Gil's Arena - LeBron James & The Lakers Are NBA Champions Once Again!!!

Episode Date: December 11, 2023

LeBron James & The Los Angeles Lakers are NBA Champions once again as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew Celebrates the Lakers In Season Tournament Win over the Indiana Pacers and discuss what th...is big win means for the legacies of LeBron James and Anthony Davis as they are the first ones to take home this prestigious honor. They also break down Tyrese Haliburton's stellar play during the IST and discuss whether or not his statement play was enough to turn him into an NBA Superstar before finally addressing the latest drama surrounding the New Orleans Pelicans and Zion Williamson's ever fluctuating conditioning. Remember to Like and Subscribe!! Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. SUBSCRIBE:  / @gilsarena   APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 Chapters Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:32:28 Gil's Hilarious Appearance At a High School Game 0:44:00 Woj Spoils Dylan Harper's Decision 0:46:50 Ohtani's Record Breaking Contract 0:53:59 Bronny's USC Debut 0:58:01 LeBron & The Lakers Win The In Season Tournament 1:01:41 Lakers Ceiling When AD is Playing Well  1:09:50 The IST Cements LeBron James As The Goat 1:18:55 Haliburton's Coming Out Party 1:31:56 What's Next For The Pacers 1:35:52 Haliburton Says There Won't Be Another Face of The NBA 1:42:49 Can Ant-Man Carry The Timberwolves To The Top? 1:54:59 Zion Continues To Struggle With His Weight 2:09:08 MostlyFans 2:35:23 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:04 Welcome back to Get The Rid Of It, getting my $100 fantasy. We talking about flashing lights, baby. Flashing lights everywhere. They just been saying shit about me, they didn't even fucking know me. This is my story. This is what I was doing with what nobody knew.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Y'all don't know what goes on in practice, or the locker room. You're welcome! Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. Whoa, whoa! We're just talking California tax code and things of that nature, you know. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. They act like some ho, ho, hoes. When it come to getting this bread.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Let's go. Okay. We got the festive decorations here. Shout-out to our crew. Yeah, I see this shit coming. We back, we back, we back, bitches. Shout-out to the crew. They do their thing. Mm-hmm. We left know. They did their thing.
Starting point is 00:02:26 We left Thursday. They got to work. And I was not disappointed. We got the little train track. Yeah, I did some things myself in here, too. What'd you do good? Nothing. Just watch like, this is a good-ass job y'all doing down here.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Keep up the good work. You're project manager. Project manager. Celebration. Yeah. You provided the venue for it to be done. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy. We got the legend, Gilbert Arenas here with us as always. You got the switch?
Starting point is 00:02:54 Oh, whoa. Light the smoke. Not yet, not yet. I was just trying to make sure it worked. Senator brought you a little switch, huh? We got Brandon Jennings back here with us representing Tough Crowd as always. I'm just trying to make sure it work me, I ain't. Senator brought you a little switch, huh? Senator, can you lower it? We got Brandon Jennings back here with us, representing Tough Crowd, as always. What's up with you, B?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Chillin', bro. You good? I was, uh, I was, uh, I had a chance to go see Dave Chappelle last night. Oh, wow. Off-road? Yeah, at the Hollywood Improv. How was it? It was good, man. He did a, uh, did a two-hour show. He was drunk, but he was, uh, you know, he was just cracking jokes. It was good, man. He did a two hour show. He was drunk, but he was just cracking jokes.
Starting point is 00:03:26 It was cool though. No phones. Yeah, they make you put them in the bag or how they do it? Yeah, they make you put it in the bag. But it was cool, man, just seeing them up close. Him and Craig Johnson, I think. Something like that. Robinson?
Starting point is 00:03:38 Yeah, Robinson. Yeah, Craig Robinson. Yeah, my bad. I think he live out this way. I seen him at the local Ralph's one day. Yeah, so they were doing like a live karaoke or something. The janky one, though. The janky one by the high school. I won't say which one.
Starting point is 00:03:50 You know. But they were killing it? Yeah, no, it was cool. It was cool. We got Rashad McCants back here with us representing the workshop. Big Hat University. That's where we at. Roll out my name. It's the do-do- doo. Yeah, I got my shit together. The workshop!
Starting point is 00:04:05 Shit. What up, boy? Hey, Pop. You can't hide, Pop. Pop, you better stop fucking hiding. I know who you is for real, goddamn. What? Where's the way?
Starting point is 00:04:13 We got... Oh, shit. What's in this? Oh, we got gifts already? What you got? It better be some socks. Is it a chain? Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:04:21 What's in this? Oh, shit. What's in this? Oh, shit. What's in this? Oh, shit, what's in there? Oh, we got, oh we got gifts already? What you got? It better be some socks. Is it a chain? Oh, that was a real brick.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I thought it was a real brick too. Gold brick? Gold bar. Oh, some beverage, okay. Not quite yet, not quite time. Oh, this is beverage? There's some beverage in there. Oh, this is the gold bar vodka shit.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Uh-oh. Whiskey? Oh, it's whiskey. The whiskey zone. Shout in there. Oh, this is the Gold Bar vodka shit. Uh-oh. Whiskey? Oh, it's whiskey. It's the whiskey joint. Shout out Angela out here getting it, TikToking. All right, Angela. Yeah!
Starting point is 00:04:52 Woo-hoo! Woo-hoo! She got the tiki punch from you on deck. I got tiki punch. I saw that in the fridge. Damn, TikTok, TikTok. Girl, trying to get me drunk. We are officially a black junk.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Trying to get me drunk. Trying to get me drunk. Going to take a little swig. You got the whiskey and the janky punch. See what this man has done. I'm going to put a little bit in my coffee. That's why we are the number four rated show on Complex. Gil, I got some big news to break on this show. Complex named their top 25 most entertaining sports media personalities
Starting point is 00:05:25 they put you at number seven who's it who's in front of me so number six Cam and Mace so both of them both also they okay so they need a group. Okay, got it. Number five, Shaq. What? Shaquille O'Neal. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Number four, Pat McAfee. Okay. Number three is Barkley. Okay. Number two, Stephen A. Smith. Okay. Number one, Shana Sharpe. I can't even complain.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I can't even complain. Okay, that means skip behind me. That means skip behind me. That means skip behind me! Skip in the back! Skeletor. Skip in the back! Skeletor, Bayless. Seventy... There's a lot of players behind...
Starting point is 00:06:16 I know, there's a lot! Mention them two then! Everybody behind me! But I'm thinking about like vets in the game. Like I'm thinking about all the vets in the game like they okay It's all ass out the way skip was 11th watch out. Oh, so it's 70 let open all day. That's all a nigga Roman Saul so here's what we got cooking in the arena today Lakers won the first and hardest NBA Cup in League history But how does this But how does this affect... Champions!
Starting point is 00:06:46 But how does this affect LeBron and AD's legacy? Tyrese Halliburton is a burgeoning... Somebody hot! Somebody over there hot! Champions! Somebody over there smoking! They said we couldn't do it. Champions again.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Tyrese Halliburton is a burgeoning superstar, but what statement did he make in the in-season tournament? And according to reports, the Pelicans have repeatedly told Zion Williamson his diet and conditioning need to improve, but he isn't listening. You know where he would listen? Los Angeles, California.
Starting point is 00:07:22 We'll get you at Simply Wholesome, Zion. Get you in that purple with gold. Continue LeBron's legacy rolling. But before we get into all that, as always, this show is brought to you by Underdog Fantasy. If you have not done so, download the app. Use promo code GIL. They will match your first deposit up to $100.
Starting point is 00:07:37 You heard that right. They will match your first deposit up to $100. If you download the Underdog Fantasy app, use promo code GIL. We are the plug. Listen, help us out. Y'all been doing a good job downloading. We need more work, though. Hey the Underdog Fantasy app, use promo code Gil. We are the plug. Listen, help us out. Y'all been doing a good job downloading. We need more work, though.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Hey, Underdog. Us and Cam, we the Underdogs, right? We top six and seven. We need raises. We need raises. I mean, what? Inshallah. Inshallah.
Starting point is 00:08:03 You feel me? That's obvious. That's obvious. That's obvious. I want to negotiate again. Come on, man. Rip it up, man. 1-1-24. 1-1-24.
Starting point is 00:08:11 We all need a check. We all need a check. Oh, man. Because, dude, when you rip it up, that means they rip mine up by extension. God bless you. Man. Tim, if you're watching, you already know what time it is. Expect your phone to be ringing about 2-15 Pacific.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Tim and Maze, keep doing your thing, too, niggas. Y'all ready as a bar for us. Keep going, keep going. We all vipping each other. I told him I'm going to be right behind. He just got to bust open them doors, baby. And as always, we do Mostly Fans at the end of every show. If you drop a good question with your Underdog Fantasy username
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Starting point is 00:08:52 We got to extend that music because I'll be feeling like it'd take me a while to get the sexy voice going. But if... They're fucking up in the back. Nah. Never.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Quality crew. And if you can't watch this live show with us on YouTube, we got audio versions available on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your audio podcast from. So, Gil, we've been telling people all week, or for the past few weeks,
Starting point is 00:09:13 but this week is the week, this Saturday, Gil's Arena Shootout Open Trials. We're launching our first Gil's Arena Shootout presented by Underdog Fantasy. You can sign up on the Discord, as always. We are selecting two winners to pull up. Or you can pull up to our open tryout this Saturday, December 16th, 9 a.m. The District Court in Chatsworth, California,
Starting point is 00:09:33 where the top 16 finishers will qualify for the Gills Arena shootout or January 20th, 2024. Y'all going? Y'all pulling up? Yeah, pulling up. I think we're contract contract the obligated to be To be there if we want our check. I mean I'm going because I'm I'm you know what I'm coming for Saturday I'm gonna start it early. Yeah, I was supposed to be auditioning for the work But I mean I could push it to the work Had a work audition for
Starting point is 00:10:01 Thought we had to be there. I thought we had to be there, be there. Saturday morning? Saturday morning. Saturday morning. That's the best time. Y'all business get off work early. Be there. I'm going to be there. Producers, I want to see if you're going to be dunking still out there.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You still got it in you? Yeah, man. You know I'm back working out now. Okay. Back working out. I checked my weight. I'm 175. Wow now. Okay, you are back working out. I check my weight I'm 175 Wow, damn That's my weight, that's my weight for me. Wait, wait, hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:31 That's a chicken feather, that's a chicken feather. You a chicken feather. Yeah, I weigh 175 and all I do is smoke and drink Hold on right quick. Hold on before how much you weight? 175. This your playing weight? Yeah. In the NBA? Mm-hmm How much you weight? 175. This your playing weight? Yeah. In the NBA? Mm-hmm. 170. 175. I was moving so fast. So what was you in high school?
Starting point is 00:10:51 Oh. 165, 165. Shit. Oh, we going back to this? You just going to stop me? Oh my God. I already know. I already know.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Buck 60. Buck 60. But I was lifting that old kill, so no. It don't matter. You was lifting that old kill. You was lifting that old kill. You was lifting that old kill. You was lifting that old kill. You was lifting that old kill so Bullying basketball you don't even want to hear what dirt said your. You don't even want to hear what Darts said. What did Darts say?
Starting point is 00:11:27 He said, hell no, he won't guard you and you will lock him up. Darts didn't say that. Darts didn't say that. Darts didn't say that. Don't go to the phone. Gil's 6'4". I'm the coldest high school player out of L.A. Darts has ever seen.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Don't ask Darts that. I'm the coldest high school player out of L.A. I live in the valley, though, so it don't really matter. L.A. County, Gil. L.A. County. I'm better coldest high school player out of LA that Dart has ever seen. I was not, I live in the valley. Don't ask Dart that. I'm the coldest high school player out of LA that Dart has ever seen. I live in the valley though, so it don't really matter. LA County, Gil. LA County. I'm better than Baron. That's cool. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:11:51 You know what I'm gonna do. Baron Davis, Baron Davis, if you're watching this show, pull up to the arena. Baron's my man. Baron's my man. And support or refute those claims. Dart trippin'. Damn. Ah!
Starting point is 00:11:59 That nigga Gil threw the red flag. Reflame. Reflame. Reflame. Reflame. Reflame. Reflame. Reflame. Reflame. Reflame. That nigga give him through the red flag. Replay. Replay.
Starting point is 00:12:09 He said it. He said it. He said it. That's nasty. That's nasty. That's nasty. That's nasty. That's nasty.
Starting point is 00:12:17 That's nasty. I was a demon. That's nasty. I'm trying to tell you, man. I'm trying to tell you. I was like him. You want to play a game? You want to play a game? Hey,
Starting point is 00:12:26 dark. The competition was so weak in LA. I had to go to Virginia and play. That's how nice I was. I'm the only player from LA to leave Dominguez. Who does that? Who does that? Easy over there. I got balls. Y'all have black people on y, yeah. I was in. You know how hard it was to leave. What that mean? What that mean? What that mean? That mean I was a sinner? I was like, what chain, bro?
Starting point is 00:12:57 We seen the clip. We seen the clip. The nigga would not take the ball out. He's like, I'm not taking that goddamn ball out. I believe that. I would take the fucking ball out. Take the ball out. The 90s, bro. I believe that. The ball I'm not taking that Believe that it was one black person per team To import it I got army Lopez I got
Starting point is 00:13:25 Armand Was speaking of the tour as one of my teeth I got Armin Lopez. I got Armando. Well, speaking of high school, you guys are going nuts after a video drop of you at your son Elijah's basketball game this weekend. We got you in the crowd. Toes out. With the toes out? You had to zoom in on them sandals. They were down about 21 until I got in the building. It was at halftime, I was down 21. And I had to get them boys ready.
Starting point is 00:14:04 What was he doing? Huhftime was down 21 and I had to get them boys really doing huh what was he doing do when I got there before you got there what was he doing there's probably some trash he finished for 40 damn that's it I mean they're down 21 it was down don't know where when you come that's what I'm saying like when you can you come in it's like damn dad will you Damn dad, where you fucking been at? Soon as I see the score, oh hell no! Oh yeah, yeah, I was like where the fuck dad been at? I'm the mascot, baby! I'm the mascot, baby! He cussing your ass out in the first half. I ain't even fucking hear yet.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I start the student section. Rep, hey look, Rep tried to kick me out. They be trying to kick me out. Because you get it too hype? Yeah, yeah. I got signs coming, ref, you suck. Oh, all that. How they do it in college, that's how I'm doing it at the high school level, baby. Yup, yup.
Starting point is 00:14:50 They only held them to 40, Gil? Locked up. Locked up. But they won, right? Huh? Came back and won? They came back and won. Won by 12.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah, that's it. Gil, how often do you wear sandals in public like that? Every day. They feel so good. You look like you was walking soft. Huh? You look like you was trying to avoid. Oh, yeah. I can't stomp too hard in the Santa's Hermione.
Starting point is 00:15:14 No pushing up the top. Boy, you got to get them fingers. They were smelling defeat in the air. No, what I'm saying is, you know, like NBA players, we usually have black toes, so I don't have black toes. I don't know what we, I don't know what we, you talk about. You know, that stop and go, you know, kind of message.
Starting point is 00:15:27 So the fact that I don't have that, I'm frightened. Them, them. Let them out. Them. I told you I wear them. Let the grippers out. I go on a date with my sandals. For sure.
Starting point is 00:15:40 What the fuck my shoes got to do with this bill? Just don't. You want the bill, right? Hey. You won't know, boo, how I get in there. Just don't you want to be all right? You won't know boo you how I get in there Just don't come around homies with tomorrow. Yeah, I'm what the mother said what the same with the book keep them I'm coming Jay had them on well. Come on. I'm all around the home is not maturity. Hey listen It's called mature around the homies. It's called maturity. You take your ass back to put them socks on my nigga
Starting point is 00:16:01 No, well, what the thongs whatever to do, just put your toes up. What, I'm a samurai? That's not what I'm talking about. Put your toes up. Put your toes up. That's like, put your skirt down, put your toes up, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:16:11 It's the same shit. Put your skirt down, B. Put your toes up. We're going to stay in the high school realm as much as underdog don't like it. We're not showing no high school footage
Starting point is 00:16:19 and you can't do shit about it. Dylan Harper, one of the most prized recruits of the class of 2024. In an hour before he was about to announce his college decision, Welch announced it for him. Breaking the news that Harper was going to Rutgers. Who goes to Rutgers? Shit.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Yeah. Piscataway? I ain't moving to Piscataway. The fact that it says Harper is making public that decision. I mean. He don't need you now. Right. You already did it.
