Gil's Arena - LeBron James' MVP Season Sparks A Gil's Arena Meltdown

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

LeBron James' MVP Season Sparks A Gil's Arena Meltdown as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to LeBron James' vintage season where the King is carrying Luka Doncic and the Los Angeles Lakers ...to the 2nd seed in the NBA's Western Conference and putting up numbers similar to his greatest season ever. They also react to his comments on the NBA media putting down it's superstars and face of the NBA and debate if LeBron is spitting or tripping on the role the media has in diminishing the product of the NBA. Next, The Gil's Arena Crew reacts to the most shocking comeback of the weekend where Donovan Mitchell & The Cleveland Cavaliers overcame a 22 point deficit to take down the Boston Celtics and debate if this gutsy performance over a top team was enough to prove the Cavs legitimacy in the race for the NBA Playoffs before celebrating Jayson Tatum's birthday and discussing what the Celtics' superstar needs to do to shed the mountains of criticism facing his game despite being one of the NBA's brightest stars. Then, Gil breaks down Steph Curry's season high 56 points, sparking a debate on the Golden State Warriors ceiling if Steph and Jimmy Butler can keep up their winning ways since the NBA Trade Deadline. Finally, The GA Crew reacts to Joel Embiid getting officially shutdown for the season and potentially his career by the Philadelphia 76ers and Gilbert Arenas gets real on his viral appearance on First Take where Stephen A Smith finally admitted to ducking his spot inside Gil's Arena. Please us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Swaggy P & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with @shop.mando and get $5 off your Starter Pick (that’s over 40% off) with promo code GIL at https://shopmando.com! #mandopod USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Stream Josiah's Film "Memes & Nightmares" Available NOW on Hulu and Disney+ 0:00:00 2 Min Timer 0:01:59 The Gil's Arena Crew Clowns Gil On First Take 0:09:51 First Take Gil Enters The Arena 0:17:30 Steph Curry Shows No Signs of Slowing Down 0:35:51 Who Belongs On The NBA Mount Rushmore? 0:56:39 LeBron Speaks On The Media Tearing Down Superstars 1:33:42 How To Guard Luka Doncic 1:46:33 LeBron Deserves To Be An MVP 1:58:55 Celtics Trick Off Huge Lead To The Cavs 2:13:17 Team USA Ruined Joel Embiid 2:27:01 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Yeah. Surprise, surprise. I'm getting down. Couch feel a little light right now on this glorious Monday. Black History Month now in our rear view. Oh, surprise. I'm getting tired of this guy. Koush, feel a little light right now on this glorious Monday. Black History Month now in our rear view. Oh, man. Luka History Month just beginning. How everybody feeling?
Starting point is 00:01:13 Good? Anybody see Gil? Anybody see Gil today? Uh-huh. Okay, well. Okay. He must be Hollywood now. Cool.
Starting point is 00:01:23 That's where we on now. He just... Oh, yeah. He was on the show. He. That's what we on now. He just got other shows. Yeah, wait till you get it. If he comes, wait till you get it. We gonna get it. We gonna get it. He gonna get it.
Starting point is 00:01:33 He gonna put on a fucking jacket and shit. I was gonna let him live. I was gonna let him live. I thought you didn't need a jacket to talk sports. He wearing his good outfits now. He uses inside voice a whole lot. Real calm. Real inside voice.
Starting point is 00:01:42 You was real Uncle Tom and shit. Real inside. They telling that like he was a whole lot. Real inside voice. You was real Uncle Tom and shit in there. Real inside. You was real old house in there, man. He let Juan heard say a whole lot. You didn't put none of them in there.
Starting point is 00:01:58 All that shit you be talking. He sat up straight too, dude. What, he was sitting up straight? He sat up straight. Annunciating? Pronouncing names correctly and shit? He didn't mess nobody's name up. Damn.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. He was in that motherfucker. That dance revolution. That dance. That dance revolution. Damn. Well, go be with your other show then, Gil. Go be with your other show since you love her so much.
Starting point is 00:02:27 Green with everything. That's your man. Since you love her so much. That's your man. I understand. I get it. In the meantime, in between time, this is Gil's Arena presented by underdog, Woo Woo.
Starting point is 00:02:37 We got NBA champion of the world, Swaggy P. Nick Young here with us. We got the bully from Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Kenyon Martin on the couch. On time, I might add. And last but not least, we got the man known as Cemetery Larry Rashad McKenzie in the building. Also on time for this show.
Starting point is 00:02:59 New media. You already know. So, but before we start the show, I got to give some love to the entire Gil's Arena crew. We made some of our own history during Black History Month, sending monthly records for total subscribers, total views in February. Whoo!
Starting point is 00:03:14 That look of magic, ladies and gentlemen. We would celebrate with Gil if he was here, but apparently we just the other... We the sideshow now. That's how he think of it. Yeah, how you treat us. Treat us like the sideshow. He ain't the star, he don't really.
Starting point is 00:03:27 We didn't have no snacks this morning when we came in. No parking spot. Man. It was different today. Security looking at me different today, said, who is you? Said, it's me, Black Ass. Yeah, Black Ass. Why you no more than us earlier?
Starting point is 00:03:40 But for all the fans, we still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, mobile, vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. LeBron broke his silence on the face of the league discussions and the state of the league when it comes to media coverage. But is King James spitting or tripping?
Starting point is 00:03:59 The Celtics blew a 22-point home lead against the top-seeded Cavs. Will Cleveland turn back into Believe Land this postseason? And the Sixers shut down Joel Embiid for the rest of the season, but will the extended time off help the superstar get back to playing at an NBA level? We will discuss right here on this couch, but before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog. Go ahead, download the app, use promo code GIL, get up to $1,000 in bonus cash, plus a special pick'em after tonight Gil who is still not in
Starting point is 00:04:26 The arena as of what 1142 1141 Pacific and on this glorious Monday He does have some picks up in his partner pack on the underdog out. Let us take a look. I hope they all don't hit I hope they all don't hit he got Steph Curry higher 4.5.5 assists. They're at the Hornets. Draymond Green higher, 7.5 points. Mark Williams higher, 9.5 rebounds. Bam Adebayo lower, 12.5 rebounds. You can win four times your bread if you take that pick. And I know Underdog cuts the check, but Underdog, Gil, Gil acting different now. So I will discourage all of you.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Go with the Josiah partner pack. Just go lower on everybody. Lower on everybody. We asked to chat, uh... They're riding or fading right now, but how y'all feel about Gil's picks? I can't believe Mark Williams up there. Yeah, he acting brand new. Yeah. Brand new. Just like Mark Williams needs.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I don't like DeDre Mime at all. No 7.5 points? Oh, he don't do that. Yeah, he get 8 pointsmond at all. No 7.5 points? Oh, he don't do that. Yeah, he get eight points. No way. No way. Oh, nah, nah. On the Hornets, he get eight points.
Starting point is 00:05:31 He ain't going to get that. Eight points? They're going to blow him out too, bro. He get eight points. Nah. He don't get it. How much he average? Eight.
Starting point is 00:05:41 That mean lower. Yeah. He might not even play, to tell you the truth. He'll get his average with six. Yeah. Get them rebounds. He might not even play, to tell you the truth. He'll get his average with six. Yeah. Mm. We could get a partner back. Probably sit out for a quarter.
Starting point is 00:05:51 That's what I'm thinking. Brand new Gilbert Arenas. Don't even show up to his real show. Oh, damn. He really ain't here. Don't spend time with his real family no more. Hey. He's still a good nigga, though.
Starting point is 00:06:03 He take care of his real family If you like these pics Oh before we do that Kinda quiet It is It's a little somber We asked to chat Good job Chad
Starting point is 00:06:12 We asked to chat If they're riding or fading Where is he at? We asked to chat If they're riding or fading With Gil's pics 63% said they're fading Good job Chad
Starting point is 00:06:20 It's Hey Gil day today You want me to bring him back With the gloves Yeah bring him back With the gloves I left the gloves. Bring him out the bag. He's stuck in the Soul Stone. Is he in the body bag?
Starting point is 00:06:29 No, no, no. Okay, let's make it sure. Nobody seen him. As always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of every show. If you drop a good question in the chat with your underdog username, we use it on this program. $50 bonus to your underdog account. If you send a video at mostlyfansgil at gmail.com, we use that video on the show.
Starting point is 00:06:43 $100 bonus to your account. If you can't watch the show live with us on YouTube, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. Well, Gil is not here, but we still gonna show some love to the Gil's Arena crew who did show up on time for this glorious Monday show. We're on a mission to get one million, I mean
Starting point is 00:06:57 one gillion subscribers. As of right now, the Gil's Arena channel, over 940,000 subscribers. Strong. We want to get to a million. To show our thanks to all of you, Underdog is giving away $1,000 in bonus cash for every 1,000 subscribers we gain between 900,000 and a million.
Starting point is 00:07:15 We were at 932 our last episode. We were at 940 today. That means we were giving away at least $8,000 of Underdog's bread on the show today. All you got to do is subscribe to the Gills Arena YouTube channel. Also, make sure you have an underdog account so we can get you your bread. Like I said, we've passed 940,000 subs, announcing at least eight winners today on the show. But we'll let you know three of the winners right now. First winner, Michael Mars.
Starting point is 00:07:41 You got $1,000 in underdog bonus cash coming to your account. Appreciate you. Next winner, I've Been Heavy. You got $1,000 coming to your underdog account. And I've been heavy, too. All right, so I get it. All right, let's stick together. You ain't been heavy.
Starting point is 00:08:01 You still heavy. You crazy. You still heavy. I got those epic next. I got those epic next. You still heavy, nigga. You crazy. You still heavy. I got the ojepic neck. I got the ojepic neck. You see it? Last but not least, Treetop176. Treetop176. I don't know if it's that kind of Treetop. Right, right? Treetop.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Don't pull up on the show on no bullshit, sir, but you have $1,000 coming to your underdog account. We will announce at least five more winners at the end on the show on no bullshit, sir, but you have $1,000 coming to your underdog account. We will announce at least five more winners at the end of the show. Where is Gil? We got a show to do. Yeah, I got to talk about... Oh, here he is.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Oh, shit. Denzel Washington. Yeah, how you doing? You seen me? Mm-hmm. Yeah. He talking to Denzel now? Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:44 He got some boat shoes on. Yeah, He talking to Denzel now? Okay. He got some boat shoes on. Yeah, I got this little podcast I got to do real quick. It's a little podcast now? I'll be with you. We got a show coming? All right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Bye-bye. Ladies and gentlemen, Gilbert Arenas has entered the arena. Whoa, whoa. Woo! Woo! Let's go. Oh, he brand new now. You're getting ear adapts in here now, huh?
Starting point is 00:09:15 Looking like Otis. My legs. Ooh, that Dolce & Gabbana sock. Where the rest of them at? Where the rest of the sock at? He always wears those. I'm time sensitive. Can we get this little thing going? Are we just a little show now? I'm time. This is cute. This is nice.
Starting point is 00:09:34 What y'all got going on here? You know, just a little studio or whatever in your basement. Your house where you live. Little ass. Little ass. This little shit y'all got This little shit's all going on. Gil, you acted mighty different. Ew.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Go be with your other show then. I like this. Luan, Luan. So I guess we got to talk about the elephant in the room. Gil, you closed out February by making some black history, not only on Gil's Arena, your main show, I might add, your real family, but making your first appearance on ESPN's First Take.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Despite the short notice, short notice, we were on playback when you made the announcement Thursday night. Despite the short notice, limited time to prep for the show, I'm a hater, but I'm gonna admit you did your thing. I represented for Gil's Arena, presented my underdog, Woo Woo. So I guess we all wanna know, what was your experience
Starting point is 00:10:27 like on first day? Who is we? We as in me. So what the fuck is it? I'm not French. We, we? If you can win, you can beat. What's up with this French shit?
Starting point is 00:10:36 If you can win, you can beat. C'est la vie. You talking about? Say, you want to know. I would like to know. Sorry, K. I don't fucking new people. You move my cup, bro.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I don't need no new friends. They trying to meet new inwards. Yeah came on fucking new people new friends On the show I drink sparkling ice cream. She ain't from Fiji, man. You ever been on Air Force One? I had a pair of Air Force Ones in my childhood, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I've never been either, but I'm sure the experience there is the same of the experience at the ESPN studio. Oh, Air Force One. Very elegant.
Starting point is 00:11:23 What are we, spirit? Treating me like royalty. Mm. What studio did you go to? Huh? What studio did you go to? Kenyon, right? That is the bully from Ucliffe,
Starting point is 00:11:41 former number one, J.K. Martin. Nah, nah, nah. It was good. Nah, you got to keep it up. Nah, keep going. Nah, I could. I could, man. Once he started laughing, I...
Starting point is 00:11:59 You got to keep it up, bro. That was a good one. So disappointing. So disappointing. I could, man. I could. My bad. I know, Sean. That was good. Oh disappointing Burberry oh shit I couldn't hold it. It was hot as hell in this goddamn jacket. Yo, my bitch. Fucking Burberry? Holy shit, man. Mm-mm. Mm-mm, right?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Oh, look. No, it was good. You know, different format. I mean, I've never been in a big building. Oh, shit. It's kind of like how we do it. There's different sets inside the same one building. So just like anything new, you get nervous at the beginning.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Trying to figure out the format so I can get inside there. Getting where you fit in, that's what they say. Oh, this is boring. Well, good one. Appreciate that. Congrats. Congrats, Gil. Dang, Goliath, you look kind of nice with that suit on.
Starting point is 00:13:10 You didn't do your thing. You did do your thing. Right here. That's a big deal. Big suit. I like suit, Gil. I had to spit it when I was like 240. So for those of us who have not been invited on First Take, what was it like going take for take with Stephen A. Smith?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Mm. Well, you know, obviously it's not our style where we can go back and forth. You know, everything is kind of like time. So, you know, he goes, you go, and then he goes. So, um... I mean, it's just like anything, man. It's really not, um...
Starting point is 00:13:45 It's just opinion-based. You know, you try to put your facts in. Mm-hmm. I got a question. So what happened to him supposed to come here? Okay, that's a very good question. So... Like, I knew...
Starting point is 00:13:58 Good, you got... I'm happy you got... But that was never part of the fucking... He came on this motherfucker. We saw it with all our eyes. We sat here and watched him. That is Larry. Right?
Starting point is 00:14:12 I'm going to pull up. I'm busy. I believe he said a couple weeks. It has been 130 days. Yeah. 130 days. It's been like a half a year down there since. Because he said he was coming through.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I'm just trying to wonder what... Yeah since. Because he said he was coming through. 130 of them. I'm just trying to wonder what happened. Yeah, see, I thought he actually lived here. I guess he lives in New York, does a show there, and comes here once in a blue moon. Yeah, so he was here in the city. Yeah, he was here, but he was here Thursday night. We all have time. We would have, Miles.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Listen, we would have made time. Yeah, so we got to probably prerecord. No, we would have went live. We would have been at 10 o'clock. We would have just come to New York, Gil, on Underdog's Bread. It would have been a 10. It would have been a late night edition. He would have come here, so he's either got to pre-record or when he's here on a Monday through Thursday. Yeah, it would have been a put the kids to bed edition.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Uh-oh. It's all good, man. So we got to come. So most likely it has to be a Friday show. Oh, so we got to make a session. So we got to come. So most likely it has to be a Friday show. Oh, so we got to make a... So we got to make a... So we got to make a... Because they film...
Starting point is 00:15:09 They end at nine, so trying to get here by that time. Nah, nigga, we shoot money through thirds. Carpool lane. Nigga, we shoot money through thirds. Carpool lane. 11.30 to two. Nigga, make time.
Starting point is 00:15:19 He said he ready. You made time to go when his ass was on there, right? He can make time when we on there to bring his ass on the show when we all Actions for this Special not on this show What's our old saying when I blow up, you blow up. Boom, boom! When I blow up, you blow up.
Starting point is 00:15:45 That's what it was. Damn, that's fucked up. We blow up. I blow up. I blow up. We? When I blow up, I blow up. I'm going to fuck this motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm bringing this motherfucker around here. And I never see this guy. With signs. With signs. You brought Young Jeezy to the hood? No better than that. Get that nigga. But in all sincerity, Stephen A., we're waiting for you.
Starting point is 00:16:09 We got a spot on the couch ready to go. 130 days, not that we're counting. Pull up to Gillsbury and present him my $100. Whoa, whoa. All right, now let's get on to some basketball discussion. So Steph Curry may be damn near 37 years old, but the former Unanimous MVP is showing no signs of slowing down. Thursday, Steph and the Warriors pulled up to Orlando
Starting point is 00:16:27 in the midst of a four-game winning streak to take on the Magic. Chef Curry turned the arena into his Magic kingdom. Let's take a look at some of the highlights. Steph dropped a season-high 56 points in the win, 16 for 25 from the field, 12 for 19 from three. The Magic shot 11 for 28 from three for the game. Steph outshot the Magic from deep. During one stretch, Steph outscored the Magic 22 to 21 in the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:16:53 It was Steph's NBA record ninth 50-point game after turning 30, which is two more games of Wilt Chamberlain, who was second on the list. It was also Steph's third 50-point game since turning 35, and 14th career game with 11 plus threes both NBA records as well Warriors also got the win to make it five straight Let's enjoy some chef curry And these new and improved words why Jimmy Butler has a done wonders over there helping uplift this franchise
Starting point is 00:17:27 Steph still out there cooking, doing his thing. Uh. 13. Another clutch game for the Dubs. Curry three. Booyah. We see it. He slices through the lane, lost the handle. Never a bad day to watch some Chef Curry highlights.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Three, go. I've seen the light. Steph's got 12-3. Steph. I just want to know when human instincts kick in and don't nobody else matter. Right? I just want to know at one point of the game, right, you'd be like, listen, I'd be damned if he touched this motherfucker. I'm gonna grab him, hold. He would've shot so many free throws. Hey, man, we gonna hold him.
