Gil's Arena - Joel Embiid IS SCARED Of Jokic!! FT Bubba Dub

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

Joel Embiid IS SCARED Of Jokic according to Gilbert Arenas after the Philadelpia 76ers Big Man ducked the 2 time MVP Nikola Jokic and sat out their most recent game. The Gil's Arena crew talks everyth...ing NBA from the weekend including The Portland Trailblazers decision to shut down Damian Lillard. Gil's Arena is NOW LIVE. Every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Brought to you by Underdog Fantasy: Sign up here for a deposit match up to $100 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Change the game. Baby mama don't have to be a shopper. Welcome back to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! It's Tuesday. Tuesday. Damn, I like the coordination. Gil back to the living legend.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Had to do the Kobe. Colorway with the Kobes. I've never seen purple Kobes before. Huh? I've never seen the purple Kobes before. He was probably in college when he... We got every color.
Starting point is 00:01:03 We didn't get... That wasn't in our aesthetic. We got the legend Brandon Jennings back with us with his dog freedom And we got a special guest making his debut appearance on the show we got comedian Bubba Dub Everybody out there I need y'all to to remember if you want to get down with underdog fantasy Go ahead download the app use promo code gills arena. They will match your first deposit up to $100 you put it on your knee No, no use on fire. So I was good. He was going good with that. So I just had I ain't stumbled No, maybe let me know in the comments. He was good. Okay, we smoking this thing out
Starting point is 00:01:41 But since we're on the subject some of y'all are getting a little too emotional out there when your shit don't hit. I gotta use a proper verb, because I can't say certain things. If an underdog gonna hit me, I'll be like, nah. They're a fantasy company. But allegedly, Bradley Bill got into it with a fan in Orlando, because after the game, the fan went up to him and yelled, you fucked me out of $1,300, you fuck. You fucked me out of $1,300, buddy. Bill walked over, exchanged some words,
Starting point is 00:02:12 I think ended up slapping the hat off of one of the fan's friends, allegedly, and now he's under investigation for alleged simple battery. So start with you first, Gil. How would you react if you were Bill in that situation? Wait, you can get a software hitting somebody hat allegedly. No, I'm just saying it's a hat Who's from the Hat Company who's fouling the poor you can foul for just a hat hit Liz? Oh, yeah to hit the person did the body or something? Yeah. No if I was being I mean
Starting point is 00:02:44 It's your 1300 I'm mine Nah, if I was Bill, I mean, what do I give a fuck about your $1,300? It's your $1,300, not mine. Right. Shit, seriously. Yeah, I ain't ask you to give it to me. So you. Oh well. Who gives a damn?
Starting point is 00:02:53 Yeah. That's why, if somebody said, first off, I'd just laugh, because you fucked me out of $1,300 you fucked. That's too many fucks in one sentence. But. No, seriously, listen. I've been on the betting side of it, right? So I know how that fan felt.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I had 10 grand on it was a Warriors game and they needed 36 points in the fourth quarter six minutes left. They only had six combined. Step everybody out. Whoa. Yeah, I'm doing to see rolling everything they put Kid was the kid from Arizona Niko. Yeah, Niko man. Yeah, they down they down 20 already both sides It was I think it was Charlotte both sides three three three three. I'm like sitting like man, what's, wait. Hold on, where the coach at? Hey, I thought y'all supposed to be taking time
Starting point is 00:03:49 off the clock, and I'm sitting there. They end up scoring like 40-something. Oh, I tried to write a letter to Steve Kerr, like, hey man, what's going on in the organization? What y'all doing? Like, y'all, someone owe me money, goddammit. So y'all all heavy on social media. Y'all all used to dealing with out-of-pocket fans coming at you.
Starting point is 00:04:09 So how do you deal with those fans when they come at you with some crazy shit in your DMs? Or they tweet at you? Or they just saying some wild, reckless shit to you? Calling the police. Stop that shit. Quit. Laws in your life. I mean, yo, shit, I already know.
Starting point is 00:04:28 It all depends. Your DMs, though. Listen, my DMs, boy, I be gang banging on them, boy. I be dropping them. Listen, you talk to me sideways. I send it right to my girl. She FBI. Let me see his address, right?
Starting point is 00:04:46 LAPD, NYPD, Houston PD, I'll put your address up. This is your address, right? This is who you live with? You don't play for us. This is who you live with, huh? You don't play for us. You don't play for us. Hey, hey, you come back home around 730. Hey, you don't get it.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Somebody might happen to you. I'll do all that. I don't care. I think I'm going to just take the LeBron route. When he said, well, LeBron said, well, at the end of the day, everybody gotta go back to their life and I'm gonna still be who I am. So you're just gonna call them broke bitches? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Okay. Sometimes you gotta let a nigga know that they broke. Sometimes that shit don't even work. No, it don't. When you drop somebody at him... That's a whole nother level. That's a whole nother level. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:05:19 How you get this goddamn... Ain't nothing else you can say to me, drop that nigga. And the moral of the story though is, is if you're going to try and put some bread up for something, you might as well come on over to Underdog, hit that insurance. You wouldn't be in this situation. Man, that insurance be saving the hell out of me, man. I don't use it.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I'm going to take my L like a man. But every time I see you do it, I'm like, damn. I went three for four, I went four for five. Listen, there's always one fuck up in there. There's always one. Somebody going to betray you. There's always one. You just need one steal in the game.
Starting point is 00:05:46 They got half a steal and they can't give you that. How you a guard? You can't do not a one steal. That's how it goes, though. The deflection, nothing. Accident, just like, I got it. So whatever I pick, it always the opposite shit happens. Like I needed Brian to hit a three against the Bulls. He missed it. They took him out the game
Starting point is 00:06:07 You need one three. No, I just needed him to get over. It was like 21.5 over under he was at 19 needed that three day and I was like higher lower, you know I'm saying so It is what it is. But let's talk about the MVP race Heating up so MB Embiid was leading according to the odds. But after he sat that game
Starting point is 00:06:29 against the Nuggets on Monday night, Joker jumped back to the top. So he missed the opportunity to submit his MVP status against a reigning two-time MVP. Nuggets went on to beat the Sixers.
Starting point is 00:06:43 But it seemed like leading up to that game, Embiid has been sneak-dicing Joker a little bit. He did an interview on to beat the Sixers. But it seemed like leading up to that game, Embiid has been sneak dissing Joker a little bit. He did an interview with Shams for The Athletic and was talking about the pressure of winning a ring. Embiid dropped this nugget. I'm not a two time MVP. I never made first team all NBA. I never won anything. So why is there pressure on me to do something when there are guys that have won a bunch of MVPs and haven't done anything either? No, he wasn't talking about Giannis because Giannis got a ring. Only one man he could have been talking about. But let's talk about Embiid. He had an opportunity
Starting point is 00:07:12 to go in there, do some things against Joker, really impress MVP voters. He decided to sit. I don't know if it was his decision, but the Sixers decided not to play him. Do you think Embiid was ducking Joker? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I feel like he didn't want to mess up his stats going against Joker, especially he don't want to look bad since the MVP race is close.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Okay. So I figure he'd probably say his's Bigfoot hurting the game as usual. So, yeah, he was ducking the ovaries. But let's just be real. Last time they played, Embiid dropped 47-18. So did he feel like he did it? It's like one of them things
Starting point is 00:07:54 when you go into the draft or the combine, you're like, I already did enough. I'm not going to work out here. Actually, sometimes that you think sitting out, you know, not messing up actually helps you. sitting out, you know, not messing up actually helps you.
Starting point is 00:08:06 In hindsight, you know, it probably did look good that he didn't sit out. I mean, that he did sit out and he don't, you know, because he had, what, 46 and what? 47 and 18. And he didn't go to that, but like, oh, man. What was that 47 doing? Was it in Philly or Dilma? It was in Philly. Yeah, he ain't got no win in Dilma.
Starting point is 00:08:24 No. That's wild. I think he done, you know. I no winning them. That's why that out. I think you know, I think you know, no No, I mean cuz this is like you towards the end of the season This is one of the biggest matchups everybody been talking about it We've been talking about the MVP race the last what we can have So this is your time where you can show everybody like no I am the MVP and you carry that on to the playoffs So it was just kind of like all right. Well, here we go again like
Starting point is 00:08:45 Yeah, you ducking the fade. The one thing he said that really just tells you everything. I've never made first team. I was the best center in the NBA, never made first team. Yeah, so you ain't right about that. Right? You're the best center in the NBA. How are you not making first team?
Starting point is 00:09:03 Like you, there's something you doing. Shit like that. Right? Yeah. You're the best center in the NBA. How are you not making first team? There's something you doing. Shit like that. Running. Yeah. He's a runner, he's a track star. Fuck. Both of y'all have played in Denver in your career.
