Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Talks 76ers Future and The NBA Hall Of Fame

Episode Date: August 16, 2023

Gil's Arena Talks The Philadelphia 76ers Future following the James Harden Trade Request and what it means for NBA MVP Joel Embiid. They also dive into The NBA Hall Of Fame and what the recent inductions of Dwayne Wade, Dirk Nowitzki and Tony Parker means for the game. Please Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Gil Gil Gil Gil Gil Gil Gil Gil Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.

Whoa, whoa! We a little lighter today. We a lot lighter. Party is taking days off and shit. Designated off days. Hump day hiatuses. Crazy. What the fuck going on?

We only got about 12, 15 in here. The boss is gone. The boss came. The boss came. Everybody came to work and shit yesterday. Suit and tie. They may see you in the office in two weeks. What you doing here?

Not eating all the food before the show like they normally do, saving all the good shit. But this is the game. So welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy, as always. Joined by the legend, Gilbert Arena. What up? Rocking the red. I don't know, Gil. Red Friday.

I don't know. You switch up, don't you? No, no. Someone said I look sexy in red on Thursdays. Was it Wednesday? It was Wednesday. Oh, it was Wednesday? Yeah.

You fucked up the color code. Oh, shit. Because we did the show Monday. Yep, yep. I've been working. I have been podcasting. He's fucking up in the back. I said Friday first.

Working with the work. We don't say working with the work. We got Rashad McKenzie back with us. Y'all know what we do. Brandon is on a plane right now doing something special that you know He teased it in a tweet. We're gonna have a cracker for y'all next week. Mmm. If it works out, we don't give funny style Mmm, but if it do it'll be momentous for gills arena. So that's all I could tell y'all Legally obligated not to say anything else legally obligated so far though. We three for three. Yeah three for three so far

I think we fucked the best. We ain't messing. So here's what's cracking today. Mamba Brand is making a comeback, but we're going to look back at one of the greatest moments in Kobe's career. Nate Smith Hall of Fame inducted his latest class of legendary hoopers this weekend, but who got next? And Harden is applying the pressure on the Sixers,

but what effect will this have on Embiid and his future with the team? He took that processing out of his bio. He processed some other... He's trying to go vegan. He can't do it, man. He's trying to go organic. He's trying to go organic. No processed meat no more.

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Hopefully we can actually turn a profit on the show and maybe make some money. Hey, podcast is audio? Yeah, so I think podcast is audio only. Yeah, podcast is audio. Yeah, so I think podcast audio only Yeah, I'm around. Yeah, so we don't do that. We're gonna be sitting in the little rooms and with the microphone You know not when I first started and he was talking about it podcast. I said, what is it? It was like, yeah, you know, we just speak I said, where's the camera cuz I know camera

That's ugly people shit. That's like radio. I'm good. And you got to let them know, like, y'all really got to fuck with us on the underdog shit because you can win some easy money, man. I just think you'll be winning easy bread. Once he starts sending the pics, stop being selfish. I just go WNBA man. I just go under. It might be sexist.

It might be sexist But I'm winning. I don't care what nobody's you lying though. You go higher or Asia. I go high on Asia Kelsey sometimes to Kelsey plums with the aces period just the aces they just like every plum Brianna free throws like what? She is I think she goes to the bass and so she get out again. You found time good They do like Kelsey Plum three free throws. Like, what? She goes to the basket, so she gets out again and gets a foul twice. I'm good. That's easy. See, I like the ones that you can get in the first quarter.

You know what I mean? I don't want to watch the whole game. I don't want to wait. It's like, yo, higher, lower, three free throws. You can get that. Yeah, they took that until Lexi Brown used to kill them. Oh, yeah. There's never Lexi Brown no more.

It was like Lexi Brown, one and a half threes. Like, oh, over. She going to get that. Over. It was Vander Sloot and Inescu, I think, Tuesday, where it was like, there was too many assists between the two. There was too many assists. So I knew one was going.

Well, she had 10. Yeah, Vander Sloot came through it. Yeah, she had 11. Came through it, got it. So we got our first question. Our first bag offering comes from the underdog username DTom5. He said, how should you or should you push kids into becoming great in sports? One, they have to already love the sport or have an interest in it. And it's one of those things where I'm not going to push you.

Once you accept the challenge, I'm not going to let you fail. So I'm going to make sure you don't fail. Once you accept the challenge, I'm not going to force you to do nothing. But once you say, this is what I want to do, then I'm not going to let you fail. I'm not going to give you a chance to fail. I think the best way possible is to show kids other examples of greatness. Like when we was coming up, Michael Jordan had Michael Jordan's playground, come fly with me, watching footage of other players, how they train and all that kind of stuff. Like that's an influence that you don't have to as a parent or anything else, like push them to do anything. You show them, you say, look, that's how they got there.

Michael Jordan, eighth grade got cut. Then he went and worked hard to get to the next level. So for me, that was an example. I didn't need my dad to push me or my mom to say anything. It was like, I'm already like, I want to be like Mike. So I'm trying to do whatever it was he was doing to get to that level. So it alleviates the pressure from the parent when the kid, like you said, he wants to do it. Like if you want to get better, you'll show them a move, right? And if they don't practice that move when they're not around you, they don't really want to get better.

And you have to continue to show that move over and over again. It's a waste of your time because the kid just kind of like, he's not locked in. But for me personally, I was always like, I was a sponge. I'm like, show me something else. Show me something else.

I'm practicing that shit. So my older son, he started hooping when he was five. He played on the team. He scored two buckets the whole season. And me and my wife were like, yo, he might not want to do it. But he loves the crowd, right? He loves the clapping and the cheers. He knew he was going to get the most of that when he got buckets.

So we locked in this past spring, summer. He was doing like 400 makes four times a week as a six-year-old, but going. As a six-year-old? It wasn't like I was forcing him to. We would just go out for 45 to an hour. So he ended up dropping like 40 buckets in eight games this year, but just killing, you know, like put up like 12 or 13. That's fire.

Like 20 minutes, like a 40-minute running clock, so he's playing 20. But to that same point, like, yo, I'm not going to make you do shit. You don't want to do it, we don't got to do it. But if we're going to do it, we got to do it correctly. But to answer that question, man, you can't, you know, because they're going to end up resenting you later on in life if you try to push them too hard so just pace it but also now once they want to commit to doing it like you and your son up like five five thirty yeah yeah what's so funny is i have a video i just sent it to the chat i don't know

if y'all can load it on that fast um i guess my uh page uh page buckner interviewed my daughter okay and it just went across my timeline Okay, and what was she saying in there like my dad works me out, and if I get one room one wrong move He's killing me killing me because I you know in practice. It's it's perfection Yeah, like and you don't have to be perfect in the game. Yeah, because you can't stop but in practice I want perfection, right? Because that's what it's for. I don't want every move perfect. I want every drill perfect because we can stop and make it perfect. In the game, I can't. But if we go over and over and over,

the percentage of 100% gets a little bit closer. If I let you fuck around in practice, what is your game going to be like? So my game, my practice is hard as hell. So the game is easy. Because I say if your practice is easy, the game's going to be hard. So as far as when you teach, like, do you teach like the feel of the perfection? Like always taught like when you do the move right, you can feel it. And when it goes in, you will know like that's the feeling when I make this move. It's supposed to feel like that.

It's supposed to look like that. And if you do it the same way every time, you're going to get the same result. Every time. The moment that you take your eye off the ball, you start thinking about some other shit, you start missing, you're like, I know you're not locked in. Because if we do it right, it's going to go in, it's going to feel great. But a lot of times these kids don't lock into the feeling of it because they're so attached to trying to get the mechanics of it right, instead of just the flow of the game. Is that the same?

Yeah. Because one, the trainer is not locked in. The trainer doesn't know how to lock in. The trainer doesn't understand the process of locking in to To drill that on a kid. Yeah, right how to lock in what it should feel like. Mm-hmm, right My like my kids don't know what a hundred percent like from the moment we start 530 by 515 they're done and Then we're practice. So we spend 45 minutes just on dribbling drills yep right yeah just on dribbling four on fire so my you know my son you know six he can't dunk you my workout you can't dunk in my workout you got to be a super athlete to go in

there and dunk like i got drills where you gotta to, we're doing layups, you got to dunk all 50 times. All 50. If not, up and down. After each drill, I make you run. Squats, push-ups, then jump into the drill. It's boot camp. I can imagine why they hate it.

Because that's the best feeling, knowing if you can overcome my dad's training, I can train with anybody. You get to regular practice like this? But that's the best feeling, knowing if you can overcome my dad's training, I can train with anybody. You get to regular practice like this? But that's what I said. I said, he's going to try out for USA basketball. And he said, man, it was easy.

Because what happens is he hates leaving and then coming back because when he comes back, he feels like he's starting from zero. And I told him, I said, to be honest, you're never going to feel like you can conquer my workout, bro. That's the challenge. That's the challenge. You're never going to. Like, you know, we're doing 50 makes, it goes to 100 makes. 100 makes goes to 200 makes.

Like, you know, I used to shoot till my fingers bleed. Right? You know, that's just how it is. I said, you're not even there yet. You still. We ain't even gotten to the progressional point yet. Oh, God. If you work at child services, it's all willing.

This is how you get to where you need to get to. Oh, man, you know, that's how it is. Oh, no, no, no. My daughter, if she can call him, she calling him. She going to call him. Oh, no, she going to call him. Keep the cell phone away from her. Oh, yeah, I'm brutal. Said you was working or something.

I thought I was working out a hoop and not a girl. Oh, my God, my stomach hurt. But it's not verbal, though. You're not like a verbal, like, some guys are just, when you're doing work, like, the work going to cut your ass out. The work going to verbalize you, like, this shit is so fucking hard. I just want to go to sleep. You know it's nap time.

When is there water breaks? Water? I said, water? What's that? Who drinks water? I said, I've never seen a superstar during a game drink water. The only people that's drinking water is the motherfuckers sitting on the bench. If you want to be a professional water drinker,

you don't even have to wake up for this shit. You can, everyone has an opportunity to sit on the bench and drink water all day. Water? I said so now. We drink water when it's over. Water? That's the best part during the training though, when you're training kids. You ask them, you're like, alright,

you finish the element of the training and you get them free throws and you're like, alright, you get some water if you want some. And if that kid is like, no, I'm ready. He's locked in. He's locked in. I lost my son this year. It was like water, bring all the other kids, run over.

I don't know, water. I'm like, ah. I ain't got to tell you that. Those kids are six, bro. Yeah. No, listen. You're locked in. No, no, no.

Talk about it. Most beloved coach in the league. The most beloved coach in the league. He won a little Tiger Woods though. Yeah, but you hear Josiah talk, right? You think he's talking about like high school teens, right? Whatever. And then I see in the picture... Six.

Six! He missed this event for some six years. Yes. My son is locked in. I didn't miss it. I came right after. It was our last game of the season. He's coming late for six years.

Coach J, most beloved coach in the league. Other parents are already like, you coming back? I don't know. I don't like your latitudes over here. You can't wait to get these roadblocks. Where's my roadblocks at? You get five buckets, you get a roadblock. After the fifth bucket, where's my roadblock?

What if I get ten? Oh, shit. Whatever. Put some tokens on that tag, bro. But let's get into this thing. So today is a special day in Summer Hoops lore. It's the 12th anniversary of Kobe making his debut at the Drew League. Sad Brandon's not here to enjoy this with us, but this was the day, August 16, 2011.

We got the video. So I actually got to be there that day. My dad hit me up like, yo, come through. Kobe's pulling up. I was kind of a big LeBron fan at that point. So I was like, I don't even know if I want to go. Showed up, filmed all this shit, man. It was one of the most special days, I think, in my life.

I see everybody there. But Kobe and Harden going at it head to head. DeMar DeRozan on the other squad, too. He was just dishing out buckets. Too little. Posting your little ass. Come here. Harden was young at this point, but still embraced the challenge. Come on. Was giving Kobe that work too. Shit. You see, I think Poojetter up in there. Kobe told him, repeat the list. Wilt me Mike. Wilt me Mike? I think he was talking to Marcus Banks at that point, too.

Don't forget the list. That's a short list. The team was down like eight with like four minutes to go in the game. Cops tried to get him to dip. It was a big-ass crowd like, yo, Kobe, let's avoid the mob, get you out of here. He was like, fuck that. I got to finish this game. It's different.

