Gil's Arena - Haliburton's HISTORIC Triple Double BLOWS AWAY Gil's Arena

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

Haliburton's HISTORIC Triple Double BLOWS AWAY Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Tyrese Haliburton's insane stat line to lift the Indiana Pacers to a 3-1 lead over the New York Knicks in the Eastern Conference Finals and debate if the Indiana Pacers' do it all point guard has sealed his status as an NBA Superstar with this incredible run in the NBA Playoffs. They then highlight how teams like the Pacers and OKC Thunder are proving you need more than just star power to win in the NBA Playoffs before breaking down what went wrong for Jalen Brunson, Karl Anthony-Towns & The rest of the Knicks as their dream run through the NBA Playoffs ended in disappointment. Next, they welcome comedian Rickey Smiley to the Arena to break down his career in comedy and relationship with Katt Williams following his explosive Club Shay Shay interview before previewing tonight Western Conference Finals game where Shai Gilgeous Alexander looks to finish off Anthony Edwards & The Minnesota Timberwolves and snatch the title of face of the NBA. Finally, they get real on why the NBA MVP has never had tattoos and analyze the parity going on in the association as the league looks to crown it's 7th unique champion in 7 years. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rickey Smiley, Brandon Jennings & Nick Young Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/Arena and get $15 off your first order Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE:    / @gilsarena   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord  0:00:00 - 2 Min Countdown 0:01:56 - Show Start 0:02:38 - Gil Is Done Being A Bandwagon Fan 0:08:03 - The NBA HATES Players With Tattoos 0:15:19 - Swaggy P Crashes The Conversation 0:18:55 - Haliburton's Historic Triple Double Sinks The Knicks 0:33:46 - Rickey Smiley Enters The Arena 0:37:08 - Haliburton Is A Do It All Point Guard 0:41:41 - How Much Has The Game Changed? 0:53:58 - Rickey Smiley Bought A Joke For $5K & Forgot It 0:54:51 - Gil's Arena Debates If Haliburton Is An NBA Superstar 1:15:24 - Rickey On Shooting Friday After Next With Katt Williams 1:28:24 - The Return Of John Haliburton 1:30:44 - Pat McAfee Pumps Up The Indiana Pacers' Crowd 1:33:17 - What Went Wrong For The Knicks 1:43:43 - 5:04:21 PM 1:52:59 - Pacers Fans Troll KAT 1:57:13 - 50 Cent Wears "Free Diddy Shirt" 1:59:19 - The Timberwolves MUST Win Game 5 2:08:12 - Charles Barkley Calls SGA The Face Of The NBA 2:26:34 - SGA Won't Dap Up Pat Bev 2:30:01 - MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Appreciate all that. This is Gills Arena presented by Underdog. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arena here with us. I'm representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, longtime Tyrese Halliburton fan, Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. You! Back on the couch. You! For sure, for sure.

You! He won, that boy looked like it last night, didn't he? He do look like it. Yeah, we gonna get into that. I had to jump off, I had to jump off. Jump off, Ben, where you know you off to? I jumped off both, man. You, you, free and clear are the Pacers in the Knicks?

Yeah, man, I'm just be honest with you, man, they don't appreciate the type of fan I both, man. Free and clear are the Pacers and the Knicks? Yeah, man, I'm just be honest with you, man. They don't appreciate the type of fan I am, man. I'm like, I'm supposed to be treated with high class around this bitch, right? And the fact that they think I'm a regular, I'm like them, like a regular fan. No, I go over and beyond my fandom, right? I pain, I can't sleep at night, I show up early,

but I bite front rows, I hackled the other player Huh? I talk about their parents and the ugly ass. Yes, that's the type of fan I am In the fact that they treating me like I'm just like being wagon both sides It's like you know what? I'm just gonna stick with the Laker nation. We're going on 20 something years, but I don't think I need an East Coast team. If I'm gonna be an East Coast fan, I'm just going with the Wiz Nation. I'm just going with the Wiz kids.

Right, you know what I mean? That's all I'm gonna go with. I'm just gonna have to suffer for 20, 30, 40, 50 years because I don't think we're gonna win anytime. If you stay with the Wiz, you're feeling the way they hate you. But you know what? I'm gonna be loyal. Yeah, just stay loyal, man. You know what? So thank you Pacers fans. Yeah, just stay loyal, man. You know what?

So thank you Pacers fans. I appreciate you. Knicks fans, I appreciate your kindness. But y'all fuck the fuck off. Y'all going to be real with you. So nobody on the West? Huh? So nobody on the West right now?

In the Western Conference, you're not going over there? You're just going home? No, no. OKC. On the West. OK. OK. No, I just got my membership.

You got to remember, they beat the enemy of our enemy That's just my friend. Okay, gotcha. All right, you know, they beat on the Lakers We go after all this bandwagon jumping. Why should Lakers nation take you back? Take me back. Are you just never left? Motherfuck? I was hit way before you But no you came with Lebron. Y'all came like 2018. Do you got an LA tattoo on your chest? No, sir. Do you got a Laker tattoo?

Right here, sir. LA in the buildings right here. Laker tattoo? Yeah, you didn't even know that. You didn't even know I had that. I got a Laker tattoo. OK. Yo, I'm trying to be the face of host

so I can't have tattoos. My first tattoo. I'm trying to be the face of Nation right here, man. I will Lakers be back 2026. You just got here. You ain't LeBron James. We're staying We're gonna stay for the foreseeable future and we got Bronnie We have blessed Laker Nation with our presence before all the fans out there We still got two viewing options for you our traditional version mobile vertical version pick which one you want to watch just make sure you support the show here's what's cracking in the arena

today Tyrese Halliburton put together a historic performance with his pops back in the building to move the Pacers to one win away from the NBA finals has this playoff run elevated Halle to superstar status we will discuss Ant-Man and the Wolves heading to game five at the Western Conference finals facing a 3-1 deficit What does Minnesota need to do to keep their season alive? And Charles Barkley says SGA is taking over as the face of the NBA But is that facts or cap? I like it. She's facing that photo He's even surprised but before we get into all that as as always, the show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead, download the AppUse promo code GIL.

Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. As for tonight, Western Conference Finals Game 5. Mr. B has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let's take a look, if we can, please. You got Ant-Man higher, 27.5 points. SGA lower, 8.5 free throws made. Very bold, Mr. B.

They say he a free throw merchant, you think it's gonna be similar to game three when he only shot four times? 8.5, I think maybe seven. You got Chad Holmgren, higher 1.5 three pointers made, Julius Randall missing his first three point attempt, lower on the point five there. Jalen Williams coming off that 34 point performance, higher 1.5 three-pointers made. If you use Mr. B's

partner pack you can win nearly 15 times your bread. Gil, how you feeling about Mr. B's picks for this evening West Coast Conference Finals? Game five back in OKC, your current favorite West Coast Conference team. I like it. The Randolph one is a little bit, uh, because he missed his first one. Don't even worry about that one. It's that Ant-Man up there, man. I'm pretty sure you got to, this closeout game, man.

So he gonna shoot? Yeah, he gonna shoot. But is it gonna go in? I don't think he gonna go on the closeout without 20 or more. 30 pcs for the closeout games. Mr. B, we asked the chat if they were riding or fading with your picks tonight. I regret to inform you that 55% of the chat, 54 now not rolling with your picks. Damn! 45% now, the numbers are rolling. They were rolling. Almost the majority. No, it don't even matter.

Because you know what I mean, if they win, then you know, this 54 was... 54 lost the roll. I mean, you can pick some. Yeah, you know what, you can pick some. Yeah, like you can pick like maybe two from mine, two from somebody. Like we just give you some options, you know?

So if you like our picks and want to roll with them head over to Underdog. I forgot to make my picks. If you do not have Underdog download the app use promo code GIL get up to a thousand dollars in bonus cash plus special pickup and if you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube we have audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So SGA MVP this year and with him winning MVP this season not only does it extend the streak of foreign-born MVPs to seven straight foreign-born MVPs, there's also another interesting streak going on. The last nine MVPs haven't had any visible tattoos. This list includes SGA three-time

winner Nicole Jokic, Embiid two-time winner Yanis Ananakumpo, James Harden and Russell Westbrook. So start with you Mr. B, is it just a coincidence that the last nine MVPs haven't had tattoos or is there a deeper message here? I don't know if it's a deeper message. I just think that they're just the best. They've just been the best players that year. They just happen to not have tattoos. It's been a long streak though. Wait. But that is have tattoos. It's been a long streak, though. But that is a good. What's been a long streak? No visible tattoos on MVPs.

Say that list again, because you're missing two people. Why? You're missing Curry, and you're missing KD. This list includes SGA, Nicole Jokic, MB, Yanis, James Harden, Russell Westbrook. Okay, and where's Curry? And where is KD? They would not be a part of the last nine MVPs list. So nine total MVPs. Nine, the last nine years. Oh, you just, why wouldn't you just say 10, 11, 12?

Why wouldn't you just add them? Because that is not a part of the street. Why not? Because they didn't have tattoos when they won the MVP either. So you're looking at Steph Curry's tattoos now. The little ones here. He didn't have a tattoo when he won the MVP. KD didn't have a tattoo when he won the MVP.

I don't know, does KD even have visible tattoo still, besides on his arm? But he didn't have it when, when he won the MVP, this is when you win it, right? When he won the MVP, he didn't have a tattoo. There's only actually been, I mean, if you want to just go deeper since 1960 60 70 80 there's only really been what five people that one tattoo that one in the piece having tattoos

Shaquille O'Neal would have been the first Allen Iverson Cove Brawn, but they cope get it. Oh Oh no, no, you're right. KG. Right? There was only be the five people with tattoos that actually won the MVP in the last 40, 50, 60 years.

Your chest saying that KD did have tattoos when he won MVP. Are you sure? What was the tattoo? I think he had tattoos on his chest. I did say visible. That was the key word. You said visible, right? So what was his visible tattoo? When you won your MVP, did you have our...

Nah. Nah. You all showed me a message from Kevin Wayne Durant himself. See, I... Nah. Nah. He said nah. Nah. I'm just.

I love that you can just hit these dudes up in the DLs. I think they just think sometimes I just make it up. No, I do not doubt that. But that, I went back to see who was the, so there's only really been five. So that's the, so winning the MVP with tags is shit. That's what I said, I don't think it's deeper. I just think it's, they're just better. That's what I said, I don't think it's deeper. I just think it's better.

That's the rarity at this point. Not being clean. Clean has been just the... Yeah, I don't think so. You talk Carmelo and talk about Charles. Yeah, I don't think it's nothing deeper. So no deeper message there? Cause yeah, oh yeah, shit Rose won one, right?

You had tattoos. Oh yeah yeah, shit Rose won one right? You had tattoos? Oh yeah Rose. Rose won one. Why would he be forgetting about Rose? Listen I think once, I think when Shaq won it, I mean it's just a game man. If you have the game, you have the game. And most of these guys that are playing today, or just playing, they got better shit to do than sit there with a whole bunch of tats. I mean, it's... I mean, the face of the league for the last, what, couple years had tattoos, LeBron James, so.

Are you still considered a LeBron? It's the same one person. You know what I mean? So even with Cole. I mean, then with Steph, with Steph? Even the tattooed Cole guy, it was, you know, more because of his wife versus being a part of, you know, what he thought was cool. All right, KG. It ain't deep, man.

I'm just better than you. And I just don't have tattoos. Like if Jason Tatum wins one, clean. If Luca wins one, he's clean. Bronson wins one, he's clean. If Halle wins one, he's clean. I mean, there's really, you know. And you think those people have legitimate cases? I mean, the way they play, yeah.

Where they're playing currently. OK. I mean, you can see Tatum tats, but not on. There's this. Yeah, he has tats. Oh, OK. I mean, you can see Tatum Tats, but not on. Who's this? Yeah, T.S. Tats. Oh, okay. Okay, so there's a thing that, okay, so like, even with me, right, I don't have visible tats.

I have corporate tats, and that's what I called them back then, corporate tats, where you like the ideal of tats, you just keep them under your jersey, so if corporate America still wants to use you, they can use you. that was a big thing Yeah In your day because that's what we was told coming into league like yo make sure you get You know, it makes you a bit your tattoos are a bit

I was that was a conversation that you had come in. Oh, yeah But I already had you know, my agent build up yet So he was like, you know be careful on the tattoos and you know so much with with companies and things like that So you were you were told to just have tattoos like, not visible. Man, it's so- I said, fuck it. It's crazy because no one tells these kids in high school, right? Like that high school age is when kids wanna be cool.

And that's when you get them and that's like yo hey don't just you know just for branding purposes later on yeah right 90% of y'all the tattoos will affect you in the marketplace when they're trying to see who you are the little ones you're fine with the little ones right you know these little ones that Steph end up getting there's a reason but the big sleeves and stuff corporate America them sponsors there They don't they don't fuck with it still right it for some reason on our color skin Just be honest right if if you're a Caucasian you you fall into the rockstar look the David Beckham

You know what I mean you fall into that look Well, you know Just I mean? You fall into that look. But you know, just reality, we're thugs, right? It's still, that's the look of it still. So you have to be careful when you get tats. Now, there's gonna be outliers, of course. And that's the super, super, super talented. It doesn't matter right? It's like David Beckham.

They were trying to get him. Maybe he had to be all covered up from here. Maybe he played. Maybe he had to cover all that shit. Like you know when you're talking about somebody like Zion. You're talking about somebody like John Moran. They're gonna beat him. So it don't work.

Ladies and gentlemen. The star of the guild's arena has made his his entrance NBA champion of the world Swaggy Pete in the building with the bootleg. Like Derrick Rose. There's guys whose game, their game is so appealing that the tats don't matter. I mean, it's AI. AI, yeah. You know what I mean? He was the only one

to get it. Yeah, LeBron, Kobe, right. There's just certain players that you know, their game itself, just no one. The corporate of America don't care. Yeah. So does that, what it all really goes on? As long as you ain't got it like, I ain't never seen like a super superstar with all neck tattoos.

Nah, nah. Yeah. AI? Tattoos on the only, except for me. I'm the only super superstar. AI had the tattoo right there on the neck. That was the only, probably AI. That was a stick back in like, early 2000s.

But that's what I said. Yeah. All right, well. Yeah. I had the time right there. That was that was only big back early 2000s My game ain't got a touch right no no He did was on his personal. I look like you do got him Do I just think about now he don't if you heard him talking like he definitely got some touch He definitely tied it all right, so no deeper meaning there. But today's podcast is sponsored by Ro.

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You know, I call beat him like a man these your condoms he caught the idea He's like, yeah You damn you ain't use them yet Give the chat is saying that this is now zest the arena and speaking of zest school speaking of zest cat help the You not fully clean it till your zest fully clean. I love a sponsor get that sponsor you write that down right that down Cat help the Knicks keep their season alive with the dominant fourth quarter on Dominican Mother's Day to make the series 2-1 It was the Knicks third 20-point comeback win on the road this postseason as the Pacers dropped their first clutch game in the playoffs. But Indiana welcomed back one of their biggest fans for game four with Tyrese Halliburton's

dad's suspension being lifted after eight games. They said his daddy could come back to the game, ladies and gentlemen. Halle also flew out Hans Perez, the New York firefighter who was bum-rushed by Knicks fans after their serious clinching win over the Celtics. Hines had the audacity to wear a Halliburton jersey on the streets of New York. Learned the hard way. He was a firefighter? He was a firefighter. So they brought him out to Indianapolis. He got to hang out with some firefighters, pulled up to the game. Got some tickets. Just happened to coincide with the return of Papa Halliburton. And with Papa Halliburton back in the building, the younger Halliburton made history to propel

the Pacers to a commanding lead in this series. Let's take a look at the highlights if we can please, Palo. Both teams got to work in the first quarter combining for 78 points in the first 12 minutes of the game. Halle set the tone for the Pacers with 15 points, six boards, and five dimes. With Siakam and Aaron Neesmith combining for 19 points. Indiana shot 68% from the field, 75% from three and 100% from the line in the first frame. While Jayla Brunson got the Knicks going with 13 points with New York shooting

57% from the field, 50% from three and also 100% from the line in the first quarter, New York still found themselves down eight in that first period. Halle was on it though. He said, did daddy come back to the game? He said, daddy, I got a treat for you, sir. That's when you realize how small heart is. So Nick's down eight after first quarter battle back in the second quarter, taking a one point lead with the Lunar under two minutes to play. Makes a part, things like this, but Pacers got to it.

