Gil's Arena - LeBron James PROVES Once Again He Is The King Of The NBA

Episode Date: February 29, 2024

LeBron James PROVES Once Again He Is The King Of The NBA as Gilbert Arenas, The Gil's Arena Crew & Special Guest Symba react to LeBron willing the Los Angeles Lakers to a big comeback win over the Los... Angeles Clippers, showing that the Lakers should always be considered a threat in the West with King James on the court. They also discuss Chet Holmgren's record breaking rookie season and debate if he and Victor Wembanyama are singlehandedly changing what it means to be a big man in the NBA before giving their take on the report that the NBA is reviewing if the game is tilting toward offense and give their ideas on how to fix things. Finally, the breakdown the newest additions to the Team USA Olympic squad and discuss who will be getting snubbed when we head to Paris this summer. Please consider giving us a like and subscribe!!!! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Follow Symba Here - https://www.instagram.com/therealsymba?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:03:22 LeBron James Is Still King!! 0:10:47 Gil Shuts Down The LeBron Steroid Allegations 0:20:14 Howd It Feel To Be In The Zone?? 0:23:07 Rapper Symba Enters The Arena 0:30:56 Are The Lakers Still A Threat In The West 0:36:58 NBA Rule Changes To Curb Offense 0:46:24 Still In Favor Of Drafting Younger Players? 1:04:40 The Problems With NBA Coaching 1:10:38 Shaq's Comments on Superteams 1:13:50 Team USA Roster Is Taking Shape 1:44:48 MostlyFans 2:05:15 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 They didn't even fucking know me. This is my store. This is what I was doing when I was back living. Y'all don't know what goes on in practice or the locker room. Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fan. It's the What World! Hey, got my head beating yesterday, too. Beat it, I'm pissed. Everybody saw the basketball games last night. Shit, man.
Starting point is 00:01:56 You said the basketball games? Minus the S. Oh, yeah. Zilla ready? For some. For some. For some. Bullshit. We some. For some.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Bullshit. We were in the building. Appreciate you, SeatGeek. Definitely. You know, certain 39-year-old is still him. Yeah. Fight all the haters. Here we go, look at this shit.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Come on, man. It's gonna be a good day in your room. Do the introduction and let's get this shit going. I left before the wings and shit came. Shit. Boneless wings did show up. Yeah, I. Do the introduction and let's get this dick on. Boneless wings did show up. Yeah, I left before the wings came, before the game got good. It was up a dub.
Starting point is 00:02:32 I'm like, this shit over. Little did you know. You thought. Yeah, I did. I wasn't the only one. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. As as always we got the legend Gilbert arenas here with us Reppin for the watch dad's appreciate you Some great gear we got Rashad McCants
Starting point is 00:02:51 with the swag for press Celtics let's do it. No, we're not acknowledging. Yeah, Joe when yesterday no acknowledgement They don't play you know about this other Jersey underneath. Yeah, I do man. I already know we'll see it on the show It's out here that fucking haters out here man. I already know. We'll see it on the show. They don't sell them shits out here. Fucking haters out here, man. I got to go order my shit on fucking Amazon. Three inches? Amazon.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Oh. I seen a black dude with a Larry Bird jersey on a Venice beach one time. I was like, it's not going to end well for you, brother. Not going to end well? Not going to end well for you. But you were shooting that bitch, though. And we got Kenya Mark back here on the couch with us. What's up with you, K-Mark? You all right?
Starting point is 00:03:25 You good? I'm good, K. Okay. Just making the couch with us. What's up with you, K-Mart? You all right? You good? I'm good, Kel. Okay. Just making sure. All right. What's happening? What's happening? That's your game.
Starting point is 00:03:32 You got to get that every time, bro. What's happening? What's happening? It worked out too well for him last night. That's it. Oh, that's it? That's it, yeah. What happened?
Starting point is 00:03:40 Oh, I got some. No, see, that was on the one hand, but I got a little joy in another way in the basketball game so At home to get my career, hmm, yeah. Hey, yeah favorite. Yeah Yeah, it's gonna be one of them days, ladies and gentlemen. Listen, man, like I said, I didn't start this. I'm going to finish it, though. So here's what's cracking in the arena today.
Starting point is 00:04:14 LeBron showed why he's still the king with a big win over the Clippers, but are the Lakers still a threat in the West? The NBA is in the midst of an offensive explosion, but does the league need to do something to help the defense? And the Team USA roster is taking shape, but who's getting loved and who's getting snubbed? Some of these gentlemen in this photo right here are not going to be here. To quote the great Magic Johnson. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy.
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Starting point is 00:05:10 Mm-hmm. The other three got a shot. Mm-hmm. I was looking at something else. I was trying to figure out why Ant-Man got so much Nike on. Mm. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I mean, you wear the shoes and this, right? You wear regular white socks All right, you don't got the Nike band on he put an extra Nike. Oh, man. We can't be doing this man stripes over checks You know, huh stripes over check. Okay I know I know you excited about being on the team, but you should gotta think about you Your shoe. It's not up to Adidas. Yeah, cause James take that thing to the next level.
Starting point is 00:05:47 James just fold it. Yeah, fold it. Fold the top part down. You had the headband on, like your elbow pad. Like, come on, dawg. Did you get paid extra for that shit? Hell no. So why would you do it?
Starting point is 00:06:00 Paid extra for what? For hiding it. Because... Why would you wear it? You selling, you got your own brand. Yeah, he got his own brand. Yeah, my shoe. So yeah, I'm not gonna do that. He got no, I ain't got my own hand, I ain't got my own... Shit, I got my own shit. I got my own leg there. I'm saying, but the socks got Nike on it though, but the high Nike socks got Nike on it.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Nah, come on. On the front. The Nike shit feel better. Nah, no it don't. It ain't itchy. That damn Dita shit be itchy, man. Yeah, it's itching alright. So No, they didn't should be it. See man. It's ditching. All right, it was the wallet In the wallet Pay me for my own bull direct deposit always on time Never issue never have to send the agent out there to find out what's going on Just wake up. It's there. I'm definitely a fan of the brand. It's there.
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Starting point is 00:09:19 Let me stretch. So some of the Gills Arena crew was in the building for what could be the final battle of LA between the Lakers and Clippers, sharing the same arena. As you know, the Clippers are moving to the Intuit Dome, tons of bathrooms. We appreciate you to SeatGeek for the plug and the $20 discount for using promo code GILL. You should do so as well. LeBron gave us another legendary performance to show the world that even at 39 years old, he's still him.
Starting point is 00:09:47 So the Lakers down 21 points in the fourth quarter in the game looking bleak like Memphis. King James put the Lakers on his back to engineer the largest fourth quarter comeback of his career. LeBron outscored the Clippers 19-16 in the fourth, finishing with 34.6 rebounds, 8 dimes. Also got his teammates involved. Shout out Rui. Shout out D-Lo. Shout out A.D. Yes, he was going loco, ladies and gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:10:14 You see it. Oh, a LeFuck U3? Why not? King, you lucky we wasn't here. In front of Jason. Yeah, we were there. You just got home super quick. Wink, wink.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Like D. Dave. And LeBron came up clutch in the fourth quarter, too, locking up Kawhi Leonard to an extent. Including a clutch defensive stop on Kawhi to steal the case. He stopped him to steal the win. Stopped him to steal the win. He just damn missed.
Starting point is 00:10:45 He just missed. Hell. Because of stellar defense. Went nowhere near that ball. Stellar defense. LeBron's aura. Yo, see this? Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Shout out to LeBron for being 39 and doing what he do, right? That's all we wanted to hear. But how many times they going to switch and have Daniel Tice on this man? We got to put this shit in the... Let's just... Talk about it. Come on, man. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:11:12 Whose fault is that? He deal with this fucking coaching and the people on the floor. Keep switching, picking roles, putting the five man on him and guys who can't... We talked about it. The five man is six foot now. Whose fault is that. We talked about it. The five man is six foot now. Whose fault is that? We talked about it. No one told them to have a lineup of everybody six, seven.
Starting point is 00:11:34 That's not our problem. That's not our problem. Everybody six, seven. Come on, man. That's not our problem. And let me ask y'all. This is just for shits and giggles, right? Mm-hmm So don't nobody want to try to run at him get the ball out of his hand he got it going mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:11:53 So don't nobody want to do nothing different y'all just gonna switch it and play him like this That's it. Let me see you make another They did their best just made four they did their best. Let me see you make five go ahead I mean, you know, that's how that's how it is. I rather you shoot from the logo before I let you drive to the lane You want you? You know what none of them long long distance Then right on the right on the three-point line soon as he called it to them in Was what you'd be like with 25 with 25 instead of 23
Starting point is 00:12:32 27 he was shooting him shits in the first half them shits was Yeah, so obviously I'm gonna let you click on that click like it but not at a minute. He making them We're gonna do nothing different. Okay, cool. Move on 15 15-0 run, and you gonna still let this nigga shoot. Exceptional defense by the Clippers. Offense was just a little bit better. Can't be blamed. I know. Happens.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Good job, Tyler. Great job. Happens. I mean, all those defensive players on the floor. This is the first time in about 20 games you motherfuckers come in here happy as shit, though. It's been tough. Glad to see y'all spirits up. Here's lifted. It's about time y'all motherfuckers come out.
Starting point is 00:13:04 They got the Wizards next. He talking about, yeah, Lakers! Oh, you would've been proud he had the jacket on last night. Glad to see y'all spirits up. All right, there's lifted about time. I'm gonna come in Say tomorrow. Yeah Lakers. Oh you'd have been proud. He had the jacket on With the Lakers jacket for his birthday, we saw him working a good mojo So Clippers were previously 235 and 0 when entering the fourth with a 19-point lead. Wait, what'd you say? They were 235-0 when entering the fourth quarter with a 19-plus point lead. Sheesh. Pull out the phone, Gil.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I would hope if you up 19 in the fourth, you should... I would hope so, too. And I would hope that if you extended that to 21... I mean, that is surprising, even if it's the Clippers. I mean, you... If you extended that to 21 in the fourth quarter that you would be able to hang on is those are Los Angeles Clippers Or the San Diego Which one cuz they ain't no damn way from them
Starting point is 00:13:58 94 all the way to about 2010 they was never up 19 like that. But they went under one. They didn't even... Yeah, I'm just saying, come on. It's just, you got to think about them teams that was in between this. I'm not sure that was the Los Angeles Clippers. Well, a lot of them teams, they never was up 19.
Starting point is 00:14:17 That's what I'm saying. I'm with you. Yeah. Y'all took a San Diego... San Diego, Buffalo, Brady. Yeah, the Brady OKR. We can go all the way back. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:26 But NBA teams have lost 866 consecutive games when faced with that 19-point deficit entering the fourth quarter. Not anymore. Lakers also won the season series 3-1 to atone for the sins of years past. After the game, LeBron talked about his crazy fourth quarter and being in the zone. Just in the zone. Just in the zone. I mean, I know we've kind of heard this, you know, what it feels like to be in the zone, you know, in our sport.
Starting point is 00:14:54 And that's just the feeling when you feel like everything that you put up is going in. And, you know, for me, I just kept it consistent. I wasn't taking ill-wised shots. I stayed in the course of the offense. When I was able to get the switches, I was able to give myself some space and get a couple more looks. So my teammates did a great job of continuing to find me. And then I just tried to dictate the tempo, dictate the game.
Starting point is 00:15:18 As we started making a run for it and getting the game closer and closer and closer. So it was just a zone that you just can't really describe it. You wish you could stay in it forever, but obviously it checks out, you know, as the game ends. But, you know, during this, you don't feel anything. You just have a superpower, I feel. I'm offended. Not by what he was saying. To be honest, I wasn't even listening. That's an important part of the process. No, no, what I'm saying is, we went through a whole dress code and image thing, right, and they can wear hats and buffer jackets now?
Starting point is 00:16:00 No, they can wear shit on the bench. Skullies. Motherfuckers can be on the bench wearing shades, hoodies. So this is just AI problem then. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. One man. Because I seen robes come into the arena. I'm like, yo.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Now some of the shit these dudes get away with wearing though, then sitting on the bench with this shit on. So it was just for AI. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah. Slow clap.
Starting point is 00:16:24 What we got? What place y'all in? I'm sure our place does not matter. I just want to know what place y'all in because he'd be in the zone for that one game. That one game zone is a good thing to be in, right? Hell yeah. The ninth place? The place is a social construct.
Starting point is 00:16:40 The place where you're supposed to be, right? Yeah. Let's get in the zone a little bit more often then. Yeah. Yeah. It's called in the zone a little bit more often then. Yeah, yeah. It's called a rope-a-dope. Let's get it. It's called a rope-a-dope. Hey, listen.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Good job, though. It's called a rope-a-dope. Good job. Good job. Let's get in the zone a little bit more often. I see you wearing the Celtics gear today. At 39? Huh?
Starting point is 00:17:04 At what? At 39. Shit. At whatever fucking age you're going to be. Often I see wearing the Celtics gear today. Did not huh at what in 39? Shit and whatever fucking age you gonna be I'm just saying if you if you a defender in your Early 20s and you're a defensive player and you let a 39 year old Get off on you. It's something about your pride. I was a PJ I know I was a PJ PJ. No, I know I played against a 39 year old before. What was his name, Gil? Michael Jordan. And what did you do to Michael Jordan? Gave him all of 41. What'd he have? He got all of it. He got all of 41. You know how he was on the court? All of 41.
Starting point is 00:17:38 All of it. Uh-huh. And then he went down to LA Kobe gave his dad's all of 55 I'm just saying it was elder abuse back. I'm just saying like, you know He's 39 the fact that like I can't let y'all live on this one. How much you know, it's I'm with you, but they saying it's a different 39 LeBron is on some different what they call it new Yeah, they've been called a new juice Yeah, that's that's crazy. That's crazy. That's your berries songs and it's crazy that the enemy is always saying it That's what I'm just saying. It's always yep. It's always the guy he done whoop They ass is that is the same team, right? It's crazy. He's been investigated since 2004 has been cleared. I'm just saying that's what they're saying
Starting point is 00:18:24 I know what they're saying But they're not saying it about anybody else though. The FBI has cleared so everybody else got caught but him Yeah, they riding all them niggas bigger names than him at the time They all got they only talk about beer by all God. They all got caught but him You a slick motherfucker. You a slick motherfucker. They all got caught
Starting point is 00:18:49 except for you. What you doing? Yes, nothing. That's the problem. There's nothing. Good diet, hard work. Fuck you doing over there? Rigorous schedule.
