Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Recaps A WILD Weekend In Sports

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

Gil's Arena Recaps A WILD Weekend In The NBA as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew discuss everything that went on in the association and more as they dive into the NFL Playoffs, Chicago Bulls fa...ns BOOING Jerry Krause, Dwyane Wade's Statue for the Miami Heat and the prediction that the Boston Celtics will face off with the Los Angeles Clippers in the NBA Finals. They also discuss Damian Lillard finding his playoff form, Mike Brown's rant on the referees, and Draymond Green's anticipated return. Please throw us a like and subscribe if you enjoyed the show! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:05:48 Can Brandon Hit 20 Shots? 0:11:42 Taylor Swift Swag Surfing 0:16:15 Ride That D?!?! 0:22:40 Tyreek Hill's Ashy Lips 0:23:26 Jerry Jones & Cowboys Loss 0:24:43 Who Finishes With More Wins - Lions or Pistons? 0:29:56 Dwyane Wade's Statue 0:35:11 Who Should Have Statues? 0:41:02 Should Warriors Give KD A Statue? 0:46:07 Bulls Fans Boo Jerry Krause 0:49:13 Gil Relives His 50 Point Game on MLK Day 1:02:33 Gil's Arena Makes Their NBA Finals Predicitions 1:05:22 Can Celtics Have The Best Home Record in NBA History? 1:08:42 The West Still Runs Through Denver 1:09:07 Addressing Jokic Taking Melo's Number 1:11:59 Damian Lillard Found His Playoff Form 1:22:49 Should Lakers Fans Be Happy With LeBron/AD Era? 1:30:28 How Open Is The Clippers Window? 1:32:14 The Funniest Players In The NBA 1:35:33 Mike Brown's Referee Rant 1:40:49 Embiid Cooks The Rockets on MLK Day 1:46:17 Draymond Green RETURNS 1:51:54 Gil's Arena Shootout Promo 1:55:02 What's Your Dream?? 2:03:05 Mostly Fans 2:07:34 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:03 Agency, bro. Change, yeah. Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy World. Woo! Some are feeling good, others not as much. Tough playoff weekend. We got a big week, though. We got a big week, though. We got a big week this week. How you feeling, Kenny? You all right?
Starting point is 00:01:53 Oh, man. It's cold out here. They say cap was... Yeah, cap was... I mean, until you said Kenya, I thought it was McCants. Is that bad, man? Sorry, son, bitches. We're going to talk a little bit about it in a little bit.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Hang in there, man. It's always next year. Always next year. It's always next year. It's been always next year since 95, so nah, we can't kid you. Always next year. It's the cycle of being a Cowboys fan, though. Get your hopes up.
Starting point is 00:02:28 We can't do that no more, man. You got old white man crying distraught, but yeah, we're going to hit it a little bit. This is Gills Arena presenting my underdog fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. We got Brandon Jennings rocking some new Gills Arena merchandise.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Look at us! I put one there for. Yes, sir. I put one there for Kenyon, too. I know, but I cheer you up a little bit. Cheer you up. I got some more coming. Hostile territory. We should be selling this, though.
Starting point is 00:02:56 We're going to get it available to the fans soon? Yes, Saturday. Okay. Saturday at the event. Okay. All right. We're going to talk about that in a little bit, too. It's going to come to the event. That's the only way you can get it.
Starting point is 00:03:03 For sure. Come to the event. We'll talk about that in a second. We got. They'll come to the event. Yeah, that's the only way you can get it. For sure. Come to the event. We'll talk about that in a second. We got... What's up? Kenya Martin, our resident, former Dallas Cowboys fan. You still riding? What have you done?
Starting point is 00:03:12 You tapped out? You jumping off that ship? Yeah, yeah. No life jacket. Just out. Listen, he been there since 95. No, I've been there before that. Okay, so he...
Starting point is 00:03:22 Still. No, no, no, no, no. It just hurt right now, then. No, no, no, no. This is... No, they were playing... Still, no, no, no, no. It just hurt right now, didn't it? No, no, no, this is... No, it's the same shit, though. It's the same story. Same story, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Like, that was the easiest matchup that we could've got. At home. That was the easiest matchup at home that we could've got. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. Happy MLK Day to all who celebrate And to those who don't celebrate MLK Day you ain't shit just want you to do all right wait the Arizona have Forever y'all mother went to school state we all didn't celebrate money. Can you I was it? Yeah
Starting point is 00:04:07 Yes, just Monday Knowledge you need like yeah all the black athletes are coming in there, huh? Hmm they had to be in order to get the Super Bowl to change Everybody okay. Okay. We good. Y'all got it. Y'all got it. So much power to the NFL guy, though. Oh, wow. We got NBA games going on right now, but what would you rather be doing, watching the NBA or watching Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy? I think you know the answer.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Do not even think about it. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Bulls' ring of honor ceremony turned ugly, but were fans wrong for booing MJ's former GM? Look at the height disparity. ESPN Analytics is predicting a Celtics-Clippers NBA final this year, but is that facts or cap? And it was Dame time in Milwaukee,
Starting point is 00:04:57 but have the Bucs finally found their rhythm? And Mike Brown out here pulling up receipts, going hard. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Download the app, use promo code GILL. They will match your first deposit up to $100. You heard that right. Download the Underdog Fantasy app, use promo code GILL, and get that $100 deposit match.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And as always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of every show. If you drop a good question in the chat with your Underdog Fantasy username, we use that question on the show. We will give you a $50 bonus to your underdog fantasy account. If you send us a video at mostlyfansguild at gmail.com in the 30 to 40 second range, and we use that video on the show, we will give you a $100 bonus, free money to your underdog fantasy account. All you got to do is support the show. Ask good questions. They got to be good is the key imperative word. A lot of y'all asking white questions. Well, it might be good questions to them.
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Starting point is 00:05:52 your podcasts from. So this weekend, the moment you've all been waiting for, the first annual Gills Arena shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy.
Starting point is 00:06:00 This Saturday, January 20th, at the District in Chatsworth, our qualifiers competing against our celebrity influencers and the Gills Arena crew in a winner-take-all battle for $100,000.
Starting point is 00:06:14 So here's a quick hype video for the shootout that Brandon posted on IG. To all the competitors coming January 20th, I'm not a security. Nor do I care. I'm going to keep it hostile. I'm going to talk shit. Any players that I saw that I was impressed with, I'm not scared of you. Nor do I care. I'm gonna keep it hostile. I'm gonna talk shit. Any player that I saw that I was impressed with, I'm the best shooter.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I will be the best shooter in January of 20th. So, I wasn't impressed at all. Why not go home with a hundred racks? And, uh, good luck. Hey, I be getting off at the parade. Hey, boy. So, Underdog will also be doing special pickkems during the shootout that you can access on the underdog fantasy app Go higher lower on all the contestants including our gills arena crew. So let's start with Brandon since he's here today
Starting point is 00:06:56 Underdog listed your first round higher lower as 19.5. That is 25 mid-range shots five different spots You got to do it in a zigzag motion, because we want to be different. You know what? You don't just get to go spot to spot. You gotta zigzag around the court. Underdog fantasy, innovation. Oh, you gotta... Man, moving. So you can't get comfortable.
Starting point is 00:07:14 You gotta be on the move. I'm going lower. Are you not hitting 19.5? You ain't gonna make 20? And we gotta zigzag? Pfft! I'm going lower on me. You going lower? Bray, you can't do that, all right? You about to be a suspect.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Come on, you know I'm going higher. All right. I'm 22. I'm going 22, man. Gil, are you rolling with Brandon going over 19.5, 25 mid-range shots? No. First of all, I'll be there early, so. No, he's not. Yes, I am. He's never shot off racks, ever. You never shot off racks? No, so he don't even know which side to put the racks on. I do. Which side? Right here, this way. This side, right here. No, man. Boom, right here. Boom. Not this way So he gonna grab across his body see here he'll know what he doing y'all right here
Starting point is 00:08:14 And can you we know your previous dance you were going lower anybody is that's whole no Even go fuck you You ain't get out the first night either right? It ain't stationary What about Lexi though? It ain't stationary. Okay, I I mean, okay, you gotta move like you said, thank you. Thank you So you got thank you How many minutes right here? They give us they gave them three minutes last time getting to we get yeah We get less than that. Yeah, you get 45 seconds. I can walk now a minute every spot No, I think I'm a minute 30 walk to every spot a minute 30 a minute 30 They should just get a minute. They got three minutes last. Do you know how long a minute 30. I can walk to every spot a minute 30? No. A minute 30? They should just get a minute 30.
Starting point is 00:08:46 They got three minutes last. Do you know how long a minute 30 is? You can literally shoot, walk. They give you a minute in the NBA. Huh? In the NBA, three points. Okay, well, then let's go a minute. You get a minute, you get 30 more seconds.
Starting point is 00:08:59 All right, let's go a minute then. Don't mean you're going to make them. Yeah, now it changes. Just because you can walk and shoot don't mean you're going to make them. Yeah, now it changes. Just because you shoot them up, just because you can walk and shoot them don't mean you're going to make them. Thank you. Lower, like I said, everybody. His problem is he jumps.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Everybody. He's a jump shooter. He shoots mid-range shooting jumpers. That's going to be hard for him. I'm not going to leave the ground at all. All wrist work. Mm-hmm. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:09:24 22. Okay. Well, we will find out Saturday. Would you make it to a two-hour 25? Huh? You make it to a two-hour 25? Fuck no. Fuck no. I have my paper up there. Lower.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Can you give me my... No, no. No, fuck. I don't give a shit. Go upstairs. Lower. Yeah, put your money... Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Lower. Go and do a lower. He ain't make it on 22 out of no 25 the first time. No, you're not like that. Man. Put your money. Thank you. Lower. Lower. Go and do it lower. He ain't making no 22 out of no 25 the first time. Lower. No, you're not like that. You ain't like that. You ain't hibachi no more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:52 You do know that there's a great possibility like you. Hibachi no more. You can make like just 21, right? And I'll be correct, right? 22 out of 25. You make 20. Man. 19.5.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I mean. 20. You know, I've done testing myself But you said 22 for you good. We heard rumors to that. I'm gonna say you want power power You've been going to the district off hours not telling nobody. Thank you get familiarizing yourself with the court Getting a competitive advantage Wait, what you've been going to invent? No, it's open gym. Okay. Well, it's open gym. I can't help it If you don't help it if... I can't help it if motherfuckers live all the way in Marina Del Rey.
Starting point is 00:10:28 You got to go to the beach. That ain't my problem. I'm not shooting in the water. That ain't my problem. He want to go outside. He want to be muscle-bound at the beach. That ain't my problem, y'all. Hey, I found out where we shooting at. That's where I've been working out at.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Okay, that's fair. Hey, yo, is he going to make it out the first room McKinsey? He should I mean he should there's ten month we can just ten of us that can make it Jesus Christ Well, we will find I mean, I mean last place is 15. How much more bet? But I bet how much you want to bet you'll be out before my kids. That's that That's that which I'll bet What do you want that whoever bet whoever finishes the highest before my kids whoever finishes the highest it gets to be their arena for the next episode how
Starting point is 00:11:13 about that we already you already have for the week for the week make them graphic yeah get the tough crowd dog going. Dark talent here. Go play some Playboy Cardi. That slow mechanical-ass shot he got. I'm just asking. All right, well, let's... Time to get your ass off the court. Get your ass off the court. He going to cramp up anyway.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Let's keep this thing moving. He going to cramp. Motherfucking muscle going to cramp up on him. We're a basketball show, but the NFL playoffs kicked off this weekend. Some things we need to discuss. Let's start with the Dolphins-Chiefs game. Taylor Swift braved sub-zero weather to pull up to the Chiefs wild card game to support her boo, Travis Kelsey. While the Chiefs were doing their thing on the field, Swift was turning up in her suite,
Starting point is 00:12:01 leading a gentrified swag surf with Kelsey's mom and Mahomes' wife. I don't know if y'all have seen the video. It was rocking. Hey, that's not going to be when I'm shooting. Hey! I can see Gil having that. Hey, everybody, yeah! I can see Gil having that. They were whitewater rafting.
Starting point is 00:12:23 It's been one of the biggest stories in sports this season. The Chiefs win ensures that neither gets any criticism for at least another week. Obviously, there's a lot of pressure on both of them to get that dub or they would have both got packed up. But Gil, how much pressure was on Kelsey to play good to avoid backlash from the media and haters? I don't even know if anybody ever pays attention to him. Out of your damn mind, boy?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Nobody's paying attention to him, man. It's all about her right now. That man, two-time NFL Super Bowl champion. Yeah. Listen, bro. He was there before he met her. No, I know. She just enhanced it.
Starting point is 00:12:54 That's all. By a thousand. Shit, okay. He was already that. Yeah, but not like that. Don't do that. Best tight end in the NFL, hands down. No, no, no, that's facts. So don't act like he was the
Starting point is 00:13:06 bum and then she elevated him and now everybody paying him some fucking attention. No, no, no, no. I said no one's paying him attention. I'm going to stick up for my Cincinnati Bearcat brother. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Absolutely. Change his position. He was a quarterback first, then he had to play tight end. So he was the best tight end in football before he met her. Before he met her. to play tight end So he was the best tight end in football before he met before he met her before he met her He was the best tight end in football. Absolutely soon Soon as he met her Was the number one stuff? Okay, that's fine. That's about a thousand. That's fine
Starting point is 00:13:37 That's right there cool what I'm saying when she comes together, but he was still the best motherfucking tight end No, no, but we're gonna foremost. No, that's fine. What's the full comes to the game? Well, that's the TV that's the camera no, I'm just saying she bigger than my home whenever when she could do this thing Tell my home to get the crop to it. Yeah She made any didn't play well listen his brother got a heart. He dropped me a like three drops, but it's freezing Oh, nobody's up to a high standard. He's a bear catcher. You don't watch football He dropped, he had like three drops. But it's freezing cold. But nobody pays attention. He holds himself to a high standard though. He's a Bearcat.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Because you don't watch football. Nobody pays attention to football. You don't pay attention to football, Gary. Facts, facts. Don't make... What happened to his brother? His brother don't... Yeah, his brother plays for the Philadelphia Eagles.
Starting point is 00:14:16 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Mahomes' brother. He got off. Oh. He got off. He got off. Ooh. They let him...
Starting point is 00:14:24 Ayo. He can't play... He can't do what he used to do? With the dancers and shit? Yeah. I mean, you know, I think... You got Kelsey... Oh, no! That's a matter of who's who.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Taylor came in, pushed them all out the paint, hit the swag surf. Oh, man. Listen, man, I'm just letting you... I'm just saying, man, be careful. Made Mahomes wipe out... Be careful who you date in the industry. Because if they break up, all right, well... It's still going to be him.
Starting point is 00:14:45 How devastating would it have been if the Chiefs lost? They wasn't going to lose at home. I'm just saying if they— That shit wasn't going to happen. Man, them boys in Miami ain't nothing. Listen, dude, it's 80 degrees every day where they are. Every day other than when they go on the road, it's 80 degrees. They leave on the third and play on the Sunday.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Man, them boys wasn't used to that. They got off that goddamn bus in goddamn Kansas City. That's like you open the door and your dog ain't used to that shit. Nigga, they ain't going outside. They going out. Oh, shit, I'm not going out to the P. Come on, man. Y'all saw just seen the video. They had to put the
Starting point is 00:15:20 water in the freezer. Yeah, when they took it out, yeah, it's freezing. It started freezing. But we got a comment from Keyshawn B. He said, could you imagine if Taylor Swift pulled up and won the shootout?
Starting point is 00:15:30 Shit, that would be great for us. Swift Serena. I'm not letting no girl win. Listen, get out of here. Nothing about a girl winning anything. I'm not letting no girl win. Come on, dog.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Come on, dog. I don't know if y'all know how competitive I am. I lost 17 pounds. For this pounds to compete in a shootout. I mean, I ain't trying to lose to these motherfuckers, man. What are you talking about? No, I'm not playing that shit. This is my spirit right here.
Starting point is 00:16:00 I feel alive right now, Ken. I feel alive right now. That's fine? I try to explain that to people. They don't understand it. I feel alive. What? So, question for the couch.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Brandon, you kind of alluded to this a second ago, but how hard is it dating and maintaining relationships during the season as a pro athlete? Depends on who you're dating. Depends on who you're dating. Taylor Swift, I mean, that's different. Those texts, did he respond to two problems? Sierra. Prom text response? Huh? And when you dating that Taylor Swift, I mean that's different those texts or did he responded to Sierra?