Pacers closed the first half on a 6-0 run to take a five-point lead into the break. J. LeBrunson trying to do his best to keep his team in this thing. Indiana scored seven straight to start the second half to extend their lead to double digits. Like I mentioned, with his daddy back at the game and still waving his towel in a sweep, Halle had a historic night coming through

with his second career triple double. Halle stuffed the stat sheet with 32 points, 12 rebounds, 15 assists with no turnovers and four steals. No other player has dropped that stat line in NBA playoff history. Halle joins Oscar Robertson and Jokic as the only players in league history with a 30-point 15 assist 10 rebound game in the playoffs The big Oh did it twice Pascal Siakam added 30 points with 11 of those coming in the fourth quarter

It was the second 30-point game in the series and after scoring a total of 11 points in the first three games of this series Ben Matherin was big off the bench dropping 20 points on five of eight shooting. Matherin knocked down 10 of his 11 free throw attempts. He only played 12 minutes in the game and Aaron Neesmith had 16 points on five of nine shooting. Jalen Brunson scored a team-high 31 points for the Knicks but had just two points in the fourth quarter. Big Bodega added 24 and 12 rebounds. OJ Ananobe had 22. Mikhail Bridges had 17 and Josh Hart added 12 points and 11 boards off the bench. So as I mentioned the Knicks had three 20-point comebacks this postseason trailed by as much as 15 in the fourth quarter of this game. New York went on a run late in the fourth quarter to close the gap but it would

not be enough. Pacers scored 20 points off the Knicks 17 turnovers outscored the Knicks 22 to 9 in fast break points. This is the first time that the home team has won a game in this series. Pacer's got it done. This will be obviously a big Tyrese Halliburton fan. Now Indiana, one game away from eliminating the Knicks for the second straight season and reaching their first NBA finals in 25 years. So after the game, Halle had this reaction to his historic playoff stat line. We making up stats at some point to make me look better.

But I think I'm just trying to play the right way, man. I just want to impact winning. Told you guys that for the last two years, I think after my third year getting the big contract and now having to step into a new role, I think for me it was about how can I impact winning. And I'm just trying to do that to the best of my ability. We're building something special here. We're having a lot of fun with what we're doing.

And I feel like I'm at the forefront of that along with a lot of these guys. So I'm just trying to play the right way and play to the best of my ability. That's what it's about. And I feel like I did a good job today. But man, I feel like there's so many different opportunities for me to get better and for us as a group to get better and play better. So we'll take what we can from this game and just be ready to go for game five. So anonymous NBA players voted Tyrese Halberd

as the most overrated player in the NBA. Since then, he's been on a tear. Like I said, he has the Pacers one game away for making their first NBA Finals in the last 25 years. Mr. B, can anyone stop the Pacers when Halle's playing like this? No, when he's playing like that

and when they're playing that team basketball at that pace, they're hard to stop, man. The role players have been stepping up a lot. The bench T.J., he's been great. Siakam, when they need him to step up. I just like their team effort though.

Like this is a team that they don't really have a number one option. I mean, Haile is the number one option when he wants to be but this team reminds me of the Detroit Pistons when they won. That team didn't really have any huge, huge superstars. They just had a team and everybody was able to come out there and contribute.

So when they're playing like that, man, and they're guarding 94 feet and they're moving that ball and they're playing fast paces, you know, it's tough. It's tough. It's good luck. Good luck. Swaggy, can anyone stop the Pacers when Halleys playing at this level? Historic stat line. No, he out there like the point guard tell him Duncan to me, man. Just a winner, winner.

Kind of, them guys you hate on the floor, but they just get it done. They find a way to get it done. You can say what you want about them. Make fun of him, the no mustache, and say, I can. Guys get it done. They got it done.

No mustache, Aaron Eastman with the tissue wrap. You don't need a guy that could just dribble, dribble, dribble. Create like that when you got a solid team and play hard. Yeah, when you look at what Halle's doing, especially in particular this game last night, can anyone stop the patience when he's playing at this level? If he's playing at this level and they're playing good too, then they will be hard to beat. But because he plays what they call the right way, I don't think he understands what that really means yet.

Sometimes playing the right way is playing to your ability. And we see what your ability. Right? And we see what your ability is. So if you're not playing to your ability, then you're not playing the right way. So those days when you have two shots, four shots, right, like Ant-Man, right? When he said, I'm just playing the right way.

I didn't know you'd taken seven shots with 13 shots is the right way to play, right? Not for the team. The team is built around you being the main piece, and they feed off of you. So the way his team is built, it's built for him to do exactly what he's doing, and everybody finds their place and keep moving.

We're going to do that. So some of those days where he's not taking over the game or taking shots, he's not playing the right way Right, and you know, that's that's that's that's the only thing I say Well, if he plays like this all the time, then yeah, they would be harder. It'll be hard to beat You think he needs to be aggressive all the time. I don't think so But that's what makes, that's what, think about it, every time he plays aggressive like this,

everybody else eats a lot. Because he's so in attack mode, offensively, everybody has to try to stop him. That's when everybody gets easier shots. When he's just sitting there, I'm in pass mode, I'm in pass mode, this guy can't create his own shot, that guy can't create his own shot, That guy can't create his own shot. It becomes everyone's basically now they got to create their own shots.

Well, yeah, well, it hurts. Three's driving, getting picked, driving, doing a little layup. When he's fully in attack mode, it forces everybody, it forces the defense to play a full defensive game. Yeah, I think it hurts him a lot when they're in a half- set a lot but like when he's on that pace though when he has that pace and he's able to get into that lane get some easy ones then you can see like okay like he's gonna have a good offense tonight but when they when they stopping him in that high half court he got to pass the ball and try to figure

it out and get it back and he's up there dancing and going it's like. How many assists you had last night? 15. So look and this is what I was told by the general manager. My general manager, when I played, because I had to understand the concept of what he was saying, when I was like, man, I need to be more of a pure point. And he was like, that's not a real idea. Be attacking and then just give up some passes, give up some shots to make passes, right? Let the defense try to stop you that shot becomes easier When he's super aggressive offensively look how many assists he gets

Right because guys are getting open versus if he's just trying to get 15 assists is gonna be harder if he's not trying to score Right, so if you give if you think about people who are just trying to make passes all the time, it don't work like that. Like Lonzo Ball is a very, very, very unselfish basketball player. He's not going to be getting 15, 20 assists. But I feel like he know how to like step back. He know how to take a seat back when players, other guys, has got it going.

He's still not looking to force his way to get his self going too. So. He's got the ball in his hand. He takes what the game gives him. Yeah, he takes what the game gives him. I feel like. I mean, he's been working. I mean, we're up 3-1.

So it's like, I mean, I understand what you're saying. But the question is, is it when he plays like this already unstoppable. Yeah. Oh, yeah, they are. Yeah But you think yeah, but even when they have a balance of so again But why is he asked 32 a guy has 15 assists? You got you know I mean think about what I'm saying like it's not like siakam has 30 points and he has 15 assists two points two points and all that, that doesn't coexist sometimes. Because he's so in attack mode, oh shit, he's trying to score.

Here you go, Siakam. Now Siakam gets to play, now you gotta guard all five of us exactly the same. But don't they win big when they have seven guys in different figures and scores? Well that was regular season, seven guys, they got five guys. It starts with him being at it.

If I know you're not gonna score, think about it, if I know you don't shoot the ball or you're not gonna score, I'm just gonna be help side, playing defense. But I know if you're aggressive trying to score the bucket, you drive, he gotta help, he gotta help, now you're kicking it, now it's like, I'ma fake it, I'ma stay home, now you're driving,

now we gotta double you, now you're making that pass, like don't double, now you're taking me off the dribble Now you have to play a full complete game. Yeah a Lot of the time then there's be some games where you know, see I can got it going he got it going then but those are the games you have to like evaluate in real time you can't pre I'll see I can miss your night and sometimes his team needs him to be a full player.

Like, you know, like, you know, your team was a hit shot. Yeah, it was the perfect game. You talk about playing the right way, but does that really mean anything? Because like you said, from game to game, playing the right way can shift and change or whatever you need to do to get a win. Sometimes you got to drop 30, sometimes you got to knock.

Sometimes you got to do to get a win. Sometimes you gotta drop 30, sometimes you gotta knock. Sometimes you gotta force it. Yeah. So I said, playing the right way is going into the game with your full arsenal, right? If you gotta drop something off because someone else got something going, cool. But don't go into the game saying, hey yo, y'all play the right way.

Meaning, okay, so we supposed to just pass the ball around. Now everybody's not aggressive anymore. Now you're playing the wrong way. Playing the right way could be just make sure we move the ball, like making sure we get into our sets, making sure like certain, I mean, because that's what's been the flow for them. Like the flow has been, yo, listen, man,

listen, we're way more successful when we have seven guys in double-fingered. So that's playing the right way at least. And then if it ain't working, all right, then you're going to your thing. But that's the Listen, we're way more successful when we have seven guys in double-parallel. So that's playing the right way, at least. And then if it ain't working, all right, then you're going to your thing. But that's insane. We're saying, what does playing the right way mean? Trusting your team.

If you're the fastest guy on the court, no one can stop you. Right? You can get to the basket any time you want. And I say, play the right way. What are you going to do? Do you? Passing the ball? No.

Not using your speed? Give it to everybody? Because everybody needs to touch the ball See that see then you're not playing the right way I feel like they played the right way as a unit know right like it's gonna be time I feel like you could do that, but that push ahead is dead there deadly like Like Lonzo ball for the most part to me Plays the wrong way he plays the wrong way. He plays the wrong way. He's not confident.

Right? No, he plays the wrong way and your ability to go downhill and get shit going, that is the right way for you. You throw the ball up, but when you can't throw it up and you get into the lane, you got to get into the lane. Put two feet, remember back in the day, like touch, touch two feet in the paint, they gotta stop you. Boom, assist, it becomes, it becomes an easier thing. And so the fact that he had passed it up

and that he just plays, pass around, that's not playing the right way for your talent. You're like, you're like the, the holly version, right? You're fast, you can pass, you throw it up, you got great vision. You need to be playing a up and down from baseline to baseline with your dribble when you do have it not not not baseline a three-point line like when half think about when Halle gets in he's all over he's in there throwing it like he's hello or I'm talking about Lonzo. So we asked the chat, does Tyrese Halliburton

play the right way? This might be the most overwhelming lopsided poll, I think, in the history of Gills Arena. 94% of the chat say yes, Tyrese Halliburton plays the right way. But OK, you know what? No, no, I have a problem. Somebody at the door, Gil.

Somebody at the door. Hold on, let's see. I get what you're saying. Oh, okay. Yeah. Let him in. Who the fuck does our, who does the questions for the chat?

Keep up with the conversation that we talked, what that poll was didn't even have nothing to do with our conversation. Well, either way, Gil, we got a special guest making his first appearance in the arena. He's a legend in the comedy game, former host of the third class comedy show on BET. Now you can catch him doing stand up, acting and hosting his nasty syndicated

radio show, The Ricky Smiley Morning Show. Also got a new comedy special called Foolish dropping on Hulu May 30th. Ricky Smiley, man. Oh, man. How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing?

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How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? How you doing? Eric Blessoe, my nephew, I just wanted to say. Okay. I was trying to get him on the show. That's Birmingham. That's my people. Shout out to Birmingham.

Shout out Blessoe. I play with Blessoe. Yes sir. UAB. That's my boy. You have to know that he was a kid. In the high school with his mom. Okay.

Yeah. Shout out Eric Blessoe. Are you a big basketball fan? Big basketball fan. Who is your squad? College of NBA. NBA. NBA, you know, working in Dallas all those years,

so you know you become a Mavs fan. You have to rock with them. You have to rock with the city. If you're on the radio in Dallas, 97.9 to beat, you're on there reading Mavs promos, you become a Mavs fan because, and where I'm from, we don't have NBA NFL, it's Alabama and Auburn. Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it, but yeah, you, yeah, yeah. That's it. Yeah, you have to run with the Mavs. I have always liked the Lakers. And growing up watching Magic Johnson and Kareem, you know, I'm 56, so y'all went. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Black dough crack, you still look good.

Yeah, yeah, right. So we were talking about, you've been watching these playoffs, we were talking a little bit about Tyrese Halliburton, his historic game last night to help the Pacers take a 3-1 lead in their series over the Knicks. Yeah, they got the Knicks in the corner. And my whole thing, what I've been arguing with my guy, Rock T, that does sports on my morning show is you cannot win the NBA Finals if you don't have a bench.

And them young dudes out there running and you got to be able to keep up That's just my take on it You got to have a bench because the players have to get some rest Yeah, and it just seemed like they got New York back down in the corner man. It's gonna be hard I think it's gonna be the the Pacers and our okay see Although what y'all think? Yeah Y'all already predicted that well Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Y'all already predicted that? Well, no, we didn't know. The way things are going. I don't think the NBA did either. Adam Silver. Everybody getting mad because we talk about what the viewership is going to be like for that finals. We are going to watch. They don't we get paid to watch basketball, so we will do that. Yeah. I just don't know. We'll see. Yeah, I'll be watching for sure.

I love it. So we're talking a little bit about how Lee Gill. I got a watching for sure. I love it. Okay. So we're talking a little bit about Hailey. Gil, I got a question for you. We touched on this recently. I wanted to dive in a little more with the crew. When you look at Hailey's impact and what he does with his team, his ability to be both a scorer, facilitator, in addition to impacting winning in other ways, how important is it for a star player to be able to do more than just score in the league right now?

For a star player, the main player, you got to have the ability to do everything. You know what I mean? You have to be able to cover up majority of the big piece of chicken. You got to have the big piece of chicken, right? So you know, then everything else is supposed to be built around you. Right. When you think about winning and winning consistently in this league, you have the star player and then everybody around him meshes perfect with him. And, you know, that's what they have, you know, there.

I think they realize that Halle's a star and we're going to try to build to his best ability. And you know, now it's all up to management. He's gonna do his part. You know, I mean, just when you look at history, you gotta be smart to understand what a player is and what he needs to win. Because if you can't, and you're not smart enough to know what he needs,

then that player is just a selfish player who can't win. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah, you're just a hot dog player. Because truth be told, the superstar star player, the real one, not the ones, the number twos, the real one is a selfish person.

