Gil's Arena - KD's Take On Leaving OKC BLOWS AWAY Gil's Arena

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Victor Wembanyama Is ALREADY The Best Player In The NBA according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Victor Wembanyama calling himself the best player in the league in just his 3...rd season and debate if the Alien is spitting or tripping with his self assesment before discussing the Spurs' ceiling if their franchise superstar can stay healthy. They then react to Dillon Brooks continuing to poke the bear that is LeBron James as the notorious villain finally spoke to the media following his hostile ejection and discuss Luka Doncic taking the blame for the Los Angeles Lakers' recent struggles on the defensive end of the court. Next, they discuss more information coming out about Chris Paul getting sent home from the Los Angeles Clippers and debate if the Clippers will do right by their franchise icon as the situation may be exposing more about the organization than the player before reacting to Kevin Durant's recent appearance on Fred VanVleet's podcast where the future NBA Hall Of Famer detailing his decision to leave the OKC Thunder during his prime and gave his take on why the NBA All Star Game has gone downhill. Finally, the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to Kevin Garnett finally reconciling with the Minnesota Timberwolves' organization to get his number retired and give their ideas on how the NBA can improve the NBA Cup as Adam Silver weighs options to change the league's midseason classic. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Rashad McCants & Swaggy P Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:01:55 Wemby Is The Best Player In The NBA 0:07:08 Dillon Brooks Needs To Change His Brand 0:31:45 Luka Takes The Blame For Lakers Bad Defense 0:51:07 Clippers Vow To Do Right By Chris Paul 1:07:52 Nobody Showed Up To CP3's Halloween Party 1:13:48 Kevin Durant Speaks On Leaving OKC 1:22:58 KD Says He Doesn't Shower 1:52:20 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:37 He did. I don't know. I think he's scared. He said he didn't want to vodka. He said he's scared. Not a pugilist. Yeah. I didn't even notice the gloves.
Starting point is 00:00:50 The gloves fit. You might get hit. But this is Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Wooop. I'm merely a host Josiah Johnson. Johnson, as always, we've got the NBA legend and current NBA 2K player. Gilbert Arena's back here with him. Not a legend, just a player.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Still getting cooked, huh? Huh? Still getting cooked? You can't get cooked every time you sit on this couch. Yeah, I mean... Do you ever win? Yeah, like... Fuck.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Yeah, like, was today a better morning? Like, can we get the legend? First of all, just morning that and play. No. I did my sister game. It was the anniversary yesterday. Are you the Bob? Wait, where, whew, whew, whew.
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Starting point is 00:01:38 You like that type of shit. You want to shoot everything and just... No, Gilby getting froze out a lot. Yeah. On these games. They'd be making me Draymond Green on that motherfucker like... Like I spent my... Like, I'd be spending my $140 to sit in the corner.
Starting point is 00:01:53 No, bro. Being talked to like... Like, I don't know basketball. basketball. Get over in the corner. Wait till we do this. Back door. Like, wait, just give me the ball. Let me do my thing. You're a corner dude. I'm the most expensive corner dude. 2K will humble you. Amen. No, no. They are paying a corner of you. Oh. They paying them. The geeks were. They're paying the corner of a lot of money in there. No, not, not. Not on 2K. But that's you. I was like, why did I spend my money? I got to just set out of here for free. See the next. I got six million VC. Can't do nothing with it. They hurt, don't it? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Seed next to gear, we have NBA champion of the world. The Educated Brother. The Educator brother. Swaggy Pete, Nick Young, back here with us. And on this side of the couch, we have the man they call Cemetery Larry, NCAA champion in the world, Rashad McCants. Boxing, Camp. The Champ is here.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Okay. The champ is here. And last but not least, represent tough crowd and a card-carrying country club member. We got Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. I like this. Yeah, man, you see how the golf inspired y'all, man. I love it. February 12, too. By the way, all-star weekend, February 12th, my golf event.
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Starting point is 00:03:40 A legal sanctioned event. All to enjoy, February 12th. You can win a car. I say you can win a truck. Like if you hit a hole in one or closest to the pen, yeah, we're going to give out a pickup truck. A ram. Closest to the pin? Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Uh-oh. Closest to it? Not even got to go away. No, just closest to it. We'll be on the lookout February 12th, All-Star Weeker here in Los Angeles. We've got a lot of things to discuss. Here's what's cracking in Gil's Arena today. Wimby thinks he's the best player in the league right now.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Is the alien spitting or tripping? KD blamed Steph and Damien Lillard for ruining the All-Star game, but is that fax or cap? And after a long-standing fallout, Kevin Garnett, and the wolves are finally reuniting, We look back on the big tickets impact in Minnesota, but before we get into all that, as always, this show was brought to you by Underdog. New to Underdog, Use Code Gilling, get $75 in bonus entries when you play your first $5 entry and a Ken Walker, give me pick.
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Starting point is 00:04:59 wherever you get your podcast from. So Spurs coming off, their first NBA Cup title game appearance. Did not get it done, but Wimby came out on fire to start this season. Averaging 26 points, 13 rebounds, nearly four blocks, and one steal in his first 11 games before being sidelined with a calf strain, with many considering him to be a front runner in both the MVP and defensive player of the year discussions at that point,
Starting point is 00:05:23 mailing returned for the NBA Cup did work in limited minutes. So during an interview with ESPN's Malika Andrews before the NBA Cup's semis, Wimmy was asked who he thinks is the best player in the league, and he had this response saying, quote, Yokic is the best offensive player. I don't think he's the best player. I think it's between Janice and Shea. When I come back on the court, I think it'll be me.
Starting point is 00:05:45 So Wimby may have been limited by a minute's restriction in these past two games, but still showed how important he is to the Spurs and the future of the league. So you heard what Wimby just said I want to ask this couch, do you agree with Wimby for saying that he's the best player in the league? He didn't say he was the best player in the league. He said when I come back, I will be the best.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It'll be me. When he comes back full healthy. And he has come back. He has risen. No, I don't think. He didn't mean like soon as he step on, he plays 10 minutes. I think when he said he's coming back and he's playing full minutes, he's back starting. The fact that he can wreck, I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:21 He's very intelligent because he looks at the game as if he's researched 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s basketball. So he can separate the difference between offense overall. He has the understanding of the full game of basketball and how he said it. He's right. Offensively, what everything Joker brings offensively to the game, he can say he's the best at it, right? When you're talking about the full-
Starting point is 00:06:55 inch-per-inch or just the best? The full package of it. You have- Full package of it? You have Shea who plays both sides of the court and you have somebody like Yannis who plays both sides of the court. So he feels as what his defense is and what he brings to the offensive side. When he's playing at a very high level,
Starting point is 00:07:16 he can say that his total package of what he brings He is the best player in NBA. Total package. Total package. Educated brother on the end of the couch. No, he's not tripping out, but he has the 10 to go back into being a lunchtime baller. But the potential is there. Also, like him to mention Castle.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Castle is turning into one of my favorite players, too. He's turning into an all-of-round great player on his team. But for Wimby, he got it. It's hard to beat 6-4, I mean 7-4 that could do everything that the guys he mentioned does, but play both sides of the floor. I think he's like in that, like the Kobe Fromo when he came back and he's starting to realize his game and where he's at amongst the players in the NBA. And yeah, you see.
Starting point is 00:08:21 That's why you say it's the potential to go back to being a lunchtime, Hoover. Do you feel like he's escaped that lunchtime Hooper stigma that you placed on him last season? Yeah, he listened, you know, you know, you know. But he came out the gates, you know, wanting to prove, you know, educated brother Rome. But like in games, like in the cup final, I mean, the championship game, whatever, the end-season championship, like that fourth quarter, he starts selling him for more. more threes and forcing threes and stuff instead of sticking to his the game playing he's been doing all year so let's move to this aside of the couch mr. B you
Starting point is 00:08:58 agree with Wimby saying he thinks he's the best player in the league he has the ability to be I think if he gets a couple more game some more games under his belt go deeper into the playoffs I mean you know defensively I mean he's definitely gonna be one of the best defensive greatest defensive players ever if he stays healthy but it's just time you know It just takes time right now. You know, SGA, Yonis, Yokis, they're all already proven and they're already still going right now.
Starting point is 00:09:25 But I think if he makes more deeper runs than the playoffs and stay healthy, you know, and, you know, get easier shots offensively and be able to put the whole, you know, everything together, I think it'll be okay. Ashad, you've been a big fan of Wemby. Nix and Wimby were you two teams, I believe, entering this season.
Starting point is 00:09:44 You appreciate the confidence from Wembe saying that he thinks he's the best player. in the league, Kurt. Well, you know, I like to talk who. So we're going to do that. Let's go back to the one notion that he brought to the beginning of the season, which was sorting out other players in the history of the game, trying to take the knowledge and wisdom from what they have,
Starting point is 00:10:07 putting it into his game. The potential has always been there. I was talking to my sister the other day about how, when he played against Rudy Gaubert when he was 16, 17 years old, proven that he can actually take a leap forward based on just his raw abilities. I think still now with the spurs, he's being held back just a little bit based on him having to play in the reference of finding out how they're going to build around him in the totality of his talents. So a lot of the things that he was doing in the championship game was based on the flow of the game,
Starting point is 00:10:40 how the team was playing, and him not having to force things up, but still having a minute's restriction. So if you think about coming off the bench being cold, you want to get into the floor of the game. So you throw up a couple shots just to see if you can get the flow of the game, get the fill of the game. He's not a big man. I think that's the one notion we have to get out of with him, and he's not a five. He is a guard. He is Bobo. He is one of those guys that we have to really respect the fact that he's never played a big man position.
Starting point is 00:11:08 But defensively, he does what he's supposed to do. He changes the game. He makes people change their shot. He made people question whether they should go inside or not. That alone just changes his trajectory when it comes to him thinking that he can be the best player. And I think that's the number one thing everybody needs to pay attention to. He said this is what I think of myself. Everybody else don't have to think that he is.
Starting point is 00:11:32 But my notion is his. I think that he is. And I think that he should keep that confidence, the same confidence Anthony Edwards had when he came out saying what he said about himself. and if he keeps that, that energy is going to trickle down throughout the whole team and they are going to feel the same way. Like what you said?
Starting point is 00:11:50 I said, I forgot about it, man. Yeah, but your point, too, I think with Wimby, it's the totality of the game, right? What I can do on the defensive side, I may not be there offensively on Yonk's level yet getting there, but I bring on that other side a potential defensive player of the year candidate every season as long as you can hit that 65 game threshold.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah, the upside. The upside is his offense. because it's so raw, right? He has all the tools to be an unstoppable offensive force. As what he's lacking is the IQ of scoring the ball, right? Reading the defense.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Like he has basketball IQ, but like a scoring IQ understanding what a defense is trying to do, how to combat that. He doesn't have the pure offensive players' minds yet. Right? He has a basketball mind. But, you know, when you're talking about just a straight hooper,
Starting point is 00:12:52 like a dude who knows how to just get bucket, like a Brunson mindset, right, where you know how to manipulate, okay, he's coming from here, let me jump this way, let me fake this pass. Once he starts reading how his defensive, he will stop forcing random shit thinking he's open, right? Because he would know he's open because he would know that, Okay, I have this little guy here. I'm shooting this.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Okay, I'm going to take two dribbles. He's going to swipe through, so I'm going to take these little two, let him swipe, pull it over, shoot. Once he starts doing that, and you will see it quick, then you will understand. It seems like Cooper Flagg right now has more offensive patience and understanding of offense than Wemby does. But Wemby's ceiling is very, very, it's way higher than Cooper Flags will be. It's hard because he could do so much out there. Because he wants to do, like, he wants to show so much. He wants to, like, he really wants to show that he can,
Starting point is 00:13:47 Bing, Bing, Bing, I got it all when some games don't need it all. You don't really need it all. That's true. You have more than enough. You have 99 dribbling, but you don't, you don't really need it. It's like, there's no 99 defense out there for you. So, you know, just make it easier for you. Then once he starts doing that, then the sky is the limit.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Speaking of the limit, Spurs 18 and 7 to start this season, tied with the Lakers. With that 18 to 7 record, Lakers are the 3rd, Spurs of the 4th seed based on tiebreakers. That's with Wimby being sidelined for nearly half of their games. They were 34-48 last season of Wimby missing 36 games due to injury. 9 and 3 in the 12 games Wimby missed this season. So when you look at this Spur squad, as currently constructed,
Starting point is 00:14:31 what's the Spur's ceiling this season if Wimby can stay healthy? Westman-Ruffins finals? You think they could get to the Western Conference Finals with this squad? With him healthy and the way they plan, yeah. They definitely have a good chance of getting there. Yeah, for sure. He need one of those moments, though. I think that would boost his confidence to having that.
Starting point is 00:15:00 What was it, LeBron versus Boston? That type of playoff. He need one of those. Sean, when you look at the Spurs Squad, when do you feel like the Spurs ceiling and the women can stay healthy? I think they make a good trade for another big man because they could take it all the way. You think that if they trade for it, what caliber of big man when they need to trade for
Starting point is 00:15:22 it for you to be confident that they could take it all the way? Mitchell Robinson type. Another coordinator out there, offensive rebounder, Arkansas type. Give Wemby some breathers out there. I think they got everything else they need. I think with Castle, he makes a lot of second year mistakes, jump passes, just turnovers that are just unforced a lot of times, just due to his inexperience.