Starting point is 00:16:25 Bob text response, huh? If it's Sierra she's getting her text responded to probably if that's your girl That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck you talking about during the season and if y'all in relationship Like the fuck you talking? No, I'm just not going on so because I'm busy. I got a game. I mean, it's like a Taylor Swift, a Kardashian. A timeout, I got to hit her back. Like a Taylor Swift, a Kardashian. Like, those are... Those would seem easier. Yeah, it's easier, but you're always in the limelight with that.
Starting point is 00:16:56 That would seem easier because they're busy. So that's better for you. Yeah, that motherfucker that sit home all day and got shit to do. The fans is is you know Cheering your name. You got the little things over there talking waving and shit Yeah, those are headaches when you get to the crib idle time Idle Idle mind boy little time and I don't mind Come on. You looking at when you said the free throw line
Starting point is 00:17:20 the fucking free throw line What you talking about? Yeah, there was a girl behind that. Ah, man, them the worst ones, man. I don't know. I think the bigger your partner is, who she is, I think the easier it is to get in trouble. Get in trouble? No, no, no. I mean, get in trouble. They throwing it at you. You know what I'm saying? If you walking in with a Taylor Swift or a Rihanna or Kardashianihanna, like, or Kardashian...
Starting point is 00:17:45 Oh, yeah, they gonna throw it. They throwing it. They gonna throw it. Yeah, they throwing it. That's why Tristan get in trouble. But they throwing it. But how many Grammys you got? How many Tories you selling out
Starting point is 00:17:54 to all the other ones that's pulling up? Nah, but that's the thing. Like, if she dates him, he must... Yeah. I wanna see if he cheat on her. Yeah, that's... You got that. Because women...
Starting point is 00:18:03 It's hard out here for us. Yeah. Because women love what other women have. For sure. All right, let's keep this thing moving. So now, Kenya, I know you don't play these games, but we have to acknowledge a moment that went down during the NFL Network's post-game show after the Dolphins' chief game
Starting point is 00:18:15 between host Chris Rose and Marissa O'Neal. It's far and away the best defense that Patrick Mahomes has had, right? I mean, is it possible that they can ride the D? All right. The defense. He couldn't even hold it back. No, he was like, yo, you know what? All right.
Starting point is 00:18:38 His face said Paul. Like, man, come on. All of them. All of them. He ain't got a cell phone. Oh, shit. Shout out to UCLA legend, Maurice Jones Drew. That was the face of just Paul.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah. Hey, yo. I don't know if they can or if they can't. That's what his look like, but I'm not going to answer that. Say defense, man. So keep it moving. Dolphins pro bowler Tyreek Hill took an L before the game even started, getting caught looking like Tyrone Bingham.
Starting point is 00:19:06 So he posted this tweet. He said, I know we lost, but ain't no way a motherfucker let me walk outside with my lips this ashy. Ooh, I thought that was Dwight. It is. Dwight who? Dwight around his mouth. Dwight around his mouth. Say I'm 50.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Say I'm 50. So question for the couch. Have your lips ever been this ashy? Hell yeah. Hell no. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. When I was in Russia.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Oh, you was in... Hell yeah. Like that? Yeah. In Russia, yeah. No, I keep shit. Yeah. Hygiene.
Starting point is 00:19:44 What's the wildest time somebody acknowledged you being ashy in public? Was there a time during the game you had ashy elbows or knuckles and somebody had to point it out to you? In the game? Nah, I'm always lotioned up in the game. Helps me sweat. Being ashy, nah. I keep cocoa butter. Cocoa butter's the best lotion ever. You played in cocoa butter?
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah, hell yeah. It didn't make the ball slippery? Are you drying the hands off before? I'm always wondering. I was doing the chalk before the game. A little chalk, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But cocoa butter, for sure. Should last longer.
Starting point is 00:20:16 For sure. Well, Kanye, let's move on. We got to talk about your Cowboys. Let their fans down once again. Giving up the most points in their postseason history and helping the Packers become the first seventh seed to ever win a playoff game. Damn. So, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Sebastian Avedo on Twitter said, Jerry Jones losing on MLK weekend. It was silver lining. The memes were flowing, as you may remember. Jerry was curious when his school was getting integrated. Maybe a little too curious. But he was also crying after the game. I think we were trying to pull the video. We may not have it but You saw you saw Jerry Jones In tears so Kenyon you're a Cowboys fan or are you yeah?
Starting point is 00:20:58 Listen man Yeah, you expect like that was it like I was him for that's the easiest game that they possibly could have had to play at home. Got a seventh seed. So they had two seed. Two seed. Home game. Ain't lost at home all season. Ain't lost at home since the week one last year.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Yeah. Averaging 35 at home, points at home. But, yeah. What did he need? New coach. Oh, Bill Belichick. No, he ain't the answer. He not? No, the quarterback ain't the problem. He played like shit. The defense played worse.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Yeah. I'm saying Dak threw a pick six. He played, he scored no points. Dak couldn't ride the D. I'm saying we scored enough points, scored 32 points. Score 32, I'm saying, like that shit just, phew. So you watch the game, right? So as soon as the sit start, motherfucker went right down the field and scored. And then once we have a bad penalty to like to extend the drive. I can pretty much know how the game finna go
Starting point is 00:22:06 Okay, it's just who they are. They get flustered easy easy and next thing you know the motherfuckers fall apart So what that shit see it? Sorry Trash is try it was a Bunch of cash trash. What's in there bunch of cowboy hat at least give it a charity Beyond stuff in our port. I thought some Deion Sanders. I got some motion in the car Do you need this is over years man? This is I got shit. Trust me. It's Jersey Yeah, this is my bring it to you y'all don't have you don't have a good luck hat
Starting point is 00:23:02 Motherfucker ain't none of this shit. Good luck. So you're 21 blue Dion bag them motherfuckers up You're like they did a season over how you did you put that shit in them? Oh each one of you mother got one Y'all even get the heavy duty. Not at all. Hey, y'all why do we get the heavy? No, I ain't get no heavy. There ain't nothing heavy duty about this shit, man Man listen dog Yeah, that shit embarrassing and year after year. I was in high school work Last time we went to the NFC Championship game or Super Bowl. I was in high school. I'm in high school High school for a long fucking time
Starting point is 00:23:38 Though Now I'm gonna go Ravens I like the Ravens I've always liked the organization Because Ray Lewis is my favorite football player of all time. Okay, but he not playing no more. No, but so I'm gonna go Lamar Jackson, then where's Steve Smith. Nah, I'm sorry. I'm gonna go Ravens. I can't let, we can't let you do that. You just can't go from me. I'm gonna go Ravens.
Starting point is 00:23:55 You can't go from me. Oh, I watch the Ravens every Sunday. Thirty-something years, man. I watch the Ravens every Sunday. Wait, you done with the Cowboys? Thirty-something years, man. You can't just let it go like that. You done with the Cowboys? I'm done.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Damn. I'm still hanging on with the Raiders. I'm done. Well, you done with the Cowboys? 30-something years, man. You can't just let it go like that. Yeah, you done with the Cowboys? I'm done. Damn. I'm still hanging on with the Raiders. I'm done. Well, that's your fault. Yeah, I was a Raider fan. Yeah, I was still a Raider fan. I'm just waiting for them to come back to L.A. Yeah, you born in Saginaw.
Starting point is 00:24:16 No, dead ass. Yeah, yeah. You don't like the Lions at all? No, I don't. I mean, but we got to give them their love. They snapped a 32-year drought, bringing pride back to the city. Their first playoff win in 32 years. Yeah, they take up how their head coach is.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Like, he an asshole, and they play like they ass. Like, they play hard-nosed, tough football. Wait, say that again. Gil, your favorite city. No, no, say that again. Their what? Their first playoff win in 32 years? Like, round one. Playoff win at any round.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Like, 91 since Barry Sanders was in Barry Sanders. Yeah It's been that long. It's been that long your favorite city and they still got a football team Yeah, choose your words wisely Gil. No shout out the city of Detroit They should get the Pistons boneless wings for that win. Yeah I'm gonna chip come on. What I'm saying. How can you have a guy? How can you be a professional team with a... And you go to number one. The team that never won. Like how?
Starting point is 00:25:07 You literally just not... You just probably don't care about the sport and it's just there for the money. Because there's no fucking way you can be in... This is a... They've had some decent teams. This is your investment though. This is like a right. Since then they've had some decent teams.
Starting point is 00:25:21 They've made the... But they just lost in the first round. They just couldn't win. That's all. They had some decent teams. So they just lost in the first round. They just couldn't win. That's all. They had some decent teams. So Lions have 13 total wins this season. Pistons are currently 3-36 this season. How many teams are in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:25:35 32. 32. 32 teams. Yeah. So only one can win every year. No, no, not one every year. No, this is the first playoff win in 32 years. No, a lot of teams win every year, good. I mean, the other 30 years. No, no, not one every, no. This is the first playoff win in 32 years, no. A lot of teams win a playoff round.
Starting point is 00:25:51 How long did the Sacramento Kings go? 16 seasons, right? 16 seasons was what? Playoff. So they went half of that. Damn near half of that. Without making the post. They were sorry, bro. Without making the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Come on, it can happen, bro. You act like this shit ain't a thing. And they playing one game. Okay, okay. So they not playing a series. You know how hard it is not to win a series? Isn't that long?
Starting point is 00:26:12 Right, just one game. Just one game. But that shit is tough, bro. So Lions 13 total wins this season, 12 in the regular season, and this playoff win. Pistons are currently 3-36 this season.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Who finishes the season with more wins? The Lions or the Pistons? You think the Pistons can get the 13 wins? Maybe. Because them late season wins. They're going to be playing some bad teams. They're going to get 15. No, not a chance.
Starting point is 00:26:38 They're not getting 15 wins. They ain't playing themselves. They're not getting 15 wins. They playing themselves are still lose. This is a janky world. All right. At the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:26:50 we all know whoever is the last, whoever's dead last don't ever get the number one pick. So you want to be second to last in heightening your chance to get a number one pick. So, therefore,
Starting point is 00:27:03 they got to win at least 14, 15 games. Okay. Just to enhance their chances. Boy, they're going to fight with some, there's going to be a few teams fighting for that bottom. That's why they need the way off. I'm going to fight for second spot, second to the 31.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I want 31 spot. I want 32. All right, well, that fulfills our football obligation for 2024. There's some games on tonight, today, though. Yeah, what, the Eagles, Bucs, and then the Bills. Go Bucs. Call that. If it's that cold.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I should be a Bucs fan since I'm from Tampa. You should. Yeah, you should have been. But it's pointless now because we won the championship. You missed that window. Hey, damn. You missed that window. Raiders, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:42 I'm telling you something. I was a Brady fan. The Snake D. I was a Cowboys. Let's go Vegas Raiders. Listen, no, I'm telling you something. I was a Brady fan. The snake didn't like the Cowboys. I was a... Let's go Vegas Raiders. Listen, no, I hate to say this. Mm-hmm. I hate to see people... The only way the Raiders was going to be move out of Oakland and Al Davis passed away,
Starting point is 00:27:54 God rest his soul, right? The only way the Cowboys is going to be anything, they got to get that out their family, dog. They ain't going to never sell it. Is the family cursed? Yes. It's the same thought process. Like, they got to get that out their family, dog. Like, they ain't going to never sell it. Is the family cursed? Yes. And it's the same thought process.
Starting point is 00:28:12 But, I mean, he crying, man. You crying. That means that shit hurt. Listen, in sports, y'all. That hurt. Throughout the history of sports, I don't know too many sports that the owner is the president, the GM, the COO, the CFO, the GM, the COO, the CFO, the GM,
Starting point is 00:28:28 the fucking head scout, he do the goddamn radio report, he talk to the media, like, motherfucker wear 10 hats. He too old for all that. Yeah, he got a... He the scout too? And the last time,
Starting point is 00:28:42 he go to watch the... What owners, you know, go to the combine and just sit and watch He got his evaluating. What's what scouts are for the auction But that's why that's why he crying that shit hurt then my brother. I rather Delegate responsibility to some you do you do and you got to let football people do football shit, right? Hello, you've been in this who Jared He bought the team in fucking 70 what oh, yeah, this is this is this is baby this Yeah, I know but still like you gotta do yeah, this is baby man
Starting point is 00:29:16 And you and you got your son right there with you and it's the same thought process like it there has been Just say over the last five years, I'm not going to just say over the last five years, how many decent free agents or guys that was on the market that we could have gave like a fifth round fucking pick for, that's Jamal Adams, was trying to get out of the fucking jets. They They wanted a fourth, fifth-round pick for him. You're not going to get a Jamal Adams with a fifth-round pick this year.
Starting point is 00:29:52 This is the shit like that. They don't make moves for decent players when they're available. They'd rather go through the draft and see how guys pan out, which I get to a certain degree, but you got proven guys that can go out and fucking get the job done and they don't do it. I mean but he's I mean he does know talent though right? Who? Jura.
Starting point is 00:30:13 I mean all the talented people that went through that I mean that's been under his umbrella right the Deion all of them they went under his right? Jared Jones was there I mean um fucking Jimmy Johnson was there they let him go because he had too much say-so and too much power. Barry Switzer was there. He won. He didn't want him around no more. Oh, the clash of the... They like the Bulls. Ooh. We're going to talk about...
Starting point is 00:30:36 We're going to talk about the Bulls in a second, but first... Like certain teams. Let's talk about another Chicagoan. Dwyane Wade turned Dade County into Wade County during his time with the Heat. And for all that he did for Heat culture, or Spole culture as Gil likes to call it, Pat Riley announced that the Heat will make Wade the first player in franchise history with their own statue. I think we're going to put a bobblehead like out there next year will be a statue eight feet tall. Eight feet tall.
Starting point is 00:31:11 We wanted to make sure it was bigger than Shaquille O'Neal. It'll be the first statue ever that they'll be here on Biscayne Boulevard, Dwayne. And it is forever for the greatest player in the history of this game, man. So, Dwayne, we're going to start with you. Dwayne, we're going to start with you coming fall 2024. So, you guys all got the chance to play against D-Wade during your time in the league. How cold was D-Wade during his time with the Heat, and what made this game so special?
Starting point is 00:31:42 The strong, quick, fast, powerful, explosive, right? And you know, that dog mentality, it's different on how people use it, but the way he just approached the game, you know. Just one word. Relentless. Relentless. You took the offense, everything that you said, I was going to solve,. Just one word. Relentless. Relentless. You took the offense, they just won. Everything that you said, I was gonna solve,
Starting point is 00:32:08 it was one word. Yeah. Relentless. Yeah, no, he was good, nah, he was a hell of a basketball player, man. Like, nah, for what he came in and did, come from a small school in Marquette. Nah, yeah, deserving, like very,quette. No, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Deserving. Deserved, yeah. Yeah. What's your favorite memories from playing against D-Wade? You already know your story when you had to phone check and apologize. I think mine is the finals. His first finals appearance against Dallas. Averaging almost, what, 40 or something that series
Starting point is 00:32:46 or something like that. I think I was in like the 10th grade, 11th grade when I saw that, so that was inspiring. Kenny, how about yourself? Oh yeah, no, that finals appearance was one for the ages. And people forget that, how good he was in that series. Like how dominant he was in that series. Nah, he, shit, that was, having Shaq there was cool,
Starting point is 00:33:14 but he, that was his team. And he carried that team to that championship, so. That thing, we realized how good he was when I think they played, was it BD in that first round? Mm-hmm. BD in the playoffs? Yeah, and that was his, what, second? No, that was his rookie year, right?
Starting point is 00:33:33 That was his rookie year, and how he performed in that first round was just amazing just for a young player. Yeah. On another note, we playing playing This is his rookie year They I'm with the net still Game they drew up out of bounds play For him to catch it and turn the corner. They run the double on the weak side. I Ain't even paying the double no attention because they running to play for him for the hand back up top They hand it back to him. You go to him. I grab his shit off the glass for game.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Two hands. Let me get that. Let me get that. He looked around like, they definitely wasn't doing this shit at Marquette. He's like, I'm glad I had to play against this motherfucker at Cincinnati. Shit. Let me get that. Hold on, young fella.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Oh, yeah, for game. Great play design, but you ran it with the wrong person on the floor. Yeah, you're like, yeah, you run that shit with somebody else who's going to be trying to jump out there and deny the double, coming off the double, like, decoy, decoy. You get that. D-Way getting the first Heat statue, but who deserves the next Heat statue, Shaq or LeBron?
