Gil's Arena - Kawhi Leonard Can't Carry The Clippers

Episode Date: March 22, 2023

Kawhi Leonard Can't Carry The Clippers after the Paul George Injury. Gilbert Arenas Discusses the bleak future for the Los Angeles Clippers and other NBA Storylines. GIl's Arena is NOW LIVE. Every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Brought to you by Underdog Fantasy: Sign up here for a deposit match up to $100 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Learn more at visa.ca slash fintech. Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! It's like the Arsenio Hall show, but our version of it, because we ain't paying no royalties. I'm back with the living legend, Gilbert Arenas. What's happening? We got Rashad McKenzie in the building.

Ha, that my, my, hey, I still got the crown. Don't be playing. You're not putting it on? I just got to show my pretty face today. Okay, okay. Okay, got to show the lineup. I'm single, I'm single, man. I'm trying to get some mingling going on.

I got to see my whole face today. So we got a bunch of basketball to talk about on this show. And we got the smoke. Interruption. Don't forget the smoke. It was a widescreen. I don't know if it was a widescreen, but I just thought it was a widescreen. No, we was on that brief shot.

Okay, all right. Okay. Maybe I got it right. We're going to talk basketball. But first, we got to talk about some of the biggest news that hit the internet yesterday. Tekashi 6'9", got jumped at the LA Fitness, South Florida. Bam. What'd you think about that situation?

Lord, Lord, Lord, help him. Listen, listen, listen. I'm in the middle. I'm in the middle. He was talking shit, right, the whole time. But my thing is always with this when it comes to snitching. The people who got snitched on, the people who are involved in this whole thing, which would be the Treyway and him, that's who should be dealing with this. Regular ass civilians, what the fuck is y'all doing?

This is not your snitch beat. No, this is not your snitch beat. I'm just trying to figure out how to get into somebody's shit, it's between him and Trey, wait, that's it motherfucking grandma's at the grocery store, come on man, god damn I mean, I got to speak from experience as a snitch

myself I've been a snitch too but I wish one of you motherfuckers would have run up on me and tried to do some shit. There'd be some consequences and repercussions up in there. No, but I mean, I get it. Like you say, it ain't they beef. Like if it was a beef between anybody, it should be Trey Way and 6ix9ine or they sending people to him.

But if you were civilian, the clap back for that is going to be different because now he's like, all right, I got to really protect myself. And if one of you civilians come up to me next time, it ain't going to be... It just makes it a weird place where you're in the grocery store and anyone can come up to you that has no this is not ops

Like I can say this was I like rappers who were sitting there celebrating y'all didn't do this That wasn't y'all. It was just some Dude in the gym that was like, oh I got for my friends. Let's catch him in the bathroom He doesn't seem like a tall enough dude to get jumped like I said one on one One like that's what I'm saying. You feel bad to the face. Like, you feel bad. You feel bad because, one, he's 26 and the dude is 30, 40, weightlifter, obviously.

Obviously, this is somebody who's sitting on the weights, chilling, and like, oh, yeah, we can catch him. Let's go get viral. Let's go get him. Like, I hope, this is what I hope I Hope the surveillance camera comes out The feds put 10 years on their head. Yeah, 20 years on a cameraman Guarantee you they all snitch. Oh done. Here's his address. Y'all see how fast

motherfucker turned in. He don't get off work till about 4.30 so you can be at his crib at 4.50. He gonna be there. Listen, I always had a problem with this part of the snitch world. They turned on him first. They robbed him, right?

They messing with his girl. Still not know, I mean, you still ain't snitching. Well, when you're giving, I'm giving you 40 years for their crime. Oh, hell no. Like, 40, you giving me their time? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. I'm just kidding.

After they deal with it. But that's what I'm saying. People don't understand this part. The main dude pleaded for 13 years. And they want to give you 50 years for his. No. Come on, man. Call on me.

Call on me. I got to ask. I got something to say. Him and both them. One and two. One and two. One and two. I know where they live. Both them. One and two. One and two. One and two. I know where they live.

Yeah, it'd be crazy. Like, you're giving me 40-something years for somebody else's crime? No. No. Now, there's some people that think that that video is fake. It's another Jussie Smollett situation. Nah, that's real or fake? Hey.

Listen, that kick and that rib. Yeah. Oh, I thought he was stomping gophers. Boom! Like, oh my no. I didn't know it was him on the ground at first. I was like, oh, that's 69. Nah, you can see he was rolling over like, that's probably the worst part though, the

LA Fitness. Sprayed Roach. You know how you spray Roach and it be on his back? That's how he was. He hit him in his rib, man. See, they was doing all of that for the rappers that just not, you know, brave enough to do this shit for them. Like, you know, the Meeks and all of them. They got the civilian winning it.

I'm pretty sure if this was a rapper, like this was, you know, them Chicago boys he been messing with the whole time, it wouldn't be no nothing. Everybody be cool. But the fact that's a regular civilian jumping his nose in it, I hope he pressed charges and something just to keep the rest of the public from trying to... Because now, he can't trust anybody to go do a concert. I wouldn't trust nobody. No. Ain't no more, ain't no more autographs, ain't no more nothing.

It's almost like comedians, how they act now that Chris Rock got his ass slapped on stage. You gotta watch your goddamn jokes. Yeah. Hey, motherfucker go up there and smack the shit out you now. Now imagine that. Now imagine someone just running up on stage slapping Chris Rock for something he said about Will Smith.

Just a random ass person. I see what you said about Hold on man. What did you get involved? You need to be like you just get the home gym you can get that workout at the crib You don't gotta worry about all that cuz la fitness already a little shaky. I mean it goes down to la fitness anyway Dude, la fit. Come on. You got the la fitness man In Florida, I can you make it make sense. There's like me getting my ass beat at the Dave and Buster's Give me for some shit ideas. Hey, I heard about what you said about Doc Rivers You said something about in be not being MVP. Let me whoop your ass. Oh Relax six or seven wants to smoke. I know is used to I think we meet it. We got that figured out man

That's why we got a you know, we got to act accordingly man. You got to be ready for you know Everything that comes your way. Okay, that's why getting in the weight room is official when you doing certain shit, so We not playing around at all bullshit when I first seen him right Just walking around just with his water. Just like, ah, bro. I want the smoke. I want the smoke, baby. I'm over here looking at my muscle like, I ain't doing enough. 6'9".

We understand, man. You just ain't in the gym long enough. You got to get your muscles right. So the motherfucker's turning the corner. You ready for action. All right, well, let's switch it back to basketball. That's why we're here. That's why Underdog pays these bills.

And we got to talk about. Underdog, roof, roof. I just. That was kind of my thing, Gil. I'm just sorry. It's your show. You can do what you want. You can do what you want.

I've really been perfecting that, though, over these past few months. But got to talk about Paul George and the Clippers, right? You know, a scary moment for Paul George last night against the Thunder late in the fourth quarter he landed awkwardly on his right leg had to be carried back to the locker room left the game on a cart with his right leg extended now according to Shams there's real concern that it's a serious injury and this is a you know if it is a serious injury this would be a big loss for the Clippers right PG has been vital for them this season. They're 32-24 when he plays.

