Gil's Arena - Jimmy Butler's INDEFINITE Suspension BLOWS UP Gil's Arena

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Jimmy Butler's INDEFINITE Suspension BLOWS UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Jimmy Butler getting suspended by The Miami Heat INDEFINITELY after skipping out on Monday's... shootaround. They break down what this means for Jimmy's Miami Heat future before reactiong to Anthony Davis publicly pleading for the Lakers to get an established big man to bolster their lineup and debate if the Lakers recent wins over the Boston Celtics & Golden State Warriors did enough to prove that AD, LeBron James and the rest of the Lakers squad deserve some help from the front office in their playoff push. Some help for the Lakers could be closer to home however as Gil & the Crew react to Bronny James' Career High 31 Points for the South Bay Lakers and discuss how his game is progressing during his time in the G-League before reacting to another NBA son's viral highlights with the arena's very own Alijah Arenas ahead of a very special announcement. Next, Gil's Arena react to the report of Anthony Edwards reaching out to Michael Jordan for advice on how to beat a double team and break down how the GOAT's advice is changing Ant-Man's game. Please leave us a like and subscribe!!!  Gil's Arena Crew - Josiah Johnson, Gilbert Arenas, Nick Young, Brandon Jennings & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/  Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Cash and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena USE Code GIL for $20 off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL To get $15 off your first order and find out if prescription Ro Sparks are right for you. Connect with a provider at https://ro.co/GIL SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:08 Rashad's Perfect Super Bowl Prediction 0:08:44 Bronny Drops Career High 31 Points 0:18:19 Alijah Arenas' POSTER Dunk 0:45:07 Lakers Take Down Celtics & Warriors 0:48:13 Anthony Davis Begs The Lakers For a 5 1:00:11 Alijah Arenas McDonalds All American Announcement 1:09:29 Jimmy Butler Suspended INDEFINITELY 1:33:02 Ant-Man Asks MJ How To Break A Double Team 2:06:36 Bleacher Reports Midseason NBA Grade 2:21:41 Is Paul George A 1st Ballot HoF? 2:29:23 Jimmy Butler Keeps Trolling 2:34:36 MostlyFans 2:44:26 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:51 delivery fees on your first three orders. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. Instacart. Groceries that over-deliver. Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa! A glorious Monday here in the arena. Got a full couch, a lot of things to discuss.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Some football going on this weekend. Some of our teams made it, some of them didn't. How you feeling, Cemetery Larry? Eagle, eagle, eagle. Fly, eagles, fly. Huh? Gilly, gilly, gilly, what up? You know them eagles flying out there? Gilly, Philly.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Gilly turned up in Philly in the locker room. Yeah, Gilly, Philly, that's what they call it. Y'all got your ass whooped. I got my ass beat. I went to bed. Yeah, I already knew it was that. I took a nap. Who? That team, the Red Commanders, as you call it.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Yeah, the Commanders got their ass whooped. The Reds, baby. We good. We good. Huh, DC? Stand up. They beat the Commanders out of that motherfucker, huh? Hmm.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Just the Reds left. Just the Reds, baby. Got a big Super Bowl coming up. We're gonna talk about it more in a second. But this is Gil Zarina presented by Underdog. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Reynos here with us. All right, little. What y'all doing? What y'all doing? Oh, y'all a little late on the clap.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Y'all a little late on the clap. Okay. It is Monday. Get y'all a pass., y'all a little late on the clap. Y'all a little late on the clap. They forgot. They forgot. Okay. It is Monday. Get y'all a pass. Huh? You look a little skinny today. I ain't gonna lie to you. You look a little skinny today. I ain't gonna lie to you. Being nice. Man. Look at y'all.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Taking that. Making up after last week. You know he a friend. No, wifey thinks. I don't know. She just thinks that I won't take a challenge and get abs. She said you gotta get on that V12. I was a professional athlete at the high level. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Challenges is all I want. Oh, that's why you getting the shit. Yeah. What's the reward? What's the reward? I hope I get the cheat, but I doubt it. I hope not. I'm just gonna sit on the couch with motherfucking abs.
Starting point is 00:03:07 A permitted cheat. Just be fit on a couch and shit. That was the reward? You already married. I know, man. You get to nothing, man. What the fuck am I getting abs for, baby? I got you. That's what I'm saying. You ain't going nowhere, abs or not.
Starting point is 00:03:21 What the fuck am I getting this shit for? If you leave me, shit, I get back in shape to get whatever's coming next. Man. That's part of the game. I get in the gym, you get in the kitchen. Ooh, shit, you got the cook now. A transactional exchange.
Starting point is 00:03:35 We got NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P, Nick Young, back in the house. They got your sound effect right, Swag? You know what I mean? But they mean you got beats, though. What I do? We play all night. It's Monday.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Hey, what's the sound effect? Let me hear that again. And I want my money, too. That's Stone Cold. UCLA, USC on a Monday feels blasphemous, but that's Big Ten basketball. I thought that was just somebody breaking into his house. That is. That's nasty.
Starting point is 00:04:02 They don't love us like that. I thought it was just somebody breaking into his house. Oh, Lord. Can I get my money? You can into his house. That's nasty. They don't love us like that. I thought it was just somebody breaking into his house. Oh, Lord. Can I get my money? Can Swaggy get his money? He whooped y'all ass this week.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Anybody got a hundo? Crystal, you got a hundo? I'll take some shots if you want to do that instead. Oh, well. You know what I'm saying. Like, you came with Ken, Ken here your money. Like, come on. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:04:30 All I'm saying is- Ken gave me money. No, no, no. Ken gave me money. He said he ain't scared of you. Yeah, like- No, he gave me money. No, he gave me money.
Starting point is 00:04:38 All I'm saying, you came here. I got 300. Swag, it sound like you getting stack housed right now. Man. Sound like you getting stack housed. I just need 100, I need to pay Nick. Who got 100? Would you hold up?
Starting point is 00:04:51 Give it back. Look at you, baller. What we got to do for this? You want to hand it to me? I'll let you hand it to me. There it is. All right, here you go. Even.
Starting point is 00:05:02 And we got a guarantee bet, too. OK. Come on, he going to give you go. Even. And we got a guarantee bet, too. OK. Come on, he going to give you back. Damn, man. He's going to give me my money back. That was bad. Damn. This is tough out here.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I see. Golly. You ain't even to a call to the broke boy. He's trying to take it back. He's trying to take it back. Here, broke boy. I got money for you. I give it back.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Right? I give it back. And I want you to be broke forever. I don't want you to have no money. On this side of the couch, we got two legends in the building, representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University. We got Mr. B, Brandi Jennings.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Bucks was looking good till they came to Englewood. The Bucks was looking good till they came to Englewood. Yeah, man. It's all good, though. Cliff was all right. Cliff out, too? Uh-uh. The Intuit Dome, the home court,
Starting point is 00:05:48 and the man known as Cemetery Larry, Rashad McCants is in the building. Trash. Oh. Oh, man. Wow. I can mix it up on him. Do it again, Sean.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Do it again. Do it again. Whoo! Do it again, Sean. I mean, that's what they again, Sean. Do it again. Do it again. Do it again, Sean. Sean, do it again. He's fucking up in the back. The back is acknowledging they're fucked up. Please do it again.
Starting point is 00:06:13 One more time. Please, one more time. They got it right now. I can't let you go out like that. We here. Y'all think y'all can do this shit to me? Y'all think y'all
Starting point is 00:06:23 can do this to me? Damn, that's crazy. I started this shit. Yes, you did. You did. Shoe program. That's crazy. Family barbecue business.
Starting point is 00:06:32 This is how y'all treat me. Can we give Sean his proper sound effect, please? No. I appreciate that. He still went back at the camera. We gonna have a talk after this. Hey, uh, Carter hit the wrong button. He was like, Oh, man. Are we doing that? Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:52 All of them in the back were like, no, not us. Since everybody on the couch got a sound effect, I need one, too. Hold on. Let me see if it's working yet. That's a little better, then. A little doorbell, huh? Is that Taco Bell? I've been exercising. Do it again. I've been exercising.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Taco Bell. Somebody getting fired today. It's been nice knowing you. But we got to talk again about that Super Bowl. Shai, your current favorite team, the Eagles. Your former favorite team, the Chiefs. Super Bowl rematch. Chiefs trying to three-peat.
Starting point is 00:07:29 First team in modern NFL history to do so. Shad Stradamus. Per usual. We make the picks. The picks listen and they come true because they don't want to be in the wrath of the king. Okay? Yeah, you six for six now.
Starting point is 00:07:48 It's cool. But you picked the wrong football team, guy. Who in the championship? Tell him. Tell him. Both of my teams. Playing in, you know who's going to be in the championship this year in the NBA? Both of my teams.
Starting point is 00:08:00 The Knicks? Who you pick? Both of my teams. The Knicks going to the finals? Knicks. What's wrong with this guy? Yeah, Knicks versus who? Who's the other team? Who's your other team?
Starting point is 00:08:08 Who's your Western Conference? I was just, I just... Nuggets. Pfft. Sean has officially picked the Nuggets as the Western Conference team. Wait, what? I know when he's high with you. I can't believe you said that.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I don't know. I can't believe you said that. Knicks, Nuggets. In the finals? Yup. Yikes. That's nasty for Spokane. Hey, listen, we've already accepted that the West
Starting point is 00:08:33 is going to make it nasty. Who's the top four teams in the West? It's going to be nasty regardless who make it. Lakers. Everybody that's good at top, they at the bottom. So we got to settle for OKC, Denver, Houston. Shout out to the city you haven't mentioned yet. Clippers nice, bro.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Clipper. I say the Clippers. The Clippers nice. The Clippers nice at what? They got a nice arena. They got a nice arena. They got a nice arena. I watched them against Boston and Milwaukee.
Starting point is 00:08:59 They got a nice arena. They got a nice arena. They do have a nice arena. They got my jersey in the arena, so I'm good. It's nice. I mean, I ain't even know. I need to get a ticket. They got my jersey in the arena, so I'm good. It's nice. I mean, I ain't even know. I need to get a ticket. They got yours in the arena?
Starting point is 00:09:06 What? Your jersey. Cleveland High School? Ah. Mm. All right. They got Jerome Farmhorns there. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:09:14 They got all the high schools? Yeah, they got all the high schools. If you a somebody. Of course mine's up there. If you a somebody. Of course mine's up there. Your shit should be there. Of course mine's up there.
Starting point is 00:09:23 It's not, though. They said Trevor Wilson. They gave Trevor Wilson the nod over here. You ain't seen it. Mine's up there. It's not though. They said Trevor Wilson. They gave Trevor Wilson the nod over here. You ain't seen it? No. We both don't know, motherfucker. No, I do know.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Mine's up there. No, Taff is up there. Jordan Farmer is up there. Mine is up there. Oh. And mine. The Collins twins. And mine.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Damn. They said Trevor Wilson got the nod from Cleveland Hodge. Damn. Former UCLA Bruin legend. That's crazy. Collins? You think they be next to the Cleveland High School. Damn. Former UCLA Bruin legend. That's crazy. Collins? You think they'll be next to the Collins?
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah. You up there? You say yeah, too. I knew it. You was in middle school when that happened. I knew it. Man. You want to be next to the Collins?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Won't they? Come on, man. You talking about me? Aren't they team top five? They still cool dudes, man. Top five in college? They're still cool people, man. Harvard Westlake.
Starting point is 00:10:04 Their high school team is top five in the... Nick, we know They still cool dudes, man. They're still cool people, man. Harvard Westlake. Their high school team is top five in the... Nick, we know what you're saying, man. I know what I'm saying. He's still doing it. No, no, no. I don't know what I'm saying. It's okay. I know what he's saying, but it's...
Starting point is 00:10:15 Okay, then. It's still 50-50. We're going to keep it positive on the Lord's Monday. It's 50-50. I'm like, stop. For all the fans out there, we still got two viewing options. Four of our traditional versions, mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Lakers smack the Celtics and Warriors in back-to-back games. Thank you, Gil. Sound effect. I hear it one more time, please. Double smack in the knee. But will they make a move to give AD the help he needs before the deadline?
Starting point is 00:10:44 I like that. The help he needs. He needs it. That's a nice set of narratives. He needs it. He done been telling y'all for a while he don't want to play this five. He been telling y'all for a while. Somebody better listen. Look at the nasty LeBron he got.
Starting point is 00:10:54 He sick. Come on. Hey, you know what shoe he used to wear when he was good? When he was good? Yeah, when he was good. Stop it. He balling right now. Hey, Bron got them Crip Blues on? Woo, when he was good. Stop it. He balling right now. Hey, Bron got them Crip Blues on.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Woo! Those look kind of hot. I know. So Ant-Man reached out to MJ for advice on double teams and has been cooking ever since. Can Ant get the Wolves back amongst the top teams in the West, though? We need to discuss. And we got to talk about another team in California, the Warriors, 10-20 in their last 30 games.
Starting point is 00:11:27 What do the Dubs need to do to do right by Steph? He said, y'all don't got a mortgage on future for now, but it's getting real nasty out there in the Bay. Ooh. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead, download the app, use promo code GIL, get up $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em,
Starting point is 00:11:44 and the best app for your big game party on your phone. That's right. All your friends could be feasting on Underdog. Ride together on stats like passing yards, first TDs, interceptions, and so much more. If you or your friends haven't joined Underdog yet, get on there and use promo code GIL so we can get that bonus. You already know. And you get $1,000 bonus cash plus a special pick-em. As for tonight, GIL has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Let us take a look. GIL, you got Donovan Mitchell higher, 19.5 points. Hell yeah. You got LeBron James higher, 5.5 rebounds. They are at the Hornets. You got Zion higher, 5.5 rebounds. Pelicans at the Raptors. And DeMontis a bonus, higher, 14.5 points.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Kings take on the Nets. I'm either gonna go 4-0 or 3-0, and the only one that might not make it will be Zion if he don't play. Yeah, I was about to say, yeah. If he don't play, that's it. Good. Everybody else is good, though. Three times the bread on four picks?
Starting point is 00:12:38 You're very conservative with your pick of me. Yeah. I will just say that. Yeah, those are all easy ones. Yeah. Easy work. I don't know what y'all be trying to do, but I be trying to get the win. I try to get the duh, honey. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:12:52 I want to collect my dollars to make them holla. How much you bet? Like $10 a gift? Never leaving with the bad. $8,000 a gift. I bet a hundred. I went 200. He ain't never leaving with the bad.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Cemetery Larry, can you share with us? How about speaking on the street? I'm not. Your mic is on. The chat can hear you already. I't never dealing with the bad. Let me tell you, can you share with us? I'm not. Your mic is on. The chat can hear you already. I've got times in a thousand. I know, I know, man.
Starting point is 00:13:11 What does that mentality get you? What does that type of mentality with the pickups get you? Yeah. Go ahead, tell them. Break it down. If I get one more drink, I'm leaving with you. You're not leaving with the pickups. That's a ring, too. That's a leaving with her. That's a vanguard. That's a vanguard.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yeah, that's a luter. That's the kind of attitude you get when you just settle for it. You'll settle for the ugly girl. Are you just settling for it? No. You ain't going for the baddest one. I'm like a businessman. I'm not like a drug dealer. I'm like a business.
Starting point is 00:13:38 So you want people to know for sure. Times two. Listen, I'm just trying to times it. About 25%. 10%, 25%. I'm not trying to double. 25% 10% 25. I'm not trying to double that's how you get fucked up You're trying to take your one dollar turn it into two dollars turn it into four dollar now Just give me the consistent 10 to 25% over the long haul. Oh, I'm a billionaire you in jail 20 to life
Starting point is 00:14:03 So see that girl all the time. Uh-huh. You see that girl all the time, man. You see a vet, the girl you know you can't get to, you got to double, triple down on that. That's a gamble. I got the gamble. I need my times.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I need times 12 over there. Yeah, I know. I need times 3, 2. It's too easy. You just need one time, huh? Yeah. You see her. She's at the bodega.
Starting point is 00:14:23 You can get your big game of her any time. Hey, hey. That's the problem. Yeah, but when we go to the, you walk by the Louis Visto, you see her, she's smelling good. You can smell her from outside. He going to take the, mm. Smelling through the back.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I want to say something to you, but I'm at three. I'm at three multiplier. Yeah, he going to take the gamble, right? He going to take the gamble, right? Take that high gamble trying to get her. You're taking the safety. Okay, the safety's work. It's gonna add up. It's gonna... Right? Then eventually,
Starting point is 00:14:51 I come in with the new shit every goddamn week. There's gonna be some weeks where he be like, ah, damn. You know what I mean? You goddamn, baby. Stop saving up. I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask you. Hey, you got a couple dollars? Yeah, I got a couple, man. I'm about to go.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I'm about to go risk it all again. I can't be walking around here with these threes ask you. I'm gonna ask you. Hey, you got a couple dollars? I got a bet. I'm about to go risk it all again. I can't be walking around here with these threes with you. I'm going for this. One day, I'm gonna get it. One day, I'm gonna get it. One day, I'm gonna get it. But, look, I see you getting your easy shit on. I used to be with you. We used to be some 250s.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah, 250s. Yeah, we ain't jumping to them thousands 250s. We chill. We don't want the Bugattis. Give me a couple of these Hondas. We could. Get here and there. We jump into thousands We want to be on the news they want to See we don't know it too we get to see. They don't want to be seen, baby. So we asked the chat, are you riding or fading Gil's picks? Gil, 61% of the chat riding with your picks. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 00:15:52 61%? 61%. Can y'all show them my record? OK, we will get to that now. OK, got it. We have also started tracking picks since everybody got in on the partner pack. So let's take a look at the current standings.
Starting point is 00:16:04 You're 28 of 36. No, that's cap. I just went 11 and 2. What are you talking about? What are you talking about? No. Since Thursday, Friday, Saturday, I went 11 and 2. That's one.
Starting point is 00:16:14 That's one win. Hey, V, you ain't lost. You had one win. No, I ain't lost. That was your one day win. Okay, V. No. You need to start making your bets, Wax. Thursday, I went 3 and 1.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Friday, 3 and 0. 3 and 0, then 3-1 yesterday. I don't know what they doing. Well, we will send an update. I mean, that's where it's at, though. Kenyon at 80% correct picks. Shot at 86%. Mr. B, still 100%, still flawless.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Six for six. And is also one of the most bred. Nearly eight times. The bredest man with swag. You have yet to make a pick yet. I'm paying. Still boycotting the pick. I'm waiting.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Waiting? Yeah, waiting. I'm saving my money. Okay. Well, we need to get you in the mix. Swaggy got like $1,000. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:17:16 So we're going to start this show off in the G League with one player in particular, LeBron James Jr., also known as Bronny. Dropped a career-high 31 points in the South Bay Lakers' win over the Rip City remix on Friday.
Starting point is 00:17:28 But two points in particular had the entire basketball community buzzing and saying, boy, you look just like your daddy. So, let's take a look. Lay in the third quarter. Hit him with a nice cross. Whoa! Hey!
Starting point is 00:17:40 Go down the lane and delivered the poster dunk. Look at him. Look at him. Look at that. Look at the confidence he playing with. He got something in his nostril, but it's all good. Bloody nose and. We talked about that in the first half. Talked back on him.
Starting point is 00:17:55 He will go upstairs for his earring control. Delivered the facial. Ooh. Okay, and yes. Got the foul in the process. You see the face so, uh The pic I was reminiscent Of what his pop juice to do back
Starting point is 00:18:12 My father like son he got valentina's like this last week though That's an Allegra over the with a new that's the that's the just recent one. That's last week. That's 40 year old bro. Yeah and Young brownie father, like son. That's last week for real? Huh? That's last week? Yeah. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:18:30 So what was your reaction to Bronny's poster dunk and the work he's doing in the G League? I know previously you guys have said G League is a graveyard. Nah. But it feels different. Yeah. I mean, his confidence, right? I mean, like I said before, give it time. He's a young player. He's a 55th pick. Just give it time. He's a young player.
Starting point is 00:18:45 He's a 55th pick. Just give it time. Preach. You've been saying that. Preach. Give it time. You're putting so much pressure on a kid that's a 55th pick because of who his dad is. Just give it time, bro. He's hooping right now in the G League.
Starting point is 00:18:58 That's, I mean, if it was anybody else, we wouldn't even hear about the 55th pick, honestly. Don't even know. Nope. Wouldn't even know. I mean, actually, any of them. We don't even hear about them. So, I mean, I like it. I mean, I heard about the 55th pick honestly. Don't even know. Nope. Wouldn't even know. I mean actually any of them. We don't even hear about them. So I mean I like it. I mean.
Starting point is 00:19:07 You haven't heard about no second rounder yet. Not none of them. I like it bro. Not a dare done it. Not a dare done it. And how old is he? Huh? 20.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Oh he's only 20. Oh. Yeah. Young. Man. The confidence he's playing with now. I love it. And I honestly think he should.
Starting point is 00:19:24 They should throw him out there in the real games too now. It has been brownie time lately. I think what he's doing and the confidence he's showing and he's growing every game, I would throw him out there before Gabe Vinson. Ooh. What is he averaging right now in the G League? 17, 18. So I'm glad you asked.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So he had that 31-point career high that surpasses his previous career high of 30, he said, back in December. 10 for 22 in that game, 5 for 11 from deep. In his seven G League games this season, Brownies averaged 16 points, 4.2 rebounds, 4.2 assists, 27 minutes per game. And you don't hear people talking negative or just don't say anything, saying nothing. Nothing.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Them bitch-ass niggas out there ain't saying nothing now. That's the crazy part. They are not. I have not heard a bitch-ass n-word say anything. They rent all them narratives about the... What was that fucking word they started using, that white man word? Nepo? Nepotism.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Huh? They started using that white man big word. I just heard it for the first time when he got drafted. Never heard that word before ever. Nepotism. Yeah. Now they want to use it against the black man. He had to Google it.
