Gil's Arena - Kevin Durant & The Phoenix Suns Need To START OVER!!

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Kevin Durant & The Phoenix Suns NEED To Start Over according to Gilbert Arenas as Gil & The Gil's Arena Crew react to The Phoenix Suns firing head coach Mike Budenholzer after their disaster of a seas...on and discuss where Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, Bradley Beal and the rest of the Suns go from here after their superteam crumpled right beneath their feet. Next, they preview the opening night of the NBA Play-In where the Orlando Magic take on the Atlanta Hawks with a trip to the postseason on the line and The Golden State Warriors play the Memphis Grizzlies in an explosive matchup. They debate who they expect to win these high stakes game and get real on the grenade celebration from Ja Morant that is sweeping the nation and shows just how much influence the Grizzlies superstar has. Then, they react to the NBA Jersey sales numbers from this season where Luka Doncic took the top spot following his trade to the Los Angeles Lakers, sparking a debate on if this proves that the Slovenian superstar is the next face of the NBA or if someone lurking lower on the list like Jayson Tatum & Victor Wembanyama will unseat Luka for the top spot. Finally, with the NBA Playoffs right around the corner Gil's Arena examines the OKC Thunder as the top team in the West and debate if Shai Gilgeous Alexander and his Thunder squad have shown enough to be considered a true threat to make the NBA Finals. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Swaggy P, Brandon Jennings & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Find pouch packed comfort and everyday styles at https://MeUndies.com Support the show by using code ARENA at checkout for 20% off your first order. USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Vote Here For The Webby Awards - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/creators/individual-creator/sports Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 – 2 Min Countdown 0:01:57 – Show Start 0:11:56 – The Suns Need To Start Over!!! 0:37:34 – Bradley Beal IS NOT Jrue Holiday 0:50:18 – Devin Booker Is The Heart & Soul Of The Suns 0:58:13 – Club 520 Calls Out The Arena 0:59:17 – The NBA's Best Selling Jerseys Unveil The Next Face of The NBA 1:14:07 – Ja Morant's Grenade Celebration Blows Up The Arena 1:45:30 – Can The Thunder Reach The Finals? 2:05:25 – Seattle Storm Draft Lady Wemby 2:18:31 – Play In Game Predictions 2:22:08 – MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:58 Playing starts tonight. Worries or trouble, Mr. Beer, that good? Good mind. I think they're going to be all right. You can say that confidently. Got my staff stuff on. They might do 30-30. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:01:10 We got a lot to discuss on the show today. Appreciate everybody for pulling up. Gil, I see you repping. Zion throwback. Future Laker. Yep. That's when he wasn't hurt, huh? He played every high school game.
Starting point is 00:01:22 That's when he was fearing everything. Everybody was scared. I was too. Watching. White kids just running in South Carolina. One of them had heart though. I've seen the video. Oh yeah. I remember that. He tried. He tried. But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. Whoop whoop. As always we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. On this side of the couch, we got NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P, Nick Young. Sitting next to him representing Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University, Mr. B, Brandon Jennings.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Ho, ho, ho, ho! And on this side of the couch, we got the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Tanya Martin, back in the arena. And with the fluffy boots on, WNBA champion of the world, Seattle Storm Guard, Lexi Brown. Lexi, you got to get back to work soon, so. I know.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Those cannons. We're going to cherish these moments. Oh. Oh. Cannon does not look like this. We have not Those cannons. We're going to cherish these moments. Oh. Cannon does not look like We have not seen cannon. We ain't seen him since. Cannon does not look like this.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Since she got the boost, we ain't seen cannon. We have not seen cannon in a minute. No, that's funny. He's in Florida. But he'll be in Seattle. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:38 He'll be coming to Seattle. All right, okay. I'll send y'all pictures to make sure he's alive and well. We need proof of what? Seattle just drafted him. Seattle just drafted a... Baby Wendy.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yeah. Six. Yeah. Whoo! She dropped it with ease. We gonna talk about it. We gonna talk about it. Okay, you all here?
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yeah. Glowing? You gonna throw the lob? My first lob. Yes. Ever. Just throw it up there. Nah, really, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Hey, hey. By the rim up there. In my life. Nah, really. That's crazy. By the rim, man. You get today. Just on a fast break. I worked out one time with JaVale, and they had me throwing logs in the workout. Okay. Didn't start off very well, but we got there. You got there. They're just like, throw it up.
Starting point is 00:03:22 He'll get it. There's some NBA people that can't do it. Yeah. So don't feel bad. So I was like, okay. I just threw it up. There's get it. Some NBA people that can't do it. Yeah Some point guards in NBA that can't do it so don't feel bad Yes, you're shooters. Yeah, I do what you should get it off the rim You gonna float it tell us like I'm float it, but it's going to be a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Right? Because she can go get that bitch with two hands, so. Mm-hmm. Right. Hell yeah. Yo, she think, listen, if she dunk that motherfucker off the lot, yo, world going to, listen, going to break the web. Has there ever been a lot?
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah, I don't think there's ever been a lot. No. Not in W. No. Hell no. High school. Just fast break. Damn. And then pick and roll into one. But never a lob.
Starting point is 00:04:07 The girl who's going to sit on that motherfucker like, shat. I'm like, yo. That shit look crazy, bro. The girl who's going to lob in high school, does she ever make it to the W? Fran? Is that her? The one with the goggles?
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yeah. I don't even know where she is right now. She was at Stanford, I think. I don't know if she's... Might be in Africa. Go tell her to watch some of my highlights and snap the glass. So for all the fans out there, we still have two viewing options for our traditional version, mobile vertical version.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. The Suns fired Mike Budenholzer after their disappointing season and are now looking for their fourth head coach in four seasons. Where do the Suns go from here? I know where Coach Bud going. Straight to the bank.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Give me my money, Milwaukee. Give me my money, Phoenix. Not half, not some, but all my chips. She wasn't a two-seater? Hmm? She wasn't a dual action job? You're getting checks. I'm talking about the other guy still got the guy so James Jones is gonna keep fire head coaches Ain't nobody gonna address this
Starting point is 00:05:13 Well, we're gonna dress it just gonna keep mother revolving door in the light shit. It ain't me It's them we go address it today Luca Don chick is the first international player to leave the league in Jersey sales The Slovenian Jesus have a legitimate case to be the neck player to lead the league in jersey sales. Does Slovenian Jesus have a legitimate case to be the next face of the league? That's his name. Damn. That's his name. Slovenian Jesus is
Starting point is 00:05:33 crazy. We weren't going to say Slezas, but it just don't flow right, so Slovenian Jesus. And the Thunder are entering the postseason with the best record in the league and likely MVP, but how much faith should we have in OKC to make a deep playoff run? People are not really rocking with the Thunder right now. I don't know why. Franchise record and wins,
Starting point is 00:05:49 likely MVP. So a lot they got going for them. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead, download the app, use promo code GILD, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick-em. And we have a new Underdog special to announce as we enter postseason action.
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Starting point is 00:06:51 Shout out Underdog. Always trying to give love to the people. Break the bank. Gil, you've been doing your thing. Yeah, I just got an email. 80 who? Email. Oh, I was about to say.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I thought you said 80 mil. I'm part of the Gladiator program. I just got platinum tier Yeah, you've printed good breath next is diamond tier And I've been doing a bunch of drafts you have you have during the show. There's some dummies in there boy I can say that for sure Whoo? It says Dame is out. They picking them. All right, boy
Starting point is 00:07:25 This tonight's game fool It says Dame is out. They picking him. All right, boy. It's tonight's game, fool. So yesterday we did Gil's partner pack for the playing game. Today Brandon has to pick something in his partner pack on the underdog app. Let's take a look at Mr. B's picks for the playing. You got Trae Young higher, 26.5 points. You had him at like 20.5 yesterday. You'd be getting the special underdog plugs. Paolo P. Carroll higher
Starting point is 00:07:51 .5 double-double. Got to get a double-double in the game tonight. Franz Wagner, waggy-waggy. Higher 6.5 rebounds. Steph Curry higher 28.5 points. Grizzlies coming to the Bay playing game. We'll see if Ja's still fine in the West. But you got Ja hired 6.5 assists tonight. It's going to be intriguing. Yeah, I just think because it's win or go home, so everybody's hired.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Everybody's going to get buckets tonight. How's the rest of the couch feel about Mr. B's picks? Ja's 7 assists. I don't know about the assists. Yeah. He'd be passing. Has he ever about the assists. Yeah. He'd be passing. Has he ever had seven assists? Yeah, he averaged.
Starting point is 00:08:30 That's what he do. He'd be throwing down to Eden. He'd just be... He'd do like... He'd at least get four for him, right? It's that Wagner maybe. That Wagner? With the rebound?
Starting point is 00:08:42 Wagner. Inward. You know, him and that rebound and it's his hit and miss with him on that one. I'm trying to get bucked. Yeah, they don't need everything out of them. So mr. B some interesting news report. We asked the chat if they're riding or fading with your picks tonight 50 actually just jump
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Starting point is 00:09:35 let your voice be heard. Help Gil go ahead and get a, you don't got a Webby, you got a Telly. You got other awards, but you need your first Webby. My first Webby. What? Hold on. My first Webby. What? Hold on. He drafted right now.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Hold on. No, I'm just posting this about Nick cheating on his girlfriend and getting caught. Yeah, that's unnecessary. Unnecessary way to start the show. Except a collab. And you tried to do a collab with him. A collab is hilarious.
Starting point is 00:10:06 The last thing I heard was cheating. What is that? Cheating. That's how you starting today? No, I'm just saying, can you accept a collab? No, I don't want to be a part of this shit. But I'm always going to be. Because you already got in trouble, brother.
Starting point is 00:10:19 You caught your mid-stroke. Accept it. What is he talking about? Paloma? Oh, it's that one. I posted it. Do not go to Gil's Instagram until after the show, please. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:35 All right, well, let's get into some basketball talk. Baby, please, baby, please don't leave me. Please. He got it. Please, baby. Please don't leave me. Please, baby, please. Well, speaking of somebody leaving,
Starting point is 00:10:46 Suns decided to fire head coach Mike Boothoser after just one season at the helm, which means that all three head coaches named Mike entering the season were dropped by their teams. Coach Bud joining Mike Brown and Mike Malone. That's a strange coincidence. A little tidbit. Appreciate your being here.
Starting point is 00:11:02 Mike Brown. Mike Malone. Well, his name's Michael. You call that man Mike, he might lose it. Is all of them Michael? He lost his job, so his name's Mike. He's smoking that Mike Malone pack still. Damn.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Every single day. Who's your daddy? So three? Is there only three? No. No, but those are just the Mikes. Man. Taylor.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Taylor. In a Taylor. It's cool to be a mics. Taylor. And a Taylor. It's cool to be a coach right now. And a Taylor. So the Suns had the highest payroll in NBA history, but Coach Bud Squad failed to meet expectations, finishing 10 games under.500 on the season, becoming the only team in the league that missed the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:11:38 play-in, and the draft lottery. Trash. So the Suns released the following statement on Budenholzer's firing, saying, quote, Competing at the highest level remains our goal, and we failed to meet expectations this season. Our fans deserve better. Change is needed. Wow.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Statement was short but accurate. Coach Bud will still be getting the bag, though. So according to Evan Sidria Forbes, if Mike Budenholzer decides not to pursue any coaching opportunities, he will be paid $10 million a year from the Suns until 2029. So $40 million still remains on his contract. He signed a five-year
Starting point is 00:12:13 $50 million deal. Got through year one. So Budenholzer was also paid $8 million this past season by the Bucs from his contract extension following the NBA championship. That's 18 mil. That's the Gilbert Arenas John Wall package right there, boy. That's the amnesty, right?
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah, that's the amnesty. Boy, that was life. A few things better than getting paid not to work. What happened to that? I don't know. They should bring it back. So this is the third straight season the Suns have fired their head coach. Boothoser's the second straight coach to be booted after one season.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Monte Williams was fired two years ago, and Frank Vogel was fired after last season. We saw the Suns reach the playoffs but get swept in the first round by Ant-Man and the Wolves. So what does the Boothoser firing say about the Suns' organization right now? James Jones out there pushing motherfuckers out in traffic. That's what that
Starting point is 00:13:09 says. Yeah, boy. Two in a row after one season is crazy. He fired three straight head coach. Boy, are you serious? He still got his job. He can hire me and fire me.
Starting point is 00:13:26 So James Jones Are you serious? He still got his job. You can hire me and fire me. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So James Jones' contract expired at the end of June. No word now. Oh, so he out of there. They ain't got to fire him, so trust me. He out as well. Out of me. I was wondering what that said.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I was going to ask. I'm glad you said, because I damn sure was going to ask what his contract situation was. So his go expired, so they definitely in the search of both. What's the positive things he did? Who? James Jones. Finals? He was a former player that was in a position.
Starting point is 00:13:53 That was positive. Got KD. Who? He went to the finals with CP. That's fucking easy. No. Yes. Getting Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Kevin Durant, where you want to go play? Phoenix. Motherfucker, like, that ain't hard. Low-hanging fruit. Phoenix was the number one option? That's where he went. I'm just saying. Shit, it's fucked.
Starting point is 00:14:20 He could have went anywhere he wanted to go. Trust me, anybody would have opened the motherfucking door for him. There was 30 teams out there, motherfucker, with an open door. That's what I'm saying. With an open door. That's what I'm saying. It's easy. He didn't do anything to recruit him.
Starting point is 00:14:33 That's like being LeBron's agent. You know how to fucking do shit? But the fact that he took... You don't. This motherfucker, he plays... You're firing him for taking the chance on KD. He could come on Gills Arena frequently. Huh? You're firing him for taking the chance. You come on Gil's Arena frequently.
Starting point is 00:14:47 You're firing him for taking the chance on KD? No, you're firing him for giving up your future for Bradley Beal. There we go. Devin Booker needs to get out of there. No, they don't have no picks. They don't make the play, and there ain't nothing positive. They're not building nothing for Book. They're ruining his career. Was Be Bill a James Jones thing or a Matt
Starting point is 00:15:06 Ishby a thing, I think? James Jones, general manager. I don't know if James Jones been there. They need to be mad at him like they mad at Niko. You know what I'm saying? James Jones, general manager. Yeah, but- They just fired- It's Bill, KD, and Book.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Okay. You don't think that's going to lead to this? It did. Because you go to the finals with the shit you had. You get swept last year. I mean, same thing in Brooklyn. We didn't think that was going to lead to this. It did. Because you go to the finals with the shit you had. You get swept last year. I mean, same thing in Brooklyn. We didn't think that was going. You get swept last year.
Starting point is 00:15:30 But that happened. They got hurt, and they could have beat the Bucs if they was healthy. But they wouldn't. I know that. But this team being together, like, ain't no serious. They've been in and out. They've been in and out, but still. They've been injured.
Starting point is 00:15:42 What serious injuries they had. Still, they had enough. Everything. Bradley Bill. Yeah, Bradley. I'm going to say, yeah still. What serious injuries they had. Still, they had enough. I mean, Bradley Bill. Yeah, Bradley Bill. I'm going to say, yeah. They should have. Just mentally. Still, though, either two of them playing at any given time,
Starting point is 00:15:52 you should have enough. So that's what I'm saying. To be in 500. To be 10 games under 500? Are you shitting me? But how is that his fault? Who? You just said it.
Starting point is 00:16:04 He picked them up. Either of them two, you should be in the bell. He picked them. He paid them all that money. Katie played 62 games this season. Booker played 75 games this season. Can we get them no help? 75, so they played a lot of games together.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah. It was staggered. Bradley Beal and Kevin Durant. Bradley Beal and Devin Booker. Kevin Durant and Bradley. It was a combination of both of them. All three of them. Bill played 53 games.
Starting point is 00:16:25 So that's enough. And then you're trying to bring in the right coach. Like, oh, this motherfucker didn't work. Let me try somebody else. This motherfucker didn't work. At some point, like, what the fuck? But two former NBA champion head coaches and Frank Vogel. You're trying.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Like, okay, this shit didn't work out. So when is James Jones going to get responsibility for picking them three coaches? That he's picking the wrong coach then? But they're great coaches, though. Not for that team? How do we know that? You look at the rosters they've coached before. You look at the players they've coached before.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Has he coached? No. Was he the Lakers coach? Frank Vogel was the coach when the Lakers won the hardest championship in NBA history in the world. Mike, the less experienced coach. You need somebody with championship anybody in the world. A less experienced coach? You need somebody with a system. But did you see what Mike said? Kenny Axel would have been perfect.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Kenny Axel would have been perfect. They can like kind of run the show. They need to go get somebody from Golden State. They need like a manager. Mike wanted Braddick Bill to play like Drew Holiday. Is that true? We're going to talk about that in a second. Is that a real quote? That is. That was a real thing like Drew Holiday. We're going to talk about that in a second. Is that a real quote?
Starting point is 00:17:25 That is what's being reported. So we will address that in a second. But let's just talk about Coach Buck getting the boot first. Won a championship with the Bucs. Like we said, three coaches, three seasons now. They're going to have their fourth and fourth seasons. Previous two coaches both won NBA championships. And Frank Vogel, also known as Dirty Frank here in the arena.
Starting point is 00:17:42 Mike Budenhoser. They're playing in his face. You said the man who hired him is one of them to have a conversation. Because the owner can't fire himself. So, it's... How much longer is Devin Booker under contract for? Book is...
Starting point is 00:18:00 They're just wasting his time at this point. He got to, you know... He's falling into that damn little thing in Portland Wasting these do under contract through the 2028 so he's got three years left on it get out of there You're like cuz they're not doing anything. No player option. All just three straight more season. They're not helping You think yes He's a lifer in Phoenix. They're messing with, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:27 He's a lifer. So Bill has one more year on his deal and a player option for the 26-27 season. Changing coaches, changing teammates, that's hard. Would likely exercise that, I would imagine, at this point. How old is Book, 27? Yeah, let me double check for you. Shouldn't be hard for you to find players to put around. Kevin Durant. 28.
Starting point is 00:18:43 So D-Book 28, he's 29 in October. Alright, bro. Alright, it shouldn't be hard to find players. We'll figure it out. I hope they do for his sake. If he got close and then it's just been a shit show ever since. A good situation is the Suns.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah. People gonna come there. They're not going nowhere. He ain't going nowhere. He's 28 years old. He like it there too. They don't know he ain't letting go. So since losing to the Bucks in the finals, the next season they lost in the second round. Monte Williams coach of the year that year. Damn.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Season after that they lost in the second round to the Nuggets 4-2. That was the mistake right there. Last season obviously they got swept by the Timberwolves. That summer. That second-round summer when Aiton gave up and he scared a Jokic and then didn't play that last game and they got rid of him. That was...