Starting point is 00:15:58 They have everything you need, like I said before. Even Sohan being on the bench, they still got Kelly Olinick over. there. And I said, you know, Wemby's being underutilized at this point just based on team morale. So give him another big and they'll be set because right now, Cornet can't do it by itself out there. He's not enough. He does to have a defensive presence that Wemby does. You give somebody to have another defender out there that's big enough to do what they did against OKC. That was the difference maker. And I think if OKC is the standard in the league as a top team to beat to get to the championship and you can beat them the way that we
Starting point is 00:16:42 beat them due to the defense that wendy possesses in the paint presence we can do that I think giving him good minutes every now and again get them back on the floor on and off it'd be dope so they definitely got a chance to win it all fuck the halfway they can win it all first round exit Let me just be honest. You don't think this first team can win a playoff series in Adam Silver's Western. He said first run, actually. He said first one they play.
Starting point is 00:17:15 They play like the Warriors. I mean, they beat the Warriors. I mean, they've got to be so high up there that they're playing the bottom C. Warriors. Right now, where they are, they're going to be playing either. As it looks right now, Minnesota, Houston. Yeah, this means nothing, but the Rockets are Timberwolves, the 5th or 6th. You're talking about a team that.
Starting point is 00:17:36 that their defense is good because of Wembe, right? Meaning if he's healthy, they're great defensively. Offensively, they're not as good as you think, right? They still don't know what they're doing offensively. They struggle offensively. They put the ball, but their defense is what's holding now. You got two guys who can't shoot a brick from the field, I mean, from the three or the free throw line.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Your two guards that are athletic, they're shooting, what, 20% from the three and they're shooting like low 70 from the free throw line. So they're still trying to find their way and we know when the playoffs that floor shrinks and they're going to force you, they're going to force Castle to shoot a lot of threes. They're going to force Harper to shoot a lot of threes, right? So because because you need your guard play here in the playoffs and your big is playing like a guard. I don't see them winning a seven-game series against an elite team
Starting point is 00:18:39 that understands offense and defense. So I don't see them beating Houston in seven-game series. They're not beating Denver in a seven-game series. You think because too many guards got the green light? No, it's just, it's still basketball, right? You know, you're still raw. Like, OK, see, when they play Dallas?
Starting point is 00:18:56 But, like, what are they players, though? But, like, what are their players? Whoever get it just go? Or is it? Right, you look for the mismatch, right? you, like, you're going to have to really minimize your bad shooting. So when we're coming down, shooting long threes, that's not going to work. Like, you beat an okay team shooting 41%.
Starting point is 00:19:14 You're shooting 41%. You, you, like, who was favorite in the Knicks series? Nix. They actually were favorite. From Vegas, Vegas had them favorite, and they covered that spread. Right? So you beat OKC, you didn't get no. No, okay, we think you're going to win this championship
Starting point is 00:19:36 because you have a lot of flaws and the flaws that's putting the ball in the basket at a high rate. You don't think these next two games they got coming up with OKC does a lot about their season? Do you think they're going to beat Houston in a seven-game series? Right now? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:53 So, like, you know what I mean? Because we know one thing that they do, what OKC do have, right? They have offensive guys who can consistently put the ball in the basket. No, I think it comes to experience. That is. No, that's what I'm saying. So I think D Fox can help, though?
Starting point is 00:20:09 Can I answer the question? Go ahead. The OKC hit shots against the Spurs? No. It's no. No. No, they both show 41%. So that means that usually OKC hit shots, right?
Starting point is 00:20:20 Yeah, so one game they didn't hit shots. Right. So the Spurs not hitting shots in the game against the Knicks. It just wasn't hitting shots. They had open looks, Harrison Barnes. All those guys are missing. shot wide open shots champagne these are shots that would put us up 15 put us up 20 but it didn't so because we didn't hit shots right so if we're going to talk hoop we know the game it's a game
Starting point is 00:20:46 of runs it's a game of if we're hitting shots tonight or we're not hitting shots tonight if we hit shots in a seven game series three games out of seven that's anybody anybody but if you can't be anybody because Charlotte you're looking at other certain teams it don't have the credibility. Portland beat. Okay. 100%. So listen what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Listen, okay, you can ignore it just to go against me. But I'm saying our team to spurs if we're hitting shots, not Castle, but the guy who's supposed to hit shots, we have a very high probability of winning any series. Why? Because we play defense at the same clip as OKC, the same clip as any of the high defensive rate of teams. defensive rated teams. And we match up good with Houston. So the difference is only going to be in making shots
Starting point is 00:21:41 and who's going to make the other team take tough shots. So when I said, what I said, their offense is the problem. If they're not making shots, it's going to be hard for them to win the series. That's what I was saying. So against OKC, they didn't make shots, nor OKC made shots. They won that game. the next game they didn't make shots the other team made shots
Starting point is 00:22:04 the other team won that game so when you're saying that if they make shots three games they win those three but the other four games that they didn't make shots they lose that game that's all I'm saying they need to get their offense stability my guy you said what you said you didn't have to rebuttal I'm saying what you're
Starting point is 00:22:20 saying you said I disagree you're right man I believe that this is a game I asked the question starting off I asked the question. They hit shots, they're going to win. They're going to win games because they play both sides of the box. So you basically said the thing.
Starting point is 00:22:39 But what is, what if you got to be able to win without making shots? What is the question for? You got to be able to win the hard games when you're not making shots. We just made, we just won a hard game. I mean, our game did beat the Thunder, both shot 41% in the field, spurts, shot 41% again in the NBA Cup title game. Nick shot 47%. And our main guy's on minute restriction. He's playing 20 minutes a game.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah, we said that, yeah, I said that yesterday. I said that's why that was the difference. So do you anticipate this first squad trying to make a move to bolster this roster? We have talked previously about when they would go all in to start making this. But do you think they'd beat the Lakers in a seven-game series? I was thinking that. I was looking at the teams who would make a beat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Yeah. I don't know. I don't know, but that's what I'm saying. It's different. It's different in the playoffs. It's different in the playoffs. It's only because it's just they're, I'm not worried, like, they will defend, they will, in a playoff series, they will hold everybody 50% and below. I don't see anyone jumping up and having a 60, 70% game against them.
Starting point is 00:23:54 So I have everyone sitting about 50 to, to low 40s. on their offense, but the problem is, can they have a consistent 50% output? That's the question in the playoffs, because the playoffs is making them play offense in a half court. And that becomes a difference with guys who don't shoot the ball. And the big that wants to play on the outside. So it's going to be, when he's on the outside, you're not getting your offense to rebounds, right? And then when your guards do get foul shooting at a low 70%, I mean, it's, If you have a bad matchup, if you have any decent matchup, Houston, you got Houston, you got Denver, you got Timberwolves, right?
Starting point is 00:24:42 Those guys in the playoffs, they have go-to guys who understand how to put the ball in the basket at a very high level. So it's just the matchup, I have them going out in the first round in a seven-game series. If they play the Warriors, then maybe, yeah. But Wimby is a change in the half-defense. No, but just throwing him a ball and a post. You don't post. We can't think of how we would play the game. We got to think about how they actually play the game.
Starting point is 00:25:09 The way that we actually play the game now is far as from my perspective. Castle, Fox, going to put pressure on the rim more. Their offense is predicated to flare screens into picking rolls. Those flare screens into picking rolls are based on trying to create the mismatches. regardless if it's coronet or Wimby. And based on that, Castle is not shooting a high rate at three-point shots.
Starting point is 00:25:35 He is trying to get to the rail. Vassel the same way. But Vassel can actually shoot the ball. Fox, where does Fox want to go? He only going to shoot open threes. He's not going to come down and try to shoot contested threes. He's trying to get to the free throw line jump shot.
Starting point is 00:25:50 So if we're really talking to hoop, it's based on not necessarily getting Wimby in the post, but getting him clean shots. We get him clean shots. Johnson off the bench him him and Harrison Barnes here's him and Harrison Barnes wasn't hitting shots the last two games this is somebody who's going to hit shots so I believe that the rate of getting to the free throw line putting pressure on teams like Houston putting pressure on their back line making sure they
Starting point is 00:26:14 foul the more we get to the line even if we're shooting 70% from the free throw line the more shots we shoot from the free throw line the more chances we got to make those shots I said throwing in a post because in the playoffs they strength the paint and for me I don't think right now Castle has the ability to create like that like to one guy that's one guy even with Fox we don't play ISO ball when you talk about playoffs you say listen let's go to the pick and roll that's attacking though to the pick and row we're not talking about just let's do ISO drink the paint on that thing you shrink the paint on the pick and roll what we're doing I'm shrinking that's why I'm saying it would be
Starting point is 00:26:52 better for me to throw it in the post and let me be create you still shrinking. You still shrinking? He's tall. You're shrinking in the paint. That means you're doubling. Right? So then we got champagne. We got Vassil on the outside and we got wide open threes now. We're playing a number. We're playing a numbers game at that point. And if you're in the playoffs, you're going to play a numbers game, you're going to live by, die by that. Yeah. We're willing to
Starting point is 00:27:18 we take that chance. Fuck it. It's 30s. What is a good three point percent? What is a good three-point percentage for a team 36 37 maybe 35 I'll say anything over 35 over 35 is solid like shooting 50 what 152 for anything 40 38 40 is crazy for a team 36 not that bad I didn't know 30 was good so we asked to chat what's the spurs ceiling we gave him four options the NBA finals Western Conference final second round or first round exit 36% said second round
Starting point is 00:27:57 31% said Western Conference finals 23% said NBA finals and 10% said first round exit But we will see how this season panes out Let's keep this thing moving Today's show is sponsored by Seatgeek
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Starting point is 00:28:43 He's about six two when you came out in the womb, my boy. You're saying to speak? Mm-mm. All right. All right. All right. Not today. Oh, we see his kryptonite.
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Starting point is 00:29:46 a little Western Conference action. So Dylan Brooks nearly led the Sun to their second straight win over the Lakers this season. After hitting a go-ahead late in the fourth quarter, but ended up costing his team the game after getting in LeBron's face after the shot, getting hit with his second tack and ejected from the game. Brooks left the son's locker room after the loss. Did not speak to the media, but Wednesday, Brooke spoke for the first time about the game and going at LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I guess he's a social media junkie all over the social, so he'd be seeing, I guess, what I'm saying, and when I go out there and he thinks, like I told you, he thinks that people should think away about him, You're not saying nothing about him or, you know, play a certain way. I'm not going to play that way. So it gets in his moods or in his modes or whatever it is, and I'm all for that. I wish we let him shoot that shot, and that shit would have been an airball. Wish we let him shoot that shot, that shit would have been an airball. That's my name of LeBron.
Starting point is 00:30:47 We got thoughts on Dillenbrook's continuing to poke the bear. That is LeBron James. We heard LeBron's vantage point after the game. Dillenbergs, like I said, did not speak to the media after the son's lost. I like it because he's playing well. And that's just who he is. And that's just what he's going to be about. But he's playing well offensively.
Starting point is 00:31:05 He's having a career high, I think, right, this year. Yeah, every career high and points in field goal percentage. So it's not messing with his, you know, his mentor, his game. And this is what he do. So, you know, he's in a situation where, you know, he's doing this thing, man. I'm happy for him. I'm happy for him. I'm a fan now.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I'm a fan of them. I like it. Me too. This is coming. Shug is branching outside of Cleveland. I like it. No, I like the band. He's a LeBron fan.
Starting point is 00:31:36 The biggest LeBron fan. Shad, you were not here on Tuesday when we talked about this whole situation based on what happened in that game this past weekend. But when you hear Dylan Brooks talking like that, you respect it? Last time we spoke on Dylan Brooks. and Dylan Brooks that I was here, you know, it's competition for me. Be competitive. Go after the opponent in all ways, shapes, like, any way you can. Try to affect the game.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And he seems to be one of the best of the addict right now. So you see how he had the men crashing out? Numerous crashouts throughout that game. Oh, man. Not typical for LeBron. Out of character. Very out of character. Very out of character.
Starting point is 00:32:20 And it was exciting to see it. very exciting you can only imagine how I would be out there if it was like that you know having the energy like that to be able to have a freedom his team having his back to do that and the coach coming out publicly saying no we we got his back you know we want him to be the guy that's agitating and irritating and to Gil's point saying that you know him being a number two being able to actually go out there and provide points and defense on both sides of the ball. Even though he was at Oregon, he was always a guy who could get buckets. In Memphis, he got buckets before Jai got there.
