Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Talks Damian Lillard Trade, Mamba Day and Lonzo's Injury

Episode Date: August 24, 2023

Gilbert Arenas Says Damian Lillard ISN'T Going Anywhere as Gil's Arena checks back in on the Dame Trade saga and the new information stating that the Miami Heat and Portland Trailblazers have reopened... negotiations. Other NBA Topics are Jimmy Butler's tennis debut at the US Open, Lonzo Ball's injury and Stephen A Smith and Kobe Bryant's Lakers Statue. Please Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Chapters Show Start 0:00:00 Intro 0:02:40 Jimmy Butler The Ball Boy 0:11:24 Courtside Seats To Any Game in NBA History 0:18:00 Damian Lillard Trade  0:26:50 Gil's Arena Celebrates Mamba Day 0:42:06 Anthony Edwards is Dwyane Wade 2.0 1:08:00 Dillon Brooks Always Had Lebron 1:16:46 Lonzo Ball's Injury 1:19:42 Struggles with NBA Injuries  1:26:31 Best Advice For Lonzo 1:58:37 Mostly Fans 2:01:06 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:02 Like I said, we got Gilbert Arenas here on the couch. What up? We got Mikko Grimes rocking the Kobe. I'm one step closer. What is that, a jerk? I got a bikini on this show. Is that a bikini? Okay, it's a Kobe swimsuit. Yeah, it's a Kobe swimsuit.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Almost there. Almost there. We got Kenya Martin back here with us. Chats a fan of your shirt. They like what you got going on. I love that shirt. Oh, appreciate it. That's hot.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Appreciate it. They showing their love. Appreciate it, Chats. It's some shoes. You got the Susosu? Yeah, yeah. Turn susos. Oh, yeah. Yeah, turn it up Oh, yeah chick oh I'm gonna start bringing them out the moment. He got them 2004 five. I'm about to start the time easy zone
Starting point is 00:02:40 I was buying grand. I'm gonna run. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm about to start. Yeah, I'm About to start bringing everything out. I'm in the red octopuses. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm about to start, yeah. I'm about to start bringing everything out, you know what I'm saying, when the season starts. I'm going to start showing these. What's going to happen? I'm going to start bringing them out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I love you. I'm about to start bringing them out. Mine got taken by Nick. Yeah, that's... You ain't never got them back? No, no, when I got traded, the ex had a... A sale?
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah, she had a sale. A yard sale? Yeah, yeah had a sale just yeah. Yeah He took my shit That's crazy. Your friend came to you your ex's yard sale and watch Yeah, but he's supposed to come give me give me give him to you. I was in Orlando It was more like come get it I'm giving this shit away, okay That's fine, but I'm gonna come get it come bring your stuff, but it comes that just remember I stole his I stole his Dolce Gabon is and played a game
Starting point is 00:03:37 Not these we can play those games with some of some other shit But don't yeah, we're not gonna play those games with these it's about 200 pair. Yeah 200 oh yeah, I wasn't going back now he can have those yeah That's why you be beating up his son, yeah, yeah, we would have that I'll have to talk to him like private Hopefully child services is not watching this early part of the episode closed room. Just me and him I should reference that shit like yeah, but y'all don't y'all don't see like when when he was playing with the Lakers He pulling out all those gills he wrote
Starting point is 00:04:20 No, he's Nah, yeah everything. Yeah damn. Yeah, that's not all makes sense that's some good friendship I love you and a woman. Oh have it y'all pay take everything Take everything I call them Ranger game We don't play them. That's one thing I know. Kenyon don't play a lot of fucking games. I buy stuff like that, man.
Starting point is 00:04:49 When it's something, yeah, when it's like you and your lady going through something and then they can take it, like, nah, we not going to do that. Like, we not. It's got way bigger than that. Like, nah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm happy. We got to get Nick back on the show so we can discuss all this.
Starting point is 00:05:07 We need to get to the bottom of it. We got to get some of them 200 pairs back, Gil. He don't even care, seemingly. He does not at all. He rich. Nah, I leave it all. I left D.C. with just a pair of shoes so I can play in the game. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:23 That was it. He was done, done. That's when you You know a man done a tree didn't even happen I was already in Orlando. I was in the arena shoot jumpers. I said I'm good fuck what happened? This is the team. I'm Is the team I'm old now had a pair of shoes just radio. That was it. No suitcase. No, none just shoes I could buy everything at the ball That's everything This boy I could buy everything at the mall. Damn. Not everything. This boy here. You wild?
Starting point is 00:05:47 I want it out. Here's what we got cracking today. Maybe I'm petty now. It ain't that bad. Okay, let's move on, man. I'm too petty. I'm bad for him. I'm bad for him, too.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I'm bothered. Because I'm a shoe kind of girl. Nick, you got to address this on a future episode of Gil's Arena. She wasn't with me. Give Gil's shoes back. That was Gil's shoe deal, now. So here's what we got cracking today. Damian Lillard, let it be known, he requested a trade to the Heat,
Starting point is 00:06:16 but will he get his wish? Lonzo Ball clapped back at Stephen A. Smith, but when will we see the former number two overall pick back on the court? And to celebrate Mamba Day, the Lakers made a big announcement. But before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app, use promo code Gills Arena. They will match your first deposit up to $100. Look, you still got WNBA cracking right now.
Starting point is 00:06:39 College football is about to start. NFL is about to start. NBA soon. You might as well get warm now. Take Gills advice. What you 13 and 2 now? I whoa you still 13 to 1 to 31 I made so I made something today okay just look under your points are the I don't think college football college football eat oh yeah yeah underdog baby baby playing them easy. Yeah. Okay, that's the one. Underdog, they be playing them games. They be known.
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Starting point is 00:07:21 But the mother boy. Yeah. Focus on the cupcakes. For sure, for sure. Listen, hey, them non-conference games? Uh-huh. Take it. We're going to find out.
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Starting point is 00:10:11 so we can be like him and Maester. Let's get into it. Everybody knows Jimmy Butler gets buckets on a basketball court, but does his game translate to the tennis court? Video time. Butler pulled up to the US Open they had a I just love the stroller yeah he was a ball boy they had a charity exhibition game I saw
Starting point is 00:10:32 Alcaraz him playing him yeah so between uh was the Carlos Alcaraz and Francis Tiafoe is it Tiafoe Tiafoe he was his coach you are resident tennis expert. Yes. So he was out there getting it, jumped on. This was a nice shot. I ain't gonna hold him. That was nice, because it had a little angle and he wasn't expecting it. It was cute. He got the point. So we talk about basketball a lot on this show, but let's switch it up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:00 What is the best sporting event you've been to? It could be basketball, it could be something else. Basketball. Keep it consistent. You're talking about basketball. What's the best sporting event? Non-sporting event. Non-sporting? Yeah. Non-basketball.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Non-basketball. I've never been to nothing. You don't go to nothing? You've never been to another sporting event? This boy don't want to... No. I believe in him. I honestly believe him. Who the fuck am I watching another sport for just like at the arena you go You're never been to nothing name it's a tennis match Football nothing no damn Yes Yes, I went to the my time the Mike Tyson versus McBride okay, I went to the Mike Tyson vs. McBride.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Is that right? I went to that. I went to that. It was in D.C. When was that? Like 2005. It was his last fight. Did he win?
Starting point is 00:11:55 He was winning. And he quit. Then he quit. Why'd he quit? He had a breakdown on the stool. I was overstepping. He just said that. I got my five mil. Yeah, I don't want to fight no more. He was winning the fight, though. That's smart. Probably saved his life. Some shitty be just say just say you just said I got my five mil. Yeah
Starting point is 00:12:09 Probably saved his life tyrannical tyrant Fuck Mike you better not he will Know I've been in close vicinity to him at a fight and dudes and talking crazy and rowdy Mike Hey, y'all sit y'all goddamn ass down. I was like listen I suggest y'all sit down sit down cuz I'm not gonna hold him back trust you. No, sir You know, it's really you tell it. Oh, yeah, man. They got it like yo man We was in the club in Phoenix. He acts and talked to mellow mellow didn't want to go over the middle of me I better come with me We creeped over there like Mike.
Starting point is 00:12:45 Hey, Mike. But none basketball event? Yeah. When I was, went to a Pete Sampras match when I was in college in Cincinnati. Okay. Who? Pete Sampras, tennis. Oh, tennis match.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Oh, God. Pete Sampras was that deal. Yeah, he was playing, what was his kid? the guy who was playing like 6'5 European dude at the time. That thing was, yo, that ball was moving. I was like, yo. Yeah. While you was in college, in your mind and conscience, went to a tennis match?
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yeah, because, yeah. Why? What is wrong with that? Yeah. ATP. Wrestling? Yeah, it, ATP. I just UFC I'm it's a backyard fighting. Okay. It's a hockey game. I like when I play for the Nets We were in the finals at the same time as the Devils. Okay, I'm into hockey like good
Starting point is 00:13:42 The New Jersey Devils hockey team. Yeah, they play Yeah, we went that we were in the finals at the same time. You surprised me man. I'm thinking this backyard Kimbo slice type shit Man I didn't I didn't been to that in the scene. I'd have been to a river to the river dance You know, I'm seeing that live And tap dance. Yeah, I'm well-vers dance. Yeah, I'm well versed, Gil. I'm just not... Don't let me put my paws on people fool you. You know what I'm saying? That was... Getting that 94-50, I just black out.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Got a lot of different... You know what I'm saying? Okay. It's like an onion. Yeah, like an onion. You just got laid. Like an onion, yeah. All right. Mika, how about yourself? Best sport? When I, my first love was soccer.
Starting point is 00:14:27 I played soccer before basketball. And, like I probably told y'all, I couldn't control my temper when I was a kid. So I started playing basketball. But when I started playing overseas, I started going to professional soccer matches. There's nothing like it in the world. They lit the fucking stadium on fire because they won. No. Like, they started a fire in the stands.
Starting point is 00:14:50 They never sit down. They stand up. They yell. They chant. They hold flags. Like, it's intense from the time you walk into the arena to the game's over. And when they lit the stadium on fire, I was like, this is epic. Like, this is epic fandom.
Starting point is 00:15:05 You won and you burned your stadium down. I got to see that. That shit is crazy. I got to participate in a basketball game overseas and a soccer game overseas. Yes. Like, I don't want to go. There was a time when, you know how you like watch soccer on TV, right? And I'd never seen a live goal. Yeah
Starting point is 00:15:26 Like as long as I why I mean I've seen it now but for like almost like 15 years I'll put it on watch it for our come go leave come back the scores to zero Americans don't like Scoring for them. They don't they don't appreciate the actual skill of the game. They just here we we just want score, score, score, score. Soccer. It's like tag. They just running back and forth and shit. It's not.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Just up and down. Just running around. Just running around. You it! Like to watch professionals do it? No. Like I went to the game recently at the Rose Bowl. Me and KJ, I went to two games recently to watch them good teams move it up late.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, that shit is elite. Oh yeah yeah, no that ball moving in a little way. They know where they're doing. It is so crazy I can't even play soccer. I can't even play FIFA Shit boring the video You just not good that's all and then I watch football because how I play football or Madden and don't translate to how they play You know I mean 14 17 I'm going for it every time Because it damn so coming up punt every time. Yeah, yeah. He going to formation. I seen some. I seen his defense.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I got some. And they going to run a prevent, and you ain't going to never get it. And then you get the ball. Yeah, every time. Yeah. So I know all y'all been to tons of basketball games, but if you could sit courtside for any NBA game ever, which game you picking? Ever?
Starting point is 00:17:00 Ever? You could be courtside for any NBA game in the history? 1980. Game six. Magic? Magic Johnson. They put him at the center. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:17:12 As a rookie. When Kareem was out? Yeah, they put him as a rookie. And he had like 40-something. Yeah, he had to score all the games. Oh, that was a crazy game. Yeah, I would like to see just the desperation of one team because they're losing their Hall of Famer,
Starting point is 00:17:32 and then they're putting a rookie in, and the rookie's just doing, I got this. Yeah, I got to. I probably would have. That was good. But I would pick when LeBron beat the Warriors. 2016? Yeah. I would have when LeBron beat the Warriors. 2016? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I would have loved to be there just to laugh at them losing, going up 3-1 and losing. That would have been pretty fun. Oh, that was the Iggy block. Yes. Was it a block or a go-to? It was a block. Thank you. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:18:00 He would know. What was it, Ken? It was a block. Thank you. It was a block. Good timing. That would have been a great game Is this cold you gotta hold that in You gotta hold that one in you gotta mess up your whole face
Starting point is 00:18:24 People start looking at you now when you sneeze you on that sugar whole face. Ah, okay, that hurt. Put your face in his shirt. Yeah, yeah. Sneeze, yeah, yeah. He was starting to look at you now when you sneezed. You want that sugar now,
Starting point is 00:18:27 yeah? We're going to have everybody come snitch on you. That old booger.
Starting point is 00:18:30 84 boogers. Can't help but to say. Any game, any game in the history of the league? What I was
Starting point is 00:18:37 going to say, it was morbid, but. Probably when the Pistons won their first title about what like 89 yeah probably one 88 89 yeah one of them games okay you're one of them finals games okay for sure for sure none of y'all want to go to see will's game yeah what i was 100 the peak of racism yeah what i was yeah i was gonna say it was I was gonna say was it was horrible.
Starting point is 00:19:06 What was it? Say it, please. Oh, no, when, when my mother and Kermit Washington punched Rudy T. Dog, they said that shit sounded like a gunshot. I'm sure. Hey, man. He broke his face. He broke his face. Broke his face. Frack. Man, never played again.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Damn. Kermit, listen, man, broke again Kermit listen man broke this man like she broke his nose his orbital bone is Listen, yes, I'm like boxing training. I mean, it's like he's all lifting weights. He was just strong as an Accuracy was lifting weights and that man was running towards him. He just listened to force me to he just die Yeah, it's a that's just like a gunshot now It's a rude's just like a gunshot now. It's a rude screaming Run up no more. Oh we did We would love to say the hundred right everybody would love to say the hundred but really got slaughtered a bit more 100 It was gonna be tough leaving the arena. You would have paid it out.