Starting point is 00:20:34 What the fuck is that? Now look at him. Nobody want to say nothing. Yeah. No second rounder. You haven't heard about no second rounder at all. You barely hear about the lottery picks in the NBA right now. You don't know if they're doing good or bad, right?
Starting point is 00:20:52 But you threw so much dirt and energy on his name that some of these guys haven't even got in the game. He only has two points, and he still has more points than damn near most of the first round. Ooh. But there's no pressure on him because their dad is not famous. Mm.
Starting point is 00:21:10 You want to penalize him because of his... because you can't get at his dad's legacy? That's crazy. That is crazy. Uh, Mr. Cemetery Lair, I saw you sipping your beverage. Uh, you've been a little quiet on this side of the couch. My eyes got big. What the hell? If you can hide, you've been a little quiet on this side of the couch. My eyes got big. What the hell? If you can hide, you can hear.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I'm sipping my, because I'm sipping my drink. You're not. You took a little sip. I mean. Are you rolling with Bronny's poster dunk in his G League career thus far? He got a little, got a little something right there. Well, now that we got that cleared up. Okay, we're not going to do none of that over here.
Starting point is 00:21:53 So, it's a good day, you know? It's a good day. It is a good day. It's a good day. Good day. It's a good day. Yo. It's a good day.
Starting point is 00:22:03 You can see these days in college. I would like to see these college days. I was going to ask you that. I'm still going to stand on that. I. It's a good day. You could see these days in college. I would like to see these college days. I was going to ask you that. I'm still going to stand on that. I was going to ask you that. Do you feel like he still should have went back to college? Absolutely. Because this day that we're praising can be a week or a month in college,
Starting point is 00:22:18 killing, dominating, establishing himself to be the number one pick in the upcoming draft. Because that's what he's shining himself to do right now. He's showing, oh, yeah, look, it's promising. Look, we're saying give him time. Yeah, man, he could have been the number one pick this year. We didn't even talk about those second round. Who looking for a second round pick?
Starting point is 00:22:40 Shaw, you feel like Bronny could have been, if he went to college, he could have been in the discussion for the number one pick over Cooper Flagg. If he's playing like he's playing now. Over Cooper Flagg? If he's playing like he's playing now. And the kid, that's... How is he playing right now? Confident.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Confidence. What did you just say? You throw him out there in front of who? Davis. All right. Cooper Flagg ain't like that. Where he can't get no competition from Bronny James who played a good first season Had a hard situation
Starting point is 00:23:08 You say his potential is upside give him a chance out there to college rounds like Cooper get to do his thing Let Brown to go out there do his thing man. I prefer he'd be top five top ten for sure. Mm-hmm For sure, just name alone. Like you say you sell them jerseys. That mean you got eyes on him So one year going from the 55th pick to Demi Lovato. One more year of college, he can go top five. I think people would have got bored of him. If Castle stayed one more year, does he go number one? No.
Starting point is 00:23:38 He probably could have got worse. He probably could have went back further. Or he would have went number one because they go repeat again. They win another championship for UConn. We're talking about potential. Shot is not about who's good. It's who do they think is going to be good in a few years. Potential.
Starting point is 00:23:55 So when you're talking about Cooper Flagg, he's 17 turning 18, right? So he's 18 now, 6'10". So they can put him at any position. So you got to think about the multiple position type of players. Bronny's a 6'2 shooting guard. He will have to transfer into a pure point and let the point guard position be your dominance because of your athleticism.
Starting point is 00:24:22 As a shooting guard, you're undersized. You're just an average player as A point guard your top five in athleticism is you John Moran Fox you? Who else what what are the point guards got bouncing fast twitch muscles like hmm Young fella in Portland fast twitch muscles like that. All right. Hmm? I don't know. Not this. Oh, oh, oh. Young fella in Portland. School? School. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:24:50 So he's top five? He's top five just in his measurements. He's a point guard? Yeah. He's like, yeah. I mean, so... One, two. He had a good...
Starting point is 00:24:58 He had a good... Like I said... He had a good day. He had a good day. He's had a few good days. A few good days. He's averaging 16. I think G League better for him than college. I don't. I don't.
Starting point is 00:25:08 I don't. And the fact that y'all pushing... The fact that y'all pushing, like, the G League is a place where a guy like him wants to be. No, we don't say he wants to be there, but he needs to, and I feel like he's benefiting from it. But the reason he needs to is because what? He has a lack of what? For me, I think it was more confidence than anything. If you're dealing with the pressure of everybody talking negative about you, and now that you're in this place where you can just be free and be you, and all eyes is off you, I think that's why.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Confidence is not coming from the people. The confidence is coming from your lack of play. You're not playing enough basketball for you to build confidence. You build confidence in college by playing. As an 18-year-old, anything you do is going to be critiqued and talked about. It's hard to play under that type of pressure. That's the game. That's the game you chose to play. These are the rules of our game.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Criticism, family, girls, college. You still need a chance to grow. We never giving him a chance. No, we are giving him a chance. He chose to not take that chance. That chance was four years of college. You talk about growing. And you skipped out on four years of growth. So don't give me
Starting point is 00:26:13 the excuse that now that you're there, I need to grow more and I need more time. No, bro. That's not how it works. People forget about it. I get it. But they're not going to forget about... He's done. They're not going to forget about Bron Cooper's last day in college for three years. He's done. He's done. Listen, like we said,
Starting point is 00:26:26 they're not going to forget about Bronny James because he's LeBron James' son. Yeah. Regardless of how long he stay there, they're not going to forget about him.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Now, his play may make you not look at him as a player like that if he don't deliver. But like you said, if he's going to progress like he has from the beginning
Starting point is 00:26:42 of the season to now, if he was in college and he's progressing at this rate, by the beginning of the season to now, if he was in college and he's progressing at this rate, by the end of the season, he might take his team to the championship. College is different than... Would he progress at this rate being in college? Yes, I believe so. He gets to practice, play with the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:26:57 He gets to play. How good is SC men's basketball? Uh, trash. Fuck me. Wait, wait, wait, wow. Come on. All right, we all right. We ain't got no names like that, but we all Man. Wait, wait, wait. Wow. Come on. We all right.
Starting point is 00:27:07 We all right. We ain't got no names like that, but we all right. We'll find out tonight. We'll find out tonight. Yeah. We'll see what's coming. We'll see. But I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I just think this year right now with his dad being with him and what he's around, you can't get that in college, man. Yeah, you can't. And your dad is still playing at a high level. And you still in the G League. I'm still with my dad though every day. Like I'm still... That was a part of the plan. But I'm in the G League? I'm still with my dad though every day. Like I'm still- That was a part of the plan.
Starting point is 00:27:26 But I'm in the G League playing. What do you think college is for? Get away from your parents, bro. Get the fuck away. Learn how to live on your own, bro. No, I will. No, you not. I will.
Starting point is 00:27:36 You not. You don't even go on, you wasn't even going on the road with us first. He said shit, he has made some road trips with the Gs. I was in the G League. What does that have to do with anything? Wasn't even going on the road, that's at first. I mean, what that got to do with...
Starting point is 00:27:48 Getting out on your own, man. Be on your own. I am. I am. I'm in the G-League. My dad plays in the NBA. Like, my dad plays on the... See how you keep saying my dad? What are you talking about? I know, right. Stop saying that. Why? He grown. Why?
Starting point is 00:28:02 Because you grown. That's fine. You grown. I am grown. Yeah, stop saying my dad, bro. I'm learning from my dad. I'm learning from the greatest player. You still live with your dad? I don't want to hear you say my dad in a conversation. Hold on. We're grown. I want to hear, hey, man, look, I talked to my dad yesterday, and I don't want to hear that, bro, as a grown man. Okay, as a grown man. His name is LeBron.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Because his name is LeBron. I mean, LeBron. We got people like Anthony Edwards just called Michael Jordan. He didn't say it's my daddy. That's not his dad. He didn't say my dad. He called him. He didn't say my dad. We have not seen the paternity test.
Starting point is 00:28:41 But that's not his dad. We still learn from him. My dad. We all learn from somebody, right? Right, you learn from KG. He can't help that his dad is one of the greatestnity test. But that's not even my dad. We still learn from my dad. We all learn from somebody, right? Right, you learn from KG. He can't help that his dad is one of the greatest players ever. What the fuck? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:28:51 He can't help that his dad's one of the greatest players ever still playing? Can't help that. If you got that, you ain't going to use that? He has it every day. What do you mean? No. No, he don't got it every day? No.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Not his dad, then. Who his real daddy? No, what do you mean every day every day at home when he's not working Yeah, when I come out of my dad actually been in a locker room with professional Athletes every day like me going to college me going to Arizona and actually me going to Italy It was two two totally different things that education that I got just learning life being a professional was totally way better than college Yeah, I would you say how can you say that? Because I know how I came into the league i was ready i went to college brandon so you can't i didn't need because listen to what you just said it's way better than college so how do you say
Starting point is 00:29:34 i still win top 10 how do you say it's way better than college and you never win because the education of life i know for sure being professional, you going to college every day and going to class, I'm actually in the gym every day. I'm going to practice two times a day. I'm in a EuroLeague. I'm playing against professional athletes. I'm playing against professionals every day for a whole year. I didn't play at all. I come back, go to a draft workout. Oh, no, we're going to take him. He know how to come off a pick and roll. Remember, you didn't go to college. And I just went. No i just went no no no no you just explained to me what y'all did in europe you just explained yep you're right right and you never went to college you know what we was doing going to class
Starting point is 00:30:14 ah don't save him no what was we doing in college other than going to class in the gym when how many times a day was we in the gym? Not more than me. Not more than you? No. But how many? Since you went to college? Maybe one time. Maybe once.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Maybe once. I don't know. But not more than me. Okay. So we had weights. I know for sure not more than me. We had weights. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:30:35 They did have weights. Yep, I did too. That was before practice. Yep, right here. Me too. Study hall. Nope, nope, nope. That's practice.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Class. That's practice. We had class. Study hall. Lay down. Then we had practice. Okay, me too. Study hall. Nope, nope, nope. That's practice. Class. That's practice. We had class, study hall. Lay down. Then we had practice. Okay, another practice. Right. Then we had dinner.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Uh-huh. Right. Then we went, if we wanted to, go back and play again. Oh, if you wanted to. No, no. We did, no. If we wanted to. No, we did three times a day for five days a week.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Right. That's what you did. And it, yes. Yeah. And then we had a game. And then we had a game. What we did in college, we did twice a week. Right. That's what you did. And it... Yes. And then we had a game. But we did it in college. We did it twice a day and we had our team
Starting point is 00:31:09 and we had to juggle that with going to school. And we had to juggle that with studying. If anybody played in Europe, please... You played in Europe. Yes, bro.
Starting point is 00:31:16 You're talking to somebody who did both. Right. Yes. So you only did one. Right. At 19, at 18. You can't tell me
Starting point is 00:31:24 how it was in college So you can't participate now. Can you I don't like to interject How many years you go to college? three okay three years of college Did those three years in college prepare you for your rookie season. Yes. Nick? No. Say it. Hell no, right?
Starting point is 00:31:48 Say it. Go on and say the real thing. Hell no. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. You asked me a question to only change my answer to your fucking answer.
Starting point is 00:31:59 No, no, no. I'm changing it to your answer. I just gave you my answer. No, no, no. You gave me your answer. What the fuck is going on? Hold on. You gave me your... What the... Are we in the Twilight Zone? He asked me a question, I gave you the answer.
Starting point is 00:32:09 He said, no, no, no. Your answer is this. Um, everybody's watching the TV just seeing... Rewind it. Okay, so, look, you know, I got... I got a nice little memory, so, um... Probably, like, six months ago, you were saying how, um, when you got to the league, you wasn't ready for all the new hoes because college didn't teach you about that. Who said that?
Starting point is 00:32:35 You did. My nigga, stop it. Now you're making up shit. That don't even sound like me. I hope you hear that, hoes. What the fuck are you talking about? You wasn't ready for the Nobody ever, that never came out of my mouth
Starting point is 00:32:47 You're making it up Especially if you can't bring up the film If you can't bring up the film, don't bring it up We're going to have the same conversation tomorrow I want the film When he was talking about KG He was talking about When he first got to Minnesota
Starting point is 00:33:02 And he wasn't ready for the league It was all new to him The girls was his downfall He was talking about when he first got to Minnesota and he wasn't ready for the league. It was all new to him. The girls, the girls was his downfall because he was coming out of Rapid. He was talking about KG was like, yeah, you don't do a regular room. You always upgrade your room when you get to the hotel. It was that story. Find it for me.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And we'll talk about this tomorrow. So from right now, you said you wasn't ready. I mean, you were ready. You said you wasn't ready. I mean you were ready You say you wasn't ready, right? So those three years. Yeah, those three years the start Oh, okay coming off the bench and she coming from being a man in college and then coming to the NBA is like a You have to start all over again Well mental part coming off the bench again that kind of messed me up So we asked the chat. I remember shots in it
Starting point is 00:33:46 We asked the chat. What was the right move for Bronny? NBA G League or going back to college 69% said NBA G League, but we're gonna take it. He actually said that We got it. I can't wait to see this. We show Bronny's dog earlier. We would we reflect on it tomorrow Walk you through the play by play. I told you I see music, nigga. I will walk you through it. Step for step, word for word. OK, what did you say?
Starting point is 00:34:14 Bar for bar. But it's not important. No, what did you say to this? What did you say to this, Sean? I can't feed it to somebody who wants to win so badly. It's not about the win. It's like you're saying that. What is it about?
Starting point is 00:34:26 You're saying being ready. Like, no matter what college did, you're not ready. The NBA is a whole different breed. You can be ready physically. You can be ready. Not mentally. Mentally, as always, it's something new. No one's mentally ready for something new.
Starting point is 00:34:42 That's why you have to spend time there. That's why you have to spend time there. That's why you have to get adjusted to it. So when I'm ready physically, the only mental adjustment for me was understanding that KG didn't give a fuck about college. Because he didn't play in college. He didn't want to hear the college stories. He didn't want to hear that shit.
Starting point is 00:35:01 So I had to adjust with, oh, we got to start this shit fresh. Nobody want to hear about what you used to do. That's what start this shit fresh Nobody want to hear about what you used to do Nobody hear about what you used to do. So the only adjustment for me was I mean you on your job now Just go out here and so it's okay down. So so so with that being said Why would he go to college if It all resets when he comes to the NBA? Because he's not physically ready.
Starting point is 00:35:28 But he can get ready here. He's got the weight program. He got this. He don't have to waste his time in class. Like I said, I would rather have an 18-year-old get into the profession and learn to be this. This is your new job. This is like your intern versus going three years, four years in college
Starting point is 00:35:44 and then coming to be a 24- is like your intern. Versus going three years, four years in college, and then coming and being a 24-year intern. We even talk about what the problem is with basketball. We're simultaneously promoting bringing younger guys in to skip college, skip all the foundational things we need in the game
Starting point is 00:36:00 just to say, oh, I can learn it while I'm here. Spend two, three years in the G League, where they don't teach it the way they could teach it in college, and then use that metric to say, well, we don't have guys experienced enough in the league no more. It's getting younger and younger and younger. Why? Because we promoting not to go to college,
Starting point is 00:36:20 not to learn for three years. So what's the difference between kids overseas? Experience. They playing. Right, right. So they's the difference between kids overseas? Experience. They playing. Right, right. So they start at a, what, young age, right? So what's wrong with an 18-year-old being able to come to the G League? He's not going to play the game with the confidence and the freedom
Starting point is 00:36:37 or even the critique, even the critique of what college does for you. It makes you play the game the right way way so what about the kid from BYU? The two-time MVP? The big kid that just committed to BYU? AJ DeBansa? Yeah him. What about him? He can go to the NBA right now.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Where is he going? He's going to BYU. Why? Because he has to. He has to. the NBA right now. Yes. Where is he going? He's going to BYU. Why? Because he has to. He has to. He has to learn. He has to spend a year for the NBA, though. You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:37:10 So what other route could he have went? You don't think he's ready right now? But I feel like I learned, like, shit in college to help me prepare for the NBA, like my mid-range and how to come off screen. Come off screen. I didn't do nothing after college. I was just a jumper in college. I was just like a dumper in college.
Starting point is 00:37:26 I mean, in high school, I was like a dumper. That kid is a phenom. That kid is a phenom. He is, but he got to learn how to play the game. In high school, you just out there hooping. And then you go to college and you learn what a pin-down is. Like a real pin-down where the big is a big and you have to go down there and set a screen.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Like that shit is structure. We're missing structure in the game. But that's the problem. Okay, so the best basketball player in college basketball last summer was Edie. Two-time, right, player of the year. Which means he was the best in the world coming into the end what's the name as of right now he is learning at the same rate as a young as 18 and 19 rolls he has the biggest advantage coming into it with
Starting point is 00:38:22 all his experience all his his dominance, you get to the next level. Right now, you have a total of 308 points. Oh, my God. How did you just... How did you just equate that to stats? So, basically, everything he did in college has no bearing
Starting point is 00:38:39 in this game. Yes, it does. You got a 24-year-old learning at the same rate as an 18, 19-year-old. What are you talking about, Gil? He has no advantage. He's a seven-footer who knows how to seal. There's no advantage. Do you know the difference of the advantage?
Starting point is 00:38:52 The 18-year-old, you know what he don't know how to do? What is he talking about? You have to go through a progression of structural development. Do you know what the miking drill is for a big? You do it because you have to have a soft touch around the rim. Yeah, but. Right, jump.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Hey, the jumping drill where you touch the backboard. Tap, tap, dunk it. Tap, tap, tap, dunk it. You know an 18-year-old would not going to be able to do that for a minute? You know how long a big got to do that? He's done it in college for three years. He could do it for three minutes.
Starting point is 00:39:23 And how's that helping him? In the offense, he can go in and keep... He knows how to get offensive rebounds. He could. What do you mean, could? He could. He averaged a double-double in college. Is he averaging a double-double now? Not yet.
Starting point is 00:39:36 He's a rookie here. What's his number? 10 and 7 right now. Huh? He's averaging 10 and 7. 10 and 7. As a rookie. At 24 years old. He's not supposed to be playing college three years ago. He's averaging 10 and 7. 10 and 7. As a rookie. At 24 years old.
Starting point is 00:39:46 He's not supposed to be playing. 22 years old. He's not supposed to. He said 24. That's crazy. He would inflate that from 22 to 24. But look. He looks 24.
Starting point is 00:39:55 The fact that he's at 10 and 7. He'll be 20. He's a rookie. He went to college for three years. I don't mean. He went to college four years. I don't mean. He'll be 23 in May.
Starting point is 00:40:02 He's 22 years old. Well, I know the best rookie. When Edie rolls to the basket as a seasoned four-year college player, does he not know what to do with the ball? What do bigs in high school do when they catch the ball in the middle of the lane? What do they do first? Put the ball down. Put the ball.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Come on, speak up. Say it with your chest. Put the ball down. Yeah, daddy. What is he doing? I don't care what they did. Like, what is he doing now? So what do we teach?
Starting point is 00:40:31 What is he doing now? When you learn in college. Hey, stop. Hey, stop him out. Get him out. Come here. Hey, Josiah. Stop bringing the ball down.
Starting point is 00:40:38 The top five rookie numbers. Two years. What is he doing now? I don't care what he learned in college. How is it translating today? It's translating every time you see him play. Watch the kid play. Edie look like he went to college for four years.
Starting point is 00:40:52 No, he don't. He's a college. He's a college. There's a rookie that came in the second round. There's a rookie that came in the second round that's better than him. Oh, shit. He's 19. Oh, shit. Who better? Who is that? Jalen Wells. You's better than him. Oh, shit. He's 19. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Who better? Who is that? Jalen Wells. Jalen Wells? Yeah. According to the last Ricky letter, I think, came out on the 23rd.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Who he play for? I know. Who he play for? He was the second rounder. Who he play for? Memphis. Same team. Memphis.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Oh, the same team. Yeah. Aw. Yeah. We not here. He got to sit behind John Moret and he's still averaging 12. He got to convince people of this shit. That's real. We don't got to convince. Just no look at it. We're looking back. He's seven foot. What yeah
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah No, and he went to college and learned how to use that and how that's the whole point of college is it hate this? Seven foot three dude and give him something so we can use him when he get over here. That's the point. Don't send him over here so we got to teach him when he get here. And we got, come on, man. It's behind the rules. But what are we arguing?
Starting point is 00:41:53 We arguing not to go to college? I'm telling you. I'm saying college is the way for structure. No, we're arguing that. We're arguing that. Where's he at on the rookie list? He's the one that's best for you, though. A youngin is.
Starting point is 00:42:03 It's structure, bro. Eddie currently fifth on the list, right? He fifth? Last rookie ladder to come up. Like five? Not one. Alex Saar is number one. 19.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Castle, two. 19. Jalen Wells, three. 21. Eves Meecy, four. How does he? I don't know. Let me pull it up.
Starting point is 00:42:20 I think he Belgium or some shit. You don't know what that birth certificate really look like. Damn, that motherfucker. Who know all this shit that you don't got to teach. 20? Means he's 20. So you know all this shit you ain't got to teach. And where's he at again?
Starting point is 00:42:29 He's fourth in the black- He has to be at the number one in the rookie ladder for all the shit that he know how to do. You know that dude that know all the shit, would never get hired for the job because somebody, he's somebody's cousin. Somebody's cousins always beat him out. He got all the tools in the tool book. He know how to do all the work.