They're only 6-11 without him. So I just want to know, what was your reaction to that Paul George injury? To be honest, I didn't see it. And I don't want to see it. Because I got injured, I really hate watching injuries, man. The last real injury I seen was Sean Lemington, and I was like, I'm done. When shit like that happens, I want to know parts of watching it. It just seems like it's bad karma.

But I do remember that random-ass 360. Like, what was going through that man's mind? In the game? You didn't see that Oh back door and just randomly just 360 just boom like Yo, and then got hurt. Yeah, this is later on later in the game, but but that that 360 I'm like Man, what was what do your mind? I was different. That was it was different. That was him wanting to be the star of the team It was different. It was different. I want to be the star again. That was some Vince sanity.

Just, just, just creativity. Just random for no reason. Just, I seen the injury, man. And it didn't, like you say, I don't like looking at that shit. Like shit is nasty. Cause you start putting yourself in that element. Like, ugh, I don't want to drive in there.

I might have that. And it's unfortunate cause this is like his second one, kind of like the same. And hopefully it don't take him out too much, but the Clippers are going to hurt from this one. They're going to hurt, you know. So that brings me to my next question. How far can the Clippers go without PG?

It's not a zero to 100, but it's zero. Westbrook got to step up! That's 0! That's 0. Westbrook! Is it do or die for you? In the business! Do or die for Westbrook on this one?

Yes, sir! Westbrook about to come on triple, double, triple, double time. He has to be aggressive now. But what about hitting the side of the backboard? We got to get rid of that. I don't care about none of that. That's a bucket. Huh? He going to get rid of that. I don't care about none of that. That's a bucket. Huh? It's a bucket. He's going to get buckets now.

He's got to. But by themselves, I mean, listen, they're the Clippers. You know, I always say that. I know. So I don't have no faith in them anyway because it's the Clippers. At 100% for a champion. For me to, like, really, like, believe in the Clippers, they're going to have to change their name,

you know, and the colors. To the Clippers, go all blue? Mm-mm. Nah. You're not rolling? Just go ahead and get the fuck on out of L.A., go down to like close to Mexico somewhere. I don't give a fuck where you're going. Just stay out of here. New Mexico.

Change your colors. To New Mexico. Damn. I mean, there was talk before when Ballmer took the team over, potentially moving them out to Seattle. Obviously, they got the new arena in Inglewood coming into a dome in 2024. So it looks like they're going to be here for a long time. Change your colors,

change your name, and then get that spirit off you. Yeah, I agree. That flipper spirit. Shelly Sterling, dog, I maintain. So you got rid of Donald Sterling, but Shelly I think still gets tickets, still gets to linger. It's that Sterling stench. Until they get rid of Donald Sterling, but Shelly I think still gets tickets still gets to linger It's that Sterling stench until they get rid of that. Don't matter what happens. They're gonna be cursed shit She was worse than him. She was she didn't see shit cuz she was doing shit. Oh, I'll just say that

Like Donald Sterling this that whatever like she knew what was going on and she was doing a lot of that shit, too You got the inside scoop my pop played for the Clippers. You mean she was playing for the Manchester? No. No invite. No? No, I'm her. Who?

Shelly? Yeah. No, she's not getting in. She's not getting in? Oh, when you said dirt, I was thinking. I was thinking what a dirt. What a dirt. The bad shit.

I was thinking swinging, banging, charging. No. For sure. I'm trying to figure. You said it. Because you know he had side girls. Yeah. I'm not talking about his activities and getting it all in. I'm talking about the other stuff that he was known for, the janky shady shit that was

going on throughout LA. Oh, okay. Like slum lording? The slum lording, discriminations, Black History Month in March. March 2nd, Black History Month celebration. Shit. So we've got to talk about, in prayers to PG, hopefully he'll be back out there soon. You never want to see a guy get hurt like that, even hearing y'all talk about it.

Because it's the same way. Once you see it and you know it's nasty, show me the first replay just so we can see what happened. After that we don't need to talk about it anymore. We know what's nasty. Show me the first replay just so we can see what happened. After that, we don't need to talk about it anymore. We know what it is. But we would talk about this Clippers-Kawaii PG experiment. Hasn't lived up to the hype since it was first announced in 2019. Now, injuries have played a major role, like we just said.

But let's go through year by year. 2020, blew a 3-1 lead in the bubble to the Nuggets. 2021, they made the Western Conference Finals without Kawhi. 2022, lost to the Timberwolves and the Pelicans in the play-in that was without PG. So, both Kawhi and PG are free agents next summer. If you're the Clippers, do you keep rolling with this dynamic duo,

or do you try to shake some things up? I mean, at the end of the day, the reason it hasn't been successful is mostly because Kawhi. Yes. He actually hasn't been there, you know, that sturdy man that was in, you know, Spurs. So that's the only person I'm really paying attention to when free agency comes. Like, you know, is he going to be a guy that I can rely on with this new four or five year contract? When you brought him in, you were thinking, you know, Western Conference finals, maybe a championship, you know, run. But he hasn't, you know, first, you know, I mean, as a style when we got him,

that missed damn near two seasons, you know, just because of that. So he's really more of my concern as an owner. Paul George has been solid enough. I mean, all he has to do is technically be better than him when it comes to just being there. But other than that, you still, even if you have them two, you still have to build pieces around them. Their best team was when they had Lou and Harold. That was the best the team has actually been.

That was the most talent. It's been going downhill since. And you look at that team, particularly that was right after Kawhi had left Toronto. Right? So he was still kind of healthy. But the elephant in the room is it's all Kawhi's fault. Like literally he ain't been healthy.

Literally he's a franchise guy, MVP, expectations out the ass. And you try to figure out, all right, what's wrong with this team when you got a franchise player that's never really playing? Then you got a guy who wants to be the franchise guy who's taking the back seat to another guy who's getting more respect than him. And like you said, Clippers. Still the Clippers.

So it just looks bad overall because Kawhi has not lived up to the hype at all. But when he's been out there in his defense, when Kawhi has actually played, he's been doing his thing. It just hasn't been enough of a sample size. Okay, so why don't he get the same disrespect as AD? Exactly. Exactly. Because AD plays for the Lakers, and we want to keep it real.

Is it because Kawhi just so just... Elephant in the room. Is he just because he's so just quiet that it seems like he just goes unnoticed? I think because he knows karate, we don't want to give him... He knows karate. He knows karate. Karate. Let me shut the fuck up.

So you got to understand, so nobody really want to criticize Kawhi, but for me, man, it's like you gave him this pedestal, you put him there, and it's one guy that we need to criticize just because he's won championships, he's won MVPs, he knows what it's like. But when I went to the Clippers game and I seen what it was like to see a player with no enthusiasm, like he doesn't bring and get the crowd involved. He's not one of those guys that after a bucket and a timeout going to the huddle, everybody's get up, get up. So it sucks the energy out of the arena. Right. It's like picture Tim Duncan playing in New York.

That's difficult. Right. There's like picture Tim Duncan playing in New York. That's difficult because there's no emotion there. It's like LA, Clippers, PG, Kawhi, Russell Westbrook. Russ gives you that energy night in, night out. It only can go so far but I'm expecting Kawhi to be

this new guy and he's not. It's really hurting the team It hurts the morale and like you say you got to blow that team up They got to get rid of that. Yeah, they got blow that up. Oh So you think I hate blowing up teams man? How could you? Be one of those owners man I don't know y'all just go hat there when you talk about Kawhi, you look at Kawhi year by year.

