Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Says Steph Curry NEEDS MORE Help!!!

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

Gil's Arena Says Steph Curry & Zion Williamson NEED MORE HELP as Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew break down why their superstar caliber games aren't translating to wins for the Golden State Warriors and New Orleans Pelicans. They also clap back at more LeBron James naysayers and defend the King's decision to passing the ball at the end of games, before reacting to Lou Williams comments on the Clippers in the bubble and calling Jayson Tatum the NBA's best American hooper. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:04:46 Best Scoring Defender 0:08:58 Best Defensive Scorer  0:11:53 The Clippers Weren't Built For The Bubble 0:20:13 LeBron James Always Makes The Right Play 0:39:15 Is LeBron Clutch? 0:53:10 Pelicans Need To Buy In Around Zion 1:05:06 Difficulties of Coming Back  1:14:46 Steph Curry Needs More Help 1:16:50 Is Tatum The Best American Hooper? 1:47:44 In Season Tournament Talk 2:09:05 MostlyFans 2:17:22 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yeah. You didn't even know. How many years? 14, right? 20 years. 13? Yeah. 13-year anniversary.

My 20s. Somebody go ahead and take it. Yeah. Get to 20 years. Somebody can take it. We're cooking Steph to collabing with him. Love to see it. We got Rashad McCants back with us. Our resident Celtics fan with the

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You try to move in, man. You try to move in. You try to take somebody's minute. I don to move in. You try to move around and run the bottom of the clock. You try to take somebody's minute. I don't know. Might be me. We'll see. Here's what we got cooking in the arena today.

LeBron had a message for all his naysayers, but will they finally respect him for trusting his teammates and making the right basketball play? Zion Williamson is trying to buy into the Pelican system, but do the Pelicans need to buy into him? And Chef Curry's been playing at an MVP level this season,

but does he need more help? Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Download the app, use promo code GIL, they will match

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league? I just won this week too, bro, with the football. Somebody got, you know, high lord, three rebounds. Come on, man. Yep. Filing? Get you. 40 minutes. 1.5 fouls. You can't get none. You can't foul nobody. Game close you can't even do one of them nothing. Who you pick for the foul though? I pick everybody. You gotta put the defender, the defender player.

No, no, no I mean like I did have... Okay yeah you right. Yeah you right. What team you pick? I got people who don't play defense. Okay, you're right Daniels all the defense blue door all day gonna foul. Yeah, don't give me three. That's real Okay, the worst when you got the rebound and they fumble it or they don't get it's like come on Oh somebody steal the real promo I hate like looking at somebody's stat and they be like to two rebounds, two rebounds, two rebounds. And then they have them for like six.

Oh, Lord. He got nine. Nine, bro. What the fuck? What? I'm off, y'all. Y'all fucking up. I'm off, y'all.

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in the world on the way. So we normally do mostly fans at the end of the show, but we have a great question to kick off this show from underdog user. Look, it's me. Fifty nine. And let's make sure we give him his fifty dollars. So, Chad, I'll start with you. Who was the best defensive stopper first who can score? And I don't mean scorers who could play good defense. Who was the best defender first who knew how to score? Ron Artest. Coming out of St. John's, had that thing on a string, learned how to shoot it. He had that New York street ball mentality. Came in, like you said, defense first. Pacers, you know, grinding grit, bully ball. Then he got traded. Once that happened happened he started loosening up on his

on his offensive game and he was with the Rockets started getting real buckets thinking with the sack played good there adjusted his game I can't remember anybody else that played D first and then still kind of 18-20 a game Norris how about yourself? I'm going to go a little bit old school. I say Scottie. Scottie came in as a defender. He wasn't getting no buckets. And then he became a top 50 grads player

because his offense came around. So I'm going to say Scottie. Then the year Jordan played baseball, Scottie was the MVP candidate for that one year. So I'm going to say Scottie in a year Jordan, you know your Jordan played baseball Scottie was an MVP candidate for that one year So I'm gonna say Scottie. So yeah, I'm gonna go with Scottie Damn, that was the one I was okay Yeah, I mean he broke it down yeah for sure The glove. The glove. The glove. The glove. The glove. The glove. The glove.

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The glove. The glove. The glove. The I was a defensive player in college. Which is crazy. It's not crazy, though. I had to get on the court. I had to get on the court. No, I played, listen. It's like when you give a nigga an opportunity to start scoring,

he never really was like, like, he was like that in high school. No, like, that's what I said. I was a great defensive player. He was amazing. Right? College, I had to guard everybody that was a scorer.

When I first got into the NBA, the only way to get on the court was defense, so I had to pick up full court and allorer. When I first got into the NBA, the only way to get on the court is defense. So I had to pick a full court and all that. But I realized, you know, offense paid a lot more. First team all defense, you'd be like, seven years, 12 million. Prison sentence. Prison sentence. You scored 12 points, 12 million.

I'm going to go with the points. Thank you. Thank you very much. So who was a great offensive player who was an underrated defender? Underrated defender? They never got the love they deserve for what they did on the defensive side. Yeah, I'm stopping y'all today. Y'all know what time it is. Shit. A-I? Hmm Yeah, I'm stopping y'all today y'all know what time it is Mmm, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't get a lot of respect for his defense. He was leading the league of steals, right? Yeah, he was what is defense?

Like does I'm saying I'm talking about on ball or like that is I said, what is defense somebody who but like you you Block shots. No, right now. You get steals as defense or you locking somebody up neither one of them just being a solid a solid Do you it's not an easy night against me when I'm when I'm up on you It's a hard night for you to really score get your shit off get comfortable Like I'm just there. Like a Tony Allen. But he got, but he's... Not an offensive guy. No, no, but yeah, and he's... I'm just saying as far as defense.

But I said he's known for defense. Thanks. You said not known, right? Yeah. They don't get no credit? Great offensive player. So who was the offensive guy that didn't get enough appreciation for what they did on the defensive side of the ball?

Damn man, that's tough. I'm not going front, bro. Steph. Ooh. Steph. I think Steph has gotten better defensively. Does the collab have anything to do with Westbrook? No.

I'm going to go with Westbrook. I'm going to go with Russ. I'm going to go with Russ. I think Russ is so active on both. He's a dog. I mean, he's so active. He don't get credit for blocking shots, being in the right place. I don't think people give Steph his credit for defensively.

I'll definitely say Steph. Steph used to be food early in the league. He's gotten better. But they still run plays to get him to switch, though. Yeah, it's targets. Yeah, so he has gotten better, though. But when you're still running plays to get the switch on you, that's... But he's gotten better. I mean, he's still trying. You know what I'm saying? He's still putting the though. Yeah, it's targets. Yeah, so he has gotten better though, but when you still running plays to get the switch on you. He's gotten better though. I mean he's still trying, like you know what I'm saying, still putting the effort compared

to a lot of other ones. That's true. Very true. When they're running plays to get the switch on you, how insulting is that for you as a defensive player? When you're looking for the matchup, it's insulting because it's like I'm not scared of that. I'm not scared of whoever y'all bring. It's really insulting when they break the offense to look for you. When they got an offensive segment and then the offensive player be like, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, no, no, no, you. Oh, him. And then it's like, what the fuck you mean?

That's when they get like, wait. 30,000 people saw him go like this. Yeah, me. And they looking at him and we all looking together like, everybody like, who, me? Me? Yes, you. And we all looking together. Like, everybody like, who, me? Me? Yeah, you. And we look at the coach. I look right at the bench like, oh, for real?

That's what we are? Everybody, you look, you like, yeah. You break the whole set off. Uh-uh, go corner, go corner. We want him, him, him. It's hard. It's hard because most, if you are decent at defense, you get recognized for it. That's a fact.

Yeah, but a lot of guys aren't even deep. Like, the Mar DeRozan, is he good at defense? No. We don't know. That's what I said. It's either you're horrible or you're great.

No one knows anything. Now, you can be solid, though. Does the effort wash out the fact that you can or can't play deep? Is he playing hard? You know, a hustle dude that's going up and down, hacking and then foulingling but he getting shook everything and just he got the effort

It just seemed not good at this thing. That sounds like Pat Biff You just out there running around and you You get cooked. It was like You're not really he's all one today. Not really doing nothing. You're not really doing anything. You know what I'm saying? Not really doing anything. Brother, I'm just saying. Mike, you running around is effort. Look, we're going to commend you. Throw him in there.

Let him run around. Here, run around. Y'all going to have to square up. What you mean? I'm analyzing the game. Presented by Underdog. Like Caruso, right? Well, he's not an offensive. So the chat did mention Jimmy Butler. I was going to throw that out there. He gets credit. We go present by the dogs like like like Caruso. Oh

Well, he's not offers that Jim so the chat did mention Jimmy, but I was gonna throw that out there He gets credit. He gives even it for sure. He's actually a lot more Anthony Edwards, you know, he is a good Jimmy's a lockup defender. Yeah But before that he was the lockup. He was a defender first. He would have been a part of our first question Yeah, that's why I'm yeah, so Jimmy Piper for the man, we interviewed Nate Robinson. He echoed the same sentiments whenever in Chicago Yeah, Jimmy played 41 minutes all deep in every game out the game. Mmm Mmm, I like Ant-Man though. Yeah, and he was a good one cuz he was an offensive player who became a knockdown defender Yeah, right. It was yeah, he was he had straps to the heat as I said 69 what you mean matrix 2? Yep. Was he was he had straps to the heat as I said, it's nine days what you mean matrix, too

Yep, was he was office though. He was off. No. Yeah, he was he average 20 before at one point at one time in his career I was like off since it's so it's so it's so hard breaks. I mean still you're right Anthony Edwards emerging in that role. That's why those MJ comps Hey, you're a big guy like that. Yeah, you watch it and I'm saying look do you see it comes now? MJ man, I need to stop that MJ shit Because it just messes up your career you right? Well, you know damn like You know, he watched the film on it though what I'm saying is he you win six championships right now They go pretend that they didn't just compare to me. Oh, yeah, you could be like the next Kobe

He watches them and that's how he's training his movements because he moving like he got all the but as I'm saying It seemed like they throw a name out there. No, just so you can fail. Yeah. That's a fact. Yeah. Right? It's like, yeah, you know what I mean? Like, you can be the next black president and then you're like, so I got to follow Obama, huh? I've already lost. I've already fucking lost.

Like, my resume is already behind. Crazy. Stop. Leave me alone. But do you feel like it's a compliment though? No.

Not at all? It's not a compliment if you know it's a failure. Yes. It's not a compliment if you know it's a failure. Yes. That's not a compliment. It's a backhanded slap. Yep. Saying that you look like MJ?

No, you the next. You say you the next, that's tough. I didn't say you can tell he's the next. You the next is magic. Like Chris Brown is supposed to be the next Michael Jackson. Throwing that to seal in at him, it's a limitation immediately. But it's a compliment. It's a back immediately, but it's a cut like you said It's a compliment back for this but it's like how can you ever get this is Michael Jackson's five years old?

He was doing that before and tell me that at five Don't tell me when I'm in my 20 something and then like yeah You can be the next Michael and then he got a catalog that I can't even touch. And you're going to use this catalog to beat me in anything. Anything. And you're being compared to that. It's like, man. MJ, you just broke Michael Jackson.

Yeah, but he was singing since he was seven. He was seven. He was seven. It's always going to be a book. Yeah, we're going to have to count these part of the seven. Like, come on. He had number one hits when he was in a group. Yeah, you can't do that. You better get in a group Edwards thinking about that comparison to Michael you look at all the accomplishments Michael's had in the first five years of his career

Nowhere near it, but like you said the facility but the wall how he moved. I never say he's like this like he moved like Michael 40 year old Michael before you do y'all see the moves Michael was doing he was a teen Here I sit on the swivel Go watch the Michael Jackson videos just coming on stage all the people faintin passing out I mean some of the wildest shit. It's Michael. It's Michael Jackson It's Michael Jackson the 80s is protected, bro. Yeah. Yeah, it was bored back then though. They had to enter Social media so you saw him for the first time it was like seeing a rock star Well Ant-Man got a long way to go to comparison to that you know I'm saying but he on his way style

Style dog since Tyler because he hit the fadeaway. He don't play like other two guards in the league He playing to two-way he ain't ducking no smoke. He clutch. He got the mid range He got the cup finishes and he got the three level scoring got ISO mid post. Mm-hmm. He got pivots head fake He got it all move it. I'll take your shit. That got the three-level scoring. He got iso mid-post. He got pivots, head fake. He got it all. He don't take no shit. He move without the ball well. MJ type of stuff. But he don't take no shit, too. I mean, that recent clip with Dre Monder. Yeah, he want all smoke.

Goddamn, nigga. You're doing too much, Dre. Fuck is you on before I put you in this backpack? Let's keep this thing moving. We got to go back down memory lane. The Clippers could have been bubble champs PR campaign has been strong the past few months.

Several players on that squad have talked about why they shouldn't want to chip that season. Lou Williams is the latest one to join the discourse offering this take on Trey Young's podcast. It was a struggle to get us to the bubble to begin with. We didn't even want to go. So I think just mentally we came into it

without just the right mindset to finish the job. We didn't even want to be there, and I think once we got there and we was in it, I think I was in the bubble 97 days was how long that was there, and I think about day 67, I was like, let's get the fuck out of here. So I think mentally we wasn't in it for the long game. We didn't really see the pot of gold at the end of it.

We were starting to hear the rumblings like, nobody's going to respect this chip and all of that. And so I think we kind of just took our foot off the gas. Nobody's going to respect this chip, so you know what, fuck it. Told you. But being locked up in Disney chip, so you know what? Fuck it. Told y'all. But being locked up in Disney prison, though, let's be real. Man. There's worse experiences,

but... I'm about to say... He backsliding, man. I caught that shit. I caught that shit. He backsliding. What? He's been standing on this bubble chip for so long. Disney prison? Oh, you already know what I'm doing. I know what you're doing. I hear you. I'm like, listen to this niggager right here backslide backslide like a motherfucker. I called it when they when it it was When they first talked about going back right because Clippers was hot

When when the lockout hit and then I think the first one was Pat Bev said he didn't want to go right And then I guess when LeBron had a meeting for everybody to go, then he said yes. So I said, okay, that's one person who don't want to go, right? And then Paul George said something that... It's about family or something. A family, something. So I said, so mentally he's not there, right?

And then Lou Will at the strip club and all that stuff, so I left for a death in the family, but was also spotted That's why I said they they this team right here The players they have of the makeup they have is not made for lockdown Right you when you're talking about dudes who need other things that keep them Active right that Clippers team, you know, you got dudes that want to be at the strip club, that party probably after they party. They mentally not capable of being stationed. I remember someone was like, hey, Gil, how would your team be in the bubble? I'm like, well, half the team will be cool, like the veterans.

Other than that, no. But somebody like Dane, Booker, those guys are built for shit like this. Half the team will be cool, like the veterans. Other than that, no. But somebody like Dane, Booker, those guys are built for shit like this. So I said, the Clippers not built for this. LeBron is, and them, so they gonna take this shit seriously. Clippers not gonna make it to the championship. I said, they have it, they don't wanna be there.

They're saying all the signs that say, he's weak, he's weak, he's weak, he's weak. So hearing it now is like, eh, we knew that. And not to say he's weak, but we weak. He's weak. He's weak. So hearing it now is like We knew that and not to say it's weak, but we interviewed my tres herald recently He lost his grandma who had raised him. So he was already not in the appropriate headspace to be over there But so I would you think about this Clippers bubble could have been bubble chip champ campaign, you know how I feel about it I've been saying that bubble bullshit was Wait bubble chip is bullshit He just confirmed it. No, I'm gonna burn because he didn't win it. No, he confirmed it cuz they think they clocked out early They know everybody talked because they like this and bullshit

Play don't get out there and play but you forcing me to do that Just like you trying to force me to take this vaccine, right? So look, if I got a choice, give me a choice. If I don't got a choice, don't leave the outcome based on whether or not I can play at this environment or not. They didn't have a vaccine here.

They'd have to take the vaccine for the bubble. Well, I'm not referencing. No, he said he was just asking an example. Yeah, I'm just saying like... Just like everybody was kind of forced to take a vaccine. Several guys opted out and didn't go. They could have. But how would that have looked? The same way they look if they get there and quit.

That's a fact. That's what I'm saying. But no one knows that until just now. Like, we just heard this part about what Lou Will's talking about. But when you was watching, you wasn't saying nobody was quitting. Yeah. Everybody was in there like bubble Oh, we're gonna win

Like it's real all the Hoopers like for real for real like it's a pandemic Motherfuckers is dying outside y'all in here playing basketball. Mm-hmm, man Y'all sit y'all ass down somewhere. So so you penalize the dudes who actually took a series So every other team that took a series, so we got the one Clipper team that had all the party dudes on it who didn't win, who was favorite, but they didn't win. It becomes bullshit because they didn't win, but every other team that was there. People's moms and family members are dying.