Starting point is 00:18:01 We gonna grab him. We gonna bump him. Hey, we gonna, listen, man. It would have been a, he probably would have got to 50. It's going to hurt. Boy. Next morning. It's going to hurt the next morning. You got to bump him. It would have been a hack of courage. We got to bump him.
Starting point is 00:18:14 You know the ego, man. We, like a defender really believes he can stop him without the dirty stuff of it. No, you can't. You can't. I know you can't, but that's still, like, yeah. You see what they started doing to Mike, right? Uh-huh. Yeah. You had to do that. I know you can't but that's still like yeah, I think they started doing the mic right uh-huh You gotta do this up off the ground go to the line and make these to make him adjust he got some get stronger Oh, he's really really good without the ball man like that shit. Oh, yeah, that shit dog. I get it. It's fucking
Starting point is 00:18:38 But I'm gonna grab him hold him. I'm a trip. You got it man He's gonna be ugly. He's gotta get all-ups. He probably will get there. All-ups. I'm picking him up at half. He would've shot 35 free throws. Picking him up at half. All-ups.
Starting point is 00:18:51 And he's shooting all-ups. I'm staying close on this hit. Do you guys know what Steph Curry is also really good at? Honoring his commitment. Steph Curry's been on Gil's Arena presented by Nerd Dog. Woo Woo said he was coming. Woo! Showed up on the show.
Starting point is 00:19:01 But February 27th is now officially Steph Day. Curry's scored at least 45 points on this date three times, making him the third player in NBA history to do so on a single calendar day. That's according to ESPN Research. So let's take a look back at some of these February 27th highlights. Bam. Started back in 2013 when he dropped 54 seven dimes and three steals on the Knicks in Madison Square Garden. I was there.
Starting point is 00:19:24 You were there for that. That was his first 50-point game. Hey, I witnessed that with these two motherfuckers right here. Yeah, what day was that? Yeah, I was there maybe a month. Oh, wow. February 27, 2013. Came in the Garden, and yes.
Starting point is 00:19:39 So second game came in 2017 when Steph dropped 46 on the Thunder, including that go-ahead 37-footer with less than a second remaining in overtime to give the Warriors the win. Let's shift it back to this one. Following the 56-point outburst, the Warriors proceeded to trick off their next game
Starting point is 00:19:53 on the road against the Sixers without Jimmy Butler snapping their five-game winning streak. But they are still 7-2 in their last nine games. What? They lost to the NB-less Philadelphia Saints. That's going to hurt. Yeah, that's... What's the motion? Gonna hurt for him?
Starting point is 00:20:07 Who knows? What's the motion, man? I think 11. You made 11 threes in a game? 10 or 11. Oh, wow. I thought you for sure made more than that. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Mm-hmm. Overtime, one thing. Probably, I mean, eight maybe. I don't know. Look at the fit. Like I said, Warrior, 7 two of their last nine games. In his last ten games, Steph has averaged 31.6 assists, five rebounds with 49-41, 91 shooting splits. Like I said, Steph turns 37 this month.
Starting point is 00:20:36 How impressive has Steph Curry been at this stage of his career? it's not so it's the greatest basketball player we've seen so it's not surprising that shooting don't leave like that don't go nowhere
Starting point is 00:20:59 that's the last thing that goes so and it's the perfect era for Can't touch him you can shoot and he gets to run around freely so he's gonna be yeah, it's and for them to be Competing for a playoff spot they need him to play this way So it was good for him, but it's needed. It is very much needed for him to be playing this way. So, Cemetery Larry, I see you over there, arms crossed.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Ready to deliver. More impressive than the other guy. Who, Kevin Durant? And I'm gonna say this, the last 10 years has been the Steph Curry age. I don't know what y'all been talking about. This ain't nothing new, like you said. Excuse me, 2013 and...
Starting point is 00:21:52 Excuse me, in the garden. Come on, man. Championship after championship and I'm beating who? Excuse me, who am I beating? Who is the guy that can't beat me? Jason Tatum. Can't beat me. Yeah, Steph's number three.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Steph's number three all time. Greatest shooters? Player. Steph is the third greatest player of all time. Of all time? Yeah. Damn. He better than the other guy I don't know what other guy is you know dude first two dudes are somebody call EMS cuz this boy hey who saved the day in the Olympics?
Starting point is 00:22:47 Who saved the day in the Olympics? Who got him there, though? Who saved the day? I don't want to disrespect Steph like that. Because he's proving it. He's actually proving it. Because you're going to have to minimize it to shooting. No, you're not. Right?
Starting point is 00:23:00 So if you don't minimize the shooting, you have to say he's one of the GOATs. That's fair. You know what I'm saying? If you're not going to minimize it just to shooting. He is a GOAT. His accomplishments and style of play changed the game, influence. Like, everything that comes with the package of. I don't know if he officially changed the game.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Because scoring point guards came from, like, Gill in the matter. From half court. Kaitlyn Clark? Gill. What did Kaitlyn Clark do to the game? Because scoring point guards came from, like, Gill and the man. From half court. Kaitlyn Clark? What did Kaitlyn Clark do to the game? Tell me this. If Steph didn't do this to the game, what did Kaitlyn Clark do? Where'd she get it from? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:36 All right. Just, oh, man. All right. Where's she shooting from? She ain't shooting from there comfortably because she's seen it before Steph Curry. I don't know. I think Dane was doing it too though it's a good try at 37 this is impressive that's what I'm saying almost 37 Steph Curry's gonna hit imagine doing it four more years the guys are playing very very great at a later age in their career versus, you know, that's the difference between
Starting point is 00:24:07 the other generations is, you know, these guys are holding their greatness a lot longer. I mean, obviously because of medicine, you know, they're not doing, they're not drinking as much as previous generations, right? So you know, they're staying healthy. They got more, you know, medicine to their disposal. So, you know, at 37, I wanted to see, like, what was Reggie Miller doing at that age? What was Larry Bird doing at that age?
Starting point is 00:24:34 So the fact that... Larry Bird was chilling. You know... He was laying on his stomach on the sidewalk. You know, so just to see that... Father and children. He's 37 doing this still. I mean, that's really impressive.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yes. He's playing against a bunch of dummies, too. A bunch of not high IQ basketball players as well. And they use him, Bron, and KD, they use it to their advantage like they should. Right? I'm going to take it. Yeah, Chris Paul, I'm going to take advantage of they should. Mm-hmm. Right? Chris Paul? Yeah, Chris Paul.
Starting point is 00:25:07 I'm going to take advantage of you because I'm smarter than you. I've been doing this longer. And he uses their naiveness to be clever and still get his shots off the way he has. Because he's lost a step, probably. He's not as fast as he once was, not as quick as he once was. But it still looks that way because he's outsmarting you. He's making so. Yeah. And that's because the league went young too.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I ain't younger. Don't know too much. I think back then, there was a lot more veterans. And you doing that, somebody's going to hit you. Pride. Yeah. Pride, you're going to kick in. You're going to be picking up full court, talking trash.
Starting point is 00:25:46 What year is she talking about? 2016? Mm-hmm. 2017? I'm talking about once the leads start going young. What happened in 2016? Once the leads start going real young and the two-ways and all that start happening, I think it benefit them guys like Steph, LeBron, KD for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Yeah, I ain't saying like Steph, LeBron, KD for sure. Yeah, I ain't saying like Steph, like he still would've got it. He's, against us, against anybody, he still would've got that shit off. I ain't saying he wouldn't have. Like, from my 15 years, he would've got that shit off because what he does, he does it at a high rate, and he's great at it and put himself in the position to be successful, so. How many, 57? I mean, he's 37, right?
Starting point is 00:26:27 I'll be 37 on this one. Oh, so it's 36. 36. Because I was gonna ask how many 37-year-olds scored 50. Yeah. I was about to look at Wilt. Yeah, but... Or... Okay, let me see. Or it wouldn't be...
Starting point is 00:26:42 Kobe? Kobe? Scored 60 his last game. 38. Is Steph the last player that's still on the same team he was drafted on? Out of the last guard, out of the old guard. The what? They're still on the same team?
Starting point is 00:26:59 No. Him, Giannis. You want to? Outside of Giannis. Just Tatum, Brown. Tatum, Brown. Tatum, Brown, Giannis, Steph. Joker. Nikola.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Who? Well, he ain't been around that long. He's been in the league four years. Somebody 10 years. You would bring Cleet. Motherfucker been in the league three and a half years. Shut up. So, list of players with 50-point games.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Hold on. I got it right here, Joe. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 00:27:24 I got it. I got it. I got players with 50-point games. Hold on. I got it right here, Joe. Go ahead. 57 or more at that age. Not 57 or more. 50 or 37? 50 or 56? 50.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Just 50. Then LeBron, Jordan, Jamal Crawford, Kobe. Oh, yeah. Okay. Just 50. 50. Then LeBron, Jordan, Jamal Crawford, Kobe. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's a nice list. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I noticed LeBron was on there, too. That's crazy. Bashaw, you say top three, so who's one and two? According to this inventory, Larry. According to me? Yeah. Steph's three. Staff three. Call me Mike.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Okay. He didn't get a chance to do all that because he was hurt. You know, I think after he got hurt, seeing him in that locker room was, like, he looked miserable. Like, he was mad. Like, he wanted to get out there bad, but he couldn't. And he'll rush back, but you know, he's older. Shit don't move the same. It was sad seeing that. But for these guys, I think, man,
Starting point is 00:28:37 I ain't seen that in a minute. For real. Stephen Curry. Stephen Curry. LeBron James. MVP. 16 for 25 from the field is... Yeah, that thing... Yeah, that motherfucking automatic.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Feeling good. And the thing with the Warriors, they... They be... They keep giving it to them, though. Because they got Jimmy... They got Jimmy and Draymond out there at the same time. He has two dudes willing to give him the ball while he just run around. But it's like, even when I was playing,
Starting point is 00:29:08 even when Klay had it going, Steph would constantly feed him. If he close to a record, they would constantly feed him for them to break it. Like, the chemistry over there is amazing. I ain't going to lie. So we look at the Warriors now, like I said, 7-2 in their last nine games.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Currently 32-28 this season, good for the seventh spot in Adam Silver's Western Conference. Season ended today. They would be facing the number two seed, Los Angeles Lakers, in the postseason. Thankfully, season does not end today. Bless her, bless her. But what's the Warriors' ceiling with Steph playing like this?
Starting point is 00:29:42 Do they have the potential to make a deep playoff run? Him playing like that? Gonna burn out. Who's guarding him? Who's what? Who's guarding him? Nobody. The center mostly. You wearing, like, a polo bag? The center mostly.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I don't know. Yeah, Ben Caris, polo is bad. I mean, like, when you're on fire, you're on fire. Yeah, for real. You know, I don't think. Yeah, Ben Caris, Paolo is back. I mean, like, when you're on fire, you're on fire. Yeah, for real. You know, I don't think it can sustain. Like, if he has to do this output, I mean, you're talking about playoff series. Jimmy Butler only had five points in the game, too. I'll just throw that out. Twelve, twelve.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I mean, you're talking about four, four, four just to get the championship. You got to win 12 games. Was the expectation for Jimmy to balance the scoring for Steph not to have as much output? Was that the expectation? Yeah, but I mean how many how many shots did Jimmy take? I mean the motherfucker got to go like this. Yeah, he didn't have to. You ain't even shooting no more.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Seven shots, he was one for seven in the game. How many is he shooting per game anyway? Like it's not like he's coming in like I'm gonna be a high input guy. So it's like how does Steph not get the output like that in order for them to win? Like they have to have him play like that to win. He has to average for them. So not like that. Not 56, but like, you know what I mean? He's been playing lately.
Starting point is 00:30:53 He's been playing. Give me an average of 11.3 shots per game in his time with the Warriors. So what is Steph averaging on the season? For the season, I think it's about 24, but let me double check. See, in order for them to have a shot, they got to You gotta get 27. It gotta be 27, 28, 29. 24, 6, and 5. That ain't gonna be good enough. 100%.
Starting point is 00:31:09 To beat nobody. Jimmy has to pick up the production. Jimmy gonna have to score the same amount. Yep. But... In order for them to do what you just asked, Jimmy gonna have to match his production at 24. Or Steph gonna have to average 27.
Starting point is 00:31:26 And do we think playoff Jimmy can do that? Jimmy can do that somebody out the game i'm talking about right now he got it they got he got to get that 24 game oh he got to get to that level right now i'm talking about right now in order for them to stay where they at and to keep energy and to energy because it's learned behavior man you just can't we need 24 at night though 20 both of them they didn't need it when he was playing on my jimmy averages 16, 6, and 6. But he was the only guy, and it was on the east. 16, 6, and 6 in his eight games. That ain't good enough.
Starting point is 00:31:49 That ain't good enough. You need more. You need way more over here. That's not good enough. You know that. You got DeMar Levine and all them guys. They down in the bottom. They play OKC.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It's a good match. You don't think so? Yeah. They play OKC. You put Jimmy on. So what's the matter? Shea ain't going to take a stop. It's a good matchup. He'll make it. It's a good matchup. It's a good matchup You don't think so? Yeah. They play okay. See, you put Jimmy on. So what's the matter? It's a good matchup. It's a good matchup.
Starting point is 00:32:08 But it ain't enough. He was averaging 18-5 with the Warriors. Jimmy not giving you 24. The 43 games he played with the Colts. Yeah, so he's going to have to step up. Can't give you 13. Yeah. Jimmy ain't going to give you 13.
Starting point is 00:32:17 What did Jimmy average since he's been there? 16. 16-6. Yeah, we just said. That 5 took it down. That 5 took it down. He's still figuring out his fit. I mean, look, you know. The Yeah, we just said that five took it down. That five took it down. He's still figuring out his fit. I mean, look, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:30 The first five games, they didn't figure out that extension. They didn't figure that out, did they? Yeah. I ain't trying to figure shit out. When you figure out this, the bug has got to hit. I thought he had like 20 the first five games or something like that. Yeah, but he only averaged 16, Nick. Because that five-point game, come on, man. That's a couple five. One five-point game ain't going to do that. And something like that. But he only averaging 16, Nick. Because that five-point game. Come on, man. That's a couple five.
Starting point is 00:32:45 One five-point game ain't going to do that. And you know that. And you know it only moves. If you got 20, it only moves. And you have five. One five-point game ain't going to make you drop. Yeah, he's got a five-point and a six-point game in his time with the Warriors. That's it.
Starting point is 00:32:57 What's the other ones, though? So we'll go top to bottom. 25 against the Bulls. 21, 20, 19, 18, 17-6-5. Yeah, them last two games. I said one game ain't going to do it. I'm going to put two, yeah. Two?
Starting point is 00:33:09 You can put another one on that. You're mad. Hold on, y'all. You're going to have to come out and score 30. For sure, to get back. Right. To make us look at you. Start seeing that point.
Starting point is 00:33:19 You're like, hold on. That's a big drop right there. That's a big drop. Consecutive? Oh, shit. Six-five? Six-five? Oh, shit. Six, five. Six, five. Two?
Starting point is 00:33:27 I need 25, 30. Come on, man. Two, three games straight. You can't give me 10. You can't give me 10. You can't give me 10, bro. You give me all your head. It's gone.
Starting point is 00:33:34 That's what I'm saying. It ain't going to stay where it's at. You can't get no fives. You got to at least get double digits. You got to at least get double digits. Five. Bro, I just gave you extended money. Bro, no fives ever.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I've been very capable, whether he does it or not. That's taking a whole body. He's very capable of doing that, but isn't going to go out and sell himself. Two buckets a quarter. The way they need in order to make it. Get the double digits for it. It will go all the way down.
Starting point is 00:33:59 You jamming, you get to the line. So, G, you agree they need to match in order for them to be? He has to average at least 20 something. Yeah, for them to actually compete. So, you agree they need to match in order for them to... No, he has to average at least 20-something. Yeah, for them to... To actually compete. Compete, right?
Starting point is 00:34:10 So, we asked the chat, does Steph deserve a spot in the GOAT Convo? 57% of the chat says yes. And we also asked the chat, what is the Warriors
Starting point is 00:34:19 ceiling this season? 35% think they can win a playoff series. 30% think they can make a deep playoff run. 22% said first round exit. And 13% said win a championship. Playing or regular is not different. There's only, technically, there's only a few people in the debate.
Starting point is 00:34:39 Like, you got to understand what a debate is. If there's a number one, whoever number two is, unless he's an active player, he's not part of the debate. Okay. Because he has nothing else to gain. So if he didn't overtake the person, then he's actually out of the conversation.
Starting point is 00:34:59 So there's only three people that's actually still in the running for a debate. It'd be LeBron. It'd be Steph. It'd be KD. It'd be Giannis. It'd be Jokic. They're active.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Right? So because they're active, they're actually still chasing something. Once you're retired, if you didn't do what you were supposed to do, you can't be part of a debate no more. Because there's nothing you can do to actually surpass the person. Right? So if I did my time in, let's say, one minute, right, and you did it at one-on-one, we're not competing anymore. It's just whoever's still running the race. That's actually how it's supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:35:42 They have a chance to catch up. They still have a chance. Yeah, they still got a chance to catch up. So, like, in theory, that actually how it's supposed to be. They have a chance to catch. They still have a chance. Yeah, they still got a chance to catch. So like, in theory, that's how it's supposed to work. So I saw something the other day, somebody posted about like just the accolades Michael Jordan accomplished. And they talk about the injury season that he played. It was this and that. And I actually only played like 11 full seasons with the Bulls. So, just look at the numbers in those seasons. Like, I was like, yo, man.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Like, this man was out here. During your favorite era of the 80s? Destroying. Ten scoring titles. Destroying them big man. See what I'm saying? If you take away the 15 years, if you take away the two wizard years,
Starting point is 00:36:23 like, take away the year he came back halfway through the season. You take back the hurt year. He had the league in scoring. For sure. In 10 years. The other year was 28, and he was a rookie. So, Sammy Taylor, I see you being the champion. If you really think about it, that shit at the end don't really.