Starting point is 00:16:53 So Harper is the son of NBA legend Ron Hollywood Harper of Clippers and Bulls fame. And let's just say Dylan's daddy wasn't feeling Woj spoiling his son's big moment. That was some BS that you pulled today, Woj. I will catch up with you one day, I promise. Well, I haven't seen that. Damn. You know he was hot because he didn't even put a space between one and day. Hey, don't.
Starting point is 00:17:16 Don't. Don't. All right. Let it go. Let it go. So should Woj be blamed for the leak, or is this a problem with Dylan Harper's circle? That's the circle's fault. Like who called Woj and told them?
Starting point is 00:17:30 The university. Oh, the university? Yeah, that's the university leak. Then why would you, if you were to recruit, why would you tell the university? Yeah. No, because you already decided. You're just going to make the announcements public whenever you want to. So instead of university,
Starting point is 00:17:48 the insider man went and said, hey, Walsh, he's going to come. He's going to come to us. And Walsh having that platform. He's going to do it right away. He can't wait. Yeah, so they'd rather it come from him. Yep.
Starting point is 00:17:58 But that's the problem. I mean, to be honest, it's... I mean, you're the number one point guard in the country my combo guard, whatever I think you earned a right to you know, that's your make your now. Yes. Yeah, I we get that but to like Woes doing it was bigger than what she was gonna do anyway to be I mean, I'm just gonna be honest I unless you could do it at the same time, like, it's a joint thing, but... Just do it at Woe's house. Like you say, it is, because he's a bigger voice.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Or just have Woe's there. Ron Harper vs. Woe's, though. This is what I ask, like, why is the father mad? What did you lose? It's not like this was money involved you don't lose nothing right no matter who says it that's where he's going you don't lose the moment you lose a moment yeah if you think about it you go back all the number one prospects make that announcement and how do we all look forward I look forward to that I never had that opportunity to do that but I
Starting point is 00:19:04 look forward to that in high school like I can't wait to sit there and be like, yeah, I'm going to this school Hey, all right. Let me ask you this. Do you know where the last three? Number one picks went to school when they announced in high school high school number one. Yeah. No, I don't Haven't done so like I haven't done I know this is what we're doing. This is like it's actually better Because even even if the kid does do it does his own like, you know It's a his signing day and we ain't gonna really see it unless it's like it's like on a tickle ESPN or something Okay, so you're always doing is like way bigger What's funny is like that?
Starting point is 00:19:38 Now moving forward. That's what you should do. Mm-hmm Team up with a celebrity guy to help you announce what I mean, that's what you should do. Team up with a celebrity guy to help you announce it. I mean, that's been going down. You know what I mean? Like something on ESPN, what is it? With high school ESPN, Sam. Now, this is the funny part about it. Something that is becoming so
Starting point is 00:19:57 regular, when Mr. James did it, it was found upon. Now, it's the thing to do. Everybody wants to say where they're going for that. Yeah, but LeBron did it in the league, though, playing with the Cavs. High school kids have been doing the hats. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:20:17 This has been a thing. Kobe did it. 96, I think that was one of the times. Take my talent. Yeah, take my talent this way. I mean, I think that's where it became that, especially in football, how they do it in football, where they're like trying to hide the hat and put it on.
Starting point is 00:20:32 It's a tradition. Since when? Probably since Dion and them was coming out, Michael Irvin and them. But it wasn't as publicized. Like you said, it's not catching the wind, so we don't see it as something that should be done every time.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Well, kids got the videos nowadays that they release with the different brands and the highly edited pieces. Listen, Ron Harper, I know you're mad. What you could do
Starting point is 00:20:56 is, look, take it back, right? Decommit. Decommit, right? And then, like, a month from later, later recommit back now you did it first Commit from Rutgers and then now have your decision and then like if it's Rutgers will be surprised. Oh shit We didn't know this was gonna happen. He's going back I mean Rutgers they need that so you don't think he should be mad
Starting point is 00:21:26 As a father yes, yes, that's what I wanted. I want to put it in your hands as a father Yes, you're mad because you know, this was probably planned you do I mean, you know But I wouldn't take it personal like I'll see you when I see you for what doing this job No, you gonna beat up. You're gonna be on my ass cuz I Got you followers. What if that has something to do with the bread that's coming along with the NIL, though? What if Woj is fucking up a bidding war between two universities that want his son? Yeah. And then he break the news and then fuck up the bag.
Starting point is 00:21:59 The hour before? Yeah. No, not at all. It's like the draft now. If you think about it, college has become like the NBA draft. We don't know where these kids is going until they go. But he already told, but that's what I'm saying, he already probably, you already told Rutgers that he was coming.
Starting point is 00:22:12 But think about it. Elijah, with class of 2026, you'd be salty if somebody broke the news, right? Y'all had a game plan, like the game plans you'd be having negotiation-wise, like nah, we gonna do it like this and then my fuck come in And say some dumb shit fuck up your plan. You gonna be pissed. No, I mean as a father you'd be pissed, but I mean What was putting it out millions seen it yeah, well if young fella did it a couple thousand couple hundred thousand maybe so well Good you about to be pissed right now cuz I got some breaking news Elijah reading this class of 2026 is committing to UCLA No take back
Starting point is 00:22:55 Bear down Better not go to no damn half bear down better not go to the damn. Oh damn college. I forgot, we got a lot of Arizonians. But no, on serious note, speaking of breaking news, I know you don't give a shit about baseball, but you love money, right?
Starting point is 00:23:12 So big news coming from the MLB this weekend. Japanese superstar Shohei Otani did from the Angels the sign with the Dodgers for the 10-year,
Starting point is 00:23:19 $700 million deal. Richest contract in team sports history. Wait. $700 million deal, richest contract in team sports history. Wait. I'm just saying, he had the old Swiss Rudy, how he could just go to the enemies? Anaheim to LA, you're not making that move? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:23:41 He wanted to be somewhere that had fine Japanese cuisine, not really getting that in Anaheim. Getting that in Los Angeles. Got no boo. Sushi Roku. Yeah. Sugarfish. I mean, you got it.
Starting point is 00:23:52 They can match that? They can. I mean, it's the richest deal. I don't know if the Hatties are quite that thick, but. It's only like three teams that can match that shit. Yeah. Yankees. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:24:04 But I think the Rangers maybe. He coming to L.A. Shout out, Shohei. Pull up to the show. I'm not a Dodgers fan, but... 70 million. I don't know why I'm not. 70 million a year.
Starting point is 00:24:14 70 mil. The great thing about baseball, they can do their own contracts. Like, they can set their own contracts. Do I need my knees to play baseball? No, no, no, no, Gil. Don't allow them numbers. This nigga is like LeBron and Kobe of the baseball.
Starting point is 00:24:31 I don't give a fuck about all that, man. That's why he getting what he getting. Bro, I don't care about none of that, bro. I just care I can hit the fuck out that ball. Not with that. Not with that. Not with that form. Not with that form.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Hey, man, he crazy as hell, man. I've had it for 10 years. for a minute crazy. Oh, yeah 100 for 10 years my knees man. You do need to know I don't you got a run to the base You got a vision They have the um, you got at least run the first gotta run to the person You talk about t-ball bro. You talk about team. I did somebody run for me. Yeah, it's t-ball. He's too low for t-ball 162 game a year. You're right. There's always a little big kid who can't run.
Starting point is 00:25:07 There's some little fast ones. Go. Would you rather have Otani 700 mil, 162 games a year, or Pat Mahomes 450 for 17 games a year, but dude's trying to end your life every game? Wait, what's that? Baseball, because I can do my contract the way I want. So whatever I want in my contract, I guarantee. Baseball, no, no. Baseball, because I can do my contract the way I want. So whatever I want in my contract...
Starting point is 00:25:26 Baseball is guaranteed. Baseball is guaranteed. Yeah, baseball is like basketball, guaranteed. Yeah, I'm taking baseball. Baseball. But also the contract, though. You can set up your contract. Yo, so I want this Malibu house.
Starting point is 00:25:37 In my contract. Buy it. Yo, I want, what? Two Maybachs. Three million miles and flying, private. You can do that in basketball. No, you can't. No, youbachs. Three million, what, miles in flying, private. You can do that in basketball. No, you can't. No, you can't.
Starting point is 00:25:48 You can't do all that. You can't tell. You can do what? You can tell me, yo, I want this house in Malibu. No, you can't. Part of my contract. Oh, my golden state deal when I was coming back here. $5 million house and a helicopter.
Starting point is 00:26:03 In my contract. In my contract. In my contract. Because my max was 126, 126 million. They can only offer me one-on-one. So five years one-on-one or six years, 126 from Washington. So it was like, well, we can't give you all this years, but we can give you shit So we got your five million dollar house. We got it. We got helicopters whatever cars you want They make up that twenty six million dollars. Yeah BJ. That's it was
Starting point is 00:26:35 We're gonna make it up though. See that was it was to make it up Was that technically but it's always like that no matter what you say is to make up Some Google stock so they can they can put that shit in because because at the end of the day it's still your money right so it's like 126 or one-on-one with 25 million dollars worth of bullshit yeah like nah give me the money I'll buy what I want to buy yeah but it could be like, I mean, if it's like that, then I'll just buy a house where I know I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:27:08 at the end of my career. No, but they'll buy it for you. I know, that's what I'm saying. But it's the same thing. It's the same money. It's yours. Right, that's what I'm saying. I mean, I guess, yeah, whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:22 You know what I mean? It's the same thing. I mean, so let's keep this thing moving. We're I mean? It's the same Dean. Yeah. I mean. So let's keep this thing moving. We're going to talk LeBron and the Lakers shortly. Woo! But first, we've got to talk about Bronny. After suffering a cardiac arrest this summer, Bronny made his debut with USA, with USC,
Starting point is 00:27:39 excuse me, the other school in town, also known as Suck, to some. Wow. And gave us a boy-you-look-just-like-your-daddy moment. Oh. Bronny, with the chase-down block. Just like his pops. And gave us a boy you look just like your daddy moment. LeBron with the chase down block. Just like his pops. With LeBron in the building. LeBron finished the game with four points, three rebounds, two assists.
Starting point is 00:27:58 But Long Beach State got the win after USC tricked it off in overtime. After the game, LeBron posted a heartfelt message to LeBron to celebrate the occasion. He said, can't even tell you how emotional today was for me. I'm literally drained and all I can say is, Bronny, you're simply incredible. Damn the wins and losses that will occur. You've already won the ultimate gold championship and that's life. Proud of you, kid. And today, you've given me more life.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Thank you and I love you. Bron. Bron Tavius. So, thoughts on Bronny making his debut at USC with all the things that he's dealt with to get to this point? I mean that's amazing because I mean for the most part we didn't think he was going to play this year. So the fact that he came back, came back healthy and went out there and you know and competed, you know that's all that really matters you it's you know Shaq's son went through the same thing so you know when they get to come back and really just keep you know like finishing the
Starting point is 00:28:52 dream that they have is always amazing. Ray what you think about Bronny's debut? Oh yeah just like Gil said man just being able to be out there playing in front of his you, his friends. Like Bron said, he's already won and that's the game of life. That's the most important thing as a father. His support and what he installs into his kid. It's special.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Special to see a kid like that with all the expectation that he's going to have, that he's looking forward to, to bounce back and step into the light the way he did. And he looked fearless. It's a lot that he's going to be going through in the next 10 years of his life to fill shoes that are going to be damn near impossible. But to see that he's still at it, overcoming at a level now where the hard thing is not something to play around with. So him overcoming that stage says a lot about his character, his personality, who he is. So it's just the next step for him. I think we've all been watching him in this stage for a while and trying to see where he fits with his dad's legacy. So now we get
Starting point is 00:30:02 to see him on the court now, first time, college. good feeling so yeah all praise to him so LeBron year 21 obviously he's made it no secret that he wants to play with Bronny at some point do we think we were gonna see that that moment where father son get out there in the court yeah LeBron don't look like he's slowing down anytime soon you know he might mess around with both his sons But I can tell you right now, Thanksgiving dinner next year, Christmas end of this year, when
Starting point is 00:30:31 the Jameses have that debate, Junior, just be like, I'm a better college player than you, and then walk out. Yep. Turn this shit and get the fuck out of there. Already more points than Ron. I'm a better college player than you, and then get out. You this shit and get the fuck out of there. Already more points
Starting point is 00:30:45 than Ron's points. I'm a better college player than you and didn't get out. Ever be. You'll ever be. You'll ever be. You'll never be better
Starting point is 00:30:50 than me. You got shit to say that slammed boom. Hey, win that argument. I'm out of here. Point at the SC jersey. I got one. I got one.
Starting point is 00:30:57 You ain't got one. Let's talk a little bit about Pops. Lakers made history Saturday night overcoming the odds to win the first and hardest NBA Cup in league history.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Let's take a look at some of those highlights. Shout out Juju, too, man. Yeah, shout out Juju. Juju, she be hooping. So Anthony Davis was in beast mode. Dropped 41-20 rebounds, five assists, four blocks. So he joined AD, joined Elgin Baylor. Wood is the only Lakers with a 40-20-5 game in franchise history.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Bronley continues year 21 dominance. 24-11 and 4 dimes. Securing the first NBA Cup MVP for his output across those 7 games. 5-time champ, 5-time MVP in championship games. And Lemon Daddy Austin Reeves had his version of the flu game. Putting up 28 points off the bench. You see it. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:31:52 Hey, the Bandits! That's what I'm talking about. Everybody that was doubting AD on this couch. Yeah, now what? I know. Yeah, now what? Now, 40 and 20, right? No, you what? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Don't do that. No, you was not rolling with AD. I was rolling with AD. You was not rolling with AD. It was like little brother, big brother thing. I was the only one up here riding for AD. You're going to be the only motherfucker up here riding with AD. So like you mentioned, some of us are being critical.
Starting point is 00:32:21 You're going to be the only motherfucker pushing this motherfucker when you get down the street. You'll be like, yeah, this is good. And then you need a fucking lemon daddy. You're supposed to be getting this lemon off the goddamn road. Yo, what was his numbers? Go ahead. So some of us have been critical of AD on this show, but we got to talk about it. When you say some, you mean you?
Starting point is 00:32:42 No, I'm an AD supporter day one. Me too. So who? Oh, just you. Just me. one me too So oh did you just mean okay? It means okay? Just make it sure let's get into it so I can get into okay Let's talk about the season 80s average play a game 24 13 3 assists 2.8 blocks in 23 games this season Which includes his NBA Cubs stat line which technically doesn't count towards its official season stats, but it's real to us damn it 80s also only missed one game so far this season So, you know
Starting point is 00:33:13 Well, this is a statement game for Anthony Davis. Yeah Yeah, all that shit. Yeah, I was talking. What statement did he make? What statement did he fucking make? He made that? I'm a dog. I'm a dog. Just relax. Like I'm a dog. Which kind of dog? The Taco Bell dog? Nah, the Top Kyle Doverman one. Okay. You know how hostile that is.
Starting point is 00:33:32 We ain't seen motherfucking freedom since. See what happens? We gave freedom some money and got a big bowl. He got him a big bowl and that nigga don't even come around no more. Eating steak and shit. He's got bitches. Tuna and shit? What is he doing?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Freedom? 40 and 20. 40 and 20. Listen, all right, let me run it down for you motherfuckers so y'all don't want to pay attention to it. Okay, first game, Utah Jazz. Second game, Portland Trailblazers. Quality NBA team. Third game, Memphis Grizzlies.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Quality NBA teams. Fourth game, Phoenix Suns. Man, we squeezed out. We squeezed the juice out of that motherfucker. Then you had the New Orleans Pelicans? I think Suns again. Then the Pacers. Right? Right.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I mean, NBA teams. Right, all NBA teams, I mean right NBA teams right all NBA teams Okay around this shit right it's not impressive, but you know we'll give it to you cuz you got it You got it done boom boom boom, but all this Magical he wanted to play honest, but he didn't want to do none of that I make it anyone do none of that Boston didn't make anyone do none of that. They didn't make it. He didn't want to do none of that. Boston didn't make it. He didn't want to do none of that. Your team didn't make it. So if you don't keep the same energy, the rest of the... Give me these next 10 games. I need to see the same energy.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Ain't nothing changed. You won. Now let's keep this 10-game energy. Okay. Let me get that. Because I need... If I see a fall-off... What's a fall-off?
