Gil's Arena - Gil's Arena Talks The Beef Between Draymond, CP3 and Anthony Edwards

Episode Date: July 27, 2023

Draymond, CP3 and Anthony Edwards All Want The Warriors Smoke as Gil's Arena dives into everything going on in the NBA. They get into Anthony Edwards wanting to go at the crown of Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors before diving into the internal beef between CP3 and Draymond that will follow the dubs all season long!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Chapters Show Start 0:00:00 Intro 0:01:07 Austin Reaves Signature Shoe 0:14:49 One Pair of Sneakers For the Rest of Your Life? 0:17:04 Better To Be Undrafted? 0:22:57 Best Undrafted Player You Faced 0:27:19 Hornets Sold For Billions 0:37:00 Jayson Tatum Says Real Hoopers Don't Load Manage 0:59:55 What's Winning In Sports? 1:10:14 Warriors Beef With CP3 1:35:21 Did You ever Fight with Teammates? 1:43:20 How Do Dubs Get The Most Out Of CP3? 1:46:03 Anthony Edwards Has Beef With Warriors 1:53:35 MostlyFans 1:57:50 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Are you serious? You really think that of me? Mmm. Yield, I can hit 170 yards with my 7-iron. I don't know what 7-iron is. I don't know. I know what I said. He's going to beat me so bad. That's crazy.

I wore that back yesterday, the black and red. You switched up today. This is blue though. This is the blue. This is the navy blue. You going to keep going. Welcome back to Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Buh-bye!

Back on this lovely Wednesday. Now, everybody in the chat, if you showed up early, you got to hear them talking golf and whatnot. Multi-talented. Our basketball show, but we do other shit as well. For sure. Here with the living legend Gilbert Arenas, we got Brandon Jennings back on the couch.

We got Rashad McCants in the crowd. We got Miko Grimes back here with us. Yeah. How everybody doing today? It's great. I want to know if Gil's gonna duck the fade again today. Let's get it off before we even start the show. Are you ducking the golf fade today? Because we have a tee time. First of all, you're trying to go golf at 8.30.

No, 4.25. Same shit. No, it's not. Yesterday, he said, I have a nap at 4.30. I said, okay, well, let's do it tomorrow. You said, okay, tomorrow I'll do it. But if I sleep at 4.30 yesterday, same thing today.

You told me. Why do you think I'm scared? You're scared. I don't know if this is feminist, but you're a woman. You're scared. It's not feminist at all. I don't know if that's scared? You're scared. Like, I don't know if this is feminist, but you're a woman. You're scared. You're a woman. It's not feminist at all. You're scared. I don't know if that's feminist or just... You're scared.

It's not. You're scared. You hit the ball every 30 yards. What the motherfucker am I scared of that for? So they come to play. I'm scared of one hit, 300 yards. It's going to take you all day to get there. It's going to take you all day to get 300 yards.

Nobody worry about you. So they come to play. It's gonna take her all day to get 300 yards. That's why. Let nobody worry about you. That's why. That's why they come to me. Look at the guy. Gonna have your little outfit. Gonna think she look cute out there. This is not my golf outfit, first of all. This is not my golf outfit.

This is improper golf gear, first of all. It's 100 degrees, y'all. Thank you. It's too hot to be out here. It's too hot. It's golfing. It's hot. Take your ass inside.

I need air conditioning. Let's just be honest. Raise your hand if you think she gonna beat me. I ain't seen you swing though, dude. I ain't seen you swing.

Huh? I ain't seen you swing though. But this one's in. But look, I wanted to meet it. Like if there was an in-between, I would do an in-between

because your golf swing was kind of... But did I hit it straight? You did. Okay, that's all I get. But this is the thing. You think because you can hit further than me, you can beat me, that's it? You know, there's like chipping, there's putting, there's other parts of the game.

Unless you're hitting hole-in-ones, you still got to complete the process of getting the ball in the hole. That sounds cute in theory, right? If I hit it 300 yards and it takes you three hits to do that. I can fuck up all day It's not gonna take me three I can fuck up all day before you get to the first hit. All right, i'm not worrying about it We on the par five it take you 25 shots to get there. I'm not working But what was the competition if you could hit it farther than her? No, we're playing a round of 18 best score That's a lot

Three hours I can't last nine Front nine then we can do whatever you want. I'm. I can't last nine. We can do front nine then. We can do whatever you want. I'm not losing to no... And we're not doing a hitting contest. I'm not losing to no chick and no sports. Then come catch the fade then. No sports.

Then don't dunk it. Tennis, nothing. Nothing. I don't care if I don't know how to play. I'm going to beat you in tennis so bad, Gilbert. I will put my hands on you in tennis. That's for sure. I will put my hands on you. We got the golf That's for sure. I will put my hands on you.

We got the golf pole up, but the chat wants to know why y'all two are dressed alike. I know! That's why I said he on my dick and everything. Damn! You already started. You just said that about the New York chicks. He on my body. He on my body. We already started. We coordinated.

Fuchsia green? Fuchsia green. This is Adidas turquoise and this is where the culture is a black-owned brand for the culture Okay, cool into it. What color is it? Sia get into what color same colors you know, it's not It's a light-skinned version of your okay cool. Damn Josiah let it be known The chat is 100% people say I'm going okay fine so then prove it prove them right thing what you scared Come do it then come do it Come get some whoa excuse me that simple

I flew out here with my clubs to shut you up so don't make me that flew all the way from Florida with 12 clubs for nothing

you got all 12 all 12 in my car right now I just used 3 then let's go I don't need 12 then let's go I don't even take the bag

I just grab my shit just hold it with me. Let me get this one. That looks like him. He looks like he carried three balls. I can see Kim having three and all the things in his pocket. I don't need all that extra shit. Which one not, man? Keep these three right here.

That's fine. I'm new. I'm new at golf. I can admit that. I'm brand new. I'm learning. But what I do know is... You're the type to get the three. I'm new. I'm new at golf. I can admit that. I'm brand new. I'm learning. But what I do know is... You're the type to get the three.

Okay. No, no, no, no. You said you could beat me. You called me trash in the group chat. You said I'm sorry and I'm trash. And you posted me trying to shade me, so come get the fame. First of all, you posted you. You posted me in the group chat, though. It was your Instagram. Yes.

Public. Yes. You was trash as fuck damn You swung hardest and hard as hell with four feet you allow him to troll you four feet So come meet me then all right come beat me 30 another challenge all right They got Challenge I forgive you got the one spot right over there off. I want something very close to him I want the bowling favorite shoot. No you don't I want the bowling favorite Oh, yeah, he nice. Oh, yeah, he nice. No, no, no. I know he nice. He nice McKinnon is nice I'm nice though. No, I'm talking about like set it up

I Just went to uh, I just went to pins the other day and yeah pins in Hollywood I guess they had a celebrity ranking first time already ranked eighth Just went once oh Stop going to pins cuz it was like but you ain't up there. I didn't see you Nick. They had to take me. They took me down. They took me down. They had to take me down. The dude that was at Penn was at the new place, Bolleria, there on... Yo. I'm not going to front though. He was like, you know, McKenzie's nice though.

He greeted me like, King, let's see. Haven't seen you in so long. He's like, I moved up here. I said, me too, man. I need to kick me out. I could. Yo, McKenzie's nice. I'm not going to front.

No, but Gil's lying too. We're going to front. We're going to front. All right. All right. I'm go McKesson's nice. They're not gonna front now, but you'll find to get heat Nothing he says I played against you know Gigi Gigi's a Black this is you beat her black and you beat her world champ. So you beat I'm all gold and you beat a Jordan fuck Yeah, she's a girl You better play oh my god, we do everything whoo everything everything We get in the girls arena decathlon crack we got a lot of shit we got it I'm not I'm not we getting it correct I'm not losing to no woman

Driving swimming to no woman and nothing. Driving, swimming, nothing. Halo, nothing. Serena want to play tennis. I start losing, I'm hurt. So it's not a win. It's not a win. That's so wet. That's all he's going to do.

Watch tomorrow, chat. She's going to be sitting right there, hot as a motherfucker. She's going to have like plus, minus minus minus 200 It's gonna be some shit like that The score goes but this is the thing if you beat me cool you beat me but if you lose no no Maybe if I beat you is cool He beats you, it's a consequence. Yeah, yeah, he can talk his shit. He can talk his shit.

But what I'm saying is, if you lose to me... I'm not losing no girl. You're going to look real crazy. Fact. Then don't. Then don't. Today. Fourth day.

Darrell's going to be there, too. After I win, you're going to have to do push-ups for... I'm not doing push-ups. I'll cook for you and your family or something. I'm not doing push-ups. I'm going for the chat. The chat. You got to do push-ups for the chat.

I'm not doing push-ups. Oh, shit. You can't do push-ups. You got the push-ups for the chat? We're not doing push-ups. Oh, shit. You can't do push-ups. All right. I can do push-ups. I can be her in that, too. Damn. I can do push-ups,

but I have a... I have a... No, I'm being... How the fuck are you supposed to swing when you need your back? Wow. No, no, no, no. There's a technique in push-ups

from when I got arrested from the police that I have a slip disc from it. And you think you're going to beat me? Yes. In golfing? It doesn't bother me when I play golf. I think I hurt my back again.

No, I won't make any excuses. I think I need a bacchiato. I won't make any excuses. All right, 4.30, y'all. 4.30. Let's go. Let's get into the show. Here's what we got cooking today. Anthony Edwards wants smoke with the Warriors, but is he poking the wrong bear?

At least one NBA superstar isn't a fan of low management, but will the NBA's new CBA efforts to stop it actually work? And would you rather go in the second round or undrafted if you could pick the team that you get to play for? But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already Download the app use promo code gills arena. They'll match your first deposit up to $100 and y'all know we do mostly fans

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And we may use it and you get that $50 bonus. Sounds like a win to me. All you gotta do is just download the underdog fantasy app. We got FIFA cracking right now WNBA NFL about to start college a lot of good shit going on. So salute to those underdog fantasy people and real quick We did the poll Who is in a golf match 100 versus zero? Okay, you got 56 percent Miko. You got 43 percent Yeah, she just said she'll. I just posted the other day.

She just said she need a backyard. No, I did not. I said push-ups make my slip disc hurt. I did not say swing a golf club. I just heard you. Gil, all I want you to know is when I posted myself the sorry video I posted, I am way better than that now, just so you know. Okay.

Way better than that. She's been practicing. It's like four days ago. I've been practicing. No, I posted that I'm way better than that now, just so you know. Way better than that. I've been practicing. No, I posted that four days ago. That happened a month ago. Just so clear. She can hit 16 feet now. And that was my very first time ever playing golf. No lessons, no nothing. So of course I was green.

Alright, alright. Let's chat. Put that poll back up there. You got all the information. Yeah. She just started last month. And then I'm going to post myself hitting the ball now. No, no. She just started last month. Now redo that. It should be 100 to 0. We're still waiting for votes from Nevada, from Arizona, from

Georgia. Some issues with the voting machines. Hey, the balance is in. Balance. Balance. I already got 27% already. I'm good. Last month. I'm good. As always, if you want to watch this show, you cannot pull up to YouTube, which make sure you do because that helps our numbers the best, helps us increase our back.

See, that's better. But go ahead. You can listen to it on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts from. Support the show. If you're driving to work, you don't want to watch the video, you got the kids in the car, go ahead and turn it on. Yes, we curse, but your kids need to learn that anyway. So now let's talk a little bit about friend of the program Austin Reeves

So he's making the most of his Lakers experience. He got the lemon daddy billboard Let Levi's Levi's. Levi's. Lululemon. Lululemon. The wrong Lemon Daddy. Lemon Daddy. LemonDaddy's lit. Y'all hate him. It's him.

It's Austin Reeves. Y'all talking, y'all naming shit for better players. Jermaine, I got a Laker jersey on. I need all those, all those three. I got a Laker and I got 54. So he the wrong Lemon. That was my bad. That was my bad.

Wrong Lemon. I was thinking Clipper. Yeah, he got the Laker jersey on. My bad. So let's talk about some other stuff Austin Reeves is doing. After going undrafted just a few years ago, signed a four-year, $54 million deal with the Lakers this offseason. Now he's dropping his own signature shoe with Chinese company Rigorur as their first NBA

adorer. So we got a picture. The AR1 ice cream editions. They pink? Yeah. Wait, yo, what's the company called? Neurop believe uh rigmarole rigmarole they gotta be getting him i mean they don't look their shoes look cool i mean they look cool it's really not about the looks though it's about when you put them on like i'm just glad it's an art not an end this is like you they did you get them

for a barbie and put them on the Barbie feet. On the Barbie feet. They are cute, though. Only 2,000 pairs will be available worldwide. The shoe is currently priced at a reasonable $100. So, yeah, I'm going to go around the crew. Y'all rocking with these AR1 ice creams? I mean, for $100?

I'm not buying. Not that colorway. I saw another colorway. I saw a purple one that you had that was better. But the purple ones, yeah, I would. I'm not buying. $100. Reasonable. They look good. They look cute. They look more like a girl's shoe. I saw a purple one that you had that was better, but the purple ones, yeah, I would. I'm not buying it, but... Reasonable. They look good. They look cute. They look more like a girl's shoe. I'm not going to lie, but...

They're cute. I'm rolling with Lemon Daddy. The Lemon Daddy billboard. Lemon Daddy... The Lemon Daddy color? Give me the... You should have had yellow. You should have had yellow.

The yellow-purple colorway. Where does the ice cream come from? I think it's just the colors of it all. China? I mean, China loves ice cream. I mean, does he love ice cream? Maybe. He had to sign off on that shit.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He must have had to love ice cream. Who don't? Negro-politan. Yeah, but. The multi-flavor? The chocolate, the vanilla? Summer holiday?

I mean, for China, but it's like a Hello's like, it look like a Hello Kitty type stuff. Hello Kitty. That's cool. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. So let's talk about just. That move.

It's probably gelato. Who's shoes in general, if you could only hoop in one pair of shoes for your entire basketball career, which shoes you picking? Gil Restomans. 16 colorways. Retro. Hottest thing moving in them streets. I'm doing my signature shoes the bloodlines Who the bloodlines I know I had two signature shoes. No, I know you had to but okay first one We're like ice cool the black ice. Oh, yeah, I school you said what were you in high school? Oh kill. Yeah

Okay, were you wearing? I was wearing Jordan. No. Uh-oh. He said you were wearing the Gills. Oh, no. I was wearing... Okay. You were wearing them Gills.

Yeah. I was wearing the Gills. I was wearing the Gills. I was wearing the Gills for sure. For sure. Hell yeah. Yeah. I was wearing the Gills, but I would definitely wear mine.

Fuck. Initially, I would say my Kobe's, right? The Kobe's, but the LeBron ones were the best. You started some shit. You started some shit in the chat. Yeah, it was the best shoe that I ever wore. I'm not going to front. The LeBron ones.

Comfortable as fuck, light as fuck. Yeah. It was like that runner, trainer. Yes. This is when, you know, LeBron was one of my guys then. So not no more? Because he wore the fucking shirt

and the Lakers and the whole transition over to... You know what? That's the whole Lakers shit. He just stayed with Cleveland, man. We just been cool. Nigga, you brought your ass over here. The crown.

