Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Talks Team USA & Kevin Durant's Suns

Episode Date: October 5, 2023

Gil's Arena Rounds out Week 1 of Season 2 where Gilbert Arenas and The Gil's Arena Crew give their thoughts on Team USA's disappointing showing in the FIBA 2023 World Cup and whether or not Lebron James and Steph Curry will rally the troops to save Team USA for the 2024 Paris Olympics. They also discuss the sleeper Phoenix Suns and how Kevin Durant has a great shot for a title paired next to Devin Booker and Bradley Beal. Please Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ THE HOMETOWN FAVORITES https://thehometownfavorites.com/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Pre-Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:09:02 Gil's Arena Debates The Dream Team vs The Redeem Team 0:14:04 What's The Best Starting 5 For Team USA? 0:24:01 Is The NBA Being Watered Down? 0:32:47 Debating Team USA Rosters 0:59:37 Breaking Down The New Look Suns 1:17:43 Nuggets - Lakers Rivalry 1:30:13 Are People Sleeping On The Nuggets? 1:34:09 Better Scorer in Prime: KD or Melo? 1:42:25 Possible for Players to be "Too Nice"? 2:00:39 Would Harden Fit in Miami? 2:09:39 Would You Rather Rather Win a Ring On The Bench or Score 39 PPG and Miss Playoffs? 2:20:39 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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for the locker room. Agency, bro. Change, yeah. My kids watch me today. Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! Whoa, whoa! We got the crew back. Ah. Finally.

Thursday. Thursday. Last show of the week. We got to go out with a bang. Here at Gilbert Arena, this is always good. The fit game is really really elevated. I'm sorry man. I had to jump in that closet man Wait, those pants you can convert to short Yeah Booty shorts, I don't even know that I'm ready for the smoke all day. I'm at the gym. I'm at the gym. Like, what's the hand?

I got you. I got you. You got two fits. We got Brandon Jennings back with us. Representing Tough Crowd as always. Head to toe? Yeah. Head to toe.

With the Steph? With the Steph? Yeah, Tough Crowd. The collab. The collab, you know. We got Rashad McCants back with us. Come on, man. Greatness.

Come on, man. Underdog ring, huh? So, did you get an underdog ring? No, I didn't get one. I didn't get one. No, y'all didn't get one. They sent me the baby. It say champion on it, man. Okay. It say champion.

Oh, because the 10-1? In everything. Oh, 10-1. You know what I'm saying? Viral moments, man. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? We put these numbers up, man.

Let's do it. Let's put some numbers up today. NBA preseason is finally here. Mavs and Timberwolves game is wrapping up. I think Luka dropped a 25 piece in 17 minutes. I don't know if that means anything, but... It do. Who did they play?

Mavs, Timberwolves, Abu Dhabi, I believe. Okay, okay. And Ant-Man didn't play, but it is what it is. We here. Load management? No, he's coming back from the Olympics. He's about to get fired Olympics. You're fine. So was Luka.

Yeah, but they didn't go as far as. They didn't. Yeah, they did. They lost a game before. Oh. I mean, everybody's built different. I thought it was him. I thought it was him.

That's all. Here's what's cooking. Is the NBA watered down? At least one former lottery pick thinks so. And there's reasons why I may surprise you. After Team USA's disappointed finish at the World Cup, NBA stars are ready to take their talents to the Olympics, but will they be a dream team or a scheme team?

And the Nuggets had a slow offseason compared to other teams, but do the defending champs have enough to repeat? I already think I know what you're going to say. But before we get into all that, as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Download the app. Use promo code GIL. You have the opportunity to get the 500 deposit match,

but you bullshitted. That has passed you by now. But they're still giving you a $100 deposit match. You put in 100. They match at 100. Why wouldn't you want to do it? We see the chat. Chat was very mean yesterday.

Very disappointed in you guys. Very hurtful. A lot of slander going. Rashad, you were watching. It was, you know. It was vicious. We had a group chat talk about it. That's why I fuck with the chat now. Remember how I was against the chat?

Because I wasn't in there. Y'all was just feeding me the energy. And I was like, fuck the chat. You realize the chat is equal opportunists, huh? Equal opportunists. And they funny as hell. And I fuck with them. Yesterday was my day, and I appreciate you guys. I told you.

These days, you're dead. No, Gil. Oh, no. Some days, they rock with me. Some days, they rock with me. Y'all bully me to go into the gym, so God bless you guys. Damn. Bullying works.

But as always, we do mostly fans at the end of the show. If you're in the chat, drop a good question, and use your underdog username. We will give you a $50 bonus. That's $50 free dollars that will come into your account if you ask a good question. We do Mostly Fans at the end of the show. We ask the Mostly Fans questions during the show if they're good questions. You can spam us. You can do whatever you want. Let's fuck with this algorithm, run these numbers up. As you know, our haters have been active while we were on break, trying to really diminish and

tarnish the things that we were doing here. But nonetheless, we're going to keep doing what we do. And if you can't watch the video version of the show, which we hope that you do, you can download the podcast version of the show, Spotify, Apple Music, wherever you get your podcasts. I tell you all the same shit every day. Some of y'all listen, some of y'all don't. Now let's get into it. So after a disappointing finish at the FIBA World Cup, NBA stars are trying to assemble like the Avengers for the 2024 Olympics. KD said he's playing. Steph, LeBron, Tatum, AD, Draymond, Kyrie, Trey, Ant-Man, amongst other stars are down as well. And we got a big announcement

this morning. Joel Embiid announced today that he will be taking his talents to Team USA as well, picking America over France in his native Cameroon. So let's start with MB first. What does MB playing with USA say about the world? I'll tell you. I'll tell you. Shit. If he going to duck the smoke with Joker, he going to duck the smoke with his own goddamn country too. We expected this.

We expected this. Shit. Shit. What are you going to do? Go over there to Cameroon and play by yourself? Nope. He ain't going to go to France because Rudy and them there, he ain't going to get all the credit. He can blend in with the team USA and say I did what I did and I

get a gold medal. We ain't saying they're not going to win. They should fucking win. You say Embiid's duck and smoke. He should have. Hell yeah, he's duck and smoke. Because he's in Paris. He could have rocked with Franz, Winby, Gobert. I'm calling them ducks.

The ducks. The three big men. What are they going to win? Joel, the duck, Embiid. He's duck. But when we was hitting that, I told you that y'all going to lose one of them big men. That was him. Yeah.

I mean, we knew it was up in the air between Kyrie and him. We might lose them two. Kyrie was already USA. USA he's a mate though. He's a mate, but our criteria wasn't It was our criteria. It wasn't their criteria. This is our wish list. We're gonna win for sure playing against other countries We're gonna win. So that's not Like that's not hard like that's that wasn't the argument anyway at all like putting everybody together going against Italy France And I mean, yeah. That's okay. What about Germany?

Nothing. I mean, the only team that got a chance, and that's like 20%, is probably like Canada. Canada, yeah. And that's it. But it's like, other than that, it's like putting all those guys together. I mean, come on. Yeah. Y'all should feel good about y'all.

Jump up to get beat down. But I think the biggest thing is, I think the biggest thing is I think the biggest thing is you know is this team Better than you know the dream team the 92. We don't know what the team is yet I'm just saying I mean, but I mean with the way is available way So I mean the way it's shaping up the way it's a well 92 team in my mind is not actually the best team ever so wait a Who? 2005 the deep chin no the redeem team. Oh, hey, right ain't that away? Which one do you think the Team. No, the Redeem Team. 08, right? Ain't that 08?

Which one? Dream Team 2 is the best assembled talent. Which act? The 96 team is the best talent that we've ever put together. I gotta go back and look at that. Oh, I got the list! Yeah, please, go ahead. We're gonna say the Dream Team first, right?

You got MJ, Pippen Barkley Pat Malone Clyde Stockton David Mullen wait Mike played twice yeah he got two gold medals Christian later he played in the 80s Christian later can't get no so did no no no so those are the all NBA players those nine okay right and then the weakest on this team was magic, Bird, and Mullen. Right? They wasn't... That's the first team. That's the first team. Not from that practice

it didn't look like Magic was weak. Yeah, yeah. That was a... Get him, Pearl! That was a... But are we considering that in that time those players,

how they were playing in that time, would still be better than the 96 in that time? What I'm saying is they all had that back injury. They was the face. They were the face

But right the three I didn't name at the end. They wasn't all NBA players. Hmm the dream team to Barkley penny Malone Hakeem O'Neal came off the bench Hakeem came off the bench both of those average 29 and 12 that year Yeah, Gary Payton subbed in for Vin Baker Pippen David Robinson John Stockton the weakest on this team was Grant Hill Reggie Miller and Mitch Richmond all 12 was all NBA players That year fire, okay fire okay redeem team Okay. Redeem team. Yeah, let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Braun, Melo, Chris Paul, Kevin Love, Kobe, KD, Westbrook, Tyson Chandler. Wait, K-Love was on that team? Yeah.

With Kobe in him? Mm-hmm. I didn't know that. I thought... And then... That was his rookie year. 2012. Was he on that Redeem tournament?

No, K-Love wasn't on that. K-Love got drafted in 2010. 18 months. 2010. I thought it was 2018. So let me read that. 2012 was your never deemed to know In 2012 oh a team was Carlos Boozer JK LeBron Darren Williams my red Dwayne Wait no 18 Oh Oh, that's all you saying is cold. That's it Okay now the way okay wait hello, huh? Yeah, huh Chris Paul, yeah, you know what I'm looking for Okay, thank you. Hey kid That's your prince? J-Kid. J-Kid? Chris Bosh. Chris Bosh? Yeah, no, there's a bunch of players on that team that wasn't even all nothing when they played. Go.

Michael Redd? Uh-huh. Okay, that's... Michael Redd? Uh-huh. Anthony Davis was a... No, no, no, wait. Bruh. I did not just tell you Grant Hill, Reggie Miller, and Mitch Richmond's was the worst players on this team and 96

Not the worst they wouldn't even came off the bitch Those three players wouldn't even make a heal on those three players wouldn't make the o-18 Shaquille O'Neal came off the middle three players wouldn't even make the way when they would do you see the o-8 name those players? Oh, no, they wouldn't even they wouldn't be the second unit You say Reggie Mitch and But no no second team now NBA players on that oh, yeah, where they gonna be where they gonna fit in that girl Wait, where they're not playing over the way Reggie not in those we ready not for playing over Kobe. This is bench players. This is bench. Hakeem is coming off the bench.

Shaquille O'Neal came off the bench. Name those bottom. The bench players for the... What's his name again? Chris Paul came off the bench. Michael Redd. No, no, no. Michael Redd. Michael Redd. Come on, Michael Redd. Carlos Boozer.

Darren Williams. Who? Darren Williams. He he play he play him for sure over who? All ready. You play over Reggie over Reggie. Yeah, that's all Chris Paul and Darren Williams in the back were for sure No taste That's why that's all right. I'm. Dominguez, him, Finest. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I forgot to add this.

Dream Team 2 and Dream Team, besides Christian Ziegler, all top 75 players, all Hall of Fame players. Now, let's name the players that ain't making the Hall of Fame on this list. Who do you think is not making the Hall of Fame? You know them. Let's go. No, I'm not doing that, Gil. Let's go.

Boozer. I don't want beef. Give me the computer. I don't want beef. Okay, I'm not saying he won't make it. No, but... Boozer won't make the... Darren Williams, Michael Redd... Hall of Famer is politics. Taye Shumpert, that's four players.

That's four players who won't make the Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame is politics. So that means they got to play against the bench Hall of Famers. There's a lot of people that should be in the Hall of Fame. Hey, don't get me talking about the Hall of Fame. There's a lot of people that should be in the Hall of Fame. Because I prepared for Hall of Fame talk today. I'm just trying to tell you what the teams look like.

I'm cool. I would love to see any of them three in the backcourt with Darren Williams and CP during that time. Good luck. They're not even playing. Who? Those three. Timmy Hardaway? No, no, no.

No, no, no. He said Mitch. Those are the weakest. He said Mitch. They're not even. Mitch, Reggie, and Grant Hill. Are the weakest. Three Hall of Famers are the weakest on the team

He's you trying to make Darren Williams the starter, right? No, no They're saying off the bench then who's the start? What pity Hardaway gave us two good years relax damn That's your favorite player. What? I'm cold. That's your favorite player. What? I'm cold. I'm cold. You crazy as hell.

I'm cold. I'm cold. Two years, the only game was? These people out here make them boys look so stupid, boy. Who? Who? We'll make who look stupid? Penny. We'll make who look stupid? Cole?

Darren Williams? Cole? You talking about point guard? This is my point guard. This is my point guard. This is my PG. I don't know. My PG 6'7". I don't know. John Stockton and Penny. You don't know? John Stockton and Penny was the one and the two.

I mean, I'm just not a Penny fan or T-Mac fan. Those are not my guys. Touching the... Hey, he don't know. No, fine. I mean... He wants them 5'10". He said two good years, man.

Two good years. I'm screaming cold. That's cool. For the shoes alone. We got two players off the bench, 60 and 24 together. No, I agree. Shaquille O'Neal and Hakeem off the bench, 60 and 24 together. I agree. Shaquille O'Neal and Hakeem off the bench. That's 60 points off the bench.

Don't be talking good about Hakeem now. Don't be talking good about Hakeem now, though. Don't be using Hakeem now. I'm talking about Hakeem as a hooper. Two different people. Don't be trying to use his name good now, nigga. Hooper. He was traveling.

I'm not talking about the teacher. He was traveling. I'm not the teacher. We call him travel. The only thing he's after. H'm not talking about the teacher. He was traveling. I'm not the teacher We call her travel only for game after the game. That's the third only fans after the opinion. Are we better than Paul George? Mmm, when any prime facts in their prime when he was healthy them to match it up. I'm just asking How was that not a debate that's not a landslide you I'm just that's not a landslide break his leg I mean what a PG got a jumper. I mean Conference Eastern Conference before they

Before they got injured both players does not even close at that point in time Oh, no, penny don't got the Jimmy work like PG do. PG got a full three-level package. I don't know. PG got three-level package, bro. They just unleashing moves that he was doing back then today. All I'm saying is I don't know. We sagging on Penny. They both got killer signals.

Sag. You can sag. Sag. You can sag. Sag as soon as he shoots. You can sag. He come in and lay here. Get it off the rim.

MJ tried that. Get it off the rim MJ tried that get it off the room All right. I just want to say I missed y'all I missed this I'm just saying they tried it get it off the rail try it. He would have the rim you know, they're big back Hey Pippen and Jordan all first team got embarrassed. He was cooking got embarrassed We're not saying he wasn't cooking got embarrassed about one man Mike and Mike in the 45 jersey Get the fuck out of here I thought when he came back with 45 he was times two Cooking got embarrassed about one man Mike and Mike in the 45 jersey He came back with 45 he was times two I thought it was Mike Tom Let's stop this they put his ass back to MJ number 23 and what happened after that right our team with them saying

Well make change Nigger I make change. Shabba. Nigga. He came back next year doing his thing. I always know it's a good show. When Gil starts sweating, I can already see. You can see him sweating. You're keeping it hot in here. But I'm just saying, Gil. When you're passionate about shit, you get it going. But let's talk about this current installment.

We've heard all these names that could potentially play. Obviously, health and all those other things are issues that come into play. But just right now on paper, what is the best starting five for Team USA at this Olympics? You want to go first? You may go first. It's the Gills Arena. Yeah.

Curry. Before you finish, did Dame say he was going to play? He has to play. I don't know if it's been confirmed yet, but let's just, we're going to. No, not if Kyrie, because Kyrie committed. All right, go ahead. But usually we take three guards anyway, right? I will say so curry

Tatum Katie brawn and bead. Oh you started a bit, okay? Well, so you saying Dane won't make it or no I said yes he hasn't committed he hasn't committed no he hasn't committed yet yeah but but if he does come in he'll be definitely gonna be if he commits okay I don't see Steph being over Kyrie you know we could give Steph the praise because of the chip championships and all that, but as far as skill level and point guard side, I'm going to roll with Kai.

