Gil's Arena - Knicks STEALING Game 1 in San Antonio STUNS The Arena

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

Knicks STEALING Game 1 in San Antonio STUNS The Arena as The Arena reacts to Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks taking care of the San Antonio Spurs in the 2nd half of Game 1 to steal home court advantage as Victor Wembanyama and Rashad McCant's Spurs could not get anything going offensively in the 2nd half which led to the Spurs dropping their first Game 1 NBA Finals loss in franchise History. They also react to the performance of Jalen Brunson who once again proved that he can be a Number 1 guy on a championship team, leading the Knicks with 30 points as well as multiple clutch buckets in crunch time. Should the Knicks be favored to win the NBA Finals after their stunning game 1 victory? Last, the crew reacts to Golden State Warriors star Stephen Curry who recently ended his sneaker free agency and took his Curry brand talents to Li-Ning on a 10-year deal. Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Skip Bayless, Swaggy P, Kenyon Martin, Brandon Jennings, Rashad McCants, & Josiah Johnson Gil's Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $50 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Start building credit with Kikoff today, and get your first month for as little as one dollar. That’s 80% off the normal price when you go to https://getkikoff.com/arena today SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Read Rashad's Blog - https://rawrashad.com/?blog=y Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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We've got an exciting show for you guys today. This is Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoop. I'm merely an award-winning host, Josiah Johnson, and we've got NBA. Champion of the world. Swaggy Pete Nick Young back here with us. Former New York Nick.

Representing Tough Crowd University, Tough Crowd Golf. Former New York Nick, Mr. B. Brandon Jennings. Back here with us. Got one of the biggest legends. That looks nice. Well, that looked nice. Thank you. One of the biggest legend of sports media games.

Skip Bayliss back in the building with us. And on this side of the couch, the distinguished gentleman from Oak Cliff, former number one pick and former New York Nick, Canyon Martin. Hey, hey. Hey, y'all. That looks nice too, that looks nice. That looks nice right there. I'm talking about.

Three's in the chat. Ladies and number three's in the chat. But not least, the man they call Cemetery Larry NCAA Champion of the World Doctor Rashah McCants, Ph.D. Looking very festive. Nah. That was easy. I know, that don't look, man. That was easy.

That don't like that. Finish him. Where's New York Knicks? Who's that? I know. What? What? He's trying to put the curse on him.

Trying to put the curse on it. So, Han, you're getting the ring either way? It's me versus me. You guys don't get to participate. No matter how much you want to. You guys look, no matter how much you want to participate. He left him because of a thumb, now you want to be back. You can watch out, okay?

You can watch out. You can watch out. Two thumbs up. Two thumbs up. on the thumb. Yeah, don't hop back on the thumb. Yeah, don't hop back on the thumb now. What you hopping on the thumb for?

Jalen Thumpton? What's y'all hopping on the thumb for? What's your family? Oh. Thought you were from LA? No, you said... Where you're from? Where you're from?

Where you're from? Where you're from? Where you're from Laker? Where are you from? Ain't you from North Carolina? Where the Bobcats at? Where are the Bobcats at? Where are the Bobcats at?

I'm from my former teammates. Y'all doing this for me. You're doing this for me. I was... I picked the next one. I went out here and did this for me. I picked the next one in serious. Hey, Skip.

Hey, Skip. I said it's Jennings, right? Skip, what did it say on the bracket? What's that gonna say you are? You came on the back on the back of this. I think this is. Hey, Markin. But wait a second.

But you said you weren't going on the more. Because I said both of my teams won't. Wait a second. I'm gonna win anyway. Y'all never be. Oh my God. I thought so I don't care. Where how deep in your closet you go.

You ain't never. going to beat me. It's in the front actually. I thought you were going to have to bring a way bigger body bag today like a 7-6 body bag. Where was that? We got seven games. That was the end. That was the series. No alien embryos?

We don't need none of that. We don't need none of that. One game. We talk hoop today. We're not going to do this every single game. It's going to be boring. It's going to be boring. You better hope not. I don't do it. Oh, now it's boring. Nixon 5.

I might only have three games left out. I get to pick whatever team win, I win. Nixon 5. So y'all got to deal with that. That's outwork. That's what he doing, man. Ask New York that. I win.

I win. That's New York that. All right, as Uncle Wes. He called me and told me. He's not chopped cheese, man. So he's not chopped cheese. Chop cheese in the chat, please. For this shop.

Got out to the world wide. He left because. We got a worldwide mess. Shout out to Leon Rose and those. Oh, man. Oh, here we go. Yeah. He's about to get a shout out.

Yeah, that's what a hater sound like. That's what the haters sound like. You hear that? Y'all hear them? Y'all hear them. Y'all hear them. You give a shout to everybody. Go ahead. Give a shout to everybody.

Diggas. Diggas don't win in their closet to get Nick's jerseys to go against me. Went to our cause. I actually played for the team. That's crazy. Former New York Knicks. Yeah. That's crazy.

That's how far they go. They don't want me to. You went in the closet. They play for the team. It's okay. We actually played for them. Who cares? He went in the closet?

Who cares? He went in the closet? I don't play the Knicks and somehow Melo sent something for me. We got some. We got one. We got a lot to discuss. Appreciate it. As you can see, here's what's cracking in Gill's Arena today.

The Knicks overcame another double-digit second half deficit to get another double-digit road win to still game one from the Spurs. Is New York now the favorite to win the chip? San Antonio suffered the first game one finals lost in franchise history, but who deserves the blame? and is it a 7-foot-4 Frenchman, we will discuss. And Steph Curry ended his sneaker-free agency by taking his curry brand to Leaning! But will the chef's career end with any more bling-bling-bling? But before we get into all that, as always,

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and it'll load instantly. Underdog, make picks, win money with Code Gill. And if you can't watch this show live with us on YouTube, We got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So, NBA Finals tipped off Wednesday night in San Antonio. Spurs rolled through the West with dominant performances over the Blazers and Wolves in the first two rounds. Outlasted the defending champion Thunder with back-to-back wins in game six and seven to reach the finals for the first time since 2014. The Knicks made their first finals since 1999 with an historic 11-game win streak,

featuring three blowout series-clinching wins in the highest point differential in league history. So after back-to-back series sweeps, including the Eastern Conference Finals over the Cavs, New York hadn't played a game since May 25th, a more than eight-day layoff since their last game. Stage was set for a rematch of the 1999 NBA Finals and NBA Cup final from this season. Spurs were 6 and 0 all time in game ones in their finals history. But this time around, Jalen Brunson put the Knicks on his back to welcome Wimby in the Spurs back to Earth. Let's take a look at the highlight, son, if we can please. Son?

Hey, Sainty. So, Nick's through the first punch. Bye. Open the game, jumping out to a 14-7 lead, but the Spurs responded with a 2013 run to take a double-digit lead. Dylan Harper scored 10 of his 16 points in the opening quarter as San Antonio, led by eight after the first frame. Dylan Harper doing his thing.

I'm saying he might need more men. It's Jalen Brunson, one for seven from the field in the first quarter. Briefly left the game with a knee injury after Harrison Barnes crashed into it. The Knicks rallied in the second quarter opening up the period with an 11-4 run to cut the deficit to one. Then Brunton scored eight straight points for the Knicks to help them take the lead. Brunton also appeared to roll his ankle in the second quarter after landing awkwardly near Lou Cornette, following her drive to the basket. Stade in the game though, Spurs into the half with a 13-5 run to take a 55-48 lead until the break. Julian Champany scored 15 of his 16 points in the first half, hit five threes, including three in the second quarter.

The first kept their foot on the gas to start the second half with New York trailing by as much as 14 in the third quarter before their offense started rolling. John Harper hit that bucket right there to make that 14-point lead. Knicks finished the third frame with a 22-9 run, getting a variety of buckets and big defensive plays from the big bodega. Some say he locked up Wemby, we will discuss in just a moment. Like I said, Nick's big rally in the third quarter. After quarter, Deuce McBride hitting buckets not right there, but soon it was capped off by a Deuce McBride, bank three, late in that third quarter. Ended up tying things up at 76.

You see Wimby. But we see Deuce McBride right there to tie things up at six, 376 heading the fourth quarter. Then Jalen Brunton caught fire in the final frame scoring 13 of his 30 points in the final eight minutes of the game. Brunton's second player in Nick's history with 30 plus points. With 30 plus points in game one of the NBA finals joining Willis Reed, who did it back in 1970. Carl Anthony Towns was the big bodega on both sides of the ball. He had 18 points and 12 boards while also guarding Wimby and locking him up, as they say. O.J. and Anobie scored 12 of his 17 points in the fourth quarter, hit two big threes and went four for the line in the frame.

Josh Hart only had three points on one of five shooting. Stuffed the stat sheet with 15 board six assists, four steals and a block. 15 Reef. Andrew Sherman had 13 off the bench. Wimby off shooting night. Still led this first with team high 26 points. He was 6 for 21 from the field, 2 for 9 from 3, 12 for 13. Free throw attempts.

Also had 11 rebounds with a game high, 6 turnover as well. Von Castle 17 and 8. Dearen Fox struggling in this one, 7 points. New York led by as much as 8 Spurs. Tried to mount that comeback for Jalen Brunson. Put the team on his back to get the dub. Ooh, these highlights were exhilarating. Hold on, I'm a little ver-climp now.

New York ended the game with an 11-0 run outscoring the Spurs, 29-19 in the final frame. Brunton and O.G. and Inobie outscores San Antonio by themselves in the fourth quarter. Nix got their seventh consecutive double-digit playoff road win, the longest streak in league history. Here was a reaction from Brunton and Wimby after the game. I think we know what we have to do.

I think we're a pretty together group. be able to trust each other and still just continue to fight and have each other's back and just know that we've got to keep chipping away, chippy away. It's just a credit to the mentality we have as a team. But I mean, we can't just be satisfied that we have a long way to go. We have a lot of things we can do to be better. But I'm happy we came with the win.

Every team guards differently, you know. I'm going to figure it out. It's, yeah, I mean, I was bad tonight. It's not more complicated than that. that we've been down in the series before never in the finals obviously but I'm not kicking myself about anything really I mean I'm not worried the slightest hmm nix are the third team to win 12 straight games in a single postseason previous two teams the 2017 Warriors 1990s went on to win the title let's take a

look at that 12 win playoff streak if we have that graphic available oh as you can see right here 13 single postseason Last two, won the trip. Damn. Two, three Nets team was pretty, yeah, and we lost, though. But damn. Valiant effort, though, came in a lot of. Damn, ten in a row.

Valiant effort. Swaggy, let's start with you. Carried over to the next year, it went to 14 games. You know, in multiple. Yeah, but, yeah. Swept the first round in next year. It was good. Oh, yeah, it was three games.

I mean, best out of five, right? No, no, you know, it was back to seven. My first year we made the playoffs. It was five games first year. Yeah. Let's start with you. Ah, man, this is... Biggest takeaways from the Knicks, rolling into San Antonio, stealing game one. I would say, you know, you gotta start with the coach. We gotta get Mike Brown some credit. Got to get Mike Brown the credit he deserved. He, you know, coming in, a lot of people was, you know, down on him.

But the way he, I think he's doing the Warriors pedigree, playing all 10, playing as a team, playing nine players, not running his players into the ground, giving players like Sherman and Brunson. I mean, the other guy, confidence, going out there to shoot the ball like they were with confidence. Fast breaks, pulling up for threes in the finals. I think you got to give him confidence. I see. And, you know, Bronson chopped cheese, baby. And the big bodega came to play. They, I love the way.

You can't do the four smalls and one big against New York, like the Spursman doing all playoffs. They do the four smalls and throw Wemby out there. I think New York got a team, got one of the best small ball teams that could play, rebound, play hard with Josh Hart, OG, Bridges. And then you got money mouths out there. So nobody gave them a chance.

I see Vegas had the Spurs. That's your favorite. I heard even New York fans like Stephen A. saying they got the Spurs. But, you know, shout out to, you know, them boys in New York, French Montana. All them boys, Max B, performing after the game. Jim Jones, Fat Joe. You know, we had some people sad yesterday watching the game. Very quiet.

Fat Joe, just Joe now. Just Joe. Did that Joe's answer? Champion Joe. Okay. Soon to be champion, Joe. Just soon to be. All right, let's shift over to you, Mr. B.

I see you rocking. The vintage Brandon Jennings, Nick's jersey. What are your biggest takeaways from New York? Stealing Game 1 from the Spurs. Well, they looked a little rusty from being off eight days, for sure you can tell. But they pulled it together. In that fourth quarter, OG, he came through. He did his big one.

even though Hart only had three points, 15 rebounds was huge for them. And Kat, man, I got to still just give it up to Kat. I mean, they were pressuring Kat. Kat was making it difficult on Wimby all night. He also attacked him on the other side of the floor. And then with Brunson, I mean, he just wiled herself to that win. He was on one leg. And Mike Brown just having everybody together and just sticking to the plan.

