Gil's Arena - James Harden's RESURGENT Season SHOCKS Gil's Arena

Episode Date: December 2, 2024

James Harden's RESURGENT Season SHOCKS Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & the Gil's Arena Crew return to Gil's Arena with an action-packed post-Thanksgiving show. They kick things off by reacting to the Lakers failure to defend their NBA Cup after being eliminated from the NBA In Season Tournament and analyze the first 20 games for the Lakers this season, debating how confident we should be in the Lakers' championship hopes this season and if LeBron James needs to deferring to Anthony Davis at the end of games in his 22nd NBA Season. Next, they react to Los Angeles Clippers continuing their impressive run without Kawhi Leonard by winning 7 of their last 9 games on the back of a vintage James Harden season, sparking a debate on who has been the more influential hooper to the game of basketball, the beard or Steph Curry. Next, they give a classic Gil's Arena Reaction to the Washington Wizards' WINLESS November and debate if we will see the worst season in NBA history this year before breaking down the Boston Celtics' blown loss to the Cleveland Cavaliers where the reigning champs proved they may not be as good as people think. Finally, they whip around the NBA with a special Hibachi Time and react to big performances around the league from superstars like Victor Wembanyama, Donovan Mitchell and Alpren Sengun. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Use code GIL10 for 10% off your SeatGeek order https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Try VIIA! https://viia.co/gil and use code GIL! Watch Lakers vs Timberwolves With The Gil's Arena Crew! https://playback.tv/gilbertarenas Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:59 Kenyon's Reaction To GNX 0:04:56 College Football Fights On Rivalry Week 0:14:08 Most Disrespectful Thing A Rival Did To You 0:20:17 Gil's Arena ROASTS The Utah Jazz Coach 0:24:56 Is The Jazz's Tank for Cooper Flagg Obvious? 0:36:20 Lakers ELIMINATED From The NBA Cup 0:38:59 Grading LeBron's 22nd Season 0:49:30 James Harden Is CARRYING The Clippers 1:13:00 Are The Clippers Contenders With Kawhi? 1:21:10 Who Is More Influential..Steph or Harden? 1:31:04 Wizards' No-Win November 1:51:36 Cavs Get Revenge on the Celtics 2:04:14 Can Anyone Beat A Healthy Celtics Team? 2:12:45 MostlyFans 2:20:28 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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That is how it gets. Are you ready? Okay. Yeah, okay. He's out. All right, I'll see how y'all do. Oh, yes. Shot has to go retrieve. Hold on.

The most important piece of equipment. It's an important day today. OK. It's an important day today. Every day. It's an important day today. It's an important day today. Seeing KJ was cooking this weekend.

Yes, he was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a good game, man. Got some burn, man. Got some meaningful minutes. So, no, he made the best of it. They got that dub, most importantly. Over the Pistons beat. Yeah.

I'm... Yeah. Yeah, we gotta talk about the elephant in the room, though, Gil. Whoo! That's hilarious. I understand. I don't know. He said that shit. in the room though, Gil. That's hilarious. I understand. You crazy ass.

Oh, man, that's crazy. But, Gil, we got to talk about Giants jersey in L.A. What's going on? Giants jersey in L.A.? What you doing? It's not... It say Barry. This is Barry Potter.

Oh, all right, all right, all right. All right, all right. That's Barry. Okay, okay. It's not Just say Barry your boss in the back Very boss that ain't a too. That's a classic. Like the Chicago Bulls jersey. Hey, Chicago Bulls, that's just Jordan's jersey, man. It's really short. Layer 24. But this is Gills Arena presented by Underdog.

As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What up, what up? We got the man they call Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants. Back on the couch. There it is. There it is. And on this side, we got the legend, Kanyan Martin, back here with us. Give him a hand. We got you a sound effect, Kanyan! What the fuck was that?

You got to play it again. Play it again. You got to play it again. You got to hear it. Oh, please. We got you, Kanyan! You got to play it again. Oh. We got you, man! You gotta play it. Okay, yeah. What's up, Greg?

What's up, Dirty? What's up, Stanley? Stanley? Granddaddy? What's up? Okay, before we start the show, we have to know, did you listen to Kendrick yet? I've been song by song.

Yeah, I've been... Yes. God is good. God is good. You know he old. You know he old. I got two of them out of there. You got two of them?

I got two of them out of there. Add it to the playlist? Mm-hmm. I put it right in the playlist. It shouldn't take you out of this room. I was still stuck on the... There's a lot of stuff to talk about. I was still stuck on the... I was still stuck on the... I was still stuck on the... I was still stuck onhmm. I put it right on the playlist. It shouldn't take you out of this room.

I was still stuck on the... There's a lot of stuff to talk about. I was still stuck on the whole euphoria, dawg. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry, man. You were stuck on that. I'm still enjoying this. I'm still enjoying this.

I'm still enjoying the battle, man. Like, it just happened. It's a lot in there. It's a lot going on. A lot going on. Reliving it every Year I just told like I don't I don't like I don't really choose the same day I buy them like I'm I said on stuff. I don't like

This is exciting. I got throw them shits on in the store. Yes. I'm walking with some shit I'm walking out the store with you. So Joe was back in the bar. Oh, yeah They got to see me walk out with these. Must be a Carolina thing. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, let me get these sheets dirty before I get to the car. Uh-huh. I already scuffed. See, me, I said, I'm just, like, I'm just not a, like,

I ain't saying that people, everybody a hype, but I'm just not, like, just not going to get there because everybody doing it, I'm just not going to rush to go do it. That's how you get shot, right? What's that noise? Pow! Yeah, gunfire. That noise. What's that noise? Y'all go investigate first.

Yeah, like, y'all run. I ain't going to run. I'm going to look first. Like, yeah, that's just, yeah, that's me. I just, I'm going to observe first, and then I'ma... What have you observed? Y'all run that way, I'ma run that way. What have you seen so far? It's...

Not as far as the music. Observing the chaos around the music. Uh-oh. It's too much. Too much. Around this CD? Yeah, it's too much. The chaos around the CD Well, that was wrong. Is it no it just a lot of breakdown. So when yeah, it's a lot of breakdown

Subliminals, you know you everywhere you look everybody from from when the snippets was just when the first day it was out Yeah, right Before I knew the album was out. Before I even knew the album was out, people had already broke songs down, the meaning of songs already. How? When did y'all take the time? It just dropped on Friday. Y'all, Friday evening, y'all done already deciphered what he mean, what he talking about. How y'all got that kind of time already? Do you think, like, a rapper leaks a little bit of deciphering to help?

Yes. It's a treasure map. This is what Kendrick is. The ultimate scavenger hunt, like, coordinator. Let me put this in here in all of these tracks. He did four tracks before he dropped the album. And each one of them tracks are breadcrumbs. The Squabble Up song, Broccoli.

Nigga, he put that snippet out during the beef. On the Not Like Us music video, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. He snippeted it. So now y'all think about this album is nothing but a small version of a deluxe that he's about to drop again. He's just giving people what they want

because they've been asking, where KJ at? Where the album at? I know he got something. Shit, wait till what's next. Uh-oh, well we will. I can wait. I'm just listening to Squabble Up. TV off. TV off.

Yeah. What's up, Bill? I'll find a third song in about a month. Reincarnate it, man. Reincarnate it, man. I got this. I'm like beats. So the beat catch me first.

I don't want to hear your lyrics. Give me the beats first. See, I'm a lyrical guy. Oh, you're a lyrical guy. I'm a lyrical guy. You from that side. Yeah, I'm a lyrical guy. That's why it got to be a certain volume for me to...

So I've been in the car with the kids a lot over the... So I just can't listen to it. Right, okay. When I'm in the car by myself, I'm listening to it a certain volume, and I like to listen, like to repeat the song and listen to it again. Or I got my headphones on, and I got to be playing at a certain volume. Yeah, you're going to like it. Yeah.

I think you're going to like it. I've been dabbling, but it's... Like I just said, I just ain't in no hurry to rush through it. Okay, well, we will get... All the rest of them, he's put out good music, so I'm not doubting that this is one of them from him. He can rap. We will get in-progress reports as you keep listening to more.

No, you will not. But we got a lot to discuss. We're not talking about this again with me. Okay, well, damn. I'm not discussing this album with you in words. I'm going to talk about my game. We're going to talk about this again. When you leave, I'll be talking again.

See, just like that. But we got a lot to get into. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. James Harden has been holding it down without Kawhi this season, but has the Beard style of play been more influential than Steph Curry's for young hoopers? The Wizards suffered through a no-win November after losing all 14 of their games. Are they on the clock to break the Pistons' record losing streak from last season? They looking sad out there.

Damn. Who is that? And the Cavs got revenge on the Celtics Sunday, but does anybody want smoke with the Celtics starting five win healthy? But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead and download the app. Use promo code GILL.

Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. As for tonight, GILL has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let's take a look. Okay Gil you got provocative with this one mix of NFL and NBA on this pick'em injury pick'em entry you got Courtland Sutton higher 49.5 receiving yards. Uh-huh. Okay Jason Tatum lower 2.5 first quarter rebounds they're playing the Heat. I don't know. Jalen Johnson, lower 11.5 rebounds. They're playing the Pelicans. Zachary Isache, higher 14.5 points, rebounds, and assists.

And Bo Nix, higher 219.5 passing yards. So, got to know, what's the reasoning behind the Tatum lower 2.5 first quarter rebound. Against Miami Heat? They're gonna keep them around the three-point line. They don't really shoot a many threes. And getting three rebounds in the quarter. With Porzingis out there too. And they shoot a lot of jumpers.

A lot of jumpers. Just easy three rebounds. Who, Tatum? Tatum's shooting a lot lot of three. Oh, they're both teams. This is two shoot. It's a shooting game. Damn. Ain't no drivers out there. And three rebounds in the first quarter. Ten shots in the first three minutes. Somebody got to get them boards. Mm-hmm. He averaging, what, ten?

Yeah. Let me stick with my under on that one. You're going to have to. He got no choice. And what was the thought process with the football and basketball, Nick? You know, I thought you only watched the Rams. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good question. White man named Bo.

Okay. All right. Fair. That's fair. I mean... Without no history of him. Bo. Oh. He's Caucasian, dawg, with the name Bo. I cannot... As soon as I see this, Bo.

Shit, let me go ahead and take Bo for the high end, because he's still a white... That mean Bo can go? Bo can go. Bo knows up. Bo can go. Bo knows how to pass that ball. They let you pick Bo? They let him pick Bo. They let him pick Bo.

Hey, no one don't let you. That's why I'm looking. I'm like, Bo? 219, 2? Wait, you normally can't pick the quarterback and the receiver on the same team. Yeah? Yeah.

Yeah. Sometimes. Because it's usually, yeah. Usually. Oh, no, I see that. Yeah, it was like Bo passing it to the black man. Cool. Yeah. Sometimes. Because it's usually, yeah, usually. Oh, now I see that. Yeah, it was like Bo passing it to the black man. Cool.

Yeah. Normally they don't. One got to run. One got to pass. Because I stayed trying to pick Pat Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. All day long. Let me get this. I stayed trying to pick.

60 yards? Mark Andrews and Lamar Jackson. Come on, man. What you got to do is you got to pull them out of the pack. So I pulled Bo out of the pack. Right? And then you added one. And then I went regular.

Oh. Okay. All right. Okay. So we asked the chat, are you riding or fading with Gil's picks? 75% said yes. 69% said they are not rolling with your picks. How did you do it too early?

How many people did that? 733. You collected the data too early. Yeah, man. You got to let it. It kicked in about 2,000. 746. Like, the data too early. Yeah, man, you got a little. It'll kick in about 2, 3,000. 746. Like, it'll be 2, 3,000. We still counting votes from California.

So they didn't even get my explanation yet before, you know what I mean? Thanks. Bo knows. I don't know, man. But if you like these picks and want to ride with them, there's a link in the chat that'll take you straight to the app to create your entry.

And as always, we do mostly fans at the end of every show. If you drop a good question in the chat. That'll take you straight to the app to create your entry. And as always, we do mostly fans at the end of every show. If you drop a good question in the chat with your underdog username, we use it on this program, $50 bonus to your underdog account.

If you send us a video at mostlyfansgill at gmail.com and we use that video. Okay, we got Black Santa sitting here. Black Santa. Light-skinned Santa.

Light-skinned Santa. Light-skinned Santa over there. It counts. It counts. And as always, we do this show live on YouTube. But we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. So we got a lot of basketball to discuss.

But we're going to start the show off with some college football and an interesting trend that we saw this weekend. There were several rivalry games with conference championship and college football playoff implications. And things got testy across the country. So we're going to start the Michigan-Ohio State game. Michigan walked into Ohio State's trap, won their fourth straight game against the Buckeyes. After the game, there was an all-out brawl after Michigan players planted multiple flags at midfield to celebrate the upset.

It was getting turnt. Police pulled out the pepper spray, hitting player coaches and media near the melee. Both Michigan and Ohio State were fined 100 racks by the Big Ten for the incident. It also went down to North Cagalacky. After NC State defeated North Carolina, they in your town. They in your trap. And Florida and Florida State got into a brawl as well

after the Gators planted their flag on Bobby Bowden Field. Yeah. Going down, very, very disrespectful, but I got to ask the couch. You letting your rival plant their flag on your home field after beating you? Is this the tradition? I mean, you win the game. You win the game, you stamp your flag. If that's how it goes, that's how it goes.

Everybody tripping. They're tripping. If that's not how it goes, I get it. But if that's how it goes, if y'all beat us and y'all plant y'all flag and we cool, cool. But if everybody acting up... Michigan done it before. No issue. They were posing, taking,

cheesing up, taking flicks. But a lot of people just said it showed them more fight after the game than they did during the game. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. If y'all showed that, if Michigan showed that kind of fight, I mean, Ohio State, if Ohio State showed that kind of fight during the game as the number two team in the country, if you would have had that kind of fight during them 60 minutes,

y'all would have been having to do that. So same thing with Carolina. Same thing with you at home. You're supposed to take care of home. So they came in there and put foot to ass. Thanks. And the chat is pointing out Baker Mayfield back in the day he was Going hard with it. That's why they hate, you know

Trey young when you you can't beat me when I need to be beat and then I throw it in your face You can't be getting mad Beat us. You just lost right? Sheen your ass be going back to the locker room or something to fuck your ass watching us celebrate for. Like, that's weird. Like, what they doing? What they doing? Hey, hey, everybody get the flag, y'all.

Everybody put the flag up. Come on, come on. Get y'all sorry asses back to the locker room. Y'all got a speech to talk about how we just tricked off our season. How we just tricked it off. Like, well, you still can get in,

but still, though, you want to better yourself. So now you got a harder game. Yep. Right? Playoffs, thing. So now you got a harder game first. Because you're going to drop. Going to drop.

Right? You're going to drop, so... Take your L, man. Take your L. Yeah, you should have showed up. It just makes no sense. Like, the winning team is celebrating. That's what they do.

They're going to try to pull the shit down. They're going to run on the field, right? They're going to mess with you. That's what they do. That's at home. If they upset you at home, what's going to happen? All the fans, like, you already know this. So what is the point of even even getting upset it's a flag

in the middle of paint and grass that has nothing to do with you it was there before you got there god damn it it's gonna be there after so you're gonna you're gonna risk your scholarship you're gonna risk your scholarship on some shit that got nothing to do with you pride your pride tells you that I need to fight you Because you wanted a point put some in some grass that has done do me right is the devil Yeah, shoulda shoulda amen a time practice come tomorrow wherever hold that was somebody gonna fix it ain't got shit do me X Whoever started to fight man, they asked me to be grounded or something. Pfft. They good, man. They team got, yeah, 100,000 for the schools.

