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Starting point is 00:05:15 And if you can't watch the show live with us, you can get audio versions of the show on Spotify, Apple Music, wherever you get your podcasts from. I would watch the show on YouTube and listen to the audio version. Two bags. Alright, well let's get into it. Gil, your former teammate, Brendan Haywood, made some interesting comments

Starting point is 00:05:33 during the pregame show before the LSU-Colorado game about Angel Reese and her NIL value compared to her earning potential in the WNBA. Being a star is about more than just doing it on the court. When you have that personality and people want to see you, whether they want to hate on you or whether they want to cheer for you,

Starting point is 00:05:52 that star factor is there. You brought up NIL money. She's getting a bowl. She's getting a bowl. She's going to have to take a pay cut when she goes to the WNBA. That's serious. Seriously. So, Lexi, you quote tweeted the video, said,

Starting point is 00:06:05 don't let them cover the women's basketball anymore. Thanks with the heart. The hand heart. The hand heart. So what did you think about those comments? I, well one, I've never seen him cover women's basketball before, for one. Serious? Serious.

Starting point is 00:06:21 I've never seen it. So I just feel like in that moment, he had the opportunity to provide some real legitimate insight about basketball, and then he just went to haters and money, and then it's just like a pay cut. She still might have a whole other season. Why are we even talking about things like that? And I just feel like people are failing to understand the difference between an endorsement and a salary talk about it college basketball players can you break it down they have no salary and i wish in

Starting point is 00:06:55 that moment one of those ladies that were sitting next to him i think they were caught off guard when he said that but people i mean obviously w, obviously, WNBA players, yes, we need higher salaries. We know that. That's something that we've been fighting for since the WNBA started. But for them to continue to use this NIL warped logic to continue to, like, just shit on the W is, like, odd. Because we make a salary additional, and then we additionally have endorsements on top of the salary. Whereas these college players have no salary but endorsements. So for them to say that they're going to take a pay cut, that just means that you, you,

Starting point is 00:07:35 maybe you don't think that when she gets to the next level, she's going to get these same endorsements for whatever reason that is. But I feel like if you're a good enough player, the endorsements are going to follow you. And now you also have a salary. We should also note that Renee Montgomery was on the panel with Brandon. She's the owner with the Atlanta Dream. Yeah. And like you said, you felt like she was caught off guard by those. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:53 I mean, you heard her little laugh. It was like a little awkward. Like, oh, dude, why did you say that? I mean, I think she is one of our biggest advocates for the W. So, I mean, I was a little disappointed that in that moment she wasn't like, ah-ah, but I feel like they kind of had to reel it back in because that conversation could have... Hold up, wait up, man.

Starting point is 00:08:13 I was just like... That conversation could have went somewhere else. NIL, I think everyone is confused with NIL. Yes. Like, people, parents... I know, trust me, I'm on the side. They think NIL is coming from the actual school. Like they're going to the school and say, hey, give us money.

Starting point is 00:08:36 Well, some, I mean, some schools are giving money. Not all of them. Yeah, but they're getting it from sponsors and delegating it to. And that's how the schools try to combat it because it's a player who goes out and use their likeness, their name and likeness, for endorsements, right? So what the school decided to do is for everyone else who won't get money, right?

Starting point is 00:08:57 They can do like little functions. Oh, we're going to do this at this event and we're going to cut all you guys and check 5,000, 5,000, 10,000, you know what I mean? And that's what it is. And some of these parents don't really understand that it's your likeness. So however your social media is, that's how you can go out there and get that extra stuff.

Starting point is 00:09:21 So you're right, he's wrong, that when she gets to the W, those endorsements follows. What endorsements she has, she has... Reebok. Reebok, something with The Rock. All that stuff just travels, and I don't think they understood that. No, and I don't think anybody understands that, and I don't know why nobody has corrected it. Like in these settings, I think that would have been the perfect moment to be like, endorsements, salary, separate.

Starting point is 00:09:50 And I think last week, LSU, the team had retweeted something about Aaliyah Boston's salary or whatever, and Aaliyah Boston was just like, stop bringing me, y'all don't know how much my checks is clearing. Y'all don't know how much my checks is clearing. Like, y'all don't know how much money I'm making. I mean, she said it in, like, the classy way because she's a classy girl. Like, the pocket watching is crazy. What's the unclassy way to say it?

Starting point is 00:10:15 Get out of my pockets. Get out of my pockets. Here's my, this is what I'm doing. I know her Adidas endorsement is insane. Like, and she deserves it. But she's not walking around like, this is how much money I'm making because why do we have to do that? So when you talk about NIL, and I think the thing a lot of people get confused with,

Starting point is 00:10:37 we see these evaluations, you know, you got Angel, multi-million dollar flage, players like that. But the reality is that most players aren't seeing bags from these NILs. I've talked to a lot of college athletes, because I was under the impression oh, you know, you're coming in and they're taking care of you. A lot of them are like, shit, some people get it. We're not like, that sounds good, but we're not getting it. But let's talk about the other side of it.

Starting point is 00:10:57 Because we've sat here on the show before, we had Cheryl Swoops as well, and you've talked about just how hard it is to make a WNBA roster. We've seen first round picks get cut before the season starts. So is it beneficial to women like Angel Reese to stay in college because now they can exploit those NIL deals with collectives like LSU has versus now coming to the league? You said she could bring those sponsor deals with her,

Starting point is 00:11:19 but you actually got to be in the W for those deals to follow you. Yeah, I mean, I've always said that girls should stay in college as long as they can. Even before NIL, maximizing your education. Now you can maximize your money. But, yeah, the whole core of it is being an athlete. So if you're not an athlete anymore, then the deals aren't going to come. But it's like people are like, well, she can stay in college or she can take a pay cut. But, like, the eligibility is going to run out.

Starting point is 00:11:46 She has to leave at some point. They all have to leave at some point. But if you are going to stay, you need to be killing everybody because then your value as a player is going to go down, which that's ultimately the important part. So if you're going to stay all them years, you have to be at the top of your game at all times. I mean, I was a fifth year senior. I mean, I was ready to go, but I was looking at the freshmen trying to guard me like, you can't guard me. Like you're 18, I'm 23, like time to go. So yeah. So let's talk about from the W side of it. You've got to spend, I think, four years in college or be over 22 years old to be eligible to go to the WNBA. League is expanding. We were talking on the couch yesterday.

Starting point is 00:12:29 You said the game should be longer. It seems like the roster should also expand as well. But what's the solution to this problem of NIL money versus number of available WNBA roster spots once you get to that next level to be able to take those brands hopefully with you when you go to the league? I mean, I think the problem right now is they have that COVID year, so they're, like, choosing to stay, when in reality that's not how it goes. You have four years of eligibility and then you go. So I think this senior class, if they choose to come out,

Starting point is 00:12:57 this is going to be, like, the first group of NIL, like a big group of NIL kids, to see how it translates to the pro level, because there's nothing that we can compare it to because we didn't have NIL. So we don't know if it's going to translate or not because it's never happened before. I mean, Zaya is my teammate. You know, her endorsements came with her. She was doing great in L.A.

Starting point is 00:13:16 Aaliyah, Boston, her endorsements went with her in Indiana. So, so far, it's translating if you do what you're supposed to do on the court. But, again, this I'm going to stay, I'm going to go, like, that's not reality because the COVID year is done. So now you have your four years of eligibility, then you got to get out. Just so people know about the NILs, I think number 15 on the NIL list is 78,000. So out of all the girls in college, 78,000. And just so we understand that has nothing to do with your game,

Starting point is 00:13:55 it's if you can sell product. It's about, NIL is about can you sell. So the top two players is Reese and Floje. Right? And they're both in the million, and then the best player in the country is at 700,000. So Flojee makes half, more than half, or I'm shit, double. Double. Then the best player in the country.

Starting point is 00:14:16 The best player in the country, because the best player in the country has no personality. So how are you going to sell the product? She's in Iowa, yep. That's it. You know what I mean? Personality. Sell the person in Iowa. Yep. That's it. You know what I mean? Personality. Sell these shoes.

Starting point is 00:14:28 Okay. They love her out in Iowa, man. So I see her in deep thought. I'm soaking it all in. Just taking it off. Just soaking it. I love the energy from it. I think Gil's going to be right all in it at Louisville with his daughter.

Starting point is 00:14:44 He can give us a lot of insight we get a bad girl, I personally think that uh You have to you have to change it like you have to change the structure the structure has been the same way for the last 30 something years and it hasn't evolved So the the last 30 years has shown us that this is not how it works. Right? You know, four years in college

Starting point is 00:15:08 and going overseas and it hasn't worked. So there needs to be four or five new teams, right, one and done or shut out of high school, let all these young girls

Starting point is 00:15:22 come in and change the way the game is being played. Right? The way the game is being played, it's dinosaurish from the standpoint of how the play calls. There's too many plays and let their celebrity-ism from high school follow them into the W. So that means their whole fan base is going to follow. College fans are college fans, right? A Duke fan is a Duke fan. He's not a, you leave and then I follow you. No, he stays there. So what ends up happening is all these college or these high school kids, they can't bring their fandom with them. So they lose their fandom and then just get a city. So

Starting point is 00:16:06 unless you played, unless there was a WNBA team in Duke, when you go you got to try to create a whole new fan base. So more teams, expand the roster roster One and done because the overseas girls have to come in the Cambridge's they get to come in and play right Worst case scenario if you're if There's only one or two girls in the country that can come one year and done a straight out of high school But you're bringing so much flavor like right now now you got Juju who had what? 32. 32 last night. And then you had Foo Wiley. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:16:51 Fuck SC. Yeah, for South Carolina. 17 off the bench. Right on. 17. You put those two in the W, like there's a fan base that's coming with them. You're going to sell more products. I mean, you have to try it. Right?

Starting point is 00:17:03 You're missing out on a Kobe a Tracy McGrady a Kevin Garnett, you know, what about all the the rest though like There's oh well when the NBA when they when it was letting them high school kids in the old heads was getting chopped Like I mean do you still need the Sue Bird and Diana Taurasi? Do you still need the girls who's been there for 20 you don't need them for you like very good though What I'm saying is 37 to 40 that you can cut them Right, they're not doing anything to your fan base. Then you can't complain about not having vets and shit We have vets from 30 to damn 35. No, what I'm saying is, like,

Starting point is 00:17:45 what happens to the ones that do leave early and it doesn't pan out? They're going to be overseas, getting their little thing in, and then come back. But that's not how their minds work, Gil. No, I know, because they use the four-year, get your education,

Starting point is 00:18:01 and then by the time your career is done, whatever you majored in is outdated anyway. Get your education and then by the time your career is done. Whatever you What have you majored in is outdated anyway? Outdated you got a little justice All the time in college is the reason why some Girl players don't make it to the next level because it's too much time Because I mean I've seen girls who come into college top ranked, blah, blah, blah, by year four. It's done, yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:27 They're like... It's true. Well, they're like, I don't even want to play anymore. Yeah. They're burnt. Then they're not,

Starting point is 00:18:33 they didn't get any better. Everyone else got better. But, like, you think it's because of them being in school for too long? Yeah. Or...

Starting point is 00:18:39 Okay, how about this? Let's take you your freshman year, right? We put you through college for the same years, or we put you in the W. We're going to guarantee you those same years. Okay, guarantee. We're going to guarantee you those same years. When you guys meet each other at 23, who's the better player?

Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah, the W player. But the important thing is they got to be guaranteed. No, what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is now think about now think about what you just said if The same 23 year old who was in the system of the WNBA played against the college player and they're better Think about it all the way across the board and how that game changes. Yeah, and And that's what I know at some point it can get there But there's the salaries are just going to have to be higher. But it's the player development, too. I think the major element that he's talking about

Starting point is 00:19:29 is how much better the players get because in the league, you're training in the way they train in the league. You're doing everything the way they do in the league. So there's no adjustment periods after that first year compared to doing three years in college and then having to come in and do that first year. I will say that there's not much skill development in the W. In college either.

Starting point is 00:19:48 Yeah, so a lot of the development is, like, on your own. Yeah. And then you go overseas and get better, and then you come back. Like, I don't really hear from my team from, like, a development standpoint until a month before training camp starts maybe. Yeah, as I said, it's like they don't put the, they want a league to be successful, but they don't want to put no energy into it. That's not how it works.

Starting point is 00:20:14 I agree. Right? If you say you're bleeding money, then bleed it. Then take the fucking bandaid off and actually fix the problem versus just keep putting band-aids on thinking It's gonna just heal itself. Yeah, that's not how it works You have to you have to really have a structure have real basketball minds Making the decisions because if you're gonna lose 1 million and you're a billionaire you might as well lose six It's to say you just write it off. To build this structure for it to be solid later.

Starting point is 00:20:47 I mean, and that's why I do love this NIL era because you are having girls come in with these humongous fan bases that we didn't have

Starting point is 00:20:54 because we didn't have social media like that or when we were in college, we were like banned from it, essentially. So, yeah,

Starting point is 00:21:01 it's going to force their hand for sure. So, I mean, I think it can be a positive for the league. They just have to accept what is going on. And I think a player like Juju is probably going to be the one that changes it

Starting point is 00:21:13 because she's, this is like the first freshman superstar group coming through this NIL. This group right here? Yeah. With the NIL bag. Yeah, with the NIL bag. From high school that are coming through, so. And then, like, that's why I said if you're Dub and you're just sitting there just four years,

Starting point is 00:21:30 you're just four years before we can get these girls. Just think about the game that, like, look how much momentum you lose. You just. Yeah. Like I said, just go back to the NBA, right? And we think about the early 90s, right? You have like the Shaquille O'Neals coming in. And then a trinkle of high school kids.

Starting point is 00:21:58 So how come the NBA took that out? The players gave it up. Okay. The NBA players gave it up for one extra day of All-Star weekend vacation. Okay. It was 47-53 owners split. We wanted it to be 5149 us What and we gave up the high school for the one and done But like that's was it but think about all those one and done's and those high school kids those

Starting point is 00:22:38 Those are the kids that really changed like the Kobe's the team act they changed the game they they made the four-Mac, they changed the game. They made the four-man irrelevant and made it taller. They made the four-man taller. Like, you know, you've seen the... Like, think about if Kobe went to college four years. Like, think about a four-year player that comes into the NBA four years. He's trash. He's been watered down. I don't think the WNBA would miss out on anything

Starting point is 00:23:12 if they took one of those guaranteed spots for a vet and gave it to a rookie that they believe in. But that's something that we think about. It's return on investment. I talk about this shit in my book. It's funny that we're even talking about it because it's like when you understand what the owners compared to the sponsors at these universities who offer

Starting point is 00:23:34 and give this money for these scholarships that they'd be paying for, the return on the investment. How am I going to get my return, right? We talk about how do you carry a fan base from this spot to this spot? And I used to have this conversation about the Amaris, the T-Max, the Kobe's, everyone that came out of high school,

Starting point is 00:23:49 but they didn't have an audience to bring with them, right? So the NBA couldn't profit off of the Kobe's, the T-Max, the Amaris. They didn't create a fan base in high school because it wasn't social media era, right? We didn't get to see all of the shit that they was doing in high school to create a fan base so they could bring over to the NBA. So the NBA started to see during the Dwight Howard, Sebastian Teller affair, that class when they came out of high school, that's when they stopped trying to let high school players come straight to the NBA. I think they stopped it after that year. Well, after... Sean Livingston and J.R. Smith here.