You know, guys came in and made big shots when needed to. It was looking a little like it was going to be over by the third. third quarter, but they were able to rally. Their defense came together, and they were able to just go in there and still a win. So, I mean, that's one of the biggest things that you want to do in the finals, you know,

try to get that first win. So they did what they were supposed to do. You think he was hurt? Bronson? Yeah, you didn't see the I saw it. He looked good to me in the fourth quarter. No, that last shot when he was trying to, he looked like he just was like everything he... Oh, wow. That one little leg. Let's shift over

to this side to the distinguished gentleman first. Another former New York Knicks, Rocking the Vintage, Kenya Martin Jersey. We're your biggest takeaway from the Knicks, stealing game one from the Spurs in San Antonio. Yeah, if you're going to get one, then the first one is the game to get. To Brandon's point, they did look a little rust at first, but I like to play calling to start the game, giving the team a certain look. Shout out to Mitchell Roberts, man, for sucking it up. I challenged them.

And, yeah, so, that's what's up. You are a vital piece to what your team needs as far as rebounding and somewhat of rim protection. So you've got six files to use on Wemby, which is good. You come out there and be aggressive. You've got to worry about playing big minutes. I don't think McHale Bridges will have the kind of game he had again. under 10 points.

Same for Josh Hart. Shout out of Josh Hart. He represented for the threes, B. You know what I'm saying? 15 rebounds, three points, man, but you affected the game in a major way. Defense and all those things, extra possessions.

Yeah, I think he'll make more shots, man. It was a tall task, tall task going into San Antonio, but I think the Knicks are battle tested, man. You don't win 11 straight games. in the playoffs and you're not battle tested. You went into tough environments, you've overcome deficits,

you've fought through injury from certain players being out. So you have the recipe for what it takes to be successful. And I think they went in there and displayed it. I think the bench will play better for the Knicks. I think the immaturity of the Spurs where it is head at times, Wimby can't take nine threes That's glaring I think he's settling

That's what good defense makes you do at times When they can force you into certain actions And I think they did that in game one So we'll see how our Wemby reacts in game two To that defense because it's not going to change You know I'm looking for what type I wanted to see what kind of adjustments will be made in game two On both sides

To Jalen Brunson's point They know they can play better in certain areas. But to get a win, you'll definitely take it. But no, it's, it's, yeah, I just like what the Knicks are doing. I said early on I didn't trust them before the playoffs started, but, hey, they have proven wrong. They've proven that they mean business, and they're on the biggest stage doing it.

And to go get game one on the road is a huge deal. So, offshore you're not on both sides, nicks. I believe 41% from the field, 31% from three, Spurs were 36. percent from the field, 26% from the three. But let's shift back over to this side of the couch. Former Spurs fan, current Thunders fan. Skip, what were your biggest takeaways from the Knicks stealing game one from the Spur?

That was easy. So, I got to kick out of fact that the shortest player on the floor outplayed by far the tallest player on the floor when it mattered the most. And I know Jalen Brunson banged his knee against Harrison Barnes, and there might be a little hyper-extension, but man, in the fourth quarter, he put one move on a little semi-break on Deere and Fox, a little jitterbug move.

He was moving and grooving in the fourth quarter. Scored 13. That dagger shot that you talked about, that sideways fall away, It was just like vintage Brunson, and it just broke San Antonio's will. And to me, last night, once again, the alien looked more like an earthling to me. He looked groundbound. And he had a playoff high, 15 missed shots, six of 21. As Kenyon pointed out, he took nine three.

made two of them. That won't work. And he had a playoff high, six turnovers. And I remind you, the last time they played the Knicks at Madison Square Garden on March 1st, he had seven turnovers. Because the Knicks are one team that realizes he dribbles so high because he's so tall that you can pick his pocket pretty easily. And it got picked late in the game when they had one last chance. and that was on Wimby because Josh Hart picked his pocket. And this all happened mostly because I am a Thunder fan.

This is because Chet Holmgren does not play for the New York Knicks. Carl Anthony Towns plays for the New York Knicks. And to me, Chet Holmgren is an all-star against everybody except that alien, and he shrinks in fear at the mere sight of that alien. See Game 7 of the Western Conference Finals when he, Chad Holmgren, took no shots the last three quarters and wound up with four points and four rebounds. And that wasn't happening last night

because Chad Hongren ain't walking through that door anymore, Wimbunyama. And with Carl Anthony Towns, he ain't afraid of no alien because he is seven, feet tall, and he knows he's quicker-footed than Wimbunyama is, and he knows that he is a career 40% three-point shooter, and by the way, he didn't even play to that advantage last night because Kat was 0 for two from three, so wait until game two and three and four, when he starts making threes, it's really going to make it hard on the alien. And then on the defensive side, because Carl Anthony Towns knows that he's just quicker-footed than the alien.

Not only did he blow by him twice on offense in the first half got his attention, but on defense, he just bothers him. He can go out and play him on the perimeter and get up into him because he's not afraid of Wimonyama dribbling by him. And, man, I'm looking at this number. Wait a second. Wimby was 2 of 14 when guarded by cat. Two of 14?

Wow. That's falling back to earth. And then I see Wimby say after the game, he isn't worried in the slightest. Man, I think he should be worried in the highest, right? Like, come on, man. Now you're up against game two because game three is back in that madhouse up in New York. you know, and all I know is that I watched the home team once again, they did this twice against the thunder,

but I watched them blow a big lead, 14 point lead mid third quarter, and give up a 54 to 30 run to the end of the game, including an 11 to nothing run over the last two minutes of the game. And, yeah, Jalen Brunson made two huge shots as he always does, but that key blunder in that game came with 57 seconds left when they had a chance to cut it back down to two. And Wimby's out playing point guard because he thinks he's a two guard

and he lost the ball. And that was the end of the game and put them in a very deep hole. Now I'm hearing, well, Wimby was tired. He's 22 years old and he just had four days off. I'm not buying tired. And then I keep hearing, well, he's got to post more. How many times have you said that about him?

Like his whole career? Like, isn't that the thing with Wimby? Is that he just doesn't post? Can't hold position. He can't hold position, but it's not his mentality. Even if it was, he couldn't hold position. I just don't think he's saying it. Barclay said it last night.

He's just a finesse player. Too light. He's a two guard. He's a nine-time three-point attemptor. Then you can push him off his spot. Man, I say good luck to the doctor across from me. because he's up against it now in game two. Let's shift over to the doctor, Dr. Rashob McCants, PhD.

Were your biggest takeaways? Are they your New York Knicks still? I just, I figured, you know, after hearing everybody's assessment, I figured I analyzed the game, talk hoop, not show no favoritism. After all, that. Give credit, first of all, to the New York Knicks. Well, the question was about the Knicks.

Okay. Let me finish. All right, let y'all finish. Go ahead. After all that. You know we're used to this. I'm talking when I talk. Well, hey, he... As long as we answered the question.

Y'all good. Y'all ready? Go ahead and get it out. I said, I'm not even looking at all that. I'm sorry. Sorry, Spurr. New York Knicks, as far as what they did well. I love everything about the pace and the ferocity. They were down the majority of the game.

Be so fresh to be so experienced. I think that the Spurs showed that they can actually play with the Knicks at a high level. They came in ready to play with both sides playing, the game plan that they all tried to execute. I love the energy. You talk about who you talk about the NBA finals. You talk about both teams really being up for the moment. I loved it. It wasn't a great game offensively.

they both struggled. It was kind of a nasty game if you really think about it, if you're really truly watching it. I don't think anybody played well until Brunson, Brunson really in the fourth started to play well. Shaman hit some shots. McBride hit a corner banker.

OG hit a couple good shots. I think the biggest mistake was Ms. Johnson not putting Dylan Harper in the game in the fourth. He only played three minutes. I think that really hurt him. He was leading the team in scoring up until the fourth quarter. Wimby obviously didn't have a good game.

A majority of the game. He was like 3 for 14 up until a certain point. But he's going to do what he do. 26 points, 12 rebounds in a bad game in the finals, your first time. I think that's going to be his worst game. I can't wait until he gets back to normal. Brunson, you got to tip your hat off to him. Like I said, shout out the World Wild West, Leon Rose, New York Knicks, showing up doing what

they need to do. Brunson, being able to take them over the top, big shots in the fourth. Mitchell Robinson did what he had to do. They definitely played Wembe a certain type of way. I love it. But we're not worried on both sides. We're not worried for the Spurs. We're not worried for the Knicks.

Like I said, either way, this knicker right here is going to win regardless. We're going to win regardless. So with the Spurs. You know, we're gonna rally back. That wasn't the question. The question was, what about the name? I thought we was too. I thought the question was about the Knicks.

Y'all just can't help yourself, huh? I thought. I'll be triggering you niggas for real, like, real talk. Like, y'all can't even sit still. What was the question about, the next? Yeah, what did we take about the next win? I appreciate you sitting still letting me talk, because I let you talk.

But damn, I see, I see, I be triggered. They just be shaking out their body. They don't think about it. Oh, man. You're shut up. Wait for you. You can't even. Damn.

You said what? I'm crazy. Yeah, Nick. All right. Damn. You know, like, damn.

Like, shit. I said, hell left these things talk. They can't even sit still. What the fuck is in your bloodstream? Y'all good? Damn, Nick. You sit in shit.

Like, who is your own? Like, call names. Who is your own? This shit. Kenyon, Nick and Brandon. Okay, so while you're saying something right now. I ain't said shit because you said y'all,

put a name on it. Everybody. No, I ain't said shit while you was talking. You're saying it right now. Yeah, because you said y'all, you include it. I want to know who the fuck y'all is. Put a name on it. Everybody in here that's talking about talking.

I didn't say shit while you were talking. Why are you getting loud? Because you said y'all put a name on it. Put a fucking name on it. I just did. I ain't said shit while you was talking. What you talking about? Yeah, because you can you include me and some shit ain't got it to do with me.

That's why I'm talking. So why are you to see yourself and y'all? I said, who are y'all? So why are you including yourself and y'all? I'm not included. So why are you including yourself and y'all? It's a mother. It's four other people here other than you.

Say them. Don't say y'all. Call names out. Come on, man. If you got a problem with somebody, say their name. Don't include you y'all. I just feel like it's an insult. Don't say y'all when you want to talk to certain people.

Say it's name. If you want to say Nick, why are you talking when I'm talking? Say his name. Say his name. My name fucking Kenyon. If I was talking while you was talking, say that. I didn't say Kenyan, I said y'all. So who is y'all, don't.

If it ain't you, it ain't you. I don't know who y'all is. So if you don't know, why would you include yourself? Say your name. Why would you include yourself in y'all? If I didn't say your name. Say them. I got a hundred guns, a hundred,

say their name. name. Don't include. Don't include. That's all. That's all I'm asking. If you got to say one, say their name. That's all. Regulator. That's it. That's all I'm asking. Roundup. Don't, don't, like I said, I don't want to me, because I let you speak. I ain't got shit to say. Clear black night. That's all. It's real simple. Like, real simple acts. If you're not talking to me, don't say y'all. Say his, they say their name. Say his name. No one is around you. Are y'all done?

Say his name. Because now you included in everybody. You is y'all now. Because you're still talking about I'm trying to talk. No, you were... I asked you a simple question. You can finish whatever it is that statement you was making. Since you're not talking to me, finish your statement. And after all that, New York still won.

Hey, man. Long seriously, ladies, Jim. Seriously, you're jumping. Why I have a New York jersey on, Nicholas. Oh, you jumped on a train, I get it. Hence, why I have a New York Nick jersey on, okay? After all that, the Knicks still won. Go ahead, Josiah, I land my plane since the motherfucker gonna crash.

That's some point. Do you, shall land it. May I address your Dylan Harper point, please. So, in the first half, Dylan Harper looked like the best player on the floor to me. player on the floor to me at age 20. And I don't know what has happened to Deerrin Fox, but against the thunder, he fell into a pretty deep slump. He had a couple of big shots in game seven, but overall shot it poorly from the field and

the, from three. But in the second half, Dylan Harper started to cool off, and he made a couple of shots, but he missed both his threes, and he had a turnover. And then I remind you, he had another clear cut turnover to me when that kid ran out on the floor to take the selfie. And the refs got discombobulated and they weren't sure if it happened before, after the kid ran on the floor, and they call it a jump ball. And it sure looked when they replayed it, it happened before the kid ran on the floor. He just lost the ball out of pounds.

