Gil's Arena - Kevin Durant DOESNT CARE What You Think

Episode Date: March 30, 2023

Kevin Durant DOESNT CARE What You Think as Gilbert Arenas discusses Charles Barkley comments towards the Phoenix Suns superstar and what legacy means to NBA Players. Other topics discussed, The Sacramento Kings Clinching the NBA Playoffs, Anthony Davis and The Los Angeles Lakers, Jaylen Brown and the Boston Celtics with Coley Mick. Gil's Arena is NOW LIVE. Every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Brought to you by Underdog Fantasy: Sign up here for a deposit match up to $100 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We got Brandon Jennings with us. We got Rashad McCants full house. That's cool. And remember, if you wanna get down with Underdog go ahead download the app use promo code gills arena And they will match your first deposit up to $100. We're gonna talk go bear in a second But he definitely tricked off my five piece. Oh he did. Yeah, I need a double-double He came through like seven or 15 It's fantasy good we don't bet Goldberg. Goldberg. Goldberg. Goldberg. But get me out, bro.

It's fantasy good. We don't bet. You know what I mean? We pick them. Who picks? We pick them. Who picks? But let's start the show off on a lighter note.

I know, obviously, Paul Pierce, L.A. guy, we're all fans of his. But he dropped a tweet yesterday and posed an interesting question. If a girl asks a guy on a date and make the reservation and invite her girlfriend and you are the only guy Does the guy have to pay even if he got a lot of money? Or how that worked when he really wanted to stay home and post made it. I feel like the guy in this particular situation Name might start with a P and his last name might start with a P as well But if a girl asked you on a date and bring a friend, are you paying for everybody? Okay, so she asked me on a date. She asked you on a date.

And she planned it. I think she made the reservation. And she bring her friend. And then her friend showed up. Tricky. Tricky. I'm just being honest. I'm just being honest.

You go smoking, I don't smoke it out. I have a rule you bring a friend and I'm paying for the friend I gets the friend too alright that's action alright that's just and I'm just saying that's just a rule

if you don't want me to try to talk to your friend you pay for your friend open invitation if I gotta write my open invitation. What if you don't know that until the check comes and then they're just looking at you? Cool. So are you starting off hollering? Hey, hey, hey.

Hey, how you doing? Hey, see you later. See you later. When this drink money going to kick in? When this drink money going to kick in? And the thing is, does the bread part of it really matter, right? Like if I invite somebody on a date, it's expected I'm going to pay. If she made the date, she made the reservation, friend shows up.

But for me, too, it's like, what's the friend ordering? Is she ordering outside of her means? Is she getting food she normally gets? Or is she looking at the menu like, oh, I'm going to do the steak and lobster today, when that's not really what she normally does? Joe, you sound like you're experienced in this. You haven't dealt with this before. I'm a square. I'm married, but, you know, in're experienced in this. You done dealt with this before. I'm a square.

I'm married, but you know, in my younger heyday. You know what's going on. I've been through it a lot. I ain't even gonna lie. I know you. Yeah, I hear you. You married, so how about you? It's called, you know, what they call it, the groupies,

how they chase for the food. The foodies? The foodies. Yeah. It's literally, man, you got to be careful, man, because they just going for what they ... They really ain't tasted this type of steak before. They want to go to this restaurant. They want to bring their friend.

Like Gil said, it's the rules and regulations to these decisions you make. I'm a gentleman, so I'm just paying. I'm just giving a bar so she knows. Okay, well, you know. Are you going to be offended at all if she starts over ordering? Like she orders appetizers and doesn't even eat the appetizers and expects you to pay for that? No, I'm not even thinking about it because I'm thinking like Gil.

You order the wings and she eats too many wings. Like six wings come out and she's eating four. First of all, you know you're raising shame. So we're not really looking and you know like- There's principles though. Like I've been, there's plenty of times where you know you're with someone and then someone's inviting someone and you're just like paying for the whole meal. There's been bills where it started off as two and ended up as ten.

And then we're talking about $500,000 bill. But if it's two on one though, we excited in the moment. I'm just talking in my new form. My new form is you know,

you're over the door. You're setting yourself up. Thank you. Yeah. You're over the door. You know what I mean? We excited, right? Listen, you setting yourself up. Thank you. Listen, as a woman, as a woman, you're setting yourself up because you're bringing your friend around your baller. Come on now.

Uh-huh. Around your baller and he sees you. Order whatever you want. You know, you go, gentlemen, order whatever you want. She going to go in the back door. Hey, thank you for dinner. Catch a bar. Thank you for dinner. I appreciate it. Don't let her be fine too.

What if the friend looked like Freddie Jackson and the girl just bringing a friend to improve how she's looking? Then you tell your girl, you're gonna have to do extra tonight. You're gonna have to do extra. You're gonna have to pay for your friend other ways. Okay. Or other ways. Oh, other ways. And we'll leave it at that because we're a family-friendly show. Appreciate you, Underdog Fantasy. All right, let's talk about some basketball stuff now.

We got Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant made his return last night. We dropped like 16. Wasn't the best, but he missed like 10 games. Son's got the win. That's all that matters. But interesting interview came out today he did with Shams and The Athletic, where he essentially said he doesn't care about his legacy. So I'll read y'all the quote. I don't care about legacy. I used to. I used to want to carve out a

lane or space in this game for myself that people can remember, but it's too much of a thing now. It just becomes too much of a focus on other people, what he's done, what he's done, comparisons. Before when we wasn't doing all this debating, I cared about it. I'm about to be in the same breath as these top guys. It was big. Nowadays, I truly, truly don't care. I truly just want to go out there and produce, be the best I could be, go home, hang with my family.

That's it. So, Gil, I'll start with you. Do you believe that KD doesn't care about legacy? Like I said, I think he cared, just like everyone cares about their legacy when they first come in. That's what we... We have this idea that we've been embedded with of your legacy, but as we've aged, we realize what is legacy, right? You know, everyone's legacy has been questioned. Every great has, their legacy has been questioned.

There's no ironed legacy. So, you know, we're sitting around here, you know, talking about, you know, oh, stay with the same team, this, that, that, that, when in reality no one's going to care at the end of the day. Because for the most part, no one really knows the history like that. Like, how many teams did J. West play for? How many finals? How many championships?

No one knows. We know he's on the logo. Shit, I mean, if you tell a kid, hey, who's on the logo, and it's not Michael Jordan, they're not going to know the person's legacy of that logo. Not getting breaded for it either, which is no royalties. I feel like KD has allowed the outside noise to affect the tradition of what we all as players respect, which is each other's opinions.

For him to say that, it's like you've allowed the fans and the analysts to dictate what your legacy can be when we already cement you as top dog. Like you one of the top dogs. Keep going in the direction of knowing that we appreciate everything you do. Like it's not about what they think and all the criterias they try to push you to meet. It's like, bro, you've been the guy since you've been the guy, bro. It's not too much more shit you need to prove to us. We know what you can do. We might criticize you here and there just because we expect more out of you, but that's just because of the bar you set for yourself and we set for you.

So now we look at it, it's like, hey, you ain't got to prove, man. Let these motherfuckers get you all riled up. You got to come out here and break your neck to do something. You that guy. And that goes for everybody else that has accomplished something. We talked about Draymond yesterday. Dray, you still that motherfucker. You still that guy. Right? You ain't got to prove

nothing to me or anybody else. When you accomplish a certain level of success, man, you ain't got to go out here and prove to people you do this, do that. Even me, I ain't got to go out here and prove to people you do this, do that. Even me, I ain't got to prove nothing to y'all. I mean, I'll talk to y'all all the time about it because I done played in the league. All y'all did, y'all earned a substantial amount of money doing it. I see some of the comments.

We got a lot of great fans who love and support. But some of the comments are like, oh, Gil, how many MVPs has Gil got or whatever? And it's like, huh? I mean, at a point in your career, you one of the top ten players in the league, top five players in the league. So what the fuck is somebody who came and make a left-hand layup be able to tell you about that? Brandon, what you think? I think KD's legacy is good.

I mean, it's great. I mean, he's done everything that an NBA player would want to do, win a championship, win MVP, been to the finals. And everywhere he goes, he becomes the guy anyway. So it's not like, you not like you're going to a situation where you don't become the top dog, number one. I think, well, does KD need to win another ring? So that's another question.

How much does his legacy really change or move with another ring, with another two rings? I mean, he's already who he is. So it's not like if he does it again, he just does it again. We know who KD is. He's one of, like you said, one of the top dogs, one of the top five players in this generation forever. So I think he's done enough.

He just needs to just end it well. Just end it well. That's all I'll say, just end it well. The real question I think is, where is he going to rank when it's all said and done, right? Is four, five, six, seven championships going to put him in front of Michael Jordan? Right? If the answer's no,

if he wins ten more championships, are we going to put him in front of Michael Jordan or LeBron? The answer's going to be no. Let's say he wins seven, because he wins ten more, I think. He wins seven, then they're going to say, well, how many scoring titles? They're going to find, they're going to throw something in there. If he wins say, well, how many scoring time does he have? They're going to find. They're going to throw something in there.

If he wins seven over the first two, it don't count. They got him with Steph. So if the answer is no, then if the highest he can get is two or three, best ever, then no, him having another championship. But it don't matter because it's not going to do anything for his mark. His legacy is his legacy. So you're saying, oh, you know, if LeBron wins five more, they're not going to put him in front of Jordan for the Jordan

fans. So him winning five more or not, if they're going to put him number two, he's going to still be number two. Period. So I think the thing with KD especially, leaving OKC to go to the Warriors after they had that 73-9 season, lost the championship to LeBron and the Cavs, we all remember. People talk about loyalty all the time.

