Gil's Arena - LeBron James' Future With The Lakers FIRES UP Gil's Arena
Episode Date: July 1, 2025LeBron James' Future With The Los Angeles Lakers FIRES UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to LeBron James re-signing with the Los Angeles Lakers for one more season and brea...k down what LeBron & Rich Paul were really saying with their comments on this decision. They debate if LeBron will stay in LA despite the team's failure to improve around him and dive into the rumors that this could be King James' final season in the NBA. They then react to LeBron's teammate Austin Reaves declining his extension with the Lakers and debate if Lemon Daddy could be moved to help build around LeBron & Luka Doncic. Next, they move to the young King as they react to the NBA setting up a Cooper Flagg vs Bronny James showdown to kick off NBA Summer League and debate how the Dallas Mavericks' #1 overall pick will fare as he prepares to start his NBA Career against one of the toughest matchups in Summer League. They then react to another big name staying in Los Angeles as James Harden agreed to re-sign with the Los Angeles Clippers and break down what this move means for Harden and Kawhi Leonard as they look to push them towards an NBA Championship, before reacting to more moves across the NBA like Julius Randle & Naz Reid staying with the Minnesota Timberwolves and Colin Sexton getting dealt for scraps. Finally, they check back in on the Ace Bailey saga as the infamous draft pick finally landed in Utah after blowing off the Jazz after the NBA Draft and debate if the trouble is behind the young guard as starts his NBA Career before reacting to the shocking news of DeAndre Ayton's buyout and debate where the former #1 overall pick will land this summer. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Kenyon Martin, Brandon Jennings & Swaggy P Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Fetch a FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag for your Dog. Go to https://ruffgreens.com/arena and use promo code ARENA. Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! / discord 0:00:00 – 2 Min Timer 0:02:01 – Show Start 0:08:30 – LeBron Re-signs With The Lakers 0:28:39 – LeBron & Luka's Future In LA 0:37:54 – LeBron Doesn't Care About Ring Chasing 0:50:26 – Austin Reaves Declines Extension In LA 0:56:27 – Cooper Flagg vs Bronny James In The Summer League 1:08:19 – James Harden Stays In LA 1:34:29 – Julius Randle & Naz Reid Stay In Minnesota 1:45:27 – Ace Bailey Finally Arrives In Utah 2:10:14 – DeAndre Ayton Gets Bought Out 2:24:43 – MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Glorious Monday here in the arena, free agency.
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How everybody feeling?
Feeling good.
Feeling good.
Why are you always with it?
That's your East Coast team?
That's my East Coast team.
The Washington Uncs.
Ain't no jumping sides.
No, no, that's my East Coast team.
You think they gonna make the playoffs?
That's not the point of being a fan
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He said he just he looked at what numbers were available. So fucking give me one. Yeah, just
12
Try 12. Just give me one.
Hey man, do what you do best, man.
Whoever's over there with your number,
just offer them a price that they can't refuse, man.
Don't start your legacy off with a number
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Wait, he got number 12?
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Like Brendan Heywood had my number.
Yeah, zero?
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So back then you couldn't wear double zero and zero.
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They still don't do it, right?
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So when did you buy those?
When did you buy those?
Kobe gave them to me.
When did you buy those?
Kobe gave these to me.
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Oh, he gave you those?
Yeah.
With the price tag on it?
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It's the Kobe tag, it ain't price tag.
Oh, okay.
Kobe being buying.
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I thought with everything that's going on.
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And you didn't offer those to me?
No, I know how you been.
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You tried to sell me the last game with the autograph on it.
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LeBron opted into the final year of his deal with the Lakers
But will this be King James final year in the league and will he finish the season with the Lakers?
Which part some interesting comments that we will discuss.
Jason Kidd says he wants Cooper Flag to play some point guard in his rookie season.
Can the number one pick handle running the one in the league?
And the Blazers decided to buy out DeAndre Aiden, making him an unrestricted free agent.
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Currently, but this is just after one week.
Okay.
Okay.
After the first week, who's?
Damn, I didn't know he was doing all that.
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So we're gonna talk about Kenyan's favorite subject.
We have some big news coming out of Los Angeles.
We're gonna talk about Kenyon's favorite subject. We have some big news coming out of Los Angeles.
The Lakers' quest for a 20-26 chip.
Got some reassurance this weekend, or so we think.
Sunday it was announced LeBron is opting into
his $52.6 million player option
with the Lakers for the 25-26 season.
This is the first time Bron has opted into
the final year of a deal in his career.
So LeBron's agent Rich Paul had this to say about his client's decision to exercise his
player option with the Lakers for next season.
He said quote, LeBron wants to compete for a championship.
He knows the Lakers are building for the future.
He understands that, but he values a realistic chance of winning it all.
We are very appreciative of the partnership that we've had for eight years with Jeannie
Buss and Rob Pelinka and consider the Lakers as a critical part of his career Paul went on to say
We understand the difficulty in winning now while preparing for the future
We do want to evaluate what's best for LeBron at this stage in his life and career
He wants to make every season he has left count and the Lakers understand that are supportive and want what's best for him
and the Lakers understand that are supportive and want what's best for him.
So, we're gonna get into it.
LeBron made second team All-MBA last season
to extend his league record to 21 career All-MBA selections
and his 23rd season will also be a record
surpassing Vince Carter for the most in NBA history.
But let's dive deeper into Rich Paul's quote.
So Gil, you are fluent in Bronies.
Are you wanting me to ask you first? Dive deeper into Rich Paul's quote. So Gil, you are fluent in Bronies.
Are you want me to ask Kenyon first? I was gonna say that's a nice shirt.
The Lucas.
Yeah, yeah, the Lucas.
I know.
That's all I got to say.
Two timelines Kenyon, two timelines.
That's all I got to say, that's a nice shirt.
Supportive of LeBron and supportive of Lucas.
Ebony and Ivory come together.
Coming over to the right.
In Burbank, Harvard, coming over to the right.
I don't, I'm just.
Where it says LeBron, yours? That shirt speaks volumes with that statement in your shirt.
You can't beat L.A.
That's one plus one. That shit equals two.
Ebony and ivory come together. Two can exist together.
They are definitely existing.
So, looking at Rich Paul's quote, what is Rich Paul really saying here?
That one plus one equals two
Okay, that if I'm yeah, dude, dude a man. Hey somebody go get the black light
Turn the lights off
Because it is if somebody getting their TV turned on it is the writing is on the wall. That's somebody
Somebody that writing on the wall. I think it's so huh?
Yes, that's what that is Somebody Huh
Yes, that's what that is
Give it up. Oh, that's why I said you go for it
No, I ain't go but what I told you is yeah, so it's yeah
They said don't they say money with him up in there. No, no No, they wouldn't have if he would have restructured
and did another like three year deal, two year deal,
whatever it is.
He can do two year because of the over 38 rule.
So two year deal, then it would.
You're gonna chop the same money in half.
Yeah, chop the same money in half,
y'all would have been able to sign somebody else,
but him out the end of that,
handicap the team some more,
so that tell me that he ain't gonna be here, so.
Like Magic once said, I'm not gonna be here.
LeBron's second team All-NBA last year,
he is 40 years old, but second team All-NBA selection,
I think that price point very reasonable
for a second team All-NBA player.
That's still averaging 25, 26, 25, 7,
his 25-point streak was snapped, but he averaged like 24.5.
He was right on the precipice of another 25.5.
Problem with, was snap but he averaged like 24.5 he was he was right on the precipice of another 25 problem with there's a different conference there's a couple
different conversations that's being addressed at the same time and the ideal
of would you sacrifice money for a championship you say no but should he
have to know no no He's saying no.
Right?
I'm just, I'm just asking if it's the deal that you gave me.
Austin Reeves, what is he saying?
No. We're going to talk to Austin about Austin Reeves in just a moment.
Okay, so in real time
when people talk about
would you sacrifice
money for a ring and all those people
that say they would, in real time
the players is telling you they not right because they've never not sacrificed for actual rings because
the biggest conversation is you want a millionaire to sacrifice for a ring but the billionaire
for a ring but the billionaire won't.
Because at the end of the day, they're fighting over the same money.
He don't wanna pay the luxury tax,
so he wants you from your upbringing
of you gotta win a championship.
He wants you to sacrifice because he wants all his profit.
With no guarantee of actually winning that championship.
There's no guarantee.
It's just the idea of, hey, I don't wanna spend my money
and go into the luxury tax to pay a little tax.
I want all my profits.
So you guys sacrifice for y'all in this championship world
that you guys been sold the dream of, right?
So there's bigger conversations,
but right here, 50 something million.
Now, if you're a team and he says he wants to trade,
I'm gonna just be honest, I gotta be a complete fool
to trade away for him to have just one season of him.
Like if he was structured it and guaranteed me two years,
okay cool, but just one year, that means for me to trade my assets
to get him for this one year, I gotta win this year to make it make sense for me if
I'm trying to win a championship.
Talk about the team that will take him in.
The team that will take him in.
So it will be one, he's not going somewhere and they not one of the four best teams.
Yeah. Well, there were four options that have been mentioned, the Mavs, the Warriors, the Knicks,
potentially returned to Cleveland.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
he's not going somewhere where they so far off.
He's going somewhere where either the team was
Easton Conference or they had an injury,
and it's something of that nature, trust him.
He's not going somewhere just-
They turned back to Cleveland?
Yeah, that's what they have in place.
It's the safest for.
What about Milwaukee?
No, no.
He's not going to Milwaukee.
If he's going to go to a small market team,
it'd be his own.
He's going back to Cleveland.
He'll go back to his house.
If that's the case, he's going back.
What about ESPN's Bobby Marks, there's currently
no trade market for LeBron right now.
Oh, you crazy.
I mean, that's what I'm just saying.
What they're saying, teams aren't willing up
to give away a key brand.
Oh, they would have to give away a key brand.
Oh, they would have to give away a key.
That's what I said.
They would have to give away a key.
You're talking about now 56 million.
Now, if he wanted to win a ring here,
here or anywhere, you would have restructured your deal
for a lower price where now
Whoever's trading for you don't have to give up half the team. So if you just said alright, there's 56 million here you want what?
70
Two years 70 now you jump down to 30 now. I only can say I can get one player away from you
So now hey Garland Garland for LeBron. I can get one player away from you. So now, hey, Garland, Garland for LeBron.
I can do that.
I don't have to trade four you niggas over there to get one.
I want to give up.
Let me just know how to hypothec.
Now I got a.
You gotta give up Hunter.
But see, I wouldn't have to if he didn't structure his deal.
It's a one for one.
And what's the name he's making?
39 million.
Garland's making 30.
This is just hypothetical.
Well, let's hypothetically.
Garland's making 39 million garlands making 30. This is just hypothetical. Well, let's let's 39 million if he
Said the two-year 70 he's at 35 now. I can just trade one for one right in a future pick
Right to make you feel better now. I got Lonzo ball
Spider-man
hunter
Ron Spider-Man, Hunter, Bron,
Mowgli, Allen off the bench.
Like you see how my team just became.
Well, let me throw another hypothetical out to you.
It just became a championship team.
So Evan plays the five.
Go white boy, you can trade Hunter.
So Evan plays the five.
Evan can play the five, especially when Evan,
now I got Bron at the four,
I can pull the Bron at the three,
Evan, I can go big as fuck, like you know what I mean?
I got so much room, because I only got him for one,
because of his price tag.
So two questions.
First, we always talk about players taking a pay cut.
Bronn coming off a second team on the NBA season.
If he would have had a down year, maybe that's an option.
But you're talking about a player still top 10 in the NBA,
even at age 40.
And you talk about the Lakers having a valuation of ten billion dollars
No Celtics sulfur six point one Lakers sulfur ten billion. Why why would I ever?
Yeah, that's right. How to deal with y'all because you've been y'all just got ten
Yeah, ten billion dollar valuation because you want to win a championship
That's where my argument was I'm not turning the luxury tech. That's where we go. See, I'm starting. That's where my whole argument was.
I'm not turning down $50 million for a ring.
Yeah, yeah.
Because the $50 million I save goes to the owner.
It goes to you.
So we're fighting over the same money.
So it's like, you want to be a billionaire five six seven. I
Want to get there too? like and that's the argument that we don't be having because
From a little kid we were told rings matter
It's a team team team it does but the guy who's owning is like instead of me paying you 50 and you 50
And then y'all cut into my profit. I'll say, hey man, don't you wanna win?
Don't you like your mans?
The problem is you take 25, and then he take 25,
and then that 50 comes to me.
Well, give us somebody who's done that before,
you took less bread to help keep your team around.
Yes, that's why it's easier to come up with,
I turned down 16 million, like I'm offered 127,
that's what they offered me.
And I said, hey, the shine's coming up,
Twans, hey man, what you need?
How much extra do you need to stay?
Because I know Philly was offering the money, right?
And then he said, this is what I need.
All right, so when I started calculating,
I said, okay, 16 million for the team.
Then I just took 111, penny, penny, penny.
Then Brunson just do it.
The Warriors did it. The Warriors did it. They put up with't Brunson just do it? The Warriors did it.
Who did? Who did?
The Warriors. Which one took the pay cut?
Steph took the pay cut? No. They went over
the luxury tax. Yeah.
Now you have the second eight from basically hard caps.
A lot of restrictions.
That's what I'm saying. That owner wanted
to win and he's like I don't give, I don't care
about the profit. That's what I'm saying. So
the pay cut is between the owner and you as a player so when they
don't want to take it they put the pressure on you to say don't you want to
win because that's all the fans are gonna think about then the Lakers did it
before with who growing up with magic to yeah yeah cuz Kobe never took no pay
cut Shaq did when Shaq left, it was a
10 million dollar difference. But on Kobe, I think it's last year, it was a 19 million, 19 million less than what he could have got.
I think he's still the highest paid player in the league at that point. Somewhere in like the 15 range. Yeah.
Yeah, he was getting criticized. Like when you talk about like when Shaq left, left like people he asked for a trade because they wasn't offering him
the max
Hmm
No, I thought it was something he wanted 150
No, he said oh you didn't give me 150 I'm out I'm not taking a pay cut
I'm not taking a pay cut and saying I'm a second option. You know, that was the argument
I'm sorry. I'm not.
This is just the facts.
It's going to get both.
So, you know, that's that's usually the thing.
So with with with brawn is like, you know,
give me all my money and if y'all want to if y'all want to win
a championship go over the luxury tax break some bread.
So another hypothetical we talked about the four
teams that are reportedly interested in making a move the Warriors according to reports try to make
a move for Bron at the trade deadline. So when you look at this Warriors roster a comparable salary
would be Jimmy Butler who's scheduled to make 54 million dollars this year. If you were the Warriors
would you consider swapping playoff Jimmy for LeBron. Jimmy for LeBron? I mean, the salaries match.
Is that better than Luca and LeBron?
There's also a world where you can re-sign Kaminga
and then move to another.
All that happens is what do the rest of the pieces look like?
Yeah, because it let Steph still be him and
Bron still can do what he do, be the facilitator and
it just takes the ball out of Draymond's hand.
That's them two.
Yeah, I mean, they're not going to be in a position to win.
I mean, if the only teams that he can really go to
that has a chance, there is going to be some of East
Well, you said LeBron and Steph can't win by themselves
You still got to figure out the rest of the roster to make it match for both of them that they can just
No, bro
That thing got a chance
Got a chance but that thing got a chance. Let's see what they was doing to Minnesota before Steph went down with just Jimmy and him.
And it's looking ugly.
There's no injuries on the West?
Mm. There's none.
Not for key players.
I mean, Houston's getting better.
Steph don't have to work his hole.
Houston got better. Dallas is, I mean, in a getting better. Steph don't have to work his hole. Houston got better.
Dallas is, I mean, in a sense is whatever they're gonna be.
Then you got OKC.
Dallas can be very competitive.
OKC is, they're healthy.
So whatever they add is gonna be a plus.
Long as they're in Minnesota.
In Minnesota.
