Gil's Arena - LeBron James' SMOKE For Stephen A DESTROYS Gil's Arena

Episode Date: March 10, 2025

LeBron James' SMOKE For Stephen A DESTROYS Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to a HOSTILE Moment from this weekend where LeBron James confronted Stephen A Smith court side at the Los Angeles Lakers game and told the ESPN Media Mogul to keep Bronny James' name out of his mouth. They debate if LeBron was right to try and protect his son from Stephen A's criticism and discuss if the discourse around Bronny has crossed the line into personal shots at the heir to King James' throne. They also break down the injury LeBron suffered during the Los Angeles Lakers vs Boston Celtics classic on Saturday night and discuss what impact LeBron's missed time will have on Luka Doncic & The Lakers' push for the NBA Playoffs. Next, Shai Gilgeous Alexander vs Nikola Jokic For NBA MVP DIVIDES The Gil's Arena Crew as they react to the red hot MVP race in the NBA where Nikola Jokic cemented his place as the best player in the league with an historic 30/20/20 performance and Shai answered with another 40 piece as the Oklahoma City Thunder stomped the Denver Nuggets. These monumental performances spark a HOSTILE Gil's Arena Debate over who deserves to win the MVP and which superstar is having the most impact on their teams this season. Finally, The Gil's Arena Crew analyzes the Celtics' unstoppable lineup and debates if there's any one in the NBA that can take down Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown and the reigning champs. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Swaggy P, Rashad McCants & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena If you need to hire for your business and want an easier way to find qualified candidates, head to https://ZipRecruiter.com/GIL to try for FREE USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog Stream Josiah's Film "Memes & Nightmares" Available NOW on Hulu and Disney+ 0:00:00 2 Min Countdown 0:02:02 Show Start 0:07:33 Dawg Bowl Recap 0:13:26 LeBron James CONFRONTS Stephen A Smith 0:51:04 Kevin Durant Calls Out Skip Bayless 1:03:45 Jayson Tatum Belongs In The MVP Discussion 1:09:27 Who Can Challenge The Celtics? 1:11:57 LeBron James Injured 1:19:26 Nikola Jokic's 30/20/20 Game 1:41:49 Gil's Arena Debates The MVP Race 1:58:04 Gilbert Arenas Announces His Playback Partnership 2:00:29 Steph Curry's Career Sparks A Debate On Scouting 2:28:26 MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Just make sure you support the show. Here's what's cracking in the arena today. So LeBron has smoke for Stephen A. Smith over comments about Bronny, but did Stephen A. cross the line or did Bron overreact? We will discuss. Jokic made history with the first 30-20-20 game ever in the history of the NBA, but the Nuggets got a 40 piece from SGA in their very next game So who's the real MVP with a little over a month remaining in the season? They have another game tonight We'll see if the Nuggets can recover and Tatum dropped another 40 piece to help the Celtics snap the Lakers a game winning streak Can anyone stop Boston from going back to back? Before we get into all that as always if you want to get your bread right,

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Like I said, we were in San Diego for Dog Bowl 2025. Before we talk about Dog Bowl, we got to send some love to Santos and Mika over at Javier's in La Jolla for accommodating us with the finest table in the restaurant after we made a surprise appearance. No reservations. Took care of it.

Gil worked his magic. Oh, yeah. You know. I told them I was going to give them love on the show. They were very appreciative. Fine Mexican dining at Javier's in La Jolla. We appreciate y'all. But anyway, let's get back to the dog bowl.

So the legend by the name of LOL Hot Dogs, that's his actual underdog username, LOL Hot Dogs, walked away with 300,000 racks. After his drafted teams took home first and second place. I fucked that up didn't I? 300 racks. The 300 racks, he took first and second place in the dog bowl. You see him holding the dog bowl trophy. It was a little chilly out there but that 300,000 was gonna keep him warm.

First and second place. They drafted well, I think like six teams There were other winners out there you took first second 300,000 I knew I saw him at the welcome party on Friday I was like this man came to get some bread about an underdog so shout out to lol hot dog The gills arena crew also participated in our own dog ball with $10,000 on the line And after securing the top pick in the draft under extremely questionable circumstances, Gil's team performed as expected taking home first place with the squad of Luka Dame, RJ Barrett, Miles

Bridges, Onyeka Okonkwo, and Zach Collins. Those last two, those last two. Kenya finished second, Cemetery Larry came in third, Mr. B came in fourth, Swaggy, also known as Championship P, came in fifth place. And after getting the last pick in the draft, my squad also performed as expected. Did not overperform, did not underperform. Finished exactly where it's supposed to be.

Shout out to the underdog Creasy, Byrne, Liam, rest of the crew. Gil out there cheesing. Yeah. Gil, you were alive the whole time too. Yeah, I was live. You're not going to talk about why y'all lost? Why they lost?

I wasn't. Why I didn't win the whole thing. Why didn't you win? Go ahead. Get it to yourself, though. Huh? Get it to yourself, though. Some would say.

I thought I picked the right guy. No, some would say your bad luxury continues. I thought I picked the right guy. You've jinxed the entire Lakers nation. Yeah, I should have known he was gonna quit on me, too. Mmm You already know that we're shopping to pick the project every time I don't know why you keep trying to pick LeBron I know he's gonna prove a point and he keeps and he keeps moving the point He keeps proving a point. We proven the same point Don't rely on me. What did you have, what, seven and a half rebounds once? No, he just needed to finish the game.

I was like, that's it. He done. He's seen your list. Oh, he needs eight. No, thank you. Six more minutes, man. You could have got a lot done in six minutes. A lot.

But, you know, growing. Growing is growing. So I'm going to say you jinxed LeBron and the lot down in six minutes. A lot. But, you know, growing. Growing is growing. Someone said you jinxed LeBron and the Lakers in that game. You knew what you were doing. You had a strategy wearing a Lakers hat today in the arena. Potentially to rub it in. No, not at all. Shaw, you're not a Lakers supporter anymore.

I can't believe you, man. What do you mean? You're the reason we lost. Trying to help it. Trying to help it. We do not want your you, man. What do you mean? You're the reason we lost. Trying to help it. Trying to help it. We do not want your help, sir. Trying to help it not spread. Doing that voodoo, man.

Been eating a man's cookies. Oh, yeah. It was a full jar. It was full voodoo. You reminded me. I didn't even have one, shot. It's the cookies. It's the cookies that get us through.

You said LeBron dropped me the cookies that get us through. If he don't get the cookies, he ain't going to be able to get back 100%. Taking his powers away. No cookies. Is that milk? That's white. But Gil, you won the championship amongst the Gillsmen.

Was there ever a doubt in your mind? Because you were talking cash shit before it even started. Bring it down a little bit so the camera can see it. Your mini dog bowl trophy. Yeah. Don't show it to me. I don't want to look at it. Anything you would like to say?

Winners win. You always get the first pick. That was a little. Somehow, right? They said it was random, but somehow Gil had the first pick. The draft. Every time a draft comes. I got the last pick.

You got the first pick. Last All-Star weekend. You switched it. And came in second. You switched it to last. You didn't want it to be too obvious. He still, yeah, he still. Oh, shit.

Oh, shit. Y'all weren't supposed to do it that obvious. I got the touch. I got the touch. I got the touch. We asked the underdog staff, is it obvious? 97% said yes. And the three people who said no got fired. So here it is, Gil.

Congrats. You won Dog Bowl 2025. We will be rejuvenating for Dog Bowl. But Luka didn't beat you. What? Collins and Oneka beat you, baby. Yeah, it was. It was.

I wasn't thinking about those type of players, man. I wasn't thinking about them. USC came through for you. They did. They had the USC spirit on them. Came through for you. Had a nice little white man out there just getting buckets, rebounding and shit.

Yeah. You got 54 points for you, huh? Yeah. Damn. And that was your last pick? No, Collins was. Oh, okay. If you'd like a chance to be in Dog Bowl next year, go ahead, download the underdog app,

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Rolled out the red carpet for us. A great event. Well, let's get into some basketball discussion. Lakers got their A straight win on Thursday night in a thrilling comeback victory over the Knicks. Luka dropping 32 points, 12 dimes, 7 boards along with 4 steals. And LeBron finishing with 31, 12 boards and 8 dimes.

But let's go back to a moment that went down before the fourth quarter of the game. We have the video courtesy of Legend Z. So longtime Knicks fan Stephen A. Smith was seated courtside near the Lakers bench, fresh off getting his new $100 million deal from ESPN. LeBron excused himself from the Lakers bench, proceeded to confront Stephen A. over recent comments he made about Bronny. The interaction was brief, but it was obvious LeBron wanted smoke with Stephen A.

Stephen A went back to his seat. LeBron went on to help the Lakers to a comeback win. Some of us were in attendance. Beautiful to see. Backs against the wall. Got the dub over the Knicks. So here's a clip from an episode of First Take back on January 29th, which may have been the catalyst for the confrontation.

I am pleading with LeBron James as a father. Stop this. Stop this. We all know that Bronny James is in the NBA because of his dad. The first game of the season, opening night, the Griffies in attendance, father-son duo playing in an NBA game for the first time, an absolutely positively wonderful story. And then reality sets in. We love what we're seeing from him in the G League. Because that's where you belong.

As you hone your skills and you get better and you legitimately earn, which I believe he has the potential to do. I am rooting for Bronny James. It would be cruel to root against him. He's a wonderful kid. I wish him nothing but the best. But he's LeBron James' son.

And everybody knows what attention that brings. Yes. So Stephen A., for full transparency first, Stephen A.'s comments were made before Bronny's play improved during Black History Month, as you may recall. And at that point, the young James' numbers were a bit underwhelming. We'll just keep it real. But Stephen A addressed the confrontation on both first take and his own show, saying he wasn't going to speak on it, but was forced to do so after the clip went viral.

Stop the cab. But here's what Stephen A had to say. That wasn't a basketball player confronting me. That was a parent. That was a father. And I can't sit here and be angry or feel slighted by LeBron James in any way in that regard. By all accounts, he's obviously a wonderful family man and a wonderful father who cares very, very deeply about his son. And based on some of the comments that he had heard, or shall I say, I think he thought he heard, he clearly took exception to some of the things that he heard me say.

And he confronted me about it. For the record, his agent and friend, Rich Paul, has my number. Maverick Carter, who works under him, has my number. LeBron James knows how to get in contact with me if he wanted to. He never called, because had he called and wanted to talk to me, I would have accepted that call. Had he wanted to see me, I would have flown out and I would have seen him and I would have had a conversation man to man.

But that is not what he elected to do. Instead, he elected to confront me while I was sitting courtside. Ari Emanuel, the head of William Morris Endeavor, one of the agencies that represents me, along with Larry David, were sitting courtside. I was with them for the game. Yeah, Larry. And he walked right up to me, and he said what he had to say.

Man. And apparently he feels like I was slighting his son. Feels like a very long-winded way to say that nigga had me scared, but I held my own, though. But nonetheless... Some important people. Gil, we'll start with you. Understand why LeBron had to check Stephen A. Smith

over his comments about him and Bronny? I'm talking to all three of y'all. All three of y'all. Y'all playing with my name. Stop playing with my son's name. I'm in the middle of this right now, and I gotta take my side. LeBron James, if you ever do that shit again

with my potential boss, all hell gonna break loose. Don't you ever in your motherfucking life walk up on a $100 million man during celebration? And that goes for all y'all out there. Have you ever tried to run up on Stephen A? Huh? What we going to do to him? What?

What we going to do to him? No, we got Perk. Perk going to get you from the 409, standing on business, showing up the addresses. And then if you get through him We got them fools over down the new fools. They just got hired. You know, we got a shack. We got a shack We got a shack. It's a lot of we got a Barkley. Uh-huh Kenny yeah, yeah Yeah, bumble deez he gone

Me him and Ernie we gonna be in the back just in case all right. We don't want no smoke But don't y'all ever try that shit again. I got your boss Mm-hmm. You're not what I was expecting from you today, but understandable mm-hmm Steven I got a hundred million trickle-down theory hopefully your trickles on down the gills arena I don't know I wish you would have a little earpiece. I would have told him hey Hit him yeah, what are you gonna? Do here in the middle of the game? He still got the fourth quarter to play. He ain't no puncher.

He hit one of them like he was the bag, brother. What? It's LeBron. What are you going to do? He can't do nothing. I would have stood on business right then. But if you didn't know this, he couldn't do nothing. But the twin followed him over there.

And you know they fucked up in the head. What twin? Them niggas tried to jump me in the game. The Morris Twinn? Yeah. Yeah. He walked up and stood by him like, I dare him to do something. Watch, he followed Brian from when he got up to over there.

I think Brian told him he was going over there. Yeah, I promise. He stood like this, like a bodyguard. Well, listen, even they got $100 million, man. Brian caught over a billion. Yeah. They're both powerful. I know. It was a powerful conversation.

We had the game. What was Bronco going to do? I would have took one of them. I would have took my glove off and... $100 million. $100 million. You got new... You don't slap nobody.

You don't do nothing. You just take your glove off. Just the way Morris' hands was balled up like this. He would have sucked. Man. He would have just gave Morris a hand. He would have just slapped him. You just take your glove out. The way Morris' hands was balled up like this, he would have just gave Morris everything.

So, good, you're trying to get the Stephen A back. Brian executive produced the movie I'm in, but you paid me more than Brian did, so I'm just going to look the other way. Hey, we just looked up. I didn't even see nothing. Somebody else was trying to see Stephen. Just know they can't do nothing because they in the game, right?

Get you a little glove, a little white glove. Get a little white glove. So was this because he was like, so this is about LeBron being a father? Yeah. So LeBron doesn't like what he said about him being a father, right? Because he put his son in the position. It's not because LeBron is playing basketball. It's more about how LeBron is like fathering his son in the position. It's not because Bronny's playing basketball. I was more about what he,

how Bron is like fathering his son. I think the crux of it, basically saying that Bronny should have stayed in school or he came out a little too early or should be focused on the G League. Because LeBron. Yeah, and bringing him up to the varsity squad for Lakers games.

He said he only made it to the NBA because of Bron. Right, so he said something more about... I don't know. How do you feel about the situation, Mr. B? I mean, as a father, you know, you're going to say something. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, it's during the game, fourth quarter.

I don't know if that was the time, but I mean, you know, at the end of the day... Lakers were down at that point. Perhaps Bron needed some motivation. He said it's on site game, fourth quarter. I don't know if that was the time, but, I mean, you know, at the end of the day. Lakers were down at that point. Perhaps Brian needed some motivation. He said it's on site. He was courtside. You're a Lakers fan. It's on site. Giggling and shit with Larry David.

Probably feeling himself at that moment. 100 million Knicks were winning. Knicks fans probably thought they were going to get the dub. Some left early. Didn't even stay for overtime. No names. I mean, it's just crazy. Like, you write your

you get your check for 100 million get pressed the same night damn welcome to l.a i don't know for real like okay we know you got it now let's move over to slip move over to cemetery larry already masked up uh let me tell you understand why lebron had to check Stephen a Smith over his comments about him and Bronny At what age are you still son Hmm forever, right So how many sons get criticized in the sport? A lot, right? Because everybody's got a dad.

Yep. Right? Yep. Every son has gotten criticized. Why is it the first time we've seen this? Because it's the bra. Jump in front of the speeding car. And jump in front of the bullet.

Aries Spirit says some interesting shit. He said when there was a playoff situation and Bron got in a fight and his mom tried to get into it, and he told his mom to sit your ass down. I can fight my own battle. Bronny, we criticizing you. We don't need your daddy to step up for you. How old is Bronny?

20 years old. Okay. Anybody 19 got criticized? Did Aunt Edwards get criticized at 19? I'm pretty sure his dad would have said something. Did T. Morant come in when y'all was getting criticized at 19, 20? I mean, T. Morant still?

Oh, Zoball? Or what about? LeVar, very vocal. Supporting his children. What about Lil Mello? He got a good little criticism, didn't he? Yeah, because it's a lot. We can't talk about Gil, son.

We can't talk about Kenyon, son. We're not going to be able to talk about Gil, son. We can't talk about Kenyon, son. We're not gonna be able to talk about Nick, son. We're not gonna be able to talk about your son. Not gonna be able to talk about Carmelo, son. We're not gonna be able to talk about anybody, son. What we doing? But that's not the first time we're getting pressed now. Kobe impressed him too. Well, it ain't about him no more. It time we're getting pressed now. Kobe impressed him, too. Well, it ain't about him no more. It's about everybody getting pressed now. Is that just a thing now?