Game tied, 15 seconds to go. The rest is history. It's different. Grr. Simmich. And the crazy thing, you know like the Drew, y'all played there, the amount of shit talking that was going on. Like obviously Kobe's Kobe in LA, but he pulled up there, you know, like the Drew, y'all played there, the amount of shit talking that was going on. Like, obviously Kobe's Kobe in L.A., but he pulled up there. You got motherfuckers on the court holding babies, screaming, talking shit at them.

Team was down. Oh, you ain't nice like that. Kobe's like, all right. Proceeded to get to cooking. Game winner, heart is grilled. But when you look back, how big was that moment in Kobe's career, and what did it mean to the city of LA I? I think it meant a lot for just basketball players right you're talking about Like for players who never made it players who still like have hope

You know players who need inspiring you know he players who need inspiring. You know, he comes down there. What gym was that? Is that Old King? That was at Washington Park. Yeah, it was Washington Park, the smaller old school Drew Legion. I think they're at King. King Drew now.

Yeah, so, you know, to see him come down and, you know, witness that, that probably changed James Harden's thought process and DeMar DeRozan's. Because don't when you when you're at a certain level This doesn't happen, yeah, right, you know, so the fact that you know, he did come down to Grace the floor, you know is just iconic in itself Definitely after he won those championships to you know You know, what was that, 2010? Yeah, 2010, I think the next year, who was that, the Mavs year?

2011 was the Mavs, right? This was the lockout year? This was the lockout, yeah. Oh, this was the lockout, okay. Makes sense. 9-10. Yeah, 11 is the Mavs. 11 is the Mavs beat the Heat, but Kobe pulled up.

I mean, just him pulling up after, you know, going through getting his fifth, right? And then, you know, like you said, James, DeRozan, even the guys, like you said, that come up that don't never really get that type of legacy around them. You know, I remember the guy named Frank Robinson. You know, Frank, you know, when Kobe came back to see him, you know, see Drew play, he was sitting courtside, and just that presence of Kobe watching the Drew ignited Frank to get called up because he raised his level of game. Like guys raise their level of play when guys like Kobe, guys like you step on the floor it's like, shit, Kobe here? Gil here? I got, I want him. I want him.

So, you know, unfortunately, James ended up on the wrong end of that. I mean, I forget how it broke down, but one of them had like, I think James might have had like 50, Kobe had 40-something. Oh, yeah, James was cooking. James was cooking. James was James. James was James. James was cooking.

But he ended up on the wrong side of that thing. Even to your point, them going like, they were going at each other kind of playful early on. Kobe kind of came in on his Kobe shit, just being cool with everybody. And then once it got time for business, him and James were kind of going at it. Then it got serious, and it was like, all right, let me show y'all what this really is, what it's really about. But LeBron had been there earlier that year. The Drew, Drew's obviously a big league, and we see where the Drew's at now. It's the premier basketball league in the country.

But it was still up and coming at that point, so a lot of dudes had pulled up that summer, showed how much they just loved the game and were willing to play for free, play for fans, and go out there and get it. So shout-out to Kobe. Probably one of my favorite memories is because I got to be there, camera all in his grill,

police pushing me. I'm like, fuck that. This is history right now. I'm trying to get all of this shit. But that summer, too, you on his grill, police pushing me. I'm like, fuck that. This is history right now. I'm trying to get all of this shit. But that summer, too, you had KD, I think, went up to the rucker, had like 66 hit those four or five threes in a row with the crowd coming in. LeBron pulled up and did his thing. Obviously, the game of mainstay.

But y'all both played summer pro leagues, and we've seen the other side of it. They shall remain nameless. But, guys, there you know nba players thinking it's sweet end up getting cooked never to be seen again but how much pressure is on you to perform when you're playing in these summer pro leagues it's a lot of pressure but we don't think about the pressure because right there when we get to that point you know summer league was what last month right we're not in no type of shape like the average you know the average NBA player is not in shape he's not in his real form so he's going there just to get the feel just to run up and down basically it's cardio yep right get a few shots see what he's you know it's cardio. Yep. Right? Get a few shots, see what he's, you know, it's just an up and down aspect of, you know, getting cardio in.

So he's not November player. Right? So there's no pressure when we step into the game. What ends up happening is we start getting our ass busted. And now we got to try to turn that on. Like, all right, okay, this is what we're doing. Hey, where my real shoes at? You know, you start doing that shit.

Yep. And that's when niggas get hurt. Yeah. Because it's like you got to turn it on when you ain't ready to turn it on because niggas start talking crazy, and you start hitting a couple shots. You really only there, like you said, for cardio, but you just want to measure where your game is in the summer. So it's like, all right, let me see where these moves at.

Let me polish some of this stuff. But then the guys start hitting. You got to guard a guy for real. You really don't want to summertime pick up. You don't know who he is. You don't know who he is. He coming at you, but you don't really want to play no defense. It's Olay. It's like, go ahead, bro. We ain really want to play no defense. Like, it's Olay.

It's like, go ahead, bro. We ain't trying to foul you. I ain't trying to do nothing. Just get me here. I got my own contract. Right? So when they do start coming at you, that's when the pride and the ego come in. And you like, oh, this nigga talking shit.

And then you hear the oohs and the ahs. This nigga cooking. Who said that? Who said that? Who said that? Oh, we got to step it up a little bit but if it wasn't that element a lot of guys would play more summer ball because the Embarrassment of it is a factor now the social media is apart

But back then it wasn't so you could go out there get cooked nobody you know about it It would take a day or two for that clip Yeah right now I remember you're gonna film that game You got the game winner, and I needed a special cord to upload, I had to go run over to KTLA to a buddy over there just to be able to transfer the video off my camera to be able to get it up.

And it was like a mad race where now everybody's got camera phones. That shit would have been up. Boom, right there. In 10 seconds of it happening. But that was kind of like the... And I really feel like that summer really pushed social to where it is now. Twitter didn't even have native video at that point you had to post it on YouTube and post

The link you know you know but that summer everybody was just pulling up everywhere playing for the love of the game so So both of y'all just question you know what's the best summer league that you played it on there you played what Goodman on DC I played in the Goodman I played drew when I retired In real run you play record, too. I played in when I retired in real run. You played Rucker too? I played in a Rucker tournament. Okay. I played in a Rucker tournament. It was the EBC World Game.

So I was on Team LA. Okay. We ended up winning. We won it. How was that experience? 60, 55, 55, 60. You know, a little light work. No, no, no.

Look, I was telling my son, I said, no, my daughter, because she was, she's supposed to be going to a game in New York. And I said, you don't have that kind of game for New York. Like, you're a bucket getter, right? So, game one, I got on, you know, I got on dicky pants. I'm not taking this shit serious. Like, a bunch of dribblers. Like, what?

Right? Right? Because I thought Barron was going was gonna play but baron's like oh i'm not gonna play the first game you play like uh i bet right so i got got on shoes just like i got on shoes just like this new york player they trash right so i'm just shooting jump shots missing like oh it's already a bad start for 40 started raining So we got a we got to go to gauchos gym and then finish the game there That's okay. Yeah, we gotta go to the gym. I said with a basketball gym. There's a year. Oh

Hey So yeah, I got my two names out there. One name I can't... My first name was Pro Material, and then I got another name that I'll get canceled if I say it. Damn. Just about 60, 55, 55, 60. Mm.

I was a killer. The name was not cancelable back in that... It was a different time. It's cancelable now No, no, no, no, I'm pretty sure that she's been canceled since Since since kill it can't be too much better. We're creating says so much bad shit It ain't cake be that bad 55 55 60. I Was considered a killer of man. Okay. Right? So.

Okay. I believe. I believe. I believe. They engage people. Okay. I believe. I got two and a half guesses. Yeah, just can't say that shit out loud.

But on the subject of Kobe, after years of uncertainty surrounding the Kobe signature shoe line and Nike, Mamba's making a comeback and Kentucky's making some history becoming one of the first schools selected as a Mamba program. Kentucky was handpicked by Vanessa Bryant for this honor. They'll get the shoes the merch. They'll really start rocking out doing that So I just want to ask I wish our thoughts on Kentucky becoming a mamba program surprised I Mean, you know surprised considering that whenever he talked about college. He always said Duke Right. So, you know, you know, I just assumed that, you know, it would have been Duke.

Like, Kentucky, what's his ties with Kentucky? Yeah, because he liked Coach K a lot. Yeah, he liked, yeah. So, you know, like I said, if I did go to college, I would have been the Duke, and he always repped Duke. But Coach K ain't there no more. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, so obviously that was a lie.

Is that a Calipari tie? I feel like Calipari came in and flexed the muscle. Yeah, because I don't know. Because there ain't no ties to Philly. Yeah, I mean, you got Villanova and other spots out there. They're going to obviously name more schools. I think for more the marketing play, like Duke is what it is, but Kentucky really obviously moves the needle in terms of fan base,

20,000 strong a game. Who's their sponsor right now? I think they were just Nike, right? So is the Mamba brand separate from Nike? Yep, got his own logo, the Sheath logo. So they're going to take over the Nike? Now that's a monster move. You know, push them out the paint a little bit.

Is that what Kobe was working on the whole time? His own brand outside of Nike? I'm pretty sure. was working on the whole time. His own brand outside of Nike. I think that's what he was doing. I'm pretty sure. I think that's what he was doing. Calipari wanted Kobe on the Nets, but got finagled out in the 96 draft. You think Nets, Kobe?

That would have been a hole. I like the move, though. I like the move just because Kentucky is, they're trying to come back up the scale because they dropped off for the last three, four years, maybe. They got DJ Wagner maybe. They got DJ Wagner there.

They got a couple new recruits. It's a good move, business move-wise. I like it. That's going to be... There's just certain things. That's a good recruiting. Kobe fans, those kids, I get to wear only Kobe's?

That's the thing. Is the Kobe's Nike's? Yeah, but you get to wear only Kobes. But that's the thing. Is the Kobes Nikes? Yeah, but you get to wear exclusively just the Kobe shoes. I mean, yeah, it's going to the... Like Jordan brand, you have to wear Jordans. Could you wear regular Nikes too or you had to wear all Jordans? I wore Nikes. But everyone else had to. That was the

difference. It was a Jordan brand school, so we got free Jordans. It wasn't like we got Nikes. We didn't get Nikes, you know, but I liked the 2K4s and that was the only Nike that anybody wore on the team. But I never got someone telling me we couldn't wear them. But that's what's the interesting point with the Kobe. Like, is the Kobe brand going to be separate? Like, is it not going to have the Nike emblem on it? Like, that's what I'm wondering. Is he going to come out with a new version of the shoe?

The Sheath logo, that's kind of all. Yeah, it's going to be his logo, but because he's under Nike, you can still wear Nike stuff. Right, the Nike Kobe. Yeah, but you're getting the new, is it going to be the new Kobes? That's what I want to see. That's going to be tough.

That's why it's such a good move because you're unveiling this type of new shoe. Because you think about Jordan brand when they first came out, it was outside of Nike. When we talk about Jumpman, that Jumpman brand was dope because it had other elements outside

of the regular Jordan. So seeing that Kobe's following that suit, and we don't know where it's going to go. What did y'all wear, Jumpman? Yeah. Trash. Trash. That ass.

It was trash. I don't like the... What was it? The sky hook mixed with the... He got caught halfway. Halfway in the air. The Jumpman shit. The Jumpman, Jumpman, Jumpman, Jumpman.

I never ordered a pair of Jumpmans. I never had the Jumpmans either. I never had them. Never wore them. Never had them. I always wanted the Vin Baker joints, but just never got them. Yeah, them is the rarest Jordans. The Vin Baker.

What was your favorite shoe to hoop in when you was at Arizona? Favorite shoe at Arizona was probably the Bo Jackson's. Ooh, I hate you. Bo Jackson's. I love them. Yeah, them shits was fire. God damn, they're so fire. Yeah, I love the Bo.

Did they have too much grip for you? No. It was perfect? Not for me. I love running shoes. Did you ever wear the low top ones? Yeah. Them shits was fire, too.

