, which was expected. Yeah, but still a 24-piece, shot well from the field. Yeah, he shot 12 free throws. He boylaid, what, under 30 minutes like we said he would. So, yeah, just has to get his conditioning together if he wants to make a real impact in the playoffs. Brandon, you were aligned with Gil saying he should park it, as the young kids say, for the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:27:23 But what did you think about him beating his first game back? He was gassed. He was just gassed. But anything other than that? I mean, they didn't even have a full squad. Okay, see, so that just shows you how trash they are. Fuck. I'm not buying the hype.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Fuck that. Next. You know anything positive to say about him beating his return to the court with the Sixers? It ain't about positive or negative. It's what's his upside. That's my thing. Like, you know, he was the MVP player, first team, scoring champ, and lost it all. Right? Your team suffered.
Starting point is 00:28:20 You guys are in eighth spot. You're going to win. You might go 7-0, 6-1, and still be in eighth, ninth spot. I mean, if they go 7-0, 6-1, they could jump to that seventh or sixth seed. Seventh spot, you still play who? You still play Bucs. You still play Boston. So my question was always, do you think you can win a championship? Right?
Starting point is 00:28:51 When they were healthy, no, they was not a championship contender. Right? Once they lost James Harden, no one's like, oh, they're going to ood. Let's worry about them in the championship. So the fact that you do have a guy who's not fully 100% right he's coming back from injury what is the purpose what is your what can he do that makes the organization feel like this was a great year nothing the only thing that so right now if he doesn't win a championship you're still like yeah eh. Eastern Conference Finals, eh.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Second round, eh. First round, eh. So the fact that you win nothing here, the only thing you can do is lose. If he gets hurt, he tweaks it. That fucks up the summer. That fucks up anything that's moving forward for the organization itself. There's no win here. So you talk about it from your perspective now as a former player
Starting point is 00:29:44 and all the things you double with the injury, but if you weren't in B's position Loving the game of basketball. I want to get back out there to try to help your team Well, you wouldn't do it. Well When you say loving the game you like in the game, please say like it because when you say loving like that puts that puts Taking care of your body and all of that, the Kobe's, the Jordan's, the LeBron James, the Steph Curry's,
Starting point is 00:30:12 how they take care of their body and get in shape for it, that's the love of the game. Right now he likes the game. When he takes that extra step and he comes down to 270, 265, looking real in shape, then we can start talking about the love of it. Right now he's just super talented, but you know, why do I want him back right now? That's my thing, what's the purpose?
Starting point is 00:30:37 But I'm saying if you were him, you wouldn't get back on the court? He already lost out on everything, right? He can't get nothing. He can't win nothing. I think the summer is big for him. That's what I said. This summer is his big thing. The Olympics is bigger than finishing out the season to me.
Starting point is 00:30:52 In this case. Lexi, do you agree or disagree with their sentiments? If you were in Embiid's position, would you want to get back out there and try to help him? I mean, we're not. We don't know what his. I'm just saying, if you were hurting, you had the opportunity to come help your squad, try to make a playoff run. I mean, if I was capable, yes, I'm going to go play.
Starting point is 00:31:13 But I was in a position, I mean, I was sick, not hurt, where I was trying to come back and play. And it's just like, sometimes if you can do it, you can push through it, which I was doing to a certain point, then you can't feel like you can give all you can give, then you should sit. But if he feels like he can give all he can give at that moment, I think that is better than an Embiid-less Sixers.
Starting point is 00:31:34 But if his aspirations are a championship, then no, it doesn't make sense at all. But we don't know what his intentions are. I mean, I think we've all said that even before this even started, the Sixers' likelihood of winning a chip was very small. Well, I mean, this takes away all of media's theory on load managing. And why do you say that? Because you have a player who, because of the 65-game rule, he jeopardized the season trying to make sure he played.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Now he's injured, right? If he was load managing, he wouldn't even come back, right? So the fact that he still wants to play kind of throws away that theory, right? I don't know if they've realized, but a lot of players, star star players have actually went down because of this 65 game rule right Donovan Mitchell missed his his season up because of it right where he's sitting there and looking at the games and realized oh shit I'm at 65 games I need to play now comes back plays one two games and he's back hurting it Yeah, right, but you Halle burden you can see yeah
Starting point is 00:32:50 We've also talked about the other side of it was 30 or 40 million extra dollars at play Guys are gonna get out there to hit that minimum So do you feel like anything for is 40 million dollars extra on your contract and you got shoe deals and you got it's it's it's you right it's who you are like when you're talking about what my legacy is over with when y'all start going to certain things there's going to be an MVP that was given to someone else that should be his there's a first team that should be here there's a scoring title he's going to be missing right that other players got right so when we're sitting there trying to figure out who's the best, and we're saying, well, you don't have two MVPs.
Starting point is 00:33:29 This person got MVP. This person has a scoring title. And you're sitting there like, well, bitch, back when I played, they put a fucking rule in that they didn't have in before. Right, right. Right, right. No, for real, yeah. So, you know, I mean, it becomes this weird.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I mean, the game is evolving, but it's this weird space. 15 years from now, someone's going to have to dig under the hood and see what happened here. Brad, you agree with Gil on this side? Yeah, it's going to get nasty. I mean, but for the most part, I mean, look, if he wants to come and play, lose in the fucking first round, do you. All right? If you get hurt or something, tweak, don't look at nobody else. It's like, hey, it's your body.
Starting point is 00:34:15 You know how you're feeling out there. But let's look at the other side. I think we've been thriving on negativity in this NBA conversation. If he's able to lead these Sixers, just say, pass the second round to the Eastern Conference Finals, would you consider that season a success for him? That's them. Do they consider it successful? Have they been already? No.
Starting point is 00:34:33 It has not been passed the second round yet. The process has not gotten passed the second round? So, yeah, it would be a success then. Okay. If they got to the Eastern Conference Finals, yeah, it would be a success. So you're risking your future. You're risking your future
Starting point is 00:34:44 just to say you went to the East Carolina Final? Because if he gets hurt to the point where he's going to miss the beginning of next year, now that would be a disappointing season. You win today to lose later. Lose now because it's already
Starting point is 00:34:59 a loss, right? The season, your season's lost. You're in a situation where you're not the 4-5 seed or the 3 seed. You're at the point where you're 7-8, so you're facing the guys you wouldn't want to face until the Eastern Conference Finals. Right? You're facing them first round, so...
Starting point is 00:35:17 So you're like, cut your losses now. Yeah, you're, I mean, like, that's what I'm saying. You're going to be playing, let's say bucks Then your second round becomes easy. Then you face Boston Like what does that do to that what does that do to him?
Starting point is 00:35:36 So Rashad not here today active in the group chat right now. He texted the following stop the cap, please stop The cap on what Gil can't say he wrong. LOL. I'm waiting for the text to keep up. What am I capping on? It's not a... It's an opinion. Yeah. But I'm just... From the standpoint... But if they do get to the Eastern Conference Final, that, I mean...
Starting point is 00:36:00 But I'm saying, if he goes to the Eastern Conference Final... Let's say he gets to the Eastern Conference Finals and then, like, last last year he tweaks his knee. Is that successful? Hell no. No, not now because then you're going to miss the Olympics. Let's say he goes and none of that happens. I know obviously from your guys' perspective as former players.
Starting point is 00:36:16 They're not saying that he's not capable. They're just saying why risk it if you're not feeling 100%, but we don't know how he feels. I saw it last night. I mean, obviously he's out of shape. I mean, I played two months. That's what I said. We can't tell gas or limping. We don't know which one, but all I'm saying is right,
Starting point is 00:36:36 you're thinking about the future. This is, what is it, 30, 31, 32? You can't afford for him to actually... 30 years old, turned to 30. You can't afford for him to actually take a real hit. You want to make sure this asset is set for the next five years. That's all. I'm thinking about the longevity of his career. Rashad is responding again. He said, where is the competitive spirit? He is competing regardless. Did he know I'm
Starting point is 00:37:09 Wasn't he telling us how he was over competitive and hurt himself He just told us that story like Just because Embiid is in B doesn't mean that chasing Not even as over competitive on the dude dude he just seen in the club. Seen him at the function. But that's understandable. I got to get back in the gym. Yeah, like, you just got to be smart.
Starting point is 00:37:32 That's all. But that's the reason that most players lose their career. They're so competitive that they're not listening to their body. Right? The competitiveness of the person is the reason that they lose career.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I didn't want to lose my spot. So I'm not listening to my knee. I lost my career. I did the same thing last year. Can we give him a little credit though? I think obviously- What are we giving him credit for? I'm saying it's his body. So if his body wasn't feeling right, he would shut it down.
Starting point is 00:38:00 If he feels like- Says who? But if he feels like he can go out there and contribute and help this team- But we're talking about a guy who just did that he's coming back because he did that right isn't that why we're here he was he seemed at 65 games is coming he needed to play his competitive spirit put his ass out there he gets injured then he has to sit for two months Am I captain That's right. It's his spirit put him out there Hallen Burton out there Hobbling his that's the spirit. Oh, and now they probably done
Starting point is 00:38:36 Indiana ain't gonna be nothing in playoffs. I mean, that's what said like we were athletes are our push to be Competitive right? Yeah, athletes are pushed to be competitive, right? Yeah. We're pushed to, if it's 50%, if it's 75%, you go out there and play. So we literally have this in the back of our mind. We're going to go out there and show these people that we're hurt. Because me going out there, giving you my all while I'm hurt,
Starting point is 00:39:08 you're going to give me an applaud. What was the applaud that Dwight Howard got in Los Angeles off that back surgery? Back surgery, he's supposed to miss the whole year. He was there for the beginning of the season. Made the all-star game. What was his applaud? No, he got booed. Yeah, boo He got booed out of LA. Yeah, right. Where was the applaud for Kawhi Leonard coming out there trying to play with a stye? I mean Paul George both surgeries on his
Starting point is 00:39:40 Both shirt or shoulder surgeries hitting the side of the backboard, we get to giggling and laughing. No one gives a fuck about your injury. I mean, even Tatum last year in game seven with the ankle. The ankle. You lost. We don't care about your grit and grind. Tell that to your soul when you go home. It only works if you win the game.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Then Heroic. Yeah, that shit when you're thinking Michael Jordan flew season, shit like that. I done scored 60 walk-off. That shit is not for everybody. You sitting there limping, niggas blowing past you. People going to be like, yo, sit your ass down. Michael Jordan flu season shit like that. I don't score the 60 walk off that shit. It's not for everybody Yeah, you sitting there limping niggas blowing past you people gonna blow yo sit your ass down What happens if and B plays right and then they sit there running around and put his ass to pick a roll He's holding his knee next thing. You know, why is he coming back so early? Hurting the team.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Hurting the team. Can't put him out there. I mean the same shit, man. No one gives a fuck. But my point with all this is it works both ways. You guys as competitors, you can say that now, your career is over, and it may not be wrong, but if you were in that position,
Starting point is 00:40:40 you had a chance to help lead your team to the playoffs and do something. You as Gilbert Arenas, would you? I can't bend my knee because of that. Man, if we look in the way we're looking, I got Olympics coming up, bro. And you feel like Olympics is more important than the NBA season? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Right now, in his case. For him, I mean, it's not even about the Olympics. It's the career. One game, six games at the end of the season is not worth 82 games next year. That's all I'm saying. I still want to play in the Olympics, though. Yeah, I mean, if he's healthy when the Olympics comes, yes.
Starting point is 00:41:19 For sure. All right, well, let's keep it moving and shaking, as the young kids say. We knew the Iowa-LSU matchup was going to be a historic night, but now it's been confirmed. The Elite Eight game featuring Kaitlyn Clark and Angel Reese had 12.3 million viewers. Jeez. I repeat, 12.3 million viewers, which is the most for any women's college basketball game ever. And just for context, the game did more numbers than 2023 NBA Finals, World Series, the Orange Bowl, Big Ten Championship, Cotton Bowl, Pac-12 Championship, which isn't really a
Starting point is 00:41:51 brag, Big 12 Championship, ACC Championship, Peach Bowl, Thursday Night Football, and every 2023 college football regular season game except Ohio State versus Michigan. So Lexi, what does this record-setting game mean for women's basketball and women's sports in general? Yeah, it's amazing. I've just always said, like, I know that everyone is really caught up in the hype of like right now, which they absolutely should be, but you can't watch something if it's not available for you to watch. So the fact that they have put all these games, they've put all these players out in the forefront, it means something.
