Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Says Ja Morant Will Return On GOD MODE!!

Episode Date: December 18, 2023

Gil's Arena Previews The Return of Ja Morant as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew discuss the return of the Memphis Grizzlies Superstar this week as he makes his way back to the court following ...his suspension. They'll discuss the impact Ja will have on the Grizzlies and debate whether or not he can get the Grizzlies into the playoff picture. Other NBA topics include, The Los Angeles Clippers 7 Game Winning Streak and Kawhi Leonard's MVP Chances, Steph Curry's unbreakable record coming to an end and reminisce on the anniversary of Gil's 60 point game over Kobe Bryant. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Watch Gil Vs Melli Monaco Part II - https://youtu.be/IskMif3-tc4 Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:04:26 Gil Remembers Dropping 60 on Kobe 0:11:12 Ja Morant is Set To Return 0:21:18 Gil's Advice to Ja 0:30:47 Will Ja Lead The Grizzlies To The Playoffs? 0:37:13 Team USA Roster Predictions 0:42:24 Favorite Revenge Games in Your Career 0:46:28 Jalen Brunson's 50 Piece  0:49:03 Where Does Bradley Beal's Injury Leave Suns Big 3 1:00:34 Clippers Win 7 In A Row 1:08:04 Are The Bucks Good Enough To Win The East? 1:20:52 Giannis Finally Gets His Game Ball  1:27:16 Anthony Edwards & Timberwolves Deserve Respect 1:30:19 Tyrese Haliburton Says The Pure PG Is Dead 1:35:43 Steph Curry's Impact on The Game 1:56:07 MostlyFans 2:13:56 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 This is my store. This is what I was doing with what nobody knew. Y'all don't know what goes're gonna practice for the locker room. Age is zero. Change again. Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo-woo! Woo-woo! That was a good-ass woo-woo, y'all. We're going to have a good week.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Hey, Gil, you know you got glitter on your lip, right? I got glitter? Yeah. I've been eating them 2,000 snacks. All right. Gil, why are you going to wait until we come right on the air? You sit right next to me. Because I just, I just drank some water and I looked like,
Starting point is 00:02:07 oh, you got the glitter on the lip. You still there? Cream shit all in your mouth, glitter. What you doing before the show, Joe? You sitting right next to me. That's how most of us got caught, you know, leaving the strip club. Go home, got glitter all on your face.
Starting point is 00:02:25 Be like, ah, damn it. I don't know what Gil's talking about. I'm just here to host. You never been to the strip club. I was right at the shootout all weekend. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. Festive.
Starting point is 00:02:41 No glitter, but festive. Yeah, festive. You coming with the sweaters all day? Every day? Every day, baby. Every day. The ugly sweater. Someone's throwing the ugly sweater party.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I once won on Friday. No end? Wow. It wasn't that fun, though. Because we wasn't there. Yeah, you guys definitely would have turned to that. We walked in and... You walked out? Oh, okay. Yeah, it was definitely would have turned to them. We walked in and... You walked out?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Oh, okay. Yeah, it was bad. We got Lexi Brown back. Hey. No tanning. Hey. Sweater, but not Christmassy, but we're getting there. Awesome, man.
Starting point is 00:03:14 It's festive. I'll have a cute one tomorrow. A cute little Christmas sweater. Because I'm very excited to wear it. And in the holiday spirit, we got Brandi Jennings here with us. In the holidays. All black. All demon us. In the holidays. All black. Demon time.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Right? Grinch. Complete opposite. This is a Grinch. Ebony Scrooge. None of y'all give a shit. We're in hostile territory as always. Here's what we got cooking in the arena today.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Clippers on a league-leading seven-game winning streak. But does Kawhi deserve to be in the MVP convo? Steph became the first player with 3,500 career threes, but he also snapped his consecutive game with a three-streak at 268 games. Which record is more unbreakable? And the moment has finally arrived.
Starting point is 00:03:57 John Moran's suspension ends this week. John, come on home. But can 12 get the Grizzlies into the top 10 in the West? And before we proceed, all you fans out there, okay, we did a giveaway last week. Hopefully everybody got their bread. You guys were... I think we got one
Starting point is 00:04:16 person. Okay, but they were very diligent in letting us all know that they had not received their money. Stop putting your cash apps in the chat right now. We will let you know the next time that we do a giveaway. But today is not that day. Damn. But, you know who is giving away, Brett?
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Starting point is 00:04:59 and that's what a lot of people did. So our very first contestant who won, she already had got hacked. So she's the contestant who won, she already got hacked. So she's the only one that hasn't got paid so far. Did she get hacked? Or is she playing you, Gil? It don't matter. Keep sending that five. Keep sending that five.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Keep sending that five. How did she get hacked? How does that happen? I don't know. Sorry to that girl. We'll get you your money, though. Yeah, we'll get you your money. It's coming. And as always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of every show.
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Starting point is 00:05:54 Nearly 100 contestants pulled up to the Gil's Arena Shootout Tryout for a chance to win that $100,000 prize. That's what's up, man. That's what's up. That's what's up, for real. We had a lot of support. But one contestant in particular really made waves. Pulled up in a ski mask.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah. A man by the name of Trey Sanford. Can't see his face. Looked familiar, though. I know, right? Right? He looked like he played in the NBA in one of them college teams. Did you get to see him? I did see him Right, he look like he playing the NBA one of them college teams Did you get to see him? I did see him. Was he nice?
Starting point is 00:06:31 He stuck me up in the parking lot He was just practicing though cuz I had no bread But we do have the real I think we have the real people who advanced right the top 16 So let's take a look at that list okay so qualifiers I'm not gonna try to put it to ash was it one of Tope came through don't his 17 at 54 years old shout out to the Compton magic yeah he man it's all good shit yeah what's the point is if he didn't if he wasn't playing around on the last rack he would have probably he have probably had the top.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Shout out Gabe York, too. Bear Down. They said that one of the guys was the little trainer dude from when he went on TV and shot on Inside. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anthony. Oh, that was him?
Starting point is 00:07:21 That's what they said on Instagram. I don't know when he went on the show, but that clip had been circulating. Yeah, he said, you hit him. He was in Florida on a vacation. Yep. He hopped on a flight, came through, and now he has a chance to win $100,000. And they're going to say he's off the plane. Yeah, they tried to clown him on Inside the NBA.
Starting point is 00:07:36 He looks crazy on TV. Man, because it's probably an NBA 3. A lot of shooters, man. He's probably nervous. NBA 3, yeah. Wip, man. He's probably nervous. NBA 3, yeah. Wiped him. All right. Plus,
Starting point is 00:07:49 another five. We got another page or that's just the top five? This is the top five. Oh, this is the top five. Okay, top five. We got 10 more that'll beat her. So make sure y'all pull up
Starting point is 00:07:56 January 20th, 2024 at the District in Chatsworth for the main event. Winner take all, $100,000. Woo! Are you entering twice? What do you mean twice? I'm just saying. I didn't shoot.
Starting point is 00:08:09 I'm automatically in. That might be my cousin, Wilbert. Wilbert Arenas. Wilbert Arenas. So, Gil, this past Sunday was the 17th anniversary of your 60-point game against the Lakers. You did a YouTube Live last night.
Starting point is 00:08:27 I watched most of it. Okay. Very entertaining. Very enjoyable. So let's go back down memory lane with a special you got to remember. Word of Video. Here it is. Let's take a look.
Starting point is 00:08:39 On Kwame. Look at you. Oh. Those jerseys are so tough. A lot of people pointed out Kobe didn't really get a lot of those buckets to the second half. It looked more like the smush galade. To the second half? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I mean, I scored 40-something in the second half. Okay, well, there you have it. There's one of them, though. Yep, get that. There's another. There's another one. And one. They're all right here.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Was Kobe talking to you at all during that game? Nah. I don't know. I was too fast. Respect. Oh, you couldn't hear him? Nah. That's 12 right there.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Oh, shit. I mean, that's 14 right there. I mean, you know, that's 16 right there with the free throw. I'm just saying. I don't know how they're counting. That's 19 right there. That's 20 right there. I don't even know what they're talking about, man.
Starting point is 00:09:37 That's 21 right there. So you were 17 to 32 from the field, 5 for 12 from 3, 21 for 27 from the line. Bow. Also had 8 rebounds, the bow. Surprisingly, you also had eight assists in that game. Oh yeah, no, I passed the ball. You were passing? Okay, assists.
Starting point is 00:09:53 32 shots. I had to go ahead and throw it. Ah, ah. By accident. Ah. By accident. I fell out your hair. That was supposed to be a turnover.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So nearly 5,000 players have played in the NBA. Only 35 have scored 60 or more points in the NBA game. So you are amongst that list. For everybody who says, why this guilt? Talk basketball. What are your accomplishments? What are your achievements? One of 35.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I think I'm top 10 youngest. Score 60? Mm-hmm. So what are your favorite memories from that game you know growing up just being growing up a Laker fan you know what I mean you know your friends your friends y'all split Lakers and Clippers so you know I always played well actually against the Lakers before the 60 I was averaging like 32 against them. I had 75 people there. So family, friends, high school basketball team. So I invited a lot of people to that game.
Starting point is 00:10:54 So to really perform was more of the thing. That's who I was bowing to. I was bowing to all the people that actually came to see me play. So you had all 75, 100 level, 200 level? Did you disperse them? Something in the 300 level? It was on that first level. So you paid for it.
Starting point is 00:11:11 How many tickets? It was like 20-something. We wasn't hot, so it didn't really cost that much. It didn't cost that much. Damn. But it was like a home game for me. Coming back, I was an all-star. I was in my zone. So it was like, that was a home game for me, like, you know, coming back. I was an all-star. I was, like, in my zone.
Starting point is 00:11:27 So it was like, that was a big game for me. That was a big game for me. That's a great story. That's a great story. You know, family and friends. Did you have any legendary celebrity encounters during or after that game? Like, was Jack Nicholson there talking shit to you? Nah, but, you know, was it Tisha?
Starting point is 00:11:39 Tisha, um, Pam from Martin. Tisha Campbell? Tisha Arnold. Oh, Tichina Arnold? That's her name? That was, yeah. That's Pam? That's Pam.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Yeah. She was like only like a couple rows down, you know what I mean? Let me show you. Who's had it? Childhood crush, who's had it? Pam? Yeah, Pam got that work. Yeah, I was trying, but by the time I got there she was already gone
Starting point is 00:12:07 It's a step in and I couldn't get it on the bench cuz I didn't really sit on the bench like that But you know, she was there. I was like, yeah, I'm about to try to bag it. You would have talked to her from the bench Yeah You do often No, but she was you know, like the Lakers they you know, the Laker bench, like the celebs sit like right there. This is before, like they do it now, but back then it was like, like if this is coach's seat, it's like Jack Nicholson's like right there. And then on the other side, like you have like three or four seats right there. So she was right on the bench.
Starting point is 00:12:37 So that was the first time you would have talked to someone off the bench? Celebrity? Just anybody. Celebrity, the one I watched on TV all the time? Celebrity or like a girl you thought was pretty or something. Would you talk to them off the bench. Celebrity? Just anybody. Celebrity, the one I watch on TV all the time? Celebrity or like a girl you thought was pretty or something. Would you talk to them off the bench? Facts, right there? Yeah, facts.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Right there, because that means she's obviously someone got seats right there. And you're the guy. You've been watching the game? Good game, right? Good game, right there. I would love to see that. That would be funny. I mean, it's...
Starting point is 00:13:06 Talk to a girl from the bench? Right here. This is how close it was from, like... Like, it was, like, Deshaun. It would have been Deshaun and somebody else and her. So, it was just right there. So, I would have probably, like, tried to move in that seat. Like...
Starting point is 00:13:20 How you doing? Big fan, you know? Love your work. Love your work. Let's talk about some positives. People may not know this, but a DC area public school made six grand off that game. Please tell me why. I did a scores for schools program where I decided every point I made, I donated $100.
Starting point is 00:13:43 So we did a raffle right before the season. I did home games, right? And while I was doing the home games, one of the schools I picked was the owner of a Poland's elementary school. Okay. And he got teared up, and then he said he will do the road games. Okay, so that was coming out of his pocket. Yeah, that was coming out of his pocket. Yeah, that was coming out of his pocket. So he's probably,
Starting point is 00:14:06 we're probably the only player and owner to ever do a community event together. So we did that for two years. That's so dope. You know, so I did the home games,
Starting point is 00:14:16 he did the road games. So Gil and A. Poland love the kids. Yeah, it was a great way to be selfish for a good cause. Right, calling points. Like, oh, I wanted
Starting point is 00:14:23 to pass you the ball, but they need new computers. Man. They need new computers at this school, so I gotta go here get the 54 Good calls This is this is not For the kids. For the kids. For the children. This is not for you. This is for the kids. So, good, you said Kobe didn't talk much during that game, but did you guys ever talk about that game afterwards? Did he ever show you some love?
Starting point is 00:14:52 Oh, the plane ride. Oh, yeah, the plane ride. Because, you know, Karan. Karan's talking trash, and Kobe's on the phone, and that's when I was like, and he was like, yeah, the black mamba. And I was like, I'm the black mamba. Tell him I'm the black mongoose. Like, we were just fucking around.
Starting point is 00:15:08 He was like, all right, we'll see when I get to L.A. I mean, when we get to Washington. Yeah. What happened when he got to Washington? Gave him 39. Gave him 39. You gave him 39 or he gave you 39? He gave me 37.
Starting point is 00:15:22 You got 39? 39. We lost. That wasn't the point. You 39 he gave me 37 you got 39 39 we lost That wasn't the point The point was they were designed to stop me They designed to stop me and I still put in 39. Oh, so it don't matter It was just you but when you think about something like this and people don't understand like when you're talking about the psychic part of it right, it's He's saying when I come there the same shit ain't gonna
Starting point is 00:15:46 happen right so at that point it ain't even about the game it's about standing basically standing up for yourself so anytime he guarded me it was one it was this iso work this iso work from the beginning of the game iso and that's that's how that game went I think I was I shot like nine for 29. You did. But you had 37. Kobe had 39. He did? Got the best of you, Gil.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Oh, oh. With the win. With the win. I didn't care about no damn win. It didn't matter. He didn't care about no damn win. Y'all could have just played one-on-one, huh? But basically, that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It was one-on-one. It was one-on-one. I ain't going to lie. But they already knew that going into the game. Well, you say it was nine for 29. How many free throws did you shoot? They kept me off the free throw line that game. Uh, 16 for 17, Gil.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Oh, I saw, I saw. Okay, you were getting it. Three for 15 for three, though. Three for 15, yeah. That's a lot of threes. It was right. Hey, listen. It was rough.
Starting point is 00:16:41 That's a lot of threes. I was going, I wasn't going out without a fight. Come on. If I, if I'd have took like five, ten shots, even if we would have won, he would have made it a point like, yeah. So you can come play today. And people don't realize that, man. Like sometimes when it really don't matter what the outcome is, like if I went one for 40, he would still have
Starting point is 00:17:06 respect for that. Versus going eight for nine. That's fair. And we had a lot of people at the shootout, they said their motivation for coming was to beat you to defend Kobe's legacy for that 60-point game. More than a few people I interviewed were like, yeah, I'm just coming to bust Gil's ass because he gave Kobe 60.
Starting point is 00:17:22 We'll see if they achieve that. Now let's talk about Not for yourself We'll see if they achieve that. Now let's talk about Not for yourself. Not for them. All right. It was not for them. When y'all see how some of them shot the ball, y'all all would have showed up.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Everybody. The funny shit, I was like, yo, who do people tell you your jumper's like? More than like 80% were like, oh, you know, Steph. Dang. Clay. Like yo, who do people tell you your jumpers like and more than like 80% were like, oh, you know Steph Dan Clay clay horrible shooting forms as one foot one foot one nasty out there Somebody went one for 25. Did anybody go over? Was there over out there? I don't know
Starting point is 00:18:00 25 I witnessed 25 I Witnessed that Damn got a bit. We should just let you in just to let you in I witnessed the one for 25. I witnessed the one for 25. I witnessed that. Damn. Damn. Got a bit. We should just let you in just to let you in. All right. Yep. You should get arrested for that.
Starting point is 00:18:12 If you wasted everybody's time. We had a whole production crew. Everybody taking time out of their Saturday. We need to do that shit. Jog off. We need to go one for 20. You fucking wasted everybody's time. You can't shoot.