Them shits was fire. running shoes. Did you ever wear the low top ones? Yeah. I'm just fired. I gotta say the two the Harachis, the Harachi 2K4s was my favorite but then the Jordan 12s. So UCLA's a Nike school now. We were not back in the day. Don't wanna, you know, but we used to always, the mental stigma when we have to go to Arizona and see all these and the freshest jazz. Oregon kind of the same way but their color scheme was kind of nasty so it was never like intimidating seeing the green where them superstars pro models

pro models it was nasty pro models we hated looking at y'all's shoes we got the Kobe ones Kobe ones were great they gave us like

20 pair a red shirt that year but next year it was the moon boots that came out was that 2000 I think 01

they came with the moon boots after about two practices. I remember Matt Barnes literally cut the whole shit up just to make it lighter as a shoe. And I remember looking at it from a practical standpoint. I was just balling and trying to play. And it was like, yo, you got to get these shits the fuck out of here, man. No disrespect to Kobe. I'm sure he even knows that moon boots were straight hot ass.

Okay, so inside on like uh shoes right the shoes we wear isn't the same exact shoe that's being sold right you know so if those were heavy his wasn't no his wasn't 100% not right so he's gonna alter it for his his feet yeah right versus generic because i remember um when something happened with my shoes and we forgot the bag and I had to go to the Adidas store

in New York to get a pair and put on, what the fuck is this? It ain't even the same. Ow! I see we got the... It was burning and everything.

It was crazy because I got a signed pair of Kobe's and they were like the only pair that he actually wore in this particular version was the Rachi 2Ks. Okay. But they were like flat. They that he actually wore in this particular version was the Rachi

2Ks. Okay. But they're like flat. They were high top. They were a mixture of everything, right? And you could see like the difference between these and all the other ones. And even when I tried to put them on, he wore 14 and I wore 13, 12 and a half. So I was trying to play in them shits and everything.

I'm like, I don't just want to see what these feel like. What was Kobe doing when he was doing this shit and as you could feel the difference compared to the ones that you bought in The stores it's like this is these are way lighter Tighter around the ankle. Yes all that shit. We got them gen pop pro models So they talk about Zion shoe exploding when he was rocking the night I seen that she happened at least five times or practice line You know, listen, You knew the shoe was trash when they had a hundred colors of it.

Man. You can get the pro models in any color. Any color. Then we got T-Max to those first early versions, so those were pretty solid. Like, we would get the good shit, but... Antoine Walker's was the only Adidas shoe that I wore before I became a Nike guy.

And they didn't work out for me because I played good in them, but we ended up losing, and I ain't losing AAU. And it was the only tournament we lost wearing some goddamn Adidas. I was so fucking pissed. I'm never wearing these shits again.

So you went to Arizona Nike school, ended up getting a signature shoe deal with Adidas. Shout out to the Agent Zeros. So how did that Adidas deal come about? Did Nike try to make a push for you, Reebok, some of them other companies? And what made you go to Adidas? Oh, no, no.

So I started AAU Adidas. So I played for pumps. Ah. Yeah, so I was a pump kid. So I was Adidas, you know, mostly high school, all free shit. That's dope. You know, I used to tell Kiki,

I'm sponsored by Adidas already. Going to the NBA, just... Like the sweat suits and shit, fine. Just capping. So, you know and shit, fine. Just capping. So, you know, Arizona, Nike. So when I came into the draft, right? I'm 31 picks, so nobody's really. So I had Nike and Reebok.

Reebok had cash. Yeah. So Reebok had cash, and they gave me 50K in, was it apparel, right? So it was like 25K cash, 50K in apparel. At that point, from that escalate, I needed the 25K. And then the thing about the football, because that's when football jerseys was popping. So I used to order the football jerseys and sell it to the team. Ooh.

Right? Yeah, yeah. He was a hustle. He was a hustle. I knew that 50, when he said that 50, I knew where it was going. Hustle.

He was getting funneled down to the straight cash. Oh, I was having all kind of jerseys created. Like, I guess like back then, like Juvenile was hot. Like I had all kind of jerseys on my football jersey. Yeah, yeah. Jerry Rice. I had all kind of sayings on my football jersey.

Yeah, yeah. Jerry Rice, I had all that shit. But that's, so I started off with Reebok. And then from Reebok, when I went to Washington, if you see, you'll see there's a picture, I think we was in, we was playing Hornets, and I have on the Air Max, the blue, the running shoe, the Air Max.

It wasn't Air Max. I know what you're talking about, the blue with the white. Yeah, the Air Max. Fire one. Yeah, so I wore those, and then,

Pumps said, you know, what's up, you want to come back? Hell yeah. Give me a little. Kill. And we got to talk quickly just about the Dolce & Gabbana.

Dropped 23 points against the Lakers December 2010. How did that? How did that? Well, the D.A.G. came up. Oh, so look. They weren't my shoes, right? They weren't my shoes. Sitting in the locker room, finished working out.

And then the second bus comes. So Nick, them, you know, second bus, the clown group coming. And then, you know, everybody's taking a, and then I see, like, Nick has his shoes right there. Right? So you know how, like, how he placed his shoes. The jersey. Right, so you know how like like how he placed his shoes it it the jersey and I'm sitting there like And that shit kind of fire right there, right and I'm looking at my shoes like it is trash Hmm

Yeah, I'm putting them on right so why he's working out. I put them on you know how you do this Oh, he's good took off, placed them right back there. So it was like, one, two, three, break. And they started running. They walked out there. I hurry up and switch, put his shoes on. Okay. And then... Watch me. Let's go, y'all.

He's sitting there looking at me like, aw, man. Too late, brother. He's mine now. I would love to tell the story about how motherfuckers don't know. I was definitely the Nike guy coming in. For sure. From 02. Like, I used to test shoes for, like, Paul Pierce.

He had a shoe that he used in the playoffs, probably, I think, 03. I was testing in high school they used to send me you know shoes to test you should get boxes and boxes of shoes when you Nike yeah it's different yeah so Keith Brown shout out the key Brown I don't know who he's working with probably Jordan probably now but between me and Jerry Jack Fred Jones we used to always fridge hose man we used to always get the flyest fucking George. Yeah, Fred Jones had the.

He went to Oregon. You know what I'm saying? He's the only one on the team that had the baller shit. Bro, when he was in Indiana, we'd be like, yo, what's on his feet? He always had something crazy. Him and Mike Bibby, they had the craziest shit. So by the time I got to college, you know, you knew who the Nike guys were. Right?

So I ended up getting Nike contract. So me and Chris Paul, coming out of our year, we knew Sebastian, Dwight Howard, Josh Smith got them big contracts from Adidas. And we knew it was going to get big contracts. Oh, we at least going to get two, three mil. 400,000, 600,000, good enough. But one thousand six hundred thousand Good enough, right? So I had a four-year contract four hundred thousand a year have my own signature little shoe you know I'm saying where I can

Feel like I was one. I was one of the up-and-coming guys Yeah, I'm saying it wasn't like I came out and I didn't I didn't produce enough to be you know considered a guy But I didn't produce enough to get read up. You know what I'm saying? Where it's like, oh man, we're going to give you another contract, blah, blah, blah. But I love the fact that they have separated the Nike and Adidas circuits because when you get picked at a young age, like you did with the pumps, and I was with Charlotte Royals at the time, so it was a Nike team. You get to show your loyalty to not necessarily a brand, but kind of like an affiliation to a group, to a style of shoe, right? Because my style was definitely Nike.

I didn't want no Adidas around me, and it didn't feel right. So getting all the way to the league and seeing how them shits feel and being associated with like Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo, we all had our own little niche. That shit was important, you know what I'm saying? So a lot of fans don't be knowing like certain guys were on their way up when it came to the Nike circuit because we were all there from fucking 13, 14 years old. We were already handpicked. And this is the thing, like we came in kind of the beginning of that a you like 4d we didn't have no fucking

Weird in the game. We might put everybody put in 80 on the team sure Then I switched over to a case with and you can imagine whooping in case with shoes But like it was like Baron was on the older team Paul Pierce, but they were just a shit So we got free case with but right around that time I think PTI yeah but PTI would do this shit where they would just show up to the gym if he was on another team like come on we're gonna take your ass over to the warehouse let you get whatever you want you know and I've seen this shit like I've seen the kid was over my house swimming one day pulled up with us to the game he's not even on our team literally got scooped up that day like they were in the gym like oh come next to you

No, I just completed one game with us next to you You know he gone like but they would like pull up with the the truck full of Nike shit And that was the thing like adidas obviously was the shit too back then but once Nike came into play But even with you playing pumps adidas nowadays It's like guys come up in that rank and it takes a lot for them to to break off and go You know traditionally you come up Nike or go to a night. You saw guys come up in that rank, and it takes a lot for them to break off and go. You know, traditionally, you come up Nike, you don't go to a Nike school. You come up Adidas, you don't go to Adidas school.

And so as high school kids, man, you can see that these kids are torn on these shoes because they have their favorite players and they want to wear their favorite player's shoe. They don't give two shits about the company themselves. They're going to wear the Paul Georges, you're going to have the Steph Currys, you're going to have- The Mello. The Mellos. The Kyries.

You're going to have Kyries, You're going to have LeBron. Everyone's going to wear whatever they want, but now when you get on certain teams, now you have... I heard a kid and his father say, we want to play on this team because this team is the best team for us. But we want to play for the USA team, so we got to play with the Nike team. Yep. Yep. Right? So they feel that they got to play on a Nike type of team to make the USA,

and then guys who want to make the McDonald's All-American, they feel they got to play on an Adidas team. Like, just ball out. Who gives a fuck? If you average at 40 every motherfucker year, you go make the Olympic team, there you go make the, like. It made a difference, though.

It really did. It does, but it doesn't. The Tennessee Travelers were recruiting me when I was in AAU, and I was trying to find a team. And the Charlotte Royals were Nike. But my coach for the Charlotte Royals was on the committee for the USA. So if I wanted to get to Nike camp

and on the Colorado Springs for the USA. So if I wanted to get to Nike camp and on the Colorado Springs for that USA thing, I needed to be on the Nike team. And I didn't have that access for the Adidas team with Tennessee Travelers. And it was like a decision you had to make. It was like, damn, this is the ultimate exposure for me. If I go to

Nike camp, I'm going to be considered top 100 in the country. And then you made McDonald's anyway. And then we ended up making it, but it was the exposure playing with the top guys at USA. That's where it changed because it's only, it was like the top 70, maybe 60, 60 guys. And they were all higher up juniors and seniors. I'm sophomore.

So it's like, if I go here shit they gotta be considering me something and then you make it two three years in a row just because you're a Nike guy I mean what what you got to make decisions and that's a hard decision for a kid to make like man this team is the best team but I want to make the USA yeah but yeah I mean I also often wanted to how much kids are actually thinking about you when you Break it down like that the kids ain't I just want to work so we just

We thinking about it today until they present it with to us you like wait Do they had us hoping in case with and all we thought was like shit bears on this tape I was on the older team kg came and played through with him You know Paul and kg playing on that team I was on like the 11 or 12 and under when that happened. And we didn't give a fuck. Like, yeah, we wear these K-Swiss whatever, shoes are shoes, but now the game has changed so much. And Gil, like you saying, like, you know, kids want to wear the Jaws. Like, kids want to wear, you know, I'm curious to see with Kyrie going over to Anter, like, if kids start

rocking the Kyries and what impact he now has. So that's solid. For him, he's going there for sure. I think he already got that deal. I mean, you know, it all depends on the design, how it looks. Does it? For kids? It always mattered

how it felt to me. Yeah. But what about, like, for you, it was the look? Me, feel and look. Like, I mean, that's what I said. I like running shoes because they were lighter.

Yeah. I feel like I was, like, feel and look. Like, I mean, that's why I said I like running shoes because they were lighter. Yeah. I feel like I was, like, Flash. Yeah. Reminds me, like, Stace Bozeman from USC. I don't know if y'all remember that name, but he used to play in the low tops. Straight legend. Yeah. Straight low tops at SC, but he used to kill, man.

He ended up playing for the Rockets for a little bit in the league. I think got, like, a trial with the Raiders and could have went to the MLB, too. Yeah. Stace Bozeman's cousin. When you a hooper though, you like to just hoop and shoot. Like for me, I always just experimented with shoes.