Starting point is 00:18:57 See, I don't want to, but you know, you know there's... I ain't saying it, Gil. Just don't be coming at me. I ain't saying it. I'm just saying it's a nice little narrative people like to use
Starting point is 00:19:06 But I can tell you one thing and one thing for sure 2003 right is that when they came in with them for test The full test for what everything? 2004 right three five so 2004 right 2005 so 2005 that means from 2004 to this motherfucking game was invented
Starting point is 00:19:30 they only had one drug testing right weed right no everything training camp October 1st everybody got tested that means October 2nd all the way to October 1st of next year you got to do what the fuck you wanted to do.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Okay? Facts. After 2005, there's four tests. So I don't know what PED you're going to get on and be able to pass the test. Because if you notice, since them four tests came, there's been a bunch of people that got caught. Tristan Thompson just got caught. So you just can't be out there doing it. He was on coke and some shit.
Starting point is 00:20:04 No, no, you don't get no. Allegedly, we cannot confer. No, no, no. We cannot confer. Enhancement. No, enhancement don't mean. That is an enhancement. No, enhancement means.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That nigga paranoid out there. No, no, no, no. Enhancement. That other. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Screen coming, screen coming left. Screen coming right. Screen coming left.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. They on that other hand. Rebound, rebound, hey, screen coming left. Screen coming right. Screen coming left. Nah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. They on that other hand. Rebound, rebound, rebound. They got a list for all the players I got caught. Trust me. All you just got to Google the right stuff. They asked us to talk about this shit. I figured we'd fucking touch on it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:20:36 I can tell you this. If you want it to be real, wait till Skip Bailey's talking about it. That's the biggest hater, right? Okay. So, Rashad, there are some black escalators outside. They said they just want to talk. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:20:53 I'll be having them bright lights in my window and shit too. You know what I'm saying? They'll be looking for me. I'll be hiding. Better turn your phone off. Yeah. I ain't scared of you, niggas. So let's talk a little bit just about... I am. I am. I see you, niggas. So let's talk a little bit. I am. I am. I see what COVID did.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Okay. When it was targeting people. Damn, you spoke up. You did? Damn. Yeah. Well, let's. It wasn't me.
Starting point is 00:21:15 That's all I'm going to say. Let's keep it moving. Messages. So let's talk a little bit about LeBron's comments about being in the zone. How would you describe being in the zone? And were there times you felt like you had supernatural powers on the court? I see you looking at me since I was 29. That or this is Gills Arena presented by Hunter Garfetti. No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I was on a good cat at 15. I mean, let's just say, you know. 15 to 29 is different. You know, I'm just saying, you know, when I scored 28, it was called a bad day. That was an off night. It was an off night. You know, kind of got booed. Like, oh, damn, he had 28. So, you know, them zones is real.
Starting point is 00:21:59 But there's only like, you know, two or three times during a season where you feel invincible. There's some times, to be honest, the first half, you untouchable. Second half, you dud it. First half, you dud it. Second half, you untouchable. So a few games like that for me was Phoenix when I hit 54 51 against Utah
Starting point is 00:22:36 Where you know me and Oka for that last three minutes of the game. We was basically going shot for shot He came down hit it three. I had to come down hit it three. He hit it too. I hit it three He hit it three I hit it too. So, you know, there's gonna be a you know There's only a few games in your career where you feel untouchable. It's like all green lights, you know, for working person. You late for work, and it's all green lights, and you just smooth sailing. And you make it right on time.
Starting point is 00:22:57 That's the working person comparable guilty. Who was late for work? You think you're about to be late? The working person late for work. You get to the coffee, your coffee good your wife said hello your kid daddy We miss yeah, you move every day. So nobody in your parking spot right up front. You like damn God is good. That's that that's that feeling. That's hilarious. Oh core My bad. I said Oka for right yeah I was like oh cool of course it was
Starting point is 00:23:26 that jazz it was jazz yeah the jazz game and y'all let him get off when y'all oh he was getting off pick a pop yeah he was at that he was at my boss I had booze or so it was like Brendan Heywood that's a good pop don't stop no there was no there was hell together yeah I mean booze it together Yeah, so we're sure In the scope of your basketball career. I know you have moments in the league where you felt unstoppable What was it like being in the zone? I'll probably say in New York. I hit my I think it was seven eight threes came in river seven or eight and
Starting point is 00:24:02 Had some work in the stands. And you know. High tier work? High tier work. You know, and didn't know I was going to play. Didn't know how. Didn't know how. You don't know you're going to play?
Starting point is 00:24:14 And then come out there, hot, you know, just like, you know, they was running the zone, I believe. And kept popping that bitch to me and I kept knocking that bitch down, you know? And it just felt like I'm supposed to get more minutes coach Like I'm supposed to play a little bit more and it's always a good feeling were you mad dogging the coach? Absolutely. Oh, yeah So Rashad I haven't like high-level work in the stands and I know if you're gonna play was there a sense of relief when you Got out there. I'm asking a question you mean high-level bro in the stands not know if you're gonna play was there a sense of relief when you got out there I'm asking a question you mean high-level, bro. It was high tier work. He's at the time
Starting point is 00:24:48 Yeah, for him not anymore at this time for the universe for him It was high level at this moment in time for you or for the universe Okay, like I can't say to. I thought it was just a regular. They still working. They still working. Yeah, they still working. I don't want to backlash for that, but yeah, it was high level. It was high level.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Was there a sense of relief? Were you nervous at all going into it? I wasn't. Like you were going to be embarrassed, and then was there relief after you got to the game? Damage was already done the night before. Oh, so it was, okay. It was a goodbye. It was like after the game, goodbye, see you next time.
Starting point is 00:25:23 It was like, man, I'm glad you enjoyed the game. I play well tonight. Yeah, but still important though You sure don't want to leave the work. Well, you want to you want her to feel good Did you not just dig on the bench? I'm saying I play good tonight. See what you talk about You could go with that man. Yeah, okay mark. I mean it was just the anniversary I want to say your triple-double at Cincinnati, 24.23 rebounds. Oh, that was the first one. Ooh. But being in the zone of just sheer dominance. Yeah, like, yeah, I ain't never just had, like, scoring outbursts like Gil in them 50s and 60s.
Starting point is 00:25:57 I ain't never did that. But just, like you said, pure dominance in the game. Like, yeah, no, I've had a couple of them 20, 20, 10 nights in college. Few. What it feel like to get into the defensive zone instead of the offensive zone, like that defense, cause you know that's the thing. Oh no, that was easy, that part was easy.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I missed triple doubles, I don't know how many times in college, eight blocks, nine blocks, like just, that shit was regular But I remember in the finals. This is nothing to down how people score the ball now Mm-hmm, but when we played the Lakers in the finals Game for I had 17 in the first quarter and I like back then in old 202 yeah, yeah. That's like 30. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:26:46 With no threes, though. Yeah, yeah. Right? This is just two jump shots and dunks. Like, it's one of them. Like, so no threes in this. So, but...
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah, nah, just... Game, yeah. Just a few games where you, yeah, you go on runs and shit like that where everything go in. So, nah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah, I just ain't ever been. So no, it's okay. Yeah, I just ain't ever been a volume shooter, that's all. You're a volume dunker. Yeah, I shoot the ball, but I just ain't never, yeah, I ain't never just, most shots I probably took in my career in the game, probably like 26, 27, something like that. You say that in the game probably like 26 27 That's just that might I know I wouldn't find like Your whole house where you took 20 Ain't it going on in early 2000?
Starting point is 00:27:45 You threw it out there. I'm just asking you that's my whole college career. So that's why I'm sitting on this couch hosting I'm very transparent about that. That's why you guys are talking about so you shot that I took 40 my freshman year You only took 20 coaches were haters good as you know He shot he shot he had to shoot 85% didn't want to leave a look now I got it got a little trick as you know, it gets a little tough. Yeah, it's over 50 already great over Down here percent. No, I got sentence. It's not 26 shots. Not a six-year-old sick Let me see getting any not gonna get yo hurry up and get a shot But he can sue he's But it's cold it's cold. I guess go
Starting point is 00:28:20 My hands go, you know embarrassed no Family shaking their heads. Yeah. But 27 for me, like that's a... Yeah, I know. I'm upset. I think, yeah, but it's something to do, like given probably, how many shots you didn't shot the ball?
Starting point is 00:28:35 What's the most you shot the ball in a game? Probably over 30. Over 30, right? I got over 31. Yeah. Yeah. Well, like that was probably like a consistent thing. You did that a few times. Yeah. I'm over 31. Yeah. Yeah. Well like that was probably like a consistent thing You doing that a few times? Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:48 I'm pretty sure so Rashad that game 13 for 35s after some shit 23 points 21 minutes 7 for 9 from 3 you also had a rebound and assist and a steal. Oh, yeah rebound one assist So yeah, and you said you had that four by one four by one that was seven and them seven threes we good we doing the whole pomp and circumstance we just getting it in all right cool well we got a special guest entering the arena as you know we are live we do shit on the fly what you at? You know where he's sitting at. Everybody gotta sit next to fucking Ken. So you took my spot. Is it useful over here? You seen this man doing his thing.
Starting point is 00:29:33 You seen his legendary social media posts, NFL recaps, all the work he got going on. You shit together beforehand. Sipa! The legendary rapper in the building. What's up baby? My man, my man. What's going on brother? I don't want to make you mad. What's up, baby? My man, my man. What's going on, brother? I ain't gonna, I don't wanna make you mad, Ken.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Oh, no, you good. I'm saying, there's gonna be sitting over this motherfucker like you Adrian Dantley on the bench, nigga. Yeah, I got you. Sitting like you Adrian Dantley on the bench, nigga. I got you. You be like, yo, you just be like, hey, close your goddamn legs, man. Like, you like, you the only person on the bench.
Starting point is 00:30:07 How y'all feeling? What's going on, bro? How you doing? Man, feel good, man. Y'all see that game last night? Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm scared for the Clippers in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:30:17 They should be scared as well. Yeah, yeah. 3-1 season series. Scared of who? Blake? The team that... Y'all can't beat them in the playoffs. Bro, you've seen the arena.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Y'all can't beat them in the playoffs. You've seen the arena. There was no Clipper vibe in there. There was no Clipper vibe in there? There's a lot of purple and gold in there. So, we got to point out, Clippers didn't have Paul George, but the Lakers didn't have Vanda and Gabe Vincent. Or Woods.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I like that. I like that. I like that. He's still got the shovel wait Try to figure out what's going on Shove-on head understandable See, we had to shuffle. Shuffle in hand. Understandable. But you watched the game last night. Yeah, man. You know, I kind of want to see a Clippers-Boston finals.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And last night kind of made me feel like whose team is it when it comes to the Clippers? Because we've seen who team it is when it comes to the Lakers last night. But it was looking like I'm looking for Kawhi to step up. We know Paul wasn't playing. James was doing what he could trying to control the ball. But there was a lot of turnovers. There was just a lot going on that was like, how do y'all close like this and who takes over in these times?
Starting point is 00:31:37 Mm-hmm. We were there. We were wondering the same thing. I agree. I was happy that it was confused It was a good game Watching Clippers exceptional defense. I don't think they could have done any more Another conversation we've been having though like with the Clippers like whose team is it gonna be?
Starting point is 00:32:12 Right missing the guy you got the coffee kid playing who's parents man start Zubac was down. Yes, that's true near full strength. I Just say like who's team is it? They were full strength adjacent It looked like Terrence man team it is do be looking like that, don't they? They get confused in that. Great ass team, man. It do be looking like that, too, man.
Starting point is 00:32:36 He be the only one out there really playing. Like, shit. Is it his team? Is it Kawhi? Is it James? Norman Powell, he go out there and play a little bit. I don't know if he's showing up, but it's like James is, shit, what we doing, bro?
Starting point is 00:32:49 Yeah. We'll see. That's, you know, the only thing that's different between eras than this one is it seems like this is equal opportunity. Mm-hmm. It seems like it's,'s like because the office is the way it is pass and cut and pass and cut Some of these dudes that's taking shots and touching the ball Now they can touch it but they shooting it that's that's that's the fucking thing when When you just catch that bitch swinging, dribble, handoff, DHO, goddammit.
Starting point is 00:33:27 You the DHO guy, goddammit. Hey, that's your job. It's like everybody feel like they have the right to shoot because they practice it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, I took 300 shots today in practice. That's what's up. Take another 300 more.