Y'all both like crowns. Yeah, but man... The LeBron ones was cold. That's my two. The LeBron ones are dope. There's some Kyrie's too that'll trickle in there too, but the LeBron 1s was cold. That's my two. The LeBron 1s are dope. There's some Kyrie's too that'll trickle in there too, but the LeBron 1s was classic. The Steph 3s was cold as fuck, but the LeBron 1s was...

And then what were your favorite pair of shoes growing up besides your own shoe, Gil? Before you had your own... I'm glad you said it because I was about to say it. I already know. Okay, going on again. The pennies. Ooh. The pennies. The pennies. Growing up? The all white joints. Like growing up, like as a kid? Yeah, when you were coming up. Which ones?

The first ones? I think it was the twos. Wait a minute. The funny looking ones? How old were you when the pennies came out? I was in high school. Oh, okay. Yeah. Damn, y'all so young. The all-white was there, and came back out with those. We all about the same age. I forget all y'all so young. We was all doing the same shit. Those are the only ones that hasn't been re-released,

the all-white joints. With the little bubble. I think since we were sponsored by Reebok, I would have to go to S. Doc Carter's. OK. Because Jamal Crawford used to wear them. And the S. Doc Carter's was hard with the strap. It was high top with the strap. It said S. Doc Carter on the. Okay. Because Jamal Crawford used to wear them. Wow. And the S.Doc Carter's was hard with the strap. It was high top with the strap.

It said S.Doc Carter on the top. It was hard. Damn. Reebok. What happened to Reebok? They still around? My favorite was the AIs with the DMX bubbles on the bottom. Money looking joints, red and white.

I still have those. Was those the answers? Yeah. I still have those. The answers. I think it was the These were the Threes they got threes when he did we had the commercial. Hmm. Legit a kiss. No, not that one when he had his own commercial He made up his own That commercial, okay. Okay. He had those those are my favorites right there

Well, I'm gonna age myself and say when I was in high school, I loved playing in the Scottie Pippens. I thought you were going to say Chucks. You said it. Okay, the Scottie Pippens. Chuck Barkley. I played in the Scottie Pippens in high school when I was in my... Remember when Chuck came out with the sneakers? That's not everybody.

That's the same era. Scotties. I was in high school. Gary Payton, the gloves. Yeah. Who got the best? Jason Kidds. Who got the best hoop shoe commercial? Iverson.

Iverson. Nah. Who got the best? Funk Police. Y'all remember that joint? It was KG and Gary Payton. And White Chocolate? That's the one I was thinking about.

Was that the Funk Police? That one. No, it was just them two. Funk Police the Funk Police? That one. I think. No, it was just them two. Funk Police, right? Where they're going, like people who took... Penny Hardaway had the greatest.

Oh, yeah. Penny Hardaway. Penny? Little Penny? Little Penny? I don't know. I like the one... Iverson's commercial was dope, too.

I don't know. I like the one with Iverson when he was his elf. Yes. Yes. And like every... Like he was walking in the club. He was rolling in the Bentley.

He was playing. He was looking at himself going through the city. They don't do commercials like that no no no creativity is down right now but the AI and Jadakiss shit in the booth in the studio yeah I mean the burst but the best basketball commercial all time was that like Lamar Odom. The dribbling one. The Nike one? That was Nike up-tempo. They all passed to each other.

That was the up-tempo shit. I just saw that recently on Instagram. That just popped up. It was fire. Ron with Bernie Mac when they was in church. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that shit was fire. He was like, the chosen one.

He asked the court vision. He hit the court vision. So let's talk about another side of Reeves. So Reeves made an appearance on All the Smoke. Reeves at least shed some light on how he ended up with the Lakers. Had the opportunity to get drafted by the Pistons. No Detroit slander, as Matt Barnes found out. The city was coming for you, Gil.

Then they just switch it off and put all that energy on Matt. Wait, what happened? You got to watch this. Wait, what happened? So Matt was clowning the Pistons, but Detroit thought he was talking about them. So he had to make a video apologizing. Damn. Don't fuck with Detroit.

What is up with Detroit? I don't know. Detroit, we love your city. Why y'all with Detroit? We love Detroit. But why are they so aggressive? Everybody that's hating on Detroit, I want y'all to wear a cardiogram. That's what makes it funny.

Like, why do you have to? It ain't like Detroit's going to come to you. Like, just don't go to Detroit. They're not going in. There's two crazy fan base. Detroit and Toronto Raptors. Why? Toronto's in another country.

I know, but you talk about them, they hot. Canadians, boy, they on your head. They on your head for real. But Reeves had the opportunity to get drafted by the Pistons, said he was cool at the 42nd pick, opted to go undrafted. We've seen that it worked out for him, but Just asking all y'all is it better to get drafted in second round or better yourself and go? Undrafted and pick the team you want to go to oh

Those are the only two options wait well So like when you second round or like or say no Guarantee to make a team undrafted don't want to get drag out a bet on yourself But you have the option of 29 other teams that you ready to get paid But I guess for him if he knew he was already gonna If he was gonna he had an option to go to I think Milwaukee or the Lakers he picked the Lakers No disrespect to Milwaukee, but I probably would have made that same choice. But think about it, though. That could mess up your career, getting drafted by a team that, first of all, doesn't even

need you. You don't fit their system, their scheme. If you know your game, and you've watched the other teams, and you're like, there's no way I'm going to make it on this team. I'm going to be off. You would still just say, fuck it, I'm just going to get respect. The fight that you have to undraft it is so uncertain.

Like, the second round pick, you're on the team, you're in the facility, you get to meet everybody, they get to see you. All that shit is already included. The undrafted shit is like, who the fuck is this nigga? No, think about we just came from Summer League. Those are all undrafted people. All undrafted, yeah. The only person that's guaranteed is the one who got drafted man for those two, but it's it

I mean, you know summer league as the days go on Generally the higher draft the guys they'll stop playing and give these undrafted guys a chance But it seems like those teams are formulated with like alright give our draft the dudes the rock We're running everything through them undrafted niggas. You may not play the first couple games then once it gets a little Water down towards the end then y'all get that run, but would you take that risk or that gamble? No, I mean, I guess if you already know that a team is looking for you all day I wish we had a pick in the second round. Exactly then that makes sense to say hey don't pick me Right, you know, I want to go undrafted just so I can go to that that team that makes sense. But the

That's what he already had to have some heads up that teams wanted him. And you got to know your skill level. You know you can fight for it. You know there are guys that you know you can beat out. It's got to be that confidence level, undrafted-wise, like going into camp, going into mini-camp.

It's a bunch of shit you got to fucking do. And you got to win over the coaches, the assistant coaches, the scouts. Yeah, that's a lot. I mean, but you know kudos to him bet on himself Is the only person ever that's ever done that Oh Fred Van Fleet I think we're down. I don't know if you turned it Being drafted like now there was something the draft ratio I think I was it was the clutch God, but he went later because he were basically they were telling teams Don't draft him which is weird to me. We talked about player empowerment. It's like Dave

You're already coming in flexing on niggas like I know so Austin Reeves got undrafted undrafted To that for you. He was getting drafted. He would have got drafted right? Yeah He said I'm cool the difference that I think second round they could sign you to that the two-year with the two player options They can lock you up for four so you can can get to that. If you're good, you can get to that second field. I mean, he's white. So, I mean, he's going to have a better chance than all of us. You know what I'm saying? Not in the NBA.

Yeah. They got your rights. Basically, they just get your rights, though. If you get second round, they can just send you to the G. I think back in the day, Danny Ferry told the Clippers, like, I'm good. No, what I'm saying is, who allowed the second round... I know they're going to blame me, then Carlos Boozer. You are definitely going to blame me.

As long as they blame me, then you're going to blame Carlos Boozer for that fast start as a second rounder. So now, instead of having one-year and two-year deals, and you can hit the money, they're actually putting four-year Contracts on second rounders. They have an option for the four but you can but what I'm saying is if you're talented You have a choice. Yeah, if you're talented, they're gonna say oh I can like you up before you right Yeah, I do Know yeah, I mean I think you can still negotiate the two like you can try But for some dudes like what I'd rather have that for a guaranteed bread even if it's good that's like you know it's a it's definitely a question like you were saying a lot of the talent they see and

coming out of the second rounds they knowing that the talent is in the second rounds like they're being overlooked so lock and you win four years is on a development deal it's almost like a development deal yeah it's just it's just that sucks yeah cuz you're locking me in as a first rounder. As if you were, right. Like, nah. Give me back the second round options. Four years, two years, I take that.

Yeah. All right? Let me get out my contract, get on up in there. Get on up in there. So, NBA, we've seen a lot of underdogs go undrafted. Bruce Bowen, Ben Wallace, FVV, John Starks, to name mm-hmm y'all see some guys that beat the odds and have successful careers who's the best undrafted player that you played against played against yeah or with or the best which one is it is it played against yeah during your time or

you just give me historically who's the... Played against? Undrafted? I don't know who went undrafted. I mean, the best undrafted player... What's about Ben Wallace? I mean, the best... Ben Wallace is probably the best undrafted athlete. Yeah, Ben Wallace. Did you know he was the second rounder?

He was drafted. They all got drafted. I put Ben Wallace as the best I played against. So here's a list of undrafted players. You got Connie Hawkins back in the day who was a legend, but he had already played a ton of pro ball before he got on in the league. They blackballed him. Shady shit.

Ben Wallace, John Starks, Roger Bell, Bruce Bowen, Avery Johnson, Darryl Armstrong, Brad Miller, FVV, Udonis Haslam, Jose Calderon, David Wesley, Lynn Sanity, Wes Matthews, Joe Ingles, Earl Boykins, Kent Basemore, J.J. Barea, Reggie Evans. Earl Boykins and Jeremy Lin. The best player.J. Barea, Reggie Evans. Earl Boykins and Jeremy Lin. The best player that I think would be Ben Wallace. Okay. He was so...

His dominance. The best second-round player out of that group would be Haslam. A undrafted guy? 20 years, three championships. Yeah. You did. I might say, yeah, we all played against him. He might not be the Hall of Famer, but I mean 20 years here three

I mean this is greater JJ Barea and Armstrong. I think it's the best I played against Armstrong was a beast and we ain't playing nobody played against Van Fleet I'm just telling you sign the highest deal I like Fred. Fred, you know what? Ain't nothing wrong with Fred. You talked a lot of shit. You ain't like, you don't like Fred. I didn't talk nothing about Fred.

You said some stuff about Fred. No, I said Fred over Gabe. Remember we was talking about, oh, he like Gabe. Oh, he wanted Gabe. No, I said he should get his money. I just didn't like Houston paying that kind of money with all those young guys Why would you need Fred when he's a champion? I know but I got to start him. Okay for that money That's why I'm an NBA champion. I deserve to come over here. I'm a dog. No, you can have your money

I don't want you to I got young players that I'm trying to know I am starting still But he's not old you don't have that. That's not old though. You seen like you got these young players. He's still old, though. But he's not old. You don't have that. That's what I said. He's not old, though. You're saying, like, you got these young players. He's not old. He's 29, 30. That's not old, Gil. I just drafted another guard at 20. Cam Whitmore. I just drafted a 20-year-old that plays point.

But that's not old. You're saying that if he's old. Cool. My starting point without Fred. 21. 19. Unproven. 20.

Unproven. 21. 20. Unproven. 21. My whole team is unproven. 20. 21. 20. 21. My whole team is unproven. So I want them to play and learn. So I don't want to pay 140 million because I got to start them. So I said I would have paid Gabe 33 and Gabe can come off the bench to these young guys.

Wow. That's so disrespectful. He's 33 million. That's so disrespectful. I got a vet. I got a veteran. We already seen what it is. Now imagine you're the fifth pick. You're the fifth pick of got a vet. I got a veteran. We already seen what it is the last two years. Now imagine you're the fifth pick. You're the fifth pick of the draft. You're the point guard. And then I just paid Fred to come

play in front of you. Now you're coming off the bench. It's business. Now in five years. He's unproven. He hasn't played a single tick. You don't even know if he's going to be able to do what you need done. But you're the fifth pick. So think about yourself. Okay, I hear you.

So now you have a guy that's got paid five years. So take his spot. 140. Ain't no taking his spot. Ain't no taking no spot, sweetheart. Ain't no taking no spot. Five years, you're going to be sick. I mean, but every guy that's picked in the lottery don't start.

Yes, they don't always start. They don't always produce. Like, they don't, yeah. They don't always automatically produce. Because there's a veteran I just paid 140. Yeah. That was the point. That's what he's saying you said. I said you can have you I want you tells me the team Don't believe he that nigga then if they draft like that He's saying if you gave Vincent the money

You can bring him off the bench and allow these young fellas to have the experience of getting there already So what I already saw what it looked like these last years I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pay a hundred and forty to have the same record. Yeah, we don't know that We don't know. No, no, no, we'll see like we'll see so I he can have his money I just was me. I want my young players to go through two three years Cuz you're gonna lose this and you go it's the same outcome. Well, it's like heaven It's like having LeBron James, Carmelo, D-Wade, Bosh, learning how to win

or you put Darko on a team where he has to sit behind Ben Wallace, Rasheed Wallace, Dice. Learn. Learn. Yeah, you learned. Out of the league. You wasn't ready. The Europeans wasn't ready then. They're ready now though. How the fuck you gonna be ready?

You never played. The Europeans is ready now. You never played. How the fuck you gonna be ready? The Europeans are ready now. You never played. The Europeans is ready now. You never played. How you gonna be ready doing this? The Europeans is ready now, though. So your mind is better to come in a situation where you can play right away.

Right, right. Get your ass whooped. For some people. For some people. Seth didn't come right in and play. Yeah, he did. No, he did not.

He didn't start it. He did not start right away. No, he did not. He did not start right away. No, he did not. Huh? Glad we got Google. He did not start right away. Steph did not start right away. No, no, no. You finished what you did. No, I don't think he did not start right away, and no we did not huh let me go Google He did not start right away step. I'm looking at not start right away. No no no you finished

I remember that I 45 I know who started yeah, he probably started some game, but what I'm saying he didn't start in the beginning like that He wasn't starting right away first season 2009 2010 80 games 77 starts 36 minutes a game. That man, stat man, yeah, that's me. Yeah, that's me. I don't remember him.

I mean, so the first part, I mean, he just started against the game when I played. Yeah, you did. Yeah, I don't remember him starting all the games. No, he didn't. Let me tell you. 77 games he started out of 82. You was too busy scoring. You don't know who was guarding you.

No, I didn't say he was. No, I don't think he started that game. There was two light-skinned boys out there. I don't remember him starting all the games. No, I think Steph came off the bench that game. That was him and Monte. Monte was the two. I think Steph came off the bench that game. Yeah, I don't remember him.

I didn't know he started out that game. That was just game seven, right? We're going to find out. That's why we got the internet. Mm-mm-mm-mm. But I don't think in the beginning he was starting. Y'all let Gil be right. Y'all let Gil be right, man.