Got a year under they belt.
It's Steph and Lebron.
A lot of the court comes back.
It's better what Denver does.
Depending on what Denver do, that's still something. So the only place that's. Steph and Lebron is A lot of the court comes back. It depends on what Denver does. Depending on what Denver do, that's still something.
So the only place that's clippin'
Steph and Lebron is better than Houston right now.
Who?
Steph and Lebron is better than Houston right now.
Okay, that's Houston.
I don't think so.
But that's still an argument.
What if he goes to New York Knicks, right?
Depending on what they give away,
they can be in the championship.
He goes to Cleveland Cavaliers, depending on what they give away, they can be in the championship. He goes to Cleveland Cavaliers,
depending on what they give away,
they in the championship, right?
Like so.
So let's go back even to that Luka trade in February.
There were reports, who knew what,
and who knew what win and all that good stuff.
But do you feel like LeBron knew
that that move was happening
and you feel like he was supportive of that move?
Or was this the Lakers basically saying
look we appreciate you for your service but we're going to politely make you break up with us
whoever was important to that move i mean very important for the NBA
if it's on the table you have to make of course you make the move but whether you tell him yeah but what message are you saying to make that move. Of course you make the move, but. Whether you tell him or not. What message are you sending doing that?
Basically saying, look.
No, the message is we understand that you 40, bruh.
Like we are, like we used to having names
and putting like stars and be able to put people
in the seat, so.
I know it's been eight years.
He's available.
I think this will be the longest he's been with the singer.
But the problem isn't LeBron and Luca, the problem is the big
man's and all that stuff.
You guys have to mark William Stray and you resend it.
With LeBron, it was technically LeBron and AD fighting over the
same position in a sense.
But you don't think Lakers got a chance to win here though?
Yeah, he has a chance.
I mean, it's still at the end of the day, you got two players
that if they both sacrifice, you got a different team outlook, but LeBron ain't sacrificing nor is Austin Reese sacrificing
Well, I can understand Austin Reese. No, no facts. I can understand
I'm not taking a pay cut or him accepting what was offered. I can understand that
Whatever that ring is it ain't worth it
Player There's whatever that ring is ain't worth it right? Ain't worth it player
Back to the brown brown has a no trade clause
I'm not trying to get it. They get it off. No, I'm watching you're not getting it off. I just want to let you know No, I am no you're not but I'm letting you talk. Just no no no
What I'm saying is I get it off because I'm real time
I'm just I just want you to know you're not getting it off, but I'm letting you get it off.
You get it, it's a difference.
No, no, no. The difference is truth.
Right. Is there somebody out there?
Is there somebody out there in free agency right now that took a pick cut to win
the championship because their team was ready?
You can say Jalen Brunson, but the way that deal was structured.
That's the problem with y'all.
Y'all take one thing.
How many people have played in this NBA?
Can you ask the question? I'm asking a quick question. problem with y'all. Y'all take one thing. How many people have played in this NBA?
Can you ask a question?
There's how many people have played in this NBA?
5,000 give or take now.
Let's just say if 10% did it.
Is that worth bragging about?
Nobody's like that. You one, just let you know. You asked a question.
With a question mark, I provided an answer.
You provided an answer.
And then I have five people this summer right now
and that's like, ah, fuck off.
But with the Brunson thing,
it was for down the road, you can get it even bigger
as this cap keeps increasing.
So it wasn't as bad as the other one.
So he did it to get a bigger deal what potential yeah but on paper when it
happened all he's taking less bread to keep the whole crew together on paper
yeah that's all reality this well you ask a question I'm gonna answer it right
don't need the only people in real time that can just sacrifice for another
championship is the OKC
Which we will you got three, huh? Yeah, we're gonna sacrifice No, you won what your chances of going back-to-back
It's all in y'all hands
You know if y'all sacrifice to keep y'all's the salaries nice and good for y'all to keep on winning
It's all up to y'all if that's I'm the owner. That's what I'm saying
Hey, it's all up to y'all if y'all want to be greedy and get y'all y'all can have your money
But if you have your money, we're gonna have to break the team up
We talked about when I win his first championship to what? Miami. Yeah
He took two million dollars less
Chris boss took two million dollars less
Chris Boss took two million dollars less. Two million.
They sacrificed?
Two million dollars.
Okay.
Two.
A hundred and twenty million dollars on the table.
And they took a sacrifice to keep Haslam.
So the person who actually sacrificed was Haslam because he was offered forty something million.
So he was offered 40 something million.
So he was offered 40 something million. He had to take a pay cut to take 13 million.
And then why you think he's still in the organization?
Cause they're still paying him back.
So he took a pay cut.
We were in a different, what we call it?
Like a different.
Who?
It was like only the top two people get paid back then.
No, the reason that that team survived
and did what they did was cause Hasard took a pay cut for them.
It was four.
That was straight after the lockout.
Remember, it was a different type of setup.
No, it was four at a lockout.
The lockout was 11 or 10.
No, because, no, it was...
Because remember, they set it up for the high...
No, didn't that... The trade happened that summer, then it was a he remember they set it up for the high didn't that or that happened the trade happened that summer then it was a lockout right they
announced that they were leaving and teaming up and then the lockout
happened so when did they all sign together 2010 we came in so but you
talked about another star player who took less bread, James Harden.
Did not work out.
Darrell Moore is a liar.
Didn't end up getting his bread and now ended up with a clear run of dissent.
So it doesn't work out when usually when you try to explore that option, but the player
obviously gets all the blame.
Meanwhile, these teams evaluations have exploded.
But let's talk a little bit more about Brian.
Brian has a no trade clause.
So he basically has all the leverage of the Lakers if he decides to
request a trade this season or test free agency next summer.
Cordova reports Luca is likely to sign an extension with the team when he is
eligible on August 2nd. So after the Luca trade went down the Lakers said they
were operating on two timelines one to win now for LeBron but also build
towards the future with Luca. So if the Lakers don't make any big moves this
offseason you see where we're Bron request a trade and if he does request that trade does
Bronnie go with it's a nice big out there right now and they could use and be
alright. Do they got to pay Austin this year too? No he's so he's a third year
before your deal but they would have to make a move by trade deadline I believe
next season.
If that was the case, or he'd be a...
Or he can opt out, excuse me, this year.
He can opt out this summer.
He could?
Yeah, he can opt out the fourth year of his deal.
Oh, shit.
Wait, no, this summer.
Next summer, next summer, next summer.
Excuse me.
Next season.
So, Lucas' extension this year is what?
I was like 224,, 24, like that.
Four year.
So he ain't doing that, right?
Cause if he doesn't, then he's eligible for five year
potentially.
Three something, right?
Yeah, so y'all already sacrificed his money
with the trade anyway.
They got a 10 billion, they ain't worried about that.
No, they sold it, they bought.
Valuation of 10 billion.
I paid 10 billion.
The new owner has come to bread though.
Don't mean I want cheese on my burger. Cheese. All right, I got cheese at. Valuation of 10 billion. I paid 10 billion. That's what this is. That's what this is.
Don't mean I want cheese on my burger.
Cheese.
All right, I got cheese at the house, fam.
10 billion.
All right, give me this hamburger.
I don't want no cheese.
They gonna get that back.
39 cents for the cheese.
Nah, good, I got that shit at the crib.
They gonna get that back.
Brendan Heywood story in college.
Brendan Heywood.
Yeah, he used to go to Burger King,
get the burgers without cheese,
go home, put the cheese on it to save some bread. Had a buddy who played with him in North Carolina. I respect you Britain. Hey, what?
Hey, you want to show you know, that's a true story
Hey, what might be the funniest dude alive? So if Lucas signs this summer
You can get four years 229 million if he waits until next summer. He can get a five-year 295 million
Or he has a short-term extension option of three, 165 with a player option in the third year.
And in the third season.
That sounds more interesting.
The three for 165, three third year player option.
So basically next two and then.
Three for 165, third year player option.
I like that.
So he played this season, two more seasons and then have that option after.
If he signs this summer?
That one.
Yeah, he can do a three-year 165 or four-year 229 this summer.
And then if he waits till next summer, he can do a five-year 295.
Five-year 295 and then he can put an option in whenever he wants.
Either way.
Either way.
Well, I mean.
This one or that one. Either way. Either way. Well, I mean. This one or that one?
Assume he'll make all NBA.
Assume he.
Gotta play 65 games?
Yeah, he gotta play 65.
That's it.
If he plays 65 games, he's all NBA.
Yeah, there's not a question about it.
Like, no, yeah.
I'm saying the fat Luca average 33 that they said, so.
This Luca's supposed to be getting his shape, so what the fuck think you finna do more to love. I
Mean at the end of the day like you you're you're as they called it
we're talking we're talking about like these are literally the players decisions at this point because
They're gonna have they're gonna have like they're gonna have to sacrifice
they're gonna have the sacrifice to get the team
to where they want, right? So for the betterment of the future of this team,
well obviously LeBron didn't sacrifice,
so that's one out.
Now if Lucas says, yeah I'm gonna wait till next year,
that's two out,
because they're gonna sign him back next year, right?
Even though LeBron is off the cap,
they can give him wherever the fuck he wants.
And then you got Austin Reeves who's doing the same thing, right? So it's
not like these guys are taking team friendly deals to help the team out. Cause if that
was the case, then LeBron would have chopped his contract at least 15 million. Luke will
be signing an extension right now. Austin Reeves will be signing his extension right
now. And then boom, now you're talking about we're signing his extension right now and then boom.
Now you're talking about we're good for the next five, six years. Like we got a lot of
money and flexibility. But they're all, I mean we don't know. Two of them is holding
hostage right now.
When do people normally take their pay cut after the second contract?
No one. What do you mean?
When you trying to win. When you trying mean? When you're trying to win. When you're trying to win.
People that try to win.
Why do they say when you're trying to win,
why can't the team put a roster together
that's a competitive roster?
Why isn't it on the players?
What you're saying is not a real thing.
No one's actually, like, you getting mad at me
because I'm telling you.
I'm not.
You're not being realistic too, bro.
Like, let's keep it real.
People do do that.
You see it.
It happens.
I know you want wanna be right.
Name five people.
Just name five people in 20 years, man.
Like, it's not like this is a thing,
like what people do.
Like taking major pay cuts.
Like taking major pay cuts for somebody else.
You're not the two million dollar pay cut.
That's not a pay cut.
That's not a pay cut, man.
That's not taking less.
That's not a pay cut.
Like what Brunson did is they paid cut.
When you're talking them numbers.
That's not a pay cut. Two million. Two million, what am I getting for? Not a pay cut man. That's not taking that's not like what Brunson did is Talking them numbers. That's not a pay cut to me. What am I getting for?
Two million dollars about what I'm taking like instead of instead of
180 I'm going 178. What player am I getting to help me out? Come on, man. Let's just be honest like for real
That's a mid-level guy
I'm just I'm just saying what do you get for
$10 million? That ain't even a mid-level. Right, you're right. That ain't a mid-level guy.
Like if somebody said, if somebody said, okay I have $180 million, right? And you're asking
for $10 million, you just want $10 million and I need you. I will have to take a $10
million cut for you. That's what I'm saying. Like, is that what you want?
You're right.
No, that's not what I want.
I'm telling you.
I'm going to tell you.
You know what?
I'm cool, man, because it's not even like you want to have an intelligent conversation.
You just want to just dismiss the idea.
All right.
You're wrong.
I'm just trying to have a conversation.
It's not about to be right or wrong.
It's not right or wrong.
It's a conversation.
Just say if you take two million dollar pay cut what are you actually getting back
for two million dollars that can help your team win. That's that's this conversation.
So when we say LeBron. They get back. Who? Miami. Who did they get with it? Nobody.
Who did they? Mike, they had baddie a, they had Mike Miller.
They had Mike Miller signed his deal already.
Mike Miller signed first. So has a so what happened is everybody
that came. Yes. So everybody like I heard time. He was the
third year. That's already that's what no, it's in real time.
So Mike Miller's Mike Miller signed his deal. Okay, and in the three big the three big sign their money, right?
They're signing our money. They took they took two million dollars each less so has them can have something
Because has them is that oh shit everybody coming then y'all sign
He turned the money down from another team. So he was already guaranteed, he was guaranteed like what, 40 from Dallas?
What was that deal?
Something like that.
It was like 40 from something.
Right?
That was the money that he was offered in hand and he said, no, no, no, no, no, we got
some better going on.
So he took less money for them to sign, whatever was left over, that's what he got.
So they got tolem for him.
Then they been paying, they been paying him back
ever since that, he did it two times for them.
So they got Haslem and Ray Allen?
No, this is a whole, this is a whole
When did Ray Allen come?
Two years later.
So they got somebody for him, right?
Haslem.
He wasn't part of the, no.
Money change every year, People leave, dog.
Like somebody else might have left and they had a reality.
Like they didn't take a pick up for a reality to come.
Let's shift it back.
No, that's what you wanted to be.
But it's not what happened.
Let's shift it back to the current time.
Let's say Bron does request a trade.
You guys say he needs to go to the East.
How many teams in the East could you see LeBron
conceivably taking to the finals next year? This season coming up. If he just goes to the East? If he goes in the East could you see LeBron conceivably taking to the finals next year this season coming up?
If he just goes to these if he goes to the East I'm gonna be a down Easter conference obviously game Tatum Halley
I'll recover from Achilles injuries
I'm being niggas. Take your niggas to the...
Cleveland.
They not going.
Huh?
They not going.
Cleveland.
That's about it, man.
Yeah.
Cleveland.
Unless he team up with somebody else and they say,
shit, let's go back to Miami, but other than that...
Hmm.
Will he get his chocolate chip cookies?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like realistically, Cleveland, New York, Orlando.
Ooh.
It depends on, everything is always, if he goes there, who's leaving?
Who's going to be there when he gets there?
That's going to always be.
They go to Atlanta, they got to get Apollo.
Yeah, that's what I said, if you give Apollo Wagner, then it becomes a different.
They're not doing that.
That is not happening.
In the Lakers, this is a powerhouse.
So, last question on LeBron.
LeBron was at a dinner recently with his wife Savannah, along with Kevin Love and his wife and other guests,
and was heard on video saying,
Savannah wants him to effing retire in a year or so.
So you think this will be LeBron's final season of the league,
year 23.
We talked to Norris Cole, he said,
it could be either or if LeBron wants a retirement tour,
he just wants to duck out.
This is year 23 NBA record.
That's a good one.
Number 23?
Tired 23?
I think he got to, you don't play this long
without trying to win another championship and just retire.
So one more after this one?
Yeah, I think if he wins, he'll retire.
If he lose, uh. Yeah, I think that's the only scenario that is last
year. Gotta be if he was a champion. That's the only way
that this is his last year. Last year. Yeah, but that's
that's why this long just to my opinion. I just. He might want to, he might be set out to play 25 years, man.
So.
Yeah.
That's long.
He's looking at the history of it. I just think it makes more sense.
He plays this year. This is year 23. He's number 23.
It just, it falls in line with the whole story of him.
So the fact that he didn't cut this deal up to go after two more years,
and this is just a mopping in,
this might be the farewell.
Okay.
This could be.
In Cleveland.
Oh, look, we got some Bronnie smoke.
What's that?
We got some Bronnie smoke.
In Cleveland?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So a few pieces of business.
We asked the chat, should LeBron have taken a pay cut
55% of the chat said no LeBron should not taken a pay cut and we also asked the chapel LeBron finishes career with the Lakers
59% of the chat says yes, I think he will finish his career with the Lakers
Let's move on to another side of the world a lot of wishful and motherfucking Lakers in the chat
We in this particular day can you hope work? move on to another side of the purple and gold. A lot of wishful and motherfucking Lakers fans in the chat.
In this particular day, can your hope work?
He didn't sign his...
I'm sorry, they really listen to y'all, boy.
That would've been hard.
Now, now...
That would've been hard.
If LeBron would've been a free agent,
that would've been hard.
Now...