I'm going to go with Kai number one. Over Steph? We're already starting. All right. Look, I'll do you one better. I'll put Steph at the two. Okay, I was about to say, let's start both. I'll put Steph at the two.

Okay. I'll put Braun at the three, I'm about to say let's start both. I'll put Steph at the two. Okay, I'll put Bron at the three about the same I Don't want to waste any time trying to play small ball I want to put a D at the four and beat at the five Tatum come off the bench Tatum and Katie come off the bench and Kevin way to rent Because he can't I mean, I'm going to go with Brian and we're going to play big. I don't want to depend

on KD to get rebounds for me and block shots and play defense. I'm going to go heavy on the defense and then I'm going to go heavy on the mismatch. And we got Brian facilitating the passing to Kyrie and Steph shooting the threes, spacing. They all are knowledgeable about playing team defense, too.

I think that that'll be a dominant five for sure. I'm going to go Steph at the one, Kyrie at the two, KD at the three, Braun at the four, and Embiid at the five. There's no way in hell KD's coming off the bench. There's no way in hell Kevin Durant is coming off the bench. No way. Put them lined up and see who's... There's no way.

There's no way in hell Kevin Durant is coming off the bench. Queue it up. Queue it up which team. That's fine. We'll go who got the better team for DePaul? Yeah. Here's your show notes. I feel it's an unfair competitive...

Wow. I'm just being honest. And you know it. I like the way you voiced that. I feel unfair competitive Wow Boys there I like gonna show you what's up with me and the group chat. Yes! Finally! Finally! Strategic light-skinned injury. My man showed up today. He showed up for the beef today. I'm happy to be here with y'all. Alright, well let's keep this moving. In regards to Dame, Dame said I would definitely be interested.

I don't know if I can say right now to do something that I would do, would absolutely do. But that brings another point, because now with this squad, who's going to get, they're going to have tryouts and that means some guys aren't going to make it. A lot of dudes are going to be in their feelings. What's funny is, if you think about the other two teams, when we, how we started USA,

there was no tryouts. They picked the best. Yep. When Larry Brown got in this motherfucker, that's when this shit started going downhill because he started picking his favorites and started creating a team like it was his Detroit Pistons team. Yeah, for sure. And that's when it started going watered down. We started trying to have two to three players, and then we create these role players around our three, four superstars.

Right? Not realizing when the superstars ain't playing well, the role player's supposed to take over. But if they're role players, that's all they know is role playing. Right? Well, if the starting five back then didn't play well, there's a whole

another starting five coming in the game. And that's where I think we lost insight, where we were trying to create teams and just put the best players available together and they will figure it out. How many players on the USA team? Twelve. Twelve. So you're saying just take the best twelve? Yeah.

That's what the other two did. It's going to be a lot of... It's going to be a... Some people ain't making it. Larry Brown fucked up. Yeah. That's what the other two did. It's going to be a lot of... It's going to be... It's Herbie Wayne. Herbie Wayne making it. Larry Brown fucked up. He tried to create a culture, winning culture,

created around, like you said, the Pistons type of identity where you got rope. That ain't... It ain't working. And that's what he's seen in 04. That shit is not flying because, like you said,

you can't sub in and be five in, five out. That was the worst team ever. What team was that? 2014. And we take third? Hey, I watched the roster get assembled. We took third? I watched that roster get assembled.

We took third, huh? Bronze. But that, but how y'all calling it bronze? It was the worst team. It was the third? Because he was the best player on it. He was the best player on that team. Who was? No, he wasn't. Brown he was the best player on that team. We got third place. He was the best player on that team. Who was?

Bron. No, he wasn't. Bron was not the best player on that team. On four? Y'all are not going to do that to Bron. No, no. Y'all are not going to do that to him. Who was better?

That's that problem. Everyone is using LeBron, Melo, who is Dwayne Wade as the face. Yeah, they were young. They were rookies. No, no, no, no, no. Yes, they were rookies. They were rookies. The whole team was better.

Yeah, they were rookies. They didn't play at all. They didn't play, yeah. Allen Iverson, Stephon Marbury, got Melo. And Duncan were the faces of this team. Yeah, they were rookies. They didn't play at all. They didn't play, yeah. Allen Iverson, Stephon Marbury, got Melo. And Duncan were the faces of this team. Yeah, Tim Duncan. But who was better than LeBron? They were rookies.

So Amari Stoudemire wasn't playing. It was Brown, so he wasn't playing the young guys. So Amari didn't play. LeBron didn't play. Melo didn't play. And they was hooping. And D-Wade played a little bit more than them, right? That's it.

Lamar Odom was playing. Richard Jefferson played more than LeBron and all of them. We can agree that they wasn't playing the best players. They were rookies. No, they were young. But that's what I'm saying. Being young don't mean they wasn't the best on the team. That's what I'm saying.

But everybody wants to use LeBron now. That's it. When he didn't play play they remember this is when Melo used to be in the back of the bus. Yeah. Yeah, it used to be in the back of the bus singing a con But that was that was that that was that team where you had players that was playing over them because you called it that veteran type of... When they had no shooters, you have Mulberry, you have AI, you have Duncan, you have Lamar, you have Richard Jefferson.

Where's the spacing? Shane Battier was on that team too, I think. Let me put that. Yeah, I think Shane Battier was... No, I don't think so. It was another sorry person. Yeah, it was somebody. I'm not going to say no names. But then it was like,

you know, in a team like that, there was no spacing for Tim Duncan. He was just going to sit in his lap and that was like, Tim Duncan failed us. Nah, Larry Brown. Assembling that team. That team was nasty.

Yeah, it was. You got a lot of beef though with Team USA. No, no, no Yeah, it was. You got a lot of beef, though, with Team USA. No, no, no, no. I ain't got no beef. It's just I watched 92 and 96. Yeah. And then 2000.

2000 showed us what 2004 was going to be. That 2000 team, they had some suspect players on there, too. They had. Let me pull it up. That's where we got Google. They had Tim Hardaway, right, who was damn near... You know, he was damn near Bo Jingles at that time. He was Bambi Legs, you know.

You had Vin Baker, right? He should have been on the 96 team. And, you know, I think, you know... They had Allen Houston. That shaking big alcohol fucked him up a little bit, but they put him on the team anyway. I'm going to read the roster. They put him on the team anyway.

Read the roster with no judgment. Sharif Abdul-Rahim, Ray Allen, but they put him on the team anyway. I'm gonna read the roster. They put him on the team anyway. Read the roster with no judgment. Sharif Abdul-Rahim, Ray Allen, Vin Baker, Vince Carter, KG, Timmy, Allen Houston, J-Kid, Antonio McDyess, Alonzo Mourning, Gary Payton, Steve Smith. They wasn't that bad. Steve Smith. I mean, it was most of those guys were one. That's a nasty team. That's a nasty team.

Yeah, most of those guys was one-year All-Stars. That was a nasty team. KG Vincent 2000 when he jumped over but you've over to do Gp. No, is that longer? Damn? We all this shit. Yeah, we years ago But I said you got Steve Smith right do right you have you come on You got to name all the players on the team that So got some I hear you what you say you been saying that team was watered down

But let's talk about the league now. Jabari Parker, falling in Spain right now, hasn't played in the league since January 2022, has some interesting perspective on the current state of the NBA during an interview with Eurohoops. Jabari said the following, I just want to be part of something legitimate. I want to be part of every game matters.

Sadly, the NBA is a business, and there are 10 to 12 teams that try to win every game, and the other half try to get a draft pick. Where does that leave good players? You either have to be super good or bad to lose games. It's no excuse to see DeMarcus Cousins, Dwight Howard, or John Wall, guys who are potentially going to the Hall of Fame. Seeing those guys not have a job, we are seeing the league getting watered down, unfortunately.

It's a lot of things that are out of our control. So, Gary, I'll start with you. Jabari Parker is saying the NBA getting watered down, unfortunately. It's a lot of things that are out of our control. So, Gil, I'll start with you. Jabari Parker's saying the NBA is watered down. Facts or cap? Cap. The reason it is is that's every generation, right? If every generation, it seems like, because of the way the game is changing,

the old mentality, we throw the shots at the new school, right? From the 80s, the 90s, 80s was complaining about the 90s, 90s was complaining about the 2000s, 2000s was complaining about 2010. That's just the way it is. No one likes the progression of anything. You just like your era and your era alone. For sure. But just to play devil's advocate here,

you said that only five teams are actually interested in winning the championship. Yeah, only five. So what does that mean for the rest of those squads? Because he's saying 10 to 12 potentially. No, 10 to 12. He said 10 to 12 want to win. Yeah. Right?

But five are actually trying to build to win the championship. The other seven, right, they're trying to make the playoff. You know, teams want to win the championship. The other seven, they're trying to make the playoffs. Teams want to make the playoffs. And then from the rest, if they're in markets that I don't need to spend money, which we can say the Clippers before Bomber came in, that they didn't need to put a winning formula in. I don't even know how that was considered

a basketball team where every draft pick I got, no matter how good they were, I let them go to free agency, right? You ball in all NBA, go. Because I can keep my roster at 3 million, 4 million. So the most I'm spending is a rookie salary. I'm never paying nobody big because when I was a free agent, there was a threat out on Serling to say, you have to pay someone this summer. So that was the first time that he had to say, you have to pay someone this summer. So that was the first time that he had to, because he was going to let all of his free agents go,

and it was like six players. He was like, I don't want them. So they was like, no, you got to spend money. So every era is going to say that it's getting watered down. So Donald Sterling's a hoe, but a savvy businessman. So look, I call cap. You say cap as well? No, I'll call cap on that. Oh, cap. So you

cap his cap. I'm capping his cap. Okay. You know why? We're not surprised. It's because the elephant in the room is saying that the mid-level exception when I was in the league was pushed out. And that's given that mid-level

guy that would be Dwight, would be DeMarcus, would be John Wall, an opportunity to stay in the league, not get big time money, but stay on the team that helps those 10 to 12 teams expand to 15 to 20 teams and giving the league a more brighter opportunity to compete at a higher level with good players. Now, those players were also forced out of the league because they want to save money. And a lot of people don't understand that there was a memorandum sent around the league that the cap was going to drop and the taxes were going to go up, which prompted owners to stay away from mid-level guys because they were going to have to pay double.

And when that happened, I remember Corey McGeady being in the league and certain other guys that were expecting certain types of money, which when I was looking at it, like if I got to that year, seven, eight, I could get mid-level. If I don't get my max where I'm trying to get a max deal, 65 was the max then. I'm like, I don't get 65. I last in the league a couple more years, I can get 25, 20, you know what I'm saying, and still hang around. But they pushed that out.

So now it was just. What year was this? This was 2009. It was 2009. And they did it in 2011. That was the collective bargaining. You just called cap on me, right? I was just saying because you like that word.

Oh. But you disagree with me. I don't disagree with you. I just want to add a point to it. Oh, okay. Because you say you disagree with me. I don't disagree with you. I'm just want to add a point to it. Oh, OK. Because you say you disagree with me, but saying the same thing that I said every. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I do that a lot.

Just, you know, you get you to sweat a little bit. So let's get you to sweat a little bit. You see how I'll be trolling. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah. So. So, no, I think all the players know what I'm saying. So, yeah. So, no, I think all the players know what I'm saying. I think Jabari is the one that's really vocalizing it at the top of the top because he's over there now and he sees that there are good players

that should be playing that's not playing. And he feels like it's watered down because we're sitting there watching bad basketball and it's like, yo, we could be playing better basketball if we just let these guys come in. Let them do one-year deals. Give them the minimum. So you're saying guys like Dwight Boogie, even Isaiah Thomas, who we got the chance to hang out with at the Zeke Inn.

Because I'm looking like, yo, these dudes could be valuable presents. And you're paying them Westbrook bread now. Westbrook was signed with a two-year, eight-mil, whatever that was. And Matt Barnes had something the other day. And I hate when people say it respectfully, and it's super disrespectful, but I think the Celtics brought Winyah Gabriel in. He's like, how come you can't give that to a guy like Dwight or whatever? I disagree with both of y'all.

Oh, shit. Cap in the cap. Oh, yeah, because you agree with me, so you have to disagree. No, I feel like basketball has just been watered down since Sonny Vaccaro left AAU. So that's where the teaching has stopped. I mean, teaching and just the structure of it, like the competition of it. Like a lot of guys don't know how to play basketball. Like, you know what I'm saying?

So that's why it's watered down is because now when guys get in the league three or four years or their rookie year, you got to teach them how to play basketball. It's like they haven't been taught how to play basketball. AAU is just a circus now. There's no more, like when Sonny was in, it was like, you know, ABCD camp, you know what I'm saying? You knew the big time Vegas, like, you know, high school games was more important to go to than NBA games. Like, I don't know when the last time, you know, there was a big time high school basketball game that everybody was excited to go to than NBA games. I don't know when the last time there was a big-time high school basketball game that everybody was excited to go to, AAU included.

All these guys are just playing together now. There's no more competition, and nobody's teaching. So I think the game has been watered down since Sonny Baccaro left. So let's talk the high school side of it. Do you feel like social media, the shoe companies,

because back in the day, you go to these tournaments, Nike teams would play Adidas teams, but now everything is so segregated. So Nike's got its league, Unarmour's got its league, Adidas got its league. So you're not getting that crop of talent where the highest level dudes are playing against each other

because you're spreading that out amongst these different shoe entities. Yeah, and the money. I mean, a lot of it got to do with me, too, getting paid, you know, going to Europe. You know, now kids are getting paid in high school. Mikey Williams got like $3 million in high school. Like, just think about that. If I was the number one player in the country getting $3 million back then, you know, would I still be hungry?

Would I still want to learn? Would I still want to have competition? Like, my AU days, I had to play against O.J. Mel. You know, Derrick Rose was sponsored by Nike. They came over to Reebok and played at ABCD camp and played in you know, the big-time tournament So I just like I don't see that like I don't I don't see the competition age brackets now Yeah, when we played if he was a freshman, I played 17 and under yeah If you that's if you as a freshman, there was only high school team. There was no 14 you

Gold black silver platinum 15 but you know I mean so like someone like you know the Cooper flags this year I'm a you know that instead of playing you know you are the best player so why are you playing 16 you and not 17 yeah right that wasn't allowed back then so even if he was a freshman the fact that you're on this team you didn't have to play everybody know you was cold. When they looking on the list, oh shit, a freshman? Because that list would be

senior, going into their senior years, really high level juniors, right? To make that team as a freshman, you had to be cold. Because there's only so many spots, right? So if I went out for an LA team and didn't make it, I had to wait a whole year.

Not my daddy going, my mom and dad, we're going to start our own AAU program. That's not like there's too many AAU teams in it, and you're playing every week. Like, if you beat me this week, I don't see you to next month or next tournament. So I got to eat that loss. Bob Gibbons. Bob Gibbons. I wouldn't see you to Bob Gibbons. I lose to you today. I play you next week. So this loss don't even matter to me. Bob Gibbons. I wouldn't see you until Bob Gibbons. I lose to you today.

I play you next week. So this loss don't even matter to me. Right, right. Like, I see you next week. We're going to try to win. Then we're going to, I'm going to add on and jump on to this team. You couldn't jump team to team. There was no jumping team to team back then because every team, like, every team had those dudes on it.

Yeah. Every team had those dudes on it and make the the Amari came off the bench on his team Jock Diop Came off the bench on their au team and both of them was lottery picks Atlanta So that's how thick that and they came out of high school. That's how thick au teams were were to all To lottery picks was bench players So just imagine we had had our AAU team, which was a small market,

and we trying to get into those big tournaments. We thinking we don't want our little state come in. It's Atlanta Celtics, Team Florida, D.C. Assault. You like, who the fuck is these niggas? And you like, they are on the same team How we gonna beat them like your SCA squad? Killer I'm just saying like it was probably when he playing that much. Yeah, but nowadays those dudes

I'm gonna go jump ship to this other team Yeah, like my after my rookie after rookie year after my freshman year at Dominguez, you know, I'm playing Varsity so I go right into my varsity year playing freshman, go right into playing AAU with Chase Budinger, Taj Gibson, Kevin Love, and Taylor King. So it's like I'm not playing 15 or 16. I'm playing 17s, and that happened the whole way. That's why I'd be like, like you just said,

why are these kids playing 16, 15 years old? Fucking smoke. If I'm on a varsity team as a freshman, that means I'm playing 17. That means I'm good enough to play 17 or under. How are you playing varsity and then go to your age group? Because these kids don't understand. What happens is if you're playing 17, playing these guys around the country, and then you drop down for AAU, right?

