Gil's Arena - John Salley Tells Gil's Arena LEGENDARY NBA Stories

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

Gil's Arena Breaks Down Jaylen Brown's Big Shot as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals where the Boston Celtics answered the wake up call and held off the Indiana Pacers in OT on the backs of big games from Brown, Jayson Tatum & Jrue Holiday. They debate if teams like the Pacers should foul with a 3 point lead in the final seconds of a game and highlight a shocking foul discrepancy in the game....is it obvious? They then preview Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals featuring 3 of the best guards in the world in Kyrie Irving, Anthony Edwards & Luka Doncic before debating which matchup is the one to watch. Finally, they welcome John Salley into the arena to discuss playing with Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Phil Jackson, Isiah Thomas & The Bad Boy Pistons and ask him what it was like to go from the NBA to Hollywood with his roles in the iconic Bad Boys Franchise. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!! Today's Crew - Rashad McCants, Brandon Jennings & John Salley Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $250 in Bonus Cash AND A Special Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/@GilsArena Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! - https://discord.gg/underdog Use Code GIL for Up To $100 Off an Aura Watch & 30% off Straps - https://aura.watch/gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:24 Lexie Brown Hibachi Time 0:06:38 Gil's Arena Reacts To The NBA All Defensive Teams 0:10:57 Wemby's Dominant Defense 0:24:16 Best Championship Narrative 0:41:45 Pacers Choke Away Game 1 0:47:48 John Salley Enters Gil's Arena 1:09:26 Jaylen Brown's Sneak Diss 1:12:23 John Salley Breaks Down The Modern Big 1:19:03 John Salley On Why LeBron Needs A System 1:34:39 John Salley on Playing With Kobe & Jordan 2:02:18 John Speaks on Being in Bad Boys 2:21:18 Mostly Fans 2:26:54 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Y'all don't know what goes on in practice, or the locker room. Age is zero. Change the game. Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. What's up? Wednesday. One more day before our weekend. We almost there, fellas. We got the OG crew in the building. Big playoff game last night.

Got another one tonight. A lot of things to discuss. How everybody feeling? Good. Good. Patience should have got that win last night. They let you down. Yeah.

They might not get another one. Lexi Ray is playing good. Oh, yeah. We know. We got it. Okay, Lexi, we're going to see you Friday. Lexi versus Kaitlyn Clark. Round one.

Yeah. Round one. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. Play silent. Look at the pressure. We got Mr. B, Brandon Jennings, representing Tough Crowd and Tough Crowd University. And Ho's mad, too.

What are they mad about, Brandon? They just be mad. They be mad. Just be mad. How do we make them happy? You can't. It's impossible. It's impossible.

It's the age-old question. And we got the dream killer, Rashad McCants, back in the building. You can't. No, wait. You know what? He's got the dream killer Rashad McCants What is it now cemetery Larry Update the dog. Update it, baby. I got to update the dog. Every day, man. You're coming in hot. Every day, man. Every day, bro. You're coming in hot. You know what I'm saying? We are still waiting for the body bags to get here. I mean, they on the way. They're going to take a little bit.

It's hard to get them. You know what I'm saying? They start flagging your account and being like, what you need body bags for? Don't worry. Don't worry. Always a good reason to have a body bag. But I say you got the Pat Ewing's on fat man. Yes and New York You know how this and I take it about my views Houston hat. Yeah, they don't sell them nowhere, but on tick-tock now wait, there we box

They know they've had you and so just a pet human. How was the rebar? No, that's his own like his own shit It's rebar. You ain't twisting no ankles with that. Mm-mm. Shaq had Shaq. Shaq, Sean Kemp, Apex was... LA Gear, you thinking of LA Gear? Nah, I mean when I first came into the league I was with Reebok and I had the orange blues. The pumps.

The deep browns. Deep browns, yeah. Nah, they wasn't deep browns. I don't think so. I thought it was Patrick Ewing. Okay, that's not clear. Nonetheless, no ankles getting twisted in no shoe. Yeah, it wasn't the Browns. I don't think so Nonetheless your no ankles getting twisted in ocean. They got all kind of support He's starting to start I was his first his first shoe was you wings

Okay, he oh damn Taking it back down memory. I'm with Sergio 89s and the Pat you in 89s, man We throw it back, man. A lot of red on the couch today, just pointing that out, but it's all good. Do what you do. And we got a special guest pulling up shortly. Let's just say he's a bad boy for life on and off the court.

Oh, we got a special note about the Ewing. So after Ewing parted ways with Adidas, his first shoe endorser, he had his agent David Falk create his own brand, which is the Ewing brand. Shout out David Falk, also Michael Jordan's agent. The man was making moves in his heyday, in case y'all wanted to know. But here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Pacers almost pulled off the upset on the Celtics in Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals, but did they blow their best chance to make this series competitive? Wimby became the first rookie ever to make an all-defensive first team,

but is he on track to become the most dominant player ever? We will discuss. And the Western Conference Finals tips off tonight in Minnesota, but will Ant-Man or Luka lead their team to the promised land? Before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Please help us help you. Underdog Fantasy has been so gracious, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. Please help us help you. Underdog Fantasy has been so gracious in presenting and sponsoring this show.

Download the app, use promo code GILL, and you can receive up to a $250 in bonus cash and a special pickle. And if you were watching the show yesterday, we gave you four picks on this couch. I went fade with them, fade them, tail them, rock with them, whatever. You should have went with them. If you like making money, because you would have came up big. We nailed all four. So we just might know what we're talking about. Shout out Tyrese Halliburton.

I knew he would bounce back from those janky game ones. And we got some special love to show in just a moment to one of our very own. But as always, we do mostly Fans at the end of every show. So if you drop a good question in the chat with your Underdog Fantasy username and we use that question on this program, you get a $50 bonus to your Underdog Fantasy account if you send us a video at mostlyfansguild

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We got wherever you want. If you're on the phone computer the special works phone whatever we have viewing options for you but if you cannot watch the show live with us on youtube we got audio versions available on apple spotify wherever you get your podcast from so we got a lot to discuss today but first we got to show some love to one of our very own with a very special hibachi time oh i missed these lights with a very special hibachi time. Uh-oh, I missed these lights. We ain't done hibachi time in a minute. So the Sparks were winless so far this season heading to their matchup with the Mystics on Tuesday night. But Lexi Brown said enough is enough and did what she does best.

So Lexi led the Sparks. 20 points, 6 assists and 2 steals. 3 for 6 from 3. Taking low-go threes. All that goodness. She had the dimes as well. De'Erica Hamby added 17 points and 18 rebounds. Cameron Brink had 8 rebounds

and 4 blocks, including a game-saving one. It's time expired, but Lexi was on her game, in her bag, knocking them things down. So great to see her back on the court. I know she dealt with a lot last season. She worked very hard to get to this point. Got the Sparks cooking in anticipation for their game Friday against the Indiana Fever. Number one overall pick, Kalen Clark. More Lexi.

Oh. Okay. Dime. Or Lexi. Oh. Okay. Dime. Dime time. But, try to think about Lexi out there. I'm trying to see that Friday. So,

we only come to see her Friday. We will be court side or board side depending on, you know. We'll set you claim. We better be on the, better be on the wood.

My feet better be on the wood. I'm on my foot on the wood. For $50. Sandal, you were in sandals again? Yeah, John Glitza. My feet better be on the wood. I'm on my foot on the wood for $50. Sandal? You wearing sandals again? Yeah, John Glitza. $50, man. $50.

It's a little bit more expensive than that, Joe. Oh, yeah, Caitlin Coney, $100. It's a little bit more pricey than that. More than that. What? More than that. I saw the tickets on... We got ours last year, bro.

I know. $100. It wasn't $100. It wasn't. It's on Groupon,'s no group I mean we get to free She put us on her buddy pass. Damn. She put us on her buddy pass. That's always four. Alexi crew plus four. Did we get to go in the back after the game?

Yes. Okay. All right. I'm going to come with the ticket. Spend an extra $3. Meet the players. Damn. Autographs and the whole lot.

Damn, bro. You're going hard, bro. I'm just being serious. I'm just being serious. I'm just being serious. I'm just being serious. I'm just, bro. Gil going hard, bro. You know, man, I'm just... They going to boo you. I'm just being serious.

I'm just being serious. As always, the views expressed on this show are solely that of Gil and do not necessarily reflect the views of Underdog Fantasy. I got to say, though, Lexi's game looked like she could be top scorer in the league.

The way she playing. Like, that vibe that I see, I'm getting Bucket's vibe. That's, I'm number one option vibe. Give me the rock, I'll get 30 and we lose. Hey, still got 30. I lead the league in scoring type shit. She played all 40 minutes in the game. She pulling from there. She pulling from there. Yeah, she pulling from there

Her face did not move. She pulled from the pyramid her face did not move after she made it It wasn't no yeah. Yeah, it was like we work on this. Yeah, we do this We saw it in the first ever girls arena shoot. I presented my underdog fantasy. Whoa. Hey now you see why I take that 1.5 Oh, yeah, I take the 1.5 over I take the 1.5 higher they don't want to put it back on there the threes

yeah they got it the first game they don't want to do it again keep putting that 1.5 I'm going to

put you with 2.5 underdog come with that Lexi Brown special in honor of this show try it again you got us game one try it again

she's shooting at me now Lexi said she wants to be most approved player this season comeback player of the year Go ahead and throw it. Try it again. You got us game one. Okay, try it again. She's shooting at me now. Yeah, Lexi says she wants to be most approved player this season. Comeback player of the year. So, text away. Hey, Lex, I need you to make three of them motherfuckers a day. You cannot influence.

I'm just asking. Listen, Friday, be at the game. Just play your best game, Lexi. They got it 1.5. I need three of them. Shoot that thing. I need three of them. I need three of them. They said one point.

Shoot it. You better shoot that thing. We will be on the court Friday. We will see how long we last, though. At least one of us will be getting ejected. My God, by halftime, I'm out of there. I have time to get ejected. Give me the red card.

Hostile. Keep it hostile in the territory. But shout out, Lexi, and keep doing what you do. We will see you Friday. All right, well, let's keep this moving. The NBA announced the all-defensive teams on Tuesday. So, big men dominated the first team with Defensive Player of the Year, Rudy Gobert, receiving the most first-place votes.

Wimby got the second-most first-place votes with Bam Adebayo, Herb Jones, and Anthony Davis rounding out the first team. Second team was all guards, Alex Caruso, Jalen Suggs, Derek White, Jaden McDaniels, and Drew Holiday getting the honors. You can say Jaden's a small forward, but mostly big man on the first team. Mostly all big man. I'm going to say all big man. Herb is a powerful one.

Okay. This is horrible. Yeah, this is stupid. What? This is dumb. Let it be known, Gil. The easiest job on defense is to sit back there and just wait for the guard to get there to block the shot. Yeah.

Right? Picking somebody up full court, trying to keep them from there. The guard has more responsibility defensively, right? So the guard has to pick up full court if there's doing some trapping they got to do some switching right so they're they're doing a lot of heavy lifting on the defensive end and the big man is back there blocking and securing the rebound right so the fact that you got five big men as all first team legend y Y'all are lazy now, right? When NBA players are saying, this guy is the best guard.

Like, think about the best players in the NBA, right? When we bring it down, when it comes to just ranking them, if we say, all right, Jokic, Embiid, right? One, two, and then we can throw in Giannis Bede, right? One, two, and then what we can throw in, Giannis, three, right? From there, then it goes guards before you get to Anthony Davis, right?

So that means, you know, the Shays, the Lucas, the Kyries, the shit, whoever got a guard, LeBron, whoever got a guard, Tatum, whoever got to guard Tatum, Booker, KD, Curry, like, think about all the people that got to guard these people, right? You just got to be great on three people that whole season, right? So if you're on the East or you're on the East or the West, you're only playing one of those big men a few times.

So you don't have, you're not being challenged all year around like somebody like a Caruso Holiday. They're being challenged every night by somebody dominant. And didn't they say Drew Holiday is like the best?

Last year in the players poll, they voted him as the best defender in the the players poll they voted him as the best defender in the league the anonymous players so he doesn't make so what happened this year in their

first year what happened this year that he was saying he was the best defensive player you ain't rolling you like that list no I don't like

that list because Ant-Man not in there you know certain two way players that should make it based on who they, like you're saying, you roll it out perfectly, right? Because you say, I say, like, Caruso, Suggs, and all them,

if they're getting buckets put down on them night in, night out, you can't be on this list because you're not stopping nobody. Just because you're a good hustle player, like, they would put Pat Bev up there because he move around, and he's always like a gnat on somebody, he looks like he's playing good defense but if you're putting 40 on his head every time and he might have somebody might have like a 10 point game one game it's like oh he played great defense but it's like you got a guy like ant-man who's shutting you down in key moments of the game where it's like no no i no, no, I got him now. Let me shut him down. When he's in

that position all the time against the best players, I'm considering that like all defensive. Like, and even what he's saying about the big man, the great point, because you don't get that challenge all the time. And that's why the metric for a defensive player of the year or all defensive team is the other intangibles other than just shutting your man down is being an all-around defensive player you know on the pick and roll off ball all that other shit but for the guards it's harder like what does your off ball defense look like are you getting steals and deflections yeah so if you're not just shutting your man down what is the metric i mean charges help side i, you know what I mean? Blocks. Yeah.

So, Ant-Man blocked shots. A block this year, that was like one of the best defensive players I've seen all year. It just doesn't look, aesthetically, it just doesn't look good. It's just like, and the offensive players are looking at Caruso like, man, he's just a bust his ass. How he do, how he make that? Sucks for Orlando? We b bust his ass. How he do? How he make that? Sucks for Orlando? We busting your ass.

What you mean? Well, think about it. Who is picking up Brunson full court? In the Indiana series? CJ, right? McCollum. And nine hard. All right.

So now those metrics don't account for somebody like that. He's picking up full court. Whole game. Right? Doing that. His big man don't do nothing. Just sit there. Facts.

And I'm just sitting there waiting. All right. And then I get the block. He doesn't pick the full court. Made this man run and do all this. And then I come in with the block and I look like the great defensive player. That just doesn't. So it doesn't equate.

That's why I said they don't have an equation for that. Their equation is after you get past half court, who is closer to that miss, like who's closer to the miss. Yeah. Right. If someone's making all layups, obviously the big man. Right. Right.

Team efficiency. Like it just, the metrics is not made for. There's no metric for energy expended. Yep. The energy that is expended for a guard to pick up 94 feet and and like what they did to Murray Minnesota did to Murray They got to start tracking like think about like miles being tracked right like offensively and defensively right, you know like a

Guard if you telling this guard he has to pick up full court, he has to pick up full court, 94 feet to then do that. Like you have to account how much output a guy is actually putting in because a big man is just sitting back there relaxing. So in your guys' opinion, what makes a great defender in the league? Obviously there's a lot of intangibles that don't show up in the stat sheet. Effort. Relentlessness.

Like, even though you beat him, he's like, you know, I beat him, and he's still there. He's still challenging. Like, you know, like that second and third effort. Yes. You know, guys where if I went, even though he's like a great defensive player, but I got past him and he gave up, like, eh.

But if I'm going there, somebody like Tony Allen, I'll get by him. He'll swipe here. I'll switch it. He's some guy here. Even though I get a good shot, he made me think about where he is all the time. I'm mad

Colin Sexton did it. Colin Sexton is a fucking... Like somebody like him. He's incredible. I agree with that. Somebody like him, he's picking up full court. What? When does fast grocery delivery through Instacart matter most?

