Gil's Arena - Kawhi's VINTAGE Playoff Performance LIGHTS UP Gil's Arena

Episode Date: April 22, 2025

Kawhi Leonard's VINTAGE Playoff Performance LIGHTS UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew reacts to Kawhi Leonard turning back the clock to deliver a classic performance to carry the ...Los Angeles Clippers over the Denver Nuggets and solidify himself as one of the most dangerous playoff performers in basketball. The Gil's Arena Crew debates if this performance changes the outlook on the Clippers moving forward in the NBA Playoffs and sparks an interesting conversation on what the Klaw's career looks like without injury. Next, they react to the Detroit Pistons shocking the New York Knicks with a win to even the series and break down everything that changed for the Knicks following their Game 1 win like the officiating on Jalen Brunson, Karl Anthony-Towns' 2nd half disappearance and Cade Cunningham's playoff emergence. Then, the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to more news trickling out on the Phoenix Suns' dysfunctional season as rumors swirl that Bol Bol was benched at the end of the season due to disciplinary reasons, sparking a debate on if the promising young star was treated unfairly during the team's playoff push and if he'll look to change teams in free agency. Finally, Gilbert Arenas breaks down the OKC Thunder's historic blowout of the Memphis Grizzlies in Game 1 of their NBA Playoff series and previews Damian Lillard's return to the court where he looks to even the series between the Milwaukee Bucks & Indiana Pacers. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants & Nick Young Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena If you need to hire for your business and want an easier way to find qualified candidates, head to https://ZipRecruiter.com/GIL to try for FREE. USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 2 Min Countdown 0:01:59 Show Start 0:07:18 DeMar DeRozan's HOSTILE Altercation With A Fan 0:19:26 Shannon Sharpe Accused of Sexual Assault 0:26:29 Vintage Kawhi Leonard Is Back!! 0:37:49 Who Takes The Nuggets Last Shot 0:39:20 Is Kawhi Top 5 Ever Without Injuries? 0:50:47 Can The Nuggets Stick With The Clippers 0:58:17 The Pistons Stun The Knicks In Game 2 1:10:19 Thibs Calls Out The Refs After Game 2 1:22:01 Thibs Is Running The Knicks Into The Ground 1:34:53 OKC's HISTORIC Game 1 Blowout 1:51:03 Nico Harrison Is In The Sunken Place 2:09:11 Damian Lillard Returns For The Bucks 2:14:29 Rashad Predicts The Lakers To Win in 6 2:24:16 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:26 terms apply. Instacart. Groceries that over-deliver. Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Woo-woo! That makes sense. Sorry, we had a little pre-show discussion going on.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Appreciate everybody pulling up today. Got a lot of playoff basketball to talk. How everybody feeling? Exciting. Nice. Good to see you. Repping for the Purple and Gold game, too. That's the heat.
Starting point is 00:00:54 That's the heat. I'm going to tie this series up. Man, he got him got that with Brian on. You know what that means. Yeah, that's his problem. Oh, you're Lucas. That's Lucas Brown, okay? Brown Lucas, my bad.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Gil, did you get the Lakers ticket? Oh, AR. Oh, AR, okay. LeBron, Lucas, AR. Okay, I got it. You got the Lakers situation situated? Yeah. Playing with our tickets.
Starting point is 00:01:20 All right. Put them on SeatGeek. And if you buy them, you call Gil. I'm just kidding. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog you buy them, you can call Gil. I'm just kidding, but this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. It's always good to let you go, but Arena's here with us.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Something gang-fying. I don't know how to do it. On this side of the couch, we've got NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P, Nick Young, back with us. Just one? One ring today?
Starting point is 00:01:44 One ring. Nah, I was doing a six. Like MJ. And the man known as Cemetery Larry, NCAA champion Rashad McCants. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Ah, I'm back. You can't throw in champions. He's the NCAA champion of the world.
Starting point is 00:02:03 I'm out of solitary confinement. No Rolex. Just relax. We back. We back. We back. Got a lot of things to discuss for all the fans out there. We still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick which everyone you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Here's what's cracking in the arena today. Clippers flipped the script and stole game two from the Nuggets thanks to a vintage performance from Kawhi. What adjustments does Denver need to make to slow down the claw in game three? Kawhi out there doing his thing. 39-piece. 15-19 from the field.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Still rocking braids. Let's go. Life is good. Kay Cunningham was the man in the garden in the Pistons game two win over the Knicks. Who do the Knicks need to get more out of to avoid falling behind in the series? That's a diabolical photo right there. That's OG.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Shout out to Cade doing his thing out there. And Dame Lillard is back in the Bucs lineup for their game 2 meeting against the Pacers when Milwaukee find new life with their number 2 option back on the floor. Dame and Halliburton have some words exchanged during game one.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Dame threatened to whoop his ass in so many uncertain terms. We'll see if we'll be able to do it on the floor. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead and download the app. Use promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. And playoff basketball is here and Underdog is going big this year. With the extender promo you'll get bigger to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. And playoff basketball is here, and Underdog is going big this year.
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Starting point is 00:04:17 So you got Dame Lillard higher 17.5 points Dame hasn't played since mid-march while dealing with that blood clot in his calf But back tonight ready to get to work. Isaiah Hardenstein, higher 9.5 rebounds. Thunder smacked the Grizzlies. Game one, largest game one defeat, NBA playoff history. I said it won't happen again. Well, we will find out. You got Ant-Man, higher 5.5 assists. Lakers-Wol. Higher 5.5 assists. Lakers-Wolves game two.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Ant has some choice words for a Lakers fan during game one. Letting him know he had more junk in the front. In the NBA. He said, give us 50 racks. But how everybody feeling about these picks for tonight? Michael? You think Dame going over 18 first game back? Motivated?
Starting point is 00:05:07 40. You said Dame's going for 40? For sure. Shastradamus predicts a 40-piece for Dame Lillard. His return to the court tonight. Six assists? He had nine last game. But that ain't going to happen again.
Starting point is 00:05:20 He had five games before that. Damian Daniels not about to hit five threes tonight. Nas Reid will. Nasty Nas. So we asked the chat if they're riding or fading with your picks. 71% of the chat is riding with these picks tonight. Man, let's go. We about to get this bread.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Y'all know I won't be losing. You want to get your bread right, download the Underdog app. Use promo code GILGOOD up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick. And if you can't watch the show live with us on youtube we have audio versions available on apple spotify wherever you get your podcast so we got a lot of playoffs to discuss uh we're going to talk about something else that went down recently uh this weekend to be exact demar de rosen kings did not reach the playoffs after getting knocked out in the play-in last week so debo was just trying to enjoy some sushi at a restaurant in Calabasas over the weekend when a fan decided to interrupt his meal and stuck a camera in his face. That did not go well as the
Starting point is 00:06:10 fan quickly found out what happens when you mess with a man from comedy. They're trying to kick me out for no reason. Come on, man. Don't walk up on me. Don't walk up on me. Don't walk up on me. Come on. Let me get my phone. Let me get my phone.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Okay, let me get my phone. Let me get my phone. But that wasn't all. With footage showing DeRozan allegedly getting into a physical altercation with the guy who stuck the phone in his face. He is kicking. He is kicking. He's my hero. My hero. So never meet your heroes, ladies and gentlemen. But if you do, don't stick a phone in their face with the flash on.
Starting point is 00:07:20 Shit. So a man alleging to be the person who approached theRozan with his phone posted the video on Twitter this weekend, included two images of a book he was trying to promote. According to the man's Twitter bio, he's a homeless comedian. And I will not read the name of the book to give him any further promo. But after seeing the video and hearing more context, y'all understand why DeRozan decided to take off on this fan in this situation. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:07:47 You know, shit out of company. Little nigga named Gusto. That's Gusto, right? Hey, man, how you doing? Just trying to eat dinner, man. You know, to DeMar's credit, he done had, you know, running some people broken in his house and stuff while his kids was there. We heard that.
Starting point is 00:08:09 We don't know how that plays into what's going on in his head. People just running up on him while he had dinner and not paying attention. Anything can happen. People think shit's sweet in Calabasas. It goes down. Don't let them lie to you. How'd that happen? It ain't uncommon in the comments But do was kicking up in the air
Starting point is 00:08:31 Legs up so shot after seeing this video kind of explanation of events you understand why tomorrow had to Regulate on the fan trying to put a camera in his face with the flash on man. Just trying to enjoy a little sushi But the fan trying to put a camera in his face with the flash on man just trying to enjoy a little sushi uh i mean it's not something i would have done but you know after that exit it's kind of a harsh energy right there bad timing fan you know if they didn't want you probably gotta say and demar just been yeah think about it sack, everybody get traded, then they just lose. Like, everywhere he's been going, something negative has happened to that team.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Like, he even got traded for Toronto. They win the championship. Like, he's probably just messed up mentally. Yeah. Didn't even have a dinner, though. You trying to eat some sushi in a fine Japanese restaurant? Come put the phone in your face with the flash on.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Gil, how would you have handled that situation? I'd have finished eating my food. I'd pay for the sushi. Hopefully they count the meal at least. I mean, homeless man in Calabasas is... Homeless comedian. In Calabasas?
Starting point is 00:09:44 That's rare we live rough out here Gil so if you live in your car is that homeless that is technically a car could be perceived as a home
Starting point is 00:09:54 but that is technically by standard definition homeless yeah I don't know really you can make anything a home yeah
Starting point is 00:10:04 the right amount of cardboard I don't know. Really, you can make anything at home. Yeah. The right amount of cardboard. I don't know why people like to walk up on people with their camera on. Yeah. Like, we don't, you know, I mean, just, you don't know, the person you're walking up on don't know what you said before. Yeah. You cut the camera on, we don't know what your, you know, the person don't know what your intentions are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Right, you could have just started off, yeah, I'm about to knock the Rosen out, and then you come up and put, like, he don't know. He's just reacting, sees the camera on, and he don't know what you're trying to do at all. So, I mean, the reaction seems understandable. I mean, but, you know, I'm not reacting. We're used to it, man.
Starting point is 00:10:46 We're used to this type of shit, so it is kind of unexpected, because, you know, people do shit. If they're not harming me or putting their hands on me, I ain't really trying to go to jail or, you know, it seemed like he was trying to get a home.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Posted a video in the Ambulam. Before he did it, he's posting, I'm about to go do home. Posted a video in the ambulance. Before he did it, he's posting, all right, I'm about to go do it. Y'all ready? Here we go. Let's see how it go. Then he get in there.
Starting point is 00:11:12 You know, it's the scuffle. Then it's the after. It seemed like to me he had a plan. I'm going to get me a home today. Like we mentioned on that video that he posted, including a promo for his book, again, which I will not name for those who have social media very questionable interesting title But as a book not one that I would read but not having money will get you doing desperate shit like this
Starting point is 00:11:35 So, you know I'm saying hey people got a hustle the right way don't hustle backwards brother So obviously are you gentlemen famous get a lot of love on the streets. Probably have people coming up to you all the time. But have you ever had fans try to approach you in a way you felt was disrespectful? How did you handle it? I always handle it with grace. Most of the time, people don't know what they do. They just want to express themselves.
Starting point is 00:12:02 You know, even when they cross the line of your own boundaries they still come with the intentions of i'm trying to admire you i fuck with you i'm a fan they just don't know how to express themselves you know and if you've grown to be mature enough to see that and people who are fanatics at the sport at whoever they choose to be their their idols you understand it. It's not... I mean, I dealt with it from a young age. So I was in Carolina trying to eat with my family and they crossing lines and trying to use the bathroom
Starting point is 00:12:32 and they crossing lines. In the bathroom? Man, so when you start seeing it, you start understanding, like, it ain't my problem to fucking try to check them with violence. It's my problem to understand. They just trying to get to me.
Starting point is 00:12:48 They just trying to say what's up. So it different yeah i mean you see it in real life with fans getting super excited like you said don't know how to react see it on social media a lot of fans start talking crazy try to get a reaction out of you then they switch over quick i didn't mean it i was you just want to talk i just want to try to get your attention i had to go overboard with it but let's go to this side of the couch swag You ever had a situation where a fan tried to approach you in a way that you felt was disrespectful um Lately I've been getting a lot because people think they could talk to me like how Gil talk to me I told the gills and the fuck a lot of people up out here And they don't understand our relationship. So they just started talking crazy, thinking it's cool. Fade, fade.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Yeah, I had to tell a couple of them, all right, man, that's Gil. All right, you're not Gil, motherfucker. So, yeah, I almost got jumped, you know, by some Africans because of Gil, Gil comment, you know, it was like, man. They caught you? Caught me. Caught you? Caught me.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. What's up with your friend, man? What's up with your mans, man. They caught you? Caught me. Caught you. Caught me. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. What's up with your friend, man? What's up with your mans, man? Talk to me. We're not in the jungle no more. We in the streets. Where's your man?
Starting point is 00:13:54 Give us this. Change his stance on South Sudan. Been very supportive. We've talked about it, I think, leading up to the Olympics. After that close game. You haven't seen him since, have you? I haven't. I know.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Swag, I think you sent the group chat video of somebody trying to pressure you on our local 24-hour fitness while you were just trying to get your work done or get home to your family. I'm just saying, you can't run up and your passport ain't accurate. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Send them back. Hey, send their asses back. I ain't got no TV. I ain't got to worry about comments. What's up? Nothing's up, Gil. Just enjoying another day in Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Woot Woot.
Starting point is 00:14:37 But have you ever had fans try to approach you in a way you felt was disrespectful? Fans, players, anybody of that nature? No, I've never. When it comes to fans, no. You know, Shida said it. Most fans, you know, it's
Starting point is 00:14:51 this is like one of those things where they're seeing you for the first time and probably never going to see you again. So, you know, they're going to shoot their shot and, you know, autograph, take a picture. Can you say happy birthday to my mom or something like that so you know but I've learned you know since I was little man like these are memories they're gonna
Starting point is 00:15:18 remember you probably won't because you're gonna get a hundred to three thousand of these throughout your career so that's why I usually take the time to do it. As soon as I go outside and leave my house, I'm expecting to have to take autographs. I mean, do autographs, take pictures, get on the phone. So I just do it. I don't really. That type of stuff comes with the territory.
Starting point is 00:15:38 But in DeMar DeRozan's case, again, you're at a fine Japanese restaurant here in Calabasas, just a few miles away from where we record this show, trying to eat some sushi, obviously wallowing in the sorrows of a... Was it night or day? Night. It looked like it was evening. I mean, once he put the phone in and started talking,
Starting point is 00:15:54 obviously you knew he wasn't on violence, because, I mean, violence, he could have just snuck in the back of the head if that's what he was on. So, you know, it's all in real time, you know, but for the most part, I'm not expecting a fan to take off on me. I mean, you know. You never know with you nowadays. Huh?
Starting point is 00:16:13 You done disrespected a lot of motherfuckers. Not the motherfucker that's going to take off on me. Africans, like. Africans looking for a gift. I heard he be up here, man. When he said that, I heard he be up here, man he said that I heard he be up here man I said shit I be up there they not no more
Starting point is 00:16:31 Gil a man with influence in the San Fernando Valley they not working out there no more is they they 24 membership is revoked all you said was Africans? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Girl, unnecessary. Open up a can of worms. Why you block the homie's sip, man? I had to send you the video. I didn't block him. He said somebody blocked him. Not me. Have you ever blocked somebody on social media
Starting point is 00:17:00 and then they have somebody else reach out to you and say, hey, can you tell them to unblock me, please? No, I've never blocked anybody. Yeah, you like the smoke. Yeah, I don't. Yeah. I need you to see
Starting point is 00:17:10 how I'm doing from your main page. I don't need you to create a page. I want you to see it from your main page. Yeah, he gave me some of that advice.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I stopped blocking people. You stopped the blocking? I did. I actually unblocked all of them. You freed them? I freed them. Allowed them back into your did. I actually unblocked all of them. You freed them? I freed them. I need things to
Starting point is 00:17:28 allow my life. I gotta unblock all the blockables, right? You gotta face the fucking camera. You gotta face the fucking fire, right? The pain is right there. Let them motherfuckers talk and watch. Hey! I'm doing better without you. You gotta use that haters motivation.
Starting point is 00:17:44 I embrace all that hate. It keeps me fueled. It keeps me going. It's confused you. You got to use that hate as motivation. I embrace all that hate. It keeps me fueled. It keeps me going. It's confused admiration. You already know. That's all it is. They love you. That's a bar.
Starting point is 00:17:52 That's a bar. Well, let's talk about another situation going down in the sports world briefly. NFL Hall of Famer Shannon Sharp has been accused of sexual assault and battery in a $50 million lawsuit that was filed Sunday in Nevada. Sharp denies the allegations, posted some of the text messages that the woman sent him on his social media yesterday, some very risque stuff. Not
Starting point is 00:18:16 for the faint of heart. Again, if you have social media, you can search and find it out. Today, TMZ dropped an audio recording which allegedly features Sharp threatening to choke the woman in a recorded conversation. I choked the shit out of that bitch. And the attorney coming
Starting point is 00:18:32 from Sharp, Tony Busby, who has a long documented history in situations like this. I believe it was the same dude who tried to come after Jay-Z. Obviously Jay-Z said, I'm not playing. None of that bullshit got him to backtrack, but in this particular situation,
Starting point is 00:18:48 what's your guys' reaction to Shannon Sharp? This comes on the heels of news being reported too that he was searching for a multi-million dollar deal for all of his media content and endeavors. Yeah. 50 million. I said, that's messed up. Once you reach a certain stage, I feel like they gonna start coming.