Starting point is 00:42:44 He's very efficient, right? Don't ever get the job though. all the tools in the tool book. He know how to do all the work. He's very efficient. Right? Don't ever get the job, though. Don't ever get to number one. He's always at fifth, sixth of the ladder. What's this nigga's logic, bro? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:42:54 You can have the tools and not be at the top of the ladder because your team situation, your team record, how many minutes you get, all that shit count. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:06 All right, well, look, we could talk about this all day. He's playing 20 minutes. your team record, how many minutes you get. All that shit count. Yeah. Mm. All right, well, look, we can talk about this all day. He's playing 20 minutes. And Gil's gonna continue doing it. Of course he is. One guy's playing 20. Who's gonna know what's going on out here? Alex Stark, number two pick.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Oh, yeah, he played more minutes, right? He played 20 something. He played for the Wizards, though. Yeah, he played for the Wizards. They are a hot pack of mid, as we already know. Oh, so Jalen on his team is averaging 12. Jalen Wells is averaging 12. Make sure y'all highlight the fact that every time he pick up this phone,
Starting point is 00:43:32 it's dead fucking meat. Every time I pick up my phone, I want real facts. Every time he pick up the phone, I'm taking another scoop of the dirt. I want correction. I don't want just, we just say shit. Let's hire somebody to do our. I don't just say shit. Can we hire a real time?
Starting point is 00:43:55 That's wrong. I want facts. I don't want to just say shit. Let's keep this thing moving because we got a lot of stuff to talk about. But Gil, we showed the brownie dunk earlier. We also got to show some love to your son Elijah. Came through with a poster of his own. When his chat work squad took on Nick's alma mater,
Starting point is 00:44:09 Cleveland High School, this weekend. Let us take a look. Show some love to Elijah. See him bring it down. This is an overtime. Ooh! Normally my old man would show some emotion on the play. He had to.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I told him that. Look at the crowd going crazy. There goes JC the barber and who is that? Swaggy P in the building. Whoo! Can I ask you something? Oh man, dude. And we also got another angle of it.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Look at Swaggy's reaction in the back. Lean with it, rock with it. That shit was crazy, bro. Does that the new kid with the tall kid, does he live in your area? Who? I just want to ask, man, how you get to Cleveland, brother? Oh, that African? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Oh, man, I was saying the same thing. I was like, where you get this African from? I said, this one's from the jump. That was the first game, too. That was his first game? Yeah, first game. Y'all are cheating every time. First game, bro. This is first game.
Starting point is 00:45:12 They pulling Venice Beach. No, no, no, no. This is crazy. He transferred. He transferred in the middle of the season. They do that now. You see this? They do that now.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Listen, last year, last year, they had two reps that now. You see this? They do that now. Listen, last year, last year, they had two refs that cheated. No, it was your fault. They got kicked off of all the chapter games because of that game. Y'all was winning 14 the whole game. But the last three minutes, y'all started bullshitting. That's why I said it. It was your fault. I heard.
Starting point is 00:45:41 It was Colston just laying it up, playing. It was so easy. I heard. I heard. Y'all got to let it up, playing. It was so easy. I heard. I heard. Y'all got to let you know, we got to go easy on the ref talk. I got jammed up by one of the high school refs this weekend. I said, I see y'all talking about the refs all the time. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:52 We got. I said, not you, sir. We got two of them banned. Not you. Just your colleagues. No, we got two refs. They've been banned. They can't do no more of Liza's games.
Starting point is 00:46:01 That was the. Out there cheating. The last four minutes was like the best thing in the game. Were you at the game? No, I was in here working on my system. Okay. Swaggy, you were at the game. What did you think about Elijah's dunk? It was crazy. It came at the right time, too.
Starting point is 00:46:14 It was like overtime. We was coming back, you know, and it was like they team was freezing Elijah out, and he got mad, like, fuck it, I'm gonna take this into my own hands. And I've been waiting for, I was waiting for that. You know, I was like, come on, man, dunk on this African. He, you know, he jumping and shit. Just fucking.
Starting point is 00:46:35 I'm giving him the side link, like, you know. Even though I don't want us to, I don't want them You want to see him perform. That's a real friend though. That's a brotherhood right there. And at least, you know, y'all going to be blowing us out. Like, give us a show a little bit. And then they finally came back.
Starting point is 00:46:50 That's when it got fun, you know. All right, well, Elijah, one of the top-ranked high school players in the country. Got a feeling he has some big things coming. Gil, I already know you're loving it. And as the family's unsanctioned mediator currently trying to convince Elijah to sign this 359 deal with my makeshift marketing agency. I'm loving it, too.
Starting point is 00:47:08 But let's keep it moving. There were some calls for concern in the arena after the Lakers got smacked by the Clippers in their first trip to the Intuit Dome last week. But the Purple and Gold responded with home wins over the Wizards and by blowing out the defending champion Celtics in primetime. And the Lakers pulled up to the Bay on Saturday as LeBron renewed his rivalry with Steph Curry and the Warriors,
Starting point is 00:47:27 but the Dubs were without Draymond Green and Jonathan Kaminga. Lakers proceeded to continue their recent dominance on the chef, and Witte had left. So here we go. Let's take a look at the highlights. Anthony Davis came through with another big-time performance. AD had 36 points on 13 for 23 shooting, along with 13 rebounds, three steals and a block.
Starting point is 00:47:46 LeBron had 25 points, 12 dimes, and five boards, going 12 for 25 from the field. Austin Reeves continued to show why he's the best third option in the league, finishing with 16.7 dimes and five rebounds. He was 6 for 10 from the field. Dalton Kinnick came off the bench, added 13 points, getting three threes in the game. And Jerry Vanderbilt, Vando as we call him,
Starting point is 00:48:05 made his presence felt in his season debut. Four rebounds, three steals, two assists, and his 12 minutes of action was big on the defensive side. Meanwhile, let's talk a little bit about the Warriors. Steph had 13 points in the first half and proceeded to put a donut in the second half thanks to a spirited defensive effort from the Purple and Gold.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Andrew Wiggins led the Warriors with 20 points on 9-15 shooting, and Brandon Bajinski came off the bench, added 17 points in the game. So the Lakers have now won five of their last six games, 25-18 on the season. So get rid of the Lakers showing you in these last two games against the Celtics and the Warriors. We were watching the Warriors game on playback, had a very enjoyable playback watch party. Shout-out to Lowe, gold-blooded.
Starting point is 00:48:49 The rest of the crew to pull it up. Famous Lowe's came through for a little bit. I mean, they show signs of dominance. And they show signs of it seems like they don't know what's going on, and that's been the problem. We got Vando back, though. Yeah, though yeah no no he did very very well i can't believe i was happy that vando came back to give us four points three rebounds whatever he gave us it just looks better right because his extra hustle his extra um intensity just it just it looks a lot better when he's on the floor, and that's crazy to say. Realistically, we've been talking about Vando's return for a while,
Starting point is 00:49:31 how that would help boost the Lakers. Rui Hachimor did not play in the game, leading some in the Lakers nation to speculate that he might not make it through Black History Month, but that is another story. But, I mean, everyone, you know, everyone looked, they looked better. You know, and that's the good part, that they got four quarters, they put them together for the first time in a while, and they got a win against a great Celtics team.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Yep. Also defeated the Warriors, who are trash, but that's a rivalry game, primetime, ABC Saturday. We're not worried about the Warriors, man. The Warriors gave their best effort. The Warriors are getting beat by their coach right now, so we good. They used to say it was definitely. We don't worry about that.
Starting point is 00:50:09 They said it was 30s era. Sometimes, you know, sometimes the battle is not the opponent. Sometimes the battle is in-house. Brandon, as a former Lakers fan, making your way back on to the bandwagon, slowly but surely, what do you think about this Lakers squad and their recent success, 25-18, fifth in the West? Yeah, I mean, mediocre.
Starting point is 00:50:30 It's fine. Man, I still think the Clippers are the best team though right now. Well, no, we're not talking about the Clippers. Not according to the standing. I know, but we should talk about the Clippers. What's up with your Warriors? We're going to talk about the Clippers
Starting point is 00:50:42 in a little bit. What's up with your Warriors? Steph is playing without a number two option. No, you got a number two buddy. He'll y'all Y'all got rid of y'all number two and broke another two and unfortunately, he's coming up a bitch. That's just a personal problem Yeah, they got stuff over there dying by itself. Yeah Step over there dying by our stuff that you got 80 over here crying about it's like call it do that like it's What's going on? It's like Call of Duty. Like, it's... Like, what's going on? It's like Call of Duty, man.
Starting point is 00:51:07 Like, what's going on? It's nasty. Like, you got... You supposed to be the number one option, you over here complaining. I need help. Yeah. You need more help. You've taken a backseat to a 40...
Starting point is 00:51:17 Get him some milk. AD, 36 and 13? They both saying they need help. Get him some milk. I'm just saying, unfortunately... They both need help? They both need help? Y'all second option?
Starting point is 00:51:24 A 40-year-old? A 40-year-old and AD? Y'all bringing y'all second. They both need help? They both need help? Y'all second option. A 40-year-old? A 40-year-old at 80? Y'all bringing y'all second options off the bench, that's just, that ain't our problem right now. Right? You know? They need some help.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Hey, Brandon, they need help. The top five. What's his name? Is AD supposed to be a top five big? I thought he was a top three. Is AD a top three big in NBA right now? Who? Is AD a top three big?
Starting point is 00:51:42 Yes. Always. Yeah. Okay. How much help do you need one of the best fours in the way? Oh, I mean you got the best number third option We're not saying you got arguably the greatest player to ever to play the game. We're not saying he mean you got JJ No, no, you know y'all winning had wine with him and held up had a whole podcast I'm not saying he needs help. We they see saying they need to bring in a five so he can go to the four, which I'm still confused with that.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Because you're scoring, you're playing against five men, which are a lot faster, and I'm thinking you want to go against the fours because you're bigger. That's what I'm starting to think. Yeah, he wants to duck the smoke. He wants to go against the fours so you can post them all up. Yes. And the five, you got to take them all to dribble,
Starting point is 00:52:29 and I don't think that's part of your game. So I think you want to go against the four. No, we won. Mr. Cemetery Larry, I see you. No, no, no. We won when we had a five. No facts. No facts.
Starting point is 00:52:38 I'm just thinking how he's playing the game. Your advantage against the five is because you get the dribble. I don't know if you want to do all that because you get them tighter i think you want the fours to guard you so you can just beat him up in the post so but what does that do with lebron i got a question is the is the brown number one option yeah i afford that yeah fortunately senior citizen man so lebron is the number one option all Mm-hmm. All right. Roll LeBron James. Shout out to my boy Banks818. Told me to ask Gil. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 00:53:09 How come they say Tatum is the number one option on Boston because he leads them in all categories? But at the same time, they say Bron is the number one option, but AD leads them in every single category. Mm. Mm. AD leads them in assists? So he's in...
Starting point is 00:53:23 Except... And he says besides. Okay, so he's the number one option. So 80's the number one option. So that's why y'all trash. Exactly. Thank you, my brother. Thank you, my brother.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Thank you, my brother. That's why they can't get it over the hump. So they need a number one option. So we're trash because 80 need a number one option. So we're trash because 80 is our number one option? When they changed the number one option for Boston, what happened? They won the championship. They won the championship. They've never changed it.
Starting point is 00:53:55 When did they change the number one option for Boston? So wait a minute. Yeah. You don't remember? You didn't see the game when they changed it? They was like, yeah, we're going to take yours. Wait, I know you're clapping. What are you clapping for? So are you saying? Yeah! You don't remember? You didn't see the game when they changed it? They was like, yeah, we're gonna take your lead now. Wait, I know you're clapping. What are you clapping for?
Starting point is 00:54:10 So are you saying Anthony Davis is the number one option? I don't get it. Taylor's still laying it on the ground. Are you saying Anthony Davis is the number one option? I'm just saying when y'all ask it for help, it makes no sense when you got Batman and Superman. So who is Superman? Anthony Davis. Whichever. But help, it makes no sense when you got Batman and Superman. So who is Superman?
Starting point is 00:54:25 Anthony Davis. Whichever. So Anthony Davis is Superman and LeBron James is Batman now. 40-year-old Batman. So you're saying we're not going to win because Anthony Davis or we're going to win because Anthony Davis? I'm trying to figure out. You kind of haven't won because of both of them. No, no, no. You read that for a reason.
Starting point is 00:54:41 So we're saying if Anthony Davis leads in everything, then he's the number one option. So I'm saying, so we should be winning now? No, y'all were... When he leads, y'all win. Okay, so he's leading. Are we winning? No. Y'all still trash. 25 and 18, Sean. Fifth in the West. You said when he...
Starting point is 00:55:00 When he leads, he wins. When LeBron not on the floor. So you're saying get rid of LeBron. LeBron's not on the floor. The team got flow. Nah, I done seen him just go to work this week. Hey, listen, I'm just saying, it's good to have a LeBron James on the team.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Now, you can't say it's not a good thing to not have 25-55. I'm confused. Can't say that's not a good thing. But to win for the Lakers, for the number one option to have the keys. Anthony Davis. You got to find some other pieces besides this piece for you guys to win.
Starting point is 00:55:33 That's all. Okay. So basically, Anthony Davis needs to go up to the front office and tell them, man, get rid of this dude. Let's get some pieces in here while we still got him here. We still got him here. Let's get rid of this thing and get some pieces. He needs to go up there and tell him. So who was the number one option last year?
Starting point is 00:55:48 Who led all the categories? I don't know. That was for this year. That was the question for this year. Okay, so what I'm saying is whoever was number one option last year, if we transferred and he's the number one option this year, we should win a championship and everything should ride on him, like you said Boston did, right? No, I'm not saying it's going to work the same way. Ron led the team in scoring last year, we should win a championship and everything should ride on him like you said Boston did, right?
Starting point is 00:56:06 Ron led the team in scoring last year. 26 points a game. Also took the most shot attempts. One more field goal to attempt in AD. So Anthony Davis led in everything else? AD led in rebounds, I believe. And then Ron led in assists. Okay, so Ron was number one option last year. AD's number one option
Starting point is 00:56:22 this year, so we should win a championship. Hell yeah. So that means you can't blame Ron for nothing no, so we should win the championship. Hell yeah. So that means you can't blame Braun for nothing no more because Andy Davis is the head. Hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about. We don't need no more LeBron slander, y'all. No.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Andy Davis is the head honcho, baby. This is like 0203 when Kobe took the lead. I got it. Yes. He seemed not to get the little stuff off his... Did you get him a napkin or something? Come on. You read it. Get him a little napkin.
Starting point is 00:56:51 She really went to go do it. No, what I'm saying is you read it. That was your question. Just get him a little napkin, man. That was your question, right? You read the question. It just didn't go the way you thought it was going to go. You thought I was going to say yes.
Starting point is 00:57:02 LeBron is the number one option. You're saying we can't blame LeBron, and you cheered. That was weird. I'm saying you can't blame him. It's Anthony Davis now. So we don't want to hear no more LeBron slams. Well, let's talk about the current number one option on the Lakers, Anthony Davis, before the Celtics game.
Starting point is 00:57:16 That's what we just ordained him to be the number one option. That's a rebuttal. I got him with his own shit, right? We just ordained AD. We just ordained AD as the number one option. He officially has the keys. But before the Celtics game, ESPN dropped an interview with AD and Shams. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:57:35 He doesn't understand. He hates you right now. Give me some tissue. I said Krista. I swear. Okay. He did say Krista. I did say Krista. Uh, hey. I said Krista. I swear. Okay. He did say Krista. I did say Krista. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:57:48 What'd I say? I heard Krista. See? I heard Krista. What'd I say? We beefing in the arena. But before the Celtics game, ESPN dropped an interview with AD and Shams with Davis, once again saying he wants the Lakers to bring in a solid five so he can play his preferred
Starting point is 00:57:59 position at the four spot. And after that game, AD went deeper on why he's at his best when he's playing the four. Let's take a listen. Well, defensively, just bringing out the big out there. You know, we've seen it with Jackson. A little bit more disruptive. Offensively, just allows me to float around a little bit more. I only started playing at five in 2021. I have stretches, you know, but I was primarily four. So my whole career, you know, I've been playing at four. So, and we've seen how, you know, I play, I just feel like a little bit more effective.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I mean, it has its advantages and disadvantages, but I mean, the front office knows that. I've told them that every year I've been here. So it's nothing new. But I just feel like I'm a better player at the four. So AD said, personally, I'm a better player at the four. He said the front office knows that he's told him that y'all need to bring in a legit five so I can stop having all that workload at the five position.
Starting point is 00:59:06 You guys understand AD's frustration with the Lakers front office... Yeah. ...for not bringing in a solid five. We've talked about it on this show. Nope. How tall is AD? About 6'11".
Starting point is 00:59:15 He got Bambi legs, though. Yeah, okay. He said he started playing in 2021? The five, primarily. And we ain't hearing shit till 2025. He voiced his concerns. He did. He did. He asked previously. He did. He did?
Starting point is 00:59:33 But what's wrong with somebody wanting to play their actual position, though? I don't get it. But what is his actual... He always played the four. He said he's playing better as a four man than as a five. And the stats say otherwise. Clearly. Clearly.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Clearly. Wait, did y'all disagree? No, no, no. We understand with him when it comes to how he plays. Like, bro, your best percentages have been, throughout your career, has been at the five. What happened? In New Orleans.
Starting point is 01:00:12 53%, right? 56%, 55%, 52%. Before that, it was shooting 49, 50, 51. His rookie cousins played one year. He's starting to get into that. But before that, they had the total... He was playing power four. He always played the power four.
Starting point is 01:00:24 No, but what I'm saying, as a center, as a center, 53% from the field, 56% from the field, 55 and 52. Before that, 49, 50, 51, 53, 50, 49. Like, you didn't start averaging a double-double until you went to the center spot. 12 rebounds, 12 rebounds, 12 rebounds this year. Before that, nine, seven... What do you think the average? Eight rebounds? Okay, nine, eight, nine. What?
Starting point is 01:00:57 That's like somebody telling you you're gonna play the three. You still gonna produce out there. What's that? You still gonna do your thing. But you ain't playing in the position. What's the difference between Paul George saying he bored at the 5 and Anthony Davis saying I need more help because I don't want to play the 5? He's not saying he need more help. He's saying he just need a center.
Starting point is 01:01:18 He don't want to play the 5. Anybody? You want anybody at the 5? They could have got Valachunas at the five. Let him skate. Because we feel like you play better at the five. We feel like you produce better for us at the five. But how is the owner going to tell me how he feel about my position?
Starting point is 01:01:41 Because we're watching your numbers. Yeah. We like the way you sing like this. Sing it like I tell you to sing it, Anna Mae. But we won when I was a four. I think you know that I'm winning. Sing it like I tell you to sing it. I don't think it's offensively.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I think defensively. They went in a bubble, though. I think defensively. It don't count. That bubble said don't count. I think defensively, he likes the five better. A hundred percent. I think it reminds me of Ben Wallace when Ben Wallace was at the five, right?
Starting point is 01:02:10 It made him work harder. Even though he was effective, it made him work harder. And I don't think he felt he can control the game at the five. When they put Rashid at the five and him at the four He was more efficient just all around. He became more dangerous even though his numbers didn't spike Defensively with rashid back there and ben wallace cleaning up everything. So it kind of made him a lot better So I get that part realistically for ad he wants More freedom to roam. Yeah, which allows you to be more lazy. No.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Right? Think about what I'm saying, though. At the five, you got to stay engaged at the five at all times. All that running up into the pick and roll, that's five-man shit. Now, if you're going to run AD into a pick and roll, he can switch that. That's a switch right there. It's more of a prone to drop back in the drop coverage for AD, then go back and try to find a rebound then close out
Starting point is 01:03:06 To the week to the weak side. He's doing a lot of running around But why are we going away from what what made us win? No, why are we taking a step back? Why are we winning with this team with big ass liner with the white ad or JaVale ad LeBron? But the next time because I was the I was the I was a Somebody I don't need no more. Mr. Big somebody said somebody said I don't need them no more but the next year... That was fake. Somebody said, I don't need them no more. Mr. B, somebody said,
Starting point is 01:03:29 I don't need them no more and I don't want them taking credit for me getting this chip for this city. They not about to get credit for this. White Hart got to go.
Starting point is 01:03:36 God, get out of here. I got y'all one. Yeah, we good. The bubble. The rest of this on me. The world was... The rest of this on me. Middle of a pandemic,
Starting point is 01:03:43 the hardest championship in NBA history, you're saying, was a fake ring. Yeah. We still pushing that narrative? Yep. 2025.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Fake. So then why didn't everybody else win? Everybody else was in it. Nobody was in it. Everybody was at home. So they're not winners? It was real life shit going on.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Nobody, no, y'all weren't about playing basketball. You didn't even have fans. You were the only ones that was locked in. You didn't even have fans. Nobody else was locked in.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Nobody else was locked in, bro. So shouldn't that be a testament to the Lakers, right? That they could lock in despite everything going on in the world? Nope. We could steal one. They knew this was the Italian job. They're like, we're about to steal one in here. We're about to steal one.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Oh, boy. Ocean's 11. LeBron got that mama mentality. He got the who? He got the what mentality? Mama. He was locked in. Nobody else was. That's what you're saying. Uh-uh. I wasn't mama mentality. He got the who? He got the what mentality? Mama. He was locked in. Nobody else was.
Starting point is 01:04:27 That's what you're saying. Uh-uh. I wasn't saying that. I'm saying everybody else was locked out. That's what I'm saying. And he had the VIP key to the little suite that only certain motherfuckers would get into. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Everybody was locked out. You can't kill him. Everybody was in the bubble. I ain't in that bubble. I ain't in that bubble. I didn't do that bubble. I didn't do that bubble. He still, he is that. He had his own air. He had his own air.
