Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena RIPS The Warriors For Still MESSING With Kuminga

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

Gil's Arena SLAMS The Golden State Warriors For Still MESSING With Jonathan Kuminga as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Steve Kerr publicly saying that their young superstar doesn't fit ...on the court with Steph Curry, Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler despite the team holding him from exploring NBA Free Agency. The debate if the Warriors need to allow him to get a fresh start this summer and call out their front office for letting business get in the way of the development of a young superstar. They also react to Kevon Looney ditching the Warriors for the New Orleans Pelicans and debate if the Rick James lookalike along with the Pelican's other offseason acquisitions of Jordan Poole move the needle for NOLA as they look to get Zion Williamson to the NBA Playoffs for the first time in his NBA Career. Next, they react to Kyrie Irving announcing he likely will not return from his torn ACL in the 2026 NBA Season and break down how Anthony Davis & Cooper Flagg will need to step up in his absence before giving their take on Paolo Banchero signing a mega extension with the Orlando Magic, setting them up with their best window for an NBA Championship in decades. Finally, they react to Chris Paul teasing retirement as the Point God looks to find one last run at an NBA Championship before whipping around the NBA to cover notable news items like Ace Bailey's summer league bounce back, the NBA's newest rule change and father time finally coming for the halftime show Hall of Famer Red Panda. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Kenyon Martin & Swaggy P Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Right now Blinds.com is giving our listeners an exclusive $50 off when you spend $500 or more. Just use code ARENA at checkout. Limited time offer. Rules and restrictions apply. https://www.blinds.com/?utm_campaign=... Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE:    / @gilsarena   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   0:00:00 2 Min Countdown 0:02:00 Show Start 0:10:55 Kevon Looney Looks Like Rick James 0:15:16 Zion Williamson Needs To Change!! 0:35:17 The Warriors Are Still Messing With Kuminga 0:49:53 Why NBA Teams Keep Getting Sold 0:55:27 Back To Kuminga 1:07:31 Kyrie Says He Won't Be Back In 2026 1:13:16 Anthony Davis Gets Eye Surgery 1:21:57 Paolo Banchero's MASSIVE Extension 1:27:04 Jerry Stackhouse Singing The National Anthem 1:34:23 Back To The Magic 1:38:26 Ace Bailey Bounces Back In Summer League 1:58:22 Michael Beasley Responds To Swaggy P 2:10:21 CP3 Teases His Retirement 2:33:59 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Walkie Brewers, huh? It was a tough one. He's from Milwaukee. He don't though. He don't though, right? I really do though. Nah, he really do. He go back every time. I do love Milwaukee. I got my little spots. You remember the message I had you read, somebody sent me about him? Oh, I got one for him too.
Starting point is 00:01:18 He got hate mail. Listen, somebody sent me a message about Nick. Like, Nick dissed that in the third, so I had your side reading. Some nigga from Milwaukee sent me a message about you. You know, he just like telling niggas to stop repping us like that.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We don't fuck with that nigga like that. I was like, damn. That's crazy. That's unfortunate. That's crazy, that's a lie. I'm like, why do I have to be the media? Hey, Paula, play my shit, Paula. So they know Milwaukee is fucking me. Play my shit, man. I'm like He's gotta roll with it, bro. He must've been up on the top top. He ain't in there. You know why I gotta be the mediator though? Why they send the messages to me?
Starting point is 00:02:07 Like that's all I wanna know, like, it's just like, but the nigga said with Nick, so I would have to follow that nigga to send him the message, so I don't wanna do that. I said, oh, this nigga can't do this shit. Yo, I would have to follow him to send him this message. And can you relay this message for me, please? But this is Gills Arena presented by Undeux.
Starting point is 00:02:23 I guess I always got the legend, Gilbert Arena's here with us We got one-on-one legend Man we're taking that 20 per score to also and on this side of cops We got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenyon Martin is back in the arena with us. That's some situations on the boat. Oh shit, lucky to be here.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Shit, there was no black people on the Titanic. I don't know if we'll point that out. There was no black people on that boat, I just got stuck on them. There was, they were sinking and shit. The cook, they was back and lucky. You sure? What year was this? 1912, 1910, something like that.
Starting point is 00:03:12 They had one DJ. Yeah, it was down with the... It was black people. The first ones that died. First ones get locked in yard. Don't even think about getting on those lifeboats. It might have been the ones that started it. You know what, they ain't treating us. Put that hole in there. Break his shit ass who's going down.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And last but not least, represent Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University and the 414, Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. 18 holes of golf yesterday? 36? Bogy, bogy, bogy, bogy, bogy. Much better than the last one. for Mr. Big Brandon Jennings. Back in the room. 18 holes of golf yesterday? 36? How many? Bogey, bogey, bogey, bogey, bogey.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Much better swing than LeBron, I will point that out. Really? You out there now like that? Yeah. Like just bogeys or you double bogeys triple? Like is it just? Double bogeys. Okay, I'm just saying, but if you bogeying at all,
Starting point is 00:04:00 that's not bad. I'm double bogey. That ain't bad neither. My putt game is. But that ain't bad, listen. Putt game is nice? For somebody just beginning, somebody just beginning, double bogey that's not bad. I'm double bogey. That ain't bad neither. My putt game is. But that ain't bad. Listen, double bogey is nice. For somebody just beginning, double bogey trip is not bad at all. See, I can get off the range, but then when I get a little closer, the chip a little bit.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Tap, tap, tap a rope. That's too many. That's too many shots. Tap, tap, tap a rope. Ain't that mean it's slots on that motherfucker? To be a plus 12, Joe. On hole one, part three 12 we still got to viewing after for our traditional version mobile vertical version pick which everyone you want to watch just make sure you support the show here's
Starting point is 00:04:38 what's cracking in the arena today the Warriors are export reportedly exploring trade options with restricted free agent Jonathan Kaminka But did Steve current the team play themselves by diminishing his value? Words have been very very quiet and free agency No movie may cap may be an issue But we will discuss so kairi toe fans He may miss all of the next season said He said, are you coming back to playoffs? Said, don't hold your breath.
Starting point is 00:05:06 He wants to make sure he's good to go before he comes back. But are the Mavs still contenders without Kyrie? We also have some AD news we gotta discuss as well. That may have some bearing on their season. And CP3 says, this may be his final season in the league. Which team gives a future Hall of Fame PG the best opportunity to make it memorable? But before get into all that as always this show is brought to you by underdog download that fuse promo code guild get up to thousand
Starting point is 00:05:30 dollars of bonus cash plus a special pick them and we're back with another crew pack today as reminder each member of our guilds arena crew submitted a pick them that were combining to create our partner pack on the underdog app we'll tally up the individual picks and the guy with the highest percentage of accurate picks will receive a large sum of underdog bread before we take our summer hiatus. That's next week's ladies and gentlemen. We got this week, next week we're going to go on a little break, recalibrate to keep bringing you your favorite show. So Ginn and Kaney in the lead so far you guys are both five for six on your pick. Swaggy and Rashad
Starting point is 00:06:02 four for six. Rashad got his pick counted for being the only one right on the day we We vetoed last Tuesday. I went up. No. No we didn't count this Huh? He got his pick correct. Yeah, because nobody else got the pick corrected your but yours were all wrong anyway Yeah, but we said it didn't count. So he has to we because that wasn't in he has to pick twice one day One for the fans and one for playing you can't even make enough rules and shit So he has to, because that wasn't in, he has to pick twice one day. One for the fans and one for- You can't be making up rules and shit, man. This is Gills Arena presenting the Bunderdoll Rubble.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It is Gills Arena. What I'm saying is you can't say it doesn't count for everybody and then he says, well I won that one and then you count it. But you guys would have lost if it did count. But it didn't count, so that's not- So it doesn't count. that's not the full voice that's up to y'all we in first so we were so we're five and six what therefore and see a swagging Rashad are four for six I got mine right yesterday I got a pair so no no I was tired with BJ mr. B was mr. you currently we were recalibrate the numbers
Starting point is 00:07:05 I mean you and came I was tired of me BJ this time You feel yes, but what happened is yeah, so so like this he put to see this is why you were right yesterday Be just oh, so he put two picks in yesterday So one pick didn't even play. Mm-hmm. So they went to the second pick Okay, and that's how you that's how we did it. Right? So you had picked BJ. BJ didn't play yesterday.
Starting point is 00:07:29 So everybody's picks would have been bad again. But he put another pick in. But you had H. Bailey hire 15.5 as your back. Okay, well, either way. I didn't, that ain't my rule. Let's take a look at the partner pack for today. The fact that Summer League is on that motherfucker is diabolical. And I believe, I've been playing.
Starting point is 00:07:48 That's hard, Lil' G. Bronnie betrayed me not playing in the second half. We were off to a good start. Taking all of them. If I ever pick Summer League shit, it's all under. Both of you are five for six. Rashad, we will update. Swaggin, Rashad are four six. Mr. B, three or six currently. But we'll see if the numbers drop. Rashad was in the ass, wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah, but they gave him a win on that deal. Oh, so four for six. Okay. So, wow. Money Making Sunny has Logan Gilbert. So everybody with a loss? I thought. Everybody but Rashad. No, I thought people, my pick then play. Yes. I thought a bunch of people picked and played. This is between you and 100 Dollars. I merely hosed. I'm a vessel.
Starting point is 00:08:26 So it's two voids, three losses, and then Rashad got his run. So it was two voids, three losses, and Rashad got his run. When, yesterday? No, Tuesday, last week. We're talking about old shit. But currently, Rashad has Logan Gilbert
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Starting point is 00:08:58 21 times, you know. Wow, damn, this partner pack boosted yet again. On steroids. That's going with Asia. If you use this partner pack, you're going up to 21.4 times your bread on the underdog app. We're gonna play this one.
Starting point is 00:09:09 About to see. Might as well throw five on it. Yeah, so we picked Texas Rangers. Let me say we consistent, bro. Respect. That's all. So we asked Ted, are you riding or fading with this Gills Arena Crew Pack for tonight?
Starting point is 00:09:21 52% riding currently. If you like it, go to the underdog app, add the crew pack. If you don't have underdog download the app use promo code GIL get up to thousand dollars in bonus cash plus a special pick them and if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube we have audio version available on Apple Spotify wherever you get your podcast. So we're gonna start this one a little bit on the lighter side. Three-time NBA champ Kevon Looney spent his entire 10-year career with the Warriors until he agreed to join the Pelicans on a two-year
Starting point is 00:09:45 16 million dollar deal this offseason So he officially signed his deal yesterday and the Pelicans Announcement of the signing let some fans and notice that Looney is looking like a certain celebrity these days with his hairstyle Let's take a look if we can Pelicans tweeted pen to paper for the big man and a Twitter user, I hate BBLs, responded, we signed Rick James. Damn. So for reference, here's what Lunaky looks like in comparison to the legend Rick James.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Hey. Hey. Close enough. I'm Rick James, bitch. Hey. Close enough. Rick James, bitch. So y'all think the Kevon Looney, Rick James comparisons are warranted? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:10:34 Let me hold something, man. What'd you get, 16? 16 for 16. Milwaukee best right there, baby. Say Milwaukee legend. Man, straight from home, you know? it's a lot of Milwaukee best in that way You know the drink you know the drink And how do you like this move for the pelicans bringing in looney a championship experience?
Starting point is 00:10:58 Three time champion. I say a lot your former teammate. Yeah, let's a legend in Milwaukee. Yeah. Yes? Yeah. In Milwaukee. 414, yeah, they fuck with him. High school world legend. Went to high school in Milwaukee. High school in Milwaukee, went to UCLA. Oh, UCLA. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Is that one of the Ball Brothers? Is that that year? No. No, hell no. Listen. No, no, I think I have three championships. Yeah, that's a great way. Him and Tyler Hero from Milwaukee?
Starting point is 00:11:33 I'm thinking Riley. Hero from Milwaukee? Cody Riley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Three time champ. That's my real cousin. I know that. Well, you have a lot of family.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Right there is Rooney. That's my mom's sister's son. Like, real cousin? Yeah. Bro? Real cousin, yeah. That's my mom's sister's son. Like, real cousin. Mom's sister's son? Yeah. Bro? Real cousin, yeah. That's your cousin? Grew up, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Milwaukee best. Milwaukee best. That's why I keep saying that. Do you like the Pelicans adding Kevon Looney to the roster? Two-year, $60 million deal. Man, he supposed to be like, your dollars has them at Golden State, man. But get your money. Been there in the Warriors uniform for about what?
Starting point is 00:12:12 Ten seasons? Ten, yeah. Got his money. You didn't want to pay that? Two for 16. Feel like you said I'm more? No, I'm just saying, Golden State didn't want to pay that. That's messed up.
Starting point is 00:12:27 They ain't got it right now, good Golden State. Okay, alright. But they ain't gonna use them, man. New Orleans, it look like they're getting bigger, I mean, bigger rope. They got a lot of good pieces and young pieces, right? They got the queen kid, they can put him at the four He but he all is 610 611 right? Huh, oh, yeah, the Queen kid. Oh, yeah, Marilyn. Oh, yeah, and you got what guard went over there
Starting point is 00:12:57 Jordan pool went over in a tree. No, they got a tree. No, no, no, they got another beers I'll call you. Yeah Zero fears. Yeah zero in Zion So we're gonna talk about it. Whoa Okay, Pelicans drafted Jeremiah fears their Queen in the lottery Joe Dumars traded the Pels 23rd pick in a 2026 unprotected first rounder to the Hawks to move up ten spots in the draft to snag Queen Move was laughed at by a lot of executives around the league to snag queen, a move was laughed at by a lot of executives around the league. Hawks had to triple check with Joe Dunar to confirm that he wanted to give up that unprotected pick, which would be the most favorable of the Bucks or Pelicans in the 2026 draft. But they've also
Starting point is 00:13:37 traded for Jordan Poole while moving on from CJ McCollum. De'Jonte Murray tore Achilles in the back half of last season, so we aren't sure when he'll be available next season and Zion Williamson still seeking his first playoff birth as he has never played beyond the play-in during his five healthy seasons. So do you think the Pelicans have approved it all this offseason? Sure yeah. Where did CJ go? Oh to the Unks. He joined the Unks. Yeah, to the Wizards. That's fucked up. He joined the Unks. He went to the West? I mean, better than last year. I mean, I mean.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah. Better than last year. So who would be in... Who would be in... I mean, was it 16? Who's they starting five right now? Mm. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Who? Theears? Murray? No, we're in Murray's house. Trey Murphy, I mean Murphy. Trey Murphy, Herb Jones. Or Jones. Zion.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Zion. And Kevon? E's Macy I think as well. Big man they drew. Oh yeah, the big man they picked. They got Queen. Queen. Why you keep saying?
Starting point is 00:14:44 He nice though. I know. I like him. Those are the type of kids that get that. Queen was actually one of your sleepers in the draft. Those are the type of players that when you're going through workouts by yourself or with someone one on one you can't tell how good they are. Yeah. Cause it's not a game, right? It's just them. So they look slow, they look like they can't move. They, you know what I mean? They don't have, it takes- They're like looking at Joker. Yeah, and that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:15:13 You can't tell, like, you can't tell what Joker does in a workout by himself. Just doesn't, like, aw, look at him. He moves well. Yeah, you know what I mean? He just looks all slow. It's just like, come on, let's go, let's go. Yeah, you know what I mean? He just looks all slow. It's just like, come on, let's go, let's go. And then you put him in a game,
Starting point is 00:15:28 and then now it's that element. And they're like, oh shit, we fucked up. That's what's gonna happen with the Queen kid. They're gonna realize, oh. I mean, really, obviously the fate of Pelicans depends on the healthy Zion, and we're just keeping it real. Max.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Shit, Queen is not going. He can play. Yeah, they do the Zion. They got two lottery picks, bro. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. One big, one guard. I just, just. But you think they can just throw him in right away?
Starting point is 00:15:48 One big, one guard. Throw him in right away to do what? That's what I'm saying. It's going to take a little time for those guys to develop, right? Yeah, man. He won 35 games. That's a lot, bro. If he's on, y'all know.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Because on y'all average what when he played? 27. Who would have to average all that? Still 35 wins. Oh, no. Max. If you, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can How do you average what when he played? 27. You don't have to average all that. Still 35 wins. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Max. If you, you can't, you just can't. Nine out of 25, seven and five, in 30 games he played last year. I mean, how many games do you think you're gonna win if 6'6 power forward is your power forward? Like, no matter how big he played, it just doesn't work like that. You know what I mean? It just doesn't.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Like if he's at the three, okay, now we talking. Zion? Yeah, he's at the four. It just makes your team just... Because Yannis is... If he's just healthy, they win. Win in what? Just...
Starting point is 00:16:40 They win more. They make the playoff. Where? In the West? No. You got to your rapid-ass mind. Man, Zion... You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, but you're too... What just they win more they make the playoff where in the West? They make the plan because they got much With 35 wins, maybe what's that? Delicates were 21 and 61 last at the plant was Zion breaking when he played if y'all could get that Yeah, cuz so in 30 games you played 30 games last year. Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:10 He's sure you played 30 games Pelicans were 10 and 20 I believe in the games as I am play When he played, not last year, they was ass. Everybody was done. 10 and 20 when he played. You asked for the, now you want to change the criteria. He don't like the ass, now you want to change the criteria. Overall, do overall every time he plays. Not a pretty tight career. Didn't get it like that. I like what? Some games he's coming back injured.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, we understand that. Him at the four just makes them just, they just not a... Two seasons ago, Pelicans over AC made the play plan 49 33 so I had that 40-point game if he can get down weight and he's at the three position how he plays just coming downhill posting up out rebound and small forwards he is a juggernaut in that position as a four man you're you're the smallest four man. Paulo is fucking damn near seven foot man.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Giannis is fucking seven foot man. Anthony Davis, god damn it, he's at the four sometimes. Like these fours are still big. So you- I'm just playing the four. Anthony Davis is the starting four man. The position that you just, that doesn't win. Back in the day is different. No, we're talking about today.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Back in the day was fine, because everybody was 6'6". Charles Barkley, everybody, all of them was 6'6". The centers are 6'6". No, I'm saying all of them was 6'6", then, back then. When Kevin Gardner and Duncan M came in, that's what changed the position. They were scared of Shaq, so they was like, ah, now we'll be the four because everybody small
Starting point is 00:18:45 For the noise you can go Who he's gonna guard in the way for who you got Gordon Gordon six tears Lakers. He got a little bronze six Everybody's big you're out rebound. So if your power Randall six ten. No, hey power when Randall 610 no hell no come on man with Rudy Goldberg everybody 610 what I'm saying is he is still 6'6 right so he's still giving up some type of leverage on offense and defense meaning he has to work a lot harder meaning your small fort and your center has to work a lot harder just to get rebounds you're just it's just a small team if he plays at the three
Starting point is 00:19:25 There's nothing I can guard him at the three nothing good. Go on. I'm at the foot. He can't guard nobody at the four nobody she Was that the frame? I did it I mean say Katie probably at the No, no Can't Katie go around it doesn't I got protection back there when he drives. I got a real big man back there No, we don't who's saying goons a real big man. That's no black shot You got Adams back there saying goon is at the four four or five. That's I'm saying everybody's tall dog
Starting point is 00:20:02 Even when you talk about right Even when you talk about OKC. Now they got Clint Capella. Yeah, they got started. OKC got two seven-footers. Like, it's not a- They got Looney back there. He got Big back there. It's the four position we talking about.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Yes. Huh? No, we just thinking about how big Houston can play. Yeah. And Houston under the city. Everybody's playing big. Ain't nobody playing big in Houston. Who?