Starting point is 00:09:16 For an average human being who will never play in the league, what's it like playing in that altitude? It's tough. It's tough because usually that back-to-back is in Utah, then Denver. Yep. So you get like, you probably go from like,
Starting point is 00:09:30 ours used to be from LA to Utah, then Denver. And it's like, by the time you get to Denver, you're just ready to get back home because it's that last game.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Yep, because Denver's always usually like that. It's always like that last game, five and seven nights. So you just kind of like, that's the toughest one. But if you can get that one,
Starting point is 00:09:44 and they were always good too. They had Chauncey, J.R. Smith, Melo, Kenyon Martin, so they was always good. For those that don't know, I was out in Utah for that All-Star game. That air was musty as shit. Hell yeah, boy. Hell, man. It sneaked up.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I woke up, I thought I had the Rona or some shit. I couldn't breathe. I was like Arnold in the one joint. Couldn't breathe. My eyes was popping out of my head. I'd never been there before. So I can only imagine y'all having to actually play a game there, hop on a flight, go to Denver in the highest altitude,
Starting point is 00:10:10 lungs burning, and hoop. But consensus is y'all feel like MB, Doug Joker. No, fuck yeah. He did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just had 46 and 18. Yep. He's scared of you.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Right? He's scared of you. Right? He's scared of you. So what you... Easy work. Yep. Easy work. Come on. And you do have something to prove.
Starting point is 00:10:33 And that would have been that right there. After that, if you had anywhere from, shit, 33 on, they was giving you... Shit, come on. Black media is trying to give you MVP and he got down. It's not strong enough. Them 68 percenters is really... They're trying to give it. I mean, they're trying to give you MVP and he got down. It's not strong enough. Them 68 percenters is really- They trying to give it to you. The costly jokers don't want you two years in the row anyway, so they trying to really
Starting point is 00:10:52 give it to you. Listen, be honest, I don't want to give a fuck. It's all Europeans anyway. Give it. Give it. Give it. Give it. Give it.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Give it. Give it. Give it. Give it. Give going to lie to you, man. You look at the three candidates, you're like, where's number four? Who's number four? Is that Tatum? He lingering. Yeah. Come on, Tatum. You should do something.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Have a 65 or a 70 out there, man, so I can throw you up in there. So let's pretend like they were going to diversify the MVP voting a little bit, make it a little bit blacker. Y'all each get an MVP vote. Gil, I'll start with you. Who is your MVP right now? You said black You said black that's the mayor diversifying no no no they're adding y'all on his voter
Starting point is 00:11:36 So we didn't I think it's like 22% we gonna get it up 24 20 ball from voting right now, it's Joker. My shit ain't changed. Joker? That's what I said. Greek?
Starting point is 00:11:55 Embiid. My shit ain't changed. I ain't going to flip-flop from game to game. I'm going Giannis. He's been quiet. He's been carrying the team. When Middleton was down, they will be in the finals this year So I mean, I think he's just gonna run the table, but I'm picking Giannis
Starting point is 00:12:11 He's on the number one team and that used to be a part of the criteria the best player best team Yes, numbers are all comparable above it up who you got? Jokic and Beague and Giannis. Okay We're jokers so we're not biased on this show. We rocking. You rocking with the Europeans, Gil? I only got three Europeans. There's only three Europeans in the race. There's only three Europeans in the race. You could have snuck somebody in.
Starting point is 00:12:30 All right, let's talk a little bit, this will be the last thing on this subject, but analytics. Now, it seems like nowadays analytics is really taking hold of the game. Everybody's talking about analytics. Embiid had this to say on how analytics is influencing the game. Everybody's talking about analytics. Embiid had this to say on how analytics is influencing the game. You can talk about analytics all you want. When you got some guys in the league, the eye test tells you that they're not good defensively, but analytics tell you they're the best defenders. That's why analytics don't make sense at all. I don't make the rules. I don't choose whatever criteria that they use. So it's really about whatever people's preferences are. Feels like another
Starting point is 00:13:03 shot at Joker, because of those three I would say Joker is the lowest defensively, but people will try to bring those analytics in to tell you that he's a good defender Not really sure how important is analytics versus the eye test Listen analytics started with agents and negotiating contracts. That's where analytics came from. So when someone played like 12 minutes, average six and five, an agent would go in there and use the analytics. Or if you played 24 minutes or 48 minutes, boom, boom. And then that's how people was getting these contracts.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Like, how the fuck he get... Because I remember Kenya Martin was like, yo, y'all just paid a man 40 million for averaging three and three. Give me 80 million, I'll give you 66. Right? I'll give you 66. So that's how analytics came in. But in the sport, if you're trying to make someone look good, look better than they are, you use analytics. Like Embiid, you're trying to make someone look good, look better than they are, you use analytics.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Like, Embiid, you're not a great defensive player. Analytics says you look better than you really are. Analytics has you as the MVP, and I think you're one of the laziest people out there. When it comes to your talent versus your output, you said it yourself, I've never been on first team. Exactly. That's the reason why. But analytics will tell you, you should have been four-time, five-time all NBA. So it just depends on how you want to use it.
Starting point is 00:14:32 I like the eye test. I can see, okay, he's scared of this person. Okay, he's gritty. All right, the fourth quarter, that's a dog right there. He going to be in fourth quarter. He's scared of the fourth quarter. The eye test tells you how the game is because it changes to situations The bigger the game is the situations that you're in so I think it just go by game by game to
Starting point is 00:14:54 It's a feel that's gonna show you Four quarter two minutes left you start getting shivery. That ball get in. You know what I'm saying? You can tell. And that's shit that y'all can see when y'all in the game. Like Draymond talked about some of his teammates
Starting point is 00:15:12 being afraid of LeBron. That's something I'm sure y'all can notice on the bench. What teammates? Who? What teammates though? We slandering on you. Whoever they are, they no longer there. Draymond Green?
Starting point is 00:15:22 Huh? Man, y'all seen Coming to America. That man, that dude in that barbershop. Uh-huh. That's Draymond. I swear Draymond been here before. I swear. I love Draymond real talk.
Starting point is 00:15:35 He the one that put the chicken in the church. If y'all know what I'm talking about, he the one that put the chicken in the collection place. Donations. That's Draymond Green. I promise you that's him. He said he been here before. All right. Well, let's talk about these Los Angeles Lakers. More specifically, LeBron Raymond James Sr.
Starting point is 00:15:51 He gets his full name. He missed 13 games, Gil. Made his return Sunday, missing literally a month exactly. Coming off the bench for just the second time in his career. But Lakers got smacked by Pat Bev and the Bulls. Now, Bubba Dub, you got on the socials, and you had this to say about it. I can't, I can't, I can't motherfucking hear y'all right now. LeBron, stop all that motherfucking cryptic text.
Starting point is 00:16:16 No one believe her. You were no one believe her until they made them trades. Now, since we back in the mix, when you come back, you better not make our offense stagnant. I know that. When you catch it, it better be hopper tail, passing the ball around. But right now, we got chemistry. Real attention.
Starting point is 00:16:40 After the game, LeBron said he had a torn tendon and went to two doctors not one but two Who suggested that he have season-ending surgery then he went to his words not mine the LeBron James of feet Who said that he didn't need to have surgery he could come back So that's what ultimately impacted his decision to come back on the court So what you think about LeBron coming back for the Lakers trying to make this playoff push? Where do you say he went? Huh?
Starting point is 00:17:05 Because I need, look, my knee hurt, right? You need the LeBron dance. This one and this one, right? I need that magical doctor, okay? I don't give a fuck what he do. As long as I ain't got to feel no pain, I won't end on this. Some have speculated he might have went to Germany. He might have got the deer antler spread.
Starting point is 00:17:21 There might be some different things going on in motion. Show me the flight. Allegedly. Give me the flight. Ohedly. Give me the flight. Oh, listen. For that Germany, so since I was a part of that, the Germany doc, that shit. So the reason they go to Germany is because you can use things there that you can't use here in the States.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Okay. Kobe went over there, right? Yeah, Kobe went over there. And then the main guy is there. But they have offices here. They have two offices the last time I checked. One in Santa Monica and one in New York. So the doctor kneeling in New York, so he does the shot.
Starting point is 00:17:57 But just for athletes, to be honest, for athletes, it does wear off. Those shots do wear off maybe a month two months regular person probably you got a year with them pain free okay but now I won't I won't I won't that uh LeBron James foot doctor to help my need see if you do knees too yeah Brandon. What you think about Brian coming back for this playoff push? Well Lakers need it. They're right there And you know when the Lakers in the playoffs the city is always lit So, you know, we you know, I'm a diehard Laker fan over here. So I'm rolling with the Lakers
Starting point is 00:18:40 We got me we got Lakers fans across the couch. Yeah, but yeah, but I don't give a damn about brown foot. I don't want to hear that. Who you went to see, what, which doctor, none of that shit. Come out and ball. He making excuses, man. So if some shit don't go right, hey man, I told you how my foot would messed up. I supposed to have surgery. I don't want to hear none of that shit.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I don't want that shit in the locker room, in the players' ear, none of that shit. Your big ass back, you have to play. Simple as that. I don't care about how many people you want to see. You spend a million dollars a year on your body. You should never get hurt. That's the way I look at it. And me personally, I don't think he went to Germany.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I think, you know, allegedly, he might have, you know, same shit Barry Bonds had. I leave it at that. You know what I'm saying? And ball out. And I don't have a problem with that. Because I need some of myself. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Allegedly, that means they can't do shit about it. Oh, look at this. She come back jumping out the gym on her broke foot. Ain't no fucking way. But you talk about Bron. Lakers seem to be building some team chemistry. I think they were 10-6 after the All-Star break. Cooking a little bit.