Starting point is 00:34:44 You're Donis Haslam. Ooh, okay. Is it Shaq? Was Shaq there two years? Don't matter, Gil. It does. It does. It's a Shaq culture.
Starting point is 00:34:52 No, there's not. Udonis Haslam. Yeah, you do. If you give somebody else a statue. If you're going to give somebody else a statue. But, like, I know people in the fashion and shit like that. I just want Dwayne to put on, like, a full shirt when he got in the suit. He got in the tank top.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I got Miami. He in Miami. It's fashionable. I get that. But I'm like, he took that motherfucker off the shoot, that jug, that three in the corner. I was like, oh, this is more sexy. Listen, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:35:19 When I get my abs, you're going to be wearing shit. Shit, every suit, jacket I have ain't gonna have no shirt under that. I'm not even gonna lie to you. Just chest and- Sound like fucking KJ. Yeah, chest and ass, baby. I'm gonna start wearing no shirt under. No shirt under, man.
Starting point is 00:35:37 You said the next person to get a statue? A heat statue. Yeah. So we know D-Way's the first. I'm gonna say LeBron. You feel LeBron over Udonis? Yeah, because the impact that LeBron brought. I think his impact and what he brought to Miami when they went to a drought
Starting point is 00:35:52 and what'd they go, five straight finals or something like that? Four. Four straight finals, MVP, finals MVP, his first rings there. You know, I think if anybody, I think it's LeBron just, you know, or Pat Riley. Well, if that's the case, you might as well get Shaq one. No, he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:36:11 If you get LeBron, you might as well get Shaq one. No, Shaq didn't do the damage that LeBron did, though. Like, LeBron, it was, like, it was every year that he was in the finals. But they would have won it every year. Huh?
Starting point is 00:36:23 If they would have won it every year, I get you. I hear your point. If they run the game, when they, yeah, which they should have. Alonzo Mourning? Zoe, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Alonzo Mourning? Yeah, before any of them, Zoe. Absolutely. We're sure. So let's keep, so KD has previously said that he deserves to have his jersey retired by the Warriors.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Two-time champ, two-time finals MVP. We know Steph getting a statue. Klay and Dre probably deserve them too for their roles in the Warriors dynasty. But does KD? Wait, wait, wait. Wait a second. Gil, if we're just playing.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Man, wait, hold. Everybody gets a statue. We're not doing this. Everybody gets statue shit. I'm about to say, yo, hold on. Hold on. There's all these statues going around like they doing something. You're not giving Klay and Dre a statue. Yo, we not doing this. Everybody gets statue shit. I'm about to say, yo, hold on. Hold on. There's a lot of statues going around like they doing something. You're not giving Clay and Dre a statue?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Hell no. Fuck. A little bit smaller than that. No. No. Miami about to be in a win now because they gave Dwayne Wade a statue. I mean, what the fuck are we talking about? The statues is him.
Starting point is 00:37:21 See, I kind of know. Him. That's what I'm saying. I don't really like the duet He deserved it for the heat coach. I get that but the fact that he left and went and played two more places No, he left because of them. I don't but still even though they didn't want to pay him. Well shit They you know that I was a so therefore there's no now you try to make up for it. I mean she better They better they want to win and they better win they better keep that way County going
Starting point is 00:37:48 So so girl you don't feel like playing playing Dre deserve a statue. Oh, no The one was right on their shoulders There's one person right now Dre with the backpack. There's only one person Tim Duncan He get a statue? Dirk. Dirk already got one. He got one.
Starting point is 00:38:09 LeBron getting two. Maybe three. LeBron getting one in Cleveland. One in Cleveland. That's it. He should get one in Miami. That's not going to happen. That ain't happening. Well, I mean.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Cleveland. Cleveland. Cleveland. Cleveland. Who else? Y'all got me fucked up. I think Chuck maybe can get one in Philly I'm the same just how they would have been did it. I'm the name rocky shit, maybe
Starting point is 00:38:32 Maybe oh, maybe what wait wait Wait Katie and what the lawyers Reggie Miller should get one You right Reggie Miller should get one. For what? Too late. Who? For what? Reggie? For what?
Starting point is 00:38:47 He didn't win. It don't matter what he did there. His whole career there. What he did. Well, everybody should get a statue then. No. No, you just said you got to beat him. Who's playing the whole career in one place? Him.
Starting point is 00:38:56 He was him. Who was playing the whole career in one place? Who's the best player in Indiana history? Him. Who's playing the whole career in one place? Brandon Jennings? He did, but he didn't win. So who got to win? Him!
Starting point is 00:39:05 So they're giving Iverson a statue at the Sixers practice facility. Okay. Hold on, man. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm saying? He didn't even like practice like that. He didn't even like practice like that. You see where this shit is going? The practice facility.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Listen, and I'm going to tell y'all 100% that is a fucking lie. Dude. I know. You can't be that good without practice. Hey, listen, I'm going to tell you, listen, though, the man don't come out of practice. You've got unlimited access to music, but time? Now that's limited. The PC Insider's World's Elite MasterCard gets you unlimited PC Optima points,
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Starting point is 00:40:12 like, I know what everybody's doing, but that's, the man don't come out of practice. He plays the entire time. That's how he's in such great shape. The man average 42. 42 minutes? 42 minutes a fucking night in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:40:29 So, you gotta practice in order to fucking do that. You ain't just doing that shit in the game, trust me. So, question though, does KD deserve a award? Wait, why the fuck is his shit at the practice facility? The fans don't give a fuck. Then the Sixers are stupid. Who the fuck goes to the practice facility as a fan?
Starting point is 00:40:45 Like, I got to go to the Pride facility to get a picture with the fucking statue? Somebody going to steal it. No, that's be in the arena where we can come take pictures like some goofy ass fan. Put a do-rag on it. That shit is Camden. Man, they go, man.
Starting point is 00:40:59 That's dumb. Rocky got one. Let's go back to the, Reggie Miller don't deserve a statue. Like, if you ain't winning the championship, you don't deserve a statue. That championship ain't got dude shit. Okay, let's take that element off the table. Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Right. LeBron in Cleveland. LeBron in Cleveland. But no LeBron in Miami. Man, yes, and LeBron in Miami, bro. He get two, bro. He's not getting a statue. Two, two get a jersey.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Lonzo Mourning, maybe, in Miami. But... Last time. That's tough. How about Bird? Does Bird have one? Oh. Oh, they don't have a statue?
Starting point is 00:41:34 They're not doing it. They don't know where to put that statue. Because they got to put Bill Russell. You know what I mean, niggas? They got to put Bill Russell. You know what I mean? They got to put Bill Russell. That shit going to look like the Hall of Fame heads.
Starting point is 00:41:41 No, no, no, no, no. What? No, no, no. It's going to look like that wall outside the mall for crypto. It's only two. For the Kings. It's only two people, really. Three, maybe.
Starting point is 00:41:51 In Boston? Yeah. If you stayed there the whole time? You honest? It'd be Will, I mean, Bill Russell, Bird, and maybe Paul Pierce. I'm rolling with Paul. I'm rolling with those three outside. That's possible. The rest of the mother was sidekicks. I'm rolling with Paul. I'm rolling with those three outside. That's possibly it.
Starting point is 00:42:05 The rest of the mother was sidekicks. I'm rolling. I mean, that's fun, but they're going to try to figure out a way to put... I'm sorry. It's going to be like their mule down at the Cripple, the stable center with the Kings. They got... Don't look like that. They got like six men up there in the rafters and shit, man.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Anybody who put on a jersey, we're just going to retire you. Come on over here. We'll retire your jersey. You want to a jersey, we just going to retire you. Come on over here. We'll retire your jersey. You want to come to the Boston? We'll retire your jersey. Come on to Boston. Ain't no numbers available out there, bitch. Back to the original question.
Starting point is 00:42:32 You said it got to be him to get a statue. Does KD deserve a Warrior statue? Hell yeah. No. Yes, and go to state. Yes. Yo, y'all. We got to stop this, bro.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Like, we got to stop this. A statue. What does a statue say? I am him I came here and I made that and I and I am impactful. I'm impactful All right came I saw I came I saw I conquered. Yeah, I I did all that MVP finals cool Okay, Pippen have Pippen have how many how many championships over there? Does he got a statue? Okay, well, they're okay Rodman got okay. We got him the whole Bulls team cuz I go have okay We did Derek Fisher should get one to uh James worthy all these niggas. What the fuck no can't go
Starting point is 00:43:13 No, those are fucking role players. No no fucking role player deserves a fucking statue way to you know No, no, we give his statues to people who did three years my two years is better than then Anybody else who plays best No, okay. No, that's it. There's one side of him, but I'm about you but listen outside of Steph though I'm the best player to ever come here and that's that you need to be an outsider out How you say outside of him they ever they ever put on a war anything? Matter it don't matter No one statue to can go to can go up no in there not there Draymond and choke the shit out that's that you It don't matter. It don't matter. It does. Somebody else got to come. Nobody else. That's it. No. That's one statue.
Starting point is 00:43:46 Two. Two can go. Two can go. I'm throwing Katie in there. No. Not there. Draymond will choke the shit out of that statue. I mean, I mean, I mean, shit, you got to do what you got to do. Get this motherfucker down. I mean, you got to do what you got to do. I mean, they pay me to score. And that's...
Starting point is 00:43:58 I put the ball in the rim, man. That's what I do. And that statue should be in Oakland, not in San Francisco. That's fine. Fair. Fair. That's fine. Only step? Yes. So far, only step. Clay doesn't get a statue. You're number two.
Starting point is 00:44:11 You've been a number two option the whole time. No, that means... I can't... No, a statue... Bro, a statue, you got to be that... People got to come watch you play. Are they buying tickets to watch you or not? You're not. All right, then.
Starting point is 00:44:20 No, no, then, no. Who got the number one selling jersey? Option number two? No, no. Y'all are sick. Y'all don't want your nobody to get one too next, huh? No, no, no. Who got the number one selling jersey? No, bro. Y'all are sick. Y'all going to want your nobody to get one, too, next time. No, that's what I said. Well, Derek, you got to get one.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Six, man. Before we move on, producer, what are the odds that Darviham gets a statue? I mean, hold on. Listen, if he come back and they win a championship. Hands in his pockets. Shout out Darviham. All right in his pockets let's keep this thing more we got to talk about unfortunate darvin ham say he pulling up on you
Starting point is 00:44:50 pulling up on you I love darvin ham I got there okay I'm just checking I know I already had it my claimer hey you know I'm a liquor fan right he looking for you I was like any grown man named Arvin see from sagging also we good He was mad around he was y'all shit around the way looking for Gil Yeah, yeah, honestly get one y'all just to get one the honest again when I'm a walk you know sure and that shit gonna be 10 feet tall Alright, so let's talk about an unfortunate moment Bulls honored their inaugural Ring of Honor class on Friday night during the game against the Warriors
Starting point is 00:45:23 MJ Pippen Dennis Rodman didn't pull up. Phil Jackson was in the building to join the other inductees. But the highlight or lowlight of the ceremony was Bulls fans' reaction when Jerry Krause was announced. Two-time NBA Executive of the Year, represented by his wife Thelma, Basketball Hall of Famer and former Bulls general manager Jerry Kraus Why they do Thelma like that? They didn't do Thelma like that. They did Kraus like that. That's her man. That's her man. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:46:05 They were booing her? They were booing him, not her. I know, but that's probably why she was crying. That's why she was crying. Yeah, but Bulls' commentating crew was critical of the move. Stacey King, a former Bull, went off, as was Steve Kerr after the game. Now, some have blamed Kraus' portrayal in the last dance as the impetus for those Bulls, but native Chicagoans have been blaming Kraus for breaking up the Bulls after the 98 title
Starting point is 00:46:26 and prematurely ending their dynasty for a long, long time. Surprisingly, Jerry Reinsdorf didn't really get much of that blame. He owned the team, but I'm not... He wasn't really breaking bread like he was supposed to be back in those times, but that's neither here nor there.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Are Bulls fans out of pocket for booing Kraus at the Ring of Honor ceremony? Yeah, absolutely. Foul. Yeah, that's horrible, man. You know, especially with his wife there. Like, she wouldn't attend. This is one thing.
Starting point is 00:47:03 But... Not in front of Thelma. No, but people have... So why not cheer the good times that he had? Like, he was a part of them winning. And people have memories like an elephant when they want to, once again. I mean, Catalyst for those six rings, so you got to talk about all the good stuff that he did for the city. Buying that man name and buying him in front of his wife, man,
Starting point is 00:47:21 that's horrible to people. I think because of, because him and Jordan were at odds the whole time. And, they don't give, they don't give him the credit for the team. All right?
Starting point is 00:47:39 He puts it up. And what you had was, you had two titans. You had two titans, Jordan and Kraus. You had two titans that were battling. And Jordan was an individual. Kraus was a team person. So the beef between the two was personal.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Everything Jordan wanted to do, he went opposite. Looking at how Jordan and how he was picking players in Charlotte, Kraus was smart. Kraus was smart, right? You know, so they bumped heads on a lot of things. And I wrote some of the things like Jordan wanted Johnny Dawkins, who was a 6'2 guard. 6'2 guard. 6'2 guard. And Kraus wanted Brad Sellers and told Jordan, yeah, I'm going to get you a guy.
Starting point is 00:48:32 And they went with Brad Sellers in the draft anyway. Right? So when you're talking about building a team, Kraus built this team. That first championship, everybody on that team was Kraus' players besides Jordan. Jordan was the only person that wasn't something he picked or from his lesson So he built a team around Jordan. I mean from Scotty Pippen finding him in you know at a d3 Shit Trading got rid of that was problem, too
Starting point is 00:49:02 He got rid of Oakley which was Michael George's best friend at the time his defendant got rid of, that was problem two. He got rid of Oakley, which was Michael George's best friend at the time. His defender got rid of him. Brungan Bill Cartwright for him. Fired Doug Collins. Brungan Tex Winter. This is some shit that we got to think about. With Phil Jackson, right?
Starting point is 00:49:21 The offense Phil was running wasn't even his. Right? And the reason he got the job, he got the job itself and you have to run this offense. And the offense was designed, the triangle was designed to keep the ball out of Michael Jordan's hands.
Starting point is 00:49:41 That's crazy, right? Okay. The offense was designed to keep it out of his hands because they felt he was dominant and said if we want to win, we needed to move it around. But as great as Michael Jordan was, obviously he's going to find out how to manipulate the offense and then work best for him.
Starting point is 00:49:57 But it's one of those things where he should be praised for what he was doing because every pick he made... Panned out. Panned out. When Jordan retired and he went and got Kerr, Luke Longley, and Ron Harper, so when Jordan got back,
Starting point is 00:50:21 this is what you have now, right? Kool Coach. Kool Coach. got back this is what you have now right so cool cool cool it was I mean the problem is it's it's it's it's Michael Jordan and you yeah and we're gonna pick a side and we're gonna pick Michael Jordan side even though between the two of them they were at odds because you know Michael Jordan felt he was betrayed by some of the shit he was doing, which rightfully so. But it was the betterment of the team.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And that was the thing, that at the end of the day, it was the betterment of the team, and I think the fans themselves, it's like you pissed Michael Jordan off, one. Two, we are a championship team, and you're being bullheaded by saying Phil Jackson, and the reason he fired Phil Jackson is because Phil laughed at a joke Michael Jordan said about him.
Starting point is 00:51:16 So he's like, yeah, you laughing at jokes? You're like, you gonna laugh at him? I can't get rid of him, but I can get you for kiki-ing and shit. So, you know, he said, I don't give a fuck if you go 82 and oh he's fired Absolutely that right there. You know, I mean that right there is why the fans don't like it because you didn't allow The NBA to beat the Bulls you beat the Bulls Right you beat the Bulls you didn't allow them to get beat so you gave San Antonio a free championship for 99 That team wasn't even positioned to beat goddamn Bulls
Starting point is 00:51:54 So you gave you gave them a championship? So, you know the the city resents you for that I'm which you know, so I get it but they do got they they should give him his respect for the the team Yeah, at least give some of the respect Especially find his wife. Thelma out here, ten toes down, trying to represent for the Krause family. Yeah, that's horrible. I mean, the city... You know how that is, man.
