Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena RIPS The Bucks After Another Bad Loss | FT. Ty Lawson

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

Gil's Arena Previews The NBA Eastern Conference Playoff Picture as Gilbert Arenas, Ty Lawson & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Julius Randle shutting it down for the New York Knicks and debate how much ...that changes things for Jalen Brunson's surging team. They also break down the Boston Celtics clinching the best record in the NBA and with the Milwaukee Bucks losing yet another game to a bad team, debate which teams (if any) can take down Jayson Tatum's C's in a 7 game series. Finally, Gil addresses his INSANE viral Nikola Jokic MVP take from Nightcap and reacts to LeBron James story on how Coach Spo turned around the Miami Heat following their loss in the 2011 NBA Finals. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. ​​Purchase Ticket To Gil's Arena Live HERE - http://bit.ly/GilsArena_Live Fill out the form with YOUR FINAL 4 TEAM, and if they win it all, you'll take home a piece of the $100,000 bonus cash prize - https://forms.gle/Xb7VaHSkby5ZK2qq7 Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:18 Where Is This Meal From? 0:08:04 Should The NBA Allow Fights? 0:12:06 Gil Defends His INSANE Jokic MVP Take 0:14:11 Julius Randle Out For The Year 0:25:52 Can Anyone Catch The Celtics? 0:35:10 Bucks Suffer ANOTHER Bad Loss 0:42:27 Malachi Flynn Goes For 50 1:04:55 How Hard is it to Score 50? 1:10:14 Most Surprising Team This Season 1:14:52 Booker & Suns Continue Hot Streak 1:24:33 Reacting To LeBron's Coach Spo Story 1:31:41 Best Basketball Mind You've Been Around 1:41:35 MostlyFans 2:00:15 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:55 Get it on down. It's our Friday. Oh yeah, come on. Get it on. Yeah. Get it on this. Get your mans, dawg. What he do now? What he do now?
Starting point is 00:01:03 Tell him to take that left chuck off. I got a hole in my sock. Take that left chuck. I live a modest life. You got a hole? I live a modest life, Gil. It's your favorite socks, bro. We understand.
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Starting point is 00:01:30 As always, we got Gilbert Arenas here with us. Okay, got the furry shoes. How you doing? You know, got the fit going on. We got Brandon Jennings back on the couch representing Tough Crowd. We're in hostile territory. I like the new hat.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Appreciate you for blessing the whole crew with it. Appreciate it. Just we got sweater over there We got Kenya Martin Back here with us It's all vacation. They know they do not like that side Every time I was over there like They don't cheer on that side of you. They don't cheer nothing on that side. They get dry every time. They dry. Every time.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I was over there like, damn. They used to a nigga being here, that's all. They got comfortable. You know what I'm saying? They ain't got comfortable having a nigga here. And we got a special guest making his first appearance in the arena. McDonald's All-American out of Oak Hill to help lead UNC to a chip. 2009.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Went on to be the 18th overall pick in the 2009 NBA draft. Played nine seasons in the league, Nuggets, Rockets, Pacers, Wizards and Kings. A DMV legend, Ty Lawson. Welcome to Gills Arena. Is that about it? There we go. Hey. It's gonna be a good day. A lot of shenanigans before the show.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Hopefully they translate to the actual episode. But here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Celtics clinched the best record in the league and home court advantage throughout the playoffs. But what teams do they not want to see in a seven-game series? The Bucs lost their second straight game to an NBA bottom feeder. But Giannis' hamstring injury be cause for concern. And is Jokic really the worst MVP in the past 40 years?
Starting point is 00:03:07 Damn. At least one person on this couch thinks so. And since he pays the bills, he's going to let you know about it. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Download the app, use promo code GILD, they'll match your first deposit up to $100. You heard that right.
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Starting point is 00:04:54 Final Four set to kick off. I know I gotta get off. This is all a preamble. I'm talking to Gil. I'm in the crosshairs. So men's Final Four is set. We got NC State taking on Purdue, Alabama facing UConn.
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Starting point is 00:05:46 Every day. What? Every day. International conflict. What else? What else? You are not welcome in the Balkans, Gil. You are not welcome in the Balkans.
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Starting point is 00:06:19 tie-dye game. So sign up to Underdog Fantasy and win some bread. All right, so we're gonna start this show with some black trivia. So we got a photo I'm going to show you guys. Somebody on Twitter yesterday posted a picture of a meal on a styrofoam plate with a piece of chicken, dinner roll, potato salad, green beans, a slice of cake, and a can of soda and asked, for my black fam, where am I currently? Prison.
Starting point is 00:06:43 So where is he? Okay, your guess is prison? They're not getting that good at prison. Damn. They don't get no cancer. I would like that. I mean, what? Early barter?
Starting point is 00:06:54 That's a shelter. That's a first Sunday. That's the first at church. That's the church with the door knob. That's the first Sunday. Let me see it again. That's just the Odell. Where is this meal?
Starting point is 00:07:04 That's just the Odell back there cooking. Red Church is not far off top. Not far off. You're close. Look at the green beans. That's a grandma. That's at least grandma house. That's some function.
Starting point is 00:07:15 The green beans should be the giveaway. That's a... That's a... That's Easter. Baby shower. That's Easter. That's a giveaway meal. Like Ty said, that's...
Starting point is 00:07:24 That's like some backyard. That's a giveaway meal. That's a shelter. That's a shelter. That's Easter? Baby shower. That's Easter. That's a giveaway meal. Like Ty said, that's, yeah, that's. That's like some backyard. That's a giveaway meal. That's a shelter. That's a shelter. Funeral. There you go, Gil. Oh, there it is. A funeral.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Funeral food. That is a funeral meal if you've ever seen one. The upper room. I've seen the, you're moving the sodas too much. Damn. Condolences to the family. A hood wedding. A hood wedding. A hood wedding would have also been acceptable.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Was polarized? No, he was Oakley. No. Did I polarize? Mm-mm. What you got, the Oakley glasses? Yeah, I like Oakley. Some Oakley's there.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah, you got that. I'm going to run them fishing. To the future. I'm going to run them on the boat fishing. Yeah. I can look in the... To polarize, you can look in the water. I'm trying to see if I can...
Starting point is 00:08:04 You can't see underwater? Yeah. It's polarized, you can look in the water. I'm trying to see if I can... You can't see underwater? Huh? Oh, the new eyes, you got the new eyes. No, like when you're on the boat, like you can, with certain glasses on, you can see certain depths in the water. Like the polarized shades. Wait, from the boat? Yeah, polarized shades. You can look like certain angles in water. You can look through the water to see. Oh, I thought that was just like Bahamas. You just shit clear. You just know they were I've been every island imaginable. So yeah, you can see through the lake waters. No not lake water boy. Oh Mean just stick your motherfucking head in the water and look there we go. You can see it you can do that
Starting point is 00:08:45 I'm in the middle of the ocean fishing. Ooh, where you going? Anywhere. Oh. You name it. I've been. Like, pretty much, I fish. I'm a deep-sea fish.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Like, that's... You don't get seasick? Take shit the night before and the morning of. It depends on the water, though. Like, I've been on it, but I haven't. Like, lots of times, but... What's the biggest fish that you caught? Like fish or just thing or anything in here how many a shark you caught a shark. I haven't him ahead
Starting point is 00:09:15 Nine and a half foot striped marlin. Okay Wow that took hours didn't it? What I was some change. Yeah Yeah, I was bad tuna You know That got was the Gulf of Mexico. Yeah. Well, I caught the tuna here, but I caught the Marlin and Mexico the hammerhead and Miami so to go from the gun Tie you not rolling a fish the ship no one a fishing ship. No one-hour fish battle? Yeah, the shot is down.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'll go on the six coming up. Give me a little small joint. Yeah, I'm good out there. Florida's fishing like, was that June, was it June, around that June, July, when like the tarpon is chasing the, something, the shark is chasing the tarpon? Like, ooh, it's fun. Or you can go to Cabo during the time of year, marlin and everything is running through Mexico, the waters, because the water's cold.
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Starting point is 00:11:21 We gotta talk a little hockey on the show. It might be the first time in the history of Guilds Arena, but it's an interesting. All right, let's keep moving. We got to talk a little hockey on the show. It might be the first time in the history of Gills Arena, but it's an interesting topic. So let's show the video. So things got turned up during the New Jersey Devils-New York Rangers game Wednesday night. Both teams started. Off the back, though?
Starting point is 00:11:37 Two seconds into the shit, they started throwing hands. Wait, they're not even fighting a nigga. They was lit. They was lit. Refs just watching. They won lit. Ref's just watching. They won. They said it's time. What's up?
Starting point is 00:11:52 They're getting into it. So, it was an entire five on five. Until somebody falls. They keep going until somebody falls. I thought somebody gave up. Until somebody falls. They keep going until somebody falls. I thought somebody gave up. No, they keep going until somebody falls. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Pop to you, drop. Keep going until somebody at the ice. That's why it be so many punches. Why they be throwing just rapid? Man. Yeah. So it was both five minus the goalies. Eight of the players were ejected.
Starting point is 00:12:25 I think the two dudes who started fighting first or not, because they're the initial fisticuffs, but everyone else who got into it as a result was ejected. Should the NBA allow one fight per game? One fight? Nah. Just one? Nah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Designated enforcers? Draymond versus? Nah. No. Nah. Nah. You good? I really don't want to fight in the league anyway, that's not for us Stewart was the name from Pistons Yeah, only one I really want to fight. They're not really child would have no fines. You can fight without any fines a Lot people get maybe might be so a lot people start getting slapped. It is big man
Starting point is 00:13:02 It'd be like a big man start getting slapped. It is big man Fucking with Garza cheap shot of them start getting for sure I would if you could fight in the winner gets the other person's game check Damn two-way players be having We get down with down with the star for sure. Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Yeah. I think I can win now. I want the rest of y'all. All right, well, let's get into some basketball.
Starting point is 00:13:37 So, Gil, you were on Nightcap last evening. Last night. Last evening. Oh, I'm sorry. It's Nightcap. I'm amped, dog. I'm amped. My bad. My bad.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Got a little juice. Got a little drink in here. I'm ready. I'm going to give you a little host perspective because it was nightcap. I don't want to say last night. It's our Friday. So I said last evening to sound more appropriate. But you have some things to say about Joker's two MVP awards that had some people in their
Starting point is 00:13:59 feelings. So in regards to Joker, you said, and I quote, he is the worst MVP winner in the last 40 years. So I was saying multi, so someone who won multiple. So worst multiple MVP winner. MVPs, your performance plus where your record ranked. So where your team record ranked, right? His first MVP, his team record was fifth in the NBA. They were fifth in the NBA, third in the West, 47 to 25.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Mm-hmm. And then his second one, his team was tenth in the NBA. Now, only time that happened was 88 Jordan. His team was seventh. And obviously we know what happened in 88. Defensive player of the year, scoring title steals, champ, dunk, champ, and I think all-star MVP. So it was a historic year, we could say. And then the next person to have a record like that would have been Westbrook when his team was 10th and he had a triple-double since the 70s which first time since Oscar but neither here nor there now the notebook is now since
Starting point is 00:15:13 there's no no not just the notebook he bought the big book the big book got the big book and I mean cuz multiple stats on this bit what was what was that dude Mike what's the name oh so there's a gentleman ESPN personality Mike Greenberg said this is the worst take of all time And this is the same Mike Greenberg that said UConn can make the NBA playoffs this season So I guess he didn't listen to himself say that that he thought a college team that probably got one or two actual NBA players good one it can be the actual NBA team could make the NBA playoffs. Okay, so MJ NBA players on and can beat an actual NBA team. Could make the NBA playoffs. Okay, so MJ, MVPs, there's four MVPs and his team record. Seventh. Seventh, second, one, one.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Magic's team, first, second, first. Bird, first, first, first. LeBron, first, first, fourth, first. Curry, first, first. Nash, first, fourth. Carmelone, second, first. Duncan, second, first first. Nash, first fourth. Carmelone, second first. Duncan, second first. Jokic, fifth and tenth.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Fifth and tenth. Now, here's the problem. The problem is not me. The problem is these motherfuckers right here, right? The winner of Jokic's first one should have been Greek the Freak. But they didn't want to give Greek his third straight MVP, so they fucked up there. This is not me. They fucked up because they didn't want
Starting point is 00:16:32 to give Greek his third one. So they gave it to Jokic. That's y'all problem. Not mine. Right? And then his second one was he almost had a triple-double. Not actually having a triple-double, almost having one of those motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:16:51 They gave it to, ooh, they used that, the big man having 10 assists while a dude actually had a triple-double that year. Westbrook had a triple-double that year when Jokic won his second one. So the fact that he almost won when they dumbed it down todouble that year, when Jokic won his second one. So the fact that he almost won when they dumbed it down to give him that award, he's the only multiple winner
Starting point is 00:17:12 that didn't even have fuckin' 50 wins when he won his MVP. Now, y'all fuckin' rank it, and rank it with the other one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight players. Last. Can't beat the six, seven, eight players. Last. Can't beat the fact. It's last place. All right?
Starting point is 00:17:29 Multiple winner. Only winner with multiple that didn't have 50 fucking wins when he won MVP. Multiple winner with the worst team record. Now, we can say whatever we want, but when Kobe's team was 10th, they didn't give it to him. Just like they didn't give it to every other player
Starting point is 00:17:50 who had a great season, but he didn't have great team success. Y'all are trying to use the same metrics on Wendy. We can't give him a defensive player of the year because his team is not winning. Like, y'all are fucking it up. Not me. Jordan should have had about seven of them motherfuckers. LeBron should have had a bunch. Y'all are fucking it up. Not me. Jordan should have had about seven of them motherfuckers.
Starting point is 00:18:08 LeBron should have had a bunch. Shaq should have had a bunch. Kobe should have had a bunch. It's y'all fault. A bunch of nerds. What's his name? Mike Greenberg. Mike Green?