Starting point is 00:20:24 Who's big? Clint Capella, Steven Adams, Sandgun, Thompson, Kevin Durant, all 6'10 and above. Jabari Smith, Tyree Eason, all of them big is 6'9, 6'. Everybody I just named is 6'9 and above. Everybody.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Thompson, Smith, Eason, Durant, Yeah, Capella's not playing. Everybody else is 6 foot, Sanguul. Oh, man. Six-ten and above. The four. What I'm saying is, if your four is... Everybody has his name can play that position
Starting point is 00:20:54 except Adams and Capella. Them two-fives. If you put Thompson at the four on Zanon, I'm taking Zanon right there. So you do know he made it all defense team. That man is strong. But you do know it's You do. You do know he made all defense team. What I mean is strong, but you don't know it's not about all defense. It's all right. Listen, it's all. It's offensive rebound. It's all of it that matters. He has now that means he has to be the back line on all
Starting point is 00:21:16 defense getting in foul trouble. It just weighs on him because he's he's not tall enough. Yeah, athletic. Yeah, he can do his thing. But you still have to be. Four championships being of six-six center. He guard everybody. What are we talking about? But offensively. This is the NBA. But offensively.
Starting point is 00:21:32 God damn, you act like this big Julius Randall killed LeBron last year. Six-ten and a half. Slow down, Swag. Slow down. You're talking about just talk about six-ten. Who's six-ten? Julius Randall.
Starting point is 00:21:43 All right, you're just saying names. With the defensive player that you're behind him. Just throwing out numbers. Julius Randall. All right, you're just saying names. With the defensive player that you're behind him. He's throwing out numbers now. Julius Randall's not 16. All right. You all see why he keeps getting hurt. How much energy does he have to do?
Starting point is 00:21:52 Try to rebound, offensive rebound, box these big niggas. It's a toll. You put him at the three, who guards him at the three? Nobody. And you get to keep your team big so he don't have to rely on people. You think he can guard threes though. He can guard nobody at the four. Yes, he can guard three.
Starting point is 00:22:08 This is the NBA. Who's at the three? That's good. Because what a guy's doing that over. So this is my thing. Who's at the three? It ain't like when we played, when Tracy and them night after night,
Starting point is 00:22:20 them days are over, right? Where you knew, them dudes gonna get 20, 25, 30 a night. Them days are over, right? Where you knew them dudes gonna get 20, 25, 30, a night. Like you knew that. That ain't certain guys these days yet, but on a nightly basis you knew like at that position it was gonna be a long night. Just what it was. Like this NBA, he can play three, guard threes, it's a jump shooting. No one's gonna guard him at the three. Cuz all they gonna do is run pick a roll and try to pick match ups out. So it's- Who's at the three now? Man, the three is better than the four.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Huh? Jalen Brown. No, Jalen Brown. The three is better than the four. Either one, pick one. Jalen Brown and Jalen Brown is at the four. Three and four, interchangeable. He gotta guard Jaxon.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Six ten, six ten. No he don't. Scotty Barnes. No, he has to guard J. No, he has a guard Jason 610 610. No, we don't Scotty barn No, he has a guard Brown at the three So swag you know, I'm gonna guard him Guys like that like guard like oh, yeah Like all the dudes around and not even OG too. Sometimes OG, but. Who made it to the Western Conference?
Starting point is 00:23:28 Bridges. Bridges, McHale Bridges. Bridges guarding him. I be with the center that made it, I mean the power forward that made it to the championship. Seven foot. On the east. What was his name?
Starting point is 00:23:37 He came from Toronto, ain't that the center? Power forward. Who, Pascal? Pascal. That's who has to guard him. Jesus Christ. No, Opie Toppin is the, Pascal's the three. That's who has to guard him. Jesus Christ. He is skinnier. No, Opie Toppin is the three.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Opie Toppin is skinnier. Opie Toppin is big collar. He came off the bench. Opie Toppin didn't start. No, he didn't start. Pascal started after four. And that's Miles turn the score to five. And who's the three?
Starting point is 00:24:02 Nim Hart. That's who has to guard him. That's who has to guard him. That's who has to guard him. The team with him needs to make a clamp. He can guard either one. He's too small. Look at what I'm saying. Look at what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Who's at the three that can guard Zion coming downhill? So why is it bad for him to be the fourth Pascal? Pascal the fourth. He's fucking 6'7 and way skinnier than Zion Because he go every goddamn position for him guard town's big ass Look what you did the town for his position being hurt is because he's exerting too much for the four men They hurt you just need to stop eating shit three man position like you're arguing for no reason about nothing I'm not because I'm saying lose a couple pounds be at the like you're arguing for no reason about nothing. I'm not. Because I'm saying lose a couple pounds, be at the three, you're unstoppable, you're goaded
Starting point is 00:24:48 at the three. Six, six with a fucking 40 inch vertical, you're a juggernaut, you're like a more powerful Dwayne Wade coming downhill. There's nothing stopping you because you're moving forward. At the four, it kind of makes it hard. Defensively, we're not talking about offense, we're talking about defensively it puts too much energy on them at the three he has no one that really gives him anything nothing at the three like Jalen Williams has to guard him like like it's good defender but this boy is
Starting point is 00:25:20 here problem at the three I agree yeah he has no matchup at the three. You gotta go big. You gotta go big, put him at the three. You protect him defensively, you're much, he don't. You put a shooting four out there, you put a stretch four out there. What's the top three, small forwards in the league? I mean, top five, like top five.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Small forwards? Yeah. You're gonna have Brown, you're gonna have Leonard, Kawhi there. Kawhi. Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, I'm a reaper. Kawhi played a four sometimes too. But he's a three.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Everybody's a three. Start at the three. Who? Oh, Mobly? No, Mobly's a four. Mobly's a four. Stay out of it, Shug, shut up. Shit.
Starting point is 00:26:00 See, think about Cleveland. Look who has the guard here. What's the, white dude? Oh, they just traded okay. But, him. Dean or? No, not Dean. Wade?
Starting point is 00:26:12 No, not him. Bruce, Spruce. Max Spruce. That's who has the guard. Him, Max Spruce. From Miami, that's who has the guard. That's the three. That's a lot of shmink, man.
Starting point is 00:26:25 That's easy work, man. It's a better situation. But he has to lose weight for that. No, he doesn't have to. We asked the chat, will the Pelicans make the playoffs? I don't think he will. 51% of the chat said no. You don't think he has to lose any?
Starting point is 00:26:40 90% of the chat said yes. You're a problem, though. He's got to somehow just try to stay up there as much as he possibly can. But the way he plays, man, he just exerts so much energy and force, man, every time. It's a possibility, man. This NBA hurts him. If he was in old NBA, 90s, early 2000s, before when they was lifting weights and keeping the muscles strong, I don't think he'd be injured as much.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Man, actually... I treat him as Giannis. Treat him as...put the ball in his hand, man. Like, I put the ball in his hand. Like, let him go make plays, because he's a hell of a passer. I'm having him go make plays. Yeah, like, it's... It reminds me of, like like Lamar Oldham style.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Just imagine Magic Johnson or Bron, right? Because you can pass the ball, right? And you're unselfish, I'd rather put the ball in your hand, you make play. Yeah, you gotta bet. Right? Because if you come downhill, they mess up on that downhill, you dunking that ball. Right? I wouldn't, I wouldn't, you coming off down screens and I'm passing you, I so and like none of your
Starting point is 00:27:47 momentum is there. You just keep it all like if you see any kind of seam just come at it. That's how I'll be. I want them. Because they got to foul you. Huh? Because they got to, they going to foul you. You're always on the back heel.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Like Yannis. What family are you getting hurt from? What have been his injuries? Hamstrings. Hamstrings. It's hamstring shit man a lot. A lot, a lot. Yeah, just little shit. Where the hell did it get hurt from? What have been his injuries? Hamstrings. Hamstrings. It's hamstring shit, man. A lot, a lot, a lot.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah, just little shit, but yeah, them hamstrings, man. Jumping, getting all, pow, pow, pow. Yeah, that explosion, trying to, yeah, because you know you can do it, you know you can get there. Go from here to there, you just, that's what you rely on. Like, is that a, like, and I get it. It's tough not to. When shit get tough, you gonna go back to your roots with what you know.
Starting point is 00:28:26 How can you fix that? By playing, don't that mean like, too much sitting and going? Yeah, it just seems like it's, like I think about that. That's how you pull some shit. No, no, that's. You pull some shit when you don't play,
Starting point is 00:28:39 and then you try to get out there and go hunting. Like, what's so funny is, when you think about Achilles injuries, right, what group of people usually get so, niggas stop playing basketball for a long ass time. And then they come out, they come out, and they, are y'all hoopin' today? Yup. Right?
Starting point is 00:28:56 Ah! Oh! Like that'd be looking at me. So when you started looking at like- What happened to Rick? Huh? Oh no, okay. But like Jason Tatum's like,
Starting point is 00:29:05 damn you was conditioned all year. You know that's just. You wearing tear? Yeah, just wearing tear. Could be the landing. No rest. No rest. Understanding. Too much rest or no rest?
Starting point is 00:29:15 Understanding that these calves, man, y'all gotta. No rest. Y'all gotta do calves. No rest. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Too much rest and then and or no rest, not enough rest leads to
Starting point is 00:29:25 that for some of these guys man. No, Zion is just the way he plays the game and it's unfortunately man like that's who he is he's an explosive what got him drafted number one what got him all the notoriety is all of these things it's just so happens at the highest level it's a lot of attention on him now. And, personally, he wants to play, but it's just the way he plays the game, it's... We said that last season, if I could play back to back, I would play back to back.
Starting point is 00:29:55 My employer don't want me to play back to back. Yeah, he got to, I think. Yeah, I think he goes out and play, man, and you deal with whatever comes with it. You gotta play back to back, yeah. He just gotta look at it. Whatever you've done this far, it ain't it. All that shit that's going on with you, with outside stuff, work related issues.
Starting point is 00:30:17 It hasn't helped to the success. That means cancel it all. Regroup. All of it. Abandon the work? Hey, work, the VM, all of it. Just look at it all and just say, you know what? I'm getting rid of all of it. I don't wanna see nobody right now.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I need to tap in. I'm sitting in the gym all summer and I'm coming back. And then who I let in one by one into this door of my new life, then I am. Other than that, man, you have to scrub, because it ain't done nothing for you. It's just a big ass headache, one after the other. Right, it's, you're not regular, right?
Starting point is 00:30:55 You're not a regular dude, and everybody you meet has an angle at this point, and you know what I mean? It's, you're... Everybody figure they got a solution, don't try to, I don't try to help, how they can help him. Tap in just one year, just one year so you can see like that one year, man, just all distractions gone. And give him more.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Do you think it's like cardio-vascular, you think he need like, maybe need to like run more, you think he can get tired and it's like cardio-basket? You think he maybe needs to run more? You think he can get tired and it's muscle fatigue fast? I just, oh, I'm just trying to, it's just. Okay, so did you ever play with, you played with Mello, right? And Mello's body type looks like he can, how much did he do outside of practice?
Starting point is 00:31:44 He just worked on his game. It wasn't like he went on like, he was acting runs and shit like he wasn't doing three minute runs and shit like that after he was working on his craft. Like he's working on his spots and after the practice before he practiced in the whole practice didn't want to come out of practice never and just worked on his shit out. Like he was constantly working on his spots, right, constantly. So it's that, but he practiced. So like Al Harrington was like, he said what he would do is, like let's say he's going to Atlanta and he's like, man, I love eating Atlanta food.
Starting point is 00:32:18 He said, so shit, before the plane, I'm gonna just get on the treadmill, do two miles, right? I'm gonna do two miles on a treadmill. I'm not eating none of the food on the plane, I'ma just get on the treadmill, do two miles, right? I'ma do two miles on the treadmill. I'm not eating none of the food on the plane. Is that I'm not snacking so I can use my calories, you know, for food I don't want. Yeah, you gotta know your body type. Sometimes, like I even said it when he first came into it, everybody thought I was hating, but I'm like,
Starting point is 00:32:39 if this is what he weighs now, man, when he gets to the NBA, it's not college. College, you're practicing two and a half hours like you do a condition and like this is the smallest he's gonna be. NBA is different. I gained damn near 15 pounds just drinking Gatorade. I had to get the G2 then dilute that because I was drinking four Gatorades a day. You were just doubling up on the G2s? Yeah, so I took the G, so I took four G2s and then I poured that out, poured half of
Starting point is 00:33:10 it out and put water so I would have a good two. But great G2 is better. Put the electrolytes in it, like it was just, cause I was gaining weight and didn't know what I was gaining weight from. You could do the drain mine, drain mine came in fat to the mouth. But you gotta understand understand that, man. Listen, think about how we are during the season. Plain rye, we're going to eat that bullshit.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So we're going to be drinking, talk shit. Then city to city, we drinking, eating, having fun, coming in 3 AM, ordering rooms, serving them, get the burger. Sometimes, we get the salmon and this little salad. We try it. You're going to burn it. You feel like you're going to burn it.
Starting point is 00:33:44 We're going to burn it. We playing 38 minutes. we plan 38 minutes what if that ain't burn nothing we burn that just gaining weight during the season so he really had to be mindful definitely gotta be mindful of it well we hope it works out for I'm looking forward to him having a successful season next year let's keep this thing moving so we talked about Keeva Looney earlier looking like Rick James so from a former warrior to a current warrior. Jonathan Kamiga entered restricted free agency last week, which means any team in the league can sign him
Starting point is 00:34:09 to an offer sheet and the Warriors can match that offer. That is yet to happen. According to reports, he's looking for a deal in the $30 million a year range. Several teams interested in acquiring the service of the 22 year old forward via sign and trade, with reports that if the Warriors do decide to trade him, they are seeing a promising young player and first-round pick in return so
Starting point is 00:34:29 coming was in the doghouse towards the end of the season but came on strong in the playoffs during a recent interview with Tim Kawakami on his TK podcast correct this to say about how coming a fits with this warrior squad you know it's a tricky one because Jonathan obviously is gifted and, you know, wants to play a bigger role and wants to play more. You know, for me, it's like, this is a, I've been asked to win. And right now, he's not a guy who I can say, I'm going to play 38 minutes with the roster that we have, Steph and Jimmy and Trey Mund and put the puzzle together that way and
Starting point is 00:35:12 expect to win. Doesn't mean he's not a really good player, doesn't mean he's not talented, it just means the fit and with the roster that we have. It is tricky, there's no question. So I guess I saw your face while you're watching that, your former coach, Steve Kerr. His son, Nick Kerr, remember the Warriors staff now, Nick Kerr. Yeah, see that's the shit that kills me.
Starting point is 00:35:36 He wanted to save Przezinski too, so bad. He wanted to save that. Kerry Przezinski, I don't see how I could play him over him. But Steve Kerr just cold, man. The mind games he play with certain players is he don't give them confidence at all. If you're not them three he mentioned, it's hard to play for him, really.
Starting point is 00:36:03 You know, Steve Kerr's comments force you to crack a cold one, take some extended sips of your Miller Lite. What's your reaction when you talk to him? That's how you get him for the love? Yeah, that's a language nobody wants to hear right now. What language is that? Yeah, he. He's basically sit. You know, we used to have that word. We have the word in the early 2000s when you don't. We got a very very talented player right there but he can't be on the court. And the words of someone told the
Starting point is 00:36:47 great Charles Outlaw y'all might know this bull. Boy you playing hard but you killing us. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, This was a few weeks ago when Kurt said these comments, obviously prior to free agency kicking off. But when you hear him say stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:37:27 So this is, go ahead. But so this is my thought about it, right? He says one thing about winning, right? He's supposed to be in a position to win. He's talented, so wouldn't... How much you making a year, Steve Kerr? You know what it is. Yeah, I know exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Yeah, yeah. Yes. He's trying to say it without saying it. Right. He's good, but... So... If trying to win... I think he's making close to $18 million a year at this point. Well, Steve, you got to so if trying to win you trying to make close to 18
Starting point is 00:38:07 million dollars a year at this well Steve you got to figure that brother 18 mil right put him first thing listen I hear you coach in the NBA right now I hear you Steve yeah you yeah your dollar amount say you need to win yes and you might can't trust him all the time but hey brother for trying to win, yes, and you might can't trust him all the time, but hey, brother, if you're trying to win, I think him 18, 19, and 19 can help. I know. That's the bad part because it's one of those- 19, 19, and 19 can help.
Starting point is 00:38:35 You know what it is? Imagine you have a sit. You got to remember, this is- he has a sit. It's not like every other team. Here, you got to know plays. Yeah. There's a system. It's not like every other team. Here you got to know plays. Yeah. There's a system. There's reaction. Yeah. Kamiga don't know how to react and do all that. But he's talented to be out there. Okay. And the 18 how he scores goes against the offense. He's like yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:03 You swing it to him you know what he's gonna do with it. So that's my thing with it. So you know what it is, right? So let's put him in that role. Let's put him in the six man role. You know what it is, right? You know what you're getting out of him. You know exactly what he's gonna,
Starting point is 00:39:18 because you have a large sample size of what he is and what he's gonna do when he's, with the minutes you give him, you know what he's going to do? He's an aggressive, offensive mindset basketball player. This is what got me drafted. This is why I am here. This is why people paid me some attention in the first place. So why would I change that now that I'm here?