Starting point is 00:42:27 It means that these broadcast channels believe in the product, believe in these players. So it's exciting. I mean, I knew that this game was going to go crazy, and it didn't disappoint. We had two really good games on Monday night. So I'm just glad everything's living up to the hype. And is it time to end that argument that people don't care about women's sports, I think?
Starting point is 00:42:48 Oh, at least, I mean, it's been... Been dead. Yeah, so I'm not going to say too much because y'all be getting mad at me. So just look at the numbers. It's fine. One of these 12.3 million viewers
Starting point is 00:43:03 ever so briefly was Gilbert Arena. So, Gil, we want to just salute you for doing your part. And I may have to do my part. Check in. Watch my... Got my view in. Click, click. Appreciate your view, Gil. Appreciate your view.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Appreciate you for not turning the lights off like you did at Arizona. Ooh, turnover. Sounds about right. Click, click. It was turnovers in every level of basketball. Missed layups. Missed layups in every level of basketball. No, you're not talking about how your Arizona team played in that Elite Eight game.
Starting point is 00:43:35 It was enjoyable to watch for some. Watch y'all get packed up. Yeah, please. So in other news, yesterday we talked about Angel Reese having today as a deadline to make the decision or whether or not to stay at LSU or go to The WNBA she has made that choice Angel announced today that she is entering the WNBA draft in an exclusive interview with Vogue That's that's that's Well listen though she probably had made the decision at least you know a while ago
Starting point is 00:44:11 You know I drop it Drop it that's fire How I mean I don't think I've ever seen anything of that magnitude to make a pro announcement. No, that's I Mean it mean you're right. Her decision had been made already. So, I mean, I think that interview she had after the game, it makes more sense now because it's like, okay, I'm washing my hands of this college experience
Starting point is 00:44:38 and I'm letting y'all know how I've been feeling. And a lot of people were still invalidating how she felt, which is really disappointing, especially some of the other male platforms that I've seen. Very disappointing on how they invalidated how she felt. But for her to do that on this platform at this level, and for her to decide to forego that last year of eligibility is amazing for the W.
Starting point is 00:45:04 It's amazing for her. It's amazing for women women's basketball and now y'all ain't got no choice but to watch us this summer so we start May 15th May 15th and you know she's gonna be in a studio that's what correspondent we'll get that's gonna be a teammate yeah I was in person about say to say, what draft pick they got? Two and four. Two and four. Oh, yeah, she's definitely going to LA. 1000%.
Starting point is 00:45:29 And you think Sparks take her with two or they take her with four? I have no idea who they're going to take. I'm just... Do you think? I don't know. How about this? Who is the second best player in the draft? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:40 You don't know who the second best player is? No. No. It really depends on what teams need and what they want. What do y'all need? We need rebounding bigs. And there's a lot of great rebounding bigs in this draft class. So y'all can get two with the two and the four?
Starting point is 00:45:57 I'm just glad I'm not the GM right now. But there's really not a bad decision, in my opinion, for our picks at two and four because I think the picks between two and eight are all super, super talented future WNBA pros. They're all going to make the team, I'm pretty sure. So you can't really go wrong. Is the girl from Stanford coming out? Mm-hmm. What is she?
Starting point is 00:46:21 What do you mean? Big? Yeah. So, hypothetically. Hypothetically, we are going to get a very elite big. So, you can get technically her and... We can get two very good bigs. Or guards.
Starting point is 00:46:36 We're going to be cracking regardless. Y'all guard it up. We guard it up. We guard it up. Fuck off. I'm very excited about this. I'm excited about this draft. We don't need no guards over here.
Starting point is 00:46:44 No. We're good. I'm excited about this draft. We don't need no guards over here. No, I'm excited about this draft. So we talked about Angel and her potential impact the next level. Does anybody want number 10? I don't think so. Ah! Woo! But we know who Gil wants as far as to pick.
Starting point is 00:47:00 No, I'm just saying, it's L.A. Those are the type of personalities. Vogue magazine, boom. Yeah. Turn up. So, Lexi, we talked yesterday about Angel and making that move to the W. Obviously, you've done that. What's the most important thing she needs to focus on to get her game right,
Starting point is 00:47:19 to make that transition from LSU to playing in the W? I just think she needs to be a sponge. And I think that's all rookies. That's the biggest thing I took from my rookie season was just being ready to learn, ready to be challenged, and just be ready for your opportunity because there's a lot of opportunities for her in this league, even in her rookie season.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And I know yesterday we were talking about how she needs a lot of development. But where's the best place to develop if it's not against the best players in the world? So she just needs to be ready and keep that edge that she has. She's at where she is for a reason, and we're ready for her, and we're excited that she announced to come to the W. But yeah, be a sponge because there's going to be a lot of information thrown at her
Starting point is 00:48:02 in a very short period of time. The draft is the 15th. She has less than a month till she starts playing So just get ready For sure. It's a draft is the 15 Yes this month yes Wow Yeah, get right to it. Don't they only get like 48 hours to make a decision? So the after that elite eight game they I think, a Wednesday deadline today. It's crazy how long.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Yeah, so we lost, my senior year, we lost Sweet 16. I technically declared the next day. Draft was 10 days after that, and then I had to go back to class. I had to finish up my semester. Didn't get to go to graduation, missed graduation. Why'd you have to finish? Was that your own choice, or did you have to? I was in grad school, so I was going to finish that.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Oh, you're getting that. But I had to take my exams two weeks early. Didn't get to walk in graduation because I had to be in training camp. So it happens fast. That's wild. Yeah. Hey, can you still take online classes to get education? Yeah, I had some teammates in training camp
Starting point is 00:49:05 that were still taking their online stuff, but I wanted to be over... Now, in the workplace, does that... Does it count? What do you mean? Your online classes? I think they all fold into the same degree. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I see your brain turning, Gil. You say you like school, right? Mm-hmm. What? You know, I'm still a freshman. You got four more years in right? Mm-hmm. What? You know, I'm still a freshman. You got four more years in school if you need it. Got a nice check for you. Get that point, too.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Raise that point, too. I got my degrees. I'm cool. You know. I'm good. You said degrees. I don't need, I don't need, I just need one. Two of them.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Because you need a degree to be an agent now, right? I don't need one. Two of them. I need... Two of them. Because you need a degree to be an agent now, right? I don't think so. I don't think they tried to hit Rich Paul with that, but I believe he was able to circumvent it. Yeah. I think you just got to be certified, right? Yeah. It's still a level of education, though. Circumvented it.
Starting point is 00:49:57 A little hundred, 200,000, and go ahead and slide right there. Little check, go ahead and... But Gil, you're already an agent. Agent 12. You get in there typing it in. You're already an employee. Just don't put in there typing it. You're already an agent 12. Just don't put your name on it.
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Starting point is 00:51:56 with you how much longer will the warriors big three stay together clay said to become a free agent this summer how much longer do you think this warrior's big three has left in them together i think this is the last of it just the last dance yeah i think this is i don't think we see them three no more together after this season yeah i think after that last time draymond got kicked out i think that was it but drake's coming back had a big block last night yeah that's cool emotional leader yeah that's cool the tensey holding on i think it's time to just move on. It is? So, of those three, who do you think they should move on from?
Starting point is 00:52:30 Like I mentioned, Clay, set to become a free agent this summer. They should be able to get him at a reasonable price point if they do choose to re-sign him. I mean, if you had to, I'm gonna probably move Dre. Why would you move Dre, man?
Starting point is 00:52:47 I mean, I don't even know if he really wants to play basketball. Yeah. Honestly. And I think it's something off the court, so I don't know. Some bigger issues than what's going on. Well, Lexi, let's move over to you. How much longer will the Warriors' big three stay together? Yeah, I think this is the last of it, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:53:08 It's over. This is it? Yeah. Yes. Yeah, it's over. I think, I don't know. I would assume that, I don't know where they can move Dre. So I think Klay can control his own destiny at this point
Starting point is 00:53:25 and go where he wants instead of getting shipped off somewhere. So it's not going to be Steph, obviously. But it's over with. It's done. We've talked about this throughout the season. Season's coming close to a conclusion. Still uncertain, even with that 10th spot, if the Warriors will be able to manage to win two games in the play-in to actually reach the playoffs and get that eighth seed.
Starting point is 00:53:49 But how much longer will the Warriors' big three stay together? Big three? They're fine. They're staying together. The reason I say this is because if they can bring, if they can get Clay back for pennies on a dollar, they're going to do that, right? And then from there, they have so much money that they can sign Paul George and someone like that. So if they can sign Paul George and bring Clay off the bench, then the big three is relived because now it's a bigger three.
Starting point is 00:54:16 A big three. 3.5, right? So, you know, you bring Paul George in like KD came in, right? You have another weapon. So it all depends on clay like we know Draymond is on the contract stuff is on the contract. So if clay leaves then yet a big three is over with but I don't see them trading Draymond, I don't see I don't see them trading because what they're gonna get back for that same price Right. I mean they can but they're gonna trade with cominga. I mean, they can, but they're going to trade with Kaminga and...
Starting point is 00:54:47 I mean, not Kaminga, but you're going to trade Clay and Draymond and try to get another superstar. You can do that sign-and-trade and get rid of both of them and bring somebody in. Clippers, right? Do a sign-and-trade with Paul George, and now you have Paul George, Kaminga, and... Is Clay a restricted free agent?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Klay is a restricted free agent. A restricted... But what do you gain by keeping Draymond? Like for your future, like other team, like yeah, like what is it, like what are you gaining? You gain an all-around player. He's the glue. Once you think about it, when he doesn't play, they're not... They're easier to beat when he's not there. It's harder to beat because he does everything else.
Starting point is 00:55:28 So, you know, if you can sign Clay, bring him off the bench, you sign... Let's say they did get Paul George. What type of team would it be now? Draymond Craziness won't be... He wouldn't be doing that because they're going to be winning on the most part.
Starting point is 00:55:43 But we don't know that, though. Yeah, we do. We've seen how he was during the championship run. I think it's cooked. I think we're just making excuses. I think it's cooked. I think the situation is just cooked. It's either Steve Kerr gotta go or something, but
Starting point is 00:55:57 I think the whole situation is just cooked. Yeah, I think Kerr got two years left on his contract, a lot of bread due to him. 17.5 will pop. Woo. Damn. And I need all of my money. I just think we're making excuses. What are you going to do, though? Because if you're going to break it up, then what are you doing with Curry?
Starting point is 00:56:15 Just letting him rot? Because if you're going to break it up, then you might as well trade Curry, too, for some younger pieces. Right, because you don't want to rebuild with Steph still at a high level. You're not going to have enough time to get rid of them and then rebuild for Steph. So what would benefit Steph more, keeping Clay or keeping Draymond? Both. Okay, well, assume that that's not possible. Which one?
Starting point is 00:56:38 You're the GM. You need a shooter next to you. Probably Draymond. Because it keeps the wolves off What wolves Anybody who want to hit that's what I'm saying. I want to hit him that bad ain't nobody scared man It's just a new NBA nobody scared man Man, you see how he cold-line him over the zone. They ain Yeah, he's scared. Ain't nobody scared. It's the new NBA.
Starting point is 00:57:05 Maybe back in y'all era. Scared of getting hurt. Maybe back in that early 2000s, but ain't nobody scared. They're not scared of Draymond. They're just scared of his antics, which is not the same. They're not scared of him. They're scared of what he's going to do now. I wouldn't be scared.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I mean, he on like two strikes. So it's like, go ahead. He's like on two strikes. Go ahead, hit me. Hit me. If you're American, you have nothing to fear. Hit me. I wouldn't I mean he don't like to strike so it's like it's like oh, yes Hit me if you're American you have nothing to fear Not just anything you got a passport. I'm saying is if you can get him for cheap if you can get clay for cheap Right. That means you have a lot of money to actually go after somebody. All right, and if you can pull in a Paul George or a James Harden, something like that that can give you extra spark,
Starting point is 00:57:50 and you got Clay coming off the bench. Well, I don't think Clay has to sacrifice that much. I'm about to say, yeah. But for what, though? For what, more championships? They've won enough. So if you ask a player of that caliber to do something like that, if you are desperate for a championship win now.