Starting point is 00:35:00 Huh? 16 and 12. Huh? Ron, you can average 29, 30 a game every single game from this point forward. And it shouldn't be an excuse why you shouldn't. End season, this is why I said it was important from the beginning. Show everybody that you care about fucking winning early. So the end season tournament is important? Absolutely, because it gets niggas to go like they was going. So who won?
Starting point is 00:35:26 30 teams could have won. Who won what? The end-season tournament. 30 teams could have. Is that a rhetorical question? You know what rhetorical questions are? So your team didn't come to play this year? Not yet.
Starting point is 00:35:35 What happened? They're getting together. Okay. You know, like the Bucks getting together and the Suns and, you know, all that shit y'all saying, get together. Get it together. Not us. We're trying to get it together.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I don't count the end season for nothing. I don't care. It's just another game. I mean. Like, you know, we just waiting till the end anyway. Okay. But I do love what AD did. Okay, so basically you're saying the Lakers did a bunch of shit.
Starting point is 00:35:54 AD two-time champion now. They should have done against teams that were not really good. Whoa. No, no, no, no, no. That's not what you're saying? No, no, no, no, no. Don't do that. There's 30 teams.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I'm just asking. No, I'm not saying that. You didn't tell us what we did. I'm just asking. I'm not saying that. Because if You can't tell us what we did. I'm just asking. I'm not saying that. Because if it wasn't on in-season tournament, it was like, oh, y'all played against these niggas. No. Same thing.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Y'all played against these niggas. I'm just asking. Like, y'all played against these niggas. Y'all supposed to win them games, right? Yeah, same as Boston. Well, we lost those games. I know y'all lost them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Because y'all didn't care. Y'all didn't play hard enough. What was it? You know, it's just single eliminations. You show up. Win or go home. Win or go home. So basically, the only team that showed up is the level the bubble boys the Lakers
Starting point is 00:36:30 the hardest chip in NBA history hardest Go The game early I bet on the game early because I knew that the game was gonna go anyway you pick them Okay, he's a patient you Okay. He picked Pacers. You did. He lost his money. I didn't do no illegal shit, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:36:49 to favor the Lakers or nothing like that, but I'm just saying. What you saying? I'm just saying, because I remember. I'm just saying that if you bet with the Lakers, it's a good chance. We don't bet at Underdog Fantasy. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:37:05 We did do pick-ups. We did do pick-ups. I remember Thursday. I remember Washington and you know what I'm saying. No, because I remember Thursday, it was Pelicans and Pacers. Right? No. No, it was.
Starting point is 00:37:16 That's before I found out who was doing, you know. The pick-ups? Yeah. Pick-ups on games and shit. You know what I'm saying? For Underdog Fantasy. You got inside information, man. Who had inside?
Starting point is 00:37:26 Yeah, it was Lakers, Pelicans, and it was... Because I know I said, I know I... whatever I said happened. That's all I remember. Exactly how I said it, it happened exactly how I said it. So let's... The MVP. LeBron Ray... Champs.
Starting point is 00:37:43 We're going to talk about the MVP in a second, but... Champs. Champ... Gil, you're telling talk about the MVP in a second, but champs champ you're not you telling the truth champ An NBA championship was had the wrong You know, we know we heard look, you know, LeBron James, that's what we said if they would have got the Pelicans You might have been correct Would they be the pack about like 40 all it is? Listen the ace the end season is just it's just a trophy for winning yet division Like remember you should win your division back in the day?
Starting point is 00:38:06 Is this still LeBron's team, though? I mean. For sure. Yeah. So y'all keys still? NBA Cup, MVP. Who got that MVP? Of course.
Starting point is 00:38:13 LeBron James. Yeah. Yeah, it's still his team. So we can't talk about them keys no more. Jingling them keys. No, no, no. Take the keys, AD. No, AD had his own keys.
Starting point is 00:38:23 You don't get 40. No, no, no. He had his own keys. You don't get funny Last game to what keys does a ad need cuz I look fine to me I know he live with us and then he has his own key. So he needs LeBron He may I just give me a little copy. He made his own keys got in this car Hey, D. Keep going to be that key went in for you Whatever he got went in but but I'm going I'm the ad this is the problem though This is the this is the problem, though.
Starting point is 00:38:50 This is why we on your ass, though, is because we see, we know who you're supposed to be. Right? 40 and 20, we know that's you. Right? So when you ain't playing to what we see you play to, that's why we go at you. Like, no one can stop him when he's at this point. But what they did last game is they actually force fed him. So, but let's talk AD a little bit.
Starting point is 00:39:13 You know, he's been the subject of discussion on this show many times. What's the Lakers' ceiling when AD is healthy and playing at this level? If he's playing like that, even if he's at 30 and 15, we champs. The team's got to be sorry as hell like they was. Champs. They got to be sorry as hell like they was. They got to be trash. Them niggas is all at their worst, man.
Starting point is 00:39:35 We wanted the stuff. We wanted the bucks. We're not fucking around with this shit, man. This nigga got to do this shit against top-notch niggas, bro. What's top-notch? You know what top-notch is. Name them. Joker. One. That's top-notch know what top notch is. Name them. Joker. One.
Starting point is 00:39:46 That's top notch. Next. That's the only top notch I need to say. So. 40, 40, and 40 on that nigga. So you saying he has to be. You mean he gotta. 40, 40, and 40.
Starting point is 00:39:56 So it's one dude. No, it's not. You know it's not one dude. You mean he gotta win four times. You just gotta play better against better competition, my nigga. That's it. So basically... Miles Turner didn't have it in his eyes to match up against him today.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Let me ask you this. The Pelicans. Who was on the... Valachunas? Let me ask you a question. Come on, man. That's AD. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Where do you rank AD in centers? Fifth. Who's three and four? What you mean? Who's three and four? Wait, wait. Who's three and four? AD is fifth? One, two, three.
Starting point is 00:40:27 No, Joker and B. Now, who is third? Who's left, Gil? No one. That's what I'm trying to figure out. Who's third? Okay, so you're going to say Giannis is a small four. Yeah, Giannis is a power four.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Lopez is a five. Lopez. Yeah. You got Bam as a five. Yeah. So, B, Joker. That's it. That, yeah. So Embiid, Joker. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:40:48 So he's third. So if he loses the matchup against them two, he's still, like, what's the problem? He AD. What I'm saying, what's the problem? I thought that was the problem. No, what I'm saying is if he loses the matchups to those two players, he's still the third best center in the league. We cool with that.
Starting point is 00:41:07 All right. That's cool. Right? That's cool. That's LeBron James. I mean, you got, I mean, yeah. So we've talked about taking the keys and embracing that role. Paul George got blasted a while ago for saying that he understands
Starting point is 00:41:19 he needs to be a number two to be successful. Should we give AD that same courtesy? Maybe he don't want to be the guy. Maybe he embraces that role of being number two to be successful. Should we give AD that same courtesy? Maybe he don't want to be the guy. Maybe he embraces that role of being number two to LeBron and how that can elevate his career. Fuck no. And should he get knocked for that? The difference is, one is 38.
Starting point is 00:41:35 You can't... But it's LeBron. I know, but that's the only problem that we're having as LA fans. We want LeBron James for three, four more years, and we shouldn't be relying on the 38, 39-year-old himself. So the young boy needs to hold the team on his shoulders.
Starting point is 00:41:54 We talked about that, but last season when LeBron got hurt, AD helped carry that torch and get the bread in his mouth. He needs to do it now. But that's what I'm saying. He needs to do it now. He can't. LeBron's on the team. He can't.
Starting point is 00:42:03 As long as LeBron's on the team, he will not be able to do it. It on the back. He will not be in the room. You gotta be well, but you can say that Oh, you got a fanboy sit in it's the fanboy It ain't no fanboy. It's just more of like it's a more respect and it's just more like well shit It's broad like you got what Kyrie be doing if he was here What you mean? Well, he will Kyrie be doing if you see maybe them three So baby, he'll be playing back basketball. He three? Instead of AD. He'll be playing basketball. He'll be getting in the shit. He'll be averaging more than AD.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Nah, because it's the same situation with Luka. No, no. What's the difference between Luka and LeBron? What is Kyrie averaging with Luka? Don't know. 2020? Like 2019? 2019.
Starting point is 00:42:41 No, hell no, hell no. 19, 20 a game. 23. 23. Hell no. 2020 again. 23. 23. Same thing. But what I'm saying is he's... When he's ready to take over, he takes over. He doesn't look for LeBron.
Starting point is 00:42:53 When Anthony Davis needs to take over, he needs to just take over. LeBron and Lemon Daddy both had 20-something, right? And AD had 40. What stops you from doing it every game LeBron would LeBron will get his points. We're gonna go to you. We're gonna force-feed you do you you said what's stopping him? I'm doing it. Yeah competition from the other team. Nah, there's only two other players. I can stop In yoke yoke is can't stop him. Well, wait. Hold on. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. When we said AD, I mean, Jokic and Embiid, they can't stop him on offense.
Starting point is 00:43:33 Either. Well, I just thought about that. So it's not like those two guys got great defense to stop him from being third. No. You just now thought about that. Team matchup. Team matchup. AD versus Embiid. Embiid leads the match-up 7-1.
Starting point is 00:43:46 I don't care about the record. AD versus Joker, 16-14, 5-4. Wait, what? Say it again. AD versus Joker. Joker leads at 16-14 in 30 games. Joker's 5-4 playoff advantage with that sleep. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:44:00 You're talking record? Points. Give me points. Okay. What do they average against each other? So Embi beat averages 25 11 45 25 points in this career matchup. Okay, so I'm 11 rebounds forces He's just pushing in his way like you can't how do you do that?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Oh, no, you say you like yeah, so he's locking him up. What the fuck are you talking about? If he averages 32 to 31 for the last couple years and he's averaging 25... This is their career meeting. He's locking his ass up. Career meeting. What is AD? 23, 12, 2 assists. That means he's getting his ass smoked.
Starting point is 00:44:39 No. By your logic, Gilbert, he's getting smoked. 25 to 23, Gilbert, he's getting smoked. I mean, honestly, they're just eating each other out. 25 to 23. Smoke, he's smoking at me. AD's never averaged 31 a game. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:44:52 What's the other numbers? So that means he's down six points versus AD down two points. He gets smoked every time they play. No, they're eating each other out. He gets smoked. So AD versus Joker, career is his career. AD's averaging 26, nine rebounds 3 assists 2 blocks Joker's average of 21
Starting point is 00:45:08 10 rebounds 6 assists, but that of that on that on me, but Like that you said Joker don't average that much. He only averages about that mean the ad be kicking his ass Oh, you're not even looking at it If one average is 23 for the season in the matchup. He's on average of 21 That's minus those are not season numbers But if it's if he averages 23 for the season that means again CBS average of 21. That's two minus points That's it. I get that so in bead averages 31 32 for a season. That means that's six minus points That's career. This is career. Don't guess. I don't fuck what I'm selling you young you have to give a fuck
Starting point is 00:45:44 You can't That's Chris's career. I'll guess I'm telling you young With this number actually it makes sense for what you're talking about three bigs. It's kind of like you can juggle it You have to yes, too Okay He wanted to go to team way was your and what's your name is seven and one about no team Talk about I'm trying to pass you the ball on the side. I already know y'all niggas got a separate group. This nigga talk about separate groups. This fat ass nigga don't even want to come over here. I mean, you be like, let me just pass it to you. I'm like, nigga, I don't even say you fat, nigga. I give you extra time to say shit.
Starting point is 00:46:33 This nigga call you fat, now I'm talking shit. I'm sorry, man. I don't pull up. Nah, you got the crowd. AD averaged 30 points one year. Not last, not when they've been going up against MB. No, MB been averaging 31, not on AD. We're going to the chip.
Starting point is 00:46:48 That's all I hear. Can I get a big-ass hat? Yes. I got you. I got you. It's a big-ass hat for Jay. This is big old cap. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Cap for Zoni. Yeah, y'all take it. Y'all, you know I'm sensitive. AD locking their ass up. That's what he doing. So, ceiling championship with 80 playing at this level Champion we champs baby We champs, baby. I'm gonna ask you a question this I'd have a good chance. What's the name?
Starting point is 00:47:12 Well, this the next three games and tell me what the next three games are we might lose the next My my my So y'all win that tip you the champions, right? Yeah champions. Yes. Yes Yeah, I don't know you're one we two in one at least hey Y'all don't get San Antonio Was still drunk baby we still drove for my chick bitch So I didn't even get y'all real shit They gave y'all Corbeil in there, bitch
Starting point is 00:47:51 Take this Corbeil and get the fuck out of here y'all get the floor. Yeah, we got hurry up LeBron hurry up I was sorry. No only got ten bottles. Hurry up. They get a mix apple cider What you got them goggles on LeBron? jogging They get a mix apple cider What you got them goggles on the Brian? What did y'all get y'all got the watch champs Like yes is always do every team you pick watches shit. Let's talk a little bit about LeBron LeBron Just got swept Talking about he just got sweat. Oh, she just had to watch. What are you talking about? LeBron's foot was messed up. With no wins.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Sweep, sweep, sweep. So LeBron has won nine straight winner-take-all games, averaging 33 points in those games. You try to get critical of what that means, because I didn't know what it meant either. It didn't mean anything. Three in-season tournament games, the quarterfinals, semis, and finals were apparently winner-take-all games. Okay. Game 7
Starting point is 00:48:43 2018 versus Celtics. Game 7, 2018, versus Celtics. Game 7, 2018, first round against the Pacers. Game 7, 2016, versus the Warriors, the hardest championship in NBA history when you overcame a 3-1 deficit. We appreciate you, Draymond. Game 7, 2013, finals versus Spurs. Game 7, 2013, Eastern Conference finals versus the Pacers. And then Game 7, 2012, Eastern Conference finals versus the Celtics and the game saying it's 720 12 Easter conference finest verse the Celtics
Starting point is 00:49:06 But let's talk about LeBron here I'm just good. I'm just saying why the fuck does that always what does that gotta do with him being the best player ever? I mean nice. I don't need all that It supports it though if we were in court Shit It supports it though if we were in court it don't support it do I'm stretching this shit. No, no, no, no, no The reason I said that's because I watched the stats the other day someone talking about like you doing Michael Jordan LeBron, of course Is it? Michael Jordan 38 39 was better than LeBron James at 18-19.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Had his stats. Right? And I'm like, what the fuck does this got to do with basketball? Because LeBron James at 38-39 is better than LeBron James at 18 himself. You got to learn how to push agenda and narratives, all right? That's what I'm saying. Reality is right. Who was better at 18, LeBron James or Jordan?
Starting point is 00:50:02 Obviously LeBron. He was in the NBA. Who was better at 19, LeBron James? 20, LeBron James. Who's better at 38, LeBron James or Jordan obviously LeBron he was in NBA who's the better at 19 LeBron James 20 LeBron James Who's better at 38 LeBron James who's gonna be better at 39 LeBron James? So with that that we don't need to do all that. All right, Ron James best player ever We're pushing agendas. Yeah, what's your reason? You're pushing agendas and narratives like everybody why my joy did you say better than Michael Jordan? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah What's your reason not even why yeah, like give me one reason Did you say better than Michael Jordan? Yeah. Yeah. What's your reason? He's not even...
Starting point is 00:50:25 Why? Yeah, like, give me one reason why he's better than Mike. Like, what puts him over the top over Mike? He'll say a bunch of shit. What's your spilling? Because he did something that wasn't supposed to be done. Right? He wasn't supposed to be the next Michael Jordan or Magic.