That's slapping real good. Oh, that was the fine? 100,000? For the Michigan, Ohio State, each school was fined 100,000 for their role in the melee. The other thing, too, police out there pepper spraying. Pepper spraying. Yeah, I'm not getting pepper sprayed. Man, y'all, that's what I'm saying. It just makes no sense. Let it go.

No, the players feel good, because they didn't get fined. Ain't nothing coming out of my pocket. You ain't paying me. I ain't got to pay nothing. Oh, the men I.L.s, we're going to catch them. We're going to hit the men I.L. pockets. Got pepper spray. They said, coaches and parents and whoever's out there. Yeah, whoever. If you was in the line of fire,

you was getting cut. Just blowing in the air out there, dog. Yeah, yeah. I been not seeing no, there been not be no coaches out there trying to throw blows. Like, no. They was throwing your answer. You supposed to throw like... This is your scouting report, coach.

Get up there and help him hold that flag. I just got nodded on my head because it's your scouting report. So, 10 points at home? Mm. Only 10? Yeah, it was 13-10. Finals, 13-10. That's Big Ten, though.

Big Ten football. But still, though, you had the crib as the number two team in the country. You got to throw out. You got to come... Man, because Michigan been struggling this year. Michigan ain't... No quarterback. Right?

No quarterback. They just run. Right. Who? Michigan. And Edwards ain't panning out to be who he's supposed to be, so. See. It's tough.

How? Exactly. You got eight and nine in the box every time. Throw it, please. We're going to play these guys man to man. We could. Beat us one on one, because we know he can't get it there. Period.

Right? So we asked the chat, are you a fan of rivals planting flags after a big win? 78% said yes. Look, if we walk in your trap, take over your trap, we do it. We want in your trap. It's our trap now. It is our trap now. You got a whole game to fight.

Plant this flag. Fight for it to not happen. Yes. Yes. The worst is when it's turf, though, and you can't plant it in. You just go. You don't want to do it. Just turf.

Turf your shit up. Yeah. Lay on the ground. Do a snow angel. Do something. Do a little happy dance in the middle of the goddamn logo. What I give for? So, bring me to my next question. What's the most disrespectful thing an opposing team or player did to you in the game?

If you could think back, it could be at any point in your... No disrespect shot ever? They were humble? I just never give him opportunity to be disrespectful try not to give him an opportunity i guess the most disrespectful thing for basketball is when you get your ass whooped so bad they put that dude in they put that one dude in the game that don't supposed to be in the game, he's never played in the game. Give him the ball. And then he gets the ball and scores. Oh, my God.

On you. On you. And you looking around. Right here. They all there celebrating like he won a championship. He got two points for the season. Yeah, that's the most disrespectful right there. You want to...

Having been in that position, those two points mean a lot. I know. I know. Your family watching, the work watching. Well, worse than that is if the coach, if the guy checks in the game and you're guarding him and the coach says, all right, run it. Run it for him. What?

Yeah, run it. Run it. Run it for him. Get it, shoot it, score it. Run it again. And then they say, run it again. And then they say run it again. And the NBA is the NBA player, so you're cool. That high school joint. That high school joint.

He's really bad. He's really bad. Like, if you don't take the ball from him. Yeah, no. It gets bad to the point where probably special ed. Yes. Yeah, yeah. He's been the ball boy for all four years.

He calls him the player. Senior night. Yeah, they didn't put his ass in. And that motherfucker caught fire. Got the shorts on backwards. He ain't even got the shorts on the right way. Oh, shit. No, that's nuts.

That's nuts. The crowd going nuts. Hey, everybody on the floor. That's the one. That's the one. The referee done took a break in. Yeah, that's the one. You don't want that shit.

Like, we were ready to go. The whole crowd screaming his name to get the ball. That's the one you don't want. Yeah, that's the one you don't want right there. Like, we ready to go? The whole crowd screaming his name to get the ball. Everybody looking. They saying triple quadruple screams. It gets boom, boom, boom, boom. Damn! Josiah, Josiah. Sean, we supposed to be on the same team.

I didn't have nobody else staying the same. You could've stayed the same. I didn't have nobody else to stay the same. You could it, K.J. I didn't have nobody else say it. You could have said it, K.J. I'm trying to include you here. No, I don't want your inclusion. It's supposed to be holiday season. My bad, my bad.

Somebody get in a coma and they're stuck. My bad. I see what's going on. I just saw this clip recently. It might have been a high school game or a small college game. I think it was a high school game. The kid missed the free throw and everybody said, oh, shit, sorry ass bitch. Oh, I think I see your ass. Yo, dawg.

Hey, listen, man. I died laughing. Died laughing. I'm like, could you imagine being at the kid at the parent of that kid at the game dog? Some of them high school crowds be wrong. Oh, yeah, they Was going to roll. Oh, yeah, they was to be on with it They yeah Yes

It's hilarious. they creative with it. Are they creative? For sure. Are they very creative? Like how you get all 50 of them to say it at the same time? It usually be like the football team. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They was deep with it.

That shit was so funny to me, man. For sure. Well, let's keep this thing moving. I got to talk some basketball now. So after winning the hardest NBA Cup championship in league history last season, the Lakers are trying to defend their title. Things were looking good with the 2-0 start in group play, but they took a turn for the worst.

Last two group play games with Lakers getting smacked by the Suns in a 27-point blowout road loss Tuesday, followed by a loss to the top seeded Thunder at home on Friday, which effectively eliminated them from advancing to the knockout round. Unfortunately, they will not get to defend that NBA Cup title. What? I know, Gil. Who set our schedule?

Adam Silver. It's a tough time. Utah first and get the easy wins. So, Lakers got a win at the Spurs in between those losses, and we're in Utah Sunday looking to get back on the right track. So after four straight games scoring under 20 points with the purple and gold going 1-3 in those games, LeBron got his groove back, finishing with 27 points,

14 dimes and five rebounds going 12-28 from the field. But Brown was 0-9 for three in the game and is 0-15 from deep in his last three games since tying Kyle Corbin for seventh most made threes in league history. So AD led the Lakers with 33 points along with 11 rebounds and two steals. He was 13 for 25 from the field. 2 for 4 from 3. Laurie Markkinen led the Jazz with 22.7 boards.

John Collins had 21 and 9. And Colin Sexton finished with 15 and four. So this thing was back and forth. Oh, no. Back and forth. But Rashad, winners prevail. Easy. Ron a little, you know, a little shaky in the fourth quarter.

We'll just say that. Don't doubt. But came through and it mattered. We ain't doing that these days. Relax. But got to talk about yeah talk about one of the biggest moments in the game though so let's get that clip ready of the last play boop so late in the game jazz had a chance to win the game in the final moments. As Collin Sexton tried to put the team on his back, but Will Hardy decided to call a timeout right before what could have been a Sexton game winner. Paulding, we got that clip? Yeah, let's take a look right here.

So you hear the whistle right there. You see Will Hardy sprinting past midcourt. He called a timeout. Timeout. Why would he call a timeout? It ended up being like 2.5 on the clock when they asked for a timeout. Let's see it one more time.

He should be fired. Let's see it one more time. He should be fired right here. Right here. You ain't called it already. What the fuck you calling a timeout for? And you got a- What are you calling timeout for?

You got to advance, right? You can advance it if you was to call it. If he wanted to call it, he could have advanced it. You want to play against a set defense with five seconds on the clock, six seconds on the clock? I don't think so. No. So let's watch it one more time. What you looking for, Gilbert?

Gilbert. Gilbert. Time, six. Now calls it. With two points. Like, yo, bro, what? So, for what it's worth, AD appeared to stop once he heard the whistle and said he would have blocked Sexton's potential game winner anyway.

Probably. The Jazz did have another chance, but the Lakers came up with a huge defensive stop to get the win. After the game, both Will Hardy and Colin Sexton offered their thoughts on the timeout. Obviously the timeout, we like to let people go in that situation. When Colin started, he did a retreat dribble backwards, started calling timeout. It's obviously loud.

The hope would have been to have a few more seconds than 2.1 but um yeah it's tough it could have went either way um at the end of the day he uh coach felt like i was stuck a little bit and he called it but um it's just one of those uh if it goes in good but if it doesn't then i should have called the timeout so I don't blame them at all for calling it I'm just at the end. They switched it up. Especially we weren't able to get a shot off at the end So that's the toughest part So Kyle said he doesn't blame Will Hardy for calling the timeout, but do y'all blame Will Hardy for calling that timeout?

Yes, he with us. Will Hardy assistant coach, okay with the San Antonio Spurs, okay since 2016. We talk about certain players leaving organizations and have learned something from the players before them. Will should have learned something from Pop. He was with Boston the last year, 21, 22, should have learned something from who was there then.

Hey, I'm sure he's supposed to learn something from a bad coach. Yeah, all of them. Learn something, learn to do right, learn to do wrong, right? You at Pop for five years, you supposed to know time and score. That's a bad decision.

So bad to the point where you let the Lakers beat you. You gotta take the Lakers down anytime you got them. Anytime you got them. You can't give them... You don't want to play against that defense with two seconds to go, man. That's a bad timeout. If you...

With six seconds? Yeah, that's questionable, too. You get something off. You get something off, but two? Yeah, I... It could have went... AD said he could have blocked, he could have went in. AD said he could have blocked. He could have went in.

Could have got a shot off. Could have shot a pull. You don't know, but it's a bad timeout. To play against a set defense. Yeah. He said he saw a second retreat dribble. Yeah. So you got to trust your guy in that moment.

Yeah. Right? He retreated for a reason he saw something Mmm now I'm like His initial action when he turned the corner in Hannon. I needed a little more space. I got time Do you think we'll feel like he has something better? Obviously call the timeout so he entr his... He not trusting his guy. I live and die with you doing this in this moment. I'm gonna call a timeout, figure out...

And he did not have something better. They didn't get a shot off, so... Let me see that one more time. One more for Gil. Go all the way back to when they first got the ball, please the three. Go all the way back to when they first got the ball, please. Yeah. Go all the way back to when they first. I want to see how much time is actually on the clock when they first got the ball.

I think eight seconds. Oh, yeah, it's eight seconds. You got to call a timeout. 8.2. Yeah, you got to call a timeout right away. 8.2. Call it right there? Yeah, right away.

And he advanced the ball. If you're going to call it, you got to call it right now. It's eight seconds. Timeout, advance the ball. See, we can't see when he was calling it, but go. We can't, but go. He's calling it right at 2.3, I think, at 2.3 seconds. Go, go, go, go, go.

So he said he was screaming for it. He's watching now. It's five seconds, he's still watching. There's a retreat dribble right here. Retreat. That doesn't matter. Okay. Right now, he calls it.

He was yelling it right there. He said he was screaming it. The refs weren't looking at him. That's why I explained it all the way to half court So it's 2.8 hands up right there 1.7. No means the day when I mean just that angle right there. Yeah, he's gonna get blocked He could get blocked, but you don't get that off the high floor, but he could do whatever he wants Okay, the problem don't shoot a high floor. There's gonna be a goaltend or block or a bucket. All this says is One he don't trust he he probably didn't trust his player to get off a good shot

As a guard, he has the perfect guy on him somebody he can beat to the basket. Yeah, so you have to give him What you don't have no time, but once the switch happened, there's no more timeout. You got to play it. If I was going to call a timeout, I would have called it when he passed half court

and there's two guards right there. He don't have an advantage. But once he started moving and he got the big on him, there's no more timeout. I need to let him do what he's going to do. So imagine this. So would you had called this devil if he had called a timeout in

The backcourt, right? They probably couldn't advance cuz where he called it Mm-hmm But I got the ball because he took a dribble already Right if I can't do if I can't let him get a head start you call the timeout, right? Give it to him and let him get a head start and go down here. That's what I mean Yeah head start. You can call a timeout, right? Give it to him and let him get a head start and go down here. Yeah, nah. If I'm going to get the ball exactly right there,

then I'd rather him just go like that because the defense is not set. Once the timeout comes, all the bigs are going to be in the back. I'm just trying to think of if he were to call a timeout and they would have the ball in the back. As a coach, I mean, it's easy

for us to say, as a coach, is he a left-handed? Does he drive left-handed? You're not thinking about all that. But as I said, is his side moving left? Like if this was Donovan Mitchell, I don't even think about calling a timeout because that's the way he wants to go left so he can do all the step backs and stuff like that. So I don't make that call.

Well, I was about to go there not because of left or right, but because who do I want the ball? Who do I of left or right but because who do I want the ball? Who don't want to have the ball? Who you want the ball? He got he he got the ball in his hand That's what you want to have the ball. No, no, no, no, no. No, that's the thing is is that the case? Who's supposed to had a ball? Who does who you think he wants to have the ball in my who did he draw? So who did he draw the player for with Sexton? Think about it.

You called the play back for the same guy? No, that's crazy. Yeah. Crazy. I'm thinking you called the timeout because you want your star player to have the ball and shoot the ball. And the reason why he didn't have it is because he didn't get the rebound. Yeah, see, one point, like,

because it's all happening so fast, once you let him get past half court, you should just, you got to abort. Because what happens is... That's what he thinks. That's what Kyle Jackson thinks. Yeah, because one point says, even if it's two seconds, right, whatever play you draw up,

he don't have momentum in it. Right? So that means you old school, so you're going to have something where he comes up the lane, then he has to try to turn his body back around to then angle back to the shot. The thing he was going to take right here. Yeah, to do the same shit. So, yeah, it's a bad timeout. If you don't trust him because he was having a bad

game, I always like the player to just go. Unless I have a great out-of-bounds play. I got somebody who got 46-inch verticals so I can just throw this shit by the rim and he's going to do one of those. Yeah, other than that, you know, like if you got Dwight Howard

or some shit, you throw that bitch out-of-bounds right to him sneakily But other than that then just like that. We got the percentages though. Like when you talk about Last second you talk about or who you get a ball to You got Colin sex and moving the way he moving like you said the momentum like you don't Call the timeout and go up against the set offense I'm gonna say defense when you let the defense make a mistake in that position.

Like, I think, like you were saying, Colin coming down, he's trying to figure out where they're going to make a mistake because I got five seconds to get this. I'm not thinking. He's not thinking a timeout's going to be called. No.

He's like, oh, I got a chance. I got a chance to make something happen right now. Let me get to the rim. He ain't even thinking to bail him out, to shoot a jumper. Nah, he's going to. Yeah, he's attacking the rim. So, I mean, I like his mentality. It's just the coach, I don't think the coach wanted him to take that shot.

He could have jumped in the AED and got a five. He could have jumped into it. Rui. He could have stopped. He could have stopped. Rui. Game over. Get it on the glass real quick.

Goal 10. Even if he got it off the glass, whoever 24 is. Kelsler. Yeah, right. That's Kelsler. Yeah. If AD jumps, that's a quick tip back. And 23 going.

But he's not an experienced coach where they've probably been in these situations a lot. I mean, how many situations has he been in it where he's just like, oh, do y'all? As a head coach or assistant head coach Oh, that's not a system that assistant shit don't work So You ain't making no decisions man, you just sit there and take it all a glory That's the problem with the sister coaches you getting glory off the head coach And you get put into the fire, and you don't have no experience your damn self, right?

Let's talk about the other side of this jazz have the fourth worst record in the league right now But are the jazz making their Cooper flag chase a little too obvious? Whoa When you say, like, when you say, like, making it obvious, like, they have a choice. They have a choice. That's like saying, oh, yeah, the Wizards, right? The Wizards look like they tanking. No, they suck.

Right, that's just, this team sucks, that's all. They make sense. There's nothing they can do. They can go out there and play hard 48 minutes, and this might still be the result. It's just one of those teams right now. So they ain't got to worry about tanking. No, they ain't got to tank.

They just got to play basketball. So why do Utah suck so bad? Why? Outside of the fact that it's Utah. Outside of that. Is it obvious? Outside of that. Outside of that. Outside of the fact that it's Utah. Outside of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it obvious? Outside of that. Outside of that.