Starting point is 00:18:22 What you doing? One for 20. But it makes for good TV. I hope some of y'all didn't set yourselves up in them interviews to get clowned. No, they did. Let's talk about the contemporary NBA now. Grizzlies have looked like mildew this season, but thankfully John Morant's 25-game suspension is set to end this week.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Josh eligible to return on December 19th for the Grizzlies' road game against the Pelicans. Gil, you've already said that You think he's not playing again. I think you might I Wouldn't I Mean, that's just that's just me It's it's more of a personal stance of you guys suspended me for 25 games Right and in my first game back you guys want to put us on TNT. Nah, that's not what we doing. You know what I mean? Is that game tomorrow's on TNT?
Starting point is 00:19:09 Yeah, that game's on TNT. Like, you're going to put the game on TNT, the number one pick versus the number two pick, right? It makes me seem like you guys did this intentionally. So this has been on the schedule. This wasn't changed. It was not on the schedule. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:25 So you're playing against Zion, TNT. I would sit this one out. See y'all at home next game against Indiana. On league pass. On league pass. Now what it does is it makes NBA, if you want me prime time, because I don't want like Charles Barkley, the TNT crew to talk about me now.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Right. Now we'll go back home where my announcers get to talk about me in a good light versus going on the road. And then they go, oh, John Morandes' first game back from the Spurs. I know my home crowd ain't doing that. I know my home announcer's not doing that. So, John met with the media for the first time last week, talked about his perspective on life as well as the game and the chip on his shoulder. Where did it go? Books or classes aside from, you you know people that you were learning from uh therapy learning from you know me obviously i feel like i learned some stuff about myself that you know i didn't um during that you know process um very eye-opening um kind of gave me a you know a new
Starting point is 00:20:23 look you know on life uh with you know how I go about my days, how I carry myself. Just being grateful and thankful that I'm still here and in the position that I'm in. Yeah, it's a sheer size now. What size? Sheer size. Thanks, everyone. Not a little small chip no more. It's a sheer size. Thanks, everyone. Not a little small chip no more. It's a share size.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Wait, what? He said it's not a small chip anymore. It's a share size. So it's a big chip on his shoulder. Oh, a share size. I believe. Somebody said share size too, but I don't. Share.
Starting point is 00:21:02 It sounds like share. Like a big bag of chips. Yeah, y'all going to share this work. That Costco family side bag of chips. So what are your expectations for John Morant this season now coming back off his 25-game suspension? He better shoot the ball every time. Like Memphis hasn't shown him or us anything, like, for him to come back to
Starting point is 00:21:27 and be like, okay, let me, like, help y'all, like, find y'all steps. Like, there have been games that I've watched Memphis where they look like they don't even want to be out there. So I think he's just going to bring a lot of energy and re-energize the team. But he needs to, like, do his thing completely. Yeah, I think a lot of energy. I think the main thing is just win. I think once he come back and they start winning, all the noise, everything.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I mean, it's already gone, but that's just, that's the biggest thing. Just come back and start winning. Just play well, win, and everything else will just fall in place. He's the battery pack of the team, so, you know, all the highlights that, we haven't seen a highlight yet from that group, right? So Low-light the 40 was somebody had 49 on 18. It doesn't vary. Oh, yeah, there's a main but that's and even that was still just like I But yeah, yeah this just him bringing back the swag of the city.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Right? And that's the type of player he is. So I'm pretty sure he going to be on SportsCenter. Someone's getting bodied first game. Yeah. Okay. It'll still be you. At the end of the day, it'll still be you.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah. Still be you. Still be Ja. I don't care. Yeah. First time you get an opportunity, I just thought they had you in court talking about you dunking. Okay? Yeah, but like yeah talking about your name Your jewelry was it real or fake or not? You know how to throw a chess pass? Yeah That was nuts that was crazy I think I got thrown or your diamonds real question. They should be like nope. Thank you shit. I'm broke
Starting point is 00:23:09 So give you also You know not a similar situation, but under one of 50 game suspension for some situations that I've see are well documented What did you learn about yourself and the game during your own suspension? That I need to basketball right That it was really all I knew That I needed basketball, right? That it was really all I knew, right? I didn't have a life outside of the court, right? So I'm sitting, I went to Miami, so I was there for the Super Bowl. Didn't go to the Super Bowl, didn't even walk down the streets,
Starting point is 00:23:45 was just on the balcony just watching everybody else. But I realized I didn't have anything. Right, if they took this away from me, there was really, so I was depressed. Now that's when I decided, fuck that, I'm changing my number. And that's when I changed my number from zero, went to nine. Don't even know why. Maybe that was the ninth year. I have no idea why.
Starting point is 00:24:09 But that's when I was sitting there, you know, with all the thoughts of what if this was it. Been like that feeling. Did you go to, like, like Ja mentioned, like therapy and stuff like that. Did you like go talk to anybody or you was just like by yourself? Girl, back then that was called weak minded. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Back then that's what it was. You go to therapy, you was weak minded. Like you supposed to be able to, you know, handle that yourself. So I wish there was, I wish there was like that therapy talk back then because,
Starting point is 00:24:50 you know, that was it. That was, that was the end of Agent Zero. When I got suspended, that was the end of Agent Zero. There was no more going backwards, right? The whole persona of me, I let die because it wasn't, there was no turn off. Turn it, like, turn it on on the court, turn it off, you know, off the court.
Starting point is 00:25:10 It was the person himself. That's who I was. Like, I was a daredevil. Right? And that's how I played. So if you, if I turned that part of me off,
Starting point is 00:25:18 then, you know, I, you know, so it was just one of those things where I wish I was convinced that, fuck it. Like, so I didn't I wish I was convinced that, fuck it. So I didn't get this personality back until 2016, 2017. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:31 If you look at me from when I... After that time, the personality of me was gone. And I didn't get it back until after. Like 2016, going beefing with the BM on social media. And that's what turned you back? Yeah, that's what turned me back. Yeah, it was like, oh, no, I know who you need. Gloves off.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Fuck it, let's go. And then that's. And was it like a slow decline? Was there a moment you remember where you kind of felt like, damn, I'm not agent zero anymore? Reading comments when, you know, scores for schools, you're doing all these things, all these great things in the area.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And then I remember I made a comment that you do 100 things right in this world, you do one thing wrong, and that's all I remember the rest of your life. So just the thought of everything I've done, this is who y'all are going to remember, I don't want no parts of this anymore. Like, even community service, I stopped.
Starting point is 00:26:33 I stopped it all. That's crazy. That's real, though. Even like charity and shit? Yeah. No, that's real, though. I do it for me now. Not to say I had a suspension, but I went through those same thoughts when I tore my Achilles.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Like, when I didn't think, I didn't know if basketball was going to happen again or anything. So you just, when you get away from the game, you start having like dark thoughts and just start being like a daredevil and things like that. So that's just everything you said. Like I just remember me being in that dark space like stop doing community stuff Just stop being around stop like because you just away from the game and you're trying to figure out what's next in life Mm-hmm. That's the hardest thing because all you know is basketball So it's like now you like you got to find something else to love and then you know
Starting point is 00:27:19 Different people start coming around friends like, you know, like you said baby baby mamas, everything, like everything just changes in your life. And once, once basketball stops, uh, you start to find out who you really are. How long did it take you to do that? Cause obviously doing so much great stuff now, community stuff, clothing brand. I mean, it took me, I mean, I stopped playing to that. I mean, luckily I had tough crowd, but it still was still rough. Like, you know, you're not playing, like you seeing guys that can still play you're seeing comments and things like that but um i mean i think just starting a business and just doing something different in general is tough you know it's hard work so good you're one of the few people that i can actually really speak to john on a spiritual level having experienced similar things that he's experienced what advice would you give john now
Starting point is 00:28:01 as he comes back from the 25 game suspension, tries to get his career back, tries to put himself back in that upper echelon superstar tier? You know, it's all a process. You know, how you feel today, your thoughts today are not your thoughts tomorrow, right? Just grow with every experience that you're going to encounter. But realize that there's people out there that's trying to take it from you. And you really got to understand that. I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:35 like what you did was on the internet, right? And you see how much it cost you, right? You see how like easily your whole life can be taken out of your hands. When I did it, I was 28, so three knee surgeries. It was easy for me to be sooshed away. Right now, you're in a position where they can't, But eventually you start getting older, you get an injury, this right here will be the end. This would have been the end if you was 32, 33.
Starting point is 00:29:13 So really understand that this is all valuable. So enjoy it in a positive way and find people around you that really care about just who you are as a person. And take it all back. Huh? Take it all back. Oh, they're going to take it all, yeah. No, no you are as a person? And take it all back. Huh? Oh, they're going to take it all, yeah. No, no, I'm saying him.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Go get it all back. Take everything back. Because that's the only face we're going to have for the NBA. Alexi, obviously you dealt with injury. You were dealing with some stuff this past season. How were you able to deal with that overcoming? Did you ever find yourself in a dark space as well where you really just started to question what your future was going to be like
Starting point is 00:29:45 with basketball? I think this past summer, not too much because I always, I mean, my doctors told me the best thing for this particular issue I was having was to have a good mindset
Starting point is 00:29:57 and a positive outlook. So I teetered on that dark mindset, but I never really got quite there because we were mid-season. I was around my teammates. My family was great. I had a really good support system, which I'm always thankful for. But I think the darkest time I was in was when I got cut for the first time from the W. And at that moment, I thought my WNBA career was over.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And I was only, I had just finished my third season. So I was just kind of like okay well what's next but um you know thankfully it turned around quickly but there was like a two week span where I was like all right well let me go use these degrees and go get a job and figure out what I'm going to do next but thankfully thankfully it turned around. And like Gil said, like that, that mental health, the therapy, like I was blessed to be in a time in college and my beginning of my professional career where like that was becoming more acceptable. Like people taking mental health breaks and, you know, we have a team therapist. I had a team there. We had a team therapist my freshman year in college. So it was like just getting started when I got to college.
Starting point is 00:31:06 So I think those things are very helpful, especially for athletes. And I just want to hit on something you said earlier. I think, especially nowadays compared to back in the old days, back in the old days, therapy, all that shit, you were weak-minded, you were soft. There were things that were hurled at you. But you hear Ja talking about how therapy has helped get him through. And he was in a dark spot, let's just be real, before his suspension, doing a lot of wild, reckless shit, where it seems like we're seeing a different Ja now. So is your opinion on
Starting point is 00:31:32 therapy still the same, or has it shifted at all as you've gotten older? I don't know. You have to ask the players that's been through it. That's why I said it took me self-checking, understanding who I am, understanding what I did, the responsibility of my own actions. With therapy, I would have probably figured that out three or four months after it happened versus ten years.
Starting point is 00:32:05 You know what I mean? You know, most of the time as an athlete, you don't want to take responsibilities for your actions, and that's probably the reason, you know, we're successful, right? We can brush it off, pretend it didn't happen, and keep it moving. And, you know, that's's I said when I got to Orlando Man, I was throwing up every morning. It's like when I woke up I threw up Right. I didn't know that was depression if you listen to
Starting point is 00:32:34 Ben Gordon, right Oh depressed. We don't know the levels of it back then we didn't know you know back then like if something happened you got a Focus right you tell a teammate. Yeah, man. This is boom boom boom. He's looking at you law this man You know, back then, like, if something happened, you got to focus, right? You tell a teammate, yeah, man, this is boom, boom, boom. He's looking at you like, oh, this man, he's falling off, y'all. Yeah, yeah. Right? I'm about to take his spot.
Starting point is 00:32:52 You know what I mean? So we held in a lot of the things that was going on. So, you know, the fact that these guys are able to, you know, speak it, talk to someone, and get over it faster than everybody else did, it's amazing. So we know how the media views Ja now, and obviously the media's a media very fickle. Their opinions will change very quickly if you're able to go out there and perform.
Starting point is 00:33:17 So how dominant would Ja have to be to get back in the good graces of the media? Just win. Just win. Just playing. I feel like he's back in their good graces of the media when just man, this is planned. I feel like he's back in there good graces now Considering the other things that I've been going around around the league. It's kind of mixed jazz Issues seem very minor so
Starting point is 00:33:37 And then the way Memphis is playing I think everyone is like, all right, come on, y'all. Come on, hurry up. All right, come on, please. All right, all right. We fucked up. Yeah. We fucked up on this, y'all. Like you mentioned, there is some wild shit going on. Some wild shit going on out here. Every week, it's something.
Starting point is 00:33:56 It's like the NBA G League. Everybody's trying to get their shit off before the year ends. Yeah. Yeah. Some things we will not talk about on this show, but you have Google. Google is free. And Google is your friend. Grizzlies are currently 6-18, 13th in the West.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Seven games behind the Suns for the 10th seed in that final playing spot. So I need to know right now predictions. We'll come back and look at this video towards the end of the season. Will Ja lead the Grizzlies to at least a playing game this season? Playing game is 10th? 10th. You said they're 6-18? 6-18. Actually, I think so,
Starting point is 00:34:36 but the question really is, do you want to? Yeah, because it's right there. They're making the playoffs. I got them making the playoffs. But do you want to as a franchise? Yeah, because the East is... I mean, well, not me, the West.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I mean, yeah. Look at your team without him. Just without him, look at your team. That means you don't have the talent that you really thought you did. So if you go in there and make the playoffs and you get a... That says a lot about my value. But I'm saying you get a draft
Starting point is 00:35:08 pick that's, what, 20? Versus, you know, you can get a lottery with the roster you have. No, I just think in Ja's favor, it just looks good. Oh, no, in Ja's favor. Like, you know what I'm saying? So for him, it's like, yeah, spend the 25 games, come back, we make the playoffs, yeah, whatever. And let's
Starting point is 00:35:24 say, hypothetically, they get that eighth seed or they can even sneak into that seventh seed if they can finish top eight in the West, which we don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves. But right now you're looking at the Timberwolves or you're looking at the Thunder as that potential matchup. Does that intrigue you at all to have a Grizzlies? I wouldn't want to see them in the first round if they get it together. I'll say that.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I do. Because we know what their team look like without Josh. Six and 18. Right? So, you know, if you're the Timberwolves, I mean, you would love to see them. Because, you know. Well, it depends on them. That wire better go through.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Huh? Wire better go through. That wire better go through. If it don't go through, then listen, I got Memphis got Memphis I mean they don't have five they're not gonna have Steven Adams at all are they nah oh yeah if John gets him to the if John does get them to the the playoffs he's on God mode oh for sure even if it's short oh yeah he's on God yeah yeah yeah oh no yeah he's on God mode. Oh, for sure. Oh, for sure. Even if it's 10. Oh, yeah, he's on God mode. Even if it's 10? Yeah. A player?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah. Oh, no, yeah, he's on God mode. I mean, he is the face, right? He's doing something. That means the way he's playing, the style he's playing, that charisma, that aura, he gets them in playoff breach. Yeah, because that means he also rubbed off on his teammates, and that's very important.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Yeah, because I don't think from Ja's standpoint, yeah. Grizzlies standpoint, yeah, maybe not make the playoffs, see how we do in the lottery, get a better pick. But if I'm Ja, I'm trying to move product. I'm trying to get my name back where it needs to be. I already know I'm not going to make an all-NBA team this year. It'd be a nice fuck you to the league. No, for sure.
Starting point is 00:37:03 To go out there and potentially pack up the one seed. I think he got the energy to do it, though. To get players to be like, all right, to get going. Yeah, he's going to get his name back. He's going to be on that USA team. So you think he plays tomorrow, though? You think they're going to put him on the USA team? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:22 Next year's Olympics? The thing is this. Why wouldn't you? You're going to Paris. But they got to stop- Whose spot would he take on the team? This is the problem. We build teams for the USA team.
Starting point is 00:37:46 92 didn't build no team. They had the best stars. Yeah, the best players. Like nine out of those 12, right, were first team all NBA. The following year, there was only one player that wasn't all NBA. I think one year, all of them was all top NBA. How many players are on the Olympic team? I think 12.
Starting point is 00:38:11 12? Mm-hmm. Yeah, you know, it started getting to the point where, you know, like eight players wasn't all NBA players. So those first two teams that we had, they were all NBA. Yeah, Ligner wasn't an NBA player. I'm talking about just that year alone like magic wasn't all NBA or he was but like bird wasn't Ligner wasn't I mean
Starting point is 00:38:32 magic are not from the United States I'm thinking about all the top guards in the league right now they're not funny They're not from the United States. No, they're from overseas. Two people. It's just Shea and Murray. And Luka. Oh yeah, Luka, I forgot. Three is a lot. No, no, no, Murray's never all, he's not an all-NBA player.
