Gil's Arena - Lebron James vs Steph Curry: Gil's Pick To Win The West

Episode Date: May 2, 2023

Lebron James vs Steph Curry as Gilbert Arenas breaks down the first round of the NBA Playoffs and previews what's to come!! NBA Topics include...The Boston Celtics loss to the Philadelphia 76ers, Suns vs Nuggets, Warriors - Kings Game 7 and Jimmy Butler's continued dominance through the NBA Playoffs. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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on these couches, a lot of stuff happened. So let's go. Let's run through it real quick because we haven't been here since Thursday. So the fans need to know. Celtics sent the Hawks

soaring to Cancun and Jason Tatum apologized to Janet Jackson for making her postpone her show. She didn't want to game five, came back for game six. Lakers whooped that trick and hit the gritty on the Grizzlies with a 40-point blowout to close out the series, giving Dylan Brooks and them a one-way ticket

to Chilling Hills Island. And Dylan Brooks got some other shit going on, too, we're going to get into in just a second. Steph shut off the beam with a generational game seven performance. Playoff Jimmy didn't let a janky ankle stop him from giving the Knicks that work in game one Harden hit Vegas and five fingers to the face to dude then help the Suns stun the seas without him being it wasn't a slap It was a love tap. We all been there and the Nuggets won their first two games against the Suns and got them looking like the nuns

Don't mean country But now it's time for a new segment. We. It's called Fit It or Quit It. Fit It or Quit It. Fit It or Quit It. So, look at the graphic scene. All right, take those twos back. They get to stay. All right, look at that shit. It's beautiful. So there were some twos in there. Okay, okay. So a big baller descended on the Big Apple for the annual Met Gala. The who's who celebrities dug deep in their closet to turn heads and raise eyebrows. So we're going to play Fit you know, fit it or quit. I'm going to show you all some of the outfits.

And I want you all to let me know if you would fit it or quit it. So let's start with Rihanna, A$AP Rocky. That a fit it or quit it? On who? The woman? Either or. Oh, they fit it because they look good together. Okay.

I'm going with him. He's the fashion guy. Fit it. Yeah, they're just fly. Is that from Scotland. That's our Scotland That's a Scotland Jeans on you need a bagpipe. Oh Killed is what they call it. I mean, it's also the Met Gala too. So it's gonna be some wild fit

So that's what it is. So you supposed to wear stupid shit. Yeah, just wow shit. Yeah, just okay So there's like a theme so there's like yeah, you gotta they try to out some out. Yeah outwild each other Yeah, but it has to be a theme right right? It was for Karl Lagenfeld today. I don't know. I'm a broke boy. I shop at Kohl's. I shop at Rihanna's. I heard there's usually themes.

Yeah, it was for Karl Lagenfeld, who I think passed away recently, but did a bunch of design work. Yeah. Okay, okay. So basically, you get invited if you're doing some wild shit out here. In these streets? Yeah. Okay.

He with Jerry Springer in the upper room. Next up, how can I lose when I'm already choose? Like I spice. Is it hot? Is it making y'all freeze up? Fit it or quit it? Fit it. Fit it?

Ooh. Y'all rocking it? It's normal? I mean, yeah, she's looking better and better every day. Jesus. I want to get to know her a little bit better. She looks normal. I mean, compared to other things I've seen, so yeah.

She getting it. That's cool. For the first time she came out, she came out correct. If simple. We'll call it simple. Yeah, yeah. If it's some outrageous fits, you already know that Russ and SGA gonna pull up and show out.

So we got our boys here. Fit it or quit it? No, I like that. I'm not even gonna lie force For a gala the shit that that we've done seen and we don't seen rust and some shit I mean, I'm like Russ's fit. I like the Russell. I mean shy look like he got a piano This is the first time that yeah, it is the first time that that Russ has been out swagged in a photo No, he's not swag

I mean is coordination. That's some. I mean SJ's shit is coordination though. That's some regular shit you can dress. Yeah. Yeah, that's tunnel for us. That's tunnel rug. Yeah, that's tunnel rug. You got to coordinate. He goes there and wears simple stuff and then be out wilding.

Yeah. And then we also had D-Way, Gabby Union pulling up, our neighbors out here in the valley. What's the concept one band one sound watch the faces though watch them lock in now that was the funniest shit that they go from like oh my god these people are cheering didn't just lock in holes like it yeah I mean yeah a good couple fit fit in and what we have here is called a segue okay for everybody at home this is some real TV

and for that ass So Dylan Brooks Let's see some images He might not y'all just gonna have the nice Outfit y'all not gonna put that wild shit that we see no Instagram on there. Yeah, you know that we just some of that wild I'm not gonna put none of that wild shit up there We're not gonna put you in a position to fuck us up and fuck our bags up cuz I've seen some shit little guys That's a real right. Yeah, right. Right. I seen some shit on the gram. That's what I'm saying.

We seen it. Motherfuckers out there looking like lollipops and shit. I seen some shit on the gram. Looking like the Monopoly man. Next up. All right. We got Dylan Brooks. He might get an invite to the Met College someday.

Maybe. But you know where he's not getting invited back to? What? That Grizzlies facility. Woo. Shams dropped the following tweet about Brooks' future in Grind City this morning. But you know where he's not getting invited back to? What? That Grizzlies facility. Woo! Shams dropped the following tweet about Brooks' future in Grind City this morning. Said the Memphis Grizzlies have informed pending free agent Dylan Brooks that he will not be brought back under any circumstances. Bam.

League sources said. I mean, you could have just said not be brought back under any circumstances. Like every other Hooper retired and we need to fill a roster of 12. He's still not getting a job. The world ended, and we need. On your day off? Like, just exit meet? Like, I'm pretty sure they didn't even get through exit meetings.

Everybody ain't got through exit meetings yet. So that means he just finished his exit meeting. Like, yeah, you know, we're going to go ahead and get, we're going to pass on you returning. That's crazy as fuck. Let's talk about Dylan a little bit. I mean, obviously, we saw the Anderson go ahead and we're going to pass on you returning. That's crazy as fuck. Let's talk about Dylan a little bit. I mean, obviously, we saw the Anderson and the Lakers series. But prior to that, he seemed to be the heart and soul of that Grizzlies team.

We saw the tunnel walkouts, the perms, all that other stuff going on. And now for them to do him like this, report this news like that, let it leak. Did the Grizzlies throw Dylan Brooks under the bus? Yep. Yeah. Yeah. For sure, yeah. I mean, he threw himself under the bus also, but I mean, they could've just let this go and got to negotiate and then just didn't... But the fact that you're putting it publicly for everyone to keep laughing at him is fucked up.

Yeah, yeah. And that's why I say you don't put your trust in no team. No team at all. I mean, throwing him under the bus, I know he did some clown shit. Everybody was clowning him, he did some clown shit. But coming from your own team, it's kind of like, well damn. We're laughing at him personally. Not the Grizzlies, right?

We're laughing at him. So he's already embarrassed. You donzzlies. We're laughing at him. Right, right. So he's already embarrassed. You don't need to throw more embarrassment on him. We're already laughing at the fact that he got his ass busted. He didn't talk to the media after the last three games, and then he was found in Cancun the next day. Was that really him?

I think that's... That was not him. That video might be... Yeah, I'm about to say... But you know We don't ever let the truth get in the way of a good agenda, you know I mean so, you know the fact that he couldn't like he was already being laughed at as an individual Like he's already felt the pressure of you know, when you put yourself out there. This is how you get attacked So for them to say we're going to move on without him,

now y'all look kind of fucked up. Yeah, it's like under no circumstances he's coming back. Yeah, like damn. What the fuck did he do to y'all? That's like damn, bro. Now you feel sorry for him. And he's not the only one. He's not the only one that started all that.

Ja had a lot to do with that. A lot of other players too. Seems like the culture of that team. Yeah, it's the culture of that team. So it ain't just him. So does Dylan Brooks stay on this squad? Because we talked about

this last week. Let me stay on the squad. They already said it. I'm asking you a hypothetical. Let me finish. It was a dot, dot, dot. Y'all talked about it last week. If Dylan Brooks

would have did all that shit and owned up to it, spoke to the media, said, yo, yeah, and I'm still going to keep talking shit. Does this outcome different or is it just we got a clean slate? I think what would end up happening really is I think they're trying to blame him for the way the series went. Right?