Y'all building up some momentum for this nigga. Y'all letting this nigga be right there. He building up his confidence. He probably didn't start against you, but he was... That's what I'm saying. He only didn't start three games the whole season, though. Huh? He only didn't start three games. Okay, so that's what I'm saying.

Six. Right? No, he only... You're saying he didn't come in starting, and he's like, nah, the nigga came and he started. He only missed non-start three only three games six three He played 80 games every day and he started 77 80

There's still two games and he did yeah that game he didn't start he came off the bench. Yeah, thank you. That's what I mean Thank you. No, I'm the same But there's 80 games. He only didn't start three. But we don't watch every game. I'm just telling you certain games that I remember in that first season, he didn't start all three. It's going to be three games. Okay, well.

So whatever three games you watched. Well, I didn't watch. Okay. There's only three, all right? Britt was watching. Britt was the one that said he wasn't going to watch. So we know Milwaukee's won, then there's only two other ones out of the next 79 games. Two of them was probably earlier.

That's how you remember, Steph. You're the nigga that came off the bench. But look, we got to go back to the point. Go back to the point. You got to go back to the point is young fellas got to come in. In who? In who? And that's just what Steph did.

He came in and he... So what does it mean then when a front office goes and gives a player 130 million and you have these young players, what does that mean from the front office? What does it mean? They stupid. That's what happened with Monte. They gave Monte that money, they drafted Steph and started Steph. Then they got his ass up out of there.

Is the age of the situation too, Steph, a little bit older when he comes in? James Harden didn't start coming in. Six man forever. Six man forever. James Harden didn't start coming in. Six man forever. And look how he turned out. So sometimes- But he played. He definitely played. Six man forever. And look how he turned out. So sometimes he played.

He definitely played. But look who's he coming in for. Who? Who's that? The defensive player. Are we going to do an NBA spelling bee? OK, how about this? Imagine being a 1, 2, 3, right?

And you get drafted to the Suns. It's your career. What will you do? Yeah, because that's tough. You have to go out there and actually get reps in to see what works, right? Because practice doesn't tell you if you're good or not because you're not practicing against anybody. Yeah, I'm not practicing against you hard.

Perfect example, Cam Thomas, up in Brooklyn. He had to play behind those guys that was in Brooklyn, KD, all those guys. And when they left, he got his chance. It was like what, 40? 40, 43. 40, 40. Got his shit on. So thank God. Okay, but you know where that came from though? What? That came from who he's around.

No, he came for opportunity when them niggas left. I mean, but I'm in the gym with the with some of the greatest players ever every day You know, I am got game though. No way doing what we plan we hope you in practice Kind of practice you had oh, yes, guys. Yeah Yeah, I mean I mean I had Stan van we practice so it is me in practice. Did you practice, Gil? This is me in practice. Are we running or not? Are we running up and down five on five? Nope.

Nope. Get some shots up. All right, man. I'm about to go to the training room. Get some shots. Those are some good golf shoes. Get some shots up. Those are some good golf shoes.

These are the ones you're going to get your ass whipped in. Yeah. Gil, we all need the Adidas plug. I'm going to be honest. You've been holding out on us a little bit. What's the promo code? Huh? No, it's just something simple.

The code you got to put at the end. I got three. One, one, one. One, one, one. One, one, one. That is a lot of shit in here. Let's keep this thing moving. We got to talk about arguably the second greatest basketball player of all time.

So NBA Board of Governors approved the sale of the Hornets this weekend with a vote of 29 to 1. Everyone but eternal hater James Dolan approved the sale. Oh, my God. That nigga just... He's just a... I mean, every day. I don't care what it is. Who's the second...

Hold on. What's the con? You said the second greatest... He said arguably the second? Arguably. Arguably. This is a debate. We'll talk about it at another point. Wait. Arguably what? What hold on what's the con you said the second group? He said arguably the second arguably Wait arguably what the second greatest player of all time Jordan I'm gonna leave them Jordan fans alone Jordan fans is only people in the chat paying attention

The sale any MJ's 13-year run is the team's majority owner and as the only black owner in the league, which I think is a little bit more interesting. We back... We out the league now. So during Jordan's tenure, the Hornets only made three playoff appearances, never won a playoff series, combined record of 423 and 600. They finished last season 27-55.

Sounds about right. The only title they do own is for the worst season in NBA history when they finished 7-59 back in the lockout short in 2012 season. That team lost 23 straight games at one point, which was an homage. 23. That's sick. 23.

But we got to talk about the other side. On the business front, MJ learned you can make big cash being trash. Trash? On the team is a profit. profit for 275 million in 2010 So sold them for I think a three billion dollar valuation to an ownership group that includes J Cole as a minority owner So when we talk about MJ his legacy Does it his Hornets ownership tarnishes legacy at all? No Selling you $3 billion?

$3 billion? That might be better than the six rings. He made $2,700,000,000. He made. You mean as a player legacy? We just look at his basketball. No. There's still a line wrapped around buildings

to buy his shoe. I don't think there's anything that could tarnish. Nothing at this He had to murder somebody or like do something crazy I even know not even that or his son get a girl pregnant you get a little pippin That's not oh that would be safe. I'm gonna be a Jordan legacy. Could be a little Jordan Listen, there's gonna be a little Jordan. There's gonna be a little pippin Jordan. What's so funny?

He proved he proved the point that I always made I said I Asked the owner I said If you had a team right and you have the team for ten years you only have it for ten years you win 500 you win five rings in the ten years and you made five hundred million or No rings and you make two billion. Which one do you take? 2 billion every time. 2 billion every time. Yeah, good business.

What is the ring worth? Nothing. Tell my friends, oh, I won a championship. While the other one's sitting there with 2 billion buying multiple teams now. Yeah. And that's- Well, you know- Now look at your favorite team and you wonder why they don't win

Mmm, but do you see that video with um, Cam Newton at training camp and those little young white kids or? truck like they just like trashing them like attacking them attacking attacking he finally comes over to the sideline is talking to them and They was like we have the same amount of rings as you and he was like but your bank account is not the same As mine you guys whenever in doubt because I see your bank account is not the same as mine. You can always, whenever in doubt, because I see a lot of people in the chat hating right now, you can always call somebody broke. Yeah. As long as they're broker than you.

Yeah. But it's what you, like, I don't think that the fans or people that watch the game realize this is business. It's for the fan, like, you want your team, that you're buying jerseys and tickets and spending your time with and, you know, using your kids' college tuition to support. You want them to win, but in reality, this is a business.

Win or lose, these owners are making money. Yeah. Yeah, I heard the owners, they pay. Some of them don't even care about winning because you got to pay for the parade. You got to pay for all that. It's like you got to pay for so much stuff. Jason, I'm going to get his bread.

In reality, there's 30 teams. Five teams want to, no, five teams want rings. Right? Five teams want rings. Then you got 15 teams that just want to make the playoffs. The other team teams don't give two shits about none of it because the city they're in makes money no matter what. New York Knicks, when that building opens, he's making a million dollars. He don't give a fuck about winning or losing. There

are certain teams, their fan base is the fan base. So they, no matter, they open that door, the fans are coming in no matter what Raiders the Raiders Raiders Wasn't What was it Michael Jordan's expectation as an owner to win because you were a winner as a player? No, no I'm just I'm just Speculate like he may not give a fuck about Charlotte, but I'm just saying like Michael Jordan's the owner That should be what why are we not winning? That's exactly why I feel like he was the owner. Michael Jordan's not coming down and playing.

I feel like that's exactly why he was the owner. Because Jerry West, he was, you know... First of all, we've seen his picks. We realize he don't see... Terrible. Hey, hey, hey. Terrible. Hey, hey, hey.

Terrible. You stop it. No, no, I'm saying, no, you have Morris. You have Morris, Peter... Morris, right? Yeah. What was all those Charlotte charters pigs Morris? He picked Frank Aminsky over or Devin Booker 2015

Embarrassed because what he's looking what the problem with MJ was this When he talks about his dominance and his greatness He talks about what he taught himself, which is fundamentals, right? Fundamentals. So he's looking at everybody in the draft who has the fundamentals that he had. He doesn't take in the fucking gift that he was born with, right?

So when he's evaluating these people, he's looking at the little details, not realizing after they finish all that shit, what's going to happen? They can't jump 46 inch. They can't do any of that. So you're taking away, you're missing out

all of what you naturally had, and you're picking these stupid-ass players. I feel like Mike honestly believed in all those picks. No, he did. He wouldn't have been sitting his ass down there. He was sitting his ass down there. That's what makes him a bad GM. He, he did. He wouldn't have been sitting his ass down there. He was sitting his ass down there. That's what makes him a bad GM.

He was down there. He was mad as fuck every fucking game. Like, these motherfuckers can't play these. And he picked them. And it's like, yeah, you picked these niggas.

Yes, I mean. What did you pick these niggas for? You're going to be mad. I knew he was already fucked up. I mean, look at his Georgia. Look at the people he signed to Rock Georgia. Yes, yes.

Not to me. To you. He called you Randy Brown? He said I reminded him of Randy Brown. Oh, he said reminded. No, he went up to you like, what's up, Randy? Same shit. A lot of people that are actually talents that can play are not good coaches

or not good choice, like, GMs. Like, just because you can play doesn't mean you can coach or you can pick talent. Just like if you're a good GM, that doesn't mean you can actually play the game. You have to figure out where your lane is. He should have just been an owner and allowed somebody else to handle that. So where did MJ go wrong, though? Was it looking at the on-the-court talent, or should he have been taking them off the

court? Let's drink some tequila, play cards on that. No, no. You can come back to that. What he valued, what he thought that what made him great which yeah, it did make you great but you still had this gift that you were born with so you're looking at these players without the gift and they're there they're Pick you're picking them on what you taught yourself versus what you had So if you're a Bugatti and then you change all the little details of the car and then you're like, oh this guy is very good

At details, but it's a Honda And then you change all the little details of the car and then you're like, oh this guy is very good at details But it's a Honda Like you find a Bugatti and put the details in it, too. Let me ask you this then if The Clippers sold at what to me right and we look at that valuation We say damn if the Clippers sold at that these other teams are gonna sell it So if the Clippers sold at the same as Charlotte Did Michael Jordan really win? these other teams are going to sell it. So if the Clippers sold it the same as Charlotte, did Michael Jordan really win?

I thought it was $3 billion. He got an extra billion. So if he gets sold at $3 billion and everybody else is up at about $5, $6, $7, Mike is at the bottom tier as far as buying low, getting at $3, and $3 or $2 where Ballmer came in in as the Clippers it's like these are bottom tier teams in the league right that bomber was nothing 2014 and that too even at that point so you look at you look like a dollar forex on whatever the team was valued at right North Carolina being his staple yeah should have brought a lot more value for

him because there's no care line when did he buy it, though? 100? Well, how much he bought it for? 275. 275? That's a win. No, no, no. I'm not saying it's not a win.

I'm just saying, like, the valuation of... We'll have an MJ. But this is another question. He should have brought it up higher. If he was in Chicago. If he was in Chicago. If he was Chicago Bulls. He would have won higher.

That's what I'm saying. But, like, North Carolina, drafting a bunch of North Carolina players, but just not panning out to wins. If he was winning in Charlotte, it would have changed, bro. Same amount. No way. No way. But you know, it's the city.

It's the market. It's the city. Memphis, all of those cities. It's the city. Cleveland. Cleveland. Cleveland went up. But you know it's wild when the Hornets. LeBron, Cleveland went up, but you know as well when the line Cleveland went up

I read went up like That's what I just said if Charlotte's winning they're going up Didn't go up as like that though we up Booming Cleveland people wasn't going to Cleveland when they asked bro because it was a medical center It was the medical mecca. So to add those two things. The Cavs are worth $2 billion. Right now, because there's no nothing right now. The valuation went down.

Think about the teams. Cavs, $2 billion. SAC, $2 billion. Utah, $2 billion. Spurs, $2 billion. Spurs only worth $2 billion? All of those are bottom tier. Bottom tier cities.

Teams, too. Cities. Sacramento went to. That's your cities. Yeah City's but before this year sack was the bottom tier. It was the worst team in the league for years New York Nick bottom feeding team every year six billion It's the city. So it's a market Golden State seven billion Lakers six billion Chicago four billion Boston for the Clippers 4 billion. So Brooklyn 3 It's the it's the city's I think it's a mix of both So but you mentioned before that there's five teams that actually want to win the championship, right? So is winning truly a measure of success for an NBA franchise?

With that in mind, okay, you're New York Knicks, right? You haven't even thought about winning. You're the second highest. What makes you want to win? Who cares? Almost. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Almost. You want to win, but if you don't, it's not... Go to say that's for...

New York. Think about it. People in New York, their fans care more than the owner. You're the owner. Go to say he has four championships... In the last 10 years. Four championships in the last 10 years. They're worth $7 billion.

You're the New York Knicks. You ain't won nothing. You're worth $6 billion. In 30 years. Do you want to win championships? Golden State went from Oakland to San Francisco. And they're worth $7 billion. They went up.

They're worth $7 billion. They're worth $7 billion. New York's been a bigger city. So then here's the follow-up to that question They have four rings and they went so that means on the three rings. It was under New York Yeah, but where is where is Brooklyn right now? But here's the phone 3.5 billion They're up from where they were and they won anyone nothing, but here's the follow-up to that question We talked we talked all the time about... I said the city.

I'm not saying that you're not saying the shit, bro. What I'm saying is when you got New York, you got fucking San Francisco, and you go from New Jersey to Brooklyn, it's going to go up. You don't have to win. This is what I'm saying, though. The fans want to win.

It ain't about having to win. They want to win. So they're going to show up,, the valuation is going to go up automatically. Because the expectation. Because of the city. But it's still the fan expectation is going to be like, oh, we're in Golden State now. We're in San Francisco. If New York was to go anywhere else outside of that Manhattan.

If they went to New Jersey. It would go down. then you win ten championships They still won't beat Brooklyn and what's-her-name? No, it's it would definitely go up because at that point when they start winning the valuation goes up The city doesn't any can't the city itself. There's not enough money in the city for it to go up The city got to get cracker. This is the city the wending is gonna get the steady crack We're winning will raise the value a little bit, but people are gonna come to New York then cuz they're winning But here's my New York. What's on my Jersey? Yeah, don't just write Jersey Sacramento. Well, who's a man Oh guards day

I'm gonna fuck you in ten championships in ten years. They're coming Denver Denver People on the outskirts. So here's a follow-up. Denver, 1.9 million. So if the Knicks are worth 6.5 as a mid-franchise, how much are they worth now if they got those four? Did they have experience the same situation as the Warriors?

They rattled off four championships. They go to eight or nine, Bill? Yeah, they go up. Yeah. Same thing as the Cowboys. They ain't won nothing. I don't know. But regardless, even if they don't win it they're still gonna go up regardless

but I'm saying that championship because of where they are we can slow roll it we still get the bread Dallas is what Dallas is because they're America's team and they're on fucking national TV every fucking game not because where they are in Dallas it's because

they're promoted the most out of all the teams it is different in football football and basketball Dallas is because they're promoted the most out of all the teams. It is different than football. Football and basketball. No, Dallas is right. Dallas is number one. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Dallas is in the top 10 of all sports. Dallas is eighth on

basketball city rankings and worth. Of all sports, the Cowboys... Houston lost. Bottom feeding team, they're worth $3.2 billion. They're ninth right lost, right? Bottom feeding team. They're worth $3.2 billion. They're ninth right now, right? Yeah.