Starting point is 00:19:40 That's like the eighth best record in the league from that point on. AD was doing his thing. AD dropped 37 on the Thunder. Bron comes back. AD takes eight shots. We've talked about this shit on the show before. Is it on Bron or is it on AD? You go ahead.
Starting point is 00:19:54 It's on AD. You got to be you. Just because Bron come back, that don't mean you got to stop being you. Eight shots is ridiculous. You wasn't doing that. Just stay the same. Just stay the same. That's how I feel about AD. Just be you. You weren't doing that. Just stay the same. Just stay the same. That's how I feel about AD.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Just be you. I can tell you this. If I'm Brian, and I... First of all, if I'm Brian and I came back and I only missed a month, ain't no coming off the bench. Shit, don't play me. Don't play me. You ain't fucking up my stats. Second... He lost that coming off the bench. Shit, don't play me. Don't play me. You ain't fucking on my stats. Second...
Starting point is 00:20:28 He lost that coming off the bench. He don't come off the bench. No, no, no. We don't do that. Second, AD better take eight shots if I come back. The key back. The key back. He might got their shots back. Not right now. What? Not right now. Who?
Starting point is 00:20:45 AD's been balling. Who? So I got to like chill out because you came back. Take somebody else's shot. Take Reeves' shot. I think Kobe says it best, right, when he came back every time. Yeah, but that's Kobe though. All right, captain's back. But they got to be.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Everybody else gets back. They ain't got no league. They ain't got no coach. Bumpy. That's Bumpy showing AD. Look how aggressive you is. I look when LeBron come back, you pass the ground. They ain't got no league. They ain't got no coach. Bumpy. That's Bumpy showing AD. Look how aggressive you is. I look when LeBron come back, you pass the ground. We ain't going to have all that.
Starting point is 00:21:09 I call both of them in the room. LeBron, I love you. Four rings. You got the scoring. You got the scoring. You got the scoring record. Good. But this AD team.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Offense go through AD. Who going to say that? No, no. Who going to say that? I'm saying Bumpy should say that. Hell. Carver Hill. He's as a coach. You're calling Bumpy? But say that? I'm saying Bumpy should say that. Hell. Darby Ham. He's as a coach.
Starting point is 00:21:26 You call him Bumpy? But I know what you're saying, but he ain't. That's the whole point. I don't even know what, I don't even know. Hey, that's the problem. No, that would never happen. No, no, no. Where did you get the nickname from?
Starting point is 00:21:37 He got that bump right there. That's his name, Bumpy Darby Ham. And I know what the people gonna say. I don't care how it got there. I know how it got there. It's still a bump. That's all I'm saying. If he could bust it, he would have been there and bust it.
Starting point is 00:21:50 I'm just saying. As a legal, you got to sit both players down. And LeBron would listen. LeBron is a player that's going to listen. The fucked up thing is when he said Bumpy, I knew exactly who he was talking about. Bro, we not. Bro. I knew exactly who he was talking about from the start. I was just waiting
Starting point is 00:22:06 for y'all to say something. I'm saying, bro, you can't shoot 35 foot threes no more. You want to be a rookie coach, LeBron James. I know. I get it. I need to be in there
Starting point is 00:22:22 somewhere as an advisor. I take the blunt blame of you're trash tonight, bro. 0 for 10 from the three-point line. It ain't you. Oh, you call him trash? Yeah. In the locker room? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Not trash tonight. Not like trash person. I probably wouldn't be here, bro. I'd probably get fired. No, no, no. You're going to get that. You're going to get that. But. No, no, no. You're going to get that. I'd probably get fired. You're going to get that.
Starting point is 00:22:46 It's going to help me. You're going to get jealous. You're going to get taxed. Your husband's out of here. Brian going to tell you to get ready to learn Chinese, buddy. Listen, I can tell you this. They don't watch film. With the star player, they don't watch film.
Starting point is 00:22:59 I know. I know. Everybody must know. You can see who fought it was. Yeah, so AD, you see you should have been helping right there. Reeves, look at that. Bron got burnt. He going to say, everybody but Bron.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I wouldn't do it. I couldn't do it. I'll get cut. Yeah, you is. You ain't going to say nothing. Nigga, be fair. Bro, your defense was lazy on that thing. Hey, star players be looking at the coach this later.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Just say something. Go and say something. That's cold. Go and say something. That's cold, bro. Go and say something. Go and say something. We're going to see his next five games if you're here.
Starting point is 00:23:32 It's cold. They'll rewind the same play ten times and pick everything else in the play. See? On the bench. See? Why you wasn't clapping, but they're in the place. See? On the bench, see? Why you wasn't clapping, but then on the bench? He'd hope another player say something. They could just be sitting like, man.
Starting point is 00:23:52 But if you Aggie, you could say that, though. Huh? If you Aggie, you could say something. But that's the whole thing. How much of this is on Ham? How much of this is on AD to step up and be like, look, Bron, it's time. You brought me here to do something.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I would like AD to say something. I would like 80 to say something. I would like 80 to say something. But, like, come on, man. We really sitting here talking about a man taking eight shots like somebody told him, don't shoot the ball. I agree, bro. But that's what I'm saying. It's not like they said, hey, don't shoot the ball, shoot eight. He consciously was like, him go hit it.
Starting point is 00:24:22 I mean, I just feel like the position at the end, though, it's like coming to the end of the season. Ain't got no time for none of that. Like, what are you on? Like, that's what I feel like. You're going to play or not. I'm on two sides.
Starting point is 00:24:31 If I'm Bron, cool, take your shots, I don't give a fuck. But if I'm Anthony Davis, with my mindset, oh no. You came off the bench for a reason. You come off the bench for a reason. You come off the bench for a reason. That back down. You know what I mean? It's confidence. But if you AD, you take them eight shots for bronze,
Starting point is 00:24:52 that doesn't even get on the court. Yeah, for sure. If I'm AD, I'm cussing, bro. I don't let Pogger talk shit. No, bro. No. We ain't with that today. You can't take eight shots, though, AD. With that team, there's't with that today. I mean, that's what I said. You can't take a shot, though, A.G.
Starting point is 00:25:05 With that team, there's nobody on that team that's sitting there challenging you. Vanderbilt? Vanderbilt? Who? Vanderbilt. Who? Challenging who? Challenging Anthony Davis?
Starting point is 00:25:18 Oh, no, no, no. I'm talking about that man. Oh, I'm over here like, yo, yo. Oh, no, no, no. Nobody is going to do that. First 10, they're going to have to double me to get me. I'm just sitting there like how LeBron was trying to get that scoring title that last game, and he was taking all them shots.
Starting point is 00:25:32 That should have been AD this whole time. And blew a transmission doing it. Yep. No. That's why he had to take that break. Blew a transmission. I don't blame him. I wouldn't have gotten it, too.
Starting point is 00:25:42 But, you know, I like calling a spade a spade, bro. For sure. LeBron was done if they wouldn't have gotten two. But, you know, I like Colin Spade a spade, bro. For sure. Brown was done if they wouldn't have made them trades. Brown's season would have been over if they wouldn't have made them trades. Yeah. Oh, he was, yeah. They got talking Russell in here. They got talking Russell.
Starting point is 00:25:54 He was sitting on their bench saying, Russell hit them three. Oh, we got something. I told my homer, watch him come back next week. Yeah, for sure. And blew a tie. So we got to talk about that Lakers Bulls game, but probably one of the most disrespectful moments of the season.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Pat Bev hit the bucket on Bron to put the Bulls up 10, hit them with the two small. Where did y'all think we all saw that? We got the video. He went extra small with the two small too. Look at this. He started off small real live. Was it small enough?
Starting point is 00:26:27 But they never made contact at all though. I see lazy defense from LeBron. They never made contact. Laughing in that man's face. LeBron gave him an opportunity to come to the Lakers. It didn't work out. Good. Listen, it's it is Pat Bev.
Starting point is 00:26:43 It's like one of the last people you want to score because, you know, you're going to get the antics. And I'm pretty sure the way he was driving, Bron didn't think he was going to shoot it. He wasn't going to shoot it anyway. But, you know, that's the last person. There's just certain people you just don't want scoring because they celebrate every single time. Every single time. There wasn't Pat Bev the one who jumped on the... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:06 After game one? Yeah. After the playing. After the playing. After the playing championship. Yeah. That's who you dealing with, man. I mean, and they in the same position again, the playing game, right?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah. Yeah. He said his goal was, once the Lakers did him dirty, his goal was to knock the Lakers off the playoffs. How did they do him dirty? What? Here's my... No, I thought it was do Westbrook dirty. It was doing...