Starting point is 01:04:52 He had his own air. Nice-ass gel, basically. I'm not breathing basic bitch air. He had his own air. Hey, don't you bring that bullshit air in here. Ron had his own air out there, man. But when he played, everybody else had the same hair. So back to this AD5 discussion with the Lakers.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Lakers have been linked to several bigs around the league, including Walker Kessler, Valanchunas, Vucevic, Miles Turner. It's a name that's kind of lingering in the cut. And it appears Nurk may be on his way out. For Utah, big boy for Utah? He'd be perfect. It appears Nurk may be on his way out after getting benched by the Suns. Who?
Starting point is 01:05:25 Nurk. So him and Booten after getting benched by the Suns. Who? Nurk? Just defensive rebounder. Nurk? So him and Budenhoser ain't rocking with each other. So which big man makes the most sense for this Lakers roster? Lakers fans seem to want Walker Kessler. As you know, Danny Ainge drives a very hard bargain. He's going to need about 37 first-round picks. From Utah?
Starting point is 01:05:40 Kessler's big A. He's like Mark Eaton. Kessler, Conley Sexton. That's how he is with them right now. Utah's also talking like mark Eaton Kessler college sex. I know how he is right now Oh, that's how you thought trying to get rid of everybody. We need but I mean You need a hard-nosed player. They got I gotta get Jordan out of there I mean somebody mobile knowing they're gonna be in the pick and roll Harkestown. Yeah, he mobile He's like it had a been fucking great, but he's he'd like Harkestown though. He just like Harkestown
Starting point is 01:06:00 He don't he don't be playing like that. I don't know how many hours. Let me get his mouse turned. Minutes the average, but. Let's take Legos. Who? Legos? Let's take Legos. You want Legos? Let's take Legos.
Starting point is 01:06:11 You don't want to do that. Let's turn it off. Oh, no, no. He going to fashion show all the way to the arena. You talking about Hollywood, boy. Some people can't come to LA. Miles cannot come to fucking LA. Hell no. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:06:22 He will never show up. They said he was walking like. Who? Miles. They said he was walking like. Miles will never show up to the L.A. Hell no. He would never show up. They said he was walking like... Who? Miles. They said he was walking like... Miles would never show up to the game.
Starting point is 01:06:27 He'd be at the motherfucking art galleries and all kinds of shit. Grown man can't play with Legos? With them glasses on looking at shit, nigga, with the...
Starting point is 01:06:34 No, I mean, you know, he builds Legos. Hey, I'm not even going to lie. Like, sometimes I be watching and people who be
Starting point is 01:06:42 building Legos and, like, doing puzzles and shit, right? I be like, man, who be building Legos and, like, doing puzzles and shit, right? I be like, man, you really got to be, like, really mentally calm to sit here for hours on hours just focused on that. That is just crazy in itself. That's what we need him.
Starting point is 01:06:57 That's what we need him. It's like the Hannibal. He's low-key crazy. So we asked the chat, where should Lakers play AD? 80% said the four. 20% said the five. But back to that point, who do you think would be the best fit for the Lakers?
Starting point is 01:07:11 You like Walker? I like Walker. Miles Turner? Walker. Vooch? Nurk? There's a lot of options out there. I say Miles and Vooch.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Valanchunas? LeBron did baptize them. I mean, I think Wendell Gabriel would be perfect for you guys. Just go ahead and re-sign him. Y'all are going to be exactly what y'all need. He's not on the roster. He's re-signed. Representing the South.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Who? Gabe? Gabe. Oh, yeah. Hell, yeah. Gabriel. Hell, yeah. We see what the other one's doing.
Starting point is 01:07:41 They be running around. He's about to play hard for you. Who? Wendell? Yeah, Gabriel. You ain't like him. Where he playing? He was playing with the Lakers before.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Yeah, back then. Get one of them suits. He had the dark skin. South Sudan. Yeah, South Sudan. Yeah. Oh, man, don't do that. Bro, he was averaging like 8 and 3.
Starting point is 01:08:02 We just need somebody. We just need a body out there. Yeah, and he was running around. Remember, think about it, we had JaVale and Dwight. That's a good body, right? Yeah. That's a good body, Paul. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:08:12 But that was just, we had great bodies out there. I'm loving it, those are good bodies, Paul. JaVale and, they done won a lot. Ladies and gentlemen, we are, we currently have the TV on in the background here. So some big news coming through right now. See you gentlemen rocking your McDonald's All-American jerseys.
Starting point is 01:08:28 ESPN about to announce the roster for the 2025 McDonald's All-American Games, which they are in the process of doing right now. Girls' roster is going first. Shout-out to the ladies. Doing their thing. That's what I'm gonna call it. They got a girls' McDonald's? I was... Gil. This is the shit. Hey, this is for the people that their. They got a girls McDonald's? I was.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Gil. This is the shit. This is for the people that was good enough. This is the shit. Wow. You had to be good enough. You had to be good enough. Brandon, is that a shot at this side of the couch?
Starting point is 01:08:57 I'm just saying, it's only, I mean, we here for a reason. I mean, we're in an arena. It's only one arena. And a follow up. I'm going to just be honest. I didn't even know there was a big time. We know. We know.
Starting point is 01:09:08 We know. I mean, your name was Gilbert Arena? He said they thought he was Mexican. So they wouldn't look at his way. Gilbert. We know. We know. Gilbert.
Starting point is 01:09:19 We know. We know. Gilbert. Gilbert. Gilbert. We know. We know. We know.
Starting point is 01:09:23 We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. We know. Gil did get nominated. Gil did get nominated for the El Pollo Loco game. Where's Gilbert? That ain't him. That ain't him. That ain't him. That ankle sucks.
Starting point is 01:09:29 So ladies and gentlemen, we got a major announcement here in the arena. That's a nigga. They have just released the 2025 McDonald's All-In-One. That's a nigga. That's a nigga. That's a nigga. That's a nigga. That's a nigga.
Starting point is 01:09:41 That's a nigga. That's a nigga. That's a nigga. That's a nigga. That's a nigga. That's a nigga. That's a nigga. That ain't him. That ain't called socks. So ladies and gentlemen, we got a major announcement here in the arena. They have just released the 2025 McDonald's All-American Day Month. Yeah!
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Starting point is 01:10:29 The new King. The new King. That's fire. Yeah. We got Tope here in the building, too, from the copy magic. Gotta give you a love. Another McDonald's All-American. We see the big cap.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Woo! We see the big cap in the building, but we got Elijah Reynos doing his thing. Congratulations, my God. Y'all making the family good, baby. Yes. We got one on this side now, God damn it. Yeah, we got one on this side. Elijah, I see you drinking the Sprite, too.
Starting point is 01:10:57 You are really getting it going, McDonald's Sprite. As you know. It feels good to drink that. It's the best thing today. So you reclassed from the junior 2026 class to 2025. Even though you reclassed, still the 12th ranked player. Obviously, we're not rolling with ESPN rankings, but we just have to acknowledge them.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Now, we got you number one right here in our hearts. But what does it mean to you to be a McDonald's All-American? It's special. It feels great, you know, like just to be a part of something special and playing a really big game, especially for me. Watched the game last year and, like, just always just wanted to know how it felt to really play in a special game like that.
Starting point is 01:11:34 So it means a lot to me. Okay. So you are the first member of the Arenas family to be selected to the McDonald's All-American game, as Brandon and Shaw pointed out earlier. Everybody thought your dad was Mexican Different time back there. They were I'm just saying what they were the role of Mexico perspective He said but shout out behind the hockey others who have got rid of that narrative
Starting point is 01:11:58 Are you officially better than your dad at basketball does this stamp you Arena in the family? Right now? You winning right now. The trajectory. Yes, most definitely. Easy. Come on, y'all.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!
Starting point is 01:12:15 Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Easy. Gil, can I get your reaction to that? OK. Gil got the smoke. Gil has given his seal of approval with the smoke.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Yeah, I didn't even know nothing about McDonald's when I played. I wasn't... I was a three-star. You were an El Pollo Loco. Three, so I wasn't even privileged. Green burrito. El Pollo Loco. Didn't even know nothing about McDonald's. You was a three-star getting, like, 50 a game?
Starting point is 01:12:43 Yeah. It was at Grant, though. You know how they used to look at us back in the day. It was a Mexican school. It was a Mexican school. For sure. What? Looking good? That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:53 Looking good in the McDonald's thing. How you get all this gear already? Your favorite player, James Harden. I see you got the McDonald's thing. Hattie. Hattie. Harden. Did he give those to you special?
Starting point is 01:13:03 Yeah. Shout out James Harden. Shout out to his beard. Elijah's favorite player. So we saw the graphic come up on ESPN. It said undecided by your name. College basketball world. You're waiting on your decision.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I don't want to know where you're going, but I want to know who's in your top five right now. Who's in your top five? And when are you planning on making your selection? It better be somewhere over here. Top five, I got... It better be somewhere over here. I'd say I got... It better be somewhere over here. I'd say USC, Arizona, Kentucky, Louisville, and Kansas.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Okay, there's a school I did not hear mentioned in that top five. As I previously told you, working on your NIL bread, got it up to $618. Three pints of ice cream. We are still working on it. Shout out to the UCLA Bruins. But we got two McDonald's All-Americans here on the couch. You guys are the OGs when it comes to the Mickey D's game.
Starting point is 01:13:48 What advice would you give to Elijah on playing in the McDonald's game and how can he flourish playing amongst all those other star high school players? For me, have fun. Man, you're playing against, you know, the greats. That's in your class. You're going to see these guys in a couple years in college, in the NBA. It's a good time when you're getting those practices to show, you know what I'm saying, separate yourself from everybody.
Starting point is 01:14:11 But have fun, man. Have fun. All your hard work that you put in, you know, getting in the gym with your dad, you know, you should be very proud of yourself right now. Thank you. Mr. Cemetery Larry. I was eating a french fry. I should have given it. I ain't going front. I ain't going front. If he don't score 23 or better,
Starting point is 01:14:31 he can't really talk to me. I'm going to be disappointed. 23 or better. If that's how much I have, you ain't getting more than me. He ain't going to hear it. I'm looking at you like I look at your daddy. Can't beat me. Mm-hmm. Can't beat you. How much did you get? Can't beat me. Can't beat me. Can't beat me.
Starting point is 01:14:48 You got to get more than 23. You have our stats from the game? I can pull it up. You had a double double, right? I had a lot of dimes. I don't think so. You had the flat top from Namaste. Yeah, that was my marketing.
Starting point is 01:14:57 In what? In Milwaukee from Namaste? Yeah, Milwaukee. How much you had? I didn't play basketball until I was 20. Oh, damn. So I just made it off. Until he was 20.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Oh, you just snuck on campus? Yeah, just snuck on campus. Technically, technically, they should call me the McDonald's killer. Then why should they call you that? Every player that was in there, just in the league, I gave them work. Tell them. I gave them work. I tell him. I gave them work.
Starting point is 01:15:26 Yeah. I looked at the list like, wait a minute. Yeah. Yeah, for me, I didn't play high school ball until my junior year. So I didn't play high school ball until my junior year. I didn't play in the first year. Why? That was plenty of time.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Me in jail? I didn't like school. You was in jail. Oh, I'm like, what? Like, where were you? I wasn't playing in jail. like, what's... Like, where were you? No, I'm just saying, where were you? Junior year. So, and then I got accepted to, like, the Nike and ABCD shit.
Starting point is 01:15:55 I didn't know what it was, so I didn't go to none of that. Oh, that's why you had to fight for... Shit might mess up your game. We can't have it. So, Brandon, in the McDonald's game, you had 12 points, 9 assists. Just throwing it out. Elijah, what are you most excited? Are you going to come out there trying to distribute the ball? Are you going to come out there trying to cook?
Starting point is 01:16:09 They're pulling it right now. Shai, you had 22 points in your game. Should have won MVP. We already know there's some... They cheated you? Who was the MVP of that game, Shai? You know he know. Coach of the Lakers.
Starting point is 01:16:21 And that's where the Dylan Origen story starts. Wow! No wonder you don't like him. No, it ain't got nothing to do with him. the Lakers. Mm. And that's where the original story starts. Wow! J.J. Redick? No wonder you don't like him. No, it ain't got nothing to do with him. His high school coach was the coach of our team. His high school coach was the coach of our team. You lost to a white man?
Starting point is 01:16:36 We kicking you out the black society. Why? Why you think I like Snow Bunny so much? In the black society. What you think the origin story behind? Can you tap that white girl? Where you think that start from? Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:16:52 JJ? Hey. But JJ, he earned his life. In all sincerity, we got a- What did he have? 23. Coach left him in the last two minutes of the game. We've been talking about about 40.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Oh, wow. But in all sincerity, Elijah, obviously everybody on this couch is super proud of you. Know your dad is super proud of you. Getting selected at 2025 McDonald's All-American game. Sure has been a dream of yours for a while. And now I see it come true. So just how excited are you to be able to play in that game?
Starting point is 01:17:16 Barclay Center, we will be there. Underdog is flying the entire crew out to support Elijah in the McDonald's All-American game. Well, whoop. You didn't know that, Gil? No, I don't. Well, shit. Man. You came up with the idea. I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:17:32 But what does it mean? How excited are you to be able to actually play in that game? You've seen it for years, I'm sure, and now being actual... Be in it, and are you gonna pass the ball or are you trying to get buckets? I'm trying to get buckets. That's all we wanted to hear. I'm gonna have fun, but but I probably won't really,
Starting point is 01:17:48 like, you know, know how it feels until I hit that court. So I'm waiting until I get there. And then I think it's going to really hit me, you know, like I really made it. So we showed your clip, you going up against Cleveland High School. Swaggy was in the building. JC the barber was in the building.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Talk about that dunk for me a little bit. Like I said, you know me, my old me mom manner Doug showed a lot of emotion again He's me. Yeah, that was it. There. Oh, it was always a close game with Cleveland But even last year same thing and then last year actually shot That three same corner, but I hated to go to overtime. Hmm. So it was like the same thing all over again But playing them is so it's always good. I got a question Are you the best player? Coming out your class. Are you the best player coming out of your class?
Starting point is 01:18:33 Yeah, I believe that but I got a lot to work on especially from watching everybody else, you know, see what they got I feel like there's some stuff to really hone in on and you know really build up on That would really really make me number one. What do you think that is? I just feel like trying to be a leader. That comes with discipline. And for me, it's my overall game. So I know I'll pick and choose.
Starting point is 01:18:59 I really got to work on this. I really got to work on that. But for me, it's just trying to be into that leader role, especially who I want to be in the league. Can I challenge you? Hm. We know what you can do. What can't you do? Hm.
Starting point is 01:19:14 So, before you even answer that, the mystique behind a player like you is, can he fucking guard? Yeah. Not can he just guard. Can he shut him down? Can you go to the All-Star game and say they know how good I am, but I'm about to show them how good they not?
Starting point is 01:19:35 Yeah. That's just a different approach from certain guys where you already know how good. You got your dad. He going to be... He a scientist when it comes to the offense. Mm-hmm. For you, it's effort and energy when it come to defense ain't nobody
Starting point is 01:19:47 gonna teach you yeah so you got to see look at these dudes and be like man I already know I'm the best but I'm about to show you individually match up take your heart I know if I see that in you I already told him I already think you up here that part of your shit yeah I think I've seen a little bit of that. Yeah. I feel like it needs to be from the jump a lot more. Yeah. I really got to own that.
Starting point is 01:20:10 You wait till somebody push you. And then you'll be like, yo, what? What? So I tune to stop picking shoes. And it's always got to be that. I feel like that's where you. Jump ball. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Jump ball. Those practices. And the McDonald's going. Yeah, that's the practice at McDonald's. That's where ball. Those practices. Yeah. And the McDonald's going to... Yeah, that's the practice at McDonald's. That's where you get to set the tone. I'm telling you, you get to play your position for the first time. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:20:31 And you get to set the tone for all of them. They get to see how you rock. They get to be like, oh, I didn't know he was this intense. No, for real. There's three NBA kids in the McDonald's? The two Boozer boys? Boozer. The best.
Starting point is 01:20:44 The practices are going is gonna separate. Yeah The both home a do it. Yeah, now nobody can hide. Yeah, nobody can hide in the back selling watch to my Oh, my god, you gonna catch somebody on the island as you think could guard you and you like, oh you too You know, we got you a lot for you to do celebrating this moment. Got one more question for you. What other goals have you set for yourself? Obviously, making the McDonald's game a tremendous achievement in your career, but we know you still want more. So what other goals do you have for yourself in the immediate future?
Starting point is 01:21:18 I want to learn, like, I really want to learn the game. I feel like, you know, right now, it's just like play hard, work out, you know, do what I'm want to learn the game. I feel like you know right now It's just like play hard work out. You know do what I'm supposed to do, but like I Don't feel like I really like touch the game like I should like I feel like learning it is probably like the fun part about Basketball because when I learn it then everything else just all the doors up. So I feel like just me just seeing the best players in the world, cause that's where I want to go, I feel like I really want to learn the game
Starting point is 01:21:50 before I get there. And then even when I get there, it's just more opportunities to learn. Now I got in person, now I get to see, I get to watch my own teammates, how they react, how they feel about this, how they feel about that. Like who wants to be the first in the gym?
Starting point is 01:22:05 Like, who am I trying to beat? Like, that all comes with it. So I feel like just for me, learning the game is just probably the best part. That's your son? You sure that's your son? Right? You sure that's your boy? I'm not going to get the DNA test. I can say that. Yeah, you know? It don't matter. It don't matter.
Starting point is 01:22:25 It don't matter. I feel with this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Elijah, last thing. I see you rocking the Harden McDonald's team. James Harden. So you said Harden is your favorite player. You're a couple years away from being in the league
Starting point is 01:22:41 playing against some of these guys that now you've grown up watching and playing your game after. But how excited are you to get to the league eventually and be able to play against guys like james harden i'm very excited like especially just even just like hearing them talk right now like i'm really like ready to go learn that's that's where i'm just my head is at right now okay so i just I just want to build like, you know my skill my body Stamina like everything that I should and then when I get there is just all uphill from there. What's our show you were? I claim those
Starting point is 01:23:26 You may see me rocking those soon, but let's give it up one more time. 2025 McDonald's All-American Elijah Eremes. The first Eremes to make the Michigan team. Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Whoo! Yeah! Compton Magic legend. Shout-out Kobe in the building with the big hat. Shout-out Compton Magic for the show. Shout-out to the Compton Magic. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 01:23:42 Too much red for my particular liking, but all good. What's up with all that red, though? Yeah, what's up with all that red? See, Woof, you know what it is, five. Mm-hmm. I'm playing, bro. They say you see it. They say you listen.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Woof, I think if you get to the McDonald's game, they let you know what it is, five. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Red or white, boy. Not a- Red or white, ain't no blues. Hey, you should be happy right now. I know. I heard for top five.
Starting point is 01:24:02 No, no, no, no. No, that's, he's going right now. Like- Shut the fuck up. Yeah, he's on his official happy right now. I know I heard stop by no no no no that's he's going right now Like yeah, he's on his official visit right now Actually right now that's the he's going right next to you. Well go see you go to USC big right now He's gonna go Hurry up. You got to beat that by like 140. Exit on Sunset and make a left.
Starting point is 01:24:28 They got to beat it by 140. You can be late to that one. Yeah, that's a waste. They ain't got nothing to give you. You going to watch them get smacked by UCLA tonight? Yeah, you can be late to that scene. See how they did Reggie Bush. Oh, they gave it back?
Starting point is 01:24:44 Hell yeah, they got everything. They didn't give us? One of the years later. Yeah, right. They didn't want to. I don't even want that shit. Man, that man gave me some. That's the end. Shout out to Elijah Arena. See how they did on J-Mail.
Starting point is 01:24:56 But also, Terry Gill, now that Elijah has left the building, I mean, you've talked about this for years with all your kids, obviously. Your daughters and sons, all high-level hoopers. But just your approach and attack to the game. And I think the thing that a lot of people don't grasp, which you spoke about, they've grown up in a good environment, right? Privileged, have everything, really have no reason to want to excel at this game other than just a love for it. So what does it mean for you to see all their hard work is paying off?
Starting point is 01:25:22 I mean, to be honest, it feels good, you know, just to see, you know, your kids thriving, mentally, physically. You know, as parents, that's, you know, that's what our goals usually are, is our kids supposed to finish where we left off, right? And that is legacy, where you try to instill a lot of good habits in them so when they get to the real world, that at some point they kick in.
Starting point is 01:25:51 And, you know, that's what it is. He's going to go through whatever he's going to go through. Getting to the NBA, getting in the NBA, but there's enough, you know, good habits instilled in him where he should prevail. So, you know, like my daughter, you know, good habits instilled in him where he should prevail. So, you know, like my daughter, you know, in Louisville right now, Isela, you know, this is the first time she's ever felt coming off the bench. And, you know, our conversation every day is just about the mental part of it,
Starting point is 01:26:18 staying mentally focused. In your freshman year, you know, be happy for your teammates like you would be like, you know, they were happy for you back in high school, right? It's a program, right? Everybody has their own lane to race. You got to race yours. You can't look over to the side,
Starting point is 01:26:33 seeing what other people are doing, right? So, you know, what's gonna make you grow as a player, as a human, is defeating this part of you, right? Understanding that it is patience that you were lacking at one point. Now you're learning how to gain patience and understand the game. So she's doing a lot better mentally, physically. So when she does get in the game, she's actually performing a lot better now than when she was before.