We also asked, will LeBron retire this season?
48% of the chat.
Now, this is what I'm saying,
and this is why when we talk about just rings themselves...
Ah, fuck.
This is the part like, why is your feelings in a conversation?
We've been talking about it for two weeks.
What is your feelings got to do with it?
You haven't got nowhere.
Because your feelings are ringing.
I didn't get anywhere.
Because your feelings.
You want to get it off. It's not enough
Okay, you listen now if you want to win a championship and you're a free agent
I'm sorry, man. This is above your pay grade if you want to there's 56 million dollars
You're worth you are a free agent meaning you can go anywhere on the planet for free
Right. You don't have to get traded to nowhere. So you right now can sign
Five million dollars and go play with Cleveland. You can sign whatever you do to go to here
You can literally take mid-level to go to OKC to win a ring
Literally take mid-level to go to OKC to win a ring. You don't even have to be traded for Jimmy Butler.
You can opt out and go sign as a free agent to Golden State.
Anywhere.
Anywhere you, that's the conversation I'm trying to have.
So it has nothing to do with what you got on your brain.
If you really want to get that, that fifth ring, it could be respectable
because you took a 55 million, whatever pay cut
to go sign it.
But there's no guarantees in life.
There's no guarantees, but no, there's no guarantee
that he's gonna win, absolutely not.
But for what he is, for what Gill is saying, right?
And it's been the thing that he's been saying
and be like just about, like, would everybody like
to win a fucking ring while they're
wearing their NBA career?
Absolutely, like it's, yeah, absolutely.
But it ain't the end all to be all,
but if it was for a lot of people,
like if this, if number five was that,
like for LeBron, if it meant all what he's saying,
if it was all of that, for him to get to five and
What everybody say separates him from Michael Jordan is six right? You'll be one closer to that right so
why not go chase that because in and
Pocket watching
Media pocket watching
Like damn you're a billionaire. We think you, listen, you can go somewhere
and help the team and win where you don't gotta sign
for the 50 right now.
Because you have been him, you got Nike,
you got this, you got that.
This is the pocket watching shit that people do, right?
So of course we looking at it like,
so you don't wanna win.
It doesn't mean. but he takes that five
and they lose.
He's getting a clown.
I dumbass.
How's he getting if he didn't so this is I'm gonna take the
five to go win and we don't win.
No, so this is the thing if he didn't have it already then
people be like, I'm but is it for some people that still
will be the case. Some people know most people be like, oh shit, but for some people, that still will be the case.
Some people know, most people be like,
oh shit, the shit worked out for him,
or the shit didn't work out for him, but.
So next question for the couch.
So like David West, was it David West?
He been ring checking like David West?
No, what I'm saying is David West, right,
even Karl Malone was making what, 20 million?
And he turned, he sacrificed 19 million
to come to the Lakers.
And what happened? Right? He comes to the Lakers, they lost. But what I'm saying is
if ring five was that important to him and he wanted to be at least tied with Kobe,
at least one closer to Jordan.
Then this summer is one of those things where he says, hold on y'all.
I'm gonna just fuck this whole shit up.
I'm gonna be calm alone.
So with my greatness and just go to another team for pennies
on a dollar.
Did he just sign exchange a couple years ago?
So right now we said it like we said it then like we said
it two years ago that he Yeah, that he could have right that he could have did it then and got pieces
Then in a better situation. No what I'm okay. Let me ask you a question right now. You don't want to wait
Oh, can I show you this one money? Can I ask you a question?
You're billionaire, right?
Kobe fans are saying you don't have five so he's in front of you.
Jordan fans is you don't care about women.
I'm just asking you a question man.
Okay.
I'm just asking you a question. It has nothing to do with your feelings.
I'm not in my feelings. Why do you keep saying I'm in my feelings? I don't care about it.
So let me ask a question. So Kobe has five and that's what the Kobe fans are using against Ron.
That's what they use against Kobe.
So Jordan, six.
Now you have 56 million,
you're a second team all NBA player.
Right, you're looking across the board,
you got OKC, right, who just won a championship.
You got Knicks over there, that's fully healthy.
You got, you got Yanis, you got teams where
if you say, hey, I'm worth 50, but I want to get this guaranteed ring or the closest thing to it
You can call up okc and say hey, and I do you have a bit
Do you have a mid-level section as well?
I can sign up for the 1.5 right for the one year or I can go back to Cleveland
Right mm-hmm sign for 1.5 and the team stays intact.
There has to be no trade.
I can just sign there.
Would you do it?
If I wanted to get your guaranteed five?
Yes.
Or the closest thing to it?
Get your guaranteed five or like a 90% chance of getting five.
If I was LeBron?
Just you.
No, you.
You already got a billion dollars.
I'm trying to get a ring. You're trying to get a ring. Yeah. Okay.
So question for the couch and then we'll move on. So you would, so you, so you,
what I'm saying is so you would do it.
You would turn down 50 million cause obviously you can to just go team up in
Cleveland. So you don't have to get rid of nobody. It's just you boom.
Shit. You can go down to Houston with Katie boom. There's nothing. There's nothing that's not really wants to win. Yes. So question for the couch
This is what I'm asking you guys as yourselves. Would you rather have a championship ring or 53 million dollars and
Just one this right now if you put one on the table
What's the goal put a championship ring on the table? I put 53 million dollars on the table. Which one would you rather have 53?
Okay, if I didn't play What a championship ring on the table I put 53 million dollars on the table. What's wrong with you rather 53? Okay
If I didn't play like I just a champion should be on the table 53 million dollars on the table
I was a hooper or just a normal person you get to pick one NBA player. Fuck it NBA player
Like you are in the NBA for you
And hold on let me let me
Cuz I already have an answer from him
What's your answer? What's my answer? Oh yeah. So say that again. So you
got a championship ring on the table. I put 53 million dollars
on the table. You can pick one winners don't answer shit like
that.
I see how you got out of that one. Okay.
Yeah. Okay. Cool. That's some ill shit. You know,
Yeah, okay cool. That's some Ilf shit, you know.
Champion should bring, look at your legacy as a champion.
How about this?
I got $53 million.
I never won this.
Can I rephrase it?
Go ahead, this is your show.
Don't do it.
Would you give the ring you got for $53 million?
What, I give my ring?
Give your ring back.
Put it in my heart right now? No, just take it. the ring you got for 53 million. Well, I give my ring? Give your ring back.
53 million.
You're putting it in my heart right now?
No, no.
Just straight catch it.
Hey, man.
Straight catch it.
Hey, man.
You can just take that shit and take that shit off my name
for 53 million.
For 53 million right now.
Isn't this a colony?
Yeah.
Where your life going right now?
We're life's going front.
That's how we're going.
No, motherfucker.
Coaching at the B3?
Listening to them niggas talk down to you and shit.
Okay.
You ain't gotta take that shit no more, nigga.
53 million.
You ain't gotta listen to me.
You don't have to be a fool.
You ain't gotta deal with me.
You ain't gotta deal with this thing.
You'd be a what?
A fool. No, to be a what huh you'd be a what?
Fool not to take the ring. Hey, I know where you won't be able to go back to
No to logical part no no the not logical.
See 50 million, that's a ring right here, sit right here.
But it's a shiny ring.
You got diamonds.
But that is the problem.
Your name on it?
No, because.
She gonna text you, hey don't even come this way bruh.
Then if you sign it, she gonna text you like who's this?
Who is this?
Watch out, you take them kids. That's not logical text you like, who is this? Who is this?
Watch out, you take them kids. I don't know the logical though.
No, that is the logical.
In reality, that's the logical one.
Money in hand in the ring.
Whenever we're talking about it,
it's always in the what if form
because we can just say whatever.
But in real time, LeBron is saying it
because he has the money in hand. Like the money is is on the table that's saying you don't like to win
huh it's not a winner it that does I'm saying is worse when the money's there
then you say it 50 already got a billion dollars what I'm trying to tell you. A billion and 53 million is better than a billion. Either he feel he could win with the Lakers
or he don't care about winning.
So in reality that 56 is?
52.6.
All right, but let's keep this.
So it's 52.6.
Yeah, 52.6.
So imagine that 52 is after taxes, everything,
and fuck it, they chopping that shit down,
lost all that shit.
Yeah, well you know we don't think that far.
I know, but I'm just kidding.
We just said 56.
Just give me 56. About 28, well you know we don't think that far. I know, but I'm just telling you. We just said 56. Just give me 56.
About 28, 30.
But we just.
That's crazy, bro.
Even the 30s.
Now you see what I'm talking about.
He tripping.
So the ring in 30 minutes.
But that's what I'm saying.
Like that's what I'm getting point.
It's tripping.
Yo, you can, man, you line that ring up in five million on the table.
Guaranteed, a lot of motherfuckers gonna be like, man, fuck that ring.
Well, then you got a billion, though.
But that's not, when they're playing, you're not gonna get a million.
You're gonna get a million.
You're gonna get a million.
You're gonna get a million.
You're gonna get a million.
You're gonna get a million.
You're gonna get a million. You're gonna get a million. You're gonna get a million. You're gonna get a ring up and find me on the table. Guaranteed lot of motherfuckers gonna be like,
man, fuck that ring.
Well, then you got a billion.
But when the money's there and you have to take it today,
and you have a chance to ring,
everybody's been saying, no, just give me the money.
Because the idea of a Hooper is,
give me the money today, I'll figure that ring shit out later. That's how we
He can't do that he can't think to the future
That's why now isn't that's why the ring isn't just in our mind a lot of you might as well the ring should be now
If you if that's part of your plan and legacy right that you're trying to get this
Every excuse is he planned 22 years. Of course, he should break every record
Let's keep this thing moving stick with the purple go
So also Reeves coming off the best season of his career established stuff as the best third option in the league
Reeves put up career highs with 20.6 assists, five rebounds, and 73 starts, also career high.
So as expected, Reeves declined.
The Lakers four-year, 89.2 million dollar extension offer
will bet on himself this season.
Reeves entered the third year of his four-year,
53.8 million dollar deal he signed back in 2023.
He'll make close to 14 million this season,
has a 15 million dollar option for the 26-27 season.
So next summer, the man known as Limit Daddy
is eligible for even a bigger extension
should he decide to opt out and become a free agent.
One person lobbying for Reeves is his agent
who reacted to a highlight reel of him
with the following tweet back in late May.
He said, quote, next year is going to be a show.
People really have no idea what's to come.
Keep putting them in trade rumors
for second string centers.
That is Aaron Riley from the AMR agency, Reeves' agency.
So Rob Palinka said in the Lakers exit interviews
about his big three of Luca LeBron and Reeves,
I think those guys have a lot of promise playing together.
We're gonna put in the work to allow that group of guys
to win a championship together.
But looking at the financials
and the potential for Reeves to get even bigger big day,
I think something in the like the 200 million range he'd be eligible for. Sure, he should get it. Expect the Lakers to move for Reeves to get even bigger big day, I think something in like the 200 million range he'd be eligible for
Expect the Lakers to move awesome reads before the trade deadline
Papa the limo that be a fool
No, okay
Play the year out as a Laker man, then he can opt out become a free agent
He's out tonight that shit no matter what that's what I'm saying. So if you're a Laker, you know that. He turned this down.
It's 80. Exactly. Next up to 100. Yeah, that's, yeah.
He's even close. Who's gonna pay for all that? That's 120 of his money. Yeah, that's shit. He deserves it.
He deserved it. What was the pick?
Was he second round pick?
I think undrafted.
He deserved it, bro.
Yeah, you know, it ain't even in question.
He got an average 20 and lost on this team.
Shit, listen, bro.
Yeah.
Papa DiLimo.
If they don't, they don't look like JJ gonna dick them though.
You know, sometimes the coaches like-
Undrafted.
Yeah.
Signed as undrafted.
Mess around playing time and shit.
Just try to cut your money for next year.
You know, you know, you're not gonna get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to
get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance
to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a
chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a
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chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get
a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a
chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get a chance to get I don't like J.J. gonna dick him though. You know, sometimes the coaches like... Undrafted. Yeah.
Signed as undrafted.
Mr. Unplanned time and shit.
Try to cut your money for next year, but...
Do we see a situation similar to what happened to the Major?
No, they ain't a situation, but they gotta win though.
The Major's gotta win.
But we need a discount.
Live with Daddy, he got billboards.
Or J.J. ass gonna be...
White on white crime, dog.
That's gonna be some white on white crime.
No, no.
Right now, motherfucker.
If it was me, I would've been scared.
Damn, man.
So he ain't gonna take a pay cut to win a ring.
That's crazy.
He not gonna take a pay cut to win the ring, yeah?
Yeah.
So...
How many times has this conversation changed?
It evolves, right?
I mean, that's...
It evolved from money and rings. That's what... Well, if you're trying to win a ring, that's what It evolved, right? I mean, that's- It evolved from money and rings.
That's what, wait, if you're trying to win a ring,
that's what they said, right?
We're trying to build the ring around-
So now it's about pay cuts to take a...
So first it started from T-Mac,
then it started to take in pay cuts.
T-Mac with the airfowl, it was with Shaq,
then it was with Kobe, and then-
That conversation has nothing.
Where did this pay cut money to get a championship
shit come from?
Yeah, you wasn't here.
Oh, okay, I wasn't here.
Well, you do have championship experience.
I'm just saying you wasn't here for this conversation.
Oh, okay, I was like...
Yeah, this is season, this is season one.
So you expect Lakers to ride it out with Reeves
and say, no, no, no, this is season one, you know,
when we wanted to keep Caruso,
sign him, take a friendly deal for the...
Two-time NBA champion Alex Caruso.
No, no, no, no, no. Hold on.
When we were trying to sign him back,
so we can bring back, so we can get our team back.
And he was like, no, I got more money over there.
Yeah, I do.
He didn't want to sign his nine million dollars
in the winter ring.
Went under...
Nope, I want my money.
But he ended up winning. He took his money and got and got one see that's what the players do I want my
money first then we can figure out the win so he made the right decision
shout out we've been fucked up ever since Alex Cruz are the original limit
deadon yeah all right well let's keep this thing moving
pick us on a second deal yeah. Like, you like that?
Yeah, you do.
Yeah, you be the second deal.
You gotta get your security first.
Let's keep this thing moving.
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Let's shift over, stay in the Western Conference.
So number one overall pick, Cooper Flagg,
expected to make his NBA debut at Summer League in Las Vegas.
League is looking to maximize viewership with a marquee matchup
when games tip off Thursday, July 10th.
Flagg and his Mavs squad will take on the Lakers,
where Brownie expected to be on the floor as he gears up for his sophomore season
with the purple and gold.
Flagg also expected to participate in the Mavs' second Summer League game
against the Spurs
and number two overall pick Dylan Harper.
But let's get back to the main event as he's known,
participating in what could be the main event
of NBA summer league.
Do you guys like the league putting Cooper Flag's Mavs
against Bronnie's Lakers on opening night
of Vegas summer league?
Yeah, it's hard.
They give us a smoke.
They may sell out the arena for it.
Thomas and Mack, I mean,
Bronnie already sells out that arena, but you know,
but he does.
He does.
Oh, this is going to be good.
I better get tickets now.
NBA Summer League, a lot of shows will be out there.
I was expecting to be on the couch with y'all this year.
It's because you got punked by Isaiah last year,
you don't want to go back.
You don't want go back. Huh?
You don't wanna go to Vegas no more
cause Isaiah was Stuart.
Be Stuart.
Whooped your ass out there, that's why.
That was in Tacoma actually Swaggy, but.
That was in Vegas?
That was in Tacoma.
Oh my bad.
At the Z-Kid.
He was doing that in Vegas, LA right here.
Oh my bad.
My bad, my bad, my bad.
Keep my weapons in Vegas.
I was on this home turf,
I was on this home turf,
didn't even know I had problems.
But you guys rolling with the NBA putting the Mavs against the Lakers.
Play twice.
No, some relationship.
Play twice.
Hooper flag in the Mavs.
