Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Talks Bucks, Lakers and The Return of Embiid

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

Gil's Arena Talks Bucks, Lakers and The Return of Embiid as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew break down the Bucks' BIG Win without Giannis and discuss if their 6 game winning streak makes them fo...r real of fugazi in the NBA Championship Race. They also react to Anthony Davis & D'Angelo Russell showing their true potential and carrying the Los Angeles Lakers to a crucial win over the Oklahoma City Thunder before discussing if Joel Embiid should return this season and make a run in the playoffs for the Philadelphia 76ers. Finally, they open up the group chat for a classic Gil's Arena debate on which NBA Era was better, the 2000s or the 2010s. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:05:22 Fastest 40 Time In NFL Combine History 0:08:41 Russell Wilson Released 0:18:46 Damian Lillard Carries The Bucks 0:22:15 D-Lo & AD Get Lakers A Big Win 0:40:57 How Frustrating In This Lakers Season? 0:44:56 Does AD Deserve More Hype for DPOY? 0:49:30 Coby White For Most Improved 0:53:02 Will CP3 Win A Championship? 0:56:27 Would Iverson Average 40ppg Debate (Part III) 1:07:45 2000's vs 2010's - What's The Best Era? 1:20:50 Rather Have Iverson Or Curry? 1:40:19 Should Embiid Return This Season?? 1:46:19 Jalen Brunson Injury Reaction 1:58:47 Josh Hart Tries To Snatch Mitchell's Chain 2:06:14 Gil's Arena Remembers The Old Days 2:09:49 Mostly Fans 2:16:46 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:50 or the locker room. Age is zero. Change can. Welcome Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy World. Woo! It's one of those days. Let's make it personal. What you got, Craig? You got a job interview after this? You creeping on it? You got a new arena?
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Starting point is 00:02:16 What's good, Gil? They said I gotta stall so they have enough time to put your name right there. So we stalling. Okay, okay, my bad. Seven seconds, bam. D'Antoni. We got Brandon Jennings back here with us Representing tough crowd as always To one hey, what's up with the crew? Yeah, they're dead in here today It's gonna be everybody get they dress up on go be a dead body
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Starting point is 00:03:01 You got to earn it. Calling all violations. So here's what's cracking in the arena today CP3 says he will win a ring before his career is done But is that fax or cap? Dame dropped 41 in the win over the Clippers without Giannis and the Bucks have won six straight games Gil but are they for real or Fugazi and Which decade was the better era of basketball? The 2000s or the 2010s?
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Starting point is 00:04:22 We've got a diverse crew here on this couch, very knowledgeable. And if you can't watch this show live with us on YouTube, we've got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast from. So yes, we are normally a basketball show. We're going to switch it up a little bit today. Talk a little football. So the NFL Combine is a place where bags can be secured or tricked off. But in the case of former Texas wide receiver Xavier Worthy, he secured his bag, setting a combine record by running a 4-2-1 40-yard dash. You see it. He know he about to get that bread right.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Worthy is slated to be a first-round pick in the NFL draft next month. How fast do y'all think y'all can run a 40? Yo, I don't know, but that nigga is flying, bro. Yo. Run into the work. Or run into the bag. Yeah, for sure. So he was already, you know, I got a high draft grade,
Starting point is 00:05:19 but that pretty much solidified him getting a first-round pick. So I got to ask you guys, you guys have made way more money than me in your professional basketball careers what was the moment wait hold wait did that got him what a big bag Gil for running straight well I don't get football you know I'm sorry I were to what you run straight and that's show me one clip in NFL for a right receiver he's gonna run straight he just runs Hill. Tyreek Hill. He just runs straight. He don't zigzag.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Can he catch the ball? Like, I'm trying to say, isn't there, like, why are they so hyped? Why do you lose money and gain money on a track and field event in Football Combine? Like, can you catch? Football player, can you answer that for us? Can you swing, swing? Football over there. There's a football nigga right here. Okay. Well, no right here. I play football
Starting point is 00:06:08 But I'm saying Johnson Tyreek Hill. No, no, no, no, no I don't want to talk about like a soul so who's saying boat can come in here and just I'm just saying like he played he actually played football You're you're you're just your speed Like what is this his route runs look like? What is this? He's also good when you are a receiver and you run that fast It's an added bonus to whatever you're doing in the draft cuz you already are receiver Yeah, which means you can catch think he led the big 12 receiving for the past three years You don't gotta do like even if he don't if his route running is poor the fact that he's fast
Starting point is 00:06:49 He gonna get off the line. He gonna go down the field. He gonna beat everybody down the field. Just throw it up What if you can't catch just say he can care. What if he has 2040 vision? I'm just trying to figure out but first of all, he got to get off the line. So what if you can't go out the line? So all that to figure out but first of all you got to get off the line so what if you can't go out the line it just makes an re heal no yeah sorry that's all we're gonna say the chair you know they think about I think about Tyreek you fast get him down a line throw it up he's quick like Tyree he'll is quick also which means he can change directions real fast I'm just trying to figure out like that speed looks great, but when you throw the ball, does it make, does it all come together? It's like picking your point guard because he can dribble really good.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Two ball dribbling, he's doing this, can you pass? Can you see the other players? Yeah, because we don't get a bag in our combine for like lifting or anything like that. Like I said, for having vertical jump. Yeah, like vertical jump. No, you don't like I said for having a who say we're older yeah like vertical jump like yeah you don't get drafted off his bird no he don't know you do we don't do not we don't I can show you a list right now of a bunch of 45 and 46 is that sitting in the G League and the D League and overseas from combine come on guys. Come on. Remember that Kevin Durant?
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah. Hall of Famer. Come on. He's seven foot. No, I'm just saying it's just weird that, like, it just doesn't make sense to me watching that. I'm watching a football combine, but it's all track and field events Like it's like you said Katie was benching like loco Right so I don't know just me it's like I get it, you know, you know like, you know for records
Starting point is 00:08:44 This is like a great record for himself, but I'm like, how does this boost something? So what bag did he get? Like, he got paid? I mean, he's going to as a result. Like, if you're like, if you're like, supposed to be like the 30th pick, and just because you ran fast, it drops you down to 10,
Starting point is 00:08:57 I don't know how that makes sense. I mean, why don't we try it? Because it's a, you're a prospect. What is his hands? How big is his hands? Like, I want to know all, like. He can catch it and do you it's up to you a prospect. What is his hands? How big is his hands? You're big. I want to know all Aspect is potential, but if you fast like this and we can teach you out running. No, you can't teach rowing Hussain boat. Thank you. You can't teach route running How do you learn route running if you can't teach it? I mean you can't teach
Starting point is 00:09:24 my god How do you learn route running if you can't teach it? I mean, you can't teach it. Like, either you have it or not. That's what I think. Like, Ocho Singo either. I can go out there and do a route right now. Brandon, so if you're not taught how to do routes, you mean you can just go do it? I can go do a route right now. You don't even know what routes to run?
Starting point is 00:09:39 I can go do a route right now. I'm the quarterback. Hey, Brandon, I need you to run this out up. You don't know what that means. How the hell are you going to run it? Just draw it on your finger. You go out and you go up. You go out and you go up.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I need you to go post. I need you to run this post corner. What are you going to do if you don't know where the post corner is? Just throw it. Run straight. Yeah, just throw it. Just go 99. We'll play that.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Go 99. It'll play that and go 99. It'd be great for Hail Mary. We're going to throw to Hail Mary. That's why you get him. This is the dude you throw to Hail Mary to. He's running a 4-2. He can run a 4-2. If I'm way back there, he's not going right, Pat. Hail Mary.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I just don't understand that football I just don't understand like that. The football is more There's more difficult than just running straight Like how often does someone just run like run straight, but it's a good indicator of his speed his bird Randy Moss who say well Randy Moss throw it up. You know why cuz he was like picture LeBron James What's this vertical for what is this vertical like Like, stuff like that, that matters to me. The speed, can you jump over people? Can you, like, if I just throw it up, do you have the Randy Moss? Do you have a 44, 40-centions vertical where you're jumping over everyone?
Starting point is 00:10:55 Like, that matters. DK Metcalf. Yeah, like, people like. Calvin Johnson. Those were guys who could jump, and they were big guys, right? So, think about LeBron. LeBron is playing receiver, and he run a 4-4, 4-5. He don't got to route run.
Starting point is 00:11:11 He don't got to do nothing. Just throw it up. But that's what I'm saying. Like, his speed is great, but can he jump? Like, I want to know all of it combined, right? You know, if he has a 32-inch vertical, but he's fast, that kind of, I don't know. His vertical, 41 inches, Gil. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Yeah. I like him. 10-yard split, 1.49. How tall is he? How tall is he? 6'1". He look like he's so small. 5'11".
Starting point is 00:11:33 Yeah, he's small. That's all good. Gil's football. Yeah, he's football. Football is good. But let's keep it moving. How big are the corners? Are they bigger guys?
Starting point is 00:11:43 It's like six foot max. Oh, the corners are small too? Yeah, they're small too. Oh, wow. They got to be at you. We're going to teach you football. We'll do the first annual Gills flag football game. That'd be hard.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Presented by Underdog Fans. That'd be hard. Who are we playing against? Darby Park. Man, I know football, man. I know football. Hike. Throw it.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Omaha. Hike. Throw it. Sack. Fourth in anything under 15 yards, go for it. Going for it. Madden style. So after Russell Wilson, they're going to Russell Wilson your ass. No, he's too small.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I'm going with Cam Newton. We're going to talk Russell Wilson in a second too. The only football movie we know is Little Giants. A great movie. The Icebox? Best movie, Icebox. Remember that? No. Remember the Titans, bro? Little Giants. Left side. The only football movie we know is little giants a great movie the ice box movie ice box Little giant left side The program movie the program saw the original version where they had a program and remember
Starting point is 00:12:40 Little giant little giants Strong side weak shot after Worth Titans. Strong side. Strong side. We strong. After Worthy's record-breaking dash, his mom got more than a dash of thirst when showing love to her son. So she tweeted, my son is the fastest guy in history of the NFL combine. Hashtag history man. That's his mama? Shout out Nikki Nicole. That's his mama?
Starting point is 00:13:03 Where your mom's at? Yeah, that's his mom We're your mom's Kids mom like that. That's the hand doing Once people saw her her Abby her super her mentions and quotes were in shambles. And they put it back up there. Yeah. Don't forget the underscore, Gil. Come on, chat. Get on up in there.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Come on, chat. Get on up in there. Yeah, I got her. On another subject. She must have blocked me already. Yeah, I got a damn. Yeah, another subject must block me already Man, that's funny. See Already done shot my shot All right, so don't say no names, but have you ever hollered at a mama whose son ended up being a player? in about a week is about to be uh
Starting point is 00:14:03 This mama right that player right there. We into the bag sir I'm sorry. I mean you can't be sitting up stuff like that man. You got you got the special do no we can't say We can't so ain't say no names, man Not me listen, I'm sorry man like you got a fine mama. I know is this hard on you It's hard on you man. It's difficult. There's some there's some scoundrels out here It is difficult So me summer on this very couch, I'll be like don't be talking shit in the comments boy. I know your mama Don't you do it? I will tell her to tell you yeah
Starting point is 00:14:46 Work related I'm... Work related. I'm about to watch football for sure. So, sticking with football, on Monday, the Broncos announced they will be releasing former Super Bowl champ nine-time Pro Bowl selection Russell Wilson at the start of the new league year on March 13th. Wilson signed a five-year, $242 million contract with the Broncos after getting traded from the Seahawks in the 2022 offseason. Struggled to work with Broncos head coach Sean Payton, was bent for the final two games of the season after being asked to rework his contract.
Starting point is 00:15:14 But the Broncos still own $39 million for this season. If you're Russell Wilson and you saw it through your head, are you still getting that 39? This is like when I got amnestied. This is like when I got amnestied, yeah. When that amnesty after that, oh yeah, after that lockout. 2011 with the Magic, I believe you had $62 million remaining. 66. Okay, hold on, let me correct it. Oh yeah, that's what, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:39 66. That's when you was in the gym, I remember you was in the gym. Yeah, getting paid. Right? Like you, like the gym. Yeah. Getting paid. Right? Everybody like, yeah, you got cut from this. First of all, relax. Right?
Starting point is 00:15:55 They let me go with pay. Let me just be honest. Right? 66 million to stay home and watch the game from your couch. Do you really think that I was trying to get a job? No. Honestly, no. Good, but we need you.
Starting point is 00:16:14 I don't need you at this point in time. When my contract ends, I'll holler at you. How do those checks come? Direct deposit or do they give you one of those big-ass checks? Direct deposit. I just want to give you a big check every first and 15th. Hey, hey, hey, hey. First and a 14. Ooh, early? Day early. Twice a month?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Twice a month, oh yeah, twice a month, nothing changed. And what they did too is they, the 66 I had, they cut it up. We did, what, three years left? They extended it, so I was getting paid all the way to 2016. So when people think I got blackballed no, sir, I was getting paid To not play that the one I did that very well. I was at the wild things
Starting point is 00:16:55 I was MVP and I was LeBron James From the couch, baby, just send records. I was sent all kind of records 10 million no games. That's me No minutes, that's me. I was uh, what's his name? Zero zero zero stats Tony Snell. I was a Tony snail. I Gilbert they talking about Gilbert come back to a training camp. You crazy. They saying you're the NBA Albert Haynes worth, Gil.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Also, Washington, D.C., right? Yeah. Yeah, he was with us. Yeah, he was with us. Yeah. You know, us D.C. guys know what we doing over there. Shout out Hussein Bone if you're watching the show. Please pull up.
Starting point is 00:17:46 All right, let's keep it moving. Basketball topics, the chat is clamoring for it. No, they not. I watched it. They laughing, all smiley emojis. Smiley emojis, fat jokes. He trying to transition us off. We got to keep you accountable.
Starting point is 00:18:00 We got to keep you accountable. Because when it's about 2-10, when it's 2-10 up here, y'all ready to go. I can sit here all day. Let's keep this thing accountable. Yeah. Yeah, you know. I'll be looking. Back to break start creeping up.
Starting point is 00:18:12 But let's get into a little bit of hibachi time. Oh, I love the mood lighting. Look at us having another good show. So the Bucks were without Giannis and Middleton as the Clippers came to town on the second night of a back-to-back. But it was Dame time. So the Clippers led by as much as 15 in the second half. But Dame time was right on time. And Lillard dropped 41 points, going 12 for 22 from the field, including four threes.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Bobby Portis came through with 28-16. Nice little move right there. Yeah, they were doing their thing while Giannis was spectating. So, Bobby Portis, like I said, 28-16. Bucks outscored the Clippers 40-25 in the fourth quarter to get their sixth straight win. Gil, they are 6-0 since the All-Star break. Stop.
Starting point is 00:19:04 With Doc Rivers as their head coach. Stop. Leading the squad. Stop. To a 6-0 post-All-Star game. Right, Gil. They are 6-0 since the All-Star break. Stop. With Doc Rivers as their head coach. Stop. Leading the squad. Stop. To a 6-0 post-All-Star game. Right, yep. 6-0. Undefeated. Have yet to suffer a loss. So this was Dame's third 40-point game this season. The Bucs are also 3-0 when Dame drops more than 40-piece.
Starting point is 00:19:20 So what does a game like this mean for Dame's confidence, and what should we expect from him for the rest of the season? Brandon, we'll start with you. You're our resident Bucs guy. I mean, no, it's always impressive when you get a win without your superstar, like Giannis. So to see the ball go in for Dame is going to be very, very important
Starting point is 00:19:39 because we're about to hit the West Coast road trip and take care of business. They're coming to L.A. soon, dude. And by the way, yo, a lot of that run came from Pat Bev, though. A lot on his defensive end and, you know, and all the energy that he's bringing. So a lot of that had to do with Pat Bev. Big pickup at the deadline.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Friend of the program. I'm just saying, since you've been talking, we ain't lost. Do you have some chirping? Man, the flippers flip. It's the flippers, bro. They flip like they normally do. I'm not giving no credit to the Bucs right now. Because they ain't beat.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Who have they actually beat? Chicago. The Minnesota Timberwolves, dude. Philadelphia. There's no NB'd in Philly right now. So you beat them too. And then you beat Charlotte twice. A gritty Charlotte Horton.