Starting point is 00:24:27 When they came out of high school, they stopped it after that. Perk would have been... Perk was that year. It had been 2005, 4 or 5? Yeah, 2005 NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement. Yep, that was it. And so when they started seeing

Starting point is 00:24:42 how they couldn't profit off that, this is the NCAA. They're saying if we keep our players longer, we have to incentivize them now. How do we keep them here long enough for them to create a fan base so now the return on the investment is going to go trickle over to the NBA? That's their collective deal, just like an ESPN deal, a TV deal. It's a farm deal.

Starting point is 00:25:04 You bring our players You get them get them all beefed up bring them over here when they got a fan base and we can we can soak that It ain't happening as much because you get these kids ain't create no fan base And they're not getting the kids that are coming out of college now They're only doing one year and they're not creating a big enough fan base to carry over to the NBA You know what we can base. That's what I'm saying're not creating a big enough fan base to carry over to the NBA. We had a high school fan base. That's what I'm saying. It's not big enough.

Starting point is 00:25:28 The high school fan base is. Not now. Because now you have to perform beyond that. Like, as soon as you cross the line. So you're saying that they lose their high school fan base in college? If they go to college. If they go to college. If they go to college.

Starting point is 00:25:40 You lose your high school fan base. They're losing it right in that middle. But a college fan base doesn't travel to the NBA. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying when they get there, that one year of college dilutes their fan base, and it brushes them out. So only your core comes with you to the NBA. People who was with you when they first seen you and all that, that's a small percentage. That's a lot.

Starting point is 00:25:59 It's a small percentage, especially after it's diluted out. When LeBron came in, his whole fan base was high school kids. But that's LeBron. We're talking about one guy. Kobe Bryant. The White Howards didn't get converted over. Kwame's in. All of these other guys, yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:12 He was the number one pick. But they didn't have fan bases. What? What? Kobe Bryant was a starter in the All-Star game. From his fan base, average fucking what came off the bench? Bro, it didn't happen his rookie year. What are you talking bases, bro. Kobe Bryant was a starter in the All-Star game. From his fan base, average fucking what came off the bench? Bro, it didn't happen his rookie year. What are you talking about, bro?

Starting point is 00:26:29 How many games did he start? He's just going against me now. How many games did he start? He started one game. He started one game his second year. Oh, my God, man. Was he an All-Star his rookie year, bro? No, he was a starter the second year.

Starting point is 00:26:39 Was he an All-Star his rookie year, bro? No, his second year. Okay, so he had a whole year to play in the NBA, bro, and show he was good, bro. Did he play in the NBA? What I'm saying is it was his high school fan base. What are you talking about? LaMelo Ball, his high school fan base. Like, what is the other ball brother?

Starting point is 00:27:00 Lonzo Ball, high school fan base. Yeah, but different, I mean. Jalen Green, high school fan base. Um Yeah, but different I mean Jalen green high school fan base. This is these are all high school high school players That's what I wrote high school kids No high school kids. They don't really know NBA players Right my high school these kids will rather go to a high school game and watch this player before they watch the NBA. When you see them kids roll up them pants, they're not rolling up the pants because of an NBA player. They're rolling it up because they've seen Jalen Green roll it up, and you can see his little nuts hanging out the bottom of the shorts.

Starting point is 00:27:36 That's what started that. Now the little girls want to do it because the boys is doing it. That's all high school stuff. What I'm saying is when you're talking about selling shoes and selling jerseys, you're selling that to high school, middle school kids. These kids don't know college basketball. College basketball kids watch college basketball. High school, middle school kids do not watch college basketball. They watch the NBA. So it's better for a player to go straight out of high school to the NBA because he gets to take all his money with him.

Starting point is 00:28:10 When you're selling tickets and you're selling shoes and product, Steph Curry is selling to who? Kids. John Moran is selling to who? Kids. I've done the research already on this. Let's keep this thing moving. We can talk about this for an extensive amount of time, but let's talk about when you get to the league. Nicknames are an important part of basketball culture, and there are some great ones throughout history, and there are some questionable ones too. So Josh Giddey has

Starting point is 00:28:43 gained a reputation for dropping dimes on sideline out of bounds plays. The Athletics' John Hollinger tried to show him some love by nicknaming him the Slob Wizard. Oh, my goodness. But Giddey, he's not feeling the new nickname. John, what did you do? Slob Wizard. Now, let's not make that stick. That's been sticking too long already.

Starting point is 00:29:09 Well, rule number one of any nickname, if you say you don't like it, they're just going to keep calling you. Yeah. So what are your thoughts on Giddy's Slop Wizard nickname? The Slop Wizard, Josh Giddy. Got to go. It just makes him seem like he's out of shape and fat. He's a slob, huh?

Starting point is 00:29:29 Yeah, you know, we're in L.A. We can't use that word. Well, if you guys don't know what slob means, it means sideline out of bounds. You can't use the word you're supposed to even go there. I'm just saying. Anybody watching doesn't know what slob means. It means sideline out of bounds. To some.

Starting point is 00:29:43 To some. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To me. Every time I hear it, like Coach has of bounds. To some. To some. Yeah, yeah, yeah. To me. Every time I hear it, like Coach has said, I'm always like, ooh. Blobs and slobs. You're not saying that at Dorsey High School? No. You're not saying that at Parking in Inglewood?

Starting point is 00:29:56 We just call them, you say, sideline out of bounds? Yeah, sideline out of bounds. Sideline out of bounds. All together. Say it all together. I don't need to grow up. Say it fast. All together.

Starting point is 00:30:04 All together. Grow up, please. Coach, what are we doing? Sideline out of bounds. He's sick. He's sick. Us Y'all need to grow up. Say it fast. All together. All together. Grow up, please. Coach, what are we doing? Shout out to that guy. He's like, us grow up, tell them grow up. Poor John. He had no idea what he did. He probably was like, this is a good one.

Starting point is 00:30:16 He's a slop wizard. Slop wizard. He thought he ate that. Just saying, for those of you who know, certain parts of the country, that's not you know. You might get chin checked for that. He's cooking, though. He thought he ate that. Just saying, for those of you who know, certain parts of the country, that's not you know. You might get chin checked for that. He's cooking though. He thought he was cooking. He really did.

Starting point is 00:30:31 He thought he ate that sweet. Let that man cook. He was proud of that one. We've already talked about some of the worst nicknames in NBA history. Jameer Nelson's the crib midget. What? I think Jason Maxfield was baby eater if I'm not mistaken. Baby eater?

Starting point is 00:30:44 Craig Elo's nickname was eggs Apparently because he liked making eggs With what's the nickname someone tried to give you that you hated? Not sure you like that girl I came over there you came over That's what I was screaming every time I hit a shot, Nacho! From Nacho Libre. Nacho! Great move. Now it makes sense. That would be so hilarious.

Starting point is 00:31:12 You know NBA players hate when you say stuff after you score. Hilarious. Did somebody try to give you a nickname that you weren't rocking with? Well, when I was younger, they called me Sexy Lexi, so as a 13-year-old, I was like, I don't want to be that. But who was calling you that? Women or was there like? Just random people because it rhymed, I guess.

Starting point is 00:31:34 But like when I was younger, obviously you're like, sexy. No, but now I'm like, yep, that's me. Sexy Lexi. Yeah, that's what I was calling you anyway. I was calling you that. Sexy Lexi over there. I thought that was your name anyway. I was like, what That's sexy. That's sexy. I thought that was your rhyme anyway. I was like, what is going on?

Starting point is 00:31:49 Everybody's at their appropriate age now. Everybody's cool. Shit. Nasty. Was it McNasty? Nasty. Who gave you that nickname? Ticket, man.

Starting point is 00:32:01 Ticket did that shit. Did you have to just accept it because it was Ticket saying it? No, I It was like preseason was doing some shit in Vegas, and I made a move on one of the point guards He was like oh, that's it. That's I'm calling now. I'm like what? And it went right down and we're right down that rabbit hole. That's your porn name, huh? Nigga, you get nasty with them, don't you? Nigga, I'm like, yeah, I do. You call it no grown man now. The work, man. This is for the work only.

Starting point is 00:32:30 For the work only. You get the ticket. You giving me, Nick Nasty, come on, man. You tripping, man. Let's change that. Shoddy. Call me Shoddy.

Starting point is 00:32:38 Shoddy. That's cool. Call me Shoddy, man. And we also got to mention that one of Nick Young's nicknames, Swaggy P, was Bean Burrito. What? And Corey McGeady had a nickname, Bad Porn. And we also got to mention that one of Nick Young's nicknames Swaggy P was a bean burrito What? And Corey McGeady had a nickname bad porn

Starting point is 00:32:50 What what? He must have got caught but Let me do you get that? So let just says that bad porn moniker came from irate Golden State Warriors fan who justified it by saying sure there's penetration That's going but are you really happy with what you're seeing? Because of the way he played? It's a very well thought out nickname. Okay, that was a good one. That was a good one.

Starting point is 00:33:16 That was a good one. What's the wildest nickname that you've heard? The wildest? Did Tyrone Hill have a nickname? Damn, bro. You can go straight for the jungle. No, I'm just saying. I've been thinking about some guys like that. You can go straight for the jungle. Straight for the jungle.

Starting point is 00:33:34 Wasn't it Bones or Amitri? He didn't wait no time. I'm just trying to figure out what kind of nickname did they give him. You're always... You go funny, dude. His nickname was T-Time. T-Time. T-Time. Like T-Rex. You're always you know funny his nickname was tea time tea time like t-rex So we talked about slobber that if you grew up in LA

Starting point is 00:34:04 92,000 you knew the legend of Super Crip. But the fact that college coaches would come on recruiting visits and refer to him as Super Crip was probably the wildest. What's up, Super Crip? Man, that's crazy. That's crazy. I think what names are not creative is when we all did it, right? We just used our initials and our number. G-A?

Starting point is 00:34:28 Yeah, G-A-0. What about AK-47? That seemed to... That was nice. There were. AR-15 also we had to... Nice. We had to put on the shelf.

Starting point is 00:34:38 CP-3. Y'all was fucking with Grandma Ma. Grandma Ma was cool. I mean, back then hindsight back then i mean like men dressing up as women i'm just asking a question i'm just asking y'all like for real but you remember in the 90s everybody everybody was doing it it was a thing black men dressing up as women in the movie. Everybody was doing it. Oh, like Big Mama's House and stuff? Except Eddie Griffin.

Starting point is 00:35:08 Doubtfire. Except Eddie Griffin. And Martin. That was not, that was a little after. Wasn't it... Yeah, Big Mama's House. Wesley Snipes. To Wong Fu. And Living Color. Didn't see it, but I'm a cinema buff.

Starting point is 00:35:24 What was her name? Shanaad. Sinead, yeah. That was funny, at least, though. That is funny. I was young, so I didn't know. It was just cool, grandma, mom. Like Uncle Drew predecessor. I mean, how was it? It was different, because if you look back, like you're saying,

Starting point is 00:35:38 if you look back, you'd be like, oh, we didn't notice. It's just Larry Johnson, right? And then you're looking at it now, and I'm like, hold up, man. We got to get Larry Johnson on the show to figure out how that conversation started. And we're like, we want you to be an old-ass grandma that gives people buckets. I think it was one of the- Family matters. He was on family matters.

Starting point is 00:35:57 You did make that family matters. I seen a doc, and he was saying that something came up up and they had to scratch it and then they brought mad He was like fine. Whatever. Let's just get this over with and then it just took off but back then back then Nicknames was the shit. You had the worm. Yeah, I stretch Armstrong human highlight reel the Dr. Dunk Dunk Dunk, Chocolate Thunder, the Iceman. What was his name? Daryl Dawkins.

Starting point is 00:36:26 Daryl Dawkins. Daryl Dawkins. Back then, nicknames was a thing, but you had to earn them. Yeah, there's not really nicknames no more. I'm thinking about it. There's not. There's not really nicknames anymore. Particularly good ones.

Starting point is 00:36:35 No, because people want to give themselves their nickname versus earning a nickname. Right. That's the difference. Like Larry Legend, he didn't make that up. They gave it to him. You know, Magic nickname. Right. That's the difference. Like, Larry Legend, like, he didn't make that up. They gave it to him. You know, Magic Johnson. Magic. You earned it.

Starting point is 00:36:50 Right. You didn't just make this shit up yourself. It's your handle now, though. It's your Instagram handle. Are there any players right now that are nickname-less that deserve a nickname?

Starting point is 00:36:58 KD is an easy money sniper. But that's what I'm saying. Chef Curry. The servant. Is his nickname Chef Curry? I think so. For the most part, he'd be cheffing up. Soufflé.

Starting point is 00:37:10 The beard. The beard? Okay, see, yeah. Basic though, he has a beard. I remember just saying. So the actual audience has to, or, you know, because... Like Agent Zero came from... From the fans.

Starting point is 00:37:22 Yeah, the fans. Yeah. Because it was coming from my. So it came from my Where was that not black Twitter it was called myspace so my handle was black president Oh one and This thing where I had like they un I had someone unlock it so I had 50 Yeah, right like I have 50 friends all women and it was called it was called Secret Service Right. It was called Secret Service. So what I was playing in DC someone's like man You're like an agent man be like cuz you got the Secret Service your agent like agent zero and I was like that's fire

Starting point is 00:38:02 That's a fire as name. Why does everything always come back to the work? What you mean? That's what the work do, they help you. Before that my name was Zero the Hero. They help you get through tough times. They help you. Everything can be pinpointed and traced back since the beginning of time. The work inspired me, man.

Starting point is 00:38:21 At first it was Zero the Hero from college. And then it was trash. You said it in Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was trash. Yeah. You said it in the commercial, though. You know what I'm saying? Zero the Hero. Zero the Hero. I was like, eh, eh, eh.

Starting point is 00:38:32 Zero's better. Zero's better. All right, well, away we go. The Miami Heat debuted a new Heat culture-themed City Edition court for their matchup against the Lakers Monday night. Against the Lakers? Oh my gosh. The court features Pat Riley's core values of the team inside both of the keys.

Starting point is 00:38:53 Hardest working, best conditioned, most professional, unselfish, toughest, meanest, nastiest team in the NBA. So what are your guys' thoughts on this new Heat culture City Edition court? I'm going to ask our former Heat fan slash Celtics fan slash current Victor Wippey. I'm going to... I don't know how I feel about that. You know, because it's...

Starting point is 00:39:21 They're not playing like that right now. That's why I don't regret making my choice because They're not playing like that right now. That's why I don't regret making my choice, because they're still playing like I seen them. They was going to come in and play like this, and I just didn't want to come into the office every week and have to fight y'all niggas, because they just don't show up, man. I need them to.