They're trying to blame him that, you know, all this attention you brung, all because the series was more about him than it was Ja and the Grizzlies. When you thought about the series, it was Dylan Brooks versus the Lakers. It wasn't, which I thought was amazing because, you know, he took the pressure off of Ja hurting his hand and, you know, the other players not playing very well. So. And some other situations too. Yeah.

That's what I'm saying. There was a lot of shit going on in his on, and his personality on and off the court, in the tunnels and in media, I thought he did a great job of releasing some of that pressure that was being put on him. So for them to basically admit that, okay, we lost, and then we're going to blame it on him. Like, nah, you got it.

Point the fingers. So if they would have won, though, same outcome? If they would have won, nah, he wouldn't have been there. So like y'all are saying, they're literally blaming him. They're literally blaming him. But they're blaming him for something that they were doing all year. It's not like he just started it. It's like they've been doing this all year.

So it's like, okay, y'all been letting it go this long. Now y'all finally want to do something. Y'all should have been saying something, you know, saying like through the year. And it seems like they didn't have a problem with it because all that shit was circular never Running a lot of that stuff on their own social pages. So for now because it looked good. Yeah It's good to be a villain until Until you lose until you lose. Yeah, so is it possible that he was gone regardless of those antics? No, I thought they look if they're to win they were to win, win to the Western Conference Finals

or maybe the championship, no. Nobody would even talk about this. And then what can Dylan Brooks do to repair his image as now he hits free agency and tries to avoid, you know, that Guangdong, Shanghai, get ready to learn Chinese buddy trajectory? What's his numbers? So, glad you asked. He averaged about 10 in the playoff.

So it was a down year for him. Regular season he averaged 14 points, three rebounds, three assists, but shot like 40% from the field, 33% from three. Let me find these. I didn't know he averaged 14. I didn't know he averaged 14. Yeah. In the playoffs he was down.

I mean, averaging 14, you can stay in the league. Yeah, you ain't. Yeah. What's so funny is. Playoffs, 10 and a half, three rebounds, two assists. He's the type of player that LeBron would put him on the scene. Yep. He'd be on.

I was just going to say that. I was just going to say. I could see him going to the Lakers and LeBron. That was the question I was going to ask you. It's a different situation, but we all remember Matt Barnes when he was with the Magic, pumping the ball in Kobe's face. But Matt Barnes is a real one. Obviously, Gilear, our family, y'all know Matt's about that life. Me and Matt went to UCLA together.

So if Matt talks shit, there's going to be some shit that goes down. You know what I mean? Like, he's driving 90 minutes for the fade. He's really about it. But he's not one of those dudes that's always going out there seeking trouble. He was more of the enforcer of the squad. Like when it was the clip where some shit went down, you know, Baca's going to try to swing on him. He's got to just sit there straight-faced

and laugh at him like he's not going to do anything. But Kobe, you know, respected Matt and brought Matt onto the Lakers as a result of that. He respected his toughness. He didn't back down. This seems like a different situation. Dylan Brooks went at LeBron and basically got humiliated. So you see a world where LeBron will bring him in and help maybe salvage his career? Because I think it's a good story. You bring Dylan Brooks went at LeBron and basically got humiliated. So you see a world where LeBron will bring him in

and help maybe salvage his career. Because I think it's a good story. You bring Dylan Brooks in. I know Lakers fans are going to be like, fuck that. We don't want him. But you bring Dylan Brooks in. He plays again at the level he can play at. Kind of shuts all that other shit up. Goes on to do some... So the idea of a star, right?

A star, a superstar. You know, people like Kobe, LeBron, Jordan, right? When you look at the players that were added to their teams, look who it was. It was players that challenged them. Ron Harpers, Dennis Rodman, those type of guys, Ron Artest, Matt Barnes. You're talking about guys who really said, I don't give a fuck if you're Jordan, right? I don't give a fuck if you're Kobe.

I'm going to challenge. I'm going to take the challenge. That lets that person know he's a warrior. So that means if we're playing against Trace McGreedy, he's not going to back down. He didn't back down to me. He's not going to back down to the next superstar. That's how that plays.

So when you're sitting there kissing someone's ass, when we're in a battle, are you going to kiss this ass? Are you going to kiss him and, oh, I'm a fanboy? When you're in war, you don't want no fanboys. We can start with a guy like Pat Biff. You don't want no fucking fanboys. I don't want no fanboys.

But is there anything to it? It's fine. Like y'all said last week, you're going to talk all that shit. You can't go running high when it don't go your way. You can't duck smoke. You can't not talk to the media, walk off after the game. They said he didn't even shower. He left with a stinky booty with the booty shorts on right back to the hotel

after they got knocked out of the playoff. Is there anything different to that? Or should LeBron look at this guy and say, look, this is the dude. Well, I can get him right. Yeah, I mean, well, he didn't have a vet. There's no real vet in that Memphis Grizzlies locker room. So he's not going to have that vet to come to him and tell him, all right, young fella, this happens, this show pass, you know what I'm saying,

own up to it. So he don't have any of that in the locker room. So I think under LeBron or under a superstar, he'll be able to have a better perspective of everything around him. So, question for both of y'all. Obviously, we've got to look into crystal ball, look into the future. Will Dylan Brooks be on the NBA roster next season? He should.

He should. For sure? Average in 14, he should. I didn't know he was averaging. I mean, 14, more of a defender type. Anyone can use that. I mean, listen, he hasn't done anything no one else has type. Yeah. Anyone can use that. I mean, that's, I mean, listen. He hasn't done anything no one else has done. Right.

I mean, we're, I mean, he hasn't done, I mean, we're acting like he's done something terrible. I mean, he just got his ass busted by LeBron James. We're just talking shit. Who else can, I mean, no one else can say they didn't. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like, he's not the first guy.

And is it possible that he could use maybe a season abroad, go away, kind of lay low for a little bit? He's still an NBA player, bro. Come back. I mean, the jumper's weak as fuck. Okay, I get that. Get some shots up. I mean, the legs.

I mean, he's doing a Mary J. Blige, you know, with his legs. But, I mean, you know, for what he does and how he plays, any team can use him that's trying to get over that hump. I mean, look at players like P.J. Tucker. They're still valuable in this league where they're helping secure wins. So let's keep this thing moving. Let's talk about James Harden, L.A. legend. He was at the Met Gala last night in spirit.

I don't know if y'all saw that that game one fit that he pulled up in I'm gonna be real man. I can never get something like this off. That should look heavy as fuck You think he's sweaty sweaty? Oh, yeah, man. That's heavy That's a that's a great a pippa right there. The pins, he got to drag his legs. I'm going to be real with you. That shit weigh at least 12 pounds. If you pull up to a playoff game in that, you have no choice but to cut. You have no choice.

And James did not disappoint. Game one of the Sixers-Celtics Easter Conference semifinal. Embiid sidelined with a sprained right knee. Harden put the team on his back, dropping a career high, 45 points. Ooh, just step back after step back. Embiid, you know, at the Balenciaga. Ooh. This is a clinic, man.

He looked like the Harden of old, I'll just say that. And obviously he shifted a little bit. He don't really focus on the bucket getting anymore, but when Embiid out, it was his turn. And watching that fourth quarter, several times you thought like, something's just gonna take this thing away, pull away. Harden said no, you know. Fourth quarter, under 20 seconds to go in the game. I love PJ Tucker, man.

Look, give him back. Look at Al Horford on him. What do we think was going to happen here? That's a tough shot. I know it is. That's tough because he right there. And on his left hand too. Yeah, I'm about to say, yeah, that's tough.

That's real. So, Gil, you're a prolific scorer yourself. Where do you rank James Harden when we talk about the best scorers in NBA history?

Best? Mm. Shit. Look, okay, what he does well is this, right? Which is, you know, when you're talking about mastering one thing, shit, top two, top three, top three ever, when you're talking about mastering a thing on how you score.

When you're talking about overall scoring, I don't think he has an overall package of scoring. He doesn't post up. He doesn't have mid-range. I mean, not mid-range, but he doesn't have like, he don't backdoor. He don't flare. There's a lot of things he don't do. I mean, he's great at that one thing.