Like Carl Anthony Towns. People like to take the game more seriously than people dying is crazy Okay, but what about the rest of the players that was actually playing? We got family members that was that was let's stop the league until this shit is over. Okay, cool But they didn't exactly why should we take your excuse when everybody else is going through the same shit? Family members are dying We have other people in here doing the same thing yeah we're taking it seriously i have something more serious to take than just this game my my okay but

we don't want to just die we don't want to my auntie just died we don't want to hear your mouth about it though don't come here and tell us oh we mentally checked out because i got a death in the family we have a death in the family too i got a different explanation because like the bubble wasn't that bad. When you compare, like, I played overseas during the pandemic. Okay. They had Walt Disney. They were getting haircuts.

They were walking around. It's not like prison for real. We was on real lockdown. Yeah, yeah. You can't. Only way to leave the house was to go to practice and back, and you had to have a certificate to make sure. Where were you playing at that point? I was in France at the time, playing Tony Parker's team, Asville. Okay. And it was a real lockdown. It wasn't walking around,

still get your hair cut, go play golf and all that. So these NBA guys was kind of like spoiled because the other places in the world that was still playing had real lockdown. We 8,000 miles away from our family. I couldn't fly home to get to my family if they were sick, if I wanted to. So I don't think it was that bad. I think that they away from our family. I couldn't fly home to get to my family if they were sick if I wanted to. So I don't think it was that bad. I think that they were just being spoiled. I can't drive my sports car today. I can't walk to the top of my mansion today.

Like, man, it's not that bad, bro. It was more because of... Standard hotel room, though? It was more because of, think about what we do when we go on the road. Yes. That was the real problem with some of them. I can't go get the work.

I mean, I thought they brought the work to the bubble. Can't bring the work to the bubble. They did. They did. Eventually, when they opened it up, they opened it up. There was another hotel that was right on the campus, so they were just flying the work in there and then going to see the work.

Don't let these motherfuckers tell y'all. They had work hotel where them motherfuckers sneak in. The work hotel? Like, look, how about this? This part of the room is quarantined. We, like, go through this hallway and, yeah, the work is over there. Like, they was doing what they were doing, dawg. I got all the stories.

Yeah, but. From the work. The work. I was fucking with the work that was. I got all the stories. Yeah, but from the work the work I was fucking with them You know saying the work used to tell me yeah, I was just Got into the service We can't just say that because one team who was favorite failed like it's your fault You went there and not took it serious. That's nobody else's fault

We started this someone has to win facts period Someone when we stepped on here we decided going to bubble there's gonna be a winner Yeah, so if you decide a lot. Oh, nobody's gonna respect it. So we ain't gonna try to win it Well, that's your point. Yeah, that's kind of like a competitive mindset, though. I mean, if we're going to play anyway, then let's go do it. That's what I'm saying. It took away something that they probably needed to perform, and that's just.

So let me ask you this. Are there asterisks beside any other championships? Nope. Do you have asterisks beside any other championships? No Do you have an actions behind behind your first one? Nope No notice first one the first one See something like the the the San Antonio Spurs no one 99. Nope Dallas Mavericks. None of them was Nobody says nothing So I just I'm definitely gonna be the only one saying is a big ass fat asterisk around

You go win in the bubble and don't get cooked like you don't I'm just saying don't Excuse me the bubble like don't yeah don't go are we won bubble, the hardest tip ever, and then you can't get back to the shit? It is the hardest championship ever. You can't get back to it? No, I ain't rolling with that. I ain't rolling. You don't think? No, I ain't rolling with that.

No home court advantage. Think about who the Lakers is, right? You have the Lakers and LeBron. When they roll to cities, they have a home court. They have an advantage over other teams, right? Right? Fan base wise. Well, the bubble was designed for no one to have home court advantage.

Both teams get cheered. They put in rules where you couldn't boo. So the sound mic, there's no booing. The sound mic, let's say like the Clippers fan base, when they go to ref refs you suck The rest put in a rule where you couldn't say that so there was rules that was put in For safe space. So now when you hear it, everybody's getting cheered so you take away an game, Clippers home game playing the Lakers.

He's at the free throw line getting booed. You don't think that mentally does something to him? He's at his home game with the white uniform getting booed by Laker fans because they overtook the arena. So that's seven home games for the Lakers. getting booed by Laker fans because they overtook the arena. Man, we can't believe it. So that's seven home games for the Lakers. I just think the bubble was favored for the Lakers. No, it was favored for everybody else because it made it even.

I mean, the Lakers, RIP, we had just lost Cole. You know, it was a lot going on. I just think it was favored for them to win. Like, look how it was, like, you know. Here you go. Here you go. I'm not going to say it was difficult, but I'm here you go. Here you go. Here you go I'm not gonna say it's the most well

So if you're okay, so if you're the Clippers, would you rather play the Lakers in a seven game series at Staples or the bubble? I Don't think it matter man We're talking about 14 other players on the team. Some of them need praising. That's crazy, though. Yeah, what? We're talking about praising. That's on you.

See, but we played in all different type of elements. So we don't give a fuck. We're talking about the Cooper's. You played overseas. I played overseas. What is the topic right here? The topic is about dudes who didn't want to be there mentally. No, that's not the topic, Gil.

The topic is Rudy Gobert came in fucking around with Dr. Mitchell, right? And then gave that nigga COVID, right? And it's like, what the fuck is we doing? So if I'm in the bubble, nigga, get away from me. Nigga, move the fucking around. Nigga, don't touch me. I don't want to foul nobody. I'm on that... They was on with magic.

Nigga, hey, hey, hey. Don't scream me. Don't call no scream for me, man. I do not want no smoke. Move around. So you would have been mentally? Move around. So you would have been mentally gone in the bubble? Because it's the pandemic.

It's a fucking deadly virus going on. That was a weak statement, though. No, but what I'm saying is, that's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. Think about the team, the players that was on the team, right? Mm-hmm. Right? Their mindsets and how they think.

Yeah. Do you think it was easier for them to win in the bubble with a clear mind where they get cheered playing against the Lakers or playing in Staples Center where they can possibly get booed? I think it's easier to win it in the bubble. Okay. That's what I'm saying. Clippers' best chance to beat the Lakers was in the bubble. Yes.

No, for sure. They can't beat. That was the best. If you're a championship team, if you got a championship mentality once this time the hoop it don't matter It is elements and all that don't matter once we go and play for this. Yeah, it's going That's what if you had it, but obviously we know they didn't that's why I said that was the easiest for them to win because it's Both y'all get cheered like you guys are favorites versus you play a staple seven

So that was easier to win the the bubble, not for this one. For the Clippers. But he's saying for the crowd participation. Yeah, because for Lakers. That doesn't play a 90% role in winning or losing. Especially between Lakers and Clippers. Western Conference Finals. Western Conference Finals, Lakers and Clippers

in the bubble. Clippers get cheered like they home versus at Staples. You getting booed, motherfucker. That matters that much must give home to who they don't you ain't mentally Yeah, yeah, I don't want to say talk about they mental makeup, but come on. That's the you seen dudes choke under pressure because of the boot But the real when you hear that the real hoopers when you hear that you raise Because this champion you got a few players on your team that do that But we get this is the whole team. There's a whole team. How many teams do that? So they best players Was mentally not strong enough to miss it was not there like you talk about Pat Bev met

All George right Lou will Your whole core. Your whole core. I'm going to say they wasn't ready to win a championship, period, no matter where they at. No, before the bubble, they was locked in. Go in a bubble and say, yo, all right, come here, just play basketball. No outside influence. And they're like, hold on. People dying outside.

What are we talking about? But we got a hoop in here. Yeah. But that fucked up they shit. That fucked up they shit. Stay home with your wife. Stay home with your wife.

You gonna hoop or stay home with your wife? Y'all don't see the dilemma? Y'all don't see the dilemma in the mental makeup? Like if you got a choice like that to make bro and you make the choice to go hoop, it's going to be weighing on your fucking head, bro. I'm going to tell y'all right here, hey,

this is our whole family that you're leaving. Everybody who was married wanted to bubble. Everybody who was single was like, oh, man. I need to out of this bubble because they had to work. Everybody who's with their wife at home is like, I got to go. I got to go. I need to go to work. We need 200, 300.

I got you. Stay here, baby got to go. I got to go. I need to go to work. We need 200, 300. I got you. Stay here, baby. Stay here. FaceTime me. I miss you. I didn't know about the work hotel. I miss you. Definitely knew about the work hotel.

It was like a holiday inn. What level of caliber do they put the work in? The work did. The work did. That's what I'm saying. It's crazy. It's a campus. It's a it's a it's a it's a campus. Yeah I don't know the players campus use kids a huge campus. There's other hotels on there, but they had the gun line

I thought they knew here's the gun line. Don't cross the gun line. You know Me was getting over deliver over easy shit The whole thing you know what made COVID just sound silly? They acted like it wasn't airborne. So like. Like going to Walt Disney and keep it out. Hey, this is contained. And everything is quarantined.

Like there's an invisible shield that doesn't allow shit in here. If this is contained, but the wind can blow in here, motherfucker, it's not contained, dummy. Put your mask on on the bench and then breathe all over your chest. Everybody's putting their mask. Everybody touch this nasty-ass ball and sweat all over it. Pass it around.

That's crazy. Bro, do you not see what I'm saying? If I'm a German-phobe type nigga, I'm like, yo. That's what I said. It was... What the fuck is we doing? You passing this shit to me?

That's what I said. It was for optics. What the fuck is we doing? You passing this shit to me? That's what I said, it was for optics. It was for optics for the rest of the world because I'm sitting here trying to have a conversation with a dude who has a mask on. He said, you don't got a mask on. And I said, hey, you going to get in your car after this? He said, yeah. I was like, so when you get in your car,

you going to take your mask off with your hand? He's like, yeah. I said, so if COVID is all around here, and you have it on your mask and your face and all here in your clothes, and you take your shit off and get in your car, wouldn't there be COVID in there? Wouldn't there be COVID in there?

Right? You done touched the hands. You done eat some chips get the fuck out my face I'm not stupid shit man god damn I go in the restaurant I gotta have a mask on to get in the restaurant sit down and take my mask off to eat like this am I is this just this little spot my fucking over three yeah if you go to the bathroom, you got to get up and walk. We all learned some things, okay? The one thing you shouldn't

have been doing during COVID is eating in the open air. How about that? Make it make sense. What about this, though? The airplane. You're on the goddamn airplane. And they talking about, put your mask on. But that circulated air that's going around the whole airplane. We locked in this germ box. It's a whole big-ass germ box. You talking about put your mask on. But that circulated air that's going around the whole airplane.

We locked in this germ box. It's a whole big-ass germ box. You talking about, hey, nobody's going to get it if you just put the shit over your face. They gave you the wipes. Like the shit don't get in your ears and your eyelids. It only go into your mouth and your nose. It just didn't make sense. Like, we're saying this is airborne.

So treat COVID like it's rain. Right? Okay, I have a mask on. When I walk outside, rain. It's on me. When I walk back inside, I take my mask off. I'm still wet with COVID. Right.

It's a fact. Period. Unless I'm going to just go get butt naked, take it all off, then walk in the house, spray down, and do this. None of y'all was doing that. Nobody. Y'all over here with the mask on taking it off Hey, yeah, yeah, put it back on this your hand take it off put it back on put your phone on this

It is like yeah, come on you hear all this now that imagine all that in the bubble They shouldn't have been there imagine on it in the boat Get your ass whooping you want to be there mentally All the shit we had to go through, man. The bottom line is the Lakers were the best team for the pandemic. They were the best team in the bubble. They won the chip. Well, you want to put an asterisk on that? COVID going out around dying people and killing people in the bubble.

I don't put an asterisk back, but I don't think it's the most difficult either. I just think it's the championship. Well, let's keep this thing moving. Speaking of the Lakers, your former teammate LeBron James, he got some criticism last week after the Lakers, your former teammate LeBron James, he got some criticism last week after the Lakers lost to the Heat for making the right basketball play and passing to Cam Reddish for the potential game-winning three. I'm a long-time LeBron stan.

You know, Cam Reddish shooting like 13, 14, 15 percent from three at this point. Wasn't necessarily a fan of it. This past Friday, the Lakers found themselves in a similar situation in their in-season tournament game against the Suns. Now, let's show that video. Up with a little over a minute remaining, LeBron hit Cam Reddish in the corner. And the thing about this play, Cam had actually missed the three before on the same possession. But LeBron said, you know what?

Go ahead and get you one, young fella. He knocked down the three. Lakers went on to win the game. So after the game, Bron had a special message for all his haters. And we weren't going to play the video, but it had Mary J. Blige

prominently in the background. We're not trying to get packed up. He said, to all the naysayers in basketball, Savant said, don't know nothing about basketball and telling me I should have shot that shot in Miami

instead of passing to Cam Reddish. Well, I did the same thing tonight because I trust my teammates. LeBron finishes thought by saying, and I make the right play every single time. So, Shabba, so I wish you thoughts on LeBron calling out the naysayers and basketball savants who actually don't know shit about basketball. Oh, he right. You know, he made the right play. Both times. You know, he do what he do facilitate. And I've always said that about LeBron. He's not the last shot guy that you go to.

You let him facilitate because he's always going to make the best play. Whether it's when he take it to the hoop, he going to take the shot. If he got it, he going to find somebody. They going to have to collapse. He always make the right play. He right. I, he going to take the shot. If he got it, he going to find somebody. They going to have to collapse. He always make the right play. He right. I ain't going to take nothing from him about that. It's just when we see him with the opportunity to be compared to the people that we're comparing him to, they would have did it differently.

And they took it upon themselves to score those points. But LeBron is a different player. So he going to do what he do best he feel comfortable doing, passing that bitch to somebody else. Let them take the blame for it. Brandon, how are you? as a different player. So he going to do what he do best he feel comfortable doing. Passing that bitch to somebody else. Let them take the blame for it. Brandon, how are you? I mean, he's been doing this for a long time. I mean, I think he had a play like this in OKC

one time when he had an open shot and he gave it to someone and they made a big deal about it. Schroeder? Huh? It was Schroeder, I think. No, he was playing with Miami, I think. Oh,. Okay, I think okay see but he had made the pass and everybody Was complaining about him not taking a shot

Yeah He missed it Yeah, but I mean, I mean and you know, he always just makes the right play so I got no problem with it You know, he trusts his teammates and that's why he has four rings. Norris, you played with LeBron. You've been in similar situations like that. What it do for your confidence when a guy like LeBron trusts you in those moments to make a big play? You know as a role player it's nice when one of the best players in the world trusts you in a clutch moment.

It's kind of refreshing because we all put in work. Everybody dreams of making a big shot or a big play. So it's dope that a guy of his caliber is willing to trust you. But at the same time, there's also other situations where it's like, go ahead and take the shot. Sometimes it's better to take the shot maybe on one or two people, especially if that's in your skill set and you like that. So as a role player, I'm always ready, always ready, but other times it's cool if he go off and go ahead and shoot on two people, like go ahead. You know what I mean? Was there ever a like go every moment you're like no brian you got it yeah no all

yes for sure because sometimes you gotta think like he the most athletic you know you can play the whole game so he probably the most in shape the person guarding he probably can't jump and contest him anyway but in his mindset it's about where he's at on the court if he's at certain points on the court he will shoot it but if he's at certain points on the court where he's necessarily not as comfortable shooting, like that first play when he was going downhill right, he wasn't comfortable shooting or going downhill fadeaway. That ain't really kind of what he do going that way. So passing it was good for him.

And the same thing going middle left. He's going middle left with KD on his hip. He's probably not comfortable shooting a one-leg fade away with KD right there on him. So it was an easy, uncontested, because those are two different shots by Cam Reddish. The second one was much different than the first one. It's all about where he is on the court. But when a dude like that trusts you, it makes you feel good. It makes you feel a part of the game. And you always got to be ready, though, because if you pass to you when you ain't ready, good luck next time.

Sure. Might not be in the game next time. Get him out of here. It's weird where when Michael Jordan did it, no one cared, right? Because Steve Kerr hit the shot, they won, right? Oh, great play Michael Jordan, right? If he missed that wide open shot, would it have said anything?

We don't know. But he didn't do a lot, though. But the championship against the Suns, Michael Jordan didn't win that championship that day. That's Paxson. Michael Jordan didn't even get the ball. He passed the ball up. Somebody else made a mistake.