Starting point is 00:19:10 They coming. So that's when you know you're starting to make it. Did they press legal charges? A civil lawsuit. That's what I'm saying. Filed in Nevada. That's some money. You said it was what? Sexual abuse?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Sexual abuse and battery, I believe. It's sexual assault and battery. Didn't she say $25,000 per cheek? One of the texts that Shannon Sharpe shared. What kind of battery is that? Alleged that. I'm paying $25,000 per cheek. That's what she said?
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah. $25,000 per cheek. The slap per cheek, man. Yeah. I can do what I want with these cheeks. I paid $25,000. In a relationship for nearly two years. It was in a relationship, but it began as a quote-unquote rocky consensual relationship. I don't know what that means.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It started off as that? It wasn't transactional? It began as a rocky consensual relationship, according to the report. It's tripping, man. Is she black or what? Don't matter. For what it's worth, Sharp...
Starting point is 00:20:09 He's got it. It's tricking when you got it. What are you doing? Sharp's attorney said that it's a blatant, cynical attempt to shake... It's a blatant, cynical attempt to shake down Mr. Sharp for millions of dollars. It is filed with lies, distortions, misreputations, and it will not succeed. For sure. Bragging about jets and shit.
Starting point is 00:20:30 I ain't got it. That's why they can't come at me. That's why you do not have it. I got too many kids. But just, I mean, on a broader conversation, obviously you attain a level of celebrity. All the different things. We talk about DeMar, what he was doing with his situation, obviously you attain a level of celebrity. All the different things we talk about. DeMar, what he was doing with his situation.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Now you talk about Shannon Sharp being extremely successful. Worst media game. Hall of Famer football player. Name has been buzzing in the news. Potential business endeavors. And now this lawsuit comes Sunday. I mean, I just question, like, you know, if this was all just a shakedown and she loses, whatever time that he was going to get, if that's a thing or whatever, shouldn't it work the other way, too? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I don't like that. I don't like that about the law. Well, it's a civil lawsuit, so I don't think it's— Well, whatever. Okay, but if she's asking for $50 million and she loses, does she owe 50 million? Send her ass back to the Stone Age? I mean, there has to be some type of protection. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Because once you do this, you know, this is just broad, you know, not necessarily this case. Once you do this, it kind of messes up the person's reputation and name because it's still a splash. So the fact that these are the things that happened, you know, if the person is found innocent, what is the consequences to the other person? Do they just get to say, oh, yeah, my bad, and then they go back into hiding? Yeah. And then they get to just live a regular life while this man has to deal with the damages? Yeah. You know, I don't like that aspect of the law.
Starting point is 00:22:06 And obviously these are just allegations right now. We don't know. What I'm saying is it shouldn't even be allegations until it's actually proven something. Like this is the problem. It's this part. Yeah. Like going to court, it should be like already investigated and already done all the heavy lifting before there's an allegation publicly. Well, you're trying to play it out in the court of public opinion before.
Starting point is 00:22:37 And if it's truly a shakedown, I'm just going to get some bread. So now that it's out there, it doesn't matter if it's true or not. Your name has already been soiled. Doesn't matter if it's true or not your name has already been soiled yeah doesn't matter if it gets proven to be false damage already been done because people have seen that this first portion of a saw similar situation with Jay-z when that happened so even though that Jay-z situation was proven to be wrong then you spend so much money trying to prove your innocence is like goddamn it's probably cheaper just to give them money and that's the reason most of them
Starting point is 00:23:01 do it and that's what happens cheaper to just pay you to leave me alone versus fighting you in court spending two three four million that's the reason most of them do it. And that's what happens. It's cheaper to just pay you to leave me alone versus fighting you in court spending two, three, four million. That's the fucked up part about lawsuits in general. It doesn't really matter who's right or wrong. The legal fees are going to add up. And eventually you just say, I want to make this thing go away even if I didn't do anything wrong because I can't keep paying to prove that I'm right. Yeah, I mean, it's...
Starting point is 00:23:22 The cost ends up being worth it. But... $25Kk per cheek according to... That's crazy. Text messages that Shannon Sharpe posted on his own. It ain't 1.5 million. You know, Skippy. And then three point, and then... I mean, the last video...
Starting point is 00:23:41 He raised the price on it. Posted a video of a conversation they had in that video, a voice that was alleged to be Shannon Sharpe threatened to choke the woman in their conversation. But did he? Hmm? Did he? Not sure if there was actual, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:55 We talked about the Dame Halliburton situation. It's not apples to apples, but in that video, Dame's telling Halliburton, I'm going to kick your ass or, you know, I'm going to whoop your ass. Didn't happen. Just talk, but. But who says they're recording? Usually before.
Starting point is 00:24:10 How do you record? Let's record a conversation. That's scary, bro. That means they're already beating you. Yeah, they beat me. Can't let the word get you mad, man. See, I ain't got to worry about this. I'm here, so.
Starting point is 00:24:23 You're a man of God now. Spoken for. Well, we man of God now, spoken for. Well, we'll keep monitoring the situation as it goes on, but got extremely messy over the past 36, 48 hours with both sides, obviously. They seen a hundred million. Whoa. Woo. Cha-ching.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Thankfully, Gil's Arena does not have it like that. We are a poor, meager, modest show just struggling to get by. Yeah, we're on the stop. Yes, sir. We could barely afford a licensed camera, so, you know, scraping it together to bring you your favorite show every Monday through Thursday. Come over here. But let's shift it over to some playoff basketball talk.
Starting point is 00:24:59 So we knew we were in for a great series after the Nuggets' overtime win over the Clippers in Game 1 this weekend. They followed that up with another great game Monday night. Let's take a look at the highlights if we can, please, Paolo. So we saw two of the all-time greats performing at their best in Kawhi and the Joker. Nikola Jokic knocked a triple-double with 26 points, 12 rebounds, and 10 assists. It marked the 19th playoff triple-double for Joker. That's the third most all-time behind LeBron James and Magic Johnson.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Magic, I believe, 30 playoff triple-doubles in his career, which is objectively absurd. But Jokic played the entire second half of the game, and in addition to the triple-double, he led the Nuggets with seven turnovers while going 6-for-10 from the free-throw line. Jamal Murray had 23 points on 9-of-17 shooting of 42 minutes. After being the X- in game one, Russ had 14 points on 5 of 11 shooting, including 3 of 6 from
Starting point is 00:25:51 deep in 23 minutes of action. But David Alderman stuck with Michael Porter Jr. a little more in this game. So after a lackluster game one that saw him get benched in crunch time, MPJ bounced back with 15 points, 15 rebounds in 33 minutes. But like we said, the story of this game was Kawhi Leonard, who had the hot hand from start to the finish in this one, delivering one of the best pure shooting performances we've seen in the playoffs. Claw dropped 39 points, 15 of 19 shooting from the field, an impressive 79% from the field, along with five assists and two steals.
Starting point is 00:26:24 So since 2000, Kawhi is just the fourth player to score at least 39 points on a shooting percentage that high, joining Devin Booker, Dirk Nowitzki, and Elton Brand, who all had similar playoff performances. So late in the game, Nuggets had a chance to tie Christian Brown, bricked his three. Joker bricked his three as well. Clippers held on to get the three-point win. Who, Christian Brown?
Starting point is 00:26:49 Yeah. A white man in America, Swag Eagle. You're going to press his luck. Brown made some big shots game one. Hit a big three game one in OT. I mean, he was feeling himself a little bit. He was. Yeah, and then obviously Joker, desperation heave.
Starting point is 00:27:05 You said he made some big shots in game one. Hit a big three in game one and over. What the fuck do I got to do in game two? Okay, well, I'm just pointing out that I've been in this situation before, and I've knocked out shots. Oh, okay. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Okay. We got a new coach in here. What are you going to do? Got mad TV in here. So, after the game, Clipper head coach Ty Lue said, this is what Kawhi lives for, getting healthy for the playoffs. We know if we've got a healthy Kawhi, we can win any series. For real.
Starting point is 00:27:33 So I'll start with you, Sha. Did this vintage Kawhi performance change how you view the Clippers going forward in this series? No. Um, no. The Clippers still, they have to worry about Denver not playing their game. And Denver plays their game and everybody's consistent. It's hard to beat them. Here's the difference.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Joker has to have a monster game in order for them to win. He doesn't have a monster game. He has a game he has last night. Everybody has to fill the stat sheet. Can't have Aaron going, not having a double-double. Can't have Brown not scoring over 17 points. Everybody got to be playing well. And that's the problem with Denver now. Mike Malone used to have that consistency in the playoffs. But now that he's not there, like you said, MADtv. You are now watching MADtv. So we don't know what to expect when Joker plays like this and we're like, all right, who's going to be the X Factor, right?
Starting point is 00:28:37 And so if he don't have monster games this series, like we said, Zubat just needs to be in the way. If Zubat can be in the way, James Harden or Kawhi Leonard can step up. Right? So think about it. Kawhi had a monster game. 39 points. James played okay.
Starting point is 00:28:53 He had 18-7 assists. 7 for 17 from the field, 4 for 11. Solid game. 32-11 and 6 in game one. Solid game between both of them is James with 25, Kawhi with about 33. Yeah. 32. That's still
Starting point is 00:29:05 what they're going to have to do to beat Denver, and I think they can. They've still got Ben Simmons, Norm Powell, guys who still haven't really played great, great, great basketball yet. Powell, 12 points game one, 13 points game two. Zubach, double-double on both games. Hunnun's playing well.
Starting point is 00:29:21 They've got a good, solid squad. I just hate for them to fuck it up, just on the sense of getting too confident. You know, I think they should stay consistent. I think Denver need to figure it out because they all, they going crazy. But it should be a good series. I see it going seven. You think it's going to go seven? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's starting to trend and feel like that. Nuggets got the game one win. Clippers bounced back game two. Both games exciting. Went down to the wire. Swaggy, watching game two. Oh, man. I'm just... I got two questions.
Starting point is 00:29:53 If Kawhi was healthy, would he be like top three shooting guards? Is he still top ten as a small forward? Is he a shooting guard or a small forward? Small forward. Is he still top ten as a small forward? Or is he a shooting guard or a small forward? Small forward. Is he still top 10? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:30:08 With the career he? Ever? Right, yeah, yeah. Small forwards, for sure. Probably. And why don't Joker never get the last shot, really? And he's the MVP of the team, of the league. You put Kawhi over George Gervin? Iceman? Iceman the small forward?
Starting point is 00:30:25 I don't remember that. I thought he was more. Well, yeah, right now. Put him over Melo? Talk to me. We talking who? You brought it up. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:30:33 You brought it up. Challenge accepted. That'd be a good battle. KD? Top ten? Those KDs, like two. I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm. That'd be a good battle. KD? Top 10? Those KDs, like two, though. We talked about this recently.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Brian, KD. KD versus playoff Kawhi, but KD. Paul George, Jimmy Butler. He's over them. Over them? Yeah. Larry Bird? No.
Starting point is 00:31:00 No. That's Dominique Wilkins. Yeah, he won. He won. So you go do a stat, we're doing stats. I understand, he won too. That's the bag, I just come out that bag whenever it's uncomfortable. It's uncomfortable, he ain't win. He's gonna be not in front of them.
Starting point is 00:31:17 He's talking about Taylor. He's gonna be not, that's only four people in front of him right now. Scottie Pippen. Kawhi two times- You put Scottie in front of him? Jimmy Pippen, ooh. I would. You wouldn't put George Irving in front of him? No. Scottie Pippen. Kawhi two-time champ, two-time finals MVP. That was. He wouldn't put George Gervin in front of him. No, no, no. I like Iceman,
Starting point is 00:31:29 but... Just talking about small forwards. Two-time champ, two-time finals MVP, two-time defensive player of the year. I mean, I think Kawhi, that's been always the conversation with Kawhi, is just the health. Only played two games last playoffs, but I think was averaging like 34 points per game
Starting point is 00:31:46 in the two games that he played. Paul Pierce, he better than Paul Pierce? I don't know. The truth is the truth. We're talking about top 10 too. You got Mack. We're talking about Mack, Mello, Mack, Mello, KD, Brian. In his small time of playing,
Starting point is 00:32:03 he done more though. Well, we're not talking about done or doing more. We're talking about, that's why I said PG and Jimmy Butler. You're like, oh, yeah, he better than them. Oh, yeah, he is. I think George Gervin doesn't get a lot of love because of the ABA career. But George Gervin's like smaller than me. But coming to the NBA.
Starting point is 00:32:21 He's like 6'4", 6'5". George Gervin is like 6'10". Hell no. Really? Let me look it up. I think like 6'4", 6'5". You know what I mean? George Gervin is like 6'10". Hell nah. Is he? Let me look it up. I think like 6'8", 6'9". 6'9"? If I'm not mistaken.
Starting point is 00:32:31 But let me... George Gervin. 6'7". 6'3". That's what I'm talking about. Shit! Fuck. 6'7".
Starting point is 00:32:39 Is he tall? 6'7". He's your height. Nigga, you see him... I know, but that's why I think I'm taller than him. That's why. I feel like I'm... well, he probably strong cuz he older and shit so George Gervin smooth though he smooth Small forwards though man I don't know man. Kawhi cool though. He solid.
Starting point is 00:32:56 They got Rick Barry. George Gervin spent his first five seasons in the ABA. He gotta be top ten But are you only saying that just because of the baggage he carrying? You're talking about short without the bags, man. We shopping when we get here. He done it, though. Shop when you get here. What's up?
Starting point is 00:33:16 Check up. Ball up top. There's only two people that had a better playoff run. There's only one person that had a better championship run than Kawhi, and that's Dirk Levinsky. Can he duplicate this performance more than once this year in the playoffs? That's what it's going to take, but 39 on 15 and 19 shooting, five assists. He had 30 tonight before. Getting to his spots.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Middy was looking. He had 30 tonight before? 22, I believe. 22. Oh. So you off, too. Let me. Still has 60 in two games. Yeah, solid. All right. I believe 22. Oh see you off to Let me still have 16 today
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah, 22 But seven turnovers now last year 22 three steals in game one 39 five assists two steals in a block. You're talking about we talking about the Lakers, right? Huh? No, I think we be out there the Huh? Who look like the MVP out there? Is it Dirk? I mean, is it Joker? Is it Kawhi? Right now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:11 It's 1-1. It is. It's 1-1. Joker's numbers the first game. He almost had a triple-double in game one. He had a triple-double last night. He had a triple-double last night. It was one rebound shot of a triple-double.
Starting point is 00:34:23 What was his point total? I'll give it to guarantee right now he had 30 29 12 and 9 rebounds 29 12 assists 9 rebounds. Okay three steals 50% from the field right now. He's not taking that last shot though He got brown and what making sure they making sure he don't take the last shot though. You don't want to take no He won't today making sure he don't coach the design that for him He don't want to take. No, he won't today. Making sure he don't take. The coach should design that for him. So good. You said you had a problem with Christian Brown taking that last year. Brown only had five points in the game. Like I said, hit the big three in overtime. That was the question? Game one.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So Nuggets last played down three to try and tie the game. Who should be shooting that shot? Paul Murray, the one what has been doing it? Yeah Brown was over to last night from the three-point line. He only took two I Don't like him shooting that shit Put that little shit away young fella stop shooting that little shit away boy pump make it MF or no more. Yeah, I'm sagging all the way under the rim on that shit sag Little MF-er no more. Shit, I'm sagging all the way under the rim on that shit. Sag. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:35:28 That shit nasty, man. Good luck, though. That's nasty. Good luck. Yeah. And Gil, just looking, we were watching that game playback during our watch party. What difference did you see from both teams from game one to game two?
Starting point is 00:35:44 Both? It seems like both teams got one player coming off the bench that they can rely on. Other than that, you know, they got to rely on their starters for the most part. You know, with Denver, you got Westbrook. You know, if he struggles, then that's really it. They don't have the shooting that they need to keep everybody honest. Christian Brown, obviously, you're going to let him shoot. You're going to let Peyton Watson shoot. You're going to let Westbrook shoot.
Starting point is 00:36:25 You're going to let Gordon shoot threes know, threes if they're open. You know, you're going to slow rotate. You know, from there, it's just a bunch of back doors. So, you know, mostly now you're just focusing on Murray and Jokic. And if, you know, MPJ is playing well, he's playing well. Clippers, they haven't actually played well. Clippers, they haven't actually played well. James Harden didn't get to the free throw line yesterday.
Starting point is 00:36:53 It seemed like he was not getting calls. He wasn't getting calls. It feels like his reputation as a quote-unquote foul bait or foul merchant. He realized he wasn't getting it early so he stopped trying to foul bait. They hit pure shots.
Starting point is 00:37:07 They've been calling it even, though. I mean, they've been calling it, like, old-school playoff, like, no, they ain't calling shit. Harden, no free throws, though, in game two. So the fact that they still won and he wasn't putting people in foul trouble, you know, Kawhi was, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:21 they just hit pure shots, didn't shoot the ball very well as a group, and they pulled out this win, you know, they just hit pure shots, didn't shoot the ball very well as a group, and they pulled out this win. You know, when they get back here and, you know, the whistle favors them a little bit, you know, I think they're probably going to be favored to win game three. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:40 So let's talk Kawhi a little bit more. Y'all got into it lightly, but I know you guys don't like what ifs, but let's allow ourselves to think about this for a moment. So Kawhi already put together a Hall of Fame career. That's not disputable, but that career has been marred by injuries. He's missed over 300 regular season games, more than 20 playoff games during his 13-year career, despite all that two-time champ, two-time final MVP,
Starting point is 00:38:04 two-time defensive player of the year. And, you know, a guy that has gotten knocked a lot recently during his time with the Clippers for injuries. Obviously only played two games in the playoffs. Last season played two games so far. This season comes through and delivers with this 39-point performance after missing
Starting point is 00:38:19 I think something like, what, 45 games this season including the first 34 to start the season. There was a lot of concern. We talked a lot about it on the couch throughout the year. Yeah, people wrote them off. Throughout the year, like, you know, can Kawhi be healthy? He's appeared to be healthy in these first two games. But what does Kawhi's career look like without injuries?