Starting point is 00:32:59 He played well in Oregon. You know what I'm saying? So he could hoop, but it's just like anybody else. When you have to regulate your spot for another superstar to come in and you got to step aside and let him shine a little bit more, take a lesser role, play some defense, you know, be another side of the ball as far as leadership is concerned. He went to Houston, seen the opening there. with Jalen Green and those guys, provided leadership.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Now he's in Phoenix doing the same thing. And I think it shows his maturity, his growth, and the timing. It's all about timing when you do the stuff that he's doing. You don't just go all out and do it every single night to every single player. It's specific because you send in a message to everybody, I'm taking out the king.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And once y'all talk about the king, nobody would dare talk to him like that. Nobody would dare do anything. Any of the things that I'm doing, nobody would dare do it. So for him to do it, it's showing everybody like, what y'all scared of? It seemed like he was scapegoated with the Grizzlies, obviously, because this bear poking has been going on for a while.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Now, scapegoed with the Grizzlies after they lost that series, went to Houston alone when he made a doka, helped change the culture over there. How long it's been going on for? A few years now. Like two years? Closer to, like three or four. Like a 37-year-old brown? Man.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Elder abuse? 48, 48, 48, 40-year-old. But my part with Brooks, though, is just, I scapegoat with the Grizzies, went over to Houston along with EMA, Adoka, helped change the mentality. The culture over there, made their first playoff since 2020. Yeah. Now I'll come over with the Suns. I think he's trying to... Team form better than expected.
Starting point is 00:34:34 He's trying to Josh Hart, LeBron, I think. Trying to, want to... The way he speak about LeBron all the time. You would call that a Josh Harding type of? Yeah, that's the new thing. He's trying to Josh Harding, but... Yeah, man. It's like his whole world revolves around.
Starting point is 00:34:50 around this man. I was about to stay. Yeah, bro. Like, I never see it. Like, but that's how some people get famous. You know what to do. He's not the only one, you know, at least when, like, Ant Man does he, he does it to everybody. And he wins.
Starting point is 00:35:07 He made it to the Western Conference finals. And he doesn't do it every time he see LeBron. Like, this guy gets up for LeBron every time he sees him, he speaks about him. Like, I don't never, how many texts he got this year? How many Texas he got this year? A lot. He got a lot of time. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Like, I don't... The past few years, though. No. I'm talking about... Like, against LeBron, how many texts he has, or how many Texx he has in general this season? Because he got two the other day, right? Let me see.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Got kicked out. My God, damn. Like, do we talk about him and... talk about him in any other way. Like every time I talk about him, the brown name is tagged to him. I'm so tired of this shit. When they play each other, obviously, he
Starting point is 00:35:58 relishes the competition. He's hooping now, yeah. But he's always done this. He's seeing it. You're tired of it, Nick? No, he's saying something that is. He's so tired of it, huh? I've seen it before. Want to call your honey, tell him. I'm so tired of him,
Starting point is 00:36:11 Honey, I'm so tired of him. I'm always going at you. Like, you get famous for messing with you. Leigh him alone then yeah do it to everybody leave me alone I mean they get famous but then they be loose no no what he what he's okay what he's saying is this oh outside of LeBron James and when he plays LeBron James who is he man nothing no one knows him and for someone who's averaging 21 right right that's played what he playing but he's a troll across the league No one talks about, and this is the bad part about the personality.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Now we talk about them. When you're playing LeBron James, yeah, we see all of you. Yeah. Okay, okay. We don't know if you do this against K.D., because nobody reports you. We don't know if you do this against anybody else because no one gives you that microphone after these games. So we only think about you with LeBron James. You're playing too well to only be known.
Starting point is 00:37:17 man against two games this year you're like he's averaging 21 right so he didn't and the only time we hear him talk is lebron james that's that's that that's that's too he's too good for that this is not some this is not some defensive guy whose name is only attached like he don't get no recognition outside he made his name in Memphis against who being on that that no that whole team Memphis when he was coming down doing all right and and no but the The stuff that he was doing on the court outside of LeBron James. That whole team was rowdy. Everybody knew about Memphis because of what Dylan Brooks was doing
Starting point is 00:37:54 and what John Alden was doing. He made his name in Memphis, man. No, man, we cannot do that. And then he bawled out last year. You didn't see him last year. We did. He got into it with other people besides LeBron James. But what I'm saying is he's, his presence is always felt every year.
Starting point is 00:38:10 For Duda, average is 21. Damn. His presence is still every year. No, what I'm saying is for Duda's average. 21, and he plays defense. He's a two-way player. Does he get recognition? Yes, we've been, before this LeBron stuff, they've been saying he's been having a career year. I mean, I've been seeing on the instrument. I've been seeing it on Instagram. I've been saying on Twitter, everything. We don't have to explain. We see the same shit. We all see
Starting point is 00:38:35 the same shit. They're just trying to push the LeBron. But based on where the Sun's were last saying, no, no, no. No, when he does get mentioned with LeBron, yes, it is big news. But what I'm saying is, but what I'm saying is he does do the same. this to other players. Like, he does be in the news for other things. I'm not, I'm not just going to do that to Dylan Brooks. Like, I mean, Drake put him in a fucking song. Like, people hate this guy. For sure. Huh? What was it because of difference? What I'm saying is, what's his biggest game this year? What's his biggest game this year? No, what I'm saying is we don't know. That's his biggest game. He can have a career high. We don't know because they don't.
Starting point is 00:39:09 I mean, nobody's watching Phoenix. So, I mean, we got to Jonathan Mitchell's best game. We don't know. Just a lot of guys. We don't know. We don't know. But he's hooping, though. Yeah, so we don't know. We can't use that against Dillon Brooks because there's a lot of other guys we don't know either. He's hooping and he's going that nigger's favorite player. That's it.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I don't know. What do you think I'm saying? I'm not saying anything about what you're saying. I'm making a statement. It's ain't got nothing to do with you. But what I'm saying is, I'm saying that, like, I don't care about you going at whoever you go at. I'm saying as media, like you're about to play Golden State Warriors.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Okay. They want to still talk about LeBron James. The nica is beyond. He's better than just a LeBron. He's better than just LeBron James. That ain't got nothing to do with Dillon Brooks. What questions they're asking him? But didn't Billing Brooks have beef with Golden State?
Starting point is 00:40:01 So wouldn't they mention that? Exactly. Wouldn't they mention that? Why are you talking about LeBron James Hill? He's bigger. I think. Oh, that game was after he played against Gold State. They asked him a question.
Starting point is 00:40:14 No, he's ready to play against him. What I'm saying is, he is bigger now than just using him for LeBron Jay. He doesn't do that. Hey, are you about to shut down Jimmy Butler? And, like, he's bigger than just using him for this. They didn't ask him that question. They didn't ask him that question. Against the Warriors every game.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Yes, but in the playoffs, though, he was targeting Steph's thumb very open. I'm just saying, like, there's other things. He goes out of other guys around the league, but obviously, LeBron's such a big name. No. No, self is a big game. And I ain't never seen Brian try to go at somebody like that either. What I'm saying, if I'm a reporter, I'm going to have more questions about his improvement as a basketball player. This year.
Starting point is 00:40:54 This is your four games, your four days removed from LeBron. I don't give a fuck about that. Hey, yo, you've been balling this year. You've been playing very well. Like, what did you do? Like, I want to give you the credit. I'm not going to ask you about four days ago because as a writer, I want LeBron James take. No.
Starting point is 00:41:12 So why did they ask him? Why did they ask him? They asked him the questions four days later. But that was his first time speaking since the game. That's what I'm saying. That was his first time. As a media thing, you're only attaching him to that when his game is better than that now.
Starting point is 00:41:26 You don't need that. He's playing against Steph. Hey, you've been playing very well. What you did against the playoffs against Steph, boom, boom, are you ready for this matchup? Like, give him more shine than this. But he's playing in Phoenix. You be playing in New York and be playing in LA.
Starting point is 00:41:40 You're so short-minded. How many times does he play LeBron? I know, but what I'm saying is, he wasn't available for media. So they hadn't talked to them. They hadn't talked to them. Yes. They had to ask him the question. He left.
Starting point is 00:41:50 He was, he left. I know. So now he's available. Now he's available. Talk after. Four games, right? He plays LeBron four games. Four games ago.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Yeah. No, just four games in a season. Okay. Is it fair to just only mention him against him? Yes. Because LeBron James is. So you shouldn't mention him four games against K.D. It's LeBron Day.
Starting point is 00:42:10 It's LeBron Day. It should mention him four games against Golden State. It's LeBron Day. You shouldn't mention four games against him. Four games against him. ant man you shouldn't football games
Starting point is 00:42:18 if you're a media guy what's going to get you clicks LeBron James if I mention LeBron and my questions I'm going to get more shit right why would I mention
Starting point is 00:42:28 KD why would I mention any of these dudes I'm going to get more clicks on the guy I know you hate you don't want to play against you're going to play hard against if I ask him this we're going to get some clicks
Starting point is 00:42:38 and that's what I'm saying he's only being click baited for this and his game is bigger than just this now. He has no control over that. He should be getting more praise for all the stops he's going to get. All the, he's averaging 20. That means he's done, did the offensive things on a lot of players.
Starting point is 00:43:01 So he should be getting exposed for that. Stop just leaving his men to LeBron James. He's bigger than LeBron James. It's, I think it's hurting his brain at this point. No. But we give him praise on this country when he's done. I think somebody has asked him about his year coming up because he's been averaging 20,
Starting point is 00:43:18 so I think they have been asking him, yo, what have you been doing this year? Because I'm surprised. No, no, seriously, I'm surprised about what you're trying to say that, man. But what I'm saying is I saw it on social media. They've been talking to Dylan Brooks. It's been on social media. So this situation where Bronn, they haven't talked to him in four years.
Starting point is 00:43:32 You know, I'm asking, hey, man, what the hell happened with that? Four games. No, they played the Lakers with their last game. Okay, and then their next game is the Go to State Warriors. Okay, so then, and then I'm straight. He's going to do something with Drey Mott. There's going to be news again. Right, because he's already had beef with him through Memphis.
Starting point is 00:43:51 He's been hating going to say since Memphis. But I'm saying he doesn't do this. All of this, right, that was a moment in time. We see you, right? Okay. You now you have game. You have real basketball game. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Right. You don't need the gimmick anymore. The gimmick is for people who can't ball. You can ball now. Right, that's what he's doing. Right. So, like, me, I'm saying, bro, you're bigger than, you're bigger than just a LeBron James take for the clicks interview. I bet he won't bummed, right?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Right. Like, I'm like, yo, I'm about to, I'm about to. I would have been like, yo, hey, listen, you see what I did against boy, boy. What I'm about to do the light skin dude on Thursday? Watch out. Like, that's, like, move your brand to stop everybody because you're a way player. Yeah, let me hear something. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:37 What's Dylan Brooks brand right now? Being an asshole in the court? No, no, no. Dillon the villain. Okay. Yes. Okay. Dillon the villain.
Starting point is 00:44:47 So that means everywhere I go? Everywhere I go. Thank you. The villain. Right. Who does the villain start with? The top person. The top motherfucking boss.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And it trickles down everywhere I go from here. Y'all know I, Dylan the villain coming in town. When will he start? Look what he just did to the boss man. They're going to ask some questions about, hey, how does it feel about doing that to the boss man? Y'all lost the game and did the, dude. My brand now is identified with being the villain in every single storyline. Who we play next?
Starting point is 00:45:19 Who's the boss? Who's the boss? All right. We're going against the boss, and the boss know I'm coming into town. He's preparing for me. Draymond Green, you got to prepare to protect your boss because I'm coming in. Now we know this. This brand is being a villain.
Starting point is 00:45:39 That's what we're saying. I'm playing against the, I shut him down, I'm playing against him, I'm coming to town. Oh, everybody. When I go play, Amen, here I come, Dillon the Villain. My Dillon the Villain is only, they're only known me now because people want to keep clickbaiting. I'm not a clickbait no more. I'm dealing the villain. I already shut him down.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I'm going over there to, we're in Golden State right now. What do you think I'm going to do to him? Shut him down. Then we're going to go down over here. I'm going to shut him. That's Dillon the villain. Yeah, but they're going to cover that if that happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:12 What do you mean? Every single play he goes. All right. A 245 playoff. They're just being on the other side of him for no reason. It's like Dylan has literally been promoted around the league. Brooks going at Steph's thumb. Brooks going at Stephs under thumb.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Brooks not shaking hands after the game. When does he stop talking about, how about this season? Tell me five great games. You act like I'm a Phoenix 10 me five great games God, me, man Tell me five other people Tell me three great games
Starting point is 00:46:46 Let me five other people Just look up this higher score No, I don't know I already did But I'm like Tell me somebody Buck in the chest No, what I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:46:55 Tell me three games We're gonna give you the two Laker games What is the next great game That Dylan Brooks has been exposed You gotta look at it now So you're gonna just look at the highest score But you didn't hear about it Go, tell us what he did.
Starting point is 00:47:10 He scored 40 wins. Gil, tell me what you hear about the Phoenix Sun. What he scored 40 wins? I don't hear anything about this. When he played against Houston and A.M.N. Thompson was sitting there telling Dylan Brooks, I know your antics, bro. You're my bro. We know Dylan's going to come in here and do this stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:24 He's going to try to promote, try to provoke KD, go that. He used to play here, so we know you, bro. Never seen him. So they was trying to adapt to knowing that he's going to come in here with the bullshit. That was Houston. Houston said that before the game? after the game after the game
Starting point is 00:47:43 I think it's just more surprising that he's having like this year so it's not like his points is not going to get talked about a lot because he's known as a defender but we've talked about it on the show we've given him love I know I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:47:54 we've given him love because he played who the same reason we give a lot of people love sir who did he play Lorne James and we're like oh damn that my fucking scoring is that the only reason we talked about him the same people like I said I gave me two games give me the third game that you we know he played well
Starting point is 00:48:10 but he's averaging 21 that's my thing I'm saying he should get more credit are you not listening to what I'm saying he's having an air and a follow get more credit for your two we're doing on the court for sure that's why I publicly said
Starting point is 00:48:24 hey I look this man has been working in the summer because I can see the improvement he should be getting credited for his improvement and we are doing that here on Gills Reena presented by underdog whoop whoa thank you sure
Starting point is 00:48:37 Always being on time. Appreciate you. Well, let's shift over to the Lakers side of things. It's one of the biggest issues for the Lakers. What was his career? How did it shift, so on. 304, I believe, against the Hawks. Draymond, go against everybody.