Starting point is 00:20:06 100. Like, how good was the competition for you to score 100? Right? I mean, so that's not going to be a game that you, like, oh, yeah, we're about to watch some exciting basketball. He scored 100. Just pass it. Like, I mean, come on.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I mean, that. He right in front. They ain't called it three seconds. They just right in front of the ring. It's like, it's it. I mean, come on. He's right in front. They ain't called it three seconds. It's like it's it's. But now that's, now, when you think about it, that's the same time as Bill Russell. He's jumping up and dropping everything like this. That's the same time as Bill Russell. So, you know, when I have the comparison, you tell me to go back in history and look at the talent, and you have a guy who's scoring hundred he averaged 50
Starting point is 00:20:47 How are you averaging 18? Yeah, that don't even make sense to me. Like I don't care How skilled he was over everybody was just as athletic and he's scoring 50 you're scoring 18 That doesn't even make sense to me. Yeah, just jump just grab throw it up jump touch jump touch it everybody five five Yes, but how does the work I can have a mic and really 31 was a 40 40 percent on the mic Creed the mic a drill shot 40% He got to get that name That might be why they called it that he was always fucking the drill up. Who he was.
Starting point is 00:21:28 He couldn't even do it. That's why they called it that. That's why it had to be like a negative. That's why they had to get down to what they named it that. So no takers for the Kobe 81-point game or MJ game six? Like, I watched the Kobe game on TV live. Like, I watched it. Because we was playing Toronto the next day.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Like, I was scouting, like, watching. Because we were playing Toronto. You know, I'm watching the team we're about to play. Yeah. And, yeah. I think the Jordan games, who thought they weren't going to win? That's why I was like, I wouldn't pick that. But the Lakers, the LeBron game with against the Warriors out for sure
Starting point is 00:22:06 Beautiful, I got like I would want to be at a game back like before like television You know, I mean some of them a B8 games where it's just Locked in. Yeah. Yeah Where you like you you had to like be there to see it or pistol Peteistol Pete. Yeah. Somebody like that. Like who people was like, man, this is magic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that's what I said. Even like the 80s
Starting point is 00:22:29 when magic was coming in, like the arena, like if you look at those arenas then, they have, they do not look like today. No, because you can't see. It's full of smoke.
Starting point is 00:22:39 They ain't been smoking cigarettes. Shit. But like you get, but the fans back then were fans. Yeah. Shit. Yeah. But like you get- They ain't smoking in that month. But the fans back then were fans. Yeah. Today it's celebrities just want to look at each other.
Starting point is 00:22:50 It's cute, yeah. That's the thing about Lakers games, especially in the playoffs, every additional series it just got worse and worse from a viewing- That's what I said. If I was the owner, man, my bottom row going to be real fanatics. You did say that and I was like, you'd have a tear up your money would be I mean if the team's worth You know 10 billion what I'm good. All right, you know what I mean? I'm good. I need this arena to be I Need that over sale. I see that over
Starting point is 00:23:18 Real fans get the thorns up meta player go some out of pocket. Yeah, I'm gonna kick him out I'm gonna just move his seat. I'm just going to the other side. They won't know. What the fuck I'm kicking my fan out for? My fan doing their job. I think about it. My fan bought his tickets for season tickets and the NBA come down and say,
Starting point is 00:23:36 you got to kick this fan out. Well, I'm stupid. No, we're just going to move your seat across. Throw the switch. Yeah, yeah. Just throw the switch. So to that point, right, how can you...
Starting point is 00:23:47 Do they do facial recognition like arenas? They do. They do? Yes. Because I was going to say, just say if you ban me from an arena, right?
Starting point is 00:23:58 I'm just not going to purchase the tickets in my name. Right. They have cameras. They have cameras and they're looking for people. Are they? Yes. They ain't scanning the 300s.
Starting point is 00:24:08 They ain't scanning the 300s. It's at the entrance. The cameras are at the entrance. Serious? Yes. They're really looking for them. They do it at concerts. It's creepy, but they do. I didn't know they do facial recognition.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You didn't fly out of Baltimore I flew out of Baltimore after we did the staff interview and they took the picture at the airport the first time I'd ever seen That shit. Yeah Events. Oh, yeah when I go like like like you're shit to your I walk up to the thing They said you good. Mr. Martin. I'll say Fuck Are you being like like like the kid who who was sleeping on a WNBA. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:47 He's banned. How you going to tell the man to put a fake mustache on? Unless you come in in disguise or something like that. Yeah, they have those cameras. Because they have people on like wanted lists. Man, give me your money. That man bought four front rows, man. That's how they catch a lot of people on like wanted lists and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:25:02 They try to be casual and go to a sporting event. And they see them there and they come and get them. That's not my job. That's not whose job? That's not my job to find out who's wanted. He paid. He paid. But you already got the money.
Starting point is 00:25:14 He paid. That's one thing. But how can you really implement somebody being banned when they like... I think they got that at Madison Square Garden. I believe Dolan did it. I believe Sometimes people do they job to me listen check the ticket put the person in security you looking for weapons and shit All right. I don't care who's banned. He paid his ticket. Just let him in. All right, just let him in
Starting point is 00:25:37 All right, let him do what he do So we talked about Jimmy Butler, who's on the heat. Now we got to talk about another gentleman who would like to be his teammate. Damian Lillard did an exclusive interview with Mark J. Spears of Anscaped during his Formula Zero League camp last week and offered his thoughts, or lack thereof, on the Blazers along with the desire to move on with his career. I'm not going to speak on the Blazers. It's a lot of love and respect, but I don't, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:09 I won't speak on the Blazers. It's well documented that there have been a trade request to the Miami Heat. Is there anything that you could say about the trade request? I can say that there there was and I would just prefer not to speak on the trailblazers oh hey that formula zero sweaters is nice I need that yeah I'm gonna hit Dame after that. I need that. That's nice. You and the family, it shouldn't be too hard, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:48 We can be all in a collab together. Quick text? Mm-hmm. When are we gonna start getting Adidas gear for the show? Oh, I already begged the other day. I'm not pressing, because I did get the shoes. I'm not pressing. I'm just saying. I mean, y'all know I got unlimited. All I do is just gotta sit behind the... Okay, so when are we getting the shoes? All I just need is send mean, y'all know I got unlimited. All I do is just got to sit behind a computer.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Okay, so when are we getting those? All I just need is send me sizes and stuff, and I get to type it. Oh, yeah, I told you. When is your limit turning into our limit? Yeah. He asked me when I walked in today. You didn't send me a text message. I said, I forgot. But I damn sure am.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Trust me. I got what I asked for, so that's why I'm not pressing. Oh, for sure. He's going to be like, damn, this boy greedy. I'm just being honest. I said unlimited. Exit, exit, exit. That shirt you had on Tuesday. That shirt you had on Tuesday. He's gonna be like damn this boy greedy Sure you had on Tuesday, I think I could rock that one too. Okay. That was the what the salmon and the one I was Yeah, they want to know if you could buy you these Actually, I have to I have to tell them I want Yeezys because Yeezy or any celebrity celebrity,
Starting point is 00:27:51 like them rappers and stuff, they're exclusive. So some of the stuff you have to just ask. And if it's in Warehouse, if I said, yo, give me some of Yeezys, it'd be like, oh, shit. Whatever. Yeah. Yeezys, Yeezys. It was hard. Even Gucci stuff. I said you'll give me some of Yeezy's it'd be like the old shit Yeah Like even like Gucci stuff like I didn't even know they had a collab. Yeah, that's your dope about Beyonce the Ivy Park stuff
Starting point is 00:28:14 But you have to get that like you soon as that soon as it dropped you got to be online cuz it Even somebody weird is do huh? They even for you Yeah, because once it's online you got it then you got a call to see if they actually still have it which most of time It's gone. Somebody did this deal. Huh? You say even for you? Yeah. Because once it's online, then you got to call to see if they actually still have it, which most of the time they don't. They selling it.
Starting point is 00:28:29 Yeah. They going to sell it before they give it away. Trust me. One thing for sure, they about the economics now. Right. They going to sell it before- Usually her stuff is gone, so you have to be- On it.
Starting point is 00:28:39 It's the ugly stuff too. You be all silver sweatpants, like come on. The clearance, it should be hidden in the outlets. Yeah, yeah. It'd be all silver sweatpants. Like, come on. The clearance and shit that'd be hitting the outlets? Yeah, yeah. It'd be like lime green holes in the shit. Like, come on. I can't wear that shit. So the Blazers and Heat have reengaged trade talks,
Starting point is 00:28:55 but the Blazers are looking for a big haul for their former franchise player. Gil, start with you. Do the Blazers need to do right by Dame? And at what point are they going to get this deal done? I mean, at this point, it's do right by themselves, right? You know, he wants out. Cool. I just need to match what he's worth to us.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Like, you know, he's a Hall of Famer, you know, top 75, right? He ain't top 75. I need something back. I need some pieces back that's going to match, you know, what he brings. Pieces, picks. Yeah, pieces, picks. I need some pieces back that's going to match what he brings. Pieces, picks. Yeah, pieces, picks. I need something. They're talking about four first-round picks, two pick swaps,
Starting point is 00:29:33 Jovich, Jaime Jaquez, Tyler Hero going somewhere else with a three-team. Dame's 33 years old. Does it get to a point where if you're the Heat, do you not want to give away too much, or do you say just bankroll it? I mean, the Heat went to the finals. I think they're trying to figure out if they can win within the next three years. They went to the finals twice in the last three years. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:53 They're trying to, you know. I got a question for you guys. So we were talking about James Harden and the situation with him. Do you see this happening to Dame? Like, let's say he doesn't want to play. Does he become a nuisance? Do they try to make him look bad? Do they try like I don't think so, but he's been he's been nothing but upstanding and
Starting point is 00:30:13 Respectful and there's no bad blood Nobody's gonna but see no one's gonna believe that if you try to paint a real bad narrative on them No, I mean, yeah His his track record, his sheet is clean. But what if he doesn't, what if he says, I'm not playing?
Starting point is 00:30:30 Does that change anything? No, no. They don't try to take his money, find conduct detrimental, fine him? That's right. Are they going to do all that? Not right away, I don't think.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Because it's, like I said, if there was something else there, I believe, but I don't think right away away, I don't think. Because it's, like I said, if there was something else there, I believe. But no, I don't think right away. But I don't think he would do that. He a hooper. You know what I'm saying? So, but.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I mean, it seems like they'll get this done before training camp starts then to avoid all that shit. You never know, bro. Listen, they're not just, one thing they've proven. Not going to just. They're not just going to give him away. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? And if I, one thing for sure, two things for certain,
Starting point is 00:31:08 if Chauncey Billups has any say-so in this, no, I'm not, no. I'm here for this to do right. No, we're not doing that. You know what I'm saying? I just, that man too competitive. You know what I'm saying? If he has any say-so, you know what I'm saying? So you're saying like he You know he has anything you know I'm saying
Starting point is 00:31:25 So you saying like he's gonna try to keep him or is he gonna get like we want him to stay of course we want a hell of a talent, but His approach would be we did we're not just gonna give him away But I don't want today whatever they bring to him for his players if he has any say so I'm saying within the decision-making which I Think the head coach, some influence, some, I don't know how much, but. Not enough.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Not enough, but not enough, but you know what I'm saying? But they're not just going to, like if they're asking him his opinion on the situation, then he's going to give his honest opinion. And no, we don't want those guys, or this guy doesn't fit with what I'm trying to do as far as what we're trying to accomplish.
Starting point is 00:32:06 And I don't, that's just my, what I think, you know what I'm saying. But no, I don't think they're just going to give him away, man, at this point. And obviously, NBA opened up an investigation a few weeks ago into this whole situation. And there have been some talk about them potentially trying to veto this trade to send a message to other players like Harden that are trying to force their way out of spots. Do you see a whirlwind here, that type of shit happens? happens or it in everybody's best interest just to get this deal done Let everybody move on I mean And I mean in reality it's you know
Starting point is 00:32:38 Adam works for the owners Right and you know as an owner You're not gonna tell me That I have to turn down deals because a player wants to come to my team, right? That's the luxury of me being in Miami. That's the luxury of me being in Los Angeles, right? I have that effect on players that this is the city they want to be in. So you're not going to just start penalizing me as an owner because that's just my business. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:33:08 So they'll try it, but, you know, obviously we can see, you know, how the Lakers have, you know, panned out and, you know, these decades of years, they're going to get the super talents that they need because of who they are. Yeah, I just think it's going to be, they're sending the message that if it is investigation going on
Starting point is 00:33:28 that we're not just, like they want to level the playing field. You know what I'm saying? They want other teams to have opportunity at Dame, whether him just loading the deck in my, you know what I'm saying, they want other teams to be able to put a trade together. And that's what they afraid that that's going to happening you know what I'm saying compete for the yeah yeah like I want to go play here and I don't want to go nowhere else like like no you don't control that
Starting point is 00:33:54 that's what they're gonna try to do but how much can they do that because that's what we've seen with Dame when other teams were mentioned like look I'm not gonna be happy here so y'all can try to make the trade if you want to would you you want him if he doesn't want to be there? Like, what does that do to your locker room, to everything, if you go get him and he's like, I don't want to be here? Yeah, and that's why I think he's staying in Portland, because... How many years you got left? Let me pull it up.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I think there's two. If he got, like, two, three, I mean, if he got two, three... I think it's, like, shit, three or four, but... I ain't doing nothing. I'm not's two. If he got like two, three, I mean, if he got two, three. I think it's like, shit, three or four, but. I ain't doing nothing. I'm not doing nothing. I'm going to chill. I'm not doing nothing. Dame is off the trading blocks.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Sorry. You're the owner? Yeah. Okay. You do have the leverage. He's got four years. Yeah, nah. Katie had a similar situation with the Nets.
Starting point is 00:34:49 It was like, yo, get me the fuck out of here. I don't give a fuck about what they talk. That's the problem with these... Listen, even with LeBron and his decision, it wasn't no real decision. If I can get a sign and trade, the decision is you go there for 80 million because that's all they can give you.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I'm not going to give you my 120 then trade you. No, no, no. Real decision is I got 120, they got 80. Good luck. I'm not going to sign you for what you want and then trade you to the team you are. Same thing with that. I have you for four more years. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:35:23 That's fine. I got shit. I got time on my hands. We got practice at two. We on you for four more years. Good luck. That's fine. I got time on my hands. We got to practice it, too. You want to make the all-star? You want to make the all-in? It's not a James Harden situation. We got one year, and it's not that.