He is a selfish individual. He is about me and who you build around him has to convince him it's about us. Right. You agree with that? Absolutely. Okay. Yeah, I just never understood how management worked

because that whole, I'm not trying to switch the subject But that whole trade with Luca going to the Lakers as a Mavs fan it threw everybody out He was on the radio. He was on the radio depressed You would have thought somebody had like what the hell is going on? Like what like, you know, I don't I what those decisions are based around or whatever, because I mean, you go to the damn mass game to see, you know, to see him play. So it really threw me off. So I don't know what goes into the decision-making, but that was a lot of good information. Yeah. Well, I mean,, I mean, this is a little.

Salami? Siakam? Yeah. Siakam. Salaka Lake? For real, that's been like a star. Like, you really don't get there without him either though. You know what?

He's been carrying him this round. He's, he's. That's what I'm saying. I'm feeling a little bit better about him. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I'm feeling a little bit better about him. You know what I mean? I wasn't on him before. It seems like they play a very great, not necessarily

Carmelo and John Stockton style of play, where they're both number one and number two. But we knew Carmelo was the guy. And then John Stockton was the guy behind the guy right, um Here it just seems like they they do a very great job at balancing and you really can't see who's who And when you do need see I come to show up. He's there Yeah, and I just think some for me, you know when I watch basketball

I need some I need you to pick your head up. So I just think some for me, you know when I watch basketballs I need some I need you to pick your head up. So I just say okay you do you okay cool Then everybody else falls in line, but since he hasn't stood up there and he just pokes it up go down poke it up Go down Yeah But you know like when he does need to show up, he shows up. I mean, you talk about Siakam in his Eastern Conference

Finals, 26 points per game. library bounce three assists, 54-50, 71 shooting splits. And talked about how he doesn't really have any plays ran for him, he just operates in the flow of the offense. But he's a basketball player. I mean, he was, they was interviewing him after the game yesterday, and he was saying, I think Charles asked him about, you know,

they don't run plays for them. He was just saying, you know, I just do what the team does, or what the team needs. So, and I always felt like that's been his approach, even when he was with Toronto and they won. You know, that was a team that went, yeah, you had Kawhi Leonard, but that team, you know what I'm saying, that, you know,

with Kyle Lurie and all them, it was just a difference. So him coming over here, playing with these guys, it was easy for him. Like, he doesn't care about being the number one option, the number one option because he just does what the team needs. I just wanted to ask, just sitting around some pros, has the game changed? Does the game feel faster? What's the difference between when y'all play, as what's going on now. I'm not, I got cut from the basketball team.

I can dribble with my left hand. Well, that's some players in the NBA right now who have those same accusations against them, but. It seems faster, for the most part. What's making it faster is just... More temps, is it? Everybody get to shoot now. It's okay, so that's what makes it faster.

So like if you look at New York, right? New York plays more of the old school style, right? Where one player, he's gonna manipulate the game, he's gonna get his ISOs, right? That looks slow compared to a team like Pacers where everybody's firing, this person shoots, even though it might not be the right people shooting, everyone's free-flowing. So it's more of a free-flowing style a free flowing style because when I was coming up, like the most talented sometimes wasn't necessarily the smartest of remembering plays

and knowing situational stuff. That's how you got to do it. What it got to do with you? No, why you say remembering plays and all that type of shit? Like, Swaggy, did you remember the plays? I knew what you were trying to refer to. No, I wasn't even referring to you, motherfucker. No, you always say that. You've been saying put it on. I was just saying, I was just saying. No, I'm just saying, so most of our really talented, right, that like they can change the game. We can say Andre Blotch, motherfucker, right?

That we couldn't put him in because they couldn't remember the plays. Like back then we had a lot of plays, right? And then when you talking about training camp, if they couldn't remember play, this is the crazy part. The first day, if they couldn't pick up plays the first day, they was basically cut out of the rotation. Yeah.

Well, really. Yeah, my son told me that, my son played with Alabama State University, and he told me that they had a player over there that was really, really good, but he just had a hard time remembering the plays or whatever. That's the first time I heard something like,

because I'm thinking basketball compared to football, where there's more players and it's more, it seemed to be more complicated or whatever, but damn, you would think basketball would be more. So now just imagine a wide receiver who can't think. You just like, all right, look. Right. If you're on the right side, you go like that. Right, just post. Yeah, you gotta go look. If you're on the right side, you go like that.

Right? Just post. Yeah, you got to go like. If you're on the left, post to the middle. That's it. You're like, all right. Now you got these high flying, jumping, catching, getting, like, you know what I mean?

So that's what the NBA has came to. It came to basically like, all right, look. We don't got our offense. We're going to put it in his hands. Everybody spread out. If you got a mismatch, take advantage of it, we're gonna pass and kick. Right? And that became the style versus like, all right, we're gonna go to the side, we're gonna

draw this play up, you're gonna double pick, and you got this guy like, I just got here, I don't know what's, you know what I mean? That became the problem. So now you have a lot more skilled players, not necessarily basketball smart. But does, I mean, having those skilled players, not necessarily basketball smart. But does, I mean, having those skilled players having more shooting, I mean, you talk about back in the day, you had one and a half to two scores.

Yeah, listen, I thought we would have been more successful offensively if our plays was a little bit dumbed down. Right, if our plays, the Princeton offense, wasn't so complicated, right? Especially with the team we had, we had a lot of athletes and people that could put the ball in the basket. Right? We had Nick, you got Andre Blotch. Yeah, we had Andre Blotch. We had a bunch of kids like, yo, you can be the two, he can be the four. One, two, Karan, Antoine. Right? Blotchotch, like we got yo, we five out, everybody can score, everybody

can shoot. You can't guard us in 2007. But if we got a Princeton offense where you got to think so much and remember, right, it's like remembering a movie script and they only gave you two days to remember it right and you like you Yeah, I'm an improper. I don't need a script. Oh, you don't need a script, huh? They used to be like To be right here cuz you weren't looking at the board. You're like, no, no, I'm right here. No, no, no. I'm right here. I'm supposed to be right here because you weren't looking at the board You're like no, no, I'm right here. No, no, no go over there I'm gonna say that happens

Even beyond your position is so, you know what everybody else is doing and they'd I can run here and I do here It's like Soon as the time Yeah, you'll see some people in something And that's as soon as the timeout. I ain't here. Where do I go? Where do I go? And then you'll see some people in town, yo, get over here. This way. Oh, yeah. That happened in that, oh, that's when you get subbed out.

Oh, damn, you found a friend. Coach was like, get his ass out of here. I just said it. I just said the goddamn phrase. You should have flipped the board. Goddamn. And even just being able, like you said, being able to flip. Yeah.

Just being able to flip. Or at least 85% of players in the NBA, if you write something on the board and you flip it, they don't know what's going on. It's the same thing. We just want it from the other side. They won't know how to do it. Right. Just flip it. Just listen.

If we draw a play up and then just flip the play, right, they're confused. Yeah. Yo. Wait, so where I gotta, which way do I cut that? I'm right here, right? You know when you don't know. You say, coach, so I'm right here, right?

Yes, you're right here. Yeah, you're right. That gets them more mad. I didn't know that. Yeah, so basically it's more skilled because they dumped it down for more talent to be able to be on the floor. Right.

Why? I was about to say, OKC. Let's say like, a player like a... OKC? That's why they wouldn't... Wiggins all them guards. Yeah, they wouldn't have been on the court. Man. That's why you can have, you know, like a...

That's why somebody like a LeBron can last. Right. Because... If it was a whole bunch of people that were smart, they'd take advantage of him. Because he can't move, we gonna tackle, we gonna back from him, he can't move, left, right. But because everybody's young, they not, he becomes the smartest thing on the court,

even though he's the smartest player on the court anyway, but you're not gonna take advantage of him because he's smarter than you. Right, so he's like, all right, okay, they're gonna switch. Hey, just deny that. Make him bring it back this way. He is less movement now because he's, first he's like, all right, LeBron doesn't wanna move.

We're gonna do the pick and roll here, make him guard this, and like. Right. Would you say Tyrese Halliburton fits in that world? Not super athletic. I think Unring coming out of high school and went to Iowa State wasn't this big name coming into league, but so smart on the court, knows how to take advantage of the offensive side. He's learning.

He's learning. He's not at the master. He's not a master at the game yet when you're talking about like that Jason Kidd, the John Stockdose elite, elite. Nah, he's not. He's not. You don't think he's gonna take the control of the game? He can't be though.

Like later. No, no, no. How about this playoff? He's on his way. No, no, no. He's on his way. He's in the lane, but he's not. Like, you know, like Chris Paul.

Like, he's not there yet. Where he know like Chris Paul like he's not there yet Where he like he can see something before it's coming. Yeah, all right this guy got two files. He's driving out I'm a stop boom get a third get him out of the game. Yeah, he's not he's not there once He starts once he starts really understanding the nuances like all right He over plays the bat way yo forget that we're going back door when I spin back door He over helps once you start seeing those moves forget that. We're going back door. When I spin back door, he over helps. Once you start seeing nose moves, where I can look at you and be like, all right, spin a turn.

Yeah, that's kind of like stand up comedy, man, with an audience, man. A lot of people don't know if you got a commotion over here to go to the other side of the stage and perform. You know, to get the spotlight from over there because you get everybody in the audience looking at this shit going on over here while you up here trying to sell a joke or set up a joke so you move all the way over there to that side of the stage and get, you know, to keep the audience engaged.

So it's techniques and everything, but I never heard of a lot of this. My son talk about it a lot, but this is some good information for me. Not that I'm gonna go coat that. No, it's just like being, it's not just like being a comic, right? Right.

You got, right, you got the mastery of it where joke telling, punch line, cadence, stage presence, right? That's our Kobe's, that's the elite. Then you got just raw natural talent where they can just go on the stage and just be funny. Yeah. Right, then you have, right, you have someone who has great jokes, they just don't know how to tell them.

Don't know how to deliver them. They don't know how to deliver them, right? So they end up becoming a writer. Writer, yeah. Yeah. Same thing. Same thing in music. You buy those jokes, you'll say,

hey man, let me buy that one from you right there. And that's the same with the NBA. Look at it just like that. Yeah. Wow. I'm a writer. No, no. Oh, yeah.

They just don't have it. They don't have the stage presence, right? They dry. They don't know how to read the crowd. They get rattled easy. You got comedians that's real deep like Dave Chappelle. And then you got your silly comedians that come off the top of your head like Mike L or whatever.

And then you got your silly comedians that can off the top of your head like Mike L. Or whatever, and then you got your DC Young Fly. Everybody have their own little category and style. Then you got your old school like Steve, LaVell, myself, Earthquake or whatever that have our own little way of doing stuff, but man, it's a lot of techniques. When did you feel like you mastered stand up comedy? Oh man, probably about 2000, because I did a little Darryl in 97. So that blew my whole career up, man.

That was crazy. I was just doing it on stage, having a good time with it. It blew up. Did it one night on BET. We went from like $250 doing a show to like five grand and a plane ticket. Like we was driving, you know what I'm saying, driving up in the mountains of West Virginia in a 79 Cutler. Me and TK Kirkland, no one comes all the way.

We were struggling, but that right there took it to another level. And then when you start doing all of those shows, you start learning all kinds of techniques because the stage is the greatest teacher. You learn so much. Sometimes fights break out or whatever, you know, and you learn from comedians, you know what I'm saying? And just how to handle situations because anything can jump off while you're on stage. So you just have to learn and have your act or whatever, but you get a lot of time.

You get drunk, you get crackheads, you get all kinds of stuff. Yeah, crackheads do love comedy. You know heads you get all kinds of crack heads do love comedy I said crack heads do love comedy. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, they come out. So yeah Did radio help? Radio help a lot because that's every morning. Mm-hmm every morning you're getting up you exercising that comedy muscle Yeah, you know you get your news you get your sports you get pop culture

Get all this stuff going on. You throwing jokes in between. Y'all get the cracking jokes and roasting or whatever. So you doing comedy every morning for three hours, three and a half hours, Monday through Friday, week after week, and then you go and perform on the weekend. Or like I have two comedians on my radio show, you know, Special K and Reader Brent. Somebody say something really funny.

I'm like, hey, you wanna use that? Or can I have that? But we have to agree that, okay, yeah, you go ahead, you can have that one. You just can't take the jokes. Somebody say something really funny, like, hey, you want to use that or can I have that? We have to agree that, okay, yeah, you go ahead, you can have that one. You just can't take the joke. Somebody say something funny. You just can't take it. You have to ask permission because we all having a conversation and something funny come and say, hey, you want to do it?

Say, yeah, no, you good. You go ahead. You take that joke. You take the joke and run with it. That's how you develop. You do that? I'm going to use that one. Yeah, I'm going to use that one.

I'm going to use that one. Yeah, you got to claim it. Hey, I'm going to use that one. Yeah, you got to claim it. Yeah, I bought, I bought a, speaking of Mir, I bought a, I bought a, I bought a, I bought a, I bought a, I bought a, I bought a, I bought a I'm gonna use that one. Yeah, I'm gonna use that one. I'm gonna use that one. Yeah, you gotta claim it. I'm like, hey, I'm gonna use that one. Yeah, you gotta claim it. Yeah, I bought, speaking of memory, I bought a joke from a comedian, man. I gave him like five grand for the joke. And it was a Walmart joke, but it was all laid out.

My dumb ass couldn't remember it. I couldn't remember it. I tried, man, I read that shit, man. I was studying or whatever. I said, man, I read that shit when I was studying or whatever. I said, man, just play it. Just charge it to the game. I said, damn. You were trying to hit him back leg, man. No, man.

It was, you know, dude already got the money. He probably went and spent it on his wife and kids, man. We talk about it. I bought it from Special K. I gave him $5 thousand dollars for a Walmart joke that was real. I said man Let me buy that friend me give me five grand gave her five grand my dumbass can remember And didn't want to go back to charge you again Like no, you don't remember and then he started back and then he started back using it And then he started back using it. I'm like, damn.

I didn't know. OK. It was in perpetuity. I get it. OK. I was going to do it. Well, let's get back to Hallie Burton real quick. So on Get Up This Morning, Jay Williams

has some high praise for Hallie. Guys, if you're not waking up today, Wednesday, May 28, saying that Tyrese Halliburton is a superstar, don't talk to me about basketball today. Possession by possession, he's the best manipulator in the game. He manipulated every single play offensively last night by finding the right matchups, by attacking in transition, by giving hockey assist.

He was direct and aggressive from the beginning of the game and he affected and accounted for over 80 of the team's 130 points. Between points and assist, over 80 points of the teams 130 that is a superstar that we saw on the grand stage. Look good you agree with Jay Williams saying Tyrese Halliburton is a superstar. I guess we're not gonna be talking basketball. I guess not. You don't think he's a superstar?

No. Y'all don't think he's a superstar? No. That's crazy. He's a superstar? No. Y'all don't think he's a superstar? No. That's crazy. He's the best point guard I've had. What happened is I think that because of Max contracts and Super Max contracts, I think people have gotten the best player on a team

and a star on the team mixed in with what a superstar is. It's two different things. A star player, you are a basketball player. I know you from basketball. A superstar is, they're known outside of the game. Oh, you're talking about that part. Right?

You know what I mean? You walk in the room, and I'm not a casual. I don't watch basketball. I know who you are. If I don't watch comedy, I know who you are. That's a superstar. If I told Jay Will, who was the superstar on the Duke team we played?

It's hard to find those though. It wasn't Shane Baddie, it wasn't Carlos, but it was you. You were ranked number one point guard in the country. Superstars are built along, they built in high school. Some, like a Steph Curry, caught it in college and then in the NBA winning, right? caught it in college and then in the NBA winning, right? John Moran, college, NBA. Giannis, NBA.