Oh, you think that's cool? We doing our job. So, it's sticky. Stephen A also said several other players not talking to him, including Draymond a result. Now he's blackball. Well, you know, huh? Imagine that don't say a certain word or certain phrase that you won't talk to y'all won't come on y'all show And just as a reminder So so you think guys are getting too sensitive? Or is that?

If you were responding to what people were saying, and everybody got something to say, we got social platforms for everybody to talk and get their opinions and comments. So if you're responding to everybody's comments, you're obviously sensitive. Well, not everybody. It's certain people. Whoever you respond to, you must respect.

No. You can only respond to those you respect. I mean, Stephen A. is a big... He's really important to the media. And sometimes it don't matter what people do, you're gonna go all out about your child. Yeah. That's just how it is.

He don't talk about nothing else y'all do, but you talk about his kids, that's a sensitive area. That's something he really loves and will die for. He don't talk about nothing else y'all do. But you talk about his kids, that's a sensitive area. That's something he really loves and will die for. You put your kid in the target zone. George Bush did it. Shit, everybody does it. Why are you singling this stuff out? Guess what happens when you do it.

Why are y'all singling him out? Because guess what happens when you do it. Did you vote for George Bush Jr.? I don't vote. Somebody did. He was president, right? So somebody, why y'all criticizing him for doing what everybody else did?

Because it's criticism. It's a word that exists. I'm just saying. They say it comes with it. There's praise, there's criticism. When you say you want it all, I want it all, you get praise, you get criticism. That's all of it. I want a better life for my kids. If I want his all you get praise you get criticism That's all of I want a better life for my kids if I'm waiting you're gonna have to accept okay

It don't have criticism If you not gonna criticism you don't criticize who is why are we taking my time? Yes, sir. You had a he was in the NBA and they were criticizing your son you would do it with it Who's the 15th pick? What you mean? It's your job. You got to deal with your job and what was the 15th pick? Let me Google What of this dress? All right, then fuck why are we criticizing LeBron what you mean you want to know the 15th? Yeah, are you about to find out I'm asking you, I'm asking you. No, but. Khalil Ware. You my dog. I'm asking you. No, but if somebody's like, if your son is in the NBA and they're talking about you as

a father, like you're not going to say nothing back to them? Yeah. Nigga, what can you say? Yo, you can calm. Yo, you can relax. All right, let's put it like this. Yo, like you can relax. You're a father.

You're a father. You're a father. You're at a high school game. You're a father. You're at a high school game. You hear, man, he trash, man. Get him out the game. And you're like, hold on now, that's my son.

Right. What else are you going to do beyond that? That's all he did. That's all you can do is, hey, man, that's my son. What if Dick Vitale's the one doing it? Exactly. Dick Vitale is on the, and I've been criticized by all the announcers. Do you know my dad never went to the announcers and be like,

hey, man, don't be saying that about my son on national TV. You're fucking up his reputation. Don't do that. Dick Mattel, Doris Burke. So because... Rafferty. Right. Bayless.

Right, so because your dad didn't check them, you think... So where he going to check them at? My dad from the country. He got to go find ESPN and go, let me check y'all. I don't like that. Come on, man. Stop it. Y'all are playing into it.

Don't play into it. You know criticism. Did you ever get criticized as being swaggy P? Did your dad pop up and be like, don't do that? To who? Who did he say it to? Who did he say it to? Did he say it to anybody else?

Because Stephen A wasn't the only one saying something. They just didn't know it. So your dad had to. But we're not going to check everybody. Somebody, like you're going to check that one person. That's good parenting. Like a parent, you're going to check that one. Not everybody, but that one person.

You got to check everybody to check that one person. Don't have the energy for the one person you know you can check. And then you don't have that energy for that nigga you know you better not even go walk around. Ooh, anybody that you gonna hesitate checking. Like, oh, he said it too. Well, y'all let him say it. The boss go to the boss. You go to the head one. You don't go to the people in the house. That ain't the head one. He work for the head one. Tell him to go talk to the dude that let him say it.

He's just got $100 million. He let him say it. That's the head one. He let him say it. Yo, you've been a little quiet. Obviously, you announced your support for Stephen early on. What do you have to say to what Cemetery Larry's saying? Why does it matter?

He named a whole bunch of number ones and number two picks. They should be criticized Is the number one and two pick being criticized this year is The one through 54 being criticized. How about 56 seven and eight being criticized? Mm-hmm That is the problem that You're going out of you have to go out of your way to criticize a 55th pick there's what about the number one just the lottery itself no one said nothing no one's criticized the lottery pick we don't know how they're doing who's in the room right but we know everything about Brian and James and you are you will you will go out your way to bash someone

Who don't even belong in the league the let's be honest from? Pick 40 to the last pick those guys really don't make it to the NBA They don't right so that that group of people really don't belong in the NBA. They really have to go fight for themselves. If they get into an NBA game, whatever his stats is, they all look like that. So you're going out of your way to criticize them. Oh, nepotism. If the Lakers didn't pick that, they should have picked somebody else.

Okay, who? How about the three people that's behind him? I guarantee you they're not playing very well in the NBA. I know they're not playing very well in the G League. He's averaging more than them. Of course he is. He's averaging more points than the people in the first round. But obviously you're not going to talk about that.

Do you think they over-criticize him? Or, I mean, well, he's getting a lot of criticism because Bron said that his son was better than half the league. No, the problem is, yeah, what you're saying is correct. Right. Because you can't attack LeBron James, you decide to go for the low-hanging fruit. How?

Because he set him up for that. You put a target on your kid back saying, listen, man, when my kid get here, you're going to see that he better than half of these guys that's playing around right here, right now. What was he supposed to say about his kid? He said better than... Tell the truth, bro.

What you mean? So I was like, man, my kid... He said he can shit his ass. Is your kid ass? No, but I... So then don't say it. Say what your kid is. I'm going to talk gas him up.

But you know your kid ain't better than half of the guys. I don't know that. You do now? So now you don't want to hear about it? No, if I'm LeVar, I'd sing half the league. But you know now that you saying that set him up for us to say, hey, man, we don't see it. Low-hanging fruit. How?

It's called low-hanging fruit. You planted the tree. Then LeVar will do it. It's low-hanging fruit. I mean, once you, like, we're acting like he got picked 17. He was the 55th pick. You're playing victim for starting your own narrative in the forward you started your own narrative The barbell did it right save better than Kobe Jordan. Oh, that's 50 is the 55th once he got picked out on the number two pitch. Don't like did you shoot?

Hmm. Yeah, apparently you got a shoe who I'm Ella. Yeah. No little Bronny do. He got a shoe? Who? Melo? Yeah. No. Lil' Bronny. Do Bronny got a shoe? I don't think so. He has a P.E. Do he have a shoe? He has a P.E. He has a shoe. A P.E. Like a signature shoe.

Second round pick has a shoe and a guaranteed contract. And what do you think second rounders get? I ain't seen a shoe. There ain't no first or second pick that got a shoe or none of that. They ain't been promoted as the first, second-round pick. They ain't doing none of that. When we got a signature line coming? We don't talk about them when they do anything good on the top five pick,

top ten pick. We don't talk about them. But you act like he can't get his foot off of it. Like being on playing video games like all the other... Just business-wise. Don't we have a signature, though? We are putting pressure on Bronny, like talking about Bronny.

Kenyon hates him when we do it because he's like, just allow the kid to play. Allow the kid to be himself. That's what everybody does before. We're putting more pressure on him than his dad already put on him. And now... Why his dad can't say stuff?

Why his dad can't talk stuff? Like, why his dad can't talk about his son? Because he put him... Why he can't bring up his... He took him to the trenches and let him out the car and told him, go good luck.

Nah. I hear what you're saying. Like, just being able to uplift your son. Yeah, uplift your son. That's what he... Well, I can't talk good about my son

without y'all attacking him after. Like, why is that? who's talking good i'm his dad yeah right so my son right as his dad what he's saying is yeah i'm i'm i'm yeah son you the one yes yeah like as a as a black as a black kid and this son believe he's better than half the he plays with you he gets to train with you every single day. He should be showing us that he is your son. That's why he's getting criticized because he got everything he needed to be little LeBron,

and we don't see the results of that. And so we can't criticize that? The results. So a McDonald's All-American, SC, get drafted, that's not showing? Like, averaging, what, 22 in the G League right now. Obviously, the NBA numbers is not where it's supposed to be.

Gil, as you pointed out. Oh, man. Y'all make this conversation so hard not keeping it real. No. No, I am. No, I'm keeping it real. I get why they're criticizing him

because of what he said. In comparison to all of the other players, he has an expectation. But as your child, you're going to the new life. That's what I'm saying, the expectation. So he's not exceeding the expectations of a 55th pick compared to everyone in the draft. No, he's not even exceeding the expectation of being picked. But why can't you give my son confidence, though?

He's playing better than everyone in the second round. He is now, but the expectation of him being picked 55 was not there. But what was the expectation of being the 55th pick in the draft if his name wasn't LeBron James Jr.? He wouldn't have got drafted. Why?

Because there was a lot of people in front of him. But what are those people doing now in comparison to what he's doing? I'm just saying, what the comparisons and the criticisms are coming from is the expectation

that was set for him. Period. There is no other... We're disappointed by the expectation that was set. What is the expectation set for him? You're better than half of the guys in the league. But he got picked 55, so he was only better than three. There you go.

So your first mistake was your dad set you up to only be better than three. I don't care. You got to speak life into your kids. Instead of care. You got to speak life into your kids. Instead of half. You got to speak life into your kids, bro. No, of course you do. That's what I'm saying.

We're not saying that. I'm going to tell my son he's better than everybody in this damn league right now. But you moved the goalpost. You're talking about breathing life into your son, and we're talking about Stephen A. Ben doing what he's doing. But you're talking about it started off of him saying he's better than half the league. So if I go there, if Gil go there and say, I think you're better than everybody in this league right now,

go short, that's a problem? But he said it to the world, 35 million people seen that shit. So again, it's low-hanging fruit. You seen him get picked 55th. You seen he only averaged six. So it's called lazy journalism. Because he's

playing the way he's playing, like a 55th pick, it's easy for you to target him. Why not target the number one pick like you do every year for the last fucking 50 years? The number two pick every year. It's like the lottery picks got a fucking grade. I know they're like, I'm glad Bronny James is here. You guys don't have to worry about me being a bust right now.

You don't even have to think about us being a bust. How can we criticize the number one and number two pick, right, when we don't ever talk about them? We don't highlight their teams. We don't see what their progression is. We don't at all, in no capacity. So how can we say that? Like, oh, we don't know what they're doing.

You're the media. But Bron, he plays for the Los Angeles Lakers. He's going to be highlighted. So, Sha, the tweet you're referencing from LeBron, he tweeted back on March 6, 2023. He said, man, Bronny definitely better than some of these cats I've been watching on League Pass today. Shit, lightweight, hilarious, laugh emoji, laugh emoji,

laugh emoji, laugh emoji. Something. Something. Okay, look, second round, because if people get these false narratives, because before this year, no one knew nothing about second round players' contracts. Nobody.

Right? So when he signed it, they just assumed this was some luxurious shit. Right? The first pick in the second round guaranteed three years, six million. The 32nd pick in the second round, guaranteed $12 million. That's weird.

The 33rd pick, guaranteed $7.8 million. Then $9 million guaranteed. Then the next one, $8.5 million guaranteed. Then $7.9, $7.8. 40th, he got $7.8, $7.8, and then 42, 43, 44, probably didn't come over, 44 got 5 million. 45th got 6.1, then Los Angeles, 7.8. The standard is what Bronwyn got. That is the standard.

Are those two-way contracts? 49, no, no, those are guaranteed. Nope, those two-way contracts? That's second-round contracts. 49. No, no, those are guaranteed. Nope. No two-ways. None of them are two-ways. Mm-mm. Mm. That's a lot of money.

Yeah. I didn't know second-round got that much. Yeah, they did. Yeah, I know, a lot of money. But you got to be on the roster at a certain point. It's all... Oh, okay, got it. Like...

Yeah. But Bronny, I believe, did get three years guaranteed with a team option for the fourth. Two years guaranteed. Third is a partial. If he makes it, if he's on the roster. Yeah, third is a partial. Fourth is team option. That is the standard second round contract.

And I guess now you get to negotiate your own deals. That's why the 35th pick got $6.1 million, but the second pick behind him got $12 million guaranteed. And then the 33rd pick got $7.8 million. So that means they already actually did their deals. They already signed. Motherfucker got $12 million. Dad or no dad, dad or no dad, you're going to get criticized, bro.

So get over it. The question is when does that criticism cross the line? There ain't no such thing as cross the line. It's the sport. I don't know. And that's my – It's the sport. We talking who?

And I'm kind of in the middle. I'm in the middle because it's like – You've been talking who? Because it's like now that we're reporters, right, and like he just said. All right, so now that – now players who played in the NBA, your kid is off limits of getting credit. No, it's not about all of them. No, no, no, because if I'm a reporter, right,

if I'm a young reporter and I see that, and I see Stephen A. Smith, LeBron James going at it over LeBron James' son about basketball, now as a reporter, I'm like, well, damn. Like, okay, well, can't say nothing about that player kid, that player kid, that player kid, because I might get ran up on. And as a journalist, you're not about, like...

If they're the one or two... You know what it is. I'm just like, so what does that do to you? He won for 16. We hear when you talk bad about him. When you talk... When he does good, you don't say nothing. He hasn't done anything good

in the NBA yet. You're targeting him directly. He's not reporting to G League. He's not reporting to G League. He's reporting to NBA performances. He hasn't had a worthy NBA performance to talk about. Has he said anything good about money? When he did

bad in the G League. He was positive in those first two comments. When he played bad in the G League the first time I'm gonna play bad in the G League the first game. Yeah, everybody ran with it What game that first the first one? Okay, but that's the problem Remember that if you're gonna be a journalist be a journalist. Yeah. Yeah, but right. Okay. Okay, right and we as journalists When have we ever attacked a rookie player? We still haven't even an attack last year's player for flopping, if any of them flopped. Wait, a rookie player? Last year's try.

What's the top ten? Do we know any of them? Size, win-win. No, but let's like. Of course. Yeah, but let's go into the years. We're talking about $40, $50 million people. And we don't have nothing to say bad about them.

Because as hoopers, you give them you give them the opportunity you know damn well those first couple games brony gets in one minute three minutes he ain't playing well for sure for sure number one picks don't even play well with that kind of time nobody nobody does the targeted you go out your way you're comparing that to, you're comparing a regular person in this situation of being a 55th pick to a guy who's the son of a billionaire who has his own platform where he has millions of kids following him. There's not a comparison for that. You get the same. You can't say, oh, we're going to compare this to another 55th second round pick. It's not even close.

But you're getting the same minutes. It don't matter. My expectation is way higher because of who I am. Period. My expectation is higher. Period. I got picked 55th. Don't matter.

Where's the expectation? We know you keep saying that because the 55th slot was the Lakers. Do you know if the Lakers had another slot that wasn't 55? They had 17. They would have tried to get that slot. They had 17. They drafted Dalton Konek. Dalton fell to that slot.

They fell to that slot. He was the best available. But imagine if we don't got a 55th pick, and this is the only pick we got at 17, and it's the only chance we can get Bronny, we're going to try everything in our power to get this 17th pick. That is not reality, though. Reality is like, why are you pretending to sound like one of them?

Let's say Bronny don't get picked. Are you going to tell us that LeBron James and the Lakers wouldn't have signed him as a free agent and whoever they picked with the 55th pick wouldn't have got cut? Are we going to pretend that wasn't going to be the case? No matter where he went, he was going to be on the Lakers. You know why? Because he's the money bag himself. Because he the what? The money bag.

So it ain't got nothing to do with basketball. And now you don't want to get criticized. Now, he just told us he's the money bag. People who want to watch basketball didn't sign up to see a money bag. We want to see who. So what he just exposed as him being the money bag, that is what's wrong with the encounter. When you see, everyone sees and no one's saying anything. This is the money bag. We can see. This is the thing that brings the attraction.