That's crazy. It's not because they're an international hub. It's crazy. Because they're an international hub. Yeah, I mean it. They're an international hub. So it doesn't matter who wins.

So it's not the city. It's the actual value of how they promote it. But Houston is a big city, though. What franchise? They've been losing. It's the city. It ain't about their losing.

It's promoting them as an international brand. China tuning in. Whoever else. The people they got on the outside tuning in is driving the fucking value up. It's like if you have a team in New Mexico,

no matter how many championships they win, that city is not big one bill That's the city becomes one billion at the most yeah, like we might go down there one time I'm like, hey, if you brung win be the New Mexico to that city, right? Let's just say when B's in the city's not big enough to hold it But the value of that city if they're winning is gonna bring when Wendy Wendy brought when he got you when they got number one Pick it evaluated them 500 million. They're only worth 2 billion.

Now. Wow. And they have how many championships in it? Lots. It's the cities. No one. No one cares. Antonio.

Like if Vegas got a team, if Vegas got a team. It's going up. They would probably start off at about 7 billion. It's going up. Damn. It's going up. It's Vegas. Damn start off at about seven billion. It's going up. Yeah, it's going this Vegas Yeah, oh, yeah. Yeah, it's going up cuz you're getting every Question question for all you guys good. They're talking about everything at the game So teams don't need to necessarily give a fuck about winning to raise their valuations But should we look at player legacies in the same breath if you plan for a team that doesn't give a fuck about winning?

Why does that hurt your legacy if you can't win championships? I've always, I've always, that was always my thing about legacies and championships and you using championships as a staple for someone's career. Now think about everyone who's ever been drafted to the Clippers, right? You have no legacy, period. Right? No matter what you did, you have no legacy because where you started off at, your legacy sitting there

for four years messed up how you were going to be, you know, looked at. Now you're thinking about the teams now, right? You're thinking about every bottom-feeding team. So when you're getting drafted

and you're a number one, two, three pick, what teams are you actually going to? Right? You're going to bottom-feeding teams. So when you're getting drafted and you're a number one, two, three pick, what teams are you actually going to? You're going to bottom-feeding teams. So your legacy is already in question. Now, we think about every legacy person that we think about. When they talk about the pinnacle of this league, it's only three fucking cities. Chicago, LA, Boston. Now, you think about where those players got picked. And look at the

city. Lakers. Number one pick. Magic. How? Don't know how they got them. Magic. Right? Bird. Number one pick. Boston. Don't know how you got them. You got them. Jordan. Not number one, but number three. I know how you got them, you got them. Jordan.

Jordan. Not number one, but number three. I don't think Bird was right, because Magic came out the same year on my tribute. But you see, no, I think Bird stayed in one more year. No, no, no, no, they came out the same year. Bird was number one, I think Magic was number two. Yeah, because Bird got rookie of the year.

They came out the same year. No, I think Magic won Bird. Magic was one, for sure. Oh, Magic was one. Yeah, Magic was one, because Bird got rookie of the year. Because Magic, Bird lost. He won rookie of the year. Yeah, and then Magic won Bird. Magic was one. Oh, Magic was one. For sure. Yeah, Magic was one because Bird got MVP. Yeah. Because Magic, Bird lost. Yeah, Bird got a year.

Yeah, and then Magic won MVP. Yep. Shit, Bird was sixth. Yeah. Oh, 78. Magic came out. I know Magic was one. Magic came out, I think, first.

The next year was 79. Bird came out 78, Magic came out 79. Or am I tripping? I thought they came out the same year. I thought they came out the same year. No, I thought they played against in college again. I think Bird was- That same year.

I think Bird was coming out- That's what it was. And he went back in. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Bird came out 78, Magic came out the same year. No, I thought they played against in college again. I think Bird was coming out and he went back in. Yeah, Bird came out 78. Magic came out 79. Magic number one. He came out right before him, but he wasn't the number one. Yeah, he was sixth. Yeah. Magic waited.

But to your point, if you were Kobe, you were Magic. Kobe obviously drafted by the Hornets, but traded to the Lakers. But you get to start in a franchise that actually wants to win championships. Steph, you get drafted by a team We're gonna overspend going to that luxury tax versus you know not nothing compare them to damn But you got Portland like me we're not fucking Now you hence why LeBron was so gung-ho on leaving right You sit in you sit there. How many years are you gonna sit there before?

You've realized that this ain't it. Dan Gilbert comes in, buys that team for $500 million. He ain't trying to spend like that. He ain't trying to spend that money out there. I just spent $500. I'm not going to sit there and pay you this and this. Who you want? Nah, I can't pay that right now.

It's just Cleveland. I got to go. I got to go. I got to go. But that's what I'm saying. So he gets penalized for saying, no, I'm going to win a championship because I know I'm not going to win right here. Like, if he stayed in Cleveland. That whole time. The whole time.

Does he have four rings? Probably not. We don't know. Probably not. What do you think, two? Honestly, because it's hard to get somebody to come to some of these. Yeah, boss shit I'm not coming. Oh, yeah And just quickly on Larry Bird they put this in the chat, which I didn't know but uh

Red Auerbach drafted him going into a senior college or some loophole. They have played enough years. So you drafted him six before Yeah, yeah, yeah. You like that shit? He was cheating on you. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's some different shit back then. I know. That's some different shit. So everyone else, after these little niches, your legacy has kind of altered a little bit. Because your point with Cam, it's like for so long we blamed the players for not being able to win, when literally you might have a franchise.

It's like, no, we're not going to put you, like now if you win and you defy the odds, hey, we'll take this bread and pay for this parade. But versus the Warriors, it's like, no, we're not going to put you, like, now if you win and you define the odds, hey, we'll take this bread and pay for this parade. But versus the Warriors, it's like, no, we're putting the bread in because we want to win these chips. They want to win, yeah. We got it. It costs money to win chips. So if you don't have the backing, you don't have the paper, you're trying to, you know, like Clippers, right?

I'm just going to sit here, hey, four years gone, three years gone, I'm not paying you. My max is whatever your rookie deal was. Get the fuck on out. It's an investment. It's a business. It's an investment.

And the Warriors were willing to invest in that because they felt they had the pieces, too. They also believed. They also believed. Also, their market is going to go up. But that's what I'm saying. But think about it like this. Why does the legacy of the player gets hurt, but no one judges the owners?

Because the owner's not paying. That's what they do. But the fans. Or not paying. It's a fan and a media-driven thing. So the fans do not, they don't even consider the owners when they talk. They don't even know their names. They don't even know their names. They don't even know their names.

There's no face to it. The owner ain't really, he just paying. Like the GM, that's the GM job. This is what I'm paying you for. They don't even consider the owner, like what he might be doing behind closed doors. Okay, so go spread it. I'm telling you how much you can spend. Think about AI.

You got just him in that sorry ass group he carried to the championship. And he's like, oh, I need one more player. Nope. And they're looking at him like, mm-mm. That's all you got. Like, hold on. Like, I'm paying you max, and you sell every seat in here. I got to give him max, too?

I won. What seat are you going to sell? I won. What seat? You selling all the seats. What seat? So I'm just going to give him money that he ain't going to do nothing with. And that's how they think.

The owners already won. They already won. And that's the problem with just fandom in general. It's like you'll point the finger at these guys when we have these talks or you don't got enough as many rings as X, Y, or Z. When in certain situations, that's not the play. It's like, shit, we could have got this guy or that guy, but the owner was like, I'm not paying that bread.

And you can't even say that as a player. Like, you look crazy saying something like that out loud. You know how you said? Oh, you need help. You like that Out loud, you know how you say you need help you need we don't mean nice No, you know how you say you like man back when we played man We almost got you know, how like a Golden State of like yeah, we almost had kg Oh, yeah, and then the face like what happened he won't pay So let's keep this thing moving. Hornets caught a light stray from Jason Tatum,

but it was to give a deeper message about star players and load management. Man, I don't decide, shit, we playing the Hornets tonight. I'm going to chill. I only get to go to Charlotte two times a year. Somebody paid their money to come watch me play. Like, not trying to be arrogant. Like, there's a bunch of kids in there, my shoes and my jersey.

And just because we're playing Charlotte on NBA League Pass on a Monday and ain't nobody f***ing watching, I'm chilling tonight. That's not what the great players, the best players do. So, you know, we've talked load management before, but do you agree with what Tatum is saying? Yes, I thought load management started with injuries. Like I'm... I'm hurt and I gotta wait to...

I'm loading your, you know, like get you into it. I didn't know load management came from, you know, if the fans didn't, the fans ain't there, you ain't gotta play. You know, it's like a rapper now, right? All my tickets ain't selling. Oh, shit, got to cancel this tour. Like, is that, I don't. It was the Popovich shit.

When Popovich used to sit Tim and them during certain games against certain teams. I remember that Heat game. He sent them back home, but the Spurs almost beat the Heat in that game. That's what nobody really talks about. So they tried to put back last row pop percent of your star players back But it's like a team almost like still one. Yeah, but that was a that was a poke at the NBA Yeah, that was because of the The year before when they were playing

OKC and a blue OKC out by 20 both games and then all of a sudden in game 3, 4, 5, 6, they became old. Everybody old and they were just putting them in foul trouble sitting them on a bench and OKC runs out four and then it's OKC versus Miami. In that first championship LeBron got his first ring.

So Papa's like, and everybody's like, oh, you know this should have been a championship. Oh, that's what we're doing You you you go back home rest If y'all wanted to see the championship Then y'all should have yeah shouldn't do what y'all did and put us up in there That's the day water the loader, huh? Then the next year they want it right Spurs the Spurs wanted the third No, the third year the third year. Okay. Yeah, that's where. No, the third year. The third year. Okay. Yeah, that's where it started, though.

The load management. The conversation started after that. I feel like a lot of the players that do the load management thing is more about, like, they don't, they're hustling the system, to me, personally. I feel like if you play basketball, like, I feel like everybody here loves basketball, right? All you guys love basketball. You would play for free probably once you were financially taken care of. But if you're load managing and you're currently a player that's not injured, there's nothing wrong with you, you don't really love it. That's just what I think. I don't think it's the players that's load managing. I think it's the team load managing.

A coach can't tell me to sit out. can't yeah I'm sorry yeah can't what you mean coach I'm playing okay okay what you mean okay unless I'm injured I can't let's I'm injured stuff that's hurting and he's trying to look out for me but if there's nothing wrong with me you're saying you're saving me for no I'm playing you are doing all right. Starting five. You, you, you, you, you. Hey, coach, what's going on? Are you on the bench? Hey, coach, what's going on? I'm saying something about that.

Hey, coach, what's going on? Let me holler at you. Yeah, I'm saying something. Let me holler at you, coach. I'm not playing you. Let me holler at you. I'm saying something. Let me holler at you. I'm saying something. So when are you going to play me again? Huh? When I call your name. Yeah, cool. That's what I wanted you now? Yeah, cool You're doing it against this team when you want to but then when you need me

Tonight we really need you tonight see you in playoffs Like that's like you can't fight the system man. That that shit. If I don't want you to play this game, motherfucker, you ain't playing. I just couldn't imagine not playing. Right, because we got a lot dependent on you. So y'all agree with the low man? No, no, no. We've done it. That's why I want to know. You believe in low man?

No, I don't believe in low man. What are we saying? But I know this. I know this one thing. What? I can tell you this right here. If Coach told me, hey, we not hey, we're not going to play today. I would say why?

Let's just say I've been going against you and my numbers have been going down. Every time I played you, I'm averaging about 21. You're sitting that out? Hey, coach. See, I don't even know you. Good job, coach. Who is this guy? Good job, coach.

Who is this guy? Good job, coach. Because he's a businessman. Good job, coach. See, I don't even know you. Good job, coach. Who is this guy? Good job, coach. Who is this guy? Good job, coach. Because he a businessman. Good job, coach. He a businessman. If I'm on the team. I'm going for 30. You know, this bad game, I'm going to go down to 28.

Who is this guy? Good job, coach. Smart man. Hey, what if it's the opposite? Hell no. I have this 40 against you. Coach, I'm here. Because he talking about points and averages, right?

Yeah. He talking about wins and losses. If I give a fuck about winning and losing against this nigga who got three wins on me. I'm coming. I'm not losing to you niggas just because a nigga want to arrest me on some. Hey, man, we don't really need you tonight. Motherfucker, you need me every night. I'm trying to win every game.

There ain't a game I'm not trying to win. Like I said, like 10-1. Stats is cool. We'll go back to 10-1, right? Stats get you paid. So, wins don't. It don't matter. Wins get the coach paid.

What you mean wins don't get you paid? Wins get the coach paid. Stats get you paid. Wins don't get you paid? No. No, no, no. If my team is seven, you can't say that. How many games did...

You can't say that. Okay, how many games did... What's that light-skinned boy name that just got that 260? Oh, LaMelo. How many games did LaMelo win last year? Not very many. He got this thing that was called the Max. Well, yeah.

Max. Well, yeah, but even if he didn't get the stats that he got, even if they were a little lower, he was still going to get the max. He's the best player on the team. But it'll matter. It's his stats. Yeah, so, but even if he,

he could have went 81 and one. If he had bad stats, he's not getting paid. There's two terms. I'm not talking about bad stats. But wait, there's two terms. There's the term called loser. There's the term called winner. You fall on one side or the other.

I mean, you can't really... Look, you can be paid all you want. You can get all the stats you want. But look, at the end of the day, I'm going to be able to trigger you with saying, nigga, you a loser. I'm a winner.

Nigga, I win. So if I go up against you in whatever we compete in, I'm going to beat you. So let me ask you this. I'm going to beat you. Let me ask you this. I don't give a fuck about the bread that you got. That does beat you. I don't give a fuck about the bread that you got.

I don't give a fuck. Let me ask you this. I'm a winner. Okay, so James Harden, it was a post. James Harden, $300 million, no ring, or would you take Robert Horry, $56 million, with six rings or seven? Different times.

Seven rings. Which one do you take? That era of hard time. Which one do you think that that error? I'm taking the 300 million I think James is a winner. I've been to the finals. He is I mean I've been to the Mean it's not like my can though this guy has five It's what you care about is what you care about you care about winning or do you care about losing? That's what is what you care about the other question that we talked about previously How you losing if your ass is broke and you made 300? It don't matter if you broke or you rich.

It matters if you winning or you losing. That's what I want in life. You got paid. You got paid that. You didn't win it. You lost every match. I can't lose. Do you feel like you're a winner?