That hurts you that summer. No development, because whatever you are good at, you're just going to keep doing it. You're not going to develop because you wasted a summer, versus you played here, and then you go, and then I got to play you and you at the one and the two. And then another one of you is coming off the bench. Well, when I drop down and play my age,

I'm not playing against anybody. most of those guys most of those guys play JV. Yeah, right Most of those guys play JV, but they want to win so bad Like I've never seen it. I've never seen a coach a college coach come to a kiss Hey, how many a you games you won this year? Fuck about your AAU program. Are you good or not? I'm not. How many AAU championships did you win?

Oh, y'all did good. Let me go ahead and put you. No one gives a shit. Let's talk about what the real shit is about that whole scenario. Cooper's going down to 16s to create highlights. You creating a highlight reel against those kids you know can't guard you. So all the highlights

we seeing, it ain't against the top guys. You creating a... He played 16 and under this summer. You creating a highlight reel on guys you know you can get shit off on

and then you play up, they don't show the highlights of those because there ain't no highlights. But here, this is the, like, if I would've talked to him,

I was like, listen, if you are number one and you are that dude, play adult league. Go to the true league. Yeah. Go to the, go play. As a freshman, as a sophomore, yes. Go to pro-ams.

The reason is you don't know your flaws because everybody, you're bigger than everybody. You're taller than everybody, you're taller than everybody, so the things you're doing, you don't know you have to improve until it's too late. When you try to throw it off the backboard, or you're trying to drive in a lane, and then there's six 11, six 10, seven foot back there, and now you have to try to adjust your game in real time. Right, you should go to, you should have been playing

in an adult league to test what you can do and what you can't do, right? But if you're the biggest dude on the court throwing it and it looks like baby basketball to you, it's because it is baby basketball compared to you, right? Like, you really have to get out of the swimming pool, jump in the ocean and learn. Go up to

UCLA. Yeah, you just go. Play pro-am just to see what you're going up against But we did that though I think that that's what changes the way we look at the game and the way the game is now That's because we have structure and we played a structure. We played a girl was in there. It was structure You knew okay. I had to go to Bob Gibbons. I have to go to this tournament Whatever to make me downs or you know, and we had to all right the best competition gonna be here

Gotta go get worse always around it so it never fell off yeah it falls off now because it's just like it's all highlights it seems like when you see them you be like every kid in the gym now every kid in the gym has their own videographer and they're just putting the highlights together and it's like if i'm a college coach i don't give a fuck about those highlights i want to see the low light i want to see how you respond to adversity how you guard the dudes that are at your level or higher ranked dudes. Like how you perform in those cases. What do you do when you have a bad game?

How do you respond to that? Like anybody can put a highlight clip together as we've seen in recent years. And for me, it's like I always got to count how many games they needed to use in order to get the, if it's 25 games to get that two minute highlight reel, then shit. Right. That's problematic. But they're doing that with everything social media. They're doing that with music.

They're doing that with your little comedy, comedy sketches. It's like we don't know how funny you really are because you're putting together five-second clips of a joke, right? And then you look at music. It's like you didn't write none of that. You just stole somebody else's rhymes and made a video of it. So basketball has become the social media equivalent of just fast-paced. What is the attention span of the audience?

How is they getting it? Get what I'm saying before we got on air. It's 30 seconds. People are trying to get more of what we can expect from you, but you're only giving us a little bit, so we can only judge you on that. It's 30 seconds. So that highlight is going to be the only thing that we can say, oh, well, he dunked over three people in this 30-second highlight.

He must be cold. Exactly. Or he got 500,000 followers, so he must be cold. So when you guys look at it, if you could fix the current state of basketball culture, tell me what needs to be fixed in basketball culture which which part of like if we start at the bottom level yeah bottom work our way up to all the schools that I guess back east that don't have shot clock to put shot clocks in yeah right that that that

puts you at a disadvantage because you're not used to like knowing what two-for-one is understanding time and clock management. You know, you get up, you know, there was a score, what was it, 2-0, right? Because you scored and then next time you get the ball, you're just going to hold the ball the whole game and now you got a bunch of dribblers and they don't know how to play basketball because they don't have to, right?

So you put a shot clock in it and the referees need to update their palate on understanding what the new rules are and what rules are Get rid of the bracket plays like I know that in and saying that that's millions and millions of dollars because whoever From the East Coast probably came to the to the West and brung in this this Mom-and-pop style where everyone has a chance to be AAU. Like some of you guys and some of you teams are Park League teams.

Yeah. Right? No, no, facts. Right? It's like some of you guys don't even belong in what AAU was. Yeah, you're not coming back. AAU was the elite of the elite.

They need that interest for you. Like if I can't make it this year, that means I'm training all year to try to make that same team. AAU was so good that, where's Harden from? He's from here. No, where? What part of Cali?

He's from Compton, I think. He's from Compton. Yeah. He didn't make his Compton team. He had to come to the Valley team and play with the Pumps. Mm-hmm. Right? He didn't make, whatever team they were trying out for AAU, he had to come here to make this team.

Yeah. Right? Same with Artesia. Yeah, same thing with a clay whatever team clay was trying to make He ended up on a valley team Yeah, that's how great it was when you try it out for a team and you didn't make it you got to go go for Another tryout somewhere else. Yeah, if you didn't make no a you team, right? You spent all year working on your game now. I can just I don't play five minutes either. I go create my own team So now you have you have shit 10 20 teams created every weekend Slamming J. You can make some J and go to a RC come a go to EJ be whatever

Trials is coming and you was really trying to go out there and try out. I think another thing I would change I mean, well something I want to do I want to do. I want to get back into the Park and Rec League from ages 6 to 12 for AAU. Like, I want to, like,

help, like, develop, like, you know, the skill set for kids. Get them ready. You know, I think that's how I grew up, you know, that Park and Rec,

you know, just go play. Boys and Girls Club. And, you know, just get them, just having fun. I think that's the main thing, just having fun before they get to that 13.

After 13, 14, you know, y'all parents can go ahead and go. But that shit starts now at like 7. You know what I'm saying? No, they got AAU teams already. Yeah, AAU. But I want to bring it back. Park League gone. Yeah, but you can bring it back.

When I was like, if you play in the Park League now. They laughing at you. If you in Park League now, bro, you. It depends. I mean, it depends. Because everybody not ready. Yeah, but it's development. Like you said, it's development.... Huh? It depends. I mean, it depends. Everybody not... Because everybody not ready. Yeah, but it's development.

Like you said, it's development. You got to develop them. I can start it. I wish somebody would laugh. The problem is it costs too much to be at AAU. You got to park in, you know, like... $20. No, $20 for parking on Saturday and $20 on Sunday.

Yep. You got to pay the $20 to get your ticket on Saturday and $20 on Sunday. Yup. You gotta pay the $20 to get your ticket on Saturday and... So you spending 80 to $120 every weekend to see your sorry ass son sit on the bench and that's what makes them like create their own team. Like if I'm gonna spend $120 every weekend, my little sorry ass son gonna play. But that's the same as the soccer, you know soccer mom go see they soccer. Sorry. He no good at soccer, but he liked it But they be doing it at these spots where there's no street parking so they force you to park not the rally All right, but if I do it at Raleigh Park bump it back in the day was like Cal State Dominguez or Carson

How are they? I'm pulling into the high school. I don't have to worry about it was like Cal State Dominguez or Carson High or whatever. It was big. It was big. I'm just pulling into the high school. I don't have to worry about pay. Now it's like at these facilities, it's like $20. Like, nigga, please, I'm parking right here. $20 to park is crazy.

Two hours? Yeah. You can be there all game though. You can be there, yeah, but two games. Like two games. Think about that. From 9 to 11. $20 and then another five.

I want to leave my car in an Uber and we're like, nah, that's going to cost much too. Then a snack. You got to, you know. I would change coaching. Coaching aspect. Accountability. Teaching them how to, you know, run plays. Execution.

Playing together. Moving without the ball. Playing defense. Talking on defense. Running a fast break. These are all the things that I feel like when we became college players, we knew how to adapt to the game and not get yelled at by our coaches, not get put in the doghouse because there was a fundamental understanding of how to play the game.

And if your coach in high school taught you that, he prepared you. If your AAU coach was any good, he had y'all on a string knowing that hey when you go to your high school team or even your middle school team these are the things you need to learn and that was one thing i took from my aau coach cliff knight and he used to play in the league and he used to tell me one specific thing as a slasher start on one side of the court you on on the left wing, you got to finish the ball on the right side of the rim. And it's going to get you to understand that the shot blocker got to come through the rim to block your shot. And it's a better way and an easier way to

lay the ball up. But you got to get into the paint. Trev always talk about touch paint. If you're not touching paint, you're not an effective slasher or effective offensive player. But if you don't know that, if you're not being effective slasher or effective offensive player. But if you don't know that, if you're not being taught that specific fundamental, you're going to be behind by the time you get to college because now they expect you to know that. Oh, you don't even know how to get in the lane. I think something we've talked about before,

but what goes into that is the skill development. A lot of it is trash can work. I'm going to say I gave the trash can buckets doing shit that's not realistic for games. So again, these kids get the trash can highlights. They be putting on IG and shit. I don't blame the trainers. I blame the coach. When he talks about

coaching, you got to think about the styles of AAU. And this is why I don't think no one appreciated what Kobe was doing. That's one because his team was trash. What AAU is now is some of those high-level teams, they don't even practice, right? They don't practice. They just come together and play games.

Well, that means that coach is robbing y'all. That's robbery right there. You're not practicing. So that means if you're in middle school, where is your development at? You're playing with your team, and then you come in here here and then y'all go and try to outrun people. Kobe's team, they practice every single day. Every single day.

He treated it like an actual team. AAU team. So that means like Zach Randolph's daughter played on that team, right? Every single day after school, get out at 3 their practice at 7 Do her homework then she had to drive all the way from here all the way to Orange County To Orange County to practice because if you didn't practice you don't play. Mm-hmm She was the best player on the team So the best player on the team came off the bench because she couldn't make five days a week practice.

Right. Right? So that was the standard. You have to practice every day to start. So she already knew if I don't practice every single day I'm not going to start. Right? But it's every day I'm training you every single day. If I'm paying money for this program, you're going to teach me every day. You're just collecting the check and then we come to the game, you know, and then go out there and just run up and down, right? Like as a coach, you have to, you, you supposed to take pride in your, your, your, your, uh, uh, your team, your team, your program. I'm going to say we practice at SEA. Well, Pat, you you know Pat Barrett. He had us

He's opposed to us, you know, he had Ostrom view high school every weekend practicing against guys like Aaron to follow Jordan farmer Yeah, like we was Marcus Williams that went to UConn. So it's like that's what I'm going up against every day on the weekends outside Coaches today are so lazy. All they want to do is just like oh i just want you on my team i want you i want you get all the good players i just get all the good players and just go go play i'll see y'all next weekend that's why we went 38 no let's pray for the state of american basketball before we move on to the next segment gil we we did a poll. Who has the best Team USA starting five? And as I predicted, you had 59%. Brandy had 23%. Rashad had 17%.

I said I fucked with the chat. I already told y'all I fucked with y'all. Y'all still, y'all want them. They don't want that. I'm just telling you. They don't want that team again. You love the chat. They don't love you back.

What was your team? Mine was... Steph. Steph. Tatum. No, sorry. Tatum. Tatum was the two. Steph, Tatum, KD, Braun, and Embiid. I didn't have Tatum. Me neither.

I had it coming off. But y'all had, who had KD coming off the bench? I did. Okay. Let's talk a little bit. I should have got a little higher. Damn. What's up?

They don't fuck with Kyrie? I was trying to give KD, AD some love. Like damn. Anybody get the A from the chat. I'm it got a little higher damn. What's up? They don't fuck with Kyrie trying to give a decent love like From the chat So I guess I'm like I'm off a D then you know like Booker like Booker's like Booker's gonna be on that team So it's like so I'm saying who coming off the bench though. Let's name that five Who come up that bill curve? Mitchell name Kyrie job ain't no Who come up that best? Booker. Mitchell. Dame.

Kyrie. Ja. Man, no. No. Donovan. And I don't know that team. No. No.

Not even Trey Young. No. That's what I'm saying, because you only get three guards. So those three guards will probably be. I don't think they book that much better than Donovan Mitchell. That means there's going to be. What? I don't think D. Book that much better than Donovan Mitchell. I'm saying it's going to be... What? I don't think...

A shooting guard? I don't think Booker's that much better than Donovan Mitchell. Not even the same planet. No, no, no. I don't think he's that much better. Yeah, not in the same planet. And they both had 70, bro. What you...

One is what? 6'1", 6'2"? Who? Book is 6'4". With shoes, 6'6". One is 6'2". I like Donovan Mitchell, though. I like Don, but I think Donovan Mitchell is a second option.

He's Lil D-Wade, man. I'm rolling with that. I think Donovan Mitchell is a second option. But who else? You're not going to put Trey Young in there and leave Dame out? No, that's what I'm saying. You got Jimmy coming off the bench. Jalen Brown?

Jalen Brown probably coming off the bench if he tries to make that game. It's just a bunch of guards though you got a no you gonna have ad You're gonna have BAM And I'm sorry. I'm sorry. This is this is This is uh, this is a you peek. I mean, this is you know, it's they gonna have people like Austin Reeves. Yeah, all three's my make it Anthony Edwards Austin Reeves. Yeah, Austin Reeves might make it. I say that very tenderly.

Anthony Edwards. Yeah. Now, he might. I guess. Anthony Edwards might make it, but he'll probably be the LeBron in 2004. He might be the only guy from that World Cup squad that actually. That's what I'm saying. Somebody from that World Cup squad is making it. It'll be Anthony Edwards.

That's what I'm saying. He's the only holdover. Anthony maybe. You already see who's committing. Shit about to get real, but let's talk about. you know, Kawhi we all know like I mean We got some We say D book like he's like the number one like he not over PG to me book ain't better than PG to me It's hard to judge PG

Because he's been out But Book is very good Book is very good He's been out a lot Book is very good PG's a three Book is very good But there's a lot of good guards

Out there that's like Right there So you got the twos You got the And then you got the three fours So PG Jimmy

All of them are in the same category You're saying that's the three They'll have the threes And the Jalen Browns And shit like that Yeah That's a lot That's, all of them are in the same category. You're saying that's the three? They'll add the threes and the Jaylen Browns and shit like that. Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot of them. Them twos is Devin Booker up there. It's Devin Booker, Ant-Man, basically.

It's Devin Booker, Ant-Man, and Donovan Mitchell's probably third on that list. So basically what I'm grabbing from y'all is there's going to be some hurt feelings this summer. No, no, no. There's going to be some hurt feelings on the bench too. Mm-hmm. You got to think about it, it's only so much time. You could low-key put Bradley Beal at the two. Even though he's going one to one, he's still a natural two.

That's what I'm saying, when you look back at that 96 team, you're talking about Hakeem and Shaq who averaged 30 and 12, play six minutes. Yeah. It's going to be some names that are going to be like... But that's one of the things is I think this was... I think they probably,

when you think about it, the stars was getting mad that they wasn't playing. So they got real bench players that's just happy to be there. And I think that's what ended up happening. Like, you should be happy

to be part of this team versus someone who's... I'm the second best sinner in The NBA and I'm coming off the bench Brandon Ingram looking at Austin Reeves like Y'all got me looking like I'm trash out here cuz I'm coming off the bench And I'm playing behind him It's already pissing me off and I make a mistake or two you pulling me out like we in college So you some bullshit.