Outside of that. Like, why can't they get no talent down there? Why can't they? So I'm giving you a reason not to use that. Don't use that. Outside that it's Utah? John Collins, marketing, Clarkson, They all got traded there.

There are reports that the Jazz are looking to move Sexton and Jordan Clarkson. We're gonna get rid of the blacks. That's all three. They only got three. They got three now. They on the chopping block already. Get rid of these niggas. They on the chopping block already. Yeah, get rid of these niggas. That's the problem.

We see what the problem is. Oh, Lord. They thinking about their future. Shit. We thinking about ours. Jim and Fredette, we should have got them. Wrong one. Unserious program.

Unserious program. I need a moment. I need a moment to get this. It's Utah, dawg. Salt Lake City area is my... But it's just you're not getting no free agents, man. Just one of them cities. Nobody's going to sign that out. Yeah, I mean... Just one...

What's the biggest free agent? But nobody has signed... Nobody has signed... Carlos Boozer. Since Carlos Boozer. Since Boozer. Oh, yeah. No one has signed.

Everyone else has been traded or drafted. Yup. And I can guarantee you, nobody got traded. I was like, oh shit. Hell yeah. Like, he thought he was going to be a free agent. He was like, I'm going to sign. I'm going to No one has time. Everyone else has been traded through or drafted. And I can guarantee you, nobody got traded. Oh, shit. Hell, yeah.

Like, damn. So why do you think dudes like Carl played that long as he did? John Stockton played that long as he did? Dude, they couldn't go out and solicit nobody in free agency to be like, you know what? Come fuck with me. Come fuck with us in Utah. Yeah. Huh?

Park City, they got skin. They got musty air. What? Musty air to burn your lungs. Where y'all at? Salt Lake. That's not a good recruiting trip. All right, but let's shift it over to the Lakers.

So, Lakers are 8-1 versus teams below 500 this season. 4-7 against teams at or above 500. Wait, say that again? 8-1 versus teams below 500 this season. Who said that? That's the stat. Huh? What you mean who said that? You know what he doing right now.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know what he doing right now. What you mean who said it? Like, how is that? When are they calculating this? Right now, at this very moment. No, no, that doesn't work. That's just like when Bucks-

At the start of the season. When you say Bucs, and I did the breakdown and said they haven't beat a team over 500, and then it was like, no, they beat all these teams. Not when they beat them. But you did in a certain span. No, I did it when they played them. We're talking about right now.

Yeah, see, but that's what I'm saying. Y'all record is... As of right now, this very moment, Lakers are 8-1 versus teams below 500 this there but they were they 500 when we played them dog Okay, that's what I'm saying. Where they 500 were they below 500 when we beat they ass What they could have been 500 when we played them what if don't be trying to play we beating up on bad teams Yeah, no differences me. It makes a big difference Y'all be your last start 2-0 and I beat you,

and then you go on a four-game skit. That ain't got shit to do with me. Josiah. You was 100% when I beat your ass. Can you please look up y'all wins and losses, please? Yeah! I asked Josiah to do it. I want to spend Rez money.

I want to spend Rez money. Can you cue the music for the music for me, please? All right, so Lakers wins this season. Timberwolves in the season opener. Okay, that's... Smacked him. You might recall, Ronnie locked up Ant-Man for one possession. They below five.

Locked his ass up. They've been below five. Then beat the Suns, then beat the Kings. Suns? Yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Oh, that's preseason. Yeah.

Suns and Kings, then they beat the Raptors. You reading preseason shit, Josiah? No. Regular season. When did the regular season start? Tuesday, October 22nd, Gil. Okay, 22nd. Okay.

So we beat the Wolves. That's a good win. Wolves beat the Suns. The dominant Suns. So when y'all beat the Wolves, what was their record? 0-0. Okay. So that counts.

That counts, yeah. And then the Suns, 1-1. They 50%. Domin the Suns one and one eight fifty percent Beans Said the Kings until losing straight. It was over to it. Whatever so they on this side Beat the Raptors down this side. What was a record? What was a record? Oh, they're on the losing side There's one in five beat a gritty Sixers squad gritty down this side We're sure beat the Raptors Gritty. They're on this side. For sure.

Beat the Raptors again. They're on this side. Grizzlies. They're on this side. Grizzlies was 7-5. At that time? Yeah. You see where I'm getting at, though.

Spurs. 3-4. Pelicans have beaten the Jazz twice and beaten the Spurs twice. Oh, shit. So just... Spurs have a winning record, K. But they didn't when y'all played them. Ah.

You're better. So he want to go when y'all played them. Spurs was 10 and 9 when y'all played. Yeah, which time the first time the last one was the first one they was We played them twice we played them twice I played them twice, Gil. Y'all holding on. Y'all holding on for dear life. Uh, beat them November 15th. They were six and seven. Hey, they on this side. And then beat them November 27th. So we don't know what our record is.

Yes, we don't know what it is. That's neither here nor there. He just, he just did that. No, he just tried to make a scene on below, like, just trying to, you know what I mean? I don't like that. I don't like the way you worded it. Y'all picking on bottom-feeling teams like you always say the other teams doing.

Tough, gritty NBA squad. Top 30 NBA team like Josiah liked to say. Top 30. Top 30. They are in the hunt. It's okay. So, Gil, how much confidence do you have in this Lakers squad after their first 20 games? We're a quarter of the way through the season.

We're 12-8, Rob. Yeah. Yeah way through the season. We're 12-8. Yeah. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. 12-8? Yeah. Shot, I see you holding the bat, shaking your hand in disgust.

We're in a good place. We're about 10, 9, 8. Six seed, you know. One game away from being fifth. Right there. Good spot. Three games out of first place. Easy. Seems like the same score as I was in the last three years. Every there. Good spot. Three games out of first place.

Easy. Seems like the same score as I was in the last three years. Every year. No, we are in the playoffs right now. Absolutely not. We are in the playoffs. Hell no. Oh, I know Darvin over there. Last three years, they've been 8, 9, 10 the last three years.

We were holding down the six box. Seven, they finished seven. Yeah, we finished seven. Right? Yeah, we finished seven. They be like down there, and then they end up finish seventh, and yeah. Everybody's talking about against trash teams.

Well, damn, the whole league is trash, other than like four or five games. Oh, is the whole league trash now? For most of them. Nah, they wasn't trash when we played them. All of a sudden. We sent them to the trash can. We gonna get to the clip.

Huh. What, what do you, what, what, the NBA Cup? Yeah, we gonna get to that clip, or we gonna get to- NBA Club What? The NBA Cup? Yeah, we're going to get to that clip. NBA Cup? It's not important. NBA Cup. It's not a big deal. We're going to get to that. Last year we won the NBA Cup and took a dive.

The inaugural NBA Cup was an important thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's good for y'all. I like it too. I really think it's good for y'all. Who the fuck we need to be in Vegas for? Not to be putting emphasis on this shit right now. The inaugural NBA Cup was very important for the league.

Lakers won that convincingly. Yeah, like, I think it's good. It's not important anymore. Yeah. Huh? It lost value. Nah. Y'all get back to these regulars?

No. Vegas and December? Kobe would have never. Right? We're going to use y'all shit. Kobe would have never. Never lost. Huh?

Yeah, nah. Never what? Kobe would have never. Never lost. Huh? Never what? Never would have lost. Lost what? The end-season tournament. Who wants to play in those ugly courts anyway, Sean? That's me. We would have never lost. Kobe would have never?

Are you serious? Yeah. About, it doesn't matter. You know what Kobe's teams look like the last four years of his career? You know what LeBron's teams look like right now? You know what he looks like right now? You know what I'm saying? He didn't make the playoffs.

Are y'all forgetting that he was in the league the last four years? They didn't make the playoffs. Y'all just pretend that that didn't happen. Are we activating that? Yeah, he would never lose. Yeah, because they never got there. They never got to the playoffs again. Are we going to activate? Never lose. Yeah, because they never got there. They never got to the playoffs again. You remember when we watched them play 60?

That was the last game. That was regular season. There was not seven more games after that. That's all I'm saying. We're going to activate this? No, I'm just saying I don't know why we keep doing this. Oh, because we thought you was a Kobe fan, but now we realize that you're not. No, it's just realistic.

We've realized. No, I'm not going to be delusional. We're not. No, it's just realistic. We've realized. No, I'm not going to be delusional. We have realized. No, I'm just not going to be delusional. That Kobe has been gone. Somebody has switched ships. No, I'm just not going to be. I'm not delusional.

So, you were delusional when he was here. He was saying he was the best. Now you're not delusional, and you're saying something different. Well, both things can exist at the same time. Which is what? That he is a bad motherfucker, was a bad motherfucker, and forever going to be a bad motherfucker.

And... I promote that 100%. And that they didn't get in the playoffs last week. Like he's acting like, they ain't been in the playoffs since 2012. What was the reason? When did he retire? What was the reason? 2016. Bad team. Or Achilles? reason? 2016. Bad team. Or Achilles.

Just bad team. Bad team? Achilles. Surrounding Cass. Achilles don't have any. He goes on to record 40,000 points. OK. He goes on to do that.

But we don't know. All we can just say is that when you when we use words that says this wouldn't never happen under him we you know that this his career is over it so we can so I remember when Shaq left remember those team but all we see is what's happening right now but I'm saying body else but I'm saying but you don't want to say that you want to go back and say Kobe but we talking about this dude right now but nobody's, but you mentioned- What are we saying right now? We're talking about somebody saying, though, it's not important.

It is. But you're saying that- Oh, the NBA Cup is important now? No, you said it wouldn't have happened under. He would have never lost. Yeah, because we don't know. It's a hypothetical. So we're not going to go into hypotheticals.

Remember, you don't like that. But you did- So we're going to talk about reality. I said we're not going to go into it. I brought it up. I brought it up. You're not going to go into it. So you don't want to bring it up? Okay, so we're going to go back to. I said we're not going to go into it. I brought it up. I brought it up. You're not going to go into it. So you don't want to bring it up.

Okay, so we're going to go back to reality. Yeah, back to reality. Back to reality. Y'all got y'all ass whooped. That's reality. Okay. Sit your ass down and watch the rest of the games. Comfortably.

Thank you. As we read you. So what's reality now? Y'all want to get to the next question? Is the NBA Cup important to you now that the Lakers are coming? What's important now that the Lakers are coming? What's so important who holds up that championship is not the Lakers. I think it's good for y'all, though.

You think it's good to not have to go to Vegas in December? Yeah, just concentrate on, like... Because y'all did after y'all won it last year. Y'all fell off a cliff. We were in two, like, 13. Like, bad y'all did after y'all won it last year. Y'all fell off a cliff. We were two, like, 13. Like, bad, bro. Unfortunate event. So, therefore, I think just y'all in 12 and 8 right now,

let December, y'all can, let's, yeah. Somebody's like, why aren't y'all talking about Darvin? I mean, JJ, the way you did Darvin. I was like, we didn't talk about Darvin bad until after we won the chip, got our hopes up, and then it went 2 for 13. That was it. The doors fell off. Yeah, the doors, yeah.

That wasn't Darvin, though. That was everybody drunk off the championship brew. Darvin. Y'all all drunk like y'all won a real championship, and Darvin was like, hey, let's get back to business. It was real. Let's get back to business. Very real real. Let's get back to business. Very real champion. There was a trophy, Rashad.

There was an in-app presentation. Chokies had real champagne. It was a real fall-off, too. It was a real fall-off. Yeah, yeah. Usually when you win championships, you don't got to come back to work. Right.

You know? Kind of fucked us up a little bit. That's what it was. They was drunk. They was drunk. It literally took a month off, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, that's that championship celebration? The whole month It literally took a month off, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that championship celebration?

The whole month. Hard as like a motherfucker, right? Imagine J.R. Smith winning the championship in midseason. They'd be like, yo, J.R., we got a game in two days. Wait, what? I still got my shirt off. I ain't put my shirt off for another 30 days. Let's talk a little bit about Bron. So Bron's appeared in all 20 games this season.

He's averaging 23 points, 9 assists, 8 rebounds on 49, 36, 76 shooting splits while playing 35 minutes per game, which is second most on the team behind AD. So how would you grade your 22, LeBron, so far this season? Like I mentioned before, he was coming off that stretch of sub-20-point games. The Lakers were 1-3 at that point. Has said that he wants to try to play all 82 games this season. Like I mentioned before, he was coming off that stretch of sub-20 point games. The Lakers were 1-3 at that point. Has said that he wants to try to play all 82 games this season. Gil has released the smoke. Shot is given to LeBron. But I can only deem it a sarcastic. No, why would you do that? Because it looks like you're fresh. You're setting it up. And you tried to clown me earlier, so I'm just telling you, we're not here.

We're not here no more. No, I'm just kidding. But it's looked shaky time. Like, watching that Jazz game, like I mentioned, I think Brown was 0 for 9 from 3. Even me at points was like, yo, get off the rock. Like, this is what I'm saying. AD had, what, 31, 33 at that point. Only scored two points in the fourth quarter.

We've seen this before. We've seen this before. We're going to talk about that in a second. We've seen this before. We can't stop this. We got to stop this trend, Anthony Davis, dog. Yeah. We got to stop this trend, bro.

We have to. Like, we're going to talk to you directly. You got to stop this trend, AD, dog. You're too good. You're too good, bro. Nah, man. Like, you're too important. 31 in the first three quarters.

Yes. Two points in the fourth quarter. Yeah, that's unacceptable. Two shot attempts. I don't know if it's coaching, if it's you, if it's team, whoever it is, bro,

you the man on the team, dog. The dude 40. The dude 40, man. You can't have two points in the fourth quarter, man. Nah. Like, that's last, like, we talked, like, this has been a theme. Yeah.

An ongoing theme. You can't do that, dawg. See, this is when you- How many shots did he get? This is when you need to be a stat chaser. Like, I got 31, I need 40. 45. I need 40, then when I get to 40, I need 45. Go get it. Go get it.

When I get to 50, like, that doesn't kick in. There's no way I'm going to have 31 in three quarters and then I only take two shots in the fourth unless I'm just sitting on the bench. Right. I'm going for the 4-0. I think you play seven or eight minutes in that fourth quarter. That's the momentum. That's the momentum as a scorer. Like, you don't just stop at three quarters and be like, yeah, I'm good.

And nah. Yeah, that's it. That's it right there. So this is... Can you know? How many minutes did he play? How many minutes did he play in the fourth quarter? About seven minutes, I think.

So two shots in seven minutes. Two shots in seven minutes. Is that a him thing? But so it's both things. It's a, whoever played thing. Whoever coached it, whoever played thing.

Yes, yes. To be honest. Yes. Right? You're supposed to be your best, are you? But we,

but it's happened under every coach. Yes. Yes. That's what I was saying about Darwin. It's a, so therefore,

that says everybody's included, right? Yes, it is. It's, talk about it, man, right? Yes, it is. It's... Talk about it, man. You got to talk about it. It's the people that's on the... I'm going to start with the people that's calling the plays, right?

Who's that? Absolute head coaches. Right now, it's J.J. Rating. Before it was Darv, before it was... Vogel. Vogel. So it's been a... Right?

But right now, J.J., are a new coach, first year situation, trying to establish yourself as a good coach in this league, right? And at one of the most, if not the most high-profile job in the game. Yep. You got a 40-year-oldile job in the game. Yep. You got a 40-year-old guy that'll be 40 this month. Very soon. Which is a great day, by the way. Mm-hmm.

And Anthony Davis has been doing what he's supposed to so far this season. Stepping up to the plate, as we can see, averaging 30 and 11, which is... Crazy. Great numbers. Very good numbers. For him, crazy. So, J.J., this is your opportunity to really put this team in his lap. Absolutely.