He didn't go back to go get that motherfucker they passed it boom boom Paxton three, right? So you you you won the championship? playing basketball playing basketball right, you know, I think there's brilliancy in understanding that Somebody can do it better than you at this moment in time. And you've got the ego enough. Yeah, and I don't think that's the credit that we're giving LeBron, right? He understands what his greatness is.

He understands what your greatness is. So if I'm coming down, boom, and I might take this difficult shot on you right there and I pass it to you, that lets you know he's aware of what you guys can do. And it says like their shot wide open is probably better than this shot that I'm about to try to take. Because there's been some times where I took a shot and I go back and film like, ooh, that was horrible. When I hit this shot and turned around, if you look, Karam was sitting there wide open. Wide open, right? But it don't look bad because I made this shit.

It don't look bad because it's you. It's like when you check in the game, you think about this. Colb checked in, you checked in, T-Mac checked in, there's four seconds left. We know who's shooting the ball. When LeBron checked in, LeBron is smart enough to know when I got the ball, everybody eyes on me. And we all know that as hoopers when we on the floor, wherever we playing, it's like, ain't nobody out here better than me. Then I know y'all all got to pay attention to me, anything I do. So I drive to the lane.

If y'all don't want to lose on the layup, kick. He's getting criticized his whole career for kick. For making the right play. And that's what he does inside his skill set, too. That's what he do. That's what he do. We're not talking about passes where the dude had to make another pass.

It's never been a pass, pass. So the person he's passing it to is wide open shooting. This yeah this is not like oh i got caught and i threw it and this man this is a bad pass he got to make the extra pass it's literally shot everyone is someone else shooting the shot coming directly from lebron and they're mad about that because that person didn't hit it well they just look different though people are used to you. People are used to seeing how Mike did it, how Kobe did it, how

other great players did it. Two. It was one. That's why he said it. It was one person who really created the idea of a guard, the best player on the court. He gave you every

single thing that a superstar possessed. Like, when you're saying, I want to build the perfect superstar, Michael Jordan was what was created. So when you're judging everybody else, you're judging it all off of what he did. And we can't do that. You're scoring 30? Okay, but are you hitting game winners? You're not hitting game winners?

Ah, you gave me Michael Jordan. Right, we got to stop doing that. We got to get Bronis Flowers, man. Yeah. Because he a one-on-one. He one of the only stupid starters like that, that can score. How many game winners? Because he got a lot of game winners.

How many game winners did Magic Johnson take? We don't know. Don't know. Yeah, really. They ain't paying attention. How about Bird? Like, we don't know. High school.

Oh, his rookie year, Skyhook. Right? That's a big moment. That's it. Right. So what's Bron's biggest shot moment? What I'm saying is that's it. We don't remember.

His biggest shot moment. Every one of them. Shot blocked. Boom. Like, he got one on defense. What's the shot that's going to solidify? Talking about the iconic shot? Yeah.

Yeah, like what's the shot? He probably don't have none. Magic got one. Yeah. Kobe got one. Cole got one. Which one is it? I Think is the over D weight and championship. No, not a regular game. He's talking about championship game, right? Any moment you just say iconic iconic game winner? What's this what was the bronze iconic shot what the one against Orlando in the Eastern Conference?

I mean he hit two game winners against us on layups, but nobody counts layups as a game winner. So it was the Wizards. It has to be a jump shot. He hit that game winner on the board, too. But think about it. The bank shot? Nah, the one in the corner where Black had to play. He was like, nah, give me the ball right here.

Yeah, man, Jimmy Butler was right there. I took notice, like, if I see the game winner layup, no one counts that as his clutch. That definitely counts. I think his most clutch play is the block. Yeah. It's the block against him. He made a game winner layup for us in the playoffs against the Pacers. That's pretty clutch. I think his most clutch play is the block. Yeah. It's the blocking. He made a game when it lay up for us in the playoffs against the Pacers.

That's pretty clutch. I remember that. I mean, game seven. That's pretty clutch. Clutch is fun. It's clutch. But to be, like you said, when they compare you to Mike, they want this. Like, what's that shot?

That's why LeBron's always wanted shooters on his team. Because he knows what his skill set is his top Attribute is facilitation. I facilitate get the fuck open and I need you to I need you to knock this guy If I know I have shooters, which means when I drive you shouldn't be there You know I I mean? Like, I, like, having shooters around you when I'm driving, I'm driving, yeah, like, I'd rather have a shooter than someone like, uh, like a Caruso or someone that won't shoot the ball.

Right. Like, when I used to pass it, like, Jared Jeffries wasn't a shooter, and his man's coming to double, and I'm giving it to him wide open, and then he pulls it out, give it back to me. Like, that, it was like, yo, shoot It was like yo shoot the bottom the fuck what you do with it Man, shoot it kick it slap do something sure because your man is coming off me The only way your man stopped coming off me is when you start hitting shots So I passed you take it go dunk next time he had come halfway go back who knows but as long as you're not shooting the ball It's four on five. It's gonna be four five on four

Yeah, I think I guarantee you next time after this next time cam cam John cam won't be he won't be open and Brian gonna probably yeah Next time he turn they gonna remember. Oh shit. He just hit the shot and I'm good cuz Brian is actually looking not leaving Yeah, yeah So what that does is force Brian to do what you were saying earlier to have make to make that play going right Uncomfortably or make that play going left against Katie. Somebody else where everybody stay home stay home Stay home make this nigga make a play. That's the problem because they scared when he do maybe he gonna make the play So I just appreciate that he ain't afraid he can live with itself

Yeah, making the play and he like stand on it like'm going to keep making this play. Y'all can just be mad. And we got to. That's what I said. It's like it's the highest percentage. Highest percentage. In the corner three. He got to say,

yeah, I missed 4,000 game winners and I made seven. What the fuck? So. You know how dumb you sound.

Yeah. I done took 4,000 big shots. I made seven, and I'm supposed to be the most... Get the fuck out of here. So for most of Bron's career, casuals have tried to push the narrative he isn't clutch. But let's go back to that Suns game and this season in general.

One of the biggest shots of that Suns game was Bron's fadeaway over Grayson Allen. We got the clip right here. Lakers up two at about 247, man in the game. People want to take that shot, though, at the end of the game. That's what they want. They want that as the game winner. They want that as the game winner.

But why, though? Why? Because he's in the spot. It's like Kobe in his spot, like Mike in his spot. That's why people want that shot, because that's the shot. I came to your spot. His last game, that's got to be the shot. That's got to be your fifth. But that's that's the shot. I can't figure his last game. That's gotta be that's got 21 it's like relationships man

Right, you can compare to someone else that you don't date no more. Yeah, right That's it you like We want you to be we want we want a dick we want to dictate how you make Right and that's like Like his when he broke the record They won't that shot look better than if he just had to lay up or he hit the free dollar would have been pissed off If he broke the record on free throw Would have been pissed off. There's only record on free throw. Think about it. We would have been pissed off. There's only a couple plays. Do it like you did it. Fast break.

Get freaky on the break. Between the legs. We want to feel good when you do something. But do you think LeBron knew that and he was, ain't no way I'm going to break this record on a free throw? Probably. I'm going to miss him. He was definitely going to take a jumper. He wasn't going down. He was definitely gonna take a

jumper. He should've done the skyhook. He should've done the skyhook, man. Then pointed at Kareem's ass. Should've done the skyhook. Get out of here. Here's an interesting note on LeBron in year 21. So that right shoulder fade over Grayson Island was the 11th clutch bucket of the season, which at that point led the league. Wait, come again? 11th. They be saying any shot below two minutes is considered a hush. The last five minutes.

Last five minutes, they call that hush buckets. The last five, when did this start? I don't know, when they start taking that stat. The last decade, so the last 10. So the last 10 years, they came up with a stat. 2014. 2014, they came up with a stat. 2014. 2014? They came up with a stat that said, under five minutes, every bucket someone hits is going to put it in.

Score within five. And within five. It's like the two-minute drill in football. Two-minute drill. So if he wins six. Fox was clutch player of the year because he led in scoring in that category. Okay. Five minutes or less.

Okay. I like that. In a game within five points. You look a little perturbed. There needs to be a segment on here. Yeah. They just be making up a game within five points. That needs to be a segment over here. Yeah. They just be making up what we're doing

for the last five minutes. Do you agree with that, Gil? How would you... You said the game is within five points. Within five points on a Sunday afternoon after you done had two beers. What the fuck are we doing here?

It's a quarter to five. I mean, like, that's what I'm saying. It's the dumbest shit ever. Stats for everything, man. What, five minutes? The last five minutes had to be within two. So, technically, if...

Within five. Within five points, if I go on, if I make ten straight buckets, why this guy made eight straight buckets is we both are put into this category that has nothing to do with being great. No, it's being clutch. I mean, the last five minutes. I mean, yeah, last five minutes. It's who you going to.

Who you going to for your buckets. Last five minutes. Luka Dantas is clutch. Going to him. Last five minutes. Whoever got the ball last five minutes is usually the score. And then if we have five and then I hit a three and then came back, hit a three and came back, hit a three, blew it out. That don't even count.

Nope. For the other guy that's clutch? For the clutch guy. Why wouldn't it? Why wouldn't it? No, because it's. Because it's within five. You have to be within five.

So the whole five minutes? Yes. So let's say the score is five, and then I come down, came down, hit a three. Boom. Knock him out. Came back down,

hit a three with 11. Came back down, hit three. Clutch moment's gone. The game over. It's just like the video game. You only get your moments when the moment is there. That's crazy.

You know what I'm saying? You got your moment. So I hit three big shots to blow this game up, but didn't get no clutch points. That's crazy. Nope. Nope. Oh saying? You got your moment. So I hit three big shots to blow this game up, but didn't get no clutch points. That's crazy. Nope. Nope.

Oh, no. That's a stupid rule there. Yeah, that's crazy. That's a stupid rule. That's crazy. Y'all love how you break down everything. When you close the game, all of us clutch. No, but look.

If it's five minutes left, and like you said, five, then you come down, hit a three. Eight. Eight. You don't get it. Basically, it's like if you're playing 2K and you got to hit a certain amount at a certain time And then you don't that that goal is gone now Like you don't get to hit that goal, but it's still clutch if I close you out the last okay But you haven't closed out you just

How about this well five right I come down hit a three boom no clutch point you come down hit a three boom No clutch point. I come down hit a three boom no clutch point you come down hit a three boom ain't no clutch point you come down hit a three boom no clutch point I come down hit a three boom no clutch point you come down hit a three and I'm with I still it was still up five I do it's the five so I thought I'd be sick you put it up five I put it back up eight you put it back We both just went on a 20 point run between both of us and we don't get shit, but who wins I'm a five we just won again by the game by five Yeah, and none of us got no close close for that's clutch and we got close you We don't get shit. But who wins? I'm a five. We just won the game by five. Won the game by five, right? Yeah.

And none of us got no clutch points. But that's clutch. Every time we got close, you had to go in. That's the clutch. That's the clutch. To keep them out. To keep them out. I would give that point. But I'm saying I'm keeping them out.

You're keeping them in. I'm keeping them out. I don't get no points, though, because you're keeping me out from getting points. I hit an eight. You come down, hit it back to five. I come down and hit an eight. You came back, hit it to five. So you're doing your thing. I'm trying to

keep it clutch. I'm trying to keep it clutch. And no one of us, so our greatness and nothing happens. We don't get nothing for it. It's a great game. You get a pat on the back. Good job. You went seven for seven. He went seven for seven. Way to keep it close. Way to keep it not from being close. Way to keep it not from being close. Way to be a leader,

man. Don't let the team come back on you, man. You know what I'm saying? Skip all that. You can't have outsiders make up what the fuck clutch means. That's the problem with sports. People who are not even part of the game, they're just watching it and trying to figure out how to bring stats into it. You can't tell us what clutch is. Don't tell us what clutch is. Don't tell us what clutch is.

We play the game. We know what shot. Two minutes. They're up two already. You're up two. With two minutes and something left, you hit a shot. That ain't clutch. That's just a fucking bucket.

That's not clutch to you, bro? No. So let me ask you this thing. So that means he scores, whoever scored next is clutch too? Because they scored a regular ass bucket? I just host. So we remember what red is, right? Yeah. He scores, whoever scored next is clutch too, because they scored a regular-ass bucket. I just noticed. So we remember what red is, right?

Yeah. Six seconds or less, right? Five or six. Is that considered, if you're a red guy, like they used to consider like Lou Will, certain guys that when it's red and he get it, this is his shit, he's always going to give us a clutch bucket when it's in red. So we can consider that to be the more clutch than the other one we were just considering.

Because this is a five seconds, four, three. I'm comfortable in this element. Bam. Regardless if we're up five or eight, it don't even matter. It's just... Your clutch gene, mentally, your clutch gene is when the game is on the line, dictating a win or a loss. There's no win or loss with three minutes left, five minutes left. That's just a player, right? It's easier mentally, right, if the game is tied and I got the last shot. That's a lot easier mentally than us being down two

or being down one. Now I got to actually hit it. Me doing this and then I lose overtime. That ain't no pressure. The pressure is when this is a win or

lose like what Klay did. I think it's more pressure. It's it still close to win the game on the end It's not asked close, but it's still the way that no no it's close I'm just something like when it comes to pressure so there should be points on certain things like if they're down Right there they're down by two they're down by one or they're down by three and he hit the clutch shot the tie Yeah, this should be valued points on certain things. The least one should be tie game, and he can come down shooting. That's not, you know what I mean?

It's going to overtime. Yeah, you're going to overtime. Either way, you're going to go, I win or go to overtime. There's no loss there. So is it a shot clock situation? That's clutch. No matter what the score is, it's five for three. I got to create a shot.

It puts you in some type of crunch time. Right. Yeah, pressure. It's pressure. Like my shit in Utah, right? When I hit the Utah turn around. Ain't no pressure. Tie game.

Yeah, tie game. I turn around, I miss it. Bitch, overtime. Yeah. Shit. And that's the shit we used to listen to Isaiah Thomas. He was the first one I heard say that. Like, hey, guys, look, it's tie game.

Give it to me. If I make it, we win. If we miss it, come back over here. We good. There's no pressure on that. There's no pressure on that. Just let me shoot it. Okay. I like that discussion, gentlemen.

So basically, fuck the Clutch Award. Yeah. And the... Yeah, Clutch Award. I don't like fucking shit coming from people who just never... Let me come up with some rules for the NFL. They'll be disgusted.

Fourth and ten, bitch, go for it. You got to. You got to go for it. No field goals. Mathematically, the percentage is higher if it takes you four downs to get ten yards versus three. So if you do three yards and you can't... No, go for all four.

Fuck it. They'll start being mad at me. They'll think I'm goofy if I start making up rules and accolades for sports that I'm just now talking about. Can't get a running back the ball in the third down. Third down. No third downs. Running, running,

can't run. Alright, gentlemen. Because I can tell you right now, if you're a kicker in my world, you'll be more valued than damn near the quarterback. Explain. There's more pressure for a kicker than anybody.

It's a fact. It's win or lose. You are isolated. The whole world, everybody in that field is looking at you. When you're the quarterback, everybody's looking at everything. Right? The kicker, you isolated.

You're like a free throw line. And you've got to make it. You're sitting over there. Everybody else is playing a warm, engaging game. You're just sitting over there. We don't do that shit. We don't need that. We just need them to kick the ball off.

One job. You got one job. I got one job. One job is one. Even for practice, we don't even see you. And listen, go ice the foot, go kick the ball. How is he more valuable than a quarterback, though? Because...

Valuable at all. Who? They can watch out. The kickers, right? We don't need that. We don't need that. Hold on, hold on. How is the kicker more valuable?

He don't got seven rings if it's not for Adam Benatieri. Yeah! What y'all talking about? He don't get those rings without Adam Benatary. Three of them. Adam Benatary kicked four big yards. Go for it. Four to ten, go for it.

Hell, yeah. We don't need no field goal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to win. You don't think Tom Brady could have picked up them? He could have. He could have. He could have.

He could have. He has. He's done it. The only reason they were kicking is because Bill. Because Tom Brady couldn't get it done. He couldn't get it down there. He tried it. Bill, sit your ass down.

Great defense. You Popovich-ing out there. Sit your ass down. No, no, no. Sit your ass down. I'm playing this right now. Let Tom do the motherfucking time. Vin and Terry, scoot the fuck out.

We got this. You know who we got on our team? Not when it's zero time. It's zero time on the clock. It's zero time and you can kick the field with a win or you can try to Hail Mary 40 yards. Is it a tie game? Yes. No, no, they're down. They was losing something. Yeah. It's a tie game. It's a time on the clock. You can kick the field with a win, or you can try to Hail Mary 40 yards. Is it a tie game? Yes. No, no, they're down.