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He's making you use energy. He's everywhere. It's not just the pickup, right? And that's the thing about some guards. They'll pick up because that's their job, right? I'm in the game to pick up. But when he beats you, a lot of guys try to segment going to the next open guy. That alleviates when we're looking at a four-on-five situation

where he got beat, the next man has to rotate over. But if he gets back that second effort you're talking about, to get back into the play, that guy don't got to rotate. Now he gets back into play. I think last night when they blocked Derek White's shot and he was trying to shoot the three, Halliburton got back into the play, blocked that shot. He wasn't expecting that

because it was a four-on-five situation. A good defender gets back into the play. Now you don't got to rotate, I got this. But when you late, you got to go all the way over to the last rotation. I think that's one of the cards. It's really, really good at defense. It's the effort, like you said.

Second, third effort is the best part of playing defense. It's never giving up, being relentless. Even little stuff like tagging, right? That's not even an equation, right? Where someone is tagging, someone is preventing. A criteria has to be how many plays did this guy prevent from happening. That's not part

of a criteria. That's the anchor part. Let's say I'm a guard and there's a big and I caught him on the iso and then a Drew Holiday, he'll see that's a mismatch. He'll just come over and flood that side. He'll come over and flood it so I can't

take the big man. Now the fact that I passed it That's a stop. Yes He stopped me from taking this motherfucker off the dribble. That's a stop, but he's not accounted for it. He's not accounted for prevention work Somebody's guys are great drew holiday as God when I watch him and I'm breaking down defense Because I know what the offense is trying to do, I'm watching like, yo, this dude does a lot of preventive work. Yep.

Right? He is a big-time tracker. That's why I said, like, the wild thing, Braze Yao. I would have averaged 50 against fucking Cleveland. He knew where to be. If he wasn't tracking me the whole time, meaning I got Bron on the iso, like, oh, watch out. And he comes flood, like, oh, come on, dog. I got it. So I had to do,

this is how I had to do. Alright, when he's in the game, I had to do two moves. I'm going to go hard knowing he's about to float over to come here to shoot a jumper. I couldn't just go by him, right? So now I got to, alright, whoo, switch, shot. So if you ever see me playing, you'll see moves. I had to do two moves, not because Bron was on me, it's because Vrajal is flooding over. He's

tracking me, so I got to go, oh, get him. I'm getting him to move to come here to shoot a jumper. Now it looks like LeBron turned me when it's Vrajal turning me. And because he's coming over over loading up for the charge. Yep, loading up for the fucking charge. Because he knows he's like, oh, Gil likes to go and take off from here. Yep. The trackers always love, it's the mic back in football. Like, I know that I need to be here for you to make that extra play.

If you come around that corner and I make you go on the outside, I don't do my job. But I come around the corner and I make you go inside, the better chance for the defense to get to you. So you look like you're saying Drew Holiday at the nail. That's recognition. I know what play they're running. They're trying to get to this motherfucking nail. I'm going to make them pass to Derek White,

and we're going to close out to him. We're going to push him off the three-point line. He's going to pass to the corner. Now I've got to depend on my teammate to be the rotating guy. If you've got a good defensive team, like Minnesota, you know all we've got to do is be on the nail, close out to the three-point line, make the next pass, and be there on the catch.

That's great defense. But like you said, the anchor is not a metric that they're even judging by because you can be a great anchor Mic back and not get no credit for it. And we talked a lot about the media Voting for a lot of these awards, but I got to see the people in the media lock up on defense first Well, I think about like I'm just saying I gotta know what you're looking at All right. So look I'll challenge the media to do this. Just for research purposes and being a student of

the sport you're talking about. When you guys gave Luka all that credit for defense and that was the narrative you pushed, all those clips you show, look at the back line. See who the real defenders are. There was a reason you only said he was a great defender that game.

You never use that narrative again or before that. Look at the guys behind him and see what they're doing to make him look like the great defensive guy that you guys were pushing, right? Go to all those clips and watch. He was never alone, right? It's like getting in the fight, right? And then your homies is behind the door. Your homies is behind the camera. Like, you know that camera dude that's sitting like, yeah, yeah, what's happening?

Yeah, I'm here. And you got 52 dudes back here, right? Of course he's not going to swing, right? You see this guy doing this on a one-on-one fight? The reason he's getting his ass up and he's not punching back is because behind the camera, there's a bunch of dudes that That's sitting there ready. I dare you I dare I dare you You really think I'm getting beat up by a dude with a cell phone in his his strong hand He's strong hand cell phone hitting me with his left, and you don't think I'm about the mop it

No, he got 52 dudes back there. Well, if you stand on business, good. You stand on business. No, I'm not standing on business. I'm smart. I'm going to take these little punches. All right, man, come on. Come on, dude. All right, I get it, dog. I get it, dog. You know what I mean? That's when you see that. I get it, dog. I get it, dog. All right, man, you won, dog. Let's talk about Wimby real quick. Wimby made history by becoming the first rookie Ever to be selected to the first team

Youngest player ever to make an all defensive team He joins former Spurs number one overall picks David Robinson and Tim Duncan As the last three rookies to make an all defensive team Obviously the youngest of those three David Robinson was a grown ass man when he came into the league Did his naval service But uh

Wimby has a long career ahead of him Future still uncertain, but based on how generational his rookie season has been... Is Wimby on track to be the most dominant player ever?

Damn, I just did the Halliburton. Mine should have just switched up. Y'all can say it. I felt it. Is that your inside I was like, damn, man.

I just did the Halliburton. At least you noticed. He don't notice. Halle don't know he doesn't. Damn, Tyrese, I apologize for ever giggling when you switched up voices. That is... I don't even know. Yeah, that's me.

Iowa. That's the Iowa side. What do you have? It's like three and a half blocks this year? Yeah, Leather League with about three blocks per game. I think he's just going to keep dominating. And we're not saying... Obviously, there's a lot that goes into it,

health, all those different things. But from where he's starting right now, 20 years old, all these accolades, obviously the sky's the limit for him. And I don't ask this question lightly. I know a lot of people, oh, you can't project that far in the future. But I'm saying right now where we stand today, what he's been able to do this season, is he on pace to be the most dominant player ever?

Yeah. Dominant defensive player? Yeah, I think dominant defensive player. No, I'm just saying across the board. I mean, well, I think how you worded it, not just defensively. Okay, let's just. Who are we comparing him to? Okay, let's hit it.

Like when we're talking about it. No, no, no, you can. You have to. You can say, all right, we can take Hakeem Olajuwon, right, who was offensively great and defensively great. Add more blocks, some more rebounds, steals. That's kind of what we're talking about because what happens when Wimmy is averaging 28, 30, with the 14, 12 rebounds, the 5, 4 blocks, I mean, the totality of both sides, right?

You know, like, let's, I mean. And I'll say besides Wilt because when we go back to. See, we can't go back to that. But nobody's doing modern NBA. I mean, you're talking about someone who is on both sides dominating the game. You're talking about, what. I mean, you're talking about someone who is on both sides dominating the game. You're talking about, what, 87, 88 MJ? I'm comparing him to Dwight Howard.

He can't. But see, I mean, when you look at Dwight. I was just saying dominance on both sides. It was very hard to contain Dwight when he was in his element with the power and the strength of just dunking that bitch and being like, watch the fuck out. Same thing with Shaq. Right. He'd do more though. But look, defensively, Dwight had the mentality of get that shit out of here.

Don't come down here. This shit is out of here. And he was athletic as fuck, right? So I'm looking at Wimby like if he keeps that mentality of get that shit the fuck out of here and give me the ball move around it's unstoppable he don't got the power and the strength to me to dominate yet his domination is going to come from a finesse standpoint that's but seven four shooting threes the handle we can control that though on this side defensively if we put some power and some aggression to that

we can isolate that you only going to be aggressive on the defensive end because that's something we can't control. You can be skinny. You can be frail. You can still be a killer defensively. But offensively, it's difficult to be dominant. But how are you stopping a seven-foot dude who can shoot threes and take you off the dribble?

You're going to hope he miss. He takes himself out of domination. He's going to come back stronger for sure. But if he's missing shots, we can't trigger of domination. He's going to come back stronger for sure. But if he's missing shots, we can't trigger the domination. But if he's unstoppable like Joker down there, that's hard to stop. We can stop you because you're

not strong enough to force your will on us. See, that's the difference. I agree with you with Dwight. The problem with Dwight is he hurt his back before the offense came in. Facts. So I was in there when he was just getting into that offensive field, like that last playoff year where he was like,

he's turning into an offensive. Dwight, defensively, I've never seen anything like it. Crazy. I'm in a locker room where Stan Van Gundy is like, yo, how we gonna play this? What we gonna do this? And that man's like,

this is the first time he ever was serious. He was like, yo, y'all just shut the fuck up. Hey, Turk, Turk, Jay Rich, push Dwayne Wade and LeBron and me. We're down like 17 at the half. Push them to me.

I'm going to hit the motherfucker so hard. They're not coming here no more. They're going to shoot jumpers. It's going to be easy on you. He opened the gate. Dwayne came in there. Boom. They shot jumpers the rest of the game.

We ended up winning that game. But he was the only player that you can play me jameer nelson jj reddick at the one two three and he you know forgot you don't just he all he said was snap back do not foul don't bail him out i got it right and i've never seen anything like it before um he just didn't have the offense ability yet. So when Wimby has the offense. Yep, right. So when that's I'm saying when he's averaging 28 and 28 and 14 and on the offensive end and then he has his deepest life four blocks That's like he freaks around and he could leave he could end up leading the league He can end up leading the league it'd be hard because you got motherfuckers out,

these guards out here doing their damn thing. He can possibly lead the league in scoring one year. Oh, for sure. So, I mean, that's what I'm saying. That'd be one thing when all the checks marks hit him. He led the league in scoring, rebounds, blocks, deflections. That's what I'm saying. He can run

the table one year. I think it starts, though, with the rebound. I think a couple years He gonna have an MJ 87-88 year Where he sit there and he cleans the board That motherfucker might enter Three point contest one year When you guys talk about

Stuff that doesn't show up on the stat sheet on defense We saw the clips this year guys driving They see Wimby anywhere near the hoop They just back Yeah, I'm not even This a guaranteed fast break a two-on-one and they pulled it out and ran offense. That's a stop You gotta you gotta account for that That's the whole reason for the two-on-one breaks

They're doing the three-on-one and two to two-on-one back in the days to get a stop and get them you get a stop You know you were that was a big get a stop and get them. If you get a stop, you know, you were. That was the best part. Faking and making them turn it over. It was like, oh, I got to stop. You got to stop. Even if I let, if you dribble past a second, like it's like two seconds you're supposed to put it up. If I give you two more seconds, it's a stop because the defense is getting back.

It's automatic stop. So that should account as a stat. So. That is a stat. But they don't. It's when you look at their. That doesn't. That is shit. But they don't. When you look at their, that doesn't. Like, I don't know if they do it in, like, other sports or football or whatever.

Like, if you know they're trying to make this play and you make them second guess it, right, they were supposed to go long and, right, now they got to go short, right? They got to go here. That's a, whoever stopped that first initial play and made him go to two that's a that should be a credit there we're talking like an audible right like audible like if i'm if i'm a linebacker and you're about to run a play and then i move here you're like oh shit yeah i got an audible out of it i gotta check i gotta oh shit he know what's going on like a db right where we use interceptions as a big metric of a great You know defensive back, but if they're not throwing to that side at all We're not we're not even we're not going that way this this side of the field is good

I like Deion ran to do it was at Ramsey Ram Jalen Ramsey They're the Rams the fact that you can't go on his side. That's defense. Period. Oh, God. Period. Oh, God. Period. Don't even look this way. Don't even look this way. It doesn't even matter who's over there, too. It could be fucking Megatron. It could be whoever.

It's like, oh, we got Jerry Rice over there. Don't you throw that motherfucker over there. Don't you throw that motherfucker over there. So the fact that y'all had, what, 30 plays and 29 went over there, I should be getting credit for the fact that you have to go that way now. And I don't think that they dive in, like all the metrics that they dive in,

two true shooting percentage, the fuck does that mean? What is the two hoopers? What is the true defensive percentage? True shooting percentage accounts for the added value of the three-point shot. Say it again? True shooting accounts for the added value of the three-point shot yeah was it again true shooting accounts for the added value shot okay in English so it weighs the three points trees are worth more than two right percentage so if you go four four ten from three that's like going

what is that twelve four twenty from two right no no no no no that's not how you do so if I go four for ten for three, I do what? That's like going 12 for 20 from two. Yeah, equating the total number. If you treat everything as a two-point field goal attempt, even three. You can't do that.

What do you mean? That's not real. You can't do that. So it's 12 points from the three-point line. Wait, wait. 12 points from the three-point line. That's the four for ten. No, no, no.

Hold on, hold on. It's 12 points. Okay, so I line. That's the four for 10. No, no, no. I get one. Hold on, hold on. It's 12 points. Okay, so here's an example. Like shooting 60% from two, basically, is the point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so Halliburton did. Okay, so he shot eight for 18 from the field. He shot six for 14 from the three-point line.

Yeah. He only shot two twos so how do you so you just gonna enhance his two-point percentage the fact that he can shoot them shits right because he went two for he went if you treat every field goal attempt though as as two right which is the basic value but now three is weighted more because you get more points for it yeah okay so if he would have shot everything inside the three-point line, he wouldn't have got his... So how do y'all do that? He shot 14-3, 6-14. Right? So...

Yeah, so what was that percentage? I want to see how y'all actually do this. I can't understand all this math. So true shooting percentage of shooting efficiency, it takes into account field goals, three-point field goals, and free throws. So it adds it all up. Yeah, just saying. When you go 8 for 8 from the free throw line, let's say you only took two shots.

You're more efficient scoring. Because they're adding it all together. It makes sense. They don't. I get what he's saying. For a hooper, we're not looking at the true percentage. If you went 2 for 7 from the field

and you went 6 for 7 from the 3 and you went six for seven from the three, you had a good, you were shooting great from the three, but you were trash from the two. I can't make your two, I can't enhance your two point field goal percentage. I'm going to break it down like this. You went four for 10 from the game, but you only shot twos, right? That's eight points. You went four for ten from the game, but you only shot threes. That's 12 points. Still the same ten shots, but they're worth more if you take threes. Yeah, I get that, but you can't add value to something that didn't happen.

Right, right. You're adding value to a bad shooting night from the two. Four for ten from three, a bad shooting night. Four for ten is 40%. From three. Yeah, solid. So he went six for 14 from the three. That's like shooting 60% from two three Yes, so he went six for 14 from the three It's like shooting 60% from two if I just know so you can't do so like he no so he went

Six for 14 from the three that's his three point percentage So that means he went two for four so he shot 50% from the two you can't say oh If you add these up, then he will have a 70% Yeah, we% true percentage. We separate that. Keep it separated like normal. Separate but unequal. True. But when you're adding it all together,

you're making it seem like he's having a better shooting night than what he is. Well, he is if he's making more threes. No, because you're adding everything together to make that metric. But threes are worth more than two we know that Okay, Judy if you shoot two for ten from three And you shoot four for four from the field

You're having a great night from the field. You're shooting trash from the three Yeah, like what that needs to be understood from a Hooper standpoint that you need to stop shooting three Yeah, you need to go to the cup more. But if you're listening to your true percentage, you would keep shooting threes because the percentage is high. Like Luka, four for ten. That's where the cutoff, though. What's a good feeling? Like Luka, four for ten.