For him to take over because the guy's 40. This is your opportunity right here. You can't allow that for this man to take two shots in the fourth quarter. You did TV last year some of these games

in the playoffs where he only took two shots. And you talked about this on the air. Get him. So how can you be in this current situation and not adjust

and adapt to it? Hold on. Time out. Hold on. We're adapt to it. And hold on, timeout. Hold on. We're going to call. Hold on. Throw him the ball. Right now. Throw him the ball.

Hey, we running turn five, turn four, drop this, swing this, drop whatever to get number three to basketball, man. This is what J.J. Reddick should be saying during the timeout. Absolutely. Right? IQ, Bron, you on the floor with him. You on the floor with him. You got to go to him. This is, now, Big Phelan ain't got no shot in a minute.

Now, Big, he's supposed to be this cerebral guy, right? Remember, play by play, he can run it back to you. Time, score, situation, who didn't shoot it, who packed. This is your opportunity right now to know that the big fella ain't got no shots. Anthony Davis, you got to speak up. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, yo. Hey, man, during the timeout. Hey, so be nice to touch that motherfucker man

Bring it this way, right? Hey, hey Walk by JJ and when they and they look be the last one to the bench walk by me Hey, I ain't touching in a minute You ain't gotta put no names on it. Just say it in the coaches or to walk by keep going Do you need to put names on it though? No, you don't you just say it to the coaches, let them walk by, keep going. Do you need to put names on it, though? No, you don't. You just say it to the group of coaches. Or how about one of them 17 assistant coaches you got that you paying over there? Hey, you know, J.J., stats sheet, they jotting the possessions. They watching it.

So let me give you an interesting fact that I found. In the Lakers' last five games, A., AD scored a total of six points in the fourth quarter in 29 minutes of action. That includes some blowouts, but 29 minutes worth of fourth quarter basketball, six points, seven total shots, leaving three for seven. I ain't got nothing else to say.

I ain't got nothing else to say. I'm looking at, he came in in the 7-22 mark. Everybody was hitting shots. Once LeBron missed his first shot. Once LeBron missed his first shot, or Rui took a shot and LeBron missed, that's when I would ask him for the ball. So the real, real opportunity would have been around the four-minute mark where you miss, you miss, come on.

Because when he comes in the game, LeBron's on fire. But around the four-minute mark is when LeBron missed and then Rui took a three. That's when our next possession said, yo, come on down here. See, I don't know. See, the problem is, somebody like Anthony Davis, I don't know if I'm sitting him

all the way to the seven-minute mark. No, you can't. That's horrible. Like, I'm not sitting him. It is. If LeBron's out, he's playing. Like, I'd rather him start off the quarter and we're just feeding him. if LeBron's out he's playing like he's like I'd rather him start off

the quarter and we're just feeding him especially if you got the hot hand like I said 31 in the first three quarters like I don't like you're sitting five minutes

he's cold the game is going it's easy for him to be like is he for the blend in he playing 36 and a half a night yeah close to 36

36 a night it's easy for him to blend in. You playing 36 and a half a night? Yeah, about close to 36. 36 a night? It's easy for him to blend in. Like, I don't know, we up? It's easy to convince yourself, right? Like, we're up. Everybody's doing good.

I just came in. Let me go up and down a little bit and just be there. And he had 16, I believe, in that third quarter once they played

the whole third. Why'd he come out? Yes. Start the fourth quarter. Do you ride that on? Yeah, absolutely. You got 16 in the third. Play the first three quarters and just keep feeding them?

Put him back in the seven-minute mark. And then put him back in the seven-minute mark. You still put him back in the seven-minute mark. Let him play three minutes, two minutes, two and a half minutes. Take him out. Put him back in the seven-minute mark. He got it going. Y'all don't see the writing on the wall?

This LeBron last year, man, so all that... Cap. This is last year. No. All that shit y'all saying, man, it feel good to the average fan and want to see that type of shit happen, but until LeBron actually step out of the way, you're not gonna see none of that. Well, then then he shouldn't be then he can't say he's a star player

You can't be can't say you're a star player if It ain't even got nothing to do with LeBron. You're letting Rui. You're letting Gabe Vincent. You can't bully them I mean, you can't bully them? I mean, hey. You can't bully them? Hey, bring that shit over. You can't do that? Kevin Love couldn't do it. Chris Bosh couldn't do it.

Now you got AD. You couldn't bully the people that don't like, like. You living in the shadows. So Rui can take two threes, chuck him for 20. So it was never going to be their team, Chris Bosh or Kevin Love. It was never going to be their team. Because he's on the team. But you had Kyrie when Kevin Love was there in Cleveland, right? Then you had Dwayne Wade there in Miami. So it was never going to be for them to be in a situation to be Anthony

Davis. Because LeBron is there. Yeah, but they was never going to be in a situation. Look, there's another guy there already. I get it. There's another guy there. Yeah, as you said, for the three. Kyrie was there.

So for me right now. And then Dwayne Wade was there. LeBron. There's no reason. Yeah, as you say, let's for the Kyrie was there. So for me, Dwayne Wade was there There's no reason he shouldn't be if we don't give him his flower It's like we're not giving him enough flowers for him to just kind of like want to walk away Like we gotta we gotta go we gotta bring more flowers cuz it's like to me is hindering the game the stats the praise, like we get it and I'm going to give you flowers because you've done so much for the game. You can't take away the energy he's put in, the hard work he's put in,

the blood, sweat, and tears. You can't defy the gravity that he's passed all these greats and he's done all this stuff for the game. You cannot ignore that stuff. But what we're seeing now is a diminishing of the game because a great player will not step aside so other players can be great. That's not how it works. I know. That's not how it works. I'm sorry.

That's not how it works. You're telling me. That's how it's working right now. No, you're telling me. A 40-year-old is taking 28 shots on my team and I only got to shoot the ball two times in the fourth and you're telling me that that's the way it goes?

I'm just saying, if you want me to take the range and you're taking 28 shots at 40 and I'm taking two in the fourth, I don't want to hear nothing else come out of nobody's mouth except for move the fuck around. But 28 in the... But 28, 25...

Yeah, he took 25 shots. He took 25 shots. I'm supposed to take 35. You should. Why am I not? Why did you take 25? Because you took them. You took 25.

Six-game stretch. Yes. Five games. Five games. Six points in 29 minutes. Six points. Seven field goals. Two of them was last night.

And you said a couple of them was blowouts what they were getting blown out so so they got blown out by the sun and then uh 29 minutes of work for six points it'd be the spurs still close can we just one and one it was a blowout that he said that they were down and there was a blowout when he were upped after his so he played the fourth quarter of all them fucking played fourth quarter all those games had a couple of zero point fourth quarters in that in that five game mix as well and sometimes we just gotta say that some people just don't want to be the bad guy what's the bad guy the bad guy the bad guy like we like maybe he don't want to be responsible for losing games. Maybe he can't take the pressure of dropping this game.

Like, I'd rather let the 40-year-old do it because I don't want the responsibility. If we lose, Laker Nation's going to be on me. You don't have a choice. I do. No, you don't. I let him do it. You don't.

Let him do it. No. When he leaves, you don't have a choice? No, but he's still here, though. But he's still here. So why would you not practice now? I don't he leaves, you don't have a choice? No, but he's still here though. But he's still here. So as long as he's still here. Why would you not practice now? Because I don't want to.

Practice. I don't want to. Practice. Practice. I don't want to. Practice. Practice. I don't want to.

Practice. Practice. Because you're not going to be ready when he leaves then. You don't want to practice now and you're not ready now. How you going to be ready when he leaves? Maybe it's just you don't want it. It ain't in him. It ain't.

Maybe he's for Elvin. You're telling me I can. Maybe he's for El Robbins. You're telling me I can take 25 shots during the game with you. I'm contributing this to AD not wanting to take shots. No. In comparison to. To being the guy. Y'all don't get this dude off the court so I can shoot the ball. No, being the guy. I am the guy.

No, you a guy. I am the guy. I am the guy. He refuses to get out the way. Why does it have to do with him? Yeah, because he's 40 He's not he has no input like he was 40 when I had the first 25 shots Which means I took 23 shots in in three quarters He was 40 then and I got my shots then he LeBronves start. Huh? The Austin Reeves start.

The Austin Reeves start in the game. No, I don't think. No, he did. He aged during the game. Gabe Vincent, Dog Connect. Was it the game? No Reeves, no D-Lo. No Reeves, no D-Lo.

Lil D-Lo. No Reeves, no D-Lo, LeBron, Rui, and AD. Win. Shoot. Ronnie was not available with the left hand injury as well. LeBron, Rui, and AD. When? Bronny was not available with the left-hander as well. So you mean to tell me AD got to ask for permission? That's the problem. He got to ask for permission for the 40-year-old dude to give me the ball in the fourth quarter?

Why is LeBron not the point guard that you say he is to say give him the ball every time? It don't got to come from the coach no more. I'm LeBron. I run the show here. If this my ship, AD gotta touch the ball eight times in the fourth every fourth. So JJ, you gonna have to take the blame for this.

So LeBron took, since AD wasn't in the game, LeBron took one, two, three, four shots. To start the fourth. He took four shots before AD got in. So that means AD was shooting more shots than LeBron James. Hmm. 28. Yeah, so... 13 for 28. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, four of those, AD ain't in the game. In the fourth. Yeah. 40 years old. So, no, no. LeBron did have 14 assists in the game. Now we got to figure out... To start the game off...

Okay, so... Let's see. Rui took him a three. Right? The neck got him a shot. Okay, Rui took him another three. Okay, this... Okay, he took this.

So LeBron... Shit, LeBron didn't get a shot to the first three minutes of the game. In the fourth. Max, he chucked him a three up there. Right? Let me see. the first three minutes of the game in the fourth maxie chucked him a three up there right uh let me see oh lebron got him a little three on up in there right i mean everybody's everybody's shooting that's the problem everybody everybody's shooting in the fourth yeah except for ad yeah so how does that how does that make so we got ass we got ass a a fellas

Hey, Rui See you in a fourth quarter. Why you don't like passing 80 the ball when we swing you why you want to shoot and I? Give it 80 like That's the thing. I think LeBron said it. Hey motherfucker I'm open swing swing Or if you ask where that should be, I looked at me when looking at me. Like, LeBron said it, right? Swing, swing. Like, AD might have to say the same shit.

Swing, swing. When LeBron give it to you, that don't mean shoot it one moment. I'm open. Yeah, we know you're trying to get LeBron assist, but... Like, I mean, you're supposed to be a star in this league, and you're telling me you can't demand the ball. Like, okay, you can't demand it from LeBron, but other players get the ball too cuz they taking shots so you saying when Christy get out there you

can't say bitch give me the ball huh Rui um you got Gabe Vincent you can't say hey pick and roll pick and roll little motherfucker let's go like you come on pick and pop and if you don't throw this bitch back. Ha! Oh, he mean. Oh, he's so mean to me. He talk so mean. You know the sensitive-ass NBA now?

AD, he's such a mean leader. He yells and curses at me and tells me to pass it to him. It's a punk-ass league. So AD can't even say shit to the dudes that he want to say it to because he gonna run to Rob and be like, hey man, bully me, man. You think Gabe

Vincent's gonna run to Rob? I don't know. He can't run to his Instagram account and we gonna listen to him. Drake ran to the lawyers. Who? That's Drake. Yeah. This is Gabe.

This is Gabe. Gabe. Listen. He running to somebody. If he don't show up the next game, trust me, he won't even get fined. You only play six guys. You need him.

No, we don't. Yes, you do. No, we don't. You do. Who you gonna play in front of us? Tell him. Who else you got? Huh?

Who else you got? I'll wait. Okay, he did good last night. Okay, he did good. Who is this? So, AD is second overall this season in most fourth-quarter field goal attempts for the Lakers. Who the fuck is R. Mel? Huh? Yes, that should be. What? You said he's second? I said LeBron first, AD second, Austin should be. What? You said he's second? I said LeBron first, AD second, Austin Reed first.

He should be first. He should be first. He should be first. But he's not. That's my point. No, no. What are the numbers? Move aside.

You have no reason to still be here. What are the numbers? What is the shooting between the first three quarters? I guarantee you AD's blowing him out if he's only taking one or two shots in the fourth quarter. So if you put it in the first three quarters when they both are playing, what is their shots up? That's how you got to do it.

Because we know one is disappearing in the fourth. Do we ask the question, AD, do you want to take more shots in the fourth? That's the question because you can't say AD disappears and AD says, hey man man the bar just never find me Never fight. I mean shit if it has him took more shots than he did He's like the fifth option in the fourth quarter on the team. It's a fourth quarter field goal attempts LeBron 97 ad

60 what? Is No This is Second and third place 80 60 awesome Reeves third place 54 Lady leading the team of film Bitch I got a billboard Several billboards throughout the greater. Life. They call me the Caucas area. They call me the Caucasian. They call me the Caucasian Jordan. Damn!

Six less shots? Eh. An 80? Yeah. Six less? Because if you take away the 30 more that's in front of me, we don't need... he's nowhere near me. Two more games over the break.

If you take away the 30 from him, Austin... Austin ain't passing the ball to him. He has to pass it. They have to trickle it down. What? Not a chance. No. Yes, D-Lo, all them other guys are taking shots.

One thing I'm going to tell you, one thing for sure, two things for certain. If LeBron went out to Austin Reeves to take more shots, then... Hell yeah. So LeBron played all 20 games. AD and Reeves both played 18 games this season. But like I said, AD leading the team in field goal attempts per game in 19.

LeBron second at 17. Also Reeves third. The first three quarters, they featuring him in the fourth quarter. Everybody's like, my turn. And he's a big, he can shoot free throws. He can, like, it just. Sometimes. Like, it's one of the.

Except when the game on the line. No, it's just one of the things, man. Like, you have to be mindful as a coach to understand that. Like that's what I said. If I'm coaching and I know he disappears in the fourth, I'm going to start him off the fourth. Like LeBron sitting. Anybody that's aggressive, sit your asses down.

Yeah. Right? We're going to just run the ball to him. Because if he's getting fouled by the time LeBron gets in, no heavy lifting. Right? There's no heavy lifting. I'm going to, while he's in, treat by the time Bron gets in, no heavy lifting. Right? There's no heavy lifting. I'm going to, while he's in, treat this motherfucker like Shaq and Kobe.

Right? Kobe's sitting Shaq. We're just going to feed you the fucking ball. By the time Kobe get in, we damn near in the penalty. Hot rod going to do hot rod stuff. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. I think we've done enough discussion on America's team. A.

Not enough? I said LeBron James is A. That was the original question. He gets discussion on America's team. A. Not enough? I said LeBron James is A. That was the original question. He gets an A-plus for being in this 22-plus-plus. Okay. Average of 23-9 and 8 rebounds per game. Thank you. But let's keep it moving. The Lakers are on the road tonight taking on Ant-Man and the Wolves

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So after dropping 43 on the Wizards Dome last week, the Beard did some cooking against a real team giving the Nuggets 39-9 rebounds and 11 dimes going 10 for 26 from the field, 6 for 15 from deep and 13 for 13 from the line. In his last three games, Harden has averaged 34 points, 10 assists and 6 rebounds. So Norm Powell also did his thing, came up with 28 points. He was five for eight from deep. And Amir Coffey and Terrence Mann combined for 28 points off the bench. On the Nuggets side, Joker messed around and dropped another triple-double. He had 28 points, 14 rebounds, 11 dimes. It was his 138th career triple-double tying him with Magic Johnson.

Jamal Murray and MPJ both had 18, and seven Nuggets scored in double figures. So late in the game, the Nuggets cut the Clippers lead to two in the final moments, but Harden sealed the win by hitting two free throws with eight seconds remaining. But let's enjoy these moments. Into a dome, proving to be a very good home atmosphere still. Oh, ah, yep. Reincarnated.