Starting point is 00:38:40 Man, he might be giving Bron and stuff around for their money to me. You feel like he would be on that level? For sure. Top two or three top player in this generation? He'd be probably right there underneath me. Without injuries. He'd be stoked. Your career without injuries comparable You stuck? Your career without injuries
Starting point is 00:39:07 comparable to Kawhi? Top two all time. You think Kawhi top two all time? He's going to be three, I say. He's going to be right underneath me. Number three. Without injuries, I think he played 733 career regular season games.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Like I said, missed over 300. You're being here too, though. He's33 career regular season games. Like I said, missed over 300. Gil, you'll be in there too, though. He's missed a lot of games. Yeah. Where do you think you'll be, Gil? I have no idea. I wish I would have played with a healthy team. Missed the entire 21-22 season.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I would have been. MVP, close MVP, runner-up MVP. He was a runner-up? Yeah, in what? Toronto? 2015-16? Yeah. San Antonio? close MVP runner up MVP he was a runner up yeah and what Toronto 2015-16 San Antonio then the second
Starting point is 00:39:50 third the year after yeah oh that was before the injury right that year right been top 10 five times
Starting point is 00:40:00 yeah MVP voting I mean it's a big it's gonna be a big what if when he's finished. You know, it's not going to, you know, the history books is not going to, you know, favor, you know, what he really was. Yeah. Remember that 2016, obviously.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yeah. So. Inkle injury. When he's played, he's, you know, been that dude. So, you know, it's one of those things where Hoopers is going to remember who he was and how good he was. History books won't show it. You guys, being former Hoopers, just watching Kawhi,
Starting point is 00:40:35 his ability to get to his spots. He can shoot the fucking ball. So methodical. Whatever's going on. His shot is pure. When you're talking about just pure shooting,
Starting point is 00:40:51 I don't think anybody understands how good his shooting is, how great his shooting is. I want to see him in a three-point contest. I really want to see him in a three-point. It's one of those things where... It's too mechanical.
Starting point is 00:41:07 I don't give a fuck what it is. That shit just... When he lets it go, you be like, oh, that's... It's right here. He looks like a dude who plays with ankle weights on. Yeah, it's so white. But he get it done, man. The mechanical Jordan, man. It's the robot Jordan.
Starting point is 00:41:24 They made him. AI. Jordan. They made him AI. AI. The robot. Yeah. Yeah, just. And he plays both sides, man. It's crazy, yeah. And then for all three of y'all's players who have dealt with injuries in your career,
Starting point is 00:41:38 obviously like we talked about the knock and criticism around Kawhi, can he stay healthy? We're seeing a healthy Kawhi so far in this playoff series. I would love to see him stay healthy all through this whole run. And if they beat Denver, I got a question. That changes things, I think. Is durability a part of the criteria? In terms of what?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Go debate or evaluate? All that shit. Availability. Durability. Does that count? Yeah. So if that counts, right? Brian, 22 years. Longevity, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:21 No crazy injuries. Nothing like that, right? Shouldn't we hold those who get injured to a certain standard to take care of their body? Should it be a penalty if it's not a freak injury? But his came from, what we call it, his foot under him. Who? When they played the Warriors. We shot the three and Zaza slid under his ankle.
Starting point is 00:42:49 That wasn't, you're talking about Kawhi, right? Yeah. That wasn't the quad shit that we never found out what it was. He was out for two years with a quad injury. But that's where it came from though. Do we know? We'll never know. MVP runner Yeah. We'll never know.
Starting point is 00:43:05 MVP runner-up. We'll never know. But to your point, Sean, by all reports, Kawhi, dude, who lives in the gym. Yeah. And you have guys like that, guys like Kobe, right, who work so hard that it leads to kind of some of those devastating injuries just from. Kobe was always available. Yeah, that one. Towards the end of his career.
Starting point is 00:43:24 And that was because of the shoes. It ain't because he was training wrong or none of that. It's just weird to me that these guys do stay injured. You know, if it's not a freak injury or it's not a chronic injury, something that you just gotta deal with.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Gotta be available. You should be penalized for not being available. Even Paul George, what happened to his knee was crazy in the Olympics. The high bridge? Oh, the Olympics shit, yeah. But he bounced back. But that's rare to bounce back when your whole thing is gone. Knee was tore off.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Shit. So John Livenston bounced back. After two years, though. So using that logic. Never missed another mid-range. For the rest of his career. But using that logic, a guy like KD, obviously suffers with torn Achilles,
Starting point is 00:44:09 has come back and put up numbers comparable in some might say even better before the injury. When we see how devastating an injury like that can be to players' careers, especially at this point and stage in his career. Like guys like Embiid and little knick-knack Bradley Bill for, what, 30 games, 15 games. And, like, those little things were like, yo, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Like, even the knick-knack, you playing at 60%. That's warrior shit. But if you hurt, you hurt. If you're injured, you're injured. Go heal up. But that damn play, be available. If you're injured, you're injured. Go heal up. But that damn play, be available. Can't be asking for the pie. You don't eat the meal, you're showing up for dessert and shit.
Starting point is 00:44:55 So back to Kawhi, 15 and 19 in that game, only had one dunk. Everything else, I'm just saying, one dunk layup in that game, everything else, threes, middies, getting to his spot. When you talk about his ability to score on a basketball court, how impressive is that to y'all? I mean, so is for shooting. I mean, you know, like, his mid-range is fucking 99-100, right? It seems like, you know, really, there's not a lot of people who can affect his, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:32 his shot once he decides to release it. It's all fingertip and touch, you know. I mean, you know, it doesn't look pretty. His game doesn't look pretty. It's not a sexy game, right? It is robotic. It does look like it hurts, right? I mean, maybe not pretty to the average fan. No, it's not pretty to nobody.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I don't give a fuck who he is. It's not pretty. It's just all robotic, between the legs, how he gets to it, how he starts. The only thing that looks pretty is when it goes in. You're like, God damn. You know, so the fact that. You look like Biff Harden. You know, the fact that, you know, he continually shows that this is what he does.
Starting point is 00:46:20 You know, Kawhi is Kawhi. You can't judge him against anybody else because his game is just different. He gets it done, and it's the product. God damn it, you say you want to ace? Don't ask me how I got to it. God damn it, here it is. And that's his game.
Starting point is 00:46:40 You know, he delivers every time he does step on that court. Yeah, man. his game and you know he delivers every time he does step on that court yeah man Kawhi top 10 small forwards all time straight out of LA he got two Paul Pierce and Kawhi. Maybe three, shit. In the Empire, that counts?
Starting point is 00:47:15 We let it count. We let it count. All right, Riverside is- We don't go that way, but- It's not my cup of tea. I'm not going to lie. Said he was all right the first time, man. Hmm? Said Kawhi was all right the first time.
Starting point is 00:47:31 He cool, man. Let it go. He cool? He put in your joke, girl. You know, your MVP. Ain't that your MVP? Where was that at? He only has 14,000.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Triple-double. Damn. Huh? I said, he only has 14,000 points? Jesus Christ. Yeah, you're talking about the game. Yeah, you're talking about the game. What was that at? He only has 14. Triple-double. Damn. Huh? I said, he only has 14,000 points? Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Yeah, you just talk about the games missed. I think more than four seasons worth of games. Yeah. He's done a lot in a short period of time. I can tell you that. Let's get back to the series quickly. So Clippers flipped home court on the Nuggets in the series. Clips had 20 turnovers in their game, one loss. Saturday, Kawhi tying his career worst with seven of them.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Nuggets had 20 turnovers in game two. We yoked at your county for seven of those. Now the series has the L.A. games three and four. Clips have seen a significant increase in their home court advantage in their first season playing at the Intuit Dome. So, Shot, how confident are you in the Nuggets' chances to win a game at the Intuit Dome? Like I said before, it's all about their strategy, how they approach the game, you know, defensively, because I feel like you don't have to adjust to the Clippers right now.
Starting point is 00:48:42 I think they show up and they play the game how you're gonna defend them And I think for the Nuggets to steal one Russ is gonna have to play out of his mind. I think And PJ is gonna have to show up, you know, 15 boards was cool I like his assertiveness on the glass because I've always liked that about him He's big enough to go out there and get get a double-double But he got to stop settling for them th there and get a double-double, but he got to stop settling for them threes and get to the line more. I think they could steal one, man.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Just play. Get back to your basics. Jamal Murray need the ball in the crunch time. Oh, man. Clippers in five. Clippers. Maybe six if they want to do six, but if they want to win back in L.A., you know.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Clippers are five, maybe six. Yeah, I don't see it going past that. And what gives you that confidence? If it does, that's me. You know, it's probably just one of them Clipper, you know, that juju around the Clippers. But the way they playing, they're going to take turns. Next game is going to be James Harden back at home.
Starting point is 00:49:51 They got too much firepower for Demmer. You feel like the Nuggets are overmatched with the Clippers' firepower. We know what Jokic has to do every game just for them to be competitive. Kawhi can have an off night. James can pick up the slack. James can have to be competitive. Kawhi can have an off night. James can pick up the slack. James can have an off night. Kawhi can pick up the slack. Zubac, double-double machine.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Norr Powell still hasn't really done much in this series. Four points game, 113 game, two. Wait till he get his 20. 20. I... It just seems like I don't think Denver actually has enough anymore. Yeah. You said that last night on the playback, where it doesn't look like that championship squad of old. But what's missing other than KCP, or how essential was KCP as a...
Starting point is 00:50:41 Probably just, they probably just don't get along anymore like that. Yeah. To the point it's affecting the game because, you know, the fact that Clippers did have 20 turnovers, didn't get to the free throw line a lot. And that game still went to overtime. Went to overtime.
Starting point is 00:50:58 You know, Jokic had 30-12-9. Gordon had 25. Murray had 21. Westbrook had 15 off the bench. They won in overtime. But MPJ only, I think, three points in that game. You're not going to have... The whole starting five is not going to have
Starting point is 00:51:15 double-digit score, so it's just one person that's not going to play well. For the most part, they're playing well as a team and they're barely winning. To win by two with such a great performance across the board and, you know, you lose last night and Clippers didn't play very well. It kind of shows when if James Harden and Kawhi is kicking in, they probably might whoop that ass
Starting point is 00:51:51 in one of these games. If Jokic don't have a triple-double and he has a bad game, it just doesn't seem like they're going to be good enough to pull out the series. This is a struggle series for them. You said Clippers didn't play that great in game two, but you feel like did the Nuggets play that well in game two?
Starting point is 00:52:10 You talk about 20 turnovers. So is there optimism from them? Like, we played like shit. We only lost this game by three. Yeah, they played like shit. It's not like Clippers played great. You got one player that played great. Everybody else is mediocre. Know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:34 13 for 34 from the three. Took 10 free throws. What is it? 12? I got a question. Zubac, the only guy played, right? The only big that played for the Clippers, he played 40 minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:50 But Ben Simmons coming in. The tallest player other than him is Ben, right? Yeah. That's their backup five. Now, this says a lot about coaching. Well, we ain't got Zubac in foul trouble in the first two minutes, three minutes of the game to make them adjust their whole defensive strategy because it's surrounded around Zubox. Then you got those guys that's playing 15-plus minutes,
Starting point is 00:53:16 Bogdanovich, Batum, Derrick Jones Jr., with Ben Simmons moving around. You look at the bench performances. 14 points from the Clippers bench in that game. Pickett, Watson, and DeAndre Jordan is not going to get, like you said, that's just not the firepower they used to have coming off to actually compete in the playoffs. They're not going to last.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And that's the whole thing. Adelman played Jokic's entire second half as an adjustment, but knew he had a two-day break before their next game so he could lean on him more. But it kind of started to show late in that game. I mean, both. It just shows both. They're relying on their starters to do all the heavy lifting.
Starting point is 00:53:57 And if Westbrook can do something that can shift, you know, the bench performances other than that, man, it just seems like, you know, four out of the five starters, whoever the best is on either side is going to pull out the series because it's going down to the wire. And do you have more faith in Joker or more faith in Kawhi, I guess, as the series goes on, to be able to execute that. Right now,
Starting point is 00:54:27 it seems like the Clippers, as a group, is a little more in sync than, you know, Denver is. Just as a unit. More reliable pieces. Coaching and anything, too. All that.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Last night, they kept Brown in and took Westbrook out for a little bit. I was shocked because him and Westbrook and MPJ was balling at that time. It'll take two primary defenders to neutralize both James and Kawhi, which they do not have. And then after that,
Starting point is 00:55:06 you got to deal with Norm Powell saying, all right, I got it. I got it from here. Y'all got him tired. And then you're like, all right, well. It seems like Norm could be the X factor for this Clippers side. Bogdanovich would essentially be that because they got a QN on Norm being that X factor. So he's like, we can neutralize him.
Starting point is 00:55:27 They got Bob Donovan that will come out of nowhere. He's going to be 5-5 in game two. But I'm saying between those two guys, they still haven't started clicking. He like the Euro J.R. Smith. He like J.R. He will get hot when you don't want him to get hot. They got a squad. Boggy, boggy.
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Starting point is 00:56:45 Okay, just make sure we got the information correct. So let's head over to Eastern Conference. So after learning that Isaiah Stewart would be out for game two, Knicks fans were optimistic that they would be in the driver's seat. Let's take a look at some highlights because that optimism would not last as the Pistons led for most of this game. Cade Cunningham looked like a star out there, scoring 33 points on 11 for 21 shooting in 42 minutes. He also got at the free throw line 12 times, which we'll discuss more a little later.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Cade also brought in 12 rebounds, making him the first Pistons player to put up at least 30 points and 10 rebounds in a playoff game since Chauncey Billups in 2004 against the Nets in their second round series. So other key contributors for the Pistons included Jalen Duren, who had a double-double with 12 points and 13 boards, and Tobias Harris, who had 15 points and 13 rebounds. But the biggest non-cade player for Detroit was Dennis Schroeder, who dropped 20 off the bench and made the biggest shot of the game. So for the Knicks, Jalen Brunson
Starting point is 00:57:45 led the way with 37 points and 7 assists. Mikael Bridges had 19 points but struggled from three. He was 3 for 11. No other Knicks player scored more than 10 points. Carl Anthony Towns went scoreless in the second half, which we'll dive into
Starting point is 00:58:01 shortly. Then Cat and OG both had 10 in the game after having 23 apiece in game one. In the second half, which we will dive into shortly. I think Cat and OG both had 10 in the game after having 23 apiece in game one. In the fourth quarter, the Knicks made a run from down as much 13 points to tie the game. So it was looking like a repeat of game one for a moment there.
Starting point is 00:58:17 But then Detroit held them off thanks to a clutch three from Dennis Schroeder with 55 seconds left. So for the Pistons' first playoff win since 2008, they snapped a 15-game playoff losing streak. The longest such in NBA history. 2008. Swept three times in that time frame.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Lost game one as well. That's the longest in NBA history? That is the longest playoff losing streak. 15-game playoff losing streak. Damn. So 2008, I believe they lost two games to end that series. Got swept three times.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Damn. Got swept three times and then lost game one. So they had lost 15 straight before getting this big win in the Garden. Take home court advantage by stealing game two Little shot with change for the Pistons in game two game two or the whole season
Starting point is 00:59:16 Game to the season see they just they just rolling right now. I think JB got them guys believe in. And I think it's a testament to his growth as a coach. I wasn't always too fond of JB. He know why. He knows why? Do you want to share it? No, no, because it's not important.
Starting point is 00:59:38 It ain't personal. It ain't personal. But he's grown to understand he's always been a player's kind of guy, player coach type of guy. So he understands what the guy. Yeah. JB, yeah. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:59:51 So he was the assistant. You know what I'm saying? He always used to fuck with the guys. So he understands those young guys, what they like, what they want to do. Players coaching. Yes. Him and Mosley, Jamal, those are the two guys who can shape the league as far as understanding players and what they need, what sets the run.
Starting point is 01:00:10 They're not necessarily the IQ guys of the game because they didn't play. Yeah. Right? But they can set you up. You know, JB's dad was a legend. Yeah, he'd been around the game a long time. You know, he's got a good legacy play with himself right now. But I like Detroit's, their
Starting point is 01:00:25 grit. It's getting very reminiscent of 0-4. All they really need is a big that can score, though. I think that's what they're missing. I told y'all about Cade already. Cade is already doing what he's doing. He's a little Grant Hill out there.
Starting point is 01:00:41 They've been Grant. They got their Grant. So I like everything Detroit doing. If I could pick two new teams, it'd be Houston and Detroit. So you would roll with the... If it was a fifth, but you would roll with the Rockets if you could pick... Or Detroit. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:57 One of the two. And they both got the twins on there. And I fuck with both of them twins. Shout out to Eamon and Asar Thompson out there. swagging your opinion We'll change for the Pistons in game two and there went over the Knicks in the garden to tie the series up Dennis Schroeder Hmm, he's capable to take over games. You know when you got a player like that coming off the bench. I Think he just get a bad rep for what happened during this contract, but
Starting point is 01:01:25 He always been like a starter in his league Solid and solid he started off the year. We're averaging 20 with the Brooklyn wouldn't that's they obviously got traded to the Warriors They got traded again got traded again, you know, I Don't know what happened with the Warriors. That was See you curtain. I don't think he wanted to be there and he don't want what happened with the Warriors. Steve Curtin. I don't think he wanted to be there. He don't want to be there? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:48 I don't think he wanted to be there. He didn't like that shit. But. Pass the Steph every time down type shit. This is Steph Curry. Breaking through the ball count. That wasn't his style. Moving all around.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Coming off screens and shit. Happened to pass. He's tradition. Kyle Lowry type. Yep. He's a Kyle Lowry tight without the all-star so this kid when you got that back up and somebody you could rely on that's Been in situations like this. I feel like
Starting point is 01:02:15 The Lakers messed around to play with him too much to life Solid we needed them brungle back half the season Talked about them then brungle back. So you see him doing what he's doing. I hope we keep it up and Yeah, they gonna be tough. They gonna be tough So give us a difference in your opinion with the Pistons game one versus game two game one obviously at that eight-point lead in the fourth quarter Knicks going to 21-0 run to win that one. Had a lead in the fourth this game, too.