Starting point is 00:33:44 That'll mean shooting the shit in the game. Just by chance, if it up. Yeah, take another 300 most That'll be shooting shit in the game. Yeah Just by chance if it come to you'll be ready. Do not I'm looking for my shit. Yeah. Oh It's some guy. Yeah, trust me. I be sitting like how he takes seven three who allowed you to get seven threes So where is the no conscious either soon as it's I swing. Look, I get it and swing it real fast. I swung it not expecting you to shoot. Not at all. Not at all. Like, you know, I'm a coach, like, swing, swing.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Like, ah, ah. He shot it. He shot it. He shot it. I thought we was just moving the defense to give it back. I didn't know he was supposed to shoot the ball. I would have never passed him the ball. No offense to, you know, D'Angelo Russell,
Starting point is 00:34:26 because he's not one of them guys you're describing, but last night I seen him take a three that was just like, we're trying to move the defense. He just caught it, like barely jumped and just shot it. It's like, damn, bro. Like, where's the rhythm? But if you watched him last night, he was out there playing like he didn't really want to be there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:41 He was just, you heard, I tried to sell him a couple times. Come on, man. Come on. Ah, damn. He be tripping. He be tripping. Came through in the fourth quarter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:52 He made it back up. Sometimes they be lunching. Yeah. Definitely. Lakers struggled last year before the trade deadline, then caught fire, made it to the Western Conference Finals. Facts. That's what.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Four close games. Okay. In that Western Conference Finals. Facts. That's what. Four close games. Okay. In that Western Conference Finals. That's what. Lost the minimum amount of games allowed for a team to advance. That's what. They didn't make any major moves this season, but did ask Spencer Dinwiddie.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Obviously, he's still trying to find his rhythm with the team. Huh? Are the Lakers still a threat in the West? A threat for the playing game? Absolutely. Beyond the playing game, KD. We're in the playing game last year. A threat to who? Whoever's number one or two. So Timberwolves, Thunder would be their matchups right now.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Yeah. Yeah, thank you. We'll take that. How many games left? That's a bad matchup for one and two. percent. It is no you sir surging. Unfortunately. Yeah, I would hate that Yeah, I would hate this one yeah, I'll be playing LeBron you Shay I will hate you think the NBA is gonna have you beat LeBron LeBron I'll get the cakewalk all the way to the back of the space? Timberwolves currently the top seed in the West, Lakers ninth. Is that a question? Yes. Until they got a cakewalk?
Starting point is 00:36:10 That's a question. You can't hide no more in the West, so it's going to be a cakewalk? One team they need to avoid at all costs. You asked one. There's one team they need to avoid at all costs. Based on our structure right now, Timberwolves are number one. Nobody over to guard him at all leave Denver The rest of the West they cool with the weather
Starting point is 00:36:36 Them yeah, they got that they got equalized. They got a handsome him Phoenix They got no, But I'm saying is... LeBron like five and something. If you're sitting here like being one and two, at this point in time, being one and two is not a happy feeling when you know what the bottom teams look like.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Them bottom teams ain't like the Pelicans and shit. You talking about LeBron James and Anthony Davis at the bottom. You're talking about Bill, Kron James and Anthony Davis at the bottom and you're talking about Bill KD and Booker at the bottom Steph Curry when the two teams at the top don't have star power in for referees I'll be sitting at number one lot. Hey, man, listen When we gonna take I don't know we don't smoke table. Can I sit out a couple games? We release you three
Starting point is 00:37:25 Cuz it's like if okay see play the Lakers in the Lakers catch momentum. It's like what do they do with it? Yeah, but you follow through and you fuck around have to play Phoenix six. Oh, yeah Be tough, but the Phoenix have bill You think so all this Man for me right now, they'll be there. He'll be there. You think so? All this sitting out now. Man, he's so unreliable, man, for me right now. I think he'll be there. He's pacing himself. But if the playoffs started today, Timberwolves would be in the one spot.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Lakers and Warriors would play that playing game. And the 9-10 to try to get to the 8. Ooh, that's Brady. No problem with the Warriors in postseason. Lunch meat. You think so? But four and five right now is Clippers and Suns. 39. We can bet on that.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Ron James. He sells better. Nah, but it won't sell better if he coming back next year. We can get rid of this nigga in the first round. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Welcome back. Welcome back, nigga. We'll see you next year.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Go ahead and convo early. We got viewership issues. We need to see LeBron ride it out. Yeah. Lakers have 22 games left. They got a pretty tough slate coming up. They got the Wizards, I believe, tonight. Then it gets a little...
Starting point is 00:38:40 There's a chance that we might not see... Curry? Or LeBron in the playoffs this year Now that we know it's good. The NBA entertainment is what it's nine and ten nine and ten So I'm so close our games, you know what LeBron doing? Yeah or You know what LeBron doing the clothes on it?
Starting point is 00:39:05 He closed out How many games they bring out his new ankles? They're dead now right now, right? I like yours are at nine right now So from the six seed who did this started who's 10? So Terry now is Warriors Yes, 910 playing and the Warriors beat them Lakers three games out of the 60 though, which is currently the Pelicans They say look at that. If you three who's three And the Warriors just beat them. Lakers are three games out of the 60, though, which is currently the Pelicans. They're six. Look at that. If you three, who's three?
Starting point is 00:39:29 Three is the Nuggets. Look at that. They can't walk. Where's Sack? Sack right now is eighth seed. If I'm the number one or two seed, I want Pelicans. The West is so tight. That's nasty. Isn't it going to be OKC seven?
Starting point is 00:39:43 For like five to ten, it's like OKC 7? But like 5 to 10 is like... OKC 7? No, they're two. OKC number two? Yeah, they're two. So is Minnesota OKC 7? Yeah. Denver, then Clippers.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Right now. There's going to be some tanking at the end. That's why what Gil is saying... 4-5 is... 4-5 is Clippers' sons right now. As of right now. See, that's... Ooh.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Wee, that's a good first round bump. Go ahead, Keeler. No, I would say that's why what Gil is saying is true, because it's like if the Lakers got to play the Pelicans, I don't see the Pelicans beating the Lakers, and then they... Yeah, I don't see that either. Like, how does that go down? Well, they got to get past the Warriors first.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Come on. You see what we did? You see what we did to the last security guard? You see what we did? You see what we did to them last year? Clay coming off the bench now andrew wiggins is still in canada we're not worried about them right they can't get to the free throw line cp they can't get to the free throw line baby they got young lead they got
Starting point is 00:40:37 jackson cominga and the playoff game we're gonna hit the basket they're gonna shoot threes hit the bat they're gonna be crying oh we can't get to the free dog Look at this 45 to 2 the Lakers to be Lakers to be Right. Oh man. We know what's gonna happen. We seen that last I'm gonna shoot their face off. Hmm, but yeah But we would need everybody to click on all cylinders cominga gotta shoot the ball Oh, this is gonna be here. You gotta shoot it just to be him Be aggressive. That's true going to be him. He ain't got to shoot it. It's just be him. Be aggressive. That's true.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Be athletic. Be young. Be fearless. They're going to need Clayton Wiggins to just play last year basketball. For sure. Both of them got to be better, man. What happened last year? I'm just making sure.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Just double checking. But then you got to see. But the beauty of it is, see if you come back, then you get the light skin off the ball. Yeah, I don't like CP with the Warriors. I do in this situation If we're talking about playoff basketball, so you got the light-skinned kid get to run around and you can't Trap him on the ball. Yes. Oh, listen, yeah and off the ball. I look at it like that. Yeah, okay It's probably a half-court, but we're playing back. You take the ball out of Draymond green here now. He'll screener. Yes So now you're reading now your screen and a rebounder instead of a ball handler I just feel like he's slow to game up. Yeah slow to game
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yeah, that's what it is in the playoffs So it's harder to scheme against Stefan half-court basketball because Draymond if he got the ball is dribble handoffs all the time I see P right shots CP. Yeah, and see people you can't play off the CP like playoff. That's huge. That's fine I said, but he making them shots though. Yeah, but he make time to shot Not he hit that load that that blue mirror Go right Angelo 66 We not going Though but we're just a man we can get his little two-point little two-point shots. He's taking we good
Starting point is 00:42:36 Three so him and D lo Balancer yeah, we're not D logo have 17 so now you be three gonna have about five Not in the play. I got a nine give mine at least I give him nine Nine and twelve what players have y'all been watching the last? Ten he's averaging on this team. No, no for his career. They ain't been honest. How about the last five years? They've been honest last year. This is a last. We ain't been on this team though. He got shooters out there now He got my virgin right now Chris Paul. Uh-huh on that same this team. Well, he's been out So no no no when he was playing he was But when he was playing 13, I believe Let me pull up the muse nine
Starting point is 00:43:20 Steve fastening you know, I give you I give you nine and why fuck a host You got a lot of things I got to do shit to moderate as the young Yeah, but we knew we knew CP will go take out the Clippers loss on me. We are How we bought the earlier this week? She went out the window Issues that we all see going on Certain levels of basketball, but CP three average of nine.7 assists, four rebounds in 33 games. Seven assists?
Starting point is 00:43:48 Yep. Nine and seven? Come on, man. That's fine. What's that? That's 16 points total? 16, 17 points? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Total? Yeah, that's it. That's plenty. D'Angelo's 17 and four Four remains no full forces. Is that in the playoffs? He gonna disappear. He definitely gonna get scary with him. Yeah, he gets Gary put him in the post Mm-hmm CP gonna post yet D. Lo don't post them back up That take away I y'all.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Ice in the veins is always their first round. I'm sorry. I'm not wrong. We're going to keep this thing moving. Quickly, we just got to show some love to Luca. Why? Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean that out loud.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I was supposed to stay in my bed. Why? Why? You dropped 45 on the Cavs and a loss on Tuesday. Made some history Wednesday for his 25th birthday. First player in NBA history with a 30-point triple-double on their birthday, Gil. I know that from June to September, they were excluded. Shia, I believe your birthday is September 25th from my Google stalking. So everybody can't obviously do it, but 30-point triple-double on his birthday.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah, that's cute. Where do they come up with these stats? They need them. Niggas is bored. That's all I'm saying. Give me like a nigga score 30, eat McDonald's, he's the first person ever to do that. It started at around 2014, 15. First person to do everything's the first.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Remember it was like, yeah, this is the first loss on a Tuesday the last Important watch for those of us that do higher lower a better dog fantasy go this information. Yeah, it's more for The Vegas I got you yeah, you know the astute Congratulations. I saw I wanted to hear you you haven't you scored 30 on your birthday and you lost and you lost I mean there's the entire industry around me. Where's all I wanted to hear, Bill. You scored 30 on your birthday. And you lost. Yeah, and you lost. There's an entire industry around- I mean, where's that rank on birthdays? What, nine, 10?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Entire industry around sports information. I think Shaq's 61 and 23 is impressive. I just wanted to fire you up, Bill, on the Lord's Thursday. But research is an important part of life. Okay. He knows. He does. That's that man. Take it out on does. Stat man, stat man, stat man.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Stat man knows now. Damn. So, Lucas. Yeah, that's me. Yeah, that's me. What are your best contributions to this show? Every time we go out now, I'm going to be yelling, stat man.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Y'all better leave you alone Nobody is there right here you ain't nobody so look at 73 points in a game this season Which brings us to our next topic NBA seen the offensive explosion in recent years Scoring averages this season are the highest since 1970. Since what? 1970. Scoring averages. Team combined, collective, before you pull out the phone.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Don't blame me. So 1970, they was doing the same thing that they're doing today? In 1970? From a scoring average standpoint. So 1970, they was doing exactly what we're doing today. They had this kind of firepower. So that means they was playing that fast back in when? 1979. No three-point line.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And no three-point line. And they was shooting that bitch. So basically they was moving a lot faster than this generation because they're averaging about the same with no three-point line. Is that what you said? I just want to proceed. But the league has set a record for offensive efficiency six times the past eight seasons.
Starting point is 00:47:24 I also remember this past January, it's been four days. We saw the two 70-point games, two 60-point games. All-star game, we saw a record 211 points. Adam Silver was not pleased about that. Some blame defense being legislated out of the game. Others credit the growth of offense. But the league may be looking to make some changes in the near future. NBA executive VP and head of basketballps Joe Dumars recently told ESPN
Starting point is 00:47:46 that the competition committee officially began reviewing whether the game is tilted too far towards offense and whether changes need to be implemented to achieve better balance. So, Dumars said the following, it is a topic that we're monitoring. We're diving in right now to make sure
Starting point is 00:48:01 that we're on the right side of this. So, my esteemed gentleman on the couch, what changes can the league make to bring more competitive balance to both sides of the ball? Or do they even need to make these changes? Hmm. Oh, y'all want me to go first? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:48:21 You average 29. Yeah. That's the offense. Now, I want you to go first so we average 29. Yeah. It's the offense. Now I want you to go first so we can make it a take. No! I want to hear it. I want to hear it take because I know you're going to switch it up. I'm not going to switch it up.
Starting point is 00:48:36 You know I stand with the defense aside. So what can they do to change it? Shit, play defense God damn. Shit! What can they do to change it? Shit play defense got down Think that was common sense play some fucking defense out there like he can't what niggas supposed to take less shots I don't understand what they supposed to do to the offense. They're not supposed to score. Yeah, it's like you let James travel It's like that's that's a travel step back three cool. We let that slide cool You're oh, I honest you take four steps to your own lay it up cool
Starting point is 00:49:10 What else is there to do? call less files I Don't understand. It's just niggas need to play defense a little bit. Take it take it personal a little bit Can you do you agree with Rashad assessment that niggas just need to play defense? In a nutshell. Okay. Underdog, make the quote card. Zayn.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Nah, so it's... It just touches on everything that we talk about that we've talked about in the last few days just about the development of it, right? Because it's all a learned behavior. And the younger you get guys, unless they have been coached and taught it at a high school level. In the U.S., like you said,'s 150 european players in the league right now so they're not getting the same coaching and tutelage in that area that most high school coaches should
Starting point is 00:50:16 damn near all college coaches do i can't i don't i don't can't think of a college coach that don't work on defense, right? That's part of it. So it's a tough thing, right? So if you're not learning in high school and you're only doing one year or six months in college, then you're going in at 19 because you're this talented and you don't, and that's, those are the guys, if they stick around the league you're not to your point always You're not working on defense in the summer Right working on your office of game So you were this top 15 pick coming in and you you're able to get past four years What have you took the time to be like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:51:03 I'm gonna go hire a defensive coach. Right? Not even thought about it. No, you're not fucking doing that. I'm going to go hire a shooting coach. I'm going to go hire a strength and conditioning coach. I'm not hiring someone to teach me to play defense because it's not important. Why are there no defensive, just all defensive trainers?
Starting point is 00:51:18 We don't ever see that. Because it's not a fan. It's not sexy. It's not it's not because most times it Defenses is looked at as a team aspect thing. Mm-hmm, right? It's a team thing. So You have certain guys that you know that he can stay in front of that ball he do this we block like this Some of it is pride some of it is coaching some of it is instinct some of it is all of it is tied into one But it's the game is great far as what people what the NBA wanted it to be
Starting point is 00:51:56 Mm-hmm, and this this is the product, right? So now you have people griping about the product that you put all this attention into. Facts. But like people say, now the cat's out the bag. If you went too far, you know the stuff. Yeah, now trying to get it back in is like good luck. Good luck. Right?