It's being personable. It's your smile, it's your swag, it's your aura. It's what you bring, right? It has nothing to do with the talent here, like Yolkich. Right, it has nothing to do with that itself. like Yolkage right it has nothing to do with that itself it's it's just a style that you played that the kids will love he has the talent to be there he's not there he's not there yet okay would you consider Tim Duncan the superstar you don't think Tim Duncan super that's what I'm saying like they like the same

to me like yeah I know yeah but Tim I didn't we don't think Tim Duncan's super star. That's what I'm saying. They're like the same to me. Yeah, I know. Yeah, but Tim, we don't know nothing about Tim Duncan. But if he walks into the room, everybody knows him. If you see Tim Duncan out right now, people will know that's him. They would know him. But is he a five-time, is he a five-time, you About what I'm saying is he a five time champion Superstar when he walks into a building You see the difference you see what I'm saying like for having five Championships as a lead guy if he if he walks into a building with some about the masses or just

If he if he walks into a building with some about the masses or just Like when you're talking about when we're talking about auras we're talking about just put them in all five rings Magic Johnson, does he have that aura? Oh, yeah, it's hard to join or you think you're done. It's on that same level as magic But that's what I'm saying. So you didn't know the difference? That's just one of the faces of the game. Yeah, that's different. That's personality. See now, I don't feel like Yannis is like that really. No, Yannis. Disney, like he smiles, like people like him. It's only like LeBron like that. LeBron is the Kobe Jordan. That's what I'm saying. That's the top.

That's the megastars. That's the magic that that's that's the stars. That's the mega star. Yeah Mega this year's mega Stars and their stars. I mean you said magic that's magic is a mega mega So the mega is you have the personality that's now the look the aura and the winning So you got all of it and I think sometimes we confuse and the winning. So you got all of it. And I think sometimes we confuse Magic, Magic Johnson and Bird are two different.

But you say Larry Bird is a megastar. No. He's a superstar. I don't know nothing about him. But he's still with no Larry Bird. Everybody in the world would know Larry Bird. But you know more Larry Bird because of what? The stuff.

Magic and Bird, Magic and Bird, Magic and Bird. But if Magic walk in, everybody gonna be like, oh shit. If Bird and Magic walk Bird. But if Magic walk in, everybody gonna be like, oh shit. If Bird and Magic walk into a high school arena right now, they know Magic. You don't think they'll know Magic? In the Indiana, they gonna know Bird. Magic, right, because the superstar still,

I can't, I can't even see what you're saying. The superstar still, the superstar still is relevant today. I mean, the megastar is still relevant today I think he extent like he Tim Duncan walked in everything here swim comes you crazy everybody know Timmy People talk about how he don't his demeanor Man if you read his dress may if you read his address may have if you read his resume out Oh, I'm the what I address like the old Navy The big G's in the

He's a waterbasket. We're basketball players. So right we're looking at a resume Right. Okay. Let's do like this Tim Duncan mm-hmm Kevin Garnett, right? Champion. Tracy McGrady, me, Chauncey Billups, right? We're five Adidas guys. Where do you think we ranked in popularity, shoes, stales, amongst?

That's pretty funny, though, Gil. You can't even. Again, you're trying to. ranked in popularity shoes stales among funny though Again you're trying to people could be more famous you're saying exactly what you're saying exactly What I'm saying, but you're arguing against it. No, if you put us both a four time at the time a four time Champion and you put me in, we walked into China together. Who you think they knew? Who you think they wanted to be around? There's like, you have to relate,

people have to be able to relate to you, huh? You gotta throw yourself in here. You have to throw yourself in here. You was a part of that five. I was just trying to prove, I'm proving the point. So out of that five, you say, you said John C. Billups, you say KG, Tim Duncan,

yourself and T-Mac? Yeah, we were five Adidas guys. I'm going T-Mac first. Uh-huh. It's time. I think T-Mac first, sure. Just period. If you play with y'all.

Exactly. I wanna go, I wanna go you, because you're a guard because China they love guards. So I'm gonna go you, KG, Tim Duncan Chauncey. That's exactly how I went. I'm gonna say toss up out of you and KG. No, he said it perfect. Because guards. And then I jumped T-Mac in my second shoe. No, I believe because, because China, they love guards. If you could...

Jersey sales, all of it. Yeah. Like I wasn't even on an Olympic team in 08, and I was the sixth highest Jersey seller. Wow. And I wasn't even on the team. It's you. Right.

It's who you are. I can't say, just random person, you're gonna be my are. I can't say just random person, you're going to be my superstar. You can't give it to Jokic. I don't give a fuck how many rings he wins. It's him. It's his personality. You love Shaquille O'Neal why?

His personality. It starts with that. You have to... Joker and Shaq both walk in somewhere right now. I feel like Shaq's gonna get mobbed. Yeah, don't go to move pretty freely But yeah, but Shaq's gonna have a crowd of people on different Superstar in the face of the league is two different people It's what kind of the same thing your superstar and your megastar is the ones you want as the face. Right. Right?

If you think winning makes you a superstar, I can take Bronnie James and Hallenburton and put them anywhere in the world. Not right now. Who is known? Who is the kids gonna follow? Not right now, no. I don't know.

I think they're gonna Hallenburton. So to your point, go, who you think the kids? Bronnie, Bronnie. Bronnie, come on. In the beginning? No, period. I don't know. I think No, why just cuz New York market is so big now what he's doing to New York if you put him out there right now I feel like I'm a brother. Don't play for all the shit going on with his dad. That's helping him Underrated all this How much going on with his dad, that's helping him. All this stuff that underrated, all this stuff is helping him. Not him, but it's still helping him. How much does the celebrity have to do with superstars

if they work hand in hand with each other? My follow up to that, Tyrese Halliburton wins the championship this year. Does that help push him and elevate him towards that superstar status? Like does continued winning and success make you more famous? It's just, it's a style.

I can't, what I'm saying is, you can't give it, it's a style. I can't, what I'm saying is, you can't give it, it's you. Do the kids like you or not? Do they fuck with your style or not? Yeah, do that depends on how they market themselves. Yeah. It's all about how you market yourself. It's all about how you put yourself out there. Right.

Like you gotta put, like you gotta, I don't even, like even if he wins it, I mean, are you just gonna go buy a signature shoe if they have a signature shoe for him next year, right? Like as he I mean, I don't know if He's in Indiana he's in the Midwest you can't I mean how much you gonna get like And if he played off of that and talk Kailin Clark is bigger than him still I feel like yeah He can he can't look like bigger than a lot of people If he played off of that and talk, I feel like yeah Even if he wins it Kayla Clark still is still the biggest

Yes Do it I don't give a fuck when he wins man It has nothing he don't like it but when we listen into talk, and I'm like, he's an attractive guy. If he wins. Girls would think he's, you know what I mean? Like, he seems funny. Right. Right? He has a fast-paced style.

That's the president. He's gonna have to be like Curry. Like, win and go one of those years where all the celebrities is like, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit, oh shit. That's how he becomes it because he wasn't that growing up. He wasn't right growing up. That's how it works.

It has to be a style play in the game itself. But if you think about superstars, they were superstars in high school. Kobe was a superstar in high school. If you win and go on a tour, just talking trash and going at everybody, I feel like you could change. That's not his personality. But that's it. But see you're saying it.

But that's what I'm saying. But you're saying it. But then after that. He has to win again. But then after that. But then after that. He has to win again. But again.

His personality is you. It's you, who you are. So I'm saying the same thing. But if he play off of what's going off with his dad and the underrated stuff Again can change it. So that means you're saying he's not it right now Yeah, because you're seeing you're changing his personality hard to nobody's what we saying the superstar superstar like that It's only about to an ambient. Well, I mean Even the MVP now is not a megastar if he went to world. No like him and Halle, him and Halle are trending.

They're like the ones that could break out. They have the personality because they got the style of play like, you know, SGA. Okay. So here it is. Your popularity comes from the youth. Right. X. We, X. We, Jason, I don't give a fuck what you're talking about.

If the kids don't look at it and say, oh, I wanna be like that, then it doesn't matter. If they're not looking at it and say, oh, the dunking, the flash, if they can't do that, then that guy is not gonna be that guy. They're not gonna buy the shoes, they're not gonna buy the jerseys, none of it, right? So it comes with a style that's either flashy,

that the kids wanna mimic. Curry, shooting threes from half court, right? Or trying to dunk or do these moves. Dancing, John Marant, right? If you take John Marant and you take Halle, I don't give a fuck if he wins the championship, you put him in the same room, the kids are gonna follow the dancing guy.

They're gonna follow the dunk, the stop. That has nothing to do with winning. But our stars that built this NBA, they did it both. Magic has it all and the winning. Michael Jordan has the winning. But most people that Kobe has the, you know, Kobe has the winning, Shaq has the winning. Right, so you know, for the most part,

we're blessed with the winning and the aura and the style. So those are the guys who are always going to be at the top. Wow. So do you consider Luca to be a superstar? He has a superstar name And there's a benefit him more obviously benefits. Yeah, you didn't trade it from the math to the helps him being in LA Like if Halle was in new if Halle was in New York it'd help him like his style of play I didn't realize I didn't realize how important location was. Oh, yeah. Yeah, cuz when you say LA versus being in Indiana, that's like,

yeah, for sure. On New York? You know what's so funny, like, it's me having this conversation sometimes with just casual fans. They can't understand, they can't understand what I'm saying. But how about this? Think about all your superstars are having podcasts and they don't have personalities. So their podcasts ain't shit. That's the difference, right? It's the personality that makes you who you are. Winning takes it to another level,

but the personality is what starts it. Right. But that's built from high school. But yeah, there's some guys who can get it in the NBA, and that's Halle's in that lane, SGA's in that lane. But if you can see, the guy who's not winning is still above them, and that's Ant-Man. Yeah. His style of play and his mannerisms, right? You know, LaMelo Ball. His mannerism, his style of play and his mannerisms, right?

You know, La Mello Ball, his mannerism, his style of play. Because people relate to him. Right, because people relate. It's all about if I can relate to him or not. It's real. That's why Jah's so popular. Who? Jah.

Jah, that's who I can relate to. The kids love Jah, which is- Kids love Jah, that's why. Like when, this is a funny thing about the Katelyn Clark and why people don't understand why Katelyn so big. We went to the game. Right? We went to the game.

Mark's Fever game. It was sold out. Sold out. What I saw walking to the game is what the media don't see. Thousands of kids. Wearing what, Gil? Kids. Huh?

Where were they? Kellen Clark jerseys. Were they fever jerseys? Were they Iowa jerseys? Were they... Whatever, wherever she played. It was whatever she played. That's what was more impressive to me.

It wasn't just, it was Caitlyn in the back. But that came from her style of play. But her style of play. But it wasn't what we were, it wasn't adults. It was parents bringing their kids and their friends. Them seats was kids filled. And that's what they don't grasp that part of it. I don't want to go to the game, but my daughters do.

I got to take them three plus they kids. So I got to take they friends. So now I got to, now seven kids, they want to tick tock. That's what she has. Wow. You guys are trying to appeal to adults. Her game pills to the kids Why do you think she gets so much?

Hate adults adults adults that have and this is where people don't She's not proven yet because you think that you get things because of get things because of stats. Right? Shit, it hasn't averaged nothing. You can't tell a six-year-old that. The six-year-old will give it two shits. They don't care. They see her all over TikTok.

They want to go see her. That's what they care about. Right? So the people who have done the leg work, they're like, why is this person getting things that she hasn't worked for hmm it's the same thing they did to LeBron when he first walked in yeah hundred million out of high school I know they was going crazy on him

it was something I studied when I was playing. What makes this 25 points a game better than this 25 points a game? It's the same 25. That should be your story. It's not the same 25. That should be your story. How was he a super mega star and this guy is nobody and they're averaging the same? So I had to ask, hey, what makes him more appealing? And the owner, our owner, after a game,

he pointed and he said, look at him. He said, look at him during the game. Waving, shaking hands, eating popcorn. This is entertainment. Right. Yeah. And he's entertaining everyone. Kissing the baby, shaking the baby. He's doing the fans, people looking, people loving him. See I think- Yes, I said it. It's like radio more than the show. Going out, going to the affiliates and shaking hands kissing babies helping in the community

Yeah, doing stuff like that that make you more appealing for radio as opposed to just sitting in there And jokes but getting out touching people and making the difference getting people out the boat Signed up with NAACP or whatever, you know, so that I get it. Yeah, just doing all of the work Because now social media is the other half of radio. Yeah. Follow, everybody looking at your followers. They don't care how funny you are on stage. How many followers do they have?

The definition of star change, you talk about that, and I see a lot of, I won't call them internet comedians, but a lot of people who have built their following via social media. You look at somebody like Drusky, incredibly talented, and we're seeing some of his range, too, and his ability to ad-lib and do a bunch of different other stuff. But a lot of these people can't do what y'all doing

just in terms of being up on the stage and entertaining the crowd. Yeah. Like, you can do a great, great online social media. They can put the skits, all that stuff. But that's a more relaxed setting in a vacuum, as opposed to somebody like yourself. I gotta go in front of thousands of people

and get this whole crowd entertained, knowing that if these jokes not hitting, they gonna let me know about it. You already understand. Yeah, we had to play catch-up. You know, because Earthquake, myself, Arnest, J, Bruce Bruce, Don DeCicuri, you know, our era was in the 90s. That's when we all blew up BET, but the internet came out or whatever. We had to play catch-up, like, yo, what, what, doing what, you know.

But we had to learn, but the internet internet comedian the comedian that blew up from the internet had to learn how to yeah come on stage to perform like I was the first one to put Desi Banks on stage I call and say you know we haven't shown Birmingham you just come and get on stage I said you you missing money he drove to Birmingham and walked on introduced he came on stage karaoke night and now he's selling out shows all over the country. So yeah, so your point absolutely It was um Friday Freestyling like when you say I so we had a we had a Me all the time

Yeah, so you you had the base of the script but cube was like, okay Here's the script but I put you in the movie because I want Ricky smiling whatever whatever, you know Put put some Ricky smiling on this on this script right here. So, um, you know Adding the jokes Mississippi Pimp bitch better have my script that's a joke you use on stage Yeah, so you just added the little jokes or whatever during the Santa Claus robbery or what have you. But they want you. I assume you want your aura, I mean your vibe to be on top of the script. So you add whatever you want to add as long as everybody lines is not talking over each other. That, yeah, that's how that worked Okay. Yeah, what was the whole thing about what cat was saying about the role about being last to be um

audition for that I'm I mean, I'm glad that I'm just glad to be in the movie But when I went out there and audition for Friday after next I auditioned for a mighty Mike That's what I went out there and read for his own tape. Right. Ice Cube came on and said, yes, Ricky Smiley's telling the truth. This is what he auditioned for,

but we decided that this role would be better for him. The Santa Claus. You know, I didn't know what the Santa, because I didn't get to read the whole script. You just got the sides. I got the sides for Mighty Mike, and I went out there and read for it, and they felt like Cat was better for that role

They said but we got something else for you not you're not a good fit for this because he's better for that part But we got this for you and it worked out perfectly. They was absolutely correct because I don't I Just think that my role as a son because being skinny at the time still skinny skinny, but I was super, like, cracking. And could still run. That was funny. Yeah, so that's how I end up getting that role. They said, no, we have another role called Santa Claus, and you're gonna be robbing it.