He missed 25 games in 2019, 2020. 30 games, 2020, 2021. Missed the entire season, 21, 22 with the ACL. And 29 games this season. So, question for y'all is how long do you think this window will be over for the Clippers with this PG and Kawhi crew? I mean, you know, at the end of the day, you know, I mean, you know at the end of the day You know me I'm all about relationships depends on the relationship he has with the owner

Other than that I don't know the outside up to another two year two years. I'm maximizing two years give me two my guy got a truck two more years Are you gonna keep the core together? The core is only two people them to Zubac. So I'll keep them to in Zubac He's cheap. Well, he's cheap. Well, his name is Zubac So when you had Harold and you had Lou and you had PG and you had Kawhi It's a good team. That was a good team. It's a good team right there. That was a good team. It's a good team. I think they just, they, they, they, it's always one of those things where you think

you need to make drastic changes and you don't. You know, it's not about quantum leaps, it's just, you know, averaging, you know, just adding a little bit every year. Don't ever go into a summer thinking your team is that good no matter how or far you got add Something of value that can help you go further. Yeah and Clippers just you got rid of Lou That means you got rid of you got rid of two guys. You got rid of 40 points off the bench 100% That's what you got rid of 40 points off your bench that's what you lost the number one

bench in the NBA yes and you just got rid of it like it was nothing and you replaced it with Batum and Eric Gordon

and was it Covington and all three of them don't add up to one of the you know it just and when you talk about the Clippers too

you got Kawhi and PG that are going to be free until 2024 there's also potentially seven other members of that team of the, you know, it just. And when you talk about the Clippers too, you got Kawhi and PG that are going to be free to 2024. There's also potentially seven other members of that team. So it might be a situation where there's going to be some shakeups anyway. You have to.

You said seven others? Yeah. Yeah, no matter. I don't think you can win anything as the Clippers with Zubach as your starting center. This is personal. Wow. He's been there a long time.

Even with. And he hasn't gotten it done. You got the Zubac-Clumley combo now though. No. But what I'm saying, they have a nice, they have a nice, they have bigs that play their role. Yes. And that's what I like about it. He plays this role. You just need them healthy. You need some guards that's going to be healthy and you need a decent bench. But when we talk about play your role, we've seen play your role with DeAndre and Blake, who were better complimentary front guys.

No go-to guy. No go-to. That's what they did. But they didn't have a one-on-one player. They still don't. I mean, Zubox can get you 14 and 14. What I'm saying is you've got Kawhi and you have Paul George. That can play one-on-one.

Oh, you're talking about then. Okay, they didn't have him. Back then, Chris Paul and them didn't match. Jamal Crawford. Off the bench. That was it. Yeah, off the bench. Yeah, he was a six-man.

You're talking about somebody that started the lineup dead. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about another thing that happened in that game. Probably one of the more questionable moments of the season. Second quarter, Clippers failed victim to the rare triple tech. After a missed foul, Kawhi got, I think, his third tech in his career. Terrence Mann got ejected for showing his frustration. I think later on in the game the ref admitted that he had missed the call.

But three free throws, SGA made two of those three, Clippers lose by one point. So what did you think about that whole Kawhi, Terrence Mann, triple tech situation? See, you know, as we should be able to call that ref whatever name we allow to call him legally, right, without getting in trouble. But that is exactly what I was saying before. You have refs who are beta male mentality. Talk about it. Right?

You're reek, you sit down to pee pee. All right? We're just going to say that're you sit down to pee pee. We're just going to say that. You sit down to pee pee. There's nothing wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with it but not to be a referee. Okay. Come on. You're supposed to be like an athlete too. Pull your skirt down B. Like we're sitting here

you're talking about your he yelled at me. That's why I gave him a he yelled. That's someone I gave him a tech. He yelled. That's, someone snapped their hands and you got afraid enough to blow your whip. Like three technicals in four seconds. How is that justified? No. You don't even have time to react.

You're not even letting a guy, you gave him a tech and let him calm down. There should be a 20 second grace period for the guy to realize what he did Okay, I got a tech. Okay cool or get all of it out, but like Technical and then you're still reacting technical get out like Do that shit. Yeah, like that ref should be fine He should be demoted if he was a chief that motherfucker get the busboy like he's busboy. He's behind The what he should be come to games and then you like the replacement ref name You watch because there's no reason like It's quite first. This is where the knowledge of referees supposed to kick in

Yeah, if I'm a referee and I missed a, one is Kawhi Leonard, right? Does not speak. At all. Does not talk. So if he actually says, come on, man, I know, well, damn, I must have missed something. I had to have missed something. Because he doesn't do that often. He doesn't do that often. He does not speak.

So the fact that he did speak means, okay, shit, I missed something. Why am I giving him a technical? This is not a crybaby. This is not a crybaby. This is not a crybaby. This is a man who just plays the game silent. So if he does say something, I'm going to take it in consideration. Okay, maybe I fouled him. Okay, my bad.

Whatever. Keep the game moving. You tech. You tech. You tech. Oprah out there. You get a tech. You get a tech.

Everybody gets a tag. You get a tag. Everybody gets a tag. But look, shout out to Tim Livingston for really, you know, highlighting the referee scandal, man. I'm just saying that it's just unorthodox. Like you said, Kawhi is not the guy you give the tag to. He's the guy you let express himself because this is one of very few moments that he feels that this call was crazy as hell. Right? So for you to do that, it takes my mind to,

if we take Kawhi out the game, in a big game against OKC, and they lose this game, this brings OKC up, these are all plays that... It's fucking the Lakers up too, by extension, which... So what are we really talking about? We like three texts in four seconds?

We need to sit them down in an interrogation room and figure out what's going on. I don't need to sit you down. I know to sit you at home. You talked about demotion and we got to even hit... Fred Van Fleet went off on Ben Taylor a couple weeks ago. The legend Tom Haberstroh

noticed that the NBA moved Taylor out of his usual crew chief role in four of his last five games. So how do you feel about players speaking out against refs, and will we see more of this in the future? Listen, when the players speak out, it's because of the frustration. You shouldn't keep fining them for speaking out about frustration. That's what it is. It's frustration of what's been going on, and you're fining them for speaking up.

It's not like they're just randomly bringing up some referees to talk shit about. They're frustrated with how the game's going. If the referee didn't do his job, okay, that's his problem. But you're fining me for saying he didn't do his job? What are you trying to cover up? What are you trying to, why are you trying to keep me quiet? Like, if I did a bad job,

and someone said, hey, I think Gilbert Arena's refereeing skills was fucking shitty. Yes. And you're willing to eat that fine that you know is coming. But I'm saying that's how much you is coming. But what I'm saying is. But I'm saying that's how much you believe in it.

What I'm saying is, it shouldn't be no fine. If I was shitty that night and he let me know. Do better. Do better. I got to step my game up. Like, who's getting, who. Anybody else getting fined for calling the player shitty that night? Nope.

Nope. We can call them shitty all day. Yeah. And nothing happens. I mean, I'm looking at Dylan Brooks these past couple weeks, and he's gone out to several dudes, no fun. It's just paper. That's what he said.