Starting point is 01:27:02 The great thing about it too is that you went through it. Mm-hm. So you're able to tell them and actually be able to have a positive influence on it. A lot of people go through it and be, well, you know, like, this is what I had to go through. So you, it's like, yo, the fact that you have a positive influence on them and tell them, like, yo, you're going to be better.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Yo, stay focused. Like, that's big for as a parent. Like, you know, especially for the mentor. The most important thing I think I got from him, which is very surprising, to hear out of someone in this generation say how much they want to learn the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Right? Yeah. Because he's put in the work to be a good player. Like, he can say, he say, I'm a good player. But he can also say, I don't know how to play yet, though. Yeah. Like, I a I'm a good player, but he can also say I don't know how to play yet, though Like I think I'm a good player Yeah, but I ain't really played the I ain't tapped into the game yet and that's the shit we were talking about about the pin downs and the
Starting point is 01:27:57 Things that you have structure about that. He's like I can't wait for that I can't wait for the details of the structure of the game. And that, to me, is a brilliant, brilliant side. I feel better about the future now that I heard him say that. Like, he's going to make that trickle down. So three years of college, or should he just do one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, it ain't about him. It ain't about him.
Starting point is 01:28:18 He's not the type of prospect that you say you need more years. Yeah, he already got it. He's not one of them. He got the skill level. He got the skill level. He need the structure of, how we doing this pin now, how we doing the pick and roll, what your rotations are, so he don't have to go to the league
Starting point is 01:28:32 and they have to teach him that. So when he come in and he know where to be... I feel like a lot of young kids was like that, though. We just don't know that. Well, if you don't know where to be, you never been told where to be, because you ain't never ran any sets. You ain't never, as a defender,
Starting point is 01:28:44 went against this type of shit So once he gets into the structure college where the only place you have to actually fight for a spot This is the first time as a five-star. It don't matter you're running up against a junior or senior Whatever that you've got a fight for your spot. That's the best. That's all I was saying about the Brian shit Fight for it where you got to look around and like, they not just about to give me this because of who I am. I gotta fight for this. He is fighting for a spot, Bronny.
Starting point is 01:29:09 He in the G League. I don't even try to pivot off that, but I'm just saying it's like for him, he know that he got the game already, so if he come into the game. He ain't gotta fight for a spot. We giving you everything you want. Just come take it. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot of young guys, but a lot of young guys don't have to fight for their spot, though.
Starting point is 01:29:28 But that's why he come up short, because they didn't get challenged. Nah, nah, nah. You don't fight for nothing no more. Who's coming up short? Who's coming up short? You think, that's why you think Jason Tatum, that's why you think Jason Tatum's soft. All that fighting for shit is overrated. No.
Starting point is 01:29:42 I want everything easy. If I had the chance to get it easy, I would have took it. You don't fight for nothing. Don't fight for shit if you don't have to. If they gonna roll it out to you, go where they gonna roll it out to you. All that fighting for the... Gotta work hard
Starting point is 01:29:58 to get to somewhere. That shit is deep. So we asked the chat who is the better arenist. 57% said Elijah. 50% said Elijah over Gil. 57? I mean, it's still close. So, today's podcast... He ain't got a win yet.
Starting point is 01:30:14 He ain't got nothing. He ain't got a win against me yet. Oh, he said, I'm loving it. He said, I'm loving it. He said, I'm loving it on me. He got the crown on there. I'm loving it on me. You got the crown on there. You got the crown on there.
Starting point is 01:30:30 You behind this, God damn it. I see. I knew he was behind it. You got the Cemetery Larry crown. Elijah said, I need the special. I need the special. Go ahead. Cemetery Larry edition.
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Starting point is 01:31:57 He just came off a two-game suspension, so here are the details. So he came off the two and then played? No. He hasn't played yet. No. He was supposed to play tonight. So Jimmy Butler walked out of a heat shoot around this morning after being informed the team is planning not to start him
Starting point is 01:32:12 with Haywood Highsmith starting moving forward. According to Shams, sources tell ESPN, Jimmy Butler suspended indefinitely. Seems like we talk about this every other day, but it is the biggest news in the league right now. What is your reaction to finding out that Jimmy Butler has once again... Seen it all before.
Starting point is 01:32:31 We've seen this already, man. We know the playbook, man. Try to do anything to get him irritated so you can do exactly what you did. You called it. You called it out. You want your money. That's how this plays out. You called it out. Can we make money. That's how this plays out. You called it out. That's... Can we make sure we get the pills for Valentine's Day?
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Starting point is 01:33:00 You said on the road. Roe will make it grow. Huh? As they say. Y'all can keep that one, Roe. Y'all can have that on me. They said on the road. They said 99, they said the Lakers. They said early 2000 Lakers, right?
Starting point is 01:33:13 Back to back to back. Three-peat. Potentially the Chiefs in this upcoming Super Bowl. Roe already has it. He won't go three times? Well, let's get back to it. No, not with the same person. No, fine, fine. So Jimmy Butler suspended the seven games, came back.
Starting point is 01:33:26 That's not, that's not apoligical. OK. That's not apoligical. That's something I'll see with you. That's something I'll say. That's something I'll say with you. So I don't think you're going to marry him. Who's to be talking like that?
Starting point is 01:33:37 No wonder you don't give me the black book. Yeah, you better get rid of that book right away. Shit. Not the same person. So I'm just tapping into my, he said, back to back to back. What the hell is that? Only way you can do that is to be comfortable. Only way you can do that.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Only way you can do that with your white ass. I ain't that excited. I ain't that excited. I can't get it off. I ain't that excited. I can't get it off. We got the same. You being stingy.
Starting point is 01:34:02 I'm not being stingy. What kind of greedy woman wants back to back to back? You sure you can handle all of that? If you're a brand, why wouldn't you want to sponsor this show? We go above and beyond every time. Everything we do, make sure you holler that Rose Park. Let's get back to Jimmy Butler, Miami Heat situation. Was suspended eight games for conduct detrimental to team.
Starting point is 01:34:22 That's fine with him, back-to-back. Came back, played a couple games. They doing that blue pill to that? Back to back to back. They gave Jimmy with a roll, huh? Hell yeah. They hit him with the roll smart. They hit him with the roll smart.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Back to back to back, fellas. You better not pop up around here no more. You don't pop up around here no more, nigga. So Jimmy. Take your ass home. Fuck up and move there. Jimmy suspended the seven games, came back, played a couple games, was rocking the Suns colorway shoes that did not match with the Heat jersey.
Starting point is 01:34:52 Got suspended two more games for wanting to take his own flight to Milwaukee. Situation's going on out there. Showed up at shoot-around today trying to reunite with the squad. Was told that he would not be in the starting lineup for Haywood Highsmith, promptly walked out. So do you feel like, like you said, if I'm the Heat, I'm trying not to pay him his bread, can you say that's conduct detrimental to the team? You're walking out on your team
Starting point is 01:35:15 during a team-sanctioned shoot-around. Are they just trying to poke at him to get what they want? I mean, we've seen it with the Ben Simmons, right? We've seen where they pretended he had a cell phone in his pocket when it was just the water bottle, right? You try to make him do a couple extra line drills and wait until he says no, so then you can say judgmental to the team, right?
Starting point is 01:35:39 And this is all it's been leading to, trying to figure out how they can suspend him for the entire season. And then now you can stay home, but you don't cost us a dime. So they're not going to lift it. They don't give a fuck now because they got what they really wanted, the money part of it. So this is going to be the end of the Jimmy Butler news. Because he can go, you can sit wherever the fuck you want to sit, you can make your fucking coffee all you want, do whatever you want to do, we're make your fucking coffee all you want. Do whatever you want to do.
Starting point is 01:36:05 We're not paying you now, so we're good. But to that point, trade deadline, 10 days, February 6th, Thursday noon. We will be here in the arena covering it. Jimmy has a $52 million player option on his contract that he will exercise if they do not get a trade done. So you're gonna owe me $52. Whatever you want to do, I will keep showing up.
Starting point is 01:36:24 How much I owe you right now left? If he exercises that player option. if they do not get a trade down. So you're going to owe me 52. Whatever you want to do, I will keep showing up. How much do I owe you right now, left? If he exercises that player option. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You don't see it. From today, or shit, from nine games ago, right? But it feels like he'll get his bread for some of that, right? Yeah, he'll get some.
Starting point is 01:36:44 So moving the rest, he's going to lose how many millions? So he's scheduled to make $49 million this year. I have never got an NBA check. I do not know how it breaks down. So what, left where you got about like $18 million, about $20 million left on that contract? So they're going to take this $20 because he's suspended indefinitely. So that means next year money is technically minus $20 million. So really, if they don't bring him back...
Starting point is 01:37:05 They could suspend him indefinitely for not wanting to... Wait, for walking out? That seems agreed. Yeah, they just keep acting. That is right. If you walk in and they say, we're starting to hang with Heisman over here... They can try to fight for you.
Starting point is 01:37:18 I mean, listen, they're going to try to fight, but listen... Listen, you keep adding up. Bro, you keep adding up. That's bullshit. I'm scared to make 49. That's bullshit. What is he keep adding up. Bro, you keep adding up. Yeah, I ain't. You keep adding up. So what is he doing? So basically, what is he doing?
Starting point is 01:37:28 You walked out of shoot around? Nick. Oh, man. Nick, come on now. They tested you, though. I get it. I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 01:37:35 But you got to. He's falling for it. You got to right now, you got to figure out what side you going to lean on right now. Because if you lean on the Jimmy side, you got to see how does it look for the actual fan? What is the fan thinking? The fan don't know what we go through as players for him to act like this,
Starting point is 01:37:49 and you can have a justifiable reason why you say, I agree with Jimmy. The fan don't know what we know. So we looking at it from the outside like, hey, Jimmy, what is wrong with Jimmy? What is he doing? Why is he doing that? Why did he walk out of the practice?
Starting point is 01:38:03 Why is he showing up with the opposite team's colors on his shoes? What is he doing that? Why did he walk out of the practice? Why is he showing up with the opposite team's colors on his shoes? What is he doing? Now, Ben Simmons, did he egg this shit on? He didn't do nothing. He didn't say nothing. Who was his agent at the time? Rich Paul. Rich Paul.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Rich Paul said, hey, look, don't you say a motherfucking word. We got it. Facts. Jimmy, Bernie Lee used to be my agent. Oh. And Bernie ain't going to tell you to shut the fuck up. Jimmy, shut the fuck up. Bernie, you ain't gonna tell him.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Jimmy, shut the fuck up. Dancing with Bernie. He ain't not saying that. If I'm used to flying a separate plane, and now you want to fine me for it, that's weak, though. I'm fine with you because it ain't you but everybody else but i've been doing this forever but they know you're doing it now that's why they that's why they fucking with you i know you're doing it and we not having we don't like we don't
Starting point is 01:38:53 like each other we don't like each other you don't get that so i'm not letting you get away with none of this but how can you find me if you knew i was doing this on a regular but now that i'm not in there mother i'm not it's not a privilege....your favorite. That was a privilege, Nick. That was a privilege. Yeah, I liked you. Yeah. But you can't take that. I don't like you now. I guess you can.
Starting point is 01:39:09 Because I gave it to you. Nick. So that seems... The team should be fine for that bullshit. Because did you let it go, and then now that you don't like me all fine with you, you can't do that.
Starting point is 01:39:18 If work started at 10 o'clock and I let you, only you come at 10, 15. Yes. Because me and you cool, we buddy-buddy, and now you telling me, fuck you, I don't need you. You think you can come in at 10.15 again?
Starting point is 01:39:29 I want to go to another motherfucking job. Nah. And you think you going to come 10.15 now? Your ass better be there at motherfucking 9.50. But you been letting me do this for years. I let you when you were cool. But I could use that in the court of law. No, you can't.
Starting point is 01:39:44 The contract says you be there at 10. No, you can't, bro. The contract says you be there at 10. I was there, and you be late. I looked the other way. No, it ain't even late. I fly on my own. Let me fly on my own. But now that we got a problem.
Starting point is 01:39:56 It's no longer a privilege. Listen, baby. Listen, baby. We got these rules here, man. Listen, baby, you was sleeping in my room. Now you can't sleep in here no more. In the other room you go. In the other room.
Starting point is 01:40:08 He getting that money back. Huh? He getting that money back. You know like when you get kicked out the house, it's your house, right? I'm allowing you to sleep in when we cool. I'm allowing that. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:40:17 When we, when I catch you doing some bullshit, get your motherfucking ass out, huh? Hey. Huh? Try to go to court on that. Your honor. Your honor. Hey, it's what we call coming house law, motherfucking ass out, huh? Hey. Try to go to court on that. You oughta. You oughta. Hey, it's what we call, not many house laws, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:40:28 I get mailed here. You still get that, but where your ass at? Where you going to feed it? Where your ass at, huh? No matter, I get mailed there, you got to give me my money. At the Marriott. You got to give me my money, though. At the Marriott.
Starting point is 01:40:38 Warner Center, Marriott, Exquisite Hotel. Shout out to Bomb Boy. Keep it here. It's kind of long, my boy. You know how it works. They ain't going to find no way for it. They got to find a trade for him. Shout out to Bomb Boy. He's been here. He just got a hold of them. You know how it works. They ain't going to find no trade for him. They got to find a trade for him. They got to.
Starting point is 01:40:49 But look, no, they going to wait till the summer. No. No. Yes. Yes. I'm going to fall. The ball just fell in the water. Yes.
Starting point is 01:40:56 It just fell in the water. The ball just fell in the water. Nothing's happening. You stuck. No way. You are stuck. He did one of these. He did one of these. He did one of these., he did one of these you can't know a college football
Starting point is 01:41:07 They'd be running and I'm goofy motherfuckers see that and they drop the ball ready Yeah, they try to celebrate right before they score fumbled the ball this baby Now I Don't give a fuck don't give a fuck at all. Even if I leave you notice I switch my I don't give a fuck. Don't give a fuck at all. Even if I lose. You notice I switched my... I don't give a fuck. Because you don't get money. Which means if I owe you $20 million for the rest of the season, God damn it, I don't have to give it to you. That means next year I owe you $52 million.
Starting point is 01:41:36 I done just took $20 million right now. So in total, I would have owed you from now to next year, $72 million. You still owe him. You can't suspend me indefinitely for walking out one practice. Hell no. No, that's not it, Nick.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Don't stand on that, Nick. That's not it. That's not just the one thing. You being emotional on that one. It's accumulating. It's being a thing, bro. And they send and take to the.. I got you with a goddamn ouch. Yep. It's the fly.... I got you with a nickel bag. I got you with a goddamn ounce.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Yep. I got you with a pound. And I got you on tape. So you let me fly them on, but now I can't fly them on. You suspended me for that. Now you said I'm not starting, and I walk out.
Starting point is 01:42:15 You suspended indefinitely. You can't do that. So it started off, look, nine games, two games, now. So they done showed up there. And then it's other stuff.
Starting point is 01:42:23 They sent in tape. They showed up there. They showed tape to the fucking union and the NBA. These are the reasons why we fucking suspended him. Look at his effort here. We can't accept this. And that wasn't Pat Riley, bro. That was Spoh. Y'all don't understand that it ain't Pat and Jimmy.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Spoh's hiding behind, hiding his hand. It's him and Spoh. They recording it. They can't tell if it might work or not. But, Sean, we know who has the big whistle in the heat organization. That's because the money talk up here. But we know who got the big whistle. But all the bullshit.
Starting point is 01:42:53 All right, who do you think started Highsmith? Nobody talking about it. That ain't Pat Rowley saying, hey, hey, start Highsmith. Hey, you run your ship how you want to run it. Hey, we not fucking with Jimmy, Pat, so let me do what I do. But you don't think Pat can do that? You can't just paint somebody indefinitely. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:43:10 It's Spoh. Spoh saying, I don't want him on my team. He's fucking up the internet. All right, so trade me. Even if Spoh is saying that, you don't think Pat's cosigning on it? You can do it. You can do that.
Starting point is 01:43:23 He getting that money. What I'm saying is, as of today, I owe you $72 million. He's getting that money. Right? So I suspend you for the rest of the season. Now I only owe you $52 million.
Starting point is 01:43:35 I can bring you back next year because technically, it's only going to cost me $32 million on my books. And I can trade that. So I don't have to trade you now. And I can trade that. I can trade the $32 million. To me, I can trade because...
Starting point is 01:43:44 Right, right, right. Wait for the summer. To me, I can trade because it only costs only $100,000. You see what I'm saying? But debt is getting that money. Because it's only costing me $30,000. He put himself in the situation that Gil was talking about, though. Like, they wasn't thinking about this scenario until now.
Starting point is 01:43:55 You're like, see, that's better for us. Actually, we don't got to pay you. And we'll pay you less if we ought to pay you. It don't matter. $50,000 is at $52 million next year, but I took $20,000 this year off your contract. Cool. At the same time, we don't matter Million next year, but I'm 20 this year to our contract You don't know how to contract this deal There's some people that get heavier front and a little in the back. It don't matter. He could have got fit 20 already
Starting point is 01:44:24 You got a whole... Let's just say he got his whole check. It's bad, bro. What I'm saying is, let's say they wrote a check which is not in his contract. Let's just say they gave him a check for $49 million and he's just spending the rest of the year. And throughout the contract, it's still... What's the name? Per game.
Starting point is 01:44:38 Yep. So that means if there's $20 million left, he has to write a check for $20 million. Yep. But for me, I'm saying he... you can't suspend somebody indefinitely for that. They did. They did. I mean, we've seen it before.
Starting point is 01:44:52 I'm willing to bet that he get most of that money back. Nick, you think this scenario right here where you're playing on this team. Hold on. Let me give you the scenario. The scenario is you're on this team, the Miami Heat. You are. You are Jimmy Butler. Y'all, you and the coach got some spat, but you're the star of the team, Nick.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Everybody's waiting for you to come in. You come in, everybody's like, all right, we're about to run the plays. Hey, Highsmith, you in for Nick. You're like, what do you mean? Oh, yeah, Highsmith's going to start this game. And then you're like, man, fuck this, man. And you walk out.
Starting point is 01:45:25 How do you think, one, we looking at you as a team? And we struggling? And we struggling. We looking at you the same way we been looking at you. Like you not our real leader, right? Yeah, you ain't on the team, but everybody know you. So how the coaches looking at you? But they know we don't want to be there.
Starting point is 01:45:42 All right, so now, if you know you don't want to be there, you at this practice, and you got this type of energy, why the fuck would we want you near us? Well, we got this type of energy because you doing bullshit. Every time I've been coming back, I start, but now I can't start this time after you came in? Because you got in front of the camera and you said, I'm not happy in Miami,
Starting point is 01:46:02 and it's never going to be me happy in Miami again. But you started me after that. You know. You started me after that. I can't get my joy back. You started me after that. It don't matter. You started me after that.
Starting point is 01:46:12 Because we trying to showcase you. You suspended me for seven games and started me after the seven games. Now you don't want to start me. You can't go backwards after. Why did we suspend you after the seven games? You was late to the fucking plane. I flew my own plane. Okay. But I've been doing that. But that's the reason why. But was late to the fucking plane. I flew my own plane. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:25 But I've been doing that. But that's the reason why. I've been doing that. But that's the reason why. But you can't just start suspending me for shit you've been letting me do. You can't tell me what I can and can't do. I just haven't been doing it. Because we've been winning when I let you do it. Yeah, you coming in.
Starting point is 01:46:41 You're acting like a real prima donna right now. You acting like a real prima donna right now. You're acting like a real prima donna right now. I'm just saying. You know when the shit ain't on the up and up. When the shit ain't on the up and up, you know how I get. When the shit ain't on the up and up in the NBA, you know how I get. Shit start getting taken. We ain't doing that no more.
Starting point is 01:46:58 Say it again. When it's all good, it's good. They ain't being good. We have the Miami Heat being good. They just went to the finals. Two years in a row. Thank you. Last year they wasn all good. It's good. They ain't been good. We have the Miami Heat being good. They just went to the finals, like, what, two years in a row? Thank you. Last year, they wasn't good.
Starting point is 01:47:09 When you, okay, look. When you were starting with the Wizards, right? When you were starting with the Wizards, shit was cool, right? Got a little extra shit going on, huh? Very different when your ass was coming off the bench, right? You had to beat her on time. You had to do a bunch of shit.
Starting point is 01:47:25 When you started, you had more wiggle room to do what the fuck you wanted to do. Because I'm a starter. Right? Because you a starter now. Oh, Nick is our best player. No, no, no. You ain't got to come. You want to practice? Cool. It looked the other way. It's Nick. Jimmy ain't in that. That motherfucker's got the tight rope.
Starting point is 01:47:41 They looking. If you bark better, I say nothing. If you breathe. Say another motherfucker word. If you breathe, say another multiple words. The thing is, it's like, you know me. You still been starting me after all this shit. The tight rope and all. Cussed the cuss. Talked about the fucking Pat Riley.
Starting point is 01:47:56 And I still came back and started. Now that I, like, you can't do this. Yes, it happens in life. You know what's going on? Bro, he don't know how to read the room. Oh. That's it. You don't know how to read it.
Starting point is 01:48:07 That's it. That's it. How much money he need. Like, bro, you can walk in any room. You can walk in any room and you know, like, yo, these motherfuckers not fucking with me. They not fucking with me. I need to walk on.
Starting point is 01:48:17 You got to know how to read. How much money you got, I don't care who the fuck you are. You walk in the room, you can feel the energy. But I'm not fucking with y'all, though. That's the reason. Cool, but I write your check. It don't matter. You fuck I'm chatting to. You walk in the room, you can feel the energy. But I'm not fucking with y'all, though. That's the reason. Cool, but I write your check. It don't matter. You ain't gotta fuck with me.