Starting point is 00:27:30 He didn't like the way they did Westbrook. How did they do him? And that's the funny part is him and Westbrook, that's the thing that I'd be looking. I'd be catching shit like that. Yeah, him and Westbrook was frenemies, enemies when they played. Right? But when they played. Fake. Right? But when they played, but then when they're teammates and he's saying, I'm going to get y'all back for what y'all did to him.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I mean, it was some shit that we, we did some more mental shit. Maybe so. Like, that's what I'm saying. You ain't go, just mentally, you're not going to be a triple-double guy and then come here and then you tell me I got to come off the bench. Like mentally, I don't know how I'm coping with that. But it's the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:28:13 It's the standard. No, no, no. It's the standard. The name is standard. The players that was on that team. The name wasn't, yeah. That ain't no standard. But they were probably looking that day because they were on that bubble ring.
Starting point is 00:28:22 No, no, no, no. Who was on that? Who was coming in front of them? Reeves, Troy Brown. Like, come on. Like, I like Troy Brown, but come on. Like, three-time MVP? I was supposed to be. Man, I take Troy Brown over on Westbrook right now.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Huh? Yeah. Did you see his stats off the bench? I know he going to give me some threes, and I know they're going to leave Ocean open for Westbrook to take shots. But he's figuring it out. 16, 17, 16. And it's 18 years? Who? Who? Who's figuring it out?
Starting point is 00:28:50 I'm saying Russ is figuring it out now with the Clippers. How long have you been in the league? He's been in it for a minute. 12, 13 years. About 14? Yeah. I'm just saying mentally, think about you
Starting point is 00:29:04 doing something at another level and then they're saying this guy Who's not better and you probably can't touch nothing you doing they gonna put him in front of you Just got to sit there and take it and then a media sitting there like man. Yeah. Yeah, and Pat Bevis starting over rest I'm sitting out Pat Batman. I got, like shit. That's why I said there's some shit that's going on. If Pat Bev is the one starting in front of you and he's saying they did you wrong, I would kick the ball up there. Y'all would have had my eye. Then Pat Bev should have said, well then Russ needs to start then over me.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah. I ain't going to never say nothing like that. Well, I mean, well then. But I mean, Pat Bev's talking about two Lakers fans and how they used to come at them and said it's one of the more toxic fan bases. But just want to know, looking at, well then. But, I mean, Pat Baff's talking about two Lakers fans and how they used to come at him and say it's one of the more toxic fan bases. But just want to know, looking at the league now. Play better. Huh?
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah. It's the Lakers. You got to play better. Pat Baff seems like a generational troll. Is he the biggest troll in the league right now? And can anybody get on his level? More than Dylan Brooks? Trolling?
Starting point is 00:30:03 Dylan Brooks is not a troll, though. He's not a troll troll. A little bit. He's getting there. Trolls is like, Embiid is a troll. He's going to troll you. They have a little piss, that's all. He's a little piss.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Yeah. And y'all both play in the league. Y'all have dealt with guys like that during your career. Does that really faze you at all or is it more just comedy for you? Troll me? I've never got trolled. In the game? Yeah, no, I've never got trolled.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I had green light. I don't see how he's doing that when people be having 30 and 40 on Pat Bale. That's why I don't understand. Because he don't care. That's the problem. Like, that's what makes the troll, because you're getting your ass busted, but you still think you're doing a good job. Because you got to be – you can score 40 on him,
Starting point is 00:30:49 and he makes the last stop on you. Oh, he won. He sleep good at night. Has there ever been a player that got under your skin, though? Like, let's say you're at the free throw line or something like that. Has anybody – I'm asking you a question. I'm bringing back the –
Starting point is 00:31:03 You can say that or no. My skin. The internet is saying that you were afraid of LeBron in that moment. I just missed you a question. I'm bringing back the man. You didn't say that or no? The internet is saying that you were afraid of LeBron in that moment. I just missed them shits. I don't know how I missed them. I just missed them. I don't know what was going through my brain. It just... Did you have the powder on your hands?
Starting point is 00:31:18 Nah, it was good. I got it from overtime so you know I'm going to flame on. Boop, boop. Like, hey, okay. But what was it like in that atmosphere? What was that like for you? We at home. So, you know, we was losing.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I'm hitting all the shots to come back. We're down three. Three seconds left. Pulled up, hit the three to go to overtime. We up one. Went to the free throw line. Missed the first one. Like, man, all right. He still had all this, then, too.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah, yeah. Missed the second one. They put Damon Jones in. There ain't no damn way they're not going to pass Damon Jones. Pass Damon Jones, who ain't played since like game four. Hit the shot like, oh, man. If Damon Jones missed that shot, LeBron James would be, he would have been questioned how you pass a ball to a guy who just got in the game, ain't been playing for three years. He pass it, Damon makes it, he's a hero. That's how it goes. I sat in that arena for hours shooting free throws after that.
Starting point is 00:32:24 In that little baby gym or no? Hell no. I didn't miss them damn free throws in no baby gym. You went through your crap, though. You went through your crap. I was a kid. I watched Orlando and my man struggle for the free throw line and missing all that. Nick Anderson?
Starting point is 00:32:41 Nick Anderson. When he missed them free throws in the playoff. And I remember what happened to him after that, those free throws. Every time he went to the line the rest of his career, he thought about that. I didn't want that. So after I missed those free throws, when that gym cleared, I sat there and just shot 2,000. Shot 2,000.
Starting point is 00:32:58 But that's when I came back to following you. That's when I was hitting all the game winners. I even went to Frank. 2,000, Gil? 2,000. Okay. That's why I came back to following you. That's when I was hitting all the game winners. I even went to Frank. 2000, Gil? 2000. Okay. I even went to Frank as a special ops guy in San Fran.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah. Yeah, you told the story. Yeah, so I went to him for mental conditioning. I just wanted to make sure this shit was up here, man. Because, you know, when you lose this, it's over for you. So I had to put me through some mental stuff. A week later, oh, it's over. So I'm glad you brought that up. You said mental.
Starting point is 00:33:30 So when LeBron lost to the Mavs, he was going through something mentally again. Because he was playing like we ain't never seen him play before. And, you know, it's all kind of speculation. I ain't going to say why. But then I come back, he reading books. So I'm saying, basketball is really mental. Not really too much- Rob Markman So when it comes to just anything, just anything
Starting point is 00:33:54 in profession, when you're talking about the elite, it's usually more mental than it is physical. So if you think you're the best, you walk like the best, you think like you're going to carry yourself. You can't be a negative mind and then have positive results. That's not how that shit works. So when you're feeling real doubted about yourself, you got to figure out how to get it back positive.
Starting point is 00:34:19 So if you missed a playoff, something's going on, something's making you question something, you have to try to re-ins know, because it starts affecting everything. You know, like if you're having problems on the outside world, it'll start affecting you, you know. So you got to have blockage and try to figure out how to be that guy. So that's why I said you look at Westbrook. You're looking at a guy who's over in D.C., triple-double guy. You come here and watch how fast they took it from him.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Ain't nothing changed. The mechanics ain't changed. The style didn't change. They were getting what they got. He looked like an amazing Superman over here, and we're looking at this man like Clark Kent. I get it. We ain't going to take nothing away from Russ, but he started
Starting point is 00:35:04 shooting on top of a backboard, bro. It's mental. That's what I'm saying. Man, I guarantee you go to the gym and watch this man work out. He's going to be the hardest worker. When them lights come on, all you remember, listen, when nobody's there, you got your game. When them lights come on, all the memories, all the boos,
Starting point is 00:35:23 right as soon as I touch the ball, they're going to boo me. Like, I've seen men break down. But think about Westbrook. Westbrook loved Kobe, grew up in L.A., loved the Lakers. You finally come home. It's your homecoming. They're calling you Westbrook. When you grab the ball, they say, don't shoot.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Don't shoot. And this is the home crowd doing that. But as I said, you want to say, that's what I used to say, this is why, when people, I said, put it into your normal job. Imagine you a comedian, right? I'm sorry, I'm imagining. You a comedian, right? Your man's right there, right?
Starting point is 00:35:53 Your man's. This ain't the road. This is your own man. Your own man. Imagine you doing things and he in the back, boo, need to get off the stage. Boo. How long before it just messes up your whole goddamn flow? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:07 You ain't going to sit there and try to, hold on, hold on, I'm going to tell you, I got a better joke. You ain't going to do that. You're going to throw the mic, man, I'm out of here. Right?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Every single night, night after night, the same person booing you. Eventually, you're going to start questioning your jokes. You're going to start questioning your style. You're going to start questioning your style. You ain't going to want the man around. And that's how it is.