Starting point is 00:39:43 He got some validity in the statement, but they just got to play like that shit all the time. They can't just be out there putting shit on the court and then going out and getting their ass whooped. So, you know, it's got to carry over. When it do, it mean a lot. I don't know you could put all those words in the key like that. I don't like it.

Starting point is 00:39:59 It's just too much. It looks trashy. It's too much. Like, I mean, in the key, like, I mean, around, I mean... I was trying to think of anywhere else they could have put that. I don't know. In your face, right there. It's odd.

Starting point is 00:40:13 Right there. Where he's coming to dunk? Read it. Read him and weep. So the internet had a little fun, decided to do a mock-up of what the Thunders City Edition court would look like if they followed the Heath's model. Shout out to the Uncontested podcast. It's literally just all the crap, bitch. That lined up very nicely. That lined up nicely, didn't it?

Starting point is 00:40:37 That lined up perfectly, didn't it? Fair and prissy. Pull the trigger, get it done. That's funny. That's funny as hell. Now, that would hit. But let's talk about your former team, the Heat, a little bit. Currently 3-4.

Starting point is 00:40:49 Still feeling the aftermath of not landing Dame or another superstar in the offseason. So as you look at this squad, will the Heat make a major move this season to strengthen the roster? Obviously, Tyler Hero's name has been mentioned a ton in trade rumors. Then after Dame, Traylor, now we actually want you, dog. They need to move them pieces, man. Like I said, Hero, Robinson, Lowry. Get them up out of there. And if you can take the young fella with them,

Starting point is 00:41:11 take the young fella with them. You know, they got pieces in Philly that they trying to unload. I already know they trying to make moves in Chicago, too, because they not doing nothing this year. I can already see it. It's already in the water. So I think there's a lot of opportunity

Starting point is 00:41:25 for a lot of different pieces to go different places. They just got to be willing to part ways. Like he said, they like to stick to their guns. So they'll probably keep that whole team up until the trade deadline. I mean, Hero, Larry, and... Velazquez. That's three shooters.

Starting point is 00:41:49 Get a guard back. Levine. You think the Bulls will give that up? No, they won't. I mean, they're stacked up. Levine and Kobe white That could be all right, it's a good that's a good possibility right there wait did daughters become best friends How come Tyler heroes always in the trade discussions and never gets traded

Starting point is 00:42:25 Because he's the well Because he's the only valuable piece, probably at the right price. Mm-hmm. That, you know, like, he has a position, but he doesn't have a position, right?

Starting point is 00:42:35 He's just a guy who can come off instant offense. So if he's going to go to, like, some type of contender team, he's going to come off the bench.

Starting point is 00:42:46 So you think they're kind of like letting him loose right now so he's easier to trade? Mm, yep. I mean, the business of it all, obviously, business is business. But sometimes I get lost in it because I'm like, OK, like y'all don't want him, but now you're letting him take all the shots. But that's showcasing.

Starting point is 00:43:00 That's called showcasing. That's messed up, man. You showcase your talent before pushing them off in the trade. So they let him do, like, I've been in that situation where they'll put you in if they're showcasing you for a trade, or they'll bench you. It's whatever perception they want to paint for the next team that picks you up. That's all J. Right? So they can either bench you and put you on the DNP list, right?

Starting point is 00:43:21 And don't get hurt. Right? Now, you're good trade value, but you're not playing, so we don't know what you can do. Or they'll showcase you and put you in the starting lineup, start giving you plays and shit. You're like, what the fuck is going on? We're about to move your ass, man. We need you to score.

Starting point is 00:43:34 We need you to score a couple buckets. Yeah, we need you to go out there and make this trade happen. For sure. We got 38 last night. Fool, got all the shots. Yeah. Ain't never going to play again, I promise you. Me sitting there mad, like, damn, we just got rid of him. He had 38 last night. Fool, got him all the time. Take him. And he never going to play again, I promise you. Me sitting there mad like, damn, we just got rid of him.

Starting point is 00:43:47 Damn, he had 38 last night. Have you seen that happen to a player and did they know what was going on or were they just like, oh, okay, team's finally riding with me? I mean, back then they used to, the agent used to tell you. Okay. Like, they about to play you a lot tonight. You're going to get some reps up, go out there and do your thing. And so when you get that,

Starting point is 00:44:05 it's kind of like a green light without talking to your coach. So is the coach telling the agent that? Nah, the team is telling the agent that we're looking to trade him. So we're going to play him a lot more. So tell him to get ready for shots and shit. Or a player who's demanding a trade

Starting point is 00:44:21 and they're still like, we need to see him. And then it's like a couple pieces traded so they're like, all right, we're going to play you. Go on, do your thing. Yeah. Good luck with you. Get out there. That's so messed up.

Starting point is 00:44:32 That's our calling play that you never have. Two drop. Two drop. For sure. Oh, I'm the two? Me, yeah. I'm the two. I'm playing the two today.

Starting point is 00:44:39 Never heard of this play before in practice. See? Fuck, nigga. Never heard of this play before. Jesus. Fuck. Nigga, what? Never heard this played before. Christmas. So speaking of heat culture, we got to talk a little bit about Bron. Bron was back in Miami. Offer some thoughts on his time with the heat to ESPN's Dave McMiniman.

Starting point is 00:44:57 So Bron said, I think I would still be at this level no matter if I would have came here or not. Let's not get it twisted. The four years I was here, it was amazing. I loved everything about it. Loved this franchise. This franchise is top tier. It's one of the best franchises in the world. But as far as my career, my career was going to be my career as far as individually because I know how much I put into the game and I know how much I've strived to be as great as I can be. But as far as what I was able to learn here, was second to none, that's for sure. So, you know, this quote has kind of created a stir amongst the basketball community.

Starting point is 00:45:29 We got to point out, Brown won two MVPs, two chips, two finals MVPs. He made the finals all four years that he was in South Beach. You know, not four, not five, not six. Just two. And, you know, Winchpaul joined us last season. He pretty much said the same thing in regards to hanging to Miami.

Starting point is 00:45:48 So will LeBron still be the same player if he never played for the Heat? Yeah. No question about it. You think he would still have those two championships but somewhere else? Yeah. Mm. And Cleveland? He stayed? two champ those two championships but somewhere else yeah in cleveland he stayed yeah so what happens there gil i don't think he went into it does he not leave cleveland huh so if he doesn't go to miami does he leave yeah does he go somewhere else or he stays? And you're saying wherever he goes, he's going to win?

Starting point is 00:46:25 Championship. Really? I don't know. Really? Yeah. Really? He's going to win West? Championship.

Starting point is 00:46:33 He's going to beat Kobe? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Do you think any other team would have allowed him to do that, whatever the hell they did. I think people are, I think people, well, you want to play Shannon Sharpe shit first? I don't think we have it accessible.

Starting point is 00:46:52 OK, so I heard Shannon Sharpe and that was weird because he's supposed to be a LeBron supporter. I think he's keeping it real, Gil. No, he's keeping it false. Wait, what is Shannon Sharpe saying? OK. Well, he's keeping it. He keeping it false. Wait, what is Okay Well, let's listen. Let's listen. Let's then put it in perspective when LeBron James was a free agent him and him Bosch and Wade And Mike Miller were teamed up

Starting point is 00:47:19 So in theory wherever he went they were they're to win championships because it was four of them together. That's the narrative that they're not understanding. So if it was Heat, if it was New York Knicks where they were supposed to go, they were going to dominate because four of them was coming together. It wasn't just him going. The Knicks messed the trade up by signing Amari Stoudemire because they didn't know what LeBron and them were doing. So they signed Amari and then they're like, we don't want to play with Amari, we have our crew.

Starting point is 00:47:53 And then they said, all right, well, let's just go to Miami. Because they didn't want to play in Cleveland. Bosh didn't want to play in Cleveland too cold because he wanted to get out of Toronto. And Wade was like, I'm not going there. So they was coming as a package already. So no matter where he went, yes, he was going to be who he was. So that's basically you saying no matter where he went, they was going to follow him and support him and get in the championship somewhere else regardless of where he went mm-hmm so it wasn't really about him being by

Starting point is 00:48:28 himself and going to win them championships like he's saying if I didn't go to Miami he's saying it as if he's not gonna be with those other things no that's what no he said he I don't know what said if I don't really need this Miami thing to solidify my career. They needed him. He didn't need Miami. They needed him. So you don't think like the heat culture, all that stuff. What is the heat culture? The Wayne Wade and his championship before he got there.

Starting point is 00:48:59 The championship that D. Wade won. Oh, because they traded for a generational player by the name of Shaquille O'Neal, Brungan Gary Payton, Brungan, all these other players to build with Dwyane Wade so they can win a championship. That's what the heat culture is because all their championships was bought with generational players. It wasn't building nothing. They didn't build a team. They bought a team. They bought Shaquille O'Neal build a team. They bought a team. They bought Shaquille O'Neal, Gary Payton, and all of them.

Starting point is 00:49:36 And then the next championship they won, they bought LeBron James, Chris Bosh, and Mike Miller, and Ray Allen. They bought that. So this heat culture now is new? I can tell you what the heat culture is. Like when did it start? The notepad is out. Right one day. Uh-oh. Before LeBron got there. He said it was bought it wasn't both

Starting point is 00:49:50 Those players was inherited because if you could say that about them you can say that about all the teams that actually know But he's happy when you're talking about he cultured in that like he culture should look like Golden State culture Why should it because they would and then it wouldn't be Heat culture. It would be Golden State culture. No, what I'm saying is they drafted those players and built them. You're pretending you're building these players because before LeBron got there,

Starting point is 00:50:14 first round loss. It says 15 and 67. First round loss, first round loss, first round loss. Then LeBron and the crew came and then they went to the championship, and then they won a championship, and then they won a championship, and then they went to the championship. LeBron left. LeBron left. Wade and the Heat culture and Bosh is still there.

Starting point is 00:50:42 No playoffs. Did he take the Heat culture with him? Did he take the heat coach with him? Did he take the heat coach with him when he left? Because they didn't make the playoffs. 33 and 49. No playoffs. LeBron, just LeBron, went to a team that didn't make the playoffs, and they went to the finals. So where LeBron went, when he went to Miami, they won the finals on a struggling team. Then he comes to Cavs, they went to the championship.

Starting point is 00:51:21 Won a ring a year later. So Cavs culture. Won a ring later. Only he later. So Cavs culture. One a ring later. Only he left. So LeBron culture. Only he left. And they were in last place the following year. This is extraordinary information he's dropping on us, everybody.

Starting point is 00:51:36 All this LeBron love is just extraordinary today. I'm just saying. You said keep it real. I'm keeping it real. So let's take. Are you saying all that to say what exactly? Are you saying that LeBron is his own culture? Yeah

Starting point is 00:51:51 What did James Harden say he's a system Since the LeBron is the culture And that's the thing like you he was trying to say LeBron James wouldn't be a top five player if he didn't go to my name What he said they did he said how can we put you in the top five? Easily. Before, without Heat culture, he has a scoring title, assist championship, two-time All-NBA, two-time MVP, three-time All-Star MVP, three-time All-First Team All-Defense. I'm pretty sure that with his resume still

Starting point is 00:52:26 and then leading the NBA in scoring, he will still be where he is right now with just two championships, two MVPs, two Finals MVPs. Yes, sir. Really? Yes, sir. Do you think he wins those championships

Starting point is 00:52:40 with the Cavs and with the Lakers without that time with the Heat? The man went to a team that was 33-49 and took them to the championship, sir. 33-49, sir. And then he went to... He's not going to answer your question.

Starting point is 00:52:54 Hey, you know you asked him a question? See how you asked him a question? And he glossed all the way over that motherfucker. Didn't give you no... He wasn't even looking to answer the question. He was just going to give you this whole... Answer the question. One player going to a bad team

Starting point is 00:53:10 and they're going to the championship. How can you say he would not have won the championship in those four years? But you don't think him being in Miami

Starting point is 00:53:18 with Pat Riley, you don't think it had anything to do with his... It probably taught him how to be a professional, taught him how to be more disciplined

Starting point is 00:53:26 All different, but what is Pat Riley done? He's helped. I hear in what when you help him Well, time winner who helped who win he helped LeBron winners No, LeBron helped him win another championship just like Shaq and all of them helped him win the championship Did they help each other though? Can we say that can LeBron go to Cleveland and show Kyrie them how to win a championship? He wouldn't have had Kyrie. So that's the thing we also got to talk about. What I'm saying is, when he just

Starting point is 00:53:51 him left, the Heat culture is still there. Dwyane Wade is still there. Chris Bosh is still there. How the fuck do they not make the playoffs? Not the playoffs? Where's the Heat culture? You have a bad season. Oh! You have a bad season. Yeah, you have a bad season? Yeah Okay, yeah the best season

Starting point is 00:54:14 Pitfalls did not seem like LeBron had a bad season because he was in a champion, but he had With the Lakers did the Lakers make the Lakers did the Lakers make the playoffs the first year LeBron got there. No Following you didn't want a championship though and in a third year no Okay, you got third year he got but they won a championship, though. And in the third year? No, second. The third year, he got there. But they won the championship. Third year, they didn't make the playoffs. When did? How about Pat Riley? He got hurt the fourth year.

Starting point is 00:54:30 What happened the fourth year? He got hurt. How about Pat Riley? Fourth year, what happened the fourth year? How about Pat Riley and his system? So we can't say LeBron ain't had no pitfalls either. Everybody had pitfalls. You had bad seasons sometimes.

Starting point is 00:54:40 At 37, 36, 37. Where you get swept out the playoffs. 37, 36, 38. We're talking about when he was 20-something years old. You're talking about this man could have went to any team he wanted to and won it. If Bosh would have came.

Starting point is 00:54:56 I don't believe that. I don't believe that. Because you just said they was all going to be on one team anyway. If Bosh was there. If Bosh came to Cleveland, Bosh and LeBron, they don't win the championship? They don't put themselves in a position?

Starting point is 00:55:12 Before he go to Miami? They were all free agents at the same time. Before he went out of the game? No D-Wade in the mix? Just him and Bosh? Nah. Nah. In Cleveland? Nah, because he didn't take at like 27 years old, 22, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, was all of that. Y'all keep using that as an excuse for that man, man. It's a team, man.

Starting point is 00:55:45 You do what you got to do with the team you got. He did some great shit with the team that didn't. But that's not the question. The question is, would he have been him without him? Yes, because he's been him without them. I disagree. He's been him without the Heat coach. I disagree.

Starting point is 00:55:59 Okay, so tell me what you disagree with. I don't think he'd be the same player without that Miami experience Okay, so before that Miami experience show him a lot. So who was he then? He has a scoring title and assist champion I understand those accolades Understand all that doesn't matter So in the whole conversation is about being in Miami and winning those championships of his career would be so you didn't amount what? He said you're saying he'd be a champion though. You talk about individual accolades

Starting point is 00:56:23 I think individually LeBron was still... Just like they say, Kobe wouldn't win a championship without Shaq. He proved that wrong. Winners win. Champion, you're... But we have no way to prove this wrong though. This is something that's already happened. We're just saying if it didn't happen, he wouldn't be a top five

Starting point is 00:56:39 player in the NBA. No, we're considering... People consider him number one because of those championships, because of those MVPs, because of those things that he got. The MVPs was before that. He had two before that.