Starting point is 00:58:06 They've already won. So for people to assume that Klay would want to even willingly accept a discount to rebuild. Where's he going to get paid? I wouldn't even say a discount. Like a lot of teams would pay him. Discount to rebuild, but this is where he spent his entire career, just that fear of the unknown. I might take a little bit less bread to stay here, stay with my guys, and not have to now. Just get ridiculed
Starting point is 00:58:30 unnecessarily for another season? I seriously think it's going to hurt Klay more if he get out of there. Dre, I feel like... Dre's going to find a way. Dre's going to go home. Dre asked him to go home. Yeah, Klay? Klay... I mean, depending on what team. You know, he can play with the Lakers and fit right in.
Starting point is 00:58:48 He can play with... I don't think so. I think it's just... Like a shooter like that? Indiana? Shit. The way they play? I'm talking about the way they play. Indiana? From the Bay to Indianapolis? Not a move you're making?
Starting point is 00:59:02 Phoenix? That's what I'm saying. He's at a situation where he's too old to try to establish his individual talent. He is what he is. So his value is his value. A dude that's going to be a spot-up shooter, and hopefully he can bring in about 15 to 19. So you're going to be third option, fourth option on a really really great team a mediocre team
Starting point is 00:59:32 you can pull off a second option but shit you ain't even a second option on your team right now so we asked to chat with Warriors big three last beyond this season 65% said it's over. I don't know, though. Now we think about All-Star Weekend next year up in San Francisco. It's going to be great. They might just one last time. I don't know. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Maybe, though. It all depends on Clay. If Clay's going to try to hit me over the head for $100 or any of that, then I won't have extra money to go get anybody, which means now I have to make a decision. Well, that money's gone
Starting point is 01:00:12 anyway, because Dre got that. They gave Dre money. They can find... They always find some bread. You can always find bread. Or take this discount. I got this tech deal for you. You can always find bread when you're a billionaire. I got the new Uber for you, Clay. Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Just put a little bread in there. But we will remain to be seen on how the Warriors will fare the rest of the season. They're in the 10th seed right now. Looking like that they'll make the play-in. They're not making it. 10th seed. That's where they're going. 10th seed.
Starting point is 01:00:38 That's it. I don't think they're going to make it. No, no, no, no. We got it right here. No, I don't think they're going to be in. Houston's still behind them? Houston's a few games behind them now. A few.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Yeah. Timsey, they're playing against Sacramento. They might be in Sacramento. No, Timsey's going to play the Lakers right now. Didn't I just tell you what's going to happen? I'm saying. They might be out of here. Lakers going to be in the sixth seed, brother.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Lakers going to be in the sixth seed, brother. Lakers going to be in the sixth seed, right? We're one game out of the sixth seed? Two and a half games right now, man. Okay, we there. Six games for me. Two games out of the sixth seed, right? So that means Sacramento's going to slip. Golden State going to play them and fit.
Starting point is 01:01:23 We good, baby. Sacramento currently owns a tiebreaker. Then the NBA gets all they see. They get, we can push out New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:01:31 We can push out Sacramento. We can push out Sacramento and New Orleans, baby. And then you've got a dream team of superstars in the
Starting point is 01:01:40 playoffs. Scott Foster, get to work. But there's also the other situation where if the Kings, Suns, and Lakers all end up in a three-way tie, the Lakers would lose. They have the tiebreaker over the Suns right now.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Do not have it over the Kings. But if they all end up tied at the end of the season, the Lakers will fall to the bottom of that trio. I'm going to let you know this. When you start seeing certain refs playing some play-in games, you already know the fix. Pagey Scott Foster. Allegedly,
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Starting point is 01:02:25 faced off on Tuesday night. You know he got a podcast so he can come after you. OJ? OJ Blake? Sorry, that shit was funny. That shit was funny.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Sorry, I'm sorry. That's a brand referencing a video that is very, very available on YouTube. That shit was funny.
Starting point is 01:02:43 But, Yo Get Your Whimby faced off on Tuesday night and gave the basketball world a show. So Wimby was doing his thing. One particular sequence in the game, Wimby hit him with that scoop very early on. Then Jokic came back down court. Wimby with some nice defense.
Starting point is 01:03:02 Damn. Tried to hit him with a spin. Oh, give me that. Get out of here. Get out of here. Get out of here. Wimby came back down. Did not get the rock from his teammates, so he got it off the line. That's so crazy.
Starting point is 01:03:13 His teammates be hating, huh? They hate him. His teammates be hating, huh? They be hating on him. But Jokic followed it home with a dunk to his grill. So Jokic in the win dropped 42. point sixteen rebounds six times in two blocks and We'll be almost messed around and dropped a quadruple double finishing with twenty three points fifteen rebounds Nine blocks and eight assists. So we've been talking about when these Ami games. Yeah, he also made two threes
Starting point is 01:03:37 So it was another wimpy Gami game Meaning no player has reached or better this that line in the NBA history So we will show you point three points 15 rebounds eight assists one steal nine blocks two threes made nine blocks That's gonna be looking little wait to your three my year three year four. So he's the only one to do this To match or better bet better this that line. What what is the match? I'm just saying so he's only want to do it Nobody's ever matched or bettered this stat line in NBA history. Wow. So the two threes is what puts it in the... Okay, I'm trying to figure out, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:12 So it's the two threes because I'm pretty sure Wilt did something like this properly. Right, right. So it's the two threes. Wilt had no three-point line. There's no nine. Wilt couldn't get nine blocks because there was no block. Oh, there was no block. We got to go back and record that. Yeah, because like I was saying, he couldn't go back. get nine blocks because there was no block. Oh, there was no block. We got to go back and record.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah, because like I was saying, he couldn't go back. What do you mean there was no block? So he averaged 14.4 blocks for his career if they actually had block stats, but they didn't have block stats then. Because they were lazy. So he don't, he don't, so Will don't own the triple-double record or the quadruple record because of the blocks. Did we know when blocks
Starting point is 01:04:45 got introduced? He probably had 10 blocks in the game. What was the reasoning that they decided to... For all these years, they were just watching Wilk beat that shit,
Starting point is 01:04:52 then they were like, all right, maybe we should make this a stat. They said if they actually kept the stat from Wilk came in, he would have averaged 14.4 blocks. Yeah, I believe it.
Starting point is 01:04:59 God damn. And Bill Russell will be behind him with 9.8. 14.4. It was a different time. Per game. Per game.
Starting point is 01:05:11 I don't even think I have 14 blocks in my life. So after this Wimby Joker third time, I saw a stat too. Wimby's got like more blocks than 86.6% of the league in history. But that just means a lot of y'all need to get your D up. So after the game, Oh, hey, yo. After the game, Jokic had high praise for Wimby. When asked by Denver sports reporter Adam Mares
Starting point is 01:05:35 if the Wimby matchup reminded him of his first matchup with Tim Duncan, Jokic said, Wimby did a much better job if I'm a Tim Duncan than I did against Tim Duncan But when you just look at what when B's been able to do this season and we've talked about it The expectation coming in living up to the hype now going up against arguably One of the best centers in the history of the game and almost giving him a quadruple double how impressive What he's doing we see the offensive side, I mean, I think he's just? We see the offensive side.
Starting point is 01:06:05 I mean, I think he's just going to dominate defensively. Like, he's going to do things on the defensive end that's just going to put him above a lot of players he's going to be compared to. Right? He should be first-team all-defense, should win defensive player of the year, and I'm pretty sure every year moving forward, there's going to be a possibility he should be first team all defense, should win defensive player of the year,
Starting point is 01:06:27 and I'm pretty sure every year moving forward, there's going to be a possibility where he's first team all defense every year. I mean, that's just a stat that, like, for him not to be first team, if this is what he's doing as a rookie, when he gets smarter and really understands how to play defense, how to block shots, it's going to be hard to keep him out of all-team first defense and defensive player of the year.
Starting point is 01:06:55 I mean, if he's blocking nine shots, you've got to think about all the shots he's altering as well and just how absurd that is. I mean, Rudy Goldberg is winning it with averaging two blocks a game So, I mean he's gonna I mean just defensively he's just gonna be a monster that I don't think they seen this coming Yeah, I mean as a rookie, I mean you always want to get up for games like this You know against a guy like Jokic so to have a game like that for his confidence and moving forward Yeah, you know I saw you can ask for taking the 42 piece from from Joker Humbly, but yeah silver lining remember we do expect exactly you still just want to have a good like you want to have numbers though
Starting point is 01:07:36 So you expect that like two or three years is gonna get scary though. Yeah It's gonna be scary. I'm also funny. It might be scary might be scary next year yeah cuz you know he gets the finish this year yes they need a fix summer summer going to USA games he's gonna be highlighted yeah and then coming yeah then coming back I mean yeah it's a year two for him hmm it's gonna be a great you're gonna be yeah it's gonna be a good year too so is it possible that when we catch his yoke itic in the all-time discussion in the next five seasons? Wait, what? All-time what?
Starting point is 01:08:11 All-time just in terms of their head-to-head. Gets to that level, basically, of a joker. But all-time, but what is it? All-time what? No one was comparing Wimby to Jokic. I'm just saying the next, just getting to that about? Just getting to that tier, that level. Oh, the tier? Like, oh, like top player.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Yeah, in terms of player rankings. I could see him low-key trying to get MVP next year. See Wimby trying to do that. Yeah, like that second year. Look at the numbers. Just look at the numbers he's putting up. You're looking at this. This is going to be MVP type number.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Once winning, once the team starts winning, there's going to be so much... As I said, he's going to run the table. He's going to run the table one year. He's a kid. He's literally a kid right now. For years though. For years. He's going to run the table.
Starting point is 01:08:57 He's going to do like a five year. He's going to take all the defensive shit. Whatever it is, block shots, steals, deflections. Yeah. He's going to get all of them at one point when he's at his peak. So, do you feel he has the potential to be the best two-way player in NBA history? Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Whoa, whoa, whoa. NBA history? History. I mean, he got a chance. He got a chance. He's not going to have the offensively impact as Michael Jordan. I mean, he could because he's 7'6", so just throw the shit by the rim. Throw it up.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Let me go get it. I'm surprised. I mean, he'll be the first two-way all-timer that the defense may surpass the offense because the defense is so good. Yeah. His offense is still incredible, but because the defense is so good. Yeah. Like, his offense is still incredible, but because, like, his defense is... Yeah, that's what I said. We'll consider it a two-way,
Starting point is 01:09:50 but it's not like our typical two-way players we talk about. We're so mesmerized that we're not even paying attention to his defense because he's so offensively skilled, right? We're not saying, well, damn, this motherfucker's like Rudy Gober and damn Ben Wallace. He's all of that in one, but because he shows so much flash and skill offensively, we're stuck here. Don't realize what is coming on this side.
Starting point is 01:10:16 I mean, but you talk about his ability to score in the paint, but that long range game is going to keep improving as well as he gets older in this league. Yeah. And that was the thing, just even seeing him live. It's like, why don't they throw him more lobs? But then it's like, all right, if he's got to go up and get those, then land in traffic. Just the potential and risk of injury. How did my fucker jump three feet, man, off the ground?
Starting point is 01:10:35 He didn't fucking two feet off the ground, man. Yeah, he took 11 threes last night. Throw it up. That's crazy. Throw him out of the ring. Just throw him in an MVP. I mean, for me, that's what's more scary, especially in this three point driven league. Like once he gets that perfect balance.
Starting point is 01:10:51 I'll be in that MVP conversation next year. Yeah. You're going to have to. Once he starts pulling up from from long, long range. Once he get a little stronger. So over. Once they realize their drive and dive and just throw it by the rim, there's nobody tall enough. He's a cheat code.
Starting point is 01:11:10 There's nobody tall enough to throw a lob to them and they can deflect it out the air. No. Like that. Just throw it up and just hold their head down. Just drop it in. Like if Trey Young went there, it'd be a problem for the league. Oh, my gosh. It'd be a problem for the league. Oh my gosh. It'd be a problem.
Starting point is 01:11:25 I need that though. Because Trey's going to put so much pressure on the rim anyway just driving that the fact that you even think about trying to block him, he's just going to lay that up. Yeah. Yeah. James Harden. You fucking James Harden? That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Somebody like, you know, guys like that, James Harden, guys like James, Trey Young. Eek. James will be a free agent. He ain't going to no San Antonio. But that's... From Atlanta? Yeah, yeah. I mean, Trey Young could go to San Antonio.