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yeah. So that's where we are with it. Good luck. Because you are going to draft more European guys. You keep drafting them younger everybody's coming up with a School or university that kids don't have to go to college now. They won you're removed so now they can go to the league Right people create these things now to to circumvent the the college things of kids don't have to go to college Creating whatever now to circumvent the college thing so kids don't have to go to college.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Curating whatever and they're not teaching it there neither so it's like it's going to be a continuous cycle. So the NBA, this is the thing that y'all wanted. This is the product now. This is where the game is.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Unless you're going to start drafting more college kids and not penalizing them for going to school for three years and learning how to defend, then this is what you're going to have. Because that's where they're teaching it at in college. They are practicing defense daily, individual and and team zone shit. They doing that shit daily in college You know bowls and box, but I'm open box, but if you stay in college fucking three years Heaven forbid four years. Mm-hmm Your chances of getting drafted are in the single digits as percentages So What are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:53:45 Are they going to start drafting kids? Older, but yes, Gilbert. I know what they can do. Get rid of all the Europeans. What? You just said it. You just said it. You go to college to learn defense. What college do Europeans go to?
Starting point is 00:54:15 I'm with you. No, I just said get rid of them. They don't go to college whatsoever. They have no athleticism. They have no athleticism. They all come over and go down. Hold on. They have no athleticism.
Starting point is 00:54:24 They have no speedism. Hold on. They have no athleticism. They have no speed, no jumping ability. They are a liability on defense. There's 150 heroes in the league today. Name the top 10 defenders. None. Just Rudy Goldberg and Greek DeFrit.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Other than that, they're just offensive players. They're not defensive players Right. So the NBA took away aggression They took away aggression to open up the Euro League when they first started getting here. It was too rough for them So they didn't make it they didn't make it right? So eventually they soft, right? So eventually, they softened the rules. They didn't soften the rules for the Americans. They softened the rules to open it up international. So when they're saying the Euros is going to run the league in the next five years, why do you think that? More threes, pass and cut.
Starting point is 00:55:17 This is not our league. This is not the American style. This is the Euro style. Drive in, suck the defense in, pass the ball to the three-point line It's three-point shooting lead because they're copying euro style sent into I mean sons, right? What was the biggest thing the sons didn't do? Deacons on the China. Ole let's go. Let's go We don't want to foul so we can go try to score
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah, that was the whole we're going to go in Tony Yeah, right that is what the league was created off of to have more of those guys in so they can expand the business Oh Make it a global game. So global game. You remember pushing global game global game? How they gonna have a global game if it's too physical and too athletic for them So they have to figure out ways where they can exist inside of the game Wow, right? Create more opportunities bring in more shooters so they can survive so these guys can become shooters. He cooking now that makes The best year old has handled no, I swear that makes sense because when he was just talking,
Starting point is 00:56:26 I'm like, man, it feels like a lot of the issue is like the game is like a three-point game now. So it's like everybody's just shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting, shooting. Nobody's really applying too much skill to get to the basket. So when everybody's shooting, you really ain't got to guard them, motherfucker, because they're shooting from the logo or they're shooting from five feet behind the three-point line so that make a lot of sense so just but the question when you got a guy like luke is saying it's easier to score in the league than they need to score overseas how come all those overseas dudes aren't coming out here and being locked down defenders and making it harder to speak because one you can play zone overseas and it's a team concept yeah you can play i can
Starting point is 00:57:03 we can sit in here hey yeah we can hit the ball off the rim we can you know no d3 and and the end the court is smaller because the three-point line ain't as yep so it's it's more compact right so when he decides to do his ice ball remember he's the only iso player that can literally play iso where's the rest of the euros that know how to play iso basketball so you have a guy that's 16 so for him and he's sitting there going against Chris Paul the whole time and we're going against A whole bunch of small dudes. Hell. Yeah, it's easy for an advantage over. Is it easy? Where's the rest of them saying that shit? Thanks. Where's the rest? Who is the second best Euro guard Tony Parker? No right now. Oh he played no I was just thinking you saying overall. No, I'm saying who's the second best Tony lived in that motherfucker. Oh he play it. No, no, I was just saying
Starting point is 00:57:47 Tony lived in that motherfucker. He was doing like yeah, I'm saying he got his numbers up. But today no nobody We don't even that's what I'm saying. No because they promote of these three We don't even know who the second best point guard is for the euro guys And if you already established everybody trying to say SGA North-american they is there is there any who's the best is there any other point in the best shooting guards gonna be one of them bonagans Soon as somebody see one of them Yeah, sure for sure right It's lunch to me.
Starting point is 00:58:25 So when they're talking about defense, what we need to do for defense, the answer is nothing. Because if you tighten up the defense, you're losing what you wanted. And I'm sorry to point it above. I mean, unless you're going to do a bunch of the two-point line become the three-point line and a three-point line become the two And now you got to try to have a whole bunch of your rolls trying to get to the basket Who got handles I mean Luca got his little thing going on other than that
Starting point is 00:59:00 What fucking handles does the euro have like why are we pretending? He got sham God on his thing? God on the set Jason kid yeah other than that like that's what I'm saying So when you talk about the global part of it, they're only state just like the American Caucasian got put out of the game. Hmm so to read to bring it back you had to figure out how to and We're just taking advantage of it. Hmm. Damn, bro
Starting point is 00:59:31 That makes so much sense You say get rid of all the euros and then indeed the defense will show up even show up I ain't shit. I ain't got my guy's 55% from the 362% for the 345% for the three and only black They're gonna hit 31 62% for the three 45% for the three and only black nigga on it 31 You're trying to colonize the game Like if you sit here really trying to think about it other than that just stop just stop already and say listen We're not gonna do nothing. We need the shooters in the game Period the worst shooters in the game, period. The worst shooters in the game is going to be the Americans. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:07 What Euro player is that? Who's the worst shooting Euro player? Giannis. Why do they shoot so much better? Because that's all they do over there. So they focus on offense more. They focus on team stuff, driving, defense come in, kick it to three. You see, if you can watch how they play, they have wide open layups,
Starting point is 01:00:24 but they're trying to get everybody to come in. They play the out game. Yeah, they don't go to the hoop on a three-on-one. And you're talking about more from the guard position, right? Because people are pointing out. Two, three, four. The last five MVPs, though. Two, three, four.
Starting point is 01:00:40 What the Euro has over American right now is big men. Yeah. Right? I mean, even all the dominant like like Nash remember Nash not euro So if you name all the Europeans, they're all tall and the bonus Cool coach right dirt right here. You're talking deadless shrimp. Now you're talking about guys who are In beat is American now to just so we set that the lawn marketing with the floor marketing I'm wrong yeah the guards is this a trouble because they because they don't they're not athletic enough to play the position
Starting point is 01:01:13 like so if you're if you're a six five six eight huge and nobody like but there's nobody is probably what the the most athletic yeah yeah by far our teen and he's brought about it? So he's South American. He had a what? A 38-inch? He's South American. He had a 38-inch vertical? Because as a kid until Ginobili, all we thought
Starting point is 01:01:32 was like, Peja Troiakovic. He could just shoot. Yeah, he wasn't athletic at all. Turkoglu? I mean, these guys. That's what I'm saying. These guys. Peja.
Starting point is 01:01:41 That was it. Really? Did they play defense? No. You got to go back to like Droz and Petrovic. We definitely trying to get them in the hole. Switch. Switch.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Go to hell. Please get him in one. You got to go back to like- Supposed to want to play. He come out guards. Oh, man. Iso. Iso.
Starting point is 01:01:58 You got to go back to like Droz and Shrewdus, Marchelones. Those types. That was way back then. That's all I'm saying. This is fair. So that means nothing's going to happen. There's no rule that they can put in that's going to change anything. No, you're just drafting more college kids.
Starting point is 01:02:13 The only thing that'll help. Defense isn't at a disadvantage. It's just been inundated. So the people as of late, right, who you could think like, oh shit, he fucking got shit out the ball. Kid that, Carter that went to West Virginia. You can name him, right? Just like, oh, he had, Pat Bev does a decent job on the ball.
Starting point is 01:02:37 The Carter kid from West Virginia. Sexton, Colin Sexton. The Davion Clark kid that plays for Sacramento. Mitchell. Mitchell. Him. Try to get by him. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Goddamn. Marcus Smart. Marcus Smart. Gary Payton. Gary Payton. Like, people. But we can name them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Right? What do they all have in common? Can't shoot. No, they went to school for a few years. You know what I'm saying? That, too. They've gotten better years They've gotten better they got better yeah, they working on it, but they are they understand in order for them to be in Lee They got to shoot the ball, right? But what they haven't come they went to school for a few years
Starting point is 01:03:18 All of them. Yep. Mm-hmm All the ones I named went school for a few years So it's a good you I've always leaned towards the side of guys who are younger, right? And teams investing in those young guys, 19, 20 year olds, as opposed to drafting an older guy like a Jaime Jaquez, let's say, who just turned 23 during All-Star weekend but performing well with the heat right now. Do you still feel that way looking at this current NBA and especially with the new CBA, prioritizing teams building through the draft?
Starting point is 01:03:45 The problem with NBA teams, you only have a few teams that actually dedicate themselves to player development, right? If I have a guy coming in at 18, 19, 20, I have a staff. I have players on my, that has jobs. You're getting a paycheck. That paycheck has a job title
Starting point is 01:04:06 Right if it says player development Right skills coach, right? You should be doing your job So therefore if my play if I'm sitting here thinking about treating this player or getting rid of him in the next three years Somebody didn't do they damn job Right because he's getting drafted. He don't know what the NBA experience is, so he's learning, you're here, this is what you, you're supposed to come in here like a fucking teacher, and you're supposed to teach us how to pass the test.
Starting point is 01:04:33 You're supposed to teach me the moves and all this to be successful in the game. So when we're looking at a player, we say, man, he's been here three years, he ain't even, and you got 12 coaches that ain't shit to do like I said I was when we went there the coaching staff was lifting weights am I right yeah no coaches staff is living with the fuck y'all need to be strong for you fuck y'all need where the players that cuz they need strong the pink what time did
Starting point is 01:05:01 we go two hours we visit we what, two hours? Yeah. Listen, we were there two hours, not one player in there, all the coaches standing there lifting weights and shit. They're like, y'all playing tomorrow? Yeah. The fuck y'all about to out there? Remember what I told you? I'm sitting there like, y'all, man, this is crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Not one player is in here doing anything. The coaches are sitting like y'all it's crazy. Yeah Player is in here do anything the coaches that like Yeah, I need to get y'all need to get people in there actually care about the job itself not the check. Mmm Job itself like talk about it. My resume is supposed to be on how many people I got better How many like I will be bragging about you gave me this product, now it's a max player. Yeah, for sure. Pay me on what my player's doing. That's what they should do. Everybody get assigned a player, right?
Starting point is 01:05:55 That'd be great, too, because that'll actually determine the work you're doing. Then bonus. Your bonus comes from what the player's doing. Did he get better? You get a grade as a coach. Yeah, performance. Performance. Performance results.
Starting point is 01:06:07 They can judge by performance, so you should get judged by your performance and how much you work with them. Because I know damn well if there's a $100,000 bonus at the end, and I got somebody... Yeah, well, hold on, goddamn it. You came in here, what?
Starting point is 01:06:19 22%. Oh, yeah, I'm going to get you up to 38. Easy. We're going to spot shoot till your hands bleed. Mm-hmm. Fuck your girlfriend. Tell her to come on in here. Watch here. Why she gonna rebound? Huh? Click it back over Shit, I don't give a fuck if you're doing this. Yeah, I'm just here at the gym watch and I see it like that I'll give my give you do that put them on a machine do something There's no way some of these guys still can't shoot and they were char six
Starting point is 01:06:44 months There's no way some of these guys still can't shoot. And they with y'all six months. Six months? Like you were saying with music. A&R. That's how the music industry should be today because it's like you get a bunch of people. For instance, I've had a product manager who went to school to learn how to market tomatoes. Like, how you going to tell me how to sell music from my community like you don't even know where I come from you know what I mean so it's like you get a
Starting point is 01:07:08 lot of people So it'd be like you get people who like they look at it With the school for produce not to produce me It's a lot of that in the music industry to where it's like you got a lot of people to where the job starts at 9 And they go home at 5 5 Yeah, don't call me after don't call me before you call me during those hours So it's like as a up-and-coming artist y'all telling me I need hits or I need this or I need this So I'm signing this deal for your expertise and your rolodexes, right? So teach me how to make the hits But it's like after 5 I can't call you. I can't talk to you now I have a great a and R who actually be up shout out to Dallas Martin He'd be doing his thing, but a lot of these up-and-coming artists now. Let's go. They got no guidance
Starting point is 01:08:12 It's just like you sign this deal you thrown into the pit fire and it's like what do I do? Yeah, and they'll tell you Oh make something for tick-tock for TikTok. Just like that. Is this good enough? You got this A&R job because your friend got something right on TikTok and put you in position. So now you're telling everybody else what to do and you're telling them to do what worked for your friend. Bitch, I ain't your friend.
Starting point is 01:08:40 You know what I'm saying? I'm a whole other thing. We got to really sit down and talk about this and get this shit right because I'm not finna get out here and jump off no building to go viral. It ain't happening. But that's what he talks about a lot with training. Like, you can't go in and train with somebody and expect them to do the same thing that you just did with somebody else
Starting point is 01:09:00 because he's a whole different player. So you got to look at him, sit him down, break down his footage and try to figure out what it is he want to get good at, what it is he's bad at. We're going to work on this shit because this is your game. You don't play like him. I'm training him the way he likes to be trained and what he's good at.