They was losing something. Yeah. It's a tie game. It's a tie game. I'm going to bet with Tom. I'm betting with Tom. I'm going to bet a tie game. So you're going to bet time to throw 40 yards versus your kicker to just win the game.

It's a clutch kicker. It's a clutch kicker. Adam Ben-Terry's won the most points. I just hate when football games are decided by that. I can tell you this right now. In history, most points, you're going to know history most points gonna quarterback is seven right seven sometimes eight and then What I get six for touchdown six and then a two point eight and they get a two point version

Right kickers. I think the top Points in history are kickers. They are cuz they get three six nine three six nine I get posted you get I six nine three six nine three I'm getting one in three yep three six nine then plus a couple he's saying there's a kicker to score more points than everybody in the history of the game it's like the top the top the top ten there's probably like five kickers in the top ten points Tom don't so you tell me I got a figure quarterback's not getting every one of those.

You know what I'm saying? But the kicker, no matter what happens. No, I get it. I get the math. I get all of that shit. But I'm with Brandon on this. Fuck kickers. But that's what I'm saying. Just let them kick the game.

Just let them kick the ball off. Kick rocks. But I don't want a kicker deciding the game. Know what that shit is, though. Yeah. Kick rocks. As a fan. Yeah.

Yeah, well. Cool. A lot of our favorite players wouldn't have as many championships. If I have a kicker, hey, you better go in there and ask for 20 million. Garen Runtee, you better ask Garen Runtee. They're going to get a quarterback who's probably going to have five touchdowns this year. $20 million. And my man over here got 100 points.

He got 100 of them. You better give my man 20 million. What y'all talking about? We taking our talents around. The quarterback is the most valuable. But the kicker is valuable. The kicker got to be up there. Hey, you better take this steak dinner and go home, man.

Because they miss kicks. I don't know how we started to become a football show. The kicker. We everything. We everything. If you want to start putting shit like for this like Replacement So let me smoking cigarettes most it let's get back to basketball and talk about a friend of the program Zion Williamson

Pelicans one of the best teams of league last year for Zion as injury derailed their season They've struggled to replicate that hot start this season dropping their last five games. Zion has struggled individually as well and showed his frustrations after the Pelicans lost to the Mavs Sunday when asked how the offense is different this year. You know like I said last year we had a team meeting and we brought up some things that I could do better, especially with buying into the program. And right now it's tough right now, but like I said, right now I'm taking a little back seat right now. And I'm trusting the process.

I'm trying my best to buy right now. All right. So they just going to pull him off the court. They come and talk. Like what is this? He's still out of breath. Like how this man is still like he just got done in the middle of the play and is all right, speak.

Come on, y'all can't do that to this man, man. But I was going to say something, but I don't want Zion with my ass, so we good. Pelicans are 28th in the league in offensive rating, 23rd in defensive rating. Now, part of that problem is injury bug has been an issue. C.J. McCollum with a collapsed lung. Herb Jones missed the last three games. Trey Murphy, Jose Alvarado have yet to play a game this season But Zion is averaging career low 21.6 points per game shooting 51.5 percent from the field this season and

Him and Brandon Ingram on the court. They were having to establish the rhythm that you would expect them to So y'all start with you first is taking a backseat the right approach for Zion to get the Pelicans back on track He's taking the backseat That's that maybe that might be the problem because he's taking a backseat the right approach for Zion to get the Pelicans back on track? He's taking a backseat. Maybe that might be the problem because he's taking a backseat. But it's easy for him to take it. You don't run your offense through Zion. Zion is one of those type of players that just plays basketball, right? He's going to get offense rebound. He's going to slash.

He's going to try to get the tip done. You know, he's going to put himself in position to actually be effective on the court. So I don't know if they're trying to weed him in and giving him more plays, giving him more zippers and isos. But, you know, it's the beginning of the season. He's been gone. Other people have stepped up. So it's basically trying to figure out what you guys do together as a team right brennan ingram leads the team in scoring zion a second so he is taking the back seat i think that uh ultimately zion to me in comparison when you talk about systems it reminds me more like elton brand when he came in with the clippers and how they ran the

offense through him, regardless of everybody else that was there. I think that Zion's never had the opportunity for the team to look like it was going through him, which is why he's playing the way he's playing. And the demand is the way the demand is. It's simply because we don't know what it looked like to get him the ball in his spot 20 attempts a night. So at this point, it's like, where can he go where he's going to get touches, not just within the offense where he got to move and do all this other shit. Let's run a play. When they ran sets for Elton, that was a conversion right away, whether it was a foul or a point.

Zion not getting the opportunity where he can capitalize on getting a possession just because this is my play he just got back playing no they wasn't they wasn't running plays for him before he wasn't even playing last year he wasn't running no plays for him before that when he did play though he averaged 27 no with no plays no I get that but they not running no plays you gotta work yourself back in like we and they hurt they down they got players hurt. But the problem is they're trying to make it seem like he is, like, hey, don't you think you need to take a backseat? Like, nigga, I am taking a backseat.

I am. He is. That's the problem. I am taking a backseat. He should be deleting scores. You should ask me, should I be deleting scores so I can give you a right fucking answer? Yeah. But right now, I'm sacrificing.

Right. You know, trying to get everybody to keep these egos. Like, I start pointing, and the motherfucker just sat on the bench behind AR-15 on the Olympic team. I should be the number one. I'll start doing shit like that. Real shit. No, I'm just playing. Don't do that, Zion. Right, right, right. You know he watches the show, Gil.

Don't do that. You know he watches the show. But I know you're thinking that shit. I think they team, though, once they get healthy, it's going to fit him better. There's going to be more spacing for him. Like, when you have your real team out there, you know, hopefully CJ can come back from his collapsed lung,

but the spacing will be better for him. Right now, everybody knows it's only Ingram and him out there. Mm-hmm. So... Who are they point guard? Alvarado out. Alvarado Alvarez. Alvarado Alvarez. Yeah, yeah.

Young fellas out. The floor is collapsed, but when you got your real team out there with Alvarado Ingram, with CJ McCollum, and then you add the design dynamic, it's a lot easier for him to do what he do.

Let me tell you what's easier for him. Yeah. Playing with Steph Curry. Hey, hey. Playing with Steph Curry. Hey, hey. Playing with Steph Curry in Golden State. Ship them backpack parts to send the backpack. Draymond and Klay. Send them.

Okay. Send them. Draymond and Klay. Send them to New Orleans for Zion. Whoa. Draymond. Whoa. Send them packing in the backpack

He's drinking water I'm here me In the packing you hear me for Zion Zion and Steph and turn it up. You feel me by themselves. Yes, not that West What is 30 doing right now? Zion and Steph are going to turn it up. You feel me? By themselves? Yes. Not that West. How not? What is 30 doing right now? Killing! Yeah, no, he's killing, but... By himself. By himself.

Yeah, you see their record? We keep loony and we let Zion go crazy. You see their record? Zion is a more athletic-like fucking Draymond. He's like an athletic Draymond, bro. In the West, though? They're going to need more than that in the West. We're going to talk to Warriors in a second, but let's keep it on these fellas.

That's going to compete against Denver. It ain't about, listen, we already did. We did, but you won one. You won one already against that type of team. So we're not even going to bring, oh, against Denver. I like him. Nah, we're not on that because we already did that. Then next year when Ja come back, they're going to do that against Memphis. We're we're not on that cuz we already did that They make sure when I come back they gonna do that against Memphis

We're gonna do that against whoever we need to do it, especially if we got Zion. I'm Steph Steph is Steph I'm Steph. I got Zion bro move around Y'all got a lot of catching up to do he got that gentleman's he got he got you got got the gentleman's in there I don't hear nobody come back I don't hear nobody come back I don't hear nobody proving me wrong just so y'all know listen he's sipping

he over there so heated that he had to change shirts just so y'all know this is my advertisement I was North Face first now I'm Boston No, this is my advertisement I was nor face first first now. I'm bossy now Listen, he's on the goat now you feel me and thank you for sending me what you send me You saying this ain't got nothing to do with sweating. I may Sweat it out down just so he got a little warmness in that cup

Is 80 degrees he got on You know this nigga sweating under there what you mean we all hot in here I'm just you got a whole winter out Just you gotta wear out you I know you sweating under there It's hot in here. Thank you, Steph. It's hot in here. I ain't wrong. But Steph and Zion, 100%. And I ain't hearing nobody prove me wrong. That's not enough. That's all I'm saying.

That's not enough. You're not proving me wrong. You're just saying little simple statements. I am not giving up. Save yourself. I am not giving up Clay and Draymond for Zion. Wow. I'm not doing that.

I give up Wiggins. Wow. I'm doing my legacy like that. There's too many other. I give up Wiggins. They're not double. I'm not giving up my I give a Wiggins. Wow. I'm not doing my legacy like that. There's too many other. I give a Wiggins. I'm not giving up my core.

Wiggins and Clay? I give a Wiggins. Because them three got to retire together. Not Clay. I can't give up a shooter with Steph. I need Steph. Like if I'm going to have Steph. That makes you honor Steph because the other shooter is over there.

They're not honoring shit right now. It's Steph doing his shit by itself. Clay. Yeah. You ain't helping off of Clay. That's the reason Steph can do what he do because you have other people that Steph doing this shit by itself. Yeah. You ain't helping off from Klay. That's the reason Steph can do what he do, because you have other people

that can flame, so he gets to play one-on-one. So you keep Klay, then you get rid of Dre and Wiggins. I can't get rid of defense. They're retiring. Them three got to retire. I can't get rid of my defense. I can't get rid of my legacy. Wiggins, Zion, head up. Wiggins, Zion, head up trade. That's not a head up What, Wiggins-Zion head up? Who? Wiggins-Zion in a head up trade.

I'll do that. That's not a head up trade. Wiggins-CP3? I can't get rid of my legacy. Wiggins-CP3? Shit. You'll do that? I'm not taking that deal.

I got to get more than Wiggins. If I'm the Pelicans, I can get more than that. I got to get a lot more than that. What happened to the game we love? We got to get more than that. CP3 and Wiggins for, uh. Zion and Alvarado? Hell yeah.

If I'm the play, because I want the house for Zion. Oh, of course. I need CP, Wiggins, and then three players from another team. I need Zach Levine. I need all types of stuff. Ain't no way I'm giving up Zion

without five players and four picks. So, Gil, back to Zion. As a star player, how hard is it to buy into a system or coaching? velocity when you and the team are struggling like as a as a as a star player the hardest thing to do is is when you're when you're leading your team and you are the guy and then you Sit down for a while and then someone else takes your seat, right?

The hardest part is coming back and telling dude, hey, good job. Captain's back, right? That's a clash because one, he's done got the respect from all the other players. So when you say, hey, sit down, it's back to me, you go back to number two, you have to deal with the other players also. And you lead this ship into a downward spiral, that whole team turned on you as a player. So that is the hardest challenge of... So you basically got to sit there on some selfish shit to say, all right, I'm going

to be number two, hoping that he fucks up. Yeah. So you can get the team back. Hey, I'm back now. You know what I mean? So there's strategy with coming back as a star player when someone else has been a star the whole time. That's what happened with Bill and Wall.

That was that clash. Bill then carried the team while he's been out and Wall's coming back like, yeah, alright, I'm back. And it's like, no, no, no. No, no, no. This franchise tag feels good.

This is my work now. And that's where the clash comes in. I think it only happens when they're both equal though. I say it's only like that if the two talents are equal. Equal at the same time. Like, if it's a high, high, like, all-timer. Yeah. Like, when KD come back, you already know no matter what's going on.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brian been out for a while. You know what time it is when he come back. So I think it depends on, like, how close the one and two guy is. It's like building walls was close. It was close. It wasn't one was clearly better than the other. A hundred percent. So same thing like in, like, Chicago. Like, is it Zach Levine or is it DeRozan? guy is. It's like building walls was close. It wasn't one was clearly better than the other. 100%.

Same thing like in Chicago. Is it Zach Levine or is it DeRozan? It's not like one is just clearly better than the other because DeMar DeRozan is right there. You know what I mean? We'll see how long their bull is for. It's looking a little shaky in Chicago. All right, but let's keep this thing moving. Y'all talked about the Warriors

so we got to just get to the Warriors. Chef Curry's been cooking this season. Supporting cast has left much to be desired. Curry dropped 38 on the Wolves, which was his sixth 30-point game of the season. Wasn't enough to get the win. Dubs are now 6-5 and have lost three straight games. So we've got some Curry notes for y'all. Curry's outscored any other player on the Warriors by at least five points in all 11 games this season.

Longest streak since MJ 25 years ago. What? This is an important note. I'm just telling you. Who the fuck knows that? Who the fuck knows that? Who the fuck knows that? Who the fuck knows that?

Who the fuck knows that? Who the fuck knows that? Who the fuck knows that? But here we go. The analysts know that. It was researched. It was researched, okay? Steve, Steve on his job, man.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What does that mean? Wait, wait, wait, that's my man Steve. My man Steve, he on his job, man. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's my man, Steve. My man, Steve, he on his job. No, no, no. What does this stat again say again? So he's outscored. He's been the highest scorer on the team.

Outscored any other player on the Warriors by at least five points in every game this season. All 11 games. Longest streak. Get the fuck out of here. Ain't no fucking way. Ain't no way. Dude, that's a good note. MJ? What? So when Kobe was averaging four, then he had to... Street so I know fuck out of here ain't no fucking way

MJ what so when Kobe was averaging for that he had the artist is oh, okay. Okay. I'm gonna say hell, nobody was close to that. When James Harden scored, damn near. 50-30, come on. There was nobody close to that. So it's the start of the season. Yo, get that head out your heart. Get that head out your heart. Get the head out your heart. The way y'all made it seem, it was like period before when the season started.

Okay, got it. The start of season. I could have read it better. That's my fault. Get that head out your heart, boy. You're going to be another. Just like your dad. I was about to say Dang. I was like, Gil ain't rolling. I was about to hear it. No one ever says, Gil ain't rolling.

He said, wait, what? He said, wait, hold on. Wait, what? And he sat up, too. He was about to really get it. I read it wrong just to fuck with you, Gil. He said I had no friends the other day, and that shit really resonated.

But I had to check my Rolodex like, damn. I was thinking, I was going to go say no, but I was like, wait. I checked the Rolodex like, damn. I was thinking the same. I was going to go say nothing, but I was like, wait. I checked the Rolodex. It is a little light right now. It is a little light right now. So Steph is currently leading the league with 338 points. We have that graphic and we can put it back up. Y'all know we

do what we like to do here on this show. So he's leading the league with 338 points on 215 field goal attempts while the trio of Clay Wiggins and CP3 has combined for 367 points on 360 field goal attempts. Shout out to Sam Esfandiari from Light Years Pod for bringing that to everybody's awareness. The Legend Sandman Playback TV, Gil, where you've been known to get your flares out as well. So, Gil, start with you. What's wrong with the Warriors,

and what does Steve Kerr need to do to fix them? Well, I mean, losing Jordan Poole kind of hurt them because he was someone who just went and got his own bucket. The team has been designed around Steph. And we asked that question, has Klay gotten better in the last something years? Pre-injury, before the injury and everything.

We know what he does, but his skill, has he gotten better with his talent? Learning how to dribble, getting a backup move, getting something that he can add Every year we've see that curry is adding something every year to his game has clay added anything to help Right has Wiggins added anything to help right the older players get you supposed to add something to keep you You know here, so if they take away if I take away your shot, Clay, what do you have to combat that?

Knowing that, oh, he's going to take two dribbles and try to pull up. If that's been the scouting report from the first year you came in to now, you can say you haven't gotten better. You just got wiser and smarter. So there's nothing you can do because whatever you had to do was all summer to work on that skill so you know when you look at Steph I can see why Steph trains away he's he trains he has to play like this yeah yeah I agree I agree and I'll

say going further that when you look at the Warriors cp3 was exactly what Steph needed he needed a point guard that can handle the ball that can get him open When you look at the Warriors, CP3 was exactly what Steph needed. He needed a point guard that can handle the ball, that can get him open. Now Dre is focused on getting Steph open. You would think that Klay would be in the mix with that because they're both come off curls, moving out the ball type guys, but somehow the ball is sticking to Steph more than it is to Klay, and Steph is getting all the shit that he would get.

You know what I'm saying? And then you look at Steph, I think he's playing in his natural position. I don't think his natural position is a point guard, it's an off the ball two, where he can run around and get his shit off. And CP put him in this position. I don't really like considering CP to be the factor of something like a contributor more than a facilitator. He's facilitating to do what he do best.