Starting point is 01:11:55 But how much of the appeal of being able to play with Wimby outweigh having to live in San Antonio full time? Man. Go play with that boy. He live in Atlanta. Man. Go play with that boy. He live in Atlanta. Like, go play with that kid. I mean, when you winning, you winning. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:12:12 Like, they're at their height of their career. You're not in the city 10 days in a row. So it's not a big, I'm just saying, you have the option now to be able to play with. Because if I'm Trey, and we were talking about Trey a little bit more in a second, but if I'm Trey, that's an easy 12, 13, dime to get once they fill that roster. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:29 That'd be the perfect system for him. Do that whole Tim Duncan and Tony Parker. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Talking about a topic we don't hit very often. We got to hit LeBron. Made some more history recently. The chat's been clamoring for it. Made some more history recently becoming the GO's been clamoring for it. Made some more history recently becoming the gold scorer in all of basketball.
Starting point is 01:12:49 So LeBron passed Brazilian legend Oscar Schmidt in total points, taking into account regular season playoffs and international competition. That's a lot of points. That's a lot of wear and tear on the body. Wait, what? Yeah. So that includes just professional, so regular season playoffs, and also international competition.
Starting point is 01:13:11 A lot of bucking getting, but let's talk about what LeBron's doing. Here goes Gil Crutch. No, no, no, no, no. Go, go. No, because you're doing something. I don't like you. You'll always be up to something. As soon as you look at that phone, it used to be the notebook.
Starting point is 01:13:23 Yeah, where's your handy-dandy notebook? Stole it. We want the notebook. Y'all took it from him. I didn't appreciate all of the notes in there. Wait, that's dude's totals? That's Oscar Schmidt's totals? Because October 5th, didn't he need 3,821 points?
Starting point is 01:13:42 I mean, that's... So some people are saying that's including amateur numbers, and that some people say that Schmidt has scored over 50,000 points, but based on his international pro career totals. Okay. What I believe that graphic is. LeBron has passed it.
Starting point is 01:13:57 But let's talk about LeBron these past two games. He's been on a tear, so after giving the Nets a 40-piece on Sunday, followed it up by dropping 23 points in LeBron-toonto on Tuesday and a win over the Raptors. Combined for 63 points and only six missed field goals total during that span. So he's 23 for 29 in the last two games, 10 for 11 from three. Lakers are on four and one on their current road trip. Final game tonight against the Wizards.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Yeah, Gil, you happy over there? No, you know. tonight against the Wizards. Yeah Gil, you happy over there? No, you know. I know. You know, when a plan comes together. So this Lakers squad reached the Western Conference Finals last year. It felt like people were sleeping on them then. Now, I think they've outperformed their win total already, but the West is much, much deeper than it was last season.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Like, this win total would have had them somewhere in the top four or five. Now they've been holding on to that ninth spot for a while. But are people sleeping on this Lakers squad more than they have in the past? I don't think so. I mean, Suns, Clippers, Lakers, right? Those are three teams everybody had in high regards coming into the season, right? Because there's so much talent that they have on the team. So it's not like you want to play any one of those teams in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:15:24 And, you know, the matchups is going to determine who actually pulls out. But any three of those teams that's in 7, 8, 9, 10 can be in the Western Conference Finals. So even that Warriors squad. No, no, no. Relax. Relax. 7, 8, 9, 10. The 10th seed right now is the Golden State Warriors just that's why I
Starting point is 01:15:53 Mean but shit they could end up in there. Oh the It's about to get very interesting. That's why I heard someone say that they'd be disappointed if, like, KD didn't make it to the Western Conference Finals. And I'm saying, well, you can't give that pressure on just one person because Denver's supposed to make it to the Western Conference Finals.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Sun's supposed to make it to the Western Conference Finals. Clippers' supposed to make it to the Western Conference Finals. Lakers, well, we get leverage, but we're supposed to make it to the Western Conference. Only two can make it there. So two teams are going to falter, right? So you can't put the pressure on one player and say, if you don't make it there, it's a down point. The way this talent is, it is what it is when it comes to that.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Right? I mean... Yeah, the West is stacked. Yeah, we look at the strength of the West in comparison to the East. I mean, you don't really know who's coming out of the West. Like, honestly, you don't... I mean, Denver, but you don't... You know what's funny?
Starting point is 01:17:07 Are we at the point, if Denver don't make it to the Western Conference Finals... Do we care? Do we care? No. No. No. Like, if they don't make it, people will be like, eh. Do you think that's why they play so well?
Starting point is 01:17:21 They play at such like a, you know a even queue all the time because there's really they're the defending champions and there's really no expectation for them to repeat. That's the fucked up that there's no expectations on them dudes to repeat. And they're playing well. They're at the top
Starting point is 01:17:39 of the East. I mean the West. They're playing at a high level. They're beating the shit out of people. Is there no expectation? And everyone's like, meh. Is there no expectation or do we just expect them to be there? It's just weird. Regardless of what we see during the season.
Starting point is 01:17:53 No, but if they don't make it, do you think there's not going to be No one's going to be like. They're going to be like, oh yeah, and then we're just going to keep moving on like they didn't just fucking just. Yeah. Like they were in the third seed, fourth seed, no one said anything about Denver Nuggets.
Starting point is 01:18:07 Like, they were having a bad year, they were having a horrible... No one. Well, they're back at one, though, right? Yeah. I mean, I just feel like people,
Starting point is 01:18:13 they are a well-oiled machine that everyone's kind of just like, eh. You know how they remind me of? They remind me of South Carolina girls. Everyone's just kind of like, they're just really, really good, and they're going to
Starting point is 01:18:26 continue to be really, really good. And then that's how Denver... I know they're top spot in the West, but does it feel like the Nuggets are going to underperform this year building off that championship year? I just don't think... 53 and 20. How can you say underperform if you're number one still? But compared to a team like the Celtics, right, who literally got an 11-game lead in the East.
Starting point is 01:18:46 And everyone's like, they're not even going to get to the finals. Or 12 games now. If Wesson Ame don't make it to the finals, right, and win a championship, we're going to look at him like, eh. Who, Jason Tatum? Jason Tatum, right? Yeah, like it's crazy. If Denver loses in the first,
Starting point is 01:19:02 let's say they play Phoenix Suns in the first round and lose to the Phoenix Suns. That wouldn't even... We wouldn't even say that's an upset. No. I'm like, eh, eh. Good for them. Good for Phoenix.
Starting point is 01:19:13 Good for Phoenix. I mean, they should win. It's just this weird... We're in this weird space where... It don't matter. It's not even keeled across the board when we're talking about teams. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:26 I mean, yeah, if you just directly compare how people talk about the Celtics versus how they talk about the Nuggets, you would think the Celtics were the defending champs. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Not the Nuggets. And they're 12 games ahead of everybody else in the East. But also, I just feel like you watch this Nugget squad and you know that they will turn it up when the postseason happens.
Starting point is 01:19:44 I mean, you call the same thing last year. They were they were heading the west kind of chilled out a little bit i won't say they took their foot off the gas as soon as playoffs started they were right back into it and other than the timberwolves were just like not really worried about none of y'all they don't really have us they just have a good team like yeah jokic is their star but it's just like they're just a good team yeah so i was like i don't care to watch a good team like we want, Jokic is their star, but it's just like they're just a good team. Yeah. So I was like, I don't care to watch a good team. Like we want to see a player. We want to see that. We want to see him. They ain't got like a him. Jokic is not him to you though? They don't have a him. Like he don't even care about like being here. So it's like you don't really have that him type thing.
Starting point is 01:20:18 So it's like- But he don't care, but he be cooking, dude. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But not like Luka be cooking. you know sounds yeah, but not like Luke could be cooking like that's a hell Hey, can I ask y'all a question? Yeah, and I'm doing I want y'all to answer it because they say I hate your roles anyway, okay? We do we hate on a year the fact that you call them all euros when there's a 300 countries around the globe different Yeah, but they all want I think internet no no no because they all know you're not from America. You just all Because I've been internet no no no because they all know you're not from America you just all Because they don't use the word foreigners or international players They say euro because who are the stars here? Is it foreigners or is it the euro players the guys right guys from Europe exact so by way of Africa?
Starting point is 01:21:03 Yeah, so oh Yeah, SGA's that Canadian Guys from Europe, exactly. By way of Africa. Oh, yeah. SGA is that Canadian. Do the big media give Euros this long leash? This long leash of, hey, just play basketball. Right? And they micromanage everyone else. Is that a real thing or is it just me?
Starting point is 01:21:34 Do you think they give Giannis a long leash? Jason Tatum damn near can't be a superstar because a 25-year-old can't win a championship. I think that Jason Tatum of course is very stupid. He's a young kid still. We're not talking about he went to the championship at the age of damn near
Starting point is 01:21:58 22, 23, 24. And then you have Luke over here who's compared to Michael Jordan and he's James Harden He's literally James Harden right a dude who scored a lot of points don't play no defense, right? But we we see what they did to James Harden who didn't play defense. They let the world know he didn't play no defense They let the world know he was a one-sided player. This is all they do. He just it's that Lucas considered the next
Starting point is 01:22:26 Michael Jordan. The Michael Jordan who played defense and offense. And we have one-sided where we go, oh, one-sided. Well, we know what that looks like. That's James Harden. Can he say he's better than James Harden at scoring? Can't even do that.
Starting point is 01:22:44 You can't even argue that he's better scored than James Harden in scoring can't even do that they can't even are you can't even argue that he's a better scored in James Harden in that same category but he's considered the next Michael Jordan and I guarantee they wouldn't even put his ass in front of Larry Bird made the argument who's better Larry Bird or Luka? Media, shut the fuck up then. It'd just be those things, like, well... You know what I mean? I like scoring. You know, I'm just scoring, just scoring. But, like, be fair when you're doing these situations, right? You know, your role has been good,
Starting point is 01:23:23 but let's just be honest. This is two championships in the last, what, 15-some years? Since Dirk? As a lead dog. Like Giannis and Joker? Giannis and Joker. And then, yeah, they-
Starting point is 01:23:35 That's what I said last week. So for all of history, three-year-old championships. So you feel like the American media holds American players to a, I wouldn't say higher standard, but more critical of them than they are compared to... Yeah, for sure. I think they're just so
Starting point is 01:23:57 intrigued with opening up the world to basketball that it's like, they're like that parent that's coaching his kid, right? You're so hard on your own kid, and you let everybody else do that, where your kid starts to despise you.
Starting point is 01:24:18 And that's exactly what's happening with NBA players in the media. Yeah, like the NBA players is hating the American media because like, yo, the dude doing the same thing. We both taking the same chicken. I'm 38 and 12, 36 and 12, right?
Starting point is 01:24:34 I need to pass the ball. I'm a ball hog. The offense ain't worth shit. You know, I'm this type of player. He doing the same thing. Ooh, Luka's the greatest thing since sliced bread. And he's like, ah, come on, dog.
Starting point is 01:24:44 We both doing the same thing. sliced bread and he's like, ah, come on dog. We both doing the same thing This season for Luca I Don't think anybody's put those level of numbers up issue Across the board. I'm just saying with the system rebounds pull it up. I Mean I Mean I thought I out of his mind right now. I thought I saw I thought I saw some shit. I mean, you going to put Luka up?
Starting point is 01:25:09 I'll put Luka's stats up. The James Harden, 36 and what do you have? 36 and 7? How many rebounds? Six. Luka right now averaging 34, 10 assists, 9 rebounds. What the fuck? Now, you want to show that scoring?
Starting point is 01:25:33 Hmm? Because, I mean, besides Jordan or Will, I've never seen someone who scored 20. He scored a 15 and then scored under 30. 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34. Then he scored a 28, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39. 39. Out of 39 games, he scored over 30 or more.
Starting point is 01:26:21 He scored a 28, 29, and everything was 30 and above. Understandable. He was considered just this one trick pony. So what we're doing is because Luca gets more rebounds because he's 6'10", 6'9 1⁄2", we give it some type of, you know, we give it some type of, oh, man, this is great, because the stat looks good, but where's the winning? Where's the defense?
Starting point is 01:26:50 If you're going to call the spade a spade, call it a spade a spade. He does one thing very well. He's scoring. He gets a pass to Mavs. Don't make the playoffs last season. Oh, it's Kyrie's fault. You know, they should be, I'd say,
Starting point is 01:27:04 higher in the Western Conference this season. I mean, he's going to go into playoffs. He's going to go into playoffs. He's going to torch the shit out of whoever guarding him, right? That's what it is, but is he going to stop anybody? No. So, you know, treat all the one-sided players like one-sided players. That's all I'm saying. But it just seems like they get a little leeway, right?