Starting point is 00:20:31 So let's talk about the Richard Dane. There was four sorry-ass teams. But no Giannis, no Middleton in this particular game. So you got two good wins. Don't tell me six. It was six bottom. No, we six and O. Yeah, we six. Six bottom feeders. Let't tell me six. We're six and oh. We're six and oh.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Six bottom feeders. Let's just be honest. Were we good? We could stay right there in the second spot. The same team that lost to Memphis right before the break. You come out and play Chicago, Charlotte. That was before the break. Everything happened.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Chicago, Charlotte, Charlotte. Philadelphia. Hey, Charlotte, Charlotte. Ooh. Philadelphia. Ooh. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Well, you know. Gritty squads. You know.
Starting point is 00:21:12 So, Rashad, what does a game like this mean for Dame's confidence? And what should we expect from him for the rest of the season? Well, I had him lower on the first quarter. Oh, so? And he had 15 in the first quarter. That was. So, it was pretty good for him. Disappoint quarter. Oh, so? And he had 15 in the first quarter. That was... So it was pretty good for him. Disappointing, though, for you.
Starting point is 00:21:29 But you had lower on Dame in the first quarter? First quarter, yeah. Without Giannis? Yeah. I just didn't expect, you know, I wanted him to start in the second quarter. Got better in the first. Start in the second. At least get seven.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Get seven is cool. 15 in the first is It's like, yeah, you're going to have one of them games. You didn't know Giannis wasn't there, right? Once I seen the seven, I was like, damn,
Starting point is 00:21:50 Giannis ain't there. Yeah. Not but, it's good. I mean, the Bucs, they need it. This is what he's
Starting point is 00:21:59 supposed to be doing. That's what I think. I think this is, that got to be his attitude coming out, especially against PG and Kawhi and how they didn't step up to the plate, I don't think, and guarding him the way they know they're supposed to. Especially PG knowing that that's a rivalry for him. I think that should have been a closer match game. Even though PG showed up to play
Starting point is 00:22:21 a little bit, he's given his team confidence. Bobby Porter's fed off him last night. That was a good thing. And just get him and Giannis on the same page. That's going to be important. What's it going to take for you to support the Bucs? They're 6-0 right now. They're coming to Cali.
Starting point is 00:22:43 They got the Warriors, Lakers, Clippers and Kings next four games. I mean, you know, this is the second half of the season, so we want to see when they're playing some actually good teams, let's really see what, you know, Doc has. Like, let's not pretend that they went into the All-Star break and
Starting point is 00:22:59 then they came out with this magical appeal of, I know how to coach. Right? You've played some bottom-feeding teams that you're supposed to beat. You should be on the seven-game winning streak because you should have beat Memphis. You lost to Memphis. Your whole team was on vacation.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Half your team was on vacation. Shit, where was fucking Memphis? Half their team was sitting on the side of the bench and in the stands. Gritty Memphis team. The test is coming up. West Coast trip, then come back. Let's see what you guys look like so we can really see who you are.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I don't want to hide behind 6-0, but four of those teams is not even playoff teams. I'm sorry. I'm not even going. If they would have went 3-3, 4-2, you would have been close. Yes. I already told you. He has no leverage with me. He has no.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I don't Do shits you came in on a team that was 30 and 13. I feel no sympathy for you, dude All right, you can go 20 and oh I'd like okay. They playing well But you know for the most part no you get snow you're the team remember you they've been worse since you've been there There's nothing you can do about that Right if you get back to second you still get no credit because that's where they were when you before you got there so you Don't get credit for getting them back to work. You know stop so good Not only were they 30 and 30 they went at them what huh if they wanted them with us cap What no, but if they wanted them what it can't be kept as a hypothetical question you know I know no no the cap is just even thinking over Boston it's not blasphemy
Starting point is 00:24:36 black over Boston yeah it's not blasphemy if the if the book I black If the Bucks win, that means COVID hit once again. Everybody got sick. Oh, my God. And the only people left. Oh, my God. Giannis got the Greek blood, so he didn't get affected. Oh, my God. And they go on and win.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Wow. There's no way in hell. The Greek blood. They got the Greek blood in them. Greco-Nigerian. They got that Greco-Nigerian blood, and he didn't get affected by the new COVID. Nah, there's only three teams that got a chance. There's only three teams that got a chance.
Starting point is 00:25:09 No, there's only two teams. Our producers want to remind you that the Lakers did win a championship in the cover year. That was the hardest championship in the NBA history. I don't think anybody remember that. In the bubble. No, we remember. All Lakers fans remember. All the producers are Bucs fans.
Starting point is 00:25:22 But the issue is this. Dame without Giannis, obviously it's Dame time again, right? Hey, Portland. The thing that needs to happen is them two together. That is the issue. Like, them two playing together and trying to figure out how they're going to be effective the last five minutes of the game. Dame having a team technically by himself, that's easy for him. He don't have to worry about doing the pick and roll with Giannis and giving Giannis the ball and all that.
Starting point is 00:25:58 He gets to really play his style, his game. He has all the shooters in the world. So this second half of the season is trying to figure out what him and Giannis are gonna be like. How can they be dominant together, not individually? Yeah. So Gil, as you pointed out, Bucks were 30 and 13. I said that. Yeah, but what you didn't say was that Doc Rivers was actually consulting with that
Starting point is 00:26:20 team, so he was very familiar with that squad when he took over. No, no, that makes it worse. That he was familiar with it. He knew the plays, he knew the players, he knew the system, he knew everything so when he came out with the 400 excuses like don't don't don't don't uh don't cry me a river. Don't Justin Timberlake me buddy. So but Doc has been improving as a coach after the game kill Please can I get through my room? No, I'm like new set we got parquet floors. Go
Starting point is 00:26:53 Come on you just can't do that. You got a warrant somebody you gonna start telling jokes like that I knew you was funny, but I didn't know you was this funny not funny good Merely a host. Okay, okay. Trying to do his job. Merely a host. After the game, talk about how Doc Rivers has incorporated more offensive sets that Dame used to run in Portland. It's helped a lot. I think for a significant part of the year, it was just trying to find my way, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:21 trying to find my spaces where I would have opportunity. And, you know, I just think because I played against Doc so many times in the West, and he had to scout against me. So when he came in, he was just like, you guys don't run this, you guys don't run that. This is stuff we hated to guard against you. And he just started to slowly put some of those actions in. And I think it's helped me kind of just settle in even more especially playing with some of the guys on this team that
Starting point is 00:27:52 can shoot the ball and having a guy like Giannis in the dunker behind the defense sometimes it's like the stuff that I've always run and the situations I've always been in should be even harder to deal with now with the players that I'm playing with Rashad I see your face right now And he's not getting his points offsets like that Once offsets like that, that's why it's weird like wait watch the game you give your shit off the regular shit Everybody else get they should all you ever had no dynamic sets to get that shit off. Simplicity.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah, that was in transition. When Giannis not there, he don't got the ball in transition like that. They giving the ball to Giannis in transition. Brandon, I see your face. Agree or disagree with what Rashad is saying? I just want Dame just to start the same way he's been when he started last game against the Clippers. Like, even when Giannis is there. Like, just start, just come out aggressive just the same way, even when he's there.
Starting point is 00:28:54 I just want him to come out aggressive just the same way every time. All that other stuff, let's just come out the same way you came out the other night. Every time. So, Gil, how important is it as a guard to have a coach calling your favorite plays? If you're a guard, you don't need the coach to call you a play because you got the ball. Yeah, I'm going to say that. I'm calling my favorite. You know, usually a coach is calling a play, and that play is for the team.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Right? Usually a coach is calling the play and that play is for the team. Yeah, right so You know it's it's you know, that's not like the old you know days where you know, they're calling sets Every time down the floor, you know right now it's more free play Alright pick and roll try to get an advantage You know what's funny is someone said it's it's technically the one for flat without anybody going flat Yeah, yeah, let's take a pick and roll and just spread it out and then take advantage of whoever's on you. Make it. So when you talk about Dame and the sets, he didn't put no sets in.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I'm sorry. I'm not even going. I'm not even going to just be fugazi on this. The sense was there's no Giannis here, do you? Right. You know, you're shooting 55 footer, shoot 55 footer. I got no, I can't sub got no I can't sub you I Can't serve you have I have no leverage right here. Go ahead. Do you um?
Starting point is 00:30:11 So there's no real Your favorite sets is that pick and roll and come off and shoot You know he was averaging 26 before doc got there ever since doc got there has been 21 really yeah He's dropped five points before this game. He dropped five points since Doc has been there. So I don't know what plays he's done put in that he'll be ease. I don't see no zippers. I don't see no fucking pistol plays, pick and roll with some double action
Starting point is 00:30:43 pass and flares and stuff. So you're doing the same plays we've seen you doing earlier. You just don't have the honest that the pass about you Facts so what I see well the Bucks need to play this way if they want Dame to be effective in the playoff Or what if they want Dame to be effective? This is Dame style Yeah, this is how Dane's been playing. People don't understand, just because you throw people together don't mean they're going to be cohesive. If anybody goes back to Steve Nash, Steve Nash was all-star, all-NBA player, played a pick and roll, Amari dashed everybody else out.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Then Shaq comes over. Now you have Shaq down there. So when they do the pick and roll, Amari's trying to roll, Shaq is in the way. No all-star that year for Nash. No all-NBA. Shaq leaves. All-star, all-NBA again. Sometimes
Starting point is 00:31:39 certain type of players affect how you play the game. Steve Nash can't run the pick and roll if he got to throw the ball to Shaq. So, same thing. Dane can't beat Dane if he has to give it to Giannis for Giannis to do the same thing he was going to do in the first place. So, if Giannis played back to the basket
Starting point is 00:31:56 and I can throw it down and cut off and do flares, yeah, but all I'm doing is a pick and roll to give it to you for you to, you know, do exactly what I was about to do anyway, try to get to the hoop, make some plays. So they're both doing the same job. It also plays into, like, all right, Bobby had 28, right? Mm-hmm. So who those points coming to if Giannis on the floor?
Starting point is 00:32:16 Like, who are the other alternative scorers when Giannis got to get his touches and his points? He going to get his rebounds, but then somebody's going to lose out. So if it's going to be Bobby, then you're losing that extra points to put you over the top of the Clippers. Bobby's not going to do his thing. No, he's not going to give you 28 like that. I mean, he wouldn't need to.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I mean, he'll give you, what, 15, 17? And then Giannis still got, huh? Maybe not even that. No, for sure. Because think about their offense and how they run their offense when Giannis is in the game. He needs the ball. He needs the ball.
Starting point is 00:32:50 So that's why Dame's scoring went down from 26 to 21 is because they started emphasizing getting the ball back to Giannis. Giannis' numbers went up. Triple doubles, all that type of shit. The game would be easier if they played two-man game, three-man game. Just because of those two,
Starting point is 00:33:09 they need to implement an offense just for them two. That's like, you know, pick and roll, let's flare, let's make some plays with just these two
Starting point is 00:33:19 because when you're talking about trying to win in the playoffs, I'm just going to be honest with you. You can't have Dame trying to do what he do then'm just going to be honest with you you can't have dame trying to do what he do then pass it back to yannis who's sitting at the three-point line yeah and then now yannis has to now try to go and try to catch his momentum to try to dive
Starting point is 00:33:35 in the lane the court is too small for that and that's why he has problems against miami right he has to be able to sit in the mid-post. Dame flies off. He don't get it. He can fake handoffs. One dribble, he's at the rim. It's hard to load up when you're already low. It's easy to load up when you're starting from the half court and the three-point line the whole time. But if you have Dame and Dame does a pick and roll, passes back to Lopez, throw it into Giannis, these two switch.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Now everybody's so focused on them. All you do is just take one dribble. Your year-old, you're're at the rim hard for them to load up. Who's their starting three? Chris Milton we need to start anything out 11 games Bobby Portis has been that's all right Yeah, so if they did a corner field pick and roll with the big lifted Brooke lifted Giannis Dame Beasley in the corner. How do you stop that? What ends up happening is Giannis rarely wants to roll all the way to the basket. Every time. And then Dame gets doubled a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:35 So he has to pitch ahead, throw it, and yeah. But they don't have those type of offenses no more. See, that would be the solution for me is like, Dame, come off, if they don't double you or they don't show and they flat showing, you got a free throw line jumper every fucking time or you got a three pointer at the top of the key. But then if they even do anything, Brooke, right there. You do the hockey assist. Boom, boom.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Yeah, you can Brooke. Like if they hard show you throw it to Brooke and he's rolling, catch that lob. That's what Miami, like with what was his name? Dreds, Miami, Brian. Brian Grant. Brian Grant. You're going old school. With Brian Grant, because Miami
Starting point is 00:35:15 whole thing was always, we don't care who they are, we're going to hard show them to, we're going to try to push them back to the half court. They're going to hard show and just stay with it. So what we do is we're going to fake it like we're about to come off and then just hurry up and throw it. You roll. Yep.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Every time. Every time. And then it forces you to take that roll, guy, if you're playing good defense. Yep. And you got to skip pass. Yeah, because Brian is running so hard that he's going to put himself out of position anyway. So we asked the chat, are the Bucks back? 54% said no.
Starting point is 00:35:49 No. That for real? Yeah. Oh. Yeah, you know this chat. I was about to cut the chat off. Like, hold on, man. You know this chat very well.
Starting point is 00:35:57 We still need Chris Middleton, so. Mm-hmm. And we'll see. If we can get Chris Middleton back, we'll be all right. We will see. Boy, dude. Some of us will be at Buccaneers. I'm just going to be honest.
Starting point is 00:36:06 I mean, listen, my team... What's your team this year? You're starting to sound like us, man. Delusional. You're starting to sound delusional, man. Oh, so you know the Lakers ain't shit? What? No.
Starting point is 00:36:18 So you know the Lakers ain't shit? You didn't have to use those words. You didn't have to use those words. We didn't throw dirt on your name like that My team got a better chance. Yeah, because that was the last coach That was the last coach What is your record since the new coach has been there? Yeah, since the all-star break No, no, no that was a y'all y'all like y'all read in front of shit Oh, yeah, she already in front of their. Yeah, y'all red in front of Chicago.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Red behind Chicago since your coach has been. So, Brandon, you brought up the Lakers. We weren't going to talk about them today, but since you mentioned them, I feel like we might as well. Shit. What do you mean? What? Say what? Y'all was lying.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Because you bossed them this year, right? Yeah. Okay. So, after getting benched for parts of the fourth quarter and the Lakers lost the Nuggets on Saturday, D'Angelo Russell bounced back against the top seeded Thunder on Monday. So D'Lo caught fire in the fourth. Hitting three straight threes in a little over a minute of game action. Yay!
Starting point is 00:37:16 Helped the Lakers seal the win. He ain't ice vane yet. Hit this one. Ooh, stop. Then it was heat check time. So D'Lo actually tried to pass the ball back to LeBron. LeBron said nay. Keep cooking.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Keep doing it. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. Ooh. And one. Boom. Come on, lady.
Starting point is 00:37:34 You got to call that. You know what time it is. You see it. The excitement. Oh, they called the foul. Mm-mm. Then they got a timeout. Oh. So Russell finished the game with the game. Then they got a timeout. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:45 So Russell finished the game with the game-high 26 points, 5 for 11 from 3. AD added 24 points, 12 boards, 3 blocks. Yeah. See, that's why I told you we shouldn't have made that trade. See, I'm smart. You're a smart man, dude. You got the checks, I will agree with whatever you say.