Right, and you know what else that says? That says that's why your team is the way it is. In New Orleans? Yeah, that's why the team is the way it is. Because he don't play like AR? No, because you can't adapt. You don't need to. You just start a team. No, no, no, listen. But when it's time to win and it's time for something that we're playing for all together,

everybody has to adapt. So you can't adapt. So that's why New Orleans is where it's at is that coaching though no that's no no oh it's not you got to relate you got to relay the message to me on what you want me to adapt to usa what am i usa usa no no no happy to be here because if you call me and you tell me This is what we gonna do with you and I get out there and we not doing that And you change it up on me because you feel like you don't have to tell me just like how Steve Kerr told Ant-Man You gonna come off the bench like uh D Wade What but the game Ant-Man wasn't trying to hear that so he had to change that up because Ant-Man's like yo I know for you know Kobe Bryant out here. No, no, no. He had to change it up because the way the game played.

They were losing. They were losing. And Ant-Man came in and did his thing. Because Steve Kerr tried to make a certain statement about his coaching and he wanted to put these guys in and he had to change it because it didn't work with Ant-Man coming off the bench. When you're going into the situation, you're going and try it. Practicing every single day day going in a game you

adapt naturally like i didn't play defense right everyone said when i i didn't play defense if you ask any of those players that i tried out with i was a defensive player on that team i'm the one taking the i don't know how many charges i took in the nba there i was in practice i took probably 12 charges right because i had to do something else to get on the floor, right? And that's just the way it is, right? When you go there, like, you have to adapt because it's an automatic pecking order. The best thing you can do is play defense. To me, on that team, the FIBA team, the minutes per game for, like, Brandon Ingram.

This is what my point is. If he can't adapt i can't play you i understand that i understand that but this is my point is if we all not playing a certain amount of minutes where i can adapt allow me to adapt because i'm only playing 12 minutes we don't have time to we don't yeah we do we do because other players are playing more minutes they're playing better because they allow to adapt so they're playing better. Because they are allowed to adapt. They are being allowed to adapt to a game where if I'm only playing four minutes at a time,

I ain't even touched the ball enough to even make an impact. Go play your four. Go play your four. Why can't you play your four? Play your four. You do that at your ability. Okay, now I can give you six. You do that ability. Okay, now I can give you six. You do that with your ability, now I can give you eight.

But if you go in there and I give you four, and you're like, oh, man, fuck this four. I'm not giving you nothing. You're done. Y'all know what I'm talking about. Y'all know what I'm talking about. Brandon, if you're on my AAU team, and we got a super team,

and you know you should be playing, and you trying to adapt, but you ain't got enough minutes to adapt. Now you saw for me. It's not for me. I understand that. But you was brought here for it to be for you. And now you found out in the middle of it. This ain't for me. Now you look bad already. But you just said it's a super team. So that means it's probably another nigga that's number one. Right. I'm probably number one in my position. K-Love is number one, right?

Ronaldo Sidney is number one in his position, right? We all adapt. Yeah, but if you're Brandon Ingram looking at this World Cup, that's not no super team. It ain't no super team. I should be starting. I should be doing what I'm doing because I'm Brandon Ingram and my numbers speak for what I can do. So let me do what I can do, and if I'm not doing it, now you push me to the side. Okay, but maybe him doing what he can do, it won't bring us back.

What can he do? Play defense, slash, right front floor, run it. You want the ball so you can sit here and do that? No, I don't think that was it. I think he just wanted to be considered as one of the best players on the team as he was. I did too. They didn't give you the opportunity.

I didn't, but I already went into, I was, there was only three of us that was two-time all NBA players, two-time all All-Stars. Me, Dwayne, and LeBron. Right? Yeah. I already knew Melo was in front of me. Yep. I already knew Dwight was in front of me yep i already knew the white was in front of me

right that was no there was no question in that right all i'm thinking okay maybe i knew chris paul was the starting point guard like chris paul is not even on my level as a player yet but i knew he was the starting point guard because it fit better but you know i'm gonna be like a seven i was gonna be like a seven eight man but you did not know that they were considered cutting your ass before you even thought about sitting down and relaxing. Yeah, but what I'm saying is I didn't complain about the playing time, though. I'm in there. If you look at the game we're playing, it's not Brazil.

Is it Brazil? Who's the best player in Brazil? Where's Barbosa from? Thiago Splitter. No, no, watch that game. I got in the game because Dwayne Wade got elbowed and had to come out, right? It's a close game. I come in, deed him up, right?

Deed him up, stole the ball, hit a jumper, got the offensive rebound, passed it out to get another jumper, subbed out of the game. Good shit, Gil. I know. That's all I do, right? I'm subbing. That's out of the game. Good shit, Gil. I know. That's all I do. Right? I'm subbing. That's it.

Four minutes. Four minutes prime time. Like, I didn't. That was it. I know, but I get it. You adjust it to knowing that you didn't have to go beat Gilbert Arenas out there with this team. But the point being is, after doing that, feeling like, yo, I'm doing what I need to do to be a part of this team. And them coming to you and saying, look, we was going to think about getting rid of you anyway

because we want another type of energy for the team. But that's my ego being hurt because of I diminish my role. I'm here celebrating. I even came to you and said, hey, man, I pulled my groin. I don't want to hold a spot up for somebody else who's trying to make this team. So I'm coming in like I don't want to hold a spot up for someone else. So when you say, oh yeah,

you know, you was on the bubble anyway, that's what hurt. That I'm coming in saying, yeah, you know, me and my man's playing hard, so I might want to go home. So the fact that you're saying that, ah, we was going to cut you anyway, that's what hurt. Like, I'm coming in here like,

yo, this is some team shit. I want my mans to make this team just in case, you know what I mean? Right, right, right. That was my, you know, so it was more ego of you saying I'm on a bubble and I'm trying to be humble for you.

But if Brandon is saying to the coaching staff, what more can I do to help this team win? Shut the fuck up, sit down, and celebrate and wave your red, white, and blue flag. And here's my, I didn't come here for that. I come here to help this team win shut the fuck up sit down and celebrate and wave your your red white and blue now And then and now and here's my I didn't come here for that And I come here to help the team So if I came here to you want me to be a cheerleader

Right and that's all I need to be there for this team until we need you right and you never call my number to need Me you wasting my time Okay, I mean I'm a part of but I'm a part of something though. You're a part of a loss. Like, you're not a part of the USA team. You're a part of a loss. You went home with no medals. Where the adjustment could have happened if you played B.I. a little bit more.

You might have won bronze. You might have won bronze if you played him a little bit more. Now we don't know that because you made a mistake and played a guy over a guy that could have helped you win. This is a real story. This is a true story. Bubble Championship. The series before that, who was the most important player

on that court, defensively? The series between the Lakers? The Lakers and Denver. Dwight Howard. I already did my homework for all of that, too. Dwight Howard was the most important player in that series for the Lakers. Yeah. Right?

Yeah. What he did with Joker got them to the next level. Yes. When that series started, the next series, they told Dwight, we're not going to play you. Yep. I remember that. Right? Dwight hit me. I was like, like man how should I feel about it I was like

you won you you did you got us here right like if they don't play you no minutes that's that has nothing to do with you you did everything you when they needed you you delivered yes this, they just don't need you. Right. Right? Just like whoever they're putting in now, they didn't need them last series. Yeah. Right?

And that's the way you take it. You go out there, you celebrate because your championship, your championship ring was won that series. I agree. So it's someone else's time to win their championship ring. So there's nothing, just go out there, celebrate, and enjoy. That's the same thing with the USA team. Maybe that game might have been. But maybe it would have been another game to where.

But his mindset's already gone. Mindset is already gone. Because he knows what he can bring to the table. And they're not utilizing him. And that's why the Lakers haven't won a championship since. No, no, no. Because they don't have Dwight Howard. But they did. he was the game changer

Dwight Howard Anthony Davis and Ray John Rondo won them that championship But with with JR Smith and Avery Bradley they had a stacked team, but Dwight Howard was the game I'm not thinking about the next series who bowled out Rondo yes, it was a different strategy As as as Hooper's man like sometimes you know We get put into situations With no expectations, right? We have to find our way right right

We have to find our way and sometimes I think some I think We we feel we look at players and I'm better than you, I'm better than you, I'm better than you, I should get more time. And you can't do it like that because a structure and how the game is supposed to be played might not need your expertise. That's what I said. When we have Chris Paul, right? Like, you know, status-wise, I'm in front of him. Mm-hmm. That is wise. I'm in front of mellow, but mellows He's the face. He's one of the faces of the movement. This is a real point guard. Yes, sir Right, this is a real point guard. This is what they need. I'm more of a hybrid coming off the bench, right? I even know that um

Who else is who else is the backup? Darren? Nah, Kirk Heinrich. Yep. Right, so I already can see how a team's supposed to be. So me, I'm like, all right, I might be, you know, just going there, change the pace a little bit. Me, Joe Johnson.

So, you know, I mean, I can just structure the team on how I would structure it, right? So it was easier for me to adapt mentally and not fall into the negativity of like man Why am I here doing all that because all body language man? Everyone's watching everything but the difference is what if you guys lose We reevaluate that whole strategy. Yeah, right So with this FIBA team bi not playingI. not playing, I'm reevaluating what the fuck the coach did because it didn't work.

It ain't about him reevaluating. That's not his loss. I know it's not his loss. I'm just saying, like, the reevaluation of the coach... The reevaluation...

The reiteration of my point is the coach did not see the value of a player like B.I. when he wanted to bring his element to the game and it did not work them doing it the opposite way. But now think about that.

Think about the attitude on the behavior he's bringing into a locker room when he thinks he should be giving it. 100%. He don't got no vet checking him, though. You know that. He needs somebody to check him like, yo, B.I., listen, let them do this.

Let it pan out. You going to win, like with the Dwight shit. He called you for real comfort. Yeah. Hey, bro, what should I do? Should I feel some type of way? You're like, nah, you won. You won.

So be I. It's really like sit back, young fella. Let them see that they needed you in certain points. And don't show your attitude. Don't show the body language. Man, that's what I said, man. It's just when you got them, you have to be able to judge. That's what makes us who we are, understanding schemes and adjusting to schemes. Even when you get traded, right?

When you get traded to teams, you're in a different role, and you have to adapt in real time, right? Understand how fast these plays are. I don't think people even think about shit like that, right? I'm in the playbook. You make a trade tomorrow. Whatever playbook they have, I'm supposed to learn it on the fly. Yeah. Right?

No one understands that concept. When we make trades, the trade happens in February, and that player goes to that team. He has to adapt to something that's been there four or five months. Yep. And no one considers any of that. Like, you have to, like, I have to understand the concept of, okay, I played against they playbooks, they like to do this, okay, this play, I know this signal, and then, like, coach will be like,

all right, which plays are you comfortable with? Or I know swing down and the up, and I know the defense, I know how you, right? Because I know that, I can play a little bit longer. Yep. Right? Understand in the fourth quarter, he can put me in because I know the basic concept of what they Because I know that I can play a little bit longer Yeah, right understand in the fourth quarter he could put me in because I know the basic concept of what they're doing and not being lost and People don't really understand that that's what we have to adjust to in real time Same thing with you know teams like this like sometimes we do have to just be happy to be a part of some shit

Now I can understand why I call these guys sorry, but these guys, the Carlos Buzas, Lamar, the Tayshaun Prince, they doing anything. They adjusting. Yeah, you need me going in. 13 seconds. He need to tie his shoes. Gotcha. Gotcha. Smiling. Smiling.

Ready to go. Now I get the concept when you think about it like that. Because some of us ain't rolling with that. No, you're right. You're right. I mean, it just works for every. So my bad on them sorry teams. But to your point, how hard is it for a star to not be thrust in that situation?

Like you're saying, you might only get three, four minutes. You got to be a star in your role. When you're used to playing 38, 40, 45 minutes in a game and be able to go produce and deliver i think that's like the distinguisher because a lot of guys maybe can't do that i think the hard part for us right is we know we can help and i think it hurts us to to to not call on us yes and i think that's the that's the thing that it really is. It's not that we are selfish the selfish part is I Want them use me like you use me goddammit? He's slow footed he's the two-foot jumper just I can get in there and make something happen

And I think that's the part that that really frustrated It ain't really about the playing time is that I see what we can you can use me I just use just call me coach all of them call me coach Not to be a hater say hey back Is there any relief when like you're on a squad and they end up getting smacked and you feel like oh Telling you that's I'm saying about me I Told you I'm a little bit more. Are you like me? You didn't use me and this is what happened

I fucking told you so another half that that happened That's that that that you know that player when you do some of me and he's scoring start talking shit to the coach Those are the players I do like to because they real mad I think the only thing about the USA though is like we all get the same thing though So that's why it's so important to like, you know, it's our only chance to get like get that go We all getting the same gold medal. We all getting the same thing. It's not just one trophy Right. I think the biggest picture of like the USA team was like you all getting the same thing Yeah, like, you know the treatment hope like all that is just you know

Angle I had a blast like that motherfucking to that day today Like I was to do that they mic'd up and I used to talk to the like the soldiers who was wounded so he can't See the game. So I'm I'm the funniest thing. I'm funniest thing going telling them what's going on the whole time You need had to put me in the game I was like, oh shit. I think I think I'm going in We got action boys You had to put me in the game. I was like, oh, shit, I think I'm going in. I think I'm going in. I think I'm going in. We got action, boys. We got action.

That was me. I was the personality of the rest of them. It was like everything I sacrificed, and you tell me I'm on the bubble kind of hurt. It was hurt. That hurt me, too. If they would have cut me, they would have cut me and not said that I would have been fine with it.

But the fact that you're on the bubble, I'm sorry. Be if they would have cut me and not said that I would have been fine with it But if I do you own the bubble and they had wait, okay Did you watch the games no, okay sleep when you woke up My head was a little bit better this team I will let's keep this thing moving. Let's talk about the Suns real quick. You were talking about that Team USA spot, like a point guard. We got some point guard issues going on in Phoenix. So this week we got our first look.

We don't know, Gil. Let me get to it. See, this is why I had to come at you earlier because you be doing this shit. You be breathing a little too hard. My bad. You be breathing too hard. Look at my concentration. Trying to look at my screen.

Let me get my two. I'm going to get the dark screen like they got on the plane. I've been seeing all the rich people. Not what your girlfriend have or dudes be trying to puss on you to be trying to look from the side. You can't see that glare. You like, you do that. Who you texting?

Nobody. What you doing? What you doing over there? So this week, we got our first look at the Suns' new big three at KDD booking Bradley Beal in uniform. Let's see it. Oh, cameras look good too.

I never realized how good my calves look on this show.D. D-Book and Bradley Beal in uniform. Let's see it. Oh, cameras look good, too. I never realized how good my calves look on this show. Damn. See, I'm going to flex it. Well, we got our first look at this crew. Bradley's big, man. Yeah, that's a big... I don't know if that's Photoshop or... No, because that looks like the crew pic.

And shout out to D-Book wearing the chucks. Hmm. I don't know if that's angles or whatever, because Bill don't look like he that monstrous. Or, you know, like, D-Book's supposed to be 6'5". Bill's supposed to be 6'5". Yeah, Book looks 6'3", bro. So who know?

You know. If I'm D-Book looking at that photo, somebody's going to need to get talked to. You got to make me look bigger in the picture. They being funny. Hey, I'm not even going to. No, I'm not even going to say nothing. This is Gil's Arena.

We already got packed up like three times this week. Let's do it. Nah, nah. Nah? Nah. Nah? I'm just saying. Nah.

I don't want to make it a... I don't want to make it a problem. I mean, you know. Dope. Go ahead. Cook, cook. Now you got me wondering, I don't want to make it a problem. I mean, you know No Now you got me wondering but I'm gonna use my better judgment. So it's not an active offseason The Landon bill filled out the roster with minimal bread with the big three that most of that salary cap added some depth with the DeAndre Aiden trade that brought in nerd Grayson Allen the serial leader to go along with that big three and they got ten players

The shot 35% or better from three last season on the squad. Oh, that's just great But what about the point guard previously said they're gonna have to point girl by committee We expect Bradley build up to handle a lot of that, but let's talk about crunch time Who will be the Suns point guard in crunch time? What do you mean point guard in crush time what do you mean point guard like who's it going through that there's no point what do you need a point guard for if you have ball handed they all can dribble the ball so who's gonna be the person there's no point guard this is not i mean we don't need that team don't need no john stockton and or um cp every johnson or c CP3 trying to control and make great plays.