And so once they told me about it, and we started shooting, and I kind of really got into the role or whatever. It made sense and it worked out perfectly. I'm glad that I did have that role. It was simple. It wasn't that many lines. It was physical. Most of the time they had a stunt double. But that was really hard. Is there another Friday coming? Another Friday coming? Another Friday coming? It is.

I don't think that they... We had Cube on a radio show about three weeks ago. I think him and DJ Poo is writing the script. Shout out to DJ Poo. And I'm grateful to Cube for the opportunity because you know, he put me and Mike Epps, you know, in the movie. Because I was really in... What's the movie with Ice Cube and Mike was really in I was the movie with ice

keep it Mike Epps in Miami on the beach and all about the Benjamin's all about the business I was in that but that my role was so but they rewrote the last part of the movie and so I ended up on the DVD on the deleted with ice Cuban I fighting on the beach okay it shit. Yeah. And it was a great experience. He said I got something else for you. And then Friday after next game. You know it's so funny, since I grew up on comedy, that was my thing. That was my safe haven, just comedy.

That's what my style is now. All pain, I just try to turn it into comedy So I grew up watching, you know all BET just staying up When I heard cat say it and I was like then I heard you I was like father both right Yeah, because If you auditioned and he auditioned last how would he know who auditioned before him? Right, right, and then he said that role was meant for me. It actually ended up, yes, you're right. It made much more sense.

Because when a role fits the person, so he auditioned for it, and we're like, OK, we like you at this role. And then he came along, and he looked at that role, and he brung his style in that role, and they're like, OK is this you you are Money Mike like how I wrote Money Mike you fit it perfect yeah and since we promised you we're gonna put you somewhere else yeah you can like you that's really what happened and that's it made sense

because that's his style so you know so I'm when I'm looking at the interview I'm like, what's so funny? It's nothing both right. Yeah. Yeah, he went out for the audition It was probably his and then he came in better money might yeah, I don't know if it was mine Because somebody probably read I didn't when I I remember auditioning for that and I felt like when I walked out walked out of the audition I didn't feel like I killed it. I feel like it was just okay or whatever But maybe since I'm really smiling the host of BET They might like but but when they call back and said we have something else for you I knew that that was our cube

looking out and in the way they that that whoever made that decision was the best decision And I'm grateful to this day because that is a historical movie For real I'm in the first damn scene For real I'll never forget, you remember when the Santa Claus ran and he got chopped by the clothesline? Yeah On that ground, that was a stunt double.

But I had to pick up on the ground why it was maggots in the dirt. Well, that's... Oh, shit. Yeah, it was real nasty. Oh, because that was regular backyard. That was a real backyard. And it had maggots in the dirt.

And then the other part that was scary for me was being behind that limousine when that limousine peeled off Because he had that shit in reverse. I was dead So I had to get up and go around and make sure he had it on Friday You can do it as many times as you want you go around and I said, okay, it's in drive I said put your foot on the brake. Okay, I'm gonna go lay it on. They say you ready? I said, hold on Let me check one more time. I probably did that shit about 50 times. But he had to peel off. But I had to lay there, you know, behind that limousine while he really peeled off in order to capture that. So yeah,

that was scary. But other than that, it was hard work. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, that's dope. That's dope. You know, my My dad taught me this, because he was an actor. He just didn't get to that level. And when we used to read through scenes and we used to watch movies, we used to watch movies in this. We would watch the actor and say, is there somebody you can think of that would have did it better?

If we can't, he was meant for that role. Right. Have you ever done that? Where you're watching someone and you say, I could have did that better or this person would have did the better for me. Now the Santa Claus part, I think DC Young Fly probably would have killed it.

I'm funny, I know that I'm funny. No, no, no. But I'm just saying, would that happen? Would that happen? Since, because it's the sixth year. No, no, no. But I'm just saying, would that happen? The sense, because it's the sense. Would that happen, this voice for a younger Chris Tucker? I see a few comedians that probably could have did just a good job in that role, in the Santa Claus,

being skinny, it was just being skinny and running and all that stuff. The one-liners though. Yeah, the one-lin running and all the one liners. Yeah, the one liners and all that stuff. Yeah. Yeah. One of my favorite jokes you got is the Paul Barry with the midget. Oh, yeah. That one. And then the one you saw about masterpiece guitarist.

Yeah, man. Yo, that's it. You were doing it. How you doing that now? That's it. Yeah, this new comedy special is going to be funny. It comes out Friday. Yeah. So Foolish coming out on Who?

Friday, May 30. Yeah, May the 30th, man. I think this your first comedy special in like a decade. In 12 years. OK, over a decade. In 12 years. Yeah, the last special I did was on BET. The thing about it is I got comfortable in radio,

raising kids. I was fine. I'm good, or whatever. and then the younger comedians start coming So, you know kind of sit back let them shine. I was still performing I was still doing the comedy clubs in the theaters But it wasn't no big push for me to go out and do coming especially because they're not easy to do You have to go on the road and develop that material You got to go all over the country and and shoot and get used to all of these

gyms and different arenas that you're shooting in order so when the championship comes you can ball out anywhere. So wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Yeah, you got to work on those jokes. Those jokes got to be seasoned. For real. Those jokes. You just can't write a joke and go on stage and perform it. You got test that joke. Yeah, you know, you have to test that joke out, man. You gotta get your ass in those kinds of clubs and do those three shows. That's the only thing I've never asked. Huh?

Had you tested something out and then go and like. Yeah, that's the purpose of the comedy club. That midnight show with 13 people in the audience, that's when you pull out all your stuff. They'll go, let me try this joke or whatever, you know, like don't don't buy bacon from dollars I bought some bacon from the Dollar Tree and my neck went turn But you have to you have to you have to work that material out and get it tight. And sometimes, man, you can't sit up and write a joke.

Sometimes, testing out on stage, you end up saying something to add to the joke that you never would have thought of if you were just sitting at home at your kitchen table writing a joke. You got to go out there and test that joke. Is that, okay. Is that harder to do today because of camera phones

or because, well you guys probably tell people. It is harder. It is harder. Because if you're trying to work on your jokes and they record like this, it ain't funny. Like that kind of. Yeah, you'd be skeptical about doing the joke and say I want to save it

because if you're getting ready to shoot a special man, you got to make sure ain't nobody in there. Yeah in there, you know, be one person on Facebook live and they got two followers. Yeah. And they filmed the whole show and got the whole area lit up. So Ricky, we know you got a flight to catch right now. So we want to go ahead. Oh, is that what's happening?

It's already, yeah, it's already, it's time to do it. Yeah. They don'll come by. I'm just grateful to meet y'all, man. I follow y'all and I watch y'all, man. Grateful for the opportunity, man. I would love to come back. Y'all welcome to my show anytime. Come back whenever you want to.

Make sure everybody. You should get on stage for sure. Yeah, just host shows. I tell you what, because you are funny. You should just host shows. Just host. The funny is gonna come if you just host. Do your karaoke night and have some fun in between the karaoke singers and the comedians

and just host. And you're going to start to develop some shit that you don't even know that you have. You have it. Because you're funny. That's what everybody say. When everybody that told I was coming. Little Ricky's finally on stage. You're funny.

You're funny. Little Ricky. No, he got his own. You funny, Lil Ricky. No, he got his own style. But y'all are like twins. That's what I'm saying. Ladies and gentlemen, Ricky Smiley, make sure you check out Foolish.

Come here on Hulu, his new comedy special, Friday. Oh, Friday? This Friday? Yeah. This Friday, not the Friday after this? Yes, sir. This Friday. Right here.

We'll put it on the link in Gil's Battle Ball. We'll put it on the link and give a lot of money We'll put it on the link and give a lot of money Appreciate you pulling it, make sure you have a safe flight back and come back through whatever you want Love y'all man, appreciate you I heard the radio show man The prank call and all of it man I was like that should be funny

You wait till you see this one, I get down on this one I don't, even when I did my BETs especially that last one I was like, I didn't, I wasn't happy When I came on beats especially the last one I was like I didn't I wasn't happy when I came on I was happy I did three shows. Okay So you'll see Let me know what you think Yelzerina presented by underdog Cool. Bro, love you. Thank you, appreciate it, appreciate it. Appreciate it. Thank you for coming.

Y'all be good. I appreciate it, man. Hey, can I buy a little Darryl from you? $5,000. Come on. Gotta bring him back. Yeah, I'm about to bring him back. That bass.

You know, hey, have you thought about all the stuff you used to do back then to repurpose it and now for this social media time? Yeah. That whole catalog back then, that's today, you can go viral today. The little Darryl stuff, that goes on TikTok and all social media today. Yeah, David, somebody did a little there with the little babies. Uh-huh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you see it? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, I'm working on some stuff. Okay. Yeah. You're dang.

Alright, y'all. Yes, sir. Alright, so let's get back to these Eastern Conference Finals just a little bit before we get to the Knicks. So like I mentioned earlier, Game 4 marked the return of John Halliburton, Tyrese Halliburton's father, who was not allowed to attend the Pacers' last eight playoff games after getting into it with Giannis following Indiana's series clinching win over the Bucs in the first round. After the Pacers' game four win, Hallie had this to say about having his pops back in

the arena. I know we're saying free pops and pops is free, but he was not in jail. He happened to be in a very beautiful home sitting very pretty watching NBA basketball he's just fun. So you appreciate Howie's perspective on this whole situation? He's a nice guy. He's a superstar. No, but what I'm saying is like that Steph, right? It's coming.

He can get there. He has the personality, he can get there yeah he can get there like he has the personality he can get there I like it but something about the father man I don't like him in the suite the dad gonna be I need a front roll the dad's I need a front row man yeah yeah you know the dad's personality is a superstar right there's a front row Roman I'll kill sweet man suspension. There's already his aura in the suite is just like Here's at the bar watch he needs to move around He has that in it He has that energy man. He's got that motherfucker with the strict shit.

I like that man. He can't go past. It was like, remember the Kendrick? Kendrick Lamar? You remember they went up on the WhatsAname? And they was hooked. You seen them hooked to the platform? Oh in a concert? You know they was hooked right?

Why they hooked? And there's the aw they can't go too far. That would have been funny if they can't go too far. Yeah. That would have been funny if they failed. Like that was me thinking, but that's how he is in that suite. He can't go too far. Nah, man, I need that pit bull loose. I need that pit bull loose. That's the bitch in the bathroom right there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, nah. That's the bitch in the bathroom. They got him on the lease right there. They like, I'm gonna grab some. Don't go down there, stay on the stairs. I might go to the bathroom. No. Like it just reminds me of the LeVar Ball. Bernie Mac say, don't move. liberty actually don't move don't like the bar ball like me like what y'all do to my man man

Don't move. I Need I need that type of person I front row Camera always on them Speaking of that girl, we've criticized the Pacers for their lack of star power in the crowd at their games compared to Madison Square Garden. Knicks fans Spike Lee, Ben Stiller and Timothée Chalamet were all in attendance for game four, but the biggest star of the game was Pat McAfee who got the crowd turned up early in the fourth quarter. Indianapolis, Indiana, we got some big wigs from the big city in the building.

Spike Lee is here. Ben Stiller is here. Timothy Chalamet is here. Let's send these sons of bitches back to New York with their ears ringing! Let's turn this shit on! Pat McAfee, superstar. Superstar? You appreciate Pat getting the crowd going like that.

That's the biggest star they got out there. That's the biggest super star. out there. That's the biggest. Listen, he says, let's send them what? Son of a... We send them back home with their earrings. I was talking to somebody about that, and I said, just regular to bitch word is frowned upon. Sons of bitches seems acceptable.

Right? Right, just that cold. Just together. Just some years. sons of bitches seems acceptable. Right? Just that cold. Just some cold. Just some cold. Just some cold. And The Rock. Yup.

You some bitches. It just seems more acceptable to the public. It's more funny. Yeah, it seems more funny. It's more funny. Like when somebody's like, you some of it? It's just more funny. You sons of bitches.

It just took my cookies. It just, yeah. You played it. I thought it was, you played it. It's just more funny than that. It just took my cookies. It just, yeah. I thought it was, to be honest, I thought it was great. You were watching on playback? You're trolling New York. I just thought it was, right, like I looked at it as like,

okay, now this is entertaining. Mix fans trying to walk in the place. It was just more like, it's entertaining. But theed fans trying to walk in the place. It was entertaining. But the crowd had to catch on too though. The crowd was booing when he said Yeah. They didn't share loud enough though when he said Son of a...

They should have got crazy crazy up in there. Well, approved beneficial, patrons went on Is he from Indiana? They played for the Colts. Oh, he played. He played for the Colts. Oh, he played. He played for the Colts. Pittsburgh, I think. Pittsburgh, went to college in West Virginia, played for the Colts where he was a pro baller, does his show now.

Out of Indiana. Indiana, right? Oh, I forgot that. Shout out to Pat for getting him going. Let's talk about the Knicks side. It's safe to say the Knicks have been outplayed, out-coached in the series. They've been in every game in the series, but have been played by questionable decision-making. You said dumb basketball, foul trouble, repeatedly,

particularly to Kat and Brunson. So looking at this game, what went wrong for the Knicks in game four? Same thing that they, like, I can't even say, listen, we can say they're out-coached because if you don't like say, listen, we can say they're out coached because if you don't like Tibbs, okay, I get the idea that the narrative

of him playing his guys too much and that is a dumb coach. Then we say he don't have a bench, right? Then how can it be a dumb coach if his bench sucks and he don't put him in? Sounds like a smart coach to me. Right? Right?

I mean, it sounds like a smart coach. Like, why am I gonna put the guy in? Does he not have a bench or has he not? This is something that Henry McHale- Game three, they put the bench in, they won. Dillon Rice, Larry Sherman, the only one who put a positive put-in. That's because the patients think they pulled off the gas. That's the only reason why. That's still why. They bench won. They bench won. That's because the patients took their foot off the gas.

That's the only reason why. They still won. They bench won. They bench won. How much did they bench score? Nothing. Not a damn thing. They came back with a bench score.

Cat can't cat with cat had 20. No, no, hell no. That's our students from South Range. Cat had 20. No, that bench came in. What'd the bench do? Once Bryce went out. Zero, let's see what you wanna say,

one and off the bench did? No, no, no. What was your plus minus? What was your plus minus? Plus minus. What was your plus minus? It impacts the game in a positive way. What the bench do? The bench did the bench themselves what did they control? The only plus is on the Nick squad, I know what the I know what the what did they do? About the bench what did the bench do come off the bench? right we talk about the bench, what did the bench do? Who come off the bench, actually? White or something? Yeah, I just think the Knicks are fired. Not enough, good. What's that?

They got, they got... Yeah, yeah, yeah. You start looking, they ain't got no guy in that point. No, but I just know they had a white brother. Yeah. White brother? D-Wright brother. D-Wright brother. Oh, D-Wright brother. They said white brother. Don't even ask.

The two people they put in that they wasn't playing had a total of five points. I mean, it wasn't. But for the most part, they had nine. He always, he played. But first of all, he plays more than he got in foul trouble. So he didn't play the 20 minutes that he usually plays. Yeah, he plays about 24 minutes. Right in heart.

Right play 13. only two new people Right in Shep and that was a 13 minutes. They played and they were They didn't win there was when they they cut the lead cuz cat was balling and then if you just hate no I'm just saying like that I'm just saying you let just if you look at the bench who he's gonna put in them now look at no No, look at the bench man. We made the names. It's the same. It's the Look at the bench man. Look here. Look you could play who you want pain He could play even playing well, he played good against boss. We won't play play pain. It's a new series though. You could play

DMP that's who you want. You want to play play pain. It's a new series though. You could play DMP that's who you want to play. You want to play the DMPs? Like shaming like like shaming themselves. Hey coming in you will say the Indiana It is not the same with TJ coming that game Seven players average double figures. That's what he's topping, wasn't he? Obe topping is probably the worst. He averages eight.