Starting point is 00:52:13 She went through all the turmoil, all the good times, and all the late nights, and him being gone, and they bring her back and they do that like they it was one of those things I don't think they should have had the graphics up there, you know damn well these motherfuckers still pissed off at this man Right, they should have just been her let it's about her. I wouldn't have they should have me Michael Jordan Krause Like they were booing the graphics, not the woman.
Starting point is 00:52:46 But, you know, I mean, as I'm pretty sure just as the spouse, right? You know, you're down there. You know, you're there to be honored and the fans still won't let go. I know that hurt. But the thing is, the motherfuckers that's booing, they're adults. I mean, they was kids then. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:09 Like, so you motherfuckers, like, come on, man. Like, y'all, come on, man. Like, y'all, not even kids. They don't remember that shit. Somebody had to tell them. I mean, they should have known, though. How many of that team didn't show up So MJ Pippen, right? You don't expect him to you don't expect Robin. He gonna do it
Starting point is 00:53:30 Oh, you don't expect Mike and Pip to be there. Not necessarily should they right now? I'm just they're not fucking what's going on today as we sit on this Expected them to to be there right? mean because of the other because of what I'm yeah We ask every day. Just can't bring his family. That's all Could have showed up with his booty shorts and boots with a little fanny pack on It's a celebration. I'm serious. It should have been there. Some of y'all should have been there.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Is Kross' decision to prematurely end that and make that last dance the most detrimental decision to Chicago sports ever? Yeah. No, I mean, yeah. I mean, his stance, his personal stance, same with Michael Jordan's.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Your personal stance is same with Michael Jordan's. Your personal stance is what the problem was, right? Obviously, winning the championships... Winning the champ... I'll be honest, I mean, we can ask, was winning the championship even fun for Michael Jordan? That last year? all of it because If I'm telling you pick this person pick this person pick this person and you go against everything I'm trying to do and you go this way and we win
Starting point is 00:54:55 your way How does that affect my ego right right everything you doing we winning everything I'm doing Know everything I'm doing still work. I'm still working cuz still after 35 yeah I'm still doing me but I'm still at 35 at this business like I won't stay you know y'all get chicken this is y'all y'all trying to put this triangle okay y'all keep the ball on man okay I'm still there is a motherfucking 33 but that's the only thing is like move from 35 to 33 so it just seems it just seems that so many egos when
Starting point is 00:55:28 So much success was happening and it's like like y'all just went back to back and you're telling the coach that This your last young you fuck what y'all do? Do why don't you just wait for him to lose or wait to start the next season go to Oh intended fire him But the fact that you already put that out there. Like you put a negative thing into the season and they still won. So just for clarification, I think Robins flight got delayed,
Starting point is 00:55:55 but he wanted to be there, he was extremely emotional about it. I think he was flying spirit. Yeah. So to your point, you said like, the triangle and then to keep the ball out his hand, right? And people used to your point, you said the triangle and then to keep the ball out of his hand, right? Mm-hmm. And people used to wonder, like, so that's why the point forward,
Starting point is 00:56:13 Scottie Pippen thing came. Because he told Scottie to bring it up. Bring it up. And that's when, like, Lamar, fucking L.O. used to bring the ball up. But that's what I said. Everybody talked about the triangle was being shown this great offense, but the offense was created for equal opportunity, get the ball out of his hands,
Starting point is 00:56:34 and get the ball out of a dominant player's hands, not realizing that the ball finds the best player no matter what offense you have. You're going to dictate. You're going to dictate. Absolutely. You know how that shit is. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:46 If Cole get a shot, I'm a damn bull. I was in a fucking Princeton offense. I'm gonna know how to manipulate this shit. I'm gonna throw this motherfucker where I know what the next pass is. That bitch coming back to me. Yeah. So we asked the chat,
Starting point is 00:56:58 are Bulls fans out of pocket for booing Kraus? 66% said yes. 34% said no. Don't boo his work. that's all I'm saying. That ain't a word, that's his wife's work. Special work. That's his wife. Franchise tag. Franchise tag. That's his wife's wife.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Special work is the one that travels with you. Eternal franchise tag. That's the one you travel. He's eternal franchise tag. Alright, well let's keep this thing moving. Gil, on this day 17 years ago, I don't know if you know this. I know what day it is. You dropped a 51 piece on the Jazz. First person in history. To drop 50 on the Jazz? No, to drop 50 in Martin Luther King Day. You had a dream, Gil. You had a dream. Let's take a look at some of the
Starting point is 00:57:44 highlights. You were 14 for 29 from the take a look at some of the highlights. You were 14 for 29 from the field, 7 for 12 from 3, and 16 for 17 from the free throw line. Did you do that? Is that Karolinko? Huh? Is that Karolinko? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Oh, so no, I'll give you my. Oh, he got that work. I understand now. He was silent defender, so therefore I know what it. You did it on MLK day, good. You also hit. Who was that guard you hit? Nobody. Nobody. Was that Derrick Fisher? Yeah, because Derrick Williams was having
Starting point is 00:58:14 trouble. Derrick Williams was having trouble. He just got back in the game. Game tied. Game tied, Gil, for MLK's honor, for the city of Salt Lake City. Put them in their place. What would you do? Hit a game-winning three. Boom. You know what?
Starting point is 00:58:29 This is a player here. I want you to watch him shoot the basketball. Forget about it going into the basket. No chance. But watch him. He comes down, throws his hand the other way. Did you even watch it go in, or did you? No, he watched it.
Starting point is 00:58:44 I felt that. He was already turning as it was going. What if you were to make it? First person in history, baby. First person in history. For Martin Luther the King? Yeah, I should get like a day or something. You should get a statue.
Starting point is 00:58:58 I should get a statue, you feel me? I should get a statue just because of that. Was there any extra motivation in doing it to the Jazz and to disrespect the city of Salt Lake? No, no, no. Just another game. Just another game representing our blacks. So the only other players to score 50 on MLK Day, Jason Tatum, Kemba Walker, and Dame had a 61 piece. Yep, that means after me. You were the trailblazer, Gil. So what were you thinking during that 51 piece? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:27 And Dame will be sixth, first 60. And he wears zero. Oh, yeah. Jason Tatum wears zero. Oh, shit. There's three zeros. That's crazy as hell. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:59:37 How do you feel when you see a good player wearing zero versus how do you feel when you see a sorry player wearing zero at any level of basketball? No, I mean the zero wasn like, being good or bad. It was just, like, if you feel like, you know, you've been jaded or people not respecting, you know, your work ethic or how good you are. You know, that's... But if they were trash, wouldn't that mean that...
Starting point is 00:59:56 I mean, if they were trash... They deserve to be zero? No, that ain't true. I'm just saying. For sure, for sure. I think double zero is disgusting, too. Disgusting. That shit is disgusting Well one zero one zero
Starting point is 01:00:14 Was always been from Orlando war is this been cool, but The double the doubles even though I think a Kevin Duckworth Every time I see double zero I see see that nasty-ass blazer jersey and Double Zero, and he big as shit, so them zeros look extra big on that motherfucker. Who wore Double Zero? Kyle Watson from Above the Rim? What was that? No, he wore 50, didn't he?
Starting point is 01:00:34 Was it 55? But I thought he wore Double Zero in high school, Kyle Watson in Above the Rim. I think that's where it came from. Could've been. That shit's disgusting. All right, well, let's keep this up. Oh, wait, we got a- I think that's where it came from. Could've been. This shit's disgusting. All right, well, let's keep this up. Oh, wait, we got a...
Starting point is 01:00:48 Scoot Henderson wear that shit now, right? Yeah, because he... He got that double zero with them goggles on. He look so cute. Oh! Oh, that's cute. Man, I was up there by myself for a while. What you looking at?
Starting point is 01:01:03 You look like you looking at Tatum. Yeah, because I'm looking like that's when you know who was first. That's when you know who was first. He looking the whole other way. You ain't trying to take a picture with us. When's Malcolm X Day? Huh? When's Malcolm X Day?
Starting point is 01:01:16 Is Malcolm X Day during the season? Malcolm X is going to get a day as soon as Clayton get a statue. You think so? Deva. And, I mean, we see Tatum on there, so let's talk a little bit about the Celtics. statue Deva And I mean we see Tatum on there, so let's talk a little bit about the Celtics Based on the way the season is shaping up ESPN analytics. Hello was zero zero disgusting
Starting point is 01:01:35 so Dude no, I think another one clear you're picking that one. Let's go. Let's start. Let's go. So based on the way the season is shaping up, ESPN Analytics is projecting that the Celtics and Clippers will meet in the NBA Finals. You said who said that? NBA Analytics? Oh, so y'all know they wrong. Oh, you know they wrong. But this prediction came before the Clippers lost to the Wolves on Sunday night. But the Clippers are still 17-4 since December 1st.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Celtics are holding down the top spot in the league, 19-0 at home this season. But I know it's a little too early, but this is MLK Day, and we got to have dreams and visions. Who are your current NBA Finals favorites? Boston, Denver. finals favorites? Ooh. Ooh. Boston, Denver. Mm.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Clippers, Bucks or Clippers, Boston. Mm. Not Bucks? What'd you say? You gotta pick one. What'd you say? Clippers, Clippers or Bucks. You gotta pick one. What'd you say? Clippers or bucks. No or? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:48 No fucking or? Cantel, stand on business. Oh, I mean, um, bucks. Bucks and Clippers? Yeah. Let me give you... Let me give you my three options. Yeah, shit. I wasn't convincing, Brandon. I know, right? You really believe it?
Starting point is 01:03:04 No. It's just injuries, injuries. So full health, you think? Oh, yeah, and then Bucs, Clippers. Okay, so Bucs is getting out the East. Yeah, for sure. Kenny, who are you rolling with for the NBA Finals? Boston, Denver. Okay, so we got two Nuggets, Celtics.
Starting point is 01:03:26 Can any team beat the Celtics in a seven-game series if the Celtics have home court advantage? They're 19-0 at home right now. Yeah. Okay. Because they're not disciplined. I mean, they're good, but when you're talking about playoffs, right, as great as Tatum is and great as Brown is, they don't
Starting point is 01:03:46 generate a lot of fouls because they're jump shooters, right? They're guys who's going to pull up and they're going to try to go for the middie. They're going to go for the three. They're going to do a lot of step back, step away, fadeaways. So they're not going to get in that penalty when it's time to be gotten in, too, if that even made sense. And when you have someone like Joker who's going to be sitting there trying to collect free throws and get that team in a penalty. So, you know, they're going to have to make a conscious decision to attack and don't settle for jumpers, you know, all series.
Starting point is 01:04:21 And they're going to have to try to play big. They're going to play big. Okay. Because if you put Porzingis out there at the five, you can't afford for him to get in fire trouble. Ray, what do you think about Southerns at home? Anybody got a shot? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Bucks? Yeah, for sure. Don't matter? Don't matter. They're ready for all smoke. Four games. We'll figure it out. So the record for best regular season home record is 40-1.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Spurs did it in 2016, Celtics did it in 1986. And this Boston team matched that home record. The fuck is their home record? They're 19-0 right now. No. Yeah, I mean, you're not rolling? Not rolling? Not in this NBA.
Starting point is 01:05:10 So let's talk about the Nuggets and Joker a little bit. Joker's one of the best passing big men the game has ever seen. He added another one to his resume recently. Playing against the Pelicans. Wait, wait, hold on. Heading towards halftime. Playing against the Pelicans. Energy and execution. Wait, wait, hold on. Infinity and beyond right here. Nikola Jokic feels the two defenders on him. And he's got that telepathy going.
Starting point is 01:05:35 As the best passing big man? I said it's one. Oh, one. One up. Okay. One up. I already know you're looking for the poke holes. No, I'm just saying, I mean, Chris Webber was a fucking hell of a passer.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Like, I mean, pound for pound, he was probably the best passer. You think Webber better passer than Joker? Better passer? Yeah. I doubt that. Doubt that? I doubt that. I mean, we're not talking about just collecting assists,
Starting point is 01:06:00 just the passing, the back doors between them. Yeah, doing all that. Hell yeah. Like, I mean, but they didn't remember. Just the passing the back doors between it. Yeah doing all that. Yeah like I mean, but they didn't remember me the power for it, right? Yeah, he's about they talk about centers of just big man It's just me. Okay. Oh, he didn't yeah, okay You rolling with Joker's passability can you are a Nuggets guy was that impressive to you or is that tonight's best, okay? Like Chris Webb was held as a pass Vl. Chris Webber was a hell of a passer.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Vlade Divac was a fucking hell of a passer. They played on the same fucking team. I was about to say, that team passed so fucking well. So was Webber the best passing big man when y'all were playing in the league, would you say? Probably. Like, when you're talking Probably. Like, we ain't talking about like. Because of the offense.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Well. Making the weird passes, yes. Yeah, that, but you gotta take into account the offense that they ran, too. Right. Yeah, they ran the same shit that we were. So, yeah, I made some fucking great passes and shit when I was playing. Like, dimes like a motherfucker. Because the offense that win. And then you got a point guard out there
Starting point is 01:07:03 that's trying shit, so you shit. Let me trust me try to Yeah, all that shit I did some you just gonna try some shit cuz he did it so Nuggets currently game behind the wolves For first in the West you guys feel like the West still runs through Denver though, right? Yeah, I do they got the best player in the conference, man. Yeah. Nobody else wants that smoke. Ayo, speak. Oh, yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Only because, you know, like Denver will be number one. I mean, Murray missed so many games, you know, that hurts him. But now he's back, so it's, you know. Getting ready for second half of the season. That's starting five, man. Once you got that to rely on. And him being there helped the season. That's starting five, man. Once you got that to rely on. And him being there helped the bench. Helped guys on the bench.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Brandon, what were you going to say? Hey, speaking of Denver, you see what Mello said about Jokic, about the number 15? I feel like y'all wanted to get into it. Yeah, how do you feel about that? He felt like they purposely did that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:08:03 To take his history away. They purposely gave 15 to a second round pick? I think so, man. They could have easily, if he wanted 15. Like, just say if Nicola wanted 15. Mm-hmm. I know Sparky. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Sparky wouldn't have done that. if somebody didn't tell him to. Mm-hmm. So his resume is big enough to keep the number 15 from nobody else wearing it? But not this soon, though. What I'm saying is it's not like it's soon.
Starting point is 01:08:37 They didn't have to retire. Like, this is when I went to Denver, right? I tried to get number four. Mm-hmm. As soon as I... No, actually, fucking Jersey. When I went to the Nets,
Starting point is 01:08:45 I was trying to get four. It wasn't retired, but out of respect for someone, they told me I couldn't get it. I don't know who the fuck it was, but out of respect for him. I was the number one pick in the fucking draft. Okay, that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:08:58 So therefore, if Nicola wanted 15, if there was a... Just out of respect. They ain't got to retire it. But just out of respect, no to retire but just out of respect now this would let you pick another one i don't know but that's been the playoffs forever who well i mean no i mean his resume i mean that man resume in denver come on man i understand we didn't win it but i mean compared to the knicks no no no his resume as a nick is way better um
Starting point is 01:09:23 huh as a nick is way better who mellow just as a yeah he's collected, his resume as a Knick is way better. Huh? As a Knick is way better. Who, Melo? Just as a, yeah, he's collected more individual stats as a Knick. I think he was six-time All-Star. Six-time All-Star versus four. Two gold medals with the Knicks jersey versus one. His scoring title was a Knick. Three all- Yeah, that's just the years that the Olympics shit,
Starting point is 01:09:48 because that's how the years- No, I'm just saying, but I'm just- So three all-NBAs, both cities, but his scoring title, six All-Stars, was over there. So- I mean, but the fact that they have, like, Mutombo and Fat Lever, jersey retired, but the idea of they're giving it to a second-round pick,
Starting point is 01:10:08 just they didn't know Jokic was going to be this good. Not at all. So therefore, even... So therefore, even... He shouldn't even have been able to... He shouldn't even have been able to think. That's all. He shouldn't even have been on the table for that to even...
Starting point is 01:10:21 And that's it. They got to retire out of respect. No, you can't get that out of respect. You want 15? Hold on. Hold on, hold on. We got to ask how many times was it rejected? How many times did somebody come in and ask for that number two?