Starting point is 01:09:18 You ain't good at the same shit. Let's train your shit that you're good at. Let's look at the shit you're bad at. Let's get that shit better. Now, the 22 go to 38. Now we go to management and we say, look, not only was he bad at this and he's better at that now, but the other shit that you didn't even know he was good at, we're now highlighting that too. Now you got to give us extra, extra money.
Starting point is 01:09:39 That's like chorus shit. When you go in there, you're spitting the chorus. There never was no chorus hook. Now I got the hooks and the chorus because I'm with some writers who taught me in there, you spit in the chorus. There never was no chorus hook. Yep. You know what I'm saying? Now I got the hooks and the chorus because I'm with some writers who taught me how to do it. Who taught me the game. Like, I spent a lot of time with different writers. I was chilling with one of my homies, Ab Lava.
Starting point is 01:09:57 We was in the studio, and he was telling me about when they was working on Niggas in Paris. And Jay-Z had laid his verse, and verse and he kind of like left a few spaces in there but they knew to keep making the verse go ball so hard in those spaces so that's why they keep coming back every time in the song but if you don't get around people to teach you that it's like how do you know to do that you know and it's the same thing with training that is good so we appreciate you pulling up. Always got gems for us. Sure. But it's the same thing
Starting point is 01:10:28 on the entertainment side too. Somebody might work on a great show and it's like, you didn't write the shit, you wasn't an actor in it. But yeah, I worked on whatever,
Starting point is 01:10:34 I'm not going to say no names. And now they think that that, because they did that, but it does not translate. But that's not either here nor there. There's some general managers out there that worked
Starting point is 01:10:43 at Kinko's as managers and they, NBA managers, just messing. There's some general managers out there that work at Kinko's as managers and they, NBA managers, just fly. That same motherfucker who look at you. They hit a draft board like,
Starting point is 01:10:52 yeah, I think, uh, I like the number eight. I want eight. Yeah. That's my favorite number. That's my favorite number.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Like, literally, it's like some of those, like if you told every general manager before you got your job, where did you work? You'll be surprised. Y'all be sitting there like, how'd you get a job? Oh yeah, my best friend, his wife, she dates the owner.
Starting point is 01:11:16 So they was looking for somebody to hire. There you go. Where you work before this? King Cole's? LinkedIn? LinkedIn? Yeah. I worked at LinkedIn. They went to school together. Oh my wife's brother We all do it we hire our friends what Trump did Oh, you became president. He hired people that had nothing to do with the jobs. He was hiding for
Starting point is 01:11:51 It works at that level too. Yeah, I know I'll hire my friend before I hire you. Yeah, he'll learn on a job We'll bankrupt this bitch in a minute. We ain't trying. They'll get our check. That's the most important thing. So let's keep it moving. During a recent episode of his big podcast, Shaq talked about how KD's all-time ranking is impacted by his decision to join the Warriors and how the mindset of creating super teams now
Starting point is 01:12:19 is different from when he was playing in the league. If we knew that was acceptable, probably a lot of us would have switched up. A lot of people would have done it. If I knew that was acceptable, I would have just went to Chicago. If I knew that was acceptable, I would have went and played with the Spurs. If I knew that was okay, you know what I'm saying, I would have went and played with a team that was almost there, like Utah. I would have went and played in Utah.
Starting point is 01:12:42 Like, if I knew that was acceptable. We always thought, like, nope, you're the man, you're the guy, I wouldn't play in Utah. Like if I knew that that was acceptable, we always thought like, nope, you're the man, you're the guy, you got to get it done. You got to stay, you got to make trades, you got to do this, you can't. And I think he did it before it was acceptable. It's acceptable now. People just, I want to go here, I want to do this, I want to do, oh, hey, you play on this team, play on this team,
Starting point is 01:13:02 let's get on this team and create a big three. But again, if I knew that was acceptable, I just went and play with Mike So Gil you threw your phone during the clip we didn't know if that was in disgust but you actually needed to Make sure to charge the phone What do you think about Shaq's comments About if he would would have known it was acceptable back in his day, he would have just went and played with Michael Jordan and the Bulls? Why you might look at me first?
Starting point is 01:13:33 You said Gil. No, he didn't. Yeah, he did. At Gil's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. He asked you specifically. Sorry. He wanted to know, yeah. No, because you was disgusted.
Starting point is 01:13:42 No, I threw my phone out. I didn't know. Before that, you was... Throat No, I threw my phone out. Hold that. Throat clearing. Go ahead and say it. So what? I was expecting a, yeah, that's cool, but. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Wasn't he on the team when Karl Malone and him came? Okay. But he didn't make the decision. But still, he didn't. He didn't leave. But I'm just, like, it's been, they've been doing it like team people been leaving going places man, like It's just it's the office with the Katie shit Not the fact that he went just
Starting point is 01:14:16 That's what I just lost you. Mm-hmm, right? That's what bothered people Not the fact that he went there Is they just lost to them. They were up, and that's who they lost to. Then he joined them the next year. That's what bothered people. But Ray did the same thing.
Starting point is 01:14:34 But people don't want to talk about it. Who? Ray Allen. Ray Allen did what? He lost. He lost to the Heat. And then he went and won a championship with them the next year.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Miami. No one cares. No, no, I'm saying, but he did. He lost. He lost to the Heat. And then he went and won a championship with them the next year. Miami. No one cares. No, no, I'm saying... Is it because Ray Allen wasn't as big as KD? Or had the potential? It all depends on who made the narrative. Which person said this narrative when that trade happened?
Starting point is 01:14:59 That's all that really matters because... When does reality kick in for some of these old dudes, man? That's how I be feeling sometimes. I be feeling like the old dudes be mad at, like, the money these players getting, the rules, and they just always got something to say. It's just like, bro, like. But when you see the bread that some of these dudes are making and not anybody in particular. But then be mad at your mama for having you early.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Nah, it's. You know what I mean? Like, don't be mad at the players It's morality though It's the morals of the game That's what Shaq talking about Man back then The morals of the game was
Starting point is 01:15:34 If I'd have known that it was okay To leave my main team To go partner up with other niggas That I'm trying to beat Shit I would have just went to go play with Mike If Larry and Magic Would have known I would've just went to go play with Mike. If Larry and Magic would've known, like, all right, it's okay for me to go leave my castle. I'm about to leave my castle
Starting point is 01:15:53 to go over here and play with these niggas. When you the king of your castle and you leave, you're not the king no more. So he wasn't a king when he came to L.A.? That's the thing. I was an Orlando fan. We won 60 games. We were number one in the Eastern Conference, third overall in the NBA when he left to go
Starting point is 01:16:15 come here. But he wasn't leaving to go team up with somebody. No, no. Damn, you're right. He didn't team up with a team that had 53 wins. Yeah, they didn't have a superstar The wins ain't got shit to do with it. It wasn't no magic. It wasn't no Kareem. It wasn't no wasn't no Hakeem It was nobody out there in LA
Starting point is 01:16:37 So it's Shaq with the B Shaq now where cuz it was Shaq so right so yeah Like if I would have known that if I would have just win, but that's cap, it's not. It is cap because who had the cap? What did you say? There was no stars here, but they were a good team because they had 53 wins without a star. So he felt that, ooh, they got all the money. Remember, he was a free agent and he signed a $106 million deal. He signed whatever. Now think about where he said he would have went. This is where delusion kicks in.
Starting point is 01:17:05 I would have went to the Bulls The championship Bulls he's saying before that I would have went wouldn't mean before that there was a free agent then he would have went To the Bulls. That was the champs that just signed 96 that just signed MJ to that three-year $30,000,000 deal which the cap was only fucking $38 million, so obviously the Bulls was not looking for Shaq or could have paid Shaq the $10 million a year that he was trying to get. So that move wouldn't have even been possible.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Jerry Krause wasn't even looking at this. Scotty Bibby? Huh? Scotty and Shaq's trade? I don't know if Scotty's brother. Michael Jordan just signed for $30 million. He killed the cap. That cap was, that's the same year.
Starting point is 01:17:50 We'll go over. Same summer, the cap was taken off. Everybody he would have thought about going to, the cap was gone. Lakers was the only team, and he was under the table deal. He knew where he was coming. 53 wins, that's where he was coming. 53 wins, that's where I'm going. 53, they got all the money, here I come.
Starting point is 01:18:11 But aside from that, aside from that. Aside from that, let me see, he went to... No, aside from Shaq. Aside from us using Shaq as a leverage. I'm just saying as far as the morals of the decision making that KD is looked at this way and Ray Allen's not looked at this way
Starting point is 01:18:27 is because it's KD. It's KD, the star player. You just lost to these niggas as a star player and you go over here and you play with the same niggas. But if that's the narrative you want to... Look, we can use any narrative we want to try to discredit someone's career, right? We can use it all we want to try to discredit, but
Starting point is 01:18:45 I swear to God, when he went to Miami, he's trying to chase a championship. What teams did he go to to try to get the championship, the fifth one? Cavaliers. Who was there? Celtics. LeBron James, they're the number one team, he jumped there. Phoenix Suns. Boston, jumped there. Phoenix Suns, he tried to get his fifth championship,
Starting point is 01:19:07 and we're not going to pretend it didn't happen? Yeah. Come on, we can't do this. We don't care what year your career was. We don't look at you no different. And them teams was already... If you would have had five rings or four, you're still in my top five, period.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Are you saying that Shaq is a hypocrite? All of them are. The team already was established. Your history is hypocrite. If you're not the main guy, Shaq wasn't the main guy. No, when he was trying to chase it? Yeah, he wasn't the main guy. No.
Starting point is 01:19:34 He was a contributor. But that's what I'm saying. Because there was no social media to point it out, they get to pretend that their life was this stellar thing. That's the one problem He won three titles as the main guy. Yeah, that's why he could stand on it, but he left but he left to go do that He left to go do that. He didn't do that in Orlando. He got dropped about Orlando magic number one How many championships he got in Orlando?
Starting point is 01:20:01 Not a near another but mocked to his defense he did join forces and that's what the conversation is he did join forces he left here because Michael Jordan came back he did not who did he join forces with Eddie Jones Eddie Jones and Nick Van Exel
Starting point is 01:20:20 the young and up and coming team that's not what he's talking about they won 53 games and you're adding Shaquille O'Neal. That's not what he's talking about, though. Knowing that they can buy anybody. You won 60 games. Michael Jordan came back. He was like, fuck, I'm out of here.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Play it again. I'm out of here. Play it again. He's not talking about that. I'd rather go against Hakeem Olajuwon, who was whooping my ass as a youngin'. I'd rather go play there knowing that his old ass got old. And I'd rather leave because Michael Jordan just came back. I don't have a chance to make the championship.
Starting point is 01:20:56 That was the move. Nope. Come on. Nope. Let's stop pretending what these old dudes did. No, that's not what he's saying, though. What he's saying? Not the context.
Starting point is 01:21:05 He's saying, I would have went and teamed up with other super guys for a super team. He's not talking about this. He left and went and played with a team that had a good record. Not super players. That's what he's saying. He couldn't back then. The money was blocked. Because the team he chose didn't have super players.
Starting point is 01:21:25 The money was blocked. Everybody was capped didn't have super players. The money was blocked. Everybody was capped off. That's what he's talking about. If I'd have known. He knew that. He knew that. What are you talking about? Oh, he didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:21:35 Oh, he just decided to take $106 million at the Lakers. That's the only team. I'm going to be the only guy. I'm the main guy. It's my castle. There's no one else here to claim the throne the money. I'm going to be the only guy. I'm the main guy. It's my castle. There's no one else here to claim the throne but me. I'm the man. You was in Orlando, 60 wins with all the money.
Starting point is 01:21:52 It's me and Penny. With all the money in the world. Now, you tell me this. Let's just be honest. They have Shaquille O'Neal, Penny Penny and a full salary cap to go buy his first year was 10 million dollars Jordan was making 30
Starting point is 01:22:11 10 30 now imagine the players they could have got in Orlando but no no no no no he wanted to be Shaq Diesel he wanted to be a rapper he wanted to be all this that's why he came to LA because he knows La You demand greatness. I come here. I can pull anybody I can create super deep
Starting point is 01:22:32 So I don't have to leave once I got here. He didn't want to leave LA Kobe Kobe put his foot down say hey Hey me or him. Mm-hmm me or him and if you take him, if you pick me, tell Phil, package it too. That was that move. Other than that, they wasn't trying to get rid of Shaquille O'Neal. When Charles Barkley went to Houston, was it a super team? Yes. Okay, so that's... When he went to Suns... So,
Starting point is 01:22:57 what this nigga is talking about is when these type of decisions were made, well, Charles is no longer the main guy. He's a contributor. He goes to Houston. But you consider it a super team because now he's leaving a team where he couldn't win in Phoenix. He was the main guy.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Who was the main guy? Charles in Phoenix. Then he goes to Houston where he's not the main guy. Hakeem is the main guy. But now we think we got a better chance because we got another guy who was the main guy and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Shaq is saying, when I was in Orlando, I had the opportunity to go wherever. I went to a place where I'm
Starting point is 01:23:34 still the guy. I'm not teaming up with nobody. I'm not teaming up. Why does it matter? Why you got to leave? That's his context of what he's talking about. I don't give a fuck how he uses the logic. I don't care how he uses his logic. You're switching it though. Cuz that's what he's talking about He's talking about it even up. He said if I knew I would have went with so you put everything in context though, right? Yes, he left things out about what Gillis and if
Starting point is 01:24:00 The way things are lined up now far as money and certain things It was pop it was possible, but then it wasn't Right if he gonna say that he need to say the whole context of the story, right? The money was this and this and this Teams was more handicapped then than they are now. He went to the best team that had the most money. So what Gil said, it was physically impossible for him to go join Chicago. But that was one team that he's referencing. They did not trade Shaq.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Because he said Mike. They didn't trade Shaq. Shaq was a free agent, so Shaq got to go wherever he wanted to. So he took the team that had the best team with the most money. And didn't have any other superstars. Who was it? What Gil's saying is if it was possible for him to go play with Mike and get that same amount of money, would he? That's what he's saying.