Starting point is 00:50:43 And the fact that he was in the conversation, he put so much expectations on him for him to fail, and he didn't. Right? There was, no team is going to win three in a row again, ever. The way the league is built, no. Right? No team is winning three in a row anymore. The way the rules has been changed, the way the rules has been built.
Starting point is 00:51:03 The way Michael Jordan did it, as a player, rules have been built, the way Michael Jordan did it, as an individual player, yes, Michael Jordan looked better. He drove his car better. The swag was better. Yes, we get that. But when you're talking about just statistics itself, as an individual, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:51:22 It's hard. You're talking about a guy who's passed first, scores second, but he's the leader in scoring. The guy who passes first is the leader in scoring, which makes the guy who's only thought about scoring look worse. No, it doesn't. It looks worse.
Starting point is 00:51:38 If your job is, if you were just designed to be a killer, and I'm an assist guy, and I beat your kills, doesn't it make you look bad No, and that's what you're born to do kill Nope, and I got more kills than you somehow you but you don't you don't have your job and I'm okay No, you don't you have you have more assists. Hmm. You have more assists You set us up for more kills, but we're still hiring me to kill people. Who's the leading scorer ever?
Starting point is 00:52:02 Who's the leading scorer ever? That's points. That's the kill. Oscar Schmidt was for a while, wasn't he? Yeah. See how you see how this nigga? You see how this nigga's, you see his logic? He don't even know. He don't even know.
Starting point is 00:52:15 He's sitting around talking about who. Who? Who? Who? Now we don't know. You don't know basketball history now. We don't know. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:52:22 We don't know basketball history now. Somebody take a screen grab. Kobe Bryant. Hold on. Come here. We don't know basketball history now. Oscar who? Oscar Robinson? We don't know basketball history now. Somebody take a screen grab and I'll... Kobe Bryant. Hold on, come here. Kobe Bryant will always be the number one greatest basketball player of all time. No matter how you mix it, match it, shape it, cut it, you can say all these accomplishments because that's what LeBron is, king of accomplishments.
Starting point is 00:52:41 He's the greatest of all accomplishments. Are accomplishments important though? Basketball. Basketball. Five time champion? Basketball. Kobe Bryant. I know what LeBron is, king of accomplishments, he's the greatest of all accomplishments. Are accomplishments important though? Basketball? Five time champion? Basketball? Kobe Bryant, ain't nobody better than Kobe Bryant.
Starting point is 00:52:51 At what? Wait, wait, five time champion. Ain't nobody better than Kobe Bryant. At what NBA championship? Playing basketball. Scoring one on one. Playing the game of basketball. One on one?
Starting point is 00:52:59 We're talking about one on one? I'm saying playing basketball. Basketball player. Five time NBA champion LeBron James? Josiah Stott, bro. No. The NBA Cup's not a championship. Josiah, stop, bro. No. The NBA Cup's not a championship. Josiah, stop.
Starting point is 00:53:08 They gave him a trophy. Josiah, stop. He got to get to 11. LeBron got to get to 11 for his chips to matter. Even with Michael Jordan, right? When people talk about the competition and all this stuff, we can sit there and dissect everyone's era, right? If I said, all right, if Michael Jordan's era was so great, name three point guards in the 80s that had 40-inch verticals and up.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Name three shooting guards that had 40-inch verticals and up. Which means, name me players that can actually compete with someone who had a 46-inch vertical, right? So when he went to drive and jump, who was capable to even challenge it? We know what the NBA looks like now. We know how many players got 40s, shooting guards. Damn near everybody got a 40-inch vertical. The threes, everybody got a 40-inch vertical.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Name two positions. That means there's 30 point guards and 30 shooting guards. How many had 40-inch verticals that was guarding Jordan? Spud Webb. Clyde. Three. Dominique. Small forward.
Starting point is 00:54:19 David Thompson. David Thompson? J.R. Wright. He had a 38. That was in the 90s. Yeah, you see how that? Kobe? 38.
Starting point is 00:54:32 That was in 2000. That was in the 90s. Chad, this is your chance to cook, Gil. He capping. He capping? He's capping so hard. Who's capping? You.
Starting point is 00:54:38 What am I capping about? Which one? They're verticals. Who's verticals? Anybody's name that we're pulling up, you're like, oh, he had a 38. Yeah. Where's the data? You can Google it.
Starting point is 00:54:49 You're just making it up. You're just making it up, Gilbert. You're just making it up as you go. Why are you doing that? Why do you do that? You're like, where did you look up all of these verticals? Show us. Show us where the stats are where these niggas had them verticals.
Starting point is 00:55:08 The vertical test was officially done. Official was 2,000. That was the official from the NBA League. Everything was off official. So Jordan's 46-inch vertical came from the dunk contest when they did the measurements. I'm fucking an encyclopedia. I Google and watch everything. I do data, so I know exactly
Starting point is 00:55:27 who actually was jumping that high because of metric. So I know. It didn't start in 2000. You just said it. 2000, so that means everything dated before that was just off the eye test. So I read all the eye tests.
Starting point is 00:55:40 What the hell does the eye test mean? What does that mean? That means how they get it. Did you predict it based on what you think it is? Name a player who you think had a 40-inch vertical. So we know Dominique had a 44 off the record. Who was jumping that
Starting point is 00:55:56 high as a shooting guard and a point? How do we know that Dominique had a 44? Just think. Sean Kemp. They're saying Clyde had a 43. Sean Kemp had a 43. Who else say Clyde had a for John Kim shot con shotgun better 43 or do I climb? Yeah? Small Shooting guard or point guard Kevin Johnson, maybe the make every Johnson. He was dunking on me. I'm gonna get on in here Don Starks Was he jumping like Jordan or does he jump does he jump like he had a 40?
Starting point is 00:56:24 Nobody like you think about the people who guarded him Was he jumping like Jordan? Does he jump like he had a 40? Nobody jumps like Jordan. Nobody jumps like Jordan. Thank you. Think about the people who guarded him. They didn't have athleticism like that yet. But that's what I'm saying. Nobody ever on this earth is like Michael Jordan, though. So it don't matter what era he is. Except for one guy.
Starting point is 00:56:38 So it don't matter what era he plays. But who's like LeBron, though? Nobody. No, nobody either. That's what I'm saying. It's freak of nature. Magic Johnson is like LeBron. Yeah, yeah. No, nobody either. That's what I'm saying. It's freak of nature. Magic Johnson is like LeBron. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:48 He had a 31-inch vertical. That's cute. He's LeBron. Magic Johnson meets with Sean Kemp as LeBron James. Between MJ and LeBron, who's the only one who could leave Vegas with more money than they showed up with? Good pivot, man. That's a good pivot. Wait, say it again? Between MJ and LeBron, who's the only one who could leave Vegas with more money than they showed
Starting point is 00:57:08 up there with Cuz LeBron walked out with 500k That was MJ smoked that for the first time I am MJ might win While not taking pictures with black. Oh my wins. I had to go against God like Gary Payne Joe Dumont Fuckers couldn't jump to say fucking couldn't jump to say they life. Let's let's talk about this Lakers are eight and three in their last 11 games Think about the shooting guards everybody was six for Name name God's name shooting guard. I played deep as that was six six like my MJ
Starting point is 00:57:45 I'll wait. I'm not understanding the logic here because he was out of the playoffs for seven straight years. That's cool. It doesn't matter who does this. Yeah, John Havichick got a good job. Oh, my God. Does it matter? Craig E. LaComma.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Oh, my God. Craig E. LaComma. Yeah. They had to bring in white boys guard, Rick Barry. LeBron will never be better than Kobe. LeBron James, 6'10". Never be better than Kobe Bryant. 265, 44-inch vertical in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:58:17 You don't think the move to Miami kind of put a little... That's the only thing that put... Is that the only thing? Yes. That's the only thing that put a... In his legacy. Oh, Jonah didn't have to leave. Magic didn't have to leave.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Bird didn't have to leave. Going to the Lakers didn't do nothing? No. It was already... Y'all already put him at number two. No matter what he do, he's at two. No. No matter what you do, he's at...
Starting point is 00:58:38 Once he went back to Cleveland, nobody cared. This is the house that Kobe built. Why are you over here knocking on our door? Want a chip at Cleveland? This is the house that Kobe built. Why are you over here knocking on our door? This is the house that Kobe built. Why are you over here knocking on our door? He did with a chip in Cleveland. He did with a chip in Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:58:49 But I asked the question. Y'all been in Cleveland. This is the house that Kobe built. Why are you knocking on our door? Respect. Kobe built? Yeah, but... You mean Magic, bro?
Starting point is 00:58:58 Oh, here we go. Magic and Kareem? Here we go. I'm a Kobe fan, but Magic... You're not going to give Magic and Kareem the legacy? You can't be a Kobe fan and say that out your mouth man Magic and Kareem didn't build it the Laker dynasty first No, no listen the house that Kobe this is the night's on about the crypto arena
Starting point is 00:59:13 Yeah, I'm talking about before the crypto. It was the Staples Center. It was Kobe's before that It was whoever it was before that so the form was man. Well the foreman and was magic your magic and then the stable They renovated a shack.ated that. Kobe and Shaq. Kobe and Shaq, and then Kobe, and then that was called something different. Yeah. LeBron James. Yeah, but he had his own shit. It's called LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:59:35 He had his own shit. You didn't have to come over here. You had two other places you could have named your place. We did. They said, what about George Michael? We did. This our shit. This our shit, man. Y'all took our leader out, man. Y'all took our leader out. We did. They said, what about George Micah? We did.
Starting point is 00:59:45 This our set. This our set, man. Y'all took our leader out, man. Y'all done... Come on, man. Y'all done took our man out, and you gonna move into the set? Ain't nobody gonna do nothing? Nah, I'm dropping a dime on y'all niggas.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I don't like this shit. All right, let's talk about... I don't like this shit. Let's talk about the runner-ups in the NBA Cup. The Pacers and Indianapolis. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. made a statement going 61 beating the Celtics and Bucks and route to their champion the Celtics and Bucks the teams that did y'all tell me we're running the eat got ran through got me through when it mattered bright lights T-Mobile Arena.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Like every team you go for, just... I'm just saying, right? It's not every team he decided to go for, just a... In the finals. Don't... In the finals. Miami was in the finals. In the finals. No, he picked them...
Starting point is 01:00:38 In the finals. Finals. Have you noticed he always picked the team that's hot? Have you noticed I always end up... And then he get them, and then they not. I always end up- And then he get them and then they not. I always end up with the ring at the end. They not. You do have an underdog fantasy ring.
Starting point is 01:00:49 The ring and the crown. The ring and the crown always- He jumped on Miami after they- after they- When did you jump on Miami last year? I did. When they went up three- three- one against Bucks. Nope. He started off as a Boston Celtics fan in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:01:03 So then that just means I'm back to where I started. No, that's why I said that. And then he jumps in Miami. See how he be trying to make him back to where I started. It's back to back. I need a backy out of me. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you would have just thought that Boston, the way they was playing,
Starting point is 01:01:17 would be in a championship. It's a Monday on Gil's Arena. It is Monday. The gift that keeps on giving. We're trying to get it together over there, Boston. Let's talk about young, burgeoning superstar Tyrese Halliburton in the six games that counted in the in-season tournament. He averaged 28, 14 assists, 6 rebounds.
Starting point is 01:01:35 Not a great game in the championship. Still finished with 20 and 11. So what did Tyrese Halliburton show you on the big stage? Nah, he played well in the championship. He actually played well. The only thing he was doing, he played well in the championship. He actually played well. The problem, the only thing he was doing, it was them threes, bro.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Like, that's what killed them. When they were just actually going to the basket, they were keeping up, right? And then at some point, you know, they're trying to do these hero plays and they kept shooting threes, so you know what, he went eight for 14. He went eight for 14 from the field, but basically all his misses was threes.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Far threes. It wasn't even three-point line threes. He shooting from the hash. He do it. He do that, though. You know what I mean? But it's like when you're in this moment, you can see that Lakers went into the game with a purpose, and the purpose was we was not going to settle.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Yeah. Right? We're not going to settle. We're going to beat them inside, and they only took we was not going to settle. We're not going to settle. We're going to beat them inside, and they only took 13 threes. Pacers took 13 threes. They were two for 13, but they recognized very early on that that jumper was not jumpering. They didn't hit a three until like the middle of third quarter.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Pacers shot 41 threes, went 10 for 41. Halliburton, two for eight. Buddy Hill, two for nine. Defense, though. But that's what I'm saying. Defense, though. But that's what I'm saying is that we're going to beat you up inside if when Pacers was just driving and getting to the basket, they were keeping the fuck up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Let's talk basketball. If we're really going to talk about it, like, their scheme for Halliburton you can see right off the bat. Worked immediately. Double him at the top. Miles is coming in. We're going to intercept that pass. A couple turnovers early shook him up,
Starting point is 01:03:09 and you could tell he's trying to figure out what the plan B is going to be. And Miles Turner just didn't show up. Offensively or defensively, his grit and his grind and to be able to show that this is going to be a tough night for AD didn't show up at all. They second-tiered. Guys didn't show up because they're new to this. And I think that LeBron and AD knew that.
Starting point is 01:03:29 They knew the company and they smell blood in the water. They're like, look, we punch them in the mouth early is one thing, but when we got them down, let's keep them down. Let's drown them. And so that's what I seen that was happening. And you make a team, a young team like Indiana, shoot more threes and rush and be all discombobulated it's gonna show and I think that's what it did even though I look for them to compete a little bit more it was one thing to see them like
Starting point is 01:03:54 fold because they're young well what's the experience is so and that's why I said the end season with the season tournament is gone it's gone it's gonna show a lot about teams and players like yes one one game but i feel like the only teams that's going to win the in-season tournament are teams that are champions yep so pacers generational offense i think they have the highest point per game average as of right now nba history their defense 28th lakers coming in with a obviously a top tier defense this season well let's talk a little bit just about what this in-season tournament did for the Pacers. The Pacers only had six national TV games scheduled for this season.
Starting point is 01:04:29 Tyrese Halliburton thinks that other players seeing them on a national stage like the in-season tournament could help with recruiting. So we have a Mosey fans question. We have a Mosey fans question. Gil, the all-star game is in Indianapolis. The all-star game is in Indianapolis. Save this shit. That man said recruit.
Starting point is 01:04:53 This ain't college. Nobody's going to Indianapolis. Gil, save this shit for after February. We got to go to Indianapolis. What? We got to get here. So we got a mostly fans question. And what person or type of player did the Pacers need to take them to the next level?
Starting point is 01:05:16 They need a real shooting guard, right? They don't have someone who's going to go get his own bucket. Well, I mean, you have Benedict. Well, he needs to be starting, and you take Brown out the lineup, right? Is Buddy starting? Buddy starts. Buddy needs to start. But I would take Brown.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I mean, your small forward is 6'4", right? Bruce Brown. Like, you don't need to be starting, right? Like, I get it. Like, he was over as a champ, but that... We need a real player here. Like, you was a great... No, no, I mean, you was a great fit player.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Yep. Here, we need someone that can really do his thing. So, you know, Bear Down should be starting. Okay. Bigger, stronger, more aggressive. Bring Bruce off the bench, right? And you can do whatever you do as a role player off the bench. So we think about...
Starting point is 01:06:07 I don't need him and Buddy Hill doing the same thing. Think about legendary Indiana Pacers. A name that comes to mind, Paul George. Paul George set to become a free agent this offseason. Do you see any world where he tries to come back? No. To where it all starts? Paul George go back.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Hell no. Hell no. You don't leave LA. You don't leave Miami. You don't leave Miami to go back to Cleveland either, right. No, you don't leave LA you don't need me you taste it No, you don't leave Miami to go back to Cleveland either, right? Yeah, you do if you're LeBron James, okay I mean, I'm just saying wherever LeBron go they go that's home. But why not why? For what what do they got?