If you take the ball out of his hand, can he still be effective in scoring? With the ball dribbling I saw it oh when it comes to ISO work I mean was it I mean him Jordan Kobe T Mac T Mac yeah I think that yeah Katie yeah is in there let's see but Katie does flares he does back doors He does mid-range you post up so, you know, it's when it comes to overall scoring I don't I wouldn't put him in a top five of overall scoring because those guys are scoring from everywhere on the court

But when it when like I so work, so yeah, I so he's top three I so and even watching that game last night, you know The NBA has an emphasis now on this quote-unquote foul hunting, foul baiting, and James seems to be one of the biggest victims of it because he's driving the cup now. Shit that looks like fouls, and he's great about drawing that contact, punishing defense. They're not calling. They're literally trying to tell and steer him away for that, and I've seen a lot of that, but I see a guy like Austin Reed still getting those calls, but it seems like they're deliberately going after James. But after the Sixers' first round sweep of the nets,

Harden had this to say about altering his game from a scorer to more of a facilitator. Throughout the entire year, people expect me to be the scoring James Harden and the James Harden that goes out there and gets 40, 50 points. And then people talk, oh, you can't win like that. And then I'll go out there and get 20 points and 11 assists. And it's like, well, he's not the old James Harden. So obviously, Embiid is kind of the the question mark in this series but which Harden do the Sixers need to shock the Celtics you know this man it's a double-edged sword you're not even gonna lie um you know your success on how you played the game right averaging 30 you know 54 I mean I. I've went through his numbers and there was one year where he scored 30, almost 45 straight games. I was like, what the fuck is this? Just to show

you the type of consistency, the type of mindset he has. So, you know, when someone says you can't win like this and that man has to, you know, really alter his thought process to play a team game and then it doesn't work, I hate when coaches do that, right? They have this thing of, hey, I don't need you to average 30. Average like 17 and 10, and then when you do it, y'all still losing. You know, you get blamed for it, not the coach that told you to do that. So, you know, with him, it's game by game. You know, my thing is play to your ability and let it go from there.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I would say the same thing. Like, I mean, you know, you're playing with one of the best bigs in the game also. So, you know, I think his game is just maturing. You know, I don't have to go get 30 or 40. Like, I can be the point guard. I can set the table. I can, you know, I can take my shots when I want to and do things. So I think his game is just maturing.

And I wouldn't listen to what anybody has to say at the end of the day. Like, you know, because from your performance last night, you know, we know you can still go do that. So it's not about that. It's just more about just picking your spots and just knowing when to go. I think at this, and at his age, you know, he deals with a lot of injuries, you know.

He's getting older. So it's like a lot of that stuff you've got to save too. Knowing Bede, I mean, knowing Bede, that's what he was supposed to do. Yeah, yeah. Right? If Bede's there, then, I mean, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have been taking all those shots and the ball would have been going to Embiid.

So, you know, it's him being smart enough and understanding the concept of, okay, this guy's out. I have to do more. So let's talk about Embiid a little bit. Sixers guaranteed themselves a split in Boston, which, you know, for the postseason, that's really all you can hope for. They're not, you know, the likelihood of them going up 2-0 possible, but

let's be real. So should the Sixers rest and be game two to give them more time to recover or go for the 2-0 lead heading back to Philly? He has a sprained knee. I mean, I'm going to rest. I mean, it depends on how his knee feels, right?

If it's still sore, then no. We're going to sit, wait for, you know, we get back to Philly and see how it feels then. You know, you don't want to bring him back too early and he retweaks it and then now our home games he's not there for. So, you know, it all depends on how the knee actually feels in that moment in time. I'm going to rest him. I I mean we got the first win. You know, who knows, you know, what was gonna happen but we got that one win. Bringing them back for game three at the home court. You

know, I think it's just, I think it's just best. You know, we'll figure out what happens in game two. So, we could probably win it without him again. So, right now, the way we had it cracking in the first game, I wouldn't probably change nothing yet since our big is like knees tweaking and stuff like that. So I'll just wait until game three. Let's say hypothetically he's around like 85%.

No. No. He's chilling. No, I just chill. I don't even know 85% because 85 can go down to damn 45 quick as shit. Okay. Get him in them 90s at least. So let's talk about the coaching situation here.

Now, y'all aren't the biggest fans of Doc Rivers' playoff coaching acumen. Not at all. But it was obvious that he was running circles around, you know, first-year Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla. Was he? Or was it James Harden just doing ISO work? I think it was James Harden. I think it was James Harden.

I think it was James Harden. I fucking love it. ISO James. I think it was James Harden. I think it was James Harden. But let's look at these Celtics. So Celtics tricked off game five at home. Should have been the closeout. The reason that Janet Jackson had to move her concert from Thursday to Friday. Then they come and trick off game one. So that's two straight home losses if we keep a score.

So what adjustments do the Celtics need to make in game two to actually get a dub and get off that home losing streak? I told you I don't I don't I don't like them. I Don't I don't I don't I don't like their lineup. I really don't um You got two you got two point guards that don't do shit for me like I think they got or outscored 71 to 16 in their position Hey I think they got outscored 71 to 16 in their position. Man. 71, like, in a guard position, 71 to 16. How do you make that?

You can't make that. That has to fall on somebody else. So I just don't like it. It should be him or Smart. It shouldn't be both of them. Because you're not giving me enough offense, and obviously you're not doing enough defense for you both to be on the court doing the same thing.

So one should be coming off the bench, and Brogdon should be in. Okay. Like, that's the balance. You have two defensive players, or whatever the fuck them two do, coming into, you know, playing against two guys who don't play defense, right?

James Harden and Max, you really don't, like, they're not defensive stoppers, but I don't have to play defense on smart. I remember when I first said that, a lot of people didn't understand, right? Because they're listening to analysts talk about defensive players. I am a score, right? We're scores. And I'm playing against a guy who only plays defense. I'm telling you what I do on defense.

I don't have to do shit. He's not going to score, so I'm just going to get my rest. No matter how many times he picks me up full court, Eric Snow, when I'm on defense and Eric Snow's on offense, I'm getting my rest in. He's not doing anything to me for me to actually run around. Now, when I had to play fucking Mo Williams, different story. He's going to put me through four or five pick and rolls and do all this. Now I'm getting tired. So when you just have guys on there that's just there for defense,

that offensive guy he's there to stop is only playing one-side basketball. We should also mention Chew Brogdon played 34 minutes in the game, came off the bench. You say, increase that. Sub. Just sub him. Just sub him. Give him a little bit more.

Tell him he should be at like, because he needs to off, like Brogdon's scoring has to offset the James Harden or Maxie. If not, Maxie and them are just resting on, they're just doing this on defense. Oh shit, I can't wait to get back to offense. James Harden or Maxie. If not, Maxie and them are just resting on, they're just doing this on defense. Oh, shit, I can't wait to get back to offense. And what's the game plan for the Celtics against the Sixers with Embiid and without Embiid? You got a plan for it both ways. Good luck with Embiid.

I think they're better defensively when Embiid's there. Because it's a better, like playing against Harden one-on-one, that's kind of a difficult matchup. Because you don't want to put Jason Tatum on him because he's going to put him in foul trouble.

You don't want to put Brown on him. So then you have Marcus Smart who's a little bit smaller and James Harden's gotten smarter against him. Like he don't bite off those little push-offs. He didn't do that last game where he got a bunch of offensive fouls from fucking was smart. So

When you're talking about in B, they can load up easier and be versus loading up on James Harden So, you know, yeah, they can call the paint more knowing that you know in beat is on Do the long pump fake at the three, drive left, try to do a little step back. That's an easier guard for the Celtics when Embiid is the focal point. Then versus Harden sitting there bopping everybody going by and then from there the game becomes easier. So knowing everything we know about Doc, obviously Sixers take this game one. You nervous at all for you're the Celtics?

Or you're like, oh, don't worry. If we go down 3-1. If we go down 3-1, shit. Doc going to start the game all ISO. He going to do the same shit everywhere. He not going to try to change shit. All right, well, let's take this thing out, Wes. We got to talk about our favorite light-skinned hooper, Steph Curry.

I'm a LeBron guy, but it's hard to not look at what Steph did in Game 7 versus the Kings, knowing how ass the Warriors have been on the road all season. Come through, cut off that beam, shut off that beam. Your rent's due. One of the most generational performances in his career. Dropped a 50-piece, set an NBA record for the most points in a game seven. That's tough. He can't even see the rim. No.