Starting point is 00:48:50 33 against the Lakers. And Draymond, go against everybody. He don't got one specific person he's just tired to. That's great, Nick. That's great, that's great, Nick. I'm just saying. It's a great take, Nick. You're trying to, you just hate,
Starting point is 00:49:07 Great thing, man. One of the biggest issues with the Baker's season been their struggles on the defensive end. Team is currently 20th and defensive ranting, 23rd, and opponents' fast break points allowed 24th. And field goal percentage allowed in 28th in opponent's three-point percentage. So on Wednesday, Luca talked about a recent meeting him and LeBron had with JJ Reddick, in which the Lakers head coach asks his two stars for more on the defensive end. We talk about a lot, not just that, but it was right, you know, but you got to get a little bit more. especially from our star players.
Starting point is 00:49:39 So that's on us. That's on me, and we just got to give more special to start the game. We've got to start the game better. But I think in Utah, I'm not even doing, Phoenix. We were a pretty good job. You know, the plan was focused on herself and defensive mentality. So I think we did a pretty good job there. So you respect Luca for taking some accountability
Starting point is 00:49:59 for the Laco struggles on the defensive end? Yeah, because it starts with him. You said he talked to who? J.J. Reddick had a meeting with LeBron and Luca. demanded more from the two stars on the defensive end. Luca was asked about it on Wednesday. We suck. It's over.
Starting point is 00:50:17 What's over, Gil? The Lakers? Why is it over? Like Sugar Ray said, when it's over, that's the time I fall in love again, sir. Why is it over? Because it does, I mean, it does. I mean, defense does start with your point.
Starting point is 00:50:30 It's over at all. So it starts with the man at top. All right, Laker Championship, 2027. Yeah, you're postpone the 2026 Lakers Championship. Damn. The parade group already figured out. This man had a meeting
Starting point is 00:50:44 with a 41-year-old to say, step it on the defense. Not the guys who actually need to play not Luca A-R-N-M. You're saying, step it up my 41-year-old. My 41-year-old need to step it up on defense.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And my 26-year-old. That's like Dallas talking about dirt. We need you to play. What? He ain't old. He's so old. He can't. Yo, Austin, defense.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I mean, you out there. I mean, you out there. Jake, Jake, off of all. Play some better defense because you can't guard nobody. Luca, play some better defense. The fact that he's, LeBron is even in this conversation before the other ones, A.N. Protect the rim.
Starting point is 00:51:33 Play some defense. But I'm sure it was a team. He said two people. So the fact that the 41-year-old has to step it up on defense. He's out there. We lost. We're done. How much money is LeBron made?
Starting point is 00:51:49 Cut it up. How much? Hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. How much is he making again? 52 million dollars. 52 million dollars. The NBA selection last season.
Starting point is 00:52:03 But we consider him a nigger that made 50. $52 million. Get back. But because he's 41, he don't have to play no defense. But you can get PAYGO check.
Starting point is 00:52:16 No. $52 million? No, no. We can't even tell you to give us some effort? No, no, no. That's insane. But I thought it was
Starting point is 00:52:26 a chain reaction on defense. It's four. It's five players. If all five of us not playing defense, we're going to break down. We're going to lose at some point. I think JJ's getting
Starting point is 00:52:35 kind of fucking fed up. with the breakdown at some point is three guys that don't play no defense at least one of y'all step it up so we're gonna have a conversation about one of y'all stepping it up who's the three guys you said three guys who's the three a r oh luca okay burn it right again yeah i'm just asking i'm just i'm asking i mean that is your big three i'm the rhetorical question if he knows what that means it's a rhetorical question he knew the answer to that yeah i just wanted you to say it since you use three. So if I'm going to have a meeting about defense,
Starting point is 00:53:10 it starts with the people who actually supposed to be young enough to put somebody and stop somebody, which is my guards first. My guards first can't keep guards in front of them. It starts with them. My big man can't protect the basket. So the fact that you're relying on LeBron James to step his defense up when we have at least
Starting point is 00:53:34 three real liabilities first it shows we have a real problem with accountability. I'm glad Lucas is taking accountability for his problem, but I've never seen so far this season where a offense is literally targeting LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:53:51 We played the Spurs. We played the Spurs. Them boys barbecue they are. Pick and roll, pull them out, let's rock. Pull them in, pull them out, let's rock. They kept going back and forth to him. So the fact that you are being targeted and you're not even in the meeting of defense lets me know where we are mentally
Starting point is 00:54:12 it needs to start with the people who can actually do something my two guards y'all supposed to stop guards from coming in here hey um we have a big fella keep people out of this lane when golden state has a meeting about defense do you think step fucking's in it no Do you think Steph Curry? Oh, I mean to have a meet with Steph Curry and Draymond. What? That meeting is going to start with who? Clay.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Top player, man. Who is that the top? Leadership starts at the top. It's going to be, who was in there? Clay and Madala and Draymond Green. I hope Stephner. No, no, no. Because the protection, we already know who is.
Starting point is 00:54:55 We're going to come to you last. Yeah. Okay. Because, hey, we need you to stay in front of your guy. But the meeting is about our defense as a team, and you're going to step to have the conversation. about defense of the team. No, that goes to the strengths of the team defensively.
Starting point is 00:55:10 The strengths of the team. Who is being targeted first? Luca. Who is being targeted second? A.R. So shouldn't they be the first one's in there so that we can... That's what I'm saying. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:20 So the fact that LeBron is in there at 41, I'm like, I'm good. Right, right, right. We're not tip going around LeBron, it's not going around LeBron. He is getting paid $52 million. He is the top guy on the team. He's supposed to be the greatest of all time. He's also four years old.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I don't give a fuck how old he is. You're on the fucking court. You're supposed to be playing fucking defense. I don't think the four men is blowing by LeBron. I don't think the four men is blowing by LeBron Jack. We're talking about the future of basketball here. We're talking about what kind of blowing by LeBron. Have we seen?
Starting point is 00:55:54 Jay J. Riddick can't have a conversation with LeBron first. Why not? You're LeBron James. Bronn, if we, as a coach, you go from the top. And you say, I got to go after my best player, my top player, so it trickle the Brown's team, though, sir, in your opinion. Listen, it's always going to be LeBron's team.
Starting point is 00:56:13 It's always going to be LeBron's team. It's always going to be LeBron's team. Yes. If it's Greg Popovich. Greg Popovich goes out to Tim Duncan. He's holding Tim Duncan accountable so he can hold everybody else accountable. The same way. You've got to meet with LeBron first and say, look,
Starting point is 00:56:28 Brian, I need you to be the example of stepping it up on the defense of man, so everybody else can. period that's how it goes that's one-on-one that's I got to go get my best player and get him to buy-in to what we want then it goes to Luca hey Luca bro we can't have this
Starting point is 00:56:46 look at all these breakdowns now listen you ain't even got your money yet bro you need to do this type of shit too Brian tell him Ron tell him yeah guys let's do it man it's my fault I should have been doing it again you ever see nobody
Starting point is 00:56:59 talking about it he's 40 Ron ain't got that he ain't got talking Hey, did they talk about Mike like this when he was playing with the Wizards? It wasn't playing defense? No. No, Brydon. It was a much different time. No, no, I'm just asking.
Starting point is 00:57:10 He was a much different time. No, no, no. No, not even Kobe. This last year. I just, I just, it just looked back. What I'm saying is it looked bad by the two people. If he said V's four, then yeah, but I'm like, wait, hold on. We are ranking in defense, LeBron would be on the starting line.
Starting point is 00:57:31 He would be ranked. Four. He would be ranked four as the fourth worst. He's going to be Luca, AR, A, N, LeBron, then Rui is probably, he contains his guy. He doesn't get beat off the dribble. Just like LeBron don't get beat off the dribble. The three people that really need to step your defense up is the people that I just named first. So the fact that LeBron is in and not AR, that's the problem.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Do they have percentages? Huh? Who's the worst, like, the defender in the start-time? Maybe because he can talk to the LeBrono, but it's just, can we start that? They have it. Would convo's work the best and all that stuff? Like, you rank, like, the worst, like, the worst person in, like, the starting five, right? Like, you know, like, how you can tell who's the best player, right?
Starting point is 00:58:20 The higher score. Like, we need a ranking on, like, who's the worst defender in the starting five. So we know. You can see that. I'm just saying, like, for, like. You know who's the worst. But it needs to be known, though, like, because we can say. It is known.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Defensive PR? Is that? No. I know, but do they have that? I mean, I've never seen that like, I mean, I've never seen like some, you know, like before the game, like, yo, this is the worst defender on the, in the starting five. And it just shows you. They'll tell you what they points are, who the best player is, right?
Starting point is 00:58:46 I think that if we're watching hoop and we're talking the hoop, we can tell. Then if you were talking hooped and you wouldn't be. You wouldn't be. You would watch the Lakers play? You see, like, Is that off? But is that soft as the club? I understand it.
Starting point is 00:58:58 But it needs to be, like, you know what I'm saying? be like a person, like, so what we know. Jay, listen to what I said with holding them dickes accountable publicly. But did he ended up going privately like he said. JJ, hold them accountable, bro. What are you doing? All right, now let's have a meeting.
Starting point is 00:59:15 All of a sudden, they had a meeting after I said that. Jay J.J. has a fucking meeting with them like, look, can we play some defense? Can we play some defense a little bit? Luca comes out. We had a meeting. We're going to have to play some defense because it looked so bad. It ain't just me seeing it. media pointed it out, pulled up the tape.
Starting point is 00:59:33 It's like, look at these defensive blowbys. Look at how they target their AR. Lucas is not giving no effort. Nobody's sprinting back on defense. These are just basketball enthusiasts. You're watching it. We're like, yo, they are so bad defensively. They could be such a better team if they had accountability collectively.
Starting point is 00:59:52 It starts with the top. It starts with LeBron. No. No, it starts with Lucas. No, it doesn't. It's wrong with yours. They don't start with Don't start with. You know, the remove $52 million dollars.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Out your blood. 50 million dollars. Say you want to talk for him. What about? What? Luca is a cat. He's voted on a cat. He was in the media.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I don't want to talk who. It starts with him, right? No, it don't start with him. It starts with the greatest of all times. Are you greatest of all time now? Do you want to talk hoops or do you want to talk? Are you greatest all the top? Don't Depeas always start with the point, the point, right?
Starting point is 01:00:25 The point, right? I'm starting it off. If I'm just letting this guy come down every day and just do it every one. The point of attack defender? Who's the leader? Luca. Luca, right? This is Lucas team.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Bro, I didn't ask who's team it was. I said, who's the leader, but I need my point. Who's the leader? Are we talking there? Nobody knows. Now we just got amnesia. Y'all are something else. I don't know who.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Y'all has something else. I don't know who the one is. When has LeBron not been the leader on any team he's never been on? LeBron is giving the keys. What is talking about? Why y'all acting like this? Did he get the keys up? Did he get the keys up?
Starting point is 01:00:57 Did he did he not say that? This is different? Did he did he get the keys up? He said he gave the keys up. Luke is driving the car. He's a leader. I thought we was talking hoops. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 01:01:08 Y'all can't gaslight me, man. People are watching, man. We watched the game. You can protect LeBron all you want. It's obvious. But why does it start with him and he's not the guy? He's the greatest of all time. He's not the guy.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Yes, he's getting paid $52 million. Luca is the guy. It starts with him. Look up. It doesn't start with the guy. Bro, why you're arguing with it? I'm delusional. Don't argue with me.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Yes. All right, my bad. Jesus Christ. And you're sitting in my seat over here feeling delusional. I'm just trying to ask. Where's your prop, nigger? Put your prop out. Like, I can say, I can say...
Starting point is 01:01:47 If he's anything by LeBron, I can just say... If the fact that you're relying on a 41-year-old lets me know where you're team, right? I feel you. For real, for me. Like, if Dallas, when, if Dallas, when... When Dirk last year And they were relying on Dirk to play defense Something's wrong with your fucking
Starting point is 01:02:04 Something's wrong with you She can barely get up in depth Right, it's something wrong with you The fact that you're trying to hold a 41 to a standard A standard Because of his name is LeBron James A standard
Starting point is 01:02:16 You think Michael Jordan Was being held to a standard Of stopping people Or was that for everybody else On the team? You do what you do The rest of these guys will help you out and be your net guy.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Right now, our weakest link is Luca defensively, meaning what Dallas did when they pretended he was playing better defense against the clippers. Hey, build a wall around him because we know his attributes defensively is not very well. So we're going to preload up. We're going to make everybody skip the ball back and forth.