So Luka was four for ten from the three, right? Shot very well. 40%. Okay, 40%. And then he's five. So that means he's five for 13 from the field. He's nine for 23. Eh!

Eh. Eh! Total. Eh! But you're going to make this shit sound amazing. If he's nine for 23 shooting all twos, versus what you just broke down. He stills, it's nine for two all twos is still ugh. I don't even think that He steals. It's not what you all choose. It's still, ugh.

I don't even think that's over. That's not even. Yeah. Nobody asked you. Nobody telling you to just chuck threes, motherfucker. Stop. Stop. Yeah.

If you 10 for 10 from the, if you 10 for 10 from twos and your ass is 0 for 10 from a three, that's terrible. You are 50% from the field. This is a good conversation to have, though, field. This is a good conversation to have, bro. This is the perfect conversation to have. But that means take some more twos instead of... Nobody...yeah. If you didn't shoot those 10 birdies...

But, thank you. Stop taking threes. But you're enticing everybody to shoot threes... Yes, with the true percentage. ...because you're doing true percentage because of the threes. You're three for 11 from the threes, but you're enhancing more three-point percent shooting. Just saying it's okay. It's okay. It's okay.

It's okay, bro. If your three-point shooting percentage is trash, I would say take less three. That's the biggest issue we have in the league today. Everybody wants to shoot threes because they're worth more, but if you ain't making them shits, then it doesn't really matter. It's worth more because you're putting a true percentage. Yes. They're looking at the true percentage. It's worth more because it's worth more points.

I don't give a fuck. But we know that three is more than two, right? But that's why everyone is happy on the three-point shot. Everyone's shooting more threes. Because that's what the analytics is telling them. And they think that, oh, yeah, three is more than two. So in a fast break situation, I'm stopping short to shoot a three because it's worth more.

But my percentage from three is going to affect the outcome of the game. Because I had a two-pointer that I could have got easy. So you do shit like this. Alright, let's say I shot 36% from the three. You'd be like, well, if you only shot twos, you'd be

at 54%. Stop! Some of these motherfuckers can't make layups. You ever thought about that? They can't make a layup. You know how hard it is, easy to shoot a three because there's not fucking people down there. I'd rather shoot a three than go there and have to face fucking Shaquille O'Neal.

So my shooting percentage from the layup is not a true 56% because if I had to make all layups going against Shaquille O'Neal, I'm not shooting 56% Contested too That's contested There's a motherfucker down there trying to smack I got a pump faking shit

So that is a harder shot because their defense Me pulling up from the three is easier That's the problem Even talk about the midi The midi is the shot that's least practiced in the NBA, right? So they call it an easy contest when you're talking about non-contested twos. They don't want to take those shots. The percentage is going to be way lower.

Because of the distance from the hoop. But if you got a good middie, then that doesn't matter if you're making it. At all. But if you're taking more middies and you're making more middies, is it going to go high? The percentage will go high. In theory, it could be an easier shot if the defense is back there. Five by five.

Because it's less defense. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I get it. How do you guys feel about hockey assists? Should that be added to the game? As an assist? Yeah. Fuck yeah.

You come down, you know you're making that play because you see that right there. Yes. Like, that should be a stat. Yeah, I'm surprised that hasn't been. I feel like the hockey, because that. Squares get to work. Because you've got to be smart enough to know. To see that right there. Yes. Like, that should be a stat. Yeah, I'm surprised that hasn't been. I feel like the hockey, because that. Squares get to work. Because you've got to be smart enough to know. To see that.

And the guy, even the guy you're passing to, got to know. Like, boom, boom, hit it to him, bing, bing. Yeah. The only reason I bring it up, because you said about the defense and stuff, about Drew, like, knowing certain situations, like, you should be rewarded. And you'll really see, you'll really see who's more valuable in team scoring, right? Like this guy might have six assists with 15 hockey assists. Yeah, facts.

Right? And the guy that he's passing to might have 10 assists because he's getting it from you. Like, all right, okay, I'm going to pull him over. Boom, make that extra pass. Right? Man. about that the high low yeah right you get the ball on the wing he's being fronted in the post yeah throw it to the throw it to the guy flash and bang bang perfect boom i'm saying yeah i like that i'm trying to make this entry i've seen him playing high i mean pass it to you you pass it to him. We both get this. So we asked to check, could Wimby be the most dominant player ever? 68% said yes.

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Yes. Cool. Stop these. It's like the SATs. You just put it in. Abba, cadabba. Done. Done.

Niggas look up like, yeah, your ass failed. Get the fuck out. He'll be back. You knew you were taking them chances. You looked over. You looked over like, he's not getting it. First motherfucker to get up, the hand in their chest. You failed. You failed, nigga. Scoop it up. He'll be back. You knew you were taking him, Chester. You looked over. You looked over like, he's not getting it. First motherfucker to get up, the hand in their chest. You failed.

You failed, nigga. Stupid ass. He'll be back. Rest in peace, Ricky, for boys in the hood. At least he passed his. So which of the four remaining teams winning the title would make for the best narrative? So which of the four remaining teams winning the title would make for the best narrative between the Wolves, Mavs, Pacers, or Celtics?

Start the clock. Have at it. For the best narrative, I'm going to go with Dallas. Why would Luka and the Mavs winning the title make for the best narrative? Because of how hot they started last year, bringing on

Kyrie and all the negative attention that Kyrie got and how he ruins teams everywhere he goes, that narrative. That was a new, okay. Yeah, so the fact that if they win it, if they win it, how of an unsung hero he will become. Yeah. And also just that narrative,

you can't win without Bron. You tried to go to Boston, you tried to go to the Nets and do it with these football super teams. And then on the other hand, you get the hero. The hero's dominating.

Your favorite. Boom! You know what I mean? You get both. Yeah. I mean, for me, I was going to say Dallas too, but I'm going to say Minnesota.

I like Ant-Man, the young. I think he's the face of the league, and I think just the way he's been approaching the game and been dominating, I think it'd just be a beautiful story, too, because it's like the future is bright. Minnesota first championship. I do like that Dallas one, though. That's what I was going to say about the Dallas thing withrie is like being like if they win a lot people gonna have to Oh, I'm apology. Yeah, like seriously like

He beating the drum. Let's get it. Mm-hmm shot Which of the four remaining teams winning the title would make for the best narrative Boston. Yeah, awesome for sure. That is your squad Yeah, yeah, I mean since they ain't won since 2009 is that the year they won? Oh wait Oh wait, oh wait, oh wait, oh wait, it was the last championship and even before that it was 80s you know, so Boston is due due to prestige and legacy Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown been there

Seven years five six seven years trying to get there Trying to be the face of the league matching up against a guy like Ant-Man and Luca I think you know you look at the the dynamic between all three of those superstars You're like damn somebody got to win it who who should win it Who who we would be surprised to win it? I think those are surprises Yeah, I think Tatum is the one we like a you gotta win it. I think those are surprises. I think Tatum is the one we like, hey, you got to win it. It's more pressure on them.

So the narrative behind that would be, I think, like dreamlike for him in Boston Celtics. Yeah, for that narrative so they can shut up. They don't. They got to move around. They got to move Tatum if he going to win, man. Nobody rocking with the Pacers? That's nasty work, man. That's nasty work.

That's nasty work. They don't have no, I mean, they don't have no back lines, so there's no drama inside. Miles Turner getting his first ring, Gil? No, but what I'm saying is

you're coming up with the best scenario. There's no... TJ McConnell? There's no drama. There's just a, you know, just a young, you know... Rick Carlisle.

Dirty Rick. Look at the mask. Dirty Rick. Rick and Morty looking ass. Li know, just a young, you know. Rick Carlisle. Dirty Rick. Look at the mask. Dirty. Rick and Morty looking ass. Liar, liar. Liar, liar. Oh, well,

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Well, you got too much creative Brains over here. We'll come. If you act right now, I'm giving away three for now. I'm just kidding. But we had a big game last night. Brandon, your prediction almost came true.

Almost. Almost. But almost only good in horseshoes and hand grenades. So Pacers pulled up to Boston Tuesday night after a Game 7 win over the Knicks Sunday. Many thought there would be a cakewalk for the Celtics who have yet to face a real challenge this postseason. Things looked bleak early as the Celtics jumped out to a 12-0 lead, but the Pacers bounced back and were a few miscues away from stealing Game 1. Let's take a look at the highlights.

So the game was tied at 64 at the half and the Celtics led by as much as 13 in the third quarter. Pacers battled back and Halliburton 3 cut the deficit to one head into the fourth. Pacers went on a 7-0 run to take a four-point lead with a little over four minutes remaining in the game. And then we're up as much as five when the Celtics started to battle back. Drew Holiday had a huge game. We'll talk about that in a second.

But Nembhard hit a big jumper to put the Pacers up three. And then with 10 seconds left, and Emhart tried to end the ball to Siakam Brown with the big defense. Turnover. Celtics get the ball back. And then you know what happened here. Siakam, hands behind his back. Underneath his crack gets a Jalen Brown jumper right to the grill

to send the game to overtime. So after going two for seven in the fourth quarter, Jason Tatum woke up in overtime scoring 10 of the Celtics 16 points, including a big three to put the Celtics up four with 42 seconds remaining. He also had this. Oh, shit. Put back. Oh, there we go. And TJ McConnell. That was it right there. Wanted nothing to do with it. But, yeah, with a little over 40 seconds remaining, nice step back three. Celtics went on to win the game. Tatum led the Celtics with 36 points, 12 rebounds, 3 steals.

Jalen Brown had 26 points, 7 rebounds, 5 assists, and 3 steals. And Drew Holiday had a season-high 28 points, won with 7 rebounds, 8 assists, 3 steals. Pacers had 7 players and double figures, led by Halliburton, who bounced back from 2 nasty game 1s this postseason. He had 25 and 10. Siakam had 24, 12, 7 assists. Myles Turner, big game with 23 points, 10 rebounds.

Celtics had 32 points off the Pacers' 21 turnovers, shot 20 more free throws in the game, proved a 7-0 this season when coming off at least three days rest. And in the postseason, they won five straight games on the Pacers. So, we gotta go back to that big play at the end of regulation. After the game, even LeBron didn't understand why the Pacers didn't foul Brown before

his game-tying three to send it to OT. Why you didn't switch that right there? Let's look at it again. I would've switched that, too. Boom. Rewind. As we why didn't switch that right there. Let's look at it again. I would have switched that too boom rewind But why do I okay stop right there switch this is this is this is it starts off with Halliburton absolutely What are you doing one? It's always you're always taught to cut off the baseline here side, right? so the fashion everything is He's like a two doesn't beat you right here.

Right? So we always do. There's five seconds, right? You count three before you switch. Right? So if you're cutting off the one, two, three, then you get onto the ball. Right? So the fact that he's the one who's giving us space for that shot here.

So it starts with him first. Facts. Yeah, he has to cut that baseline pass off. The fact that he's looking around is weird as fuck to me. Like, you're supposed to know that's the only place the ball can go. Rewind it right now. Right there, that is great defense. I'm sorry like Siakam Siakam, right? He didn't he didn't bite on it He didn't try to block it. He didn't foul We've seen a bunch of games where SGA tried to block this shot and fouled them

Jalen Brown making his shot. I Mean the only thing I would say Siakam maybe getting his hands up to contest, but even that. But I'm saying that's a good shot. Because the way he's shooting it with his elbows forward, that could have easily been a foul. So the fact that. And it looked like it could have even still been a foul. It could have still been a foul. So you don't want to even give that a chance.

Jalen Brown shooting that type of shot. And I'm being real. It still looks like a foul. And shooting that type of shot. And I'm going to be real. It still looks like a foul. That's a good shot. That's a hell of a shot. It is, but that's a good defense, though, too. That's the kind of shots you want. That's the kind of shots you want.

In crunch time like that, a clean look. It's a clean look. His athleticism. All he's thinking is let me get up here and get a clean look, and I can knock it down. Because, I mean, that's what I said. Siakam didn't even bite on it, right? I'll just say hands up.

Because if that was Klay Thompson, if that was Tatum right there, he would have probably jumped past him. Gave him an open three. So the fact that he did stay down, you can't be upset with a good player making a difficult shot. You have to be upset with just how you played it, the out of bounds. When you're going back and feeling them, you're talking about the out of bounds part first. That's where you fuck up.

You fucked up on the out of bounds.bounds part first, right? That's where you fuck up. You fucked up on the out-of-bounds. You know, maybe switch it there. And those are really the things that you can take from it. Well, they lost the game before that. They lost the game to play before that. Go back to the play before that. This Yakum hit it out-of-bounds play. Right here? Just now.

That's the play. Rewind a little bit. So the inbounds, but Halliburton had a costly turnover. All right, listen. First of all, where is the ball at? Where are we going, right? Yep. We have a timeout.

It's 10 seconds to go. Look where we got the ball. The fact that we got everybody up here in the front court. No one's coming directly to the ball. I'm calling a timeout. Rick, fortunately enough, came out and took accountability for the thing that

he fucked up on, but this is the thing that lost him the game. You're up three. You got the ball with ten seconds to go. There's no way you fucked this up. As a team, in Boston, up three, ten seconds to go, timeout no way you fucked this up. As a team, in Boston, up three, ten seconds to go, time

out. No one's open. That's a tough pass. We waiting for that and he's going out of bounds. He's going the wrong way. That's a tough pass. Siakam, to me, is like, yo, what are you doing? And then Tyrese, like, what are you? Rewind that again. Y'all all in places where it's hard to catch the ball.

Tyrese runs to the corner. Yeah. Why? Go a little bit more. He takes it. We had sort of patience mentioned. Takes the angle back. Right there.

Good play. No, rewind. Okay, so, obviously. Would you throw it like this? No, that pass should have been... Go forward a little bit. Who's that bottom dude? Who's Tatum got? He's beat. Okay, he switches it.

Drew has it. Right? Yeah. See, I can come to them. He came late, too. Yeah, Derrick White. See, that Derrick White messed... I mean, I probably would have went to Tyrese and got it right back. But Derek played it right. He played it the way you play when you're in that situation.

That's why you have to call it. Yeah, rewind. Now, this is what we was talking about on defense, right? Derek White don't get no credit for this, right? So he switches, and then he stops this. That would have been an easy pass. He stops it just for a little bit, right? So now he can't make that pass to him. He's looking at his eyes

He's stopping to see I can pass and making see I can Keep coming. Yep Now Brown makes the great defense What would make see I can want to go touch that ball again again as he probably thought he hit it thought he hit it He thought he hit it last. Yeah, and he was sailing as he kind of did I think yeah I'm sorry to tell on that replay. I don't know but like you mentioned so so after the game both Rick Carlisle and Halliburton We're willing to take the blame for the loss Well, I love the way our guys fought in this game.

This loss is totally on me. With 10 seconds in regulation, we should have just taken the timeout, advanced the ball, and found a way to get it in and made a free throw or two and ended the game. That's not on him. That's not on him. Us as players, we've We gotta do a better job. I Had two bad turnovers that I feel like cost us the game one and fourth and one in overtime so

You know, I know I understand he's protecting us protecting You know me as well, but I'll take that more than more than he should I gotta be better and I will be better in game two, and we'll respond the right way. B. Yeah, that was, you know, it doesn't, it's not Rick, right? He could call timeout. He could trust his team, right?