Starting point is 01:02:49 Obviously, Knicks came storming back, tied it up. But game one, you know, it's just like any game one. You know, sometimes, you know, your nerves get the best of you. And, you know, they look like they were, you know, young. And, you know, once they shook off the guard in that first game, it seemed like they were more confident as a whole group. You know, Cade settled down and, you know, he's doing what his game has been saying all season, you know.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Could win. Most improve. But he shows he's an all-star, all-NBA player. They're going to make you all-NBA team this year. He literally plays like he's a vet. And the fact that he does have Dennis Schroeder coming off, who is a vet, who
Starting point is 01:03:41 won FIBA championship. Right? So we know who he is. From there, won FIBA championship. Right? So we know who he is, and from there, everyone is following their line. I think when it comes to the Knicks, they are the veteran team, but it actually looks like they still don't know what they're doing, for the most part. You know, when you talk about Mikael Bridges saying that, you know, they might need a break and it's like, for who?
Starting point is 01:04:13 Who do you have? Like, I think the bench outscored them 35 to 8 yesterday. You know, so you don't have anybody coming off the bench that's worth putting in a game. A little bit. Deuce is the only one. No, no, because you can't do that to – Campaign only plays four minutes. No, Cam.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Yeah, Cam needs to play. But they're the same player. That's what I'm saying. That messes somebody up, though. Yeah, it does. The game before you have, what, 17 or 20? Then you only play four minutes the next game. Campaign 11 in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Game one, 14 points in that game. Only played four minutes. Game two, didn't take a shot. But you need to take him. You want to take him off of Brunson? No. Okay, what was the difference? What was the difference in the first game?
Starting point is 01:04:58 What was the difference? Was it defense or was it scoring? So, Brunson, 44 minutes in game two. What's the name that got in foul trouble? Game one? Yeah. Heart. And so you had to go to the bench.
Starting point is 01:05:13 And you went to McBride. But Josh didn't get hurt. He didn't get in foul trouble, so it's... Okay, so you're saying that they got campaigned. 44 minutes, Gil? Brunson, 44 minutes game two. 44 minutes is crazy. You got to sub your point guard out for sure.
Starting point is 01:05:29 I'm just saying. You're taking a break somewhere during that game. Appeared to tweak his ankle a little in game one. That's Kip. That's what I said. Kip's got no confidence. Yeah. Think about if I'm a point.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I just had how many points? 14 points game one. I had 14 points that were instrumental to us winning the game. Yes. I'm actually preparing to go back in the game for game two. Way confident. Yeah, like, yeah. I know.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Hey, I'm going to get 20 this time. Y'all thought that was. And then you see the court in three minutes. What? That's crazy. Oh, you fucking up everything for me at this point. That's crazy. So how far has Tibbs been?
Starting point is 01:06:06 Yeah. How far has Tibbs gone in the playoffs? He came so far. You went to conference finals with Chicago? No, second. Was that second round? When they played Miami. They lost to Miami in conference finals, right?
Starting point is 01:06:23 Let me see. What? 2011? I don't know what round that was, but I remember that. Yeah, that's when he did the dunk and all that. He was killing me. I mean, D. Rose got hurt, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Yeah, but conference finals with the Bulls, if I'm not mistaken. With the Bulls. So, Tibbs, you know, he has to have a certain type of team where he trusts point guard and can sub out. Because I think the team that he had then, it was D. Rose, Kirk Heinrich, Chris Duhon, Wild Dang, all those guys. He trusted all those guys.
Starting point is 01:06:56 2011, you're right. 2011. Yeah. I mean, at this point, you've got the Knicks. You've got three college guys who you know play. Well, two college guys. Well, three. Three college guys play together. You've got another college guys who you know play, well, two college guys, well, three. Three college guys play together.
Starting point is 01:07:06 You got another college guy who understand championship shit. The Cat won a championship with AD, right? I mean, Carl Anthony Towns won a national championship on AD. Or he just went number one, I can't remember. But you know, Cat got pedigree too. Yeah. But it's one of those things where you can't overplay them. And then I played campaign. I don't think Cat knocked Cat.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Did not. But did get played. Did get played. SEC freshman of the year. Yeah, freshman of the year. Second team All-American 2015. Yeah, T.O.'s going to have to figure it out. He got to figure it out. He not doing it the way it's going to help in the long run.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Did Mitchell Robinson play a lot? Mm-hmm. Over 25 minutes? He played 20 minutes. But speaking of Tibbs, Tibbs was not happy with how the game was called, particularly for his captain, Jalen Brunson. Here's what he said after the game last night. He assessed what you saw from Jalen tonight.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Yeah, I was saying, you know, like he battled like crazy. You know, there was a physicality. You know, like I want to take a look at, you know, obviously huge discrepancy in free throws. Huge, huge. So I got to take a look at that, right? So, you know, I don't understand, you know, how on one side, you know, you talk about direct line drives.
Starting point is 01:08:30 The guy's getting fouled and it's not being called. Right? So, and look, I really don't give a crap how they call the game as long as it's consistent on both sides. So if Cunningham's driving and there's marginal contact and he's getting to the line, then Jalen deserves to be getting to the line. It's really that simple. So, in the interest of fairness, Piston shot 34 free throws to 19 for the Knicks.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Brunson shot 11 free throws compared to 12 for Cade. So how do you think Tibbs' criticism official will impact the series going forward? Huh? 12 and 11. 34 to 19, though. No, he said Cade and Brunson, and it was one more free throw over, so he's wrong, so he really do need to look at the film and see what happened.
Starting point is 01:09:22 The fact that their small guy is the guy that generates all the free throws obviously because he drives and likes to bump you know they can't tell if he's if he's creating a contact or if he's getting hit so he's going to be at a disadvantage like he always has been you know um you know their problem was cat yeah You wasn't smart enough to realize that, yeah, Brunson has an advantage, but he doesn't have an advantage. Right? You're the small guy on there playing against bigger guys. Like, the real advantage is Cat.
Starting point is 01:09:55 So, the fact that you do ice him out in the whole second half, like, you know, you didn't realize he wasn't getting the ball, like, for the last five minutes. It was basically iso ball. It wasn't two last five minutes. It was basically isoball. It wasn't two-man game. It was basically Brunson gets the ball, and you have bigger guards guarding him. So it's, you know, he's capable of hitting those shots, but, you know, for the most part, he wasn't.
Starting point is 01:10:19 So you talked about Cat. Cat only had 10 points in the game, 23, I believe, in game one. So a surprising stat on Cat, especially since Isaiah Stewart was inactive last night. This is from Knicks reporter Fred Katz of The Athletic. So Carl Anthony Towns did not score in the second half, took his last shot of the game with 5.20 to go in the third quarter, played all 12 minutes of the fourth quarter,
Starting point is 01:10:41 did not get a shot during that time. So basically went 17 minutes of game action between the third and fourth quarter. Welcome to the corner, nigga. Nah, nah, nah. You know what it is? It's game recognition, man. It's two stars, right? And he took a back seat because Brunson was going to be aggressive
Starting point is 01:11:03 because he wasn't getting calls. If you go back back and watch the game Brunson had a ball a lot of the time so he already in his mind like the energy of the crowd we're trying to keep the crowd engaged I got us he feels he got a score every time down but Brunson did the Batman should have went to the back for a minute. Got his cape. That was Cat time to get the ball. But guess who out there with him? Some dogs. There's some dogs out there. And if you think about Cat, if he don't start out hot and he ain't got the confidence,
Starting point is 01:11:38 like he got it going against one of them, you got three of them. Isaiah wasn't there. The dude Reed, he weak side beating that shit too. So he's like, you got two motherfuckers down there that's trying to take you out. So if he don't got no lather going in the first half
Starting point is 01:11:56 and get in the second half, he don't shoot at all. It's because they barking at him. Hey, you better not touch that bitch. He turned into a cat. Yeah, he turned right into, he curled up. I thought it was a three. I don't know, he was a lion at the beginning of the game. It was five for seven.
Starting point is 01:12:12 And that's how he told you to keep going to him. Keep going to him. He was in just bodega closed. Man. They don't run no actions. No easy actions. Post to post. Block to block. He get an easy shot, man. How much is that on Katho for not demanding the ball?
Starting point is 01:12:29 You're going 17 minutes a game. Who he demanding the ball from? Whoever. Who has the ball? The king of New York. Hey, man, give me that ball. Hey, man, move, man. Come set the screen and move out the way.
Starting point is 01:12:40 They even do pick and roll? I don't know where. They were being taught basketball, but this type of basketball where you can go this long without shooting. Yeah, that's crazy. Not touching the ball. Not being even available.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Yeah, that's crazy. You know this motherfucker's left-handed. Yeah. And he wants to go left. And if he do go right, he want to do the bump, fade left. I'm running through all his plays. Yep.
Starting point is 01:13:07 You don't give me this guy that ball. You know what I mean? You ain't going to take 27 shots and I haven't. No, I'm going to run through. Like, you're supposed to know your players better than everything. I'm supposed to know when Jalen Brunson has got that shit in his eye. Like, oh, okay. He about to shoot this shit.
Starting point is 01:13:21 He about to shoot a lot. So, for the most part, you're supposed to understand how to play this game. Like, you know he's coming in the lane. He's going to sit there and flash right in front of them. Hey! So, Pat, after the game was asked about having zero field goal attempts in the fourth quarter, he said, just trying to have the game do what it does, just executing what we talked about. Thought we got some great looks.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Some great looks, especially when we fought back in that game. That's exactly what it does just executing what we talked about thought we got some great looks some great looks especially when we fought back in that game but that's exactly what it is he was he was just running the plays running the plays and he's sitting out there and this is what i believe this generation is comfortable running up and down the floor not touching the ball five six possessions oh no he had it over there they just just doing their thing. Bro, we need time and score. Look at the time and score. Bro, we can't go four possessions and not score. And we're not getting no stops. They just, we're on a 3-0 run.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Bro, we need you. It's game recognition. I need to get the ball. Let's get to the free throw line or let's get a foul or something. Stop the momentum. Brunson can't do it with just jacking up shots. That pressure of being in the garden compared to Minnesota is different. Way different.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Man, fuck that man. The man had five for seven. He was hot. He was on fire. He was hot. So what's the other reason? I counted my money last night. What's the other reason?
Starting point is 01:14:41 I picked him for 17.5. He had 10 quick ones. 10 quick ones. He just sat down. I thought by the third quarter still said, because he had it in the first, by the third quarter still said 10. I had to refresh. Oh, they fucked up in the back. Nah, ain't no way.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Oh, he must have got hurt. No, I'm saying, what's the other reason then? I see him out there playing fucking duck, duck, goose. Like, what he said. He just out there running plays? He's just running a play. I'm just saying, dude, what we talking about? I see my dear playing fucking duck duck goose like what he said You just sit there waiting for the ball like you know, and I know that's an excuse for a player that don't want to actually break the offense Everybody I might just but if you're cat making the bread that you're making, is that a mentality that you're having?
Starting point is 01:15:26 No. At some point. We're in the middle of executing a play, and you run and cut down the middle of the lane, and we don't give it to you. You just fucked up the whole play. What's the play? Give it to Brunson.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Brunson do what you do? Exactly. Or Bridges. Or Bridges coming around on the doubles. Whatever it is, it's not for you, cat. He's not coming out the gate. I don't get it, man. You remember when we do a pick and roll and you don't do the actual pick? You just don't do it.
Starting point is 01:15:49 I always really said it, so the motherfucker just fight over it. You got to give me the ball. Facts. Don't even say it. That's a lie. I didn't say it. Shut the pick down. All right, man.
Starting point is 01:15:59 It was a slip. I was going to miss it. I was going to miss it. And then post up. God damn it. You ain't open to shooting this shit. My bad. My bad. Like, I don't know what shoot this shit. My bad, my bad.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Like, I don't know what basketball it is. You need to start watching some selfish players. And that's all I'm saying. At some point, this cat needs to be selfish. Give me the rock. I ain't taking a shot. Yeah, I know. The KG shit is, hey, man, bring your motherfucking ass down here.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Turn off this. Throw it down here. Yeah. Turn off me. Hey, listen. Fuck that coat, man. Listen, man. Hey, listen. Brunson, come. Josh, come turn off me. throw it down here yeah turn off me hey listen fuck that coat man listen hey listen brunson come josh come turn off me throw it in here cut off the baseline i'm going to work down here yeah it looked like it looked like he just got there let's let's say that it looked
Starting point is 01:16:37 like when brunson got back everybody felt back in line all right this is last year play y'all know exactly how we did this last year playoffs and god damn it uh whoever was is last year playoffs. Y'all know exactly how we do it. This is last year playoffs, and God damn it, whoever was here last year ain't here this year. Bridges, you are now DiVincenzo. Okay? You do nothing different. You don't do shit different, but shoot the motherfucker. Okay?
Starting point is 01:16:57 You are Harkinstein. You are Harkinstein. Rebound that shit. Harkinstein back to us. God damn it. So, we need you to do something. So my guy can shoot the ball. Shit.
Starting point is 01:17:07 So we asked the chat, who wins the series? 60% of the chat thinks the Pistons are going to win this series. Shit. Let's talk a little bit more about this. We talked about Mikael Bridges complaining about the Knicks' heavy workload since the end of the regular season. That has been a criticism of Tibbs throughout his career. Knicks obviously second in the East last season, got of the regular season. That has been a criticism of Tibbs throughout his career.
Starting point is 01:17:26 Nick's obviously second in the East last season, got to the second round. This year, third. More wins than last season. But when you look at Tibbs, is Tibbs gone if the Knicks don't make it to at least the conference finals this year? I don't... I don't know how...
Starting point is 01:17:42 How do you complain as a player for playing too much? That's crazy. Like, you... You play me too much, coach? Like, like... Like, I'm averaging 25 because you play me too much. If you play me less, I'm averaging 20, and that's my pay. Do you think Jalen Bruss is complaining about playing 44 minutes?
Starting point is 01:18:03 Why? You play me more. You play me like a max player so I can be a max player? I've never heard someone complain about not playing. I mean playing. Usually it's, you know, you ain't playing me enough, coach. Trying to get my numbers. So the fact that that's even an issue with them, you know, you're going to lose
Starting point is 01:18:25 this round the next round. Nobody really give a fuck. You know what I mean? It's it don't matter who they- It's the style though. Ain't it the style of how they play though? It's like somebody saying, I'm making too much money, man. You're giving me too much money, man. Too much money. Hey man, listen, listen, stop. Just stop giving me that money. Right. I don't want no more money.
Starting point is 01:18:46 You give me... But it could be a number of things, too. They practice how they play, too, though, so... But I think Mikael Bridges' point... They practicing like that, too. Facts. That's the thing. They ain't just playing, my friend.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Mikael Bridges' point, though, we need to rely more on the bench. I don't think that's an inaccurate approach, especially looking at what the bench delivered. Well, the coach is looking at him like, what fucking bench? The starters are the bench. I'm not playing with y'all. I can't shoot no jumpers.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I played 47 minutes a game in the playoffs one season, and then the next season, 47. You said 47 and then 47? 45. I mean 45. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:28 And then 47. 45, 47. I went to the same round that motherfucker went to. Nope, I was not tired at all. There's TV timeouts. There's free throws. There's out of bounds like you. I mean.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Well, especially if you play a game Monday, you know you don't play again till thursday listen if you if you know how to call timeouts you you don't really actually have to sub anybody if you don't want to yeah and we saw steve carr do that against the right i mean every three minutes there's a timeout right tv timeout if I want to use my timeout I can call one at the 1050 mark then there's one at 9 minutes the 750 mark then there's one at the I mean you know how to so you don't have to sub yourself
Starting point is 01:20:17 it's not like y'all really doing anything but sitting playing 5 out the problem is they're not in the condition that the doing anything but sitting and playing fucking five out. The problem is they're not in the condition that the pass used to be in. That's, that's... Well, I mean, some of them.
Starting point is 01:20:36 Some. Bridges not missing games. That's different, though. Not missing games and being able to play, like you say, 47. 10 teams are different. Brunson, like, the way Brunson plays, that's the only motherfucker I'll be watching as a coach. Because Brunson is going to be attacked on defense because he's little.
Starting point is 01:20:59 And then how he plays offense. So I'm going to be gauging everybody off of him. Right? Like, hey, do you need any rest? Because he's using the most energy out of everybody. Same thing with somebody like Shea. Same thing with Cade or Giannis.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Even the Jokic. These guys maximize how they play the game and they're going to expend so much energy. So, shit, Hart. How Hart plays and rebounds on offense. You know what I mean? So I'm going to really be paying attention as a coach. My timeouts when I use them is predicated
Starting point is 01:21:30 on those guys. Because I need to rest those guys the most and I'm going to use them through timeouts if I don't want to sub them. I always say this. I always say this. I remember Carolina, when we sub ourselves out, we come out and we put ourselves back in the game.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Because when you sub yourself out, you're telling the coach I'm playing hard enough to take me out. And I was also told that you can really only play three, two and a half, three straight minutes as hard as you can. A hundred percent. And that might be down back, down back, depending on what offense is being ran, right? If you're playing 100% defense and it's a princess style offense and you're going to be like two possessions, you're like, oh, shit, give me a breather, right?