Starting point is 00:19:38 That was the move that kind of, like, fucked him over a little bit. Yeah. You know, you needed that defense, that inside offense, and I think he's switching for Nurkic. Yeah, you can go have a conversation with him, man. Like, yeah, I agree with you.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Yeah, that was good. Yeah, he just... Sorry, James, I don't mean to put you on the grill, brother, but you ain't listen, dog. It seems like he may have put himself on it. But still, you only listen. Situation is what it is, man. He's just seasoning. Yeah. Food at this point. It's already on the grill. Like But still, the situation is what it is, man. He's just seasoning the food at this point.
Starting point is 00:20:06 It's already on his list. Like I said, his contract is up. I cannot see them extending him. I think, you know... If they do, I'll be surprised. He needs to just do one good deed before he leaves. And I think he owes LeBron James, some of those players over there,
Starting point is 00:20:25 and they should just make a trade before you're out. He can't make no move? He can't do that. I mean, a contract expires in June. Free agency starts, I believe, June 30th. So he may be unemployed by then. He may have like a good two hours to make some money for you. They'll have a new gym by the start of free agency.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Damn. For Independence Day. So we asked the chat, who deserves the blame? He can't cut nobody right now? No. Nigga go home. Get Rob on the phone. Let's see what we can do.
Starting point is 00:20:55 So we asked the chat, who deserves the blame for the Suns collapse? I know, just for next year. 47% of the chat believes that the Suns' big three, KD, Booker, Bill, deserves the most blame. 24% of the chat believes that the Suns' big three, KD, Booker, Bill, deserves the most blame. Damn. 24% says James Jones. 22% says Suns owner Matt Ishbia. Only 7% coach Bud.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So, Coach Bud, the chat rolling. You got 18 million. Oh, they mad at the big three. Yeah, because they play basketball. They're supposed to go out there and figure it out. They're the ones doing it. Yeah. Right? You shouldn't be 10 games under 500.
Starting point is 00:21:21 10 under 500 is crazy. I don't give a fuck who coaching you. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. I dig it, Nick. No 10 under 500. I don't give a fuck who coaching you. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. I dig it, Nick. No, I'm saying I don't give a fuck who coaching you. But the fact that it's him and if they ran more of the way Golden State has been playing, just the ball moving, not the – but just the way the ball has been moving
Starting point is 00:21:40 and them averaging 29 assists when they was winning and you got to average 25, six assists each night in order to be successful in this league. The ball sticks with them. So yeah, the ball is not moving. Go, why you think Cleveland has been successful this year? Go watch how they play. They got two dynamic scores, but that ball is moving man. That ball ain't sticking. They find one another, they getting off the ball, they making quick decisions with it. That's what Phoenix don't do, right? But who would have been that player for them that like the dream? It's a system. It's the way it's what you implement is what you
Starting point is 00:22:17 watching film and what you telling these dudes day in day out, right? You watch the ball can not fall on the coach. Now, huh? coach here now. That's what I'm saying. It comes back to him, right? The lack of ball movement, the lack of you trusting who you need to be playing, there's a lot of that going on. They need somebody to figure that part
Starting point is 00:22:38 of it out. If you're going to keep them three dudes, if Kevin Durant is leaving, whatever the situation is, you've got to find somebody that's different than if Kevin Durant is Lee, either whatever the situation is. You got to find somebody that's different than what you've had, right? Yeah, but you also need the player too. A player that can, like, who is the leader on the team that will make the change?
Starting point is 00:23:00 Like, who is they Draymond that will? That's why they brought the one dude in. That's not a leader. So should Devin Booker be the leader in this squad? He's been there 10 seasons. Like who's they Draymond that will Why they brought the one dude in Should Devin Booker be the leader this boy been there Tennessee That's why they bought the tires don't do right. I Jones disappointed with his role with the team took less bread Had some other options afraid At the best of whether since the turnover ratio He's not impact. Yes. So he's not going to run him over.
Starting point is 00:23:27 That's what I'm saying. Like, who's the, like, somebody. What does a point guard have to do on a team like that? Because he doesn't have to deliver the ball to them. They don't need a point guard. What do they bring him in for? You don't need a point guard on that team. You know what's so funny?
Starting point is 00:23:44 It makes them look worse now that Luka came to the Lakers. Who, the Phoenix? Yes. Both teams do damn near the same shit. Give it to you, you go one-on-one, try to figure out. Austin Reeves, you go one-on-one. LeBron, Jamie. It's the same type of system.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Give it to one person, let them figure shit out. But the difference is they actually understand how to move the ball once it gets out someone's hand. Here, it just seems like they don't have no identity outside. Give me the ball, let me do my thing. But it's still let me do my thing. It's like, one, y'all sacrifice way too much. Like, if I go in, double and I pass it, that's your shot.
Starting point is 00:24:31 You can shoot. It's weird because all of them are excellent shooters. All of them are excellent one-on-one players. If you're playing one-on-one, I'm a shooter. If I'm one-on-one, you're a shooter. And it goes from you playing one-on-one to give it to me. Now I want to play one-on-one, you're a shooter. And it's like it goes from you playing one-on-one to give it to me. Now I want to play one-on-one and give it to you. Now you want to play one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:24:50 We both can't be in the same. So you play with Luke and LeBron. Yeah, they're actually passing. And they're willing to pass. Yeah, they're willing. So you play with two of the guys that average. 20 and 19. 20 and 19, right?
Starting point is 00:25:06 While I average 29. And the ball, which is crazy, right? I'm looking at how the primary score which is you. The mother dudes getting theirs throughout. Through the offense, they're getting it
Starting point is 00:25:24 throughout, right? Running plays for them, they're fishing, they're start through the offense. They're getting it throughout, right? Running plays for him. They're fishing. They're getting to the line. They're making plays. Ball come to Gil. He's going to shoot it. Go make a play either way. He's going to get to the line. Fourth quarter comes. Primary score time. Take over, get us in the penalty, be as aggressive as you can possibly be. By the eye test and knowledge of the game that we know, they have three of those guys. That's fourth quarter, go get it at any given time. So them first three quarters, that ball is not doing what it needs to do.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Other guys not in the rhythm. Them dudes themselves not in rhythm because you, it's... It's the ailment too. So you've been catching, throw it and watch you go to work. Watch you go to work, right? The only one that doesn't fit that is Kevin Durant because he's so efficient. Them other two used to catching and massaging and getting
Starting point is 00:26:26 because they've been on bad teams so they have to carry they have to have to do so much. Right? The Phoenix team that book was on when he was scoring all the points wasn't good. Bradley Bill when he was scoring tight teams weren't good. So learning to adjust when the game is online when you need to win is is one thing Who's the implement that is you think they should have kept Chris Paul, you know, I Do yeah, but he wouldn't say I don't know if you would take less money. I mean this personality They need that personality. Yeah, this personality. Yeah need that personality. His personality, yes. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Absolutely fits with that. Yeah. That's what I think. They ain't been the same since then. Like, they haven't had that guard or that, like I'm saying. To get somebody to. So, you said CP's personality fits, but you don't think he would have been a good fit on this squad. So, why is that?
Starting point is 00:27:21 No, because the older Devin Booker got and Kevin Durant come in, it changes the landscape of it, right? You know, you're talking about an older guy. Like, he don't even finish games on a young team right now. So, you needed his voice more than him massaging the ball. He's a massager, too. So, you know. Whether he's playing or not playing, you need him.
Starting point is 00:27:44 But available. Playing all 82 games. The problem with some of these coaches is they don't understand the principles of how score score. Michael Jordan was given a triangle not because fucking Michael Jordan couldn't score. It's because the other guys. You need to keep the other
Starting point is 00:28:04 guys moving so the defense moves. The triangle was for everyone else but Michael Jordan. Everything else but Kobe Bryant. Right? The offense is made for the team. The best player
Starting point is 00:28:20 figures out how to score inside of the offense. So they don't have an offense for the team itself. No matter what system you put in, Kevin Durant will figure out how to get his buckets. That's what he does. You had Golden State, they had their offense. Steph figured out how to score.
Starting point is 00:28:42 You put KD in there. KD reads the offense. Okay, this is where I need to get my buckets. Boom, boom, boom. That out how to score. You put KD in there. KD reads the offense. Okay, this is where I need to get my buckets. Boom, boom, boom. That's how that works. San Antonio, that offense was made for who? Tim Duncan. Tony Parker figured out, okay, to pick a role, they got to do this.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Ginobili came in. He was part of the offense. He wasn't. You do this shit, make them think about you, then we can go back to the offense, right? So the fact that they don't have a baseline offense to keep movement around to get like down screens up screens back doors It kind of puts pressure on for them to try to be one-on-one stars and efficient and efficient at the same time I ain't playing team ball. And that's what...
Starting point is 00:29:26 The only efficient one is KD. Yes. Like, Denver's... Denver often does not give the ball to Jokic. It might seem that way. It might seem that way. But that's not the offense. It's like...
Starting point is 00:29:40 Moving. Like, they just move, pass, he finds, like he's... It's the game within the game. And because he's the best player, he knows how to manipulate it to make everyone look good. No different than, we had the same offenses. Kenyon, Kenyon and them had the same offenses. The Kings.
Starting point is 00:30:01 We all three had the Princeton. All three looked different. Same plays. Because the stars on the team figured out how to score inside of the principles of that offense, so it looked different. They became, you know, Weber and them was backdoor passing, jump shooting team. Backdoor fast breaking team, catching lobs. We didn't have no lobs, so we didn't even think about
Starting point is 00:30:26 none of those plays, but it was fake pass, wasn't aim screen. You know what I mean? We was more flares and backdoors. So we took a piece of the offense to see how it worked for us. And that's what they need. They need an offense for everybody else to move so the star players can.
Starting point is 00:30:42 What do you think is the new offense these kids are running? The better teams are still running early 2000 offense. It don't be looking like they run nothing to be sure. It looks like they don't run. Golden State's still running
Starting point is 00:30:57 Chin Series. Yeah, I know that. You still have Denver still running offense. JJ's trying to put in some of the Orlando stuff I can see, where they have dip-ins, get it, pass it, screen flare type of. Who else is out there? Other than that, it's AAU style where you're doing
Starting point is 00:31:26 five out pass and screen away. I say five out. Yeah, it's five out. It's the government's offense. Five out. Where Cleveland runs. Oh, Cleveland runs offense. Cleveland runs offense because they got a post player
Starting point is 00:31:37 in every bowl. They got two bigs who they play consistently. So, yeah. I mean, if you fuck around, you think you finna throw a small down there on Jared Allen because he the odd man out, they gonna throw him the ball consistently. Just so you know. Strong and afro.
Starting point is 00:31:53 No, they gonna feature him. If you, okay. But you gotta do that type of stuff too to get the big, happy, get him motivated and shit too. And he can score, so. And it ain't just running up, shooting threes, picking rows, shooting threes. Jump hook shit still work, dog. Forget about the big,
Starting point is 00:32:10 just picking rows. Hey, duck ends and dunks and rolls still work. So let's talk a little more about the Sun Squad. It's a roster that for now still has Kevin Durant, Devin Booker, and Bradley Beal on it. So reports from Brian Winhurst yesterday indicated that KD
Starting point is 00:32:24 was not happy with the coaching change. So reports from Brian Winhurst yesterday indicated that KD was not happy with the coaching change. So we saw KD coach Bud get into it earlier this season. KD came in support of his coach, said that was a normal situation. You know, he gets into it with coaches a lot, and people were looking too deep into it. But as a reminder, here's what Suns owner Matt Ishbia said one year ago in May 2024 when asked if the Suns problems are fixable.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Oh, it's extremely fixable. I mean, let's just be real, although this isn't a cool narrative and the national media really won't want to play it out there, but ask the other 29 GMs. 26 of them would trade their whole team for our whole team and our draft picks and everything as it is. The house is not on fire. We're in great
Starting point is 00:33:02 position. It's not hard to fix. It's not like we're like, hey, we don't have enough talent to win a championship. We have enough talent to win a championship. Do we have enough continuity? Do we have time together? There's a lot of things we can look at. Do we have the right leadership in place? Do we have to add some little pieces around?
Starting point is 00:33:15 It's not like we don't have people that can score the ball, play defense and have one champ. We have all the things. And so how fixable is it? I mean, if I read the media, I would think we have a lot of problems. And you did. Well, here we are. Did I just say that?
Starting point is 00:33:31 Why was he so hyped? Hell of a drug. Hell of a drug, ladies and gentlemen. That Adderall sold a thousand right now. So in your guys' estimation and opinion, how attractive is the Sunss coaching job at this point? Very attractive. Yeah, still very attractive.
Starting point is 00:33:48 We open, we about? No, they ain't have, he ain't, that was a year ago, so yes. Peace is still in place. You get the right guy, person in there. Kevin Durant might not have been happy with that, but I don't know. I don't... He wasn't happy with what? Brian better be careful putting words in there. Katie don't play that shit.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Katie don't play that shit. Yes, he does not. Hopefully Katie wasn't... Hopefully that was a true statement. He was upset that... That bug got fired. Oh, it was. No. Oh, my, why did they fire you? I'm getting him to fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:34:30 So if they get the right person, they're all right, man. They just. Who, though? Nah. Who want a bag for at least a year? For at least a year. That'll extend, you know. Bring in Memphis Jokes.
Starting point is 00:34:41 The Memphis coach. Nobody. Taylor Jenkins. They ain't going to go to the Dinks. No, they need. they need someone young. Mike Malone looking for a job. I heard him talking about it. Mike Malone.
Starting point is 00:34:49 His best friend. Well, he ain't with him. Well, Bo Bo be out of there, because he didn't play him in motherfucking Denver. Well, Bo Bo's already out. They might as well just. Attract a destination. They shouldn't even have a coach.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Let them coach themselves. Just do it y'all subs. See what y'all got. Sub them coach themselves. Just do it yourselves. See what y'all got. Sub in when you want to sub, man. They're Kevin Durant coaches. Yeah, this is like adult league, man. For real. You really want to see some basketball,
Starting point is 00:35:13 turn that bitch into adult league. You'll sleep 48 minutes. You think players want to goddamn load manage. Put no coach involved. Ain't no motherfucking sub to be out. Goddamn, fuck you. So is this the most attractive job opening right now? Obviously, there's
Starting point is 00:35:31 interim coaches around. Hell yeah. Oh, they paying good money in fire? Oh, yeah. Phoenix, sir? Oh, my God. Not are y'all hiring, are y'all firing? Yes. Young coach. I'm putting my shit in already. Yeah. How are y'all hiring? How are y'all firing? How is that? They need to go young. Young coach. They need to go young.
Starting point is 00:35:46 No, no. I don't give a who that. I'm putting my shit in already. Yeah. Me too. Gil did apply for the job. Yeah. Me too.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I said, listen, I can be anybody price on Zip Recruiter. Five year, 25. I got five year, five million. Just give me the job. I'll give. I'll be done with you. I'll be done with all of our. You can find me at the training camp guy.
Starting point is 00:36:03 I'm fucking up. What? It's free money over here. It's free money over here. It's free money. I'm in done with you. I'll be done with all of you. You can find me at the training camp. It's free money over here. It's free money over here. I'm in the wrong business. So, Mr. B, you brought up a situation a little bit ago that we're going to address now. So, according to reports from Chris Haynes and Arizona Sports Radio talk show host John Gabadoro, earlier this season Coach Bud had a meeting with Bradley Bill and told him he wanted to be the Drew Holiday of the Sun Squad.
Starting point is 00:36:27 So as a reminder, Holiday wanted Chip with Coach Budd and the Bucks back in 2021. Sacrificed his scoring outfit for the good of the team. Needless to say, Bill wasn't feeling this request, felt disrespected. So reportedly telling Coach Budd, don't ever disrespect me like that. Don't ever tell me to play like another player. That's just a report. Don't know if those words were disrespect me like that. Don't ever tell me to play like another player. That's just a report.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Don't know if those words were actually said like that. But you guys understand why Bradley Bill was upset with Coach Bud telling him to be the Drew Holiday of this Sun Squad. No. So he wants you to play like a winner. Mm. Cool. Well, and he could have said play like a winner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Yeah. Instead of comparing him. Like a future Hall of Famer. That's his ego because he said play like a winner. Yeah, but yeah. Instead of comparing him. Like a future Hall of Famer. That's his ego because he said don't compare me to another player. So that's not even a shot at Drew. It's a shot at I'm here as me. Why are you trying to make me someone else? He's not trying to make you someone else.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Just the style. What we did to win, right? This fit us. Mike's style of coaching, this what this player did for our team, right? Yeah fit us. My style of coaching, this is what this player did for our team, right? Yeah, but that's not the same. It's not the same team, though. I can see why he say Drew all day
Starting point is 00:37:33 because they both play defense. He can score. Have you noticed it's always they're taking some super talented person, making a mess? I've that's the only thing. I've never seen it go the other way. Hey, Drew, I need you to play like KD right now.
Starting point is 00:37:49 You know it's physically not possible. They're always trying to, and I personally don't like it. That's why he get mad. I personally hate coaches who do that. Right? This is your fucking food. Cook on this. I don't want to hear about what you used to have.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Because I'm pretty sure you didn't tell Drew Holiday to play like somebody. You took him as is and he showed you something. Don't go to another house and say I need you to play like my old girlfriend. That is not how you do it. Because the new girlfriend is like, I don't know how she fucking do this. It is disrespectful. I don't know how she fucking that was Disrespectful no, I am NOT you holiday. I've never done anything that drew holiday at the Jew holiday Well, you guys play deep both guys are two-way players So that's why when he's looking at the Bradley bill, we're not
Starting point is 00:38:42 So so it's like Shit mellow, George Carl said to him. He wanted him to play like Deadlift Shrimp. Now, that's like no. Like fucking no. Right? I get your point then. Absolutely. Man, get the fuck out of there, man.
Starting point is 00:38:55 I'm going to get up and walk the fuck out. Get the fuck up and walk out. Shout out Deadlift. But still though, but in this situation, right? I ain't gonna lie. Right? Shout out Deadlift, though. But still, though, that's... I... But in this situation, right? Okay, you feel dismayed in comparison to another player,
Starting point is 00:39:13 but you gotta look like... Take your emotion out of it, right? In that moment. Take your emotion out of it in that moment. All right. So what you mean, bud? Right?
Starting point is 00:39:24 What does that mean? Just so, so therefore, just ask for clarification. Instead of bringing a whole other player into the equation, knowing that Riley Beal is going to be like, why are you trying to make me? But he don't know if he's going to react that way. He'll be like, I need you to play better defense. I need you to lock up. So therefore, that's why I said, so ask for the, so what you mean by that, right?