It's just paper. But look, the refs are a part of the game, too. So they shouldn't be any kind of we can't say nothing about the other three guys that helped this other team win the game. If we're playing eight on five, we have to be able to talk about it because you guys are a part of the game. I need to keep going. I got a ref that. We talked about Takashi and snitching,

and obviously in the hood we don't normally condone snitching, but do you guys support players naming names of these officials when they feel like they've been wrong. Is that snitching? In a sense how Wow You watch that goddamn game that night You could you're tripping it and you highlighting. Yeah highlight it. You know I'm saying it's like yo this He's known for doing that. Digging deep into the grave. No, no, no.

I know this is a good ref, too. So there are some good refs out there. No, no, but this ref is so good. Like, he's in the middle. He's so good that he gets black refs. Black refs. He's in the middle to the point where he's only done in 20-something years. He's only done – he's only made it to the playoff one or two times,

maybe once in the last 20-something years. That's better than the Kings, I'll say at least. Think about it. You're a ref for 20-something years, but because you're so in the middle. It ain't Danny Crawford. No, hell no. Danny Crawford ass. I mean, I guess the thing with refs is,

it's like, it's better if you don't know their name, right? If they're doing a good enough job, I don't even, you know what I mean? Like, but once I was like, damn, this dude keep messing up or this woman keep messing up. Now I know you by name, cause I'm not real. I was taught, like Ticket taught me, you go to that that that leader

circle before the game I'm getting know to know the refs names right not only know their names but be able to have respect for them when they make bad calls because they show you favoritism as a captain okay and I was a team captain for the Timberwolves my last two years so I was able to memorize these names be able to go up to him hey hey man, Danny, what the hell was that? Oh, Rashad, my bad, I got you next time. That's the morale you kind of create, but if you don't create that, you just like a newbie walking up to a pit bull

that don't want to hear nothing. They be like, get the fuck out of here. Don't talk to me like that. Let me get his name. He just, no, I got him to get his flowers. God damn it. You scrolling like there's a lot of goddamn referees out there. Yeah there's a lot of referees.

Is he still employed? Is he still reffing? Uh-huh. We playing Jeopardy right now. God damn it. I'm interested to know who this referee is. He can't find him. Older referee, he has bad hips. They try to use whatever the... Chris Paul, Power Walker.

They try to use... Damn. Damn. R.I.P. Tony Brown. Tony. Tony Brown. Tony. Tony Brown died. Recently? 2022. Yeah.

I'll tell you. Okay. So there is some level of respect and love for refs that y'all rock with, right? Absolutely. I can't remember his name. It's all good. Yeah. Somebody in the chat will pull it up.

But yeah, he's been a ref for 20-something years. And he's so in the chat will pull it up. We got some to do. But yeah, he's been a ref for 20-something years. And he's so in the middle. Basically, he can't be bought. And that's why he can't make it to the playoffs. Let's just say that. Yeah. With the bullshit. Maybe it's better that we don't.

That we don't tell him. He can't keep the show on the air. You know, they coming for it. We don't want to, you know, I know y'all in L.A. Fitness. He can't be bought. Our next time y'all in L.A. Fitness, though, I don't want the Zebras running up on y'all. You know where they coming. Hey, come on if you want to, you know, I know y'all in LA Fitness. Our next time y'all in LA Fitness, though, I don't want the Zebras running up on y'all. You know where they come. Hey, come on if you want to.

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Presented by Underdog Fantasy. So let's start with Jason Tatum. Did his thing for the Celtics in a big road win against the Kings. He dropped 36 points, 14 for 25 from the field, 2 for 7 to 3. Ooh, 6-11 from free throw. He missed those first two to start the game off. I know it was going to be a tough night for him from behind the line. But question for both of y'all.

The Celtics blew out the Kings in Sactown, but is Tatum good enough to carry this Celtics squad to a chip? Is he good enough to do that? No, no, no, no, no, no. Because it's like you want me to say no. I want you to say what you want to say. I can't say yes because not one person by themselves can take anybody. Can he be the Can he be the lead

horse? Yes. That's what I'm asking. No, you say. I didn't say he's going 105. Yes, he can be the lead, the number one option. They were two games away last year. First, no, the Celtics ain't never been good enough to compete for no championship let's just start

there when in current times current times okay it's always been it's always been the media's team to push ah they've been the media who's pushed this average ass team it's been average ass team look at the lineup right now they've been number one all season, right? Talk about it, Gil. Talk about it. We're holding it down right now. Right now. But for the most of the season, it was Boston. They were up there. Now, let's really break this fucking lineup

down. You got two point guards. Not a point in the shooting guard. You got two points. Smart, who if he takes five threes, three gonna hit something but the rim. It's gonna hit something, just not the rim. On three

out of the five. He's gonna make two, and then just three, you just like, he's gonna look at his hands, shit like that. Two for five with three air balls. That's not... It's cold in here. It's cold in here. He's a defensive player, not a good percentage. Two for five with three air balls. That's not. That's cold. It's cold in here. It's cold in here.

He's a defensive player, not a true point. Then you have White. I don't know what it is yet. Yeah, me either. I don't know what he is yet. Okay? He's point. He's there.

He's around. But you got them two at your point guard position. Is he black? Then you got two small forwards playing shooting guard and small forward and power forward. Whatever the fuck

they're doing over there. They got two point guards and two small forwards. And then you got an old ass center who's 6'9", unathletic. The Al Horford slander

got to stop though. He's leading the league in assisted turnover ratio. Cool. He's like top three or five in three point percentage. Cool. Right? You're playing the smallest small ball you can

possibly play because you have no athleticism period. So this is not like a 6'9 Draymond Green who's going to protect the basket. He can jump. He can make it up. You have the most unathletic center period.

So what are we? And then you come off the up. You have the most unathletic center, period. So what are we? And then you come off the bench. You take out your 6'4 guard to put in a 6'6 power forward. Shit. Williams. Unathletic power. You got an unathletic power. You ain't got a Charles Barkley.

You ain't got a 44-inch vertical Charles Barkley. This man got a 28-inch vert. P. This man got a 28 inch vert PJ Tucker PJ Tucker more athletic Graham Williams does this thing now? Yeah, yeah, I'm sure but that That's that's what the team looks like trying to battle Giannis in the starting five who got Giannis Who guard Giannis Jalen Brown? five, who got Giannis? Who guarded Giannis? Jalen Brown. There you go. There you go.

Foul trouble. Got my second best player in foul trouble trying to guard a guy because he got to play out of position. And you got Brooke out there who's stretching it out. Then you got Al Horford out there sitting at the three-point line where his ass want to be on offense. You're saying, bro. I feel the same way, man. I love the way you broke it down because it's like that's the elephant in the room when you talk about it.

You're pushing the shit out of me. Yeah, it's like, man. You need to be coaching or GMing. They have no chance. Nah. They have no chance. The only chance they have is if they get to the championship and then they play like a Sacramento

or a Memphis, some unproven young team that they can just, you know. So they can't beat the Nuggets? Think about it.

Yeah. Damn. It's tough. Why you had to, damn. It's a little matchup. It's tough. Why you had to, damn. It's a little matchup. I'm telling you. It's got to be a good-ass matchup. Would you watch?

Yeah. Yeah. Would you enjoy it, though, while you're watching? No. Okay. Not if Austin's winning after I just made this goddamn take. Because they won for sure. For sure.