Starting point is 00:36:30 It's not like it's road. The road booing you, that's... I get what you're saying, but you said earlier when you missed that free throw, you staying after the game and work. He should be working. But me missing a free throw, that's just a personal thing. When you're being booed by 20,000 of your own people that's supposed me missing a free throw that's just a personal thing when you're being booed by 20,000 of your own people that's supposed to love you
Starting point is 00:36:50 That's a hold I've never yeah, and I didn't even do nice and I just got here. Yeah, it's like it's you know What I mean, it's like it's got those things but he wasn't playing and he's on the Bron team So they don't like the name somewhere. He was playing fine. His stats, if you put his stats up against anybody else that was in the All-Star game, point guards, there's nothing different. Yeah, he got the points and the rebounds. But what about the field goal percentage? But we're seeing, same.
Starting point is 00:37:18 LaMelo Ball is awesome. Motherfucker, $100 million contract with the same stats. But the problem is we've seen this. You can't give us this. You just gave them motherfuckers a triple-double over here. You ain't gonna give us no motherfuckers 1766. And that becomes the problem. So it's just one of those things where when your home crowd turns, you want to be on the
Starting point is 00:37:41 road. Facts. I'd rather be on the road, bro. I don't want to be on the road. Fact. I'd rather be on the road, bro. I don't want to be in the... Every time you put that jersey on and you run out and everybody cheering, all you're doing is, man, don't say... Damn, as soon as they say my name, bro, I'm gone. As soon as they say my name, I'm going to start booing this shit, man. All right, damn.
Starting point is 00:37:58 You're dribbling the ball up, they're going to start booing. Every shot you... You're sitting there thinking about that shot like, if I miss it, they're going to boo. I ain't going to take this motherfucker, for real. That's how Ben Simmons was. If I don't take it, they can't boo me. If I take it and miss it, oh, they about to have a field day. Fuck that.
Starting point is 00:38:13 So you just sit there, you just in the game now. Yeah. You just in it. You don't want to make no mistake. So now you plan not to make a mistake instead of playing basketball. I've seen it. I've watched, man. I've watched it. I understood watched, man. I've watched it.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I understood that with Christian and Lakeman. Christian and Lakeman. I said, man, we going on the road, right? Every time we go on the road, shoot as they say this name, if we come off the bench,
Starting point is 00:38:37 boom, I mean, 20,000. Like he coming in the game, like he about, listen, he coming in the game, like he about to just average 30. Last four minutes in the game like he about listen he coming in the game like he about to just average 30 last four minutes of the game a boo like Like I'm a gamer like I didn't notice it at first and I realized
Starting point is 00:39:02 He had to tell me about what happened in college. Yeah. Duke life, yeah. Yeah, and I'm like, yo, how do you deal with this? He said, man, I've been booed since that college incident. I've been booed every road game for fucking 12, 13 years. I'm like, man, how do you deal with that? That chick?
Starting point is 00:39:23 He said, man, I have a therapist He's I see a therapist, you know twice three times a week smoke weed and try to try to Man man, no Looks fat. He's a man. Oh, he's that Mary Jane. I'm like, oh that's your that's her name Mary Jane he says listen this in the car. It's in my bag Bro, he said he said because I guess back then back then the drug testing was they test you once Once before the season like, you know, October First second or one for the first thing, you know, you got your drug test and then I gonna test you again It's the next year. So they only had one test back then. So, you know, it's like, I just...
Starting point is 00:40:06 And I'm sitting there like... You can see it in his face, bro. Like, him talking about it, he wanted to smoke. But I just watched it. I just watched, like, man, them boos eat you up, man, because nobody understands this.
Starting point is 00:40:23 AAU basketball, who booing us? Nobody. Nobody. When we're in high school, the only people who's saying overrated is the people I'm kicking their ass. Yeah, the road team. The road team. There's nobody writing no bad articles on us.
Starting point is 00:40:36 There ain't no articles telling us we trash or nothing like that. It's all highlighted. College. They're hating in the message boards, but we're not going to fucking. In high school? No, I'm saying nowadays. Oh, but I'm talking about, I'm thinking about when we were growing up in high school. Yeah, college, it was the message boards.
Starting point is 00:40:50 You had that whole shit. But so when the first time you see a real article that says something negative, it's in the NBA. The real boos you hear is in the NBA. That's once you start making money. You talking about, you know, I've been playing from eight years old to 22, and you tell me at 23 you're going to boo me? Oh, that's new. That's new.
Starting point is 00:41:08 What the fuck? What the fuck do I do? This is supposed to be all cheers, God damn it. And they was like, oh, they're prima donnas. Hell yes. Yes. Just like your big ass was too. Just like your big ass was.
Starting point is 00:41:20 That's what I said. They be calling, yeah. Like, Shaq would be like, yeah, these are some prima donnas coming from the guy who got mad Penny Hardaway got cheered louder on one game. I need him traded. Facts. That's real tough. That's real tough.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Knock the man Penny doll on, he got a penny doll. Like, come on, man. We can see the petty back then. Penny was a beast. Huh? Penny was a beast. Yeah. You see now, that irritated the shit out of y'all.. Come on, man. We can see the petty back then. Kenyon was a beast. Huh? Kenyon was a beast. Yeah. You see now?
Starting point is 00:41:47 That irritated the shit out of y'all. Charles Barkley, too. We see it. Like, y'all was just as prima donna then, too. Yeah. He make four more dollars than me. I don't know. I doubt he kept it.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Motherfucker make four more dollars. I need a raise. So we talked about Brown and his Lakers. Now let's talk about Bronny. We've got the McDonald's All-American game tonight. Bronny's set to play in the game just like his daddy did 20 years ago. But some people are in their feelings over Bronny's selection. So, Brandon, I'm going to start with you.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Do you question Bronny earning a spot in the Mickey D's game? No, I don't question it at all. Okay. Yeah, he did what he had to do. He stepped up to the plate. He took on the challenges in high school. He was playing. You know, you can always...
Starting point is 00:42:30 And he did his thing. I mean, you know, it was good for the game. And hey, he looked good in the dunk contest. I can't wait to see what happens tonight. You just can't look at me just like... I don't know. You looking like... I'm giving you the you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:49 It's on you. No, he earned his spot. You're talking about a guy who basically had to sacrifice his whole career in high school. You're playing on a team where you have top five. Anybody who wants to be recognized is coming to your school to play to be on that national spotlight. When you look at his ranking, it makes sense.
Starting point is 00:43:15 There's guys who are ranked in front of him who couldn't make it because they had to go to Overtime Elite. There's these other things that these guys didn't make it. Once these guys, these six, seven guys can make it, the list moves down. It's the top 24. If he's 28 or 29, he originally wouldn't have made it, but if these guys are out of it, he will be
Starting point is 00:43:33 part of the top 24. My whole thing with that, actually, I wasn't really concerned about that. What I was concerned about is the NIL deals. That Adidas McDonald's is the NIL deals. Right? That Adidas McDonald's game is old language. That's old.
Starting point is 00:43:53 That's not today's language. So with these new NIL deals, you got three players that got Nike contracts. You got Bronny. You got Juju, number one. And then you have Wagner. Those three kids are actually Nike contestants now. So I really wanted to see what happens in the game. They covering the logos like Brawny and Adidas? Like Brawny was, like he had his pink Nikes on in practice, so I'm thinking, because it seemed like behind the scenes that was a big war
Starting point is 00:44:27 between Nike and Adidas. Oh, you heard about it? Yeah, I heard about it. Because I just came from there. I was talking to the kids. So, yeah, I think that was a big thing. I think they should take the shoe thing out of it. But the reason they can't because just like All-Star Game or the USA game, when Adidas made that language 20, 30 years ago,
Starting point is 00:44:48 there was no... Yeah, but what if... Okay, so now... So the NIL, you got to remember, it's only because NIL started this year. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:56 So you're trying to figure... So this is all new, uncharted waters. So they're trying to figure out what do we do? So they're going to have to figure something out because next year,
Starting point is 00:45:04 kids are going to have NIL deals too Yep, so what are you going? You don't want to look that's what you don't want to lose You know because if you if you're talking about, you know Well, they have to wear these or the Nike kids can't play if if I'm Nike I'm messing up your whole history of so I'm saying so cut the shoe deals out no shoe deal I mean, but McDonald's will take that back from Adidas, though. Yeah, but McDonald's has money.
Starting point is 00:45:26 It's McDonald's. Yeah. Right? Like, they have money. I mean, they can find somebody else to sponsor. I just think... But it don't matter. If you don't take out the shoe deal, what's going to end up happening?
Starting point is 00:45:38 If I'm Adidas and it's a Nike thing now, all I'm going to do is I'm going to just beat Nike to the punch and sign all these top kids to Adidas. Now, none of those kids can be in your game. Now, you don't have the top 24. You got the top 50. No. So it can be a war. I mean, well, we'll see. I mean, you know.
Starting point is 00:46:01 If I'm them, I'm just like, all right, listen. Shoot. We're going to treat it like USA basketball? Are we going to treat it like that? Yep. You know, just the jersey, socks, and headbands, a little shit like that. Or that, yeah. So we saw Bronny basically opted out of any media obligations,
Starting point is 00:46:17 which is rare for a high school player. And Brandon, you played in that game. Yeah. How much did that media play a part in that? How much do you look forward to those interviews and getting that pub? Obviously, it's a different time now with social media. Guys are walking in with two, three million Instagram followers.
