Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Recaps The Thunder & Knicks' DOMINANT Weekend

Episode Date: May 19, 2025

Gil's Arena Reacts To A DOMINANT NBA Playoff Weekend as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to a weekend full of action in the NBA Playoffs as the Oklahoma City Thunder blew out the Denver Nuggets in Game 7 to advance to the Western Conference Finals & The New York Knicks finished off an improbable upset of the reigning champion Boston Celtics. They open up the show reacting to Jalen Brunson and the gritty New York Knicks taking down the Celtics to advance to their first Eastern Conference Finals in 25 years and discuss what clicked for this Knicks team & the core of Brunson, Karl Anthony Towns and Mikal Bridges after many years of failure. They also break down Brunson's clutch gene being on full display in these playoffs and react to the wild scene outside Madison Square Garden following the monumental win. They then break down Game 7 between the Denver Nuggets & OKC Thunder where Shai Gilgeous Alexander showed he's the best player in the world as he led his Thunder squad to a blowout win over Nikola Jokic & the Nuggets and proved this young team that dominated the NBA regular season is championship ready. They debate if 2nd options like Jalen Williams & Chet Holmgren will be enough to carry the Thunder all the way to a title and discuss if this loss closes the championship window for Jokic & The Nuggets. Finally, the Gil's Arena Crew welcomes WNBA Goat Sheryl Swoopes back to the couch to react to the WNBA's opening weekend and give her thoughts on the latest in the Caitlin Clark vs Angel Reese rivalry after their scrappy matchup this weekend. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas Josiah Johnson, Sheryl Swoopes, Kenyon Martin & Nick "Swaggy P" Young Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog. Go to https://ruffgreens.com/arena and use promo code ARENA Be the Champion of your grooming routine with MANSCAPED’s Full Power Shave Portfolio. Head to https://manscaped.com and use code GIL for 15% off your entire order Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 – 2 Min Countdown 0:02:01 – Show Start 0:08:09 – WNBA Opening Weekend 0:14:32 – Another HOSTILE Moment For Angel Reese & Caitlin Clark 0:48:14 – WNBA's Statement on Racism 0:50:38 – Knicks Finish Off The Celtics 1:08:24 – The Knicks Built Winning Players 1:18:56 – Knicks Fans Go Wild In The Streets 1:27:26 – What's Next For The Celtics? 1:39:16 – Shai ENDED The MVP Debate In Game 7 1:58:30 – Jokic Couldn't Carry The Nuggets Alone 2:01:04 – Are The Thunder A Championship Level Team? 2:09:29 – Nick's Crazy Take Sets OFF The Arena 2:19:44 – Trae Young Stays Trolling The Knicks 2:25:02 – Gil's Arena Is A Top 20 Podcast!! 2:28:12 – MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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terms apply. Instacart. Groceries that over-deliver. Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Woof Woof! So how's everybody doing today? Amazing! Uh-oh.

Ooh. WNBA is back. I love it. Yeah! We didn't know, but it's back. Gil. WNBA is back. I love it. Yeah. We didn't know, but it's back. Gil knew. Y'all knew. Gil was on playback streaming. Don't listen to this man. I said y'all knew. We knew.

We was ready. I know. I know. I know. How are you doing? We're doing good. I'm all right. Happy to be back on this couch for this glorious Monday.

Give a shout out to yourself and the rest of the Knicks fans out there. Right? You know, first season, conference, final. Yeah. You're our Lord 2000. 2000, baby. It ain't been there in a minute. It's been a long time coming.

Wait, wait. Since 2000? Yeah, we ain't been there since 2000. God. It's been a minute. About 25 years. No way. Since before 9-11.

And we ain't won since like, what, 72, 73, before I was born. For a lot of us. I know. It has been a minute. Before I was even conceived. You were a thot? 2000. Who was? Yeah, Nixon get a lot of wins from 2000, 2001, 2, 3, 4.

Why you say it like that? Because I was kicking their ass. Oh, yeah, you're sure. I knew. I knew. They made the playoffs. They got swept. Woo.

Yeah, I remember them days. Who was on their team in 2000? Huh? Who was on their team in 2000? Yeah. Done. I don't remember that team. Nobody.

Yeah, that's what I'm about to say. Nobody. It was. Hello. Was it Alan Houston, man? Oh, yeah. That was it. That was it.

But he was on the end, though. He was on the end. Oh, not then. Not then. In 2000? That Alan Houston was nice. Yeah. And, not then. Not then. In 2000? That was Houston. It was nice. Yeah, and Marbury, right?

No. No. They didn't play together? Yeah, they did after. Oh. We had a bunch of, like, small, like, small, undersized power forwards. Whole team was undersized. Who's he say, we?

A bunch of them. Hey, we. We. Rick Brunson on the squad. Yeah. Father of Jalen. When did he get good? LJ. My good.. Hey, we. We. Rick Brunson on the squad. Father of Jalen. When did he get good? LJ.

Freewell, Kurt Tomlin. John Wallace, Charlie Ward. Charlie Ward. Chris Childs. Charlie Ward. Two-piece beast. Charlie Ward. Wow. That's two-piece king.

I was in college then. So Chris Childs was my teammate. You ain't? Next. Yes, this was hard you know what I mean yeah all good

I didn't know got to soak in all this information in the last three weeks you know the history of our Knicks well they better get to it because

our Knicks our Knicks huh yeah we're going to talk about your Knicks a little bit later in the show

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gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kaya Martin, back here with us. Ladies and gentlemen, let's go. And making her return to the arena, we got Hall of Famer, four-time WNBA champion of the world, Cheryl Swoops, back here with us. Rocking the special pair of J's that are not available to us comic folk I mean

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Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Knicks smacked the Celtics to reach the Eastern Conference Finals for the first time in 25 years and now got a rematch with the Pacers. What does New York need to do to reach their first finals since 1999, though? SGA and the Thunder embarrassed the Nuggets in their Game 7 win to reach the Western Conference Finals. Where do OKC and Denver go from here? Headed in two different directions.

Everybody on the Nuggets roster not going to be here come next season. That's a very beautiful photo. Shout out SGA. The MVP. Shout out Vaughn Alexander. SGA's pops too. Sent his love to the Arena Guild. Sent his best wishes to Elijah. Say the sun is the MVP.

Now what? And with the potential for the highest payroll and luxury tax bill in league history next season, the Celtics have some tough decisions to make this offseason. Who's staying and who's going? Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead and download the app. Use promo code GILL. You get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em-as for the Western Conference Finals tomorrow night.

GILL has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let us take a look if we can as we get prepared. Western Conference Finals, Timberwolves versus the Thunder. You got Ant-Man higher, 23.5 points. SGA higher, 26.5 points. Julius Randle, he's been balling in these playoffs, higher, 19.5 points. Chet Holmgren, higher, 11.5 points, taking on his hometown team. Two points.

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Yeah, I'm going to roll with you on your picks. Okay, sure. You got one? I'm going to roll with that. 26 points. Damn. Yeah, guaranteed 30. That's easy. Yeah, it is. You know, don't jinx me. Don't jinx me, man.

If Julius Rangel continues to play the way he been playing. Yeah, Joe. So we asked the chat if they are riding or fading with your picks, Gil. 95%. Not 95%, but 66% of the chat riding with your picks for the Western Conference Finals game one. If you like these picks, head over to the underdog app and join Gil's partner pack.

If you don't have Underdog, download it right now. Use promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. And if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So, Cheryl, we got you in the building, so we got to show some love to the WNBA.

Oh. WNBA season tipped off this weekend. Packed with a lot of notable moments. Friday. It was that Friday 1, 1.30 a.m. in the morning, right? First game. It tipped off. Huh?

The game. What game? The first one. It came on at 1.30 a.m.? 1.30 a.m. It was just whoever's up can watch it. You watched it back on the replay. No, whoever's up can watch it.

You just tune in. Pack with a lot of notable moments. Like BET Uncut. So Liberty began their title defense with a win over the Aces. With Brianna Stewart and recent addition Natasha Cloud leading the way. As reigning unanimous MVP Asia Wilson put up 31 and 16 boards to become just the sixth player in league history with 100 double-doubles. Kelsey Blum dropped the W record for a season opener with 37 points

in the Sparks' win over the Valkyries in their inaugural game. Nafisa Collier welcomed number one overall pick Paige Becker to the league with a 34-piece in the Lynx win over the Wings. But Saturday, all eyes of the basketball world were on the first meeting of their sophomore season between last year's Rookie of the Year, Kaitlyn Clark, and all-star Angel Reese as the Fever took on the sky in Indiana's home opener. So we're going to start with the highlights first,

and then we'll talk about the play that had the internet buzzing. So let's take a look at the highlights, if we can, please. Clark and the New Look Fever had GameBridge Fieldhouse turnt up like an oven. Four of their five starters scored in double figures, with Clark leading the team with a triple-double of 20 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, along with four blocks. It was the first 20-point triple-double in a season opener in league history. Clark is now tied with Alyssa Thomas for the second most 20-point triple-doubles all time.

So Aaliyah Boston put up a double-double with 19 points and 13 rebounds on 8 of 12 shooting, while Kelsey Mitchell and Natasha Howard both had 15 points with both going 6 of 12 from the field. Dawana Bonner finished with 7 points but moved into third place on the W's all-time scoring list. Shout-out to her. Been getting buckets for a very, very long time. So on the sky side, only two players scored in double figures

with Angel Reese dropping a double-double with 12 points, 17 rebounds. Reese became the fastest player in WNBA history to record 450 points and 450 rebounds. Double-double machine. So the Sky trailed by 11 points in the third quarter before the Fever went on a 9-0 run to make it a 20 piece with the Fever outscoring the Sky 28-13 in the fourth quarter to cruise to a 35 point win, which is the second largest margin of victory in franchise history. So Cheryl, what were your biggest takeaways from the Fever's blowout win over the Sky in their season opener? Oh, a lot.

Besides the thing we're going to talk about in a second. No, I mean, it was a lot. I said during free agency that Indiana made some really good moves during free agency. And I know it's the first game, but I think it shows you added Vets, Tawana Bonner, Natasha Howard. Then you got Kelsey Plum coming. I mean, Kelsey Mitchell coming back. Aaliyah Boston coming back.

Kaitlin worked on her game. I think you could tell in this game she's gotten stronger. I just think the team. Yeah, I think the team itself is way better already than they were last year. Rightfully so. On the sky side, well, you know, a lot of people say it's just game one, which it is, but there was a lot of stuff that I saw or didn't see for the sky that I have question marks on how the season's going to go for them.

29% from the field, 22% from three in the game. Like I said, only two players in double figures. They don't have a lot of scoring. That was kind of sort of the first thing I saw. And even in adding Ariel Atkins, who to me has always really been a defender, so you're not going to get a whole lot of offense from her. Kia Nurse is a shooter. Courtney Vandersloot is just your point guard

who's going to get the ball where it needs to be. My question is, where is the scoring going to come from for Chicago? That, I think, is a question that a lot of us ask. I'm a big Becca Allen fan, and Becca Allen can score the ball. I think at some point she needs to be inserted into the starting lineup. Okay. So, Gil, you were watching that game on playback. Was I?

At 1.13 in the morning. You weren't on front. Didn't invite anybody to come watch with you. Was I? I just randomly checked playback from time to time. No, you weren't. You weren't? Gil on the stream.

Trying to act like he don't rock with the WNBA, having a good old time. That was, sorry, it was a hard game to watch. Like the first half, I was like, all right. But it was a hard game to watch, especially in the second half. I feel like Fever's fans enjoyed it, but maybe a little bit too much. Maybe crossed some lines, which we'll talk about in a second. But you watched that game on playback. Biggest takeaways from the Fever

smacking the sky in their season opener. Van Lipp, is she a better scorer than Sloot? Yeah. Yeah. When you talk about Newton's score. I'm glad you brought her up because I had the same question. Like, I know she's a rookie, but at some point you got to try something different to put somebody in the game

that can score the ball if nothing else like Haley's gonna compete she's gonna talk a shit she's gonna compete so at this point in Sloot's career and yes she is in my opinion especially since your your core is young besides you know Bonner. But for the most part, they're a young team. You might as well just implement her now and just let them. Because that pick and roll, you have two lefties, technically, doing the pick and roll, which is actually a positive. Or who? Who are you talking about? Angel Reese and Van Lith. Oh, yeah.

They did a pick and roll, and she's rolling to her left side. That's actually probably what it was. Haley Van Lith, 4.4 minutes of action. Two for two. I'm just saying, I mean. No, I completely agree with you. I don't quite understand that one. So we talked about the game,

but now we got to talk about the most controversial play of the game involving Kaitlin Clark and Angel Reese. Let's take a look at that if we can. So midway through the third quarter with the sky, trailing by 14. Reese got an offensive rebound and as she was attempting to go back up for the layup, Clark Fowler put a little extra on it,

sending Reese to the ground. Natural Reese was feeling that and wasn't happy about it. That's the things to say. Had to be held back as Clark walked away from the actions. Clark was given a flagrant foul on the play, a flagrant one, while Reese and Aaliyah Boston were given offsetting texts. Let's take a look at a couple more angles.

The hard foul, but then the little push after. Obviously, you don't want to give up the easy two points, no easy buckets in the W, but a little bit extra on it. She got in that way to me. I said she got bigger. She's just trying to show, you know what I mean? I ain't little no more. We ain't kids no more. So after the game, both players were asked about the incident.

It's just a good take foul, you know. Either Angel gets wide open two points or, you know, we send him to the free throw line. Nothing malicious about it. It's just a good take foul. Every basketball player knows that. Basketball play, refs got it right. Move on. She said basketball play, refs got it right. Move on. Basket said basketball play refs got it right. Move on. Basketball play refs got it right. Move on. Very quick, quick, succinct. Uh, so Cheryl, do you agree with both Clark and Reese saying this was a basketball play or was this figure and foul bigger than that?

I don't have an issue with the foul. I thought it was a hard foul. Yep, I thought the refs got it right. And to Angel's point, move on. My issue wasn't even with the foul. Right? If you're going to foul somebody, like, I was always taught you don't give up an easy basket. Period. And that's what I thought Kaitlyn did.

My thing with that was, like, stand in it. Stand on business. Yeah. Right? Like, don't walk away. My other issue was, I also have always been taught when I played, go grab your own teammate. Don't come grab my teammate. So where Aaliyah Boston went over to Angel and was kind of like, we ain't going to do that.

To me, you got to go get your own teammate. I didn't have a problem with the foul. I thought it was a hard foul. I thought the refs got it right, and then you keep on playing. I got issues with all the other stuff that came along with that. Not that foul.

Kenyon, familiar with these situations. I think you've always been, like Cheryl said, you grab your own teammate because when you step in, things tend to happen when you try to mess with the opposing team's players.

I'm sorry. She was walking off. But the other part of that is where were Angel's teammates? Can we see that again? Can we watch that one more time, please? Caitlin was walking off, so there was no need for nobody to grab her.

But don't grab my teammate. I dig that. I hear you in that regard, but there was no need for the guard to grab Kaitlyn. Kaitlyn was walking off. But Aaliyah actually kind of shoved Angel a little bit. Pulled Angel away. I got no issue with none of it. It's just basketball is soft as hell right now on both sides of it.

There ain't no damn flagrant foul, man. That's not a flagrant foul. It was. It was. Angel's push was a lot harder. Yeah, well, it was. Not the initial part, but Kaylin later on pushed her. It was.

I'm talking about the push before to get the. Angel's push on the. They've called. They're just trying to get control of the game. That's not a... No, they weren't. No. They weren't trying...

Listen, they've called softer flagrant fouls in the NBA. I say it's all soft. So, that's a flagrant foul. That's not a flagrant foul. Okay. Nah. Okay. Go back.

Go back to the... Go back to it. Go back to the beginning. Go back to the first part. Go back to the control of the game. Angel's foul right here. That's harder. No, Angel, she pushed her.

That's smaller. But they didn't call that. She did push her. They didn't call that. Kaitlin appears to be pointing out that call before the take foul. You got to look at the different angle. The initial foul, I was like, no, it wasn't. You don't think it's more of a flop?

So all the different angles. No, I didn like, no, it wasn't. You don't think it's more of a flop? Yeah. So all the different angles. No, I didn't think it was a flop. I love it. Huh? I mean, you're stronger than shit. I've seen the Thomas push. Look at all that.

Come on. Yeah, that's sick. You've seen the what? That Thomas body slam. And I'm like, okay, that was a real foul. Oh, for sure. You feel like Kalen should have stood on business there? I just felt, yeah. Stood on what business?

Come on. So you didn't see Caitlin push her? Yeah, so she ain't trying to fight. So what business do y'all want to start? Wobble up, can you? Somebody that's solid. That right there doesn't make them push. Like, you got to open up. That's like the Embiid.