Starting point is 00:35:34 No. It's going to make it four. But that's why I think it's going to be drama. At an alarming numbers. Yes. That's why I think it's going to be drama, though. Like, four years? Like, he's not going to sit there for four years.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Like, he's just not. It's going to be drama. Drama? What do you mean? Like, I'm not playing. gonna sit there for four years. I just just not do it's gonna be drama Drama to what I mean, like I'm not playing it's gonna move. They're gonna like try to tarnish his name. I don't gotta do nothing He's not playing He's not playing. I don't got I don't that's the organization I don't have to do nothing if you're not gonna put if you're not cool if you're not gonna play that's your reputation That's your legacy That's another all-star game you can't make. That's another NBA thing.
Starting point is 00:36:08 You're 33. 34, 35, you don't make it? Ooh. Then you go to another team that's stacked. That means this was the last of your makings. That's probably what he wants out. He probably feels like, I only got about three more years of this caliber, and I want to do it somewhere where I can actually win
Starting point is 00:36:25 He doesn't feel like he can win it for me is 33. It was crazy is so he's got a player option 2026 2027 at 63.2 million, but that may end up looking like a bargain down the road Right the way you know after this new deal with these guys is getting now was 60 million to bargain in three years How y'all feel about that? I'm crazy. I know, I know. 62, you said, right?
Starting point is 00:36:49 It don't matter what it was. It's a six. Man, listen. When I signed it, I'm opting in. Man, whatever. You're landing five years. Man, you're five. I'm opting in now.
Starting point is 00:37:03 No question about it. Listen, no question about it. I'm opting in now. No question about it. Listen, no question about it. I'm opting in now. I'm opting out of shit. You know, it's funny, because you remember when Magic signed that 25-25? That was a good- Everybody thought that was a good-ass deal.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Oh, shit, big money. That was one a year. One year, he was like, I'm out. That was one a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. But that was amazing. But that was amazing then, though. 62 point whatever it is. Jordan was one a year. Yeah. Yeah. Okay cool, but that was amazing, but that was amazing then though 62 point
Starting point is 00:37:27 Whatever it is Jordan was making three million people making 40 now, you know, I mean you making 60 But do you think that's why that older generation is really making 60 year one? Yeah, they saw two even not even Give me that 60 we talk later Four years. I'm gonna be 30. Well, he's 33 now in four years. I'm gonna be 30 Give me that 62 at 37 years old Shit, I mean that might start off it that that new contract might start off at see how to go win it Man win the championship to get tag Not if you stay important
Starting point is 00:38:03 Is guaranteed Not if you stay important That is guaranteed Yeah, go in your three listen I need to and if the number seven then yeah, but yeah, I get you but now 62 boy You better have a seat How can you negotiate with a world for the mix How we all see those numbers are y'all getting bread in your Just like I was Who needs some water The water boy be winning that time when you coming back
Starting point is 00:38:43 See you at the club. Yes, sir. Club clothes on at the game. You ain't got to go changing nothing. So here are the contracts currently on the books for 2026, 2027, according to SportTrack. So Dame at 63.2, AD at 59, Joker at 59, and Beat at 59. Seabook at 57.6, Cat at 57.6, Bradley Beal at 57.1 million.
Starting point is 00:39:08 That shit is wild. When you really... I see why y'all saw it. I'm going to be honest. I saw the look of black excellence right there. I love it. I see why y'all... Girl, there's been black excellence since they merged back in 19... Exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Black excellence. Yes. I want it to keep going higher and higher and higher. Let it keep going up. But is that just crazy for y'all to even think about? Because I know the older generation, like my dad and them generation, they're hot. I ain't hot. I'm just, I just, no, I'm just saying shit.
Starting point is 00:39:33 But I mean, back then, I'm pretty sure compared to America, that was, yeah, but. Yeah, well, who was making them? Yeah, it was people. You guys both have kids about to, to well I assume yours is already there y'all about to roll into that new money we ain't do they I mean yeah it's gonna be in the family I don't teach you go backwards I teach you go forward oh yeah oh yeah he bought it's gonna keep the rest of my generation he bought to be in a great situation that's a grandkid he take care you kids you don't look at me
Starting point is 00:40:04 huh I'm fine that's rare that's rare you know baby in a great situation. I told grandkids. He'd take care you kids. You don't look at me, huh? I'm fine That's rare You know babies in a black community. Yeah, I don't think black me I think white community Right, they kid they teach day kids to take care of a kids not you make money to take care of me That's moving the money back Because by the time those kids get old enough that they ain't got no money. Yeah So his kids can do the same thing. He was doing nah You're gonna be babysitting who for your kids kids. Yeah. Yes, he is
Starting point is 00:40:34 When so I need a 30,000 real quick I'll be like child support. I got your son. I mean negotiate with the very mom Junior Junior need a new crib This gold one all gold I'm over there myself. I'm black Let's keep this a movie so yesterday would have been Kobe's 45th birthday. We talked about it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:41:11 But today we got to keep the good times rolling because it is officially Mamba Day. Yes. Yes, sir. Here we go in the Kobe swimsuit. I can't see the numbers. My pants is too high. It's all good. We outside. We know it's 24.
Starting point is 00:41:19 We know it's a 24. Yes. So to celebrate, the Lakers and Vanessa Bryant made a special announcement. Hi, everyone. As you know, Kobe played his entire 20-year NBA career as a Los Angeles Laker. Since arriving in the city and joining
Starting point is 00:41:36 the Lakers organization, he felt at home here, playing in the City of Angels. On behalf of the Lakers, my daughters, and me, I'm so honored that right in the center of Los Angeles, in front of the place known as the house that Kobe built, we are going to unveil his statue
Starting point is 00:41:52 so that his legacy can be celebrated forever. Hope to see you there. That's hard. One of the best parts of that video, she did not acknowledge Crypto.com Arena's existence. Thank God. We are not doing that. Because that name might change one day.
Starting point is 00:42:12 You never know. It'll always be Staples Center. And I ain't seen a Staples since like, shit, 2015? I don't even know Staples. They been holding off for dear life with that shit. But have y'all ever been to Staples? Have you been in the mother? Yeah. The yes oh it's a store yeah you know what i'm fucking tired under a rock they give it to you in school like what i'm going to the stables for they give it
Starting point is 00:42:40 to you in school like you are crazy yo are you when I ran out they just say teacher this was a hermit you live under a rock he does he stays in the house Huh what do you go outside gas? That's it for the gym pick the kids up from school I'm surprised you don't have a gas station yet on your property. I was thinking about that and then I seen What's his name? Africa a car. I said that was a bad investment. I've actually been to his and used it. That was dumb right? In Atlanta. I don't know if he's done or not. At his house? Yes the house in Atlanta he had one. Yes and I've been there. It's dope but I didn't know it was a bad investment until you just said that. I mean technically when you think
Starting point is 00:43:23 about it because you're gonna get it for wholesale, right? Mm-hmm Look You'll get it at whole so you wouldn't get it for the price that they know That's it would be six by six dollars. Not at all That's what they're charging us, huh? They're charging us six dollars a gallon Okay, California, can he sell can he sell the gas? No he can't do that right? No it was just for his house and then his guests and stuff like that. So enough okay. It's like six out here right now. You gotta make business decisions.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Florida is three dollars. It's crazy. It's hard out here. I mean but Florida makes what seven dollars an hour still? Nobody says $7, Gil, that I know of, no. That's a good rate. That's probably like North Dakota or something. They're going to shut your business down in 2023. You paying somebody $7. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Labor laws, man. But let's shift it back. Let's talk Kobe a little bit. That's awesome. We got two Los Angelinos. One Los Angelino transplant. You're out here now. You official.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Wait, what? I'm not? I said two Los Angelinos. Oh, yeah, you tell me. I don't include my... I just host. Do you claim Tampa? No.
Starting point is 00:44:39 What do you claim? I claim the Valley. The Valley? Mm-hmm. Okay. Van Nuys, baby, slash North Hollywood. He claims L.A. You went to high school here, right?
Starting point is 00:44:48 High school, grant? Elementary, gym. Oh, so you L.A.? Yes. Oh, yeah. I'm not L.A. I'm the Valley. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:44:56 No. No. He let you know how to break the other side, girl. If you live in the Valley, you do not say L.A. You're right. You're right. California, but the Valley. valley your annual middle school Valley Okay. Okay, you know, Sherman Oaks Elementary
Starting point is 00:45:12 Associated with us ghetto. Yeah. No Sherman Oaks Elementary Hill We together We know it like you had a lunch ticket Your lunch coffee over there waiting for that pizza on Friday No, thank you. Nobody want that free shit. The dry ass Subway. They said that dry ass Subway. No condiments.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Shut up. Real mayonnaise. Miracle whip. You still gonna fuck it up, but nonetheless. He dead whipped. What does Kobe mean to the Lakers and to the city of LA? Everything. I mean, it's like that American superhero, right? Was at the top, fell, and then climbed back to the top, finishing off as a hero.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And that's what, I think that's every action hero movie we've ever seen is that the Kobe story. You know, on top of the world, fall down to come back to the top and, you know, retire as a hero again. I think it's amazing that LeBron came to this city and every Laker fan hated him like he can't even like that's so crazy to me that he's loved that much that his fan base hates lebron like that shows you right there that he owns la and lebron is like you know arguably the greatest player to ever play basketball and they're just like nah nah we don't want him on the court this is kobe's court this kobe's house and you would think they would embrace him just just being a laker and just you know yeah but no this This is Kobe's house. And you would think they would embrace him just being a Laker and just, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:05 But no, this is Kobe's house. And people really hate LeBron for that. So you just got to understand that this is his city. What's wild is I'm obviously a big-time LeBron fan. There used to be so much beef between Kobe and LeBron fans forever going at each other. She got really nasty. But then you go watch the Redeem team, Doc, and you see how much them dudes fucked with each other, how much they liked each other.
Starting point is 00:47:25 You look corny just even being mad now, but they still corny. They still hate him. It's weird. I mean, I think, yeah, when he first came, it was like, yo, you just Hollywood. You're not really coming here to do shit. Then, obviously, in 2020, Kobe's tragic passing, but what the Lakers were able to do in the bubble, win that championship, kind of. But then, right next year, like, you know, they get smacked by the sun.
Starting point is 00:47:45 It was right back to like, get him out of here. Get him out of here. It's the ebbs and flows. But, King, how about yourself? Oh yeah, nah, he became here a kid, man. Grew up here, became a man. Like Gil said, went through trials, tribulations,
Starting point is 00:48:00 you know what I'm saying, but to bounce back and become the man and the hero that he became, you know what I'm saying, that's dope. You know what I'm saying but to bounce back and become the man and and the hero that he became no I'm saying I that's that's dope I'm saying uh, yeah, we last day yesterday we Graduated high school the same year. You know I'm saying so now we Share that bond in ways and coming out of high school playing all that like ABCD and all that but yeah, no easy LA man he grew up here he family everything is LA so now I get why people feel away you know I'm saying about brown but yeah but this man came here to do with their't been there. But Kobe, he is that man.
Starting point is 00:48:46 And the statue thing is... Easy. We got to get the show up there. We got to get the Gills Arena. If Underdog can, we might have to do a GoFundMe to see if we can... Lasers around that motherfucker. Yeah, but I want to shout Vanessa out, though, man. Like, she's strong, man.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Man. Like, that's strong. Yeah. strong man like that's that's strong yeah like she like at the ceremony and like everything from that point on everything that she has done to continue his legacy and and to be above man she lost a husband and a child you know like yeah let's not forget that she lost a child in this moment as well man so for her to still be here and strong and vibrant and being able to, I'm saying, be there for her. She still has family that she has to worry about, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:30 So I want to give her a shout out, man. She deserves it, you know what I'm saying? So let's talk about Kobe a little bit. So yesterday we talked about Steph versus Magic, and you talked about Magic coming to the Lakers, that squad. But let's talk about Kobe coming to the Lakers. 17 years old. I think he turned 18 going into that season.
Starting point is 00:49:49 But you know L.A. I mean, y'all all been here. Y'all know, you know, the temptation that comes with this city. Yeah. So for him to be able to lock in for 20 years, get five chips, not get caught up in that whole shit, does that add to his legacy in more, you know, if you're making a GOAT debate, whatever it may be, can you use that in that argument? No, I mean, when he, when, and this goes out to every other organization, too.
Starting point is 00:50:14 When you have a young talent and you really think that's your future, you have to protect it, right? You know, you have to protect it from its age. And I think Lakers did a great job with understanding that a 17-year-old kid in Los Angeles, open world, open city, that they needed to protect him. Even from the team, they told the team that he was the only player that they couldn't rookie haze from the jump like he's off limits do not do anything when don't when you you can't try to break him right and from that day he already had that that full protection and we got to see the blossom of it right and i think that's i don't think that every organization really understands that. No matter how much money a person has, at a certain age, he's still that kid.
Starting point is 00:51:09 18, 19, 20, that's still a 20-year-old kid. No matter how old he sounds, he's still a child. You still have to protect the child from himself. Absolutely. 1,000%. I also think just him being in a relationship young too, like that changes everything. When you're single, you got to have more temptations. You have more outside influences.
Starting point is 00:51:31 You're running around with your friends and all that. If you get into a relationship, a good relationship, I think the woman you choose as your partner can make or break your career. And I think Vanessa did a great job of just keeping him home for the most part. You know, he had his issues and things like that, but I think that your home being stable and somewhere you actually want to be helps you with your career. I'm just saying, from y'all two's perspective, imagine where you were at at 17 years old,
Starting point is 00:52:02 and now you got to go to the Lakers, be in the locker room with 30 year old grown-ass man Who got families who got kids close to your age? Yeah, but then like you said I did a new and They did it like it like they did a good job at Sam putting them in this bubble This is what we need and Yeah, so I get it man on and it and fair like but to your point Joe like it's for him to be in this city of
Starting point is 00:52:33 That's what AC green shit so hard to believe In this city like it's an on that team It's hard to believe no sand but coming in as a 17 18 year old kid is like you playing in this city, like, it's, and on that team, like, it's hard to believe. You know what I'm saying? But coming in as a 17, 18-year-old kid, it's like you playing in this city. Like, I came out here at 22 when I got hurt. And I was out there being like a deer in headlights. Like, just.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Looking. Like, wow. Everything. You know what I'm saying? Everything is that. In fact, man, I can only imagine coming coming out here you a multimillionaire at that age I'm saying you got the world at your feet. Mm-hmm Yeah, he handled it Well, that's the thing about LA to you and just on a broader scale
Starting point is 00:53:15 You got people that come from all over the country all over the world chasing their dreams out here But get caught up in that lifestyle They think the club and all that shit is where LA is, and that's not the real... The only thing that separated them, like, he wasn't chasing... He already had money, so that's the thing. You know what I'm saying? When you're trying to make money,
Starting point is 00:53:35 then that's different than you already having it. But if you already have it, what I'm saying, now you have the ability to go get tables, go do whatever. Absolutely do whatever you want. You have a lot more freedom and flexibility in this city. Also, circumstances actually stops that shit too, to be honest. You coming in and you have, you're just the number one player in the country, you're this, and then you sitting on the bench.