I can't lose at all. You won a national championship? I've won in competitions. But if we're looking at a team who's like, well shit, you're talking about playing with the Timberwolves and letting Mad Dog shoot fucking 10, 12 threes in a game, there comes a certain point where it don't matter how much of a winner you are, you can still be a winner

on a shitty team, right? Or no? Or is it based on team record? For me, it's the culture, it's the pedigree, it's the mentality. When you're around motherfuckers who want to win and you come up short You know you still got that opportunity to win when you out there on the floor when you got a fucking shitty ass loser mentality It don't matter what y'all do on the floor y'all gonna fucking lose you go when I was playing with them

I knew we're gonna find a way to fucking lose. We're gonna find a way to lose It was no winning around that wasn't that that was the question was Robert Hoare or do you take James Brown? I said, I take Robert Hoare. I'm the winner. I'm going to win. My mentality is not money-based. It's not driven on that. It's driven on beating you, defeating you.

If you are up against me, I'm going to win. It ain't about money on the line, no money on the line. I don't give a fuck what it is. If I don't win, I'm upset. I'm trying to figure that out. You're depending on the rest of your team to help you. I can tell you this. You're depending on the rest of your team.

Let's say you go head to head with me. You give me 50, but we beat you by 20. Do you still feel like you're a loser? I'm a fucking loser, 100%. I don't give a fuck. I've said it publicly. You went 5 for 5. You have 20 points. How do you feel? I don't give a fuck. I've said it publicly they you went five for five you 20 points I mean, how do you feel? I don't give a fuck about what none of that shit we lost It don't matter how many fucking points I had it

We fucking lost but if you wanted did that y'all would have lost by even more if we still lose It don't matter about points another that I do a loop you lost but are you too? But is Robert Horde the winner? What do you mean? is he the winner? Is he the winner? He has five championships. Okay. The fact that he has five championships... Was it five? Yeah, seven, right? He has seven?

He has seven. He has seven championships, and he made $54 million, which clearly tells you he was never a main guy. He was just a dude on the team. That's why I said you can't compare. Right? So the fact that, like, Steph, his money matches his winning as the main player

Right. So just because you got five rings and you won You didn't win all the church individualized. You didn't win You know you're individualizing it being about one thing and me it's not about me Robert or is never gonna be like I won shit. It's not about me. Robert Orr is never going to be like, I won shit. He's going to say, man, I was on teams that won. And I made $54 million

in my career. It may not be good to him, but for me to make $54 and to win? Shit. It's a different perspective. You know, shit. And you know what? I can go buy NBA rings right And to win? Shit. It's a different perspective. You know, shit. That's cool. And you know what?

I can go buy NBA rings right now on sale from players who won, but because they wasn't the best player that was on that team, they got to sell that ring for this thing called money. I've never seen a nigga selling 300 million. Gilbert. I'm just saying. You can never imitate the feeling of winning, bro, by buying someone's ring.

That's an imitation. You're like, I'm going to feel like a winner today. I'm going to go buy a ring. No, nigga. Nah, nigga. You can never be this. I know. They can't either because now they're selling it. But they don't want to be that. They don't want to be that. They had the feeling at first. They was popping champagne. They don't want to be that. They don't want to be that. They had the feeling at first. They was popping champagne.

They don't want to be that. When it all settled down. Why would a nigga want to pay for like? When I'm saying when it all settled down. When it all settled down. It's the same thing. Like think about this. When it all settled down, that ring they had

wasn't as valuable as they actually thought. Yes, it was. Gilbert, it's the experience. Why are they selling it now? It's the experience. Then why are they selling it? Because you can't get it's the experience. It's the experience. Because you can't get rid of the experience. I can sell my ring because I'm still a winner.

It's just a ring. I'm still a champion. But what are you selling it for? It don't matter. You're selling it for the money. It don't matter. The money. The fact that I won.

Look, the fact that I won means that I have something to sell I got something to sell Because I won I've never seen money be sold A loser can't Doesn't have anything to sell A loser has nothing to sell But the story of losing I can tell you

What did you say, Netflix? I want to buy my story of how I lost In game 7 I got paid off telling a losing story. But how is $300 million a loser? Listen, I changed my whole family's legacy. If you're about money. It depends on what you value.

If you're about money. It's about what you value. You can do two things. You can make money and you can win. Some people feel like $54 million is a great fucking life. Sounds great. Great fucking career. They value the fact that I have

seven times been on a team that nobody else can say they did this. Hit the game winning shot. Don't devalue the seven time all star who contributed. Who contributed. Would you rather be Kobe

or Derek Fisher? Say it like this. I said it just like that. Why would you what they both got five rings? What does that have to do with anything? Would you want they're both winners? They're not talented. They're both winners out there Say would I rather what the OB or Jordan? No, cuz they're both the main player. Yes, you have to compare them. They're the most they're both the main player It wasn't there on the scene. Yeah, that's what I said You have to compare them. They're both the main player. Wasn't Derrick Fisher on Toby's team? Yeah, that's what I said. I gave you both.

One made, one is damn near a billionaire before he passed, and one was dead. A good comparison. So here's a question, though. What's a good comparison? They both won, so which one would you rather be? I'm trying to compare apples to apples. I'm sorry. No, you're not, because Derrick Fisher, the stolen nigga.

I'm giving you two winners, Because obviously somehow you think growing up in the ghetto, where the fuck you grew up at with no money, all you kids, and making $300 million from your talent is somehow losing. It's somehow losing. Who said it was losing?

Who said it was losing? You're selling your gifts for the money that this other person had. Who said it was... Who said it? I think what you're missing is you're considering $54 million a loss.

Yes. That's a win. And we didn't come up from the ghetto. And we didn't come up from the ghetto trying to make money. Nigga, the goal wasn't, oh, man, I'm at the house. I'm trying to make all this money.

No, I'm trying to be the greatest ever played. Basically what you're saying, though, $56 million and seven rings is worth more than $ make all this money. No, I'm trying to be the greatest ever played. Basically what you're saying though, 56 million and seven rings is worth more than 300 million and zero. No rings. To some people. Cap. To some people.

Give me the 300. Cap, you're cap. I caught you. I didn't say me. I said to some people. No, no, no. Hold on. I said to some people.

No, no, no. Before this, I said, would you rather be an owner that had a team for 10 years with five rings only made 500 million or no? Reason make two billion No when I'm an owner my job is to make money. As a player, personally, yes, I want to make money.

But also, I'm here to win. I'm also here to win. As an owner, you're trying to be your legacy. No, you're not. Buss cares about his legacy, too. You don't care if you win. You can't change it. The owners, you already said that.

The owners don't care if they win. They're still getting money. Players don't care if they win. They don't care if they get money. Yeah, there are players that care if they win. How do you change the narrative on you owning or you playing it? It's still you. Thank you. So you don't care about being a winner

as an owner. As an owner, not really. Okay. Not really, no. My job is to make sure that I got asses in the seats. A championship is not included in that. No, it's not. Can I ask a question? No. Can I ask a question? Is the game about winning or losing?

The game of basketball. The game of basketball is about playing basketball and winning. Oh, my God. Is it about winning or losing? Yeah, don't do that. That's all I wanted to know. Don't do that. If the game is about anything else but winning or losing, I would agree with you.

Yeah. I would. I would say, oh, 300 million. But the game of basketball is about winning or losing. I would agree with you. Yeah. I would. I would say, oh, $300 million. No, no, no. But the game of basketball is about winning or losing. And I care about winning in the game that I work my ass off playing, strategizing for. That's what I play for, winning. No, no, right.

It's the business of basketball. I also feel like the business of basketball is about money. No, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. You business of basketball. I also feel like... The business is not. The business of basketball is about money. No, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. Y'all said basketball. Hold on.

You said basketball is about winning, right? Yeah, getting paid, getting 300 million, that's winning. I'm sorry. That's winning. I'm saying some people or some people... That's winning. But that's winning, though. Right, right.

Anybody that's in the NBA that got a contract, that's winning. You're winning from initially. When you got drafted. Initially. I mean, the thing about... Just getting drafted for. When you got drafted. I mean, because we play basketball. It is a win. It don't matter what round. It don't matter what round. It don't matter if you get a tick on the clock. A win is a win.

The fact that you got drafted. Put the hat on. That is a win for some people. Then there's some people that feel like winning for me is winning a championship, is being a great being and be able to say I was a great player at this time then there's other people that say great if I never make the playoffs right I'm here for the bread so it's really all about if I'm in the NBA I'm winning the win. If I'm in the NBA, I'm winning. I can tell you this right now. I'm winning if I'm in the NBA.

This is in the high 90s. You go back to all the championship people that didn't make money and say, would you give up your championship legacy for this bread? 99 will say yes. That's after. Of course it's after.

That's why you're being sold. It's after. After you get the feeling and you realize, I'll take the bread. Fuck this ring. It's after. It's after. Of course it's after. That's why you're being sold. It's after. It's after. After you get the feeling and you realize, I'll take the bread. Fuck this ring. It's after. It's after. It's after.

But when you're playing like, I don't give a fuck what you talking about, Gil. I watched you play in Washington, nigga. You wanted to fucking win. If I tell you you have to win. You wanted to win though. If I tell you. But you wanted to win. If everybody got paid the same amount of money, Gilbert.

You wanted to fucking win, Gil. What would the game be about? You wanted to win. If everybody got paid. You wanted to win. would the game be about? If everybody got paid so much. If you're gonna wait. If you're gonna use this metric. If you're gonna use this metric of man I I got paid

300 million because this guy decided I was worth this much and I was gonna get this much and it didn't matter if I won or lost because I got 300. But if we all got paid the same amount, you're not going to be satisfied with losing every fucking game.

You're going to be upset. Losing. Hold on. Going home, being a loser. Like, man, we can't get over the hump. Hey, it's alright Gilbert. You got such a... I don't give a fuck about that fucking money. We fucking keep losing these niggas. You trying to tell me you didn't want to beat the Cavs? You didn't want to beat the Cavs?

Hold on. You don't want to beat the Cavs? It means it's not real. It's not real. You use if all the time with all your examples. It means it's not real. You use it with all your examples. We know it's real.

Right? So if we start off y'all careers right now, and I say at the end of this road, as a player, right, there's 500 million sitting for you Yeah, right. It's a bonus this road 20 million, but you have seven rings. I Guarantee you you're not looking at ring possibly No, no niggas only niggas who No, he's not. Who's the thing? No, he's not. Niggas are looking at 500. No.

No, nigga. Only niggas who are thinking about the brand, and that's all they think about. It's a different... It's an integrity of mentality. Nigga, money is not everything, dude. Money is not everything. Money is not everything, bro. Money's not everything. You try to pay your rent.

Money's not everything, bro. You try to pay your rent with that ring. Money's not everything, bro. Money's not everything. Money's not everything. You're trying to pay your rent with that ring. Money's not everything, bro. I need the ring. There you go. Look at these rings. But this is what we talked about yesterday. You had to sell those rings for that rent money.

Didn't we just talk about this? I don't have to. No, 54 million, you don't need rent money. 54 million, you don't need rent money, Gil. The integrity of the game. Come on. From a competitive IQ. We talked about low IQ players, right? And the reason why is because they're making so much Gil. The integrity of the game. Come on. From a competitive level. Go to eBay.

We talking about low IQ players, right? And the reason why is because they making so much money. They doing all that. They don't really give a fuck. I just- So we just, we talking about the reason why nobody gives a fuck. So you'd rather be Tony Kukoc than Carmelo Anthony? All the books.

I don't give a fuck who it is as long as I'm winning. You pick whoever. Gil. Gil. I don't give a fuck about these niggas and their bread and their money. Look me in my eye. Look me, Gil. Look me in- I don't give a fuck. I can go to eBay and I'm a be- Gil. Yeah Right now

There's a hundred championship rings being sold by champions. So what? Babe motherfucking James Hart won do you mean? I guarantee you James Harden won't be selling packages of money. Because he doesn't have a ring. I guarantee you. He doesn't have a ring.

I can go... He doesn't have a ring. I can go right now and find... He doesn't have a ring, Gene. I can go find Golden State Championship rings right now.

But can I say something? That's now. But can I just say something? That player won a ring but because he didn't get off the pitch... I don't think y'all know how to tell me. Can can I say something? That's now. But can I just say something? That player won a ring, but because he didn't get off the pitch... I don't think y'all know how this sounds.

Can I just say something, Gil? I don't think y'all know Can I just ask you one question, Gil? It sounds crazy as fuck. Gil, let me ask you a question, Gilbert. Give me the money.

Gilbert. Give me the money. Okay, okay. But this is why the game is where it's at. I hear you, but listen, Gilbert. Gil, listen to me

for one second. I watched you... Give me the money. I watched watched you. Give me the money. I watched you play. Give me the money. You remember your Cavs, the playoffs? You remember that? Give me the money.

You remember losing to the Cavs? Give me the money. Are you trying to tell me, are you trying to tell me that you wouldn't trade? Since you used 50 million as the example of the person that got the rings and 50 million, are you trying, so how much money did you make in the NBA? How much money did you... 171. If you're asking me what I traded...

Don't start talking. I'm not asking you questions. This is your question. How much money did you make? How much money? 171. Okay, so, 171. So, if you made 120 million instead of 171

and you were able to get a ring, would you not trade that 120 versus 170 for the ring? 50 million for a ring? Fuck no. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't. You're crazy as hell. I would.

You're crazy. I would. Motherfucker, hey. You're crazy as hell. 50 million worth of no goddamn ring? I would. They sell that motherfucker right here 10 grand. I would.

You know what that would mean to me as a player? You know what that would mean to me as a player? You know what that would mean to me? How much does winning mean to you? How much is it worth? There is a value in winning. That's it. That's all it is. What does it mean?

And if we're going to say this to the people out there that are listening, they're like, hey, man, winning don't really mean that much. What the fuck are we doing? But let's apply it to regular life, though. That's a zero of $50 million. Let's apply it to regular life. $121. I'm mad.

I gave back $18 million. You crazy as shit. I would have gave. I tell players, do not give back no more. If I could have had the opportunity, and this is just me, and obviously I never played in the NBA. I'm not you guys. I never made that kind of money. So I'm coming from a different perspective

But for me think looking back at how much money I know that you made and and I know your skill I know your talent. I know like where you should be in your career. It had you not done the dumb shit Me personally 120 Injury, all that shit. Me, personally, 120 versus 170 in a ring, I'm taking the 120 in the ring. For one ring? You think so? For one ring?

To experience being on that. So that ring is worth 50 million. That experience is worth 50 million dollars. I got zero? I went to game six. That was enough for me. That was enough for me. I've seen it.

Winning means more to certain people. You were getting the me. That was enough for me. I've seen it. Winning means more to certain people. You would get the parade. I don't need to win it. Give a fuck. I designed the world for people. Give me the money. Give me the money. $120 million to me is a shit load.

It's a shit load until you're done playing and it's hard to make a million. You're going to think about the 50 million you gave away for that stupid ass ring. I'm thinking about what I... I'm thinking about what I did as a kid. The things that I went through, the time I spent

outside playing, outside playing against men, playing against my uncle, in competition division 2, fighting Get one. Outside. If you can get one. If you can get one, yeah. Memories. Playing against my uncle. In conflict. Division 2. Fighting to get to the WBA. That sounds great. There's so many things. It sounds great. Just how I sounded too.