I'm just kidding. That's that Embiid flop where I'm trying to sell this foul. So here's my thing, right? Like, you're saying that's not a flagrant. And I think it depends on the angle and all those things. All right, fine. But my thing is, had Angel or anyone else done the exact same type of a foul to Caitlyn, the storyline is different.

Well, I don't know. Okay, okay. It is. Here's the problem. No, it is. If I go back to last year, though, Gil, like everybody was like, oh, my God, they're trying to take Caitlyn out. No, like they were just hard fouls.

But it's still body size. But the story, no, Even from guards, though. What I'm saying is a guard, like, if a guard, someone, if I got to try to foul him to stop him, my hit on him has to match his power. So if he's trying to go for the dunk, I got to really grab on him to wasn't it. If I'm trying to go up any hit from him, I'm hurt.

So is there not a rule, it's a question, of if you're not making a play on the ball, it's a flagrant. Man, come on. That was a play on the ball, though. No, it wasn't. She didn't go for the ball. You're holding the ball. She didn't go for the ball.

So if I give you a hand one, then what? She didn't go for the ball. So I'm supposed to give you a hand one? No, it's a hard foul. Yeah, so it's not a flagrant. But she didn't go for the ball. So I'm supposed to give you a hand one? No, it's a hard foul. Yeah, so it's not a flagrant. But she didn't go for the ball. She did. But the ball's on the left side.

The ball is on the right side. She didn't go for the ball. But that's what I'm saying. Let's watch it one more time, please. Remember, she's left-handed, so she's coming across the right side. She hit the ball. She did not hit the ball. She grabbed her right arm.

Okay, grab the right arm. The ball's in the left hand. She didn't go for the ball. Arm your hand part of the ball. She did not hit the ball. She grabbed her right arm. Okay, grab the right arm. The ball's in the left hand. She hit the ball. Arm, hand, part of the ball. Another angle coming, right? It seemed like the sky bench was more ready for whatever than the actual players on the court. The sky bench wasn't ready for that.

They were not. They were not. Look, right here. She hit the ball. No, all arms. I thought that was the ball. I mean, that's... But we got...

Like, so this is my thing. I would have... a ball. Really? I mean, that's why we got. Like, so this is my thing. I would have, she wouldn't go do it. But yo, yo, I would have. We'll swipe the swipe across, but it's both arms. In a different life, in a different time, if Caitlyn would have turned around and just slapped the shit out of him.

Bitch, back up. Bah! I wish, I wish she would have done it. I would have been like, yo. I wish she would have done it. You have been like I wish she would have done it You would have seen Pitbull on a twilight That was never going to happen Back up

And your question for you If Gil fouls you like that What's your reaction? No big deal? No, they don't mean it That means every foul we done fouls Shaquille O'Neal I know who he is I know who he is, That's a flagrant thing. I know who he is.

He don't mean it. We done jumped on this nigga back every day. I get ready to go up. You're saying you know who he is. He didn't mean it. So if you don't know who it is, your reaction's different? No, it just depends on who it is. You know, I'm shocked that Kalen even did that.

Like, if I foul somebody that way, they gonna react like Draymond fouled him, right? What'd you say? I'm shocked that she even fou'm going to get the... They're going to react like Draymond fouled her, right? What'd you say? I'm shocked that she even fouled her like that. Why? That reminds me of when Draymond gets fouled. Yeah. But why? But that's my...

Like, why are you shocked that she fouled her that way? I don't know. It's just because I feel like she knew this was coming. This would have came. She don't really do that. You didn't think Angel was going to jump up like... What starts it is Angel jumping up. No, it don't sound like that. If Angel just gets her foul and walk off, nobody... It don't really do that. You didn't think Angel was going to jump up like... What starts it is Angel jumping up. Angel just gets her foul and walk off nobody.

She don't pass like that. Do she foul? But, Gil, you know, in a game, when you get fouled that way, and especially if you're losing by 25 or 30... You got to add that in. Yeah, but I'm saying, you know, in a game... They're down 14 at that point. Okay, 14.

But there are two things you're going to do. You're either going to just stay on the ground and be like, oh, I got hurt or stay on the ground, or you're going to jump up like she did. Like, it's two things you're going to do. You're either going to just stay on the ground and be like, oh, I got hurt or stay on the ground or you're going to jump up like she did. Like it's two things you're going to do. You know, it's... Oh, it is. This shit's so true.

Squabble up. I said I had no issue with the foul. And so when you're like, you're surprised that she even fouled her that way. But that's the part for me, I'm like... Are you committing a similar foul in that situation? Probably so. Yeah.

You would be surprised if somebody jumped up like, that was just a regular foul. I'm not going to give you an easy layup. I'm going to foul the shit out of you. And that's what I thought she did. You said I'd be surprised. But I'm also going to stand in mine. Also going to stand in mine. Like, I ain't going to foul you hard like that and then walk off

like I didn't do anything. Is the jump up the surprising part? Just a regular foul like that? No. But here's what I would say. It's not like you're fast breaking somebody pushing you out of bounds. I'm just...

It's who did it. Angel, yeah. It's who did it. That's what. Well, we know there's documented history. It's who did it. That's what I'm saying. Who would think Angel would have failed? Do you think Angel should be falling?

That's what I was saying. First of all, I think if anybody fouls Angel like that, she's going to have that reaction. Falling? I don't think so.

No, she's going to jump up like that. She feisty. She feisty. Are you saying she fops a little bit It has nothing to do with the fact that

it's Kate. I don't care. No, it wasn't.? It has nothing to do with the fact that it's a cake. I don't care. No, it wasn't. Yes, it does. No, it wasn't. 100%. Nope. Yes.

No. Her reaction, absolute. There'll be more to it. No, it may have added to it. There's more on there. I don't care who would have fouled Angel like that. She's going to jump up with that. What about that body slam from Thomas?

Well, she jumped up. Huh? She jumped up. Whoa! Shoot my free throws. Let me shoot my free throws. Let me shoot my two free throws. So, you said the girl pushed in her chest. She didn't acknowledge her? Because she

was trying to go get Caleb. But she didn't stiff-throw him until he stopped you in your track. Like, where the fuck you going? She was still trying. Hey, I wasn't talking to her over there. Listen, Thomas fell back. Yeah, that shit was hard. It's a new year, Gil. A new season. It's a new Hey, I won't talk in the hall over that. Listen, Thomas fell back. Yeah, that shit was hard. It's a new year, Gil. A new season.

It's a new W. I look at it like this. The people who hit the hardest, that's what I said, it reminds me of the Draymond, foul the shit out of everybody. Soon as they get hit with a little pressure, it's the flop part of it. And that's why I said, I just thought she was just selling a call to make sure she'd get her file. And I'm like, okay, two free throws, cool. I just think it's such a

double standard because that type of shit happens in the NBA all the time. And when it happens in the WNBA, everybody's like, oh my gosh, did you see that? Well, they don't like each other. It's a whole lot of players I didn't like. But then you immediately, people, the media, everybody else,

you immediately go to social media. You have ignorant-ass people like RG3 who decides he going to go and he got all these things to say. It was too long for me to read. I'm going to be honest. Yeah, I know. But my point is you're just putting people on the fire. Because you already know what people are thinking.

I think saying basically angel, angel. Yeah. And we don't like each other. Cool. But so what? Yeah. What I'm saying is, okay, let's just rewind two years ago. No one gave a fuck about what happened in the W.

Yeah. Right? I wouldn't say no one. No, I'm just saying just majority. Not no one. I mean, you know, just everybody who didn't pay attention. Right? I wouldn't say no one. No, I'm just saying just majority. Not no one. I mean, you know, just everybody who didn't pay attention. Right? Now, I feel that, hey, if this is what is going to get you to watch, watch.

I mean, you know, at this point, like, you're talking about, like, these are topics now, right? If the W needs to sell Angel Reese and Caitlyn as this is why you should watch this game, then... So that brings me to my next... That's a whole other situation. I mean, it is, and it really is, but it's like, I mean, the black and white thing is, it's easy. It's an easy it really is. But it's like, I mean, the black and white thing is it's easy. It's an easy sell in America. Does it feel reminiscent of kind of Magic Larry Bird back in the day? I would say that, yeah.

In terms of how they're trying to build the rivalry? I don't know. I wasn't. Well, you watched Winning Time. I mean, yeah. I mean, what I'm saying, I wasn't really born in that. You know what I mean? Quality program.

I'm saying they face each other in college, a similar situation, face each other in the league. I think that's what they're trying to play on. We don't have to this year necessarily, right? It's a rival, but it's not really a rival that you can see who gets the best of who because they don't play the same position. The media wants it to be. Yes.

You know why? Because of the storyline. Because it's the biggest storyline selling that's out there. I know you're trying to move on. I'm just saying, if I'm the W, these motherfuckers have eight games. So that brings me to the next

point. So we asked the chat if it was a flagrant foul or a normal foul. 81% of the chat said normal foul. We asked the chat, did Angel Reese flop? 72% of the chat said yes, Angel Reese did flop. But it brings me to my next question. Is the Kaitlyn Clark-Angel Reese rivalry good for the WNBA? Like Gil said, it brings in fans that may not have traditionally watched the W.

Creates some tension. That's so obvious. It's not? No, no, no. I was talking about something else. Okay, no. You know. Four-time champion.

You tell me what to do. No, I'm laughing at Kenyon because... Okay, you messing around? No, she said they don't like the girl. No, she flopped and it wasn't a flagrant.

But they don't. I won't even talk about that play. Okay, that's two separate things. It's very odd, but it's obvious, though. Two separate things. So they're always

going to go that way. Like, let me ask you this. It's true. It's out there. me ask you this. It's true. It's out there. It's out there everywhere. If she wasn't any good, right? Right? If she didn't do what she did in college,

she didn't make the name she named for herself in college, get drafted where she did, double-doubles, need to work on her game, of course, offensive game, but she still is a solid piece for her team. If she wasn't any good, people wouldn't have anything to say,

I guess. I mean, I agree with that. So it kind of, you can't have it one way and then expect it to be another way, right?

But what do you mean have, what do you mean? Like, you can't be like, like you're good and you want the praise and all that shit, right? So people are going to love you.

There are people who praise her or love her, who adore her or they do that. But on the same token, it comes with it. It's just the day and age that everybody voices loud because it's social media, right? I don't disagree with that at all. Everybody has a platform. Everybody has that. So you have to accept it. You don't have to accept it, but it's a part of it, right? I don't disagree with that at all. Everybody has a platform. Everybody has that. So you have to accept it. You don't have to accept it, but it's a part of it, right?

I don't disagree with that at all. The cheers are never going to be as loud as the boos. Never. For her? For her, just period. As great as LeBron has been, it's negativity every fucking time this man

puts on his fucking jersey so no matter what he has done in his basketball career there are still people that fucking dislike him no matter what he's done all right off the floor so it's gonna be the same we've all experienced so it's gonna be the same thing with injury so i'm i just want to get like this is what it is this is a part of your professional athlete right now you're not a child anymore. You're a professional athlete. So you're going to get critiqued on your play, how you look, how you talk,

who you deal with. It's just a part of it. It's unfortunate that it's on display, but it's on display because you did something positive. You can't like... It was the reverse Uno card. The moment she did this right here. She took the bad guy,

beat the bad guy. Because, let's just be honest, before they faced each other, Andrea Reese was the antics girl that was everybody too small. Like, she was the fun-loving. Kaitlyn Clark was the antics girl that was everybody too small like she was the fun loving Caitlin Clark was the bad guy in whose eyes

everyone's you remember what she did to South Carolina when a girl was getting ready to shoot and she did one of these in whose eyes Caitlin Clark's never been the bad guy yeah she was a bad guy in whose eyes she was doing this to everybody. She wasn't actually liked like that.

She was well-embraced in the Midwest. Yeah, she was Midwest, yes, but for media, I'm trying to tell you what I'm watching. And then when she did this, when she did this, Angel Reese became the bad guy. The media has never,

has never come for Caitlin. But they've never come for Caitlyn the way they come for Angel. No, but they wasn't coming for, when I'm telling you what happened, it was a switcher. Caitlyn's never been the bad guy. It was a switcher, Rudy. Caitlyn Clark was a bad guy. She was the one that was fucking with everybody, doing all

this, waving, turning her back on everybody. Everybody was like, oh, she's a cocky little son of a bitch. No, they love that. I'm trying to tell you. They love that. They did. Yes, they did. That national championship game, when Angel Reese did this, Angel Reese became the bad guy.

Katelyn Clark's never done her moves since. She went and became the innocent girl that don't do nothing wrong. When Katelyn did that, everybody was like, oh my God, did you see what she did? Oh, everybody loved it. She ain't done it since.

Everybody loved it. As soon as Angel did it, all of a sudden it's, well, how dare she? How dare she? That's what I'm saying. How dare you do something? So you took my thing from me and I'm going to be the innocent white girl.

But everybody loved it. Then she became the enemy. She became loves you. Then she became the enemy. She became the enemy. But she became the enemy and Caitlyn's never done that move since. She gave it to Angel and said, have fun. I'm going to be this darling, innocent girl who don't do nothing wrong

and that's been what's happened. So when they fight each other, when they go against each other, there's literally now a good and a bad. And Angel Reese is the bad girl. Angel's always been the bad. She wasn't. Yeah, she was.

Yeah, I got to go back and watch. No, you got to go back and watch. I was watching them. She's always been the bad guy. I was watching the little, you too small, you was too small. She wasn't hated. She wasn't hated on this platform,

but she's always been that tough guy. She was like the answers girl. I know what she was. But back to my point, is the Kaitlyn Clark-Angel Reese rivalry good for the WNBA? People in the chat are battling back and forth saying, Gil, to your point, you always make it's not a real rivalry because they don't play the same position, but the media

has built it up as such. Milk it until you can't. Milk it until you can't. The media has built it up. Milk it until you can't. I look at it like that. Because when Angel Reese played Asia Wilson, it was eh. Right?

And that's, you know what I mean? That's a big powerhouse name, and they kind of played each other, and it didn't get the buzz that we thought it would got. America, this is it. This is it. No matter how we want to talk about it, I'm going to put two dolls against each other.

I'm just going to milk it until I can't milk it no more. Why do Angel got to be the bad guy? She don't have to. She could have dropped it, but I guess it's just... It's not like Angel's going around saying, I want to be the bad guy. The media is... But I'm just saying, it's interviews all...

Forcing something on somebody that you don't know if she wanted to be that. And what I'm just saying is, go from interviews, the snappy interviews and all that, it's just easy to... I was waiting on y'all to get done. Yeah. It's like when you... It's easy to just make it. I was waiting on y'all to get done. It's

like when you it's easy for them because you give them attitude. You make it easy for the media. You make it easy for them. How does she give them attitude? I don't watch a lot of it, but most of the stuff that I see it's

that. Go play that again. You thought that was attitude? What the hell was it? I didn't think that was attitude. I thought that was we just got our ass beat by 30 points. Come on.

You can say that by 30 points. Come on, Sherry. You're the face. No, listen. You can say that about a whole lot of players in post-game. Basketball player, rest, make the call, move on. That's not the end of the deal. But that's... She should have been like, oh my God, it was a basketball.

But you're saying that because she's a girl or she's a woman, so she should be more like, oh, it was just a basketball play, move on. But I'm probably going to have that same attitude, though. But you know the narrative they're trying to push on her, so you got to beat them to, you have to beat them to their narrative. Here's my question.

Why does Angel, not even Angel, you know what? Why does any black woman have to be different in a post-game press conference? Who said black? I did. I did because it's very different. Because you know how many other players, like how many white players I'll see in post-game press conference?

They answer questions just like this. But nobody cares about them. Let's make a point. But they'll answer just like that. But nobody cares about them. Let's try to make a point. But nobody cares about them. They do care. But they'll answer just like that and we're not sitting here having this conversation about because

she gives them attitude. We haven't seen them. Oh, I've seen them. It's not big enough for anybody to talk about. Like Asia Wilson. We don't know if she gives attitude or not. No one, no one.

Brianna Stewart does postgame interviews when either she didn't play well, they got beat by 30, 40. Everybody's going to have an attitude like that. So if you did a postgame, when you play, you did postgame interviews and a lot of, but also reporters will ask some dumbass questions. That is fair. So you gonna sit there and be like, oh,

no, I thought it was a basketball play. Let's move on. Nah. Like, I just, I don't think it's fair that black women are held to one standard. This is how we're supposed to be, how we're supposed to approach everything,

how we're supposed to respond, how we're supposed to answer. And if we don't answer the way they think we should, then we're labeled as we got attitude or we're aggressive. Like that one, I don't agree with that. Because it's the angry black woman. But if you're the...

It's the angry black woman. That's my point. But why? The clue of it is a myth, Because it's the angry black woman. But if you're the... It's the angry black woman. That's my point. But why? The clue of it is a myth, but it's a thing, right? Either way, either way, right? It's a thing because people make it a thing. Including, including... So it goes back to the way I react to things, right?