Starting point is 00:46:31 So they're probably not really tripping on it. But how much did you look forward to that coming in there? I mean, that was my time of showcasing my brand and myself. Me coming with the high top eight early before everybody. Just having people being able to see me. So I took advantage of that opportunity. And like I just said, I was just down there this weekend talking to the kids about building a brand
Starting point is 00:46:53 and what's next in life. And it was great, man. It was great. Like seeing the kids now and you know, me being one of those kids and now, you know, I'm 33 and I'm talking to them. It's like a full circle. So, you know, it's just about taking advantage of the opportunity
Starting point is 00:47:08 because you're in front of all the media and everybody's there. So you average 35 points per game in high school. You can get buckets at will whenever you felt like it. Bronny, I think put up 14-5 and two, obviously playing Sarah Canyon, different system, different era. But what advice would you give him about coming in that game and how to really dominate in that game? You had like 13 and 11 or something like that. Yeah, well, I mean, because I'm playing with the best players. So at that time, I was able to just
Starting point is 00:47:31 be a point guard again, you know, like I was in AAU when I played with Kevin Love and them. So my mindset was just going in there, getting guys involved. You know, I think I had like 13, like 13 assists, like 13 points. So I wasn't really scoring like that, but I was just getting guys involved. That's just what I did in All-Star games. Okay. Ball hog. Ball hog, shoot every time you get it.
Starting point is 00:47:54 LeBron, your daddy, they ain't going to say shit to you. Facts. Shit. I'm getting up 18 shots. Facts. What they going to do? I'm shooting that motherfucker. Man, listen, I wish I made it to the McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I just wasn't on that. I probably would have got MVP if we would have won, but I think Tariq Evans got it because they won. But yeah, I mean. It's just about putting on a show. You used to drop 50 pieces. What I'm saying, brung it. Go out there and just, man.
Starting point is 00:48:17 If I'm brung it, what do I need to pass the ball for? Real time. Shit, y'all going to be working for me one day. I'll be saying some foul shit. I ain't. My daddy going to be the owner of the team. I'm going to be the owner of the team. I'm going to be the owner of the team. I'm going to be the owner of the team. I'm going to be what do I need to pass the ball for? Real time. Shit, y'all going to be working for me one day.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I'll be saying some foul shit. I mean, man, listen, my daddy going to be the owner of the team. And I can tell you right now, y'all ain't too happy with none of y'all. Y'all going to. I mean. I ain't going to be too happy with none of y'all. You know, you want my daddy to draft you. Hey, we going to treat this shit just like my daddy was trying to get that scoring title.
Starting point is 00:48:44 All things come through. Real talk. So how much pressure is on Bronny in this game? We saw him finish second in the dunk contest last night jumping over his brother. I can tell you this one, dad. Does it look like that motherfucker give a fuck what any of y'all say? Hell no! That motherfucker do his own thing.
Starting point is 00:48:59 He do. He do his own. That's one thing Bronny does. His own thing. Yeah, I don't think it's thing. I love that about him. I don't think it's pressure, I'm just more curious to see what's next. Because he's still undecided, we don't know where he's going. I want to know his next decision.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Listen, we're going to put, there's a clip, y'all got to find this clip. Listen, there was a clip, it's the funniest shit to me because it was the first time you seen LeBron vulnerable. They're shooting baskets outside in the garage. Bron does his dunk, and then Bronny comes to the camera and said, all right, I'm about to be in Diamond D, something like that. LeBron was like, what's that? He said, what's that?
Starting point is 00:49:43 He said, if you know, you know, and then walked off. So LeBron was like, he's looking at us like, hey, hey. He tried to ask Bryce, hey, what is that? He was like, if you know, you know. Walked off. I'm like, if you know, you know. I was like, dude, he's so vulnerable because he don't know what just happened. I guess it was video gaming.
Starting point is 00:50:02 He was telling them what room he was there, but just listening to Bronnie do that Bron was like Yeah, I Don't know what's going on Y'all gotta find that clip watch bra space is the first time that he was like, yo What did this man just say on my line? I knew when Bronny hit the road, he was a real one.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I'm going to go keep him. I bet you. Hey, man, listen, man. That's Prince Jr., man. What you telling that man? Nothing. That man got his own bodyguard. He got his own Nike deal. What are you going to tell me? He got his own bodyguard. He got his own money. He got his own bodyguard. He drives to school. He got his own Nike deal. What are you going to tell me? He got his own money. He got his own bodyguard.
Starting point is 00:50:46 He drives to school. He got his own house by himself. They lived in Brentwood. He lived by the school. Pulling up. What's happening? Bodyguard. Don't sweat it, guy.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Bodyguard following everything. Man, this man is old thing. All right. All right. We'll make sure to check out the McDonald's game tonight. We'll be back tomorrow with a recap. But now it's time for a little bit of trust issues. I like how y'all be having them segment titles queued up ready to go.
Starting point is 00:51:13 I'll be trying to throw them off and fuck them up so somebody can yell that. And they disappoint me every time. They get it right. So let's talk about Dame and these Blazers. Blazers are throwing a tie in the season, man. Five games out of the 10th seed with seven games left to go. One and nine in their last 10 games. Now, some out there are wondering if Damian Lillard has played his last game with the Blazers. As he's already said, he's not interested in a rebuild, and that's where
Starting point is 00:51:39 that roster is trending right now. So I want to ask y'all. I'll go with you first. Dave played his last game with the Blazers. Yes, and I would do it just like this. While we're at the game. I wouldn't even suit up. I pull in and beat. Last game, I walk right up to Billups. I'm gone, fuck boy. Just like that. Gone, fuck boy. I go to the media. I trash everybody in the locker room. How can I win with this? And I asked to be traded to LA.
Starting point is 00:52:12 To where? LA. LA? Yeah. Stay on the West Coast, man. Wait, wait, wait. Lakers or Lakers? Lakers.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Oh, okay. And gold. And gold. And Dr. Bush Playboy on the passed away He'll help me know real big friend. They gonna be rolling over the gun Show time baby Yeah, what you think about this whole Dame situation? And Dame has been loyal to these Blazers.
Starting point is 00:52:49 You know what I mean? He signed that Supermax. He stayed. I know he's getting tired of hearing all the criticism, but we are a basketball show. We talk about basketball. We want the best for Damian Lillard for what he's given to the game. I mean, I want to see him in a better situation because, you know, the work that he's put in, like he deserves, he deserves, you know, his flowers and, you know, being there, he doesn't get it.
Starting point is 00:53:15 You know, they haven't, you know, they haven't built anything since what Aldridge left. They really haven't built anything since Aldridge left. It's just been him and CJ for the most part just carrying that team. So you know, I would like Portland to do in their best interest to trade him to somewhere, like someplace that he wants to go. So it don't look like he gave up. He's been loyal. Y'all just go ahead and make it right by him.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Milwaukee. I guess we can say if he's going to win. Milwaukee. If Milwaukee don't win it this year, they should make a run at Dame. They're going to have to give up Middleton. You fine with that? Yeah, him and Drew can go. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Business decision, though. I'm talking about from a business decision. There's no LA beef that we don't know about. No, no, no, no never that but I Mean, you know once you win it once and you don't win in a couple years, you know It kind of dies down so you're gonna need to if that's if that's it for Portland I would yeah that that would be my run Lakers strobe back
Starting point is 00:54:18 They're also because you and because only and because you and Chris they have they have value So his name's been thrown around potentially with the Knicks, but being able to keep Jalen Brunson and Julius Randle in that core. Why do I want them? I don't want Dame. Why would you want Dame with Julius Randle and Brunson? He's going to be up there rapping, man. He's going to be up there with Jim Jones and them Dippa Ted and all that, man.
Starting point is 00:54:42 And I like them, but nah, man. Come back to the West Coast, man. Would you trade him for Brown? For Brown? Nah. Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown with Celtics.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Ooh. And him and Tatum together. Ooh. Wait, say it again? There ain't too much of a dog to be with Tatum. Him and Tatum? There ain't too much of a dog. I don't want to see Damon on Boston Jersey. I know. We were just thinking about the jersey. I don't want to see Dame in no Boston jersey.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I know. We were just thinking about the jersey. I don't want to see Dame in no Boston jersey. I'd rather see Dame with the Lakers. The Lakers, Philly wouldn't be, or Milwaukee if they don't win it. Dallas? No. Dallas is not in position to
Starting point is 00:55:21 if Kyrie did. Fat Luca? No. If Kyrie did. Kyrie's going to LA. We're going Kyrie did... But it won't put him in a better situation to win. With the Lakers? Would you trade him for... I know this is just... Hold on.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Hold on. Light the smoke. If you... If you're Golden State, Kaleigh Thompson and Wiggins. I'll make that move. I'll make it. Bye.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Huh? Bye. Klay Thompson and Wiggins. Klay Thompson and Poole. I say Draymond with them. Just for extras. Klay Thompson and Poole. That's too much for Dan. No, no.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I said Poole. Wiggins and Poole. I said Poole, Draymond. You get rid of Poole? That's too much for Dame. No, no. I said Poole. Wiggins and Poole. I said Poole, Draymond. You get rid of Poole? Ooh. Bye. You said who? Wiggins and Poole.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Draymond, Wiggins and Poole. Bye. If I have Dame, I can't get rid of Draymond now. Got to. Nah. Nah, nah, nah. I need that pick and roll now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Both them pick and roll, popping and passing. Yeah. Wiggins and Poole though. Have you seen that pick and roll lately? But you need one more, though. Yeah, I've seen it lately. But Wiggins and Poole is not enough. Huh?