Starting point is 00:36:43 The beginning, that... Listen, dawg. What's the Mount Rushmore? Of who? Mount Rushmore is the top four of ever. Top four? The goats. The top four?
Starting point is 00:36:54 The top four. Mount Rushmore is just top four. So they got four people on it, right? The top four goats? Well, I'm just saying, so Mount Rushmore is four people on the thing, right? Four heads on the mountain, right? But they have four of me, though. So four of me, it's just four, just.
Starting point is 00:37:11 You can debate who's the goats out of them four? No, just who deserves, like, if we was building the motherfuckers, the stat, the thing, the mountain. Or statues. What are you putting up there? You got people out there with the harness on. They're over the chills with the motherfucker, right? These are the greatest, the greatest,
Starting point is 00:37:27 four players to ever play the game. Who are we putting on there? These are the forefathers of the game for whoever's picking. This has always been the game. But they just, when you don't want to pick one person to be a goat, you have to pick
Starting point is 00:37:43 somebody to be a part of the four. Well, if we're doing it that way then, but if we're doing it that way then, Wilt Chamberlain's head is definitely going on there. And Bill Russell's head is that of forefathers. I have a question. Have we ever considered- Bob Cousy? Carl Malone as one of the GOATs? Probably when he was playing, he was probably considered.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I'm not saying that. I'm saying after. Have we ever considered him top three? Power forwards? Yes. No. Just all time? No. I don't know. No. Was it? Not in my conversation that I've ever had. I'm talking about in our conversations. No. In our conversations. Widely considered the greatest power forward
Starting point is 00:38:19 before. No. Was he ever considered the greatest part of the GOAT debate? GOAT level has not been in those discussions. Amongst us, though. No. Amongst us. People who play. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:30 What about Kareem? Yes. Where would he lay inside of our conversations? You don't want to put him there, but in the back of your mind, you put him there. Put him where? In what exactly? In your GOAT. In your GOAT conversation.
Starting point is 00:38:44 No, I don't have him. In your top four. He's retired. So he can't. So he's not In your GOAT. In your GOAT conversation. Top four. He's retired. So he's not in your top four. In GOAT debate or top four? Karl Malone and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Top four. Are they in your top four? Top four ever?
Starting point is 00:38:55 Kareem, you can put them in there, yeah. Top four ever. Kareem is top four ever. Yes. Kareem. Top four, yeah. Very well. Karl Malone, but Kareem.
Starting point is 00:39:03 No Karl Malone for me. All right. Karl Malone was number two all time. That doesn't matter. That's in just one category. In points, right? It doesn't matter. For X amount, right? It don't matter.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Kareem as well. X amount, right? Used to be number one. Previous title holder before LeBron is number one now. Yeah. I understand. Jordan was number three, right, for a long, long, long time. Couldn't catch Carl.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Everybody looked at this metric of the scoring leader being the metric. No, that was never. Perceivably. That wasn't a metric. Perceivably. For who? No, that's for who. For all Tom's points.
Starting point is 00:39:40 But who put that metric in? When Jordan was chasing it and then when Kobe was chasing it. Mike was considered. He was considered a GOAT. Regardless of what you're saying. No, he had 18,000 points. He was considered a GOAT at 18,000 points. I let y'all cook.
Starting point is 00:39:54 I did let y'all cook. I just said and I listened. And then when I want to talk. When he had 18,000 points, he was crowned a GOAT. So just understand, at 18,000 points, he was crowned a GOAT. He just understand, at 18 points, he was crowned the GOAT. He won one championship going on to his two. He was the GOAT with those stats. So the point in-
Starting point is 00:40:12 So he was crowned the GOAT from the start before 18. Michael Jordan with the six championship, Kareem with six championships, right? I'm listening. Right. Kareem all-time leading scorer, Jordan third. Jordan's the GOAT somehow. How? Kareem got more All-Stars. Kareem got more All-NBAs. Kareem got a lot more everything when it comes down to the whole conversation,
Starting point is 00:40:36 statistically, accomplishment-wise, and championships. But we don't make that comparison. You just asked me what the team's in the line. I told you. But we don't make that comparison at all, asked me to leave some time. I told you. But we don't make that comparison at all, right? And then you look at Karl Malone. You look at Karl Malone to be the guy that was second in points or to not even be considered the top power forward all time. He didn't win.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Or not even the top five all time. He didn't win. But then we got one guy surpasses everybody, and he's supposed to be just the best of all time. He has less championships than all of the other guys. Who? Kareem and Jordan. Yeah, so my type.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Kareem. And Kobe. Kareem was number one. So how does you jump if it's just because of points? It wasn't because of points. What was it because of? Domination. Domination?
Starting point is 00:41:24 Yes, Kareem was dominant. Yes. What is there? No So cream was number one Kareem was number one the whole he was number one. I thought there wasn't no and then he served and then Jordan's And then Jordan said there was nobody knew and then Jordan just happened to I thought you said there was nobody new, and then Jordan just happened to become asked. No, no. Kareem, anybody ever ask? So Kareem was the most dominant player,
Starting point is 00:41:51 singular player, after Wilt. So Wilt was number one. Well, technically, he had Bill Russell as number one. But still, that was because team success, right? I mean, you can go on. Bill Russell was in the conversation because of team success, right? I mean, you can go on. Bill Russell was in the conversation because of team success. Right?
Starting point is 00:42:07 If they looked at the rings he had, he was in the conversation because of team success. What about Magic? Individual domination, you have to go with Wilt Chamberlain. All right? Then comes Kareem. What does individual domination entail? Entail that to me statistically or something. He had 38,000 points.
Starting point is 00:42:28 You take Wilt. 50 points per game versus Wilt. Wilt first. Wilt didn't have 38,000. But he was the most dominant basketball player. That's what I'm saying. What is the metric for that? What's the metric for the most dominant?
Starting point is 00:42:39 What's that metric? Your individual accolades. What you mean? That wouldn't make Wilt the most. It would make Kareem the most. I've been... Kareem first. Wilt first.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Wilt is first. Then Kareem surpassed him. Wilt was in the NBA before Kareem. Yes or no? A long time before. Right? Okay, go ahead. I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yes or no? You're saying he's the most dominant before Kareem? Wilt was there first. So Wilt was in front. Well, 100 points. But just totally. Season average. That's shit like that.
Starting point is 00:43:08 So after Kareem got there, Kareem is now the most dominant ever. Correct? Kareem. Correct? When he ends his career in 88? Right. And he's the most dominant ever. Why?
Starting point is 00:43:22 Because he's production. Production, points, championships, all MVAs, everything. He's the greatest of all time. That year, when did Decap retire? 1989.
Starting point is 00:43:37 1989. So we don't have to keep going, but we're going to put everything that we're talking about, everybody that comes, we're going to put in the fucking ball. Championships, MVPs, defensive players, everything is in what we're talking about. Signature move. No, fuck signature. We ain't talking about no fucking signature move. Think all individual accolades first.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Right. And then your championship is the charity. You put it in there with it. Put it in there with it, right? Okay. The real answer is this. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is the greatest of all time. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Okay, that's... Hold on. You asked me... Yes. Technically, I've said that a hundred times. I said the person who actually got screwed, whenever y'all talk about GOAT debates, y'all used rings as a measuring stick
Starting point is 00:44:21 to hold everybody back. Like, nah, he got six. When he got the crown over Kareem, he didn't have none of those. He only had one ring, a few MVPs, and they took the crown. They took a crown and said, you are the greatest ever. While Kareem had this accolade of what's-her-name. So now people complain and talk about, you can't beat a GOAT unless you have three MVPs.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Like, wait a minute. The person who has it, he didn't even have it when he got the crown. He only had one MVP at the time. He only had 18,000 points. He only had one finals MVP when he was named a GOAT. So to open up the conversation, it has to start
Starting point is 00:45:11 when he got it. You can't just wait until he finishes his career and then say, you can't be in this GOAT debate unless you have four finals, four MVPs, four championships. No, because he didn't have it when he got it. Do impact count?
Starting point is 00:45:27 No, you can't measure impact. Like shoes and all that? Cultural relevance? Cultural relevance, yeah. It's your accolade. Like, you can't, that's cheating. It's a pair. How?
Starting point is 00:45:37 They sold fucking Kareem. They sold Kareem. They sold Magic. I hear you, yes. Your body of work on the floor. I hear you, yes, but we're just talking about on the floor. I hear you Yes, but we just talk about on the floor. It's the floor. We talk about between a 94 50 That may Points You got to go to A90. All right. Thank you. Hold on. I got it. I got it. All that flying shit was pooping and everything.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I got it right here. I got it right here. Hold on. If we don't listen to the masses. What do you have for that? Cemetery Larry. I got you. I'm going to let you.
Starting point is 00:46:13 If we don't listen to the masses and we have a real basketball, honest, about the history of the game, no bias, no bullshit. People don't like to put cream in it it cuz they in the back of their mind but if we really do it it's only a like you he has to be he's in like that into the whole what it is he was too he was one day in my it was like it might be a big man like axy position though what I'm saying is they it was Kareem. They gave it they gave Mike the crown Prematurely because his career ended and then it makes sense now, but when he got it so he got it too early Compared to his stats in Kareem stats, mr. Simmer, but if you go and look at the accolades, yes It's cuz it's a prettier go ahead ahead, Sean, what you got for us?
Starting point is 00:47:05 His accolades, though. He has 10 fucking scoring titles. It don't matter. It still don't pass Kareem. It do. Oh my God. Now let's try it like this. What is the most important award in the NBA?
Starting point is 00:47:18 When we're talking about you as a player, MVP, correct? MVP is the Don Dada. Okay, that's one. How many points you want to put on that? Want to put 10? We're going to say that's 10. Now, what's the opposite of that? Defensive player of the year. That's on the defensive side, that's
Starting point is 00:47:35 the MVP. We can give that nine, right? Scoring title. Eight. And then you go like that and then you count it up and then see how many points people account for. Mr. Simmer-Taylor, you have the phone like that and then you count it up and then see how many points people at a account for Mr. Simmer Taylor you have the phone out. What would you like to offer to this discussion? Okay All right
Starting point is 00:47:56 You sure you sure yeah six championships apiece Kareem six MVPs Jordan five scoring titles two Jordan ten Kareem 38,000 Jordan 32 that's not it just
Starting point is 00:48:16 accolades scoring average Kareem 24,6 Jordan 30 that's not an accolade NBA all-star selections 19 Jordan 14. NBA All-NBA Team selections, Kareem 15, Jordan 11.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Kareem played longer, though. Defensive recognition, Kareem 11. All defensive, Jordan 14. Finals MVP, Kareem 2, Jordan 6. Longevity 20 years, Jordan 15. Conclusion. If we're to focus purely on longevity, total career stats, consistent dominance, Kareem may have the slight edge because of his sustained excellence over two decades
Starting point is 00:49:05 and his ability to excel in both scoring and defense. Both players are legends, and the answers ultimately depend on your aspect of basketball greatness you value more. Longevity, statistical dominance, or peak performance and final success for Jordan. If we prioritize peak performance and offensive dominance and ability to deliver championships and finals, Jordan might be considered a greater player, given his 6-0 record in the finals and 10 scoring titles. OK, that has no accolade about what your record is. It's just, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:46 MVP is that's first. What does he have? So, MVP's, what does Mike have? Five, Kareem has six, okay. Defensive player of the year, how many does Kareem have? Man, what are you saying? How many Kareem, he that has none? Jordan has one, okay. Third with scoring titles, Kareem has two, Jordan has one. Okay. Third was scoring titles. Kareem has two. Jordan has ten.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Okay, so how many of the two and three surpass that one MVP has? Our next first team All-NBA. Kareem has seven. Jordan has ten. Right? That's the fourth category. Fifth category. All-NBA is he at? He's used to use the total. First team is next.
Starting point is 00:50:24 He's giving you by team. I'm giving your first team. Trying to wiggle out of this. Fifth category. How many All-NBAs he had? Yeah. He used a total. First team is next. He used a total. He's giving you by team. I'm giving first. I'm giving you first team. Trying to wiggle out of this. Don't All-NBA count though? Like it don't have to be.
Starting point is 00:50:32 But first team is your top five. So first team is the next category. The next category, fifth, is first team All-Defense. But how many All do they have together though? Like 17, 13? Green. Do you count that? There's a list. There's an actual list on how they do this.
Starting point is 00:50:50 It's not just random, and it's not all of it together. So if you have 10 first teams, right, and you have 10 all-NBAs, I have 10 third teams, all-NBA. We're not on the same level. We're not even in the same building. That's called moving the goalpost. You are in a building by yourself with your team.
Starting point is 00:51:12 How many does Gordon got all together, though? That's what I'm saying. What? Gordon Thomas. All NBAs, he has 11. So 10 of them was first team, right? So that's the next category. Then first team defense. That's the next category. And Green has seven of them was first team. Mm-hmm, right so So that's the next category then first team defense that screen has seven of them seven first team, but he got 14 overall Yes, seven first. Some of those is gonna be second. He said Korea what?
Starting point is 00:51:37 First team how many first team first team what all NBA's Kareem had 15 first team 10 first team Gordon 10 first team All NBAs. Kareem had 15. First team. 10 first team. Gordon, 10 first team. I think he won that one. And then he had five second team. Kareem had five second team. Jordan had one second team.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Let's put a pin in this right now because our next topic is going to deal with a little bit of this as well. First team, all defense. Five first teams and six second teams. And how many Jordan? How many Jordan? Five second teams. Where's that again? Jordan-defense? Five first-teams and six second-teams. And how many Jordan? How many Jordan? Five second-teams. Where's that again? Jordan had what? Nine first-teams, five second-teams.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And then category six will be all-star MVP? No, there ain't no category at all. That is a category. No, it's not. Not on your little computer, but in their voting. It's an individual award. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Not in the chat GPT'm sorry. Chat GPT.
Starting point is 00:52:25 So we're going to count All-Star MVP over the point? Not a little broke-ass little computer. All-Star MVP. You're a broke-ass nigga. Then it goes. Get your fucking money up, nigga. Get a calculator like mine. Think about what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:52:40 All-Star MVP is a single. Fuck. Underdog. I need to get my money up. So All-Star MVP is a singular award amongst the greats. Yeah, you can play it on the wall. No, amongst the top. So that's in front of actual making the All-Star.
Starting point is 00:52:53 So it goes All-Star MVP, and then it goes second team All-NBA. Right? Because that's top 10. Remember, the NBA All-Star game is top 24. So top 10 is in front of All-Star. Then you got Finals MVP. Final MVP is ranked higher than the championship. So you said All-Star is over second team, all second team?
Starting point is 00:53:18 No, second team is before All-Star. Oh, I was about to say. Well, let's keep this thing. Before All-NBA. Let's keep this thing. There's a ranking. It's a ranking. So the points don't count if I get all the points all the points count at some point
Starting point is 00:53:36 30,000 38,000 30 off of the accolades you get and then everything else trickle in So so there's a points there you get a you get a certain amount of points on let's say runner-up to MVP No know what I mean? You got to get points for everything, and that's what people don't understand. So what would you say with LeBron, since he got the scoring record? Would that help? That's later. Those are not...
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Starting point is 00:55:24 Your kneecaps would be smiling fresh. Alright, well let's shift things over. Lakers were dominant in February going 8-0 against teams above 500 with the addition of new face of the franchise Luka Doncic and 40-year-old LeBron James playing at an all-NBA level on both sides of the ball. LeBron regarded
Starting point is 00:55:39 by many as the face of the league and has been so for over a decade. So after the Lakers beat the Wolves Thursday night, LeBron was asked about Anthony Edwards' comments saying he didn't want to be the face of the league and has been so for over a decade. So after the Lakers beat the Wolves Thursday night, LeBron was asked about Anthony Edwards' comments saying he didn't want to be the face of the league and had this to say. Why do you want to be the face of the league when all the people that, you know, that cover our game and talk about our game on a day-to-day basis don't everybody? You have that responsibility. It's just weird. It's weird energy from the people that, you know, I don't know. But Channing, he said it perfectly. He couldn't have said it no better.
Starting point is 00:56:12 But Ant said he don't want it. I mean, obviously, I didn't ask for it. But I knew it was a responsibility for me, not only to my family, my friends, my community, and whoever that was going to follow my journey throughout my career. Not only in Ohio when I started there, but all over America and all over the world when I traveled all over the world. So I've always taken that seriously and understood from the beginning what being a professional was all about and being a role model was all about. So I try to hold that with the utmost respect and honor. But I feel it. I understand. I completely understand.
Starting point is 00:56:57 This is weird energy when it comes to that. So LeBron also took to Twitter to discuss the matter in a series of tweets Friday afternoon before the Lakers took on the Clippers in the second night of a back-to-back. Here's what he said in those tweets. He said, exactly made my point, but anyways, happy this convo has started. It ain't about the face of the game and it ain't about one person or one show. It's about the culture of basketball, the most beautiful game in the world. Our game has never been better.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Incredible young stars from all over the world and some older ones. Steph Curry should be all we are talking about today. Let's discuss how great OKC and the Cavs have been this season with two completely different styles and break down why and how they have. Of course, if players don't perform, we need to discuss that too and break that down. Even that can be discussed in a way that's not to bring finality to that player's game, but to leave room to see how that player responds and let's watch the journey of that player. This ain't about me either. At this point, I don't really care what's said about me. It's always something.