Starting point is 00:39:41 Which he probably didn't. What you mean by that? I'm sure he did. Right? No, he just said, don't you ever fucking compare me to another. Like, no. Like, he's trying to help you. And you're taking it as an insult.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Right? I'm trying to help us. And I'm trying to help. Like, asking you to become, like, maybe it's me. I think fucking Drew Holiday is a fucking hell of a basketball player. And a Hall of Famer. Drew Holiday. I'm saying, but to asking you to contribute like that,
Starting point is 00:40:11 I don't see that as a problem. Was Mike there before Bradley Beal got there or after? But that's what I'm saying. You want to meet... It's no different than comparing your old girl to your new girl. You get a new girl, and then you're saying, I want you to be like
Starting point is 00:40:25 this last one. No, it's not. Because that's who you're infatuated with. No, it's not. Did he say Katie played like Giannis? So, just tell you, listen, I'm going to give you some real shit. So, in your quote you just made, right, my wife, she grew up not cooking soul food, the stuff that I
Starting point is 00:40:42 eat, right? My ex did. I didn't ask listen I like these things right this is what makes me happy she learned how to cook them I didn't compare her but I like these but I didn't tell like she knew that this person could cook already? I like dressing and not stuffing for Thanksgiving. But she learned how to make that, right? Because I voiced that I like that. This is what I like on my, so the same thing. I'm not asking you to be her.
Starting point is 00:41:21 He's not asking you to be, but take what the ingredients that it is for winning that Drew had. That's what I'm thinking Mike meant. That's what I'm saying. To ask for clarification in the moment probably would have been ideal. I don't know if he did or if he didn't.
Starting point is 00:41:38 But from the statement, it don't sound like he did. Well, did he ask other players to be other players? See, that's you worried about the wrong thing now. He ain't got to ask anybody. This conversation I'm having with White, you're worried about what you're asking anybody else. You ain't got to ask Devin Booker. You're taking one player
Starting point is 00:41:53 on the team that had a... You don't know his conversation that he had with other guys, right? You don't know the conversation that he had with other people. Booker would be like... Booker don't need to be... This conversation even happened. What's the other name? Katie Giannis? Katie don't need to be... Zach? This conversation even happened. What's the other name? Katie Giannis?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Katie don't need to be... Katie's already NBA champion. Booker's already been to the finals. I've never seen it act in a positive way when coaches do that. Have you ever had a coach tell you how they wanted you to be like another player? Yep. Who? Who?
Starting point is 00:42:21 Who? Who? I was told to be like Mookie Balock. Oh, shit. Coming in, and I asked my coach, hey, how much did you average when you played? That was your response? Yeah. And then he told me, and then I said, if I want to average that, I'll take your advice.
Starting point is 00:42:38 I was like, I'm going to just keep going. I'm going to do. I'm going to just be honest, because obviously. I think it's different. Your mindset has you averaging 7 and 8. I'm good on that. In between. It's not disrespectful. You're talking about a two-time NBA champ.
Starting point is 00:42:52 But that's not the case. You are you. You've been you since you was little. And you're telling me to be you. I can't be you. I can't be you. I know that. Nigga, you're 6'4".
Starting point is 00:43:04 You got a 37-inch vertical, whatever it is. I'm a hybrid scoring machine, and you're telling me to be something you've been your whole life. I would rather you just said, hey, listen, can you play more defense, help side this? I'm sure you probably said that. Like, tell me that. Don't tell me to be you, Because that's like way too old. Like this, not be you. Be like this.
Starting point is 00:43:27 He said be like this, right? Be like this. Be like this. Be like this and being like something is too, if he's saying, yo, be like this. No, no, no. But what I'm saying is the comparisons of another player that this man probably feels is below him in attributes. And that's disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:43:42 But if you look at it. It's all disrespectful. Just tell me what I need... Just tell me what you need me to do versus comparing me to somebody. Hey, man, I want you to implement this shit in your game like Tim Duncan. I want you to play your shit like Tim Duncan. I would have been like, all right, cool. Yes.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Right? Drew Holley is a... But it's still... It's still... It's still another player. It's still another fucking player. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, but you went up.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Huh? You went up. Okay, so I'm trying to get you to go up. So what is... No, I'm going up to a player. So what is... So Bradley Bill is... Right, right. Yeah, but you went up. You went up. Okay, so I'm trying to get you to go up. So what is... No, I'm going up to a player. So you think Bradley Beal and Juha play alike? So what is...
Starting point is 00:44:08 So Bradley Beal is... Right, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's have a conversation. Is there a player like to y'all? What kind of conversation? Who's... Is there a player like to y'all?
Starting point is 00:44:16 No, but let's have... Who's better? Wait, Bradley Beal better than... As a player? Who's a better basketball player? Yeah, yeah. As a player? Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Overall basketball player. Overall. Yeah, we say... I mean, yeah. It's more than what. Wait, wait, wait. It's an overall basketball player. We're not saying who's better or worse. Yes, we are. I just asked a question. Bradley Bill is not better than Drew Holliday. So I'm going to let y'all know that. Bradley Bill is not better than Drew Holliday.
Starting point is 00:44:35 He's not. I can go ahead with that shit. No, no, he's not. No, he's not. No, he's not. So I don't know about all that. No, he's not. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I don't. Listen. I think Drew Holliday is better. He's on a bad team. Let's call a spade a spade. He's on a bad team. He shot No, he's not. Listen. I think Drew Holliday is a better player. He's on a bad team. Let's call a spade a spade. He was on a bad team. He shot the ball every fucking time. Yeah, I think Drew Holliday is a better player.
Starting point is 00:44:51 He's on a bad team. No, but they went to the playoffs. You can't be that bad if you go to the playoffs. In which NBA? Him and John Wall went to the playoffs. And then when John Wall left? By himself. What did he average when John Wall was there?
Starting point is 00:45:03 Did you see what he averaged? He averaged 20 something. But when he aver this 30, no, he didn't have 20. When he had this, you never had 30 when he had this 30. They were they were a good team. But when he had a matter, I didn't ask you that. Nick have drew ever did that. I said when he had his 30 with a good team. No know Have drew ever did that join never had to carry no team juice, but he had some bad thing He's been on some good. He had good play. He just got on good team. Yeah good players around him That's 16 was right when he made the all-star game and they're talking about pierce here's an offensive fire part Bradley bill wins this okay cool if we're talking about impact of winning Overall one is a three-time all-star multiple 30-point season. He's a good he's a good
Starting point is 00:46:06 With the best yes, I agree with you. Who makes more bread? No, I'm just kidding. You know what I'm saying? Like, I agree with you. Yes. I think Drew is a better player. Yes. You compare me to a $30 million player? Absolutely. I'm with you. When did y'all start saying this about Drew, though? Who? When he won a championship. Who?
Starting point is 00:46:13 When he won a championship, right? Because he wasn't playing that many games. He was missing seasons and shit. I've always thought Drew Holiday was like that. He always... But when did y'all start saying this? When did he start getting all these praises? For me, always.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I've always liked the way he played the game. On both sides of the ball. Always. He was like that in Philly. He was. I'm not saying he's not like that, but I'm just saying. It's just been elevated for everybody else. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:36 For everybody else. When did everybody start seeing Drew Holiday like? Because he made it deep enough. They don't see you until you're in the playoffs making deep runs, Nick. That's a problem. When you're on TV, when each one of your games is on TV. This wasn't the first time he'd been in the playoffs. But every night, though, you're on a good team.
Starting point is 00:46:55 You got the MVP on your fucking team. So you're going to be on TV a lot more. So they're going to talk about you a lot more. Media plays a big influence in what everybody else thinks. During the game, commentating, they look at Drew Holiday. Drew Holiday is this. He's that. Look at his defense. Drew's is this. So now everybody's paying more attention to him. So now the more games are on, you're hearing his name more and more people are paying attention to it. Real basketball people like like myself, been knowing this, what he does on both sides of the ball.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Because I don't watch just highlights or what they're saying during the game. I just don't listen to the commentators. Y'all watch them on New Orleans, too? Yes. Good there, too. Fucking good there, too. They just got hurt.
Starting point is 00:47:42 So we asked the chat. They had a very good play on it. So they had good tips. Who else? They had Book. Come on, hurt. So we asked the chair a very good play on it So they're good too. So what do you have book? Come on, man. So we asked We won on the show then Nick, that's why I was still in the league, man. You was on other shit. You was on other shit. You didn't say that. I didn't hear none of this. I didn't even play. I didn't even see you on. It was fucking with, what, who was you with?
Starting point is 00:48:11 Fox or ESPN? They were playing in the playoffs. I didn't even see. Drew Holiday was on. So was you watching it then, Nick? I'm just saying. So name the shows I was on, Nick. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I don't know. I know you was on some shit. I know you seen it. So did you ever watch them, Nick? Did you ever watch them? I'm just saying. I thought you said it. Did you ever watch them? Did you ever watch them? Did you ever watch them in real time? I can't go back and look at some clips of you saying it.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Did you ever watch them? So how you going to know what I said and what I didn't say? Don't fucking put words in my mouth, nigga. So you said it? Did you say something? Nigga, don't say shit I did or didn't say. You don't know, so shut the fuck up. So you must have been saying that then. We have some jump fans here.
Starting point is 00:48:47 I'm saying it now. Shout out to Nick. All right, that's all that's fucking up. So we asked the chat, Coach Bud asking Bradley Bill to play like Drew Holiday is fine or disrespectful. 59% said fine. We also asked the chat, who's better, Drew Holiday or Bradley Bill? 78% of the chat said Drew Holiday. All right, let's move on to Devin Booker real quick before we keep this thing moving. So Devin Booker played in the Suns' final home game this past Friday
Starting point is 00:49:10 despite the fact they were eliminated from playoff contention. Here's why he played in his own words. In front of those fans that I just spoke about. It took a real Suns fan to be in there tonight and still cheer with pride and, you know, it's something I don't take lightly. You know, they've always showed love to me, so, you know, I pay their respects to the person. It was their first time or maybe their last time ever seeing me play. So, it was their first time or maybe ever their last time seeing me play.
Starting point is 00:49:43 So, whether it was the Suns' first time seeing D-Book play or maybe perhaps their last time. me play so whether it was the Suns first time seeing D book play or maybe perhaps their last time interesting choice of words there But do you respect book for going out there to entertain his home fans, even though the Suns? Eliminated from the playoffs. Yeah, I mean it's his team He's been along you so no, I mean he better respect that when everybody else sitting out the last game It's fan appreciation night People paying a hard-earned money man and coming them game somebody they didn't When a lot of them people bought those tickets, they didn't know that Phoenix wasn't gonna be in the playoffs Because they had to buy them tickets months ago, man
Starting point is 00:50:19 But like in order to when you take your family to NBA game you gotta save up Yeah, or you could play the stuffHub stock market like I like to do. It was part of the past. Or the SeatGeek stock market. Last minute. Oh, shit. They asked how. Yeah, that's cool, too.
Starting point is 00:50:34 But most people, they don't know that hustle like you do, right? Well, learn the game. They got to save up. They got to save up to take their kids to the game, man. Use code Gil. You're on SeatGeek. So shout out to D-Book, man, for going out there under them circumstances when there's nothing to play for but putting the fans first, right?
Starting point is 00:50:51 Putting the people first, the people that's buying his jersey, the people that's been cheering for him for as long as he's been in Phoenix, man. That's a true professional, so shout out to him. Here's another layer to that, though. So according to Brian Windhorst, this just dropped recently, a Booker eligible to sign a two-year, $150 million extension this summer, which Phoenix is expected to offer, according to Windhorst's sources. So Booker already under contract through the 27-28 season,
Starting point is 00:51:16 but this would make him $75 million a year over those two seasons in his early 30s. He ain't going nowhere. So Booker currently viewed as untouchable by Phoenix. So we heard that clip of him saying whether it's his son's first time or maybe their last time being able to see him play. Is Devin Booker a lifer with the Suns? He's 28. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:51:37 But I'm just asking. Oh, you said he played the last game to make sure that he get that? No, I'm just saying what his comments were, whether this was the Suns' first time watching or maybe their last time. Yeah. Sounded a little like, why would it be our last time? You could be back next season. But they're in that arena.
Starting point is 00:51:53 No, they're in the arena. They're in that arena. Like I just stated. Somebody might have came out of town and that's the only time. Michael Jordan said that all the time. This might be first or last. I don't know. I'm going out there playing hard.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Man, Phoenix needs to be. Don't try to change the word now. Don't try to change the word now. Don't try to change the word now. It was a Michael Jordan thing. These people might have came in, flew in for the first time. No, I'm just saying. That was a thing. Like, let's not try to make it seem like something else.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Back then, what did Michael Jordan say? He plays every game like what what, it's the first time or the last time seeing me play. At none of the time with him leaving, this might be their only time. Did I say that to you? That was a thing.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Debuked 10 seasons of Phoenix. Obviously went to the final 2021. Now will have his fourth head coach in four seasons. You feel like he's going to... How many head coaches has he had in his 10 years? Let me count it for you. I know it's going to be at least five.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Whatever that number is, give it to him. It's definitely five for sure. That's more than five. I'm just saying, whatever it is, just give it to him. It's cheaper. It's cheaper to give it to him now. Shit. Not good. It's got to give it to him now. Shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Not good. Hold on. It's shit. It's gotta be like six or seven. It's a lot of days. You know, it's cheaper when they just extend you. Next coach will be Book's eighth coach. Damn.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Eight coaches in 10 years? Let Book pick the next coach. Eight, 11. Let him do the interviews. Let him do everything himself. I think of the early years. Jeff Hornacek, Earl Watson. The fact that he got to the final.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Jay Triano, Igor Kokoskov, Matthew Williams, Frank Vogel, Mike Budenhofer. There's no way to be successful with that many coaches. And that's the thing. His legacy is going to be remembered as he didn't do nothing. But no one's going to say... He had a new coach every other year. Because this is not done, trust me.
Starting point is 00:53:49 This is not the last one he's going to have because he's going to be there. There's no way for him to be successful. So the fact that they got to the finals is very impressive. And got rid of that coach. And then got rid of the coach and all his teammates. And all his teammates.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I'm going to be here. I don't know about y'all. And all his whole team. Don't get comfortable. Coach, teammates, gone. Now, that's two coaches ago. 20 years ago. They all were.
Starting point is 00:54:17 So y'all believe Book stays, he rides it out. Is there ever a point where it's like, all right, dog. If they fire the next coach. If they go through this next one. The last straw, goddamn it. Maybe they'll get
Starting point is 00:54:31 the 10 coaches. That's two more, right? Eight coaches in 10 seasons. At this point, you might as well just create your own legacy. Just give me a new coach
Starting point is 00:54:40 every year, goddamn it. Fuck it. Give me a new coach and find me two more. Just keep trying them out. Keep trying them, goddamn it. Somebody goes. You know what I mean? Give me a new coach and find a new team. Let's keep trying them out. Hey, keep trying them. Goddamn. Somebody goes,
Starting point is 00:54:47 we're going to win with one of them. Hey, we're just going to win. As long as I'm here, we got a chance. So we asked the chat, will Devin Booker spend his entire career
Starting point is 00:54:55 in Phoenix? 54% of the chat says no. 46% though believes that he will stay there for the long haul, but let's keep this thing moving. We'd like to give a shout out
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Starting point is 00:57:02 He talking about both of y'all. Nah, he talking about the camera. Said he gonna bust your ass too. Nah. I'm just telling you what he said. I'm real... He said Gil need to get the. He's talking about both of y'all. Nah, he's talking about him. He said he's going to bust your ass too. Nah. I'm just telling you what he said. I'm really. He ain't busting my ass. I ain't playing.
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Starting point is 00:57:41 Oh. Pull up to our playback watch party for the Grizzlies Warriors game tonight on playback TV slash Gilbert arenas. I See you playing a big three. I know you could be One game I Will listen to game the championship thing me I played that first game in the last game The one that mattered Let's keep this thing moving. So with the NBA regular season behind us, the league dropped the list of top jersey sales from the second half of the season.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Let's take a look. Some surprising names. Oh, what do you know? Leading the way is Luka Doncic, followed by Steph Curry and LeBron James. Jason Tatum, Jalen Brunson round off the top five. Wimby, Ant-Man, Jai, SGA, and the Joker complete the top ten. Luka, the first
Starting point is 00:58:27 international player to have the highest-selling jersey in league history. So, according to NBA, the rankings account for Donchik's season-long jersey sales, meaning his Mavs gear
Starting point is 00:58:36 still counted towards him getting the number one spot. So, you got LeBron and Luka, number three and number one. Look at the two MVPs. Where they at? Nobody want them bullshit-ass jerseys. No, no, no. I'm just... So you got LeBron and Lucas number three and number one at the two MVPs
Starting point is 00:58:47 Nobody want them bullshit No, no, no, I'm just so what are these Jersey sales tell you about Lucas status in the league right now? They got multiple sales from the same people. It's still impressive, but all the same people went and bought Luka jerseys. Do you have a Luka map shirt? No. No, I wouldn't. Do you have a Luka Lakers jersey?
Starting point is 00:59:15 Of course. OK. Yeah, because you got the Dallas fans, and then you got all the Lakers fans. Lakers fans bought Lakers jerseys. So that shit just went. Yo, can we put that back up? Luka fans bought Lakers jerseys. So that shit just went. Can we put that back up? Luka fans bought Lakers jerseys.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And just the Luka Luka fans bought Luka jerseys. I did have the first Luka Lakers jersey. The Luka Luka fans. So if we take out Steph and Bron, who would be in the top five next year, you think? I'm shocked about it. It's Brunson. I ain't going to lie. If Bron and Steph retire, who's going to be in the top five? year, you think? You know, I'm shocked about Brunson. I ain't going to lie. If Braun and Steph retire, who's going to be in the top five?
Starting point is 00:59:47 I know he's in New York. Brunson would be in the top five. New York Knicks. Based on this list, it would be Luka, Tatum, Brunson, Wimby. Outside of New York. I think John would be in the top five. If you look at every New York, if you ever look at every New York, the star always made it.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Right, Porzingis, his jersey was in the top ten every time. Melo? Melo, of course, Melo. I think Love Melo will move into the top five. He's been driving me in for... Shout out to the Melo ball. LaMelo said he wanted to stay in. Love Melo.
Starting point is 01:00:15 I see Ja being in the top five next year. But I'm just saying, I haven't... Well, I'm not from... Because he's the only Nike player there. I don't go to New York, so I... That's why I originally said that. They have a problem. The NBA has a problem.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Because John... I mean, John... Because the only Nike player that they actually have when LeBron leaves is John Morant. And Wimby, but John Morant for guards. But two Jordan guys in the top four. I'm not saying... Nike is not Jordan. They have their own separate thing.