Starting point is 00:56:30 I said Wiggins and Poole is not enough. You're going to need one more. So you're going to Steph, Steph, Clay, Dame? But I don't know if you can trade Wiggins right now. We ain't going to talk about it. But, you know, right now he's like Ben Simmons right now. He's dealing with some family stuff, but it is a business, as you gentlemen like to say. Business is business.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I'm curious to see how Warriors fans respond to that. I think you don't give up Poole. If it comes down to Klay or Poole, I don't know. I don't make that trade. I don't see how Poole playing with Draymond anyway. In the long run. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it is hard to give up on Poole because it's young, but if you're getting Dame and Curry,
Starting point is 00:57:05 you can probably squeeze out something else. You're good. Yeah. They're going to make up for it right there. Lillard and Curry in the backcourt? That is, yeah. Oakville and nothing short. How about Denver?
Starting point is 00:57:17 No. Michael Porter Jr. and... No, no. Michael Porter Jr. and Jamal Murray? No, no, no, no. Not enough. It's just not enough. I just don't... It's not enough. Michael Porter Jr. and Jamal Murray? No. Not enough. It's just not enough. I just don't see. It's not enough.
Starting point is 00:57:29 The NBA is not promoting that. In the long run, we don't want to see them in the finals. You want to watch a Denver in the finals? Nope. Okay. So we're talking money here. We don't want to see that. I see Blazers do right by Dame.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Just amnesty them. Let them come to these Lakers and figure it out. You were the first player to ever get amnesty, wasn't you? Hell no. I like that Warriors. You've been amnesty niggas for a long time. So anytime there's a lockout, there's usually amnesty that's coming. So like Finley got amnesty.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Michael Finley? Yeah, 2005. That's how he went from Dallas. He got amnesty by Dallas and signed another contract with Spurs. That's right. Didn't Lou Aldane get thatissied by Dallas and signed another contract with Spurs. Did Luau Dane get that too then? Did Luau get emissied? Nah. I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:12 He did? Yeah, he did. Or stretched. Oh yeah, so you get emissied and then they stretch it. Okay. What do you do with Trae Young? Man, I would just, man, bruh. I love Trae Young.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Trade him? For who? Trae Young. Trade him? For who? Who you going to get for him? You're Hawks. You're the Hawks. What the fuck do you? I mean. Got to keep him for tickets.
Starting point is 00:58:35 That's what I'm saying. It's like, listen, there's some serious. Because he was having trouble, you know, with the coach. Listen, coach ain't selling no seats. Coach ain't selling no seats. Coach ain't selling no seats. I can tell you that. So what happens? So you just...
Starting point is 00:58:48 So he's in a situation like, dang. And I don't want him. We'll get him strogan. And listen. Let me know today. They selling Darvin Ham jerseys and Nate McMillan jerseys in the stands. Let me know. Let me know.
Starting point is 00:59:00 We're going to have motherfucking t-shirts. You can buy. I got the coach's name on the back. A Darvin Ham polo in the team store? If I'm the owner, every coach. Hey, listen. I'm listening to my player. Who y'all?
Starting point is 00:59:09 You don't like the coach? Hey, man, man. You don't sell no seats here. Get the fuck out of here. Bumpy. Bumpy Johnson. All right. This is going to be our last segment of the day, but y'all brought up the Mavs, so we
Starting point is 00:59:23 got to talk about the Mavs. We're going to go zero to 100. First of all, nobody brought up the Mavs. You brought up the Mavs. Who brought up the Mavs? Who brought up the Mavs? One of y'all said Mavs amongst this crew. Nah, me? I can't stand Fat Luke. So Mavs were riding high when that Kyrie trade went down. Fourth in the West. Feeling good. Now since that trade, they're 8-13. 4-8 with Kyrie and Luka play. You got fans booing the team.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Luka saying he don't feel the same joy lately. Math tricking. Multiple games for the Hornets. Multiple. Like more than one. But they did end a four-game losing streak Monday night against the Pacers. And we've seen Luka make... So I want to ask y'all, y'all play in the league. That's a hell of a pass.
Starting point is 01:00:08 That's a hell of a pass. How crazy is that pass? Where we get into the 0-100. We'll just say the same thing. But have you seen anything like that? Like hell of a means – Like unbelievable. Yeah, unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Yeah, like I don't even know how many times you can make that. Like, no way. Nah. He had to throw it over the backboard. That's hard. Because you hit the back. Man, how did he get that pass there? Here we go. We're going to see the low angle.
Starting point is 01:00:29 How is that not stolen? Yeah. Because it was low enough for the dude just to catch that. Or hit the... Yeah, I think he probably thought I was going to hit it and go out of bounds. That was a hell of a pass. That curve. But, all right, what are the chances, 0-100, that the Mavs make the playoffs? Keep in mind they're in the 11th seed right now. Straight to schedule, middle of the road.
Starting point is 01:00:55 I think they got like the 15th, 16th. It's just the hardest, depending on how you look at it. Listen, I'm giving shit. I'm gonna go. It's not like I'm going. I mean, if they make it to the playoffs, I'm watching Kyrie. If they don't make it to the playoffs, I mean. We'll see Kyrie next week.
Starting point is 01:01:16 But as soon as that week is over with, I guarantee his car is already here. He already got some cars shipped out here. I think zero. And also, I just feel like at this point, like Luka got to stop complaining. Thank you. This ain't Euro, like this ain't Euro league. Like this ain't where you, like this ain't the pros you was playing overseas.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Like this is the NBA. So you're gonna have to suck it up and like, like leave the refs alone. Just play basketball. Now you crying too much to me. He had to sit a team check, but got it rescinded so he didn't get suspended for that Pacers game. But he just always, 16. He's 15 right now. He had to sit a team check, but got it rescinded so he didn't get suspended for that Pacers game.
Starting point is 01:01:45 But he just always get, 16. He's 15 right now. He don't do nothing but cry, man. But he just crying. It's like, this ain't Europe. Like, you gonna have to suck it up. Do y'all players tell other players stop crying? Man, yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:58 We also be enticing. Come on, man, talking to you like that, man. You got a family. You got a family, man. They watching on TV, man. Get that man to take, man. What's wrong with you? like that, man. You got a family. You got a family, man. They watching it on TV, man. Get that man to take, man. What's wrong with you? For real, man.
Starting point is 01:02:08 So it seems like since this trade has gone down, Kyrie's been getting the majority of the blame. So how much blame does Luka deserve for these Mav issues? 70%. 70%. Because he's the constant. 70%. I mean, I think, well, Mark Cuban, Jason Kidd, Luka, they all signed off on that trade. That's what the Jason Kidd wanted the trade, Luka wanted the trade.
Starting point is 01:02:27 All y'all signed off on the trade, so it's on y'all. Like, that's on them. That ain't on Kyrie. That's what y'all wanted. We know why Kyrie getting his backlash. We know that. It's not like he's not performing well. Right?
Starting point is 01:02:44 He's playing well. It's just not equal in wins. It's not like he's not performing. Yeah well, right he's playing well They're just it's just not equal and wins the narrative. Well the math were Nine is six. I don't give a shit what they They were six and nine excuse me before they made that Kyrie trade six and I know it's 15 games previous Okay, cool. Yeah, what I'm saying is when he got there. What is this stats? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. That's what I want to talk about. What is his stats?
Starting point is 01:03:10 Yes, sir. I don't care about the wins. That's the Mavericks problem. That's the Mavericks problem. He's producing. He's producing. Luka's producing. Those who are producing, I don't even know why we're still talking about them two. What about the rest of that team? What they doing? You made that of that team? What they doing?
Starting point is 01:03:26 You made that point before that. What they doing? Yeah, correct. I be in the locker room like that. Hey, nah, we don't need no team meeting. Me and Luka, we're going to sit right here. Y'all have a team meeting on what y'all need to do better. What y'all need to do better.
Starting point is 01:03:42 But you said Luka deserves 70% of that. Yeah, man. It's his team. He signed off on it with Cuban. You don't think Cuban called him up? Hey, you think about getting Kyrie? Sure. He could've said no. Sure.