Starting point is 01:22:18 So there is segments where we can actually rest on defense. Like I'm looking at Mikael Bridges and and I'm going through the game last night, and there was a lot of possessions where he rested. You know, you're chasing a guy around every now and again, but you get to sit back because you're waiting on rotations. They play pick and roll. I can sit here and wait for this rotation. Then I jog back down on the other end.
Starting point is 01:22:40 We're going to run the offense. Since he ran it on that side of the floor, I know I ain't got to do shit on this side. Roll and rise. Swing, swing, swing. If it gets to me. Nando Jarre back on the other end. You're really not playing hard. That's why it's upsetting because the guys could play
Starting point is 01:22:56 hard every possession. They could be flying around the ball. They could be closing out. They could be doing things multiple efforts. But you don't see that. You see them chuck up threes, get the rebound, come down, chuck up three,
Starting point is 01:23:08 get the rebound. There's no discipline. There's no execution. And that's why it's wild basketball right now. Hey, for the guy who said, I've never worked out, I guess you just, you probably young.
Starting point is 01:23:22 I worked out three times a day. I ran miles every day day i was probably one of the most conditioned players besides like somebody like rip hamilton that's why you i've i never needed to be subbed that's why i know the problem of this generation that they don't train and work out so their muscles is not used to running i ran track i ran five miles a day when i was younger so i'm in shape so you didn't have to sub me so i i understand what your usage rate should be as an nba player if you're working out if i didn't work out that hard in practice i read the treadmill i came back at night you know um so when i say that somebody like a Brunson,
Starting point is 01:24:05 that's why I can identify the people who actually put out the work where my timeouts will be called because of how they're playing, not the rest of the team. Because I know that, you know, how Giannis plays, you know, there might be a moment in time where he's going to go up three times. Somebody like a Steph Curry, right? I got to watch how Steph plays on how I'm going to go up three times. Somebody like Steph Curry. I got to watch how Steph plays on how I'm going to call my timeouts
Starting point is 01:24:28 because I know what in shape actually looks like because I was that player. That's why I can play 47.3. You think you can play that in the NBA without being in shape? That's an excuse for missing shots. He plays us too much. Get the fuck out of here. Run some bottles. It's the excuse for missing shots. Yeah, like, oh, he plays us too much.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Get the fuck out of here, man. Run some bottles, dog. And it's the type of shots that they've taken. That's an excuse for missing shots. It's nasty, the type of shots. And you can see all my legs, man. I would love to play them. I would love to play them.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Do they not watch marathons? Bro. And that's what it is. Fucking marathon. Like marathon runners, dog. Like, they run before they can You think they can just run 25 miles Just I'm running 25 miles today
Starting point is 01:25:09 No they gotta prep for that shit They gotta prep 5 miles And 10 miles and 15 And when they run 25 that means they already Probably running 35 Just to run 25 good They seem fucking fine to me When they the nigga who come in first place Ask him how many miles he had to run 25 good. They seem fucking fine to me when they, the nigga who come in first place, ask him how many miles he had to run just to run that 25 for a time.
Starting point is 01:25:31 You have to be a conditioned person to do this. That's why these guys are getting hurt so much. Yep. Because they're not conditioned athletes anymore. They're skipping steps, man. They doing this rubber band shit thinking they look good. They ain't even stretching, though. They don't even stretch.
Starting point is 01:25:45 They don't play in the summer though. No. Like this is them Instagram. Like tell them motherfuckers them Instagram people that's cut up five percent. Tell them to go play up and down one time. Never. They got them show muscles. Show muscles.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Pretty muscles as we used to call them back. Not fucking show muscles. The workout, then go hoop. So we did the same dudes that would be challenging with the one-on-one. This play's like, yeah, bro, but listen, we was to really play match-ups. I want to see that.
Starting point is 01:26:15 It's not worth it. I'm going to get in shape. That basketball in shape, man. That shit hurt, man. I remember when J.J. Redick, I was with him in shape, man. That shit hurt, man. That shit hurt. Like, I remember when, like, J.J. Redick, I was, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:29 because I was with him in Orlando, so I could see what his routine was, right? And he goes. And the year he retired, he said, I retired because I couldn't do my summer program no more.
Starting point is 01:26:43 He said, when the summer came, and I'm like, all right, let's get ready. He said, I retired because I couldn't do my summer program no more. He said, when the summer came, and I'm like, all right, let's get ready. He said, the thought of me having to do this, I didn't want to do it anymore. Same thing with KG. KG said, the summer came, and I'm like, time to run the beach. All right, man. Like, nah, man, I can't do this no more, man. He could have cheated and said, I'm going to do half of this and then go to work.
Starting point is 01:27:05 But those type of guys, they want to maximize what they do, their output in the summer to prepare for the season. So, you know, those guys were real workhorses. Like, that's why, like, when you look at a Westbrook and somebody like a Giannis, somebody like a Steph in Dubai running the heels, there's a reason he can run around all fucking day. That shit ain't easy, man. I just think we had a different program, though, growing up.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Who? We just hooped, too, bro. Basketball, I don't think we got tired, bro. We used to be outside playing all day, bro. You know why? Because when I match up with Nick, Nick not going to let me have a moment off on defense. Because it's Nick and Gil on the same team, right? We run in fives.
Starting point is 01:27:56 I come down, I got to guard you. Then I come down, I got to guard you. I'm trying to push you 100%. You trying to push me. We all get better because we all not trying to get shown up by each other. And then you might have Demarcus and KG down here. We got everybody hooping, but everybody want to win. So we all playing hard.
Starting point is 01:28:14 But now you're looking at, hey, man, you just let him just blow by you like that and dunk on you like that? Crazy. You're not embarrassed? You ain't embarrassed. You don't want to go back. Bro, you just sat in the corner. You ran down and sat in the corner.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Everybody's still making noise in the gym. Yeah. Think about it, bro. I remember the condition, man, when we went to that, when we used to go. Like if you're not playing and you had to do the bleacher run. Oh, that shit was nasty. Oh, I hated that shit. And then you had to go around.
Starting point is 01:28:40 You had to go up and down and then around. Yeah, like you think about it. No, no, think about it. No, just get on the track. Everybody on the track. That's how I know like condition has changed. Like I know what I did in the summer. They getting in trouble for that now. When you're talking about running miles and running bleachers,
Starting point is 01:28:55 I remember we used to play games like in September. We would outrun bleachers, then play in the game when we do pickup to have everybody do the same thing. So we used to run the bleachers, then playing the game. When we do pickup. To have everybody do the same thing. So we used to run the bleachers, play pickup. We did that shit for a month, right? Niggas looking perfect. Training camp, nigga, this is about to be a breeze.
Starting point is 01:29:18 First day. Done. No matter what you did. No matter what you did, training camp, I think it was more scary than anything. Hamstring, shoulder. I think it was more scary than anything. Like, man, we got to do all this running shit, man.
Starting point is 01:29:32 But like you say, if you prepare, right, you already know that everybody got a certain type of preparation. The bad thing about the NBA is we can, us three can have the same routine and get in shape and get to the fucking training camp and seven other motherfuckers is out of shape. They ain't did.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Half the shit we did, now think about college. In college, we all gotta get in shape at the same time. We all know we in shape because we all complaining in the dorm. We like, god damn, today was crazy. Now, we show up to training camp, we don't know who went hard this
Starting point is 01:30:06 summer. We don't know who skipped steps until we on the court. And it's like, the first three hours, we're like, yo, you all right, my nigga? You good? I just smoked a blunt on the way here. You still smoking? Oh, yeah, that's crazy. Bro, what you on? We supposed to be... So once you get the energy,
Starting point is 01:30:22 ain't nobody taking it serious. That's when everything starts separating. And that's why I couldn't get my career back after I got, you know, you know, clipped. When the summer came, I treated like it was a normal summer. Yep.
Starting point is 01:30:36 So once I could move, I'm over there running track, running with the parachute on, doing my bike runs, you know, huh? You didn't do the rehab, right? Yeah, I know. I didn't know. You didn't do the rehab part? Yeah, I know. I didn't know.
Starting point is 01:30:47 I didn't know nothing about rehab. Oh, so you didn't go through nothing? No, I didn't. I got my strength in the gym. I did a little bit of that, but once I was allowed to run. Oh, shit. I didn't do nothing but strength in the gym. I'm running my sprints.
Starting point is 01:30:59 I'm running my miles around. Oh, that's why your shit's fucked up. So that's why I said. Eight games into the season, I'm out again. Oh, your shit was weak as hell. So I didn't know what, I didn't know, I didn't respect the rehab process. I didn't know, because this was like, basically sit here and get fat.
Starting point is 01:31:15 You know what I mean? And I don't know what the fuck that means. I did nine months of that shit. I was supposed to do it with this. I didn't know what, I didn't know what. You ain't do the pool shit. I did the pool stuff, but then I got a bike I'm gonna run the bike. Yeah, like it was a thing where Yeah
Starting point is 01:31:35 I'm just saying in terms of actual exercise that too. Yeah, cuz you it's like punching underwater It's actually like the resistance is crazy. I mean the post all the post-op, everybody always, but it's. The bodies works, though. Yeah, we got a lot of it. A lot of it. Yeah, I did. This is Gil's arena. We get off topic every day, but important topics, none the less. We having that shit is so boring, bro.
Starting point is 01:31:54 So back to Tim's real quick. Yeah, it's so boring. Because once I feel like I can move, I just get back to the court. I just want to go. That's when the doctors be like, don't. Don't do that. So mentally disciplined. Yeah, you got to.
Starting point is 01:32:07 Like, I didn't even, I didn't know it then. I still don't know it now. Still don't. I need rehab now. I'm like, shit. I don't see the fuck for. Shit. For real.
Starting point is 01:32:17 I feel fine. It's been fucked up for 18. Might as well just go ahead and throw a couple more on there. That's why I be waking up. I can't even bend my back knee. Yeah. For real, y'all don't be wanting to fix this shit. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:32:29 It feel good. That pain is too much to not be like, yo, I got to fix this. But when it feel good, it feel good, though. Like, it feel good enough for what I do now. Yeah, I run, shoot, you know, not too much. You know how the cows get up, walk up the stairs, you ain't popping and clicking. Hell, I didn, shoot, you know, not too much. Get up. Walk up the stairs. You ain't popping and clicking.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Hell, I ain't popping and clicking. When you wake up in the morning, that's when it hurts. So we asked the chat, is Tibbs coaching for his job? 72% of the chat says yes. What time is it? It feels like we're all coaching for our jobs. It is 1-11-11. Just asking. It was all 111.11.
Starting point is 01:33:05 You can mention that a lot of coaches needed to move around. Other people use that take as well in their various shows. They're using it? You've heard it? I've seen this before. I've seen this take somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:33:22 Let's shift back over to the Western Conference. So back in 2021. Oh. So are you excited about the West? I thought we were about to talk about the Lakers.
Starting point is 01:33:30 My bad. The Lakers played tonight. Yeah, we played tonight. We talked about the Lakers yesterday. I talk about them every day. A Laker-heavy show,
Starting point is 01:33:37 as you guys know. We give respect and love to all teams. So back in 2021, Grizzlies gave the Thunder the worst loss in NBA history with a 73-point blow gave the Thunder the worst loss in NBA history with a 73-point blowout. Thunder returned the favor in Game 1 of their opening round
Starting point is 01:33:49 playoff series. Thunder's 51-point win was the largest Game 1 win in NBA playoff history, fifth largest in postseason history. Balance attacked by OKC as six players scored in double figures with no one playing more than 26 minutes. SGA only played 23 minutes in the game, 15 points, five assists on four 13 shooting. Jalen Williams had 25 boards, six dimes and three steals. Chet Holmgren added 19 and 10 boards. Aaron Wiggins came off the bench, led the team in scoring with 21 points. John Morant, the only Grizzlies starter to score in double figures. He had 17 points on six to17 shooting. Marvin Bagley III came off the bench, had 17-5, going a perfect 8-for-8 from the field. So the Grizzlies had a quick
Starting point is 01:34:31 turnaround after winning the final playing game for the A-seed on Friday night, then traveling to OKC for an early afternoon game on Sunday. After the embarrassing loss, Ja had this to say. So what are you telling your guys after something like this? We'll never, you know, play that bad again. So Ja, what do you tell your guys after you have a game like this? Ja said we'll never play that bad again. Let's talk the Thunderdome. Thunder were the best team in the league this season,
Starting point is 01:34:58 set a franchise record for wins, had the top-rated defense and top-three offense, best point differential in NBA history with an average margin of victory of nearly 13 points. So what statement did the Thunder make with their blowout win over the Grizzlies in game one? A lot of talk about this team being young, inexperienced, not ready to make that next step.
Starting point is 01:35:18 51-point blowout win. Number one team in the NBA. I see you looking confused. Yeah, because you're young like they're not playing against a young team too. You don't want to see OKC? I see you looking confused. Yeah, because you're young, like they're not playing against a young team, too. You don't want to see OKC. I'm saying with the criticism of OKC was that they're young. But they're playing against a young team, too,
Starting point is 01:35:34 so that criticism is still there until they play against a veteran team, just FYI. So you don't think the Grizzlies squad... No, you said the criticism that they were receiving because they were young, but they're playing against a team that's also young. This is a lot of playoff experience. But they won by –
Starting point is 01:35:53 They beat their ass. They showed that they've been number one. They are number one. And you are number eight. That's how one is supposed to look. You had to play in the play-in game just to get ass-whipping like this. But Grizzlies, not a true eight seed based on how this might stand out. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Not a traditional. You lose by 51, you eight seed. Top four team in the West for the rest of the season. I understand that. But it wasn't like they battled back to get the eight. No, no, no. You eight seed, you get ass-whipping like that. You are where's good. But it wasn't like they battled back to get the A's. No, no, no. You're AFC. You get ass-whipping like that.
Starting point is 01:36:26 You are where you belong. Yeah, yeah. John has some nice-ass shoes on, though. The shoes is nice. New shoes? Whoa. The shoes is cold. I know.
Starting point is 01:36:36 That ass-whipping. That was the only thing I was thinking about. They got shoes out there, boy. Those shoes look nice. Those shoes, how nice do they look, though, when your team is getting smacked by 50-pumpers? They still look nice. They still look nice. It made me how nice do they look, though, when your team is getting smacked by 50-point balls? They still look nice. It made me forget about the ass.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Did they take away, like, did they look better if the team wins the game? Nah, this was like, like you ever been to, like it's probably in your league right now, right? You play softball. I do not play softball. I coach Little League. Little League softball, right? Coach J, no softball.
Starting point is 01:37:02 What is it? It's regular baseball. Do they cut the score off? Huh? They cut the score. There's no score, right? Coach J, no softball. What is it? It's regular baseball. Do they cut the score off? Huh? They cut the score. There's no score, right? No, we have scoreboards. Oh, yeah, because, you know, usually at a certain age when you get in the ass
Starting point is 01:37:12 with that bad. Oh, we do have mercy rules. Just no score. Just erase the score. Y'all just go out there and play. They do that in basketball. They should have did that. They do that in basketball.
Starting point is 01:37:20 They do that in basketball. They should have did that last. Zero, zero. I'm like, keep the shit up. They need to know they got their ass worked. They need to know what's coming for them. Just turn the score off and just let the time run because this is embarrassing. 51-piece.
Starting point is 01:37:32 51 in the playoff. Yeah. I said we'll never play like that again. Of course. Of course not. I mean, you know, 49. 49 is right. You lose by 49.
Starting point is 01:37:42 You right. You didn't play like that. That is a problem. Yep. Elephant in the room. What is the elephant in the room? SGA walked into that hood. Or they came into SGA hood. And SGA said, man, you ain't who I thought you was.
Starting point is 01:37:59 Ja. Your ass is in here focused on celebrations and shit. Get your ass. Call him Demetrius. Wap, wap, wap to me true Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, huh? Focused on the wrong shit throwing your words out there take this with you. No grenades were take this with you The crowd of this guy I see no not well now one grenade did you know Blakey's for no blinky's no nothing, huh? You got to shoot rain, sleet, hail, and snow, my nigga. You can't just
Starting point is 01:38:28 put that bitch up. I don't like it. I don't like it. I like that message SGA sent, though. You ain't nowhere near on my level. So we're talking about SGA. SGA entered the game with 72 straight 20-point games. Saw that streak snapped with his 15-point performance. But the flip side of that. Wait, how does it snap?
Starting point is 01:38:49 For just straight games, obviously. Playoffs count as straight games? Yeah, including playoffs. But he will still have that streak heading into the regular season of next year. But just in terms of straight consecutive games, any game he's played. But what does the Thunder put up a 51 point blowout? With the likely MVP only scoring 15 points say about this Yeah, I mean it ain't
Starting point is 01:39:16 Their defense is what what you know, it ain't you know, the offensive part is you know, they they you know They do what they do, but defensively, they shut their motherfuckers down. That's what they did, right? Nobody was comfortable out there when they caught the ball. Nobody was comfortable with open shots. I mean, it looked like real struggle basketball throughout. Usually, a loss like this somebody plays well somebody had a good game and you know nobody was playing well right it's like they keyed on they
Starting point is 01:39:52 they read they playbook like the back of their hands basically what what they were doing they just play hard i think they just scramble and i think the coach said listen guys we got extra bodies play hard tonight scramble let's make. Let's make them work for every fucking thing. Let's get each other. Hey, have your teammates back, man. Yeah, they're a college team. They're a college team, man. They're a college team.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Help the helper. Close out. Second effort. Man, get back on defense. Everybody box out. ASGA, don't nobody leak out. Five people to rebound. That's right.