Starting point is 00:38:02 That's what I'm saying, baby. You are a smart man. Ice man. In the veins. So, Gil, we know how important LeBron and AD are to Lakers, You got the checks I will You are smart man, I swear so today So good, we know how important LeBron and ad are delay because behind point is D low to the Lakers playoff aspirations This season I mean to be honest D low has been probably the key Because you know, especially in today's game Majority of the offense is produced by guards, right? So there's always his opponent is is going to always be a guard
Starting point is 00:38:27 who can put the ball in the basket. So, you know, he doesn't have the room to just be a playmaker. He has to be a threat too. So, you know, when you're talking about what happened in Denver, you know, last year in the playoffs, you know, he has to take accountability that you just wasn't offensively aggressive, right? in Denver last year in the playoffs, he has to take accountability that you just wasn't offensively aggressive. You got Murray out here who's trying to score 20-something.
Starting point is 00:38:51 You have to match his production to give us an even shot at it. Rui and A.R., they're gonna do their thing. But when we were talking about that third, that guaranteed third person, that is you. So when he's playing like this, you can see we are unstoppable. Rashad, I know you're not a Lakers fan.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Yeah, no comment. I know you probably do not care. No comment. But you are paid to be here today. So no comment on... We don't need that negative negativity towards our ADN and D lobe and playing good since February since the threat. You know the clock clock was ticking. Yeah, that was a threat. That was the y'all niggas better start playing good or yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah, the niggas got their shit together quick, didn't they? Oh, shit. LeBron infamous hourglass week. Hey, they was talking to them two specifically. Y'all some niggas without me saying that. I don't think AD was ever in that time clock. I'm just saying. You can't get rid of time clock.
Starting point is 00:40:01 You can't get rid of time clock. 25 and 13, man. That man been putting in that work, man. He say, I got a clock in for this nigga. Clock me out, man. I don't want rid of it. You can't get rid of it. It's time for defense. 25 and 13, man. That man been putting in that work, man. He say, I got to clock in for this nigga. Clock me out, man. I don't want to clock out. Brandon, you are a Los Angelino, even if you don't necessarily roll with it. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:40:14 CPT. Why are you asking them about Lake Show? They don't know nothing about no Lake Show. I'm not going to watch the Lake Show. You don't know anything? I don't watch the Lake Show. Why are we doing this? Brandon, do like other talent on other shows.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Do a lie. Just pretend. You need the earpiece. You need the earpiece. They can tell about the season. Just look at the stat sheet. I'm going to have 26. That part.
Starting point is 00:40:32 That part. Let's keep moving. The Lakers. Both teams play hard. Lakers won the season series over the Thunder 3-1. Same with the Clippers. They won that series 3-1. 3-2 over the Suns.
Starting point is 00:40:43 And they split the season series with the Celtics. But Gil, for you, how frustrated is it seeing what the Lakers are capable of while watching them fight to even make the play? And I'm not going to say that, you know, I'm pretty sure it's frustrating for coaching, too, because, you know, you're in a
Starting point is 00:40:57 you're not in an ideal situation to be, you know, a new coach, right? This is a lot of pressure. I'm trying to be in a spotlight. No matter what your record is, you're going to be headlines. At first I used to blame Darvin Ham for our lineups, but the pressure is really high over here.
Starting point is 00:41:25 From that, it is frustrating because we do have the talent where we can make some noise. The fact that LeBron's still playing at a high level, Anthony Davis, we have good pieces, but we don't have wiggle room to not perform. We can't come out and not be ready mentally to play or, you know, what happened to Golden State,
Starting point is 00:41:50 that can happen to us every night. Yeah, for sure. You know, with some of the pieces we have on our team. It's hard out here, the other kids say. I feel bad for them. For who? The Lakers. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Why do you feel bad for the Lakers? It's a good Lake show, baby. It's good. It? You're crazy. Why you feel bad for the Lakers? You're a Lake Show, baby. It's good. It's all the anticipation. Lake Show. Man, unless the Lakers deal with this for years. Years.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Years. You hear that? It says Lake Show. Deal with what? Deal with the pressure. No, no. Not like this. What?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Since Matt... Not like this. Bro, listen. Since they was at the form. No, no, no. Not like this. Yeah. You got the greatest player of all time on your team. You're not gonna make the playoffs We go make the playoffs Not nice and they won't yes LeBron James
Starting point is 00:42:35 He said what the greatest player of all time, okay, I don't know what he's all but I don't know what he's all I don't know what he's all I don't know what he's all you get extra smoke That's some boy We What the hell We All-time really even the most two niggas out though Whatever whatever he say after this don't even worry about it Yeah Oh, yeah. Oh my lord. Did I make the playoffs? We making playoffs. You crazy. We're making playoffs. That's gonna be nasty. What's wrong with y'all?
Starting point is 00:43:47 Y'all gonna get a parade just for that. Y'all gonna finally get y'all a parade. We the Lake Show. Finally get y'all a parade. Because they gonna have time. Bro, we the Lake Show. Thank you. We the Lake Show, bro. 40,000. 40,000. We Lake Show. Woo! Means they gotta have us in the playoffs, Lord. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:04 I don't know what you think? We can have it out the Warriors they knew we've been in here some big big big business It's just what's gonna have to have a drama LeBron to get out to play and he gonna have to average 30 I'm in the play and who we playing on the play in again. You had to up his corn there in the man I'm gonna game one into it. Go ahead Tony brothers, right? Mm-hmm. He's gonna give random people text for just Right anything to get us extra points, baby, that's all Shit McCann's is gonna be a referee. Never mind. I already know how you know. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:44:49 LeBron James. LeBron James foul. See, girl, he's going to be like this. He's going to be like, I'm on the bench. Goddamn T-up, motherfucker. Just like that. T-U, LeBron. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:06 I know I can't be a ref. I'm going to be so petty, man. Petty king. I'll be so petty. Shoe strings, nigga. That's a motherfucking travel. Shoe strings all day. Tired of motherfucking shoe strings, you poop putt.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Oh, Lord. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Gil Zarina presented by Underdog fantasy Please download abuse promo code give and they will match your first deposit up to $100 and they're giving away a free pick up If you do it in a hurry, so it's like 80 a little bit 80 currently has the fifth best highest I don't know odds of winning defensive player the your fifth. It was right? Okay, see? I'm learning this game. He's behind right now. Gobert, Wimby, Jared Allen, and Bam. Wait, you said Gobert's one? Gobert currently? No.
Starting point is 00:45:51 We're underdog fantasy, so we're a fantasy company. We don't do wagers. But if you were taking your money and saying... I'm giving it to Wimby. Okay. I wouldn't. Gobert's second. I mean, Gobert has what?
Starting point is 00:46:05 Defensive players on his team. He has an ant man on his team. He has Conley on his team, right? He has McDaniels. So he has a great supporting cast defensively, which makes his job easier. Wimby has nothing. He has a bunch of young guys that's sitting there and he's making an impact defensively by himself He's like the Tony Allen when Tony Allen was on
Starting point is 00:46:30 Memphis right he's it's him that's causing this effect right a one-man show. So if I'm voting I'm voting women because he's single-handedly putting the defense and Keeping people from out of the lane Rudy has a whole bunch of help and he just gets to clean up stuff so what's his deep Rudy Rudy been by hotness for you years like how do they do the defensive thing no I know he's been doing that for years but I'm talking about this year yeah I get it but just does give it to them to the roof just
Starting point is 00:46:59 cuz cuz he's by there's your roof I don't know cuz he's averaging how many is it averaging how many blocks closer I believe four blocks so he's by there. Is he a rook? No, no, because he's averaging. How many blocks? Closer, I believe, four blocks. So he's averaging four blocks a game, and he is the only defensive player on that team. But Timberwolves, first in defensive efficiency. I know you don't like stats, but if that means anything to you, go there and get a huge reason for that.
Starting point is 00:47:19 And then think about when he was with Utah. They wasn't a good defensive team. He was two-time defensive player of the year. That was then. We're talking about today. Minnesota's number one in defense. He was two-time defensive player of the year. That was then. We're talking about today. Wait, Minnesota's number one in defense? Yeah. I mean, shit, they got four defensive players on the team.
Starting point is 00:47:29 It's going to be them or Boston. Nasri, too. Nasri, too. That's what I'm saying. Nasri. That's what I'm saying. It's like, how is he getting all this credit because of the team functionality of it? Because he's the guy that's the defensive player.
Starting point is 00:47:41 What was that defense when Wimby motherfucking gave his ass at Sham God? What about the defense? What about Wimby's defense when he got his ass dunked on? By who? Rudy. Let it go, Bear. Let it go, Bear. Up and under. Talking about boom on that ass. Talking about AD. Do y'all feel like AD
Starting point is 00:47:59 deserves more love than the defensive player to your room? Stop with number five. He's fifth. Do you agree with that, Gil? thought you don't like space between two people to Frenchmen Right between two Frenchmen right now. We don't need to talk about fine people four and three It's too late. We need to start just down it down to it's two people French French, right? Young French old French Right. This ain't even an American discussion right here But we should even have no vote right now as it is
Starting point is 00:48:28 It's Paris who y'all won't as your best defensive player if I'm the NBA I'll do cold defensive players make it to Frenchman. I'm gonna do the young one. Oh the older one dirty So let your nigga first play old nigga Okay, I mean I mean personally I will give it to Wendy, but I mean for the, I would give it to Wimpy. But, I mean, for the most part, AD being fifth, if you ain't one or two, then I don't want to talk about you. Okay. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Just making sure. I'm merely a host, a conduit, if you will, for Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop. So, let's talk a little bit about Kobe White, since we don't really talk Bulls on this show. People have been complaining. Bulls guard Kobe White made the most of his first season as a full-time starter. Dropped a career-high 37 points. Helped the Bulls overcome a 22-point deficit.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Oh, my Lord. Play that. Tar Heel on Tar Heel crime. He just made him do a 360 and then smash on him? Oh, my Lord. Where you go? One more time. Where did you go?
Starting point is 00:49:28 One more time. And in front of his friends and family. Oh, my Lord. God damn. I know. I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. Kobe White dropped career-high 37 points to help the Bulls overcome a 22-point deficit to get the win over the Kings in Sacramento. Kamar DeRozan also finished with 33, going 10 for 12 from the field, 11 for 12 from the free-throw line.
Starting point is 00:49:52 So, Kobe White's average at career highs in points, rebounds, and assists this season. Felt like it would be a good time just to give him some love. Most improved. Should be the most improved player. Most improved player. Got my vote. Got that zero on. And them zeros I hate killing.
Starting point is 00:50:08 That's a big time number. But is it for Gilbert Arenas or? I mean, I, you know. We're going to take credit for it. Got to. I mean, I got, you know, you start to fire it and, you know, Dame and Westbrook and, you know, they, they moving it forward, you know. But, yet and still, none of them ever pulled up to Gil's Arena presented by underdog fantasy
Starting point is 00:50:26 Wolf Wolf. Yed and Steele, did you say Yed and Steele? Yed and Steele. Man. Funny styling. That's crazy. You earned this man's number. But I mean, we gotta give credit to Rosen too, because what he's been doing for the
Starting point is 00:50:37 last two years, people wrote him off. When he left Toronto and went to Spurs. We're kind of like, eh, it's the end of him. But he's like, his last few years in Chicago has been crazy. Shout out to all the game winners. I mean. I'm still writing them off. Oh, all them game.
Starting point is 00:51:00 You know how many game winners that man hit in the Chicago Bulls jersey? I don't think we remember. I don't even think. If someone did a stat, remember only think he's actually If someone did a stat, I guarantee you he's probably behind Jordan And game winners and big shots Dot dot dot We just don't talk about it. I hear that off and write it off. Oh no over here And I ain't saying he ain't good, but it's just,
Starting point is 00:51:25 you need to go to another team already. I mean, yes. You get them niggas up out of there. Get to moving. It's becoming a graveyard out there in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Yeah, I mean, shit, 28, 24, and 23 in the last three years. Averaging? Yeah. I mean, that's to me, that's not even impressive numbers nowadays with the way that they're scoring the ball,
Starting point is 00:51:48 how many points a game every team is scoring. It's like, I was talking about this the other day, like, if you're averaging under 25 a game, it ain't really impressive. It's normal. 25 is normal? Normal. Damn.
Starting point is 00:52:00 They made it normal. It's normal now. So it's like if you're 27 or plus are you a guard? You putting in work like you getting numbers because bond is averaging what right now 27 25. I'm having 25 Man, that's normal and his normal number he walk out there do that shit in his sleep So it's like if you do Rose in somebody we consider somebody to eat. Are you supposed to be 28? Because KD, where he at?
Starting point is 00:52:26 28. 28.5, around there. He's elite shit. All right, well, let's keep it moving and shaking.
Starting point is 00:52:32 CP3, one of the greatest point guards in NBA history, but a ring has eluded him in his 19th season in the league with only one finals appearance back in 2021
Starting point is 00:52:41 with the Suns. CP3 pulled up to Dwayne Wade's The Y podcast and was asked if he would be satisfied with his career even if he never wins a ring. Will your career feel complete if you don't win a championship?
Starting point is 00:52:57 Straight up, even though I think... Straight up. No, no, I'm saying even though I think I'm going to win a championship before I'm done, I am... Yes, absolutely. You know, I can't even process not winning a championship right now. You know what I mean? That's literally how I'm built.
Starting point is 00:53:16 But I love what I've been able to do with my career. Absolutely. And I probably was a lot more stressed about that once upon a time, but it's crazy how things change. Life changes. My kids and my family is extremely important, but I don't know, man. It's just to still be able to play the game, right? Like, it's crazy here, year 19, but at year 12, something else might have been on my mind. At year 19 now, I'm in the locker room, and I'm trying to give my teammates, like, some of them, you know what I mean, just trying to tell them about perspective of this and not taking it for granted.
Starting point is 00:54:03 So, CP3, guaranteed first ballot, Hall of Famer. So, we'll start with the first question. Will CP3 win a ring in his career, fax or cap? Brandon? Well, I got to go first. Yeah, you know why. You know why you got to go first. I got to go first.
Starting point is 00:54:21 You know why. You know why you got to go first. You know why. Yeah, you first. I gotta go first. You know why. You know why you gotta go first. I didn't even... You know why. You know why. Yeah, you did. I knew he was gonna do it. I was just waiting for him to do it.
Starting point is 00:54:31 So I can say, you know why. Yes. I am merely a host. I don't know. I mean, Cap. Thank you. Okay. Why do you feel like it's Cap?
Starting point is 00:54:41 He still has a couple years left. Probably will not do it with the worries as we know. I mean, I don't know. I mean, got a better chance of seeing Jesus. Where are you going to ring? Shuttlesworth or Christ? Shuttlesworth. Okay. Okay. He got a better chance of touching the upper room. Rashad, CP3 will win a ring in his career facts or cap. Hmm Cap It's tough smooth sailing cap Cuz it ain't gonna be with the Warriors. This is very rational reasonable type. How many years he got left a Couple more facts
Starting point is 00:55:24 You don't want to ring you Couple more. Facts. You gonna win a ring, Gil? Yeah, you just go to whoever the best contender is in that moment of time and just sit on the roster. Right, he didn't say he had to win it being the man. Right. He just got to try to get a ring. So, you know, listen, I don't know if, I don't know if... I don't know if a ring... And this is the problem that I have, too, with some guys with rings
Starting point is 00:55:53 and why they're meaningless. We know where he is in his career, right? He's done what he's done in this game. There's no ring that puts him in this different door. Right? If he wins a ring right now, he would not be the number one, two, or three option on getting that ring. So for him to get a ring, you can't say, oh, because you have a ring, you get to unlock this door. When he was in his heyday, that's how you judge him.
Starting point is 00:56:26 You don't judge him because he's a wing winner, especially moving forward, right? I don't give a shit if it's three. If it's three coming off the bench, three coming off the bench averaging four and two, that's not rings for you, right? His career and what he did as a player, he's already sealed that, right?