Starting point is 00:18:16 Mike Green? Mike Greenberg. Because the people like Mike Green are voting and you guys are changing the narrative on how you guys work. That's y'all fault. I'm just here just to point out your flaw. Right?
Starting point is 00:18:27 That first one should have went to Greek. The second one, from your metrics, should have went to Tatum or Embiid. Last year, should have went to Jokic. This year, by the metrics, should go to Jokic. So no matter what, Jokic this year by the metric should go to Jokic so no matter what Jokic will have to correct your system then you won't have people like me and you're not going to be able to beat me with facts because I already fact-checked it before I fucking said it like I usually do everything no carry on thoughts from anybody on the couch? We got some former nuggets on this couch. Men lie.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Women lie. Numbers don't. So, yeah, I ain't got shit to say about it. The man looked it up. The man did his homework. The fuck? Hey, the fuck we going to sell? No, Gil, you fucking wrong, nigga.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Your stats don't mean shit. No, but that's what I'm saying. Think about the narrative with Westbrook, right? Yo Gil you fucking wrong nigga. Your stats don't mean shit. No. But that's what I'm saying. Think about the narrative with Westbrook right? It's a guard who had 10 rebounds and they said he was stat patent. A center making assists is glorified. Dude averaged four triple doubles. Now if we go by when Jokic won his second one and his team is 10 Westbrook
Starting point is 00:19:47 2018 his team was eight triple double 2019 his tenth was nine triple double this man winning close to no MVP Awards on those So you guys are changing the metrics for who you want to win it that year. It's a popularity contest Yeah, I agree same thing and also the same time They want the same person to win the you know The MVP year at the year like LeBron if you go by his stuff He could one way more than he got now by you know, he had the numbers They didn't want to keep giving it to the same person which they're pretty much doing now But now they try and make a reason why but I mean it's on them for real. We're just going by the numbers
Starting point is 00:20:23 By the members after and one of them years that Jokic, did he not have Jamal Murray that year? One of those two years he was MVP? Where he carried him? It was the sixth one that would have been... There were six in the West? There was a 2022. And that's what he wanted that year?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Yeah. Okay. So you're justifying, oh, you don't have this player. Y'all supposed to be last. Well, when Kobe had 2006, they said this'all supposed to be last When Kobe had 2006 They said this team was going to be last in the West And they made the playoffs
Starting point is 00:20:49 So like Keep the same energy across the board If you guys don't mess up From the beginning If you don't use your feelings And this is what I said Because these guys use feelings Right And this is their opinion They, I said, because these guys use feelings, right, and this is their
Starting point is 00:21:06 opinion, they're going to get it wrong. When, just use AI, put everybody's numbers in, put everybody's record in, AI it, and then go from there. AI don't have no feelings. AI, nobody did an interview with AI for the AI to be pissed off and not say, ah, fuck this dude, he didn't want to give me the interview. I want it. I'm just gonna go against him Let the AI do it and then you go from there so we can get better results So you don't have a dickhead like me who points it out?
Starting point is 00:21:36 Put that motherfucker this so bad so like they do I got their child support Everything always comes back to child support. I know you're passionate about something when you start sweating. It was just hot as hell. But I'm just saying, 10th, 5th, and under 50 wins, I'm not saying nothing wrong. I'm just pointing out. Yeah, because like you said, they got it wrong when they fucked Giannis for not giving him three in a row. Yeah, because... Because of Bird.
Starting point is 00:22:09 Because of Bird. See, I didn't want to go there. What happened? I didn't want to say they were protecting Bird three in a row when he could have been beat at least three times by now. He could have been beat by Jordan. Yeah, because when Bron was on his run, like Todd said, you can give it to him every year. And now, I'm saying Giannis is the new LeBron. If you really want to, you can give it to him fucking every year if you want to. Right. Because the team is going to be one, two, three, every year.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Right? They put up numbers. Every year. So he's the new, and it's just, it's going to be this continuous thing, man. And like you said, they need to take it out of their hands because they're emotional. It's unfortunate that people get to vote on the shit that ain't got nothing to do with the game don't don't vote just they watch 15 minutes of the game and then go in there and just start spitting shit that just don't make no the fact that you even came out with uConn, a college team. Motherfuckers get swept by the worst team. Can beat.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Yo, they'll get swept in the playoffs by the worst team. Are we saying the playoffs or are we saying play in? I hope he's saying actual playoffs. NBA playoffs. They will get swept by the worst team in the NBA. So he got packed up. He tried to retract it and say he was just kidding. Of course.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I'm just kidding. That was the worst course. Yeah. I'm just kidding. That was the worst take. Yeah. Fuck out of here. Whoever the... Actually, when... The last day I read the scene, 14, whoever the worst team is that day
Starting point is 00:23:34 will beat the dog shit out of the UConn Huskies. By $50. More than that. More than that. I know. What is he talking about? These are 14 NBA players now My greenberg pull up to the next girls arena shoot. I presented by underdog fantasy. Woof. Woof. No, no, no
Starting point is 00:23:53 No, when you think you get when you comment use your facts. I don't want your opinion I can give a fuck about your opinion on ESPN usual facts. I mean go you and your staff go to Google I guess that's what you use, go to Google and do fact checking in the last 40 years since the 80s, because I have everything. I even got shit on here that tells me, the big one, I done did all the 80s point guards. I don't know why I did it, I was just bored.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I got all the 80 point guards that tell me how many guards were actually averaging 20. All the shooting guards, the percentages from the three, free throw every day. I, small forwards, I just do shit just to do it. Okay? I'm real research around here homeboy. This is Gil Zarina presented by Underdog Fantasy.
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Starting point is 00:25:12 So Nick's got some bad news Thursday, All-NBA forward. Julius Randle will be undergoing surgery on his dislocated shoulder and is out for the remainder of the season. Randle injured the shoulder back in January and avoided surgery initially as he opted to rehab to try and make a comeback this season. Randle decided to get surgery after visiting two specialists who told him there could be permanent damage if he tried to come back without surgery. So before the injury, he was averaging 24 points and nine rebounds, five assists.
Starting point is 00:25:37 A game for the New York Knickerbockers, who are currently the fifth seed right now in the East. How big of a loss is this for this Knicks squad, and what does it mean for their playoff hopes this season? Well, they made some moves during the trade deadline to help just in case. Yeah. OG's been playing well, but dealing with elbow inflammation, so he missed a ton of games.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Of course, but... So no... No... Not good news though. Yeah, but no good Yeah, not definitely not good news not cuz he's definitely gonna be missed down the stretch and they need somebody like him in a Tough playoff series. No good a bucket Yeah, he also brings toughness to the team. So I mean that's gonna be a tough little hit for them You know, it was playing well, they was turning them back around and everything like that. But they'll be ready next year.
Starting point is 00:26:28 He gets back. I'm just saying they're going to be ready next year. They're going to be all right in the playoffs. It's the East. But next year they're going to be cracking. Julius, like, does he want to be there? Because he was having issues early. There were some situations last season, you know.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Last year? The year before that. Yeah, I was trying to stay away from him. All right, this y'all brought it up. I'm just saying. This y'all brought it up. They might end up playing better without him. He don't really want to be there anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Not in the playoffs. Let's just get Jalen a little more freedom. Well, more freedom in the playoff series. That ball be sticking, though. Oh, when they talk about with Julie? Yeah. I mean, that's why the Lakers got him. Ball stick.
Starting point is 00:27:14 So it might be all right for the Knicks right now with him going down. All-star, all-NBA player, double-double guy. You need every weapon in the playoffs, man. I mean, but we've also seen but we also seen them like come down and you know not want to play and have bad attitudes Too sometimes we seen it only in New York issues with only in the garden. Okay. Well, that's You boo me every night man. It's gonna be hard for me to get up and I'm sorry So today booing you for playing well and winning. I'm just, I played there. I know.
Starting point is 00:27:50 In that bitch. They ain't booing you for winning and playing hard. I know, but. That's all I'm saying. But I get that. And giving it. I get it, but it's home, right? We're not going to come out.
Starting point is 00:28:02 It's 80, it's 41 games. We're not going to come out every game. But it it's 41 games. We're not going to come out every game. But it's New York, though. I know. So therefore. Right, the level. Therefore, right? You know what it is. It's happened before. A lot. I know. Motherfuckers don't want to play.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Motherfuckers use bags to the games, right? Ripping posters off the streets. So I'm just saying, but you know what it is. So there's a certain expectation out there right and if you Internally know This ain't me Probably fine. It just maybe it's tough. He been saying he been trying to get out. It's tough. There's stuff I play there
Starting point is 00:28:42 Here's this chance right Because that paper, man. Back page, page six. Hey, man, that shit rough. Because there ain't no chill with the media out there. Because it starts in the media first. That's the crazy part. They don't realize, just from an athlete's standpoint, the role team team that star player
Starting point is 00:29:08 Then it has an advantage over the Knicks team As long as that star player gets to go and the Knicks is gonna be cheering cuz they like basketball. Yes See they like great basketball. So you come in I'm being cheating. You got a guard me and you home. That's crazy. I was like, when your girl laughing at another nigga joke. You just sit there like, I'm good, man. Laugh one more time. We played them in the playoffs when I was with the Nets.
Starting point is 00:29:36 We swept them in the guard. We turned the crowd. It was bothering us. We didn't sell out nothing. We was beating a ass head time We played him. Mm-hmm. So we got chance to play him in the playoffs And it was in a chair for us. That was the best feeling fucking boy Nick fans just like good basketball
Starting point is 00:29:57 but that's best bad because you it's it's probably one of It's probably the one of the best crowd atmosphere in the NBA. And then when you're talking about the playoffs, if they just focus, just cheer for the Knicks and just boo the other team, right? Or if you don't want to cheer for them, just boo the other team, right? Just don't boo us because that helps the other team.
Starting point is 00:30:22 It's different in the playoffs, though. It is? It's different in the playoffs. Oh, they get right? Oh, they get right? the other it's different in the playoffs though. It is it's different in the play Oh, they they all they all they get right. Yeah, they all in in the playoffs. I mean they did get right against motherfucker Oh, no, no, no crazy But they all I'm comfortable This is my spot
Starting point is 00:30:44 Once you get comfortable over there's yeah, Brandon was your experience like playing with the Knicks doing with the the New York media? That was a rough year. We had Melo D Rose Joe Kim Noah Phil Jackson was coaching from the stands It was just like, you know, it's just a lot going on Jeff Hornacek Oh use on the squad when I bashed, oh, when I was going in on Phil. Yeah, uh-huh, yeah, that year when they was trying to trade Mello and they couldn't, when they said Mello had the no trade clause,
Starting point is 00:31:10 yeah, that year. And I was bashing his ass. Yeah, but our team was good, though. On paper, we just couldn't get it together. It was a good team, though. That's the year when I... No, you left that year. And they gave Joe Kim 70.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Mm-hmm, yeah, they gave Joe Kim 70. Yeah, they gave Joe Kim 70. I told the motherfucker he could have gave me five, nigga, and I could have did exactly what he was doing. The motherfucker was terrible when he was there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yeah. They could have gave me five, man. I would have did that. What? I just left. Yeah, the fans was rough on him. The fans was rough on Joe Kim. The year before, nigga, I was just there.
Starting point is 00:31:46 They gave this bitch 70. Nigga, I was just there. Mm-hmm. Okay, this bit 70 Look at it fraction of it. Mm-hmm way more production way more 70 feel up there mo I will I yeah, which I'll give you he was a great coach Can't make them kind of decisions man bad you know, man. Yeah horrible. It was tough. It was rough. Hired fucking Jeff Hornet. Are you shitting me? Better off keeping Woody, nigga.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Shout out Mike Wilson. Let's stay in the East. Shit, man. The Celtics have been the best team in the league for much of the season. Yeah. Fuck yeah. For a cup of tea. Motherfucker got head ass. Being a cup of tea.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Being a Knick though, having the Knicks on your, across your chest is... Something different. Something different. On the road, we got fans everywhere. They got fans everywhere. I remember doing that. Everywhere, dog. I did a random study. I did a random study of the phase where the Knicks played better. They had a better road record than they did a home record. Probably sometimes. I mean, on the road, it get cracking. I know. It get cracking. Teams like that came in there, oh yeah, it's cracking.
Starting point is 00:32:53 New York State, LA. LA? I'm like, LA? Wildin' in there. Yeah, yeah. LA feels wild. Oh, now the Lakers shit is unbelievable. Yeah, Lakers shit.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And Denver? Oh, it's the wildest shit going. The wildest shit going all right the wildest shit going The Lakers got like it's like Moses Kobe a year Boy Is part of the Red Sea Roll games and I don't know where they coming from. Are they from the city or are they all coming from? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:26 People from L.A. most moved to Denver. That's how the gang shit out there, what it is, all that shit migrated from here to Denver. There's a lot of fucking Lakers fans out there. Was New York fan base, like how was y'all when y'all went to Miami? Was that y'all home crowd? Yeah, it was, yeah. It was y'all home crowd, huh? It was even in that bitch.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah, okay. Eye of the blue in that motherfucker. Back then, Miami fans would come to, like, halftime anyway. But, like, 80-some games, sure as hell. On the road, we straight. Halftime, second quarter, then they'll start. We played Boston in the playoffs, too, boy. We played Boston in the playoffs. That boy. We play Boston in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:34:07 That shit rocking in that bitch. In Boston? In the garden. In the garden. In the garden. Let's stay in the East. Celtics have been the best team to lead for much of the season. Wednesday, they clinched NBA's best record and home court throughout the playoffs
Starting point is 00:34:23 with a 35-point win over the Thunder. It's the Celtics' ninth 16-win season since the NBA-ABA merger. They are 33-3 at home this season. But I got to ask the couch, which teams in the league do you think can actually beat the Celtics in a seven-game series this playoffs? In the East overall. In the East overall. In general.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Well, I picked Denver, so. You think Denver still got them even without home court advantage? Yeah, they got to equalize them, man. Half court basketball. Yeah. Get with it. Need a bucket? Throw it to 15 dog like Denver's gonna have to I mean um Boston will have to change
Starting point is 00:35:07 their lineup and give um give Denver another look and that's put Tatum at the point Brown at the two Sam at the three Horford and Porzingis and then make Curry guard I mean make a Murray guard Tatum right and then when they do that switch, Jokic is posting up someone who can challenge his shot a little bit at 6'9". He's not sitting with a 6'4 guard on him. He's just shooting over. He's got someone a little bit taller. So when they do play pick and roll switching, that lineup is still big.