Why you think I took, I had 126 and I went to 111. It all sounds good. Until you're there. When you're done. Did you grow up in the hood? No. Okay, you didn't grow up in poverty. No. You grew up good. Did you go up in the hood? No, okay. You didn't grow up No, you grew up good. Yes You're even talking about yeah reality. What's the reality? You are you are always good. You were always good I turned down damn near one of the biggest turns down. I had 126 with my max. I

Only took 111 to keep better in the team When you're done and he's still good Like there's nothing to complain about. The only thing he's missing on this wall of fame is a ring. That's the only thing missing. But he can go buy one, but he can't manipulate the experience of it. It's like, yo, you did great. If I'm the one who's telling you, then, if I'm the one that's telling you,

then I'm the one who came to the ending of it and said, that that wasn't worth it No, it would not because you didn't come nothing It would turn down 50 million then you're dumb how you're done I didn't do it for the money He's like now You should sound like me I didn't do it for the money. He's like now I did it for money. Are you kidding? You got $120 million? Here's the reason. All right. Yeah. It doesn't mean that just because I came from the hood don't mean I was doing it for the money. Hold on. That's a lot of money. I'm sorry.

If I'm the one who... $120 is a lot of money. Y'all all stuck in a lot of air. Let's take a deep breath. I know the chat, like, everybody's screaming. It all sounds chat likes conflict. They do like us like this, though, I feel like. When you signed $121, when you were guaranteed 171, and you turned it down to win a championship.

I'm guaranteeing a championship. You tried it. No, no, no. You got it. You tried it. I gave it to you. You won a championship, right? When your career's over with and you're sitting down reflecting, you're reflecting because the moment's gone it's gone

the moment is never gone the 50 million dollars is not worth that fucking ring that's why it's sold so easily not for me now you don't know it because i haven't had to sacrifice for it. Because I got memories forever, Gil. The memory is there. The ring is the symbol of something that happened. It's just putting it on. It's the work.

It's the work. I know niggas that got rings. They got to pay for their seats. No, but that's what I'm saying. To come back to a game. To come back to a game. BJ. BJ.

I mean, what the fuck? I mean, what are we honoring? BJ, that's different. I got to pay to get back in here. That's different from someone who made 20 I wish I will pay for some bucks tickets listen to what I'm saying If you if you and you had a ring and you're struggling right now I totally get that does give me look like he's fucking struggling

No, and I'm so good then why would I say if I'm struggling, I will take the money still? Because you're crazy. I'll call you. How about this? Nick has a ring. Nick Young has a ring. Nick Young has a ring. Right? Matt Barton has a ring.

I remember watching you. They have a ring. Won't you listen? They have a ring. I can call them right now and say, would you give your ring back for one more year? You know why? They will say yes. You know why? They will say yes. You know why?

Because they didn't make what you made. You made a completely different amount of money. It's different. It goes back to the Robert Horry thing. You made a shit ton of money. It's not because you're inflating the numbers for the fact that somebody is going to choose this number over this number. Yo, you made. It's Wendy or Luzma.

Robert Horry's story. He said 50 million. 50 million is different than 120. I don't give a fuck what you're talking about. 300 to 50. That's different. That's different. So Gil did a good thing when he took less to get everybody else paid?

He did that. You know why? Because he valued a championship. No, I know. I know, but what I'm saying is, so was that a good decision for him then? Was that a good business decision? Yeah, now that we're looking back at it now looking back at it. Why would I? More

More see More more see that's what we said 120 million could have had 18 the problem Feels good. The problem is they didn't do it. We didn't so they're going off the theory the same theory I did the same theory. I'm telling you I Did it and we're telling you I'm telling you right now, I wouldn't again. You missed that 15 minutes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I did it. I did it.

I'm telling you, I wouldn't again. Hold on, but at that time, you're proving our point, meaning... No, you're asking me now if I had it. No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. We didn't do it, right? No. We don't know.

Don't. So all we're doing is speculating on something that we can imagine, right? You imagined winning a championship. That's why you did that. Yes. You're the same as us. You're the same as us. I was.

You just asked me if I can get... So we're telling you... Hold on. Hold on. Let me talk. What was your question? Let me talk. Would I today give back $50 million for a championship? And I'm get you asking. So we're telling you. Hold on. Hold on. Let me talk. What was your question? Let me talk. Would I today give back $50 million for a championship?

And I'm telling you no. So you just said we never made that money, right? So we're telling you we were you. We are you now because we didn't do it. We are you now because we never made $120 million. That wasn't your fucking question. You're moving now. No, no, no, no, no.

I'm telling you. I'm telling you right now. As you just said, we didn't your fucking question. No, I'm moving now. No, no, no, no, I'm telling you I'm telling you right now as You just said we didn't make that money, right? You wouldn't know Well, Robert You more money you didn't know either So at that moment in time you were us. Yes So what we're saying is why can't you understand what we're thinking They're both then you were us you were us This is why you

Thank you That wasn't the goalpost. $300 million to... The goalpost was from the Marines to $300 million. Hold on. I won the conversation a while back. I already won the conversation. After you already did it. What's the game about? After you already did it, you proved that. You're asking me what I would do. You proved by taking a pay cut that you are us.

Okay? That wasn't the... Why can't you see that? I already seen it. That wasn't the fucking topic. And now you're saying... In hindsight, I wouldn't do it now.

What are you saying? Vanilla or chocolate? You're saying vanilla or chocolate? You're trying to throw in some fucking mixture now. Whenever he gets triggered... It's the game of the game versus the game of the game. We all grow up wanting to play in the NBA World Championship. No, you were us. But the point is, when you get to the league, and it's like, wait, you want me to take less bread with a chip?

He did it. Thank you. He did it. But is he happy about it now? Okay. No. And that's the question. What do I do now?

So why are you acting like you don't know where we're coming from since we didn't know? I know what you're coming from. We didn't know? I know what you're coming from. We didn't know. That's why I said now. We weren't there. Did you make $120,000? Do you know what now means? I mean, I was a wife.

And my people was doing this thing. Do you know what now means? I didn't even touch any of that bread. But it's regretting that decision, right? Do you know what now means? Yeah, I do. You can only regret that decision because you didn't win. Because you didn't win.

You didn't win. You didn't win. Had you won, you wouldn't regret it. I actually took less money because we won. He took the money. But do you shoulder the blame for not winning now? I would regret it if I didn't win. It's a risk.

The risk you take. We look at players and say, are you a bum you didn't win a ring? Not realizing, yeah, ownership was never going to let you do that shit. Let me get that 15 mil back. I'm not going to give you shit. Even if I want to raise I do not turn down 50 million dollars You already did it and I regret it. That's the point of the conversation The point of the conversation is with IB Robert Horry or James Harden. It's the do you not remember the beginning?

It's the reason I don't move. When you go with the balloon this way, when he does that shit, I stay right here. The beginning was seven rings and 50-something million or 300. I said I'm taking 300. That was it. Whose house are we in? Whose house are we in?

Mine. You have a different perspective. Yes. So how can you not understand this perspective when you were us in 2000, what was it? I've already said that. Six? I don't think you were listening when I said, I've done that already. That's why I would choose- So why do you not understand us?

I said it, I understand you because I did it already. That's why I would take 300. So you do understand us? Yes, or I would do 300. All right, just thought. The win was I won 300 I won 300. I don't even fuck about the rings Good job guys another heated debate discussion, but this is why we're on girls arena and we all love each other As you guys know home you see these things But the most important thing you need to do now is fans in the chat

Go ahead download underdog fantasy and go to eBay and buy your NBA championship ring. They're going for 10 grand. How much is your ring? How much is your ring? Feel like a champion. I can buy one. Is that the real ring? How much is your ring?

There's NBA players, legacy, on there. You can buy all Boston. You remember the Lakers would call me? How much is your ring? Players, I was on the bench. How much is your ring? We need to buy all the rings and return them. The ring I have is nothing.

The Lakers lose to Kobe. Huh? The Lakers lose to Kobe, so I need all my chips. All my chips. Never took a pay cut for nothing. But I brought five rings, so what? I need my chips. Hey, hey, man.

Can we... Man, we need maybe my dear can we man? Let's talk about a team that has one and we'll need on a side By me a fan on the mall here baby here debate Can a robber do that? I'm about to be a phantom right now, all right? Yeah, he can. Tell him to bring him in the 76ers. You know how I know he can buy a phantom? Because I can buy a phantom. And he made more money. Then let's go buy one. How many wins you got? Doesn't matter.

None, right? I can buy a phantom, though. And so can he. I can buy a Honda Accord. And so can he. You better go to eBay. He can buy a phantom. You better go to eBay.

He acting like 54 million is not a lot of bread. 54 million. That's a lot of bread. Is that what life's about? That's a lot of bread. Is that what life's about? That's a lot of bread. Is that what life's about? 54 million, especially in that time. Joe, that's what life's about.

And as you get older in life, your health is going to be blinded. I would never work another day if I made $54 million. I don't need a fandom. I'm a fan of good guys. Well, I want a stunt. That's capped.

But let's talk about a team That has won championships Like and some of the players on it for the bulk of their careers Draymond green CP three have not fucked with each other I think that's very well known Ricky green. Let it be known back in 2020 when he appeared on all the smoke And part of the reason was that CP at all you already know wake I hear it again. I Don't like CP at all. We, you already know. Wait, can I hear it again? I don't like CP at all. We got the little Kanye mix board now. We're going to incorporate that soon. But he let that be known back on All In Smoke.

Part of the reason was because of how CP3 was coming at Steph. But Green isn't the only warrior with issues with CP3. Back in 2019, after the Warriors beat the Rockets in the second round, several players were heard chanting, fuck Chris Paul. So now he's on the squad. So, how will Draymond and the Warriors pass beef with CP3 impact them this season?

Let's go. That's not a real... Like, it's a beef because you're rivalry, but not... Not on court. What happens when you guys... What happens, you guys, what happens when you have a beef with a player that's not on your team and then he gets traded What happens nothing nothing?

Is a beef over yeah cuz usually the beef is just y'all are just rival teams Well, if y'all don't like a Duke player going to North Carolina, you're not gonna you're not gonna lose games not pass him the ball No, I haven't I don't like you as a human, but I don't like yeah But why because you're beating me or whatever it gotta do somewhat off the court So what happens No happens if you gotta be for the nigga off the court now, you don't fuck with this thing at all You don't fuck with him. He get traded to your team. Well, what happens? What do you do as a professional? Can I tell you? Can I tell you? That happened to you?

Yeah, for sure. Sacramento. I got traded to Sacramento. Francisco Garcia, me and him had beef. Real beef. Like real beef? Yeah, from summer league. And you went and fade him? No, like niggas was trying to jump me. I used to row solo everywhere I went. What do you mean you tried to jump? Niggas was trying to get at me. I'm Thanos. Like I was on my tough shit. Like yo, what's up? I'ma take all y'all niggas.

What's up? Right all that So I got traded the first day like I'm I'm the nigga that's there like before everybody else I'm in the gym getting my shots up trying to meet everybody. So my first day sag I go to the gym He's in the gym and I knew coming to the team I was gonna have to face this nigga eventually, but I didn't know what kind of energy he was on I know what type of energy I'm on. I'm like, last time I seen you, what's up? So I knew this is a fresh start for me.

So I'm like, I don't want to fuck this up because I know Tim Wilson talks some shit. Come in here, oh, this type of nigga he going to be. Get there first day, I walk up on him and he's shooting. And I was just like, look, you still got that energy? He's like, nah, man. You came and brought it to him? I had to. I brought And I was just like, look, you still got that energy? He's like, nah, man.

You came and brought it to him? I had to. I brought the energy to him like, yo, what's up? And he's like, nah, we teammates. I'm like, that's how I feel. We teammates, bro. We teammates. And we together now.

Moved on. It was moved. And we became closer. Now, I ain't going to say we was friends, but we hung out. We just become best friends? Yeah. We shot against each other and stuff the on shooting shooting work How long did that take though from that moment when y'all have that right away? Okay right away

It was this thing. There's no issue then with cp3 and in dream on if they approach it like that Because it's tough for me. I mean if I'm dream on that's tough if they're ready I'm petty ready like I'm a say I'm a say something'm petty. I'm going to say something. You have an eternal beef with CP3, though, so we got to point that out. No, I'm just saying, no, just in general, though, I'm going to just say something. Anybody I got beef with, if I say something. Dennis Ryman going to the Bulls.

That's like who? Dennis Ryman going to the Bulls. He was part of the bad boys that was clotheslines and the shit out of, wasn't he? Yeah. Is it different, though? But you got him at a different age, though. They got Dennis at a different yeah. Is it different though? But you got him at a different age though. They got dinner at a different age.

Is it different when... He was on some other shit at that point. Yeah. Is it different when it's, like you said, it was like some rivalry beef or if it's personal beef?

Personal, off the court. Is that different? If we ran into each other off the court and it's an issue... Like if a nigga told you he gonna smack you when he see you

and then the next thing you know he get traded to your team. What does that do to you? So you don't care that he said he was gonna smack you when he see you you got what did he smack me when he See me no Not because me okay, so If a girl tell me that is she gonna smack me when she see me. I'm gonna walk right up to her and say smack me and y'all don't have that same energy what if she says let's be teammates now let's but y'all

she gotta say that but that was that's automatically the thing y'all are teammates because she got they got traded there nah i don't know i just feel like if there's a specific type of beef like it's different when it's hoop beef versus personal beef. That's completely different to me. Hoop beef ain't really real. It ain't real. But that's what I'm saying. Hoop beef is, like, petty.

But if somebody said they want to fade with you, is that different? No, because we just say that shit just to say it. Like, I don't know how many real beefs there are in it, though. Like, the real beef is be like, when I see you after this, in the back, and I approach you in the

back on some, what's up? Like, Zach Randolph has certain beefs with niggas. But that's still basketball related. But it's off the court. And I still think it's a show. Anything you do in that arena is a show. So it's all cap? To me, I think it's a show because

you're acting with all the, you know, everybody's back there, so it's like you're trying to put on a show. But like outside, well, at the club or something like that. It feels like outside at the club y'all had this thing with women or something. Then that's different. But stuff that, anything that happens on a basketball court foul you too hard, I said this.

The only reason I say that is because obviously men have different beefs than women. You know what I'm saying? Like you guys are are able to, like, square up and box, and then the next day, it didn't even happen. With women, no. None of that shit's right. I'm sorry. If I ever swung on you, whether I connected or not, dead body. You're never going to be my friend.

You're going to have a hooper? I don't give a fuck what it was. So on the basketball court, if you got into a fight, you were not rolling with that? I'm never fucking with you. And y'all teammates? That's wild. So they on the fast break, you wouldn't pass on the ball? I don't even want to play with you, but that might be a one-in-thing.

So you're going to trade yourself. That's what I'm saying. It's different for when we hold things in a different way. That's what I feel. I know this. I've seen men fight. Shit, we know this. Physically fight each other and squash it the next day,

and y'all cool, sharing a blunt, whatever. Yeah, because that was just the energy, we gotta get this... Usually, when we fight, you know it's different, right? We've seen with the Draymond and Pulse shit, where you just sucker bang. And you move on. I'm not gonna forget that. But if we square, we both get our shots in, eventually after that, we gonna dap up, respect each other, and get some jokes.