Starting point is 00:38:57 He's not an all-NBA player. He played like it in the finals. Still a North American. And I say guards, I'm just thinking about players in general, because you got to think a 12-man roster, like three people is a lot. But think about on that, think about, if he is on that team, what type of highlights, he is the one that's going to do the Vince, jump over somebody, those are the things you need.
Starting point is 00:39:22 And you know who don't make it? You know who not gonna make it, and I who not gonna make and I hate to say it I don't think day makes it USA team. I don't know. I Don't think he I don't I'm talking I'm trying to get our name back. I don't need them You don't I need them. Yeah That Vince Carter dunk. That's what we need. We need that back in the USA when we're jumping on people So him or a free so him is that's not the one we need of we need people to be afraid of us
Starting point is 00:39:51 So him is that's not the one him Draymond green Come on. No, no, no. No, I mean, I'm rolling with Draymond For sure I need to do it for sure Who he knock out in Paris? Yeah. He don't knock out everybody. I'm talking about you trying to... This is our country.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Think about it. When Jordan went there, when you had those first two Olympic teams, they was beating people by 40, 50 points, right? Because they went there and dominated, right? As soon as you... Hakeem and Shaq averaged 29 and 30
Starting point is 00:40:30 and 12 and 14 rebounds that year and came off the bench. Think about the power that was coming off the bench. You got motherfuckers who averaged eight points and they're like,
Starting point is 00:40:39 oh, yeah, you on the Olympic team. The fuck, guys? What? Okay, so the guards, how many guards they put? Six? Six guards? Five guards? Two six six guards five guards two point guards Go right you do you do you do about three three guards?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Okay, you do four you do four four and four four and four five four and three them Jason Tatum Yeah, this is some people niggas But I know I know for I mean Anthony Edwards Is making it Yeah Anthony But for my highlight reels Anthony Halliburton See that's a good one
Starting point is 00:41:11 That's a good one That's a sleeper He was just on that FIBA team right Yeah But he wasn't But he didn't play But that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:41:19 Austin Reed was on there I'd rather For Olympic Living Daddy He played well though Too right Austin Reed might make it. Oh, no, they're getting one.
Starting point is 00:41:27 It's LeBron playing. That's the... Yeah. So LeBron... So that's... KD. You're pushing one of these. LeBron, KD. KD.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Oh, we're going to buy guards. Curry. Ja. Ja, Ant-Man, Tatum. That's... Devin Booker. Yeah, this... I'm waiting.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I'm waiting. There's going to be some people. Trae Young. There's going to be some people who are going toe Young. There's going to be some people. Because Jimmy Butler gets an invite. See, look, small guards and FIBA is kind of like, it's kind of iffy. Yeah. Small guards and FIBA is like, it's like iffy.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Right? I'm not coming. Listen, I'm not coming there to hit a bunch of threes. I'm coming in. I'm jumping. We got Mike. We running down your throat. You think they're going to have a camp?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's tryouts. Oh, yeah, it's tryouts. No, listen. That ain't no real. That's bullshit. A tryout is bullshit because you come in here and try. They have their team picked.
Starting point is 00:42:17 They have like, oh, yeah, we're going to have a tryout. They got their team picked. That's just for optics. Dude come in here, trash trash, but how you make it That's gonna be interesting Zyze I on come down to two to two to forty five to sixty Zion on that team I'm playing bully basketball. We know who might you know what there's a Darryl to Fox and be there to Fox might make it
Starting point is 00:42:44 Yeah, he got it. Yeah, I'm looking listen. I'm looking he fast I'm looking about I'm looking for speed and highlights. Yeah speed and highlight I'm going back to the first the first group the 92 where they just sitting there just running just coming up and down I all that, you know, like magic, yeah, Magic was doing his thing, but... Yeah, yeah, no, I hear you. But Barkley sitting there dunking on everybody, that's... We want dunk.
Starting point is 00:43:13 We want to show the Euros, like, hey... They have to make a statement for sure, the USA men's team. Like, when what's-her-name tried that 360 on the fast break on somebody. DeMar, that's what America... Yeah, that's the American basketball right there on the fast break don't so much tomorrow. That's what America. That's the American basketball, right? Yeah, so we asked the chat another great polarizing question will Jolly the Grizzlies of the playoffs
Starting point is 00:43:33 50% said yes Let's talk about a former Grizzly real quick though Dylan Brooks made his return to Memphis this weekend got some revenge on his former team We're the video? Now it's Biambo to Brooks, shot clock winding down, working on Bain for three. I'm not going to front, that's a good feeling. Yeah, hitting that dagger three. Has some things to say. So after finishing the first half with two points, Brooks exploded for 24 points in the second half, including that three.
Starting point is 00:44:01 According to Grizzlies beat reporter to Michael Cole after the shot,its exclaimed that's why they paid me for for 80 so got me thinking for all y'all on this couch you all had revenge type moments at some type of point in your career what's your favorite revenge game in your career me going back to um me going back to Oakland and I had the orange uniform on with the orange shoes and they had the Michael Jordan of Paris. Is that what it was? Michael Petrus? Yeah, Michael Petrus guarded me and hit him with the game winning layup and it was an
Starting point is 00:44:42 and one. So it was a buzzer beater but because they called the foul to they had to put point eight seconds back on the clock Where the video is video? Send the video Y'all gotta send it. We don't have a video video. Oh, yeah It was a 1 4 flat on the 104 flat I sold him came in with the river it wasn't reversal, but it was like the up and under and one. Boom.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Kaiki with a missing free throw on purpose. Lexi, how about yourself? Revenge game? Probably my first season with the Sparks. We had our first game in Chicago. So I went and played well. We beat them in overtime. So that was fun.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Hit some threes. And it was nice to be like, yeah, you had me on the bench all last year. I could have been doing this for y'all. Were you talking shit? No, I don't talk shit. Okay. You don't talk shit? No.
Starting point is 00:45:37 What? I flip my ponytail sometimes. Is that true? Okay, that's your thing? Yeah. Okay. My mom hates it. But she's like, stop touching your hair.
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah, that was fun. I wouldn't call it like a revenge game because I really didn't have no beef with Chicago. It was just, but it did suck that I really didn't get to play there. So I had to let them know. Oh, you James. Brandon, how about yourself? I think probably just going back to Milwaukee after I got traded. Those first two years, I had some good games with Detroit. So just always felt good going back to Milwaukee after I got traded. Those first two years, I had some good games with Detroit.
Starting point is 00:46:07 So, just always felt good going back. Let's get it. Let's get into a little hibachi time, talk about another good game, or two, or three, or four. So, first, we're going to start with Jalen Brunson, continuing to show why he has one of the most team-friendly contracts in the league.
Starting point is 00:46:24 That 4-for-100 is looking oh-so looking oh so special right now let me see what that video look like maybe I'll talk to him so Brunson went off in the second half against the Suns dropped 35 of his 50 points going 12 for 12 from the field 8 for 8 from 3 he finished 9 from 9 9 for 9 from behind the arc which is tied in the NBA record for the most threes in the game without a miss. He's also the first player with 30-plus points and 100% field goal percentage in any one half in the play-by-play era. Does that mean history? Because they say play-by-play era.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Play-by-play goes back to 1990. So just at least like the 6th, 97th season, whatever? 97, 98. So that's 25. Okay. Because when they say that, I always get confused. So just at least like the was like the 6th of 97 season whatever 90 97 98 Okay, so when they say that I always get confused like so did a nigga 95 do it, but they didn't just do the play-by-play He is 97 98. That's why I say play-by-play Harry, but more importantly after the game Julius Randall Made sure to avoid another Giannis Pacer situation Word of video, there it is.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Grabbing the game ball. He's trying to spin. He's like, why are you running at me? Took it from his own teammate. Held it up triumphantly. Made sure that Brunson got the rock. Should I get it? I would attack that.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Should I go for the ball? There it is. Grab it. Got the rock. I don't think there was any sun that got his first point tonight. I would attack that. This is my fourth broadcasting game. Should I go for the ball? There it is. I think it's even more important than Jalen Brunson. All right, here, Barry, try to touch it too. What you doing, doggy? It's my 50-piece ball. So is it time to start considering Brunson as elite point guard in this league?
Starting point is 00:47:57 No, he's elite. His name is just not elite, right? His game, he reminds me of Isaiah Thomas that Boston year right where he like he is the he is the motor team he is the team but the name don't match the game right and it just seems like you know there's always these guys that come into the league that, you know, they are a force. But because they don't have that backing, that AAU name, that stardom name, they don't get the recognition. Isaiah?
Starting point is 00:48:34 Huh? You said Isaiah. Wait, him? Isaiah Thomas. Remember from Boston. Boston, right? He did have the name. Nah.
Starting point is 00:48:43 No, he didn't. You about to get it? He had the 29 point game like he's third in the NBA and scoring, but was he treated like third in the NBA scoring Yeah, he was two-time all-star Was he voted in? I think so no like fan votes Yeah, fan votes voted in by the fans and had that whole super stardom that his game doesn't said his game was Superstar 8 but the name itself and it was like I don't know like that's why they treated
Starting point is 00:49:13 No, he got traded because of the yeah, but that's the same treat I'm trading them for a superstar name Right. It was like when you talk about the game he he had the superstar game, but didn't have the superstar name. That's why they was willing to trade for him. We want somebody who's going to put seats when we travel. Brunson just falls in that category. It's a personality thing, or you think that the way he plays is not exciting enough? Because I feel like a 50 ball is very exciting. On national TV? On national TV, guys?
Starting point is 00:49:46 On national TV. And he plays for the Knicks, so I thought after he signed with the Knicks, he was going to blow up. I think that's a bad comparison. Who? With Isaiah and Brunt, this guy. I guarantee if you put Isaiah's rating, if you put his rating and where he rated as a point guard,
Starting point is 00:50:02 and then you look at the people in front of him, you'd be like, what the fuck? No, I just think his name and what he did for Boston, like Jalen ain't never done. It's not the same. It is. That Boston run that he had, Jalen has never done. Now let's take Kyrie. If Kyrie had that Boston run that he had. But Kyrie was already an NBA champion.
Starting point is 00:50:25 So Kyrie already came in number one, Duke, everything. Like, his name was already. But that's what I'm saying. But if he had the year that Isaiah was having, how big would his name be? They would have been talking about he's the number one point guard. He's an MVP candidate. They would have been throwing all that under his name. I mean, they were doing the same thing with Isaiah
Starting point is 00:50:47 No, Isaiah let as they let that team to let no way he wouldn't know that's a man by himself I know it but did he get recognized for doing that? No, you got fuck. I mean he didn't he didn't take them I mean he didn't take the yeah, he could have I'm not like he he met me. Yeah, he just didn't take the bag, huh? Did they offer himself didn't they offer him take the... Oh, yeah, he could have. I mean, I feel like he messed up himself. I mean, yeah, he just didn't take the bag. Huh? Didn't they offer him? Didn't they offer him the money? No. No. The concert never came?
Starting point is 00:51:10 No. I mean, I think it's the injury. No, they didn't. They didn't offer this man nothing. If the injury don't happen... But even if the injury... You don't know that yet. Remember, he played his sister.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Right, he still played. Right. But that's what I'm saying. He was playing Washington. He was hurt though. Boston got it written because he was hurt though. They knew he was... What they did was
Starting point is 00:51:36 they used his production to trade for a better name. A bigger name. A bigger name. That was it. You're talking about the man average 29 a game 29 again that when I was and I understood that because when I was when I was asking Adidas for two million dollars. They said your name's not big enough So what your name is not big enough. So I had to create this environment
Starting point is 00:52:02 That's when I had to throw the party and I became this whole personality for my numbers to match my name. Like Dame, right? Back then when Dame was scoring, his name didn't match his production. It's a thing. Okay. Right? When you talk about, let's say, Steve Francis, right? Steve Francis had a superstar name, but he was only averaging like 16 points, 16-21, right?
Starting point is 00:52:28 But his name, elite. You know, sometimes some players' numbers are elite, but their name isn't elite. And some players, their name is elite, but the number's not elite. I hear you. You know, like, so with Brunson, he has to create this environment around his name for people to, when they hear it, they'll be like, oh, New York. I mean, he got to start winning. That's your New York. I mean, that's the only thing. It's personality, man.
Starting point is 00:52:51 He needs to create that. He's coming from, what, Villanova, right? Yeah. But that will happen with winning. He's playing in the biggest... But that's why I said the difference between him and Isaiah is because Isaiah was winning. Boston was right there who name is bigger
Starting point is 00:53:07 lemon daddy Or Brunson I Mean let me that it does have billboards all across his beautiful. That's what I'm saying. I'm in daddy played for the USA team exactly, but I'm gonna huh who was big yes, so did Brunson, but that's But but honestly no wait that's because we live here No, but I'm saying we got his own shoe one is in New York one is in a bigger market But that's what one has his own shoe. Okay. Well then where well, but that's They were sold out.
Starting point is 00:53:45 I tried to buy them. Too many other people wanted them before I could get to them. But that's what I'm saying. Think about it. One, we're talking about a lot and one is legit an all-star, all-NBA player. One isn't. But one name and... I hear you. It's a real thing.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And it's like... But that's wild though to say he's in literally the largest market in the country Playing for one of the most storied franchises. But I get what you're saying though, I hear you. But the Knicks haven't had like a personality in a while. Mello was the last one. Yeah, so like what do they need to... Jeremy Lin? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Like, think about that. For... Yeah. What? Yeah, Jeremy Lin is big. Who, who, who, who was bigger, him or Jeremy Lin? No, Jeremy Lin. No, Jeremy Lin is big. Who was bigger, him or Jeremy Lin? No, Jeremy Lin. No, Jeremy Lin had a...
Starting point is 00:54:28 Which is crazy being in a city like New York and you completely lack personality. When Jeremy Lin came to Milwaukee, I didn't know we had that many Asians there. That's what I'm saying. I think it's just his style reminds me of... I get my hands and feet done every week. Every week.
Starting point is 00:54:44 You remind me of it like that that uh It's a He's that solid. He's that solid He's that solid player that you know you gonna get it done every night Right when when you're talking about just guys who go out there and get it done like even with someone like Kawhi they had to create They had to create this atmosphere around Kawhi's game. Yeah, because the game itself looked boring They had to make him laugh one time. Hey, so would you say this if he would have stayed with Dallas next to Luca? Would his name be bigger? No, because when he was with Luca and they signed a hundred they second-guessed it
Starting point is 00:55:21 Right now we look now we look at it like he's underpaid Compared to his production. He's in New York and we're not talking about him. Imagine if he was in a smaller city. Even somebody like DeAndre Fox. Nobody knows. He's averaging 30. Neither one knows his name.
Starting point is 00:55:40 DeAndre Fox. We're talking about right here. Just say DeFox. Out of respect for DeAndre Fox, we got Derrington over here. DeAndre Fox. We got a thought talking about right here. Yeah, DeAaron Fox. Just say DeFox. Just say DeFox. Out of respect for DeAaron Fox, we got Derrington over here. DeAndre. You're not like names get stuck. You get like certain players names.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Exactly. Or we just got to start calling him Derrington Fox. I don't even know his name. I'm going to just, DeFox. DeFox. DeFox. DeFox. Damn, y'all.