The ref is behind him. The ref is watching the play. So to get the ref attention, to call that timeout is... Look, as a group, they messed up. It was no different than when Cleveland got that offensive rebound and they want to blame J.R. Right? That's everybody's fucking problem. Right? Right?

Not knowing that he was going to get the rebound and call a timeout. You know, hey, if we get an offensive rebound, put it back up and call a timeout. That wasn't even on the coaching staff's mind. So it's everybody at the same time. I hate when that happens though. You go brain dead. It's like, bro, why are we going brain dead? Everybody should know.

Why does that happen? We tell ourselves, and I know how JR was thinking, just get the offensive rebound. Get the offensive rebound. Get the offensive rebound get the office rebound get the office Rebound get the officer. He gets it. He didn't think about anything else like oh, I got it shit Oh and it happens the expectation is for the coach to call timeout Yeah, when I get it, I'm looking around like alright now what you you put so much emphasis on doing it that you didn't think about What if I actually got this shit?

What am I supposed to do? Right. And that happens. I need to get the steal. Just get the steal. Get the steal, Gil. And then you don't really have a counter. And that's the thing in college, that you're taught in those situations

to call time out. Yeah, because you guys always huddle up. Huddle up. And the coach is saying, hey, listen, we get the rebound, call time out. If he misses it and we get it, call timeout. Why we don't huddle up like that in the NBA? Because it's professional. Because we come out of

the timeout. We already know. We're supposed to know. We're supposed to know. But think about it. A lot of niggas leave the timeout and they didn't even... They still don't be going either. They're not paying attention. I've been in timeouts where it's like, they still don't even know. Dude wrote the play, you'd be like, yo, we just wrote the play. But it's that self-talk.

That's what I'm saying. You're telling yourself to do, and that's all you're really focused on. That's all you're focused on. It's just crazy how we go brain dead for like five seconds. It's like, yo, we didn't know we had to sign off. You know how you're like, I need to miss the free throw? You know, like that person has a part two to I need to miss it and then I'm going to throw it here. Right?

He knows what he wants to do with it. It's like, all right, miss it, then what? No, I'm going to miss it and then throw it here. So when it happens, he got it. Yep. Right? And sometimes we just, we be so narrow minded that we forget that there's something else to do after we get the shit. And you got to think about the experience, right?

They're so young, and I honestly feel this, and this is no knock on Rick, but Rick panicked. Rick has experienced enough to know what the fuck to do in these moments, and he fucking panicked. He can't. He can't. He ain't out there, man. No, he panicked not to call the timeout

because it's a situation. The situation, 10 seconds on the clock. He ain't out there, man. No, he panicked not to call the timeout because it's a situation. The situation, 10 seconds on the clock. We up three. This is our game. What are the end-of-game situations that I'm going to put my team in to solidify we win? We already in an advantage. It's advantage.

The only way we lose is a five-second call because we don't know how to get the ball in. You ain't tell your guys. If you cannot get it in, call timeout. So the fact that Siakam comes late, breaking to the ball, and this is the last thought. If you're an experienced player, Nembhard is not. What, he a rookie? Second year.

Second year. I don't know. If you're Thaddeus Young or who? I can't remember who on that list. He played in the championship. If you're James Johnson taking that ball out. You're not risking throwing that pass one It's a horrible. It's a horrible lineup in a sense of the second. How you're go back to the beginning Stop wait go back go back. So how they lined up in the first place. Right? What is that? It's what it is.

Like what you used to do. Line up, straight line. Right here. That's easy to guard, though. What I'm saying is, who are you supposed to be passing the ball to? Who are you looking for? If you're looking for a Hallie, you should already know they're going to switch and Drew's going to be. Then you have Siakam.

Siakam, you're in the way. You're in the way. You're in the way. You're in the way right now for any if the defense fucks up, like let's say Jason Tatum falls while Dew's taking off. Brown can cover both you guys. So either you got to

go past the guard sign closer to the baseline or you got to come down too. There's no room. It's easily guardable right here. Now, I can tell you what a very elite mind would have did a Jason Kidd, a Steve Nash, a Chris Paul, a Luka. They would have bounced it off of his back. Yeah, I'm about to say that.

I'm about to say that. I would have did it. Drew Holiday's playing bad defense right now. But is he too far to make that point? No. Because he can't see shit. I can tell you he's just doing a little that's what's that only certain minds would make it Yeah, I can't give a fuck type cuz I'm not doing it, right? I'm not accurate like that guy.

I'm fucking around hitting the back of his shoulder. He would have gotten that bitch in the spot like, oh, God damn it. You got them hard the second you do it. I'm just saying that if Drew's a little bit closer, it makes more sense. Because even if it's a janky off the back, I'm still be able to get him. That's far enough where it could die. That's only a – if Hallie was in that situation, that's his type of play and should he have been taking the ball out? Yeah, the outcome takes the ball out. It gives us three guards to run around and get the ball It's just it's just it's just a bad situation now even even like if you have Holly right there, right?

He can just pop in the corner get the ball because right now we know if we get the ball Defense is gonna try to go for the steal first then foul right you you have they don't have enough time to keep trying to swipe for the ball so once it goes in they have about two seconds to do something try to strip it if you can't hurry up and foul so we have about eight seconds left so if i'm rick i don't know because you can't advance the ball right here anyway if you call timeout. Yeah, you can. You can't advance the ball right here.

Yes. Can you advance it after? Because remember, the ball came, the way that they got the ball here was from a dead ball situation. I thought you called a timeout. No. It was a dead ball situation. Oh, so now they can advance it. So think about this, though.

Okay. Oh, they could. Think about this. In this situation right now. So he could have advanced it after three seconds. Time out! Advanced it. Now you have to throw it back.

Rick fucked up. So putting them hard a second, your dude in that situation, I feel like. He's a professional basketball player. I understand. He's a professional basketball player. This starts with everybody, the way they're lined up, the way Siakam is right there, and the way... If I'm looking at this lineup, I'm calling a timeout anyway.

And that's my point. Right here, just like, oh, timeout. I don't like this. I don't like it. I don't like it. Timeout. This looks... But Rick has to understand one thing and one thing only.

In this possession, Boston is dead. Their energy is dead. They're down three. If they get the ball in and they foul, right, what happens? We go to the free throw. We go to the free throw war. It's 10 seconds. So if we make two free throws, up three is the two possession game.

You make one, you're up four. Bro, it's over. Y'all have to do some miraculous shit to win the game. You make one, you're up four. Bro, it's over. Y'all have to do some miraculous shit to win the game. It's literally when you funked it up. Like, even where the ref is, right? Where the ref says plays, Hallie could have faked up and went

that way. Yeah. Right? I'm sitting here, and all I do is just gotta fake, because Derek White has to push me there. Hit him with a little touch. I ain't gotta push him. Stop it. Boom take off What happened to the old stool lazy shit? Mm-hmm? Just give me Not the biggest but sometimes

Simple is good. Yeah, right. Yeah Who is that? I don't even know who that is. Who? Which one? Neesmith? That's Neesmith. Right, Neesmith? Get the fuck out of there.

One, you get the fuck on the other side. Let Halle be right there. Now let Drew double me, right? Now you're forcing Drew to actually play me now. So if I'm sitting there, pop into the corner, now you get to look here and throw here and then go back and get it. Like, you need to force Drew.

He's playing middle, man. He's playing the safety right now. Yep. So if you get Neesmith out of there and it's just Hallie back here at the free throw line, now Drew has to play more to me. But you see in this possession right here, they didn't really practice these type of situations.

No. No, hell no. They never practiced. There's no way that's a play. That ain type of situations. No. No, hell no. They never practiced. There's no way that's a play. That ain't no play. They just went out. So think about how prepared you got to be in practice. If we're actually, hey, last five seconds of the game with a situation.

Hey, listen, guys, the last ten minutes of practice, we're doing situations only. Side out of bounds, situation. Underneath out of bounds, situation. Three seconds left what play are we running what's the play we're gonna run to get over i used to all listen it's free throw time dog i'm telling you this is free throw time right that means when they foul we're getting two free throws got it i motherfucker i don't give a fuck what coach can you go you go i'm by myself because i want to be fouled so i should see selfishness makes this play work back

So now you in my way because if you get over you get the ball you ain't That should be Holly's Holly's whole mentality like y'all get down there yeah y'all go down let me get it I got it Yes, he plays like that with ten seconds left, you always know who got the big nut. Yeah, period. Because motherfuckers be running away from that ball now. They do not want it. And then when you get it, you walk into the free throw line like, fuck. I've seen plenty of times where it'd be like me and Antonio Daniels as the guards.

Right? That's a play. Karan would be like, hey, hey. You're back. Antonio, you take my spot. Shit, I'm getting to this ball. He's like, I ain't got my 20 yet.

Me neither, too. You know, to be honest, he was our best free throw shooter. Right, no. Right? But if there's technicals, I'm not letting him shoot it because I want points.

I need that, yeah. Unless he's struggling, right? But on plays like that and they're fouling at the end, oh, for sure, Karan is switching that play to get that. But nobody can play him. That's the best free throw shooter. I'm the best free throw shooter.

Give me the ball. Give me the ball. That's what I'm saying. That's the way the Celtics kick in. But they fucked up. I mean, it might. And there were other opportunities before that. Halliburton had the turnover.

They were up three. They got the, I think, Tatum missed, and they got it, and he dribbled it off his foot. Yeah, got it and he dribbled it off his foot. Yeah, that part. Dribbled it off his foot. They had like five turnovers in the final 530 of fourth quarter and overtime, more turnovers than field goals. Before we turn it over, one thing that I did say

is that Boston can't come in this motherfucker lethargic playing like that Indiana Pacers not going to come to play. Even if the six days off, eight days off, no matter how many days off, they came in there. That 12-0 run had everybody like, look, this is what it's supposed to be. I know Gil was over there like, yeah, kick their ass. But then they got back in the game because the pace of the game is what Indiana – they play like that.

Well, same thing in the third quarter. Southers go up 13 yards. Now it's like – It was a few shots away from being over, period. Yeah. They should have got this. They needed this game. They needed it.

They needed the game. That's why I called it. Think about how close you are to that game going into the next game. Like, we can beat them. No. And I feel the same way you feel. No, it's harder. It's fool's gold for them.

It's like, we feel like we can beat them because we were so close, but they really played bad. Like, Boston didn't play great, but True Holiday played great. And that becomes the thing when you try to tell yourselves that, all right, if we clean up our turnovers, right, we can win the next game. True. But the problem is offensively and defensively, y'all played great. Yep.

The best 54% from the field, 37% from the field. Everybody you needed to play well played well. Seven guys in double figures. Every one played. You had three people with double doubles. You had Bigfella hitting his shot, dominating 10 rebounds.

He don't usually, but 10 rebounds and then the other team shot horrible. Y'all lost it on turnovers. Now when you tell yourself, yeah, we cleaned up the turnovers, are y'all going to be able to shoot like that? Are all seven of y'all going to be able to play well

like that? That becomes a problem because now you need Jason Tatum to play bad and you play good. So we got a special guest. They had a chance. Yeah, they did. Making his debut in the arena. He was a first round pick by the Pistons in 1986 out of Georgia Tech.

Went on to play 11 seasons in the league. Winning four championships in his career. Two with the Bad Boy Pistons, one with the 96 Bulls, and one with the 2000 Lakers. He's also an accomplished actor. Going from a bad boy on the court to co-starring in Bad Boys 1 and 2 as Fletcher with them thick-ass glasses. Thick-ass glasses. John Solley, welcome to Gil's Arena. How you doing? Thank you. What's going on, brother? How you doing? What up? Big Bass glasses. Big ass glasses. John Talley, welcome to Gil's Arena. How you doing?

Thank you. What's going on, brother? How you doing? What up? Big Basset. What's up, dawg? What's happening? What's up, baby?

What's new? You don't sit your big ass down. Hey, dawg. Gil sits your big ass down. I just like, wow. One of my favorite. This is nice. Cinema moment.

First time in the arena, what you thinking? This is unbelievable. Gil does some the arena, what you thinking? This is unbelievable. Gil does some amazing things. Goat carts. Art. Jerseys I'm stealing. A whole bunch of stuff. How you doing? You good?

Life is good. What's happening? Nothing much, man. Just here. Thank you. Thank you for pulling up, man. Taking time out of your schedule to come through. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was smoking weed, and I said... I might as well go smoke

somebody else's weed. That's what I was promised. That's what I was promised. Can y'all get John Sally the weed, please? Can you get him his weed? We're paying weed on this show, but just talking about

Eastern Conference Finals, Game 1, what are your impressions on that game? Huh. Just talking about Eastern Conference Finals, Game 1, what are your impressions on that game? I think JP proved to everybody why he's the highest paid player by taking the shot and having the big, like, they knew something. If anybody questions it now, they're idiots Because he definitely is a killer. And without his, I mean, he even called his teammate out. He even said, yo, when Jason finally woke up.

He did say that. I heard that. He said he woke up. I heard that. We were going to talk about it a little sneak there. Oh, shit. He finally woke up in overtime. Tatum two for seven in our fourth quarter.

Came back with 10 points in overtime. But was about to get packed up by Celtics fans if that game wouldn't have ended in a loss with that level of fourth quarter play. He might be on to something. I'm telling you, he got to move around. You on to something? Jason Tatum got to move around, man. What, this summer?

If they don't win it? Hey, Jalen Brown proving. Jalen Brown proving he can do it. Jalen Brown proving. I don't see it, but... But look, do you let him walk like LeBron? Jason Tatum? No, you don't let nobody walk.

That's what I'm saying. So if you're going to pay him, he's got to prove that you can do something. Let's win it. If you don't win it and he leaves and doesn't re-sign, if he doesn't re-sign... You're not going to trade Jalen Brown. The fuck am I going to do with you? Why won't you just trade Tatum before he... Tatum before who?

Tatum is the... We're not. Because Tatum is the... For pieces. You can't trade the face, man. You ain't getting nothing back. You gotta go look. The problem is, I'm glad

he finally woke up. We can say that about everybody. That's why I'm glad I have you. So when I'm not playing well, you're playing well. And then... That's why we gave you all that bread. Would the Cleveland Cavaliers ever thought or think about trading LeBron James in any point during that run?

Hell no. Just getting to the finals. Losing in the finals and then saying, we ain't about to trade no LeBron James. But then he leaves in free agency. Why do you think trading is the way? Just let me tell you. Everything takes time, right? When you're a baby, you get to a point where you crawl, then you get happy when you stand up, and then all of a sudden they start running. But it's a process. So when you get to the point of

one year you lose in a championship, you run into the situation with your coach, you don't make it, you come back now knowing how to get there. I don't think trading is the mentality. I think you've got to stick with, you've got to add to it. If you add to it, I think if you add to it. But now I don't think they need to add to anything. I think the Celtics are going to win the championship, truthfully. I really think they're going to get to the point.

Unless, you know, nobody gets hurt on the Timberwolves, then I'm going to get a new jersey. I mean, you're like me, right? They've had the experience of winning and losing and getting there and failing. With their age, at some point, they're hitting on a door. So when they be like, yo, trade this person,

get rid of it, break it up, to do what then? Yeah, because you're not, you break it up. The Clippers have been breaking up things forever. And that's not the mentality. You have to build on it.

Just like Timberwolves built on their situation, you have to build on it to get to a point and win it. What team in NBA history has not broken up the fucking, fucking crew? And that's the problem.