Starting point is 00:35:43 He's not taking advantage of no small guy, but it's still something to throw at him. You make Murray actually try to guard Tatum, putting him in the post. Brandon, are there any teams in the East that could beat the Celtics in a seven-game series? Of course, the Bucs. Bucs in six? Of course. Stop this shit, man. I'm not stopping nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Stop this shit. Oh, come on, man. We're struggling right now, but that's just awful gazey. No this shit, man. I'm not stopping nothing. Stop this shit. Oh, come on, man. We struggling right now, but that's just, it's all Fugazi. No, no, no. Your hire was Fugazi. No, it's all Fugazi. Your hire was Fugazi. Fugazi, dog.
Starting point is 00:36:13 This is reality. What's going on every night has been reality for the last two months. It's all Fugazi. So, when you look at the Celtics squad, what would you say their weaknesses are? If you were game planning against them? Trying to beat them in a playoff series. How would you approach? Trying to take them down Go ahead Jalen Brown
Starting point is 00:36:35 You say what go at him yeah Like what I mean, just go ahead Jalen Brown. I think you think he's the weakest defender. No, I just Think I mean it comes down to it. He ain't gonna show up hmm Because of the because of the Tatum him and Tatum, I don't think they still there Yeah, like I don't think they're mature enough yet, and I think it's more him than Tatum if you get what I'm saying like If it's more him than Tatum. If you get what I'm saying, like... If it's Denver, you just let...
Starting point is 00:37:10 I mean, they will beat themselves for the most part, and that's because they play basically ISO basketball all the time. Right? When Tatum has the ball, Brown is literally sitting in the far corner. In the corner, yeah. You have one at the top of the key, the other one sitting in the far corner. In the corner, yeah. You have one at the top of the key, the other one sitting in the far corner. So your best player is at least two passes away instead of being the next pass away.
Starting point is 00:37:32 So if I get trapped, I can give it to the second best player. This has to go swing, swing. Now, if this guy is open, he usually takes this shot every time, which is usually white. This is usually going to be white taking a shot instead of giving it to Brown. So the fact that they play basketball like that and they spend most of their time shooting jumpers, then using their athleticism getting to the rim,
Starting point is 00:37:54 they can shoot themselves out of games. But I'm just saying, his aggressiveness won't be there. Like we were pointing out in the chat, talking about him, like how he just sit in the corner. I just think that's going to come down to when it's time for them to win. Ty, do you agree or disagree with that? I agree. I mean, the Celtics will beat themselves.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Most times they do lose is when they shoot a bad percentage from the three-point line, and then they don't really go to the basket or have a different counter for it. So I feel like if they shoot themselves out most games, that's how they'll lose. And just against Denver, it's tough when your kids get that drop pass. And then they have to figure out, oh, they're going to leave Aaron Gordon, who's already going up top. You've already seen that play like every time they do it. You come double to throwing it up.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Or he's hitting the three-point shooters, Casey, Colwell Pope, or Porterr. It's just tough to guard that and they're getting naked threes It's not like they have to do anything. They're just lying that line it up and that's it So I just think Denver's gonna be a team to beat in the playoffs this year It's just yoga's just too much and you're like any other teams east or west Could get the Celtics in the seven game series any other team? Maybe the Bucs if Doc get it together over there. The Bucs is good. They got
Starting point is 00:39:10 good personnel and everything. If by chance the Clippers get there, I think the Clippers can give Boston a run for it. The way Boston plays? The way Boston plays? Because Clippers can play the exact same way and I think the Clippers players are better at it than them. Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:25 So, I just, if by chance, but I just think getting through Denver in the West is a tall ask. It's tough, right? It's a big ask. And Phoenix, too. You know, it really boils down to it. The reason that it's hard to beat Denver is because Denver is that college team
Starting point is 00:39:44 that backdoors you all the time. They're making the right read, the right play. So they don't have guys besides Michael Porter who's going to do heat checks for the most part. They don't have a bunch of heat checkers. Like, you know, if Jokic hits two threes in a row, his next one is not a three. It's going to be a swing to someone open or he's going to go to the post. He's always maximizing the offense. I'm freaking out.
Starting point is 00:40:09 He ain't going to be sitting there like, you got Tatum, Brown, Harden, Paul, George, not Kawhi for the most part. They get two, three shots in a row. The next two are going to be some long shit. It's that hero basketball. It's some guard shit we do. Hit two, three, you're going, the next two are going to be some long shit. It's that hero basketball.
Starting point is 00:40:26 It's some guard shit we do. Hit two, three, you're going to come down with the next one. Fire that motherfucker. No matter where it's from, no matter who guards you, no matter you get fun with that bitch, you're going to fire that motherfucker. The Denver, they don't have those plays. They don't really
Starting point is 00:40:41 waste 15, 20 possessions in a game doing stuff like that so you know those last five minutes they're gonna get great shots the whole five minutes and you know you can if you as long as you can stay within you know reach in the last five minutes and then from there you just got to play basic perfect basketball cuz they are even with Jamal Murray had it going in the bubble when he was like they were still running a stuff But he was just he just had it fucking going. Yep. Mm-hmm. So this yeah, that's You know, I heard you say Nuggets Clippers any other teams in LA potentially no
Starting point is 00:41:21 Here you go, I was to go one day without it. And you know what time it is. It's Laker time. They're surging. They're surging. I'm just kidding. Still in the nice spot. But let's keep it in the east.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Bucks were looking at. Surging with motherfucking their feet. They swimming to the top with their goddamn feet tied together. See my boots off. Bucks were looking to bounce back after their loss to the Wizards on the road Tuesday, but with Dane Middleton and Pat Bev sideline,
Starting point is 00:41:49 took another disappointing loss, this time to the Grizzlies at home Wednesday night. Grizzlies are last in the league in paint scoring, but managed to score 76 points in the paint against the Bucs. Bucs' fifth straight loss
Starting point is 00:42:00 to the Grizzlies. They're now one and four in their last five games. They're also one and seven this season without D Damon in the lineup. They were in where in paint? The Grizzlies were last in the league in paint. Last in the league in paint scoring.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Scored 76 points on the Bucks last night. Just extremely high number. Bucks were 30- 13 with adrian griffin they are currently 15 and 15 with doc rivers running the show what's the record 30 and 13 i just need you to make sure you said like i just want to know when adrian griffin was going through that 30 and 13 everybody's saying how bad their defense is right you remember that was the narrative they was pushing? What was his name? Mike Moussan, what's his name? Mike
Starting point is 00:42:49 Miller? No, Mike Greeny. Mike Greenberg. Yeah, Greenberg. Berg, Berg. Where is he at? I remember him saying, where is he at now? Where's the defense to talk on? Because I know he was one of you guys. He was one of you guys' announcers and shit like that. Where are you guys at now with the defense? talk on because I know he was one of you guys he was one of you guys announcers and shit like that where are you guys at now with the defense
Starting point is 00:43:07 where's the defense talk today about the Bucks is it an improvement from when y'all was talking about earlier or is it worse because we know the offense is worse of course that always happens where's the defense is the defense ranked higher is it still defense currently 16th defensive rating in the National Basketball Association It's 16th It was 19th before he got there But their offense was ranked 2
Starting point is 00:43:30 Right So his offense is ranked what now Let me pull it up Hold on I guarantee it won't be 2 You know Because if it's 2 Then the defense got better
Starting point is 00:43:44 If the offense suffered For the defense to look better, I don't do fool's gold. Offense currently fifth in the league. It's not that bad. No, not that bad. It's not that bad. We're all right. Yeah, y'all all right. Y'all 15 and 15 since you got there.
Starting point is 00:43:58 That's amazing. I mean, we've been hurt. I mean, last two games, what? Both of our star players wasn't playing. Oh, my God. Oh, my players wasn't playing. Oh my god. Oh my god The star player wasn't playing against who Washington Wizards in the Memphis Grizzlies Because of the because of the Grizzlies got who who has the star player who's the star play over there?
Starting point is 00:44:18 I don't know we miss Aaron Jackson three people. No, I'm missing three. Yeah, how many players are Grizzlies missing? I don't even think they have any the most players in NBA history on their roster this year. Injured. It was a 30, right? Yeah, they signed- 35 motherfuckers. Yeah, something like that. 35?
Starting point is 00:44:33 They ain't playing for nothing, so you know they gonna go hard. 45, 47. What I'm saying is if two more people get injured, we all on the team. That's how bad that roster is and y'all lost to them. I mean, you know. We're just losing right now. Okie doke. Is this it?
Starting point is 00:44:51 Okay. It's a little rope-a-dope. I think it's okie doke. A little rope-a-dope. You know, I think it's just okie doke and then boom. So something else. First round. Something else to monitor.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Giannis got a left hamstring injury right now after the Grizzlies lost. Doc talked about keeping Giannis in the game despite that injury, saying he wanted to take him out in the third quarter, but the trainer said he was fine. And then Giannis also addressed the injury, saying, it's easy to say I'm not going to play and to sit, but I think it's the hardest to play through pain and keep going on, not to just try to win, but also for yourself, because I think it's going to help me in the long run. Wait. Is that English?
Starting point is 00:45:30 What'd you say? It's easy to say, I'm not going to play and to sit, but I think it's the hardest to play through pain and keep going on, not just to try to win, but also for yourself, because I think it's going to help me in the long run to play through that pain. So playing through pain on a hamstring is going to help me in the long run to play through that thing. So playing through pain on a hamstring is going to help him in the long run? No, it's not. Well, that'll look great. I mean, that seems great unless he misses the next game and then... Or some of the playoffs because of lingering hamstring.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Yeah. I wouldn't... Yeah, I don't know. I'm dying to be like, yo, come over, sit down, bro. We need you for the playoffs. Playoffs coming up soon. What is it, 10 games? How many games left? It's like six. Six, something like that?
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah. But that's that shit. You were saying Adrian Griffin would tell him, go sit down. He would tell him to park it, as the young kid said. Right. It's mean. It's so hard because it's a double-edged sword here. Right now we're getting ready for the playoffs, right?
Starting point is 00:46:28 You're getting ready for the playoffs. You got to be smart. You don't want lingering injuries going into the playoffs. Right. Right? Which we already have. And then, you know, then that whole narrative of guys don't want to play. They're not doing this.
Starting point is 00:46:40 They're resting in this. Then you got that narrative. So someone like him who's stuck in the middle is like, now you got to say whatever Keeps the media off him. Oh, yeah, you know we just got a plate three injury makes us better now if he's You know hobbling through the playoffs We're gonna be talking about him We're gonna be saying well you should have sat down the last four games of the season
Starting point is 00:47:01 Is you can't win there's no win here because the narrative is going to get switched anyway. Yeah, they just went through this last year with the fucking Miami first round. Not healthy in the first round, you fucking lose to AC. Yep.
Starting point is 00:47:15 So Bucs currently holding on to the second spot in the East. They might as well go to three. If they go to three right now, Gil, they'd be looking at playing the Miami Heat again in the opening round. Also the potential for the Sixers
Starting point is 00:47:29 and or Pacers to jump into that sixth spot. Who do you feel like is the most favorable matchup? I'll play the Heat, then Indiana if his hamstring hurting. I don't want to play a team that's trying to score 140. I don't want to play a team that's trying to score 140.
Starting point is 00:47:47 But I do want to play Indiana because they don't have a Jimmy Butler. But I don't want to play a team that's sitting there just sitting there doing this the whole time and Giannis got to play full-court basketball the whole time because that's... Yeah. Plus, Indiana beat them, what, three times already? I think four out of five.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Four and one this season against them. Yeah, so I don't think I want to see them either right now. Miami ain't the same as last year. I don't think they are the same. Yeah, that's what I said. Player-wise, I don't think they're going to come in and beat them like that. But Indiana, I'm not trying to see them right now. Tyrese is hurt though.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Is he? Tyrese, right? Yeah, but the offense still moves fast. I remember watching Reese, right? Yeah, but the offense still moves fast. Like, I remember watching Clay, right? It was Clay in the final. Somebody was like, how's he going to do? I was like, he's not going to play well.
Starting point is 00:48:33 And I was like, why? I said, the first round, he had to play against this shooting guard. Second round, he got this shooting guard. Third round, he got James Harden. Like, look who he has to guard all three rounds and try to score. This man's burnt out. This is burnt out by the time he gets to the finals. Like, you just have it.
Starting point is 00:48:52 He do play well. Like, that's the thing. Like, your match-ups itself going in each round, because that lets us know how much energy you're exerting. Right? You know, if I'm the scoring guard, but I'm not playing no high-level guards, I get to conserve energy. Now, if I'm sitting there
Starting point is 00:49:09 playing Dame first round, now I got Brunson second round, and then my third round is against Haddenburg, and I'm like, God damn, I ain't got nothing for you. I ain't got nothing
Starting point is 00:49:21 for you, boss. So like I said, Bucks are one-7 without Dame. Should Dame be more aggressive now when he does come back, knowing that he may need to help Giannis take some of that workload off of him? No, he'd definitely have to be aggressive for them to win. Definitely more aggressive. That's when the playoff comes.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I think it's just, to me, I'm playing go-to-hell ball. I mean, you guys keep saying our coach can't make adjustments and all that. I'm playing go to hell ball if I'm Dave. Go to what? Go to hell ball. I'm playing go to hell, like just. Straight to it. Straight to it.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Go to hell, I'm playing go to hell ball. Get to it. I think that's the best bet. Yeah, I think you got to be more aggressive, for sure. You got to put up like 22, 23 shots a game. Get himself going instead of looking for everybody else. 25. Because that's what they brought him in for.