And I think he not, we're not looking at him to score. We're looking at him to get these guys involved. And Wiggins and Klay just not stepping up to the plate. And they're not getting it done. No, I think the Warriors, I think the Warriors just having the same problems that the Bucks are having, you know, the Clippers are having. You know, a lot of these teams that got other new superstars. I think they're just having early bugs right now.

I don't think it's nothing major. Steph is in shape, so of course he's going to play. What's the early bug, though? I mean, just getting used to playing with each other. Chemistry. The rims ain't changed. The ball ain't changed. Yeah, but it's still chemistry.

I mean, when Miami first started, wasn't they 8-8? 8-8. All these different... It's going to take a minute. It's going to take a while, I think. But shouldn't, I guess, with this quarter that's been together so long,

that's your decision? No, that's what I said. It shouldn't be with a quarter this long. But how about this? I think I'll take a step forward. Yeah, when people... When we talk about players like, did he get better?

If Klay could dribble like Steph, how much better would he be? No, what I'm saying is if he had handle to get his own It would be too much. But what I'm saying, now you're looking at a whole other player. I remember

I made a take back then. I said I value Klay more than Steph because he's taller. He can shoot the same. If I give him Curry's handle, I can make him the point guard. Now I got a 6'6", 6'7", point guard who can play point and two. So I'm like, Clay, if you get your handle tight and you can be able to run and pick and roll and do all... See, I want to put the ball in your hand. Yeah.

And obviously, in 10 years, 11 years, it still hasn't happened. It's like, ah. And he got the middie, too. I would have been fired because I would have traded Steph for Clay. I think Wiggins should take a step. He's younger than those guys are. Like, anytime you have a court that's been together for so long and they're aging, when you have an aging star, you normally have a younger one to kind of match it.

And Wiggins is that athletic guy who can score, who can shoot, who can get isos and get you above his light, but he's just content to be in a third wheel where now Steph needs him to be high octane until Klay gets himself back together. If Klay ever gets back to that point where he's He might not get back to that point And if not we just got to be that next high octane player or it might be time to go it might be time to

Make a move. No. Yeah to the bench and go bring up one of the young You know, let's talk Wiggins real quick. He's been in a major slump this season Data shows the Warriors are playing much better when he isn't on the floor. He's averaging career lows in points, assists, minutes per game, tied with his career-long shooting percentage. And he's four from 26 from the three this season. Well, he lost his identity. He lost his identity.

You know, when his father, before the father thing happened. I think coming back, trying to figure out how to navigate all of that. And then the Jordan Poole shit happened. And then team chemistry. I think it fucked up his psyche. And now he don't know what kind of player they are looking for. Like, what do we want from Andrew Wiggins? What do we want?

What are we looking for you to do? Are we looking for 17? Are we looking for eight rebounds? Like, he's out rebounds like he's out there playing like he's not even part of the offense he's trying to figure it's trying to figure it out maybe he's trying to find the love again like maybe you know what his father would you know maybe i don't know wait no no no because he wasn't he he was playing well before that and he was playing well when he came back. When he came back, he played well. He was balling.

I'm not going to consider it. I think compared to the situation and the circumstance, we could say he was balling. No. But, you know, it was like, what, 16-17 a game? Something like that. Now they need that 17-17. But we was looking for that. They need both, like you said.

They need 16-8 or 16-7 rebounds. Talking about that 2022 playoff stretch, there was points in that finals where his name was in consideration for finals. Obviously, no Steph was going to get it. But just the level he was playing at to looking at him now, and you literally got Warriors fans making jokes on Twitter about being on the trade machine for the first time in a long time. But even Jordan Poole now, Poole's struggling with the Wizards.

How much are they missing him on this squad right now? Man, they missing him like crazy cuz it's like one punch fucked everything up For multiple guys, you know Mike Dunleavy had to come in there and try to sort shit out But even for that it's like you you lose Jordan and then you got Wiggins in limbo and you got clay He ain't been read up yet. You don't know where everybody's mind is and Compared to that that championship run that they had everybody's mind was locked in the wind and when they won right? Everything was good until pop now. It's like what the fuck is going on. I think it's I think it's just too early You gotta give us some time. I think it's too early

I think it's too early to say if they missing anything right now. I think it's just way too early Yeah, no Wiggins in last year's playoffs He didn't score in double digits one time out of 14 years. Oh, he was balling. Yeah 17 22 20 18 20 13 17 15 11 16 17 25 6 They don't need that for the whole season, but that's what I'm saying So, you know, we can't we can't use that now. Well, you can only... Because when he first came back, so it's like, what did he do this summer? Did he just take the summer off?

Did he... I think Jordan Poole was his X Factor, though. Taking the pressure off him to actually have to do certain shit. Jordan Poole's out there. They out there playing off each other. No, but they was... But he was balling even with Jordan Poole was there. That's what I'm saying.

They was playing off of each other. Off of the... But there's more point. There's more shots. No's more shot. He started though. Yeah Wiggins. Yeah. Yeah So so enjoy so it's like you take him out to start. Is he still starting now? Yeah Yeah, see P coming off the bench, right? Yeah All right So the fact that the guy that's coming off the bench is not the guy that's gonna take you take pressure off of you for scoring Wiggins

You now have more pressure on you to do things that you didn't have pressure on doing before. No, but your 17 at night still don't change nothing. That shouldn't change your 17 or whatever. It should go up. It's pressure now. It should go up. No, it should go up.

It should, but- Yeah, because now you got a guy who's looking up. Yeah. Not some guy who's not even looking at you. And you don't got another guy on the floor that's opening the game up for you. CP3 is. No. CP3 is more setting up other guys.

Yeah. Jordan Poole's opened the floor for Wiggins to thrive an easy shot. How? When he's not even passing the ball. Because he's a threat. When you're a threat on the floor, everybody got to collapse. We're making it seem like when him and Jordan Poole on the floor, it's just them. I'm saying they complement each other. I'm saying they complement each other. There's no Curry on the court.

Like, he's on the court with Curry and Clay. You should be able to what? You should be able to what? Get your fucking fucking... Yeah, you should be way more open. No one's guarding you. It should be way easier. No, no.

He's the one out of them. He's the one they're not guarding. LeBron James, you got way easier shots. For sure. Nobody going to double team me. That's what I'm saying. Like, he playing with Clay and... He used to be a number one option. That's what I understand Like it's just weird. We had Iggy on the couch He did point out that when the words were struggling pool was a guy was consistent get to the free throw line

Pulling the pressure was what I gotta do. We're not there no more I'm just what they gotta do with Wiggins because we know cuziggins get that ball up, the whole defense got to shift, and now Wiggins can play a little bit more downhill, more aggressive. There's pressure off him. Now he don't handle the ball at all. CP handles the ball 90% now, and it's mostly to pick and roll guy, pick and kick out guy. Wiggins is a more random, slashing type of guy.

Yes, he played the same type of ball Poole played. Yeah. And that's why when he going into the structure side of it, it's harder for him to figure out how to get his points. Cause it ain't, it ain't free. Like I'm talking about like, so when he starts,

like what, what happened? Yeah. What's he doing? Just waiting for a pool. Can I ask you something? If me and you played on the same team, right?

You think you're going to average more points with me or Norris? You're asking me? Yeah. or Norris? You asking me? Yeah. Am I gonna do what now? Are you gonna average more points playing with him or with me? Which one you gonna average more points? I'm pool.

He's CP. You pool. I'm pool. Oh, I'm definitely. You go out. Yeah. You gonna average more points with him? Yeah, because they're going to be on him.

The focus is going to be on him. Focus is going to be on him. Oh, okay. I get what you're saying. Focus is going to be on him. Because he ain't passing though. He ain't passing. He's going to have to pass.

It's not high school. It's not high school. He's passing it to you. But he's passing it to everyone. Right. He's passing it to everyone. And I'm passing it to no one. He's not coming in saying, I'm gonna get you to rock. I'm saying, I'm gonna play off you because once you get off it, man, I got free range

because you ain't got it no more. Yeah, but Jordan- I can go to work. Jordan Poole ain't playing off none of y'all. What you mean? Like, he's not coming down looking for nobody. Come on, now we're taking it too far. Jordan Poole plays basketball, bro. He just looks for his own shot first, just like Gill.

He looks for his own shot. You're looking for your own shot. So you're going to score more with me than someone who's looking for you. I think the tempo is faster with Jordan Poole. Yeah, with Jordan Poole. So it creates more shots for Wiggs. Yes, for everybody. CP slows that thing.

It slows it all the way down. And like he said... Poole didn't average nearly five assists last year, too, just throwing that out there. Oh, yeah, that's easy past Stephen Curry. I'm just letting you know. That's it. He shot a lot.

He do this all the time. I'm just going to be honest. Sick. God damn. That's easy, ain't it? Let's talk about Klay a little bit. So Klay's been struggling. It's easy, ain't it? Let's talk about Clay a little bit. So Clay's been struggling. He said recently, first 10 games, I didn't shoot it as I'm capable.

So the next 10 games, I'm going to be lights out. But do we think Clay is just struggling, or should we adjust our expectations for him at this point in his career? We've got to adjust expectations just like the defense is adjusted to him. Right? You're older, you're slower with no new attributes. Yep. You become easier to guard versus when you were a little younger and healthier.

Like if I know this is what you're trying to do, it's easier for me to guard you now. Especially if I know now you're not going to put it down. You're not going to post me. If you do post up, you're going to take one dribble, turn around, jumper. Like, I play against you for six years, seven years now, so I know exactly what you're trying to do, and you haven't changed. Nothing. Like, when D-Wade started slowing down, and now he got a pump fake.

He adjusted his game. You have to adjust your game, and the fact that he's not adjusting his game to add something to keep People in a limbo. Yeah right now. I like I know you're gonna shoot soon as you touch you're gonna try to shoot So now now I'm coming to jump knowing that all you do is gonna dribble one One level to the side and then check it so I can jump and then jump knowing it You're not gonna take two dribbles in to do that pull you can going to go one to the side and start like we they know your game now yep you have to add scouting report I think we can't Stephen Brown and KD spoiled us like they 17 and 21 years in 15 years in everybody can't continue to keep getting better at that pace

like everybody can't do that so like Stan Clay is slowing down a bit. It's like it's not insulting. It's normal. Like, nobody does what Steph does. Nobody does what KD 17 years in. Nobody does what Bron. So it's okay. Like, two major injuries,

and you're in year 12 or 13. Like, you should lose a step. It's okay. But, like, start to make some adjustments to your game So I think it's both he's struggling cuz he's gonna shoot better But you got to taper down the high octane like he used to be I just don't think so she's gonna have spurt no City what should Claire or Wiggins come off the bench for who? No, no, no. I'm not saying that. Nah. I'm saying he's still a starter. He didn't slow down that goddamn much. He didn't slow down that much.

I'm just saying it's OK if he took a step down a little bit because everybody can't be Steph, bro. Everybody can't be Brian B, year 17, 20, still pushing it, like still playing at that high-octane level. Everybody can't do it. So what if it continues to be like this and they keep struggling? You got to think about making a move. That's the tough we all use in business.

Listen, he's a shooter. He's a shooter. He's a flat-out shooter. Now people are really guarding him for shooting that shot. There's going to be some times where curl all the way, try to make a layup. You have to do something different for them to think you're going to do something different. Like, if I'm going to shoot the ball, if I'm setting myself up to try to hit a game at the end of the game, the beginning of the game, I'm driving. I'm getting as many free throws, so now everybody's pivoting.

Right? For me to be a great gamer, I have to be a great driver first. Right? I'm driving, driving, driving. So now when I start my load up, you're backing up. That's all I wanted you to do anyway. So let me ask y'all this. So will we compare now, Clay,

to any of the other just regular shooters in the league? Like Harris, Struis? Nah, nah, nah. He ain't fall off that. He ain't fall off that. Nah, nah, not yet. Nah, nah, come on.

He ain't that far down yet. Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to like when you're in the game to shoot the ball? He ain't fall off that much. He ain't fall off that much. Not yet. Come on. He ain't that far down yet. Is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just to like when you're in the game to shoot the ball? He ain't. Like we sub you in and we need you to hit shots. He ain't that far down. So let's.

The pedigree. I'm about to say the pedigree is still there. So we interviewed Steph this summer. Count your fucking days. Steph this summer said the Warriors used to be the hunted. Yeah. Now they're the hunter, right? So far the hunt ain't been looking good.

Six and five. So, Brandon, you asked this, but at what point, if you're the Warriors, do you consider making a move to get Curry more help? And who on the roster is safe? I think the only people that's on the roster that is safe is Steph, Clay, Draymond, and Looney. I think after that, it's just up for grabs.

Wiggins ain't safe? No. By his age? No, he ain't safe, bro. It's a good trade-in. You seen the Clippers just traded Nicholas Baton and Morris Quinn? Yeah, just for business-wise, I think he just, you know, but I think the, like, I mean, Dray, Clay, and Steph, I mean, I'm keeping those three together. I'm gonna just, you know, but I think the, like, I mean, Dre, Klay, and Steph,

I mean, I'm keeping those three together. I'm going to just ride it out with them. We talked about this, but Klay, last year of his deal, it seems like he'll take a homie discount to come back. I hope so. We hope, but at $43 million, averaging 16 points a game, and to your guys' point now, losing a step. I mean, by all-star game, I mean, by all-star?

Yeah. Oh, man, Wiggins is only 28. Yeah, so he... Like, he's in his prime, so he... Yeah, that's what I'm saying. No, what I'm saying, he's the most tradable piece.

Yes. Yeah, because he would have to be in whatever move they want to make. Exactly. Like, yeah, he's like, if you're a team out there and you're saying, you know, I need to,

I'm rebuilding He's still at the age where he can rebuild and still be a number one option 28 needs who stepped in win his first championship to 27 wigs would just be another utility player on any what I'm saying is He's only 28. He's only 28. So he hasn't even hit a peak. Like, he ain't even really hit his peak yet. Like, he's been in the league so long that we think he's old, but 28. I think it's more the expectation. It's the expectation. He's the number one pick.

I don't know where his mental is, though. Yeah, he don't. He's content. Most tradable piece, but that piece is hard to trade now when he's not out there playing at the level. Yeah, but what I'm saying is, like, if I'm a team and I'm content like most tradable piece, but that piece is hard to trade now when he's not out there playing at the level Yeah, but what I'm saying is like out like if I'm a team and I'm like, alright I'm trying to rebuild and I'm looking at pieces and Let's say

Brooklyn right you got three players. That's 27 your best player right now is 22. I got Wiggins 28 I mean I you know what I mean? I can get like a, this is like a veteran that's still young enough to play five, six, seven more years. You know, you can still, you can add him to Dallas. You know what I mean? You can add him to Dallas. He's still young enough. Get Cam Thomas. Wiggins for Cam Thomas?

And a bunch of some other ones. Yes, he did. Now, if they do something like that, Wiggins for Cam?? And some other ones. Yes, he did. Now, if they do something like that, Wiggins for Cam? I don't know if that helps. Because Wiggins is who guards all the killers. But Cam Thomas is about that. Wiggins is the one who's going to guard.

And he got size. And he got size. He's going to guard. If you bring in Cam Thomas, who he guarding? No, I mean, come off the bench, bring Jonathan Kaminga, or bring one of them young ones. Kaminga?

I'm bringing Cam Thomas over here to bring him off the bench? Yeah. The dude who's like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. To start. To start. You can't start with Clay and Steph. You can't start. Well, you can't. You're diminishing him and his talent. No, we're not.

Yeah, because you're trading. No, we're not. You're trading him. They just gave Jordan Poole 140. Yeah, but why would you bring Cam over to be a role player? Because they need more offense. He's averaging 27 a game. They need more offense.

They're not making that move, man. Listen, Cam's next move is a starter to All-Star. If I'm looking at... On what team? But, I mean, you got to watch it. Right here. I'm looking at him. I'm looking at...

I'm with 2B. I'm looking at Klay. I'm looking at Klay. He came to feel like Klay. Klay. He came to feel like Klay. You ain't never knew that you was 27 ever, ever, you ain't never, you ain't never, you was 27 ever, ever in your life. Yeah, but listen, you can't, it ain't about that, though. It ain't about that, though.

Hey, Curry, you need more help, right? Here I am. Listen, that's... But the way he play, I don't know if that compliments Steph. Buckets. Hey, listen, I'm averaging... Off the bench, though. Buckets.

Off the bench is more valuable. That's what I'm saying. Off the bench, you can... Listen, off the bench, you can... Ah, man. What was the Splash Brothers? What made the Splash Brothers splash? Nah, but I like it.