When teams do what's best for them, it's not a big deal. That loyalty ain't an issue, right? But when players do what's best for them, they get criticized. So is this a KD issue or more of an issue of player empowerment? It's the system. They want you to pay back the system. When you start thinking of your own, when you start wanting to have your own ideas and you want to do things your way and you know what's going on, it's a threat because now

they can't have those conversations that they would want to have with you, I mean with your management or whoever. Now they got to have it direct to you. So now the conversation changes. Now the whole demeanor changes. I mean, I agree with that. This is something you got to deal with when the upper management got to deal with direct. The direct approach changes the dynamic of engagement, dialogue, and understanding the

culture. You got to be able to talk my language. And I think that's important for us. If we want to get deals, we won't talk my language. And I go back to Gil when he set his standard with his contract, like, I want this sweet, I want this term. Like, kids, go back and watch that episode because it's important for you to understand

you set the bar for what you want. You set your own reality, especially if you take control of that. You give them understand, you set the bar for what you want. You set your own reality, especially if you take control of that. You give them control, you plan, and they gain. They get to move the piece where they want it because it benefit them. When they start to direct, direct. Same thing they're doing to Lamar Jackson right now. It's that direct.

It's like, no, I want my deal to be like this. It's a threat. Don't be black. Oh, man. It's the team don't have a face. The organization, it's a name. Fans are loyal to the name, not the player. If you're a Laker fan, you're a fan of all of the Lakers

that come through. Right? You might have your favorite Lakers of all time, but for the most part, you are a Laker fan. So for you, it's the that's the identity. This person comes and goes. We don't need you. We are the Lakers. That's how fans

views are. So when a player decides to go against the fans' view, that's where the pushback comes in. If the team decides that, hey, we want to get rid of you, we're like, yeah, we don't want to do it. Who else we going to get? Who else is in line? That's really how it is. Who else we going to get? You know, so, you know. Who else is up?

Who else is up? You know, and that's really how it is. The Lakers name is Generations. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Our kids, our kids' kids might have a chance to play for the Lakers. Right?

We're going to be forgotten about. We're afterthoughts. Right? All the Boston players, those are afterthoughts to those fans. Who is here now? So we're just... You talk about fan and team loyalty, but I look at myself in particular. I'm a LeBron fan.

I don't give a fuck about the Cavs. When he was with Cleveland, I'm rolling with the Cavs because that's the team he's on. He goes to Miami, I'm rolling with the Heat because that's the team he's on. Same thing back to Cleveland, even coming to the Lakers. Because I saw it. I saw it with my pops dealing with Donald Sterling with the Clippers. Like, how the fuck am I supposed to be a fan of this team when I got the owner of this team calling my house, making threats, threatening lawsuits, talking crazy and grinding me to my pops. And I saw the effect that had on him. So y'all see it as well.

To your point, like, when they're negotiating these deals, it's the Nets, right? They don't look at Joe's side. Maybe he's the owner, but we're worried about the team. So KD said he wanted to leave the team. We take that person. We don't know what's going on internally. But also, too, just talking about this kind of ring-chasing situation.

And it's like people working their everyday jobs, you're going to work at a whack-ass company because they were the first company to give you a job? I got to stay here for the rest of my life? You had a retirement party? But that's how they think from a fan perspective. Oh, well, this team drafted job. I got to stay here for the rest of my life. We had a retirement party. But that's how they think from a fan perspective. Oh, well, this team drafted you. You got to stay here for the rest of your life. It's always, when it comes to sports, we think a certain way.

When you try to reverse it into our everyday life, hell no. Hell no. Hell no. No employee out there would take a pay cut for another employee in that office. Come on now. Hell no. It makes no sense. Right? No. Yeah, you're supposed to give me $50 an hour and now you're talking about $25 so I can

give you $25. I don't even like this motherfucker like that. That's what they would be thinking at work. But we can make the company better. But hell, cool. We can make me more money at the top. Like, come on, man. But nobody, when you switch it to their regular life,

they're not playing by the same rules. That's what makes it the biggest joke of all. So do you have a problem with guys like KD, guys like LeBron, who are able to force their way out of situations? Force? KD's with the Nets. Trade deadline coming up I don't want to be here anymore send me to this not for forces I'm not gonna play I'm gonna sit here

into you that's technically question it's kind of almost forced but kind of not like he's under contract they gotta make a decision he's making them make a decision. Let me. If the teams are allowed to do it, and they're allowed to openly shop you. Yeah. Right? They're allowed to openly shop you. Then you should be able to openly request trades and see what your value is. Isn't that the point? Lamar Jackson.

They're doing a Lamar Jackson, right? They're saying, hey, go out there and see your value. But they're also colluding with Lamar because other owners with boo-boo quarterbacks are basically saying, well, we don't see it with this former MVP. No, no, no, no. A franchise changer. It's more. So, OK, so in NBA terms, right, he's technically a restricted free agent. Yep.

Right? But they're saying, hey, we want him back. I want him back. I want him back. So now you're sitting here like, why am I going to bid for him? Why am I bidding for him if you're going to match my offer? Right. Right?

It's just pointless to me. I'm just helping set the tone. So you're like, and that's all it is. The other owners are like, why am I going to try to lock my money up? Because I got to, okay, $200 million. I got to write this check. And then you got five days. Now I got to write five days.

And now he wants it. Like it kind of puts them in a bad situation. It doesn't though, Gil. It's a buddy system if you really think about it. If one team says, go out there and see how much he's willing to take at this offer, we got to match whatever that offer is, right? So if you can collude with another couple teams to say, hey, man, look, we don't want to move them, but we don't want to pay them.

Y'all go ahead and lowball them. Remember how they used to lowball players when you get into your contract year? They don't showcase you so other teams can bid for you at the highest bidder. Right? So they make you not play, not play. You can't see if he's really talented enough or injury-proof enough, durable enough to play. So now they just lowball you.

Give you the lowest offer. Other team come in, match it. Now we got you at a discount price. You would think that, but it's owners. They're businessmen. I don't give a fuck about you. But they collude. You know they collude.

I know. They collude with each other. Unless they're friends, they don't get along. I'm trying to beat you. I don't give a fuck what you... Listen, you want me to lowball your player? All right, I'll lowball what you... You want it for 150? Hey, listen, I'm going to give you 151.

What you going to give me back? I'm going to give you another 50 under the table. Right? I don't care. But see, the problem with this is this. If he was unrestricted... Football should be like this. Because you can franchise the player and do all that. Like I don't know the logistics of it, but it should be more of an open market.

If the Ravens or he goes and opens the market and they say, all right, we'll give you $175,000, right? And then you say, oh, $175,000? I'll give you $180,000. He should be allowed to pick where he's going, right? Like you had the first offer. Yep. You didn't want to offer me. He offered me $175,000.

I'm saying, fuck it, I'm going with him. I don't care about your offer anymore. Exactly. See, if he was allowed to do that, I don't think there would be this bullshit. Because now, if I get the $175,000 and you're allowed to match it, I'm forced to go back with you.

Yeah, that's my thing. And now I don't even fuck with you no more. Yeah, and you just match it. That's what I was just talking about. You just match it. You just get to match it. Like, I'd rather just say, all right, I got go back with you. Yeah, that's my thing. And now I don't even fuck with you no more. Yeah, and you just match it. That's what I was just talking about. You just match it. You just match it. Like, I'd rather just say, all right, I got the offer from you. What's your offer?

All right, cool. I'm going to just go ahead. Fuck it. Now you got to come back and offer me. And then I'm... To your point, it's like restricted free agency to an extent. Like, you think about DeAndre Ayton in the situation with the Suns. Suns basically played him.

He went and got the offer sheet from the Pacers. Suns were able to match. Difference to NFL with Lam the Mars case is that he gets A higher offer sheet somewhere else and he ends up going there They got to give give up two first-round picks too because of the way that franchise tag works So that's worth like another layer of it comes so I gotta give him the bread and I got to give up two first-round picks So that's even more reason. Yeah, Lou. That's my point. Yeah, yeah They didn't collude it is just a fucked up system. Yeah, it is.

Well, they have to operate that way. In order to get you done, they got to operate like that. No, what I'm saying is it's like, all right, I want you, but I don't want to give up two first rounds because I got to think about my future. So, like, I don't mind paying you the 230, but then I lose two potential first rounders. Yeah, on top of that so it's it's kind of like

like how do I supposed to build with you then you gotta believe in me to build you gotta believe that I'm worth those two picks

then I gotta I gotta I gotta no no no you're worth the two picks right plus the 230

plus the 230 but is my team good enough to win without two first round picks in the future that's the point that's hard that's the risk. That's hard.

That's the risk that you've got to take with that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good luck. Last thing we'll say on this KD topic, I know y'all saw the Barkley stuff earlier in the week, but during a recent interview on 60 Minutes, Barkley had this to say about KD. He's very sensitive, great player.

He's part of that generation who think they can't be criticized. He's never looked in the mirror and said, man, is that a fair criticism? So KD saw that, responded with a quote tweet that said, this ain't getting tiring, Chuck. I'll never respect the words that come out of your mouth, fam. Just deal with it. So I want to ask y'all, now that y'all are on this other side

now, y'all are former players, but now technically media. We're not square media. We're a little bit different. But what do y'all think about Barkley's comments and just the KD Barkley beef in general? It's no accountability from the older players on who they were when they played. Yes. Were they sensitive when they played?