Starting point is 01:27:28 Joker gets a little leeway for only playing offense. You don't... Only black players. Right, no one's ever said, oh man, Joker can't guard nobody. No one cares. Right? No one gives two shits. And from the Joker standpoint, winning the chip, winning the finals, I think is a much different position than a Luka having yet to reach the finals with all the individual accolades
Starting point is 01:27:55 and, like you say, the MJ comparisons. It's like, again, it's that parent who's coaching his kid, right? Do you think because they come over here and they've already been pros? That's what? That's why they give them the leeway? Because they've already been, like, they feel like they're more mature? I think it's just the idea of just, it's something new.
Starting point is 01:28:28 I don't know. Or do you think the media has more opinions on the American players? Because they've pretty much watched them grow up and develop here, whereas the European players are kind of, like Brandon said, they're already pros, they're kind of just dropped in. So the media doesn't really have that many opinions on them prior to them arriving to the NBA, whereas a lot of these American players have been high school, college,
Starting point is 01:28:55 they have all these opinions of them already, and then they get to the pros. It reminds me of, it's like, it's like, you know how when you expect someone to be great, you put them at a pedestal, and they have to be here? It seems like with the year old, it's just, whatever you bring us, we're going to take. Right? You know what I mean? You bring us the championship, great.
Starting point is 01:29:19 You bring us 30 points, great. You bring us, well, Tatum, we expect you to be great. Right? So you be great. If you're not great, then we're going to kill you. Hey, look, great. You bring us, well, Tatum, we expect you to be great, right? So you be great. If you're not great, then we're going to kill you in the pit. Hey, look, hey, Shay, what's happening, right? Anyone that does anything, we're just going to, we're going to give it as praise, but for the most part, it's, you better be great because you are the franchise. You are American. You have the the style you have the charisma so and that's that's what it looks like from sitting and watching it's like you give
Starting point is 01:29:52 one like I have hopes for you I don't have hope for you but whatever you give us trust me we're gonna blow this shit out the park like if the American player did interviews like Jokic. I'm just happy to be here. Yeah, whatever. They'd be trying to find the fuck out that dude. No, that's fair. I think that's a fair statement to make. If Tatum says something, I get it.
Starting point is 01:30:30 I clock in, I clock out. I'm trying to get to these horses. I'm trying to get back to these horses, dog. I clock in my clock I get back to these horses I'm not even tripping yeah there would be a lot more going but but but there's an advantage though the one advantage we do have is yeah I'm gonna say it when they say the face of the the friend the face of the league, you know, it's never gonna be really a euro. Yeah You feel like when B can't be The face of the NBA at some point Think about your company your where's your company? Where's the NBA company at? The NBA company is here. This is it's here. You're selling your product to the American people But what are you you're not gonna be a global game?
Starting point is 01:31:14 But where you work from everywhere where your buyers at? To here in China right where your buyers are your buyers are here Right. So when you're talking about you need to sell something, you're selling something that they can relate to. You're not going to sell something that doesn't even really speak English. You can't sell them. You can sell Wimby because he speaks English, but for the most part, you can't sell.
Starting point is 01:31:39 I mean, you're selling in China. Who? NBA, for sure. Yeah, I mean, you can sell it to China. It's a billion people there's more than here you're selling it but are you but what I'm saying is your station your product is here there is one that could potentially be the face it's Wimby it is Wimby I think but that's a long time from now so young but that's like he's embracing that at least even now at this age
Starting point is 01:32:01 like when so when when I when it was I guess it it was April Fool's when they said, oh, Wimby got his American card. I was like, that makes sense. I mean, it makes sense, right? Because now the U.S. will push him like he's their own. It will make perfect sense. But you're trying to push someone who doesn't even want to be here. He's not going to be here in the summer. He's always over there.
Starting point is 01:32:27 When you're talking about Jokic, there's a reason that his jersey don't sell and the Euro jersey is not popping like that. This is... But what do I know? What are the top jersey sales this year? I'm curious. Oh, top jersey sales this year? I'm curious. Oh. Top jersey sales?
Starting point is 01:32:47 Steph. Steph, LeBron, Tatum. Embiid is like ninth. Maxie's in front of him. Wow. During the MVP run. During his MVP run. And Jokic was 14 out of 15.
Starting point is 01:33:08 He was ranked 14 out of 15. It was interesting seeing that. Jersey Seals. Yeah, well let's... Let's talk about another one of your favorite topics, Gil. The Milwaukee Bucks. Bucks didn't have Dame for their road game against the Wizards Tuesday night,
Starting point is 01:33:24 but still no excuse for taking an L to one of the worst teams in the league, especially with the Cavs creeping closer to moving Milwaukee out of the second spot in the East, and the Wizards did not have Kyle Kuzma on the other side, so makes it even more embarrassing, but nonetheless. Wait, who did you say? Wizards have Kuz. Bucks didn't have Dame. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Kuzma, I mean, Kuzma. Yeah, I know. Don't hate on? Wizards have Kuz. Bucks didn't have Kuz. Kuz, I mean, Kuz. Yeah, I know. Don't hate on your Wizards brethren. Trying to get a bobblehead. So Bucks are now 18-20 on the road this season. After the game, Giannis was asked about the team's struggles to get wins away from the crib. Under 500.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Wow. I don't know. I don't know why. When was the last time you lost from Washington? In Washington? I know you've won six in a row over the Wizards, so a couple years, a couple seasons. Yeah. So, what is it?
Starting point is 01:34:22 It's sticky. I don't know, man. I wish I did. Obviously, we've got to be better on the road. Hopefully, moving forward, the last seven games, we can be... I don't know if we have road games left, but we have to be better, and hopefully we can carry that over to the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:34:40 So, Doc Rivers was also asked about the road struggles. Had this to say. I don't know. I think say, I don't know, I think focus, I don't know what it is. You know it's funny, I've actually been sitting back and watching everything, not just our players but our travel crew, everything, and I've made a lot of notes. I will say that. I won't share that, but we don't bring the necessary professionalism, seriousness on
Starting point is 01:34:59 the road, and that's something that we can fix, and that's something that we're going to have to fix. Not the support staff kitchen. Another stray. They already used that excuse this year. First it was the equipment. Yeah, don't blame the support staff, please. They're not on the court.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Go put your shades back on. Our resident Bucs fan questioning why Doc is still acting like a consultant after coaching the team for the past few months. He said, no need to make notes. You can actually just go fix that. Once you make the notes, like, all right. Like you are now. I don't like how y'all moving. Make decisions.
Starting point is 01:35:38 The glasses on. How concerning are the Bucs' road struggles this season as they get ready for the playoffs? Mr. B, you're a resident Bucs fan. Mr. Bucs is six. The same way Giannis is. 300-500? No, it's not good.
Starting point is 01:35:55 I don't know what to say, man. I was bowling last night. I didn't get the chance to catch the game. I don't know. How is that dude Ernie's house playing Madden, so I didn't see it either. I don't know. Go get proof of life. You all right?
Starting point is 01:36:15 I'll make it short. I was Doc Riverson, baby. I was sleeping on the job. I was sleeping on the job, man. Just collecting this shit, because there ain't no damn way he coaching. I can tell you that for sure. Yeah, I did just collect the check.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Talking about he had to keep notes and shit. What the fuck were you doing as a consultant then, right? Keeping notes and... About nothing that has to do
Starting point is 01:36:38 with basketball. I've been taking notes on all you. He said... What notes? Is he taking notes on himself? You know what?
Starting point is 01:36:46 Listen, if you want me off your back, doc, just do exactly what you're supposed to do. What's going on?
Starting point is 01:36:52 Shit, it's me right now. You know what I mean? I took a job that I shouldn't have took. I should have waited until the summer and then took this job
Starting point is 01:37:00 because right now, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. Can they bring the old coach back for the playoffs? Right, because this is... I mean, what are we talking about? Let me read it again.
Starting point is 01:37:13 It said, I've been actually sitting back and watching everything, not just our players, but our travel crew. Travel crew. Everything, and I made a lot of notes. I will say that. I won't share that, but we don't bring the necessary professionalism,
Starting point is 01:37:25 seriousness on the road, and that's something we can't fix. You told Eric Neiman. You're not going to share it, then you shouldn't even mention that. No, I can't. No, no. No, these facts.
Starting point is 01:37:34 He's been sitting back taking notes. He ain't been coaching. He ain't been coaching. He ain't been coaching. Good job, Doug. He's been taking notes on everything besides... And then not doing your actual job.
Starting point is 01:37:45 If he wanted to sit back and take notes, he could have stayed in his consulting role. I just hope we find a way to get it together. Let me just see something real quick. As I mentioned, Bucks, 18 and 20. 18 and 20 on the road is bad. Hold on. Let's put something...
Starting point is 01:38:04 Because a playoff is about winning on the road. Let's put some of this in context then. What was the... hold on. Can we go to the jumbo and just show Giannis' face? Right there, I just... Yeah, I mean like, he looks like he don't even got no more answers. Whoa, under 500. Because remember when...
Starting point is 01:38:22 That's when you know y'all fucked up. When Giannis and I... You don't when we don't even you don't even know I don't even know what's happening Don't know what's wrong with me Do you do in your doogie house before he was like very adamant about this needs to change this needs to change this needs to Change now. He's kind of loud She I don't know what we got going on no more. So, again, Mr. B, Mr. Bucks in six, you've experienced a Bucks championship parade before.
Starting point is 01:38:56 How confident are you this Bucks squad can beat the Celtics in a seven-game series? I'm a little worried. But if we're healthy, we got a chance. If we're healthy, we got a chance. Definitely talented enough. But I'm a little worried right now because 18 and 20 on the road is terrible. And the season about to end in two weeks. Yeah. What are you looking at?
Starting point is 01:39:24 What was that record? Total record? You total record you said on a row so he's 18 to 20 18 to 20 on the road 18 into it. So so he's lost 11 games as a coach on a row Out of the 20 Mm-hmm. So he's lost 11 of them. So he's lost 11 out of the 20 Bad losses to like that's a bad loss Like something like this, right? Remember I said it remember I said I said the same thing what I was saying about him be
Starting point is 01:40:03 Doc what was the upside of you taking this job? They were third 30 and 13. What was the upside of you taking this job? They were 30 and 13. What was the expectations for you coming here? What was your upside? Because if you lose, this is what we get to do. If you win, you don't get no reward. You don't get no credit for it because, one, if Giannis wasn't hurt, we probably had them winning the championship. Right, your team is second.
Starting point is 01:40:30 You're gonna be second, so you don't get no credit for doing what was already being done, so you don't get no credit. You just get all negativity on this. Right, you're second right now, we're still laughing at you. You could've waited till the summer, let them fail, if they were going to fail or not,
Starting point is 01:40:48 and they'd get the job and have a clean slate at it. Well, like you said, it's that competitive spirit. As an owner, why am I giving you a long deal? You're coming in, you don't prove anything, and I'm signing
Starting point is 01:41:03 you to a $30 dollar deal off the jump Yeah, you got dirt on me There's some weird going on you got dirt on me I Went to one of them parties to something you know you you got a table you got something on me I'm sorry no damn way not one of them parties. Not one of them parties. He went to the party. Somebody got, he got dirt on somebody. He got dirt on somebody.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Good shit, Doc, because ain't no fucking way. You come in, the team is 30 and 13, and I'm giving you $30 million on a team that's already good? A job you want? I'm going to sign you for the rest of the year see what happens then at the end of the year we can negotiate but right now I'm not gonna just just give you three-year deal for what what are you you ain't proven that yet should they could have waited two weeks and realize I hold on yeah we gonna going, you starting off rough,
Starting point is 01:42:06 buddy. I know they're sitting there like, god damn, dog, we could have waited 72 hours. Because they still got to pay, what, the other three, the other two coaches, huh? Still paying Budenhoser, still paying Adrian Griffin.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Niggas out there paying about, what, $30 million in coach salary. What? Y'all some dummies. They're some dummies, boy. I think that when y'all think
Starting point is 01:42:41 NBA upstairs is smart, just think about the Bucs. They got three coaches. They got three coaches. They got three coaches on staff making top dollars losing to the Wizards. Yeah, y'all a smart-ass organization. Hey, give it up for the Bucs.