Starting point is 01:00:42 But it's all feeding the same machine, though. That's what I said. No, Nike... That's why Nike needs to re-evaluate how they're going to come at Youngfella because Youngfella is the future for them. So they need to really have a sit-down with him because I don't think he knows who he really is or what he's supposed to be,
Starting point is 01:00:59 so you have to have that nice conversation with him because if you kill him off, let's look at the rest of the list. There's only one other guy, though. No, but what I'm saying is, Nike, you're the face of the NBA and the face of Olympics and the face of who is your guy.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Who is representing you? No one. There's no one below. You didn't build them. They gonna put John on the Olympic team? Who? They will try. Who? I'm asking, are they gonna put him on the Olympic team? Hell no. You didn't build them. They're going to put Ja on the Olympic team. Who? Ja? They will try. I'm asking, are they going to put him on the Olympic team?
Starting point is 01:01:29 Hell no. You don't think Ja can make the 2020 X-Box? Can he in 2025? A lot could change. Yeah, a lot could change. A lot is going to have to change. Not can change. It's going to have to change in order for him to be on the Liberty I don't think they have anybody else though
Starting point is 01:01:47 0-1-8 They don't have no 1-8 The two Nike players they have One is in France Unless they do A way up in Detroit Unless they bring K They don't have no following yet.
Starting point is 01:02:06 I'm just saying, after this playoff series, they're super... They don't have... He's going to make all of them in Bayton. He also has Cade. Cade is not a fan favorite. No, no, no. I know, not right now,
Starting point is 01:02:20 but I'm saying by the time 2028 comes, it's going to be Cade. They both can make it, though. He don't have the game. Who, Cade? Cade, he don't have the game that the fans resonate with. Well, I know one thing. They're going to see this year.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Well, to your point, right, that you just made Nike, you're going to have to sit down with Young's fellow. And the NBA. Both. Yeah, both. Both of them. Therefore, and let's see what comes from it. But as of 2025, we're looking at what we... Listen.
Starting point is 01:02:52 I mean, it's going to be hard to keep them off that thing. Cut your hair. Cut your hair. John, them kids love it. Let's get a rebrand. Cut your hair. Let's get you a rebrand. There's going to have to be a drastic change.
Starting point is 01:03:01 You're going to have to be a 180, man. Yep. You're going to have to be a complete 180. Them kids love John, man. Yeah, they love him. Shit. But that's what I'm saying. It's gonna have to be a 180, man. Yep. It's gonna have to be a complete 180. Them kids love Ja, man. Yeah, they love him. But that's what I'm saying. It's one of those things where they over here doing it. Every top high school basketball player right now doing this.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I'm not even going to pat Riley and do the I pretend I don't like you. And then when you decide to leave, I'm sitting there begging on my knees. I'm begging on my knees first. And say, look, man, look, our company right now, us moving forward is in your hands, and can you help us help you?
Starting point is 01:03:34 Yeah. Right? Whatever you need. Whatever you need, we're willing to help you because our brand is right now tied to you. Yeah, because they tried. I'm trying to push you. I want your billboard.
Starting point is 01:03:45 If you want to be in another city, I can help you do that. Please, just throw away certain things. Don't get in trouble no more. Clean your nose for the next three years, and we got you. Until we can build somebody up. They love Kyrie. That's what I'm saying. Once they lost Kyrie, it was.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Listen, I bet Nike wished these was Nike. Those are so hard. Man. Those Kyries. It's like I'm saying. Once they lost Kyrie, it was... Listen, I bet Nike wished these was not... Those are so hard. Man. Those Kyries. Like, I was looking at it. I'm like, if he moves out of the way, who can they fast forward to? The next biggest star,
Starting point is 01:04:15 or that's someone that's in front of him, will be on the WNBA side. And you say Wimby at six, but he's a big man. He's a big man. He's from France, so he's not even part of this. But what is Luka being number one? Obviously, you guys said Mavs fans. He's a Los Angeles Lakers.
Starting point is 01:04:34 That's what that means. Yeah, for sure. You see them five? You see them fucking five cities? I'm just so... So it brings to the next question. John Memphis. I'll tell you from L.A., we do not see a Bronson J. That's what I'm saying. How impressive is John being number eight? That's what I'm just so... So it brings to the next question. John Memphis. I'm going to tell you from L.A.
Starting point is 01:04:45 We did not see a Bronson jersey. That's what I'm saying. How impressive is Ja being number eight? That's what I'm saying. Playing in the city. Yeah. That's how I was shocked. Kids love Ja.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I'm just shocked. The kids love Ja. And parents are buying the jersey. Hopefully LaMelo Ball can get in the top ten. He will. He's a kid fan favorite too. He will. I mean, he's got to leave. He's a kid favorite. Yeah, I mean I mean, what's so funny? He went to New York or Los Angeles. He's gonna jump into the top five naturally
Starting point is 01:05:15 The most selling Jersey's like playing for the New York Yankees like the fuck and you like you guys say players Players notice these things right?? Steph should change his number. For the last year? For the last year? Like, you know what? This is my last year. You got to buy a new jersey. Changing it. Watch that shit, Scott Rock.
Starting point is 01:05:36 You got to buy new jerseys now. That would be crazy. Just for the one year. Just change it for the one year. But looking at this, number one. Braun changed his shit to his football jersey. Nine or some shit. He changed it for the one year. So but looking at the wrong Wrong changes hit this football. There's nine or some shit like everyone he changed it for number just number one Ronnie already One a zero what would be a number? Why is Brody going to zero?
Starting point is 01:06:01 Identifies with zero more What did he do? Nine. Okay. Y'all treat him like shit and he needs to prove himself. So let's look at this list. I'm going from a zero to a hero. So you got like Luke M1, Steph 2, LeBron 3, but Jason Tatum, fourth on the list. Does Tatum being fourth tell you that he's up next after LeBron and Steph retire? Alexi, our resident Celtics fan. Talk your shit, please. I did a lot.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Didn't I do this last episode? I talk too much about them, I feel like. I mean, look, it's the Boston Celtics. They talk about the Lakers all the time. Feel free. We are in Los Angeles. I mean, I said there's not much else that he needs to do. He now has the numbers of jersey sales to prove his popularity.
Starting point is 01:06:43 MVP. More, more. Give me some more, the league. MVP. More, more. Give me some more, Lex. MVP. No, I said it last episode. We were talking about what more Jason needs to do to be next up. It's the media at this point. That's all it is.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Who was the last time Boston Celtics was actually a jersey sales? Number one? Was it Jason Tatum at some point, like at least two years ago? What, number one? When was the last time Boston Celtics was number one? Kyrie? Someone sold jerseys in there. Kyrie maybe?
Starting point is 01:07:12 Was it Kyrie maybe? Was it? You forgot LeBron and Steph was still in the league. KG? Yeah, was it back when they was playing? No, Kobe Bryant was still in the league. But that made it was LeBron. He never been one. Yeah, Boston it back then? Kobe Bryant was still in the league Probably when Larry Bird
Starting point is 01:07:33 Magic was still never Kyrie I think got as high as four The Lakers have always had some type of superstar The Lakers always got a superstar You don't think he won? I don't. I can't say. I know. I know.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Rondo was as high as third in 2011, but Kyrie was high as the fourth. I'm still looking. Rondo? God damn. I believe. Yeah, no, Rondo. Oh, Rondo?
Starting point is 01:07:55 Yeah. Yeah. Garnett for the Celtics in 08. Yeah. He was number one? Number one. I said that. Damn.
Starting point is 01:08:02 That was his first year there? First year there. OK. That was the year they won the championship? It was his first year there? First year there. Okay. That was the year they won the championship? That's his first year there, they won the title. So that's to our point, right? Minnesota team. New team, New Jersey, same thing as Luka.
Starting point is 01:08:14 All the Minnesota fans he had bought Boston Celtics jersey. The Boston Celtics fans bought, and the Kevin Garnett fans bought Kevin Garnett jersey. So it's right. And they won too. Yeah. So they won. So they won, too. Yeah. So similar to this year. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Okay. No. I hear you. I hear you. I hear you, Joe. You know what's crazy? I just want to believe. You know what's crazy? Hold up.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Wait a minute. What? What was I saying? The first round. They got Chiz get out the first round. Yeah, that's huge for y'all. First round champion. All right. That's huge for y'all. First round champions. That's huge for y'all.
Starting point is 01:08:46 You know what the crazy thing is? It lets you know what fans actually think. You have the MVP, three-time MVP at 10. You have this year's MVP at 9, right? If he wins it this year. Number one in the West by a lot. And then you the other side in the East you got nobody from the number one team No calves on the list And if that calf Jersey and say James on it I don't want that
Starting point is 01:09:19 So yeah, I mean about success Only people got it. I'll style the George Only George got the jersey. They quiet over there. That's why, too. It's about style, man. They are quiet over there. George is the only one with a Cleveland shirt. I mean, Shue got it. I mean, Shue got the jersey.
Starting point is 01:09:33 But he got the whole crew cap shirt. I have not seen any of y'all. Maybe one of y'all is wearing the cap shirt. I'm saving it. Everybody demeanor over there. Huh? They be chilling over there. They be chilling, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:43 They're also in Cleveland, so. But does Tatum have a chance, though, based on what this is saying? Oh, yes. Damn, Lucas won! Oh. Damn, Lucas Younger. What he gonna do?
Starting point is 01:09:53 How many times? What he gonna do? Lucas won. He's in the Laker uniform. And don't let him win again. He's not gonna pass. What? He'll be two, though.
Starting point is 01:10:02 He's not gonna pass. Y'all crazy. Tatum will be two, though. He's gonna be two. He Y'all crazy as hell. He's going to be two, though. He's going to be two. He'll be one. He's not going to be one. Maybe if they win. He'll be two.
Starting point is 01:10:09 Maybe if they win. And whoever win out of that championship. You got to beat me, and then the next year is when it counts. The next year, Luka comes out averaging 35.99. His jersey is going to be the one selling. You think that's what it has to be? It got to be Celtics, Lakers, Spiders. Keep buying the new Lakers. Celtics got to beat the Lakers. Are you sure you want that, to be? It's got to be Celtics, Lakers, Finals. You ain't going to keep buying the new Lakers.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Celtics has got to be the Lakers. Are you sure you want that, Lakers? Yeah, that's what I said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, but. I feel like that's the only way it's going to happen. Once the season's over with, those jersey sales is done. So whoever was leading.
Starting point is 01:10:35 No, I'm talking about for Jason to become the next up. It's got to be Celtics, Lakers in the Finals, and then the Celtics has got to be the Lakers. Tatum, Chip, Finals MVP this year. Oh, yeah. He's got to win finals MVP. Does that elevate his jersey sales? And jersey sales, no. For next season.
Starting point is 01:10:51 No. Because next season still has to play. But next season has to play itself. Lucas Jersey is hype right now. It's like, he's a scientist. It's like a new shiny toy. He's in a Laker uniform. It's a new shiny toy.
Starting point is 01:11:03 OK, can someone ask, in the last 20 years, how many times has the Laker jersey been number one? The Laker jersey. Very frequent. The Laker jersey. I better watch for number 10 and number 11, though. Who's coming on that list next year? No, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:11:16 His name is Cooper Flagg. Very frequently. Not if his ass go to goddamn Charlotte. If his ass go to New York, goddamn it, you might be one, two, three. You better watch for number 10 and number 11, though. It might be one, two, or three. His ass go to goddamn Charlotte. If his ass go to New York, goddamn it, you might be one, two, three. Number 10 and number 11. It might be one, two, or three. His ass go to the Charlotte. Somebody gonna drop out.
Starting point is 01:11:30 No, for sure. Because number 10 and number 11 didn't know what happened to them. They stayed. They go to a big market. KD's gonna go up. And then before that, it was Kobe. Man, if 10, 11, 12 go to a big market. I'm pretty sure Miami, I'm pretty sure Miami Bron tried to beat me.
Starting point is 01:11:51 Miami Bron was number one 2010, 2011. That was it? In the championship? Well, number 13 goes to number 13. And then 13, 14. Put him on the list again. But then 14, 15 went back to the Cavs. He was number one.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Top 10. Number 13. Same with number eight. What? New team. I think if 10 or 11 go to a big market, I think it'd get real scary. They can't.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Well, he'd have to get. So Swaggy, they say you have one Nike sock on and one Jordan sock on. Damn, they looking close. They on you. They looking close to the Georgia socks. Our producers worked very hard on this show. It came like that.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Lakers led in jersey sale nine out of the last 20 years. Between Luka, LeBron, and Kobe. So what, Kobe? And the only thing that changed it was. LeBron got five, Kobe got three, and Luka got one. Bron got five, and Miami and Cleveland. He also had two in Miami, one in Cleveland. That was number one, right, for a couple of years?
Starting point is 01:12:44 One, I think. One or two. Just one year? All right, but let's talk about number eight on the list a little bit more. So after getting fined $75,000 for his finger gun celebration, Ja dropped a new celly, but not without controversy. As a reminder, here is a look at Ja's new celly. So we've already talked about this, but Ja appears to be throwing an imaginary grenade
Starting point is 01:13:05 and covering his ears for an imaginary explosion. Let's take another look. Imaginary grenade into the crowd. He's doing it for everybody. He threw it over T's head, though, thankfully. T was not in the blast area. Blowing himself up. Just threw it right up in the air.
Starting point is 01:13:27 It appears to be a Grenade celebration, but that may not be the case. So during a recent episode of the Gary Pera Show with Grind City Media, Grind City Media's senior editor and analyst Mike Wallace shed some light on Ja's new celly and a conversation he had with Ja about the meaning behind it. Ja's words. He said, you know, it's not what you think it is. He said, I'm taking my words and I'm throwing them out there. I'm being Ja. I'm going to take my words, I'm going to throw them out there and then I'm going to block out the noise. And that's what I'm doing. So when you see me do that, that's what I'm doing. I'm saying what I got to say to the world and I'm blocking out the noise and the mist that's what I'm doing. When you see me do that, that's what I'm doing. I'm saying what I gotta say to the world
Starting point is 01:14:05 and I'm blocking out the noise in the midst that's coming back my way. And that's how it's gonna be. There you have it. It's not actually a grenade celebration. Jai is just taking his words, throwing them out there, and then blocking out the noise of those words
Starting point is 01:14:21 as they explode. That's dope. This celebration made it across the pond as former NBA player Kendrick Nunn has brought it out in the EuroLeague. We have that video. That's words of wisdom right there. Kendrick Nunn
Starting point is 01:14:37 is doing it now in the EuroLeague. He's way overseas. It's good to see Kendrick Nunn playing. Obviously, Lakers fans. He was fantastic back. He'd be to see Kendrick Nunn playing, obviously, Lakers fans. Hooping. He would. But that's your back. Yo, he be hooping over there.
Starting point is 01:14:48 So, Jai Selly. Shit. Jai Selly. Crazy. Kendrick Nunn, what is that personal, because Jai is getting attacked by the media over here for his thing. So, what the fuck is Kendrick Nunn doing? I think he just liked the Selly, but to your point, Jai Selly also made his way to the
Starting point is 01:15:01 AAU circuit, both on the men's and women's side. The kids are loving it as well. It's a problem, man. Let's take a look at the kids doing it. Here we go. Sit your ass down. On the men's side. Come sit your dumb ass down next to me.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Caucasian grenade. You stupid as shit. Full of mayonnaise. And then on the women's side. That's okay. Here we go. Yeah, buck it. Kalina Smith, a five-star, top-ranked high school junior.
Starting point is 01:15:21 I'm a high school junior. I'm a high school junior. I'm a high school junior. I'm a high school junior. I'm a high school junior. I'm a high school junior. I'm a high school junior. I'm a high school junior. And then on the women's side. That's okay. Yeah, buck it. Kalina Smith, a five-star top-ranked high school junior. Can't wait to see her play this year. Busting out. But then we also have A.J. DeBansa,
Starting point is 01:15:35 who's expected to be the number one pick in 2026 on his way to BYU for a sufficient back. So he threw his grenade, covered his ears, but did not see the gentleman behind him, who was also impacted by the blast radius. The blast radius of Josh's words.
Starting point is 01:15:52 His words. We heard Josh's definition according to Mike Walsh. I'm taking my words, throwing them out there. Yeah, look what you did. So back to your question, Lexi, about the Olympics. I'm going to stand on my first answer. Fuck no. All right? I'm going to stand on my first answer. Fuck no. All right?
Starting point is 01:16:07 I'm going to go back to it. Do you think it matters that the Olympics are here? No. Oh, man. It ain't in Memphis. It's not overseas. It ain't in Memphis. Memphis, Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Do you think there's a better chance because it's not overseas, because it's in the States? Nope. Not after this. If you going over there, he going to be him and he going to continue to be him. Because they do it in Europe and they cool. Right? So in his words, what I'm hearing is he going to be him and continue to be him.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Yes or no? A variation. I'm speaking Ja, I'm going to be me. Throw my words out there. And I'm going to cover the noise and I'm blocking out what anybody got to say. Right? So there you have it. You ain't looking for help. I ain't going to accept no help.
Starting point is 01:16:50 What I gather from that. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm digging too deep and maybe I'm thinking too much about it. But from what I just heard. What I just heard. Everybody leave me alone. Yeah, leave me alone. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So leave me alone. Not the important people. Not a grenade. It's a word grenade. He saying. So leave me alone. Not the important people.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Not a grenade. It's a word grenade. He's Pawpaw right now. Pawpaw Martin. No, I'm just saying, man. I don't think it's that deep, King. Come on. I don't think so either.
Starting point is 01:17:13 I'm blocking out. I'm using my words. I'm throwing. I'm a bee-ji. I'm speaking ji. What is that? What is that? I don't think we've ever really talked about it.
Starting point is 01:17:21 I'm saying, so what are you... No facts. Then you're saying, I'm a bee-ji. I'm speaking ji. What is that? I don't think we've ever really talked about it. I'm saying. I'm going to be Jai. I'm speaking Jai. What is that? What is that? I already talked. I'm saying so. So what are you?
Starting point is 01:17:29 Then you're blocking. No. So he don't. He let his actions speak. Right. So his actions have been what we. I'm not putting on. I'm just going to what I've seen and what he just said.
Starting point is 01:17:41 I'm not putting nothing on it. I feel like he's. I think a young man is going to change. Huh? I think they're going to have a conversation and I think he's going to understand and then he's going to be alright. And he said that and everybody can make their assumptions if they want to. Yeah, what is he changing? Like, I don't get... What did he have to change?
Starting point is 01:17:56 If y'all wanted him to be the face of the NBA? No getting in trouble outside of the court? Which he doesn't anymore. That's what I'm saying. I mean, really, that's what we're judging him off of. What he did in a club or a club, I mean, or a car. That's really the narrative here. You take that away, what does he do besides actually have fun on the court celebrating and doing his dances?