Starting point is 01:06:36 What do they got going because the one thing he wanted to do was come back home and he did that and he still lost who? TG Come back home. Yeah, he's home. I'm saying I'm why not go why not go back to where? Indiana's I want to be there. I got drafted here. He did want to be there. Oh, he definitely told me. Hey, man I think we figured it out And I think it was our people wait wait wait wait you figure what I go to the Lakers I got a taste of the same that way back. Listen, he got a taste of Ruth Chris He don't need going back to crack a barrel Yeah, it's like LA I'm not leaving LA. What's your problem with Indianapolis? Nothing nothing
Starting point is 01:07:27 It's just did I just like yeah, I got cat you're going to catch you're going to catch LA every night They got ocean air in India No He ain't young no more. Thank you. Young no more. I don't even think they got a five-star hotel Golden Corral That hotel that they used to put us at I don't even think that a five-star hotel in here No, oh you mean um that right it right across the from the Downtown
Starting point is 01:07:59 Yeah, whatever that hotel was don't even have a five-star hotel in Indiana. They have several Bonvoy properties. West is Marriott. Not the Cromwell. No, no. Something like that, yeah. It was terrible, though. Let me look it up. Corat, Cor.
Starting point is 01:08:15 It's something with a C. Yeah, something with a C. Conrad. Conrad. Conrad. Conrad. Hilton property, Hilton, you know. I mean, sorry.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Stop, man. We ain't going backwards, baby They need some yeah, that's the work. They look it's Jim is Tomorrow the Rosen on Zach Levine. They split that Bulls team. No, no, no I mean they need some they need someone they need it. They do need a shooting guard Of the Rosa. I can take all the Thompsonlay Thompson. That's scoring title. In Indiana. Klay Thompson in Indiana. That's the play. Klay not leaving. That's the play for Halliburton.
Starting point is 01:08:50 That's the play for them. But you need some. When you. Klay not going there. But think about it. When you need a go-to basket, who are you going to? That's the problem. They're going to have the ball in his hand, Halliburton's hand anyway.
Starting point is 01:09:00 But that's what I'm saying. He. He's not the go-to guy. He's not the go-to guy. What about a guy like Brandon Ingram just throwing that out there? You can do Brandon Ingram. I like that. I like that. I'm saying. He he not the go-to guy. He's not the go to what about guy like like Brandon Ingram Just throwing that out there. You can do my name Like them guys give it to it. I guess that great. I got a better I'm doing Brandon The rose rose and I think obviously was announced today. He's looking at the heat
Starting point is 01:09:16 I forget the other team if he was to get traded he'd know he looked for the heat That's what his desired destinations according to her payment, Jimmy That'd be harder than having them. I know. I know. But Indianapolis? This late in your career too? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Property value? I'm not fucking with Miami. This late in my career. You get a baller spot in my knees. As soon as you go in there, you be like, ah. This late in my career, I ain't going to Miami. See them niggas working out? You be like, ah, damn.
Starting point is 01:09:40 Damn. This what y'all doing? Every day, y'all. Shit. Full schedule. And I just want to tell, when it's time to go to the gym, you're like, ah, I'm going to Miami. I'm going to Miami. I'm go to anybody. This ain't my career. I ain't going to Miami. See them niggas working out. You're like, damn. This is what y'all doing. Every day. We'll schedule.
Starting point is 01:09:48 And I just want to tell. Where the trainer at? Where the trainer? Find people in Indianapolis. You have a great city. We will be there all-star weekend. Do not pull up on us and let us. Wait, who is?
Starting point is 01:09:57 Who is? You didn't hear? Hell no. Wait, we going? We're supposed to. What y'all scared of, niggas? That's just snow. Y'all told me, man.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Get you three elements. Culture yourself. Snow bunny. Man, well, put me in a nice hotel. Take the cabaret. Ain't no damn nice hotel. All the players going to be at the Conrad Bob Ford property. We can get so thirsty.
Starting point is 01:10:18 They got Westies. They got Marriott. They got Courtyard Inn. We can get so thirsty. Y'all don't like the Courtyard Bar? Marriott, it could be a five-star. I need some new work. If the approach corrects me. I'll stop complaining. Oh, yeah. I do it could be a five-star. I need some more Correct. I'll stop complaining. Oh, yeah, you gonna find some out there stop complaining man
Starting point is 01:10:30 Married and let me find mine Who's having a good ass? Oh, okay. I was having a good ass day before he saw I like to manifest you do you the boss if you say no we keep trying to find my trail That's it. We all go on. Let's go. You're not trying to help me find my city neither find mine. Let's just throw a home party, though There's arena function we'll stay at a bar where's it at after that the Bay Area I think we should wait I think we should go to the Bay Area now. Go to San Diego, be there. I know where Clay and Steph go be. No, Steph be an all-star. Yeah, we do an all-star function in the Bay this 2024. Legendary. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Why not? Just beat them to the punch. Just go out there and just beat them to the punch. We've been here. But before the NBA Cup Final, Haliburton has some interesting comments on LeBron and who will be the face of the league when LeBron finally retires. I mean, he is the gold standard of basketball players. Everybody obviously strives to be that. And as far as like whose job it is to take the reins from him, I don't really know if that's
Starting point is 01:11:38 up for us to decide. That's like a media thing, to be honest with you. I think that as players, guys are just going out there and doing what they're doing. I think we're at really like the peak of our sport right now. We got some of the greatest players ever still in our league today. And there are things being done on a nightly basis that have never been done before. So I think guys are, you know, prepared for whenever that time is. I don't, only Laura knows when he's going to slow down, you know. But I think the league is in really good hands for when that time is. Only Laura knows when he's going to slow down, you know. But I think the league is in really good hands for when that time does come. And, you know, whoever the face of the league,
Starting point is 01:12:12 that's not up for us guys to decide. So what are your thoughts on what Halliburton? Hallie! Is the league at its peak right now just in terms of what we got? And what do you think about his thoughts on the media kind of determining who will be that next face of the league? I think it's in better hands than it was when Michael Jordan retired that first time, where they wasn't expecting it.
Starting point is 01:12:39 They wasn't in place for some star players to take over. I think right now we do have a group of mid and young players that can carry their own weight. But when you're talking about carrying the league like Magic and Bird did, Michael Jordan, Cole when he had it, LeBron James, right? He's got those stuff in that mix, too. You know what I'm saying? Just in terms of being. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least three years he carried him.
Starting point is 01:13:11 At least three. But when you're talking about carrying, like. He was the face. Words do not work. Like him, KD, but that's the thing. There's going to be a three-headed monster. Like even right now, the face is LeBron, but Jokic, Embiid, Greek, Luka, they're carrying. Steph is carrying.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Everyone's doing their part. But Joker basically said he don't fuck with us. We're cool. We can give... Look, we hear what he's saying. But for the most part, I think everyone at this point is doing the part of, you know, carrying, you know, their weight. You know, before, before it was one man carrying the team.
Starting point is 01:13:57 But, I mean, carrying the league. And, you know, arguably the league just merged. And, you know, it took two people to really keep the reins intact and then Michael Jordan took it over the top. I don't think that there will be another time where one man carries the league.
Starting point is 01:14:12 That's what I'm about to say. I think now it will be like a panel. Even when you was playing, when y'all did the Adidas campaign, you, Mac, KG, to me that was a campaign rolling out for the next phase. So you see that and you're like, all right, T-Mac's playing well,
Starting point is 01:14:34 Tim's playing well, Gilbert's playing well, Chauncey, KG, everybody's playing well. This must be the new kings of the league. So Cole still being able to take it to a whole nother level let you know how talented the league Was because it's supposed to be y'all's league. Yeah, then it's like well cold was still going at this level Adidas rolled that out Nike rolled out that second coming one of my favorite commercials ever But I'm just saying like you got LeBron doing what he was doing So now it's like LeBron was left over to do it by himself
Starting point is 01:15:02 It wasn't never someone else supposed mellow and none of them supposed to be with him It was LeBron, but now it's like alright who we gonna we got a pig multiple guys Yeah, the league about to look like the real league. They bother just put a bunch of niggas on a poster Yes, yeah, I mean they have to know There's gonna always be someone that stands above and it's a it's whoever's winning I don't think it's whoever's winning the rings at the time. Right, right. Just that year.
Starting point is 01:15:27 But after that, they're going to go on to somebody else. Talent? Who's the most talented? It's going to be multiple guys. Every year, it's going to be somebody. It's not going to be blatantly just like me. Yeah, one guy. It's never going to be just LeBron.
Starting point is 01:15:37 No more. It will never be that. Because you look at Ja, like how you like Ja. You like Ja's the most entertaining. But we got to put him next to Luka. Then we got to put him up and coming at SGA. Ja has a chance. Ja's the only one, I think, out of everybody in the league that
Starting point is 01:15:50 has a chance to take him. We've talked about this. When you're talking about just how he plays the game, when you're talking about being the face of something, your game has to match how you sell.
Starting point is 01:16:08 The only person who game matches it, I mean, you're talking about how he plays it, the air, everything he does, is Ja. Right. And that's like after Steph. Like, Steph was... Like, Steph made it different. It was like, it came out of nowhere. It was like, shooting, the dribbling, the shifting.
Starting point is 01:16:31 It gave all the guys who weren't athletic, like, oh, shit, we got one. But it gave him this, though, like the advertising aspect of the fucking, what do you call that, the shit, the Chris Paul shit. State Farm. State Farm. Like, seeing Steph in that element lets you know like, oh, they're trying to brand him as the face of the league because his game fit... Everybody else. It's like, oh, the advertisement match up. It's like, oh...
Starting point is 01:16:55 You're not taking anything away from Steph, but more people look like Steph. They look like LeBron or whatever. You think that, but Steph's obviously physical specimen, bucket getter. Like, Greek, Jokic, and B, they're never going to be the face. No. Because the average person can't identify Like you like that but steps obviously physical specimen bucket getter like Greek Jokic and be they're never gonna be the face No, because the average person can't identify with them. So the average person the average kid right now identifies with one man One man only that's John Moran. Oh, yeah I mean like when you ask the kids right now who who is their favorite player is gonna be Stefan John Moran
Starting point is 01:17:22 Yeah, so the next coming is the dude that dances and has fun. Like Ant-Man fits. Ant-Man. Behind John. Ant-Man. The problem is John Moran is supposed to be there, but Ant-Man might get it because Ant-Man is. He's not as animated as John. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:17:40 He's funny. He can hold his own. He's playing right now. I wouldn't be mad if the league just say are we gonna run with him? Yes, because we can't give it a job because of all the yeah But yeah, if jock comes out averaging 30 and then next year 30 32 The world just automatically is gonna gravitate because it's Chris again. Do you guys think the game needs that? NBA would be in a bad place. They let a Minnesota Timberwolves be the first
Starting point is 01:18:04 That's how you feel. Yeah, so you The NBA would be in a bad place if they let a Minnesota Timberwolves be the first face of the fucking game. That's how you feel? Yeah. That's how you fucking feel? No, no, man. I don't know what NBA y'all been watching. So what NBA y'all been watching? But when they ready to put somebody as a face, trust me, that motherfucker going to be in L.A., Boston, Chicago, or New York.
Starting point is 01:18:26 How you feel about Tatum being the face? Because he's in L.A., Boston, Chicago, or New York. How you feel about Tatum being the face? Because he's in Boston. That's what they'll do. Nah. He has to look. He has to look for the ladies. Do you know where Jason Tatum needs to go if he really wants to be the face of the league? He's in the city, but he's in the city. He's in the city.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Bro, being the face of the league to me, I feel like it has to happen like right away Yeah, like it has to happen right like Jordan that should happen right away LeBron that should happen right away cold that should happen right away It wasn't no it like like even when cold was in the playoffs rookie year any air But it was still you already knew like this thing is gonna be that he was on That was it was on John Moran said that's what say nobody with the Lakers. All right, so he's already in that national market But nobody else is nobody else is coming into the league having that already like that just like yo
Starting point is 01:19:11 He's got to be the ace that like I am like job job was the only one to me Yeah, and just I is I had a chance but other than that, it's kind of just like like I mean, you know They'll get there when they get there But there's no like it's gonna have to go back into the draft Somebody's got to come out in the draft again and like do it. I see Gave me that feel Whimpy maybe don't do it You know what?
Starting point is 01:19:38 He has the guard game that the kid I remember it's kids yes right kids don't identify with bigs yet so you're about this Duncan and doing all that that's still a while to them so because he has the guard game that kids can gravitate to it could it could be him yeah but right now I'm gonna give it to Ja and you know who you know that man's Lonzo wall Lonzo did. Lonzo had a chance. It was... I think Mello got a chance now. When you think about history,
Starting point is 01:20:11 the flash is cool. I mean, Mello Ball, my bad. Kids want that. They like that dunk. Think about when you go to a camp. What's the first thing them fuckers ask you? Can you dunk? They don't ask to see your layout package.
Starting point is 01:20:26 No layout package. No layout package. You be old and you be sitting there like, yeah. I just got here, little man. You little shit. Can you dunk? Can I stretch first? And they be like, nah, man, I can't dunk it.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Oh, why we bring him? He can't do nothing cool. You little shit. He don't do nothing cool. You little little shit. He don't do nothing cool. He's a fucker. So how much, I mean, we talk about these guys, but how much will winning a chip help separate one of these young guys from the pack? Because you even talk about Ammon right now,
Starting point is 01:20:53 Timberwolves' best team in the league right now, but from a national TV standpoint, I think they only got, what, like, 10 games or something crazy. Thunder only got 13 games. The chip is going to separate them. First of all, who probably is going to get a chip would be Jason Tatum out of the group. Agreed.
Starting point is 01:21:09 Because he's the closest one to it. He's the closest team that can get him there. Yeah. But he's on the right team. He's on the right team. He got a team. He got the look. He got the package. As soon Jordan Brand. He got the package.
Starting point is 01:21:25 So as soon as the NBA want to run its package with him, he's there. He's already set. That's all there is, though. This might be a wild take. What will it take for the Minnesota Timberwolves to win it? Win what? Championship. This year.
Starting point is 01:21:37 They got to move their team out of Minnesota. In-season? In-season? Not again. Not again. They can win the in-season tournament. I'm talking about right now up until the point where it's time to fight for the playoff spots. Can the Minnesota Timberwolves put a team together outside of the one that they have
Starting point is 01:21:52 now that can make a run? They got to trade. They're going to have to trade. I mean, you know, with the NBA, when you're talking about small markets, and this is just be, we're just going to be honest. No super talent, no talent, no talented player wants to sit in a cold city. Right?
Starting point is 01:22:10 We just, you know, just being in a cold city like- They got heaters, Gil. But everyday living. Everyday living. I get it. Even though we're not, even though the talent is not there as much, just the thought of the snow all the time. So you know, most of your guys are trying to get out of those cities.
Starting point is 01:22:24 So you know, they're your guys are trying to get out of those cities. So, you know, they're going to have to overpay. And the fact that, listen, if Elon Musk owned a team and money doesn't care, then yeah,
Starting point is 01:22:36 he can convince somebody who's worth $120,000, I'll give you $200,000. So overpaying for talent, like, oh, I'll overpay. Yeah, you can build apaying for talent, like, oh, I'll overpay. Yeah, you can build a championship team or get lucky like
Starting point is 01:22:48 Bucks did. They got Giannis to stay, though, and Milwaukee is cold as shit. But before that, you get a guy like Giannis who's really dedicated. He's just happy to be there. That just builds and you get the right pieces. Of course, we got Denver that 1-1 so it happens
Starting point is 01:23:09 You know, but it does happen But that's my question. It's rare. So does like what move could they make right now with? Free agency the way it all looks now. Could they make a move that could help them in postseason? Right now. You got Ant-Man, of course, not going to move. Say you don't move Cat, you got to move Rudy and the rest of those pieces. Yeah, but Rudy's balling right now. If I keep Rudy, I mean, I have three.
Starting point is 01:23:37 Listen, I got three good pieces. Yeah. I got a solid point guard. Need wings. Small forward. not read is your big back You know he's I mean They have listen they have a team They have a team is if Ant-Man can turn into a dominant force by his self We'll give you right now like I mean you're talking about if we age him
Starting point is 01:24:03 If we age him for like he sees what 23 24 if we age him, if we age him, he's what, 23, 24? If we age him, make him 27 right now, then he'll have it figured out. But he's still got to get through his understanding of how to be just a dominant, dominant, dominant force in and out. So this is what we
Starting point is 01:24:19 talk a lot about with the Timberwolves. 17-4 right now. They got a three-game lead for first in the West, but the difference between the regular season and the post season. So they got the young bodies, they can rattle off, they can finish top two in the West, but y'all are really not going to respect them going into a post season if they got to see a team like the Nuggets, see a team like the Lakers, see a team like the Warriors that has that playoff experience. So would you say that Ant needs to kind of grow into that killer right now? He's had three years, though.