Starting point is 01:25:01 He wouldn't have because they frowned upon that. No, they didn't. Shaq's saying he wouldn't have because he they frowned upon that Check saying he would have he would have Morally is not acceptable. He's saying niggas wasn't doing that shit like that. That's what that's what second Sam When when he went to with our King When he went to Houston, Todd Drexler was the man in fucking Portland. But that's what he said. He said, I would have just went to Portland.
Starting point is 01:25:30 He said, I would have just went to Portland and teamed with Clyde. It was acceptable. Portland in 95-96. That's what Shaq was saying. They didn't have the money. It's the same thing Barkley tried to do. Barkley tried to go to the same fucking team. I want to be traded to Portland because they just went to the championship.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Portland's like, we don't need you. We don't want you. All right. Who's the next best team? Phoenix. Let me go to the same fucking team. I want to be traded to Portland because they just went to the championship. Portland's like, we don't need you. We don't want you. All right, who's the next best team? Phoenix? Let me go to Phoenix. But that's what Shaq said. Now they want to say,
Starting point is 01:25:51 these guys are trying to super the same shit you just tried to do. But look, this is what I'm saying. KD, in Shaq's defense of what he's saying about KD, is the fact that KD came from
Starting point is 01:26:03 being this guy with three other superstars, and you're going being this guy with three other superstars and you going to this team with three other superstars and it's like he's saying you're not going to be considered a go in my book because that was frowned upon during my time. But then why did you try to do it? Why did you do it?
Starting point is 01:26:18 He didn't try to do it. He did. No he didn't. You're just saying that if it was possible to do it he would have tried to do it, but that ain't the case. He was a free agent. He went to LA where there was more superstars. So the Miami thing, right?
Starting point is 01:26:33 The Miami ring, right? If he don't, who team was that? What you mean? Who team was that? It was Shaq. It was Shaq team. Are you serious? Yeah I mean who team was there was Shaq? Was Shaq team. Are you serious? Yeah, the Miami team. Yeah, that was his thing. Okay, so whoever's 35 Oh, whoever's 35. Yeah, that's in the finals. Listen, all right. No, we gotta let young fella do his thing. No, I team I just want to ask you a question
Starting point is 01:26:59 So when I said he ran from the Bulls that that's this is the year the Bulls win 72 and 10. They win 72 and 10. Orlando was second with 60 and 22. Right? So I'm a free agent. We just won 60 fucking games. Now, I got to try to find somewhere to compete with Michael Jordan. Right?
Starting point is 01:27:22 San Antonio has who? I can't go to San Antonio, right? David Robinson and Tim Duncan. Can't go there. That's what he said, though. Didn't he say San Antonio was one of the teams? I can't go to San Antonio. They have David Robinson and Tim Duncan.
Starting point is 01:27:34 What am I playing? There's no money. Where am I playing? But they got two bigs. They already got two bigs. Yeah, there's two bigs already and no money. Jazz, Jazz, they don't have no money.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Salt Lake City, too. That's number two. The third best team, oh! Lakers! Lakers. Oh, shit, and they got money. And they don't got nobody over there. They got all-stars. Oh, my gosh, bro. He goes
Starting point is 01:28:04 to the team Are you not listening Right. I know they always both right. I don't know just want to be no you're trying to do a shag did there's a team list boom, there's one two three four my black ass is Going exactly down the list. I They don't need me okay to I think in a for me three. Oh, oh, they got all the money. I want let me go here make sense You're going you're still going to the you're going to the number one option exactly for you
Starting point is 01:28:54 the third best team with the money if they didn't have the money he was not going there so so you can't use the narrative that you want to make him look guilty when you look guilty in the same cut in the same type of narrative and say Gil, you're wrong because I didn't say any of the shit that you're saying. I said no. I said no. I said no. And then I said, you know what? Let me go here because this is the team that's open. This is a team with no stars and I could take this team somewhere.
Starting point is 01:29:18 I want to go here. Now, we won't know who. He said no. I said, we won't know that until Shaq tell us what he said during the options that he was given. We can't put them options in his mouth. won't know that until Shaq tell us what he said during the options that he was given, we can't put them options in his mouth. He the only one that can tell us, this is what I said when they gave me all the options I had. Who gave him all the options?
Starting point is 01:29:32 His agent. Huh? His agent. Hey, Shaq, look. This is free agency. We can go here, here, here, here. Hey, man, I want to go here. It's L.A.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Hollywood. You know me. I'm me. Let's go here. Ain't nobody there. That's a Hollywood in here. It's L.A. Hollywood. You know me. I'm me. Let's go here. Ain't nobody there. That's a Hollywood in Orlando. Let's go. Hey, hey, hey, Shaq.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Hey, Shaq, you a free agent. It's a Hollywood in Florida, not in Orlando. It's a Hollywood in Florida. In Florida, not in Orlando. You's a free agent. Where you want to go? Not let's stay here. Not let's stay here.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Where you want to go? I want to go somewhere bigger. Because I want to win. I want to go not let's stay here Not let's stay here where you want to go. I want to go somewhere bigger. I want to I want to go to a bigger market I want to say I want to go win somewhere because obviously I can't win here It's a small but are we trying to pretend that the motherfuckers that win 60 games, but now Jordan's back So I can't win in the East so let me go see what the best option is for me. You're talking about a guy. Orlando has all the money. Didn't they beat Jordan? The year before. Did they beat him though, right? The year before. When Michael Jordan just got
Starting point is 01:30:36 back. I don't want to hear those excuses though. No, that's not an excuse. I'm an Orlando Magic fan. So obviously my daddy's Michael Jordan fan. So I'm celebrating like a motherfucker. Then they came back the next year. Pop 60, 72 wins.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Oh, I need to get the fuck out of here. No, that wasn't it. I need to get the fuck out of here. That wasn't it. And he left. That wasn't it. Shaq. Shaq.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Shaq. Shaq. Hey, Shaq. Shut up. Hold up. Yeah, he ain't going to tell. Shaq. The fuck he going to tell that story for why he left? Shaq. Shaq! Hey Shaq! Hold up! He ain't gonna tell that story for why he left. Shaq! I already asked.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Shaq! You think I just come on here just talking? I already asked. Shaq! I already done it. The deal was already done. That's why when it made news, like oh shit Shaq left, yeah it was already done at the table. Fuck we talking about? Yeah the Olympics that year, Kazam also came out that summer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:25 He knew where he was going. Kazam also hit theaters that summer. The reason they can do this is because there was no social media back then. And there's no players that called him out because the media then didn't call him out. So when they say this shit, the media
Starting point is 01:31:42 is not going to call him out now. That is a problem. problem see they don't when I read have you noticed every time I research one of the motherfuckers they don't never respond Whenever I research them and give them a truth they don't respond Shaq Shaq, Big Diesel. Hey! I'm trying to get this, man. All I'm saying is you got to explain why you had 60 wins and left. I mean, that's the point. Shaq, if you would like to refute any of Gil's claims...
Starting point is 01:32:18 Number two in the East, why would you leave such a great situation? Shaq, if you would like to refute Gil's claims, please pull up to Gil's reader, present about our fantasy group. What happened to Orlando after Shaq left? We went downhill. Okay. What happened in LA when Shaq got there? Okay, what is the question?
Starting point is 01:32:36 I just wanted to know. I just wanted to know why you would leave, you have 60 wins, and your team is popping. Because when I left, my team didn't have 60 wins no more. Or you just... Because I know if Jordan never came back Orlando was winning the championship It's just like LeBron leaving Cleveland and then clean out 60 wins moving and they don't know Yeah, taking my talents of South Beach. So because why so big I want to work it out here So that's exactly or bigger market out here. Yes, but y'all come in the same thing to the but but he don't want to blame doesn't sin he does that
Starting point is 01:33:09 He does the same thing but try this is what he does. He don't want to let go win So if if LeBron is being penalized for why aren't we pulling the people who are trying to throw the narrative? Yeah, I'm with stop stop here. Stop. Stop tearing down Stop tearing down this era what they're doing when they're following the era. Stop tearing down the era talking about their prima donnas
Starting point is 01:33:36 when you was a prima donna. Stop doing that. Because social media gets the carriers when the social media didn't exist there. But you was prima don media gets the carriers when the social media didn't exist there But you was prima donnas to you did the same thing you're powdered and complained, right? Do we have to go back to articles? Do we have to go back to Gary Payton saying you did a tit-for-tantrum cuz when you came to LA Dwyane Wade was going back and forth for Kobe, and you're like, oh, hold on.
Starting point is 01:34:08 He wants to shake his head. Can you go to the first time they played the Lakers and see how many shots Shaq shot and see how many shots Wade shot, and then when they went to Sacramento, who didn't play because he was pissed off? Please don't tell me. It was Shaquille O'Neal. And then Gary Payton
Starting point is 01:34:23 had to say, hey, hold on, big fella. If fella if we trying to win we have to give him the team Is that I was in the article that is that was in the article. I don't just say shit. I'm just saying Was that an article that was an article? That was good. What where does information comes came from an article? Hey first in Miami at Lakers on Christmas. If you ain't know nothing about this motherfucker, he just ain't going to see it. First game, Miami at Lakers.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I remember being in the Fox Hills Mall during that time. Shaq came back through. It was a momentous occasion. He was back in L.A. Shaq DeClaus, whatever he called himself at that point. D-Wade took 26 shots in that game. Shaq took 19 shots in that game. And then who did he play next game?
Starting point is 01:35:09 Was it Sacramento? I think it was Atlanta, but let me double check. Shaq! I mean, I thought you was his defense attorney. She getting itchy around here. She getting a little itchy around here. You the prosecutor. I'm the defense.
Starting point is 01:35:29 But I'm just saying. If you the prosecutor, I'm the defense. What I'm saying is, remember, Dwayne Wade was on in the second year. He wasn't trying to get that team over. What ended up happening is when Gary Payton came the following year and they had this little stretch without Shaq and they seen a young fella doing his thing thing Gary Peyton had to sit Shaq down and said we need to move he's on record saying it he's on record saying it that
Starting point is 01:35:55 he had to tell Shaq to stand down cuz Shaq wasn't giving it up just like he didn't want to give it up to Kobe so you saying he can't give it up to Kobe but then he gonna give it to give it up for a second year player? I know he went on record saying, you know, I had to sit a young fella down and say, this is your team. It's not Kobe's team, but you come here to a second year player and say, yo, this is your team?
Starting point is 01:36:16 Let's be honest. Like, why are we... I know we trying to clean up our shit, but history is history. So it was his team. The first year, that's the reason they didn't win. Yeah. Yeah, they were still bumping heads and then Gary Payton they got all the veterans and the veterans had to sit Shaq down and say This is this is his team. Okay, and then my team and then I'm a vote come here. Then we took a backseat
Starting point is 01:36:37 Yeah, we trying to win. Mm-hmm You don't need to Google. I did that already Sorry, it's already Google. So you can just go the next stop. He ain't got nothing else to say. Shaq. Yeah, he's just... Kill O'Neal. Shaq. What is he speaking?
Starting point is 01:36:52 He spoke his truth. I just want him to come on the show. Oh, okay. I just want him to say something. It ain't nothing. You know what I'm saying? It ain't nothing that there's... I'm just saying don't throw stones.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Don't throw stones at players. Like, if his legacy is tainted, then we might need to just go back through history then. We just need to just open up the history books and then say, all right, hey, Parker, when you wanted to trade out of Philly, your first request was Portland? Why Portland?
Starting point is 01:37:23 Oh, they went to the championship a year before. So adding you, that's a guaranteed win. Okay, because you couldn't be Michael Jordan in Philly, so your ass had to go here. And then second option was Suns. Phoenix. That's amazing. See, you add you to them. That makes y'all a championship contender.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Did y'all go to the championship? Yep, y'all did. Y'all went to the championship. So you're being controlled by these two guys, and then you won MVP, then it becomes your team the following year. And what happened after that? Oh, loss, first round.
Starting point is 01:37:56 So you went championship, first round, first round, didn't make the playoffs, and then you demanded out. And where did you want to go? Goddamn two-time champions want to go there? Mr. Rock. Where did y'all go? Goddamn two-time champions? Want to go there? Where did y'all go? Western Conference finals? And then the following year, you know,
Starting point is 01:38:12 you done soaked your feet into it and what did y'all do? First round, lost. Lost. US had to retire. Ah, so basically everywhere you go, goddammit, your first year is successful, then after that it's just... Who did Charles Barkley play with?
Starting point is 01:38:26 With the 76ers. Who was on his team? Oh, Moses Malone and Dr. J. That's when they went to the Eastern Conference Finals. And Maurice Cheeks. Uh-huh. And then the following year when it was his team. And who was on that Portland team?
Starting point is 01:38:39 Clyde Drexler and all. Yeah. And who? Terry Portnoy. Who? Yeah, they went to the championship. Name them again. I just want to hear your names compared to the seven sisters so you know he got drafted he's leaving three no no no no no no no no
Starting point is 01:38:53 don't do that oh no no I'm just asking oh okay that's been you since you're trying to math it okay if it's just Clyde Drexler I give you the math and ain't ain't I give you I give you the math um It ain't... Here, I'll give you the math. Was Kevin Duckworth still there? What happened is when he got drafted to Philly, he was not happy with it because where he was going and then the money that they promised him wasn't there, so he didn't even want to be there. He did not want to be there.
Starting point is 01:39:18 That's... Did not want to be there. They already had superstars, right? He's not that dude coming off the bench a little bit. They leave, and then it becomes his team dude coming off the bench a little bit. They leave, and then it becomes his team. So they went to the Eastern Conference, you know, finals, and he's third, fourth option on the team.