He even did the... He was stirring the pot, stirring the pot. So are you surprised to see the Clippers playing this well without Kawhi? They won seven of their last nine games, currently seventh in the West, but only three games behind OKC for the top spot. So older James Harden with the mentality of the younger James Harden as far as leadership and trying to facilitate, get these young guys involved. I think it's a good time for him right now. There's a lot of things that I think he likes to prove in his leadership role as he's older that he doesn't have to do as much.

We can still kind of get it done. I picked him 2.5 threes over higher, and I knew he was going to go. It was like an insult, like, James can't get three threes? Like, yeah, I can get that. So I like the way James is playing. I like the way the Clippers are playing. It's not going to last as long as we think it's going to last, but just the energy to see that they're out there fighting without Kawhi. Yeah.

It just shows a lot of resilience. Like I said, 13-9, seventh in the West right now. Very surprising. At one point earlier in the season, we were talking about maybe the Thunder snatching. Yeah. That top four protected pick from them. But good to see them bouncing back.

Can you read your thoughts on the Clippers so far while they wait for Kawhi to make his return? No, I like the way they're playing. I said it earlier in the show earlier this year. The addition has nothing to do with players, but the addition of Jeff Van Gundy to that staff and emphasis on defense, the way they're playing defensively, I think is the key.

We knew James was capable of having big scoring outputs. Not surprising that, but we thought like Gil said he could average 30. I said averaging low 20s and high assists is a good formula, but he's gonna need some of these outputs throughout the season without Kawhi. Yeah, so 22 and 9, seven rebounds so far this season playing 34 minutes a game. Yeah, they holding it down until Kawhi gets back because we don't know when that's gonna be. To be above 500 right now, hey,

you're not going to ask for it at this point, right? In a tough, tough Western Conference? So, yeah. For, you think James will win the championship? No. Okay. Is this his, is this a championship for No. Okay. Is this his, is this a championship for him?

Paul George leaves, Russ leaves, Kawhi's out, and he gets this team to the playoffs. Made the playoffs in every season in his career.

What I'm saying is, is this like a, is like, when we look at his career, and, you know, when someone says, you know, this person is a winner, this person is a loser, to look at this roster and he's managing these guys. He has these guys playing basketball that we've never seen.

We've never seen Zubac playing like this. We've never seen Powell playing like this. So to have them look in the way they look is this is this like one of those things that say you got to put some respect on the name because he could easily just say man fuck let me go out and just check this shit and no one would even bat an eye right so the fact that he's averaging nine ten assists passing these guys the ball making them feel yeah which was what was wrong say this is his his opportunity to be a leader mm-hmm right which people he's been held of a

basketball player and his numbers have been what they was and people is always people have always questioned that part of it right so for him to be in that role now walk wise out PG's out, PG is gone, it's a different, he's older now, so he's looking to do different things and to rely on his guys a little more at times. So I think to your point, yes, and just to add on what Rashard was saying, I think that leadership part is something that he's trying to prove to people that he can be. So, yeah, if he gets to the playoffs, and we don't know how long Kawhi is going to be out if he's going to play this year.

Can you bring him back? You need him. For what? The All-NBA? Talent, caliber, player, solid, contributor. If you get in the playoffs, right? I don't think you bring him back just specifically for the playoffs. No, that's a mistake.

But if the team was nasty right now, let's say they didn't have a good start. Come March, right? Just say if he's out through December, starting the new year, we see what the record is starting the new year, we see where, what the record is starting the new year, right? You give it January, because you got a lot of games in January. Every team play at least 17 games in January. I see where we are after January, then if it's looking bleak, then no. You know what I'm saying is...

I'm saying that you don't bring him back. Let's say he comes back, plays in January, and he's showing signs. February, March. Do you trade him? Is he tradable? He's not tradable. If he's showing any type of... I don't think nobody's taking that chance.

You know that you talk about goods and services. You're like, I'm not buying that if it don't look like it. Remember, there's always a dummy that's willing to buy something. You can always trick a motherfucker to buy something, right? Put some lipstick on, some lipstick on. Still a pig. Still a pig.

It's a pig. Look through these little goggles. Ray. Oh, that's a nice-ass lady right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Welcome to the pig. Speaking of Kawhi, on Friday, Ty Lue lady right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it'll be. Speaking of Kawhi, on Friday, Ty Lue said he's back on the court doing workouts,

and during a recent episode of his show, Pat Bev revealed a convo he had with the Claw recently. I talked to Kawhi on the phone yesterday. He's healing up. He's healing up like a fucking machine. Claw. That's why I got him in my phone. The Claw. The league stinks right now. Views are low. I agree. E, they are waiting on the Claw. in my phone. The league stinks right now. Views are low.

I agree. They are waiting on the claw. I say, tell my boy Jerm, I say, lock the fuck in. He said, I'm going to get right, I'm on the way. Silent assassin. So good to your point. But how dangerous is this Clipper squad with the healthy Kawhi and Harden, or somewhat healthy Kawhi and Harden playing at this level?

Does anybody buy Clipper vision? Did you say dangerous? Huh? I was trying to get the exact question. How dangerous? I was trying to get the exact question. A little dangerous, a lot dangerous, no danger? It's a scale.

A scale of danger. No, you was asking Gil. I just wanted to hear. I just wanted to make sure I had the... No, you said Gil. To start, but it was a question for the count. So let Gil answer it. I just wanted to make sure I heard the question correctly know, you said Gil. To start, but it was a question for the count. So let Gil answer it.

I just wanted to make sure I heard the question correctly before I answered it. A level of danger. Okay. A level. Could be zero. I mean, Kawhi coming back, yeah, it heightens the team because now you got two star players out there, one all-NBA player. So, yeah, I mean, they become better than they are now in theory.

But hypothetically. better than they are now, in theory. But... Hypothetically? Shit, I mean, how many games we gonna get you for a big fella? You know? The views is down, yeah.

They've been down for a minute on you. Yeah, we've been... You asked how many people have Clipper vision? Yeah, I mean, he said the view's down. I, we've been you know, you asked how many people but have Clipper vision Yeah, you know he said if he's down, I mean no one watches cook Clipper games I think he's talking about across the league because I'm pretty sure But I'm pretty sure when you are playing nobody tunes in to the Clipper games. It's just FYI

Just FYI, but if he comes back, cool. If not, it comes to the point where they're at a real standstill. And the standstill is this. Moving to your new direction that's rebuilding, are you going to rebuild with both your superstars and you got to figure out to get rid of them? Or you have Harden playing his last days and making these guys better for his exit? Or do you want Kawhi coming back playing his last days? Like, who's going to put you in a better situation to move forward with?

That's really how you look at it. Like, if you can get something right now for Kawhi, he was all NBA last year, so somebody's going to bite. You're going to get big biters at Kawhi to bring back some new pieces that you can bring in and say,

this is my rollout plan. Versus James Harden. Kawhi under contract this season and the next two years after that. He signed that $350 million deal last year. You can trick Utah to get rid of marketing. You can trick a motherfucker, trust me. You can trick Detroit out of some shit.

Mm. It seems to me that the Lakers and the Clippers are the same team. Whoa, relax, bro. Relax, man. You know why? Don't even put that in the same... Both of them? Okay, you think both of them are headed? James Harden is Anthony Davis.

Whoa, broski! Whoa! James Harden is the star on his team. He's without his other star, right? That's... he's smoking. That's the... It's the opposite of... The role players for the Clippers, right? He's smoking. It's the opposite of... The role players for the Clippers, right? Are holding the team together. The role players.

James Harden is being the facilitator. Older in age, similar to A.D. A.D. could be in the same position to do what James is doing. Becoming the leader of the team in which he was brought in to be the to do what James is doing, becoming the leader of the team in which he was brought in to be the leader of. Kawhi, yeah, you got here before I got here,

but you can't stay healthy, so let's... Let me do it. Let me do it with less. Let me do it with less. Let's show you how we can do it with less. Let me be the focal point. If you're unreliable and you can't get it done and they trade you and they give us even more reliable pieces, I think we can get somewhere.

But if we can't get nowhere, you being unreliable, what the fuck are we doing? It's the same thing with the Lakers. Yeah, you just got it mixed up though. Regardless. LeBron who's reliable. But LeBron's not the young guy. He's not the young guy. That should be the point.

The young proven guy. That the four-year-old has to be the most reliable player on the court, that's the bad part. Yeah, it's bad about... Because the NBA is trash. You got a 40-year-old holding a team together and don't want to hand it off to the young guy. No, because he can't.

It's like he can't. So Kawhi... Right. Like if I say, yeah, take the wheel, and like we've been driving, and I'm like, all right, King, take over. Right? Oh, shit. See? He's been, like, he's been watching.

Like, crash. Like, crash. And that's why he don't want to give it. Right? That's the reason I can't give it to him. Because he's sleep. Like, yo, King, take it. Here, huh?

What happened? I'm trying to give you the wheel. I'm tired. I want to give you the wheel so you can drive forward. And you sitting on the phone, you've been smoking, drinking. Like, LeBron's like, yeah, I don't know if I want to give you the wheel to this car. But like James, Kawhi didn't have a choice to give him the keys at this point. Kawhi has to give James the keys.

So there ain't been a place like that for the Lakers where I got to give you the keys. Here you go. James is in a better position to show his leadership. And that's why I'm only giving that reference because it's like they're both high-level players. One is given the opportunity right now to show his leadership after his talent has faded a little bit.

The other is sitting behind somebody else who's way older than him. So he's waiting for opportunity to do what James is doing to show I can be the leader of the Lakers and James is trying to I can be the leader of the Clippers. I think it's both the same kind of message.

That's the problem, man. How long does someone sit aside while you're not being aggressive? Like how many minutes how many minutes? How many minutes can you sit there and... Before it kicks in, like, oh, shit, we got to stop.

We still got to try to win this game, y'all. Everybody go back active. Like, how many, like, it's... Like, how long do you... How long are... Like, he came in the game. Oh, you're not warm yet. Oh, got it, like, how long do you, how long are, like, he came in the game. Oh, you're not warm yet. Okay, got it, got it. That's the difference, though.

The difference is James Harden is the point guard. He can facilitate who gets the ball. AD not bringing that bitch up. He can't be like, hey, man, nah, man, the point guard do that. That's why James is good at this position, and Kawhi wouldn't be able to do what James is doing because he ain't a point guard. He's a guy who gets the ball, puts it in the basket.

James makes everyone feel like they have an opportunity to be a part of the game. Man, I understand what you're saying, but I've never, I've never in my life, this must be hard to do. Yo! Bring that bitch over here. My life this must be hard to do Yo Bring that bring that bitch over here

Bring that bitch over here They do the Rudy like Rudy go bro. Hey That's really go back what you said We don't speak English. You said it don't happen. It happens. It literally happens. But that makes sense. You know, we don't speak that language. But what I'm saying, he gets the ball more.

He's more aggressive than AD in the fourth quarter, right? Don't do that. Don't do that. That's your man. It's the Lakers. No, what I'm saying. You got to talk to him. You talk to them.

Be honest. He calling your phone after this. When we watch the game, who looks more like they want the ball in the fourth quarter? Okay, that's different. Okay, that's all I'm saying. He don't ever get the ball, though. But he never get, but who looks like, yo. Yeah, he want it.

It comes to a point where I'm like, I just get that motherfucking ball. Just throw it to him. Just throw it to him one time. Like I'm starting to feel bad for Goddamn Rudy over there. Like, come on, man. He just walking around turning the bag. He's got the game every time. Hey! Oh, oh, oh over there. Like, come on, man. Y'all just... He just walking around. Like, he's got me in every time. Hey! Oh, oh, oh, oh!

Like, come on, man. He turn around like, man, I'm going to give you the ball. Like, I'm starting to feel bad. Like, man, he's throwing that motherfucker the ball, man. He getting open, man. That is damn shame down there. But that's what we want to see from AD. Like, come on, man.

Like, at least want it. Well, think about James, though. Let me ignore you for it and look bad on you. James played lethargic with the other two players. That was there until they started to just... Once they're gone,

James is starting to play like he's like, bro, I can do this. This is the best part of my game. I couldn't do that with y'all guys because y'all want what I got.

I got the ball. I'm a playmaker. Let me be the playmaker. So you got to ask that question, man, because, like, outside of LeBron, when you talk about everybody,

like, why are the other players ignoring him too? Yeah, that's a big question. You know what I mean? That's a big question. That is a big question. Because I'm sorry. There's no respect. You got Shaq and Kobe, right? There's no way, right, if Shaq's on the court,

Kobe's going to allow the other three to ignore him. That's not going gonna happen, right? It's it's Remember the Joe Johnson him Joe you got Joe Johnson Joe Johnson on the team and you had Jamal Crawford Oh, I'm ill set. Yeah, Jamal. Come over. Hey, man. Listen Bring that shit to me and then you got Joe whisper into a man Look, I don't get fuck what you do last five minutes bring that shit to me. And then you got Joe whispering to you, hey man, look, I don't give a fuck what you do. Last five minutes, bring that shit to me. So you got Teague out there like, uh.

Who do I give it to? It's my time. Let me shoot. Sorry, Jamal. Joe, fuck it. Because you already know, both going whisper who getting that ball. And that's really how it was

so it's like come on man, like You got it you got it you got it you got it wanted for you first before I can want it for you I mean, you know like I because I see somebody who don't get the ball still call for it Every game, you know Rudy has gonna be out of every game Jumping his happy ass in the lane every game gonna cause the three seconds It becomes a point like I mean shitty is defensively he's turn over is that will you do that? Teams three second Oh Whose turnover is that when you do that? Whoever got the ball. No, it can't be. Whose turnover is that?

Teams? Three second. Ooh. Is that to do with the ball? It can't be. It goes as a team turnover? Might be a team turnover. Is that a team turnover?

So we will look that up. But you talked about Harden's influence and impact and maybe not getting the respect and love he deserves. So Nesgaard, Cam Thomas, only 23 years old, already a certified bucket getter. Thomas made an appearance on the Draymond Green Show with Baron Davis recently and had this to say when asked whose game had more influence on his generation between Harden and Steph.

I think we really gravitated towards James because James was doing the isos, like breaking people down one-on-one, scoring the 40s and 50s. I think Steph really changed the way teams wanted to play the game of basketball, shooting the threes, the pace y'all play at, just moving around without the ball. I think Steph really changed the way the teams around the league try to play. James really changed the individual play of players, like the isos. Really me, just the isos, the handles, step backs, shooting

tough shots, you know, just the foul drawing, just all that stuff. I think James really changed the individual skill of how players wanted to play the game. So Gil, I see you. First, we'll get to that discretion. Then second, your baby photo is on the ornament. Where y'all get the baby photos from, man? Did you see this? Oh, I noticed that man Baby photos on the baby photos That's a badass little kid right I didn't see your face. I already know you on my son. Oh, my God.

Demon. I already know you on Demon. Old man. Pushing people down steps. Let's get back to that Cam Thomas clip. What's your reaction to Cam Thomas saying Harden had more influence on players while Steph had more influence on teams? He was talking about his generation, looking at the two players.

He more emulated Harden'sstyle because of ISOs and... Oh, okay. I hear what he's saying. Yeah. We focus on us and not... Or me. Focus on me and not us. Fuck the big three. Like when he said it, you're like, wait, what? Because you know you have every kid growing up, like AAU, everyone's chucking threes, right?

Yeah. growing up, like AAU, everyone's chucking through you, right? You have that going on, but when you look at everybody has the bag, it's not Kirby's bag. It is a version of James Harden's bag, right? The zero step. All that stuff that was created, the zero step,

the two steps, the double step back, all that really came from it really did come from james right when you see it translating like i guess people feel they can pick that up versus being stiff because that's harder because to be steph you had to start that shit at an early age. Like that, you can't just be at 16 years old saying I'm gonna be like Steph Curry. Sorry. You're six to seven years too late of that.