Starting point is 01:24:46 He's had three years, but he has to grow into his I'm the best player in the world attitude now. Because when you talk about the surrounding pieces, he has surrounding pieces to put him in a championship. No, they're not dogs, though. But that's what I'm saying. He has to mentally turn into, like, if he has Jimmy Butler,
Starting point is 01:25:12 he can work out with Jimmy Butler for a summer to get him to that. So that it trickles down to his team. His shit trickles down to his team. You know, right now, he's still a kid. Yeah, but he's going to be the only one walking around there
Starting point is 01:25:23 like a dog. That's what he said. He's the example.. Yeah, but he gonna be the only one walking around there He's he's the exam when you're talking about when Jordan or the Kobe mentality is just that one dog Yeah, that one dog that takes everybody from we need to be serious today. Hey, stop this shit. Hey do this do that Come on, God, I'll carry you mother. Yes, anything they gonna do not that right now But I mean they try to do it when Jimmy was there and it didn't happen So okay, they were they were too young.'t happen. So because they were too young. They were too young even though he was doing it. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Jimmy Butler left how long ago? Four years ago. That's four years ago. And where they at now? Now what if Jimmy had that team right now? And think about who was on that team. That was Wiggins. Wiggins was still on that team and Levine was still on that team.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Take that team right now and put Jimmy Butler on it right now with the talent that's matured. It was an apple tree that didn't have no apples yet. They'll be fighting for real. That'd be a nice team. And that was D-Lo. D-Lo was on that team, too. If you take Jimmy Butler right now and put him on there while he asks Ant-Man and all them, he changes the fuck up. Oh yeah, that's a different game right there.
Starting point is 01:26:29 That's a different game. They got it. They just, he just needs, he just needs to be 27. That's why it's like when you say DeMar, DeMar to that team with Ant-Man, Ant-Man, DeMar, Cat and Rudy, if you can steal that, that's a four man team. DeMar didn't even do it. It's at eight. He just did that one. Demar to Indiana would be good.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Either you're going to get a Jimmy Butler or Demar that'll help, or you time machine motherfucker and man at 27. Because at 27, you're going to be like, oh shit, this motherfucker. So you mean get rid of him at 27?
Starting point is 01:27:00 No, right now you're like, okay. Him at 27, you're like, watch out. Yeah. Watch out. But he out of there, right? You said he'll be out of there by then. That's what I'm saying. He out of there. He'll be out of there, but he ain't going to stay. He going to do his case.
Starting point is 01:27:18 He's the only player I can see could be a Laker. He got the Laker charisma, the style. He fits that Laker charisma, the style. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He fits that, yeah. Yeah, he fits that. For sure. For sure.
Starting point is 01:27:28 But you don't think he'll stay in Minnesota? I mean, this is the problem that we always talk about. He's not a Minnesota Timberwolf, man. He's going to do what everybody else has been doing. He's going to go back home. Atlanta? Oh, hell. Oh, hell.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Oh, hell. But y'all say that now. Fuck no. Y'all say that now. He's going back to Atlanta. You talking about shaping a team around your guy from home? Oh hell nah, he I'll say that now. Oh, no y'all say that now You talk about shaping a team around your guy from home Atlanta there ain't gonna happen. I'm right. Yeah, Trey young get Hawks fans don't even come to game
Starting point is 01:27:59 Man They got it man, man man come down here. They do not support Atlanta. Atlanta, man. Man, let me tell you something about Atlanta. They put some strip club chicken wings in there. They might get everybody in there. Yeah, for the Magic City up there. For the Magic City. They got clubs.
Starting point is 01:28:14 They got one of the nicest clubs. Yeah, they got you. When was the last time Atlanta had a real good team? Huh? When was the last time Atlanta had a real good team? Every year. With a real good player. Josh Smith.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Real good player. Joe Smith. Real good player. Joe Johnson. When they had Joe Johnson. It was all solid. Those was all solid. We're talking about like a human highlight. I'm talking about like a Dominique Wilkins type of player. You haven't had one of them since him.
Starting point is 01:28:39 So you throw Ant in there as the human highlight film type nigga? Joe Johnson. Yeah, I ain't taking nothing away from Joe, but he wouldn't know I'm going to see Joe tonight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you would. No. I'm not going to see Joe. We're not going to pay the...
Starting point is 01:28:51 But that's what I'm saying. There's only a few... No. But there's only a few seat... See that nigga, but I'm not going to pay. Like, I'm going to see Joe get 30 tonight. Josh Smith? I mean, Josh Smith was a human highlight.
Starting point is 01:29:02 That's what I'm saying. Yeah. But I'm not like, hey, bro, we're going to see Josh in them tonight. We're not doing that. No? Back then, with Jamal Crawford and them? No. I mean, Smith was a human highlight. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but I'm not like, hey bro, we're going to see Josh in them tonight. We're not doing that. No? Back then with Jamal Crawford in them? No. Ooh!
Starting point is 01:29:11 I was looking forward to playing against them. We got Atlanta tonight. I'm, yeah. Good night for them. With Marvin Williams in them? Nah. Oh yeah, it's a good night for me. Nah.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Now you take that team, right? That team, together as a group. They were just young Yeah, you to age them four years. That's that's that'd be some that'd be some of the NBA teams problems Yeah, they can identify what what? Older group will look like with that group like yeah, I can if you're a player you can say all right Three years from now all of them together, oh, this is going to be dangerous. By the time they get there, they take them off.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Like, watching the young Warriors, you're going to be like, okay, they're going to be a hell of a team. They just grew faster. Like, Steph at 24, 27, MVP. Mark Jackson. Shout out Mark Jackson. Even OKC. When OKC was building there, we were like, they're going to have a cool- But they let them go too fast.
Starting point is 01:30:09 But you talk about the Warriors, Bay Area, desirable place to live. Yeah. Oklahoma City. Not so. Got thunderstorms. Thunderstorms and college girls. House to be in the sky. But I'm just being real.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Just get in here. Get your ass in the house. No, not to these cities. More power to these cities. But from a desire standpoint, it's like a LeBron. No, not to these cities. Like, more power to these cities. But, you know, from a desire standpoint, it's like a LeBron. I go to Cleveland and Miami. I go back to Cleveland. That's home.
Starting point is 01:30:33 But, shit, I can go to L.A.? See you niggas later. It's easy to recruit. Man, it's easy to recruit people to L.A. It's easy to recruit to Boston, New York, Chicago, Miami. It's easy. So should the league put something in place where they get done but smaller markets even more bread like look We know your city's ass. Here's some more bread to fucking balance it. I'll sell your team then they've all Just say your team and put more teams in the big market
Starting point is 01:30:56 It's called it tracks. Yes, but they've done it already. They must travel they what I'm saying is they've done it where they put like The way they do it is like, you get paid more if you stay in your own city. They've already done that. So when LeBron left to Miami, it's not designed for him to leave to Miami. It wasn't designed for Kawhi to come to LA. So the way the NBA does it, it's not designed for you to leave. You get penalized a lot of money for leaving.
Starting point is 01:31:21 But you can do sign and trade. I mean, there's workarounds with all that shit. But that's what... Get rid of the workarounds. Yeah. Right? Get rid of the workarounds. Get rid of the sign and trade. If you get rid of the sign and trades, that will stop a lot of players from signing and trading. Because
Starting point is 01:31:35 if I can say, alright, Indiana, I don't want to be here anymore. Sign and trade me to LA. Of course I can get to there. Because I'm getting my max money and I'm going to the city I want. If you just let this gap hit, same thing when I was a free agent,
Starting point is 01:31:51 126, one-on-one, yeah, I'm good. I'm good right here where I belong, right? It's designed that you take away signing trades and you don't have to worry about players sitting there leaving. But at the end of the day, it's hard. It's really like five-star.
Starting point is 01:32:13 It's really like a five-star restaurant versus three stars, two stars. Like you said, work. It's hard to keep your work of a million-dollar dude sitting there trying to holler. You got a nine-to-five you got it you got a nine-to-five your girls a dime and you got a hundred million dollars in a DM No chance brother brother brother brother you can have brother. Yeah, brother. Say it right now You got nine to five that hundred million dollar ain't got no job We're having to love you cool. Exactly. You know how it's going to end for her. Love.
Starting point is 01:32:47 We're having the love right back when you started. It don't matter. At the main of the nine to five, think about what you got to do. You can't argue no more. One regular fight, one normal fight as a couple.
Starting point is 01:33:04 She's looking at that hundred million. It's called indecent proposal. You're in it great decent proposal Hey, this is I'm I need one night with your wife for 1 million dollars. I'm saying One night I saw that movie day that movies crazy and it was never acted the same this she left She said it ain't the same said, it ain't the same, Jack. It ain't the same. The steak tastes different over there. Listen, I'm saying that. Mutual funds.
Starting point is 01:33:33 It tastes different over there, Jack. I just can't stay. Should have bought some Apple shares. How much? Such an accent. He has a helicopter, Jack. Have you ever been on a helicopter and had caviar? No.
Starting point is 01:33:48 Jack. But that's the same thing with a regular team. L.A. versus Minnesota. You don't have nothing to offer. You got nothing to offer me. They got Roscoe's out here. But that's why they can't make it fair. It can't be $100 million.
Starting point is 01:34:04 They're giving you $100 million. They're giving you a hundred million, they're giving you a hundred million. I'm going to take this hundred million every single time. Every single time, yeah. Tough shit, move to LA. Listen, we don't tape this show in Oklahoma City. No disrespect.
Starting point is 01:34:19 We don't tape this show. You can only handicap it for... It's like you're trying to let the broker teams Compete you're broke. You can't compete Get your billions up thing. There's no disrespect. We have respect for you. Get your billions and compete. I'm sorry Get your billions up get another beast But get another B. Steve Farmer's over here like, get your weight up. Get another B. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:34:51 We're making fun of him, but how you think, when we have a lockout, how you think those meetings start? Think about it, fans. How they walking into the meeting. When them, see, when we're having a lockout, remember there has to be something going on before it even gets to that. What it is, is them owners are sitting there playing who dick is bigger mm-hmm or that's how it's for John language no no I ain't good who's who got the bigger bread if I got 18 billion dollars
Starting point is 01:35:18 if I got 18 billion I'm sitting there with 18 billion and you over there trying to have a conversation with me with your 1 billion Who is this dude? This is this is drinking with my little this is this guy when they went into the lock when they went into the lockout They had Paul Allen Rich right, right poor listen Paul Allen, please. There's like Paul Allen, please please. When we started arguing, can you please say something? Right? Please say something for the little guy. Right?
Starting point is 01:35:49 So how do you feel, Paul Allen? He was in the back. So this ain't his problem. The problem that y'all are arguing about, it ain't his problem. It ain't Buzz's problem. It ain't... Ball problem. It ain't... Ballmer. Oh, now Ballmer wasn't there.
Starting point is 01:36:08 You got New York. Donald Sterling broke ass. And they were like, help me. Dolan. And Miami. And Dallas. And Mickey. Mickey here.
Starting point is 01:36:15 It wasn't their problem. Y'all over here arguing about money. Oh, the little team's just losing. The rich ones were like, this ain't our problem. Why are we even here? Take it from the players. And that's when the lockout happens. Hide the money, y'all.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Them owners big boy each other. Like, yo, I didn't tell you to buy the team. You want to be part of the boys club, then deal with it. That's what they did to Michael Jordan. Yep, Michael Jordan. Hey, big bread only up here, motherfucker. Broke ass, inward. Dead ass, dude.
Starting point is 01:36:50 They did to him. They big bread him. We know you Michael Jordan, but welcome to this club. You the brokest one in this club. You need a loan, Mike? You need a loan? You need a loan?
Starting point is 01:37:03 Because y'all ain't winning. You're going to need a loan soon. You're going to need a loan, Mike? Huh? You need a loan? You need a loan? Because y'all ain't winning. You're going to need a loan soon. You're going to need a loan soon, Mike. No, no, no, but that's life, though. No, no. So now what you're talking about, when you're talking about a commissioner trying to make it fair,
Starting point is 01:37:14 he's trying to make this boys club fair when you can't. You can't. The moral of the story, life is not fair. No matter when, whatever club you get into, there's going to be big bosses in there And then big bosses because they're always flex no matter what rule you make Everybody we gonna wear if how I wear sandals to the guy
Starting point is 01:37:34 I don't give a fuck what rule you wear in high school if I want to wear sandals goddammit I'm gonna get in same thing same you your dress code Don't apply to me every every establishment always have a dress code, right? And then there's always a few people in there that don't got on the dress code. Because their money says otherwise. Leave me alone. That's why I wear shorts. Gil's Arena dress code, jeans.
Starting point is 01:38:00 I say no. I say no. The salary cap works. And to Mark Cuban and Balmer says otherwise says otherwise man, and then they gonna be like I thought you said no shoes in We don't see it Let's keep this thing moving. We got to talk about another subject, you know near and dear to our hearts So after the Lakers smacked the Pelicans in the end season tournament semifinals
Starting point is 01:38:25 port dropped from Christian Clark of NOLA calm that the pelicans Reportedly told Zion Williamson that his diet and conditioning need to improve But Zion isn't listening Zion struggled past few games. He had 10 points in the pelicans win over the Kings to advance to the Final Four. 13 points in there, smacking him by the Lakers. Inside the
Starting point is 01:38:49 NBA crew was critical of him. We played Barkley's comments last week. Shaq also called out Zion, but Shaq acknowledged he had similar issues his first few years in the league. Thinks Zion still has the skill set to be a superstar. His first few years. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:39:08 I'm sorry. It's the gold bottle. Yeah, we got to see these people. No, but when I'm saying his first few years, you mean Orlando or you mean Laker until he left?
Starting point is 01:39:18 You know he was... I mean... We say he was like 4'15 at one point. What you going to do with all that? We're not talking Orlando is the first few years. Lakers he retired that's that's not if that's not his first few that means his career Maybe she's talking about running hard learning, you know
Starting point is 01:39:35 Understanding what the lead level of shape was Listen Barkley Shaq Instead of calling them fat, you should be trying to talk to them and help him because y'all had that problem. I can't tell you how to deal with it. Y'all had that problem, what'd y'all do?
Starting point is 01:39:55 Or what didn't y'all do? Because y'all both gained weight past what you were supposed to. Unfortunately, no one laughed at you because you were still dominating like I talked to some of the players that played for Houston Rockets when Charles Barkley got there and they said Charles Barkley was really overweight and His weight problem is what stopped him from making that next left that that next step when he came there They said he was the problem, but this is the old old bar. It don't matter just saying it. Don't not do it matter. This is not young bar LeBron James
Starting point is 01:40:32 LeBron James But anomaly go they don't matter if you want like so instead of throwing throwing darts at him just say man This is what you need to do because Because whatever problem y'all had, he has. He has it. But we're used to criticizing. We don't want to help. Especially with our own, we're talking about brotherhood, talking about all this, the league is this,
Starting point is 01:40:55 now the other, first thing we do is, oh he's fat. He's this fat nigga. It's like, yo, he young, bro. We talked about it in Vegas. We was like, you know, we want to advocate for him. It's like, you know. And that's why he showed up to the show. Like, took time out of, bro. We talked about it in Vegas. We was like, you know, we want to advocate for him. It's like, you know. And that's why he showed up to the show. Took time out of his day.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Break his silence. But you can't make somebody do some shit that they need to do, but you can't advocate and help and encourage it. You can encourage it. So we got a mostly fans question. It's from Akeem's Travel Agency. He normally drops video. He normally drops video. This one is just a text question.