Starting point is 00:56:44 He had to win that ring as a player, him being the number one option, him being the focal point of that, that's past. So a ring doesn't change where he stands in history. It doesn't do anything. If it makes him feel complete, that's on him. We don't know. But his completion, for me, he's already done that right you've taken mediocre talent
Starting point is 00:57:09 Most of your career and you made those teams better. They're the teams you had in New Orleans Those are horrible team you you made them great right when you came to the Clippers You made them a force when you went to New Orleans, right? You made them a team When you was with Houston, right, if you wouldn't have got hurt, man, right, y'all could have been in the championship that year. When you was in Phoenix and got them to the championship, you, as the focal point, you did your job, right? You know, no one can take that away from you.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Yo, do you feel like if he win it, it would feel like when Gary Payton won it with Miami? Like, kind of like, like, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's exactly what it is. When Gary Payton won it, Gary Payton wasn't that dude, right? And that's why when people talk about, you know, Gary Payton, it's not like they talk's why I know when people talk about you know Gary Payton is and there's not like they talk about like like oh, yeah, he got one at the you got one Yeah, yeah, that's what I said, it's one of those things at this point his career it's It's it's it's it's for you and your personal
Starting point is 00:58:26 You know accomplishment if that's something that you want to just check off, but it's not something that we know you get to define You know, it doesn't define your your career. I think that's our trip. We all choose to use when we talk about Legacies we don't talk about the legacy of your championship that you won down the line It's why you were the number one player like were you the champion when you were that guy? Cuz everybody who was that guy and was champions we show that part you talk about mike talk about cole talk about shaq talk about uh all the other champions tim duncan those guys you like you compare tim duncan and kg kg didn't get that chip in his prime he was that guy for minnesota He had to go team up and become a utility guy.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Tim Duncan, I'm that guy five straight years. So it's like, you look at the legacies, it's no comparison when it comes to that. But when you just add a chip, it's like Mello never got that chip. But you can't say that he ain't a bad motherfucker because he didn't get the chip. Because during his time where he had an opportunity he was dealing with some other shit hey wait you don't think kg was in his prime when he got that ring and ball no you don't think he was still kg no they went they went back like they were he wasn't that I mean he he was kg but it was still meaningful like yeah I mean he was a fact like
Starting point is 00:59:46 No, I guess I was 19 and 9 that season. It wasn't like he went back to Minnesota He's like yeah, he got one 31 years old at that Boston. He was still in there. Yeah, okay, so like they're gonna make like Okay, so like you see like John Stockton right John Stockton Nash and Chris Paul Three of them don't have a ring Whatever they are right now, whatever order you have them in is the order you have them in.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Chris Paul winning the championship doesn't change the order wherever you have them, right? Because they don't have them. You can't say, well, he won a ring. This is where you put him now. The ring at this moment in time doesn't change unless he averages
Starting point is 01:00:24 15 and nine that year. Giving him a ring does not put him over or wherever. You can't use that. Right. So like, oh, John Stockton didn't win it. Chris Paul got a ring and that just boosts him over John Stockton because of the ring right now. Right. This ring is not.
Starting point is 01:00:41 It doesn't dictate your career. If he go out there and. He has to be a dominant factor in that ring season. But KG in that 2008 year, first team all NBA, on offense, defense player of the year that year. So, you know, the numbers were down a little bit, but that metric y'all just use. Don't say, hold on. Don't say Gil and Rashad is tripping on KG.
Starting point is 01:01:06 He made the statement. I didn't say shit yet. Yeah, I said it. I said it. He said it. I didn't say nothing yet. I said it. What?
Starting point is 01:01:11 He's 31. He was 31. But look. Yeah, that's his prime. I mean, that's KG. Yeah, that's prime. That's not prime. 31?
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yeah, what actual age is prime? Like 28? Like 28 to 30? He went on to play another eight more years, retired at 39. 39. But, you know. Came in at 19. After, I think, the 2013-14.
Starting point is 01:01:32 So 2012-2013 was his last solid year. I think he had 15 and 8. I want 27 to 30. Like 27 to 30. 27 to 31 is like your prime. Like 22. Yeah, 27 to 31. Like that 27 to 32 is like your prime.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Okay, okay, okay. But it feels like it's changed now. I mean, especially with the guys that we're seeing now with the prime. Okay, but it feels like I think now I mean, especially with the guys that we're seeing now with the KD's the Steph's and LeBron's Like you could argue. Yeah, like they still wrong prime actually But to which I was just saying about the point guards those three point guards, right? But I throw Zeke in there and I say Zeke won two championships in his prime against Elite talent. And then you got J.Kid, who didn't, ended up winning one.
Starting point is 01:02:11 But we always judge those metrics based on abilities, performances, and era. So you look at Steve Nash, John Stockton, and then Chris Paul, right? Comparing to Jason Kidd and Isaiah Thomas, I'm putting Isaiah Thomas in front of all of them, and then it's a toss-up from there just because we're not going to consider rings to be an element. But at the same time, if you're looking at KG, you're looking at all these other guys, it's like if you had to go somewhere else to win your chip.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Like even with Jason Kidd. Jason Kidd, when he won a chip, it didn't push him in front of anybody. It didn't and it wouldn't have because you see who he won it with. They had a stacked team. Yeah, it doesn't. It was like the Gary Payton Championship. Yeah, same shit. So when it comes to CP3 winning a ring in his career... Stop the cap! What is your vote? Gil, I'm merely host.
Starting point is 01:03:05 You always say that when you don't want to fucking comment on some shit. But you stay commenting on some shit. Because you can make it 50-50. I mean, you can make it 50-50 by saying facts. Will he win with the Warriors? No, we didn't say Warriors. Just win. My point, unlikely.
Starting point is 01:03:20 But if he was able to go to another contender, ring chase for those last couple seasons. Yes, I think very possible 5050 so 50 so change it Almost said a word that would mean that he lost him because it was me and you against him It was nothing as you know my boat. He needed your vote right there We never have 5050 around here here. A host has no name. We never have a stale mate.
Starting point is 01:03:47 A stale mate. So now it's time to get into it. Y'all know we love a good debate on this show. So we're bringing one that jumped off in the group chat
Starting point is 01:03:54 to y'all about which decade was better. The 2000s or the 2010s? Where was I at? Because that wasn't the debate.
Starting point is 01:04:02 That wasn't the debate. The debate was would Allen Iverson average 40 today? That was the debate. Now, Brandon also posted- Because he had to. He had to bring that other shit in. He said y'all-
Starting point is 01:04:13 Because he couldn't prove that. Y'all era wasn't shit. But quickly, Rashad, would Allen Iverson average 40 in this modern NBA? Without no fucking doubt. Wow. Done them numbers. That's it? Did my stats.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Okay. Did my stats. Mm them numbers. That's it? Did my stats. Okay. Did my stats. Allen Iverson playing against Hall of Fame centers from 96 to 2010. Incredible. He averaged 40 against all of them. Then you look at his numbers. Shot the ball 22 times per game. Today he would be shooting about 25 at least.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Shot 43% from the field. Seeing that they don't play no fucking defense today, he would probably shoot about 45%. Okay. Right? He only shot four threes a game. He would shoot more, obviously, in this era. Right? He made one.
Starting point is 01:05:02 It was one for four. Right? So, I'm giving him. He shoot 10. He shoot 10 threes. He make three. Okay. So that's nine points, right? He shot, he shot nine free throws a game back then. Think it goes up? It goes up, right? Give him four more, let's give him four more, four more from the free throw line. Yeah, what did James Harden average 26? 36 36 MSR James Harden average 36 anymore. Yeah, okay, so doing those numbers Effective hold on be a I was gonna be more effective. Hold on be let me finish be the whole James Harden
Starting point is 01:05:44 Hey, I was gonna be more effective than James Harden. Let me finish be you know how many times James Harden Dribbled the ball before he took every shot? Huh? Michael Jordan didn't even average 40. Let me finish, B. Michael Jordan did it. Can I finish? Go ahead.
Starting point is 01:05:52 I knew you was going to do all this. Go ahead. This Michael Jordan is moving. You and Gil moved the goalposts with y'all. No, we ain't. Okay? I'm just saying what I'm used to.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Historically. So, Allen Iverson averaged 27 points a game for his career. You add two more threes, four more free throws. With 45% from the field, he's going to average at least 42. And he's playing 41 minutes a game. The usage rate right now is 37 total minutes per game. He's averaging 41. There's only one person
Starting point is 01:06:28 in NBA history to average 40. I hear you. I hear you saying that. Michael Jordan averaged 38 and you don't think... Today's game. What do you think Michael Jordan averaged? What do you think? Like 50. Okay, so Allen Iverson would average 40.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Nigga, what is you saying? You would average 40. I don't think so. Nigga, what is you saying? You proving me right. I don't think so. What you talking about? I just gave you all the stats. I don't think. Just gave you all the stats. Because James Harden never averaged 40.
Starting point is 01:06:53 So what? James Harden is not Allen Iverson. James Harden averaged 35. He's not Allen Iverson. And then the way they play today, I just think his game would, it would translate. Like, he would average more assists. No, he wouldn't. He's shooting the ball more.
Starting point is 01:07:08 The game is different today. The game is different today. I just told you, he's shooting 10 threes a game. First of all, what team is he playing on today? It don't matter. Oh, no. No, it do matter. What difference does it matter?
Starting point is 01:07:19 It do matter. What does it matter? It does matter. Who do we play for? Orlando? Who do you want him to play for? Orlando. Orlando probably average 35. He's not averaging 40. You want to average who who does I love a
Starting point is 01:07:28 I love a I know a I was going I love a I but he's not ever you know Who a I was going up against the top sinners of all time. That's fine, but I average in 40 Yeah, I don't think how many of y'all how many your error? How many of your era sinners are in a Hall of Fame? from 2010 to now? 2010 to now. They average over three blocks a game. None of them. They wouldn't be in the Hall of Fame right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:54 They're still playing. Does this change it? Allen Iverson dribbled 120 dribbles per game, averaging 31. James Harden averaged 449 dribbles per game. Come on, man. He don't want to do that. He don't want to do them numbers.
Starting point is 01:08:11 He don't want to do them numbers. So Houston James Harden playing today would average 40. What I'm saying is the Houston James Harden, he's taking 449 dribbles per game. I don't care about that.
Starting point is 01:08:23 I'm getting 40. Of course you don't care about that, Brad. Of course you don't care about that, Brad. Of course you don't. You're a young nigga. You're a young nigga. Process to see. Process to see. Think about what I'm saying. 449 dribbles. So, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. Averaging 36. Allen Iverson, 31. Averaging 125 dribbles. On what type of shooting percentage?
Starting point is 01:08:46 43. What I'm saying is he's not dribbling the ball. He's getting and going and scoring. So think about how many more possessions Allen Iverson will have in today's game compared to... Lucas averaging 446 dribbles. Allen Iverson didn't dri's the way they get it. Allen Iverson didn't dribble the ball. Get it?
Starting point is 01:09:06 I'm going. Foul. He will shoot the, every possession, he will shoot the ball. Like, think about what I'm saying is, how many times does Allen Iverson get the ball to even have 400 dribbles? He's averaging 31 on 120-something dribbles. Now, if he gets to dribble the ball 400 times, that means he's going to be double or triple the shots attempts.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I hear all that. If he's averaging 31 on 120 dribbles, imagine if you gave him 400 dribbles. He can have 400. He's not averaging 40. What do you mean? He's not averaging 40. I don't give a fuck about the dribbles.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Fuck the dribbles. Nigga, you're just not averaging 40. KD didn't even average 40. I don't give a fuck about the dribbles. Fuck the dribbles, nigga. You're just not averaging. That's what he does. KD? KD can't even. KD didn't even average 40. Michael Jordan don't even. You know what the dribble is.
Starting point is 01:09:51 What the fuck? That means James Harden is wasting dribbles dribbling the ball. Think about it. If I'm sitting here. I average 36. If I'm sitting here. Do-do. Do-do.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Do-do. Has he ever averaged 35? 33. Has he ever averaged 35? 33. 33. Okay, that's not... James averaged 35 and what? But think of what I'm saying. He's spending...
Starting point is 01:10:13 If he's spending 14 seconds to dribble the ball between every possession and he averaged 36 on that style, what if we said James Harden just take 5 seconds every dribble? Don't take 14 seconds
Starting point is 01:10:30 on every dribble. Take 5 seconds on every dribble. What would he have averaged? 40-something, right? That's what we're saying. He's not doing that, no. If James Harden didn't take 14 dribbles to set up and he just said, alright, I'm going to get buckets.
Starting point is 01:10:45 He will have averaged 40 fucking points. You guys are talking about dribbling. I'm just talking about game. I'm just talking about game. I'm just talking about game. James Harden shot 13 threes a game. I just don't think Allen Iverson will average. First of all, I just said 43.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Brandon. I don't think Allen Iverson is averaging 43 today. Brandon. That's all. The way the game is played, he's not averaging 43 today. 13 threes, James Harden shot. 13 threes. Allen Iverson shot four.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Four. We have some of the greatest scores today. I just gave you the stats on him averaging 42 a game. That's fine. That's fine. What I'm telling you is today, the way the game is played today, he is not averaging 40. The way the game is played today. That's because you're still on the porch sitting as a kid.
Starting point is 01:11:24 Now, his assists will be high. You got the sippy cup. Other things, he'll be great at his assists and stuff. You got the sippy played today. That's because you're still on the porch sitting as a kid. Now his assist will be high. You got the sippy cup on the porch and you're like this. I refuse to let these old niggas be right. We understand. The sippy cup is sitting there on the porch and you it has everything to do with it. It has everything to do with it.
Starting point is 01:11:40 It does. It doesn't. He won't average 40. Because you can't prove it. All you can say is he won't average 40. Prove it. He won't. It does. It doesn't. He won't average 40. Because you can't prove it. All you can do is say. I just said he won't average 40. All you can say is he won't do it. He won't average 40. Prove it. He won't. Back it up.
Starting point is 01:11:48 The way the game is played. Give me some metrics to back it up. The way the game is played. Give me some metrics to back it up. The way people are passing. Okay, what I'm saying is, Allen Iverson was like you, right? More of, I'm just going to go score the ball, right? So if you put him in today's
Starting point is 01:12:08 game, and we take your style, quick buckets, not, I'm going to sit here, probe, bounce, get the switch, bounce, boom, set him up, set him up, set him, think about how James Harden plays, set him up, set him up, set him up, this, step back, got it,
Starting point is 01:12:24 step back, before every shot. Allen Iverson would have shot the ball three times before he got the one off. Period. Is what I'm saying. You would have shot the ball three times before the one shot. So with Allen Iverson's style, he's getting three to one.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Worst case scenario, he's getting two shots to James Harden's one shot. So if we said, all right, James, we're going to cut your dribbles in half, and you take the same amount of shots, how many more possessions does James Harden get? Think about what I'm saying. Take away the 46 dribbles, how many more possessions does he get to shoot the ball versus dribble the ball? See, James Harden loses 15 shot attempts just by dribbling the ball. So if we say, hey, fuck that, give me 15 more shots.
Starting point is 01:13:16 How many more points does James Harden average that year? He averaged 36. I said the way James Harden plays, if he take away four dribbles per possession, he would get 10 more attempts up. That alone gets him to 40. So James Harden would have averaged 40. The year he averaged 36, James Harden would have averaged 41 if he took away half his dribbles.
Starting point is 01:13:39 You don't think he was trying to average 40? No! He dribbled too much. Yes, he was. He dribbled too much. He dribbled too much. He was trying to average for you think Mike was right everybody was trying to act It's only one nigga in the league that averaged 40 One person about this will think about what a person what they would have now all of a sudden everybody could just play You know what I'm saying? He's trolling. That's a subject matter. I'm not trolling. I'm not trolling. He's just... I'm not trolling.
Starting point is 01:14:05 You're not backing it up. Back it up, Brandon. You don't think Kobe... All you doing is throwing names out there. You don't think these niggas are playing. All you doing is throwing names out there, Brandon. And they couldn't do it. We're talking about...