Starting point is 00:53:57 Got to fuck with you too. I don't want a part with you. And then two, they wasn't letting you young ass in back then. You know what I'm saying? No, they was not. Trust me. Them years? No, they wasn't letting you in. They wasn't letting you in.
Starting point is 00:54:15 17, 18, 19. No, they wasn't letting you in. Listen, I came out here with DeMar Johnson at 19 years old. I was 22. We was about to be drafted together. And we would go to places. They would jam me up. They would pull up. Yeah, I was 22
Starting point is 00:54:27 No, you know, you're 19. It's because they Should get lose their liquor like I would be rude like 2000 UCLA. We was pulling up to me. Yagi's with Jamie Foxx Came in the velour. Like, we had no business being up in that. Velour, yeah, the velour. The Ditas came with the velour. We had no business being up in that motherfucker. You remember the Good Bar? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:51 That's what I used to go to when I was a child. The Good Bar, yeah. On Sunset and Doheny. Yeah. Right there. That's when I used to party with Jamie Foxx. But you had Miyagi's. You had Dublin's right across it. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:55:00 And we were all like, oh, shit. She said the late 90s. But then we would see people like y'all way more bread High school, I'm trying I can't even go to 18 over yet We had a couple guys show the practice practice one day with the leftover red bits. Niggas were like, what the fuck was y'all doing last night? What? We was in the 18 and over section.
Starting point is 00:55:29 It ain't took showering or thought about bathing. Nope. It went straight. Oh, I had those days, too. I didn't bathe. Straight to practice. No shower. But for that man to stay focused, I heard, man, was amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:42 This is a true story. I bet it is. I'm not. I bet it is. I'm not... I bet it is. So, something happened in... This is like his rookie year. Something happened in the locker room or on the court where he got hit by a player. He got hit. What do you mean hit?
Starting point is 00:55:58 Slap. Like... Yeah. So, he left. Boom. Went to an Adidas shoot. Went to go do his Adidas commercial, right? Fuck that, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:56:08 And they said the whole organization showed up. Wow. This is a rookie. All the buses. The cousins of the bus, everybody. The babies of the bus, everybody showed up. Kobe, just don't worry. It'll never happen again.
Starting point is 00:56:25 We promise. It was one of those. The people on the set was like, we've never seen anything like it. We're talking about a kid who ain't scored a bucket yet. He ain't done nothing. And you had the whole bus family show up to reassure him that it'll never happen again. Please don't demand nothing. We're good. We'll talk it was one of those see y'all Like damn. Yeah, Johnny bus and from the beginning boy
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah, man So current or former players miss showing showing their love across social media Including Kobe's former teammate Trevor Ariza who shared 11 legendary text exchange They had that we got the photo so PA said Kobe the photo him shooting over three dudes Kobe said me so much I already posted that that's all you can't argue with their logic That is some shit Gil would say because look if no one got that read by he'll be mad On me why don't you get the rebound that is cold
Starting point is 00:57:45 So what I show what's your favorite Kobe moment? There's so many amazing ones. If you had to isolate and just pick just one moment, what would you say your favorite Kobe moment is? Probably at that East Bay in the dunk contest, and he did that flex. I'm a high school kid. You felt that? I got the little fro too.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I got the, yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, no, so when he did that, he was bald headed. When he did that flex,
Starting point is 00:58:10 that just swag. I was going to school. And he, I tap on, it was happening. That was my moment because that's like, I was a Penny fan.
Starting point is 00:58:19 And when he did that, it was like, that's me right there. Young Cole. Yeah. My favorite, and it's not a moment, but it was just knowing, like, when Vanessa spoke about him, just knowing that the money he had, the status he had, everything he had, he was still thinking about poor kids.
Starting point is 00:58:35 And he was talking about he doesn't take games off because there's a kid up there that their parents saved up money just so that they could be at the game, and he didn't want to take that day off and ruin that kid's moment. That might be the only time that they ever get to see him play. So just being that level of player, the money he has, and seeing the players now that just don't even give a shit about, you know, some of the fans that are coming to the game just to see them, like to know that he never lost his connection with poor people,
Starting point is 00:59:02 like people that were struggling that really wanted to see him play, that was big to me. That just made him a great human being. Fuck basketball. That's right. Makeny, how about you? No, there's so many to pick from. Like, personally and, like, just watching. But when he was going, not to bring it up,
Starting point is 00:59:24 but when he was going through his little it up but when he was going through a little situation he was taking it out on the league like that shit like I'm gonna go through this during the day y'all gonna pay for it at night hey that shit like he was going out there like he was taking this literally taking his day out on people and Yeah. Yeah. That focus. Yeah, no. It was like, yeah, man. Like, that was true.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Like, yeah. Y'all bothering me? I'm going to bother y'all. You know what I'm saying? I got a real story for that right there. You know what I'm saying? They on the bus. So they on the bus.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Kobe got his earphones on. They on the bus talking about Tiger Woods. So I guess Tiger Woods just won the Masters probably with a torn, I think he had like a torn meniscus or torn Achilles and won. I think it was a meniscus. Yeah. And the players in the back like, man, did y'all see Tiger? Man, that's the most mentally focused athlete in the world right now. They said Kobe took his head false off and said, that's mental focus?
Starting point is 01:00:29 Winning something on a torn meniscus? How about coming out here scoring 40 every night with five years hanging over your head? Now that's mentally focused. Put his music back on. Everybody was like, well, damn. Shit, he might be right. You did. That's what i'm saying yes man being able to do that and knowing what you're dealing with like to be able to walk that out and still do your job that's that's my mentality too what i mean people don't really understand that
Starting point is 01:00:59 you really chuck five years and i'm i got something for y'all yeah I got something I got something for y'all watch this magic what time I gotta be there pull up right y'all watch his final game live did you see that yeah yeah what kind of emotions were going through watching that 60 piece to cap off his Hall of Fame career oh she was yeah cried. You tell the truth. You teared up. He better not say he cried. No, no, no. It made sense. To go out like that?
Starting point is 01:01:32 It made sense. I guess when you're an athlete and you're talking about your favorite heroes, that's always the ending that you give to that person. You, like, if everyone said, I want to end my favorite player's career like this, that you give to that person. If everyone said, I want to end my favorite player's career like this,
Starting point is 01:01:51 we're going to always do that. I'm about to say the same thing. When Brady's done, throw eight touchdowns and break them. That's the vision of that. So he did it, so it was like, that's the way. That's the way you're supposed to end it.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Yeah, that's why people said Tom Brady should have retired after they won the Super Bowl. You know what I'm saying? He let us let us see him like you know I'm saying yeah, like that's what like that should have been his Mamba out more. You know what I'm saying? Yeah like that like you come on man. I mean with Jordan. I was there that was perfect Then he came back Mike no You know I'm saying but now it's that man is the George still averaging a dub at 38 39 Cooking him to though like I gave him 41 Then Kobe give me like 55
Starting point is 01:02:49 That's the passing of the tour I want to see you know The torch could have been passed from this from this from a seat Yeah, we used to run a little pistol joint. They kicked it up. We should switch it right I said on it Oh, he come down. I'm getting ready to shoot that I'm on top'm on top of it. Shot that bitch off the glass with his left hand. I looked at him, man, don't do that shit ever again. Like, don't do that. That pistol was work right there. He threw that, he kicked that bitch out, I'm on it. He went up to shoot, I'm like, oh, I got this one.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Left. Switch hands on your ass. Off the glass. Yo, this boy here. So we normally do Mostly Fans at the end of the show, but we got a special Mostly Fans question from Underdog Username, Jose Santana. He said, what duo is more dangerous
Starting point is 01:03:39 if they played together their entire careers? Shaq and Kobe, KD and Steph, or LeBron and D-Wade? Shaq and Kobe for me. Pretty easy, or LeBron and D-Wade? Shaq and Kobe for me. Pretty easy, right? Yeah, that don't even sound... I played against them in the finals. And got
Starting point is 01:03:56 swept. Y'all try hard. Nah, that's easy. We tried that shit, trust me. People don't understand, man. This young generation Hard y'all try. No, that's oh we drive that shit is trust. That's easy dog young shit people understand man my that's what I like this young generation of this shooting threes and shit is cute and attractive Imagine a two-on-two tournament Shaquille O'Neal. Yeah. Hey man
Starting point is 01:04:20 Okay, yeah around, find out. No, that man, listen, that shit was unbelievable. That man, it was moving all that weight that fast, man, downhill, getting a rebound and pushing that bitch down the floor. What? Come on, man. That side, that ability, spinning off of you. Mm-hmm. He was mean. Facing you.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Boom, boom, boom, spin. No. Come on, man. That man averaged like 36 and 15 against us in the finals. You know, that's why I hate when people talk about how is Shaq in front of Dream. It's like stop using the Dream Shaq when Shaq was the first two years and the dream was an MVP. You know, stop that. Like, dream versus Shaq round 99.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Try that motherfucker right there. I guarantee you. What? I guarantee you that's a different problem. And that's... Man, that picture that's out there when we was in the finals, man. All five of us in the frame. All of us is in the frame.
Starting point is 01:05:28 This man dunking the ball. Me and my four other teammates, and it's just him in the frame. That depicted the way this shit was with that series and everybody else. Man, come on, man. Kobe and Shaq duo, that shit ain't even... Ain't even close. Ain't even fucking close. Like you just said, play two on two. Yeah, if they play two on two... Play two on man. Kobe and Shaq duo, that shit ain't even fucking close.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Like you said, play two on two. Yeah, if they play two on two. Play two on two. Done. With everybody you just named. And then be a hit. Yes. And everybody you just named.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Yep. Name everybody you just named two on two. Who's guard? Fuck that. It don't matter. It does not matter. But Kareem weighed 104 pounds trying to guard? Fuck that. It don't matter. It does not matter. Kareem weighed 104 pounds trying to guard. Come on.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And one thing we know about Kobe and Brian, he play defense. You know what? Let me take that back. He's strapped up. They might actually get into a fight. Who? Kobe and Shaq about the ball. Nah. Two on two to game.
Starting point is 01:06:23 Game. Nah. Nine two on two. Nine two on two to game. He might take all them shots. I know you got it. No, you gotta throw the ball Help No, you gotta throw the ball you have to but that's not because you can't not help not sure you want to win I think Kobe will win and trust Jack gonna duck in all that writing and He go be felt. Yeah, so let's keep this thing moving. I talk a little bit more about Anthony Edwards and an interesting story that happens. So this. Joe Vardon from The Athletic talked about exchange
Starting point is 01:07:05 between Team USA head coach Steve Kerr and Ant-Man when Kerr tried to convince Ant to embrace the role of the sixth man on the World Cup squad. Rude. He said, Dwyane Wade came off the bench when Kobe played. I was like, all right, we don't have a Kobe. Great response. I love it.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Great fucking response. Where is Kobe at? Where is the other team? So, it's looking like the Kobe of this team, USA Squad. And someone compared him to NJ. But Coach Spolster thinks D-Wade is a better comp. He said, it's hard to look at Anthony Edwards and not see Dwayne Wade. The way he moves, competes, and electrifies the crowd.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Yes, that reminds me of number three. So, question for y'all. Do you agree with Spol comparing Anthony Edwards to Dwayne I mean that's the problem because he reminds you of the player you're trying to make him be that it's not the same scenario either come on like that's come on obviously he's the best player right? By far not even close on the squad, right? So when you're a you're a coach and you're saying yeah Yeah, we're gonna bring out the bench when you're looking at the rest of the lineup
Starting point is 01:08:15 Who are you convincing that's better than him like in your mind? We got yeah, we got Mikhail. We got like who? I am To that team he is the Kobe the Kobe coming off the business Kobe like what the fuck were y'all thinking who you gonna play over me I love people don't even start right Gilda. You want me no fuck that people don't start I'll start this just true. They're all the three men. They're not even top ten three men in the league Yes in their position most of those guys are not even top five in their position
Starting point is 01:08:46 besides Ant-Man and maybe JJ. Right? In their position. So when you decided to say it, like, you had to look
Starting point is 01:08:55 at the rest of the lineup and say, yeah, I need you to come off the bench. Yeah. Never mind. That's how it should have been.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I'm just playing. I ain't for fools. But you know what? when he said that, I bet Anthony Edwards probably felt like, is he disrespecting me? Like, that's calling me dumb. Like, because you think, like, he's going to just be like, okay.
Starting point is 01:09:14 But no, like, that's a violation to even say that to me, knowing I'm Kobe. I am Kobe. On this team. Yeah, like, I would have felt offended. Yeah, that motherfucker, he probably told him that shit and then probably looked over his shoulder like, somebody else On this team? Yeah. Like, I would have felt offended at that point. That motherfucker, he probably told him that shit, and then probably looked over his shoulder like,
Starting point is 01:09:28 somebody else in this bitch? Yeah. Like, LeBron, them coming? Who you? The man said, all right, we don't have a Kobe. I'm with you. You don't have a Kobe. You don't have a LeBron.
Starting point is 01:09:42 You don't have a KD. You don't have nothing. You don't have a Kobe. You don't have a LeBron. You don't have a KD. You don't have nothing. You don't have a D-Wade. You don't have nothing on that team to tell anybody they should come off the bench. Yes. Like, first of all, whoever your starting five is, they can play all the minutes. You should be able to be like, all right, what's up? You know, that whole thing.
Starting point is 01:10:01 Pull a shirt, then sit it back down. We good. Never mind. Yeah, I forgot. shirt, then sit it back down. Never mind. Yeah, I forgot. Like, come on. Come on. Do we not know there's 12 players on this team. Four don't start.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah. The end. Yeah. So you want me to play behind one of them? Yeah, you want me to come off the bench to like. That would make me question whether or not he really wanted to win. It questions you what their mindset. It's the mindset.