They have go-to guys. Okay, so you're telling me that they don't need a point guard? Who was the point guard on the Bulls who ran the offense? So I guess the question is who they're going through. Oh, they're going through? I mean, all three are go-to players, right? Whoever's hot at that moment. They're going through Kevin Durant.

Yeah, I mean. Like Kevin Durant at the last... That I'm saying, like a point guard, you don't need nobody to sit there and, ah, you're going to dictate the plays. That's... This is... Has they all...

Have we always went through Kevin in the last crunch, in the crunch? No. All his years? No, for the most part, they went through... Last year, Booker, if Booker's going,

they're going to go through book and Golden State Every time I was going to Golden State they they went through Kevin. I think the last not really. No, no, that's cap They did it. It was not coming down. No, I mean that's one in a blue moon But for the most part is being everybody so what there's been everybody asked so bad that they need They didn't have those problems Brooklyn. What about Brooklyn? They didn't really Yeah, everything went through Katie Well, you don't go through like I said, it's a good problem to have

Cuz you know as you they can't focus on one player, right? You try to double Katie you got Booker and Beal you try to double Booker you got Katie and Beal So it's one of those problems that you would love to have and but let's say you now have that I got if I'm guarding Katie or I'm going in Booker right and you on the island You on island cuz I'll be damn if I go help you and yeah Yeah Now I'm all those sports. Why would you help? I mean, we'll see. I mean, they're role players now.

But it's... Buckner and Bradley. No, no, no. They're role players. I would have a... You're considered a role player now. I would rather have a superstar role player than a role player. I mean, we'll see, though.

We'll see if you can adapt to being that role player. Is that accurate, though, Gil? Would you rather have a superstar role player? I would rather have KD getting doubled, and then that option is Devin Booker or Bradley Beal taking that wide-open shot. So we know that people will probably say it's the Book team. Is KD supporting Cass better than what he had up in Golden State

with Steph and Klay? Okay. I'm asking. Supporting Cass? Yeah. Yeah, so that same pass that you Clay. Okay. I'm asking. Supporting cast? Yeah. Yeah, so that same pass that you made. Same pass you talk about. That same pass that you're making to Clay.

So when I'm coming down and I got to pass it to Curry or Clay? I can't wait for that. Thank you. No, no, no, I'm saying, so is his supporting class better than... His two stars? Yeah, right now.

He has no fucking chance of winning. What are you talking about? Your podcast is not even better than the two that you got to go up with. They won. Right. They don't have a KD on the book.

What's the name? What I'm saying is it's KD passing it to Curry and Klay. It's KD passing it to Booker and Bill. Right.

Are they better? Are they better than Clay? They right there? If they right there? If they below? If they're below? Come on. Who's better? That's tough. Okay, so yeah. Let's match it up. Okay, you got Curry versus Booker, right? We're gonna give that to Curry. Bill versus Clay. What? I mean, what? Clay ain't no Bill. Clay ain't scored like no Bradley Bill. He ain't never averaged 30.

Clay ain't got to. But because he had Curry the whole time. No, he not no Bill. No, he's not Bill. But I'm going to say if one group is 99, this group he has 96. Yeah. 95? Okay, that's 95.

Okay, we'll say it's 95. Okay, that's a big difference. But the difference is that Warriors team don't got KD. I'm just asking, is his support in Cass enough to win a championship? Yes. I don't think he has enough. Because he still got Curry and Clay technically at 95. But are y'all saying that this is KD's team? No. But I'm just saying just the player himself. I'm just saying just the player himself. Those big three, the big three, the big three is cool. His big three is cool, right?

But if you had Klay and Curry at 95, who's better than them still? They were still smacking the shit out of everybody So a 95 clay and curry was still smacked through the league, but they did yeah, they did Oh, well, he didn't have him last year. So I can't say I'm gonna go ask you. Are y'all saying this is Katie's team or is the D books to it don't matter You know, it don't matter who team it is. I like all that shit. That's ESPN tall From your standpoint, I don't care who team it is that locker room. It does matter. It does matter I don't need to run nothing. It does matter when the Lakers who was who team was a Kobe a Shaq

Say Shaq, I'm gonna tell, Kobe didn't listen to it. Right? It was Kobe's team, if you asked him. If Shaq was there, it was Shaq's team. Yeah, two of the best players on the team. But it don't matter. It does matter. It does matter.

As long as they're going out there whooping everybody ass, it don't matter. Who team was it when he was in Golden State? It don't matter. Nah. It don't matter. What matters is it did matter. It did. It did. That's all that matters. It did matter. Was it when when he was in Golden State it don't matter nah, nah, it don't matter It did matter It does matter it did matter view it did matter cuz it matter when Brian went to Miami It was just no that's no if it was ESPN talk making narratives on who team it is

It is trying to do that. They trying to just throw niggas against each other. No, it's not. It's they team. Draymond Green don't come to KD and say, man, we don't need you if it was KD's team. I'm finals MVP. I mean, I don't care.

It's your team. None of that matters. This is like when movie stars care who. It does matter. It's like Will Smith and Martin Lawrence and Bad Boys 1.

Right. When Martin Lawrence said, boys right bad boys the guy right? Yeah, when Martin Lawrence said hey, I need my name first I'm gonna fuck about that name first man. I'm getting 20 million a year, but what name what he wants first go first I it don't matter this is but we'll be moving. We'll knew it was here We in the same movie. I will. Fresh Prince. Fresh Prince. Independence Day. It doesn't matter whose name is saying who's the leader. It does.

Go out there and play that. But Fresh Prince or Martin are better show. Martin. Martin. Martin. Martin. So you tell you Martin Lawrence and I walk in there like, nigga, my shit better than yours.

You getting 10 million. No. No, you can't say that because you're talking about show, but you got Independence Day. But, but. Men in black. What would Independence Day. Men in black. Men in black. One, two, three, and revolution. I don't care about our network show.

You don't have to be the man. You can be the leader, and he leads the team in scoring. It don't matter. Just go out there and just play. Nah. Just go out there and play. Why do you care if it's your team? That's a cop-out. Give me the ball.

Like, we only discuss that when they come to him, and that's weak, because when it's Bron, niggas was on Bron's head. No, Petey was on Bron's head. Talk about it. Like, when it comes, the Suns versus whoever, it's going to say Kevin Durant and the Phoenix Suns. You know, I don't give a fuck who it says. So that's who team it is. That's what it's on. When it said go to state, it said

go to state Steph Curry and KD. So them losing in the playoffs last year, it's on KD, hey, hey. That's what it's on. When it said Golden State, it said Golden State, Steph Curry, and KD. So them losing in the playoffs last year, it's on KD? See, no. That's on them. They sucked as a team. You couldn't tell me my Golden State my second year. No, I'm just, no, I'm not saying about who the, I'm just saying it's his team. Golden State my second year, the franchise player was obviously Antoine Jamison.

It was Antoine Jamison's team. When? When he ain't going to stay. You couldn't tell me shit that it wasn't my team. The last five minutes, there's only one nigga who's shooting the ball at me. I'm making 300,000. None of that matters. My expertise kicked in last five minutes. It did matter. It did matter to you. It did matter to you. It did matter to you because when you didn't matter to you Yeah, you went to go when you went to Washington. Yeah, and when he came when he came to Washington who team is it? It was it was the same thing No, no, this is how it works I was the franchise guy the leaders of the team was

Antoine and Larry Hughes, but it was your team. I was the franchise. Your team. Your team. Your team. This is Gil with Arenas' team. Agent Zero. They not talking about nobody else. Who team it is in this book? Your team.

He's been there the longest. Yeah. What are we talking about? There you go. No, it's not. There you go. I agree. No, it's not.

Scoot over. I've already done this. I'm a champion. I've already done this. That's what's up. Have fun. I came over here to make it easy for you to win. Yeah, no, you came over here because you had no where else to go.

Who? No, we're not going to do that. Who? No, no, you the best man. No, you got places go. No, cuz you could stay. Okay, Katie. Yes. Nah, what you leaving for? I can't man. What you leaving for? Don't you leave if you say you do you this you that don't what you even fuck? Hey, man, stick that I sorry as Miami team you got man stick that a little weekends go to state team You got my don't throw that salt on my state My me I'm a bar team is good. We good. We know it's Jimmy. We know it's Jimmy good over there The Sun are you two sons this year? Huh? You're the sons this year. Did you say it both you said bus Lakers? No, but you said Dane you said Dane

Let's get there no way but there's no way that, you know, Dame can win a championship without the Bucs winning a championship. So I'm going to have to beat Bucs a little bit. But I'm rooting for Dame. But I'm rooting for Dame. I'm like him with the Lakers. He really just like LeBron. He really just like LeBron, yeah.

Every fucking day. Every day. I've made that very clear. I'm probably going to stay. If Milwaukee win it, you're just cheering for Dame. If Golden State win it, I'm just cheering for Steph. I don't care if Golden State win it. I just...

So you bucks with Curry? Yeah, I'm just Curry. I'm just Curry. But here's the team I didn't hear you guys mention. The Denver Nuggets. But let's talk about them a little bit. We haven't really talked about them. After Lakers players like A.D. and Austin Reeves...

Just like last year. They came out, they said they weren't feeling all the jaw jacket coming from the Nuggets, more specifically their head coach. So Michael Malone, aka the man who's proclaimed the Lakers daddy,

he didn't say it, but he didn't say, no, don't say that. He smiled. He rode with it after the sweep. So he addressed all the talk

coming from the Lakers side. If they're still worried about us, that's on them. This is a new season, new challenge, and it was a hell of a series against them. I know it was a 4-0 sweep, but all those games seemed like they went down to the wire, and as I said after that game four, we have tremendous respect for

that team. I have tremendous respect for Darvin Hamm as a coach and the job that he did, but yeah, I don't listen to any of that stuff. I don't know what they're saying. And if we're on their minds, then I guess that's on them. So Malone went on to say he doesn't think the Lakers' nuggets is a rivalry. He's not living on the past. He's just focused on the season. But based on the reaction last year, they were going hard on the Lakers. But when you sweep a team, are you winning the minimum amount of games required?

I mean, I got to go with Denver on this one in the Lakers, but when you sweep a team, are you winning the minimum amount of games required? I mean, I gotta go with Denver on this one in the sense of, to be honest, y'all was the weakest challenge we had, so why are y'all talking? You know what I mean? In reality, right? Y'all technically was the weakest group that we played against, so y'all shouldn't be saying shit.

You know, the Wolves have better of a understand Like, you know, that was our biggest challenge in a sense where that first one players are right, you know You know, we had to really like get up for that and they gave us more of a challenge They should be talking about Dan, you know, the Denver Nuggets this and this and this and then Phoenix, right? So Lakers you're in third place, you know talking about this even. Even Miami can say, yeah, that's our rival. We won a game. You know what I mean? Won eight games.

You know what I mean? It's one of those things where, as Lakers fans, we should really just shut the fuck up right now and wait until we match up in the playoffs. Even if you beat them in regular season, we shouldn't be bragging about that. There's just some shit you shouldn't be bragging about. Like Oregon beating Colorado. What the fuck are y'all laughing about and celebrating?

No one in America really thought y'all was going to lose that game. If you lost, it was embarrassing. But if you win by 30, that's how afraid you were of that? Come on, man. There's just some afraid you were of that? Like, come on, man. It's just some things you just should.

We're missing the point, though. Like, for Denver, LeBron James hit the mark, right? Before the series, he hit the all-time mark. All-time scorer. Before that, right? Yeah, earlier in the season. So we sweep the team with the best player on the planet. And y'all came from seven all the way to meet us, and we got rid of y'all motherfuckers with no problems.

Y'all should have us on y'all mind. Y'all should be thinking about us, dreaming about us, nightmares, shaking up, cold sweats. Fuckin' Denver. Fuckin' Denver. Fuck them.. I can't wait to see them. I get it. But I like how Malone approaches it. He's like, yeah, man, they should be thinking about us. We stole their bet. Bruce Brown, right? They lost Bruce Brown this year. That's going to hurt. Hell nah. They lost Jeff too, right? So they lost Bruce Brown, lost Jeff Green.

That's their locker room, right? Green They lost Jeff too, right? So they lost Bruce Brown, lost Jeff Green. That's their bet. Bro, that's all right. That's their locker room. Green back most of the court. Christian Brown played good in the finals. Peyton Watson in his second year now. Hopefully he'll be able to crack the rotation. He'll pick somebody up by February.

But looking at this Nuggets team, do all these big offseason moves by other teams make Denver feel like they don't have the same target on their back as a defending championship? Because we've done this show all week, really haven't talked much about the Nuggets. I mean, I think Denver should just stay low-key. I mean, just stay low-key and just keep doing what they do. I mean, your MVP, I saw him walking into media that he was like, you know, had a ball. So it's just kind of like, I think they just, you know, they take the San Antonio route.

They have no choice. like you know yeah it's denver but you depend on the longevity and chemistry i think that's what surprised everybody last year like they all said denver is really good because they've been playing with each other for at least five years yeah so it's like now we year six y'all making all these changes to adjust to what we do every year. We're number one in the West. What y'all going to do now? Oh, you got another new team? Good luck.

Jamal Murray coming back. I can't wait to see him again. I mean, the only thing that helps them this year with not bringing anybody back is if Michael Porter Jr. turns it up. From what he did last year. Because he makes just a big jump, right? Like averaging 20-something and become a real guaranteed three man that's really putting pressure on people.

That would change up for not doing any off-season moves. Aaron Gordon, too. Aaron Gordon. I mean, Aaron Gordon is like... Yeah, he's's gonna be him He gonna be like he was the fourth option, but in the playoffs he was more like the third option Yeah, right So that's why I said if if if Michael Porter jr. Takes that next step and he can be like a clay Thompson where?

Any given night he can give you 40 that move a different team way different. Yeah, not a yeah not a more Yeah, yeah, but if he's gonna give you that, you know The the 13 a 17 like he's been doing then it's not really like that. Yeah, now they more, yeah now they more. But if he's going to give you the 13, the 17 like he's been doing, then it's not really like that. Yeah. You're going to have to ask, are people sleeping on the Nuggets? Like do we? No, because they won.

But we don't. Because it's just the moves. I think it's like the Patriots. You know how the Patriots would win and then then they didn't make any offseason moves. Then they come in. And win it again. They win it again. You'd be like, they got back to the Super Bowl again.

Even with the Chiefs. The Chiefs the same way. Are you saying Michael Malone is like a Belichick or Andy Reid, though? Stop. I'm saying he has potential. He has potential. He has potential. He got potential.

He got the potential. He's showing consistency. Because he got that dog in got potential. He's showing consistency. Because he got that dog in the back. He's showing consistency. And the way Joke is walking in, he like, listen. Tom Brady. Tom Brady. He Tom Brady in the situation out there, bro.

So that's not Pop? Huh? That's not Steve Kerr? No. It's a different approach. No. Because he not doing it from a systematic approach. No, we're talking about this era.

Like, yeah, Pop was that. Now it's like, you know, I feel like Mike Malone. As long as Steve Kerr's still here. Yeah, but Steve Kerr, he talks a lot. Like, the coach, he don't say that. He says, like, two words, I mean, I guess. Yeah. All right, cool.

Sure. You know, but he's not sure. I mean, he guesses. That's what you want. So we talk about the Lakers. They're looking for revenge. Obviously, they fortified their roster. But you got some other good teams in the West.

The Warriors are kind of just lingering, I think, ready to make some noise. Who's the biggest threat to the Nuggets in the West? Everybody. I mean, the Lakers, the Suns. Would you throw the Clippers in there? Clippers? Healthy? On paper, healthy? I mean, Clippers, I mean, if they're healthy,

I mean, Clippers is going to be dangerous, too. Big if, but... Memphis, if John comes back. I mean, we got to see what these first 25... No, they're just not. I mean, they're just young. Just the same thing with, like, Sacramento. They're just young.