Starting point is 01:02:56 No straight line drives and all of that. It's a team defense when you have a big liability like that. That's like the reason you couldn't take advantage of Steph who couldn't play defense. He was too small because the meetings with everybody else is this is what we're going to do. Seth, make sure he dribbles one or two times. Other than that, everybody else got him. Don't bail him out. So you couldn't take advantage of Steph because the rest of the team understood the assignment, period.
Starting point is 01:03:24 That makes sense, right? Because if you're trying to protect Luca and then you got AR and LeBron not playing defense, it means you have to have the conversation with the other two guys, right? Because we need to protect the one guy, right? It makes sense, right? Is the guy Luca? Is the guy Luca? Did we ask the chat, who is the guy?
Starting point is 01:03:43 The other two. Gave him Brown on Luca, 69% said Lucas. So if Luca's the guy we need to protect, we can't have the other two guys not playing defense. The other two? The other two. Can you read the names again who the meeting was with? Who was the meeting was? No, no, that's what I'm going to read the quote.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I just want to read the quote. Hey, Joe, this is insane. What he's doing to you is insane, bro. He went. Please. Hold on. Full circle. Full circle.
Starting point is 01:04:13 Two what? Two liquor stars. You bored? You bored? Is the glasses? Oh no. What is it? Two Laker stars, right?
Starting point is 01:04:22 You're sour this morning. Would be Luca? And LeBron, Ramon, James, Sr. So he met with Luca and only LeBron, them two. Yeah. So it wasn't. I'm sure other people were met with, but he sought those two out to tell them they needed to improve their defensive effort. Not three.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Not A.R. Okay. Those are the two that were referred to. I heard A.R. name like 10 times. I heard three, I kept seeing three, but I only heard two. LeBron James. They're going to get the twitch in. LeBron James. Boy, that LeBron James hit that bird.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Boy, they started getting to twerking. Hey, Joe. You see this shit? I'm really hurt of the house. That's too clear, bro. What the fuck? She's jumping out the window. This is jumping out of the window, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Protect the man at all costs. Protect him at all costs, huh? What let the brawl and James do to you? That's how you turn the tables, huh? Man, that's crazy. That was smart. Hey, Nick. That 38th, that 30-8 a game killing him over there.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Yeah, y'all good. Let's move on. LeBron James again. No, no, I don't really want to see what happened. Let's move on. Y'all can't protect them for too long, man. Let's be obvious. Let's stay in LA.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Don't you dare do it. We will move on for the Lakers. We will talk about the Clippers and situations going on over there. So it's been two weeks since the Clippers gave Chris Paul an unceremonious exit 16 games into his retirement tour. According to a report from Jake Fisher, the Clippers do want to do right by their franchise legend, help him relocate via trade to finish out his 22. 21st and final season in the league. The Lakers can't just cut CP3, though,
Starting point is 01:05:57 because they don't have enough cap space to add a free agent to the roster. In an interview with People magazine, Paul had this to say about how a situation end with the Clippers. Said, I'm actually at peace with everything. More than anything, I'm excited about being around and getting a chance to play a small role
Starting point is 01:06:12 in whatever anything looks like next. So when you guys hear, there were your thoughts on the Clippers saying they want to do right by Chris Paul, considering everything that's happened leading up to this saying that they want to do right by Chris Paul. They got to do something, right?
Starting point is 01:06:25 It's a black cloud over that team. So, I mean, he's on the contract. You can't get rid of them, so you might as well just try to do something right, right? Right, at the end of the day. I mean, Plipper's been having a bad name for, like, years now. So, you know, might as well. Just try to do something, something, right? What's their record, Ben, since Chris, not being?
Starting point is 01:06:47 I believe one in four since Chris Paul's left. They've lost one of their, one and nine in the last same games, one and four since the CP3 breakup if I'm not mistaken interesting to say the least thank you what are your thoughts on the clip are saying they want to do right by Chris Paul I don't know what that means that's what is it I hear the words you want to do right by him and By him was him finishing his season like a true Hall of Fame player.
Starting point is 01:07:32 So you stop that. You can't cut them. So that means you just told him to stay home in a sense. Just stay home, we don't want you around here. And. Told him to Zoom. until the 2020 Zoom call on
Starting point is 01:07:58 through the remote work remotely I should send in your hour like you're saying you're saying anything that makes sense to the world but in reality you're telling the man to stay home so he's not around the team and then you will find a trade for him they're going to stream the practices
Starting point is 01:08:18 who's going to who's going to trade for practice and they don't, you know, give them comments. Was it? Was it? Well, there are some I have some teams need a point guard
Starting point is 01:08:30 that could use his veteran leadership but like we talked about when this thing first went down. Younger teams probably a Clipper team full of veterans. Not trying to hear that shit. At least it. I don't.
Starting point is 01:08:42 I mean, they said he was trying. Because now he says I would take a small role because I'm pretty sure now he wants to finish his career and finish it. I bet. Does he deserve it?
Starting point is 01:08:51 Future Hall of Famer 21sts. But he started looking around at hell. Right, shit. He was throwing Halloween money. There's ain't nobody cutting it. At the end. We will get to that in the second. New Orleans?
Starting point is 01:09:00 I mean, the only thing that he had his life in will be hell up, though. Houston, okay, see. No, you can't finish your career in Houston. You didn't, that's not your city. They need a point guard. I'm talking about, the reason he came back here is to be with his family. He can see his kids every day, grew up, play high school basketball. And then shit hit the fan, and he said,
Starting point is 01:09:21 I said, look, I just want to finish my career out somewhere. Like, I mean, the Pelicans is the only team he can really go to where his career was built. Right? I mean, Spurs, Pelicans, Rockets, Thunder. Spurs, he played the four years. That's not his career. Whatever. He was at the NBA Cup, dapping up Wimby.
Starting point is 01:09:39 Okay, let's try it again. Soccery Blue. His career that he stayed, that he has a fan base, is Clippers, New Orleans. A little bit of OECD. Why do you want to go back to New Orleans? As I said, it's the only place that makes sense. Sons? I mean, he got to the final there.
Starting point is 01:09:56 You got to throw the Sons in there because that was. Where would your jersey be retired? Clippers or New Orleans? The Clippers failed. So it's like New Orleans where you started your career is the only one that makes sense to me. Him going in Houston and retired, it just makes sense. If he wins it in Phoenix. I mean, at this point, I was supposed to say Beggars can't be choosers.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Whoever has a spot on the roster wants to give it to. But he has to be traded, too. Listen, bro, they said he threw a Halloween party. Yeah, so let's get into that. So ESPN's Ramona Shelburne dropped an article Tuesday, shedding more insight into the factors that led to Paul's abrupt divorce from the team. So according to her report, CP3 was told he was expected to be an end-of-vent veteran leader and to not expect too much playing time.
Starting point is 01:10:42 So CB3 attempted to be a vocal leader during his time with the team like he's always been. But his leadership style clash with some players and coaches and members of the front office. So according to his former Clippers teammate, John Collins, actually current Clippers team, he's still on the team. According to John Collins, Paul was leading the team's second unit routinely kicking the starter's ass in training camp. And then we shift over to start a season after the clippers got smacked by the jazz in their season opener. Paul attempted to bring the team together to encourage a dialogue,
Starting point is 01:11:07 but it fell flat amongst the veteran players. CP3 also tried to organize a Halloween party for the team after their win over the Pelicans, October 31st, but only three players showed up. So Clippers are one in the last 10 games. One and four since parting ways was CP3. So what is the Chris Paul situation exposed about the Clippers as a team and organization? Nigger had a Halloween. Three people.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Three people? They said he spent the money. Like Bradley Bill, Zubach, I don't know. They said they tried to do what you did again. At the end to it don't. It was at the, it was at the arena. He spent a million dollars on? They said he tried to have a million dollar party for Halloween.
Starting point is 01:11:41 It's him, his wife. A million dollar party. No, I mean, I went to one before. This shit was popping. No. And his, uh, when he played the clip. It was popping. Clippers is known for having legendary Halloween parties for those that know.
Starting point is 01:11:55 No, no, he did all. No, he don't have legendary Halloween parties. Clippers were known as a team pulling up back in the Lobby City era. Their Halloween party used to be popping. Used to be very popping. C&Room amongst other locations. CB3 did it at the Intuit Dome, the very arena. Oh, he did it in the arena?
Starting point is 01:12:12 Oh, that's why nobody came. It was. Yeah, we always here. After the game. Literally, take your shower, throw your clothes on, and just come over here. You even got to leave the facility. And they left. And they left.
Starting point is 01:12:24 They were like, hey, we got a holiday. They walked past the party in him, this and go to their car. I'm cool. All that's trash. I shake people hands. They're like,
Starting point is 01:12:34 I go to a real party. I'll be right back. I'll be right back. Yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back. Hey, me to phone 4-5. Can you row. Bad you got to hate the motherfuck.
Starting point is 01:12:44 I call you motherfuckers when I really need to get home. The makeup excuses? Not bad. You got to hit some. walk past his... You're at his party. You're at his party. You're in the venue where the party's up. Because you know if you come in, you got to stay for a drink or something.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Hey, listen, they got costumes and make up everything there for you. He ain't got to leave. They just... So, those are the fastest shower cell. What? I can't with you. I'm going to go home get my costumes. I'll be back.
Starting point is 01:13:12 They got costumes right there. I'll be back. Yeah, all right. You on that 405. Hey, loki. I don't... Okay, I know we didn't know about it. Did y'all arenas have clubs in them?
Starting point is 01:13:28 The Lakers had High Lounge amongst other. Did Timberwolves have one? No. When I went to Orlando, like after games, they went to the club. Like they clubbed. I didn't know. I was like, damn, I was like, damn. The Lakers got the Wizards.
Starting point is 01:13:44 High Lounge at Staples Center, known for turning up after Lakers and Kings games. Man, that's great, yeah. So instead of them going to the club, they just went upstairs and... Hang out, let traffic die down, get yourself a little beverage and music. But I think only certain, right, Atlanta has that, for sure. Atlanta, Miami has that, the Lakers have it. I know Orlando has it, like you said. I played there.
Starting point is 01:14:04 I think it just depends. They're into them, got it now. That's hard, yeah. Just, I mean, because he said they had it. Yeah, about they had. But an all-sisterity shot, you got CP3, trying to be a leader, trying to rally this team together. I'm throwing Halloween party for you ungrateful niggas. y'all don't even want to come turn up with me got costumes for all y'all roblocks
Starting point is 01:14:24 Minecraft who knows just saying six seven six for kawai seven for james hard wizard's dead what is this uh chris paul situation exposed about the clippers of the team in the organization not gonna look into it too much um guys just don't fuck with cp Or that they were busy, you know, I had other shit to do. My fuck's got some other shit to do. Got other plans, my nigga. Oh, I didn't get the E5. They was busy. It's right.
Starting point is 01:15:05 They walked it past it. Got some other plans, my nigga. Appreciate it. But, I mean, if we look at it, you know, laugh at it like it's CP fault or there's some discrepancy upon him, then that's going to be a narrative that's going to be painted. See, they don't fuck with CP. Nobody showed up.
Starting point is 01:15:25 They don't want to go to this party. Zubak did go, though, in his defense. Zupak. People who didn't have shit to do. He's very active. He's very active in L.A. He's going to chill a little bit. In fact was there, like, I'm from here.
Starting point is 01:15:38 What? Halloween party. He was Lakers. He's going to care. He's pulling up. Show love to his team. He's going to be passing to him. Nah, brother.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Yeah. It's all good. I mean, Clippers gonna be the Clippers, man. It seems like it never fails for them to get out of the, get out of that, that abyss that they've been stuck in. So, I mean, my advice to CP is just keep trucking, man. Keep doing what you're doing. Don't change your beat.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Don't change anything you've been doing. Because that's just like, like I always said, like Cobb said, leadership is lonely. And everybody's not going to follow. everybody not going to be on the same tune frequency you own but some people are the people who are the people who you leave a lasting impression with
Starting point is 01:16:25 so John Collins Rock with him Wake Forest obviously A platoon fuck with him Zubox Even Kauai said he fucked with him He spoke with him It's certain guys to fuck with him
Starting point is 01:16:37 You know what I'm saying But when you have different crews and different You know what I'm saying like They separate If it's James Hardin over here And it's this person over here and this person, you're going to go with your crew.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Crews go with their crew. We separate. We don't fuck with that crew. They don't fuck with us. We'll see y'all niggas at practice. You see y'all niggas at brunch, whatever. But that rose over into the game, which is that it seems like it is.
Starting point is 01:17:04 So Chris was whooping their ass in practice, which is what seemed to be my conclusion of it all. I'm whooping y'all ass. I'm talking that shit. Hey, yeah, let's kick their ass. them niggas was mad and somebody was too mad to the point to get this nigga out of here
Starting point is 01:17:19 coming in here whooping my ass every day but don't you think if people if your peers and people don't like you and they're saying things about you don't you think you should change no yes you should no hey what's the part of the CPA agreement
Starting point is 01:17:33 right that that bullshit contracts all that shit took the middle man out all that shit I think you should the carma's coming back bro nice fucking Nick yeah that's fucking eyes Yeah, don't look at me, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Keep your thumbs to yourself, Jim. Are those prescription? Yes, motherfucker. They're on blind. Oh. You want to see how to? Can you say it? Because it's like at a certain angle, his eyes just look on big eyes.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Nice fucking fish. Big fucking eyes. You want to see? No. Let me see how you looking. See? If Chris Paul would have did that, the nigga would have threw his glasses. Wait, how do you see it in something?