Starting point is 00:55:59 DeFox. DeAaron Fox. Yeah, he was averaging 35. I know it's DeAaron. Still? DeAaron with a D on the front of it. Divox there. He was averaging 35. I know it's the Aaron Still there with a deal in front of you. I just it's just some Marcus man some Marcus man Like you you really have to build your own hype machine around your name
Starting point is 00:56:15 Who needs a big market? That's that's in the NBA that you think could help as a put in Bay player Hallie? He needs one. LaMelo Ball, if he wasn't hurt. What about Donovan? See, LaMelo Ball is fine because he started in a big market, which is L.A. Yeah, but I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:56:34 if he was in L.A. now, that might be a little different. Mitchell? This person, often. I don't know, because I don't know him, but I know Cleveland is kind of going- Nah. I feel like even Shea in OKC, he's doing a lot. Shea-
Starting point is 00:56:51 If Shea was in New York- He's doing a lot. If Shea was in New York, it'd be- I feel like him being in OKC kind of adds to that quirkiness of his personality. It's great for the league. It's great for the league. And him being from Canada and all that. He has been for the league, but if he was in New York-
Starting point is 00:57:04 Oh yeah, it would be even better. Yeah, but I just but if he was in New York, yeah Yeah, but I just think we're Shay and okay See we already seen him with Russ like we seen we seen that we seen the drip come through Yeah, Russell doing that MVP level. We already seen it. So he need to go to a Use in New York if he was back in Toronto. Yeah Yeah, I know he never had that. Yeah, you have your own there your own. Oh my So let's talk a little bit about Bradley bill now So suffer another blow bill suffered a right angle
Starting point is 00:57:33 Somebody caught somebody called the earring the Marcus Marcus Dr. Marcus, Dr. Marcus. Yeah, we gonna call him every D name but his own. But his own. So Bradley Bill left that game early in the first quarter with a right ankle injury, according to Shams. Likely to miss a few weeks. A little more duh. Testing showed no major ankle damage. I got these coughs, Gil.
Starting point is 00:58:03 You had me doing interviews all damn weekend. Touching hands. Getting breathed on, wasting all that good air. So Suns Big 3 has only played a total of 24 minutes together this season, four and six in their last ten games. We've been talking about waiting to see this Big 3, talking about it, talking about it. But now we need to ask the question,
Starting point is 00:58:23 how good are the Suns with Bill and how good are they without Bill? Shit, we don't know how good they are with Bill. We literally don't know. Hypothetically, I'm glad you did it. He always think I'm picking on him. I'm glad you did it. I mean, I was going to try and conjure up an answer, but I'm like, we literally don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:42 Y'all are not picking on me. We literally have no idea. But at what point do you start to get concerned now that we're not going to be able to see what this team actually looks like? I mean, I think on paper, you do need Bill. Like, when it comes down to playoffs, like, you're going to need him for what he's done and his resume. But the in and out is just going to keep hurting him. Like, the in and outs, it hurts every team. We've seen and out it hurts every team we've seen it with the Clippers we've seen it with Eric with Eric with every other team so I think without them they're gonna hurt yeah
Starting point is 00:59:13 they need them because I think Katie's he's doing too much yeah and it's not gonna be sustainable for the whole season it's that she man that she that she you have you know you have to go around. What is that shit? The incense? Sage. Sage. You might have to just sage the house, the car.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah, yeah. Like, people don't realize, like, when... Just think about, like, someone... We call them can't get rights, right? They can't get rights. It seems like once, like, something happens, it just keeps... Keeps going and going.
Starting point is 00:59:42 There's, like, a thing. Whenever you need yourself to be ready... Like, it was like... I done trained all summer six months did everything start the season two games boom done and you'd be like what i do to you you started asking a question come on what what i do this bad for you to keep putting me in these situations basketball is more than it's more than just basketball you got to be living right yeah and i'm not saying i don't know what guys do outside of basketball but if you ain't living right it's gonna show to like that's just real like Bradley Bill very right though In general I can guarantee you might even be Bradley Bill it might be yeah
Starting point is 01:00:16 That's what I'm saying locker room or it could be a curse around the Like it'd be bad energy. Yeah, when the janitor people with people with everyone Kyrie was about the same Just really say over there sage in the whole court, you know, what do you do when they cook when they go home? But maybe this Upcoming like it's just like one of those things man, wherever you wherever you your eyes look That's where your body's gonna. You know what I mean? So if you're thinking about getting injured, you're going to injure yourself. You're thinking about when people say, hey, don't miss the free throw.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Don't miss this free throw. And that's what you do because that's the only thing you're focusing on. Your mind is going to do what you're telling it to do. So I'm pretty sure while he was playing, his mind was probably don't get injured, don't get injured, don't get injured. And that's what ends up You know end up happening. There was it was a freak. You know, it was a free fall freak That's all social media to though man You got to get off the social media people tell you are you never gonna be this Ian or you injured or you this you?
Starting point is 01:01:15 Got to get off that social media comments, you don't look As a hooper but some of that shit is no it's draining season started I deleted it. Really? Like, you know, if you was today, you would not have your comments on why you're hooping. No, no, no. What I'm saying, on game day, like, when I played, on game day, like, they...
Starting point is 01:01:35 I remember when the media was getting mad because I wouldn't talk to them before the game, right? And it was like, how are y'all going to help me go out there and do my job? What are you going to tell me? What question are you going to ask going to help me go out there and do my job? What are you going to tell me? What question are you going to ask me to help me go perform? Nothing. So why am I talking to you? Because what you can do is you can mess me up. You can ask me a question, oh, this and that.
Starting point is 01:01:56 And you can put these negative thoughts in my mind before a game. So I didn't talk on the phone before the game. So I didn't look at my phone before the game until after we played. So on game day, I didn't see my phone until I got back home, 10 o'clock. Right? And then media, I'll talk to you after the game. You know what I mean? So I try to keep the environment as clean as possible.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Yeah. I'm going to do a better job of that this summer. Like, I have my phone out. I look at it at halftime sometimes. Like, that's stupid. I can tell you right now, you look at it and halftime sometimes. Like, that's, like, stupid. I can tell you right now, you look at it and you're like, yeah, Licks is playing like shit. You're like, oh, shit. The only time I'll look at my phone now is, like, because my dad will send me stuff at halftime sometimes.
Starting point is 01:02:37 It's helpful. Separate phone, that one. Just a separate family phone. Yeah, I'm going to have to get that because having your phone on game days is horrible. I mean, I'll take it. And I hope a lot of young guys are listening to you, what you said. That shit is real, bro. Like nothing, like no phone, no nothing, like lock in.
Starting point is 01:02:54 You ain't missing nothing. Like people, it's like... You got 48 minutes. It's trying to feel like, when it comes to being on, it's finding a rhythm, right? It's all about rhythm. It's all about consistency. It's all about consistency. I felt that if I drove the same way, ate the same thing, I'm going to perform the same way.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Then I'm going to figure out if I'm having a bad day. Instead of looking at the process, clean it. So there was times where you would see it like, I took a shower at halftime. Clean off whatever- I heard you would do that. If you had a terrible first half, they say you would going to locker room and just like yo clean shower and then Put a whole nother. Yeah, I'll shower get rid of that that bad energy put on new socks new shoes New Jersey and if we didn't have one because I used to throw it I just washed that one not literally wash it wring it out and I'll go out there wet with the wet jersey
Starting point is 01:03:42 Oh the wedge is no different than sweating Somebody said, too, like when you used to warm up, they said you used to do something. Somebody used to try to come mess with you, like you'd get mad. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Don't do that. Yeah. That's the worst. Because I used to do that. I'd go out there and get it and then somebody touches the ball and if you're not a shooter, you done put your vibe on it.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I wouldn't even shake. If you couldn't shoot the ball, we're not dapping up. Straight, it's going to be left. I believe it, bro. It was left hand. Because I'll be damned if I shake your hand. Boom.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Now you have a good game shooting. I got a bad game. I'm transferring my power. I believe in all that bullshit. But that is somebody that's so down. I believe in all that shit. So think about we're in the locker room, and I'm sitting I believed in all that shit like so think about we in the locker room and I'm sitting Like you you you
Starting point is 01:04:30 Elbow bump motherfucker elbow bump like even like with Larry Hughes I He used to bowl right and we'll bowl and be eating he wouldn't eat what is right his bowl hand Cuz he didn't want no grease on it That's fair right, But it's just like little things you start picking up that it becomes people habits. So I try to create all kind of habits and if something happened, boom, I shake
Starting point is 01:04:54 it. Jersey, socks, shoes. If I'm playing well, like you'll see some games where I like before I even did all the coloring, I'll change the shoes. I had a bad half. Get rid of them. Put on some new ones. Boom. Let's go out there. Yeah. All right, well, Phoenix, stage your arena. Yeah, it's all confidence. We'll pray for y'all. Stage it.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Stage that. Well, let's keep it in the West. We got to talk about another team on the rise. So, Gil, when the Harden trade first happened, you predicted the Clips could win at least ten straight games once they had some time to build chemistry. Pretty sure he said 20. Yeah, I didn't want to put too much extra on it. I know. But then you flipped and said it's the Clippers still, like a week later.
Starting point is 01:05:32 But nonetheless, we're just going to talk about the good shit. They haven't lost a game in December, are currently on a league-leading seven-game winning streak. Latest win in that streak, coming against the Knicks. End of video. So Kawhi dropped 36 points. He went 12 for 16 from the field five to six from three right there Never rebounds to four dimes two steals Efficient. Oh that guy right there needs to be in Paris to Who come to Hawaii? Oh, why Kawhi Leonard? He needs to be in Paris and Paul George
Starting point is 01:06:03 If you notice the trend is Julius Randle is getting a lot of these. Oh, my God. Getting rambled trying to guard Kawhi. Had me scared, but I held my own, though. Randle should have never cut his hair. He should have kept the head. I ain't about to cut that cheek. I want that cheek on.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Huh? I want that cheek. I want it out of here. I want that new. So Clippers dropped a season-high 144 points on 36 assists. I want that chi. I want that chi gone. Huh? I want that chi. I want it out of here. I want that new... So Clippers dropped a season-high 144 points on 36 assists. Kawhi is averaging 29 points, seven rebounds, four assists in his last 10 games with the
Starting point is 01:06:34 Clippers. Yeah, Kawhi. Is it about time we started mentioning Kawhi's name in the MVP conversation? Man, it's about time we started saying he, you know, that small forward position that he play. One of the best. You know, he might be above some people. Brandon, who do you feel like he might be above?
Starting point is 01:06:51 I mean, well, you got Bron, right? See, now you've made it difficult. Bron, KD. We got to go back to that one, that second one. I don't know. You putting Kawhi above Bron right now? No, no, no. Bron first, but that second one. I don't know. You putting Kawhi above Bron right now? No, no, no. Bron first, but that second one, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Crazy. I don't know. I don't know. That second one, I don't know. Crazy. I don't know. And Kawhi does too. Yeah, now in the last 10 games.
Starting point is 01:07:19 I mean, I'm healthy. All I'm saying is I don't know. I just don't know. We got to wait till they both finish. I think we should both wait till they finish. The end of the season help all I'm saying is I don't know I just don't know we got a way today both finish I think we should both wait till they finish into the season. No, no, the careers. Oh, it's not even close I mean, well, I gets another one if I mean, you know, they both got two rings to MVP finals Yeah, but ones MVP finally MVP final who kawaii's first MVP final ain't an MVP. Yes, it is I mean, I'm gonna 16, got burned for what?
Starting point is 01:07:47 I mean, it was... He got it. He got it. He got it. They just gave it to whoever guarded LeBron. Nah, nah. Look at his stats. This was his third year, fourth year.
Starting point is 01:07:59 He wasn't him yet. He was him enough to go get it though. Like with less is what I'm saying. him yet. He was him enough to go get it, though. With less, is what I'm saying. My argument is that Kawhi Leonard has had less to go win a championship. Twice. So, that's all I'm saying. I mean, he was on a championship team.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Not really. The one in Toronto I have mixed feelings about. Why? One, because the team was number one, the second, no, the one in Toronto, I have mixed feelings about. Why? One, because the team was number one, damn near every year. Yeah, but they- The only people, the only person that beat them- And everybody knew who Towner was.
Starting point is 01:08:33 It was LeBron, what did they call it? They was calling it, what? LeBron. LeBron. LeBron. Yeah, LeBron. LeBron. Yeah, LeBron.
Starting point is 01:08:40 LeBron, shout out LeBron. Yeah, so he leaves, LeBron Yeah, so he leaves LeBron leaves So that kind of Toronto was really kind of the the team notice go to state. No, no, no I'm talking about in the East They were kind of the team in the East once LeBron dipped the only person I was stopping him was LeBron They leave then if DeMar DeRozan was there they would have been Favorite right so he got there Something new playing here and there wasn't really like in there the whole time so for them to pull it off you buy
Starting point is 01:09:12 Oh, okay. He got my respect on that. I'm just 29 All I'm saying is all I'm saying let's just wait till they both finish. That's not even gonna be close though We don't know but yeah, Yeah, we do. We don't know, man. He ain't going to have no MVP. He ain't going to have no scoring title. It's not even about... It's not about scoring titles. He might win a ring. He might win a ring. He might.
Starting point is 01:09:36 He might. I mean, he has the talent too. That's what I'm saying. But it don't put him in front of KD as an individual. As an individual? I don't know, bro. I don't know. I just think healthy. I don't know, bro. I don't put him in front of Katie as an individual As an individual, I don't know bro, I don't know I just think healthy. I don't know bro. Oh, no I mean, maybe I'm being biased cuz he's from LA but I don't know he's coming. I do we claim. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, we claim it. Yeah, we claim it. Yeah, now stay. Yeah, you never know cuz I don't really I just don't know bro I don't I don't know. I'm not ready to just be like yeah
Starting point is 01:10:05 Yeah, nice. No He's like he's what he's like out. He's proved. He's proved me wrong He's proved me wrong. I thought he was just good in the Spurs system I thought he was only effective in a Spurs system That was my first take on him and And he's proved, so he's proved me wrong. So, I really can't, I said,
Starting point is 01:10:27 I can't never say nothing bad about him because he shut me the fuck up about the Spurs system. He shut me the fuck up about the Spurs system when he went to Toronto
Starting point is 01:10:36 and won that championship. I was like, I'm done, okay. So, Kawhi's first final was MVP 2014. LeBron averaged 28, 8 and 4,
Starting point is 01:10:43 two steals on 57% shooting. Uh-huh, I know. Kawhi averaged 18 average 18 6 2 but he's won the championship Yeah had better braids. I mean, it's the system we play and nobody was averaging like that. It's the system they played in Huh? We got a quiet Leonard one at what age? 23 yeah, they gave they couldn't give it to Tony Parker. They gave it to the they couldn't give it It was just one of those like no one really stood out. He was 22 years old 22 years old Yeah, it was like that your step right? It was like Steph like he didn't have a finals MVP Type of stat so they just gave it to you know, the nearest person that looked like he changed it He did lock up LeBron. He did like a brownie brother I was like like 37
Starting point is 01:11:32 19 and you know People like yo he shut down LeBron and then it was like do you see his stats like are we looking at the stats? I consider a shutdown 57% so you think in a three-point line? admirable job core LeBron to 28 I consider that a shutdown though. 57%? So you think that they- On that and a three-point line? Admirable job, Kawhi. I'm just saying, hell, LeBron at 28? On 57%? On 57%? That's lockups. So if Kawhi and KD play one-on-one healthy, who will win?
Starting point is 01:11:55 You think? I'm asking. I don't know, bro. You just looking like I'm just talking bullshit. I'm just asking. I mean, we're talking about a... You just got a refill, right? Yeah, a tiki punch.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I know it ain't a refill of water. It's a tiki punch, Gil. It's a tiki punch. No, no, that's a tiki punch. A tiki punch. What do you think, K? Whoever made tiki punch, you did your thing. Really?
Starting point is 01:12:20 I'm just saying one-on-one. I'm just saying one-on-one. Does it matter who starts with the ball? I mean, I'm just saying one-on-one if they at UCLA. One thing they do, they both can shoot that ball flat out. This is what I'm just saying one-on-one. I'm just saying one-on-one. Does it matter who starts with the ball? I mean, I'm just saying one-on-one if they at UCLA. One thing they do, they both can shoot that ball flat out. This is what I'm saying. I don't have an answer. I'm just saying we have to wait and see.
Starting point is 01:12:33 You can't just say one. We have to wait and see. Okay, in one-on-one aspect, right, no matter how many dribbles you put in, we know one thing, Kawhi ain't going by him fast enough. It's not like he's going to just take him off the dribble. That's not his game. Right?
Starting point is 01:12:49 So it's going to be all the fakes and this and the one-two step back. So it's going to be a slow-box type of game. So he's going to be easier to stop than KD. KD can one-two get to the rim on Kawhi. Because Kawhi don't move very well left to right. Kawhi's stronger. And he's a jump for two. Yeah, he's stronger, yeah he's stronger.
Starting point is 01:13:05 I mean. No. It'll depend. I mean, I mean. I think it depends on what rules are put in place. I'm just not ready to just put anybody ahead of anybody yet. It don't matter what. Unless you like solidify like.