Starting point is 00:39:39 I hear you coach, but they, y'all picked me in this role. I was this when I this when I showed up. Now you're trying to ask me to be some fucking totally different. Yeah. So let's help him out. If he is talented and you think you can use him in some capacity, some facet, let's figure it out. Let's put him in that role.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Then you can, like we said, Louis said on his couch, other six men, now you control his dollar amount. That's what you've been trying to do. You've been trying to control how much you're going to pay him. So here you go. Put him in the six man role, pay him as a six man. Anything from 15 to 20, you can live with because it's that. You ain't got to run your system when he out there there I guarantee when Jamal Crawford got on The floor whatever team he was on Give him the ball. Throw it to him. We need a bucket Louie we need a bucket Nick Young. We need a bucket JR Smith. We need a bucket Manu Janobi. We need a bucket
Starting point is 00:40:40 Let's throw the ball to him cuz we Vinny Johnson the microwave you want me to fucking keep going We have guys that's played this role. Could they be starters in this NBA? Yes, but they have a role and we know what they are. Let's let them thrive in that. Let's not just like, just you shitting on him. Let's stop. Let's stop.
Starting point is 00:40:59 You shitting on him right now. Let's figure it out, Steve. I think they're mad, because he didn't sign that offer sheet. Cool, move on. He didn't sign it. But you're not gonna get right now. Let's figure it out, Steve. I think they're mad because he didn't sign that offer shoot. Cool! Move on! He didn't sign it. But you're not going to get 30 now, young fella.
Starting point is 00:41:08 I hate to tell you. Oh, yeah, he ain't getting 30. Because he didn't sign the offer shoot. Last year, so last season, I think there was a reported deal on the table. He thought he was worth more bread. I think that number has now come down to around what he would have got last year.
Starting point is 00:41:19 But I like the six-man rule for him. You guys let Jordan Poole have freedom? That's about him. So I was like. Him! It don't get no, listen's what I'm saying. I am. Listen, when you... Like the way Jordan Poo plays, you'd be like...
Starting point is 00:41:32 You're like, what are you... You did it with Jordan, right? And you won. What's the difference between Kaminka? He said something. Did he say something about Steve Kerr? Who? Kaminka. You say he don't know his role. He don't know a reason.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Yeah, so he says shit like that. You said the same thing he said? Yeah. He said the same thing. He said the exact same thing this man just said. But it's a problem that it comes from the players, right? Yeah, coaches hate it. It's a problem that it comes from the players.
Starting point is 00:41:56 That's what I'm saying. No, he said the exact same thing Steve Kerr said. I'm skilled. I'm talented. I don't know where I fit in my role on this team. So the fact that- Steve Kerr. Is he talented? Darley says he's a talented player.
Starting point is 00:42:04 He's a talented player. He's a talented player. He's a talented player. He's a talented player. He's a talented player. the exact same thing Steve Kerr said. I'm skilled, I'm talented. I don't know where I fit in my role on this team. So the fact that- Steve Kerr, is he talented? Darley says, I'm trying to win. Is he, like, exactly. Once he said that, I seen it. No, that's what I said. The language, that language was bad.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Because all executives are listening to it the way they're listening to it. Yeah. Talented, but he probably don't know basketball. Yeah. And we have a basketball system here. We have basketball savants out here. And they're getting frustrated
Starting point is 00:42:37 with how he plays the game. It can't be Drake. You know, if... I'm getting it. Everybody wants to be Drake. Everybody wants to be Drake. He's not. He's not I know
Starting point is 00:42:56 Open but you know the fuck the bad part about it is put him in actual state think about the type of people He has on the team Right. You got Jimmy Butler links the game dream on Steph And then you got somebody else I met Jimmy Butler, links the game. Dre Mon, Steph. And then you got somebody else. Hey man, woo hoo! Got a weak one over here.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Got a five. Hey I know all that shit. Get Rupert Riggert over here man. I got 50. Hey I had to tell Tim Hardaway. That's all it is, that's offense. The Curry pass, you set a back screen. I had to tell Tim Hardaway, we was with the nigga, I had to tell Tim Hardaway, That's all it is, that's the offense. The curry passed, you set a back screen for the net.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I had to tell Tim Hardaway Jr. we was with the nigga, I had to tell Tim Hardaway Jr. we was the Knicks. Hey, Mello going into his boom boom, he over the, hey, I said, you can't do that when the nigga middle of his move, you know, young fella. He was a rookie, like, hey, you can't do that, dawg. That's the worst.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Everybody got one of those on the team. But you can't do that to Steph, you can't do that shit to Jibba, you can't do that to them. When I get that bitch and you call for it, I'm averaging nine, I'd stab him at this bitch, cool. Like everybody got one. That's the worst. You're talking,
Starting point is 00:43:58 it's the details of how Steve Kerr looks at the game, how Kerr replay at the game, how Kerr replays the game, how Draymond proves. So if I'm taking somebody off the dribble and I have this layup and it's like a 75% chance I'm gonna go, and then you got Kerr in the corner, his mind says, you make that pass. Yeah, right. Don't force this up there.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Even though you're you, and you can get that. It It's one of those if you miss it you can pull it out I'd rather you make that pass to step curry and he misses Versus you trying to make this how many times you're that so that one so his IQ is very low That's what he said he doesn't have like so like simple plays like that and that's what basketball terms That's what he said. He's a have like, so like simple plays like that. And that's what he said. In basketball terms, he said he's a low IQ basketball player and I can't trust him, I can't win with him. Skill, talent. I heard that.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Second game I heard that. First game I came out, had like 20, second game tried to do the same thing, and we don't do that here. We play winning basketball here, we don't do that shit. Who said that to you? Draymond. Okay, Draymond. We don't do that here. We play winning basketball here. We don't do that shit. Who said that to you? Draymond. Okay, Draymond.
Starting point is 00:45:07 We don't do that here. It was like, it was in the time out. So everybody could hear him saying that to you. Yeah. How did that make you feel, Swaggy? I was like, damn, yeah. What he said to you? Fucked up, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And it's not even being high or low IQ. It's just the system itself is designed around Curry's IQ and Draymond's IQ. So if you don't think like that, which that's top tier, you become dumb. You become basketball dumb to the system. I was gonna explain it. Nick probably made one, made two,
Starting point is 00:45:41 and he used to come down to the motherfucker and they called the set and they threw that motherfucker Nick said, I'm feeling it. And he shot that motherfucker, make or miss. He could have made that motherfucker. But they called the play. And that's what that shit is. He's trying to get.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Okay. You know what I'm saying? It's one of those things, man. Like let's say Curry's had a bad game and you came down and broke it and got open and Curry's in the corner And you can give him an easy shot that he hasn't had. You're supposed to make that pass. That messed up your head though.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah I know. I'm thinking I'm bad. Ah shit. Let me set this. Now you can have this motherfucker's rim. He opened up. I swear. I have a guarantee too but this is your only shot that you can get and get going then Curry's on fire It's like little things like that that coaches be What was the system did you think he did a lot of coaching with Katie and I'm there none at all
Starting point is 00:46:37 Now he has to coach You know, no, you think now he has to coach cominga. Yeah, so you think about everybody he won with Barbosa living I have a dollar. I don't have to coach that group. They know how to play basketball Now you gotta coach so that's what it's Frustration cuz you got a coach now gotta work. I gotta coach him by extra I gotta do extra like it just gotta be I'm having hard enough time trying to with Everybody you got that one fucking that one classmate that you will always like mm-hmm Like it's better like like if step is not on and like if Steph is not on the court, it makes it actually easier.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. That's when you, yeah. Okay. So, that's when I was about to fight in the OKC. Who? Steve Curran Dre, I was about to fight in the OKC. When we was about to play OKC.
Starting point is 00:47:38 That's when they had Paul George and all that. It happens, bruh. We went down, Swaggy, if you don't mind sharing with the group. Just like, keep it on the couch. Just to stay on the couch. Ain't down, Swaggy, if you don't mind sharing with the group. Just have to keep it on the couch. Just have to stay on the couch. Ain't gonna happen. I don't want no problem.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Is Steve Kirk swaying? I don't want a needle on the way. Nick had a heart attack. 38. 38 still. But moving back to Kaminga, obviously there have been reports of Warriors looking to move him. Is it best for Kaminga and the Warriors for them to trade him this
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah, yeah at this point or find a role for him and let's thrive in You can find a role This new CBA feels like a whole different world for free agency a lot of teams frankly don't have bread to spend And that's and so when people want to ask why teams are selling, this is it. I mean, is it wild to see what seven, eight days in the free agency now that he hasn't even gotten an offer sheet from another company. Why they sell is because how do I supposed to make like, imagine being the owner. Imagine buying a team in your okay, let's just go OKC. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Those players are kind of yours, right? You developed them. You drafted those guys. Now there's a rule in where I can't even pay my own guys, right? I don't mind paying 300, 300, 300 and then going over the luxury tax, whatever it is. I don't want to be charged fucking quadruple for going over the luxury tax on a team that is mine. Like, you know what I mean? So unless, like, if you want to penalize someone, you penalize people who are trying to super team. Cool.
Starting point is 00:49:13 But people who are developed, those guys have been in there three, four years and they're paying it because of the success. They're homegrown. You can't put them in the same luxury tax. Because then why do I want my fucking team then if I can never keep keep him if I can never keep my team no matter how much success I have But we're talking about okay, we're not talking about okay see who's gonna stop them We're talking about yeah when they get into that second, what is it called? Second apron, I don't want to pay the second apron. So I got to get rid of my players. That's not fair as owner
Starting point is 00:49:42 Yeah players that's not fair as owner yeah yeah so now you have something like that like most of those guys like come on man I want to get under now it's not about now it's not even about winning anymore everything got to go so you're trying to make you're trying to make it fair and these owners is like how do I supposed to make money and win like what is the point of it all I guess the question for you those why would why would the big baller owners allow this to happen? It seems like something that's a lot more favorable for the smaller market team.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Let me just be honest. To make them competitive. Or is it all of them just saving bread saying fuck it. Let me just ask you a question. Do you really think when they have these meetings, when they have these team meetings of, you really think Dolan is in that meeting? You think Bust is in that meeting you think bus was in that meeting you think any of the real big tycoons is sitting in these meetings no it's bottom feeding owners complaining that the big ones are not
Starting point is 00:50:37 revenue share and I can't get none of my lake of money for the clipper vision now they know Charlotte vision That's just regular No Hawks vision around his bit So they're mad that they can't share this money and the big ones like man, who are you down there? I mean this there's really different worlds you got Big money little money and little money is trying to make it even and the more you make it even it kind of tells the big One of our man if this is the type of league it even, it kind of tells the big money,
Starting point is 00:51:05 like, all right, man, if this is the type of league y'all running, I'd rather sell than cash out now. Why don't the big money just punk little money and call them some broke boys and say, that's what a luxury tax is. So the big money can't do that. That's why there's this luxury tax. So big money can't just sit there and buy every player
Starting point is 00:51:22 and little ones can't. Like think about, think about bomber. If there was no cap, if there was no luxury tax, buy every player and little ones can't. Think about bomber. If there was no cap, if there was no luxury tax, what do you think he does? See, go get it. Yeah, the USA Olympics. I'm about to say, I'm about to say.
Starting point is 00:51:35 They had a whole Olympic team. Oh, God. And they live in LA. The oldest NBA team in history. What? The dream team, too. Get your nice house in Manhattan Beach. It's just, he just buy, he just buy, he just buy.
Starting point is 00:51:48 You can only pay him 150, I pay him 300. What are you going to do? Right. You can't afford it. Come on over here. Come on. And that's what they end up doing. So they got to put rules in and salary cap.
Starting point is 00:51:57 That'd be hard though. So that don't happen. Now you're all on the same playing field and then the big guys, the big owners is like, this is some bullshit. Like I can't even keep my own players So was it the words that messed it up for? What in Miami is when KD came to the war is like damn you know who's nice It's it's it's even every lockout is its owners that can't agree to terms and then it's like I will take it from the players
Starting point is 00:52:21 That's how lockouts are is their meeting and then I'm not I'm not sharing my revenue money with'll take it from the players. That's how lockouts are. It's them meeting and then they're like, I'm not sharing my revenue money with you, take it from the players. Yeah. That's how it go. And they out in the open with breaking people down. They didn't try to kill Black and Mild on how they doing. So that's, so when you see like the finals,
Starting point is 00:52:38 like it's small market teams, it's like them trying to reward, hey, come on. Woo! It's all your trash. Neither here nor there, neither here nor there. I see what you're saying. But during the finals, we did some of the lowest numbers of the season them trying to reward. Hey, come on. Woo! Neither here nor there. Neither here nor there. But during the finals we did some of the lowest numbers of the season on Gils Arena presented by
Starting point is 00:52:50 100 Dog. Immediately when the finals ended numbers went back up. Not saying? Y'all don't want us talking about them. Cause I was mad. Y'all killin' small markets. But y'all weren't watching. But here we are. Anyway, back to Kaminga. Looking at the situation with the Warriors. A couple more questions. Should the way that Golden State has treated Kaminga
Starting point is 00:53:09 publicly make free agents wary of how they do business? By who do business? The Warriors? By how they do business? I've seen it before. I've got to treat him. At least they honest. At least he came out and said he was honest. I mean, they ain't try to do it like they did Black and Mild. They kind of doing it like they did Black and Mild. Like the laker. In a smarter way. In a smarter way.
Starting point is 00:53:33 No, but they want no, they wanted Black and Mild. They making shit nobody want. We were just wanting, but we wanted Black and Mild just for cheap, cheaper. They tried, they man's knees fuck You got a janky knee. Oh, man So are the Warriors playing themselves by diminishing comingus value in the trade market If this was a route you want to train them They say I want a promising young player in a first round pick that's the reports
Starting point is 00:54:02 Anthony Slater trade but put him in the doghouse towards the end of the season. Yeah, if you're trying to trade a guy, like if you're trying to trade a guy, talking shit about him doesn't help the trade because now I know you, you gotta get rid of him. What are you saying, playoff? You don't know where the play on man? Same thing he did with Jason Taylor? It's like, that's a fine line. When you're trying to get rid of a player for the value, but you're devaluing it in real time. If you can say, hey, we just don't know where to
Starting point is 00:54:33 fit him at because, you know, this is who we have at the fore and he's a four time champ. You know what I mean? Like you use those type of words. Like we don't have time to rebuild. Very good player. if Steph retires next year this is our future but unfortunately right now we just got a we can't we can't afford them say some dumb shit like that right and if you were like okay cool but you started saying shit like this like, oh, basketball dumb. Shit, he fit right in over here. Here, I got you two second rounders and all you can eat at Shakey's.
Starting point is 00:55:13 See if you gonna take it. You know, there's just, now I get to negotiate with you. Damn, so he gonna have to play this year out or take some sick? So I think what they tended to qualify on offer from number second, what they were expecting to do. And now, I think the qua, so he was, I think, the tended to qualify an offer from number second expect them to do and now I think of the cross. So he has he was I think the end of his Ricky deal They tendered that qualifying offer to retain his rights obviously keep him as a restricted free agent
Starting point is 00:55:34 And that's and so he just so to be one more year. No, I mean if you wanna find out Yeah, so if he decides to take that I think he'd become a unrestricted free agent That's or just to take that I think you become a unrestricted free agent next year. Yeah, see it doesn't. Or now test free agency this summer. Oh that would be devastating. I don't know who people's agents be when they be having that qualifying offer. That's the rookie deal though. They gonna let you ball for you to just walk?
Starting point is 00:56:00 Ain't that the rookie deal though? That's how the rookie deal works. That's gonna be deep on that. Got a pitch point. The other point about the CBA team just frankly don't have bread. Now everybody trying to avoid that second apron. I think the Nets were one of the few teams that actually has money just to sign free agents. So that big those big deals. We're just frankly not seeing that go get 30 right now. So at that position, man, they draft seeing it. Yeah, he's not gonna get 30 right now. Yeah, he's just set. Who's the first to pick it though, at that position? Man, they drafted five first round.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Listen, I knew it was gonna be trouble. Wait, what? The Nets drafted five first round. They didn't even. They had five first round picks? The Nets? Fuck. Who could use coming up?
Starting point is 00:56:39 And Cam Thomas restricted free agent as well for the Nets, also looking shaky on that side. No. You said Houston? Nah. No. Lakers, we'll take them out there for over. Somebody who can use them? Probably Boston.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Anybody that can keep, they keep, they, I just do. Hell yeah. Y'all just do what y'all do. I don't really. He might ball out. He ain't trying to pay nobody. But they're going to, but whatever, whatever he gets offered, they're not matching. Boston can't pay nobody.
Starting point is 00:57:03 I know. Boston can't pay nobody. But like I said, we're not eight, nine days into free agency. That's crazy. And the offer still hasn't materialized. I mean, that's the worst. And this is the thing. The report, him talking about he won $30 million a year, like, is he like, we know that to be true?
Starting point is 00:57:22 That's what I'm saying. So shit like that, right? That might not make a motherfucker not pick up the phone as well. 30 million. You sitting there like, yeah, that second April is kicking in, bro. I got you for 10. Wrong number. Wrong number.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Let me know it all. You should still be around. Click, click. Through the phone. You don't get signed in those first four days, man. I don't know, no team's ever used them. around click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click click I remember, you know, absurd, I'm going to a shit-cheap, but I'm taking this back. I know all the money's dried up, but now it's like... Man, you sitting there like... We got Jake Larravia. What?
Starting point is 00:58:10 First phone call. People are just like that. Listen, I'd rather sign my two for 18 today than try to wait for two for 25 tomorrow. Man. You say, you got 18? Cool. Sign it, let me get my part. Because at the end of the day, there's
Starting point is 00:58:24 going to be a group of dudes that thought they was worth something, that was waiting, that gonna have to sign qualifying offers and be mad at the motherfucker. Happens every year. But where can you? You don't wanna be there.
Starting point is 00:58:35 So according to reports, the Bulls are interested in potentially doing a signing trade for Kaminga. Oh, okay. Okay, for sure. Oh, you know who they looking like there trying to go after like a giddy type. That's the type of play. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah giddy The good Laura she's known it's I'm sure giddy They got Kobe White over there too, right New position put him at different pretty funny. They put giddy favorite new position. They put him at the point. They put Giddy at the one.
Starting point is 00:59:05 What? They put him at the point and say, yeah, just do you. Now you have a guy who's going to rebound, pass, shoot, like he hit shots. Oh, they would love that. He'll be his new person. I mean, yeah, Chicago looks like that team that would make it.
Starting point is 00:59:24 That's a new position right there. Who are Charlotte? They don't got no.? Yeah, Chicago looks like that's he's got to make it. That's the good thing is right there. Who are Charlotte, they don't got no. But do Chicago want to give up? Get him balled out for him. You would want to kick Gideon out. Gideon just got a deal or? I think he's looking for money too. Oh he a free agent?