When they were sensitive when they played. Barkley threw somebody through a window. No, no, that's a little. I'm not a role model Barkley. Yeah, we're trying to talk about the guy, like, remember he went to Houston, right? And then he was throwing players under the bus, talking about they were out of shape

and doing all that, trying to ring Chase. And he was one of the reasons that they didn't win. There was no accountability there. He was sensitive to all that stuff. Like, you was a sensitive player. You didn't like criticism, right? So you should know exactly how he's feeling for you not to come at him like that. That's the weird thing, and that's why players don't respect,

because players, we can fucking Google everything you've done. Right? We have Google now. So I can Google Charles Barkley comments, and then I can sit there and say, wait, you're doing the same thing I did. Why are you coming at me like you're all high and mighty? And that becomes a problem between players and the ex. I mean, I think every time Charles brings it up,

he's just playing to their game. It's just always going to be friction. KD's playing for the Phoenix Sun, so it's like, you know, he's on the team that you're cheering for and you're still criticizing him. So it's just like, I mean, and at the end of the day, like we see way more than what they did, like in comments and stuff. They would do a comment, it would be in the paper, and that'd be it. Like they're not hearing nothing about it.

KD, get after a game, it's a million comments on anything that he's doing. So he knows, like he hears it. Like he knows that, you know, he hears the noise. Trust me, he can't run away from it. KD get after a game, it's a million comments on anything that he's doing. So he knows, he hears it. He knows that, he hears the noise, trust me, he can't run away from it. He's socially active too. Yeah, socially active. So it's like he sees it. So he gets it. So I get it from KD. It's like, I get it. I get it. But he trolling. Chuck just trolling him? I feel like it's never really personal. I feel like Chuck know as a media, he got to do something to get under these guys' skin

just to provoke a response. Let's say KD not giving the response Chuck like. Just like when DeMarcus Cousins was in the league, he was going after Marcus. Go at DeAndre. He go at all the bigs that he felt like didn't play hard, like he played. It's all a reflection thing with Chuck, right? For him to keep going at KD, he's trying to poke the best out of him, just like how Shaq be doing with certain bigs.

I'm just trying to... You see he went out there and played, right? Chuck do the same shit. I think just with Durant, he's tired of it being so personal. You know what I'm saying? Because as players, we know what's personal and what's not. We can feel like, that was a personal jab

right there, Chuck. I don't like nothing you're saying. Every time you say something about me, I feel personal. Like, when I see you, I got to say something, too. You're a better basketball player than you.

So why are you talking about me? You're saying Katie should say that to Chuck. That's what it's like. Look what I've accomplished. So it's like,'s that's what's like look look what I've accomplished like So it's like to Katie is like dude What do you like what else do you want me to do exactly in this game? Like what else do do I need to do? Yeah, I want to rings MVP audit like I've done everything when Barclays defense

He didn't bring it. He was asked a question. He responded to it So I think from a media standpoint like you saying they also know I was gonna get clicks We got Chuck sitting down in his chair. Let's ask him about KD. Whatever we put up. It's going to bait KD out of the tunnel. He's going to wake up. I think sometimes, you know, as players,

when we're dealing with the media, when we're playing, we're too humble. Yeah. 100%. We're just too humble. 100%. Right? It's like we have more respect for them than they have of us.

Yeah. And I think sometimes when we realize that, like, you just said it. I don't know why KD hasn't said it. First of all, dude, I'm better than you. Right? I was better than you fucking seven years ago. When I left to go play for Golden State, I was better than you already. Right? Yes.

So why are you talking about me like I'm one of these other players? My career's better than yours. You lucky the 75 ain't ranked so you can see that I will be in front of you already. That right there, that a humble, that a humbler motherfucker right there. Yeah, yeah. He can stutter and shit. Well, well, well. You know, Shaq can be that motherfucker giggling and singling. Can he too, shit, all of it.

But, you know, at the end of the day, you know, like Chuck, like Shaq now, it's entertainment. Sometimes we hear stuff when we don't want to. I don't like Stephen A. Smith. I didn't like these guys when I played. Now I'm on the other side, I can see the humor. The humor in it. You know what I mean?

It's like, all right, I know y'all have a job to do. I get it. Make it about the job and try to stay out of the personal part of it. Okay. Talk about my game. But is it our job too as entertainers to not take it personal? To equal the balance of it being entertaining, right? So if you know Chuck is trolling he trying to be entertaining

Let me buy into that a little bit and be entertaining back because Katie does it with some people you know He'll respond in a way where it's like funny, and it's like I'll hit you with a so when it's personal It's like when you respond personal. That's when it becomes personal. It's like, yo, I hear you, Chuck. I hear you. But I ain't paying no attention to you. But when you start getting like, hey, man, I never respect nothing that come out of your mouth. That's when it's like, don't come over here to shake my hand at the wedding. I don't want to see you.

I'm good. I just say sometimes we just have to understand that court play is different than off the court, you know, conversations, right? You know, when you talk about, oh, KD's sensitive. That's his personal. You should be talking about his game. Like, you know, how'd he do tonight? 16 points. Did you, like, Stick to that point.

Don't talk about the attitude and all that stuff. That's when it becomes, all right. You got to be careful of your troll. He'll end up like Chris Rock. I got time to date. I got time to date. All right, well let's keep this thing moving and shaking. Now we got to talk about the Sacramento Kings.

Kings ended a 16-season playoff drought. It was the longest of any major American sports. Now the Jets are in the lead 12 seasons since they've been out. They might get Aaron Rodgers. It might change. We'll see. But let's light the beam. We don't got the beam, so can I get a little smoke?

A little smoke for the Kings. Making these playoffs. Congrats. That's a little time of the day. That's a little time of the day. Making these playoffs. Congrats. That's a little smoke on time today. So last time the Kings made the playoffs was 2006. We was rocking 5X Pro Club religiously. Some of y'all had the sidekicks and the next tails with the key by the three. Whoa, you said 2001?

2006. Wow. But you're explaining shit from 2003. Yeah, 2Ks. I had the Pro Keds in 2003. We weren't rocking? No. You weren were walking. No your next hills and all that That's 2002 and one With hypnotic That's with the G unit on! Yeah! It was rolling!

It was fabulous and all that. Yes! I gotta keep by the thing with that chirp shorty chirp back. That was 2006. We had the Nexos before that, but it finally made its way into rap music in mainstream. Everybody had them GMCs with the rims and the beat in the back. Then we got the 2Tans,

the 50s. Dips up! Dips up! Yeah, that was, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, that was that. For those of y'all who don't remember, 2006, It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp won the Oscar for Best Song, so salute to that. They were singing that shit at the Oscars. Terrence Howard. Yeah.

Yeah. Three six. Pimpin'. Three six. Memphis has been pimpin'. So the Kings have been balling. Keegan Murray set the rookie record for three pointers. Sabonis De'Aaron Fox, both all-stars.

And Fox is having probably his best season of his career. So I need to ask you guys, you three astute NBA knowledgeable human beings, has De'Aaron Fox earned a spot on an all-NBA team? Yeah, this year, yeah. This year? 13? Yeah, 13. Yeah, 13 at least. I'm giving? Third team? Yeah, third team.

You giving him third? I'm giving him third just quick response, third without thinking. Like, third. Third. Without thinking. Yeah, third. Meaning he's deserving of just being there. Yeah, like I'm just all right.

So if we cypher through it, he could move up. He could be second team. He could. I love, that's how it should be, period. If you're not first team, you get to throw them in the box and say, we'll figure out where we put you because you make sense on this team, that team. Because a lot of times we just throw motherfuckers in there and they'll be

like, oh, he got to be here because, you know, this is third team criteria, this is second team criteria. It's like, no, man, everybody kind of, because Fox and SGA, to me, are. They both balling. They balling. Both balling. But then statistically… No, no.

What's so funny is when you say third team and then you say, all right, who's first team? It makes you sit there like, all right, who's having a good year plus balling. Yeah. Right? And then when you realize, shit, he can make second team. Man, he's been really balling. Right? Are you looking at his last 25 games?

Man, and I'm saying now Drew Holiday, Shade can make 13. Come on, man. When you look at the last 10, 20 games, 30 games, you're like, man, he's really been balling. This guy only been balling the last seven. Wait, who would be first team guards right now? Western? Or, I mean, that is. I mean, Luka. So point guard? Yeah. Yeah. ball in the last seven. Wait, who would be first team guards right now? Western? So point guard?

Yeah. I mean, you got to put Steph in there. Do you? Wait. You see what I'm saying? Like, wait a minute. Hold on. You put Dave in there? You got to put Dave in there. Your record got to be. Is the first team NBA?

Everything is... Criteria... It's record plus your play. So let's put the rules down on what the criteria is. But you got Steph, you got Donovan Mitchell, you got Luka, you got De'Aaron Fox. As a point guard? SGA. I'm just saying in the guard spots.

In the guard spots. That's point guard. He fucking around might be first team. Or Drew Holiday. Drew just had a 50 last night. All-star. But Dame, bro. But you gotta be winning though, right? Is it? Is it winning?