Starting point is 00:57:51 This is about the impact the negativity is having on our beautiful game and our fans. I know I speak for a lot of players, and more importantly, a hell of a lot of great fans that truly love and celebrate this sport around the world. Hashtag mind the game. After the Lakers beat the Clippers Friday with LeBron extending his active streak of most consecutive 25-point games
Starting point is 00:58:08 by a player 40 years or older to six, LeBron pulled up to SportsCenter with Scott Van Pelt, had this response when asked what matters to him about the game. What matters to me when it comes to my generation and the younger generation that's in our league now is that we play it for the love of the game. We're not out here cheating the game. We're putting the grind in. We're putting the time in.
Starting point is 00:58:31 We've always gave up and gave props to the generation that came before us. Always, always bigged them up because we know without them, it would not have been us. We're just trying to carry on tradition. My generation, me, Steph, Katie, Russ, James, Kawhi, the rest of our been us and we're just trying to carry on tradition you know uh my generation me steph katie russ uh
Starting point is 00:58:45 you know james kawai you know the rest of our our crew and then we got the younger generation that's doing their thing as well so you know we love what we do um and and it's a responsibility for all of us to continue to press the game push the game in a positive factor for all our fans all over america and all over the world because it's the best most beautiful game in the world you know when you watch basketball you're basically listening to music. You listen to jazz music, R&B music, rap music, hard, heavy metal music, everything essential with that. So, you know, it's a beautiful game.
Starting point is 00:59:14 We're all in a position to play this game and we're here for a reason, but, you know, we don't never take it for granted. So I hope everybody sees that when we hit the floor. Shout out to Scott Van Pelt, one of my favorite anchors. LeBron spitting or tripping with his comments on the face of the league and role media has in tearing down the game? Spitting. Why do you feel like he's spitting, Kenya?
Starting point is 00:59:35 Because negativity sells. It's what people want to tune into. They don't want a bunch of success stories. That's just what it is, unfortunately. Certain guys have made names off the backs of being negative about him in particular. So I get it. There's a lot of unwarranted expectations when you are that. You're not allowed to be human.
Starting point is 01:00:18 You're not allowed to make mistakes. People expect perfection when you are deemed this face. So you is six and one half dozen other, in my opinion. Like you wouldn't, to be that means you're doing what you're here to do. Right? He's in the position to be that. And... to have your privacy, to have your life not being in a microscope would be a blessing as well. But...
Starting point is 01:01:00 I mean, you did something really, really good when you are the face of this this NBA so You got to look at it with that and I think he's done that to his point. He was making So yeah, no it but now I get him in for someone not to own it and this day and age of media Shit, I get it social media media at that, I totally understand where Anthony L was coming from. So good, you touched on it a little bit last week
Starting point is 01:01:30 when you made an appearance on The Others. I got no opinion. No opinion? Man. On you. On me? Hm? I don't want y'all to talk to me.
Starting point is 01:01:42 I don't wanna be the face of the league. Don't talk about me. Don't talk about me. I be the face of the league. Don't talk about me. Don't talk about me. I'm the face of the league. What type of shit is this, man? Look, please don't talk. I don't want to be the face of the league if you're going to talk about me.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Like, this is soft, man. It's the reason you're the face of the league. Shit. You got to take everything, the good, the bad, everything. Like, it's the reason why you the face of the league. Fuck. Mr. Cemetery Larry, you have your hand raised. As you know, you can jump in at any point here on Gills Arena. We open to all discussion and debate.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Opinions from all... Somebody has a tattoo on their back that says, -"The Chosen One." -"The Chosen One." Very nice tattoo. Fuck. Looks particularly painful. Somebody's wearing the number 23. Has also worn six at times in their career.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Someone said they were trying to make the other number 23 disappear. Ain't that supposed to be pressure to come with that? If we deem that thing to be the greatest thing we've ever seen, don't there deserve to be some type of protection for that? Shouldn't there be security for that? Right? Is that somebody coming for that? We need to protect that as hard as, more as we can, right?
Starting point is 01:02:59 So the people who look at it, be like, ah, you got to do more than that. Say that again? You got to do more than that. Say that again? You got to do more than that. I was going to ask him. No, you said. You got to do more than that. No, I'm just saying, you're protecting.
Starting point is 01:03:11 What is you're protecting? I mean, it's a lot because the Mind the Game podcast did everything that he's saying he want us to do. A great podcast. He want us to ask questions. He want us to be media the way he want us to be media. No, I'm just saying, you said... Right. If somebody's trying to go for that, you have to protect it.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Huh? He said the same thing. He said we should be doing these things. We should be analyzing the game like this and like that and like this and... No, but more... And like this and like that and... He's saying the same thing KD was saying. I was saying KD said...
Starting point is 01:03:44 He said the same thing KD said I said Katie said he said the same thing Katie said he just put it in the way with the media Katie was talking about the fans okay so let's talk about the media let's talk about who talks good about him right it doesn't Nick Wright Kendrick Perkins hmm Tom Haberstraugh Shannon sharp Richard Shannon Fry, Gilly the Kid, Chris Bouchard, Colin Coward. A lot of people that talk good.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Talk good about him. Too sorry, Johnson. Merely a host, can you not... There's a lot of guys that talk good about him. That are in national media. Now. National media. That's now. Right? So what other influence outside of national media could be getting like really under your skin to the point where you're saying fans are saying fans, you can't blame it on the
Starting point is 01:04:35 fans when the players have a perspective too. But do you have the list of people that talk negatively about him? Yes, I'll go ask. In the national media? Do you have one? In the national media? Do you have one? In the national media? Just period. Can you name him?
Starting point is 01:04:49 You're going to think he's going to challenge that? Skip Bayless. Skip Bayless. So when you say talk positive about LeBron, right? It's what comes with the territory. So you say they speak positive about him, right? Oh, yeah. So they speak positive about him, right? Oh, yeah. So they speak positive about him, right?
Starting point is 01:05:06 Yeah, we got videos. I don't need videos. So what? So they never have said any, they never critiqued his play. They never have said anything other than. Once a glazer, always a glazer. So. Does he not play the game of basketball very well? Yes he is.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Very good basketball player. In the face of the league. I'm not, I'm just asking about that part of it. So, and if people choose to take a different approach than you do, doesn't make it wrong. It doesn't make my approach wrong either. I'm not saying that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Right? I didn't say that. I said a different approach than you do. I'm not saying that. Okay. Right? I didn't say that. I said a different approach than you do. Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. Not saying they're right, not saying you're right, not saying you're wrong, not saying they're wrong.
Starting point is 01:06:12 They just take a different approach to the way that they want to speak about the guy. Mm-hmm. About the job that he's doing and has done. Are they getting paid to do that? Yeah. Okay. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Are they getting paid to sway their perspective? No. Oh, okay. They're giving they getting paid to sway their perspective? No. Oh, okay. This is how they feel about the person. Whenever people feel like the truth resonates with them, with the opposition saying something opposite and it resonates with them more than the other side, there has to always be an opposition
Starting point is 01:06:37 because it ain't always going to feel right seeing something done like this. Okay, cool. It don't feel right. Is there an alternative to pick? Oh, I got an alternative to pick? Man, this feels a, don't feel right. Oh, there is there an alternative to pick So I'm oh, I got all turned to pick man. This feels a little bit different Yeah, this feels a little bit like home to me. I like how it feels over here. That's fine But then it's like nah, nah, nah, you're not allowed to be over there. You're entitled to that
Starting point is 01:07:03 But you entitled to that. It don't sound like it. Because if it's the same thing... It sounds like I'm hating. No, but however somebody want to classify... It can't be classified. My truth is my truth. It can't be classified as nothing else. I was about to say that, right?
Starting point is 01:07:19 It doesn't matter what somebody else classifies it as, right? It's the way you feel about this said person or this said situation or this said team or this said whatever it is, right? This is how you feel. You're entitled to that, right? Everybody is. And everybody's entitled to the way they feel
Starting point is 01:07:40 about anything, man, whether it's good or bad. What do we get paid to do? But the problem is nowadays, everybody has access. Everybody has something to fucking say, right? Before, everybody had something to say in the barbershop, right? You can only reach certain people. I feel like since he's been critiqued for the longest, people have been talking crazy about it from the start.
Starting point is 01:08:11 I think he should have, like, said something positive towards Anthony Edwards, like, keep going. Because it's a challenge. It's going to be a challenge. We want the truth. We want him to be authentic, right? It's going to be a challenge. We want the truth. Accept the challenge, young fellas. We want them to be authentic, right?
Starting point is 01:08:27 It's going to be bad shit. But we want them to be authentic, right? What did the Jordan commercial say? The Jordan commercial said, man, what's the Jordan commercial say? It's my fault. Maybe it's my fault. It has? Maybe it's my fault.
Starting point is 01:08:40 It has? Who are you on the phone with? Yeah, my accountant. The check. The check clear? Oh, clutch check. Clutch check. It has? Who are you on the phone with? Yeah, my accountant. The check. The check clear? Oh, clutch check. Clutch check. It clear?
Starting point is 01:08:48 The guilt check. Okay. Guilt, clutch check, and it's officially clear. Okay. I wasn't going to talk about him until my check got damn cleared and it's cleared from the accountant.
Starting point is 01:08:56 Okay. Yeah, so you said exactly the problem. You said it. You said if there's a statue up there, which is Michael Jordan, and someone, 23, and he says he wants to go get it, you said exactly the problem. Everyone decides to guard it. Now, let's try it like this. If you scored, if you took 100 hundred shots made all 100 and in Kenyon
Starting point is 01:09:26 second right you're perfect Kenya second Kenyon starts off 60 60 straight right then he misses one this becomes a problem all users sorry motherfucker you can't be the goal you bitch ass nigga that's why you missed one you didn't go 100 for 100, you 60 for one. 61. But then you miss another. Oh, he missed back to back. The God never missed back to back.
Starting point is 01:09:52 He's not. You finished with 98. Look what they did to second place. Why? Second place, 98%. This is how they treated it. If Michael Jordan is the GOAT and someone's coming behind trying to get it, the problem is you're breaking it down in real time. You're scarring, you're slashing this person.
Starting point is 01:10:18 So LeBron spent 22 years being whipped Trying to chase this. Yeah, right So when Anthony Edwards is saying I don't want to be the face the perfect guy to give him give him advice is who? The person who actually went for it and he told him not to do and he's like, yeah, brother You don't want this problem. Live your life So if we so we go back to 300, right? You remember the movie 300? A great movie that's been circulating on TV lately. Live your life. The movie 300, he sent his kid out to the wilderness.
Starting point is 01:10:52 No, it's not taken. Right? He said, you got to go bring the wolf back. To be considered the goat. LeBron is the goat. He's the goat. You're not being considered. Can I ask you something?
Starting point is 01:11:00 Can you name- All of them. Kobe took it too. Rashad, can you name your top 10? Ever. Nah, man? Nah, man. Nah, man. My hair hurt. No, no, no. I want him to name his top ten.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Just name your top ten. I don't know. I don't know. Can you go from four? We know right now Kobe, Jordan, Steph. Kobe's number one for him. Jordan, then
Starting point is 01:11:28 Steph. Now, can we go after that? He got LeBron in there. Is LeBron in your top ten? He was, shit. But do you think if LeBron... I just want him to answer. He ain't gonna answer. Is LeBron in your top ten? Because obviously, if you made a point to put Steph Curry at three
Starting point is 01:11:49 Most likely you had LeBron at three right so that means LeBron now is four All right, we're not going into the bag. I just want to know I mean like it's how he's not going stand on points But you can't just come out with a clear answer All right, do you think there'll be any debate if LeBron would've won, what, six or seven championships? That's hypothetical. Hypothetical. I don't think it would be noticeable.
Starting point is 01:12:13 It doesn't matter. You've whipped him. You think it's a good look to give a young kid advice by saying, run away from the challenge? No, he can go play basketball. He didn't say run away. He said, I understand why he would feel that way. No, he's gonna play bad. It is a runaway said I understand why I feel that way Same thing he did when he went to Miami. There's no there's no anyone go in with him
Starting point is 01:12:30 What he's saying is he's saying listen, there's this entity up here. That's untouchable in Anybody who tries to touch it this because I came up short don't mean you will at 98 I'm gonna be 99 but you can't be 100 I don't need to be 100 I'm not 98 and yeah I'm one more than you so don't tell me not to go for it because you don't want nobody to be 99 it's a slot right there wide open go get 99 because he's stuck at 98 he can't get there somebody can get to 99 don't let him tell you He can't get there. Somebody can get to 99. Don't let them tell you you can't. You can.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Jason Tatum, go get it. It's wide open, young fella. 99, go get it. Don't let them tell y'all not to go get it. We challenge y'all for a reason. We want to see y'all do better. That's it. It's called tough love.
Starting point is 01:13:23 It's called big brother shit. I wish I could play with all y'all. I'll show you what the tough love is because you're going to get better. I promise you that. Promise you that. Celtics number one option. So where's LeBron James in your top ten? I don't know. Who? LeBron James. Where's he at in your top ten?
Starting point is 01:13:39 That dude also? This dude. This dude as we referred to earlier. You can do all the talking about him, but you can't say where he ranks in your list. I'm a hater. It don't matter. Where does he rank in your list? Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:57 But where does he rank in your actual list? If that's what you want to classify it as, bro, it may ask you a question. You were a builder. I heard a question. I don't have an answer. You abstain from asked you a question. You were a builder. I heard the question. I don't have an answer. You abstain from answering that particular one? I don't have an answer right now.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Don't have an answer. Maybe next week. But you don't think he could have said, comes with bullshit, you're going to get whipped. Yeah, you can tell him all that. You can tell him all that. I just want to know where in his top 10, who his top 10 is, so we can hear the names of this top ten
Starting point is 01:14:26 That's all I want So so LeBron James point can be proven by him in real time if he going up against me say he going up against me No, what I'm saying is me. What is your top ten? I'm the problem Let me know on the problem cuz I know I'm not the problem. You're not the problem is the problem What is your top truth is the problem. What is your top 10, Peter? The truth is the problem. The truth is the problem. What is your top 10? Kobe challenged people.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Because once we ask... Kobe will challenge everybody. Once we ask him his top 10... If he ain't here to do it, there ain't nobody doing it. What are we doing? KG would challenge him. I know he would.
Starting point is 01:14:59 But I think... But they're not in the gold. They've never been beat up. I want to ask you, what is your top 10 so we can see where LeBron ranks? And then I'm going to ask another. Oh, I don't have a top ten.
Starting point is 01:15:08 So I'm going to ask the next question. You're going to have to go to a whole other point. Your trap question is not going to work. If you know, what I mean, if you're standing on business, then there's no trap. It is a trap question. So if you got a top three, you don't have a top four. You can't move on to your next point without getting this information. So now you'll never get the information.
Starting point is 01:15:26 You'll never prove the point. So you're going to have to go somewhere else. I'm too good at this shit. So what you talk about, you don't even stand on. You can't stand on 10 toes. I got nine today. Okay, I see. Unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:15:41 But to LeBron's point, I'm going to read the last part. You shot me in my pinkie toe. Now you want to shoot me in my pinkie toe. So back to LeBron's point, the last point. He said, this ain't about me either. At this point, I don't really care what's said about me. It's always something. This is about the impact negativity is having on our beautiful game.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I think the impact as a whole. The game isn't talked about in the same way. When we were coming up, 80s, 90s, it was talked about in a particular way. One person commented, talked about inside stuff and shows like that. It was always about uplifting and building, where now the scope, where even you talk about the media now, writers like Stephen A. Smith, Windhorse, and these people have now shifted to talking heads. They're not writing those articles anymore to uplift the game or give you insider perspective. It seems like it's a lot more toxicity and negative things are being said,
Starting point is 01:16:23 because, Kenny, as you pointed out, negativity negativity sells and that's just the reality of the industry that we work in people don't want to hear positive shit because everybody and they mama got a podcast of some fucking sort we started before the podcast idea but I'm just saying but now and this time we're in, unfortunately, more people have voices than they should. I caught somebody, the comment I made on somebody the other day, right? You told me to stay away from it, right?
Starting point is 01:17:02 Motherfucker talking about it's the worst podcast ever. No, I went right, like, don't. What I meant was stay away from it, but go into it. but yeah, but you know what I but you know, but but you know me I'm which podcast were you not talking about us? So we're technically a show this is good But he added this but whatever it is. It was I wouldn't go so So you play so many years in the NBA since you fuck you such a fucking expert Right what gives you like so you years in the NBA since you fucking, you such a fucking expert. Mm. Right? What gives you, like, so him and his homeboy got a show together and they going in on Gil for something Gil said.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Do we know these people? No, we don't fucking know them at all. They're nobody. Did the show have viewership? No, none that I know of. I don't, but it just came across my, you know what I'm saying? And this is a point that I'm making. Just because you have a couple of dollars to go buy a couple of microphones
Starting point is 01:17:50 and sit in front of your fucking laptop, you and your homeboy don't give you the right to speak on this. That's how they all feel about me. That's how they all feel about me right now. That's how everybody feels about me. I get it, no, but I didn't do shit enough to be able to have an opinion the way I have an opinion.
Starting point is 01:18:09 I shouldn't be talking the way I talk. I get it, but, God damn it, you know, I did ten years in purgatory, and I'm here now. And I get to talk. And it's like, damn. They don't want to hear this nigga talk because he talking that shit, and they hate it and want to hear it. God damn it. It's not talking shit.