Anybody would get mad at that. So it's the thing, so it goes back to... I take my mother, black woman, right? Mm-hmm. Fit the same shit, right? And I tell her the same thing. You can't react like that to everything and everybody. Right?

You can't. Why? You can't. I'm saying why? Why? You can't. Because she a black woman. Which is wrong. Exactly. Which is wrong. You can't cause she a black woman which is wrong you can't react with attitude my mom just got out listen she in the hospital having an open heart search and a fucking giving these people

attitude you just got your goddamn chest cut open you're in a giving these fucking people attitude I said listen these fucking people got your life in their hands you gotta be able to turn that off at some point.

Well, Kenyon, that example and this example are two totally different things. But the point I'm making is the angry black woman thing. Is this true or is it a myth? It's a thing. Whether you want to fall into the conversation

or the category or not it's a thing right like listen Paz made something the other day I don't know if you saw it he was somewhere getting food buying something person in front of him white lady whatever

the chick that's serving the white lady taking the order black chick all hunky ducky hey how you doing right Paz come up there he said serving the white lady, taking the order. Black chick, all hunky-dory. Hey, how you doing? Right? Pryor's come up there and he said, that shit changed off the top. Can I help you? Pryor said, no, you can't help me until you give me the same

motherfucking energy you just gave that white lady. You know what I'm saying? People don't make it up. Right? Because I fit the angry black man thing and I might know but when presented with bullshit I can absolutely be that right

absolutely you know what I'm saying when presented with it absolutely I'm gonna give it to you but me knowing the way that I can be perceived I try my best to dispel that. Right?

Because that's what people are expecting me to do and me to be. Right? Well, me and this fuck nigga got into it the other day, right? This fuck nigga? This one over here, K? I was so mad at myself the rest of the day. People understand this. I was mad at myself because I got tricked.

Because I got tricked because I got tricked off my spot, you know what I'm saying? And I vowed myself not to do that, right? Because I know how what people are, I'm with the New York people, man, you should have slapped me, you should have, no, that's what I'm not going to do. Because that's what people are expecting me to do and me to be.

No, I wasn't. He would have been asleep. No, I wasn't. He wasn't even on the call. Come on, Nick, get up. Come on, Nick, get up, Nick. You know what I'm wasn't It wasn't even on the card Come on Nick get up It wasn't even on the docket Come on Nick get up Nick You know what I'm saying It wasn't even on the docket You know what I'm saying

But I know this is what people think about me So I go above and beyond To try to dispel that I'm not saying that she should Cause this is her career I played and I did certain shit When dudes

People ask a certain question in the media, you have a choice whether you want to answer that question or not. They can say, don't say If she says, the question they ask, if she says, no response or I don't want to answer.

It's not cool. If she doesn't answer it, if she doesn't answer it, that's a problem. That's angry. So my thing is, you can't, not you, but you can't sit here and tell her how she should respond. I'm not.

I'm not saying you. I'm just saying in general. You have been the face of Houston, USA. You know damn well how you're supposed to come into this podium, knowing damn well that somebody is going to ask you this question. They're going to try to irritate you on this question. You already know that as a professional, as the MVP,

how you're supposed to answer this. I have no issue with how she answered that question. You don't because it's your mannerisms that's thinking about it. How about the mannerisms that they have on her like Draymond Green. We know how Draymond Green plays the game. Angry black man is what

they perceive. So when they go to him in an interview, who do they think they're looking for? Who do you think they're trying to irritate so they can prove their... When they write their articles. Hey, so Draymond, what do you think that... Him saying... Him addressing and proving their point.

Yes. Him saying, y'all will stop proving me as... It doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter. Like if that was... If she says no comment, it's still gonna be angry.

Any way she answers it, it's gonna get... Only way you come in there is, I know why y'all here. Listen, I know why y'all here. You have to start it off with humor. You gotta beat them to their punch because you know what they wanna write. They wanna write it. Don't give it to them. How do you know she didn't come in there

like that? You don't know if that was the first question. They just got beat by 35 points. But I'm just saying, like, you don't know what happened. Because of who you are, because of who you are in this situation, not every game, this game, you got beat by 30. They come in here talking about you got

your ass whooped by 30, and this Kaitlyn Clark. Soon as they come in here, I know why y ass whooped by 30 and this caitlyn clark soon as they come in i know why y'all here how do you think she should have i know y'all here we just got our ass whooped by 30 and y'all see y'all see some aggressive shit from me i get it come on in and that's it right there that brings everybody's level down you gotta be you gotta be smart enough to beat them at their own game. Because all they're seeing here is like, mm-hmm. But how do you know how she walked in that room, though? I don't know. I'm just... But I'm saying, like, it could have been...

I'm sure that wasn't the first question. It wasn't. But my... But again... Oh, I'm sure that wasn't the first question. But my point is this. That was the first question for her. When other women of a different color have this so-called attitude

nothing said it's not a big deal you know what it's an excuse for well i understand it because they got beat by 30 or this happened in a game where she had a bad game so like that's the part where, to me, as a black woman, that's the type of shit we deal with every single day. Yeah. So to look at Angel or whoever else, to look at Angel and say, well, you need to change your attitude in the post-conference. Right, change your attitude to make people at... Post-game press conference. Feel comfortable? Like...

I mean, it ain't about me feeling comfortable. It's about what you want me to write. So. Well, you're gonna write what you want to write. No! I'm not. Yes, you are. I know what I want to write. I know what the fuck I want to write. I'm just going, are you going to get it to me? So you've never had a media member

you said something and then you go read it and be like, dang, I don't remember saying it. Didn't read it, so. like dang I don't remember saying it didn't read it so but that's what I said but I was I understood media early watching how they manipulate and watching them you know I started off on a bench so go to this guy

and then he say something and then I heard exactly what he said and then he go to this guy and then say the opposite of what he said just to get a reaction from him and then boom these two beefing all because of manipulation. So then Kyle Moore on top of it, because I know you're going there.

The other stuff that she had to deal with is all the other stuff that she had to deal with that. Being called monkeys and all these racial slurs. There was reports of a monkey chance and slurs being heard during the game. So you expect her to go in a press conference and not have attitude. Yeah.

No. For her brand. I'm not. No, I mean, no. I'm not. I'm not what she's going to deal with. For someone who's going to be a possible face and possibly an MVP at some point, yeah. Because you've got to know where you are.

Every other game, no. You're going to be you because it's not going to be this game. And what happened, they... You don't get to control how my attitude's going to be. No, no, you get to control it. You control it. But she did. I'm just here to write.

No, she did. What you going to say? So we asked the chat, is the Clark vs. Reese rivalry good for the WNBA? 79% of the chat says yes. Today's podcast is sponsored by Rough Greens. Sometimes in life... Yeah, we talked about this. I'm trying to make money for the show.

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to roughgreens.com and use code ARENA. Alright, well we had some stuff on the NBA side as well that we need to discuss. We're going to start with your favorite team, Gil. You just going to cut it off? You ain't going to talk about the statement that WNBA put out?

Would you like me to read that statement? Okay. So Cheryl, like you mentioned, there was reports of slurs being held, some monkey noises according to OutKick. Cannot confirm or deny that. WNBA release statement said, WNBA strongly condemns racism, hate, and discrimination

in all forms. They have no place in our league or society. We are aware of the allegations and are looking into the matter. Is getting rid of that fever fan a little too turnt up, may have crossed the line. We will see what the WNBA investigation finds. Y'all surprised?

No. Oh, okay. Are you surprised? About what? This. The statement? No. No, no, no.

What happened? Because that's a joke. What happened? No. Okay. I wasn't surprised last year what happened. Okay. Oh, did the same team?

Yeah. That's all. That's the point I'm making. I wasn't surprised last year when it happened. Oh, they're the same team? Yeah. That's all. That's the point I'm making. I mean, Boston. Oh, I know. And Indiana. So from Indiana to Boston. It's not Indiana.

So let's talk about... Indiana, it ain't Indiana, bro. No, I know. Celtics, Knicks, game six. I'm sorry. So you choose to have an All-Star game in a city where this stuff... So they should take the game, right? I dig it.

We will talk about that. You're asking me what I think? No, no, no, I'm saying, yeah, that should be consequences, right? What I think. Because it's not the first incident, right? No. And it definitely won't be the last. Yeah, so therefore, yeah, there should be some consequences for the fans. And repercussions, as they say. Yeah, absolutely. I dig it. Well, let's move on to the NBA

Eastern Conference. A star-studded affair in Madison Square Garden for game six of the Celtics' next Eastern Semis Friday. Is this the WNBA's first statement that they've put out ever? Ever? I would imagine that they've put out statements before. Regardless of this match?

Just ever? Ever or regardless? Of this nature? I'm just being honest. I know they in the office like, we on, baby. We popping. We hot in this motherfucker, yeah.

Who else got something to say? Get the maps ready. Get the maps ready. We about to be streaming everywhere. We about to hire somebody else. PR, baby. So moving on to Celtics-Knicks. Like I said, star-studded affair in Madison Square Garden for game six

of the Celtics-Knicks Eastern Semis Friday. New York sought to do something they haven't done this century. Boston got the 25-point blowout win at the crib in game five without Jason Tatum to keep their season alive. After that game, the Knicks held a players-only meeting at their team facility where they agreed they needed to get their minds right and After that game, the Knicks held a players-only meeting at their team facility where they agreed they needed to get their minds right and play with a sense of urgency. The Knicks were with the shit with the chance to reach

their first Eastern Conference Finals since 2000 as Tibbs' squad came through to deliver the knockout punch in historic fashion. Let's take a look at the highlights from the game if we can. The game was back and forth in the first quarter and tied midway through before the Knicks went on a 10-4 run to end the period with a six-point lead. But in the second quarter, New York took over the game, outscoring Boston 38-17 in that second quarter.

But let's take a look at Bill Bridges, who did his thing. Bing bong. Bing bong. Oh! I know, that was nice. Jalen Brown did his best to try to keep his team in it. But like I said, second quarter, New York took over the game, outscoring Boston 38-17 to take a 27-point lead into the break.

Jalen Brown scored 18 of his 20 points in the first two quarters, accounting for nearly half of the Celtics' 37 total points in the half. But Brown's night ended early as he fouled out in the third quarter with the game already looking out of reach. You see Josh Hart out there doing it. You got to give kudos to the Knicks, man. They did their thing. No Tatum, but still got the job done.

So no other Celtics starter scored more than 10 points in the game. Derrick White being held at just 8 points after dropping 34 in Game 5. Meanwhile, six Knicks scored in double figures in this one with four eclipses in the 20-point mark. Jalen Brunson and O.G. Ananobi led the team in scoring with 23 points each with Brunson going 8 of 14 from the field and adding 6 rebounds and 6 assists. Ananobi came up just short of a double-double with 9 rebounds. Mikael Bridges

added 22 points. And the Big Bodega came through with his fifth double-double of the series with 21 points and 12 rebounds. Josh Hart dropped a triple-double, 10 points, 11 rebounds, 11 assists. The first postseason triple-double for a Knicks player since Walt Clive Frazier did it

in 1972. Knicks led by as much as 41 points in the third quarter and with little under two minutes remaining in the third and Jalen Brown already on the bench after fouling out. Joe Mazzulla doing the towel, pulled his starters. It's New York's first series-clinching win in the Garden since 2001. The 38-point win was the largest in Knicks history. Our resident Knicks fan currently on the couch,

you and Shasha Adamas, what are the biggest takeaways from the Knicks reaching their first conference finals since 2000? What's the biggest takeaway? Takeaways, plural. Takeaway, takeaways. We up. Put the word out.

The city's on fire right now. Listen, I'm just be honest with you. I can see why the Knicks ain't won shit in the last 25 years. Why is that? You can't trust them on wins, man. They're fucking the city up right now. It's a no-fly zone up in New York. All flights canceled.

Don't wear no different jersey up there, boy. God damn. Don't wear no different jersey up there. I can God damn. Don't wear no different jersey up there. I can see why, yeah. But, no, it was good that they bounced back at home. The city needs this. The franchise needs this. And, you know, them boys came to play.

You know, it's always about the bounce back. You know, it's easy to get a game, too. But, you know, the fact that they did defeat them. And we can say Jason Tatum wasn't there, but he was getting their ass whooped when Jason Tatum was there, too. He had a hand in getting that ass whooped. You know, so, you know, these boys are coming to play. You know, they got us around, and now it's Indiana. And I know everyone's talking about how great Indiana is, and, you know, they should be worried about Indiana. And I know everyone's talking about how great Indiana is and, you know, they should be worried about Indiana.

You just defeated last year's champion, a favorite this year, and they had their star player for the first, you know, three games. I don't think they're, you know what I mean? There's nothing you're going to tell this group, right? They had Jason Tatum and them, and they took two in their building with their full roster. Indiana, they're not looking at Indiana

as a threat, and I think they're going to go in there and just... I'm sorry. Huh? I'm sorry. There's Jalen Brown and Tatum and this final four. I went in their building and beat you in two games respectfully. Respectfully. Indiana not giving them

no 20-point lead. Respectfully, though. But I'm just saying, if y'all can get up 20, can you get up 20? Are y'all good enough to get up 20? They can. That's what I'm saying. And the Knicks were up nine when Tatum suffered his injury. I know. I'm just saying that. We played a hell of a team. Each one of them

game boys was down 20. You get down 20 in that field house, you get down 20 in Indiana, you getting your ass beat in that building. Maybe the monkey noise is in the crowd. My thing is, the biggest takeaway from this is, the fact

that you boys are going this game six a chance to advance and y'all got to have a team meeting. It's the fucking playoffs. Fuck, like, what we need to talk about? We need to get it together.

Like, really? So we got to discuss that? They should be focused. They needed us. They needed us. No, no, no. Boston should have had a goddamn meeting. Go look in the mirror.

Go look in the mirror. Motherfucker, do you want to win or not? What's wrong with having a team meeting during the playoffs? I'm going to tell you straight up, motherfucker, go look in the mirror. There's nothing I can tell you right now that's going to help you. There's nothing that I can tell you in this meeting right now that's going to help you. Do you want to fucking win or not? But we don't know what their conversation's about. Do you want to win or not? But we don't know what their

conversation's about. Do you want to win or not? Go look in the mirror. That's all I got to tell you. Go look in the mirror, dude. To your point, they came back from 20-point deficits game one and two. They might be talking about we need to get better in the first half, first quarter. I need to

encourage you right now. We needed a team bonding. Let's go eat. We back moment. Yeah. Go bowling. Let's go eat. We back home. Go fucking bowling. Instead of going bowling, they should have a team get together. Go to the strip club.

I don't know, but we ain't finna talk about the game. There's nothing I can tell you right now, bro. Come on to the strip club. Go make them be focused more. Hey, do something other. There's nothing I can tell you right now. Who, the players? It's player bowling.

Yeah, if we ain't here together, there's nothing I can tell you right now. Who, the players? It's player calling. Yeah, if we ain't here together, there's nothing I can tell you. Yeah. I mean, let's get our shit together for the first quarter because we've been getting our ass with it. Because we ain't been doing it. Well, I shouldn't have to tell you. But maybe they're not talking about that. They could be talking about anything.

They had a players-only meeting. Joe, what was the quote that you used about the players-only meeting? They had a players-only meeting just to go over. Didn't feel like they had a sense of urgency. This is something that Jalen Brunson has said earlier in the series as well. So we didn't have a sense of urgency. It's the playoffs. To come out there, come together, and actually get this thing done.

So there's nothing to talk about, dog. What? It worked. There's nothing to talk about at this point. Yeah, he should panic after. You know what I'm saying? There's nothing to talk about. I didn't panic.

Well, Boston should have. We won. Boston should have had a meeting. They should have. Okay. Really? Y'all had a meeting? You should need to be motivated. Y'all had a meeting? We had several meetings.

Just to get your shit together meeting? Sometimes it was the whole team. Sometimes it was me meeting with three or four players or Coop or Tina. But sometimes it's more about talking to a particular player or two. But that wasn't what was going on. Get your shit together. Or like, we really going to need you in this game. I did that.

To make sure you're right. I did. You don't know what that conversation was about. But I shouldn't have to tell you that this game. I did that. To make sure you're right. I did. You don't know what that conversation was about. Yeah, but if it's a player that... The states are here right now, right? We're trying to do something. This team, this franchise ain't did since 73.

Right? They ain't won a championship since 73. None of them do... Ain't nobody that was with an organization was... So we're trying to do something ain't nobody that was with an organization so we're trying to do something ain't nobody ever done but why are you so upset that they had

a team meeting? because I shouldn't have to Nick we're on a team together we made the playoffs together Nick he was ready to slap you so don't be on his side you called him a fudge n-word earlier

yeah he did slap you, so don't be on his side. You called him a fudge N-word earlier. Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did. I get what you're saying. Me ain't had no deal. Motherfucker, are you ready to play or not? Yeah. Listen. The meeting could have simply been that. They could have been in a room and somebody could have said.