Starting point is 01:48:28 If I'm not fucking with y'all and you still started me after I told y'all I'm not fucking with y'all, you can't just switch shit up on one day. What do you mean? Nick, that means you need to switch it up. That means you need to go from not fucking with me to fucking with me. No, because I'm going to stand on what I'm standing on. All right, so you don't think we're going to stand on what we're standing on? But you haven't been standing on what you've been standing on.
Starting point is 01:48:46 But we're standing on it now! That's what I'm saying. Hey, Nick, but now. You ain't been standing on it. Listen to what you're saying. You can't stand on it now. Why not? No, you can't.
Starting point is 01:48:52 It's a step, right? It's a step, right? Because today, you're not starting today. But you've been starting every time I suspend you. Every time you talk shit about me, I let you start. And guess what? But today, I'm not going to let you start. You're going to keep letting your girl cheat on you?
Starting point is 01:49:03 Oh, man, no. That's mean. Are you going to keep going back to your girl? Because I don't want to have to deal with it. I'm going to suspend you indefinitely now. Are you going to keep that your girl's, you're going to keep that your girl's, you're going to keep that, you're going to keep going back to your girl. Because I don't want to have to do it, I'm going to suspend you indefinitely. Are you going to keep going back to your girl when she's cheating on you? I'm just saying that. I won't go back to her in the first place, that's the difference, but she's going to keep coming back to me. Say it again.
Starting point is 01:49:16 That's what's deep. And I'm going to come back to the same position I come back into every time. No you're not. You lying. You lying, you lying. Nick, Nick, Nick,. Nick, we capping. You lying. Nick, are we capping for the camera?
Starting point is 01:49:28 Are we capping for the camera? Hey, man. Hey, man. I don't read the script. You better change that. I don't read the script. You're going to put your legs in the bag, too. I don't read the script.
Starting point is 01:49:39 You're going to put your legs in the bag, too. Before you get called Keaton, your voice was big in the house. But, nigga caught cheating, your voice will be in the house. But I'm not the one talking shit. You sound how you want to sound, man. When you ain't caught, when you got caught. Oh, shit, you don't even look at your phone. Soft voice.
Starting point is 01:49:55 Soft voice. Soft voice. You think Jimmy got that? You think he got the privilege? Jimmy can't do that. Is that a dyke, huh? You want to switch the whole conversation back to what we were talking about? I'm not allowed to go to the bar. What happened to your privilege?
Starting point is 01:50:09 You used to go to the bar every week. We can't go no more. Every Wednesday we used to go out. You can't go no more? No, you can't go. You can't go to the ball? I thought you was the lead dog. I thought you was the man.
Starting point is 01:50:20 I thought you played ball. You was the boss. You got to read the room, dog. You ain't read the room. Tell them. Tell them. These ain't trying to teach you something. Bro, you got to read the man. You was the boss. You got to read the room, dog. You ain't read the room. Tell him. You got to read the room, bro. He ain't trying to teach you something. Bro, you got to read the room.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Jimmy Butler, read the room. You got to read the room. He don't have to. He don't have to. Hey, man, I'm going to come over. Yes, he does. Yeah, you can't come over right now. You can't come over right now.
Starting point is 01:50:37 What you mean? What you mean? No, no, I come over every Wednesday. Not this Wednesday. Not this Wednesday. Not this Wednesday. Bro, if you're not playing, you need to shut up. But that's only if you want to stay there.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Whatever he said, that was it right there. That was the warning. Yo, stop talking. Stop talking. Yo, you just talking. Yo, you doing a lot of other stuff. The reason we say this is because you know their only goal. Like, the problem is this.
Starting point is 01:51:01 Their only goal is to take your money. That's all they have. They think you value money. So their whole goal is to take your money. That's all they have. They think you value money. So their whole job is to take it from you. Yep. Right? So if you shut up and you just said home, you get their money and you don't have to play.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Right? But... If they do what they did, take your money, now they're going to say, you can go the fuck home, man. You can go to Disneyland. You can fly. Whatever you want is not going to be on my dollar.
Starting point is 01:51:29 You have to know that trap was coming. Yep. You could suspend somebody for about seven games. You can't suspend somebody indefinitely like the whole season. This is the fourth infraction, Nick. Nick, this is your fourth infraction, bro. It's insubordination. Do you know what that word is?
Starting point is 01:51:47 You know what insubordination is? No, no, no, no, no. Okay, remember, I got suspended. You remember, I got suspended. You remember, I got suspended. I didn't get suspended for guns in a locker room. I got suspended for detrimental to the team, right? And I said, the worst penalty you want as an NBA player with the NBA rules is detrimental to the team, right? And I said, the worst penalty you want as an NBA player with the NBA rules is detrimental
Starting point is 01:52:08 to the team. Because that has no number on it. It can be one game or it can be 82, right? Because it's mental. They're saying mentally he's not available. And because he's not mentally available, we're going to spend him indefinitely until we reevaluate him. Remember, now I get to reevaluate you.
Starting point is 01:52:30 So I'm like, hey, Jimmy. How you doing? Did you get your money back? No. Just like Jai don't get his money back. Detrimental. Like, him, just give me the gun charge. That's three fucking games. Three games, motherfucker. Jai, like, this, just give me the gun charge. That's three fucking games. Three games, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:52:47 Jive like this. This is motherfucking gun. Three games. No, but detrimental to the team. Is there a problem? You're a problem. You're a mental problem. You're a mental problem.
Starting point is 01:52:55 And we don't know when you come back and how you're going to act. Are you seeking help? Are you seeing a therapist? Like, we get to do all of this bullshit. You fucked up because you fucked up. And you keep fucking up because you stop. You therapist? Like, we get to do all of this bullshit. You fucked up, because you fucked up. And you keep fucking up, because you stop. You won't listen, Nick. Nick, stop acting like...
Starting point is 01:53:10 You won't listen. Nick, stop acting like you ain't playing with a dude in the league who come in there, and you know what he doing. It's like, yo, he trying to... He tripping. Like, yo, he doing little shit. I know that person is next to me, yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Is he in the room right now? He's literally just fucked up, yes. So you seen it? But I seen him do some crazy shit, and still to me, yes. Yes. Is he in the room right now? He's mentally just fucked up, yes. So you've seen it? But I've seen him do some crazy shit. And still nothing happened, yes. Yes, but what happened when they didn't want to play me no more? He did it.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Get on out of here. Get on out of here. Come on, you've seen it. That's far beyond what the fact. You're not playing. You know what happened. When it was ready to stay, we ain't fucking with it no more, go on. Get the, you with him no more. Gone.
Starting point is 01:53:45 You're mentally fucked up. Right. I didn't get suspended for this. Yeah. What is that? One game, two games? What is this? What is this?
Starting point is 01:53:53 One, two games? Oh, no, he's mentally. Oh, no, he ain't stable. Yeah, he's influencing our young fellas. Yeah, he's fucking up the locker room. That's what they're doing with Jimmy. He's like, you're messing up. We don't know what they're going to do.
Starting point is 01:54:04 He might win a us on his plane. So now, a month, two months from now, we're going to say we're going to re-evaluate mentally where he's at. Remember, this is a private look at, hey, Jimmy, you want to play? Well, if that's the case, they can say anybody.
Starting point is 01:54:16 Yes. And just say, you know what you want. When we don't want you? Yeah, they can say whatever the fuck they want. Say to Coach, say Spogo to Brandon and be like, hey, man, how you feel about everything going on with Jimmy, man? And what did he say? Jimmy is cool, and they say, you know what, Brandon,
Starting point is 01:54:29 you're just fucked up on the team. No, no, no, no. Get out of here. You can't do that, Spoh. Spoh's just going to ask. But you've seen it in real life. Yo, what's the kid that played for Charlotte? You wanted to leave, too, though.
Starting point is 01:54:37 That got suspended. That was dancing. Kai Jones. Andre Blotch. Kai Jones. Kai Jones. We're on the internet. Start dancing.
Starting point is 01:54:43 Get your ass out of here. You look mentally unstable. Like, they just trying to the internet. Start dancing. Get your ass out of here. You look mentally unstable. Like, niggas trying to pretend he wasn't there. Man. Get the fuck on. What did Andre Blige do? It ain't different. It's the same room, man.
Starting point is 01:54:54 I'm fucking Kai Jones, though. You're dying on this hill, man. No, I'm not, because I'm just saying, it's crazy. It's just crazy. You let me get away with so much, and then. I got you. And you think you're going to keep getting away with it? I let you rob the bank.
Starting point is 01:55:06 I let you rob the bank until I won. Who got arrested recently? Who thought they was going to keep getting away with shit? You thought you was going to. And Nick, you keep saying that it's unfair that we're going to arrest you. You let me get away with this shit for this long. I get what y'all said.
Starting point is 01:55:21 Y'all let me do this shit for all this time. It don't meet the fucking. Y'all let me do this shit for all this time. It don't meet the fucking... Y'all created this monster. It don't meet the crime. It don't meet the crime. What do you mean? You got arrested five times for this crime. Every time I got arrested, I was really high. We let you off.
Starting point is 01:55:40 But now they watching us. You can't say, oh, because he's not working hard. You see this play, he's not working hard right here. Every time you start doing some weird shit off the court, they're going to start, all right, watch that motherfucker. They're not suspending him for this crime. They're not suspending him for this crime. That's the trick of it.
Starting point is 01:55:52 They're not suspending him for you walked out. How many times? That's fucking five days. I'm going to be honest. I think it was the dress, bro. You don't know what that is. I think when he came back with the dress, they knew. They're not suspending him for that.
Starting point is 01:56:03 They said something is going. They're just saying everything you said something is going wrong. Everything you're doing is different. Kai Jones was at home doing that shit, and they told that nigga, go home? Go home. Bro, when Jimmy came back with them dreads, they said something's going on. That emo shit with him, all that shit. Every time he start doing some crazy shit and come back,
Starting point is 01:56:24 bro, your ass is on the clock. But that's mental problems, though. They're going to treat you with a clock, bro. With a clock. I'm going to tell you how this is going to work. Steph on Marbury. No, he wasn't. He was on mushrooms. Stop it. Hey, I'm going to tell you this.
Starting point is 01:56:39 No, he wasn't. He was going through some shit. Definitely family session. But I can tell you this. That was smart-ass move because it was viral before viral. Yeah, yeah. He was going through some shit. Definitely family shit. But I can tell you this, it was going viral for that. So that was a smart ass move because it was viral before viral and the ego was viral. Yeah, yeah. Steph was going through some shit. He got millions and millions and millions for that.
Starting point is 01:56:51 Millions and millions. No, I remember that time. That was Skype. Yeah, it was a Skype joint. I'm going to tell you how the media is going to hand it out. A month from now, three, four weeks from now, they're going to say, hey, Jimmy, how you doing? How you feeling?
Starting point is 01:57:04 You ready to play? You haven't ready to play? We're going to say, hey, Jimmy, how you doing? How you feeling? You ready to play? Yeah, I'm ready to play. We're going to bring you off the bench. Cool, cool. That's the test. That's the test.
Starting point is 01:57:15 Then we make you eight man. Okay, cool. What's your weight? I'm in shape, coach. Okay. How many shots shape, Coach. Okay. How many shots did you take? Okay. All right. So everything checks out?
Starting point is 01:57:29 Good. All right. This motherfucker's still crazy, y'all. The motherfucker's still crazy. Get ready. He didn't pass. How can you call me crazy? That's the shit I'm talking about.
Starting point is 01:57:38 I'm interviewing you, motherfucker. How can you call me crazy if I don't want to give you my money? He's crazy. He can't come back. Like, what the fuck? Can I tell you? Can I tell you how? This shit is don't make sense, bro. I can set up an expectation for you. You want to say how?
Starting point is 01:57:46 I can say, Nick, he don't like when you say he can't shoot. So in the interview, hey, Nick, see, he's shooting 30%. We don't want you taking no more shots. Your response to what I'm saying is going to be based on whether or not you're mentally ready to handle, to handle, to handle it. Hey, Nick, so if I tell you, Nick, we're running this play for Gil, because Gil is shooting 50%. And you're shooting 30. So if I tell you to handle everything you want to handle, it's okay. I don't need to shoot that ball.
Starting point is 01:58:19 Yeah, yeah. I don't need to. Because you're trying to pass the test, Nick. You're trying to pass the test. So in order to. How can you determine if I'm trying to pass or not? And they tested you. You know why?
Starting point is 01:58:27 You're not a fucking psychologist. They're not psychologists. Yes, they are, bro. They sent a psychologist in to test you. All right, sorry. The rookie transition, nigga. He don't think... The rookie transition.
Starting point is 01:58:36 I'm going to work on my jump shot. Your name is not Jimmy anymore. It gets better, but I'm going to try my hardest. Okay, now we're going to play you now, Jimmy. We'll play you now. No. We'll play you, Jimmy, Jimmy. We'll play you now. We'll play you, Jimmy. No.
Starting point is 01:58:47 We'll play you. No. I don't give a fuck what you said. That's what I'm trying to say. See, he said that he's not going to play you. Because if I'm paying you $30 million, right, or $46 million, whatever he's getting paid, and you talking about you cool with being an eighth man, you cool, 30 minutes off the man you cool You crazy steel Where's your accountability? Well, they're slaves.
Starting point is 01:59:25 So you can step over my lines? You know what? I'm just going to slay you. You can step over my lines? You can step over my lines? I can't do nothing. You can step over my lines, though? Tell him about the gun line, y'all.
Starting point is 01:59:36 You can tell me. You determine if I'm crazy or not. I'm a slave. Did New York City say he was tired? Did New York City say he was tired on my block? On my block? You tired? What did I tell you to do, boy?
Starting point is 01:59:53 That's what I'm saying. And why are you not doing it? If you could determine if I'm going to do it or not. Why are you not doing it? All right, you know where you go when you don't do it? I'm going to the house. Yes, to the house. Take your ass to the house.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Now guess what's in the house? All the shit you don't like. You don't get the meal you get. You don't get to fly to where you want to go. Guess where you're at? You're in the doghouse, boy. You put yourself in the doghouse because you wanted to step over the goddamn line.
Starting point is 02:00:17 You habitual line stepper, you. Welcome to the gun line, boss. I think you're missing this part of it. I'm missing it. You came indefinitely for it. You know what I'm saying is, if I write your check... Mm-hmm. Right?
Starting point is 02:00:33 Mm-hmm. If I write it... Yeah. ...you have to make me want to write it. That's what I'm saying. So you don't... Just because we signed a contract, motherfucker, don't mean I owe you this shit.
Starting point is 02:00:45 Right. Right? Like, I don't give a fuck what you're like. If I say I'm not writing this check, you better tap, damn it. Prove, yeah. Prove it. Yes. Because it's my wallet.
Starting point is 02:00:55 It's my wallet. It's my wallet. But think about what I've done for you, though. But he paid you already. No. Yes. You didn't pay me enough. Think about what I've done for you.
Starting point is 02:01:04 You better get this tapping. You in the last of what I What you started and you started all this you better No, you start if I said Gil if I'm on the thing that's a girl Y'all would have got these numbers if I was there when people stay home shouldn't talk. What the farm is People like us talk like that. Yeah talking Don't you post it? Cuz you wasn't I'm saying. Okay. So how is that detrimental to the team? You not doing it? Listen. Listen to what he's saying.
Starting point is 02:01:45 That's a part of it. That's a part of it. Listen to what he's saying. You saying that and you still got to go out there and compete and not doing that? Just be quiet. That's why he don't want you saying it. Stop talking. Because you're not playing.
Starting point is 02:01:55 Stop saying what you wouldn't do. But when I'm out there, I play hard as fuck. Right. But you just saying. We done beat the fucking Celtics with a team that shouldn't even be in the playoffs. Go get those. But he didn't do what you said. After he called you out, you didn't do that. Right. After he called you out, you took us nowhere. So go do it. Beat the fucking Celtics with a team that shouldn't even be in the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:02:05 You didn't do that. After he called you out, you took us nowhere. So go do it. I was hurt last year. So are you hurt this year? But that's last year. We're talking about now. Right now.
Starting point is 02:02:15 That started a fire. That's not what burned this house for now. That's not what happened. But that's a part of it. No, that started it. That's okay. You could have put that out right there. You could have put it out, happened. But that's a part of it. No, that started it. That's okay. You could have put that out right there. You could have put it out, yes.
Starting point is 02:02:27 But you... Put some water on it. Not even addressing it. Don't even address it. Don't even address it. You can't get ready to go. That's Pat being Pat. How did he address it?
Starting point is 02:02:36 How did Jimmy address it? Jimmy came in to the next summer and he really didn't play. He was just on his 75% Jimmy shit. Came in this year, died in there, died in there. Listen. Died in there, came out and said, yo, I don't start playing He was just only minutes. It was a hit 75% Jimmy shit Which one so that's what started it
Starting point is 02:02:58 Extension this summer a pair of his shut his mouth because he was hurt He did get this but listen what we just did Jimmy say Jimmy, I don't start playing hard to win. Until after all starts. But that's, that's, that's, that's, come on, we know that. Bro, you can't say, bro, you can't get 250 million from me and you're only 75% showing up. If I'm getting there, bro, I'm getting to the dance. I'm getting to where you want to be at. But I got to pay you, dawg. But I'm getting there. Fuck your numbers.
Starting point is 02:03:22 Do I like you or not? I guess. I'm getting there. Nigga. So you I like you or not? I'm getting there. Nigga. So you got to like everybody. Okay. Thank you. That's what it is.
Starting point is 02:03:28 So tell me what it is. I don't like you. I like you. I'm getting there, though. He proved it. You can do what the fuck you want to do. If I don't like you, your numbers don't mean shit. Right.
Starting point is 02:03:40 It's my wallet. If you average 10 points and I fuck with you, I will give you whatever you want. Who lives with somebody they don't fucking like? See Who lives with somebody they don't fucking like I'm Every goddamn day with you motherfuckers. A lot of motherfuckers. Thank you. The best time of her life is when you're out of work. You ever heard of motherfuckers staying married for the same reason? A lot of motherfuckers stayed married for no reason.
Starting point is 02:04:16 When you're at work, she'd be in the house like, hell, you're here. No niggas, no niggas. Everybody like that. She watching the show right now like, shit, Tom, hey, kids. A lot of niggas playing right now. You got about 30 minutes to the straight, man. We're going to bury you, boy.
Starting point is 02:04:28 We asked the chat, does Jimmy deserve the indefinite suspension? 61% said no. Shout out to the chat. Thank you. Thank you. Unfortunately, you guys are not on the Miami Heat and you are not Pat Riley. I won. I won.
Starting point is 02:04:40 So you have no say in this. No, no, we're not. We just saying we get it, though. No, no, no. Don't switch it up now, motherfucker. No. Don't die on that hill Heat, and you are not Pat Riley. I won. I won. You have no say in this. No, no, we're not. We just saying we get it, though. No, no, no.
Starting point is 02:04:48 Don't switch it up now, motherfucker. No. Don't die on that hill, motherfucker. Don't die on the hill. I ain't fucking with the chat anyway. You know what? Because you all... Why now you don't fuck with the chat?
Starting point is 02:04:56 Oh, no, they was wrong. They was wrong. They was wrong. What were they wrong about, dude? You got to read the room, dog. Come on, that one right there? No, they were wrong on something else. Bro, you got to read the room, bro.
Starting point is 02:05:04 What were they wrong about? You got to read the room. What were they something else. Bro, you got to read the room, bro. You got to read the room. You got to read the room, bro. You got to know when it's hot. Period. Was it Wednesday? Like, Wednesday when we ranked NBA teams? And how many percent said they agreed Rashad?
Starting point is 02:05:18 52. 52 percent. Them fucking 52 percent was wrong. We're going to talk about it later in the show. We got one more thing to get to before we get to that. We will address that grievance. But let's talk a little bit about Ant-Man. It's a double win.
Starting point is 02:05:32 So after complaining about double teams to start 2025, Ant-Man has been getting to work as he looks to get the Wolves squad back to being a contender in the West. In a rematch of last season's Western Semis against the Nuggets this weekend in Minnesota, Ant had no problem against the reigning MVP in his Denver squad.
Starting point is 02:05:48 Let us take a look. So Ant finished with 34 points on 14 of 23 shooting. Three for nine from deep. He also had nine assists as the Wolves cruise to an easy 29 point win. Ant also set the Wolves record for career threes. His 976 threes passed Karl-Anthony Towns, who had the previous record of 975. So, Wolves got it done on both sides. Jokic saw his streak snapped in five straight games with a triple
Starting point is 02:06:18 double. He had 20 points, 11 assists, three rebounds, and seven turnovers in this game. After losing three of their previous four games, the Wolves have now won two straight with wins over the Mavs and this Nuggets squad. That Joker move. The up the roof. Let's watch the man-man. Logo.
Starting point is 02:06:39 That's that 32-footer, Nick. You know what time it is. I don't want to talk basketball. I hope we know what time it is. I'm talking basketball. I hope we ain't talking basketball. We will be talking basketball. Because this is nasty defense, bro. So back in early January, you guys remember Ant voiced his frustrations on dealing with double teams. You guys all said that he should have kept that to himself
Starting point is 02:06:57 because that's what teams were going to be throwing at him. Well, during the broadcast Saturday, ESPN's Mark Jones revealed that Ant Man sought the advice of the man that many considered to be his father, saying, I was told by someone in his circle that three weeks ago Ant reached out to Michael Jordan on advice on how to handle some of the double teams and traps that he's seeing. He's been extremely frustrated up until late. So advice has been paying off. In the 33 games prior to making those comments about double teams, Ant was averaging 25 points and 4 assists. The Wolves were 17 and 16 in those games.