But don't act like it's not. We don't see. We got eyes. We can see what's going on. So why can't we criticize him? So the 54th pick, for him? Oh matter do you don't play for the Lakers? He don't play for the Lakers. Where's the 54th? Nobody knows whoever plays for the Lakers you go He can't tell you who to set you gonna pick it That did the old do all you guys about bro from the old dude from the G League that popped up, number 20,

that was shooting them threes, they gave that chance to. If he would have went on any other team in the world, we'd have never heard another word about dude. Andre Ingram you're talking about. Andre Ingram. Play for the Lakers, bro. You play for the Lakers. It's the Lake Show.

That's the advantage. And the expectation. Bro, come on. there's like Jeremy Lin in New York bro that's the money bad I must say that's the money back for sure you're going to get criticized though Jeremy Lin in New York he was actually he was actually a fan favorite nobody about the train going to though but you didn't go in but they didn't. I know.

He rose to the occasion. I mean, he had a couple of games. So he could not be, he could not be criticized. I mean, he had a couple of games. He balled out. Bronies, Bronies, Bronies per 36 with the time he's getting, 12 points, four assists, four rebounds. And that's in the NBA? That's in the NBA.

Sean, would you say he's under-delivered with his G League stint? If he had 36 minutes per 36, if he was in the NBA, if they played him 36 minutes, he would be averaging 12, four, and four. He'd be top five for rookie of the year. What would Dalton Kanae's numbers be? The 23, four-year-old?

Let me see. I don't know. They all got drafted to a... The rookie, the rookie. They got drafted to teams that's trying to win a championship. They're not going to play like that. Huh? Not going to play.

Did you just move the goal post? No! Six is true! If Dawg Connect played, he would be averaging 16, 5, and 4. He'd be like first round picks. That's the 17th pick versus 54. Wait, hold on. So he's averaging 16, 5, and 4.

He's averaging 16, 5, and 4. He's averaging 16, 5, and 4. He's averaging 16, 5, and 4. He's averaging 16, 5, and 4. He's averaging 16, 5, and 4. He's averaging 16, 5, and 4. He's averaging 16, 5, and 4. He be averaging 16, 5, and 4. He's like first-round picks. That's the 17th pick versus 54. Wait, hold on. So he's averaging 16. If Dalton Connect played 36 minutes, he would average 16, 5, and 4.

What does Dalton Connect average right now? Bronny would average 12, 4, and 5. I think 9. At the age of 20. That means what? That's fucking good. No, you know pretty 36, so what does that sound like? As a rookie.

He should be playing for the Lakers. Connect averaging 9.3 rebounds in 59 games this season, playing 20 minutes per game. It's got to be minutes for people, though. Right? No, he should be playing, right? Based on the stats. Who?

No. Ronnie should be playing for the Lakers. No. Based on Purdy 36 and the stats. There's no minutes for him. Give him a plan, man. Why you don't got no minutes? Over Luka?

What were we playing? Over Limited? Dave Vincent? Shamar got no minutes? Over Luka? What were we playing? Over Limited? Dave Vincent? Shamar Moore? No. The Lakers? And the Lakers?

Rookie, dog. And the Lakers? I'm gonna draft it to a playoff championship. Dog, Kobe Bryant came off the bench, man. He was the future. Come on, we know what this looks like. I've been there. I know it.

You got a five, got a five minutes to you. Come on, let's not do this. Dave Vincent averages six points. It's sporadic. No, I'm just saying, if Kobe came off the bench and he was the future, they knew who he was. They convinced Shaq he's coming. And he came off the bench. He wasn't the second round.

He wasn't the second round. Of course not. Where you talking? But nobody expected him. He was the number one player at our high school. It was the second round. Exactly. It was the second round that year he got drafted, though.

Nobody bashed him. Who was that guy? Yes, they did bash him. Who got drafted second round for the Lakers that year? Kobe made it. It was first round. Nobody made this conversation. They don't talk to Zach.

Difficult, man. No, it's not difficult. I mean, the Lakers in championship. Yeah, it's hard. Tension right now. Yeah. So, Lakers took Derek Fisher with the 24th pick in that draft. All right.

So, we can do this. We know who Kobe Bryant is, right? What are we doing right now? First game, 0 for 1. Oh, we're doing this. Second game, 0 for 1. Why are you using Kobe, though? Because he's a great.

Because you bashing my guy. No, he's a great. You're pulling up all my Kobe stats. Talk about 0 for 1, 0 for 2. Like, why do you? Use Anthony Hardaway, bro. Use your favorite player. Okay, then Kobe.

Use Anthony. Let's get rid of this stuff. Dang, that's weird. No, it's... Okay, we know who Kobe... We know what Kobe was. Ranked number one, right? Ranked number one.

They got Shaq using his name. They traded for... He was the future. As a rookie, you're this great. You only have a seven point. First game, 0 for 1, six minutes. 0 for 1 again. 2 for 3. He played 17 minutes. 3 for

8. Then 0 for 3. 1 for 2. 1 for 4. That's what a rookie looks like. So if this is what the great look like as a rookie, why would you bash and put so much effort in bashing what the 55th pick looks like with these same numbers? Give the people a chance to adapt. These are 18, 19, 20-year-olds coming into legends, man.

Legends. He ain't playing against another nigga in high school. He's going up against Maxie. What the fuck is that supposed to look like? Go to college. I got to go up against. Go to college and figure it out, man. Go to college and play against guys.

Then you get here, you're like, yeah, let's do it. It's Maxie. Yeah, man, I play for everybody, though. Yeah, yeah, let's do it, it's Maxi. Yeah, man, I play for somebody. I play for everybody, though. Yeah, man, just make the decisions, man, and stop complaining. And plan for a victory, man. I don't want to hear all this shit, man. This shit is weak.

This shit is weak, man. Hey, what's that you're talking about? I think he's doing his thing in the G League, though. What are we talking about? Yeah, what are we talking about? Do you think he'll be playing better at SC than he's playing now? He's going to be fine. He's good.

Just give him time. Like you said, give him time. I mean, he's averaging, what, 20-something in the G League? 22 in the G League. Give him time. I mean, fuck. I don't think he's averaging 22. I don't even think he's averaging.

He's not averaging 22 at SC. No second-round average in the G League. None of them. Too many zones, traps. So we asked to chat, and 1.20, we move on. I was just looking at, you know, because he was a three-time. Is that still good this year?

Two-time national player of the year. Two-time national player of the year, and just like a rookie, he's getting his head bashed in when he plays against these greats. These are people who grew up with. It takes time. Who coach everybody. It takes time.

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So Stephen A's former running mate Skip Bayless also got some smoke recently from Kevin Durant when Skip put too much dip on his chip. So we got the tweet for you. So after Skip dropped a video from his show on Saturday talking about KD saying, in part, the more I watch him at age 36 The more he looks mentally semi-retired to me Katie responded with this tweet on Sunday with the caption. Fuck it. We're both washed

It was a great run. Yeah, yeah. Generational, if you will. I'm all show for you. It's over. So Championship P, you respect KD for using his platform to call out Skip Bayless like that? Yeah, man. Or is he being sensitive? Nah, he's not being sensitive, you know.

He's KD, you know. He at the point where it's like, what I gotta do? What I gotta do? You know, they close the door on them. What I got to do? Skip calling. How you going to tell somebody else how they feel? Like, how you going to choose I feel like semi-retirement for me?

Like, shit people be saying be crazy sometimes. Yeah. I think it's part of the larger conversation, too. Obviously, players have their own platforms. They're able to leverage those platforms to go at journalists. Mr. B, you pointed out, you know, how this is going to impact other reporters that are coming up. But even in Stephen A's case, I don't see a lot of other reporters going to be making $100 million sitting courtside at the Lakers game with the legend that is Larry David. They'll be in the media section

or they'll, you know, they'll be away kind of from all that. I think he's surpassed that. Same with Skip. Used to be journalists. Now they are media personalities. Figures that people lean on. Yeah, it was fun. For their opinions. It was fun to be a journalist.

Like, we looked forward to having journalists talk their shit and, you know. Now it's like, you got to be careful. Washed? Yeah, washed. We both washed, fuck it. Look, I can't win. I don't give a fuck, my mother. We both washed, man. I done had enough.

I'm done with y'all. Y'all keep critiquing me. Man, just told y'all the other day. Y'all better stop playing with me, man. It's been'all the other day. Y'all better stop playing me, man. It's been a tough year for us. Is he saying that because where Phoenix is? I think that's in part, like I said, tough year for the Suns. Currently 11th spot in the West.

There's a reason why you're saying something. But KD's played solid this season. Yeah. 27.6 rebounds, four assists, 53-40, 83 shooting splits. Or is it because where Phoenix is? Yeah. I think it's because where Phoenix's position is. Trade rumors. You notice he didn't at KD.

No. KD active on social media. You don't have to at him. He will find you. He will find you. He likes having conversations on there. He likes to, yeah, spark discussion, debate. He's like, he's looking for confrontation, man. That's a random tweet.

That's a random tweet of somebody's opinion. Random. But KD responds to random. Is there any truth to it? There's a lot. He don't respond to half of mine shit. Kevin Durant does not respond to yours? Shai, you just learned to get active on Twitter. I've really been tracking your growth. 300 pounds. Balls. No, it ain't got nothing to do with it. I'm half of mine shit Kevin does not respond to your show. You just starting to get active on Twitter. I really

Ain't gonna do I'm just saying Katie talk to everybody I'm just saying like That could have been anybody saying that random as fuck, but if anybody I mean Katie has shown in the past It doesn't matter who you are whether you're skip Bayless or just a regular ring Yeah, Twitter user. Yeah, I will engage which I will shown in the past it doesn't matter who you are, whether you're Skip Bayless or just a regular rank and file Twitter user, I will engage with you, and I will come find you. You didn't tag me in this tweet, but I found it.

And on my Instagram. But his response don't change that person's perception. Like, they don't change how that person see it. But that's funny. Skip used to be his, like, biggest supporter, I think. I mean, he wasn't a fan. He just said, I think. I mean, he didn't say he wasn't a fan. He just said, you know. So we know the Suns haven't played well this season.

KD have another solid season, but how's KD look to you guys? Only way to shut a critic up is to play better than they expect. So when? I think that's what it is. He's having a 27, but see the Suns. Yeah, I think because the team.

Yeah. I don't think more of his play. I think it's just more of the team and what it looked like. Yeah. The trade rumors, all the little noise that they're trying to make over there. But the question for all you, like when you see somebody like a skip who's obviously never hooped at a high level in his life, critiquing and engaging your effort on the court and your love for the game, are you going to take offense to that?

I mean, I don't... Of course you're going to try to take offense of it. I'm just saying. Until there's levels to it on all aspects where you're the guy who never played, you can't say shit. And you're the guy who didn't play enough, you can't say shit. You're the guy that didn't win enough. You can't say shit It's only these guys that can talk because they the ones that did enough said enough

It's called gatekeeper. No Well, I also think it's your years Media like like skip like but skip Baylor's been in the game for so long Even they Smith they've been in the game for so long like like this is their on they all in one little pool of Journalists that can talk their shit because they've been doing it. Right? Right?

They've been doing it. No, no. I mean, it's a sign of respect, too, though. Like, your years. For the top journalists, right? You do get respect. You hear?

The years you do. So if you only play four years, it's like there's only so much you should be able to say. Nah. No. No. Yeah, because I play, right?

You won a 5,000. The game is the game. So if you a journalist and you've been writing, you Will Bond, you Whitlock, you all that you've been in the game, it's like now we can't say shit? But even for those guys that have been in games, been in practice, been on the road, have never played the game, right? They have a ton of experience being around it. Yeah, you can't justify is he working hard or not? You know, how can you tell that? Just because I'm not winning, I'm not working hard. You don't see what I do behind closed doors. You know,

like, how can you tell somebody he's seen semi-retired by looking at him? You could say the energy that I see out of this guy doesn't look like I want to play for three, four, five more years. But that's an observation for somebody. That's what I'm saying. Somebody's looking and saying, this is what I see. You could say,

nah, that ain't real. As a hooper, nah, he's just trying to figure it out. But that's not being articulated from the fan's perspective to the media perspective. That's what I'm trying to say.

I can't tell how somebody feel because they're not going, they're not doing what you think they should be doing. They should be diving on the floor and showing like, but that's not his demeanor. But that's just like Joel Embiid. You can say, oh, he look lazy, he this, he that.

But what if that's just how he play? We won't accept that because we're like, nah, we know what lazy is. But he's not playing. But we're just saying when he play. We could be like, yeah, he play lazy. We want him to play a little bit. You know what I'm saying, but he never does. And then he's like, isn't that just him?

Is that just how he play? I don't really see who talk about him be, I only talk about him not being playing, I'm just telling you, much. And it's all right sometimes, but that's him there. But I know from personally watching KD, that's his demeanor, winning the championship, winning and not losing.

I seen KD work. So for me, I feel like, I don't know, I take it a little more personal than others, just because I don't believe somebody is semi-retired me by just looking at them If you ain't in the field with them, I don't think you should Criticize somebody effort. I Mean she probably tried to talk about Brian. He got a good night trying to find somebody else Am I retired at 27 a game?

Yeah, I guess no one sees it. No one sees, like, if what LeBron's doing at his age doesn't matter, if what KD's doing at his age doesn't matter, right? And these are the elite who take care of their body, who really love this game. What happens to everybody else? What happens to everybody else? What happens to everybody else? Knowing damn well, shit, to be great for five years is cool. To be great for 15 to 20, and you're telling me,

y'all calling these motherfuckers, watch, they're averaging more than me. They're averaging more than me in their watch? What the fuck are you saying about me? It's offensive. Because you know what? Because it's some... You gotta win.

Nah, it ain't even... It's not even just winning. You gotta win. It's just that these... You use team stats, how about stop me? You said I'm washed. These older reporters ain't never seen nothing like it. It's a game.

It's a game. I'm washed. What am I here giving you motherfucking buckets? This ain't one on one. This is a team game. I know for sure. The game is created to win. For sure. That's why I love that comment. Fuck we both watch yeah, we both watch at least I got yeah, at least I'm still doing

I'm still employed by my Hey, but you I mean come on man, you know skip was a Jordan guy They don't you know these guys that look what LeBron and Katie and all these guys are playing It's different. It's different. Something they ain't never seen before. They don't know how to handle it. You got to win, man. I don't know why y'all been rushing around that shit. Yeah, that individual shit is cool. It's cool. It's cool for after, you know, you can harp on it if you need it. If that needs it, something to hang on to other than a championship and winning and holding the title, you go chase that other thing you need.

But a lot of guys who really care about who and winning and the origin of the game, that's all that matters. So you're telling me I'm retired because my team is not winning? You are part of the team. I know. And you're the leader. And you're the leader. And you You are part of the team. I know. And you're the leader. And you're the leader. And you're the leader of the team.

You're giving them that title. Yeah, I think Booker's the leader. Yeah, so basically the guy who's winning. You can't just give titles to people so you can criticize them. I'm coming here. Who's the best player on the team? But y'all said Steph was the leader. Who's the best player on the team?

Kevin Durant. All right, so the best player on the team, not the leader. That's still your opinion. Not the leader, the best player. Who was the leader in Golden State? We're talking about Phoenix. I'm saying who was the leader? You're moving the goalposts.

No, I'm not. That's what you just did. You just moved the goalposts in real time. You just did that shit in real time. That's actually not called goalposts moving. I'm talking about Phoenix. You're talking about the Warriors. I'm saying there's a leader there, right?

Then you move the goalposts to say who's the best player. That's a goalpost move. And you said Kevin Durant. We said Kevin Durant. So I said in Phoenix, Kevin Durant was the best player. But are you going to say he was the leader of the team? No, we said the best player. Best player in Phoenix right now is Kevin Durant no we said the best player best player in phoenix right now

is kevin derain who is the best player in golden state that's this that's not a goalpost move goalpost is you said who's the leader we said booker then you said who's the best player now that's a now that's a goalpost move So why are we talking about the Warriors? Because you moved the goalpost. We're still talking about Phoenix. Then keep the goalpost where it was. The leader is Booker. He's been there the longest.

We know who the leader is. We know who the best player is. You can't just say the best player becomes the leader now because you want to make a point. So we'll just say that they're losing. Okay. So they're all retired. So they all retired. It ain't acceptable. So all retired. They losing.

It ain't acceptable. How many people in the 90s, how many people in the 90s at 36 was averaging these types of numbers? Who cares? Just call them along, I think. I mean, I just want to know, what was Skip Bayless and them writing about all the other players? Because there was only one dude winning.

Yeah, but what about everybody else? Nobody mattered because there was one guy winning all the championships. Okay, so then they all should have been retired, semi-retired. They didn't. But they should have. They didn't. If KD's averaging 27 at 36 and you're telling him to retire, what the fuck was these dudes in the 90s?