And he was, for what it's worth, I don't love plus minus. but Dylan Harper was a minus 17 in the second half. And once upon a time, not that long ago, 2023, Dearen Fox was the clutch player of the year in the NBA. So he's their only veteran. And I don't blame Mitch Johnson for just hanging with him, hoping that he would make a shot, just one shot down the stretch.

Now, if you want to switch it up in game two, you got me. But I do not condemn him, you know, blame him, vilify him completely, Mitch Johnson, for not playing Dylan Harper more than three and a half minutes in the fourth quarter. He has scored two of the starters. He has scored two of the starters, so you've got to find some minutes for him. That is. It was that air ball in the fourth quarter.

That was a crazy air ball. Which one? Dylan Harper shot that three before he got. But as much as we want to blame Winby, I got to blame the coach, though. Which is a minus 17 I sold him on him. You know that. But it's, like I said, I hate the plus managers. It doesn't tell the old story.

It doesn't tell the old story. It doesn't tell the old story. But he was. But he outscored the other two starters that they had 16 and he outscored, I'm saying the same amount of points as other two starters. He did. You got to five minutes for him. My assessment is a little bit different. It's not about the outscoring thing.

It was about his ability to be able to get to the paint against Brunson, against O.G., against whoever was on him. The way he plays, the pace he plays. his strength, his ability to shoot the floater. I think that's an advantage for them, especially in the second half when trying to make runs. It's a game of runs. The one thing we know is that the Knicks are going to make runs because they play fast.

And when you play with a big like cat, you always have the ability to get to the rim from the big perspective. So when he gets to the rim and you have somebody like Wembe guarding him or OG on the wing, it's harder for you to get paint deflections and boxers.

shots and so on and so forth. But then you also have the kick ability for Shaman, McBride, and Brunson. I don't think that when you think about factors, bridges, regardless of if he changes it or not, I think they have other weapons out there that can be offset. But Dylan Harper is the type of kid that I think is a powerful weapon that you have to use instead of three for 13. someone's trying to get his rhythm going based of being a clutch player against a guy like Brunson. We need defense on, we need defense coming down and we need firepower on the other end.

I think that's what Harper does, even though he's 20. Him being 20 is not really an excuse. It's just like Wimby being 22. But I think Mitch needs to see in certain spots. Would you start him? No, it's not about starting. I mean, just playing them innings like Genoble. Playing him more like Genoble, giving him confidence.

giving him confidence to play in late situations and if he does make mistakes you may take him out for a minute but don't don't don't villainize him to be thinking that his confidence is like I'm not ready to play deep minutes I mean well 11 minutes in the fourth quarter didn't score two turnovers

the last time I'm saying he started off he did his job in the first half I feel like got the team going got when he came in that's when the team started getting energy But New York went on that run in the second half when he was in the game too. And the turnovers was timely, cost them. Open three, two open threes, one was an airball, like a clear airball. Yeah, I mean, it happened.

I feel like he could. You take him out then. But the difference in that run wasn't really him. It was, they was targeting Champaign. For me, as a coach, what I would have done is I would have put Vassel, Harper, Castle, as my guards with Johnson and Wemby. There we can switch all three of them. He don't have nobody that he's targeting

because I feel like he knew he had an advantage against Champani, and that's why he kept going at him. So I think there's some things there where Mitch trusts Champany to hit shots. He feels like he's a viable defender, but I think that he got more lined-up situations that they could change to give them an advantage. Oh, you're not saying Takeout Fox.

Yeah, I'm saying Take Out Fox. I am. I think I am. I am. I'm sorry. The last five games, he's averaging nine points in shooting. But when he's, you have to be able to score. But when is he scoring?

He slowed down the comeback, driving to the whole game to the feet of the line. He made a timely bucket towards the end, too. Well, you know this whole playoffs, Harper's averaging 13 with 25 minutes and Fox is averaging 15 with 32 minutes. Like, so, like, what's, but, like, this sounds like, this sounds like, because when, Dylan Harper was getting off in that...

When Fox was out and Dylan Harper was getting that attention, you know, then he came back from injury because he started feeling like, you know, he started feeling like, you know, that young boy was... We talked about on the show. Young boy is going to take a spot. And now you're out there just... He had a chance, though. When he started getting the main focus towards the end, you have to take him out.

He turned it all over. Dude, they didn't put Dylan Harper back into three minutes in the four quarter. That's because he, when they was making a run, they was up 14. The other guy played 11 minutes It didn't do anything No, no, no, you got it wrong, bro That's the opposite. It was they took them out

Then they made the run Then they tried to put him back in With three minutes left That's the different So I'm blaming the coach I think this loss is on the coach No Bro, that young boy is

Bro, I'm keeping him on the court If he mess up, hey, I'm living with it at this point But the main reason you keep him on the floor I'm not keeping him on the court No, that too, but For defense specifically Because the good matchup, when you talk about Castle, trying to match up with Brunson, and he's running the pick and roll, switch with me.

And it's who's on me did I want? I want him. Come set the screen. They're going to switch. But if we got three defenders that you can't pick from, now you got to try to go to Wimby. We can double that. You're throwing back to somebody else. And it's like, it's a coaching, like you said, it's a coaching decision.

But at the same time, you got to put Harper in a position to succeed. But also, what did the Knicks do differently than? against the Spurs this time, OG used to guard Wembe and who was guarding Wemby this time, towns. That was the biggest difference right there. Or Mitchell Robinson did. Yeah, I mean, but in the regular it was more OG.

But now that they put towns on it, it's a whole different matchup now. Okay, let's talk about what they were running. They were running the four or five pick and roll, which is kind of like the horns, the tight horns at the top. That's why I was always counted. And what they was doing on the backside roll

was they was sinking in, taking away the lob, But we was talking about that. Castle was not throwing into that corner guy to get that shot. And when he did, Champaign hit the shot. So that's one thing is he's overplaying the plays that they run, that they get success on that may not just be, it ain't working against them.

They got to go to what they ran in game seven against the OKC. And they ran the cross screen for Wemby where they can get Wemby in the post. And then they had a down screen for the guard to come down. That's actions that help Wemby and it help the guards and it helped the weak side if they're switching. But you gotta get to that point. But what they're doing is they're trying to play fast and they're doing that pick and roll at the top and they're thinking they're going to get switches. But what we see that Kat and Robinson are doing it, they're dropping and they're staying with Mendy. And they're allowing whoever the point guard is to turn the corner.

Because that's Castle. Right. He's, you know, he's trying to probe. I like Harper up there. But then again, that's why he's saying like Fox can make those things. can make those things. Yeah, he hits some of those. Lots's gonna make those things.

But Fox made a turnover with the spin line that he thought he'd seen and he pulled it away. And that was Wimby thinking it was going to be something in the question. But it's growing pains. I mean, like, we can't go crazy off game one though. It's just like it's game one. It's feeling out. You gotta fill them out. Got to figure out who's doing what, how you defending me.

We gotta make adjustments and come back and see what's up. Yeah. It's different too when you just... Well, Fox won't play that bad. Fox won't play that bad. Like three for 13, but the next player is not going to play that bad. Like I said, it was down majority of the third where they had to rally back and make a run to actually make it a game and tie it up. Yeah, it was some questionable cause too, though.

Yeah. Well, Buston didn't shoot free throws until like a minute and 30-some seconds in the third quarter. They had the fight for us all. Didn't they even the free throws out? Yeah, but you see Munson at the end. No, but you see Brunson at the end, what, plus seven? Something in the attempt? You see Brunson at the end, though, at the go to our six.

He's still, man. Yeah, but that was, apparently, there was a couple fans that were saying some not-nice things to him about flopping in choice language. Because if you saw at the end of the game, Brunson ran up on Scott Fosser. It looked like he might have been complaining about the whistle. Apparently, according to a report from Chris Haynes, a couple fans sitting courtside. I thought it was Sister Mary Clarence. Sister Mary Clarence. They were in the suite. They were.

Nons were not humble. So, could I bring up the most bizarre stuff? stat of the night to me. What's the one New York Nick who has been constantly criticized as a defensive liability? Galen Brunson. That's correct. So here's the stat

of the night. Uh-oh. We've seen this that now. San Antonio shooters were one of 14 when guarded, and I got to put quotes around guarded, when guarded by Jalen Brunson. When he was nearby when it was supposed to be his guy, they went one of 14

and 0 of 8 from 3 when he was the primary defender. On 9 of the 14 shots, he actually contested the shot that were missed. So 9 of the 14 misses, he contested. But the big switch in the second half, remember, Champani in the last, what was it, two minutes of the first half, he makes three threes. It was just like out of his mind, remember he made 11 on New Year's Eve in that same building against that same team, which is the Spurs' all-time record, 11 of 17-3s. So he's just, he's like shooting free throws.

Nobody's guarding him. And all of a sudden they jump out to a seven-point halftime lead. And obviously at halftime, they told Jalen Brunson, you have to at least get a hand up on him. Just, just, don't leave him. Don't cheat into the middle. Just go put a hand up. And in the second half, what was Champany? 0 for 5 and 0 for 4 from 3.

So Jalen at least did some defensive job that the stat is saying was key to the whole process, right? So I give him fourth quarter credit on offense and a lot of credit on defense. At least he did something defensively that I didn't expect, right? I agree. I agree. I always said that he has the potential to. play defensive. We never said that he doesn't. He tries. He actually, he's a championship player. But I think it's cats. That's the liability defensively. I think if Victor would have

attacked him more, it would have been, because he started to get his fouls that he usually gives, the crazy fouls that he started to usually get. But if you ease up off him, it's better because he's a roamer defensively. He's kind of like Mitchell Robinson. He knows where to be. He's a smart player. But when it comes to foul, he makes dumb fouls. And you can make him reach. You can make him do little stupid stuff. But yeah, Brunson is solid, but you got to go back to Mike Brown. They play elbows and boxes. They play elbows and boxes. This is two teams defensively that are in the gaps. If you're going to beat us, you're going to beat us by driving and kicking into this guy. He's going to kick it to the corner. Cornerman going to hit this shot all night. We're going to

depend on that. And defensively rotating, close out to the corner, man, make you know, make a lot. him take one dribble, he's got to hit that mid-range. As we were watching last night, what we see at the mid-range. They did not want to shoot that mid-range. Them shit was long. Them shit was nasty. Them shit was nasty. They pulled up at the free-thole.

Every time. That's the go through your execution of the offense all the way through, and we're going to make them take long twos, and we're going to live with it. Get the rebound, box out, let's go down and do the same thing. These are two teams that just well, they're well-coached. One team executed better down the stretch. than the other. In the second half.

In the second half. In the second half. I'll give you the second half. You see. Well, actually, just the fourth quarter. I mean, just the fourth quarter, honestly, if we're going to get on it. You have won first and the fourth quarter. First and the fourth?

29. 29. It was solid. Yeah. So let's talk a little bit more Jalen Brunson. Brunton proved once again why he's the king of New York, also the king of the fourth quarter, like Kenny Beecham, this postseason. So Brunson averaging nearly 10 points per game in the fourth quarter of 2026 playoffs on a ridiculous was 59, 62, 93 splits.

So 12 for 31 in game one, but five for nine in the final frame. Nicks are 6-0 this postseason when Brunton scores 30 plus points. So the athletics, Ian O'Connor, asked Walt Clyde Frazier about Brunton after game one. Clyde said he's got the tenacity of Willis Reed and he's got my cool.

So, Ken, when you look at Jalen Brunson, what did Jalen Brunson show you in his first career finals game? He's ready for the moment. The spotlight is not too big. big. He understands the totality of the pressure that he's under right now, being at the Knicks having won it since 73. So yeah, I think he's up for the challenge. He went out and displayed it. Whatever the Elm was, the injury that he had earlier, whatever he got

his knee ran into, whatever that was, didn't seem to hamper him. And we know that he's capable with playing more minutes. So, yeah, no, it was the Jalen Brunson show in the fourth quarter, man. Took a lot of shots, of course, but sometimes you got to wheel him. Like, you got to wheel him to go. And he did, he wheeled his team to win. And, like I said, he proved that he's up for the challenge. And he understands the totality of what this moment means.

So I think he, hey, he's going to play better. He's going to shoot the ball better. He's going to play better throughout the series. I'm excited to see it. So we talked before and you guys said he need to be in that 25, 30 range. Y'all wanted to see Jaylen Brunson shooting those shots, obviously lower percentage in this game, but wasn't too big for the moment, stepped up when it seemed needed to and got it done. So Mr. B.