Starting point is 01:13:15 It don't matter what rule you put in, just it's. Yeah. So will it be like 2A, 2B? Or one has to be a. That's what I'm thinking right now. What rule? I'm waiting to see to it finish. That shit got to finish.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Like, we know Braun won. We know Steph won. But everybody else, we got to wait and see. Oh, no. Even Kawhi's accolades won't match up. Remember his first couple years, he was not like that. We're just talking game. We're just talking game.
Starting point is 01:13:44 So we asked the chat, should Kawhi be in the MVP race? There's going to be no watch. No. 44% said yes. 56% said no. Kawhi haters. Why y'all hate a man with brains? No, no, no. Because he's playing well now. Yeah, we're talking now. That's what I'm saying. I guarantee
Starting point is 01:14:00 they win six, seven, eight more games in a row. I mean, by the end of the season He gonna be top four. Okay I'm gonna be taller MVP voting if they go if they're playing the way they're playing right now, they keep on that run. Hell Yeah, they got the talent to do it. So like the thing is that I ain't gonna be honest Embiid got this. I'm sorry. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:14:23 How we was looking at Yogi's last year, this is Jokic. MB right now, this is all his. It's all his. I don't even know who in the MVP conversation. What we were saying last year- Jokic, Luka, Giannis, who else was it? I don't even know who in the MVP conversation. It's MB by himself.
Starting point is 01:14:39 It is MB and everybody else. Yeah, we can throw in the other two. We can throw in Luka two we can throw in Luca and and yeah, I don't yeah we can throw in your kids But right now and beat is by himself. He's one a and one B bringing America's back. Shout out Joel and B Yes, like I said America Joel would be and be soon as you turned American boom Soon as you like, US citizen. I knew that. Boy. US citizen, Joel and B, bringing America. US of A.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Putting America on his back. Yeah. US citizen. And he on the USA team. US citizen, Joel and B. So him and AD going. Ooh. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Right? Yeah. That's all we need. Man, we woo. Right? Him and A. Ooh. That's Jimmy. I got you.
Starting point is 01:15:23 I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. Right? Yeah. That's what we do. Man, we... Ooh. Right? Him and a... Ooh. Ooh. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:15:29 He got to go against Goldberg. Guess who you put? KD at our four. KD LeBron at the four? No. KD at the four. LeBron at the three. Oh, you mean starting?
Starting point is 01:15:41 Yeah, starting. Oh, yeah. You're going to go what? MB, KD, LeBron, Tatum, mean starting? Yeah, starting. Oh, yeah, you're going to go what? Embiid, KD, LeBron, Tatum, and Steph. That's a nice five. Lemon Daddy off the bench? Okay, I like it.
Starting point is 01:15:54 Lemon Daddy ain't seeing the floor. Lemon Daddy might not make the trip. You better go play for Germany. I'm sorry, I'm not doing it. If I'm going to have my last player on the team, it's going to be Ja. That's the type of talent I want off the bench. I want people mad that they ain't playing. Paul George? You see Paul George making it?
Starting point is 01:16:11 It depends on if it's unbiased. If you go and say, all right, this is a real tryout, everybody's actually trying out besides my starting five. Yeah. Because I'm starting five, and everybody, like, tryout. That's where we need to go. Then, you know, then the best players are going to play. But if not, if I'm not going to go, if I'm going to pick, then I'm going to go whoever made first team, second team, and third team.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Let's go. I'm going to like that. So it's going to get spicy. Mm-hmm. All right. Okay. All right, let's move back to the... It's going to be hard.
Starting point is 01:16:42 I mean, it's always hard. Bro, this might be the most legendary team we take right now. I mean, it's always hard. Bro, this might be the most legendary team we take right now. I mean, it's so hard. We can't... No, no, no. We can't really... It is going to be legendary if they go by the first two. If they go by 92 and 96, if they go by their method, then yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:58 That 96 team, man, that's what I'm saying. Hakeem, MVP won the MVP the next year. He came off the bench. Sha. He came off the bench. Shaquille came off the bench. In 96? Yes. Damn. He averaged 29 and like 13.
Starting point is 01:17:13 He came off the bench. Shaq came off the bench. Those boys came off the bench on that team. That's how, that's what I'm talking about. And y'all said. I want Hall of Famers on the bench. You said Dame on the team? What did you say about Dame?
Starting point is 01:17:30 He's on the squad? I'm sure. I'm sorry. No, I said I don't... It depends on what I'm trying to get. I don't think he makes it. I don't know. I just, like, I'm going with Gil.
Starting point is 01:17:40 I think we need five flyers. We need, like... I'm trying to jump over the Euro. Yeah, like, we already got Steph and KD, and they're going to be in Jason Tatum. That's enough three-point shooters. Okay, well... And that line is already...
Starting point is 01:17:56 It's already close. I don't need no... So, Damon's dropped 30 points in nine of his last 24 games, including the last two. Gave the Rockets 39 and 11 assists on Sunday. Three-point percentage every month has increased dramatically. 29.6% October, 33.6% November, 41.5%. He got his eyes open, huh? He won't, he won't.
Starting point is 01:18:28 The other team is waking up. We knew that was going to happen. He's waking up. His field goal percentage has also improved every month. So how much longer do you feel like until Dame is fully adjusted to this Bucs style of play? And what are you seeing from him so far this season? I think he's adjusted. I think, you know, right now, you you know the hard work is really paying off so you know him and Giannis have
Starting point is 01:18:50 found their groove. This is just as the rest of the team that needs to figure out you know how to be effective you know with them two on the court. Yeah. Yeah and I think the biggest thing is like you know he's coming to a situation where they have championship expectations So, you know, he has to learn how to play different, you know He has to learn different ways in different avenues of how to get his shots and things like that. So I Think he's gonna be alright. I think give him to all-star. It'll be ready to turn it on But I mean he's actually playing for something now, you know
Starting point is 01:19:22 That's what happens when you come to the 414. You actually play for something now. Okay, you come to what? Millie Wauke, the good land. Millie Wauke. Let's talk a little bit about Chris Middleton. I think that'll kind of be the X factor for that Bucs squad this year, but he's averaging lowest points in minutes per game since his second season in the league.
Starting point is 01:19:40 He's in year 12 now. How important to Middleton is that third option, Gil, for the Bucs' long-term success this season? I mean, it is. I mean, they're not going to be able to win the championship with him not playing well. Right? He's, he's, I don't know if it's the injuries, injuries plus being old, you know, older now. You know, there's only so, there's only so long we can say, all right, you know, his injuries is, you know, his injuries is holding him down because at this point, Giannis and Dame don't have that kind of luxury anymore to be like, all right, we'll see you next year,
Starting point is 01:20:16 right? Because I'm pretty sure if he don't bounce back and they don't win it or get to the championship, they can send his ass right where Drew's at in Boston. I know, a horrible team to send him to, but he can send him there. How much is he making this year? Like money? I never liked the pocket watch, but I think he signed to what, 93? Three-year 93, right?
Starting point is 01:20:41 About 30 million a year. I mean, being a Bucs fan, you know, a Bucks fan, of course, I mean, but business wise, I mean. 29 million? 29 million, 29.3. I mean, being a Bucks fan, but business wise, I mean, you know, might be time to move on. Randy, come on. And I'm not saying that in a, like, bro,
Starting point is 01:21:06 like, you've done what you've done, like, you know, everything, but if you can't, you know, stay healthy and, you know, us getting Dame
Starting point is 01:21:12 and things are changing, you know, he got some value and he got money that where we can, you know, move some pieces. Malik Beasley,
Starting point is 01:21:20 he over there? Yeah, Middleton signed through, he has a player option 2025, 2026, so he's making 29 this year, close to 32 next year, 34 with that player option. Yeah, he needs to play. For them to have a chance, for them to be favored,
Starting point is 01:21:36 we were expecting Middleton to play like an all-star. So if he's playing like an all-star, you know, averaging 20, 21, playing his D, then, yeah, you know, that team would be, you know. But he's not, right? And that's why they still look beatable. How much of that injury, though, minutes restrictions, kind of getting this shit back together? But I'm saying at what point now?
Starting point is 01:21:59 You get them to at least be on the all-star break? Yeah. To really see what's going on? Yeah, they're not going to trade him this year. No, I'm not saying, but we'll have a better sense come February, March, where Middleton's really at. Yo, are you guys expecting
Starting point is 01:22:11 the Bucks to win this year? Like, win it all? I mean, it would be nice. Because if they don't... Win it all? Yeah, because if they don't, is that like a failed year? Year one?
Starting point is 01:22:21 I mean, you make that Dame trade, I think... Right, right, right. Steps to success. With everything Giannis has put pressure on this franchise, I want to be a champion. So I'm just asking you guys. For sure, but I'm asking,
Starting point is 01:22:31 does it matter if they win it this year? Or is it because, oh, they got Dame this summer, or, you know what I'm saying, we can wait until next year? Then we have to really have that discussion. Are they better than Boston? Right now. Right now. Are they better than Boston? Right now. Right now.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Are they better than Boston in the seven-game series with Middleton playing the way Middleton's playing? No. No. Then no. If we can say we don't think they're better than Boston right now, then no. Then if they don't win it, no. It's not a failed year. If we want to be delusional, why are you saying it's not a failed year?
Starting point is 01:23:04 We know that they're not as good as Bucs. That's we, though, but I'm saying if I'm the Bucs, Giannis, apply the pressure. We got Dame for you, Giannis. You're the best player in the league right now other than Embiid dropping 64 pieces. You've got to win me a chip, Chief. If you're Bucs and you really think you're the best team in the East right now with the way your roster's set set then you are delusional How many years did Dame sign?
Starting point is 01:23:29 So Dame is under contract through Here the player option in 26 So they got two years to figure it out like y'all just for two years for 64 right they got two years to figure it out Yep They got two years to figure it out. Yup. What is that? I hear you. So, we know what it is. Right? You scored 64 points.
Starting point is 01:23:53 I mean, when did Steph score 60 points on any of his championship teams? I would say never. You know, the fact that he still got to do that type of heavy lift and let you really know. Oh, it shows you about the team. Got it. You know, so it's basically just a one, two-man show, so him and Dame, right? Mm.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Fair. Well, we will see, but we got to give Giannis some love for breaking Kareem Buck's rebounding record. And he broke that too? Word of the day. Wait. I think Kareem's Bucks rebounding record. They broke that too? Word of the day. Wait, Kareem? I think he got all the records. But unlike the Pacers game, they made sure.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Got that quickly. Give me the serial number. Let's go. There we go. Holding that thing. It's going to be a thing. Yeah, for sure. Because it was a thing.
Starting point is 01:24:39 It's going to be a thing. Shout out to Marcus Johnson on the call. Daddy gives it to the equipment man. Equipment manager took it. Looked like gray hair JJ Reddick. Oh, Childish. No, but that was a thing. That was a thing.
Starting point is 01:24:51 No, I know, but it's Childish that they have to do all that to make sure that they get the ball. And we want to send some love to Kareem, who was hospitalized recently after falling and breaking his hip cap. We hope everything is good. You know we love you. So now let's take it. Did he fall down something? I think he was at a concert or something. They say he's at a concert Yeah, he was telling the kid fuck off kid
Starting point is 01:25:12 No, I'm just like here's the way he was at a con. We don't we don't know what concert it was I'm just hoping it was He was in a crowd or in the boot in the booth, yes walking I mean, you just be wondering. That's a long fall. Kareem turning up. Kareem is having these streets. Rams games, concerts.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Is it Astroworld? Where the fuck was he at? No, I'm just asking. I know Anita Baker on the road. I'm trying to figure out. She's kicking everybody out. But you had a concert. Not Astroworld. A concert? What the fuck? Was it Mosh Pit? I'm trying to go see oh, but you had a concert like
Starting point is 01:25:49 What is my speed it would I'm trying to go see Anita Baker. Hope she remember her lines Yeah, just get well soon man stay away from Astroworld I guess cuz they know now it wasn't no bro He was not at that time. He was not at that type of concert. Believe me So let's talk about The break you hit you got to be at something that's popping like that. I mean, let's talk about... To break your hip you gotta be at something that's popping like that. I mean... So let's talk about these Timberwolves. Please, please. That shit ain't happening no more.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Al Green. Turn off the lights. You ain't getting popping over there. Y'all don't take shit serious. We talking about charisma. Like how did we get here? It's too soon. How did we get here?
Starting point is 01:26:19 The news dropped yesterday. The news dropped yesterday. The news dropped yesterday. The news dropped yesterday. The news dropped yesterday. The news dropped yesterday. The news dropped yesterday. The news dropped yesterday. The news dropped yesterday. I don't take shit serious For these kind of jokes y'all the wolves are the second best team in the league No, I'm just saying what you know, I'm trying to figure out how to wiggle out of this. Help. Help.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Help. Do you blame it on chat? Chat? Chat is false. Chat is false. You got to blame it on somebody. You know what? We're going to get Kareem on the show, and I hope he hits you with some of that same
Starting point is 01:26:56 shit he hit Bruce Lee with. Not with that hip. See? See? You thought I was going to say it. No, no. Hey, y'all know I'm too immature for shit like this. You lobbed that one.
Starting point is 01:27:07 You lobbed this one. I'm trying to make you better, all right? Fuck off, Keith. There's steps to success. Chat. I'm going to a therapist right after this. Good job, Keith. Can't cancel me.
Starting point is 01:27:19 I'm going to a therapist. That's a new thing. What a new thing. Can't cancel me. I'm going to get gill's been suspended for the next 25 episodes i'm going to counseling can't cancel me because you feel some type wolves have the second best record in the league three game lead in the west and one of the deepest rosters in the league so they faced the pacers recently tyrese halliburton was not in action
Starting point is 01:27:43 but the league's number one defense locked up the Pacers' top offense. Again, without Tyrese Halliburton, that's preference for everybody in the chat who's snooty-booty. But Cat dropped 40 points, 12 rebounds, and pieced them up for 37 as well. So Cat's name was mentioned in a bunch of trade rumors. But as I'm looking at this Timberwolves squad, man, I've gotten to watch a lot more of them. Because now I actually give a fuck. They got a team man, I know the young I know all the things that Playoff experience whatever but this man send a video
Starting point is 01:28:14 Send the video baby Shout out it Shout out it buckets. So I had a cat at 40 and had 37 7 for 10 from 3 But after the game Pacers head coach Rick Carlisle put some respect on the Wolves name saying This is one of the best teams on the planet went on to say they're very real very legit This team is built for the playoffs. Do you agree with Rick Carlisle that this Timberwolves team is built for the playoffs? Yes, I mean, um, you'll get shaded first, you know They said that was the hardest thing that they played for the playoffs. Yes. I mean, you'll get shitted first. You know, they said that was the hardest team that they played in the playoffs,
Starting point is 01:28:52 which, you know, kind of made us a little salty, you know, as a labor of fans. Kind of like, what you saying? You know, but, you know, to make that statement, you know, when you played KD and Booker second round, you played LeBron and AD, and, you know, in the finals, in that Western Conference finals, to say that your first round was the hardest, it kind of should have put everybody with their antennas up. And, you know, here's your second step.
Starting point is 01:29:20 You know, and the killer piece about them is they got Mike Conley. They got a vet point guard, like somebody that can control the floor, run the plays, that's, you know, played on, you know, great teams in the NBA. So, damn, yeah, they're going to be all right. Lexi, what did you think about the Timberwolves this season? I like that Cat is in the paint more. Like, I think last year he settled for a lot of outside shots, and I think that he had a conversation. He looked at film. I don't know what he did, but I see him banging a lot more down low and making a lot of outside shots. And I think that he had a conversation.
Starting point is 01:29:45 He looked at film. I don't know what he did, but I see him banging a lot more down low and making a lot of post moves into the free throw line. And he's just way more effective down there. He can still shoot well. Didn't he win the three-point contest recently, Cat? I mean, but. That's a good shot.
Starting point is 01:30:00 He won a three-point contest? Pretty sure he did, right? Fact check me, please. That sounds probably right. I'm pretty sure he won a three-point contest like the last three years. 2022, but you know our thoughts on the elements of NBA All-Star Weekend.
Starting point is 01:30:16 That was last year? 2020, yeah. Oh, it was last year. No, no, no. It would be two years ago. Steph won it last year, right? Yeah, so he's a good shooter, but... Same one last year.