He averages eight points a game. It's the same. No, he averages eight points a game. You just got there to trust your team. No. They trust each other out there. Do I supposed to trust you first, or do you supposed to go out there and perform,

and then I trust your performance? But you got to give me a chance to trust me that's you don't only give me a chance I thought I proved it against Boston and then I went right back to mention that game oh Karen Payne came in balling like why am I here just to sit you're talking about one person we're saying trust your bench we look at the bench as a whole I'm giving with we look at the bench as a whole we look at the bench as a whole the bench doesn't is they're not you got this is not this is not Boston this ain't shit even Indiana at this point this is they

don't have enough players on the bench I mean sustain the lead right this is not Golden State 2015 nobody rich like that But I'm just saying so when you say play the bench and I read we look at the bench and we're like All right, who we gonna give 20 minutes to and they're gonna go out there and produce You know, you could give him 15 something give him something You think they got a better bitch? You think they got a better business pacers who you think the Knicks have a better bench than the Pacers I think it's about the same Hmm

Bit pace bench next. Yeah, what's named after him? So McBride is the number one player off the bench, right? He averages six Topin averages Eight he's at the bottom of the bench not the number number one bench player, he's damn near the worst bench player. He averages eight. They got guys who play 12 minutes and that hat 20 points, you know what I mean? He's damn near, should be a starter.

But he's coming off the bench. It's just a team like, so what I'm saying is, I can't say they're being out coached. I can say if I was coaching, one adjustment that I would have is this. I wouldn't let Brunson bring the ball up. I wouldn't let him bring the ball up. He hurts. It's not a good or bad thing. It's just his style. The reason they can't get fast breaks is because he's not a fast break guard

that he's not. He's not a fast break guard. He is not getting in and trying to get off the break and do something. He's going to bring the ball up, slow it up to do his thing. So that's where my bride comes from. When we get it, you go, you go, you take off, you try to you go, you take off, you try to get a fast break, and then if not, give it in the half court to him. There's just some players that's just not fast break players.

It's just not their style of pushing the break. So I would change just that little part of it because we get the rebound, we give it to Brunson, Brunson's never gonna be in full speed trying to make a layup, so he's gonna lollygag up the court by the time he does get to you know get there It's about 17 seconds does his first pick and roll or get that you know now you're looking at 12 5 like now You're you're you're a one-shot team

unless Y'all get an offensive rebound, but there's not gonna be four or five swings and that motion because of the style you play Because you're giving it to your best your best player first early right, you know, but other than that man, it's Should just have that start has Crazy turnovers. Yes, they just played down got PJ Tucker on that bitch, too Even though I mean even though Josh Hart had 11, 12 and 11, and five

turnovers yesterday filing out. And you realize how small it is when you go to that hole and Josh Hart right there. That's easy lane. I could dunk that. I just never say, I just like it's just some things that they just they do it. It's like they, they, they kill themselves because it's like just random passes for no reason, just predetermined. Like it's swinging it here. Like I'm the shooter, but I want to make an extra pass. And they're reading that

because you didn't even look at the rim on it. You're just, you know, going along that, that, that ball gets stolen. They're going in it. Besides most of the time they're driving into the lane You know going along that that that ball gets stolen. They're going in it besides Most of the time they're driving into the lane thinking pass besides og Cat when he did when he decides to go but for the most part It's just it's just little dumb plays fouls here for no reason Random three-point shots that just makes no sense to the flow of the game to be honest. They ain't supposed to be here anyway

These are not supposed to be here anyway. Knicks are not supposed to be here. No. Man. That roster. I mean, I just think it's the pace, man. I just think it's just pace with pace. It's just too fast. And then like what Gil said about Jalen Brunson bringing

the ball up, once he brings the ball up, it's already almost 17, 15 seconds on the shot clock. He's still dribbling. We talked about this earlier. But they were doing it all year though, right? But you know with the Knicks, I mean they'll probably win game five, but I don't see this thing going past game six. I just think they're fatigued and it's just they can't keep up, man.

So this has been obviously, Tibs playing his guys heavy minutes, been a topic of discussion for years now. Does he need to shift his approach if he wants to be able to take the next level? Jeff think it's 08 with the Celtics. And that's been his thing. I mean, it's not anything new. We talk about it every year. Two days is over.

To his credit, he's like the best with small guards, I think. Having that key point guard, I think he's like the great at that Yeah, cuz he even gave like Nate Robertson chances. He was balling on Chicago If you're all I do yeah, of course the rolls after the road you we thought it was over any broken Can't think of his name. He'd be training out here His dad from Houston. I think Jimmy Ball was getting off John Lucas. John Lucas. John Lucas was balling with him. Shit, they had a team. He good with little guards. But I feel like Nixon's too small for any of them.

Yeah, there was something. You know, I mentioned it. I was confused, but I don't know what I would have did. It was like the last five minutes, I was trying to figure out why Mitchell's not in, right, because they're doing a pick and roll. For the rebounder. Halle has, Kat has to switch on to him. Who's rebounding for you?

Because, you know, like who's down there, who's down there getting that rebound if your biggest guy is here, then you're relying on OG going against Miles Turner. You know what I mean? So there was like these two kids, like y'all need a big stop in the play. Y'all make the play. Give him offensive rebound, easy back. And it's like, why isn't Mitchell in? I was trying trying to figure out me personally would I have Mitchell in or do I still rely on Josh Hart do you think it's because of the free throw game he didn't they want him get foul to

go to free but I still buy food because even if he's in you can get a tap out you can get an extra possession like yeah it was just like the offensive rebound in like for him to be fouled he has to get the offensive rebound then they got a foul right there for me to be affectedled, he has to get the offensive rebound, then they got to foul him right there for me to be affected. But defensively, he's going to protect that basket, and he's going to get the rebound. And so I was struggling with it. Remember, I didn't come up with an answer.

I'm like, I can't judge Tibbs off this because I don't know what I would do. Like, you know, Josh Hart does offensive rebound and gets big rebounds. So. Yeah, he does play hard. But he gives me he can shoot if, you know, if he's open here, make a play. So I was one of those like, I can't even I can't even be mad that he's not in. But a rebound or two offensively by them at this moment in time kills us.

It was all momentum. It's like, and he's not like it's like any made makes great plays at the end, right? Yeah. Nope, let me say this again, different. Indiana makes easy plays in the last five minutes. Hallie coming down, switch, easy layup, right? Fast break, boom, easy layup. They don't settle in your struggle basketball Right you coming down pick and roll grinding They come down one pass lay work right but I said one pass lay but think about like did the grind

Easy lay like it was like Jesus Christ y'all know it's just a style But it's a bad like I just seen like how to do a pick and roll and then straight line Lay up and then you come down there dribble dribble dribble dribble dribble beat him up beat him up boom swing turn Half a lay cool huh pick and roll he takes him off the dribble lay. I'm like Jesus Christ Yeah, it's a bucket the bucket but New York it looks like if you miss one game over Because this seems like what they're doing is so fucking nonchalant and easy It's heartbreaking when you miss. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah So I said more man

I mean, I still think I still think as much as people Scores and point guards that could score you still need a floor general You need some type of floor down the down the street games Yeah, like and that's where highly that's where highly is like really taken over Yeah, a lot of these games because he's that floor general like he can he can score he can pass It's like some of these guards are just one-dimensional. It's just scoring Yeah, because they have a floor general sometimes like some to the floor general doesn't have to be necessarily point guard Just has to be somebody. Yeah, yeah, like that and New York's floor general is heart But the ball is not his hands

Enough yeah, and I feel like when say like we could go to go to state with with Draymond Green I feel like Draymond Green is the floor general. Yeah, you know, and that's what I said It's Josh Hart But you got to remember for Josh Hart to be exactly what he's supposed to be I gotta get the ball to bring it to this side right right now. It's stuck over there I need to get it to this side of you back door you hand off we manipulate it has you got to let the he's the floor General he's the guy that that's supposed to glue it all together Can you

I'm gonna show y'all something that I I I look at it basketball That's why like if I watch a game and you watch a game with me you'll hate it Because I won't finish a game because I'm gonna be rewinding looking at body. Can you go back to that highlight? You played I want the very last moment. You like to study? Very last moment. I want you to go to the last moment. Go to the last moment. I want y'all to see something and I'm gonna say,

at first I had Nicks winning the next game, but I'm gonna show you one player that might not show up. Oh God. I'm gonna say he's gonna give up the game. He's gonna be out there in ass mode. Keep going, keep going keep going and while we do this download the underdog app use promo code get a $5,000

alright rewind just a little bit rewind just a little bit this town okay now play now follow towns look at his body movement. Right, look, just go play. Did suffer injury earlier in that quarter. Just look at it, look at it. Just look. I mean, seeing this, I'm like, yeah. He's gonna be trying to catch the light.

He is gonna be too hurt to play hard. He's not gonna fully say say I can't play. That's a possibility. No, he playing. No, no, it's a possibility. Oh man, my knee too swollen. That's a possibility. Please. Yo, please rewind that again. Like he's after all that, like he's hurt. Like, and I'm like, that body language. You seen him at the free throw line? Yeah, I'm like, oh, he already has an excuse for the next game.

Yeah. Yo, please rewind that last. Oh, there you go. Oh, you want it all the way back? No, we just need the last part. And then Sam did the L that for me, young fella. Good job. Damn.

But he was complaining all the time. Right here, right here. That's the last one? Yeah, that's the last one. Yeah, just watch it. Play it. Just play it. Okay, yeah. Look at it. Just ah. Like, I'm like, I'm hurt. Oh my God. Like, no, when we was it. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, no, we'll watch it. I'm like, you know what?

Look at the step back. Why he right? Room in the game. The locker room. Run your ass to the back. Oh my God. Now let's do a poll. Now this is how you do polls.

Hey, chat, write the poll down. Do you think Carl Anthony will score at least 20 points next game, or he's going to be mentally in Cancun? Do that poll. Look at that, Joe. Cat, 20 points in game five. I feel like he's trying be mentally in Cancun. Yeah. Do that poll. Look at that, Joe. Cat, 20 points in Game 5. Or mentally in Cancun. Now you remember, listen, it's 3-1, right?

3-1, there's gonna be at least four niggas that's not showing up to play. Oh yeah, man. You know the energy it... Listen, the energy it takes to come back and make this a game seven when I can just not play the DMV on vacation tomorrow. Hey that jog is crazy. That jog is sick.

His car is packed. All his clothes he want to wear. This is why when people talk about like team shit, they don't take in this this this game seven this is the game when when you only have two players that's like yeah I think we can win this series there's there's three players that's like you know what you know we'll see how we play you got one player that's like, you know what? You know, we'll see how we play. You got one player that's like, man, if you don't shut the fuck up, damn. This shit is over.

You know what I mean? This shit is over. Then you got someone like, man, I ain't doing shit today, man. I'm good. That's cool. You got to remember, you got to play all of them. You got to play all of them. It depends on how the first 10 minutes.

If you start off 0-10 to 3, we good. They on the other side. And then that was 5 against 2. If you ballin' and y'all winnin', those 3 are on your side. Yep. And that's how the locker room works, man. Everybody in that motherfucker You know the same page of winning you just there's just an accepted in coming along with you because y'all in this position

But I can tell you right now one two three can cool is for it. You know the story Yes, one two three can cool right ready to go. I'm ready to go fuck this up Don't don't expect me to do shit, But this was a different time, Cancun, a different vacation destination. When we was down three years ago. Much more elusive and luxurious. Man, what's that again? But I'm just saying, the thought process,

where the person who said it thought everybody was on the same page. Fuck this game. And you got to know, like, wait, what you talking about? We trying to win. We ain't got a chance. Yeah. So, we asked the chat up her your request will cat score 20 next 20 wins next game 37% said yes

63% said he's mentally in can come already Shout out to our chapter after all that Why would you think I will be in? Nigga, you got a tan line. Already? You got a tan line already, bro. Like you already been in the sud. Well, you booked that room, you booked that hotel for us, right? Speaking of cat, let's go back to an interesting moment during the game, late in the third

quarter while cat was at the free throw line. A Pacers fan did this. The hearing impaired a fan chanted out meow meow meow. While it's unclear if the meow meow meow was the reason cat missed the free throw, did prove to be a solid distraction. So bringing you to my next question for you gentlemen, what's the funniest thing you heard while at the free throw line? Damn.

I don't know. That you feel comfortable sharing with a gills reader presented by Under the Woo Woo. Meow. Meow. Was it when Andre Blass checked in? When Andre Blass checked in? Yeah.

And Paul Pierce? Yeah. Yeah. He was like, who is you? Who is you? Tell me about it. I don't even know you. Turn around.

Was he on the sky? Was he on the sky reporter? He said, is he on the sky? Turn around. Let me see the back of your name when you were turning. Did he turn around? Yeah. Yeah.

He did turn around and show him the back. Yeah, that's when I was a rookie. I think it's probably at the Drew League when you're playing in the summertime. Oh yeah, McGill missed our free throws for the playoff and Brandon was like this. But I already missed it. No, no, no, no. I already missed it. So it didn't matter.

That was our chance to go to the championship. Yup, that was in the drew. That was our only chance. Jimmy Finals, we losing to regular niggas in the streets. Regular niggas, it's me and you. I got a three time, four time all star on my team. And he looking for me to shoot the ball for the end. No, I gave it right back to your ass.

Real lipstick. This is what gonna happen in the game, right? Don't give it to me here. Nah. Give this your team. This is Morse Warner, god damn it. I already been that. I'm trying to shake that. I'm trying to shake that neck, god damn it. As soon as I got the jersey, Morse Warner. Oh my god. Why can't I be like the, shit, the running Rebels sound a lot better than this. Just go keep reminding me, huh? Just can't run from it, huh? The freak fell out.

Yeah, mine was in Indiana, man. Yeah. Mine was in Indiana. You've dealt with Pacers fans before, yeah? They could be fight patrols. It was very clever. What'd they do? Did they grab you like this?

No, they didn't grab me like that. One grabbed the other one like that. And they mimicked what what what was supposed to be going on in the bedroom between you know, Shaq and my what's-his-name in there. Oh, I remember that. Yeah, yeah. You were there for that? It was basically one was Shaq and one was the baby mama and They was doing the motion of the bedroom. I can tell you this though, it worked. If you thought I missed the LeBron free throws bad,

imagine hitting the side of the backboard at the free throw line. I'm not going to go to your routine. Say it. It's not saying it. It probably didn't sound like it. Fuck this game. It's like I threw the bitch like this. Boom. I was like, boom.

Just like, boom. I was like, boom. I was like, boom. I was like, boom. I was like, boom. I was like, boom. I was like, boom. I was like, boom. I was like, boom. I was like, boom. I was like, boom. I was like, boom. I said it probably did sound like fuck this game.

It's like I threw the bitch like this. Boom, I was like, boom, just boom. Violation, didn't hit shit. Oh, shit. I ain't gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna shoot the second one. You know what? Hey, ref.

Just keep that. Just keep that. He's gonna put his foot over the line. Just keep that. Just keep that free throw. Let's just go on him back down. Let me play a little defense real quick. I wasn't expecting that. He's gonna sit there, get the 10 second call on purpose.