Not if I just made this take and I got to watch them. So now we got to show some love. Donovan Mitchell, 31 points, 22 shots, but we're not gonna really highlight that. But one posterization and one sham guy. I was watching it live. It was nice. It seemed like you two always in that situation, bro.

You gotta, that's a business decision. I didn't wanna be the hater with the sham guy, but that wasn't a sham guy. You didn't like it. It wasn't a sham guy. Cause it was just. It was one hand, bop, bop, you know what I mean? It wasn't the sh sham guy, but that wasn't a sham guy. You didn't like it. It wasn't a sham guy. Because it was just. It was one hand. You know what I mean?

It wasn't the sham. No, it wasn't the sham. But I didn't want to. I was going to comment. I'd be like, I don't want to be that guy. It wasn't nice. It was nice as fuck, though. You said it.

That one hand. Got him. With the three, yes. So it brings me to my question. Some have questioned the Donovan Mitchell trade. Can the Donovan Mitchell, Darius Garland, Evan Mobley core turn the Cavs from a good team to an elite team? Right now, last year they were 44

and 38. That was good enough for ninth last season. As of today, they're 46 and 28, fourth in the East right now. These dudes are young. Darius Garland and Evan Mobley, they young. They're under contract. They're going to be there for a few more years I'm not saying

today but in the next couple years can this team become a lead in the East it's Cleveland damn it's Cleveland you're not rocking with

it's Cleveland they got a chip though yeah Portland got a chip too back when Bill Walton was playing what the hell Cleveland

it's Cleveland no LeBron it's the hell is that? Cleveland. It's Cleveland. No LeBron. It's Cleveland. What y'all talking about? It's Cleveland. The colors, the name, the coach. You're not rocking with the Cavaliers? JB, bigger staff, got karma coming to him, man.

Uh-uh. He said karma? You got karma coming to you, boy. I love the players. I love the players. The lineup they got, those three, the three-headed monsters,

I like them. With Jared Allen, you know what I'm saying, they just don't got enough. Right? They don't got enough. And I think Mitchell coming from Utah

and being a Midwest guy, he wants it to be the place for him, but I still think he a big market guy. He from New York. But he was in Utah. Too small market. That's what I'm saying. If you a big

market guy, you got to go to that big market. And just so, to your LeBron point, Cavs have not won a playoff series without LeBron since 1993. Come on, man. No, no. I believe that. Can this court win a playoff series at least to get... Can you say it again? Can you say that one more time for the cameras? Cavs haven't won a playoff series without Le? Can you say it again? Can you say that one more time for the cameras?

Cavs haven't won a playoff series without LeBron since 1993. So can this Cavs squad, let's start easy before they become a lead team, can they at least win a playoff series? If they play... They'll be playing the Knicks. If they play the Knicks, they possibly can. Because the reason is them fucking fans over there. The Knicks, they possibly can. The reason is them fucking fans over there. The Knicks fans. Yeah, because the Cavs fans, they going to boo you out of there.

They going to boo New York out of the building. The problem with New York is they might boo New York out of the building. So that can turn easy if the Cavs can jump on them in the first quarter in the garden, like really jump out on them, and that crowd just is neutralized or just starts, you know, side-talking the Knicks, then Cleveland has a chance. Okay. Because it's basically home games for them.

If they can just focus on, Joe, at that garden, focused on jumping out on them early. Yeah. Try to outscore them early in that game and let the crowd turn, and we good. Other than that, if that New York crowd gets smart and say, hey, no matter what the Knicks do, no matter what they do, if they start 0-20, still boo the they do, if they start 0-20,

still boo the other team. If they start 0-20, boo the other team. It'll be hard to win in the Garden. Yeah, we're going to be in New York in the near future. We staying out the gym. Right? Hotel. I might get that car. Hotel. Car. Back to hotel.

See, the way they do it, I might be at the goddamn bar in the hotel. I tell you right now.. No, see, the way they do it, I might be at the goddamn bar in the hotel. I tell you right now. Get hit with the bottle by the bartender. When you break down the Cleveland-New York series, what it would look like, me and my homeboy, we talk a lot about Cleveland's half-court offense. Like you said, you got to jump on them early. It's got to be fast break.

It's got to be fast paced It's got to be fast pace. And they like to slow the ball down way too much. Like they actually have a half-court offense. You got somebody like Mobley and Allen who can beat that shit up, start the break. You got to go. You got to move that bitch up and down. And then you got Mitchell and Garland who can put it up freely. They not doing that enough.

And that's why I'm hesitant about picking them in the playoffs because they don't move the ball up and down the floor as if they're a young team. They got a lot of young hitters they're not taking advantage of. That does change things too. So let's talk about these

Knicks now. And we got to give a shout out to Julius Randle. Dropped a 57 piece in a loss at MSG. And while we're here, let's talk about the most 50-point games and losses. Will had 37. MJ had 8. Kobe had 7. James Harden got 6.

Gil, how good does scoring 57 in a loss feel? In a regular season. Don't feel bad. I can tell you that. Do not feel bad. You had 47-78 in the loss of the Heat

back in December 2005. D-Wade and Shaq combined for 62. You remember that game? Yep. How'd you feel after that 47? Slept good. Slept good. I slept good.

Went to dinner. It wasn't my fault. It was y'all. Hey, listen, listen. I don't give a shit what no one says. I don't. They can. You listen.

You can be a reporter all you want, but a player, a player, if, listen, after 30, after I hit, after I hit my average, everything after that is like, yeah, you know, we had a rough team loss. You know, we had a rough team loss. You know, we just got to bounce back tomorrow. Celebration. When I get in the car. Celebration.

Yeah, man. I did my thing tonight, man. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know us. Yeah. Yeah. You know, those motherfuckers went past the ball, you know, dropped balls and shit.

You know what I mean? I could have had 60 on their ass. I could have had 60 out of the pants of that motherfucker in the corner, man. Fuck that. All right, fellas. Fuck that. All right, fellas, let's keep this thing moving. We're going to do some underdog pick-ems. We got some higher lowers to get to.

Graphic time. Ooh, look at that. Shout out underdog fantasy for supplying us with these bags. We're going to put our money where our mouth is. We're not giving you any gambling advice. We're telling you what we're doing. You don't have to do it. We're not pressuring any gambling advice. We're telling you what we're doing. You don't have to do it. We're not pressuring you

because you know they be on you for that shit. I can tell you right now, listen people, listen people. I'm losing a lot right now. The picks I got, you can see it, they're going to be the lowest. That's all I had. I had. I had $25 left, right?

You're funny now. I had $25. I done lost every damn dollar today. Boy, you funny. You getting cooked, you getting cooked? Just do the opposite. I'm not going to lie. I'm getting cooked.

Hey, honestly, that's sound advice. Generally take... Just take the opposite of me. I'm going to get a few of these right, but I'm going to fuck up one. It's not our fault. Coaches betray us. Coaches be betraying us. Players be betraying us. But your picks do be looking good.