Starting point is 00:56:51 What if he went somewhere else? He has this before that. The finals MVPs? He has two finals MVPs without Miami. Yes. He has a finals MVP in Cleveland and a finals MVP in Laker.

Starting point is 00:57:02 We're talking about before, you're saying this. In the whole scheme of things. You just take out his stats out of Miami. Take his stats out of Miami and say, hey, you can have those, Shannon Sharp. So LeBron wasn't the Finals MVP in Miami? Yes.

Starting point is 00:57:14 That's four. So take two off. That's what I said. You just disagreed with me. No, I said four. You can take the two off. So with his stats, without Miami, just get rid of his Miami career.

Starting point is 00:57:25 Pretend he never went to Miami and then read his accolades. Well, we'd be considering him the goat Without the Miami wasn't that you're changing. I'm asking I'm not saying I'm asking you now. He's asking you now You agreed with Shannon sharp. He said he wouldn't be a top five player of all time without Miami in his time without Miami and his stats without Miami It's still number two You're not gonna take him off number two. Sorry Can't with the two trips and two finals two chips two finals. Yes

Starting point is 00:57:59 See that wasn't taking the question I was taking the question like if you don't consider the question like, if you don't consider Miami's situation, is he considered what we consider him now? Which is, they consider him the GOAT, the greatest player of all time. So if you take that out, would we still put him there? I don't think so. But that's not the question.

Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah, that's not the question. The top five question, I mean, shit. I mean, if that's the question, he could still be top five. Yeah, it's LeBron. But without the championships, it's like... But you got to think, like, if you take those championship years out,

Starting point is 00:58:29 are we replacing them? With what? We're just going to replace them with... No, we just get rid of it. You don't replace them. Yeah, we just get rid of it because what are we going to replace them with? More scoring?

Starting point is 00:58:38 Yeah, no, exactly. Because he's got a pass ball. Right, no. Isn't that what would happen anyway, right? Yeah. If he's not winning, he's just scoring? More individual accolades. Yeah, man. Another... Another MVP. No, isn't that what would happen anyway, right if he's not winning he's just going more act more individual But do we add chips to that could we remove that from the equation or do you know because we don't know you just take

Starting point is 00:58:53 The chips away you just take all the stats away. You take everything away. He still is just a Steel to yeah, no matter what you do. Nah. So, saying he's not top five. Nah, nah. He not two, though. He not two, though. No, no. Stop. Stop that.

Starting point is 00:59:10 Stop that. He not two now. Shit. Well, let me ask you this question. We talk about heat culture, right? We talk about it as language. And you said that, obviously, LeBron had a bigger impact on heat culture than heat culture had on LeBron. I'm just going off the facts.

Starting point is 00:59:27 So who has a better culture then? I'm just going off the facts, you know, before he got there. Where was the heat? Pat Riley's been there the whole time. Where was the heat culture? They was losing. Who has the better? They was losing.

Starting point is 00:59:39 Who has the better? Shaq got there. Shaq, Gary Payton, all of them got there. And then Pat Riley didn't convince Shaquille O'Neal to take a backseat to Dwyane Wade. That wasn't heat culture. Gary Payton had to tell him, yo, let young boy ride. Not Pat Riley. In the heat culture, it was Gary Payton.

Starting point is 00:59:59 I came here to win a championship. Do this for me, big bro. You can Google it. Gary Payton had to convince Shaquille O'Neal to take a backseat Do this for me, big bro. You can Google it. Gary Payton had to convince Shaquille O'Neal to take a backseat to Dwyane Wade. That's not Heat culture. They leave, we've seen Heat culture. 15, 30 something, lost, lost, lost, lost, lost first round. And then, hey, LeBron, hey, come on over here. Come to this Heat culture. Yeah, we're champions. And then do like he did before. He get egotistic

Starting point is 01:00:25 Right thinking he's bigger than everything LeBron leaves and we've seen what happens of he cultures But let's talk about his he culture quickly before we move on the next thing we had to roll right on this It wasn't this couch But on this very set Iggy on this very said Iggy said he would take about 95% Of what what he learned in the heat with him if he ever decided to get into that side. Mm-hmm But I gotta ask you this. We got Rashad here repping Wimby in the Spurs. Who has the better culture, heat culture or Spurs culture?

Starting point is 01:00:55 Spurs. And I've never been in any one of them, but I'm just going to go off of who's winning championship with the players that they're drafting and developing Spurs yeah I mean you know it's weird that they got you know three generational center signing you know coincidence just every center that's just like number one, it gets it. That is a crazy coincidence. Coincidence with the connection to Whibby that the ping pong balls bounced in their favor to be able to get them and I sent them to Houston or Portland or somewhere else.

Starting point is 01:01:34 I think Pop has the basketball gods on his side for sure. He's got mind control over Deebo. Oh, that's what they call it? The basketball gods? Oh, they call it a basketball god. I thought it was called rigged. My bad. Rigged? No, basketball god. I thought it was called rigged.

Starting point is 01:01:46 My bad. Rigged? No, basketball gods are better. Okay, that's what we're going to call it, the basketball gods. The basketball gods. The basketball gods. Disclaimer time, underdog fantasy does not support any of these players. But let's talk about Monday night. So LeBron dropped 30 points at 37 minutes against the Heat,

Starting point is 01:02:07 engineering a fourth-quarter comeback with AD on the bench with the hip spasm, the groin spasm, whatever Sean said he had. There we go. But it wasn't enough to get the dub. There we go. And Darvin Hamm is feeling some heat for drawing up a questionable play in the final moments of the game. So let's take a look.

Starting point is 01:02:21 Questionable play? So with the Lakers down one with nine seconds left. It wasn't questionable. It was a good play. It wasn't questionable. LeBron drove down the lane. I let's take a look. So with the Lakers down one with nine seconds left. It wasn't questionable. It was a good play. It wasn't questionable. I see. I see. Kicked it to Cam Reddish. Where was the questionable play? 4-3 Cam Reddish missed. Gil, Cam Reddish

Starting point is 01:02:35 is shooting 15%. Where's the questionable play? That looked like a great play. You're putting the fate of the game into the hands of a 15% shooter. Of a professional basketball player. Man, Darvin Ham didn't draw up past the ball

Starting point is 01:02:50 a damn cam reddish in the corner. No, he did not. That was in the play-to-play with zipper up and take. And go take it to the room. I saw the, you saw the picture of the board? What'd you see? You see the picture of the board? It's on Twitter. I didn't see it.

Starting point is 01:03:03 That was what it was. That was real or not? No, I mean. It was to pass him to the corner. It was not to pass to the corner. That's of the board? It's on Twitter. I didn't see it. That was what it was. It was to pass them to the corner. It was not to pass to the corner. That's what the board said. No, it didn't say, we're going to drive. And then you might have a wide layup. There was a straight line from the paint to the corner.

Starting point is 01:03:16 Really? Circle? How many? They're down what? One. Yeah. No, you're not shooting the three. Down one. Lexi, was it on? Lexi. It was on Twitter. But again, you can not shooting a three. Down one.

Starting point is 01:03:25 Lexi, was it on? Lexi. It was on Twitter, but again, you can't play. Who drew that up? I seen it. I seen it too. It's all right. Because people be playing games on Twitter too much.

Starting point is 01:03:33 That could have been at any time of the game. At 925. Rewind it. Let's break down this play. Go rewind this, man. Put it in slow. At 925, you was at. All right, zippers up.

Starting point is 01:03:43 Boom. Now, stop. Okay. Okay, first was at... All right, zippers up. Boom. Now, stop. Okay. Okay, first of all, Austin Reeves, get your ass down to the corner. In the fucking corner, nigga.

Starting point is 01:03:53 Bro, you already messed the play up. Fucking the play up. Right? Unless, that's where he was instructed to do it. No, no, no, no.

Starting point is 01:03:59 Because I wanted to throw it over there. You get down, you get down to the, you get down all the way to the corner so your man can't help. His man is helping at the frito line, which forces LeBron to pick the ball up earlier. With that being said, because he has to dodge that dude, Jimmy Butler punches at the ball, too.

Starting point is 01:04:20 Makes him pick the ball up. Now, he don't have the power he has because he has to pick his stride up even faster. Now, Bam, right here, he wouldn't have got that shot over Bam. So that only pass was, right, he going to hit it. Look, see, he made them pick it up too early. Yeah, Austin needed to get in that corner. And anything with Christian Will right there, I know. Watch, look, Jimmy makes him pick it up, and then here, bam, stops it.

Starting point is 01:04:48 But what I'm saying is... I mean, he could have dumped it down to Christian Wood. Inside position right there, but it looks easier on tape. I mean, that's a sound basketball play. Yeah, that's definitely... I got to agree. But are you trusting... I understand the play, but are you trusting the personnel?

Starting point is 01:05:04 Yeah. Like, Gil, if you're out there, and obviously you're Gil, so you want four flat and you're shooting, I understand the play, but are you trusting the personnel? Yeah. Like Gil, if you're out there, obviously you're Gil, so you want four flat and you're shooting, I understand. But you see Cam Reddish there, you know he's a 15% shooter from three this season. Let it fly, young fella. Let it fly, young fella. Not shoot zero for him. Hey, listen, this is basketball.

Starting point is 01:05:18 You are a professional basketball player. This is basketball. I ain't thinking 15%, I'm thinking, man, you better shoot that shit when I pass it to you, bro. No thoughts. Put it up, bro. For real. If you make it, you make it. You miss it, you miss it, bro.

Starting point is 01:05:31 Hey, go back again. I need that. I wonder why they didn't put Austin Reeves over there, though. Because you wanted Austin on his strong side. So he can stay close to Austin. All right. All right. That's a good shot.

Starting point is 01:05:44 If he would have just threw it up, I'm pretty sure... You think he had time to make an extra pass? Yeah, it was four seconds left. He was close to

Starting point is 01:05:51 Can't make the one more to... Oh, he could have... Oh, no, because he... No, what I'm saying is if he would have shot that, Christian Woods probably would have had a rebound.

Starting point is 01:06:01 Yeah, see, he didn't get enough lift. He didn't get enough lift. Yeah. He didn't get enough lift. I mean, Christian Woods is the only other option, but like I said, it looks good on tape and looks easy to make that play Hey, he didn't get a flip. There's no other play to make no but to the cam and not to not pass in the Wood right there. Oh cameras only that's the put pitch down. They probably defile or hit the ball out of bounds

Starting point is 01:06:19 It's a it's a bad pass if you try to give it a Christian Christian. Yeah It's a bad play. It's the give it to Christian. Christian, yeah. That play. That's a bad play. That's an only Jason kid play. That's a Jake kid play. And you got to dunk that bitch as soon as he catches. So it's like Christian got slow. Throw that bitch to Cam.

Starting point is 01:06:33 And think about the personnel who's in the game. Of course you want Austin in that position, but Cam Reddish is in to shoot threes. And it should be pointed out, D-Lo was ejected earlier in the fourth quarter. They only had, I think, six players available at that point. Because, listen, if Darvin Ham did draw

Starting point is 01:06:49 that play and that was the play, that's how I know it was a Darvin Ham play because there's no way if that's the play, you're going to have your best three-point shooter there. But he's going to have his best shooter on his right hand.

Starting point is 01:07:07 Because if he helps like he did, he can just dish it. But he was just too far down. This is a harder pass. This is an easier pass. I'm going right. Somebody goes and I can just hit right here. For sure. Versus going and then now I got to find you. Now I got to find my best three-point shooter.

Starting point is 01:07:22 So when he's coming, he's looking like, okay, okay, now he's throwing it. He probably said, damn. But they down one, remember? So the play is for LeBron to just go get a bucket. Yeah, I mean, that's what I imagine it would be. I think, like Gil said, he had to pick his dribble up because Austin was in the wrong position, number one, and then Jimmy being able to poke at it.

Starting point is 01:07:41 I think that LeBron could have made a move iso just at that time. I think LeBron should have held the ball for like a second. Yeah, a second more. Because he didn't even give Austin time to get to the corner. Yeah. Because he just took off. Wait, can we watch it one more time, please, just for our own? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:07:54 Because. Oh, yeah, it's eight seconds left. Yeah. Nine seconds. Wait, one, two, yeah. But Austin had no sense of urgency to get to that corner. Austin probably got to get there quicker, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:08:06 Okay. I don't think it was a bad play. I just don't think Bron was trying to get a bucket right there. I don't think he was trying to get a bucket. That type of pass? No way. He was trying to pass it. Let me see.

Starting point is 01:08:18 Yeah, he was. He already looking. See, yeah, that. They drew that. Nah. They drew that. That looked like it, right? That, that, that defense, that defense, um, he probably knew at that point he couldn't

Starting point is 01:08:31 take Jimmy off the dribble. So he's trying to, it looks like he is trying to probe, and then that extra, that extra body there kind of, like, made him more, like, he's, all right, and then, okay, big hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He makes that shot. It's the greatest play ever. It's always like that. It didn't look like that.

Starting point is 01:08:49 And, I mean, LeBron has received this criticism throughout his career, making the right basketball play versus people wanting him to be more aggressive and just try and get a bucket like other stars may have in that position. But this is his game. It's year 21. He ain't changing. Let's talk a little bit about AD. So AD hurt his hip second quarter, tried to come back out in the third quarter, wasn't feeling right, so ended up missing the rest of his game. It's year 21. He ain't changing. Let's talk a little bit about A.D. A.D. hurt his hip second quarter, tried to come back out in the third quarter.

Starting point is 01:09:07 Wasn't feeling right, so ended up missing the rest of the game. A.D. said he expects to be available for the Lakers' next game on Wednesday at the Rockets. That was after the game Monday. It remains to be seen. This season, he's playing nearly 37 minutes a game, which is a career high. The Lakers do a better job of managing AD and as an extension of that, LeBron's minutes for the long-term success of the team this season? The success of the team if you manage their minutes?

Starting point is 01:09:36 You're going to... What's the best ability? If you want to win, there's no managing minutes. What's the best ability, though? I guess the question is... Either win and don't manage or... LeBron's been playing a ton of fourth quarter minutes, like not coming out the

Starting point is 01:09:47 game, and that's fine for now, but two, three months down the road, is that going to be an issue? Man, fuck that. Garvin Ham. YOLO. Garvin Ham, you better do, this is your job on the line, 48 minutes. You better start calling timeouts the way

Starting point is 01:10:03 you need them timeouts to be called. Yep, utilize them. Stop trying. Every three minutes is a TV timeout. Shit. Now you, hey, you got timeouts. Just use them. Every minute and a half, timeout.

Starting point is 01:10:15 Timeout. Timeout. Let's go. It was at 10.30. Timeout. Take a rest. Mm-hmm. Nine minute TV timeout.