Starting point is 01:18:25 How dare you challenge him? It's not challenging. Idiot. How dare you hate on him? You can say idiot. Damn. No, think about what I'm saying. And it's like when I ask y'all to talk hoop, when I say let's talk hoop, y'all don't want to talk hoop, y'all want to talk bullshit.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Let's talk asses nose. Let's talk what the officer you'll do. Yeah, y'all wanted to troll them, but now it's like, oh, we trolling, and y'all want to talk hoop now. I've been wanting to talk hoop. Y'all keep bringing the nigga up. Now I got to have an opinion, because I got to have an opinion, right?
Starting point is 01:18:53 He's a very good basketball player. I want to talk hoop. This was the point. Let's talk hoop. This is a hoop conversation. Shit. If you ask the world to name your top 10 of anything in life, right? They will give you a top 10.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Like, your top 10 brands, everything. Women in the world, everything. Right? Right? There's only one individual, if you do people, there's only one entity that has a negative mark in part of the top ten. If you say, where does LeBron fall in your top ten,
Starting point is 01:19:35 no matter where they fucking put him, he will be the only person that you talk negative about. If you put him at four, five, two, six, whatever you put him, he's the only person that you talk shit about. You don't talk shit about seven, eight, if he's five. Do people have a reason to? It don't matter.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Yes, it does. Think about what? Why wouldn't it matter? It doesn't matter. Why wouldn't it matter? Why? Because I have a reason to. If I'm saying, think about what? Why wouldn't it matter? It doesn't matter. Why wouldn't it matter? Why? Because I have a reason to. If I didn't have a reason to, there would be no reason.
Starting point is 01:20:11 That's an insecurity of using. How? Because if I got reasons to say this guy is not this, you can't tell me I don't have a reason. So wait. If I say, man, I thought it was weak. You went from here to here. I can't put you in my top because you made a week. Same with KD. If I say, man, I thought it was weak. You went from here to here. I can't put you in my top because you made a weak.
Starting point is 01:20:29 Same with KD. I'm just saying this is what people can say. People's like, man, my reason for not is because I thought that was weak. For not what? For not putting you in my top ten. My reason for not putting you in my top ten is because of this. People say that. Like, no, I can't do that because of what he did here. They say, that's Kobe too much like Jordan. That's why he. No, okay, I can't do that because of what he did here. And then it's like, oh. That's Kobe too much like
Starting point is 01:20:46 Jordan. That's why he... I can't put you in because you're too much. You're 1B. You can't do it. 1B. And people have their reasons why they do shit. Nah, I can't put you... Stephen A. Smith. I can't put him top 3 because he rolled tracks back for 3 championships.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Isn't that a reason? He's a clone. Isn't that a reason why? That's the reason why he's not. Reason why he's not. What is that? It's a reason? He's a clone. Isn't that a reason why? That's the reason why he's not. Reason why he's not. What exactly? It's the reason why he's not top 10. ESPN got Toby at 18. There's a reason. We're not talking about who's out of your list.
Starting point is 01:21:18 We're talking about who's in your list. Don't matter. These are supposed to be your favorites. Don't matter. They don't have to be your favorites. How is a favorite part of your top to be your favorite don't matter they don't have to be your how is the favorite to be your party your top 10 is your favorite reason why what i'm saying is it's your favorite so you're telling me in your favorite you can say something good about one two three four let's say lebron's five you talk shit about five didn't talk great about six seven eight nine ten
Starting point is 01:21:46 That's weird. It's not if you're the only one to do Put me 11 Top 10 favorite What is your top 10 of all time? That's why I asked them so you can see what a number a Z Where we do for Katie people like man Katie would be top three They do that he would be talking if he did do that shit We're talking about penalize KD for doing that shit. I'm not as Ron
Starting point is 01:22:18 Lies to we're asking you where do they stand in your top? They're not in the top me Okay, so this has nothing to do with you. So you talk. So everybody else, like somebody like Stephen A. Smith, he says LeBron is two. Okay, number one, you talk positive about. Number two, you kill. Number three, you talk positive about. Four positive. Five, six, seven. Like, why is two so talked down about? You talk down about two like he's motherfucking 200. That's the problem. These are my top, like...
Starting point is 01:22:55 Tell them, Nick. Two is... You're supposed to... Why he's not one. Why he's not one. Three is you already know he's... It's why he's not two. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:04 It's four. Can I ask y'all a question? Four is why you're not three. Can I you already know his. It's why he's not two. Yeah. It's four. Can I ask you a question? Four is why you're not three. Can I ask you a question? That's why I said that's an insecurity. The insecurity is this. You say Michael Jordan or Kobe's number one. Number two, well, he's only number two.
Starting point is 01:23:18 That becomes the insecurity. You think you're going to get backlash because you put this guy at two. So the insecurity of you already is playing defense. Well, look, he's two because he lost six times in the finals. He switched schools. He did this. He did that. He did that.
Starting point is 01:23:34 You can't do that. If I even put Jordan, I'd say why Jordan. You got to say why. Because I don't say he's playing against nobody like that. I would say that. But it's your fate. Who's nobody like that. I don't say that. But you just, but it's your, like, who's your, who's? Are you saying favorites or are you just telling me to say my top ten? My top ten is not my top favorites.
Starting point is 01:23:53 So your top ten. You said, what's your top ten? So what I'm saying, so your top ten. I'm thinking you at, at my name, my top ten. But it's your opinion. And why I think that. What I'm saying, it's your opinion. So your top ten could be any motherfucking body.
Starting point is 01:24:06 It's not like you have to really justify it. Yes, he does. Everybody only justifies it. You justify why you don't have the body. We're comparing each other's top tens. That's the whole point. You don't have to justify. What's the point of asking me the question then?
Starting point is 01:24:18 Because you don't have to justify. What's the point of asking me the question? Because. No, no, no, no. I want to know the point of asking me my top ten if I'm not going to justify it. Because it's yours. Don't ask me.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Tell me why you're asking. Then know what your top ten is. I need to tell you why. So, in your... What the fuck is this empty information if you just want to know... And you don't want to know why.
Starting point is 01:24:39 What? He just wants to learn more about you. Okay, here we go. If somebody say, name three women that you would marry. And I'd be like, all right. I got Beyonce, right?
Starting point is 01:24:52 I got Rihanna, and I got Holly Berry. Right? They're like, who's one? I'd be like, Beyonce. Who's two? Well, I mean, her hair's kind of big. You know, she look like a smoker. She won't dress very well Rihanna number three. I thought it was a holly bird number three Holly and then Holly Berry. Oh, yeah, how do you so beautiful?
Starting point is 01:25:13 May God why did I love it? But you see why did you pick Beyonce as your number one? She's the most gorgeous thing that ever was that's the reason why number two don't even matter. You saying that means the reason why number two don't even matter. You just gave me the whole breakdown. This is why I picked number one. It don't matter what we say
Starting point is 01:25:36 about number two. It don't matter. But you can't say that all in one thing. But think about what I think about what you do. Why do that have to be a two-part question? You can't just explain it all in one thing. No, but think about what you do. Why do that have to be a two-part question? You can't just explain it all in one thing. No, but think about what I'm saying. I'm telling you how great number one is. Then, for some reason, because everybody might have number two as their best,
Starting point is 01:25:54 I just defensively destroy number two so y'all know why she's not number one. Oh, my. And then number three, I give her the praise again. Because she never had a chance to be number one. You see, if this is your top three, you're supposed to be talking brilliancy about all three. That is weird shit
Starting point is 01:26:11 that you're saying these are the three most beautiful people in the world, but you're talking about her head being, she look like a smoker, but like that's weird. I'm sorry. Like that sounds like you're talking that sounds like you're talking about number one. So why the explanation so I said, I just have a question. Why the explanation came from three?
Starting point is 01:26:30 I put Jordan three because he didn't play. Kenyon, Kenyon, Kenyon. Kenyon Martin. Kenyon Martin. Yes, we got two combos going on. Better than in and out. But I'm explaining to you why I feel that way. That's not a fair question.
Starting point is 01:26:42 Why is safe better than in and out? Why are you pre, that's what I'm saying. You're already I feel that way. That's not a fair question. Why is safe-shack better than in-and-out? Why are you pre-? That's what I'm saying. You're already becoming on the defense because you think someone's going to say something of why Jordan's three. That's what people are doing. So you're saying, I'm going to tell you why one is one. Like okay, Kobe's one, LeBron's two, and then when you get to three, you know there's going to be an uproar.
Starting point is 01:27:01 So now you got to explain and bring out all his flaws for no reason. He's number three because he ain't playing against nobody. Everybody was weak then. They did a whole bunch of cocaine. No, but you're not doing all that. So you're doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:27:14 But you're saying it. But I'm just saying. Now you get it. Now you get it. No, but that's everything, though. It's not just for LeBron. If I'm putting somebody well, I'm going to tell you why the other people are second. So I'm going to ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:27:28 I'm going to answer yours. Thank you. Why can't the explanation that you're giving, why can't it be positive? Just like it was for one and two? You don't know what it's going to be. It's somebody's personal opinion. But the question is, why do you have to, like, say what he didn't do that one did? Why can't his accolades and his accomplishments be the reason that you had him at two?
Starting point is 01:27:51 I'm telling you why he's not at number one. No, see, that's the problem. That's the problem. How is that the problem? How is that the problem? That's the only answer. That's the only answer. The reason you're not number one is this.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Why? Because you're not number one. That's what I'm trying to say. What are you talking about? Don't you want to know why you didn't win? No. Man, I didn't win. I want to know why.
Starting point is 01:28:12 That's why we look at film. You go back and look at film to see why you lost. Why you hit the other girl? What the fuck? You had two chicks last night. Why you hit the other girl? What the fuck? Man, she hit her head.
Starting point is 01:28:20 No, we just lost tonight. No, stop. This is love. It was better than this. Blah, blah, blah, blah. You're just lost tonight. It was better than this. Blum, blum, blum, blum. You're just going down like he got, he went six for six. He had the scoring title.
Starting point is 01:28:32 The simple explanation is he could be better. That's the only negative part. Let's get back to the important question. Shake Shack or In-N-Out, K-In? Oh, Shake Shack. All day. Why? That just ruined our relationship. Well, I'm sorry, Josiah. No, you don't have to be sorry. You're still my guy.
Starting point is 01:28:46 You're still my guy. Damn. But he's like, I'm sorry, Josiah. In-N-Out or Whataburger? I'm going to say it's Whataburger. Whataburger? Los Angeles, sir. No, but In-N-Out, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Is it the fries? Because it's about the burgers. The burgers, I just not a fan, bro. Okay, no, no, no. Paolo, see what you did. This is very different. You're better than that, Paolo. He said, in and out, what did he say?
Starting point is 01:29:10 In and out of what? Shake Shack. Shake Shack, which that's not part of your top three, right? What is your top three burger places? Yeah. What is yours? Shake Shack, Water Burger, Five Guys. Five Guys.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Those are your top three. Now, can you rank them? No, do you but do you have But do you have a negative if you're talking to this far it's how far you see what I'm said Think about what I said about I didn't give him a burger place for him to be like, I don't like that shit This is his top three the three burgers. He like do you have a negative one? You don't have nothing negative say about the three burgers. That's his favorite three. So me so you telling me Burger I've never heard if you put in and out I'm gonna have something negative say cuz I don't like it So let's say it again if you put a per if you put in and out in there
Starting point is 01:30:03 I don't like it. So I'm going to have something negative to say. Oh, my Lord. And that's the problem with burger places. Have mercy. That's the problem with the burger places. Say it. If you throw it in there again, say it. Say it with a little.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Put a little jang-a-lang on there. Put a little of that dang-dang-dang on there. Throw it in there again. He said if you throw in and out in any of the conversations, I'm not going to like it. I don't like it. I don't like it. You're lying. I do not. I don't like in and out in any of the conversations, I'm not going to like you. I don't like you. I don't like you. You're lying.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I do not. I don't like in and out. I do not like in and out. Part of his conversation. Part of my conversation. So why would you put somebody in your top ten if you don't like them? That's the point. Duh.
Starting point is 01:30:37 So we asked the chat, why would you be mad when I don't got them in my top? Nobody cares if you got them in your top. We want better for you, Sean. It makes sense. It actually makes sense if you didn't have him in your top Yeah, it'd be horrible if you had a third and then you just put them forth because it's that curry that'd be horrible So we asked the chat is LeBron Spinner tripping with his confidence on the NBA media 78 percent said that he's spitting. This is like having Little D-Lo in your top five. That just seems weird, right? Like, yo, what's your top five point guard?
Starting point is 01:31:09 And he'd be like, yeah, I got Little D-Lo third. Not Big D-Lo. Not D-Lo. Little D-Lo. That just sounds weird. The nigga you hate is in your top? That's crazy. I'd rather you just say there's 5,000 NBA players, LeBron is 5,000.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Just do that. Why does it matter where I have... You don't care about none of the other guys. That's weird. Because you don't say nothing bad about any of the other guys. That's weird. What other guys? You don't even know who the other guys are. No one bashes Kirk.
Starting point is 01:31:41 No one bashes... Nobody bashes one, two, three. It just matter where I got this guy. It don't matter about everybody else. Everybody else, where they at with this guy, I don't like where you got him. Well, let's keep this thing moving, talk about some important basketball subjects that happened to end Black History Month
Starting point is 01:31:58 and to also start March, also known as White History Month. Lakers and Clippers met for the second time in three days Sunday. That was insane. So Lakers and Clippers met for the second time in three days Sunday. That was insane. So Lakers and Clippers met for the second time in three days this past Sunday, with the Purple and Gold down two starters in Austin Reeves and Rui Hachimura.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Still had Leluka Bronchik, though. Oh, shit, hold on. Can you ask him about my check, too, Gil? You seen that, Bron? I got his ass, right? Oh, you got it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Got your balls.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Bron's happy with what I did. Can you tell Brian? Thank you for being an EP on my show. So Lakers still have the Luka... Got your balls. Lakers still have the Luka-Bronchik, though. League's most dangerous duo did work despite an off night from the best 40-year-old in league history.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Let's watch some highlights. Yeah, it was a little off. It wasn't a typical expectation. So Luka followed up his 31-piece Friday with another solid game, Let's watch some highlights. Yeah, it was a little off. It wasn't a two-inch typical expectation. So, Luka followed up his 31-piece Friday with another solid game, putting up 29.6 rebounds, nine assists, and two steals in 37 minutes. So, most he's played in the game since joining the Purple and Gold. Luka was 9 for 17 from the field, 5 for 12 from three.
Starting point is 01:33:01 Brown finished the game with 17 points, nine assists, five boards. Now just one point shy of becoming the first player in NBA history with 50,000 points in the regular season and playoffs combined. I was at the game. Shout out to Adidas, James Harden, who blessed me with tickets to the suite. Wanted to see LeBron get 50K. He denied me my chance to win this history. 50K? That was just regular season.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Regular season. 50 is for playoffs and. Regular season combined. So, Dalton Connect had his best game since his trade at the Hornets was rescinded. He had 19 points off the bench going 5-8 from 3. Kawhi had a season-high 33 points on 13 for 23 shooting, along with 10 rebounds. Chris Dunn added 15 points for assists. James Harden had 13 and 8, but was 4 for 14 from the field.
Starting point is 01:33:43 And Boggy Boggy came off the bench, dropped 12 points, but he was 4-11 from deep. After missing previous five games with a left knee injury, Norm Powell returned to the lineup for the Clippers, left the game in the first quarter with a hamstring injury, did not return. Lakers led by as much as 20 points in the third quarter, but after Luka went to the bench, the Clippers went on a 22-7 run. And with the Clippers surging late you see it ladies and
Starting point is 01:34:06 gentlemen LeBron came through with one of his vintage blocks chasing it down uh play was reviewed uh officials ruled that it was blocked by James as if there was ever a doubt uh that block helped keep the game out of the reach so after losing the first meeting this season at Intuit Dome the Lakers have won three straight games against the Clippers to win the season series not that we were keeping track But they won eight straight games jump to this or excuse me They won six straight games jump to the second spot in the West After being the fifth seed heading into all-star break after the game JJ Redick had this warning for teams trying to defend Luka in drop coverage nature of playing with Luka Doncic and we knew this when we traded for him,
Starting point is 01:34:45 and again, this is why you always have to be adaptable as a coach. The nature of playing with Luka Doncic is if you play drop coverage against him, you're going to die. So teams are going to red or they're going to blitz. We have to be better, and we're going to figure that out. It helps when you can play all shooting lineups. I'm not concerned about that. So, Kane, a question for you.
Starting point is 01:35:04 You are a defensive expert here on the couch. Took pride on that side of the ball. For the casual fans out there, maybe the fans who don't know as much about basketball, what's the difference between red and a blitz in terms of a defensive scheme? Just the terminology. It depends on the team. It's the same thing. Some people call it blitz, some people call it red. Just whatever they want to deem it as. Just like side pick and rolls, it's down, five, blue. Like, if you want to keep the ball on the side,
Starting point is 01:35:35 those three calls are the same thing. It just depends on the coach, on what he wants to call. Same thing with mid, in the middle pick and rolls, however you want to cover it. It just depends on what the coach has been taught from previous staffs that he's been on. Just like it's a double drag play. People just call it double drag or 77.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Or if a drag is just seven this is a regular pick and roll and so it's just the same terminologies on the offensive defense just the teams on so if you're a coach you had to try and game plan to stop Luka Doncic are you heating JJ Reddick's advice to not be in drop coverage or you're gonna die yeah I think drop coverage is lazy. So I'm never coaching drop coverage. I think it's a cop-out. I love drop coverage. I know you do.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Somebody dropping on me? I'm saying, but they're running the pick and roll. As a defender. No, for me, I just, I'm a firm believer in, I'm meeting aggressive offensive players with aggression on defense That's just the more the more aggressive the players the more aggressive my game plan is with that person So if Luca comes off a pick and roll he's gonna have to get off the ball other people gonna have to make decisions and in this situation they have another guy that's been making these decisions for longer than he has, so they're
Starting point is 01:37:10 not hurting in that aspect. So be careful with that game plan with them two guys out there. But if I'm, I'm doubling Luke. I'm jumping him. Like, that switching, you still let him play one-on-one. You still certain things. I'm switching the game, playing up. We're going to jump him sometimes. We're going to hard show. I'm going to give him a...