Starting point is 01:40:23 Y'all got to understand basketball for real. This shit is really real. Basketball is real. It still exists. Motherfuckers still do play. In the college basketball, young teams are starting to scramble. Denver was the last team that played suitable NBA basketball the last
Starting point is 01:40:40 maybe three years. Then you got the Warriors when they had their run. We was praising the way they played, you know, pass the ball. But I think the Thunder right now is probably be that team that's giving us,
Starting point is 01:40:51 this is how you play basketball. Like, they are, they playing, they in sync, man. Like, they happy to play for each other. Like, they're a real team,
Starting point is 01:41:02 though. Now, Memphis is going to have to change their lineup. Yeah. Right? You know, the idea. Memphis is going to have to change their lineup. Yeah. Right? You know, the idea.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Who they got in the lineup right now? They got three small guards, right, with Ja being the biggest one out of them. John Bain. John Bain and Pip Jr. He's in the lineup? That's their main core guard. As far as just their rotation. Yeah, yeah. They ain't way too small.
Starting point is 01:41:23 You're literally going to have to put in, I mean, you know, Beasley, you know, I mean Bagley. Bagley. Right? You know, he came in, played 16 minutes, 8 for 8, right? Jan Jackson. You might have to just go, you know, big squad on them. You know, put one of them at the three and see if you can try to shake it up, pick and rolls, you know, you know, try to keep from playing all three guards at the same time because, okay, see, their two guards is bigger, like Shea's bigger
Starting point is 01:41:55 than all three guards combined, Lou Dort is probably the same height, but he's stronger than all the guards, so you don't have no advantage with that, you might have to put Bagley in and play bigger and see if you can get some advantages over there. You might have to use Edie here. Got all the ammo as well. This pick and roll, throw it up to him. You might have to do that in this series.
Starting point is 01:42:16 You see the matchup. You see the matchup with Chet and Harkin Stein matching up with Edie and Jaron Jackson Jr. Jaron Jackson Jr. gave you four points, three rebounds. Yeah. Excuse me? Hmm. Marvin Bagley came out there and gave you what?
Starting point is 01:42:35 17 and five, eight for eight. We got two guys on the same team, right? And I'm the coach, and the other guy went, he left, because he might have seen that Bagley was busting this nigger's head open every time they matched and just wasn't playing him because he's the all-star. Now this boy Bagley like, hey coach might actually let me get a little run now so I can show these people I can still play.
Starting point is 01:42:58 But three rebounds as an all-star? It's just insane. It's insane. Kendrick Perkins said it. Saved man might be the most overrated big in the league. He can shoot the three. Jared Jackson. Jared Jackson, but he plays questionable-
Starting point is 01:43:14 Basketball. Defensive rebounding, questionable defense. Like, bro, what are we doing? Y'all got dominated by 50 points. You have four points, three boards. Hit in the mouth. If you don't come out, you got to have, like, come on, bro. It's unacceptable. Could the Grizzlies
Starting point is 01:43:31 benefit from some veteran coaching? No. It don't matter who's coaching. It don't matter? You can't play three players that's 6'3", 6'4", 6'2". I don't know how tall Bane is. I don't know how tall Bane is. I don't know how tall Bane is, but he's compact, right?
Starting point is 01:43:51 And, you know, you're talking about the guards you're playing against. They play rough basketball. Listed at 6'5". So, I mean, but he don't play 6'5", right? So, you know, the fact that, like, Lou Dort plays all of 6'8", 6'9". Right? That's the difference here. So the fact that that's your matchup, you might want to offset that by, you know, you might have to bring, you know, Pip Jr. off the bench.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Go bigger, you think? And go bigger. Right? And see, because Bagley is a post player. You got Bagley, you got Aldama, you got, I mean. But Bagley is a post player. Now, who has to guard him? Jalen Williams, Dort?
Starting point is 01:44:26 Like, now you offset their lineup in. But what's the identity? Like, what is Memphis's identity? Because God is not the center point. Nah, they don't make that. And you're not saying E.D. not the center point. So what is the, who the fuck are the Memphis Grizzlies right now? Granted, I'll basket. so what is the who the fuck are the Memphis Grizzlies right now grind it out basket like
Starting point is 01:44:45 it looked nasty because they looked like they didn't have nothing to go to to be like hey let's cut this water off let's go here let's cut this shit off right now we gotta go here let's just cut the water off they ain't have none of that you would think Edie big enough to just throw in a ball
Starting point is 01:45:02 kill the momentum Edie dunk on somebody. Hell no. Hell no. He ain't ready at all yet. Up until that point, Memphis was playing okay basketball. Like the game
Starting point is 01:45:14 versus the Warriors, that was a good game. Yeah, that makes sense. But OKC, OKC is good. Let's stop acting like they not number one. They 13 games ahead of everybody for a reason.
Starting point is 01:45:26 But did Memphis lay down or not? At some point you had to. You just say, man, if it lived, it lived. See another day. If you're down 30 or something. But the problem is you have three guards that are little. But Pippen Jr. is a point guard that's not playing the point guard.
Starting point is 01:45:48 Right? He is a point guard that gets everybody involved, but that's not the position he's playing here, because Ja has the ball. Then you have Bane as, you know, the catch-and-shoot guy who kind of plays like the point guard. So you have three guys like kind of doing the same
Starting point is 01:46:04 thing when you don't need like kind of doing the same thing When you don't need that I see the shooting percentages for Bane when he's running off of this new shit He's three for 12. Yeah, he's not he can consistently accurate. So it looks nasty It's just like it's like they're running the office like they they're they're doing a three guard system because These three guards are kind of like our best players in a sense. They're the ones we can trust on. But you're playing against the number one team that they're bigger at that same position. They're going to overpower you.
Starting point is 01:46:36 They're going to push you off that spot. Like, these are, that team got some dogs in them, right? SGA plays both sides of the court, right? You have Lou Dort. That motherfucker just plays defense, right? That's what he sides of the court, right? You have Lou Dort, that motherfucker just plays defense, right? That's what he do. You know what I mean? But he gets, but what he is there for to be a hound. So now you got your
Starting point is 01:46:54 top two point guards or your top two guards on the other end that are just going to overpower you and play. Your guards is a little at that same position so they're not going to get the shit that they normally get. And then you don't have an inside-outside game. So if you're going to be doing pick and rolls, you better be doing pick and rolls and trying to get E to ball
Starting point is 01:47:11 to see if you can open up this game for yourself. And you can stretch the floor. Okay, see, with Chet taking E out of the paint, taking Jaron Jackson Jr. out of the paint. When did they start pipping? For a minute, though. And the fact that you got Jaron Jackson shooting. out of the paint. When did they start pipping? For a foul. For a minute, though. And the fact that you got Jaron Jackson shooting threes the whole time and he ain't really getting off like that, it kind of like.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Who was that three? Aldama. Who? The Europe. Oh, yeah. Okay, so. Yeah, seven foot. I don't remember Pippen starting like that.
Starting point is 01:47:43 So, John Pippen. John 6'2", Bane 6'5". Bane 6'1". Suffered the season in the injury. And what's up with G.G. Jackson? He ain't been in? I've been. Now, G.G. Jackson plays like he's literally a big guard.
Starting point is 01:48:01 Play that motherfucker like a big guard. Put him at the three. He play like. G.G. Jackson is funny. What's up with a big guard. Put him at the three. He played like, he played like, Gigi Jackson is funny. Put his ass Gigi Jackson. Turner.
Starting point is 01:48:09 I'm like, who the fuck is Gigi? Indiana. Who? Big man. Miles Turner? Miles Turner. That's what he played like.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Yeah, him and Miles like the same type of big. That's what I said. I'll put his ass at the three. Bagley played the four. Let him shoot threes.
Starting point is 01:48:24 They just won't shoot three. They don't rebound. Three rebounds in the game. Did he don't rebound? Yeah, he really the only one but even Edie you're getting pushed around Yeah, and that's supposed to be the trade-off if they gonna push me around go get the board, bro Listen, I don't mind like this is where Gigi Jackson be available for game two wasn't available game one personal reason. Yeah Gigi Gigi Jackson though. They got JJ GG GG was a second round last year. He got popping last year. That's the big games last year young this year He got with his rare hurt. All right, he started off hurting. Yeah. Had some big games last year, young. This year, he got hurt. With the drafts and all that? He started off hurting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:05 The big man, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like a three. Like a three. Three, they put him at the four. It's a weird position for him, too.
Starting point is 01:49:14 I thought you were talking about J. Nah. G.G. G.G. Yeah, did not play game one. Yeah, so, you know, hopefully he can
Starting point is 01:49:22 personally change it, but, you know. It means mind your business. Don't ask me shit. Alright, well, talked about some playoff teams. Let's talk about a team that is not in the playoffs. So, Mavericks GM Nico Harrison held his end-of-season press conference,
Starting point is 01:49:35 and as always, the subject of Luka Doncic came up. Current Laker, Luka Doncic, a.k.a. Slovenian Jesus. Here's what Nico said about Luka's popularity. I did know that Luka was important to the fan base. I didn't quite know it to what level. But really, the way we looked at it is, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:56 if you're putting a team on the floor that's Kyrie, Klay, PJ, Anthony Davis, and Lively, we feel that's a championship caliber team, and we would have been winning at a high level, and that would have quieted some of the outrage. And so unfortunately, we weren't able to do that, so it just continued to, you know, go on and on. He looked like a Disney villain. All right.
Starting point is 01:50:21 But in real life. So in case you missed that, Nico said, I did know Luka was important to the fan base. Right. But in real life. So in case you missed that, Nico said, I did know Luka was important to the fan base. I didn't know quite to this level. Are you buying that Nico underestimated Luka's popularity in Dallas?
Starting point is 01:50:37 Hell no. I mean, I know y'all liked him, but not like that. Hell no. Nico needed to shut the fuck up. He can to shut the fuck up. He can't shut the fuck up. The motherfucker had an earpiece here. That's a robot, dog.
Starting point is 01:50:54 That's a robot. He was crying inside the whole time. You ever seen Get Out? Get Out, right there. It was a sunken place. I didn't know he was that important to the team. I mean, we feel that we... You said we feel...
Starting point is 01:51:12 We felt that he was... We didn't know that he was that important to us. I mean. That ass. What was that? I don't get it. Did also say. That's birthday baby. You got a team with A.D., Kyrie, and all those guys helping.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Yeah, it's a different looking squad. It was winning. Yeah, we'll be showing some of this. It wouldn't happen. Help. Say it. Say it. Say it right.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Say it right. Rob. Read the words. Help. Read the words. Read the words. You're the closest I can tell you to. Rob. I thought your mama used to do you a reading. Say it right.
Starting point is 01:51:53 You said it in class. Rob, you said it. Help. Yeah, right? Can I get my proposal? You went upstairs, right? You're the president of operations. I'm going to be the general manager.
Starting point is 01:52:06 I think he's like, can y'all just fire me already so I can go to the team? So, I mean, I guess the bigger question is, they make him hold this closed-door meeting with the CEO, Rick Wilson. It was practice. But I'm saying with just the Dallas media, when he already got to do his interview. It was practice. But what did he need to practice for?
Starting point is 01:52:24 It was practice to make sure you got the ver practice for? He was going to get packed up. It was practice to make sure you got the verbiage right for the rest of the world. A stand-up comedian going and doing a bunch of spots, getting ready for the special. Wait, wait, wait. He did another meeting? Prior to this, he did a closed-door meeting with select Dallas media, no cameras, no audio recording devices. So he did a practice.
Starting point is 01:52:41 Right. It was a practice to make sure you got the shit to work right. He said the words like I tell you to. Nah, they can't treat a human being like that. Yeah. You can't do that. Pay you. I pay you.
Starting point is 01:52:50 You're going to practice first. Make sure you got this shit right. I'm going to. All right. Now get out there, boy. Get out there, boy. That's fucked up. You pointed out.
Starting point is 01:53:03 So according to reports. Think about that He was It looked like he lost a lot of weight It looked like he was shaking Master told me That grows empty Why the fuck you have a secret session here
Starting point is 01:53:20 And then go to the world That was just training He was workshopping He was workshopping. He was workshopping his quotes. But according to reports, can you tell me a nice speech I can rehearse? That's for the public.
Starting point is 01:53:35 Yes, I will. So, Gil, as you pointed out, according to reports, Nico did not want to do that closed-door session with Dallas Media. He was pressured by ownership. You know, you maintain that he wasn't the one that closed-door session with Dallas Media. He was pressured by ownership. You maintain that he wasn't the one that actually made this move to begin with. He's just the scapegoat and the fall guy for it. He said, you heard it started off, I didn't know, to then it became a we thing. You telling me he didn't know how important Luka was
Starting point is 01:54:01 when they've been doing chants all through last season, MVP chants. I mean, I don't even know what goddamn flag they had in the building this year because last year it was the Slovenian one. Shout out to Slovenia. Yeah, yeah. It was all Slovenian. Hey, listen, I don't even know if anybody ever seen the national anthem in the arena because I know whatever they were
Starting point is 01:54:26 saying, it had to do with Luka and Luka only. So, trust me, he knew how important Luka was. The new owners didn't know how important Luka was. And do we think that's what it is, or did they know how important Luka was? No, they didn't give a fuck. They didn't want to cut the check. No, no, they didn't give a
Starting point is 01:54:42 fuck. We had nothing to do with no check. He didn't bend a knee. I had not doing no check He didn't bend the knee I told you get your ass in there Luca you better go this ground and stop worshiping that man and worship us like you supposed to worship Cuban a hit no more Mark you was on Shark Tank Luca Luca was like yeah the way these knees work. I Don't being for no American. You ain't never gonna pay them. I'm paying them. That's a boy's nothing.
Starting point is 01:55:10 I'm paying them. They're gonna keep that like no, but like I said. Luca came from the old country. They said this woman told me to do what? In my country. It's the maids around here
Starting point is 01:55:26 we drink beers and we give out 39 and 9 you tell that woman uh it don't feel right no none of this
Starting point is 01:55:41 you know you know what don't feel right it's the fact that Jason Kidd has to sign off on this. No. But does he? No. Because what's been,
Starting point is 01:55:54 further research has told me that the owners didn't go to Nico with this. So they have been blindsided with the fact that they gave him the clearance to do what he needed to do but why would you want to do it well as nico repeatedly said defense wins champion exactly with his rally so all of these little trickle down effects even go back to the michael finley take this shit out your hand. Don't take another man's ear. So who is Michael Finley sitting next to? All right. Mike and Nico is having these conversations.
Starting point is 01:56:32 He just won't fucking listen, man. What the fuck is we doing, man? Because he won't listen. So then the owners got to take the shot because they knew. They don't know what's going on. They don't know what the relationships is going. Mike and them have some shit going on with this whole situation.
Starting point is 01:56:49 Don't take Lucas' beer. Don't take his beer. Don't call him fat. Don't say he not playing defense. And have his lemonade ready to go with his barbecue. You see everybody still got their job. After the second best player in the NBA got traded, nobody got fired. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:09 Everybody still got their shit. So something had to have gone right here. Something had to have gone right for everybody to still just be like, alright, on with the show. On with the show. There's only a couple people that's
Starting point is 01:57:23 going to take a beating like Nico. You can't hire some people like, you do what I tell you and do it how I tell you. He worked with Nike and Kobe and them. They've been walking on him and walking all over him for years. That's what I'm saying. Nico, come over here. Hey, man. Open this door.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Come open this door. It kills the point in time in a man's life. I can't take this shit, don't move. I don't want to have no private meeting. You're going to get your ass beat. You're going to get your ass beat. You're going to get your ass beat. You're going to get your ass beat. You're going to get your ass beat. I can't take this shit, though. I said, man, I don't want to have no private meeting. No, you're going to get your ass out of here
Starting point is 01:57:48 at this private meeting. You're going to end it like I told you. You want to get in the car, walk in there, down, and man. Toby, man. Toby today. I'm Toby today. It was cool the last night, though. Big change.
Starting point is 01:58:00 It was cool the last night. Toby today. There you go. I mean, the signs have been on the wall. I mean, obviously, if Nico did this by himself and went rogue, he would have been
Starting point is 01:58:13 fired. Right? It was a personal decision. It was personal. And the people felt that they you know, they didn't have no control over, you know,
Starting point is 01:58:28 the guy that they thought was supposed to be the franchise. Slovenian Jesus, as he's known. And that was the problem. What you calling him? Jesus. Slovenian Jesus. You know, you spend, you spend. How much money do they spend?
Starting point is 01:58:41 On what? How much do they spend on that team? Oh, the new owners? Yeah, how much do they spend? 2.3? 2. How much did they spend on that team? Oh, the new owners? Yeah, how much did they spend? 2.3? 2 point, how much billion? They ain't know Jesus if I spend two something billion. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:58:56 How they treated Nico? 3.5 billion. 3 point? How they treated Nico? Human sold his majority stake for 3.5 billion. So basically how it broke down was he sold the majority stake, still had ownership in the team, but lost the control of all basketball decisions. Where was he at?