I just, I like to wear the shoes, the Charles Barker. I wore all the different types of shoes to see what they felt like. Scotty Pippins, the Chris Webbers, like all of the different ones.

It's like, these all trash. See, I wasn't even on basketball. I wasn't on basketball shoes back then like that. Like I like Penny. Rarely had Jordans. You was in a cross-training football joint.

Yeah, I was Deion Sanders. Very Sanders Jordan. Like if you look at the Deions, like he had his face at the bottom of it. It was like in a hologram and look. That's why my slam magazine has me in it Yeah, right because that's where I got the idea DeAndre Agassi's Fuck is look goofy with basketball shoes on and jeans and shit and we tie it all tight. We got the Was it a shy so as a sideshow bob feet?

Like, nah. Big ass, long ass, tight shit. It's just popping up. All right, but let's keep this thing moving. So we had the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame inducted its latest class this weekend. And the NBA and WNBA were well represented. Shout out to Becky Hammond, Dirk, the rest of that crew. Who had Tony Parker, Pal. Pal, yeah, Tony Parker. And our guy, Dirk, the rest of that crew, Tony Parker, Pal.

Pal, yeah, Tony Parker. And our guy Dwayne Wade. So Wade shared a special moment with his father that might even make Gil or Shot consider shedding a thug tear. Damn. We had the same exact dream. And we carry the same exact name. Dwayne Tyrone Wade. To know we hustled all the way to the

Basketball Hall of Fame is God's will. So Pops, I know your knees a little sore, but will you join me on stage as we take our rightful step into basketball heaven. This one is for my father. I love you and I'm thankful for you. I love you too, man. We're in the Hall of Fame, dog. I'm truly emotional. That's a good one. Man, that's cool.

We got tissues if y'all want. That's a good one, dad. That's a good one. That's a good one, man. I ain't gonna lie. Give some smoke, D-Way. That's a good one. that's a good one. That's a good one, man, I ain't gonna lie. Give some smoke to D-Wade. That's a good one. Throw some smoke at him.

So, Wade, three-time NBA champ, 2006 Finals MVP, one-time scoring champ, eight-time All-NBA, 13 All-Stars, three All-Defensive teams, All-Star Game MVP, 75th anniversary team. What made D-Wade's game so special? The way he, like you ever seen like a tiger or like a panther, like how they get low to attack? That's how he played. So like when he's coming at you, he's low and then he's exploding up, right? like, even his pick and roll, to this day, I don't know what he did or how he got through pick and rolls. But it was one of those things where he got so low and exploded, it was really hard to guard the dude. He was really explosive. Yeah.

D-Wade, man, shit, man. I ain't never really seen, like you said, the one word to explain him is explosive, like quick, like elusive. You know what I'm saying? Splitting that pick and roll. He had certain moves that he introduced outside of Ginobili,

which is him kind of mastering the Euro after Mano introduced it to the world. And then he had this baseline spin move where two dribbles to the baseline, spin back, dunk on your ass. And it was like so many things that you could try to do to stop him. And then once he had his midi going,

he could pull up to the free throw line and get that shit going. And it's a long night if he hitting the three, and you never know when he gonna dunk on whoever the fuck down there. The snatch back. The snatch back at the free throw line. That drive really hard, that reverse snatch, that was him.

That was him. He hit Baron Davis with it as a rookie, going into the play, oh that. When he can, he introduced certain moves for like a guard like me. Like seeing a game changer. When you can come in, give a move, and it work every fucking time. And you're like, I need that in my game. Once you put that in, you're like, oh, this is why he's so cold.

But he had elements of his game that make him a Hall of Famer. You know what I'm saying? Like the explosiveness, like you said. It's hard to teach a kid how to get that low and get to the basket and finish. The only thing I wish about D-Wade is that he didn't hit the ground so hard. He was always falling and flailing. And that was one of them things. That's how he got to the free throw line.

We was this close from being teammates. in miami right yep it was this close so i was a my free agent year was the year he got drafted so miami was you know um coming after me and cuban ties right they were like okay so we want to play them at the point so you guys can have this 1.2 type of, type of like if you can guard the point, he can guard the two, he can bring the ball. So we have this great combo that we can do, right? You have your Cuban ties, so you're coming back home.

This is a great story. And I was asking for, I think, 50 at the time. So the number was around 55. What year was that? This is 03. 03. So Pat Riley was like, I don't believe paying young guys that kind of money. Because I'm asking for 55, but we're tearing up.

So I was like and then that's when Washington opened up and then they had 63 to offer. Oh shit, right so Lamar Odom is waiting for me because he's number one free agent. I'm number two mmm and under under us was Miller Andre Miller Andre Miller and he already set the tone at 51 What was he coming from? He was coming from a off year from Cleveland Cleveland. Then he went to Denver Denver Yep, right. So he kind of set the bar. So I'm like I'm at least you know, 15 million more than him Yeah, and then I know you know, Lamar Odom was like, well, I'm in front of Gilbert. So he was waiting for me That's so yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so we was doing that. So I'm in front of Gilbert. So he was waiting for me. That's wild. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we was doing that.

So when I picked Washington, he took that money. In Miami. In Miami. Where was he? He was coming from Clippers. Clippers, yep. Do you ever regret not going to that Heat squad? No.

Right? You know, I got to really establish who I was as a player. Yeah. In Washington, that was the point that, you know, I got to really establish who I was as a player. In Washington that was the point that they didn't have a superstar, they were ready for a star and I was going to be handed the keys. How would that work out? Hypothetically you still would have been there for Shaq, right? With that money now.

But it was a three year deal? Five. Six years. Wait. Well they would have had enough break in. It wasn't the max. I was a six year, yeah I was a six year 63. Five. Six years. Wait. Well they would have had enough break- It wasn't the Mac. I was a six year, yeah I was six year 63.

You were six years- But would they have had to pay Wade by then? No, they would have been able to have all you guys. That was Wade's first- Yeah, rookie, so you've been still a rookie dude. We don't know, who did Shaq get traded for, Lamar Odom? Was it Odom, Caron, or that? Yep, yep.

It was Odom and Caron. Yeah, I could have been in LA. Yeah, I could have been in LA. But shit, you ended up on LA. You think that would have been a clash with you and D-Wade? Nah. Like how would that have panned out as far as balance? Just once, I mean, you know, he didn't shoot,

so he was more of a slasher type. So, you know, we were both, you know, I'm fast as shit, so I'm going to get the ball up and we're just going to run. In comparison to who we see today, what would y'all want to, like, Damon McCullough type shit, or something more explosive than that? I mean, the way he, I mean, we would have been fast as hell, man. It would have been different. Like Fox and Monk? Nah, more like a Jason Kidd and Vince style. Yeah.

You know what I mean? It was one of those, but just more. I mean, Jason Kidd was about the same speed. Yeah. But, you know, you're talking about guys who's really attacking. We both led the league in free throw. Free throw, y'all would have definitely been flashing the fuck out of the ball. I remember I was on the bad side of Wade.

Tell the story, Gil. And this is the last time I called a player out in public, right? So, you know, USA, they lost, it was 2004. They lost that 2004, right?

So we're about to play, we're about to play Miami. So they were asking about, you know, you know, what are you going to do with Miami? Shaq, I think, is Shaq over there yet? No. No. 06 is Shaq. So after World Cup, 06 maybe?

Not yet. Because we have Larry, because Larry had to deal with that bullshit. Right. It was the 05, 0405 season. 0405. Yeah. So, I'm like,

so, I'm in the paper like, ain't nobody caring about no Miami, you know, and D. Wade. You know, we're going to just do

what they did in the Olympics. Just run a little zone on them. They can't shoot for shit, right? So, I'm using USA basketball

to talk shit about Wade and I realize it's two different teams. Two different men. Two different players. So I'm just talking shit. Nobody worry about it. He can't shoot for shit, right? I'm just talking. And then you're watching game by game.

Damn, he turning it on. He cooking, cooking, cooking. watching game by game like hey turn it on hey cookie cookie cookie right so now I'm scared I called his hotel hey hey Dwayne it is a this Gilbert radius uh I don't know if you read the article but um yeah they got that business niggas always say, Mr. Screwed. Mr. Screwed. We don't even know how to say it. It's Mr. Screwed. Yeah, you know how reporters are.

Yeah, so I'm just, you know, I ain't really mean under that stuff that was in there. You know, we talking, so click. Woo. Yeah, dodge that bullet. You know how like, you know, warming up. Oh, he look like he on a mission. Got that mold. He got that mold going like, nah, bro. Thought we had a conversation.

You know, he'd shake hands and he just. I swear to God, he had about a quick 16. And I'm over here like, hey, hey, use your words. Relax. Use your words. Relax. Use your words. What was going on with you? Use your words. And I remember Larry was so mad at me, bruh. Because I think he had like 40.

And Larry was like, listen, if you're going to start calling people out, you guard them. Yeah. Right? You guard their asses because I'm not taking all this smoke for you. My bad, bro. I didn't know it was going to end up like this. And then Brendan Haywood was like, after the game, he was like,

I mean, Gilbert wasn't wrong. Shit, he didn't shoot. He didn't shoot. Brendan Woods did some shit like that. He didn't shoot. I think our records against each other was like 3 and 16. Yeah, he... I used to smack you Oh, I think he took that personal. Yeah, especially you call them. Yeah, he took that person Oh, you gonna try because I

Soon as he hung up he say oh my I'm gonna go to see Burley what the fuck this nigga tried to alleviate the pain Every since then I never called the player. I like Got listen I got hit in the mouth. Every since then, I never called the player I liked that much. I got hit in the mouth. It was every... He never let up. Even though I had some great games, nah. He never let me live that one down. I'm trying to find it right now just to confirm.

It was in Washington. It was in Washington. He had almost 40. In that 04005 season? Yeah. Because y'all played them back to back. Yeah. Both of them. There would have been an ass whooping back to back.

Whatever it was, it was ass whooping ass whooping. I can tell you that. You'd be having that confusion face on like, what's wrong with you? What's wrong? Like, yo, hey, use your word. What you... Use your vowel. And one.

No, no, not that. Not that. Not that. You're scaring the fans. God damn it. They ain't that serious. Oh, was that the very that. You're scaring the fans. God damn it. That's serious. Oh, was that the very first time y'all played him?

Yeah. First time. That's right. Yeah. He see that. He gave you 22 the next game. Back to back. That's the type of energy I want to see in today's game, though.

Like, we need that type of energy. Where niggas is like, uh-uh. We could have been teammates. Call them out and then show up and wipe them out. Call them out, wipe them out. Now that dudes get called out,

I'm going to sit this one out. Oh, yeah, I've seen that, too. I've seen niggas take the breaks. My ankle hurts. It's my break game. So Wade told Rachel Nichols, I've been Batman, I've been Robin,

I've been one of the three stooges. Damn. We talk about his career, everything he's done. He was also a devastating sixth man on that gold medal winning Redeem team in 2008. Really helped uplift and elevate them. But does Wade get enough credit for being able to play different roles on championship level teams? No, no. I think he gets his flowers. You know, no one's ever questioned, you know, Wade's ability, Wade's talent. I mean, even, you know, even when you think that, and when history, you know, starts looking into, like, you know, USA basketball and who, what team was best, and him coming off the bench, you're like, how? Right? You know, how?

Right? You know, how? Right? But, you know, I think that year when he went bald and, you know, showed up to, you know, USA, he was like, oh, this is a whole nother man right here. Right? So I think, you know, he adapted very well to all different situations. And, you know, that's a talent in itself. Yeah. Right? You know, going,

having a team by yourself, then Shaq coming. Right? And nobody realized that when Shaq came, they actually embraced, it was like a great merge. There was no hiccup.

It was like a great merge. And then Shaq leaves, Wade has it by himself, and then boom, LeBron comes right as Players they didn't have a hiccup. I mean the team just that bench was just old Yeah, they couldn't come off the bench and I mean even that first year though. I think there was a 23 game winning streak But Brian coming in Brian coming in from Cleveland used to being a man coming into Wade County

I think what against the Mavs or whatever Kind of that whole shit. Just just but way being like look, I've been a champion before let me lead you. Mm-hmm. So a little bit But after that, I wonder what the three stooges comment Whether is that increase to just three Musketeers sound a lot better than the Three Stooges. You know what I'm saying? So for me, it's like I've seen these. I like Musketeers. When Shaq comes in, it's like it's a no-brainer that you got to scoot over, right?