Hey, if you ain't ready to play, we got seats for you. Hey, come over here. Leave your warm-up top on, motherfucker. Hey, I'm not feeling it. I ain't ready to play we got seats for you hey come over here leave your warm up top home motherfucker hey I'm not finna I ain't got time to be motivating you

right now man you went by 40 you did have a mean area guy there they were gonna play that way no matter what I think the biggest

takeaway was they just got smacked right they just got smacked on the road game for there was nothing that was needed

to be said is my point I'm making. But if you get lose by 25 the Celtics just lost Jason Tatum arguably their best player but you're going to get a 25 point. This is what we're going to do. Two things we expect. Game 5 we're going up to the win

but we're expecting them boys to play out of their fucking mind. They just lost Jason Tatum. They're going to play out of their fucking mind. They just lost Jason Taylor. They're going to play out of their mind at home because they want to give their fans a win because it might be the last time they see them. We know that. We're going up there to win, but

this is what we're expecting. It didn't go our way. We didn't lose by one. We lost by whatever it was, we didn't get it done. We definitely know what we have to do to close this thing out at home. There's nothing that I can go in there and tell if Gil is just a

man, I need you to do more. The fuck? No. We just lost. We're trying to close this thing out at home, dog. We said that shit after the game. Whatever was said after game five was all need to be said. But the aftermath of that meeting, at least, is I think we all agree, 38-point blowout win at the crib.

No matter what the point is. That was the biggest thing. Listen, the point I'm making. The panels came in. We lost in Boston. Boston came back on us. We was with the Nets. We had a fourth-quarter league up there.

They came back. We was up like 23-24. They came back and won the game. There was nothing for us to say after the game. We tricked the game off. We came back, won the next game, and the next closed them out. There's nothing for us to talk about. Man, we lost.

We know we didn't play well in the fourth quarter. There's nothing to fucking talk about here. Like, we all pros. We trying to do something. We know everything that we've done to get to this point, right? And we trying to get over this hump. We need to go talk about it? That's just me.

Maybe I'm different because there's nothing that nobody can say to me in the playoffs that was going to motivate me anymore to be playing in the next playoff game. Well, that's you. Some of them got to be motivated. That's what I'm saying. That's me. There was nothing that was more motivating than the next playoff game, right?

I agree with that. Right? And then the next round, it gets more, and then each game in the next round is more. So we're in game six trying to get to the Eastern Conference Finals. Whatever after game five should have been said, hey, I'll see you fuckers in a damn two days, bro. Let's get it done.

Right? So Swaggy, Celtics fan, Jason Tatum, Jason Tatum sent you shoes. Obviously, suffered the Achilles injury. Best friend. That is your best friend now. Championship experience, championship buddies. I'd say the biggest takeaway was Towne's

New York accent. You know, he got like... He did? Yeah, he's developing a very strong New York accent after the win. You know, it's no more, oh my gosh, it's like, yo, son, yo. You know what I'm saying? I thought it was a three, son. Yo, son, I thought it was a three.

Yo, so... But, nah, White, I feel like he showed... White showed that, you know, that's why I... And I like White, but he's not an all-star, you know. He showed the ups and downs. I feel like he got put in a situation where he's a great

role player, great corner guy. He's an Olympian. Did he win a gold medal? Great. This team, USA Squad. But, you know, when a guy like Tatum goes down and you need him to be the Olympian. When you need him to be the olympian when you need him to be olympian

a proud american that's what happens you know she said when you need him to be the olympian when you need him to be olympian and you get your ass whooping. I don't think nobody in America. There's nobody in America that was like, you know what, USA, that was a good-ass pick. Not one person. When they put him on the team, not one person was like,

oh, shit, we're about to win gold. I got a better one for you. Go around, do a poll, ask people to name the players without giving them a list. Name the players that was on this past Olympic team. Tell them to go. 100%. Unless the motherfucker's an almanac

of sport, his name would not be mentioned. And if you say one person that shouldn't have been on there, it's going to be 100% going to say the same name. I don't know what you mean by Olympian because he didn't even play out there. It's going to be 100% going to say the same thing. I don't know what you mean by Olympian because he didn't even play out there. So here's the thing. That's why I said it.

I'm thinking Hallie. I'm thinking Hallie. He's still an Olympian. Kawhi Leonard is on the team. But I don't expect Olympian status. Yeah, I'm just saying. Kawhi Leonard on the team. Kawhi Leonard gets replaced by Derek White.

When you just read that. When you replace him. But when you see that. He got that behind his knee. I agree with you. But again, like we said, when that series, when that game was over and he played one for eight, three for 11, whatever he did, ain't no reporter come up to him and say, what happened?

That was the luxury he was in. Well, actually, yeah. Is that so? He did have a post-game press conference. Oh, he did? But you don't hear about it. I never heard about it. Okay.

But let's talk more about these Knicks, give the Knicks their love. We have some Knicks fans among us who want the Knicks to get their praise. Knicks were 0-10 combined against the Cavs, Celtics, and Thunder in the regular season. And even before the Tatum injury, we're in control of the series. We talked about back-to-back comebacks with 20-point deficits to take Game 1 and 2 in the regular season. And even before the Tatum injury, we're in control of the series. We talked about back-to-back comebacks with 20-point deficits to take Game 1 and 2 in Boston, trailed by at least 14 points in each of their first three wins in this series. But, Gil, in your opinion, as our resident New York Knicks fan,

your, your, your, what changed? Well, don't say resident. I'm just visiting. Okay, but you're now embraced. No, I'm just visiting, all right? Rashad is not here today. I'm just saying I need to get mine. I don't even get the real.

You are still on a 30-day trial run. I didn't pay for the full membership yet. You are number two Knicks option. So what changed for the Knicks this postseason? Compared to what? Times passed, like I said, 0 for 10 against the top three teams in the league. You fucking think our Washington regular season, the Lakers is playing. So what changed for them in the postseason?

I don't know. I didn't see them. I just jumped on the bandwagon, sir. I just got here, right? Stop asking. That's the problem with you knickers. Y'all know that I haven't been here long enough to know everything that got going on here. All right?

Right now, all I know is two players. Brunson. Bridges. You don't know Cat. Cat. You don't know who I am? You don't know Cat. I don't know Cat.

Josh Hart. I don't know Cat. Okay? Oh, my God. I know him and his girl starting to look alike. That's all I do now. Just one has a beard. What the?

They do look alike. Wow. They do look alike. Wow. They do look alike. Yeah girl starting to look alike. That's all I do now. Just one has a beard. What the? They do look alike. Wow. They do look alike. Wow. They do look alike. Yeah, they do look alike. Gil, stop that. Yeah, they do. They do look alike.

I'm sorry. They do? It's for movies. Kat and, uh, what's his name? Ladies and gentlemen. I don't shit they got Jordan Woods on the show. I was like, that's Jordan Woods with the New York accent. I was like, that was Kat.

I was like, aw, damn. Were you impressed York Cats. That was cat. I was like, oh, damn. Were you impressed by the Knicks' ability to control these series, knowing that they went 0-4 against the Celtics regular season? No, no. Playoffs is different. It's a slower game. You got to be mindful. You can't use that regular season mindset into the playoffs.

And, I mean, for the most part, they was whooping their ass. You know, Boston was whooping their ass and showed that they were the better team. But, you know, heart is in the playoffs. You know what I mean? You need heart. You need patience. Grinding it out. And this is when playing your team and your starters,

40-plus minutes kind of help you out a little bit. I thought you were talking about Josh Hart and Precious Achua. Hold on. No, I'm just saying this is when heart matters in the playoffs. Not Josh Hart. And I think that first game where, you know, New York kind of stole it, I think it told them, like, hey, yo, they're beatable, right? You know, let's just hang around and see what we can get out of this series

because they backstabbed against the wall. Nobody, you know, nobody thought New York was going to win besides, you know, some New York fans. I feel like a large contender. But other than that, you know, when you're talking about winning the series, when you have no expectations of doing anything, it's easier to play basketball. And, you know, that's what it kind of, it showed in this series that, you know, this team is relentless.

They are winners. They showed it in college. And the same three are showing it on this level, doing whatever it takes to win for each other. The new look Nova Knicks. You talked about the, we've talked a lot about the heavy workload Knicks starters throughout the season. I remember we talked about

after that overtime a game against the Blazers, Mikael Bridges and Tibbs having a conversation saying to rely more on the bench. But how much credit do the Knicks deserve

for staying relatively healthy despite the heavy workload for their starters? They built for it. They've been playing a couple years now. They've been in a couple years now. They've been building this up. Hopefully they can continue it.

It's going to be needed. It's going to get harder. The deeper you get in the playoffs. Nothing new for them. Yeah.. But nothing new for them. Yeah, yeah. It's been working for them. Josh Hart, most minutes played this season. It's been working for him.

It's been working for him. Last year, if you're right. Ever since he's been with teams. He's had stretches where six, seven straight quarters. So if you're a medical staff everywhere else, wouldn't you be looking at this group and say, I think playing basketball a lot kind of keeps you in shape and stops you from getting as injured as all this rest that we're giving you. That's what you think?

Yes. Yes. So when I look back at you guys, there are the 80s and the 90ss and you're looking at like 82 games and they practice and they lift it they sustain their bodies and they fly and come up now you don't have training camps anymore you're not conditioning in your body you're it looks like you're barely in shape for the most part and you're sitting there trying to jump and fly and you're tweaking muscles that usually was would have been endured right it's like it's like it's like taking let's say we take a week off from running sprints and then i say all right a hundred times let's go yeah and you go out there and take off you're gonna pull something for sure

and it seems like that's what's happening with this NBA. All this downtime that they have. They're not lifting as much. They're not running as much. But when they get in a game, they still playing 100%. But do you agree with the players that say, what, 82 games is too many games? No. Somebody posted that shit the other day. I said, go ask.

Somebody asked, how did they do it? I said, go ask John Stockton. Yep. He fucking did it. For how many years? A lot of games. Consecutive years. Why do you think? Michael Jordan did it. I agree with you.

Why do you think the players feel that way? It depends on the person. They are literally the biggest. They're making the most money that anybody has ever made, and they want to play the least. No doubt.

Get the fuck out of here. They don't want to practice. They don't practice. They don't do nothing, man. Yeah. What'd you say? Did they play long back in the day? Long?

What do you mean by long? They have long 20 years. Niggas play 20 years. That's like one of them. No, if you look at all of them, they was playing 78 to 82 games. But they still... Because they lifted weights.

Their muscles... Larry Bird... Their muscles were strong. Larry Bird, Isaiah Thomas, Magic Johnson. That's what the NBA just started in. So, Gil, to your point about the Knicks medical staff, Knicks medical team has been named the NBA Athletic Training Staff of the Year.

Oh, no, they have a good one. No, they have a good one. Listen, it is the best I've encountered. They brought over Casey Smith from Dallas, who's the vice president of sports medicine. Casey over there now. Casey, he was there. I'm pretty sure.

He was on the Olympic team, right? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. That's good to hear. I'm pretty sure a few people have moved around since I was there. But when I was there, it was, there it was yeah it was real like they did some shit and was testing shit that I hadn't tested in the NBA in years right they doing shit they had a lot of the staff were from soccer clubs in

Europe mm-hmm how they go they they they not so they're sort of medicine and it's forward-thinking and you're training and're rehab and all of these things. So they were implementing this stuff in 2012, 2013 when I was with them. So I can only imagine what it is now. So it's, yeah, no, they were like that. So, yeah, they, yeah. He's just conditioning, man. Like when you're talking about the condition, you're talking about LeBron, you're talking about the condition you're talking about lebron you're talking about yannis right besides some of the freak shit of him falling on the floor

and his his tailbone shit like that you're talking about steph curry right like people we know that are very conditioned athletes right because we can see how they play like shea you're like we're you know we and it's like they sustaining. If Giannis played in the half court, he could play every game of every season. If he slowed down, because a lot of his shit, he twists an ankle, he was stepping on the motherfucking foot,

run somebody over fall, hit his back, his elbow, shit like that. If he played in the half court, he'll play every fucking game. He wouldn't miss no time. Just because he's he's built for he built his body up to be able to sustain that we were in it when I first came in training camp was a month alone yeah you a month and we doing two days for two three it was fucking hard like by that fourth, fifth practice. Fourth?

Third practice. You can't walk. You walking there that next morning for that third practice. Man, where the bucket at for my feet? You getting the early. How long are the training camps today? Four days. They doing three days of nothing. Three days and they don't even do, they don't even work out.

No two-a-days. No two-a-days. No two- even work out. No tour days. No tour days. No tour days. No tour days. And they don't really get it. It might be an optional shooting or something. No. They ain't kicking their ass for a month straight.

And it's, so. They've had eight preseason games. So those three, so those three days that we're going through and we're coming out like, ah, damn. And we trained all summer. Yeah. Right? Thinking we was ready yeah and still got barbecued so imagine you not getting barbecued in training camp you didn't really work

that hard in summer and then you got to go play full-blown basketball we rev it up though over the summer we're working out right we're working out right in september motherfucker hey september we getting ready for training camp like we make harder in September because that shit started in October. We going harder. And still, day one, two, three, we ain't ready for that shit. I'm doing bleachers. I'm doing that. Bleachers.

Who's going to say that training camp is good for you, though? What you saying? They got to say a training camp. History shows it. You said, who what? Who's to say that all that two-a-day shit good for you? Because you build up. I didn't like it. You didn't like doing it.

You're building your body up. You're building your life. I know what I'm saying. But I remember when we was playing. You didn't like two-a-day? When we lost our first fucking two games, Kobe said, why not say we lost the game in training camp? When we lost our first fucking two games, Kobe said, um, we lost the game at training camp because we was dead doing all this fucking Indian

run, so. But did y'all get hurt? I mean, we're talking about. I'm just saying, we was dead. The easy run shit? Yo, so listen, so the shit he referenced, right? Hold on, the shit that he referenced. There's nobody like this shit.

The shit that he referenced, right? Hold on. The shit that he referenced. There's nobody that like this shit. The shit that he referenced, right? The shit called Easy Run. Yeah. Uh-huh. There's some Pat Riley shit that Byron Scott stole. It is day one of training camp. I don't give a fuck what you have done all summer. The day before training camp, you could have went and ran seven miles.

It ain't preparing you for this drill. Two lines, baseline, free throw line extended, put 20, 25 minutes on the clock, whatever you're feeling like today. Two lines, motherfuckers say go. Start the clock, you jog, put your hands up, get to the end,

you defensive slide, get to the corner, back pedal, defensive slide, run, corner back pedal defensive slide run do this shit you repeat this shit for 25 minutes and your motherfucking calves

when you get done and you gotta keep your hands up here or here? here the whole time yes like the person that last oh that's a different one

oh that's a different drill that's an easy one no no no that's the end of it you gotta catch the motherfucker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then you got to do the shit with the ball. You got to do the layup drill where the ball don't touch the fucking ground.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, man. They ain't doing that. Yeah. That shit hurts. But think about how much you're getting in shape after whatever you do. Oh, no doubt. So when you're playing in a game, your body is used to this.

Yeah. You don't do nothing. Yes. And you say, all right, go out there, guard shape. You should be in the best shape. I got to guard shape. I'm going to pull my groin. I'm pulling hammies.

This is where these injuries come from. Hammies and what's that? Because you're trying to take off to catch somebody because you think your muscles is ready to fire like that. You ain't been firing like that. Watch out now. And that's what's so hard about the wmba because we didn't and don't have that type of a training camp so a lot of the new players when they come in they don't understand that let's go you you got to come in ready to go right because what training camp is

maybe a few weeks then you're playing pre-, then the season starts. So a lot of players will come in thinking, I can use training camp to get in shape. And it's like, mm-mm. Because it's go time as soon as you get there. But sometimes most of the girls play all year round, though, right?

So they don't really get out of shape. But I'm referring to like the rookies. The new ones that don't come in. But they go from college like a week later. Well, if you're playing in the tournament, right? The final four, you go straight from the final four. You got a few days off and then the draft

and then training camp. But if your season ends early, like they're taking time off. They're like, well, season's over. Do they do pre-draft workouts and stuff like that? Is that a thing? They don't do it? Get to it. So they do pre-draft workouts and stuff like that? Is that a thing? They don't do it? Wait, wait.

Get to it. So they just pick them. We watch y'all play in college. Fuck it. Let's go with it. That's what they do the entire season. If you advance far in the tournament, yeah, it's like the draft went a couple weeks after.

I'm saying, but they don't. Get to it. Here you go. Watch the tape. No, that's it. That's it. I didn't know that. All right.