I mean, Golden State, to be honest, because Wiggins didn't play majority of that year last year. Thank you. So the fact that he's back, but they do lose a pool, which that was just an erratic score coming off the bench that just changes the tempo. But I mean, to really challenge them, them, I mean, you know, the real challenge is going to be Suns, Lakers, Clippers. Don't get mad at me. You said Timberwolves, Timberwolves was their toughest

challenge last year. You got Ant now a year stronger, a year better. Do you see them being a potential threat to them? Nope. No, I mean, you know, Wolves is missing, they're just missing something, you know. Nope. No, I mean, you know, wolves is missing. They're just missing something, you know, everything. A great point guard that can, you know, Ant-Man is, you know, you got Ant, you got, not Rudy, what's the, Cat. Yeah. That's it. Rudy is like, if that's your third option, then you know you can't win. If they make a move, I'm just saying, somebody on the West is going to make a move, it's going to be like, hmm, okay.

I don't know why y'all glossing over the fact. I think James might come to the West. I don't know why y'all glossing over the fact that there's a guy named Nikola Jokic. Jokic, I believe. J's is wise. Right. There ain't no team they worried about because they got him and if you ain't got no formidable big man to match up with yoke with the Joker Which is the only one on the only is on the East Coast two of them is on the East Coast

So everybody on the West even though you made these roster adjustments. You got good guards. You got good guard play We still plan out of this post from this big man that ain't none of them bigs down there can handle. And the only one can is AD. And we seen what he put on his dong piece. Huh? 28, 15, and 10 averaging. That was last year.

So it's like, yo, what are you going to do this year that's going to change that? And like you said, if Michael Porter come back and play better, it's going to make it harder for you to double. You seen him in the weight room. You seen him in the weight room. He was in the weight room. He ain't got a chance. I've seen that video every year. He's got a chance to run the league like how Shaq did.

Dominant. Is he not doing it already? Dominant, like, no. Like these next two years. Like say he win it. Not dominant in the sense of how Shaq was doing it already? Dominant, like, no. Like these next two years. Like, say he went, like... Not dominant in the sense of how Shaq was doing it. His dominance is... He's collecting points, right?

He's collecting his 20 to 25, the 12 rebounds, the 10 assists. That's... The assists is where he gets it, right? If you take away his assists, you know, his 25 dominant like the other ones were? But 25 and 10.

Yeah, but 25 and 10 and 15 is dominant. His way is the new age. But it's a team way. It's the team way. What I'm saying, 25 and 10 is not dominant in the big man

in this league. What? All the other big men are averaging 30 and 10. 30 and 10. Only over two big men. No, no, no. Two other big men.

The assist is what? That's my point, though. But you got the 25 and 10 assists the rebounds is what it is But if you let's just say hypothetically you don't get those tennis is now he's averaging 45 and 0 since you say he's the most dominant Yes, man. So that's got to account for some. Yeah. No, no that counts. That's why he is who he is You know, you got to count it all as how many points do you bring? To the game yourself. Yeah, you're done. I was calculated How many points are you and his a sit because it assists that's two to three points. So he's he's bringing in about 53 53 to 60 points by himself, but y'all know if we understand if us three on the same team, right? And we bought the lineup against Joker

First thing we in the layover line saying like who, who the fuck going to guard Joker tonight, bro? I don't give a fuck about that. I know what I'm going to do is never help. I'm going to deny my man all day. You on your own, buddy. You on your own. But that's worse. On your own, buddy.

Think about us in film. It was like, hey, coach, what are we going to do on this? You on your own. Who on his own? Coach, what you mean he on his own? We cannot leave Calvin Booth down there with Joker. Not my problem. Nasty.

This is your matchup, buddy. Nasty. I had A. Look, I had A our last round. I'm right here. See what it feel like. See what it feel like. All right, well, let's move on.

I know this is going to be a very eventful debate, heated discussion. Oh, man. I'm just telling you. Is he planning shit? I'm preparing the audience, okay? Here we go. They're resting right now. I think some people tried to jump off.

Oh, no. Chat being lazy. What was that? What was that sound effect? Hand shake. Oh, do it again. Do it again. Lay it on me one more time.

Hit me. Eh, eh. But let's go. Bucky Gidding is a cherished art form in the league league few have done it better than Kevin Durant and Carmelo Anthony, but Who's the better score in their prime KD or Melo Damn That's the easy fucking answer to me score that's just overall

The getting of buckets i mean you levels like you said probably overall you would go mellow because he had four level five level scoring which is layups like everyone talks about three level scoring right that's that's basic fucking people triple threat casuals there's casuals, you know, layup, midi, and then the three-point line. There's three levels. Motherfucker that's posting up

and there's isos. Yep. Right? And, you know, Melo posted up and Melo was an iso player.

That's five levels of scoring. You know, that's what I said, that basic bullshit is, you know, oh, layup and he got the mid-range and then he has of you know scoring you know that's i said that basic bullshit is you know oh lay up and he got the mid-range and then he has you know you have a guy that's great at posting up and a great a guy that's great at you know um one-on-one isolation so when it comes to the the who is the most you know um complete score and you would say mellow for me same over here y'all agreed on something yeah hell yeah

hell yeah i mean because we're looking at it from the lens of tier level scoring right and i seen mellow from when he had the growth spurt and he had the handle and a lot of people get away from mellow's handle where he can bring it up and hitop, bop, bop, hit you with the midi, hit you with the off the dribble, right? Then Mello is playing small forward so he can come off picking rolls, right? So when you're looking at that compared to KD, I say give Mello seven foot height. And you're like, OK, what are we doing here? But KD has that seven foot. I understand that.

So that's an advantage for KD. But I'm just scoring whatever. So skill set, you say, all right, mellow at 6'8 in the post. You know what I'm saying? Face up. You talk about ISO. You talk about off the dribble. You talk about shooting a three. Everything is just as effective as KD.

Mr. B, I don't know. I don't feel like you're rolling, Mr. B. He got to prove it, though. He can't just say KD and not show me. No, I mean... Show me. It's being shown. No, it's not.

It's still being shown. Show me that it's better than Mellos. No, no. Walk into the league. I mean, listen. He's the best. He's the best. See, the problem with mine is...

KD. What KD does and how he does it himself. We'll never see it again. Right? Like, he's going to go arguably like one of the top natural scores to do it. Right? But this is coming from two different players like James Harden, right? James Harden will go down as a great score.

But I'm judging off of the levels of how he can score. He can only score one way, right? Harden can only score the way he does it. He can't pin down. He can't come off screens. He can't do any of that. But how he perfected his scoring, top notch. Same deal with Kevin Durant. How he

perfected his scoring is top notch, but he don't post up and he don't, he don't, he come off pin down. So tell me what, tell me what, tell me his skillset. Tell me his skillset. I just told you mellow. I just told you mellow.

Putting that bitch in a rim. Putting that bitch in a rim. Putting that bitch in a rim. That's what I'm saying. Tell me. Break it down. Wherever. Break it down.

Wherever. Wherever. Anytime I step between the lines, I'm putting that bitch in a rim. How about that? That's just what it down. Wherever. Break it down. Wherever. Wherever. Every time I step between the lines, I'm putting that bitch in the room. How about that? That's just what it is. No, no, no. I don't give a fuck. Wherever. When I step...

What's this? That's the court. Hey, you said he's putting it in the room. When I step between the lines, that bitch is going in the room. Is it a mismatch? Yes. For whoever. Why is it a mismatch?

For whoever. He's seven foot and... Seven foot. Say it again. Seven foot. Say it seven foot and seven foot. Say it again. Seven foot. Say it again. Mello Strong. Say it again.

We'll never see it again. We'll never see it again. So tell me his skill set outside of Mello. If we put weight on Kevin Durant, good luck. Good luck for everybody. That's like saying give Mello seven foot. No, but I love, like, let's. Give Carmelo seven foot. No, but I love... Give Carmelo seven foot.

Are you fucking serious? But this is a conversation that's deeper than just who's scoring. I wanted to do this. It'll hurt a lot of players' careers. If you say, alright, name all

your all-life top ten five-level scorers. Right? Because it's five levels of scoring. Real five levels. That elite five levels. That takes out generations of players. Because, you know, when you talk about the 80s,

you're really talking about Jordan, the 80s, 90s Jordan. Then you got Bird. Yeah. Right? Maybe it. Bird. I mean, the big manish Jordan, then you got Bird. Maybe it. The big man, the reason the big man is not a part of this is because this...

You're talking about those two. Kobe. I guess what you're talking about... You know what I mean? Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce is a... T-Mac a little bit.

T-Mac is four or five. Does T-Mac post up much? A little bit, but not much. Yeah, I mean, you know, T-Mac... But that's what I'm saying. You see how when you add the other two elements of posting up and ISO ball, you can see how a lot of great scores will be out of this category. And that's the difference.

Like, Melo is in a category. KD ain't in a category yet because of the posting up and all that. I mean, he tries it, but that's not his skill set. His skill set is face up, and I'm just going to shoot over you. Yo, can we look up the stats? Hold on. My bad. Like dirt?

Yo, can we look up the stats of when Carmelo played against LeBron 101 and when KD played against LeBron 101? KD's going to bust this. But Melo's going to bust this. But Melo's going to bust this. I just want to see the numbers. The 1-on-1 matchup. I know they got it. I'm 7 foot playing against the 6'8 guy, man.

What does that mean? What does that mean? What does that mean? I'm little. I'm skinnier than you. I like... What do you think about Chris Middleton's game? I like Chris Middleton's game.

It's, you know, it gets... It is. Straight to the point. You're talking about shooting and scoring and skill, right? Chris Middleton's game. I like Chris Middleton's game. It's you know, it gets into the... What are you talking about shooting and scoring and skill, right? Give him seven foot. Nah, that's different. You're comparing Chris Middleton to Kevin Durant. No, I just said give Chris Middleton seven foot. Who is he?

No, are you comparing... Who is he? You're comparing... Just saying. Give Mikael Bridges seven foot. Who is he? You're talking about natural...but you're talking about like one's just a phenomenal natural score right kd's just like he's just a natural like he's gonna go he goes down as

probably one of the best scores he compared chris middleton to kate i didn't compare anything i say if you give him seven foot who is he talking about five low score do you throw free throws in there too no that's six scoring that's. I'm just talking about, like... It's the sixth level of scoring. I'm just talking about somebody who can post up, right? He's dangerous in a post-up. He's dangerous in the iso. Dangerous getting to the basket. Dangerous on a pull-up. Dangerous for the three.

Right? That's how you evaluate. That's what I'm saying. There's a different level of scoring. Just everybody's just used to the basic math of three. So you want to talk head-to to head Carmelo LeBron? But what do you want to see? We got the comparison. Or the matchup between Melo and KD.

We got the LeBron Carmelo comparisons. How many times did they play against each other? Melo in the post is unstoppable, bro. You have to foul Melo in the post, bro. He's a bully. I'm just asking. He's a bully, bro. That's the difference.

Because we love talking about numbers. They played against each other 46 times. LeBron won 30 of those. Mello won 16. Regular season, they played 36 times. LeBron won 22. Motherfucker, save the number. We don't care about the record.

Because it don't matter. The record don't fucking matter. Point comparison, LeBron averaged 26.2. Mello averaged 21.3. Game highs, LeBron average 26.2, Mello average 21.3. Game highs, LeBron have 43, Mello have 42. But that makes sense. See, how Mello plays, LeBron can defend that. LeBron can't defend KD.

Because there's the height difference. Can't none of them defend KD because there's the height difference. Neither one can defend KD. No, no, they can't defend KD because KD's guard-like. So Melo's going to try to toughen up. He's going to try to do this with LeBron. LeBron can guard that. KD ain't doing all that.

KD going to sit in there and yank. But KD can't do that. KD can't do that. All he has to do is sit there, turn around, steppy. You can't play bully ball. That's not his advantage. Exactly. KD-LeB Katie LeBron comparisons Katie 29.8 points per game LeBron 29.6 But what's the mellow KB comparison? That's the way they play much against each other. Yeah, yeah, they own the West Yeah, they own the West

Yes, I don't know they were going to like that's why I'm even looking at these numbers There's so much other shit. You got to factor into it like height guarding I don't know I just feel like what changed me with Katie is when they played against LeBron in Miami and they went back and forth When I saw that little one-on-one when they had that little they went up and down like it would go to state But this is this is like LeBron can guard mellow easier because we're mellow is gonna try to play that game at Bronner strong enough to handle that. And as a chess point, Katie's

sitting there with this, and it makes Braun move left or right, and when he pulls up it's more energy to guard KD. It's not diminishing KD at all because it turns into T-Mac if he's 6'8". It turns into T-Mac if he's 6'8". So what I'm saying is nothing.

That's what I said said there's no diminishing Him being seven foot, but when we say that was a tough shot Oh, he getting that bitch off cuz he's seven foot wait cheap cheap cheap a healthy team at Melo and better than a healthy team at I know I'm this way what this mellow better scored in a healthy team at Prime team Mac was all five. Listen, I'm usually we was shimmying Kobe, you know, I Got the same shit you got and then you see But okay, he got that board. I'm glad he's trying to but that's the same he got the same thing though That's what I'm saying. But do 80 got the mellow mellow ain't I

Think mellow will beat up T Mac cuz he That's why anybody's not a better score than team, but that's why I'm saying I don't think team a team at war Look T Mac did easy. That's easy. I mean Yoma I was there when he scored 60 That wasn't even a good game. I got a lot he missed the man missed like 9 10 free throws Mr. Bunge he should have had 80 team act better than uh, James Harden a good game. I got a lot. He missed. The man missed like nine, ten free throws. Missed a bunch. He should have had 80. T-Mac better than

James Harden? Yeah. As a score? James Harden perfected something. So, like, what's the point? What, the travel? No, what I'm saying is

James Harden perfected what he does best. Like, if you say James Harden, I'm going to take the ball out of your hand, be efficient in scoring. Can he do that?

All I got to do is come up and do a step back and score. But that's what I'm saying. It's a different... It's a different thing because he only has... Like, if we're talking about complete scoring, right?

James Harden can only do the one. That's like if we said... Like when everyone talks about Giannis. He can only Euro dunk. He perfected that. Okay. Like, we can't take it away from him. Okay.

Like, we can't take it away from him. He perfected the fuck out of that, and if you can't stop it, he shouldn't have to do nothing else. But you can't put him over someone else just because he got something that you can't... I can't. Like, when people say,

yeah, who are you going to take as a scorer? And then I always say complete scoring, because I like to say, if you can take the ball out of my hand, they can do something else and be effective. Right. Right? I'm going to go with someone else,

but if they say, no, just get in buckets, I want James. I'll take that. Because you can't stop it. Because if you can't stop that, then you don't need to do nothing else. Right, right. Is he a better scorer than Paul Pierce?

What? Yeah. Paul Pierce? What? Yeah. Paul Pierce could score from everywhere. No, no, no. Paul was a scorer. Yeah, because that's a good question because it just looked different. It looked different. It just looked different.

That's why I say with the KD thing, it looked different because you're seven foot. Paul Pierce was in the NBA in the fourth quarter. There was nobody better than him for like three years. You ain't on this show! But this is what I'm saying. But this is what I'm saying. This is what I'm asking. Like, I mean, but you asking me,

I mean, like, I'm not a Penny Hardaway fan and I'm not a TMAC fan. They didn't do nothing for me. So I'm just looking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but no. You hear me? Yes.

I don't know what it is. What's up? What's up? Yeah. What's up, Mr. B? No, yeah, yeah. No, but no. You hear me? Yes. I don't know what it is. What's up? What's up? Yeah. What's up, Mr. B? I'm in that era where I'm watching both be great. I studied both of them, too. Team Mac was different.

But Paul, I feel like Paul just looked different. It was so easy for Mac. It was like Vince Carter, right? Yes. It was so easy for Mac that it was like Vince Carter, right? Yes. It was just easy. I'm so mad at Vince for what he did to the game. The GOAT debate should have been him. 100%.

Okay. He was so naturally gifted than anything you've ever seen. Okay. He was so naturally gifted than Anything you've ever seen period he had Everything there was no like he had everything dribble shoot fade moves. I would work he had everything if He had this the mindset like Kobe like I'm better than everyone and I'm'm going to show y'all. There was nobody that was stopping that man. There was nothing that was stopping Vince Carter. When Vince Carter came in the lane, there was no big man that was willing to challenge it because they didn't want to be on ESPN.