Starting point is 01:14:15 They averaged that in the era with a slow basketball game. Right? These guys are to one. One on one. Right? So you're telling me this right here. I get to sit here and play with the game all day before I get a shot up. Allen Iverson would have came, scored, came back and scored
Starting point is 01:14:31 by the time I got this shot off. Everybody on the court is 6'6 and up. It don't matter. What that have to do with anything? I just think the defense, the way the game. I just told you who he was scoring against. I just told you he was scoring against all the same centers. Look how many times he dribbles the ball. Allen Iverson averaged 31 with 125 dribbles.
Starting point is 01:14:52 So that means he doesn't take his time just dribbling the ball pointless. And that doesn't mean he's making the shots, though, either. He's scoring. You're just talking about more, but Allen, I mean, they're going in. First of all, what they're saying is Allen Iverson would have shot the ball 32 times a game. 32 times a game from 22 to 32. And that shooting percentage is what? 41 minutes a game.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Are they winning? Are they winning? Winning? You moving the goalposts out. He said, are they winning? Everything matters. He said, are they winning? First of all, who's going to sit up here and watch a nigga score 40, 36%?
Starting point is 01:15:20 The topic is, the topic is, Brandon. Y'all would have been killing that nigga today. Y'all would have been killing AI today. The topic is, is he winning? Come on, man. Y'all would have been killing AI today. The'all would've been killing AI today Y'all would've been killing AI today This is bad basketball He's 440 soon 36 Y'all would've been trying to kill AI Stop that shit man
Starting point is 01:15:34 What he wanted to talk about is he winning now That's how moving the goalposts Y'all would've not been letting that happen We asked the chat again Would average and average 65% said yes But let's get back to the topic at hand if they say 5% But let's get back my topic and over to 65 No, I need him to know don't ever challenge me and no shit like
Starting point is 01:15:57 What you don't got no metrics no nothing behind it. All you just gonna say is well James Harden did it? Well, what's up? such didn't do it. I don't want to hear that shit. They can prove it. No, no, no. They can prove it. If Embiid played 40 minutes a game, he would average 40. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:16:12 Because he don't dribble the ball. But how many games would he play? What I'm saying is fake, fake shot. What I'm saying is, no, but what I'm saying is Embiid today. If Embiid played 42 minutes today, because he doesn't waste his time dribbling the ball a hundred times He will score 40 points a game, but how many games would he actually play? You know, I thought it was meaningless meaningless meaningless and we talking about Allen Iverson And how many games he gonna play he gonna play all the games all the games
Starting point is 01:16:41 Do you not remember Allen Iverson the toughest motherfucker ever played? To do what? All the games. All the games. Do you not remember Alan Arvidsson? The toughest motherfucker ever played? How many points does LeBron need? To do what? To do what? Hm? Y'all ain't gonna finish? Yeah, we done. Oh.
Starting point is 01:16:53 Dead body. Alright, so let's talk about the topic at hand that started in the group chat. Ladies and gentlemen, another spirited debate on Gil's Arena presented by underdog fantasy Woof Woof. But we talked about who had the better decade, the 2000 to 2010. So first let's look at the all decade team from the 2000s. This is according to NBA.com. Not me.
Starting point is 01:17:11 You know I merely host. Oh, that's 2000. We got Steven Ash, Derrick, Tim, Shaq, Jason Kidd, Allen Iverson, LeBron, Kevin, Ben Wallace, Chauncey Billups, Dwyane Wade, Paul Pierce, Tracy McGrady, Amari Stoudemire. With honorable mentions, Vince Carter, Ray Allen. Wait, this is from 2000 to 2009? This is like basically 01 to 2009, if I'm not mistaken. Who did this?
Starting point is 01:17:35 This is according to NBA.com. They released all decade team. This is just to get the conversation started. This is not stamped in gold or anything like that. But Gil, your name did pop up on the list, so shout out for that. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:52 All right. So we got to look at the 2000s list. Solid list. Now let's take a look at the all-decade teams from the 2010s. 2010s, I'm kind. Steph Hart and LeBron. Wait, this is 2010 to what?
Starting point is 01:18:09 This is basically 2011 to 19. 2019. 2010 to 19. Marc Gasol over Dwight? Again, this is... I knew that was Roger Gere. I'm just like... And some honorable mentions that could be on some of these teams Giannis clay Paul George go bear Dame
Starting point is 01:18:28 You see the third team autumn niggas from the other team wait hold on the third team Except for Draymond you can leave him. Why this is the third Chris Paul. Okay. Okay, that's crazy. Do I read urban? No, that's crazy. Dwayne Wade is is third on both. Yeah, he should be like second. Kobe Dirk and Tim is. This is 2010. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense, though. That makes sense. Yeah, that shit just happens like that.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Where's the Marta Rosen? Fair question, Gil, again. Merely a host. That's why we wanted to grind your gears a little bit. Why ain't Mello on? Wait, hold on. Why ain't Mello on there? Wait, hold on. Yeah, no Mello in the...
Starting point is 01:19:08 I mean, he don't have honorable mention at the bottom, but... He should definitely be in the second team. Remember, this is 2009 to 2019, most likely. I mean, this is New York, Mello. 10 to 19. But he only had three years? What about Kyrie Irving? No? Kyrie and Mello.
Starting point is 01:19:24 So just as a caveat, this list was created in 2019. Yeah, that's where the 2019... Hold on. Because... Melo did seven years in... Came out the same year as Braun. He did seven years in New York. So Brandon... Actually, Rashad, we'll start with you.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Who had the better era, the 2000s or the 2010s? The 2010s was the little boys, man. The little boys. The golden era. The golden era. So 2000 is the golden era in your opinion? The golden era. Everybody was killers.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Shot callers, ballers, assassins, snipers. He's an eight-time, Melo's an eight-time all-star in that era. 2010, right? Yeah. And he's not on there? He was, honorable mention. But I'm saying, can y'all put that list back up? Can you put the 2010s list back up, please?
Starting point is 01:20:17 He'd be in there in front of, I'd put him in front of Kawhi. Draymond Green, too. Dirk, how's Dirk, wait, hold on. He's just doing championships. Hold on. Dirt. Because Dirt won it in 2011. What he did in 2011.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I mean. That was his best year. This is more perspective on the name from those eras. We could debate about the teams and all that. I mean it matters because if you know Draymond Green, why not? Hold on. Draymond Green? Over Blake?
Starting point is 01:20:52 Three champs in that? The Marcus? Draymond over the Marcus? Three times. I mean, you got your three-time all-star. I mean. Y'all should be over there.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Average of nine points in the era. I'm, I'm, I'm. Who? But Choco. Yeah, I'm not putting, I'm not putting Marcus Hall and I'm not putting him in first team. Not over Dwight Howard. I mean, I, I mean, the fact that they got the 2010s. It's a bad, I mean, the fact that they got the 2010s, it's a bad. I mean, their third team is not very good.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Yeah. I figured you guys would have opinions, but that's why. But more just collectively the players from the period. No, no, no. We're not going to do the players because, you know, we're going to look at certain of these players and think that they're prime players. On the teams that they own? Yeah. So Kobe, wait.
Starting point is 01:21:54 That's an all-star, all-star, all-star. So basically a four-time real all-star. Next year, 13. Russ is definitely second team. Yeah, Russ is. I mean, that's what I said. It's his third team because his third team ain't. It's a name.
Starting point is 01:22:11 It's a name versus. Is AD second team though? 2010. He's 13. 13. He's 13. I'm looking at LaMarcus. No, Anthony Davis, this would be his year.
Starting point is 01:22:24 This would be his year. Yeah, see, Anthony this would be his year. This would be his years. Yeah, see Anthony Davis would be in, this is his whole career. He came in 2013, 14. He'd be LaMarcus. Six. So he's only six years in to this decade. Kyrie. Kyrie's got to be.
Starting point is 01:22:43 This is Dame. This is Dame. This is Kyrie. Kyrie's got to be- This is Dame, this is Dame, this is Kyrie. Yeah. Okay, okay, first of all, is Draymond top 75? He didn't make the list. So if he didn't make the list and Dame made the list, how the fuck is Dame sitting on the side? Right. Fair question, Gilmore.
Starting point is 01:23:00 Yup. Right, so- So the list is- All right, so I'm just going to go with with 2010 just cuz they fucked this one up. I Was gonna go with the I was gonna go with this group. I like this group Marc Gasol. Yeah, Draymond. Yeah And then old Tim Duncan so who would you put besides Marc Gasol Yeah, you need You need Dame in here. First team though.
Starting point is 01:23:30 Yeah, would you put Dwight? Dwight. 2010. Who you putting in there? 2010, that means this is hurt. That would be hurt Dwight. Right? Nah. Yeah, but we just talking about that error. That's what I'm saying yeah 2010 This is hurt. This is so mine was Superman Dwight is you got Superman?
Starting point is 01:23:50 So you got three years Orlando then basically LA and Houston So he was those three those last three years in Orlando was crazy Mmm to up until 2012 and 11 12 13.. Yeah. We're all good. Yeah. Even Tim Duncan. This is a horrible list. I know you guys will feel the way about it. Yeah. I think that, you know, and some do.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Yeah, Blake Griffin should be. Blake and LaMarcus. Yeah, Blake. Blake. Yeah, Blake. Blake. This is Blake. This is Blake's years.
Starting point is 01:24:26 So when you just look at the eras, though. You say 2000 was the golden era. Yeah, I Blake. This is Blake. That's what I said. This is Blake's years. So when you just look at the errors though You should go down to the golden era. Yeah, I'm going to down. Let me see the 2000s, but of course I'm going my hair But why do you feel like your era the 2010s is better than the 2000s? I know look at that list Because look at my roof. That's perfect. My roof because first, your first team, Steph Curry's already better than Steve Nash. So that's out of there. Fair. No cap. And then Dirk can't fuck with KD. Dirk can't fuck with KD. And then LeBron is in there on the first team too.
Starting point is 01:24:59 So yeah, that's... Yeah. And the rest? We have Tim and Shaq we only seen them in five years like Omari in front of Ben Wallace first of all we're not putting Steve we're putting A.I. in first team
Starting point is 01:25:13 A.I. go first, Steve Nash go to third A.I. go number one Dirk goes to number two LeBron goes in the team so it's going to be A.I., Kobe, LeBron, Tim, and Shaq. First team. Where is that?
Starting point is 01:25:29 Who? A.I., Kobe, LeBron, Tim, and Shaq. First team. Then you got J.Kid. Steve Nath. J.Kid, D-Wade, Tracy McGrady, Kevin Garnett,
Starting point is 01:25:49 Dan Amari, and I'm putting Ben on the third team with Chauncey and Paul. Yeah, I remember the only reason D-Wade can't make the second team
Starting point is 01:25:56 is because he's coming in the middle of the season. He's coming in 2003. 2005, yeah, 2003. You know, so he kind of, it's only three years. Give him seven years. But it's 2009, so it only gives him's only give him seven years, but it's 2009
Starting point is 01:26:05 So it only gives him but he was D Wade in oh six. He was oh six. Oh six So so you got three years of it when you got somebody who's like so Steve Nash J kid will be Fully fledged in the hawk. Steve wasn't Steve until oh five Now he was he was decent. He wasn't like that. He wasn't MVP, MVP, but he was decent still. Then you got Vince. You looking at Vince and Ray Allen. Yeah, Vince.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Early boys. Yow. So, Brandon, why do you feel like that? I'm putting you in front of Chauncey. Fuck the dumb shit. Oh, no, that's facts. Fuck the dumb shit. Fuck the dumb shit.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Gil's definitely in there. If you got Steve, shit, I'm putting you in front of Steve, too. Shit. AI first team, Gil second team. See, the problem with some of ours is most of these guys didn't even play the whole nine years.
Starting point is 01:26:59 Shaq is really only five years into the decade. I only really have six years, three dominant. Tracy McGrady got hurt. He didn't finish a full season. Paul Gasol should be in there because he played a good 10 years
Starting point is 01:27:18 in that era. That move, Ben down, honorable mention. I think Ray Allen should make it. Ray wasn't like that. Let me just be honest with you. Ray Allen wasn't like that? He was longevity. He was a longevity
Starting point is 01:27:33 type of guy. He made a lot of all-stars, but he was only top 15 two times in his career. So he was all NBA only twice. Chauncey moved down to honorable mention. He was more stable for us in that I'm not mad I mean it'd be it'd be very good, but I wouldn't want to pay against the The only person that scares me in 2010s is really LeBron Katie
Starting point is 01:27:59 Coming together cuz last one LeBron turned out to who LeBron is no Steph girl I mean Steph remember Steph kicks in with 2000 about 15. Yeah He came in rocking. I got LeBron. I got a James Harden Kevin Durant. Marcus. Ol is your weak link You got fucking triple-double rest Brooks Kawhi Leonard is then yeah. Yeah, he could be back in there you one year Dominate he's coming in and the Davis is dominant the white is here Yeah, yeah, he could be back in there. You one year. He's a gay one years dominant He's coming in and the Davis is dominant the white is here Kobe still a little bit of cold Dwayne Wade is 50 50 old Dirk Draymond shouldn't be in there, right? Dave Lillard and there should be Dame Leonard Blake Griffin
Starting point is 01:28:39 And Kyrie Irving's I can't pick it'll be a good-ass matchup, but we do got a motherfucker named Shaquille O'Neal And Kobe Bryant, but I did yeah first team Kobe. Brandon Why do you feel like the 2010s is better than the 2000s in terms of I mean that's it We just elevated the game. I mean, but that's what any era like we just always elevate it just gets better I mean three of the greatest players ever. Steph, LeBron, like, it's all in this era. All the greats is in this era. You were shaking your head right now. Even Tim Duncan still is in our era.
Starting point is 01:29:14 You not rolling with the 20s? I'm a student of this shit. I ain't no nigga that just watch SportsCenter. Wait, go back to our 13. I ain't no SportsCenter-watching nigga. I'll do this. Hold on, go back to our 13 Yeah Okay, so look this is a lot of niggas you got to move around. No. No, this is the only problem with that
Starting point is 01:29:37 This is the only problem with with your with the third team in your era Our era moat like the Wayneade is young amari's young tracy mcgrady is still young chauncey's young paul pierce is there when you talk about third team of y'all those are all old dudes those are dudes that's still in that was still like first team and second team in our era yeah so, so it was still winning championship But what I'm saying is they wasn't they wasn't them dudes, right? Our dudes is still young dudes That's making third team in your era here are these things like our era wait, wait, wait Hold on Kobe last championship was win 2000 but what that 2010 so yeah, but that's the 2002 all the way to 2019
Starting point is 01:30:23 You got to remember you still got to go ten years of a decade. I'm saying yeah, but the 2000 to all the way to 2019. You got to remember, you still got to go 10 years of a decade. No, but I'm saying, yeah, but that's them on their last leg. That's how good they still were. But that means that's how bad. That means that it's our error, bro. That's what he's saying. It's our error. Our error is your third team.
Starting point is 01:30:35 It's trickling down to your error. It's still our error. Our third team is not the 1990s. So, like, when it go to the 2010. Y'all got a lot of our players in the 2010 list, man. That whole era besides Draymond Green, right? That whole era is early 2000s. Period.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Well, Draymond shouldn't be in there. I know. So basically, even if you throw Carmelo in there, that's still Carmelo. Only person that lasts is Dame. If you take Dame, that's what I'm saying. So your third team, your third team is basically our 2000s. I mean, Dirk can go. That's the only thing I say.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Actually, I don't even know why they put Tim in there. Honestly. But that's what I'm saying. Your third team is the bottoms of our 2010. So, like, Tim, Dirk, and Kobe and Wade. Right? I mean, they're still dominating your area. But, you know, they're damn near.
Starting point is 01:31:41 That's our first and second team. You know, you need a Dame. you need blake griffin in there you need mellow see even mellow is still rocking with us you need where's your paul george and your clay thompson's and your yannis that should be your third team well yeah i'm wrong yeah well yannis was back-to-back mvp yeah but that's what i'm saying that's what i'm saying i don't know who made whoever but that was before he was back-to-back no he was back- back? No, he was not. He was back to back in 2020. 2019, right? 18, 19. MVP?