You gotta be winning? So they're not Dame out of first team? Dame got shut down for the season, but I think he hit that 50-aim game mark which makes him eligible for an All-NBA team. Yeah, but I'm going by winning. I mean, that is a good question. Because it's only competition wait hold Yeah, no, no, no because

Ja, you know when John it was my own job won't make a team. Yeah, we how he's only missed eight games So he's not eligible again, right? So he's eligible. I think I think it doesn't matter for games played for all NBA I think score entitled this that 58. Okay, so It's a lot of guards, bro. What is DeAndre Fox earning? I mean, what is he averaging? De'Aaron is averaging like 25. Let me pull it up. I should have had it

ready. That's on the big fella. He might fuck around. Second. Second team. Second team. If we talking winning, I'm putting a rope in with that. 25-4-6? So that means two guards. You're going to put what, Steph? I'll give Drew 13. Steph and who?

If we get the roll, we're winning and putting Drew in there. Steph and who is in first team? Luka, I mean. Donovan Mitchell. What is Donovan average in? Donovan Mitchell. You got to put Luka in there, bro. Luka's a monster.

Luka got to go to second. He might go to second team. Really? For his record. How record that record that's Look at all Man Five you gonna give Donovan a little bit was averaging about 28 About five assists for rebound. So he's gonna be first team. He's the first team. Yeah, that's first year was a 28

Yeah, that's first. He ever did 28. I like that. He even. Fox. Fox might be second. It might be Steph. It might be. It might be Steph and Donovan Mitchell at the first team. But you can see Steph's line too. Overtade him.

Potentially because of the game. Donovan overtade him. They have Tatum at three. OK. Small four. And then you have. You got Jalen Brown too who's in the mix. Yeah, a shooting guard

So it didn't might be Fox and Luca in second team. So who's the first team is Stefan who? Donovan's Donovan. Yeah, then you drop look it down if the man's on me I'm going with Stefan if I had to go No, Donovan. I'm going Dame. But y'all saying because of the winning first team. I'm the first team on the NBA, James. I recall in an episode we did, I think last week or the week before, y'all also said that it's more impressive for the stuff that Dame's doing because he doesn't have anybody else around him.

He's basically got to- Yeah, but we've seen this for years. But you've seen he's out right now, and I don't think they're going to give him a- Yeah, they can't reward him for throwing the towel. Ooh, that's going to be interesting how they vote this one. Damn, I don't think they're going to give him a team. Throwing the towel. Yeah. Oh, that's going to be interesting how they vote this one. Damn, I don't like that. Because if he doesn't make second team, we still going to be like, damn. Damn.

Right? Even though we automatically gave him third team, but I think he might deserve second team. I could see Drew making third team. I could see him making third for sure. You rocking a Buck shirt, though, so we got to preface it with that. Oh, yeah. Or you know, I'm talking make a third. You're rocking a Bucs shirt though, so we gotta preface it with that. Oh yeah, or you know, it's family, it's family.

You know, dropping a collab. You know, dropping a collab this weekend in Milwaukee. I'm paying for tickets too though, so give Drew that all you got. No Bucs, no Bucs, let's do it. Alright, but let's talk about these Kings. If the playoffs started today, it would be Kings-Warriors at the 3-6. Warriors have been absolutely trash on the road, and Kings have one of the best home court advantages in basketball,

where I think we can agree it'll be turnt up for those playoffs. Haven't been in a playoff for 16 seasons, though. In any world, can the Kings beat the Warriors in a seven-game series? Yes. Yes. No Wiggins. Let's pretend like Wiggins is not going to go back. I'd say it's a good series.

I'm saying no because they're defending champs and I don't just think they're beating the defending champs. It's a great matchup. Four times? It's a great matchup. No, for sure. It's going to be awesome. It's going seven.

It's going seven. I'm thinking it's going seven. It's a perfect matchup. So you're going seven with four games in Sacramento, but, too, is not an issue. No, no. Listen. Cal Bell. Unless you played for Golden State to go to Kings, it's like Clippers playing the Lakers, and it's the Clipper court. So you're giving the Clipper curse to the Kings.

You'll get drowned out by that. Them Golden State fans is going to flood that arena. So it's not a real home game. Like the SAC is going to try to overtake, but you're talking about in the playoffs, usually it's what, 95% of your crowd? Yeah. And you got a trickle of them.

They're playing right there in SAC. It's going to be 75-25. And because Oakland don't like going to San Francisco, they're going to show up to goddamn SAC town. So, they're going to have at least 25-30% of their crowd. And that's a lot. That's a lot. That's a lot.

But wait, SAC town is back though. SAC, listen, they've been waiting to show up for a long time. So they're going to show up to San Francisco too. And think of this, the matchup we're talking about today, right? SAC and Golden State is perfect. They reflect each other, bro. In and out from the point guard to Herter to Keegan. These are two shooters that match up, not with Klay and Steph, but just the ability

to have two shooters that can shoot. Then you got Fox and Poole who match up as slashers. Then you got Sabonis and Draymond. Then you got Harrison Barnes. And, you know, you got a good matchup. Harrison Barnes revenge game. No, no, no. It sounds good if it's all neutral sight.

But it looks like this. On this side, it's 70-30. On this side, it's 70-30. On this side, it's 100%. Yeah. That is not. That is not. SAC fans can't pull up to Chase Center. Them tickets are fresh.

Oh, it's Chase Center. It's Chase. If it was Oak, I'd keep for games. It's not Oracle. They over there. They over there. They over there like this. I forget.

I forget. How you doing? How you doing? They only got E40 down there. But that's the thing. It's like you're playing against a team. This is like Knicks playing Miami. Which I could have.

In Miami. That is not a Miami home crowd. That's a Knicks home crowd. So Knicks is favored in that series when it comes to the home advantage. Come on, Gil. Because they got to show up. It's play this playoff time No, what I'm saying is Miami is all retired You talking about the old yeah, it's all retired. Yeah, you know Cubans Puerto Ricans. That's from New York City

So if you ever watch a game when New York plays Miami is more cheering for New York plays Miami, it's more cheering for New York. That happens. I don't want to. If you're Clippers, you don't want to play Lakers. I don't play Lakers in a Staples Center or Crypto. It's not a real

home. You don't get the real home environment. I watched the first game. They were booing. They were booing Kawhi Leonard and it was the Clippers game. Like Clippers, he's at the freedom line getting booed as soon as the game started. And it's Clippers. It's Clippers. And they had to, like after the first quarter when Clippers started coming back, then the Clipper fans started to overtake the Lakers fans.

So they were getting punked though before that? They was getting punked before that. So let me ask. So does it matter, home court advantage or not, between the Warriors and Kings with the record the Warriors got now on the road? Seeing that they might have an advantage. Just say, what you're saying is true. Do that still give them with the record on the road? We talked about that.

You was like, yo, they record so trash, do we trust them? Playoffs though. Playoffs. Playoffs is different. Think about it. Think about it. If you're going into... Who was your rival in college? Duke.

Duke. What if you can get 30% of your crowd inside there? At Duke? Yeah. 30%? 30%. inside there? At Duke? Yeah. 30%? 30%. It changes a little bit. Yeah. Because as of right now, it's 100% Duke.

That's hard to win in. Give you a 30%. It's about 95% because we got a small body. Now you can sneak in 30%. It kind of offsets a little. But not really, though, because this is the thing. With Duke, and you talk about crowds, right, and arenas, it was a high school gym.

It wasn't like the Smith Center. So it was small, compact. So even if we were to get 30%, it still don't sway the fact that they got 70 in here strong. That's like, ah! Yeah, but I'm saying 30, though. but 30% can still have you yeah when we score it gives us a little they give you a little something versus zero yeah yeah and that's that's all I'm saying it's like you you they will have the confidence but it's not like a regular road team coming in

there with no fan base you know it's kind of different because when we were starting see they've never both been good together. They've never been both good. Both teams actually been good playing against each other. So 16 years, right, this fan base hasn't seen

the playoffs. When they were the shit, Golden State wasn't. You're right. So they've never really had this battle. So this is going to be new territory.

But when on the road has Golden State literally been zero fans though. That's another thing too. When I played there and when I was with Golden State and we'll go to Sactown, Sactown was in power and Golden State fans were still acting the nut. Right. What I'm talking about now. It didn't end well for them, but they were still acting the nut on well now in well for them but it was still acting a nut on a losing we were we were sorry I'm talking about now though like with Golden State the team now and they're there sorrows on the road yeah right

every role game they play they're not 70 30 in the crowd the crowd is not a factor in that Rose kid they still got fans and they got a lot of fans got fans in the city. They got a lot of fans in the city. Yeah. But this is down the street. Down the street. This is right around the corner. This is buses. I think it's going to be the biggest matchup.

These two are going to be the biggest matchup for sure. If these two get to play, that's going to be great TV. Yes, 100%. 100%. So here's the scenario and the question for y'all. So Kings right now are the three. I think they're two games out of the second spot. They got six games left. Two games out

of second? Two games out of second. They can knock the Grizzlies down. They had been flip-flopping for a little bit while Ja was out. But if you're the Kings, do you try to not get that second spot? And now you're talking about having to play the seventh seed of the plan, which, as of right now, the 7-8 is Timberwolves

Lakers. So there's potential that you can have them Lakers now coming into Sacramento for a series. Who would you rather play if you're the Kings? The Warriors or the Lakers? Warriors. Shit. Damn, that's tough. That's so tough.

I don't want no Lakers. As much as I throw it in and I heard you, I'm like. Lakers. No Lakers, bro. Lakers get them out of there. Lakers win. Yeah, just. I mean.

Remember, you're a King. You've never been. Just 16. Right, but I don't want to start the playoffs against the defending champs. Ooh, you're right. You're in shit show. Yeah, you're, that's what I'm saying. You're, but.