Starting point is 01:30:28 So that's probably what happened. He won three-point contests. Now I think he's a shooter. Now he's kind of found a nice, healthy balance. And I think that's definitely helping the Timberwolves. So Wolves threatened the Nuggets last year. Nuggets should end up in a similar position this year, probably get smacked by the Lakers, but that's for another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy Wolf Wolf.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Do you feel like the Wolves are the biggest threats to the Nuggets to repeat in the West? Probably the way the lineups are matched up, they do have a four and a five. So they have a big enough team to really compete with the Jokic and that Nuggets team. As far as the T-Wolves? The West, yeah, just the West. Other than the Lakers, NBA Cup world champion. Yeah, I mean, I agree with Gil.
Starting point is 01:31:27 With the 4-5, we talk about you have to be a big team and have a big lineup between Minnesota and the Lakers. They're, like, really the only two that have... Minnesota, Lakers, Phoenix. The legit, like, 4-5. I mean, Gobert got a lot of... Gobert could get healthy. Gobert gets a lot of...
Starting point is 01:31:42 Haidt got choked out, but he's been balling as well. I'm just being honest. Clippers is in there. Mm-hmm shit. I'm now I mean listen man It's looking like that tray was alright with the Clippers. Yeah, we're still too small. No, we'll see man Yeah, quiet. We got quiet. Kauai has to guard your kids Huh? Kauai has a guard your kids. Yeah Zuba. No, they got Zuba Well, it's upubat. Ooh. When they sub. Listen, man, you got six of them.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Figure it out. I mean, I think when you look at that Timberwolves squad, though, you got Gobert and Cabot. You also got Nas Reid, who... Who's been balling. Mm-hmm, Nas Reid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's been balling.
Starting point is 01:32:17 Balling. And not really a traditional big. He could take Jokic out behind three and give him some shit. But he got to guard him to another side. Why didn't nobody just go get... Let's go get Dwight Howard or something. Go get a big. And then, Lexi, to your point about Kat.
Starting point is 01:32:33 So Kat last year was averaging close to six three-point attempts, only 9.1 two-point attempts. This year, 11 two-point attempts, under five three-point attempts. So he's definitely backed off a little bit from that three-point line after claiming I'm the greatest big man shooter of all time back in 2021. We have fun with that one. But let's keep this thing moving. We also got to show a little bit of love to King sophomore for Keegan Murray.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Dropped 47 points on the jazz, including 12 three-pointers. Murray's 12 threes are the most in a single game by a second year player in NBA history. Not gonna talk about it just gonna show them love as we keep this show moving. So let's talk about Tyrese Halliburton. Murray is one of the best point guards in the league. This season he's averaging close to 26 points, 12 assists. Halliburton did an interview with KG recently, has some interesting things to say about how the point guard position has changed in this era. To be honest I don't think basketball is about a pure point guard anymore. It's not a thing. It's kind of fizzling out of the game because when you're a kid, you're always
Starting point is 01:33:32 told you need to do more. You know what I mean? And so you see the top guys in the game, they're always doing more and I think that comes from, you know, the era before us like like Bron and guys like that who hit 10 assists, 10 rebounds, 25. You know what I mean? So like, we've always been looked at, we need to do more. And so I think the peer point guard is kind of going out of the game and you're looked at to do, to do kind of everything. Interesting. Bron's influence on the point guard position. No, don't. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:34:04 Just hosting. I'm just hosting. Has Salabur always been a point guard? Like, he was a point guard in college. I already know why. He's kinda just gravitated to this point guard position cuz he has the ball all the time. He's been a point. He's always been a point.
Starting point is 01:34:18 That's a good question. I don't know cuz I didn't follow him in college, so I don't know. The pure point guard was an illusion when Magic came into the league. He came in as a shooting guard, but his vision was so good that they had this shooting guard that can pass the ball. Then they moved him to the small forward Ford and then eventually got rid of Norm Nixon brung in a Guard that can actually just stick the point guards, but just give magic the ball right and how he was playing a game They said this is what a pure point guard need to look like so you started drafting guys who thought about making everyone better
Starting point is 01:35:04 those guys actually never won the John Stockton's the drafting guys who thought about making everyone better. Those guys actually never won. The John Stocktons, the before Jason Kidd got, you know, before him, you're talking about Nash, those type of guards actually never won. Because the thought behind it is if your guard is making you better, that means you're not that fucking good, right? What point guard was making Michael Jordan better? What point guard was gonna make Kobe Bryant better, right? You can't make those guys who are already good, right?
Starting point is 01:35:38 So the fact that this guy is getting you open shots when he can't get you the ball, that means you can't do it yourself. So when I did the history of take away Magic and then go from Magic Johnson all the way till today, the point guard on the championship team, the average was 4.1 assists that season. So you remember you got the, Tony Parker was pretty high up there. Tony did Rondo average. The year Rondo won a championship, he only averaged five. That was Rondo's second year.
Starting point is 01:36:12 They didn't want Rondo, right? Yeah. You remember you got Derek Fisher has about five. Kenny Smith is gonna have some. You got Mario, Charmers, right? You gotta think about the point guards too. So the best point guard with assists the highest is
Starting point is 01:36:28 Kyle Lowry is one Jason kid and Avery Johnson so you saying just for the season right for the season what that point guard average so the guy who really You know sitting there passing so you can look into NBA and say alright any guard that averages over eight assists, your chance of winning a championship is not going to happen. Right? So me and Ernie Grunfer, we used to do that. It was like, if you was a GM, what type of guard would you go? And that's what made me do the studying of, I would have stayed away from the Chris Paul's type of guards the Alonzo ball type of guards and I want a guard who can just give me everything right I don't want I don't need you trying because you know that scoring guard is a new thing too I want a guard who can either just flat out shoot and
Starting point is 01:37:18 play defense and have my best player as the guy who has the ball all the time so a lot of these guards wouldn't have went high. In my draft? Yeah. That's interesting the way you put it. Even somebody like Hallenburton, right? What you're good at, it's like, ah. It's not going to win me a championship.
Starting point is 01:37:37 It's not going to win me a championship. I would rather have more of the like you see Steph. If you look at his championship wins, he's not the leading assist man on there. It's Draymond Green. Right? I would, you know, like DeAndre Fox. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:54 D-Fox. DeAaron D-Fox. Oh, my God, Gil. D-Fox, come on. Because I'm DeAndre Jordan, man. I like DeAndre Jordan. My bad. DeAaron is a star in this league.
Starting point is 01:38:04 How can he fucking be Aarons? That's not a common name, but I'm saying that you make it even easier. Do you know? Don't blame me, but like there are five we started But like that because if I have like let's say how I have a Tatum right I have a Tatum the balls gonna be in his hand so much that I can't have a guard that's sitting there trying to get tennis's so if you look at the teams like Philly
Starting point is 01:38:31 Philly You have Milwaukee and you have Boston those three point guards. They don't average seven assists Right so their chance to win the championship is up. Right? If you look at Murray over there, who leads that team in assists? Jokic, right? You got, you know, the Lakers, right?
Starting point is 01:39:02 And you have the Clippers. You can see what teams... I go off their point guard. Their point guard's averaging eight assists. That means the team ain't that good, and I'm good. That's what I said. Halliburton averages 12. Now, you take the ball out of his hand, who can actually run that team?
Starting point is 01:39:17 Nobody. But, I mean, look at that team, too. So I don't think that's fair to Tyrese because that's what he has to do for that squad. But that's what I'm saying. To even be able to be competitive. Now, if you put him with LeBron, is he going to have his 12 assists? If you put him with Giannis, is he going to have his 12 assists?
Starting point is 01:39:32 So that's what I'm saying. His chances of winning the championship is when his assist numbers go down. I think you put him with Giannis. Because he has a teammate that can do it himself. Yeah, because we need you to put the ball in the hoop. The idea of the game is to put the ball in the hoop. He needs a teammate that can do it himself. He has none right now.
Starting point is 01:39:46 Like when you think about a Paul George, perhaps. That's why Kyrie's so viable. Yeah, that's why Kyrie. You know, his five, six assists, that means he's just scoring. I just need you to be effective. I don't need you to sit there and... That's why when they say make your teammates better... It doesn't always mean pass.
Starting point is 01:40:04 That is a flaw compared to the stats. The stats of these championship teams is that's not the case. The point guard ain't making the team better. So, good question for you. Like Avery Johnson, right? The legend. Avery Johnson, big fan of the show,
Starting point is 01:40:19 saw him in Los Angeles. No, no. Tell Gil, watch Gil's read that thing. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. He was the number... He was the first point guard to average those type of assists
Starting point is 01:40:28 that won a championship, but he wasn't the main factor on that team. Gotta play the game about it. But when you look at Tyrese, where's number zero? Does he have any Hibachi in him, any Agent Zero in him? He's a whole different breed.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Like, I'm not even gonna lie. Like, what he's... Like, he came out of nowhere and really just established himself. Yeah. I was impactful on that
Starting point is 01:40:52 get in the bucket, but when you're talking about the whole game itself, he seemed like he's more impactful than I was. Mine was just scoring. His is putting the ball in the basket and getting the ball to a bunch of sorry players around.
Starting point is 01:41:10 See, I wasn't passing the sorries. But you're also playing a different time. We talked about this before, but we take you at the peak of your game, those mid-2000s, early 2000s, mid-2000s, and now put you in this NBA. High scoring, faster pace.
Starting point is 01:41:26 I will probably average like 35 points a game, maybe seven, eight assists. Which? There's a little bit more. A little bit more, but there's passes he's making that I'm not doing that. I'm too close to this rim. Even the 60-point game, Kobe's passing the ball to players that I wouldn't even thought about passing it to. Like, he's literally, all right, Luke Walton at the three. I'm like, oh.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Like, I see, like, you got to take a charge of me for me to pass to the corner guy. Kobe's like, all right. I'm like, oh, dang. I'm looking at the game like, damn, I have to do this. You know what I'm like, oh, dang, I'm looking at a game like, damn, I have to do this. You know what I'm saying? You're making, like, when people call you a ball hog, you're, like, you average 35, but you're making passes that, no. I hate that term, ball hog. Man, you're like, you're making passes that I didn't make.
Starting point is 01:42:17 And right, and it's like that, you know, that's the. So, Lexi, what do you think about the current state of point guards in the league and also in the W as well? I think in the W we definitely still have more pure point guards. Like I would say Chelsea Gray is the best example of that with Vegas. The way she leads that team and the way, the passes she makes, like not a lot of players are making passes like that. I mean I play with a really good pure point guard in Jordan, but she, Jordan
Starting point is 01:42:45 Canada, if y'all don't know, but she, you know, upped her score in this season. I'm actually looking forward to if she does decide to come out, how Kaitlyn Clark's game will translate, because people consider her like one of those do-it-all point guards, kind of like a Halliburton type player. And we haven't really seen a point guard like that, for real, in the W. No, not Phoenix Suns. I mean, not Phoenix. Who?
Starting point is 01:43:16 Diana? Wasn't that her early years? I've never considered Diana a point guard. She just has the ball a lot. But now, since I've been playing against her, she'll bring the ball, she'll initiate the offense,
Starting point is 01:43:33 but she's not a point guard. Yeah, she's not, yeah. She just gets rid of the balls, just get it back. But she has the ball all the time. And then Brandon, for yourself, I mean, we talked about this before the show. You were a scoring point guard,
Starting point is 01:43:44 also a pure point guard, just depending on whatever the situation called for be had ability to do both You talk about high school average 35 a game We're playing that McDonald's game what 12 13 assists when you had the personnel to be able to just be a pure point guard So how does that point guard position evolved from when you were in the league to now? They're scoring more way more I think I think Gil was like the first beginning of a point guard scoring for us. Like when I was in high school, Gil had me, come on, I had your shoes and everything. So that's what translated my game, watching Gil and seeing like,
Starting point is 01:44:15 you know, Gil score all those points. And, and, you know, by the time I left SCA, you know what I'm saying? That, that year with Kevin Love, I became a scorer, like my senior year. But that's all because I was watching Gil. So it was like, well, I got to be able to score to be able to be this top guard. And now I think it's so bigger now, but now they're just doing all of it. Now they're finding a way, because the point guard has the ball so much, now he's scoring, now he's passing everything, so you have the ball so much now he's scoring now he's passing everything so you have the ball so much when i first came in it was more like you know get the guys you know the ball run through boom boom boom now it's more just like you know the point guard's making every play every time
Starting point is 01:44:53 down so but i mean that's why i average 35 because watching the kill highlights man i like i don't studying like i you know i mean i'm just i'm you know you're sitting there trying to figure out, Jason Kidd is this dominant maker to the championship. How does he lose to the other point guard, Derek Fisher? Brian, how are you losing to these guys and he is dominant and realize that if we remove both point guards, we remove both point guards, right, we remove you, who's going to be the guy that actually is taking the team over?
Starting point is 01:45:31 So when you can't make these passes, you got to play in half court, how are you going to be dominant? How is your team going to be dominant? You know, Fisher, you got Kobe, you got Shaq. Yeah. Right? Yeah. You know, and then you got Gasol, and you have Kobe, you got Shaq. Yeah. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:45 You know, and then you got Gasol, then you have Kobe. The point guard, you know, ain't involved. Right? He's just a guy who's gonna stick to the point guard, make the open shot, or play D. Yeah. That's what history has shown us. Yeah. And then when I first, like when I first came in my rookie year, like it wasn't, I don't
Starting point is 01:46:03 know, it was different. Like, I mean, I came in scoring. Mm-hmm. Like, you know, you had me, Steph, we came in scoring, and like it wasn't i don't know it was different like i mean i came in scoring like you know you had me staff we we came in scoring and then you were scoring but it wasn't really a lot of guards to where it's like damn i gotta worry about this guard going for fucking 30 or something tonight like it was more like you know you had them steve nash point guards where you know like you said 13 and 7 like a lot of these starting point guards so it wasn't really like like like you didn't have to really worry about, damn, somebody going to go for 40 on me tonight. Like, yeah, okay, if you caught Gil,
Starting point is 01:46:28 if you caught, you know, Steve Nash might have 15 and 15, but Rondo having six and 11 or, you know, 12. It wasn't like, you know, I mean, Darren Williams 20 and 10, you know, some guards, but it wasn't like you had to worry every night. Now it feels like...
Starting point is 01:46:42 Now every night. Yeah, those nights are a lot more often. Now it's like every night. But that's why I said it's like those nights are a lot more often. every night. That's why I said it's trying to figure out because the stats, this new gen where they're averaging
Starting point is 01:46:54 30 and 11, 20, 60 and 11, it's still trying to figure out what guard is still inside that mode. Right now, it's really shade. Shade, if you take the algorithm that I use,
Starting point is 01:47:10 Shea is like that championship mode, right? DeBron Fox, you know, I might as well just keep changing it. DeFox? DeBron Fox. Right, you got him. Like, Trae Young, you're passing it too much. Luka. Luka, you're passing it too much.
Starting point is 01:47:31 For Luka to average that many assists, that means you don't have a guy that's going to sit here. But you do have Kyrie, so that might be... Luka's 33. Luka should be averaging 40. 33 and 9. I'm just saying, he's still giving you 33. He should be averaging 40, though. He said, fuck it, yeah, I'll just give you my 40. Like low-key, fuck them 9 assists. But 33 and 9 I'm the same still give you 30 He should be average in but doesn't but yeah, I just give my life like low-key fuck the Niner said That's what I'm saying, but it's weak, but the rest of his team is weak right if you had a fuck
Starting point is 01:47:53 If he had a better team if he got some players like that Okay, how much is um how many assists is maxi averaging that lets you that lets you know the mode? Right when you have a guy guy like Embiid. So he's averaging 7 assists, 6.7. So 26, 6.7 assists. 6.7. So he's right there as a championship guard. You have a guy who's averaging 34 points on your team.
Starting point is 01:48:16 So that means you take Maxie off. You have a guy that's averaging 34 points on your team. With Luka, with a Murray average. He averaged about 6 assists. I'm pretty sure. Six, seven, around that time. You need, like, for your, like, you can't average 12 assists with a dominant, dominant player on your team. Because that ball is stopping for him.
Starting point is 01:48:35 Right. So I'm saying, Luka can average 40, bro. How many assists were you going to get with Shaq and Tim Duncan? Nothing. Because you got to, boom. You got to pass it right Duncan? Hakeem how many you know, yeah Kenny Smith like that ball is going to big fella down there. You can't you So you saying though the whole pure point guard thing delusion so it was delusion It is delusion it was delusion for the beginning. Magic Johnson threw everybody off.