You need to start those training sessions and working on your shot at about eight, nine, ten for you to be a daily shooter like that. Let's talk about the reality though. Huh? About seven. About seven, yeah. My son about to be seven. Hey, Cash, Cash was in the wind.

I'd see him took a jump shot, wind down there, blew him off. Yeah, my sister out there shooting on Thanksgiving. Shooting on Thanksgiving, wind blowing. He don't want to shoot. Yeah, wind blowing, though, like, it's blowing out there. He's shooting. He out there in the terrains. The basket right there, he like... Is that okay? Trajectory.

The reality for me is, like, Steph Curry showed you that it's a lot more energy exerting to play the way that I play in comparison to getting your one-on-one move off and shooting the three. Like, Steph being able to move without the ball, the way that he does is there's a lot of energy.

And a guy like him, like, imagine him playing like Steph right now. He was out there in Brooklyn running around, coming off back doors and all that. Like, his points per game would go crazy because he has more to his game than just a me versus me step back. Right?

That's where our game has evolved to where a guy like Cam can get on here and talk about how his individual game is better than the team game. We've gotten away from team. I think Cam Moore, just from an offensive standpoint... Yeah, he's saying that Steph Curry, the way Steph Curry played,

made teams change and want to be like that versus like... All the kids that shoot from half court. Yeah. It's capped. But that's why they shoot so many threes because of Golden State. The biggest cap ever is just because he has a preference of liking James Harden compared to Steph. Everyone likes to bring their preferences in

and create a divide with what everyone else likes in their own opinions. You like Steph, it's because Steph shoots a bunch of threes and he wins championships. You like James because he scores 60 and 15 and he's going to give you seven, eight threes. It's a preference. But what leads to championships and what doesn't

that's the difference to me i think steph has had more effect on the game individually and team for players a copy yeah yeah facts overall game not just the nba game the overall game of basketball steph not just the nba. The overall game of basketball. Steph. Not just the NBA game. Yeah, we're talking about that younger generation of hoopers. Younger, just the overall game of basketball. Steph Curry has had an individual impact on the way teams play and individuals play. Facts.

Straight facts. It's hard. Because everybody don't have that scoring ability like James. Right. It's hard. It's... Because everybody can't... Everybody don't have that scoring ability like James. Right. To hit those moves. See, I don't... See, I think just the moves itself, when you're looking at, like, trainers, right? And trainers are teaching moves.

They're teaching everything James Harden brought to the game. Yes. Right? So when we're talking about packages, they're bringing the package. I think what ends up happening is we want to say Curry because of all the threes that came in, but I think reality kicked in with him. And I think when people,

like, let's be like Curry, they realize they can't. I don't think they realize. I can't. They haven't. They can't realize. I can shoot, they realize they can't. I don't think they realize. I can't. They haven't. They can't realize. I can shoot a three and they can potentially go in and I can say, Curry! But see, that's not Curry.

It's not. But it's like Curry. But that's what I'm saying. Because you want me to be like Curry and then I got to watch Curry and then I got to do everything Curry do, I don't like that because I don't want to be in shape like that. That's what I was just saying. Him running around with that screen saying, I don't want that because I don't want to be in shape like that. That's what I was just saying. It's too much. It ain't that part of his game.

Exactly. That is the influence. No, they just want the three. And that's the biggest influence over... But see, that's what I'm saying. It's hard because they're not shooting the Curry through. They're shooting the step back James. But wait, the James package... Because he's shooting. Remember, he's doing the same thing.

The James package you're talking about, as a hooper, you can't go out there and start from the beginner session and go right into a James Harden package. James Harden's package is elite. It's for elite players only. You got to be elite to know how to pull it off, get it off, and pop. But when you're looking at trainers, when you're going to all these trainers and all these kids in the NBA, what are the trainers teaching them?

They're not teaching them movement, running around, come off, do the screen. They're not teaching them that. They're teaching them everybody from, I got 12 players, everybody get to be James Harden today. But you got, so you got a kid in high school. What's happening during them games? Triple team. Triple teaming. Triple teaming?

No, no, no, no. How is everybody playing? There's a lot of threes. They want to shoot threes. There's a lot of... The game you didn't come to the other day, I went and watched Wesley play. I was doing a playback.

He was doing a playback. Watch party. He was doing a watch party. We were working. I went to the game. The team that they were playing in North Hollywood, there's a kid that shot them up. He was, listen.

He was letting it go? Bottom. But it's, I'm like, why is he, soon as he, I'm like, soon as he got ready, I'm like, oh, you know me. Block that, block that. I'm like, hell no. Block that.

Swashup draws. Every time he catch, no matter where he was catching it from, he cocking that thing. He shoot like Maricola from the one to shoot at. Cocking it and knocking that bitch down, though. And I'm like, and everybody on the team, though, they just searching that line.

It's like everybody. And everybody on the team, nobody was taller than 6'1". You see, I don't look at Steph. See, I think when I look at Steph, I don't see just threes. Me neither. Right? Like, if you're just going to shoot a three, you're more Clay Thompson than you are.

Because he broke the record, right? Because people don't see the way he finishes around the rim. They don't see his game. Because in the game, you just shot three levels nine for 17 you shot nine for 17 and 816 was yeah, but but you shot 16 three we're watching but when we watch step we know it ain't like Everybody's more clay Thompson than they are Steph Curry. You're just catch shoot threes you come off shoot. You're not moving around. You're not setting screens. You're not back-flowing, passing, cutting. You're not.

That's. So I look at it like that. Yes. Absolutely. But I'm talking about the masses. You have a basketball hockey. You watch the game at a different level, right? You watch the totality of it.

You know what Steph does to get open. You relax. I'm going back door. You do this. I'm going to screen slip. Screen come off this, I'm going back door. You do this, I'ma screen slip. Screen come off this. I'ma screen slip at this time. I'ma screen come off this time. I'ma screen come off this time. I'ma screen slip.

I'ma go act like I'ma set it. Then I'm he do all of that. They don't see none of that shit. They just see when he come off that motherfucker, drop a hand off, Draymond drop that bitch off and he let that bitch fly. That's all they see. They don't see what he did to get to. They're both in the same generation. Right.

Like when James Harden was shooting, when he was averaging 34, they're chucking threes, so they both got an argument for it. Absolutely, they do. Yeah, they both got an argument for it. So I think it's a mix of both. It's the boom, boom, boom to James,

joint to get to the three, but it's Steph, everybody's seen what Steph did at Davidson from their own and what he did to be successful in college, how he shot the ball then. And then you look at a guy like Trey Young came along, and then it's

so it's stacked, right? It's a small guard that can put that bitch in a basket at an alarming rate, and there's a lot of threes with it. Yeah, they got... Damn the fact that he handles that, got that bitch on the screen,

and you can't take the ball from him. Like, they not taking the part... They not taking the part that makes Steph shot. Yeah. Like, what makes him get this off is everything else. Because they can't. The dribbling... Like, his dribbling is fucking immaculate.

Right? Like how he's making people fumble over shit so he can get the shot off. Right? His endurance, another reason to get the shot off.

You're just going from three to three. That's not Steph Curry. Would you want to be a guy that's an isolation one-on-one guy or a guy who is embedded inside of the team format? Which one would I rather be?

That's the question right now that we're dealing with in the NBA. Are you an individual star that has a package? What package does that have? Because think about this. Steph Curry doesn't go get his shot off against that point guard that's in front of him. Switch, big, bop, bop, bop, get my shit off. Every time that happens, you see, Steph don't want that one-on-one matchup

with that point guard because it's harder for him to get his shit off on him. Because it's a matchup. I beg to differ. Now, when you cross match, just like with James, James is better one-on-one with a guy his size, because that's what he do. And if you switch me on a big, it's even worse.

Everyone looking at this package like, I need that in my game if I'm going to be good. I need, that's a new package. 2K, unlock that level. Oh, I got the James Harden now? Oh, I'm about to kill him. But you don't got the Steph, so you don't even know what to do, and we stop that.

We load up on this, what does James do? We've seen what James does when you load up on that. I think, like you guys said, both are elite. The problem we see a lot of the younger generation, right, they don't understand Steph's off-ball movement and how he gets those threes. Same thing with James. They don't understand how much work you have to put in to get that to be able to Have like that bag not a thing. What's what was someone like curry when you say I'd rather be I'd rather have Curry's package

The one thing that you need would Curry's packages is smart players around you Yeah, also, yep to understand movement understand like because if you got a bunch of selfish dudes, that's one-on-one Yeah, can't see me when I got like you sit here and pass it and then you back door to pop and this man With this way and I'm like That all love I'm feeling you have a whole bunch of pools on your team I'm gonna break it out even more simple in this If your depth perception don't let you throw this motherfucking pillow for me to, Rashad,

I'd throw this bitch over his head, every time. Yeah, yeah, terrible. That's what makes this man elite. Yeah. His depth perception, his eye, everybody don't have that. Mm-hmm. Select few.

Yep. Yep. Have that. So it's all of those things and that and the conditioning, the work. Man, it's so layered to be what Steph is. And people are just taking a small part of it and then ran with it. And everybody don't have a fraction of that one thing. Yeah. Right?

Damn the other stuff that's on the list. Yeah. They don't have a fraction of the shooting part of it. The shooting. Mm-hmm. So you doing things and trying to perfect something that this man has is multi-layered. Yeah, fact.

It ain't just... Yeah. So we asked the chat, who's more influential? 78% said Steph. Mm. 22% said James Harden. But today's podcast is brought to you by Vaya Hemp. Restore your zen and embrace the natural power of hemp

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I don't know. It has to be closer than that. Because you got to remember, also, all the rule changes that happened in the NBA in the last five, six years has been because of him. Every rule that has came into the NBA... That's just the NBA. The step, all that, like, foul baiting and all that pump fake... It's to get rid of... It's to the NBA. The step, all that, like, foul baiting and all that pump fake.

It's to get rid of, it's to stop him. Yeah, but look. You were talking about 450 players. Yeah. Steph Curry shooting three in the playoffs. So we're talking about the game. He's winning championships shooting three. No, what I'm saying, Reed.

You're talking about the overall game. No, I get that, but what I'm talking about, like, he's bent the rules so much that the league had to change all its rules. To the point that they had to make an emphasis in high school. Say, wait, hold on, there's no gather step here. Like, they had to redo all the rules and say, because all these kids are

doing the gather step. Because there was a trap. And high school had to come out and say, there's no gather rule here. Because our rules never change. High school rules, all they say, our rules have never changed. Our rules ain't changed. I know, but that's what I'm saying. But it trickled all the way down because all the stuff everybody's doing,

they say, wait, hold on, that's in the NBA. This shit don't work in college and overseas. There had to be these portals to show this is. Let me ask you this. The James Harden move, the step back. If it's considered a travel, how many kids are going to do it and get called for a travel

before they stop doing it and just shoot a three-light stuff? How many has? How many would? I don't know. If I'm coming down and I try to do the James Harden and the ref say,

whoop, high school ref, whoop, travel. How many times I'm going to get called for travel before I just be like, I should just do the Steph. Two, three games? Just do the Steph. Rashad, the most important thing in that is high school ref, so. Yeah, he's going to call a travel on the state.

They look crazy, right? If it don't look natural, we're going to call. That's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. I'm thinking about, like, they changed rules of foul beating, all of that. He's an elite. He's an elite. That's what I'm saying. But that's what I'm saying. I'm thinking about, like, then they change rules of foul-beating, all of that stuff. He's an elite.

He's an elite. He changed it on an elite level. We're talking about the overall game. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. Right? If that, if you, if we were talking about the league itself

and you equate that, then, yeah, I give you that. NBA. The NBA influence. The NBA influence. Yeah, but we're talking about that younger generation coming in. The younger generation on,

like, the overall game, like. Steph Curry, by the way. Yeah, but we're talking about that younger generation coming in. The younger generation on, like, the overall game, like. Steph Curry, by the way. Yeah, the other rules haven't changed because of James this. It ain't changed. They still, they ain't figured that part of the game out yet. Because these high school referees, you watch this shit, they bad. And we've seen more players do it. I'm just saying, you just realize how much shit he brung into the game.

Are you right? Like, when you really, like, sit there and just back up and say, man, that type of utero is him. That drop step, boom, boom, boom, that, this, he perfected. Like, you start realizing, like, he brung about six to seven things that, like, he perfected into the game that made the rest of the, like, players want to do. I seen Ticket do this from the big man.

From the big man. That was Tim Duncan. Man, that's a Chauncey Billups. He taught me, like, when you end up, because I used to be in the post a lot. He's like, when you end up post, Chauncey definitely done it so many times in Detroit. But it's debating them to reach. Bring it out. Boom, boom, boom.

And Ticket was like, hey, you get stuck down there, just bring that bitch out. Go up. See James do it with the Euro. It made it way different. Because D-Wade stole it from Ginobili. And then he made it feel different. And James is like, shit, I'm left-handed. Just like Ginobili. You can't never get to this. They all stole it from Elobili, and then he made it feel different. And James is like, shit, I'm left-handed. Just like Ginobili. You can't never get to this.

Well, they all stole it from Elgin Baylor. You can go on YouTube. I know how they stole it from him, because I seen Dominique Wilkins do it, and they call it travel. The Elgin step. I was like, he was just boom, boom, tra-brrr. Like, that's damn.

Sheesh. Elgin Baylor was getting that off in the 50s and shit. The one-two? Like, it just, Dominique just went, uh, uh. Sheesh. Elgin Baylor was getting that off in the 50s. The one-two? Dominique just went, uh, uh. You used to jump off two, motherfucker. Go back to two. Yeah, go back to two.

So I look normal to me. We got to talk about an unfortunate situation going on in the league right now. Last season, Wizards forward Kyle Kuzma had jokes for the Pistons during their record-setting 28-game losing streak. In the midst of that streak, Kuz tweeted the following. He said, at this point, it's like, don't be that team. You know, got some laughs. But we're going to see 41 million impressions on that tweet. But after a win over Washington last month, the Pistons got their get back.

They posted this tweet saying, don't say it, don't say it, don't say it. Sighs. At this point, it's like, don't be that team. And now the Wizards find themselves in the midst of a 14-game losing streak that saw them suffer through a no-win November. We have

the graphic to prove it. That's right. The Wizards lost all 14 of their games. Currently a league worst, 2-16 this season. Hey, be good or be good at it. And that's not good. That's some real man shit right there. That's a lot of L.

It take a real man to lose 14? Yeah, man, they really like, like, when we say no nut November, they really took it to the extreme. Like, we've never seen it in a professional setting before where you ain't busting for shit. There you go, right there. They ain't just losing.

They lost. They getting their ass kicked. They ain't. Okay, so like I said, Wizards lost all 14 of their games. The closest game was nine. So here's a look at their next 15 games this season. As a reminder, the Pistons have that 25th.

Wait, hold on. When Detroit lost, it was like, it was winnable games. Yeah, they lost a whole bunch of winnable. A whole lot of close games. Yeah, this is true. Let's take a look at their next 15 games. Like I said, Pistonsons 28 straight losses in the season. So, hard to see many wins in their future,

but they do have two games against both the Hornets and Pelicans. With the Sixers game on January 8th potentially serving as the Dookie Bowl. Oh, that's late. Where they can set a new record for most consecutive losses in a single season. They might lose all of them. Are the Wizards in jeopardy of breaking the pistol? They can lose all of them games up until they play New Orleans. They can beat them twice.

And then they go to New Orleans. They're going to lose at New Orleans. They might be healthy by that. They're going to lose at New Orleans. There's only one team I see in the AD possibly can beat. What is that? December 21. New Orleans.

I knew that was coming. Doc and his bitch like, Yeah, Milwaukee. I knew that was coming. Uh-huh. Talking to this bitch like, yeah, man. Shit, it's vacation time. You know, the Bucks have turned a corner. I've been very successful. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They turned it just like that.