Because Shaq is coming off of, this is 2002. This is when they lost. No, 2004, 2005. 2003. It was a 2003, 2004. 2004, Pistons beat the Lakers. Yeah, 2004, 2005. 2003. It was a 2003, 2004. 2004, Pistons beat the Lakers. Yeah, 2004, right? So if you think about how Shaq was in that series that year

and then going to Miami, it's like if there's no drop-off for Shaq, you got to scoot over, little fella. Let me show you how to go, show you how to beat Kobe. But then it's like D-Wade took that year to learn from Shaq. Then he comes in, what was it, 05, 06? And then he becomes Flash. That's the first time we've seen Flash. So I don't really like the notion of people saying that he played Robin to LeBron

because the decision for him was like a teammate decision. We were talking yesterday. We're not dumb. I know how to dumb down my game when another good player comes in. Two good players come in. He don't get enough credit for allowing them to come to his domain

and sharing the wealth, sharing the seats and then giving the credit to LeBron. I think what Pat Raleigh did was to be able to say DeWayne Wade is the best Heat player of our franchise history. No knock on LeBron, but DeWayne held it down. Being able to say, I'm going to allow you guys to come in here and sit next to me and help us win. But all the rest of his journey, even when he goes

to Chicago, goes to Cleveland, those are decisions that I don't think he wanted to make. I think he wanted to stay in Miami. But when you force a man's hand, the trajectory of his career changes his path, and it's not really by his choice. But did he end up back in Miami to close out his career? I'm just glad he was able to do that. You know what I'm saying? And that last game was epic, too.

Triple double. Triple D, yeah. I remember that. D-Wade. Hold on. Let's pull up the numbers. We got pro basketball reference handy all the time. Everybody's like, why are you always looking at the computer?

Nigga, I'm multitasking. Okay? Doing 18 things at once. Yeah, 25, 11, and 10. And we talk about D-Wade even in the league. We got to go back to Marquette, too. Because this shit, I'll never forget. So I came into UCLA 2000.

My teammate TJ Cummins from Chicago, I think, played some AAU with D-Wade. We were all sitting on Bruin Walk, and we're talking about all the guys we think are nice. He's like, yo, man, y'all got to watch out for my boy D-Wade. He's a Prop 48 this year. He not playing, but when he come in, he going to be nice. And, you know, that's L.A. dude.

Like, nah, nigga, fuck about no D-Wade. Like, whatever. But then to see him those two years at Marquette leading the team in scoring, making that final four run, dropping triple doubles in the tournament, was like, oh, this dude is. And you see it in college, right, but now to do it at that league level too and to continue playing like that, like he was playing a whole different game of basketball

than everybody else. But shout out to you, D-Way. But let's talk a little bit about that Hall of Fame induction. Wayne had Lil Wayne perform at his Hall of Fame celebration. Guy Willie Gill, if they ever get you into the Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame TV show host, you know. First, numerous all-NBA podcast teams. But who would you want to perform at your party?

Why would I have a party? At the Hall of Fame, you got to have a function. You do? Yeah. So what would Paul Gasol do? Tony Parker, what do you do? Antonio Banderas. Antonio Banderas. You have be honest. Antonio Banderas.

You ever go to a party? Yeah. Played to a party. Carlos, Carlos Santana was performing. Probably Kanye. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's rid of my, that's rid of my emotions, right?

Hell yeah. It's all just, just. Come on, Ye, come on. Yeah. Hit me with some Heartless, you know, some Amazing, go on that Gold Digger. Gold Digger, yeah, yeah. Just give me a bunch of, yeah, just give me a bunch of everything. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah come on. Yeah, come on. Hit me with some heartless, you know, amazing Everything Emotions in three songs Heartless, amazing, golden. Fucking golden. Who would you want to perform at your group? Man, I don't know, man. Shit.

I mean, Jay-Z, fuck it. You got to pull up. Yeah, because I was a whole fan, mostly my whole career up until. Dwayne actually was a good friend of mine when I got to the league. But up until that point, I was just hanging out with Jay and shit in college. So, Jay would probably be the iconic figure. Wayne took over, man. I never gave him like 300 tracks in a year. But it was just like, damn, man.

I would say Wayne if D-Way didn't have him there. But Wayne was my guy, 100%. But you can't do it now because of you. Yeah. I'm like, I'm the same thing. I'm going to say. Always biting. And you have a special relationship with D-Wade.

I mean, you talk about that story where you had to call the hotel and kind of ease attention about things. Y'all post-basketball career, y'all have a, you know, there's video circulating now of Wade talking about just the impact that you had with his family and his daughter and kind of helping that transition. And just being real. I think a lot of people look at you and they think it's always kind of jokes and the no chill and all that shit, which it is. But for those of us who are around you when the cameras aren't on, you definitely have a good heart and a serious side.

So just tell me a little bit about that relationship with D-Wade. How did y'all become so close? I guess through our kids, right? Through our kids around the same age and always have a house full of kids. So I remember I'm going to Great Wolf Lodge, right? And I think D- For a family vacation? Yeah, for a family. Just going to- You got the water park?

Yeah, the water park. Yeah, for a family. Just going up there? Yeah, just going up there. You got the water park? Yeah, the water park. Yeah, he's going up for the water park. And D-Wade asked, you know, at the time, if his son can come, right? So I was like, yeah, we got rooms and rooms and rooms. So, you know, that was the first time I was introduced. And then from there, just conversation. You know, I'm going to ask questions, right? And then I remember the first time, Google me.

You fucking famous? Your child star or something? No, just Google me. I'm not Googling shit. My phone dead, right? You tell me, so I'm doing that. And then that awkward break, then we just started having conversations, right? Just conversations like, what's your fear, this and that. And then at the time, his son opened up, right? The fear, the vision. And then talking to Dwyane Wade. And as fathers's it's that whole thing of we have one we have one job and that's to protect our kids right to understand our kids our kids decisions doesn't impact us right we have the stigma of you know what you do affects me no no no no what you do affects you you know you know I have a girl my My girl's cheating.

That don't affect. That don't make me look, but that's your flaw. That ain't my flaw. That's your flaw. You look stupid. I don't look stupid because I'm housing a hoe. I'm just housing a hoe. That's it. It ain't got nothing to do with me. I know the end game. Eventually, I'm going to let that go get someone else. That's your repetition

you got to deal with, not me. So, you know, as fathers, it's like, you know, there's going to be, you know, there's going to be a time where you're going to have to make a decision. You know what I mean? Not now, but coming soon.

Coming soon that, you know, your next chapter as a father is not going to be off of what you built. It's going to be off a decision that you're going to make with your future. So I know, I'm not going to tell you future daughter, but you know. And then he understood. So when the time came, he was prepared.

He was ready for it. And I'm proud, all this shit is good, the career, the championships, the Hall of Fame, I'm proud of how he handled his daughter. Because as an athlete, we use that man shit. No, no, no, no, no. That's not how you deal with your children, man. Like, Magic Johnson showed us. Right? You know, no matter if you want

to laugh at how magic and, you know, his son EJ is, you know, you're talking about a father who has shown that I love my child no matter what. I don't give a fuck what y'all talking about.

And, you know, the CD weighed with the same stance, right? That's, as a father, that's the most important thing. Because I'm telling you, I said, you know, your daughter's brilliant. What if I was going to be running your household? You don't want to end up in a halfway house or one of them motherfuckers. I can tell you that, God damn it. Right?

So, I mean, it was a blessing because it let me understand that, man, this shit is... Life is bigger than what we go through. Everyone's going through their own situation, so you really have to be understanding of people's emotions. We see someone spaz out. We call it a spaz out not realizing they might be they just might be going through something We know we need to sit there and process like what what's what's going on? Yeah, it's a lash out Yeah, that's real talk shot ID. Where's our Gabby Union shot?

I was I and the rest of the way family, but yeah I just you know that like that videos been circulating it was a from no chill before I got there But I think people just looking at the responses, they see you in a certain type of light and don't realize what kind of dude you are behind the scenes and how, like, you're that person that even as kids they trust because they can tell you anything and know they're going to get a real response back.

And, like, you know, I just worked with you the past couple years. You don't give a fuck about anything. Like, you know what I mean? You don't judge. You don't, you know, you embrace everybody. And that's what I said. I don't judge. I'm going, like know, you know, you know, and that's what I said. I don't judge I'm going like I'm gonna take it for face value

Yeah, if you're if you're if you're telling me something I'm gonna be I'm gonna be in the middle I don't have no judgment on it. So And I think that's why like my kids can come and tell me anything Right. Yeah Everybody said I'm like, yeah, you know, does your hand hurt when you jack off? What kind of you what kind of lotion you use boy you better get a girlfriend like because I know you're doing No, you're doing it boy. I see because you cheap. You better get this dirty. You better get this watered down. What the fuck is going on here, boy? Not the Aquaphor.

Coming in my own silicone lotion. But you got to have that type of relationship with your kids where they can open up and tell you these things. If not, you don't know what's going on. And, you know, like kids open up. Like I have a house full of kids. Yeah. I know.

We see them just walking around with motherfuckers. We got a big glass door right over here, but at any given point, you're going to see three or four kids just peeking in. Like, shouldn't they be in school?

Parents don't really know what's going on with you until they catch you. Yeah. Culture. Yeah. Culture. What's in there?

You got porno. When you going out here watching porn, boy. But they know and they just don't know sometimes. You know, like, my there? You got porno. When you going out here watching porn, boy. But they know, and they just don't know sometimes. Because, you know, like, my mom was sneaky as fuck. She was going through all my shit. Even, like, my elaborate hiding spots for shit. Elaborate hiding spots.

Pops didn't know the shit was missing until he started. Yeah, dad know you for shit. Like, where the hell is my booty talk, 12? This little nigga got my booty talk. He got my booty talk. And I was looking for 12. 12 is special. I was looking exactly for 12. 12 is special.

We done had 12 down at the homey house about two weeks now. 12 is a special episode. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. If you've watched the show, you know that we do whatever we want. We do not care. We will not get canceled. No, Paul. Hard as we try.

Hard as we try. Paul's watching. I know he know I'm... He knew you didn't even got that booty. You would have told the story, didn't you? Dang. One of my aunts, she had the big-ass laundry basket back in the day. It was like a field day.

It was like Blockbuster over there. They be having them in their own baskets and shit. You think this is laundry, but it's not. Who do you think you're hiding this shit from? they be having them in the wrong baskets you think this is laundry you think you're hiding this shit from the tapes in the laundry basket but let's keep this thing moving so some of the first year eligible players for next year include Vince Carter, Joaquin Noah

Tyson Chandler, Jamal Crawford other players from the modern era who some feel like have the best chance of making it include Chauncey Billups, Sean Marion, Amari Stoudemire Sean Kemp gotta throw a shout out to my dad, Marcus Johnson, too. We're going to get your ass in there, big fella. Woo, woo. Hell or high water, we're using Gills Arena as a platform to really elevate.

Let's go. But who's a player that you guys feel like deserves to be in the Hall of Fame? Okay, what is the criteria for Hall of Fame? That's the fucked up part about it. But I will say this. You said Joaquin Noah. But a couple, like defensive player to year what I'm saying is name name that like name like it's not NBA It's not an NBA Hall of Fame. No, so basketball Hall of Naismith basketball Hall of Fame

I think that's what a lot of people don't realize it's not just solely based on your NBA career You could take out like Monty Ginobili right one EuroLeague championships Italian League, Italian league MVPs in championships. That factors in as well. They take your high school, college, and professional career and use that as a barometer to kind of, but there's no real criteria. That's the whole thing. Some guys got in it because they were on championship teams, right, and maybe their stats weren't the best,

but they're winners, right, in people's eyes. Other, you know, strictly stats to get in. So there's not a real, can you take somebody like Jamal Crawford, multiple six man of the year awards, maybe not on the surface like, oh, this dude's a guaranteed Hall of Famer, but even somebody like Robert Ory,

which we've talked about, you got seven chips. Cap. Seven chips, Gil. Listen, Hall of Fame is like a, it's like a gang, right? It's like the cream of the top. What we all aspire to get to, it is the door, that green door in the sky.