That's it. So let's keep this thing moving. We got to show some love to Knicks fans. They waited for this moment for the last 25 years. Give them some smoke. Shout out, Steve. I'm sorry, Steve. Our showrunner, resident Knicks fan, been heavy in the dock,

making sure you stay on course, give the Knicks their necessary love. I didn't know before the season started that I think I picked the Knicks to win. You did. Didn't I? Yes. Okay. So it had been nearly 10,000 days since the last time the Knicks celebrated

a serious clinching win in Madison Square Garden dating back to the 1999 Eastern Conference Finals when the A.C.D. Knicks defeated the second-seeded Pacers in six games to reach the NBA Finals. And the fans took in the moment by taking over Midtown after the win. They spilled out all over.

This is them attacking the Celtics bus as it tried to leave the arena. Several middle fingers and F Boston. Damn. He was standing in front of that screen a little bit. It was pandemonium on the streets of the city united to celebrate the win. Send one last parting shot to the Celtics and their fans. That's all right. I don't know how he got up there, but shout out to that dude. Flip flops on.

With some flip flops. Flip flops, man. That is the highest tier of Caucasianry that is possible. Yeah, of course. You know black people don't like heights. Hey, we're not helping. How'd you get up there? Shut off with a beanbag.

Just hanging out So Knicks fans got to it No op was safe from ESPN's Brian Windhorse Who had no clue what was waiting for him Outside MSG Thanks to Jackson and Zach Our producers who came here to the garden tonight And are going out to humanity

I'm just walking to my hotel I'll be fine How do you feel about Boston losing I don't give a fuck How would the humanity? I'm just walking to my hotel. I'll be fine. How do you feel about Boston losing? I don't give a fuck. It's the same pussy. It's a collection now. It's a collection now. You got this big ass.

You got this big ass walking. I love it. I love it. It's a collection now. We've got it from Nick's fans. And we also got to show you this gentleman right here. He shall remain nameless. Oh, Winnie. Don't do Winnie like that. He was bold enough

to rock a Hallie jersey, proceeded to get bum-rushed by a swarm of Knicks fans, hurling trash and foul language at him before he was saved by the NYPD. So, Hallie announced earlier today on the Pat McAfee show that he's flying out that fan and a plus one

to Indy for game four. Not a wise decision to wear a Halliburton jersey on the streets McAfee show that he's flying out that fan and a plus one to Indy for game four. Not a wise decision to wear a Halliburton jersey on the streets of New York. I blame him for that. Like he literally just went in his closet like, yeah, I'm about to fuck him up the date. That is a death wish.

Throwing multiple trash bags. I can't even feel sorry for you because just come on. Nobody was dumb enough to wear a Boston Celtics jersey out there. He thought he was just going to talk trash like yeah, see y'all next round.

All the trash. They can see you outside. New York City trash bags full of rats and pee-pee hitting him. Did you say pee-pee? Rats and pee-pee. Theitting him. But Gil, you've spoken repeatedly. Did you say pee-pee? Rats and pee-pee. That's the scent of the city, if you will. Gil, you've spoken repeatedly

about how Madison Square Garden was your favorite arena to play in. You have since joined the Knicks bandwagon. Are Knicks fans getting a little too turnt up or do you respect them for celebrating their wins every chance they get? Nah, man, you got to celebrate, man. You got to let the world know who y'all really are.

Why is it great to be a Knicks player? Like, even just opposing players looking at that like, yo, I want to be a part of this. Like, they making you feel like heroes out here. Like, this ain't even the championship. 2020 Laker championship. Four niggas outside. It was a different time.

It was six feet apart. It was a curfew, but I'm just saying. Only four. Six feet apart. But I'm just saying, look at this. This is not even a championship. What happens? What happens? Do they not know that the National Security Guard is going to have to be called out

if they make it to the championship? I hope they know that they need. What? Yes. They better call the National Guard. Hey, listen, listen. If the Knicks win, be ready. Because this is what they're getting just beating Boston to get to the...

Sounds like a championship. Did you say win the Knicks win? Yeah. Girl, you're making a preemptive prediction. What is the Knicks all day? Nah, bro. Knicks are bronson. I'll be towns.

As Knicks fans like to say, we are the New York Knicks, suck our New York blanks. I'm just saying, This is what's happening. Just get in there. Well, I know the NBA need them to be in the championship. Oh, back. That is... Oh, I'm so happy. Nothing else.

Nothing else. They need them there. Yeah. Trust me. Heaven forbid this shit fall off the rails and Indiana motherfucking get this. Mm-mm. I'm telling you right. Kanye, we talked about that on our playback.

And people are going to get mad at us. Oh, y'all not real fans. Blah, blah blah blah I'm about from a viewership viewership Everybody listen every household in the state of Indiana would have to have their television on Plus one plus and have the red iPad and phone on my turn is you know ready set go and in order for that shit ratings to be what the NBA would need it to be if iPad and phone on. Everybody turn this shit off. Ready, set, go.

And in order for that shit ratings to be what the NBA would need it to be, if the Knicks don't make it. No doubt. And people, I don't, listen, watch the games, y'all. I don't know if everybody who's going to win, but they ain't in the Eastern Conference Finals for nothing. So just so you know, it ain't going to be easy. I just want y'all to know that. Came this far, might as well keep on going.

I mean, ideal. They 4-1 both series, right? Who? Indiana. They 4-1 Milwaukee, right? Milwaukee only won one, right? Yep. Indiana.

I mean, the ideal for NBA viewership is Knicks versus Timberwolves. Let me see who really won the trade. Knicks versus OKC now. Either one of them. Either one is good, though. Minnesota is a bigger market. For sure. Knicks versus either one of them.

No, I'm just talking about the ideal for just total ratings. It'd be Minnesota, then after that, obviously that. The worst ratings is OKC versus Indiana. Absolutely. That's the worst. It would have been Indiana versus Denver.

No, I'm talking about the four that's there now. Denver got a championship already. The four that's there now, the worst one is Indiana versus OKC. Denver got one, so not so bad. OKC and Indiana? You're talking about the four that they're down. The worst one is Indiana versus OKC. Denver got one, so not so bad. OKC and Indiana? You're talking about the two smallest markets. Oh, my God.

One got the smallest. They got the smallest gym shit in the NBA. Damn, you're in college too. Indiana. Indiana. Indiana's sitting at like 17,000. Shout out to Gainbridge Field. I think that's on purpose.

People have it. it's on purpose. People have to know. It's on purpose. So the way it's set up. Hey, man. No, I know it's loud. Yes. Playing the play. Absolutely.

I was on the Knicks playing Indiana in the playoffs. So trust me. In that building. Absolutely. Yeah, it's one of them. So we have celebrated the Knicks So trust me. In that building, absolutely. Yeah, it's one of them. We have celebrated the Knicks sufficiently for today. We will be celebrating them all week as they get ready to start the Eastern Conference Finals

on Wednesday. Knicks in five. It's a change. Knicks in five. Don't you feel like with all these guards that's in the finals right now, they don't shoot threes like that. The changing of the guard. They shoot threes now, they don't shoot threes like that. Like, the changing of the guard.

They shoot threes, but they don't shoot it at the clip. They all can shoot the three, they just don't chuck them like that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Who? Who, the guy that led the league in the NBA?

Oh, besides Halliburton. No, the guy that led the NBA in maintenance from three. Anthony L. Oh, Anthony. Oh, I thought he was talking about point guards. No, he said guard. But still, Ant-Man is a lot. He is

their point. Can't count. Let's shift over to the Celtics. What's so funny is he does a good balance. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They didn't put it out there that he let it in. You would think Jason Tatum shoots at least two times more than him

from three. Right? Just how it looks. So let's shift over to the Celtics. For what? X is not here. And they're done. Swaggy is... They're done for this season.

He's not a Celtics fan. He's a Jason Tatum fan. He's not a Celtics fan. Well, we're talking about the team that Jason Tatum plays on as he recovers from his Achilles injury. Josiah, it's your show. It is not. It is just 300% of our show. Do your thing, man.

Whatever you want. Do your thing, man. As I express office. Get the hell off y'all and cut them off. I'm merely a host. I know. But you see this, Swaggy. But guess what?

Direct deposit always hits by the third of the month. I didn't mean to tell you this shit, man. On time. We got a post-mortem. The Celtics probably not going to talk about it for a little bit. We'll talk about the Celtics' future in a moment. But first, let's give some love to Jalen Brown. So after the Celtics were eliminated,

Brown offered these thoughts on just what this Knicks-Celtics rivalry means. Things didn't go our way this year. And it's unfortunate. But, you know, we hold our head up regardless. Losing to the Knicks, you know, feels like death. But, you know, I was always taught that there's life after death, so we'll get ready for whatever's next. Whatever's next in the journey, I'll get ready for whatever's next in his journey. I'll be ready for it.

Before we talk, Jalen Brown, a shout out to Elijah Arena who is in the arena right now. He has risen. He has risen. What's up with it? I don't know about them, but I need to say hi. Shout out, Elijah.

Shout out to UCLA. Good to see you. UCLA, but I need to. Shout out, Elijah. Shout out to UCLA. Good to see you. UCLA for keeping you here. Take it easy on us. This thing must be popular because every time I see Cameron, he got them motherfuckers on. Looking good, feeling good. And they're so ugly. Ladies and gentlemen, he has risen.

Shout out to Elijah. Like, dude, they make pants your size. Like, them shoes, every time I see them, I'm like, yo. But let's talk Celtics. Oh, yeah. I seen KJ out yesterday. I was going to kidnap him. He told me that shit, and I told him, I'd kill everybody in L.A.

Don't kill everybody. How do you pay a ransom? He said, I'm going to call my son for ransom. I said, I'd kill everybody in L.A. He came to us. I said, come here. I helped find him. Call your daddy.

I said, call your daddy. I said, call your daddy. He got you for ransom. Soon as he said it, I said, I'd kill I helped find him. Call your daddy. I said, call your daddy. Call your daddy. I said, call your daddy. We got you friends. So what did he say? I said, I'll kill everybody in L.A. Hey, I'm going to help you find him. All right? So you can get a split?

So I can find him. He said, well, you can get a split. You got to get to work. But so after game six, it was revealed that Brown has been playing with a turn this bitch down. So after game six, it was revealed that Jalen Brown had been playing with a partially torn meniscus during the series. You respect Jalen Brown for playing with that partially torn meniscus.

Can you talk about being in playoffs? He don't need it. Okay. Go get another one. Yeah, you don't need that meniscus. No, I'm just – no, you got to respect dudes that grind it out. I could easily shut it down. Dudes don't play with less. Um he knew the severity of what

they were playing for. Um so it was throughout the playoffs. So so it was torn before the playoffs started. Partially torn before the playoffs started. At some point. So he knew he was going in. So it's either I'm gonna tear the rest of the way or I'm gonna play with this. So he knew he was going in, so it's either I'm going to tear it the rest of the way or I'm going to play with this. So he made a decision. Just showed the cloth that he's cut from and what his teammates and what. Yeah, the last part of the season, according to his.

So it didn't affect him. Yeah, it didn't. So he learned how to play with it. So he just showed what compete means to him for him to go out and even try. So for him to make it through both rounds, shout out to Jalen Brown, man. So shout out to Jalen Brown. And after the game, Derek White had this to say about the season and the future of the Celtics.

It sucks. Never getting to get this season back. I'm never going to have the exact same team again. So, obviously, there was some highs and obviously some lows of the season. But at the moment, it's just, I mean, you're just kind of down. So never going to have the exact same team again.

And on that note, Celtics were able to run it back this season with their top eight rotation players from the championship squad all returning. But now the team is looking at both the highest payroll and luxury tax bill in league history if things stay as is. If no moves are made, the Celtics will become the first team ever to have a higher luxury tax bill than actual payroll which seems unrealistic for the new ownership group which purchased the team back in March so what does the future of the Boston Celtics look like cuz it's gonna be some tough decisions made this all just said it no tough decision easy decision mm-hmm

gotta move this roster around Jack Jack. Hey, we got to get rid of some prozinguses and some... Prozinguses? Both him and his family. Come on. Move it on out. Yeah, there's going to be some moves being made up in old bean town, baby. And you think the Tatum and Brown duo stays intact? Yeah.

Yeah, I feel like. They ain't the issue. Both on Supermax deal. They're not the issue. Because you got to pace them. They're going to give them that Supermax to somebody. So they're not the issue. Yeah, I think Porzingis and Holiday,

they pay don't match their money at this point in time. Unfortunately, it's going to be this is Al Horford's last. Al Horford got another. He'll be a free agent this summer. Unless he wants to just take a real good pay cut for the team. Team friendly. Luke Cornett will be a free agent this summer. Luke Cornett, I think they'll sign him before they sign Al.

He's trying to go get a bad. I'm saying before he did here, so he can. You still got it. And how did they go? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The money. I don't know. It's the money. He making like $40 million.

He have his full spot. Yeah, so Drew Holiday, 32.4 next year. Yeah, it's the money. 35 the year after that. Thanks to Holiday. Player option for 37. Now he replaced himself. You can't replace his play, but you're going to have to replace that pay.

I feel like Brown, him, and Tatum should be the ones staying. You also have Tatum. I feel like teams of one might not buy it all. Teams of one, White, because he's cheaper, younger, and he's doing more. Yeah. But I got to get rid of my payroll. Yeah, that's the thing. I got two guys on my payroll that's making so much money that they're not doing that.

How do they make more than White? Hell yeah. Whatever you can get. We ought to do some... Listen. Hey. That's crazy. Brad Stevens

got to do some work. So you think keep Derek White, though? Obviously, Brown Tatum, Tengus Pengus. Brown Stevens. Brad Stevens got to do some work.

Jack, you went up to the front office for this reason right here. Even if this Southern squad would have won a chip this year, it would have been very hard. Still, I mean, still.

I think they were just these two years, and then I think they would have been breaking up again at the end of the season anyway. Damn. Did you guys know? The chip group coming in. Yeah. Same thing in that. $6.1 billion purchase.

You're looking at like $230,000, $240,000 in luxury tax. They've been working hard for this game, right? $230,000, $240,000 in just luxury tax. Luxury taxes. Yeah. Which would be more than the payroll. The payroll is, $240,000 in just luxury taxes. Luxury taxes. Yeah. Which would be more than the payroll. The payroll is like $227,000-ish, around about.

What is Porzingis? Pritchard off the bench, average 12. Porzingis, what injuries does he have? Has a viral infection, not really sure what it is. Oh, so it's not an injury. There are some internet conspiracies. Let me stop. I will not mention them on this show.

I will tell you off air, though, Sheryl. What happened? The people are saying. UTI but They didn't say that. No they didn't but They didn't but What happened? Hyman is not I don't know. Strap up ladies and gentlemen. Something of the sort.

What are you talking about? Who got sick? Who got sick? I was just asking what his injury was. Of course, Ingers was sick throughout the series. He had a limited amount. Did not look like himself. At points, he had trouble breathing on the quarters. They sent some bad New York work to his room. Not the quality

of the over. This is a second year. This is a second playoffs, man, that they Like, he's just there. He's just there. It's like he was not valuable for the Knicks at all last two years. And during postseason. He's just there for a shiny toy. It's for the name, bro.

Because, like, last year, they literally damn near played the whole playoffs without him. Yeah. So, let's keep it moving. So, after Boston was eliminated, a Celtics legend, Paul Pierce, posted this video congratulating the Knicks with a mix of love and hate. You know, whatever y'all did, New York is up. Pacers is going to pop y'all, though. Y'all know that, right?

Y'all know that the Pacers is going to get y'all. So I don't even want to hear all that. Like, yeah, y'all feeling good. Y'all know that the Pacers is going to get y'all. So I don't even want to hear all that. Like, yeah, y'all feeling good. Y'all beat the Celtics. Y'all beat an injured Celtics team. Y'all beat an injured Celtics team, bro. We didn't have our all-NBA player, first-team MVP candidate who led us in all these categories.

So, you know, whatever. You know, whatever. Is the truth spitting or tripping saying the Pacers are going to cook the Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals? Hey, he should do another walk. I think he is. Put it on a walk. Put it on a walk to work. Put a walk on it then. Put a on a walk. Put it on a walk to work.

Put a walk on it then. Put a walk on it. And I put a walk on the work too. Are people sleeping on this? Pacers eliminated the Knicks. If the Knicks don't win, I'll walk to work. Take my challenge. Gil has said that if the Knicks do not win

the Easter Conference Finals, he will walk to work. Consists of him walking from the third floor down to the basement of his house. Why would he take the bet now? Good, 346 feet. I thought you was talking about walking to work. That's how I ruin it. Sure, they know he taped Gil's arena. I know.

They know. He will walk to work. Gil's still late. I was just hoping he'd take that deal. I want to see him put it on in there. I get him. I feel his pain. So let's make a wager.

I know you. I really feel his pain. That was hurt. He was hurt. Yeah. If the Pacers win, Gil will walk to work. If the Knicks win, you have to walk to work again. He will hold her hand, too.