Man, that's going to be good.
Brownies, Lakers, yeah.
That's going to be good. Very well attended.
There's gonna be so many people in there.
What?
Who else play that day, that same day?
Well, I mean, you know, technically.
Technically, we can't, you know,
I mean, you wanna buy your tickets just in case,
but you still gotta look sideways
because you don't know if he gonna be here.
Who is he? We know Brownie gonna be here. Who is he?
We know Bronnie will be here.
Oh, no, not if it's a trade.
Before that.
If Bron, like this free agency, if Bron gets traded, right?
He taking the son with him.
My dad.
Me and him.
You didn't want him to play, like it's me and him. You didn't want him to pick. It's me and him.
We went in together.
So we out of here so that means if he gets treated.
That's the only reason he stayed.
Hopefully this happens after July 10th so we can at least get that game.
Yeah, we gotta wait. By 11 days, just be careful.
Alright, let's pray. July 10th, Vegas Summer League.
So during Flagg's introductory press conference with the Mavs,
Jason Kidd talked about how he plans on utilizing his number
one pick, giving a glimpse of what's
to come this summer and this upcoming season.
I want to put him at the point guard.
I want to make him uncomfortable and see how he reacts,
being able to run the show, being able to play the two, play the three.
He's comfortable playing that, but we want to push.
And I think he's going to respond in a positive way.
It's our right to fail.
It's our right to turn the ball over.
We've talked about that.
Just understanding the guys that I've been around that are being young from Yanis giving him the ball and he failed.
But he wanted to come back and have the ball.
So I'm excited about giving him the ball against the Lakers and see what happens.
Let's get it started right off the bat.
Let's get it started right off the bat.
So you look at Cooper flag, obviously led Duke in assists in his freshman season.
Mavs being down, Kyrie with a foreseeable future, expected to come back some point later.
January, February perhaps. Think Flagg can handle playing some point forward in his rookie season.
I think it would be good for him, especially with J.K.
Looking Yanis, Yanis push the ball up full court.
It'd be good for that to his game, to bring his game,
add more light to his game, ball handling.
He already got everything else, you know, with that,
with the energy he have, if he had a handle, man, be,
he's just gonna get more scared.
Can you like J.Kid putting the Cooper flag
at the one at points this season?
Oh yeah, no, I can say, get started in the summer,
like put him in a situation, see how he handle it.
Yeah, see what his temperature gauge is for it.
And like J.K. is, stay there.
And I'm saying there's nothing wrong with failing.
There's nothing like trying something
and then going back and try to correct it.
Watch the film, see the things you did right.
Having an honest conversation with one of the
best point guards to ever play this game.
So who better to teach you the position
or how to handle the position than him, right?
Having Kyrie there, having Kyrie's vision
and knowledge on the sideline at the beginning
is gonna help.
Yeah, so I think it'd be all right, man.
This NBA is not like somebody's gonna be
pressuring him 94 feet.
So it's cool.
How you feel about Cooper Flag playing some point
this season with the Mavs?
Obviously Kyrie down with the touring ACL
till January, February, according to reports.
That's a big lineup you can roll out.
You can put AD at the point.
Bringing the ball up is not the point guard.
Point guard position is actually running offense.
So I don't think he's going to be running off.
He's just going to bring the ball down like Giannis. right? But if they can pull it off, which I'm
pretty sure he's going to be at what we're going to call a
point forward like Lamar Oldham like Pippen, you know, like,
you know those type of players in the past, right? It keeps
their lineup big. He's about what six seven with his shoes
off six nine so he can guard those.
He can guard little guards?
No, he can guard someone like a Brunton,
because Brunton doesn't have that foot speed, right?
So he can give him some room, use his length.
Someone like Shay too crafty, someone like Fox too fast.
Yeah, no, he won't have to guard them. Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean?
But if he did have to, if you're playing him at the point, that means you have Gafford
and Lively in, so that means your team is real big, so it's basically just funnel everybody
to the rim style.
And Washington, too.
You have Washington and Clay, so if that's what he's thinking about I mean shit
That's like that's it. That's your 2k line up. You can go flag clay PJ
ad ad and then
Fucking forgetting
I'm forgetting a
To be honest, you're Marshawn David you can just sit sit around and fuck around and he will know and fuck around and go
Cooper flag
Pj Washington, but PJ you guard the point
No lively ad and gaffer and just see what the fuck happens out there. Yes
So when I was over walker reason working in the game shit special situations, right and
When I was over walking, we was in the game, she had special situations, right?
And we were working on the defensive side,
I was one time, and J.K. put John Henson
and Yannis on the ball.
Like the ball was out of the side, out of bounds,
and he put two people on it, like put two seven footers,
put them on the ball.
Like shit like that, like that's where his brain works.
So just thinking outside the box, like,
you got two seven footers on the in-bounds play.
Like they take the ball on the side,
you put Yannis and John Henson in the game, put him on the ball that was in practice. I was like
Yeah, good luck
Good luck in that bitch in
Cuz then nobody go expect you to do it. I put yeah, I was saying everyone the bubble bubble the bubble team
I mean now we had a
We had Caruso, I mean now we had,
Javel,
LeBron at the point, Kuzma at the two, then we have 80, Javel, and Dwight.
I was like, oh man.
Two K's.
Woo.
Big ass team.
That was a big ass team.
That was a big ass lineup.
Sit in the zone on they whole asses.
That's crazy. Good luck. Sit in the zone on their whole asses. That's crazy.
Good luck.
Sitting his own on their whole ass.
That's what they want.
It was shocking to me.
It was shocking they didn't bring that team.
So, Flagg, 18 years old, turns 19 in December.
Do you think he can handle the pressure of having to play point forward
at this early stage in his career?
Yes. Skill set.
He handled the ball well, so it's just skill set.
Just work on it throughout, like yeah, no it's...
And good to see J.K. saying,
I'm gonna allow him to fail,
put him in an uncomfortable position,
kind of deal with that now in the short term,
hopefully for some long term benefits
once he gets comfortable.
He gonna be all right, man.
Handling that role.
Get a kid confidence man.
He already had like a little handle though
in the beginning, yeah.
Man, we need to just work on his mid-range,
post three point shot.
Got everything else, I feel like.
Reminds me of, I mean, it's not as, as fluent as the, when they drafted, when Lakers
drafted Magic with the idea of, okay, you're shooting guard, small forward, and then you
play point, but it's your vision that was.
We had Norm Nixon.
We had Norm Nixon.
You know, so from the two of just them, the starting guards,
they was averaging about what, 17?
17, 18, the six between the two.
It was like seven, nine, eight, nine, 10.
Then it was like, you know what?
Norm, you good.
But it's better with him.
We're faster with him.
Let's just get some off guards that can guard the point.
And then we can just run,
or they can just play some fucking defense around here and then give magic the ball
so we'll see what's going on but Kyrie you know cutting his deal up to extend
it for pennies on a dollar gave them a lot of flexibility too I mean low-key
them a lot of flexibility too. I mean low-key, Mavericks is in a good position. That was the general consensus. Because you save so much money on the
Luka trade, then Kyrie saves you money trying to hand back, get the number one
pick, and you got a lot of money moving forward. You got a good
like two- year window.
Yeah.
With this crew to be able to do something.
We should have did that here in the late.
Yeah, it would have been nice.
No, but my Wizards, we got money to give.
The Washington Hunk.
We saved money just in no accident
because niggas is trash.
Pfft.
Ha ha ha.
Accidentally saved me.
Wizards.
Ha ha ha.
Is that why you hate no me today?
You read up a reminder.
Yeah. This ain't even your color though.
This is not even a it was Teal.
But don't look at the name.
This is new.
This is after I left.
This is about 95 degrees in the valley.
This is after I left brother.
Did you wear this color?
Yeah.
Oh, this is when he was fucking young.
Yeah, my bad.
I am 95 degrees in the valley.
You're wearing a jacket in the area. It was this color. See, I ain't even thinking of my bad right damn 95 degrees in the valley you're wearing a
jacket in the area it was this color see I ain't even thinking of my bad does
this hurt more the little D low this one yeah I figured cuz that this one cost
your money it did cause me my bad I didn't even know me he should have told
me the little D low that she was a one of the reasons to
Little dealer also your friend for the maps and then when I left it was your team But I was your friend so they ain't like that. Oh, they don't like it. Yeah, my bad
Guilty, so look I'll rep when you not here cuz I want to bring up those memories that cost you money
Okay. Well, let's shift this thing over
So LeBron isn't the only big name opting to stay in LA
for the time being.
11 time All-Star 2025,
13 All-MBA selection James Harden,
opting out of the final year of his deal with the Clippers,
resigning a two-year contract worth nearly $82 million.
So according to Shonob,
the second year of Harden's deal has a player option,
is partially guaranteed to give him and the team
some flexibility heading into the 2026 off season.
Harden held it down for the Clippers last season with Kawhi only appearing in 37 regular season games
making his first all-NBA team since 2020 while averaging 23 points,
nine assists, six rebounds in 79 games, the most he's played since the 2016-17 season.
He was the only player this past season with 1,500 points, 500 assists, 100 steals and 50 blocks
and played the fifth most
total minutes in the league.
So hard to stay in with the Clippers,
a good move for him and the team.
Yeah, what else they gonna get?
That boy is nice, shit.
What else they gonna get?
What you gonna get?
Unless you get mellow.
Clippers finished fifth in the West this season.
Remember we talked before the season started
with Kawhi's injury concerns.
Missing the extended amount of time.
Can we get on to the next topic, man?
Why, you don't like this?
You don't like the Clippers?
No, because the Lakers didn't do it.
Dudes taking restructuring for betterment of T.
I think I got an increase in salary with that move.
Yeah, we will talk all things NBA here in Gills.
We're gonna present about a hundred on the move.
I can't wait till he get traded now, man.
Let's be honest, man.
I ain't never heard you talk like this about him.
Just take your player, man.
Y'all get the fuck on out of here, man.
I ain't never heard you talk about him like this.
See how you switch up?
What's wrong with you?
Because I'm a Laker fan first.
He must've pay you this month. No Because I'm a Laker fan first. He must have paid you this month.
No, I'm a Laker fan first.
First becomes Laker.
So if you take a pay cut and restructure your deal,
the Lakers, we ain't good money.
This is a Clippers topic.
We good money.
We like real set up.
We set up for the future
That's all I'm saying is all I'm saying is we good moving forward is so the fact that
Who's free agency right now? You can look at me all you want
Them niggas over there holding us hostage
It was cool when Kobe did it because he is Mr. Laker.
So he can do whatever the fuck he wants.
Five ring.
We don't want an outside nigga coming over here
just holding us hostage.
Gil LeBron brought the Lakers the hardest championship
in NBA history.
That was cool and we appreciate you for that.
But now we try. Show your love.
Now we got a white man, okay?
Now we got a white man as the man in this thing.
So-
Hard to be the most important Slovenian
in the history of the country.
So we just sell out brotherhood.
Sell out brothers on the next show.
Sometimes you gotta sell out,
sometimes you gotta turn against your own.
Sell out brothers on the next show.
To get ahead in life.
We knew this day was coming.
Sell out brotherhood.
It's like Call of Duty, man.
You over there, I can save you,
but the smoke coming.
Well, I can just keep running that away.
That's all.
But look, but hearing everybody take pay cuts
to restructure deals is-
Well, look, I think Harden had about 36 million
on his player options actually getting more bread
as a result of this.
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, restructure you're getting more but it's less on the salary cap so yeah like if he stays
in his deal it's whatever that cap is if I restructure and I give you 15 more million
who is 15 more million added to what it is divided by two now right so it saves the team
more money today well I think it's like 46 more million, right? Because the upside of the 30 ends up getting two for 82.
Yeah.
A little bit more.
Hard and a little bit younger.
So the fact that, you know, what our team is right now, what the structure of the three
that we have is two decided to take a nice little pick.
Okay, with Austin, I don't, you know, I know, I get it. Trust me, I get it. Big fella, big name.
And I know, I know as a player it's not in your job. Austin gotta get it. To help them out
because this is their friend. Whoever this dude is, I get the logistics. He is
worth what he's worth. You trying to get this, so taking a 50 something million dollar
pay cut at the end of your career to help him in the future of his team,
where it is his team.
He's gonna make his money back today, tomorrow, next year, 20 years from now.
He's gonna be, I get the logistics of it, but you know.
But back to James Harden.
Tell him.
And the Los Angeles Clippers.
I'm not a Clipper fan, but whatever.
This is an NBA show.
The fact that they're doing it over there.
Swaggy, how do you feel?
He's not a Clipper fan either.
As a former Clipper.
You gonna answer for me?
Go ahead and answer.
Fuck the Clippers.
No, no, that's why it's like fuck Hector.
That's why I'm like fuck Hector.
Fuck them Clippers.
Don't ask me no shit about them Clippers.
Go ask the Clipper.
Let's move on to this side of the couch.
Level headed reasonable man.
Distinguished gentleman by all accounts.
Hard to say if the Clippers a good move for him and the team.
Before they went on their tangent or whatever.
Who else they gonna go get?
For one, that's gonna do with James, gonna do his production.
Yeah, no, it's a good deal for him.
For one, for the team, if they able to do something with it, if it saves them some money, if they able to do something with it. We'll see. But no, it seems that it's team beneficial right now. You're not
going to replace James Harden production with anybody on the open market right now. So yeah.
Good move for both sides. So is this a big name free agency this year? That's what I'm
saying. It's a really good basketball player that this year? Mm. That's what I'm saying.
It's a really good basketball player
that can help you win.
That's what this free agency is.
It just says, it just says this is,
I mean, it just says last year then.
It says what?
This means last year.
His last year with the Clippers, you think?
No, like. What?
I'm still stuck on my team, not doing anything.
Oh, you're talking about Lebron it then oh no he's not talking about
Lebron still. This has got to be his last. This is a Clippers segment do you have any good
Clippers takes? I'm your conscience. I'm just I'm just listening to what
everybody is doing to stay so James Harden knowing that it's easier for him now to negotiate
his deal versus playing this year and then trying to get into next year trying to negotiate so
it's easier to cut his deal up now get more money it's hot right now same thing
with Kyrie it's easier for him to negotiate then going through a whole
year coming back at the end of the season then say hey what am I worth so
but do you think if Kyrie didn't suffer the torn ACL,
he would have approached it the same way?
It would have been a different situation.
No, no, no, he would have opted out for a new deal.
Yeah, but it would have been a little bit more bread
on the table of reports.
He would have looked at the 50 to 60 million rain.
It works out for both parties.
So, you know, so that means they're adding multiple years.
So the fact that somebody didn't add multiple years
meaning this is it.
As a Clipper, what are they missing?
I know you're talking about LeBron,
but as a Clipper, what are they missing though?
Like what piece are they away?
Is it just Kawhi being healthy?
They need a healthy Kawhi, and they need another.
Norm Powell can be there.
If he has another consistent year like he did,
and James production is what that is.
He need to find his way with them two on the court.
He kind of,
He need another big, like that's mobile for it.
Power, power.
Y'all need a straight,
Power, yeah.
A shooting big, like y'all need a shooting big.
Zuback is what he is.
Who was they for?
Which is Derrick Jones Jr.
Derrick Jones Jr.
Then you had it.
They ran Chris, they ran that small lineup too.
Yeah, seeing their small lineup was small.
People been sending us out there at times.
But they went a Kawhi Harden, Dunne, Powell, in the two box.
Yeah, they had to go small when they went in.
They're small, small.
Like when they had to compete, they had to go small.
And that wasn't beneficial, but no, they need a,
they need a boldly type. They need someone that can still beneficial, but no, they need a, they need a Mobley type.
They need someone that can still defend, keep it,
get those rebounds and still play on the outside to keep.
Ain't no many Mobleys out there.
You can put him in.
I know, I know.
First off, Porzingis out there together.
Porzingis, now that would have been the ideal person.