Starting point is 01:18:18 Like, if you take that away, what he came into the NBA now. See, that's the thing. You can't take it away. That's the problem. No, no, what I'm saying is. Y'all want to erase this shit like it didn't happen. See, that's the thing. You can't take it away. That's the problem. No, no, what I'm saying is. Y'all want to erase this shit like it didn't happen. No, but this doesn't have to do with that. But it's part of the package.
Starting point is 01:18:31 You're just using this part for that. Part of the package. No, it's not part of the package. He is all like, he can never. The celebration doesn't have nothing to do. The fun celebration has nothing to do with. The fun celebration. No, you're right.
Starting point is 01:18:44 But the gun shit is what? The gun celebration was part of the league before he came, when he came, after he came. So we already talked about this. Okay, so it's... So, but we're talking about the whole... So you take away the gun stuff. But you can't say that's why... No, if I take away the gun celebration, what is my...
Starting point is 01:19:03 So let him do the dance. So nobody my what is the letter to the dance? So so nobody was complaining when he was doing the dance. Nobody had nothing to say. No, right. Nobody had anything to say No, let him have fun. I'm saying the same shit. I'm all for do your thing young fella have fun, right? but There there's a there's a line, for him in this situation. For him, not everybody else. For him, there's a line. Continue to have fun.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Do you. Do all. The new celebration, if that's what it is, have fun, young fella. Do your. If that's what you, I'm all for it. But you can't go, like, you can't do that part of it. And I'm with y'all, yeah. But if he's going to continue to have fun,
Starting point is 01:19:45 do you have fun. Like I'm with it. From someone who did it my way through my 15 year career, trust me, I get it. But when it was time for me to listen, I fucking listened. That's all.
Starting point is 01:20:01 I knew there was a line. I'm up for coming near it, but I just knew the consequences. That's all because reputation. Because I couldn't not say, well, sure, what if the motherfucker fights in the flavors? I can't take it away. It happened, right? So it's a part of me. It's a part of my whole, the reason that I can't punch nobody in the game
Starting point is 01:20:23 because I didn't did it already. And they told me if I do it again, this is the consequences. So with him, there's a line, right? Have fun, do you? I did, I played the game exactly how I needed. I didn't change the way I played the game. I didn't change. I'm swinging off the rim. I'm doing all the shit
Starting point is 01:20:40 that I was doing before, but I just had, I knew there was a line. That's all I'm asking him to recognize the line. But that's the problem. By the time he recognized the line, he was fined. So it happened, right?
Starting point is 01:20:52 So now he hasn't done it since. So there, but you... So now until he explained it and the dude came out and told everybody what Ja was saying, the world took it as he was throwing grenades, right?
Starting point is 01:21:06 So that's... But that's that part of the line? You own the money. Yeah, you fucking with it. But what I'm saying is... It's confusing. If you go back and you look at the beginning of it,
Starting point is 01:21:22 I can understand while he's sitting there like, what the fuck is the problem? Because he comes back from a suspension, right? Two games after, he catches a lob, dunks it against Atlanta. Wah, wah, wah. Hit the niggas with a rocket. You got stand up. It was funny.
Starting point is 01:21:47 This is what he does. He hits him with the rocket. Then pulls out the rocket. That rocket launches the whole arena. Nothing happens. It's the same shit as yours, right? But I got hit right there. The person that's in charge.
Starting point is 01:22:04 The man that's in charge, right? Yes. The man that's running this shit. Gary fucking T. One thing, you know this shit. No, no, he would have got him then. He would have got his ass right then. There would have been no... Listen, he wouldn't have gotten an opportunity
Starting point is 01:22:17 to do the rest of this shit. Because he would have hit him across his narrow ass right then, man. And hit that shit in the butt. That's what I'm saying. So you're really, especially for a young kid, like even NBA young, where this is what happened basically two games after I come back. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:36 From a gun suspension. You let me shoot the crowd, then rocket the crowd. And you didn't do nothing. And then you didn't do nothing. So you're okay to behave. And then another game after that, he did it before he got hurt. So he finished the season doing it. Because they told him, they told him, hey, we're going to clear your slate.
Starting point is 01:22:54 I did. What does that say? You're going to clear my slate? OK, cool. And then you start this season off doing the same thing. He even shot LeBron James. I got you. Just saying just that.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Bow, bow, bow, LeBron. I think it's funny. So your point, your answer. So you start to be, so you start to be, the season off, he shot about 20 people before you gave him a warning. I dig it. And the person, the person on the warning shot him first. He shot him back, though, right?
Starting point is 01:23:18 No, no, he shot him first. So wait a minute. I got the big guns. You have to look, no, you have to break it down. You have to break it down how it happened. They're shooting the free throw. He's been shooting the crowd the whole game. He got 36.
Starting point is 01:23:33 He got 36 kills. And what happened is Buddy Hill, Buddy Hill, the game is over. Right? So Buddy Hill pulls out his goddamn bazooka, holding it. Jimmy Butler shot the free throw, made it. Pow! Game over. Boom!
Starting point is 01:23:52 So we have to, what's the name, shot his free throw. Now John want to shoot his back. That's how it happens. So you know what I mean? The context of it is, it's like, well, I got shot first. I was just allowed to shoot a nigga back. That's it. But for the most part.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Just stay away from that. But from the player who's been in there, listen. John, you're a felon, and others do not. Yeah, there's other shit that you can do besides that. They are looking at this one, right? Like, don't connect this one. You got the grenades. You got your words, right?
Starting point is 01:24:24 You got the atomic bomb. You got your words. You got the atomic bomb. You got other things. You're going to rock this shit. You got other things. Just stay away from the guns. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. There's a line. That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:24:32 There's a line. Listen, do you, young fella, but there's a line. That's all I'm saying. It is. Just take this one out. There's 100 more you can create. Just take this one out. Don't want to remind people of this shit.
Starting point is 01:24:41 That's all. That's my point. Do you appreciate John's explanation for the new celebration and shifting it away from a grenade celebration to a. Whatever it is that makes everyone feel better, cool. So he can keep doing it because obviously, adults, these kids, don't give two fucks about your opinion, right?
Starting point is 01:24:59 They're going to do it. It's going to be all summer long. You better wear your grenade and bulletproof helmets all summer long. I'm telling you, everybody get creative with it. They're going to throw it, the bitch going to react, and they're going to start falling down. For sure, the bitch going to start.
Starting point is 01:25:17 The bitch going to start. It's going to get crazy. They lucky March Madness is done. I'm telling you, if it was Creighton, you lucky Creighton. You lucky Creighton is done, because they had the whole goddamn sideline. Student sections be jumping. People, like teams, want to have fun.
Starting point is 01:25:35 This seems fun. College basketball would have made big. College football, watch. Wait till the NFL season starts. You don't think they going to start throwing it. I want to bet they going to throw it. They might throw it with a tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, boom.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Right? Everybody just be like, the little. You gonna have someone controversy, go, he gonna get everybody to throw it. Teammate gonna stop it. Put the pin back in. Put it back in your pocket. You gotta try.
Starting point is 01:25:57 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do it. This shit is about to be fun. Like, it's fun. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but this is considered fun.
Starting point is 01:26:08 The reason guns was part of the NBA, because shooters are shooting. That was the sense of it. When you shot the ball, same thing with this, you shot. Like, if you go back to some of mine and look it up, I used to put mine in. Right, like, I'll shoot it. You can catch it like this. I hosted my shit.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Yeah. Right? That's cool. Were your imaginary guns loaded? You ain't pointing them at me. Were your imaginary guns loaded? I just finished shooting, goddammit. Blanks or real?
Starting point is 01:26:40 I shot it. I'm shooting. This is the gun. Are they movie props or they prop guns gun. Oh, they're actually with imaginary She got that ASAP Rocky gun or you guys the Dirty Harold's 50 cow To be honest 30 it was 50 cow. I know I could use both of them because Imaginary Who wants you to do that?
Starting point is 01:27:07 There was another player who used to do that. Like after they shot. Noah Kim Noah? Yo, Kim Noah. After he made one free throw, right? He used to be like, he used to come down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he should. Which is interesting.
Starting point is 01:27:20 He should. The way he shot that bitch, if it went in, absolutely. Yeah, that bitch, it got to go spread. I mean, like, you know, some of them, like, you know, Rocking the Baby was good. Yeah, there's some. Too small. There's some good ones. It just.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Night Night is, Night Night is. Night Night is fire. Night Night is kind of the hardest one, because it's been hap, he done it on the biggest stage. Yeah. He Night Nighted a country. An one because it's been happy. He done it on the biggest stage. You know, he night night country He did an entire world country if you Boston told him in the third quarter, uh-huh and then pointed at the ring There's nothing you can do there's the whole's still NBA basketball left to be played. That's gangsta. Right?
Starting point is 01:28:07 We got a whole 12 minutes. That's gangsta because it was right on time. Which one? Steph's. Yeah. Night-night is probably the best. Night-night. Because of when it happened. That game time when he hit the three on Paul George.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Yeah. That was crazy. That was wicked. The chat is saying that was wicked. Ice-Tree, New York. Yeah. I'm chilling in here. Shout out Trey Young. And then point it up like get high. For game?
Starting point is 01:28:28 Absolutely. I wish Katelyn Clark gets back or I can't feel my face. I can't feel it. She gonna do it. Nah. I don't think she gonna let that shit go. I don't think she gonna do it. I'ma just be honest.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Yo, what's that shit? I did. Yeah, if she does that, the world is gonna explode. That hand was cold. It was controversial. No, no. Lex, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 01:28:44 it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's honest. No, I didn't. Yeah, if she does that, the world is gonna explode. It was controversial. No, no, so Lex, it's... Kayla Clark did the smartest thing that she could have ever done. She let that shit go. She was... People didn't know, like, when did she blow up? One, she was hated.
Starting point is 01:29:00 So her injuries, her and we're, like, on the same level of... One was antics, one was just hated. Like, people don't realize that the South Carolina and when she turned and did one of those, she wasn't actually liked. What happened is, when she got hit with her own shit,
Starting point is 01:29:18 I'm pretty sure her and her group said, don't ever do it again. Don't ever do it again. You're the victim now. Be the victim. Stay the victim. And just ride off into the sun. And she never did it again. Don't ever do it again. You're the victim now. Be the victim. Stay the victim. And just ride off into the sunset. She never did it again. She's saving it. I mean, it's Reese. It's going to happen to W.
Starting point is 01:29:33 The way Ava Reese did it was just like, damn. You don't want to get that shit done to you again. AAU basketball, this shit's going to be. And it's just now started. This is probably the first weekend for AAU basketball. And you know I'm coming in with. And it's already started, man. I'm coming in with fatigue. I'm going to be on some bullshit.
Starting point is 01:29:51 I'm coming in fatigued and a helmet. So when I see a kid do it, I'm going to put this shit on, ducks for cover. I'm going to just be a part of it. So we saw Kalina Smith do it, but she actually did that in response. Jersey Robinson hit a jumper on the play prior to that, and her whole bench did it. Wait, wait, Jersey, the whole bench did it? And then Kalina came back down and did it in response to that.
Starting point is 01:30:11 We didn't see that in the clip. These kids creative, man. You say these kids very creative. They ain't got nothing for time to make TikTok. Y'all are all too small. Y'all are all little. The league step in and intervene, they just got to take the L on this one and be like, look, y'all...
Starting point is 01:30:27 After his explanation, what can they do? That's the point. I love you better. It's better than... Come up with a list and say these celebrations are done.
Starting point is 01:30:37 That's the best way to do it. And then the down thing about this is he's a really fucking good basketball player, right? And at one point, people were saying that he could have been the face of the NBA because of his skill set. And it's getting overshadowed by all this other bullshit at times.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Okay, let's see this. Let's step back. If a reporter who gets irritated by it, if they never say anything, does anybody ever make it a big deal? No, right? About what? The celebration? Any celebration he does.
Starting point is 01:31:16 It doesn't be... No one in the crowd or anyone's writing... What moment did it become involved in? It's someone who writes it and make it a big deal. When he did it to Buddy. That's when it turned into something crazy. It looked like he wanted to really shoot Buddy. That's why.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Buddy shot him. Buddy would. Like, if you look. Motherfucker, like, all right, nigga, I see you're on game. Nigga, like. Buddy was holding it like, no. No, what's so funny is, I was watching the video. Buddy is literally, like, because Jimmy Bullard,
Starting point is 01:31:41 Jimmy Bullard ain't shot. And Buddy is holding this shit. Like, he's sitting there doing this. When John did it back, Buddy looked Butler ain't shot. And Buddy is holding this shit. He's sitting there doing this. When John did it, Buddy looked like he got shot. No, but what I'm saying is Buddy looked like he got shot. He looked like he got shot. Buddy was like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:31:52 You got to look. No, that's what I'm saying. You got to look at Buddy first. You better wear your bulletproof jacket. All day. See, Dre was like, you see him? I'm killing him after this. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Buddy was old. Listen, Buddy was old. Can we just have one night without no violence? That shit was funny. Have one night where nobody get hurt? One night nobody get hurt. He's shooting. He's shooting.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Nigga. No, everybody stop. He's supposed to be. Brothers. You trying to kick knowledge, nigga? It's going to end. The times we live in. I'll take a double burger. Yeah, everybody actually is just going to be here. The times we live in. I'll take a double burger with 10.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Not a double cheeseburger. Everything is always going to be 10, man, no matter what it is. Unless he wins. Especially if there's some type of country. It's going to always be 10, man. So you said Ja trying to be the face of the league, but you said in the past that you think there's still a world where Ja can be the face of the league because the kids are basically saying, we rock with John. We don't care what
Starting point is 01:32:45 y'all say. At the end of the day, the dollar is the most important thing. So if John's moving units, but to what detriment, though? I hear you. I hear you, absolutely, but it's you look at who the league has pushed recently, right?
Starting point is 01:33:08 I'm not going to go back to Jordan and just recently who they have, other than LeBron, right? They've always had that crutch for the last 20 years, right? That they've had that crutch. Just who else have the league put out there? Just the image of those guys. Has there been anything? That's all I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Yeah. Right? I think you gotta have a crazy run. I mean the last person was what, AI? Yeah, but then not even like, but then people tend to, with some people, people memory bank is longer than others right right people are more tolerant and they more they able to forgive and forget when when when certain people are involved but doesn't winning i think do a lot to give it does absolutely so you go out and you win
Starting point is 01:33:59 on the biggest stage and you do that and there's been nothing for people to nitpick with over time. Winning solves a lot of problems. Winning solves a lot of it. But it's just like I said, it's just unfortunate the image of the gun celebration, this, that, and the third. It's ruined. No, it's the city that he lives in. Gun violence is a problem in Memphis, Tennessee. It's a real thing. It's a real
Starting point is 01:34:27 problem in Memphis. And a lot of them kids, as we've stated on this couch, like you said time and time again, Josiah, the kids rock with Jai. And if that's the case, they don't want the kids, they don't want him glorifying gun things in that city if there was a if there was another city that was the problem gun violence I'm pretty sure it'll be they would rather him going out and holding gun awareness things other than that you know sense oh it's so so you got to understand your your climate your environment and your climate, your environment, and your audience, right? Your audience is huge in this. And your audience is social media now.
Starting point is 01:35:10 It's media. It's clickbait. It's negativity. So anytime you give anybody any ammunition, any fuel, they are going to use it against you at all costs. So all I'm saying is there's a line for you young fella. Don't give him that. Continue to have fun, dude, but you got to change your own narrative, what people think and what the media has shaped you out to be. You have to do that. Being young, you don't think that city influenced him a little bit too though? Like just from... So there, but he, it can, but nobody in that city is named Ja Morant.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Yeah. It could have influenced him, absolutely, but he's on TV. He has all the... That's what I'm saying. So... He's a good man. Is that Buddy Hill? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:01 See? Oh, he was doing... He's doing, like he's holding that joint. Big? Oh, he's doing it. He's doing it. Like, he's holding that joint. Big, big joint. Look at him. I thought he was just sharing his mind. He was like that. Oh, son.
Starting point is 01:36:13 Oh, you think he got the Buddy Hill clip? Yeah, Buddy Hill. Did Buddy get in trouble for this? He's just holding it. He got a warning as well, but. Not for not a fine. He also got reintroduced to Steph Curry by his head coach, Steve Curry.
Starting point is 01:36:26 I ain't played Buddy since. Kick that. Listen, listen, listen, kick. Wait, wait. He makes it. Look. Buddy pulled that thing out on him first. Yeah. What's up? I got my shit loaded.
Starting point is 01:36:40 Muffin Q came on the... Is there a problem? Hey! Is there a problem Bring it back to the point job merely acting yourself He pulled out the imaginary finger gun on me first, sir Yeah, we got a problem. You have a right to defend yourself if somebody pulls off the imaginary finger From the imaginary finger gun?
Starting point is 01:37:06 He pulled it out on me first. What you want me to do? OK, NBA. Wrap this up. Y'all play too much. Warning, warning. How about that? Well, the camera got the conversation.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Buddy Hill, Olympic level instigator. But this, yeah, hey, it's, so that should, yeah, man, it's, like, we want you to see, young fella, but it's, you gotta, hey. Yeah. Read the room. man, it's, like, we want you to see a young fella, but you got to, hey. Read the room. Yeah, you got to, absolutely. You got to know what you're dealing with, who you're dealing with in this time, this day and age, man.
Starting point is 01:37:33 But do you feel like the damage has been done? I think Ja can still bounce back and recover from this stuff. We're talking about Olympics three years away. Yeah, he didn't kill nobody. Yeah, a lot can happen in that time. Right, he hasn't actually done anything. He's a victim of his own. Yeah, he's a victim of his own. Immaturity. Yeah, that I have been in that He's a victim of his own maturity and yeah, that's all 25 years old right now he has room to grow
Starting point is 01:37:52 So this conversation with them, that's it like remember it's like you know ones is not no one's reported is just outside Outside people looked at it and was offended that they seen it that's so it's easily erased he donates to stop gun violence he does a lot of stuff in the community to you know hold on back gun reaches and stuff like that you know that's us at the NBA is willing to trust me he is out of all the young people that's mm-hmm he can that they can erase this yeah he can he can do something he can there's nobody there's nobody that's gonna be picking it outside on this yeah from the look at
Starting point is 01:38:36 the shit Michael Vick did to get his get back trust me he went to prison for me and he made it back and they had him out there motherfucker working for goddamn SPCA at that motherfucker picking in for the dogs and shit now so you can fix it yeah like you know no no no but Nike and the NBA just sit down with him have a real conversation because if they haven't had a real conversation then you know the problem is it was nothing it, but it's the NBA overstepping their boundaries because obviously Memphis wasn't seeing a problem. Memphis didn't see a problem in the behavior.