Starting point is 01:10:30 You already have a pre-note. That's why you have a pre-notion of what you think it should look like instead of letting the talent dictate it. That's what we were talking about the other day. We go out there, we play. You're telling me what I... You're going't come off the
Starting point is 01:10:45 bench yeah and you sit there like okay cool and they lost the first game trying that shit play yeah we are bad just come on come on Josh you're gonna go back to the bench you know what he does for the next come off the bench yeah put you back in your role let me play my room comfortable there as the main who started that first game First exhibition game. Yeah, they come off the bench. They lost they lost and it's it. All right Horrible That's horrible the be telling the best player he should be the sixth man. That's horrible. I Don't get it.
Starting point is 01:11:26 No, I think they... No. So they won all their games so far. No, they lost one of them games. They lost something. Right? Oh, it was a scrimmage with the select team. That's what it was, yeah. Yeah, the scrimmage.
Starting point is 01:11:36 They lost that. So who did you come off the bench for? I don't even know. But they put them in for... Yeah. Yeah, they put them in, I think, that next round, and they ended up smacking them So yeah, that's that was that was exhibition. They played against the other all-stars or what would that what they call it?
Starting point is 01:11:50 The other team is like a select team. Yeah, and watch the occur come out be like see I'll just select Oh, the select team was NBA players, right? Yeah. Yeah, Kay Cunningham what you're but you bunch of young they was better It was probably I mean, that's can you tell me that lineup? Yeah. Oh, you got, oh, fuck it. Yeah. You know I'm not good at this internet. It's just, I mean, it's just. Cam Johnson was the fifth starter for the World Cup team.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Let me pull up the select team. You told me Cam Johnson started ahead of you. Steve Kirk, you got the shits left out of him for that. So the select team is Kay Cunningham, Jalen Duren, Langston Galloway, Jalen Green, Quentin Grimes, Chet Holmgren, John Jenkins, Herb Jones, Trey Murphy,
Starting point is 01:12:36 Keegan Murray, Peyton Pritchard, Nas Reed, and Jalen Williams. They lost to them? Yeah. Scrimmage, girl, scrimmage. You can't not let them do that to you. Alright. Oh, they lost by them? Yeah. Scrimmage, Gil, scrimmage. You can't not let them do that to you. All right. Oh, they lost by 23, though. They just put the DSL.
Starting point is 01:12:51 They lost by 23? They got smacked. They got smacked. That ain't a loss. Yeah, that's why it was so bad. It was. Like, they beat, they put hands on them. It wasn't just a win.
Starting point is 01:13:00 I mean, that makes sense, because a majority of that team is better than four the players that's on this don't start on 18 All I'm saying is you know I'm just being realistic. You got 12 players, right? For them don't start. I mean you got eight Starters in On just okay six of them not even in the top 50 just on just okay team. Yeah Well, is this is this prop is this the worst? Talent wise is this the worst feeble team that we ever created make you start googling
Starting point is 01:13:37 I just want to know I can we just don't you don't gotta google it I just want to throw that out there. Is this the worst so you played in oh six right so there's not a three over yeah three oh three I just wanna this is the worst talent oh that's too many people too many to run back unless we would use fee but talent is not as I'm saying is this is the worst fee but talent that we ever created I don't know it's been some teams yeah we'll figure that out yeah yeah I'm The chat will chime in shortly, but who knows how many of them comments are going to be verifiable. It's a lot of hate in the chat today.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Remind me of D-Wade. Probably in the movements, but, I mean, you know, he has mid-range. He has the three, so he's a little more versatile than when D-Wade, you know, came into the lane. But that athleticism, the jumping ability. But you're talking about a team that had, bro, at Brown, Kobe. I'm just saying, like, you look at that starting five, and it's understandable why D. Wade was the sixth man.
Starting point is 01:14:35 No, no, that's facts. We get that. I'm just saying, but you don't believe me. So even Steve Kerr having the gall to tell Anthony Edwards that, like, he was going to listen to him would be like, oh, yeah, he's a coach. No, no, that, you're a coach. You know they had to have a meeting about it first. That's the... They had to sit and, as the coaches, they had a meeting about
Starting point is 01:14:54 it, and they all came up with the same... They walked out that room like, yeah, this is a good idea. This is it right here. Yeah, this is what we're talking about. You could, you know, verify that being true for the actual Olympic team where you're telling him you're coming off the bench. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:15:11 No, no. It would make sense. You got KD there. Yeah, you got KD, Booker. And he comes off the bench to that team. Yeah, that makes sense. Steve Kerr had that on his to-do list that day. I got to talk to Ann about embracing the six-man rule.
Starting point is 01:15:23 And they were like, yeah. All the coaches sitting there. All the coaches sitting there. All the coaches sitting there. There's not one coach in there probably saying, uh, come on, the best of who? Nope.
Starting point is 01:15:32 They was all like, yeah, that's a good ass idea. Good shit. Four championships. Yeah, good shit, coach. That's why they keep me out of them. For who? So let's keep this thing moving.
Starting point is 01:15:42 We got to talk about Dylan Brooks. So Dylan Brooks still bringing up old shit. In a recent interview, the former Grizzly and Kern Rocket said he had LeBron James right where he wanted him in the playoffs last season, saying quote, I feel like I always had him.
Starting point is 01:15:57 I feel like that series was thrown upon me because of the words that I say, but I've been saying things all year and we won 50 games. Reaction from the couch on Dylan Brooks saying he had LeBron right where he wanted him. I'm not. I don't have any reaction.
Starting point is 01:16:12 He had to get the good mineral water. Listen. Like, I'm sorry. How many games was that series? It was what four two yeah it was six right you had six games to say this right when it was in real time i i personally don't want to hear shit you got to say at this moment in time right you was talking all the shit then you faced that man six games you ran from the media i don't want to hear nothing you got going on right i i i you had your chance they know there's no wait to the summer to talk about what you could have talked about during that series when
Starting point is 01:16:59 my man was smacking the fuck out you guys no No comment from me. I don't, he's lame, I'm done. Think I need some more ink, man. I got these small tattoos. Yeah, I think we need some, I think I need the makeup point. It's a Thursday in the office. It is a Thursday in the office. It's a Thursday in the office. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:17:29 He lame. I'm out of here, man. I'm out of here, that shit. It's a Canadian thing. Go ahead, you give your thoughts. Right. No, I'm just merely here to host. I have no opinions.
Starting point is 01:17:40 So host and go to the next topic. Yeah, okay, man. Can't say it. Wasting valuable fucking oxygen talking about it is a Thursday in the middle of the office These some more tattoos This is my leg is So, you know I watch battle rap right so this is dude named goods This side of my leg is, yeah. So you know I watch battle rap, right?
Starting point is 01:18:06 This is a dude named Goods. He starts some of his sessions off, he'll just say random shit. Mm-hm. And he'll say, yeah, that's what I be thinking about while some of y'all rap. Like that. Come on, man. It's a slow news day. We will keep this shit moving, though.
Starting point is 01:18:26 It ain't that fucking slow. Slow end, eh? We got more. We got more. You know we always going to be ready on the show. We talk about, yeah, a lot of... You want to talk about Lonzo? Yeah, we...
Starting point is 01:18:36 Let's talk about Lonzo. He's been on the docus this Monday. Yeah, let's talk about Lonzo. Lonzo's been on the docus this Monday. He's been in the life-spinning section, though. He got bumped down. He got bumped down. So Lonzo Ball made an appearance on since Monday. He been in the life-saving section, though. He got bumped down. He got bumped down. So Lonzo Ball made an appearance on Trey Young's From the Point podcast
Starting point is 01:18:48 and confirmed that he'll be out for the entire season. Just how you doing now? Like, when it comes to recovery, getting back into it, like, how has the mental been? Like, right now, what are you doing to make sure you write everything about you? Just taking it day by day, bro. I just had a really big surgery, hopefully the last one I ever have to get. But, you know, it's a long process.
Starting point is 01:19:10 I'm already out this whole next season. So, you know, when I first got hurt, we didn't really know what it was. I've seen all types of different doctors and stuff, and I was kind of just going up and down. And that was really hard for me because I just didn't know what the next day was going to be like. And at least now, you least now I got the surgery. We got a plan moving forward. We've been on plan. I'm on track, so hopefully everything works out.
Starting point is 01:19:31 But I'll just leave it up to God, man, and just do the best I can and live with the results, bro. So Ball had cartilage replacement surgery on his knee back in March. It hasn't placed since January 2022. So after this clip dropped, Stephen A. Smith reported that he heard from a source that Zo has trouble getting up from the sitting position, but the only source that matters clapped back. Stephen A.,
Starting point is 01:19:53 who are your sources, bro? Please tell me who your sources are. Come on, man. Come on, man. You gotta stop yapping. And I actually like you, man. I don't even know you like that, but I like you. I'm coming back, man. Come on, man. You gotta stop yapping. And I actually like you, man. I don't even know you like that. But I like you. I'm coming back, man. Come on.
Starting point is 01:20:11 That view. Nice, though. View hard. That view nice. I wasn't even looking at what he was doing. I'm looking at that view like, that's a party over there, Joe. That looked like a vibe.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I invited it over real quick. Stephen A. responded on his podcast, revealing that his sources were, in fact, Lonzo's doctors, which smells a little bit like a HIPAA violation. But is Stephen A. out of pocket for his comment on Lonzo Ball's injury? I'm pretty sure it started off as like an exaggeration. Oh, he can't even get up. I'm pretty sure that was it.
Starting point is 01:20:42 He just got called out for it It was my thing with Steven I think I didn't mean to cut you off but I saw what he said afterwards He was like you're not healthy. Stop acting like you're healthy I hate when sports journalists reporters what they've been in calm move the goalposts You said my sources said he has trouble getting up, right? He showed you he didn't. Already, you're wrong. And then instead of saying, oh, shit, he can get up, you went into, but you're not healthy. Are you going to play?
Starting point is 01:21:13 You lost. You lost the art. You lost the debate. You already look like a fucking idiot saying that, and the man just got up. I don't care what you say. Saying somebody has trouble getting up, he did it with one leg.
Starting point is 01:21:25 No, I wasn't fluid, but he did it. Right? So, Stephen A., hold your fucking L, my nigga. You never hold your fucking L. That's what I don't like about his ass. The hairline already be bothering me. And then he be start saying dumb shit like that. Blum, blum, blum, blum.
Starting point is 01:21:38 I'm so... And then I got to watch this nigga show because now Shannon Sharp is on it. Can't stand him. It's been a slanderous week, so we're okay. Get my gear on. We can go beat with everybody. Shots fired.
Starting point is 01:21:55 God, just like, yo, I hate my sources. I hate that shit. Because that makes you able to say anything. You can say anything you want and get away with it. There's no lawsuit. You can't do anything to the person. All they got to say is my sources. And it could be a bunch of bullshit.
Starting point is 01:22:12 I don't like sources. Don't tell me shit if I can't say your name. Yeah. If I can't say who told me, don't tell me that. I don't want to hear none of your secrets. If I can't say, oh, this motherfucker told me right here, so you know where it came from. Right.
Starting point is 01:22:28 If I can't do that, then... Or if you hear the shit, keep the shit to yourself. Like, everything on the internet, broadcast... Nah, everybody wants to... They want to tell you what's going on, but they don't want you... I want to seem important, man. They don't...
Starting point is 01:22:37 I want to seem important. Yeah. That's what it is. That's all it is. Like, you know everybody. Like, it's a name dropping all the time. This person, my sword, like, come on, man. But, you know everybody like like it's a name dropping all the time this person my sword like come on But but you know it's probably is somebody in the camp, right?
Starting point is 01:22:51 Like we're saying they're saying this shit, but don't tell nobody I say of course now nigga fuck you too Just told somebody No, I don't like hi like if you don't tell me stand on it Mm-hmm. So I was so when he comes back at me, because he's going to come back at me, hey, everybody, Smokey over here taking the shit. I just ain't going to tell nobody. Right. Sources.
Starting point is 01:23:15 I mean, I just hate sources. Come on, man. Just stand on it. And for me, it just came from a nasty place. It almost feels like he hopes he's right. Who's not rooting for him? I know I am. With all the technology, the medicine and things that's going on,
Starting point is 01:23:30 I'm rooting for him to get back out there. I just feel like it should have been like, man, unfortunately, I heard some news that, damn, he might be. You know what I mean? Like, there was no, like, empathy hearing that this man's career might be over. Because that man ain't never played, man. He don't know what this is, man. He don't know what injury be the man never played know what this is man He'll know what injury is. He don't know what it is the fight back from is to think that you might not play again
Starting point is 01:23:51 Yeah, you go out there bitch and you can't you you don't feel right you going and just ain't like he don't know what that Shits like actually he can do He had a broken kneecap in college. So what? Steve Nisman. Okay, but... He had a broken kneecap so he couldn't play college basketball. I heard him say that shit before, too. Yeah, sure. He ain't play again. He ain't try.
Starting point is 01:24:14 That means he didn't have it. He wasn't... I don't know what a broken kneecap felt like. He was never going to the league. He was never going to the league. for people to put resources into his product 1980 Everybody sources back there when this is Terry they got a whole But at that level to keep the source in the man stand on it like she was saying stand on what your statement is But now I mean that shit like wish that man young man well, man, because we, you know
Starting point is 01:24:46 how it is, man. Yeah, the most tragic thing that he said, you know, Lonzo was like, they didn't know what was wrong with him. Mm-hmm. Right. So why y'all doing surgery on me? Yeah. I mean, he started asking questions like, y'all going in there, you know, doing surgery, don't know what y'all,
Starting point is 01:25:01 don't know what's wrong with me? You know the old saying. Because it was a meniscus, it started off as a meniscus tear. Something like that, that's what they would say. Just a meniscus tear, and then from there it just went all downhill. Yeah. But that's why sometimes you have to go get another opinion. You can't say anything to everybody. You can't, your team doctor isn't always the right person.
Starting point is 01:25:19 A lot of times they just want to. That's the wrong person. Yeah. Damn shoulder wrong. That's the wrong, the team doctor is the wrong person. Speak from experience. Yeah from experience It's a different time now, but you had two micro fracture surgeries both knees in an 18-month span And that's back when you got the micro fracture and people thought you were done
Starting point is 01:25:35 You went on to play eight more seasons, but what did you learn from those situations? That team doctor is a fucking idiot Yeah, no, dr. Trainer. I called him. I'm going to say his name. Dr. Steve Trainer, man. Like, no, he butchered me, man. Like, I had microfracture surgery, and this man cleared me to be back on the floor in five months, dog.