Starting point is 01:18:13 What? I can't read that. You look good right now, boy. Whoa. Hey, you're a handsome man. I like you like this. Back to Chris Paul. Look, if everybody's not a leader,
Starting point is 01:18:26 if they don't want you to be the leader, everybody had that guy that always talk and think they're the leader, niggas. Like, man, shut the fuck up. Shit like that. All right? So if they're not responsive to it,
Starting point is 01:18:37 take another approach, try another angle. That's what being the leader's about. Shit. Stop talking about this motherfucker. He's, man. Hey, Nick. Oh, he played for him. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Hey, Nick. Oh, he talked to you like that? Yeah. Worse at us? Nick. You talked to you like that? That was a good take, Nick. That was good take.
Starting point is 01:18:57 I know. Well, we was worse than him? At least you did it in my face. At least you did it in my face. Oh, so he had your bench. Oh, he's okay. Oh, he's working. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:10 He's worse in Quran? He's on TV. So it's Right, we're on YouTube, we're on YouTube So personal is what you're trying to say What I know I know from personal Who know who's saying
Starting point is 01:19:23 Which one would you rather play with Karan Or do you rather play? Which one is Karan? No, just say I just say That's good No, that's bad They had to
Starting point is 01:19:39 Listen With Karan They had to They all agreed Listen, it's more of us to them. We all not passing him to ball. I remember. And hear me over there.
Starting point is 01:19:49 What did he say? Pass me to pass me the ball, bitch. Passed to me like on 21. It was that bad. Like, there was like he is the best player of the team, and you get two or three of them on the court together. They was refusing to pass him on. It was done.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Twine was going by herself. Hey, back time. He's alone. He's alone. What are he going to do? If he tried to get us, we're going to jump. No, it was a funny, no, it was the funniest, you see, Karan shot, 6th Street shots. Somebody he didn't like took a shot.
Starting point is 01:20:23 Oh, man. Oh, man. We didn't pass the ball around. For real. For real. Crazy, bro. Damn. For real.
Starting point is 01:20:31 It's like this single cold blood is. Wow. But then, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, listen to that shit, too. Yeah. Be like tough juice. Well, hopefully it works out for CP3.
Starting point is 01:20:45 He can end his 21st final season in the league on a high note, get some semblance of a retirement tour. Yeah. Bring him back at the end then. Send everybody home. Bring up the G-League. Just let them come for game 82. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:00 All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. So Kevin Durant never been one to bite his tongue, and no topic is off limits. Katie pulled up to his teammate friend of Amphlete's unguarded show recently to discuss a variety of topics, which included him. shedding some more light on his decision to leave the thunder back in the summer of 2016 to team up with Steph and the Warriors.
Starting point is 01:21:19 In OKC, we had a lot of specialists. We had dudes that played defense that really couldn't score on their own, really couldn't shoot the ball. We had a guy that probably can shoot but can't really guard that well. So there's a lot that go in, too, trying to make that offense work. And we did a solid job, and I'm looking at Golden State. They're calling me, and I'm like, shit. The average probably won 20 a game.
Starting point is 01:21:45 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, adding you to the equation for damn sure. I'm not worried about the zone. Every time I catch the ball or top blocking me, double team. For sure. I felt like we made the game better because you had to come with it from the first possession of the game when you get blown out. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Like, and we went on third quarter runs. That was insane. We had 50 points in the third quarter. So you got to understand Katie's reasoning for leaving the Thunder. the Thunder to join the Warriors when he explains it like that he was following LeBron James he do everything LeBron James do you stop what are you talking about I mean it is like they do everything LeBron do no I'm looking at that team and at their quarter was crazy no he was
Starting point is 01:22:41 I see what he's saying. It's built like a 2K team if they're playing comp, right? You only, you build it as a team for these people not to do certain things. So the shooting guard was what, Roberson, right? That was the shooting guard. Cervillosa. When they went to the, when they went to the. No, Cepalosia.
Starting point is 01:23:05 2015-16 Thunder? No, the 2015-16 Thunder? It was the 14-in-in-it-it-oh. You left Summer or 16? Yeah, it was 16. So it was Roberson who couldn't shoot the ball. Okay. And I'm pretty sure he's talking about Morrow who can shoot,
Starting point is 01:23:23 but didn't really do anything else. Morrow's a lethal shooter. Yeah, he's a lethal, yeah. Obviously, KD led that team in scoring, followed by Westbrook, Serger Baca. And then he went... Serge can shoot. It went 12, 10, and then...
Starting point is 01:23:38 Deion Waders. Deion Waders. Coming off the bench. Stephen Adams was on the team, Roberson. Reggie Jackson was on that team. Young Reggie, you got Randy Floyd, then Collison. Randy can shoot that bitch. Yeah, but they all had all.
Starting point is 01:23:50 But what year was that for Randy? All three of them play the same. Not, I know, it was gone. That was... Waiters and Reddy Jackson can't play together. Utah. But kind of after the Clippers, Randy was like... He could shoot it.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Yeah, he could still shoot. Yeah, for sure. What he was talking about, when he acting like that, that the team didn't have nothing that can offset all the other teams he's been on. based on after Golden State, top locking and double and all that. It's like, it's a part of who you are. Niggins, you're KD.
Starting point is 01:24:19 If you don't got Steph and Clay, nigga, who the fuck is going to be top locking and doubling you? Nigel, we're not. They're the best shooters ever. So, man, outside of that, like, whatever team you go to, that's what kind of treatment you're going to get. You're KD. We're top locking.
Starting point is 01:24:35 We're trying to get the ball out your hands. It don't matter even Russ. You look at Russ there, and you talk about that. with him and Russ. It's like, damn, so what was, is it for on? Two niggas guarding each nigga? For all that, they were still up, what, 3-1? No, but when you're talking about a helpside defense, right?
Starting point is 01:24:52 You got Russ who can't shoot the ball that good, right? Russ driving that bitch on the catch. But when you're talking about loading up, you can load off of Rush, right? You're loading them off Robeson. So you're going to top, lock him in, you're going to corral them. So he's probably frustrated. Got to get over that. Reggie there.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Reggie there. I know what he's saying. He's saying, like, he's saying first quarters. First quarters, we're going to make it tough on KD because we're going to sag off everybody and walk, wah, wah, walk. But we have a team that's going to adjust to that. You can't do this the whole game. Man.
Starting point is 01:25:23 We've got players. We've got players. Reggie Jackson wasn't there yet. I was like to do that shit right here. You can't top lock, dude. It's through that right here. In the post. Yeah, the top, like, when he's trying to come off a pin downs,
Starting point is 01:25:35 they're just going to top lock it, push him the other way. Wait, Reggie Jackson was. They didn't have enough, they didn't have enough. He wasn't. What really hurt them is when James, obviously James Harden leaves because with James Harden, it's more balanced, so they kind of went down. And it was just the opportunity.
Starting point is 01:25:52 They still was up three years. No, but it's still the opportunity. The opportunity of presented itself. He's a free agent and this team saying, hey, he rose and TV on the same thing with respect. No, but what I'm saying is. And a three one is crazy. Remember.
Starting point is 01:26:05 That shit is crazy. He lost? Okay, he's a free agent. he can go anywhere the number one team says hey we need your help whatever come over they're calling you making you feel appreciated and they fly to you man listen i can i can understand loyalty and then i can understand the opportunity the opportunity is i'm looking at three three dudes that's like shooters shooters specialists at whatever he does and i'm like you add me Oh my god
Starting point is 01:26:41 This is crazy Like the work And I can Like they puffed him No they flew to him I know they put to him Listen we're gonna give you two albums We're gonna get where you at
Starting point is 01:26:51 Shit I mean Listen we're gonna give these two albums Alright we're gonna make you a star Bad boy You're gonna get out of here It's bad boy Get him out of here We're gonna put you on this black
Starting point is 01:26:58 We're gonna put you on this black jet On some snowfall shit Them niggas came down through the set Did it drive by Bop bop bop bop bop Bop bop bop and then go to Bada there And he was like hey man
Starting point is 01:27:09 I'm not trying to get shot up like this no more. But if they had more guns, then they just ran out a bullet. They were doing better shooting. And I can say, I get shot. I'm breathing different, B. I can't walk the same, B. And pull your skirt down.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Russ, like, man, pull your skirt down, B. Niggas get shot every day, B. And the pay cuts he took? Them pay cuts he took? We can see there was for a good reason. You're going to Silicon Valley. Yeah, that's something that. I'm paid cuts you took.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Yeah. For sure. It all worked out. Them Silicon boys. You don't need that $10 million on the books. I got this Uber. It's called Uber Eats. It was still a good business move.
Starting point is 01:27:56 At the end of the day, it's still a good business for the long term and everything. My question is, does he need to say that when we already respect the fact that you did what you thought was best for you? Based on a man, man. a free-flowing conversation. No, I'm saying, but now it sounds like an excuse. It doesn't sound like I made a decision based on, I just wanted to go to another situation. Because he keeps hearing it.
Starting point is 01:28:18 I think because he keeps hearing on the internet. I'm just saying, but what he just said is like, I left because I was getting top-sided and da-da-da-da-da. That's a whole different dynamic from the respect you're getting from, man, he just wanted to go to another team, man. He ain't like a situation. He wanted to go. It sounds like he was shooting.
Starting point is 01:28:35 But it can be, no, what I'm saying is getting to be. I mean, it sounds like it was too. Something. It can't be an excuse. It's his version of why he left. We've never heard him say why you left. He said, I left because this is how the game is going for me. I'm looking at that.
Starting point is 01:28:50 It's going about a hundred and something to put me in there. I'm good. So after a decade, now we want to, like, what happened like when people was asking before? But usually people, when they get older, they eventually say, all right, this is why. Yeah, for sure. That's the better. That's just the better. Like you said, he up 3-1, and we got a bunch of specialists that's doing X, Y, Z.
Starting point is 01:29:07 XYZ we hear up 3-1 we can beat this team whatever reason we didn't beat this team ain't got shit to do with the specialist we up three one let's take this shit to the house but then we leave this situation to go to another team after this that's a different conversation you know but no no no didn't he say he left because of Westbrook uh-huh we're up yeah that was one that was one from him depends of it but at the end of the day, you're saying he should stay. Why should I commit more? I've already committed enough.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Right? I'm in OKC. Who are y'all bringing? I'm a free agent. If I sign this max contract, who are you bringing? I'm stuck with the same group. I don't think they're saying to stay. They're saying, don't go to that team.
Starting point is 01:29:53 But that's what the whole thing. I know what the world is saying, but this is my career, right? No, that's what Russell Westbrook said. I'm cool. But you don't have a tradition. Not them at all. But what I'm saying, they'll fight. But I'm saying, they just sprayed the block, bro.
Starting point is 01:30:08 You can't go to them. They just sprayed over that. But I have the two championships and the two finals MVP. I made a good decision. That puts me here. Yeah. Your career is going to be always challenged because you don't have it. Your loyalty to them for them to do the same thing they did.
Starting point is 01:30:24 They would have did until any of us. But you saying, man, fuck him. He said, I'm OKC. They traded you. But you know why they traded me? A year like you. Why they trade me? Because we could have won together.
Starting point is 01:30:34 but you left. But I'm not, like, you, obviously, you still know. That's where Russ's head is like, they didn't get rid of me because we didn't win. But what is it? But what is it the whole point of? But Russ got an MVP out of it. Look, Russ got an MVP, but think about this. Russ is saying, don't go leave us to go to them that beat us.
Starting point is 01:30:56 And then we're saying, well, I got these two. I'm good. You don't got nothing. And look what they did to you based on you not having nothing. that wouldn't have happened if you were to stay with us. We would have won one. We would have won one. No, they'd not get money out.
Starting point is 01:31:12 We would have won one. It was James Hardin. Losing 3-1 and then trying to come back again. No way. It was the James Hardin. It was a James Hardin move that messed up. You said 3-1, right? All right, what happened?
Starting point is 01:31:25 They lost. They ended up losing. Yeah, they lost. When LeBron James them. They didn't three-one. And then what happened? They came back and won. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:33 The next year, who won? The Warriors. Same thing would have happened, nigga. No, they load it up. They got Katie. Same thing. Now I'm saying, if Katie stays. We run it back and we win.
Starting point is 01:31:45 No, they don't. No, they don't. No, they came up. Go to stay in somebody. So look, what we got somebody? No, we consider that LeBron thing. Out there. Go to state is getting somebody that time.
Starting point is 01:31:55 They're not winning. They're not being in the same team. They're not winning. They're not being no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Y'all not realize you're saying. How much. Listen, are y'all forgetting they signed Kevin Durant to a deal, meaning they have money.
Starting point is 01:32:11 They have all the money. But they don't have a KD, though. They don't have a KD. No, he's available. You know, he's available. I said they would have got, okay, so. You're not going to get a KD, though. But you can get two.
Starting point is 01:32:25 That was a big difference. No. KD made a difference. It was KD was a bazook. It was overkill. didn't need overkill. Like when we played it here, 73 and 9, you don't need overkill.