When you look at what Jaylen Brunzel was able to do, game one, 13 of his 30 points coming in that fourth quarter instrumental in helping the Knicks turn it around, get the win. Yeah, I mean, that's who he's been all year. in last year and when the team is on his back, that's what he does. But what was more impressive was Skip said. When he was guarding the main guy, they were won for 14. So I can take the 31 shots. I could take 40 shots.

As long as you're doing what you've got to do on that other end, which he did on the fourth quarter and everything, I mean, I have nothing to say. I mean, for your first performance out there, you got hurt a little bit, you sucked it up, you wasn't complaining, they were filing. You just shoot your first free throw to the third quarter, still kept going, and still kept putting your head down. Amazing. I mean, amazing performance.

Especially on that defense and with those numbers. Amazing. So I got to give it to them. But it's only one game. You know, they're going to come back. Them young dogs going to come back for game two, though. Believe that. So had the knee injury first quarter landed awkwardly near Luke Cornett,

the replays didn't necessarily look like Cornett stepped on the foot. It looked like Brunton just landed a little. I thought he stepped on it. He stepped on it. He stepped on it, but he landed. It wasn't as bad. It wasn't as bad as it looked, though, right? That's what, yeah, because they showed them.

He was mad because he didn't get the call. He was complaining about the call, but you watched the replay. Vassell maybe on the push off a little bit. I just felt like it. I just felt like it. He used to him. The whole got his jersey grabbed, all kind of stuff. I just played final war.

It was less fouls. This game was a whole lot of less. A lot of windings flopping. No, no, no. He didn't get them called, though. No, no. Them first, like, eight minutes was they were calling nothing. It was jail ball.

As it should. It's the finest. I like, I like that. To the right. But Bronson did. 31 shots? You know, he got a whole city on his back, man. That's a lot of pressure to play in New York.

And for somebody that do what he's doing right now, and that takes hard, a lot of heart, a lot of guts. Because at any moment, New York could kill you. A lot of people are not ready for that spotlight. The lights are bright. The lights are bright. You can tell like when people come here and they go to other teams, they play better, and it's It's different playing for these big cities and go out there and keep your cool and

You know what he did in the last you know three minutes man was amazing so I think that shot right there It'll be they win it. It's gonna be shown everywhere And he has a chip on the shoulder too from that that that quote that came out about him from from was the coach over there from spurs? Becky Hammond Becky Hammond so so saying so saying You need a guy. You can't win with a small guard. He would, obviously, buck his three be Isaiah Thomas Stephan himself if he can end up winning the championship, but basically said he wasn't the guy. Yeah, and she's the coach over there with the Spurs.

She used to, yeah, she used to be. And she doubled down on it. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, and she just doubled down on it. Becky Hammond, she could get her jersey hanging in the rafters out. Yeah, no, I flip off. Oh, she is. You talk about what? You talk about 31 shots.

You got to really go back to the guy that we all know. Man, that's all saying. Like, if I'm going to go home. I'm going to go home shooting, right? And, you know, to have that mentality in the fourth, knowing that nobody else on my team, not only like y'all not ready for that moment, but y'all know I've been doing this for us for this long.

Like, you see them get out the way. I think town, just go to the corner. It's your turn. It's your time, yeah. And so when you think about that, that's experience, that's veteran, that's, I know my moment. That's what we didn't see with Mitchell, but we didn't see with Hardin

where it's like give me the ball I'm gonna go out shooting 30 of these so imagine when Winby figures that out like I need to get to my spot like Brunson knows where his spots are this kid don't know what his spots are yeah he don't know you know he still got the boxes and elbows

he don't know how to figure out yet but then you look at Deeran Fox and you say damn Deeran you're supposed to be showing Brunson this is me and you going against each other I see he tried he missed that one He missed a couple. He missed a couple right here.

It's tough. Yeah. Because that's deflating because we need that shot. You missing it, they go down, Brunson come and hit you again. That's going to be tough for, you know, down the line. We're talking about game three, game four. Game two going to be cool, depending on what happens. So three-four is going to be.

That's what I'm saying, game two. So do you go back to the Jalen Brunson way? I mean, listen, they won off will, but game two, they're going to come back. Come on, man, they're going to come back with a whole different schemes. Are you going to track the teammates to this game? teammates this game. Like, you know, we got, I mean, listen, we still got, they still, huh? He did it in the first half. No, no, but, you know, in the fourth quarter, it still look like that old Knicks basketball again, just get it to him. But we didn't, we didn't adjust

to that. I know, I know, but I'm saying, you guys are going to, though. Yeah, we have to guard that man, though. Jalen Brunson had two assists. Yeah, I'm about to say. So, 13 points, though, 13 points to assist. I don't need to pass. We don't need to. But what if we start to happen this. We're going to have to. That's why I going to make the adjustment. But what they did, he put. push everybody down like a one four flat and they let him go to work. So if we did try to come off of him, you got wide open threes that you don't want to give up. I think they did that because remember the shots they was taken before that, though?

The bridges fade away, running out of the ground. They were shooting some crazy stuff. You don't say that OG stepped up in that fourth quarter. He came up. Big shots. That eight points. It was crazy. It was a three.

It was a lot. Oh, that layup was big, man. Two, threes in that lay it went. But that's the thing that's first. didn't combat those runs. Like you got eight points from OG, you got three points from McBride, that corner little bank thing. Like we didn't have, well, Champagne came down and hit some shots, but we didn't have that match for match. And we need that.

Yeah, I think, you know, first time in the finals for them, I feel like it got a little tight for him. Both of us. Yeah. It did. It did. It showed. That's all. That's why when y'all was doing it was doing, I had to sit there.

I had to sit there and I'm like, they did. not ready for that right there. That's Brunson moment. Brunson did what he was supposed to. But me thinking is like, we up the whole game. I'm thinking they just making this run. We're going to make our run. But then once he hit that shot, it's like, oh, God.

Not exactly like game one at Eastern Conference Finals, but Nix, again, find themselves down double digits. Again, rally. Huge layoff in between the games. Obviously look rusty. Both teams look rusty. But let's shift over to Kat if we can quickly. Another double-double in the game on game. It was

also big defensively for the Knicks. We talked about Wimby 2 for 12, shooting four turnovers with Kat as a primary defender. So in this postseason, Big Bodegas, averaging 17.11 rebounds, six assists on 56, 47, 90 shooting splits. So when you look at this game,

obviously Brunson, story of the game, but how much credit does Kat deserve for helping the Knicks win game one? It's good. We can start with you, sir. Let me say one thing about Jalen Brunson before we leave that behind, then I'll go to Kat. This is why your team, I know you've got a split personality over there,

but your spurs should be highly concerned. Because the first thing Jalen Brunson said after the game on the court was, it wasn't really our night, my night, most of the night. That's true. It wasn't really their night. They played, would you call the game it's just kind of ugly? Yeah, ugly game, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, one team shoots. The Knicks shoot 41%, the home team shoots 36%. Well, Jalen concluded his remarks, so we have a lot of things we can do a whole lot better. Well, they do. So to San Antonio, which was two of 19 in the second half from three. They can fix a lot of that because we've seen them with their backs to the wall, this whole playoffs, and how they respond.

But you made the Kobe comparison. For Jalen to just suck it up and say, okay, if you guys don't want this, I'll take it. And you point out, it's just one game. But if the Knicks do win this series, you're going to look back at that fourth quarter on game one, and you're going to say that was a legacy quarter. That's what I said, yeah. Because it doesn't loom huge right now, but it will, especially if they somehow go steal game two, then you're going to look back at the fourth quarter and say, he did that.

to them, there? Really? And you're going to remember that for a long time. And he's going to be the toast in New York for a long time. But to your point, you can't do what you did last night without Carl Anthony Towns. He played with confidence I haven't seen from him consistently before. And he talked to the TNT guys that are now ESPN guys. But he was doing the way.

with Barclay and them after the game. And he said he really felt like his mother, may she rest in peace, was in the stance. And he convinced me, he really thought she was like in the third row as a presence during the game. Because it didn't come across like phony baloney stuff. I think he really felt a peace and a calm

that her spirit was in the house. And he just took it, he took it to Wimby, right away. And those two blowbys in the first half were just huge for the confidence of the Knicks to say, damn, like, oh, oh, he's, he's ready to do that to him. And then his ability to go out and defend on the perimeter, it's just something Chet didn't show you at all in the previous series. So all of a sudden, Wimby's a little off balance. Like, oh, God, this is, I haven't seen this for a while. I'm not sure he's seen it at the whole playoffs. And, and he's,

he's going to have to reset mentally, and maybe he's capable in 48 hours. But without Carl Anthony Towns, it doesn't happen. You needed him to get Jalen to the fourth quarter to go Kobe. And again, 31 shots, it's a lot of shots. But he ain't afraid, and Carl Anthony was not afraid last night. And those are the two reasons we're having this conversation. My tidbit of pushback would be Wemby does not know how to play cat in this moment. And I was telling him, when he was guarding him, Wembe was over-excited.

He was playing up on him when you don't play up on Carl Anthony Towns. He's a quick big that can drive by you. And I don't know why the scouting report isn't telling Wemby to give him space, not enough to shoot the three, but enough to give him cushion to just run the plays, where he's not looking for his three-point shot and he's not looking to drive. Wimby over-exverted his stealth, over-extended itself, allowed him to drive by him. He did. Carl has a certain savvy.

He's a very crafty player, so he used his small hooks, he used his little chicken wings to get by Wemby, which gives him an advantage. I am seven foot too. And people forget, Carl Anthony Towns is the number one pick. He's no slouch. Extreme skill. I can make the case he's even more skilled at seven feet than Wimby is at 7.6. Listen, you can understand.

Wimby hasn't gotten there yet. The difference in this series right now is that when you switch Wemby off to a small, you have Carl Anthony Town playing traditional big in the post now. So he can throw it over the top, catch, don't bring it down, put it back up. You can get him in the seal position where he can actually get the ball and do a jump hook. And we talk about offensive rebounds. He had two big offensive rebounds, one against Wemby, I think one against Cornette. We're talking about just getting in front.

He knows how to do that. They were and ones. Yes. You're talking about deflating when you talk about Wemby being down there. We need every rebound, big fella. Carl Anthony Towns, it managed this whole series is going to be playing the big man position. Is that one of his weaknesses, Wemby, guarding like that? He'll better help defender than on ball defender?

Yeah, of course. Especially against big that can move like that. Yeah, I wouldn't, that's why I was saying to y'all, like, yo, back up on him. You can't play him like that. I would rather him test his three-point shot than test his driving. He only shot two threes. You got to do it.

Push that hand down. Go back up. You got to back up. Test it. Unanimous defensive player of the year, though. I mean, I think for me with Kat, I think I always go back to it. I think when that meeting or whatever he had with Mike. Brown. Trying to understand his role.

Understand his role, man. Ever since then, his assist has went up in the playoffs. He knows his role. He's not deviant from it. He's just doing what he has to do. So I just think, you know, I said OG is the X factor, but I think it might be Carl Anthony Towns. Just because

it doesn't matter how you guard him. I think he just knows his role now. He knows he's going to get his shots. He knows he's going to be able to pass, get guys involved. And, you know, he's going to take on the challenge. I mean, this is win or go home. So it's nothing. I mean, people can make hunting the cat all they won't, but the guy has been hooping since that little, that little, you know, that little altercation they had early.

And I just think he's in a better space. Like you said, he saw his mom and all this. He's just in a whole better space right now. You can just see it? So can you look at what Kat's doing both sides of the ball, but particularly on the defensive side, embracing the challenger guard in Wimby, being a factor out there? How much credit does Kat deserve for helping the Knicks take game one in the series? Just stepping up to the challenge.

He understands what's that stake. You're playing for all the marbles now. So why not take the challenge? We know we have other guys that have guarded him and maybe have done a decent job on him in the past, but I'm going to take the challenge of this and making my match-up. So, yeah, why not?

I think he did a decent job on him. Just the pure presence of a big on him, I think makes you think a little more. Shot nine threes. I ain't going to say forced women in nine threes, but it's his presence. That aggression trying to bother the ball may win be settled for those threes, I think.

But offensively, I'm pretty sure a scouting report for the Spurs is, they know that Carl Anthony Towns is the shooter and the blow-by's that happened is when he be hearing in his head that he has to pressure cat, right? Don't let him just stand there and shoot three because he's a decent,

he's a pretty good standstill shooter, so that's the scouting report. So he has to find his range and that. You know you can meet him at the rim, but you don't want to just dare him to shoot it as well. So that foot speed thing that you were speaking of with those two, I think it's whoever's in the front is going to win the race.