Porzingis, that would have been the ideal,
cause he defends, he's active and then he can shoot
and stretch the floor.
You somebody like that I know.
I know he don't play.
I know.
Yeah.
But that's the idea. That's what they need to kind of.
Yeah. Santi Aldama I believe unrestricted free agent too potential option if they could.
Yeah.
Or excuse me, restricted free agent.
He should have.
They could wheel and deal.
Bo Bo?
No, that's the kid from Memphis, right?
Yeah, Santi.
What did they add to him?
No. No? Give Bo Bo going to the Lakers. Because they trying to Yes, I see. What did they add in there? No.
Gil Bo Bo going to the Lakers.
Because they trying to like, I don't know.
I'm just saying if they added in.
Yeah, but I just, if they trying to do something now.
I mean, if they trying to do something serious, I know.
Yeah, the kid from Memphis, like he's.
Yeah.
So Clippers were tied with the Lakers and Nuggets for the third best record in the West
last season, but fell to fifth through the tiebreakers.
We talked about this a little bit.
What's the Clippers ceiling with the healthy Kauai next season?
Only played 37 regular season games last year,
Harden held it down and embraced more of a leadership role.
Norm Powell was playing at an all-star level.
They, the ceiling, I don't know, whatever it is, it's gonna be.
But one thing that they, we all think that they gonna have
monitor Kauai once again.
To what extent?
Don't know.
But in order to compete in the playoffs, that's
so whatever the ceiling is, I have it.
What do you think if they get Kawhi in the 55, 60 game
range?
Game seven with Denver?
That's good for them.
Yeah, that would be really good.
If they get five or 60 games, that's a win.
They lost the person who they was up by what?
They should have, they should have beat them.
He should definitely be the no back to back guy.
Yeah, see that's, Clippers is in a weird spot
because the owner is a basketball junkie
holding on to the idea of if everyone stays healthy, we have a chance, and not realizing
that if one goes, that chance is gone.
And if you're not preparing to like kind of get somebody in there that you can build on. You can go from this three to five all the way back down
because when Harden's older, Kawhi's older
and you don't have, and then your young pieces are not stars.
So you need some, you really need.
You're not happy with what you've seen with Kawhi?
This playoff, it was bomb. Why? Yeah, I just play off this ball
No, what I'm saying is how many years do you have before you have to flip this whole team upside down?
Yeah, next year, okay
This guy got nothing to do with this conversation, but he just came to mind when we thinking about a goddess
Zach Levine like what is it?
He's like somebody like that. Yeah, like you know... He's just dying. Like somebody like that.
He's just dying in sex.
No, what I'm saying is that's a guy
that you can kind of still build
three to four years over.
For years around, somebody like that.
That's a name, that's a score, that's
can still...
Bonus.
Like what the fuck is going on out here?
They just dying in the sack bro.
Oh it's a graveyard. It's a graveyard bro.
It's a graveyard bro.
But obviously he just came to mind
as far as somebody who could help with this.
I know Demar is sick over there.
They do have seven children.
He's gonna get you 25.
One of them goes down.
He can get you 25.
He can still consistently do his. One of them goes down. He can get you. Yeah
They need someone they need someone that is
Part of the big three and young enough to be two or one if shit goes sour
And right now they're they're literally in a position to have to win now, but not actually built to win now. Yeah.
I like that squad though.
I like the squad to keep falling in third to fifth.
They knocking on the door.
Losing in the second round like that.
Yeah.
It took them into the center.
Like when we talk about the rest of the field,
OKC won a championship and they're so young that.
Top nine coming. Right, you know what I mean? That they're literally, they're gonna young that Top nine coming right you know what I mean that they're they're literally
they're gonna be at the door not knocking they're gonna be opening the
door like who's out there trying to fight for this for the next six years
they're already in the house they're sitting in the living room
first one you see we enter the house god damn it they sit in the first room
so everybody who's knocking is oldest as fuck like, here we come young fella, we gonna give it to you.
But Denver took them to a seven.
I know.
And they took Denver to a seven.
But Denver still, like Yoke is just a 32.
Well we thought they weren't neither.
Because they got Nicola, Denver team is flawed as well.
Denver gotta get better, Denver team is flawed as well.
But they still took the champions to a seven.
Yeah, the young boys opened the door
and took out the old people.
Now they're sitting in there and everybody's kind of old
knocking on the door.
There's no young buck team.
Buzz Eyes, Indy, Orlando.
But we don't even know if they're going to knock yet.
Cleveland.
No, they're going to knock.
Cleveland.
And then you got New York.
Orlando gonna knock this year.
New York is still, like New York team,
their stars is younger than the Clippers.
Yeah, you got them, you got Orlando out there.
The only thing that saved us is Reeves and Luca.
Even Cleveland's still young.
Yeah, yeah.
That's like, so before we move on, Swaggy, producers wanted me to ask you a question.
How would you summarize your 22 games with the Clippers in five words or less?
I did.
We bust your ass.
That was like the Abba-tire-gill.
You did.
I did.
Thank fashion.
Same go to the gulag.
Five words or less.
I was in the gulag and like, you know what?
I was in the gulag.
I was in the gulag.
I was in the gulag.
I was in the gulag. I was in the gulag. I was in the gulag. I was in the gulag. I was. Thank you. Thank you to the Gulag.
Five words less. I was in the Gulag and like you know what?
We had fun though man. We had fun. Come on man. Just take me out of my misery.
Come on Gulag man. We played before that. We played before the playoffs.
But how would you summarize those 22 games, five words or less?
I'm feeling generous. I'll give you six words if you need.
Oh man.
Fuck Chris Paul, that's how I'm feeling.
They passed me the ball.
Three words, you don't even need to say
she did it in three words.
I got them last minute shots he gave me.
You didn't like the grenades?
Hell no.
Damn man.
You think I like that shit?
I could do something with it, but who like getting the ball over two seconds all the time?
Corner boys.
You can hear him and shoot that.
You need more than two seconds to be swaggy.
You played 22 games?
I think, no I was happy man.
It was cool, it was just good to get out of the Wizards.
Bro you was like nine years removed from the Wizards then.
You went to Philadelphia.
No that was my first team.
I got traded from the Wizards to the Clippers.
Yeah.
You didn't go to Philly first?
No, Philly was after.
Okay.
Yeah, I was just happy to get out, man.
I feel you.
It happens.
You know, they didn't embrace you, man.
That's cool.
They were trying to.
We were trying to.
Oh, it was a lot.
That's why it was a lot going on with y'all.
All right, well that team could have did something.
That team could have did something.
Which one?
Big Shot going down hurt.
Oh, he was fun, right?
Oh, that was that head.
Big Shot going down hurt.
Oh, that was 2011.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Big Shot going down hurt.
Yep.
Cause we both, yep.
You was there before me?
Probably not after.
It was the-
I came from, I don't know what the trade- You got traded through, yeah. No, there before me? Probably not after. It was the uh.
I came from, I don't know where the trade.
I think you got traded too, yeah.
No, I came from, see the thing is was.
You came from New York?
No, I shoulda, I came from China.
I shoulda took my ass to Miami, is what I shoulda did.
It was a free agency, you went.
It was a lockout.
It was a lockout, you saw it.
I was a free agent.
Lookin' at the landscape, I don't know when these boys are going to play basketball.
And I had three and a half on the table. I was like, ugh.
And then I came back. It was like...
Ni hao.
It was Miami, Cleveland. I mean, the Clippers.
And Chauncey there, just teammates in Denver, like it was kids in LA.
I'm like, yeah!
Cause Chauncey was mad as shit.
Cause we both got amnestied.
And then the best thing about amnestied is
you got 11 days to pray that nobody picks you up.
Cause if they pick you up, you stuck in your contra.
What's going on during those 11 days?
How much prayer is that?
You know what I mean? Like, come on. So you wanted another guy right? No, that's what so
Yeah, so what happens is when you get amnesty the team that amnesty you they hold your money now
Clippers, so he's got amnesty when the Clippers pick them up. They pick up this contract. Oh
And you know if you're playing like come on dog
They pick up this contract. Oh, and you know if you're playing like come on dog
If you if you go through the 11 days, they still owe you the money And you know the Clippers won't you they get to sign you for another contract
Oh, yeah, so I was getting I was getting paid from Orlando and Memphis
Damn yeah, I went down Orlando and China were they sending you checks? How were you getting the brand new?
Bro, I was getting so much money man.
I don't even know man.
They could have sent that bitch in a store.
I didn't care.
I was getting two deals. So I got Amnesty
and got more money.
Washington and Orlando was playing?
Yeah, so no. So I was in Orlando.
Right? So when they Amnesty, they Amnesty
66 million. Once they Amnesty, they amnesty 66 million.
Once they amnesty, that deal is done.
You can't do nothing with me no more.
Like I can't lose it.
It's done.
I can got, I could have got, went on a killer spree out here.
Nothing.
That deal is sealed under, no I'm just saying I could have did whatever.
That deal is sealed and under.
And then when, so when you're negotiating with me, you're negotiating me for a brand new contract.
You could have went on a peace spree as well.
Yeah, why can't we just be like, what the fuck?
I'm just saying I'm just going
as the highest level of dumbness.
Okay, okay, okay.
You know, just stupidity.
I could have did that, right?
I could have just been stupid.
That deal is locked, loaded in the bank.
No matter what you did.
No matter what I did.
Okay, okay, yeah.
And then, so when I signed with Memphis,
that's why when people was like,
yeah, you got black like no, I got
66 guaranteed you got to talk me off the couch
Like so when Lakers called it was like I
Balling and then now you got to try to convince me the situation here in LA is worth me leaving my couch
So that's why I said I'm negotiating like yeah, man, I don't think you need me right now.
Player, you know what I mean?
Who else you want?
You got too comfortable with that?
Sessions, look, Ramone Sessions right now.
Oh yeah.
That's what I'm sounding like.
And then I'm there in March.
Yeah, it was, cause I was supposed to go there too.
March, I get the call from my agent talking about,
yeah Memphis is looking for a backup
and they need you to come this weekend.
Hey man, look, my son's birthday, man,
is about to happen.
We're about to throw a party, man.
So look, hey man, look, I'll come after the birthday party,
man, I ain't gonna come be folk.
Then I went there, no clothes, went there, worked out,
heading to the airport like, man, look,
good luck this year, man, y'all look good.
Y'all look good, man.
And then I'm to the airport and then I get the call they want to sign you right now it was this
bro i mean that's cool like i appreciate you yeah they got this right now like right now but do you
have to sign it is like 750 like right now mid season it's like yeah 750 just free cash money
750 just free cash money.
Oh, I'd be done to turn down 750 just to go back to
sit Orlando and fish.
It's only a couple more games. I I'm man.
I man and then turn around and sign that deal.
You learn something new every single day of Gills Rain and
presented by underdog.
You know, yeah't you know?
Yeah, you know I was happy. I was happy you was playing them behind the scenes shit, but people just don't know happy
You was playing 11 days. You wanted to chill. I'm shit. I was you chilling
Like like I'm getting deals I remember
Was dr. Vizier coach not any
What was Doc Revis all coach? No, any
Because I had got the call like y'all can even Google this like the 2013 I got the call from the Clippers who was trying to
Or doc was their coach. Yeah doc. So they they signed JJ for 23. Yeah, cuz what happened is I was a free agent and
We was playing it with the Clippers club You know how Clippers open up, they started first,
and then Lakers like open up at the last two weeks
right before training camp.
So when I was going again, so I played with the Clippers,
I'm like, oh, we interested in you, cool, okay.
And then I went to the, got invited to Lakers,
Eddie Jordan is here, and then it was bad back Steve,
and then Steve Blake, and I'm sitting here
playing against both of them like,
I can be the starter here.
Yeah, I can be the starter here.
So when it was over and I'm getting a call
for free agency for training invite to the Clippers,
I'm like, yeah, I'm good.
Yeah, I'm cool, man.
I'd rather go to China.
Damn.
You didn't do the Lakers?
Me, huh? You didn't wanna do the Lakers? Me, huh?
You didn't want to do the Lakers?
I wanted to do the Lakers, but they didn't have no roster
and Clippers was offering me to go to training camp.
But I'm like, y'all already just signed JJ.
So Chris Paul, JJ and Jamal Tinsley.
I mean, Jamal Crawford.
I got a plan.
I don't want to sit on the bench for a million.
Yeah, I could have a championship,
but I don't want to Miami.
Do you regret not doing that in hindsight?
It's always 2020, bro, but...
They couldn't guarantee you the minutes that you were looking for.
You and Miami.
And then everything that came with it, you know what I mean, I did all the math, bro.
Me looking at me, knowing the landscape, everything you, I'm hearing while I'm here.
This thing lined up for Kenya.
Like all the extra, I'm at, I'm in year, what, shit,
lab 12 at that point, 12.
I'm not, I get y'all, I understand it, man.
But doing all the things.
I'm not, yeah, that was my, I didn't care.
I'm coming off of all this still, still can hoop.
But I'm like, ah.
Ugh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, cause I was playing 12.
That was a fucking thing.
I just asked for one thing and that was it.
Just, I need to play 25 a night.
Yeah, we can't guarantee it.
I was like.
And Vinny.
Then fuck around playing for that motherfucker.
I shoulda took my ass, see? See, yeah around playing for that motherfucker. I shoulda took my ass.
See?
See, yeah, in that regard, yeah.
I shoulda took my ass to Miami
and fucking had to go play for him.
All right.
Vinny down there.
That motherfucker missed.
I wanna find that footage.
Hey, I wanna find that footage.
I know they keeping it like Mark Madsen.
Y'all keeping that footage, y'all.
I was busting they ass so bad.
Steve Blakeney.
Steve Blakeney and Steve Madsen. That, you know how that footage, y'all. I was busting they ass so bad. Steve Blake. Steve Blake and Steve Nash.
That, you know how you're like, you have three teams?
Yeah.
Now they didn't wanna get off the court.
That they over to fight each other.
Damn.
You know Steve Blake.
You were playing with Steve Blake?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was on my team with the Lakers.
Yeah, let's just say that Steve Nash wasn't ready for it.
For just, just. For Hibachi time as we said.
No, no, no, no.
No, just what?
Him.
Oh, Steve Blake, listen, hey.
Oh, too white to fight.
We seen the video.
We seen the video.
Oh no, Steve, listen.
Back in Maryland during the pickup game.
He's fake a fight.
Oh, he ain't a fake.
Yeah, he a fight.
Yo, that's too tight for me to be,
you don't supposed to do that.
He ain't taking hits.
You don't supposed to be fighting that. That's that Kobe shit. You know't supposed to do that. I'd take a hit. You don't supposed to be fighting that all.
That's that Kobe shit.
You know what I mean?
Hey, hey, hey, hey, listen, y'all gonna get,
y'all both gonna, y'all can fight when I knock one of y'all off.
Like y'all can fight over here, y'all.
They got to fight to stay on just to get beat by my team.
Yeah, what am I?
And them boys is out there, going.
He got in with somebody and them?
Bite that nigger.
Big motherfucker.
I ain't no fucker.
Bite that what, damn?
What?
That sounded like a hard on.
Where you coming from today?
Are you the boss?
Big dog.
No, for real.
No, I'm watching.
We have it on tape.
Take this shit off, man.
No, I'm saying I'm watching them fight.
I'm watching them fight over here.
No, he said, he said.
The way he said.
Bite him, do something.
Get him off of your shit.
Get him off of your shit.
And two white people with him.
Bite him, bite him, nigga.
God damn, bite him. Bite him, god damn!
Bite him back, do something! You're losing right now!
It's embarrassing!
There's no chill girl, this shit gives me the big mothafuck.
Big mothafuck grabs Steve in Denver, he didn't know.
Steve hooked the shit out of him.
Nah, nah, nah!
Yo, we gotta get Steve Blake on the count.
We gotta get Steve Blake on the count.
That's my dog, Steve. He's making up hard Rs.
Who does Rs anymore?
You know you gotta be ill.