Starting point is 01:39:19 So the NBA is like, yeah, we're stepping in because you're not going to do anything. Because Memphis ain't never had this type of hype either, though. Yeah, because it's never been, like I thought're not going to do anything. Because Memphis ain't never had this type of hype either, though. Yeah. Because it's never been, like, I thought it was detrimental to the team. It's never been detrimental to the team. It's been detrimental to the league, which they've only used this only a few times, and the few times they've used it has been Malice in the Palace, where fighting fans and police had to be involved in suits.
Starting point is 01:39:50 They used it then, detrimental to the league. And then the next time was Porter. Yeah. Wasn't it instead of Michael Porter Jr.'s brother fixing games? Yeah, I forgot about that. Right? So the feds had to come in and, you know, went to jail. That's the case right now.
Starting point is 01:40:11 That's the only time that they stepped in. They've never stepped into something that's considered like this. So it's like... Yeah, because they're trying to nip it in the bud. I know. And that's what it looks like. Because they don't want... One thing they don't want is a plastico barrier situation. Anything that right, right?
Starting point is 01:40:24 Man. You got to join the public. The bitch go off. You hit yourself. You hit somebody else. Now it's a bigger fucking problem, right? Yeah. So let's.
Starting point is 01:40:32 That's what it's more like nipping in the bud. Like Memphis, you guys are not nipping it in the bud fast enough. So we're going to come in and strong on. I got a question. So was the Denver situation. What he got. So the gun. So he got in the gun when it so he got in trouble For having a gun in the strip club in Denver, right? Yeah, was this during the summer? No season
Starting point is 01:40:55 That's what I'm trying to get at right so he so he took the joint with him on the road That's what they're trying to find out or somebody Flew somebody else probably flew there. Or they were just available in... I'm just saying. No, no, no. So what happened is... How are you going to get it on the plane?
Starting point is 01:41:10 We go through security. No, no, no. No, but okay, so... Do you think they checked the... They don't check the bags we put under the plane. Yeah, they do. No, they don't. No, they don't.
Starting point is 01:41:21 No, they don't. They don't check the bags you put under the plane. And that's why... Never. And that's why. Never. From experience. I'm telling you something. I lived in Dallas and Denver and out here, they ain't checking the bags we put under the plane, trust me.
Starting point is 01:41:36 I ain't playing no more. You know how much weed I brought? Oh yeah, yeah. Allegedly. Not for sure. A visionary, if you will. Oh my yeah. Allegedly. No, for sure. Statue of Libertation. Not for sure, yeah. A visionary, if you will. No, we can't do nothing. Both play. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Both play. You don't think they're checking pounds. God damn it. They're checking. What is wrong with you? Listen, no. Hold on. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 01:41:54 Listen. I wasn't. All right, let's talk some basketball. Tell it. All right. I was transporting the sport. Trust me. Don't get me but.
Starting point is 01:42:00 They ain't checking. A visionary. No. I thought about it. I'm like, so that's the thing, right? I'm going to wait. Did he take the pistol on the team playing with him? That's the issue.
Starting point is 01:42:07 OK. Now, what you're saying is exactly why they suspended him. Stepped in, right? Because what happens is you're investigating him on the NBA don't give a fuck he was in a strip club with a gun. That's not their issue. Because obviously, the police didn't step in. So because the police was like, well,
Starting point is 01:42:26 this is an open carry state. We don't give a shit, right? The NBA was like, wait a minute. You on the road. How did you get it there? Mm-hmm. Right? That's what I thought. So what ends up happening is they want to say, all right.
Starting point is 01:42:43 You don't want to hide it. You don't know now, we seen it, it's there, and we're gonna just suspend you for the fuck of it. Detrimental. Because what happened is it's illegal. Because in their eyes, you brought that motherfucker when they take the plane.
Starting point is 01:42:58 And it's illegal to use the NBA plane, bus, arena, for weapons, and the NBA plane is arena for weapons. And the NBA plane is part of their property, so you had to bring it on there. No, I didn't. Yeah, you did. No, you didn't. Well, we're going to suspend you anyway. Fuck it. Until you tell us how you got it there. And that was
Starting point is 01:43:18 the problem. So they didn't suspend them for the gun itself. It's how did you bring it. Yeah, because the one in the car... When you asked me, was it unfair? That was the reason. It's because I know what you're suspending them for.
Starting point is 01:43:33 And it's because you just said, hey, I think you used the plane, and that's what I'm suspending you for. Well, thinking is not knowing. Well, guess what? You ain't giving me no answer, God damn it, my thought is only one of them. There's a lot of motherfuckers in prison.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Man, fuck this, man. They ain't had to prove at all, trust me. Hey, I think you did it, so guess what? Until you prove me wrong. Until you prove me wrong, I think you did it. Show me it so I can see who was registered. Nike did the same thing. They tried to fix when D-Lo, like, they
Starting point is 01:44:02 had a commercial D-Lo. The Foot Locker commercial, yeah. They just do the same thing about the job. So let's move around and talk about something else now. Okay. Let's move around, Swaggy. Appreciate you. He did throw the phone out the window.
Starting point is 01:44:14 That was a funny thing. That's what it is. So let's talk about the top team in the NBA, the Oklahoma City Thunder. So Thunder, a team with the best record in the NBA by far. Numbers they put up this season are incredible, starting with a franchise record, 68 wins. They beat opponents by an average of 13 points per game, the best point differential in NBA history.
Starting point is 01:44:33 To go along with that, they won 54 games by double digits, the most in NBA history. OKC was a dominant 29-1 against the Eastern Conference, also setting the record for most wins against an opposing conference. It is the East, though, Lexi, as we know. Here's how the number one overall seed is fair in the Eastern Conference. Also setting the record for most wins against an opposing conference. It is the East, though, Lexi, as we know. Here's how the number one overall seed has fared in the playoffs recently. So these are results for teams
Starting point is 01:44:53 with the best record in the NBA since 1999-2000 season. So eight NBA champions, one loss in the NBA Finals. Can you guess what that one team is? That's Golden State Warriors. Oh, yeah. What happened in that?
Starting point is 01:45:04 3-1? They were leading, and then... that? 3-1, they were leading and then... That was that record year, right? It says NBA Finals. Dallas is the last. It was, it was. Had a 3-1 lead, out there winning a chip, then LeBron, LeBron. Seven lost conference finals, eight lost in the second round.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Only three of those teams lost in the first round. Wait, you said since the 99-2000 season? I think they're going to lose in the second round. I think they're getting to the conference finals. I think. So. Conference finals. Conference finals. Obviously, they don't know who their opponent is just yet.
Starting point is 01:45:37 But what percent chance do you give the Thunder to reach the NBA finals? We don't know who the 1-8 is, but looking beyond that. To reach the finals. I give them zero. I think they do. I'm about8 is, but looking beyond that. They reached the final. I gave them zero. I think they did. I'm about to say, yeah. Zero? They reached the final? You said finals, right? The national basketball association finals. I was gonna say 1%, but... Nah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:45:53 I go 50-50. 50-50? Yeah. I don't think nobody can beat them. Bro, they don't have a good enough second option for me, man. Man, well, they... That can carry them. Because when SGA get – 70 wins down there. Brother, they already –
Starting point is 01:46:08 They already two games. Brother, they already showed you. If they don't blow that whistle for him on his fouls, it affects them really bad. They need another year. Let's just stop. He ain't getting a whistle like that. Huh? Let's just stop.
Starting point is 01:46:19 The NBA is not going to let them get to the finals. Why? Nobody want to see that. They going to play – Did you see the jersey themselves? Nobody want to see that. It changes. I mean, it changes.
Starting point is 01:46:30 It looked like there's nice two jersey teams that will be great in the finals. You know the Lakers are good. It looked like there was a Laker one. That's why I said 55. And it looked like there was a green one. But he was still top 10. 55.
Starting point is 01:46:39 It looked like it was a Laker jersey. They going to play the Warriors anyway. Two of them. And then there's some green ones. and it was one like at five, and it was one at the end. We see your little black ass down there, y'all. We see you. We see you creeping in the goddamn 10.
Starting point is 01:46:53 We see your little black ass down there. The Lakers going to get them out of here. We see you, Jalen Brown. The Lakers going to beat them in five. So when OKC beat the Warriors first round, what you going to say? First of all, the Warriors are going to win tonight. The Warriors are going to play Houston. And they're going to play Houston. The Warriors are playing for the seven seed against Houston.
Starting point is 01:47:09 First of all, they beat Memphis tonight. No. See what I got on, right? You see what I got on? They beat them already in the play-in. They know how to beat the Warriors in the play-in. Listen, they're not going into the... They beat them in the play-in.
Starting point is 01:47:18 They're not going into the Warriors play-in. They beat them in the play-in. What are y'all talking about? No, they're not going to Oakland. Thank you. There was a team that beat them before that to send them to play. Listen, they are not going into the championship for a year. Houston and Warriors is a to Oakland. Thank you. There was a team that beat them before that to send them to play. Listen, they are not going to the championship. Houston and Warriors is a great match.
Starting point is 01:47:27 I can. And Ja and Shea is a great match. Clippers. Oh, yeah. No, they played. Ja and Shea is a great match. And Golden State versus Houston is a great match because of what happened. They already got the little beef.
Starting point is 01:47:41 So you get them to play and then you get Ja and Shea. We got exciting basketball. That means the whole West is banking. They already got the little beef. Right, so you get them to play, and then you get Ja and Shay. We got exciting basketball. That means the whole West is banking. That's going to be all kind of good. They're going to stay up for those. You want to bet tonight that. Two shots.
Starting point is 01:47:53 Two shots. Two shots. Yeah, we bet two shots tonight. So without this 9 and 10 playing bullshit, you have it. Right now. Huh? Exactly. See?
Starting point is 01:48:02 Right, they're messing. If you don't have the 9 and 10, you already got your match. What is Dallas and Sacramento playing for? Yeah. Huh? Exactly. See? Right. If you don't have the 9-10, you already got your matchup. What is Dallas and Sacramento playing for? To play? For Niko's pro. They got to play his pride. I don't know why they're playing.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Is this an extra check? We don't know. It wasn't in when we played it. It's not a playoff check. You got to play in? They playing just to play. They both ain't going. Both teams ain't getting in.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Why we got to watch it? We don't. Right. Put the TV off. Why they got to? Yeah They both ain't going. Both teams ain't getting in. Why we got to watch it? We don't. Right, put the TV off. Why they got to? Yeah, put the TV off.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Turn the TV off. Just tell us the result. Right? Turn the TV off. Like Lexi said, put it in the gym. Just tell us the result. Man, put that shit on Tubi, man. Nobody give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:48:40 Put that shit on Tubi, dawg. No, don't even put it on there. It don't even matter. And that shit could be produced by Marcus Houston and Chris. Somebody can fuck around and not make the playoff. You know what it'd be sweet. Put it on Tubi and let Marcus Houston produce it. Great point, Lex.
Starting point is 01:48:53 Lock him in the gym and tell us the result. You know what'd be the funny thing? If seven wins and becomes seven, eight wins and becomes eight, and then those two teams say, what the fuck did we do this for when this is where we were anyway? That's what's going to happen. Wait, what happened last year? Who?
Starting point is 01:49:10 Memphis, did they lose? Memphis will be playing OKC first. But they could lose to Sacramento though. I think Grizzlies might be the only nine to do it because they beat the Warriors that year. Lakers-Warriors 2021 for 7-8. Lakers beat the Warriors. You remember, Bron died to Steph's eye.
Starting point is 01:49:26 And then the Warriors lost to the Grizzlies to finish ninth. Because 7-8 is playing an extra game just to finish 7-8. Two shots or three now? That's what I said.
Starting point is 01:49:34 We have two shots. I hope it finishes and they say, we played two extra games. The Warriors are going to beat Memphis. And then they got to play like the next day, right?
Starting point is 01:49:41 And then Memphis got to play another game. Yeah. So Memphis is going to play OKC first round. The Warriors are going to play. To finish where you started. That's where they are right now. That's where they are right now.
Starting point is 01:49:53 Wait, wait. I bet you another one. That's going to happen. This is already the bet. That's crazy, right? No, no, no. No, the bet is that. Memphis got to play two games and then go finish where they started.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Two games to finish eighth. Two games to finish eighth. This is fucking crazy. But they have to. They going to finish where they started. Two games to finish eighth. Two games to finish eighth. This is fucking crazy. But they have to handle their business. Like, it makes sense, OK. Or play one game to finish seventh. If you wanted to do something, like, just have seven and eighth play for seven and eighth.
Starting point is 01:50:19 Best two out of three, or who gets seven spot? If you want to do something creative, nine and 10 shouldn't even be involved. Just say, all right, seven and eight, we don't know who's really better
Starting point is 01:50:28 between you two. Best two out of three. Or let eight and nine play for eight. Like I said, if eight and nine, only way nine should come in any play
Starting point is 01:50:37 if eight and nine have the exact same break. That's all. And they play best two out of three. They 41 and 41. Let them motherfuckers play it out. Yeah, it should be a cap.
Starting point is 01:50:47 10, you was horse shit all year. Let's get back to the Thunder, though, for just a moment. So I asked you guys, what percent chance do you give the Thunder to reach the NBA Finals? Gil, you said 0%. I said 0%. Mr. B, you gave them a 1% chance, slightly higher than Gil. Swaggy, you said 50-50. I believe him. Kenyon, you did 50-50. I believe in them.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Kenyon, you did not give us a percentage. They got some shit to show you. Come on, Kenyon. You said eight teams with the best record have made it to the finals? Yes. At least the finals? In 25 years. 25 years.
Starting point is 01:51:17 In 25 years. Nine teams have reached the finals. Eight teams. Like 38%. Eight teams has won it. Yeah, one team did not win it. That was the 2016 Warriors after having a 3-1 lead. So I'm going to go 20%.
Starting point is 01:51:28 20%. Warriors should have lost. I got 30%. OKC in the first place. Lexi, you're giving the Thunder a 30% chance to make the NBA finals. 35. So nobody on this couch is giving them that.
Starting point is 01:51:38 I'll go 60% then. Regular 60 or rolling? While we give the percentage. Sweetie. The percentage says. So that mean you don't believe in Lakers? The percentage says only, yeah. I do, but that's the only reason I'm being a little optimistic.
Starting point is 01:51:52 He's being the Lulu. So that's 20, Gil, but you gave them zero. You're being logical. I'm being a little optimistic, and you're being the Lulu. You gave them the Lulu. The only way they don't get to it is the Lakers win. If the Lakers lose, they get there. Even if the Lakers lose, they the Lakers lose they get there even if the Lakers even if the
Starting point is 01:52:05 Lakers nobody else can make them I'm sorry. Nobody else can beat them. So can you said 20 but you said zero? As in absolutely no no chance because he better know that that y'all gonna play them in the second round and y'all which is fine It's a very reasonable assessment. So he's been a true Laker fan. Oh, because if they get to the second round, they play. If he's been a true Lakers fan. No, wait. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Yep. When they get to the second round, they got to play the Lakers. And Luke go up. Western Conference final. And LeBron gonna smack that ass. You have to play them in the Western Conference final. Yeah, we're three, so we'll play two.
Starting point is 01:52:37 So we'll play Golden State or Houston. No, they'll play in the Western Conference. And then in the Western Conference finals, there'll be the potential to be in the under. I thought they didn't play in the Lakers. Yeah, OK. But yeah, 0% as a Laker fan. Being the Western Conference finals, there'd be the potential. Yeah, okay. But yeah, 0% as a Laker fan. Being the Western Conference champion and reaching the NBA finals.
Starting point is 01:52:50 Personally, this is why. Whoever they play first round, okay, right? You got Golden State, Memphis or Sacramento, okay, whatever. Your second round, you got- Clippers or Denver, right? Which is going to be a good series, which the Lakers, hopefully we have Houston. Yeah, I'll take that. 4-1, 4-2 if the NBA wants to extend it, right? Underdog does have their extended promo.
Starting point is 01:53:35 But think how much energy OKC will have to use to get out of the series. Against Denver Clippers. So meeting up in the Western Conference Finals, you got one who's basically limping into that motherfucker. That's what I'm looking at. I'm looking at that second round matchup. Who will have the easiest matchup?
Starting point is 01:53:55 And the fact that you got Denver or Clippers, that's going to push... Clippers beating the Lakers? No, no, no. I got the Clippers beating Denver. Me too. First round. Then you have Shea versus James Harden. Jesus, I mean, with Kawhi. You really have, that's going to be a battle.
Starting point is 01:54:11 Yeah. That's going to be a battle. I like that. That last game that they played against the Warriors. That's what I'm saying. See, the thing, the difference is. They don't have a big. That's the difference, dog.
Starting point is 01:54:23 Vincent Zubach, he, listen, he's going to have to not be in foul trouble. That's when they're at their best when he's on the floor, right? Lobbed threats after James. James is at his best when he's on the floor, right? James has been going crazy, too. And Kawhi. They're a very good team with Zubach on the floor, absolutely. He has to stay out of the foul. They explode.
Starting point is 01:54:47 They explode. And Ben Simmons at the five playing the point. I forgot he over there, too. Like, he can play the five and play the point. And when he's at the point, them dribble hands off, them random screens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, because if Yoki's just going to sit in that lane,
Starting point is 01:55:03 man, you better drive at that motherfucker, hand off, set some screens right there for James Harden, and get them 15-footers. Like, you really have to. But the thing is about the game plan, they're going to have him up. Like, just watch Nikola, dog. People think he's lazy, man.
Starting point is 01:55:18 For all night, though? For all night, though? Not lazy, but he's not fast enough. He's not fast, but he's going to be up, though. I'm going to tell Ben Simmons, hey, listen, this is your White Howard moment. We need you for this round. We don't need you for the first round. We don't need you for the Western Conference.
Starting point is 01:55:36 This round right here, you can be the offsetter here. Yeah, that happens right there. Right? You can be the offsetter here. If we win the championship, it's because of what you did in this round right here. Right? You can be the off-setter here. This is your, if we win the championship, it's because of what you did in this round right here. That does happen. I did.
Starting point is 01:55:49 You could have told me that against Houston. He didn't tell you shit. Shut up. Ha, ha, ha. He didn't tell you shit. You wouldn't have run. I never told me a round. I'm going to let you live.
Starting point is 01:55:59 You never told me. I never had a coach come in here. They going to stumble into this shit. They going to stumble into this shit. They going to stumble into this shit. I'm letting you live. I want to tell you about the championship. You're not involved. You're not involved.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Hey, Coach Steve Kerr told me this. We have NBA champions. Why are you putting Nick Young on the couch? Let me see what you had. Let me see what you had. All right, please, let's move it. Let's keep it moving forward. Let's keep it moving forward.
Starting point is 01:56:21 It must have been your best. Was this your best series? Talk about this number under squad top team in the entire NBA 68 wins franchise record Why do you think this Thunder squad is being treated like fool's gold by everybody? They have playoff experience team in NBA They got Harkestan and you know, yeah, they're just the youngest team in the NBA right now. That's his name, man. Chad Hologram. That's all. They're young.