Starting point is 00:50:10 They brought him in there to hoop, not to, you know what I'm saying, set everybody else up. So. You need to be more efficient, more aggressive. For them to have a chance, Giannis got to do what he do. Dame got to have that 24 angle cut have that 24 ain't gonna cut it. Mm-mm. 23, 24 ain't gonna cut it.
Starting point is 00:50:28 That need to be 27, 28 in the playoff series in order for them to have a chance with Yonnas doing what he doing. Sprinkle in some Chris Middleton here and there. Bobby Portis gonna always play solid. Yep. Yeah, you're hard. Damn, you gotta play defense too. You gotta play defense. Is it still Bucks or Six, Mr. B?
Starting point is 00:50:52 It's just Bucks. Just win. Just win now. Just however many you take. Just gotta win now. Damn, if the...this could...I mean, shit, this could happen too. Pat Babb playing still. Hurt. Seven...the seven-eight, they play one game, right? Seven they play one game for the seven spot nine
Starting point is 00:51:09 Tay ten play to try to get to that a spot loser of seven a and then with him beat back and they play, Indiana Or Miami they can get Milwaukee first round That would be a doc first-round series facing his oh he gonna lose that so are you supporting me i guess so against his old team the sixers what no we're not losing against the sixers what do you mean who's weak listen there's two teams going on there's doc and his team and then there's the bucks the bucks and then it's Doc and whatever goes on up there, y'all. And the Bucks need to be the Bucks.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Hey, I know, I know. You know the funny part about it? I know everybody in Milwaukee is, they mad at me. Because they want to say... Yeah, they want to say something, but they can't because every day. Every day you can't wait.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Every day you can't wait. Every day you can't wait. They can't, they can't, like, it's over. Like, I don't need to do nothing else. 15 and 15, that's it. There's no coming back. There's no coming back. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:52:20 I mean, it's just bad to be playing like this towards the end of the season, too. The end of the season, that's when they got there. That's when they started 30. Well, I mean 13 like now you're looking at 15 and 15 It's kind of crazy only one time anybody who knows any other changes besides the coach. There's no trades and I like Not bad, you know, bringing the defense. You know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Bobby pours to him, then forces, so. I mean, Pat Babb, energy, and Bobby can win us some games in the playoffs. That's the help that we have as far as that. Like, we lost Drew. So, you know, we lost our defensive player, like, you know, our main defensive player.
Starting point is 00:52:58 So now you're asking, well, Malik Beasley, how tall is he? Like, he's kind of small. He's got a guard. You know what really exposed this year? Like Tatum. It exposed Lopez and Giannis' actual defense. You remember these guys were first-team all-defense. Giannis actually got mad that he didn't make the team.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Last year? Yeah, he didn't make the team, right? Last year. Yeah, he didn't make the team last year, and Lopez was first-team, right? So when you got guys that's high-level defense like that, and you're telling me what's changed, the only thing that's changed is some guy was covering up all y'all bad mistakes. Now that you don't have a guy covering up so when you get beat he's there right your guy getting ready to drive and he's sitting at the nail like nah not you're not coming you're not coming by here right so the fact that you don't have that anymore now you're
Starting point is 00:53:55 getting beat off the dribble lopez slow ass can't get there yeah so now y'all not the real defensive players. It just looked great because someone was covering up all y'all flaws. And then Drew was definitely, he was guarding different players. He wasn't just guarding guards. He was just guarding fours. Fours, everything. One through four. Yeah, he's guarding everybody, for real.
Starting point is 00:54:19 So that does make sense. Like, I was seeing shit, like, I was catching shit that it's not even his responsibility on what he was doing. Like, he'd do a switch, and then a guy's driving, right? He'd cut him off all the way over here. He'd come back, get a stick. He left his man. He ain't even take the actual switch. He switched, boom, and he just chased.
Starting point is 00:54:39 All right, I'm going to go here, snap back here. He getting a steal all the way over here, which makes everybody else look good. Now no one has those intuitions on that team. So it kind of makes like Dame don't play defense. No, the other man was just fucking Superman damn near defensively. So if you're the Bucs, knowing what you know now, knowing that Drew would end up with the Celtics, would you still make the Dame trade?
Starting point is 00:55:01 Knowing what I know, I mean no. No, if when I say no, they wanted offense, right? They wanted offense, that was their thing. They thought defensively we're okay enough to bring in more offense. I probably
Starting point is 00:55:22 would have still made the trade knowing that hey, this is what Drew did that actually helped us. But I would have still made the trade knowing that, hey, this is what Drew did that actually helped us. But I would have never hired Doc. Not me, personally. Not even though I don't like him. The fact that we're 30 and 13, how are we justifying this?
Starting point is 00:55:38 Because he's holding y'all accountable. He's making y'all do things that y'all don't want to do. But it's winning. It's leading to success, right? It's the whole thing with Michael Jordan and Jerry Krause. Michael Jordan hated Jerry, but at the end of the day, you're winning. He's bringing players like, yeah, he's not drafting the players you want, right? You want chicken.
Starting point is 00:56:00 He's selling it. We're going to give you some salmon, right? And that salmon is helping you win championships. So, you know what I mean? Sometimes you got to get out your own way sometimes. Let other people do their job. And he was. I don't care if you don't like him personally.
Starting point is 00:56:17 We're winning right now. At the end of the year, we'll see what happens. Then we can move him in. But I would have never moved him in the middle of the season. And I'm asking, who moved him? Who was like the main part main part was like, oh, yeah, let's make this trade. You had to go through Certain people that maybe don't pay attention to stuff like that I'm not saying yannis don't pay attention to no little defensive things that he was bringing Mm-hmm that he brought to the team, but maybe he wanted that trade and was like yo, listen
Starting point is 00:56:42 Yeah, go ahead and stamp that I think Dame over We've been there before where we don't really value Everything someone does right? We're only looking at one side like you know, man, you know Kmart man He ain't hitting this shot. I can't get down the lane, right? You know, we got a move and then we move him him. And then now defensively, I'm getting killed. Like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, Kmart gone.
Starting point is 00:57:07 Oh, shit. Our biggest game. Push him over here. I got it. Snap back. I got this. We only think how it can help us in our thing. And that's why when we talk about winning spirit sometimes, it's kind of like this flawed thing because most winners are selfish for themselves.
Starting point is 00:57:29 It's them that's selfish. They're only thinking about themselves. Someone has to be smarter than them to put winners around. Because if it's me, I'm only thinking about the offensive part of it. Like, yo, I don't like this guy. You need to bring in someone who can lift, keep the floor spread. But we're not thinking about the whole other side of the court right and that's what ends up happening with
Starting point is 00:57:50 players and yannis is thinking about the offensive part of the defense department yeah he's already thinking i'm the defensive player i got brooke lopez behind me bobby we can probably you know bobby middleton yeah yeah we can move him and you know bring in dame give us 20 20 extra points or 15 extra points, but it's nothing about the whole thing. When the Bucks were 30 and 13, I'm sure Giannis felt like they were underachieving from where they should have been,
Starting point is 00:58:12 adding Dame to the roster. Now they're 15 and 15 with Doc. Has anybody asked them, has anybody, I'm pretty sure they're not going to do it, but has any of the media asked, do you think signing Doc, do you think signing Doc was a smart move? No, we know now.
Starting point is 00:58:29 And I just want to see how long he pauses before he answers. That's it. That's all I'm looking for. And we know what answer he's going to give. I just want to see how long he paused. He got to rethink it. The pause length will tell you what he really feels. Um, um, uh, uh, no, no, no, we, this is a great...
Starting point is 00:58:47 That's the type of question they're going to tell him before, be like, yo, have your answer ready. Because he's going to just spring that on him. Why you always make sure you... Because you know whoever's springing that out, you ain't getting no more interviews about my guy. People don't... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:01 They don't know that happens. Yeah. Like, yeah, they're going to ask you this question, so have you, be like, all right, all right. Yeah, make sure you get this right. I don't know, happens. Yeah, they're going to ask you this question. So you're like, all right, all right. Yeah, make sure you get this right. I don't know. Just make sure you get this right. Yeah, they definitely asked me before I asked them.
Starting point is 00:59:10 They was like, what question do you want to ask? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They definitely asked me. People don't feel like you. You told them the truth or did you? Yeah, I told them. No, you got to lie. I had to.
Starting point is 00:59:17 You got to lie in those situations and still ask the question you want to ask. So we asked to chat and the numbers are still, the votes are still coming in. So I'm going to read it very slowly. Do you think signing Doc was a good idea? 93%. Damn. Said what? Yeah? Said no. Wait, 93? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:39 93% said. Still holding strong. Almost 700 voters did. Still going. Chad, get your votes in now. Not the brightest idea. But how much of this is on Giannis then? I mean, Giannis seems to have exerted a lot of control, obviously, being a franchise player. Getting Budenhoser out of there. Getting Adrian Griffin in there.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Getting Adrian Griffin out of there, getting Doc in there. I don't know if it's just Giannis. I mean, I don't think it's just Giannis, though. Not like get all the blame for it. I'm not going to say get him all the blame, but the Bucs obviously were consulting him. Hey, here's what we're thinking about hiring. Cool, roll with him. It's the general manager.
Starting point is 01:00:23 You've got to put the responsibility's the general manager. You got to put the general manager, you got to put the responsibility on the general manager, right? That whole thing was just a weird situation. Wasn't Doc the mentor for Adrian? He was consulting. Consulting what? He's a general...
Starting point is 01:00:37 That's it. I'm just saying, he got him, I don't know. It's a tough position to bring him in after he's supposed to be consulting.
Starting point is 01:00:45 So they had conversations about this internally with Doc about his, I don't know, it's weird to me. No, but who makes that decision? You'd never get the bottom of that question. To make the things go through, though. The general manager. But you know what? And that's like, if you ever listen, if, you know, when Jerry Krause's wife was booed, basically, because they put his face up there and they was booing.
Starting point is 01:01:06 I went and watched the history on what the problem was. And the problem really was Michael Jordan wanted certain things. Kraus wanted certain things, right? So basically, Kraus pulled one of these. Whatever Michael Jordan says, I'm just going to do the opposite, right? So basically Kraus pulled one of these. Whatever Michael Jordan says, I'm just gonna do the opposite, right? He's thinking with emotions, I'm gonna go think logical, right?
Starting point is 01:01:33 That's the same thing with every superstar. Most of the times our decision making is emotional. You know, it's who we are. Like that's what makes us great, that's what makes us great. That's what makes us bad sometimes. So, you know, the general manager has to be sitting there mindful, thinking,
Starting point is 01:01:51 is what he's saying illogical or is it from his emotions? And then go from there. So, you know, we 30 and 13 and he's sitting there, I want this motherfucker out. And they're like, okay, why? Well, he ain't let me get my
Starting point is 01:02:05 triple-double. Yeah, motherfucker, sit your ass down. Get out, mom. There has to be a stance where you are the professional mind that's supposed to oversee and make the smartest decisions. The player
Starting point is 01:02:22 at that point is damn near the janitor. Right? You know what I mean? The player is the janitor compared to everybody no one listens to the fucking janitor unless he's asking hey i need more help cleaning this right here right i need more help i gotta find my homeboy in the back he can help me clean he's he's a wizard with the. Yes, but I can't tell you the who's who oversees me Right and give you like it's just one of those things where there some some coaches get fired because the star player Ain't fucking with him like that no matter what the success is I haven't seen too many GM's get fired, but definitely coaches got fired because them and the player have been going head to head, but... My own GM got fired too? You had a bad GM?
Starting point is 01:03:07 How they treat you? See, I'm not that deep in it. I just... Oh, no. If you're the GM, I'm going to fire the coach before I fire myself. Shit. You ever go put the blame on me? Hey, hey, hey.
Starting point is 01:03:18 Hey, Kmart, I know I drafted you. My bad, but... I like that football shit. Like, football is normally the coach and the GM, they tie it together. Oh, they do? Like, basketball, yeah. There's no loyalty with them motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:03:32 But most owners in football, do they really actually... They're involved. They're involved. See, the NBA wasn't involved then. Right, so they're just going to... The GM is basically... The GM and the president do you. Right. And they're out there just making GM is basically your Jimmy and the president do you right?
Starting point is 01:03:45 And they have to just making these horrible making horrible decisions So we will continue to monitor here will continue to monitor the situation. We're not mine. Nobody. We are we are monitoring Doc doctor still time to call you and apologize for the all-star snub sitting this nigga through basket City center basket sit a nice little fruit basket. Two years straight, man. Two years straight. But now let's keep it moving with some hibachi time. So we don't talk a lot of Pistons on the show,
Starting point is 01:04:20 but we have to hit them today. So heading into the Pistons-Hawks game Wednesday night, Pistons reserve guard Malachi Flynn, who was on his third team this season, was averaging just 5.2 points per game for his career, but a career-best 8.2 points per game in 18 games with the Pistons, and he came through with his best game as a pro last night. So Flynn dropped a career high 50 points going 18 for 25 from the field, 5 for 9 from 3, 9 for 12 from the free throw line. His previous high was 27 points. And this was against the same Hawks squad that let Luka drop 73 points on them earlier in the season. The Hawks did get the win though and Jalen Johnson dropped his first career
Starting point is 01:05:02 triple-double to clinch a playing spot. But Flynn was the story of the game. He joins Jamal Crawford as the only bench player with a 50-point game in the 21st century. Look at him out there doing it. Still in the L, but it does not matter. So like I said, him and Jamal Crawford are the only bench players in the 50-point game of the 21st century. Flynn's career average bumped up to 5.4 points per game, which is
Starting point is 01:05:33 the lowest for a player with a 50-point game in NBA history. But Flynn now has more 50-point games than Magic, Bill Russell, Dr. J, Isaiah, KG. Don't do that. That starts. That starts. All of them dudes can buy it. point games the magic bill russell dr j isaiah kg that's how. They're going to take your shit. Here you go. Better than these players.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Shout out to our producers. He also has more 50-point games than Kawhi, Chris, Paul, Bosh. Pow, Dwayne. Y'all are crazy. Y'all are crazy. So what's the most random... How many points he averaged? For his career? No, right now. This year. Let me double check. So what's the most random... How many points he averaged? For his career? No, right now.