Starting point is 00:59:42 And nobody's talking? Right, that's what I'm saying. He's still out? Oh, he a free agent and nobody's on He's still out yeah, I think he's looking at 30 million annually to according to reports just swap them out for 30 He looking for 30 million so it only makes sense if so If you're going got 11 million dollar qualifying offer that he could accept then he can become a free agent 2026 He's looking for the 30, Kamigah's looking for the 30. If you're Golden State, if you think Giddy's worth 30 million, then you would do the sign and trade. That's all it is, do I think he's worth 30 million to me?
Starting point is 01:00:15 I know he's not worth 30 million to me, but the guy I'm getting to, so I'll sign you, you can go there for the 30 million. It's not on my dollars, like what am I getting back? Is it worth 30 million? I mean, Giddy and Steph have the one and two. That's the fake. That's the on my dollar, it's like, what am I getting back? Is it worth 32? I mean, Gideon Steph had the one and two. That's the only thing I see with Chicago. If you're getting back Gideon for your offense
Starting point is 01:00:31 and help you with more passing and smart basketball. What does it do to Draymond? Because on offense, what does it do to him? He's definitely strictly a screener and he'll be in the way at times. Dre Ma? That means if you're going to go low ball, I mean if you're playing small ball, small ball, then Giddy will have 6'8", 6'9", with the shoes on. A lot of hockey assists, screen for Giddy,, passes to Dre Mon, get stuff open, that's the thing. It ain't the best shooter neither, so it ain't like this.
Starting point is 01:01:10 That's what I'm saying, hey. You did, that's a him and Dre Mon. The him and Dre Mon on the floor together. Him, Dre Mon, and Butler. Who is they pig right now? I mean, wasn't a Davis they are putting holes right here for you the fridge. What do you what? He's uh, he's when post. He was a big kid my stuff
Starting point is 01:01:35 They still got him and we got two big guys out there man. That's The policy I went in when one year left on his list. And then next year, the teams that didn't dump money this year are gonna be dumping salary next year. This getting nasty in the NBA? I mean, as I said, everybody's gonna get fucked in the next two, three years if you're not the main guy. Cause these teams don't know what the hell
Starting point is 01:02:00 that second apron is. They just... The main guy, like the number one guy? The number one guy gonna get paid. Yeah, that's a number two guy. Great role players and mid-level guys. I mean, the guys that's like the Giddies and the second, third option that's getting big money,
Starting point is 01:02:13 they're going to get screwed because teams that don't want to go on the second apron, they're like, I don't know what it is. I don't know how it's going to happen. The language is fucking me up. So I'm just going to try to stay out of the cap. So next summer, teams are gonna be dumping money again. What's the second?
Starting point is 01:02:28 Second. It's gonna be a fire sale. What is that? What is the second apron? Yeah, y'all keep saying that. What is the second? I mean, once you reach that second apron, it's a bunch of just janky shit that you can't do anymore.
Starting point is 01:02:38 You can't like, Sally related, Trey related. You can only basically sign like bad minimums. Oh, shit. You can't, you know, that teams used to finesse with moves to bring more money in or take more money out So everybody's trying to avoid it obviously And basically penalize the team for one to be good. It's been bred Penalized teens that want to be good. That's crazy. That's trying to make an even playing It's hard to do a benefit benefit you get up you get a thunder pacers final so
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Starting point is 01:04:39 What's up, Mitch? You know, you've had enough. What's up, you all right? You want this, huh? You know, Dodgers did get smacked by the Brewers yesterday. Drink you some brook. I'm going to get a chance to get my 2 on 2 championship again. That's your arm hair? You look like cat hair bro.
Starting point is 01:05:00 That shit look like cat hair. You ain't got no moustache. Man what occurred? I've never seen undead. That shit look like cat hair, man. I'm a bat. You ain't got no moustache. Man, what a cur like. I've never seen underarm hair so smooth, bro. You look like another man underarm hair. You look like a white man underarm hair, man. I'm mixed with Chinese. What a roll.
Starting point is 01:05:19 What a knapsack, man. I'm mixed with Chinese. Yeah, I see. That's crazy. She was throwing me off. Sui Yang., I see. That's crazy. She was throwing me off. Su-Yang. That was fake. Su-Yang.
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Starting point is 01:05:42 We appreciate you rocking with us throughout the summer. Again, doing better numbers than we did during the finals. I used to see somebody losing their shit up here is real light and just real fancy. Look like pubic hair. Yeah. Shit up here look like pubes. Like, niggas go get that hair transplant.
Starting point is 01:05:57 They go get that hair transplant. That shit don't take. That shit look like pubes. Aw, bruh, that ain't. A man unit. Yeah, that ain't, let it go, dawg. That ain't like pew. Oh, bro, that ain't the move. A man unit. Yeah, that ain't the move. Let it go, dawg. That ain't the move. So, Kyrie Irving, I've been doing a lot of streaming as he recovers from a torn ACL
Starting point is 01:06:12 he suffered late last season. So during a recent stream, a fan asked him if he will be back in time for the playoffs. Will you be back by playoffs? Don't hold your breath on that, you know what I'm saying? It doesn't mean that I won't be back. I don't want to make any predictions on when I'm going to be back. I just want to be back 150,000% better. So I'm taking my time right now to really get healthy.
Starting point is 01:06:34 I'm taking my time to really get my body right, other portions of my body right, and really just enjoy this recovery process, man. It's not pretty. Yes, it is a beautiful struggle, but I go through kind of the mental rollercoaster ride every day, just wanna be back out there. Salute to Kyrie for keeping the pick in the Afro. Have not seen that.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Extensively. Oh, man, that was so funny, though. Black Jesus in the back. Oh, God, you got his sense in your brother there. That was funny. So Kyrie said, don't hold your breath on seeing him in the 2026 postseason. Didn't rule it out, but you. Instance, instance. Breathless there. Cut out. That was funny. So Kyrie said, don't hold your breath on seeing him in the 2026 postseason.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Didn't rule it out, but you said don't hold your breath. But if that indeed is the case, how far can the Mavs go if Kyrie doesn't return at all next season? To the rookie of the year, I think. To the rookie of the year. If he doesn't return? Have made some moves this off-season? Got to see what they look like when the season starts.
Starting point is 01:07:27 It's too early to predict anything. We don't know who they're going to start at. They got a little deal over there, right? Yeah. D'Angelo Russell. I think they still have enough to make the playoffs. Yeah, they can make the playoffs. But how far can they go? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:37 I just want to see how they look, how they're going to play. Healthy Anthony Davis, Cooper Flag, PJ Wilder. They got enough pieces to beat. Clay still over there. They still got enough pieces, but I want to see how looked once the ball goes in but it seems like a strong wall Makes them a lot better team with him. Absolutely. But even without them big like they might not be favored this year And even guard Be up there
Starting point is 01:08:06 They'll be up there. Yeah. Everybody helping him coming back. They'll be up there. They got one. They got plenty. They got a little deal. I know, but what else you got though? Clay can still shoot at Clay. I'm talking about that. Hardee? Hardee? They got aggressive on them.
Starting point is 01:08:22 They got Hardee, Max Christie. They got CJ, AD. Why would you do that? That front court is a big one. That front court is nice, but that. They hold it down. They'll be all right. Like that's a, that's a player we need right now.
Starting point is 01:08:35 But I get it, you know, you're trying to get Luca. Max Christie. AD Max Christie in the first round. Got him real young, he now developing. They look good Championship it all depends on how he D playing That's why I say even without they're making the playoffs That's enough but you mean you said the Lakers make playoffs.
Starting point is 01:09:09 That'd make it up. Yeah, there'd be you've been saying the Lakers don't have enough looking this roster right here as I want more. I'm trying to. I already guarantee Dallas roster already. They didn't say championship. Look what they plan to guarantee job. That's a guarantee. 2026 championship. And for the guaranteed 2026, I don't think we have enough. I don't believe it.
Starting point is 01:09:31 You think he'd be going to Ohio golfing if he thought we had enough? He's as to being in a gym doing this yoga shit, right, getting ready for the season. Oh, that's true. Oh, man. We need a couple more pieces, man. You think Bron golfing.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Somebody fucking golfing in fucking Ohio. You got to learn something else. It's hottest shit out there. Ohio has one of the top 200 golf clubs. That's all they got. One of the top 200. All the good ones is here. You think Tiger Woods go to Ohio?
Starting point is 01:10:02 Yeah. The golf? Like, y'all, let me just go in and fly my jet to Ohio. Yo, I heard not the bra andy. Yeah, but LeBron lives in Ohio There's an Ohio here to go to some school go see a summer school nobody lives in Ohio man, it's crazy Damn, so we need a couple more peaches Cooper flag a B PJ is enough almost in clay clay clay Thompson play Cooper flag AB PJ the nuff Really a veteran team. Yeah, it's a night. Yeah, you're gonna make the playoff So you got a gentle or a four night?
Starting point is 01:10:48 What clay does you think New Orleans? It's a little bit night. night listen if you think New Orleans has a chance to make the play No, they're better. Like, if we do a mediation with you and D'Elon and Kwame, then... I don't know. Me and Kwame gonna sit right here. That's cool. He can sit right here. All right, have him sit between us. If we do an episode with D'Elon and Kwame, I think... Yeah, we need to come together. They got the real problem. Mine was created just for views, I guess.
Starting point is 01:11:21 You got a real problem, too. Motherfucker. You got a real problem too. Motherfucker. You got a real problem. You were just too, man, I'm just saying, man, because you can't even give Dallas a fair assessment. They don't. You were talking good about him until D-Lil got there. Hey, they fucked up everything.
Starting point is 01:11:37 What can I say? Shit. Bring the look. Look at us. When he left, he went to what number three? See what I mean? All right. Well, no, Dallas will be all right. So another reporter I got to talk to that dropped today.
Starting point is 01:11:56 So Kyrie out most of if not all next season. Anthony Davis becomes the number one option. He was also the focal point of the Luka trade. We have a health update on AD from Sean earlier today. He broke his back. I told you. Anthony Davis underwent a procedure to repair a detached retina that he suffered during the season. Sources tell us that he was played through multiple hits to the face last year. He's expected to be healthy for next training camp. What the? Part of your eye?
Starting point is 01:12:24 That is part of your eye. Well, he can't even shoot them. They blind. You know what I mean? Soon when D-Lo came, the nigga got blind. Expected to be. I told you. I told you.
Starting point is 01:12:35 He can't see. Expected to be healthy for training camp. You know, he gonna snitch on who? I ain't do shit. I'm blind. You gonna snitch on a blind nigga? Barely. I ain't never seen nobody snitch on a blind. AD played a non-regular season of games after their trade to Dallas last season, averting 20 points, 10 boards, two blocks per game.
Starting point is 01:12:56 So what are your expectations for AD as the Mavs' number one option next season? His retina now reattached. He just had surgery? He just had surgery. He has retina, Now, reattach. He just had surgery. He just had surgery. Detach retina, yeah, he had surgery. Underwinter procedure. When was their last game? April what?
Starting point is 01:13:13 It was in the month of April. Maybe he tried some natural remedies that did not work. Wanted to do some sightseeing before getting the surgery? You probably thought he could lay the heel on his own. Like he probably, yeah, that's one of them things. Cooper flag came. Like you think he could lay the heel on his own and it didn't, it didn't.
Starting point is 01:13:34 It didn't get any better? It changed, you're getting, I'm saying you're getting examined and things like that and just probably decided, okay, we need to do this. If we're gonna do it, then we need to do it now. So, that's what happened to him. How long has it been? Mads last game, April 18th, AD had 40 in that game. Yeah, then we need to do it now. So, that's what I'm doing. How long has he been in there? Mads last game, April 18th, AD have 40 in that game.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Yeah, he's gotta sleep face down. They said he should be ready for a few days. Sleep face down? Probably son, son. He did. Get the pirate patch? No, you gotta sleep face down for a few days with your head in it, so it's like a massage table.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Why you gotta do that? I'm just curious. Whatever the blood pressure, depression, it's something flowing, it just wasn't. Imagine if he sleeps upright. That's why I know this, but. Imagine if just whatever the blood pressure depression. It's some flow and just what madden if you sleep up, right? I asked more I noticed but imagine if he fuck around roll over he done the whole Sensitivity light sensitivity. Yeah, I took a bunch of hits in the face So what was before they had the surgery what was bother? Damn oh So what was before they had the surgery what was bothering you? God damn.
Starting point is 01:14:29 Oh, God damn. So like what was the symptoms like blurry? Okay, okay. She cool now? Yeah. Okay. How long was it? How long was it hurt?
Starting point is 01:14:46 Eight weeks? Okay. They said he'll be ready for training camp. All right, so he's so wearing glasses and a mask probably Like a Mari eight weeks of doing nothing so I get the same thing like a Mari that's why Mari was good goggles for the rest It's career because if he get if he got hit again, there a chance that he can go blind. So it's rather you wear protective Goggles then that's why he only took him out to shoot free throws You say the bar went to the line took the mother goes off shoot his free throws There's action going on. He put them bitches back home. So Fat blinding the goggles and they gonna make the playoffs
Starting point is 01:15:23 And they gonna make the playoff Yeah, I'll be down for you. We expect to be healthy when I'm at it You want to bet they make the plan eight weeks a day doing nothing and they gonna ramp it up You can't do nothing with I because everything you do you gonna be shaking this shit Think about it you trying to strain your eye, pop out. Come on, man. You're trying to do a whole lift, and you're trying to see shit. You're trying to look, wait.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Ah, nigga, I just. I can do squats with no eye. See? I told you. I bet. I know they ain't making it. Man, Stevie Wonder did beautiful music. Beautiful music.
Starting point is 01:16:00 But shit, that's Stevie. He was born like that. He ain't seen shit yet, OK? You don't know if he getting a dollar or a hundred, right? Stop. Still ballin'. Nah, nah, you gonna have to do more. I'm just saying. All I'm saying is, he can do what he needs to do.
Starting point is 01:16:14 He got AC Green, AD with gargoyles. He sayin' he don't know between the two of them. He gonna be like James Worthing and AC Green. No shit, I'm just saying. Think about it. Think about it. Nah, shit. He's sleeping on his stomach. Murphy said it's a baby. He's sleeping He's sleeping on his stomach. Murphy said it today. Like a baby.
Starting point is 01:16:25 He's sleeping like a baby on his stomach. I was talking about when Davey Parks at the B-Tail where Steve Warner came out there. I'm just like, little shit like that, B-Bot like, no. Has he ever been to a strip club? No. He ever been to a strip club? He be like, yo, if I throw a one, it's all I throw a eight. You know what Eddie Murphy told him shit.
Starting point is 01:16:33 All that singing and piano, all that shit impressed shit. You want to impress me, shit, here, take this wheel for a minute. I'm like, what? I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:16:41 I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I That's all I could do. Know what Eddie Murphy told him shit. All that singing and piano, all that shit impressed shit. You want to impress me shit here, take this wheel for a minute. I don't know how we got to Stevie's wheel. That's not fair at all. It was right in line. It was in the neighborhood. Take this wheel. That nigga's fucking is like.
Starting point is 01:17:03 He's behind the wheel. He wanted the move. Genius. Back to the AD conversation. Hopefully everything is good to go with AD. What are your expectations for AD as the Mavs' number one option next season? What he did as the number one option with the Lakers,
Starting point is 01:17:18 26 and 11, 12. Remember he got goggles on. 26, 11, 12. Two blocks, four assists. But the shit he been doing. The shit he, 12. Two blocks, four assists. But the shit he been doing. The shit he been doing. There ain't no fucking difference. They're still the same guys he playing against.
Starting point is 01:17:31 That he been busting their ass. Same shit. Ain't nothing go change. That's a fact. When was he healthy? Healthy Anthony Davis is, yeah, we know what he do. You know what we just say, healthy Anthony Davis. You know, Anthony Davis Davis like Carl Anthony.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Right. So it's just sometimes during the game, you just like come on. Come on man. This is what the bullshit now. But he can have 40 and 20. How many players? He's falling out one time. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:18:00 How many players do we say that? All the numbers go out the way. You know what I mean? Here we go. Right? He just got a dunking hand one. Just, how you get hit in the eye? That's right.
Starting point is 01:18:12 It's like three players in the league. I can only imagine how y'all feel. Like, Lakers fan, when he do it, when he go down, he can sit grabbing something. I can only imagine how y'all feel every time he does it. Because I think this shit be like, God damn, my niggas. Like, it's just the, I don't know what it is. It's just, you know, it's just him. Just, you just be sitting there like,
Starting point is 01:18:30 aw, he killing it tonight. You expected the worst, but he didn't hit. We be like, oh my god. Yeah, you expect toe and hamstring, like, oh shit, here he go. Here he go. What happened? Oh, he caught a cramp.
Starting point is 01:18:40 There we go. You're comfortably saying it happened about 25, 30 times in the past couple, and we were just like, aw, fuck. Every time. That's what I said, it's just, We go Happen about 25 30 times in the past couple absolutely There's always them too is just like him it this no matter what they numbers are just what they do on a course of time Just throws it off Yeah, there's no words just Let's move over to the we do that to every time.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Yeah, there's always like bear just don't just don't be normal. But even Draymond Draymond get that to oh some time. Yeah, come on. Don't make a bad crazy. You like yo niggas Niggas, chill. Niggas, chill.
Starting point is 01:19:22 It's a five-way game, chill out. It'll be some shit like, niggas step on the line. Niggas shoot 90, 99 percent, nigga, in these situations. And you're going to get an offense, fighting the niggas trying to go get the offensive rebound on the free throw line, like, dude. Like, come on, man. The funny part is, all they be doing to Dre Mon is this. Don't touch me. Don't touch me.
Starting point is 01:19:46 What? Like, Draymond, come on, man. Natural basketball motion. It never is fall out of hand. We just watched, it was just a little tap. When he jumped off the bone. Yeah, when he jumped off the bone. When you stand, I said, yo, this is... What's funny is
Starting point is 01:20:02 it goes from like, really battling It's just some random shit and dream I just get mad. I just be like When they losing if they lose it like awesome, you know, you know, you know, you're gonna kick out That's not playing. It's become the kick out if you're not playing I put that on the dog when Steph not playing. When Dre might get kicked out, yeah. He normally do.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Higher or lower. Higher or lower. That motherfucker's out here. Higher or lower, man. I'm not playing with these little bastards. I'm playing with these stupid. I was moving over to Eastern Conference with Orlando Magic took a major step towards securing their future.