Starting point is 02:07:29 In the 12 games since, Ant is averaging 32 points and 6 assists. The Wolves are 7 and 5 in that stretch. So what do you think about Ant-Man reaching out to MJ to seek advice on how to attack double teams? I would say first for your answer, you could have just watched that episode of Gil's Arena. Gil, I feel like you explained it very well, saved himself some bread. But nonetheless, what do y'all think about Ant reaching out to MJ for advice on double teams?
Starting point is 02:07:52 Gil, we'll start with you. What year are we in? The year is 2025. What year was Michael Jordan getting double? No, I'm just... 90s, early 2000s. Much like Cash Money's takeover. Michael Jordan getting doubled. No, I'm just... 90s, early 2000s. Much like Cash Money's takeover.
Starting point is 02:08:08 So the double teams that MJ was seeing with the illegal defense rules then wouldn't even apply here. Like, the concept, I get it. Just being doubled, what do you do? But MJ wasn't doing pick and rolls, getting doubled off of pick and roll. You know, his ISO work,
Starting point is 02:08:26 somebody coming from the baseline side, somebody coming, you know, he's playing with the ball. So that's a very different strategy. I mean, I don't know what the conversation is like, but, you know, it's two different styles of play. Who should he have text? Well, he can't call Kobe. Like a player that gets doubled, like Steph Curry? styles of play, who should he have text? Well, he can't call Kobe. Like a player that gets doubled, like Steph Curry?
Starting point is 02:08:49 A guy that fits that mold? Joe, not like that. No. It's all good. Like a guy that, KD, right? You're talking about like, you know, Steph is a different type of player. Like somebody's going to do, but it's
Starting point is 02:09:01 a different type of doubling. Right, so KD, Luka, but he's a different type of doubling. I saw the Katie Luca, but he's young so Katie Jason Tatum Doubles are we talking about? I Don't know. I didn't see not one. Maybe what what kind of doubles are we talking about him? Just period all the people was just trying just trying to figure out what is the double that we're actually seeing that's making them
Starting point is 02:09:27 throw the ball somewhere? Somebody's just sitting right there. Pick and roll doubles? Like I'm saying, that's what I'm looking at right now. Somebody's just standing there.
Starting point is 02:09:35 So let's play this clip back of Ant-Man and Denver and them again. Let's look at Joker's defense on Ant-Man in the pick and roll. For real. Now, we're talking about Ant-Man being a threat, right?
Starting point is 02:09:47 Ant-Man being a real threat. This is all ISO. One-on-one. It's a double. Nobody's running at him. It's all just quick goes. One-on-one. Nothing going on here. Nothing to see. Fast break. He's going to get something easy here. I think this is the half where he actually does it.
Starting point is 02:10:08 All right, slow down, stop. Well, keep it going, keep it going, keep it going, keep it going, keep it going. Right here, stop. All right. So what we seeing here is Joker. Look where Joker is. Do y'all see where Joker is? Yeah, but every big don't play like that. I get it.
Starting point is 02:10:27 But most of the bigs do. 80% of the bigs play would do what Joker doing. Now, granted, we don't really praise Joker for defense. Whoever's teaching him this shit should be criticized for sure. Ant-Man get to do whatever the fuck he want to do with this type of defense playing
Starting point is 02:10:43 against him every night. He can have 32 a game. But we talking about him complaining about double teams. If he was going to get double teams, Joker need to be up. Right? And if he was doubled right there, where would he throw it to? The guy that's screening. Right? Or to the guy who's coming to double.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Whoever the double man is, throw it to his guy, right? Rudy. So we look here and we're like, all right, Ant-Man comes off. This man's standing back. So if this man's standing back, there can't be no double. There's no pressure. Ant-Man actually visibly gets to do whatever he wants to all the time when he comes off a pick and roll, especially with a lazy big.
Starting point is 02:11:19 But we talk about him calling Michael Jordan to say, well, what do I do when I'm getting doubled in a pick and roll? What kind of patience do I need to have? When you got this guy over here wide open, you can pass to. You got this guy rising. This guy has to take the double. You can always throw back to the rise guy.
Starting point is 02:11:36 And then you always got this straight pass to the corner because this guy has to help too. But these are all easy foundational things that just, you know, you know. What is Michael Jordan going to say to Ant-Man in a double team when you just told us we don't have a reason to double you? Well, some of these guys got to stop texting these greats. They're not answering. Mr. B, why do they have to stop? If Ant can connect with MJ. Like you said, it's different eras.
Starting point is 02:12:06 But I want to see the film of where he's getting doubled. Last night, I mean, the night against Denver, I mean, well, he's not going to get doubled because... It's Denver. Denver don't respect you to double you like that. We lost respect for the fact that we was doubling you at first because we had a reason to. Because we didn't know if it made you uncomfortable or not. But now, we know not to double you.
Starting point is 02:12:25 We know you don't have a solution. They don't double. They're not doubling. For what? Because he can't run out there. Joker can't run out there. But why are you doubling? Why would we double you? You're not going for 50.
Starting point is 02:12:38 Because he can't run out there. This is what I'm saying. The threat that you used to pose to us is not there no more. Why isn't it? Because you're not playing the same way. Your threat on the court ain't Michael Jordan-like to be texting him. Who are you crazies here? No, it ain't about that.
Starting point is 02:12:51 No, I'm just... You're... You know what I'm saying? You're asking to how to get... Like... If you're playing ISO basketball, okay, that's easy, right? Like, remember, the guy who's defending you
Starting point is 02:13:05 doesn't know where his help is coming from. Exactly. He assumes. Exactly. Right? So you have an advantage over them because you know where they're coming. So if he's coming from this way,
Starting point is 02:13:15 you can fake this way, make him shift, go baseline, right? Or if you want to just cut through the middle, but you fake this way, he shifts, you cut through the middle, right? How fast is this guy? How slow is this guy? Always double. Attack the slowest one.
Starting point is 02:13:27 Every time. You know, whoever the slowest one out of the two, attack them, right? That's easy work. You getting doubled in pick and roll, I'm sorry, that's not his expertise because that's what he did. Does he know how to play basketball?
Starting point is 02:13:39 Quick moves beat double teams anyway. Remember? Yeah. But you're an ISO player. His ISOs, he's coming off pick and rolls or doubling on the pick and roll. How about this? Don't do pick and roll. Yeah, I agree with you. Go ahead. Because what year is he in?
Starting point is 02:13:55 Fourth? Fifth? Fourth, I believe. Or fifth year. It might be sixth. He should know how to play basketball. So, he should know. I mean, I think he should know how to play basketball. I mean, that just goes from learning. So he's saying he can't ever learn?
Starting point is 02:14:08 No, he's saying he should know how to beat the double teams in the pick and roll. I'm just saying, like, you were talking, because he came out saying, like, you know, back in the day, guys ain't playing against nobody, right? Well, like, we learn from watching from the past. So you got to learn. Like, you got to learn from the past. Like, you got to learn from Kobe.. Like, you got to learn from Kobe. You got to...
Starting point is 02:14:26 Huh? Like, Dwyane Wade, all these guys. So you don't respect the past enough to... Like, you call him Mike, it's like, well, Mike ain't even the guy you calling the wrong nigga. Right, right. That's the wrong person to call. If you really knew about the game,
Starting point is 02:14:39 you would be calling Dwyane Wade. You would be calling... He'll tell you right away. A guy who was in pick and roll, and we had the hard Show and try to double out of it Dwayne Wade you got Yes, I think but they not guard see that's why I asked y'all about what type of
Starting point is 02:14:57 Trap it was what type of trap is it because if it's a pick and roll trap, that's the split action go talk to Dwayne Wade But if it's I'm post-up, ISO, and they come and hit, you can't go talk to D. You gotta go talk to T-Mac. You gotta go talk to Tim Duncan. You gotta go... Mellow? Mellow. You gotta go talk to the nigga like, when I face up, motherfucker's coming at me. What'd I do? It's Kobe you would've called. Yeah, you would've
Starting point is 02:15:17 called 100,000 percent on the ISO move. That's where he got double. So he's facing up. He can see all this coming. I can see it. That's not how you play the game, though. Right. You're playing the game as a point guard. So you got to look like they're so used to being, getting the switch all the time.
Starting point is 02:15:32 Yep. Right? So they don't have to make a move. Now they get to bop against the big, now they're getting trapped, and they're like, what the fuck do I do now? You can keep it. I'd attack him.
Starting point is 02:15:42 You know what the problem is, too? They all play this, I call it, slow man basketball style, right, where they come off the pick and roll. The snake. Hold them. The snake shit. Snake them. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:55 That's Paul. That's CP. That's CP. That's CP. Think about the people who did it. It's little guards. Little guards that came. Trying to figure out how to create space.
Starting point is 02:16:02 You're too athletic. You got jokers back there. You don't need that. You come the fuck off and take off. Hey, don't go in there. That's cone shit, though, that came, yeah. Trying to figure out how to create space. You're too athletic. You got Jordan back there. You don't need that. You come the fuck off and take off. Hey, dunk on his ass. That's cone shit though that they doing. Yeah, it is. Are you coming off like you coming off and snaking him, holding him back here?
Starting point is 02:16:13 Like you two fucking bastards. It's YouTube and these trainers. Like he was saying about the Jason Tatum trainer, man, if you're telling him to come off the snake pick and roll like Chris Paul, like this is the best option to come off the pick and roll, you're a trash trainer. Because that's not his attribute to come off the pick and roll and play like Steve Nash was playing. Or play like, no, he needs to play like he plays.
Starting point is 02:16:36 Downhill. Go run and dunk on him. Downhill. What the fuck? Is Joker going to take a charge? He's sitting way back there. And he's still not going to take a charge when you jump. He's not going to waste no foul.
Starting point is 02:16:48 You got to know that as a player. He's not going to waste a foul on me because he's the only one down there. I'm going right at his head. He's going to let me go every time. John Moran, when he come off the pick and roll, why do you think he dunkles? Because he's not sitting there trying to sneak everybody's slowing down his game, but he'll do it No, you'll do it sometimes but for the most part you gonna come off hit you. Yep and keep his speed Every time like I'm looking at the pick and roll like you didn't attack him one at all
Starting point is 02:17:16 Doing floaters and so he's four feet back. He's wait looking in the lane. I look that motherfucker Are you gonna pull up for a mid-range. Pull up for a mid-range. No mid-range. They don't do mid-ranges. It's either three or duck. You got to pull up for a mid-range. We talk about double teams, though. It's like I hear, oh, they double teaming me, and I ain't come out here to play like this.
Starting point is 02:17:36 Oh, y'all double teaming Picker? It's like, bro, if we give you a double team, we're giving you a compliment. But you just gave us a backhand. I don't need your compliment, man. Don't be doubling me I ain't come here for all that It's like what start talking like talk to the play then you need a double team in garbage and I can send another
Starting point is 02:17:56 Stop start talking shit. Yeah, do you Plan it mama Girl watching you get help? Huh? Really? Wow. They doubling all night. Tonight, coach?
Starting point is 02:18:10 That's what we doing, coach? And what is Superman going to do? Hey, man, nah, nah, nah. I got it. They doubling me tonight. They doubling me tonight. They doubling me tonight. I don't want to play tonight.
Starting point is 02:18:18 I don't want to play tonight. All I do is pass. I don't want to play tonight, daddy. They doubling me, daddy. Fuck out of here. Where the daddy going, bro? Is that what they're saying? They're doubling me, daddy. They doubling me, daddy. Fuck out of here. Where the daddy going? Is that what they're saying?
Starting point is 02:18:27 They're doubling me, daddy. Sorry. Sorry. That's what they on? I need them to shimmy. I need them to shimmy. Don't text Kobe and don't text me. Don't text Kobe or Mike no more.
Starting point is 02:18:38 No more. This is not the same style. That's something. Out of all the players, you could be texting. Delete that text. I don't think you text. Let me delete, let me text Mike because I want him to know I'm talking to the best. That's all that was. Ginobili. What the hell did Mike say? Mike said take the Medina so I'll put the Jordans
Starting point is 02:18:54 on. You want advice from me? I'm going to give you some advice. Mike said pick the drink up. Pick the drink up? Get you a flask. Get you a flask. Put your Hennessy in there. I'll teach you how to get your eyes red. Your eyes ain't yellow enough out there. Your eyes ain't red enough. Your eyes ain't yellow enough when you're out there wearing them. You ain't doing no work. Your eyes get a little more yellow.
Starting point is 02:19:18 We need some cigars. You ain't never smoked a cigar before. You ain't dark enough. You black, but you ain't dark.'re black, but you ain't dark. You black, but you ain't dark. Save that head. And asking MJ for advice is, a smart move or a bad move? 78% said a smart move, Gil, despite your contention that MJ is too old to know what's going on in the league now.
Starting point is 02:19:36 No, it's not too old. I didn't say too old. No, he said competent. I said the style of play. How MJ got doubled and how he got doubled. It's like, oh, I'm gonna call Shaq on how you get doubled in the post, but I'm not opposed to that. Oh, yeah, that's crazy Seems weird. I mean it's not seems weird. It's just the name wrong wrong name You're gonna get double team when he was a rookie. No, he got double. No, he didn't get double He wasn't playing pick and roll Chicago. I mean he played he got he got he got doubled in the post in the mid post Yeah, yeah, that was when he got Phil.
Starting point is 02:20:06 He didn't get doubled like that until Phil came in and tried. Like one place. I don't think he posted up. Like one place like me. Yeah. Right? You're coming off pick and roll. You're trying to do all this.
Starting point is 02:20:15 You know what I mean? It's not like he's playing ISO basketball. Right. The Jordan was all ISO when he first came in. For sure. Hey, yo, can we talk about Nick's tweet? We got to. No? All right. We do not have time. For sure. Hey, yo, can we talk about Nick's tweet? Oh, we got to... No? All right.
Starting point is 02:20:27 We do not have time. All right, nothing. We'll talk about it soon, though. We'll talk about it soon. But before we go... I'll tweet it. Before we go, so last week on the show,
Starting point is 02:20:36 I asked Gil, Shot, and Brandon to give out some midseason grades for teams around the league. What'd he say? We started with the Lakers. Gil, you gave them a C+. Brandon, you gave them a D+. And Mr. Cemetery Larry gave them a grade of trash,
Starting point is 02:20:49 which was a custom grade below a standard F. You have your own grading system, as you let us know on the show. Well, Bleacher Report dropped their midseason grades, so let's take a look at how the arena fared against the Squares. So, Gil, it was about 11 teams that you picked. Shad, you did seven. So looking at it, for the Rockets, Gil, you gave them an A+, Bleach Report gave them an A, so we'll say that's in line.
Starting point is 02:21:16 For the Thunder, Shad, you gave them a B+, Gil, you gave them an A, Bleach Report gave them an A. For the Grizzlies, Shad, you abstained, Gil, you gave them an A-, Bleach Report gave him an A. For the Grizzlies, Shai, you abstained. Gil, you gave him an A-. Bleacher Report gave him an A. For the Nuggets, Shai gave him a B+, Gil, you gave him a C-, Bleacher Report gave him a B. Clippers, Gil, you gave him an A+, Bleacher Report gave him an A+. For the Lakers, as we mentioned, Shai, you gave him a T for
Starting point is 02:21:37 trash, below a F. Gil gave him a C+, Bleacher Report gave him a C+. For the Mavs, Shai, you gave him a D, Gil gave him a B, and Bleacher Report gave him a C+. For the Mavs, Shia, you gave him a D. Gil gave him a B, and Bleach Report gave him a B. For the Kings, you gave him a F. Gil gave him a B. Damn, damn, damn, I F'd. B-, Gil gave him a B-.
Starting point is 02:22:01 For the Timberwolves, F+, which is an exception. It means fucking trash. Damn, you gave a grip. Gil gave him a D. Bleacher Report gave him a D plus as well. A minus on me? The Grizzlies? Son, F plus, F plus. He like eating. He really do like eating. Pistons, A minus, A minus. He hates eating.
Starting point is 02:22:17 Gil, you had seven of those 11 picks correct with BR. Yeah. Four different. So those 52, so the 48%, we was right. C+. Them 52, you fuck off. Lakers C-plus? Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:22:43 Can't rank, you can't rank, you can't rank them 10 and then they 6 and then you give them a below D or F. That just don't make sense. I mean the one thing that don't make sense is how we can put up Bleacher Report's list and say we don't respect the media's list. Who says... Why you... What you think of Grizzlies? I seen you didn't, like, give them a...
Starting point is 02:23:08 I would give them a C+. C plus? Ain't they number two right now in the West? Yeah, you don't think they overachieving? Nah, because I think they was always been good. They just had, but they didn't have a job. They just needed Ja to get back. I don't think that's a great bump.
Starting point is 02:23:24 But they had the same team, though. Because they was number two when Ja was playing. Yeah, I feel you. They was speaking, you know what I'm saying? I feel you. They where they supposed to be. They was a different team. Yeah, but I'm not looking at how the ratings of the teams.
Starting point is 02:23:38 I'm looking at how they play when I watch. I'm watching you play. Don't you feel like, though, with us playing in the league, right, like us, like we know the feeling of how the season's going to go? Yeah. Like just off the – like forget the stats. Just like how we feel. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:53 Right, like you can't tell who's going to win or who's going to be there? Yeah. No, you can look at somebody and like, okay, these – They locked in. They're winning. They don't look like they locked in together. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 02:24:03 Like Houston. Houston got a – They locked in. I'm sorry, no. But, right. Like Houston. Houston got a... They're locked in. I'm sorry, no. But they're young. No, Houston got a problem. There's a guy over there, you know, I'm not going to... Whitmore. He look like he ain't part of the group. Whitmore.
Starting point is 02:24:13 I know who you're talking about. And that might be a downfall later on if they don't reel it back in. But he not one of the main guys. He play enough. Yeah, he does. But he's expendable. But you know what I'm saying? You know how one bad seed can affect everybody else.
Starting point is 02:24:26 That thing is Whitmore? Huh? That thing is Whitmore? Yeah. I don't know who it is, but I can usually— I thought it was part of the point guard. You just see that it's like, ah— Because Cam better than a lot of them guys.
Starting point is 02:24:36 Walking off the court and all that. Walking off the court attitude, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Because if we talking right now, just like, if we talking, like, and if, like if we talking about a team, I think the Clippers are going to get somebody up out of here.
Starting point is 02:24:48 For sure. I think the Clippers is better than a lot of people. In the West right now. I don't think it's about the Clippers. I saw them against... I think it's Norman Powell. No, no, it's the team.
Starting point is 02:24:57 I think it's Norman Powell who's giving the Clippers... I saw them against... Norman Powell, you're not going to give... I saw them against Boston without James and Norman, and I saw them against Milwaukee. But you're not giving Norm credit.
Starting point is 02:25:06 No, no, I am. Norm should get credit for doing something that wasn't being done, and now the Clippers look like a different team because he's doing what he's supposed to do in that position. I think the Clippers are going to the Western Conference Finals. I think so, too. I've been saying that. Oh, you're talking about what he's saying.
Starting point is 02:25:19 No, I don't believe that. I'm telling you. Regular season versus the playoffs is different. Way different. You got to be more disciplined in the playoffs. And one thing, the Clippers group don't have discipline. And they got Zubac. Discipline.
Starting point is 02:25:30 I think they can beat Houston. They can't? They're not going to beat Houston. They can't. Well, they will play us. They don't have. They're not disciplined enough. You don't think they're going to beat us?
Starting point is 02:25:39 No. Listen, the Clippers at what spot? Hey, Clippers-Lakers matchup is a good matchup. The Clippers is beating the shit out of the Lakers. The Clippers is beating the shit out of the Lakers. You ain't got no chance. They killed us. Huh?
Starting point is 02:25:52 The Clippers is beating the shit out of the Lakers. The Lakers don't even know they're number one option. I don't want to play them in the bubble. Get the fuck out of here. I thought we were the loss in the bubble. The Lakers is going home. Y'all got a 40-yard as your number one option. Hey, get the fuck out.
Starting point is 02:26:02 Man, watch out. The Clippers is getting y'all the fuck out of here. Davis is on the number one option. Fuck that. Well, we... Well, one. I'm sorry get the fuck man. Watch out the Clippers getting y'all the fuck out here Over here This is a playoff game. He said, oh, my neck is my neck. It ain't even wet over here. Nigga, get up. I want $150,000. That is a Gills Arena Mr. B approved crash up. The Clippers team that had all four of them, and he was getting his ass mopped by Lucas. But these guys are going to play. Listen, I'm telling you right now, the changes.
Starting point is 02:26:36 The Clippers are nice, bro. Half court. This is a fast break team, and the half court is changing. They're not that good. They're all right, bro. I'm talking about this. Half court is going to be there to play. They're all right. Half court. They're all right. It's going not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good.
Starting point is 02:26:46 They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good.
Starting point is 02:26:54 They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good.
Starting point is 02:27:02 They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. They're not that good. Yes. No, no. He ain't fucking with us. But these guys are going to be here. Half court. The rest of that team don't know nothing about discipline. Clippers going to the Western Conference finals, bro. See, if they run into the... All right. Yeah. The only team I don't think they can beat, but I still think...
Starting point is 02:27:13 Where the Clippers at right now? Behind the Lakers. Sure. Western Conference. 5-1. But they got more wins. No, no. Don't change that energy.
Starting point is 02:27:19 No, no, no. I'm not. No, they got... Oh, no. The Clippers are better than the Lakers right now. It's a fact. Not according to the NBA standard. A fact. Hey, y'all. Listen. They beat us, though, didn'tippers are better than the Lakers right now. Mm. It's a fact. Not according to the NBA standard. A fact.
Starting point is 02:27:26 They beat us, though, didn't they? Mm. Browns, 40. The Lakers by one, but they played two more games, so one more win. Y'all best player over there scared to go upstairs and tell him what he want? Mm. Come on. Fuck out of here. Mm.