And what? Hold her hand, too. He said walk to work. Walk to work, but you can walk to work with the work. I heard you. Hold her hand, too. Wild times here in the arena. But let's keep it moving.

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will thank you for supporting Manscaped. Let's move over to the Western Conference. Nuggets kept their season alive with a Game 6 win paced by Nikola Jokic's 29 points, 14 rebounds, and 9 dimes, with Jamal Murray fighting through an illness to have something like a flu game, finishing with 25 eight boards and 7 assists, while Christian Brown and Julian Strother

put up playoff career highs with 23 and 15 points respectively as the Nuggets forced Game 7 against the top team in the NBA. But the win came at a price as Aaron Gordon suffered a grade 2 hamstring strain that would sideline him for at least a month if this was a regular season, but Gordon decided to tough it out. Denver was playing in the 10th Game 7 in franchise history and entered the matchup 5-4 all-time, going 0-2 on the road. But since 2021, home teams have a record of 5-9 in Game 7.

And in the final round of a heavyweight clash between the league's top two players this season, SGA showed why he's the real MVP. Let's take a look at the highlights. So the extender Scott Foster was on hand, which was a cause for concern initially. As he nuggets through the first punch jumping out to a 21-10 lead to start the first quarter with the Thunder struggling to put the ball in the bucket OKC missed 10 of their first 15 shots going 0 for 5 from beyond the arc in that span but found their rhythm and finished the frame on an 11 to 5 run they made it 13 straight points in the

beginning of the second quarter with an 8-0 run while Jokic was on the bench. So after going 3-for-16 from the field in Game 6 and 10-of-43 in the previous three games combined, Jalen Williams broke out of his slump, dropping 17 points in the second quarter alone, finishing the game with 24 points, 7 assists, 5 rebounds on 10-of-17 shooting. Thunder went on another 18-to-5 run at the end of the second quarter, outscoring Denver 39- 39-20 in the period. Thanks in large part to players like that. We see Jay Dub doing his thing.

So Thunder had a 14-point lead in the break. They also show why they are the top-ranked defense in the league this season, forcing 12 Nuggets turnovers in the first half and 23 in the game, scoring 37 points off of those turnovers. So OKC picked up right where they left off in the second half, starting the third quarter with a 13-2 run. Like I said, doing their thing, you see Caruso, Deboing, Jalen Williams doing his thing 17 points in the second quarter As I mentioned

So third quarter Orchid C picked up right where they left off 13-2 run Included Kaysen Wallace catching Jokic slipping And yamping on him You see it SGA was sensational in this one Leading the Thunder with 35 points on 12 of 19 shooting 3 for 4 from 3 8 for nine from the free throw line.

It was a 730-point game this postseason, which leads all players. They also had four assists and three steals. Ted Holmgren had 13 and 11 rebounds. Alex Caruso brought his championship experience off the bench, 11 points, three steals. Big on the defensive end as well, holding the Joker to 20 points, 9 rebounds, 7 assists, and 5 turnovers. Joker only took 9 shots in the game. Just the second time in his playoff career through the 10 field goal attempts. Wow.

Yeah, so Cheryl just asked me, was Caruso really guarding? No, was he really? And I said, I was going to talk about, yo. Yes, Cheryl. He was guarding that man. For one, he was making it hard for him to catch the ball. He was doing his work early. He was fronting him and making him play early and fast

and challenging his catches. And I just found it alarming that I don't expect Alderman. This is first. He's 20 games, not even 20 games into his coaching career, right? So hard to blame him. But you got this guy like you trying to, it was one play they came out of a timeout and he specifically called a cross screen for Nikola.

And they could not get the ball to Nikola on the cross screen. Drew a play up, ATO, and Alex Cruz refused to get screened. And that said a lot to me in that moment. Like, y'all, ATO, y'all can't get this man the ball? It just said

a lot about the play and the way it was going. And it was consistent though, right? But that's crazy. Chet would be on him and it'll be a pick and it'll be an opportunity to switch back and he would go switch back. Like he'll make sure that he was on him. And I was like, yo, he is really taking this challenge and the refs were letting him play. They was letting him bother. It was letting him get into him and, and he frustrated. And the fact that the one game was a game two, a game three, the game he got, he fouled out on purpose.

I'm joking with you. Yeah. It was that. It was more of that, right? You just climb, just being a pest to him. Yeah. And once he knows it bothers you, I'm going to take it to the next level. And that's what Caruso did.

He just took it to the, that annoyance, just took it to the next level. And that's what Caruso did. He just took it to the, that annoyance, just took it to the next level. Shout out to Alex Caruso, man. So, OKC led by as much as 43 points in the second half. With over nine minutes remaining in the fourth quarter, Nuggets head coach David Adelman pulled his starter. It was the Thunders' third win this postseason by 30 or more points.

Tied for the most in league history for a single playoffs. So, Thunder advanced to their first conference final since 2016 take on my other team in the West baby so after the game after the game Chet Holmgren reminded everyone exactly who runs the show in OKC and in the league you know who this is? the MVP look at that you know who this is? The MVP. Yeah. Look at that.

Do you know who this is? None of you are ready to crib. Already acting crazy. So what statement did SGA and the Thunder make by dominating Denver like this in game seven to advance to the Western Conference Final? No statement, man. Man, that was a statement. It was number one for a reason.

Yeah. Oh, that one team. That's what we're rolling with? Nah, nobody believed OKC was going to win. So we're going to pretend like we were just all rolling with OKC. Keep it real. Nobody. Come on, man.

They're too young. That's all we was hearing in the beginning. They're too young. I don't have faith. They're too young. They're too young. I don't trust their second option. That's all I heard on this damn couch. And joke of this,

joke of that, he gonna have one of those 50 point games. That's all you heard on this couch? Oh my God. He got his ass whooped by 50. Who you heard that from? Just on the couch. Right now? I got my OKC jersey. It's just two, but you wasn't here. It was just two. You don't say me.

What the fuck you talking about? I wasn't here. Three. Don't say no three. We're L two, but you wasn't here. It was just two. You don't say me. What the fuck are you talking about? I wasn't here. Three. Don't say no three. What? Laker fans. We don't know. No, no. You were talking about Jalen Williams and shit.

No, no, no, no. No, that didn't have nothing to do with this team. Yes, it is. They too young. That's what you said. I didn't say nothing about this team. There were discussions about the Thunders and experience. Nobody said nothing about no goddamn Denver Nuggets.

I ain't like Denver Nuggets since Kobe didn't like Denver Nuggets. Why didn't you like Denver? Swaggy, we did. It's OKC right here, baby. That's what I'm talking about. We did smoke the Michael Malone pack. It has an extension in the Nuggets pack. They kept looking at the ref like this.

Wow. I didn't like his... I didn I said, I didn't like his, I didn't like, but I didn't like Jokic's behavior. The game they came back, before that beginning of that fourth quarter, when he was sitting there doing this the whole time,

whining and stuff, I was like, man, if anybody else was doing that, man, they'd be killing him in the media. He's been here walking down, doing this, while he in the game, they can't give me the ball. That's all he was doing. Then they end up coming back and winning.

Nobody talks about it. That's crazy. Wow. Man, they got their ass with good. Yeah. Oklahoma City is a better team. I'm sorry. Oklahoma City is a better team than Denver. They have more pieces.

Deeper bench. Not surprising. The most surprising thing, it went to seven. That's the most surprising thing. You think so? Yeah. Absolutely. Michael Porter hurt.

Limited. Is he hurt? Fucking shoulders. AC. AC Jordan. He needs surgery on his shoulder. He hurt. But they had the best player in the world by many people.

Jamal Murray was limited. He ill. They put inside. So Oklahoma City is a better team. Yeah. He yielded. They put inside. So Oklahoma City is a better team. You can see how bad it is when the team can't shoot. Like when the team really can't shoot the ball from the outside. Like, Yoka's just playing one-on-five for the most part. Like you can see.

Like even, like there was times where I was like, yo, why you not giving him a target? He's so used to, you know see, like, even, like, there was times where I was like, yo, why you not giving him a target? He's so used to, you know, doing this and then just getting the pass, and it's like,

nah, man, that ain't working here. And you're trying to hit a moving target, right? Once he gets moving one way, you let him

get stationary. They're trying to hit a moving target and Caruso, motherfucking, playing game, I'm here, I'm not. You throw the ball, I'm going to beat you to it. They're trying to hit a move and talking to Caruso, motherfucking playing game. I'm here, I'm not. You throw the ball, I'm going to beat you to it

because you're trying to feel my body and I'm not giving you that opportunity, right? There's certain dudes, you got to play them mind games and he was doing a good job. That was a smart game plan when you think about it because how Jokic plays, him playing against Big, right? Getting doing all this with his little body, keeping him pushed out, and they can't

contest. Now you got to sit there and play with the little. You got to you can't throw too much energy to him because he might flop. So now you're sitting there dodging, and then the big man is behind him. Now you got two big men behind him. Like you were saying, the Knicks didn't need

like a team meeting. You're trying to make it to the finals. They don't need no team meeting. No, I'm talking about Jokic right now. There is no way in hell, Caruso, you should let Caruso defend you. I dig it. He does have championship experience. I don't care.

He had Black Lives Matter on the back of his Lakers jersey. I still don't care. I was thinking the same thing. I'm just telling you. It was a good, different brief. That's an MVP candidate. I was thinking the same thing, but I watched. Listen, I was thinking the same thing. But it was a good point.

It is exactly how I would defend the Colts, right? You got to play mind games with him. You got to, listen, you got to be on one side and fake and go to the other side. The ball in the air, you gotta, he hold the ball up here, you gotta reach for it. You gotta do all that shit because once you get it, he's too good. I know.

It was the perfect. There was nothing you can do. Shit. You got two bigs on one side. Because what it did, by putting Caruso on it, it stopped him from putting the ball on the ground, doing all of this, driving by. It stopped that whole part of the game. So now he just wants to post up.

But he didn't, though. Now he's got to play this mid-post type of game. Where they give him the ball at. They give him the ball, and you got Caruso on him. Of course he's going to have to put the ball up. He got to put the ball on the cross. He catching the ball at the three-point line with Caruso on him. He does, but get your big ass on the block.

Now the dribbling goal up ain't so cool no more. Yeah, because I got a guard now. I can pick the ball up on another big man. So you can't do shit with people playing defense on you, baby. That's why he should have his big ass on the block. You got Caruso defending you. They front you. Aaron Gordon, you flash your ass up.

If they're going to front him, because the big one has to come up to which because you're shooting the ball well. That's what they didn't do. They didn't do that. I'm fronting them with a little because I know I got two seven-footers back there, which is different. I got two seven-footers back there. You're supposed to flash.

You're supposed to flash the guy, Aaron Gordon, up at the top. I agree with you. You can't really blame the coach going up at the top. And so I agree with you. Okay, you can't really blame the coach. Oh my God, we blaming him. Yeah, but as a play. All this three times. You have to get the bucket. How are you going to get the bucket?

I'm not playing against Caruso. I'm not playing against Caruso. I'm playing against the two seven-footers back there. Caruso is the one that's irritating me, and he's trying to make me pick up the ball. That's what I'm saying. The seven-footer is the one I'm trying to shoot over. I can shoot over Caruso, but I got to get into a situation like

they got me at the three-point line. I don't want to shoot for the three-point line. Hey, run the clip from the game, please. I don't want to shoot at the three-point line, so now I got to try to get there. I'm sitting here doing this. He's playing like this. By the time I go to pull up, now the seven-footer's here. Yeah, run the game. I don't want to shoot at the three-pointer. I got to try to get there. I'm sitting here doing this. He's playing like this. By the time I go to pull up, not a seven-footer's here.

Yeah, run the clip and win a three-time MVP. It was a perfect game plan because it wasn't right. See, he can do that against a seven-footer because a seven-footer's guarding him. He's going to put the body on him. That's easy. That's easy for him.

It's going to get the and one. That's easier for him. He's still away from the basket on all them plays. He's still away from the basket, right? And where the Crusoe can guard him. Just watch when he has the ball. Yeah. Stop it. Stop it.

Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Stop it. Locking him up. See where he gets. See you. Listen. So. See where he can see you. Listen. So, so you see where he has to dribble the ball from against this guy? Low man win. He can only, he can only put, he can

only push so far and then watch when he gets close enough. Look what's helping. Look, look who coming over. He just so have a bad angle. Caruso making him look. See the seven footers behind him. He's making him spin that way. I did that all too. But that's what I'm saying. But he's a did that all too. Chet took a bad angle. Yeah. Chet took a bad angle. I'm making him come two by seven-footer versus him just beating up the seven-footer, shooting over me.

Look, once again. We're just inverting it. Look, we're just inverting him because I know with me, he's going to drive by me and shoot over. He's going to drive by the big and shoot over me. Now, I want him to fight with the guard and then try to drive by the big and shoot over me. Now I want him to fight with the guard and then try to shoot over the big foot. But why didn't he go post him on the block?

Y'all looking at a difference. Huh? No, I'm saying, so why didn't he just go post him on the block? He's going to try. But they didn't play it. But you got to remember... And that's the easy. You post him and just turn and shoot. You ain't going nowhere.

No, the seven-footer's there. They didn't play it right. They didn't play it right. They was not expecting this. They didn't play it right. They didn't play it right. So therefore, listen. Like you would think, like I'm going to just shoot over you.

You're going home. The experience comes with the coaching. The experience comes with us being successful doing it a certain way. And when that way is not working anymore, we don't know how to make the necessary adjustments on the fly without the coaching. Clearly, because there's no way. There's no way. Who did that?

I forgot what you did. I'm giving what a team did to LeBron. I'm giving a team that did that to LeBron. They put Rondo on him, right? So instead of putting Paul Pierce on him, they put Rondo on him. What ended up happening is

because LeBron couldn't dribble on Rondo like that because he's going to sit there, they started doing the free throw line. So he cut out the is it, sit at the free throw line. So he cut out the whole offense, sit at the free throw line, and what Bron going to try to do? Pound it, pound it, pound it.

By the time he turned around, now KG and Bigfella's there. Because he's not going to turn and just shoot over him. Why? Why not? It wasn't his shot. That's not his shot.

But that's Joker's shot. That's not Joker's shot. Joker's fade away. Do that shit every time. I got to bounce it first. I got to bounce it first. Because where I'm catching it at. That's on you. That's on you. If you can't post this little motherfucker up, that's not on

the coach or nobody else. You get no position on the little motherfucker. Come on, Gil. You know that. Obviously, he's a three-time MVP. He's getting a position on everybody else who's helping everybody else out. This was a different matchup. He dribbles up the court. He's the best dribbler passer.

All this shit with that guy. People try to tell me that J.J. Barea locked LeBron up, so Junker's got to raise him. Yeah, J.J. They did it. J.J. did it with a par. So Junker's going to get this shit right now, too. Stop that motherfucker from dribbling the full court.

I'm going to put a guard on him. He's going to cut out all that. He's going to go to an office that he's not used to. I'm going to put a guard on him. He's going to cut out all that. He's going to go to an office that he's not used to. I'm going to try to post up. LeBron is a guard forward. But now what I'm saying is, LeBron Hounder ain't like that. They'll get past Beret and them. That's what they did.

They just, they're inverting. I'm going to put my guard up there, try to tire him out, and then have my bigs protect the basket versus my bigs trying to guard him and my guards protecting the basket because once once he once he gets to the lane I can't do nothing don't get the bigs in foul trouble yeah they plan them they're trying to guard him one-on-one he gonna get them in foul trouble so it was smart coach man I take away all his moment

because if he got the guard because the this. What did you say again? He's gonna fall out. You sit there and boom. When it's in the wrong way, it's a charge. Why? Well, right here, turn around. In that game, he don't want to play. Catch it. Turn, face up. That's not his game.

That's what he should have did. That's what he should have did. Turn. He should have did that. He had little baby hooks all day. The seven-footers is back there. He don't have a baby hook? No, the seven-footers is back there.

What are you doing seven-footers all the time. He don't have a baby hook? No, the seven-footers is back there. What are they doing? Seven-footers all the time. He can't get a baby hook. So what they was doing was they was making him go. They made him play left. So he made it, but they was making him turn over his right shoulder. So he was having to come here with it. So when he turned, the big is coming. The big is coming.

Caruso, when he is dribbling it, he is playing him to make him go this way. So once he turns, the big is there. So yes, he can get to it, but that's not his money move. And Caruso did an excellent job at following the game plan. He's going to

score because he's too good. He's going to do these things, but do your best to make him spin back the other way. Stay between him and the basket. The best you can, if he does catch good. He's going to do these things, but do your best to make him spin back the other way. Stay between him and the basket as best you can if he does catch it. But they didn't like for him to be able to dribble the ball from the three-point line on Caruso did him a disservice.