Starting point is 01:32:38 Listen, when we played against Cavs, that wasn't even a series. Did that even look like that's what I'm saying? The Brian came back from 3-1 to win the series. And the next year, the Warriors won. Got KD.
Starting point is 01:32:53 KD. So, if you, KD, don't go to the motherfucking Warriors. We run it back and we beat the Warriors. But then you lose to LeBron in the final. No. Maybe. No, the problem is, okay, see,
Starting point is 01:33:09 okay, C has to run it back with the same team because they have no money once they sign KD. Golden State, they get to add more players because they have all the money. But you don't get to add KD. But I can add another superstar. We don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:33:26 Who you add. If we got your number. No, you do not. Yes, we did. We got your number. We're going to add two more superstars. Adding a K-D. We don't want a K-D.
Starting point is 01:33:36 We don't need a Pazooka. We need two other players. And you lost. And we lost, we won. In a game seven, yes, in a fucking game seven, came down to a game seven. We lost, I was there. We running it back again. It's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:33:51 And we added two players. No, no, no, no. We lost in a game seven. No. Who was available that year? A little. The bronze, uh, Kevin Durant. And he could have took a year deal.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Kevin Durant, LeBron, James. All right. Two-year deal. Mark, DeMoros. Okay, again. Kevin Durant, LeBron, James, Al Horford, DeMarreauvin, Michael Conley, Andre, Drummond, Dwayne, Hassan, Wyside, Batoon was free agents. None of them are Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 01:34:21 I just, I can sign three. None of them equals to Kevin Durant. I don't need Kevin Durant. You need 50, 40, 90 to beat LeBron James. I don't need Kevin Durant. 5049. I need that. No.
Starting point is 01:34:34 And you need to cancel LeBron out. I don't. You need to cancel LeBron? What I'm saying? Who hit the shots to beat? No.
Starting point is 01:34:41 Who hit the shots? No. He's talking about beating O KC. Two of these players, one of these players, I run through OKC again because they're running the back with the same exact team.
Starting point is 01:34:52 But you're not running. I'm 31. I'm 73 and 9. I'm 73 and 9, and I'm adding more players. But you're down 3-1, bro. That's all that. You need.
Starting point is 01:35:01 Regardless of what she needs, we need one game to get y'all out of here. If I get Al Horford, is my team better? You might run it. You might, look. No, hold on. If you add Al Horford, y'all might take a six game. If I get Al Horford, do I beat O'KC? No.
Starting point is 01:35:18 No, you lose it. Hey, you get to Markerosa, we take you to seven. What do you, Al Horper, we take you to seven. Back then? Yes. No. They just went seven. Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:30 Well, you can't play with Al Horford from me. What are you going to do out? We got, we got Sergei Bocker, we got, we got motherfuckers, we got, we got motherfuckers. Come on, man. So you're adding a pick and pop big with Steph Curry doing a 7-3 and 9 that can that can also pick and pop, take the ball off the dribble. He's a better drive-on. I get that. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:35:52 We still have another all-star and then we can add another all-star. They had one. They had an offer. You were down three-one. They had a offer. Three-one. Right. You went down twice.
Starting point is 01:36:00 You went down twice in the whole playoffs, 3-1. Three-one. Twice in a 73- or nine season, you went down three-one twice. And you guys read the same team back and we- twice? You went down three-one twice in the seven? Come on. We're not talking about beating Cavs.
Starting point is 01:36:16 We're talking about beating the OKCP. He went back. There was a reason he didn't go back. He didn't believe this team was championship. So we left. They took their heart. It was a rap. We left 3-1.
Starting point is 01:36:26 It's over. You think you're coming back again. It's deeper. It's deeper than that. They thought they took us. The Warriors heart. Remember. You can't take one person's heart in the three one series and not.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Who took the Warriors heart? The Coke, okay. LeBron James. And why do you think they win they got a bazooka? Thanks. I'm not even going to win. That was available. He stays.
Starting point is 01:36:47 You don't get to go. You don't get the bazook. You got to settle for DeMont Rosa. The Martin Rosen takes you over the top against him. Oh, John James. We go. No, against the Bronner. I'm talking about Lebron James.
Starting point is 01:36:59 Come on, man. I'm saying if I got DeMar Rosen, O KC, you're going back to OKC, you're behind us again still. So you're talking about the second year. You're talking about when we run it back and we run it back instead of getting KD and you get Demar DeRose. DeMar de Rosen was not running nothing back. You're losing. DeMarsan was averaging 20s. Don't matter what you're not AD.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Do you know how easy the game would have been for the Marr DeRosen? Like, wait, hold on. Can I ask you? Like, I want you all to really think about a team. A team won 73 and 9, they go into free agency, and you're saying, if they added Demar de Rosen or Al Horford to their team, meaning they could keep the same players they have, and just add these players because they have all the money, because Steph Curry wasn't a max contract, so they can sign a max contract.
Starting point is 01:37:55 They can sign a max. How do you think they got, KD, without doing anything? They can sign someone. So if they sign them to Marr and the Al Horford because they can sign both, you're saying that 79 a team adding Demar and Horford don't beat O'KSA. No. No, they had a fucking opportunity to do it. But they said, no, we need KD.
Starting point is 01:38:18 They did. We need KD. They said, okay, our hands are winning. We don't want him. We hope he said KD. They're going to. all the way to go see you. I want to go fly it away.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Hey, they said, Al Harper, DeMorna Rosen, they said, what we need to win is KD. There's no other KD out there, fly the fucking New York. Like, D, how you doing? They could have said, all y'all mean here, we're going to be with all y'all. So they met with one person,
Starting point is 01:38:49 because that's how they knew they was going to win. So again, one. You're not listening. No, you're not listening. You said, Al Goreford, Moore. Who made it? And tomorrow. Stop, stop, please.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Who went to the championship? Come on, Nick. Don't do style. No, stop. Who wins to the championship? Did Go to State beat OKC to go to the championship? Yes. So if they did beat them already,
Starting point is 01:39:16 and I add DeMar de Rosen and Al Horford, how am I losing to OKC still? We're going to finish y'all off. We're going to finish y'all off. Who are you saying they're going to lose to? I'm talking about when I'm talking about Golden State versus O KC the next year again. But they added Damar and Al Horford. He's saying that OKC is going to beat Golden State Warriors.
Starting point is 01:39:45 We're not talking about LeBron James. No, we're not. We're talking about OKC. OKC runs it back. Game 5 they win. I don't see them being the, they don't fit that style. So you're not now. I've seen Branyville, Brooks and K.
Starting point is 01:39:58 on the same team and not make the playoffs. So no many people you got it's about the team to fit. You just said, okay, see, beat Golden State. Boom and flew it, and he got a new player. They seemed, they seem, they seen what happened? Okay, fuck us to the, yeah, almost took us out. I don't want nobody else by him. OKC beat them, bro.
Starting point is 01:40:17 They're almost dead. I get it. I know you. I know you. I know you. I know you. I know you. I know.
Starting point is 01:40:25 I know. I know. I know. Collie, they just add everybody. I let it go. You got confused me. You thought I was talking about Cleveland. I get it.
Starting point is 01:40:36 So the real question is, if they did, if you're saying they do be OKC, they do be OKC with DeMarter Rosen and Al Horford, the second year, they don't pick up KD. Do they go beat Cleveland? No. Yeah. No, yeah. Man.
Starting point is 01:40:50 I believe so. Stop. I believe. Nobody cancel that, LeBron. It's the same conversation. No, no, no, no. It's the same, literally the same conversation. LeBron them came back from 3-1
Starting point is 01:41:00 to beat you because you did not have a Kevin Durant. Yeah, you need the cancel out of LeBron. Listen. No, didn't they lose because, wasn't they got kicked out? No. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:41:10 It changes serious. So didn't O.K.C. lose because Russell Westbrook was in miscommunication with KD? No, no, no. Oh, that's communication. We're acting like, we're acting like that's foul.
Starting point is 01:41:24 The Golden State versus Cavs was actually. actually series. When they added Kevin Durant, it wasn't a series anymore. Caz was getting embarrassed. It was not close games. It wasn't. Hey, D hit the game winners two years in a row.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Game winners for a game. The games that matter. The games that matter. The biggest games that matter, KD came out. They were already up three old. No, they were already up two. They were up two. Role.
Starting point is 01:41:55 So, what are now talking about that day, take this home with you? But I'm saying because KD cancels out LeBron and Steph cancels out of Karee and everybody else is on the words. Raymond and Kevin Love. So if you aren't got nobody that can cancel out LeBron, you don't win. So you're telling me right now, Al Horford and DeMarcherose, they added to the team. They got David West to do the same shit as Al Horford.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Okay. You know a little bit of hoop. David. He told a little bit of hoop. It's a little bit of hoop. His swag is almost like you were there. He said, David West can do the same thing as Al Horford? Yes.
Starting point is 01:42:32 What? Pick and pop that with his shit. What? Three? Yeah, I think it's not missed. You shoot threes? Al Rutheran starts shooting threes until he was 40 to 37. Okay, game, game one, they beat him by damn near 22.
Starting point is 01:42:48 Yeah. Game three beat him by ninth. Game two, or game one, they beat him by 23. Game one beat him by 19. The closest game was five. Man. We know the backbreaker three Five. We know the back
Starting point is 01:43:01 No love, no, Kyrie, what are you talking about? Kevin Durant. I'm talking about when it got Kevin Durant, it was no series. It was blowouts. 27. We're talking about a moment. You didn't, like, these are blow, these is built-to-ass whoopens. So KD didn't come down
Starting point is 01:43:19 and hit the threes. Thank you. Those are moments. He didn't come down. He didn't come down to hit the three. Yeah, let's stop. Kevin Durrant made his, Kevin Durant was in Cleveland. No, we're talking about why KD was finals MVP. When they're down, when they're up, when they're up three, when they're up three. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Kevin Durant was finals MVP. Is, he had moments. Yes, Gil. He changed the fucking game. Gil, when they're up 3-1 and he came down and hit the shot to close him out. Game 1, yes. Game 1, he had 38. I was there, game 3.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Hey, Nick, Nick, the last time. He did the three same time, two times. You're not, we're not, we're talking, what? You were talking about 2000. I'm talking about 2000. Well, he hit the same shot. I'm talking about 2017, man. So if you're talking about that, 3-1, you're up.
Starting point is 01:44:03 What happened last year, year before this, when y'all was up 3-1? There was no Kevin Durant over there. There was no, but what happened? When you were up 3-1? They came back. So Kevin Durant, let's make sure they don't do what they did last year. Hit them niggas up side the head and send them home. Please.
Starting point is 01:44:23 Moment. Send them home, K.D. Y'all don't have a chance to come back this time. It was over because I was talking to Rand. The shit was over. Last year before that, it was over. It was three one year before that. It was over the same time.
Starting point is 01:44:36 What was it? They kicked Raymond Green out the game. They make shit up now, man. They kicked Raymond Green. What are you all talking about? It's the same exact shit. I'm talking about he was overkill for that series in 2017, the first year he got there. When he played against Golden's, when he played against the Cavs in 2017,
Starting point is 01:44:56 meaning you're not on the team. Game one, they damn near won by, they won by 20-something points. Game two, 27 points, right? Do you think this nigga needs some special shots? They were up 3-1. Thank you. They was up 3-1 in a year before, too.
Starting point is 01:45:12 Who was? The Golden State Warriors, nigger. What does that got to do? Because they lost 4-3. But what does the fuck does that got to do with what I'm talking about? Because they need to have to make sure they didn't come back. They do the same thing that they just happened.
Starting point is 01:45:26 last year. I said they need overkill. So they brought in a guy who made sure there was never going to be this again. Overkill. I'm winning by 30 every game. We're not even going to play no games. We're not even going to play no games. I'm not even going to, it's overkill. If I'm winning by 20 in the finals, every game, it's overkill. That's overkill. I don't even want closed game. Right. That's why I went to the Pizuka. Yeah. That's why I went to go getting. I want a guy who's going to score 38, 33, 31, 35, 39. That's what I want. You got this overkill is because you couldn't do that with no Al Horford and fucking
Starting point is 01:46:00 You're not going to be able to be You're not going to be able to be 40 and all that sit If you wanted that, I'm talking about to beat OkC bro. Why are you keep trying to pretend I'm saying the calves? Because that's who we're talking about right now. The calves had money to sign a free agent. They could have signed.
Starting point is 01:46:20 They didn't need to because they just came back from fucking 3-1 and 1. We can take them niggas out. ain't tripping on them. We don't need to reboot. They do. And they reboot it. Okay. So if they are Kevin Durant is what we're talking about. A cabing the rent, stay nigger. What the fuck is
Starting point is 01:46:36 going on with Golden State? They're not a fucking problem at all. We take care of them. It's us against Cleveland now in the championship. We're not worried about the Warriors. 73 and 9, y'all blew it. You see, it's just, this is the fucking, that's why we say it's delusion. You don't think your team
Starting point is 01:46:52 is good enough because you can't get a free agent. The only free agent you can sign is your own player back. Golden State can sign a max player or two players that are good players. Cleveland has money also. Duane Wade was supposed to sign there
Starting point is 01:47:09 but they had the same thought you had. We just won it. We don't need no new players. So Golden State went and said, ah, y'all not sign nobody? We're going to get Kevin Durant. Who are you going to get now? Duane Way thought he was going there. He didn't go there. And they went and got done leaving.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Did the Cavs go back to the finals that next year? Yeah. And then the year after that? You want to know what score was? Did they go after that? Yeah, they went back to next year. So two straight years, they went back to the finals.