Starting point is 01:10:24 There we go. Get your ass up. 7.45, timeout. Get your ass up. TV timeout. It's time to go play, man. It's time to play. You call your timeouts, trust me, ain't nobody going to break no goddamn sweat. Come on, man. Yeah. But you called it, though.

Starting point is 01:10:36 AD then got hurt already. That's why I'm just knowing the track record where ad as well these last few seasons We just had a whole conversation on handing the keys over first option second option third You think LeBron James is looking at this nigga like I'm about to be second or third to him What did he know his hip? What did he do with his hip? So apparently hip spasms his belt spasms His belt was too tight. He took a knee from a bam out of Bob. I believe yeah, his belt was too tight. He took a knee from Bam Adebayo, I believe. Yeah, his belt was too tight. Second quarter, he was shaking up.

Starting point is 01:11:08 Tried to come back out third quarter. He got a waist trainer. He played with a waist trainer. All right, all right. God, please. He played with a waist trainer and stuff. This is what we're going to do. You're not rocking with the Lakers anymore?

Starting point is 01:11:19 This is what we're going to do. Dwayne Wade, can you please DM this dude every item you had on your body to play in the NBA game? He had hip pads, elbow pads, knee pads, shin pads, thigh pads, rib pads, vinyl, back, booty pad. I mean, he had hamstrings. He had a neck brace. Just wear the cup.

Starting point is 01:11:43 Eye pads. Yeah, yeah. An eye pad. You couldn't hit Dwyane Wade strings where you had a neck brace You could hit the way way without hitting some type of crystal Like come on man. Come just give him the list put the shit on man. Put it on your knees the back of your knees Yeah Fuck is hitting me hip. Come on man. You are the tallest dude on the did what what leave him alone? He gonna cry in the car. Hip?

Starting point is 01:12:07 Leave him alone. You got hit in the hip? But when it eased? Yeah. It was a knee. You used to get hit with them shits all the time. A knee? But a sharp knee to the hip.

Starting point is 01:12:18 AD. Being consistently inconsistent. I mean, he's been doing well, too. He's been playing so good. He gonna get better? Like he said, he already got doing well, too. He's been playing so good. No, man. He's going to get better. Like he said, he already got a time.

Starting point is 01:12:29 He said he was going to play Wednesday. But Wednesday is not here. I'm going to take a couple games off. No game tonight, obviously. Make sure y'all go vote. I don't know who's trying to get elected, but go ahead and get it. I'm going to take a couple games off. I'll be back. But this is what we talked about even last

Starting point is 01:12:45 season, and obviously after the trade deadline it changed, but you got games like this, they tricked one to the magic, they're only four on the road this season.

Starting point is 01:12:52 Lost to the Heat who were struggling. Very winnable game. Now you got to go to Houston. Very winnable game. But you don't want to put yourself in a

Starting point is 01:12:59 position where you trick off these games that you're counting on and not put your back against the wall later in the season and have to do the same shit that you did later. It's over. I mean, as we're climbing, this is

Starting point is 01:13:10 what I was, you know, complaining to the NBA for. Like, you know, that first game, you fucked us up, man. You're giving us the champs early, man. Why you couldn't give us like, you know, the magic first? Let me set the tone for us. Give us Memphis you know the magic first Right give us the good set the top, but I give us

Starting point is 01:13:26 Give us Memphis Grizzlies But that's what I said I said that's how it usually works you get hit right and then you you start losing the team's Earlies these teams start winning they have all this confidence because they're playing bottom feeding teams, too Yeah, right So you get this confidence early when you have a favorable schedule like you get you get hit with that same thing with sons Think about think about two teams as champion. They both lost that first game and in design Yeah, you're struggling. Yeah. Yeah, you're struggling Yeah

Starting point is 01:14:02 And what ends up happening is later in the season when everybody get all their motor now You're playing against harder teams trying them trying to rev that engine And you know, I'm gonna get the Dallas Mavericks schedule it seems like we have this combo We have this combo we know the Brian's relationship, clutch brothers to the end. But does it come a point now if you're the Lakers where you even start to ponder potential options? AD's only what, 31? I think 30, about to be 31.

Starting point is 01:14:36 31. Yeah, he's really young. You can't even do, my, they stuck. Stuck what? With that money they just gave him? I mean, 31? He's 30, he'll be 31 in March. They stuck Stuck what? With that money they just gave me You still I mean 30 31. He's 30. It'd be 31 in March told y'all He's gonna come in and do it the fuck he wouldn't do I

Starting point is 01:14:52 Want some babies game that 186 you to be honest I mean at this point he probably has the true power on the team. I do it fuck alone He has a true power. I mean you're 31 That dude fuck I won't hear me I say well fuck I won't you hear me. I got me you talk about what you There's you can't trade them. There was that it'd be a dumb trade. Mm-hmm Whatever you're trading for to be dumb And be done it up What are you training for to be dumb? Embiid, straight up. Straight up, Bill Moore!

Starting point is 01:15:27 Embiid, straight up. Bill Moore, get home to get it. Embiid, stay up. Because he's younger than Embiid. Even through all his stuff, his issues, his injuries, he's still one of the best at his position. Before that game Monday night, he had the highest odds of winning Defensive Player of the Year.

Starting point is 01:15:47 I'm just saying, the way he was the year You talked about a me consistently inconsistent there's no he bounced back with good games in a row defeat. Okay, so I Think this is the problem Defensively, he is consistent Right. He's he's consistent because that's what he does. We want we want to be more offensively like we won't we need I Know you want to play defense. That's cool, but we need you more offensively. We need you more like Michael Jordan and Then Scottie Pippen style we need you Michael Jordan style. We need you to be more of the you know 24 to 30 type of dude every single ad for m straight up. Straight up. Hey, send the fucking paperwork in. AD for Yannis.

Starting point is 01:16:28 You hear me? Straight up. Let's do that. What? Ooh, that's nasty. They're not doing that. I'm just kidding. Milwaukee ain't stupid. I'm just pissing off one of the producers of this show.

Starting point is 01:16:43 Because I know he's luxury. I think they should consider it. Would you trade him for... M-B-A-D, straight up. Kati... That would be... Would you trade him for Carl Anthony Thompson? Towns, every town.

Starting point is 01:16:59 I'm sorry. Oh, my God. My cousin. I'm sorry. Carl Anthony Thompson. Carl Anthony Thompson. That's a fucking actor. You said something earlier in the show too.

Starting point is 01:17:08 Celebritizing or celebrity-nizing or something. I didn't say nothing like that. AD for Kat straight up? No. Absolutely not. Kat and Rudy? Ooh, both of them? Just give us the AD.

Starting point is 01:17:20 Yeah, give us Anthony. Nasty. That's an AD to the... It's hard, man. He's 30. 30 would actually be OD. 30, he still has seven dominant years. Yeah, you can't get rid of that.

Starting point is 01:17:34 I mean, obviously, and I'm just kind of... I'm backstuck. AD, we good. I'm joking. You're going to be here for a long time, AD. You good. MB, straight up, I'll do it. But knowing every... Too lazy. Damn, straight up, I'll do it. But knowing every... No. Too lazy.

Starting point is 01:17:47 Damn, he still got LeBron. The Lakers dilemma is such, right? You need AD and Bron to be out there, right? You need them to be playing 35 to 37 minutes a game. But you also know if you play AD 37 minutes a game... This is going to happen. Man, no, because none of his injuries is fucking like... They're not considered work-related.

Starting point is 01:18:06 Day-to-day, day, day to day. It's not like he's taking some real hits in the game. It'd be some bullshit. Pinky toe. He done shot the ball all right. He done shot the ball, turned around, got poked in the eye. Like, God damn. He done tried to shoot me in my pinky toe.

Starting point is 01:18:19 He got need in his hip. He tried to shoot me in my pinky toe. Like, you ain't playing against Draymond Green. How the fuck you get hit in your hip? Come on, man. Bam out of bio. I know, but your hip, it's not... So let's talk about the other team in Los Angeles.

Starting point is 01:18:35 James Harden made his Clipper debut in the Garden on Monday night, but the Clipper Big Four took a big L to the Knicks in the Big Apple. Harden was rusty in his first game match of the season. Over points. Over assists. He got over assists too. I'm about to give y'all love. I'm about to give y'all love.

Starting point is 01:18:51 Under shot attempts. He did that. He said that. Shot attempts. I didn't say shot attempts. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. Yes, you did.

Starting point is 01:18:57 You said over shot attempts. I don't believe it. He said, I don't believe it. I don't give a fuck what y'all saying to my ear. People lie every day. People lie every day, B day be I thought he was gonna shoot the rock more I blame Tyler shit Mother want to facilitate

Starting point is 01:19:15 So hard was fussy rusty in his first game actually the season after missing most of training camp all the preseason with the Sixers 17.6 assists in 31 minutes of action Did a lot of his damage with that second unit. So like I said, you predicted Harden would go higher on the 5.5 assists

Starting point is 01:19:30 on the underdog pick and would you say he'd go higher on the points, the 14.5? Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, me.

Starting point is 01:19:38 I fucked up. Yeah, you did. That's why, don't listen to me for any underdog fantasy advice. Or maybe I'm just lying to y'all because I want y'all to lose. You asked me about somebody the other day, and I told you something, and right when I got a card, I was like, no, he's not going to do that tonight.

Starting point is 01:19:53 I think it was like Will Levis or somebody. He said he was going to do that tonight. Oh, no, it was Derek Hamill. He's not going to do that tonight. Yeah, I lost, too. I wasn't going to hit you, but y'all be fucking with me, so I had to get y'all back. So after the game, Harden gave an honest assessment of his performance. He said, I feel kind of weird out there, not really having a preseason game

Starting point is 01:20:12 or an opportunity to participate in a full training camp. None of that. We're just out there basically winging it. So thoughts on Harden's first game with the Clipper. I guess that's fair. That's the last six years y'all been winging it. Shit.

Starting point is 01:20:28 I mean, we call it a system, but it's winging it. That's winging it for sure. I mean, shit, James, you the one

Starting point is 01:20:34 didn't go to training camp and didn't show up. I mean, what the fuck are we talking about here? Your own actions. What the fuck are we talking about?

Starting point is 01:20:42 Nigga, you the one didn't. You did it. I'm done. It's going to take a you the one that did it. You did it. I'm done. It's going to take a few games, though. Come on, James, stop it. We know that. We knew that.

Starting point is 01:20:49 He looked decent. I liked his movement. I liked the way he was out there getting his shot off. And I think even defensively, he looked like he wanted to kind of just play. You know what I'm saying? He was ready to hoop. I like that. It's just meshing them four together trying to figure out

Starting point is 01:21:05 When Russ has the ball in the post I just seen a lot of standing on the weak side Which is weird to see all of them just standing on the weak side and no one's moving and it's like the three of them That's standing. It's like they don't got the ball and they're watching Russ do his thing We're okay like it on your coaching staff Some of you guys like I've been doing breakdowns. On your coaching staff, what the fuck are y'all teaching when players don't have the ball? Stan. When they don't have the ball, you're not teaching them to, like, move, cut.

Starting point is 01:21:41 Like, I tell all my kids, listen, If a guy turns his head, cut him. Every time. Front cut him. Back up. If he's coming too low, right, butt to the baseline, cut in front of him. If he's too high, you know, back door. Play with him. Like, do something.

Starting point is 01:21:56 Exchange on the weak side. Yes, up and down. Where is the movement? They just be sitting there. Bro, it's so weird. And then half of the offense now, they're standing there by half court. Absolutely. Like, the fuck I'm going to pass it to you over there?

Starting point is 01:22:09 What you going to do with it? Get it? Right? Pump fake. No one's going for the pump fake out there. Then you're going to dribble up, no shot, give it back to me to go back up. No. Put you guys, put yourselves in shooting position. Now I see why Sacramento was as high as they were last year.

Starting point is 01:22:29 Number two, yeah. They know how to move. They move all the time. Without the ball. They know how to move without the ball, so they're going to get buckets that you're not even accounting for. Every other team, they're just sitting there. Everyone's just standing.

Starting point is 01:22:39 They're trying to go five-out offense with five-out defense, like Shell. You know how hard it was to score on shell defense? What? That's. What? You can't get off until you get a stop. Get a stop. You got to get a stop.

Starting point is 01:22:54 We did that yesterday. You're helping the defense. Yeah, coach, can somebody cut through? Nope. Nope. Nobody can cut through. Denied. Denied.

Starting point is 01:23:01 Denied. And that's what this looks like, man. Like, yo, y'all got to move without the ball. Bro, that's why I'm critical of the talent today, because when you see that, they just standing on the weak side. Nobody's doing, not even exchanging. Usually, when we, like, say Gilbert has his ice on the weak side, we got to exchange just to move the defense. I want to be able to say if my man's the low guy and Gilbert drives and he got to take the charge on the weak side block,

Starting point is 01:23:33 I'm going to move up as high as I can just to make sure that he got to be, oh, shit, I'm supposed to be low, but I'm going high. So he got to stay with me. You got to play a game, but there's none of that. There's none of that and it's it's frustrating to watch because now players who can play one-on-one basketball are limited It's harder now Like like when I was talking about Jason Tatum, right? You that's hard That is hard. You're screwed. It's that is hard basketball what you're doing

Starting point is 01:24:02 then you have to sit here and do all these moves because you have the ball on the wing, right? There's a guy at the top and a guy in the corner, right? So that means there's help defense on both sides. So that means you have to jig a little bit here, go here, then step back in this little space. When if one guy just cuts through, you can get him with the back. If not, you have all this new space now. Now guy just cuts through, you can get him with the back of a knife. You have all this new space now. Now you can just straight line him.

Starting point is 01:24:29 Because the only thing that's making you change direction is the help defense. It ain't your guy, it's the help defense where you gotta go, because you gotta half-ass go to get him to move here so you can cut. I got the help, I got the help, I got the help. Bring him this way, bring him this way. Right here.

Starting point is 01:24:44 That's how I played. Like I I got the help. Bring him this way. Bring him this way. Right here. That's how I played. Like, I'm on the ISO. As soon as my guy cuts through or exchange, that means the defense that was there has to relocate. As soon as he's in the middle of his relocate, got to go. And I'm talking to you on the weak side. I'm saying, hey, my man, hey, he not helping. He not helping. He helping.

Starting point is 01:25:03 He not helping. Hey, if he's helping, I'm going to knock him dead. Swing it over here, I got him. He's not helping. Not helping. Like, everybody just sitting there just. Yeah. I mean, I see my teammate, if she's on the wing, I'm in the corner, I see her trying to go, I just cut right through the baseline.

Starting point is 01:25:19 They don't see you ever. Yeah. And then sometimes I'll get that shot because my man stays to help, and then now I have the shot. Like they don't, like. It's cut. It's so, like I said, it's like so easy. Think about it, y'all.

Starting point is 01:25:33 When you're on the ISO, your teammate who's playing defense, the guy who's playing defense, he don't know what his teammates are doing. So he don't know where to push him. Only you can see. So if your guy's cut through, boom, boom. He's reacting to what you're doing. So you need to learn how to cut, backdoor, slide, fake like you're about to set a screen, slice off. You know what this sounds like?