Starting point is 01:59:10 He was at full control? I think he was 100. I don't want to say 100, but very high up there. When I spend $3.5 billion, I'm Jesus. And how Nico was acting that's how Luka was supposed to act and so Cuba still has 27% of the club I tell your ass jump motherfucker
Starting point is 01:59:31 you jump and Luka couldn't jump that high alright you gonna get the fuck on out of here we gonna bring in somebody Luka kinda like I ain't been jumping what you mean jump this boy got too much mouth
Starting point is 01:59:48 he got too much mouth in the big head he got too much mouth you got a lot of belly and a lot of mouth boy you got more belly than you do mouth I don't like this shit he talking to me when the season was going on, Niko wasn't talking.
Starting point is 02:00:07 He wasn't. The season over went, they was like, hey, hey, hey, hey, boy. Hey, Niko. Hey, Niko. Hey, Yad, boy. Hey, Yad, boy. Hey, Yad, boy. Go ahead and pick these hedges.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Go ahead and trim these hedges. Come on over here. Hey, Niko looking at his phone like, shit. This fired me already. Damn. The Laker Johnson opened up. And it's all like, shit, just fire me already. Damn. The Lakers' job just opened up. My mother's going to beat me down to my socks.
Starting point is 02:00:33 My mother's going to beat me down to my socks. Kill me already. Kill me already. I got another job waiting. Like, people didn't realize. Y'all see, the last general manager for the Lakers got a promotion, promoted himself to a whole nother position. Nico in there like, just fire me.
Starting point is 02:00:49 They got Nico working at the Quinn Dickey. Let me go back with Luca. That owner like, man, fuck that punk ass watch. I'm not letting you go back punk ass watch. That's my daddy. My bad, my bad.
Starting point is 02:01:04 I didn't mean to say it. Go ahead, say bad. My bad. I didn't mean to say it. Go ahead. Go ahead. Say it again. One more time. That's going to be the funniest shit ever when they decide to try
Starting point is 02:01:12 to fire Nico and he go back to Luka. Free man. Happy. He going to run to Luka. I'm sorry. We all free. They ain't even doing it. Missile candy.
Starting point is 02:01:23 Missile candy. Don't kill missile candy Candy land So We gonna send it to LaQuinn Dickey LaQuinn Dickey I'm never worse than that I'm never worse than that I'm telling you
Starting point is 02:01:42 Listen I know Jason Can't turn his phone off worse than that. I'm telling you man. That's crazy. Listen, they... You know that nigga. I know Jason. I know Jason. I quit thinking about it. He can't turn his phone off. Oh yeah, for sure. We ain't heard shit.
Starting point is 02:01:51 We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit.
Starting point is 02:01:59 We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. We ain't heard shit. so who are you supposed to be playing changing my shit to T-Mobile right after this keeping this conversation going
Starting point is 02:02:10 welcome to T-Mobile so there's been a lot of public pressure from Mav fans calling for Nico's job and one local reporter asked Nico to defend himself from those claims when Luca comes back to town the Lakers game is happening, and you're standing there, and there's thousands of people chanting for you to be fired.
Starting point is 02:02:30 That's an experience that none of us, you know, no one's chanting for us to lose our jobs. Why shouldn't you be fired? Well, one, I think I've done a really good job here. And I don't think I can be judged by the injuries this year. You have to judge from totality from beginning to end. And so I think I have a really good working relationship with Patrick. I think you add in Rick, the leadership that we have is really elite. And you'll see next year when our team comes back, we're going to be competing for a championship.
Starting point is 02:03:14 Saddest shit I've ever seen. Saddest shit I've ever seen. Damn! Like, you just cheated on your wife, and you got to read. You like smoke trying to roll a cigarette. Yeah. Shout out to everybody to roll a cigarette. Hey. Yeah. Shout out to everybody who saw Sinners this weekend.
Starting point is 02:03:27 It's a long-term investment, man. Yeah. Can't roll his own cigarette. Why should you be fighting? Yeah. Long-term. She's a five now. We're going to work with her.
Starting point is 02:03:38 She's going to be an eight by the end. I'm telling you. I feel bad. I feel bad for you. I wish she just came out and said, I can't. Listen, I can't be fired. Because it was them motherfuckers up there. So they can't fire me.
Starting point is 02:03:49 Now, be like, have some. It's over, man. You got to do what you got to do, man. But I know J. Kid. J. Kid laughing because he already knew what he got traded for. They said, we traded for who? Huh? Yeah, I had him for
Starting point is 02:04:07 two years. Okay. Woo! Hey, I'm officially not going to be saying anything in these meetings no more. You gave me back what I just left? Okay. I honestly think Jason Kidd
Starting point is 02:04:23 didn't like that style of basketball. You think Jason Kidd was cool. I honestly think Jason Kidd didn't like that style of basketball. You think Jason Kidd was cool? I honestly think that. Yeah, he said, yeah. Even though he can praise him for being a great player, that's great. I got a great player on my team, but I do not like the way he plays.
Starting point is 02:04:39 You ain't said nothing. Those two things can be true. And then you can't control that. You got Mark over here. You got Mark in your ear saying, shut the fuck up. He do what he want. Let him do what he want. And he's like, bro, we're not going to win.
Starting point is 02:04:51 He's complaining about his defense and shit. But I still don't. You still don't let Luka go, though. They did not sign off on it. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. You can complain and all, but I'm just. Can you make it better, though?
Starting point is 02:05:03 If you keep him, how are you going to make it better? That's the question. Because the Lakers are going to have to make it better if they want to win. We will. Last but not least, in terms of this Nico situation, as Nico tried to walk out of his press conference, this happened. He tried to walk out. Hey.
Starting point is 02:05:30 Oh, no. Man. You got fired. Got fired. Now you can't leave. Go talk some more. Go talk some more. What the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 02:05:40 That's what he's trying to say. Oh, no, we got some more questions. Now go leave that back door, bitch. We got some more questions for you, man. Where you going? We did not say cut, bro. We did not say cut, bro. We don't know why there's so much over here. Nico got a movie right here.
Starting point is 02:05:57 It's a documentary. It's a documentary. It's one of the lifetime originals. Lakers fans very thankful for Nico Harrison, but it's hard not to watch this whole situation. And not be sad. The fact that they were still recording already lets you know.
Starting point is 02:06:10 Keep the camera on or we gonna lock his ass out. He could say fuck. He didn't want to turn around. He said fuck, right? Can we play it again, please, Paolo, if you don't mind? It sounded like he said it.
Starting point is 02:06:28 Mike, man, like what mocha having? I mean, this is. Oh, no. Fuck off. That didn't sound like he said fuck y'all. Ha ha ha! Oh, no? Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:06:41 What? Wait. What the hell? Was that the cameraman or him? I think it was the cameraman. It sounded like. Nah, he's stuck. Hell no, trash ass, man. Nah, that's a man like, what the fuck happened?
Starting point is 02:06:53 Like, God, you can't do me like this. I can't do no more. What I got to do, man? What I got to do? So our producer's saying it was oh, no, but we can push narratives here. No, no, so it was oh no, but that was from a reporter. Oh no. Lock this ass
Starting point is 02:07:12 out. Oh no. I think they were reacting to that particular moment with the door being locked. That's the funny part. Nico, we're praying for you. We got a job for you. We do. We got a job. We're looking forward to you as a manager now. Can we get a cardboard cutout of Nico next to Scott?
Starting point is 02:07:28 And right now, you should get GM of the year. You did give Luka to the Lakers. So if you come here, trust me, you're going to get cheered. Oh, yeah, for sure. Thank you, Nico. Yeah. All right, well, let's keep it moving. We got one last topic before we get to mostly fans.
Starting point is 02:07:43 So according to multiple reports, Damian Lillard will make his return to the court tonight in game two for the Bucs as they try to even up the series with the Pacers after their 19-point loss in game one. Lillard has been out since March 18th with a blood clot in his calf. He participated in his first full practice last Thursday, has been given the clearance to play. But let's go back to a moment from game one
Starting point is 02:08:06 when Dame did not play, was in street clothes, on the Bucs sideline, got into a situation with Tyrese Halliburton. Back here at Gamers Fieldhouse. Here it is. It should be late. Dame Lillard and Tyrese Halliburton. Tyrese, we're going to see.
Starting point is 02:08:26 Uh-oh. You know that already. Beat your ass. Man, not with them pants on, Dane. So they were chirping at each other game one. Lillard threatening to engage in some unruly fisticuffs with Halliburton,
Starting point is 02:08:39 according to our expert lip-reading team. Halliburton said, what the black clock? So Dane been itching to get out there. Let's get it crackin', man. Let's get it crackin' tonight. Ooh, how much you got? Dane been itching to get back on the court.
Starting point is 02:08:53 It's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. Bucks could definitely use this serve for the rest of the series. What's your expectation for Dane in his return tonight in game two against the Pacers? I got 20. Shout out to you, you took the hot. 20 plus. 17.5 points? I got 20. 20 plus.
Starting point is 02:09:05 17.5 points. You said 40. 20 plus. Dame Lillard is on the hot seat. He got to perform. With the blood clot? With or without it. With the blood clot. Want to rumble with the B, huh?
Starting point is 02:09:28 That's bad. Yeah. It's the feature and the non-feature. Which one you prefer? I like the feature, okay? So, yeah, they need to fucking...
Starting point is 02:09:37 He got to. He got to, bro. And it's like, even if it affects him a little bit... You got people with gargles trying to...
Starting point is 02:09:43 Yo, they at him. They looking at him. And then he wore the pants. Like, you can't wear the pants and then talk shit and then not show up. So you got to show up so you can wear the pants again. You know what I'm saying? Because they're probably comfortable. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:09:56 Even though they don't reach your ankles. Wear them shits when you... 25 or better. 25 or better. Hey, Tyrese Halliburton got to go, he got to go prepare for me now. Yeah. I like that energy. Show up, Dane, for sure.
Starting point is 02:10:12 Dane, brother, yeah. Something, shit, fight or score. Either one of those. You got to do one of the two. Fight or score. You got to fight or score. You can't go out there and get your ass flipped, man. Fuck nah.
Starting point is 02:10:26 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You go out there, you're going to lose the game by that. Yeah. He got them three young. Them young cats are going to be at his dome, too. Yeah. Catherine, Neemhart. Is that his name?
Starting point is 02:10:36 Neemhart. Neemhart. Yeah, I don't know. They're going at him. I think he's going to show up. I think he's going to show up. Bucks are supposed to be whipping their ass on paper. Uzma got to play.
Starting point is 02:10:47 Kuzma had a snail game in game one. Like, what are you... You hear what Doc said, though. What are you doing when you're out there? Did you see what Doc said, though? Nah. Doc basically was like, we got to give him the ball. He's out there.
Starting point is 02:11:02 He's a good player. We got to get him involved. So Doc said, it's hard to score when you don't touch the ball. Kuz can play, but we got to give him the ball. He's out there. He's a good player. We got to get him involved. So Doc said, it's hard to score when you don't touch the ball. Kuz can play, but we got to involve him, and we got to make sure we keep him involved. Yeah, I mean, like, you know he can go get it too, right? It's called the glass, right? Because I think he didn't do that either.
Starting point is 02:11:19 No, he had no rebounds. Like, I'm trying to figure out, like, at 16, what are you doing out there? Like, you know how hard it is not to get a rebound like you have to consciously Don't try to get do that. You got a college. It is be out there. You're gonna be off it You got to be like I'm off this like ah Cuz you can you can run into a rebound you can run into it Challenging all jump shots you get an assist on a swing, swing. Bro, a swing, swing.
Starting point is 02:11:47 And you make it. And it's an assist. I don't know. Nah, yeah, because they don't teach that rush to the corner shit. You right. Yeah. No more. That took Dame.
Starting point is 02:11:58 Yeah, it got to take Dame, man. Yeah. Yeah. Bobby Portis might have a good game tonight, though. Yeah. I ain't have a good game tonight, though. Yeah. I ain't going to sleep on Bobby. Brooke, not to show up as usual. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:12:12 I thought it was going to be a good game the way Porter came out dunking on him. I said, damn. First play. That's a little motherfucker. You want to go back to Nico? Yeah. I knew it. I was just thinking.
Starting point is 02:12:25 I was just trying to figure out, like, is this the first time that after the season, general managers are still having conversations with the media? Yeah, like, Darryl Morey did one recently. They do exit interviews at the conclusion of the season. Ah, bro. It's the first time they've been. The season was over last week. Okay, they needed time.
Starting point is 02:12:43 No, we can conclude it last week. Break him accordingly. All right, okay. When did Maury do his? I think he did his. Last week. Yeah, right before. Last week.
Starting point is 02:12:53 But the Sixers were not making the playoffs. They didn't make the playoffs either. They made the postseason, though, Gil. We're in the playing. I have some breaking news. I've been asking ChadPT about the Lakers and if they're going to win this fucking series or not. You know we only respect one AI's opinion on this couch, but...
Starting point is 02:13:17 Unfortunately, it's telling me Lakers in six. Did it trouble your heart to say that? No, because I said I agree. You agree? No, we don't want you to agree, though. I know. And you're wearing the LeBron jersey to jinxes. No, I'm not jinxing.
Starting point is 02:13:33 You threw all your LeBron jerseys away but kept the high school. I'm coming clean. I'm a man full of love and compassion. I believe you guys can do it in six, not three. Okay? Not Lakers in three. Lakers in three. But Lakers in six not three okay not Lakers in three but Lakers in six okay I believe
Starting point is 02:13:49 the children are the future you're trying to jinx us I believe we believe you threw away all your LeBron's Laker merchandise every time you worn a LeBron's Laker merchandise? Every time you've worn a LeBron jersey in a playback watch party, they have not performed well.
Starting point is 02:14:09 I'm just saying, man. I ain't going to be on there today and it's Irish day. You know what I'm saying? We do need the luck of the Irish. If he played like he was wearing this jersey, if he played like this guy. When he wore a younger man's jersey? Woo, shit. That was back when I was a fan.
Starting point is 02:14:24 Yeah. Wow. Boy, you got to go turn the clock back. You were a younger man's boy? Wooo shit! That was back when I was a fan. Yeah! Wow! Boy, you gotta go turn the clock back. Boy, I swear. I already put the cookies back if you start playing like this little nigga. Return the cookies to the jargon. Man, no way in hell we gonna lose today. Shit.
Starting point is 02:14:38 I'll put the house on the motherfucker for that. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm going to New Jersey right after this. Girl, you doing this. See? It's called Vando. Vando. It's a Vando jersey.
Starting point is 02:14:50 Girl, you doing a best ball draft right now? Yeah. On the Underdog app, which if you haven't downloaded already, you can and use promo code GILLY to get $1,000 in bonus cash. Vando was playing well, though. I ain't going to lie. He was playing well, yeah. Who?
Starting point is 02:15:03 Vando. Vando Lawrence? Even though he should have dunked that one layup when he missed and got hurt. Back to that, you think the Bucs evened up the series? And they got to stop putting them on NBA TV, man. Come on. They need to. What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:15:21 Nobody watching that shit, man. They can't get a TNT game shot? Come on, man. Just watch it. Y TNT game shot? Come on, man. Y'all know. It's the color schemes. Yeah. That dark green and yellow with pinstripes. That's relegation.
Starting point is 02:15:34 In a cornfield. Y'all motherfuckers playing in cornfields. We got your shit started 30 minutes before the main event. NBA team. Can't watch but one quarter. Yeah, I feel bad for them. They should have played last night at midnight. Yeah, that's for sure. NBA TV. Can't watch but one quarter. Yeah, I feel bad for them. They should have played last night at midnight. Yeah, that's for sure.
Starting point is 02:15:49 This morning. This morning. They're going to play now, man. That's like the Cavs, too, huh? The Cavs, too. The Cavs. Cavs Orlando. Boston.
Starting point is 02:16:00 Who's Boston playing? Orlando. Orlando Magic. Oh, who's Cavs playing? Cavs are playing the Heat. They are also relegated to the NBA T-U-V-I-4-2. That's insane.
Starting point is 02:16:10 They're in the West right now. It's crazy how they do the good things. They get mad at us on the show. Y'all don't talk enough Cavs. Y'all don't talk enough whatever. Look at what they're doing to them in the schedule. The Cavs literally play 4-30 Pacific
Starting point is 02:16:26 tomorrow, but there's a game that starts at 4 on TNT and a game that starts at 6.30 on TNT. Magic Celtics get the 4 o'clock slot on TNT. On what? On TNT. And Warriors Rockets also TNT. The middle of traffic type.
Starting point is 02:16:40 That shit is nasty. We can hear that on the radio. You can't even watch the game. But y'all have it up. Yeah, Donovan has 75 tonight. Anyways, Rockets and...
Starting point is 02:16:56 Oh my God. Seth had a cool seven points. It was exciting. Best seven points I've ever seen. Man. Best seven points I ever seen. Let me wonder why motherfuckers don't want to do shit for the NBA.
Starting point is 02:17:09 But y'all get mad at us. I had 75 points and y'all just, it was a cliff note. It just ran under. It was a fucking cliff note. Y'all get mad at us. And you see how
Starting point is 02:17:18 they do these things. They put a post-it up on the TV. We were talking about Nico before. We talk about Nico, boy, we talk about I got this TV. It was like, why you don't talk about the calves?
Starting point is 02:17:31 Nigga's like, when did they play? They played last night. They was on NBA TV. One by 100. I don't talk about my calves. What you talking about? I don't got no calves. You talking about my calves?
Starting point is 02:17:41 You talking about my calf muscles? That's not right, man. Even Boston played. No one gave a fuck.? That's not right, man. Even Boston played. No one gave a fuck. But that's not right. I didn't know. That's why I was like, yeah, man. That's not right.
Starting point is 02:17:52 The Cavs are number one team in the league. You get sandwiched in between the Celtics and Magic. The top two teams played and no one even talked about it. But Thunder Grizzlies at least get the TNT early game tonight. Huh? That's just, all right. But y'all mad at us. That's crazy, though.