Starting point is 01:32:07 18, 19? 1920. COVID year? But that's what I said. Like, your third team, your third team should be Giannis, a Paul George,
Starting point is 01:32:18 a Dame Lillard, a Kyrie, Blake Griffin, and your Blake Griffin. That should be your third team. Like, you Griffin, and your Blake Griffin, that should be your third team. Like, you have that as your third team, 2010's for sure.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Because we know what they are now. But the fact that those are, your team is fucking running out in 2000. I don't know who made this. You got 90, I mean, Colt 96, so shit.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Don't worry about the, don't worry about the team. You know, Dirk, like I said, Dirk is 90, and Tim is 90, and they making, they making 13. Don't worry about the team so muchirk is 90, and Tim is 90, and they're making 13.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Don't worry about the team so much as just the players, right? No, you got it. What I'm saying is just the players from the 2010s. Obviously, there's some rollover from the 2000s. But what I'm saying is the fact that you got in your third team, you got rollovers from the 90s. It's fair. Like the third team is rollover from the 90s. That lets you know. Yeah, but you can bump, I'm saying you can bump replace guys.
Starting point is 01:33:08 I mean, yeah, y'all 13, yeah, y'all from this list, but these first two, come on, go back. Go back. Man, look, these players on this list, man. Come on, man. What are y'all talking about? Like, these players on this list right here. Take Ben off that, man.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Take Tauncey off that. Take Steve off that. You implement Gil, Vince, Dwight. To be honest, I'll add in probably Melo. I'm throwing this, man. Like, ours is dominant. Like, our third team is third team is, Dwayne is 2003, so he infiltrated his six years and got dominant. Amari, he became dominant to make this team. Tracy is a run over where he didn't get his dominance until 2000. Paul Pierce, same thing. Chauncey, same thing. So these guys were dominant to make third team. Your guys, you got people that's from 96 in your fucking team. 96, 97, 98. Same thing Chauncey same thing. So these guys were dominant to make third team your your guys
Starting point is 01:34:05 You got people that's from 96 in your fucking team 96 97 98, but even that's what I'm gonna do teams are killing Yeah, you know, you're like I first know They're not killing us. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Oh, I'm not okay. Well go ahead. Okay debate with yourself Literally the baby with yourself. No matter Literally don't matter. Literally. Don't matter. Literally. Your air, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:34:28 This could be dead body number two. It's okay. Dead body. Allen Iverson versus Steph Curry? It's not a chance. That is. Not a chance. You know what that is.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Excuse me? You know what that is. What is it? You know what that is. What is it? Because you know you can't say anything other than, because y'all homies. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 01:34:44 I don't give a fuck. I do it anyway, too. Yeah, you do. Don't do that. Yeah, you do. I don't give a fuck. I do anything too. Yeah, you do. Don't do that. Yeah, you do. What? Everybody bias on you. I said what?
Starting point is 01:34:49 Ain't nobody bias, nigga. We talk our shit. I like Billups. So Allen Iverson and Steph Curry. You got Steph. Steph Curry. Why? What?
Starting point is 01:34:58 I mean, he can. Why? Why not? The camera's on you. Why not? Why not? Put the camera back on him. Why not? Why? Why not? Now on you. Why not? Why not? Put the camera back on him.
Starting point is 01:35:06 Why not? Why? Why not? Now explain why. Why not? Game better. I want to hear it. Game better.
Starting point is 01:35:14 We want to hear it. Game better. Why? Game better. Why is this game better? Because it's game better. What part of his game is better? His game better.
Starting point is 01:35:22 What part? His game better. Let's hear it. His game better. This is game better? Game better. I like to debate basketball. You think AI is cooking stuff? Allen Iverson. Is cooking stuff. What? And Brandon, you say- Hibachi style. Steph is cooking AI. He can't explain why. He shoots better.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Game better. Game better. That's it. I just said game better. That's it. I just said game was better. What part of his game? Game was better.
Starting point is 01:35:38 Come on, niggas. You just- Another dead body. He talking to himself. Explain to me. When we look at these lists and y'all want's talk. He talked to explain to me When we look at these lists and y'all want to talk about who better what let me hear it Go all day
Starting point is 01:36:13 See I do this first of all who's buyers first of all who's black cuz we hope that you get the best player on it I have a real that has over a million views. Over a million views that says me saying, we're going to put these two niggas out of the conversation. We're going to put these two niggas out of the conversation. We're going to put these two niggas out of the conversation. Fuck outta here. We're gonna put these two niggas out of the conversation. What the fuck we talking about? So, am I friends with LeBron? Am I biased? We're gonna put all three of them out of the conversation then.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Huh? Then you gotta put all three of them out of the conversation. If you can't explain why Allen Iverson is not better than Steph, then you're biased. Because he's your homie. It's not. I just don't think... I love AI. Explain it.
Starting point is 01:36:43 The reason why I have tattoos, everything. Like, everything. But do you think Steph will cook AI? No, I just think he's a betterie. It's not. I just don't think. I love AI. Explain it. The reason why I have tattoos, everything. Like, everything. But do you think Steph will cook AI? No, I just think he's a better player. Better player. It would be an intense matchup, but Steph would emerge victorious in their head-to-head. Stop it. And Rashad, why do you think that AI?
Starting point is 01:36:59 Generational dime dropper. You know what dimes are? Buckets. They ain't assists. Buckets. I get buckets from all over the place middies lays Filets, but can you say Steph doesn't not the way I Allen Iverson does Not at the rate Allen Iverson does Allen Iverson better than Russell Westbrook
Starting point is 01:37:21 100% okay. I'm a used to L.A. guy, so. Bubba Chuck. Live forever. I don't want to guard none three of them. I love it. I love it. I'm just not.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Bubba Chuck. I ain't trying to guard none of them. So I can tell you that for sure. Forever. Bubba Chuck forever. Shout out to motherfucking Allen Iverson. Shout out to Allen Iverson.
Starting point is 01:37:41 I'd rather guard Russell first. Right. I'd rather guard Russell first. Right, I'd rather guard Russell first. I'd rather guard Steph second, AI third. I appreciate that. No, the reason I say Steph second is because what he did against Sacramento, right, when he had that 50 piece? In game seven?
Starting point is 01:38:06 Yeah. That's what Allen tried to do every game. So, you know, with Curry, even though him moving and stuff, he gives you a time. He'll give you some break. Allen, you, like, as long as he's trying to touch the ball, he's trying to shoot the ball. Right? So that was the only problem with trying to guard Allen Iverson. Like, you talk about the percentage
Starting point is 01:38:32 right, of 40 and 42. But that 42 is on five. Right? When we guarded Allen Iverson, we did not care nothing about the other four players on the court. No one cared about the other four.
Starting point is 01:38:47 No one knew them. I can't even tell you the other four players. It's Eric Snow because that's who guarded me. I know it was Aaron McKee. I can't tell you. Keith Van Horn. Keith Van Horn was on the team. I got to say, I can't tell you the other players.
Starting point is 01:39:00 Matt Harper. Because it was that. The keys was all Allen Iverson. Load when he touched the ball load up double run at him Yeah, that's it. And he was still getting three 23 to 24 shots up, right? So if you put better players on his team that we had to guard this many passing the ball at all This is not like he is not the same as Curry. Curry has a conscience of teammates. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:31 Him and Cole was two different mindsets. Them dudes, you was just, you was cones. So what happened in Denver then? Like, he played differently in Denver. Yeah, yeah. But that's what I'm saying. And that's what I said today. Because he got traded. But that's my thing today. He will have average 26
Starting point is 01:39:48 Yeah, okay, he would have mellow with mellow. Okay, and it's a sis and the sis was up right and everything That's why I said today. He would play just like no no because this he's not gonna have a mellow on it He's just gonna do deck and shoot the ball You take mellow off that team and there's like Kingyon and all that. He ain't passing the ball. Period. Period. I'm telling you, bro. Listen, the only thing that stopped AI was Mellow because it was his hometown. If Mellow wouldn't have went to 76ers, nah. But I'm just saying, there's only a few people that had the mindset as Allen.
Starting point is 01:40:20 No, I get it. No, I get that. There's no mindset. Like the mindset probably is what? Averaging 30, you don't think James Harden had that mindset. I'm averaging 35. Yes, but the only reason James Harden didn't average, the only reason he didn't average 40, because he dribbled too much. Dribbling too much. That's the only thing. But he could average 40.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Yes. Fuck yeah. Okay. If he didn't take 400 thing. But he could average 40. Yes. Fuck yeah. If he didn't take 400 dribbles, he would average 40? If you say, yo, just Jason Tatum it. Just boom, boom, and shot. Boom, boom, boom, and shot. Hell yeah. But remember, he's sitting there probing, probing, probing,
Starting point is 01:40:58 probing, and that's what takes away his shooting. That's what takes away the opportunities of shooting. But you remember if James Harden's taking 40% of the team shots and you say alright well let's take out half the German you still get the same 40% that means you're gonna add 10 15 20 more shots into the game which you still get 40% of that so you're gonna average 40 so we asked the chat who had the better era 57% said the 2000s 2000 3600 vote another dead body
Starting point is 01:41:32 Listen only because only because they did the 13 bad that 13 Yana should have been in a third team. DeMar DeRozan should have been there. I mean you got players that But you got people picking championships yeah but the talent do we have you got you a dream I mean my hair I mean drink drink mine is a dominant it was less about the team's more just about the players in those eras players names or just names yeah but I'm saying taking the players okay from the 2000 so if they would have put Michael Jordan in the 2000s he put a made to the team he'd have been out of them been on offer we played two years. He'd have been out of a mention mention because it's Jordan so we also asked the chat
Starting point is 01:42:09 Uh, would they rather take steph for a I 53% said Steph so Took it out on that one. Yeah, buddy's back one. I'll say my else Speaking of the Sixers they've been struggling without the reigning MVP Jolin B recovers from a knee injury he suffered in late January And B spoke with the media last week for the first time since being sidelined and said he wants to make a comeback Saying the following that's the plan obviously everything has to go right as far as getting healthy and being as close as I'm supposed to be but yeah That's the plan
Starting point is 01:42:44 See you you you did it you did it you did it you did it he's like nope all right man let's know hey you know that walk where you gotta walk out somewhere hey man tell him tell them doctors man just take to take the medicine down. Take the drugs down, man. Was he on IV when he said this? He progressed. Ain't no damn way. And B was looking to go back-to-back and was leading the MVP race, averaging 35,
Starting point is 01:43:16 11, and 6 assists before being sidelined after a game against the Warriors on January 30th. Sixers are 9-17 overall without him beat the season, 5-8 since this latest injury. Obviously he is no longer in contention for the MVP, missing the minimum amount of games to play. But the Sixers currently fifth in the East and barring a catastrophic meltdown, will at least be in contention for the play-in.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Good move or bad move for Joel Embiid to try to come back this season? Bro, don't come back. Mm-mm. Don't come back. No, don't come back. Leave it alone. Are we all in agreement, Sosa? Yeah. We all in agreement? Leave it alone.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Let me jump in. For the first time in the history of Gilson... I hate that he's a troll. You think he's trolling? What if he do come back, though? If he come back, though? If he comes back, he's a complete idiot. They need to drug test him.
Starting point is 01:44:17 If he comes back after he done lost, by default, MVP, first team, scoring title, and you come back to be a fifth, sixth seed, to get knocked out in the first round, you a damn fool. You just want to be a good teammate. Yeah, all right. Come on, don't do what we get what about the motivation so he's not Motivation to come out and lose it the first way we can orchestrate the greatest comeback The loser first round Philly special Let's say they win the first round. Oh and then losing a second round and risk your injury did to retweak it
Starting point is 01:44:49 The read tweaked it like get healthy for next year dog Take it to the third go back to next go back to go back to next year get a get it all back next year Right. This is low management time. He got no you should be low was his energy Me injury so he had a minus. It was a. It was a miniscus. A miniscus. Minor procedure. I had a miniscus. I mean, if he don't lose nothing, let's just say he still got what he, is this rhythm? Third round? So, after the surgery, he was supposed to be re-evaluated in four weeks. I believe today is that four week mark. So we will find out. Cat! He didn't even get the surgery when they made that I'm done but the surgery get this surgery when they said four weeks yo February 6 he don't need to come back well you don't need to come back but the
Starting point is 01:45:35 bed works today for him it is every time you hit the floor how many burgers did he eat this whole time are you think you think he's gonna be fat? How much weight did he gain in the process? Then he got to lose... He got to make sure his knee is strong enough, then he got to lose weight, get back in shape. Let it go. Okay, what if he wasn't eating burgers or cheese steaks?
Starting point is 01:45:56 He was locked in? Shit. All right, y'all. Keto. Okay. What if he done lost 30 pounds? New and improved, Skechers. What if he done lost 30 pounds? New and approved, Skechers. What if he done lost 30 pounds? When they got off the juice, remember when the niggas came back with that little neck?
Starting point is 01:46:10 The O-Zepsy? When they got off the juice? Remember when Mello was like, Remember when the niggas had that little neck? I said, yeah, I ain't. That was like 2010. Remember that nigga was in the gym with that little neck? Allegedly unconfirmed. Allegedly unconfirmed. I'm saying
Starting point is 01:46:35 Allegedly uncle that's what happened when you see the little Nick you like mmm that niggas detoxing them niggas was like Can't like them early kind of like the early 90s, huh? Everybody's all swole losing it here Last year now 27 would have gone No, do I have the picture it was the way That's why I be funny when they start bringing it up like do y'all know y'all history just go back and start look Yeah, yeah, April do got all day got a hair like me Came back whole front gone
Starting point is 01:47:13 But we know what's up we get it. It's alright when I'm pisses that So is there any chance that the Sixers can make a deep run in the postseason if Embiid returns and is healthy. Stop with the Embiid coming back. I did not hear this shit, man. If he come back here damn fool, and whatever happens after that, we don't give a fuck. Nobody gonna feel sorry. You come back for a
Starting point is 01:47:37 fifth seed, knowing damn well y'all ain't got no goddamn championship chance, and you risked your career, then you deserve it. After that, we'll see you next year, big fella. Get healthy, and that MVP trophy is yours, because obviously nobody stopped you this
Starting point is 01:47:54 year. Ain't nobody gonna stop you next year. Only thing that's gonna stop you is that knee, and if you're gonna risk it for some bullshit, then I don't wanna hear shit about it. Okay? So, good. Do you feel like he was more trolling? You know, basically lying to them. I don't want to hear shit about it Okay, so good. You feel like he was more trolling You know, I'm basically lying to them. I don't know who owns Philadelphia right now But you already fucked up by putting them in there
Starting point is 01:48:14 You already fucked up by putting load manager or not the load management But agreeing to this 65 to jeopardize what she was planning on doing. Anyway, you need to go ahead protect your asset. I Don't give a what are you talking about? So I'm coming out. I'm coming out as the owner Embed ain't playing no more. Oh, so you think that he got hurt because of the 65 shit? Yeah, yeah same reason Halliburton is out here playing Playing her plan or not playing the way he used because he Yeah, because he was hurt. Remember, he was hurt, complaining like everybody, oh, what's happened? He ain't the same. The only reason he's playing is so he can still make the team because he need his 80.
Starting point is 01:48:53 He need his super max. He ain't healthy. That man out here playing hurt because he wants to qualify. For his chips. For his chips. That's a sick gamble. That's a sick. So you got these guys.
Starting point is 01:49:06 We've talked about it before that 40 mil. 40 mil. If I got a hobble, I'm getting my 40 million. Can't let the owners win. I know he's a niggas can't wait to win the last game. April. How you doing? Taking taking.