Like people do know that. He cannot see the rim. I don't think people understand that. Like he's stepping back on a 6'8", 6'9". All he needs is a glimpse, man. I'm not going to front. Like half the time he's looking down. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's looking down. He's looking at. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's looking down. He's looking at feet shifting feet. I

Mean it's just wild. It's wild to watch and now watch the highlights of Like how does that happen with a mouthpiece hanging out his mouth And a hug that's probably the most disrespectful part. I put your mouthpiece in dog So before the game, Steph gave the entire team a motivational speech. A lot of guys on the team, like Draymond, said they had never really seen Steph like that. Only problem was, only Steph and Kevon Looney listened. But that was all the Warriors needed to get the rest of the dudes to let him down. But when we talk about Steph, Steph coming off his first finals MVP, fourth last year, a lot of Warriors fans have been talking a lot of shit on Twitter

saying that this is Steph's era. So Gil, I'll start with you. Is this the Steph Curry era? Era? For the last, what's this, 2015, 16? I mean, I don't know how many players can say they dominated in the last six, seven years. I mean, you know, era's a decade, right? Yeah, 10 years. Yeah, but it starts from 10 to 20, 21 to 30. Okay. For the last, what, eight years? Yeah.

I mean, he's been that man. He's been that dude. So since what, 2013, we'll say? 2014, 15, from that season. Yeah, he's been that dude. Okay. Like, it's impressive. Oh, for sure.

Like, more like it's impressive. Like, what he's been doing is impressive. Is it his era? Didn't I just fucking tell this man? You said it's impressive, Gil. 2010 to 2020 is a decade. I'm familiar with it. So from 20...

Are you counting to 10 to 20? Yes. Or 15 to 25? 10 to 20, 21 to 30. That's how the decade is. So from 10 to 20, it was Steph's era I mean is him or LeBron with both oh yeah 10 to 20 LeBron what for championship or father's in the block so Kawhi's with two or two I mean yeah I'm just telling

you it's a lot of people in that it's a a lot of people in that. There's a lot of people in that. There's a lot of people in that. But I think LeBron got the award for decade player over Mayweather. Decade athlete. I think he was the decade athlete. So we're in a new decade. But do you just kind of buy a window too? You can't say from 2014 to 2024? That era?

Yeah. Okay. I mean if we just shift the era, if we just shift it to make it make sense yet, then yes. That's what I said from the last eight years, yes. He's been him. You've been that dude. Yeah. And that's the thing. Some people have pointed out, comparatively, Steph's had this great run since around

2014, but when you look at other greats, their primes were longer. But Steph's still climbing at 35 years old. Kind of, you know, giving me your point about being better than Steph at age 25. Early part of his career, I won't say it was bad, but ankle injuries. Yeah, that's the only thing that hurt.

That hurt Steph's resume is when he was starting off, even though he was really good, he was, you know, he missed some games, you know, missed them the whole season because of his ankle. And you're talking about a guy, you know, he missed some games, you know, missed damn near a whole season because of his ankle. And you're talking about a guy, you see how he moves, that's very important for him. So, you know, some of the beginning of his era, the reason, but that's the reason that his, that the Golden State were able to pay Kevin Durant and all that because Steph's contract was, was it 60 million? Drew Holiday made more than that.

I think it was like 11 for 44. Yeah, it was a horrible contract. It was like four for 44, some shit like that. So it was, you know, because of that ankle, they got him for cheap. But what he's done since then,

God damn, because we were on here last week apologizing to him. Look, I'm a LeBron guy. Even as a LeBron fan, if you don't have respect for Steph, you don't really understand basketball. We cannot like Steph fans, but what Steph's doing...

He can't like his fans. We don't need to fuck with the fans, but you got to fuck with Steph and what he's doing because it just keeps happening. If you're great, you have annoying fans. How about that? If you're a great... Oh, LeBron fans are assholes, too. Don't get me wrong. Jordan fans. All delusional. Kobe fans.

We got a bunch in that studio over there. But Steph fans kind of younger, more internet age, more create fake accounts and talk reckless. Just not a lot of the shit that we had growing up where if you said something, you had to stand on it. It's coming from me. I'm not putting an avatar and talking wild and then hiding behind. Oh, Gil, I'm your buddy. Like, nah. Like, say it and mean it.

But after the 50 piece, a lot of people out there moved Steph into their top 10, said he's the best point guard ever. So, Brandon, I'm going to start with you. Where does Steph rank all time in your mind? Well, for me, I'm going to go by, I'm going to go off who I saw play. I didn't see Magic play. I was born in 89. I didn't see Magic play at all.

So, you know, I'm not going to put Magic in my top five just because I can't. I'm not going to say, oh, I looked at some highlights and Magic was there. So, you know, I have Steph in my top five, Mike, Kobe, LeBron, and then I'm going to go Shaq. Okay. So that's my top five. Okay. And I got KD coming off.

Okay. That's a hell of a top five. Yeah. You're a little bit older. Yeah, yeah. So I've watched Magic. He was him, right? When you're talking about that fast break, understanding the –

like they were moving just as fast as the kids are today. Between him and Norm Nixon, two point guards. Two point guards in the same game averaging 19 and 20 assists together. Right? So you can see how back in the time game averaging 19 and 20 assists together. Right? So you can see how back in the time where you had to shoot, you get the ball, and you had to score. There was no dribble, dribble, and that player still got that assist. Do I have him over Magic? That's my next question.

They say Steph's the best point guard ever. Okay. Unfair to both men when you're talking about when Magic played, it was point guard, right? The point guard had a job to do. That was get the team involved, make sure the players got the ball in the right position. It's evolved since then, right? It's evolved and the scoring guard, the scoring guard became the new thing. So when we look at Magic versus Steph, Magic is going to have the passing, the court vision, that type of game over Steph. Steph is going to have the scoring part of the game over Magic. Me, because I'm a scorer, of course I'm going to have Steph in front of Magic because with

his, 1-6-9, so obviously you're supposed to look over the fucking defense, but Magic did his thing. The stuff Magic, the passes Magic made then, no one's doing that today. I mean, still today, they're not doing that today. But when it comes to Steph with his size, footwork, IQ, the way he plays the game, it kind of does put him over Magic all around because he just does it different. I mean, it's just a different way of doing it. You're not talking about somebody who has an advantage over everyone

in his position. Magic had an advantage. He was bigger. He was taller. That's an advantage. A guy who's 6'1", 6'2", you're talking about the fine details of the game where you said that he can't even see the rim half the time. He got six, eight, six, nine guys trying to stop him from shooting. He's still getting it off. You've seen the floater. He did a floater from, you know, seven feet, ten feet outside the lane, backboard. You know, like moving fast. So you know how, like the touch you got to have for that to be.

It's just the little things that make Steph great I don't think people have paid attention to. Yeah. Right? And it's the details and his finishing. Because when he came into the NBA, one of his weaknesses was dribbling and finishing around the rim. Now that's his strength. Yeah. Yeah.

You know, so I have him number one. So, I mean, here you're talking a lot about the offensive side. But what about the defensive side? You mentioned Magic 6'9". You mentioned. You'9". Relax. You got to play a little D in this game. But I'm just saying, Magic's versatility, coming in rookie year, Kareem down, being able to put up a 42 piece.

So being able to score when needed. When needed. We're never scoring the level of Steph, but also being able to defend multiple positions. You're 6'9". Okay. You should be able to stick to one, two, three, four, and five. So is there anything to that in this debate? Steph much, two, three, four, and five. But is there anything to that in this debate? Steph much better

shooter, Magic better on the defensive side. Nope, not rolling. I just think too, it's like impact. It's like the impact you have on a game. To be in the top five, it's like, are people dying to watch you play? I mean,

yeah, but I don't... Yeah, yes they were. He's a... The problem with... He's a culture. He's the culture... But this is also during the era where he's the only person we're watching. So that's how big I am.

Right. Right. When TV came with Magic, it was Magic and Bird. So we got to really just focus on his greatness. That's what made him great. But outside of that, he was great. Like, the things he did was great, yes. But, I mean, when you're trying to put an overall package together,

it's just the little things that Steph does at his size. It's like, yeah. Are you talking about Steph dealing with injuries coming into his career. Magic's career obviously cut short. But if you think if Magic played longer, this conversation would be different. Yeah. I mean, didn't he miss a whole year, came back, won MVP of the All-Star Game? Yeah.