Excuse me. That was him. Think about, show Toronto. Every time he went back to Toronto, show those stats. Because he didn't like them, they traded. Watch what he did to them every single time. He averaged damn near 40. So you think the trade is what stopped his hungerness?

I just think he was just too nice. It was fun for him. It was too nice. It was fun. He was just nice. See, I don't like players like that. But that's why I said. Like, you know who else was like that?

You know who else was like that when we played against him? And I'm just saying he was just a nice person. He was like Jamil Nelson. Like he didn't want to like crack jokes. Not that he was like, I'm just saying like he was just like. He didn't take it serious. He was just like, you know, trying to crack jokes because he felt like, you know, maybe I'll bust his ass or whatever. But I'm just looking at him like the team that you own and y'all fighting for the finals.

Like I wouldn't be like, you know, cracking jokes or anything like that. Yeah. So I get it. Like it's just like some players just be going to cool it's like hey what's up man how you doing like fuck out of here you know you're doing that you do you say hi back to him not really I mean not really I mean I mean I mean I was a rookie so like I was just like yeah like whatever like hot but it's just like I'm trying to kill you nice job number one no no some people like he had other person personalities on the team where he just was chill. Yeah, right

He was just he was just chill. He was cool like but like Vint like a man I seen and I'm like, oh You could have had 50 tonight bro. You bullshit not there like it just players like that You just be like to be the trade in like um, what's the shooter name? Murray For who? Cleet I think he played in Cleveland. He was like a

Small forward and I flipped no. No. No, he was a small forward shooting guard Murray Murray. Yeah, he was was is Murray? Marshall it was like 90 like two thousand three four this early. He was a he was a midi type of guy shoot the hell out of the ball It was like soon as he got the 1819 each. Are you chilling out like same thing with like Tim Thomas? Yeah, nobody garn Tim Thomas. They get they get they get they Thomas. They get their numbers, they good. Monsters. You don't know who they are? Not Lamont. Lamont Murray. Lamont Murray.

Lamont, man. God damn. Man, he was coming, man. He was scoring so easy, man. He was starting the game off. He got 15, 16 straight. Oh, yeah, he got 50 tonight. 18 points in the first quarter.

18 points for the game. Won't took another shot. Wow. And I'm like, some guys like that. But I mean, there was just some, man, there's some guys that just was so good, but Vince, he should have been, it should have been when it came to just the ability to really go at Jordan's legacy. Of course he would have failed

because of the rings and shit, but just what he did. Like, you see his in-game dunks, man. Yeah, yeah. Jordan ain't got that shit. Bro, Lamar Murray and J.K. that cow. Man, Lamar. Disgusting.

I was going to say, I see something. Like, we've seen it where you be like, man, dude, dude, him. He was him. Yeah, he him, but... Insanity. But then he just stopped. He just, he good. He good. He got his numbers. I The insanity. But then he just stopped. He just, he good.

He good. He got his numbers. I'm good. Good game. That's what I changed. He was my favorite player starting out. And then 2002 hit. And Kobe was birthed.

It was like, I was like, who is this? And why is he soaring this way? Mentality. Yeah, and it was his mentality. I seen it. I was like, Kobe's my new favorite. Mentality. So, wait, we got the poll results in here.

What the poll? KD, better score than their prime. We asked the chat. Mellow. My favorite moment of mellow, though, was at Syracuse. So, the poll, the chat said 62% KD, 38% mellow. Wait, wait, say what? Say chest at 62% KD 38% Mela What 62% you KD we're not checking out the deficit that that argument was just it just yeah, it's a skill

I think it's a it's a because you you can't have a both because they do just different things You pay a lot of money when I heard I was like, oh I'm still playing a lot of money to see both. To see both? I mean, if they're playing their element, KD busting their ass. I guard both of them. Because, you know, what's-her-name is backpedaling the whole time. Okay.

He's going to have him on skates. Paul Pierce got some love today. Lamar Murray, Gil, we're trending in the right direction. Lamar Murray cannot take this clip and show his family. Y'all niggas see me on Gil's arena. Hey, Lamar Murray, are this clip and show his family My Mario in the summertime Dude, he was it was it was disrespectful like but he's a nice dude so mad again your ass busted by dude Who's actually nice to you? Yeah, I don't like nice dudes I don't like that. I think that's why they're you too nice to be nice

It's in so I mean when you're talking about at that elite level, like how Jordan said it, right? You know, if you didn't want to win that way, you know, that's on you. Yeah. To be good like that, you have to be asshole. Like, that means you're not settling for nothing other than greatness, right? And that's why when people talk about the mama mentality and you're talking now, and it's like, hold on. I remember back then when what he was doing,

how he thought y'all just said it was bad, it was selfish, because he didn't think that you should be asking for the ball if you didn't put the work in. That is considered selfish. You guys didn't put the work in. That is considered selfish. You guys didn't like the mentality, right? Pass the ball, Kobe, this and that. You made fun of it, right? When he started winning and winning and winning, there's a reason they win. If you tell me, what do you think about Tom Brady? I can tell you, he's probably an asshole. You can't be that great being a nice guy. Doesn't work like that. Bill Belichick, asshole. You can't be that great being a nice guy. Yeah doesn't work like that. You know Belichick asshole. You can't be that great

And be nice. That's just the hard works. There's a reason skip Bayless is where he's at Yeah, you can't be nice and be that not for sure You gotta be cut throat and you're gonna imagine you coming into training camp and Kobe like I pass you the ball cuz you ain't Work hard all year. Yeah, You just sit here just like. Hey, Antoine Walker once said. I'm going to rebound it then, Mr. Bryant. Why am I passing you the ball? Antoine Walker once said, I trust my shot more than I trust yours.

I trust my shot more than I trust yours, little nigga. You better move around. You better move around until I feel like passing it. I'd rather miss than let you shoot it. For sure. That's some fucked up shit, but that's the game. All right, let's move around. You better move around until I feel like passing. I'd rather miss than let you shoot. For sure. That's some fucked up shit, but that's the game. Alright, let's move on. Time for Mostly Fans, our last Mostly Fans of the week.

It's almost time to go. Hey! Chat, as a reminder, you ask a good Mostly Fans question, you use your underdog fantasy username, you will get $50 deposited into your account, courtesy of Gil's Arena and Gil... Okay, you got the tough crowd.

Yeah, I wore mine on Tuesday. Yeah. That's all white. That's all white. Give him the buttercream. Give him the buttercream, boys. Give him the light skin on me. Brandon blessed me with a t-shirt.

I can't wear it when he's on the show, though. Y'all will see for obvious reasons next week. Yeah. You know, the Dick Riley comments are gonna come out. It's a good shirt, though, so I'm gonna rock it. But, uh, I'm being honest. I like that shirt, though. So good. So good. Basic. So good. I'm a man

of basic t-shirts. Here's the one thing. We do all these shows, and I gotta buy more clothes. I might have to actually start buying, like, good shoes. You got a promotion, man. You just said you was going to buy a bunch of expensive shit. Yeah, listen, we ain't got the table. So y'all got to come. Yeah, man. Keep weighing the chuck every goddamn day. Come on, man.

Every booker. I'm on that D book. You saving up for something big. You saving. I know you save. You cheap. You cheap. You rich, but you cheap. I'm frugal. I think for Halloween, we should all dress up. I think we got a show on Halloween. I think we should all dress up on Halloween. I'll stay in character, goddamn. Who you want me to be next?

Here you go, man. Who you want me to be next? Who you want me to be next, motherfucker? Our first question comes from an underdog fantasy user. His name is KennyMac120. KennyMac. Bold predictions on who makes the NBA Finals this year. It's early, but let's get these shits going.

Because if you're right, we can take this tape back in June. Be like, look how smart we were. If you're wrong, we just want to acknowledge it. Like Floyd Mayweather does when he loses his bets. Come on, man. I'm going Bucks-Lakers. I'm going Bucks-Golden State. Care to elaborate?

You think that's what's going down? And who's winning? I don't want to talk You gotta pull up to a Warriors game In Milwaukee. Yeah, I'm sorry. Are you worried January 13? January 30 where I'm wearing my buck shirt in my step sneakers Wearing my buck shirt in my step sneakers in their, okay. I'm wearing my Bucks shirt and my Steph sneakers. The tough crowd, Steph collab with the pro Bucks gear. Bucks people are cool though. They gave Draymond a pass, I'll give you a pass.

Gil, you gotta come. I'm telling you, you're gonna love it. 414 Milwaukee. They'll embrace you. We have a day off? No, listen, we're gonna go. We're gonna get quarter-sized see so we're gonna sit there You won't come with me. I'm gonna interview y'all again. I'm a dame. I'm a dame Jersey. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's perfect That's fine. You say in Jersey only good. Okay, good. You good

They said that the hood homies told me in Milwaukee. They said me and Boosie the only ones good I got it like that So the y'all has got to give you a pass though You come to walkie or at least in that crumb bullet man Racine Oh, yeah, you know, you got his own street. The NASA's gotta give you a pass It's going back we're running it back where who's we eat Nuggets run it back run it back cuz y'all all capping on the emo Jimmy The same shit happened last year,

going to happen again this year. Jimmy is two for four for the finals. He's been there. So it's like, yeah, let's get it back. We ain't worried about nothing. We ain't worried about nothing. We've done it with less. You got to keep trying to get more

for the same fucking results. All I'm going to say is mid-season, don't be saying shit. I'm just hoping. You better stay with that same vibe. You better stay with that same hat. You better stay with that all year. Listen. Don't change.

Don't start off. But wait. Can I give an asterisk, though? We got to get rid of, like, Kyle Lowry got to get his ass up out of there. Hold on. Oh, you're expecting a trade. No, no, yes, I am. Mid-season trade is going to enhance our roster 100%. No, no, yes, I am. Mid-season trade is going to enhance our roster 100%.

No, no, so... 100%. I guess it still counts if they make it because of... James Harden? Whatever move we make, we got to make a move that's going to change the dynamic of our team. No, not this time of career. If he got his mind right and said,

I will go lock in... If he go lock in in Miami... You said this before. I was just feeling your take. But why would he go lock in. If he go lock in in Miami. You said this before. I said, but why would he go lock in if he was thinking about going back to Houston to lead the league in scoring? Because that didn't work out. But if that's where his mind was to go lead the league in scoring. He ain't got no nightlife in Miami. He ain't going to Miami.

Well, maybe they let him do that and change his mentality into winning his world. That's frustrating. Yeah, I can't even go. Y'all go play. Why you going to show me that habit? I can't go out there, really. I think Pat will let him do it. Pat will let who?

Pat will let James lead the league in scoring. Hell no. Shit. Why not? Shit, man. What was Dame going to do? What was Dame going to do? Dame wasn't going to come down there and average 20.

Ron, homie's on the plane. You think I'm going to just come and let you just do that? Yeah. Ron's in the MVP. Yeah. That nigga's got a fun experience. He took the cookies off the plane. But what did Ron average?

He took the cookies off the plane on LeBron. Yeah. Because he was doing healthy? But LeBron still gave us 28. No. But what I'm saying. No, I'm just saying, you see, I'm sure he took the, we ain't talking about no club. Yeah, we just talking.

We talking cookies. Like, I don't want no cookies on this plane no more. Fuck them cookies. Your oatmeal, right? Hey, Bron was in that... You know what they said? You know what they said? I guess Bron about to leave now, because he going to take this personal.

Hell no. That's why he left. Bron was in that damn pool. He was taking cookies. Bron was in that damn pool. Over at Chocolate Chip Cookies, was it Mrs. Fields? Star Island, he was in that pool. Left.

He was in that pool doing them motherfucking pool exercises. He was doing them pool exercises. Back-to-back championships. Back-to-back championships. No, no, no. Yeah, back-to-back championships. Three years he did. Back-to-back championships. He went four straight times.

You know what I'm saying? You did that, and then that year coming in, midway through the season, he wanted everybody to be healthy, took the cookies off the plane. And he was like, yo, you know that's bronze cookies. I don't care who cookies they are. Fuck these cookies. He took them off the plane. Yeah, all right. Yeah, all right. Yeah, all right. And they said this. They said, bronze said, you don't want my cookies. Oh, it's personal. And fuck it. You gave us two. Take your ass home. Yeah, all right. So what do you think you're going to do?

You gave us two. Y'all will never win it again. Take your ass home. Take your ass home. But what I'm saying is, and you think James Harden about to go to club and do all that dumb shit? James Harden ain't LeBron James. The nigga took LeBron's picture. I know. Exactly.

I know. Exactly. They gonna do him worse. This one's a professional. This one just, he's still single. But he gave us two. He's still single. Gave us two.

This man was a movement. That nigga was single. And if he can do this to a movement right here let's be real this is a war we talk about the list and they took the business of stardom let's be real. Let's be real. Pat Wright. Pat Wright. You better talk to Dwyane Wade on how this man used to talk to them.

Let's be real. Let's be real. James ain't walking in Miami doing nothing. Man, you better sit right here. You better sit your ass down. Pat, you owe us. Owe who? Miami.

You got to get us somebody good in here. Let's be real. Give him what he need. Give him what he need I but I don't give him what he needs And motherfucker LeBron James good luck said Pat used to talk to him this man is a godfather godfather That's why D Wade is in Utah So what you think he gonna do what you think he gonna do? James Harden? What that mean?

James Harden averaged 30. He might come and say, yeah, we think you worth two million. They saying. We think you worth two million this year. They saying James Harden better than D-Wade. I don't know who said that. Jeff Teague. Jeff Teague said it. I can tell you this.

I guarantee this. Out loud. Out loud. Hey, tell James Harden. Out loud. I don't know about that one. He said, hey, they ain't saying I'm doing the D-Wade move. They saying I'm doing the James Harden.

I want to hear somebody report. But listen, Dwayne ain't played. I'm just saying. Dwayne Wade ain't played. So don't give me no references or comparisons between James and D-Wade. It's a new day. Pat, Pat, we need this nigga. I'm going to go to Pat, turn my phone on and say, hey man, you should

have James Harden come here. I want to hear his real reaction. We thinking about it. Pat Rowling? We thinking about it. We thinking about it. Talking about Harden, Ty Lue was asked about what he thinks about James Harden today. His response, I don't know. Damn. Oh, he can't talk anyway.

That's tampering. That's tampering. He can say he's a great player for the Sixers. As an overall player, no. James, let me get back to that later. As an overall player, no. James got to go somewhere. He got to go somewhere.

For sure. I mean, you go to Houston, got to go somewhere. For sure. You go to Houston. You go to Atlanta. Clippers. If he's going to win. They probably don't want that. To win.

They probably don't want that. To win. To win. James got to go somewhere to win. It's his style. I don't even. I mean, but where are you going to win? The problem is he has improved. He's not going to Miami.

They're not taking him into Miami. Not at this age in my career. They're not taking him to Miami. Huh? Why not? Because you ain't capable. I'm just... We practice every...

We practice every day. Gary Pate. Harden works hard, though, right? Look, look. Hey, hey, hey. Antoine Walker. Yo, look who he mentioned. Shaq.

No, no, go back. Go back. Who you say first? That was the 06 team. 06 championship team. Shaq, Gary Pate. The 06 championship team. 06 championship team. No, no, no Go back. Who you say first? That was the 06 team? 06 championship team. Gary Payton. The 06 championship team. 06 championship team.

No, no, no. That team right there was probably the most difficult lifestyle team that he had. Where he had, you know, you had Gary Payton. You had... Antoine. Antoine. You had Shaq. You had Posey.

You had all ofgy Got Hot. Antoine. Antoine. You had Shaq. You had Posey. You had all of them. Jason Williams. The difference between that is there was a Shaquille O'Neal. Yep. And he made the rules where because it's all five of us, you can't fuck with all five of us. Yep. You can't penalize them because Pat.

What Pat was trying to do. They made it work. It was do. They made it work. It was five. They made it work. Five vets. It was five vets. They made it. It's five. It's five vets.