Starting point is 01:49:21 I'm pretty sure he's taking a cortisone shots in that goddamn hammy that's 40 million dollars man I mean I'm not here playing like first team you know shit worst case scenario I'm gonna make third yeah you limping so so so so so so the sixes you saying they should have never even voted for that shit cuz and B wouldn't be hurt if it wasn't. The problem is this, man, and it's just the whole thing I've been saying that it is a double-edged sword because the owners, the coaches, general manager, they're putting in the load management. They want the longevity of it. And then they're backdooring the situation talking about, hey, these guys are load managing
Starting point is 01:50:12 and we need to put a minimum of 65 games in. The players, as long as you tell them they're going to get more money, they don't give a fuck what they write. All right, ooh, we get an extra super max, we got a 65 minimum. We got that! Hell yeah! And then you realize, wait, hold on. We're not even in control of the 65 games.
Starting point is 01:50:33 We're not in control of the 60. Like, I can say to the player, like, I've never, I've never, I've never went, like, just to think about it, I've never went into a game and heard a player say, I don't want to play today. Niggas can say. Like how Bones and. Yeah, yeah. You got Bones and. PJ.
Starting point is 01:51:00 PJ. PJ. That's what it sounds like. That's what it sounds like. Dudes is complaining. Yo, I need some time. I want a player I've never seen somebody like yeah, I'm just going here take today off Yeah, I never does I'm saying like you telling the star player to mess up his stats And I mean so it's one of those things where it's it kind, it plays so much in the team's hands.
Starting point is 01:51:28 It's like you're trying to make up for the inflation of contracts. You're trying to make the inflation of contracts. That's what amnesties are for. Now I can, if he don't play a certain amount, if I can get him to sit a couple games, I don't got to pay him a super max. It all plays for the owners. So if it ain't the fucking team telling MB he don't play certain amount if I can get him to sit a couple games I don't got to pay him a supermax, you know, it all plays for the owners So if it ain't the fucking team telling no MB he got a plate and why would he come out and say that? No, no, no, it's what's going on. This is what happened the same thing What happened with Hallen right? You have a timetable. Oh, no a six to eight weeks, right? You're looking at six to eight weeks like
Starting point is 01:52:02 Yeah, oh hell hell no six days to week i'll lose 40 million oh yeah no coach i'm fine i'm i'm fine and he gonna go out there himself early same thing with mb he starts sitting there counting it's all on media oh mb got four games left and he's sitting there like oh yeah i know i can play coach no but let's say after that after he already realized he got to do surgery and shit and they say alright four weeks is your time table is it him saying alright I'm ready to go
Starting point is 01:52:32 or is it the organization saying hey big fella are you ready to go right now it don't matter they don't give a fuck whatever he was going to win and help his contract they don't care what he said hey you want to play I'm talking about the pressure there ain't no pressure for him to push back except for him just deciding. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm pretty sure there's pressure now to play. Because of the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:52:53 Because of the playoffs. Right. Before, they didn't want him to play because they didn't want him to get these awards that open up these extra, what's the name? So before, they were probably trying to sit him while he was trying to play now he's like well fuck it and they're like now we're you know playoffs is coming you know the team yeah team the team needs you checking the timetable like with hallie once he missed 65 it's like hey no no no no come on, right? Right? So now it's the player. Now it's the player trying to play. That's just.
Starting point is 01:53:27 See, the players are trying to get to 65 when the team is like, nah, get healthy. Once they mix to 65, it's like, nah, you can play now. You're good. Doctor gave you the okay. Doctor gave you the okay. How the fuck can you give him four weeks? Doctor gave you the okay. What I'm saying is, how can you give a dude four weeks?
Starting point is 01:53:43 You ain't even winning his knee yet. He had the surgery, I believe, back on February 6th. No, but they gave the the okay what I'm saying is I can't do it dude for weeks. You ain't even winning his knee yet Oh, yeah, the surgery I believe back on February so no, but they gave the four weeks came out before The knee so they wouldn't know the timetable. They wouldn't have the timetable because you ain't went in there yet You don't know what's going in there, but you're giving us folks shut up But that's just to be reevaluated and that's terminology that's used by a lot of teams now What is the pressure comes is four weeks and everybody's like hey, so how you feeling you ready? Yeah, but like I said all the time. I hope you reevaluated. He's ramping up. Yeah. Yeah, oh, he's out for the season But that's what I say, but that's for tickets ticket sales. Oh, you know, everybody start doing a playoff push and Embiid is coming out
Starting point is 01:54:18 They're saying yeah, you know, I'm just getting ready just warming up and shit. Yeah Yeah, so we asked the chat, should Embiid return this season? They were in agreeance with y'all. 75% said hell no. Damn, so 30 said yes? 25? It's probably Buck's and Boston's fans because they know if he's out there, they're going to lose.
Starting point is 01:54:43 They're doing the opposite. Like, no, no, come on back. Yeah, keep throwing the ball to that one guy. Boston fans cuz they know if he's out there they gonna lose They doing the opposite like no no come on back. Yeah, keep throwing the ball to that one legged So speaking of injury Nick's been battling injury bug had a scare with their star player Jalen Brunson this weekend against the Cavs Less than a minute into the game As you can see, we suffer non-contact. It looked bad. Obviously, the prayers was going out.
Starting point is 01:55:11 He had to leave the game. Like I said, less than a minute into it. Tried to get back up at one point. Fell right back to the ground. His ankle? So, ended up being diagnosed with a knee contusion. But Brunson is questionable for the Kn next game against the Hawks on Wednesday. Don't know if he'll play, but...
Starting point is 01:55:32 That looked crazy. Yeah, at first I thought it was a tear. I thought it was probably... NCL. Because that's how that looks, where you're just planning and going. So most likely it probably just came off it buckled Yeah, right a hyper extension probably like that just bone bruise me Yeah
Starting point is 01:55:52 Like scary, you know, I just look yeah, but we didn't plan like that. Especially not contact side even playing So well, obviously always think the worst but happy to hear Jalen Brunson the Knicks avoided the scare. Yeah. Gil's favorite team. Yep. The New York Knickerbockers. It is. The Knicks. I'm a Knickerbocker fan now. I'll feed it up. I just can't claim it. Okay. Gil, you're a Knicks fan? Huh? I want to see them in the playoffs. Why do you want to see them? This is like what I did Boys in the ball boys in the ball. Are you high school in me? He ain't that good
Starting point is 01:56:41 Ain't that good points in the ball does he's not sorry, you know, he's not One option, huh? You say number one option you just say it was a star. That's the difference. Jalen Brunson is a star. He's not the number one option. You just say he was a star. On a winning team, yes. But Knicks are a winning team right now. He is the best player on said winning team. Stop riling him up, man. He's just riling him up. You know what I mean by winning team.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Boston, Philly. 36-25. Boston, Philly, Milwaukee Billy Milwaukee better than the Sixers right now Milwaukee Bucks right okay see right who else is top and remember Minnesota Sixers top four in the East right you know Denver mm-hmm I do I need to keep going the neighbors Nick top four in these I just named the teams right then our choppy ready. Are is he? Yeah, Nick's our top four and Adam Silver's East without without Randall Randall's had an injury og and Anobi's with battling injury. It's all been Jalen Brunson this far
Starting point is 01:57:38 Yeah, we got to go to New York at some point. I would like to reverse the no no Thanks is Jalen Brunson right now. We need a trip to New York Underdog fantasy is bringing us out to New York. They just found this out. They ain't gonna find us We would like to be able to traverse the streets Without any protection or help You got the robot dogs, boy. Hey, y'all, speaking of just robots, have y'all watched, like, in L.A., like, Hollywood? Maybe, like, robots just, like, going down the street?
Starting point is 01:58:16 Like, I don't know what the fuck... It's the Uber Eats, the Uber shits. You ain't order the Uber shit? Deliverance night. Deliver with the Uber, with the robot dog. Man, if the front gate Let a robot through this motherfucker boy I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean just seeing just just cross the street. Just this rope little machine
Starting point is 01:58:36 And I'm always a probably nobody's kicking them like if they have that in the bay to like they have like a robot security guard I'm when I was out there for the final 20 robot what it was like a robot security guard. I'm when I was out there for the final so real about what it was like a robot Security guard just going in a circle around the block, but I'm just like how come nobody didn't kick this robot Yeah, got your name on it when you pull up only robot I fuck with his Johnny number hold in and pop out food get your food See yep close the door and it like it's just the app for just robot shit It's called over each room just Uber eats. Uber Eats So you ever do that on postman? Sometimes you order is like it's like a it's like a car without a driver. So you don't got a tip It's an auto driver like a hard fuck. Yeah, bro. I've been sitting in a bag. You don't get to choose it though
Starting point is 01:59:15 It's like basically if it's in the area and in the store that you get from yeah, they'll do an automatic rope They got the robot. Where does the robot park like yeah, it's not to end the part He's not gonna have jobs at all. Oh, yeah Let's come to the airport. I ain't even no cashier no more So our our steam producer said I'll keep taking jobs away from humans watch what happened our sleep of us can't pay rent All right That just coming out to you You keep taking jobs you digging McDonald's is gonna be all robots in there I So okay, it's so in 2015 there was a hitchhiking robot that made it all over the world until it got to Philly
Starting point is 02:00:00 And they beat it up They beat it up and headed it see that's, that's why they get rid of human jobs. That was a lot of action. Shit, it got all the way to Philly. They beat it up. Beat it up. I mean, hey, hey, hey, the way, the way, what's going on in Philly right now, they need some aggression. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:22 I can tell you that right. Right. Add that to the list of cities we are. I ain't shit. I mean, you know, right now, what's the city called? Brotherly Love. Mm-hmm. It's the city of Brotherly Love. Who changed their name to Brother Love?
Starting point is 02:00:43 Don't. Don't. Don't. Don't. Ain't A.I. getting a statue? A.I. is getting a statue at the Sixers. Don't go there. Training facility. I know where you're going.
Starting point is 02:00:52 Don't go there. Not next to Rocky Mountain. Brother Love. Brother Love. Brother Love is loving the brothers and the brotherly love. The love album. Yeah, we would like to make it home today. You think A.I. deserve a statue?
Starting point is 02:01:03 We would like to make it home. Y'all do it unnecess today. You think A.I. deserve a statue? We would like to make it home. Y'all doing unnecessary shit. That's him. That's him. Yo, you rich. No, no, no, no. I'm just saying, like, I just, I just, the two came together. And it's like, brother, the city of brotherly love.
Starting point is 02:01:21 So-called infiltrated by brother love. That is crazy. Y'all are crazy That's what they call our family show you got a lot of names Y'all are out-of-pocket chat for dysfunctional family and I'm just reading the chat. I just this chat did this Do you you said yeah, we try to make it home There are black suburban circling the block right now black suburban Oh, not no more. It would have been Before last week Fuchsia.
Starting point is 02:02:06 Fuchsia liqueur. It's the colors like those are not real. Come on, man. The Timboos ain't butter no more. Leave him alone, man. Leave him alone. They transferred our favorite security guard to another gated community. You are very vulnerable right now.
Starting point is 02:02:21 You are very vulnerable. I'm just saying. It ain't. It ain't. I'm just saying it ain't. I'm just saying. We have to live and operate in this city. But last thing we're talking about for most fans. So with Brunson's sideline, Dante DiVincenzo dropped 28,
Starting point is 02:02:38 and Josh Hart messed around and dropped a triple-double, including this late three. Big shot for the Knicks. But he even tried to de-bow Donovan Mitchell's chain who was sitting on the Cavs bench. Now he's like that's fake. Diamond tested. Y'all seen that video of the old dude testing it? He gets salty. He gets salty on all the diamonds. Don't you bring that diamond tester over here, nigga.
Starting point is 02:03:10 First of all, I'm not letting nobody test my diamonds. I would just wait for the old dude to snatch them. Going to the bathroom. But what are you doing if somebody tried to snatch your chain? That wasn't a snatch. That was a pop collar. Yeah, that was a pop. Pop it.
Starting point is 02:03:23 That was a pop. Try to snatch your chain. If they try pop collar. Yeah, that was a pop. Pop it. That was a pop. Got to snatch your chain. If they try to take your chain, D-Boss style. I ain't going to lie. I like this new era, man. They did some funny motherfuckers, though. At first, I was irritated by, remember the jersey when he was shooting the arrows and stuff?
Starting point is 02:03:42 It irritated me as a player. I wouldn't I I don't know if y'all y'all ain't too serious to be put in the game, but just watching it. They hyphy man They having fun. I like it. I like this new era. They are they will it is like you They troll because it's trolling but they take the game serious like it's really like But they're shooting game serious like it's really like but they're shooting arrows Yeah at all things I'm a bazooka type of nigga. I don't know but it's a little too friendly though little soft to me too friendly in this era
Starting point is 02:04:17 Yeah Where everybody see see back when we're coming up? It was regional right you play with your regional squad I'm sure your air and then they started bringing dudes who are, you know, two-hour flights away, at least southwest, bringing the K-loves of the world down through. But we didn't know these dudes. So the only time you saw them was at tournaments, walking the midway at Circus Circus. I just hate that we got to keep saying back in our day. That's come to that time, bro.
Starting point is 02:04:40 You're pushing forward. LeBron's in year 21. LeBron is year 21. Back when we was playing. Like when LeBron retired. Back when. You're right is your 20 back when we was playing like when LeBron Back when I had a good work couple to work the workers shift. Yeah back before hinge Hey, you got I didn't have to fucking they got us going on this back in our day
Starting point is 02:05:00 We them back way. Yeah, we almost close it up a room Back in our day like making calls on the payphone. Yeah shit was the sidekicks and next house. Oh, yeah We was young boys then we was I mean that was that was a Damn, I did retire when the iPhone I was retired when the iPhone came out Oh, you're a lot of your iPhone. No when I got it. The first one was old nine No, it wasn't first iPhone. Oh, when I got it. The first one was 09. No, it wasn't? First iPhone? Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:05:29 I saw Sidekick. I was Blackberry. Oh, yeah, Blackberry. I was Blackberry. Blackberry was crazy. Blackberry, yeah. I was both. So wait, first iPhone I think was released?
Starting point is 02:05:38 2007. 2007? Yeah. Damn. Because they had the, what was that, the shit, the music on it. Damn, I'm old. iPod. Ringtone.
Starting point is 02:05:49 The iPod. Ringtone. Yeah, ringtones, iPod, yeah, ringtones. Ringtones. That big-ass iPod we used to have with all that music. You used to feel like the boss having a thousand songs on there. Damn, young people really got to appreciate life. Y'all got it way too easy.
Starting point is 02:06:03 Hell yeah, you had to get the laptop get that download the music put on your iPad You had to get your word face to face Mad where face to face with the hard work you had to do I had I had the PDA They called it a PDA was big-ass palm pilot with the phone owner Definitely you with the airpiece. Oh, yeah with the airpiece Yeah You with the air-freeze huh? Yeah with the air-freeze. Yeah, yeah, yeah you definitely look yeah, yeah. Shout out to the iPhone niggas. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:29 Back in our day like rappers was tough. So unnecessary. On the corner for real. Yeah. Robbing niggas for real. Yeah, now they get robbed. By the fans, the fans. Nah get big and raw just not with possessions Y'all going to hell y'all going to hell do you rich you can do these type of things
Starting point is 02:07:03 I'm anointed I'm on YouTube. I'm old. Y'all can't find me. Downloading a mix tape off of Dat Piff. You guys remember the time. Dat Piff. Dat Piff. Some of you were not there. Napster. Napster. Line Wire. Get the Bad Lick. Smack After you fuck right by why you're the best DVD get the bedless The back when Paul's mean Paul's Back when Paul's mean Paul ain't no Paul The only reason I'm saying is cuz I was on you know how you be on just watching stuff and then like I see responses and then I just be like I Don't think he thinks we serious like do you just can't say this like you just these I don't know you can't respond like this You don't say this stuff like this you just like just go some way I
Starting point is 02:08:05 They don't know how to respond in the comments Like DVDs with the pro club shirts air roll club. I mean, you remember Yeah, what was the the first little storage? Um, gentlemen something that was man's land Yeah before turning to West Man's Land. Man's Land. Man's Land, Fox Hills Mall. Man's Land, Fox Hills Mall. There used to go to different backyards. Yeah. Fine establishment. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:28 Before it turned into Westfield. Unfortunately. Unfortunate change. Throwbacks, man. Skype. Skype was the shit. Skype was the shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:36 Man, I guess that's OnlyFans now. It is. It is. It is. Skype was the thing for me. That's when I was overseas. Yeah. I was lonely.