But you got the defending champs. You don't want LeBron in the first round. Potentially without Andrew Wiggins. With AD, he's unhealthy. He's an instrumental player of that team. That's fine. Not a big beauty. It don't matter.

You want to say it? It's just go, because it's the playoffs and the intensity get another level. To me. Knowing what we know, playoffs look better when the Lakers is what? Moving. In it, for sure. Yeah, you want to be the Kings playing against the Lakers. And you knowing it.

LeBron. And you knowing what's going on. Yeah, because, I mean, well, no, I got the Lakers winning that series. Yeah. So I'm saying I don't have the Kings beating the Warriors. So I'm saying I want Sacramento to play the Lakers so the Lakers can beat them. Oh. So you're saying that.

You think you can lose it. So just so they can beat us. Let me get the biggest out of here. If you're the Kings, would you rather have the Lakers or the Warriors? Because both of them are going to be tough. But you're saying you should try to move it forward. You think they're losing either one of those series, but they might have

a better chance against the Lakers than the Warriors? I mean, both of us must see TV because Braun's out there. I think just Golden State would be more exciting.

It'd be more back and forth. I think this first round, to be honest, as fans, is going to be a blast. Because if Golden State plays Sacramento, that's going to be a blast because if Golden State plays Sacramento that's going to be a war

between that city. Right? If Golden State plays Memphis oh we're going to have a dream we're going to have a shit show. That's going to be a great shit show.

NBA can't lose either way. That's what I be a great shit show. NBA can't lose either way. That's what I'm saying. As a fan, it's like, all right, which one we want? It's like, all right, how about this? Lakers, you go to SAC. Lakers go to SAC, and then we want to see Memphis and Draymond. We want to see that shit.

Would you rather have that? Lakers versus SAC and Golden State versus Memphis? Yeah. Because I like SAC and Golden State versus Memphis? Yeah. Because I like what you said with Lakers matching up with the Kings, right? That's a – it's not a – I don't think it's a good matchup because LeBron, I think he run through them.

Yeah. I think he run through them. He wants the Lakers to win, though. Right. So then they're going to be matching up with the winner of Golden State Memphis, correct? Which is a great series. Either way.

No matter who wins, right? Either way. So that to me is like, all right, what's the matchup after that? Which is a great series. Either way, no matter who wins, right? Either way. So that to me is like, alright, what's the matchup? This is great basketball right there. Great basketball after that. And it's momentum for whoever team wins Memphis and Warriors, that's momentum. Because it's like how well you play in that series

is going to give you momentum on LeBron and them depending on how they sweep through that. If they sweep through that 5-1 or a 4-1, 4-2, whatever the case may be, they get there, they're like, all right, we're ready to go. AD done warmed up. LeBron healthy.

You know, what we got? Draymond and them like, yo, we need momentum to get to these guys because they ready, waiting for us. See, that Golden State versus Memphis, though, that can be that can get a little tricky. I know that I could get a little tricky right there. How so? How so, though? Tell me how so. Because without now, without Andrew Wiggins in that series is going to be tough. What makes it tough on Golden State? It's just it's nothing different. They see it's just it's just it's just I don't I don't want Draymond to play into that Dylan Brooks game. Okay.

Get caught up in that and then lose a game because of some silly stuff or whatever. Because they're going to get rowdy. Yes. So it's just like, is the Warriors, I guess, together enough to be able to get past them? Right. In this? Because they're coming, man. I think the Dylan Brooks will be a real big factor in that

because the advantage he has is Memphis don't really need him. They don't really need him to be successful offensively in that series to win it. If he can actually fuck with Draymond to the point Draymond offensively trying to do what he does is off.

And because we don't know, we don't really know. We can't say who's actually better than who. Right. You know, they're like right, they're a few plays away from anyone can win this series. So, I want to see that series. It's going to be mental. It's going to be a mental series.

Have you noticed we never talk about, like, this is the first, we never talk about Steph in this mental thing. It's like, we already know, Steph going to do Steph in this Mitchell thing it's like we already know step gonna step that is crazy any every other team that we talk about, we talk about the star here and there. When it comes to the Warriors, never question Steph because Steph does what he does. We're trying to figure out who... That is crazy to the point where he is... We guaranteed him. It's like FDA approved.

Yeah. When we talk about the Warriors, you're like, alright, we mentioned the other star without mentioning, because that's his comparable. Whoever the other star on the other team, yeah, you got to match up with Steph. He's one of that battle. We're good with that.

So we talked about these Lakers then being a threat. Now it's time for Hibachi time. Ooh. Ooh, ooh, ooh! Hibachi. So Ooh. Ooh, ooh, ooh! Hibachi. So we got to talk about Anthony Davis. Now, AD,

eight game Sunday in the Lakers-Bulls game. We were very critical of him earlier in the week. Lakers came back out to Chicago. He came to his hometown, put on a show 38-10. It was his 16th game with 30-10

this season. So the question for all y'all, we see it seems like two different versions of AD. We see that version that can go out and look like he's one of the top three, top four bigs in the league. Then we see the other dude who looks like he's shying away from the moment, deferring to LeBron and not really wanting to put the team on his back So is it fair to expect this version of ad for every game or at least every game for the rest of this season? There's this You know, I know they don't do analytics on this but there's a reason that there's superstars Right. There's all stars and then there's average players. The levels is this.

It has nothing to do with our skill, right? Our skill is our skill. It's out of the 82 games, how many games can I play at a certain level, right? Talk about it. the top tiers, those elites, out of 82 games, they're going to try to come to play at least 76 of those. Even if they're not having a great game,

they're figuring out how to win it, 76. Now your all-stars, they're around 68. Those guys, you're like, there's just something not there 41s Right and then and then the flock right so when you're talking about Anthony Davis And you're looking at eight then 38, right? Well, that's what we respect from someone who?

Underperformed right your bounce back was back was great yeah but it's like when i'm evaluating him i'm evaluating how many games like if you average in 20 you know 26 how many games 26 and above did you do for this season how many games were in the teens like so when we talk about like james i remember i was showing my son, like, look at the fucking consistency. His mind. Like, I've never, like, when you look at Jordan, right, you look at a certain thing. But I think James Harden owns the most 30-pointers in a row or games and 20s and above. It was like 30 to 40 of them in a row. Like, you know how hard that is to sustain that type of

Concentration and it was just like 30 40 45 30 35 40 50 50 60 see like and I'm just sitting here like Jesus Christ, but that's that's where That that certain level so when you're asking a question, it's like So far no, we have not seen it. So just to break that down, in the month of March. So you're out for a drink. Oh, look at us. We got the audio on the computer. That's my fuck up.

In the month of March, starting from the beginning of the month to now, 38, 39, 30, then 8, 17, a 35, a 26, 15, 27, 37, 15 when LeBron came back, the first game against the Bulls, and then 38, the second game against the Bulls. So been more on the higher side of it, but that was a lot without LeBron playing. There's a certain evaluation you got to give for certain guys in situations, right? Situational basketball goes a certain way when AD does have an eight-point game, right? Ten rebounds. It's like, what happened in that game? Was it a blowout? Was it one of the games where somebody else was hot? Was it one of the games where he

sat back and he was more of a defensive presence? You know, you don't get a lot of stats that come through on the defense when you're anchoring, right? So he has to do his job on that side. It's one of them games where he might take off, right? But it still was a team win. He was a plus 12, plus 14, and it looked good. He didn't need to go out there and score 30. That was against, that eight-point performance was against the Raptors. They won that game. So you look at the 15 and 15 and the 17 and 17s and then erupt for 39 and 18.

I look at certain consistency when it's based around the team morale, the team tradition and understanding that, look, I'm going to do what the team needs me to do while being consistent with my skill set. Right. So if AD can do that, which I don't think he's been able to tap into knowing that consistently on a routine basis I'm gonna give you these numbers like you said with James Harden it becomes routine when you know the minutes you know the touches you know the plays like I know I'm gonna get mine so routinely if I do have an off game it's not because I shot bad or it's because somebody played great defense it's because now somebody else was hot now we got some other things going.

We ran a different play today. But I'm routinely going to be consistent because I know where my numbers are. Right? But has AD found that? Has he found that within the Lakers with LeBron James on the floor? We don't know. He should. I mean, they won the championship together.

Come on, man. That bubble shit don't count, man. I mean, I'm saying the line. Say the line. Say the line. Bubbling guts. Hardest championship in NBA history. Yeah, because everybody was sick man.

Sick or what? Get out of it. Sick or what? Sick or what? Sick or what do you mean sick? They was sick. Everybody in the bubble. That shit don't count man.

How you not going to count that championship? Are you thinking about getting struck? Because you ain't good dude. You ain't did it since. Thank you. Thank you. So who? Who is it't good. You ain't did it since. Thank you. So who?

You ain't did it since. But how come no other team won the championship? Thank you. How come no other team won the championship? The Warriors won? What do you mean? In the bubble I'm saying. No, because it's only one bubble.

We only played in one bubble. But if it was so easy, why didn't every other team win the chip? Why did the team that stood through, persevered, had the lingering? They had the players with the best immune systems. Niggas was sitting there getting their immune system right. But so funny, no one actually got sick in that bubble. That we heard of. That we know about.

No player missed a game. The quarantine inside the quarantine. That we know of. He could have been bench time. This hamstring hurt, okay. I'm telling you, man. Three to four days. Actually, that bubble, when you think about it,

when you think about the people who are playing great in the bubble, that has to be the hardest championship. The reason is this. We know what practice players look like, right? They look like Michael Jordan, right? That game, when they get in that game and they got to see them lights and they got to see them fans booing and stuff, that's what tapers them off. Yeah.