Starting point is 01:25:57 I got surgery in May. I was in training camp in October. Oh, my God. You know what I'm saying? There was no way feasible that I should have been practicing. Shouldn't have been preparing to play basketball games. You know what I'm saying? There was no way feasible that I should have been practicing. Shouldn't have been preparing to play basketball games. You know what I'm saying? Like, team doctor.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Yeah. Like, him. So my next one, so when I had this, so I played 56 games that year, basically on one leg. Played the first two games of the next season, and I had to get microfractures on my right knee because I'm over the overcompensate yeah playing on one leg for I'm saying and in the NBA not wreckly playing fucking hard every night the way I play yeah no so so no team doctor fucking idiot I'm saying so but I went to doctor I'm saying Dr. Stattman Dr. Richard Stattman God rest his soul just passed away recently but he created the surgery, the micro fracture surgery. He did my right knee, cleaned up the mess
Starting point is 01:26:51 that was in my left knee that was created because of team doctor. And I was able to play, like I said, I was able to play eight more seasons, man. Yeah, so when you came back after that five months, what was your knee feeling like at that point? Or did you just take their word for it and say, look, it might hurt a little bit, but I'm just going to keep going?
Starting point is 01:27:05 Yeah, you know, I'm a hooper. Yeah, I was in pain, but I thought it would subside. I thought the more I went, I thought it would go away. You know what I'm saying? But I could deal with it. But no, I just led. No, it wasn't right at all, though. Like, at all.
Starting point is 01:27:19 And yeah, no, I should have sued their ass for malpractice, but. I'm surprised, because I had three surgeries in 14 months. Right? Because this is... Remember Jarvis Hayes? Mm-hmm. So Jarvis Hayes fell on his knee cap, right? And he's like, oh, I need to, you know, do an MRI.
Starting point is 01:27:41 They was like, no, it's just tendonitis. So they just... It was tendonitis. you know, cinnamon ice bullshit And you can see him hobbling, you know, we go like a month month and a half. I'm like yo Are you ain't feelin look the same man? I said man just go talk to somebody else right? Am I right crack me cap This motherfucker telling y'all got tendonitis Tendinitis and he has a whole Crack me. Mm-hmm. And I've heard the doctors like yeah, you know
Starting point is 01:28:10 Tell him yeah, they say yeah, he's gonna be out, you know, three months, right? you know Trainer from Doctor say it is six to eight weeks If we tell him three months, they don't they don't hold out all three months and tell him six to eight weeks. If we tell them three months, they're going to hold out all three months and tell them six to eight weeks. Six weeks? Five weeks? Yeah, literally saying
Starting point is 01:28:32 that. I heard the doctor say three months, and you just told this man six, eight weeks. And I had to tell him, hey, nah, doctor said three months, bro. Don't listen to that nigga. The doctor said three months, not those six to eight weeks Yeah, now they brutal man. Like when you want your back anti-inflammatory
Starting point is 01:28:50 stem-ice Listen, no, dude, man. I hate to be talking to people man, but the head training dinner at the time him the doctor Man after business after business after business. Bad for business. They minimize everything. He got a little Achilles tear. A little? No. My leg.
Starting point is 01:29:18 He used to minimize everything. You know what I'm saying? It was bad, man. So at times, there was no way. I went and got, and it was bad man. Like so at time there was no way like man I went and got my patella worked on I Had chronic tendonitis in my left knee after all the micro fracture all that Dr. Steadman told me basically listen man son
Starting point is 01:29:37 You're some kind of tough in a recovery room. Mm-hmm son. You're some kind of tough There's no way you should have been playing professional basketball with your knee the way it look. After he got me open on the table, like, there's no way you should have been playing professional basketball. He kept it real, though. I'm saying. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:29:57 And my dumb ass ain't thinking nothing. I'm going to get right and go back to playing. Yep. I caught some hell when Brent was playing in Atlanta and he ruptured his Achilles and they wanted the team doctor to do the surgery and I refused. And he was just like, what's the big deal? I said, I've been told my whole life
Starting point is 01:30:14 to never trust the team doctors, none of them. And I did my due diligence and I took him to North Carolina to Dr. Anderson. Dr. Anderson. He had a reputation for not just athletes But regular people like fully functioning recovering everything and the team tried to put out bad press But his wife is having him go to another doctor and they try to pressure me like well
Starting point is 01:30:35 You know he can't fly you're gonna have to be driving him back and forth to every visit I don't have shit else to do Like what I can drive him there back and forth and that's exactly what I did He did it every did a surgery there. I drove him back every appointment. How far I can drive him there back and forth and that's exactly what I did. He did it every did a surgery there I drove him back every appointment. How far was that drive? Four hours. Oh that's not.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Yeah. I thought they tried to act like that shit was like. No it was like I was doing turnarounds every appointment four hours back and forth back and forth just because he couldn't fly. I was like y'all got me fucked up if you think I'm gonna put my husband's career in y'all hands knowing that y'all already didn't even pay him yet. No. We're going to take these talents somewhere else,
Starting point is 01:31:09 and he flourished after that. And then they put out the rumors like, oh, well, you know, he was so athletic. Since he ruptured his Achilles, he's never going to return to, nobody's ever going to return to the way they were after having that surgery. Ball. Four Pro Bowls.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Watch out. Four Pro Bowls after that. Watch out. Shit. So you say, yeah, three in 14 months. Three in 14 months. that surgery ball four pro bowls watch out four pro bowls after this watch out shit yeah so you say yeah three and 14 months three and 14 months oh my god god it feels good right the same surgery same knee so first it was uh it was a pcl mcl strain and then they told me I'll be back by training camp. So I ate eight games later eight games into the season Meniscus tear and micro fracture and then Recovered came back Came back in the playoffs and I got a two-door shot
Starting point is 01:32:03 right, LeBron LeB, big ass, ran into my wrist, and I couldn't, so they gave me a tour d'or shot so I could feel, and I think it felt like I hyperextended it. So when I went into the summer, we just cleaned it out, you know, just cleaned it out. And that clean out took me out the whole season. Just clean out. I couldn't re...
Starting point is 01:32:22 This was all the team doctors? Or these were other doctors? Team doctors,'t re... This was all the team doctors? Or these were other doctors? Team doctors, yeah. All your surgeries from the team doctors? Yeah, see I... It was playing with you. It fucking tore it all, boy. That's dangerous.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Mm-hmm. That shit, that... They get at the football players like... Oh, they lined up. Huh? Oh, the football players lined up, dog. Every Sunday. Every Sunday, they lined up.
Starting point is 01:32:39 They lined up for that shot. I heard this from source that's in it. Oh, yeah. They lined up like they giving that shit candy. Like, they lined up every Sunday, dog. I guess I V I should have my stomach I'll take an issue man. Like after the game for like I had to shit and I couldn't I'll be on the toilet for 45 minutes dog. Just sitting there stomach hurting just balled up legs No feet numb because I'm just sitting on this fucking toward all though. Yeah
Starting point is 01:33:03 This is the shit they was giving us to try to play sports. Yeah. People understand this shit. Like y'all making all this money. I put my body, put our bodies through hell. Man, put his body through hell to play. And I hit my wrist, just ran into my wrist. Boom.
Starting point is 01:33:17 Like tried to, he come at full speed. Boom. Man, I couldn't feel him like, oh, I can't shoot. I don't know if we got something for you. Boop. Right in your cheek. Right in the cheek. Oh, I can feel this.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Yeah, they can't get it. So they got to give it to you. Yeah, I couldn't protect this no more. It should say something about this fucking shot. They got to give it to you in your most fattiest part of your body. Yeah. Like, they can't give it to you in your arm. Like, normal shots. They got cheek. Drop them. Drop them. Yeah Like they can't give it to your arm like normal shot
Starting point is 01:33:47 cheek Drop them Football players there's Sunday in there motherfucker. Yeah, they can't play a lot of players can't even play How long does it take once they give you that shot? I've had it once when I my my disc slipped out once I had to go to the ER. Probably took, like, me 45 minutes. Yeah. I'm a thin. Yeah, they big. We big. I'm a football player. They big.
Starting point is 01:34:09 They more mass. Yeah. I'm thin. That shit right. It was about 45 minutes for me, too. Yeah. Yeah. That shit was wild, man.
Starting point is 01:34:17 Shot on good. Fuck that. No. I had, what? I had, what, seven surgeries? Yeah. Dr. Anderson took, he did my ankle, you know, dr. And you know, I did my he took took my my tendon from under my big toe and put it in my ankle Wow
Starting point is 01:34:36 Yeah, so like instead of using the outside cadaver. He used my own to my tenant on my big toe and put in my ankle That's gangster. I need surgery now. I know I got probably bone spurs. You got to get surgery again? Yeah, probably. And you still out there trying to hoop and shit? Sit your ass down.
Starting point is 01:34:57 You got this nice gym over here, nigga. You got a lot of stationary machinery in there. Shit that don't require you to do no move. I think I've needed it for the last three years, but I'm good. of stationary machinery in there. Shit that don't require you to do no move. But boy, you better. Like, I think I've needed it for the last three years. But I'm like, I'm good. Because that's the oldest work zone. You don't want to be down, huh?
Starting point is 01:35:11 No, because it seemed like the last time, when I just had meniscus, I had meniscus. And every night around 11 o'clock, it felt like my knee would swell up, and it was just all blood right there. And I couldn't sleep from 11 to like 6 AM.m. And then 6 a.m. It just flushed itself out and then But I was struggling I'd be in the shower. I have I mean the shower my leg Whenever you laid down or something, I don't know. It's like when my body, you know, where's body rested?
Starting point is 01:35:39 It just just flooded to this one area That was worse than the damn surgery Cuz I'm good. I'm Take this just take the leg. No, we're talking about just like some of the shit I did to try to play Fucking collagen shots PRP Dog They said like the comb from a ro that got a good collagen in it. They sticking that shit
Starting point is 01:36:06 in my knee. Listen, man, they got that PRP shit. I said, I mean, y'all should just told me to get surgery,
Starting point is 01:36:11 dog. Yeah. Stick that shit right in the middle of my patella. I'm like, listen, man,
Starting point is 01:36:17 are you serious? They did the little local anesthesia. We're just going to give you a local. He numb the surface. I look away. He's sticking the needle
Starting point is 01:36:24 in my... What are you... And the balls to him to tell me that, oh, I did this on myself, so I wanted to know how it felt. You did what? You stuck that needle to yourself. You just went...
Starting point is 01:36:40 Weird. They gotta use the ultrasound. You need the ultrasound to know exactly where they sticking you at yeah man you moving that niggas man y'all should have just told me to opt for surgery i'm so grateful i never only surgeries i've had was my boobs and then the c-section having my son i was blessed to not have any major injury nothing when I played my whole entire life Thankfully, I should have a McDonald's like oh, she'll sink. Oh what?
Starting point is 01:37:11 Don't you see go never got hurt McDonald's I don't want to ship my one in college team doctor Been a time to be a hero Now you put I'm big strong athlete at the time. I'm the strongest I ever been. So my ligaments tore, so your bone fit in the socket like this. The screw got to go in. So he put an absorbable screw in my shit so they wouldn't have to go in and take it out. You can get that to somebody that sit at a desk for a living. So they put me in the cast. I ain't had no sleep, but you know,
Starting point is 01:37:46 you kick in your sleep, you jump and you kick. I kicked and the fucking screw slipped out. So my mother, I mean that cast, that shit just vroom, vroom, vroom. In the cast. Man, you gotta go in there, you gotta cut the thing off. This man grabbed my ankle. Man,
Starting point is 01:38:02 x-rays and all that shit, yeah, we gotta go back in. Put a real screw in. Y'all are making my stomach turn. Then I had to get the screw out before I got drafted. All the teams were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Synopsis is, yeah, the screw need to come out. You need to know if he going to be able to hold up.
Starting point is 01:38:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I ask you, I'm sorry, can I ask you guys a question? If you, would you trade having a baby over the surgeries y'all had? Hell no. Having no children? Got six. Wait, I'm trying to, wait, wait, wait. I'm just trying to see like.
Starting point is 01:38:39 You got to change it. You got to change it. Like, what do you mean by change it? Like cutting. I've seen it. That's a whole mess. Cut whole mess open to have a baby I've seen it both ways like the surgery. Which do you think which one do you think is harder or more? Are you saying cut this like I was cut. Oh, yeah, I didn't see any both ways
Starting point is 01:38:56 Yeah, like I seen a natural issue. What what? What ain't shit girl cut her stomach over pull a baby out Versus cut my knee open that I got to do rehab for 12 months. Yeah, you don't know. Okay, clearly He so you ain't seen this exact. No, that's not have you have you been around since I'm just talking I know fuck that ask your question. Yeah. Have you been around one? Have you seen one? You got kids all yours naturally? So guess what I was in that it cut my wife. Oh I was in there. Uh-huh No way No, I didn't fall out she needed me there
Starting point is 01:39:35 Do you know I'm in the layers of your skin Do you know I mean, I don't think you understand I've seen movies I'm talking about being right there, nigga. It's so bad, nigga. They got to put a sheet up between them. So they don't go. So they can't see what's going on. Yeah, we'll freak out if we see that.
Starting point is 01:39:52 I'm going to pass. And my dumb ass told her, listen. I didn't know that part. You know me. I ain't as stupid as you. I did not know that part of it. I told her, man, you got a whole mess going on down here. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:40:06 Yes. I don't want to go too much into the graphic shit because we don't... Listen, man. Yeah. I didn't see any vaginal. I seen the regular birth and I seen the C-section. I don't want either one of them, but that C-section situation and the pain that she was in afterwards, dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:23 But how long was the pain? But how long, though? It in afterwards, dog? Yeah. But how long was the pain? But how long, though? It lasted. 12 months? Yeah. I had to have another surgery about four years ago just to remove the scar. Scar tissue. I still had pain to the touch.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Yeah, bro. In the whole area. That shit real. My son's 12, so this was eight. When he was eight, I had to have another surgery. Goddamn. No, that shit real, bro. a surgery Repair that I couldn't even it's Man, I've been under that night. Yeah seven times I do throw up from anesthesia the whole can't walk all have my wrist fused together
Starting point is 01:40:58 I didn't listen been under that knife enough. All I'm saying is I'll take that scar I can put a tattoo. I'll put the flower tattoo just like y'all do right here. I ain't got no flower tattoo. I'll put the flower tattoo, put a little garb right here. I like my scar. To get my knee to bend again. I can't even sit on my leg.