You said it, man.
I said nigga, be a nigga.
Bite nigga.
No, you said bite a nigga.
No, I said bite a nigga.
Okay, well then, I think we've referred to-
You said the R.
I didn't say the R.
Now you go-
You said the R.
You said the R.
Rewind it back.
Are you serious?
I don't worry, it'll be on Adam's Hill.
You really don't believe you said the R?
I've never said the R ever, I'm black. Who the fuck says the R being black? This is I never said the R. I'm black
He said the art I said nothing he said oh they're hard or like I didn't say the heart
Sometimes some of you niggas deserve it. Yeah, you see how it sounds when you use art that don't he's saying it cuz you said it
Sometimes this is worthy. Okay, it fits in a lot of situations people just they're offended by it
well let's move something I love black people
let's keep it moving so heading into this free agency Julius Randall was
expected to be one of the top targets but for now Randall is staying in Minnesota.
Sunday Shimes reporter Randall will be opting out of the final year of his deal, assigning
a three-year, $100 million extension with the Wolves.
The deal includes a player option for the 27-28 season.
Randall averaged 19.7 rebounds, five assists in 69 games this season, and a career-high
21.7 points, along with six rebounds and five assists in 15 games in the 2025 playoffs.
Randall also shot a career high 50% from the field
in the postseason as the Wolves reached their second
straight Western Conference Finals.
So the Randall extension comes on the heels of Nasreed
agreeing to sign a new five year, $125 million contract
to stay in Minnesota after opting out of the final year
of his deal.
So looking at Nasreed and Julius Randall moves,
you think Julius Randall and Nasreed
re-signing with the Wolves, good move for that squad.
Yeah. Second year in a row making it to the Western Conference Finals. You're looking at a young
Anthony Edwards that's rising star in his league. Yeah, so yeah, I think it's a good move.
Depends on what else they do with the roster. But definitely a good move in that regard.
Gee!
Told you.
You don't be know what you be saying sometimes.
Yeah, it's a good move.
My bad, I did say R.
Say sorry now.
Sorry, I'm sorry, man.
I ain't sorry, y'all.
I ain't...
Fuck.
Yeah, you did say it.
I had to look.
It was a damn ass about to argue with me.
You like...
Blame me.
Blame me.
It just Sounds weird enough
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Back to the conversation Timberwolves
Julius Randall 300 million dollar deal Nas Reed five year 125
Three year 100 mil for Julius Randall fire 125 for Nas read good moves for the wolves to keep both Nas read and do what?
five year 125
Yeah, that's all
Since I'm on that I'm being friendly sign him a slave deal
out and being friendly sign him a slave deal.
I might as well just go down the rabbit hole and they got him for what?
That was crazy.
Five year.
Five year what 25 haven't heard those in a long time.
Nasrid Opting to stay in, not test a free agency market.
Could have commanded, I think somewhere in that range a little bit higher if he did.
Who'd lie? Do they know what the meaning of lie means?
Lie means you know you did it and you're not. I didn't know I did it. That's not a lie.
Plausible deniability.
So I heard it, but oh, I did that.
Yeah, but that's a slave deal.
Just a vibe.
It's just...
Damn.
Five years?
125?
25 years?
25 a year.
For some long-term stability, stay in Minnesota.
A great state.
You start feeling bad for my damn dog.
All this money they giving out.
God damn.
Woo! I'm bad for my damn dog. Honest money they giving out. God damn. Listen to this.
Woo.
Like Ant-Man shit.
You wanna be with me?
Like I don't know what to say.
Like.
But in his role, so that's the same thing as Louie,
all right?
Same shit Lou was talking about.
Yeah.
The exact same thing Lou was talking about.
He's stuck in there, he's in that role.
So that's what the, that's. No, not in the role's stuck in there he's in that role so that's what the
Jane Daniels get only thing I'm just but I'm just
McDaniels McDaniels, yeah, like he says stop pocket watch with him as a starter
You can get
So Jane and McDaniels Stop, I can watch it. Put him as a starter.
Jaden McDaniels,
in that range about 25 to 26. He got five years of?
Let me see.
You're getting money.
That's a hell of a deal.
I mean, listen, that was a good ass deal for you.
You signed a five-year 136.
Oh, 136?
Okay, okay.
But he signed for more.
He was a starter.
Jaden McDaniels did.
That's what I said.
They get these boys' pennies on.
Was he a starter when he signed or was he a sixth man?
And then they put him in a starting position.
Nas was a starter when he signed it.
I mean, Nas was a man when he signed it.
Daniel was in a five-year 136. As a starter, Nas Reid was the sixth man of the year though. Six men started when he signed that. No, so Daniel was in a five year, 136.
As a starter.
As a starter.
As a starter, Nasri was the sixth man still.
You know what I'm saying?
So.
Yeah.
But that's, well, let's go ahead.
And then they signed Julius.
That's cool.
I mean, I mean, it helps them so.
Yeah.
Yeah, if they trying to, listen, they made the two
straight Western Conference finals.
They looking at the future.
They're looking at the next few years.
They're looking at they right there.
They just as young as OKC.
So they looking at it in that regard,
like we got a chance,
but they still got a liability over there
and the big fella.
So good luck.
Dr. Blue, Mr. Gobert.
But I'm just saying like,
I just haven't heard no deals like.
I dig it, but. What is is coming asking for as a six man?
Reports are he's asking for 30 million. You know what someone that really is restricted free. I'm just saying but he's asked okay, so
Huh, just daughter I know
And when you look at Julius Randall obviously the big cat trade last season
Do you think Randall will be in the Wolves' long-term plans
or who will essentially be the odd man out amongst that crew?
He'll be the odd man.
He signed for three years, right?
He's the odd man out.
Hm?
Julius signed for three years.
Three for a hundred, but he's got a player option.
Average 19 in the regular season, 21 in the playoffs.
Career high.
So, shit.
Dependable, gonna be there.
Bro, if you're trying to win
really keeping there I mean you look replace they got so many they got so
much flexibility though you know yeah you do because you can get rid of
Julius get some some pieces for him and then you got Nasri that can start that
could start with his contract I mean you talking five years so they I won, you're talking five years, so I want you.
That's because they made them too, though.
I want you five years.
They're not really only 25 years old.
That's what I'm saying.
So they get some flexibility.
I mean, they have wiggle room.
So I mean, they're in a good position to stay, you know, competing.
Nasri 25, Julien's Randall 30, so it's a little...
It keeps them competing, so it's a little. That's what it keeps them
it keeps them competing so it's a good deal for the Mavs all around. Yeah yeah they're gonna be
all right. For the Wolves. Because you can play them two at the same time. Yeah you got them for a
good idea. Well I think how many years left on Go Bear? Rudy, yeah I was about to say you got Rudy.
I was about to say you guys, Rudy is...
Go Bear has two more years in a player option in 2027.
But the damn... At what?
So he's making 35 million next season, 37 million the year after that,
and then a player option for 38 million for the 27-28 season.
Yeah, I mean.
So their biggest bags is young fellow who's on a two.
When is his deal up who a man?
Yeah, he signed through the 2829 season.
No player option.
Oh, no player option.
Do you do that?
No, but we would we miss all over there. What's going on? What they doing over there?
No, I did. Hard hours and get over here. Boy is what lashes.
See, so it wasn't me.
Some came out there.
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no, no, Wait, no. Get the superstar though. That's why you're playing. I never heard a superstar go into just hard five.
No player, no team.
Right?
Hard five?
Rudy got a goddamn player option.
Yeah, you ain't heard that in a long time.
Go big on him, baby.
But looking at Nas read that five for 125, do you think that'll make Nas read consistent trade rate for the foreseeable future?
Similar how miles Turner was always mentioned in trades with his pace to do never actually I traded but
No, I'll go say mention one thing. You're actually pulling the triggers
Cuz what is it happening is when you do deals like that, let's say
Just like Because what ends up happening is when you do deals like that, let's say just like the contract is so good for the team that if you put him in a starting lineup and he becomes
an all-star all-NBA player, right, you're not going to get what he is back.
Right?
Like, let's just say you decided to trade Brunson.
You're not gonna get, you're not gonna get what he is back.
The contract money prevents that.
Right, so if he's playing at this top five, top three point guard level,
his money is so low, you're not gonna get the,
you're gonna get dollar for dollar value, not player for player value.
So, you know, it helps you in real time, but it hurts you when you're gonna get dollar for dollar value, not player for player value.
So, you know, it helps you in real time,
but it hurts you when you're trying to trade this player.
So if Nasri's become, you know,
what they think he's gonna be,
well we all feel like, man, 25 the way he's is,
he starts, averages 18, 12, 18, nine, whatever that is.
Got to have a six-man every year.
Yeah, and shit by the time, like if he becomes six man,
if he becomes a starter,
you're not gonna get the value back.
So he'd just be thrown out there, just protesting.
Just to see what's cracking.
They'll never let go of him.
Shooting 40% from a three or something like that, yeah.
Doing this thing.
Shout out Nasri, getting the bag.
Shout out Drewless Randall.
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Fake news. Let's let's shift over to Utah. A's Bailey one of the biggest stories of
the draft after trying to force his way to Brooklyn by not working out for any
teams. Jazz swooped in and grabbed him with the fifth pick
last Wednesday.
And Bailey appeared to be unhappy with his landing
spot on draft day.
Bailey was not on the plane with fellow first rounder
Walt Clayton Jr., but did finally pull up
to Utah this weekend.
We have some video to prove it.
So let's take a look.
Bailey arrived in Salt Lake City on Saturday,
hopped off the PJ wearing a jazz shirt,
was immediately greeted by head coach Will Hardy,
looked to be in very good spirits,
shared help with some jazz staff,
including Carlos Boozer who was there.
Wait, can you go back just, I'm sorry.
Carlos Boozer.
Just go back to the frame of them all standing there.
No, go back. When they're all all standing there. No, go back.
No, forward, forward, forward, forward, forward, forward, forward, right.
Right there.
Back, back, back, back.
Damn, he tall.
How tall is Boozer?
Boozer, 6'8", 6'9"?
6'9", 6'9".
Nah, he booze like 6'7".
He's listed at 6'9", so with his shoes on.
And...
And then he said, Bailey's what?
6'7 and a half without shoes is what he's listed.
Without shoes, so he's...
This is what, see Dave, oh man.
That's what I hate about reports.
It's the same.
Like, so if he was reported at 610,
if he was reported at 610 with his shoes on, depending on what kind of shoes he wears, he's
610. Normal size, one and a half, twos, he's 6'9". Okay, that's what I was wondering, like,
when it went by real fast, I was like, wait. Okay. But okay, so he probably wore what? What was he wearing?
Like probably some some KDs or some products on Lebrons? They had him, this is a 16?
Mm-hmm. He look like shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He wears some Air Force 1's, he's 16. Okay.
All right, that makes sense. Okay. You can go ahead and press play for me if you don't mind.
Almost immediately after landing, you see his luggage right there.
Bailey got to work at the Jazz practice facility.
Let's take a look.
Oh, there it is.
Nice fade away.
Rocking the Jazz gear, smiling.
I think a much different situation
than what we saw on draft night, obviously.
You guys said he tried to force his way
to Brooklyn, did not end up working out.
The Wizards would have got him at six,
potentially traded him to the Nets,
was the talk of that deal.
Danny Ange called wind of it.
No, that was with Charlotte.
With Charlotte.
Oh, was that with the move?
No, I thought the Wizards would have traded him.
Nah, he threatened to draft.
It was that, not the connect.
What is the...
To foil those plots.
Either way.
Go on. What was the question?
Where do you want to end up, Gil?
Oh, you wanted him on the Wizards?
Long time Wizards fan.
Former player, Gilbert Ruinis.
So, Gil, let me get there. As a Wizards fan, former player Gilbert Ruinis. So let me get there.
As a Wizards fan you're being very combative.
I don't really like this version of you.
All right, yeah.
Very different you.
Talk to city girl, very different.
So during his introductory press conference Sunday
with the other jazz rookies,
Bailey handled the media like a seasoned pro.
Was there any point that you considered not coming to Utah?
No, not at all.
I mean, just blessed to be in this position I am.
Not a lot of people can sit in these chairs
and have great teammates as I got on,
they came on with me, so I'm just blessed to be here.
Do you think you can make an immediate impact
despite your age and just one year of college experience?
Absolutely.
What makes you so mature to be able to do that?
In the gym, late nights, all the hard work I put in, I believe in it.
Did you come right to the gym off the plane?
Yeah, for sure I did.
I was excited to see what the practice facility was like.
It's a great scenery.
As soon as I got off the plane, I didn't think the mountains was real.
I mean, it was so brutal.
It was just seeing that scenery,
just being in that position,
just getting off the plane, just meeting the coaches,
which is all great.
The most brutal-
Is he from-
Is he from the most gross?
No.
Chattanooga, Tennessee.
Oh, so yeah.
Okay. Okay.
Most brutal-
Okay, I'm just saying, it makes sense.
That's how they, they can't say to be the most brutal for listening
You're gonna be doing us gorilla
So I'll explain it to my daughter the other day right so I'm in my wife be joking around we miss like
Saying certain words on like this
So I was playing it to it like there was people that I grew up around that can't pronounce the ST
Mm-hmm like we all be messing around down the street.
Mm-hmm. Scrawberry, Scrape. Yeah.
Scrawberry. Uh-huh.
Like, she was like, what are y'all, like, why do you say?
I'm like, there's certain people that can't pronounce.
She was looking at me like, like, really?
Mm-hmm. Like, but yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Brutiful. Brutal. It's brutal.
Brutal. Scrawberry.
That's, That's impressive.
Shout out to Ace Bailey.
But there's a lot of discourse around Ace Bailey,
the whole situation not working out for any team.
I think being the only US-based player to not
do any individual work or private work out.
Do people make too much of a big deal out
of Ace Bailey's initial reaction to getting drafted by the Jazz?
It's always one.
They try to make out like a bad person, a bad guy.
Not the first player to try to leverage his power to get to the destination he wanted to go to.
Did not work out.
I think he's handling it well though, not feeding into it, saying the right things, trying to say the right things, you know.
Yeah, just let his game speak for itself.
What they're expecting to say. Like, nah like now fuck that I didn't want to be here
You know like like really like let's like you really expect the junk this kid to go up here and be like
That's you know what man this birth fucking place impossible guy. Hey, man, who want to be around all this shit?
Like no, he's not gonna go up there and do that like horrible PR. Yes, horrible horrible reporter
There's time and places where you like,
and this is why, this is why I respect PR teams
that are understanding of situations and you know,
the wars, I mean, the wizards, we had great,
wars got great too, but here, if I'm the PR team and we're coming in here
There's no way that woman gets that question off
The fuck are you trying to do here?
What is your what is your point of asking him this even what do you think he's gonna say if he says what he really feels
Inside does that look great for this organization, but the reporter has to ask that question. No you don't. For what? This is supposed to be in like do you really
want this player? This is the jazz this is not like this is this isn't ESPN? Yeah this is the jazz
organization this is who I invited. You work for like you work here what if he actually says no I
don't want to be here. What do you think the rest of the world is,
you think that helps us?
These young players don't want to be here.
But I'm sure he was prepped, obviously, for that question.
She needs to be prepped.
But what if not?
You are part of this organization.
I hear you.
They're probably gonna ask you,
we saw the draft.
The way these YNs are these days, right?
Yeah.
They don't, certain time, certain shit don't register.
He could have asked that shit exactly how he was really
feeling in that moment.
Then to Gil's point, now what?
Right, now we all look super here.
Yeah, now it's like, I didn't want to fucking be here, man.
Like, I really did not want to be here.
Right, just imagine if that's his answer.
Guys, it's the journalist's job to ask a question.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, it's not.
No, it ain't.
No, no.
You just got a player that was supposed to be through.
So let me ask you this, Steve.
There are all the things that she could have fucking asked him.
Got it?
Before you get to that.
Like, all the reports and all that shit that's going on,
okay cool, he's here.