The Boston Chicago Bulls, the Boston Celtics, the Los Angeles Lakers. They ended up breaking them up. They added to it. They added to it and then you got to figure your way in. We didn't know you guys did

Kawhi was going to be what he was going to be. I didn't. I didn't know. I didn't. I just thought he was an unbelievable player. And then I started watching him and I was like, boy, Pop snuck this kid in. But he didn't. Everybody else knew. But according to being seen on television, I see it as that. Since the 2000s, there hasn't been a team that stuck it out and stuck together due to whatever trio you don done put together, how many championships they won together. It always breaks up.

I mean, you could say that Warriors... What about all the days with Kobe and Shaq? Who's Kobe and Shaq? They stayed together. But the young, like, that's what happens sometimes. Didn't they? Who? Yeah, didn't they split?

When they're old. That's when you're older, but when you're young and you're talking about 22, 23, around that age, and you still got years, breaking it up just to do what? I'd be asking. You get rid of Tatum to bring who in? To then do the same thing?

Get to the Eastern Conference, do this and do this? Because whoever that is ain't got the experience. Yeah, it is. Because you're looking at all the players in the top 15 and top 10. Who's been to the Eastern Conference Finals? All of the players in the top 15 and top 10. Who's been to the Eastern Conference Finals five times? All of the players in the top 10 and top 15. If you lose LeBron James due to free agency,

he goes to play for the Miami Heat and win championships because you didn't get nothing for him. And he was going to leave. I did. No, I did a trade. That was the dumbest thing that they did. Signing trade. See, that was the thing back thing that they did. Sign and trade. See, that

was the thing back then. They're signing and trading. I'm never going to sign and trade. Ever. Right? I'm not going to give you 120 and then, no, it says if you go there, you got to sign for 90 million. Now, that's a decision for your

ass. Because if I sign you for your max and then trade you because I'm scared to lose you, no, the real loss is you not getting one twin. That's $30 million different. Go. But the fear should be this then. I mean, why did that? If you're Boston and you don't win the championship this year

and the NBA gets harder to get back to where you've gotten for the last five years, and you do not get back there to even have a chance to, what are we looking at now? Just a good team with two good players that had a chance that didn't make it? Do we not look at the new foundation of the Boston Celtics now that we've seen this? We've seen this seven years and we never got over the hump. Who's the new foundation? My number two option? The fact that you're not going to be able to get back to where you were. Says who? Says the schedule. Says the talent.

So I'm going to get rid of the better player and the younger player? No, this is what I'm saying. If you don't get it done, you're looking at MB being healthy. You're looking at Dane being healthy. You're looking at Giannis. You're looking at the East. We don't know what changes they may make bringing other good players from the West over to the East. It's going to be more difficult.

This is the easiest roadmap for you to get this shit done where we won't even question getting rid of you. But if you don't get it done, why do I? But what I'm saying is why? I feel like I'm Dallas Mavericks. I just tied it up 2-2, and then I decided to bring Giddy off the bench. I won the game. What the fuck am I altering my team for? Why am I altering my team because I lost in the championship? I can get better.

So we're just going to... You're talking about everybody else getting better. MB's healthy. Even with MB's healthy, they can't beat us. We've been to the Eastern Conference Finals, not them. So why do I care about a team who can't even get out of the second round? How much better can you get? Like you said, it's a good enough team to win, right? How many free agents is up?

Not no difference makers. I lose in different makers. Boston's already got 187 million Committed in salary. Okay, so let's let's go to the thought though. The thought is and I like I like you saying this, right? If you don't win a championship, we got to break the squad up, but you guys are forgetting You remember in baseball is you just had to win the pennant and then if you didn't win the championship at least you won

the pennant you guys have to realize as long as you stay in the top five top six you're forgetting it's business you're selling more jerseys

you're getting more commercials you know they don't really I'm not going to say they winning the championship for some people when you got 18 hanging. Not that important.

It's making sure that you can now sell to your season ticket holders and sell more jerseys. And B, being healthy. I got to ask y'all something because y'all play and they say, why does AD and NB

why are they on the floor so much? Why do they fall on the roof? Have you ever seen big men fall at me? Not that much never why ain't got no balance They go Ladies a little dude who got me 80 ain't supposed to be that tall he grew he had a growth spurt. So he out there dangling. You can see the still, I mean, it's wobbly. It's wobbly. It's like they're not playing

strong when they need to play strong. It's like they're always, you know how guards, we're coming in, out, trying to get hit. It's like they're trying to get a foul and they're not going up strong for that

play they're going in with the ideal of getting trying to sell the call like i'm falling like me i'm hitting the floor or and you remember and you ever play with antonio daniels and that's he lived on the floor because he's trying to get fouled the whole time so he's coming in wild trying to assume that's how they're playing they're playing with a wilder style trying to force fouls and when they don't get it Mother could move it out of the way. You know Yeah, yeah, hmm Cuz they don't have y'all They don't have y'all feel like you don't have y'all back there anymore. They don't have shots you play I could play I'd be a

I'd be I'd be up here talking about why I didn't make the all-star team You can't touch me and I go to the basket? And y'all going to buy me food at Ruth's Chris? Man. A delicious restaurant. Y'all going to buddy up after? Buddy up after. Dude, I literally had Oakley throwing things at me at a nightclub one time,

and I was like, I'm going to have to punch him and run. And it ain't going to work, but I'm going to have to. Like I said, I don't know if we could play in today's game, but I know the fact that y'all let seven, four people shoot threes, I think my coaches would have stopped practice, made us run suicides. That's the thing when you go back and forth on the line. I was in 2000s. Oh, that's right.

Sometime I don in 2000s. Oh, that's right. Sometimes I don't get it. I see it. You was always this big, right? Yeah. You were born like that. Super hug. I don't know. I see it differently.

And when I watch it, and I hear it too, right? I hear when people talk about as if they're taking one piece and putting it there, and that one piece is going to perform right every time. If you don't have a bench and somebody to come in and light fires, you're not going to get it done. Do you think that it's bad for the game not to have those elements of a big man that plays traditional big man basketball instead of the 7'3", 4", 7-footer shooting threes, changing the dynamic of what the spacing used to be inside out?

Playing inside out was a thing because it was an advantage for the team who could do it the most efficiently. We were blessed that we had Bill Lambert because Bill Lambert would lay wood on somebody, grab paws. No ditty. That's what you thought.

You were looking at me. He's seen you. He's seen you. I literally hope. He's seen you. I was just confused. He's seen you. We can't use the no ditty on this no more. I told you that's more of a physical thing now.

Okay, so now we're more impressive. He would play physical, grab rebounds, but if you didn't play him, he would shoot a three. Yeah. So that was a technique, and I guess that technique has moved on. But I think about this. I think about the way you play. I mean, y'all are the last of that era. Now everybody is playing exactly like you guys set up the blueprint.

If you were in between and you can't shoot a three and dunk on a seven-footer, you can't play in the league. Yeah, facts. The league has changed. I was, so I was around when, he can take credit for it or we can blame him for it. Shaquille O'Neal is the reason the game is the way it is today. Right?

But nobody realized that. When he got, when you could not guard him with one, two, or three people, right? Think about 93, 94, when he was becoming who he was. Think about all the big men that came into the league that were fives, that said, yeah, I'm going to the four. I did. That's crazy. That's crazy.

I came in, and I'm playing for Miami. And, you know, I started losing my hair, so I started growing these little twists, trying to get the last bit. And we walked in, and he said, no, we're all going to be bald. We're going to be a team. And I shaved my head, and Shaq still gave us 20 and 20. And Ronnie Cycli got the Shakita flu. You know what that is.

Every time Shaq plays, he can do the I-6. And I was like, God, this kid is amazing. And you can't foul him all the time. And, yeah, he did change how everybody else moved. You know who else? I was amazed you used to score so much. Like, I would have hit, somebody would have really hit you back in the day. Like, the way you score and then you would have.

I loved it, though. See, I played football, so I love aggression. The reason that it was easy for me is because I was more fortunate than everyone else. We didn't have a scoring big. So I was kind of like Isaiah Thomas

where the offense was generated between the guards. So Antoine Jamerson, Larry Hughes, Richard Jefferson. We didn't pass the ball to Eric Dampier. And then Antoine Jamerson um Larry Hughes uh Richard Jefferson we didn't pass the ball to Eric Danpeer and so and then Antoine Jamerson was a pick and pop guy before there was a pick and pop guy right so when we did pick and roll it was pick and pop or take it because we didn't have to wait for the offense pass it to the big man get out of there so my second year coach was like all right we're gonna run two plays for a big man and then everything guards take over

so I Became a score versus somebody like Tony Parker. Yeah, Tim Duncan Dave Robinson He has to throw the ball. So I Was more of an attack mode and it was gonna be hard to get me out of that. Why don't you cope? Exactly. Why don't you why don't you put your hat in to become the Laker head coach? Exactly. I don't think that's a good idea. Don't give that

face like you ain't thought about it. Don't give that face like you ain't thought about it. Because I'm not even going to pretend that coaching is an easy thing, right? You know, like being able to do the plays and stuff, it's more than that, right?

It's a practice game plan, right? Subs, egos, right? Because I'm one of those. I would probably have a whole bunch of motherfuckers mad at me. Right. Because I'm not the old coach that sits there, got the blueprint, all right, we're going to serve you three minutes left.

It's like, oh, he giggling. Fuck that. Yeah, fuck that. I'm not the old coach that sit there got the blueprint. I'm going to serve you in three minutes left. He's like, oh, he giggling. Fuck. Yeah. Fuck that. His mother going over here. Bottle pop. Like I'm because even in even in like when we're playing, you've walked into a locker room. Yeah.

And you said then a teammate came in and he was like, he ain't got it today. For sure. I would be looking at the game from there. I'd be sitting there watching mannerisms. How are you warming up? Yeah. Right. You know what I mean? And I don't want to be the reason that I'm

not playing somebody and I'm messing up the kind. I don't want to be responsible for that. I went to the Brooklyn Nets Pacers game in New York. I think in March or something. April or March, and I was watching, I walk up to Carlisle and he was Chuck Daly's mentor, mentee, and he was like, Chuck said you get six points, six rebounds and five fouls.

And I go, and we'd win. I said, I had to fight for those six points and it would tap in because Isaiah was not throwing me the rock at all. But when I watch it, I watch even the warm-ups, man. When I watch them come out and they're doing their warm-up piece,

I watch KD do it with those spins like I saw. But I watch him shoot from all the spots he was going to shoot in. I saw everybody else looking to see if they side piece came in. Oh, she got the seat. Yeah, I see that. I would be highly upset. Very important. That's why I said I can't be a coach because

I'm looking at everything. It's film. I'm watching how you're on a plane. Even though I'm that player, I'm still judging you off of that. Right? And then I'll, I'm one of those guys, like, if the starters ain't getting it in, I'm the one. Bones Highland, get in there. Let me see what you got.

Yeah. See, what about the correction? Yeah. To me, it's like, when you see it, you can see it. And you can allow it to occur and develop into bad habits. Right? But for me, it's always correction before the storm comes. You can see it and you can allow it to occur and develop into bad habits, right? But for me, it's always correction before the storm comes. And if you see these things during warm-ups, that means that they've been doing this shit in practice.

So this is a correction in practice where I'm going to let everyone know, if I see you in here bullshitting, don't even be looking over at me wondering why you ain't playing. This happens for preparation. Mm-hmm. Don't even be looking over at me wondering why you ain't playing. This happens for preparation. Our preparation is going to dictate our success. Our success is going to dictate your paycheck, nigga. Do you want to get paid? And take this shit serious, because I don't want to have to be the one to blame because

you're not getting paid, because you're not getting no playing time, because I'm looking at your mannerisms, because you don't want to take this shit serious. That's the first thing. That would be my first- Maybe you should be a coach. That would be my first speech. You don't want to take this shit serious. That's the first thing. Maybe you should be a coach. That'll be my first speech. You don't want me to coach. My first speech would be like, hey, man, how many of y'all want to be max players? Everybody raise their hand.

Do y'all know what it takes? Probably not because y'all not. But look, you know what I mean? You can't be sarcastic. I know. But you know what I mean? Because that's the reality part of it. They don't want to fight. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. They don't like the fact that you're what I mean? Because that's the reality part of it. They don't want to fight.

That's what I assume. That's what I assume. You know, like, the fact that you're not, I mean, that's. But, I mean, do y'all know what Steph and LeBron do? Right? Do you know what KD does? If you don't, this is what they do. They're taking 1,000 shots a day.

They're not going to the club every city we go to. They in the gym working out three, four times a day. That's what they do. Right? Y'all first bus, second bus. Max players, there's no second bus. They don't know what the second bus look like. They don't know what it smells like.

Because they've been in the gym since 3 o'clock. So I shouldn't. I got buses, different buses. Yeah, first and second bus. Shit. I think they got third bus now. There shouldn't be no third bus. I don't know what the second bus looked like because I was in a cab.

First bus is for the young players. Young players get there early on the first bus. Second players, Vets players, they get there a little bit after. See, I was told that I had to take a cab. I'm about to say. I had to take a cab and get there 3, 4 o'clock. Yeah, I'm about to say that. So that's all I knew, 3 or 4 o'clock.

There was no first bus. I had to get there before everybody to get all my thing so that's all i know so i got to see i'm a rookie trying to get on the court being punished in my mind i'm being punished fucking here doing line drills and all that stuff but i'm seeing kobe bryant here i'm seeing uh steve nash i'm seeing ray allen here. I'm seeing Steve Nash, I'm seeing Ray Allen. Oh, this is the time the superstars come. Yep. Oh I'm seeing this is when the superstars work out and I'm watching my play one then when the rest of the team come in And I'm sitting here and they sitting there they shot going ain't doing if they can't get a rhythm and I'm looking down there Kobe in the back he ain't coming out because he already did his shit. Nope, nope.

That's what it is. So when I'm telling kids, you want to be a max, then you got to fucking work like one. Because I'm telling you, I'm not going to tell you, I'm not going to be in your ass where you got to take a thousand shots.

That should already, you should already want to do that. You should already want to do that. I don't understand, players, look, they're giving fucking money out. Right? What are you going to do? 260. Because your kid

is great. I watched your kid becoming great. What are you going to do when he relaxes? The same thing I said that. I'll be like this. He'll be sitting there playing video games. And I'd be like, you real good at this game. Man, you put a lot of hours in, huh?

Yeah. You look like a $100 million dude. He's like, what that mean? Because if he was bad at this game, that means you on the court. That dude that's sitting on the court not on these games that's 300 million right there Mmm, the time you you spending four five hours in here when you could have got four five thousand shots And I'll be telling him it takes it takes one hour on a shooting machine at three seconds to take a thousand shots You spend the hour on here where your ass could have

been Steph Curry out there. That's a bar. I'm not going to sit here and, hey man, we need to go to the gym. You should know. Your sister was out there. You should know. I be saying it. I say, your little brother wake up at 5.30 every morning.

That's a bar. I'm like, yo, you should be training for Kyrie. You got to guard Kyrie. I said, you at the age where you got to face Luka. You got to face Jalen Green. You got to go against Brunson, motherfucker. Shea.

So I don't know who you think you're training for, but they whooping your ass. I told him yesterday, I said, Jalen Green right now, they stopped winning. 30 days ago? 40 days ago? Yeah, probably 40. He works out three times a day right now.

He in the gym three times a day going hard. I said, he's been done only 30 days and he's three times a day already. How you think you match it up to that dude right now? You better get real. I'm just being real. That's who you got to face. You over here thinking about Chatsworth, I mean, you know, Fierce Kane kid? The fuck, fuck them.