So they got their December schedule already. They ain't got no cup games. Mm-mm. That's funny. They had their shit made already. They do that. They do. Like, realistically?

They can lose all them games date They definitely yeah Yeah Unless you get like a Charlotte at home unless unless like The mellow don't play they got Charlotte. Yeah, that's a lameelo don't play. They got Charlotte. Yeah, that's it. LaMelo don't play. You fuck around. Memphis, Ja don't play. Maybe... They got Charlotte twice in there, so that's a...

But they... Yeah. See, the problem is, they don't... Are they the only team that don't have... One of the only teams that don't have

an actual star player? Mm. Yeah. Wizards is probably the only team that don't have, like, a legit, like... You're the next upcoming or you the star player They got that's why they got the number one pick

Or number two, I look sorry my bad number two pick No, no like you should even I mean if you had a star you would it's market like marketing like you You're poor after 21. No, you wouldn't... Is marketing... Jordan Poole averaged a 21 this year. No. So you wouldn't need the number one. Like, marketing... 21 points, good. Where is marketing compared to...

Where is marketing compared to... Poole. In marketing. I mean... Like, that's what I'm saying. Marketing's been awesome. Yeah, so, like, you don't... Like, it's one of the only teams that don't have that dude.

Mm. Portland? Okay, yes. Yeah. I mean, yeah. No. Portland, yeah. Same. He's like Jordan Poole. Yeah, yeah, Portland. Okay, so Portland, yeah, yeah.

Portland. I'm just saying. No, no, no, Portland. No, no, dead ass. It's the same. Hell of a talent, but, just but. Other than that, I can't see it, too. Yeah.

He's a hell of a talent. That's rare in the NBA, right? Yeah. Well, Kasong, you're a good guy. You're a good guy. You're a good guy. You're a good guy. You're a good guy. You're a good guy. You're a good guy. But he's a hell of a talent. That's rare in the NBA, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Well, some guys just be stuck averaging a whole lot of points.

And they don't be in the bottom. And the basketball gods might send their ass to worse than Detroit just to make it look. Because, you know, that's what happens. Bad. When tweets don't age well. How many have they lost so far? They are 2-16 this season.

They're only wins against the Atlanta Hawks. How'd they beat them? They beat the Hawks twice. Beat the Hawks twice back-to-back game. They only seem to beat the Cavs twice and lose to the— Yeah, the Hawks are the only team that they beat the Cavs twice in back-to-back game. They also lost to the Wizards early ins twice in back-to-back games. They also lost to the Wizards early in the season in back-to-back games.

Who's man Jordan Poole are both champions, huh? Yeah, but... Yeah, but we know that there's a difference. Don't be hitting me with the butt. Don't do that. No, I'm just saying, like, you know, being a champion as the fourth option is not really, doesn't translate to you being a champion, champion.

Really? What is a champion champion? You can get your own team and then bring in that championship mindset, right? Like, I mean, you didn't go to sleep early. Let's just be honest, right? It's not like Jordan Poole was going to sleep looking at the goddamn, like, yeah, I need to stop him. I need to do this. Like, he slept normal, right?

He played video games all night, came in, you know, Steph doing Steph, Draymond doing Draymond, Clay and them, and then he come in, hit his little 15, playing regular basketball. Come on, we know. We know there was no sacrificing. We saw it. We watched it. Money got to Washington.

Who the GM? Washington? Huh? Who the GM in Washington? Oh, don't do that. Don't do that. We working on something down there. Progression.

Guess what? Don't fuck up his bags. Pressure process? Yeah, yeah. Just press process, whoever it is. New process? Someone new. Bad for business

It's just unfortunate I ever just they just don't have the dude that they can really Say you are a guy they wonder you just right now y'all just all losing waiting for us the guy to come Like that. That's it. It's, waiting for the guy to come. Like, that's it. Is Cam Thomas the guy for Brooklyn right now? He's playing very well. All right, if Cam Thomas is the guy for Brooklyn, they can find out whether Jordan Poole or Kuzma is the guy for them. Like, stop making excuses and blaming the players,

and you can just put somebody in a leadership position and say, hey, man, you're our guy, we're going with you. You're going to be our guy until we find a new guy. Yeah, but I don't. But who's capable of being that consistent to be saying you that guy? Neither. Cam Thomas, not that consistent for you to do that. But they gave it to him because he can go get it. No, I can tell you one thing.

No one gave Cam nothing. What you mean? No, no, no. No, every time he came in the game, we know Cam was there. You know what I'm saying? He got the green light now. No, no, he had. I don't know what light he had, but it was green every time he touched it. Regardless. Yeah, it's just

George Boo got the same light. Same guy. Yeah, no, there's a difference. There's a difference between you being a green guy player, right? And I'm just not giving you minutes versus putting a guy out there and saying, you got a green guy player, right, and I'm just not giving you minutes versus putting a guy out there and saying, you got the green light.

Just because they gave you the green light don't mean you know how to use the green light. Yeah, I do. I averaged 20 on a championship team. With a green light. Yeah, yeah. We gave you the green light here, and you averaged all of seven.

That's because you got me over here with the purple ranger and the Green Ranger, and we ain't even the Power Rangers. No, because of the Power Girls. Who averaged 21 this season just... No, no, no, no, I get that. Got me out here with the Powderpuff Girls. No, but that's the thing.

A great show. It's like, we see you had the green light over there averaging 20 with Steph, and we're like, oh, if we remove Steph and them, you gonna average, like, 30 or 40. And then we bring you over here, and you averaging 21. oh, if we remove Steph and them, you're going to average like 30, 40. And then we bring you over here, and you're averaging 21. Because y'all didn't bring me over here. They shipped me over here.

I did not want to be here. I did not ask. We were sitting there like this. Woo! We need that guy. Woo! And then we got it in this. We did have Poole's former teammate, Andre Iguodala, here on this couch, and we were talking about that.

And there was thoughts coming into that first year with the Wiz, he could average 25, 30 a game. It was this, right? We know when Snoop smokes on set, when you're watching it, we can tell that's high grade, right? Ooh, that look like some high grade right there. Imagine getting the bag of what Snoop,

and then you get it in Ohio, and then you hit it in this mid Hey, that's what that's what happened with Jordan But you see that was all that was all that was all a blue dream right there all out dope It's all out though. It looked smoking. If you put it in a right swisher, it's on. It can still be fire. The dank is dank. Yeah. It's super sick.

Dank is dank when you put it in the right fire. It's still reggie. Are we still high? Still reggie. Still high with a headache. High with a headache. God damn it. Like, dang it.

Roll up again. That's all we got. Just sitting there like, fuck. We're going to smoke it till it's all gone. See, pop it. That's what we're going to do. Look. See? You hit it hard enough. Woo. Smoke it till it's all gone. That's what we gonna do. You hit it hard enough. Where the roaches at? I paid $3,600 for this.

I'm waking up in the morning and I'm smoking this roach too. Where my coffee at? I paid $3,600 for this one. Damn. This is bad. I got it. I bet you gonna going to smoke it. Hell yeah.

Hell yeah, you're going to smoke it. You paid for this pack. I be sitting like this. Trick me again. Trick me again. Oh, sir, guess what I do. You're going to sit here like. Come on.

Gotta come get this. Oh, I sent you what? No. Oh, damn it. You got the wrong bag. You got the wrong bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, uh, send that back in.

Oh, man, I don't know how to shit. Damn. You know what? On your next payment, I'm-a go ahead and double you up, my man. My bad. Still smoking, man. You still... Wizards got to get a different pack. That's all. Just a new pack. We just got a new pack.

They got to call in, man. What you say, man? What you send us, man? Hey, man, I got you the special. The AK-47 special. Hey, man, what did you send? I thought you said this is Reggie Bush. This is just Reggie. Oh, my bad.

I just heard the first part of it. I just... Yes. Sold. Reggie? You want the Reggie? Sold. Reggie.

Not Reggie from the clumps. It's Michael Jordan. I don't need the Dave Chappelle Reggie. Not Reggie from the clumps. It's Michael Jordan. I don't need the David Chappelle Reggie from another professor. Michael B. Jordan. My bad. My bad. I didn't know you meant Jeffrey Jordan. Yeah, the B. That's going to cost you a little bit more.

Well, God damn it. I didn't know Reggie B. cost me 36. We asked the chat. That's Reggie Miller, man. That's Reggie B. cost me 36. We asked the chat. That's Reggie Miller, man. That's Reggie Miller. We asked the chat, will the Wizards lose 29 in a row? 53% said yes. That's a lot. 15 straight.

15 more lost. That's a lot. They got to mess around and get one. We thought that with Detroit. They was in a close game. They was in a close game. Like, man, close. We closest game is nine points.

Like, when they lost, you was sitting there like, damn. Yeah, once they go again. You know, you had the tripping over at New York, that shit. Like that could have went like a whole lot of bad shit had to happen for Detroit to go down like this. They just losing. Wizards just losing. Yeah, they just losing for sure. They need ages zero. Like they ain't going out there with hope.

There's no speech that's happened before the game. That's their sin of life. Hope got the day off. We can get this, coach. In the one game that they lost by nine, they gave up 130. Yeah, 130 to 139. 139 to 130. That's crazy.

It ain't like that shit was even. So you gave up hooping out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was hooping. We all hooping too, but we just shit. Let's just keep it close. Poo, your turn. Your turn.

Who farted? Three. Three. Three. All right, well, let's talk about good basketball teams. So, interestingly, like we mentioned, Wizards only two wins this season came against the Hawks. Same Hawks squad that handed the Cavs back-to-back losses last week.

Shout out Trey Young had 22 assists in one of those wins for the Hawks. But let's talk a little bit about the Cavs. After starting the season with a franchise record 15 straight wins, the Cavs... When you said 22 assists? 22 assists. What the fuck would people be thinking about passing her that much?

How you trust a motherfucker that much? I like the way he playing. You don't trust him if he passes that much? Like, everybody... Like, for you to have 22, everybody got to, like, everybody got to be happy that day. Like, yeah, it's my birthday, bro. Oh, for real?

We had what? The Op City? 23, 22, 21, and 22. So we had 20 and 20. Yeah, we had 20 and 20. Yeah, he had what we call a Barbara Walters. Yeah. Mm.

Mm. Mm. But that boy, that boy Jalen Johnson, though? Mm. Different. Yeah. And that boy Jalen Johnson, though. Different. Jalen Johnson is different. The kid for Atlanta. Go ahead, my bad.

No, no, not at all. I appreciate y'all. That's what makes the show great. So after starting the season with a franchise record 15 straight wins, the Cavs saw that streak snapped by the Celtics in an NBA Cup game back on November 19th in Boston. Celtics pulled up to Cleveland Sunday for the rematch, but were without Jalen Brown and Derek White, who were both out for the game, but the Celtics still put up a fight. But Donovan Mitchell led the Cavs with 35 points, including 20 in the fourth quarter to help the Cavs overcome a 12-point deficit in the period.

He was a perfect six for six in the quarter, including four for four from deep. Mitchell has gone over 30 points five times in the last nine games. Darius Garland added 22 points, five boards, and eight dimes. He was four for six from deep, eight for eight from the line. And Georges Niang and Karis LeVert both chipped in 13 points each off the bench. Jason Tatum led the Celtics with 33 points and eight boards. He was 12 for 27, four for nine from deep. Porzingis played a season-high 32 minutes, had 21 points, 8 rebounds, 3 steals.

And Peyton Pritchard came off the bench and finished with 24 points and 7 boards. Celtics were 17 for 49 from 3 as a team. The Cavs were 17 for 36 from behind the arc. The Cavs win, snaps their 2-game losing streak, and the Celtics' 7-game winning streak. Do not have Brandon here today. Would have loved to get his opinion on it, but we do have you,. Does Donovan Mitchell deserve more credit for the Cavs hot start? We talked about them maybe not playing the quality of teams they need to play, but they've now done it against the Celtics. What's the thing about the quality of teams that they haven't played?

I recall during that win streak, you were not as supportive as you should have been with that 15-0 start. Franchise record. Franchise record. No, I said that was hard. You know? But, no, I mean, listen. I'm trying to figure out who to compare them to.

You trying to discredit them? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to, like, you know, like, when you look at them, you're like, man, they're a, no, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to, like, you know, like, when you look at them, you're like... Damn, they're a good team, right? They just, they play well together. Right? Like, everything moves, like, well. Even the, like, beginning of the season, we thought this was gonna be some clash

because of the two guards, but... That's what we had heard last year with reports that, you know, it was one of the other types of situations. Like Detroit Pistons, the 0-4? Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Oh, okay. Yeah, I'm like... Yeah, okay. So we're on the same... It reminds me of that team. So this Cavs squad reminds you of

the 0-4 Pistons squad. Not the dominant defense, but how they play together. Play together. They play together very well. They were together last year. Their core was together last year. They didn't break it up. They stuck with what they had. It was a four seed last year, so they were going to play well.

We were expecting them to play well coming into this year. They had some injury issues last year. Yeah, so you can bring everybody back healthy. We have a chemistry. I don't know what. Yeah, they used to play in a different system, I think, because they had to change coaches. But just the idea of us being together still is the recipe

for regular season success, right? We see how it translates in the series. It should translate in the series to get out of the, I'm saying, to get ready to make it to the second round last year, so they have to do at least that in the end. You think Eastern Conference Finals realistic for this one? Yeah, home court first round, again, getting out of the second round, because you have home court still, so...

Yeah, they can... I mean, if luck is on their side, they can find themselves in the Eastern Conference Finals. Sure. Like. Match-ups. Yeah, that's all it is. Fighting for that championship.

Match-ups. I like the Detroit Pistons comparison. It's just without the three, without the Tayshaun Prince. I think they got the two. The two bigs. They got Chauncey and Riff. And they got the two bigs. It's by committee. Okoro and Niang. Niang. It's by, and you got the Wade.

Isaac. Yeah. Like there are three. I said it's by committee. Yeah. As far as defense, like. Okoro can defend. Jared Allen. Remember, it's Tayshaun was 6'9". Yeah, so Okoro can defend. Niang makes shots. That's what I'm saying, not on the defensive of you just like overall like how to play like if you put them out there if you can combine them Come here you combine them Make it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, because Wade is about that size. All right. Yeah cuz vert

Neenah that like they're all even at him so you can add him in your first or yeah Wade And then add him. So you can add him in. Yeah, Vert. Score. Yeah. If he get it going. Em Wade and George. Em Wade and Okoro. And George brings something to the table, right? I like that. They all, that's what I said. It's like when you look, like when you sit back and look at them, you just be like, yo, they all, they playing some good ass basketball.

Like it just, like, like we, Mitchell is standing out, but when you look at the game Everybody's doing their part like everybody that like they're bigs is like they're being them They're being bigs like old-school bigs like duck like you see the ducking and they threw it to it Yeah, that's the duck in a blue it's a little like a little Houser yeah, how's our against out? But think about what saying, though. We're looking at the game of the Cleveland Cavaliers, which they don't have an outstanding talent on the roster. You look at all the other rosters that are similar, the only thing that's different is they're playing good basketball.

They're playing together. They have accountability. They're cracking down. They're boxing out. They're closing out. Yeah. They're a solid team. Think about if the Knicks played that way.

Think about certain teams like the Orlando Magic. They play that way. Certain teams have got solid talent. If you play the right way, you're going to get some wins. OKC, solid talent. They're playing the right way. And you've got to close them. And you've got to close them.

Harkestan is showing himself to be one of those Jared Allen, Mobley type of guys going going there, getting rebounds, do what you need to do, play with size. Yeah, and you gotta close them. All them situations that you name, you gotta close them. Yep. Right? So three good teams to look at in the future. Yeah, them young teams are playing very well.

Like, hopefully, like, they so young, hopefully they don't break them up thinking they need something new. I don't think they will. OKC, Orlando, and Cleveland. I think they, because these dudes, man, they winning, and I think it's... Like, Garland's a free... He's a free agent, right?