They look good on paper. My kicks look good on paper. This is when I knew. I was like, you know what? I'm done. I can't keep no money. I put Fox to have four and a half free throws. Right? Fox. May. Huh? Four May four and a half. So five May free throws. Yeah, five May free

throws. He attacks all game. Every game. Every game. That game, zero. Come on, man. Fisting me off. Off the phone. What? Fisting me off. How fold. What? How? How? Well, I got to the, like, I didn't even watch the game. I just went to the fourth quarter like, yeah. Zero? Hell no. I had to go to NBA.com. All right, ESPN.com.

Let me turn the game on. Click. It's like, yeah, fourth, zero. They be bullshitting with the staff sometimes. I had Quigley over two turnovers. He had that second turnover. It took a little too long to update. Had me nervous. Had me nervous.

Had to keep refreshing. It was a turnover. But let's start. We'll go with my picks first. We got the nice, lovely full screen. So I got Jimmy Butler, higher than 24.5 points versus the Knicks. Draymond Green, higher than 6.5 assists against the Mavs. I think it's going to be a high- game. And Steph, Steph has been letting me down

because he's been trying to get all these twos now. Shoot three, Steph! That's what you do! So I need him over 4.5, three pointers against the Mavs. I think he's going to get it done. He's going to hit five. Because the thing about Steph is he can fuck around and do that in like the last minute of the fourth quarter. Yep. And that's how he be doing it. And he be like in the first quarter, you be good. You be sitting there like, ah, this is easy. Easy.

Or you can do it in the first. He just go on a streak. He knocked out five in a row quick. But let's go to Gil's picks. Gil, you kept it light. You got the two picks. No, I didn't keep. That's all the money I have.

That's it. That's $25. And I don't like this either, underdog. We need to talk to some people because you got five assists. I don't want the push. Give me a 4.5. Give me a 5.5. No, no, no, no, no, no. He need to go some people because you got five assists I don't want the push give me a four point five give me a five point I'll take my five just he needed to get five need to get six to get you to bread. That's fine Okay, I don't want it five point five and he get five and I'll

She got take my five and you got Joker 46 points rebounds and assists the higher this thing about Joker to me He's been kind of tripping since that whole MVP talk and whatever. Ever since goddamn Pert, man. Ever since Pert, man. Get him back, Joker! That 46 is tough right there. I don't even know why I picked that. I was just happy I had $25 left, to be honest

with you. I'm not even going to lie. You know how you just try to spin it before they take it? Let me get this one. I was just spinning it. You break it just shot spit it before they take it what a 25 11 11 no way realistic but like that He'll fuck around get 19 rebounds and he'll get you on the rebound Oh, yeah, but you know you get it from every spot not gonna let you down He's gonna still attack might get you 18 But it'd be hard watching these games when you see Westbrook or somebody with a nice dime and it gets tricked,

I really like – that shit really stings now. Or they take the extra dribble so it don't count. Bro, they do that shit all the time, bro. I know he's going to have – Two dribbles or less. I know you're going to have at least five. I got that. So let's go.

I'm going to have five. I got the five piece. I'm going to have the five piece. Let's take it. We got Klay Thompson. I'm taking the big money, man. He got hired a 3.5, three-pointers man. See, I don't like that one because I don't need him making all the threes and not Steph. They need to team up and combine. Let's really take it. We got Clay Thompson. I'm taking the big money, man. He got hired at 3.5, three-pointers made. See, I don't like that one because I don't need him making all the threes

and not Steph. They need to team up and combine. Let's really get it. You got Steph Curry, 34.5 points in assists. There we go with the hire. Looney, you need a block. See that, man. Tyler Hero, he need to get that four assists for you versus the Knicks.

Jimmy Butler, this is the one that really be grinding my gears. Higher than eight free throws made. Like, I'm watching the Kings-Celtics game. Jason Tatum gets fouled right off the top. I got his points rebound assist, so I'm not tripping on free throws per se. Two free throws to start the game. Misses both of them. It's like, what are we doing?

AD. Same thing. Was like six for 11. AD, this is your job. You make free throws. This is what you do. Free money. But Austin Reeves, 11. Hey dude, this is your job. You make free, this is what you do. Free money. But Austin Reeves on the other hand, really been... Then you give me some Austin Reeves stuff.

I'm going to start taking me some Austin Reeves stuff. He's been at like 12.5 points a few times. I don't know. Austin Reeves is going to really go out here quick. He's not going to let us down. He respected. He saw the apology yesterday. He's going to get it back tonight.

I think he's like 14.5 points tonight. No way. Damn, I never in my mind would have thought I'd be knowing all this shit and talking like this. That's why I told Underdog when I first took this job, I don't know none of this shit, but now I'm hooked. I'm hooked. I'm hooked.

This shit is fun, right? It makes the games exciting. It does. And the fans need to see this shit too. Hey, look, Underdog Fantasy got the work. Like, you can have fun with this shit. Like, I really wake up and say, by 4.10, I need to make my picks. By 4.10?

By 4.10. I'm going to be like, ooh, I'll be on that cliffhanger. Man, because I'm watching the games from 4 o'clock to 9 o'clock now. I'm literally tuned in. And they've been doing the live joints, too, where it's like at halftime, I fucked around. Randall might have had 20 at halftime on that 57-point game, and his thing was like 35, and I'm like, ooh. I take Jalen Brunson. He let me down. He betrayed me, but I'm watching the game. It's like, Randall got 51 at the end of the third.

I'm like, this is the type of shit that happens. You know who wins the most? Drunk people. Like drunk people, man. I was like, you know what? I'm going to just take two shots next time and make my pitch. Cause you don't start thinking when you when you um When you sober you try to make picture be the law. You're overthinking

Checking game. I'll be on ESPN check It's a five seconds like I picked it wrong how many threes did he hit the last ten games? So the drum of over just pick this So if you want to join in the fun make sure you get that underdog fantasy app use code gills arena I don't know if I would just pick that shit. Drunk people just be like, yeah, over. Yeah, I'm going to open this shit up for you. Over below it. So if you want to join in the fun, make sure you get that Underdog Fantasy app. Use code GILZARENA. They will match your first deposit up to $100. That's good bread.

That's good bread. So you put in 100, you start with 200. That's good bread. But now- Oh, I need to, yeah. You ain't use your GILZARENA? No. What the hell? Huh?

You got to put- It's your code. I know. I'm going to use it, and then I'm going to use it Gills Arena? No. What the hell? Huh? It's your code. I know. I'm going to use it, and then I'm going to use it on some other accounts, too. Yeah, but listen, I'm going to get my goddamn 100 for the 200. All right, now it's time to go 0 to 100 real quick. We're going to do this one quicker than we normally do. You know, it's Wednesday. We've got a lot of things we've got to get into.

So, Shams reports that Carl Anthony Towns is expected to return tonight after missing 51 games with a grade 3 calf strain That's so that was crap calf. I mean, okay, that's the series. That's a serious calf strain Anthony Edwards We saw that injury it looked like it was gonna be something serious, but these young dudes nowadays they be on that You know, you got me. I either rub it rub it down. Miyagi gave him the little stuff, but he's looking like he's going to come back, too. Minnesota's currently in ninth place, so I'm going to ask

you guys, 0-100, what are the chances that the Timberwolves make it out of the play-in into the playoffs? Right now, season ended today, they would be playing the Jazz in the first game, and if they won, they'd play the loser of the Thunder Mavs. How many more games left? So they have, ooh,

nine? Hmm. The Timberwolves. I know, right? I don't think I'm going to... Is that the answer to everything? My guy already missed 51 games. His calf ain't game-tested.