They was both in the game at the same time. If I'm getting careful, I'm getting the same thing. Like, during pool, I'm getting the same thing. Now, one is in the pool, one is in the kiddie pool, okay? One is in the ocean swimming.

One is... You know, he had to go back. Little plastic pool. In a little plastic pool. They did like a... With the water holes. Swimming one is they had you know, you had to go back I'm giving a wig so I need defense though cuz you got to build a guard has my guard Luca and man It's only been a couple, it's only been a couple games. It has only been like, but do you give them until what, January? I'm giving them to All-Star.

I'm not giving them until nothing. The fucking season has started. There ain't no fucking, oh, we rusty, training camp. You had training camp. You had four months

of fucking summer. Don't come in here talking about we need 20 games and all. Man, fuck that. Nah. I don't give, I don't give. They keep proving it. Come in here and play we need 20 games and fuck that. Nah. I don't give... They keep proving. Come in here and play, bro.

They keep proving. Yo, check is still in the mail. Yo, check in the mail. Why the fuck we got to wait for you? Why we got to wait for your talent to show up? I'm with him on this one. I don't... You treat your shit like that?

I'm with him on this one. I don't give... I can't give Klay... I can't give Klay... You get no fucking off days, nigga. I can't give Klay this is only't give Klay... You get no fucking off days, nigga. I can't give Klay, this is only nine games into the season because we have the other Splash brother.

And the other Splash brother is fucking splashing. He's splashing. Right? So I can't say, hey, it's only nine games. One ain't splashing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We...

We have the other Splash. We have the other brother right here. We can't say that you're not even on the same atmospherism right now. Right? We need you at top tier too because this is where he's been playing at the beginning of the season for the last...

Since he done tasted greatness, he's been showing the fuck up. We ain't questioned Steph. We ain't questioned Steph since his fucking ankle. My nigga. My nigga joined the team.

My nigga Gilbert done joined over, man. We ain't questioned his ability since we questioned his ankle. Real shit. There ain't been one season where I don't know... Real shit. I don't know if Steph has been stepping this year. No, he's been like... Oh, shit, he's still going.

Preach. Preach. Preach. Preach. Preach. So we can't give Clay the benefit of the doubt. Why though? Because it's not his job to carry the load that Steph carries.

He's not Steph. This is the motherfucker who done scored 60. Hold on. But his role has nothing to do with Steph doing it. He ain't scored 60. He didn't score 60 when he was by himself. He scored 60 with two Hall of Famers

on the court. That's a whole fucking another different... Come on, Norris. Come on. Come on. Before the injury. Come on.

Before the injury. Before the injury. If you scored 60 with LeBron, D-Wade, and Bosh, you are a whole different breed of a man. Wow. Wowzers.

If they off the court, if they off the court court you were supposed to do that absolutely right with them on the court He different mode soup so we know what you're gonna be like if they go and so the fact that You ain't playing well right now. It's like You don't have leverage, but you got it He's a four-time champion. He's a multi-time all-star you can't just treating like he just no no no you regular dude You got a massage that he can't walk in like he's some regular dude No, don't walk in here shoot him like you play at fucking YMCA my nigga Come in here and shoot this bitch like you a Golden State Warrior

Like don't come in here shoot that bitch bitch like you a Golden State warrior like don't come in here shoot that bitch like what you doing shoot that bitch like you you clay shoot it like it's you bro shoot that like you clay you want us to give you leverage I'm just giving the Warriors to Austin I'ma give him a little bit of time nine games in I can't do clay like that he wasn't injured before like he played last year he did did. So Steph Curry aside, do the Warriors. They used to be that young fly dude in the club getting all the work, but they turned into

that old dude in the club that's starting to scare the work. Me? Looking like me in there. You used to have all the work. We're talking a lot about the work. We talk about the work all the time. See, look. I'm just saying, you went on the episodes without me. We got McNabb. We got McNabb. We got McNabb. See look, I'm just saying you went on the episodes without me

Like that transition period in a club initial I used to get all the work not a in the club tell everybody how they used To get all the walking What's up no more you old It's just weird when you see see a dude that's just been he's so aggressive with no thought process like when When the Warriors were down by 1015 get a ball to clay He has no thought process of time scoring like where is what happened? Where's that dude at? Yes, like when when? Warriors are making these great comebacks, Klay was

the anchor of that. It wasn't Steph, it was Klay. Absolutely. When he was beating on Portland, Portland was up, Klay was the one who was bringing them back in those games. And then Curry hit the game, the bucket that put them over the top and go, go, go. But where is the Klay?

I'm looking at you taking 14 shots shots when you had KD on the team what you was taking 18 shots hmm that's different you know for 14 shots we don't criticize you for 14 no I need you see with another guy well you got another guy out there and you take taking 18 you definitely should be taking 20 now. You taking 18 with Curry and... And you telling me you why are you taking 14 now? Fuck that. But the pace is they playing slower now with CP. It's slower. Is it not slower?

So is it father time for a lot of players? Yes, that's what I'm saying. He not staffing. He averaged 18 shots last year. But still though that-off is different. It might be the pace. Yeah. It might be the pace. CP is slowing that thing down when that second one comes in.

Why would it be, though, if we're talking about he getting his shots the same way? He ain't getting his shots the same way. He ain't getting his shots the same way. He's averaging one less. So how was he getting his shots before? What was the action? It was like this. They ran that split action a lot.

Half court. Half court. Split action a lot. A lot. And Klay got his shit off in the half court split action. Split actions. Nothing has changed. No, no, no.

It's changing now. There were some times where that ball was going up the court. Yeah, he would. Klay shooting one on five. He would. He would. One on five. He ain't getting those now.

He's not getting those. He didn't handle the ball at all in the second unit because CP handled the ball all the time. Oh, so that's it. That's it. All the time. You're taking away his transition points, right? You still got second chance points. You still got, you know, half courts, pin downs.

No, it's the James Harden effect too, right? Where if you see if, do you remember that clip I just, I put the clip where James Harden has him, pulls it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boom, boom. Does this thing him, pulls it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boom, boom. Does this thing and then the air ball. Yeah. That six seconds, seven seconds of nothing is...

Like if he's playing with pool or playing with some fast guys and they shooting, shooting, shooting, we get down the court and come back and we done shot three shots in the last 24 seconds versus I'm sitting here probing, probing, probing, and I waste 24 seconds for this one shot. Man. Right? You know, you're taking two shots out of a possession. Yep.

You know, that could affect the two when you think about it. Yep. So remains to see how the Warriors will finish this out. I believe in you, Clay. We'll monitor the situation. Who me Warriors, please. Clay, we're rolling with you. My West Coast LA homie. I believe in you clay woman our situation who me rolling with you. We want to go la home You know, we got the the tough crowd curry collab

Which is Thomas only going up. I would say cuz it's a time that you know back that nigga, man Tom the dick it's time to do it is time to Jason is time to Jason component Steve no No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, We ain't doing that. That's the homie. We ain't doing that. Wait, listen. We just need our photo shots from Clay. That's it. Stojakovic in the corner. No, we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. Stoi. Stay in the corner, Stoi.

No, we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. Rashad, we got to talk about your Celtics since you're our resident Celtics fan. Jason Tatum still torching the league. Latest victim was the Knicks. You don't remember? He traded teams.

Yeah, he traded teams. Halloween. You want me to do it again? You want me to re-up? Remember when I re-upped? Oh, wow. Yeah. So no more Miami Heat. I'm off the he traded team. Yeah, he traded team. Halloween. You want me to do it again? You want me to re-up? Remember I re-upped? Oh, wow. Yeah. So, no more Miami Heat.

I'm off the niggas. Okay. I'm off. Okay. I'm off them. Okay. Yeah. It's Celtics.

It's blasphemy for me because I came from the Lakers side. Yes. I'm a New York Yankee fan. I hate everything Boston. Is that a Yankee thing? Wow. But I'm logical. New York Yankees. I hate everything Boston. Is that a Yankee thing? Wow. But I'm logical. You know what I'm saying? New Yorkers have the best sound effect.

And I refuse. You refuse to stay still? I refuse to be coming in here with these niggas with the way Miami, you know what I'm saying? I knew it. I was like, if I got a chance to change before the season, I got to change. I got a chance to change. Let me change. Season two, you know what I'm saying?

I almost sat in that chair. I was like, yeah, I'm with the Miami Heat. I even said it coming in. I'm like, nah, man. Not with this emo shit. Not with this half-ass, half-ass shit y'all niggas. Y'all still got Lowry. Y'all ain't moving none of them. You could have got a bagel

or something for them niggas man move Yeah, so I'm with the so he's we struggling with our motherfucking team not because y'all niggas were smiling before Cuz not a good struggle is smiling cuz you have Miami heat. Yeah He switched so he could talk Can we put a pole do y'all respect Nah, don't. Now he switched so he can talk. Yeah, yeah. Look at you, you're silky. Yeah, yeah. It's early. It's early. Let's go. Hey, you know what?

Chat, can we put a poll? Do y'all respect his change? Yes or no? Do y'all respect his bandwagon jumping? We've been the same. We've been the same. We've been the same. Put this poll up, too.

Does he give a fuck? Does he give a fuck? Move out with y'all niggas, too. All right, can we put the poll? Does he give a fuck? Does Rashad give a fuck? Does he give a fuck? Does he give a fuck? Does he give a fuck? Does he give a fuck? Does he give a fuck? Does he give a fuck about what y'all niggas think?

Does he give a fuck? Does Rashad care how you feel about him flipping from the H.S.? It's 100%. He don't give a fuck. He don't give a fuck about what y'all talking about. Let's talk about Tatum quick. Like I say, torch in the league. Latest victim was the Knicks,

who have been one of the best defensive squads this season. Who? The New York Knicks, Gil. Knicks? Show some respect. Do the Knicks have a sound effect? Nah. Y'all off, darling.

Once darling get booted. Yeah, they sound effective. They got the fourth best defense. They got the fourth best defense. They got it all, bro. Hey, James Darling. Oh, good. They were looking ass. Tatum dropped 35 darling. Oh good. They're looking at like post tandem drop 30 35 points

That big lineup that big lineup got him at the tube He got 17 points in the fourth quarter. Oh, that's and one see that big line. I've got him at the tube Look at this man cook it. He also has six rebounds seven assists Hey, man, Boston. No, no Boston. I want, I want my credit for giving y'all that lineup. Putting them at the two. Because you get to do that post-up all day. Easy buckets. I'll give you credit.

So, after the game, Paul Pierce had high praise for Tatum. Same quote. Let's show it. Tatum is the best American basketball player in the world. I'm glad he learned how to use emojis, too, now. You know, it was some dark days. Some dark days. With the clip art and all that good shit.

So Truth is obviously biased, like our resident Celtics fan. Damn. And technically Embiid is an American citizen now. He got his papers. But is Tatum the best American hooper in the league right now? Wait, so wait. You just said Embiid got his papers, right in the league right now? Wait, wait, so wait. You just said Embiid got his papers, right?

He got his papers. It didn't seem... Wait, wait, so basically the Euros are not taking over. I just want to throw that out there. Then if Embiid is an American, because he won MVP last year. But we wasn't talking about him. We wasn't even talking about him anyway. No, I'm just saying.

He wasn't even referring to him in the... Right there, though. Best player in the world right now? American. American. And B got his papers, bruh. The best American player? Wait, hold on. Why we gotta say American?

KD, LeBron, and all that. Why we gotta say American? Like, like... Because he ain't the best player in the world. Who is? Steph Curry. He's American. Who?

He's playing, right? He's American. Giannis and Joker are in the league? The Euro. Oh, y'all have to like... No, no, no. They know. They know. Who is? Steph Curry. He's American. He's playing, right? He's American. Giannis and Joker are in the league. The Euro. No, no, no. They said American. They know.

Yeah, but he said why. So Paul Pierce said Tatum is the best American basketball player in the world. I just had to qualify that with him being his American. Listen, I'm going to always be biased. When you say best player in the world, player, you shouldn't be able to stand behind your team. So that means one-on-one basketball. Okay.

That ain't what that means. One-on-one? He know that. He know that. He know that. Then don't say the best player in the world. You got 15 other dudes helping you be the best player. Nah.

That's part of the game He want to play well, look you gotta ask what game is he playing? I asked he got to call it something for the date basketball. What do you plan? What is that? What is that? You plan for down for down the best one-on-one players different going on theory on how this NBA was built That's right. You're not to trick me into the new logic. Magic Johnson was playing team basketball. Larry Bird was playing team basketball. Michael Jordan was playing one-on-one basketball by himself. And he became the best player in the world

and overtook team shit. Nah, nah. His team wasn't like that for him. Wasn't like that. Wasn't like that for him to be doing all that. But as soon as he had a team that he could play team ball, he played team ball and still dominated individually. Thank you, brother.

When Kobe averaged 35, was he the best player in the world? Yes. I mean, LeBron was. No, no, when he averaged 35. LeBron averaged 30 that same year, rebounds 76. So me, I think LeBron was still the best player in the world. LeBron, if you're watching, give and give him a look why cuz his team was better Yeah, he match up against Kobe was you know

He normally be cold and head-to-head matchups his team would be Kobe team 16 It's very good in a six against Cody's team his team is better you already Bound he might have seen him. I mean you see the ball, but okay, but but do you see the bombs he had on them? Why people used to say that about the Cleveland teams And he had a number one Y'all had homeless players he had bums Different Wow Yeah In a Laker fan at that time was it was now it was rough it was rough I hear I don't want to make them look bad. But if I start naming something to Cleveland players, but listen

No, no, they were made them the business Park I'm gonna show you I'm gonna show you here's the lineup. Here's the lineup. Listen to this lineup. How about this lineup? Tell me how you feel, man. You got... Tell me how was Kobe supposed to get open. He had Lamar Odom, Chris Mims, Smush Parker on the court. He had Kwame Brown

on the court at the same time. And then he had Luke Walton Listen listen, no His teammate about playing that's one of them most nasty is late about time. It's not it's not though. No, hold on Pass it Pass it pass it back That's it fucking back What do you do to the ball? Pass it back. Pass it back.

Pass it fucking back, bro. I'm not giving you the ball to do nothing but pass it back. And you can't tell him he's not the best player in the world. And this is what he does. No, it's between them two. To me, I saw them as a problem. But what I'm saying is the same thing with Jason Tatum. Like, what is dictating you being the best player versus somebody else? Playing better than them.

I don't care. Your record does not tell me you're the best. You you being the best player versus somebody else plan better than now I don't care your record does not tell me you're the bet you just being the best player I read that maxi so like the soul Tatum Kurtz. So Tatum curry right now Tatum curry right now is probably leading As the best players who that's America why but but why and Joker? Just American Doing what they got they're leading their team. I was actually playing better. They're leading American citizens Yes But he ain't playing the B series Maxie's the new James Harden

He's the new he's the new James Harden. He ain't got there yet. He ain't got there. That 50 just put him on notice. I'm not ready to compare nobody to Embiid. Embiid is still the best player. Embiid is still the best player. He just...

American Citizen Embiid. You taking Tatum over American Citizen Embiid? No, just because you got your American Citizen over shit, you gotta do it here. He's one of us now. He's been doing it for a year. He won MVP as an American Citizen. Tatum, I'm rolling with you. The year he won...

Listen, the year he won MVP, he won MVP as an American Citizen. He won MVP as an American Citizen. He won MVP as an American Citizen. Tatum, I'm rolling with you. The year he won... The year he won... The year he won... Yeah shit, yeah, do one of us now. Yeah, he's been doing it for you He wanted MVP as an American citizen Tatum I'm rolling Listen the year he wanted MVP. He's an American citizen one

Is that how you be talking? So we're trying to make it weird. We can't do that. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. He did it. I'm telling on him. He did it. Tatum.

Tatum. I didn't tell him on him. Tatum Curry. Tatum Curry. Tatum Curry and B right now. I mean, Anthony Davis ain't too far behind. Don't forget about him. AD ain't been.

AD ain't been. Anthony Edwards, you mean? Anthony Edwards, too. And B. And B. I mean, Embiid, but AD is averaging. He's fucking, he's killing. I put Ant-Man next to him. He played one bad half. I put Ant-Man next to Tatum.

Tatum's cooking. No, yeah, I don't put him next to him, but he, he, he. They can hang out together. They can eat lunch together. Yeah, they can eat lunch together. Same table. Yeah. Move around a little bit.

Same tier of work. I mean, the. Their work tier. Yeah, work tier. It's Curry and Tatum. 100%. I mean, Curry, I mean that it worked here. Yeah I just said I said curry gotta be number one Bro Tatum is playing Curry and while we're asking the the chat, hold on, we had the poll result.