Starting point is 01:06:26 This year. Let me double check. So he was averaging eight with the Pistons, but this is his third team. Hold on one second. He can hoop, though. He's from Seattle, right? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:35 He's from Seattle. Yeah, he can hoop. Shout out Seattle. He was there last summer. Yeah, yeah. He was in Toronto, right? Yeah. He started with Toronto.
Starting point is 01:06:44 From Tacoma, he's averaging 8.2 points per game. Oh, no, so that's not his total. It's 5.3. So five with the Raptors. He was averaging two with the Knicks, and now he's averaging eight with the Pistons. It's all about situation, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Can you see players like Malachi putting up 50 pieces in NBA games? Motherfucker averaged five, dawg. Does it make you think about coming back to the league? I can play in the NBA, bro. He averaged five points. He can hoop, though. I can hoop too. It's all about situation, man.
Starting point is 01:07:29 He can get it going though. He can score that thing though. He all right though. I've seen him. Yeah. So what's the most random big game you saw a player have when you were in the league? What happened? Random?
Starting point is 01:07:44 Like a random big, like a random 50. Or just a big game from somebody you were least expecting to have it. What's that boy that was hooping from Indiana up in the bubble? We ain't never heard from him again. Warren? TJ Warren? TJ Warren, yeah. The bubble Jordan.
Starting point is 01:08:00 The bubble Jordan. Yeah. Where's he at? Philly right now? He's still in the NBA? He's the one he was hoping or Timberwolves He signed ten day they I think yeah for us a year. Yeah, he's on the Timberwolves currently set $50 Cory Brewer at 50 Somebody else had a random 50.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Just like, I got one, but I don't want to be petty no more. I got one. I don't want to be petty. I'm like, go ahead. This is Gills Arena presented by Hitman Fantasy. You are the king of petty. I don't want to be petty no more about this situation. Just say the name.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Nah, man. You know who I have beef with. Who don't you have beef with? Ex-teammate, man. You know who I had beef with. Who don't you have beef with? X-Team A man. You talking about Kwame? I don't know. He had 50? Nah, he had 30.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Like, dang it. Like, I ain't wanna do this, man. I don't have no beef, man. It was just a random one. Like, oh shit, cocaine, big fella. Cocaine. You were expecting this from you? Can we end the beat?
Starting point is 01:09:08 No, that's it. It ain't been no beat. You the one. Huh? I didn't say that. I was like, yeah, I got one, but you can't do that and not expect me to answer. I thought you were about to say, like, Peaches. Peaches, he had a cool 40 ball one time, didn't he? Really?
Starting point is 01:09:21 Peaches did? I think so. It was like 30-something. I might be tripping you? I think so it was like 30 something I might be tripping but I think so So we've got two men on this side of the couch who have both scored 50 points in an NBA basketball game so Gil and Brandon
Starting point is 01:09:33 how hard is it to score 50 points in an NBA game? It's not hard if you got it going I mean it's not hard if you're a player that's getting those type of shots up every night you know you got 82 games in you and one of those nights I mean, it's not hard if you're a player that's getting those type of shots up every night. Right?
Starting point is 01:09:52 You know, you got 82 games in you, and one of those nights, all you need is one night where you own. So, you know, players is out. You know, he gets to take those shots. He's on fire. I mean, it happens. Yo, you look back sometimes, you feel like, man, I left. Man, I could have had a 40. I could have had 50 this night. Like, if I night if I would have looked back at some of the games.
Starting point is 01:10:14 There's nights where you had a historic first half, tanked it in the second half. Started off horrible in the first half, popping in the second half. But when you do, it's the math of it, you're not going to have, like if you're a top scorer, you're not going to have too many games under double digits, and you're not going to have too many games as here, right? You know, most of your games is going to be anywhere from, if you average 30, anywhere from 19 to 35. That's going to be where your bread and butter is. So it's just trying to
Starting point is 01:10:47 stop those 9 to 17s and see how many 45s or 55s you can get. It's really just all magic. Just trying to be as consistent. Yo, how'd you feel about Kobe comments when he said you was just
Starting point is 01:11:02 throwing shit up there? He was low-key hating I know but see that's what I said I looked at it like like respect you you just a dude who has no conscience like right he's a uh you know the Jordans the AI they don't have no conscience they just in kill mode so for him to say he don't have no conscience That's all I thought about like oh shit a killer saying I'm I don't have a conscience. I'm on my way That's how I look at I didn't look at it like he just throwing shots up I'm looking at it from especially from someone like him saying he don't have a conscience. Oh Oh shit, oh cool
Starting point is 01:11:44 We have the same pay that We on the same page. That's better than, yeah that motherfucker was lucky. It's his birthday, that's the worst shit. Alright, okay. Oh, this nigga must be his birthday. Hey, I used to hate when motherfuckers used to say that. You have to have it 45. This is his nigga birthday, y'all.
Starting point is 01:12:04 You always find the bright side in every situation. All right, but let's keep this thing moving. Wait, hold on one second. We're out here getting it going. So how much harder is it to score 50 a second time after you've done it once and now guys know you're capable of doing it? No, it's... And now guys know you're capable of doing it Nice mm-hmm
Starting point is 01:12:29 Assume like that first one is the hardest Maybe the first one is the hardest because it's not for the same way. There's more pressure. I remember when moving up I remember when I was trying to they used to like talk shit that I couldn't score 50. Right? Ah, you almost had it. You had 46, right? 47. Just can't get 50. You scared of the 50, Gil? They used to make fun of it.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Like, you scared of the 50. And then I went from 50, I mean, I went from 47 to 60. And then I'm like, hell yeah, hell yeah, yeah. And they're like, well, you still didn't score 50. That is true hate right there. That's hate I can get down with. You know what I mean? So I guess that first one, because it's like you're really trying to do it.
Starting point is 01:13:16 It's like it's more stressful. Once you get it already, you're already trying to shoot for something else. So once you get 50, like, all right, 55 or 60. We'll bet it up.'s keep it rolling East maybe Do never know ever in your life like ever you score 30 good stop it. I'm just asking I mean 40? Don't try to dry head on me. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me ho.
Starting point is 01:14:04 Let me ho. Let me ho. Let me, you were a year older than me. I used to always love the nights you didn't play because I could look in the daily news and my shit would be nice. But then if it was a Gill night, I was about to drop 50 like an asshole. Mess up the whole function, but let's keep moving. East may be mid compared to the West, but Paolo Bancaro and the Magic
Starting point is 01:14:20 have been one of the most surprising teams in the league. So, Bancaro cooked the Pelicans Wednesday, putting up 32 points, 6 surprising teams in the league. So, Bankero cooked the Pelicans Wednesday, putting up 32 points, six rebounds in the win. He got a good game, man. I like watching this dude play. And this one right here, oop! Yam session.
Starting point is 01:14:37 So, the Magic are currently fourth in the East, half game behind the Cavs for the third spot. Woo! So in only his second season, Ben Carrow was named his first All-Star game. He's averaging 22.7 rebounds, 5 assists, shooting 46% from the field, 35% from three. So it's an interesting stat for y'all.
Starting point is 01:14:59 So Paolo is one of only four players to average at least 22.5 and 5 at 21 years old. The other players are MJ, LeBron, and Luka. Wait, wait, what? So one of four players to average at least 22, 5, and 5 at 21 years old. At 21? 21 years old. Other players are MJ, LeBron, and Luka.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Cap. I thought Weston was a part of it. Tyreek. That's why I was... No, he wasuka. Cap. I thought Weston was a part of it. Tyreek. That's why I was... No, he was 20. He was only 20. He was 25. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Come on, dawg. So wait. I said 22, dude. They can't drop it back down to 20. I'm just saying. Under a certain age, 21 and under, you just use the... You see what the... That age.
Starting point is 01:15:41 That's what they... You see... Now, they get mad when I point a little shit out like this. So, it's the age of 25. So, 20, 19, 18 don't count. So, players at 21 years old. I don't know if it was younger. But players at 21 years old.
Starting point is 01:15:58 To make it sound good. Jordan can't be there. They moved the number up. 22.5 points. Tyreek averaged 20. That's why he's not a part of that. But at 21, the number up 22.5 points Tyreek average 20 That's why he's not part of that but at 21 he averaged 25 and 5 Yeah, but they bumped it up so he was not there. And then Jordan wouldn't be there either Why wouldn't Jordan be there? Because when is his birthday?
Starting point is 01:16:19 February February 17 when is the season over with? June May or April depending on how boop you're doing. Regular season, because it's regular season award, right? April. April? So that means he would have turned 22 before the season ended, so we don't know what he would have... It don't count.
Starting point is 01:16:34 It don't count. It don't count. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Y'all using stats. I just got to correct you. Jordan was 22 at the end of this season, so motherfucker, that don't count.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I just read these stats just to watch you. Gotta be technical. You can't say nothing. I just throw them out just to... We're not doing majority because we don't know what people ages were in the middle of the season when he was doing this shit. Because that's everybody, god damn it, Dan.
Starting point is 01:17:01 That could be everybody. When he was 21, he scored 30 for five games. Stop, now. I just throw these stats out there just to watch Gil break them down in true fashion. But during a recent interview on the Rich Eisen Show, Apollo's head coach, Jamal Mosley, had high praise for the 20-year-old, saying, the thing about Apollo is he's so dynamic. To put him in line with just one player is hard to do because he has a passing ability of a LeBron
Starting point is 01:17:28 The scoring ability of a mellow and the basketball cue he has is just something incredible So why is it so difficult to Paulo for power to get more attention for how he's changing the culture in Orlando changing the culture in Orlando? Changing the culture? Just in Orlando? You know what I'm saying? Just change it for that squad. I'm just saying, if he was anywhere else, he'd be getting attention. It's just because he's in Orlando, I think.
Starting point is 01:17:52 What's wrong with Orlando? They got Disney World. It's just a smaller market. It's just for kids. Orlando is for kids. What's so funny, when Shaq and Penny was there... It was cracking. It was cracking. When Dwight was there, it was cracking. When Dwight was there, it was cracking, right?
Starting point is 01:18:06 Yep. Yep. Go ahead, say it. No, I'm just... We haven't paid attention. Isn't he in his second year? In his second year. God damn, y'all. Fucking relax.
Starting point is 01:18:22 What does he need to do? They're making the playoffs in his second year? Mm-hmm? Nobody has seen him on the national stage yet. Mm-hmm The first time sitting on that stage People will start paying attention to that like goddamn like less toys. It's trending in that there's any second year I mean rookie earlier like one wicked your last right? Mm-hmm Team in the playoffs this year trajectory is going where?
Starting point is 01:18:48 Goddamn. Let's see. He made also, he say, for what we've seen nationally, he's getting his credit. Okay. Okay. Yeah, we just ain't seen nothing. We ain't really seen nothing. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:00 Unless you're a Orlando Magic fan and you're tuning in nightly. Yeah, yeah. You know what? Yeah. That's all I'm saying. It was just like Indiana when, before they made it that play-in game, nobody knew who they were, right? I mean, obviously they got a lot of love during that in-season tournament run.
Starting point is 01:19:14 They did. It seemed to now have cooled off as the season has progressed. Well, yeah, them winning that and then the All-Star helped them. Huh? Indiana. Them winning, I mean, them being in the game, then All-Star helped them. Then once All-Star ended it all. Yeah, it was a wrap.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Enough of that. But when you look at this Magic franchise, they'll have nearly $50 million in cap space this off season. They got Paolo, Franz Wagner as a good kind of young duo. Should top free agents give the Magic series consideration this summer? You got guys like Paul George, who will be a... I'm just saying, if he's looking for his bread, if he wants all of his
Starting point is 01:19:48 money, they can give him all of the money that he's looking for. You're going to need like a like get like a Jalen Brown. Like guys like that. Ain't no star.
Starting point is 01:20:03 Ain't no star star. Do you want a star star? I mean, what? Nah a nose like why you know star star like do you want to start? I mean what no you don't want us all hard you got to come in I mean you got two potential star stars potential right so from there. You're just gonna be what building around them Yes, yeah, so you got 50 million go and get you some nice solid pieces Roper's most keep Moses roster man you getting And they got a log jam at the guard. Malik Monk. Yeah. They log jammed at that guard spot.
Starting point is 01:20:28 You know what I'm saying? They got like five point, four point guards. Five point guards. They got rid of one. What was the young kid that went basically, like I don't know if he went overseas
Starting point is 01:20:37 and came? R.J. Hampton. R.J. Hampton, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They need to stay the Malik Monk and like Harrison Barnes type vibes You think grab kind of hop to get a couple of not another on the go
Starting point is 01:20:49 Just a guard. It's PG. I think you go Philly before you anywhere. They got cast space this year, right? Hmm really good. Huh? You gotta pay turn. Oh PG. I said well Tobias can go back Oh, I got paid out. Yeah, they got a peter He's got a boss to go back to Orlando and Tyrese gonna get for pay Pay cut Atlanta now. You can get a movie in Lakers who? You who with the Lakers to buy tears Over who we need just somebody who shows up every night another solid piece to buy his hair show up every night. Yeah He's pretty solid
Starting point is 01:21:23 It's like it's one of those dudes where you look at his name, he be like, man, get rid of this mug. And then he be like, no, no, no, he playing all right tonight. I'll give you 60. I'll give you a solid number.