Shit, that's who you got to call. My boy Michael Christian and I, we would be like, we would be at the club, and Joe Dumont said, it's good, 8 o'clock in the gym. And we'd be like, yeah, yeah, we'll be, it's good, 8 o'clock in the gym. And we'd be like, yeah, yeah, we'll be there.

And we would literally put our stuff in the back and get there at 6 and sleep in the car. So Joe would knock on the door because we wasn't going to go home. We'd make it back up. Boy, 12, and Joe would work out four hours, put on a suit, and then go to his office. I thought, what does he do? And then he became the president. I was like, oh, obviously what I didn't know. I didn't know what to do. I didn't know what to do.

Let me tell you, let's talk about it. Vlad made sure, even though I hooked you up with Vlad, you still didn't have my number. Don't worry about it. It's okay. I'll try to get your baby mama to live longer and take care of your kid. But don't worry about it. You don't have my number. You and I had the same idea that LeBron would have more championships if he had, I think, if he had a system. I'm not saying LeBron is better than Michael Jordan. I don't think

anybody's better than Michael Jordan. For about 12 years I said Kobe and Mike, I did that because I needed to stay relevant and you all hate me. I know how to do television. I need to give you an idea. You only do it on TV. I learned from somebody. But this is what I think. And I thought about the system.

I thought about it because when I knew I was coming on today, I'm telling you, if LeBron, the reason it seems like LeBron is, like, firing people and getting out, because of what you said. He only wants to win, and everybody else wants to be cool. And I think if there was a system

where you can see automatically where things are going wrong, like in the triangle, Kobe broke the triangle, Shaq broke the triangle, Michael broke it all the time, but it was set up to hypnotize whoever's playing defense is when you can do your thing. Because they were just like, he's going to cut and beat me again. I'm not helping this guy.

It confused everybody. So when I said that on my podcast, that's what I was talking about. I was talking about if he had something he can go down to, not when it's down to five seconds and everybody just goes, everyone stands there and go, what you going to do?

Every time it's what you going to do, you really can't get it done. So you talked about that. Let's show that clip from your TFU podcast. Are you making those comments? LeBron doesn't have more championships because LeBron never played in a system that breeds championships. The triangle offense had Phil and Michael win six championships. They would have won eight championships if Michael didn't go away.

Ain't that the truth. Then to prove that point, they come to L.A. and he wins five championships with the same offense with a great player. But it's a system. They couldn't beat the triangle system. Then this guy named Steve Kerr goes and takes a version of it and wins four championships with it. It's a system. LeBron never had this triangle system.

It was all put the weight on him. And anytime you put the weight on somebody without the system, they didn't win. LeBron, I guess you got to go to Golden State, buddy. Yeah. Yeah. Kevin Durant was the smartest move. Because you guys have been, I watched it the whole time. Gil, you don't have a championship, but you're a winner, right? There's a difference between a winner and a champion.

You can't come on the other side of the velvet rope, but you're still a winner. And I just think, I've been watching him. And I played against Magic, and I still have nightmares. I still, if I think basketball, I think about Kevin MacKell and that smelling like garlic on purpose type stuff. And Larry Bird just going, you know, I still have those thoughts because I didn't sleep the night before,

and then when you got to play, you're real sleepy, you take a nap, all this different stuff. When I think about LeBron, I think about how when you give him the ball and he's dribbling, all of a sudden everybody's just sagging because he knows he's going to pass it first. And he knows when he passes to the guy, it's a 40%, 30% chance he's going to hit the shot. In the triangle, LeBron passed that ball

and run off second guard option. Now you have to stay on LeBron. He just keeps opening it, and then when they adjust, then he scores. When they adjust back, that guy scores. and you put in those positions to do it It's it's to the next man. You help the next man the next man And that's what I meant by he didn't have a system They even get down to the coaches where the coaches will go

Remember Michael first time they gave him the ball and Phil was like my job was give Michael the ball and everybody get out of The way that's why he didn't beat us anymore because we knew he couldn't push Joe Dumas They gave him the ball and Phil was like, my job was give Michael the ball and everybody get out of the way. That's why he didn't beat us anymore because we knew he couldn't push Joe Dumas. He was going to get smacked coming in. We didn't care that the NBA had an agenda for the Messiah. We were the Romans. Crucify him. And that was the mentality.

That's what I think about when I watch the game now. When I watch now, I watch Denver just run out of gas, seriously run out of gas. There was nobody on the squad to kick them in the ass, nothing for them to go, all right, let's go to sequence one. Sequence one and build it back up to sequence. I just don't think that's happening anymore. Let me say this about the lebron thing and so my whole take was lebron's skill set would have been enhanced and we would have been able to

reflectively look at mike kobe and lebron if he's in the triangle because the way mike and kobe trained their skill sets inside of the triangle helped them with the mid-range shot, the fadeaway shot, the elbow iso shot, the top of the key iso shot. All of these different skill sets were enhanced on top of their natural abilities. Mike's natural abilities from the 80s to the 90s, he was just God-gifted with athleticism. He knew how to play. But the triangle helped him structurally understand how to get buckets in a system. Same with Kobe. When he first came in the league, it was just athletic Kobe.

Once he started breaking the offense in the triangle, he started enhancing his skill set. By the second two championships, you've seen a Michael Jordan-type Kobe because he understood the triangle. LeBron has always been isolated on an island without a bag, without being able to break a guy down and do that because he wants to pass first. I don't need a bag, though. So solely on being that guy without that skill set or a system, we can't compare him to the other two. So I said, well, if you put LeBron in the triangle, he automatically is going to enhance his skill set because now he's isolating

his movements. That jump shot that he doesn't have that they're sagging on, he's going to work on that because it's a part of the offense. I got to hit this shot. That pop back from the big, when you're popping back in that small corner, that shot is automatic for Kobe, Mike. They were looking for that option because they practice it. But Bron never had that option in the offense where he's going to practice this over and over and over and over again because I'm going to get these options. That was my thing with Bron. He could have been the best to play the game, but he never was set up for his skill set to enhance. But it sounds like he better than all of them.

What I'm saying is that he What I'm saying is that... He won four without a system. You keep saying that. But that's what I'm... He won four of them without a system. So how good am I without a system? Heelset. What's Heelset?

Not better than them. Okay, but what I'm... But your sound is... 40,000 points and I have a number? Not better than them. That's the thing that's killing me and it seems like it just... It's a contradiction to what is being said.

If Kobe and Jordan had a handicap by a system, they got enhanced by a system, and one has six, one has five, and this guy had to just play rogue basketball and got four, why aren't we giving him the benefit of the doubt right because i did right i got i got killed and that's that's the problem it's like away you take away kobe's three championships because he's playing with shack right no right nobody does no they do they do they say what you know that oh you rose shack and you you i can't give you. But you won two championships with Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade, and you don't get no asterisk beside that, right? So if we're going to talk about.

Who's day? What do you mean who's day? You mean the guys who never played basketball. I'm talking about everybody in any conversation when you talk about Kobe Bryant, five championships, LeBron, four championships, Michael Jordan, six. That's one, two, three. Isn't it? Yeah. Michael Jordan six. That's one, two, three. Isn't it? Six, five, four is one, two, three.

So where's LeBron on the totem pole of if you're considering championships being you're the greatest? Mike has six. He's number one. Kobe has five. He's number two. LeBron has four. He's number three. I think LeBron is better because he didn't have a sister. That's what I'm saying

Like well if he had us I don't even think he'll be good in the triangle That's only if we're considering Championships to be the editor of being the greatest in which I do not say then that means it would have been Bill Russell exactly And we never considered always do it on on championships And I'm glad I have the I have the luck in my life to being granted being on some great teams. But I said if we were going to, because when I watch y'all, I compare LeBron to Magic and I don't compare him to Michael. I compare Kobe to Michael, but I compare LeBron to Magic and Magic 6'10". You played Magic at UCLA?

Y'all ever? You old enough to do that? I called a lot of fouls. I was a little motherfucker. Best thing to do is be on Magic's team. You were not leaving that center court. Everybody say that. I've seen Magic lose one time at UCLA,

and it was on some janky shit he could not call a foul on, but it was still possible. He still tried to figure it out. That's it, though, John. That's said, you said you're comparing the magic. Yeah, I do. Is magic the greatest of all time? I said the greatest play of all time was Magic Larry Bird Johnson. I tell you this.

At the time, I had never seen anybody like magic. I still haven't. I haven't seen anybody literally just take over the game, talk, convince the refs, did you get the money I sent you, you know, all that stuff. I'm just being serious. But I just, I hadn't seen anything like that. But when I saw LeBron, and I was standing, and he was looking me eye to eye,

and I saw him jump, look in the rim, dunk first. How tall are you? 6'11 and two quarters. And, okay, because everyone thinks I'm stupid when I say. So you're 6'11. Yeah. Say that again. Y'all was doing what?

Looking eye to eye. Okay. Yeah, the guy is amazing. So he's not 6'8? No. Okay. And that again. Y'all was doing what? Looking eye to eye. Okay. Yeah, the guy is amazing. So he's not 6'8"? No. Okay. And he's 265 pounds with 4% body fat and was bred. It's like a thoroughbred. He's only bred to run.

You know what I'm saying? It's not a horse you ride around the neighborhood. You put this horse on the track. And I just kept looking at him, and I couldn't believe. I. And I just kept looking at him and I couldn't believe, I did. I just kept looking at him going, whoa. And I thought Carmelo should have been drafted before him. I had to apologize. I apologized on television. I was like, I was wrong. His ass should have been third. You should have been the first pick. I've never seen, I haven't seen anything like it. But a lot of guys, you know, hey, no one saw anything like Oscar Robinson either.

And then they did. Dr. J, they said, had one hand, right? But that one hand was all he needed. Just, I tell you, I think, if you're going to say the greatest player of all time, I'm going to stick with Michael Jordan because he was the nucleus or the beginning of what the NBA has become after 94. The NBA became this brand. But LeBron, man, when he was 17, 18, when he was 19, 20, he was destroying old men. And then when he got to the point of winning the championship, I mean, think about it.

He lost first. He had to deal with that loss. And his ass was right back to winning again and then winning again. I just... I mean, he caught the spurs. Yeah. What I'm saying is he don't get... Like, it's like you have to give someone the benefit of the doubt, right?

It's like... What do they call them when you don't have a record label? Independent. Independent, right? So if the system is the record label and no system is independent, and I'm selling just as many records or more records than you, right? You got five Platinums. He got six Platinums.

I got four Platinums. How are you penalizing me when you have the clear advantage over me? But you're not being penalized. You are. You're not. You're penalizing me. But one, I outdid more numbers than you. Like the man was Magic Johnson 2.0, right?

And I hate when Jordan fans say this. He was a pass first guy. That's a bad take for you because he has a scoring title. So the guy who didn't want to shoot the ball got the most points. That is not a good take for you. You might want to lose that out because the guy who second nature was scoring has the most aggressive set. I think your music take is more right on than anything because you talk about

independent versus majors, right? And the independent don't got the machine behind them. So you're talking about somebody like Master P. Master P sells all of those records, right? But he doesn't qualify for a Grammy. He doesn't get any of those accolades, right? Because he's an independent. And because you're independent,

doesn't mean that you don't get the acknowledgement that you deserve because the numbers are the numbers. You sold $100 million independently. So the metric of your hypothetical is, well, imagine what happens if I have the machine behind me. No, that's what you're hypothetical. We're saying, you're saying if he did have it, he'd do this. We're saying he still has the Emmys and the Grammys. You just got one more than him.

No, the point is, you're saying is, what happens if he does have what Kobe and. The point is, you're saying is, what happens if he does have what Kobe and Mike have? You're saying that. You're saying if he had a system, this is what it would have been. His skills would have been more honed in. Think about an independent guy. An independent guy doesn't have access to

the major label, the engineers, the producers, the singing coaches, all the vocal coaching, all that stuff, right? They're raw talent. It's raw talent, right? So these are the guys, like Drake, Rihanna, Jay-Z,

all these guys mainstream, they're killing it because they've mastered recording artists. You're independent on raw talent. So the hypothetical is, imagine if I had what they had. Okay, but that's the hypothetical. But you're not, but as an independent, you're not better than these guys based on your numbers.

Your raw talent is your raw talent. But that's what we're saying. If you're Drake and you're Hov, and I'm an independent, well, why can't he be Drake? Okay, you can be Drake. No, I'm good. But what I'm saying is if you got six Grammys, you have five Grammys.

I have four Grammys being independent. I've sold more records than you and did all. I might not have the most number ones like you guys but the fact that I have one less than you more sold albums more and I don't have a This is a great This was my not the greatest because you if you got of you guys have the event you're missing I'm the one that's at the disadvantage, but I'm on the same road as y'all. We're missing the point, though.

We're all interchangeable because if you take Kobe and Mike and put them in the independent market like you did LeBron, your sales will go out the blue. We don't know. Whoa. That's a hypothetical. So Michael Jordan, without the triangle. He's going home again. He goes home every time.

But look, he is the NBA's leading scorer in all-time history. He goes past $40,000. Nobody doesn't win a championship. Right. So if the championships don't matter, if LeBron's four and Mike's six, and we're talking about raw talent should give him more, that means that if Mike doesn't get six. No, let's give him more.

But if Mike doesn't get six, but he breaks all give him more. But if Mike doesn't get six, but he breaks all the records that LeBron has broken... Then you would be LeBron. And you would be talking shit about him. And you're trying to say that LeBron is where he's supposed to be. And if Kobe... If Kobe doesn't go into the triangle, he comes in as a raw talent,

never sees the triangle office, the hypothetical is, man, Kobe could be 40,000 points in the league. He could do the same this. You're switching I'm interchanging all of the pieces because LeBron is no different because he's an independent Mm-hmm, and you're trying to say well if he had this no you're saying I'm saying since he doesn't have He's number three still no no since he doesn't have it, that's what makes him so raw

and better to us. Because he didn't have the system. He didn't have it. He didn't have it. You see what I'm saying? Because he didn't have it. If I'm boxing, if I fight Mayweather right now, before this fight,

what should it be? An ass whooping. If I take him all the way to decision, right, who won? Who really won that fight? Are the metrics? If I don't have no purpose, then I don't have no gym. If you don't knock him out, Gil.

It ain't about me knocking him out. You're talking about Floyd. If Floyd takes him 12, and that's all you're winning on is taking him to 12 because boxing is a punch stat. I just got to go in here and win on the numbers and win on the card. But I'm Mike Tyson and I'm knocking these niggas out because this is what they came to see. Fighting, boxing, knockouts. But I'm 50 and 0 because I've never challenged myself to do anything more than win on points.

Ooh. But are you saying? But what is this analogy? What is this analogy? What is this analogy? It's the challenge of your skill set being a skill set not based on how many championships, how many points. It's I'm this good and I can work in any scenario, independent or not. We don't know. You're trying to blend it. Your take was this.

If LeBron James had Michael Jordan and Kobe's triangle, he would have more champions. No, I said his skill set would be enhanced. His skill set would be enhanced. Okay. I believe he would have more. You believe he would have more champions? His skill set would be enhanced. We're saying, well, okay, if you have them three without this beautiful system,

how good is he? That's what I'm saying. If he didn't have that, if he did not have that, it don't matter. You're the one making the analogy. If he had it, he would be better. I would say that analogy.