But he came through, dropped a triple-double with HIV, which to me is still one of the most impressive things in the history of basketball basketball when I say people think I'm joking promise you wait stop yeah promise you bro stop promise you that's not a big deal no in those times no was going down no you kill you trippin you tweet where you telling me early 90s what was the HIV burning dinner so I'm just saying sure what they were just cuz you have it don't mean it affects your game but Early 90s? Was the HIV burning then or something? I'm just saying. They were tapping out. Just because you have it don't mean it affects your game. But they were dying.

I know somebody who scored 45 with chlamydia. What are we talking about here? People were tapping out. It'd be comparable in this day and age to getting some serious Rona and going and running a marathon. No, no, no. Rona's different. That's the fact. I'm just saying.

I mean, you're talking about, yeah, he had HIV, came out and had 50. Like, all right, that's what's up. Like, how's that up there? But back then, though, that's crazy. Back then, yo, not now. People were dropping dead. Not now. Okay, all right, all right, all right.

I'm just saying, like, the stigma and what was going on back then and how it was fucking up people's bodies, magic was literally one of the only people I ever saw get healthier. Like, you saw healthier Magic, and Magic's still here chilling. Like, you know what I mean? Okay, facts, okay, facts. Okay, all right, all right. Yeah, you remember in 91,

when that shit was announced, if you look back at that press conference, people thought, damn, Magic's done. Yeah, no, no. Like, he's out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? And then people were like, damn,

do we have any mutuals? Like, it was a lot of like, oof. Yeah, yeah, no, you got it. There was a lot of nerve in it. You're right, you're right, okay. So I'm just saying from that standpoint. Due to the overall thing of people were like, damn, do we have any mutuals? It was a lot of like, oof. Yeah, yeah. There was a lot of nerve in it. You're right. You're right. Okay. I'm just saying from that standpoint.

Due to the overall thing of people were dying. Okay. For him to be able to come back, do that, play, and obviously he tapped out in career coaching and obviously opened the Magic Johnson Theaters and Baldwin Hills, Unlimited Strawberry Soda, his greatest contribution in my mind. Unlimited Strawberry Soda's in the head, Gil. It was not happening until Magic did it. But look, I saw some chat on NBA Twitter last night.

And normally I don't like to bring that stuff here. But I have to ask some real hoopers so we can put this to bed. Who had the better performance? Steph's 50-piece against the Kings, I think 25th-ranked defense in Game 7. Or Harden's 45-ranked defense in Game 7. Or the game-winner on the Celtics, 5th-ranked defense without a B, or Harden's 45 and game winner on the Celtics, fifth-ranked defense without him being. Mind you, Game 7 and Game 1.

Is it even worth a discussion, even in the barbershop? I mean, you can make a discussion for both. I mean, obviously a Game 7, 50-piece on the closeout game, on the road, very impressive. I mean, that's number one, right? Okay, that's easy. I mean, we can make an argument that, I mean, one motherfucker's in Vegas

at the strip club, you know, chilling. Come back! He's chilling, and let's just be honest. The narrative was already written. All these reporters already had they fucking James Harden fit like they already had their James Harden taglines Ready to be printed. So the pressure of him coming to perform Was a lot for him personally

Because if you'd had if you come on if you'd had a 17 and they are lost by 30 James Harden was killed and that was probably the expectation going into the game. Yes. He was going to be murdered in the Wednesdays. Yeah, for sure. Right? So the fact that he came and he did what he did, basically had to rewrite everyone's... I mean, the New York Times had to probably erase all the shit that they were getting

ready to say. So, I mean, for him personally, that was big. I'm going to go with Steph's just off the fact that he was averaging 30 the whole series. Like he was averaging 30 the whole series and then to put the team on your back game seven and go win a game. Because if they lose that game, we don't know what's next for the Warriors yet. So they're still going. So I think that was just big for him and

his resume. But also, I mean, yeah, James' performance was big. It was game one, but I want to see what's going to happen in the next series. Like, is he going to be able to keep... See, this one, it comes with the like, okay, well, is he going to keep doing it like this or is he going to go back when Embiid comes?

He's going to go back when Embiid comes. So it's like, I think that's what he's going to have to deal with. But to me, I would just keep going. I wouldn't stop if I'm James, though. Because if you can average 40 in this series, then yeah. Then it's a whole better... I think him being the focal point, Embiid taking the backseat a little bit, I think it helps them. Like, Embiid hasn't beat Boston, playing it his way.

So Embiid needs to take the backseat today? In this series. Okay. In this series because Embiid has shown that he can't beat Boston. Like, the Boston's going to whoop that ass every time y'all played, you know, if y'all played in the playoffs. So, obviously, they load up on you for a reason. So, if you have a guy who can go out there time y'all played, you know, if y'all played in the playoffs. So obviously they load up on you for a reason. So if you have a guy who can go out there and create his own shot,

let him go first and then you get whatever's left over. It's just one of those, it might be just one of those series where he has to take a back seat and then the next series is Embiid's series. Right, right, right. Okay. I mean, I'm going to go with Steph as well, but with the caveat people were talking about, oh, he was stat-padding in garbage time, but he's the reason thatid series. Right, right, right. Okay. I mean, I'm going to go with Steph as well, but with the caveat people were talking about, oh, he was stat-padding in garbage time,

but he's the reason that there was a garbage time. Like, the reason that the Warriors went up was literally because I had fucking just busted your ass, so I'm going to get some more points off this. I don't got a problem with that. No, I mean, listen, Game 7. Game 7. It's Game 7.

Game 7 on the road. It just, that's it. Same point I used to make with LeBron back in the day, though, when it's like, oh, motherfucker, stat-padding in the finals. Like, do you know how stupid that sounds? for you to tell me a human being is stat padding in a game seven of an NBA final? Listen, I don't even know what stat padding means, right? Listen, if I have 50, right, and there's three minutes to go, and I'm still in the game,

I'm trying to get 60. Right, yeah. Period. I'm trying to get 60. Right, yeah. Period. I'm trying to get 60. Come on, people. If there's a million dollars on the flow, right, and you can carry 200,000, at the end of the day, you're going to keep trying to get more.

Right? This is facts. Like, I'm just starting stuff and shit. So this idea, there's just this idea of pat, like your stat patting. There's no such thing. So I'm going to's just this idea of pat, like your stat pat. There's no such thing. So I'm going to give you the square definition

of stat patting. Okay. And this is coming from the squares. An action that improves a player's statistics despite being of little benefit

to his or her team or his chance of winning. I'd say that that... Oh, so when a score is 0-0 and I score 10, we don't, there's no benefit

of winning at that point in time, but I just got 10 points. But the wild thing to me is, we've seen games go south. We've seen leads be blown. So, if you take it from 20 to 30, they would say that's stat padding. Like, we haven't seen 20 go to

0 on the wall. So, do anyone ever call stat padding on the opposite team? Right? A guy has 10 points, right? His team is down 30, and the star is in there still scoring to get his numbers. They say that. No, they don't. They only do it to winners.

They were accusing Trae Young of that early on in the Hawks. Listen, I can tell you this right now. I mean, well, take me out the game then. No, no. Or stop it. Like, if you're the defense. Or just take me out the game. Like, I'm not going to be up here just running around.

Yeah, I'm supposed to. And I got to open shots. Like, I got 50. Oh, I'm a. Yeah. No. I'm supposed to. And I got open shots. Like, I got 50. Oh, I'm a, I don't want them to say I'm playing. Yeah, get two. I'm going to try to steal that bitch four. Like, no, I'm getting my points. I mean, that's something, obviously, I never played in the NBA.

You gentlemen have. That's something that's always bothered me because it's come from people who have never hooped at a high level. And like, how difficult it is to actually get a bucket in a basketball game. I'd imagine it's pretty, like they're not just saying, oh, it's Gil, go ahead and score. It's Gil. They're probably mad because they're over and under.

Listen, I don't give a, listen, I'm telling you right now. If there's a defensive player in front of me, I'm trying to score. Every time. Right? So if you're the opposing coach and you know I'm still on the court, right, I'm going to score. You put a weak motherfucker on me, I'm still on the court, right? I'm going to score. You put a weak motherfucker on me, I'm scoring. I remember when I had to play against, I was playing the Hawks,

and I got Jason Terry in foul trouble, right? First two plays, boom, boom, he's out. Then Corey Benjamin had to guard me. Two fouls, he's out. Then they had to put Dan Dickow on me. Why you running Dan Dickow? Get slandered. Ain't no more offense.