Starting point is 01:39:36 When those guys, think about the names I'm saying, Moses Malone and Dr. J, they're old. They leave, then it's his team, and then from there, just like any follower, we're going to make a left, and then from there just like any follower We're gonna make a left and then we just gonna go downhill from here and when he had enough of going downhill He wanted to go to Clyde Drexler and them who went to the championship 50-something wins like they had 50s even Phoenix Suns 55 wins 53 wins 55 wins. That's where he decided to land his feet Remember he was so happy that they chose him. He had to wear 23 in the all-star game. Thank you. Mr
Starting point is 01:40:12 Colangelo I'm wearing 23 because that's what you wore in college. Yes, sir Yes, sir He was so happy. He was a team that wanted him is that he wore 23 in a goddamn Also, I've never ever ever in my life seen a dude who has his own fucking number 34 go to the all-star game and think another person. Thank you. I appreciate you Thank you master. I don't think I don't think he was I don't think he I don't think that's a verbatim Oh, I don't think that's what he said. Let me hear. Let me hear. What was the quote? What was the quote why he wore 23? It's not I don't know if not math and man
Starting point is 01:40:55 It's not math and a math not math and was that sounds good. What is that method? It's just not math which part which party any of it any part is I use in you? Him leaving the team he was on to go play with these guys on the West. Leaving the East. Who's in the West? To go to the West where the records are different, of course. Oh yeah, they have a better record. They have a better record, but I went and go play with a team... He said, Jerry got me out of purgatory was, I believe, the quote.
Starting point is 01:41:22 Purgatory. So the positioning of my position being able to be open if important who do they have a power for nobody okay who do they have in Phoenix at power for nobody okay so it makes sense for me to implement myself into a place that needed me a place that needed my position they need my position at this place I don't want to be over here I never wanted to be here get me the fuck out of here. Where can I go on the West? Did the Warriors not need KD's position?
Starting point is 01:41:49 You see how you do that? Yes, they needed a small forward. Okay. Why? Why did they need a small forward? Harrison Barnes? No, no, no. The year before, they lost because...
Starting point is 01:41:59 LeBron James. And who was guarding him? Nobody. There was no offset for that. So... Opening. here's an opening? So why is Kevin Durant going to a place? He need he going to a good team that needs him Charles Barkley was trying to go to a team That won six that went to the championship and they say if you add me in this position Boom because I don't want to be here. Okay, and
Starting point is 01:42:24 Kevin Durant, I don't want to be here. Okay, and Kevin Durand didn't want to be here. You see how we... That's my thing. The same thing. So why are we penalizing them? And you guys are like, oh, yes. I never said that the KD situation was a bad situation. This is what he's saying.
Starting point is 01:42:40 But I'm saying that Shaq's morality of why it is a bad decision comes from the fact that it wasn't allowed to do that shit back then, in his mind. I don't give a fuck about his mind. Reality is reality. In my mind, just like you do, I'm the greatest motherfucker of all time. And then there's reality. Right? You can't prove me wrong.
Starting point is 01:43:00 So let's keep this moving. Speaking of super teams, after an embarrassing showing at the World Cup last summer, Team USA is looking to show they are still the best in the game at the Olympics. This summer... I mean, your rules don't play no defense, so we good. There's been debate and speculation on which 12 players will represent in Paris, and according to Shams and Joe Varden, the team is taking shape. So we've got...
Starting point is 01:43:20 Wait, what? According to reports, Gil, amongst Team USA... Are they having secret tryouts? This is what they're expected to be, the core players. LeBron, Steph, KD, Embiid, Tatum, Booker, Drew Holiday. This is obviously barring any injury issues. I'm just telling you what's being reported. And then under strong consideration, the only holdovers from the actual World Cup team,
Starting point is 01:43:43 Anthony Edwards, Tyrese Halliburton. So as as you can see if you're good at math that's nine I'm good at the method I can math okay that's nine people right there super sorry superstar superstar superstar okay okay then download future superstar future superstar that is not cool. So I'm not making sure now you said this how many spots left? There are 12 12 total spots. There are three Potential routes spots left if this is hot if this holds I see five I see and be not playing Okay, and then I seen another person that shouldn't be owner. Yeah How many how many people they tried on, like 38?
Starting point is 01:44:27 I think there was an initial pool of players that they were picking from. Again, this is a report that barring injury, it would be the seven as the core, with Halliburton and Edwards under strong consideration. So that would put nine, that would leave three additional spots open. Embiid is not gonna play.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Embiid's not gonna play, so that opens up four. Embiid is not going to play, so that opens up four. Okay. Then there's another person on that top tier. I'm pretty sure we can wait. We can hold off on him for a while. I mean, I'm just saying there's at least 22 guards I can pick before we get to, you know what I mean? Good team guy.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Went to a great university. No, no, no. Great team guy. Solid education. Great defense. I'm just saying team guy. I went to a great university. No, no no great Education is it right now? I'm just saying just right now. I mean just right now. That's enough Oh, we need right now. So we we tried that team shit last year Right now we don't need no team shit right now. We don't need no glue nothing No, no, no. We need foot to ass
Starting point is 01:45:25 in every position, okay? We need Dame Lillard. Yeah, we need... Shit. Unless he bring his family, we can hold off on that too. And I'm just saying, I need the motivation.
Starting point is 01:45:35 I'm just saying, you know, right now, unless he gets to bring the motivation and we get Dame time, other than that, right now, we need foot to ass.
Starting point is 01:45:45 All right? So, yo, other than that, right now, we need foot to ass. All right? So, yo, based on that list, just coming from Team USA. Who else is, what other, four? I mean, Embiid can't play, so we need four. Let's say, okay, we'll say Embiid hypothetically cannot play and is just four players. What four players would you add to that roster? Jay Alexander, for sure. No, he's Canadian.
Starting point is 01:46:06 He's playing with Canada. Oh, shit, I forgot about that. He is North American, though. Shout out. Would you add to that roster? What a Alexander for sure? Canadian he playing Here's North American the great shot out got about that. You need American big so in the ad ad Need another one. You also have bam out of bios a potential option. You got to go with bam. You got a Bam or check. I mean check defense. I I Bam or Chet? I mean, Chet defense. I'd go with Bam. I'm going with Bam. I'd go with Bam. You want Bam?
Starting point is 01:46:28 Yeah, I'd go with Bam. Years. Years. I don't think years got nothing to do with it. I'm not mad at either one. Me neither. I'm not mad at either one. Ah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Features, Chet. I mean, yeah, lineup, Chet, LeBron, and KD out there. That could be weird. That could be interesting for how to guard that. I wouldn't be mad at any of them. But who we got first? We got... AD.
Starting point is 01:46:56 AD or Chet or both. Who? Ja? Who? Ja's shoulder probably will not... So wait, I mean, don't give a fuck if he was... Shit who? Jah Shoulder Listen if he was healthy John Moran ain't going to the fucking Olympics really would we look This Olympics if he was healthy Really not then not this. Yes. Goddamn really was without the troubles
Starting point is 01:47:22 Oh, no, we thought about everything included right now What if he was healthy right now, everything included has been going on. You're not going to the Olympics trust me She might get popping off in Paris. Yeah, you can count on one person I'm going to if he played from the beginning of the year and did what he did What if he balls oh no, it's not this is my dog Hold on remember this isn't if he wasn't hurt. No if he was what this is Nike if he wasn't hurt He would definitely like this is Nike now. You're gonna push it 100,000 percent now. You don't push it. I'm not gonna argue this
Starting point is 01:48:02 You know not we're not gonna debate, you know, like you gonna push I don't give a fuck what product they pushing now. You don't give a fuck about what goddamn USA with Adam Silver got going on They don't give a fuck Adam got control over goddamn. He ain't got control over bus Who you see got Adam's who know what would you just before that? What did you say? He ain't got control said Nike. Yeah You remember when you remember when they suspended they took his shoes off and all them kids say what the fuck you doing? Yeah, the key so what about like CG Kawaii Those names do anything for you. We already talked about image and shit in the memory Fuck you think Draymond didn't make you four? Because we don't need no Draymond
Starting point is 01:48:46 Greek. But it wasn't about his basketball skill. Gil, you said if shit gets popping, if shit gets popping, you need somebody you know who's not afraid to choke a Frenchman. Image matters. I'm Nike. Image matters. The only thing that matters to me is him selling them shoes. And that's the Gilbert Arenas.
Starting point is 01:49:02 Yes. And we're talking about USA Basketball. USA Basketball. Once again, we already been down to... And we're talking about USA Basketball. USA Basketball. Once again, we already been down this. Who is the committee of USA Basketball? We already talked. Grant Hill. And therefore. We're talking about.
Starting point is 01:49:11 And no bad press. No bad press for USA Basketball. I'm giving y'all 20. I'm giving y'all a billion dollars. I don't give a fuck what you're talking about. This man. Once again. In his shoes.
Starting point is 01:49:23 Once again. Is on his team. Once again. The Medidas can get the fuck on that once again I'm gonna check once again. Yeah, no no no y'all remember this right one coach. Okay the Medina's Okay Hey step right in front of them says hmm. They not put okay No, no we're talking about the NBA Team we're talking about how we're sitting right here. Nike told him you better do what we're talking about the limit
Starting point is 01:49:53 That shit out in the Olympics. It was the we're talking about image here. That was the We're not talking about fucking shoes and we're talking about a young boy that's going around fucking Brandishing firearms in public. That's what the fuck we're talking about here. And we're talking about image for USA Basketball. Stop it. We already been down this road, Gil. You can keep trying it. We already been down this road. This is the business of
Starting point is 01:50:16 entertainment. And we're talking about USA the Olympics. We're not talking about the fucking NBA or Nike, dog. So you're not fucking with God because of the mistake he made? Who is paying? I'm not saying me. His skill
Starting point is 01:50:32 set says yes. His actions and everything around him saying he wouldn't have been able to be a part of this Olympics in 2024 with the actions that have transpired. What the fuck I'm saying? This happened last year. Who paying the check?
Starting point is 01:50:49 The Olympics is this summer. He's not playing in the Olympics. He's not playing. He don't get hurt. He playing. Not a chance. For sure. Not a chance. 2028, clean slate. This Olympics was shot because he got hurt either way.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Okay. But if all things, if he is healthy, if he had a healthy NBA season right now, after the suspension, right, the 25 games he got suspended this NBA season, he come back healthy and he played the rest of this season clean. He would not have been a part of the Olympics in this summer. So does that help a guy like Paul George who also has a signature shoe with Nike? He's talking about image
Starting point is 01:51:34 here, dog. No, I get what you're saying, but if he ball out, he's cleaning his image up. It doesn't matter. He still did 25 games. It's a redemption story, too. It's a redemption story. He still did 25 games. It's a redemption story, too. It's a redemption story. He still did 25 games.
Starting point is 01:51:50 And we're talking about image here. Yes. This is America, man. Image of USA Bad. We're not talking about the Memphis Grizzlies. We're not talking about the NBA logo here. We're not talking about the Nike logo here. We're talking about USA Sports.
Starting point is 01:52:05 We're talking about that. We're not talking about the Nike logo here. We're talking about USA Sports. We're talking about that. We're talking about... USA Sports is bigger during the summer than the NBA, dog. And it's done with no bad press. We've already been there. No bad press. What was the bad press before him? What was the bad press?
Starting point is 01:52:21 What player? Who made it? Kobe Bryant twice okay and what do you have to do before that you have to do nothing he try to play he wasn't he wasn't trying to go to the USA did he was a you that was the only USA that happened after right this wasn't it all This wasn't Adidas. This was Nike. So you want to keep bringing up that check. If Nike
Starting point is 01:52:50 is sponsoring it, I'm going to have all my big guns on it. Well, guess what? Being the, like I said, we're talking about image here. Big time players. Image. No, I'm with you on image.
Starting point is 01:53:05 Image matters to who? It doesn't matter to me. To the world, Gilbert Arenas. So take yourself out of it, Gilbert. We're not talking about you or me here. I'm not talking about you. I'm talking about yourself. We're not talking about yourself.
Starting point is 01:53:16 I have to sit down with owners in these companies. Who? Who? You did? Or do you? Go talk to USA Basketball. Go talk to the you just go talk to USA Basketball. Go talk to the people on the committee at USA Basketball, then come talk to me. And ask them, do image matter?
Starting point is 01:53:32 And ask them one question. I'm going to ask them, who writes your check and what is the rule? Does image matter? Not more than the money. Does image matter? Why did Allen Iverson play on that 0-14? Why didn't he play on the 0-18? Image got to matter, right? I'm just saying though, image matter. Why did Allen Iverson play on that 0-14? Why didn't he play on the 0-18? Image got to matter, right?
Starting point is 01:53:48 I'm just saying, though. Image matter. So until you go ask these people this question. Who had an 0-4? Then you ain't got an answer to me. Like you said, you do your research, right? What was that spot? Like you said, you do your research, right? Who was it?
Starting point is 01:53:57 You said you do your research, right? Who was it? You do your research, right? When you wore it. You do your research, right? Yes, I do. So do your research and go ask USA committee basketball the questions that need to be asked about image and certain things when they're selecting the team and Asked me if that shit matter and then you come talk to me about it until then we don't even keep talking man
Starting point is 01:54:13 LeBron James is we don't keep talking about it ain't no goddamn committee man LeBron James and Kevin Durant do what is picking a team? Okay. It is not no fucking committee I'm no great Hill and Colangelo. LeBron, who you want to play with? Your Nike, that Nike building you got. Just because you want to get loud about Nike and all that shit, you're still fucking wrong. What year did Melo get from? What the fuck are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:54:39 Until you go ask these people the question, there's nothing for us to continue to talk about, Gil. Like you said, do your fucking research like you do. Pick up the phone, call the people on the USA committee, and ask them the fucking question. And then we can have this conversation. Because I'm pretty sure it fucking matters. It definitely matters. Because like they said, he came out and made the statement about Draymond Green.