Why do you have him at the three-point line? Because that was their offense. Yeah, but with Caruso on you. Now think about it. They said Joker was coaching. Now I'm going to throw away all of my offense to try to take away Caruso on you. Now think about it. They said Joker was coaching. Now I'm going to throw away all of my offense to try to take away Caruso, which is OKC. They get my star in the ball.

I don't need to pick and roll no more for all of that. They get my star in the ball. I'm the coach. I'm the star in everything. Now that's what's in the badminton. Everybody's sitting there trying to feed them the ball. You took away your whole offense. So let's talk a little bit more about your offense.

You take advantage of me. That's not the offense. Best player in the world average of triple-double this season. What did you say? Best player in the world? That's what people say. Best player in the world average of triple-double this season. Struggled in game seven. Had three straight games this series where he shot under 40%

from the field. Appeared overly fatigued at times. Still averaged 28 points, 14 rebounds, 6 assists on 48, 33, 81 splits, but also averaged nearly 4.5 turnovers per game. Joker now 1-6 all-time versus 50 win teams in the playoffs. His only win coming against the Clippers in the first round this season. You said him or Denver? His teams.

Okay. Denver. Same thing we would do with other great players. No, Denver. Guess said him or Denver? His teams. Okay. Denver. Same thing we would do with other great players. No, Denver. Guess what, Josiah? Don't nobody give a fuck. That man got a championship.

I'm just being blatantly honest. And three MVPs. I'm just being blatantly honest, bro. Like, who gives 50-win teams, 12-win teams, 50-14? Who gives a fuck? These are metrics. The man got a championship. And three MVPs. Who gives 50-win teams, 12-win teams, 50-14? Who gives them? These are metrics. The man's got a championship.

And three MVPs. So, yeah, cool, great stats, great numbers. Good research. So you're saying if there was no team out there and he was playing one-on-one, he ain't going to score on Caruso? He can't score on Caruso. He ain't going to score on Caruso. So you take the rest away, the whole team, and say, all right,

you two play one-on-one. If he ain't got Harden signing, kick back. He's the whole team. God damn. Y'all say he's the whole team. Y'all say he's the whole team. Stop acting like that. You say he's the whole team.

You're arguing for no reason. The Nuggets, we just said, is a great-ass team. It was a great scheme. Yes. A great scheme to put a little guard on the center. Great game. All the time, the best center. Every time somebody has done it, it actually worked.

Because they wasn't expecting it. It's a great scheme when the other team can't adjust to what they're doing. Yes, yes, yes. It's great coaching. It's a great scheme to put a little guard on the center. No, I mean, shit. What OKC did, it worked. So that's up to Denver to figure that shit out

and change whatever they're doing. If Denver wins this series, we're giving Yoko just praise. But they didn't win it, so it don't matter. So give OKC their praise. You're talking about what they would have done. That young team that we speak of. They followed the game. They won.

Let's give them their credit. OKC for life. And I was watching it in real time. I'm so happy they moved Joker ass. Like you pointed out earlier. I'm so happy they whooped Joker ass. Like you pointed out earlier. I'm so happy they whooped Joker ass. Like you pointed out earlier in the segment, many people felt like the Thunder's lack of playoff experience

would hurt them this postseason. Didn't really believe in the squad. Are the Thunder proven they are a championship level team? For sure. There's a lot of elements. Just waiting for the MVP to see who wins and shit like that. A lot of stuff. We won it already, man.

I know. After I said this, to see who wins. Don't say we won it already. You didn't believe me. We won already, man. We got the OK. We got the trophy. It's already down in OKC, man.

It's already down there. They got his name on everything. Shit. Shit. Bust their ass. You ain't messing with me. MVP watch Bust their ass. Nick, what about the MVP watch? Huh? Nah.

Nah, they already gave it to the young boy. With that in mind, It's acting on character. Leak still hasn't announced the MVP. He's supposed to be doing that today. Where's Shams at? Shams, hurry up! Which led many, including John Morant and Bones Highland,

to believe they were waiting for the series to end first. The series has now ended. Did S.J. prove he's the most valuable player in the league right now? No. Yeah. The team is better. Fuck. The team is not better, bro.

The team is better than Denver's team. Oh, my God. Top to bottom. Now he's a team better. Absolutely. I love's a team better. Absolutely. I love this shit, boy. From top to bottom, Oklahoma City has a better team than the Denver Nuggets. I don't know.

They got the best road players in the game. They got the best road players in the game. Has the better roster. Oh, shit. Hold on. Somebody said Gil said they had a 0% chance. Man, shut the fuck up. You know what team I'm on? OKC

all day, baby. OKC. You did say 0%. Because the Lakers were still in it. The Lakers were still there. This was before the playoffs. This was before the playoffs. This was when my... Because I'm thinking about the Lakers. If I got the Lakers winning the championship, that means they have a 0% chance.

This was before the season. Yes. Before they played each other. Yes. No, this is recently. This is recent. That's what I'm saying. This is when they passed up.

This is when the Lakers. No, but you said. Because if I got my Lakers winning the championship, that means they got a 0% chance. Once my Lakers lost, it went all up. The percentage is gone. That's what he said. My team went out, then the percentage got to get changed. The percentage is adjusted.

He was out there. That's all he said. Somebody, everybody give me a ride. Everybody give me a ride. The bandwagon went by. He grabbed on the back of that motherfucker when he was going by. I can't help it if going by. I told him.

I can't help it if they nice. I can't help it if they nice. He just allowed me to come in. He saw it coming and started running. You said this when they lost that game by two, but they was doing that dumb foul shit. The young shit show. That's why I don't believe you. Yeah, but I didn't say they had a zero percent chance.

Daylon Williams, all this shit. I'm not going to let you do that. The zero percent chance came from the Lakers. The Lakers are no longer in the playoffs. What percent chance do you feel like the Thunder have now to win a championship? Thank you. I'll give you that one. Huh? Lakers are no longer in the playoffs.

What percent chance do you feel like the Thunder have now? 100? Wait, wait, no. No, sorry. Damn. 50% OKC, 50% Knicks. Either way, I'm winning a championship this year. I can fuck with nobody.

I'm winning a championship this year. Indiana can fuck with nobody. I'm winning the championship this year. It's going to be Indiana, Minnesota. Then I'm going with Indiana. I'm going with Indiana. It's going to be Indiana, Minnesota. And then if Minnesota won, I'm going to have my Ant-Man's on just in case. Because you picked them two. It's going to be those two.

I'm going with Ant-Man. Ant-Man, leave me the fuck alone, man. I got to win. Whatever he picked, they always look at it. I got to win a championship this year, man. You have the liner. It's okay to bandwagon, Jim, just a little bit. The smoke crack, don't you?

I don't have to. Huh? You can't bandwagon on two teams. No, one's in the East, one is in the West. This is Gil's Arena. We are very fluid with our rules. Pick one. Yeah.

Come on, pick one. See what we can do. Huh? Pick one. Yeah. Come on, pick one. See what we're going to do. Let's see. Let's pick one. Just pick one? No, pick two. You can pick one on the West, one on the East. I did. I did that. Oh, is he in New York then? No, you've got to pick one team to win it all.

All right, right now, do what she says. There's four teams remaining in the playoffs. Which one of those four teams? You got to ride with them. You have to ride with them for the duration of the postseason and you have to take your L if said team does not either reach the finals or win in said finals.

See, if I pick OKC, that means I don't have the Knicks. That means McKenzie gets to argue with me for no reason. That's what it means. You don't really want to pick the Knicks. I'm going to take sanity then. I'm going to take the Knicks.

I'm going to take the Knicks and then I'll worry about when we get to the championship. You'll deal with the letter. And you know who you got? Nobody? Nobody? Nick? Non-denominational. Lakers 2026.

I feel like OKC. OK, 2026. I appreciate that. We asked the chat. I don't trust the Knicks. I don't like nobody. I don't trust. They've been down in fucking every game they've played in, man.

They've been down 20 fucking every game they've played in, man. They've been down 20, 15, here's 14. Well, they've won. They have. When the stakes get higher, every team's not going to fold. That's all I'm saying. I said if they get down in this next series, I don't think their team's going to fold because of that coach they have over there. I trust Rick Carlisle

like a motherfucker. Because Rick Carlisle will sit your ass down. He will call a timeout. He will burn all the motherfuckers. Before y'all blow this lead, I will burn every single one of them motherfuckers. Hey, hey. For real. You won't do it and say,

I'm with the coaching, damn it. Listen. I'm a let it, damn it. Listen. I'm going to let it get to seven. Shit. They're the second youngest. This is the youngest team in the NBA right now. Who? OKC.

That's still in it? Yeah. Or just overall? Just overall. No, no. I mean, still in. They're the second youngest, right, in the NBA this year? Yeah. After Houston? Yeah. After Houston?

Yeah. Or youngest. If they win the championship, which looks like is going to probably happen, it sets a new standard that all this young shit and y'all have a team for one or two years and you get rid of them, it shows that they can win. I think they entered the season as the youngest team in the NBA. So this is what they have that other teams don't. They have a guy that does his fucking job very well in Sam Preston, right?

And whoever their scouts are, whoever they work up under him, they bring that information back to this man, and they've had the luxury of having other people's picks. They've had great picks. But doing the homework with it, though, right? Not just having the picks and picking somebody because they have a name or they play well here or they was good in high school, no shit like that. They're picking people that actually fit what they're trying to do.

Like, they put their shit together. And through free agency, Adden, Caruso, and Hardenstein, and things like that, it fits. So he's doing his job well. Other teams don't fucking have it. Is this the... Fucking idiots in the front office? I don't know.

Just history besides, like, obviously, like, the Lakers, Boston, probably Lakers and Boston. Do OKC have a legacy of, like, guard play? It's becoming that. Yeah. If you think about all of it, they got three MVPs.

And even going back to the Sonics time as well. Fuck the Sonics. We're talking about just this group. They've been in Oklahoma City. You're talking about this is going to be their third MVP. Plus you had Paul George. And you had Melo. And you had Melo.

And you had James Harden, which was y'all's, too. Now you got Shea. Like, you, this is some fucking. And the guards they got on the bench, too. This is some great-ass fucking picks y'all done had. Doing their job, man. But another thing I want to ask is, what if Ant-Man win? They evaluate talent, man.

Shout out to Ant-Man. Will he become the top three? I didn't pick him yet. Shooter guard, though? I didn't pick him. If he win this young, will you put him up there? What? Ant-Man.

In the game right now? In the game right now? Will he become top five if he win now? Nick, we're not... Shut up, Nick. Not five. Nick is 23. But he got no all-star on his team. Julius Randle is an all-star.

What? Not this year. Not this year, but Julius Randle is a multi-all-star. Did you know? And Rudy Goldberg is a multi-all-star. Come on, you're saying Goldberg now. Stop, bro. The nigga's the first ballot hall of famer.

All right, now I'm going to put Goldberg in there. If Rudy Goldberg retires right now, he is first ballot. If Ed Payne win the ring, you put him over Harden? If Rudy Goldberg falls right now, he is a first ballot. But Gary, the same for the championship. You said, did you just say top five all time? All time what? Minnesota history?

True God. In Minnesota history? Nah, it ain't going to stop there. In Minnesota history... We can only go off of what he has right now. Well, shit. Ain't nobody did it like that. Jordan didn't do it. All he has is three All-Stars and one All-NBA.

What? He ain't got no top 75 players on his team. He ain't got Shaq. He ain't got Pippen. If he wins the championship right now... He ain't got no top 75. He ain't got no top 75. If he wins the championship right now... He ain't got no top 75....so you can get somebody to engage with you with that. He ain't got no top 75.

What I'm saying is if he wins the championship right now and the finals MVP and he don't play another game, he is not a Hall of Famer. Oh, you don't know. Who, Anthony Edwards? Yeah, he's only been in the league four years, though, five years. The fuck is... He has three All-Stars and one All-NBA. That's it.

That's his stat. He's trending in that direction for being such a good player. I'm talking about right now. We stop it right now. Today. And he wins. I'll even give him the end of the season. A championship. And a championship. He'll have three All-Stars,

two All-NBAs, a championship of five. He's still not a first ballot Hall of Famer. Y'all think about it. He's only been in the league. He's young. He's 23 years old. That's what I'm saying. Who's done that? I'm talking about he's only 23. Who's done that? Who's done that? Done what?

What he's doing? What has he done? He hasn't done nothing yet. If I said if he win, who done it? Jordan didn't do it. Kobe didn't do it. If he win, he's not even a Hall of Famer? He's not even a first ballot Hall of Famer to even be in the category. What he's done?

I'm not saying he's done it already. If. By Tatum? Tatum was a three-time, Tatum was a three-time, four-time All-Star, four-time All-NBA player. Meaning he was a top ten player four times by that age. Magic Johnson, what the fuck are we talking about?

Hey, Nick, you sound like somebody that didn't play in the NBA and watch basketball. All right. You sound like somebody that just told you about the sport. All right, I'm just saying. Nobody in his position did that. Did what? If he wins. If he wins.

He has 9,000 total points. 9,000. Without a top 75, you're acting like he's been in the league. He has 9,000 total points. What are we talking about? He's young. So we're going to take his resume and say he's top five with this. And you got motherfuckers who's been waiting with 44,000 points.

Those motherfuckers, y'all keep trying to hope to win one. Y'all criticize Harden every fucking time. Nobody criticize Harden. Everybody do. What are you talking about? You're trying to put him in front of Harden. Anthony Edwards is not better than fucking Ray Allen.

At this point in time. At fucking no point. I don't give a fuck when you line them up. So 10 years from now. Ray Allen. Yeah. Athleticism, shooting, ball handling as a fucking basketball player. Coming out of UConn, his entire career, Ray Allen was a number one on his fucking team.

Don't get it twisted. Who's a better actor? Who? Who's a better actor? Actor? He got game or hustle. Or hustle. Hustle better actor? Who? Who's a better actor? Actor? He got game or hustle. Or hustle. Hustle.

What is hustle? It's a film on Netflix. Oh, I... Okay. Who's in it? Adam Sandler. Huh? Ant-Man.

Or Barry. Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler's in it? Yeah. Yeah, the film one. Very quality. We're not going to compare it to... Herman Wiltz.

But we're not going to compare it to He Got Game, but... Okay. Yeah, Nick, he's not. No. All right, so let's keep this thing moving. So before Jalen Brunson became the King of New York, that title belonged to Trey Young.

With Ice Trey still getting hit, with the F. Trey Young chance to spite his Hawk Squad not being in playoff contention. So Trey went to high school and college in Oklahoma in a suburb of Oklahoma City. Had this to say about how the atmosphere in Madison Square Garden compares to the Paycom Center. Trey said, I take but not.

OKC fans are louder than Knicks fans. Happy Sunday. Hold on. And the others ain't better than Clyde Drexel. That's my guy. Huh? And Clyde ain't better. I like Clyde.

You know what I'm saying? When you're doing it, you're not letting him finish his career. You're trying to judge everybody's career with his four years. He's just doing something nobody does. If he wins a championship this year, he still ain't betting Clyde Drake. You still got to finish your career. He up there, man. You got to finish your career off.

You're not even giving a chance to finish your career. Ray was like that, man. He doing shit before people do that. I better stop disrespecting Jesus. Doing stuff nobody else does. No disrespect for Jesus here at Gil's Arena presented by $100. When did they crown Jordan the best player ever? Gil Beck?

Oh, Jesus Shuttlesworth, baby. Or Jesus Shuttlesworth. The best player ever? Or Jake Shuttlesworth. Or the best player ever. Who, what? When did they crown Jordan the best player ever? 89-90.

No championships. Thank you. So what is... Three scoring titles. So scoring titles is more important than winning the championship? Actually, for the voters, your individual accolade is better than a team award.

He hasn't done it yet. A team award. You want the team award to be so great when you're letting us know the team award ain't shit. The goal is to win the championship. No, that is a goal as a group, but it doesn't work for everybody.

Then tell me why they're not giving... You gotta go push the ground. Alright, how about this? Then tell me where this man is ranked. If Anthony Edwards wins the championship this year, he said he would be top five of all time as shoe guard. Alright, how about this?

Really? Can you tell me where this person is ranked in history? I'm saying, did he do something nobody else did? Okay, how about this? If he did it without

a top 75 player. Seven-time All-Star. You ready? Seven-time All-Star. Steel's champ. Six-time NBA champ. Seven-time All-NBA. Ten-time All-Defensive.

All-Star MVP. And he's a top 75 player. Where do you think he's ranked? Damn. But he's top of that where he should be ranked. That's a shooting goal. What did you want to try to get? Seven-time all-star.

Seven-time all-NBA. He's a six-time NBA champion. I asked you when did they crown Jordan the best player. Where do you rank him? I didn't hear that part. Who is that? Scottie Pippen. Scottie Pippen?