It's different for women. I also like the rules where motherfuckers be like, yo, hey, step inside the circle, go handle this like men. It's different for women. I'll sit back in rooms where motherfuckers be like, yo, hey, step inside the circle and go handle this like men. Handle it.

Line it up. Then you can be like this. I think it's different for women. I think women hold brothers in a different way. And then you shake hands, we back, everything cool.

Let me just stay out of this thing because women, we don't play, I don't play. So you don't anticipate any issues, Draymond, CP3. Women don't like to be one up. They get to practice. my don't like to read one up. Yeah, I get the practice. We do not like they start looking at each other It's one thing when you got to play against somebody four to six times a year

It's another thing now. I got to see you every day in practice or is it you start seeing the same dude Y'all start when it's football training camp It feels like they'll do see each other enough offensive defense like it was time to fight like like it's just what it is a level Professionalism for both of them They're very professional guys, and they like to talk though, but they're at of their ad that organization Where it's like it's not no good nigga shit. It's like when yeah, it's like What I'm gonna do now say fuck your team We beat y'all again like what happens but you also my favorite line when I'm talking shit to somebody on the court, count your fucking days.

Count your days. Like, count your fucking days. And they just walk off. And they just walk off like, that big tripper. That big tripper. Count your fucking days. So we talk about the inner workings of the team.

Have y'all ever had any issues in the family room or any things like that? Ooh, I did. I had a whole fight in the family. As a wife, though, not a family. But that's like 50 Oh, yeah, I put my hands on two wives to it a bitches got hands

Lay on them. One was in the family room in the bathroom. Yes Family arguing about what you're arguing about in the family room, but everybody's a long story. It's a law It's just it's just shit. It's this it's different pillow talking No, it's different for women like this is before I was Anything it's just the way look up at you up and down Or sharing obviously won't want to implicate or anything so you could fuck about her I called her spongebob she Brent was dating her friend before me. And so then he kind of stopped dating.

My husband and her man were roommates. They lived together. He was dating her friend. He dumped her friend and started dating me. Here I come. Now, her friend out the equation. So when she see me in the family room, she got all types of mouth,

but she don't know who she fucking with. And I will smack you for words. Skee. That's just where I'm from. Skee. Right. And so I had to smack her several times, not just there, but other times, too. It was repeated smacking?

Yeah. Yeah, like this. Sometimes you got to put your hands on a motherfucker, because sometimes people only understand an ass whooping. That's fair. You know what I'm saying? And after you got your ass whooped, then it was over with. That's what I'm talking about. 4.30, you, and the ass whooping. That's fair. You know what I'm saying? And after you got your ass whooped, then it was over with. That's what I'm talking about. 4.30, you in the ass whooping.

Damn. Golf, you're going to get an ass whooping on the golf. Someone got to, you got to learn. Oh my God, he done sworn this guy around his golf. You got to learn, you got to learn. You got to learn.

You can't meet men in sports. I'm not proud of that, but I've been very ghetto in my past and put my hands on people for words. And now I'm 48 years old. I don't put my hands on people for words anymore. But back then, yeah, I used to put my hands on people for words.

Yeah, it could be a look, a breathing pattern. Yeah, you breathe a little too inconsistency on my smackers. I'd be in fake pen if I was to act on words. It's different for men. It is different for men it is different for me. Yeah I like words. I like I like taking it there with the words. I'll take it there Hey, and I like that niggas like you well not men out hit men, but women if you like words, I like hands

words hands His hands coming from that. So throughout CP3's career, he's been viewed as a leader, right? That makes guys around him better for the most part. I think we can all agree on that. But now he's coming to a team that has a big three. We're four-time champs. He's the only guy in the mix without a ring.

He should shut up. So what's the best role for CP3 for this warrior squad to win a title? Whatever they say, do it. Keep the peace. You already got this asterisk by your name. We call him the Point God. And he has no rings. This is the greatest opportunity for him to actually submit that name of Point God and get a championship.

But he's known as somewhat of a vocal leader. Obviously, Draymond Green is as well. How do you now come into that situation? You take a back seat, Dray, y'all got it, let me learn from you. Are you coming in being yourself? You got to be yourself. It's you. It helps the team. It spices things up.

Like when Draymond's probably ain't ain't in a mood tired he ain't got that voice now you got CP to keep that energy going so think about like when Draymond gets kicked out the game now you have CP to bring to bring that energy up so um you know those type of players will you know figure it out I mean you, CP's played with all type of personalities and I'm pretty sure Draymond and Golden State Warriors would be the easiest for him because they are winners. Yeah. Because he was- Versus everybody else, he got to convince to try to win.

And we interviewed CP a couple of years ago and it really changed my whole perspective on him because as you know, some guys have given the reputation that he's an asshole, but really he's a guy who demands access, right if you're not on that level he's getting into your shit you're gonna take that personally you're gonna feel some type of way about him but i think not to say similar to kobe but look we're trying to win a championship so if you're not carrying your weight i'm it's gonna be some hard conversations i will make i will make sure we have you for the playoffs then when we need you look period period like how about, P.J. Like, how about that? Fucking period. You know, like, how about, I mean, since we're gonna, since, you know, we're talking hoop,

since we're, since you said CP3, be you, so that means we know what we're getting. No, I think, I think, I think, like, you know what I'm saying, we know what we're getting. No, I think, I think his problem has always been he did too much. What do you mean? Too much of what? Everything. What do you mean? Think about it, he's playing defense, he's, he's playing defense. What do you mean? Too much of what? Everything. What do you mean? Think about it. He's playing defense.

He's playing defense. What do you mean too much? He's bringing the ball up. He's holding it for 20 seconds. That's not too much. Okay, well, then that's on you. I mean, that's what you've been doing your whole career. That's what you've been doing your whole career.

But he don't have that now. He don't have to worry about that. So you're saying there's no excuse. He didn't have to worry about that. Are you saying there's no excuse for him to be injured in this? He shouldn't. Because he always has an injury. Well, he's going to come on the show,

so y'all can ask him yourself. Wait, when's he coming? That's fine with me. I want to post can we mediate man bring everybody bring everybody You'll bring everybody to be having The same fucking energy when they come everybody come in, you know Pat Bev come in, you know dream on green coming Dream on coming. I saw Katie yesterday. He said allegedly he's coming Mm-hmm had to run all for the show. You gotta start pausing on this. Yeah, we the best. That's all I know is

All right, I see what's going on Until next week. I'm bringing this tool. I'm just I'm gonna show you what we are. Can I say here on out? Go ahead. We saw what you got. I got something for your ass. All right, so I'm bringing this tool. I'm just saying. And I'm going to show you what we on. Can I say? From here on out. Go ahead, Rashad. What you got? I got something for y'all asses. All right. So I'm going on what Gil was just talking about. Mr. B. CP being himself, right? Mm-hmm. Injecting himself into the team.

I'm always the type that's like, all right, what does the team need from a guy like CP? What did they lose in Jordan? What are they going to need? They don't need CP to be what Draymond is. Nope. Right? That's going to be a clash. So what is CP going to do when he gets to the team that the team needs where he can actually deliver?

The one thing that we have all agree is him being healthy. Period. Right. We need you to be healthy. So that means are they going to play him those minutes? Like you say, he's doing too much. I agree. He was doing too much on those teams. Now he don't have to do a whole lot, so he should be reserved enough to play in the playoffs. Now, what is it that you're bringing to the team that the team needs? That's the question. What the fuck is CP going to give the Warriors that they don't have,

that they really, really need, that's open for him to be comfortable doing where he can be valuable He can what is that a uniform game management and he's like a man game management hit open shots Yeah, I don't even know All get double T. It is about you know, no getting him getting yes It is him getting open shots for everyone else is gonna be no no Running the second unit is gonna be the reason the The reason the other guys are going to be open shots is if he hits his shots,

because we already know Steph's going to get doubled sometimes. We already know Klay's going to demand a certain amount of attention. So when CP3 hits an open shot, that means you can't shed, you can't fade over in case he passed up. This nigga's hitting shots, You got to be right here. You got to risk it.

You got to gamble on who's going to hit the shots. They're going to be good together. But that's not an assessment. Like that second unit. CP is going to be the point guard. Yeah, but he's going to be wide open. Do you think he's coming off the bench or is he starting? It don't matter.

I'm not talking about this breeze. I'm not talking about this movie. He's going to be the one getting in the lane and they're coming and he's passing. CP is not going to be the liability. He's not going to be the liability. He's not going to be the liability nigga that's like, we need you to hit the shot. He's not going to be that. You guys are missing my point. You're missing

my point. We already know who Steph and Klay are as shooters, right? We already know that. We know what Draymond brings. Those are the big three of that team. When Chris Paul is standing alone, which is going to happen a lot. He's not going to be alone. He's not going to be alone. He's Chris Paul is standing alone, which is going to happen a lot. I'm going to be alone.

He's not going to be alone. He's not going to be alone. He's Chris Paul. He's Chris Paul. I'm going to say yeah. I'm going to say yeah. He's not Eric Snow. Yeah, I know I talked to him, but basketball, we're not going to do that. We're talking about two different types of Steph.

We're talking about a Steph on the ball. We're talking about a Steph off the ball. Steph is going to play more off the ball now. Yeah. Okay. So when he's off the ball, there's a pass again pass. What I know from basketball is when Steph has passed the ball to somebody, he's run off those screens and all that.

There's a double team that comes when he gets the ball. Somebody else is open a lot. He can swing that right back. That's going to be Chris Paul. Whether it's a three-pointer, whether it's a mid-range, anything. If he hits that shot, that creates a whole other defense of the other team.

There's never been a time where Chris Paul hasn't hit. They're going to need Chris Paul when they play Denver. He's not there. He's not there in those moments. In the playoffs, he's not there to hit shots. He's not on the court. Should they low-man manage him during the season?

When we talk about low from an age standpoint. No, just like Gil said, though, he won't have to do as much. He don't have to. Because he's on the second unit. So I think he'll be. Personally, I think he'll be fine. I think he'll run the second unit fine. He's going to be.

Klay's going to have big ass numbers. Yeah. Kaminga. All those guys. Looney. Looney. they're going to have easy buckets because of him.

Chris Paul might average eight points. It's just going to be nasty that he got to get his first ring when he goes to state. Who cares? That's it. Who cares? Ask Chris Paul if he would trade that ring.

For what? Let's just hypothetically Ask Chris Paul if he would trade that ring. Ask him. For what? Let's just hypothetically, because I don't think they're going to win a ring this year. He would trade that ring for the ring against Milwaukee. Wait, wait, wait, what? If he won a ring this year, he would trade that ring for the one he lost.

Yeah, against Milwaukee. For the money, though. He was a guy then. For the money. Yeah, huh? For the money. For the money? You got to ask him when he done.

Yeah. Ask him when he pull up. Nah, ask him now. But now, let's talk a little bit. Just keep going, man. I'll feed you into that shit, man. Don't do it. Don't do it.

Don't do it. Let's talk about a little bit of this Warrior squad and Anthony Edwards. So, Ant fresh off getting that big bag. Said he would love to see the Warriors in the playoffs next season when asked why he said because Draymond talks too much shit Definitely going back to the playoffs and going further in the playoffs to Go verse the war. I won't play the Warriors. I'm gonna get some worries wherever they I want to get to them I mean could Draymond talk so much trash. That's pretty much the only reason. Nah, he has just...

Draymond is not even the most important... Is Anthony Edwards poking the wrong bear with that? Absolutely. Poking the wrong bear? First of all... Is he poking the wrong bear by saying he wants... He's saying nothing about playing... He's saying nothing about playing stuff.

First of all... By saying he wants the Warriors, though, they're going to take it as a slag. First of all, get out the first round That's it like stop talking about he got the type of dogs. Yeah, you don't him There's squad, you know when when the player says that it's all about him he gonna have a sturdy So then just go ask for a one-on-one. He'll have a sturdy. This will ask for a fade what you said. That's for faith It's the heat

When they asked you what what y'all gonna do it gets easy. We're gonna go in there. We're gonna play hard. We're gonna win We're gonna win and then D Wade and them heard that shit. Yeah each other for one Yeah, I actually watched that clip I was How'd you do as a player there I mean I did he poked a bear he poked him You put the whole team. Yeah, we was I mean we're just playing gets my brawn and then they own They way to win another championship. I'm over here like yo, we Let's get at least like, you know by game so we come back to Miami they got us out of here for Did you really believe that that when you said it? Huh?

Did you really believe that that was possible? Yeah, every time I say something, I believe it. But that's in time, right? This is like July. I believe I'm the greatest. Like, come on, bro. Straight up. I'm going to say it up.

I like Ant's confidence. It's just like he's in Minnesota's graveyard city. He got enough confidence to believe that shit. But if you ain't got them hitters, you don't have it So are you saying that but are you thinking about the hitters you have before you're making comments like that? No, he's thinking about him. He think About me. I was thinking about me because Miami twice There's a good chance they see them in the first round. Yes first round probably for one he had 30

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's my thinking man what I'm gonna do to them Personally not like the actual like win of this. Yeah. Yeah. No, you just want to shut Draymond up. That's all he's like, man Now Draymond gonna amplify it like he's gonna see that be like, oh I know what the dude to get this little nigga Said I mean, they got a decent team. Yeah, this is not there yet. They got a Browse said that no Toughest. Yes, they did. I said that But he's just like her hate. I just don't him but I also feel like that's because they didn't take them serious either No, Bruce Brown had to guard him. That's yeah, he gave him all 31 They do have a playing champion

If they could get some more pieces though Timberwolves they get a couple more good pieces He's only 23 though. Like if he was like so 26 or yeah, I'd be like, yeah, but he still got he still got Jump man, like just looking at his how his career has progressed, he might do some shit this year. I don't think he'll get over it at Warriors, huh? Well, the fact that he's not ducking the smoke, he's aggressive with it. I love that. And he's a nice guy.

He's a really nice guy, though. You say you don't see him playing in Minnesota forever? No. Nah, he out of there. Nah, he's out of there. He out of there. He's out of there in a couple more years. Do like Minnesota did, come to LA.

Yeah. Go to Atlanta. We only got like seven lakes in LA, I'm gonna be real. Seven lakes? Lake Elsinore, Lake Walsh, a lot of kids die there. I see you got a lot more shit down there, right? That's cool. It's time to go. But you see the slashers

do it. Mostly fans. Go to mostly fans. Let's go. So I can the slashers through it. Mostly fans. Yeah, no. Yeah, go to mostly fans. Mostly fans, let's go. Let's go. So I can take my nap, because I got to get a win. Yeah, let him get his. You don't have to tell me twice. Let him get his nap. Let him get his little nap in so he don't have no excuses. Now it's time for Gil's favorite segment, mostly fans.

We ask y'all to drop in questions. Ask y'all to put your underdog usernames in there, too, for a chance to win a $50 bonus. Can we get some? But some of y'all niggas lazy, so I already know y'all didn't do this shit. And some of you haven't downloaded the app already, so jokes on you. Because we're going to read some of these questions.

They don't have a username attached to it. We are pocketing that money. Yeah, give it to us. If they don't, look at this motherfucker. You know what? That already, the fact that you swung your ass. Pause. Pause.