Starting point is 01:43:00 Y'all make great decisions out there, motherfuckers. There are tons of seasons left. Hey, man. Hey, man. There's a lot left. No, no, no. There's a lot left.
Starting point is 01:43:10 Who else? Listen, listen, listen. There's a lot left. Tons of seasons left to be played. Y'all know that NBA player back in the day, you convinced them motherfuckers about your CD, about to start a record company. Them the ones you talk to right there.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Hey, little owner, I got this record label I want to call. This the money you get. You get to check out this motherfucker. Some successful record label. Some successful on that side. Season ain't over yet. You can sell them motherfuckers anything.
Starting point is 01:43:39 Shaq did have a platinum album. Shaq did go platinum. Oh my God. This motherfucking idiot's over there, dog. I'm sorry, man. I'm going to give you two options. Do you think that the Lakers will be playing deeper into the playoffs than the Bucs? Why are you trying to make this personal?
Starting point is 01:43:56 I'm just... Because when Doc Rivers is watching the show, I want him to get his give back. I mean, listen, they are a two-seed, so... Okay, I'm just asking. I mean... Just ask. And they could... They could get to the Eastern Conference Finals. They could. But. I mean, listen, they are a 2C. Okay. I'm just asking. I mean. Just asking. And they could get to the Eastern Conference Finals. They could.
Starting point is 01:44:09 But, I mean. And are you saying if Doc does lead the Bucs to a chip this year, he doesn't deserve credit for that? Would he earn some of your respect back? He does deserve credit. 18 and 20 and then going to the playoffs. But see, now that's the problem, Doc. That's the problem dog That's the that's the problem what it's like being so good
Starting point is 01:44:32 Fail bring the expectations down to go back to where you were like, whoo That is the American way though. I mean, that's what I mean. Hey, we hit a rough patch now. We right back I'm getting you get you getting You getting you lower the expectations yep and then they see that they look what I did figure it out once playoffs hit boom we go on that Boston run and he had amen not mad at that strategy right beats your logic a little bit does it a little bit all right you turn the team around what do you give you a credit would you Beats your logic a little bit. Does it? A little bit. Hooray, you turned the team around. Would you give your spouse credit for talking to a girl, right?
Starting point is 01:45:17 Talking to a girl, meeting up with the girl, taking her out to eat, boom, boom, boom. Drinking with her at her house, getting ready to take the clothes off, and then don't do it. Are you giving him credit for that? He didn't cheat. He didn't go there. I personally am not. We're not talking about me.
Starting point is 01:45:37 That's what this is. He's doing all this cheating right here. There's a lot of people who would be like, good job. I know if I'm the dude, you better give me credit for it. But I'm just saying of people who would be like, good job. I know if I'm the dude, you better give me credit for it. But I'm just saying, you can't be 30 and 13, fail so bad to go back to where you were, and we give you a standing ovation.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Well, that's what's going to freaking happen, girl. You can do whatever you want. You know that's going to happen if it happens. You know that's going to happen. Hey, hey, who's the owner over there? Lazarie, Eden. I think Who's the owner over there? Lasry, Eden, what did Lasry, when? I think it's three, it's three owners, right? They brought Haslam, oh no, am I tripping? They bought the, they bought somebody in.
Starting point is 01:46:14 I thought it was three owners. Who's that? Yeah, Jimmy Haslam, who I think bought the shares from... Hey, Jimmy, hey, Jimmy, listen. I got this to mark Lazarus Yeah, I got this 300 million dollar idea Just give me the check right now, and then I get idea next week all right And then I you know he might do it good or no if we find out that you've been consulting for the books
Starting point is 01:46:42 Listen I can I can I could have pulled that record off from the couch. That motherfucker's got three coaches on payroll, dog. I think we're going to turn around in the playoffs, watch. I don't care. If it happens, let Gil know about it. Oh, for sure. We will get Gil Guerrero to Milwaukee. For sure.
Starting point is 01:47:02 I'm not giving them credit for something that we thought they were going to do anyway. When they were 30 and 13, it was like, okay, they're going to the championship. If the Bucs go to the finals, we have to do a Gilbert Arena for Milwaukee. We already had them going to the finals with A.J. and Griffin. So what does that get for going there? That's like with Tyrone Liu, right? When he took over for Black? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:24 The way they were playing, they was, what, 41 and something, 30 something? They were number one in the Eastern Conference. Okay, they're going to the chip. So Ty Lue getting the job, taking them to the same place that they were going anyway. They were 30 and 11. 30 and 11.
Starting point is 01:47:41 They made the change. 30 and 11. That means Tyrone was, what, 29 and 12? Did I do that right? I'm waiting. Wait, what team are we talking about? Oh. The Cavs.
Starting point is 01:47:56 The Cavs. The Cavs. The Cavs. The Cavs. The Cavs. The Cavs. Huh? 27 and 14 was tough.
Starting point is 01:48:04 27 and 14. When they won the championship? So he was worse. His record was worse, right? Went into the championship, won, he gets the credit for the championship. It's like, eh. 3-1. Yeah. Greatest comeback in NBA history for those who didn't see that 2016 NBA final. Great finals.
Starting point is 01:48:19 But we will keep monitoring the situation. Playoffs are around the corner. This all may mean nothing in a few weeks. I mean, man, Doc. It ain't going to mean nothing in a couple weeks. What's not going to mean nothing? It's going to be quiet when the playoffs start. Okay, I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:48:34 You. He wants the Bucs, too. He picked the Bucs. Did you pick the Bucs in the evening? No, he didn't pick the Bucs. No, I had the Bucs at the beginning of the season. Then as soon as they got Doc, I'm going to be the only one that's been on the same road. He makes my balls itch.
Starting point is 01:48:48 That's what he does. That's hearing his name. A lot of information to share on Gilderini presented by 100-Dart Fantasy Woo Woo. Right. HR just sent the email. He should have just voted for me for the All-Star game. That's what it all comes back to. He should have voted for him.
Starting point is 01:49:06 No, certain stuff in basketball you can't go. Certain stuff is just beef with certain hoopers. Beef forever. It's beef forever. It's just like don't even say nothing. What if he said sorry? Would that change anything? Ten bucks and six.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Okay. He gives one. I forgive easy. I go on to someone else. All right, let's keep moving. Bucks and six. Bucks and six. That's all I wanted.
Starting point is 01:49:33 My bad. That's all he had to say. He had the pressures above. Come on, when you average at 29, come on, dog. You voting for Keyshawn Prince. That's all. I can't. Let's keep this moving. 29 and I make my bad
Starting point is 01:49:47 No, they had that they was they was they were holding for it was voting for the friends that year I'd have the same level of anger. So during a recent episode of all the smoke Rajon Rondo officially chunked the proverbial deuces on his NBA career It's official you done. Yeah, I'm done. I can't I can't I Gotta spend time. I rather spend time with my kids absolutely we see you enjoy that you know making 200 million dollars and i'm you know telling them certain things they're like ah like now i'm gonna go with my kids over here yeah so yeah when you sit back and look because most of the time in the moment we never get a chance to when we just read your accolades and i'm sure there's a bunch of other
Starting point is 01:50:23 shit we didn't list but just the plane rides the locker rooms the bus rides like when you sit back and look out over what do you think uh what a time you know what I mean like it was uh definitely something that I would never took for granted you know while I was in the game I loved every minute of it and I appreciate the brotherhood that I've was able to share and bond and and grow with over the years you know I mean I learned so much in this game, and it's made me the man who I am today. So in his 16 seasons, he was a two-time champ with the Celtics and Lakers, four-time All-Star, four-time All-Defensive selection. I think he's top 15 all-time in assists,
Starting point is 01:50:59 had four seasons averaging more than 11 assists during his career. So, good, when you look back at Rondo and his contributions to the game, what had made Rondo's game so special? That he was really one of those guys that was really trying to get the best players the ball, right? You know, when you... I remember when someone said,
Starting point is 01:51:20 oh, why don't you need to work on your jump shot? Because my job is not to shoot the ball. My job is to get the shooters the ball, right? So he really, he really dedicated himself to just making sure that the game was being played the right way, the right people got the ball. Yeah. Yeah. Lexi, resident Celtics fan.
Starting point is 01:51:43 Yeah, I remember that championship run they had. That was just a really fun team to watch and to have Rondo just facilitating. He just got everybody the ball where they needed it, when they needed it. And then he had his moments when he was the star of that game, but those were not as often as his teammates. But he was one of the first point guards when I got like a little older that like made me really, really appreciate that point guard role and how important it is to have a facilitating point guard
Starting point is 01:52:12 that knows his teammates or her teammates extremely well, has a good relationship with the coach, extension of the coach on the floor. Like I loved watching Rondo play. Yeah, great point guard, great pass first point guard. Had a great run in Boston on that team. You know, to be able to control all those bets and all those Hall of Famers and, you know, get everybody in the right positions, speak highly of him as a leader, as a point guard.
Starting point is 01:52:40 So, yeah, man, shout out Rondo. Oak Hill alumni, too. Mr. Game, what, Mr. Game 6? Mr. Game 6 for the Lakers when he had 20 points come off the bench? Mm-hmm. Got us that championship here in the Lakers. Whoop, whoop. So LeBron actually spoke on Rondo once the retirement was announced.
Starting point is 01:53:01 Said, one of the best players I ever played with. Obviously, his IQ is out of this world. I was very lucky to get to team up with him. Being in LA and him coming to the Lakers, I was ecstatic about that. I knew what we could accomplish together. Rondo's always talked about if we ever teamed up with me, he knew we could
Starting point is 01:53:16 win a championship and we did that. Also a master of Connect Four, for those who are wondering. What? Connect Four the game. He ain't beating me in Connect Four, for those who are wondering. What? Connect Four the game. Who brought those? You ain't beating me in Connect Four. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Yeah, the heat going in. Your Connect Four game is real vicious. Real vicious. Oh, Connect Four? The Gills Arena Connect Four shootout. Connect Four and- What about Monopoly? You good at Monopoly?
Starting point is 01:53:42 Hell yeah, I'm good at Monopoly. I cheat. How do you cheat at Monopoly other than just taking extra money? Hell yeah, I'm good at it. I cheat. How do you cheat in Monopoly other than just taking extra money? How do I cheat? Taking extra money. Oh, okay. I got the money before the game started. I thought you were going to like...
Starting point is 01:53:52 So you got like, what, three or four games and you go get them? I thought you were just going to be like... You got like three or four games. I already have an extra Monopoly, so I take money out of there just to get you to count money. I thought you were going to pull out from like some cool cheating shit. Just taking extra dollars. I know people who do that. Oh, I mean, I got like with the dice where, you know, I was like, oh, boardwalk and I got 10.
Starting point is 01:54:10 If you ain't looking, instead of shaking it, I just slide it. Oh, eight. Oh, one, two, three. Oh, shit. Never play Monopoly with two. You see it like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know somebody who had like extra money one time playing Monopoly.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Like came back and had some extra money. Oh, I keeps extra dollars. It's Prince of Bill. Monopoly. Uno. What? Board game? I feel like Connect Four is one of the only games that you will not be able to cheat at.
Starting point is 01:54:34 Yeah, you can't. Connect Four? Yeah, you cannot cheat Connect Four. No, I'm talented in Connect Four. I got schemes. I got schemes. I got schemes. Does it matter whether you go first or second? It don't matter.
Starting point is 01:54:49 I got schemes for first. I watch strategies on going second. Strategies going first. Yes, I do all that. All that going in the middle shit. Checkers, eh, depending on the rules. Depending on the rules. What about chess?
Starting point is 01:55:01 Sometimes you can jump. I don't know how to play chess. Checkers? Huh? You go to checkers. Come on But that connect photo What other games are there? I'm nice and monopoly dog and oh no We gonna be taking too long it is an extent I don't know why I can't stop cheating in uno You say you cheated monopoly to like because what I'm saying is, like, if I'm dealing, for sure, I'm going to give you eight cards. I'm going to give myself six.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Right? I do shit like that. Okay, so. Right? Because usually I got two draw fours under my leg at all times just in case I need that shit. What's the joy of winning these games for you, Lee? Like, how are you happy cheating through life? That sounds like Gil, bro.