Starting point is 01:10:34 And then it was like, nah, nah. Probably didn't. I would personally ask Sparky this. Yeah, you got to ask him. Because I know, listen, though, Sparky was our equipment. Sparky been there since the 80s. Great equipment manager sparky like we took care of spark
Starting point is 01:10:51 For a playoff share to care So That's a bit for the head to get yeah, we made the playoffs every year Yes, so who was cleaning up. But that's what I'm saying. Then that sparked his decision. No, it's not. I'm telling you, he wouldn't have done it.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Because everybody who's there that came from Mello's era. So Anthony Randolph also wore number 15, 2013, 14. That's what I'm saying. The judges warned me. That's what I mean saying. The judges won before. But just to give context. 2013. That's what I mean. Anthony Randolph. But just to give context to everybody watching, on Mello's podcast, 7 p.m. in Brooklyn,
Starting point is 01:11:30 that he does with the legend, the kid Mero, they talked about Joker wearing 15. Mello said it was a petty maneuver. It wasn't like we got numbers to choose from. It was like, here, you got number 15. He said, but I believe, but what I believe is they gave Joker number 15 to try and erase what I did. But Joker, in response to that, said, I think I've been wearing 15 my whole life.
Starting point is 01:11:50 So I get drafted by the Nuggets. Oh, so it wasn't a number. I wear 15. Yo, let me get that. The Nuggets was like, here you go, G. But that's what I'm saying. So that means Sparky gave it up before then, too. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:59 To the other person. Yeah. You know what I mean? But then nobody knew Nicola was going to be too high. Not that shit exists, but still. You know, I get it, but nobody knew Nicola was going to be two and a half. Not that. None of that shit exists, but still. You know, I get it, but I was there. Because you was there.
Starting point is 01:12:08 I was there. But so question for you guys. Coming in as rookies, we're picking jersey numbers. How does that work? Like when you come in. Like I said, I wanted four.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Some out of some. In Jersey. In Jersey? Yeah. Some in whatever the reason was. It sold me some bullshit, but I just went
Starting point is 01:12:25 with six, so. Okay. I mean, Arizona, I went with, I wanted 25. That was my- Yeah, but Steve Kerr- And they would say, we're going to retire Steve Kerr's number so you can't get 25. But they let Kerr Cresa wear it. Yeah, so he had to ask- But do you feel disrespected that Steve Kerr should have let you wear that 25 too?
Starting point is 01:12:42 No, I didn't know I can ask. Okay. So the young fella asked Kerr and Kerr was the one that- And he was obviously a lifelong Steve Kerr fan, literally named wear that 25 too. No, I didn't know I can ask. Okay. So the young fella asked Kerr. Yeah. And Kerr was the one that asked. And he was obviously a lifelong Steve Kerr fan, literally named after him. So it's a little bit different situation. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:51 But when y'all come to the leagues, it's basically like, all right, here's the options we have available. Not necessarily. That's different. Unless they're planning on retiring some jersey or the equipment manager doesn't give it up. So when I went to Washington, I had to buy zero from Brendan Haywood. He charged me 30 racks.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Because he had double zero and back then double zero and zero couldn't exist. So I had to buy, I gave him 30,000 for that jersey. And I know he regretted it because he's, damn I could have had more. But when I was done, the equipment manager, Rob Sullivan, may he rest in peace, he wouldn't give nobody that jersey. So when my baby came, he tried to get the jersey. Russ went there. They was asking Russ, was he going to get a jersey?
Starting point is 01:13:38 Russ said, I'll take four. And, you know, so like Bill was like, no one should get a jersey. And they released the jersey this year to the young kid. So how would you feel, obviously it was Akula Bay who ever got it? I think the zero now with the Wizards. Who? I thought it was Akula Bay. Bella the...
Starting point is 01:13:54 What's that dude's name? Akula. Akula, yeah. I don't see, you know. Yeah, the rookie, yeah. But how would you feel if you had a better career with the Wizards wearing that zero than you did? Would you feel any slight or pettiness, kind of like Melo's feeling right now with Joe?
Starting point is 01:14:07 Not because, I mean, it's my fault. I didn't finish my career off the way it's supposed to be. That's all of me. Even not the gun thing, just not taking my rehab the way I was supposed to, to not really finish my career off. I left it open for somebody to get it in. When Russ got there, shit, he open for somebody to get it and, you know. You know, like, when Russ got there, shit, he would've had a triple-double
Starting point is 01:14:28 in that motherfucker. He picked four, so shit. Bilal Koulibaly, whatever. All right, look, we trying our best on this show.
Starting point is 01:14:36 We're an African-American show. K pronounced, I feel like you. What'd you think, B? With my number three in Milwaukee? I mean, ain't nobody come in here and did anything with the number three yet. So I'm cool. I'm cool still. And go ahead, shit, give me a couple more
Starting point is 01:14:51 years, go ahead, retire that motherfucker. Can we get a Mr. B statue? It don't got to be a Pfizer for it, but somewhere in the general Milwaukee area. Something with a deer and a Bucks and six. Riding a deer with a Bucks and six. Riding a deer with a Bucks and six. I didn't know the Anthony Randolph kid wore it before, so to that point, yeah, he wore it. See, I didn't even know that either. Me neither. That must have been quick. So would you feel like that's the more disrespectful move?
Starting point is 01:15:15 Absolutely. Yeah, you gave it up. Yeah, that's the more disrespectful thing that you let Anthony Randolph wear. Shit, what pick was Anthony Randolph? He was lottery. Yeah, he was lottery, man. That's disrespectful to give it to, he was a second rounder. But still, after Melo just left though.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Yeah. It was 2012, 2013 you said, that Anthony Randolph had it? 13, 14, I believe. So that's shit. So he left in 2010. He left in 2010. Who, Melo? Melo left Durham in 2010.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Yeah, because I played in my rookie year. Yeah, 12, I'm gonna say, because I played in my rookie year. Yeah, 12. I'm going to say because I played in my rookie year twice. And then they said, here you go. No, Mello was gone already. I left Denver in 2011, so he was already gone. My last year was 2011. He was gone.
Starting point is 01:15:56 He was in New York already. It was 2010. Yeah, because when I was in Orlando, that's... It was 2010. Yeah. They was probably salty about that Mello. Yeah, they traded it. Yeah, I was hot. They said... So he played with the Nuggets through 2011. Well, that was it was 2010. Yeah, they probably saw to you about them. Yeah, I was hot
Starting point is 01:16:05 They said we play with the Nuggets through 2011. Oh three. Well, that was the year then that was my so they Came to my last year damn Adam came my last year. Well, yeah, right what in February I can see them doing You right because yeah, it was the last year to that. Yeah, because I just knew that I didn't Google because he had he would have had three he would had three all-stars there, but because it was after February he gets his fourth when I said So basically two years now Anthony ran off lottery picked up here you guys so that's that's who he should probably be mad at that Point now the numbers did but but Nicola's got more notoriety in it. Yeah. So that's the thing. That's what fucked it up because it gave.
Starting point is 01:16:48 I think the hurt part is the first person to wear cool. You know, whoever wear it cool. Like when Jokic got it the first year, cool. He ain't going to be around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Back-to-back MVP. Yeah, yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Yeah, yeah. That shit stank. Damn. Ah, shit. Like, oh, man. That shit stank, man. Like, ah! Shit! Like, ah, man, I can get my jersey then. I don't want y'all to think it's mellow, but how hard is it when you see a 15 jersey
Starting point is 01:17:13 on the streets or in the airport and you might think it's yours and you see the back of the same shirt? Yeah, I know that. I mean, that's what I'm saying. It kind of like... It's a different jersey now. Yeah, it's a different...
Starting point is 01:17:21 That's what I'm saying. It's like the MVP, you sit there like, eh, he ain't really do... he ain't really got the resume yet. Back to back, you're like, fuck. Championship, goddammit. Yes. All right, Knicks, Knicks, Knicks. What you going to do now?
Starting point is 01:17:33 That seven, you know that seven, right? Don't get that seven away. I mean, I think they should retire at number seven with the Knicks. I mean, that's... Whoever the icons are on your organizations man Like get them jerk like obviously with the mellow thing that should let you know get rid of them goddamn jerseys and then retire them Because you don't know what the fuck is coming. You don't know who you gonna pick this year That's gonna change history and you sitting there for number seven come in right now and he number one P
Starting point is 01:18:03 He won number seven coming in right now, and he's number one pick, he won number seven, and then boom, rookie of the year, MVP, MVP, now Melo's sitting there like, all right, here we go again. Here we go, this is what we're doing. Do you think they should retire number zero? With the Wizards? Hmm, I don't know. I got to look through, I got to look. You said your icon, so you said your icon.
Starting point is 01:18:25 I got to look at. I got to look. You said your icon. I got to know what I'm saying. You said your icon. I got to look at the people who's retired to see where my shit measures up to. I got to be fair. 28, 29 points a game? Yeah, but I got to see who. It got to make sense. My shit retired on the Princeton mound. Cincinnati. Hey.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Man, you can fight that, bro. Signature shoe. And foe. Well, we talked about the Bucks a little bit. Let's talk about them a little bit more with some hibachi time. All right, so while the Packers were smoking on the Cowboys in Dallas,
Starting point is 01:19:01 the Bucks were holding it down back in Wisconsin. And on Sunday, it was Dame time. No timeouts left for the Bucks were holding it down back in Wisconsin and on Sunday it was Dame time 143 142 and overtime is wild though it's a wild time and they did the the Dame time salute the Lillard dropped 29 points to go along with eight dimes, four rebounds, and a win. Bucs have won three straight games, including a 30-point blowout over the Celtics. But the Celtics were on the second night of a back-to-back, and it just went to OT with the Wolves. That just needs to be pointed out.
Starting point is 01:19:35 But looking at this Bucs squad, does it feel like the Bucs are finally in rhythm? Mr. B, we'll start with you. You're our resident Bucs expert. I wouldn't say in rhythm. It's been a good three games that they won after everybody was talking. But I wouldn't say it's like they caught a rhythm yet. So we just have to see these next five games. It's like a baseball schedule for them.
Starting point is 01:19:53 So we'll see if they can get these wins. I think they got Cleveland two, three times and Detroit twice. So it's like Cleveland, Detroit twice, Cleveland, Detroit. Oh, yeah. Easy win. I mean, it's more mental than anything playing the same teams like that. But that was great. That was great. They needed that. Kenny, what are you seeing from this Bucs squad right now? As long as it takes some time. Chris Middleton's health is key, I think, for them to be anything.
Starting point is 01:20:25 They need him to play at a high clip. Bench guys are going to be who they are. But, no, it isn't. Good wins versus decent teams, but it's still January. Let's put it in perspective. It's still January. You want to be playing well now and get better moving forward. So health is the key for them, I think.
Starting point is 01:20:46 Yeah. Yep. Yeah. You mentioned Middleton. Let's talk about Dame a little bit. We know what Giannis is going to do. He's going to deliver. How much more does Dame need to elevate his game, Gus,
Starting point is 01:20:56 as we get closer now to this postseason? He's doing exactly what he came there for, right? I think everyone's been paying attention to the wrong stats. When someone wants something to look bad, they'll point out the stats that makes it look bad. Like they were fourth in defense last year, they're 20-something in defense this year, and then you blame Dane.
Starting point is 01:21:18 But they don't want to tell you that the offense is a lot better than it was last year. So they were scoring 116 last year giving up 113 They're giving up 119, but they're scoring 124 right so they're plus three not a plus five. So with this move they're plus two overall So there are actually overall better team this year. Okay, right it's based on that net Yes, and, you know, when you're talking about...
Starting point is 01:21:45 Just made me queasy. You know what I mean? But I'm looking at it, but that's how I look at it, right? It's like, so plus two overall. But they're plus two overall, right? You know, so they're plus two better than they were last year.
Starting point is 01:21:59 And then Dame wasn't there for regular season. This is not where the problem... The problem was in the playoffs, you know, when Giannis was out you have drew and drew averaged 1.8 ISO points a game when you needed him to step up right that I mean 1.8. That's not even a full two points And I'm gonna lay up. That's you know what I mean, so you know when you're talking about in the playoffs I saw basketball is very important when everybody knows what the fuck you're doing. Point eight is rough.
Starting point is 01:22:29 Point eight is nothing. I know, shit. Point eight, shit, that means you're just getting fouled the whole time. Or you might go in, toss that shit up. You know, so, you know, that's where Dame is going to excel, where, you know, when you need shots and you need those big moments, and that's where Bucks is really going to, you know, thrive. It's that playoff atmosphere. They also got a new coach. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, Dame is new, so I think
Starting point is 01:22:54 their biggest test is going to be the playoffs. Like, that first round. Like, towards that end of the year type, like when it's time to get those wins and try to see if they want the first spot or the second or third. But, I mean, new coach, new players. You know, you finally got a star point guard. You know, Dame Lillard's probably the best point guard Milwaukee has ever had in history. Besides Oscar Robinson. Besides Oscar Robinson.
Starting point is 01:23:19 Besides Oscar Robinson. My bad. Yes, of course. Brandon Young, guys. You know, that you're alive. Cincinnati Bearcat. I mean, it's exciting. I mean, it's exciting.
Starting point is 01:23:32 We know that. We can't be disrespectful in any way, shape, or form to anybody who has any connection to the University of Cincinnati. You're going to let us know. Do they need to win it? Do they have to win it this year or the next two years? If they don't win it the next two years or this year, what happens? I mean, you break the team up.
Starting point is 01:23:49 I mean, because they're going to be on this. I mean, he's already on the back end of his career, but he'll be winding down. Giannis will be getting older, too. Lopez will be done. Middleton will be done. So it's these two years. I mean, these three. These next three years is very important for them. To win a chip yeah I don't think they're trying to
Starting point is 01:24:07 win three and they can get one out of the next three you're fine yeah yeah I feel like a lot of times people it's like she's got a window one it is like so I'm a championship window when I chip before so if they don't is it is it failure with all I'm just asking. Because of what you bought it, Mill, for. Yeah, you bought it, yeah. You bought it to win. You didn't beat them just to say, yeah, should we trade it for Damian Lillard?
Starting point is 01:24:31 But you're talking about failure. I mean, Mill is obviously still dealing with issues. This shit, next shit, whatever it is. I feel like it's failure if the roster's at full strength and they don't produce. Right, right. Certain situations start to happen. Yeah, it was a failure of a time, but it's like Giannis being hurt last year. Like, yeah, they got smacked in the first round,
Starting point is 01:24:48 but we have to put it with the caveat that if Giannis is 100%. Yeah. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. How long do you get the coach? Probably. Not a fucking chance. Okay, you know, not a chance.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I mean, right now they're second. I mean, it all... I'll give him all three years unless you really are on that third year and you don't think he can do it and you have to bring somebody in for that run, then yeah. But other than that, it seems like he's fine. But I mean, if we can win the next three years, I'm fine. I think that's the same thing with how the Lakers were.
Starting point is 01:25:21 When we got AD, you give me a championship for the next three or four years, we're good. So it's about maybe a three or four year window for a bunch of teams. Most teams, you're not going to... I mean, the years of back to back to back, that shit is... The way the game is... The way the owners now are investing in is like these four year plans. So Suns, right, we got three or four years Yeah, and I think that's how everyone's approaching it. You know we're not trying to win three. We just Denver got theirs and I'll be trying to spoil somebody else from getting one
Starting point is 01:25:54 But we can get to within this right this mm-hmm to this or five-year stretch And only the only people who have longevity right now is probably Boston. Okay. Boston probably has the biggest window out of everybody. So Boston probably got, what, three, four, five more years? Shit, five, five, five, six. Wow. If they win one or two in the next five or six years,
Starting point is 01:26:20 I'm satisfied with Tatum. You talked about the Lakers, though, and obviously this LeBron AD experiment has only yielded one championship. You feel like Lakers fans should be satisfied with how it's gone in the LeBron AD era? Fuck yeah. Or should they want it more?
Starting point is 01:26:36 No, I know as Laker fans we want more, but reality is reality, right? We're happy we got one. Unfortunately, it was the bubble one. Why is that unfortunate? Unless we make a trade that actually brings in
Starting point is 01:26:52 someone who can take on that responsibility. We thought Russ, but no one has seen the clash coming between how he plays and how LeBron plays. I mean, if they would have landed Kyrie, that probably could have opened up a window. But there's really no window right now. We just like Cowboy fans.
Starting point is 01:27:16 How much do you think the Lakers? You know what I mean? It's more like we're just Cowboy fans at this point, just saying shit. Championship in the 2020s. Championship in these 2020s. Championship in these 2020s. Like right now, Clippers window is, Clippers window, as long as you got Kawhi, you know, James. Clippers window is two years. It depends.