I would say, well, then, Kobe and Mike without the system wouldn't have a skill. Look just as good as LeBron. But you're not you're not even saying LeBron looks good. You have them in front. LeBron is the one. I'm not saying LeBron looks good. No, no. What we're saying is if you take LeBron and put him in a system and take these guys out, then you will be saying fuck LeBron and fuck Kobe. No, I would not. How you you just saying that I would say that because you think that I don't like LeBron. I'm saying LeBron. I've been watching the show. You just saying that I would say that because you think that I don't like LeBron. I'm saying LeBron.

Well, I've been watching the show. You don't. Okay. Listen, I literally say LeBron's skill set would enhance if he had XYZ. That means if they didn't have it. He likes them. No, what I'm saying. So if you're saying if LeBron had it, he will have these skills.

That means since they have it and you're saying if they didn't have it, you got to take away their skill. I'm not taking it. You have to take away the skill. Bro, I'm saying that the comparables of being the greatest, if Mike is the greatest, and Kobe's a mirror image of the greatest,

the skill set beyond that is based on the fucking system that they were in. So if they're not in the system, they don't have that skill set? No, they don't. Okay. So the raw talent that they both had in the system, they don't have that skill set. No, they don't. Okay. So the raw talent that they both had

before the system would be in place. So the Black Jesus that we've seen before the triangle, you would have to compare that to LeBron right now. Okay.

And then you would say, who's better? Okay, so Black Jesus is by far better than LeBron James. So if Black Jesus did all the scoring and never won a championship

in LeBron, we know what LeBron has. Yeah, without the system. We know what LeBron has without the if Black Jesus did all the scoring and never won a championship in LeBron, we know what LeBron has. Yeah, without the system. We know what LeBron has without the system. So who's the better player? 88, Mike? What I'm saying is... Or 2023 LeBron?

What we're saying is we know what LeBron has without a system. We know what Michael Jordan didn't have without the system. Yeah. Right? Yeah, couldn't get better choice. Now, does he... You know better than anybody. Now, does he have six championships without the triangle? No. Okay.

So, without six championships... Is that a hypothetical? No. I'm guaranteed he wouldn't. Huh? Okay, guaranteed. Is that a hypothetical? No, he guaranteed.

You can't guarantee shit if we can't go back and do it. You can't. Spider-Man guaranteed. We can't go back and do it, right? I just thought about it. I'm glad I'm listening. See, I learned to be a listener as I got older, too. This is the deal. When they

ran the regular offense, our job, I'm going to tell everybody right here on the show because Gil deserves it. My teammates are going to be really pissed off, but I'm going to tell you the Jordan rules. Fuck him up.

No, I'm joking. It looked like it on TV. Don't do that. No, the Jordan rules were this. We knew he was going to put the ball on the ground, right? And everybody saw this, and we said that. Our deal is to push him left. And they said, well, he can't go left.

He can. He's just going to put it in his right hand, but he can go left. And we knew that Joe Dumas was 215, 220 pounds. Michael was 190, 205 or something like that. I don't know. We knew that if we came in big, he was going to try to shoot over us. He was not going to pass it. Right? The difference is LeBron can see over us. LeBron can see. So we knew that we could, we take away their one threat, the rest of the guys didn't have what it took to beat us.

In the triangle, like I said, you get hypnotized because a guy's running to a position, you go, I can't let him stand on the box without me touching him which opens up the other side and and when the ball is rotated and the guy is running off and then you're you're thinking about where's my man to the point where you become selfish on defense and I'm only guarding my guy which made the offense work because then we couldn't double Michael we couldn't push him to where we wanted to because he was catching the ball where he wanted to. That's the difference. And I think that the only way they even beat us the year in 91 is just we were just tired, man. We had been

killing ourselves. So we got to 1991. And then they had the offense. Because I watched the Chicago Bulls play the Lakers in game one, and literally I thought the Lakers were going to beat the Chicago Bulls. That's the way it looked. And they didn't because they shut it down, like I said, went into their mentality of what the offense was going to be and how to run it. And that's why I said the system, because it can always reset you, always reset you. And when you're not in this situation, you got to sit around and go, well, he looks gassed. I got to give him some time.

This guy was playing good in the last whatever. He's finished his divorce. We got rid of the girl who was bothering him. all those different things that came in. And I say that jokingly but not jokingly because I watch your show and you guys are really, really smart and I'm so happy that I'm not the only one that's not a dumb jock. But it's such a good thing that you guys have pushed it to that point and not being just considered a jock. But in that thought process, a lot of

things we leave out is that players are human. And the problems they will have going on, they bring onto the court. For some reason, Phil knew how to get in there, play that drum, let Dennis wander. Michael was making sure his socks was perfectly across from each other. And we knew, we watched so much film, we knew exactly how to run our offense, how to run our offense, running the offense. Last time, they took this away, so we're going to do this. And then when they realize it's happening,

they're going to let it open back up. That's what I mean by a system. We knew we would do something in a triangle, you would adjust, which is why we wanted you to do it, so we can run a different way. And I think now sitting here, listening to you guys just sit around and go over it, I think LeBron may be the best player to have played in the NBA. It may. Has that come out? Did I just say that? Yeah, you said that we converted you

Yeah The reason the verb is you can leave now the black suburb is can leave the reason like the reason Because we played we've been around coaches and we're good we we missed the opportunity that he could have played with phil or pop right yeah and he had to win with mediocre coaches newbie coaches like when people talk about oh he fired his coach i'm sorry that he don't have a resume that he should keep this job. Like, the fact that he even got to coach LeBron, he should just be happy with that. Because majority of these guys, Michael Jordan would have got rid of, too.

Yeah, Michael didn't. And I don't really think Kobe would have definitely got rid of, too. Yeah. But Michael, this was another thing great about MJ. Michael only wanted to play basketball. Everybody else wants to do the politics. And that politics, it can really get you into something. Because they went like, when I got to get on team, they were like, well, you know, we got to talk to the players.

I said, which ones? He said, MJ. I said, that's my frat brother. I'm Omega Psi Phi Incorporated. I mean, I want number 22. I was ordering stuff before they even had the conversation. So I don't really think... I just think now too many people have too much to say, but I would listen.

If I was the Lakers, I've been thinking about this so much, would I listen to a player? I would listen. I would listen to what he has to say because he's so smart. But I also would say, okay, we can do that, but we're going to change a couple of things. I would go in to change it because I explained to my boy who was thinking J.J. Redick shouldn't be the coach. I said, do you know how many players played at Duke? Yeah. I said, how many got that number retired? This dude is brilliant. This dude would be a great coach. I think you'd be a great coach. I think you'd have a heart attack. Yeah, you'd have a heart attack, definitely.

He'd be sweating. Dying on the job. And you're not allowed to smack players. Have you seen how strong they look now? Yeah. Yeah. My whole staff is going to be the bad boys. Rick Mahone, let's go. Let's go. So a question for you. You won championships with MJ and Kobe. How are they similar and how are they different as hoopers?

The difference was when you're on Chicago, I was with the Beatles. I was with Elvis. I was with Michael Jackson. And I was with Elvis I was with Michael Jackson and I was with the Pope so and you guys are so I guess spoiled but lucky dog

when I got on the bulls and we were staying at the plaza in New York everybody was like we were going to dinner I said I'm not leaving my room are you kidding me you know how long

it take me to get to the plaza now you guys you guys take it for granted, but it was crazy that we had a plane that had a bar in the middle of it. We had the OMGM plane. We had security that was Michael Jordan's security

used to fly on his jet, land and meet our jet. Three buses. Man, if you missed the bus, you was getting fined and might our jet. Three buses. Man, if you missed the bus, you was getting fined and might not play. So I couldn't even imagine them giving you a series

of going to it. Now, being with Kobe, it was different because I got to go to dinner with him. We go to TGI Fridays. There's nobody really going, oh, Kobe, Kobe, Kobe, because he was only 19, 20.

But then he grew into that, what he became. By the time I got to Michael, Michael was already your highness. The difference is Michael is tied, and Kobe is tied evergreen. It's not that much different.

The Lakers were way cheaper than the Bulls, which is almost impossible. Like the Bulls had three massage therapists, a swimming pool to train in, four trainers, strength coach. Wait, in the 90s? Hold the fuck up. In the 90s, yeah. The 90s. We never heard that.

Wait, wait, wait. Old dog. Fuck that. Yeah. They fired the massage therapist I brought into the Lakers. He came to me and was like, man, they don't have me here.

And I was like, I kept saying, I said to Phil, I said, I'm going to say it again, Formula One cars or stock NASCARs. And he kept saying, what do you mean? I go, when you finish a Formula One car, you break it down to the last bolt. And if that bolt has anything wrong with it, you get another bolt. The car is going to be put together again next week. Stock cars, you go, oh, man, change the tire. You don't have guys here being tuned up. You don't have them being, like, making them get

massaged, making them talk to the nutritionist, making them eat certain ways. If you bought, what I heard, if you bought fast food in the locker room, oh, my God, that would have been thrown against the wall. Like, you had better food. They knew they were feeding you to win.

Everywhere else, man, I remember I was on a squad, I won't say the name, Miami Heat. That's like when Kanye said, you know I can't say. Literally, guys are bringing dollar food on the plane. Bringing dollar food on the plane and Bringing dollar food on the plane.

And you just got a $12 million contract. That was a lot then. You just got that because you're eating dollar food. And I didn't get that. And when I got to Chicago, it was like gourmet. When we got into the plaza, we pulled in the back of the plaza, girl. I didn't even know there was a back of the plaza. And I'm from New York.

I never even saw this street. We pulled in, and there was people holding stuff. And, you know, I'm an NBA player, so I start grabbing. You know, filling up the bag, you know, giving her drinks. You know, she ain't ordering no drinks. I got them right here. So, you know, you throw it in the bag. Man, they were like, everybody got it.. I got him right here. So, you know, you told him bad man They were like everybody got it and I was like wow

It was completely Treat you like like your royalty and your play like you wrote and that was in the night that we didn't make that 96 I didn't get my first meal from the road team into LeBron James in Cleveland. What? When the road team fed the first time was like I'm thinking the coach was hatting, was hatting. I was like damn coach, appreciate it.

He was like this ain't from us. Cleveland sent that. It was like Clayton Clark, right? She changed. I'm like yo, young fella got it. Like God damn. Yeah, Dallas was doing that? Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.

It was it was Clippers had what were they practicing at the Elk the wine girl YMCA at one point? Yeah, that was in 2005 six seven. So the fact that y'all had this type of Yeah, we didn't have a we didn't have a chef in Washington until like 2005 six Like food like like breakfast food? Oh, my God. We didn't eat until lunch, and that was damn near Boston Market.

Then the chefs came in like 2005-6. It's only Boston Market. Yeah. In Detroit, we had Dot Nellis, and we got on the plane with Catfish and Chuck Daly. We were like, never again will you bring in that stinky shit on the plane. We had shrimp and all kinds of shit. And it got to a point where we said, okay, we're going to have better food. And when we started getting treated better, it was funny, man. It was not hard to win 63, 65 games.

You only got to think about basketball. You only had to think. Like MJ only had to. And we smoked cigars on the bus. Oh, I forgot your cigars I got a guy's got on the bus. I don't think they could do that. MJ was smoking on the plane And don't say nothing to me. Yeah, your ass won't be my guy. I'm not back in the better. We like that Yeah, two dollars. Now. Yeah, we're gonna tell me 2003. He was on the plane smoking, the lady was like, hey, you can't smoke here. It's your last flight.

Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, damn, y'all was, damn. On the bus? Going to the games? No, coming from the game. Like, after the game, for sure. And then we would pop it. Yeah, it was, we were treated like adults.

To the point where I went to Greece the next year, the next summer, and they, in Greece, they line, like, the players up here and the coaches up there, and the coaches, you know, they're European, they were smoking cigarettes. And so I reached and pulled out a cigar, and they were like, psst, you can't smoke in front of the players. I'm like, motherfucker, you are a table away.

And I'm grown, I got children. You can't tell me when I can and how I cannot smoke. And kids, don't smoke. It's not good for you unless it's Freud cigars or Deuces 22 weed. Did I just... Did I just do that? Did I just do that? Where's the Deuces 22?

I can tell you this right now, and this goes for anybody in the 2000s. I would have bust their ass. I'm sorry. You're not going to be able to smoke cigars after every game and then you're about to car me. Well, remember, we were talking. You think you're about to hit some motherfucking alcohol and then think you're not about to get this work?

Hey, I said the same thing, bro. I was a rookie. And I'm thinking, oh, I play well in Boston. And Parrish beat me up court, beat me up court again. I was like, man, Chantel, you hanging out too much last night? I go, no, I didn't know he was that fast. I thought I could jog. I didn't know he was, he was like, pay attention.

And, you know, Parr Paris beat me up and down. He's doing all this stuff, and I'm wanting to block shots. I'm like, oh, they got me. And so I'm in the hotel, and I'm just walking around because there's nothing to do. They tell us we can't go out in Boston. And so I'm old enough, I go by the bar, and Paris sitting there with a cigarette and a scotch like this. And I was like, you smoke cigarettes and drink scotch? He said, you got to learn to pace yourself, young fella.

God, pace yourself. Pace yourself, young fella. I was like, yeah. So, yeah. You know they used to smoke in the halftime, too. Pat Riley. Remember they talk about Vlade Divac? Yeah, well can have the hitters. Yeah smoking doesn't do anything to you. It's just it's a nervous thing Hmm that this at all. These are the stories man that just this this

Generation misses and I've talked to you know, Rick Mahoney and the big three and you know, dr J and some of the things they say, I'm like, y'all sitting on a fucking gold mine. Yeah. 80s, probably like 94 to the 70s, that's all gold mine material. Because it's an era that no one knows. These people are like, smoking in a cigarette. Smoking.

Isn't it? Yeah. Y'all doing cocaine? They can't even imagine it. Era that no one knows these people like smoking in a cigarette smoking Yeah, yeah, I was doing cocaine like they can't even imagine it. So here in a so when your dad was telling stories You sit there like yeah, do we used to fly commercial? So the prettiest girls or the girls that's in the fishbowl now, let me explain that. Uh-huh Let me explain first all the work. Huh? We call them the word work all the work the work yeah oh my god you know like second chairs when you tell you that's my secretary that's my work the girls that were working the league working the league I remember I said this guy to a rookie I was in 2000,

I said, hey man, we're going to go in, you got 20 minutes, pick what you need to pick when we still had limousines. There's going to be a limo outside

and we bounce. He was like, 20 minutes, Sal. I was like, yeah, trust me. They're not here to dance. They're here because they know we're coming.

Let's go, right? And they didn't believe me until I would walk in the club and say, who's fucking? And the girls went, and they was in the cars. And they were like, man, it's that easy. Imagine when we flew commercial, we had to stay the night. So every game was three days. So there was, the Detroit Pistons ended all that because we got a private jet.

So it ended babies, drug use, fights. Oh, it ended all of that? It ended all, because after, we would get there the night before and Chuck was smart, we would leave at 5.30. We'd get there at 7 o'clock, he was rushing just to get to eat. And then we would play and then we'd be on the flight back home. That ended all

that other stuff which got us to rest in homes, got guys that have their marriages longer. When I first got in the NBA, everybody had to fly through Detroit. It'd be times you see teams. back then, we weren't no friends. So it's like gang members. You watching them and whatnot, and then you ask your trainer who they playing, because

you're not supposed to pay attention. But the flight attendants was who guys were rapping to. And those flight attendants, as in today, they can fly without you paying for it, and they can get their own hotels. It's a different fight. It was the flight attendants. It was what y'all call the work. I say what was fed in the fishbowl.