Starting point is 01:47:35 4-1. The team of Kyrie Irvin, LeBron James, Kevin Love. Core. The team that they beat, Clay Thompson, Steph Curry, and motherfucking Draymond Green. Core. You keep their core together.
Starting point is 01:47:49 You keep our core together. We're going to do what we did to y'all. Y'all had a magical season. and 73 and 9, we spoiled that shit. You had to add to your core three. We did not, and we still came back to the finals. And you took a guy that John beat. They was up on y'all.
Starting point is 01:48:12 You had to go get him to get back to where we didn't have to add nothing. So y'all not fucking with us. No, we did. Now we're no fucking out of working in no department. You know what? That's what? That's called bad. That's called bad.
Starting point is 01:48:27 You need Kevin Durand. No matter who I be. No matter who I be eyes. What I'm saying is in the brother. No matter who I did. I got them. Good business. So if you want to get back there with the same team, good luck.
Starting point is 01:48:42 There's a reason it was 4-1 because you thought your team was that good. And no Kyrie in 2018. And you should have got somebody else. But you didn't. You felt like you was going to do this and got it. And you got your ass barbecue. your ass barbecue hit across the head oh they got Kevin the rent we good knocked out not it was it was a it's called it's called good business you got you got all this
Starting point is 01:49:05 money calves had money to go sign people i thought we were talking about okay c no you keep changing it huh okay we was talking about okay see you changed into the cab i'm my okay yeah see now you see now you see now you're going back it's full circle hey we do a full circle I'm happy they did that. Hey, what I'm saying? I'm happy. I don't know. I can play with the win.
Starting point is 01:49:28 If I can take steroids to jump over a motherfucker, like, I'm like the 90s baseball, right? I'm going to take steroids to hit this ball off the park, okay? Off the park. That means it's, that means, that means, no, what I'm saying is off, it landed, it went in the water, someone, I got people. Like, you remember, like back then in San Francisco, people bought boats to catch the ball? Yes. Right?
Starting point is 01:49:51 I don't give fuck what you call me. I love tomorrow. But, Kay, he's not making a difference in beating Cleveland. I'm sorry. I didn't say Cleveland. We're talking about Oakland right there. We're talking about OKC, beating OKC. He started with OKC.
Starting point is 01:50:08 We didn't say nothing about Cleveland. But you're going to have to play Cleveland after you beat OECC, right? Yeah. Right. That means no championship for you. Yeah. I don't. You need one.
Starting point is 01:50:17 I was talking about B. There is no championship for you. I was saying beating OKC. I didn't say that about Cleveland. One last thing we have to discuss where we wrap up for the weekend. Katie also has some interesting comments on personal hygiene. That's my dog. Let's take a listen.
Starting point is 01:50:30 That's my dog. I take shower. You get too much money, man. You get too much money, man. That's what I mean? We get too much money, man. You don't care about showering and haircuts. I shower.
Starting point is 01:50:40 I shower. I just love shower. But I might go a day without two days. I might go two days sometimes. You know what I mean? Hoping in that water. Wait until I get to the gym. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:50:48 No, no. No, no. No, no. Some time. Shower pill? No, Katie, no. I'm not saying I got work out. I'm not saying if I'm sitting in the house, like,
Starting point is 01:50:55 if I'm sitting in the house, like, if I'm not, I might just want to go musty for the watch your ass, man, watch your ass, man. Katie said if he's just sitting at the house not doing shit, he might want to go musty for a few days. Also said he rarely uses lotion except on his hands. I feel from the trenches. What a pretty boy saying. Where is these stone walled niggins being built, fit? No, man.
Starting point is 01:51:16 Like, I don't know, man, I'm sorry. How do y'all got like a lot of lotion? Let me love that, bro. They can just ashy. All in here, just ashy. That's sticky. That's sticky. That sweat is sticky.
Starting point is 01:51:28 That's sticky. That's nasty. That's nasty. Gotta be manicured. He'll wash his ass. No, I'm saying, like, when you get out of the shower, like, you don't like lotion to make you skis. I'm a man, fuck all that.
Starting point is 01:51:40 You take a shit. I'm a man. You post a shower after you take a shit. I'm a man. Showing after bullshit on. Yeah, shower. What's a real. If you go to somebody house and ain't got baby wipes, run.
Starting point is 01:51:49 Run. Man, what? What's going to be a baby wife's washing your ass? You better run. Run, dirty, nasty. You can't do nothing. The seat is nasty. Put the toilet seat up.
Starting point is 01:52:00 I like baby. I like baby. Baby wife. Look. The man, where's the white? Hey, don't make white. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. What?
Starting point is 01:52:09 You go out there and play some hoop. Look. You play some hoop. That's disgusting. You can. You can't. You got that. You got that.
Starting point is 01:52:17 Just to make sure you thoroughly cleanse the air. If you're getting your oil change, you want to thoroughly cleanse the oil. Yeah. Yes, baby wipes and if they ain't got water in their house, get out. Oh, you're saying if they don't have baby wipes and water. Oh, wait. I think you said if they did have baby wipes.
Starting point is 01:52:28 No, no, no. If you don't have baby wipes, yeah, if you don't have baby wipes. Yeah, baby wipes and water. Hey, do this for the camera. So I'm a man, bro. I ain't got to, who want to be pretty like that. No, you got to show your camera. Me and my woman go, oh, you put the lotion.
Starting point is 01:52:44 No, come on. That's my way and said he let me get the do the white, man with you. I'm going to like this. The dude or wife. Like you do no paper. It ain't tough. Why are you going to be tough getting a manicure? Chad, you learn something.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Day, get baby wife. Y'all be like this. Getting a manicure. But do you flush them down the toilet? Hell yeah. Can you make it clear? Who's doing the clear going? No, we're saying lotion, man.
Starting point is 01:53:06 We're saying lotion, Nick. Like this on the phone like this. Like this on the phone. And then you got your shit between your toes. Uh-huh. Yep, that's etiquette. That's etiquette. That's etiquette.
Starting point is 01:53:17 That's etiquette. Bro, you got hands like a mechanic. Might as well just... You got hands like... Put a wig on. You got hands like a mechanic, bro. I'm a man, bro. No, yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:28 Not watching your ass. Not watch your ass. And all that man's shit that you still shower, bro. Still shower. Yeah. You can't be shit and then sit around for two days. I know what the lotion part. Yeah, yeah, put the lotion on, man.
Starting point is 01:53:41 How you doing, Mr. Jones? Like, look at that. Like, you see what I'm doing? Nah. Man. You got them pet Beverly hands, man. I grew up in a different household. We know.
Starting point is 01:53:51 Dirty Dish. Daddy did too, though. I'm a lambie, tamay. That's what I'm saying. You still learn from your daddy, but you wanted to have impressed these. You know my dad. He wanted to be a pretty boy.
Starting point is 01:54:00 He wanted to be a pretty boy around meskins. So shower after do-do-wit, keep do-the-wipes at the house. Doodle wipes and water. What's the long as you can go without show? Shower every day, twice a day. So two showers. Right. Power twice a day.
Starting point is 01:54:12 That's how I get it. Wake up, shower before you go to bed, shower. If you work out in the middle of the day, shower. After your workout. Okay. You can go to your closet. It takes shit to go to the gym in your gym bag.
Starting point is 01:54:24 That's why it's called a gym bag. Take a shower in the morning. Take a shower after you golf and then take a bath with your morning. What if you have a morning workout? You shower before the morning workout or you just knock the morning workout out then shower after? No, you just, all you got to do is shower. I got to get a shower to wake up. So I jump in a shower to wake up, then I go workout, then take another thing.
Starting point is 01:54:44 Yeah. Why do you think I'm late here because I get in the shower at 11, 15, some reason. Do you have a clock in the shower there? You got time to do it, nigga, knock that shit out. Let me clean up. I'm gonna clean up. But dude, good, when you're in the shower to left here, you have a clock to monitor or you just go off by.
Starting point is 01:54:59 That's too much washing. I ain't. I don't brush your teeth. You got, first of all, you're watching that many tiles. You're still dirty as you used the same thing. First of all, Nick, you got dirty. To shower. But I don't got time.
Starting point is 01:55:11 You used the same towel. What are you talking about? How many times do you use the same towels? You got fresh towels, nigger? For three showers? A day? Three? Yes, three different towels.
Starting point is 01:55:21 I got two towels. I got two towels. You know the washing machine is. But you're not washing, man, come. The washing machine take an hour or something to wash. You buy 10 towels at a time, bro. That's why I got them. It's all right.
Starting point is 01:55:34 They're done in two days. No, you can actually wash them after you get out the shower and they could put them in the wash. Got to wash the ass, man. You got to wash your ass. I'm not taking. What the fuck are you talking about? We take showers at home. I'm not taking the difference between him.
Starting point is 01:55:47 He takes 24 hours. fit the showers. Not a bad place to show you cut down your water bill. There's only so many boxes. I take shout out. But most of his showers coming from here. It's no, it don't know. It's it don't matter if it's thick, thin or what. You clean it off at the same file. You clean it off at the same style. You're dirty. So you're saying, All that dirt sheet is still $24,000. I ain't never seen a fucking towel that cleaned the cell. Do you watch between the crack of your ass?
Starting point is 01:56:26 It don't matter what color it is still dirt. So you'd rather not take a shot. I can't see it. I'm not taking three showers a day. I don't care if nobody's doing that, bro. Do you watch between the crack of your ass and everything? No. Why do you want to know if I'm washing clean your ass?
Starting point is 01:56:39 I mean, that's clean your ass. What the fuck? You don't watch between the crack of your ass? When you shower, what you're supposed to do? Wash your ass, right? Everything. You're supposed to. But you said, you don't.
Starting point is 01:56:48 agreed to say not taking a shower. Not two times a day. No, you said at two days, he don't take shower. Sometimes we got a power one. Take it off and put a little power water water water. Man, listen, man, you better white your ass, white, yeah. She was tired for two days and was like, all right,
Starting point is 01:57:03 if you're not doing nothing. Do you know how many hours there is in the day for you to just be like, nah, I'm cool, I smell. Listen, that's that sour rag. It ain't that bad. Nuts just a sweltering, niggas. A hundred and four degrees. You smell that.
Starting point is 01:57:16 You smell that shit. No. That's a problem. You know, hey, you sit in there like, Oh, it's all good, baby. I didn't fart, but it's no fart. It's my nuts. No, bro, I'd be gaming.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Don't do nothing. Just gaming for full five hours. And you start smelling. That's a problem. It's called B.O. You know what, B.O. Y'all don't use women de-ordering. It is.
Starting point is 01:57:39 I got to use it. If you smell that bad after five hours. P.H balance for a man. You, T.H. We cheaters. We know. What the fuck? When we use the cheap, we use the same girl's stuff so your girl don't know, right?
Starting point is 01:57:52 See, right? Think about it. If your girl were a material, you wear it so she don't know the difference, right? You wear the little strawberry shampoo and all that stuff. So when you go to the workout first, where you go to the work? No, no. You go to the strawberry. You go to the man.
Starting point is 01:58:08 I'm telling me. I don't do that. I go to the man house. Man, we got new stuff for us. We got new soaps and all that shit for us. Nah, man. Use that secret. Dove?
Starting point is 01:58:18 When you wear the dove? Like, why you saw a dove? Yeah. I feel like that. I feel like that. I'm an Irish string, man. I'm an Irish string. The Mando pack has dried up.
Starting point is 01:58:30 So we ain't be Mando. We will try to get Mando back. When you go cheat and you dove. So you can smell like how you left the house. I like the bar soap. We don't have Mando. We've been forced to go come in. You're like, you still use the bar soap.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Oh. Hell you know. Old school, nigga. You're using the lufels and shit? Overse. Overseas, niggas. This is Gilles rena, ladies, gentlemen. We give you information about all facets of life.
Starting point is 01:58:56 Three days? Three times a day? Baby wipes. Three different times. Oh, only because... Baby wipes and have some water. No, only because if you wake up to take a shower. I really love smelling me with you.
Starting point is 01:59:06 So the problem is we wake up the shower. You go hoop up in shower. You're going to hoop up in shower, so you get two. We get three, because we wake up and shower, then we go play. Then we take that second. That's where the three come from. Okay. On that note, a very productive way to end the week.
Starting point is 01:59:21 It's kind of that. No, but it's waking up, though. It's like, I want to be fresh leaving out the house, bro. Fuck, dumb shit. Appreciate everybody in the chat for joining us. Appreciate everybody on this couch. Damn! What happened, Gilbert?
Starting point is 01:59:35 I'm sorry. Somebody, 600 years in prison. And they didn't shower? No, it's just saying something. No, it says, reportedly facing. up to 600 years. That's scary you. 600.
Starting point is 01:59:49 That's why you're just snitching all day. I'm just trying to figure out why I put a number on it at this point. Nigger forever. Just in case. For ever. Just put home confine me. Don't. That's why you're just my home.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Infinity. You got infinity years. Fucking numbers old. But this has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa! We'll see y'all next week. Oh, shit. No way.

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