No more offense. One four flat. I got dead dick out. This is, now this is called fat patent because there's no way I'm not going to

shoot the ball every single time and I had to go to the bench. I remember Antoine complaining, shut the fuck up, man. I got dead dick out

on me, man. I got dead fucking dick out. Is that what you told him? Yes, I got dead dick out. Like, what if they put a third string three, four man on you? You'd be mad as shit if I shot the ball. So don't even talk to me about no plays. I got Dan Dickow.

I'm going to keep shooting until they sell them off me. Dan Dickow or anybody in Dan Dickow's family, if you're watching this, this is a part of the game. You're in Gil's arena. These things happen. I'm just saying that, you know, game you and gills arena. I'm not happy I'm just saying that you know you if a week like I hate this when you you are top score It's just like playing against a girl right? I got a girl guarding me, and I'm not trying to score What?

Buster I'm busting her ass Elena beer How do I supposed to make you better if I take it easy on you? No. This little dude that got to guard me, this third string, at some point he's going to be a threat, right? So I'm going to try to murder him today. So, Steph, do you. Do you. Or take me out the game.

No, don't take me. If I got 45 and it's like four minutes. Give me my 50. Saying all that, well, then take me out if the game is over. I've asked you all this before, but how much you have 49? How much is the difference between 49 and 50? A lot. A lot.

A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. A lot. 50. A lot. A lot.

There's just certain numbers that just work more. Yeah. It's like 50 is worth more than 53. Some of them are like, I got 51, 52. Like 50 just hits better than 51, 52. 55, yeah, it's better. 55. 60.

Yeah, in between numbers, it's like. So 61 and 2, that's just 60. Yeah. When you drop 55, how much did you think you should have had in your head? 60. Okay. I should have had 60 if I would have had five points in the first quarter. We only had it in three. So if I would have scored five your head 60? Okay, I should have 60 if I would have five points in the first quarter Yeah, we had it three if I was score five points in the first six. Were you salty afterwards? No, I was

Rookie record. Yeah still My pop after a good game is I'm over you should have had 40 like okay what you had? That's like getting 28 20. Yeah, I need 30. Just give me that 30 So I got some breaking news, Gil, and you're going to be excited about this. We got almost 7,000 people in the chat. We are 3,000 people away from getting Gil to hit that blood. Hey, come on, y'all.

Come on, man. We right here. Y'all not doing good enough. Tell your friends. We need three more. We need three more thousand. Three more thousand. Three more thousand. Spark this thing. So we got a couple more things to talk about, but I wanted to get your opinion on this. After the Warriors' season-clinching win, Draymond took issue with Sabonis' decision to not shake hands.

Lost a lot of respect to Sabonis. You don't shake guys' hands after you lose. I don't respect that. I once left the court when we lost in Game 7 of the Cleveland Cavaliers, and I went to my locker room and I sat down and I said, this don't feel right. And I walked back out on the court and I showed everybody love. You lost.

Deal with it. Pay your respect. That was whack to me now Brandon I know you aren't the biggest fan of dudes doing podcasts but I feel like Draymond has a whole certain other level of just insight and knowledge

and I think he's earned as a four time champion the right to do a podcast I'm just saying but everybody don't get a podcast I'll give you that one I agree with that one. That's the one I agree with so far. That's actually Hooper right now. And he's funny.

So that's my favorite part about it. But let's just keep in mind. So Draymond talked about 2016 after they lost, coming back, shaking hands. But let's fast forward to 2018. This is the same Draymond that refused to shake hands with Tristan Thompson after the Warriors swept the Cavs and then reportedly told him, we ain't cut the same. Reports are they linked up a few months later and found out what the cutting was looking like and all that good stuff.

But questions start with you, Gil. How disrespectful is it to not shake hands after a playoff series ends? It's a double-edged sword. Like, I mean, it all depends on the relationship you have with the other side, right? Like, you just kicked me in my motherfucking chest. You think I want to shake hands with you? I don't want to fucking shake your hands. Really, like, come on.

You just kicked me in my chest a few nights ago, and I'm supposed to come in here and shake your hand? Like, nah. But, you know, coming from Draymond, he's already been in that situation where, you know, he lost. He didn't shake their hand, and he had to think about it and went back and shook their hand. So, you know, he has a right to say that because he was once Sabonis and did that and actually went back and did it. So, coming from him, it's more respectable. Me, I don't know if I ever shook hands. Yeah, I'm not really a big shaker hand after I win. I don't care.

Or a win. You don't want to shake my hand when I win. I'm fucking dumb. Yeah, I'm about to say, even when I win, I'm not looking for them. I'm looking for the players, say, what's up, boom, boom, like, my teammates, and I'm out. Like, I'm trying to figure out where did this shaking hands come from? Because, like, if I'm shaking someone's hand, it's usually probably the other star player or whoever my friend was on the other team.

But for the most part. Yeah, that too. If we're not friends, then I don't know. Like, if I don't talk to you, I don't care. Like, I'm not. You kick my ass. Like, fuck you. Yeah, good don't care. Like, I'm not. You kick my ass. Like, fuck you. Good game.

Bitch. Like, when I busted Utah's ass for the game, ain't nobody shaking my hand. Right. That's Utah. You were in Utah? Phoenix Suns, the 54, ain't nobody shaking my hand. Was that in Phoenix? 60, nobody shook my hand.

Any game winner I've ever had, no one shook my hand. But was that in Phoenix? Yes. Phoenix was moving differently back then. What I'm saying. Arizona had to stay and We lost some other shit back in those times. When I hit the game winner and the Bulls, and we all

celebrating, ain't nobody shake my hand. Yeah. Especially now... Shaking hands is that high school bullshit that you were forced to do. Everybody lined up. In college. Boom, boom, boom. That's that shit. Good game. But I like the not shaking hands. I feel like it should be more... You should take it more personal. I don't want it like... I already said what's up to you before Good game. I like the not shaking hands. I feel like it should be more like, you should take it more personal.

I don't want it like, I already said what's up to you before the game. As soon as the game started, uh, uh, uh, uh, shook hands. After that, I was like, alright, man, fuck out of here. Good win. You bust my ass. Okay. See you next game.

I don't understand the concept of shaking hands after a game. I remember it in high school and college. Yeah, you have to. In the NBA, it's like the only time you shake hands, you're shaking hands with your friends. Plus, I'm getting money. I will point out, though, in those high school and college handshake lines, that's where you talk your shit.

We've seen it in the women's tournament. I got your bitch right here. That's where you get it off. I thought they stopped. I mean, I'm pretty sure if it stopped in the NBA, it must have stopped in like the 60s, 70s, 80s

when, you know, players are still knocking players out. I think they got mad at Brian when he didn't shake Orlando's hand. Remember when he walked out? Uh-huh.

When you're in Cleveland, they got mad about that, but it's like... The Pistons back in the day with MJ. You know, I just, you know, I don't know. You just got to be careful. So does that make you look like a bad person because you don't shake somebody's hand after a game?

Whenever there's a game over, right? Imagine you're hitting a game winner. The other side, they're already walking to the locker room. One side is here. One side is here, right? These guys aren't coming all the way over here to shake hands to go all the way back that way. They just walk out the exit. Just walk out the exit.

The only person that's still on the court is the person that, like even with James Harden, you see that they're sitting on the court and be like, yo, man, go to the locker room already. Yeah. Like the coaches don't even shake hands. I remember when Scott Stassi used to be like this. Yeah, he did. Like, all right, bye. Like, you know, I'm not saying, hey, coach's good.

You know, like coaches. Yeah, you had a better game plan than me. Yeah. Since we're on the subject, how do y'all feel about, all right, you're on the losing team going in the winning team's locker room to give them that extra congratulations? Who's done that? You have to. Draymond said he did that.

No, he went back on the court. It happened in college this year. I think Jerome Tang at Kansas State after, what was it, Florida Lane, one of them teams beat him. He was in the locker room like, oh, great job, guys. It all depends. I've been thinking that's some trying to go viral shit, man. Trying to go viral.

I think even the shaking hands, it just trying to get more TV time. Man, you ain't talking about nothing. What y'all talking about? I think I went in the locker room once. I did some dirty shit. I did some dirty shit on the court. Like clip. It was like, yeah, I was a big clipper.