Starting point is 01:21:32 It'll be flashy or nothing, but it'll be solid. Like, that's the only part. He's consistent. Yeah, he's consistent. He's 15 throughout his career. No, he's consistent. 200.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Like, he's one of those guys where when you look at how much money he's made, he be like, damn. When you just look at the numbers, he's he's one of those guys where When you when you look at how much money he's made he like damn when you just look at the numbers like Most bread for any player who's never made an all-star game But I think that isn't really a knock on them because if he's getting that bread that ain't really nothing because the salaries done window Yeah, they have but I'm just saying if he's getting that bread obviously teams team see some minute to 11 shit That's something I mean, but if you Start game, huh?
Starting point is 01:22:09 All-star games, how is it back then if you take away because it in fluctuation it would be what one one ten one ten for us Unbelievable positions you're saying like Jimmy Butler. They had to get the money from somebody. You know what I'm saying? Like they couldn't just go get somebody. Sitting right there, give me that. He been in like two situations like that. But he had to pay them. They had to pay him. He was like, alright bet. He ain't gonna stay left.
Starting point is 01:22:38 He was like a Jeff Green. Jeff Green? Yeah, like Jeff Green's like, I mean he's been a while. He's been a while. He's been a while for a minute. You, what's so funny is like Tobias is in every trade rumor possible. He never gets traded because when you get ready to pull it and you look at his numbers like he's solid. And you just go ahead and just hold on to him a little bit longer. Lakers and go to state. But it does back to the magic.
Starting point is 01:23:03 It's quick. We don't feel like, you know, they got some good things ahead of them. And Kenya, to your point, this is their first season. Yes. In a long while doing it. You got to give it up. All-star team in his second year. Then the playoffs in his second year.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Just extended Jamal. Yeah, you gave me my for your extension But I like you saying it's the market because this is I mean there's other markets He was playing in you know Apollo would be getting a lot more than the world even I think I wouldn't say I don't know for sure, but I think Dwight and Shaq was doing a lot of love at year two more than Apollo is Yeah, but Yeah, but second Dwight listen checkq and Dwight were different. Listen, I'm... Shaq and Dwight were different. Yeah, listen, I know, I know.
Starting point is 01:23:46 I'm just saying, though. When something good comes through Atlanta, they normally put that on full display. All right, well, let's keep it going. So, Suns may have one of the hardest remaining schedules in the league, but appear to be clicking at the right time. Devin Booker followed up his 52-piece
Starting point is 01:24:00 on the Pelicans Monday by giving the Cavs 40. Wednesday night, D-Book's 740-point game this season tied the Suns' franchise record. KD also dropped 32 in the game. Suns are 6-2 in their last eight games, and with the win, they jumped to the sixth seed in the West for the moment, getting them out of playing territory. So what level will D-Book and KD have to take their game for the Suns to actually make a deep playoff run this season? Joe's Arena presented by the Darf Fancy. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:24:36 I mean, at this point, I mean, at West, it's the right matchups, right? I mean, it's really about having the right matchups, you know, getting to that point. You know, they faced Denver first round. You know, they had to play excellent basketball that whole series. And then from there, it's your road. I mean, someone's not making it. There's teams that just, no matter how stacked they are, they're not making it to the Western Conference Finals.
Starting point is 01:25:07 No matter what we say. You got Suns, you got Clippers, you got Lakers, you got Denver, you got Minnesota, you got OKC. There's only two. New Orleans. We can
Starting point is 01:25:23 kick them out. Y'all the weakest link, so we all praying for you. You know, so for the most, there's only going to be two. The rest going to be a disappointment, but you can't say it's a disappointment because they're fucking stacked. It's like when Jordan was in, you know, the Bulls. You're trying to make it to the championship. Jordan's there. You're like, fuck it, I'm about to go west, y'all.
Starting point is 01:25:46 I'm out of here. Charles Barkley, I'm out of here, y'all. I'm about to go to the west so I can face you in the championship. So we start seeing more dudes dipping from the west to duck some smoke, going back to the east. Because the east right now, I'm just saying, like, that shit is wide open beyond the top two spots, top three spots. I think Phoenix still need time to play with each other. I think with the injuries, I don't think it's enough to get over the hump hump like they need to.
Starting point is 01:26:12 I mean, they're going to make a run, but I don't. I think they're going to need like a summer or something to really get together healthy-wise. Because Bradley Bill's still not the same. You know what i've watched i i think they i think they sacrifice i think for the most part he sacrificed way too much oh yeah like he he's like he's he's swing swinging it way too much like it's like it came from katie it went from booker to katie and katie switched to me and i'm sitting here like, here you go, Gordon. Here you go, Allen.
Starting point is 01:26:48 Like, hell no. He's supposed to fire that. Once it goes boom, boom, then me, I'm third option. Let me go ahead and get this, right? And I think he gives, he trying to get them hockey assists or them straight assists. Like, nah, dog. This is when, once it went to them two, okay, y'all don't, okay, let me go ahead and get my thing I think he's making he's trying to
Starting point is 01:27:07 make the right play and the right play as you just go get a but you go get that bucket you got to keep yourself going to you're trying to be a point guard that's what they play like that's it's like your bucket you know saying like you know saying what the three scores mm-hmm that's why I always told people I was like they need somebody a game manager because it's like in points in time where Katie's come off pick and roll or date the book is but they're gonna get a That's why I always told people I was like they need somebody a game manager because it's like in points in time where Katie's come off pick and roll or date the book is but they're gonna get a bucket Yeah, me somebody just set it up. Just make it easy shot. Either is a drive and kick boom boom shot Well, they had that game that I mean, I mean they like to they do they have who they have on that
Starting point is 01:27:37 They have a ball. Huh? They had Chris Paul since he left. Yeah I mean, yeah, you're not gonna be I mean, yeah That's all I think they need for the fourth quarter, because the fourth quarter lasts in scoring, or they always lose the lead in the fourth quarter. They just might have managed it the last seven minutes, eight minutes. Yeah. Can Deacon be that guy, though?
Starting point is 01:27:57 He's there to get a bucket. When it gets down to it, natural scorers come into it. He come out with the pick and roll. There's two minutes left. They down, too. He's trying to score or maybe natural scores come into it. He come out with the pick and roll. There's two minutes left. They down, too. He's trying to score or maybe give it to KD. Like, if they have somebody also coming down, like the big man, that's a rim, like you throw it up to the rim.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Because Nurkic, really, you can't. So, nobody really has to suck in too much, Paul. You know what I'm saying? Very, very appropriate. Oh, yeah. Very appropriate, Paul. Yeah. So, if they had somebody who can do that and then somebody just manage the game, they would be a way better team next year. You already threw the next year. Oh, yeah. Very appropriate, Paul. Yeah, so if they had somebody who can do that and then somebody just manage the game,
Starting point is 01:28:25 they would be a way better team next year. You already threw the next year. Oh, yeah, it's over. Let's see what happens. That's two T's that I've thrown
Starting point is 01:28:34 into next year already. See y'all next year. See y'all next year. Next year. All right. But how much pressure is on them to win? You know, KD didn't
Starting point is 01:28:43 really want to talk about it when he was asked about it recently, but all the bread they're spending, all the money they've got committed to those top three guys, this doesn't feel like a next year type of situation. You know what I've noticed,
Starting point is 01:28:57 and I guess LeBron pointed out in his last podcast with JJ, he wasn't talking about this generation, he was just talking about that year they won it. He says Spoh went to, was it Oregon, to work out with the football coach to learn to spread offense, right? And then what they started doing that year is understanding when one attacked, the other one followed, right other one followed. So, you know, just naturally, you know, we're all ball watchers, right?
Starting point is 01:29:31 We're just naturally ball watchers. So the ball's there, my man's here, I'm tracking, right? You know, and they started doing it. When LeBron drove, D. Wade cut, right? When D. Wade was driving, LeBron was cutting. So they was doing that following track motion where one's coming, I go baseline and LeBron's coming because this man turned his back and he's throwing. That's how they was getting a lot of dunks. Denver doesn't do that. Boston don't do that. I mean, Denver actually doesn't.
Starting point is 01:30:02 I was going to say they do. Boston don't do it. Clippers don't do it. And Suns don't do it. Where you guys have that type of talent where with Booker's going, Beal should be tracking. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because everybody's sitting at the three-point line,
Starting point is 01:30:17 want to shoot these threes, and nobody's moving without the ball. And you guys are built for that. If you guys started driving and the other person's following too, that'd be hard to guard because now you're getting easy buckets because everybody's protecting the three-point line. And I'm like, the stars today don't play with each other. Like when LeBron had that ball, D. Wade is trying to follow. When D. Wade had it, LeBron was coming somewhere. Here, it's just one just going to sit in the corner, just... Not my turn yet. They sit at's just one just going to sit in the corner.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Not my turn yet. They sit at the five-minute mark. I get to shoot. So, good. You talked about LeBron and Spoh. So, let's get into it. So, during a recent episode of the Mind the Game podcast, like you said, LeBron talked about how Spoh took that unconventional approach after the heat loss to the Mavs in the 2011 finals.
Starting point is 01:31:05 When we lost to Dallas, he went to Oregon and hung out with Chip Kelly and learned to spread offense and tried to figure out if he could translate that to basketball. And don't know the super conversations that him and Chip had, but I know when he came back to us, he knew in order for us to reach our potential, one, I had to be fucking 10 times better than I was in that previous June finals,
Starting point is 01:31:33 but Chris Bosh had to go to the five. He had to start working on his corner three faithfully every day after practice, corner three every day after practice. We're going to post you up. We're going to get you your elbow catches. The offense is going to run through you at times.
Starting point is 01:31:46 But in order to bring the Tyson Chandlers out of the paint, in order to bring the Roy Hibbers out of the paint, in order to bring Kevin Garnett
Starting point is 01:31:56 out of the paint, you got to at least be a threat. The Bosh spacing, what did that sort of unlock? I'm curious. What were the actions? The cutting.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Slot cut? The slot cuts. The slot cuts. The slot cuts. It unlocked the slot cuts. It unlocked exactly what myself and D-Wade thrive on. Dribble penetration, slot cut. Pick and roll happens, you tag, slot cut.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Yeah. It unlocked all that. So Gil, I have a question. So how important is it for coaches in the league to get out of their comfort zone to find the best ways to maximize their roster? What? How important is it for coaches in the league to get out of their comfort zone to find the best ways to maximize their roster? You've got a lot of coaches who are stuck in their ways,
Starting point is 01:32:50 regardless of what the roster looks like. Look, it's... Coaches can put anything they want into the game, and, you know... You know, I think the idea of he seeing what his roster is and trying to maximize the players on his roster. It was the same thing with when, I mean, I'm pretty sure, no one went to go see a football coach when these motherfuckers, when Jason Kidd had the ball and these motherfuckers,
Starting point is 01:33:16 and you sitting there trying to tag the whole goddamn team. No one, that was them, right? Understanding what each other does best and trying to play off whole goddamn team. That was them. Understanding what each other does best and trying to play off of each other, that's still the IQ of the team itself. It's understanding like, Jason Kidd has the ball
Starting point is 01:33:37 here and he's pulsing up. We're focusing here. Who's cutting now? Richard Jefferson came to the rim and then While he came Kenya Martin done slashed through Watch out right in his vice versa. So it's still a Coaches thing to find out what his players do, but it's still players jobs to maximize Spacing and Their custom sales like no one cuts anymore jobs to maximize spacing and
Starting point is 01:34:05 Their custom sales like no one cuts anymore I know no one cuz there was a thing called the Paul Pierce cut right there was a when no one's Focused on Paul Paul went right boom cut right in front of you seal. Let's go You know, they don't they don't do that anymore. That's very important to, especially this guy. You got so much talent here. So how many people have you seen were average coaches that developed into great coaches over time? That was average coaches that developed to great coaches?
Starting point is 01:34:41 Yeah. Sure. What? Yeah, I'm trying to. Because they don't all come out winners, Josiah. You know that, right? They all don't come out and they first try. They got to start at some place. So I think they all, whoever is one,
Starting point is 01:34:58 they consider a great coach. They all was mid at some point. Because we say like start off with like you know okay coaches we talk about from the back because you know suppose started all the way in the back doing video coordinating then he came to the front he got better and better but yeah yeah i don't know why he's came straight to the bench it was like but how many coaches don't get better i guess is the question like a lot of them i knew i i knew that was so then that i knew that was coming. I knew that was coming. So the talent base you could cover up.
Starting point is 01:35:31 Yeah, you got Doc, you got Andre Chevalier. You know what's so funny? Okay, so, but that's the thing. Is it, is it, are they bad coaches that became great coaches, or were they just great coaches that got better players around them that helped them look better? Or there's some coaches that are bad that got great talent to make them look like they were great coaches.
Starting point is 01:36:01 So is Phil Jackson a good coach? I think he... I mean, a great So is Phil Jackson a good coach? I think he... I mean, a great coach? Is Phil Jackson a great coach? I think we consider that because he got the best out of the best players, everybody that was around. He got the best out of the... Put systems in to fit what he had.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Yeah, I would say that. They didn't wait until he got there. Yeah, I would say that. Yeah, you know, that's the thing. Like, when you talk about coaching, you can't go off of record. You have to go off of how they're managing all those players. Like, you know what I mean? So, you know, Phil managed the egos of everyone around him for everyone to play great.
Starting point is 01:36:44 There's some guys that has a whole bunch of great talent, and they can't do nothing with it, right? That's why I go at Doc, because I looked at a record, Doc, and it doesn't make sense to his accolades, right? Yeah, he has the most winning, he has one championship, but he is leading the pack and the most Hall of Fame players coached so when it comes to all the coaches that ever played he's
Starting point is 01:37:11 done he's done touched the most talent he's done coached he's on his team he has the most Hall of Fame players shitty just added two more he just added two more motherfuckers, Giannis and Dame to the resume. He's touched the most Hall of Fame players and he has won championships out of them. Shit, Brooke Lopez is going to be a Hall of Fame. Damn, I ain't even mad at
Starting point is 01:37:35 that motherfucker. I'm just saying. Shit, I ain't even mad. If you're watching basketball, if you know basketball, fuck yeah, Brooke Lopez is going to be. I ain't saying he's first ballot or no shit like that, but eventually Brooke Lopez will be a Hall of Fame, dog.