Starting point is 01:27:34 It depends on, you know. Clippers window is two years. What do they do with James this summer? That's what I'm saying. They got to do it this year or next year. With this team? If they make it to at least the Western Conference Finals this year, they bring him back.
Starting point is 01:27:49 At a discount, but they bring him back. So if they don't go that far, you don't think... Ain't a chance. For what? For what? I'm just being honest. For what? Hey, if he don't bring him back, I know where he going to be.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Where? Laker. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm just saying. Laker. If you think about it, right? If they don't make a deep playoff run, then the experiment was a failure. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:28:13 But fully healthy. They all have to be there and playing. At close to as healthy as possible if they can't get to the Western Conference. Western Conference Finals with the amount of talent that they have under one roof. If they don't make it to at least the Western Conference Finals. Western Conference Finals, with the amount of talent that they have under one roof, if they don't make it to at least the Western Conference Finals, they'll make it competitive in the Western Conference Finals.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Okay. And or a Finals appearance. One of them, like, don't go to the Western Conference Finals and get swept or no shit like that. That don't count. That don't count. I mean, it happens sometimes. It happens to the best of us.
Starting point is 01:28:41 No, no, no. You just showed up for four games. You know, sometimes your aging star player has a janky foot. Sometimes the other team is just better. You know. Only way. I mean. Or they got a more dominant player.
Starting point is 01:28:53 I can tell you this. If the analysts are predicting a Clipper-Boston final. Boston, that's, I don't know. You think the Clippers give the Celtics some problems? Fuck yeah. They got talent. Because you have Kawhi to play defense. He going to guard Tatum.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Paul George. Then you have Brown and Paul George and yeah. Yeah, because Brown ain't consistent because Brown can't dribble like that. So you can, you know what I mean? And when he's not getting shots, he's trying to make moves and it's just, it ain't like that. He don't got a thing on the swivel. James and... And then you have James and then you...
Starting point is 01:29:47 All you need is Russ to have one good game out of the series when everybody else is playing back. That's going to be... And that happens. We got the Clips at seven. Clippers at seven. I'm Clippers at six. Oh, if that
Starting point is 01:30:04 happens. Would you go to the Clippers at six. Ooh. Oh, if that happens. Yeah, yeah. Would you go to the parade? Would you go to the Clippers parade? Fuck no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Not because it's the Clipper parade, right? It's because they still owe us a Laker parade.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Right? So they still owe us a parade, so no. Should the Lakers do the parade? Yeah, do this. No, no, no. The Clippers going to have it on Saturday. They got to have the parade in England. They do this shit like Santa Barbara somewhere.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Damn. You can't just have a fucking parade. Y'all do know y'all four years removed, right? Because, you know, I'm just saying. Thank you. Y'all do know y'all are four years removed. Thank you. Four years just saying. Thank you. Y'all do know y'all are four years.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Thank you. Four years. Like if Clippers win, we should get one. Combine them. Stop. Why y'all trying to piggyback on their success? It's not there anyway. Why y'all trying to get it?
Starting point is 01:30:54 It's like both of us. Why they can't live? It's like both of us. Why they can't live? We feel like Jerry Cross right now. You just going to. Why they can't live? We done built this.
Starting point is 01:31:02 We built this city. Y'all just going to disrespect us. Why they can't live? You're not rocking with the combo parade? The combo parade. To unify all of Los Angeles. Bloods and Crips again. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just have both buses. Just have both buses.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Just have both buses. One side is Lakers, one side is Clippers, baby. Shit. So, got to hit on something real quick. Back to Dame's game winner. Giannis may be the better hooper, but the Nass is becoming a legend in his own right. So during Dame's game winning shot, you can see him in the background.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Camera's caught. The Nass on the Bucks bench doing the pose. I just want to know, I ask you guys, is the Nass the most unintentionally funny dude in the league right now? Did you see that blooper highlight they done made of him? When he got the flop or what? No just they made like- Overall.
Starting point is 01:31:48 They made a five minute clip of just him missing and doing this shit. It was funny man, like he's funny. The dude is- the other day he played like three minutes, he had four fouls. Yeah. Like yo, he- yo. But that's somebody you wanna put in. Put in the game. Playoffs, yo go f- right here. What's the funny thing, his fouls ain't like he. Put in the game. Playoffs, yo, go right here. His fouls
Starting point is 01:32:06 ain't like he's going out the hat. He just moves so hard. He's so wild. He's so geeked out, man. He's just geeked. They can't allow him to practice. Fuck you. You hurt somebody. No, no, just guard your brother. Fuck that. Guard your brother. That's why
Starting point is 01:32:21 Giannis plays so hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Playing against this motherfucker every day. Playing against this motherfucker all day. I know he gets bashed a lot, but I got to give Thanasis his love because, I mean- If I'm going to have a number 15 player, if I'm going to pay for number 15- Yeah. Definitely him. That's who it's going to be. I'm sure.
Starting point is 01:32:39 He going to come in early. You know he going to come to practice every day, hyped every day because he's happy. He just happy. He's like one of them, I know I don't supposed to be here, so I ain't even going to give them no reason to fire me.
Starting point is 01:32:51 He probably, hey, come on in. Come on in. Everybody greeting everybody. Hey, this is my brother, Yonase. Yonase, say hi. Right? Hey, Yonase, take a picture. Take a picture.
Starting point is 01:33:00 Sign this, Yonase. Yonase, sign this, Yonase. I got this bag of shit, Yonase. I need, I need. He probably the one that carry everybody bag to the motherf Giannis. I need it. He's probably the one that carries everybody's bag to the motherfucking rules. Knock, knock your bag here. He's probably that dude. Giannis told him, go get my ball.
Starting point is 01:33:14 He went at it. Yeah, he's easy. Stay in shape. Always reliable. Yeah, like that's the dude you want. No matter how you feeling in the locker room, no matter how you feel in the game, when you look at him, he's always in high spirit. Yeah, yeah. And I'm going to pay 15 for that.
Starting point is 01:33:31 So how much does every team need just somebody like that? Like I said, from the outside perspective, the fans may bash the Nassus. You can say whatever you want. He's on the team because of Giannis. That means Giannis is just good enough. You can do what you want when you're popping. But how much does a team need a guy with high energy,
Starting point is 01:33:44 especially just throughout the course of a season stuff not going well That's always keeping a positive mood always keeping everybody upbeat the shit overrated. It's overrated depending on You need that on the team, but it's over yeah bad teams needed more than yeah But yeah, cuz we winning all that. Calm your ass down. Yeah, yeah. Like, all that. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 01:34:07 All right. Bad teams need somebody like him because when you're in situations where, right... The pisses, you lose 28 fucking straight games. With his spirit, they wouldn't have lost 28 because he would have been in practice the next day pretending that that shit didn't happen. He'd be on the bus. Come on.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Yeah, yeah. He's... Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I'm with it. bus. Come on. Yeah, yeah, he's. Yeah, yeah, he, yeah, absolutely. I'm with you. Yeah, yeah. Somebody like him. I mean, it depends. It depends, though.
Starting point is 01:34:30 Like, I mean, because the season could get boring. Like, the season could get, like, five or seven games. It's like, you know, he could just come here and bring some. You know, when you're winning so much, it could get boring sometimes. But you're not as. I ain't never experienced that, Brandon. Well, I mean, well, some people, I mean, some people I mean some people do like it gets like, you know Five or seven nights and you're traveling and you gotta get going he could just come in with some energy
Starting point is 01:34:51 Yeah, we're on good teams like Milwaukee definitely needs that though like Milwaukee because they have a they have times where they get into a mode where it's just like They're kind of just like blah, but they don't care. So girl you saying that the Pistons would be a four-win team with the Nassus? 33% better with the Nassus. They'd probably get like six. They'd probably have, you know. So who's a guy you played with or against who always looked or seemed funny
Starting point is 01:35:18 when you watched or played them? Like just funny demeanor on the court. Kyle Quinn. Who the hell is that? K.O. My man K. Kyle Quinn What the hell is that? K.o. my man kale from the next Kyle Quinn funniest teammate I ever had and what made him so funny just clowning just
Starting point is 01:35:41 Just everything's like funny on the court off the court. It's like it's like he's serious, but it's like it's funny. Like, he's just a character the whole time. Okay, who's the funniest teammate you played with? Maybe not ha-ha funny, but just. Shit, I don't know. I had a lot of fucking teammates, bro. Like, I had a lot. Like, Popeye Jones? I don't have Popeye Jones.
Starting point is 01:36:04 You played with or against? I had Calvin Booth. Hilarious? Yeah, yeah, because he looked like, we called him Napoleon Dynamite. He just walked around like, gosh. So just how he looked at the rebound, all we just thought was, gosh, gosh. My tots. The fucking fact that he played in the NBA, bro
Starting point is 01:36:33 I can't you know, he was great for us cuz that's he can hit that that mid-range he can stretch the floor So but just watching him run up and down the goof like me Yeah, we thought you make it from the scouting. I was doing the scouting report. It was gosh, y'all We gotta talk a little bit more about the Kings Bucks game, but from the Kings perspective Game wasn't without controversy Mike Brown got ejected He was heated ran on the court Got in the ref's grill.
Starting point is 01:37:06 I think this is a rookie ref, too. Hey, that's a lot of... That's a lot of... He held that. He held that. So he was ejected early in the fourth quarter after a no-call on campaign. Pissed him off.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Mike Brown said Payne appeared to hook De'Aaron Fox on a pick-and-roll. After the game, though, Brown sounded off on the officiating and even pulled out the receipts. Let me see that, man. I just want to show you guys why I got kicked out of the game. Right here, third quarter with 128 left.
Starting point is 01:37:39 And right here, you can watch. Go back and watch. Fox barely puts his hand on Dame's hip. Okay? Incidental contact. He didn't push him or anything. He barely puts his hand on there. And they give him three free throws.
Starting point is 01:37:53 Now, watch this. Right here. Fox comes off a pick and roll. Campaign hooks him. Hooks his arm. Look at Fox's arm when he spins off of this. Hooks his arm. He almost falls.
Starting point is 01:38:07 No incidental contact. He hooks his arm and almost falls. And there's no foul. And so to me, as a coach, I'm okay with, look again, boom, he almost falls. And that's at the fourth quarter at the 932 mark. I'm okay as a coach because referees are human. And they don't make mistakes. But you just hope, A, there's some sort of consistency.
Starting point is 01:38:33 B, there's some sort of communication between the refs. And the refs tonight, they were great. They communicated with me all night. But in terms of the consistency, you guys saw it right here. Dane coming off the pick and roll. And Foxy getting hooked and almost falling coming off the pick and roll. And then on top of that, if you get communication and you get some form of consistency in the game, okay, then you can live with some things. So you feel what Mike Brown's saying coming to the defense of his star player?
Starting point is 01:39:05 In theory, yes, right? In theory, yes, because it is a foul. Hand while he's shooting, that's a foul. So that's three shots. Can you go back to the shot? Not the shot, go back to the shot? The shot. Not the shot. Go back to the close-up on the hook. We got our...
Starting point is 01:39:33 You can just fast-forward through this. You know, we are a black-owned show, almost on Tubi. We're basically on YouTubi. All right, see, the ref can see that. No, no, keep going past that. There's three of them off. We know that's a foul
Starting point is 01:39:46 It's three of the muffins out there. Yeah, no, no, but watch now see everything. Yeah, here go not this one the The second one right no right right here right keep going Right what you what what Paul's the one that's over here to the left Right? What represents... Pause. The one that's over here to the left? The motherfucker that's over to the left? Why can't he see that? Because he was low.
Starting point is 01:40:13 If you look at the video, he would have been lower than both these two guys. So he's too low then? Huh? He was too low, yeah. And then the ref that's on the right side or on Lopez's side, he wouldn't be able to see this hook
Starting point is 01:40:25 by Payne. Because that's what he's going to see. He's going to see De'Aaron Fox now opened up. So he wouldn't be to see that. And then the ref that's on the side where they are, he was too low to actually see this play. Because that's his call. Because that's his call. Unless he wore what he's supposed to be and just didn't call the shit. Yeah So, I mean it can get missed because that the angle that is bad that's bad. Yeah, that's bad That's bad. You know, I mean, it's a foul take the ball out
Starting point is 01:40:55 I mean true the fact that yeah, they call us but are you wrong with Mike Brown coming to the defense? He's one of his star players If I'm like brown, I'm not getting kicked out for that. Not that play if that's play you got kicked out for yeah Yeah, they were down 10, bro, I'm not getting kicked out for that. Not that play. If that's the play he got kicked out for. Yeah. Yeah, they were down 10 too.
Starting point is 01:41:07 Yeah, I'm not getting kicked out for that. Yeah, not for that play. He was feeling some type of way and he was in the water. That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:41:13 because he can see it. Like, I can, he's looking dead at the play. Like, oh, I can see this, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:41:17 But it's this ref on this side. He was just too low. Oh, so he can't see that hook. Like, it's all positioning. I mean, I don't think Payne
Starting point is 01:41:25 was smart enough to understand the ref wasn't there. But even... He was trying to grab him. But he was trying to grab him. You know, he's spinning on me. I'm going to grab him.
Starting point is 01:41:32 He called a foul. Yeah, that's exactly what that was. Take the ball out of bounds. Y'all didn't blow that. Oh, shit, got away with it. And you think that De'Aaron Fox on Dame, that was a foul? Yeah, that's a foul.
Starting point is 01:41:39 That's a foul. You're going to shoot motion. So he's tripping. So Brown is tripping for saying that they shouldn't have called that. It was incidental. He said it was minimum contact.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Minimum contact. But you guys know it's still contact. That's going to because you can't tell you can't tell as a referee if he's holding or pushing. That's
Starting point is 01:41:58 right. You see the guy's in motion. You can't have your hand on a guy that's already up because anything any little thing, you know Your job is when he goes put your hand off Okay, and that's been in the NBA since
Starting point is 01:42:14 Yeah, for sure for sure so we've got One game already done on MLK day we got to talk about we were watching it before the show started So in B dropped 41 points. Sixers win. Over the Rockets. He ain't in that category. He ain't in that category. He ain't in that category.
Starting point is 01:42:36 41 points. Nine more points. 41 points, 31 minutes. He was 12 for 21 from the field. 16 for 17 from the free throw line. 10 rebounds, three assists. KJ Martin, gonna play six minutes.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Fucking six minutes. Gonna play six minutes. Then you get, how many shots did he get up though? Who, KJ? Yeah. One. He gonna have to, I mean, he'll have to call that dude. I mean, look, six minutes, six shots. You know the rules.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Fucked up with us? It's good when you gotta look who you're on the floor with. Say shots. Offense, rebound, pull it up. Oh, he going. And say, my bad. Hey, nah. My bad, my bad, my bad.
Starting point is 01:43:12 That's the message I give them, but you know, it's just. So it's going to be? Well, today the 15th, so they can start moving some of these mofos. Contracts are absolutely eligible to start being moved. We on the clock, goddammit. We should see some trades cracking in the next few weeks as the trade deadline.
Starting point is 01:43:27 Ship that shit. Time to ship that shit. Yeah. Get your ass on up out of here. Ship that card, UPS, all that shit. Get the heavy duty bag ready. All them contracts that were signed over the summer. Get your ass up out of here.
Starting point is 01:43:39 They can be moved today. Ooh, hey. I might put my Laker jacket on. I might put the Laker. Y'all gave me a Laker jacket. Y'all gave me a Laker jacket for my birthday. Ooh, hey. I might put my Laker jacket on. I might put the Laker. Y'all gave me a Laker jacket. Y'all gave me a Laker jacket for my birthday. So, Lawler, so who they need to get for you to put your Laker jacket on? Huh?
Starting point is 01:43:52 So who they need to get for you to put your Laker jacket on? Anybody who going to just shoot the ball. Exactly. Like, that's my thing. Shoot the ball. Just shoot it. Like, we don't need dead weight. You don't need to be dead weight.
Starting point is 01:44:09 If Vando and Cam, I know he's out right now. That means we get to put somebody who's going to put the ball up. Vando, if he went out there, you're playing 23 minutes, and he took 10 shots, I'd be happy with that. I'd be happy with that because as a player and I don't think some as a player who scores the worst thing I want on the court with me is someone who do not shoot the ball because that means I'm playing against your guy also. I need your guy to respect you. So if I pass it to you, shoot that shit. So, you know, you score or not score. At least he knows you're there versus he has no idea that you're in a corner. He doesn't at least he knows you're there. Versus he has no idea that you're in the corner.