Like the green jacket in the Masters. Right? The green jacket in the sky. Like the green jacket in the Masters. The green jacket in the Masters. Your fucking team success shouldn't have nothing to do with that door. 100%. You got five championships. Congratulations. Congratulations to you. That is amazing.

You can sit there at your house when you're doing interviews 30-30, 20 years from now, you got your five rings on. You can't be in that Door where there's a Michael Jordan and Larry Bird That you can't be in there with no fucking mediocre stats Like this is I don't know what the fuck that some some of these people shouldn't even be in it

I'm sorry. Because of the names that's in there. You're supposed to be an apex. You're supposed to... Hall of Fame should be the number one option or a great-ass number two. You're talking about you fourth, fifth, and longevity. Get the fuck out of here with that.

You're supposed to be apex. You're saying as a monster, you were considered a monster. You should be. Not considered, you are a monster. You are a monster. So is it more stats-based monsters or skill-based monsters? Your skill is what makes you a monster, but if you don't have enough years to get the stats, but your team success,

team success shouldn't have nothing to do with this. So it's like somebody like Robert Horry. Come on. Big shots. So you would be considered. I don't have enough years. That's what you just said. But as I said, it has to be at least six or seven years

before you can. But should you be, and this is the same thing that happened with my pops, right? Should you be punished for having injuries shorten your career? Because in a hypothetical world, let's say you didn't have those injuries, your peak would have been a lot longer. We don't, but we don't know that. But. No, we can look at James Harden, right? Yeah.

And we can see in his peak that big drop because he adjusted. Yeah. Right, so we can say, oh, 32, drop because he adjusted. Yeah. Right? So we can say, oh, 32? Oh, he going to average 32? 32? We can do that, but you can see it with the 22, 22, 21. So you can't really.

But game adjustment. But those weren't injuries. I know. So if he got injured there or his game stopped, you would have added all these extra years. And so you have to be able, like anything, there has to be a benchmark of games you play before you can even access. That's what makes the green jacket, right? All of it, all of it counts. So when you're talking about guys that are in the Hall of Fame, that are hiding behind team success and they don't have the individual stats to stand alone.

You have to be able to stand on your own. We should be able to do this. Take all the names off of the stats. Take all the rings off. You, by yourself,

should be able to stand proudly. And everybody know that you deserve it. You can be able to stand proudly versus, oh, I average 12 and eight. You're a two-time all-star in the Hall of Fame? The fuck? You're not even an all-NBA player in the Hall of Fame? Like, the best place on Earth? How? So, a Stephon Mulberry makes a case 20 and 8?

He should be able. 20 and 8? 10 years at least? Like, Mulberry should. As an individual player? Fuck yeah. Yes. But basketball is a team game, so let me throw a name out.

A guy, Draymond Green. I feel like Draymond Green will make the Hall of Fame based on what he's been able to do to contribute to the Warriors' success as a dynasty. But using your... My logic, okay, so my logic, for my Hall of Fame, he wouldn't be able to win. Okay, 100%. Because he wouldn't be able to stand on... He wouldn't be able to stand on his own. If you take his rings away,

that's how I, if I take your, if I take your rings away, take your name off yours. And when we push everybody up there, what does it look like? And who are you standing against? Who are you standing next to?

Like you got to put him next to Sean Kemp. No, you got to put him next to LeBron James. Like when, like when I, that's what I'm saying. When, when,

when we open up the hall of fame, you got to put him next to LeBron James Like when like when I'm not so I'm saying when when when we open up the Hall of Fame You got a witness Kareem. I do Jabbar that motherfucker There's will Chamberlain stats in there and Michael Jordan, you know, John stop that those stats are in there Yeah, that's not and some of these raggedy ass stats coming in time, about I got seven. Fuck your seven rings. I'm sorry. I don't give a shit if you was the sixth man and the fourth man and fifth. You wasn't the number one man. Right. You wasn't the number one. You were impact.

That is about, there should be two different Hall of Fame. Yep. Right? The runner-ups. Right? You know, like the extras. Honorable mention. The honorable mention.

It should be like the green jackets, then there's motherfucking gold. Real shit. There's gold. The gold. The gold. The gold selection. Yes. And then there's the Hall of Fame.

Yeah. Like Dwyane Wade, gold. Gold. Paul Gasol, selection. Selection. That's fair. For sure. Because to be honest, there was what?

One gold? Tony Parker would be... What about dirt? Yeah. Two golds. Gold. So you got two golds, two selects. Pop.

Gold. And Becky Hammond, I would probably put in that. Over here with them. Let me see. Yeah, we got to... Well, no, Becky might be gold. She could be gold. Does she do a lot with the WNBA?

Like, as far as points and being a monster Now you should she in there with Lisa Leslie. I mean that's a word in them six-time all-star two-time three-time all WNBA She's at one point of these no yeah, 50th anniversary team 20th anniversary team 25th anniversary over there Spanish League champions lack. Yep Gold medal black Lisa. Lisa is gold. Gold. Gold. Candice. Gold. Cheryl Swoops. Gold. Gold. Like, I mean, that's what I'm saying.

There's a gold standard. Like, there shouldn't be this. There's a gold standard, and then there's regular. Yep. That's fair. I mean, just like any club, there's a club, and then there's a VIP. And I'm telling you right now, if you pay to get in VIP, you're not VIP. But then there's...

VIP is the people that just walks the fuck in. They get the free bottle. There's a backside to when you go through the back. There's an extra shit. The niggas that go... That's the VIP. That's the VIP. VIP.

I learned about that in Miami during the Super Bowl. You pay an extra $40 to get in there. That ain't VIP. That ain't VIP. Just to get the band. I got't VIP. That ain't VIP. Just to get the band. I got the band. Miami Super Bowl, like 2007 at the Spock Mansion. But to your point, there was the entry level.

There was the VIP. Then behind the stage was a super VIP outfit. Me and my buddy Marcus Finagle, we didn't pay, but we didn't get in there officially. When the first advice happened, we then rolled back like, oh, shit, this is a whole other It's a whole different area. Right now, I'm VIP depending on what time I get there Like if I walk in around one, I probably not gonna get in there I'm walking there like 11. I'm definitely in GA you know this little Wayne section, but Hey, come on up in here, GA, you know. This Lil Wayne section, but if he come,

you're going to have to get the fuck up. I don't know how to post. When people tell you all to get there early, you can show up early and be VIP. But eventually, and there's still that doubt if the real niggas will show up. You're hilarious. So you are in.

Get my bottles. But then if they show up, you got to fuck. Yeah, get my bottles early. Girl, you better drink. Girl, you better drink. Girl, you better drink right now. We ain't going to be here too long. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. Got to talk about, so yesterday we talked about the Harden situation,

Harden and the Sixers perspective. But, you know, we got to keep this thing moving. So while James Harden is out in China slandering Maury and selling wine, I think we got the video. He's having a good-ass time out there. I will give him that. What was that? That club. He's having a good ass time out there. I will give him that What was that? That's that that that club? He's yeah, he's fired up that Chinese liquor. That's whoo. He's father We're gonna be chillin

With the hardened wine we got some here Is saying half a show I still love that. Yeah, he partying then. When he called Maury a liar, everybody was like, oh! Okay, we got some coffee too, but nonetheless. He had another all-white party. Art saw, I think, 10,000 bottles of that wine in five seconds. Shout out to the plug of the day. We had that wine advanced, hitting it delicious. He probably got that from one guy, too.

One guy purchased all of it. Bottles? you probably got that from one guy too god purchased all the shit one time oh no they bought they bottles i've never listen i've never seen bottles being bought until i went to china like i went in the club i mean you know they don't got no age limit do i say allegedly no they know allegedly money talks have you been to dubai different over there. It ain't money talk. These billionaire kids coming in there with their friends, 15 years old. Yeah, they're with the culture. Yeah, they just sitting there buying 100, 200 bottles, getting drunk.

They getting carried out. Like, oh, my God. Yeah, they dumb drunk. Dumb drunk. Just little kid. You just be sitting there like. Just a little ass in the house. I went over there.

I played with. 300, 400,000. Play the three, four hundred thousand. Played with a team in China, and one of the kids that owned the team, his dad was a billionaire. Yeah. Like 40 billion. He had at least six billion.

So he was literally on some, whatever you want, stay here, everything's on me. We come to Vegas. Want you to party with us. Shit. Shit, nigga. What's up? They don't give a fuck over there.

They turned up, but so Harden obviously talked about Moria earlier this week, so the Sixers are left with some tough decisions. Harden's reportedly just getting started, according to Ramona Schoenberg, and plans to make things very uncomfortable. This is what was dropped yesterday. But what effect will this situation have on the reigning MVP? At some point after the Harden story broke, Embiid hit the Sixers with an interesting response, removing processing from his Twitter bio and affiliates his location. Comes less than a month after

Embiid made these comments about his future in the league. Go. Yeah, go ahead. You got it. I just want to win a championship. You know, whatever it takes. I don't know where that's going to be, whether it's in Philly or, you know, anywhere else. You know, I just want to have a chance to accomplish that. I want to see what it feels like to win that first one, and then you can think about, you know, the next one. You know, it's not easy. But, you know, it takes more than, you know, one, two, three guys.

You know, got to have, you know, good people around you. And, you know, like myself, you know, every single day I work hard to, you know, be at that level so I can put you to make it happen. So he said Philly or somewhere else. He just wanted to win that trip. That's what he said. Listen, he sounds a little bit better than my tumbo did. I don't know what...

Is he speaking English? No. I don't know. No. Don't know. No, it's not like he's speaking Call of Duty or something. No, damn. Clear up your throat, my guy.

But how does this hardness situation... You've been here long enough to know how to speak English. You've been here long enough. How does this Harden situation impact MB's future with the team? And I'll just present you with these two situations. So we talked about Harden being disgruntled, allegedly according to Woj. Obviously, Kyrie wasn't feeling that.

So the team either has to trade him. Obviously, they're not getting the value that they're looking for. Or they could try to sit Harden. But either one of those two options is going to impact Embiid, because if you trade him, you don't get the good return, and now the Sixers are whacked, Embiid's going to want to dip. But if you bring Harden back and you just let him chill, wait on a trade, and the Sixers start out struggling this season, you now run the risk of Embiid being like, yo, fuck

this, get me out of here. Listen, Philly's good enough to win games without if Harden sits. I mean, you know, they are a good team. They do have great pieces around. So they can manage and get wins while they look for a trade, but why would I trade for a player that I can't see, right? I mean, we always talk about Philly. You got to think about the other teams too.

The other teams are sitting there accepting this product. So if I can't see the product, why would I want to buy it? Why would I want to spend? Why would I want to give you this for something I don't know what it looks like right now? So it's hard to move product that you you want a shelf Right so you're gonna have to either give it to me now Or you're gonna have the door fuck you season up because eventually you're gonna get desperate enough to make the move That's the problem and when you're talking about the product. It's like yeah, we can move the product

But just not at the price that you want I'm gonna get it for cheaper, or I'm just going to hold out and wait for it to get on discount and hit the clearance rack. You don't smell the bullshit? Y'all didn't smell the bullshit in that statement that DeJuel made? Him and James are colluding to get the fuck up out of there.

It smell like Brooklyn all over again. They both look like they about to figure out how to get the fuck up out of there and it's going to turn that shit into a graveyard. And if Daryl Morey can't figure it out before training camp, both of them niggas are going to be on some bullshit when the season starts. Like you say, they can probably play without James, but if Embiid ain't locked in, if you just being petty taking the process off and taking that shit off your your insta you know motherfuckers is watching and you know this is gonna be a big deal why do it if

you're not gonna follow through with it right so it wouldn't even make sense for them to even go into training camp not considering getting rid of both of these and find out who who could take them because now you're looking at a rebuilding stage. And then where the fuck is Embiid going to go? Where are niggas going to take him serious? Embiid's under contract to 26-27, but that, I believe, is a player option. So really, 26, he can flex.