Starting point is 01:49:05 But even Magic scored. I know, but they looked at what Magic was doing. They took that one person and tried to create a formula. We need Magic Johnson. We need this guy. He is like Jordan. He's like Shaquille. He's like Wimby.
Starting point is 01:49:22 That guy is not... You can't pick that motherfucker up at the mall. Are we going to have to name the position something else? So do we need to change the point guard starting five? Like top five ever then? Because if you put it like that, all that pure shit don't get nothing. No, no, no. Now think about it.
Starting point is 01:49:40 If you take Steph out and you say... Like even someone... What was Isaiah Thomas' assist like? Now think about it. It's like a scoring point guard. If you take Steph out and you say, like even someone, what was Isaiah Thomas' assists like? The original Isaiah? Yeah. Four or five assists. No, you got Stephon Marbury there, 20 and nine.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Stephon Marbury, 20 and nine. He was averaging that much? Yeah. How about the years he won that ring? Because I'm pretty sure I had him in there. Where was he out of it? No, no, I'm talking about for that season No, yeah, and I'm a wife so him and magic the one and two then everybody probably wouldn't even be champions, right?
Starting point is 01:50:26 Without without thinking like if you put if you had a top five and you didn't have Steph in it right who's the champion it'll be them two you're gonna they're gonna throw Jason Kidd in now because he won championship at the end of his career but for the most part they wouldn't have been champions when they were dominant players besides them two. I mean the key word a point guard is point huh yes he's Stockton that's what I said he didn't win the championship Nash didn't win the championship Jason Kidd got one at the back of end of his career let's talk a little bit about Steph who said he's him and magic top two point guards all time Steph said he's better than Magic.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Someone threw in... Kills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. There's something that you got to ask yourself. Okay, so he hit... When Magic hit him with the... He's a three-time finals MVP, right? That was one of his accolades. No one questioned that first one? Why no one questioned that first one?
Starting point is 01:51:25 The rookie year? His rookie year finals MVP. Right? What did he average? The center year. When Kareem got hurt for that game. What did he average that year? He averaged about 21, 21, almost a triple
Starting point is 01:51:49 double. So 22, 11, and 9 assists, 6 games. Yeah, almost a triple double. Now look at, right, now look at Kareem's. 1980 final? It's not even close, you'd be like, wait, hold on. You know what it was. Do I got to say it? What was it? Because his name was Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, not Luau Cinder. But he averaged 33 points, 14 rebounds, 5 blocks in 5 games. Didn't play that 6th game because of the ankle injury. Oh, nah. If his name was Luau Cinder, that would have been his finals MVP.
Starting point is 01:52:20 I see somebody saying I'm throwing spaghetti in the wall, but read the stats again. 33 points, 14 rebounds five blocks and five games Again That's a you're sitting there like wait. Hold on if his name was Luau sender and not Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Oh, that's what happened back then. I'm just letting you know. Oh, I'm just being real. Okay, okay Like it we might have had a different impact on what was going down. Oh, they were, oh, they didn't. They're not really. Oh, that was, okay, that was the same thing that happened, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:52:51 Yeah, I'm just, you know, don't quote me on it. I know the chat is trying to pack me up. But still those numbers. Huh? But still those numbers are crazy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, when you look at the numbers, watch it. I'm looking at them like, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 01:53:00 But, okay, that probably makes sense back in that time. Makes it easier to market, right? Magic, yeah, like... Yeah. Yeah. Versus a nigga named Kareem. Damn. Should that be that sound better than Luau?
Starting point is 01:53:14 Luau. Your name is Luau. Luau. Let's talk a little bit about Steph. Continue to show why he's the best shooter in NBA history. Steph's the only player to hit 3,500 th show why he's the best shooter in NBA history. Steph's the only player to hit 3,500 threes. He's at 3,505 right now.
Starting point is 01:53:31 No other player has 3,000 in their career. So when we look at this modern game, you talk about the shift in point guard, what Halliburton's talking about as well. How much has Steph really influenced the modern game? Because it seems like everybody wants to try to shoot like Steph, but we've seen him working out in Baltimore. They're not putting in that work like he's doing.
Starting point is 01:53:48 A lot of y'all niggas jumpers are janky and broke, and you can't do what Steph does. Jeez. Nobody in particular. Steph said it best, and you really got to understand the concept of being great, being a great shooter, being a great dribbler.
Starting point is 01:54:05 That shit don't start today when you're 20, 19. His jumper that he has right now started from when he picked the basketball up. Right, those 200, 300 shots started when he was... Y'all seen the movie? That shit started back when he was little, where he had to change his shot, but he was a Y'all seen the movie? That shit started back when he was little. Where he had to change his shot, but he was a shooter from then. Right?
Starting point is 01:54:31 That guy is today. So you're trying to sit there and trying to figure out how to be Steph Curry in your 1920s. Nah, that's not how that works. We're going to see Steph 2.0 in 15 years. 2.0, you better start taking those 300, 400 shots when he was 10. Yeah. You know, these records that Bron and Steph is breaking, whoever gonna break those records ain't even born yet.
Starting point is 01:54:57 Yeah, facts. Like, do we think in our lifetime, and I was gonna ask too, but we're gonna keep it Steph-centric, but what's the more unbreakable? The Steph 3s, because that's still going, or LeBron's career points? I think both. Nah, you can break Steph's. Steph's gonna finish with over 5,000 threes. You can break Steph's.
Starting point is 01:55:15 He ain't born yet, though. No, no, no. Luka? I mean, no, no, not Luka, but Trae Young. I mean, Trae Young, at the same time frame, Trae Young is probably in front at the same time frame Yeah, because Steph was hurt right? Yeah, because Steph was hurting his ankle. So like his is his touchable. Okay. Yeah bronze is it bronze? No bronzes. Yeah, whoever I'm not saying the kid whoever he ain't born yet Whoever gonna break that one and whoever he is he has to be born to break that record like you know, I mean like you
Starting point is 01:55:45 He just ain't born yet, though. He ain't here yet. No, those are two parents. It has to be a very calculated. Like, when we meet somebody, you know what I mean? When we meet somebody, it has to be some, it's two genetics that are just phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:56:01 And their goal in mind was to beat this record. And obviously I don't want to put too much on Wimby right now because the reality is even a guy like Luka who's probably the best bet and is still nowhere near... Luka has to play what? Luka has to play what? But in terms of right now, at this point in the league... He has to play 16 more years, averaging like 42 minutes a game, averaging 35 a game, playing 78 games a year. I think playing 78 games a year but it's like
Starting point is 01:56:27 the longevity of that's the most impressive part the most impressive one is mike mike being in top five not even playing that long like what's so funny if if mike would if somebody would have told mike that there was going to be a lebrron James coming in, then I think he would have took it more serious. And when people talk about LeBron James, what is he doing to play this long? Think about when you're a freak of nature, you're extended six, seven years, just your body type. So when Michael Jordan was 40 years old, he still had a 42-inch vertical, right? He still had a 42-inch vertical.
Starting point is 01:57:07 There's guys, the guys that are, you know, 60 years old, dunking the ball. Think about what they look like when they were 20, right? Those are the freak of nature that's jumping over people. If Jordan took his body serious like LeBron did, right? Back then, they were drinkers, right? They were drinker and partiers, right? You know, he's in Vegas coming, you know, having 55 in the garden, right? like LeBron did. Back then, they were drinkers. They were drinker and partiers. He's in Vegas coming,
Starting point is 01:57:28 having 55 in the garden. If he really paid attention to his body like LeBron James did, imagine what Jordan would have been looking like at that age. I think if Jordan wasn't gambling so much, he would have been... But that's what I'm saying. The gambling, the drinking, the partying,
Starting point is 01:57:41 that ain't LeBron James. He's in the gym at noon. Jordan's in Vegas at noon, and then he's coming flying at the game, 55. Back to Vegas. Because whoever he played against ain't averaging 30. So it's a light night tonight. He averaged 11.
Starting point is 01:57:57 You know what I mean? He averaged 11. It kind of lets you know we did see what LeBron's doing. We seen it in Jordan when he was averaging 20 points, smoking cigars every day. He averaged 20 points, played 82 games. Averaging, yeah. But, I mean, even just looking at this generation of guys, though, and you talk about that, how difficult it is.
Starting point is 01:58:19 You're now showered with millions of dollars. I'm not trying to make this an MJ versus LeBron goat debate or anything like that. But guys like Steph and the work ethic, guys like KD, guys like LeBron, how fucking insane is that to just think that every day these dudes got to be locked in when they have so much money at their disposal, they can do whatever they want? It's the evolution of... It's the evolution, right? Michael Jordan compared to the past of those players, he looked at what they were doing
Starting point is 01:58:50 and he took it a step. Kobe took it a step above that. Now LeBron took it a step before that. I mean, everyone is taking what the generation before them did and they're adding to their longevity, right? That's all. Like Kareem, he played 20 their longevity, right? That's all like, you know Kareem he played 20 something years right for a reason Vince Carter right played 20 something years
Starting point is 01:59:16 Haslam played 20 years right, but they didn't have They didn't they didn't consciously think about this to start your career, right? So they did something in the middle of their career or gave them, you know, some more years. Steph, KD, LeBron, this is a conscious thing that they thought about, why they're lasting a little bit longer than everybody else. Yo, who you would think, yo, who you think outside of KD, LeBron, and Steph, who's the next player to get a farewell tour?
Starting point is 01:59:42 Farewell tour? Yep. Those three players. Because I think those three will, with the names, I think those three players to get a farewell tour? farewell tour Yeah, I know those three players because I think those three will with the names I think those three players will get a farewell tour, but you honestly get a farewell tour. I Mean especially if he keeps playing the way he's playing, okay We think I mean, yeah, like after those three are going like who was the next player? Did you think the league would be like stop for everybody? Oh, so stop. Oh stop I mean like, you know, I mean for a world's when you know, you're the whole years, you know That year is dedicated to you. So like who's getting that outside of those three?
Starting point is 02:00:14 When they're gone Or we won't see it for a minute That's a good question. I'm giving John one of the... If John's healthy, if John's healthy his whole career, then yeah, because his impact. He's just... Like LeBron was...
Starting point is 02:00:40 Like LeBron impact, right? Yeah. But Jordan, Jordan aura was impact, right? Yeah. But Jordan aura was different, right? Yeah. He has that aura. Okay. He has that, he has the it, right? So if he's averaging 30, he's averaging 25, he scores 60, he's doing a 55, the way way the media hits the way the kids will gravitate to it
Starting point is 02:01:07 It's just gonna hit different. Okay Right. So he is he is that type of that type of Player that could have that impact like when you When when they did the 75, did you see the video of the 75? That lets you know who the people think the goat is When they did the 75 in Ohio and LeBron came out right and then when when Jordan came out last yeah Yeah, I mean yeah, that's I said that was this that was this the staple the stamp of everything Yeah, it's just like there's just two different, you know, it's two different humans
Starting point is 02:01:42 You can you can see it like they said what you know You got the 74 and the cameras and then just the one There was more cameras on the one than it was And you know Like we can sit here go back and forth and do the numbers But when the two humans walk there was two different walks like and I told you that when I was walking with a t-mac Yeah Yeah, I'm brunt sitting out this bitch. And I told you that when I was walking with T-Mac, yeah, it is,
Starting point is 02:02:06 yeah, I'm bruncing out this bitch, I can tell you that. I'm motherfucking bruncing. I'm a LeBron guy and I don't think, I'm delusional, I'll just say like,
Starting point is 02:02:16 Jordan's shoes are still selling for more money than when they first came out 20, 30 years ago. People are losing their life still for a 50 plus year old nigga's tennis shoes. It's, it's.
Starting point is 02:02:28 They already have three pairs though. They can't hold. They can't hold, yeah. They can't hold. There's just, when you think about the NBA, when you think about the NBA and you think about just the names, right? It's like Magic Bird Jordan. It's just it's a thing.
Starting point is 02:02:49 No one I'm sorry, but no one cares about the NBA before it merged. Before the NBA merged, I'm sorry, I'm sorry and it looks like I'm attacking again but before 78
Starting point is 02:03:04 you have those guys, we still want I'm sorry, and it looks like I'm attacking again, but before 78 You know you have you have those guys you we still want to put them into the NBA But the NBA was one-sided at the time. There's only a few black when they merged and all all the world of athletes entered the NBA Magic and birds stood above the rest right and that's that's what made them the pinnacle of what we know as the NBA. And then Jordan just took it to a whole nother level. So those three guys are the founders of the NBA. Even though it started way before, it started in 47, right? We started in 47, but the NBA we know today started in 78.
Starting point is 02:03:46 And that's not, I mean, I don't think that's shade when you have the ABA doing numbers. The ABA's only issue was TV distribution. But same level of stars, smacking the NBA in head-to-head competitions, innovation. Three-point shot. You know, that's the league. That's what I'm saying. The ABA was today's NBA. The league's like, ooh, we're going to take something. We can't break all y'all off.
Starting point is 02:04:05 We'll bring a few of y'all with us. That's what I said. The ABA was BET Jams. That's what I said. Like the Julius Irvings and all them guys, they wasn't considered the NBA until it merged. So, like, you know, what we know today was 78. We also just got to acknowledge that Steph. The the niggas when the niggas got here Afro window in the niggas his sports. That's when it changed
Starting point is 02:04:37 When the nigger came into golf it became golf Tiger who? When Tiger who hit the leaf. I like he. I like he. So we also got knowledge, and you sent some love to Steph. Streak of 268 straight games with three-pointer ended last night Sunday against the Blazers. He had a pretty tough game too, but the Warriors got the win. First time he didn't make a three since November 8th, 2018.
Starting point is 02:05:02 Damn. Against the Bucks. That's a long time. That's a long time 2018 that's a long time Salute Fred That's my James Brown buddies. That's fire. Yeah, he was injured at some point during that as well, but Talk about you guys Gil your streak 53 games would have made three-pointer second longest 36 Brandon Jennings 26
Starting point is 02:05:28 second longest 15 Lexi 12 but on a condensed WNBA schedule that was a full two seasons that was a full two seasons I'm just saying you know how they be doing they do y'all janky. Y'all got six games.
Starting point is 02:05:48 Y'all got a six-game season. Our schedule released today, and they changed our Commissioner's Cup to kind of simulate the in-season tournament. So last year, it was distributed throughout the season, and this year, it's all in June. Vegas? Where are we going? Whoever's the top person.
Starting point is 02:06:07 Oh, they got to go to the crib? Yeah. Let's go back to Vegas. But it was ten games, now it's only five, and it's all in June. Okay. All the games and the championship, which I think is smarter. Smarter? Okay.
Starting point is 02:06:17 Yeah. Okay. Because now they can, like, promote, like, Commissioner Cup all month consistently instead of, like, a Commissioner Cup, and then three weeks later another one. So y'all was to test dummies? For IST? For, yeah. Seems like it.
Starting point is 02:06:32 Oh. But I'm glad that they saw what the NBA did and they're like, we should probably do that too. Get it all in at once. Or the NBA seen what y'all did and just tweaked it. Oh, no, the NBA definitely stole our idea. We started Commissioner's Cup like two, three years ago. So now we're just going to keep helping each other, I guess.
Starting point is 02:06:52 So shout out to the W for that. Love that. The dub. The dub. The dub. And we also got to just show some love, too, to Clay Thompson. Woo! Moved to the top ten of career threes made.
Starting point is 02:07:05 Two away from passing Vince Carter for eighth all time. Vince Carter. The greatest light skating shooting duo the world has ever known. Vince Carter is in the top ten threes? 22 years. Some of the things are going to go in. I didn't know that. He shot the ball well.
Starting point is 02:07:19 No, no. Yeah. I mean, for a guy that was always like, people say dunker. It's like, yo, that's. Hey, Clay, he should be in that office right now. Hey, I mean for a guy that was always like people say dunker is like yeah, that's Clay Clay I say he should be in that office right now. Hey, I'm back. Can we uh, we negotiate Huh go anywhere negotiate I'm feeling hot Dave the blazer 28 steph on the s7. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm in there like eight.
Starting point is 02:07:46 You know what's so funny? No matter how rough it started, it could really backfire for Golden State. It could backfire. What could? Draymond Green is gone, right? If they decide to sit Steph, blah, you know, we're going to arrest you. And Klay got that team by himself for 20, 25 games. Good luck.