Starting point is 01:55:46 That sounds like something Gil would do. How are you happy? There's no way you happy winning like that. Moral of the story is do not play board games with Gil. Yeah, what about Domino's? You like Domino's? How does it make me happy? Knowing that we all know you cheating anyway,
Starting point is 01:56:00 you're not being low with it at a certain point. So it's like, that can't be fun. People are like, he cheated.'m shooting everything got the spades Partner spades dominoes you can't listen. This is up here. This is my me and my spade partner. We undefeated Here's why you know how you say, you know how you give clues like yo, I got a possible Mm-hmm when we say that we're telling them exactly how many spades we got right? So it sounds like that You know, there's 13 space. I'm like, you know, I got a possible six and then he have like shit I got a possible three. So between the two of us, we know we got nine spades
Starting point is 01:56:36 Then you hear some stupid shit like well Well, then we'll take like five books anyway, what the fuck you got a positive thing You got three so we just let me each other know how many spades we have. And then be like, I'll eat you. He'll be like, yo, I'll eat you. That means I don't have any more of that, so I'm cutting. Throw the lob, throw the lob. Yeah, so we talking like we talking basketball.
Starting point is 01:56:57 Throw the lob, throw the lob. I don't know how to play spades, so. It's icy around here. That means cold heart. It's icy around here. that means throw the hearts. No one's gonna teach me. Oh yeah, I'll cheat, yeah. So that's my little trigger.
Starting point is 01:57:11 We be like, yo, so for us to know how many spades we got, we be like, we go with we got a possible, since that's just normal talk. So basically don't play any- Don't play anything with, yo, got it. An actual shootout. So now people, if y'all playing space, throw that. I got a possible five. I got a possible six. Ooh, that means they ain't got no trouble.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Shit. Run a table on them. We can be partners, though. See, I'm good with the cheat. I'm cheating the whole time. Y'all, our producers would just like you to know that a great cheater
Starting point is 01:57:38 never reveals all of his grifts. So that means I got a lot of them. And the ones I told you, y'all be like, man, that's some good ass. That's some good ones right there. Man. I got a lot of them. And the ones I told you, y'all were like, damn, that's some good ass. That's some good ones right there. Man. You got better ones? Yeah. So a question
Starting point is 01:57:51 for Brandon and a question for you too, Gil. Just with Ronda announcing his retirement, what do you miss the most about being in the league? It can be on court, off court, but what do you miss the most about playing in the National Basketball Association? Traveling.
Starting point is 01:58:07 The travel? The travel. You miss that? It was fun? Yeah, the travel and then just the schedule. Like, waking up every day, going to the gym. Like, just the consistency of it. Like, the lifestyle. Hotels, like, everything.
Starting point is 01:58:21 Like, it's like a dream come true. Like, you know, so to play in the NBA is like just a whole nine, the whole process of it. Being around people with the same dream as you since you was little, right? Right? You know, like when you were a little kid and you're saying, you know, I want to be in the NBA, right? You're in a locker room with people who had the same dream
Starting point is 01:58:45 Right y'all are going through for the most part y'all going through the same problems, right? So, you know when you're talking about family when you really think about it That it that becomes your actual family because those are the only people that identify with you from top to bottom, right? If you're going through like highs, they are going, you got somebody who can identify with that, right? You know, you're going through lows,
Starting point is 01:59:15 there's somebody on the team that's going through the same problem. Divorces, kids, right, side chicks, right? Somebody blackmailing you, right? You're all going through the same You're going through the same problem. That's a very broad spectrum. That's what I'm saying Like but that's what I said if you one of those dudes that's going through all of it shit There's somebody on there alcoholic. There's a motherfucker on there with you. I said, right
Starting point is 01:59:36 So it's a lot of shit in that locker, right, you know, so because you got the same personalities and different people You're like these are the people you miss So when you get back to your regular world, there's no one that identifies with you. You're not, what you're going through in life, there's no friend that you're gonna have that understands you. So from your perspective, how comforting is it knowing that you could be going through
Starting point is 01:59:59 some absolutely wild shit, and there's somebody on the team who's like, oh, you think that's bad? Right, now you be sitting there like, damn's going on man goddamn dude just chick over here talking about she pregnant dog man man i don't know what to do you got three dudes like hey man i'm going through the same thing man ah shit man just got the same call last week. From who? I got the same one. You sit there. She's saying I'm the same thing.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Look at this. Now, we sit here trying to figure. Swear to God. No, not at my locker room. But I know some of those. Black male type of stuff that you're trying to get as many players as they possibly can. But we be sitting there doing the same thing, man. Parents, man, my mom over there
Starting point is 02:00:46 sitting there asking me for this check, man, they won't let go. Same thing. Wife cheating on you, same thing. Now you sitting there realizing that you're holding this stuff in, not realizing you got players. How long did it take
Starting point is 02:01:01 y'all both, Brandon, for yourself, how long did it take you to actually get comfortable in the NBA locker room? Obviously you had a different experience than a lot of hoopers going the overseas route, coming back to the league. But when did you feel at ease? Probably like my second year in the league. I felt like ease in the locker room. Because after the rookie, you're not on rookie duties or anything.
Starting point is 02:01:20 So now you're walking around like, yeah, I'm in here now. So it was after rookie year. Did you haze the incoming rookies or did you use your experience to build an up we were trying to and then they was trying to like cut the rookie hazing off like like all that like after my second year I don't know but we was I mean we didn't have players like that so it wasn't you know it was strict well you know we have no funny people like it didn't get crack until Steven Jackson got there All you need is one. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Once Stack Jack got there then I was like, all right like You know, I mean I had it
Starting point is 02:01:56 me Sean We had Andre Blach who he had JaVale McGee, we had Nick Young. See, I see. We had about seven. When we go into the club, it was seven. To the mall, whatever, we had the same personalities, same fun and yeah. How about the dub?
Starting point is 02:02:29 What? I just got comfortable when I got to LA. Really? To be honest. Really? Wow. And what made LA so comfortable for you? I just felt wanted there
Starting point is 02:02:45 which is something I hadn't felt from any team I'd been on before and not like in a like they didn't like me or fuck with me type of way just like they just knew I was like I wasn't going to be there very long and I felt that so the first time I felt like
Starting point is 02:03:02 wanted and like in a place long term has been in LA. So yeah, so I have like my best friendships and relationships with my teammates here. And then even in Chicago, my best friend Diamond plays, we played in Chicago together. So she, she was my person in Chicago. But even that locker room, like I just kind of was like, I was cut, brought back, cut, brought back. So I was never really, like... Hey, Lexi, welcome back. See you later. See you in a few weeks. When that happens, I mean... It's crazy. How much distrust do you lose that organization, and obviously, you have to come back, but do you even want to come back at that point after feeling like they
Starting point is 02:03:39 don't want you? Yeah, no. So, Chicago, when I got cut the first time, and the second time I got cut was because of like some salary cap stuff. But the first time I got cut, I was like, I'm not going to another team. I will go back to only Chicago because that's where I started. And I knew that they were a contender. But I mentally was very close to just be like, you know what, I'm just going to not play at all this summer. But after that season, you know, I got brought back, like I knew I wasn't going back to that team because I was like, nah, I'm good on that. Thanks for the championship though.
Starting point is 02:04:13 Take that, Ray. I'm not going back here. Give me that ball. Your first two years, you didn't like sit in the mall for no damn reason? Yeah. Yeah, the mall. I used to go out all the time. I used to always try to find something to do.
Starting point is 02:04:25 It's crazy because like what's funny is you have NBA players with millions of dollars in a regular mall. Mm-hmm. Right? And the funny part about it is think about the time we're at the mall. Yeah, like yeah, at 1. 1. Yeah, yeah yeah No one there we our idea of what we're gonna go to the mall and look for is not even realistic But we're we're going to the mall at one o'clock Yeah, knowing that every working girl
Starting point is 02:04:59 Is at work? Students are in class. So the only thing that's going to be at... For sure. No, like, I mean, working girls who got jobs, like real working girls. Okay, just one of you. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:05:11 They're at work, like the doctors or lawyers, anything that has anything sensible in life, they're there. The only girls that's going to be at the mall, strippers waking up.
Starting point is 02:05:21 Strippers? Right? Looking for an outfit for later on tonight. night right those type of girls back then would have been like the insta girls the black uh black men's magazine type girls at the mall shopping if we got to see them other than that we just in the mall just sitting there doing nothing yeah we ain't even shopping like that so you go to the mall with no shop with a black card ain't using it just just chilling i didn't go shopping until I started going to Detroit.
Starting point is 02:05:47 Because Milwaukee didn't have, we didn't have, we just had a regular mall. But when I got to Detroit, I was always in the mall. But think about it, most of us had a shoe deal, I can't go there and buy, yeah, slut out Foot Locker. So you sitting in Louis Vuitton the whole time, got every color sitting there like, y'all ain't got nothing new coming in I thought y'all see there's gonna be here like two o'clock It'll be here in 30 minutes. I ain't got nowhere to go
Starting point is 02:06:10 I was definitely a Macy's mind a bunch of points are made by the bunch of Like all just stacking up for the whole year. This is pretty buddy cuz we're just bored. We don't want to go home Also, you know, it was boring People don't really like a lot of free time. People think we have so much free time. It's scary because think about today's world. Media.
Starting point is 02:06:38 Everyone has a camera. We practice for the most part an hour, hour and a half a day if we do. So that means most NBA players is done working at 12.30.
Starting point is 02:06:53 12.30 every NBA player is out of the arena. The fact that you can't even get dirt on them lets you know how incognito, how lifestyle is. Because for the most part... We are not doing anything for most of the day. Playing video games, sitting at
Starting point is 02:07:12 home, doing nothing. But we go... So practice starts at 10. Like 10.30, right? 10 or whatever. So we usually get there with 8, 9, some of us. We're in there from 9 to 12. Like 8 to 12. By 1 o'clock, we're done. The we're in there from nine to 12. Nine to 12? Eight to 12. By one o'clock, we're done.
Starting point is 02:07:27 The whole day is done. Your day is over. The day is done. So we want to sit there and have fun, and the rest of the world is at work. At work, yeah. So we go home. Ain't nothing to do at home. Take a nap.
Starting point is 02:07:37 Unless you got some homies, but you know you're tired of them. So it gets to a point where you... Go get a job. You've been doing it the whole a job Would you stop going home Just because you don't want to deal with the homies Yes I'm going straight to the mall Going shopping
Starting point is 02:07:51 That's what I said When NBA players Pick up bad habits It's not when they're playing It's when they're done playing When they're trying to fill up That 8 to 12.30 Time in the morning up that 8 to 12.30 time in the morning
Starting point is 02:08:06 and that 5 to 9. So when you wake up and you're supposed to have a game or something and you don't have nothing to do, that becomes the problem. I mean, that shows how disciplined athletes really are. For that level, yeah. So much free time. I mean, you do rarely see athletes in like a world of Well, I'm gonna talk about basketball players, but I get in trouble like dozens are getting in trouble like real like real
Starting point is 02:08:34 Stupid trouble like it doesn't happen like some discipline I think about you you the most money you're talking about like think about what Tatum and Brown and all these guys And you have the most money to do whatever you want, and you can't even find these dudes. You have no idea where they are. If you took away their Instagram, you wouldn't even know nothing about them. And y'all got cameras where you see them and you can record them, and you still don't see the dudes. And when you do see them when they're doing some just regular Acting regular being regular being polite not getting not starting nothing. So even if you could record them
Starting point is 02:09:13 Now you're just being a weirdo Yeah, you'd be like, you know If you really want to see a athlete go to like Dave and Buster's like that's one Oh God Oh God one one o'clock one o'clock in the afternoon Go to the bowling alley go Go to the bowling alley. Go to Dave and Buster's. And I guarantee you see your favorite player there. And y'all be like, why the fuck are you here? Because you're supposed to be at work.
Starting point is 02:09:33 Like, when I went to the movie dinners, I went to the movie dinners at 1. Middle of the day. Yep. 11 o'clock, 1, because no one's here. I got the movie dinner by myself. I do everything in the middle of the day. Yeah, middle of the day, because no one's there. But that's why I like the timing of this show, though.
Starting point is 02:09:47 Like, this show reminds me of getting up every morning. Why you think that? But why you think I... Like, you know, like, I get up... Every time I'm on, I'm getting up at, like, 8.30. Getting up. You're getting up, processing, get ready to go to practice. Leave here, eat lunch, go to sleep.