Yeah, I didn't hear that part. I missed that one. He's an afterthought in NBA. They got him ranked third. Oh, he's not an afterthought. When he won his first race. He's a top 75 player. He's a top 75 player.

And you're saying you want to give somebody a top five shooting guard if he won one championship. Carry on. Six. Without somebody that's in the top five. He would do it. And you just said they crowned Jordan the greatest player ever in 89.

Yes, he is. That's four years, right? You want to give him top five off of one. This nigga's not top 30 off of six. Nick, you can't do that. How I can't do that? So wait, wait.

Y'all can make somebody the greatest player ever. No, you can. And I can't say that. No, you're right. You can. You can. You can say whatever you want. No, you did say that.

I did. And I'm going to stand on it. You can. It's the fact that you did say that. I did. I'm going to stand on it. I'm going to stand on it. Stand on what? You can't make an argument over if, Nick. What they did. Nick, you do realize it didn't happen, right? If.

What question for you? You do realize it didn't happen. You're arguing with me because I said if it happened. I'm not arguing with you at all over if. I refuse to argue with them over a fucking if. It didn't happen. So my question was you realize it didn't happen yet and might not happen. I just hate when you use a team award to try to make that jump over people's careers.

What team? What's the goal? I know what the goal is as a group. But you can't use that to pretend that he done did all this better than everybody else because they didn't win. You never won and you even got close to it. So you don't understand that. No, I do understand. I'm looking at history.

I'm watching the contradiction through history. I'm watching how you treat Klay Thompson. Is he better than Klay then? Klay got four. Will you put him in front of Klay with four? He got one. Oh, my God. Say yes.

Say yes so you can contradict it again. Klay has four as a shooting guard. Are you going to put Anthony Edwards in front of Klay? Who was the main star of that team? I didn't ask you that. I forgot him. Yeah. Klay Thompson?

Oh, yeah. I did, too. Yes. That's why when they use rings, I pull out people who got them, motherfuckers. And then, obviously, they want to use...

Oh, is he the number one player? Oh, now it's the number one player. So, your ring only works if you're the number one guy. What? So, the rings only work when you're number... Klay got four. Is Anthony Edwards going to be better only work when you're number one. Clay got four.

Is Anthony Edwards going to be better than him if Anthony Edwards wins one? I get it. I'm not going to argue with you. I'm asking you a question. I get it. Clay has four as a shooting guard. Yo, I'm telling you I get it. No, I'm not.

Get this. Clay has four as a shooting guard. I understand. Do you put Anthony Edwards in front of him if he wins one? You know what? Because you said it's all about winning. You said that. I don't know about that. I'm just asking. I'm't understand. Do you put Anthony Edwards in front of him if he wins? You know what? Because you said it's all about winning. You said that. I don't even know what basketball is.

I'm just asking. I'm asking you. I've never seen a basketball. I'm asking you. Do you put him in front of Klay? What kind of show is this? I'm asking you. Do you put him in front of Klay?

Swaggy, this is Gil Zarina presented by Underdog. I'm asking you. I'm asking you. Just answer your own. Did you say you don't know what basketball is? Klay got four. Klay got four of't know what basketball is? Clay got four. Clay got four of them joints. So let's move on quickly to this tweet that Trey Young posted.

Oh, we're back to that. On Sunday. Yeah, because we did not discuss. Y'all blew right past it. He said, hot take but not OKC fans are louder than Nick fans. Happy Sunday. Trey wants the King of New York before Jalen Brunson took that title. Nick fans still chant F. Trey wants to be king of New York before Jalen Brunson took that title. Nick fans still chant

F. Trey Young, even when Trey has nothing to do with a particular series going on. Just trolling? They're not louder. I don't know. They could be. Because of the way the arena's built. You don't want them rednecks

to get out there. I'm just saying the way the arena's built, it could't want them rednecks to get out there. I'm just saying the way the arena's built, it could be loud. They're going to kill you. Don't do that. He was trolling. I'm just saying because an arena's built, it could be louder. Like, Indiana's loud, right? Absolutely.

Okay, it could be loud as shit. Okay, see, them small, compact arenas be loud as shit. And them people ain't got nothing. Listen, one thing for sure two things for certain Thunder the only acting time Doing a play Applebee's in the Oklahoma City going them up. They don't rally

Scurvy yeah Is it that is a sound like a hotel I want to stay. It's haunted. It's a haunted hotel? Have you been in it? Yeah, we used to stay there. Is it haunted? I don't know. Madison Square Garden?

I don't believe in ghosts. Yeah. None of that shit. You believe in spirits? Yeah, you got to show me. I ain't never seen you now. I can't show you a spirit. I ain't never seen you. So how do you believe in spirits? I'm asking. No, I don't believe in ghosts. I do. I don't never seen them. I can't show you a spirit. I ain't never seen them. So how do you believe in them?

I'm asking. No, I don't believe in them. I do. I don't. Because I've seen them. I've felt them. So they would have to come sit in my bed and wake me up. For you to believe in them?

Absolutely. Never happened. I believe in them. Never happened. So OKC Hotel, you've never had any... No issues. OK. And I wouldn't stand for one.

There's some people that went there and they... We stay in our own rooms all the time. And there's some dudes went to the hotel and all of a sudden y'all got a double. You got roommates and shit because they don't want to sleep in the room by themselves. I don't think y'all understand. Sometimes you get by with the help of your friend. Some dudes stay in different hotels. I don't understand that hotel.

What's the name of it? Hilton Scurving. Oh, wow. They stay across the street. Yeah, Luke stayed in the hotel. Yeah, somebody, a few dudes stayed across the street at the hotel. Sheridan or something. But some players sharing a room together. Sharing a room.

Yeah. National basketball. So, yes. Going back to the college. Because they scared of this. Because they scared of this. Serious. So, basically, the ghost going, he going to have to fight both of us?

Is that what? Ghost ain't going to. Yeah. It's the ghost. We both get fucked up no matter what. I want a roommate. You know what I mean? Ghost can fuck you up.

It's me. Did you hear that? I heard it too. I would have to be in that moment. You would have to pick this goddamn bed up and flip this bitch upside down, turn it, TVs and lights come on, and I got to see you motherfucking doing it. Like,

believing that shit. Fucking scary. Do you believe in angels? Angels? I've never seen one. No, I'm just asking, I'm just asking if you believe in angels. No?

I had a good ghost up there, though. I get a billion dollars, I believe in, I believe in whoever will give me a billion dollars first. You had a what? In my bank account. So I a billion dollars, I believe in. I believe in whoever will give me a billion dollars first. You had a what? In my bank account. So I don't know.

Will Fargo. Where did he get it? Confused. I don't know. I don't know. A dog, you know what I mean? You want to resign a contract, you got to, it's an angel, baby. Confused.

I don't know. It's a dog. I had a good ghost. Black dog. You had a what? I had a good ghost up there. You had a good ghost? Yeah, yeah.

That's what we called her, huh? My dog. She disappeared. Oh, yeah. Disappeared right after. I said, damn, how you do that? Who did that? Who did that?

I took a 250 off the counter. Who did that to me? I woke up like, who did that? And the way them rooms were set up, though, the way the suite was set up, they had this fucking thing in the middle. It was dark as shit there for one. And then you were back. The way the same area was in the suite.

They had the room to separate. The two walks on this side. You couldn't separate the two walks on this side. You couldn't see on that side of the wall. I could understand why certain dudes would actually be creepy for some people. That was a demon. That demon came in. Was it a ghost or was it a demon?

She was a demon. 250. She was a ghost under the word goat so let's keep this thing moving before we move on before we move on to mostly fans

she deserved it keep your door open. You got a ghost in here. You got a ghost. Leave the hatchet. What's that? Oh, my God. Keep your hatchet unlocked.

Oh, my God. Oh, shit. Horrible, boy. NBA is terrible. You know this. I tried. Man on the love. No, you're thinking about how he is.

I think he is. He is. I think he is. I said some dumb shit. Here she comes, y'all. NBA is a terrible place. Come out the door on purpose like, oh, man. Where you at? Come and join this draw.

Like, yo, nigga. Yo, before I got the towel on, ain't no good getting out the shower. I ain't getting out the shower. What's up? Oh, my God. What room she in? She coming this way. Oh, okay.

All right, before we move on to Mostly Fans, gotta give some love to my favorite show. So last week, for the first time ever, YouTube released their Top 100 Podcast list

for the entire United States. The list is based on total watch time and will be updated weekly moving forward. But I'm proud to announce Gil's Arena finished in the top 20

of YouTube's top 100 podcasters, even though we are a show. Let's go, Gilbert. Even though we are a show. Ow! I know, but we were joined by other shows we rock with,

including It Is What It Is, which ranked 23rd on the list, and is a member of the Underdog family as well. Woof, woof. Woof, woof. Cam and Mae list, and is a member of the Underdog family as well. Woof, woof. Cam and Mae gets a little screw. Some Cam and Mae smoke as well. I love it.

I love it. He's at the victory. But, Gil, back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Woof, woof. Gil, what does it mean to you to see Gil's Arena ranked in the top 20 of all YouTube podcasts in the United States of America? It's a pretty big time. Yeah?

Average? He was asking you. I just said it is that's not that listen there's a lot of there's a lot of talented people out there you know doing their thing you know been in it for a while where we in in basketball hmm where was we at basketball one okay sports we was two all over sports was two since pat mcguffin and us uh club shea shea if you count that as a sports show, God knows you have.

That's not a sports show. But there are sports... That's like... No. That's not even a show. With a sports personality hosting. No, that's not a sports show.

Okay. That's sports. That's red table talk. Yes. Okay. So we're one in basketball and two in sports. Two in sports

by your metric. Gossip. That's just metrics. Okay, by the metrics. That's what it is. That's culture. All the smoke is culture. They're not.

That's not. They do discuss sports topics, though. Oh, yeah. Closer to that. I mean, there should be a person. Pat. Pat McAfee. Oh, and then Club Shay Shay or something?

No, then us. Okay. But his normal podcast, Club Shay Shay, is top seven. And then Nightcap, I believe, is 28. And then Nightcap is 28.

The sports show. So two in the top 28. So, I mean, that's great. Let's go. You know, we got to keep moving. Okay, well,

speaking of keep moving, direct deposit needs to increase as a result of that top 20 if we would like to stay in the top 20. Yeah, that's correct. More than merely a host. I just can't lie to you.

You probably can't lie to me. Oh, and Jeff T. They got two of them. They got two. With that in mind, we also got to show some love to Club Shea Shea, the Pat McAfee show, Nightcap, the Joe Budden podcast, Million Dollars Worth of Game, 7 p.m. in Brooklyn,

and Club 520, along with their daily show, 520 in the morning, for also making the top 100. We appreciate all y'all. Let's keep raising the bar. Oh, yeah. And doing this thing right here. We appreciate everybody. All love in this community.

They got two of them. We're trying to get to that number one spot. I picked them up. Wait, so they got two channels? Like, how did they separate that they have? I think they both run on the same channel, if I'm not mistaken. But one is a live show and one is a separate interview podcast. Damn.

I told you we got to bring back No Chicks. I seen them all the other days. When they're up there, they be having like, they do like three or four shows. They work. They pre-record. Shout out to Teague and the crew over there. Good to see y'all out there moving and shaking. But let's move on to Mostly Fans.

Presented by our friends at Underdog. Go ahead, download the app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick'em. So we have a question from a name I think you'll appreciate, GIL, from Underdog user Elijah Arenas Lottery2026. A lot of characters, but very accurate.

Besides Lexi, who is your favorite current WNBA player to watch right now? Cheryl, we'll start with you. You are our resident expert on WNBA. The GOAT four-time champion, Hall of Famer. I'm not an expert. Wearer of exclusive Jordans. Okay, Aja Wilson, doing her thing.

Yeah. The A1s, a lovely shoe. Yeah. Very comfortable. Man. That's all you're representing. Blessed to get a pair. I do know some people. Sold out. Aja, I got two. Asia is my, like, bet.

My newbie, Rekia Jackson. Shout out Rekia. So, Kenya, we'll move on to you. Besides Lexi, who is your favorite current WNBA player to watch at this exact moment right now? I was going to say Asia. I'm going to give Big some love. But was it

Brianna Stewart? She can get it done as well. Stewie? Stewie can get it done as well. Give the Big some love out here.

Let's move on to you Swaggy. Favorite WNBA player to watch besides our very own Lexi Brown, member of the top 20

YouTube podcast Gills Arena presenter. What did you just say? It gotta be WNBA. That is the question from Elijah Arena's Lottery 2026. I was going to say Juju. I was going to say Juju.

I was going to say USC and she hurt. Get my head back. That's why I was going to say Juju. I do that hard too. It was straight. I'm going to say Juju, but... I do that hard, too. Yeah, it was straight. I'm going to move straight. Yeah.

I'm going to go Asia. I'm going to go Asia. And I love Angel. I like Angel attitude. I love her energy and shit. I mean, and stuff, so... It's okay. We can cut.

Top 20. Yeah, I love... Y'all will be cussing on me. The person that, you know, how she... Who she is, you know? She took be, who she is, you know. She took on that role. She keep it up. She is inspiration for, you know, my daughter, love her and shit.

I like that. Last but not least, Gilbert Arenas, the namesake of Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Whoop Whoop. What the fuck are you doing? Kelsey Mitchell. Zero. Also, where's Zero? It looked like a heart. It looked like a heart at first. I thought you were Jerry McKinnon. What are you doing? Kelsey Mitchell. Zero. She's worth zero. It looked like a heart.

It looked like a heart. I thought you were Jeremy Cain. You had an upside down heart. I do love Kelsey. She's nice. She gets to it. It's a lot of good talent.

And then my second one is anyone who shoots over like 49% for the field. Ah, shit. Yeah. Man, it's going to be that hard. All right, 43% for the field. Damn, shit, I got to bump it down.

God damn. I don't know. You're a lifelong fan of the WNBA despite how we act here on Gills Arena presented by Underdog Whoop Whoop. So let's move on to our second question from Underdog Guilds, from Quadlife33. Oh, shit. So this is a question from Quadlife33. Who will need to be more dominant in the Eastern Conference Finals, Jalen Brunson or Tyrese Halliburton? Who will need to be more dominant in the Eastern Conference Finals?

For their team to be successful, their team. Hallie. Hallie would. You got to get some buckets, right? Yeah. I don't think they can win if he doesn't. Some of them 25-15 assist games. Yeah.

Yeah, I was seeing him win some games and it was like, you know, 8-4. I'm like, I don't think you can do it. Not this series. It was easy against the last series because their whole team was hurt. Not this time. He's easy against the last series because their whole team was hurt. Not this time. But he's going to have to be dominant.

Every game. He can't dominate without scoring. He can dominate games without scoring sometimes. Yeah, but he has to score for them. Because he don't have – Siakam is cool, but he's not. Like, you can't rely on him now. They match up well. But they play fast without shooting threes, though. That's the thing.

They throw that bitch a head and attack. Hey, you know what? Expect to see a lot of T.J. McConnell. Oh, yeah. It's fact. Expect to see a lot of T.J., dog. Yeah, like, if I'm... He's gonna bother the shit out of Jalen Brunson

you got to pick him up pick him up full court news flash bucko tire him out if I'm Tibbs I'm already doing that Hart or Bridges you're going to be the point guard in this series

they're going to switch off for sure Eastern Conference Finals tips off on Wednesday. We will be covering it all week here on Gills Arena. Before we go, Cheryl, you weren't on the show with us last week, but Mother's Day was last weekend. So as a token of our appreciation for you and all that you do, we just wanted to give you a Mother's Day gift. See, I do love y'all for real.

Oh, God. We got your back. Thank you. Josiah, I know this was all your idea. No, it's the women around here. Oh. This is all women around here. All women around here.

You know, we don't think of shit. We do not think of shit. I know. All women. Trust me. They do an excellent job. Yeah, they do an excellent job thinking about everybody. As always, appreciate you.

Glad to have you back on the couch. You'll be here tomorrow as well. Get it going. So appreciate you to everybody. Glad to have you back on the couch. You'll be here tomorrow as well. Get it going. So appreciate you to everybody in the chat. Appreciate everybody on this couch. Appreciate our amazing crew

and the team at Underdog helping us get top 20 YouTube podcast. Gil, obviously got to give you your flowers always because you cut the check. Yeah.

You're doing your thing, making us work even when we don't feel like it. So get your ass to work and we're going to keep this thing going. You don't want that stick. I'm like, God damn, okay. Nick, you don't want that stick. Get your ass to work and we're going to keep this thing going. You don't want that sick. I'm like,

God damn, okay. Nick, you don't want that sick playback. Okay, shit. Thankfully, no playback tonight. You know you get to taste about 15 minutes before.

Can you pull up? Like, damn. I have a question. I know, we can be done. Okay, afterwards. All right. Appreciate all y'all.

This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa! We will see y'all. This has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Well, we will see y'all tomorrow. Thank you.