Starting point is 01:25:58 This sounds like college practice. Right? When you're doing shell drill and what he's saying. It's like even offense, defense aside, if the defense is doing it the right way, we're saying, I got your help. I'm in the middle. I'm on the nail. Make him drive, make him drive, which is going to frustrate him because now offensively, we got to talk. Cut through, I'm cutting through, cutting through. I got your pick, right side, right side, come and pick right, all that kind of stuff. Now you got a team going back

Starting point is 01:26:23 and forth in the practice. It's like both sides locked in. When you go play in a game, you know that these teams are either going to be prepared for that or not. And if they're not, we're going to eat their ass up. We're going to eat their ass up because we know what we're doing, but they don't teach that no more as what we just seen. Everybody's sitting on the weak side with the Clippers.

Starting point is 01:26:45 We're talking about the Clippers, some of the most talented players in the world on one team sitting on the weak side with the Clippers. We're talking about the Clippers. Some of the most talented players in the world on one team sitting on the weak side. So Ty Lue talked a lot about sacrifice. All the players in that big four are going to have to make some sacrifices this season for the team to get where they need to be. Paul George said he's coming into the season, he's going to be on his bully shit. Has been doing that.

Starting point is 01:27:01 Monday night, two for 11 from the field, 10 points. 34 minutes. 11 shots. I mean, that's... 11 isos is very hard, right? That is 11 isos versus a few back doors, a few Paul Pierce cuts, right?

Starting point is 01:27:24 You know, like, think about the weak side. Well, you know what the weak side defense used to be so scared of? Duck-ins. Yes, sir. The worst. Duck-ins. Because you're helping, right? You're sitting here helping, and you don't know, like,

Starting point is 01:27:39 they're going to swing you here, and you just got pinned. Big man. Big man just pinned you because you're helping. And they're like, all right, he's helping too much. We're going to pin him here, or we're pinned. Big man. Big man just pinned you because you're helping. And they're like, alright, he's helping too much. We're going to pin him here or we're going to duck in. The offense knew how to play without the ball. These guys are training so

Starting point is 01:27:53 much with the ball in the summer that they don't know how to move when they don't have it. That gives me goosebumps bro because that's just, that's what we're missing in the game. Like if I'm a point guard I'm training like a shooting guard in the game like if i'm a point guard i'm i'm i'm training like a shooting guard in the summer if i if i'm the main point guard and i'm training like i'm training like i'm clay thompson if i'm clay thompson i'm gonna be training like i'm curry

Starting point is 01:28:18 or a day like you do the opposite so you can fill the voids of each other. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Like watching, watching, watching Golden State play is actually beautiful basketball. Yeah. Yeah. They never stop moving. Never. They're playing for each other.

Starting point is 01:28:38 The flare screens on the weak side. Flare screens. Like it's like you're just sitting there like, man, this is beautiful basketball. We had it in college. Freelance basketball. Freelance. We called it three game. Freelance basketball. Freelance. We called it three game. Pass freestyle.

Starting point is 01:28:48 Do your thing. Play together. It's like pick up when you really trying to get some bump, right? Like, we not just out here on some one-on-one. We actually out here pin down, weak side. Everybody's really bumping. So, I could see it. I mean, it's one of those things where you yearn for it as a hooper to be able to go out there and free flow I mean I think three games well we play yeah y'all don't have no play y'all foot y'all played it like three game shit right yeah yeah like

Starting point is 01:29:12 there's like this this action like even even when there's a two-man game like two-man game these guys I have a two-man game and then there's three people on the baseline just sitting there tripping like man that's a three-man game like y'all faking offense, switch, you're back, you're playing. You're just fucking doing nothing over there. But do something, but don't do nothing. Bro.

Starting point is 01:29:32 And then shot go up, one of y'all get back. They're just sitting, like, there's guys sitting at that, man, I've seen guys sitting at the half, the half court mark. Like, why does your guy guard you out there? He's sitting there like, your man is helping, you're so far away from the shot get to the three-point line get to the actual three-point line Like get to the three-point like right here stand right there, right? So if your man help and he helped too much when I pass it to you can actually shoot right you know

Starting point is 01:29:59 Take two dribbles to get close to the free throw line. now he got back. That's why watching Denver is so amazing. Because when Joker has the ball, they're moving. Cut, cut, cut. Backdoor slash, lob. So it's the Warriors and Denver and SAC because they all have willing passers. So you talk about the Warriors' beautiful

Starting point is 01:30:19 basketball, I'll tell you about the Nuggets, but in just looking at this Clippers side, how tough is that on the defense to not only have to guard that, but now I'm guarding that all game, getting tired by the fourth quarter versus now I'm doing this shit with the Clippers where you're just going to stand in the corner. I really like to do shit. What I'm saying is, like, think about it.

Starting point is 01:30:35 If you're guarding a main player and you have helped defense on both sides and no one's cutting, as a defensive player, you can pick up. We zoning. We zoning. This is zoning. Nobody's moving. All your job is do not let them straight line you.

Starting point is 01:30:54 Period. That's it. Don't let them straight line you. That's your only goal. Versus, oh, shit, I got to really lock down because there's no help. Right. I know I got help on the baseline.

Starting point is 01:31:02 I know I got help, but just don't straight line me. Right, right. And those used to be our whole assignment defensively when I was playing in the league was don't get straight line drive. Don't let the ball go middle.

Starting point is 01:31:13 Yep. That's it. Don't straight. And if you're at the top, I need to hear left or right. Yep, push them left or right. I need to hear it, big man. What you doing?

Starting point is 01:31:22 If you don't hear none, straight up. I got to stay in front. Stay in front. Don't foul. Play defense without fouling like that So said I'm an offensive player and that's I think I think sometimes when because I'm an offensive player people think that I don't know defense Understand this I have to know defense like an expert to manipulate the defense. We got to be there I have to know the rules to a tee to know how to score against it. So I know if I'm below the free throw line, you have to push me baseline because your defense is set up to go over.

Starting point is 01:31:57 So I'm not going to go below the free throw line until I'm ready to go because I know your guy's not there. If I'm above the free throw line, you have to play me straight up with no going middle. Once I'm going, now I'm manipulating how the defense is because you don't know. You just know

Starting point is 01:32:15 if I get to a certain spot, you have to shift. I'm going to go. Certain spot you shift, I'm taking off. Soon as you do this, I'm gone. I have to know defense the best to score on it. You know you cold when you literally analyze the game from a, how would I guard this? This is

Starting point is 01:32:31 where the, like you ain't, to me it ain't never been about accolades and all that. It's been what you know about the game of basketball. Like what do you know about scoring? Being a real scorer. Like can you prove it? Can you show it? So for me, I've always been that guy to collaborate with other scorers and shooters and see how they shoot and what they focus on and all that kind of stuff. I think it's the most important part of the game. But when you are a scorer,

Starting point is 01:32:53 you have to know the defense. Like, that's a pride thing for us too. It's like, I need to know how many counters I need for tonight. So coach, I need us to go through the pick and roll progression all the way through. All the different coverages, we need to know them. Because I need to now assess my game around how they're going to play us tonight. But if you have coached it, now my preparation is going to be, I got to go into my bag when I need to in real time, instead of knowing that, all right, they're going to double me at some point off this pick and roll at the top. I'm going to be, I got two passes here. But if we're not prepping on it and I don't know about it, man,

Starting point is 01:33:27 it's different. So you guys, let's just pretend like you, Ty Lue, how are you approaching this Clippers offense with this big four to get the most out of this team? Like, I'm going to have concepts, right? And I have four special type players, meaning for you guys to do what you're doing. If you still want to be on beast mode, you need this. We need to be moving

Starting point is 01:33:54 faster. So that means we need to get the ball out. We should be trying to score 130. If you guys all want to have your numbers, we need to be trying to score 130. So that means we're going to have to get in shape a little bit more. When we have the ball, whichever one of y'all got the ball, we're pushing. Drag it. We're pushing it. Drag it. Move. Cut.

Starting point is 01:34:17 Like, I'm dragging it. Now you guys looking at me back door. All day. If not, you guys hanging too much. Come get the handoff. Triple handoff. Like, we didn't even have, like, it was part of our office,

Starting point is 01:34:28 but players knew. Shawty, if I come to you, and then I go and then turn my back and then spin back to you, you knew backdoor. You know it's backdoor. Backdoor automatic. Boom, boom. Okay. He has a guy that's overaggressive. Alright, I'm about to backdoor. Boom.

Starting point is 01:34:43 Now, if he's sagging, hand off. It's read. One, two, three. It's read. You have to be able to read. So, Ty Lue, you need to be really telling these guys, read and play and move. Do not stand. You're standing like trees.

Starting point is 01:35:00 That's the easiest thing to guard is a plant. I ain't got to do nothing. Like a defensive player. I ain't got to do nothing. Right? Woo! Like a defensive player. Right? I ain't got to guard it. Hey, you just here for defense. I got your help. I got your help. I got a non-shooter over here.

Starting point is 01:35:15 But Lex, you know just like I know, that's just called when a coach tells you, be a basketball player. Yeah. This is going to take some time. They have to get used to playing on the same team. This is one game. But I said, they ain't going to get it together until after

Starting point is 01:35:32 All-Star break. It's going to take a little bit. That's the advantage for them. They're all basketball players at the end of the day. I think at that point when they get it, they're like, all right. And they need to watch film. I think they need to see it. One game, but they did have four days off heading into this game So you would expect it to be a little bit more tightened up

Starting point is 01:35:48 But obviously they've got the rest of the season to figure it out when James gonna use that excuse as I Ain't have a training camp. I'm trying to warm up. So you're gonna give them 20 games In 20 games and after that at that point you got 20 games. Yeah Let's keep this thing moving and hit y'all with some hibachi time. Hey. Hibachi time.

Starting point is 01:36:11 Okay. Okay. So some thought the Sixers would struggle without Harden in the aftermath of the blockbuster trade, but the Embiid-Maxie duo look solid so far.

Starting point is 01:36:23 We're going to have some context in a second, but let's just talk about Embiid. He dropped 48 on the Wizards Dome and only three quarters. Wow. Including 29. Okay, I'm confused here. What are the Wizards doing? Why him and Ben Simmons never did pig and rolls like this? There we go, big fella. Absolute beast mode. It has to be mentioned, though, it is the Wizards. See, that's like moving.

Starting point is 01:36:48 Hey, look at that. I love when he plays like that. Huh? I love when he plays like that. I was going to say, that's moving. He's got like a little motor. It is the Wizards, and they have been the team that people patted their stats on so far this season.

Starting point is 01:36:59 But he did drop 40-ish. You got to give him his love, 29 and 3 quarters. Sixers won their fifth straight game, 5-1 this season, tied for first in the Eastern Conference. But now here's the context. Lost to the Bucs, I believe, in the season opener. Five wins have come against the Raptors twice, Blazers, Suns, and Wizards. Why we couldn't get that at the league?

Starting point is 01:37:19 So the question for you guys, is the Sixers five-game winning streak fool's gold? No. It's called perfect scheduling They could have very like with all that James Harden drama They could have lost those games me they tightened up in one of those games because they needed to they winning the games They're supposed to win. That's that's all you can that they're winning the games It's supposed to win like you said they write it up before the season start know which games they should win. We should take these first seven I guarantee I guarantee you if you ask the coaching staff What did you think your record would be right now?

Starting point is 01:37:55 I guarantee this when we have yeah, cuz there's no way you looked at that schedule was like, all right, but maybe Maybe man, maybe. Man, maybe. You know, maybe. You know. But win. Toronto win. You know, they lost so many players.

Starting point is 01:38:12 Win. They giving away win. They giving away win. What does the Wizards got? Win. We got this. Who they got next, though? I was going to get to that.

Starting point is 01:38:22 Give me one second. Yeah. So, Celtics. Ooh. Tomorrow. Ooh. Tomorrow. Lost. In Boston? It don't matter.

Starting point is 01:38:31 In Philly. I'll give you the next five. Boston been fucking... At home versus Boston. At Detroit on Friday. Win. Two games versus the Pacers next Sunday and Tuesday. Then back at home versus Boston Wednesday.

Starting point is 01:38:44 Lost. Win-win. Win-win. Win-win. Win-win. It might be 10-3. For real. For real. Let's go.

Starting point is 01:38:53 MVP. But you see how scheduling like puts you in the forefront just that fast. You got to take care of business though. That's it. If you take care of business

Starting point is 01:39:03 you can end up 10-2. Yeah, 10-2. Like, if you get Boston this first game at home, which is going to be hard because Boston, they know how to play and beat. He's not. They've had the Western. But if you can. But going into the game, like, with the spirit you guys have, this is a winnable game. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:39:23 Right? This is not, you know, this is a winnable game. This is a winnable game at home. Five game winning streak. This is a winnable game. For sure. You can come out of here, in their minds, we split this Boston series.

Starting point is 01:39:38 So if they win one of these next two against the Celtics. You're just trying to split it. I basically give, I don't want to say more, but that team some now wiggle room, keep it beat, happy. Look, Joel, we're killing right now, but... Listen, you know, starting off right now... We don't need no harding!

Starting point is 01:39:54 Starting off 10-2, 10-3, I mean... Feeling good. You're good. Yeah, I think so. It's the beginning. Everybody's happy. Everybody's feeling good, you know. But that's how you get your good average up early on. You get some good early points up. Maxing, shit. You just maintain for the rest of the season. Nigga everybody's feeling good. That's how you get your good average up, early on. You get some good early points up, you just maintain for the rest of the season.

Starting point is 01:40:09 Nigga, you good. Maintain. You gotta talk about how important those first 10, 20 games are for a team. And just like you said, winnable games, but they could've easily tricked off some of those games and not been five and one right now, and then we'd be having a different conversation

Starting point is 01:40:23 on this couch. So, interesting to see that it's worked out like that for him, but let's head back to the Western Conference. Got to talk about Ant-Man. So, before the season, Anthony Edwards changed his jersey number and predicted his game would take a leap, getting his favorite number back.

Starting point is 01:40:41 Ant-Man has lived up to that promise so far this season. No. I don't like season. Wait. Gosh. No. I don't like it. No. I don't like it either. What's the issue?

Starting point is 01:40:51 Can't even read? Hm? Isn't that the ticket number? No. Yeah, it was for Boston. Oh. Yeah, not for there. He's 21.

Starting point is 01:41:00 Oh, yeah, 21. I'm tripping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm 21. Relax. Relax. Frank, this is how dumb I'm tripping. Relax, relax. This is how dumb I am. The jersey's right there.

Starting point is 01:41:12 The jersey's right there. Yeah, damn dumb. Autograph. He autographed it. It looked like you folded it, so it's got the double. Yeah, I folded it because I was... So you got two KG autographs. I said, the jersey's right there, and I'm asking that stupid-ass question. I said, did he wear that number five?

Starting point is 01:41:31 My bad. But Monday night, Ant dropped 38 on the Celtics, including eight points in overtime. Came up big on both sides of the ball. He's averaging 28, 7, and 5 this season. 52% from the field, 47% from three. And the MJ memes are meme-y. He has risen.