Starting point is 02:18:12 They said we're going to put y'all on NBA TV. Shouldn't you force it? You should put it on TNT. Yes. Put it on TNT. That Cleveland-Miami game is just nasty. You have to make people watch it. Force feed them. Hey, just give it to TNT that Cleveland Miami game is just nasty you have to make people watch it
Starting point is 02:18:26 force feed them hey just give it to TNT force feed them you can't be doing this yeah now you gotta kill it's on the main shit eat this
Starting point is 02:18:34 Cleveland next round will be good Chuck and Shaq have to talk about it next round next round will be better no next round will be good but that's why
Starting point is 02:18:40 they gotta wait for next round for Cleveland we the number one team in the league that's the whole other week y'all got us on NBA TV the fact one team in the league. That's another week. Y'all got us on NBA TV. Listen, the fact that that's the point, they're going 4-0.
Starting point is 02:18:48 It's going to be 4-0. Who are they playing? Cleveland 4-0 in there. Who are they playing? Who are they playing? Milwaukee or Indiana? The winner. Yep.
Starting point is 02:18:55 Or Detroit. The winner is the winner. The winner is the winner. That's the winner. Detroit and the Knicks. If they play Indiana, we'll wait for the next. Shit. The winner of Pacers, but.
Starting point is 02:19:04 Hey, they're going to start. Cleveland is going to have to play back-to-back. Today, tomorrow, wait for the next. Shit. The winner of Pacers, Bucks. Cleveland is going to have to play back-to-back. Today, tomorrow, and then play Thursday. Get this series over with, man. Give them the baseball. It depends on who they play. Do they play them or New York? Y'all just rest, man. We ain't doing y'all right.
Starting point is 02:19:18 Not much better prospects for Cavs, Pacers, or back around. Cavs, Bucks may get. Yeah, Cavs, Bucks is better. But they don't do the Bucks. So that's the only matchup? So whoever wins Pacers Bucks series will face the Cavs in the second round. Damn.
Starting point is 02:19:33 Look how unexcited y'all are. See, but y'all madded up. Like, I'd rather... It should be Cavs-Boston. Yeah, that's what it should be. It should be Cavs-Boston. Now that's a matchup you want to watch. Well, if they get to... That's guard play. If they get to the conference finals, that's what it will be. It should be Cavs-Boston. Now that's a matchup you want to watch.
Starting point is 02:19:46 That's guard play. They get to the conference finals, that's what it will be. I mean for a second round. Giannis for Boston, that's a good matchup. And Cleveland-New York. And Cleveland-New York. Those are good too. Like if you want ratings to be good, if you're talking about TV ratings, Cavs versus New York, that's great.
Starting point is 02:20:14 Boston versus Milwaukee, that's great all across the nation. But the fact that you're going to have, if Cleveland plays Indiana, that's just going to be a series they don't watch. And again, fans, y'all are getting mad at us, but we're not the ones who made the schedule. Yeah, that's mad. If they were on TNT, we would watch it. Just Indiana. Just saying that. It's hard to navigate TNT. I want you to put Caitlyn Clark on that motherfucking team.
Starting point is 02:20:33 I'll roll with it. You got to put Caitlyn out there. I'll go show up and watch it. No Caitlyn. Not a Trump. Nuh-uh. Well, shout out to Caitlyn Clark. I got hurt.
Starting point is 02:20:44 Can't wait. 13 days. I heard what you hurt. I heard what you said. I heard what you said. Ain't nothing good in Indiana, but yeah. Huh? Isn't that what? I said ain't nothing good in Indiana, but Trump. Trump?
Starting point is 02:20:57 Yeah. You ain't never been to Indiana. They literally put them in the middle. You ain't never been to Indiana. That's what I'm saying. I am. That's dirty. You don't remember he got game? What college he went to where he had two girls in the middle. That's what I'm saying. You don't remember he got
Starting point is 02:21:05 what college he went to where he had two girls in the bed? He was in Indiana, boy. You know who Trump I'm talking about. You don't know who Trump? Who? Who?
Starting point is 02:21:20 The most important one. The most important one? Who? The best actor. Oh, I mean, they game three Saturdays at 10 a.m. Not Donald, it's T-Trump. T-Trump. Not Donald.
Starting point is 02:21:36 Think of a T-Trump. Very successful actor. Yeah. Oh, that Trump. Yeah. Yeah. Now that's a whole different vibe. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:48 Man. She don't answer none of the DMs. No DM responding? That's Indiana. Hey, you leading with hello. I am. I am. You can't lead with hello.
Starting point is 02:21:59 But I lead with the money bag, too. No, no, it has to be a number. It has to be cash. Oh, not cash. It's three sides. It should be three to four. Three bags? That should be the number. It should be like the money sign as one
Starting point is 02:22:13 and then like if it's under 10K it should be nine and then K. If it's over that then it's supposed to be like 10-0-K. I just do money bag. Money bag represent the Ks. I give you 10 money bags. Nah, they say yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:28 You're fucking around. You got to count them, baby. You're fucking around. They don't count. They got to see the number. Sometimes I give them seven. Sometimes I give them six. Yeah, I can't leave it.
Starting point is 02:22:36 I can't do a number. They're going to be like, yeah, I can't leave the work if it's under 5K. So you got to see the number. The money bag is like, you playing. You know, you ain't working no. Do you haggle? Is there negotiation? Hell no.
Starting point is 02:22:47 Performance bonuses? No. None of those things. Well, let's move on to Mostly Fam. He ain't got what I got. I ain't listening to him. Presented by Underdog. Download the app.
Starting point is 02:22:56 Use promo code GIL. Gives $1,000 bonus cash plus a special pick. A very productive day here in the arena. A lot was learned about basketball life. Nico Harrison. DM me. I look forward to Indiana. Let's pray for Nico though because he
Starting point is 02:23:09 took his soul. He might be a vampire now. For sure. He out there sinning. He out here sinning. First question. Underdog user Luke Bongley. Not Luke Longley, Luke Bongley.
Starting point is 02:23:26 What do you think of Ant-Man getting fined 50K for telling a Lakers fan, my dick is bigger than yours? My dick is bigger than yours. It was cold that night. Shit. I don't want to get fined for saying it. The way you said it was kind of reckless, though. That's the only thing.
Starting point is 02:23:42 Very reckless. It was very reckless. In the crowd with kids and shit? Yeah. What did the fans say for you to even get to that point? I think he was talking about Gobert. Talking about Gobert. He was like, he got $200 million.
Starting point is 02:23:57 He got $300 million. And then it went to him. He just injected himself. And pointed out that he had more junk in the front than whoever the fan was he was talking to. Which is even more weird. Because how would he? It would have been weirder if Gobert would have been like, yeah, he do.
Starting point is 02:24:12 Why would I even? I thought Gobert did. It is. Man. You know who the fan was? He had to be sitting next to a baddie. I hope it wasn't Jacob Imrani for all my L.A. people out there. That man's sick.
Starting point is 02:24:22 I love it. I love playoff ant. Accident or injury? I love playoff Ant. Accident or injury. I love playoff Ant though. Probably the same person as your face. It was reckless, but I love playoff Ant. That's too reckless.
Starting point is 02:24:35 Nah, fuck it. That's the future face of the league. Yeah, you got to be Ant. Fuck it. You got your little man, little Nick sitting there with you, man. Hey, shit. You see how he did it say the same thing cuz he's how much money ain't got a lot a lot and he paying
Starting point is 02:24:51 bitches off one lump sum that's the go go to me visionary no gotta pay a bitch off it all at once what is the standard fine now? Is it the standard fine, 50 grand? That's like. That's got to be. That's all I get. That's all I get. 50.
Starting point is 02:25:12 50. Fine. Damn. 50. 50 is fine. My dick bigger than yours. Was it worth it? Is that?
Starting point is 02:25:21 No, it wasn't worth it. No, it wasn't. He went a little too far, but yeah. Ain't no fine worth $50,000. Yeah. He went way too far. To talk to a fan? $50,000?
Starting point is 02:25:33 And no work is involved or nothing? He was defending his homie, though. Think about that. My homie ain't worth $50,000? Man, he done paid. Come on, man. You got to think. John got $75,000 for the imaginary man he not passing me no work
Starting point is 02:25:47 nigga what you want I mean he can afford it but with some pranks Joss 75 for the imaginary finger guns okay so when the league find you do you have to write them a check
Starting point is 02:26:02 that would be a question you could probably answer for us. I've never been fined by the NBA. I can't even get credentialed for a basketball game. But you can get it back, though, sometimes. I don't know. You don't even really have to pay that motherfucker, actually, because it's not coming from the team. Like you said, it's coming from the league.
Starting point is 02:26:21 Remember, we get fined out of our checks because it's coming from the team. That's what I'm saying. So does the league send the, we get fined out of our checks because it's coming from... That's what I'm saying. So does the league send the team a check? Ah. And say, hey, you need to pay this
Starting point is 02:26:30 $75. Because it's not being issued from the team. It's being issued from the league. I know, yeah. So that means
Starting point is 02:26:39 they must send it to the team and the team must take it out your check. Yeah. Because I wouldn't pay that. Because you're going to have to take it out your check. Yeah. Because I wouldn't pay that shit. You're going to have to take it out all of our checks. It's just going to be sitting.
Starting point is 02:26:49 It's going to sit there. So nobody feel it. You know what I mean? You know what? How about this, Lee? Give me my money on the 1st of October 1st, and then if they find me, they got to come to me. Yep. I'll pay you next week.
Starting point is 02:27:01 Then we can negotiate. Next week, I'll pay you. I spent it. So we have another underdog question from user fatter lever That's back-to-back them to to move on fatter lever do two good ones good job good job to our producer for acknowledging quality underdog users With the Hawks firing GM Landry field is Trey young more likely to be on the move? So Hawks fired their GM. Oh, shit, he was.
Starting point is 02:27:27 Landry Fields. That explains everything. That explains everything. Oh, man. We should apply for jobs. Yeah. You know what my team's going to look like? Landry Fields.
Starting point is 02:27:38 You mean Landry Fields? Yeah. I don't know, dude. I mean, you know, it's all, I mean, Trae Young is, I mean, his body of work says it all. I mean, you're Atlanta. You have to build through just smart drafts and smart signings in the summer. And you guys haven't. You've traded pieces away. You haven't really put a piece
Starting point is 02:28:08 that really compliments Was he there when they made it to the Eastern Conference Finals? I don't know. He was a member of that team. He was? He was. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:28:24 Was he what? Was he the GM or whatever when they made it to the Easter Cup finals? With Atlanta. Yeah, he was playing still then you feel yeah Let me double check. Come on with Jeff Teague in them. No, no, we're true. We're true Yeah, maybe they beat New York and Philly and lost to the ballucs. That time. Oh, yeah, I think so. And then they got. I didn't even know he was the manager. He was promoted to general manager of the Hawks in 2022. That was it.
Starting point is 02:28:53 Oh, yeah, that was it. Was it that year? That was that year, I think. Wait, I know. The season is before. June of 2022 was when he was promoted to general manager. When did they make it to the Eastern Conference? I'm pulling it up right now for you, Gil. But he was on
Starting point is 02:29:05 the team already, though. Yeah, so that was, they made that run in 2021. Oh, so he got promoted after. Yeah. Yeah. They was happy. They went through some shit after. Atlanta hasn't had anything
Starting point is 02:29:21 since they drafted Trae Young. They had what was called a Murray. Nothing. But yeah, he got two small guards. But he was an all-star in San Antonio. Right? They haven't had anybody that's been worthy of an all-star other than him. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:29:37 So you move him. Yeah. Right away. Yeah. Move him. Mm. He has no value there. But there's a young fella that's coming in, though.
Starting point is 02:29:44 Huh? Young fella that's coming in, though. Huh? Young fella coming in. No, they ain't. No. Daniels, but. Nah. They supposed to have made the playoffs, so that's why. They're supposed to beat Miami.
Starting point is 02:29:56 They're playing on. I mean, then your number one pick is just not athletic. He's literally a shooting guard with no athleticism. They like Miami with Jimmy Butler or just Jimmy. They're kind of like the same. And you make that draft, yeah. You make that pick. I can say, like, you know, he looks special, but it's like he just looks like he's going to be just a regular two guard in the NBA.
Starting point is 02:30:23 What do you pick, though? Who do you pick? You got to shake some shit up, bro. At that position? But you had the number three pick, right? Yeah, number one pick. Who's the number one pick? If I'm going to go to shooting guard,
Starting point is 02:30:38 I'm going to get the goddamn seven-foot shooting guard that Washington got. Washington was number one pick, wasn't he? No, they was number two. So Reese O'Shea went number one. The Hawks, Sar went number two to the Wizards. Yeah, I'm shaking shit up, man. He probably did great in ones by himself.
Starting point is 02:30:54 Yeah. Probably looked good, solid, back going by himself. Landry seems like an overseas dude, man. Probably just picking best available. Pick the best available. That's what I was hearing all the time. We just picked the best available, man. You on the board.
Starting point is 02:31:12 Got you at 17. Got you at 12. You was the best one that's available. I would have picked San Antonio person. What's his name? Castle. Castle, yeah. I would have at least had it like, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:31:24 Castle or... I don't know. Castle or... I don't know how... I don't do shit. I don't know how agents have allowed teams to let these guys come in here by themselves. Like, I'm Atlanta. I'm Wizards. Like, I have the number one, two pick.
Starting point is 02:31:41 You're not going to tell me what you're going to do? Like, if this is who I'm looking at, I'm going to bring you. I'm going to bring this guy and this guy in. I need you all to battle for a couple of days. The fact that you think you can come in here and just work out by yourself. There's cone drills. Everybody looks good in cones. The fact that they're even evaluating you off of fucking cones or playing against a coach like fuck that
Starting point is 02:32:06 coach he ain't played basketball he wasn't good when he played let alone he can guard you nah you gonna play against this guy who's coming in with you let me see y'all battle so I can you know really get a sense of how you actually play this game three team trade three team trade
Starting point is 02:32:22 hey Trey Young Zion Williamson, Kevin Durant, and you throw DeMarge Rosen in there. Where they land? They got to land somewhere.
Starting point is 02:32:38 As long as we get one. They got to land somewhere. I don't give a fuck where they land. I don't even give a fuck. You. I don't even get KD and Zion out of that. You think Zion don't end up in Atlanta? He don't need to be in Atlanta. Yeah. With a fresh team?
Starting point is 02:32:52 Are you trying to put him with other good players? Zion? Are you trying to give him his own team? Have you seen Zion? Zion needs to play with another good player. I think he's a compliment. Yes, but not Atlanta. Well, you bring somebody with him.
Starting point is 02:33:06 He needs a quiet, lit city like Phoenix or something. DeMar and Zion? New York? Miami? Miami would be good. No, think of Zion. They'll get him in state. They'll get him in state.
Starting point is 02:33:22 They'll get him in state. No, he'll be miserable because he's young and he won't want to party. It's Miami, man. They're going to beat in shape. They're going to be in shape. They're going to be in shape. No, he'll be miserable because he's young and he won't want to party. It's Miami, man. They're going to beat that out of him. It's private, everything. Y'all come to the crib. We ain't going nowhere. I promise you.
Starting point is 02:33:34 All of them are going to be out here. He's going to be like Hassan Whiteside. They don't even tell you stories about him. What? What? He got that money and turned into, I don't even hoop no more. That's what Miami do if you ain't got the Clippers. I see the Clippers trying to make a run for Zion.
Starting point is 02:33:49 That's what I'm about to say. That's nasty, too. Yeah, I think they look like they'll make a run for him, especially the way they play. You got stars, and then you just got a ducking guy who's going to play hard. I see them trying to make a move. So you think Zion going west? I mean east?
Starting point is 02:34:06 Zion go east? Yeah. He go east. He'd be all NBA quick as shit. Charlotte with LaMelo. That's another person they got to get rid of. Cooper Flagg. Are you from the south?
Starting point is 02:34:23 I think he put Zion with Ja and just them two. They need to be together. I just feel like it's too reckless. They need to be together. That's the must-see TV, though. Think about it. They need to be together. Must-see TV.
Starting point is 02:34:37 Oh, my God, that'll be must-see TV. Them two, whoo. On that note. I mean, the city done, though. They got the trade. But them two on that note, I mean a city done though, but They both got some bad habits like that's crazy you had to put them somewhere else Shit they go be they put them up. I said Disney gotta be on lockdown 24-. Just let them niggas out to play games. What did you say? Jurassic Park. Click, click, click.
Starting point is 02:35:12 It's time to play. No guns, no holes. No guns, no holes. No guns, no holes, man. They in rehab for real, man. And on that note, a good place for us to wrap up for today. I obviously appreciate everybody on this
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Starting point is 02:36:08 I turned 40. What's the name of the song? Oh, there's a lot of them. I don't even keep up. That's just rap. I don't even give a fuck. Last time you did something for me. All right, are we going to play back tonight?
Starting point is 02:36:20 Fucking had strippers in the closet. Unfortunately. You going to be at the game play backing? Trying to figure it out. All right. He's about to turn 40? Somebody in the media, hook your loop up with the stapler's Wi-Fi.
Starting point is 02:36:30 I turn 40, June 1. I can't do nothing for you, man. Last time my birthday, man, strippers in the closet. In the closet? I can't hold it. I'm trying to sleep in the closet. You got closeted strippers? What'd she come out and say she was?
Starting point is 02:36:44 She was all in my shoes. They had some of the best times of their life. Hey, listen, Vegas travels. Damn. You can bring Vegas to you. But this has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. We will see y'all tomorrow.

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