Starting point is 02:08:15 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, you got that shit by himself, brother. Because there was a stat, like, back in the early days when Steph was gone, he was averaging about 31, 32 a game. No, I think it's going to backfire on them the fact that they didn't take care of Klay first. If I'm a guy that can put the ball in the rim and you don't take care of me first, I'm going to have a problem with that. Sad to become a free agent. You know, if Klay was smart, leave the Warriors with words with nothing come to the Lakers where you'll be respected We got some bread for you. Hey, you know, they said Jordan Clarkson is up for trades Milwaukee
Starting point is 02:08:55 Jordan Clarkson has been made available per a Milwaukee a bucks a Jordan Clarkson's available Let it be you know, you know Damn, no, but know. Damn, Brent. No, but we got to be out and show our face in Milwaukee. We got to have love from the whole team. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:09:09 Okay, I'm just saying. So Jordan Clarkson come. But who's going to leave if Jordan Clarkson comes? Don't matter. Long is 34. Long is 34. And Dame and Bobby Portis
Starting point is 02:09:19 and Lopez is there. They good. Can Bobby Portis play the three? Yup. Yup, sure can. Hey, yo, Wednesday I'm wearing my Bobby Portis. Hey three? Yeah. Yeah, sure can. Yeah Wednesday, I'm wearing my Bobby Porter. Yeah, I should you trade him for
Starting point is 02:09:33 Middleton did then take that deal in a minute and bring him off the bench What's gonna be on that coming off the bench Clarkson? Yeah, Malik BZ complete. Oh, yeah We need we need some we need something walk through the tunnel to Jordan You you need some dressing in that month You need some players that when that when that and that's what Brunson is good at when the game plan ain't working Do something yeah, and you know people don't understand in a play or in the playoffs There's a we have a booklet on, you know, you have a booklet on what they can do, what they can't do, what play, what secondary play.
Starting point is 02:10:11 So for the most part, they know everything you're doing. So the guys who can go outside of the playbook is the Barreras, the Manus, right? That's what frees up the star when you can just break it Yeah, you know we're gonna push him this way and he's sitting there and he got 16 points in four minutes He's like oh shit. Then Lamar Odom's. Yeah Jason Taylor like when people talk about the Jason tears and like Oh LeBron did this like yeah Well, the game plan is to stop this man. Mm-hmm, right and when Jason Terry Boom goes out of the offense and he's averaging 18 that wasn't accounted for right? Yep
Starting point is 02:10:47 You know, that's where you know playoffs where you get paid. Yeah It's the payoff the payoffs now It's time not to be confused with the way offs where we need to get those bottom four teams playing for that number one pick Adam silver you love money They should let us commentate it too. Bring the Gills Arena crew. That would be hilarious. Let us call it a game. But now it's time for our last segment of the day.
Starting point is 02:11:09 Mostly fans. As always. I think basketball is about a pure point guard. Okay. It's not a thing. It's kind of fizzling out of the game. You know what? We should fine them for just making us look good.
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Starting point is 02:12:32 Who will win a championship first, Ja or Luka? In theory, Ja. OK. In Memphis? In Memphis? No, not in Ja. Okay. In Memphis? In Memphis? No, not in Memphis. Okay. Not in Memphis.
Starting point is 02:12:50 I knew what you said. They have to stay in the same city? Nothing about staying in the same city. That Luca's known for winning though. Luca has a- He's known for winning. Mark Cuban is still running the organization of the- He sold a majority stake, but he is still
Starting point is 02:13:06 Making trades and they have to stay in their cities Luca I Say jaw he American We need something after brought in them leave we gonna need something Facts and see the jaw or Jason Tatum after atBron and all. What about U.S. citizen Joel Embiid? But the problem is, the only problem with jaw is it is Memphis, right? And how many other stars want to go to Memphis? Think about all the Texas players that will come back home. That's all right.
Starting point is 02:13:35 All he got to do is win it. Okay, just like how Giannis won a championship in Milwaukee. They got Dame. All jaw got to do is win. Milwaukee, a burgeoning Midwest city, though. Bro, they got named. All John gotta do is win. But he can't win. Milwaukee, a burgeoning Midwest city, though. Bro, they owe Memphis. Oh, Luther King got shot there, bro.
Starting point is 02:13:50 They owe a championship there. Yeah, if you've been to the... And they turned the damn hotel into a gift shop, dog. I just... Yeah, all the ducks that used to... That duck hotel in Memphis, remember the ducks? Oh, the Peabody? Yeah, the Peabody.
Starting point is 02:14:00 I used to be mad. You coming home from practice, man. You coming from practice, and you gotta wait for the ducks. I'm like, man, kick the shit out of one of these ducks. Nah, we did have from practice, man. You come in practice, and you got to wait for the ducks. I'm like, man, kick the shit out of one of these ducks. Now, we did have to wait, though. Remember, the ducks were coming. We had to wait. Come on with these fucking ducks.
Starting point is 02:14:11 About 50 ducks. Man, we sitting there just, just some booze. People come all around the world, take a picture of them. I was in Memphis for the Iverson Classic. You seen the streets off the chain? I was wondering why all these human beings were lined up in front of this hotel for some fucking ducks.
Starting point is 02:14:24 Some ducks. Really? No, no, no, dead serious. It's a real thing. I was wondering why all these human beings were lined up in this hotel for some fucking ducks some ducks really No dead serious. It's a like this is a hotel No in the hotel You know you coming to the hotel and be like go like me I get they got their own little room or so Yeah, they got red carpet. They got a red carpet. You sit in the elevator you rail wait like Real then you have Beale Street like right over... Now Beale Street off the chain. It's very turnt up. I was extremely
Starting point is 02:14:49 like... I'm going to say job too. Okay. Let's move on to our next question. It's a video question from mostly our underdog user QUAJ21. Who was you guys NBA GOAT growing up? Not necessarily the best player in the league,
Starting point is 02:15:06 but a person that you admired the game. I know kids nowadays say Paul George is their NBA GOAT, so I want to know your guys' opinion on that. Also, what player 25 and under is hella talented but doesn't get the recognition they deserve? Bless. Bless you, too. Mine was Kobe.
Starting point is 02:15:25 Kobe? Yeah, growing up. Did you have any other favorite players? Like somebody who, like you said, maybe didn't get the love that they deserve? When I was growing up? Yeah. I think he got the love he deserved, but I really loved watching Tony Parker play too. So yeah, Kobe and Tony Parker were like my two faves.
Starting point is 02:15:49 How about yourself? I would say Rondo. Penny Hardaway. Always? Nobody else? Was Penny your first, like, all right, this is... Penny is the reason I actually fell in love with basketball. Okay.
Starting point is 02:15:59 I named my second daughter, her middle name is Penny. Oh, wow. I wore 25 in high school because of Penny. That's fire. Yeah. Me, Allen Iverson. And I just feel like that question is like, that question when he says inspired and not just the greatest,
Starting point is 02:16:18 I think that should go for also your Mount Rushmore. Your favorite players, your Mount Rushmore. It's not all about, well, if it is about winning, but I think your Mount Rushmore should be about the players that like inspired you and like that made you want
Starting point is 02:16:33 to go play basketball, not just because they won. So is AI the one who inspired you the most? Yeah, for sure. Like tattoos, like six foot, like, I mean, without, if it wasn't for AI,
Starting point is 02:16:43 I mean, shit, you know, the league was dry. Like, we didn't have that edge. And I feel like AI gave us that edge. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, AI would be on Mount Rushmore. Like, it became the hoop. Like, just a hooper. If you just name it a hooper, like, AI.
Starting point is 02:16:58 I think that's why people, like, kind of get mad at me when I take away the 70s and the 80s and stuff like that. It's because I know you didn't watch those games You didn't watch them play you just doing that because someone else said it. Yeah, you just oh who's your starting? Like who's your your your greatest five and then they have like will and Bill Russell right? It's like you bro. You're 28, right? I didn't even watch them, but my best five You know Jordan LeBron, Kobe, Magic, and Shaq.
Starting point is 02:17:28 I can't tell you, like, anything I didn't see. So I don't know. I can look at stats and, oh, he was great. Yeah. But I can't put my, I don't know it. Yeah, because it didn't do nothing for you. So I don't care about this. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:17:42 Like, my. You don't get mad at little kids who will be like, Paul George is the GOAT. He's like 11. Of course. I'm going to agree with him. That's who you like. You can't be like, no, you don't know nothing about MJ. They're 11.
Starting point is 02:17:55 He didn't know. They don't know. Like somebody who put their side of five and it was like they put Wilt, but it's like, I never seen him play. So why are you in there? Yeah. Yeah. That's my thing. I think people should stick to what they see and what inspired them.
Starting point is 02:18:08 I don't know. Like that's what I'm saying. We can look at stats all we want, but we don't. Will was saying, send a telegram. I can just go off of history and say if Michael Jordan was the greatest player that ever played off of his first championship and he was considered to go you done told me everything y'all don't y'all don't respect y'all don't respect anything from 90 motherfucking of 46 from 1946 to to 90 it whatever happened between that one championship took it away cool
Starting point is 02:18:52 Because like the way we feel about Nintendo is how kids nowadays feel about ps5 Nintendo. Yeah, but the suitable gaming system both the Nintendo 64 GoldenEye when I came out I'm saying what they have nowadays is smacking the shit out of anything that shit out of it I don't know that golden that golden. I don't know that golden., these kids now, you give them Nintendo 64, they'd be like, Who is this? They'll look at us wild. But GoldenEye was, you know how they had like them 10,000 games? And you start playing some of the older shit, you'd be like, oof. We were enjoying, this was high quality. But the hell is this? We played this? The hell is this?
Starting point is 02:19:19 Like, we used to watch SDTV, like that shit was clear in quality. Remember the first 2k on the dreamcast yeah I mean dreamcast back in the day Iverson blocks with arms and that's Sonic the player under 25 I love Sonic under 25 cast it will be probably jaw Luca Tatum is right there, right? Yeah Older Trey might be twin John Trey He might be 25 years 25 years old just turned 25 September 19
Starting point is 02:19:58 Yeah, Booker will still be He's 26 he probably got I mean but think about how long he's been in the league. My book is 27, yeah. How long he's been in the league, he's still only 27, which is wild. That makes me feel old. All right, our last question is from Underdog User by the name of Mandown. Who up? Yo, Zarina, what's good with y'all family?
Starting point is 02:20:21 Gentleman's cut. Mr. B, my guy, I got a chance to see you who back in 2007 at the Rucker. So with that being said, I want to know what's the best blacktop runs y'all have ever been a part of. And also, Lexi, I want to know, do the women get together in the offseason and have runs like the men do? Shout out to y'all. Keep doing y'all thing. Okay, my own question. Shout out to Gentleman's Cut.
Starting point is 02:20:44 Shout out to Gentleman's Cut. He drunk as a motherfucker. Yeah doing your thing That off the gentleman's cut the gentleman's cut He's been hitting the German has definitely said in your case a gentleman's cut and could some of those make their way back to the Gills arena set not for sure. Okay, because yeah, I got you. I guess you man. I got you We found a jealous. I'm jealous He did yeah, he ordered that. Okay. So some of the best, Blacktop. I mean, I know Gil, know Berry Farms, Westforth, Kingdome. I mean, of course, Rucker Park for sure.
Starting point is 02:21:19 So those. And then, I mean, Venice Beach, of course. I mean, how much have you hooped at Venice Beach? Because that's a different game. Like once or twice. That's a different game. Oh, you only play. Oh, yeah. Like to go to a lot. What? Yeah. Like once or twice. Because I was mostly in New York. New York had the better hoop. This is high school. Oh, this is high school. Like, you know, we that's we couldn't wait for the weekend.
Starting point is 02:21:40 Just go to Venice Beach. You're up there hoping every? Every, from, we get there like at 11, cause you know you gotta beat on the surfers, Hispanics, you gotta beat through them. And then by the time the real hoopers are like You have to say that, Gilbert Arinas. You gotta stack the wins up, baby, cause once like two, three o'clock come, boy, the real hoopers come, you want to be on the court. You want to be on the court, so when you take the L, you're like, all right, I'm good.
Starting point is 02:22:13 You don't want to be that one L, and you got to wait 35 games, because whoever's playing, he got three nexes. He got like three nexes. I got nexes and a nexe, and then, you know, you go through that shit. But we got the real thing. The King of Ducks, Sidney Dean. You know, a lot of great hoopers. But Barry Farms was, for me, it was like the hoopers there. Like I played against KD and Beasley.
Starting point is 02:22:38 I played against Beasley, you know, there. I had to guard him at that time while he was in high school. Michael Beasley he's talking about too. Yeah, Michael Beasley Michael Beasley. Are you had to Josh Shelby's you had like you had some real Hoopers Shut up miles Ross the legend. Yes, I'm real hoopers that didn't even make it to That was nice and some of those was on and one team. So yeah, you had some real hoop hoop Shout out D nice. I played against D nice. That's from from DC. Yeah, D-Nice.
Starting point is 02:23:05 Yeah, I went out there and played a game of 45. But yeah. Shout out to him though. Not a dead ass. You're in the lockout? Yeah, man. On the lockout. And it's on YouTube.
Starting point is 02:23:15 And it's on YouTube. And it's on YouTube. Go look at it. Sort of guy. You don't have the video. Brought up in the Jeep in the projects by myself. The projects. You know we have the video of that legendary lockout game as well when you see you walking all over the people. project, you know, we have the video of that that legendary a lockout game as well and use
Starting point is 02:23:26 See you walking all over the people. Oh, you know Did you have those right girls? Women's women's well when I grew up in Atlanta, we have like a lot of talented girls in the Atlanta area So we would get together sometimes and play but as pros and the offseason everyone's overseas So we don't really have time and everyone's spread out all over the place but a lot of like the better players are overseas but now I play in a league called athletes unlimited didn't you just sign a new deal with them yeah okay we see you so yeah that starts in
Starting point is 02:23:59 February it's five weeks of games and it's different because it's just one giant roster of 40 players, and there's a leaderboard, and you get points for everything that goes on in the game. And the top four players are captains, and every week there's a draft. Oh, so you're on a new team. Change teams every week. Okay. And there's no coaches. Now you're speaking my language.
Starting point is 02:24:22 Oh, good. Oh, you can't sub me? Yeah. So y'all gotta pull up. Sub? Wait, we need to... How do y'all do the subs then? How do y'all do the subs?
Starting point is 02:24:31 I mean, we have... Coaches are called facilitators, but as the captain, you give as much power as you want. So sometimes facilitators will be like, I'll do the subbing. But like the first season, I was a captain like four out of the five weeks and Like by week four I was like, I'm not doing the subs. That's what I'm saying like that's that's what I did I mean for the most part, I mean, there's only ten people on each team. So, you know, you can't please everybody but and I'm going with a Yeah, I'm gonna get past. Oh, yeah. No, I'm gonna play you passing me the ball We have 44 Tell Just cut the roster down.
Starting point is 02:25:06 Tell them to hit the portal. The portal. But yeah, the draft, like, it's fun. We have a lot of fun. So that's like the closest thing we have to off-season pickup, basically. But we get paid for it. Is that February? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:19 Let's go. We might come in and commentate. Sydney plays. TP plays. Okay. Shout out Sydney TP. Shout out Sydney TP. Shout out Sydney TP. I heard making my sister with Anita Baker.
Starting point is 02:25:30 Sid just making all types of shit happen. She walked out first. I'm like, who's this person running up on stage? And we're security. And they're like, oh, okay. It's just Sid. It's Sid. We appreciate y'all for the great questions.
Starting point is 02:25:41 Also, as a reminder, or this is the first time breaking this, make sure you pull up to Melly Monaco's YouTube channel immediately after this show. Give us the one-on-one rematch. One-on-one rematch. They said I cheated the first time. Gil versus Melly Monaco. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:25:56 Did you win? You know Kenyon was training her the whole time? He did. He told us. And Kenyon said not to tell you. Yeah. Oh, he did? Yeah. Kenyon was training her. And it us. And Kane said not to tell you. Yeah. He said us in common. Oh, he did?
Starting point is 02:26:06 Yeah. He was training there. I was not going to. And it was the day Rasheed Wallace was here. So got you. Got you. Yeah. So make sure y'all pull up to Melly Monaco's YouTube
Starting point is 02:26:17 for that one-on-one rematch. Hopefully Gill has brought and kept honor with this Gill's Arena Show presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo woo. Woo hoo. But we will see y'all again tomorrow, Tuesday. We are back. Holla! so Outro Music

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