Why are we talking about them? But they only talked about the team that's winning. So why are we talking about KD? Why is he saying something? I just want to know what people in the 90s was averaging at 36. I just want to know what the top players at 36 was averaging. Compelling host. At 36.

Because Bron doing something. I just want to know what everybody's numbers was at that age. Yeah, everybody want to talk individual shit when you don't want to talk about no motherfucking championships. It's the reason why we play the game. So would you like to talk about a champion now? Because we can talk about the reigning NBA champion, Boston Celtics. Lakers were back in action on Saturday

taking their eight-game winning streak into the heart of Caucasia, also known as the TD Garden, for a showdown with the Celtics in their final meeting of the regular season. As you may recall, the Lakers had a 21-point home win in their first meeting back in January. Despite being without Rui Hachimor and Bronny and losing Bron late in the game, the Lakers put up a fight, but it was not enough. Let's take a look at some

highlights. Jason Tatum came through with another dominant performance, putting up 40 points, 12 rebounds, 8 assists, and 2 steals. It was Tatum's third 40-point game in the last month, third time he's dropped 40 on the Lakers in his career. Jalen Brown added 31, 6 boards, and 3 steals, and Al Horford had 14 and nine. On the Lakers side of things, Luka led the Lakers with 34 points and eight rebounds in his first game back in Boston. Since watching the Celtics win game five of the 2020

four finals to lock up the chip. And LeBron put up 22 points, 14 rebounds, nine downs, but was 0 for six from deep. Let's watch some Tatum highlights. Very spirited effort. We were watching at the Pacific Beach Shore Club in beautiful San Diego. Tons of snacks.

Lobster tails. They had the seafood tower. On point. Shout out to Underdog. Did not skimp. Stitching. Oysters. Mmm.

You see it. Oh. Oh out to underdog. Did not skimp. Stitching. Oysters. Mm. Mm-mm. You see it. Oh. Oh. Mm. Oh. Jason Tatum looking like the number one option in Boston. Mm. Going at black and miles like that. Mm. Joe's going to want to talk about it. James goes right at Brown. Head fake. Another head fake.

Oh. Spin. Left hand. But we see LeBron. Raymond James. White with the save. Finds Holiday. Holiday back up top. Tatum a three-pointer.

Bam! Lakers cut it to single digits, but the Celtics cruiser intervened. It was a scary moment for the Lakers. LeBron left the game midway through the fourth quarter after suffering a groin strain. We will have more on that shortly. Celtics have won four straight games, but are still eight games behind the Cavs for the top spot in the East.

What did Jason Tatum and the Celtics squad show you against the Lakers in their showdown? Saturday night, the TD Garden. Just how to be champions, man. We do have championship pee on the couch. Man. Like, I... Man. We do have championship pee on the couch. Man. Like, right now, I really hate, like, the way

they do the MVP stuff now. Because I feel like, honestly, Jason Tatum should be in this conversation. And because he's more of a team guy, and they do more stats now than, now than just a triple-double. He would never, I think, be able to hold that trophy unless he do something. One day just do something like Kobe did and just get rid of everybody and start over or something. But the guy's balling, man.

It's going to be, yeah. He got everything you need, man. It's going to be hard to stop him at 6'8", 6'9", doing the things he does. Could shoot, score easily. Thank you for the things you've been saying, BJ. Because I've been seeing my guy dunk more again in people's faces and stuff. So, yeah, it's just good things to see.

40 ball on the Lakers, prime time, that's MVP stuff. That's face of the league stuff when we talk about face of the league. Mr. B., do you want to take some credit or responsibility from elevating Tatum's game to the level he's currently playing at? No, not just Tatum, Boston in general. I mean, they're, what, seven, eight deep. So, you know, any night, you know, if Tatum's playing, Jalen Brown's not playing, you know, they just had the other night,

two guys go for 40. So, just overall as a playing, Jalen Brown's not playing, you know, they just had the other night two guys go for 40. So just overall as a team, like, I mean, it's going to be very hard to beat Boston because when they lock in and you got Jalen Brown out there guarding, you know, the other team's best player and then he's still going out there getting 30 and, you know, shooting 50% from the field and, you know, plus 11 and things like that too. It's like, you know, if he getting, you like, if that was like game one of the finals, I mean, yeah.

But no, I mean, as a team though, they're really good though. They're very good. Shia, I see you're doing your Darvin ham. You have the clipboard out. Drawing up a good play. Very good penmanship. Drawing up that corner play. Very good penmanship. I mean, drawing up that corner plate. Very good penmanship, my man.

Good corner right there. Just saying, right? He was defensive. He was good. I thought that second O was a C at first, but let him cook. Mm-hmm. That's actually what it said. Spot up.

Let him cook. How you thought that's what that said? You wanted it. It's a light glare. You wanted to say that. It's a light glare in here, Sean. Very illuminated here. Gills Arena presented by Underdog.

It's a little different, Joe. Let's put this away. To see the completed, completed, what did this sell this while you were live streaming? Mm-hmm. At the Pacific Beach Shore Club in lovely San Diego. At the Underdog Dog Bowl, Woof Woof 2025. Did not see you eat any lobster tails.

You were locked in. Yeah, I mean, they're champs, right? So, you know, everybody's targeting them, and, you know, they got to defend, you know, what they won last year. So it was a great output for them. You know, and, you know, the rest of the season is still among us. Everybody got to position themselves and, you know, the rest of the season is still among us.

Everybody got to position themselves and, you know, see what happens in the playoffs. Like we mentioned, Celtics looking to go back-to-back the season after winning the chip last year. What team in the East and West is best equipped to match up with a fully healthy Celtics squad? We have some Cavs fans among us. Oh, man. Um...

I mean, of course I'm gonna say the Bucs, but if there's... Mm. Even still. If I'm... If things don't go that way, I gotta go with the Cavs, man. The Cavs are playing well, too. Um... I would say probably Golden State.

Just because of Jimmy. I feel like Jimmy, the same way they have that that when Luka come in town, I feel like he has that mindset like, damn, I'm playing against these guys again. I feel like they have that towards Jimmy Butler

because he was the last guy to put them out the playoffs. Sometimes you got to fight that, man. You got to overcome that buoy, and I feel like playing with Steph and Jimmy, it'll be tough for them. So, Shop, former Celtics fan, moved over to the Knicks back in the summer, but talk about your old squad. Who do you think wants their smoke? Cleveland.

For sure. I think that's the only matchup that really makes sense right now. We don't talk about Cleveland's 14-game winning streak. We will be speaking about it. Dominance in the league. Gil's ready to present him a $100. Like, just for real dominating.

Even the matchups, I think it's even based on trades and rosters and injuries and who was available. Cavs have made some very strong moves as of late as well. Cavs is probably the favorites for me. That was a big move for them. That was a big move for them. Number one team in the league currently. They're going crazy right now.

I can't even front. They're going crazy. Man. What they did to y'all was crazy. Did defeat the Bucs recently? Tune with them, I felt like. Yeah, they did. Yeah, tune with them.

Some smacking noises in the background. Yeah, they did. Symbolize what that game was like. That's what's up. But back to Tatum, we asked the chat, does Jason Tatum deserve to be in the MVP race? 67% say yes. Based on what the Celtics are doing.

Let's talk about the other side of things. So we did our dog bowl. Rashad selected LeBron James in the first round. A bad omen for things to come for Lakers fans out there. I was hoping that you would pass him and let him flip to number six. But did not happen. So as I mentioned, LeBron left the game midway through the fourth quarter after suffering a groin strain. After the game, LeBron said there wasn't much concern with the injury.

But according to reports, he could be sidelined for at least one to two weeks while dealing with it you may remember bronze suffered a groin tear back in 2018 that caused him to miss 17 games but said with that injury he heard a pop but he did not hear a pop this time so LeBron needs to play seven more games to be eligible to make an all-nba team and the Lakers are still second in the West but have a tough stretch of games, playing both the Nuggets and Bucks twice in the next 10 days. So Gil, I'll ask you, resident Lakers fan, how much will LeBron's groin injury impact the Lakers' playoff push and seeding moving forward?

I don't get what you're trying to say. So we'll be down LeBron. He's saying push like we're in 10th. Okay. Playoff push, though. I'm what I'm just saying. You're saying push like we're like in 10th spot. Holding down the second.

Very tight Western Conference. So you're saying can we hold down the second, third, fourth, or fifth? Yeah, we good. Okay. Only two games separating. Second and fifth seats. We fifth. Yeah, we good. Okay. Only two games separating. Second, fifth sheets. We good. I got a question.

Who should Brian guard on Boston? Because it shouldn't be Taylor. That's what I'm saying. Who should Brian guard on Boston if he end up seeing him? Whoever he guard, we going to. Should he guard white and let Rui guard? Who?

Let guard white or guard Horford? That's what I was trying to think. Put him on Brown. Know how that's going to go. Porzingis. Porzingis, OK, yeah. You think Luka will be able to hold down the fort? Who Luka going to guard?

Who Luka going to guard This next straight. Oh yeah, who Luka gonna guard? Where was he going? Nobody as usual. Probably Drew Holiday. Probably Drew. He was the fourth referee. Oh God. The fourth referee.

Mm-hmm. 34 and eight. Out there in the way tripping motherfuckers up. How much he had? 34 and eight. Out there in the way tripping motherfuckers up. How much you at? 34 and 8. Damn. You like that, huh? 34. 34 and a loss.

It happens, yo. Valiant effort. I got a question for you, Gil. Will this make it harder or easier for Luka in these next couple weeks now he gets to run the show? Easy. Easy. Youron easy. So easy easy. He did He gets to understand the offense. Everything gets to go through him. He gets to see who does what right so him Austin Reeves Gabe they really got a you know, they get shots that they normally wouldn't get so Luca gets to play a lot more without LeBron.

Like when LeBron got off the floor, you've seen how dominant he was. So it let him get his feel for the game, get in shape a little bit. Let's see what you got. Let's see what the future looks like. Luka played 43 minutes against the Knicks. Let me get this squared away. 43 against the Knicks, 37 against the Celtics. Three straight 30-point games.

Had a 29-point game in the game previous to that 30-point stretch. You think Luka is equipped to carry the ship for the Lakers now? For sure. Shai, you were wearing a Lakers hat. I just want to point that out. For sure he is. I mean, you see what he did in Dallas? What he had before he came here?

Like, what he going to do here? Right? He might go on a triple-double run. Man. What did he do? Come on. Come on, Shai. Come on, Shai. All right, he might go on a triple double run man Come on come on shot. Come on You didn't see him before. Hey, no more. No, no, no, I'm not no I'm just But 20 games left

How many games you need to be eligible for like? There's 20 games left this season. I think he's already... He about to go crazy. Missed that ball. And Brian out for a week? He about to go crazy. At least a week. It could be longer than that.

First game starts... Initially, they said day-to-day. Reports are it might be week-to-week. I bet you he gets a triple-double out of these two games. First game gets Brooklyn? Oh, yeah. Oh, this is a triple-double tonight. Yeah.

If I double him every time he gets a ball, what happens? Y'all not going to do it every time. Then Austin Reeves or somebody else is going to go for 40. Papadum limo. Austin Reeves can go for 40. Yes. He already went for 40 before. That's 20 and 40.

That's 60. Luka just going to get 20? That's 60. Man. Alton connect. There's 40 more points to be scored. You can't double no more. That's what I'm saying.

You're not going to double Luke all game. You can't double no more. So next 10 games for the Lakers. They double Joker the whole game. They triple team Joker the whole game. And he's still got 20. Where's the shooters? Yeah.

No Uterus. Gay Benson is going to be out there. He's going to be shooting. Where's the shooters for Denver? Michael Porter, Jr. Okay, we gonna guard him. Now the other three, that's on the court. Triple team. Who's y'all's shooters? Uh, Rui can shoot the threes.

Black and Maul can shoot the threes. Gabe can shoot the threes. Austin Reeves can shoot the threes. The pick. We got everybody. Now, for Denver, you got. The pick. We got everybody. Now, for Denver, you got Westbrook. You have Gordon that's in the game at the same time with...

Jamal Murray, Christian Brown. Christian Brown. So sometimes you got those three in at the same time. So it's easy to triple-team Joker now. We want you chucking them. We want them to chuck those threes Joker now. We want you checking them. We want them to check those threes. We just face guard, you know? Be careful.

So, Lakers' next 10 games, I'll read them off. They're at the Nets tonight, then at Bucs, at Nuggets. Loss. Home versus the Suns, home versus the Spurs, home versus the Nuggets, home versus the Bucs, home versus the Bulls, and then they are on the road at the Orlando Magic March 24th. I might be in fifth when it's all said and done. Careful. Yeah, man, be careful.

Five. Cool. Not tripping. Not concerned. Unfazed. No sweat on your brow. Five. They play who at four?

Houston. Potentially the Warriors if they can go on a team. We play Houston and then we play OKC. Or Memphis. Cool. Our Memphis. We good. Not concerned. Yeah. Our Memphis.

It don't matter. Whoa. What's my? Four? I think Memphis at four. Or three. Don't matter. Oh.

All right. Don't matter. I mean, four is easier. Be honest. We play five, then we play OKC. True. You want the smoke with the Thunder right now, top-seeded team in the Western Conference?

Yeah, I take the Thunder. Okay. We talked about the Nuggets. Let's talk about historic evening. I'd rather do Denver before, you know. Talk about historic evening for Nikola Jokic. Yeah, yeah. You take a guy who's going...

Did you just see what they did to that guy? Jokic made history on Friday in the Nuggets overtime win over the Suns as he looks to strengthen his case in the MVP race and bring home his Ford trophy. Let's take a look at the highlights. If we can, Jokic stuffed the stat sheet with 31 points, 21 rebounds, 22 assists, and three steals while shooting 59% from the field.

I'm going to read it again. 31 points, 21 rebounds, 22 assists, shooting nearly 60% from the field. The 22-dime surpasses Joker's previous high of 19. He's set on February 24th and is the most biased center in league history. Obviously, nobody's ever had a 30-20-20 game before until Friday. Jokic got it done.

I don't see not one double. Didn't look particularly difficult. It looked like a... Trying. I don't know what they're doing. Trying. Yeah, they're... And then you can do with that.

Doing their best. As I said, sent the game to overtime. Nuggets absolutely dominated him in the extra period. So, Gil, last week on the show, you said Joker would need to have a mother-f-you game. I'm not going to say the F word, but a mother-f-you game with a 40-20-15 stat line. Shai, you said he needed a 40-20-20 game. Joker fell short of your prediction, but still did something that had previously never been done in league history. I think he has something like 80 of the Nuggets, 149 points if you combine points and assists. Joker fell short of your prediction, but still did something that had previously never been done in league history.

I think he has something like 80 of the Nuggets, 149 points if you combine points and assists. 84. 84? I believe so. I think I counted 82 or 83. Was it 82? No, it might have been 84. It was something in that range.

I hope it was 83. I didn't even include passes that led to fouls or free throws. His teammate Westbrook had the first, the Nipsey game, if you remember, the 20-20-20. Joe came through with the 30. Come on, it still worked. 20-20.

But what's your reaction that Yoke is dropping the first 30-20-20 game in league history? I mean, it's amazing. I mean, just amazing just how gifted he is at, I mean, the scoring. I mean, the scoring is the scoring. Rebounds are rebounded for a big. But, you know, the passing is what's so underrated, right? We see the assist,

but when you just start looking at the passes, his vision, how he sees the game, right? You know, everyone talks about, you know, Magic, Jason Kidd, you know, Pistol Pete, those, Steve Nash, their vision. Jokic is up there with the vision he sees. And, I mean, you can argue he's a fucking point guard and a sinner's body.

You know? Yeah. But, I mean, what he does out there night in, night out for the last four or five years is just fucking amazing. And, I mean, I know NBA is not going to change how they go through the draft, but this should read here, change how you do the draft because you can't see this in draft workouts. And if you're talking about a basketball player

five on five, you might need to start. If he played against somebody just one on one, it's just me versus you. My vision and my IQ don't kick in until you add

eight more players and some referees. I drafted this Chris Kamen. So put a five-on-five thing in the workouts. I mean, you're going to miss basketball players. Like, we're talking about somebody going down as possibly top three, top four centers of all time, a top ten player of all time. And you're telling me none of you guys seen

none of these attributes in your workout. Your workout is not equipped for this. So do they got to do more homework, go to the games, watch the games? If everybody work out, I mean, just think about it. Put him in a workout by himself. Yeah, I mean... He looks too slow, out of shape,

can't jump, lazy. That's what that looks like in a workout. Come on, can you go a little bit faster? Yeah. You know, put him against some other players, and then you can see he can backdoor, look, hand off. He can manipulate the defense. And that's what he's out there doing, masterclassing.