Starting point is 01:41:17 I can't even bend. Straight up. You can't do the Lonzo? I can't do block. I mean, I can't do yoga. Can you do it? Can you do the Lonzo? Can you do plot. I mean I can't do Do yoga Just did one time Not on one From this guy
Starting point is 01:41:34 I can't sit on my knees. What do you mean sit on you? You know you sit on your knees and sit back No, I'm sure I can't do that shit up and down not too many lists not too many men can do that I can't do that. Not too many men should this no give give give Yeah, there's not give it give this is it this not too many. This is it means should be should be This is it Yeah, so ain't no chance you doing this or nothing. Hell no. I can't bend my leg. Who's doing that? We're pretty healthy.
Starting point is 01:42:09 I gotta take my shoes off to drive. Why? Because if my knees start throbbing from the shoe, I gotta take my shit off. So I take mine off for different reasons. I would say I like sandals. Yeah, I take my shoe off when I drive for different reasons. Yeah, I don't want to stuff my shoe so my knee my knee start i can't
Starting point is 01:42:29 like oh no my shoes like stuff and like sit in certain ways oh yeah oh no so so we're into it right so all them years in denver every car i had minus the like the mercedes i had to add a rack in my car so i could let the seat all the way back. So I could stretch, I could drive my car and I could stretch out like this while I was driving, dog. And car services, I could only sit in the passenger side behind the passenger so I could stick my left leg through the thing.
Starting point is 01:42:59 Like, oh, it was bad. Every car we got in, I got to stick my, I tell the driver, pardon me, dog, I'm putting my left leg every the driver, pardon me, dog. I'm putting my left leg every time. That's a long leg. I'm putting my shit through every time. That left leg, I couldn't... You have to have insurance forever, right?
Starting point is 01:43:15 No, we have a lot of money on it. We're niggas trying to fuck that up, too. Yeah. NFL is four years after you die. 37 real kids die. Oh, they don't know. We have money. Four years, 37 we don't know see we have my years and you're done I didn't even see four years not even in the city. Yeah, that's crazy Now let's take care of the news ready. They put their body through hell Yeah, but that's like I can't even do like I hate driving and it's your
Starting point is 01:43:41 Like my so let me know what about my career that was like settled So I mean I can't bend it on but it's settled this one just I mean this one that that driving like I'll be all like Like stretch it like this and be driving with this foot. Just push the gas. I'll be doing that Oh, yeah, cuz I got to make this straight. Yeah, I like that You don't see me I'll be sitting here putting my leg My son looking at me I'm in range like this I can do that see yeah, but I can but my but my but now I have pain Oh my god, and I just did some stuff on the floor the other day and my knees swole up
Starting point is 01:44:26 Shit like like shit on the floor the other day now. I went home my knee look she like yeah Puffy hurting back here all that yo, man. So we asked the chat. Would you rather go through knee surgery or childbirth? 82% said knee surgery. They'll rather go through knee surgery. Yes some women's. There ain't no women in here. I was like, y'all, I just showed y'all I can't do shit. Yo, I got scars. This thing been cut open three times. This one been ankle.
Starting point is 01:44:53 I didn't do it at all. Man, think about all the sexual positions I done perfected when I was young. I can't even do no more. Yo. I can't even do no more. I gotta alter this shit now. Oh, shit. Oh, my God. Stick to the basics. You gotta stick to the basics spooning position
Starting point is 01:45:17 Are you freaking I just Don't work this way my body don't move that way. This is Gil's arena on a Thursday. Everybody else taking breaks. Everybody else on vacations. We are still here for y'all. Keeping y'all entertained before this season comes. Trust me, man. Question for both of y'all.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Looking back now, with the long-term effects and injuries from your playing days, like y'all just said, would you have kept playing through it if you knew what you know now? That's I'm paying no, I was out there bitch playing he was so I was out there bitch playing in pain She was fine. Yo, couldn't tell me.
Starting point is 01:46:06 I remember like now they do sitting out for this, sitting out for that. If you came to me and told me to sit out, you got an argument. Yeah. Like disgruntled employee. I'm fucking sitting out. Look how I feel. I really can't walk not to play when I didn't play
Starting point is 01:46:28 couldn't fucking walk literally couldn't not walk to play so wrist, hand man dog man we playing Philly I do some
Starting point is 01:46:43 jam my finger on the ground, look down. My stuck, bones sticking out. I look at it, run off the floor, jump over the chair, go in the back. They try to get it back. They get it, stitch it up. Oh, my God. No, most people, they done for the day. You can go finish if you feel like it.
Starting point is 01:47:02 If you feel like it. And you play. Oh, that this a finger Take my dumb ass right back out there and finish the game. Oh my god Now running lock cut his finger off. Yeah. Yeah That's some wild shit Yeah, well I cut his finger. Yeah told me cut it off Tip of some reason why there's a notice cut off only. Mm-hmm. It's not important. I tackle people for
Starting point is 01:47:28 Gotta catch Tackle for live I hit hard No, I would have did it all I do. Yeah, but while you're playing how much adrenaline, you know Is how much is it bothering why you actually playing are you able to take your mind off it during the game? Cuz it just with us all the other shit going on now certain things you can but you get trust me you feeling it you feeling you feeling it Why are you playing good get on afterwards obvious get on the break or something you think you finna Take off oh You for dinner then you go sit down and you cool off a little bit
Starting point is 01:48:03 You know what it're for dinner, and then you go sit down, and you cool off a little bit. You know what it is? It's so about the mental part of it. Me at 50%, in my mind, I'm still better than 90% of the NBA. Right? That's how my mind works. That's how we think. Like, me at 50%, you still can't stop me. So I feel like I'm 50%. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:48:29 Yeah. Yeah, it just wasn't no turning it off for me man. Yeah, I just What I do think about though How I feel right now, I'm like man if I went back to play one more year, what would I be? Like at 32. I was like, yeah, I'll probably be handicapped by 35 Yeah, I'll probably be in the wheelchair by 35 30 yeah like when I be seeing old NBA players you see Kenny Smith in there oh yeah that's me that's me that's for sure how did he knees get like how did that happen to him oh I ain't got that probably was already like that plus the knee surgery no I washed him no Kenny Smith legs was perfectly fine it's probably knee surgery. No, I watched him. No, Kenny Smith's legs was perfectly fine.
Starting point is 01:49:05 There's probably bad surgery. Perfectly fine. You know what I'm saying? Bad surgery? 90 surgery? This is 2000s. This is mid-2000s. Like 2008, 2009 surgeries.
Starting point is 01:49:17 90 surgery, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. If we got meniscus tear, they got... Scar from it. They got scar from it. Like, you know, our scars is like little dots here they got scars they didn't open up the whole goddamn leg man he's like a little fawn when you walk like a little deer
Starting point is 01:49:38 that's your real man that's man surgery that shit listen man well let me I want me to cut you off. Like, damn the surgery. The surgery one thing. Forcing you back? No, no, no. It's the rehab. The rehab?
Starting point is 01:49:53 Listen, I was going to ask you, what's the hardest part? Yo, man, because you got to get the surgery. If you need it, you got to get it, and there ain't no way around it sometimes. To come back. Then to do that shit again then again yeah that's the best of that's the mind breaker and then again like dog come on man the most mentally challenging thing I've ever done in the world is for an athlete is rehabbing and that's why a lot of people don't come back. Mm-hmm Right people don't think about that. They just hear he had a surgery
Starting point is 01:50:31 He made it wasn't saying yeah, mm-hmm Cuz it's hard to put the same energy and effort if you're not locked in with it It's hard to put the same energy and effort in the rehab and you do your game And you got to do it. And some. You know what I'm saying? And we don't, as you're in it, you don't understand that. And then you go ask anybody that's had the surgery,
Starting point is 01:50:54 the surgery that, it was a surgery, they tried to play again, and that was it. You know what I'm saying? I guarantee it wasn't the same focus, same energy, same, I'm saying because we think we're Superman. We think we big, bad, we ain't got to do it the same. I'm still going to be all engine saying I'm saying because we think we Superman we think we be big bad We ain't got to do it the same. I'm still gonna be I and I'm still gonna fucking play Then you go play again that shit. Oh damn. I should then you go do it again like a man this shit ain't right Then I need to know
Starting point is 01:51:17 Like I was fortunate enough to have good people and solid people shout out to Steve Hess and Demma who was our strength and conditioning dude who stayed on me when I had many restrictions, made me stay to it, made sure I was digmate and I was locked in to the point to where damn if he cared that much I need to lock, you know what I'm saying? Did you guys have any like depression because I noticed that with Brent. I had to help him. He had to help him take a bath because he had to keep his leg out because he had the cast. I feel like he was degraded. He felt useless as a man., I never seen him like that before. So how was that mentally like?
Starting point is 01:52:05 It's called weed. He didn't smoke weed. He should have when he was going through surgery. I know I did daily when I was going through my surgery. But no, I'm saying it happens. Yeah, because you're seeing him at his weakest point. Yeah. And he needed that help to help him.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Yeah, like you'd'd rather like for some reason we'll rather go through it by ourselves versus letting someone see us at a weak moment and then take care of us yeah like he yelled at me he never yelled at me he used to yell at me he's just angry yeah like and i was just like damn because i never got hurt i never had yeah because we're going through we used to being this yeah Used to being this big macho. Yeah. And now we're not that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:52 And it's hard, like, yeah, for a lot of us, it's hard not to be that and have somebody, especially, like, your woman take care. Like, we used to take care of y'all. Yeah, yeah. We used to take care of y'all. So for you, for that role to be reversed, you'd be totally, like, helpless. Vulnerable, yeah. Like, helpless, vulnerable. Yeah, that was awkward.
Starting point is 01:53:04 Like, I just, I felt like he it wasn't a big deal and he was just like no i don't want you helping me take a bath i'd rather be in a crack house at that point i didn't be i'm gonna rehab in the crack house before you see me i didn't been there listen bro you can't for real shit i didn't been under that knife so much man listen dog I've seen it been there and having like I had one We almost do we need to go So this just it was a surgery but it was so I fuck around got Merson Staff is a form of staph infection and worried it decide to manifest
Starting point is 01:53:50 People was like nigga how everybody know that's around me. I'm clean as I'm sitting on the toilet seat or whatever But they decide to manifest like on my ass cheek, right? Okay. I started was a pimple So I'm squeezing I'm trying to think but it's getting harder and harder. I'll go out play a basketball game We're in Charlotte. I go play but it feel like my back hurt It's like it's in fact. So I'm out there, bitch can barely move. I'm trying to play. The ball on the ground. I die. And boom, it tried to roll over and get up.
Starting point is 01:54:15 And I guess I press right on. It pops. Sup? I go in the back, I'm in pain, pain. I ain't never, all the surgeries I've had, all the shit we talked about Mm-hmm going to back they look at it. Dr. T Charlotte team back to come in and tell me what it is Oh, that's mercy. The fuck is mercy for my staff affection. How the fuck did I get that?
Starting point is 01:54:35 Mm-hmm, you know open wounds. I had no surgery. What but whatever So how do you take it? Oh, no, we got to cut it out That'll cut what out? Yeah Man, they too late over on the table scalpel numb me up nigga. And you just I feel just Cutting the hole in my cheek. So you got a dimple right now. Yeah, listen My name dog so we get on the plane they banished me up give me pain pills all that Yeah, listen. He was about to show that he was too dumb. My nigga, dog. So we get on the plane.
Starting point is 01:55:08 They bandage me up, give me pain pills, all that. I'm in so much pain. Bled through my clothes, everything. Get to the hotel. I'm in the room and I'm just crying. Just on pain pills. Just crying. Don't say you cried. No, fuck it.
Starting point is 01:55:21 I cried. Don't say I cried. No, fuck that. Unsolicited cry. I cried. I cried. No, fuck that. Unsolicited cry. Pain. Just sitting there, that shit, I'm just...
Starting point is 01:55:32 So you're talking about humiliation, right? So I got a choice. So now I got to go back to the doctor next day. They got to take the gauze out and repack it. Paint that.
Starting point is 01:55:42 So now I got to go home. Somebody got to clean it it I can't see it yo girl got my mom so I had a choice my mom or my mom stand with me at the time in Denver oh my girl would you pick my mom what about your mom when your woman to see you in that vulnerable position man my mom man listen man you got to get out. Yeah, yeah. You got to get out. Close the door behind you. My mama here. She got it.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Yup. Oh my God. No, bro. Every single time. Y'all kill me with that. That's so bad. You ain't going to use that against me. Nah, you ain't going to run better than holding that one over your head.
Starting point is 01:56:15 Holding your booty, boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Nah, that's it. Here you go. Holding a booty ass.
Starting point is 01:56:23 Like, there it is. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But no, that's some of the shit that people don't like. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's it. Here you go. All in the booty ass. Like, there it is. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? But no, that's some of the shit that people don't, like... Oh, God. Fucking stab effects. Really? Like, that's... Talking about pain.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Damn. Real life. Baby, you got to go. Close the door. Yeah, you close the door behind. Mama Locky. Yeah. Okay, here we go.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Now we get started. Now we get started. There you go. No, having the guard, man, I'm like, come on, man. Damn. Of all things, this shit, really? begone, man. I'm like, come on, man. Damn. Of all things, this shit, really? That's why after that point, nigga, locker room, I was bringing towels home.
Starting point is 01:56:52 I wasn't touching. Nigga's like, yo, this nigga here got... He used to bring his own sheets to the hotel. Yeah, that's smart. Nigga, take all this off. Bad, bruh. It's 800 thread. Bad. But nah, yeah, people pain.
Starting point is 01:57:03 They got to go out and let that shit hit. Bad, bruh. It's 800, it's 803. Bad. But nah, yeah, people, pain, they gotta go out and let that shit hit and then try to go hoop. So real quick for all y'all, what's the best advice
Starting point is 01:57:15 you have for Lonzo, not just for basketball, before his health going forward? Get a hobby. Get a, I mean, no, no, no, serious. Get a hobby. He do. He got one.