Starting point is 01:41:24 So the question is, since his poor performance against the Lakers in the IST semifinals, Zion has gotten a lot of criticism for still being relatively out of shape. Is this a major concern for the Pelicans moving forward, or is everyone overreacting? To be honest, I didn't hear shit you said. I was trying to signal so I can get some more. I was trying not to look at this. I was trying not to look at this. Oh, I'm sorry. He you said I was trying to signal so I can get some today. We just plan and Guess what everybody else I got the crane levels over top
Starting point is 01:42:13 Professor Johnson Today, that's what listen Joe's reading that question. I'm over here like Guess what? I'm over here doing this and I'll come in a. And I'm over here like this, trying not to look and shit. I'm over here playing knock him in the middle with this. I'm like, you ain't getting me, you ain't getting me. I'm sorry Joe, we tried, we was trying Joe. Every day, every day I'm one step closer to calling all three of y'all broke niggas. So, every day. We was going to accept it. Slowly but surely.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Like I'm watching Brett, I'm sitting here like damn. I'm watching Brett and sitting here with the signal. I'm like. He's like, he's like, he's like. Joe just reading it, she be like, hey, I'm just being, what you saying? I'm just being, I'm just being. I'm just being. I'm just being.
Starting point is 01:42:38 I'm just being. I'm just being. I'm just being. I'm just being. I'm just being. I'm just being. I'm just being. I'm just being. I'm just being. I'm sitting here like I'm watching bread to sit here with the signal I'm here like this
Starting point is 01:42:47 Joe just reading this she was like Hard and so Okay, try to limit daddy just limit daddy in this 4 3 2 1 we are niggas are lazy still producing 28 with the flu Okay, go be do our bad shorter version design being out of shape a concern for the pelicans All right, Joe. What was the clue? 5.321. When y'all niggas are lazy, still producing. 28. With the flu. Okay, go ahead, Joe. Our bad. Shorter version. Is Zion being out of shape a concern for the Pelicans, or is everyone overreacting? And Hakeem's travel agents. I write long-ass questions.
Starting point is 01:43:14 And producer, I put these long-ass questions in a motherfucking doc. It trickles up. It trickles up. No, no. Know how? I think as soon as you started reading, we checked out. It didn't matter how long. soon as you started reading we checked out Congratulations Yes, so not no I go home to my family soon enough No one's overreacting everybody. You know we have everyone has a fair assessment of Bottles of concern
Starting point is 01:43:56 Okay, here go joke Thank you everyone has everyone everyone damn yeah Get on my level, nigga. Get on my level. Okay. Yeah. Been doing this. Everyone is really concerned, and their concern is right because he's, it looks like he's still, you know, gaining weight, right?
Starting point is 01:44:18 You know, we've addressed it. But this right here more is more of a personal, he's going to have to really understand that he can't do what everyone else is doing. Right? This is going to be a conscious decision. This is not, he cannot be normal. This is, his game, he is not competing with who's best three man, who's the best four man. He is competing with Zion, the high school Zion, his version of him when he was in high school. The version of when he came into Duke.
Starting point is 01:44:54 That's the version of who he is competing with. Because if he can beat that battle between himself, then whoever's in front of him doesn't matter at that point. Because he's going to be the ultimate player. Right now, I think he's still trying to be a kid and not realizing you don't have the luxury anymore. You never did. It's now just catching up with you. You're going to have to be body conscious the rest of your time playing
Starting point is 01:45:29 And we're not here to make excuses for him, but it's something we harped on previously He was 22 at that point 23 now had just turned 23 when he pulled up on us in Vegas He's still a kid unfortunately, but here's what we're doing. this is what we're not to make excuses that's 23 what we're doing is we're not allowing none of these kids that have talent to pan out how they actually are going to pan out we want them to pan out the way we see their talent we see their potential it's like oh if he only does this he'll be this and that like they're going to take their path the way that they see it and And right now Zion is going to take a path as being one of the greatest high school players that we've ever seen grace the court. They come into college and have an expectation and go into the league to have an expectation and never really reaching the pinnacle of that. And I think that if we're okay
Starting point is 01:46:18 with knowing that Zion could have been a bunch of shit that we never seen before, but he ended up being exactly who he know he could be. The guy who's always going to be chasing his weight, always going to be trying to figure it out, and fighting against the odds. Because if he don't turn the corner, like, what can we say about the nigga? We can't say, like, oh, man, you a failure,
Starting point is 01:46:38 you a disappointment. Nah, you Zion Williamson. You Zion Williamson. You exactly who you was supposed to be. You could have been something more, You Zion Williams, you exactly who you were supposed to be. You could have been something more, but that's our own expectations of him. He not thinking that shit. Zion averaging 22-6, five assists, playing 31 minutes a game this season.
Starting point is 01:46:56 I think we say that knowing what it could be. What we've seen at times, the 27-6, the Pelicans dominating the West, and now to see them dropping 13 and 10 and just looking like a guy out there when we know how much of a beast Zarian could be. I mean, it's just part of the game of basketball, too. I think when you're out for so long, guys are getting their chances and their opportunities. I always feel like now with the talent in the league being so good,
Starting point is 01:47:24 guys only got like two years. You only got like two years to really show if you're going to be on the superstar level or you're just going to be mid because every year, man, it's this next young kid coming in or somebody that's just like you because the talent is so good. Talk about it. He's 23. Hopefully he can finish out this year strong and then come back next year
Starting point is 01:47:45 But man by 25 man, it could be looking it could really be looking nasty when I was on when I was with complex and I was the only person that was like There's like yeah, he's 285 and I was like when did having weight like that When was that like a thing like if that's what he weighs at 18, I can only imagine what he's going to weigh at 22. You guys are glorifying his weight. And to him, he's going to think naturally, I need to get bigger. When in reality, he needs to get smaller, right? So I said, you know, this is up, like he'll be three something as a 22 year old. When is that going to look good? Like all that weight is coming down when you, when he lands that six times body weight and he don't have normal power.
Starting point is 01:48:32 He has rockets. Yeah. Right. That rocket goes up. It has to come down when it comes down. That is six times. That's those are tons. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:41 Right. And that's when I said, man, if I'm in his ear, this is before he came drafted. He should be getting down to shooting guard weight. Shooting guard weight. He needs to be at the 340. Because when people think about it. 240 seconds. Fuck yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:58 240. Yes. So when you're talking about like, well, he won't be as strong. Well, he don't need to be strong, that strong anymore because with his jumping, with his natural bounce and his natural push through him jumping the faster, stronger coming through the lane. Fuck no, no one's guarding that. No one's jumping with him. You don't need to be stronger than Giannis. You're going to be jumping over Giannis. You're going to be jumping over these guys.
Starting point is 01:49:29 So you don't need to carry the body weight to push through because think about Westbrook, but Westbrook at 240, 245 with your jumping ability, right? It's a whole different, you're thinking about, you know, Dwayne Wade pushing through with your jumping ability and that weight. Right. So he needs to be trying to go into the summer dropping 40, 50 pounds, whatever he's weighing right now. I know it's all I know it's all 330. I know it's 330. 100 percent is 330. And the reason I know this is because I had a problem and it caught me because I you know
Starting point is 01:50:07 I was jumping on a scale right I come into the season at 206 Right we used to come in with like we wanted to see who can be the thinnest who can have the six-pack Right and then I jumped on the scale one time and that motherfucker was 224 And I freaked out like why how this is crazy during the season nothing changed like I'm still killing people I'm averaging 20 30 no one was stopping me But the fact that I seen the number and I like what the fuck is going on So I had to cut what's going on and realize I was just drinking too much Gatorade Right just drinking too much Gatorade. So I had to consciously cut it out and that's what's gonna happen
Starting point is 01:50:41 He's gonna have to consciously really think about what he's putting into his body. It's not easy. It's not, I don't give a fuck with nobody. They can say, oh, all he need to do is get a diet. You go on a diet at 20 fucking three years old. You stop going to the club at 23. Now let me give you all the money in the world. Like, so all them clubs that got 22 year olds that's him I don't get reason professional that's him why y'all in the club drinking every weekend not gaining and wait his body gains it he don't have the luxury hey at the end of the day Zion Williamson has a decision to make do you want to be a mediocre Anthony Bennett type nigga oh no or do. Or do you? Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Stop. I'm just saying. No, no. I'm going severe. His severe is where you're at right now, to be honest. Do you want to be a 22 points a game, six and five?
Starting point is 01:51:43 Do you want to be a two, three time all-star? But to me, I'm saying'm saying like worse than that is the anthony bennett don't get out of this hole you can't get out this where you are now you can make it out you can you can still be all-star zion you can still be a good player but for our expectation of you is that disappears so now only thing you can do is prove us right by saying that you're a bust. You don't want to be a bust. You don't want to come down from where you are now and be worse. You want to go up from where you are. You call that a bust, though, just for...
Starting point is 01:52:14 No, no, no. See, the problem is this. He is so super talented that right now, where he's at, we would consider this a bust. Right. Right? So he can never be and that he can't be that bad Right there's another I mean unless he's come out this motherfucker 400 and he came in to me Anthony Bennett It's not about him being bad more than the expectations of being a number one pick and having to do all this shit You supposed to be expected to do it's not like you know I'm not saying that the nigga is trash or anything like that
Starting point is 01:52:41 But I'm just saying like that's the expectation that you're put on when it's like, all right, you're a bust because you didn't do blah, blah, blah, blah, in comparison to what you were capable of. Yeah. I mean, his ceiling is, he's a one-time, two-time All-Star right now. Right?
Starting point is 01:52:56 At 23, you can stay where you are right now. Two-time. You got a two-time All-Star. You make three or four more. That would be, to be honest, I'm sorry to say this, if he finished his career being a six-time All-Star, you make three or four more. That will be considered, to be honest, I'm sorry to say this, if he finished his career being a six-time All-Star, that would be considered a bust. That's the bad part. But that's-
Starting point is 01:53:15 With four more in his- But that's how talented he is. Where that is considered a bust for who he is, that's still a Hall of Famer. That's still going Hall of Famer. That's still going to be first ballot Hall of Fame. Which is why. Right? But that's how great he is. He possesses.
Starting point is 01:53:33 He is generational talent. Yep. Yep. He is the Mike Tyson. Yep. Now, we see what happened to Mike. That's what I'm saying. Non-focused.
Starting point is 01:53:42 We see what happened to a non-focused super talent. Yep. Right? The super talent is still going to Mike. That's what I'm saying. Non-focused. We see what happened to a non-focused super talent. Yep. Right? The super talent is still going to overcome. It's still going to overcome. He's going to show up. He's still going,
Starting point is 01:53:52 yeah, he's still going, you know, tap into his ability, but we're saying we need you to be where you have Jordan and all,
Starting point is 01:54:00 you have Jordan, LeBron, them jumping ability and talent. Tap into it Right. You are a freak of Nate. You are one in every 20 year gift You can't do none of that no matter what Vince Carter no matter what you do
Starting point is 01:54:16 The worst the worst you put you put barely anything into the game. You're gonna be a Hall of Famer That's not what we're talking about. We're not you when you finish're going to be a Hall of Famer. That's not what we're talking about. When you finish, you're going to be a Hall of Famer. Yeah. But separation point is what? The mentality. It's the mentality. What kind of jacket is he getting in the Hall of Famer? Is he getting that baller top tier?
Starting point is 01:54:36 What kind of jacket Vince Carter got? I'm just saying, but can he get that top tier elite elite? But that's the separate. What kind of jacket Vince Carter got? Gold. Gold? That's how gifted the person is that You like this is still gold
Starting point is 01:54:53 unfortunately This is a perk this is a personal one this is this is like do you want to be considered? Like This is like, do you want to be considered, like, compared to your peers? Your peers, meaning your talent. Like, some of these guys need to stop looking at the peers that surround them and look at the peers of their talent pool, right? Jordan, right?
Starting point is 01:55:20 You're talking about LeBron. You're talking about the Vince Carters, right? No, he's not a freak of nature. We're talking about freak of nature. We're talking about 46, 48-inch verticals. That means when they come down to being a human, they got... You said Dwight, right? Dwight. Dwight Howard.
Starting point is 01:55:40 Like, when they come down from theirs, they're still sitting at a 42-inch vertical. Right? Those guys, when they're 40 years theirs, they're still sitting at a 42 inch vertical Right those guys like those guys when they're 40 years old. They're still Duncan. Yep, right the free day the human freaks of natures He's one of those guys. Yeah for sure But do we feel like the pelicans leak in the story or wherever this lead came from? It's some bullshit. I mean or is it a sign that they're maybe trying to move on and Gilda your point always if I'm trying to sell you a product, when I, hey, his diet and conditioning is great, he's a Bugatti, like, he's always, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:56:14 Are they hurting themselves? It is a double-edged sword. You know what it is? Send them to me. This is a double-edged sword. You have a generational talent that is not Tapping into his ability that you see You get rid of it that trade right there might ignite that wolf
Starting point is 01:56:34 That's what they're afraid of and that's what you're hesitant that hesitant because they don't know that if they get rid of it He actually turns into the fucking Knight Rider. I mean, well, I'm not gonna turn you're not gonna be the Knight Rider here So you got to do something. I mean, well, he's not going to be the Knight Rider here, so you got to do something. I know. That's the thing. Their fear is like, this nigga going to turn into the Knight Rider as soon as we let him go. Man, it just depends on what you get back for him. 23-6 and shit.
Starting point is 01:56:56 Depends on what you get back for him. You're not getting back a generational player. Now, what if he gets treated, he gets so pissed off, he turns intobe's mind with his ability i doubt it she crazy you'll you'll be surprised what pisses him off because you gotta because it will be in you now it will be it will be in you now no trade for to make me be like now i gotta turn no you should have been that dog like if you're a dog it would be 19 listen. I got I got a hundred million You got enough you got a you got a hundred million thrown at you this that that that probably just settled you it ain't on you It ain't on you if they trade them to where
Starting point is 01:57:34 Say if they don't matter like but it don't matter sometimes when you give up on somebody like like when when when Relationships right when a dude or girl wait wait a lot of weight and the blight I ain't fuck with you fat and then that turned Him into like oh, they go get skinny and they go get skinny and you like damn What the fuck happened to you? That's y'all now she a baddie either but that's what ends up happening to some people sometimes that switch get kicked on You don't know what happens. They might kick that switch on and she's still single. It don't matter Hey, they might kick that switch on Jimmy bowler they might fuck around kick that switch on. They're going to fuck around, kick Jimmy Butler. They might fuck around, kick that switch on, and he turn into something that you wasn't.
Starting point is 01:58:08 Yeah, but I'm telling you, it will show, Gil. That shit, those signs show early. Show them collars. Show them collars. He's shown it. He's just heavy. He's just getting that weight. Where at, dude?
Starting point is 01:58:20 He can't, man, it's that food. Man, that food. That food be. That's what I'm saying. But if food is the only thing. He got to go what I'm saying. But if food is the only... He got to go to Miami. Gil, if food is in the way of your legacy... No, he got to go to Miami.
Starting point is 01:58:30 Your mental is not there, my man. That's like the work being in the way. Gumbo was hot. They say if you can give up your vices for a whole year, you'll see your life turn around. If your vices is weed, work... Some can't do that. ...and video games, and you can't give up none of that shit,
Starting point is 01:58:48 you're like, I can't give up all three. I give up two. GTA 6 is about to come out. It's about to come out. You know how long it's going to be planned? We've been playing GTA 5 for 10 years. We've been playing one game for 10 years, buying one pair of shoes for 30 years. You need to go to Miami.
Starting point is 01:59:04 Come on, man. It's all content. This is all sell. He can go to Miami.. You need to go to Miami. Come on, man. This is all self. Listen, he can go to Miami, right? And they can put him through whatever thing they want to put him through and he go home and eat. It's not going to happen though because it's the... It's his self. It don't matter what city you in.