Starting point is 02:08:44 Killing. Killing. Killing the phone sex. That for me. That's when I was overseas. Yeah, boy. Hello killing it Let's move on to mostly for real when people when I first got my iPhone and like yo FaceTime me Hello what you got on the like? I'm at work. We FaceTime before Skype and I know it's about to be a fun free free for free 299 subscription You ain't got a trick me with feet pictures and stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:09:26 Bathing suits. This is what I see on Instagram. You tricked me. I done spent a month for this. No. What, no filters? Nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 02:09:34 Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. I see you. I see you. Hey, the Skype. Filters have been the downfall of monitor society. If you didn't want nobody to see you, you just put the pillow over your face. Got the dancing and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Girl, shake it, baby. If you want nobody to see you you just put the pillow over your face
Starting point is 02:09:51 Put the pillow so nobody knew who you were Ladies and gentlemen, I guess that was just some NBA civil. Hey for real literally put the bag over your head Some of us were a Bible study Improving our relationship with all he cut off Just above this just above the screen You know, I don't know about that. Y'all don't know about that At a Skype some of your mom was those those some of our Skype a lot of y'all A lot of y'all mama Skype was the shit if you a if you NBA player and you're anywhere from the age of 25 and below, trust me.
Starting point is 02:10:29 Your mama was a real star. Your mama was probably on my FaceTime. Man, leave me alone. And as I say, leave me alone. Leave me alone in the comments, man. If you a young nigga. You better forget our age. I'm going to look up your last name. You better stop.
Starting point is 02:10:42 You better stop. Where you from? Where you from? Yeah, I was in that city a lot, young fella. You better stop. You better stop. Where you from? Where you from? Yeah, I was in that city a lot, young fella. You better leave me alone, nigga. That's what's the funny part. Hey, hey, we young enough to tell you your mama wasn't. Your mama was our work.
Starting point is 02:10:57 Man. And you know what? And that's gonna be the bad thing about these young niggas. They gotta be careful talking shit. Shout out to Slink Johnson. It's like, yo, listen. Your mama. Your mama. Your mama was our work. They so sensitiveiggas. They gotta be careful talking shit. Shout out to Slick Johnson. It's like, yo, listen. Yo mama. Yo mama now. Mama was our word.
Starting point is 02:11:07 They so sensitive too. That's the number one punchline. Hey boy, you know your mama now. The mama joke is back. What? I think the mama joke is back. It's not a joke anymore. Do I need to pull out the blackberry? The blackberry. Listen, I know it ain't 1080p, but this 320.
Starting point is 02:11:24 She still got that tattoo. That same tattoo. Right down the butt. Listen, I know ain't 1080p, but this 320 Wait a minute, this is your name that's your name you still got your daddy name. Yeah Your middle name is after me why are. Ladies and gentlemen, the show is off the rails. That's just the age, you know what I'm saying? That's the age right now. Hey, Trev, you need to calm down. You're 23 now. You got to relax. Hey, no, no.
Starting point is 02:11:59 Hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, Trev. Trev, you better watch out, Tramp. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, hey. Hey, yo, fellas. You a producer now.
Starting point is 02:12:11 You was in the picture before. Hey, nigga. We on the town right now, man. About 22 years ago now. Hey, no. Hey, no. The funny part is, you're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you.
Starting point is 02:12:19 You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. You're going to have a whole bunch of people watching you. We on the time right now. That's about 22 years ago now. Hey, no. The funny part is, you're going to have a whole bunch of dudes like,
Starting point is 02:12:30 I did have his jersey in my room. In my room. If it's signed, I probably personally signed it. Oh, my Lord. That was our little exchange back then. That was our exchange. I'm going to give you the jersey back then. The barter system
Starting point is 02:12:46 as Belvedere Baby Boy taught us about. First Mostly Fans question is a video question. Your mama was mostly a fan. Mostly. Mostly. Goddamn.
Starting point is 02:13:00 Mostly. Goddamn. You're going to leave me alone. Ladies and gentlemen, this will be my last day hosting Gills and Gills in our fantasy. I'm devoting my life to God. There you go, man. Mostly got down you leave me alone I'm devoting my life to God Objections all the way around everybody. So first question video question underdog user King Shavey
Starting point is 02:13:28 Does the NBA refs have too much control over the game? Cuz these motherfuckers just be throwing out text injections for no damn reason Maxwell's handed shorted the ball tank the John T. Murray didn't want to talk. He looked like oh All right tank like what motherfuckers hang on a rip tank like bro What the fuck can we do? Like, do we need to take techs out the game? Because this shit is crazy. Did he have a blunt in his finger? Yes, he did. God bless you, King Shaggy. God bless.
Starting point is 02:13:50 I hope it was some fire, not some mid. It looked mid. In these tough economic times. It looked mid. It looked mid. It was a backwood. Take techs out of the game? I hope it wasn't a bunch of roaches pulled together.
Starting point is 02:14:03 The game would look different if they did that. No techs? Unless the tech just equals just a fine, no personal, so you can't kick a player out and you can just fine them $500, $2,500. Well, what about just points? Nah, see, I don't think techs should add to points because you still can change the game just giving a whole bunch of tech. Like, if it just says, I'm giving you a tech, and that's just a fine, and there's no implication of getting put out of the game, that could. Wait, what? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:31 Like, so I can give you a tech, it just don't count against you for, like, two techs to get you out. So I can't just personally just try to get you out of the game. Right. Because, look, this is what I don't like. No, because some of these, they might kick a rough, I mean, come on. No, no, what I'm saying is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the great mind, like the great mind says. No, what I'm saying like. No, because some of these, they might kick a ref. I mean, come on. No, no, what I'm saying is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They might like the great mindset.
Starting point is 02:14:47 Yeah, like somebody got to be. What I'm saying is like, like something like this. Let's say you get a tech for talking to the ref. Right? That's one tech. And then you come and dunk and hang on the rim. And then that tech gets you out of the game. Right.
Starting point is 02:15:01 Like stuff like that. Yeah. I don't like that either. So what gets you kicked out? Like probably kicking the ball or game. Stuff like that. I don't like that either. So what gets you kicked out? Probably kicking the ball or something. Go bearing? Or a fight or something.
Starting point is 02:15:12 Something like that. Like touching a ref? Yeah, touching a ref. Leaving the bench. Yeah, touching. Even leaving the bench. Even leaving the bench. Yeah, that's too much.
Starting point is 02:15:18 You should be allowed to smack the shit out of him. I think everybody needs to leave the bench to get... When it's something that's physical, probably physical towards the ref, physical towards the player, yeah, we can kick you out of the game.
Starting point is 02:15:28 But talking trash and anything that has to do with just basketball itself... Flagrant twos. Flagrant twos. Yeah, I mean, yeah, like, if you clock somebody, like... Yeah, but that's physical. That's physical. Yeah, that is physical, yep. That's physical. But, like, two texts to get you out,
Starting point is 02:15:42 like, when a ref is right there and y'all sitting there going back and forth, he'll be like, boom, boom boom and then get you out there shouldn't be allowed right like nah so those are two fines but it's five five just two five so it's five thousand like twenty five hundred twenty five hundred whoo that's a lot and then and then a third one twenty five thousand like it just it's just leave just keep going up there you just gotta be up there cuz niggas just get because if I want to keep yelling and the next with 5,000 Two minutes later. Ooh
Starting point is 02:16:07 10,000 yeah, you don't it don't affect it doesn't affect the game. I like that said I like that It doesn't affect the game at all. It's just it affects your pocket. Just that thousands of sounds I'm thinking 500 500 but but $2,500, $5,000, $10,000. Right there, it'll shut you up, and it doesn't leave the points. It doesn't kick you out of the game. It keeps the stars inside the game. Was it fresh every game, starts back? Yeah, it starts back.
Starting point is 02:16:37 You got to reset. Are you talking about it just after? If you get three one games, the next game, you get your fourth. Nigga, that's 15. No, no just it's just start it's just crazy not because then niggas will stop getting texts period because they keep going up but right if it keep going up like draymond got 16 like at 16 that's but you don't want 75 000 nigga you just took a 75 000 but you don't want a ref that sit there and do that but now you have somebody you know that's just targeting you. You're right. You're right. You're targeting for the cash.
Starting point is 02:17:06 Now, like, oh, yeah, he had $100,000. That might be even more dangerous, though. You literally have players that it's going to cost you money. Now, if I don't like you, I'm going to just keep doing it just to do it. You don't want that. Have players owing money.
Starting point is 02:17:20 It's a start over. What's his name? King Shavey. Give him 200 for that one. King Shavey, you got 200. You may be smoking fire, get the fires of the fire. And it is me putting in a grape swisher. Old head trick, because anything in a grape swisher is fire. Swishers.
Starting point is 02:17:40 Grape swishers. I never moved to Backwoods or any of those type of things. White House? You know, the Black Jacks, whatever at your lowest back in the day. Because I'm proud. Not proud. No Phillies? No Phillies?
Starting point is 02:17:57 You know, once upon a time. Once upon a time. A little too big. Cigarillos. Philly Cigarillos. Philly Cigarillos. Give me a little cigarillo. Give me a little cigarillo. Let me stretch this for as long as I can. All right, so next question is also a video question from Underdog User,
Starting point is 02:18:17 The Great Handowski. Shout out to Gil's Arena. Gil and his son went out this weekend and caught a body bag. So my question is, what's the best body bag that y'all seen live with their own two eyes whether in game during your career or just attending the game i like the black and white i never go live what's the best body bag dunk you've seen live i bounce it but uh I bounced it, but it's Jason Richardson on somebody. It's going to be Jason Richardson on somebody. So, I mean, I like the one where I bounced it off the floor.
Starting point is 02:18:57 And Sean Kemp tried to push him out of the air and he dunked on him. Sean, best body bag that you saw live? Similar to what he said, something Gerald Green did in the game. Gerald Green was one of them body bag guys. I can't remember which one. He had so many. But I played with him in Minnesota, so he used to body bag me because I can't pinpoint one, but go look it up.
Starting point is 02:19:23 I think me, probably Eric Gordon, Las Vegas big-time tournament. Oh, wow. He can't have his choice? Were you there, too? He had bounce back then. That's right. He came down and dunked on, like, just took off. He said Aaron or Eric?
Starting point is 02:19:43 Eric Gordon. EG? Yeah, EG in high school. One of the craziest dunks. You said Aaron or Eric? Eric Gordon. EG? Yeah, EG. In high school. One of the craziest dunks. You said seen live, right? Yeah. Yeah, I've seen with my own.
Starting point is 02:19:51 Yeah. That was... Shout out to whoever in the chat said Peach Optimo's quality brand. Eric Gordon had bounce, G. In high school? Let me switch mine.
Starting point is 02:20:01 Dunleavy. Damn. Dunleavy had a two-finger dunk, and then somebody walked. He ain't never seen Eric Gordon dunk. Eric Gordon. Out of all the dunking you've seen in the NBA, did you dunk on somebody worse than that? No.
Starting point is 02:20:19 No? Oh, this must have been a good one then. Brandon Knight. You ain't seen the Brandon Knight body bag? They said live, though. You wasn't on that team. They said live though. You wasn't on that team? No, not with me.
Starting point is 02:20:29 Live. No, you said the question was live. The question was like live, but you said not on TV. I mean, come on, we can... No, no, I'm talking about live. Huh? I'm just saying, like... I mean, when Shaq was dunking on us every goddamn time.
Starting point is 02:20:43 That's throw Miles Swift one though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the throw Miles. In Chicago, when he dunk was dunking on us, that's every goddamn time. That's Joe Miles' swift one, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Joe Miles. In Chicago, when he dunked on... Tyrus Thomas. Two-hand. That might be one of the sickest dunks I've ever seen in my life.
Starting point is 02:20:54 That was insane. Like, that was insane. Incredible. Two-hand body. Ooh! Flew on him. Flew on him. This was one of your better...
Starting point is 02:21:02 I was like, ooh! This was one of your better... Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm....celebrations or basketball games. Not DeAndre Jordan, though. I flew on him. I flew on him. This was one of your better celebrations of basketball. Not DeAndre Jordan, though. Brandon Knight. Very disrespectful. That D. Rose one against Gordon when he came down there. Disgusting.
Starting point is 02:21:19 When a big dunking on the guard, that don't impress me. The Justin D. Rose high school one where he waited for Duke. He, like, slowed down and waited for him. I felt like I was against Alonzo Mourner. Kobe on Dwight. When he whipped it up like that, that was retarded. As a kid, my Chris Webber, when he dunked on Barclay. Yeah, that was the one. That was like, oh, I like that.
Starting point is 02:21:43 So our last question is another video question. Okay, we got a lot of videos today from underdog user Tez4x. What's up, Gills and Renners crew? I got one question. If y'all could play with anybody from this new generation, who would it be and why? Appreciate y'all. Love the show. I thought he had thorns on his joint at first.
Starting point is 02:22:06 But if you could play with any player of this generation, who would it be? Me, Jokic. Look at you, Gil. He's going to pass you the ball. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, backdoor and cut and, like, you know, you get it all with him. Look at you beating the allegations, Gil. Picking a European player. What allegations?
Starting point is 02:22:26 I'm just, the internet has labeled you with some certain terminology. Euro hater. Oh, to Euros? No, I mean, but, I mean, no. I'm just telling you, Gil. I mean, but to play with somebody today, yeah, it would have to be him. Like, he just makes the game easy for everybody. Everybody.
Starting point is 02:22:42 Everybody. Really? You know who I would pick? Who? LeBron James. I already knew where you were going. Like right now, though? Right now.
Starting point is 02:22:50 I feel like you're setting LeBron up to tear him down. 40 and 40. We 40s. We in our 40s. OK. I don't give a buck if you're not 40s. I mean, if I'm at 40, I ain't got to do nothing. LeBron James.
Starting point is 02:23:09 LeBron counters the new generation. LeBron. Let's play with LeBron. Let's play with LeBron. One of them James boys. One of the Jackson boys. There's some new LeBron James. There's some new excuse for LeBron James coming out.
Starting point is 02:23:25 Why do I get the feeling we're going to see shot on the shop in the near future? What you talking about, man? You going to be on the shop? I said I'm not going to hate on the man no more. Y'all don't know who made me get even on tech now. Goddamn. Y'all niggas got to leave me. You go to that whistle man like my body at the next, man.
Starting point is 02:23:38 You go to that fucking whistle man. Leave me the fuck alone, man. I'm a fighter of the world, man. I'm appreciating greatness, man. Appreciate you, gentlemen. I mean, are you about to be... Fuck alone man Appreciate greatness you gentlemen are you about to be? Are you about to be drinking the spray? Oh, I haven't got I haven't gotten in the Lobos. They're not trying to illuminate me Leave me alone To you you inner Charles Barkley Give a compliment Barkley mmm for Michael Jordan not yet. All right I'll just give it up. Give me compliments. Okay. I don't wear the crown no mo. Okay. They told me I can't put the Biz back on
Starting point is 02:24:12 They said it if you want to be invited to some parties maybe put that shit down. Well, there's only one King in LA Whoa, whoa, that's what they told me He said LA. They said in LA You say King he did say can't Cuz you said in LA and invited to the parties there's only there's only one part I ain't say nothing about brother love No, I'm just saying I ain't getting on no no no no, okay, I'm just saying. I ain't getting no brunches. Okay, I'm just saying. No brunches for me. Okay, no.
Starting point is 02:24:47 I don't have a party you're talking to. Ladies and gentlemen, I eat lunch only. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by $100 Fantasy World.
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