Starting point is 01:55:00 06, 07, I think. Right? 06, 07. Mello played on what? The man here came out and said right after we had the conversation. Mello played on 08 seven mellow played on what you make it your head came out of said rather We have the color. Oh wait Oh, no, it's funny. He had the gun and he had the gun charge. He had the gun shit horse and who had a gun Mellow had the gun shit what gun when he got in trouble for the the gun and in in the bag and shit It was we actually went to gun. I thought it was a gun
Starting point is 01:55:22 It was we somebody took the blame for but it this whatever it was on the team whatever it was I was on the team on that was a bad image Look, I was on the team and somebody took the fall for it But they look somebody got in trouble for but not mellow his name was brought to the surface somebody I was on the plane when the shit happened right so I'm saying you're saying you want to believe what you think No, what I'm saying the image You want to think what you think you know or what I'm saying is he said it was weeding Somebody took the for nobody took the fall for jot with a brandish in a gun
Starting point is 01:55:55 Regardless as in no, it ain't a fucking regard There's nothing other players who've had image problems that still played on the team. No, no, no That summer. Right? Any summer. No, no, no, no. So if it happened that year, right? Judges got to spend the 25 games this NBA season right here we're talking about. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:56:14 For troubles that happened this past summer. Yeah. The shit is fresh. It ain't had time to die down. But if he balling without the shoulder injury, does he die down by this summer? No, he just did the 25 games this year.
Starting point is 01:56:35 It's still in the calendar year 2024. He missed basketball games. It's already died down. We ain't talking about that shit no more. The calendar year 2024. The Olympics is the calendar year. They didn't talk about it when he hit that game winner they all of a sudden Wouldn't want that first game is they did that it was that motherfucker was a lighter a hundred percent They was not talking what time for it to die down
Starting point is 01:56:57 Little more time for it to die down, but there was no time for people to forget about it. Yeah But I guess we're saying on this couch though, and this is obviously all hypotheticals now because you got hurt in the shoulder, he came back, let's just say, through the grace of God. He got the Grizzlies to a chip. Would that have been enough to wipe the stain of the suspension? He'd get the Grizzlies to a chip. He played. Or even Western California.
Starting point is 01:57:17 In the 2028 Olympics we're talking about. Let's be realistic. In the 2028 Olympics. This summer, there would have still been no dice no matter what. I don't think so This is my just on the image Just from the world standpoint. We're not Listen people are watching. This is worldwide. It's all I'm saying that you want to keep talking about his fucking shoes
Starting point is 01:57:38 You do you so simple-minded dog you simple-minded as fuck. No, I'm disagreeing to man Both you motherfuckers simple mind, I'm disagreeing to man Disagreeing both you motherfuckers. I'm disagreeing the fuck Niggas wasn't talking about that shit after he came back. It was simple mind. Nobody was talking about I want to keep talking about the NBA the it Nike didn't drive Nike. Listen, did I keep talking about the shit? That's happening in the United States of America Fine, keep talking about it There's a whole world out there. Other countries.
Starting point is 01:58:11 They not talking about nothing no nigga doing over here. Okay. They not talking about nothing no nigga is doing over in America and playing basketball. When it comes to the Olympics, they are, Rashad. Hell no. They talking about that hummus. They talking about that shit, that real shit going on over there
Starting point is 01:58:25 It's real shit going over there ain't talking about the nigga Some nigga doing some shit gear club with a little gun shit. So people so so gun violence around the world is not real a hundred percent They would talk about it be talk about Chicago are we we talking about him? We took a fax or here at all No, no, no, no He's articles he told he didn't get in trouble branching file. No, no you're talking about what you've been arguing about This whole time is a hypothetical. No, what? We talk about image a USA we talk about image around the world is just so impeccable
Starting point is 01:59:02 Yes, they put John Moran on it. Everybody's going to be like, oh my God. We're not coming to the game. He's not on it. He's not on it. He's not on it. So therefore, like I said, until you do your due diligence and talk to the people and ask them about image, then you come talk to me, girl. Until then, it's a
Starting point is 01:59:20 mute point talking to you because you're so simple-minded you want to keep talking about fucking the NBA and Nike. Or simple-minded as you think. No, you're simple-minded. You're a simple minded you want to get talking about fucking the nba and nike or simple mind as you think no you're simple mind you think that you're a simple mind no you think that you think that you're simple mind because you don't run shit and you're you're telling me that you think i'm talking about usa basketball who's the best players in the league i'm talking about another nike players no no besides nike players i'm talking about usa basketball why you think certain players don't make the, what's the name? You're so simple-minded.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Once again, you're simple-minded. You want to keep talking about shoe companies and NBA. So we're not going to see NBA Rockets catchers in Paris. I'm not talking about that. The article that says Nike owns the Olympics? We don't want to talk about that. So like I said, until you go talk to the people on the USA basketball committee and ask them a question about image and stuff like that,
Starting point is 02:00:08 that's not the first thing you're talking about because you want to keep talking about the shit that people are on their feet. Keep thinking that way, Gilbert. Let me ask you this. You don't think that Nike can affect the decision with the Olympics? They can, yes. They're a sponsor of the Olympics. They say, I want Ja playing in the game.
Starting point is 02:00:23 With the image that he has right now. With this summer. It would have been a fucking conversation at a table And they would have Has passed yay or nay the first name you fire nigga you fire you fire you fire I'm not saying it's good ain't gonna happen, but it's a conversation about the image. It ain't just an automatic yes. It's not just an automatic yes. It's a conversation with, right? I'm with you. I'm with you on that. But this field, field, you don't want to think about that.
Starting point is 02:00:51 The conversation is, what did David Stern say? They was like, how many people voted? He said, none, just me. You're talking about field night and saying that these are the three players I want because they're my highest seller and there's going to be a committee sitting there having a conversation about it. I'm trying to figure out. They have a 39-year-old on the Olympics
Starting point is 02:01:10 because he said, I'm playing. So once again, he wants to be talking. So Gil, you don't think it would be a conversation that needs to be had? Like if they say, if Nike said... If you feel like, if you feel like, and this young man is selling your product and he's third
Starting point is 02:01:26 Is there a conversation that are you are you having them have a conversation? Are you mentioning his name? Are you mentioning his name? Okay Hilling them working for the Olympics might be like Working for Phil Knight if you there's a view our station if you are great So when Phil Knight. If you are Grant, you're working for Phil Knight. So when Phil Knight say stand down, stand down. Stand down, Grant.
Starting point is 02:01:52 Hey, Grant, stand down, Grant. Hey, Grant, Grant, Grant. We ain't asking shit now. That's why we sitting on this couch and not on the fucking committee. Like I said, there's nothing for us to keep talking about because you motherfuckers so simple-minded, y'all keep talking about the USA.
Starting point is 02:02:04 Like, there's shit outside of this motherfucking country that matter to people Outside it is right outside of this country. That's affecting this country. We talk about USA We talk about the Olympics. I say is representing about the Olympics once again I'm the USA representing the USA talking about the Olympics. Absolutely. Yes. I'm not Olympics I'm women, goddammit. Like, what part is don't you think about? Image matters. Because he's saying one country represents
Starting point is 02:02:31 one country. I'm not representing Africa with USA. They represent themselves. Who they put in their team. My job as USA is to whoop their ass and say we're the most powerful country in the world. Hence why most of them just be trying to take drugs to win their gold medals.
Starting point is 02:02:49 And USA players do too, motherfucker. Why do I care what their image is? Motherfuckers from USA get caught cheating too. What the fuck are you talking about here? So why do we care? What is it? How they look at us? How they look?
Starting point is 02:03:01 If a motherfucker get caught cheating with drugs, do you think they get invited back to the Olympics? Sha'Carri Richardson. She get caught cheating with with drugs. Do you think they get invited back to the Olympics? I'm hard Richardson She got caught smoking weed nigga. Let's call it. Is it that getting a drug? Why did they consider it? Sniffing coat no matter what you got He said don't do She failed a drug test. Okay, dog. Simple niggas.
Starting point is 02:03:27 Simple minded people. You can't keep. It's 1.30. She failed a drug test. Are we ready to do what we got to do, Steve? I'm not going to keep talking to you. She failed a drug test. And with that in mind, let's move on to Mostly Fans.
Starting point is 02:03:37 Our last segment of the day presented by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so already, download the app. Use promo code GILD. And they will match your first deposit up to $100. Segway J in full effect. Another productive spirit today on GIL's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy. Woof, woof.
Starting point is 02:03:53 If you had a good time watching this show, do us a favor. Download the app and use promo code GIL. First question is a video question from underdog user I Know G. What's up,ills arena my question is what would you title this chapter of your life? The simple-minded chapter motherfucker I'm next! Absolutely. I'm glad you know it. Bye, nigga! I'm glad y'all know it. Let's fucking go! Ah, shit!
Starting point is 02:04:34 Shit! I'm glad y'all know it. God damn it. Ain't nothing like being in tune with your goddamn self. Ain't nothing like looking in the mirror and knowing exactly who the fuck you are. Rashad, what would you title this chapter of your life?
Starting point is 02:04:49 Oh, man. Jeez. Oh, mm. Man. Something to do with the work. Let me figure it out. That could be the chapter. Something to do with the work. Let me figure it out. That could be the chapter. Something to do with the work.
Starting point is 02:05:06 Let me figure it out. My workout plan. Oh, shit. My work release program. Shit. Day in the life of the work, man. Whatever, nigga. Something to do with the work.
Starting point is 02:05:17 Releasing the work back to the street. Man, shit. Something. Okay. Sibba, what would you title this chapter of your life? Growth. I feel like I'm at a growth point in my life right now where you know leaving a lot of bad traits behind and growing into Good ones
Starting point is 02:05:34 We got a case of tomatoes Wrap tomato I know tomatoes, I know rap. Rap, tomato. Oh, shit. That's all I'm saying, what are you doing? Catch up? You can do a lot with tomatoes, bro. Tomato paste, what are we doing? Kain, what would you title this chapter of your life? Shit.
Starting point is 02:06:03 Frustrated, I'm just playing. Shit For straight Like we know like we know when to stand down when he look so what say what nigga So what I'm going to the bathroom You saw the simple like wait till he starts smiling again I'm just going to tuck my opinion in. I'm just going to tuck my opinion in. I ain't going to say shit now. Oh, God, this is stupid. So our next mostly fans question from Underdog User D from the go. Gil, this is for you.
Starting point is 02:07:20 Why don't you work in the front office? You seem to have the blueprint for building a roster and keeping players happy I Used to talk to Otis meant about this and he said as a as a hooper we know hoop We don't know business right, so The ideas that a hooper wants to do the business doesn't want to do it. Mm-hmm, right? So we'll are and I need this player, this player, this player. They don't look at it.
Starting point is 02:07:48 They look at the financials of it to see if it makes sense, to see if this. You know, so it's not about your knowledge of the game itself. It's about your knowledge of just making smart business moves. You know, so that's why there's more business. That's why somebody like Elton Brand is there than somebody named Maury comes. Right? So he has to stand down. So you don't really have
Starting point is 02:08:12 no power because you don't get to do the things you want to do. Like, if players had ultimate control, you would see some shit that you've never seen before. You're like, how the fuck he make this trade off? You know what I mean? Like, I have an open checkbook. You know, you got some land over here that you ain't even using.
Starting point is 02:08:30 Can I go ahead and put that on there? Okay, I got you. I got some land for you. Niggas need land. I got your 40 acres and a mule. Wait for you. Come on down here. Niggas got James Harden for two draft picks and a property.
Starting point is 02:08:49 I don't dare that serious, man. For real. Okay. Have y'all looked at some of those drafts in like the 70s? Yeah, shit trash. Somebody draft. Somebody draft. You know Scooby-Doo got drafted.
Starting point is 02:09:01 Yes, there was some crazy shit. A chair. A chair got drafted. Yes. Wait, what? Yes, there was some crazy shit going on back in the day, dog. You said Scooby-doo got drafted. Yes, it was some crazy stuff chair. Oh Chair got drafted. Yeah. Yes. There's crazy shit going on back in the day dog Okay, it's Caitlyn Jenner now but back when it was Bruce Bruce got drafted How did he got he got drafted? Who's Jenna got you? 158 how I
Starting point is 02:09:23 Mean they had like 300 draft picks back then, so anybody was getting drafted. But they were just drafting athletes. Yeah. Wow. Eighth pick of the seventh round in the 1977 NBA draft. It's on Pro Basketball Reference. I did not know that. You can Google it.
Starting point is 02:09:41 Hey, hey, hey. Listen, listen. What year was that? This year I was 1977. 77. Three years later, the 80s? That's the best era. That's the cat era.
Starting point is 02:09:54 They drafted Scooby-Doo. So the Celtics drafted a water boy. The Lakers tried drafting both Scooby-Doo and a chair, but both picks were rejected by the league. Nah, that's too much. They got too much game. Three years later, that's the golden era. So the Lakers went from Scooby-Doo to Magic Johnson in three years.
Starting point is 02:10:17 Yes. No, two years, actually. Two years. Jesus Christ. Got drafted in 79. We don't know what they was doing back then. That's great. I feel like that is a good place for us to cap off this last episode of Black History Month.
Starting point is 02:10:30 We made some black history today. Shout out to Simba for pulling up. It's a leap year. It is a leap year. Shout out to Simba for pulling up. We appreciate you. Tell the folks where they can find you. You can find me on all platforms
Starting point is 02:10:45 at The Real Assemble, man. But shout out to these brothers. I'm a big fan of the show, man. So it's a pleasure to be here and watch you guys all play. So it's a pleasure to be a part of this, man. Let's make some noise for Black History Month. Hey, man, hold on. Y'all ain't going to make the nigga freestyle or nothing,
Starting point is 02:11:01 man? He ain't come on here and he ain't going to give us a song, you know what I'm saying? This motherfucker's the coldest nigga on the internet. Freestyle or nothing ain't come on ain't gonna give us This motherfuckers the coldest nigga on there in the name When you come to the freestyle, you know, we just talk about the old hoopers be mad how young niggas get paid Yeah, they pay me to freestyle Let's go we see the NBA in the NFL free style unfortunately is with, it's with another company, so we are tamping right now. After this show ends, we're going to really get some negotiations. We got some property for you.
Starting point is 02:11:31 We got some draft picks. We're going to get this thing moving. I got a chair. This is it. Good chair over there. All right, we got an Obama chair if you want. I don't know how to get another one of those. This has been another episode of Gs Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.
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