Starting point is 01:20:43 So yesterday, Shams reported that Paolo Banquero and the Magic have agreed to a five year, $239 million rookie max extension that could be worth up to $287 million. So the deal contains triggers that could raise the base salary to the super max if Banquero makes an all NBA team, wins MVP or wins defensive player of the year next season.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Deal also includes a player option that hasn't been included in a rookie max since 2021 when Trey Young and Luca Donovan received those perks. So not the pocket watch. Check it. Not the pocket watch. But Shaq in his entire NBA career made $286 million. This extension has the potential to reach that. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:21:21 God bless you. Max is Max. He can make $287 just on this deal low. So what's your reaction to Palo? Check it. Sign of the Mac extension with him. He gonna be all NBA. He's making all NBA.
Starting point is 01:21:34 First team? Is it first team? Either one. Just any of the three. The MVP and all these, that shit just a throw in. I hate it. That's why I said I hate incentive deals, man. Like it just.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Well that's I mean how those, those. That's easy. All NBA team. Just give me one. All NBA for him is easy. Yeah. A healthy, a healthy Paulo last year. Like he's one of the 15 best players.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Like defense player to you. What was the other one? MVP. Just give him my God damn money. That's what I did. Like how much money, like how much money is attached? How much money is attached to those? So it's 236 just as is and get it up to 287 with one of them.
Starting point is 01:22:14 So it's another 50. So he had one of those. So if he win one MVP. No, he only got to win MVP. If he makes all the NBA team, he jump to the Supermax. So Ricky Maxx right now jumps to Supermax if he hits one of those criteria. Oh, at any point? He's going to make all the NBA team, he jumps to 287. So Ricky Maxx right now jumps to Super Maxx if he hits one of those criteria. He's going to make All-MBA.
Starting point is 01:22:27 At any point? He's going to make All-MBA team, man. No, I mean at any point, it jumps up to the max. So out of the five years. Out of the five years if he hits it. Next season specifically if he hits it. So he's going to... Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:22:40 A healthy Paulo back challenge. That man had choice but to just... Orlando was the top player. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't fuck him. You can't fuck him. Because you trying to make the playoffs, you trying to do this, so you gotta... Healthy power Because you trying to make the playoffs you trying to do this so you gotta 46 games last season obviously had the the injury but average 26 eight rebounds five assists in those 46 and everybody Yeah, no Tatum in his way Only thing you gotta worry about is New York
Starting point is 01:23:06 So you got even oh yeah, Cleveland, but they ain't got yeah, he's Off the jump he's second. Yeah, he should be second team. So this is Apollo makes the jump being a household name Yeah, easy. Yeah, he's like it. He's like he's I like that for Orlando. I like him too Obviously, I lost the expectations coming into last season Man, they're gonna get a goddamn problem next year. Very problematic. Orlando will be a whole problem They're gonna be a whole problem over there. I'm sorry though. He is shooting him, but he is shooting him. And he defend too. And he not just a shooter though. I like it. I'm not saying I don't like it, I like it. He can go get the bucket. That's what I'm saying. It could take away some of his points.
Starting point is 01:23:47 No, no, no, no. He can go after some dough. Because Bane is a quick shooter. Yeah, Bane is a quick shooter. Bane can go after 20. He can go after 20 and shoot a high clip from three from the free throw line. And when he off the floor, you can run plays through Bane.
Starting point is 01:23:58 He a playmaker. He can play. I thought he was just a shooter at first. But he can play, for sure. He can actually play. Do y'all feel like this is your Pablo makes the jump to be in the household now? Still plays in Orlando.
Starting point is 01:24:08 Yeah. Unfortunately, small. But basketball fans. We talking about the best to be top four in the East. He makes some noise. He makes some noise. Oh yeah, they're top four, top five. Magic playing an exciting brand of basketball.
Starting point is 01:24:19 They're top five. They sure do. The East is open though. So. It's trending up. Yeah. Definitely trending in that direction. You can't watch Orlando. Huh? I can't watch Orlando, I'm sorry. The East is open though. So trending up. Yeah, definitely I can't watch on that. I'm sorry. I like Pablo great when the best I just hello Pete Carol. Yeah, like for some reason I can't
Starting point is 01:24:33 Is it the Disney World style? What is it cuz the Disney World watch I had a land of I was Orlando Stuff when they went to Disney and all, you got kids. T-Mac jersey. I played there for a minute. When T-Mac was there, you watched it a little bit. Yeah, you for sure watched it. The White. The White, yeah. They were still good. You know what, because I think it's...
Starting point is 01:24:57 After The White. The White, yeah. After The White. After The White. Yeah, I think after The White left it was kind of it died down all I know for us here So I mean they had picked all the depot like he was in the dunk contest But other than that it was like it died down Because I was last chance I had a chance to win it off once they little yeah That's when they lost my yeah when they let old people like no only they both sung the motherfucking national anthem before the game
Starting point is 01:25:25 Oh, here we go My teammate did it chill out and I'm pretty sure He did it for us to I already know No way Game six and we lost and Jerry did an amazing job We lost game six not the fighter Jerry Stackhouse He's looking there nobody
Starting point is 01:26:08 Yeah, yes, nobody said nothing you man you better man you better Game six you out there Yes, you can't look hard singing which is not the playoff game. Yeah, come on man Game 31 The playoff game. Yeah, come on man. Hey game 31 We were to veto this yeah, come on with a veto Everybody was sitting there just like this. Yo, A-Lamone too. Take it there, Jerry. Jerry! Get one high five.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Yo, Josh, I got that shit going. I gave six. Hey, I'm gonna kill this thing. You're gonna sing it for me? Sing this shit. I'll sing it. Going back to fucking Atlanta. We was sitting there like, I remember
Starting point is 01:27:00 when he first walked in, we were like, you about to dress the crowd? Everybody was like, no were like, you about to dress the crowd? Everybody was like, right? And he looking dead out of here. No, facts. Nah, y'all didn't do that. Couldn't have been us, though. Facts, facts.
Starting point is 01:27:15 I took that mic out of my ass. We didn't have no mic. Yeah, you would've got your ass. Nah, seriously, there's like a sit-out. He's whooping ass. Game six? Him and his brothers. Game, it's mostly that happened. No, it was Mike, no, yeah, yeah. Yeah, game six in the playoffs. Yeah, we did, yeah, it's game six. He's whooping ass. Game six? Him and his brothers. Game exposed later, huh?
Starting point is 01:27:25 No, it was Mike, no, yeah, it was, yeah. Yeah, game six on playoffs. Yeah, we did, yeah, it was game six in our, in our. And y'all lost? And y'all just act like it was nothing, huh? After y'all lost, he was okay. Game 31. Yep, go to game, back to Atlanta, Magic City.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Damn, that's fucked up, bro. I beat him for $9,000. He wrote me a check for 2,000. Said, we good? Yep. Hey, ain't no, he ain't lying. I beat him for $9,000. He wrote me a check for two thousand. Are we good? Yep Spective See what he did for three hundred dollars He ain't like a like Jerry Jerry will bring out that checkbook. He did that to both. I owe you this here you go Jerry's back writing a check and a fight come with this check niggas
Starting point is 01:28:21 Jerry, laugh at that, man. I don't even know if I cashed it. I don't even know if I cashed it. All right, you're like, so I ain't even cashed it. If you see this coming. No, listen, Jerry, listen, you playing Texas Hold'em against Jerry, you're going to win some money. You're going to win some money against Jerry. You're going to win it.
Starting point is 01:28:35 You're collecting this problem. You're going to win it, but are you actually going to collect it? Yeah, yeah, the per diem, then if it go over that, you know, hey, it's for you, buddy, if you're going to loan him the money. Get out, you're leaving. Get it with your hand. Come get it with your hand. And a fight come with this check.
Starting point is 01:28:51 That's it. He gonna write it. You know how that check keeps ripping? There you go. Yep. Here you go, motherfucker. What I gotta do? What was this?
Starting point is 01:29:03 Hey, hey, hey, don't look around and like this is it. Nah, nah, it's fine. You just say, okay, like he looked at you, look at you. You just say, hey, look up. You know, he said he on a nine, he gave him $2,500. Alright, cool, man. I looked at that thing like, yeah. This is nice.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Hey, thank you, sir. Hey, thank you sir. Oh, you know, I get some gas money. And you're waiting to look up and say something. Yep. I Put his hand up on the table for you know what I got you this hand It's like both ours. Yeah, it's like both. Give it to me later, man Good team mate scared shit. Just give it to me later They're gonna buy a stack out look at that gear like Where's our veterans at?
Starting point is 01:30:20 Everybody got one person everybody doing it everybody like this Damn, they wait no gear to say something, they waiting on the reaction. That's my first time. That's different. N***a like him, n***a like George McCloud, n***a you heard about, bruh like, listen up. Wait, so he used to walk around singing and shit too? Or no? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:40 How y'all know what he's singing? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. He can sing. No, he can sing. No, no, no no like we have seen singing in practice hours everything Just so you know like he may go up there you you want an answer to just laugh Oh, look at this nigga right here. I mean no I definitely never saw that so I was definitely on like I was like oh shit I'm very good doing the regular
Starting point is 01:30:58 I'm all for doing Right we gotta win. We gotta win, brother. I just don't know if we would have heard that shit before. I'm like, listen, hey Jerry gonna see the national anthem before the six, before game six. I was like, no the fuck he ain't. That's right. No, listen, that shit is on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:31:18 No, seriously, it's a game six. A very beautiful rendition of the national anthem. Game six, I'm like, yo, we got this. We got to get Atlanta out of here. We had teammates in motherfucker. And then he went up there. Game 27. And Childs team. New dude. Game six, I'm like, yo, we got this. We got to get Atlanta out of here. We had teammates in Muffin. And then he went up there. Game 27, and the shower scene.
Starting point is 01:31:29 New dude, hey man. We don't do that in here at all. We don't sing here, we don't have fun up in here. Yeah, not after we lose, we ain't doing that, man. A singing in the shower after a look. Is diabolical, it's in certain situations, man. You seen how I do that in the league. You guys just sit, but if you got,
Starting point is 01:31:43 certain locker rooms, you listen, certain locker rooms you can do it in. But certain locker rooms there's just certain things as during my tenure just like just was no good. It's a different vibe. It depends on how we lost. It's like we went out there and lost about 35. Oh yeah. Oh you can do what the fuck you want to. Ain't nothing we can do about it, bro. Did you contribute? Okay. What was your role in this loss?
Starting point is 01:32:15 Or this one? Yeah, yeah it does. Sometimes we don't wanna hear that shit, brother. You gotta act mad. Like you just got done hearing this motherfucker's mouth up here, the head coach, he on some bull shit. He didn't say some shit that he had everybody that motherfucker like really do Then you got to get in there singing like hey, man We easy kill like we don't do that here. I respect them but back back to the magic real quick
Starting point is 01:32:36 So magic now have a core of a Paulo Franz Wagner and Jaylen sucks under contract for the next five years Obviously like we mentioned they also just traded for Desmond Bane who's under contract for the next five years. Obviously, like we mentioned, they also just traded for Desmond Bain, who's under contract in the 28th, 29th season. So how much faith do you have in this Magic roster to make some noise in the East next season? What did that constitute for you as a successful season for the Magic? Have not been out of the first round since 2010. It was a five seed before last.
Starting point is 01:33:01 They got injuries last year. They best two players in this significant time. Took the Cavs to seven, two years ago. So coming back, we was expecting them to be top four this past season. Yeah. So I'm thinking top three, four, four in the East. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:33:16 It is a winter East Coast Conference. Granted, gotta throw this at Cavs. Everyone's healthy. For most of the year, they will be top three, four teams in East. With Jamal Moore's down to the ham, I'm saying that. So, we asked the chat, can the Mavs win the East in 2026? Wait, you said, wait.
Starting point is 01:33:33 Can the Mavs win the East in 2026? Mavs or Magic? Magic. Magic. Can you play or fuck up? Oh, no, no, no, no. You just wanna make sure, right? No, the man asked you twice and you said it twice. Can the Magic win the East in 2026?
Starting point is 01:33:45 51% of the chat says yes. I appreciate it, guy. Wait, 51% said yes? 51% believe that the Orlando Magic. I mean, listen, the East is open. So this year, you know, with a lot of injuries and everything. So I mean, I know. You got a coach, right?
Starting point is 01:33:56 You already got a coach. Just depends on who's healthy and who's available. Oh, he's fine. Mike Brown. You still got Cleveland. Healthy Cleveland is an issue New York Donovan Mike Brown, okay, Orlando Can it when he's got
Starting point is 01:34:14 Forlander they could but yes Wide open. This is not wide open. It is Cavs is the number one team last year wide open. Yeah it is. Cavs was the number one team last year. And what does that mean? When we say this wide open, the most dominant team was the Cavs and everybody coming back. So it's not like... They did take the Cavs to a seven. Yes they did. That's what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is the team is, when we're talking about winning the East, the team that won the East last year is still all intact. Orlando got better. So Orlando got better. Cavs got Lonzo. They can win the Eastman. This is the makeup 20-something game. I don't think they can say they best. Apollo missed 40 games last year, bro. Fox missed 40 games last year.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Facts, facts. Desmond Bane, that was a dub. They wouldn't get 20 points out of KCP. They wouldn't get 20 points out of Cole and Anthony. They got better, bruh. Suggs was hurt also. Suggs was hurt most of the year. Them dudes, man, they got better. So you're right. Easier road than the Capulet.
Starting point is 01:35:14 I think they can. Y'all won't run through the East again like y'all did this year. Because y'all going to have people's attention this year. You know what? Y'all caught people off guard. Thank you, good. I'm going to go ahead and backtrack.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Y'all won't run. I'm like Atlanta. I mean, cause East is open. I mean, but this is a good chance for Donald Mitchell to be that number one obstacle in the team. That's gonna be a good race. Also have the Pistons. And we don't know what Philly gonna be. You said no.
Starting point is 01:35:37 No, we do. We don't. We gonna start off good, then it's gonna be fun. We don't even know if we gonna start off good. We thought that last. Then the ankle delay ain't gonna be a tap. We gotta get a new one. Yeah, we didn't know what the fuck they was. But, I forgot about Detroit. We thought that last Angle delay gonna be a tear. We gotta get a new one
Starting point is 01:35:54 I forgot about Detroit. I like BJ though. I forgot about Detroit as a top two team not top two, but they're gonna be good Orlando and a fray where you can All right, well. It's going to be an injury. I forgot they did miss 47 games. You all right? Both got hurt. Y'all don't like Milwaukee? And it was staggered too, Gil. It was like, it was staggered. Then he went, he came back, then he got hurt. Or they was out at the same time. They like, overlapped, but it was, it was straight.
Starting point is 01:36:11 You're right, you're right. Oh yeah, they both did get hurt. They're going to be in the same injury too. That's crazy shit. It's with them though. And can I ask how Milwaukee won the end season tournament? Say it again now, what now? That's why Milwaukee won the end season tournament.
Starting point is 01:36:19 They beat Orlando, right? Yeah. They beat Orlando. They beat Orlando. They beat Orlando. They beat Orlando. They beat Orlando. They beat Orlando. They beat Orlando. They beat Orlando. And the same injury too, that's crazy shit. That's what they'll do. And you know how Milwaukee won an end season tournament? Say it again, that what now? That's why Milwaukee won an end season tournament.
Starting point is 01:36:28 They beat Orlando, right? They get there. Did we make that bet? Brother, I didn't pay attention to it. Once the Lakers lost, I was good. I just remember y'all making the bet. And Wafaa got hurt. Yeah, he got hurt.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Yeah. No, Philly and Pablo got hurt, so that's why they... Who got no boo? Who got no boo? Nobody, no, we took it off. Okay, y'all opted out of the bet? Yeah, because KJ got traded. What the fuck I'm gonna... What the fuck I'm standing strong for with Philly Fund?
Starting point is 01:37:00 He wasn't playing, then... Yeah, I like KJ though. Let's talk about KJ. Currently, the Utah Jazz, playing in the Salt Lake Summer Liddy. Number five overall pick, Ace Bailey. Played his first game this weekend, had another game yesterday. Let's take a look at the highlights
Starting point is 01:37:16 of Ace Bailey in the second game. Bailey looked much more comfortable in this game after going three of 13 in his first summer league game last weekend. He had 18 points on seven for 14 shooting from the field. Showcases athleticism with few highlight real dunks. They even bring it in. And made three of his five three-pointers as well.
Starting point is 01:37:33 So three of five from deep. That's not Isaiah, right? That's not Isaiah, right? No, that's not Isaiah. I'm not saying anything. Yeah, that's Isaiah. Oh, he's got some balls. I was like, making that pass like that.
Starting point is 01:37:42 Straight away three. Ace Bailey also had seven rebounds, dished out three assists. I was like making that pass like that. It's better. I'll try it seven rebounds dished out three assists for 18.7 rebounds three assists. Oh, that's not him. Why you look so tall bro? I'm not gonna front. He do look tall as fuck. I'm not gonna front like from the highlight that I saw before college.
Starting point is 01:38:02 He did not look. He did not look that big in college. They try to I got to say was seven and a half with the shit He measured him so so y'all think they just gonna say no they measured him at six seven half and they did No, no Seven without he's without his shoes though without his shoes in six Oh, he's six'9", all of 6'10". He played in a shoe that's 6'9". No, I didn't know he was that big. That motherfucker was like 8'7". You see that's all, he looked, it was that power shit.
Starting point is 01:38:30 Yeah, yeah. No, that's a big shit. He's athletic, he's long. No, seriously. He's athletic, he's shit. Seriously, I didn't know he was, he looked little, like, I mean, he looked, you know.
Starting point is 01:38:39 Skinny little, but right there. He's a 6'7", normal shoe size, was it two inches, so he's 6'9 and a half. If he wears the bronze, he's 6'10. Depending on what shoes he wears, so he's 6'9 and a half. That looks about 6'9 and a half. So listen, to go back to our point earlier, what he was saying, if Zion is 6'6 and that's 6'9", he's playing what?
Starting point is 01:39:08 What position is he playing? 3'2". If he do it like that, Zion 6'7". No, he's 6'8". 4'. Zion was 6'5' without his shoes. So just think about the position that he'll be playing at that height.
Starting point is 01:39:22 All he going to be doing is going to Cooz and Wood and all these powerful. Not a big man game. Who's the three cool? You must say for no, no, he's the guy who's five barefoot. Who's plays a three on that team? Yonis plays a four and then miles
Starting point is 01:39:36 to five hours turn is the five hours for Gary. What's the name? Taylor, Pablo, Pascal, Ryan, Durene Gardner, who's that? Lord Norquist and Cal Cousins with Jeremy Grant, Josh Hart, Aaron Gordon, Tobias Harris.