Swag, you've been critical of Joker in the past. What is this 30-20-20 game? It's just one game. It's still not MVP for me, so it's a great game. Great game. Still not sold? No, not sold. I'm sold.

I'm sold. That was high of 30-20-20 from a big. That's, he going to have to do, like, 20, and 20 from a big that's he gonna have to do like what they play again tonight they played the Thunder we were talking about

the yeah yeah no no they won but what are we doing so alright so we can't talk team and then we just

give somebody the MVP just cause it's of a stack well has SGA had that game you just said what is it about did MVP just because it's of a stat. Well, has SJ had that game? You just said. What is it about? Did you just say championships? But now you're jumping on this stat shit. Who won the championship yet, Nick?

I'm just saying. I'm first place. It's about winning, ain't it? I'm the champion. But I'm in first place by 13. No, I'm the champion. And the finals. What are you talking about? And I had 40 on you just the other day What are you talking about? And I haven't done nothing that I've done.

And I had 40 on you just the other day. You had 40 on me? I had 40. We were going to talk about SGA's 40 pieces momentarily, but we had to salute Joker with the 30-20. How many shots you took? You gave him four. How many shots you took?

I mean, 32. He took 32 shots to get 40? And he took 25 shots. It's not that far off. Not that far off? Hey, man. Huh? Hey, man.

If you can hunt, you can hunt. Has SGA had that game yet? Nope. Has he had that game yet to where it's like, yo, all right. Every game. Nick. Every game. Is you going to stand up?

Every game. Every game. You know what's scary about SGA, though? He's so fucking consistent. Yeah. Like, we're not talking about... You're talking about a guy who's playing... He's in the...

If it's 10 out of 10, he's at the 8-9 mark every single night. Right? He's not having some drop-off. He's playing at an 8-9 mark every single night, right? He's not having some drop-off. He's playing at an 8-9 every night, and this shit is going down to the wire. It's going to go down all the way. I think tonight.

I think tonight. If he goes 70-10-10, we're going to be going the other way. What was Joker's numbers? You know what I mean? We're going to be talking about, oh, shit, SGA back on top. 24-13 in the NL. It's 24-13 and 9, and I played like I just rolled out of bed. Following the 30-20-20.

Oh, man. Oh, shit, who we got? Who? Chet. Oh, shit. That kind of look like semi-retire. Woo! It's not. kind of like semi-retired My retire triple-double tomorrow time, I think tonight's game might be needed 20 games left yeah, but this and they gonna battle all the way to the end

Man, you might have one of those again tonight. I'm telling you SGA you have that in your arsenal, it's weird. Did you see what he was just doing? Oh, so. You could just go and get 20 boards. I'm 13. I'm just about to get 20. And he ain't thinking about it.

He's just like, ah, this is one of them nights. He's not thinking about it. Yeah, he's been playing with the ball. I got 20. Oh, yeah, he's thinking about it. Man, he's somewhere thinking about his horses. Man. He does love horses.

He ain't thinking about it. Y'all great. Nah. SGA right now is... He's calling the family back at home. Zoom call. He should be favorite. Here's why.

You only have 11 losses. He's currently the favorite. The betting favorite. I can be selfish as fuck right now. Without jeopardizing anything. The chances of us going to second, not gonna happen. So what I'm saying is I can go out there and sit there and try to get 60 or 70. My team, these niggas gonna help me.

They are. I can go out there and try to go 60 and 70, and there's nothing no one can do about it. They won't. Because me losing games just to stat this motherfucker up, there's nothing you can do. Because I'm such in... I have this big-ass gap average in 33.

If I go out there tonight and just say, I'm going for my own score of 70 and lose, the 70 is still gonna speak for itself why do you have to prove that you're the MVP because it's so close because you said the other guys a champion every time maybe so you said you said you said I have to prove it you have a guess who don't got nothing to prove you took the first one from me you don't have nothing to prove. You took the first one from me. I don't have nothing to prove. I know, but you took the first one. Y'all keep gassing this kid up so he can be disappointed once

again. Y'all keep gassing him up and y'all like, oh, just score a bunch of points. What are you saying? OKC still trying to get home court advantage for the playoffs. No, I'm saying the same thing. Yeah. Joker don't have nothing to prove. SGA does. Well, let's go. There's not a doubt in the playoffs, so you might as well. So, right? Joker don't take it all the way and win it. And he falls short. It's just like SGA winning it and then not going all the way. Joker got the same amount of pressure on him.

He can't win it and not win. He did it last year. That's not acceptable. He did it, what, two times, right? I think the one time he got it, he was in. He got it last year. That's not acceptable. He did it, what, two times, right? I think the one time he got it, he was in the MVP.

He got two, but he never won a championship on the MVP year. So even for him, it's not acceptable, but no one's beating him at it. No one's going

all the way winning it when they're next to him racing. So you got to give it to him because he's won before. No. If Giannis is next to him instead of NB, it go to Giannis. Because Giannis has won before. He's two champions. He's only won last year.

But what does that have to do with it? Because it comes down to if your team is winning at the end of the day. We all know that that's the metric for MVP. So at the end, like I just said, at the end, if Joker don't take it and he win, it shouldn't be. If he wins the MVP and he don't win the championship. We're talking about before championship. I know that. I know that.

I'm saying if he gets the award and he doesn't win it all, it should be. It should be, but it's not. He's going to have another trophy in his got there. But the same thing goes for SGA. If he win it and he don't fucking go. Now, see how that metric go? You don't give a fuck if he don't do it. He don't win it. If he don't win it...

How many players have... If SGA wins the MVP... If SGA wins the MVP and he doesn't win the championship... Yeah, and won it. How many people done that besides like Jordan and Steph? No, Steph lost when he won, right? He won when he lost. Doesn't happen a lot.

I mean, it doesn't happen a lot. But we talk about... That's rare. Jordan, I think Jordan got four, maybe. What did I say? I'm going to trade talks, and I'm the MVP. I think Jordan got four, though. So you talk about Joker's 30-20-20 game.

Never seen it before in NBA history. But you guys are real hoopers. I respect your opinion. What's more impressive in your opinion, a 30-20-20 game or a 60-point triple-double like Luka and Harden have already done? Man, 60 for the triple-double? I mean, for a big?

Or just period? Just the matter, big or nothing? Yeah, yeah. 30-20 and 20. I'm going to say 30-20 for me. 30-20 and 20 is crazy. It's insane. Because that's all you.

Everything. I'm doing everything. That's 20 buckets someone has to get for you. Right? The 60 is you, personally, and then finding 10 motherfuckers to score. 20 motherfuckers to score. Ain't that more? And scoring 30.

And getting 20. Yeah, and scoring 30. It's a close, if you combine the points and assists, very similar on both sides, but then you got the whole additional rebound. I mean, the 60s gonna stand out, but that 30, 20, 20, when you look at it, it gonna be like... I mean, he's the first person, so I... It depends.

If I did it like how Russ did it in the moment, because was big cuz it was like the same day as the past 20 20 20 I know that's what I'm saying. There's a 60 10 and 10, right? But I'm a 30 20 20 or a 60 point. I thought you're talking about how to all three To the passion what's more impressive in your in your expert opinions as Hoopers? But it's a 60 19 and 19, But is it 60, 19, and 19? What is the other fucking number? Oh, yeah. I'm going to say 60.

Because it's not like you're saying 60, 10, and 10. You're just saying a triple-double. Is it 60, 19, and 19? I'm taking that one. I'm saying 60. Fuck. 15 and 15. Unless it's 60, 10, and 10, you know.

You made me think about it. I know you will always find a loophole. That's why. Unless it's 60, 10, and 10, you know. You made me think about it. I know you always find a loophole, that's why. I'm saying 60. I respect it. Okay. But back to Joker real quick. So, talk 30, 20, 21st, I'm going to do it. Wilt had a 22, 25 rebound, 21 assist game with the Sixers.

Back during Black History Month 1968. We talk about, just from the offensive side, we're not going to talk about Joker's defense, but is Joker the best all-around offensive big man since, Will? He's had all around. I had to add, I also do loophole. Once you add all around. He's number one for me. I've never seen nothing like this in my 35 years.

I don't know. No. He's probably a better passer, yeah, to all of them. But for me, it's just, in the era that Shaq and Akeem and them was playing in, you could name other bigs, and right now I feel like you can't name another top five big except for Joker. So that's why I got to measure him up to somebody else.

You can't measure him up to Embiid no more. He's done. To Go-Burr? I don't think we ever did. Yeah no more. He's done, like, to Go-Burr. I don't think we ever know. Yeah, so. We wouldn't do that. I can't.

I done seen. I don't know. I can't. It's hard. Because when I compare him to Shaq, if I see them two down there, yeah, he might pass. You know, Shaq might make the nigga look like Sabonis. That's what I'm just saying. Might make the nigga look like Sabonis. So that's what I'm just saying. Might make the nigga look like Sabonis.

But then you got to come back down to that other end. Still all around. But I don't know. When he's talking about all around, it's like he brings the ball up the court. He plays point guard. He can dribble. He can create. He can shoot the three.

You're talking about just the offensive side. But who's letting him bring up the ball up the court back in the day? He can dribble he can create like shoot the three you're talking about Ball of the court back in it like a shack on Bruce stick them like you guys it's still his position Yeah, who's gonna go We've talked about that before obviously Shaq Joker gotta guard Shaq gonna be a long night But Shaq gotta guard Joker's gonna be, too. What I'm saying is... But he would be bringing up the ball, though. It's just an advantage. It's just something new you've never seen. It's just the evolution of the game, so it benefits him. I don't know. I see people...

If you put some pressure on that, bringing the ball up, he... So Shaq and fucking Yao Ming going to put pressure on him? Yeah, like Patrick... No, that's what I'm saying. When you compare him to his position. You can see. That's a four man. I can see.

That's a four man. Hey, Mark, that's it right there. That's a four man. Hey, man, somebody's going to guard. That's who guarding him now, right? No. Tim fucking Townsend. Five.

Five. This is not a five. Bam. This is a five. Bam's a five. Bam. Five. They're fives.

They athletic. They can move their feet. You can pick them up for a court. No, Five. They're fives. They got, they athletic. They can move their feet. You can pick them up for a court. No, but what I'm saying is- If I'm Bam, I'm making him turn, doing this shit all day. He ain't going to go between the legs and cross me. That means until they do it- But then I'm going to pass the ball. Right here. I'm going to pass the ball to the guard and I'm going to get my position and now I got you.

But that's the loophole he's in. Same like Giannis. Same like Giannis. Same like Giannis bringing the ball up. The fucking four men wasn't ready for that. They wasn't ready for it. What's KG going to do with that? He wasn't ready for that. Giannis coming down like that. What's Giannis going to do with KG? Going between the lane, fading away and crossing his lane.

What is he going to do? Think about the five when we compare them. Giannis and Giannis coming the ball down full court. The four man wasn't picking up full court. He's coming down full motion. Hey, do you know what that? All it takes is one time.

You just said, man, get the fuck out the way, Joker, and took the ball in front of him. I didn't see you there. You talking about the team. You talking about his teammates. I'm talking about just the player themselves. Just like Magic. Yeah.

Magic got a point guard. Magic coming down there, it looked so good. Fuck it, keep doing you. Magic not a point guard then. Huh? Magic not a point guard then? He was a small forward who can dribble and pass. So they was like, fuck it, here's the ball.

Who you? Magic came down there, got the ball. You off that? You off that? Know what I'm saying? Magic came down, got the ball. You off that? You know what I'm saying? That ain't not a point guard. That ain't not a point guard.

No, I said he had a point guard. Norm Nixon was a point guard who averaged nine assists. But Magic coming down on the break. And what they do. Point guard never. But did Magic play point guard in college and high school? Before Magic came, Norm was the point guard. And he realized, shit, he does this shit better. Norm, get the fuck going out of here.

But Magic played point guard, right? Yeah. Right. So, yeah, we got. But what I'm saying is, he's saying a point guard to say, give me the ball, Joker. If the nigga does what he does good, just like Turkoglu. Right? Turkoglu was a power forward, small forward.

Can pass and shit. When he get the ball, shit, I ain't got to get the ball from you. You know how to play the game. So no matter who Jokic played with, if he played with Jason Kidd, Jason Kidd would have trusted him enough to come down there and do the same thing. You're not going to take away his ability.

His ability is still to make the pass. You're going to take the ball out of Jason Kidd's hands for Joker to jog the ball up the floor. Boris Deo did it to... Actually, them two in the pick and roll together would be great. Boris Deo did it to Steve Nash. When Boris Deo had the balls... Boris Deo 6'8", man.

Okay. He was a point guard coming into the league. Yeah. Then he turned into a powerful... But no one took away his ability because it was Steve Nash. You're still going to let the dude do what he do. There's just two of us doing the same thing. Yeah.

So to say that Jokic will play back then and then a point guard will say, nah, don't bring the ball up. That's what you do. All point guards did that. But they wouldn't do it with him, though. Yeah, they would. No, if you know his skill set, it's something different. If we pressure him one time, you're going to be like,

get off the ball, Big Phelps, go down there. Give me the ball, go down there. You didn't do it to Chris Webber? Give me the ball, go down there. A lot of ADs. You acting like he's the point guard. You know what I'm saying? It's just like Chris Webber grabs it.

Get off the board and go one time. Chris Webber moving fast. Big Phelps, get off the ball, man. Go to the fucking block. I don't want to hear your fucking mouth, bro. That's what they would say to me. Hell yeah. If you don't give me the ball.

Big fella, what you doing? Wait, hold on. Was y'all playing as fast as we are today? Back then? Play fast, yeah. I feel like we played faster than that. If the big man is playing where he want the ball, give me the ball, man.

Y'all throw it ahead to shoot the three. Yes. That's not for the big. Yeah. So we asked the chat, what's more impressive, a 30-20-20 game or a 60-point triple-double? 55% said a 30-20-20 game.

McGill, as you pointed out, if it's 60-19-19, that may have changed their opinion. We also asked the chat, is Joker the best all-around big ever? All-around big ever. 70% of the chat said yes. Of course. What the fuck?

Cut, Mr. B. He's going to go down as the best big man ever. Jokic is going to go down as the best big man ever when it's all said and done. Yeah, because it's something we've never seen before.

He get number four, he beat Jordan. No, that's, I mean, listen, when it's all said and done. You see, man. Bro, Jordan, hell no. He's the point guard. What is wrong? Look, he's the point guard. He's the big man.

Watch. MVP, four MVPs. Don't do them shoulders no more, man. Don't you do them shoulders no more. No, no. Jordan, have you seen any MVP Jordan has? I'm going to say he will. He has five.

Like, Ruben. I ain't saying best player. It ain't going to stop. No, you're just saying going down as if he wins four. If he keeps it. As a big, to me, I think he's going to be one of the best bigs ever. A lot of people got four.

If he gets four, you can put him in that category. Never seen that. The best player ever. All right, well, let's keep it moving. So we talked a little SGA. Let's get a little bit more into it. There's one guy they consider the best player ever that got four. Right?

Yeah, four championships. Yeah. Are you talking about four MVPs? Four MVPs. Yes, because four of those is what? Four MVPs, championship. Oh, so that's four finals MVPs. Four finals MVPs. Yeah four of those is what? Four MVPs, championship. Four finals MVPs.

Four finals MVPs. Ain't hard. Did he have one? Joker got a finals MVP? Of course. Let the man finish his career. Who know? I know.

I'm just saying. I just think when it's all said and done, if he keep going this route, he's going to be hard not to. He's only 29? Yep. I picked him in the draft early for a reason. Good man. All right. Yeah. He's going to be hard not to. He's only 29? Yeah. I picked him in the draft early for a reason. Good man. All right, let's keep this thing moving.