Starting point is 01:37:34 He's not going to have a steady diet of the same coverage out of timeouts. I'm switching it up every timeout. I'm going to make him think. That's just the way I would approach it. I ain't saying it's going to work, but that's the way I'm going to approach it. And we're going to give some effort into it.
Starting point is 01:37:55 You're going to get aggressive with him. So, Gil, you were watching the game on playback. Got a very good sample size of Luka Doncic now playing eight games with the Lakers. Luka seemed to be very animated in this game, talking to the Clippers bench, talking to James Harden. What are you seeing from Luka during this eight-game stretch? And is he finally starting to look like he is?
Starting point is 01:38:13 I've seen exactly what I thought was going to happen. This reminds me of Steph and KD, right? Shaq and Kobe, you know, once like probably mid-second championship, especially going into that third. When everybody game plan was a double Shaq, double Shaq, double Shaq, make everybody shoot. And then Kobe became a god.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Now it's like, oh shit, what do we do now? Right? So everyone's been used to doubling. James, get him off the ball, make other plays, right? Guard Anthony Davis, you know, ones, let him do what he's going to do. Now they bring in Luka, who now everyone actually has to double him. And if you're doubling him, now LeBron James is open on the weak side or get to play one-on-one, right?
Starting point is 01:39:09 That becomes the problem because he used to be doubled and everybody else gets to try it. Now Luka becomes the focal point on double teams. Now LeBron James is actually playing by himself. And that becomes, now you have one of the GOATs just sitting here by himself shooting wide open threes for the first time in a long time.
Starting point is 01:39:31 You're talking about, we ain't seen him do this in a minute. He's just sitting here by himself because of all the double teams that you have to game plan for Luka because you can't play him one-on-one. So it became a different strategy and just watching people try to game plan for it will be interesting. It's like Kyrie and Luka. I mean, Kyrie and... Yeah, Kyrie and Luka. When you're doubling Luka,
Starting point is 01:39:58 sweeten that bitch to Kyrie, Kyrie's fucking you up. He's like, oh, shit, let me go double him. Now, he's fucking... That's what ends up happening here. But you got a much bigger guy. And so with J.J. Redding's thing, not a problem, but he said you put five shooters out there, but although, when you get to the playoffs, you're going to have to defend somebody along the way. It's just what it is, right? I don't give a fuck what nobody say. Whether it's team, whether it's individual, you're gonna have to guard somebody in the playoffs. In order to advance, right, you gotta guard somebody.
Starting point is 01:40:26 So you still have to play some of them non-shooters at times. So when you are, you're gonna game plan for the ball to find them, right? That's what we would do. That's what I would try to strategize in it, that the ball, make the ball find them. So shall we see you with the gladiator mask? We're going to call you Blacksimus.
Starting point is 01:40:47 Thank you. While you wear the mask. Blacksimus. Did y'all watch the game for real? Yeah, I did not. You didn't watch the game? No. You watched the game?
Starting point is 01:40:55 I did. A little bit. I was in James Harden's suite at the game watching very diligently. Okay, so if we all watched the game, right, you would know that the Lakers were up how much? 20 in the third quarter, and they took Luke out. Clippers went on a nice run. But they actually got that 20-point lead.
Starting point is 01:41:12 Okay, so when the Clippers started coming back, did you see the series of events that actually changed the game not only for the Clippers, but for the Lakers? Clippers got stops. Clippers made plays. Guess who didn't hit shots?
Starting point is 01:41:28 Y'all watched the game, right? Who didn't hit shots? LeBron. Chris Dunn didn't hit shots. Oh, for the other side. So, why did Tyrone Lou leave Chris Dunn to play the point guard and not put Nicholas Batum in
Starting point is 01:41:44 and let James Harden run the one? Because he knew if Batum was in the fourth quarter we would be screaming, why not put Nicholas Batum in and let James Harden run the one. Because he knew if Batum was in the fourth quarter we would be screaming, why the fuck is Batum in? Same reason we were screaming, why the fuck is Broncos on the bench? Who can hit that shot? Who has proven to hit these shots? In the fourth, you just made a run.
Starting point is 01:42:00 I'm yelling at the screen. Why are you not making the sub? Why have you not? He missed two in a row. This is during the comeback. They lost by six. They could have cut it to three. They were down five. He missed three straight.
Starting point is 01:42:12 He kept getting it. He was the only one open, right? I can't depend on Batum to make that shot. But I should be depending. Look, I should be depending on James Harden, though, right? James gave me 13 points. He wasn't playing that much. I should be depending on James
Starting point is 01:42:26 because you know who did show up? Kawhi. Norman Powell, I think he got hurt. Did something happen to him? He was on a bandwagon. Right? He played first quarter, came back from the missed five games,
Starting point is 01:42:36 I think, with a knee injury, ended up having a hammy issue. So we need somebody to step up. But lack of a step up, fuck all that. The fact that the coaching decision wasn't to sub out the guy that couldn't hit the shots that could have put you up.
Starting point is 01:42:47 Not only... Not only... Listen, let's just say the guy comes in and hits two of the four shots. It gives you a better chance to get close to that. That layup he missed, that's great defense, right? They finally playing some defense. Like, if you get that bucket, he got the steal. But he's playing on the defensive side.
Starting point is 01:43:05 He's the good side of the defense. That's the Terrence Mann side. Right? But you got to play offense because you down. So who you putting in? Baton. Did he play yesterday? He played a little bit.
Starting point is 01:43:22 I don't know. That's tough. Because can Coffey hit that shot? Yeah. Bat's tough. Because can Coffey hit that shot? Yeah. Baton Dunn can hit that shot, though. Can Coffey hit that shot? I mean, we're going to talk about what somebody would have did if they had a didn't. Or we just talk about stats.
Starting point is 01:43:35 We just talk about the statistically you're a proven hit and hit that shot compared to Chris Dunn is a non-shooter, and we know that. It's a scout report. Then if Black and Mouth makes the wide-open layup, Luka passed to him with a minute 50-something left, the game would have actually been over. But before that, y'all were up 20. Yeah, we were. But I'm saying, the comeback was to be able to sustain that lead to bring it down to a tie game and take the lead.
Starting point is 01:44:00 No, this was before the tie. It went to eight. They scored. Y'all scored. No, it went to five when he missed three in a row. I'm talking about 15 seconds before that. Luka made a pass to Black and Miles.
Starting point is 01:44:11 He's wide open and actually missed the layup. Then came down and hit a three. Then came down and stole the ball. So that three don't happen. That still don't happen if Black and Miles just made the layup. But possessions before that, Chris Dunn missed happen if Black and Mild just made the layup. But possessions before that, Chris Dunn missed consecutive
Starting point is 01:44:28 Black and Mild, Dorian Finney-Smith for everybody. I got a question. I didn't even want to be mad at him. I was like, if the game, if it goes the other way, this was the play of the game where you missed the wide open layup to make us go up.
Starting point is 01:44:44 But the fact that he was playing a good game, I couldn't even address this. I'm like, let me see how it ends. Norman Powell changes the plan. Do Austin Reeves and Rui Hachimor change this game as well? Both. Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:54 But didn't Dalton Connect come in in 19? Reeves. Like, you got access to a good game we're talking about, right? If you make the right coaching decision down the stretch So the Lakers that number two can LeBron win MVP. So that brings me my next question Nick. Thank you so much. So During he's the top three right now So during the game last night good folks expect from sports But ran a graphic comparing LeBron's number since turning 40 to his they got 13 MVP season. Let's take a look
Starting point is 01:45:21 I'm just saying side Side by side comparison. Look. Look, that's what I'm saying. He's not an MVP. Huh? And how much they gonna give us? Huh? A couple hundred thousand. Okay. A couple hundred thousand. Good folks are clutch.
Starting point is 01:45:40 But just, I mean, regardless of how you feel about LeBron, whatever your opinions are. Nah, that's crazy, bro. 2013, 2025. This is since turning 40, so December 30th, I believe he celebrated his birthday. 27, 8, and 8, shooting 55% from the field, 43% from three. And they stay at number two, though. In the West. I know it's good for them, too, but he getting a lot of OPs. He done something.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Big man is number three is average of motherfucking triple-double. But what if they fall to the is, number three is averaging a motherfucking triple-double. But what if they fall to the... I'm just saying, he's averaging a triple-double, like a real one. With the knuckle. Like, it's a real one. And then young fella is averaging 32, 6, and 5.
Starting point is 01:46:16 I think all LeBron does as two is kind of, like, separate Jokic from Shea. Because once people start throwing LeBron in there, oh, LeBron is in the running. People are going to start moving Jokic down a little bit, which kind of gives Shea these couple points. Remember, it's points. Jokic took over.
Starting point is 01:46:35 Oh, he took over? Nah. Jokic took over over the weekend. MVP letter. Yes. Jokic took over. I'm telling you. I think that's all it does. It's going the other way. I'm telling you, man. Put the wall of LeBron in there.
Starting point is 01:46:48 And without diminishing any of the gentlemen who are now in this MVP letter discussion, because what SGA is doing is phenomenal. OKC got that team playing at a very high level. Jokic could be the first big man in the league history to average a triple-double. It's hard to argue how you cannot give him the MVP for doing so. But LeBron has the Lakers, who many thought were ass. We remember all the commentary. They were trash.
Starting point is 01:47:09 Ten seed at one point earlier in the season. He keeps everything. There's people who got six. In second right now, obviously. That's a hell of a jump. That is fifth heading into the All-Star break. He got the same as LeBron, though. It's impressive.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Scoring titles, defense. It keeps y'all, like, that helps. It makes us feel good at night. Home court, being able not to be seven. Actually, make the playoffs. And not the play-in situation and not have that burden on y'all. We had an earthquake last night, and I didn't even care. Not as good as I thought they was.
Starting point is 01:47:45 Not as good as I thought they was. Not as good as I thought it was. Price you pay? Clippers. The Lakers. You had us at 10. I'm saying after looking at last night, I'm just revisiting last night. Are you ready to come back on the bad way? I'm pretty sure no one is going to take your criticism on the Lakers very seriously.
Starting point is 01:48:01 We figured they can win by 100, and you're going to be like, you know what? You didn't win by 101. I mean, as long as I'm going to be discredited, they're not going to take any credibility out of it. So it's all good. Eventually, y'all are going to see the light. And Shastradamus has never been wrong anyway,
Starting point is 01:48:22 so why wouldn't you? You're wrong right now because you had him 10 coming into the season. It's fool's gold. I'll take fool's gold at two. Me too. I would take that happily. Definitely. Let's talk about somebody who deserves.
Starting point is 01:48:35 It's like a butt shot. It's still a butt. Yes. Still look good in these cheeks. Still cheeks. Secondly cheeks. Still cheeks. Fool's gold for a reason.
Starting point is 01:48:42 All right, Mikey Silicon, but God damn it, you still looking. Silicone can still get the bonus, they say. Lakers are 38-21 this season, holding down the second spot in the West. I'm just reading, Gil. It was in the script. Lakers are 38-21 this season, holding down the second spot in the West. 18-4 the last 22 games. Won 11 straight games against teams above.500.
Starting point is 01:49:02 How much credit does J.J. Redick deserve for the Lakers success so far this season what's the GM Rob Palenka I mean listen bring him black in my over I wanted to get that on the back of his jersey. That was, I mean, obviously, that was a fucking... He really liked black and white. Yeah, that was a fucking amazing move, right? I mean, I didn't, we didn't really see that come, like, we lost, you know, we lost D-Lo, who was, you know, he shows like he can hit shots,
Starting point is 01:49:40 but what Smith is doing is like, that's really helpful. He is consistent, right? He hits shots, he rebounds, he plays the game. He's like a good glue guy for us. Very close with Luka. Yeah, and then you still got, what's the young kid that's from the G League? Jordan Goodwin. Oh, I like him.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Like, he's been really consistent in hitting shots and playing deep. I like what he brings, so. Palenka making good moves, JJ making great adjustments and getting everybody to play better. And then I guess just everybody itself accepting their roles. Can't get a black and brown deal? Can't get a player that gets smoked deals? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:27 So we not gonna talk about the reason why they came back because of the lack of defense y'all was playing? No. You up 20, man. We don't care. We don't care why. 30 or 20. It happens. What you mean?
Starting point is 01:50:38 That was the breakdown I'm talking about. That's exactly what I'm talking about. I'm like, if fools go because, like, I'm looking at the, it never was addressed down the stretch. That's why I'm saying the Clippers were supposed to win that game due to the lack of adjustments defensively. Well, that sounds like... Throw that bitch in. Throw that bitch in.
Starting point is 01:50:51 Zubat. Oh, get one. Oh, man. Lugo ain't down there playing no defense. They just letting us go. Just go to the rim. Go to the rim. That sounds just like...
Starting point is 01:50:59 Dude, down 20. They came back. You've been in the game. They came back and brought in your five. Players start coming back. You look at the game when you down 20. They came back and brought in your five. Players start coming back, you look at the bench like, all right, fucking up. You know, and the stars got to come back in and shit. That shit happens, man.
Starting point is 01:51:12 Yes, bro, it happens. That sounds like the Olympics. It didn't look good. That sounds like the Olympics when they say, who saved LeBron James? Not who saved us, but who saved LeBron James. Team USA. America, our beautiful country. Who said LeBron America our beautiful That that thing Who saved what we the game was never actually in reach five points?
Starting point is 01:51:36 It was that was the closest they've ever got that's called in reach, bro. What are you talking about? You saved? possession game. But it's what is saved. What are you talking about? Like it's eight. We're up eight. Two possession game. They hit a three, make it a five. They missed two straight shots. Back to back because of the same guy. He's not a non-shooter. He missed those two shots.
Starting point is 01:51:58 When you say saved, it implies that we had a chance. We were going to lose and someone had to do something to win. No. Eight, five. I just said the reason why y'all won is because the coach didn't do something. Nine.
Starting point is 01:52:13 Miss. He was in the game doing the comeback, right? He was in the game doing the comeback. I think we just wanted to make it competitive. You want to take him out? After you see that this is what they're gonna give up. They're giving this up It's the Eric snow in the fuck. We've given that up No, Eric's no slander on that's what really happened. They left that open. They was like we're gonna make him shoot that
Starting point is 01:52:35 He got to hit that that's what happened. You got to make that adjustment on the fly like alright This is a if we got a chance to win. We got to make this adjustment right now You gotta make this we down five. We to make this adjustment right now. You never had a chance to win. You got to make this adjustment. We're down five. We got to make this adjustment right now. Hey, T. Luke, you got to throw him in. Didn't even got that steal. Was James Harden out there?
Starting point is 01:52:51 He never got that steal. James Harden was out there. He had already missed. He had already missed the shots before that. But James Harden was out there. We had a chance to win. We had a chance to tie him. But James Harden was out there.
Starting point is 01:52:59 Yeah, that's what I said. James gave us 13. Why you pass it? What if you take him out before that? You don't have no chance to tie it. We had a chance to get it to five. When? What point? You taking out defense. He was a part of that
Starting point is 01:53:12 comeback. His defense. Yes. He gonna take that out. You know the difference between subbing offense, subbing defense. You know the drill. I know. Why you playing with me then? But you acting like it's his fault. I'm not. I'm saying he's not being put in a position to succeed. He did his job.
Starting point is 01:53:29 He did, but he got it now. Hey, listen, sub him out, throw him in. We're going to run this play. Sub him out, put him back in on defense. What you mean? You got to call timeouts to sub. Clipper strategy. You don't have to call timeouts.
Starting point is 01:53:41 Did not lead to a win. It could be the first dead ball. It wasn't no dead ball. It can be. Okay, he missed a three. 96-10 way. Is there gonna be the first day ball? They could be it can be okay Well, I see that he missed a 3 96 107. Do you want to take my then I? Would I try to adjust okay cuz again it was in that position which they're showing what we're giving up You don't but you don't what I'm saying is you don't get that steel
Starting point is 01:54:01 Not worried about the steel though.. We don't worry about it. That comes after. That comes after. After he would have been already subbed. That comes after. That he would have been subbed? Yes, it comes after. Down the line.
Starting point is 01:54:12 So he subbed and nothing happened? That's what I'm saying. How are you going to get subbed? What are you talking about? If this happens before, what are you talking about? This happened before. It's got to be a dead ball. But if the game just going like this.
Starting point is 01:54:21 Like he misses the three, you sub him out there right. Y'all just talking basketball. Y'all just trying to prove me wrong at this point. No, the game does going like this. Like he misses the three, you sub him out there. I was talking basketball. Y'all just trying to prove me wrong at this point. No, the game does go like this. You're not thinking like if you sub him out after he misses three. We call a timeout. Okay, you're up. They're up nine now.
Starting point is 01:54:34 No, they're not. Gil, I see you have your phone handy. I'm looking play by play. Can you read the final score for me, please? When he missed those two shots, what was the score? When he missed the two shots. Okay was the score? When he missed the two shots. Okay, so at the two-minute mark, Chris Dunn, there is...