Starting point is 01:56:51 Yeah, that's it. But their future is bright. Alex Caruso in the championship exchange. Kind of. If they can keep them together. Why, because they can't afford everybody? Yeah, exactly. But what about all the draft capital that they have? So you think this is another situation like with Katie and them?
Starting point is 01:57:05 You got to have money to pay the people you got. Yeah, but I'm saying. Yeah, you can use all the draft picks you want. You got motherfuckers up at the same time. That's the only bad part about young teams being successful. You can look at Blazers. You can say, all right, all you young guys, y'all all ain't helping us be successful.
Starting point is 01:57:24 So I can get you in a deal So I can get you in a deal. I can get you in a deal. And then whatever y'all growing to, we cool. Them, they're all helping for the success. So they're all going into free agency life. So what this is, is it's a high school team. They all come in as freshmen. Yep.
Starting point is 01:57:39 All come in as freshmen. They all come in as freshmen. Win state championships. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. By the time they seniors, you're like. Motherfucker done left.
Starting point is 01:57:47 You got one left. I need my own team, man. You holding me down, bro. But is there a way for them to still establish a pipeline of getting more young guys in, or will they always be stuck in that trap of just having young players that get too good and now we got to move on? If this was a big city, I mean, godmit they gon they they're figuring they gon figure it
Starting point is 01:58:07 Out but the fact that they are in okay And it's a smaller market team you don't have to pay shade the bank this summer Check can ask for money Jalen Harkin sign already Who else did I pay so far? Nobody, right?
Starting point is 01:58:29 I paid Dort. That was probably that Dort payment was probably the one that kind of crunched him a little bit. Because you had to keep him. Because you had to keep him at that time. Now you have Jalen Williams who's going to be up.
Starting point is 01:58:44 He's going to want the rookie, Max. He deserves it. He's an all-star. What are you? Because you can't wait next year for him because it goes up. So you're going to have to do that 150 they're trying to do right now with... Chet might be out there. Chet might be out.
Starting point is 01:59:00 And you can't... Not for real. No, no. And that's the fucked up part because Chet is like... Yeah. It ain't because he ain't good. fucked up part. Because Chet is like. Yeah. It ain't because he ain't good.
Starting point is 01:59:07 It's just. Because Chet is going to hold a hostage. Because whatever you try to offer Chet this year, he's going to say, nah, these ain't my real numbers. Yeah. These ain't my real numbers. Nah, nah, nah. Unless you offer him something right now.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Unless you give me the Rookie Max. So you're going to have to give Jaylen Williams Rookie Max and Chet Rookie Max and sign Shade to the Super Max. Yeah. Chet might max, and sign Shade to the super max. Yeah, Chet might be the odd guy out. Which is okay. I can find another Chet. Nah, hell no, you can't. Or can you find another Jalen Williams? But that's the problem. You can find another Jalen Williams.
Starting point is 01:59:35 But that's what I'm saying. The problem is they're all... But do you want that? Nah, you can't find another Jalen. I mean, we gotta make a decision. I mean, do we want to stay with our big, or do we want to stay with our big or do we want to stay with our guard? What you get more out of? What you get more out of? Hardenstein or Chet?
Starting point is 01:59:54 Chet? I'm taking him. Chet been hurt and he on his rookie deal. I don't know. What do you get more production out of? I think Hardenstein. What is Dort on? I ain't seen Chet healthy yet.
Starting point is 02:00:02 Back in the piece. So Lou Dort is under contract. He's got a team option in 2026. So he's under contract for $18 million next season and a team option for $18 million in 2026. But that's what I'm saying. You got two people who's going to. Hardenstein got a team option.
Starting point is 02:00:16 You know what I'm saying? He's thinking a lot, isn't he? So Hardenstein, yeah, I think he signed like the three for 75, if I'm not mistaken. Yes, he did. See that? But the problem is like. Three for what? 75.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. So what happens he did say that. But the problem is like, what? 75. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. So what happens is Shay's going in there asking for the super max. Well, he ain't asking for shit. No. Motherfucker, you can, hey. Now you got these three.
Starting point is 02:00:33 You can go on and count that against your books. No, you can listen. He fired his agent, so he's like, he's up for the retirement. You might as well go on and count that against your books. Now you got two. Now you got two. You got two who on their third, who's finishing their third year.
Starting point is 02:00:43 History says, lock them in now. Because you want an all-star. Because you want an all-star. You don't want them going into the following year. So you want to lock their asses right now. You don't want them to go finish their fourth year. Now he's like, all right, 285 and 250. Make an all-NBA team, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:59 Tyrese Mack. Chet not better than Harkinstein? Yeah, you got a Tyrese Mack to that motherfucker, huh? Chet not better than Harkinstein? Not yet. Notine? Not yet. Not yet? Not yet. I mean, he hasn't.
Starting point is 02:01:08 He's been hurt. He's hurt his first year, had a decent second year, has been hurt this year. So the best person, if I'm going to sign one, I'm going to try to see if I can scare the fuck out of him to get him to sign some bullshit. Get him a hundred. Oh, let me give you a two-year.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Let me give you a two-year 75 extension right now. OK, Harkestine. OK, Harkestine. Harkerstein averages 11 and 4. 11, 11, and 4 this season, double-double. Three times more than that. I mean, that's why I mean, Harkerstein is worth his money. With a healthy Chet, that's 15, 17. And Chet?
Starting point is 02:01:37 Harkerstein can go, whatever. 15, 8, and 2 blocks. He can get the fuck on. 15, 8, and 2 blocks. Because this is when. So you have him at the lowest number. So you sit here and say, yeah, let me give you four year for 80. Four year for 80.
Starting point is 02:01:50 You're going to be like, man, if y'all don't kiss half my black ass, because you know I'm half black. Because I can tell you right now, I can tell you right now, whatever Jalen Williams signed for, Chet is looking at the same thing. Yeah. Without the All-Star. I don't give a fuck what that All-Star is. Man.
Starting point is 02:02:08 I just know Chet. I'm the number one pick, and my trajectory says this, so I want at least close to it. Right. And that's the fucked up part. It's like Houston, right? You got Houston with both of them up at the same time. Sanguni.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Sanguni was there, but they have a She shade signing for the supermax in the same summer Mm-hmm break bread as the young kids. So that's timing. Well, let's give that. Yeah, it's bad timing. Yeah, let's keep this moving Let's move over achieving. Huh? Oh, okay See what people thought or a be praised you're overachieving. Yeah I usually don't be the best usually just don't happen for two straight years. Y'all thought that when they all came in? Well, I'm a hater, so I did not. No, no one thought that. You ain't got to be a hater now.
Starting point is 02:02:50 That's why people don't believe. Going from 10 to 1 to 1. That's why I'm saying. You can't say that. That's why they got 0%. People don't believe because you're saying it. I got 0% because I got Lakers. That's why I got 0%.
Starting point is 02:03:03 I got 50%. You said 60, ho. I said 50. You did jump it up to 60. You said it was a rolling 60. I was saying next year, I know the Lakers will win. It depends on how the Lakers play this year. It really does.
Starting point is 02:03:15 You didn't believe until the Lakers this year like that. I believe every year. I do, but I believe more next year than this year. That's why I believe. Next year, I might just pre year than this year. That's why I get it. Next year? Next year, I might just pre-get a tattoo. Another one. A trophy tattoo for Gil.
Starting point is 02:03:30 I might just get another tattoo, another LA tattoo. The Lakers 2026 championship. That's why I did that. That's why I did that. That's the only reason I did that. All right, well, let's. Depends on how the Lakers play. I mean, I might have a Mount Rushmore,
Starting point is 02:03:41 and it just might be one motherfucker on it. Luka! Well, let's shift over to the WNBA. Mikey, Luca. Because I got black. Listen, I got black Rushmore right here. I got some black people right here. I could put a white man over here.
Starting point is 02:03:53 He's European, so it don't really count. Luca. You know, I don't know if Negro, Black America really count Europeans, because it wasn't part of this shit. It looked black on your screen. It wasn't part of this shit that happened to us here. You know, they was on their own shit. So I black on your screen. It wasn't part of this shit that happened to us here. They didn't own no shit. They was on their own shit,
Starting point is 02:04:06 so I can put them on here and probably get away with it. Let's shift over to the WNBA. So yesterday was a WNBA draft, and Paige Beckers went first overall to the Dallas Wings, as expected. Lexi Seattle Storm had the second pick and went with Dominique Malanga out of France. Tony Parker has called her
Starting point is 02:04:28 the female version of Victor Wimbanyama and it's because she can do things like this. Oh, there it is. Rather easy. Oh my God. Yo. She was dunking. No word of Hakeem Olajuwon will be working for her. That appears to be a legal basketball move.
Starting point is 02:04:50 I remember when that video first came out. I was like, oh, shit. She was one of two players in the French League last season, average 15 and 10. But, Lexi, how happy are you with the Storms first round draft pick? Very happy. We saw you smiling earlier in the show, glowing, if you will, radiating. I mean, I hope she comes over and plays, because sometimes the younger players don't come over.
Starting point is 02:05:10 So I'm hoping that she actually is going to come and play, because I've never played with a player like that before. 19 years old. I bet you have. I haven't. No. Shit. That's impressive.
Starting point is 02:05:23 I mean, I'm not talking about just the dunking, but just the. 6'6". Yeah, like, yeah. But I played with a 6'6". I played with Liz. She's big. Oh, yeah. Who's the tallest of you?
Starting point is 02:05:34 I played with Liz. She's mine. Yeah. Who's the tallest? Was Liz the tallest? It was Liz. And I was PG. So yeah, I played with her.
Starting point is 02:05:42 PG's how big? 6'9". She's same size as Liz. Wait, she's what? 6'8"? She's 6'8", too. She's like same size as Liz. She's done. you. She's how big six nine. She's same size She's six eight two like same size She's big So yeah, I play with the big Blair Liz and it didn't look like that. So I'm excited. Yeah, I'm really excited Nineteen years old on the pick and roll, nigga. She going in there, motherfucking, dunking that bitch with two hands, all that.
Starting point is 02:06:07 Yeah. Yeah. Only 19 years old. Do you expect her to come over and play this season or stay in France? I mean, based on how she was talking in the draft last night, she seemed excited to come over here. Seattle, a fine city.
Starting point is 02:06:20 Yeah. So she's been playing pro for a few years doing well she i don't see why she wouldn't come over here french league is over i think or will be soon so yeah how does she play in olympics i don't know the fact that she was on the team is a kid yeah 18-old kid, the fact that she's on that Olympic line. Why does she get to come out early? Who? Why does she get to come out at 19? Because the WNBA sold, they sold long time ago. So she played seven minutes?
Starting point is 02:06:53 Well, that's the thing. This year, the last two years, they've drafted a lot of young European players. So I feel like if that starts happening, they're going to have to rethink that rule. I was wondering that as I'm seeing her 19 years old being able to go to the WNBA. Because a lot of them don't come over. The NBA sold the one and done for extra free time on vacation. But a lot of them don't come over.
Starting point is 02:07:14 So if they start coming over at the younger age, then they're going to have to rethink the rule. But if I'm a top American player, why not just go get European citizenship and renegotiate the system? You have to be born overseas. No, you don't. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 02:07:27 I almost got citizenship over there. No, no, no, to enter the draft early. Oh, no. No, so to enter the WNBA draft, you have to be born overseas. Oh, yeah, to go early, but... You have to... You can go play pro, though.
Starting point is 02:07:39 No, but you can still go play pro. You have to be born... Okay, first of all, what we're talking about is enter the WNBA draft. You have to be born. Okay, first of all, what we're talking about is enter the WNBA draft. You have to, for the American girls here, they have rules here. Yeah, you have to be born and reside outside the U.S. Yeah, you have to be born there. But they're making money now here, obviously.
Starting point is 02:07:57 But before that, no one was stopping players from going overseas. Yeah, you can go over there and play, but for you to be, for you to enter the WNBA at 19, you have to be born overseas. Doesn't seem fair, but that's neither here nor there. But that's, the older players here, the older players here didn't fear, no, they didn't fear those girls. So they, they, they was cool with that. They feared their American girls taking their spots. So they put a handicap on it by you got to go to school, get your degree, that dumb shit. They was cool with that. They feared their American girls taking their spots. So they put a handicap on it by, you got to go to school, get your degree, that dumb shit.
Starting point is 02:08:30 So that's what handicapped American girls. Not dumb shit. No, I'm just saying that language. Because, you know, you play in the WNBA for 10 years with a degree. When you finish, that degree ain't worth shit. Because now you need, what do they call that? What do they call it when you need a job? Networking? No, no, no, no. do they call it when you need a job? Networking?
Starting point is 02:08:45 No, no, no. You know, like when you're not overqualified, but you need experience. And this 10 years, you got this. That seemed like an easy word. No, no, no. No, you got this. I thought he was about to say something profound. No, he was fucking with you.
Starting point is 02:09:00 It was an easy word. I wanted you to say it. You got this 10 years ago with no experience? Yeah. You outdated. 10 years ago with no experience? Yeah. You outdated. That's what happened. Oh, man. But the more that they're going to keep drafting them.
Starting point is 02:09:14 Yeah, they're going to have to. That's the only way. They got to come over, though. They just can't draft. They got to come over and play. They got to actually come and play. Because historically, it's been a lot of drafting and stashing. I dove into that
Starting point is 02:09:27 and looked through all the rules. But still, though, that's still a roster spot that could have went to a college girl that a lot of them, a lot of college players that I thought were going to get drafted did not get drafted
Starting point is 02:09:39 and they picked European players the last two years that happened. Will they still get their money when they don't come over? No. Their contracts get suspended. Even in the NBA on years that happened. Will they still get their money when they don't come over? No. Their contracts get suspended. Even in the NBA, I'm talking about.
Starting point is 02:09:48 Yeah, no. Like, when they draft people, they don't bring them over? No, not till they come, right? Not till they come. No, they got to come play. Like, your kids got drafted, didn't come over the first year. You got to come get that check. You got to show up to work.
Starting point is 02:09:58 Draft you? They have your rights. They can hold your rights. And then they suspend the contract. Yeah, they don't know what they're doing. But they have your rights. They contract to come play. They don't need to draft you all you want.
Starting point is 02:10:12 Because most of the Europeans, what they're doing is they're entering their name in a draft, wanting to be drafted so they can negotiate with their team over there. Shit, the NBA team want me, the WNBA team. Yeah, yeah. What you got? Well, the Valkyries, they got, like, a ton of European players on that team. All young. Yeah, so I'm, like, I'm actually excited to see how they look because we've never seen that before in the W.
Starting point is 02:10:32 So many on one team. So it's going to be interesting. So, Lexi, what else stood out to you from the WNBA draft last night? I think that this is the first year that there's a lot of... Jokic did fuck you up. What? I'm sorry. I just said that Jokic got drafted and then... And didn't come over?
Starting point is 02:10:51 ...come over to the following year. There's like a lot of spots. So that's never really happened before. There's a whole new team. There's a lot of roster spots to be made. So I think this rookie class can come in and stick on these teams and find a role. And then I think this was like one of the most intentional drafts I've seen. Okay.
Starting point is 02:11:10 Because a lot of these rookies are going to be locked in with the old CBA also. So I think these... We saw some players saying, fuck it, I'm just going to stay in college. Right. So that bag increases. Which is smart, but is it? Because now these European players are coming over here. I know black. You know, I got us. It's interesting to see how that dynamic shifts We got more expansion teams coming though Yeah
Starting point is 02:11:34 I mean you talk previously about just how cut the other league and you got draft picks don't even make the time I just feel like the vibes is my it's gonna be a little bit better too because it's not gonna be as It's still gonna be cutthroat and competitive, but now you have more spots more teams how many year olds at uh rockery draft uh i can't remember their first their fifth their first ever pick was a european player um i don't know who else they picked but the last two years a lot of european players maybe i'm tripping like six or seven but in the first the first round? No, I'm saying in their expansion draft? Yeah, even the players that they picked from.
Starting point is 02:12:10 They picked European players. They're all young. None of them. They've been scouting overseas like... Yeah. Hold on one. I mean, I've played over there. They're very talented over there. They just don't want to come over because the money isn't worth it to them.
Starting point is 02:12:26 Yeah, I think seven foreign players. Now the money's going to be higher. It might be more attractive. Seven foreign players in the expansion draft. So starting younger. And then a foreign player in the first round. That'll be interesting. I mean, that makes sense, though.
Starting point is 02:12:39 See what you got cracking? I mean, someone has to start doing it. You know what I mean? It makes sense because it's like, well, if I can get them at 19, right, I get three years with them before they would be draft ready as an American girl. So let's see what they look like. Yeah, so it's gonna, there's gonna be a shift. It's just a matter of when.
Starting point is 02:12:59 It's not gonna be in this CBA though, so. It has to be in this one. It's not. I know it's not. Because we have to see it. See, and that's the problem. Y'all selfish. Y'all are selfish. They holding you, holding on.
Starting point is 02:13:11 You're looking like the NBA. I need you to go one more. We gave up high school kids for an extra day. An extra day of All-Star Brady. That's crazy. Dead ass serious. Kevin Durant had to sit in college a year
Starting point is 02:13:34 because motherfucker wanted an extra day, but also 52. Was it 51-49? That was the biggest thing. That was the biggest thing. 51-49. We did all that. You can have this. What year was that? That was the biggest thing. That was the biggest thing. 51-49. I mean, we had some. But we did all that.
Starting point is 02:13:46 You can have this. Yeah. Honestly, we have. Yo, what year was that? We got the whole summer to kind of see. It was old. The lockout was old. And who was our players rep at that time?
Starting point is 02:13:55 Because they some hating ass motherfuckers. Chris Paul. Because whoever did that, they some, huh? Oh, we was all, listen, we was all happy for that. Wait, what was the decision? Like, was it literally one or the other? No, no, it was 51. 51.49 revenue split for us.
Starting point is 02:14:10 Wonder why he'll never get a ring. And we basically threw, we gave you, like, you know what? Like, appreciate the business. Yeah, it was like, we gave you, so you bought some shit from us. I'm saying when you go buy, your beauty shit from the store and they give you the gift bag. Right? $200 worth of shit, right? And they give you, here you go, they throw some better shit in your bag. Yeah. We gave it. It's not like they were arguing about it. It was on the table, but
Starting point is 02:14:38 it was $51.49. It was like, hey man, we want an extra day. We want an extra day at All-Star Weekend. God damn. Hey, we got these kids. We got these high school kids. You can make their asses go to college one more year. Sell them. Sell them. Boy, everybody was in the league that year.