So Jokic and the Nuggets had a tough test on their hands Sunday, pulled up to OKC for the first of two games against SGA in the top seed at Thunder. SGA had another impressive showing against the reigning MVP squad that surely got the attention of MVP voters in the nationally televised game. Let's take a look at the highlights. So SGA came through with his 11th 40-point game this season. 40 points, 8 rebounds, 5 assists, along with 3 blocks. 15 for 32 from the field, 8 for 8 from the line. He is now the second player in Thunder history with 3 straight 40-point games,

joining Russell, Westbrook, Jalen Williams added 26 points, 9 rebounds, and 8 dimes, and Chet Holmgren had 14, 8 boards. So Jokic followed up his 30-20-20 game with 24 points, 13 rebounds, and 9 dimes. 10 for 23 from the field, just 2 for 10 from deep. MPJ added 24 points and 15 boards. And Christian Brown had 19 points. So Thunder outscored the Nuggets 41-20 in the fourth quarter to get their seventh straight win this season.

After the game, SJ did an interview. Of course, his team heavy on the MVP campaign. That was nice. Bringing his aura to Oklahoma City. The Thunder, the number one seed. Trying to get it for the second straight year would be just a fifth. It was a takeover, the break's over. This don't count as MVP stuff. Takeover, huh?

Look at that. Four straight buckets. I look back, they was up 20. Playoffs, we gonna cram this up. Four straight buckets, all four in a row. This don't count, though, as MVP stuff, huh? I know. Playoffs, though, we're going to... It does count in the mind of bettors.

SGA currently the betting favorite to win MVP. He was out. He's winning the MVP. Every time you argue for him, he's winning. Okay, I just want to make sure. SGA is still up, right? So, still the betting favorite, but let's do a side-by-side comparison.

SGA versus Joker this season. SGA leading the league in scoring. Nearly 33 points a game. Joker third, though, at 29. I mean, dog. Come on, man. Also top three in rebounds. Come on, man.

I'm going to be honest with you, bro. That shit says second all time. Yeah. You're going to have to take it. You're going to have to take it. He holds the record for PER. This ain't saying... This numbers ain't saying, yo, I'm for sure MVP.

PER. Leaving that door open for that. All right. Huh? He also has the record. First, second, third. Looking to become Joker? First, second, third.

You don't give it the first, second, third? Second all-time PER. So Joker also looking to be the first player in league history to finish top three. 23,000 assists. Shit weird. Shit weird. Shit weird. Shit be weird as fuck. What a shame. So Joker also looking to be the first player in league history finished top three They play tonight they play again tonight, that's just a 74 74 Rebounds and 50 It's that second.

It's the one under that. It's the assist. You're not even top 10. Everything is one, two, three. Oh, that's fine. Not even top 10 in assists. Huh? It's the assist part. 13 games in front of you with all that.

No, that's fine. I mean, your team, but. 13 games in front of me. The only thing I give credit to Jokic for this, 12-game lead right now. Everything. credit to Jokic for this. 12-game Leroy. All his greatness for the last four or five years has been without another all-star on his team.

Talk it. Talk it. That is, to be honest, that's just impressive as fuck. You don't have another all-star with you, and this is what you're doing. So, I mean, you know you got to give the credit like he's making these guys look a lot better

okay and we're putting we're putting on it look at the future of the NBA look at the future we just gotta make it look nobody was saying Joker when it was Bubba Murray huh? y'all remember in the bubble when Murray... Is Murray an all-star? Come on.

Wait, is Jamar Murray an all-star? No, he's never made one. No, he's never made an all-star. Zero-time all-star. Oh. Which means he's never been... No, no, for sure, for sure. Still average.

I'm a zero-time all-star. I don't know that many... What, those numbers? If this was a different team... What Milton average? Who? Milton average. With, uh... average with more than Murray it was all right hey Nick does that say tie for second and

steals they're both yeah point a steals per game and then he won in the repeat and hold on hold on does that say tie for second in the league? He's playing against Brunson. He's playing against Gobert. Second in the league. Second in the league. In the whole league. So that means that all the other guards,

that guard, guards, right? They should be in front of him, right? There should be other guards in front of him, right? Who? In front of Joker. No, I mean, he mean really be leading the lead He should be leading so like we said SGA betting favor right now to win MVP It's when you look at the side-by-side comparison. I'm sure there's a lot of upset Nuggets fans right now saying goddamn

It's the first place and then that's what they say. No, they're not 12 games. No, they're not 12 games behind the thunder They try to figure out why he is second in assist. He's doing a better point guard job than the point guard in the NBA people. I'm more of a point guard than you. I'm more of a point guard than you. I know how to run a team. And I'm getting still so I'm playing deep. And I'm still putting them on your head.

What? Head top. Man, SGA averaging four more points. 29 a game, head top. You got the best center in the league, and me number two. So, but question for the couch. What more does SGA need to do to make voters overlook Joker's historic season to win MVP?

Or is his consistency just going, he can ride that out? He got to have that game, man. He got to have that game. I'm going to just be honest with you, just with all fairness. Tonight, he got to have that game. He got to take it. No, he don't got it tonight. He got 20 games.

He's 20 games. It's 20 games. 18 games left in the season. Tonight, though, because it's their last game, they match up, right? Yeah, but it's not like they play. It's not the same position. So, like, they're going to have a great matchup right now, and then Jokic falls off the rest of the season. Like, there's so many games left.

Do you know what the problem is? What is the problem, Gil? There's little things I don't like that comes from the media. I've heard Charles Barkley twice say, MVP, Shea, I don't like, because you have a vote, I don't like the fact that you already have stamped who you're going to pick. You can't do that.

I think that's unfair just as a journalist. If you have a vote, you shouldn't be trying to sway anyone. You know why he's doing that. He was like, when he picked him in, if you listen to him, when he picked him in the All-Star game, I'm going to take the MVP shade. You can't say that, dog. You know why he's doing that.

I know, but you can't do that. Right? You just, like, you have a vote. You basically telling the world you already picked who you want. Because of all the bigs in the 90s. You just got to... I already cut from my hair that... Nah.

The MVP. Motherfuckers, 32 games left. You already saying this man is the end. You can't publicly do that, even if you think it. It's just unfair to basketball. Even if you think it Is that just one thing is unfair to basketball like you're not you're closing the door to fucking let's say Donovan Mitchell fuck around half fucking five games of 50 you basically said I'll give a fucking about none of that or Tatum shit I already know who I got No, I mean, it's just yo, keep like just these two possible third.

You gotta be fair with this. And that's what it seems like they do. It's like, when they figured out who they wanna push, they stick to it and then they just spew it. You're not allowed to do that if you have a vote. Us, we don't have votes. So, you know, we can just say whatever the fuck we don't. They been doing for years.

They did it with like Joker. Like right now, right right if you have a vote Nigga the whole chat know who you voting for right, but they've been doing it, but we But we seen it like yeah, come on. Y'all got it like you're like you're pushing the narrative I'm saying like nobody else is gonna get it cuz like yo, this is my boat So I don't like I don't know what anybody do for what y'all talking about But this is something they, so it don't matter. Like, it don't matter what anybody do. What y'all talking about? But this is something they been doing the last five years. That's what I'm saying.

Well, your kids got a chance to whip all them bids out. And they made it all about Embiid or Joker. Some people saying that Joker's my vote. Yeah. If you have a vote, you got to just. We need a vote, damn it. I think at least one person on the couch. Like a collective unit.

Oh, no. We are new media. Collective. That'd be a great episode. It's like jury duty. Collective. What do we think, y'all? Be a great episode, nonetheless.

Sean, are you rolling right now? You pointed out all Joker stats. Do you feel like there's some collusion, some hate going on? Be the first center in NBA history to average a triple-double. Well, like I said, the narrative has already been painted. Even from last year, feeling like he had got robbed, they had to put him back in. If he even playing remotely consistent as he was the year before,

so there's a blueprint for this performance. It's a blueprint for their team success. So they're just rolling the wave right now. And that's why nothing has changed with his performance. That's why it's still the same. So does it stay the same like that in the playoffs? I'm saying, talking to you, McCants, what do I gotta do to win MVP? If I'm you, if I'm Shay asking you a question right now, and I got that, so what else I

gotta do? Get out. If I'm winning, doing everything I could, and I'm not, what else do I gotta do? More, like Kobe said. Yeah, more. More. So I got to have a 35? Just stop asking me the fucking questions.

Stop asking me that stupid-ass shit, like, what I got to do. Nigga, they'll give it to you if you deserve it. Did you do it? So it's wrong to ask a question? Did you do 30, 20, and 20? So it'll be wrong, like, damn, father, I really want to accomplish one of these goals. Like, I was, you know, working hard to do this and that. And I ask you a question.

And you say, stop asking me, motherfucker. Yeah, get your ass out there and do it, motherfucker. Stop asking questions. Figure it out. Because he's the only person that contradicts. He contradicts. He contradicts everything that anyone talks about. No, but that's the...

I can't ask a question. Nah, get out. Close the door. That's what I said. Close the door. Get out. The directions are on there. Don't be coming here to bother me.

You want me to answer it for you, motherfucker. I'm not giving you the answers. I give you the answers. Nah, get out. No, I'm not doing it for you. You'll know what you got to do when we reward you. That's crazy. It's a contradiction.

I did it. I did it, right? I did it. That's crazy, though. I didn't have to ask nobody. I just did it. I got it done. But everybody asks.

But... Because here you see who you're going up against. Don't ask me how do I beat him. Because look, this dude don't got no answer for you. All he's going to say is you weak pathetic fool. Right? But I'm just saying like, but. The first question is, you gotta win, right?

That's the first question. And I'm doing that by a landslide. Yup. Yup. Like there's no, I could sit back, I could stop today and win. Nobody can catch up. So now winning is the most important thing in the MVP this year? It's, I mean,, it's always been.

Ain't the goal everybody... Yes. But I feel like Shea is the contradiction to everything that they talk about. See, with Tatum, you can say, oh, you don't average enough. Yeah. Right? You can't say that with him. Right?

How many games has OKC won with him not being in the lineup? This season, let me put it this way. We don't know. He plays. I don't know. He might have played every game this year. Yeah, I think he played every game. Let me see. He's talking about people resting. He don't rest. The question is, here's the question.

If you take him off the team, do they still keep winning? Fuck no. No, man. The same could be said when Joe was off the court. I haven't asked him for this one specifically. No, no. You take Jay off the... How many games off the court. I haven't asked you for this one specifically. No, no. You take Jay off the... How many games have they won without him?

Check, they haven't played... Check, missed what, 40 games? I believe one and one this season. Don't even miss two games. If you miss two games, they're one and one. William Einstein, dork, man. What makes you the most valuable is how valuable you are for your team. So if you take a man in the league...

So what are you supposed to do? Sit out six games? Sit out ten games so y'all can see how bad the team is? So if they take him off the team, they might be just as bad

as Portland. Yeah. They're the youngest team in the NBA. He's the oldest. He's 26. He brings the age down. Right.

Take Joker off that team, would they? They still got Murray. Nasty workers. I mean, you got to fuck them. They have a better chance of getting to the playoffs than OKC. Yeah. I agree with that.

OKC without Shea and Nuggets without Joker. Nuggets have a better chance. Still have a chance to at least make it. I don't think OKC has a chance at all. Like, they don't. Yeah. That Nuggets squad has a chance to make the Western Conference playoffs. Just to make the playoffs?

Without Joker. They're playing. They're making play-ins. Yeah, I think what they're... Shet was hurt half the season. He just came back. Denver can still make the playoffs. They'll be in a playing game or something,

but they'll still be fighting. OKC has no chance. You take the 30 points that he's given you tonight from OKC, and you, let's just say, add five points to each other role player. Oh, man. They got to get that. Would that be enough to keep them in playoff contention? Would that be enough to keep them in top eight?

You can't just add five points on people. They got to do it. I know we can't. They got to do it. I know we can't. I know we can't. But if we put those people in position, right? Jalen Williams, we put him as the number one.

The number one. Then you got Isaiah Joe gets into the lineup. Dort gets to shoot a little bit more. Dort, leave him alone, right? Chet actually gets the ball down in the post. He gets to do his thing. I mean, these are guys who will probably just still be the same type of college team. They're like the Bulls. Well, if they lose, they'll be right at the bottom.

Thunder will still have an all-star on the roster. They'll be seven. You think a Nuggets player would be able to make the all-star? Wait, they'll be seven in the West? Hell no. No. They'll be like Houston. Oh, no, no, no.

What makes them different? Because they don't have a San... They got Sangum. Sangum, Jalen Green. Chet. Sangum. Chet. Sangum.

Chet Sangum. The same place.-goom, Jalen Green. Chet. Sang-goom. Chet. Sang-goom. Chet Sang-goom. The same player? Jalen Green? Jalen Green. Jalen Green, Jalen Williams. Next. Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks, Dork.

Next. Who else they got? Fred Fleek. Fred Fleek. Isaiah Joe. Next. Who? Isaiah Joe.

Who else is over there? A. Thomas twin. Who? The twin. Thomas. Thompson. Yeah, Thompson. Y'all fuckin' me up. He's the X Factor. He's the X Factor. What about Jabari and Smith and all that?

Yeah. That's the other... What's the... Harkin's the Harkinstein? Harkinstein. So they all met. So they will be Houston. Whitmore. So think about Houston. Houston matchup with OKC blows them over the top because SGA giving you something they can't cover the lamp.

What war it is? Five. Houston was up for five. But how long it took them to get there? Houston. A year? Houston is better than OKC. Listen,

if OKC don't have SGA, Houston is not even close. They just matched them up. He said Joe. Houston is way better than OKC. Joe just matched them up. So Sangoon and Chet. Dude, Joe even played on...

Is there even a Joe on the team? On the Thunder, yeah. I said Joe. I said, okay. You know why. He went to the next. You know why. Nah, nah, nah. He's on the roster.

I don't really have a decision. So, we asked the chat, who was your MVP? 58% say SGA. So, as we mentioned, Nuggets, Thunder. 58, that means the narrative is working. That means right... We got a chance. So, Nuggets and Thunder play each other. The narrative is working. That means right. We got a chance. So Nuggets and Thunder play each other tonight.

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5 p.m. Pacific, 8 p.m. Eastern, for our live Nuggets Thunder watch party. All right, let's show a little love to Chef Curry. So, Steph Curry added another milestone to his Hall of Fame career this weekend during a game against the Pistons on Saturday. We were watching it at the Pacific Beach Shore Club. Some of us were. We were. Some of us were eating lobster tails, drinking margaritas. Some of us were live streaming. LOL Hot Dogs was winning $300,000, but nonetheless Steph became just a 26th

player in NBA history with 25,000 points, knocked down a three in the third quarter to put him over 25,000. This three right here. And did a little hop as well. Also had a little incident with B-Stew in the game. We will not talk about that. What was that list again? Out of respect for our jaws.

What was that last list? The last top ten people? 25,000 points, I believe. Steph, fifth fastest guard in league history to accomplish defeat. He surpassed 25,000 points in 1,011 games, trailing only MJ, Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, and Kobe Bryant.

Mr. B, obviously you know, member of the Under Armour family, connoisseur of gentlemen's cut as well, like we all are on the couch. Yeah. When we have some extended days in front of us where we don't have to work. Sure. Because it is a very tasty beverage,

and we'll get you lit. Shout out to Gentleman's Cut. Naughty proof. Shout out to Steph Curry as well. What's your reaction to Steph becoming the latest member of the 25,000 point club? No, I mean, just testimony to his hard work. One of the greatest shooters ever.

Well, is the greatest shooter ever. My favorite point guard. Rick's. You know, my bad. Yeah, the greatest. And then, you know, the greatest point guard ever. But, you know, 25,000, he could probably, I think he's going to do 5,000 more points

to get to that 30 club before he ends his career. But just finish out strong, man. Like, just keep going. Like, it's a blessing to be in that position and be able to keep playing at a high level. And, you know, you still, your goal is to win a championship. So, you know, just shout out to him. Shout out to the homie Fred.

Swaggy, also known as Championship P, won a championship with Wardell Curry, also known as Steph. Oh, man. For me, I think it's just a chance for them to keep growing, keep cementing his spot. I think at, like, Argonvick being, like, the best PG ever. Changed the game. It's, you know, he got his own home where he could go back to any time, live there in the Bay. The people love him. Got everything that goes into being one of the best players

ever, so just keep four rings, 25-something thousand points, same team, just everything, really. Being what the littlest out of all the people that you consider like great, the greatest. So that means something. What do you think about Steph joining the 25,000 point club? It's amazing because, you know, it's really just off of IQ, hard work, and the ability to want to be great. I mean, you're talking about a guy who, you know, ankles was giving up on him at the beginning of his career.