Right? So in the bubble, all the practice players are them now. Yeah. So now, technically, in the bubble, there's more talent. You're going against more talent. And then we've seen players that we've seen them in the bubble, there's more talent. You're going against more talent. And then we've seen players that we've seen them in the bubble. They were great. We ain't seen them much since.

We ain't heard their names since. There was a dude that played for Brooklyn now. T.J. Warren. T.J. Warren was whooping ass. Was that an Indiana guy? Yep. Oh. Whooping ass.

Yeah. He was whooping ass. And we ain't seen him since. But you're right. He was whipping ass. We ain't seen it since. But you're right. That's what happened. Those guys who never got to really play got to show the fuck out when they was in there.

That bubble. Coughing or not. No booze. I wish I was soft. No booze. Yeah. I got my daughter. Hey, man.

Watch daddy do this. You get to see right on the jumbo truck. On the jumbo. I ain't got to look at the crowd. I get to say, hey, daddy about to rock. You get to see right on the jumble trial. On the jumble. I ain't got to look at the crowd. I get to see, hey, daddy about to cook. Watch on the Zoom.

So let's talk about my favorite moment from that game. So we remember Sunday, Pat Bev hit the bucket on LeBron, hit him with the too small. Austin Reeves avenged the honor of his current GOAT Hit it on Pat Bev gave him the too small. Damn 50 million I'm just gonna ask this is more of a hood. This is more of a You let that ride. That's what I'm saying. This is more of a culture thing as Black man in this America. How do we feel about that? He waited to do that He knew he was gonna do that all day. He's like, when I score on Pat.

I don't think Patrick Beverly seen it. Do you supposed to get a take after that if you Patrick Beverly? Yes. Yes. Yes. Right? Just because.

Just because. Just because. Right? I was just wondering. I know I did it against LeBron, and it's LeBron. Right? And you just did it to me and you of the other culture. Come on. I'm trying to figure out, do I? Pray that man. Pray that man. Pray that man. You said he could come to the backyard boogie.

Like, do I do you like foul? Do you like foul him hard? Am I letting the oxcord go? No. He don't get the oxcord. Look, Austin is asking for malt liquor at the barbecue. Let me get the malt liquor. Let me get the old duels. Let me get the bar. Let me get the old bulls. Let me get the old E back there. You got some old E. That's what Austin come in. He comfortable. This ain't Luca. He comfortable.

This ain't Luca. This ain't. Y'all got some old E back there. He got hit with like, ugh. Comfortable. With your own shit. Comfortable. Pay that man.

He comfortable. Pay that man. He comfortable. Pay that man. Pay that man. That's like he go to Westbrook, rock the baby. Oh, that just hurts so much. Oh, that hurts. Austin Reeves comes to the party. Oh, you got to give him an elbow or something. Like Clifford's April 5th. If he hits Westbrook, he got to

rock the baby. If he gets that and the Lakers win. Russ not having that. Oh, Russ getting attacked. Russ not having that. I'm just saying. You can't hit Russ with the baby. No. You rock the baby on Russ. If he rocked the baby, he might get a statue in front of Staple's.

No way. He ain't rocking the baby. Russ getting attacked if he see Austin Reed. Fuck the baby, bro. I already know. But let's just talk about this Lakers squad. It seems like they're gelling. They're coming together. We got to see D-Lo, LeBron, AD all out there and what this team could really be. Are the Lakers chemistry issues behind them?

I mean, you know, chemistry issues is just issues, right? You clean them up. You know, you play game by game. You know, everything is situational. You know, you can be struggling right now, and then in playoffs, it clicks, right? I think just when we were playing, and it was a year we...

It was our second year. The year I got hurt. Right? We actually came to the Bucs, got smacked. Right? Then we went to Charlotte, got smacked. And then we had went to Charlotte, got smacked. And then we had Charlotte on the back-to-back,

and then, you know, my frustrations, and this was my frustrations, what ended up happening is we had a small, tight team, right? It was like we was only playing 7-8. Everybody was hurt, right? 7-8, we was hot. We was playing well. What ended up happening is all our players started coming back, right? And coaches now trying to figure out how to, you know, put everybody inside of this.

You know, we were from seven to eight to like a 10-man rotation. And I was like, man, we supposed to be getting ready for the fucking playoffs, man. And we still fucking with our lineups. Right? We're 10 games away from playoffs, and we're still fucking with our lineups. And that's what I was saying, right? And, wow. We're 10 games away from playoffs and we're still fucking with our lineups. And that's what I was saying. Right?

Wow. You know what I mean? It was just one of those things like, yo, we supposed to be getting ready for the playoffs. So chemistry right now really means nothing. It's like them last two games, it's everybody oiled up right. Because when you get into that, when you get that book, right? I got a guard, okay, let me see, all right. But you sitting there like, I don't give a shit what nobody do.

If you elite and you trying to be successful in the playoff, you can't sleep that night. Because you reading pages like, he shoot 90% going to the left? He shoot 90 going to the right. What? Where you want me to push this man? Like, you're getting everything. So let me ask you this then. Okay.

You must have never been in the playoffs. No, I haven't. I knew it, right? I knew you could see it in his face. I'm asking the question. That's why I'm like, let me ask you a question then. So when you're talking about team chemistry, right, and you look at the Suns, right, and yesterday we talked a little bit

about A.N. and how his numbers are going to change when the dynamic is so I was looking last night like all right if the Suns are playing get off the ball right get off of it move it drive it KD comes in KD we know he's not necessarily a ball stopper but when he gets off the ball it's with a team like Golden State where everybody can get off and shoot it and get there. So now it's like it gets to KD and it stops. So KD's not just a sub. He's not just one of those guys you put into the situation to keep the ball popping like

any other sub. Does it change the chemistry as they're being able to get the ball off, get the ball off, and then all of a sudden it stops? Does that stop the chemistry as they're being able to get the ball off, get the ball off, and then all of a sudden it stops? Does that stop the chemistry? No, it's different. It's just, you know, it's a different part of the game that everyone has to adjust to. Like, you know, in the playoffs, you know, when you're going into the playoffs,

every round, every game is situational, right? It's not... Regular season is really... We're playing my first year in the playoffs. We played the Bulls three times in regular season. I was averaging 33 against the Bulls. So you already know me.

I'm about to kill them. Kirk, Kyrie, Dujan about to get this work. All night. Struggling. 15. 15, two for 17. It was rough.

It was rough. Everything I was trying to do was walling it up. Scotty Pippen, I think at 33, he made a comment. He said, if you think you're going to do what you did in regular season against them, y'all can't win this series. You're going to have to defer. If you're trying to average 20, 30-something in this series, no, this is what the playoffs is.

They're cutting you out. They're going to make you pass as if you're capable of passing. Now, if you're capable of getting the rest of your team involved, then you guys can win because they are not planned for you to pass. They don't think you're going to pass the ball to your teammates. Right? So what I did is those first two games, I'm looking at it. And I realized, oh, this is all load up.

Even when I hit that, y'all know the picture I got, the game winner? Yep. I was two for 15 at that point in time. Larry Hughes had 30-something. Wow. Man. Larry Hughes had that. I was struggling.

You know, so it's series by series. Like, you know, like everyone going into the playoffs, like you might not have an advantage in this round. So don't sit there and I'm pouting. Your round might be next round. And that's why I don't think, if I'm Lakers, man, you should have gave Dwight Howard better respect. He helped you during he helped you during that you know the Denver series yeah like he

he really stepped up in the Denver series and in the Miami series y'all told the man you're not gonna play much yeah and he's all right cool you know what I mean one like that same thing with equal dollar did inala did in the Golden State game. Oh yeah, yeah, we're going to need you to come off the bench this series. All right, okay, cool. You've been a starter the whole damn year, I'm going to need you to come off the bench this series. Right?

So when a player does do that, because it's going to be needed in some rounds, you never know. It changes. Like, I might have this series right here, I might have 34 in this series. Next series, might be 15. Right? It might be 15, and you got to really understand that. So the chemistry changes.

It changes. That's what we was talking about a little earlier, just circumstantial situations for a good player to understand when he needs to be assertive and when he doesn't. And that playoff basketball is going to be assertive and when he doesn't. And that playoff basketball is going to be the difference maker, right? It's like, all right, like you said, first round, first two games, we cutting that shit off.

Weak side basketball only. Weak side basketball only. So what is your utility guys going to do on the weak side? Have they been prepping for this all season? That's why I look at good coaching. It's like, okay, what are your weak side guys doing when you're talking about the second unit, right? If we shutting this shit off for Gilbert in the first, Steph in the first, it's the second unit guys

that's gonna make the difference. So then when I sub in with the second unit guys, cause that's gonna be coaching too. Let me throw Gil in with the second unit guys, see what they do. Oh, that's going to change everything because the assignments change. We didn't work on Gil playing with the second unit. Now he done fucked the whole shit up. Now we got to be like, well, we didn't work on this big doubling Gil at the top because this big is a drop big. This big is not a switch big. Now Gil knows that.

He sees who's in the game. Oh, check, flat feet. Lunch meat, turn the corner. Now we got the weak side three, Karan over there, Antoine over there. We got threes and I got three over here who the end one. My, my, my. It's elite basketball. That's real.

Justin is the... I mean, game by game, man. That shit changes game by game. Play by play. Quarter by quarter. Right? It might be, you might, you know, we might be switching, right? Our whole game plan. Switch.