Starting point is 01:44:46 He doesn't care because he knows you're not going to shoot it. That makes it harder for me. So the job becomes harder. So anybody that is going to shoot it. Yeah, I just need you to just put that bitch up. Like, cut, slash. Like, you're not a very great shooter. You know, you don't feel comfortable.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Slash. Get in there. Like, do something. Back door that motherfucker. Let him know you there He turned his head back door Hey, this is going When you in the corner and they doing pick and roll
Starting point is 01:45:18 Say fuck your pick and roll your man sitting right there you go pick and roll cuz when when I come off the pick and Roll your man ain't there cuz he's just sitting there playing defense at the block run up there go pick do that shit You don't need to call that play can you mind don't want to come out of the paint Hi, come on. Get the I get a clean shot by myself So do you need right you need these other guys to shoot it, but you need them to make some of them Do I mean I need them to play fucking basketball, okay? Okay, I mean basketball if you know your man's not guarding you the best thing you can do is become a backdoor or a pit guy set a fucking flare flare hit yeah you're in the corner you're not that good at shooting flare the motherfucker slip come back out the same way you just the same
Starting point is 01:46:02 corner you just in here come back the same fucking way that you created a problem That just with that simple shit because your man got a react. He got a safe So you got to call a flare that he got a we got a honor the flare He got a reward of a fucking slip. So now you create a problem water bottom action is going on That's just a simple basket I don't know who be... If you just sit in the corner, right? If you sit in there and I go set a pick on his guy
Starting point is 01:46:30 and my guy flares, who has that? Who has that? Who has this flare? Because if you try it, hey! If you don't respect that, that's a wide open shot. Somebody, especially if you're playing a motherfucker like Braun or somebody who
Starting point is 01:46:45 can pass that bitch. Yeah. I'm going to set D-Law and Reeves. I'm going to set a pick on that guy every single time. Flair. Wide open. Flair. Wide open. Yeah. It's just those little things. And I would like, yeah, okay. But just to sit in the corner, just to sit
Starting point is 01:47:01 in the corner, nah, that's not how we like be, be like put your ass in the dunker to sit in the corner. Nah, that's not how we Like BB like your ass in the dunker man. Yeah beat like beat like be usable like be usable as a player Like I play you. Alright, listen, I need you to set ten picks Mama take you out and put you in for eight minutes set ten picks Motherfucker try to get three offensive rebounds. They don't communicate shit. Do that. If you do that, shit, back door. Anytime somebody do this, boom. I need to see you on the other side of the court. Let that motherfucker be like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:47:32 I need your man doing this too. Constantly. Not this. That motherfucker ain't looking. 23 seconds, this motherfucker don't know where you are. He's just right here, just. I know where you're going to be. Like, nobody pass you the ball, man.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Do something. That's it. So if he starts taking 10, 11 shots, cool, we good. Sounds good. Other than that, you need somebody. Yeah. Let's keep this shit moving. So after missing the last 16 games, serving in suspension and ramping up,
Starting point is 01:48:05 Draymond Green is back in the Warriors lineup today against the depleted Grizzlies squad on MLK Day. Ooh-wee! You excited? Yeah. With this MLK's dream? No, man. To see a black man in America being able to choke out whoever he wants.
Starting point is 01:48:23 And come back to work oh they play the Warriors tonight Steph might have 50 tonight he might have a 50 let me text him Gil said Gil said no he gonna tell you
Starting point is 01:48:36 you don't deserve it he gonna need 50 to get right there with us join the club join the club the Gilbert Arenas MLK 50 point club so should Draymond display some civil disobedience tonight
Starting point is 01:48:47 and get a tech to honor MLK? It's his dream, Gil. It's his dream. You got to be hostile today. You got to be hostile. Nah, man. Earth game back? That man going to be civil, man.
Starting point is 01:48:58 In Memphis? He going to be civil, man. He just going to be civil? Hopefully he saw the Ducks at the Peacock. He going to be civil. So he saw the ducks at the peacock. He's going to be civil. So we work for Underdog Fantasy, so we're going to do a special higher or lower in honor of Draymond's return on MLK Day.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Draymond at.5 ejections for the rest of the season, higher or lower? Ejections? .5. Will he get ejected one more time, or will he roll out to finish the rest of the season? He's going to get ejected. He's going to get suspended. He's going to get ejected one more time or will he roll out to finish the rest of the season? He's going to get ejected. He's going to get suspended.
Starting point is 01:49:28 He's going to get ejected. I'm going higher than that. Going higher? Yeah, higher. Okay. They need to put a little spicy logo on it. Only because you're not factoring. There's technicals that aren't aggressive technicals.
Starting point is 01:49:43 They're not flagrant. Yeah, they're not hanging on the rim too long, shit like that aren't aggressive technicals. They're not flagrant. Yeah, they're not, you know, hanging on the rim too long, shit like that. You know, that's a technical. Or telling you you suck. Yeah. Or clapping, looking at somebody too long. You don't know what the fuck's going on.
Starting point is 01:49:55 So we think higher on that point. I take a higher. Somebody doing something to Stefan, him choking the motherfucker. That would be a possibility. He don't need to choke, just flick him a little bit. If he thump the nigga No, but it'd be something all you need to do next is grab a motherfucker Jersey
Starting point is 01:50:17 Looks like oh major pain Till you know, but I think it'd be just something it'll just be one of those where He got one delay. He got one for something else and then he says something just So they go and then a fucked up thing about it. You got some of these refs That's extra sensitive and they just waiting. I want to get him. Oh, I want to be look at me wrong I'm gonna get him. Mm-hmm. I need some civil disobedience, Dre. Come on. For entertainment value. You want to see black men lose money?
Starting point is 01:50:49 No. You don't have to be in a black community to do shit like that. Close enough. You want to see black men lose money out there? No, you right, Gil. I want him to keep it in his pocket. And buy some new Gils Arena merchandise.
Starting point is 01:51:00 We got hostile territory sweatshirts. We got the Gils Arena sweats What's your available? Mmm Saturday Saturday They told me I can't say first annual gills arena shootout cuz that's not technically correct, but I told them I don't give a fuck Is it what is it? Oh, you're first time. It's the first ever or whatever, but nonetheless We're gonna do this every year. So this is our first annual installment of the gills arena shootout. So they have that wolf wolf For the future and we will have gills arena merchandise available food trucks heavy security tough tough crowd arena of you
Starting point is 01:51:34 in yeah mr. bees arena present mr. bees baby come on the kids yes that means we Come on kids When we leave here you go right to the gym I Like my victims weld trained That's why I keep egging y'all on I want y'all to be at y'all peak hmm I like I like I like that I like that chase I like to chase down. Hmm I don't like when you chasing it and then the motherfucker quit. Like, I know I need here. Go ahead, start it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:09 So I need you to leave here, go right to the gym. I'll rebound for you too. I need the rack. You need a rack? I got a rack back upstairs. I know. I can go right upstairs and shoot. All I got to do is go upstairs and shoot.
Starting point is 01:52:20 That's all you got to do. I don't know what's wrong. You know, McCann's, you just go right up there and shoot. The gym is's all you got to do. I don't know what's wrong You know my cancer you just go right up there and shoot the gym was always open always open Got the shooting machine everything. That's true He's just ready to complain I'd be seeing I'd be catching one as likely I'd be catching one as live I hear You do is life Got the camera wrong. So it look like he left-handed right? It was reversed, right?
Starting point is 01:52:46 Yeah, he got it reversed. I was going to make sure I wasn't doing it. And then he'd be throwing a little subliminals. Yeah, you know, I want to tell y'all what's really going on, but I got to wait until after the shootout. Yeah, it was reversed. I thought he was left-handed. Oh, boy, he ready to tell a tale already. What tale is that?
Starting point is 01:53:05 He want to tell that I'm in a gym, and I'm shooting at the gym that we competing at. All this is because we went to slam ball. Is this all because of slam ball? No, no, it's not because we went to slam ball. It's because he didn't fare up in slam. Did he fare up? No, I mean the slam ball rims were terrible. Terrible, but he was practicing way before.
Starting point is 01:53:26 I looked at it. I didn't even get 10 shots. I didn't even get 10 attempts. He took 12 shots. He didn't even give me 10 attempts. Give me my 10 attempts. I mean, I still lose, but I do have, and I made two. It wasn't 10-1?
Starting point is 01:53:42 No, it was 8-2. That's the actual 8-2. It was about 7 in the morning talking one. No, it was eight two. They was that's the actual I was up at seven in the morning talking about this. It was it was eight two That was the actual for a two because we was only taking ten shots So it was not playing he up in the chat seven a.m. What I say in the chair, but if I go to go to church Y'all got anything else to talk about? Y'all have anything else to talk about, man?
Starting point is 01:54:07 300 messages. 300 messages. Hey, that'd be the worst. You fucking get back on the chat, and it's like 300 deep talking about that. I didn't look at my phone during the game. I looked down. It was 103.
Starting point is 01:54:17 I'm watching a high school basketball game. I looked down. We had 103. Mm-hmm. 103. I asked this boy Gilbert, how many... How many videos how many minutes how many words per minute do you type you a cuz you're in
Starting point is 01:54:30 the wrong profession we doing this not talking are you typing that shit court-court I need to save this finger. That's So and on that note and the funny part is when I'm not on it That's that's what he should be worried about cuz I'm in the gym When I'm not typing that when I whenever I'm typing I just finished So if you want to distract so what then what if he has one the, the work just sending you messages in the group chat to distract you. We don't do that. To keep you going while he's working out. I don't get, I don't get distracted by girls.
Starting point is 01:55:12 Okay. Just asking. For one, he not giving nobody their phone. Yeah. No, no, no. Hey, but look, you going to the gym after this? No. Nope.
Starting point is 01:55:23 I'll be in the gym at 9 o'clock on Saturday. Setting up the merch, and I'm going to take 500 shots before we even play, so I'll be good. See, this is the thing. I don't like men. Lower. You ain't going to shoot it until Saturday. I don't need to. Lower.
Starting point is 01:55:37 Pound for pound. That means I just wake up and go get it. Y'all better listen to me. Lower. If I get there at 9... Yo, the thing started at 1 o'clock right the thing so that one We're not hit on these pick them and Maricola. I guess you're gonna be my own Listen, I'll be there at 1230 on the gills arena YouTube channel me and Kenyan and Cheryl super be broadcasting the game along with the
Starting point is 01:55:58 Legend Tyler I am from the sheet and Tyler show. We also have an MC We will be clowning a pack of you guys up. Round and round. Don't lose, Gil. That's all I'm going to tell you. If I win $100K, what am I going to do? We get the whole $100K? All pennies, though.
Starting point is 01:56:17 I'm telling them to bring the cash. If I win $100K, I'm throwing a party for us. See, now I'm one brand. I'm throwing a party. I'm throwing a party for us. DeMaricola? Forget that. DeMaricola, dude. Renting out nice guys.
Starting point is 01:56:27 There's a couple dudes out there I think going. Get it. Nice guys. I'm still picking lower, but. So let's end the show on the right note. All right, we're all black in America. Them 50 shots in the final rounds, that's going to hurt some of them.
Starting point is 01:56:42 No, it's not, man. It's rep. Bro, all right. Listen, if I win, I'm going to party win one thing I do know Gil well, I ain't gonna expect nobody what that is some There's some dudes that who fucking daily out there. I mean whooping whoop. Not this business every day I ain't gonna spread it. Who we don't know more for the chat. I mean showed up to the show They might not make it out. There's some do that showed up to the shootout. I was going to say, you might not make it out. Some dude that showed up to the shootout. I'm just, yeah. Man, there's people in there that won. I hear you.
Starting point is 01:57:07 That made 15. Okay. 15. They got 15. Atoke was the second highest. Yo, but listen. Atoke. But listen.
Starting point is 01:57:18 The coach. Saturday's going to be a different type of, different type. The lights is on. It's 100,000. It's 100,000. The people that never got 100,000, you think they gonna, they asshole gonna be like, they asshole gonna be like this. That ball gonna be like a brick.
Starting point is 01:57:31 That ball gonna be like a brick. Yeah. Moody hole gonna be, moody hole gonna be. I ain't saying all. It's a lot of, yeah. Some. Some. Some of these dudes who daily,
Starting point is 01:57:40 and them motherfuckers in that gym daily, whether it's on their lunch break, whether it's after work, whether it's something, there's some these motherfuckers who in there not for sure they in there and they get shots up dog and they can shots up all they gotta do is just shoot shots all right go crazy all right yo what I mean they're so what was the numbers at the shootout was the high at the shootout night 23 19 it was a few 20s on from the three from the college three though, right? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, but we got 19 was the highest By house we got me arranged cause it was a 19 and then 17
Starting point is 01:58:15 I mean we got in and then they got three people who got who 15 they got a shoot to see who can get in with 15 yes Unfortunately teen I 15. Well, let's let's end this shot on the in with 15. Yes, unfortunately teen I 15 Let's in the show don't know about 15. Can you know more about 15? Oh Why you think I went to I went there to justice just to just competition I went there just to collect just to show y'all that I'll make this shit to high school He ain't making it. Midrange is going to be his problem.
Starting point is 01:58:49 Yeah, that is. But once I get out of that, it's a wrap. Once I get out of that, it's a wrap. If I win, I'm throwing a party. I better hope I win. Your football is about to start and it's MLK Day. Can we do a live show? I'm just saying. Niggas are haters. They'd rather watch Roger Fidel and them.
Starting point is 01:59:05 But this is MLK Day, so I want us all in on the right note. Come together. We got to show some love to the legend. Everyone remembers Dr. King's famous I Have a Dream speech. So Gil, I'm going to start with you. What's your dream? Huh? What's your dream, Gil?
Starting point is 01:59:19 That all my contestants are fully prepared. I don't want no excuses. that all my contestants are fully prepared. I don't want no excuses. I don't want nobody crying. I want everybody to get as many shots as they possibly can and be there. I want everybody healthy. I want everybody so we can really compete. I don't want to hear about your fucking dog died
Starting point is 01:59:44 and somebody's sick. I don't want to hear about your fucking dog died and somebody's sick I don't want to hear about none of that. I want everybody like I won't scores 2524 23 24 that's the shit. I won't like it because it makes it makes it makes the the tiger come out Okay, aside from the first annual gills arena presented by underdog fantasy. That's my dream. Ken, what's your dream? This damn list. I don't know what to say after that. I don't know either. It's really kind of hard to follow up.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Yeah, you can't take this shit serious, this goddamn boy, man. What's your dream? If you have something serious, great. If not? My dream? Get married. A good dream.
Starting point is 02:00:33 I want my company to blow up, be big. I want a $100 million company. I want to keep growing as Gil's Arena grows. Be a better father. Get all this money and move to Milan, Italy. Get away from all you niggas. I understand. Mi scusi.
Starting point is 02:00:49 Mi scusi. Mi scusi. What was that? So get on it seriously. What's your biggest hope for black people in 2024? Biggest hope for black people in 2020? Oh, I got it. Start focusing on yourselves and not everyone else. No one's here to give us anything.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Just go out there and put your hard work in. It's a good hope. What's your biggest hope for black people? Stop being in competition with one another. Outside this context, right? Yeah, outside, no, like, Justin, like, it goes back to what you... I'm competing with some niggas right now. It goes back to, like, to piggyback on your point a little bit, but celebrate success instead of hating on the next person.
Starting point is 02:01:41 Ain't nothing wrong with trying to strive to be better, but not at the expense of the next black person. We don't talk about just all these different lists and who's the best at this, who's the best at that. Okay. Get out of the slave mentality. Like Gil said, he said one time, Gil said, you know, we're taught as black people to put the money back.
Starting point is 02:02:13 Let's start pushing our money forward. Let's start recognizing the people that surround us. Let's get rid of the dead weight that surround us, too. I think that holds us back a lot, just holding on to what we think is family and friends when it's really not. Start observing what's around you and start being more straight up. Like, you know, we always want to be straight up with each other,
Starting point is 02:02:36 but also let's be straight up when it's time to talk about business and other things too. Okay. So now on a more serious subject. I'm not serious. This is more serious. What's your biggest hope for niggas in 2024?
Starting point is 02:02:51 Oh, I don't deal with niggas. Niggas themselves? I love black people. Will you ignorant niggas please? I can stand niggas. Mm-hmm. I think us just being comfortable in our own skin.