I saw in one of the breaks Carl Anthony Town was trying to catch up to Wemby on the break and he just physically couldn't do it and vice versa. Whoever gets going first is going to have the advantage. Wemby flew by him another so it's whoever has they're going to have that advantage

but now Carl Lentine has been playing well he is a major key while the Knicks are in the finals except in a different role than standing out there and shooting six, seven, threes the game I think was huge change for the team. We know where Jalen Brunson is going to be in the fourth quarter, but the first three quarters, ball is moving. Like the first play of the game they ran, right?

Put Carl Anthony Towns in the post, ran Jalen Brunson off the double, come up, got the top of three, top of the key three, things like that, right? It helps his offense evolve because you know that he can score the ball at a high rate. Now, I'm calling it to the time. He's been playing well, and I think he's going to play even better in this series. But, yeah, he's a major key at why the Knicks are here, and I think why they're going to win it. You know how you say they had a meeting in towns, got his confidence? Do you think the Spurge should do that with Fox?

No, it's too late right now. Do you think so? Because I know you hear that Harper's taking over and stuff. I know he hear everything. It's pressure. You've been hearing that all year. Yeah, it's just like the Jaylon Brown. And you don't give him no confidence or England that you're still that guy.

You run a play for him to give him a minute. Whoa, whoa. You're playing about 11 minutes in the fourth quarter. You're not 22 years old. You're not 25 years old. Was he played her? The whole fourth quarter. And he had chances to redeem himself by making plays.

Missed multiple games in the Western Conference Finals with that bad ankle. I mean, Tals was playing a lot of minutes, but he, I don't know where I'm at. What was supposed to do with this? That was earlier in the season. Yeah, that was earlier. You had that conversation with him though. It was earlier in the season. We are in the, we are deep in the final.

No, this is it. This is, we should not be having confidence conversation. This guy's, but he haven't been the same, no. That's because he came back from injury. It looks like the ankle is still bothering him. Labor threw it in the Western Conference House. Like, I'm just telling, they've been playing. He played good in Game 7, though.

He played solid in Game 7. He took us over the top in Game 7. He took us over the top in game seven. The last five games is average at nine points. But we got a nice. I know, like, we talk, we gonna talk, we know you have off nights. But the last five games,

you are averaging nine points. You still need confidence from either the players or the coach, somebody at, come on, man, you got. I mean, I mean, this is the big. Run to play for him, make them feel good. This is the biggest. He got the ball in the hand. He got the ball all the time.

The hell you're talking about. He can take the shot anytime he wants. Yeah, all he got to do is, hey, big fella. Come on this, big a row. Over here. Hey, you know, what you want to play for? Get to the free throw line. Yeah, no, he did not.

He call the plays. , you don't got the freedom. him. He called the plays. I'm surprised him. And he was an all-star this year? He was an all-star this year? You was an all-star.

What do you mean? You could see the difference when he was a plan and how he was bawling. And now, like, you hear, you go trade Fox for him and let Harper be the man. And he's been here now here. No, you were all. No, that's a conversation that we had. Why are they signing him back? That's noise.

That's noise. You hear the, you hear the, you hear the, you know, we have a four-year deal. No, no, we only hear that noise. No, no. he wanted to hear that noise. When you want to hear that noise, you were here. So he didn't come back because he didn't come back because of that noise? No.

He came back because he wanted to take his team. He wanted to be the leader to take him over the top. Yeah, I don't think he came back because it's noise. He won't hoot. No, that young boy was... He's hooping. He's going to do him no matter what. And he's not talented.

He knows how talented he is. All you hear is praise about Dylan Hartlow. But it don't matter. You steal you. And I got my money's in the bank. I was just an all-star. I'm not worried about young fella. He's my young fella.

I'm actually celebrating the fact that he's shining. You got 200 million coming to you from the Spurs. Yeah, I'm not tripping on. They've shown me that they're confident in my skills and abilities. I want them to shine. I want them to thrive. Even if I got to step back and step aside to him. Okay.

If you're going to keep me on this team, I would want somebody like him to be shining in front of me because it's better than. You need that reassurance. Sometimes. Sometimes you do. I'm just keeping them. Depending on who you are. Depending on who you are. Yeah.

I get it. I don't understand that. At that age, at that age, I'm like, you shouldn't. He's a clutch. The All-Star, he's a clutch player? I don't understand that. You know you look in the mirror, man. I mean, you're the only guy.

I don't need nobody to come up to be. Hey, we need you tonight. And that's supposed to flip. That's supposed to flip the switch for you. Hey, big fella, we need you tonight. I'm going to blame me in the finals. As a star you do. As a star you do.

A game one, hey, man, we need you tonight. We need you tonight. We know you're going to start. No, as a star, you just put it on my brain. You just put it on my brain. Bob had to do that to Powell. Win. He had to win.

In the finals, in the Boston. In the Boston city, he had to go. Hey, big fella, let's go. Yeah. Let's turn this motherfucker up. So sometimes it is that. He's a girl, though. Yeah.

But you can't depend on Wimby to do that. Why not? Because Wimby's not the older experienced guy that knows to do that. He's been with Munch. To do what? To go, to go, go on, man. Did you come have to give my vet confidence? No, not confidence.

Hey, man, we need you. No, he's supposed to do that to me. He's supposed to come to me. Hey, big fella, I need you tonight. I need you to go get 50. No, but it's a team, though. It's a team, though. It's a team, no, somebody can't get to chat.

You don't think he needed some confidence sometimes? No, yo. You got to come to. You motherfucker's fragile, man. Come to war ready to. Hey, come to war ready to war. You're confident. It's fragile.

I need you tonight. I don't need to hear that. I need you to night. I need you every night, bro. I don't need to hear you. that when I put that jersey on, man. Like, once I laced my shoes up and put my jersey on, I know, listen, I got a job to go do. Yeah, but some people do, though.

They're fragile. No, I'm Congress off fragile then because Kobe, yeah. Yes, he's fragile because, you know, I'm in this big, this is the first time I'm here. Fragile. Damn, like, I'm nothing to do with fragile. Fragile. Hey, that's a-old used to plan with, a guy he ain't had to do that with? Like, I'm just- Huh?

Who? Colbe ain't have to do that with Shaq? He didn't have to say big fella, I need you to, Shaq knew. I mean, I'm out here. Shaq was the best player. Vice versa. Whatever. So Kobe's the best player.

He don't have. What's vice versa? So I'm going to tell my- Shaq never had to go to. Shaq never had to go to Kobe and say, hey, I need you, young fella. He never had to do that. Day new. I mean, yeah, I'm averaging 35.

They knew. 20. Yeah, but ain't nobody got to come to, like, tip-duck and then have to go to Manuel Geno'i and vice versa be like, hey, Manuel, I need you tonight. No. No. They didn't have to go to Tony. They're not.

They didn't have to go to Tony Park to be like, hey, I'm struggling the last time. I'm sure they have to go to David Robinson. And he was the guy. No. He didn't go who you are. Man, it was MVP of the National Basketball Association. You think, man, as MVP, you think somebody with Dave Robinson at any point and be like, hey, big fella, we need you to become. Like, be 50 tonight.

Yeah, uh, yeah. The admiral. He's an admiral. He's the leader. He's a leader. The admiral is the leader. See what Akeem Olamelelonel did to do? Akeem Elijah did to him.

Hey, man, we need you tonight. What are you doing? We need you tonight. Hey, I could do nothing with you. Okay, so somebody needs to go talk about it. When Shaq played, Akeem, same shit. Come get this word.

And nobody has to go, hey, Big fella, you know he, no, I watched that, I just recently watched that match up. He's a monster. Like, Shaq was going at him, but Akeem is really good. Like, and nobody's going to be like, Dennis Scott would go up to Shaq tonight. Hey, game four.

Hey, fella. And we need you tonight. Mom, man. Like, no, my first year on the finals. Jay kid was a vet. Jay kid around Jay kid and have to come up to me and be like, hey, Kay, you know, we're about to get swept tonight. Like, no, we lost the first two games in L.A.

I came out, I gained three had 26th. Game four had 35. So Kobe going to Paul Gassau means he's fragile? Yes. Here's European, Mr. B., I think it's the champ too. First time in the finals and, you know, I'm playing for the Lakers and Kobe Bryant's coming to my room. Fragile meaning that you're not.

ready for this moment because you haven't been in this moment. So Dennis Robert was fragile too and Mike was like, oh, I got to go to go to Mattis was a tough. I had to go. But I had to go get you in a hotel. Dennis, he wanted to go in a bender, Mr. B. if he wants 40 hours to go down to go down there.

That's Fragle. I need to go to Vegas. That's Fragile. He said, I never had to tell Dennis to be ready for the game. No. He literally said, I never had to worry about Dennis. He had to go get him from the hotel. He could be drunk.

He could be whatever. And Dennis didn't even drink like that. He literally out of night, but I didn't have to worry about that. I see him. I know you're sick. I got you. The bad boys. And who else?

Spurs. So you're not fragile individuals. But what I'm saying, Michael Jordan, what's the difference between Kobe Bryant talking to Paul Gasol and the final thing? Michael Jordan having to go get his teammate, hey man, we got a game. Michael Ford had to play basketball on no part. Because he had to talk to Luke lonely, he said he said he went to, I saw the last day.

He had to take him. Luke, hey, I need you, big fella. He had to tell Bill Winnington. I need you, Bigfellon. Everyone's favorite Canadian. Bill Cartwright, hey, Bigfell, I need you to hit this shot tonight, Bigfella, Horace Grant. I need you to get on the boards, Bigfell.

Because they got to be ready for the moment. He's a guy that he didn't know they was going to be ready for the moment. I need you to step up big for me. I'm just trying to figure out what's wrong with Kobe telling Paul Gasol, hey, man, big fella. But then Michael Jordan got to go get this motherfucker from a hotel. Bring you back. It's too much pressure.

It's too much pressure. Players, they're not the same. They're not the same players. Dennis Robbins. Right. So Paul, Gassar and Kobe Bryant, the same player either. It's the same thing, bro.

I'm just here giving him some advice. Paul Gassau, I can't give you advice. I'm not too, I'm compared to get up for a game. I'm fragile. If somebody tell me, let's go. No, that ain't what you're saying. Let's go back to the Olympics. Kobe Bryant ran through his team, right?

Remember when he ran through his team to send a message? If I need some encouragement. What are his teammate doing that moment? Get back up and play the game. You said, his teammates shrunk in that moment and they lost. They played a lot. You asked.

Nick, if I walk up to you during the game, like, hey, come on, dude, that ain't, that's, that's not the same. That ain't the same with me telling you. I need you tonight. I need you. Nick, I know your confidence has been wavering. So when we running plays. That's the shit you're saying Mike Brown did with that. You're saying Mike Brown had a meeting with that.

No, he didn't. I need you to do this. Oh, did you do that. It was an understanding. It's an understanding. It's an understanding. What's why we're having a meeting with your coach in a meeting and a meeting and we're trying to figure things out.

There's not the role trying to figure things out. Okay. That ain't got to do with my confidence. You plan better and have a confidence is different than figuring out where your role is. But that gives you confidence because I don't know my role. Yes, thank you. Now that you know your roles, you can handle your own confidence.

Thank you. Okay. Okay. The box role is a stark point guard. What are you talking about? You got the previous said superstar, right? Yes. Well, I did.

I did. I treated like, I can't stay on that. I'm not going to stay on that here. I'm not saying that here. I'm not going to die on that here right now. I'm going to come down on that here. I'm coming down off the hill. He's not performing like that right now.

But you can't say if you're going to go to everybody that's supposed to be who they are and say I got to give you confidence to be who you are. But what's wrong with giving somebody confidence? That's wrong with it, my name? That's what I'm saying. Y'all, I'm like he's fragile because if I'm down in a hole, I'm going to stay for 16, three games. And this motherfucker ball is much.

My men is go up and down. I don't know what the fuck going on. You do know what's going on. You know exactly what's going on. He's out playing you. He's out playing you. Like you know exactly what's going on. That young boy is out playing you.

Okay, I have a down game. I get the, just overall, that out boys out playing you. That young boy is out playing him. You're exactly. You're exactly. You're talking about the end of Fox, right? Why are you going to the extreme? That's not what's happening.

What's happening is he's had a bad, he's had a bad playoff. Bitch and Fox. We're not saying Vince Fox, bro. He just said Star Harper. Yeah, I didn't. We didn't just say that. I did. This was a superstar.

Nobody said, I said play them more, especially down the stretch. Because in that particular game that we're speaking of, Deerre Fox wasn't having the best game. He played 11. I'm saying, but in that game. But he had one, though, Nick, that game, right, that game that game that we just played yesterday. But he haven't had one. He wasn't having a decent game in game one. The young boy is playing bad.