Starting point is 01:37:51 He expanded his game, changed his game, started making threes, shot black, won a championship. Man, you're going to have to add that to him too, though. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 01:37:59 if you really know basketball, his career with the Nets, his career with here, the motherfucker had a solid career. He would know better. He career with the Nets, his career with here, like the motherfucker had a solid career. He would know better, he would know more than me. How was Larry Brown
Starting point is 01:38:10 as a coach? I think he was a great coach. He was a great coach? He was tough on people. I think he was a dick to play for if you, but not all coaches
Starting point is 01:38:20 are liked, right? Everybody ain't gonna like every coach, but if he get the best out of his guys and he hold everybody accountable, I would say Larry Brown, he just, everybody didn't like playing for him, of course, but
Starting point is 01:38:31 sometimes it's just hard to judge like coaches because, like somebody, like let's say Chauncey, right? This is his first year. You can't give him a grade. You can't give him a grade. You can't give him a grade right now. The way we travel, plan, emotions, trying to figure out the best of everybody. This is like your first year always has to be, especially if you have a bottom feeding team.
Starting point is 01:39:03 It's your trial run. Let's see what the training camp, next year's training camp, or this year's training camp, and how he looks starting off next year and going from there. Like some guys are building coaches. They put structure into these young guys, and then once they do that job,
Starting point is 01:39:19 someone has to come in and take them to the next level. Someone has to come in and take them. There's championship coaches. They only know how to the next level. Someone has to come in and take them... There's championship coaches. They only know how to coach championship talent. I need the smartest of the smartest, and I know how to manage that. If you put this guy and put him in here, he's going to look bad.
Starting point is 01:39:38 You take a Lamborghini or a Bugatti and you put it in five o'clock traffic, that car ain't worth shit. Prius is moving at the same speed as his motherfucker, right? But if you put it on an Autobahn, goddammit, the Prius gets your fucking ass off this. So it all depends on where these coaches get put. So that's how you have to evaluate the coaches. The position they put in.
Starting point is 01:40:00 So when I say doc, they have you as a championship-minded coach. So that means you're only going to coach certain type of talent. Now, when you've coached this talent, you haven't been really successful at it. So the space that they're putting you in, they're calling you a Bugatti of a coach. That is actually not your fucking car. You, you, you might be an S600, which is fine. The S600, you deal with teams like Indiana.
Starting point is 01:40:29 That's your group of guys. Indiana, Orlando, this year's Orlando. Stay right there. That's your pack. You start jumping to this elite type of teams and you're not successful at that, dawg.
Starting point is 01:40:48 So I'm grading you off of being a Bugatti, and that's where it comes from, and I'm like, ah, nah. He's not it. Mm-mm. You asked 600, baby. So a question for all of you. Ty, we'll start with you.
Starting point is 01:41:00 Who's the best basketball mind that you've been around? The best basketball mind i've been around yeah the one that taught me the most i'll say for real was one of my assistant coaches i'll say melvin hunt okay because he's the one that really like we worked on my game and actually like did stuff after practice you know remember yeah so Hunt? Yeah, so he was in the gym from doing floaters or getting my shot off in the mid-range because I know him
Starting point is 01:41:29 either shoot or go into basket and might get it blocked. He would teach me that. He was showing me clips of me on the outside reading the defense. If I'm coming off pick and roll,
Starting point is 01:41:38 reading that. So I feel like he just taught me the most when I really was the most vulnerable with my rookie in the second year. Shout out to Melvin Hunt, man. Okay, how about you? Who's the best basketball mind that you've been around?
Starting point is 01:41:49 Sheesh. Or some of the best? Probably Tim Gergich. Gergich is a legend. Probably Gergich. He done forgotten more about basketball than I can ever know. So, and that was... Yeah, Gurg. Now Gurg was the Kenyan whisperer. The Kenyan whisperer?
Starting point is 01:42:16 Yeah. Remember that day he died on the field at Utah and scraped his whole shit up? He was with the Nuggets, obviously with George Carle, with the Sonics. I think he was with Tark back in the UNLV day. Now, Gerg is, yeah, he's that, man. But I've been around some decent players as well. Been on the team. Of course, I played with Jay Kidd.
Starting point is 01:42:36 I played with Chauncey. Andre Miller's underrated smart. So, yeah, I've been around some good basketball minds, man. And Brandon, how about yourself? Best basketball mind that you've been around? Uh, Anthony Goldwire. He's assistant coach, um, with Calvin Sampson in Houston. He was one of my coaches in Milwaukee.
Starting point is 01:43:02 And I'd probably go with Stan Van Gundy just because the details of the game and every day and the way he prepared and you know he really actually made me love the game even more just by being prepared in the details of it so and that's when I was playing my best. Gil how about yourself? Best basketball mind that you've been around? It was Lute Olsen. Okay. But it was Bear Down, Lute Olsen. Eddie Jordan was good, but Eddie Jordan was just one-sided.
Starting point is 01:43:44 You know, it was the Princeton. But overall, probably that dickhead that he just named. I knew you was going to... He was going to hate to say it. He didn't want to give him his credit. I was going to ask you who was that dickhead that he just named. That's what I've always said. If I had a team and they're all young I'm the first person I'm gonna go higher Just I did you know I'm a people person so he eat that's poor he's horrible at that Right and I just thought that our team was so good that
Starting point is 01:44:17 His negativity is what fucked the team up, you know, but he couldn't help it You know he is where he is but you know when it came to like X's and O's and being prepared, and I used to just watch, watching his plays. He'll call a play or do a play, and I'll take that motherfucking pen and be... Oh, okay, that makes some sense. I didn't see that before. You know, so, you know, when Steph, like, his X's and O's,
Starting point is 01:44:47 like, he was, in my mind, he was top three, top four that I've seen. That's what's up. Even though you don't, you didn't like him, still. Just kidding. You gotta give him credit where credit is due. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:45:00 If I had a team, and I'm like, all right, I need to get this team. My job's on the line. Stan, I need Stan. Oh, no, I'm like, all right, I need to get this team my jobs on the line Staying I need staying. Oh no, even a motherfucker I can't stand like if he was if he could only coach one side of the ball Mm-hmm, like if there was an offensive coordinator in basketball in the defense coordinator Fucking George car like I ain't gonna hold you like it was that like he just coached one side of the ball. Oh, he's okay, right? We scored a shit out the ball, like putting fast, all that shit.
Starting point is 01:45:27 Yeah, but there's more to the game than that. We weren't prepared at fucking all. But, these motherfuckers, we're going to play fast. We're going to play fast. Donnell, we're going to play fast. We're going to get that motherfucker up the deck. What second did you get it up? What?
Starting point is 01:45:40 I'm saying between this nigga and getting that ball out the top, moving like a motherfucker out of that bitch, like, let him go. You know, that kind of like is, you see how like we, even though we hate someone or dislike them, we will still give them their credit where it's due. And it really shows that when it comes to players, we evaluate everything.
Starting point is 01:46:06 We're judging every, we're judging your out-of-bound calls, goddammit, your plays, and even though we know it's wrong, we still run it just to show you that the shit ain't working, right? We still gonna run this motherfucker just, so when someone says, yo, why you ain't playing well?
Starting point is 01:46:23 The dude with the suit with the tie. Him. It's him right there. So when you're sitting there judging everybody's careers and we give you a take and you don't like our takes, trust me, we are correct in what we're saying. It's just you're not hearing it for the first time. Like, we know this motherfucker's great at offense, horrible on defense. But you're saying I, horrible at defense. But I'm...
Starting point is 01:46:45 You're saying I'm horrible at defense. All of us is horrible because that motherfucker didn't give a shit today. He ain't prepare us to stop this motherfucker whatsoever. We lost in the Western Conference Finals, dog. Two games on the exact
Starting point is 01:47:01 same fucking play. Inbounds play, right right trying to zipper mellow up It took it away Uh-oh a see through the ball away after the Carter threw the ball away the first game My ass threw it the way the next game Zipper is taking out of bounds taking the ball out on the side I We did we did that on top. No, I remember I wasn't there though. I seen on TV I remember a I sitting there it was on the zipper, right?
Starting point is 01:47:35 Hey, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna get this one Fuck out of here. All right, I'm getting this one came up I'm getting this one Came up Tried to I I see him and I'm trying to hurry up and get it in turn because I see I'm trying to cheat through it So I'm trying to hurt because there's only a couple seconds left So I couldn't hold them off get it and then try to get my momentum So I'm trying to get it in turn ran right through it Wow Game over a lot. Fuck ever since then told Coach, I don't like zipper. I want to, like,
Starting point is 01:48:08 if we're going this way, I want to come at the rim so I can keep my momentum, especially if it's under three seconds. Right? Think about you trying to zipper up under three seconds, get the ball,
Starting point is 01:48:17 then try to turn and face. I'm wasted. Right? So I want to come across or I want to keep my momentum. And that was something that I had to learn because I'm like, well, I'm not quick, I'm fast.
Starting point is 01:48:30 So trying to get the ball and actually turn, that's not my attribute. So I need to try to figure out how to cheat this movement and come this way because Allen Iverson stole it. Because I'm trying to figure out how to hurry up and turn on him and little ass.
Starting point is 01:48:47 Damn. Thank you. Game over. Fuck off the court. This man. I want to hit on something you said earlier that even if the coach installs a bad play on the offensive defense, you'll still run it to try to show. You'll run it to try and hopefully see that they'll think it's the wrong play.
Starting point is 01:49:04 But at what point do you tell them, like, I guess how much are they going to be stuck in their ways and blame y'all for not running it right versus acknowledging the minute. They'll see every time we don't score. You remember, you remember who, you know who subs us in, right? You know who puts us in the game, who subs us in? Yeah, that same coach. So when he say, call this play. Got you.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Hey, same shit. Give it to him. You seen it. Motherfucker throw the ball over there, and then they start walking back on defense, and walking to the other side, they not even interested. That's one of those plays. Until you get that relationship, if you say something back like, oh, yeah, this ain't working, You know, walking to the other side, they not even interested. That's one of those plays. Yeah. Until you get that relationship, if you say something bad, like, oh, yeah, this ain't working,
Starting point is 01:49:51 now you uncoachable, or you this and that, it goes around the league. So most times you're like, all right, bet, I got you. Run the play, and then, are you going to run it again? Bet. Don't worry about it. You know what I'm saying? Especially y'all. Y'all don't go on that sort of shit.
Starting point is 01:50:01 We got you. Listen, I'm coming out. You know what I'm saying? So unless it's, team, then you can like got a little leeway. How frustrating is that as a player? You've talked about it on the defensive side. They're not making the adjustments, but now you run the risk of getting cooked. Getting cooked, but also being looked at as difficult or, you know. Oh, well, look at me as difficult.
Starting point is 01:50:22 I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to go out there. No. You know what? I heard someone say it. It probably was Tim Tebow. He said, a playbook is a coach's thoughts, right? It's the playbook.
Starting point is 01:50:43 You know, have the relationship with the coach himself. Usually the people who like the playbook get along with the coach. The people who hate the playbook don't like the coach, right? That's usually how that works. So if you have the relationship with the coach himself themselves that playbook really don't matter because it's you You're gonna be able to play outside the playbook because you had the personal relationship so he was like the the thing to do is For you to want to love this playbook. You got to want to love the coach. So somehow You got to stroke his ego
Starting point is 01:51:22 because they're the You got to stroke his ego. Because the worst thing to do is have a motherfucker sit at home all day working on these plays, sitting there in his office hours and hours and hours of he thinks there's some great-ass plays, and then your ass come in there and challenge it. Like, oh, no, this sucks. He's been up all fucking night, ain he slept, baby crying, wife bitching, because he's spending too much time in the office, and you're telling him, I don't want to run into him. Yeah, I don't want to run into him.
Starting point is 01:51:51 Yeah, that's it, man. Yeah, you're the doghouse for sure, goddammit. He done told this man, he done wasted his goddamn time. So it happens when you challenge someone's playbook or challenge someone's plays, you really have to understand the process of everything they put into that shit Interest this place 17 times. Yeah I'm gonna put them over here. We don't put them over there. He got he lining his kids up at home shit
Starting point is 01:52:20 Tears involved let him where you gotta let him see it for himself. That's a slippery slope. You're going to be like, yo, this is trash. Now it's a rapper. You can't do that. You can't do that. That's what I'm saying. Now it's a rapper. Now you're doing uphill battle for the next three months.
Starting point is 01:52:34 You're like, damn, I told you this shit's trash, man. Which is messed up even from a fan viewer perspective because you are going to get blamed no matter what. Defense not working. They come in at you. The offense not working. They're saying you're not doing your job right very rarely but everything works out y'all might have to call the audible whatever uh great coaching you know i mean it's just you kind of damn if you do damn
Starting point is 01:52:53 if you don't type of situation i've never said this before this was game hold on this was game... Hold on, hold on. We'll wait. This is a live show. We are off the cuff. This was game... I'm in Orlando. Orlando 2011 playoffs. Gil has the phone out.
Starting point is 01:53:31 In the meantime, download the Underdog Fantasy app, use promo code Gil, and they will match your first deposit up to 100, 100 whole dollars, 100 hundred dollars. This game, hold on. And you get a free pick. Everybody, everybody going through Shot chart hold on hold on play-by-play fourth quarter You built the anticipation you've built the hype
Starting point is 01:53:58 We'll wait, okay, so look so it was game It was game I'm cooking this game, so, you know, because I didn't get along with Stan. Game four, it was game four. We in... We at the Hawks. And I'm cooking.
Starting point is 01:54:16 I got... I think... So Jason Richardson just got suspended. Him and Zaza, I think, they just got suspended, so he has to play me. So he... He got to put me suspended. So he has to play me. So he got to put me in. There's nothing he can do, right? So I'm cooking.