But we saw KD with the Nets last year. I don't give a fuck about how many years I got left on this deal. Get me the fuck up out of here. Who is... Who can they trade both of them to? I got left on this day me to fuck up out of here who was Who can they trade both of them to Blockbuster you're gonna go in separate ways. They're gonna do the big five team trade But he gonna have to move them all around it seemed like the way they move and they both want to be together somewhere else

Did they play you I like James did like playing with him? He gonna get his tennis this like I don't know if James liked it because I think James still has something to prove. I think he's done it everyone else's way, and it ain't been successful for him. So I don't see him wanting to play with Embiid anymore. But didn't he just tweet he's time to get uncomfortable? Yeah. As far as an adjustment period for him, like, it's time for us to get uncomfortable to win the championship. If they wanted to dip together...

Clippers? Yeah, but you coming off of PG or Kawhi, obviously. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. I'm just, like, you know... I'll come off of... Zubox, you got to go. Zubox, you got to go.

Now, if I... I'll come off of Kawhi. And now do the Sixers want Kawhi. Does Westbrook, PG, James, and Embiid for Kawhi? I mean, probably James. I mean, I'm probably. James and PG got, I mean. Westbrook. I mean, I mean, Westbrook will probably go too.

You think so? I mean, shit, you probably have to come off. Yeah. PG and Kawhi, to be honest. You're going to let James play the point. You coming off PG and Kawhi for the reigning MVP? For the reigning MVP? And Eden Harden?

Yeah. Head up. That fucking round will make both teams better a little bit. Head up. I don't know. I'm just saying. I don't anticipate a world of Clippers. I don't know.

It's too many. With Maxie over there? Especially without really thinking of who has what. I think Philly turns into the Clippers, actually. Yeah. Philly turns into the Clippers. Might be good news for them. I mean, you talk Miami, but I don't think they'd have enough.

They don't have nothing. So, man. Memphis? Keep it moving. Nah. So, Harden reportedly wanted to go to the Clippers, but I think it opened that up. Now he's open to other opportunities. I mean, you could see a world where, you know,

you could try to make the move Harden for Dame. I just don't think Dame would want to go to the Sixers, but do they have no trade clauses? No. That'd be a great trade. One for one. But you figure out whatever the piece is around it.

But it makes, because Maxie plays, Dame and Maxie. You know, I'm just trying to, you know, I'm even thinking about the Dame situation,

which is kind of lingering. Multiple team trade. You get three or four of those teams involved. How do you make that move? But yeah, it just, I feel like the Sixers

are fucked right now because Harden, I think, was kind of instrumental getting Doc out of there. You got Maury. And ultimately, I think it's going to get

to a point where it's like, yo, one of them motherfuckers got to go. And if you're the Sixers, who do you prioritize, Maury or Embiid? If there ain't no trade calls,

just get them motherfuckers out of here. I'm getting rid of Maury. How many buckets is this motherfucker going to score? None he ain't going to score not one fucking why are we putting so much emphasis on upper management

they should be easy to replace I can find a motherfucker to read some stats and look at some shit it's hard for me to find people who can put the ball in a bucket so I'm not going to get rid of two guys for someone who's like, oh, I think we should select the fifth pick. Nah, fuck you.

I can get anybody to do that. He ain't no Bob Myers. He ain't been winning. He ain't really produced nothing when he's been making decisions. I'll be cut out. Ellen Brand, back to you. Real shit. Real shit. Ellen Brand is back to you.

Like, we see what he's done and it ain't been good. Real shit. Yeah. Why not? We ain't been good since he's came. Real shit. I don't see a world where Maury and Harden, you know, go and try to... That shit over. That shit over. Done, right? That's not... That's the rep room.

Maybe that's the... That might be the fucking pool hardest plan. Plan. Get rid of him. Get rid of him. Or me or him. Get rid of him. Me or him.

Get rid of him. And I think Embiid is probably backing him. Yep. And that's probably... Like I said, they colluding to make them make a decision. Because I don't like... I don't think Harden is really not that hell-bent on the money itself. It's the principle.

Yeah. Lie to me. You lie to me. It's the principle. So if he's a liar, I'll take the same amount of money, but I don't want him involved. Fuck him. CP said it too, though, right? CP didn't own record?

Hey, man, Daryl Morris is a fucking snake, man. Say he wasn't going to trade me? I mean, look, a snake, you can't do business, I don't know why, listen, you can't do business with a snake. I wouldn't even want that type of businessman in my organization, because at the end of the day, no matter how much money you think a person like that will save you, he's going to hurt you long run. Because just like now, you're going to lose players and players

and less players are going to want to come because of what you hear about them. So it does harm when you have a guy who's untrustworthy. How much of that is a part, you guys are both in the league, is a part of the business side of the game? How much do we talk off the business? I might not tell you that I'm trying to trade you, because if the shit don't go through, it's like Danny Ainge talking about trades that he wanted to make, some of the best

trades he wanted to make were the trades that didn't go through. I'm not going to put that in your ear now, just in case the shit don't work out, because I still need you locked in. And that's the fucked up part of the business side. We talk about loyalty, and for a lot of fans, they think loyalty is this two-way street. No! Like, fuck, like... Oh, you should be loyal to us in our cities like no i was i was in a position

to be loyal to minnesota because they picked up both my player options and i had bought a house and thinking that i was gonna be there long term and get a long-term deal and when i wasn't playing my last year contract year supposed to get showcased at least to be traded to a good team that would read me up. It was a situation where I had got the surgery, microfracture my second year, which kind of prompted me to be with the team because I used the team doctors.

Right. So it's like, I'm a trust the teams, blah, blah, but then the team doctor poked a hole in my knee. So a lot of things happened with Minnesota where I felt like they owed me But then I ended up asking for a trade because of the situation

I wasn't playing and Kevin McHale wasn't playing me on purpose So when I asked for the trade Glenn Taylor came to me and was like look we love you We're gonna get you somewhere where you know, you can play and all this stuff. Ended up sending me to Sacramento, which was the worst team in the league, and they did it because they did not give a fuck about me, personally, and the value that I could produce for them. They just wanted to get me out because now it's like,

well, we know he's not playing and we're not winning despite not playing him, so let's just make a move. And me thinking that I'm going to go to a team that's going to be beneficial, because I almost thought that I was stuck there for the rest of the year. We ended up making the trade at the end, and it was like, damn, man.

At least I'm starting new. At least I'm starting fresh, but damn, this fucking sack, you ain't giving me a chance to come out of this situation on top. So there is no loyalty when it comes to the business. And LeBron called it the National Business Association. It's no longer about basketball.

It ain't got shit to do with fucking loyalty or how much you like this person, that person. Just get it how you get it. I think for the fans at home, you got to understand, and you talk about this all the time, they always want to side against the millionaires and never really come at the billionaires, right? Because the billionaires are representative of what their franchise is. But a lot of times behind the scenes as players, some shady shit going on. And we don't know the facts of the situation, but we do know Harden's calling Maury a liar. That would lead us to believe that there was some type of deal in place.

We do know he took some bread off of his deal to help this team become better, and now when it's time to break some bread with me. Yeah, but that's why you can't really, like fans are fans, but until a fan really puts themselves in a position or put themselves in that situation at their own job. Yep, yep. Like fuck the NBA job, put it in your own job, and someone told you to take less money,

and you did it, and then they reneged on their deal. How would you feel? Right, that's the only way you can look at situations is put yourself in a situation in your space, and now you understand how a player feels. You just look at the money and say, oh, they're making all these millions. Stop crying hmm And you've been laid off before yeah, you you make 20 you make you know

$20 an hour versus someone who makes a dollar so to me to you somebody who don't have a job is looking at you Why? What you crying about? We train your ass to the offices. Think about that, don't think about that. You sitting there, you know, family just bought a house, yeah, yeah. Here's this track, man, get your shit. Get your shit.

And do you feel like the situation in Sacramento was better or worse than the Minnesota situation? It was because, you know- From an organizational standpoint? It's references though. You think about job references, when you go from one job to the next, the boss calls the boss. And they give you the whole resume breakdown. Organizationally, I could say it was better because it felt new. But it ended up being the same result of just some bullshit.

Because they're bad for a reason. When you go to an organization that's losing and you go there and you see how they're preparing, you see how the practices are formed, you see how the players are, you know, kind of getting along with each other or not getting along, you start to see it's like,

damn, I just left some shit like this. Let me survive. Let me put up some good, decent numbers to try to, you know, go into the summer, free agency to re-up with something but by the end of it you looking at it like shit, man. I Wonder how many other guys are dealing with the same type of shit every NBA team in an NBA franchise Right is that there's not every NBA team is not a hit be a franchise facts someacts. Some of these some of these organizations are ran like AAU. And you'd be like, you know,

you'd go from one team to another and be like from from Washington which we was doing our thing. I go to Orlando the fuck is this? Three meals a day chef Before get got pre meal after you didn't have to spend no money Wow they give you your they give you your vitamins in the

Sheer walk in. Hey, how you doing? Oh crack it back. Okay, but start like time to go like oh, this is heaven That's crazy. Right? But that's, you know, there's different levels. And you can see that. Looking at the teams, if you look at, like, teams that has never broken into the playoff runs and always up for the lottery picks, it's like, y'all niggas is there for a reason. So last question on this Embiid thing.

Let's just do a little roleplay If you guys had to put yourself in in B shoes How long would you give the Sixers before you tried to force away your way out of there? It all depends on what he's looking for I mean, I mean he has an MVP now So I think he don't really actually have any loyalty anything. No anymore. No. Yeah, I said off link Oh, you got the end. You got the MVP. So now you're like Now just in the championship. I got what Greeks got I got what Joker's got the cone now I need to go win those two one those two one that now I need to go find somewhere to win and I think that's

Where he's at. Yep, but is it, do I need to win here? Or do I just need to win? You need to win. Right. And we both know. For him, unless he gets traded out and win, if he asks for a trade, you know, they're going to use the, oh, you can do it in Philly. Yep. At the end of the day, who gives a fuck?

A ring is a ring. But you've been there now for close to a decade. You got the MVP. You ain't made it to the Eastern Conference Finals, right? Continually getting bounced in the second round. 10 games, 20 games, 30 games. I feel like if the team don't start out in a good spot... He out by trade deadline?

I'd say shit. Before Christmas, like, nigga... I'm thinking the same thing this history shows That the players get to a year 10 and they only want to MVP and he won a championship like Chuck Hey, I was at what year 10 by the time he got up out of there He had already won an MVP got close enough to win the championship and it's like man It's about that time to change change gears here Let me go over with Denver.

And they were talking about the Knicks and other potential dark horse. I think, you know, there's some light skin to do's up in Northern California

that could, shit, I mean, there's some places that he could try to force his way out of to get to that would have

the necessary pieces, resources. Yeah, he needed to. I wouldn't be particularly surprised seeing it happen. Change of scenery, that's championship quality. I mean, that's usually with all good players, even for Dame.

It's like Dame hasn't been around championship quality basketball, but he's played this type of basketball up until this point. So now it's like once you feel that, that's why Miami would be a great fit for him because they have what Dre was telling us, it's a whole different mentality to basketball compared to everywhere else in the league. And the same with Golden State. If Embiid go to Golden State, it's like, yo, he's going to feel a different type of energy

that is compared to Philly. And he not going to know how to adjust to that. It's like, shit. No, not to the city of Philly. We love y going to know how to adjust to that. It's like, shit. No, not to the city of Philly. We love y'all, okay? Don't come for us. We already, you know, had to ease tensions with Detroit. Trust the process.

Salt Lake City, you know, still in their feelings. Air still must be salt good. It's going to be interesting to see how this thing plays out because, like we said, now that Harden's in this spot, it's not even an issue so much for Harden. Now, if I'm in beats seeing all this shit go down, me and Harden are boys. Harden in my ear like, yo, this nigga said, now that Harden's in this spot, it's not even an issue so much for Harden. Now if I'm in beats, seeing all this shit go down, me and Harden are boys. Harden in my ear like, yo, this nigga said this, that, whatever. You sure this is where you want to be?

They have a better relationship than I imagine the organization. So it's going to be curious to see how this plays out. But now it's time for our last segment of the show. Mostly fans. We got to catch a flight, Gil. Yep. See, you didn a flight, Gil. Yep. See, you didn't even interrupt me. Fucking keep going.

Normally these situations, normally we have something to do. You want to fucking go till 2.30. He ready to go too. I got to go. If I got to go. He just stood up. I got to go. Okay, nigga, we're going to stay here till 2.30.