We asked the chat, do you respect McCann's team change? 74% said no. But what's the other one? And then we had Rashad give a fuck. It was like 68% said no. 32% still said no. No, not Embiid and Tatum. Curry and Tatum. Curry and Tatum.

That wouldn't have been up before you said that. We put that up right before you said that. All right, we work harder out here. We try to keep up. Oh, but the chat said others, 44%. So we just take that as Curry? Yeah. Okay.

Or Curry and Airman can split that up. But you think what Curry's doing now is better than what Tatum's doing? Could be. We have a better team. Because we're doing it with less. We have a better team. We value winning. Oh a better team we value winning oh y'all value winning

you put Tatum over KD right now I do over KD right now on the record I've already said it if I'm making a draft

right now if I got a draft KD so you think KD's better wait wait wait one season draft if we have a draft

right now one season draft like where you at you're 17 KD yeah right. One season draft, brother. Like, where you at? Year 17, KD? Yeah, right now. Over Tatum? Damn, that's... I'm going with Tatum.

100% bro. You know how I feel about Boston. I got to shake my head today. Well, okay. Shake your head. Shake that head. Yeah, that's tough. But I love KD though.

I love KD. I do too, but I got to go with Tatum. Year 17, that's like... We're taking it for one year? Tatum a monster out there, bro. Yeah, he a monster. Let's take off. Let's take cuz you know, Katie don't have his two best players let's take off Brown and Why do we have to drink off cuz them niggas ain't got they shit together so I mean so get just know it's not Indict me Katie balling still and he's still balling

But if you put it if you put his attributes up there where you can't double them, it becomes better. Jason Tatum has gotten better every single year, bro. Yeah. And he has maximized his performances regardless. I don't think KD's going to be their leading scorer when we come back. Book's their leading scorer. Oh, facts. That's why I would give a slight nudge to Tatum right now.

But younger KD. Younger KD is not even a conversation. If we put KD on Boston right now with that lineup? I don't know. In place of Tatum, put Tatum on the Suns? Mm-hmm. Where he probably... Nah, it's not going to be the same because it's an older KD.

It don't matter. It does. It does. You get Bucky, you can't jump on him. He's not moving the same way. He's going to still give you 28. Y'all making it seem like Tatum is going to the basket right now. He is going to the basket.

He just sold the whole foot. And two-hand that thing, boy. He doing all kinds of shit out there. Woo! Look at that. That's the lead. That's the lead. Right here. Come on, dunk on him.

Come on, man. I got so Katie dunked. Get off me. He. Pick up. Come on, dunk on him. Come on, man. I got your soul, KD, dunk. Get off me. He said, woo. Now, I got Tater, man. That's why I want him at there, that big line up. Baby.

He is, but- I mean, it looked like that. He's just too small, man. It looked like he was doing a good job. Too small. Little babies out there. James Dolan, sell the Knicks so we can get a sound effect. Mm-hmm. Wow.

Is that the Yankees or that's Burke? That's just a, what does it mean? Like, I'm here, I'm here. Nose. Huh? OK. Who's those players on the Knicks bench? Do we have sound effects?

Who's the players on the Knicks bench? Looks like the 2K when you play 11 seasons and you don't know who on your team no more. No, no, no. And they just keep putting random niggas on your team. They don't even know their names and shit. No, they're that putting random niggas on your team. You don't even know their names This is no dead ass like, you know, like the real players for the Knicks don't even go to them Oh, so those are the stand-ins feelings. I didn't just

We got to go to the East Coast No Wow in in a game where they don't do that like I love the Knicks fans Okay, that's fan good job. When it comes to just for sure Do what I'm saying is my face is basketball fans. Oh, yeah the best they're the best. Yeah as fans Now give it to Nick fans the beat of the beat a fan of the team that's there, it becomes a little difficult. Because what happens is, as an opponent, I have the same benefit as a Knicks player. Right.

Because if I'm playing well, the fan base is going to cheer me. They just want great sport. Right. If it was up to the Knicks, they'd rather have a good game. You score 50, you score 50. It's 100 to 100 and then we win at the end so we can feel good about ourselves.

They would be happy with just watching two people score 50. They're just fans. It just happened to be that if the basketball ain't playing well, they're going gonna boo the people that's playing bad. And that's usually sorry ass nicks. What you got for us,

Paolo? Trash. So that's what I said. It's like, you want to play in the garden. If you're a hooper, you want to play in the garden. But you want to play in the garden as an opponent because you know the love that you're going to get when you get heated up. Absolutely.

So you love Knicks fans, huh? So you actually love Knicks fans. My garden was the Bulls. We had a breakthrough. They play that. That's why I was excited. Look, the garden had the work in there. And look, if you was playing well,

and the work is watching you, stay after the game. To take pictures and shit. That was him winking at me. I won my first award in Madison Square. With college. Who did y'all play in college? Coach Lawrence Cancer?

Yeah, we played Kentucky in the championship. And they chained MVP. Oh, was this preseason? Like, who the fuck are you? We ain't in Arizona. We ain't in Arizona and they chained MVP and I won MVP.

It was fun. We just sucked. High school, man. My favorite even was when I was in Chicago. McDonald's All-American. Was out there? McDonald's was there.

All of that. Then we played, like he said, all the college preseason joints. We got the preseason in our team. All that shit. So if you play well, then they become familiar with you when you come back. It was like, oh shit, he used

to get buckets. Then you get buckets from Mo. It's like you said, a fan favorite. You become like, oh okay, we know he's going to be there. They never forget you. But that's what I said. It's like if I'm the owner, I'm building a team that the city sees like I want I excited I want I want a superstar

Like New York has never had a superstar When I say superstar, I mean superstar mellow bigger than a Mellow when mellow got there and I'm forgetting about when Melo got there. But that type of, like something that the city just says, these grinded out players, that 80s, early 90s, let that shit go, y'all. They took on it. They loved it back then, but it's over with.

It's over with. It was cool. What about Rocky Marciano? Like you need a Ja Morant. So the city came like yo We made somebody where when he walks the city just that was mellow Yeah, like you need you need a team you you need you need to go to the state warriors That type of team a team that's gonna be putting up goddamn 120 where y'all can sit there and just sit there like oh, yeah

This is what yeah, New York basketball like you have to have the team that that fucking fits your personality Absolutely, but exciting brand of walking and you know you Y'all ain't no slow bop walking around Y'all need a team that really matches the the energy of the city. I got three left-handed players. They all go left. All go left. They been around in circles, man. Y'all pack it off the ball, bro. Rashad, we have to mention that you had one of your best games as a pro, Madison Square Garden. 23 points off the bench, 8 for 12 from the field, 7 for 9 from three, 21 minutes.

Work. Work. Absolutely. You did work on the court. The work after the game, wanting to take photos. I was about to just drop a name, I ain't want to drop that name boy It was like mercy. It was a masculine after that game bro. So Mac you're the oh man top tier Yeah, she on podcasts and shit too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Highlight after.

New York? No, I'm close. I was close. I was so close. The one that goes above her. Yeah. The lights game? You don't remember? You gotta have Black Man's Magazine.

He know. He know. Hey, you know, not gonna lie, before, just so people out there, just to know how thirsty we was back then, right? We'll get Black Man's Magazine and all those magazines, King, and we'll go to the pictures and look for the contact number. Contact us. 100%. What you mean?

You sit there, contact, you be on the plane, hey, so can you tell her this person's looking for me? Seriously? You swear to God. Oh, it was better than that. It got way better. That was the one. That was how you find them.

But this is the different one. I learned this part. Like, okay, book them. Yep. Book them. But then you got the booking ticket. Book them. Book them. But this is the different one. I learned this part. Like, okay, book them. Book them. But you got the booking ticket. Book them. You book them, put them up in the room, and you throw a party

for them, and it's hosted by them. You sitting with me. Couple drinks. Let's go. Couple drinks. What's up? Yeah, it's me. It's me, yeah. Coming to the game. Before the internet, man. That magazine got the booking information in it, man. We're going to email. Double drain what's up? Yes me? Booking information in it man. We go email this booker. Okay, that's Wow

You gotta have an excellent manager book Welcome in welcome Welcome welcome We asked the chat who's better right now KD or Tatum and it's literally split 50-50 I like that Down the middle down the middle Shout-out to the Knicks don't let the other team. I don't even like them not on solid team Just get get someone who's younger smarter and understands hoop and what the city needs, but he looks like will do it Get rid of your friends.

Get rid of your friends making decisions. Because at the end of the day, like, Knicks has never been, they weren't Clippers, right? They wasn't cheap. They spent money. They're just spending money on the wrong players. That's all that was. It's not like they, you know, they're spending money on names, not,

and it's not even names. You, you spending numbers. Like, you got, there has to be somebody that,

that understands superstardom, what it looks like, how it walks, how it talks. Tier A, tier B. Yes. But they tried,

though, if you think about it, they had Steve, Jamal, all them niggas on one staff. Mulberry, Jalen Rose on that team.

Marcus Kennedy. That didn't fit. Yeah, but they were trying to bring stars to the city. That's why they spending money. They ain't spending money on what you really need to put the... To have a cohesive unit out there. Yeah, for sure. So we got Wimby versus Chet tonight.

Very first meeting as NBA basketball players in the now coveted in season tournament That yet to have a good name. Do you know what it is the in season tournament? I still don't really get I know what they tried to do. They try and be like the overseas how they had those cups You know mean but I Mean they need to let fans have flares. It don't even matter. Just go win the game to me. That's the point. I mean, at the end of the day, just go win the game. It don't matter what it is.

When Bones Highlands got interviewed, he was like, I honestly don't know what the fuck. But Northside's like, my nigga, does it matter? Go win the game. If you win it, you get 500K. Win what? I'm saying that's to win the game. But it's just another game, really. They changed the floor up, but... if you win that tournament you get extra

$500,000 in your pocket with that motivate and excite you to play a little bit harder than you may Traditionally during the early part of the NBA does it hit that day if we have a chance to hit that day We make it to where we bought the we get to that point where we're gonna win for this play for the championship thing Yeah, but even so I'm not gonna be mad mad if we don't make it to the championship. I think, wait, what is the... Because no matter what, we still got to... That's just a day off. Hello?

Woo! So you want that 500 or you want a day off, Gil? No, what I'm saying is these games right now that's going on, are they taking it harder than they would if it was just a regular game? If I'm playing against Jason Tatum tonight, if it's a play-in game or not, I'm still playing against fucking Jason Tatum. Yeah. I think that's what it is.

Right? I'm still trying to win, so it really don't matter. This should have been something that was really thought about, and it should have been versus Coast, not just part of your schedule. I know what they're doing, though, because I need our viewers to be up during this time. This is heavy football time right now. So this kind of keeps our viewership up until, you know, because... You know, Roger Goodell's

plotting. I don't like that shit one bit. But check their temperature, though. If you think about it, we all go to the crib for a 2K tournament, right? But before you get on the sticks and play pool, if everyone likes to play and wants to win in pool, before we play 2K, we're going to try to win in the pool game.

Or we're playing dice over here, I'm trying to win at all three. When I lead a crib, I'm texting the group chat like, yeah, better luck next time. So I don't understand how in the NCAA tournament, how everybody's not with the same energy. Like, it don't matter who we going up against, I'm winning. Nobody knows what's going on. It don't matter about winning. We're just playing a game, and then it's like, the only thing we know is, oh, the floor's changed.

Yeah, they're playing games on a funny floor. That's all it is. It's their normal schedule. No, but something's at stake. Something's at the championship at stake. Our season's on stake, too. And you get a bid for the for the playoffs No, you know, you don't know if now

If you need it then it would be different they need it the winners Didn't would be so think about it. You got a bag. You got something in your back. There was if that was in play That's not part of it. But you get the 500 if you win it. We just said that. We just think of it. Oh, I thought that was a part of it. No, it's not. No, that's how you said it. It should have been thought through. They should have made that a part of it. Oh, that would have been way different.

It would guarantee you a bit. No, that's what I'm saying. That's what I said. If it was something in state that has to do with the team itself. So there is just 500,000 in the middle of the season. This should have been something that has nothing to do with the regular season. Right. Like in-season tournament before the season started,

like a little tournament here, or You said not against your record type shit? Yeah, like it's something that happens, but you're telling me I can look at my schedule and then alright, and then now as soon as the schedule come out, now you're in season, now you just highlighted these certain games.

To be, to be. That's crazy. Okay, yeah. That's different. I'm going to go and win the big trophy. Viewership is up. They built some excitement. To your point, they're competing with the NFL now. They're trying to make it fun. I don't really see the difference.

Has anybody watched NC's game? I haven't watched one. Yes. Yes. They own it again. They own the game. The game's its own. It's the game.

It's on. I'm thinking it's just a regular game. Yeah, because you're just watching the game. Just watching the game. Is this game, Winby versus Chet, is it more important than if it was in-season or regular for the first time? They do it on a cool-looking court. It's the same.

I think it's the same. It's Winby versus Chet. It's the same fucking game. Nothing changes. Nothing changes. But the league is smart enough to know we'll put some of these marquee matchups in these situations. They're going to your players

They're taking matchup games that will be popular anyway and calling it in season if you want somebody though if I'm gonna naturally automatically watch this game Then what the fuck are you putting so much emphasis put the emphasis on a game that we not gonna watch they say oh this game is more important but now the whole shit that's now let's watch this game because we weren't naturally gonna watch it but would you give a shit either way which one about watching the game you didn't care about why like it never land oh man Lando versus Houston in Lando versus a game though. What I'm saying is Orlando versus,

and we wasn't going to watch this game. Now this is a special game because it means something. It makes you watch it. Because these, you know what I mean? I see it.

That's fair. All right, but let's get through these. Chet, Wimby, higher or lower. As you all know, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy.

Download the app. Use promo code GILL. They will match your first deposit up to $100 So we'll start with Wimby first. I'm a read you awesome props. You tell me higher or lower Will win be make two point oh three pointers higher or lower? Higher Lower

Against Chet and then we're on Lord. He gonna shoot that thing. I don't like when it's point Oh, too though cuz it's like if it's point what it's 2.0 2.0. So if he makes two you just it's just a push He got to make three. Yeah, that's what say you gotta make three to win or just wonder. I'm not rolling I'm saying low. All right lower we talked about personal fouls will win be have 3.5 personal fouls higher. You have four fouls Yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. It's hard watching the game. I want to do the foul Yeah, where they playing that where they playing that? Where is that game it? If it's shade shade shade gonna go at him cool Apple or miles Applebee's

So lay Applebee's hard watching the game I don't like doing those was over I don't want to sit here and wait for dudes to foul. Shit gets annoying. He reckless with the fouling. Then they get the fourth foul. Then they challenge it. They overturn it. It's not a foul. It's just like...

Yeah. Y'all play with my emotions. All right, for Chet. 3.0 blocks and steals combined, higher or lower? For who? Chet. Higher. Lower.

Lower. Lower. Lower. He's hit or miss with the blocks. Between two steals and two blocks? So if he gets... He needs 3.0. Lower. Lower. He's hit or miss with the block. Between two steals and two blocks? So if he gets, he needs 3.0 block steals combined, so if he gets three blocks, one steal, if he gets four steals.

Oh, so he needs four or something? Just some combo of three, 3.0 blocks of steals. He gonna get two blocks for sure. I don't think I'm gonna get no steals, so he basically gotta have four blocks. Gotta have four blocks. Yeah. No two steals? Yeah, I don't think so. He got a four to have four bucks. Yeah He ain't playing against a team that don't turn the ball over they turn the ball over Yeah, but not not not not going downhill right there. They don't attack the rim either. Yeah. All right last one

Chet seven point five rebounds higher or lower It's the point which one higher Those gotta get a rebound who check they play with my emotions or low I'm going higher because if he's garden if he's guarding Wimby Wimby's on the outside for the most we don't know three bounce So he's not gonna be in position to get rebounds anyway I think he's a come back in there and get it go back in I don't know how much they'll actually guard each other I'm sure Adam Silver's made the call we need to see it a little bit

Hey, hey, I know one I'm taking Hallen Burton Lord 2.5 on the turnovers. You're taking lower. Yeah, I don't think he's gonna have two turnovers Okay, I like Zach Collins though Zach Collins will come in there and get you some some easy Easy. All right. Well now let's move on to the last segment of the show, Mostly Fans, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Oh, damn, we got a little phone call thing in there, too. Hey, y'all. Hey. Hey, girl. Hey, girl.

Hey, y'all see me whoop that female? Yeah, them chicks. I didn't like where that was going, Gil. Don't win. I didn't like where... Finish the sentence. I didn't like where that was going, Gil. Can you please finish that sentence so we don't get packed up? Oh

Okay, y'all see that us men still holding her down in tennis So you really that woman in a tennis match? Okay. Oh, I didn't even think about that Yeah, be mad Don't be at here beating ass now. I forgot. Okay, now I get it. Relax. I won and kicked it.