We're going to switch on you. And then you sitting here like switch. No switch. No switch switch No switch Seriously gets a land on my rookie year. They had seven different defenses for me I remember just our wharf for one one quarter was our hope for the next one was Joe Johnson the next one It was another switch with with Josh Smith Then they were bringing Jeff Teague and it was like five different Defenses and I had to figure it out as a rookie

And I mean we went seven and lost but I mean just just that whole series was just like man It was just crazy. And that's why I said, you know when you're talking about elite when you go into playoffs like It's really you're in the book because now you know you're because as an offensive player You have to be ten steps steps in front of the defense. So you got to think about the concepts. And this is how it works, right? All right, if I come out to pick and roll, you know, hard show. If I start scoring, what are they going to do?

Okay, they're going to possibly double. So I need to, if I hit three shots, I need to see if they're making a call. And then if that call, if I catch that call and they're like two twists and I come off and they double, now I know I got a signal. So now when I'm going and I see two twists, I'm like, all right, slip it. Yes. Slip. All right, boom.

Talk that shit. You know what I mean? So now in real time, you're reading because now you have pickups. Now you really understand. And that's what I learned in the playoffs. When we didn't make the playoffs, I went to go watch J. Kidd and him. Right? It was J. Kidd went to the playoffs.

We had the same system. And I'm just watching. And I'm just watching Kidd. He's hearing plays and he's watching the coach. Not his coach, their coach. So he wants to see. He called a play drop. And he wants to see what the other coach does. And then he'll be like, alright, it'll be twist.

So when he throws it down there, he gets to watch and see what's going to happen. Yeah. Right? And you just, that's where, that's the... Let me add, before you go, before you go. Let me add, because the defensive side of that, I was able to be a part of the Miami Heat. I was like a media correspondent during the Heat championship in 06, right? So I was able to go to their practice for their prep.

And the defensive side of everything that you said with how the point guard goes offensively, like, hmm, okay, so when I come off here, I got to deal with this. So the defensive side of that is like, look, we are guarding Gilbert this way, this way, and this way, and the nail guy is making him pass to that guy. We're going half rotation back. We're making this middle guy take this shot, no corner shot, because this guy is not a driver. Run him off the three-point line. So we're sticking to the nail. We're forcing Gilbert to pass off.

He ain't no going to the hole on no Euro step because we know he loves that. He gets the foul there. Stop the ball. Make him swing, swing. Right? So defensively now, it's all rotations. It's all rotation. But think about this.

What teams haven't been able to practice rotations if they were bad the whole season on rotations? Now you don't got the time to really prep for a guy like Gilbert who's gonna force you into full rotations and you ain't practice it with the first or second unit now. Now you had a disadvantage in the playoffs because you know we ain't got the experience. But yeah but that's why that's why Doc looks so bad in the playoffs. Because he never adjusts. He never adjusts. Like, if he was successful two games in this system, and then they adjusted and figured out,

and they won the next two games, he doesn't adjust. He doesn't know how to make adjustments. He doesn't adjust. He just sticks with the same flow. It worked. Here's a flaw I've seen. He's playing against Houston Rockets, right? He's playing against Houston Rockets, right? He's playing against Houston Rockets, and they were doing the, like,

HACA, they were doing HACA Dwight and HACA DeAndre Jordan, right? So they're up 3-1. Clippers up 3-1. And was it Rudy? No, it wasn't Rudy T over there. No. Who was over? What coach?

Was it the Lakers? No, with Houston. Adelman. Was it Adelman? Adelman. Then? Yeah. So he said, he was like, publicly, we're just going to foul Jordan.

We're going to put Jordan on the line. Doc responded, well, then we're just going to hack Dwight. Put Dwight on the line. That's your response? And I'm sitting here like, I understand the concept, but that's stupid as shit. The reason is they're fouling you knowing that you're going to foul them, but they have James Harden. They have a one-on-one player

who's going to take advantage of that fucking penalty. That bonus. You don't. Yes. So what ends up happening is soon as James Harden, so James Harden's not going to do anything but pass it to Dwight.

Y'all going to foul him. Getting a penalty. Seven minutes into the penalty. Now I get to go. Now he's sitting, and that's where all this came from. The penalty started so early, he's like, oh shit, I'm just about to play one-on-one basketball. They win the game. Starts off the game again.

Doc is doing it again. I was like, wait, you just did not learn that he's doing it on purpose so you can get James Harden in the penalty. James Harden doesn't take these hits. And that's exactly all four games. And they wonder why they lost. Because they have a one-on-one player who's going to take advantage of all the free throws.

So he's baiting you to foul. And then as soon as they get in the penalty, take them out. Now guard James Harden in the penalty now. James Harden took advantage of that shit. Now let's bring in Underdog Fantasy's Coley Mick, co-host of the True Wither Show and Cut To It with Steve Smith. Coley, welcome to the arena. Just so you know, you are the first to break the color barrier on this show.

You did it. I heard James' disappointment. You did it. I heard James' disappointment when he said, I bet it's a white man. But I told him you had swag, though. I told him you had swag. I appreciate that. It's always good to have a cosign, especially when you're coming in and setting the tone for the entire nationality. So, Carl, you're a big Celtics fan.

So we got to talk about that Jalen Brown interview he did in the ringer. Do you see Jalen Brown in a Celtics uniform next season? Yeah, I do. I mean,

I think it helps if he makes all NBA because then we can pay him astronomically more than anyone else. And he's his own agent. So, he's out there negotiating

he's he's been there since when he was a rookie after his rookie season ended 13 out of 15 of his teammates were immediately traded that summer so it's not like tatum where it's he's he's had smooth sailing pretty much his whole career he's seen some shit so i i don't think he's opposed to leaving but i think he's like, yeah, you got to pay me. He's negotiating. So y'all going to put a Lamar Jackson on him and hit the other owners around the league and be like, nah, don't let him do it.

Stop it. No, no collusion over here. No one's going to, no one would help us. No one likes us. You're right. Yeah, no one's going to help him. Oh, he's leaving? Thank you.

I got a question. You're right. Yeah, no one's going to help him. Oh, he's leaving? Thank you. I got a question. Okay, as a Celtics fan, do you think you actually had a team that was good enough to actually win a championship with the talent that you had versus everyone else? This year or? Just for the last four years. You know, when people were giving you guys number one in the East and all this, did you really feel that you guys were that good? I personally didn't feel that way until February last year.

So for the last four years, since last February, yes. Since last... Okay, so last year's team, you really thought this was a good team? Yeah, I mean, from the bubble, every team that went deep into the bubble the year after kind of fell to shit. And then we led the league in COVID for two years. No one had more people on the COVID list.

We are ground zero for COVID. And so we just couldn't play. Like our starting five was never on the court together, really until last January. And that's when Rob started getting real starters minutes. And the other four were just on the court. So I think once they actually started playing together, yeah, it clicked. So it's looking like the Celtics will probably get that two seed.

So just looking at this playing lineup, right now it's Heath Hawks and the 7-8. Which of the playing teams would you want to see? I mean, I'm genuinely not too concerned about the playing. Like, the Heat have Bam, and Jimmy hits a different level when he gets to the playoffs. Every year he truly doesn't really care about the regular season. So it would be more annoying to play them, and I respect Spoh. The rest of them, I'm really not too concerned.

Y'all not worried about Trey coming through there? With Quinn Snyder? No. Not in the slightest? I got a question. The one year the Hawks had success in the playoffs was that post-bubble season, which had, like, the Knicks getting playoff wins.

Like, that wasn't a real season either. I got a question, yo. So if you take Jalen Brown off this team, do the Celtics make a playoff run next year? I mean, they just, like, am I filling in for him? It's like, no one steps into those minutes? I mean,

just think about, like, you know, everyone's talking about Jalen not coming back, right? So who's going to fill that void if he goes into free agency?

Right? Goes into free agency, doesn't re-up. They don't trade, you know, make a dynamic trade for him. What really happens with the Celtics

without a Jalen Brown? It'd be tough. I mean, Tatum would have to hit that recruiting trail like heavily. I don't know if it's like his best friend, Brad Beal or what, but it's, it's no small shoes to fill because Jalen, it's not just that he's one of the most dynamic wings in the league. It's like when the team hits a lull, when they're just chucking threes and they're not connecting, he's the one who gets the ball. And it's like, I'm going to the rim.

I'm going to finish. I'm going to get fouled. We're going to play basketball. We're not just going to heave. So it's, it's, it's more than just replacing his 25 and his defense and all that. Like you're replacing a lot.

So, yeah, I don't know that it's as simple as just swapping them out for someone else. I, I would be devastated to it's as simple as just swapping them out for someone else. I would be devastated to lose truly devastated if he went somewhere else. So then the real question is, is Jalen Brown suited better as a complimentary player to Tatum or can he man his own ship? I don't think he can't man his own ship,

but I think both of them together, I mean, these two since AAU days have been very close. I don't think they really care about that. When he says, like, I want to be valued, I want to be respected, I don't think he's saying, like, oh, I need to go be the one on the Pacers. You know what I mean?

I think he's like, every last shot doesn't have to go to Tatum. Every overtime, I can touch the ball ball too. I can also score. So I think he's more saying like, hey, draw some plays up for me too. Like every big shot, not every big shot, but most of the big shots, especially in the regular season, the last couple of years, it's Jalen sending it to overtime. It's Jalen driving. It's Jalen hitting a crazy three where he's falling out of bounds. Like that's kind of what he does. I think he's saying, like, hey, I think it's harder to guard us if it's not just, oh, we're going to run this handoff to Tatum

from the top of the key that we run every late game. Last question I got for you. When you look at the Celtics fans, and, you know, I get you being critical of them. Yeah. It's an interesting fan base. Do Celtics fans get a bad rap? No.