Of all the things that you could have asked him.
He says some shit about the mountains.
You wanna ask him, so you chose,
like that's why you want some bull.
Like she was expecting him to give that answer.
Your perspective as a player that like,
you don't want people trying to get you in trouble,
which is what-
You're not getting the husband-
Hold on, but just let me finish.
Just like I'm listening to you all the time.
So the only thing is,
the main story that's been talked about
with Ace Bailey leading into the draft is this,
and this is what people want to know about,
and it's a journalist question to ask.
But I show up-
I don't think it's fair for you to guys to say,
you can't come in here and ask that question.
You can't contribute.
You all made it.
First of all, listen.
Made it.
The outside world talking is very different from Utah press.
Your job is to make it look great here.
Hey, you know, you look happy coming off the plane. Are you happy to be here?
What's the name?
Boom, we got this, this.
Have you been looking for a place?
Did you just get here?
Like, you supposed to make it seem like he wants to be here.
You don't want to entice the,
now we got to look at the body language
and be like, yeah, he really don't want to be there.
Like, it doesn't make you look good.
Whatever he says is what he says. Yeah. Right, if he says, I don't want to be like it doesn't make you look good. Whatever he says is what he says
Yeah, right if he says I don't want to be here
I want to be traded you look like a goofball asking him that in real time
The team is gonna be like why did you ask him that?
Why are you making us look stupid because if he did say that now as the president?
I'm looking at her like what the fuck is what the fuck are you doing?
You just like he, everybody else looks great
in their interview.
You made ours a negative thing.
But we understand, like, everything that's been
leading up to it, right?
He drops, negative.
Not this, negative.
Can't answer this, negative.
So, yeah, that's like, so that's my point
with this particular question, right?
The question is not, like, it's,
it was a leading question.
Like, so, and if he really answered that shit,
like, he could have answered this in true feelings, right?
That could have been his real answer, like,
no, I never consider not coming, all that.
But on the flip side of that,
it could have been like,
nah, I really didn't want to be here.
They drafted me, I'm obligated to show up to the to the Marshawn Linshield I'm
just here so I don't get fined so it could have easily been anything of that
nature so that's the thing that people use to ask the Marshawn question like you
know what it is so you just picking at it at this point. You picking at it. As the home team. Like the road people expected.
Like okay. Protected. Protected from himself at this point. My, my, with my um, with my, with the
gun locker room situation, right? If you go back, did Wilbarn ask these questions?
Will Barn asked these questions. Kornheiser, no, none of the Washington people
who has to deal with us every day
is the ones trying to sit up there and trick the person up.
You lose the locker room, right?
Ain't nobody gonna talk to you.
Nobody gonna talk to you.
Like, he's gonna be looking at you at some point like,
yeah, I'm good.
You have the Westbrook to the home media stance, right?
As the home media, you're supposed to be looking
and making the organization and those players feel good
because nobody else does.
It's our job as outside media to sit there and poke.
That's why I said we're gonna look at the video
and try to analyze his body language,
like oh, he's sitting there louching So he don't really like that's our job as outside to infiltrate that locker room
Their job is to protect the locker room in a sense
On draft day, especially first day. It's the first day
First day of Utah season like imagine
This was it now he was been like man. I ain't never seen this fucking mean the white people before in my life. Just go
Anything could come out there so just like
What cuz the thing the leg was a prep to Y in he was a prepared?
I'm saying me I'm looking at like I'm looking at it from the outside like like I'm looking at it like
Like they might I don't have no interest in this
and I'm sitting here like, man that's a horrible ass
question to ask him first on,
this is supposed to be a happy day, right?
This is supposed to be like a positive.
Well, you're supposed to be happy day,
drafted on Wednesday, did not arrive in Utah
until Saturday, so I'm just saying that's not a typical well
We don't know this is not a lot of speculation. It's not a brain with his family
Who don't it's something else could have been going on what now?
What if somebody now you see how stupid isn't what took your ass so long?
No, you want to be here. I would think about how the questions is did you not want to be here?
You took so long. Why didn't you come back with your teammate? Like you see how that does not actually build nothing good for them.
Like poor Zingas when he got booed and everybody killed him on press
coverage, what was his interview?
What was the first question I asked him?
Did they ask him something negative towards that?
That's a great question.
Poor Zingas in New York.
Cause I can tell you what it led to no matter what.
You got booed draft date.
When he got booed draft date,
whatever happened from the draft date to the press conference,
mentally already had him like,
I'm out of here when my time is up.
And he left.
He got tricked.
Yeah, but he wanted out.
But I'm just, you know what I mean?
Just, that's the first date, man.
You're supposed to be. But Ace Bailey is now on record saying he wants to be in Utah
I think that could have been the mountains were brutal for yes very a lot
of mountains the air a little musty take some time to adjust to sit on the back
like man whoever that was man can you get rid of her? I'm not... Yo, you're warm.
They gonna revoke your credentials.
You lucky...
What?
Lucky it's the off season.
Yeah.
Summertime.
You're lucky it ain't a star.
So, looking at Bailey, obviously it reports that his team told the Jazz not to draft him.
They opted to draft him anyway, but it seems like he's in a pretty good situation with
the Utah squad.
How will Bailey fit with this turn, J. Bailey fit with this even more with the fucking question?
Even more with the question my team told you not to draft me. You did it anyway
So so so you did it anyway, okay
So if you're asking me a question back, back to the back to that. Yes. That tells me, yes.
This is the NBA draft. Teams are free to draft whatever player they want.
But you're asking me a question that has to do with what I wanted.
So you're putting me on the spot.
So now I have to say, oh, no, I really wanted to be here.
Even though, you know, I'm lying because you know, I didn't want to be here.
Yeah. So are you showing me? Are you trying to show me up that's the
stands here Sweden if the team came out his team said hey yo leave us alone we
don't want to be drafted you do it anyway I'm not happy come on come on
let's just be honest so you you put them on a spot for him to like what say yeah, yeah, yeah
You think I changed my mind in 40 is motherfucking you see how long it took me to get it
And only way you ask it cuz y'all keep reporting that I ain't showed up. Yeah I'm really gonna show up to some fuck. I had to leave Brooklyn and shit. I was still trying to figure out where to go. I was about to get passed.
I thought this was 2K.
I thought I could put myself back on the market.
I did.
Shit, y'all didn't see what I tried.
I took a pay cut to go where I wanted to go.
I know what the number three money looked like,
and I was still willing to turn that down,
turn fourth down, turn y'all fucking asses down,
and go somewhere else.
I was sacrificing money and status
to be where I wanted to be.
In real life.
Question.
You gonna sign me?
I might as well just went to fucking Philly.
He went to college, right?
Yeah.
Went to Rutgers.
He was at the way to New Jersey.
They was getting NIL money and shit right there.
So he's been knowing that this was gonna be
a thing, I'm all off the tangent here.
So they knew this was gonna be a thing,
him getting drafted at some point, within the near future
from when he went to Rutgers.
From someone who went to college with a speech impediment.
Right?
Fucked study, had a problem talking to the media.
Had a problem answering questions.
What did they do? They fucking helped me out. Put me in the class, asked me some questions,
get me comfortable talking to the media, certain words and shit like that. So his team didn't
think that this would be a thing for him to go on and fuck and say, beautiful. I understand
where he's from, that's how he talks, where he grew up, but.
Oh, they can't. I can refer that to beautiful. I understand where he from, that's how he talks about where he grew up. But. Oh, they're beautiful.
They can't.
I can refer that to beautiful.
He knows how to say beautiful. Trust me.
Because hey, Goldberg knows how to say beautiful.
The words are and all that they ask. She sat down, interview.
She knows how to say those things.
He know, but this is the right.
So now he's going to, now this is the thing now. Gu's gonna do not this is a thing now
guarantee is gonna be a fucking meme like this is this day and age right as
I prepare the young man for the moment that's all I'm asking yeah that's all
prepare to get asked certain questions that's all I'm sorry I mean I mean
something for you thinking about saying the word beautiful I have to be a
draft to a teen you want to start being drafted to a team, you don't want to be part of it.
That nigga started looking at you like, think about it,
you don't want to be there, right?
Talking about the mountains.
These mountains are beautiful.
What else can you say?
When I got off, them trees were nice.
Nice and green.
You bring it all the way down.
You're 100% correct. Absolutely.
He had to pull beautiful out of the guy.
When you got off the plane, you're like,
man, these mountains is beautiful here.
But yes, but let's prepare the band to have a mic
In his face constantly. That's all that's all I'm asking for his team. It is you got a nice
Team around you. They doing what job they're doing with you. Let's just add some some of this into the phrase, right?
And when y'all sign the shoe deal, let's go get him a bat
Now I want to listen to everybody else's response through history to see if anybody... Beautiful? No no to describe when he got off when
he first got there the first thing they looked at was landscaping instead of... Well, it's very picturesque, serene,
outbound, off-e.
When you ain't seen it, when you ain't never seen it.
What else is there in Salt Lake City to see?
You talk about the weather, like Miami and shit.
A lot of mountains.
Nice out here.
LA, yeah.
How much you making?
What, let me see.
Nah, see, you breaking it down so much.
Stop, stop.
What I'm saying is, just think about it.
You don't want to go here.
So you basically saying
you're willing to sacrifice
third pick money,
fourth pick money,
fifth pick money to possibly be
sixth or eighth.
Right? So you're thinking about 9.1 this year. fifth pick money to possibly be sixth or eighth, right?
So he's making about 9.1 this year.
So you're sacrificing how much money?
So third pick is making 11.1, so he would,
about two million dollars.
So two, four, six, eight, so about eight million dollars,
10 million dollars over that contract, right?
About, yeah, about nine, nine, yeah, nine.
So I'm willing to take nine million dollars less.
Tennessee, though, is totally different from Utah.
He ain't never seen it.
So what I'm saying, if I'm gonna get drafted to Utah,
like I'd rather just take my money
and just put me in Philly.
Nah, he'll nah.
Just put me in Philly, like, I mean,
cause I didn't wanna go here.
I would've.
We got five shoes, small.
What I'm saying is,
but if I'm gonna go to a place that I didn't want to go
I don't want to go to none of you places if I don't want to go to none of y'all
I rather go to I rather take much. I just rather take my nine million dollars just state your ass in Newark something goddamn
Rockers shit you want to go none of them?
Just got away one more year just stay in Rutgers another year. There you shit. It's just got away in New Jersey. Mm-hmm
Okay, looking at this jazz roster,
how would Ace Bailey fit with this current squad?
You want my honest answer?
I would like...
I have no earthly idea
because I've never seen him play, so.
Okay, well that would...
He's like, uh...
He's like, Paul...
I appreciate your honesty.
I like your kind of answer.
Yeah, I like your kind of answer.
You want my honest answer?
You want me to call you?
I just... You want me to call you like the media do? It's the real me. You want me to say some bullshit? Yeah, I like your hands. Yeah, I like that. You want my hands? You want me to do like the media do?
The real media?
You want me to say some bullshit?
Oh yeah, the kid is very athletic.
He has a high motor.
He can get it going.
3ND guy, he's in, so whatever,
you want me to say some bullshit.
I can easily do that.
That's what them motherfuckers do.
They ain't never seen the niggas play.
They just write up some shit that make it sound good.
But if they drafted him fifth and he was supposed
to go highest third, I can only assume
that he can fucking play basketball.
And he's real good, he's athletic,
he does things that certain people can't do.
Yeah, so.
PG said previously he was the second best pick
or option besides Cooper Flagg.
Cool, so if that's the, but I.
He has more than Cooper Flagg.
Yeah, he has probably the highest ceiling.
Yeah.
Right, he probably has the highest ceiling. Yeah.
Right, he probably has the highest ceiling
because of his intangibles, right?
You know, 16 with his shoes on,
so you're talking about somebody who can literally play
one, two, three, and a small four.
Yeah, can handle.
Can handle, can shoot, can start the offense,
you can put him at the point.
Like he's, that's his flexibility in his game.
So he has the highest ceiling.
Worst case scenario,
I don't even wanna throw a name out there.
Cause, yeah.
But he's doing good.
Like, I mean, like, he can pull out an all-star
just from just raw talent.
Like they win, he's averaging about 21, 20, you know.
So whether or not Cooper Flagg hit me in number one pick?
If you're Dallas, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Harper is the, Harper is that guaranteed, too.
Like he's my safe pick because he's 6'6", can shoot,
can play, like, you know what I mean?
Like if I'm looking for something steady that I'm,
like I know, you know, this is gonna be his yeah, he probably might not go this high
You know what I mean? Like, you know, he probably might not be a 30-point score
He could be like but he's gonna be that solid good player then that's that's what you want to go with if you don't want to
Think that probably should watch more college basketball
It's hard. It's hard to keep track of everybody. The reason is everybody leaving transport portal
Don't know it's hard because it's such a different game.
It is.
It's such a different game that's something that looks great in college, right?
Your great in college atmosphere, like you come into the NBA where who you are, that's
everybody on the court.
So all I can do is really look at the tangibles and say are.
One-on-one there's own in a month.
So it's hard to tell what he can really do.
You know, I so is crowded.
You know what I mean?
So you got to basically do guesswork.
I got you.
So if you could score it with all that if you can score with all that then you should be able to just one-on-one should be easy.
Of course, there's a lot of the shit these days the work the
The drafts and all that shit is done before these guys reach the college anyway
Yeah, they projected to be this and be that anyway before they pick whatever school they're going to so
Yeah, I like watching the tournament if somebody's around they, they tell me, you need to watch this kid play.
I'll watch him.
Yeah, but if, like the kid from Baylor that Philly took,
like I didn't like watch his shit.
I'm like, damn, he bouncy as shit.
Oh, I remember him back then.
Yeah, I remember that.
Oh my God, who is this?
And looking like, see,
when they was playing.
I'm saying, dude, I'm watching the draft.
When they asked me about him, I'm like.
Bahamas, remember he was trying to make the Olympics and he was cooking.
He was, he came because he played with Kyan.
Yeah, you know, when they came here to play,
like, oh, all right.
Man.
Okay.
Let's speak of the Bahamas, talk about another player
from the Bahamas.
Blazers have been active this off season,
acquiring Drew Holliday from the Celtics for Ann Simons, trading 11th pick Cedric Howard to the Grizzlies for 16th pick Yang
Hanson, a 20-28 first rounder and two second rounders. Hanson was graded as the second
round talent but moved up to the first round with Sun calling him Chinese yokich. That's
what they're saying, not me. So in the wake of that draft day trade and a roster full
of centers, the Blazers have decided to buy out DeAndre Aiden with Aiden having no trade market according to reports. Aiden was due nearly 36 million on an expiring
$133 million contract he signed in 2022 with the Suns
He played only 40 games reported in the last season second few of his career and appeared in 95 out of a possible
164 games over the past two seasons. So according to ESPN's Bobby Marks,
Aiden is now free to sign with any team
including those in both salary cap aprons
despite earning greater than $14.1 million
as a waiver restriction that would normally prevent
a player with Aiden's contract from signing with the team
in the second apron applies only during the regular season.
So when you look at this situation,
first and foremost, what do y'all think about
the Blazers deciding to buy out Deandre Hayden?
It's funny cuz as a player average 14 and 10 as a player you're trying to buck me out and I can I don't got to do none for it. All right, cool. I go stop me but I can't to leave to leave.
I will give it all to me.
I'm gonna give it all to me.
All right, she's even some of it.
All right, I gotta go to work.
All right.
I can start training.
I can start training right now. I got 14 to 10 last season, shot 50 something.
And I don't like that number.
Whatever the buyer number, I don't like that number.
I don't like that number.
I don't like that number.
Now we're getting close to the numbers that number neither. Yeah, I don't like that number neither.
Now we're getting closer to the numbers that I like. Right?
You know, I just sit the fuck at home.
Somebody'll call.
Oh, somebody'll call.
Somebody'll call.
Cause now he's worth what?
36?