Usually he ain't got shit to do. He's like, man, we fucking got to go. Ain't got nothing to do but go upstairs. So first question comes from Robot Reese. That's his underdog username. You got $50. Robot Reese? Robot Reese.

Oh, shit, I've heard that name. Hey, welcome. Because there's a YouTuber by the name of Reese. Okay. And then Robot Reese usually fucks with him. Okay. Robot. So what was your favorite struggle meal while in college?

Damn, really? What's the struggle meal? Shit, mine was double cheeseburgers. Yeah. Double cheeseburgers. I could only afford this, that. No fries. No Sprite.

No. But we saved for the Coronas. I got Coronas and double cheeseburgers. Gil, how about yourself? Or were you even good? I don't know what college y'all went to. Arizona. Arizona. Listen, we ate at Tony Roma's

P.F. Chainz. Damn. I heard about y'all. It was Outback Steakhouse. I heard about y'all. Unlimited. Just go and... We had the Panda Express. Come on, you got that Panda? We had Panda Express, Borrow, Rubio's,

but we had the car, too, with the bread on it. So if we felt like being luxurious, we would just swipe out at the Panda to get the bread and go hit Fat Burger. Our lunch shit was trash, bro. Our lunch shit was trash. We didn't even have Subway or none of that shit. North Carolina?

Bro, trash. We used to go to the cafeteria and have to deal with whatever the fuck they were serving.. North Carolina? Bro, trash. We used to go to the cafeteria and have to deal with whatever the fuck they were serving. At North Carolina? At North Carolina. Try to sneak the food out.

Yes, per diem. All that shit was on some... Bartering with Gatorade. Niggas would clear out the Gatorade fridge every day. We didn't even have

drinks and shit to take from the... Y'all just had names. You know, we was actual rock stars. Yeah. Y'all live a different life over there. Yeah, we go to P.F. Chainz. Let's put it on the team credit card.

When Roy got there, he ended up... We'd be at Emma. He got some alumni to come in. Yeah. Change the locker room and all that. But before Roy got there, oh, man. All we had was the big-ass Gatorade fridge in the locker room and all that. But before Roy got there, oh man. All we had was the big-ass Gatorade fridge in the locker room, and that's what we bartered with

because niggas would have 100 Gatorades. I'll give you four Gatorades. You always had the Gatorades. We always had the Gatorades and shit. What do you go in there and get Gatorades and shit? Y'all was poor. Combos. Mixologists. Hungry at night. Making our own flavor. Y'all gotta find that article.

When I got drafted in the second round, I said I took a pay cut coming to the NBA. Oh, man. That's crazy. I said that. I was like, I'm taking a pay cut coming to the NBA. I got more money in school, goddamn. Yeah, that's serious. Shit.

So next question comes from an underdog username, Jose Santana. He said, who would be LeBron's perfect number two out of any player in NBA history? NBA history? LeBron's number two? Who would be the perfect number two for LeBron? To what? Win? Yeah.

I hope. Kyrie. Dwyane Wade. I mean, fuck if he won. Fuck if he won with. Fuckers he won with. Damn it. History, though.

I mean, Shaq. A perfect number two, though. Joker. Jordan. Jordan would be number two with LeBron. He don't need a big in the way. Move, Mike. Move, nigga.

He don't need another two-bar taking the ball. He like the ball, having the ball in his hand. Somebody who don't like having the ball in their hand. I mean. Is it a shooter? Ben Wallace. Klay? Oh.

T-Mac? Yeah, because T-Mac can catch a shoot. But T-Mac need the ball, too, on his isos. Yeah. Ray Allen? Who just wanted to catch a shoot? Like, Klay just wanted to his isos. Yeah. Ray Allen. Who just wanted to catch it? Like, Clay just wanted to catch his shoot. Yeah, Clay would be good.

Clay would be good. Two and a half dribbles and take this 50-piece. It would probably be a passing big. Chris Webber. Yeah, Chris Webber or Jokic. Jokic. Yeah, that would be a good one. Hold on. We got the quote. So, Gil, this is youokic. Jokic. Yeah, that would be a good one. Hold on.

We got the quote. So, Gil, this is you on being broke as a rookie. You're not good enough. I'm on a two-year deal. I have no money. It wasn't fun. I haven't said then. I wish I'd go back to college at Arizona.

I took a pay cut coming here. But y'all live the good. Every time we would pull Tucson y'all we would always play Arizona State first in Tempe Then drive the bus out so we get there right around the time We said on that little Marriott on campus gentle bands was coming out a lot of scenery a lot of If you want to know what kind of I had my car had five TVs for 12s damn At 18 Had a Lexus. Let's just lets you know what kind of... But y'all rent, like we were in L.A., Westwood.

Niggas had to share a room. No, I'm just... Behind the hypothetical, for people that were doing... But y'all get a one-bedroom on Tucson for like $200, $300 a month, if you were paying rent. Where did you get money to pay rent? What you mean? You had your scholarship check.

We had a scholarship check. Your Pell Grant. No, he was well off, so you didn't get no job. What you mean? You had your scholarship check. We had a scholarship check. Your Pell Grant. No, he was well off, so he didn't. Pell Grant came from the poor people. Yeah, that's like cash, right? $2,500. These are $2,500.

You could make that stretch. That was like $10,000, $20,000, right? No. Well, depending on the paperwork you did get with the FAFSA, you could... $20,000? That was under the table

with alumni money you were Pocket we was broke 10 good, but we will bind them told me the shit He told me he's like I should have never transferred to Georgia Tech and I don't know what I was thinking We were balling in Arizona. Yeah, I say for real all the rest on told me this I was like, yeah, we was right. They were right after me. So I heard a I heard a poor now They regular the neck back to the we got that. Listen, we got that Mike BB and miles Simon's experience Yeah, that's real because y'all y'all had the potential to keep making them run. That's why y'all You guys know to the eBay era, you know, you can take them shoes

No, look at the slam magazine me and me and take them shoes. Look at our slam magazine. No, look at the slam magazine. Me and Jason Gardner, look at our shoes compared to everybody else. We was different. Bro, we was coming off. We was treated like rock stars. I don't know what's going on with the rest of that team. But we were like, y'all, Eugene, because Oregon, they live good up there. They were getting it in.

Then there'd be like, we talked about last episode, Washington State, places like that. OK State. OK State. They were turned up. They was turned up. But we was coming off 8 and 20. So we was coming off not performing.

OK. So we wasn't getting no perks. No, no, no. I'm just now thinking about it, bruh. So you know we have an Arizona group chat. OK. So we in know, we have an Arizona group chat. Okay. So, we in there trying to brag. So, me just going, we're bragging, right?

And then the big fishes came in. They must have thought of my name. Oh, shit. Good old day. He said, Lexus? He said, man, we had rollies when I played, man. I had rollies. We had rollies when i played man i had a roll i had rollies we had rollies he said i was an nba player before i was nba player he said the phoenix sons couldn't do

better than me i was rolling up what i was rolling up with i said i had four cars in college man whitey mouse was different though yeah he was a different nigga like we I'm sitting reading like It's always one Everybody's like yeah, he was Getting that bag sadly you hear you said like you think that we yeah Not turn oh no it wouldn't pay the express flex and like that like jawad my flex Jason cable Maybe now you can't listen. I'm telling y'all if you make me a college coach It's a different time now

I'm telling you right now. I'm cheating cheating. I mean it's in IELTS deal right now, but I'm telling you I'm not playing fair My kids ain't starving I'm cheating. Cheating. I'm in this NILs deal right now, but I'm telling you, I'm not playing fair. My kids ain't starving. We ain't no McDonald's. We crazy as hell. I'm hungry. What the hell are we this university for? And we got alumni all around us. My kids better not ever go into a restaurant

and pay for food. You crazy as hell. I never got a part. Car dealership. I was upset nobody ever came. We were sitting at a Pac-10 tournament and an NCAA tournament. So Pac-10 tournament and an NCAA tournament. So a Pac-10 tournament,

all the teams stayed at the hotel together. So we'd have to sneak into other teams' fucking training tables. Like, oh, these niggas got the chicken. They got the good snack. Where the fuck is our shit at? We'd sit here eating fucking the whack shit, turkey-itis stout and shit.

Like, come on, dawg. We had a football player that came, Pete Hanson, right? He was the field goal blocker, right? And he came to the basketball team. He used to go back and brag. Yeah. He was like, the basketball team? Man, Tony Roman, like he just, he's, he's, like he's bringing food today.

Yeah. It was all bartering. It was balling, baby. The cool football niggas you rock with, exchanges, maybe some Haagen-Dazs bars every once in a while, don't get it snuck under the table. After the games, though, we wanted to stack. They fed us after the games. Yeah, we didn't get that. We got $10.

Good food. It was good food after the game. But you had to get a couple boxes for tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, because we ain't. I'm hungry. Wait, wait, wait. Y'all had pregame?

Y'all had pregame meal? We going to the restaurant. Yeah, day before we did the restaurant. Day before. On the road. We did on the road. We went to the restaurant on the road. Once conference started, we hit the restaurant, so we go to BJ's, and then niggas are eating good for three, four, five days.

Yeah, now, we going to the restaurant after the game. Oh, after the game? Yeah. Nobody wasn't eating that. Motherfucker was gone. Coach was gone before that got them game was even not but that's what said Arza said that we But I will give you laughing credit Steve Steve laughing on his way

I was taking niggas to Mastro's but just he wanted to go to him Harry can all in not actually y'all So stoles do yes Eric was my brother and that was like, you know They were going to Monty's like baller steakhouse overlooking Westwood getting a bit end up getting caught up But hair was a it was a real coach You know sorry coach you got caught up for a few things and you were a visionary way ahead of the NIO shit But last question for y'all this comes from a underdog user YSM money Who was the player growing up that you thought was better than you but didn't go as far?

Everybody but didn't go as far? Everybody. No, no. I didn't think he was better, but he was better than everybody. Shea Cotton. Grown-ass man. What was his game like? I don't remember.

Bully ball. Where did he play at? So it started at modern day, but bounced around a few spots. But it started as a freshman at modern day with Miles Simon and that whole crew. Miles Simon, I think, was a senior. They got as a freshman a modern day with my assignment that whole crew my son. I think was the senior They got smacked by Crenshaw shout out to my brother Chris But he's grown as man. Oh, he was like eighth grade. He was built built like you eighth grade hmm

Lefty can shoot jump. I mean he probably had was 40 44 six-inch Oh, no, he was... So, he was the LeBron before LeBron. Right. He was that dude. He was the number one player in the country.

He was on Sports Illustrated. He was... They had... When he was in the... As a freshman, they said if he was allowed to go in the draft, he'd be the number one pick.

It just... He ended up getting hurt, and they... Like, he was lifting with that, they had him on a program, right? Yeah. From eighth grade, they had a weight group, like, he lifted three times a day,

so, you know, I mean, you're... He was on some other... He was called the man-child. Yeah. Beast. Yeah, yeah. Older brother James went to Long Beach State playing the league for a little bit

with the Bulls and the Sonics, I think, but, you know... Then he made, then she make his name by windmilling on his brother in a camp? I heard something about that. Yeah, first play, windmill, play we know boom. There's a number one play in the country My brother the beast was I think a city player years junior year played modern-day senior year shades of freshman. It was like Yeah I respect I respect you little nigga. What's the question again?

Like so who was the player growing up that you thought was better than you but didn't go as far? I would probably say Will Solomon. Will Solomon. You see my iPad on my AirPod? I was about to say, I'm going to shoot this. He went to Clemson, averaged 20. I ended up playing with him in SAC my last year.

But he was supposed to be like the next little AI coming out of Clemson. Will Solomon. Can jump. Mm-hmm. Point guard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Long arm. Long arm.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was tough. He was tough. He could really hoop. Like, I thought he was like one of those guys that was gone come out and really be an impact but he ran into the coaching shit you know I'm saying the politics of it didn't get didn't get the opportunity there's a lot of them

though it's like I can't say necessarily better but you know guys like Keith Bogans I thought was gonna last longer Joe Forte Joe was my guy you know 40 was one of the one of the ones that just made bad decisions, bumping heads with coaches just like me. It's unfortunate. We only get to see those guys. Antoine Wright went to fucking New Jersey. He was with Texas A&M coming out. He was good. There's just a lot of guys in my class that were pretty solid, just never panned out. Wow, good times, fellas.

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