Starting point is 01:39:53 I'm just saying what the white shirt looks like. The team that he plays on. I just typed it in. So the team that he plays on, what position is he, Nick? I'm just saying. They're telling me what power fours he is. Okay, whatever they got to do with his name, does he play the power forward on that team
Starting point is 01:40:06 when he's on the floor with Giannis? Damn. So who's the power forward? So who's the power forward? He played both. No, who's the power forward when he started the game? So him and Giannis on the floor together. Who's the power forward?
Starting point is 01:40:15 Him, Giannis, and Lopez. And Miles Turner. It's Miles Turner. Oh, Miles Turner's down. Or when he had Lopez. Or Lopez. Or Bobby Porter. I don't know who started it.
Starting point is 01:40:22 They all start. Lopez starts, Giannis starts, Kuzma started. Bobby starts, Kuzma starts. Bobby comes off the bench. What is he? He's a four. Bobby Porter's is a powerful. Our starter lineup right now is Kevin Porter Jr., Gary Krant Jr., Kuzma, Yannis, and Miles Turner. Miles Turner, Yanis and Kuzma? Kuzma, yeah. Yeah, Kuzma at the three. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:40:48 You can put him there. You know, you can put him there. That's where you're at. No, I said he's a part for it, though, so. P.O. by his name. I'm just going by what they put him. Oh, okay. Back to the current discussion.
Starting point is 01:40:58 I'm a part for it. What are your first impressions of Ace Bailey in the jazz uniform? Obviously, some believe we don't want to look too much into it. Bounce back, I'm thinking 8.7 rebound game against Vijay Edgecombe in the sixers in his first summer league action. I mean like that. I mean like that. 18 and 7. No, I mean just I look at like attributes.
Starting point is 01:41:20 Like you know getting to your shots. Like you making shots is not that important right now because it's all new. Like, how are you getting to it, right? The NBA line is bigger than or further than what it was when you played. So all this is adjustment. Like, how are you getting to your spots?
Starting point is 01:41:36 Are you getting to what you do? Like, so I look for little things like he caught the shot, didn't pull it down, took that shot right there. That's gonna be big at his size. Unblockable, I mean that's an unblockable shot. It's too it's too fast to react to it. You have to be a super, like, windy. There's only a few people that's gonna be able to actually challenge that shot in real time. So that's his advantage. He offensive rebounds, right? He got that one-legged shot, step back, right? Like his attributes is there so he's gonna be, he offensive rebounds, right? He got that one-legged shot, step back, right?
Starting point is 01:42:05 Like his attributes is there, so he's gonna be good. I like what I see. Can you watch in that video, Ace Bailey? Oh yeah, that's all I got to go on. Cause I haven't watched the game. Not a Rutgers basketball thing. No, I didn't watch it in college, like I said, I didn't see him play before,
Starting point is 01:42:22 but just from the tail he moves fluidly, like the catching shoot in the corner to Gil's point is an impressive thing. Having coming in. Athleticism is there, from what you can tell. Good motor should be, because he's a fucking kid, 19. So motor should be there. Shouldn't have to teach him how to play hard. So yeah, from what I can tell you it's gonna be effective, but
Starting point is 01:42:47 let's see I It is summer league and So No, I just like the bounce back game from the first one And you know just seeing them for the really first time how big he is. I'm excited for him I mean summer league is a chance for you to be able to you know showcase your skills just seeing them for the really first time how big he is. I'm excited for him. I mean, Summer League gives a chance for you to be able to, you know, showcase your skills.
Starting point is 01:43:09 I mean, I know when I came into Summer League, you know, it was different for me because I didn't play the year before. So I took Summer League very important. And that was the reason why I was able to come in and start. But so, you know, these games in Summer League are going to be good for him just to be out there playing on NBA
Starting point is 01:43:25 Court so just do the best you can and just try to play well Because these are not the guys you're gonna be playing with when the season starts, so Play last year, okay, they playing right now. Okay. Well some guys Normally to your point. Yeah, absolutely. Normally don't you might have two guys on this summer team That's gonna make the rock. I'm going to your part. This is all in douche young. Okay. Okay Yeah, so he has a good chance to be able to play with his room. Yeah Who's the point? And I was ready to write me off. Y'all wanted to start fucking Dominique McGuire over me.
Starting point is 01:44:09 Why we pick Nick and Dominique? Because Dominique had a great game. And I had six points. Because I had them goddamn Gills on, you sent me those Gills arenas. I was like, god damn. I'm trying to win. I'm like, Gills sent me these.
Starting point is 01:44:21 You know what I mean? Hike, Gills sent me these. Six fucking points. I went back to me, put my Nikes on. Next game had about 27 on y'all, I was happy. But that shit means something, because the first game, first impressions, everything. Y'all like Dominic McGuire could do this, do that. You said y'all.
Starting point is 01:44:41 You didn't, but that. Yeah, because you think I watched the nigg I watched it. I was in Miami having fun. I don't know what the hell y'all did in Summer League. Put the gills on. Put the gills on. I was talking about y'all. I was in Miami having a good old time. You was in Orlando not Miami.
Starting point is 01:44:58 You stayed in Orlando. No, I was in Miami. Stop faking. You was right there next to, I was in Miami. Stop faking. You was right there next to me talking about Nick Wood. Summer League? Well, I don't even know where y'all was at Summer League. The fuck was on your team at Summer League?
Starting point is 01:45:12 I think I went all the way to Vegas or Orlando, wherever y'all were playing. Well, if you did go to Vegas, guaranteed. Motherfucker wasn't at the game. I know. I was wacky. And he took me to the game. I went to Summer League every summer.
Starting point is 01:45:26 I couldn't tell you who was out there, who came to training camp, the mother would come to training camp. I was in Denver for seven years. So I couldn't tell you who was at that motherfucker. He come to training camp, who the new rookie y'all draft? Well, I was nervous for that. I was nervous as fuck, my friend.
Starting point is 01:45:39 Not nervous because of playing, I was just more nervous. I had Scott Scowles, I had Kirk Thomas, I had Luke Ridenour, I had Michael Redd, I had Scott Scowles at I had Kirk Thomas at Luke Ridenour I had Michael Redd at a bunch of summer league. No, no, no, I'm talking about training camp Oh, we're talking about like going into training camp and then hearing about tour days Like you know, that's what tour days was first, you know to me So tape shooter tape so we had tape the first half and then you know The second half you come in for an hour a a tape again. But it was just different.
Starting point is 01:46:05 They wanted to mentally prepare. So the thing is with the tape and the second half, the second one they didn't want you to mentally check out. If you come in that motherfucking you bite and they tell you we getting taped, you like, aw shit, let me get stretched. Yeah, seriously. What y'all doing to say that?
Starting point is 01:46:17 You just be shooting. I mean same thing, it was non-contact but you're still going hard. Oh, ours was backwards. Like, ours was like conditioning and going through plays at the beginning. And then second half is play. With the second practice? Second practice was five on five.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Yeah. One on ones, all that. I think sometimes it would change, but still, I mean, at the end of the day, it didn't matter if it changed. You still taping. Oh yeah. Like, your ass is still taping. Oh, yeah. Like, your ass is still taping, your shirt's tucked in. I'm like, well, that five on O shit, four on O.
Starting point is 01:46:50 The one shit I hate is four on O. That's the dumb, I'm sorry. If you a coach, you think on four on O. Four on O is the dumbest defensive drill ever. It's dumb. Because it's four players that you're over-exaggerating. So you got your wing guy that's supposed to come and take the charge.
Starting point is 01:47:13 That's not his position. He don't do that. That's not what he actually does in a real game. So now you wonder why all your players are out of position over-helping because they've been doing four on four the whole time. So this wing guy is out of position over helping because you they've been doing for the whole time So you know this wing guy is all the way over here If you don't mean guys sitting here sit, that's not where he's gonna go. That's the middle guy. Okay
Starting point is 01:47:33 I mean, I mean I always hit it You got the guard listen when they would When this guard think about it when this guy all the way goes over help the guard at the top supposed to do one This guard, think about it, when this guy all the way goes over help, the guard at the top's supposed to do what? Veer all the way back down. That's not what he does in the real game when there's five. So he's working on these movements that he doesn't do in real life.
Starting point is 01:47:55 So what ends up happening is they start over helping, running, doing all this extra shit and you sitting here complaining, like, why is he? Two dudes closing out to me. Two dudes closing out to the same ball because I've been doing that shit in practice all week. I played this position now. I'm at this position now.
Starting point is 01:48:09 And I thought the ball would go in my head now. You got two motherfuckers running now. They threw the bitch four times. Because the four on 0, they don't have the five guys. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, who the fuck thought of playing four on 0? They ain't got no fucking quarterbacks out there.
Starting point is 01:48:20 You're like, no. That's the other guy. But wasn't the four guy like, shelf for like, you know, stick hands and. You come in, it's a ball over here. You don't come on the big. I hate it. I hate it. I thought it was old. I might screen you. The five man out there, I might screen you. We used to go four on four and then they'd drill, right?
Starting point is 01:48:36 And then they'd be like, put a fifth guy on here and then go live. And then it's like, whoa. That's what I'm saying. What the hell? The guy comes and screams. The guy comes and screams. then they, that drill, right? And then they'd be like, put a fifth guy on here and then go live. And then it's like, whoa. That's what I'm saying. Running, wait, remember. What the hell?
Starting point is 01:48:48 The guy comes to the street. The further guy gotta come to the hell. Okay, so like if we're playing defense, these two dudes at the top, we're the back line. Shell Drew. And he got the ball. Now let's say, let's say it goes swing, swing, you go to the corner, right?
Starting point is 01:49:01 Wait, wait, my bad. So you swing to... You swing to the guard. I'm over here. Now, I'm the middle man. Like that, right? Wait, wait my bad. So you swing to the guard. I'm the middle man. You denying and then it goes to the corner. You go to the corner guy. Now I supposed to go help. No, no, no, because it's three seconds. I gotta be on the other side. Yeah, so I gotta be on the other side. Now, he gotta clear himself. Now, if my sinner's here, I'll never touch the middle. That's true. But you're touching somebody though, don't you think? You can clear yourself like that.
Starting point is 01:49:34 No, no, so I'm sitting here, now my middle guy is the one over there. The sinner's on this side, you behind me. Yeah, you go there, and I'm here, so I'm... But if there's no sinner, now I pretend to be go right here. The shoulder hair used to be weak side eye, all the weak side eye. So it's conditioning me to be the center in the center. Being the bottom man in the eye, you don't, that's not your natural position.
Starting point is 01:49:54 For sure, for sure. That's what I said, so you do the four on four and it kind of throws everything off. Because there is a fifth man out there. And they don't tell you that, they be yelling, get your ass over there. Take the charge! Take the charge!
Starting point is 01:50:08 Like you want me to go to an empty spot. Like we doing a drill right there. There's no fucking man there. If he driving, I think I can get there. That's how you, yeah. Like that's just like, there's no man there. That's the shit James Harden be doing. That's why his man get back door.
Starting point is 01:50:22 The play during the late in the season when James in box out. Yeah, that's why he's so locked in to the floor. he's the plate doing the ladies season with James in box But you can see it About it real time. I'm like coaches put five just do five man. Like just five so everyone knows exactly where they're going Another shit I was that you read any article. I was a defensive guy in high school. I was the defensive sniper in college. I started off the beginning of my season as a defensive player.
Starting point is 01:50:51 That offensive check kicked in. The offensive check kicked in. It just let me know. Don't be Bruce Boyd. Yeah, absolutely. So Brandon made up a good point, right? So four on four shell drill is good for college basketball because you have principles and you can stick a guy
Starting point is 01:51:10 in the middle of the fucking paint. He ain't gotta move. Yes. Right? There's no D3 in college. Yep. To Brandon's point, you can put a motherfucker right in the middle.
Starting point is 01:51:19 Them four guys on the perimeter can do that drill. Yep. And in college, you are teaching guys how to close out. You're teaching guys how to stay on the perimeter can do that drill. Yep. And in college, you are teaching guys how to close out. You're teaching guys how to stay on the top side. And the ball move, they move. These are teaching drills that you start, that you should be doing in fucking high school, in middle school, when you're teaching fundamentals
Starting point is 01:51:39 of the game of basketball. It starts way before college. College, they hone in on these things and you should be perfecting them by then if you plan on being a pro. But if not, the fundamentals of shell drill starts way before anything that we're talking about right now. Trust me. And that's what it's, because shell drill, if the ball's here, you have to be at the nail. Zone two. So it's basically playing. So the way the old school shit,
Starting point is 01:52:08 see I'm an old fucking basketball term. To teach kids in certain situations the way they used to do it, they would tie a fucking string around all y'all foot and one move, we all move or we gonna fall. It's just when you teach a certain, when you like, we play in a zone, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:28 And the only way for me to get you to move, like for Brandon to move when you move, he might be over this motherfucker like this. Mm-hmm. Thinking about fucking lunch or something. High school. Right? But you move, he gotta do what? He fucked up, he had to sit on the, right?
Starting point is 01:52:42 Yeah, I gotta move, yeah. I put it on your outside foot. Put it on his, he gotta do what? He f**ked up, he had to sit on the wall. Right? Yeah, I gotta move, yeah. I put it on your outside foot. He move, I gotta move. He gonna trip if he don't. So it's little things like that, man. You gotta teach people how to do things. The schedule was all about closing out, putting your stick hand, forcing them this way, the angle.
Starting point is 01:53:02 It was good for all that. He made me have to sit on the wall after. But that stuff is definitely taught, like you said, that stuff should be taught at 13, 14. And before that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah, 11, 12, yeah. It teaches fundamentals, man. But yeah, nigga, your wall sits are essential. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:53:17 No, I don't like that on them, they don't do that on defense, though. Huh? Yeah, you really locked into that, because you know I'm not asking. No, it's not about that, no, no. No, no, no. No, you talk about. that It's not about that. No On the court in Arizona like the niggas up any house any house scores score 50 and 60
Starting point is 01:53:33 He had to see me the next time Locked down seven points the first time we played him Okay, so eight eight points first time then seven locked down the Mo Peterson Talk down talk your stick no then in the nba had the lockdown to get on the court because obviously they couldn't defense talk your but what i'm saying is it's okay though when the check was when the check was coming boy they was there was rewarding offense there's a all right all defense uh bruce you're gonna uh Yes. Bruce, you're going to, we're going to six years, 12 million.
Starting point is 01:54:07 There you go. Offense. Yeah, six years, 72 million. Six years, 12 million is fake. Hey, hey, so tell me about the 72 again. Yeah. Six years, 20 million is fake. Boy, I started thinking. Hey, man, I'm, oh, hey, I ain't trying to get in foul trouble, man. 72
Starting point is 01:54:37 20 points get you 65 stop in the play stop in the player from 65 get you 12 Well, I Learned quick work smarter not harder. Who harder. Who's a great defensive player? Yeah. Stop, man. No, no, I'm just saying. Where? Right now. Where right now in the league?
Starting point is 01:54:50 They get paid. They get paid. Marcus Mark? No, Jaylen Daniels. Yeah, Jaylen Daniels. Yeah. Jaylen Daniels. Dillon Brooks.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Dillon Brooks. Hard, don't play. What? No D, huh? Draymond. Draymond. Draymond. Draymond.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Draymond. Who? James Harden.mon. Dreymon. Dreymon. Dreymon. Dreymon. Who? James Harden. Yeah. Dreymon. The good guy from USC. Hey, hey, hey, listen, listen, listen.
Starting point is 01:55:12 The Thompson twins? Every moment. What you talking about at this point is like, guys that score more make more. Every day, hey, them fans is coming to see that bowl. And you can do both. And if you can do both, you gonna make it. Yeah, yeah, you do both, yeah. Both, you get paid for both, but you can do both you're gonna make it you do both you both you get paid for both but you do one you gonna
Starting point is 01:55:28 get paid like you do both I don't play you do the office of what you're gonna get right you see you see the defense I got it to that said the fuck out you that's what I'm talking about and man what am I feeling like we have to move through the middle of life
Starting point is 01:55:54 I'm like that drunk uncle man come on can you do not give guy anymore middle of life cause he gonna need to drink cause there's is he taking that energy gun what's that gun what No, he gonna have to drink about four bottles. The energy gun? What's that gun?
Starting point is 01:56:06 What's that niggas be taking that? Oh, that nitro. Yeah, yeah. Nitro, whatever it is. That shit nasty. You taking something. That shit nasty. Hell no.
Starting point is 01:56:13 I had just been drinking for a week straight. I ain't even got a one. No alcohol. Oh man, 4th of July. Room temperature, mother of like, what's happening? Yeah, I got an exclusive, an extensive agave lesson with the bartender at the Four Seasons. Shout out to Edgar, man.
Starting point is 01:56:31 He was, yeah, we sat down here with him. You went to the Four Seasons? Yeah, sat down at the Daily with him and got a- I said Daily. Shout out to Edgar. Yeah, an exclusive. Edgar. Edgar.
Starting point is 01:56:41 Edgar. Got to taste a lot of different tequilas for free. Ain't that your little name? I know his tip was nice. Yeah, you know it. Just charge it. It's got to taste a lot of different tequilas for free. I know his tip was nice. You know what just charges. They don't even charge. I just tip. Yeah, I tried every four seasons a fine hotel. Reposado they had a play to him to tell people middle name.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Well, you talk about someone to yesterday on the show. We talked about one-on-one. So at the end of yesterday show Swaggy responded to Mike Beasley's one-on-one challenge for one million dollars. Well Beasley saw the clip. Obviously a big fan of Gills Reader presented by 100Dollars. He saw the clip and he responded today with this video. Hey, you give me that SGH? SGH? I made a million dollars. Hey, hey, just go swipe through that first clip.
Starting point is 01:57:27 Like when I talk, I talk to your eyes, whether it's the camera or it's you in person. I don't go tell my friends what I would have said to you. You understand what I'm talking about, Nick? Come on, throw the money up, bro. You understand? I just don't like how you guys pretend to be my friends. You understand? Then, right, I know we will friends and just his basketball
Starting point is 01:57:45 You know look I love you, but don't make me call your barber to line it up understand Don't make him call your barber to line it up JC. No not that he's done my he just talked about oh, yeah And worry about it. I'll JC to tell us what you worry about none of that Shit man stop. I'm just do stop. Did you see me yesterday? Where? I was hoopin' last night, player of the game. Give me two months. Two months.