So I'm one coach to that 9-11 is all I'm saying. Okay. I didn't even think about it yet. You right. Underdog was on the phone like, hold up. No cancel culture now. We thought I was a football player out there just whooping on them. I get it.

I get it. I understand. Allegedly. My bad. All right. My bad. I'm thinking about the 9-11. That's it. That's it. In a tennis match, there was a whooping involved with tennis.

Okay. In an official sport. This first question comes from underdog username Datafloss. He said, who is your leader for the MVP race as of now? Yeah, so, it's tough. Do they even have it out there right now? They got the Kia sponsors, so they got the MVP ladder going. It's got to be, what, Tatum and Embiid.

Luka, Tatum, Embiid. The usual suspects. Oh, shit, Jokic. Yeah. Jokic and Steph. That's them three. Joker, Steph, and Luka. Yeah, those three.. Yeah. Jokic and Steph? That's them three. Joker, Steph, and Luka. Yeah, those three.

For sure. All right. Good question. Give him his 50. All right. No. No, 25. Right, that wasn't a good one. We'll let you determine.

That was me. Man, get up there. You didn't take no money. It was me. It was 25. Man, but that's 10 games in. It's me. Ask it. Next question is from Underdog user AvoTheBoy08. It was mid. It was mid. It was mid. It was mid. It was mid.

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It was mid. It was mid. It was mid. It was mid. It was mid. It was mid. It was mid. It was mid. What is the team? What other team? Yeah, what is the other team? I'm saying, what team should go for him? Oh, for him. For him? Go for him. Who wants Zach Levine? Lakers.

Don't say that. I like Miami. Lakers. No. I like Miami. Miami. For Hero and who? I don't know.

As long as you keep Bam and Jimmy. We're not doing Lakers, bro. AR. AR. My team doing well. D'Lo and AR. No, we're not taking them. I'm cool with that.

D'Lo and AR can go. I'm fucking out of here. I'm fucking out of here. Lemon Daddy. You great goal. Insurance company man. All right, let me throw this out. I wanted that last summer.

D'Lo, AR. No, I said no. I'm talking. It's last summer. D-Lo AR. No, I said no. D-Lo AR can go. The Lemon Daddy can go. Ice Veins is doing his thing. He's not doing what Zach is going to be doing. He's doing his thing right now.

Ask me in another month. Right now, I'm good with my team. We good. Why y'all turn on Lemon Daddy We good limit. We sell a lemon daddy a short linen. I don't like the lemon daddy billboard. No we Lemon Dave Vincent can play the point get rid of D. Lo get his ass out No gave this again get the fuck Gabe Vincent can play the point, get rid of D-Lo, get his ass out of there. I thought we heard Gabe. Gabe is on the court. No, Gabe Vincent can go.

Gabe can get the fuck out of here. No, no, no. He's Gabe. He's Gabe. No, Gabe Vincent can go. I didn't even realize he was on our team. He ain't got no trade value. Hey, D-Lo.

Well, hell no. Send his ass to the G. D-Lo and that motherfucker ice tray in it. All right. Water. For now. That's all. For now, we good.

We good. D-Lo. You heard his name, D-Lo. You said D-Lo. When I say D'Angelo Russell, you know I'm upset. That means time to go? Yeah. Right now, D-Lo is doing what D-Lo need to do.

Well, Lakers have a huge marquee matchup against the Grizzlies tonight. Smack, daddy. Smack it. Smack. Against the Clipper-thwarting Memphis Grizzlies. We got 15 more games for John. John looking at these niggas like, ugh. Marky Mac against the Clipper thwarting Memphis Grizzlies. We got 15 more games for Ja. Ja looking at these niggas like, ugh.

Y'all niggas is playing with my time. They looking at him. They mad at him. I know. They looking at him with disgust. We went from being a top tier. It was a lighter. They looking at him like, God, can you hurry up? Hurry up.

Can you hurry up? Back, please. They mad at him, too. Like, dang, we don't have to go through this. We wouldn't have to go through this. They looking at him like, we in last place just because of that. Man, listen, we wouldn't have to go through this. We wouldn't have to go through this. They was like, we in last place just because of that. Man, listen, they better roll up. Hey, y'all should have thought y'all was better without me.

Uh-huh. Y'all over here. Hey, y'all should have fought them 25 games. Y'all mad about the- And y'all fought them 25 games. They mad about the Thule. Uh-huh. Y'all should have fought them 25-

You mad about the Thule? Y'all listen. Y'all know, when a star player goes out and y'all win without him, the arrogance of Memphis like, yeah, you 25 games? Oh, yeah, we're a big. Not now. Call my phone. They better roll out the red carpet for my boy, John. Red carpet. All he had to do was do what he was supposed to do. A billy club, some brass right, so you didn't have to read car after you already been warned Back the red carpet for him when he come out man mistake Let's get him a holster season because it'll get him a holster. Yeah my bodyguard would

Get a bodyguard get a man the 40 million you took from him. Hey, you wait. You know what? If I'm here, I think my hamstring hurt. I think my hamstring hurt when it came to the box office. I think everything hurt. Y'all better. This your man.

He's crazy. You're not going to say nothing to your man. He said, I'm going to pull the heavy. All I'm saying is this. 25 games, Grizzlies, I can't make the all-NBA team. 20 games? 20 games? I'll make it.

I think y'all as an organization should be arguing that I come back a little faster than I'm supposed to. Because that's a league. So I can come on and be Superman. Y'all want Superman, huh? Because right now, y'all going to get 20. He's got two more years to get that supposed to. Because that's a league. So I can come on and be Superman. Y'all want Superman, huh? Because right now, y'all going to get torched. He got two more years to get that, though. But that's a league. Because I ain't going front.

That's a league fine, though, right? That's a league fine. That excitement has been trashed. 25 is from the league. That excitement has been trashed since Ja's not there. Well, if I'm Ja, I'm feeling it. It's kind of like, you know, I'm waiting on the... When he come back, I'm waiting on the, you know...

Don't be on... Listen, Ja, do not be on no humbles shit on their court Yeah, I won't shoot listen when a man put his elbows on the backboard. He in a whole nother category I'm good fuck what you try to do that block My son them shoes every time they drop okay okay? Elbows on the backboard. You can do whatever the fuck you want to do on them. Must be the shoes. Must be the shoes. Must be the shoes.

Must be the 12s. I want to be like Ja. Yeah. All of them, yeah. You can't say pow. I can tell you. You can't say pow in the same sentence. You say pow.

God damn, dude. In AAU right now, there's only two players they want to be. Curry and John. Yep. That's it. Yep. That's a fact. Our last underdog question is a video from user ish24.

Let's roll that video, please. What up, fellas? So my question to you guys is, as all you guys are former NBA players, how much does coaching necessarily matter in the NBA? And if it does, how much of a worry is that for Milwaukee, being that every single playoff series, they might arguably have the worst coach of the two teams? That sounded like a sneak diss.

It's 24. Now you have to think about it before you think about it. That's a good question. Think about it first. That's a good question. Hey, B, you ain't like that sneak diss. It's 24. Now you have to think about no, think about it before you think about it. That's a good question. Think about it first. That's a good question. You ain't like that with that last one. Think about it first.

Is he telling the truth though? They just won a championship in 2021. No, he said coach. Now he said as Okay, and we just got a new coach. He was on that coaching staff too. But he's saying as a coach,

you know, you're going into the playoffs and he's going to be the weakest out of the two coaches. So he's saying if coaching really matters, does it hurt the Bucks? Because they got good players. No, but you can't just put that on him like that. You just can't put that on him. You're throwing that in the atmosphere, in the universe. Just because he's a new coach don't mean he's going to be worse than me.

Adrian Griffin like that? Hold on. Okay, when it comes to coaching, your greatness is on how you manage egos, timeouts, lineups, practice. You know, your job is done in that practice.

On the court, on the court, it's the players themselves, right? And you will hope that you did such a great job that they can go out there

and just execute, right? So you can tell how great a coach is by how they're on the sideline, right? If they sitting there, like if a coach is like, even when Curry didn't shoot that shot and Clay shot it, right?

Most coaches, 90% of coaches would have called timeout. You know, you know, Curry's just go. Right? That's where your coaching ability kicks in. Like how much do you trust your own teaching from practice? And that's how I judge it. Like, how, like, do you trust me? Do you trust what the fuck we went over?

If not, call a timeout then. Bitch ass nigga. I think it doesn't matter what type of team you have. If you have a veteran type of team, like Milwaukee has, you got a megastar, arguably one of the best

players in the world on your team, you can take a step back sometime and not have to do too much. Because part of being a good coach is knowing when to do too much and when not to do too much. And so I think it's just a matter of what team you got. If you got a young team, you probably need to coach a little bit more. Do you think that's a... Is he like Darvin Ham right now?

Like last year, right? Like you have such a veteran team that you want to... Like I trust you guys, but then you start losing and the media wants you to coach. And you're like, uh... Now I got to sit there

and pretend that I'm doing some shit. Like, you know, coach right now. You're talking about Griffin, right? Griffin, like, you have two great players. You have a great team. Managing the role players. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Managing the role players, making sure your lineups is right, making sure the game is easier for them. Your ATO game got to be sharp. You know, like, game situations, knowing the flow of the game. Like you said, knowing do I need to take a timeout or, like, let them play through it. Early in the season, sometimes you need to let Dame and Giannis, don't call a timeout, let them out. Let them try to figure it out early in the season.

So I think that balance is how I judge a coach. Like a Spoh, for example. Spoh had a really talented team, but it's not easy to manage that. And so we lost some games we probably shouldn't have lost, but you lose the battle to to win the war and as you can see he won the War he's all-timer. So I just think it's a matter of you know, how you manage You know your talent if you have talent and how you manage a less talented team like doc is pretty good with less talent Yeah, yes doc is really good with less talent. I think it's two different things. I think it's preparation and execution. You mentioned execution. Preparation is preparing your team to fucking execute. And when you execute, you can now give the team and the players the freedom to be basketball players.

Because there's going to be points in the game where I just, as a coach, I want you to be a basketball player. Don't ask me what I'm supposed to do here. Execute the play if we run it. Execute it down to all the options that we need. After that, y'all play ball. Play because we're grown. Yeah, we grown. I don't need you like, oh, he didn't pass.

He didn't swing, swing. He playing ball. He seen something you didn't see. Now, the one thing that a coach is going to have to really cipher through is who's being selfish and who's not. And those are the guys who don't want to make the extra pass guys who don't want to you know Make the extra effort on defense the little things that can drive you crazy as a teammate That you know you supposed to be in this spot and you're not and you're not in that spot cuz you leaking out because you

Want the easy bucket right so yeah, just selfish it but when it comes to like Coaches mattering, they definitely matter for preparation and execution. Everything else is up for the players. Players got to do their job. And how well they coach stars. Some coaches are non-confrontational. Some coaches have some backbone.

I think I respect coaches that have a backbone that challenge their stars. Because that's where it all started at. You hold them accountable, then everybody else got to fall in line. Yep. And so some coaches, you know, they ain't built like that. They let their stars do whatever

and then hold the guy who's only going to play five minutes to some crazy standard. It's like, to me, that's crazy. Yeah. Playing five minutes, bro. We'll go back to the Bucs and their situation.

We mentioned the defensive thing you guys put in the chat with Dame and Drew. Remember we mentioned talking about that difference when they made that trade. Is the accountability now with the struggles of them happening on the

defensive side? Are they struggling defensively? They're almost last in the league. It's new chemistry. That's what I was going to league. It's new chemistry. It's new chemistry. It's not new chemistry. You got one new player and you got one new coach. Dame is totally different offensively.

Dame is an all NBA. We don't need an adjustment for him. Damian Lillard don't need an adjustment. He's going to be him. The style of play is different than Drew. It's much different than Drew. But he's not fitting in to play that style.

He playing his style. That was a conversation we had. It's like, Dame not going to come in and try to play defense like Drew. He going to come and be Dame. So I'm like, how are we going to make up for this defensive lapse? But you're missing a point. I'm trading this defense in for offense because offensively we suck how

Because that's what number two and it was number two in the league They have a drew average 17 point shot like 17% like I want the guy who's averaging 34 He's doubling the production, but do you see what's happening now? Right right now though, but I mean right now that was What happened to the team that Drew went to? What's happening to the team that Drew went to? I think it was a good fit for Drew to go to Boston, but

give Dane some time. I'm not saying we're not going to give him time. He's going to have time, but I'm just saying right now I didn't lose one defensive player. I lost two defensive people. I lost two defensive players. Grayson. player, I lost two defensive people. I lost two defensive players. Grayson. Yes, I lost him also.

So when you look at the Bucs, I had my point guard play defense, my shooting guard play defense, Middleton play defense, my four plays defense, my five plays defense. So all five starters actually knew how to contain, right? Which makes it easier to have three defensive players on the same one team. With Bud as your coach. As Bud as your coach. Now we got a new coach.

Now we got a new coach. Y'all telling me that Pat Connaughton was going to hit this three in the corner, right? And now Pat and Grayson to me are interchangeable. They're no difference in the two players. So if you're going to bring Pat in in you don't lose nothing in Grayson So you got Dame in and you got Drew's what we're gonna do on this How we gonna X this out and if you're if you're now last in defense and then that was the question coming in but then you have to then then if I'm if I'm if I'm a coach then

I'm gonna challenge the other players then and what way We're last in defense. You was on second team all defense. You was arguing, Giannis, that you were the best defensive player. You should have been on the team. So you was first team, you second team, Middleton, you played defense. How the fuck are we last because of one player? I don't think it's a blame game.

No, but what I'm saying is, how are we last if arguably when it comes to this sheet right here, five and five, I arguably have two of the best, two out of... Two of the best defenders. Two of the best defenders. Lopez, you are on second team.

Where the fuck is that second team today? Giannis, you complain not being on first or second team. Where is that defense today? You should be so mad that you should be goaltending every shot. Where is it? He's known for not playing defense. Y'all are known for. So just you two alone, we should be in the top fucking 15.

So that means y'all are not doing something. The argument you made, though, that was the argument you made. He was like, look, you got Yonah's back here to help Dame So Dame can let niggas, you know, you got defense behind you now So that is a it's a credible point where you like they got to step it up so that he can not look like he's Not playing defense what the percentage so where that's why I said the defensive metrics has never been right And when Dame's offense when they get their chemistry his great offense great offense is going to be their defense. When him and Giannis start to click, that's going to be their defense.

When they making shots, it's hard to play against a five-on-five set defense. Just like Memphis struggling defensively when you have two defensive players of the years on the same team. Ain't got a job making plays. You got your guard, so that means you have an

elite defensive guard and a elite backhand, but y'all are goddamn same with them. Why? Because their offense is no good. Yeah.

Well, we could talk plenty more bucks. Hopefully they get that thing going in the right direction so we can get the plugs for the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Keep talking.

Y'all won't be going to 4-1-4 at all. We with you. You will not be at 5-4. Keep talking. Y'all won't be going to the 4-1-4 at all. That's the heat

of that goddamn question. Down to fucking days, man. Yeah, keep talking. Y'all won't be going to 414 at all. We with you. You will not be at 514. We with you. Keep talking. Y'all won't be going to the 414 at all. That's the heat of that goddamn question. Down to fucking days, man. Keep talking. Y'all won't be going to 414 at all. Come on. They treat you very nicely.

Is that a club? It's a city. I don't think nobody wants to go there. The ill mill. The ill mill. All right. All right. I thought you was referring to 4-1.

Brandon, we good. We good. The 4-1 out of the first round? That's what you were referring to? Okay, we'll see. 4-1? Oh, yeah, I got 4-1. What do you mean, 4-1 out of the first round, that's what you're referring to? Okay, we'll see. 4-1? Oh, yeah, I got 4-1. What do you mean, 4-1?

He switched teams, though. Bro, like, Giannis was hurt. He wouldn't even play in a switch team. What are you talking about? Norris, we appreciate you pulling up this week. You're going to do that? Giannis wouldn't even play. That's what you're going to do?

Yeah. You're going to do that? He switched teams. You're going to do that? I got to. Norris, we appreciate you pulling up this week. Hope to have you back on the show soon, man. Really appreciate your perspective, everything like that.

And I need my T-shirt, so I seen it. I got the notification on email that it's coming. I'm going to rock it on the show soon. Yes, sir. Gil, appreciate you as always. Underdog Fantasy, we appreciate y'all as well. All right. We will see y'all on Wednesday.

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