Nah, let me double check. I thought he re-signed. Oh, he re-signed? Let me see. Yeah, he's under contract through 2028. Donovan Mitchell's got a player option. Donovan Mitchell's got a player option 2027. Jared Allen signed 2029.

He just signed Mowgli. Oh, so they good. Mowgli through 2029. Yeah. So the only thing that's going to fuck them up is the role players, like Jared Allen and all of them. Yeah. But Jared Allen's there through 2020. I'm saying they've got.

Oh, they're starting five as well. They're four. Oh, they good. So Garland. So they've got. Are you backing LaVert? Let's see what his, what is LaVert's. And you get a young, do you get a.

LaVert be a free agent. First round pick. Yeah. Older. I'll go get an upperclassman. Yep. Right? Sure. Somebody that know how to play already, that's established in college.

I would pick my first round pick on that. Yep. Somebody who can just plug right in. Plug right in. Because you might lose somebody in free agent. So it's. What's so funny? This is an offense.

Zach Eady. Oh, 100%. 100%. Instead of Jared? They don't play fast like that, but like... Duck ends. Duck ends and going to the post. Oh, 100%. Doghouse.

Jared down there all the time. Oh, let's talk a little Celtics side. So, like I mentioned, Celtics were without Jalen Brown, who some people on this couch consider to be their number one option, and Derek White, but led by as much as 14 in the second half, 12 in that fourth quarter before Donovan Mitchell's fourth quarter explosion. Does anyone in the league have a five-man unit that can match up with the Porzingis,um Brown White Holiday starting five?

Healthy? Healthy. One through five? I mean they have a real big three that is a big three like together they're a big three because Porzingis averaged 20 last year right? Yeah so they got a big three all averaging 20 and then your two role players are Playing all all NBA defense. Yeah Both of them What the hell Yeah, they got the best start yeah the best Who's the clothes like that like they don't even have a win. Think about it. Who's their weak link?

The weak link is all defensive player? What would the Sixers lineups be? Was that Embiid, Maxie, PG? Who would 3-4? Don't know. Let's just say Drummond is in there. No. No.

Drummond in there 4-5? Not because you're talking about the weakest link. He ain't started. White was a defensive player. What did he do?

I think all defense last year. Yeah so their weakest player is all defense. Yeah. Yeah. There's no

close. And Pritchard is a monster off the field. P-Rabbit. He's a monster too. There's no close not with a starting five. And Horford.

I mean, you're talking about impact. Like, the two weak ones are impacted. Somebody messing with them. Yeah. It's not a close second, either. Yeah, that's what I said. It's not a close second. Not a close second around the league.

All right. Starting five, no. Damn. This reminds me of goddamn Detroit Pistons, too. Where you have, like, literally, you got five guys that the weakest one is Tayshaun, and we know what he was on defense. But then you had Antonio McDyess off the bench. You had, uh...

Like, the two Wallace boys, they were dominant bigs at what they did. They had a bunch of motherfuckers on that team. And it's rare when you got a starting five. Chad is saying Mavs, Suns, Healthy Thunder. Mavs starting five? No. Mavs, Suns, Healthy Thunder match up.

So they're the weakest. Some of the phone nicks out there. Don't match up with Prazingis. Yeah. You're talking about the worst player. When we talk about the worst player, you're talking about Yeah. You're talking about the worst player. Like, when we talk about the worst player, you're talking about Derek White. Derek White is the worst player.

Some in the chat seem to think the Knicks also have a chance with Derek. Derek White versus... I get it. Derek White, all NBA defense versus Josh Hart. Mitchell Robinson. Mitchell Robinson. Healthy Mitchell Robinson. They don't have him.

Cat. Cat. Przingis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your second best player or first best player is knocking out their third. Yeah. I mean, you haven't mentioned Jalen Brown or Jason Taylor at all. At all. Your second best player, this is their third, like 20 and 10.

Like talent? Jesus Christ. Yeah, they got too much talent over there. I'm just. Too much. And they play together. That's the crazy part. You know how to play together. Detroit Pistons.

Who else had a team like this? Because when Boston... The Laker team? No. The Laker team? No, not even Boston. Lakers 0-4. 0-4 Lakers.

Sacramento. They had a very solid team. Peja. Peja. But Vlade was the weakest. He was the oldest. He was the weakest. Doug Christie was the weakest.

Both of them. I'm just thinking of teams that... Yeah, Vlade was probably... But Vlade was bad, bad. It was just because he was old. Yeah, he was older. But no, no, no. Brad Miller stepped in on that team. It was Brad, bad. It was just because he was old. Yeah, he was older. But no, no, no. Brad Miller stepped in on that team.

It was Brad, Chris, Tasia. No, Brad started that year. Brad was playing. But Brad wasn't Brad. After Vladi, that year, they lost to the Lakers. He came in. They picked up the slack with Brad. Like, who matches that, that they're dominant all at the same time?

It's tough, bro. Unfortunate. Because when you go- When you go- When you go Warriors? When you go Warriors, but they're five man. Bogut? No, not that here. With the KD staff? With the KD staff.

That's- who's the five? Spates? Spates? Spates? No. No. Okay, I'll tell you about the closing line. Who is that? Who's the five? Spates. Spates? No. No. Okay, I'll tell you about the closing line.

Who is that? Who's the five? See, that's his number right there. Is he? That's his Zili? No. Was it Looney? Looney, right? Looney, yeah. UCLA Bruin, Milwaukee legend. See, that's the problem.

Like, their five is an all-defense first team. Second team, like, yikes. They're five as an all-defense first team. Second team, yikes. It's unfortunate. Yeah. Wish we could have that. It's for them. Must be nice. Must be nice.

You got to win it now. Yeah. You got to win it now. You can't fall short. Still, Lakers are six, but could be six games, could be six years. You never know. But let's move on to most of them. Oh, McGee be six games, could be six years. You never know. But let's move on to most of them.

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I'm like, nah. Bro, which one? What, Spurs? Yeah. I don't know. They four-man always was whoever usually was a four to five. Yeah. Bonner, Splitter.

Whatever one. Diao. The one, yeah. Morris. Yeah, the new one. So our first question from, ooh. Yeah, I'm thinking that. Sons.

Amari. Amari them. With Morris. Tim Thomas Amari? Tim. Amari was the five, right? Tim was the four. Jason, uh, Richardson was the three.

Joe Johnson was the two. It depends on what year. The 05 year. Tim came on in year... They're talking about that year Boogie got hurt that year with that... Boogie who? ... cousin with that Warrior starting five. Oh, Boogie was there.

But he was there for better. But it was JaVale. No, no, who? No. Phoenix. Was it Matrix the four? Yes. Was it Matrix the four? Tim Thomas come off the bench.

Amari, Matrix. Right, we got Steve Nash. Richardson and Joe Johnson. Q. Q. Rich and Joe Johnson. Yeah. First year? Yeah. Q. Rich, Joe Johnson, Matrix, Amari, Q. Rich, Nash.

Yes. That's it. Ooh. N Yeah. It's Joe Johnson, Matrix, Omari, Q-Rich, Nash. Yes. That's it. Ooh. Nasty. I like that. I like that with Matrix. All-star, two big all-stars. So your weakest link is Q-Rich?

Q-Rich. Q-Rich. He was perfect for that. Yeah. Joe Johnson is a wild card. Old school Clippers, but they was all young, so that is a wild card. Old school Clippers, but they was all young, so that don't even matter. Mike Moore or McKendree?

Yeah, he would have been a weak sleep. Sure. First question is from Underdog User, JMF Dub. He said, if you could score 60 against any team, who would it be? We already know you did that against the Lakers, so it has to be another team for you. But if you could score 60 against any team, who would it be? We already know you did that against the Lakers, so it has to be another team for you. But if you can score six against any team, who would it be?

And who would it be on? I'm going to add a little layer to it. Right now? The Bucs. Motherfucking Bucs. In Milwaukee, goddammit. That's an evil laugh, yo. That's an evil laugh. Very evil.

I don't know if y'all know. Y'all got to go back and watch. I even, during the game, I even flicked Doc off. Like, I was that hot But there was a game where me and Paul Pierce was going at it and I hit a shot and gave him both birds That's how hot it's been brewing for a long time. Okay, can you and doc more likely you and doc? It just it was just was it again so more likely a relationship repair, you and Doc or you and Kwame? Oh, Kwame's easier, that was easier. You're our buddies?

Yeah, that was easier. So you're not mending it, you're not mending it with Doc? You got to forgive, Gil. No, no, no, no, because that was an emotion then, right? It kind of helped me, like, So I had to use certain faces, and his was one of the faces. Oh, the water boy. Yeah, yeah.

Water boy sucks. He was there. Water boy sucks. It really, really sucks. Fucking water boy. You never know where this show is going to go. If you score 16 against any team, it could be current, past.

Oh man, that's easy. Watch the Wizards. Cuban Arenas. What? Gas chamber city all night long. 60-60-60. Not LeBron? No, fuck LeBron.

Shit. It's age of zero, shit. It's 60. I wanna see the look on his face. He's like, ah. Shit. It's 60. I want to see the look on his face. He won't play tomorrow. I thought you were going to be malicious and say you want to score 60 on Bronny. No. A man of the people.

You can't guess my moves. Unpredictable. That'd be all. Everybody would be watching that game. I beat Gilbert in the shootout. I beat Gilbert in the shootout so bad he ain't bringing it up no more. There has been no more talk about Gilbert's shootout bad he ain't bringing it up no more. There has been no more talk about gilding shootouts. He ain't bringing it up no more. Let me get my 60 and I'll go ahead and get in my own coffin

and go ahead and buy my business. Upper room. The upper room. KD, if you scored 60 against any team, who would it be? Pick one. Damn. 60 is 60. Nah, it's a 60. It's a 60. There's a white man coaching. There might not be a team, but I know who got to be coaching another team.

Oh yeah. You can put it on your petty brain for it. Absolutely. Both of y'all. Absolutely. Yeah, you got the big fun. And the horse that he rode in on. I'm with you. And the horse that he rode in on. And the horse that he rode in on. Absolutely. 60 on your ass. For sure.

Why he on the horse? Every play. Every play. Every play. Yeah, because it was two game-winning plays when I was with the Clippers. As soon as I left there and we went back to Denver, I got a tip in on one end and a game-winning block on the other end.

Oh, yeah. So that's the equivalent of scoring 60. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? Your ass about to get changed. Yeah. I feel like I should sit out of here. It was a tip.

I ain't no tip dunk. It was just a tip in. Like, the game, they were trying to block me. Give me that. Yeah, it was all the young boys. And Pulisado? I don't know if I did or if I did. I should have. Oh!

Yeah, then a block on the other end for game. So you know it's good because he like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, now that you say it. Now that y'all got it. You get a whole 60 on that. Now that you brought it up. I'd love to have 60 on that in the same game. Yeah, but I didn't say anything.

It was, yeah, I kicked his ass in the playoffs before when he was with Milwaukee. So, yeah, put them out the playoffs when I was with the Nets. Yeah, so there's the... He was talking shit in the paper after the end. Yeah, so, yeah, it was, yeah. So, you right.

Okay. All right, respect. Makes sense. Makes sense. So, that's our show for today, but I got a quick announcement. We are extending our sweater design contest a little longer. You've got until midnight et tonight That is midnight et tonight December 2nd to send them to mostly fans gill at gmail.com and will announce a winner in the near future

We're gonna have those Christmas sweaters up on the site very soon as well we've been We've been fucking it up with the gaming. God let them know that they don't get in on this gaming shit. It's gonna be a wrap for them. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This Madden... standings that I have in Madden right now, it's pretty strong. Okay. Pretty strong. We got gaming on the horizon.

So I asked for a game. You said your systems was down. Yeah, it was. My systems was down. My systems was down. I had won too many games. It was like... You know what I mean? You need to cool the game off. It said, cool it off. Cool it off. So, listen, chat, I still ain't... Listen, I've played two games.

All the games they play, won't nobody play. Tell them what game it is. Nah. I often play Man 2. Won't nobody play college. I play whatever, except for that. I just don't got... Ain't nobody... Ain't nobody. My game now.

My game now. College game. Ain't nobody that. They running from this smoke. Call of Duty. Right. Mortal Comeback. Undisputed.

2K. So, like right now we're all trying to perfect our games. We all trying to get good. Everybody's trying to get really good. Don't nobody want to play me and mine. No, we gonna wait. You see, you the oldest. You already got, you already up here. You're in hierarchy.

I got plays I just can't show. I see what you're doing. I got a play that he ain't used to yet. You see he get maestro. Maestro, where you at? I got to work out shit.

Nobody said Kenyon yet. Nobody said Kenyon. You don't lie? You don't lie? What's up? Ain't nobody asked me yet. I got to work you out. Nobody said Kenyon. You don't lie? You don't lie. What's up? Ain't nobody asked me yet. I got to work you out. I got to say, BJ, where your ass at? I'm going to whop you again. Who want their ass whooped?

Who want their ass whooped? I had to tell Gil, listen, Gil, people with their family, dog. Straight up. Day before Thanksgiving, who want their ass whooped? Who want their ass whooped? Don't nobody respond. Oh, y'all scared now? I said, no, they with their family. He said, oh, y'all don't want to get your ass whooped in front of them?

In front of them? You can't win. Try that Disney with his people and this dude just talk to them. I went. That's where all the work at, man. You want to see work pushing the stroller, man. You get a lot what I work at man. You won't work No word listen, but nobody said can you on the game?

They're afraid I'm gonna say it today don't worry I realized like my ladies work Real good. If you don't know I play I can get all of shits off. Oh, I just started realize I only got four Big with Nikki stupid so they're all new four plays every time Yeah, but for some of them you beat him said we beat him 72 72 does that roll any you post? That's why I'm like what and no he quit still see that's why I asked y'all don't just go to this 21 Nothing. I still had three more minutes to play. So yeah, it's 65. No way you get to 70, bro Oh, I know where you go say 70 to zero

Four games cuz it became the one thing I know I got a score No, I got a score like you got a score. No, we're not finna keep playing. Oh, y'all haven't played Nick yet No, I'm I'm three, you know He gets one play 12 yards hell yeah, you can't stop me and And then he's going to try to throw the same play. Intercept. Intercept. I'm sorry, bro. You can't do that again. Why?

Throw the same play. You know exactly who he's going to. Thank you. Let's bet money next time. Hey, Nick, let's bet some money next time. That's what y'all are letting the chat now. I heard somebody say let's bet. Yeah, that's what we're doing. Let's bet some money now, bro.

Do the higher lowers. Higher lowers. This is a big W, bro. He said do the brackets, though. That was saying let's bet. Yeah, let's bet some money now, bro. We'll do higher lowers. Higher lower brackets. This is big W, bro. He said do the brackets, though. That was a nice little idea. Nick, lower 0.5 points. Doesn't seem like one of you will win. Take that lower.

Hey, take the higher lower. The funny part, it was 50-0 first. Then the next day was 72-0. Got too much time. But we will have the gaming practice soon. Appreciate all y'all. Appreciate our crew for these lovely holiday decorations. Beginning to look a lot like Kwanzaa out here.

Uh-oh. I don't... Yeah. You got to find your sound. That's all. I don't... Just find your sound. Wait.

Let's see. Let's check. Still not. You got to find it. Still haven't found it. Still haven't located it. I've been hitting the curls and everything, but... You got to find some seasoning. You got to find seasoning for the food. You got to find it. You got to find it. Still haven't located it. I've been hitting the curls and everything. You got to find some seasoning.

You got to find seasoning for the food. You got to find the sound. You got to find the sound. But this has been another episode. Wait, before we wrap it up, make sure you pull up to our playback watch party tonight. Playback.tv slash Gilbert Arena. This will be on at 5 o'clock to watch the Lakers beat the Wolves

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