Starting point is 01:58:14 And I'm taking the vitamin shit from Super Health, what is it called? I got my BC parlor. I'm going to go over. Mike, we don't work on parlor. You really don't believe in me. I got my BC Paula Yeah, we got believe in me that's what's killing me more just like the people they believe you play defense You ain't believing in me Nick for the last two hours. This is all you've been doing Nick We're we are we are create. We are content
Starting point is 01:58:46 We are content creators. This is all he been doing for the last two months. That nigga is a hooper. I played last night. We are content creators now. All he does is play basketball. I don't give a fuck. All he does. I don't give a fuck. Everybody's a suspect. Like what he say, I don't worry about getting out of hand.
Starting point is 01:58:58 I ain't worry about getting out of hand. Everybody's a suspect. You talking about you need two months to get in shape. Fucking last five years. You just gonna have to wait two months if he want to get it. He been in shape for the last five years. He just gonna have to wait two months if he wanna see me. I'm the real king of this one on one shit. What's my name and Drew Lee? I am legend.
Starting point is 01:59:15 So what that mean? One on one, I'm the legend. If he wanna see me, he gotta wait two months. And that's my dog. What are we doing on the show? Love Bees. I don't remember. Did Will Smith die in that movie? He did.
Starting point is 01:59:30 I don't know how they did. There was an alternate ending though. Oh, he did. He did die in that movie. Oh, okay. In the main movie, he did. Yeah. He took the grenade.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Yeah, I thought that was the cure. But not before finding the cure. He went out there to save his dog. That's what I'm saving my dog right here. This is the dog. He's the dog. But was unable to save Sam. No, no, no, no. Was unable to save his dog. No, what I'm saving my dog right here. This is the dog. He's the dog. But unable to save Sam.
Starting point is 01:59:46 No, no, no. Unable to save his dog. I already tep down. Because I'm believing. You can believe me. I already tep down. I know my. The dog ran out there because he didn't believe me.
Starting point is 01:59:53 He didn't believe me. I played backyard basketball. I lost to a nigga in Forestville. $200, $300. Go ahead. Right? I'm a fan. It should be you competed, though.
Starting point is 02:00:02 That's the most important thing. You going to give me some of the million? Yeah. 200? Give me 200. That's the most important thing you're gonna give some Amelia. Yes, actually 200 Let's talk about it Brother, you gonna work your way. Thank you Look I just called the drug dealer right now. We're gonna have you shot up boy We ready we ready for you Last even before I
Starting point is 02:00:28 Was not discussed Hey, how much you gonna give me Wait for another minute 200-200. Yes. No 200 200? 200? Yeah, shit. No, 200 is my pay. It's a million dollars to pay. 200, I hype it up. I'm Don King right here.
Starting point is 02:00:50 I get two from you. Two from you. Yeah, we good. Yeah, shit, I'd rather you be Don King. Lock it up. Tell him, lock it up. We ain't got no problem. Because I don't.
Starting point is 02:00:57 In two months. Because, and then we can pick the refs? Man, we ain't losing to a nigga with red hair. Huh? What? Red, he got red facial hair. Huh? Red? He got red facial hair. I got a 202 matchup coming up. We can't play for locker.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Oh, he didn't play for Miami. Man, we good. Mr. B, you have 202 coming? I think I'm going to lose to a Boston. You said you have a 202 matchup coming up? I have a 202 matchup coming up at Rucker Park soon. Are we invited? month get somebody? Is the gilded river crew barely wait, who's your who's your second player? Yeah, I was a girl
Starting point is 02:01:34 Are you playing with man? See he's scared of land. See I'm not scared of being Serious man, why you saying I'm a concert career right who is that you are playboy car he's walking around does he have a belt on no I'm just saying don't is this a very high profile player but the wall you see this this you know tiny jerk McDonald's is sponsoring it we're not behind the scenes. He's playing very dark. Girl, man. Crazy. In Harlem. Oh, he's got to be whole case. You think I'm going to lose to a Bino though?
Starting point is 02:02:12 Come on, y'all. What beef we have? First of all, the girl that's playing is nice and a professional. Hey, Nick. I hear you're confident. Wait, are you playing against girls? You better have that conversation with your knee. That's all. I hear you. I'm your confidence. Wait, are you playing against girls? You better have that conversation with your knee. That's all.
Starting point is 02:02:26 I hear you. I'm with you. I don't need no liquor, because I'm playing. But you need to have that conversation with your knee. You're too much from now. He having to come up with that paycheck. He's like, hey, this is where I sit. Anybody. I'm like, this nigga real uber.
Starting point is 02:02:38 Yeah, absolutely. Listen, I'm going to put you through this. All my need to do is get me there. I'll get you there. Wait, just get you to the... I'm not worried about you playing against the basketball. Who are you playing against? Who's your teammate? Playing against...
Starting point is 02:02:56 Why do you keep doing this to yourself? I'm a content creator. Okay, I get it. What's going on? Is you and who versus who and who? It's at Rucker Park, that's all I know. Are we invited, Mr. B? The white suit, the girl shooter. No.
Starting point is 02:03:12 You and Jenna versus who? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is a real thing. Like these are like some elite cast. I just got to find out who else I'm playing. I heard the name, but I don't know for sure. So you don't want to give false information. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:27 But it is happening. No, it's not. No. Is you in a school group with a girl and a boy versus? What's the other guy? You know the other guy? Or you can't give it out? I heard it could be Kimball Walker.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Oh, it can't be him. His knees don't work. That's why he couldn't play in the big league three. But I just know that it's at Rucker Park Rucker Park so I just know that's outside. Well you should walk. Where's Rucker Park at? You should want to play against him. You should want to play against him. You kill him. Oh man just. Where's Parker? It's gonna be him man. That man Kingin' man. Wait hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 02:04:07 Him and Jawanah man. Is it outside? Him and Jawanah man. This niggas playing coed basketball. They paying more than what y'all are getting paid just to play for free. Well a dollar would be. A dollar would be better yeah. They paying more than what they, I know it I'm getting paid just to go out there more than what I'm paying just to pay mr.
Starting point is 02:04:28 Be a businessman in addition to content creator of course, they are fine clothing a tough crowd Tough crowd University as well Dancing with the stars. Yes, that's what it is Dancing with the stars. Yes, that's what it is. Dancing with the stars. Dancing with the stars for basketball players. They ain't just, hey, you know, I'm gonna hook you up with a content creator, man.
Starting point is 02:04:50 Y'all go out here and play the two on two. Niggas gonna be walking by that like, what's that? Oh, two niggas killing themselves. That's good. That paycheck. No, Swaggy, no, don't lean any farther. Don't lean any farther, Swag. Bring it back in. Bring it back. We just got
Starting point is 02:05:08 We just got new Was crazy What a two-on-two game on Battleboy I'm in my lane You got a play me first. It is Tuesday. I hit play against. Why? Hell no.
Starting point is 02:05:34 Like Julian Newman that you said? Julian Newman man come on. You know what they paying to come do that? Look at you. What's wrong with you? You know what they're paying to come do that? Oh, man. Lookie. What's wrong with you? No more Miller Lite on the set. Don't let that, man. We're ex-players, man.
Starting point is 02:05:53 We can't be doing this, man. We gotta play against ex-players, man. We can't be... I am playing against ex-players. I am playing against an ex-NBA player. Nah, I'm just saying, you ever seen you seen this with the stars man quality television I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah!
Starting point is 02:06:22 I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah!
Starting point is 02:06:30 I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah!
Starting point is 02:06:38 I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like, ah! I'm like got to be out there just, I don't know. Aw man, this is where our legacy's going.
Starting point is 02:06:48 Don't listen to them. That did pop-locking for the crowd. So playing Kimball Walker is not good? No, it's good, man. The alley one, man. Two NBA players, cool, man. Two NBA players and then it's two WNBA players. Nah, give a ho for Starland.
Starting point is 02:07:04 Why you didn't say that? I said they're all professionals that are playing. NBA players and then it's to W NBA players There I said they're all professionals that are playing there there too There's some no from the walk you miss the walk in there to get the beer you may fuck He acted like a nigga at the Dodgers game It's the sixth in Say it was a WP he just made it like it was a constant No, I said I am but I said that event is walking like this is like WMD and NBA Then he came back You see no
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Starting point is 02:08:33 Did Julie do when I play against that Nick? Yeah, man, I wanted to swing with that's my little dude Yeah, you know they boxed at it man Listen that cradle eight took me and Nick out there. Man, listen, I've been putting that whole shit. Man, give me the ball. Yeah, I see that, I see that, man. Extremely childish. Let's move on to some actual basketball before we close out this show for today.
Starting point is 02:08:55 So 20-year NBA veteran, 12-time All-Star Chris Paul, still a free agent in search of a deal with a new team. So an interview with Jamel Hill, CP3 spoke on how much longer he intends to play No, you are playing at a high level that you're in the twilight of your NBA career. Yeah, so How much longer do you intend to play? At the most a year, you know, I just finished my 20th season, which is a blessing in itself At the most a year finishes, he finishes 20th season, that is a blessing. So he'll be 40 years old next season. Last season he started all 82 games for the Spurs, averaged nine points and seven assists per game. So if this is really it for the Point God, what team do you want to see CP3 finish his career
Starting point is 02:09:42 with? Whatever one he wants to do. But a boat of smoke, Milwaukee Bucks and I'm buying a Chris Paul jersey. You want CP3 to end his illustrious NBA career in the city of Milwaukee. That fits. Got a good chance of going out with it. That fits.
Starting point is 02:10:00 Just disappear, just go to Milwaukee and disappear. Huh? Yeah, you want it. Even asking for a lot. No, you back Jello cooking. We don't know doing we can use a point guard down to stretch. Like you said, well, you haven't said they haven't someone yet, huh?
Starting point is 02:10:26 I'm just throwing it out. Like it's a good team for him, but I think. Do you think that that. Wherever he wants to go. Wherever he wants to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. At 40 years old, you have to be like, in that offense in Milwaukee.
Starting point is 02:10:40 Do we get a fair word? We don't. Like that, just can, he don't't you don't have to be in that often You could just run the show run the show just don't turn the ball over Which he won't late in the game get a good quality shot every time so what you're gonna get with him But my opinion where should he wherever he wants to? So we're reports obviously you got a son in high school that he wanted to be closer to LA In this career on that side.
Starting point is 02:11:06 So Clippers been something else. He said LA, he didn't say closer. He said Los Angeles. Yeah, but I think the sons of Clippers, sons of Clippers were both mentioned as potential options. Both bad destinations. Really?
Starting point is 02:11:17 What are you gonna do for the Clippers? That's it. They don't need to play slower. Do he get a fair world tour with the Clippers? Wherever he goes, he deserves it. He gonna get the fair world. I mean, wherever he goes. He deserves it. And where he plays, I mean, yeah, I'm sure wherever you mean,
Starting point is 02:11:36 if this is last year, I mean, it's more about just let him go and just go and join his last year. What could he win that though? Not to put yourself in somebody else's shoes, but if you're in CB3 shoes, are you prioritizing trying to go out on top of the ring or the place I can play the most? If there's an opportunity to be in that situation to join a young Oklahoma City or someone that's a favorite, then you put yourself in that situation, absolutely, if you're Chris Paul. Somewhere like, yeah, but... Ooh, the Rock. Oh, no, no, thank God.
Starting point is 02:12:13 Okay, how about... Nah. How about I say... Yes? You can't play for the Rockies, though. It's really about you as a person. Like... Are you gonna...
Starting point is 02:12:24 Are you chasing a ring to say you got one? Is that gonna fulfill you? Is that gonna change how you view yourself? Because, you know, we all want to be on top when we win one, right? Especially if he was, you know, one of those dudes. So him sitting, sitting on the end of a bench, being a backup, right? Not really that guy winning it. Does it say, like is he gonna cherish this as a champ? Right? You know, it's just, that's internal.
Starting point is 02:12:53 Cause I talk to someone's like, I'd rather give this ring back just to play one more year. So you know what I mean? So it all depends on who you are as a player. So with, I just, just say if it was Oklahoma City, I think he could be a solid backup point guard. Yeah. Just somewhere like that right where he's not expected to be available like he played all 82 average 9 and 7 right? Played all 82 he's available. Yeah. So you don't need the 12 13 assists Chris Paul you don't
Starting point is 02:13:22 need that guy. You don't need the 19 and 12 20 and 12, you don't need that guy. You don't need the 19 and 12, 20 and 12 guy. You don't need that from him. You just need solid. Orlando? Who's somebody that did that? You said 7 and 9? Great, great. Excellent.
Starting point is 02:13:35 Who said 7 and 9? Excellent. Orlando. He had 9 and 7. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So excellent. Orlando, excellent fit. Teach them young guys how to absolutely,
Starting point is 02:13:46 somewhere like that. Do you want to go out teaching or do you want to go out winning? Both. You can do both. And that's the way you can do both. That's the way you can do both. They was playing big time minutes though with Dallas. He was playing big time minutes but he was still starting. He was still starting.
Starting point is 02:14:02 He still started those games. I mean the fact that he played 82 games last year. But he still started. He still started those games. I mean, the fact that he played 82 games last year. At 39, that helps. I think a situation of you trying to. Denver. Yes. I was going to say.
Starting point is 02:14:14 The Nuggets. Anywhere you know what they have, what the base is already, who they stars, who they go to guys are, you already have that, right? You know that already. So, being in a situation where I can't even just. For the Lakers, who's our backup? I mean, backup for us would be good.
Starting point is 02:14:31 Yeah, that's what I'm saying, who's our backup? Can't even discuss that. It's Bronnie, that's it. I know, but how we played, like you. Disgusting. Disgusting, in Los Angeles. Ours is not really. Oh, mentor Bronnie.
Starting point is 02:14:42 No, ours is not really good basketball right now. Looking out for this man's legacy. Yeah. Mentor Bronny. Trying to help this man out here. But like, if he wanted to be here, he would have been inside. He's not trying to take a step or step backwards. Step forward for the game in the Los Angeles community.
Starting point is 02:14:55 Or it's nothing. It was supposed to be in the Labor coat right now. It's an offense. But I'm saying, maybe just want to do that again. They vetoed that vision now. That was the end of this now.ed that vision. That was then. That's disgusting. I like Denver.
Starting point is 02:15:07 I like somewhere where he can win. I'd like Orlando. Of the teams that we've named, I like Milwaukee and Orlando best. A backup role at Oklahoma City would suit him. The way they play, Jalen is your feature. Like you doing that, the other guys getting shots, Isaiah, Joe Wiggins, he out there with them guys,
Starting point is 02:15:25 Caruso defense, so you put him in that situation where the spot man, he ain't got to play, he available. You can play Shea off the ball if you need to. Situations like that where if you really, if it's about winning and you want to go get a win, put your best self in the best situation. But to your point, internally, what is important? Do I want to go out playing a lot?
Starting point is 02:15:47 Or enjoying his life? Enjoying his life but also being able to play, right? I think you can knock out both in my opinion in one spot. And it ain't fucking for you. That's a lot of spots that I need him on. A lot of spots that I can use him. No, I mean like there's some teams that he can go to and have a chance of winning
Starting point is 02:16:08 Shit right now that caries out. That's what I said the whole Texas stuff was spurs. I know but Right now the caria this more look like this seems more like family moving I dig it to the point where it's like I want to be you want to go home I my kids can see me 41 games. Clippers? You know what I mean? So it seems like Clippers, Lakers. You got a son hooping in high school obviously.
Starting point is 02:16:30 As I said, it's like young fellas getting into his own and spending one whole year away from like, it just seems like he might be Clippers. Is he getting a farewell tour? Yeah. He's getting a farewell tour? The Clippers is now... A farewell tour? If it's the Clippers.
Starting point is 02:16:44 Only if it's the Clippers is Clippers only if you're a Clippers farewell. Yeah, like everybody in the league is gonna like Like like what Kobe got like that's a fair world tour. Oh, what we were like Kobe got A fair world tour is there there every team. You really got one. I'm just saying Well tourists every team taken Before the game they're acknowledging you before the game like you would get last year Boom boom, so is he gonna get that from from 29 teams? I think he should he the best point guard of the generation Yeah, Reggie Miller got one. I mean, I'm just asking I think so my next question. What's Chris Paul's lasting legacy? Can you say best point guard of this generation?
Starting point is 02:17:21 Over the last 20 years in his 20 year career stab himself. Yeah No, I'm not him getting killed by Jordan like absolutely of this generation. Over the last 20 years? In his 20 year career, he established himself in that period. Yeah, he's the hardest target to him getting killed by Jordan. Absolutely. He ain't even, name me one better. Steph Curry? The persona is different. Steph Curry's better, yeah, point guard, right?
Starting point is 02:17:36 What? We're not doing that, Brandon. We're not gonna go semantics with you, man. Steph Curry's not a point guard. I know they got one next to his name, but he's not a point guard, dog. So what is he going into as a Hall of Fame? He can go in as one, like I said, what they got next to his name, but he's not a point guard, dog. So what is he going into as a holo- He can go in as one, like I said,
Starting point is 02:17:45 what they got next to his name, I'ma give you that. But if you watching the game of basketball, it's not the same, we talking about the point guard. Point guard, the one that passed the ball to motherfuckers. So he's magic. The motherfucker that passed the ball to people, him. We ain't talking about people that passed him the ball. You talking about Magic Stockton, Steve Nash.
Starting point is 02:18:06 I hear you, but we're not gonna do that. Mark Jackson. We're not gonna do that. You know that group. It's different. We're not gonna do that. I hear you, yes. The best passing point guard? The original name. Not the traditional. If you watch the game of basketball, you wouldn't, if Steph Curry's out there,
Starting point is 02:18:25 you're gonna think he's a shooting guard. Like, without the announcement, at point guard, if you watch the game, you're gonna be like, Chris Paul said shoot that bitch too though. Yeah, but you know, tennis is like, who said, who? The old school. Who said Chris Paul?
Starting point is 02:18:40 That's why I always say it's unfair, like. Why you think him and James Harden couldn't co-exist? Why you think that shit was the problem? Two fucking point guards. James Harden goes down as a point guard. That's not the James Harden goes down as a point guard. That's my thing. But hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 02:18:57 That Houston team though. If Chris Paul leg don't go out, you don't think they beat the Warriors Warriors They was up to gave us Chris Paul set out. What was that game six? I like swagger you were there you would do you feel like I'm just saying like the basketball Just walk out there and just go If all just walk out there and just go All guys said if you want to keep shooting we're gonna keep the lady on this bitch What game was that?