Starting point is 02:27:37 Come on. What the fuck are we talking about? He on his way out, and I'm the man. But I'm not going to tell. Who the general manager? Huh? Kobe agent? Yeah. Get, get, get, get.
Starting point is 02:27:49 Get, get, get, get. Get out of here, man. My shit. What the hell? What am I supposed to say? I get, get, get. Get out. Get out.
Starting point is 02:27:56 You know what I'm talking about. Get out. Get out. Get the fuck out. Yeah. Get the fuck out. I've been waiting to tell you this. Right?
Starting point is 02:28:04 Get out of here. Hawaii's going to be Hall of Famer, right? Yes. Yes. Paul George is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer, right? Yes. They've been playing the playoffs. You said Paul George is going to be first ballot?
Starting point is 02:28:12 Yes. Mm. Mm-mm-mm. Kawhi Leonard, right? Mr. B, I saw you turn your head. Russell Westbrook. He is. He is.
Starting point is 02:28:18 You don't feel that way? Mm. Mm-mm-mm. He is. Oh, he is? Are you with the Hall of Fame criteria? I'm just being real with y'all. Y'all think he not going to be first ballot.
Starting point is 02:28:25 So they got their ass whooped by a Dallas team that's playing don't play defense. Yeah. Facts. That Dallas team. Because it's a half court. Paul George is a half. Paul George is the first ballot.
Starting point is 02:28:37 Paul George is a Hall of Famer? First ballot. First ballot, yeah. Why? That first. Derrick Rose is too then. That Dallas team was in the finals. Why? Derrick Rose is too then. DeMar DeRozan is too then. He is. DeMar DeR Why? That first ballot. Why? Why? Why?
Starting point is 02:28:46 Derrick Rose is too then. DeMar DeRozan is too then. DeMar DeRozan is first ballot. He is. First ballot? First ballot? DeMar DeRozan is first ballot. DeMar DeRozan is first ballot.
Starting point is 02:28:54 Is that a first ballot? Y'all don't think DeMar... That's crazy. Let me... There's a criteria less than you being your name and what you've done for the game. I'd agree with you. Certain people don't belong.
Starting point is 02:29:11 But the criteria is set. DeMar? You know what I'm saying? I'm saying for him, certain people should be... Paul George, 97% Hall of Fame. I'm saying DeMar should be a fellow. We talking about criteria.
Starting point is 02:29:20 What's the criteria for Hall of Fame? For you to be like, oh, Derrick Rose, yes, and y'all say no? Or did him say DeRozan, Paul George, hell no. What's the criteria for y'all to say yes? First of all, career. First of all, career. Of course he got the All-Stars and the first team.
Starting point is 02:29:35 You're talking about accumulation of points and stats? Career. Yes, career. Career stats. So Paul George has a 97%, so that's always first ballot. First ballot. Okay. Let's see Derrick Rose. I'm pretty sure it's going to be like 5%. So Paul George has a 97% so that's always first ballot first bullet, okay Let's see their rules. I'm pretty sure it's gonna be like 5% Gil You don't think that rose all right? No, he got hurt. I forget church temper. You got a tent there grows 10%
Starting point is 02:29:56 I know okay. That's fine. I feel like I Think that put him up there. That's it. That's all he's a boy He met what's wrong? put him up there. That's it. That's all. He's a one-time all-NBA player. I know, but he said that's his one moment. So what's Paul George's biggest moment? If Derrick Rose actually has a moment,
Starting point is 02:30:17 what's Paul's? He has a career. Fuck that. He talking about moments. You saying that he only had a moment. He said he only had a moment. Derrick. He's talking about moments. You're saying that he only had a moment. He said he only had a moment. Derrick Rose is the youngest MVP ever. And that's the moment. His moment, Derrick Rose's moment is the MVP.
Starting point is 02:30:33 He's the MVP. He's a Hall of Famer. He's our Hall of Famer, not NBA Hall of Famer, not basketball. He has a 10% chance. You're going to put Derrick Rose in there. You put T-Mac in there. You put Grant Hill in there. You put Grant Hill. T-Mac in there. You put Grant Hill in there. You put Grant Hill. You put Jenobe.
Starting point is 02:30:46 You put Tony Parker in there. Come on. You're going to put the Egg Rolls. Yeah, man. Yao Ming. Yao Ming made it. Yao Ming. T-Mac.
Starting point is 02:30:55 Yao Ming made it. I just want to know their biggest moments. Tracy McGrady, seven-time All-Star, seven-time All-NBA player, two-time scoring champ. That's his stats, right? And none of them trumps the MVP. Okay, now let's go Derek Rose. None of those trumps the MVP. Yeah, facts.
Starting point is 02:31:13 How many points do you get for one MVP? Eastern Conference Finals. Yeah. Did T-Mac ever get there? T-Mac only made it in the first round. Derek Rose, three-time All-Star, two was voted in, or all three was voted in, but two, he was injured, and he's an All-NBA player one time.
Starting point is 02:31:28 So he got voted in while he was injured? Yeah. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. So he still got to be All-Star. Yeah, he won All-NBA. That's it. There's nothing. But he got an MVP.
Starting point is 02:31:37 That trumps all that. All that. All them stats. An MVP, three All-Stars, and a... You get an MVP your first year in the league. Who else got it? Who else did that? You can't name nobody else that got an MVP that had a short career or anybody.
Starting point is 02:31:52 Everybody has a career. You have to have a career. He didn't have a career. He did because he won MVP. No, he was the youngest. So it happened at the earlier business career. And then he lost the rest of his career. So, yes, trajectory, when he won the MVP,
Starting point is 02:32:09 he was at a 99% probability of Hall of Fame. He's going to MVP. He is 10%, dog. He's going to make it. He's going to make it for sure. Grant Hill made it. Grant Hill made it. Grant Hill's in there.
Starting point is 02:32:20 Yeah, you can't even bring up no stats. You can't do all this. This is the shit I'll be talking about. You can't do all this with Grant Hill and be like, Grant Hill made it. You can't give me no stats. You can't give me no all-NBAs. You can't give me no championships. You can't give me nothing to say, hey, Grant Hill deserved this.
Starting point is 02:32:33 What was Grant Hill? How many times all-star? How many times all-NBA player? Who cares about that? Jesus Christ. I mean, we'll see. What's the MVP? He went to Duke.
Starting point is 02:32:41 It don't matter. Oh, now it don't matter. How does it matter? How doesn't it matter? How does it matter? He's the youngest MVP, the youngest in what happened after this. What happened to Grant Hill after you talk about it. What happened to Grant Hill after fucking Detroit? Man, what do you mean?
Starting point is 02:32:58 Seven All-Stars, five All-NBA teams. Okay. Seven years. Co-return. Five. Five. Seven years. Seven years Two time NCAA champion With the whole body
Starting point is 02:33:08 Of basketball MVP of the league Five All NBA Great teammate of the year Great teammate of the year Yeah Sportsmanship
Starting point is 02:33:15 Sportsmanship Yeah Citizen of the year We gotta move on But before we Before we get to Mosey fans Earlier in the show
Starting point is 02:33:23 We talked about Jimmy Butler Fucking Indefinite suspension From the heat It seems that Jimmy has not lost His trolling ability We got to move on. But before we get to Mosey fans, earlier in the show, we talked about Jimmy Butler. Fucking. Indefinite suspension from the heat. It seems that Jimmy has not lost his trolling ability. Let's take a look at what he posted. Oh, he's trolling already? What he posted on his IG and IG story.
Starting point is 02:33:34 You ain't got no job, Tommy! No job! You ain't got no job. See? See? Hey, that's funny, bro. All right, all right. It is funny.
Starting point is 02:33:44 You should get some of his bread back. Give him a game back. What is it supposed to... I ain't got no job? Yeah, Hey, that's funny, bro. All right, all right. It is funny. You should get some of his bread back. Give him a game back. What is this supposed to... I ain't got no job? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tommy never said, I ain't got no job. I know, but they never knew what Tommy did. So what does Tommy do?
Starting point is 02:33:55 So what does this have to do with Jimmy? Because nobody know what he do now. We know what the fuck he do. What he do? He don't play basketball. He don't got a job. You ain't got no job! Yes he do, he sell coffee, huh?
Starting point is 02:34:06 He sell coffee. That's what it mean. He sell coffee. Hey man, one job! You should have came with the one job, eh man? One job, yeah. See, he didn't hire me to do it. I'm promoting my coffee brand right now.
Starting point is 02:34:14 They try to run the playbook, not running the place correctly. I'm promoting my coffee brand right now. I'm going all out with my... And shout out Kevin Love's social team, I know y'all seen it. Y'all running the playbook too, y'all doing a good job. One job, oh man. Hey, am I a Hall of Famer? Huh?
Starting point is 02:34:22 Am I a Hall of Famer? Can be. You're right. Gil's Arena Hall of seen it. Y'all running the playbook too. Y'all doing a good job. Hey, am I a Hall of Famer? Am I a Hall of Famer? Can be. Gills Arena Hall of Fame. Would I make the Hall of Fame? I didn't win the MVP, right? So you don't want him to make it? No, I'm just saying.
Starting point is 02:34:36 I believe you should get your jersey retired in D.C. On the MVP list of people who's supposed to be the probability, I'm number 159 with my career. Black Father Hall of Fame, though. Can I ask you a question? Derrick Rose is 184. Hey, can you name me one MVP, one league MVP that's not a Hall of Famer?
Starting point is 02:34:58 Yeah, please tell me. Name one. There's what? Name one. There's zero. Name one. Zero. That means that we're not going to start there's zero name. Okay. How many row? I mean, that means that we're not gonna start making exceptions. How many for Derek?
Starting point is 02:35:08 How many I think just being the youngest how many MVPs how many of those Hall of Famer that won MVPs? Wanted that early in their career and didn't have it. But no Graham. You know did that? My first night like in here Crazy at 23, but yes them did that too. Right. Like, MVP is crazy. At 23? At 21? No, no,
Starting point is 02:35:29 no, no. D-Rose was what? 21? No, no, D-Rose was 21. I was a 21,
Starting point is 02:35:33 22? No, no, no. Because he did. No, 22, 23.
Starting point is 02:35:36 That along right there is already stamping me. Stamping you. I got my jersey with like Chicago. I was the MVP of the NBA. Your emotions don't change.
Starting point is 02:35:44 While LeBron James was playing while Kobe Bryant was playing Why do I all these niggas? I was the best player in the league one year For one year. I mean fuck I mean shit got hurt. Who else say that when I'm said he got hurt But who are you not? You're not Nick? Name name one year that Greenhill has better than Derrick Rose. What I'm saying is you got hurt, man. Name one year that you're not capitalizing. Name one year that Greenhill has had that's better than Derrick Rose.
Starting point is 02:36:13 His career is not better than that one year. That one year is better than Greenhill's whole career. Name a big moment Paul George has had since he was about. Are you not factoring in a career? It don't matter. You're talking about a career. You're not factoring in MVP. Yeah, they all got hurt, though. They all got hurt. Are you not factoring in a career? It don't matter. You're talking about a career. You're not factoring in MVP. Yeah, they all got hurt, though. They all got hurt.
Starting point is 02:36:29 Everybody got hurt. They all had four years. No, he played. Derrick Rose just retired. Naismith Hall of Fame is your entire body of basketball work. Your entire body of work. So Grant got two national championships at Duke. All-American defensive player.
Starting point is 02:36:42 So Tracy McGrady don't got the full body of work. He has more. No, he has less. He has less. So technically, Derrick Rose got in what? Three fights as a professional. He won, won a championship, got the belt. And then what happened?
Starting point is 02:36:55 You got to, what happened after? He was Andre Ward. He just cruised. He just went around. He just fought guys. They knew he was good. They knew he was the best, but he just ain't the same Andre Ward
Starting point is 02:37:07 like we know him to be. Andre Ward was that guy, but he just didn't... And the 12,000 points, you don't have it. Well, let's move on to most of the fans. I have a 21% chance. Sponsored by Underdog.
Starting point is 02:37:18 You had an agency... Download the app here. You had... Promo code GIL. Get $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pickle. Wait, hold on. Y'all are... If I have an A in my class, hold on. If I have an A in my class, if I have an A in my class, and you have a C,
Starting point is 02:37:31 bitch, stop talking about you in front of me. I can't have a C. Is that what I'm saying? I'm the smartest person in the class. He's saying I'm the smartest kid in the class, and you got an A for the first time. You think you better know. I feel the best. No, that's what he said. You say no, that's what he's saying He said because he got a No, he's the best
Starting point is 02:37:54 Smartest kid in the class. He didn't just get an A today the whole season the whole school year. He was a Year rookie He was A, A, A, A, A, A, A. First of all, rookie year? Are you rookie of the year? Come on, man, don't do that. He's rookie of the year? Listen, your emotions is cool. There is a list. Y'all got to take all that. That list is online.
Starting point is 02:38:19 That list is bullshit. That list is bullshit. And we're not using it. You can't name another MVP that hasn't been in your Hall of Fame. That's the problem. It's not emotions. I'm looking at the probability. The probability is right now, the end of his career, he is at...
Starting point is 02:38:41 MVP, rookie of the year. That's all fact? You don't think that's fact? That's Hall of Fame right there. Even if he didn't get three MVPs. Hey, can I ask you something? Even if he didn't get three All-Star. What does Gil got in his hand right now?
Starting point is 02:38:52 A phone? Yes. Because I'm not using my emotions. You guys want to use your emotions. You are using emotions. No, I'm talking. We was on the same court. I'm doing fat fucking fat.
Starting point is 02:39:01 We're on the same court. I'm talking about my feelings because I was on the same court. That percentage is not a fact, Gil. They don't use that for metrics to choose. They don't use that as a metric to choose for Hall of Fame. That's just a website that you're using that gives you a percentage of who would make it. They don't use that. Your percentage of your Hall of Fame career.
Starting point is 02:39:20 What's the name of that site so we can all look it up? Basketball references. Basketball references is telling you what percentage of what player has to make the NBA All-Irland. I'm not saying shit. I'm saying what this is saying. No, I'm not doing it. I'm saying he said it.
Starting point is 02:39:38 I'm using my emotions. I'm using my emotions. He said it's fact. I'm saying what this is. I was on the court with that motherfucker. He said this probability is fact. I'm saying what it's facts. He said this is facts. I was on the court with that motherfucker. He said this probability is facts. I'm saying what it's saying. I'm using my emotions.
Starting point is 02:39:48 It's what it's saying. What about Bob Cooper? This has nothing to do with me. It's what it's saying, probability. Probability. Three all-stars. Whatever they calculated, motherfucker is going to say the same thing.
Starting point is 02:40:01 What's the probability? What was the probability of him actually winning MVP? What he wanted. What's the probability? What was the probability of him actually winning MVP? But he won it. What was the probability? It was probably 1%. Wasn't it probably 1%? Yeah. I don't know. So now if he got 10% probability to make it to the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 02:40:14 He won a year. Did the next year he won MVP? That's plenty, yeah. No, no, no. The third year after that. But still. Crazy. We appreciate another spirited discussion here in Gills Arena.
Starting point is 02:40:23 We are doing Mostly Fans now presented by Underdog Downs. That's crazy. We'll call Gil, get up to $1,000. There it rolls, yeah. If we go by criteria. Special pick up. I see everybody here has Underdog already, but for everybody at home, go ahead and get it.
Starting point is 02:40:34 How many years has he been in charge? George's first ballot? First. So we asked the chat, is Paul George a first ballot Hall of Famer? 69% of the chat said no. So they agree with you guys. But y'all don't fuck with the chat, so it doesn't matter. They don't fuck with the chat.
Starting point is 02:40:47 Okay, you're back here. I'm giving away an NBA team. What is Paul George and DeMar DeRozan's biggest moment? Tell me. Because we talking moments. We were just speaking logically from what we've seen from the basketball Hall of Fame. I'm going to ask DeMar DeRozan. But he asked the question.
Starting point is 02:41:00 What is the biggest moment? Who cares? What do you? Because we're talking about Derrick Rose has a big... Derrick Rose. Derrick Rose. What the fuck Because we're talking about Derrick Rose. Derrick Rose. What the fuck are we talking about? Derrick Rose's biggest moment is 10 straight years of first team.
Starting point is 02:41:13 That's bullshit. That's bullshit. That's bullshit to me. Who cares? That's bullshit to me. Derrick Rose's says 10%. He got the same amount of points as Steph Curry. They call that shit Lebronto.
Starting point is 02:41:29 They call that shit Lebronto. He got the same amount of points as Steph Curry. Can't call my city where I'm playing somebody else's name. He got the same amount of points as Steph Curry. Huh? It is Lebronto. First ballot. He got the same amount of points as Steph Curry.
Starting point is 02:41:41 10%. Some of your biggest moment dogs. MVP rookie of the year, 10%. Let's move on. Somebody ain't won nothing. You got 97%. Let's move on to mostly fans. They ain't had a jersey retired up there since, Mike.
Starting point is 02:41:54 So we got one question today from underdog user, MattCost99. So we got one question today. The bar is due, too, though. Cook, Brandon. Cook, Brandon. I can't get that. You can't cook. You can't cook. You can't cook on your Cook Brandon. Cook Brandon. I can't get that.
Starting point is 02:42:05 You can't cook. You can't cook. You can't cook on your emotions. I am because I've been on the court. I've been on the court with all these motherfuckers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, basketball references. Basketball references ain't been on the motherfucking court.
Starting point is 02:42:14 Yeah, they out here on the computer talking about 97%. Talking about fuck that 97%. So you talking about big moments to be an MVP? No, we just said there's never. Every MVP has been a Hall of Fame. Every MVP. Fuck that. Fuck that.
Starting point is 02:42:22 But you talking about Demar June. Fuck that. Fuck that. Fuck that. Fuck that. Fuck that. Fuck that. So you're talking about big moments to be an MVP? No, we just said there's never... Every MVP has been a Hall of Fame. Every MVP. But you're talking about DeMar DeRozan. No, we're talking about Paul George and all these guys. Y'all saying that they are first ballot over...
Starting point is 02:42:36 You saying them two are first ballot Hall of Famers over Derrick Rose, bro? Yes. Get the fuck out of here. Crazy. So, question from Underdog User, Best Coach in 99 The more the roses, first ballot for all of them. That one year trumps anything they ever done. Anything they ever done? Ever done.
Starting point is 02:42:52 So if I get 12,000 and another person gets 25,000, I'm fucking crazy. MVP. I get it. I get it. League MVP. Let's be realistic. Yeah, let's be realistic. Lee, give me B.
Starting point is 02:43:06 The more it deserves, the first ballot. Yeah, and I'm at home. And I'm at home, too. You know how hard it is to get it at home? First ballot. Chicago. First ballot. Chicago, please.
Starting point is 02:43:14 That is fair. Chicago. So we got one mostly fans question from Underdog User Best Coast 99. How close is that? If the Lakers could only protect four players before the trade deadline, who would you make sure was off limits? Let's go to our resident Lakers fan Lakers can only protect four players before the trade Who would you make sure is off-limits LeBron? Okay, that's one thing Davis to Bronny James three and that's it And JJ ready
Starting point is 02:43:41 players Redick. Players. Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves. Gil, did you say Austin Reeves? Yep. The top third option in the league currently. So who do you keep? Only four players. Four players to protect.
Starting point is 02:44:02 Austin Reeves. If I'm the team, right? Yes. Austin Reeves, Darvin Hamm the team, right? Yes. Yes. Austin Reeves, Darvin Hamm, JJ Redick, and Black and Miles. Black and Miles. You said Darvin Hamm, JJ Redick, and Black and Miles. Everybody else can go. Darvin Hamm? We just going.
Starting point is 02:44:16 We just going. You mean on your team? The Lakers. Oh, no. Darvin Hamm. Oh, no. Oh, no. My bad.
Starting point is 02:44:24 Darvin Hamm. Oh, shit. my bad. Damn, my bad. My bad, because he was... He's stuck in the mold. He in mold. He's still in mold. My bad. Not Darviham. So, Brandon, you got your four.
Starting point is 02:44:34 Shaq, can you give us your four, please? Oh, yeah, the last four guys on the bench. Everybody else can go. So, Bronny, Trey Jameson. No, Austin. You got to keep Austin Reese. No, no, everybody got to go. Oh, they can go? All of them. We just going to start over. Oh, yeah, yeah. The last to keep Austin Reese. No, no, everybody got to keep him. Oh, they can go?
Starting point is 02:44:45 All of them. We just going to start over. Oh, yeah, yeah. The last four guys on the bench, the end, congratulations. They get to stay. We get to see the new age. Hey, hey, just start over, huh? Yeah, start over. Just start over, huh? Clean it out.
Starting point is 02:44:59 Because it's already dead. What are you keeping? It's dead. He said the phone. Bronny, Trey Jamerson, Col-call Jalen Hushapino. Yeah. Everybody else get the fuck out of here. Who you got?
Starting point is 02:45:09 Don't come back. Don't come back. I say connect... Bron... AD... and... Bronnie. All right, well...
Starting point is 02:45:24 Me and T, Austin Reed. Get something good. We went a little long today, ladies and gentlemen. We know how much you appreciate the show. Before we go, again, we got to send our congratulations to Elijah Arenas, the selected 2025 McDonald's All-American. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 02:45:36 Coming through, bringing us snacks. Yes, sir. All those beautiful things. But this has been... I just want to say, NBA ticket giveaway. Hit me up. Y'all want to get a piece of the energy. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:45:48 Hit me up. Get a piece of the energy. Sega. Right there. Sega. Oh, this is good. They have PlayStation. Huh?
Starting point is 02:45:59 They have PlayStation. Not yet. This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa! We will see y'all tomorrow!

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