I don't think they do. I'm from Boston. It kills me. Because Boston as a city is beautiful. It's super diverse. As a fan base, it does not come off that way. In the slightest. I think it's well-earned and I'd love for it to be better. It's not something I'm proud of. But yeah, it's pretty well-earned. There'd love for it to be better. It's not something I'm like proud of, but yeah, it's, it's pretty well-earned. It's there's a reason you asked me that if I came out here as a Rockets fan, that wouldn't even be a question. If you was a Rockets fan, we have some, some other

questions. We won't be talking about basketball. Who was the fan? He used to sit behind the player's bench and by the third quarter, he was, like, toasted, and he always had, like, to carry him out. Like, you don't know? I don't know. I don't know that one. I forgot. I don't remember.

He used to sit behind there, and he used to just chug two beers, and by the third quarter, he's, like, done. That's most of the city. It's an alcoholic-ass city. That's a lot of people you just described. Okay, okay, okay. I got one. If you guys don't win it this year,

right? Well, you guys won't. You guys aren't beating the Bucs. Based on what? Based on talent. And the Bucs being healthy. The Celtics are healthy. You guys got lucky last year.

The Bucs have beat the Celtics in the playoffs once in recent history, under the Giannis era. Once. And that was the year Kyrie was like, get me out of here. And he was just chucking 25% for us. Other than that, you guys haven't beat us. Well, you guys got lucky because Chris Middleton got hurt last year. We had three starters, though, in multiple games last year.

All right, so my question is- Yeah! Yeah! Okay. That was smart! That was smart! Oh, shit! I love it.

I love it. So what happens, I think I asked on this broadcast, if you guys don't get back together, I love it. So what happens? I think I asked on this broadcast. If you guys don't get back to the finals this year or win it, like, what's the next changes? Because it's been, you guys have been at this run for a minute now, you know, with Tatum and Jalen.

So, you know, like, what's the next steps if you guys don't get over the hump this year? Yeah, I mean, I do want to pay some respect to the Bucs because I do think the fight, it's kind of like when Peyton and Brady were running the AFC, like when they met in the AFC championship, that was the Super Bowl. Who's going to get to go roll the Bears by 40 points next week? That's what I see with Celtics Bucs this year. I don't think anyone from the West. Oh, spicy. Okay, I love it. That's what I see with Celtics Bucks this year. I don't think anyone from the West is being- Ooh, spicy.

Okay, I love it. That's spicy, I love it. It's like if we lose to the Sixers, blow it up. If we lose to the Bucks in seven, I tip my cap. Giannis is the best player in that series comfortably. I have no idea, he's the best player in the world. So if we lose to Giannis, yeah, I would hurt. It's not like something I want to happen, but

I don't think you have to have any crazy overreactions. And I do think, like I view Brogdon, and I love Malcolm Brogdon, I view him as a one-year rental. He's been crazy healthy, healthier than he's been the past couple of years. I think you can dangle that contract, cobble it together with something else and a ton of picks,

and that's the move you make. Honestly, win or lose a championship. I think you do that. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. GM.

You the GM. Let's go. Please, please. If you have strings that you can pull, get me in that. Well, we appreciate you pulling up to the show and breaking that color barrier. Whoa. Whoa. Thank you, baby. The Underdog Fantasy family. Okay. You got some more smoke.

Gave him a little poop. No, no, no. It just does that. That was a little poop. That was a poop. It just does that. All right. So now let's get into our last segment of the day.

Mostly fans. Mm-hmm. All right. So White Man Can't Jump turned 31 this week. St fans. Mm-hmm. All right, so, white man can't jump. Turned 31 this week. Stood the test of time. Has one of the most legendary scenes in cinema history. I'm gonna go to my car, get my other gun, shoot everybody's ass.

Mm-hmm. By the man who birthed me. Shout him out. So, I gotta ask y'all. Gil, we'll start with you first, or you wanna go last? I'll go last. Gil, go last. But, Brandon, I'll start with you. What's the best basketball movie of all time? Best basketball movie of all time would have to be... I'm going with Above the Rim. Okay. Okay. Rashad, what you got? You stole my shit, man. You stole my shit, man. So since he picked that, I'm not going to double up on it.

I'm going to go He Got Game. Okay. I'm going to go He Got Jesus Sosworth. And just so we can name some other movies so people could appreciate it, we got movies like Hoosiers, Brandy, you said Above the Rim, He Got Game, Blue Chips, Sunset Park, Hustle, which just came out recently, Three Ninjas, technically a basketball movie, great basketball. Three Ninjas.

Glory Road. And one that doesn't get enough love, I'm personally a slam dunk Ernest fan, but I'm a weirdo and I like weird shit. And also Thunderstruck KD, amazing acting performance. You ain't seen no movies for me, huh? But I'm just telling you, New Jack City. G Money could've went to St. John's, decided to sell crack with his brother. That's what fucked his jump rope.

So you're saying no movies for you? That's what you're saying, no movies for you. But no, Gil, I'm just saying. I'm just giving the list. Now I'm asking you, Gil, what's your favorite basketball movie? There's only one basketball movie that I care for. I was there when they was filming it.

What? Calvin Cambridge, baby. Like Mike. Like Mike, goddammit! Like Mike, sirs! I was at the dunk contest when they was shooting that scene. Wow. Little Bow Wow, little, it was little Bow Wow at the time. Before he Bow Wow'd.

Yeah, he was there, like the dunk contest, Jason Richardson, that was my first year there. And you got a little actor coming in, Bow Wow, you know, growing up on Bow Wow. So I was all, get it up! So how good can Like Mike be if it didn't have MJ's blessing? First of all, it was Like Mike. We didn't want to be Mike. It's Like Mike. We didn't want to be Mike. 2002, Calvin Cambridge.

Take no L's. Yo, I was Calvin, Cambridge. Calvin. Take no L's. Yo, I was in a movie. I had a basketball scene. It was called Love, L-U-V, with Common and Megan Good. That was the shit, bro. Yeah, yeah, I'm in a movie called Love, and they were betting on me to get to the league,

so I was out there dunking on these high school kids in Baltimore. But, yeah. Tyreek, that's young Tyreek. Young Tyreek was in that movie. Yeah, yeah, uh-huh, yeah. Young Tyreek. You know, Bow Wow's only five years younger than you well, he looked like he was five At that time and lastly I'll leave y'all with y'all both picked above the rim So I know his name was not so so I don't expect him to be rational

But is it worth sacrificing your life to tap on a janky backboard? You've seen the glass right there. First of all, if you grew up before, I don't know if they still do it now, but back then, tapping was the shit. He didn't even get that high. Tapping was, that's what we did. It was initiation. Yeah. But that was like seventh eighth grade

No back there sound like high school My son right now, that's the thing touching back boy levels that was initiation You was the man of the crew if you got the highest on the backboard. I respect the tap game. Listen, listen. A tap in game was like a dunk. You get tapped, like right? Yeah. You get tapped up.

Ah, two hands. Two hands. Two hands. This and two fingers. Ah. Gotcha. That was bragging rights, bro. People fought over getting tapped off.

You joke on us, bro. No, you can't even tap glass, man. You can't even tap. You got tapped off, dog. So, yeah, that death was, it it just it put the tap community like I wonder Like what the trajectory was of tapping after that point. Did it lose value? We all like damn I might tap this back Yeah, it did because at some point we had to look at the film and say why did he get a running start?

Why? Why did he get a running start? Why did he? Why are you running a tap? Why are you running a tap? That don't even really count. It was unrealistic, too, though. Or it's just some New York shit. Most courts in L.A. is not on roofs. They got courts on roofs out there, but it's like chain link fence. I don't know what court that was.

I've never seen a court on a roof, so tapping was the shit still. There we go. He didn't even get above the rim. Bro, but that was an aggressive- The movie's called Above the Rim. That was an aggressive tap, though. But he didn't even get above the rim on the tap. It was so aggressive.

This movie's so hard. I'm going home after this today. He can't sleep at night. I mean, even though- Even though the championship game, he only made, Shepard only made six actual shots. Three or six. They ran the same play?

They ran the same play. What if I were a brother? I'd pass to him. No, no, no. Not what I'm saying. Run the same play. It's the same actual shot the whole scene. Just from different angles. like coming off shot it's

just like bro it's the same defense doing the same thing we only got him for five minutes we only got him for five minutes that's what it looks like that's what it literally looked like it looked like they should have did that too like, Jesus Shuttlesworth. Yeah. Well, that's the same thing a white man can't jump. Wesley couldn't really hoop. So if you watch- His highlights is crazy. But it's a lot of below the leg, you don't really see.

He might throw up the layup, but they don't show what happens after that. They cut tight to the hoop. So that is what is. Little nugget for you guys. Yeah, 30 and a half. Yeah, 30 and a half. You play summer league. Tommy Shepard.

No, I'm not playing summer league. It's cold. What the fuck? All right. Yeah, 30 and a half. You play Summer Lee. Tom Shepard. I'm not saying Summer Lee. It's cold. All right, well, we appreciate y'all pulling up our last show of the week. Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoop, whoop.

Whoop, whoop. We'll be back next week. Thank y'all for tuning in.