So I know mentally that was frustrating for him. And so Mr. B had something to do with the 55 piece, definitely. No, so to see where he is. Y'all talk about that all the time. To see where he is. Y'all talk about that? Yeah, all the time. To see where he is today is just amazing. Just to be in that breath of one, two, three top point guards to have you play this game with the start-off,

it just shows his resilience, and it's amazing for him. Mr. B, drop 55 points on the Warriors. You say you and Steph talk about it all the time. Who initiates that talking point in the conversation? He always brings it up. He always says, you know I wear these ankle braces because of you. Oh. And stuff like that.

No, but shout out to him, too. He just became general manager of Davidson, his college. Assistant GM, I think. Yeah, the first active player to be the general manager of his college, so shout out to Steph. I active player to be the general manager of his college. Trying to bring some bread through there so they can get some Anaya deals cracking. Yeah, that's dope. Let's move over to Cemetery Larry.

The man who loves buckets. 25,000 points for Steph Curry. 26th player in NBA history to do so. How impressive is that feat for Steph in his Hall of Fame career? It ain't 50,000. Only one man has been able to accomplish that, obviously, in a combined regular season playoffs. We had spoken about him earlier.

This is a Steph moment. Huh? But you are wearing a Lakers hat. You asked me if it was impressive. What I got to do? What I got to do? Exactly. See? Exactly. Now you see how, I'm fucking being funny.

What I gotta do, bro? Like, god damn. I mean, 50,000, half of 25,000. Carolyn, I got a shot. A gentleman's cut, please. Watch the camera. I imagine if you walk into a strip club with $50,000 compared to somebody who walks in with 25,000, you may get more of the premium.

Hey, listen, man. You got a lot, you got a lot. You got a lot. You got a lot. You got a lot. You got a lot. You got a lot. You got a lot. You got a lot. You got a lot. You got a lot. I imagine if you walk into a strip club with $50,000, compared to somebody who walks in with $25,000, you may get more of the premium.

Hey, listen, man. You got a lot you got to do, man. There's a lot you got to do. There's a lot you got to do. You know what I'm saying? Every day they're sticking that bag. You never know what comes out of this bag. I see it.

You got a lot more to do. It's not impressive, man. You know what I'm saying? 25K, not impressive for sure. Not yet. 26th player in league history to accomplish. 40,000 gets you halfway there. 50,000, we talking shit.

Wow. We talking shit. We can't talk a little shit with 25, though? For a guy who wasn't even, like, who people didn't even have on their radar? Like that, and come out and just like... Wait, wait, wait. You can't talk shit? I thought you said you can't.

The guy who got $50,000 can't even talk shit. He can't say nothing about his son. I dare you to say nothing about your son. I mean, you, son. Nothing to worry about you, son. I need the guy who got $50,000 begging for his life. What else do I need to do out here? What I got to do? It ain't, maybe like, it ain't, uh, $70,000. You weak, pathetic fool.

Stop asking me what the fuck you need to do and. Just do it. I'm asking questions and I just 25,000 is impressive for a shooter. Damn broke it man for a small break or a small zone Who wasn't even on people's like radar like that? Like you know, they were saying stuff wasn't too, he was too small. Un-dribble. The janky ankles coming in. All that to overcome that? 25. Was he? The janky. He was like that Caitlyn, like that prize too.

No. Shout out to Nico for not saying, shout out to Nico for not calling his name right. The Nike meeting. Exactly. Nico has been fumbling back. Everybody was watching him in the tournament. Everybody was watching him in the tournament. But coming into the NBA, they were like, yeah, he's too small.

LeBron James was at the game. LeBron was at the game. Yeah, everybody was watching him in tournaments, but coming into the NBA, they were like, yeah, he's too small. LeBron James was at the game. LeBron was at the game. LeBron James. Like, J.J. Well, J.J. was part of it. J.J. Redding was one of them. The guy, Fredette, was one of them.

Yeah, Adam Morris. Adam Morris. Oh, you mean at that time in the tournament? Yeah, like all that time. He was a hot name in the tournament, but coming into the draft,

oh, they was knocking the fuck out of him. I looked at Klay. They said Klay was going to shit. Seventh, eighth man at best. Should be overseas. Like, damn. I told the Bucks to draft Klay.

I just let you know. I said, get this guy Klay. You know, there's a bunch of flaws in the NBA, and I just realized that with just the scouts. I was asking for that. Who is your scout? Like, Isaiah Thomas, Allen Iverson, Scotty Pippen. Like, those should be your scouts looking for whoever, right?

You got a motherfucker who has four four and his his work ethic was four no what is he no seriously like i was like i mean like what is your what the fuck are you looking at like let's be honest think about think about the end of these bitches people back here who were they when they played so so no just who were they who were they when they played late for the 90% of the people behind the bench? 90 people behind the bench were lazy players. They didn't have a work ethic and your star player Your star player supposed to ask him questions. What's the general manager for the Suns? Damon? What's his name? James Jones, right? And so what's what's wrong with I mean, he's in a temperate I'm saying like his I mean his career he had a great career, but he wasn't a star star player James Jones. James Jones, right? And so what's wrong with... He's in the 10th... What's wrong with him? No, I'm saying, like, his career, he had a great career,

but he wasn't a star, star player. Like, oh, my God. Like, you asked for Allen Iverson. Who? Who said who? Calvin. James Jones? Yeah.

James Jones. James Jones. He's the general manager, right? For the Suns. For the Suns, right? And Calvin Booth, too. Yeah. So, what's...

I mean, I got Katie. I got Booker. We went to the finals. Did you draft Katie? mean, I got Katie. I got Booker. We went to the finals. Did you draft Katie? I'm saying as the but as the general manager just know my job so I got We got to the finals I got damn Into the finals with him damn Presti. No, no, I know I know we're booked and James Jones. Yeah, James Jones was the was the gym for the Suns when they went to the finals with CP and we're sure Right. I put this team together as a guy who wasn't like as a guy who wasn't a star wasn't all that

But he knew the game was able to put a team together to compete for the final I'm I yet these are the same motherfuckers who bashed it as sons for being terrible for the last Oh, but nobody nope. It's the same motherfucking person, right? No, you just... If you're going to give him credit for that, are you not going to give him credit for this? You just said guys behind the bench or who didn't have a career like that don't know why you picking scouts. These are the guys who picking the players.

Yeah. Scouts? James Jones not scouting. He got scouted. But what I'm saying, he's damn near a scout. You're bashing... First of all, you guys are bashing the same person you're trying to hype. Who? Who's bashing. First of all, you guys are bashing the same person you're trying to hype. Who?

Who's bashing? The Suns. You're bashing the Suns for how they performed. Right now. Right now. It's the same person. Right now. It's the same person. So you're saying only stars should be able to recruit?

Basically. He's saying the scouts. Like, they should be. No. But that's what the conversation. We're not talking about bashing them right now. Look at Jordan. Look at Michael Jordan.

We're talking about the moment that you said that guys who didn't have a career like that walked a two-four point line. What did I see? He's not a scout. He's the owner. I said scout. He's a scout, too. He's right.

When I put a kid on my track, I talked to Michael Jordan. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

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Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Michael Jordan was sitting right there and hoping. But what did I say? I'm going to let you know. Did I put a percentage on it? Did I say 100? I said 90%. But we're not talking. Right, okay, Michael Jordan, the GM. One of the best players. One of the worst.

That's the worst thing you can do. One of the worst owners ever. Couldn't get his team over the hump. And you're talking about, what's his name? GM. I said GM. James Jones. A player that was a spot-up shooter, right?

A corner name. GM. A GM, a scout. Scout, everything. He was probably a scout first and behind the bench first, before all that. I said a scout and the people behind the bench. Okay. The people you're naming.

They represent James Jones and whoever he is. Exactly. It's not him. They represent. But where did James Jones start before then? He didn't just get the job. I don't know. So twice, it was I don't know who he said. I'm sure he was a scout.

First of all, I don't know who he scouted. Was Jordan in your workout watching? I don't know who he scouted as a scout. I said 90%. You're naming two people. I'm saying 90%. Now it's 90%. I said 90%.

At first you said, got behind the bench and behind the bench and south 90% from the beginning Who don't play what about a person? I think no Yeah, I think those farces cow did I say 90% I think I think the scar I think the dudes who are the dudes don't know what the hell they doing. Who's the laziest person you play with? Yeah, that I mean you just think of it. You start. Now, have him work out. What is he going to teach Giannis? Nothing. Okay. That's what I'm saying.

I mean, listen, I know he was probably lazy when he played, but you never know what people go through in life. He might have a different... Listen to that. It's like, okay, what could he teach Giannis? Nothing, right? Greg Popovich, never played... What could you teach Tim Duncan? He was a CIA agent so Phil play one attempt. Yeah, he wasn't a star. He wasn't a star. He wasn't a star anyone six of them

Steve Kerr wasn't a star. Yeah. And he won six of them. Steve Kerr wasn't a star. Steve Kerr wasn't a star. I said scout. He did the actual, he scouted the Suns with the Steve Nash in them. Yeah. I said, Steve Kerr out, and the people behind the bench. Y'all keep using everybody. Okay, so he just said Steve Kerr was a scout. Uh-huh. With the Suns.

And now look where he's at. Then who did he draft as a Sun? What was his pick? What was his picks? Who did he get over there? I don't know. I'm sure he's in. I see y'all keep talking.

But I'm sure he's in. I'm sure he's in. I'm sure he's whatever he was scouted, he gave them. So the criticism is this. If you haven't succeeded in the NBA, if you're a corner boy, you don't really deserve a goddamn win. You can't live. You can't be behind the bench.

You can't talk. You can't win. Your wins don't even fucking count. Your win is that You can't live. You can't be behind the bench. You can't talk. You can't win. Your wins don't even fucking count. Your win is that you didn't play. You don't mean shit. You don't mean shit.

You can't scout. How can you scout when you can't? I want to learn from T-Mac and them. I want them to scout the players because you wasn't

good enough to tell us what good enough players are. You answered my question. Okay. That was a question Who's got you was he right wrong? Oh, yeah, so you ain't

Somebody so a big-time player He knew who's got you that brother got value I don't know who's scouting me Yeah. So somebody, so a big time player, a star player scouted you? Scouted me, he knew. Who scouted you? That brother got value. I don't know who scouted me. How do you know who scouted you? I don't know who the scouts were. So how are we criticizing the scouts?

I know, but when you got drafted you didn't meet the scouts and all, like, you know, like when you meet the team. You know, I know who was on the bench trying to tell me what to do. And my first question is, how much did you... Yeah, but those aren't... No, I'm talking about the... Here, just like I told you, right? Today's game, the people behind the bench are players.

They're enhancing your skill. Okay, okay. Right? Yes. Now, that person I said, right, who was the laziest, imagine him trying to enhance and tell Giannis how to be a great. That's very difficult because this person don't know what it took, don't know what it takes because he is who he is, right?

Right? It's like having a fucking fat trainer. Can he talk to anybody else other than Giannis? Can he talk to anybody else on the team other than Giannis? If he's got a skill that Giannis needs. You can't have a fat trainer. No, he don't got nothing, Giannis B. He can't speak to Giannis at all because he has no credentials.

So if I got a skill, a special skill. And it's the same person who complains about the trainers. Training NBA players, he's saying they do not qualify to train these guys. You argued this against the trainers because their results are abysmal The results are abysmal. You can't have a fat trainer You got a you got a train on that for it all these what you mean? Here's all the shit. I eat don't eat my trainer had a little good still got out there and got his ass Was he nimble?

Chris Farley was fat. A trainer can't watch film and get this and do that and make it work. But you're saying a guy who was lazy as fuck went out and partied all night and he can just all of a sudden turn on and teach this great how to get great? We ain't talking about great. You always go to great. Why can't he just teach this

young rookie guy? It's a young rookie. He can't talk to the young rookie and teach him a thing or two? He probably could. But he can't talk to the great, though. They want to be great. Shout out to Gentleman's Cut. That's what we saying. A Gentleman's Cut.

The trainer can't teach a great how to be great? Same argument, man. Wait, so we saying. It's the same argument, dog. Y'all just use it when y'all want to use it. The star shouldn't talk to nobody no No, that's because we ain't got we don't know You ain't got the points yet no you can't talk to me nobody said it no

He's saying this like okay. Who are these scouts right? Who are these guys? They're not all former players. Former players. Not all of them. All of them aren't former players, though. All the scouts aren't. That's what we're talking about right now. We're talking about the former players that are scouts, that are not stars, should not be there because they can't recognize star talent.

Was Ben Baker a star? Yes. Okay. Who? Ben Baker. For reference, scouts make between $40,000 and $100,000 a year. He upcoaches. He's a star? Yes. Okay. Who? Ben Baker. For reference, scouts make between $40,000 and $100,000 a year. He a star and a big man.

How would he know if a guard was a big and safe? No, no, I'm just asking. No, Ben Baker, right? He was a star. So he's on the coaching staff with the Milwaukee Bucks. That's perfect. Mm-hmm. Sam Cassell.

Was Sam Cassell a star? Yes, I consider him one. He was a star. And he helped me. And he's unbought. And he worked. And he knew how to work. Just, yeah.

Who else? Who? Jared Dudley. Jared Dudley. Jared Dudley. Jared Dudley. Yes, I consider him. He's on the he was any help any help me and he's on but he worked and he knew how to work I just Who was? Hold your Dudley Jared Dully is Jared Dully a star or is he a corner guy James? Right, but but he's not a late, but was he lazy No, I don't think so hard worker did call him junkyard dog. Okay. What's we got? Oh, who else we got here? Jared Jack on the...

Jared Jack. Okay, Jared Jack. I didn't know this was going to be crazy, though. Okay, no, no, no. No, Jared Jack. Okay. Pistons. Solid. Respected, for sure. Very solid. Okay. Do we listen to him? If I'm a young guy?

Yes. Yes, for sure. Von K. Cunningham? Yes. For sure. I want to know how to be a great. Yes. Yes. He's be a great. Yes. Yes. He's not a great. His work ethic was.

Oh. I said that already. You guys just be talking. No, no, no. I heard it. I said it already. But what determines somebody's work ethic? I don't know. Because I've seen him work out, and then I've seen him out at the club the same night getting drunk.

So how can you determine somebody worked at this? I don't get it, though. Okay, but has Jerry Jack... I hate that question. I know, but has Jerry Jack... How can you tell somebody working hard at night, though? Because has Jerry Jack ever had somebody say he didn't work hard, he wasn't in the gym?

See, people, like, they'll say things, so it's obviously something. I've never heard nothing bad about Jerry Jack. Never. I've heard he's always in the gym, love the game, boom, that's where he's at. Who else? John Lucas' son. But this is not the question we love the game, boom, that's where he's at. Who else? John Lucas, son. But this is not the question. Right, right, right.

John Lucas, son. Wasn't a star, but in practice, oh, yeah, I'm going to go at everybody. Oh, yeah, I know every angle, everything about the game. That's why his brother just got the job at Miami. The conversation is, you're a role player,

and you are a scout. You are never a star. You're not qualified to scout star guys. You're a role player, and you are a scout. You are never a star. You're not qualified to scout star guys. You are. That's what he said. No, but he said you're a work at. But you're a work at. So, okay.

Okay, you get the job to be a scout, right? Man, we can't. Nick, Nick, don't. This is crazy. Nick, don't drop. Don't drop it. He's letting him. Because we got it.

We're right here. Nick, we're right here, Nick. I know. Nick, I hear you. Nick, we're right here. You don't even know what's going on. Nick, we got drop. Don't drop it. He's letting him. Because we got it. We're right here. Nick, we're right here, Nick. I know. Nick, I hear you. Nick, we're right here. You don't even know what's going on. Nick, we got him. No.

Nick, we got him right here. Yes. They trying to get out of it. They can't. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. No, we're all together. I'm just.

No, we are together. I'm not challenging him. We both said. We're not challenging him. Listen. I'm getting him to say it again. Listen. No, you're getting him to say it again.

You're trying to make him change. So if you guys get the job for a scout team, right? He's saying we are not credible enough to try to teach Anthony Edwards. I can't go talk to Anthony Edwards. Why can't you teach Anthony Edwards? Because you said I'm not a star. No, that's what you're saying. No, you said that.

No, you said that. You said you shouldn't listen to a guy who wasn't a star. Who averaged four or five. He was a high level. He said that. Didn't he say that? See, that's what I'm talking about. Every time I keep trying to talk, you just talk over me with your opinion.