Starting point is 01:54:51 You're talking about at the one-minute mark? No. It's before that. They're down eight. They're down nine. They're down 11. If you take them out
Starting point is 01:55:04 at any point... So he missed at 3 30 y'all was up y'all they were down 11 then Luca made it and then Dunn missed at 249 you want to take him out then the score is 96 107 when were they down five they were down five after Luka made a pass. What's the time score? Luka made a pass. They missed it. They came down, shot a three. And then after the three, Luka came down and Youngfella stole it. How much time was on the clock when they were down five?
Starting point is 01:55:35 When they were down five, let's see. They got it to five off of Kawhi's three at 140. 140. Almost. So close. Kawhi's three gave it down to five right there, right? Mm-hmm. And then did Dunne not shoot the next two shots?
Starting point is 01:55:51 No. Bo didn't shot three. Got the offensive reround. Bogey, bogey. That's your cue. Bogey, bogey. Bogey, bogey. Shot a three, missed it, got the offensive rebound, passed to the Dunne.
Starting point is 01:56:03 Bogdan Bogdanovich for the underdue. Passed to the Dunne. He missed the three. He missed it, and then they got it again. And then full timeout. Who's Laker timeout? Probably went out of bounds. Was that a Laker timeout? Laker got the ball.
Starting point is 01:56:13 Laker got the ball. Yes. Came down. I think you got scored. Nope. You got to stop. Chris Dunn blocks LeBron James' shot. Yeah, LeBron.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Okay, comes down. All right, then to come down What was the next he shot it again did no? No, no, wait, oh, nope, so the down five Luca with 33 seconds the book left He steals the ball from Luke down five down five 30 seconds that he steals the ball from Luca and then that's the goaltend block You get the ball. I was the ball from Luka. And then that's the goaltend block. He get the ball back. That was the block. Not a goaltend, sir. And then Boggy Boggy shot a three with 15 seconds. No, Kawhi shot it.
Starting point is 01:56:50 Yeah. And then Dunn gets the offensive rebound. Yep. And then he passes to Boggy. Boggy misses. Yep. And then there's 15 seconds left. Zubac gets it.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Oh, now to see that one. Then they would just scramble for the ball when we got down. It had to be two minutes, three minutes left. But you see that. That's what I'm talking about. Look at that. Look what's with that., three minutes left. But you see that. But 3.30, but the problem is this. He got two steals. Look at the stuff he gets in it.
Starting point is 01:57:11 I'm not saying that that's not going to be the same. I'm saying you had to mitigate managing him and putting him in and taking him out just so you could get the offense. Four for 11 from three. So we asked the chat, we asked the chat, should LeBron be in the MVP discussion 74% said yes, let's shift over Let's shift over to Eastern Conference. We got to give the Celtics and Cavs
Starting point is 01:57:31 They're just do as well here on gives arena presented by underdog We'll before we do go ahead download the app use promo code Gil get up to $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special picker So captain Celtics met for the final time this season Friday. No, it's fine. I love you guys. Cavs and Celtics met for the final time this season Friday. Boston looking to gain some ground on the top seeded Cavs. Celtics were down two starters in Porzingis and Drew Holiday and managed to trick off a big lead as a result.
Starting point is 01:57:57 Let's take a look. So first quarter, Celtics cooking after adjacent Tatum three put the Celtics up by 22. You can see Tatum very emotional after the play. Told him to do what, Jason? Told him, get the F out of here, man. He told him, Jalen Brown as well. They both said, get the F out of here.
Starting point is 01:58:19 But Tatum and the Celtics had too much dip on their chip, and Donovan Mitchell and the Cavs responded accordingly. Spider led the Cavs with 41 points. God. In the win. Mitchell became the first Cavs player with four 30-point games against the Celtics in the same season since LeBron dated back in 2009-2010. There's Garland.
Starting point is 01:58:38 20 and 7 dimes. Evan Mobley put up a double-double. Oh, my Lord. Yeah, that's Spider, V-Caps number one. Come here. Uh-oh. No, with the left. It is.
Starting point is 01:58:49 With the left. I'm not going to say that. Don't say nothing. But we got to give Tatum some love as well. Tatum did his job for the Celtics, dropping 46.16 rebounds, nine dimes in the game. Tatum had 39-7 in the first half alone. Jalen Brown was cooking as well, 37 points and five rebounds, nine dimes in the game. Tatum had 39 and seven in the first half alone. Jalen Brown was cooking as well, 37 points and five rebounds. Derek White was the only other Celtic
Starting point is 01:59:10 to score in double figures with 16 points. Damn. It was a back and forth game, but they came into the garden, did their thing. Shout out, Moby, that double-double, 17-12. Oops, Ryder. Oh. They taking turns on that white man. That's what you do when turns on that white man.
Starting point is 01:59:27 That's what you do when you see that white man. I said, you got two of them in there, you shitty. You ain't. They doing it. They doing it. Technically. Come here. Look, everybody on that white man. Come here.
Starting point is 01:59:36 Come here. They say he's a good defender. Yeah, he is. Shut up the fuck. That's what they say. He's a good defender. In Boston. Go get him.
Starting point is 01:59:45 He's a good defender in Boston. Go get get him. He's a good defender in Boston. Go get him. Go get him. Utah. Hauser. Put a nice ball on Black History Month. Put a nice ball back in. Go get him.
Starting point is 01:59:52 So that was the Cavs' ninth straight win, even the season series with the Celtics 2-2. Cavs beat the Blazers Sunday to make it 10 straight, but let's get back to the game Friday. What did the Cavs show you in their comeback win against the Celtics in Boston? They good. They're pretty good, dude. I mean, as a collective man, like, I mean, you're down 25-3. That could break a young team, right? A young, inexperienced team.
Starting point is 02:00:17 But, you know, they've been playing well together all year long. And the fact that they added DeAndre Hunter from Atlanta, who we don't know why he was on the bench averaging 819 coming off the bench. The fact that they added him to that roster, right? If you bring him off the bench, that's firepower. If you put him in the starting lineup, that's going to be hard to guard also. also so I mean but what happened here is what makes what is what makes Celtics beatable they shoot so many threes that they shoot themselves out anything from 10 makes 20 makes when you're shooting 50 to 60 shots your
Starting point is 02:01:08 People making layups and free throws gonna fuck you up So both teams shot 39 threes in the game both teammates 17 17 for 39 for both sides Like we mentioned no poor Zingas. No drew holiday. I'm not getting a full sample size of This Celtics roster Sam Houser actually got the start. That was the way gentlemen. I believe you guys were critical of You have 23 to 5 I I mean 25 to 3. You know, it's just you shoot yourself out sometimes. Or it could just be good coaching from the other side, letting the, like you said, punchers, you got a puncher's chance and you punch yourself out.
Starting point is 02:01:38 Because you live by the three, die by the three. What was the one adjustment that the Cavs made in the second half? I don't know if you guys watched the game, but I did. They played the three. What was the one adjustment that the Cavs made in the second half? I don't know if you guys watched the game, but I did. Yeah, they played the zone. Forced some shoot-threes, yeah. Shout out your former favorite team, the Celtics, a left and free agency to go to. Very simple. Shout out to my homeboy, Marcus Collins. You know, he's a Cleveland diehard fan. We break down the game when we watch Cleveland play, because they deserve a lot
Starting point is 02:02:02 more credit. So you look at the adjustments, and you say, all right, you play a 3-2 matchup. They're going to get theirs. We know the good players are going to get theirs, but everybody else is going to move around. We're going to let them shoot themselves out. And that's without the other two players that can defensively, you know, shake things up, because they would probably, they would flash Drew Holiday. He would play the middle. But what they would do on offense, on defense, that Garland crossing everything. Hey, you look at they took advantage of the mismatch.
Starting point is 02:02:30 But it wouldn't be no mismatch, though. It'd be Holiday right there. Would it? It'd be Holiday right there. It's still a challenge. It would be Holiday right there. I'm still Darius Garland. It would be Holiday.
Starting point is 02:02:40 I'm still me. I'm still Donovan Mitchell. I don't care who y'all is. We flowing like that. If I'm them, I'm saying we've Mitchell. I don't care who y'all is. We flowing like that. If I'm them, I'm saying we've been number one all year. Y'all ain't been talking about us. But y'all. I don't want to hear it.
Starting point is 02:02:51 What's the, is it a split, two and two? They split the season series. Y'all giving them all the credit. You got one off a lot. You giving them all the credit. Cavs have a seven and a half game lead in Adamsville. And Cavs shot better from the field. But every time the Cavs beat them. Boston shot better all the credit. Cavs have a seven and a half game lead in Adam Silver's Eastern Conference. And then Cavs shot better from the field. But every time the Cavs beat them, the time they beat them, Brown wasn't playing.
Starting point is 02:03:11 This time, Holiday and Przinga's not playing. Before that, Donovan Mitchell wasn't playing. As he played every damn game. No, he didn't. No, he didn't. He didn't play the last time they played. Mitchell played in all four games this season. Damn, come on, man.
Starting point is 02:03:23 Against the Boston Celtics? Stop. When was he just off? Blazers game on Sunday if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, he's a blazers the blood I quickly scan through They were down in the game proceeded to come Who was out for the Cavs though that nobody nobody and it was a hard game. Oh That's it was during the trade they had just made the trade those players didn't play the traded player that was um when they traded the aang they traded yeah the hunter wasn't there to play that game i know but that's a big they didn't
Starting point is 02:03:57 have brown and now they ain't got for zingas and holiday when they had all they played they won by 20. listen i said the same thing. It's like they're playing chess right now. Yeah, they are playing chess. I think so, too. I was like, look, they both feel the same way. Like, yeah, we ain't gonna take
Starting point is 02:04:11 too much credit because we beat them without their other two guys, but we'll take it. We'll take it. But we number one. Fuck all the dumb shit. But that happens
Starting point is 02:04:18 when you're a team like that. They've been number one all year. But that's not what the Warriors did. No, but when the Celtics was number one the last. But that's not what the Warriors did. Which one? They know when they're going to make it to the big thing. The last two years when the Celtics was number one. You rest your prayers throughout the year. Y'all gave credit to the Celtics because they threw out the whole year undeniable number one. Right now, that's Cleveland.
Starting point is 02:04:39 But I'm just saying, you know, though. But we're not giving credit. We talk more about the Lakers than we do about the Cleveland Cavaliers. Lakers are more interesting. Let's just keep it a buck. Because when we talk about the Cavs, even Cavs fans don't watch it. Damn, man. We're just talking about winning basketball.
Starting point is 02:04:54 Still puts his blindfold on. Marcus doesn't get spanked. We got to talk about how they dominated the league. They on a 10-game winning streak. 10 games. And before that, they was on a 16-game winning streak. They get the same talk as OKC. They get the same talk as OKC.
Starting point is 02:05:09 That's the, that's, that's what, 8 to 16-game winning streak, one of the most in the NBA? So 15, I believe it was a Cavs franchise record started the season 15-0.
Starting point is 02:05:17 I mean, come on, man. These guys on the road. They get the same talk. They're on the road. Shout out Kenny Atkinson. 10 talk as OKC. They don't have Donovan Mitchell in the...
Starting point is 02:05:28 Oh, he first team this year. I think he was like seventh in the MVP ladder. Seventh in the MVP. So they Jason Tatum-ing, huh? Yeah, for sure. Do you feel like Donovan Mitchell deserves more love for what he's been able to accomplish this season? The best player on the best team
Starting point is 02:05:41 in Adam Silver's National Basketball Association. It was five last year. I don't care about stats now. It's all about stats. It's always been about stats. No, you can't say that. It's always been about stats until... It's always been about stats until Kobe came along.
Starting point is 02:05:59 Then it was like, oh, no, we ain't accepting stats no more. That's what happened. Shad, do you agree or disagree with that? When Jordan was winning... He's saying like a 96? No, when he became on his own and everybody knew what he was going for. I'm going for them MVPs because I don't got none. Move out.
Starting point is 02:06:19 Those two dudes. And they're like... Steve Nash. We don't want him to do this for a while. We don't want him to do this for a while. That's what I was thinking. What, Steve Nash? I'm going to agree. Yeah, they gave it to Steve two times and it want him to do this for a while. We don't want him to do this for a while. I was thinking. What, Steve Nash? I'm going to agree.
Starting point is 02:06:26 Yeah, they gave it to Steve two times, and it had nothing to do with stats. Not well-techniced. Not necessarily. It was still team improvement. They won like 16-something games, 19 games. It's like the best player on the best team. And then it went all the way to 65. It's never always been about that.
Starting point is 02:06:39 That just started in the early 2000s. That wasn't in the 90s or the 80s. Motherfucker averaged 30-something, got them an MVP. Was the Timberwolves number one in the West when he got MVP? That was in the early 2000s. Call him along. Call him along. Charles Barkley.
Starting point is 02:06:58 Charles Barkley. He's always been about the number one team. Number one team and the best player. So, Donald Mitchell averaged. I could show them the number one team, too, when they took it from him. They just didn't want him to have three, four in a row. Isaiah Thomas. So, they gave it to the number one team in the West.
Starting point is 02:07:13 Was it Carmelone? They gave it to the most improved team, in a sense. Tim Duncan. Like when Steve Nash won. Look at the Suns' record the year before he got there. Dirk Nowinski. And then he got there. They won 65 games. It was number one. Dirk was number one when he got it. I gave it to Kobe when he was my wife
Starting point is 02:07:29 What year was that early what I'm talking to? With me Did Kobe become was the whole Barkley Kobe become selfish in 2000 in the middle. I said that's who they started penalizing and started using winning that year. So everybody you're naming after that is coming after this year. No, come along, Charles Barkley. Because their team improved.
Starting point is 02:07:55 I don't, their team too. When did Kobe become selfish? No, when I said when he decided he was going to go on his, wait, wait, what? You said when Kobe decided to be selfish. Yeah, when he got rid of Shaq and he wanted to go for scoring and awards. And they was like, no, we're not going to do that and give it to him. That's why they penalized him. And then they only gave him the MVP when his team started winning.
Starting point is 02:08:15 That's when they started that bullshit. So it was to his point. They give it to the winning team. No, so was Utah number one when Karl Malone got it? In the West? Was Charles Barkley number one when he got it? Was fucking Jordan number one in the East when he got it? Utah 64 and 18, the year that Karl Malone got his MVP award.
Starting point is 02:08:45 The 97th. Steph Curry. What was the record before? The previous season? Mm-hmm. They were 55-27. 55-27. Who was number one in 87-88 season?
Starting point is 02:08:57 Who was that? Bring it up to here. It started adjusting because they didn't want to just keep giving MVPs to the guy who was doing that. And they started using team. The team got to be good. That's how it started. No. I think Larry Bird was the one.
Starting point is 02:09:16 And then when Jordan was going to get his three. Kareem and Magic was number one in the West. It's always been that. So I don't know about this stat shit. It's always been that, so I don't know about the stats. It's always been that? Unless you just tell me something different, I don't know. Jordan was number... Back in 1965.
Starting point is 02:09:31 Wasn't Jordan... Wasn't Michael Jordan the leading scorer ten years? He won three three-peats, right? Or two three-peats. Two three-peats, right? So he's MVP's MVP MVP and then the third MVP his team is number one's most dominant and they didn't they give it to someone else then his second three they give it to the number one they give
Starting point is 02:09:56 it to Barkley and the way and Barkley came sons wasn't that number one before they... Mmm. They were number two. Improvement. Improvement. Just like Steve Nash. Yeah. Oh, shit. Okay. Damn. Damn. Keep it going. I'm gonna prove your point. So, actually, Sons was, I think, two. I think Blazers was one and Sons was two, because I know a lot about Charles Barkley
Starting point is 02:10:21 because he does a lot of... So this was... So they won... He does a lot of what, Gil? about Charles Barkley because he does a lot of... So this was... So they won... He does a lot of what, guys? So Charles Barkley... So the Suns, 55 wins, 54 wins, 55 wins, 53 wins, right? Barkley got their what year? What are they number one? 53 wins.
Starting point is 02:10:42 So they won 55, 54, 55, 53. And then when Charles Barkley got there, they won 62. Is that an improvement or not? Yeah. Improvement in number one. Yeah. So his improvement from 53 wins over there was more than Jordan's. Wink, wink. They just didn't want to give it to him.
Starting point is 02:11:03 Wink, wink. But he came to the number two Yes, they do number one teams and they gave it to him not to give Jordan his third so he wouldn't be magic So it was two number one teams, right One in the East one in the West. Okay. Yeah, and one in the West said Better Rick. Yeah. Fuck. Wait, wait. What?
Starting point is 02:11:28 I don't know. I don't know. I was just saying something. No, I think I heard you. So let me hold that. You said Better Rick. I think I heard him. Better Rick.
Starting point is 02:11:37 I heard him. Said Better Rick. Let me throw you something. Let me give you something. Cause you're starving. That brother's starving. Let me throw you something. God damn. Paolo, you know what to do. Okay. Yeah, That brother's starving. Let me throw you something, God damn. Paolo, you know what to do.
Starting point is 02:11:46 Yeah, that brother's starving. You just threw it out there. You hit it. You hit it. I know what you mean. They had 57 wins. They had the bigger jump. They had 57 wins.