Starting point is 02:14:58 Good, I'm glad we know that. That's funny. It's like, the last year was what, after LeBron? No, it was after Perkman. I remember that, because we was at NBA. what after LeBron. Yeah. No, I was after Rebecca we was a No, no Robert Swift. Oh, yeah, so the the first the first person who got fucked was Kevin Durant Yeah, he was a class for one. You know, I remember class It was all that NBA camp with Kate with Katie and them and Greg Oden Yeah, I can see I saw the looks on everybody face. It was hot. It was like, we got to go to college for a year.
Starting point is 02:15:26 It's some bullshit. We was all at NBA camp. You know, you've been to NBA camp? NBA camp was the worst shit ever. We sit there in class for hours, hours, and they just drilling us about the NBA and this and that, and then they did that fucking rule. I remember that.
Starting point is 02:15:40 We was pissed. It was like, we got to go to college. And NBA was like, shit, I get one more day. So this was the 05 CBA or no? Yeah. Okay. That way. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:49 They was pissed. We was at NBA camp like this. Because they used like no amnesty. That's when like. That 2010 or 11 shit was weak too though. That's when like I think the first amnesty kicked in. Yeah, so no lockout. Because Finley got amnesty and got his money with the San Antonio Spurs.
Starting point is 02:16:05 Yeah, it was. The lockout year was in 2011? Yeah, that shit was weak, too. Remember that lockout? That was a great lockout. Well, I still had a job. I was an intern at Under Armour. That shit was fun.
Starting point is 02:16:15 The lockout was fun, but that agreement y'all came up with. That was a great agreement. Nah. Because I got my money. I got amnesty, and I got some extra money in Memphis. That part was cool, but. That year was not good. We had three back-to-backs. Remember we had back to back to back You have to play like back to back
Starting point is 02:16:31 Never was only like What you got I got Jackson was a rapper it was crazy Got some money came back got some more money I got food. I got to sit home with my check. Met him outside. I went to China and got some money and came back and got some more money. I was at Under Armour making clothes and making shoes. Oh, yeah. I was outside. You had an Under Armour email?
Starting point is 02:16:56 I signed for three and a half in China. BJ and his shoes. I was at home. I signed for three and a half. Y'all can have this shit in China. Let me go get this Mac. For what, three months? Three months. I know.
Starting point is 02:17:07 That's it, 90 days. That shit clocking. I was home by Christmas. That's when the season started, the next day after Christmas. God is good. So we got one more thing to discuss before we get to Mostly Fans. We already talked about the Warriors-Grizzlies playing game. There's another playing game tonight on the Eastern Conference side of the bracket.
Starting point is 02:17:24 Trey Young and company facing off against Paolo Banchero in the Magic. 7-8. They split the season series 2-2 including splitting a few games early this month. The winner faces defending champion Celtics in the first round. I'm rooting for Trae Young. You want, okay Lexi is supportive of the Atlanta Hawks, Trae Young. So the winner plays the Boston Celtics. But you want those for Nefaria. I want Orlando to get A.
Starting point is 02:17:53 I want Orlando to get A. I want Orlando to beat A.C. I want to watch that series. Orlando-Boston? No, Orlando-Cleveland. Oh, that's what you said. I want Orlando to get A. Oh, because you think Orlando can beat Cleveland? No, they think they can beat Cleveland. Oh, that's what she's using. Yeah, I want Orlando to be eight. Oh, because you think Orlando can beat Cleveland? No, no.
Starting point is 02:18:05 They think they can beat Cleveland. Yeah, Orlando thinks they can. So that means that's just going to be a hard-fought series. They think. Yeah, absolutely. They think. Yeah, that's what they think. So they just going to play hard.
Starting point is 02:18:14 That's a good series. You want to see good basketball? That's a one-eight. You might get a four-one, a four-two, you know, open. But a four-one, that's a good series. Who? Because it's supposed to be four-oh. Yeah, they need to lose a 4-1 that's a good series whoo cuz it's both before Yeah, they need to lose the night. They got to play another one then win now when they see
Starting point is 02:18:41 Miami Chicago Whoever in this way, we do do not care. I'm just kidding. Adam Silver, work your magic. Gentlemen Sweep won eight. That's a good series. Rent's due. Facts.
Starting point is 02:18:51 It's one eight. The people won magic. Five games. Rent is due. Magic and Cavs won seven. Didn't they play last year? Four or five. Four or five. They won seven games.
Starting point is 02:18:59 Three, two. Neither won one at home. Yeah, that was a nasty series. That was actually a good one. But yeah, they was going at it. That, that was a nasty series. That was actually a good one. But yeah, but they was going at it. Yeah. That's what I want to say, dude. That's what we want to say.
Starting point is 02:19:11 Eating on my bucks, baby. Indiana, out of here. I don't know without Dame, huh? Nah. They whooped your ass last year. Without Dame, I don't know. They whooped your ass. Oh, they said he's going to miss the first round, didn't they?
Starting point is 02:19:22 Is it the first round? Parts of the, they just said he's not going to be available for the beginning of the first round. So that means it's possible that he can come back. He's out for the first round. If he's not playing, then I don't know. Like, is he practicing? They say he's doing basketball activities.
Starting point is 02:19:36 Ramping up is the term that we love to use nowadays. Oh, they say he's doing basketball and he's ramping up? He's doing basketball activities, but not clear to play just yet. I'm telling y'all. He might. If he missed one activities, but not clear to play just yet. I'm telling y'all, listen. OK, OK. He might. If he missed one game, I'm still going Bucs. But if he missed one game.
Starting point is 02:19:50 I still like our chances right now, especially the way Giannis has been playing. I don't know what he's on. Like Giannis on some other shit right now. I'm just be honest. I like the way he's playing. Like my last two playoff experiences. Your whole team? Oh yeah, the Porter Green.
Starting point is 02:20:01 Kevin Porter Green. He's got a lot to show. He's got a lot to prove. I'm representing for Greco-Nigeria. We ain't never had a player like Kevin Porter's here. Kevin Porter's here. He's got a lot to show. He's got a lot to prove. I'm representing for Greco Nigeria. We ain't never had a player like Kevin Porter. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Wild card. Well, we will find out tonight.
Starting point is 02:20:11 Bobby back. As a reminder, we will be. Looking strong. Shit. He better be. We will be on playback tonight. Shit, yeah. Because whatever he could have been on would have been clear by now.
Starting point is 02:20:22 Y'all want to win, man. Y'all need to put him in the starting lineup. Who? Bobby. Yeah, they got to stop fucking around. Brooke now. Y'all want to win, man. Y'all need to put him in the starting lineup. Who? Bobby. Yeah, they got to stop fucking around. Brooke Lopez. I get it, man, but this ain't the same. We'll be watching that Grizzlies-Warriors game on Playback.
Starting point is 02:20:34 Playback.tv slash Gilbert Arenas. The Club 520 crew's pulling up. Yeah, man. You got a six, man, because you got Kevin Porter as your six, man. Yeah, I know. You don't need him. You don't need a six and a seven. You don't need him in that role now. And then Derry B and a seven. So you don't need him in that role now.
Starting point is 02:20:45 And then Dairy Bird, yeah. Dairy Bird. I'm coming out. Shout out Michael Starberry. Let's move on to Mostly Fans. Presented by Underdog. Download the app, use promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pickup.
Starting point is 02:20:58 You better accept me, motherfucker. So our first. You coming home? I'm going to just know what I'm saying. I'm sorry, I don't mean to bother you. I live for these moments. Not with that little ass post you just did. You had me too. That little ass shit, that little ass shit.
Starting point is 02:21:14 That's all I got. Y'all be fucking up my promo reads. My ass shit, dude. No love shit. I be trying to tell people to download the Underdog app and use promo code Gilson, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em. I'm pretty sure he got some good ideas.
Starting point is 02:21:30 Nobody listen. He's smart enough to know what to hook on to. Y'all don't like work, I guess. You can be in the backyard. I came in, I don't want to. I ain't going to finish. I'll be done. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:21:38 You're the only one in there with his titties out. Mr. Arenas. My employer. Got me on there every time some titties out. So we got a video question from Underdog user Zadarian. Zadarian. Zadarian. Zadarian. Zad on the air every time some titties out. So we got a video question from underdog user Zadarian.
Starting point is 02:21:50 If you had social media during your prime, how do you think it would have helped or hurt your brand? So if you had social media during your prime, how would it have helped or hurt your brand? And shout out to Zadarian watching yesterday's show, if I'm not mistaken, when asking this question. I always appreciate when y'all show the show in the background, the showian watching yesterday's show, if I'm not mistaken, when asking this question. I always appreciate when y'all show the show
Starting point is 02:22:07 in the background to show that you're really loyal and dedicated to Gills Arena and presented by Hunter Dog. Woo-woo. So how would social media have helped or hurt your brain?
Starting point is 02:22:16 Social media wasn't around when I was playing. Yeah, so, would you have been posting? Do you have MySpace? Would you have been fighting people on Twitter? You didn't have a MySpace?
Starting point is 02:22:24 I was fine. I had MySpace. Facebook? I fighting people on Twitter. You didn't have a MySpace? I was fine. I had MySpace. Facebook? I was on NBA.com diary every week. That shit helped mine. He called y'all all over again. He called y'all all over again. You got a boost?
Starting point is 02:22:35 What? Doing numbers? I would have still been the same way. I wish I had the NIL. I wish I had it when I was in college though. NIL and shit. I mean, it wouldn't have been no Jill. It would have been, you know, still got a brand in. Yeah, see that's where it would have helped me. My first year when I went overseas.
Starting point is 02:22:54 If we had Instagram and all that. If I was able to put all that, like how they can do their own videos and stuff, it would have helped me out a whole lot. For sure. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't have been into it, so. Either way, so we got one more question from Underdog User KBFan24. He said, what do you think of Steve Kerr benching Jonathan Kaminga in Game 82 for a chance
Starting point is 02:23:17 at the sixth seed against the Clippers? Oh, that's why they lost. Didn't he say that he don't know how to put him back in the rotation? Didn't he say that? I'm sure he had a conversation before the game. Didn't know he wasn't going to not play him. He admitted to not knowing how to do your job well.
Starting point is 02:23:32 His minutes may be adjusted before the game. But he did the same thing. Yo, what be up with Steve Kerr? Yeah, why ain't he doing that? Yo, what be up with Steve Kerr sometimes? Like, why you say stuff like that? Like, that shit. I mean, what he said, he only liked, what, the point guards, right?
Starting point is 02:23:47 The ones and the twos. That's crazy, bro. I ain't to be crazy, but I know I know Kaminga want to rewind his life Sign that extension that he was giving you Good luck. I know I know he would have dunked that goddamn ball in overtime. I'm about to say yeah, they said She's Steph would have made that goddamn layup in overtime. The motherfucker tied the game at 121. That's for goddamn sure. Shit, it'd definitely be a threat. Because them dudes don't even be looking at the rim. They trying to keep him-
Starting point is 02:24:12 Steph going off three or four fucking screens. They trying to keep him for the load. They do do that. They did that with McCall. They doing it to you? Pat McCall. He said he was doing that months ago. They did that with Pat McCall.
Starting point is 02:24:22 Welcome to the business, man. Because this is a basketball. Welcome to the stripping business. He didn't sign that extension. He came back. Shit. It was, yeah. Welcome to the stripping business. It was doing him like, play this game, don't play that game, play me this. It was crazy. I hate how he did this.
Starting point is 02:24:34 We called this months ago, though. Huh? Huh? He said he was doing this. Did not play any finals games. Well, he not doing himself no favor by getting hurt being in and out of the lineup, neither. So if he was healthy this whole time, really forcing that dude hand right the fact that
Starting point is 02:24:49 he's been whatever the injury he's had as kept him in and out of line up throughout the season hasn't done him any favors and other players stepping up. Right now. So now he can use the I don't know how to implement it back in since we got Jimmy and this. So now he can use that because he's been out. If he was playing the whole time when they got Jimmy, then it's like, shit. Then you decide to make that decision. Like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:25:14 Like, really, Steve? And they're going to use it. They argue. He holds them a little grudge. Remember, Kaminga said, you don't know where you fit at on this team. Earlier. Earlier. So it's like, he do do that.
Starting point is 02:25:24 You fit if you sign that contract. I know what it is. You're going to be the good man. Right, I'm going to fit you. Dr on this team. Earlier. Earlier. So it's like, he do do that. He fit if you sign that contract. I know what it is. You'd have been a good hitter. Right, I'm going to fit you. Draymond, sit your ass down. I know what it fits you until you sign that contract. A DMP, healthy, name 82, with a sixth seed on the line, a chance to lose to the Lakers in the first round.
Starting point is 02:25:40 He can't position. 35. I didn't get the balance, and he did not play in the game. He just came back. No, he didn't play. He did not play in the game. He just came back. No, he didn't play. He's been playing. Yeah, what the hell. I don't need you going out there doing anything.
Starting point is 02:25:51 Steve Kerr said he had a talk with him before the game, wasn't sure how much he was going to be able to play in the game, ended up playing. But why, though? See, that's the problem. See, the thing is, why not go coach the game that you're about to coach? Right? How can you sit in that motherfucker before and be like,
Starting point is 02:26:07 you know what? I'm probably ain't going to play Jonathan today, y'all. What y'all think about that? That's a good idea, coach. Yeah. Yes, sir. Yeah, you got it. Whatever, sir.
Starting point is 02:26:15 You got it. That's sick. Right? And that's that bullshit right there, right? It's like, come on, man. Like, you could have used him. Whatever the situation was, like, you made this decision. It wasn't.
Starting point is 02:26:24 Wasn't they like, I don't know. Like, I just said, I be hating. Ain't nobody going to sit there. Ain't nobody going to sit there. on man like you could use and whatever the situation was like you'd have made this this okay if a coach came up and this is why coaches this is how this is why you should never do this if I told you you're not going to play tonight, right? Oh, shit. Right, how are you going to warm up or prepare for the game? Oh, man. Nothing. If I ain't playing tonight, I ain't even going to play. Not getting a chance, I'm not playing. Hey, ball boy, where the, hey, hey, give me the menu for the food.
Starting point is 02:26:56 He didn't tell Kermit or he wasn't playing. Yo, where the ball, hey, don't give me some PF chains. So, Benfo, why would you come tell me that? You making the change or tell me I'm not playing? But didn't tell you, he didn't say you're not playing. But didn't tell you he wasn't. He didn't say you're not playing. But now you're going to put me on radar. You put it on my.
Starting point is 02:27:08 I need a hidden coke. Yeah, a Long Island. I'm mentally not. I'm mentally done. I'm mentally done. So, now what happens is now I got to call. Hey, Kenyon, get in. This motherfucker ain't got no tape on.
Starting point is 02:27:17 He ain't warmed up. He ain't prepared. He don't give a fuck. But is that better or worse than making him think it's going to be business? I just told you. He just said he's not going to put on no tape. He's not working out. So he is not You tell me not complain that you need him and he's not ready versus a stay ready and not using them fuck stay ready You come tell me.
Starting point is 02:27:46 I'm thinking, why? We're changing the rotation. So my question is, so who else did you tell this to? If I'm the only person, that tells me one thing. He also pointed out that Santos didn't play in that game. I don't even know who the fuck Santos is. Okay, but I'm just telling you what he said. Listen, I know if you didn't tell me anything, I warmed up hard.
Starting point is 02:28:06 I went through my routine. But are you going to be salty if you do all that and don't play? I'm salty because you told me I wasn't playing, Josiah. And so therefore, if I'm prepared to play and I don't get in the first LNX, you say, oh, I'm cutting that shit off at halftime. Right, understand that after the fact? Yep.
Starting point is 02:28:22 So you at least got me to halftime. You at least got me to halftime, yeah. Before, you ain't got me. Yep. So you at least got me to halftime. You at least got me to halftime, yeah. Before, you ain't got me for shit. But he didn't tell me he wasn't playing. He said, I'm changing the routine. Basically, he did. He basically did. But you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 02:28:32 But so either way, would you be mad or doing all that work, getting ready to go, and then sitting your ass on the bench the whole time? Because by halftime, you're going to have to take it. Because anything can happen in the game. But if you tell me you're not going to play, you're not going to play that much, I'm good. You already made up your mind.
Starting point is 02:28:44 So fuck you, too. Yeah, absolutely fuck you. I've watched the bench. Yes. And I used to go like, why would you even tell him that? You know what? Let that motherfucker warm up with the rest of us. Get sweaty and shit.
Starting point is 02:28:54 Do all that extra shit he do. Go through this extra shit. Do all that. And then if you decided not to play him, then you. But if you say not play, look. Look, motherfucker took a shower already. They have to warm it up, and I come out out motherfucking eight minutes after they didn't motherfucking I didn't send it back just
Starting point is 02:29:09 Took a shower And then put all didn't put on his jersey done just put on the team shit and then the coach was like He ain't got shit on trust me. He probably got the jurors that motherfucker hanging out. He ain't got a juror He may not be very late. He's just ready to go at it. What? He already showered and everything. He don't want to put on, listen, because he can't put on the suit because he didn't bring that.
Starting point is 02:29:32 He thought he was playing. I didn't wear a team sweatsuit to the game. Please let me know before we go on this road if I'm playing or not. On that note, make sure you watch the play-in tonight. We will see. It's the Warriors or Grizzlies advance. Watch the E.K. always pre-determinate. That shit wild to me, dog. That shit weak.
Starting point is 02:29:49 Man, you think he feel. He might need to borrow the imaginary blicky from Buddy Hill. You gonna do this to me? We gonna go with McCall this week. He been kinda down. We gonna let you chill for the week. Shit like that. What the fuck that got to do with me? How the fuck? You give a fuck about him being down?
Starting point is 02:30:02 Like, are you not the game? Get yo ass up! He played good against you. are you not the game? Get your ass up. He played good against you. He said, Waterboy, wake her ass up. We got a game to win tomorrow. Listen, I want to reward Francisco. He been playing well. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:11 What? Crazy. First game, man. He been down 30. First game. Sounds like that Waterboy shit. In the playoffs? First game, 27.
Starting point is 02:30:19 Next game, he didn't play me. Said, we gonna go with McCall today. Yeah. I said, damn. He been down. He been. So now I'm down. Yeah. I said, damn. He been down. He been down. So now I'm down.
Starting point is 02:30:28 Right now I'm down. Yeah. That's that shit Pop told Steve Jackson in fucking San Antonio. He wanted him to tell somebody they was better. He was like, man, I can't do that. Got to do that right up out of there. Well, on that note, another productive day in the arena. Great to have the crew all here.
Starting point is 02:30:44 Wake her ass up. Appreciate everybody in the chat. to have the crew all here wake her ass up appreciate everybody in the chat Chad I see you asking diabolical questions I will not ask them on this show I see your thirst we'll talk about it
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