Starting point is 02:19:35 Chris was out game six game seven Was up three two exactly okay if he just walk out there foot if you give me the Tyrese Hallenberg But that that guy got him to max though. That guy that's 14-15. What year is that? That guy got him to max after that. Yeah. What year is that? I hear you. 17-18. As much as like people. That guy got him to max. Yeah of my. Hold on hold on. I think I know. I think the side still do what he do. Like I hear you absolutely like Steph is yes. Like I hate you absolutely like Steph is yes No, I was looking for who's on it who was on this this this this this team That's that that was that when they missed like how many in a row? What is that it missed 27 in a row and then it was a whole bunch of fouls that actually happened in that run that continued it. There was one where there was an and one they called it off and then there was one where
Starting point is 02:20:31 he got fouled. They said nah. There was a whole bunch of that and then I had to look at what refs was on there. I wanted to see what refs was on that. No, I'm talking about James Harden there. They missed 27 free throws in a row. Who Paul didn't play that game. No, I'm talking about James Harden then. They missed 27 free throws in a row. Who was the ref on that game? 7-44 in the game.
Starting point is 02:20:49 They got threes. No, they were shooting threes, but there was some where James Harden got hit. They didn't call it. And it was one where he got hit and made it and they called it off. Had nothing. They take it out of bounds.
Starting point is 02:21:00 Who was refing? Who you think? Man, that had to be. There's only one ref that's gonna be. That had to do with Foster right there. I'm sorry. I was there. If you watch it, you'll see it. If you pull it up, you'll see like, oh, that's a foul. That's why they're just... Nah, they was missing wide open shit too. That's something. They would have paid.
Starting point is 02:21:17 No, but there was something that would have broke that streak up and kept the game. You let Trevor and him shoot 10 threes in a row. Yeah, you said Chris Paul would have a fair world tour, right? So, Bron would have one. Steph would have one. Do you think that Katie won? Yes. No, no, no, I'm just asking.
Starting point is 02:21:34 So, I mean, this is an era where we're seeing more fair world tours than anything. Because there's more generational players. Okay. And guys are no longer... Guys getting to dictate their terms now. Before other guys, the phone just stopped ringing. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 02:21:52 The phone just stopped ringing for a lot of guys who we look at as that, right? Other guys, they getting to dictate, okay, this is going to be my last year. This is my last. So the fans in the building get the chance to give you one. Right. No, no. Other guys still hold on, make things like, that phone the fans in the building get the chance to give you one. See, right, no, no. Other guys still hold on and make things like, that phone's still gonna ring over the summer. Did D-Way have this?
Starting point is 02:22:10 I don't know if D-Way got one. No, no, no. Because he didn't know that was gonna wait for us. He didn't get to dictate his own terms. Yeah, yeah, so what he's saying is- Nello didn't either. He didn't get to dictate. Nello was waiting on the phone call.
Starting point is 02:22:18 Yes, yes, yes, so what he's saying is- Vince got- No, COVID happened. Here's today, kids. Yo, this is my last year coming up. But Vince- Like how Chris Paul just said, he got asked a Yo, this is my last year coming up. But Vince, like Chris Paul said, he got asked a question. This is my last year. And he left it open to a certain degree.
Starting point is 02:22:32 But more like this is going to be his last year, right? So he can just come out and say, no, this is my last year playing. So 2019 will acknowledge all these players. Fear of Paul Pierce? They don't like you like that? No, no, that's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:43 Fear of Paul Pierce? Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, Dre Monz said that. But that's what I's fine. Yeah. They don't like you like that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean, Dre Monz said that. But that's what I'm saying. Carmelo, remember Carmelo, he didn't get to go out on his own terms. D-Way didn't get to go out on his own terms. Like, Bosch. Like, we think that would be good.
Starting point is 02:22:54 Like, Kevin Garnett. No. That's what we think. For sure, for sure. But, because those guys said this is my last year. I like that though, you said they have a chance to dictate. Most people don't think it's their last year. What was your, do you remember your last bucket?
Starting point is 02:23:04 Do you remember your last bucket? Do you remember your last bucket remember your last bucket then I'm saying like people like KG and Paul I can add a Brandy Denny's fans Veteran told me It was he was like I said Dean Garrett. He was like He's like we always remember our first bucket. None of us remember our last one because we never know that's our last time Yeah, he said so be mindful of understanding where your last bucket is gonna go. That's why I asked you because that's real Most of the time we were expecting their phone or we don't think that their phone gonna ever stop ringing Yeah, right and then we do, we not prepared for it. So the mother do is great for them that they've played this long and
Starting point is 02:23:48 they can do the dirt, the Tim Donk, like knowing that this is their last year and being able to get those flowers in real time. Because this is deserved, man, from the game, from the fans, what they've given to the game, blood, sweat, and tears, family time, sacrifices, all of those things. So to be able to dictate that is excellent for them. But the favorite tour is like when they go and give them the ball and all that. Yeah, uh-huh. Yeah, before the game, after the game. That's what I'm saying. It's 2019.
Starting point is 02:24:19 I don't know. Yes. That's what I'm saying. Is 2019 going to say, yo, listen, you are this important to the game of basketball and we appreciate what you did for the game. From the players association stuff Chris Paul did, like everything, I think so. Okay. I'll have rules I gotta put in.
Starting point is 02:24:32 That's fine, that's fine. I, like, that's just my personal opinion. Like, is every team gonna do it? Nah, probably not, but I'm saying, I don't know. You can't be the team that don't do it. It's their discretion whether they want to or not, right? So. I think if they started off with that, his last game, whatever arena, I don't know. You can't beat a team that don't do it. It's their discretion whether they want to or not. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 02:24:45 I think if they started off with that, his last game, whatever arena, the first team starts it off with a ceremony for everybody. Everybody go online. They tell you, like so when Kobe did his first, did he know for sure that every team was gonna give him, like you know what I'm saying? He didn't know that.
Starting point is 02:24:59 It was my last year. It was my last year. I'm not saying everybody knew it. I'm saying but through the NBA, like you know, through the NBA. Like Jordan, this is for my fans. I'm letting my fans, as the NBA, like, you know, through the NBA. Like, Jordan, this is for my fans. I'm letting my fans, Kobe Bryant, I'm letting my fans know this is my... Jordan had a fair world tour because they didn't know he was going to fucking just retire,
Starting point is 02:25:12 retire. You know what I'm saying? Okay. So for the mother news, like, they get to, like, this is, like, for my, like, LeBron, the core fan. This is, I'm letting my fans know this is going to be y'all last year seeing me. Chris Paul get to tell his friends fans This would be our last and a lot of arenas a lot of cities that he's played that there's yes
Starting point is 02:25:42 I like the criteria would you say though. You can dictate now. So I can tell you that, you know what I'm saying, boom, boom, boom, it prepares. So I like that. Because a lot of players, yeah. Yeah, no, we think that phone go comfortable. And then in the summer like, yeah. Working out like a motherfucker when it don't.
Starting point is 02:25:55 Yeah. He said, yeah. It was some players that said this was their last year that didn't get it. Who? We said it, like the KG and Paul O'Piers. KG didn't say it was his last year. Ain't that why he's right? Well, Paul Pierce. He went back to Minnesota. He did say that was his
Starting point is 02:26:12 last year. That was in a mentorship role. Did he say that was his last year? I don't know. I don't have no idea. I honestly don't remember. I know Paul Pierce did, but we're not watching to see what Paul Pierce is getting every road trip. if Paul Pierce would have did that in Boston Mmm. Mmm. It's a different story. He goes back to Boston and say this is my farewell tour. It's a different feeling Then you doing that in whatever uniform it was in Like I said different that's disgusting. No people was cheering Paul and Paul But I'm saying but imagine him going back to Boston putting that 34 back on and retiring. You know what you're going to do. Cause it's going up in the Raptors.
Starting point is 02:26:50 Yeah, it's like Kobe's. It's going up in the Raptors. That's why you gotta make co-clippers. That's why you gotta come back to the Clippers then. KG's last season, same as Kobe's 2015-16. The difference being, he played 38 games on the average, three points per game. But you're talking about guys like KD, Steph, but these guys seem like they're gonna go out like you look at Lebron specifically when he goes out he's gonna be averaging 28 games still gonna be playing heavy minutes absolutely
Starting point is 02:27:15 I feel respected to win and everything so all right so out of those people with the new generation right the way that is going right now who do you see else having the fair world tour? You see Jokic, you see Giannis. If they stay put in their respective cities, where they finish their career. Giannis finishes his career as a Milwaukee buck. If Nikola finishes his career as a Denver Nugget,
Starting point is 02:27:44 there's a great chance. Okay Win another one get another MVP or two It's it's a great place to be right now. Yon is back to Nicole. It three They have the criteria now for it But to add on to it would only help there a farewell to a case like They're on they're on the path though. Yeah, I think so. I mean, everyone's on-
Starting point is 02:28:07 Stay where you are. Okay. Everyone's on the path, but- No, no. Yeah, everyone's on the path because if you're in the league 15, 20 years, you're on a path. But what happens is,
Starting point is 02:28:17 most of the people who get farewell tours is the people who played in that city the whole time. Yeah, that's what I, that's- Right? So what ends up happening is- No, no, no. Wait, wait, hold on. A good one, a good one? If Lebron says- I Yeah, that's what I... Right? So what ends up happening is... Wait, wait, wait, hold on. A good one, a good one. But he's an icon.
Starting point is 02:28:29 It has to be a full world tour? We didn't know it was the last year. In Miami? We're talking about... Everybody's in a position. No, they're not. This is what I'm saying. If you're staying on the same team, right? I know when you're done. Right? We have mutual respect. So if you're going to say same team, right? I know when you're done
Starting point is 02:28:49 Right. We have mutual respect. So if you're gonna say this is your last year I'm a sign you back for you to do this if you're gone and you're somewhere else now the Pre-agency dictates when you're gonna be back So if you're going in there thinking you're about to do your last year and no one to picks you up it in your Yeah, I know farewell. Sorry and there sorry and in some situations well it is a farewell just not the one you might not the one you want some guys go back and so this way go I think somebody they will go sign with the team just to retire as under that team yeah right so that's for the legacy they retired as a paw appears yeah as a boss and Celt I retired as a Boston Celtic.
Starting point is 02:29:25 They signed you for a contract, they should work for a dollar, a penny, whatever it is. I retire as a Los Angeles Laker, right? Cool, that meant something to me. They drafted me so I want to retire as that. I had my most success in this uniform, I want to retire as that. I think that's what Paul should have did. KG's last stop was Minnesota. I retired as a Minnesota Timberwood. That's where it started at for me. Didn't they do something like that? Scottie Pippen should have went back to Chicago.
Starting point is 02:29:54 OK. OK. Patrick Hewitt should have went back to the Knicks. Oh, that's why GP said he won't retire. So that's a good point. Why he won't retire? Yeah. Payton never said he'd retire.
Starting point is 02:30:04 So that's it. Supersonics? Yeah. he won't retire? Yeah, Peyton never said he'd retire, so that's... You said you were on the Super Panics. Super Panics? Yeah, my team's Seattle. Yeah, I never retired either. Like, I have not yet to retire. Like, Carmelo. He didn't get a farewell tour. I come back in at 80.
Starting point is 02:30:20 That was at, Carmelo didn't get one. John Stockton either, no? Nope. Cause they didn't, I mean John Stockton either. No, no. Because they didn't mean just Pippen did retire with the Bulls. Are you guys got so I think like you retire with the Bulls final season. So that's good. Who the fuck knew that? I think my question is is is I didn't know is this the last of the like with the staff
Starting point is 02:30:40 and the Curry's and the bronze if you know if the path happen, or is this like the last of Fur World Tours? No. No. I'm saying like, I'm, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 02:30:53 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Cp3 KD and Steph. We have never seen four players in one air all have a fair world.
Starting point is 02:31:07 They don't have one yet. They will. You don't know that. If nobody picks Cp up right now, he don't have a fair world team. Somebody's gonna pick him up. What I'm saying is if no one picks him up, he don't have one. If one of them tear their ACL and they decide to retire,
Starting point is 02:31:22 they don't have one. Like you don't know. You don't think Scottie all these people wish they had one that you don't think their careers led to we're gonna have a farewell tour they all get no it don't play that whole year and they decide to retire that's not a farewell tour let's think about some of the greats right we're at the end like seeing Hakeem Olajuwon in a Toronto Raptors fucking jersey is diabolical. It did hurt the heart. No, thanks. Seeing Patrick Ewan with Orlando Magic 33 on is fucking crazy to me. Very nice jersey. Seeing Sack with a. So it's 36 on is did he have a farewell tour? No Because he's thinking he was about to play one more year one more year one more year cuz everybody
Starting point is 02:32:13 They were going to team from him. I hear you everyone thinks they have one more year. Yeah, you're right. You're right You're right. I think I have one more in me and then it just no Well, you might wake up in the summer and be like, you know what? Yeah, I'm good I have one more in me and then it's just new. Yeah. You might wake up in the summer and be like, you know what, yeah, I'm good. You didn't? Oh, training camp started you like... Yeah, training camp started you like...
Starting point is 02:32:33 Man, yeah, I don't feel like... Like, ah, 82, God. Damn! No. And on that note, let's move on to mostly fans. Dominique Wilkins and Spurnented by our friends at Underdog. Ooh. I thought it was levels to the Fair World Tours though.
Starting point is 02:32:51 Mark Price. Shit, AI. It's always back to the guy. Memphis. He didn't have a Fair World Tour. Chuck in the Memphis jersey. If he would have had a Fair World Tour, Chuck should have had one.
Starting point is 02:32:59 If he would have had a Fair World Tour that month, everybody would have stood in. He should have had one when he went back to Philly. But he didn't think that was the end. Should he should have had one when he went back to philly but he didn't think that was the end she definitely should have one remember you went back because i played against ai my rookie year definitely and billy i was like oh shit so dway did get a farewell tour he did oh in miami he sure did he did oh that's right that's right that's right that's right he went back to miami yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah all right well speaking of miami that's related to our question so So yeah, I get what I'm saying. So we got a question from underdog user Glazer Tag.
Starting point is 02:33:29 This is the average. 14 is last. See, there's like AI. AI average. 14 is last year. You don't know that's it. So we got a question from underdog user Glazer Tag. Glazer Tag wants to know today is the 15th
Starting point is 02:33:45 anniversary of the decision. Do you remember where you were when it went down? The decision? LeBron decided to take his talents to South Beach? Yeah, I do remember where I was at. I answered this first. I was in Spain. I was in Barcelona doing a camp. And I just got the news. I was, after my rookie year, we had played. I was in Spain during the camp for two weeks. Spain had just won the World Cup. It was cracking in the city. So yeah, I remember it was a good time.
Starting point is 02:34:14 I was like, damn, that's crazy. You said, damn, that's crazy. Yeah, and then went back to the, you know, Spain had my thing. Went to a little- What year was this? 2010, 15 year anniversary. Went to a little house. Went to a little house out there.
Starting point is 02:34:24 They had a bunch of women. It was off the chain. Ron, at the Boys and Girls Club. Where was you at, Gil? Raised $3 million for charity with his announcement. I don't remember. I was in Barcelona at a whorehouse. Do you remember where you were for the decision 15 years ago?
Starting point is 02:34:41 I'm going to guess and say that you do not. I'm glad you know me well. I know you very well. Do you think I was actually tuned in to that? Do you remember your reaction when you heard it was happening? Did you not? I think that was my last year in NBA. I mean in Denver. I was checked out. 2010-2011 that year. Oh that was, I was checked all the way out in Denver. I mean, all the way out. Do you remember you were 2010 LeBron James decision deciding to leave the Cavs, take his talents to South Beach to join Chris Brosh and Dwyane Wade to Miami Heat to form the Heedles?
Starting point is 02:35:18 Me? Gilbert Arena. 2010, I just probably would have got out of the halfway house. Yeah, that was that year. Halfway house, I just got out of that. Yeah, damn. So I probably was in Chicago dodging bullets or something around July.
Starting point is 02:35:41 Yeah, that's where you was working out at. Yeah, I was in Chicago trying to dodge. You was like, what's when you were working out. Yeah, I was in Chicago trying to dodge. What's his name? The workout dude. Tim Grover. That's the one in Chicago. And on that note, before we leave, we did ask the chat, should CP3 play one more season?
Starting point is 02:36:00 74% of the chat thinks he should. We also asked the chat, a poll from earlier, Gil, when you were sipping your Miller Life's heavier, we asked, Gil is, and we gave him two options, losing weight or a drunk uncle. 80% of the chat said a drunk uncle, a drunk uncle if you will. Oh my God, that was a classic.
Starting point is 02:36:18 Are you not a drunk uncle yet? No, he beyond. When you got that lean and that slur, and that, all right nephew. I'm a walk, that walk was the drunk uncle He don't got the walk though. Don't walk that walk. I got the walk I don't know walkers that way that he knocking them middle lights back. Man. That's the whole scene is killing me, bro This is a really nice after the game
Starting point is 02:36:42 Little lights after the game. This is a character right here. Drink Miller Lights after the game. Why you should make this character, bro? Drink Rolling Rocks after the game. Shut out the Spartans. Scott Scouse just have a bunch of beer and light. Shout out to Miller Light, purveyors of fine brew. That's what we can drink on the plane. No, I'm just saying, I would have to drink that case. The whole 12 pack.
Starting point is 02:36:56 A purveyor of? Take your drink. What? Drink all 12 of them. You're going to be peeing all day. All day. That's the only thing going to come out of it. You'll be as white as a motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:37:03 That's the only thing going to come out of it. I'm going to be bloated, and I'm going to be pissing. That's it. You can be peeing. You can be going, that's the only thing that's gonna come out of it. You'll be as white as a motherfucker. That's the only thing that's gonna come out of it. I'm gonna be bloating and I'm gonna be pissing. That's it. You can be peeing, you can be going to the bathroom every week. Oh shit, I need to go to Best Buy. Oh, 12, damn. I got my headphones, man. New headphones at Best Buy,
Starting point is 02:37:16 they're the only one in the area. Yeah, college football, man. Right down the road. Right now, today, man. What y'all wanna do? So now there's a new game out. Little niggas fumble too much, man. So now it's a new game now. Little niggas fumble too much man. So now it's a new college game.
Starting point is 02:37:27 Can I get some action? Yeah. I need to get my playbook. What team you go with? Texas. Texas. No. University of Texas baby.
Starting point is 02:37:40 I got Arizona. No, no, no. That was a good move K-Boy. I got Arizona. I got Arizona. I got Arizona Swaggy you took took your mic off sir And all that no ladies and gentlemen appreciate everybody in the chair appreciate everybody on this couch This has been another episode of gills arena presented by underdog

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