16 points. But he's been doing that this whole thing. In this game, Dylan Harper deserves to play more in the fourth quarter. That's all he's saying. That's all. And I ain't got to come to you

with no confidence talk because you know that you are, you three for whatever. Harper plays bad or good. He gets the same praise. Yeah, because he's second-picking of death. He's still supposed to move out the way. Why is it about the way?

Why is it about praise, though? Because you know what? Because you know what? How the fuck do I keep coming to the arena every day boss? Busting my ass, but no matter how this guy played, I got to move out the way. An actual question.

That's all people say. Move out the way. Can ask you a question? He fucking turned the ball over three times, too. Why do you do that? Why do you do that? When you were a rookie, right, were you allowed to make mistakes?

Were you allowed? Be honest, man. Not in the power. Not in the playoffs. Trial by fire. How long did you guys? trial by fire right they put you out there right and people expect that the rookie listen as a rookie people expected you to make rookie mistakes right right as dearen fox is a veteran in this league now on this stage his stage his least whatever for people for fans is shorter people expect them to play better on this stage 100% it just so happens that the spurs had to set

picking a draft last year and they picked this really good basketball player. Young or not? And that's playing great in these playoffs. Max, which they can't do more. It's unfortunate for him right now. But it's a good thing for the team that they have that lean on.

And what we're saying is yesterday, Ms. Johnson should have leaned on that. For the team's sake. And it probably would have been a different outcome. A hundred percent. No. For the team's sake? Deeran Fox don't need a confidence.

He does. He does. He does. Because he's supposed to automatically know what we're doing this for. Like, we can have a conversation. Yeah. I mean, just, just let's talk about the game. Let's talk about the game.

Let's talk about the game. We're doing that and I see it happen. I see he's got a report. We're doing that before the game. All I'm saying. I've seen times when. I'm going to get game two. In the playoffs, when Clay was having a bad stretch.

How do? What Steve Kurt do? We go into Clay. We're building his confidence up. We're going to Clay. first three plays in the game. We're not taking Clay to the side, though. Nick, you're talking about having a side.

We need Clay. We know we don't win without playing. Watching film. And the same coach started Brandon Pajinsky. That's later on. So that, like, we need in these final.

Clay was going to shoot that bitch no matter what. No, that's all right. He was struggling, but guess what he was doing? Still putting it up. Fire that motherfucker. Every time he caught it. He knew he was struggling. Did he not know he was struggling?

Is what I'm saying? Yes. So therefore, you shoot yourself out to slum. I don't need nobody. You're just making it worse. You're bringing the attention to it. No, no, no.

I think you're just making it worse and more pressure on me. You come and talk to me about it. You put more pressure on that. Now if I keep playing bad, if I keep playing bad after the conversation, now it looks like I'm really good. Now I'm looking over my shoulder now. Now I'm starting to wonder like what the fuck is next.

I'm still a store. Then you still get bench for Brandon. I'm still. Then you still eventually get benched for the guy. I'm still. Then I'm better than. Just a quick point about Dylan Harper, he is young and he will turn it over in big moments. And in the fourth quarter at Oklahoma City last Saturday night, he had two huge turnovers that reopened the door twice.

And the one was the one that Hartenstein took off with and should have Ann one dunked it on Cornett and Cornett blocked it at the rim. But that was the Dylan Harper loopy pass up to Wimby, I think it was. that he took off with. So if you're going to go with him to close a game, he is highly capable of turning it over in big moments. And that's what Mitch Johnson does not want. For one, he don't turn it over more than number five. That's for damn sure.

He don't turn that bitch over more than council. What are we talking about right there? You see that? He don't turn. Castle had more turn over game than Dylan Harper had these playoffs. I understand. So therefore, I'm going to. I'm going to live with those mistakes.

Okay. And that's a talk, A, a young fella. Hey. But again, no, that's a conversation and a film watch. Be like, A young fella in this situation, X, Y, Z, A, B, one, two, three, right? But it's not a confidence conversation. All right, but I'm going to say it again. Bill and Harper.

Bill and Harper 30 turnover for the entire post season. Okay, but Dylan Harper had a turnover in the fourth quarter last night, and then he had another one on the fan play, and they, they, they, they, let him get away with it. Okay, but you're talking about the negative thing, right? Okay. Let's talk about the positive ring with three minutes for 46 seconds. They're back three-pointer to put us up 12 against the Oklahoma City Thunder. He did. With three minutes to go. This was after the turnovers. He should line drive three. So you're talking about. They get off the ground like 10 feet. But you're talking about taking a chance on a

number two pick freshman out of college. And he's delivering based on you expecting him to make rookie mistakes like he just said. He's going to turn a ball over, but guess what he does? He makes up for it. Okay. That's what you expect him to do. What he has over Fox is he's a good two inches taller. He's, he's six five. He doesn't play six five to your eye to me, but when he takes somebody down low, he's got all this stuff that, you know, he's got genius, like kid genius down under the basket where he's taller than you think and he can get it up over you faster than you think. So I give you that, but if you're trying to hang in and hang on,

Mitch Johnson is thinking, Deeran Fox has closed. Do you remember Deering Fox in his sack days against your Lakers? I mean, he was a Laker killer. Fourth quarters, third quarters, and Mitch Johnson is saying, I got

I got a go with who got us here. He was the clutch player of the year in 2023. So I'm just not. Yeah. I mean, get Harper. What about the layup? What about the layup for Dylan Harper made the layup underneath the basket,

clutch in the fourth quarter of maybe two minutes to go. This was a bucket that we needed desperately. I give you that. Right? Yeah. They took them out of the game. They did. So when you have someone who can do that, then you take them out of the game.

That's a coaching decision based on who you got on the bench. Deeran, come in, let's take us home. Let's see what you can do. But you're three for 13. I understand. So your point, right? And to your both of you guys' point, right? That's why you coach each individual game, right?

You do. You coach each, listen, it's each quarter in the finals. In the playoffs, and especially in the finals, you coach each quarter, each time out. Like, it ain't like I'm sticking with who got me here at this point, right? Like, no, at this point. No. Trust me, dog. You go with what's supposed to, what's going to get the job done right now.

Because you're adjusting every time. Darren Fox is struggling at this point. We know it. Dylan Harper, hey, you, hey, did he got the statute over there? Somebody didn't told, hey, you look at that at a half time? He saw when he first came out? Yeah, yeah. I was like, hey, Dylan Harper got 10 and a half time.

He did a job. And they little huddle in the timeouts in their little huddle. I'm pretty sure one of the assistant coaches was like, we probably want to get D. Hart back in. You might want to get that energy. We need that energy back in there. that decision that he didn't want to. That's the conversation that's in the muddles that he went to get.

And he can hit the shots. I think you got to coach each timeout, each quarter, each half. It's different. You've got to coach that to win. I don't think in that particular moment, Mitch Johnson did. It's different being a starter than coming off the bench. Okay.

And one other quick point to you about Jordan, because I was there in 98, Jordan and Rodman. Yeah. Okay, remember, Michael didn't go get him to try to get him. him to play better like I need you to play better. He went to get him because he'd gone completely AWOL out of his mind over the edge. He just needed

him to play period, right? Like just, like he didn't, he didn't have to go give him a pep talk. He went and took him by the throat and said you were going to come play the game it was, right? We want to win. Because he was being fragile. No, no. He was being

Dennis. He missed the work. He was being dead. Like, listen, you ain't for the fuck of my chair. You're not going to fuck this up. So the same thing, I get the fogg us off. You're not going to fuck up my championship. You're not what the fuck. What's the difference?

I'm just trying to what's the difference. They both went and grabbed both by the neck, basically. It worked for the difference. One of them is a two-time champion already, bro. Okay. The other one ain't never been here before. Okay. Look a little bright-eyed.

So why you, so that's why. I need you, Paul White made up. And they all talked about practice how they challenged each other in practice. Hey, listen, just hear me out. I don't want to throw shots at him, but he was a very skilled basketball. Yes, very skilled. Two-time NBA champ.

But we, as Biggs around the league, we thought he, the ticket wasn't all the way together. You can go at him. That was a synopsis around him. That was, I'm telling him, very skilled. Paul, it's skilled. But the synopsis amongst Biggs, if you have the conversation with us fours and fives, then hit him early. You hit him early and often. He going to defer.

Bark at him. So that was a synopsis. So Cole went to this man be like, hey. Okay, I need to be a dog. Fogh, fuck what people think, use your skill again. Like, you ain't got to be that, but your skill is enough. Right. But that's what he did.

That ain't what the conversation Michael Jordan had with Dennis Rock. No. He didn't need to have it. Wait, no. But that was. But I need to go grab you because we got to win this. Should that be worse with it? Because you're being reckless.

Okay, you're being reckless and I got to get too. That's not fragile. Should that be even worse? That's not fragile. That's not fragile person won two championships on y'all? No, listen. What'd you say? That should be worse.

That somebody fragile won two championships. And I still got to go grab you by the neck and you're acting like you don't know what time it is. What now? He went two championships. There's a lot of frasasas. But the major part, Dennis was fragile. There's a lot of fragile. There's a lot of fragile people got ridden.

Because Kobe got him tough. Yeah, they said he had the conversation. Yeah, that's what they're saying. They're saying. He got the confidence. He got the confidence. What you just said what Mike Brown did with Kat. When he got traded, they went to the finals.

Bro, what you just said, that Cat needed with Mike Brown to understand his role to have him play better. Kobe had the same conversation with Paul to say, listen, in order for us to win, you need to beat the first year he got there. They didn't go to the finals for the second year. He made him tough.

He helped his confidence, like you said. You need confidence. He helped it. I believe that. That's what I'm saying. I have a secret, y'all. What's the problem? I have a secret.

Can you have a secret? You want a secret? I have a secret. I have a secret. Everybody covered her mind? Everybody covered your mind. I got a secret. The year that we're speaking of that this happened in 2009, 2010, Lakers, the year they won it,

you know who they had to play against to get there? Who y'all? Denver. The Denver Nuggets. So I'm speaking on facts here, man. No, no, no, I'm not, no, no. I'm not, no, I'm not saying that like he doesn't. But we knew what, nay, nay and all those, we knew.

Be tough, we'd eat. What the assignment was. Yeah, so be tough on him. That guy over there, we know what he was going to do. Okay. Kobe Bean Bryant. We knew that there was a tall task. Their second best player is Paul Gassau.

Yes. Right? Yes. We're going to take it out on him. Yep, take him out of the game. Let Bean do what he do. We got to double him. We're going to beat this guy up.

Okay. Lamar, you got to show up. Lamar got to play, but we know what L.O. going to do. Was mine him there, too? But it was. first year? Him. I know, I know,

I know, but I was behind him there. Like, they didn't be scoring and they needed that skill set of Paul Gasol brought passing and all that. They didn't need him to waver and be out there just shooting jump shots. No, no, I get, yeah. So that was the conversation. That was the conversation. Confidence conversation.

Like, hey, dude, fuck, like, we know what kid. We know they're, but fuck them. I'm saying? Like, face his ass up. Shoot that. Go to your shit. Go to your shit. Like, don't worry about all that.

So it worked then. So why? You shouldn't do that. I'm not saying anymore. I don't need that. Fox is not going through what I'm soft fade. He's the NBA Clutch player out of year. Be what you're supposed to be.

Like, yeah, like you just said, if you're the NBA club, that was three years ago. So that was three years ago. So when Dennis won his rings, you're out here acting records, now I got to come grab you. Come on, you know what time it is. Yes.

You know what time it is. You've been an NBA champ. Why I got to come get you? You know what time it is. I'm a champ, man. I'm cool. I'm churn. I'm in Vegas.

It's snowing out here. I'm going out here. Hey, Mike, hey, listen, I hear you. I'm going to be there. I trust you. I'm going to fuck with you. I'm going to spend like a brewery, but, hey, I'm going to be there. I had to come, I have to get four to eight hours.

You don't need to see how I don't need to have that confidence. I don't see how he just need to step up to the moment. That young boy behind him is putting that pressure on, man. Oh, yes. That's what making it a little bit. I don't see how he thinks. I don't see how. I don't need to be no confidence.

No, no. The pressure is there. Listen, why don't it? You know this young boys. We're in the finals, Nick. They were in the finals. But you're talking to say, Walgansaw was in the Western Conference finals.

Or the final. He did this when he got there, bro. In 2009, 2010, he had to have the conversation before. Remember, in 2008, he had to run through him in the Olympics. But it works, though. If it works.