And it's the same girls, and it's the same situation, and it's the same rolling. So when I went to write a book, I was doing it with a great writer, and, you know, I make the stories funny because they're funny to me. And I make the stories funny and then they wanted serious stuff and I was like, nah, I want to be able to walk in arenas at least once or twice. And I'm not telling you any Isaiah Thomas stories because the Arna and he went to sleep at eight o'clock every night

with milk and cookies Not hang out he'd be like I can't man I gotta go to sleep I was like what Here what so you're here? What? So, okay, so when y'all played, like, let's say you played a night back then, you stayed over? Pick a team. So we're flying in Detroit, which is the middle of the country. So we're going. Before the flight, before private, you had to stay. So after the game, you stayed.

We left the next morning. Yeah. So. I'm thinking this is great. We go to Sacramento and Dennis finally meets somebody that he loves dearly. He just met her. And we're here for a reason, not a season. So we had to get up. It is like seven o'clock because our flight is at 9.30 in the morning. And we were like rushing to get to the bus. But we literally got there, beat Sacramento, and then we get to the club.

And the club is off the chain in Sacramento. And the Sacramento Kings are there. They just got their ass beat by us They beat us to the club. So I was like, oh this is the greatest thing in the world Only time it really wasn't great was in Chicago because we go to Chicago and Isaiah was the man in Chicago Well that Chicago makes me nervous to this day Dudes are looking at us like this like we're in a club and I was like what what's up?

He said with Pistons, you know, we beat the Bulls and they love Michael Jordan I go we just gonna let them stare at us like that. Isaiah was like I'm from Southside That whole crew on that side is with me. I was like, oh Yeah, it's time for me to go to So we've stayed a night, man. And it's bad business, too. Because you know it's the same work. That's what you guys call it.

Ooh, it sounds good. That sounds good when the O.A. says it's the same work. Pre-owned work. You were there the night before, so that means she know you stand. You got to stay with her again. Let the work work, man. But this is a teaching moment, just period. One little entity stopped a lot of shit.

Yeah. Private jet so the other team can get out of this, stop fighting, marriages, drug use. Yeah. It didn't stop the work. No, but it stopped the work from you two fighting over there working the club. She just went to work somewhere else. She went to work. No, but it stopped the work from you two fighting over that work in the club. She just went to work somewhere else. She went to work somewhere else.

Because probably that's what they were fighting over. The girl that one of them probably brought in, she probably messed with one of them and they fighting in the club about it. Yeah, it was a trick because when I got into Lakers, you know, I liked my wife at that time. I liked my wife. I liked my wife. I liked my wife.

I like, he got isms. He does. He got too big. I like, I like my wife. Yeah, because you know, you guys may not be married, but you get to a point where she don't like you, you don't like her. And it was year seven, you know, usually after the year things go wrong. But I liked her.

I still like her. I've been 30 years now. And, and I love her. But it's important, more important to like somebody because been 30 years now. And I love her, but it's important, more important to like somebody, because you can love anything, but when you like something, you ain't gonna. So I liked her and I loved her.

And that's so shitty. And so there was one girl, I'ma just tell a story, I don't care if she hears it. There was one girl that was left out. I don't know how she was left out. She was the baddest of the white girls. I'm joking. This is how I do jokes.

This is how I do jokes. Workshopping the world. I like it. I know it's a good joke. Karen involved. Karen involved. And so I say, you know, everybody had chosen. And so I say, okay, I'm the OG.

Hey, you roll with me. She comes to the room. She was, you know, I had chosen. And so I said, okay, I'm the OG. Here, you can roll with me. And she comes to the room, and she was, you know, I got incense burning, conversations with God right there. You got fucking Buddha music on. She was like, what's up? I was like, oh, yeah, I'm practicing Buddhist. And she was like, oh, we going to fuck? I was like, let me get you a cat.

Just like that. And she was like, what? I said, let me get you a cat. So I, being a gentleman, like, what? I said, let me get you a cat. So I, being a gentleman, I walk her down. It's a true story. I walk her downstairs and the security lady goes, oh, hey John, how you doing? She goes, what you doing here? She goes, mind your business. She goes,

Mr. Sal, I know you're not. I said, no, I'm just walking her to her cat because she's been here three times this week. Damn. Damn. Mom work right there. It was, I wish I could have filmed it. She been here three times this week. Damn. Damn. Ooh. Fun work right there. It was, I wish I could have filmed it,

but I was happy I had a witness walking up to, and I didn't, because think about the girls who are now just... Making claims. Oh, not making claims, telling you stories. Mm-hmm. I saw that girl on Tasha K, and I saw Gil and Swaggy talking about it,

like, you guys be naming names. And I was like, oh, my God. I would have to. Yes, that was a separate program. Should they do that to us? I'll say they do that to us in their group chats. Hey, look, I put it like this. If I pay, I can say.

Oh! If I pay, I can save. Oh! If I pay, I can save. This is my money. You know what I mean? This is my money. I should be able to. Once you took my dollar, I'll use it at my discretion. You're the one who's handicapped.

I have not heard anything bad about you. Yeah, that's a lie. Me? No. None of you. This is why I ask. I ask them when the clock came in, I go, who's on the couch? You, I've been hearing a lot about those Samoan girls with one eye.

No, I'm just kidding. What? See, see. What? I bet you. What? I bet you. See, see.

What? You got the wrong one. No, I'm messing with you. I'm not. See, I got the no chill. See, I got the no chill. They got to think I'm crazy. I know.

See, that. I do. I sit there and I go, hey. My See, I got the no chill. They got to think I'm crazy. I know. See, I do. I sit there and I go, hey, my cousin Michael Odom. I go, did you? I got to send you this. He goes, I watched it. See, they think I'm wild in them streets. I got to use that. It's a sales.

You're brilliant. I be in the house like a motherfucker. If you see me in public, god damn it. You see Gil in public. No, man. Like, damn. He in and out. The no-chill Maybach.

Yeah. If you see the no-chill Maybach. I like it. The vanity plate. This is so nice, man. Like, I always wanted to come to this part of Beverly Hills. You live like two doors from Denzel.

I'm a wall right. Denzel's house. Eddie Murphy's right up the street. Barry Barnes was over here. This is real. Security guard literally frisked me three times, though. Oh, you're an old white guy, right? Yeah.

No, a white chick. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. He enjoyed it. I kept saying you. It was a man. That wasn't no guy. It was a man.

It was an awesome man. It was a man. You got to watch yourself now. He looked good, but hey, he don't feel good. I got a question. I got a question that's going to ruin your show. Uh-oh.

We have... Every week. This is a crazy question because I saw it and I thought, I said, I got to bring this up on Gil's show. So my man Pauly sure said he had sex with a trans sex. Can we talk that on this? Whatever you use we got I mean, we don't know it. We don't know

We don't know the story but we're live so I asked you I asked y'all, you know, over here, man, I just, I always wanted to know what it was like to be up in a house next to Denzel Washington. This house is almost the same size. This is amazing. It is luxuriously balling.

So we got to talk, obviously, new Bad Boys movie coming out. You've had an extensive acting career. More to come. What was that experience like with Martin and Will in the first Bad Boys movie coming out. You've had an extensive acting career. More to come. What was that experience like with Martin and Will and the first Bad Boys playing the character Fletcher with them thick-ass glasses? Well, at first, this is why I love Gil so much. I tell him, I was as vocal as he was and not as articulate sometimes, but close.

And so I would say things and they would get mad and they would chill, but when I got in the movie, I started realizing how fast it was happening that after it happened, I got Eddie. And then I thought, shit, I just did Bad Boys. Y'all should pay me 100,000. They were like, favorite nations. You're getting the same as everybody else. But then I wanted to be an actor. So then once I got into it and started taking the classes,

because I think it's important. Like Terry Crews asked me when he first was starting, what are the only advice to do? I said, take your classes. Like, get rid of your ego. Like, literally be the part, be the character mentality. Then when I didn't get Bad Boys 3, you know, I saw where they were going, and I kind of bitched about it. And, you know, I'm always bitching at Will or something. I'm like, I can't believe that. He didn't put me in. But this one, I got to be at the table read.

I got to see other sets. I got to talk to Jerry Buckheimer in the morning. You know, how you doing, sir? Can I get you coffee? It was, and I'm telling you, I think it's the funniest one. And it's the funniest one because Will and Martin are like one and two. It is literally they play off each other. And if it worked, they kept it.

It wasn't so strict. They were like, hey, write this in. This will go right here. How many seconds we got? And so I got to watch, and I got to watch my friend Will be free. I don't know if the slap made him free, but aware of everything. No, what I mean by that is y'all realize how restricted he had to be. That's why everybody was so upset because they wanted what they wanted as opposed to him being free.

And I think he's not happy that he did that, but I think it freed my friend till he was aware of everything around them And now he can just make movies cuz you want to not because you got to get an Oscar not because you have to Be anything else. It was a release. Yeah, that's that's crazy because that's that's pretty much how a lot of successful people are their success Handicaps them. Yeah being who they are right and sometimes like when something happens even though it's is hurting them in real time they're like oh yeah yeah i can see better now actually finally because here i was so looking at this lane that now that i'm out of it i get to see the world better yeah that happened when I left the NBA. I was like, man, I wish I could go back.

Right? But it's too late. But when you get away and you look at something, your POV is different. I mean, I took three years off. When I came back, I knew how to train. I knew everything. I knew how things were going. But then, you know, Phil didn't want

to give me another year. And I don't know if I could have coached. Man, I might need to slap somebody to get my groove back. Yo, how was it? Just as long as they don't slap me back. Got a bob and weave. I'm getting the groove. They're getting the groove slapping me back.

Yo, how was it being at Eddie? Eddie was dope. I just saw a picture of Malik Sealy's ex-wife, Malik Sealy's widow, put a picture up. It was just, we had Mark Jackson. Real players. We had real players and the players were coming in, but Whoopi Goldberg, if any star I've ever been around, is this star of all stars She is she is the best person you can ever

Ever do a movie with things she wanted to explain it wasn't like dadada get your lines, right? It was like, okay think about it this way and then okay get it and I my whole thing was memorization So I learned this from Will. Know the whole script. Yes. So when you're saying your lines, Will is saying your lines. They used to do that on Fresh Prince early on. Yeah.

And I took that on. I know what you're going to say. And then I know how to answer back to that point. It's the timing. I'm going to get y'all to be in a movie pretty soon. Please. I can't wait. Presented by Underdog Fantasy.

Well, John, we could do this all day and we appreciate you pulling up But yeah, we do got a schedule to keep so we're gonna move on to mostly fans If you enjoyed this show Go ahead download the underdog fantasy app use promo code Gil you can receive up to two hundred fifty dollars and bonus cash in a special Pick up Damn, we could do that all day. We got to bring you back on here. Mostly fans. Yeah.

Who thought of that? One of them freaks in the back. One of them freaks in the glass. Not only mostly. That's dope. Mostly fans. Mostly. We don't want all y'all. So the question is from Andy C3.

Who has more dogs on their team, the Timberwolves or Mavericks? Timberwolves. Timberwolves. They got the top dog right now, I would imagine. Top young pit bull. You said most? Yeah, who's got more dogs on their team? Dallas.

Ooh. Luca, Kyrie, PJ Washington PJ Washington that's three coming off the bench that's they still adopt I'm okay so name three the Timberwolves do have big purr please don't say Rudy Daniels and Conley counties a dog yeah yeah dog? Yeah, yeah. Okay, hold on, hold on. What is the definition? Right, of dog. Yeah, yeah, remember, dog, this generation, dog is more of a defender type of player, right? Someone who just, wow, wow, get after this. So Luka wouldn't be considered a dog. He's a dog because of the way he'd be killing. That's a dog to me. You know what I mean? I wasn't thinking that.

Like the Detroit Pistons, all of them would have been dogs. So it's more of the defensive type. He knows what a dog is. I mean, a dog, he has a dog on his fucking chest. And a dog knows exactly what a dog is. But using it differently.

So Luka's not a dog. Those are two biggest dogs in that series. It wouldn't be them. It wouldn't. Is Kyrie the dog on defense? See, I told you it's not a dog. Those are two biggest dogs in that series. It wouldn't be them. Is Kyrie's a dog on defense? See, I told you it's a defensive thing. Right away, is he a dog on defense? I don't like the question.

The question should be that. You said got that dog. If they said got that dog, how many killers is on there? You have been questioned by the feds before I could see. I don't like the question. My dog is not here yet. Yeah, so it's more defense and two-way player type of guy.

Yeah. Like Jimmy's a dog. Okay. You know what I mean? It's that sort of thing. So more two-way, right? They don't have to be just strictly defense, but both sides. I thought it was defense.

Okay. That's what it used to be. I feel like the younger generation is now mutated. Yeah. Who got that dog? Who got that dog? Yeah, who got that dog? They were terrible got that dog like yeah, we got that dog They were terrible. I know the guy who was lazy. He's just a dog ass player

Like back when I came in it was a dog. He's a dog. Oh, he's dogging it. Yeah That was it is change. Yeah I think it's where you live. I think it's like he's in the valley. So they probably was like dog ass player like oh when you play a certain place like the dog is a man that niggas a dog right there he gets after it so Gil would know nothing about that because he's from the valley they consider him a dog from our side like Gil was a dog he'd pick up he go after it he gonna get buckets he's a. Yeah, I'm saying but from his perspective. He was like I ain't no fucking dog We asked the chat who has more dogs 72% said the Timberwolves

We appreciate you pulling up you're walking back anytime. We keep it. We could have did about three four five six seven eight hours Plug whatever you need to plug right now. I, God, I want to hear some of that. The TFU podcast, whatever else you got going down. I saw you have my Porsche outside. At 9-11? Yeah. Who's with that? I'm going to take it.

She up there. I thought you were raising your hand. I thought you wanted to give me that. No, I'm taking it. I'm taking it. So we appreciate all y'all rocking. Yeah, I got something. Just want to shout out to my niece, graduated'all rocking. Yeah, I got something.

Just want to shout out to my niece, graduated high school today. Okay. Oh, it's a shout out time. Oh, check out my podcast. All right, y'all. DFU. You can figure it out. Check it out with me, Josh, AD, and Alejandro. We're trying to get to you guys' level.

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I just stole your whole idea of using the downstairs, but you know, I like it. I like I like keeping it light. I like it. And congratulations on you getting married pretty soon, I hear. Oh. You see how he dresses? You see how he dresses? You see how he dresses?

You see how he dresses? Yeah. All the way to the top. You, she's all the way through the top. You're wearing her bracelets, not her ring. Bracelets! I get it. I get it. What?

The bracelets! You're wearing the bracelets. You don't have to take this off, though. You went back to the motherland. I'm so proud of you. I got a girl over here like, hell yeah. Like, wait, hold on. Wait, relax.

I'm just trying to get some contact. I know. Well, that's what we do on this show is our sweat over there. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's what we're like, wait a minute. Don't put that up there. I know. I know. I know. I to get some content. Well, that's what we do on this show. The boys are sweating over there.

They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. They're like, wait a minute. Don't put that out there on me. So make sure y'all stick around for an all-new episode of Sheet and Tyler coming up next. But this has been Gil Zarina presented by Underdog Fantasy. We'll see y'all tomorrow.