You're going to hit the ball two feet. I don't have nobody to worry about you. Okay. Okay. Okay, cool. Cool. I'm going to hit the ball two feet. I have nobody to worry about you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Cool. Cool.

Come on. Cool. Bad. First question is from J Swan. It says, go underdog fantasy. This is J Swan from Milwaukee. BJ, why don't you get Giannis to come on the show? You can take Gilda to the Mills Burbs if he doesn't have to have the heart to go to the hood. Yeah.

So. I think I'm a hillside. I don't know. That's the comment. That's what I'm trying to do next year. Why don't you bring Giannis on the show? Yeah, I think we're trying to come out there. I know I got a collab with them coming next year, Bucks and Six.

We're running it back. So hopefully we can do it in March and y'all come out. That was the question? He get 50 bucks for that? No. No username, no bread. He said Bucks and Six.

50 in the Gills Arena bucket. Yeah. Okay, first of all, listen, when y no bread. He said books and 50 in the gills arena bucket. Yeah. Okay. First of all, let's just Listen, we y'all come to Milwaukee. I got y'all. What happened? What happened? Oh, I got y'all. What happened? I got what last year you talk about last year This year you had a juice this year Boy had the juice last year. No, he's on the wind I got the which I did Hey, hey, I'm trying to even Harry Potter I got crumb but Harry Potter flies around his own street Hey Harry Potter flies around on this what what we're here to fly around on. I don't know. I don't want to think it's a broom

Milwaukee didn't get sweet. We didn't get so we lost the party. Definitely. Oh the Lakers did No, we did. You know what? That was a wrong next question from J-Dub. No, that's not a good question. Next question, Mr. Speak on it says, who deserves a ring more, Barkley, Iverson, or Carmelo? Iverson. Iverson. Iverson.

Everybody's going to say Iverson. Iverson. That's not a vote. Iverson. Why? AI? He carried a team. He just happened to run into the Lakers. If AI get a ring at six foot, that changes everybody's mentality.

I'm going to go with Melo. You're getting tatted. Chuck is my man. Chuck is my man. Who would you pick then? I'm picking Melo. Why? Because he strived to do a whole lot from where he was expected to do.

Like if he wins a chip, think about it. He was supposed to go to Detroit. Doesn't go to Detroit. Goes to where he goes, tries to take that team. Then he goes to New York, tries to take that team. Then he gets banned from the league. Then he's still a top 10 all-time score like that the accomplishments the perseverance all the things they had do

Chuck is Chuck Chuck don't do it hey hey I was supposed to get I supposed to go to prison yes he wouldn't even post a he wouldn't be what we wouldn't post a CA yeah it was sorry what that was a bullet that was a bowling alley thing that was some shit that he didn't do He wasn't exactly and they made him go sit down and miss his whole senior put that a part of the story But that like Chuck did everything that Chuck could do no to get to where everything Everything outside of Chuck's control affected him from getting a chip He got there right but mellow like if mellow gets that chip his he writes his whole

His whole story because of who he's up against, D-Wade and LeBron. You know who Melo is? These are two niggas- He was up against Kobe. Yo, you know who A.I. was up against? I was against Kobe. I understand all that, but these niggas came in with Melo. Next to him. His whole

legacy is compared to LeBron James. Well, that's his fault. The all time- That's his fault. The all-time... That's his fault. That's what I'm saying. So if you give Melo the chip, his whole career, the outlook of all of that shit changes because now...

It's a little confusing. Now it's different. But so does AI, though. I'm not saying that it doesn't. I'm just saying I'm giving it to Melo because it changes a lot. Ask the chat that, who they're giving it to.

I want to know. I want to know. Who the chat will pick. Ask the chat who the... Barkley, Barkley, Melo, or to. I wanna know. I wanna know, who the chat will pick. For the hoop, who does Gil, who you think? Barclay, Melo, or I. I mean, for the hoop world itself, I think everyone will go with A.I.

because he's the one who let everybody, like what he did, everyone got to be, there was no arm sleeves and all them tats before he got in. A dress code. Cornrows. Right, so he's more of the iconic that changed perception so for the masses i'm pretty sure they're gonna pick yeah who do you pick we're asking the chat as we speak gil who did you pick probably yeah yeah ai's winning right

now it's very early on 100 oh damn y'all be getting into chat good job chat yes getting these questions are good Then these votes are hitting the average is leading right now. They're 58 percent through 330 votes that was like a Question was mellow AI who your Barkley mellow Iverson so my homegirls So a couple of my girlfriends that are sports reporters also and sports fans, this is a plus to the chat, but they talk about how they feel like their questions are never going to get seen because there's just so many people in the chat.

Like they write questions and they're like, you got to like write it like 75 times just to even like get recognized. I said, get your fucking typing up. Yeah, download. I mean, they might get blocked, though. You know, I'm ready to block a lot of them. We should block a lot of them. Download the app.

There's a lot of girls. Check out all the women in the chat. That's what we need to do. You download the app, you get a question. Yeah. If you don't, then you get blocked. Let me tell them. Let me make sure I tell them this.

What was the one guy? The average Gaspi. You see how bad he is? He's still a citizen. How are you going to put Gaspi on your name? You average. Let me make sure you get blocked because they was the one guy the average Gatsby Put gasp your name Average call me thumbledore today. So yo I'll just look at the chat clown to me occasionally, but I think that encourages me to do it more not understanding I'm sensitive sensitive and light-skinned and I'm going to go think about this shit for the rest of the day. Then I'm going to check the direct deposit, the underdog business. And you feel better.

I feel a lot better. I feel better. But Chad, you guys are, again, very mean-spirited. I like them though. I like them. I like the positive of the Chad. Who's picking the answers, the questions? Our producer. And they can't see who's Do they not know the question is because he said that's not a good question didn't it?

Do we have one more like somebody asked about the Steph dog, I don't know if we've all seen it we should do a screen He can hear you he said he said he said a bunch of n-words. Damn He would never do that man of the people never around us let he said you could pick the question if you want to though That was a general sentiment Milwaukee Bucks fan so you go here the real man of the people but last question is and this is gonna be annoying So we're about 35 minutes now but from just the blessed The question is would you rather be D Wade with career earnings of 200 million dollars in three rings or mellow with career earnings of? 260 million dollars is how many how much 200 200 200 million three rings or 260 zero ring

Let's see the 60 million difference. I'm going with the one way. Okay. Okay You just proved our point because the way way took less money to get a ring You say you pick money over rings is no money no you said which player I pick right 60 million Oh the way where Camilla Anthony? Yeah. Oh don'twyane Wade. 60 million. Dwyane Wade with 200 mil and three rings or Carmelo with 260 and zero? Yeah, Dwyane Wade. Why, Gil? I see your mind working. I'm not going to say anything.

I'm just going to be quiet. Why would you pick D. Wade in that? Exactly. There's 60 million. Carmelo's legacy is he's at home with his son, and the other one's legacy is still making about 10 million a year. Oh, so now it's the after the retirement. You said which player. And I know what's the... No, he said the money and the Oh, so now it's the after the retirement. You said which player.

And I know what's the... No, he said the money and the ring. He ain't talking about after the career. No, he didn't say money or ring. He said money or ring or you said career. No, I said D-Wade's career. The career. 200 million.

No. Basketball career. Or Melo career. You didn't say basketball career. You said career. No. See... So what, Carmelo's career is over?

That's what you're saying? I mean, yeah. What is he doing? What career is over? Is that what you're saying? I mean, yeah. What is he doing? What is he doing? Okay, so let's cut that out. Is it a TV show? A TV show?

He's making about $10 million a year. Cut that out. Cut that out. Carmelo just did a commercial. You can't change the question. Sorry, you can't change the question. The question is the question. I heard it clear.

So before we leave today, Chad, we need to have a heart-to-heart. Can't change it to career or on court. NBA career. We need to have a heart-to-heart with the chat. We don't know

your educational background, socioeconomic background, any of that shit, but questions have been garbage. So y'all need to really dig down deep together, work those connections,

and come up with some good shit. Block them. What numbers are we getting? Block them. This shit sucks to get blocked. Block them. How many people was in the chat?

That's alpaca. Block that shit. Like on Twitter. I'll be blocking people. It'd be the two numbers. It'd be a... I think I need to put the titties out more. No, no, no.

Tuesdays is always good because it's... Start of the week. Needs missed us. Don't act like it's not good. Wednesdays are good, too. We have a special guest tomorrow. We're not going to say the name yet, but we're going to have guest filters throughout the rest of this. We have a special guest tomorrow. We're not going to say the name yet, but, you know, we're going to have guest filters

throughout the rest of this. You got a special guest? This is Gil's Arena Summer. I'm bringing a guest, too. I have a guest. We'll be... Hey, chat. I have a guest that I want to bring.

Hey, chat, chat. Let me just show you how, like, these three. Oh, God. These two. Okay, okay. Thank you, Gilbert. Yeah, these two.

Do that to me. I had young... We would have had young GZ. We would have Easy to enter. Yeah, we would have young GZ on the show yesterday But two out of the three these two right here decided what likes Gucci man You not even putting all the information. I don't put that on me. Let him finish. Let him finish. Let him finish. McCants is like, hell yeah. BMF. One talking about he was snowman.

He like Gucci man from when he was little. First of all, I did not say Gucci. I said Gucci. He said Rick Ross. I was a Rick Ross fan. Oh, yeah, Rick Ross. And Bill, are you going to take responsibility for your car? Ross is top five.

Are you going to take your responsibility? Dead or alive. Responsibility. You didn't give us the information. Do I going to take responsibility for your part? Ross is top five. Are you going to take your responsibility? Dead or alive. Responsibility. You didn't give us the information. Do I need to? Yes. Nope. Yes, you do.

Yes, you do. Because look, as soon as he said it, what happened? Yes, you do. What happened as soon as he said it? He said yes. Y'all got to hate me. You have to give me. Immediately.

As soon as he said it. No, I did not. I asked questions. What the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck?

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What the fuck are we going to ask him? What is his best song? We don't even know his songs. I didn't say any of that. I asked questions first. What was you going to ask him? What did you say you was going to ask him? That was a joke. But I did say I was going to ask, how are you friends with Gucci and he killed your mans? I did say that. But my point was, when somebody comes into our show,

this is a show, a two-hour show, and somebody says, all we can give you is 15 minutes. And I asked you three times, I said, is he talking hoops? Multiple times. You never responded. You never responded. I said, what's 15 minutes? It's Jeezy, the snowman. There was one question I did want to know, though.

I did want to know was, what was Jeezy's best song here? Hold on. This is, let me go back. I said, y'all want Jeezy, y'all want Young Jeezy for like 15 or 20 minutes boom what I say for what? Know what I see no hoops, right? If y'all want them because I don't have nothing else. I'm a Rick Ross fan. And then what'd I say after that? And I'm a Gucci fan. And what'd I say after that?

BMF, I'm with it. And then keep going. And then I wrote, well, I'll tell them no then. No, you skipped the whole hour. No, I said I'll tell them no then. Yeah, no, that's how the first vortex went before he was swayed. Because it was two on one. It was like he asked all three of us texts went. Okay before he was wait, it was two Oh one it was like he asked all three of us. Okay

You know He's lying you skipped no, I had the snowman shirt in high school. Yeah, that's the biggest I was that do dirties I was playing video games. I would slowly respond your text. We're playing Madden to 12 To 17 I responded it. I mean, I mean. Yo, what's Dizzy's best song? 9-912-917. And I responded at 918. And I'll tell them no.

And then y'all kept writing and doing all that. And does he talk loose? That's your favorite one? Why would he want to give us that short amount of time? I asked you again. You're lying. You're lying. You're lying. Literally, I said, the first thing I said was,

the first thing I said was, does he talk hoops? Does he know hoops? Right? For what? Does he know hoops? Uh-huh. And then my next comment was, for what does he know hoops? I'm a Gucci fan.

What was my next comment? Does he know hoops? Again. No, no, no. What was my text message before all of that? I don't know. It says, I'll tell them no then. That was it.

It don't matter. I said, I'll tell them no then. That was so fast. Yeah, because it was one, two, three. I asked the question. You never answered the question. You never answered the question. I read y'all smoke. He liked Rick Ross. You liked Gucci, man. You never answered the question I'm from Englewood. Don't fucking play. Did you live in Atlanta? For a job. Dog, Gigi's best song, he's a feature on.

This is what I said. Hey, Z-Yo, you see chat? You see why? You see the smoke? I'm just saying. What you think? They gave a lot of smoke. They gave a lot of smoke. I don't care.

You know it must have been smoke. Bro, this is Gil's arena. Everybody can come in here and get it. Sit down and come in here and be respectful. We earned our stripes. Yes. Shit. God damn it.

We earned our damn stripes. So if I got a question and I got something to Shit. God damn it. We earned our damn stripes. So if I got a question and I got something to ask you, answer it. I asked you three times. I want to know. I asked you three times. Can you talk? You never answered the question. Why do you think I did this job?

I said, yes, he does. Yes, he knows hoops. Because rappers love hoopers. I did say all of that. He did say that. I did. But I was done after that. He did say that. I did. But he had an answer. But I was done after that.

And then six hours later, what does Gilbert say? I even took a whole flight from Florida to Los Angeles and then you said, oh, well, he wanted to come on and promote his book because I kept saying,

why don't we let somebody come on for 15 minutes? That's disrespectful. That's crazy. We need 22 minutes to leave. And look, once I say... Hey, yo, y'all should have

Katie and Chris Walkman sit right here next to know what once I say tell them no I'll tell them no then Go back to the chat. I gave it to y'all y'all responded quick. Whatever. I'm good And then you don't say I think I'll stab it at oh, he just want to come talk about his book for 20 minutes Well, why did you say that? Why you said it again? We talked about sports. He wants to come on. I want to hear about his book for 20 minutes. Well, why did you say that in the beginning? Why did you say that in the beginning? He said, before we talk about sports, he wants to come on the show. I wanted to hear about the book.

You should have said that. I know his life change. I want the book. I actually wanted the book. You don't think you should have said that from the beginning? He set y'all up. No, no, if I said, yo,

hey, Tiger Woods want to come through, I would have spanked him. Hell yeah. He's an athlete. What that nigga don't talk about? He's an athlete. I'm a Mike Nicholson fan. I would have been like, where's little Charlie?

I would have said, where's Charlie? What you said was, he wasn't talking about his book before we even get into the sports. You said that six hours later. It didn't matter. No, he did. No, no, no. He did say that six hours later.

Six hours later. It was too late. If you would have said he was going to come over here and talk about the book I would have The funny part was when he said damn y'all turning down celebrity Celebrity Well hold the fly GZ you always have a bit invited to come on girls arena a lot of other use that been ducking us We waiting for Pat bad. We want to get that already said yeah Beth said he coming I told you I put up on Katie yesterday

He touched down in LA he here Should we Chris Paul said he did he said I was the number Yes, we'll see y'all tomorrow thank y'all for pulling up the new presented by Underdog Fantasy Book. I'm going to show you what it is. Have a broadcast. I'm going to show you. I'm going to show you what it is. I'm going to show you.