For some people need that, Nick, during the course of the season, Nick. I agree with you. Some dudes need that. I yes but you got even Blake in no confidence did we not that's in the playoffs against Memphis remember do we do this late is Blake fragile but but I'm just saying like Frank do it you're shrinking and you need confidence you out it works you look at is Blake fragile it worked was that ain't right I'm not I'm not

no he don't want to fucking do that shit all the time very don't hear like but but but but you can't but but you I'm calling somebody fragile, but they still win, though. Like, because all you said fragile, two-time MVP. Both things can exist. Both things can exist, Nick. Two-time champion. Both things exist.

Averages 20 and 12. Someone ejected confidence in him because he wasn't ready for the moment. Both things can exist, Nick. What you mean? You can be a winner. Why? Ain't nothing soft about giving your player confidence if you see him down. You're having to, if he's struggling right now.

What's wrong with going up to your man's and uplifting him? We're not saying there ain't nothing wrong with it. We just don't need it right now. That ain't the thing that's his problem. That's not his problem. So what's the stage? All right, all right. So you're saying that nobody can like should help him,

but what's the difference between when PJ Tucker was playing with the Bucks and he was the main guy giving everybody confidence around you? We're not saying nobody should help him. What do you mean? But being a leader, like being a leadership, like PJ Tucker, he wasn't the best player on the team, but, but his voice and everything around there was the reason why they had to That didn't exude confidence.

That's just being a... So y'all think Fox don't got confidence out there right now? There's no leader out there to help him. I'm not asking the question. So why is he? Do y'all don't think that Fox has playing with confidence? No, he can't be the leaders. Is Fox playing with confidence?

He is playing with confidence? I don't feel like... You don't feel like he's playing with confidence. But I'm just saying, it's just certain guys on teams that, yes, okay, Robert Dori, he was the big voice up in the locker room. Shacken was winning championship. Like, he's a role player. Like, these are guys who can, just because you're a role player,

you can still talk to the start. We're not saying you're not talking to him. But that's talking and conversations. That's all building. Like, bro, absolutely. What he's saying is in this moment of the finals, this moment is big enough for you to develop your own self-confidence and be ready for this moment, man. Okay. So if that would have to-you-old-you-old, if that was Janice last night, if P.J. Tucker came to the locker room, he's going to shoot everybody out.

And also, Janice. And Janice is going to understand that. But that ain't giving confidence, Nick. Yes, it is. I mean, Brett. Yes, it is. That's, I'm telling you what time of it is. That ain't giving confidence.

My leadership. That's accountability. That's accountability. Like, come on, we need you. Come on, man. Y'all act like we never been in the locker room. And God's face. Come on, man.

And what he just said, that's holding people accountable. And leadership and giving confidence to at the same time. Y'all saying about the cat shit is you saying that Mike Brown had a side conversation to give cat confidence in the role he's playing for the team. Y'all moving the goalposts around now. It's the same thing. No, it's not. It's not.

It's clearly not the same thing. thing because Ms. Johnson don't need to take Deeran Fox and take him to the side and be like, listen, man, I need you to play better, man, I need you to do this. Diarran knows he knows he needs to play better. He knows he's not playing well. He knows that the shots are going to go down at some point. He just need to keep playing. Don't say him.

But come to him and be like, listen, we need you to play best. They all know. We have a shot to win. We need you. Nobody talks like that. I don't think they need to tell him. But nobody talks like that. Like, come on, man, we're talking about a real conversation between a coach

like we're breaking down the game we're talking about we're not saying hey bro play better so we can no come on man we've been in locker rooms that's why I need more clarification but you know but you all what I'm talking about yeah bro the examples that y'all are giving it's the same thing for Mike Brown so like he said

the example you just gave it's holding guys PJ Brown I mean PJ Tucker coming in the that's holding guys accountable that's not exude confidence in guys it's not because you're going to self-acare No, but if-

But you're looking at ourselves like, You're just talking about one thing. You're just talking about accountability. If I'm going to do accountability, I'm going to do everything, accountability, leadership. I'm going to talk about all the things in one. Everybody's different on the team. So that means, bro, I know you down, but we got you. Yeah.

Don't worry about like, yo, we know you're going to get that. You hear that for your team, come. Nothing's wrong with that. You hear that for your team. But that is not the same as Mike Brown having a side fucking conversation with fucking cat. It's not the same thing, bro. Y'all talk about a leader. in the locker room having a group

of discussing saying, hey man, we need boy, I need to be the leader. That's different than, hey. Ms. Johnson, you need to go have a side conversation with Deeran Fox and give him confidence. I just say, Ms. Johnson. Well, sufficient finals discourse for this moment. We've got a few other things to talk about.

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in disbelief. Let's take a look at the video if we can, please. So, midway through the final frame, fan decided to run onto the court during game action and take a selfie with the alien in the midst of a turnover swaggy.

Play was ruled a jump ball. Both Wimby and Mitchell Robinson appeared to strike a pose for the camera. You can see Wimby appears to crack a smile. Mitchell Robinson gave the fuck face. Both looked at the camera, though, to try and get into the flick. After the game,

Wimby was asked about the moment had this response. What was going through your head and did you smile for the picture? I've never been in that situation. I didn't know how to act. And it really surprised me almost as much as that time where a bat crushed the court. Wembe, very surprised, did manage to smile for the selfie. But here's the fans, a POV of the moment.

That video dropped on the internet today. That's hard, real. Attention! So as you may have noticed, was not able to actually get women in the selfie. Mitchell Robinson also not actually features the fan in the second individual involved in the incident received a lifetime ban from the league. Damn. Lifetime ban.

You can never go back to an NBA game for the rest of your life. The hell you mean life. Hell no, I ain't doing that life. Does the name Bokie Johnson mean anything to you Swaggy? Back to myself. With your reaction. To the fan running on the court during the game to try and take a selfie with Wimby. Oh, no, I want to hear Brandon one first.

Does the fan need a pep talk? No, I just hate stuff like that because things like that changes the game, just the momentum, just the way things go. And it's the finals. Like, I know everybody wants to go viral and get their moment, but, I mean, can't. People are just always trying to get some attention. So, I mean, I'm not really a fan of that. You don't like that? No.

No, especially when it's the biggest, most. of somebody's career and game. No, like, let's sit, sit down, and have some etiquette and watch the game. Yeah, I like when the football players take matters in their own hand when they do it in the NFL. You were not posing for the flick with the fans? You run up on me the wrong way, dude.

You know what it is. Gee boo. You run up on that court, yes, you're in my work environment. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. Good for ratings.

Yeah. We were talking about it right now. This is a content. Man, nobody never ran on the court when Mike was in the finals. Yeah, this is the different world right now. That makes the fans want to watch more. Somebody just ran on the damn court. It's just like anything else.

They're doing this locker all the time. They do it all the time, man. No, man, you do that in a crucial moment, bro. First of all, that was a turnover on Harper, right? He was. So that's how many people missed it Like, damn, what happened? Right?

I was happy they showed it. I missed it. What time? You know, they're all this shit. Normally, though, cut away, not show replays. Somebody going to do it in New York, what? ABC up here to embrace the moment. They probably paid them to do it.

No, you're not. Nobody doing that show. No, you're not, because whoever do that and you cost the Knicksick. No, they're not doing that shit in the garden, trust me. Yeah. And if you do, listen, them's New York security is a lot rough, and they hounded you right there. I can tell you that shit.

Look how they did Charles. Look how they carried Charles Oakley out of that motherfucker. And I was there. I was on the bill. I saw a deal dole's on on the World Cup. Come on, man.

That's, man. They're doing everything. Yeah, all for attention. Green dildos on the WBA. You can do anything for attention. This is an attention-driven society right now. That shit was, yeah.

But I say, it's okay to throw a green dildo on the WMBA court, that's hilarious. No, no, that was. So you know, that's hilarious. That's hilarious. That's hilarious. That's funny.

No, he brought it. I said, though, I forgot. That's hilarious. That's funny. That's like somebody. No, no more. No, no, that's not. That's the thing.

That's the funnyest. That's the same as somebody. Then she pick it up. Then she pick it up, man. And look at it like. That's not the same because. Is this mine? That's not the same because you don't know if that person crazy or not.

Is this way you get this? I love it. A person and throwing a toy. I love it. But if they're screaming whimby, they may be a fan. I'm like that. It's in San Antonio. It's in San Antonio.

He was waiting for that moment. Y'all remember the situation a few years ago in Denver with a chick, went on the court? Nah. You don't remember that a few years ago? The chick, uh, maybe 2014, 20, 3rd, the chick ran on the court. Look it up.

What's she doing? She ran after you? She was looking for Kenya. I think of your work running on the court. That's different. No, she had gone. I ain't never met this woman. So, Rashad, you want the floodgates open now?

They didn't have a floodgate. It wasn't a flood gate. Now you want every influencer to just start running on to the floodgate. No, that was just one. Yeah, that was just one. No, it's a coffee cat world. And she said, where's Kenyon? 2012, I believe.

Hold on, hold on. A 2012 NBA playoff female fan walked on the court during the game between the Nuggets and Lakers. She walked towards Nuggets point guard, Ty Lawson, while play was active. Prompting the referee to stop play with security apprehended her, she asked, where's Kenyon?

That was a moment of her. Did it feel good just leave me? I was trying to enough that a fan would interrupt the I was playing for the 2012 I was playing for the Knicks No but where were you on the court? I wasn't there

He didn't hear no I wasn't in no real oh I thought you were there I was playing for a different team Where's Canadian you left the lasting impact? Yes I wasn't there Was it some snow No no snow

no no no snow I'll be doing that No there's snow no when to go They know not to say your name either Don't you be saying my name I never met her. That's the thing about I had never met her. Yeah, we never met her, Ken.

You don't think that would take? Don't think, hey, but I would say? I'm fucking, me. Not taking the responsibility. What they're saying, church? Yeah, I didn't do the whole lot. I ain't taking responsibility. Scrashing the head?

Ball-headed ass lie. Skip, let's shift over to you, covered a lot of finals, seen a lot of basketball. Have you ever seen a situation quite like this in the NBA finals? And what was your reaction to that fan trying to run on the court to take a selfie with Wimby? I don't remember this. I've seen it in regular season games,

and the big difference between your sport and the National Football League is there are usually walls that you have to jump over, so you have to make a real effort to get on a football field. But to your point, you will be punished by the people on the field if you run on the field, because they are going to knock your little ass down before the security even gets to you.

But I was slightly disappointed in the spur security. They were a little slow on the draw, I thought, because it happened and they just sort of got caught off guard. And the reason it bothers me is that we do live in two worlds. We got the social media world, and we got the, I'm just going to say it, We got the terrorist world out there. And a lot of people want us to go down,

and it's supposed to be the last bastion of protection is these games, and it's a big deal to all of us, and we all kind of live for these moments. And it's a threat where you're like within reach of people in the first three rows. And I just think you have to send a really harsh message, and I know it's just a kid. I don't know how all the kid was, but there are two of them, and cahoots. They were cahooting.

Yeah. And I think you've got to arrest and prosecute just to send a message. You can't. That's just me. And I know they're banned for life. Lifetime Batship. They can't even go to Wizards games. Well, I understand.

But the VA's office in San Antonio, in Bexar County, said they couldn't comment yet because it's a juvenile. So I don't know what you can do to the juvenile So maybe you can't prosecute Banned him till he's 18? Slapp on the wrist Yeah And I know it's just like kid stuff Kid behavior but it just shakes me

I don't know You don't know how to act slow motion Yeah And my thing is with bans right for life Right So they ban you from buying tickets So my thing is somebody you can Oh easy you could have somebody

You can get to the arena man If you want to go to a game there's like, ain't nobody looking for nobody sitting in section 317. I don't think. Like, I, like, so everybody ain't got a little facial recognition technology in every arena where it's just going to flag your face. This ain't, this ain't, this ain't, I'm sick. It's just going to put on some makeup.

It's not, it's not my six. Game two to say, yeah, y'all can't. And just dressing like somebody else. Or you come to the game as a fanatic, you didn't paint it your face in team color and all this. How they going to, like, come on. Come on, man. Yeah, they didn't stop throwing them dildo. That's what I'm saying.

So they still get the million, right there. They're looking right on there. The person went to the same, the next game? Next game, very next game. Very next game. Very next game. Two up, it's like double. Boom, moon.

Red and green. Double fitter and Tracer. Did they ever catch who did that? No. Nah. And then they did it at the football game too. They went in the football game for no reasons. It's a screen.

Just like, yeah. Like, my thing is like you can't, like you can band. Like, you heard the band. You can't implement it. I don't feel. Like, it's, you don't have the technology. Can't go to the Intuit Dumb, I would imagine. Yeah, I wouldn't go there.