You do some cheap shit to me, I'll clip you. Then I went into the locker room, like, yo, I just want to say my bad, man. I was on some other shit. My bad. You know, one of those. I got the fuck out of there. I think if you're at a big enough level, that's fine. Obviously, like.

And then when I want a jersey signed, watch out. Hey. Hey. T-Max signed this shit. I did that a lot. After a win or a loss? Win. After you won.

Some losses, but I had a good game. What? You got to think of it. It's an art to get in your jersey sign, right? You know what I mean? Like, if I whooped your ass, you don't want to sign. So, it has to be one of those things. If I whooped your ass, but you had a good game, you're going to sign it.

Y'all won, and I had a good game? Come on in there. You just go ahead and sign that. Yeah. You feeling good about yourself? Go ahead and sign it. I'm going to say, yeah, I knew I was nice when Gil asked me for my shoes. Y on in there. You just go ahead and sign that. Yeah. You feeling good about yourself? Go ahead and sign it. I'm going to say, yeah, I knew I was nice when Gil asked me for my shoes. You don't want it.

As a rookie. Yeah. Who said no to you when you tried to get the jersey signed? Kevin Garnett a few times. A few times, Gil? A few. We said, get the fuck out of my face. That's what I said.

It had to be one of those. He had to win, and I had to have a good game where I want your jersey still. But even with the win, knowing KG and his history, like, we think about that Joe Camino story, he could have easily been like, get off my dick, Gil. No, no, no, no, no. That was the first couple times. That was the first couple times.

And Allen Iverson, too. Chuck. Like, Chuck is the funniest motherfucker. You'll be talking to Chuck, he'll look right through you. NBA players will be talking to this man, and he don't even see you there. And I used to try to talk to him, like, yo, Chuck. And he just looking. And then when I made my All-Star game, there was one of them that was like, hey, man, AI, can I?

He's like, oh, what's up, Gil, man? Welcome, man. Welcome. You my All-Star game, there was one of them that was like, hey man, AI, can I... So what's up, Gil, man? Welcome, man. Welcome. You finally All-Star. What? He was like, yeah, I wasn't talking... If you're not on my level, man, I ain't talking to you. That's the bar. You could tell AI fucks with you by the amount of hugs he'll give you in one second.

How many handshake hugs within the course of one conversation or interaction. But it's one of those things where, like, it's, you know, it's really levels, right? Like, and, you know, it was one of those things where until you get to this level, I don't know you. Get to this, get into this door, then we can have conversation. I like that.

And, you know, I like that. Well, look, we're about an hour into the show. We really wanted to make sure the chat built up. We want to get all the bodies in here. And now it's the moment we've all been waiting for. It's the conversation that we need to talk about. So the WGA may be on strike, but the NBA script writers are hard at work.

And they came through what could be the final battle of the two greatest players in this era. I already asked you before, it was the Steph era. You said LeBron and Steph. We've got that matchup now. It's here. It's here. Starting tonight.

Steph fans, y'all been talking a lot of shit. I've been waiting for this moment. Unless it goes the other way. And in that case, more power to you. But words Coach Steve Kerr had this to say about the LeBron versus Steph rival, if you want to call it that. Well, four finals matchups, you know, that's what it's all about. That's the apex of NBA basketball.

And so the two of them meeting four times, you know, at the highest level, that's what rivalries are born out of. That's, you know are born out of. That's magic and bird. That's the matchups we think about in NBA history. So I'm going to ask both of you. Brent, I see you getting them off. I respect it. But before we look ahead,

let's look back at those matchups that Steve Kerr speaks of. So let's go 2015. Steph had a solid NBA Finals. Andre Iguodala leads the Warriors to the chip over the injury-depleted Cavs. Wins Finals MVP for locking up LeBron. Just for those who forgot. Locking up. Don't say locking up LeBron.

I'm getting to my next paragraph. Okay. So LeBron averaged 36-13 and nine assists, leading both teams in points, rebounds, and assists, and received four, I believe, of the 11 finals that he posted. Only four? I want Iguodala. Ah!

So, 2016, Steph wins unanimous MVP, but falls victim to the greatest comeback in Hoops history as LeBron and Kyrie will the Cavs back from a 3-1 deficit against the best regular season team in NBA history. 27 to 2018 KD years, back-to-back finals MVPs, don't need to really mention it. 2021, LeBron dots Steph's eye to lead the Lakers over the Warriors in their first ever play-in championship. It counts. For all y'all saying the play-in don't count, we were there, we seen it.

And now we're here Before we get an nitty-gritty it should be noted that LeBron is eight and four with the Lakers against the Warriors that includes that playing championship game that I Don't know where those stats go, but they just fly to me. So we'll start with this Where does the LeBron stuff rivalry rank all time when you think about some of those historic matchups? To me, they're one and one. They're one and one still. They're one and one.

You know, it's, you know, Steph got his first one, right, his first championship with a hurt, with a hurt cast, you know. Kyrie and Love was hurt. He got his first one. The second one, Draymond fucks off that series, right? Bronham win.

Right there, that's a rivalry. Once the other one got KD, come on, there's no, that's not a rivalry at that point. You got the guy who was at that point competing with LeBron for who was the best player in the league, right? And you added him to your team that you already was dominant on. So it was still 1-1 to me.

Once the teams got altered, then it was no. And does the playing make it 1.5 to 1? No. The play-in is worth something, you know. Postseason. Like, even this, this is rivalry, but it's not in the championship, and that's the only part about it. Like, this is second round, right?

Even though for us it's this big thing, but at the end of the day, it's just the second round. Would it mean more if it was Western Conference Finals? Probably. Yeah. The closer to the finals as. Would it mean more for the Western Conference Finals? Probably. Yeah. Yeah. The closer to the finals as possible?

Yeah, more. I feel like if the Lakers had Kyrie, it'd be more of a rivalry too, more of a bigger rivalry. It's just like LeBron and... I feel like LeBron and KD is bigger to me, just because they can guard... They'll guard each other. It's the same position, so you'll be able to see that matchup more. You're not really going to see a matchup with Steph and LeBron as much on the court. So you're not really getting that one-on-one matchup.

So it's cool, it's just if I feel like the Lakers had Kyrie, it would have been better. Was while the early on, like 2015, 2016, when Steph would end up on LeBron in a matchup, LeBron would always look a little shaky. It was always just look a little shaky. It was always just like a weird situation. Yeah, you got to guard a guy who's sitting here trying to mess with you. You know what I'm saying? But when Steph's guarding LeBron, like LeBron, he would just take jumper.

He wouldn't do like the normal LeBron bully into the... It's not really... I mean, it's a rivalry. Yes, it's a rivalry, but it's just they don't guard each other. So it's not like you're not getting that if KD and Bron was playing against each other. Yeah, for sure. Like that's a like, okay, we're going to see them coming down, go at it three or four or five times. Yeah, and it's Golden State versus LeBron.

Yeah, basically. That is the rivalry. Yeah, basically. And it's not like, you know what I mean? It's not like it's Golden State versus the Lakers or Golden State versus Cleveland. Like Magic and Bird, it was Lakers versus Boston. That was them. Now, if Bird went to another team or Magic would have went to another team,

it doesn't have the same impact. For sure. So LeBron being on the Lakers now is like, oh, this rivalry. Well, technically not. It's them three versus LeBron again Yeah, you know as LeBron we have our own fan base. We go over where LeBron goes. So we're basically our own Institution. Yeah, it is. Yeah, you know for a championship. Let's go bronze in Cleveland. This is a whole different Yeah, then it'll be a whole now. It's like okay

And I get that I mean obviously those were finals matches But I feel like this playoff series has the potential to potentially be one of the most watched. No, for sure. No, for sure. At the level of finals games. Because we're going to be locked in. I believe that.

Because we were locked in for Warriors-Kings, and I don't give a fuck about the Kings. I'm going to be real, but we were locked in for that. You know, to be honest, the championship is coming out of West. It's a West. I mean, you can see it's a West championship. Yeah. And I think whoever wins this year is right here between the Lakers and Warriors going to the finals.

I don't know. Denver is better than we expect. Because if you look at their past with a non healthy team Every team Denver lost to was in the championship or they won a championship So they didn't lose to some bum-ass team They lost to an elite team that went to the to the to the finals or lost in the finals or won the championship so with everyone back I think We need to consider that shit.