What he's supposed to get?
36.
Now imagine, and this is what I'm talking about.
Imagine now adding someone
Who contract value is 36 and he now will take anything because he already gets whatever he already gets his main contract
So it's like hey, I got 1.5. We I got to him. She I let's go
Ain't gonna be starter. Yeah, but obviously probably okay
Let's go cuz now in the be starter. Yeah. But obviously probably won't be. Okay, let's go.
Because now.
I'm in the best position to get another deal
after this one. Yes, now you're making me a starter
for two million dollars.
Now I can jump my contract back up
while already having.
Go out and play well,
and sign a one year deal for that
and come out there motherfucking average.
Average, he has to double double with the,
so if he's motivated.
Lakers don't sign bruh.
What? Bruh. Oh my God. Bruh. to double double with the mint so if he's motivated Lakers don't sign bro what? bro oh my god bro it'd be the first time in my life or since
two thousand since 96 that I will just say nah I'm good like I'm if we don't
sign I'm already pissed off now because we do got Lucas, so nevermind, nevermind. Don't worry about it.
But if we don't sign him to the 1.2.
Huh?
Is it up to him, man?
Y'all trying to sign Book Lopez.
Nah, hell no, not before eight.
That is the discourse, apparently.
We can get him both.
We can get him both, but not before eight.
No, dawg.
Hey, man.
I'm going to beat him.
Do I miss it? Am I, like, I get it. He's expanded. Hey, man. Hey, I'm going to beat him. Do I miss it?
Am I like, I get it.
He's expanded his changes game.
And who?
Brooke Lopez.
I understand.
Like came out, I evolved his game to what the NBA is today.
I get it.
That's it.
Just hit a three and a half a game, are we good? That's it. Hit a three and a half a game, are we good?
That's shit. And he's shooting that motherfucker in his bad shots at times.
When he do shoot that motherfucker. I'm like, God damn, Brooke, that's what you feel?
I be watching that shit, Yon is firing that motherfucker over there. He be 32 feet fired that motherfucker.
I'm like, yeah. Hey man.
Yes, man. Hey man and Porzingiz both be out there firing that motherfucker, but he like, yeah. Hey man. Damn Leonard Threes. Yes, yes man. Oh damn.
Hey man, Porzingis, both be out there firing it motherfucker,
but he worse than Porzingis at times.
But I'm just trying to figure out what's the lore.
Like how many, is he still a lead shot blocker?
Does he still?
Yeah, no, he still play a little defense.
Like he still plays, he still play defense.
So is he a starting fighter?
Block side.
So would you go get him and be out, if.
Nah, he can't.
So if he's on, so if it's either or
can't move his feet for the late either or aiding or Lopez with my waiting okay
I'm waiting for all right okay I'm just watching play evolve and it's just I get
it he's like what our thing he's he's a downgrade Zubak no if you just if you decided to give him the ball down there, he can score
He can't just don't go down there. No more
It was cold back in the
Junkie, I was deaf. I don't think I'm being and why it is and everybody was guarding them
No get a bucket on the bike every time we post them. I'm like
The little turnaround jump the little step turn around he's just yeah,, I'm like, why you don't just do that the whole time? The little turnaround jump, the little step,
the turnaround.
But he's just, because he's right there.
Yeah, he can still do that.
Yeah.
Average 13 and 5 last season.
13 and 5, what?
How many blocks?
Two blocks per game.
See, that's good.
See, that's good.
But the five rebounds is, we need to do a little more.
Because what he does is, play free throw line, free throw line.
Yeah, he's hanging out at the three.
Shit.
What he do good is old school,
where box your man out.
So he does the Stephen Adams.
Yeah.
I'm gonna make sure my man don't get it.
I got two of y'all.
Yeah, I'm gonna take two of them.
Somebody else get this rebound, he's that.
But serviceable, yes.
I'm not, people don't give me,
serviceable big in this,
serviceable big in this NBA, yes.
As a starter and the things that he does,
I'm like, I don't, he's,
I'm going to get other bigs right now
before I'm getting Brooke.
And if Brooke is there, I'm like, I can use Brooke.
Yeah, he's,
It's my point.
He's, he's series starter,
depending on who we're playing in the series.
Okay.
If he's playing big, you're playing Jokic.
Yeah, we're playing Jokic.
We're playing Zubac.
Zubac, you need a big, you go out.
Okay.
I'm with it.
I'm with it.
You gotta get Aiden though.
No, we got to get Aiden.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
He had a chance, man.
Because he's athletic.
Yeah.
He can score.
Score.
Right? He can defend a little bit.
We just need a little bit.
I think anything would be an upgrade.
For motivation, man.
I think the right conversations.
Don't say that about him.
I like Jackson Hayes, but it'd be an upgrade from Jackson.
But it's just, you are, I don't know him.
I can't speak for him.
I just like, what motivates him?
Like, what is it gonna take?
Is it gonna take some honest conversations?
Is it gonna take this situation, getting bought out,
somebody don't want you?
Like, I don't know what is.
But where it start from?
Look, Chris Wall?
Ain't no Chris Wall getting into it?
No, I don't know.
The room has just been out there, he just don't.
He wanted to be the...
Oh, he wanted to be a main focal point in the offense?
Yeah.
Right, man, that's just being young.
You're the number one pick.
Yeah.
I get it, bro.
You know what I mean?
Give me the ball.
I get it, but what is my skill set, right?
Yeah, I wanted that motherfucker, but what is my skill set?
Like, what am I good at?
What do I do?
What do I thrive at, right?
That's what you gotta realize,
as a number one pick young, trying to find your way.
What am I good at?
What do I thrive at?
What do I have an advantage at?
How can I make myself look as best possible?
That's like me coming in my rookie album.
Okay, I'm gonna come out this bitch,
I'm gonna shoot a hundred threes in my rookie album.
Like no, fucking athlete.
Run and dump, jump.
Start shooting them over time.
Jump, try to move, yeah, of course, but block shots,
be dominant in that role, right?
Young Greg Oden, be dominant in that role.
Like, okay, I'm limited in certain things,
but what do I do to make money?
Like, where's my motor?
Why did I get drafted?
Why do I get drafted number one, right?
He was there with, when they went to the championship, right?
And he got traded once Cary came.
That was the bad trade for them.
When they traded him for no, yeah.
That was the bad trade.
And you playing for a coach who ain't got traded him
for Nerkut, you thought you needed something.
That was off emotion.
Yeah, and then you got a coach over there
that ain't got the tolerance for the bullshit.
For the young bullshit, like he just don't.
Aiden was a restricted free agent
back when he had an offer with the Pacers.
Signed the offer sheet.
He matched it.
Sons matched it.
Within 24 hours.
Made him come back.
We know you don't want to be,
so that's the thing, dog.
With this league.
But you say he averaged what last year?
14 and 10.
Oh I thought you said five.
No 14 and 10.
Brooke Lowe has 13 and five.
But half of his shots per game were three.
I'm gonna tell you the thing about this NBA, right?
You, like Phoenix, y'all knew
that this man didn't want to be there.
You knew this already.
It's been,
I signed somewhere else,
cause I don't want to be here.
And y'all match it, like that's like that. Yeah.
Like somebody got like,
there should be some type of stipulation rules
behind some shit like that, man.
Like you, like, I understand you like I Understand you on that but
Then if I decide not to show up, I'm the bad guy
Come on man. Hey man, I'm just beyond
That wizard shit you got over
It's that wizard shit you got on, bro. Fucking your whole head up.
He's 26 years old.
He's in the same draft as Luca.
I just thought about it.
He's in the same draft as Luca.
And he was the number one pick.
He was the number one pick.
Luca and Bit, this will be moving forward in the future.
Because you're not talking about a guy who actually fell off.
Like, he's since day one has averaged a double double every year.
So if he's on an open market, you what is this value?
What was he trying to make him bad?
No, what I'm saying is that at 26, you're 26 years old,
you average a double double every year.
What is his actual value in this NBA?
Don't know.
Is it 36 million?
He signed it.
No, what I'm saying is, Indiana wanted him for a reason.
He signed that number that Phoenix matched for a reason.
He was the only place that they wanted him.
He was sought out for a reason.
Things in Portland hasn't worked out.
No, what I'm saying is, you just let him go,
he averaged 14 and 10.
You don't like him at average at 14.
What is that value?
That's still 30 million a year.
Yes, absolutely.
So, if you were another team,
if he asked for 20 million for one year, are you taking it?
Yes. Yes.
Discount.
Right now, yes.
He's asking for double-double.
That's what I'm saying.
And look at the bigs that's out there, though.
But number one, listen, number one pick for a reason.
You've been consistent.
It just looks different.
Two seasons removed from averaging 18 to 10
with that Suns in 22, 23.
What I'm saying is, if he, if,
like people are gonna think they can get him
for a discount value, right?
But his market value steel is it like these are the trade value
It does that was a lie. I hate you. I mean, you don't have it. It's just y'all can't get back which are what yeah
Yes, that's all that is
Y'all y'all trying to finesse somebody and then motherfuckers like now
Y'all trying to finesse somebody and them motherfuckers like nah.
Portland trying to finesse people for it. They trying to over-vite and other teams ain't biting on it probably.
Like I'm trying to figure out if I'm a general manager looking at these numbers shooting 56% from the field.
He's shooting damn near for his career 60% from the field.
the field. It what stop how much money does Houston have?
Like I'm just trying to figure like oh he can get whatever I mean at the end of the
day if he's a free agent he's a free agent so he's a free agent now he has to be the
most important free agent in the moment of time.
If you're just going off of period numbers, average in a double-double your whole career
shooting 60% from your career from the field and you're 26 years old.
Why are you talking like this?
The Lakers are trying to get him right now.
I would say he doesn't have... I'm just kidding.
I ain't trying to fuck with his brand.
Give that man his money.
He going to get it.
He going to get it.
If he doesn't get 10 right now...
He can get 20.
What's stopping him? I'm just kidding, I ain't trying to fuck with this bread. Like, get that man his money. Now he gonna get it.
He gonna get it.
If he can get 10 right now.
He can get 20, like what stops?
20 and what, yeah.
Men lie, women lie.
14 and 10 don't.
Clip.
Yes.
I'm just thinking about so many teams that like whatever free agent you was looking at is like he just
becomes the number one free agent in the open market because
he changes your franchise because of the age because he
already has money. So basically whoever he wanna says, yeah,
I'm willing to come there to say **** you to Portland. He
does that too.
Indiana, if you got money. I mean there's just so many.
New York.
I like that.
I mean New York, that's an upgrade offensively
for you at the five.
Cause he does more than Mitch Robinson.
Yes.
Shit, don't bossing me to big.
And I believe.
I'm not bossing, trying to get rid of money. Hayden and Luca, they're the same age. They just got rid of me. shit don't boss and eat a bit I believe
Aiden and Luca, they're the same age.
Luca and Aiden, see that's why I fell for it.
See I fell for it because yeah it's good shit.
Bill Duffy. Luca and what? Luca and Aiden got the same age.
Y'all know how this game goes. Absolutely.
We will see what happens. I love Luca.
Friends are friends are friends. Luca's friends is baby.
De'Andre, you start off lost there.
I love my friends be friends and then bringing on they friends.
But let's move on to mostly fans.
He can start here.
What are you talking about?
He can start here.
The nigga can start wherever he goes.
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We are.
Who's the gentleman?
Where's this?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
Y'all know, be some, is this some Denny Ains?
Is this some Denny Ains,
Boston type shit?
That's what I'm saying, he going to Boston, man.
Who is over there?
Joe Cronin.
Where's his ties come from?
Where's his lineage?
Let me see.
Oh, to the Lakers.
Originally from Caucasus.
Let me see.
Where's his lineage?
Because he did it for somebody.
I think he has been with the Blazers.
It's all life.
He knows somebody that knows somebody.
No, he started with the Blazers in 06 and worked his way up the ladder.
He was a system customer.
He got friends.
Okay, all right.
Has this ever happened before? 26 healthy and get bought out in the...
They normally blackball them back then.
Yeah, I've never seen this before.
That's why I'm so shocked.
Okay, all right.
So, listen, if he...
It's 23 of me.
I mean, listen, if he comes to the Lakers, man...
We have one question.
He's the youngest?
Yeah, I knew that was... I ain't tripping. We have one question. He's the youngest?
Yeah, I knew that was, I ain't tripping.
We got an email question from underdog user,
BornToCash, the question is,
who are you taking as a third option,
Derrick White or Austin Reaves?
Who are you taking as a third option,
Derrick White or Austin Reaves?
See, let me take my,
gotta take off my gentleman hat,
cause the first question I want to ask,? Shit. I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR.
I'm gonna take AR. I'm gonna take AR. I'm gonna take AR. I'm gonna take AR. I'm gonna take AR.
Papadi Limon as he's known.
AR 15.
I like AR game.
Yeah.
Game is nice.
Which is also intriguing.
Derrick White is going to make $28 million this year.
Like we mentioned Austin Reed is closer to 14, so basically half the price.
It depends on what, you know, we need AR to do.
But just wait for it to happen. Which is also intriguing. Derek White is going to make $28 million this year. We mentioned Austin Reeves closer to 14,
so basically half the price.
It depends on what, you know, we need AR to be AR.
Last but not least, let's move to this side of the couch.
Kenyon, who are you taking as your third option?
Derek White or Austin Reeves?
Derek White.
Why are you picking Derek White?
Because I want to.
That is why we generally do things in life.
You just like him better as a third up.
You've seen that?
But technically that's the answer
you're supposed to give to him.
Why you question him?
Why you question what?
You question them two motherfuckers over there.
Thank you, thank you.
I said, what's the answer?
I see what y'all are on today.
The director positive is on the way.
They didn't have the answer why they picked AR.
Because he's the best third option in the league.
It was a simple answer.
It was a simple answer.
People keep mad like, nigga, why you picked this nigga there, Gwai?
West King.
He scared me. No, angry. Scared.
No, just.
So we asked the chat,
who you're taking as a third option,
Derrick White or Austin Reaves?
64% of the chat prefers Derrick White.
They're in line with yours.
They picked him because they want to as well.
Just saying.
No, because,
because chat is thinking about
the champion part of it.
Right, they're gonna use, oh, he's a champion,
he's a gold medalist.
So, I used to just, to them as two, just two individuals.
It just depends on what you need.
I'm just, as two, just as two individuals,
the skill set of just those two.
Yeah, I'm getting the same offensive.
We offensive mind, that's what I'm,
we offensive mind. He play all around. If I need somebody to do everything, I'm getting the same offensive. Big offensive mind. I'm getting the same offensive mind. Big offensive mind.
He play all around.
If I need somebody to do everything,
I'm going there, right?
But everything, but.
That's what I did.
That's what I'm saying.
But I'm saying, if you started your team today,
nobody else on it.
That's how, when I go like that,
I don't look at them in the situation they are.
It's like, all right, let me remove everybody.
And these are the two people I got to start my team with.
I hope I don't have to just.
That's how I do it, I don't.
Okay.
So.
That's why the first thing I wanna say,
what team do I have?
Yeah, I line them up, I got them two guys,
I look at you, they both similar offensively.
I think Derek White is a better defender, so I just.
Better defender, general.
That moves the needle for me in that regard,
but they both similarize offensively.
Appreciate you gentlemen.
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Work your magic.
I gotta do my part, man.
What you need, man?
You can come to the arena.
What you need, man?
You need some holes?
What you need, man?
He has been seen with some of the...
Yeah, I mean, he been...
And on that note...
He been in Arizona, he been in...
We got the plastics over here, you know what I mean?
You had natural hair, natural hair. Look, if you want Build-A-Bears, we got the plastics over here, you know what I mean? You had natural, they had natural, look.
If you want, if you want Build-A-Bears,
we got Build-A-Bear white girls over here.
Build-A-Bear.
He got some of them there.
Oh, you got some of the best?
He got them.
Oh, you already got them?
He got some of them.
And we can't offer him that.
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