Starting point is 01:59:19 This is something he has to consciously want to do. He's going to have to look himself in the mirror and say, what? Fuck that. This is between me had to consciously want to do. He's going to have to look himself in the mirror and say, what, fuck that. This is between me and you right here. If Ja can do it, if Ja can do it, he can do it. Like with Joker. You don't think Pat can get him together? People don't realize, when you look at Joker when he first came in and he looked at heavy,
Starting point is 01:59:39 he came back skinny. And the team was like, oh shit, Giannis. When Giannis was looking all skinny he personally came back being they didn't they didn't say oh Giannis you need to get bigger he personally decided that but it's easier to get bigger though it's easier to be in you I'm just saying no no it ain't easier I'm just no it is easier to get bigger no it is watch watch my favorite bigger watch how big I started looking what what you gotta do You gotta consciously wake up eat eat eat eat
Starting point is 02:00:08 Workout workout now put the weights on make sure the carbs and all you still got it You still got to do something there for you not used to doing same be with weight the weight is I've got a no eat Fasting no way I got a I got a workout do a lot of cardio watch what I put in my body You got a taste for everything you see young fella sit your ass Fasting. No eating. I got to work out, do a lot of cardio, watch what I put in my body. You got a taste for everything you see, young fella. Sit your ass down. Hey, listen. Throw them credit cards. Put a muzzle on that motherfucker.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Throw them credit cards away. Throw that phone away. Keep that fridge empty so you don't board eat. Delete that Uber Eats app. Delete Uber Eats. It's the boredom eating. The boredom eating. You done at 11?
Starting point is 02:00:42 Look, you done practicing at 11. Go get a hobby. You done at 11. You sitting you done practicing at 11. Go get a hobby. You done at 11. You sitting and playing video games. That's a hobby. He's streaming. Niggas are streaming, making bread on video games. He probably putting in 5,000, 6,000 calories just like chipping on stuff, eating chips and stuff.
Starting point is 02:01:00 If you rolling up and you smoking Zion, you better stop that shit. That just increased the edible. Sativa. Which is sativa? If you rolling up and you smoking Zion you better stop that shit that just increased the edible to Teva It makes you eat even if your homeboys is smoking in the crib smelling that shit make you hungry anybody love now I need he need he need he just needs to really he just needs to really he just really needs to just you know Like I want to do better. That's all yeah, but you're like you said at a young age like that and like it's people in the channel you're not a kid bro 23 with fucking 200 million dollars you're getting some shit cracking listen for sure that's a fact a lot of people act like oh I could lock in and do this that whatever like you gave 200 million dollars and I only
Starting point is 02:01:39 got a chance to go to the club right go to the club right now on a Friday and Saturday all them about gonna be from the ages of 21 to 27 That's Zion. So if your ass is sitting there taking 12 shots talking about He done game muffled eight pounds So you gonna gain eight pounds off that shit eight shots with drinks then going home eating and come on. That's 100% correct. Probably 100 million. 100% correct.
Starting point is 02:02:07 He done gained 10 pounds. He done gained 10 pounds. In three hours. Yeah, your ass can run through it. You done pissed all night. Nah, not his. Not his weight. That shit sitting on that.
Starting point is 02:02:15 So do we think that Zion will be in the Pelicans' long-term plans? Or are they leaking this shit now because they're trying to see what that market looks like? They're stepping ahead of it. They're stepping ahead of it because you mentioned it. This is like their third time mentioning some weight. And they apparently have the weight clause in that contract extension that he signed that he had to be a certain amount, a certain amount of body fat, or they could start trying to get some of that bread back.
Starting point is 02:02:34 What you're saying about when you're trying to showcase a product and you're trying to get rid of it, don't act like something wrong with the product. No. Don't throw it out there like it's defected or it's been on the shelf a little long. But if you cook it now. I can tell you right now, ain't no organization out there giving a fuck what y'all saying. Are y'all trading them? Or what?
Starting point is 02:02:56 Are y'all trading them? That's all we want to know. Or what? I got some shit for you. Y'all problem is not my problem. I got some shit I want to get rid of. What you want? What you want? Y'all problem is not my problem. I got some shit I want to get rid of. What you want? What you want? Y'all sales.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Come on, Pelicans, be stupid if you want to. Be stupid if you want to. You tell Clippers right now, hey, give us Kawhi Leonard, and soon as, before you finish Kawhi, sold! Sold. Sold. And you get bombed, and be like, hey, have a Kawhi, you're like, sold! Sold! And you get bombed, and be like, you have a Kawhi. Who else you want?
Starting point is 02:03:27 You want Harden? Take him. Frizzine? What? Damn, Gil. That was quick. That was quick. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:03:37 I got it. Because you just said the other day that it was hard to use him. It was tough to get rid of them four niggas. I got a dude who overweight averaging 23, 6, and 5.
Starting point is 02:03:46 He overweight averaging 23, 6, and 5. Your guy healthy averaging 23, 6, and 5. So imagine. Trade. Go. In L.A.? In L.A.? Go.
Starting point is 02:04:00 God damn it. Zion in L.A. not going to get no better. Worst case scenario, him at his bad is 23, 6, and 5. Cool. Zion in L.A. not going to get no better. Yeah. Worst case scenario, him at his bad is 23, 6, and 5. Cool. Him healthy, 23. Hey, I'd be like this. Bomber.
Starting point is 02:04:11 Hey, Zion, listen. I got... I bought you a gold... I bought you a gym. Here it goes. You got your own Equinox. I got all... Whatever you want, I'll do it for you.
Starting point is 02:04:20 I will personally help you. I'll work out with you, my guy. It's just tough getting in there. I think it's you my guy is just because if this is your bottom getting in there But if this is your bottom I'm taking you at your worst They did like look at him. Oh, he's fat belly rolling bouncing up and down and he's averaging 26. I'll take it 23 I'll take it sir. So we asked the chat if Zion was in the pelicans long-term plan 75% said no Let's move on to our final segment of the day mostly fans another spirit to check great Monday holiday season. I
Starting point is 02:04:53 Don't want to do the sexy voice. I'm just friends. I get it together man I can't believe your wife allowed you to do sexy boys. Gil, it's not that sexy. That's what she said. That's what she said. Get your shit right. It ain't that sexy. It ain't that sexy. I do what I want around here. She like, ain't no work in the chat anyway. I was wondering. Ain't no work in the chat.
Starting point is 02:05:14 Very workless chat. She's like, there's a bunch of broke niggas in the chat. There's a bunch of broke niggas in the chat. So we got a two-part question from underdog user Braylon OTE. First, can a coach be greater Hall of Fame coach without winning any rings? Yeah, ain't Don Nelson? George Carl is in there as well. Hit 14 first-round exits.
Starting point is 02:05:40 So, yeah. Yeah. Don Nelson. Y'all, you want to play a game? That's what you want to do, you want to play a game? This is what you want to do? You want to play a game? Yeah. Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 02:05:53 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, shit. But coaching is so different. Like, are you getting the players better? Are you winning championships? I mean, it all depends. Like, if I'm a coach and I don't win nothing, but I done turned everyone into superstars that came through here, like I instilled something into them, right?
Starting point is 02:06:13 They came in, I had you for four years. By the time you left, you know what it is to be a superstar. We didn't win together because I didn't have the team. But I built all these type of talents, and I can live with that. I'm a Hall of Famer. I mean, versus, you know. Like the OKC? Look it up, sir.
Starting point is 02:06:30 What's the difference? Let's say I grab a bunch of top ten kids, and I'm sitting here not teaching them shit, but their talent is winning me championships. I can't sit on that. We talk about it a lot on the show, and that's the thing you see a lot, too, where the coach is going to get the credit for that, bringing those elite levels. So where does that balance come with actual coaching versus, all right, here's what this coach looks like when he's got this elite crew of talent versus here's what this coach looks like. You talk about somebody like a Spoh. We've seen what Spoh has done with elite-level talent.
Starting point is 02:06:57 We've seen what Spoh has done with, you know. Bad. Not so elite. No, no, serious. Like, he's first ballot. He's first ballot. And there's been other coaches that you guys are criticizing on this couch that you feel like when they were given so much talent, they couldn't fuck it up versus. Quick question.
Starting point is 02:07:15 When you think about Spolt, like, he's still going, where do you, where would you rank him? I was about to go that way, that way, too. What? Of all time, or? No, no, no. In comparison to Pop. Not Pop, but like, yeah, Steve, way, that way, too. What? A long time? In comparison to Pop? Not Pop, but like, yeah, Steve, like, you know. Best coach in the league now?
Starting point is 02:07:32 No, overall, Pierce. Just in comparison to what he just did. Is he the only coach that showed you superstar coaching when he has superstar talent? And superstar coaching when he has no yes talent Phil Jackson didn't That's why I say comparison to pop in my in comparison to pop Pop is now faced with plants five or six years with no talent And you couldn't move that lever then you look at Spoh He did the same type of time
Starting point is 02:08:01 He moved that lever a couple different times where he got there with this talent. And it's like, yo, we ain't got one, we ain't even got one all-star. Jimmy was barely the all-star the first year they got there. So it's like,
Starting point is 02:08:14 I look at Spoh as the standard of both sides in comparison to Pop. And I'm like, yo, even right now, 13, were they 3 and 13 or some shit? Do you want to fucking play a game? Yeah, we want to play a fucking game. like, yo, even right now, 13, were they 3-13 or some shit?
Starting point is 02:08:25 Do you want to fucking play a game? Yeah, we want to play a fucking game. Pop, let these motherfuckers play. But what's so funny is with Spurs, I said that. Remember I said that like probably a couple weeks ago. I said, y'all reward losing. And since y'all reward losing, if I'm Pop, why do I want to win? If I ain't going to get another.
Starting point is 02:08:46 Because I know there's gonna be what there's a few euros that's about seven foot also coming through him and Wimby yeah so I'm gonna be clients to just lose this year you don't give me you reward me for this five year they gave him five years before this so yeah oh yeah for the lose in the past years like he go like do some oh I got Wimby what What he's done previously. Yeah, I was about to say, what he's done. No, but what I'm saying is, this year, I didn't have him trying to win games anyway.
Starting point is 02:09:13 I have Wimby, and then I'm seeing who's coming up. There's, okay, we got three seven-footers that can do the same. Give me them two. Yep. Now I got two twin towers and a four and a five that can both put it on the ground. And Vassell is top.
Starting point is 02:09:27 Like, he was number 11 or something in one of the drafts. So he's like a top 10. Yeah, Halliburton, I think, rattled off all the guys. Yeah. So it's like they're picked above him. They collecting all the talent that you're talking about. Okay. Well, it's not a two-part question, but here's the second question.
Starting point is 02:09:42 They're just trying to double up the bag. Because apparently, according to my producers, the the rest of the question the chat were asked Get it together. All right Respectfully get this $50 that we got for you going to your underdog fantasy account Tell me what I'm saying y'all pop is great y'all trippin this say he's trippin. Yeah Okay, so I'm saying y'all got that just say And use my old fucking name. Don't say McCann.
Starting point is 02:10:07 Say Rashad. They need to know it comes from me. This is the Gills Arena family. Rashad hates when people use his last name. If y'all don't know that. The niggas be hating... Got me saying this shit now. They be like, McCann.
Starting point is 02:10:17 I'm like, where the fuck is McCann? Who the fuck is McCann? Who the fuck is this nigga? Y'all talking about... Gills Arena, we are a family. Hey, now, McCann's been so bad. He's like, well, who McCann? I'm a child. I don't be walking up to y'all and be like, who the fuck is McCann? Who the fuck is McCann? Who the fuck is McCann? Who the fuck is this nigga? Y'all talking about? It was Arena. We were a family.
Starting point is 02:10:26 Hey, now, McCann's been so bad. He was like, well, who's McCann? I was a child. I don't be walking up to y'all niggas. Arena's scared. Hey, Jennings. Hey, Jennings. Hey, Jennings. Hey, Jennings.
Starting point is 02:10:34 Johnson. Mr. Johnson. Come over here, Johnson. Come on. That just sounds weird. But I do know when you call Gil Gilbert that y'all are in the midst of getting this. Gilbert? No, it's Gilbert. It's Gilbert a heated discussion. Gilbert? It's Gilbert.
Starting point is 02:10:45 It's Gilbert. When you say Gilbert, it's Gilbert. Full government. Have it. All right, so second question from Braylon OTE. If you had to pick between prime Boogie or prime Dwight Howard, who are you taking? Dwight. Dwight.
Starting point is 02:10:58 Mm. Fuck you thinking about over there, nigga? Man, because Boogie can shoot them threes. Yeah, he could. Man, he can. He can move, too. Not on Dwight. He can move, too.
Starting point is 02:11:09 Huh? Not on Dwight. 30 and 15. Regularly. Man. Man, I'm going to go with Dwight, Howard. But Boogie, though, man. Boogie got it.
Starting point is 02:11:20 I just feel like Boogie, though, with that handle and being able to shoot threes and and pulled the white out and he you know only ball the white was a girl no because I watched him up close that year when we played cuz you know when we played against him right you know you can only see but like being there watching how good he was and dominant yeah he wasn't even was over he was just the year I got, he was just becoming an offensive player. Like, that was the year he just became like, yo, yo, give me the ball down here. You know, that was his first year, like, tapping into the offensive part of the game. Just watching how he just bullied everybody. Defensively, like, I remember he was guarding Shaq,
Starting point is 02:12:05 he's laughing at him. Where you going? Where you going? You out of shape, you ain't the same one. I'm Superman. And I'm sitting here like, he told Shaq that? Oh, that's why they got the, oh. I didn't even know that.
Starting point is 02:12:15 That man, Dwight was strong as fuck, man. Dwight was strong as fuck. He did 500 pushups a day. He was a cyborg. Every single day. Listen, he looks like that for a reason. He takes that shit serious, but just watching how dominant he was, it's like...
Starting point is 02:12:30 Yeah, I played him my rookie year. He come out and he jumps up. He's the only player that I witness. We can be at the one, two, three and have another guard at the four and he's like, just bring everybody
Starting point is 02:12:45 to me we good mm-hmm and we lead on defense let's say this be the white Howard was Tyson Chandler with muscles would afford in vertical because I like Tyson was the first thing I seen blocking shit like the white jumping like that like get that shit out, and then moving like that. But imagine Tyson with fucking He-Man muscles running up and down. Yeah, no, no.
Starting point is 02:13:13 Nigga, what? But Boogie was nice, though, man. Boogie's nice, man. Boogie's prime. Yeah, I'm going with Dwight, for sure. Boogie's more like a Joker style. Yeah, he definitely is. He's more like a Yoko. Yeah, you did more like a Yoko's just like that Deeper back, you know, yeah If they don't fuck around with the Marcus cousins
Starting point is 02:13:34 We ain't talking about Joker like that if they don't fuck around with boogie. I speak it pass like that too, bro Yeah, he could pass like that too. But but but the thing with Joker though like he if we say okay It's let's take away. Yo kids just passing His jimmy's understanding of how he know what I'm saying Just take away his pass and then just his scoring in this rebound. Is he better than no, is he better than cousins? No Mmm, I thought cuz it was better than ad bro cuz it was better than AD, bro. Cousins was better than AD. So I'm like, yo, I'm like, hey, man, Boogie was that guy, bro. He was getting big numbers. We had seen big numbers like that.
Starting point is 02:14:14 I don't know why he can't play now. I think he still is. That Achilles, man. Huh? That Achilles. Slowed him down. When we talk about another guy transforming his body, even looking at Boogie now versus when he came into the league what he looked like
Starting point is 02:14:25 That was a dude who put the work in. Mm-hmm, and you can tell me I said I needs to call Carmelo Anthony Cuz Carmelo like if you look at Carmelo's body it looked like he could have gained weight really fast right and the fact that consciously you can see that He took care of his body and really focused on diet and all that So if I'm Zion, that's who I would call call out Harrington. Like what did you guys do? I was the perfect guy right? Oh, what did you do only guy I don't be afraid like NBA players want to help Yeah, but X NBA player fuck the ones that's talking bad like car
Starting point is 02:15:01 No, boozer like talk to these guys who you look at that look like that they carried body weight but they stayed thin the whole time talk to them ask them what they did of course they they're gonna share kevin love you don't i mean there's so many lm brand lm brand but ucla kevin love was a big boy minnesota he was still still bigger. But he got... It was the threes that brought him to the slimmer. Because if Minnesota would have kept him more of a block player, he would have never trimmed down. He would have been forced to get bigger.
Starting point is 02:15:34 So K-Love stepping out to the three helped him trim down. So he needed to expand his game. Zion, we're praying for you. You're going to get it right. We know. Pull up on us. Summer League. We'll actually have a seat for you this time.
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