Two of them Hall of Famers. Pat found a way. Two of them Hall of Famers. Five that you had Shaquille O'Neal saying, this is my crew. We're going to the strip club tonight. If you penalize one, you penalize all of us. So that means we all don't. Who James Crew?

Who we coming in with? Jimmy ain't playing that shit. Haslam ain't playing that shit. Listen. And all them other ones that's trying to make the team, they like now. Haslam gone, man.

No, he's still there. Haslam is gone. No, he's still on that coaching. Haslam. He'll be on that bench. Hey, hey. I bet you'll be on that bench. When Shaq left, you ain't never heard another player in the club doing that no more.

Pat can make it work. I'm telling y'all. No, no. Pat gonna make it work. Yeah. Pat gonna say, hey, sit. We doing five miles a day. You running five miles a day.

I'm gonna find you. I'm gonna find you every day. James is running that. No. James is running five miles a day. Y'all don't act like he ain't working now. Don't act like he don't work. Don't act like he don't work.

Nobody said that. He's doing his work. He ain't doing his work. Don't act like he don't work. We just had D. Wright here. D. Wright said that Miami Heat culture is different. And they don't care. It don't mean that.

And they do not care. The nigga took LeBron's cookies. He don't not get that. He's taking somebody's cookies. Hey, hey. Who's arguably the two best players in history? not care. The nigga took LeBron's cookies. He don't not get that. Who's arguably the two best players in history? We're talking about Jordan and LeBron, right? He took LeBron's

cookies off the plane. If there was no Jordan, it'd be LeBron James, number one. Wow, LeBron is priming. We're talking about LeBron. We're talking about how long has LeBron been playing the season? Yes. We're talking about LeBron. We're talking about the... How long has LeBron been playing since?

Six years? We're talking about six more years he's supposed to be. Fuck your cookies. Fuck your cookies. That's crazy. What? LeBron walked on the plane looking for his cookies. And it's not like before the year where he can adjust, all right, I'm not going to have

my cookies. No, he came on. It was one of those Pat Riley walked in. What type of cookies? Just chocolate chip cookies. Oh. But what I'm saying is, you know how we have our type of food? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We all have our own thing. Yeah, yeah. Right? And, you know, everybody said this. It was like, all right, we're going to take all the sweets off the planes. Right? Boom, boom. I remember when they started doing that.

Yeah, take them cookies. Right? And it was like, oh, hey, Coach, I, I mean, Pat knows LeBron's cookies. You'll fuck about them damn cookies. So when LeBron can't eat, can I get the tongue tip? Get them goddamn cookies out of here. If Pat was a real one, when LeBron walked into the plate, he would just eat the cookie in front of him and say, this is the only cookie. James said he ready to be uncomfortable, man.

He said that? He said it. He said it to him? Yes. To where? He said it on Twitter and on Instagram. I'm ready to be uncomfortable. Well, all I know is in in life we all got answer to somebody

Very that man is Pat Riley telling you the brightest cookies back. That's the only place I can say I'm gonna give some chocolate chip cookies after this Fell off a little bit, but it's still it'll still get you where you know, we could bake them now. It's Halloween time Halloween cookies are too much, but there's only two people that got that kind of power. Pat and Pop. But Pop taking, he's not taking Tim Duncan cookies. He's taking Wimby's baguettes off the plane.

He can't have croissants on the plane. He won't let you work on the plane. He can say you can't, no work on the plane. No work on the plane. Man, that's a man. I remember my rookie year, man, when we was able to bring girls on the plane. Man, that shit was crazy. Huh?

Like my rookie was able to bring girls? Like women. I mean, you know, your significant whatever. Yeah, wife, girlfriend, girl. Girlfriend, whatever. I mean, whatever the girl was at the time, I mean, that's what would come on the plane. Yeah, they did it. I heard about it.

You heard about it. Oh, yeah. I ain't... Oh, you didn't bring a girl on the plane with you? In your sex you? They put them in the back with the media and all them other stuff. My rookie year, I know for sure, I mean, it was the wives, and then, you know, I would, you know, bring whoever I was with at the time on the plane with me. On the way back, at least.

I seen the wives on the plane on the way back, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we did that. Fred Horbert had his wife on there a couple times. We did that. Yeah, we did that. Might have just been the white guys only, but... But, like, okay, say the West Coast road trip? Like, the West Coast road trips, for sure. Yeah.

Well, like, the wife is definitely... The wife or whatever was going with you or coming back. Maybe not the work, but... I've never... I mean, yeah, but I'm saying it had to be girlfriend, you know, wife. I mean, the wife's for sure, but, you know... Show the ring and everything. Yeah, you know, be girlfriend, like...

I mean, I've heard stories, but didn't really think that was a thing. Oh, yeah, that was problematic. No, for sure. Oh, no, that was a thing. I've seen it. No, that's a problem. I mean it was a thing nice No, it was off the chain. It was a move on question number two to the from a high club, baby Underdog fantasy user friend to X goddamn Thursday crew with NBA or college arenas. Did you not like playing in? Who had the most trash arena? Who had the most trash like just dead arena, Atlanta?

Really really? Damn a lot of be cracking Atlanta maybe at the city. He had a fan base. I mean they come at halftime They come at half-time right Yeah, they came at halftime. They come at halftime, right? Like, it was them or Miami Heat. Orlando Magic. See, you know. They had.

Amway was bad. When I say trash, I'm thinking locker room. I'm thinking, like, how you got to get up in there. Orlando. Boston was, like, Boston is trash. How they teach you. Like, how they treat you. Cold showers if you win.

Like, how you got to back in. I swear, every time, time like we're not getting up In this arena back enough in there. New York was kind of trash man The Knicks was kind of get it Get it in there as trash But when you get to that that in there you hear the see I'm not just in a locker room like just the whole hallway Yes, I'm saying like Madison Square Garden. They build it it up, but then you take the janky elevator down.

Trash, man. Smell like trash in there. Janky. Damn. Sacramento. Sacramento is bad. The first one, the first arena. Okay.

Trash. The visitors locker room. High school. Oh, see, I thought you were talking about just the whole thing. The arena, the fans themselves. Yeah, no, we just talking about like... Nah, the arena. You know, like when you get there, you be like, God damn.

Like, your little locker. You know, you got your little. It's like, damn. Like, my nigga. Like, what's up? Dallas was fire. Washington State. I don't know when y'all used to play there.

There was never. That shit was always. I can't remember college. All the college. I mean, I didn't sit there four years. My bad. You did too, though. Too strong.

It was all. It was a glimpse, man. It was a glimpse. So like Portland, like Portland locker room is small. Like them small locker rooms where you like, like this is like, God. Seattle too, Key Arena. They asked today. See, I was just thinking, I was just thinking fan base.

Like, you know, those cities that just, they're not basketball fans. Like Atlanta's not a basketball fan, you know. Miami, that's not a basketball town. Like, Atlanta's not a basketball fan. Miami, that's not a basketball town. Like, you know, those small, like Orlando, Cleveland, like when you get in that arena, you be like, yeah. Like, the loudest arena I was a part of was Golden State. We were trash. And them fans was crazy.

Loud as fuck. OKC. OKC when they first got there? OKC first got there? Woo! That was like a college town. That was some exciting shit. Woo!

To be able to go to OKC with Katie and them. Woo! New Orleans was loud too, though. New Orleans Hornets. When CP was there, they was loud. Last question for y'all. Underdog username, McCantsme. I see them in the chat I see the fans in the chat

now that I'm familiar with we can't see me I'm like this lander so I'm like to show love very supportive but I appreciate y'all for y'all spammy either or because I'm getting back to Gilbert give a niggas nicknames I think I'm gonna enjoy this one. Would you rather come off the bench with a championship or start, not make the playoffs and average 39 points per game?

Wait, wait, wait. Start? Start, not make the playoffs, but you're averaging 39 points per game. My whole career? Rephrase the question. Rephrase the question. Would you rather come off the bench with a championship or start, not make the playoffs, and average 39 points per game? I'm coming off the bench. Man, 39...

Because I can still average... Listen, I... I can still average 25. 39 a night? You ain't coming... You ain't average... There ain't no bench player averaging 25. Listen, 39 a night is insane.

Facts. 39 a night... I don Facts. 39 a night. Listen, whatever. Can no nigga guard me in the world? Wilt then me? Yeah. Wilt then me? Hey, I'm averaging 20 off the bench.

No, you ain't. No, that ain't even happening. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Ginobili. Ginobili, Jason Terry. Because he didn't say no reference. No, Gilbert. Do not give yourself 25.

I'm giving myself whatever it needs for us to win off the bench. I'm coming off the bench. We're not saying five. We're not saying, oh, I'm getting five points. No, we didn't say it. It's a variable. That's a variable.

But the thing is, if you're a 39-point-per-game scorer on a non-playoff team, you, in theory, could be able to average a dub off the bench if you are that 39-point-per-game player. You can average a dub off the bench. I'm getting 39 point per game player you can average a dub off the bench I'm gonna do that with that and I'm getting a chip. Let's say I average 15 off the bench Oh, it's like 15. That's fine off the bench and I win

What fuck out of here? I'm getting crazy work. I'm that. But my work don't change. My work don't change. No, you're not. You're coming to my parade. Don't do that. You're coming to our parade. Your caliber at work does not look the same.

I'm drunk on the parade. 39. I'm drunk at my parade. 39. You watch my parade on TV. If I'm averaging 39. You at home watching the parade. Come on, that's what I'm on.

39. I'm going that high. You're one of the biggest stars in the world. Hey, listen. In 39. Hey, listen. I'm Michael Jordan. Off the parade. Come on, that's what I'm on. No, no, no. I'm going that high. You're one of the biggest stars in the world. Hey, listen. Hey, listen. I'm Michael Jordan. Off the bench. Before 91.

Off the bench. I'm MJ before 91. Off the bench. And I'm averaging 39. Your 39 can't get you one of these. Your 39 can't get you one of these. I need one of those. My 39.

You hear me? My 39. You know what that say? My 39 to give me better work. It don't say 39 under there. You know what it say? I bet you my work. What does it say underneath? I bet you my work. You know what it says? I bet you my work looks better. What does it say underneath?

I bet you my work looks better. You know what it says? It says champion. Who was the face of the league in 90? Who was the face of the league? Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan. He didn't win a championship yet, but he was averaging 37.

I want him. I want him. You can have him. You can have him. You can have him. Michael Jordan. Because you know what Isaiah was doing? Champion. But was Isaiah was doing? Champion.

Was Isaiah getting better? Isaiah ain't never. No, Vinnie Johnson. Vinnie Johnson. You Vinnie Johnson. Cool, you be a nigga named Vinnie Johnson. The microwave. I got my own nickname.

He said his work will be on the same level. I got my own nickname. Oh, my God. This man, Vinnie Johnson. The player over Michael Jordan. Hold on. He said our work will be on the same level. No, no, no, no. Champion.

Champion. Champion. Your work will not look like mine. Champion. Your house won't look like mine. Champion. Your life won't look like mine. Champion.

Your life. If I'm averaging 39 today. Your life, I don't. My life includes being a champion I can't see my house, man. What's wrong with Rouse? I own it. I like it. That was your 39. 39? No, no, no, no, no, Gil. I own it. No, that's not the conversation. See, you're changing the fucking conversation. No, no, no.

I better know what these motherfuckers out here don't play basketball. No, it ain't about what it gets you. You better know what 39 gets you. No, nigga. It don't get you this. It gets out of it. It don't get you the fucking championship. Nigga, stop talking about these damn points.

I can get you something. This is worth something. You better know what 39 gives you a lot. This is worth something. You watching. You are watching us play at the end of the year. Will Chamberlain. You are watching us play.

How many girls he sent you, man? A thousand. Huh? 10,000? 20. 20,000? You better know what 39 gets you a lot. Hey, listen. It gets you an early vacation. Huh? 10,000? Huh? 20. How many? 20,000? You better know what 39 gets you in life. Hey, listen.

It gets you an early vacation. Huh? It gets you an early vacation. All TV games. Hey, listen. Billboard. Gilbert and Brandon. Billboard.

Y'all answer y'all phone. Y'all not going to answer? Billboard. Y'all not going to answer? Hell no. Y'all not going to come to the finals again? Hey, Gilbert. I know you.

I know the season ended early for you. I know you feel a certain type of way. If I'm having 39. Listen. Listen. Hey. 39. Hey, Gilbert, I know the season ended early for you. I know you feel a certain type of way. If I'm having 39. Listen, listen. Hey, Brandon. Hey, Brandon. I got 300 million. Hey, Brandon.

You a billionaire. Hey, Brandon, I got you on speaker. What are you talking about? You Michael Jordan. Hey, Brandon, I got you on speaker. You had a good season this year. Yeah, you look good. Are you going to come to the finals?

Are you going to come to the finals and watch us? I'm going to sit courtside. Okay, thank you. I'm going to sit courtside. Because you played good this year. I'm going to sit courtside with the finals? Are you gonna come to the final and watch the same courtside? Okay, thank you. I'm gonna say cuz you play good. I'm gonna say course I with the bad look that none of you See no you better choose right I can't I can't get you one of these at the end of the city choose, right? I can't get you one of these But I'll buy a hoodie and I'll buy one of these hoodies. You're going to buy the hoodie because I'm on the hoodie. I buy a hoodie. I buy a hoodie. 39.

You can have it. Hey, look. Good vacation. Y'all go on an early vacation. Silly. Vacation. Championship. 39.

Do you know what 39 gets you? If I'm averaging 39, you are him on the planet. That means when you go places, you can go. You are the guy who didn on the planet. I'm you that means you go play you are not him on the planet Yes, you are a guy who didn't make it to the play Jordan was him on a planet average in 37 you are the guy that is two more points than Michael Jordan You are the guy that did not make it to the playoff. I'm the guy you are the guy that did not make it to the playoff I'm the guy so so most fans normally y'all ask us question but question for all the work in the chat so for all the work in the chat Hey, I do prefer the name who came off the bench and won the championship or the one who went 30

Soon as the game started outside he's sitting Before the game. There's no Rashad McCarron. He's going to do this. He comes on when the lights on. Hey, we just talked about USA, right? We just talked about Team USA. And we just talked about Gilbert Arenas accepting his role, right?

To win a gold medal. We just talked about all this except for your role right so i don't need to be having my name called first and being all 40 a game oh yeah oh you go ahead hey high five yeah you're the starter but look at the end of the game we get one of these on that same team 15 points on that same, I'm the one they featuring on that USA team while you coming up. And I'm clapping for you. I know, I know.

We not clapping for you though. But you are, but you are. I just know, man. But you are. If I average 39, if I average 39, that means I'm making 50 million a year. That means you're losing, Brandon. I'm making 50 million a year. That means you're losing though.

What are you playing the game for? There's a lot of mail Where are you losing? That's the mail work You'll think the work that's gonna be lining going to be females and he goes at a sausage party out there. Like, Gil, congratulations for your 39. Can you take a picture with me? Hey, Gil, can you take a picture with me? 39 a game, I'm taking your wife.

No, you ain't taking nobody's wife. What are you talking about? You ain't taking nobody's wife. When I pull up. When I pull up. Gil, she only watched the finals. Oh, my God. She only watched the finals, Gil.

When I pull up. She only watched the finals. Hey, got that Bugatti pull up. She don watched the finals, girl. She only watched the finals. Hey, she don't watch the regular season. She don't watch the regular season. Hey, she don't watch the regular season. She don't watch the regular season. That's it. That's it. She don't watch the regular season. Hey, who is this nigga? Oh, he average 39? What's that? What's that mean? What's up? Huh? Hey, all I got to say is What's that mean?

Hey, where is he at now, though? He's on vacation, baby. Don't worry about him. That's it. He's on vacation, baby. That's it. Hey, baby. Hey, baby.

He's on vacation with a bunch of guys in a club talking about some pop some bottles. Hey, we champions over here. What's your name, shorty? Because I know you know mine. Boo. That's all I got to say. I know you know here. What's your name, Shorty? Because I know you know mine.

That's all I got to say. I know you know mine. What's your name? On that note... Say it again. They only care about the one you think you don't got. On that note,

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We don't get to come up there. We don't get to come up there. And fuck it.