I'm shutting him down. You wouldn't let him play these nine to see if we can make a playoff push? It ain't worth it. Minutes restricted? He's missed 51 games because of that. So if he retweaks it, re-tears the same one, now I'm jeopardizing next season. Absolutely. So I'll just be like, hey, listen, you did good, big fella.

Let's get ready for next season. That's me. What are the chances if you put a number figure on it? What? That they get out of the plane? Without Cat? Without Cat. I mean, they're stupid, so they might try to play him,

and I'm giving them 25%. Okay. Rashad, what you doing? Zero. Okay. Zero. I mean, like you say, Cat 51. If they're not together and they're not fully in full chemistry,

it's going to be tough for them to go in and beat any of these teams that's been playing together and gelling together. And who is over there? Nas Reed and McDaniels. Kyle Anderson. Slow Mo. UCLA legend. Michael Conley. Oh, they're decent.

They're decent. They're steady. So let's say hypothetically, Cat comes back, he's good to go. They make it out of the plane. 51 games? You're not good to go. He's good enough.

51 games? He's good enough. That means he ain't in game game playoff shape because he ain't been doing nothing because of a calf. That's his leg. So he ain't been really getting up and going. Nah. Okay.

Nah, shut him down. So we're not even going to do the hype. Nah, I'm not even going to. I'm shutting him down. I was going to ask you because they win a playoff series. Hell nah. Hell nah. Minnesota Timberwolves, man. No, he's out of it. Minnesota Timberwolves, man. No. He's out of it. No.

This ain't Michael Jordan. But there's the rest of the team. Let's say Cass out of it. You tell me, Ant and Colbert. Colbert. Really. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? The yogurt man.

What are you going to do? Come on. Listen. These only defensive players, that shit sound good if you was an 80s old coach. But this is just 2023. Gobert, we're playing hard. Having guys that's on your team that play nothing but defense and they can't put no points on the board. Like, listen to how it sounds.

Let me try this. Gobert has to guard Embiid right Embiid is going to score about let's say he holds him to 24 right that's a great ass defensive game for Goldberg to hold Embiid to 24 points Goldberg scores 2 to 3 points

that's a no he not not the defense he got to play on Embiid beat he not gonna have that same energy to try to score So he's okay. They don't know who gonna throw it. I mean, who know about nobody that dumb right in the playoffs Mm-hmm. So what I'm saying is That's it. That's okay. Let's say score. That's 12 to 21 points Someone else has to make up Anthony Edwards can't do it?

Anthony Edwards, man. Who he guarding? Middleton. He got to try to battle that point for point. Absolutely. People don't realize, listen, for me to beat a score, I need a fucking score. Yes. You cannot beat me with a defensive player. But you're talking about. I'm a defensive player. I mean, I'm an fucking score. Yes. You cannot beat me with a defensive player.

But you're talking about... I'm a defensive player. I mean, I'm an offensive player. Now, think if you put a Patrick Beverly on me, right? I'm working him on defense. When he's on offense, what am I doing? Chilling. Swing it.

He with us. I'm rested. He with us. I'm rested. I get to literally play one-sided basketball. The worst thing you want to do for an offensive guy, let him not play defense. Yep. Like, if I want to stop Curry, I need Dame.

I need Kyrie. Yep. I don't need some defensive play. I don't want, I don't want, you know, some defensive player. I don't want, I don't want, um. Lou Dort, Lou Dort, Lou Dort. Lou Dort locked up Kawhi yesterday. Cool. But you gotta get a, like he's saying, the balance of giving those points back.

I get it. To stop a lion, you need a lion. So if I'm gonna stop a score, I need a score. I need a scorer to put the pressure back on him. Absolutely. Trying to get him in foul trouble. Every, every, every guy I had a problem with is because they were trying to score on me also.

A defensive player, I don't got to guard Bruce Bowen. He's going to be sitting in the corner like a plant. He's no different than that TV right there. I know where he at. Rebound, shoot it. If he is on fire, he would fucking have 12, four threes, four for the three-point line. I had 30-something.

Offset that. All right, well, let's keep this moving then. We done done a lot of Timberwolves talk. Let's talk about Damian Lillard. He has some interesting things to say about the Blazers and how he's not interested in a Blazers rebuild. That's not what I'm interested in. So that's the frustrating part of it is talking about, oh, you know,

for what's going to happen next season and us building like this. It's not what I'm here to do, especially at this stage in my career. So as much as it is encouraging to promote that brand of basketball that you probably win with going forward, and that's what we got to learn to make a habit of. I mean, right now I'm not out there looking like, okay, we making these plays. This is what we got to start doing for net, you know, that's You know, it's hard for me to remove myself from the present as far as that and then go forward about being excited about what? We what we doing that we can

All right, so what are the chances? Zero to 100 that Dame is a blazer for his entire career you got the colors on too I want to say 100 okay but I'm torn because I know

the management may not feel that way because it's a culture thing it's ratings Because I know the management may not feel that way. Because it's a culture thing. It's ratings. It's fans. What the fans want, right? Not necessarily what Dane wants.

So I know he's loyal to the point where, like he just said, I want to add pieces that can help. I don't want to go dismantle the team, rebuild completely from the beginning. No real star wants to do that. So to get him the pieces he needs is getting him, you know, getting him with Chauncey in the front office and saying like, what do we actually need that's going to take us to this promised land and get us over the hump?

You need some brothers. You need some brothers. You need a athletic big man that can help you block shots, rebound, pass. You're going to have to start fitting into what the culture of the game is turning to now.

The game is by itself, so we got to figure out how to get them pieces in there. I'm going to tell them general managers just like this. If y'all ever know anything about the shoe community, if you live in New York, LA, you can probably get some Kanye's or whatever shoe for price. You live in Memphis, Minnesota, Ohio, shit like that. You're going to have to overpay for the same Yeezys, okay?

So for you to build your teams, you're going to have to overpay for the same talent. So if some guy is asking for 400, I mean, full year 100, you're going to have to spend 130. I'm sorry. You try to convince somebody to leave these teams for the same price and their market is bigger? No, no, no, no, no. You're going to have to spend a lot more money due to the city you're in. So, you know, Portland and, you know, Dame, you know, unfortunately, you're not, y'all going to have to open the wallet a little bit. You're going to have to start making under the table deals.

You know, we can do, you know, 35 on paper. Like, you want Reeves? And it's four year 50? Yeah, you're going to have to do four years and five four year 80 right it's just that's how you're gonna have to do your free agent market to get people over there that's ugly like you you no one wants to go that's why these cities have not figured it out yet you're gonna have to actually overplay for the same shit When you go in that shoe and you be like, man, these shits were $220 last week. $655.

How? If you really want them, that's what you're going to have to pay. And when you resell it, $220. When you look at Portland, though, like all the teams they've ever had, those pieces were already there. Already there. Right? Nobody came to Portland.

So that's what we're looking at now. You're going to have to overpay in the marketplace. So when the free agency come and some kid is talking about four-year 20, four-year 40, what's up? Four-year 50, how you doing? All right, thank you. Appreciate it. You're going to have to A.