Just keep doing this. If you got a 10 second, just might keep it. He just have to, on the second one, just keep doing it. Just looking at the person. I hit all glass, boy. On the free throw line. Oh, yeah. Well, speaking of trolling, 50 seconds, you're gonna have to get the ball in the net.

You're gonna have to get the ball in the net. You're gonna have to get the ball in the net. You're gonna have to get the ball in the net. You're gonna have to get the ball in the net. You're gonna have to get the ball in the net. You're gonna have to get the ball in the net. You're gonna have to get the ball in the net. You're gonna have to get the ball in the net. You're gonna have to get the ball in the net. You're gonna have to get the ball in the net. You're gonna have it. Just looking at the person. I hit all glass, boy Well speaking of trolling 50 cent has gained a reputation for being one of the biggest trolls in the game

50 was sitting courtside at game four Posted this pic on his IG. You see Tyrese Halliburton in the background With another of his spectacle Caucasian to the other side of him. He's gotta be a trainer, right? He had a free Diddy shirt on with the following caption, bro, this game is crazy. He also tagged Branson Cognac, his beverage. Free Diddy.

But that's not the shirt. That was not Diddy, it was a, cause he had a different shirt on later in the game. No don't know. Oh, he changed shirts. He posted this to his Instagram. So I don't know if he wore that. I don't know. But OK, now this is why personality up is matter. Yeah. He wears this shirt on national TV not one woman Will be mad at him because they know he's trolling So they understand what he's doing

He don't want didi he just trolling and shit cuz he knows didi's paying to anybody now if any other celebrity It's over for him. I feel like if the shirt was photo shot, he was wearing a different shirt during the- No, but even if he did- And because they really have like- No, but it was an if he did, everyone knows he don't fuck with 50 Cent to really be,

right, they know he is mocking the idea of did he pay in the $200 or $20 to people to wear the shirt, right? And we, you know what I mean? So we know the context of if he did wear it, he's trolling them. And nobody will say nothing, but if it was a regular celebrity with an arm, you're canceled. But that's, he's built that. He's built the trust of his fan base to know, we know when you're trolling, we know when you're serious, and for the most part, 98% of the shit you do is trolling,

and we like it, no matter if it's not and even in the great taste. We be like, 50's 50, he never changes. And if it's funny, it's funny. It's funny, it's funny. Those are the rules. So let's move over to the Western Conference Finals. Timber Wolf season on life support

as they face a 3-1 deficit, heading into game five tonight in Oklahoma City. In NBA playoff history, 90% of teams to go up 3-1 have gone on to win the series. 93? That's cap. 96. Oh, I thought you said 90.

That's 96, yeah. 96. That's why it's important to listen. Listen to your host. The face of hosting, no tattoos visible. I understand it now. You understand it now? Yours is, I studied.

Although the 73 win warriors did come back on the thunder in the 28th and Western Conference Finals. So the Wolves will attempt to stave off elimination on the road in OKC tonight. What needs to change for the Wolves in game five to keep their season alive? It's over. 2025, 2026 season. Is this a new season? That's what needs to change. The calendar. 2025-2026 season. That's what needs to change.

The calendar needs to change all the way into October to have a chance to win and make it. Yeah, I think OKC closes out tonight. Yeah, they whipping they ass. I think Ant-Man comes out though. He does this thing. He's going to shoot a lot since he took a lot of blame from the last game. But I mean, it's OKC's. They're younger, man.

They play more together. And I think SGA, yeah, he's going to definitely close them out tonight at home. So we saw the Wolves, opposite side of this, first round against the Lakers. That series goes from potentially being two-two, close game Obviously Minnesota game for and now back to LA down 3-1

Same situation, but good like you just pointed out players part of that team is mentally checked out already There ain't no way we went in three games We get all sitting here pretending film and rah rah and all that good shit Man, we you know locker room man. You can feel the band. You can feel it. Yeah, you know, I mean but the fucked-up parties Man when you're in that locker room man, you can feel the band. You can feel it. You know what I mean? There's a pause. But the fucked up part is, the star player can't ever say it. Because you can't throw your teammates under the bus. You gotta say some political shit for the fans and for the media.

You know what I mean? That's where, hey, you know, if we trying to win every you know, the y'all know if anybody could do it It's us, you know, I mean we're y'all is where you know, the the coaches gotta be better The the players gotta be better the janitor's gotta be better You got to try to make it but he only talking to a few people but you know, it's gotta be better He was not talking to you But that's what said the star player But but if you'll star player Checked out

Yeah, it's good. It's good riddance. Do you feel like a man checked out? No, no, I mean, no, no I mean and man's gonna do his thing tonight. He's gonna Go out with a he gonna try to go out with a bang and you know But I think what he gonna do is it's gonna take everybody else out the game Like they're not gonna be able to match his energy Like how hard he's going if you're okay, so that's gonna be energy been the same from the start though If you're okay see they trapping the fuck out of him I feel like he don't got the same energy as he has like even talking about Lebron and don't before the game

I'm gonna kill him and she's like I'd never see him do that to somebody in his age group. I mean, he was doing the brawn push in the first round. Yeah, all that energy. And as a brawn fan, I'm very disappointed. Like, damn, that would be a beauty. You love going at the KDs. Not the same when you're doing it to Lou Dory and he not moving, because he builds like a pit bull dog.

Yeah, you're probably, I want that energy. Because they his age, too. That's what I'm saying. You know what it is? Like, I get up for some of my my older guy, like I couldn't wait to play against him. What is the worst? We know, I know we all know the answer,

because we've heard people say it plenty of times. What is the worst thing a defense can do to you in summer runs that will irritate the fuck out of you that you don't want to play. Oh trap you. Yeah just double team you all again. Are we double teaming? Yeah I think that's what Devin Booker was doing. Are we double teaming him? Aw man I'm good man. Think about what happened the first two games. Because they were trapping them and dubbing them. And it's like, dang, y'all not even.

Shoot them. So y'all just gonna let, y'all just gonna. So I'm just gonna. Y'all wasn't giving Chienzo to be the star. Y'all just want. All right, that's what we doing here. You want me to pass an Oz Reed and you want them to have 20 and shit. All right. All right, that's what we doing here. Yeah, you want me to pass an Oz read and you want them to have 20 and shit

All right. Yeah, right. I'm we playing y'all man to man, you know, we ain't doubling y'all and that's that becomes the ego That's like the ego is not hey, let's get out of this series. The ego is When you're you know, when you you hit me with the double team To take me out of the series. Mm-hmm. Oh, they're saying we ain't playing basketball dog But here you can't say that oh these bitch ass niggas don't look cuz they scared me No, that's the game plan now makes you look selfish, but make sure look selfish. I didn't want me to pass the ball Please oh, I think just trying to play the right way If you win and like let's say he won I already know if he won and he played like that,

yeah, this is a great team. When you're here, this is a great team win. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I know how mad he was when he jumped. You know how mad that nigga was when he jumped. You see how high he jumped with me? And threw that bitch in. That team stuff only, players like that,

players like that care about team stuff is when they're the main guy. Like, if it's a team, like, nobody in Indiana's gonna be tripppping if Siakam gets finals MVP or something. It's a team thing. But if like Julius or somebody else, Dante get finals MVP over there in Minnesota, it's going to be kind of like- Like if Dante got like-

What? Dante got this- Oh, that's it? Bruh! Yeah, this is, you know, we, you know, we, we, we, we, we, we did this as a team, you know. This is good, right? Let's go, let's go. We hated this thing, but.

It was great. Yeah, the same, the same thing. All the shit I did for you. You know, you go, real time. And this is how you do me. Hey, now, hey, listen, listen. All right, this is the heck up. David Chinzo is the Western Conference final MVP,

straight at me, bam, and Julius. And he's like this. He's like, like how Russell was when KD got that in me. I ain't standing right at the top. Mine next. There you go. I don't like this shit at all.

I miss watching ThunderGram, the Russ, and KD, and the little subtle shit that they would do to me. I'll give a fuck. When people be talking up here, talking about that team win, I'm looking up to sound like, how they can say it because he had 30, like his shit matches. This is great, team win. When motherfucker done had five, he averages 30,

and the team won, he ain't happy. He ain't happy, I'll get fucked. What comes out his mouth? This is when you do it. When they telling you it's a great team win, but they still reading the stats sheet. Right? It's like being at an award show. And you don't win the award and they

put the camera right to you. It's a great team win, man. We both out there, we pass the ball around a lot. Yeah, you know, everybody did their part. Everybody did their part part and we just got They go be man listen they got that first meeting with him in the summer Play no better but came out did they part and uh, you know, everyone had to step up and you know do Shit, man, you could hear you could hear it

What you hear that should be funny issue with what I know because you're not been around NBA So you watching interviews and looking at this as an air that realize every time the star player Didn't play well and but the team won and and you hear them say, yeah, this was a great team win. We gotta start doing stuff like this. And then you start hearing that, yeah, and then the coach come in there, hey, this was a great effort. You know, a whole team, and we should start doing shit like this.

Start playing over that. From here, like, wow. When we play like this together more, we will be winning. We gotta keep staring the ball. And then the fucked up part, the number two option is the one who actually played well. So he on the end, we need to play more like this. I'm telling y'all.

Run the offense through me. Yeah, I'm telling y'all. I'm telling y'all, if Weston ain't get them off the ball, we all gonna have a chance. Yeah, we get off the ball, everybody's eating good. We're gonna win the round, yeah. All right, well, let's shift over to the Sunnyside. Thunder game away, the NBA finals, SGA. Regular season MVP, playing at an MVP level this postseason.

So during Inside the NBA's pregame show Tuesday night, Charles Barkley made some interesting comments about the face of the league debate. Let's take a listen. OKC is the best team in the NBA. I've been telling y'all that for two months. Hey, ESPN, I love you guys. Don't try to make Anthony Ebb with the face of the NBA. The face of the NBA is

Shea Gilder's Alexander Joker and Yanis you can't give it to people they have to take it and she Gilder's Alexander is taking it Okay, she Well, let me know you said that then you've given it Now let's play a game of fashion. What I'm saying is he's he's telling me you're giving it to someone and they're not the face of the NBA right now. Contradiction. Let's play a game of facts or cap. SGA is taking over as the face of the NBA facts or cap. Let's start with you Mr. B. Cap. Why do you say cap sir?

I'm just like what Gill was saying earlier, he's not there yet, far as the superstar. And he's headed in the right direction. But I mean, this is the first time we're able to see him this late into the season. So if he's able to get to the finals and win it, then you know you can go into the summer. And they may be coming into next year.

But it's the first time we're able to see him in this type of situation right now Move over to swag again bring your championship experience to the couch Tim Duncan Jersey you got in a flea market a face know the face. I Will say cat right now. He's just you don't got the machine behind him I think all that goes in together, shoes, just your personality, a little too laid back. But he's a great athlete, but you do need that, that machine behind you.

Shoes matter in this game too. He got the aura though. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, like, like, like, like, like, yeah. He got the aura though So if we're looking at The the face of the NBA blueprint He checks every box He checks every box right is just that the one thing that is lacking is The market. Yeah, that's the market is

One thing that is lacking is the market. Yeah, that's right. That's the market is. The market is big. You look at a guy like Yannis, can you be bigger than your market joker also named by Nugget? But then you're gonna need a great marketing team to market you.

But when you're talking about like, he has the, he does have the cadence to talk. Like he has it. He is a superstar that is sitting there waiting for his name to be called. Everybody else needs, like, if he just moved to a different city, he don't need to win, he will be labeled a superstar.

Because his jersey sale's gonna go like, like, think of it like this. Removing Luca from Dallas, how much did it change? He goes from three, four Jersey sales to jump LeBron just by moving cities. There is, that is a thing, right? You're gonna be more recognized. You know what I mean?

So with him, he's gonna need winning. But here's my question. When we talk about small markets, who is the biggest superstar, that was a superstar, coming from a small market? Who is that? California, let's go to the state. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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Denver, yup. Yannis? You got the shoes, Denver. Carmelo. Okay, so Carmelo, Yannis. I feel like all the megastars had Nike behind them though. Facts. Nah T-Mac. But still he's not a megastar. Nah he's a megastar. But he had Yao so he had the country so he was but when you're talking about so he was a megastar in

China. No no no he was a no no no no no. That nigga was a megastar here too. He was my favorite player but no not like how Kobe in the woods. When he was in when he was in Houston, because Houston is the, it's a second tier market. Okay. So Houston, Boston, Chicago, Miami, Dallas. I can read the top 10 for you if you like. In the small market? So New York, obviously, so Nix Net is number one.

LA with Lakers, Clippers, Chicago three, Philly four, Dallas five, Toronto six, Golden State seven, Atlanta eight, Houston nine, Washington Wizards ten, Boston eleven. So that's second tier. So I'm trying to- You're Kyrie? No, no, so I'm trying to say who became big outside

was so funny and this is- Cleveland considered a medium-sized market. I had to look this up. I had to look this up I had to look it up when someone said when someone said Kyrie I don't know if anybody noticed when Kyrie went to Boston whatever shoes he came out with then is the ones that bumped up I don't is the like I think it was huh it was after that shot no but what I'm saying is when he put the Boston Jersey on his shoe cuz that's when he came on like the sponge Bob right was that that

was when he was there right yeah I think so like where did the confetti's come in and I think they was they had they shoot together they I don't know if they're running and carry had us no I had a shoe together but I don't know if the- Ron and Carrie had a shoe. No, I had a shoe together, but the number one, where did the confetti, when he came out with the confettis and the SpongeBob's, what team was he on? I think that was- Cause it was like, somebody was like, it was when he, it was like the summer of the threes and the fours.

Cause it was in Boston. That's when his shoe skyrocketed because of- Yeah, and then he jumped, he jumped somebody in Nike cause he was right under there. Yeah, he jumped, yeah, that's what I said, that's when his shoe skyrocketed because yeah, and then he jumped. He jumped somebody in Nike because he was right. Yeah, that's when he jumped. He was right. I think he jumped. But it was in Boston. He had the Boston jersey on. It was in the Cleveland jersey. Yeah, like he was like almost number one in shoe sales. He was next to Lebron. I know. But just like this. But it was after he when he was he just telling you with an okay see Would you say they would you put a name in that what Dame small market small more than yeah?

Supers like it was a small market guy, but that but if you did that he had that argument, too Like I'm doing all of this man. Y'all ain't even so but you look at Shay, okay see 26 out of 28 market so third smallest market Stop saying you can be a superstar in any market because of social media No, it's not a real thing. No, that's not nice facts. I mean that's hand depending I can show you I can show you today. So why K a shoe contract that was given to my son today 2025 a shoe contract that has bonuses in certain teams. I had it in mine. So you had it in yours

2025 today. Yeah, but I get it. No, I hear you. Just he got this base contract. If he gets drafted by New York or Brooklyn New York or Brooklyn, contract bonus skyrockets. LA, Lakers or Clippers, skyrockets. Then there's a big ass drop for the next eight middle teams, right? You get a little bonus, like let's say 50,000. Let's say a million for the other four, 50,000 for these, that's Chicago, Boston, and what's-it-name.