Starting point is 02:10:00 So I don't got to change... I don't have to change nothing about my basketball life because it's all... Well, I feel like I need to be the Stan Van Gundy of this operation. I'm going to start laying into it. Oh, shit. Get y'all guided where to go. So, Gil, earlier in the show that you said you could beat Rondo and connect for us,
Starting point is 02:10:15 so we got a present for you. That was fast. And that's how it looked right there. Right there. Are you about to win? Arms and everything. And he about to win, too. And he about to win.
Starting point is 02:10:27 But it ain't going to look like that because I would have already had him like... You don't know. Huh? You don't know how that board came about. Who? I would have had him win. No, what I'm saying is how I win, I have you stuck two spots. So all I'm sitting there trying to create two avenues.
Starting point is 02:10:51 Like two avenues of winning. So basically, you have to block one, I win one. So I'm always bop, bop. You're always going to have two ways to win. Two ways to win. So that's how my strategy is. I would like to watch you play tic-tac-toe. You can't cheat that. Do you know what else has two ways to win? I can't. You can't cheat tic-tac-toe You can't cheat that do you know what else has two ways? I can't
Starting point is 02:11:09 Yes, you know what else has two ways to win underdog fantasy You can do best ball use promo code Gil They will match your first deposit up to $100 now Let's move on to our last segment of the day mostly fans So yes our couch can get to the mall or the bowling alley or the movie theater, wherever they want to go, and not have to see regular civilians with day jobs. I went to the mall yesterday after this, and there was a lot of people there. Yeah, 2 o'clock.
Starting point is 02:11:38 It's spring break. Are you crazy? You don't go to the mall right now. Yeah, it's spring break right now. Crazy? Come on, you got to go. If you want to go to the grocery store, you go to the mall right now. Yeah, spring break right now. Crazy. Come on, you got to go. Like, if you want to go to the grocery store, you go to the... I'm at the grocery store at 7 a.m.
Starting point is 02:11:50 Ain't nobody in there. They still putting shit together. I help. Hey, where the fruit at? Hold on. Let me go to the back. Here we go. You get the good fruit.
Starting point is 02:11:57 He said, I help. 7 a.m. Like, trust me. If you want to see famous people, 7 a.m. Because no one's there at 7 a.m. like trust me if you want to see if you want to see famous people 7 a.m. Because they know one's there at 7 a.m We're at the crib that was my you know, I know that because back when I was in elementary school That was the best time to steal He's a cheater and a thief
Starting point is 02:12:16 No, no 7 a.m. Because you know, they the workers are still putting stuff together so you can go in there steal some candy Seller to school So you can go in there steal some candy sell it a school Shen allegedly we do not get no future thieves out there now you got to give game there by for my future thieves out there Seven eight do not condone or support an AMS, you know security and security in Here's the cashiers ain't really there. They got one lane open. Yeah me they I mean? They lack a stab, it's usually the older generation. Yeah, the older generation. Is that- Allegedly. Same thing if you want to be like a street dealer, right?
Starting point is 02:12:54 Think about it. The older generation, right, they want to be home with their family during the day, so you want to do all your driving and due diligence around 4 a.m. to 7 a.m. Those guys are older. They don't really want to work. They ain't really no activities that late. You 9 p.m. to 2 a.m. type of dealers, y'all got the most aggressive cops on the street. They got that job for that thing. They want to beat heads in at that time.
Starting point is 02:13:24 Those sound like great hours to read a Bible. I'm just trying to let you know, man. Understand behavior. See who wants a job. Hey, listen. Them sensible homes, people who want to be home with their family,
Starting point is 02:13:41 they want to work the great yard shift at five to seven so they can be at home, pick their kids up. I study all dumb. I study dumb stuff. I'm sorry. Now let's move on to... You like to learn.
Starting point is 02:13:52 Yeah, I learn. Of course. Now let's move on to Mostly Fans, presented by Underdog Fantasy. I'm a student of random stuff. Our first question comes from Underdog user NFLouisvilleOG. If healthy, can women put up numbers like Wilt since records always say since Wilt?
Starting point is 02:14:10 No. Like Wilt? I mean... What about off the court? No, he's French. He's French. Okay, he's not. Yeah, then...
Starting point is 02:14:18 Off the court, can he get... No. Like scoring? Like, I don't know. Scoring is just... Yeah, what's up there? Scoring is... like scoring scoring is just scoring is you have guys that's like they're athletic and tall
Starting point is 02:14:30 exactly like him back then there was nobody we always talk about Will's 100 point record being one of the most unbreakable records in sports could Wimby potentially be the guy if he gets teammates to give him the ball if it's one of those things where they're literally saying alright we're about to play The win be potentially be the guy. If he gets teammates to give him the ball. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:47 If it's one of those things where they're literally saying, all right, we're about to play the, like, an undersized team, and it's, like, the last two games of the season, and say, listen, for the scoring title or something, like they did David Robinson, we're just going to give you the ball every single time for you to score it. Yes. Absolutely. He can actually do it. Yeah. With ease, too. Like, Jamal Crawford's 50. Just throw the ball every single time for you to score. Yes, he can he can actually do it
Starting point is 02:15:05 Yeah, we're nice to like Jamal Crawford 50 This season All the most yeah, yeah, throw the ball up another team don't give a fuck either like I'll you know, yeah So next question from underdog user Nova Mandrake So the G League named a female coach of the year. When will the NBA hire its first female coach? We've got to give a shout out to Lindsay Harding, named G League coach of the year in her inaugural season with the Stockton Kings.
Starting point is 02:15:34 She became the first black woman head coach in the G League, led the Kings to the league's best record this season, 24 wins, 10 losses. Oh, wow. So when will we see our first female head coach in Adam Silver's National Basketball Association? Never. Never.
Starting point is 02:15:48 I don't know. Yeah. Too many egos. Never. You act like you ain't seen Eddie. Quality movie. Never, ever, ever, ever,
Starting point is 02:15:56 ever, ever, ever, ever. Thank you, guys. Not because of a lack of qualifications. Stacey Patton. Not because of a lack of qualifications. And that's unfortunate, but that's just what it is. So, I the lack of qualifications.
Starting point is 02:16:06 And that's unfortunate, but that's just what it is. So, I mean, come on. I feel like... No, we're not. I mean, not because she's not going to be qualified. That's not going to be the issue. The issue is that you're dealing with a whole bunch of dudes that's... That don't even respect the men that coaches. It's ego-driven.
Starting point is 02:16:23 And when it comes to just temperament itself, that's the problem. With players, the gender doesn't matter when they're mad. When they're not getting their way. I mean, just think about some of the players, how they talk to coach when the coach is putting them on the bench and not putting them in. What do you think they're going to say to you about a woman? You don't need that in the air, players coming back from the bench or saying shit from the bench.
Starting point is 02:16:50 Yeah. What's crazy is Eddie came out in 96. Eddie's a good movie. I would love to see him, but I just... I don't know. I mean, what she did in the G League is amazing, though. Motherfuckers got fire for 30 and 13. They're not respecting a coach at 30 and 13 record.
Starting point is 02:17:10 What you... Yeah. I'm over to the W when you ready, girl. Yeah, just go on to the W, you know what I mean? Like Becky did. Learn these things with the players in practice and stuff where it's mild mannered. Really don't get aggressive like that in practice. And then use all that knowledge, go on into the W, improve that game.
Starting point is 02:17:33 Last question is from underdog user Nemlack. Other than Shaq, who was the most dominant player you faced? And Lexi, since you did not face Shaq, who was the most dominant player that you faced? We will start with you first. Who was the most dominant player that you faced? Most dominant? Are we comparing this dominance to
Starting point is 02:17:55 Shaq? No, just in general for yourself. Who's the most unstoppable force? I don't know. Come back. I don't really have an answer for that. Asia? No. I wouldn't say unstoppable, but yeah, I think she's the best player in the W right now. Stewie? Stewie's up there. I mean, I think JJ also. John Cole Jones is up there.
Starting point is 02:18:21 Honestly, maybe Elena Deledon. Mm-hmm. Honestly, maybe Elena Deledon. Just from a position standpoint, she's too tough for guards to guard her, but she's too quick for bigs to really guard her. So I would put Edie D up there. Edie D means something a little different in California for everybody who's between jobs right now. Elena Deladon you know hit the Vietnamese line that's my suggestion to you got it learn the button pattern hit the Vietnamese line if you want to actually speak to a representative get your bread but uh you know
Starting point is 02:18:54 other than Shaq who was the most dominant player you faced other than Shaq most dominant... Probably Kobe. Probably Kobe or LeBron. I mean, we're talking about the fucking 23-year-old LeBron. You're looking at it, you think he's fast today, but you think we had to face when he was running through that lane, running through that lane just with that speed and that body size. He was hurting people when he was coming full speed. So, you know, him, um, Cole, like, like with Colby, it was just, no matter what you did, he just had something for every defense. And he was so relentless that it just didn't
Starting point is 02:19:59 even matter. Right. So those were the, and for me, it's fortunate that I got to play against all of them. When people talking about an era, like I know for some people like the 80s, 90s, that transition was a great era. And I'm like, well, I got to play older Jordan, but shit, he was still nice. nice right to get to see that that that player in the league and Allen Iverson the cold or LeBron right got to see the Tim Duncan the best power forward of all time and if you want to say the second best power forward, Karl Malone, I was in that. I was with that. And I got to see that too. So, I mean, you're talking about like, there was some great, that 2000 became, like, I don't know if it's going to go down as the greatest era, but when you're talking about when it comes to positions, top fives in their positions, you know, the 2000, that 2000 era is going to have a lot of top five in their position. The only thing they're going to be missing is the center.
Starting point is 02:21:17 The center position won't be gobbled up. It ought to be taken from the 90s. So, Brandon, who was the most dominant player that you faced? Probably LeBron James in Miami. That year, when he went over there. Just unstoppable. And I think
Starting point is 02:21:36 that's when he went back to back, right? It was just unreal. And then I had to go D. Rose MVP year. That was crazy. That was insane. I've never seen a point guard come back that second that third year and do that You know who's unstoppable but his numbers his numbers were okay They were decent. They wasn't like over the top but like Defensively, you're like, what do we do with him dirt like dirt like if dirt was selfish it was no one really
Starting point is 02:22:10 remember he's like how the game is being played today that was him then in the dinosaur era so if he really wanted to just sit everybody out there and hit threes his post up his fate like he just wasn't... He always had... Which was great. He wasn't... He didn't have a team like Luca. He always had other dogs on the team.
Starting point is 02:22:36 He had Steve Nash. He had Finley. Antoine Jameson went over there. Antoine Walker. He had a group of guys that took a lot of his scoring power away from him. You know,
Starting point is 02:22:49 but when it came to like mismatches, he was a mismatch. Always appreciate these conversations. I caught Brandon Roy. I didn't have to guard him, but he was,
Starting point is 02:23:01 he was young, nice. He was nice. I caught him my rookie year. I think if Am to guard him, but he was young, nice. He was nice. I called him my rookie year. I think if Amari in his early age would have learned how to, like, if he had a post-up move and really understood, like, posting up and being dominant by yourself, he would have been a whole different issue because he was an issue with Steve Nash,
Starting point is 02:23:29 and then once he lost Steve Nash, he had to learn how to be independent. But if he would have learned it early, it would have been a, it was, oof. Always appreciate the insight, perspective, here on the couch. Thanks, we appreciate you this week. I think this is your last episode of the week. We're gonna miss you.
Starting point is 02:23:49 This is the last episode of the week. What are you talking about? We got one more tomorrow. Yeah, today is Wednesday. It's gonna be Wednesday, sir. We gotta go to the mall after the show with no shopping agenda. Just walk around in circles. Man, Kmart, man. On vacation, man. Enjoying. Just enjoying vacation, man.
Starting point is 02:24:06 That's crazy, dog. Gotta get him back on the couch. He's back tomorrow. Oh, he's going back tomorrow? Kmart, right? We got the schedule. Yeah, me and Kmart tomorrow. We'll be back on tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:24:15 You just come downstairs. You don't know what's going on. You don't know. Monday through 3, 1130. Who here? What are we doing? Clock in, clock out. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:24:23 I don't mean I don't come in the basement. I don't come down here. God, it's down here. No AC. I got shit upstairs. We appreciate all y'all for tapping in with us for yet another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo-hoo! We will see y'all tomorrow. Thank you. Outro Music

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