Starting point is 02:03:06 Like, I think we were saying before, like, jealousy and, you know, our biggest hope is just to, you know, support each other. You know? Yeah. I mean, and stop letting the past... Stop letting the past dictate your future.
Starting point is 02:03:23 That's real shit. Like, you know, we all make mistakes, so don't let the past dictate who you could become all facts now let's move on to our last segment of the day mostly fans presented by underdog fantasy if you have not done so already download the app use promo code gill and underdog fantasy will match your first deposit up to 100 download the underdog fantasy app use promo code gill and it will match your first deposit up to $100. Download the Underdog Fantasy app, use promo code GILL, and it will match your first deposit up to $100. So our first question is a, is this a video? This is a video question from Underdog user GILL's Defense Attorney.
Starting point is 02:03:57 It's been a shitload of really bad blowouts this season. Blowouts so bad the game's over by halftime, and it's really been fucking up my pick-ems. Why do y'all think so many teams are getting their tits blown off so bad? Give us the fence attorney you normally hit us with a what's up dickheads? Left out the preamble got straight to it. What's up with all the blowouts this year? It does seem like we've seen the Blazers get smacked by what like 62 62 yes, this is like there's a lot of young teams.
Starting point is 02:04:25 Is that the issue? I mean, that and the offense. I mean, you gotta factor in that with the game being 40 something threes, if a team catches fire and you playing bad, instead of that being a 20 point or 25 to 30-point loss, that's doubled now. Yeah, they scored 11 points in one quarter and 17 in another. You see, but back in the day, you scored 17, the other team only just had 25.
Starting point is 02:05:01 17 on a 55 is, whew, that's a rough night. There's just a lot of bad basketball being played. Yeah. A lot of bad individual. I mean, is that normal or is it? I just go back to what I was saying before, man, just my pride. Individual pride, man. I don't think there's enough of it. It's just my personal
Starting point is 02:05:29 opinion not to take shots at anybody or just in each and every possession there's not enough personal pride in the game for me. It's just, offensive and defensive, it's just I'm going to settle for this jump shot instead of using what I got to some of my best attributes at the game Saturday to shoot this three, fuck that I'm dominant going to the basket and getting fouled, I'm just gonna keep shooting threes. They settle to, they settle to. And then defensively, just not,
Starting point is 02:05:58 you're not gonna stop these guys, they really fucking good. But having pride to make it tough on them. That's all. Make him go to, just be moved. That's all I ask, man. That's the only thing that I. Do you blame, do you think the pride has like,
Starting point is 02:06:15 has died down because of AAU and the high school coaches and where they come, came from now? Like, cause back when you were playing 95, back when we were playing like in 2000, I mean, come on, 95 in high school. I mean, all you went off on was pride. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 02:06:29 So do you think it's like the coaches got soft? Do you think some of, like, the way AAU is shaped up or the way social media is the reason why it's not a lot of pride? I don't think it's a product of it all, brother. I think it starts at home, for one. And then you put them in these programs that fit what you're teaching them at home. And then it translates and where they go to college. And if nowadays, if it don't work out nowadays, they can go to the school next year and then they don't get the playing time. Well, I didn't average 17. Now I'm going to go to school next year. And then I didn't do this.
Starting point is 02:07:00 I'm going to go to the school. I'm a transfer and then now you get to the league if you have so happen to make it Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What have you learned? You ain't learned nothing. You ain't been talking to know no values about It says everybody get a trophy shit. It's everybody's nice. Everybody's good. Everybody deserved to be like no this shit takes work Hard this fucking it's hard to get here. It's hard to play at the top at the highest level. Yeah. Yeah, and if you are there You did Okay, you're talented. Cool, you're athletic. Okay, cool. You're taller than the person that you went to high school with.
Starting point is 02:07:33 Cool. But where is, I just think different, man. Like my son, like Cameron in high school now. Cameron don't start on his team, but Cameron, like, so I go to practice. I'm telling Cameron, dude, if you ain't part of the first 10 on the floor, it need to be an argument. Now, fuck it, I'm on, dog. I got you on.
Starting point is 02:08:01 Now, his coach said, now, fuck what coach said, dude, I got you. Like, let him tell me, Cameron, let him go right now. I'm that competitive in every sense of the word. Like, I'm, no matter what it is, especially with this
Starting point is 02:08:15 that we're talking about here, I just don't see it enough. And I watch high, we watch high school basketball a lot. And I cringe, dog, because some of them same guys that I watch in high school are going to be pros. This is true. Like, some of them guys I watch are going to be pros one day.
Starting point is 02:08:35 And I cringe. And it's been going on since KJ was in high school. I've been a part of this AAU shit watching it. So, to your point, it's a domino effect of it. And then once they get to the highest level, there's no personal pride for each individual guy,
Starting point is 02:08:57 each individual possession of a basketball game. You're not going to stop a guy. You're not going to score every basket he's tripped. You're not going to shut a guy. You're not going to score every basket he's tripped. You're not going to shut a guy down. All these things exist, yes. But let it mean something, each and every possession. And I think it starts way before they get to the NBA. Super teams. Yes. It starts with super teams.
Starting point is 02:09:19 Yeah. Because what ends up happening with a super team is you have all these guys who's trying to delegate responsibility, right? No matter where you ranked, when you start teaming up, you want to take the pressure off of yourself, right, from being great, and that's what you're actually doing.
Starting point is 02:09:39 You're taking the responsibility off yourself. You're taking the hard work off yourself. Instead of you playing One versus your team versus this team right as you got all these Super guys and y'all over here scoring 15 and none of y'all are really running revving up your energy You're not you're not being doubled. You're not there's no accountability. There's no demanding no ball You're settling for what it is. So if you're the number one player and your team came down and missed you six times in a row and this guy is hot, you're okay with that. You're okay with that.
Starting point is 02:10:16 You're okay. You're settling. This guy is this. And what ends up happening when you get to the next level and you got dogs on your team, dudes who are really about that scoring life, you become a role player. 90% of the guys today that are in that top spot are going to be role players. Y'all are teaming up to be perfect role players. Like some of these schools, some of these schools that has all these number one and number two in the country y'all are producing role players because if your team is that good that means you
Starting point is 02:10:50 have a bunch of talent on it and none of those none of those guys are scoring 50 60 they got 16 shots made in a row that builds and other characters your team down 10 and you as an individual got to play defense, got to stop it, got to rebound, got to score. You got to do everything to become a star. Y'all are not stars. Y'all are just one, y'all are
Starting point is 02:11:16 another player on this team and that's what's hurt. So when you go to the next level and your man scores on you, you come down like, oh, okay. Y'all don't have the hunger. It's not there no more. No. Y'all over here scoring 70, 80 pointings in you goes like y'all don't have the hunger It's not there no more No, you still over here scoring 70 80 pointings in the quarter cuz y'all just coming out you shoot I should use you gosh you know y'all are not trying to defend nobody cuz it's just about Who's gonna outscore each other because our team's been so good all these years
Starting point is 02:11:39 That becomes a problem I want to do that's that's in there by himself Sitting there fighting through war. I can put a team around him. Give me AI. I can put a team around him. They'll figure it out. You give me a whole bunch of players, and that's sitting there good.
Starting point is 02:11:53 Now I got to try to figure out who actually has the dog tendency, because right now we don't see it, because y'all all are just going half-assed. Yeah. I want to see a motherfucker shoot 17 straight shots. I'm sure. 17 straight shots.
Starting point is 02:12:07 He made six, you know what I mean? Nine in a row, 10 in a row, 12 in a row. Yeah. These motherfuckers, two baskets here, now it's your turn. Your turn. Yeah, and he'll see the ball. Yeah, and it goes to this, yeah. But it goes back to the coaching and all that shit as well, right?
Starting point is 02:12:23 Fuck coaching the talent that I have. I got this system, we finna run it. Fuck your system. Fuck your system. Coach these kids, man. Coach the 15 whatever guys you got, coach them. Okay, these players, they work then, this group can't run them because of who I have.
Starting point is 02:12:46 I have certain tendencies. We got a bunch of selfish guys on this team. We can't run that. Or we got a few guys that I know I need to control a little more than either guy or vice versa or whatever the case may be. Coach the team you have instead of coaching your fucking, like your system is, it's not two passes. I need 16 passes before we shoot like they still do that the five pass drill five yeah give me five passes five passes man if his hands down listen shoot it
Starting point is 02:13:16 that's the funny thing is is these coaches don't understand this too like if you're trying to get your kids to the next level, look at the next level. You over here talking about 16 passes and doing all this in the next level. It's 2-3, and you got your player that's sitting there not being aggressive. Sit your ass down, son. Well, we need to pass the ball around.
Starting point is 02:13:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sit your ass down. You're going to sit right there on the bench. We trying to get this motherfucker up. Right? If you have a pick and roll, same thing with guards. If you have a pick and roll, if you're a guard that's in a pick and roll system, when it's time for you to go to college, make sure you're in a pick and roll system. Make sure that's 90% of what that coach-playing that's what you did all through high school and you go to a
Starting point is 02:14:05 School that don't have that system. That means you are useless to that coach The best attribute follow what you do best Yeah And go to a place like you want to go to the school man We like to your point get where you gonna be appreciated Mm-hmm, well, you can go out and do what you do and do it best like that I'm all about that. That's what you just said be go to a school where they appreciate you They want you not where you want to fuck where you want to go. Trust me
Starting point is 02:14:36 Yeah, fuck where you want to go it ain't about where you want to go who won't you Who's sitting there knocking at your door every hey hey how you doing just want to we here hey hey we here you know we ain't got the money for you but we here but you know sometimes that money ain't all good money that man he might not have no money but his money is getting you to the next level you know he giving you 30 shots a game where you might be a lottery pick that's your money right versus taking $200,000 and this whole office ain't for you and you got to transfer.
Starting point is 02:15:07 You thought you was one and done. Beat his stuff. One and done here. You one and done here. Yeah, absolutely. Beat his stuff, Curry. Yeah, beat his stuff.
Starting point is 02:15:17 Drama rents. Yeah, go to, yeah. Preaching it to the man right now. Damien Lillard. Yeah. I'm telling him right now, bro. Big school is cool.
Starting point is 02:15:27 Mm-hmm. Right around here, you got Pepperdine, LMU, Salvar, CSUN. Boy, hey, go hoop. They gonna find you. Go do. They will find you. Yeah, yes. Fucking lottery pick out of Santa Clara or whatever.
Starting point is 02:15:42 Santa Clara? Yeah. Fuck. Huh? No, Santa Clara. Cer. Santa Clara, yeah. Fuck. Huh? No, Santa Clara. Cerritos? No, that was somebody else. Santa Clara.
Starting point is 02:15:49 Brayden Posimski. Somebody, it was like six, seven guard that came out of there. Yeah, nah, man. What's his name? From, nah, who is it? Yeah. Nah, from OKC, right?
Starting point is 02:16:00 Was it OKC? Nah, let me see. It was somebody a few years ago. You could tell, like, James Williams. Yeah. James Williams. Told me. Right was okay see now. It was somebody a few years ago Yeah So who yeah just who go get the best go be the best that you gonna be Tap your ability get with a tap your ability. Yeah So our next only fans question and I really still go in the morning fans
Starting point is 02:16:25 Yeah, we tell you. Last one. We went off on a tangent. Last one. We out of here. Yeah, I went off on a tangent. What's up, Kenny26? Now, we appreciate you, though. It's underdog user What's Up Kenny26.
Starting point is 02:16:33 Quick question for y'all at Gil's Arena. If Gil was the coach for the Detroit Pistons, would they have a better record? That's all I want to know. Y'all have a good day. Puff Pats. Yeah. Would they have a better record than they have now? Yeah, if you were coach.
Starting point is 02:16:54 Because you coached this pissing better than Monte Williams right now. I don't think so. Like, I mean, coaching versus enhancing development, enhancing the talent is two different things. I'm not even going to say, you know, I don't even know how to run a practice. I know how to practice in a practice. You know, not run a practice. You know, there's difference. Subbing, understanding um like watching the
Starting point is 02:17:27 game yeah but i'm not gonna take i'm not gonna take it i'm not gonna say i'm a better coach than somebody who's been doing it you know that's that's selfish but i can individually get those players a lot better than what they have over there right We might lose the same games, but God damn it, we're going to have a bunch of niggas that got 50 on our team. I can tell you that for sure. We're going to have motherfuckers.
Starting point is 02:17:55 We're going to have some... K, you're going to have... Hey, son, you're going to need to lead the league. You need to make me look good. You're going to need to lead the league and score. We might not win no games, but I need you to get 30-35. That'll be my speech, goddamn it.
Starting point is 02:18:10 And don't you pass to that motherfucker over there again. Mm-hmm. Yeah, now, mine ain't in a tough spot, but, yeah, I... I think you don't give yourself enough credit, Gil, on how smart you are about the game. You know the game completely. I ain't saying, like, I like the way you put it, saying that you couldn't do the job
Starting point is 02:18:29 that somebody, like, I like the way you put that. But no, the only thing you give yourself enough credit, man, the way you think about the game and how complete you think about the game, it'll be alright. Exactly. Yeah, because you smart enough to surround yourself with people that's going to help you.
Starting point is 02:18:49 It ain't just about you know what you know, and you know what you're great at, and you know what your deficiencies are in the game, right? So as long as you know that. And they're definitely going to be shooting the ball. Yeah, you're going to see a lot of threes. Y'all going to be shooting a lot of threes. I mean, that's what I said.
Starting point is 02:19:04 My practice is going to be, nigga, We try to want everybody max players in here We can't help. I mean we can't rely on anybody else. Let's we're gonna max out Yeah, you do that we compete defensively Do it ain't one thing man? Let me stop But I look at somebody like Chauncey, right? Well, I mean- Great mind, and you know, he's still losing games, so it can't be, you know, it ain't,
Starting point is 02:19:30 you know, coaching ain't that easy. You still got to deal with- Yeah, you still got that- Egos, motherfuckers trying to get this guy to play, and hey, see your worth. You know, that's part of coaching too. Yeah, it's all- Understanding, you know, hey, motherfucker, go get in and guard him. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:19:44 Yeah, but I think it's the mindset though, like- Yeah,'s the mindset you do like to go to hell ball. Like I'm not If I'm a score, I'm coming in. I'm happy Playing for you and then you and then this part of this having conversations with guys, man. I Just think that's huge part of it, you know being what what I need from you on a nightly basis don't happen enough. Yeah, yeah, you heard me. That's all. What I need from you individually on a nightly basis. And that you be nobody else.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Yeah, like you as a coach. That's all. You be on that training table. They be in there kicking it with you. Like it's just all that. All that count. I think sometimes, I think, like, when it comes to, like,
Starting point is 02:20:26 just that everybody really understanding their roles and then, you know, giving them hope and purpose. Like, the one thing you do want to do as a coach is
Starting point is 02:20:37 whatever a guy's role is, that if he works, that you will reward him. Absolutely. And I don't think a lot of coaches do that. Like, you know, hey, coach, if I sit in here, and I take 10,000 shots this week, can I get in? Hey, you take 10,000 shots this week, motherfucker,
Starting point is 02:20:55 yes, you in. You in. I need to see, you know what I mean? You going to be in, and I want you to shoot it. Like, you know, the fact that, like, you put that type of work in, I want to, yes. Because I know if to shoot it. Like, you know, the fact that, like, you put that type of work in, I want to, yes. Because I know if you did it, that means you connected something in your confidence. You set a goal, 10,000.
Starting point is 02:21:15 You accomplished it. That means you are happy inside. Like, you really believe that you're going to go out there and make some shots. make some shots So I let's go I want to give you that opportunity Mm-hmm, you know person ain't confident when they set a goal for themselves and they don't they don't hit it Right when you don't when you don't finish the the race is where you lose confidence No, or a motherfucker trip you You know that no Like that's a good place for us to stop today Or a motherfucker trip you. That's real shit. And on that note, I feel like that's a good place for us to stop today.
Starting point is 02:21:49 We appreciate everybody chatting. Hey, chat. Hey, chat. I need y'all to DM McCantsin. Please rebound for him. Please rebound for him. He need a rebounder. Rebound him.
Starting point is 02:22:03 Just rebound for him, man. Please. I'll pay you to rebound for him. He need a rebounder. Rebound him. Just rebound for him, man. Please. I'll pay you to rebound for him. Thank you. Go. All right. It's been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa!
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