Are we listening to the same thing? No, we're not. Josiah, you're here. You're here. You didn't hear nothing. You didn't say that. Moderating, hosting. You didn't hear nothing I said.

I'm actually on the Ikea website right now looking for a new now What did you hear? He said lazy and a guy who average four point or four? Thank you. If you're lazy if you have to work ethic then holla fuck Can you teach John as he said work ethic then he said a guy to average four or five before they appreciate it he say If I appreciate I don't need to say you're not a star a star. You're not a story Right You're not a star. A star? You're not a star. And you're recruiting. A star that didn't average. Right, right, right. That didn't do this. It don't matter, though.

So if I average four, I can't teach them. He did say star. Get that. If I average four in the league, I can't teach them. You can't teach a dude that want to be a star. He said you can't teach a dude that want to be a star if you average. I know what they wanted to hear. No, I heard AI, Tim Duncan, and other shit.

If you ain't thin, they should be the scouts. That's what I heard. I did hear that. That's why I bought it. They should be the scouts. That's why I heard A.I. I did hear that. They should be the ones sitting behind the benches.

That's what he was saying. I did hear that. What do you mean? Only what you wanted to hear. But I also heard what he also said. Yeah, you heard all of it. So he said this and this and that, and then he said, well, a guy that's lazy and a guy who averaged four or five. That's called mixing the pot. You guys don'taged four or five. That's called mixing the pot.

That's called mixing the pot. He's going to mix the pot until the viewers are confused and we have to come back and be like, look, he did say it right here. He said it right here, and then he stopped and pivoted and brought the goalpost up and waited for us to move it around. Then he came back and said, no, we're going to talk about this right here now. No, I said, this is what's on the menu steak No, no, no you say that sides. I got mashed potatoes corn

Broccoli I got juice and all you heard was fucking broccoli. All you heard was corn Where's the rest of the fucking food, but he heard everything? Yes Yes, he heard everything he said Recruiting he said not a star. He said, recruiting. He said, not a star. He said, lazy. Lazy. Lazy. Lazy.

Lazy is a big thing. Behind the bench. Average four points. Average four points. Four or five points. You can't teach me how to be great if you were never great. If he was lazy, average four points is the criteria. I set the criteria. You can't just pick what you want.

But you can't just pick out the lazy part and say, that's what I was talking about. That's what it is, yeah. You can't do pick what you want. But you can't just pick out the lazy part and say that's what I was talking about. That's what it is, yeah. You can't do that because you said a whole bunch of shit. So you can't just pick one thing out of the thing. You just heard this. It's like, you said 17 things. I said 17 things.

So the 17 things is the thing I'm saying. You can't pick the one you want to use. Jesus Christ. Was AI lazy? Was AI lazy? That's who you said should be the scout. So there's a stick on the people's name. I said AI looking for a scout. There's a stick on the people you know. Was. lazy? Huh? Was A.I. lazy? That's who you said should be the scout. So there's a stick on the people's name.

I said A.I. looking for a scout. There's a stick on the people you named. Was A.I. lazy? No. You said A.I.? Tim Duncan? Tim Duncan?

No. You said J. Jack? I said no. You said Dully? I said no. John Lucas? I said no. Oh, oh, oh.

Mike Dunleavy? Mike Dunleavy. And that motherfucker was in the gym every day. But he's asking me a question. I'm saying, fuck, that's their fight. Mike Dunleavy was in the gym

every day. I played with Mike Dunleavy. But Bryce, he said that after. But he's asking me a question. I'm saying, fuck, they're fine. Mike Dunley was in the gym. I played with Mike Dunley. He said that after you said... He asked me the names. I said, yes, they qualify. So, okay. So they qualify. If I have a high-level score on my team

and I had players that came through my organization that were very high-level, I would hire them back to teach him. Okay. So Doug Christie's a good hire for the Sacramento Kings high level No, no, he would not know but I know it but it's not about being high It's about was he lazy or what was your hard worker? Well, you're a score your score your score if I have a score on my team

I want to hire you guys to teach him how to tap into his ability, but there's I'm not gonna teach Who's gonna bring in Pat Beverly. Who's more qualified? I'm not going to bring in a Pat Beverly to teach you how to score. Would you pick Ray Allen over us? You see why he can't? Would you pick Ray Allen over us? That's why he never hears because he just talks over it.

Would you pick Ray Allen over us? Patrick Beverly could teach him work, can't he? I have a high level score. What is Patrick Beverly going to teach him how though, can't he? I have a high level score. I don't know how to stay in the league. What is Patrick Beverly going to teach him how to tap into his ability? Right. He could tell him to find a niche.

Because your ability is to score. Like, working hard, that's what. But you got to find a niche first before you just go out. I have a high level score that I need to tap into his ability. Someone like Patrick Beverly, I don't need that. I need someone that knows how to tap into this ability because they did it before. So if you had to choose between all the people you could choose

for that high-level player to learn from, would you pick between me and Nick or Ray Allen and Paul Pierce? Hold on, that's what I'm going to say. It depends on what type of player. So what type of player are you talking about, though, right now? Are you talking about a high-level three-point shooter? He said a scorer. Just a scorer.

So a flat-out scorer. Flat-out scorer. You're not going to come to the corner, boys, when you can go get some two Hall of Famers. So he's a two or three. So the player plays a two or three. Okay, a two position. So if I have Tatum and Brown,

and I got a hire between Paul Pierce and Ray Allen, or Paul Pierce. And me and Nick. Them two and me and Nick. I don't get a call. I will call you, Swag. Yeah, but... We sit here like...

Okay, listen, listen, listen. We can teach you this. All right, listen, listen, listen. No, no, no, no, no. Listen, listen. No, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, wait, hold on. Wait, hold listen. No, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Wait, hold on.

Wait, hold on. Wait, hold on. But he's not hiring you because of the history with the Celtics, though, also. It's not because of what y'all can't do. If I'm hiring Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, they have history right here with the Celtics. We're not talking about hiring us for the Celtics. You can hire us anywhere. You can say it's fucking Portland.

It's between us. Oh, you didn't say that. Okay. It's between us four. Oh, so anywhere. You're hire us anywhere. You can say it's fucking Portland. It's between us. Oh, well, you didn't say that. Okay. It's between us four. So anywhere. You're going to go with them because they're who they are. You got Maxie and McCain over there, right? Okay.

Who would you hire to teach them how to play the game and score on that level since they're scorers? Tony Parker. Allen Iverson? For sure, it would be one. Tony Parker would be the next. Brandon Jennings? Brandon.

Good choice. Brandon and Tony. Who would you hire? I'm hollering. Allen Iverson? A scorer? You could hire somebody like Trey Burke too. They want him to look at. Mark Price Trey Burke, too. They wouldn't even look at.

Mark Price. Mark Price. Mark Price is a good one. Mark Price is a good one. I do. I go back move. I go back move with McCain. McCain would benefit from somebody like Mack move.

Chris Jackson and Mark Price are stars. Did y'all see you over here? I said Trey Burke. We heard what you over here? I said Trey Burke. We heard what you said. I swear for Trey Burke. I know. We heard you. You hired Trey Burke to play with him?

To teach him some shit. To teach him some shit. Ain't that the point? I hired Trey Burke to play in the 505. That's the light-skinned point. Like AI, right? That came back looking like AI. All right, Ray. Well, I mean that Ray Felton is a big big now

But I would do I would Ray Felton. I would tell Ray to go back and teach them teaching About underdog He's a little bit big. He's a little bit big. On that note, let's move on to Mostly Fans. Let's move on to Mostly Fans presented by Underdog. I'm thinking a dollar's no worse than making that baby the game winner. This all about you just naming them over there. That's how we gonna talk, man. I mess up all the time. Ladies and gentlemen, download the Underdog app. Use promo code GIL. Get $1,000 of bonus cash plus a special pick-em.

We have one Mostly Fans question. For a score, you know who I would hire? Mike James? Ben Gordon. Ben? Yes. Yes. For certain guys.

Yes. For guys who come, I'm hiring Ben Gordon because... My man, Ben is a serial killer. Don't have to come off the screen. He's a serial killer. And still be able to get into here. Off the bounce, yes. Ben Gordon is somebody that I don't know if NBA players or NBA coach, but that mother

mother had game. Everybody knows who Ben Gordon is. But let's't know if NBA players or NBA coach anybody, but that motherfucker had game. Everybody knows who he is. We're familiar with Ben Gordon's guy. But let's move on to most defense. I know, Kevin Willis, because he's going to teach you about the weight. Kevin Willis, strong, getting weights, yes. Durability. AC Green, teaching you how to stay to yourself.

I got Kevin Willis for you. No cheeks. No cheeks. No cheeks. Teach this motherfucker how to score. No cheeks a week. No cheeks. I got motherfucker how to school. No cheeks for weeks. No cheeks. I got you.

I got you. Pick up those 100 pound weigh-ins. Let me show you something. So we have one Mostly Fans question from underdog user bblgillypill12. Bitch, we don't wanna talk about no motherfucking Trey Burke. Let me Google. He went to Michigan. Trey Burke went to Michigan.

Troy Mann? He looked like Allen Iverson. He's a monster. Yeah, Google. He went to Michigan. Trey Burke went to Michigan. He looked like Allen Iverson. He's a monster. He's a monster. Trey Burke is a monster. Ladies and gentlemen, so we have one question today for mostly fans from underdog user BBLGillyPill12.

That is BBLGillyPill12. And BBLGillyPill12 would like to know what needs to happen for JJ Redick to win coach of the year? This is again a question from underdog user BBLGilly, PIL 12, would like to know, what needs to happen for J.J. Redick to win Coach of the Year? This is, again, a question from underdog user BBL Gilly, PIL 12. What is he going to do to win Coach of the Year right now? Kenny Atkinson, heavy favorite. Bigger staff second.

J.J.'s currently third. Cleveland got that. That's a wrap. It's over? There's nothing he can do. If J.J. can help, will the Lakers the greatest with LeBron? Listen listen, I'm not saying this is gonna happen. I'm just saying this is how they throw the narrows out there Let's say they go on a five-game winning streak without Bron being with some exquisite game level coach, you know damn well

they're gonna start throwing his name in there, but but Bigger staff has Bigger staff name in there. But, but, Bickerstaff has it. Bickerstaff has it over Kenny Akers? For sure. He's in landslide right now. But I'm just saying, if they want to throw his name in there because he's sitting second, which is technically for him, first.

Technically for him, because who was coach of the year last year? Wait, can you win back-to-back coach of the year? You can. Push the narrative. You just can't be the all-star coach two years in a row. You can win coach of the year back-to-back. Has anybody ever won that?

Mark Dagnall from the Thunder won it last season. That's what I'm saying. Can he win it again? Mark Dagnall, he could if the voters felt inclined to do so. But they may go a different way. Like when Steve... What year did Steve Kerr win Coach of the Year? Mm. Wasn't it the 70... It wasn't the 72 season?

Huh? Was it the 72 season? Yeah. 73 season. Okay. And then, as pointed out, he did win Coach of the Year 2016. It was a 60? 2016 season, proceeded to help guide the Warriors to blowing a 3-1 lead by another LeBron James, Kyrie. So where's OKC coach? I got one. Dagnon won it last year.

I know, but where's he at now? I went up to top three. Let me see. Coach of the Year. Would y'all hire Flip Murray? Yeah. I would. Shout out to him. I would.

Shout out to Ronald Flip Murray. I would. I would. Yeah. What about Jamal Crawford? I would. So Dagnon I think is Jamal Crawford. Jamal Crawford, Flip Murray.

No one has won Coach of the Year consecutive years. Larry Brown did in the ABA, but not in the NBA. Finally. He's already hired. Mookie Bleylock. Yeah, uh, yeah, Roy Ivey, he got the Wakanda, he got the, uh... but not in the NBA history. Where you're already hired. Mookie Bleylock. Yeah, Roe Irving, he got the Wakanda. Did you say Wakanda?

No. Yeah, you were in the process of saying Wakanda. I said Wakanda. Wakanda. Go crazy with some more Irving. What the fuck is wrong with you? You think that's racist? It's not like you were about to say Wakanda. I swear I thought it was Wakanda.

I was going to say. Drew Gooden. What team does he have? Yeah, well Ivy is what's right you were huh where RVs on the bench with a rockets rockets the Rockets and he's a coach Shout out to Royale. I've been making an appearance on gills arena presented by underdog woo woo Make sure you download that piece promo code give get up to $1,000 bonus cash plus special pick. And last thing we have to do on the show today, as a reminder, it is our Gillian subscriber giveaway. Can we first?

Come on, man. That's what I didn't want to call it. Yeah, yeah. Can we first, you? Gillian subscriber giveaway. Sounds good. I'll look it up for you. The question is, do JJ deserve it?

I don't think so. OK, ay yo, so do JJ Redick deserve the... Because if we're talking about who deserves to be in that position, does he? No. No, he doesn't? But they're number two right now. Well, by you saying that, that means that... No, no, no, I'm just saying they're number two right now, but he doesn't deserve it.

No. I think he does. Because all they was doing is technically, by the talent that they had, they were technically underachieving in a sense. Go ahead, Mr. Simmons. You're saying Cleveland is overachieving by the talent that they have. No, no, no. I'm just talking about that.

That's what it means though. If you say they don't deserve it. No, he's saying that JJ deserves the credit for even what he's done, like not being a star player and you know what I'm saying? Like for what he's like, like what he's came in to accomplish. That's what he's saying. I don't know what that means. It has nothing to do with me. You can't lie to me now, J.J. He was a corner dude running around, going down screens.

Don't you do that. Why you do that? What does that got to do with you? That's what you were basically asking. You funny. You funny. That was good. That was a good way to bring it all back. It was good. No, I'm just asking. JJ was probably the hardest working teammate ever.

Okay. Okay. So he wasn't. So, of course. He was the hardest working motherfucker. He co-hosted the Mind the Game podcast with LeBron James. But I'm not going to give him credit for the success because LeBron, Anthony Davis, the team we had, this is where we, that's where they should have been playing. So he's just got them back to where they should

be playing. So you don't think his work ethic? So I personally am a Laker fan, I'm not giving him credit for... Okay. So you don't think his work ethic and what he meant like... Yeah. But you still have LeBron James, Anthony Davis, LeBron James, Luka. That's fine. So did other coaches before that, though. I know. So somebody on this base. Hey, Darvin Hamm worked hard.

He was a hard worker. He was a hard worker. He worked really hard. You know who works really hard, too? All the five people at Underdog. Hey, he was a hard worker, bro. You can't even say that. Yeah.

Hard worker. You know who else was a hard worker? Who was the coach for the Bucs? They got fired. Adrian Griffin. Adrian Griffin played harder than a motherfucker, boy. And that's why they're 31 and 32. Doc Rivers did too, though.

Doc Rivers played hard. Glenn, Doc Rivers. He played hard too. But now it's time to wrap up this show. So it is our Gillion Subscriber Giveaway. As a reminder, for every 1,000 subscribers we get between $900,000 and a million,

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Everybody. Uh-oh. Everybody in the chat. All right. Stephen A. Smith said he will be here motherfucking tomorrow. Make sure them two is on. Stephen A. Smith is finally stopped ducking. Gil's Arena will pull up tomorrow. Make sure them two, who are them two?

Send me the address. Who are them two? He said, send me the address. Let's have security jam him up, though, just to keep him humble. He said. Well, who on tomorrow? I'm okay. He didn't

say this but I just okay and the other one it is just that's I guess it's you he said he'd be here tomorrow that's that ready hey I'm the I'm the guy you can't speak of don't say his name around here the cookie monster if you want to man candy man too many times Larry man Larry man. I want them prepared. They need to be. Nick, you'll be sitting here just watching. They need preparation. Stephen A. Smith has ended his

Bills Arena smoke ducking. Will be in the arena tomorrow. I need popcorn. 137 days of ducking. Come to it. Ladies and gentlemen, don't meet us there. You better get there early. This is an endless bag. We're ready to go.

This bag is deep. We will have a body bag ready to go. Very deep. Still uncertain who will be in the body bag tomorrow, but Stephen A. Smith is coming on Gills Arena tomorrow, Tuesday. Gills with the breaking news announcement. But until then, we appreciate everybody. We appreciate all you in the chat for supporting the show. This has been another episode of Gills with the breaking news announcement. But until then, we appreciate everybody. We appreciate all you in the chat for supporting the show.

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