Starting point is 01:03:54 He could've said no. Sure. I hope he said it like that. Sure. Now you crying to the ref every five plays. Nah, I blame Luka, 70% Luka, man. He got to get 70%. And, Brandon, on a previous show, it was a little controversial, a little spicy at that point,
Starting point is 01:04:11 but you said the Mavs was going to be the odd team out. Yeah, they still are. And you still feel that way? Yeah, they still are. You think they had a team meeting yet? Who going to call it? Who going to call it? Think about it. I mean, who is going to call it? Who going to call it? Think about it. I mean, who is going to call it?
Starting point is 01:04:28 Yeah, who going to call it? Who going to call it? Anybody can. That's why y'all need to hire me as a vibe. Yeah, Kid can't make that. He drunk. How many team meetings y'all have? He drunk a little bit.
Starting point is 01:04:44 No, I didn't play for J. Kid. He allegedly allegedly. No, I didn't play for J-Kid. No, I'm saying how you didn't play a meeting? He allegedly drunk. Maybe once, maybe one. What? Yeah, like one. How much happens in those meetings? Does this shit ever improve? Does guys really go into each other?
Starting point is 01:04:52 I think like Caron Butler called one, like in Detroit. I think maybe Jerry Stackhouse called one in my rookie year, I think. What? Damn, I got the coldest. Scott Scouse used to call him one. Like, he used to call him all the time, Scott Scouse. Like, just for us. Like, yo, y'all have a players meeting.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Y'all don't know what y'all players meeting's about? Figure it out. Like, I remember it was at the Toronto. Listen, it was at the Toronto. This is, it was at the Toronto. Right? Like, it was leading up to Toronto, and, you know, players just complained that, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:27 because I just got there, I wasn't passing the ball. So, you know, I'm thinking like. That's what I like. That's what I like. But I'm thinking like, oh, shit, you know, I don't want to, you know, it's got Jerry Sackhouse, you got all these players. I'm new, you know what I mean? So, you know, I only take, like, three shots that game, right?
Starting point is 01:05:41 Three shots, had seven points, and it was at the end of the game. We ended up winning. So we had a team meeting the next day, right? Three shots, had seven points, and it was at the end of the game. We ended up winning. So we had a team meeting the next day, right? So the team meeting. So we got the players, one player talking about he need the ball, this and this, you know, treat me like I'm Jermaine O'Neal and all this stuff, right? What you up against?
Starting point is 01:05:58 Huh? What you up against? Huh? I'm figuring out who you're talking about. You be like, I'm Jermaine. You know, we going here to see it since we in the news. Motherfucking Bust-a-Bus. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:06:09 That's funny. So, I didn't want to... He broke it up, Jerry Stockhouse. I'm just letting you know how our players meet. So, he can play anytime. I need a ball like Jermaine O'Neal. At this time, I don't know who he is. He's big, buff, so I'm like, all right, shit. Jermaine O'Neal. At this time, I don't know who he is. You know, he's big, buff. So I'm like, all right, shit, you know, Jermaine O'Neal, you know.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Throw it down to the big fella. You know, I'm all on board. Right? Jerry Stackhouse came in here and said, man, what the fuck are we doing in here, man? I'm over here waiting on the goddamn players up on the practice court. Y'all up here having a—I told your dumb ass. Ain't no motherfucking meeting. All right?
Starting point is 01:06:43 Your ass hat. If you averaged seven points last year, you're going to average nine this year. I told your dumb ass at the motherfucking meeting. All right, your ass hat. If you averaged seven points last year, you're gonna average nine this year. You are not jumping from five points to 20 points. You are not that type of player. This goddamn meeting's over with. Get the fuck onto the players lounge.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Got me over here waiting to goddamn over this stupid ass meeting. Right, so I'm sitting here like, all right, let me shoot in the hood. Nigga put his head down. Man,. So I'm sitting here like, alright, let me shoot. Put his head down. Man, you know. Big ass nigga. That's cold.
Starting point is 01:07:14 And then the players started. This is when I knew. Like y'all can Google. Y'all can Google the 2002-2003 season there. You will see in Toronto, three points or seven points I had. Didn't shoot much, right?
Starting point is 01:07:32 Then we had the meeting. Look at all the shots I took at it because I watched. I just watched the man come in and just dethrone everything you was trying to do. Head down, looking at your shoes. Stack had said with authority though. With authority, hey man, I told your ass. Bruh, just like, damn. You know what I mean? Did he have feelers on?
Starting point is 01:07:54 He had the feelers on? No, like, I guess, because I guess when he found out that we was up there, because he tried to get to practice. He tried to get the hell out of there. So he been, Stack was like, he just went in there and laid the law down. Like, you not, you average five this year. And so that was it. Man head down.
Starting point is 01:08:12 Now you can hear the players. This man said, Jermaine O'Neal. Hey, he's more like Jermaine Oatmeal. He better Jermaine get real. So in the meeting, did he have everybody's attention when he was saying he wanted to go out like Jermaine Garnier? Were people mad? No, you know, people like, you know, sitting there
Starting point is 01:08:31 like, alright, alright, Jermaine. Because I don't listen. I don't know the personalities yet. So I don't know who's who. So, you know how you're trying to read. So when he's talking, you know, he big. You know, big country. So you're like, oh, hell no. Nobody else saying shit I got to give this nigga the ball. Jerry Stackhouse is rocking the field.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Stackhouse said that? Oh, hey. He going to swing on the real. Oh, man. Ain't nobody getting this motherfucker ball no more. Look, Google it. Look at my shot. About 30 shots in this game.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Two, three games in a row. Stack, get him, Stack. Shit. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him.
Starting point is 01:09:02 I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. Look, Google it. Look at my shot, about 30 shots in this game. Two, three games in a row. Hey, Stack, get him, Stack. See, I went on a, what, Google it. I think I'm bullshitting. I do not doubt you, Gil.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Why? I got 2,000, 2,000. This year, first year? Three, four, yeah. Three, four, yeah. Go there. Watch. That's the whole plug, yeah. Three, four, yeah. Go there. Watch. That's the whole plug, man.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I've never seen a man get his ass pulled like that. Hold on. That means that has words. No, no, no. Later in the season. Is there another Toronto? Yeah. What is this?
Starting point is 01:09:37 You had seven points that game. Two for three. I'm just going to read your next game so I can talk. Two for three. Two for three. Two for three. Two for three. Two for three. Two for three. Two for three. Two for three. Two for three. What is this? You had seven points that game.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Two for three. I'm just going to read your next game so I can talk. Two for three. Two for three. So you had seven, then 21, 35, 35, 27, 26, 28, 23, 40, 30, 28, 27, 27. Look, I was struggling before. I'm trying to figure out the personalities before. And shot attempts went from 3, 15, 23, 27, 20, 20, 22, 15 to 33. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Because my thing is with the big man. You know, he's sitting there clapping for the ball and I miss him. And then he doing, nah, I'm just like, you know what, you don't look open. Right? You don't look open. I'm sitting here trying to, and then, you know, you don't look open. Right? You don't look open. I'm sitting here trying to, and then, you know, this motherfucker clap. I'm like, oh, damn.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Right? Like, I don't know. You got Stackhouse personality. You got, you know, Kwame trying to get in this thing. Then you got, you know, Larry Hughes. Like, I don't know. Like, man, I'm sitting here trying to figure this out. Man, I need your ball like Jermaine O'Neal. Like, damn, man.
Starting point is 01:10:46 Stack outside. Was it aggressive though? Man, hey, I told your motherfucking ass. You ain't getting the goddamn ball. Like, yeah. And all I'm looking for is like, you know, like in a locker room, what you're looking for, weakness, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:59 You're looking for weakness. Yeah. That man did this right here. Man, that's the shit I'm talking about. Yeah ain't never gonna listen to me Because they get the ball When we discuss again Read read them stats again after that game for those who didn't listen or didn't hear, hold on, I got to pull it up. You had another seven-point game, Gil.
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah, I was struggling before that. After that, go ahead. Let's hear it. 21, 35, 35, 27, 26, 28, 23, 40, 30, 28, 27, 27. You had a 13-point game against the Hawks. The team was mine. Because I'm struggling with the other one. He's the number one pick. This is City.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I ain't going to tell a man this ain't his city. He's in City trying to figure it out. Once he got called out, I'm going to hit him. That's all he needed. That's all he needed. I think that's a good spot to end this show. Bubba W, that's all I need it. I think that's a good team after anything to end this show Bubba
Starting point is 01:12:05 Do we appreciate you pulling up bro? Yes, sir Thank you for coming out to LA turn it up. What we got the smoke. We got Brandon Jenny Man I'm gonna give you one of these right man. You got the smoke smoke. Yeah, I'm using I use this in the bedroom So don't walk in soon as I walk in, every time I walk in, boom! I'm here! I'm here! That's a lot of info, Gil. Got your meat ready.
Starting point is 01:12:36 We'll see y'all tomorrow, man. We appreciate y'all pulling up to Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo-woo! Woo-woo! Got your meat ready. We love you!

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