So you think Scoot Henderson and one of these young Jones can come in there and help? But what I'm saying, you're relying on rookies. You're relying on rookies when Portland, they're going to be good enough not to be in a lottery. So tell me who you think they could add with With the pool of that who layers in this year Who's a PG Kawhi no mint. No, that's middle. That's next year Middleton, right? Let's see who we got Who Harden? It's important your guy Russell Westbrook. Uh-huh. Who else?

Chris Middleton. All right, so somebody like Chris, right? He asked for what? Kyrie. What did Middleton ask for? About a five-year... Two. 200? Then some...

You're going to have to make him the highest paid. Unfortunately. 250. 225. What's up? Chris Middleton. $225,000. Can you do that with Dame?

$225,000. You got to get into that luxury tax. $225,000. That's what I'm saying. I need... You got D-Lo. You got... You know, listen. Hold on. What?

I'm an owner. I'm an owner. Y'all not going to tell me I can't do this. $220,000? All right, listen. I got $160,000 on paper., listen. I got 160 on paper. I got 160 on paper, all right? I got another 60 behind the scenes.

I'll give it to you January Christmas. Just invest in this. Yeah, what the fuck are y'all talking about? I don't know what y'all think this is. I don't need to play fair. Catch me. Catch me. Catch me. Catch me if you can. No, I'm't need to play fair. Catch me. Catch me. Catch me.

Catch me if you can. No, I'm just going to do catch me. I'm a small market. I need to compete. I can overpay, and I can pay under the table where it don't count against my salary. I'm a businessman. This is my business. I'm going to do whatever it takes to make my shit work.

I am not sitting here losing. We are competitive. I'm not losing. You're going to not my shit work. I am not sitting here losing. We are competitive. I'm not losing. You gonna not take a check for 60 million under the table to this, through a foundation. You see what I make on this show. You know damn well. To a foundation.

I'm just saying, you on these backdoor foundations and shit. I don't care how it gets there as long as it gets there. Who the fuck is looking? Hey, Minnesota did it with Joe Smith. No, they got caught. They stupid. They still did it. No, but that's what I'm saying.

You got to, I don't listen. 160 on the table. You got a foundation? Hmm. All right. You got an angel investor? You got an angel investor? You got an angel investor?

Check your account. You got a rap studio you're trying to build? I can be your. I got you. Man, what are we talking about? Who is watching? Where's Bombers money going right now? Nobody knows.

Nobody cares. But are those players that we name players that can help them win a chip? That's the real question. Eventually. You just, pieces after pieces. I just need to keep pulling in pieces after pieces. Year after year. I get Middleton this year, I might get Kawhi next year.

You're talking about a five-year plan now. If I get Middleton this summer and then Kawhi and Paul George is up and I can throw a bag at one of them too that they're not going to get, now I got Dame, Middleton, and a Kawhi or Paul George. Shit. What's happening? How long do you keep Dame?

That's two years. Two years I done made That's two years. Two years I done made a drastic change. So in the third year you make a... Third year we... I see Dame... Fuck around, get Bronny and have LeBron over there. Oh shit, I done got a whole new team.

I see Dame getting burnt out in four years from now. Nah. Burnt out. I mean the way he's talking now, it sounds like he... Yeah, he... Oh, it sounds like he burnt because he don't see no future. You talking about two, three years and you- What I'm saying is I get Middleton this year.

When is Bron up? Bron is up, I think, 2024. Yeah, this year I get Middleton this year. Let's say I got Kawhi next year. That's a lot of money. Jenna. Yeah, I'm spinning anyway. Mm-hmm Right little tax write-off a Brian Brian. Listen you want to be an owner after this you want to be older, right? Hit it with one of them MJ's you want to be older, right? Let me go ahead and uh

Yeah, I got a friend who wants to build this this arena over in Vegas, you know the Vegas arena And you know, he's looking for a great partner. What you're thinking deal is what you're talking sound good girl I sound good motherfuckers. Oh not at all. Listen. I got a studio in this house, right? So I I got a studio in the house. Okay, so I can say some shit. I can say some stuff. I Can say some shit. That should sound good, man. Sound good. But it's like three max squares. That's like three max.

That's like 600 mil. That's a half a bean. Boy, you got to spend that bread. Love and happiness. Here you go, my man. Take that. Take that. Here you go, my mans.

They going to spend it anyway. Well, that's real. Here you go, my man. Take that. Take that. Here you go, my man. They going to spin it anyway. That's real. Hey, Doyle, is that New York? Yeah. Dolan? Dolan.

Make me general manager. I guarantee you'll have a championship in three years, my man. Damn. Three years, Gil. Three years. You bringing them in. Jimmy D, you listening? You bringing them in.

Hell yeah. To New York. You bringing them.. You listening? You bringing them in. Hell yeah. To New York. You bringing them. I mean, I got the biggest market. I got Spike Lee. I got everything. You're going to still spend the same money. We're just going to do it different. I want to see this.

We're just going to do it different. I want to see this shit. I would like to see it. I got all this New York real estate. Man, crazy. Hey, man, we should do a segment. Are y'all serious? I got all the New York real estate. Man, crazy. Hey, man, we should do a segment. Are y'all serious? I got all the rich-ass folks in the Hamptons.

You crazy. Hey, hey, people, come on down. I got to do something real quick. Bring them yachts out. Let's bring these yachts out. Let's go ahead and come on. Y'all tripping. Y'all tripping.

They tripping. I want to see the whiteboard on that one. I want to see your whiteboard. They just don't know how to spend their money the right way. They're going to spendboard. They just don't know how to spend their money the right way. They're going to spend it, but they don't know how to spend it

the right way. The right way. I hear you. I'm the type to call the mayor. I need all green lights today. I need all green.

I need to show him what kind of pool. I need all green lights. No stop. From the airport straight here. No traffic today. Let me show you something else, bud. Let me show you how we do this. Ready? Set. Go. Look up. No stop. From the airport straight here. No traffic today. Let me show you something else.

Let me show you how we do this. Let me show you how we do this. Ready? Set. Go. Look up. All green. All the way straight out.

Oh, man. I'm doing something. I'm going to show the power. Wow. I love it. Well, damn good. I think that's a great way to end this show for today. I don't really think we got no more to get into.

No. We appreciate y'all. Oh, wait. What you got? You got the Agent Zero? Yeah. Oh, man. Listen. Listen. We got the showcase. We appreciate y'all. Oh, wait. You got the Agent Zero? Yeah, man. No, man. Listen.

We got to showcase. See, this is self-abrading. That's coordination. It's love day, man. Look at this, man. It's love day. You got to coordinate. You got to coordinate.

You feel me? If y'all see me in there, I just smash this shit. I'm not even going to lie. Yeah, we got the custom fits for you, man. That's what I show love to all the people that show love back. You know what I'm saying? That's all. You know, Legacy, Guilt of the Rain is Agent Zero, man.

Why are you putting them back on? I told you you're not leaving this house. I'm just saying, man. Someone's going to get my gun. He ain't coming. He ain't leaving with this shit. I don't want no problems. It's greatness, man.

Let's celebrate. And we got the smoke. This has been another episode of Guilt of the Rain presented by Under, man. I'm celebrating. And we got to smoke. This has been another episode of Girls Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woo woo woo. We appreciate you. Woo. We'll see you all tomorrow.