Starting point is 01:41:54 Shout out, Bart. That's not funny. He has risen. And made his first all-star team last season. Looking like an all-NBA selection is in his future if he keeps playing this way. But ESPN came out with their ranks before the season. Obviously, we felt a certain way about them.

Starting point is 01:42:11 Is Ant-Man a top-ten player in the league? What did they rank him? What was his rank? I'm just saying, look at the league right now. He top 15. You want to go through? He top 15. And I feel like he'll make an all-NBA team, but, you know, to keep this combo spicy.

Starting point is 01:42:27 He's a lot of good players, though. He definitely is, but. He was 13. He was 13. Oh, yeah, top 15. I think that's decent. I mean, you know, top 13, he got to be better than three more players right now. I'm pretty sure he's better than three of those players right now

Starting point is 01:42:46 because, you know, the way the season is. Hayden, Booker, Bill. I don't think Booker, I don't think they have Booker as top ten. Booker was 11. So he hasn't been there, so he playing better than Jimmy, so he at 11 right now. Ja, who was Ja? 34, 35.

Starting point is 01:43:02 So he at 11 right now because two players. Lucas, Steph, 5 and 6. Who else is hurt that's not playing? Or who else is... AD maybe. AD was 9, 10. All NBA is by position. Or it's positionless.

Starting point is 01:43:18 Anybody now? So who else is left? We got him at 11. I like Ant-Man at 13, man. Who about KD? KD, AD. KD, AD, LeBron, all top 10. Yeah, who else?

Starting point is 01:43:35 Tatum. Tatum? No. Curry? Tatum, Curry, Luka. Tatum, Curry, Luka, Giannis, Joker. Joker. Yeah, that was the first six.

Starting point is 01:43:44 So only basically Jimmy Butler and Booker. 11 Jimmy book Jim and Booker I think he's over Jimmy I mean but one is not playing so you got to put him in right now put him over a booker play one-Man over Booker? Right now? Right now. No, I'm just saying, even from the summer. Wait, did you say Tatum top ten? Even from the summer shit. No, Tatum top ten. Okay.

Starting point is 01:44:10 I was looking for the top ten. Coming off the USA shit, right? Let's say after that, not now, I'm taking Ant-Man over Booker. Ooh. Did you see what Booker was doing in the playoffs? No, I'm not even saying. I'm just saying leading up to the FIBAs. I mean, but we have to count Booker's last sighting was against Denver Nuggets. And that sighting was about what, 33, 34? But if we compare this season, he only played what, two games?

Starting point is 01:44:43 One game? But that's what I said. Right now I'm going to put him in front because he ain't been playing. I think he's more talented. On both ends. Amen. He's a better defender, I think. He's an underrated defender. He's still young.

Starting point is 01:44:59 He ain't there yet, but he's going to get there. Devin Booker only played two games, but he's averaging 32. Eight rebounds, 11 assists. God damn. Two games, though. Two games. I only put him there because he ain't playing. 32 on the Warriors. All right, D-Book.

Starting point is 01:45:14 Shit. We're not scared of that. We're not scared of that. I'm only putting him there because D-Book ain't playing. He ain't hit the game minimum. All NBA came out today and it would be up. He got to hit the game minimum. But if D-Book was playing, then I'm not going to put him in front of you.

Starting point is 01:45:32 No. It has the minimum to be a D-Book. We're not scared of that, though. But look. I'm just saying, Ant-Man's not scared. He's ready to challenge that. At that same age, man, you get the motherfucker or younger, had 72. That's a different type of...

Starting point is 01:45:46 I think Ant-Man do for one of them games. I think Ant-Man do for one. I don't know if he can... I don't know if he can do that. What? Not in many. So we got an Ant-Man...

Starting point is 01:45:55 Not with them teams. We got an Ant-Man related OnlyFans question from KSavage21. Mostly fans. Mostly fans. Does Ant-Fans have... Does Ant Edwards have a chance

Starting point is 01:46:04 of winning MVP in his career? If so, how many do you think he will win? If he do win, it's going to be one. I mean, the way this league is, it's going to be hard to win, too. It's hard to get more than one, yeah. Every top player has a chance to win it if you have the right team around you that you guys are going to try to win. Because it's based off of winning. So when Dirk won it, he wasn't close to winning one until the year he got all those pieces.

Starting point is 01:46:41 He was the best player on it. So, you know, everyone has a chance to win the MVP if you have your talent plus the team, you know, winning. It has to do with it. You know, it's another story if it just came off as an individual. It's not going to happen with this team that he's on right now. Minnesota. Not in Minnesota. No. Not in Minnesota. No way. We had Pat Beville on this season one finale, and he thought that Ant would eventually dip.

Starting point is 01:47:09 Obviously, Timberwolves fans weren't feeling that. I like the squad, though, man. I'm going to be honest. You know, Bruce Brown this summer said they gave the Nuggets their hardest test in the postseason. Oh, they did? We talked a few days ago about potentially trading Gobert or trading Cat. They've got number one defense in the league right now, and a 4-2. They gave the Celtics and the Nuggets both their first loss of the season. trading Gobert or trading Cat, they've got number one defense in the league right now.

Starting point is 01:47:28 And a 4-2, they gave the Celtics and the Nuggets both their first loss of the season. Let's talk a little bit about Rudy Gobert. He's putting up 12 points, 11 rebounds, two blocks a game, anchoring that defense. Yeah, he ain't. Do we still feel like the Gobert trade was that bad? I don't. It was pretty good. I'm just asking you.

Starting point is 01:47:47 What I'm saying is it's so hard to evaluate a defensive player today because what is the defensive rating? That's why I said we have two defensive players in one team and they can't even stop nobody. Now you have Rudy Gobert who in the

Starting point is 01:48:04 playoffs, he can't stop nobody. Right? He can't. But is he guarding, like, is he a great help side defender or a great on-ball defender? They're the number one defense in the league. No. I'm talking about Memphis has two MVP, defensive MVP award winners on their team, and they can't stop anybody.

Starting point is 01:48:24 You know what I mean? They're ranked, what, 18 now? You mean the team can't stop nobody or those players can't? Those players, they're part of the team. You got two of them. One guy, one post. One guy, one post. One guy, one post. Shit, you should be locking down anybody.

Starting point is 01:48:37 Everybody walking through y'all. Yeah, but that don't mean that the team gonna get that kind of percentage. It's still gotta be a cohesive unit. You still gotta play together. But that's what I'm saying. So you have a team that don't have many defensive players on it, but as a team, they're great defensive.

Starting point is 01:48:52 Well, like you said, the most important thing for any team is to have your front line to be guys you're scared of, to go in there and try to lay the ball up. You got Gobert and you got Cat down there. But Cat's not a defensive player. Of course he is. I mean, comparable. But as long as everyone does their job, like don't straight line, make sure we help.

Starting point is 01:49:12 That's what makes them a good team. They got offense. I mean, defense. They've got athletic guys that play defense, right? They just don't got no offense. Can I ask you? This is a real question right when Boston was great at defense right all these years Was Tatum a great defensive player no, right

Starting point is 01:49:32 Brown wasn't a defensive player, right? Al Horford was slow as hell. So their team concept was so great there You didn't even know who was actually bad at defense. People didn't realize that. When you took the individual players like, think about it, Tony Parker wasn't great at defense. Ginobili was not great at defense. Bonner wasn't great at defense.

Starting point is 01:49:56 But their rating as a team was a great defensive team. It's the concepts. When people say, you was bad at defense, I was great on ball. Yep Chasing motherfuckers around screens not my thing Over here. I'm opposite. I was over helper. He's over. He'll always know to play before to play. Yeah, my nigga backdoor I'm a ball watcher

Starting point is 01:50:19 Like my defense, you know I doesn't say like when when someone says he's not good at defense You have to try to think about what they're saying. Like he's a horrible on-ball defense. On-ball. He's a great help defense. Yep. Right?

Starting point is 01:50:32 This guy is great at roaming. He's great at netting. He's great at this. He's very bad at on-ball. So if you post him up, like some people go at him because he can't play on-ball defense. He going to foul you. Yes. He going to foul you. Yes, he can foul you great at Helping his teammate defensively. Yeah, right. There's a two different ways of judging. That's why I always wanted

Starting point is 01:50:53 How are you judging these guys on defense? What what is the defensive rating? What is the algorithm you're using because some of these players aren't great Defensive players like when you're talking about defense by himself yeah locking the guy yeah he's horrible at trash he's every single time off the first dribble not even turning them he can't guard one line he's great at help defense yep strongest fuck oh great at netting great at talking point this is Jason Terry. He said, look, I said, hey, how's the defense?

Starting point is 01:51:29 He's like, I'm horrible at defense, but what I do is I fake it. I pick up full court. I'm not trying to steal the ball. I have no steals, but I'm picking up full court, picking up, turn him, turn him. I'm just making sure he don't beat me off the dribble. Turn him. Help, help, help. Push the baseline. I'm just making sure he don't beat me off the dribble. Turn him. That's it. Help, help, help. Push the baseline.

Starting point is 01:51:45 I'm just talking. Hey, listen. Half the defense is just talking. Hey, but to be real. That's it. Because you've seen this at the high school level. Dudes don't communicate shit. Screen coming, don't say shit.

Starting point is 01:51:57 Let a dude get killed. That's the worst thing ever. If you just talk. When you're a post player, don't call out a screen. Just say what you see is happening to the dude who doesn't know it's coming. I got a concussion off that shit. Put some left. We are post player don't call out a screen With some left How important is that to the defensive side because you can cover up a lot of defensive deficiencies Oh and that's just by using your voice players like go bear so important because they're they see everything so they have to be the loudest

Starting point is 01:52:35 on the court That's why no one could take advantage of Steph Curry like they wanted to because you have Draymond Green back. Yeah, just talking constantly. Like I was watching a play where Dray was someone empty out and they were going to do a handoff with Curry. And he's like, just keep riding him over. Make sure he don't go baseline. Yep. Because there's no help back there.

Starting point is 01:53:00 Klay dumped out. So just keep him coming up front. Keep him coming up front. So that's when Curry adjusted and then you brought him up top across the screen so he couldn't go back door. Those are the things you need to stop you from being a bad defense or getting exposed. That's why I always said I attack the best defensive player because no one is in position to help him. No one helps Superman. That's true. No one helps Superman. That's true.

Starting point is 01:53:26 No one helps Superman. Everyone helps the civilian. A bad defensive player is a civilian. Superman need help too sometimes. I always like catching, like, we would joust back and forth if, like, we were to have a coaching situation, right? I'm on the same. Do that. And be like, oh, shit.

Starting point is 01:53:44 Now we got to end up giving the ball to him shooting a three every time think about it and i hate it because that's the fun part to me it's the planning and adjusting and the strategizing it's like when you got to do your counters that's the best part of the game is going to your counter because it's like oh y'all y'all know what we're doing you still can't fucking stop it like when i was coaching au it was so like i told the kids i was like look if he's on this side of the court Pushing pushing baseline pushing baseline big man. They're pushing a baseline. So you're gonna already beat They're coming. We're pushing to you all my guards don't reach right?

Starting point is 01:54:17 Just if the big man steps up get his guy from there. We're just gonna all overload it cut out Half the mistakes defensively. Hey, on this side of the court, keep him baseline. If he's in a corner, which I don't understand who's teaching basketball, if your man catch the ball in the corner, he should not be able to dribble it back out. At no point. Keep him. There's no fucking way your guy catches in the corner, and he's allowed to dribble the ball back out to run off

Starting point is 01:54:49 Soon as he catcher boom cut him off push him back baseline. He should stay on the sideline You got the sideline defense you got the baseline defense your ass is the defense and then you have your guy who's dropping Deeper that he's locked in how often do we see ball pressure in? The NBA like you saying if you get the ball in the corner There's no ball press for you to just dribble that bitch out to the top of the key from the corner We not playing hard defensively on the catch. I'm there, but if you bet not put it down you better lock man You bet not put it down. You better not Pass it and then he dribbled back out.

Starting point is 01:55:25 No, no. You better lock his goofy ass down there catching that goddamn ball. But that's what I'm saying. That's what I studied. That's what I studied. I studied how to score on defense. The best defense.

Starting point is 01:55:41 Like, all right. Like, you know, like, okay, I get the ball right here. What are they doing? Okay, he's locking here. He's locking there. Like, all right. Like, you know, like, okay, I get the ball right here. What are they doing? Okay, he's locking here. He's locking there. This guy's middle. So, shit, the only moves I have is the fake here.

Starting point is 01:55:52 He's just back. Then I got to take off and then try to get back middle. Step back. Or to step back into this little corner pocket. Like, there's only a few plays, and that's how you teach yourself. In real time, too. Yeah. You got to assess, assess like and as a trainer

Starting point is 01:56:05 I know how why his frustration with Hakeem was cuz it's like you got to be able to counter the counters in real time Especially when you're training so that's a frustrating part when you're seeing it You're like he not supposed to still be traveling right so the same thing with defense. You're not supposed to Adjust to the the offense that I'm bringing to the table until I make you adjust. And so when you're out there and you're like, all right, I'm going to turn this corner, get in this little pocket. Well, I know y'all ain't got nothing for this. We already calculated one, two, three. You ain't got no counters for this.

Starting point is 01:56:36 This is it. This is it. We're going to win every time. Even like this little concept for guards or guards' wings. When you're driving, the only time you change directions is once you see the inside shoulder. So if I'm driving, if I'm looking at this shoulder, right? If I'm driving, I'm looking at this shoulder, I do not change direction. Once I see this, that means he's in front of me. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:57:04 Go the other way. You guys be doing too much. He ain't even moved yet. Go. Keep going until he decides to cut you off. Once you see this shoulder, now you go in a different direction because there's

Starting point is 01:57:18 no way he can try to cut you off and get back. It's just a little simple thing. We're allowing them to play bullshit defense. Boom, boom, boom. We're allowing them to play bullshit defense. When you just boom, boom, boom. They not playing. Make him move you. That's energy. Yes. That's it. He got a two, two, uh, uh,

Starting point is 01:57:33 turn. Nigga, that shit tough. But if you're not making him move offensively. Like they're already like you're already changing directions before the defense even stopped him. Like keep him on your hip until he decides to try to Go full-bore now once he gets in front of you. Yep, come on. I am counter Now I can go has he gone like this

Starting point is 01:57:56 Everything opens up. They make it so you be I'll be sitting like he didn't even stop you yet You stopped yourself. Mm-hmm,. And that be happening too all the time when you don't take that extra dribble. Yeah. You don't pick the dribble up too much. I told my son, because he's left-handed, right? My youngest one.

Starting point is 01:58:11 And I said, if you want to make kids fall, right, with your speed, just go hard. And when he try to get in front of you, behind the back. Like, so he just goes hard and... And just kids be dropping.

Starting point is 01:58:26 He'd be like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's so simple. But this is rule of thumb for anybody trying to score, right? Depending on who you are, if the guy is faster than you, don't play with the ball, right? Because he's quicker and faster. Guys like that, straight line them.