They got technology in that joint. That's scary. Golden One was the one in San Francisco. They got a lot of technology in that. They got a lot of technology in that joint. But me too, they can guard, that's fucking ancient as it can possibly be. Well, speaking of San Francisco,

Somebody just ran out there. Let's shift over to our favorite light skinned guard. So Steph Curry, a sneaker-free agent for most of this season, after ending his 13-year partnership with Under Armour back in November. But earlier this week, Curry announced he signed a 10-year endorsement contract with Chinese sports apparel company Lee Ning. So according to the report by Shams, the deal is worth $400 million with other reports saying it could surpass a billion based on a revenue sharing agreement.

The deal will include basketball products, athleisure lifestyle wear, a full golf line. and the ability for Steph to sign athletes under his brand, and Lee Ning plans to build Curry brand stores in the United States and in China. So Mr. B will start with you as a former member of Under Armour with Steph. Big advocate for Curry brand. We've done a collapse in the past. We have your thoughts on Steph Curry taking his curry brand to Lee Ning.

Well, I mean, if you're going to end it, I mean, wait, he got a couple more years. I mean, that's his bling right there. I mean, I'm happy for him, for sure. I mean, being able to, I mean, I feel like Under Armour should have definitely did this. They should have went into golf with him, but, I mean, you know, he had to go another way for him. He'll have a lot more leverage. He'll be in China. He'll be able to have stores.

And, you know, everybody knows Steph loved golf. So the one part I loved is that he will be doing a golf line, which is really big because golf has became so big after COVID. And the lane that he's going and being in China and who he is, it's all going to work out for him. So I'm just happy he was able to find a home and be able to, you know, $1.9 billion in 10 years. 1.9, okay, I guess. Shams said 400. Somebody else said potentially over a billion. I mean, based on how much products he's able to move.

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure he's going to move product, China. Oh, my God. He's going to be able to move products. Neathow. That's why you just came from China. Yeah, man. That was a great move. Dollar-dollar bills, y'all.

Going to lean, well, China loves stuff. I've seen that first. When he played out there, I don't know who was besides him. The only person that was like a rock star was like Kobe, but they was all just waiting at the airport and all that. So I feel like that's a big move. He go there every summer. He does his clinics and out there in China.

For me, I just wish he had a Nike shoe. I wish he had a Nike shoe. I think Steph could have. I think his shoe could have been bigger than LeBron's on his side, for real, if he had a Nike shoe. Unlikely. But I'm just glad to see him, you know, open up doors for itself and for other people, you know, start something new. People love stuff. He's the golden child.

That's not a bad move on lean-ne-neeing, whatever. He is the golden child, Leaning, not to be confused with Ling-Ling. Isn't DeWing Wade and all those spots? Duane Wade, Jimmy Butler, I think we're part of the impede. just for Steph to go over there. He said he put their shoes on. And you got to do is get rid of Delo, though. Delos, Neen. Leaning. You got to get rid of him.

A little Deelow. What do you think about, Steph Curry, signing 10-year endorsement deal with Lee Ning. It's obviously a great deal for him. He's 38. I don't know how many more years. You guys think he'd play? A couple, three, I don't know. But it's a great sort of segue into retirement deal with their. the golf line that you bring up, which I think is really big to him. And I'm just going to mention this because I don't know enough about it to comment, but my only slight surprise was that Leaning merchandise in 2022 was banned in the United States

because reportedly they're a forced work company in China, and I just don't know enough to comment on it. But to your point, Jimmy Butler was already doing it, and Dwayne Wade, and so I can't blame Steph. I just thought his image is so squeaky clean that he wouldn't even tempt fate on this to be associated. But I don't know enough to know what's going on. Maybe you guys know more about that situation in China.

It's like a lot of factories in China's making a lot of different products. A lot of different stuff is going on. Yeah. Did read the article too? It seemed to be very pronounced in there. It had me scratched my head a little bit too. Same by necessary, but... But now they say they're going to open all kinds of Steph stores in the United States.

And obviously, there's a huge Asian population in the Bay Area that loves Steph. And you could... I mean, isn't he the most... Is he the most popular athlete in the NBA, for sure? To me... Yeah. I mean, to me, he's a little... Maybe one more.

Like the average person in the world just, yes. I mean, isn't it slightly beyond LeBron? Because LeBron's got sort of mixed. But there's two LeBron skippers, I just remember. Well, there are. It might be third. But Steph has no negativity to him, right? It's 50, 50.

Yeah. Like, Steph could run for president. Right? He could. It's like the average. Yeah. Like, the average person he gets hope to, like everybody. Yeah.

I mean, look, bro, Steph is 6-3. Who? Hey, no. Let's shift up. Over to this side came, what's your reaction to? A Knicks thumb or just a regular cane? No, more power to me, man, to... Josh Hart Thumbor.

Cash out on your way out in this manner to keep your legacy going. For the game, through the game, basketball and golf. So yeah, now, shout out to Steph and his team and making it obvious what the goal was, wearing different shoe brands throughout the season. So, yeah, no, if you're going to cash out, why not? In this manner, you got creative control. That's it.

Why not? That's it, creative control. Last but not least, Sean, what you think about Steph, signing 10-year deal with Leadinging. Get your money. A dollar-dollar bills. Get your money. 30 times.

Get your money. A billion. It could be worth up to a billion, according to some reports. Shams had it at $400 million. Either way, a lot of bread. What was it, 12 million, 300 to 10 million? 12 year, 300 million to a 10 year, potential one point something.

Yeah. Set yourself up, man. Yeah. Don't even matter who making the shoes. Is that better than getting the ring? What? Going out? Like signing a billion dollar deal on the way out?

Better than getting a ring? I already got over. Well, I mean, if you don't get one, I mean. You're going to get it. The worst thing. Yeah, I mean, okay. It ain't the worst thing. You play two more years and you don't get one.

Yeah. Knowing that you're going out. You want one, but it ain't the worst thing. If you was Nike, would you have paid them? Nope. No. No. Yes.

I would. You know why? I would get him five. Whatever you want. Let me give you the blueprint why I would do it. If I'm Nike and I see that Steph Curry could be the next Tiger Woods of golf. Oh, my God. I'm going to now reinsert the Tiger Woods that we let go.

And now, guess what? Guess who? Guess who's playing golf a lot more? They got a better chance doing that with... Knickers? No. New York Knickers?

No. Not New York Knickers, but just knickers, period. There's a lot of athletes playing... There's a lot of athletes playing golf. They already have enough. Yeah, they got a better chance over Bron. Listen, they got... So you talk about having kids want to play golf now?

You talk about Steph Curry actually being really good at golf. Like, and go playing the PGA tour golf. Like, he's playing with fucking Scotty Sheffler. and all of these dudes. He's not that good. He trusts me. No, he's not. He's good enough to play with Michael George.

See, we can go out there and play with him. He's still. He's still. He's going to play. I'm a par. I'm a par for salt one time. I've seen the whole in one here. I've seen the hole in one.

I said, you're good enough. You're good enough. He's still going to shoot some threes in the next two years. No, I got to go, right. Now, I like, now, now, listen, I like the approach to China because if, Because if we're going to go golf, I mean, just think about the world. Like, now he's in China, and they love to play golf. And listen, he can inspire way more over there.

You got Brown over here at Nike. You got Devin Booker that can do a golf line. Who else? Jason Tatum can go into golf with Jordan. Jordan has his own golf. Like, you want to stay away from all that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, Steph, like, Steph.

Y'all not bigger than me. Brown is. At Nike, Braun is? You said what? At Nike, Braun is? Only because he's been in Nike So that's the point of my I'm saying, why would I go, so I would go team up with him

when I was going to do my own thing? Because y'all going to pay me more than him. No, you're not. Nike's not going to pay him for it. Steph, Brun got a shooting at Nike. No, listen, at 38 years old, you're going to give step, like, what are you? No, you're not.

No, you're not. Steph has a better. Steve Kerr. Bro, Steph has a better chance for making his own money and doing his own thing on his own. I am not team. up with LeBron James and all these people over here at Nike that I'm better than,

and then I got to go under the window because I ain't been here. No, forget that. There's a lot of people in Ling Ling too, though. None of them are better than Steph Curry. And still playing. So at the end of the day, him signing there, now I'm the guy. He's waiting for the shoes and he ain't played in years. You saying Nike couldn't do that with Steph Curry?

On that note, Ken, you had to leave a little bit early planning the New York Knicks Championship parade. They have a Zoom call right now with James Dolan, potential Charles Oakley as well. But before we go, I want to get your guys predictions for game two of the NBA finals. Shaddy, you said this was going seven. So one game is not necessarily going to make or break this series. We still got at least three more, if not six more left. Who are you taking in game two of the NBA finals? Too much good basketball, man. I knew this was going to happen. Like I said, man, I got the call from William Wesley, told me who was going to win the game. I knew So that's why I'm hearing my Knickers, my Knickers jersey.

It's going to be Spurs next game. It's going to go the same way to the OKC Thunder series win. Going to trade blows. Everybody's going to adjust. It's going to be good basketball throughout. I don't think it was a dominant performance by the Knicks. I think that they just got out executed down the stretch by a very surgical player in Jalen Brunson, which I said is a very, very, very good player.

and his experience and leadership pushed him over the top. Now next game, I think and hope that they get together as the Spurs conglomerant, which means Tim Duncan, Dave Robinson, Pop, everybody come together and figure out how to help the young guys rally and keep their composure down the stretch and make an adjustment with the Aaron Fox and Harper thing, but I'm going Spurs for sure. Swangler shift over to you game two. Who are you taking Knicks or Spurs?

I'm taking the Knicks. Like I said, I think it's going six. I would say five, but the NBA need to make a little bit more money. But it don't matter with the Knicks if they sweep or go five. Everybody's still going to watch. The city's still going to love everything about New York. But, you know, I'm picking the Knicks. You know, they got the better small ball team.

One through five. All right, Mr. B. See, you're rocking your very own vintage brand of Jenny's next shirt? Yeah. It's hard because they both played, they both didn't play great. And if you listen to Jalen Brunson, he said they didn't play their best either. And, you know, Fox had a bad game, Wimby had a bad game. A lot of guys in the Nix didn't shoot well. But I'm going to go with the spurs on this one. I think they make the adjustments. Yes, they're young, but they've been proven all year that they can, you know, come back

and, you know, win games, you know, when the pressure's on. So, you know, with that, you know, with the championships and everything. You said, Knicks and five, and you're going to change? I got to be a realistic. I know, but it ain't about it. Spurs got to win one game. No, no, it is about being realistic. Because we got to look at what the Spurs have done and everything,

so I'm going to go with the Spurs in game two. Wow. Skibble shift over to you. Game two Friday in San Antonio. Knicks took game one. Who do you got winning game two? I got the Knicks in six, but the Spurs in game two and to your point, if you look at the Spurs all year,

backs to wall, they've been really, really mentally tough. See games four and six against the Thunder. in the previous round in San Antonio. They have to win this game. They just, this is, to me, this is do or die. This is avoid sweep kind of a game. And I think they will avoid sweep. But still lose the series.

Yeah. I feel like, I feel like Skip is thinking he's trying to jinxes. That's all it is. He tried to jinx us against the OKC Thunder. And he tried to say, man, we've seen OKC do this before. We've seen them do this against Indiana. We've seen them lose. He's trying to put this little mojo on us

because he don't want to root for the spurs, which is weird. I don't get it. I don't get how you can pick the Knicks. I think the Spurs. I don't get how you can pick the Knicks out of all teams. You've been arguing against Stephen A. Smith for 20 years and you're going to go pick the Knicks. I'm happy for Steven Xx.

That's crazy. I even wore my orange shoes for him today. A little tip of the captain. Oh, okay. Because he's finally going to win a championship. All right. And again, you don't get it because I haven't rooted for the Spurs for 10 years, 10 years. 10 years ago.

Yeah. It's not too long ago, Skilled. You can still come back home. They still want you around. I went home. I went home. You did. You went to Cancun too.

That's where you had at. You went to Cancun getting the Pena Colada in a nice tan. You know what I'm saying? I'm already on record. The Thunder will win it all next. year, if healthy, with Jalen Williams and A.J. Mitchell, you would be in Cancun right now. You know what that was? Skip. So if the next win game two, are we saying sweep? No, I think. I would say sweep off that.

You would? Yes. Go into it. I think the Spurs will win four and five, if anything. Well, listen, I think if the, okay, we'll wait and see. We were waiting to see. Let's not get too far ahead ourselves. Game two Friday in San Antonio. Appreciate everybody in the chat for pulling up. Appreciate everybody on this couch. Appreciate our crew as well. You guys are appreciated it. All out there.

But this has been another episode of Gilles Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa. We will see you next way. Hey, crew!