You get extra bonus per year. Just being there. Everything else, no bonus on the other cities. That's a shoe contract. But that's starting up. But if you're in a small market, you can make yourself popular, too, though. You can make yourself popular, but when we're talking about megastars,'s like if we're talking about through history like it's it's a hard thing It's not like I'm saying some it ain't the 2000s no more, but you got a three-time MVP

Can't sell jerseys can't sell shoes. We don't you don't talk about them So my question for you is John Moran plays in the smallest TV market in the league How impressive is what he's been able to do in terms of his star power What happens if he jumps to Brooklyn or Clippers But it's a whole different animal, but if job was Okay, see like winning in the finals job would have been this This should have been out of here without the trouble If he'd have made it to the final trouble right without the trouble. Oh, yeah without the even with the trouble

Well, yeah some of the yeah But who's bigger right now Okay, it's like that you got to think about it. You talking about then Ja? No, Shay or Ja? Oh, I'm still saying Ja. Okay. Right now, one is going to MVP, one is going to win the finals MVP. I'm going with Shay. But right now, I guarantee you if Ja did something right now,

he will be trending way more than Shea. So before playoff, before playoff. I seen baseball. Please let us stay down. I seen baseball. I seen baseball. Throw the grenade. That's all gold.

Baseball. But the more you see. They're going to be throwing it. The more you see. I mean, football. We'll find out, because I feel feel like it's gonna change the next 12 months, but top selling NBA jerseys This is the April 2025 report. So before playoffs got in full swing job was eighth. Shea was ninth It'll change It'll change if he if she wins it

Yeah, now if he they if they win a championship, he's gonna have more visibility. I think the league will start to make a push. No, no, he has a, listen, he has a style, right? He has a style. Nobody's not saying he's not gonna be the face. He's not gonna be where he wants to be in the city he's in because that's just not a big enough market for the world for you

to push him as a world. It's not Nike neither are I mean he's got a ball you got a lot of 14 if you're out his shoes are out. They don't come out until next year. No, they're out. No, they drop They dropped around all-star The fact that y'all Just did the shoe thing at all star weekend, right? But that was to show you his shoe his shoe don't just turn no member or something like that That's what I said. It depends. They got the machine like me Different other shoes out fall 2025 see oh damn they was doing all that promotion that are yeah who does that

album when they want to have more a movie like I just like you would have like well let me choose you to have job right now if you're gonna find it what every round thank you. Every round. But see, look, you gotta remember, I'm coming from Hollywood. Yeah. Because I study what makes people what's in them, I understand.

So I talk to the coach. I talk to PR people. So I understand the entertainment standpoint. So this next game, this closeout game, I have a chance to win MVP, right? Or finals MVP. I will be getting it tonight, right? I would have Converse make 20,000 shirts on the seats that says finals MVP. She Shay, 20,000. I will roll the dice. Western Conference Finals?

Western Conference Finals. I will roll, I will, or my face. I had mask. Halloween, we played on Halloween. I had 20,000 mask of my face in the crowd. And you got people sitting there like that with me on it. Going out trick or treating. That's how I sold myself.

That's Mark. That's Mark. Game one, playoffs, free beer for everyone. You pay for the beer, girl. Shoes, I did the shoe sale, the shoe thing. I did that stuff to try to get into the next level. And that's why I'm saying with Shay, you're at the point where, shit, you're at the level where you're MVP. I'm trying to get my name up there. You're winning

You're gonna win. You got a 90% chance of winning a championship You got a 100% chance of winning the finals or the Western Conference finals MVP You gotta you gotta do the promotion part of it. You to make the game and the game is marketing marketing the game is you got to take the kites and not stuff right now where where pop up on the screen I'm having fans on the court this if I'm SGA after I win I'm going to a k? Yes. With the trophy and with my teammates. We've seen KD become a superstar in OKC. We've seen Russ become a superstar in OKC. So it's not unprecedented even in that small market.

Yeah, but KD was already a superstar before. High school, you came out of high school. College. I just got in with high school. Like Cindy Wimelo, he's coming into the NBA as a superstar. But one last thing. Russ, though. Russ was still a little underrated.

I mean, I just said, damn, this is what I said. And I'm going to tell you why Russ, and when you talk about this thing, the 2000s. Yeah. If Russ was in LA or New York and averaged a triple double for three straight seasons, he's God. But because he was in a small market, he's patting his stack.

That's what you do to a small market player. Big market player, you ain't doing that shit to a big market player, that's Superman God in a big market player. Big market player, you ain't doing that shit to a big market player. That's Superman God in a big market. Do you feel like that's what's, you know, with Yana's situation right now, right? Where he's at, everything he's, you think he's, you know, he's starting to get into that type of situation too? Man, if this, I can tell you this. If he was in Philly, if he was in any top tier market

and with these numbers. and all the accolades Yeah, all the accolades and just the numbers themselves. He will be he would have probably had more MVPs Because when you're in a small market, you have to do so much. That's like when you think about yokage Look how much yokage? Has to do to be there. Look whata had to do to be there, right? Look what Yannis is 33 and 12, and we like, yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever, right? You know what I mean?

They have to do so much more because of the market size. Like even with Charles Barkley, Charles Barkley has to go out his way every single time to talk about the small market. He never played in the small market. I mean, Phoenix is a small market. Is he really? Kind of.

It was kind of like a, but it was a popular, it was a popular, it was a popular team, but it was a popular team, but somebody like him, you never played in the small market, but what is your angle for you to always talk about small markets, to keep pushing it? When your check is built on talking about big markets, that hundred million you're getting is because of the algorithm. You have to talk about the Lakers. You have to talk about Golden State. You have to talk about these teams.

Because I guarantee you, if you wanted to sit there and talk about Jokic and Cleveland and Orlando and Indiana all the time, no one's watching your programming because the people who fell off that's what they were doing. That's why they failed. But what if that's the only teams that's winning right now? That was the only team that was winning this year. How many, how many, think about, just think about what I'm saying. Lakers, we talked about Lakers all day every day. Those are the topics, all day every day on every goddamn

channel. How many runs, how many runs did Cleveland go on? They went on 312 game winnings. 312 game winnings. Started 15 and 0. They started 15 and 0, nobody even blinked their eye. We addressed it on the Gillsbury represent. But we addressed it because it's at a certain point. But six in a row, seven in a row, eight in a row, nine in a row, ten in a row.

The players are quiet though. But I'm saying you have to do, they got Allen. It don't matter. Donovan Mitchell. They say well let's talk about winning, they're winning quietly, no one gives a fuck. You know what I mean? Let's let's talk about one more thing I thought okay see cuz you could break out of that cuz that they kind of got that you keep saying They you keep saying they can but they won They were number one last year number one this year and they didn't get no respect last year But then they didn't get no respect this year now. No cuz it is only team to talk about now That's what I'm saying the more you win Who's been more televised and talked about?

In this in these series right now and in both Was that more talked about the Knicks? Cuz it's the I mean The next like it is the Knicks the next fan base along the next fan But if you just go to they fan base you like it they they killing in this series So one more thing to address before we get to mostly fans. So Patbabb was in the building for Game 4 of the Western Conference Finals in Minnesota, told this story in his podcast about an interaction he had with SGA after the game.

So I'm going to tell you about Shea, how cold Shea is. I go to Shea after the game to Dap him up. He said, I ain't going to lie, I can't Dap you up right now. OG, what the fuck? Wow, he get wild. You got on that motherfucking jersey. Jersey I had on was Anthony Edwards. Ooh.

That's the mindset you have to have. He's not even going to be seeing Dap and you up in the jersey. Yeah, like don't even come near me with that jersey. Type shit. I respect it. I like it. That's how you have to be.

I knew where it's coming from. It's coming from a good place. It's coming from an organic place. And he locked in. That's what I took from that. Like, oh yeah, he locked the fuck in right now. I love it. He had oil on his hands.

Nobody want to touch mechanic hands. It's a rough. Get your hands dirty. Probably just changed somebody's oil. It was like, what's up, my man? Grease stains on your clothes. You know, he probably got a new watch. Everybody got new watches.

He didn't want grease on it. Grease things on your clothes. You know, he probably got a new watch. Everybody got new watches. He ain't gonna grease on it. Unnecessary. And you see somebody looking like that just show up. Do you respect XJ for not dubbing up Pat Beth because he was wearing an in-man jersey? Mechanic jokes aside.

Like, it's literally so he did he he had better telling a different story that that was presented in a sense of how he was talking on the mic when you're talking about 40 points and all that right and He's so locked in he don't even want to associate with this team like that I even I respect you og but you got you got the jersey on right now And I'm not really fucking with that because I'm I'm sitting here. This is this is an enemy right now When the series over where you're cool, but right now this is an enemy so anything that has to do with that. I'm cool on Yeah, cool, but right now this is an enemy. So anything that has to do with that. I'm cool on But you know you listen to him talk to his teammates you think oh this nigga don't care about no basketball

And I was like, I don't know if they're reading it wrong Right. Yeah, I call he's entertaining anyway, you know, he's just part of the whatever but These dudes is bouncing back I care about the bounce back. You have seven today. What are you the next game? That's all this is always about man. It's about the bounce back. What is your bounce back like? And you're going to have a bad game.

You're going to have an amazing game. You're going to have a subpar game. It's always the bounce back, right? As many games as you have the zeros, right? If I play a 48 minute game and I got zero, like I'm 0 for 15, that might happen two times in my career. Two times on the other side is a perfect game. Those are rarities. Right. It's always the you know, I mean, just the bounce back. It's it's staying close to the middle, but that's the mindset of, you know.

I like that. I like that. I definitely liked it. I mean, even when he threw that, remember, we was talking about why he throw that ball in the last play and then the fan caught it. Yeah. You know, he's you know, they had a clip of him talking to the fan like, you're smart. Like he's so lucky. He just, yeah, so he's all locked in.

I mean, you know, Pat Bae been wearing everybody's jersey. So he's me. And on that note, let's move to mostly fans. Yeah, who wore SGA jersey next? Presented by the good people at Underdog. Download the Underdog app. You from and go get a thousand dollars in bonus cash plus a special pickin'.

So we have one question from a long time fan of the show. Underdog users Zedarian. Said 1.3 seconds on the clock down by two, no timeouts. What NBA player, not named Jordan or Kobe, do you trust the most to get a bucket? 1.3 seconds on the clock down by two, no timeouts. What player, not named Jordan or Kobe, do you trust the most to get a bucket?

In this era? Or I think any era. Any era? I'm gonna go Kevin Durant. KD, you think we'll get you that bucket? Yeah. And even if his foot on the line, we're still going to over-count.

Seven foot. I'm gonna go myself. Swagger, you have elected yourself to go get the bucket with 1.3 seconds left. I'm a couple game winner. Thank you. Down to 1.3 seconds. I'm in the middle between Paul Pierce and Game Time.

What team? Nobody wants to say it without. Blazers. Oh, okay. Okay. Blazers day, bro. Sure. That day, yeah. Yeah, that's game time.

What? Yeah, that's what I'm looking around for you. I might go Tyrese Highland-Burke. So between them two, I'm going to go with myself. So between those two, you will go with Gilbert Arena? Nah, I'm going to go with the... You hit a lot. I don't know.

I'm just saying. I was him. I was him. God, fuck Brunson. I'm going to go with Clunch. I'm going to go with the Clutch guy. Listen, I wanted to say Brunson from the beginning, but I'm off New York. But this could be any player in history.

You think he had more Clutch moments in the playoff than Tyrese in this playoff? He was, oh, this playoff. Think about this playoff. Clutch, whoa, whoa. Clutch moments, remember the Cl moment is with the last five minutes. Yes. The last five minutes. Think about that.

Under a certain, no then it'd be Brunson then. Because Brunson's the only person that shoots the last five minutes of the game. Like literally every bucket. Think about it. No, I don't care about the shot in this, those are rarity. No, before that, even with Cleveland, he dribbled out is so cool that's one those are two shot what's the names all all of Brunson's buckets it's in that same it's in the last five minutes but think about what I'm saying like if he's if they scored ten bucket of ten points

even if they don't win a game and you hit a game winner, I got 10 points to your three. But you're winning the game, but that's what I'm saying. I'm going by how they describe what clutch means. Remember, he's the only one that shoots on his team. So he's gaining all clutch points if the game is close. He's taking every shot versus Halle's doing this and then he takes the game winner You know what I mean, so, you know when you're talking about game winners you can say okay Holly's hit the most game winners in those moments

but when you're talking about like The last five minutes within a certain amount then is Brunson because all of his points is coming in That's that that time frame all his big buckets everything that look what he did on Tyrese what he did to Milwaukee He had clutch moments then made his daddy come out. Yeah, Danny went to Cleveland had clutch moments in I think this did some shit. I ain't never seen we I mean we Listen to what you got to listen to what I'm saying I'm saying the category is the last five minutes of a game Right. So how many points he scores in the last five minutes is all

Acculated as clutch that does everything have to be points. Can it just be making plays? I know it says points That's all it is. I'm going off of I'm going off of this how they categorize it But off of optics then itize it. But off of optics, then it's Holly off of optics. But if someone did the totals of last five minutes and go by the clutch total, it's probably going to be Hallie or SG. No, they haven't had many close games. So you got to remember all the comebacks, all the, you got to think about all his comebacks from 20 points. At some point in the last five minutes when that game got close, he's hitting all the points.

So he gets all of that. It's not like Josh Harsher's getting points. It's like they're not getting points. He's getting all those. Bridges started a comeback against Boston. Towns did against Detroit. This was throughout the course of history, but I appreciate your gentleman selection.

Go play for us to wrap up. I'm gonna calculate it. I'm gonna go through it and go and see. I'll type it in to see what. You gotta say I study. I study. Do your line. God damn. Don't be afraid of you. But let me just, just, how about this. The moment for people to remember, hey. This is the thing too, that for young Hoopers out there and fans out there, preach, sometimes memories of a moment have to be captured for you to be remembered and for you to be liked.

So if I say, hey, Allen Iverson, can you tell me about, give me a play that Allen Iverson did. Most people can say, boom, the crossover, second second the step over. Yeah, right Cuz I thought about it when someone says Jason Tatum don't have a play that you can remember Duncan Oh, yeah, like that moment that moment. No, you remember because it's a long James Right and that was game set. Yeah, I remember that. Halle's done created... No. Moments.

Moments! He's done created... You didn't even remember that. What? You didn't even remember them moments? No, I said, no, you're saying, I'm thinking total, like who has the most? I'm not, I didn't know moment. That's what I'm saying.

I was gonna say, if you're thinking about the moments, Halle's created moments to be remembered. Right? The bounce, this, that, this, that, those are gonna be stuck in people's heads. It's gotta be your own moment though, you can't. That is his own moment. You can't recreate somebody else moment. Is recreate.

I think that's just bringing moments, bringing them back. Is recreated in a better fashion. I feel like. Because what I'm saying is. Like Space Jam 2. No, no, what I'm saying is like space jam to no no what I'm saying is it did the the the ideal of it bounce goes Lanes and bounce again right so then it becomes but what you remember about oh he did the Reggie Miller It's the Halley, but but but not in this era though like like kids today

They won't they'd be like oh Holly did the token I'll call it the Halley, but I don't use it for somebody else You gotta have a moment. Like Trey Young, like when we talked about dude with Trey Young, and they said, like, Trey Young, ice chills, rolling a dice. No matter when his career is over with and done, you're going to always remember those moments.

And for you to get into next levels, you gotta have moments. There has to be into next levels, you got to have moments. There has to be something. Like when I recreated your moment when I turned. Yeah, you're known for that moment. And on that note, good place to end the show. Appreciate everybody. I mean, even though you don't go to the Bronx.

Appreciate everybody on this couch. I got it on film. Mr. B will be on Playback tonight, Playback.TV slash hostile territory covering the Western Conference finals. We will be back in the arena tomorrow But this has been another episode of gills arena presented by underdog