Starting point is 01:54:32 We down three. And I got 20. I got 20 in 20 minutes. And, you know, down three, 10 seconds left. I'm like, hell yeah yeah by the eyes of this motherfucker and I heard give it to Turk and I'm like
Starting point is 01:54:49 get the fuck out of here I got him balling and then I had thought about it yep I'm gonna do just that hey
Starting point is 01:54:58 there you go Turk got it fumbled it do him a fuck up like that game over I'm sitting there like, I looked at him like, yeah, right there, motherfucker, uh-huh. That's a chill-ass kid. Don't ever stop me from doing what I was about to do.
Starting point is 01:55:16 Don't ever say that shit again. It was, we lost, and I'm happier than the motherfucker in there just knowing, yeah, you should have just shut the fuck up and let me do what I was going to do. But I did regret, like, damn, I done thrown the game. Thrown the game. How are you throwing the game by doing exactly what? Because I know he wasn't ready to play. He was done.
Starting point is 01:55:37 He was done. I already knew he wasn't. I already knew what time he was on right here. That's why I was shooting all the motherfucking shots. That's our ego, too, though. That was my ego. My ego said, I bet. Go ahead. Muffa got it. It be like that sometimes.
Starting point is 01:55:51 You be like, oh. That was one of those. I ain't gonna shoot tonight. Yeah, that was one of those. I did. I did that a couple times, too. Yeah, I ain't gonna shoot tonight. Muffa be like, yeah, we better without him. Oh, okay. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 01:56:09 Uh-huh. Ain't got, ain't got. Gil, you open. Nah, nah, nah. Y'all better without me, goddammit. Just pretend I ain't here. Nah, Coach told me I was shooting too much. He was stopping and rewinding too much.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Here, I'm going to make sure you get it this time. Uh-huh. Go ahead. There you go. Yeah. The life of a... Yeah. I mean, I've done it. I've done it. I've done it plenty of time. I did in my second year
Starting point is 01:56:28 We was playing the Knicks and because Antoine Went scoreless Went scoreless against the Blazers. He has zero and then he was complaining about not getting the ball and you know, I Shot I had Dave Stoudemire on me You had bonds he got name it look like he was playing some good defense I go keep forcing so we play the six the next day and we playing the Knicks and you know they was complaining so I didn't shoot the first the first three quarters then Earl Boyd's like man fuck that man we
Starting point is 01:57:01 need you to win so I thought alright last last minutes, I just started going iso basketball. We ended up winning. And then I did it again in Washington against Toronto in Toronto when they was complaining about the ball. And I only had seven, but I only shot at the end of the game to get the win. So I've done it. I go live. Always learn something. They be bitching in there. Huh?
Starting point is 01:57:28 They be bitching in the locker room. I know, for real. They be bitching in the locker room. They be like, nigga. I ain't even like that. Like, I ain't even like that. All right, bitch ass nigga, hide your ball, dog. Don't do your thing.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Do your thing, pimp. Always learn something. Until that shit work out, right, motherfucker? You like, yeah, man, I'll do it. Mother got 48. Like, aw, bitch. Mother gonna want the ball now. I'm like, I'm gonna go get it.
Starting point is 01:57:44 I'm gonna go get it. I'm gonna go get it. I'm gonna go get it. I'm gonna go get it. I'm gonna go get it. always learn something until that shit work out right motherfucker you like yeah man I'll do it motherfucker got 48 like oh my daddy motherfucker gonna want the ball now so as a reminder ladies and gentlemen Gil's Arena
Starting point is 01:57:53 will be live in Hollywood Sunday April 14th 6pm at the El Rey Theater we can proudly announce the tickets are on sale now so we've dropped and pinned the link in the chat.
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Starting point is 01:58:19 There ain't going to be no food trucks, y'all. Not because of us. They know there's going to be hungry people out there waiting in line. The venue's gonna be, I mean, the venue's gonna be, they're gonna have drinks and stuff, though, right? They'll have some beverages. I'm not trying to be. Popcorn and what, a pretzel?
Starting point is 01:58:35 Beverages and food in the right situation. Nah, it's a club, right? It is a club. So they got food. Oh, nachos? Nah, they got real food, man. Like chicken tenders, fries? They got real food, man.
Starting point is 01:58:44 It's a club. We'll have some beverage for y'all who like to get inebriated. Oh nachos. No, they got real food like chicken tenders We'll have some berries for you like to get in a pretty and as a Josiah gonna give our free shots. He gonna pay you gonna pay the venue for some shots Josiah Yeah, I actually do have it now the director positive hit for April. See y'all bless underdog fantasy Got a little nervous last night about 1158 Refreshed. I got a little nervous. Where's the bread? Where's the bread? Was not going to show up to work today.
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Starting point is 01:59:26 you know, for a chat that isn't super appreciative of all the love that we give, y'all gotta be thankful, man. We are trying to give back to y'all. Make sure y'all come support.
Starting point is 01:59:34 Whole Crew will be there April 14th, El Rey Theater. Now let's move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by our friends at Underdog Fantasy. Mostly Fans. Underdog gotta start
Starting point is 01:59:44 doing the higher or lower. How many? Yeah. They're Underdog Fantasy. Mostly fans. Underdog got us started doing the higher, lower. How many? They're not all. Not only fans. It's mostly fans, all right? Some of y'all do not rock with it. Coach off guard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:55 So we've got a video question from Underdog user Y3Official. Yo, what's good? Gil Zerino was cooking, man. Question one, what team do you think in the Western Conference is going to be the biggest upset in the first round? And question number two, if you had to go to the bar right now, you're in the club, what is your drink of choice? What's the number one bet? Is those teardrops? Answer the question.
Starting point is 02:00:24 No, no. Okay. Now, he said he was cooking, and he was at a barbecue on that grill. Is those teardrops? Answer the question. I'm looking. Okay. Now, he said he was cooking, and he was at a barbecue on that grill. I seen that little-ass grill he had. Yeah. He had a little-ass grill. So what's going to be the biggest upset in the first round of the West,
Starting point is 02:00:36 and what is your alcoholic beverage of choice? First, I'm going to say just I don't think there's going to be an upset. Sure, girl. What about the Lakers? Because if Minnesota loses to Phoenix or Lakers, is that an upset with losing Kat? With no Kat? No Kat. I mean, that's not going to be an upset.
Starting point is 02:01:05 OKC losing in the first round to Phoenix, Lakers, Golden State. I mean, are we going to be, is that an upset? I mean, the upset would be the Lakers beating Denver in the first round if they got one. Expect it. Expect it. But really, that wouldn't be an upset, right? If Lakers beat the Lakers in the first round.
Starting point is 02:01:28 After losing in the minimum amount of games allowed last year in the Western Conference. Yeah, that's an upset. No, that's an upset. Denver is a protected team. If they lose and don't make it, if they lose in the first round, no one's going to be like, oh my God, this is the biggest upset. They're just going to pretend this shit happened and go, all right, round two. Lakers versus, like, if... Think about it. Let's be honest.
Starting point is 02:01:47 We are smoking a Nuggets pack. We are. You already know. We are. No one else is. Right? Because it's so stacked down there. If they play the Clippers, the Clippers win. No one's... It's... Them bottom teams are so goddamn good
Starting point is 02:02:04 down there. They got so much. They got Hall of Famers down there. So that. Remember, there's two Hall of Famers. There's two Hall of Famers on the Lakers. So the Lakers beat the Denver. They're like, yeah, Ron James and Anthony Davis just came to play. And isn't it?
Starting point is 02:02:21 Like, I mean, really? Like, the Nuggets will get packed up. Phoenix got three Hall of Famers. Clippers got four Hall of Famers. Like, what the fuck? So, Denver, technically, when it comes to straight talent, they're probably... They probably have the weakest talent on the team.
Starting point is 02:02:46 They're just so great as a team. So, eh. Whoever they beat in the first round, they upset it. Damn it. Right? Nah. If Lakers was one and Denver was eight. If it was that way.
Starting point is 02:03:03 If it was that way, everybody's like, yeah, I mean, shit, the only guy at Yoke is everybody else. But that's not the case, man. No, that's not the case. I mean, yeah, I mean, it might not be an upset. I look at it from a talent standpoint. I mean, it might not be an upset on the West Coast, but probably East. Like, if you said the East, like if Boston was to lose or Milwaukee, like that would be an upset. If Boston loses, yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:22 Milwaukee lose, eh. Y'all already, I mean, y'all got your ass whooped last year. I don't think y'all can disappoint. We got our ass whooped last year? No, I'm just saying, y'all lost to the AFC last year. Right, because Giannis was hurt. So if y'all lose to the 7C this year, it's like, eh. Yeah, it's all right.
Starting point is 02:03:41 They're moving up. Lose to the 6-E next year. Basically, the only team that actually has pressure is Boston. That is crazy. I see Milwaukee too, though. You think Milwaukee is? They're going to be at Dockhead. They're going to be at Dame, all that shit.
Starting point is 02:04:00 They're going to be at everybody. I think there's pressure on the Clippers, man. Clippers? Mm-hmm. What the fuck they have? I'm just saying, I think there's pressure on the Clippers, man. Clippers? Mm-hmm. We ain't even paying.
Starting point is 02:04:08 Where the fuck they at? I'm just saying, I think there's pressure on the Clippers. With all the hype surrounding that Harden trade, what they're supposed to do. All the shit that they did to get him there and all the shit that's been happening over the last year with Jack. Come on, man. If they lose to Luka, that's going to be upset? No, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 02:04:20 They can't beat that motherfucker? I just think there's pressure. Yeah. But I don't think there's an upset. But, yeah, I just think there's pressure. If New But I don't think there's an upset. But, yeah, I just think there's pressure. If New Orleans win, that's an upset. Okay. If New Orleans beats anybody in the first round, that's an upset.
Starting point is 02:04:37 They're kind of tough, though. They ain't bad. No, they defend. And they defend. The Pelicans are intrigued. If they beat Denver, they beat Minnesota everybody. Yeah, that's what they play The Clippers they might revamp they lose this year bombing not paying all that bread I'm gonna matter man. I'm gonna be fine. Even if they don't do it this year be alright They're going to a new arena next you think so. I got it. I'm over here. This is a now. It's the best shot
Starting point is 02:05:03 No, they hit it. It is. It's the best shots want to win now. This is their best shot. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's their best shot. It's their best shot. This is the best team they've ever had. When it comes to talent. You're just looking at on paper. Yeah. On paper, this is the best team that's ever been assembled.
Starting point is 02:05:15 They kind of old. It's the best team they've ever had. They kind of old. Well, so, I mean, this is their best win. Because you ain't going to get this much talent again on the Clippers. They're not better than that CP3 team. It is when they was rolling. Yeah, right You got four Hall of Famers on a team for four Half them washed who who yeah, who's that one washed?
Starting point is 02:05:37 Who's washed or Washed. You put Westbrook on Indiana. He's not averaging triple-double again? No, not right now. What's stopping him? What can he do? Score? You don't say he can average 10? He's going to get 10 assists with that team.
Starting point is 02:06:02 He's going to get 10 rebounds because that's what he's going to do. So he's going to average a triple-double just like he did two years ago. I just think it's cool. I mean, whatever. I guess. I mean, you've got a triple-double sitting on the bench and you've got 30. Well, do it then. Do it now.
Starting point is 02:06:17 You can't. He's not on a team that he can do that on. He could have did it on the Lakers. How? Ask the man to go to the bench. And that spacing was different. They had no spacing. That's what you're talking about.
Starting point is 02:06:27 I guess you can't do it then. If you can do it, you can do it. No, you can't. That's just like saying, Bill, go out there and score 30. I got two motherfuckers right here. If you can't score 30, you can't score 30. I can't. You're not like that then.
Starting point is 02:06:42 We just had an argument with McCann. You're not like that. You were just saying that. You can't do it because you got two motherfuckers right here That's right in the way But i'm saying he can score 30. So go do it. He can't if the opportunities were there Dog, you just argued this but you said he can't score 30 like he can't ever score 30 I'm saying he can do it. So do it And russ can go out and get in trouble. Well, then it? I get 12 minutes again. I get 12 minutes again dog So you want to school the triple-double in 12 minutes? Well show that I mean, I don't know out there do it In 28 minutes, you got a strong 18 minutes. You should
Starting point is 02:07:19 Strong that's it That kid just got 50 to average five points. So if he can average five points and get 50, then... Did he average... Did he score 50
Starting point is 02:07:31 with the starters all on the court? I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. He's out there on that court and he got 50. So if Westbrook played 48 minutes, he wouldn't have
Starting point is 02:07:39 a triple-double that game? We'll see. No, I'm talking about that game. He wouldn't have a triple-double? He played 48 minutes? If James Harden... If James Harden... We don't know. Paul George and. No, I'm talking about that game. He wouldn't have a triple-double? He played 48 minutes. If James Harden, Paul George and Kawhi is off the floor, he ain't going to get a triple-double.
Starting point is 02:07:53 Russ getting to it. I don't know. He going to get to it. I don't know. He got nobody. 40 minutes with the ball in his hand, he's going to get to it. He's going to get to a triple-double. You think Luka did everything? Sounds like a little hate, B. No, the bad part is he was on the other side just last game. What?
Starting point is 02:08:11 Remember, we was talking about Bill. Right. And me and you were both against him saying that Bill can't do it. No, he said he told Bill to move over and get out the way. And you said, well, he can't score 30 because two other people are shooting too. And he's like, I got to sacrifice. Yeah, but you said he couldn't score 30. Like, he can't.
Starting point is 02:08:31 You said Bill couldn't score. I'm saying Bill can do it. He can. Okay. But he ain't because the other people are scoring. And you know what we can all do? Download the Underdog Fantasy Abuse promo code, GilIL and get a $100 first-time deposit match. Ty, we appreciate you pulling up to the arena.
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