Starting point is 01:57:27 Yeah, he rap. Yeah, he rap. You know, when you don't have a hobby and, you know, everything gets focused on, you know, that sport, the fact that you can't do it anymore, that is what fucks you up mentally. And I think what we have is when we're seeing a game in real time and you're telling me that I got to get to 100 to feel better and we're starting at one and for perfect rehab, you got to go through every single step. And we're athletes, we're trying to skip one, two, seven, 15, right?
Starting point is 01:58:00 34. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're trying to hurry this process up. And, you know, with him, you know, they say it takes a year, you know, a year and two months, just in case.
Starting point is 01:58:11 You know what I mean? At this point, you know, knowing what we know now, you know, and get a hobby, like, to get your mind off of, you know, what's going on around you to make that time go faster. What did you do?
Starting point is 01:58:22 Huh? What was your hobby? Depressed. Sex, probably. I would advise him to stop listening to the media. Who gives a fuck what Stephen A. Screamin' A. says? That whole thing he was doing, getting up, that might have set him back. You know what I'm saying? Your knee might not even been ready to do that just yet. And who cares what people are saying?
Starting point is 01:58:46 Who cares what timeline people are putting out there? Stay on your task. Stay on your focus. I don't care if they say one year. If it takes two years, who cares? The goal is to get back. And that means block all the noise, all the bullshit out. Stay focused on your task.
Starting point is 01:59:02 It's about a career, yeah? Yeah. Career. Yeah, yeah career it's huge no yeah just put the time in man take your time be patient you know it's seems like impossible to be patient at this point to your point you know i'm saying um yeah yeah get a hobby do something different be able to step away. To your point exactly, quit listening to the media, man. They'll break you if you let them.
Starting point is 01:59:32 Do that rehab, man. Put that time in. Put that time in. Have pool parties. Yes, absolutely. I got a surgery one time. I went to Miami for like three weeks.
Starting point is 01:59:47 Fresh off of surgery. Right to Miami. Yeah, yeah. We be down here. Son, I ain't going to Denver for shit. I'm going down here. Yeah, nah, that's...
Starting point is 01:59:56 Yeah, Lonzo, hoping for the best, man. Hope you get back out there soon. But let's keep this thing moving. Time for the last segment of the week.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Mostly fans. We asked y'all to drop some good questions in some of y'all actually delivered. Oh, okay So first question comes from his underdog user or their underdog username is the ultimate rage Do you think Lonzo ball will ever return to basketball for my Bulls? I? Think so. Yeah, I mean, you know just you know, it's time, you know I I think sometimes we come back early trying to prove that we're hurt. Instead of proving that we're healthy, we're trying to prove that we're actually hurt versus just getting 100%. Forget your place, right? Like, you know, you're coming back trying to continue where you were.
Starting point is 02:00:40 It's going to set you back more. Get healthy 100% and then return. If it takes, hey, how many years you got left? Four? On this contract? If it takes four years
Starting point is 02:00:51 when four, shit, that might be the best time. Shit, get that new contract. Shit, just take your time. You got four years and make sure you're 100%. That's all.
Starting point is 02:01:03 Yeah, just be patient with it, man. Be patient with it. Actually, he's got two more. He's got this season, then he's got a player option next year. Both for 20, though. Whatever. Pool parties.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Alright, question number two. This is from an underdog username, KingBrown03. What do players and we'll say players' wives, actually think of Skip Bayless? Oh, God. Let me go first. Please go first.
Starting point is 02:01:35 We've got to ask another question. I can't stand. I don't think that you have to be a player to talk sports, but I think it helps because there's just certain things you would never say. Disrespectful things, inconsiderate things. And for him to have played at the level he played at,
Starting point is 02:01:54 I think he shouldn't say even worse things. He's just out of pocket a lot of times, and it comes from a place of ignorance because there's just certain shit that he says that makes you want to smack the bullshit out of him. That's why I don't like him. You can have an opinion. You can talk about the Cowboys going to the Super Bowl every year with your dumb ass, but you should not
Starting point is 02:02:17 do certain inconsiderate things. Watch out. Y'all not going this year. I don't want this. There's just certain things that you should have a mental note about that you're saying about players that just shouldn't even come out of your mouth. He seems very dumb and disrespectful, and that's the part I can't stand about him. him? Knowing with all the power he has and I pay attention to his, he wakes up at 2.11, 3.11, right?
Starting point is 02:02:53 He does his routine, lives, works out, go through his routine, go through all the topics, he picks all the topics. So it seems like it's more of a calculation than it is ignorance to me, right? The fact that you're- It's a game. Yeah, I just think it's part of just the whole process of being in the media, hitting the headlines, staying on top, staying relevant.
Starting point is 02:03:22 So it seems like a more calculated strategy than saying just dumb shit just to say it, you know, because if you're picking every topic, you're waking up at, you know, six hours before your show doing the whole process of it. What, everything that comes out your mouth is actually a calculated plan for the reaction that it is. It's more of a hard to say it is more of a genius type of perspective
Starting point is 02:03:53 than it is what we would think just listening to him. Why would you say that stupid shit knowing that that is the point for me to respond like that. Which is why he's still where he is And then forces co-hosts to have to do the same. Yeah, I'm saying now you have to go down to that level Yeah, yeah, and this he's taking a villain role
Starting point is 02:04:15 He did great villain. He's taking a villain role. So and everybody needs a villain and He plays it. Well, I'm saying he played it to the point where he has fucking own shows and own show making a king's ransom talking about other people's lives and livelihoods. Shit, he's, to get to the point, he's a fucking genius. Yeah. Like, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:04:37 He's a genius. Just think about it. I'm saying. Great game plan. He can't be fucking his wife. He's here. But I'm saying, he's here. Think about, like, when we talk about certain names, right?
Starting point is 02:04:48 You talk about Skip. You talk about Shannon. You talk about, they're at the top still for a reason, right? So instead of, like, listening to, you know, the things they say, you kind of got to study how they're studying. Because we have some of the people that's been there, too. And you're like, what happened to you? There's reason.
Starting point is 02:05:09 But I would never want to be that rich and famous for disrespecting people the way that they do. That is some of the stuff they say. But still, that's just like I'm surprised Unc didn't smack him. The one day when he disrespected him, when he was talking about Tom Brady and he just shit on Unk. I knew that was the day. That was it right there. That was the day Unk said,
Starting point is 02:05:30 oh, I'm out of here. He, count your fucking days. I know Unk said that shit. He violated his own co-host on several occasions. And maybe that's why I be offending when you be sitting here letting niggas disrespect me too.
Starting point is 02:05:41 But I feel like some things just should not happen when you at work you know i was supposed to react but i'm not you just you just go ahead and shoot me i'm shooting you no i am gonna shoot you i got a bulletproof phone i got my i got my best though no i am gonna shoot you because you asked me last summer to do this show. And I finally, you know what I'm saying, left my family. You know how hard that was for me to come on this show, only to sit here and be disrespected by niggas that don't even have the IQ I have. I got 17 years in this business.
Starting point is 02:06:17 I should not be getting disrespected on this couch. The end. Yeah, smoke. Thank you. Yeah, smoke. Thank you. Yeah, no, yeah. Yeah. Our producer said, you're talking about Skip Bayless dedication, but you're so dedicated, you literally sleep above your studio.
Starting point is 02:06:37 No, Gil, I know you put in work. I mean, I mean, but that's, you know. He had a notebook yesterday he pulled out. I was like. No, I mean, but that's what I'm saying. Like, to be in this business, like, okay, so when, you know, I was talking with D-Wade. D-Wade said, when you're coming, when you're doing your second career, remember everyone that you're competing with have college experience. Right?
Starting point is 02:07:00 They went to college for this. Your experience, you went to college for the court part. They're coming from the spectator part. So you're at disadvantage on how to deliver the studying part. You just know what you know about it. You have to learn what they do in a faster time. Correct. So the only way to get that time is to just study them.
Starting point is 02:07:23 So I sit and study mannerisms. You know what I mean? And that's where I'm like, I see the backlash, right? I'm looking at Skip. I know there was something with the football player, right? Since I don't watch football,
Starting point is 02:07:38 I don't really go down that route. And for him not to apologize keeps the spotlight on him because people want to keep talking about it yeah oh uh namar hamlin yeah so the reason he don't apologize for every time it comes up you keep coming back he still has it up there he still has it up there yeah at that point all i care about my views i care about my show it's disgusting though it's it's kind of disgusting but it's but it's what he does it's what he does. It's what he does. It's the life he's chosen.
Starting point is 02:08:06 No pussy at home. You don't sleep in the bed with your wife. She done already told us that y'all been sleeping in separate beds like the last 15 years, some shit like that. You would rather have clicks and views and money than lay against buns every night?
Starting point is 02:08:20 You're a weirdo. 15 years, I'm pretty sure he's... That dick probably don't even work. He's fit. That's what I said. I don't like, you know, I've seen, you know, we've seen the whole Trump and his wife, you know. We know fake
Starting point is 02:08:35 when we see it. You know, I'm like, don't hold my hand today, alright? I'm going to try to go until you do that. Okay, baby. He said, go. I feel sorry for her Where that at now? She had the mall like yeah, mr. Trump you you mr. President you you know, so we don't know what's really behind the scenes But you know, he's he's still on TV for a reason and this at this point just you know
Starting point is 02:09:01 Studying just like Malika Andrews. You got to study. Yeah. You know what I mean? We might not like what they do to be famous, just like people don't like what we do, you know, in our career. Right? You know, it's no different than me saying I'm not going to pass on the ball because I don't like his work ethic. Right? It's no different.
Starting point is 02:09:19 Right? It ain't no different. It's just, you know, how we view it. You know, we have to put ourselves on that side of the field. Yeah. That's how I look at it so next question this comes from uh underdog username the hell i hit the smoke for if you still have okay yes for me oh now you complain when i don't you're right that was you don't answer no questions i'm trying to hit the question quarter and now you mad again i gotta do shit right. I couldn't because it's nap time.
Starting point is 02:09:45 It is a little nap time. I'm taking a nap today too so fuck it.
Starting point is 02:09:50 This is from Benny Benzino. You gotta pick your kids up at 2 a.m.
Starting point is 02:09:52 No. Benny. He lit. I got T-balled on at 4 30 so I need to
Starting point is 02:09:58 nap for that shit. I'm about to be exhausted. Which NBA player you didn't expect
Starting point is 02:10:04 to score 50? I'm going to read off some of the list of players with one 50-point game. Kevin McHale, Kelly Trapuka, Tony Parker, TJ Warren. Wait, what? Slow down. Slow down, bro. We don't know you. When you start from, like, the 30s, bro, we don't know that basketball.
Starting point is 02:10:16 So slow down when you say some of the names. Okay, go. Kevin McHale. He's right? Yeah. You know the answer to that question. Don't expect that. Kelly Trapuka. Don't expect that. Kelly Chapuka.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Don't expect that. Tony Parker. Yes. TJ Warren. Pascal Siakam. Tony Doak. I didn't see that. Sadiq Bae.
Starting point is 02:10:35 Karis Levert. Nick Anderson. Andre Miller. Corey Brewer. Which one of those? Corey Brewer. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Corey Brewer. Dang. Yeah, yeah, yeah, hold on, hold on. Cory Brewer.
Starting point is 02:10:46 Damn. Yeah, yeah, yeah. McHale at a close second. Nah, Cory Brewer because it was never. Hey, Kevin McHale had the big, the. Only because he was a defensive guy. Hustle man was never a number one option. When did he get 50?
Starting point is 02:10:59 Who, Kevin McHale? No. Cory Brewer. Cory Brewer. Cory Brewer. Y'all remember that game? No. No.
Starting point is 02:11:04 Cory Brewer 50, hold on. That's what I'm saying. I don't remember the exact day, but I remember. No'all remember that game? No, no Don't on Remember the exact day but I know he was he was a glue guy. Yeah, right and you know, I Sucked if he scored 50 Had a 51 piece back in 2014 whoa It's for 50 had a 51 piece it's back in 2014 whoa We've got a season. He's with the Timberwolves against the Rockets last game of season. It was late in April April 11 Nobody was playing but still even for it, but I'm saying even for a player like that like you the mentality is the mentality It's just like yeah, I'm gonna try to score today. Yeah, I'm gonna be
Starting point is 02:11:45 The salmon shots he put up let me go to the mentality of it being different. It's just like, yeah, I'm about to try to score today. Yeah, yeah, I'm about to be number one option. Does it say how many shots he put up? Let me go to the... I know, Ken, you're still like... Ken, you're like, wait, what the fuck was I doing wrong? 19 of 30. 30 shots? And how many, was it three? One, three.
Starting point is 02:11:59 Wow. What I'm saying is, like, you wouldn't expect, that's like Patrick Beverly taking 30 shots today. You wouldn't expect that. PJ Tucker taking 30 shots. Yeah. Right? It wouldn't cross your mind.
Starting point is 02:12:15 Because they play the game as more of a team game. I'm here for defense. I'm here to do all the little 30s. Jump your dog. Yeah. And to say, all right, we're going to give you 30 shots a day. 30 shots up.
Starting point is 02:12:26 And they actually like... And went in. Okay. And they went in. Yeah. Get buckets. We're going to... That's the end of the show.
Starting point is 02:12:34 You got some more smoke for us? We got it. Yep. We'll be back next week. That'll be our final week before we take a little breather. My last day. So really enjoy.
Starting point is 02:12:42 Mika, we appreciate you coming through with the Kobe Swim suit. That's why she shot at the boy. That's why you pulled out the cannon on me. Last day for now. We coming back soon. You know I went to broadcasting school and everything.
Starting point is 02:12:58 Don't play with me. I did both. Pro, school. Give me my fucking props. But you'll be back season two. I will be back season two. Four days. Fly as fuck again. You said what?
Starting point is 02:13:11 Fly as fuck again. With the sias here? Sias all day. If they put an H on the end, I could rock for those two. You said if they put an H on the end. I'll be the Josias. But Katie, we appreciate you. We appreciate all y'all too.
Starting point is 02:13:25 We'll be back next week. We got a special interview dropping Monday. I can't confirm it yet because we're still editing and we got to make sure it's good to go. But if you see it Monday, that means it happened. But we'll see y'all next week, if not on Tuesday. Gil Zarina presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! Have a good weekend!
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