Starting point is 02:11:56 You had the bigger jump. Let's talk about another former... That's a nice one. They had the biggest jump. Let's talk about another former MVP before we wrap up this show today. So as some of us suggested and expected,
Starting point is 02:12:05 the Sixers finally shut down Joel Embiid for the remainder of the season on Friday. Embiid appeared in just 19 games a season after playing 39 regular season games last season. Sixers were 8-11 in the games that Embiid played this season. So former MVP averaged 24 points, 8 rebounds, 5 assists in those 19 games while putting up the lowest field goal
Starting point is 02:12:24 in three-point percentages of his career. Embiid has played in 452 of a possible 902 games in his 11 seasons in the league. So before this season, Embiid signed a three-year, $193 million max extension with the Sixers that will keep him with the team through 2029. But just looking ahead, he's dealt with injuries throughout his career. I mentioned the last two seasons in particular. Was playing at an MVP level
Starting point is 02:12:50 last season. Came back for the playoffs. Missed the bulk of this season. How much confidence do you have in Embiid being able to return to an MVP level? None.
Starting point is 02:13:04 Damn. Just get rid of Philly. Not a near nutin- Throw the whole Philadelphia away. A fine city. Nah, it ain't. Not how Benny said it. And people not coming back. Ben Simmons, done. I mean, he was fucked up. This ain't over there.
Starting point is 02:13:12 But I'm just saying, look at the history of Philly. What did Ben do? Let's think of the history of Philly. That's what I'm just saying. This is- Ever since that AI shit. Yeah. Little ass.
Starting point is 02:13:20 I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm history of Philly. That's what I'm just saying. Ever since that AI shit. Yeah. Little ass statues outside, man.
Starting point is 02:13:33 This shit ain't right, man. Philly cheesesteak, the only thing they got. The AI little statue. I know they have a bunch of little statues. Hold on, hold on. The Eagles just won. He should have been big. He should have been big.
Starting point is 02:13:43 The Eagles, we just won. It's a bite-sized statue Philly was doing bad like you can't say this is part of Philly. Yeah. Yeah Like this bad started before the Super Bowl right the Super Bowl is like yeah, they just announced that he's done, but he was done in October. That motherfucker was done training camp when they was in the Bahamas. Yeah, he shouldn't have. We've been saying that.
Starting point is 02:14:12 He shouldn't have been playing, bro. Shouldn't have been playing at all. And the things, he would miss a stretch of games, come back, play 30-something games. Yeah, that's a waste of time. It's a waste that we have time. When we were talking about this summer, we was like, nah, don't go to the U.S. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Well, you was. I give you a supportive of u.s. Oh You were
Starting point is 02:14:26 Could have won it without it Without him, but he did he didn't contribute. He did good again. So did not he did good again show kids That's where he could you did yoga. She did something against your kids. We needed him. He did good one game I don't we hit this for your service. We was under attack by the American crowd. And that's what LeBron mean, because LeBron just texted me and told me to bring that shit up. Right?
Starting point is 02:14:52 For the first time in USA history, men's basketball was the only team out in another country being rooted against. That's what he means. Right? You got motherfuckers in here. How much you think they can lose by? They about to lose. Yoke is about to do this.
Starting point is 02:15:19 Yoke is about to do that. Almost lost to Sudan. Oh, they going to get beat by Sudan? I've never in my life have ever seen America for the first time root against or put even the idea of it. Guess why? America used to be so proud of our people going there. When I was a little kid and the 92 team team came they made me feel so proud about the team I bought all the jerseys
Starting point is 02:15:48 Then I bought some of the WNBA jerseys cuz they made them seem so amazing Do you care why now now is like I'd about the losing him do you call this up? Huh care why at all? I don't care why this is I don't give a fuck this ain't the NBA narrative This is the world. Yeah, the world narrative, right? You had to do a redemption team. Cool. Why? I don't care why.
Starting point is 02:16:11 You have to because you had to redeem yourself. You did. But they sounded great. So if you had to redeem yourself, that means that the other guys on the other side, like, shit, you ain't that tough. Now we got to put the redeem team together. Hey, Cole, listen. Show the world where we at again.
Starting point is 02:16:29 Please. Come on. I got you. Let's do it. Let's put us back where we need to be. Let's be feared again. Hey, man, they got them and him? Okay.
Starting point is 02:16:40 Woo, okay. So after that goes, you're like, why are they not scared like they was before? That's not what I'm asking. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying what you're asking. I'm saying, why are they not afraid? Okay. Why are they not afraid?
Starting point is 02:16:56 I'm asking, why are we talking so much shit about our team? You're saying that the Americans are not... American public was talking shit about them. We shouldn't be close to anybody. We shouldn't be close to Germany. We shouldn't be close to South Sudan. We shouldn't be close to none of these teams. A whole team got popular just because they got close to them.
Starting point is 02:17:18 They were celebrating. What whole team? South Sudan. Let's go, let's go, let's go. They're not supposed to be nowhere near. I don't give a fuck. We do. Why are go. Let's go. Let's go. They're not supposed to be nowhere near. I don't give a fuck. We do. Why are we even?
Starting point is 02:17:26 We do. The American people are like, why are we only winning by two points? And then you call them little Africans. I'm American. I didn't like nobody. That is the point. And they said I took that personal. I don't like none of them.
Starting point is 02:17:44 It's America. You said it's basketball. You said you, nigga. It's America. You said it's basketball. You said you like everybody. It's America at this point. Nigga's from Wakanda. You said you don't hate the internationals. You said you love the heroes. I love them now. You just said I hate them all.
Starting point is 02:17:56 I said it's America versus the world. I'm choosing America. It's Wakanda. I'm not giving the opportunity or the thought that another team, another country can beat us because some other countries is rooting for their people. We're the only motherfuckers that hated our team. The team not supposed to allow the other team to be close. The first game, what was the narrative then?
Starting point is 02:18:18 First game, the first game, what was the narrative? Why did Tatum and Blythe? Why didn't he play? What's wrong with that? 92? 92? Who didn't play the first game in 92? Who was on the team? We didn't give a fuck. Because we had Michael Jordan on the team. That's who we gave a fuck about.
Starting point is 02:18:35 We didn't give a fuck about who was not playing when you got Black Jesus on the court. Are you serious? Now, I'm glad you said that. But they still talk about I. Joe Thomas not playing football. He wasn't part of the team. I'm talking about the team. They rooted for the team.
Starting point is 02:18:52 Listen, the team was, the team positivity was so great, y'all don't even know Michael Jordan had a horrible go at it. Because you couldn't talk bad about Michael Jordan. Fuck. Thank you. God damn bad about Michael Jordan. Fuck. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:19:06 God damn, you know that. Everybody know that. Thank you. So we're not talking about LeBron. We're talking about why the coach didn't play Jason Statham. That don't mean shit about what we're calling it. So we're rooting against him. There's more views.
Starting point is 02:19:17 You can see it on your phone, everything now. Nigga, so this is exactly what I'm saying. We have a team out there. It probably was someone finished talking. A team that's trying to win gold for us. We out here with narratives. Who didn't play? We creating a bad atmosphere around a team that's representing us.
Starting point is 02:19:36 Instead of them saying, yeah, we won by 20. That's not rooting. You said rooting against them. We are talking about. I didn't root against them because they didn't play Jason Taylor. Bitch, I said us as a whole. You said we rooting against them. But how are you speaking for the whole?
Starting point is 02:19:49 How are you speaking for the whole? We're talking about everybody. How are you speaking for everybody? Rooting. Every sports that we're talking about, everybody. A narrative of Jason Tatum not playing created what in the locker room? Nothing. Created what in the world?
Starting point is 02:20:04 They still won the gold. It didn't create nothing what in the world? They still won the gold. It didn't create nothing. In the world. It didn't create nothing. You don't think that was the most negative output that we've ever seen in their career? To the Boston Celtics and Jason Tatum fans, yes. Everybody else didn't give a fuck because they favorite players won. They favorite players thrived.
Starting point is 02:20:20 I want you to think about every single game. Think about what I'm talking about. When they talked about swimming, whoever came in first, second, third, no one gave a shit. We cheered. We cheered for the medals everyone's getting. Think about every game that the U.S. played. It was a negative if they're going to win narrative. When they won, oh, they barely won,
Starting point is 02:20:47 they might not win the next one. Gil, what does that mean? They won the gold medal. What was the narrative after the gold medal? What was the narrative? I know you know it. What did they say after we won gold? What did they say?
Starting point is 02:20:58 Barely. And then what? What was that? Steph Curry had to save us? They said- What is the... What is the... Are people not allowed to say what they want?
Starting point is 02:21:09 Can we not make up that narrative? Can we not say that's the reason why? Tell us what we need to say so we... Can you text everybody what we need to be saying? A group chat... Fuck, because we tired of you attacking us for not saying what you want us to say. Just text... It's communication, man. It's like in a relationship. Baby, baby, baby, you want me to say what you want us to say. Just take it. It's communication, man. It's like in a relationship.
Starting point is 02:21:26 Baby, baby, baby, if you want me to say what you want me to say, just text me. I'm going to say the same thing. Fuck, bro. How many countries is there? A lot. So a lot, since we don't know what exactly. We should do what a lot of countries do for their team, right? But how do we know?
Starting point is 02:21:43 You know how the other a lot? He don't know. How do we know what the other countries doing? Some motherfuckers can't come back unless they win or they're going to get killed. Yeah. I see the niggas say, man, I got to live here in the US now. Can't go back.
Starting point is 02:21:55 I can't go back. End his cancer. End his cancer. Say, now, I'm a citizen. I can't go back to Turkey? I'm from Portland now. What type of nigga want to live in Portland and can't go back to see his family?
Starting point is 02:22:04 Where? Portland? You need to live in Portland and he can't go back to see his family? Where? Portland? Where he live in? That's America. Come on, man. I thought he had to live here. Because he can't go back to Turkey. He don't want to eat turkey.
Starting point is 02:22:14 Oh, he don't want to even eat turkey. Yeah, nigga, he can't. They say you can't eat turkey neither. You can't even eat turkey, bro. Motherfucker can't even have a Thanksgiving. And he's in America. Yeah, this shit exists for real, man. Don't even fix your mouth. Don't be doing that, bro. Motherfuckers can't even have a Thanksgiving and he's in America. Yeah, this shit exists for real, man.
Starting point is 02:22:26 Don't even fix your mouth. Don't be doing that, man. I throw you a lob, you throw it out of bounds. Do not dunk that shit. That's what y'all do when you throw a lob.
Starting point is 02:22:32 Do not dunk that bitch. You've been doing the wrong shit lately. You've been doing between the legs double homing that bitch. You're supposed to throw it out of bounds
Starting point is 02:22:40 and turn it over. I don't like it. So we asked to chat as per this original discussion it out of bounds and turn it over. I don't like it. So we asked the chat, as per this original discussion, with Joel and Bede being shut down for the remainder of the season, we asked the chat, will Bede return to an MVP level? That's what the question was? Yeah, how did you pay all that money and you're in rebuild season now? 83% said no. You paid Paul George. Maxie.
Starting point is 02:23:03 Maxie and you rebuilding. Tobias Harris. Did they extend? They extended your wills, right? They gave them an extension, right? And you're rebuilding. Think about that. You just paid Kelly too. Yeah. And then for Miami, you paid everybody. Traded him. Traded him. They traded, but they paid him at first. I mean, it started off as we about to win the championship and then, They traded him. They traded him. They traded him. But they paid him at first. To the Mets. For Quinn Brown. I mean, it started off as, we about to win the championship, and then, uh... Like, you did everything you thought the Eagles would do.
Starting point is 02:23:34 But to Sixers fans' credits, they were not rolling. I talked to them. I was in Philly before the season. Oh, yeah, they were not rolling at all. I was like, y'all excited about it? Like, nah, we are not rolling right now. Who would have been excited? You start off the season.
Starting point is 02:23:44 This is before the season We started this is Paul George. We got a big you're starting off the season telling us. Yeah, we might play 41 You know, you know back to back Yeah, he ain't gonna start at beginning this but that's I know but doesn't say Paul George back-to-back right there Oh George got hurt. Yeah, like the second preseason. Oh, preseason. He ain't got hurt doing the Lexus slide. No, no, but what I'm saying is, but that's what I'm saying. This is it.
Starting point is 02:24:09 Now, if you are a betting man, right, and you know karma, right, you just seen this freak accident, ooh, then he's not playing. Some should have said, you know what, next motherfucking sign, all this shit gets shut down So my young fella hamstring my number young my History Tyrus magic toys tick-tock his hamstring hamstring and in my tick-tock over here rookie. Yeah, rookie out
Starting point is 02:24:37 You know what? Hey, I mean shut it down. Come on. Hey Everything gets shut down. Hey here bring all NBA players. Y'all sit down. Bring the G League up. Y'all play. I'm not risking nothing else happening. They got to bring Delilah's back. All them strippers they had back then up there, that's why they was moving good back then. Think about how many chicks came out of Delilah's.
Starting point is 02:25:00 Don't think about it, actually. But listen to me. Yeah. Huh? All right. Don't you think about it actually They better not be having it to me daddy sent me the Addy, goddammit. I need to eat it. And that was the only place you didn't need to hate. Right? You didn't need to hate it.
Starting point is 02:25:31 There, everybody like that. Damn. All of them. This is a group. They got to go back to eating lunch at Delilah's. That's why. This is like the All-Star game. With that in mind, let's move on to mostly fans presented by underdog. He was mostly fans
Starting point is 02:25:50 Coming up coming up next That was only thing yeah, New York Wow, I want to know I want a New York. That's some sprinkles! Sprinkles! They just keep coming out! More water! I ran out on New York. We got a pass going.
Starting point is 02:26:18 They got a pass going. They didn't have no Trixies out there. They didn't have no Trixies. No, no. Man. They didn't have players clubs. And it was a layup, too. And it was a layup. What?
Starting point is 02:26:33 It was a damn layup. Ladies and gentlemen, before we- They didn't have no cinnamon and spice. No, no. You kept them names. Before I ask the Mosey fans questions. Now listen, that's when you know the strip club good. When they give you your name.
Starting point is 02:26:46 You can't come in and pick your name. Talking about my name. Yeah, you know. You got like. Cinnamon. My name's Cinnamon. Yeah, you got to earn your name. Honestly, I don't know what y'all talking about.
Starting point is 02:26:56 I go to gentlemen's clubs. I don't go to gentlemen's clubs. I don't go to gentlemen's clubs. Their names are their names. The regular, I was going to say, they got regular ass names. The government names. Ashley, I'm Angel. I, Ashley, Ashley's Ashley. I'm Cynthia.
Starting point is 02:27:07 Ashley's Ashley. What's your real name? She stays down the street to the right. Right. Shelby, yep, she's there too. Down the street to the left. You know what I'm saying? Shelby to the left.
Starting point is 02:27:16 Wherever you want to go, they're gentlemen. You got to be a gentleman. Ain't no Shelby coming to the stage. To the stage. Go ahead and toil it. But it's better than you think. It's betterirl it. But it's better than you think. It's better than you think. It's better than you think.
Starting point is 02:27:30 Yeah, all that. All that. Tuck in the motherfucker. Watch her twirl it too. Slow motion twirl. Woo! Woo! That's what got me.
Starting point is 02:27:38 That's what got me. I said, that's it. That's it. Shelby and her motherfucker, her ass and her back is one. Yo, man. That's like, flew her whole thing. No, Yo, man. That's what she need me for. I'm to separate the back and the ass. I'm a construction worker.
Starting point is 02:27:51 I make sure she get that motherfucking curve. That curvature. She gonna do this shit. He out there like, yeah. Oh, man. I'm gonna break that in. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, break that in. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, that's that drywall. She got that drywall.
Starting point is 02:28:08 She shaking everything. You know your OnlyFans right there. She going to get up and pass out. She going to get up and pass out. Like, what's wrong with you? Your OnlyFans. She fucking dizzy. Shit.
Starting point is 02:28:16 Hell yeah. If you enjoyed this conversation, please download the underdog app. Put a spoon in her mouth! Give her some milk, goddamn. What you talking about? Shit. You better leave Ashley alone. I'm going to tell her daddy.
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Starting point is 02:28:46 What happened to Mosey fans? That was it. I was attempting. I want to get this person their money. Giveaway two, man. So we got a question from Underdog user AllStyle5. AllStyle, I don't know. Who is more scary, playoff Jimmy or playoff Kawhi?
Starting point is 02:29:00 More scary, playoff Jimmy or playoff Kawhi? What you got, Rashad? Giveaway for the little Larry giveaway. You guys are abstaining from answering this Mosey fans question? I'm not asking that shit, man, come on. Can you act like I asked the question? One-one, right? Who won the championship, man?
Starting point is 02:29:14 Hey, Josiah, one MVP point. Josiah, are you talking back? The one that got two finals MVP. Are you talking back, Josiah? I don't understand. He said what he said. The man that got two finals MVP's. Are you talking back, Josiah? I don't understand. He said what he said. The man that got two finals MVP's. As you know, very well, Rashad.
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Starting point is 02:30:33 I'm just going to be a hater. Y'all should just wait until the championship game, and then y'all just ask for games. It's up to March 24th. Oh, okay. Dude, I think that... You seen that shit? I mean, that's just... March 24th.
Starting point is 02:30:46 Shut off date. Shut off date. And I picked a seat. I get to pick the seat. March 21st. You got 10 days, motherfucker. 10 days to pick your game. Hurry up.
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Starting point is 02:33:04 You've got a thousand000 coming from Underdog. We appreciate all of y'all. Thank you to everybody on the show. Thank you for Gil for returning to his real show. Out there for Landry out there last Friday. And I spent $700 on these glasses to wear them for 10 minutes. And you're going to leave them right there, and they're going to end up at my crib.
Starting point is 02:33:23 I didn't do that. Yes, you did. Oh, the Balenciagas. The Balenciagas. for 10 minutes. And you gonna leave them right there and they're gonna end up at my crib. Remember that? I didn't do that. Yes, you did. I lied. The Balenciagas. The Balenciagas. I didn't do that. I was on your phone.
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Starting point is 02:33:40 We will see y'all tomorrow.

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