Starting point is 01:58:46 Which means you're faster than he is if he's moving backwards. He can't get his speed like this, so that means once you go and now he has to turn to try to over beat you, he's the easiest person to yank. Just keep going full and then yank. Now with the slow long guy, that's the guy you can try to yank because they're slow footed. Slow's the guys you can try to yank because they slow foot slow feet

Starting point is 01:59:06 Hey, you gotta learn like taller swing gear you can yank compact faster straight line Simple the more, you know simple basketball basketball 101. We don't need any more your kids out here. You terrorize in the valley Move to we gonna lock him up to hold him to 42 to Locked up like he still be playing with tomorrow. You'll stop playing We play Gil Sunstein so I see Gil all the way Hi, I understand be trying to coach

Starting point is 01:59:44 Like he's the guy he's he to, they were teammates together, right? This is star player. And I said, yo, even though he's smart, he still thinks he can block you. Right? Go hard. Pump fake. So Josiah see me do this. Watch out for the pump fake.

Starting point is 02:00:00 Watch the pump fakes. Held him to 42. That's assistant coaching for that. He's going to pump fake. He's going to do it. For your coaching, you got to be perceptive of everything that's going good. Because the kids are not paying attention. But now it's time for some mostly fans.

Starting point is 02:00:15 That's funny. I'm not going to say anything. Yeah, you're not going to say anything. I look straight at his sock. He's going to take his sock. Where's the oil, ladies? I ain't got a pedicure in a few years, so I'm going to hold off on that. So first question comes from Underdog, a username Ray.22.

Starting point is 02:00:37 Which college basketball player, male or female, in the last 20 years would have made the most NIL money if it were legal? Skylar Diggins. Shemeka Hoseclaw. She got the face. She got the face over there, right? Shemeka, Shemeka.

Starting point is 02:01:00 Shemeka, Shemeka. Skylar was like the model type. Shemeka, Shemeka, though. She was Lil', Shemekka, though. She was Lil' Jordan. And she was hooping. She was Lil' Jordan. She had her little headband thing. She was the first college player to wear the little tennis headband. This is 2003 on, the last 20 years.

Starting point is 02:01:14 It's been a while since the last 20 years, man. Who in the last 20? Candace probably would have made a bag, too. Yeah, Candace for sure, for sure. But no, Skylar for sure. You got to remember, you got to be that type of personality, too, that just- Elena Beer. Who do we got? She's quiet. Duke. No. Yeah, remember you got to be like you got to be that type of personality to that just Elena beer She's quiet

Starting point is 02:01:32 Flo jay makes 1.2 million she averaged 10 Maya Moore for sure though my more I Feel like somebody from Kentucky good for a break back for all the boys Nah from Kentucky they break bread they've been doing what I'm saying is it has her have Wow Wagner would have got a badge Wait, I'm leaving good bags already. We're keeping it real. Yeah, I said Sandler would have got a bad guy I mean his mama did have like 1.5 or 1.7 million dollars but that but when we're talking about your name And how you put Michael fucking Beasley Michael Beasley? Michael Beasley would have got a bad. Yeah, the person look ended Yeah, Mike living good like this think about like when you're talking about sponsorship

Starting point is 02:02:24 You're talking about that personality that can talk, that can do this. He can sell himself. Yeah. I like Mike. Yeah. I mean, I'm just like Skylar. The way girls, I mean, I was one of them

Starting point is 02:02:35 who started wearing them little headbands. She could have monetized the hell out of those, made her own little headband line, everything. That's wild. The cultural impact of seeing something like that. You talked about this earlier in the show, but just seeing somebody in the gym do something like Kerry Kittle back in the day with the one sock. I mean, you know.

Starting point is 02:02:52 Christian Laettner probably would have got up. He was moving headbands like crazy. Let's say the Fat Five, right? You have Chris Webber, you have Jalen Rowe. Maybe them two. Juwan Howard. He was quiet. Quiet.

Starting point is 02:03:06 They were a unit, though. But I'm saying, I'm giving you this. You ain't got no voice. The doctor. They were stronger together. But think about, that's what I'm saying. Think about when they got to the NBA. Remember, marketing is still marketing.

Starting point is 02:03:20 Those guys wasn't marketing because they weren't they weren't there right they would have gave hansborough back they would that's what i'm saying i don't know what the commercial would have looked like though i'm just being real i don't know what the commercial would tell hans bro some snoop cereal who's really jimmer jimmer for hours jimmer would have got a bag. Jim would have got a bag. Jim had it. Wow, did you see that?

Starting point is 02:03:49 He probably had some black barbecue types. Excuse me. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that was crazy. He had a crazy running time. So our next question is from Underdog Username Necessary. That's a good one. Necessary.

Starting point is 02:04:02 Simple, but you got it. Should All-Star Weekend always be in Vegas? We're looking at the, and we're talking about the men's game because one. Necessary. Simple, but you got it. Should All-Star weekend always be in Vegas? We're looking at the, and we're talking about the men's game because the women already do it out there, but the next two destinations, you got Indianapolis. Trash. Convenient. It's cold. I'm just saying, start your locator.

Starting point is 02:04:18 I don't think they should ever do All-Star games in cold city. Yeah, I think. Cold city, pink cold city. I think because they're trying to change the economy, I think they keep putting them in these... Like, no, no... Fuck these cold cities, right? And, like, no, like...

Starting point is 02:04:33 NBA games, West Coast, right? WNBA games, East Coast, because they play in the summer, so they ain't going on to the East. Yeah, because it's warmer. It's warmer. Go on over there in the warm, right? But for the NBA, going on to the east. Yeah, because it's warm everywhere. It's warmer. Going over there in the warm. Right?

Starting point is 02:04:46 But for the NBA, like, most of your fan base, you're not getting because of the weather. So here's my thing with the All-Star game. This is not to smaller Midwestern cities, but the one in Cleveland was trash and shit. No Ubers. Couldn't get around. Airport. Leaving out that bitch. One of the jankiest shits ever.

Starting point is 02:05:02 Shot out clear for getting me through. Cold. Did you say cold? Oh, cold. Cold as for getting me through cold. Did you say cold cold? Like the air freezes like we know how was last year's in Was it okay musty air? I don't know musty black people didn't go there. They let us they let us pour They should get rid of the Utah Jazz to change. Your name is Jazz. Jazz.

Starting point is 02:05:29 Music. Black. From New Orleans, though. Right? Yeah. You went to Utah. Where the jazz at? Where is the jazz? Where the jazz at?

Starting point is 02:05:40 Where the jazz at? Where is the jazz? Come on, y'all. Ah, damn. Switch it. He's saying we got the L'all. Oh, damn. Switch it. He's saying we got the Lakers here. We got a few Lakes. Lake Crenshaw.

Starting point is 02:05:49 The Mormon Citas or something. Where's that this year? So this year it's in Indianapolis. The following year it's in San Francisco. San Francisco. Oh, that's going to be horrible. That's going to be expensive. Niggas is going to get robbed.

Starting point is 02:06:03 Because San Francisco streets are small, right? I think I think just that chase but they'll probably them uber prices are gonna be outrageous. Oh my god uber and coffee Uber and coffee gonna be hot Jimmy by Jimmy Butler by McKillen out there Okay, a lot of y'all going out the same. So it's gonna be a walking lick my vote not even rent a car Don't bring no valuable shit with you. You're getting robbed. Do you think that All-Star weekend? I'm just telling you.

Starting point is 02:06:27 Be positive, bro. Bro, the smash and dash? That shit is crazy. Wait, do you think they should... Should they put All-Star weekend in one city and just leave it? Or do you like the fact that it moves around? No, no, no. Should we do it in Las Vegas?

Starting point is 02:06:41 No, that'd be... Just Las Vegas. That'd be bad for just the... Why? Because when it becomes political and stuff like that... It's going to be boring. Let's knock all that shit out of here right now. Like, if you're going to do it in cities,

Starting point is 02:06:54 do it in cities that don't have basketball. Right, like Vegas. Yeah, you can do, like, Vegas. Oh, until they get a team. Vegas, you can do Tampa, Florida. Ooh. A lot of shaking going on in Tampa. You can do Tampa, Florida. You can do lot of shaking going on in Tampa. What are you going to do?

Starting point is 02:07:05 Tampa, Florida. You can do... Yeah, like non-NBA cities. Yeah, non-NBA cities, which forces everybody to come there if you want to. With indoor football stadiums, I would say. But it's hard because it's easy to do All-Star when you have an NBA arena right there.

Starting point is 02:07:18 San Diego. Let's do it at SoFi. Vegas is entertainment capital. You got all kind of shit there. Why wouldn't you do it in Vegas every year? You monetize on of everything you're doing and that's the thing about we'll see how Super Bowl plays out this year out there, but Vegas like they just be laughing when the crowds come in like this ain't even a big deal Bill for it. Yeah, we're ready for it every time.

Starting point is 02:07:47 That's what I love about Vegas during those times, because it's a variety of shit to do. You ain't got to just... It's easy to move around. But, you know, like, when you're an owner, right, you're relying on that money. Yeah. You know, when you're an owner, you just want to... Well, you could still have, like, a host team.

Starting point is 02:08:00 Yes. Not in their city. Yes. I mean, I don't know how that would work, but... It would be the closest city, which would be L.A., the Clippers and the Lakers hosting. Just in their city. Yes. Yes. I mean, I don't know how that would work. It would be the closest city, which would be LA. The Clippers and the Lakers hosting. Just make it places. You can't make it places that don't have direct flights.

Starting point is 02:08:12 Like, Cleveland only has one direct flight from LA, Indy only one. Oh, that's trash. You know what I'm saying? Like, you need. That doesn't work. You need. I know I understand you want to keep the wealth going around,

Starting point is 02:08:22 but life ain't fair. And y'all are billionaires, so. You know what I mean? Y'all are billionaires. And the NBA, listen, the NBA players don't get paid the same. Neither do y'all, right? Right. But Indy's going to be decent. We will be out there, hopefully, of underdog, custom check.

Starting point is 02:08:38 We are negotiating with them as we speak. You're not trying to get to Indy? You get some fits off. I mean, I'll probably go to Indy. Get some cold weather fits. They only got the hotel they got so the whole,

Starting point is 02:08:50 everybody black gonna be there. Got a Concord. Black Super Bowl as we call it. For the holiday end. It's just too... Everything's

Starting point is 02:08:57 centrally located downtown. They should probably do it in the, Lucas Oil or whatever it's called now. The Coast Stadium. Boy, it's no money heaven.

Starting point is 02:09:04 Why? I tried to tell you, boy. Century location. Did you just say Snow Bunny Heaven? Snow Bunny Heaven. Because it's going to be snowing out there, and then there's a lot of bunnies. Snow Bunny Heaven. That's why?

Starting point is 02:09:14 I thought I had something better than that. You know what? This is a major work. It's a work day. That's a work day. I will be there on the calendar. Yeah. Put it on the calendar. We'll be there on the calendar. Yeah. Put it on the calendar.

Starting point is 02:09:25 We working. Before we wrap the show, whoever in the chat called me Josiah Pinkett Smith, you ain't shit. Oh, my Lord. But God damn it, it was timely. So what the fuck? Oh, they go hard. Wait, what's closer? Chicago's closer there too, huh?

Starting point is 02:09:40 In Minnesota? Yeah. In Chicago, you can drive. They can be, that would be a lot. It was cold. It was cold? It was really cold. Cold as hell.

Starting point is 02:09:48 Cold as fuck. The cold puts you in a bad mood. How was Atlanta? Still cold. Pretty warmer than the other places, but. But cold. Like, there should be like three destinations. Like, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 02:09:59 Like, it would be like Tampa or Miami, Atlanta. Just like Super Bowl destinations. Yeah, Atlanta. And then you got like Vegas, LA. And they just rotate. And then probably Texas. Yeah, but you can go to Cowboy Stadium. Houston?

Starting point is 02:10:11 You can go to Houston. Houston's indoor, I know. They football. Oh, no, they can accommodate. You're right. So this would be like six cities that you just keep rotating to. Just like the fucking NFL does. It's not complex.

Starting point is 02:10:23 We don't need to be on the... Oh, NFL on's not complex. We don't need to... Oh, NFL on the... Yeah, they don't... NFL, we going to, like, five... They don't go to, uh... They don't go to, uh... Ohio! Occasionally.

Starting point is 02:10:35 Did New York one time. Did New York, Minnesota, but, like, those are, like, special teams. Like, we're giving you Tampa, Miami. Minnesota's still a big city, though. It's still a big city. But it's cold. No, but with a great-ass new arena, like... God, it's cold. But it's cold as shit, but... Hold Tampa, Miami. Minnesota's still a big city, though. It's still a big city. But it's cold. No, but with a great-ass new arena, like...

Starting point is 02:10:45 God, it's cold. But it's cold as shit. But... Hold on, man. Shout-out to Steph, bro. Can I shout-out to Steph for the... Oh, please do. For the tough crowd, boys.

Starting point is 02:10:53 You know what I'm saying? Getting me ready for this shootout. They look comfy. Yeah, man. Have you been practicing? Nope. Oh, okay. Nope.

Starting point is 02:11:00 I'm going to start practicing next week. Oh. So you're going to shoot with a regular ball? Yes. I will shoot with my basketball Not y'all's WBA. Yes. Okay, so you gonna shoot with your ball? Yeah That's a regular ball. That's a regular ball to me. Hmm But none the less that not fair no that's fair no that's fair? No, that's fair. No, that's fair. I feel like that's the fairest thing you can be. Is that fair?

Starting point is 02:11:26 Yeah. Is it? I shoot with mine. You shoot with yours. You get to shoot where we shoot from, too? Yeah, that's not a problem. High school three. We're shooting from the high school three?

Starting point is 02:11:34 Most likely. Damn. Everybody in the chat. I got to downgrade. I got to go downgrade. I got to downgrade. Yeah, you can't do the NBA three because the majority of the field ain't it NBA three-point player that's why I said she's gonna shoot what we should accommodate y'all yeah I can

Starting point is 02:11:57 shoot one-handed you struck you look like you struggling over there. Damn, Lex. I could shoot NBA threes. All right. But I think it's going to be high school or college. Everybody in the chat is getting on us about complaining about cold weather. We're in L.A. right now. It's about 77 degrees. Got shorts on.

Starting point is 02:12:24 In December, we'll hit a heat wave about 85, 90. We don't do the same things y'all do over there. That's why y'all move out here. That's what we're talking about. What we're talking about is the Gills Arena shootout that's going on. $100,000 for the winner. It's coming soon. Yeah, the info's coming, but yeah. Part two, part two.

Starting point is 02:12:42 I think December is when they're going to have the open tryout. And then January, like January 20th, is when the actual contest. So they have some time to practice. And y'all out there, have a chance. If your jumper is wet to win $100,000, there'll be more info coming soon. But you know, underdog take care of you. Gil takes care of you. There's been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

Starting point is 02:13:06 We will see y'all tomorrow. Thank you. Outro Music

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