Okay. Shit. I mean, you know. Game three, you'll be able to tell. And you got to play potentially four games in Denver, too, which, let's just keep it real. Like y'all said last week, that era. I mean, a Denver-Boston series. It's nasty.

A Denver. Adam Silver's not going to let that happen, bro. A Denver 76ers series is nasty. Adam Silver's not going to. Got one of the bigs. Yeah. Look, W. Adam Silver not going to. Battle of the Bigs. Look, W. That would be a great.

No, no, no, no. That would be. If that happens, they should not say who the MVP is into that shit it's over with. They're doing it tonight. No, I know. I know. They should just. Put a plug on it.

Just hold it. Just hold it. Who wins this series is our MVP. So when we talk about LeBron, we talk about Steph. You got two gentlemen who have, you know, huge legacies, right? Devoted fan bases that go at each other religiously, regardless of whatever's going on. Want to see each other fail.

But deep down, I feel like having respect and love for each other. People always ask the question, how does something affect LeBron's legacy? But how does this playoff matchup affect both LeBron and Steph's legacy? I'm just be honest. There's nothing these two can do to change their legacy I'm sorry Seriously seriously This is the world says Jordan's number one

Right If Jordan's number one How many more If I can't do anything else If I'm number two right now No matter what I do I'm still number two If I win this championship I'm still number two It won't change shit

So with Steph If LeBron's number two the highest you can get is three? So step step wins a chip this year his second final MVP. He still stays he's not he's not going in front of LeBron He still stays beneath the bruh. Yes. What does he need to do to surpass the bro one? He needs to get that scoring title, which he's not gonna get You forgot about that. I'm not scoring title. No, I mean the to get. You forgot about that? A scoring title? No, I mean the... The regular season?

The 40,000? Yeah. That's not happening. I know. So what amount of rings does Steph need to win? The same amount of rings LeBron needs to win to surpass Jordan. So there's no... There's no number.

There's no number. There's always some type of hidden agenda between the numbers. Because even if LeBron gets six rings, six finals MVPs, they're going to say, oh, you did it in 22 years. Jordan did it in 15.

Yeah, that's what I said. There's already a narrative. There's going to already be a narrative written. So at this point, it says, okay, Jordan's one, LeBron's two. So no matter what he does, he's just going to be in two. So Steph can't one LeBron's two so no matter what he does he's just gonna be in two so Steph can't jump LeBron

um all right his overall number I mean he's never gonna be he's not gonna have assists over LeBron he's like I have rebounds over LeBron he's like I have points over LeBron and I think it's from like the start to finish too though yeah like LeBron came in 18 like you know I think I like I think a lot of people be forgetting that LeBron came in at 18 Average in the guy average in the day and kept being the guy though, but kept getting better like this I said we're talking about the like wait. You have to do any of that. It's 20 years of doc I no matter what anyone says right no matter how many years you tell my Jordan we it's 20 years of dominating yeah No matter how many years you talk about Jordan, it's 20 years of dominating.

Yeah. Right? 20 years of dominating, and he's not even considered for number one. Yeah. No, that's crazy. No, that is crazy. He's not even considered for number one, and 90% of the people's dominating for 20 years. Yeah.

Yeah. And they're like, nah, you're not even close. Who is that, though? Who're like, mmm. Nah, you're not even close Who is that though? Who like why is that because all the media the media the media who has all the power today? Grew up during Jordan's era. Okay, right so you're talking about the skip Bayless is all of them You know that they were they were when Jordan came so they in so they all got to die basically Just retire. I didn't you just really think about like they were when Jordan came. So they all got to die, basically. Just retire. You just retire. I mean, think about some of the icons.

Think about some of the icons then. You're talking about Michael, Michael Jackson, right? In that time frame, their legacies is just printed in, it's just inked as gold standard and there's really ... Nothing. There's nothing you can do because if you copy the gold standard, you're just a copycat fragment of it.

You're not the real thing. So it's really hard to take away someone's pristine... But when you think about that, you're talking about Michael Jackson was wild. If you have Michael was in this day and age at the height of his career with social media and everything, that's why you have to keep things separated by era. Because the shit he was doing back in the day with no internet, niggas was in newspapers and on phone calls knowing they got to pull up to this concert, come 100,000 strong. When you're talking about guys like Bad Bunny selling out, you know, like,

Micah was doing that. Doing that, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Doing that with no social media. With no social media, no internet like that. And they were passing out. Passing out. Like, before he even started, he was just standing there.

Like, he didn't say a word yet. Like, imagine standing there all night, and here you come, and you just stand there. Like, he was standing there for two minutes just looking. Yeah. And you passed out. You missed the whole thing. You couldn't give me that kind of power. No way.

They'd be doing that fake shit in church, but this was like real life. Like real life. Because I'd have been to a church where they did the fake thing. It's like, come on. How would you be if you had that power? What? You know the funny part?

This is America that we see. When they go overseas... Yeah. I mean, shit, yeah, I'm in racism. Let's just be real. When they go overseas, when you're talking about Michael Jordan, LeBron James, overseas,

they're overseas. Man, them overseas, they go in China, they make the American, they make. They go in China. They make the American. They make American crowds look like trash. Yeah. Trash. Yeah.

You trash. You LeBron fan is trash compared to his China fans. They're that serious. That's real. Well, let's talk about. 40,000 people in the airport waiting for him. Two arenas. That's what for him. Two arenas. That's what I got.

Two arenas. They know LeBron James is coming in and do something. The whole city. There's 40,000 people outside just lined up in the airport. I seen that shit with T-Mac. I believe it. I was like, I've never seen. I'm in the NBA. It's cold. I'm in the game. I've never seen no shit like TMAC. I believe it. I was like, I've never seen you know, I'm an NBA, you know, it's cold

We know I'm in the game. I've never seen no shit like this in my life. We're going to China and we're like, all right damn TMAC a team and an attitude TMAC Yeah, I'm rolling like Jenny saw That's real love. You should be like, Jennings-ah. Jennings-ah. Jennings-ah. So back to this LeBron-Steph discussion. When people point out that Steph is only three years younger than LeBron, I feel like it's important to have some context.

LeBron is 38 years old. He's played more than 65,000 minutes in his career, including playoffs. Steph is 35. He's played nearly 36,000 minutes including playoffs. But, you know, it's like, shit, difference of 30,000 minutes. LeBron's almost doubled up, you know, Steph's entire career

just in terms of the amount he's played, which is fucking crazy when you think about it. And it speaks to what y'all were talking about earlier. But how impressive is it to see both LeBron and Steph

still cooking as NBA senior citizens? I mean, it just shows you that they take care of their body very well. I think if we go back, you know, Steph's first three, four years with that ankle, with them ankle injuries, I don't think anybody could have written that he would have stayed healthy this long. You know, it just shows you how much he dedicates to his body and you know we talked about what you know LeBron has done for his body but nobody talks about how you know what Steph had to overcome and change whatever he was

doing for his ankles to be able to last this long. Like nobody could have said you know Steph would be playing this way at 35 with how fragile his ankles were back then. Yeah, and I think, you know, like I think you were talking about it before, like, you know, the way you train your body, the way guys need to start training. I think guys need to start paying attention to how these guys are training and what they're training for. Like they're training for the finals. Like, you know, like you said before, all the load management and all these guys missing games, like guys got to start training for the, to the finals. Like, you know, like you said before all the low management and all these guys missing games, like guys got to start training for the end of the season. Like you're training for 50 games. Like you need to train to,

to the playoffs, to the finals, to, you know, cause you never know. So I think that's the main thing is to like, they're training their bodies for the whole season. Everybody's training theirself for like 50 games. Like I know I'm going to miss 10, 15, and it's like, no, like you've got to train yourself for the whole season. So I think that's the biggest thing too. Like, I mean, as an athlete or just as, you know,

just a human being themselves, have you ever noticed that you get sick around the same time every year? Right? Your body just, that's your time, right? Your body frame is adapting to the schedule that it's been accustomed to, right? Same thing as an athlete, right? If your body is used to shutting off when a season like you, let's say you've been in the league seven years and your body, and you ended the season april 15th every year in the middle of april and going after april may

was it january march april may june your body is used to just shutting down and resting what do you think is going to happen that first year you get into the playoffs your body's going to be wanting to shut down that's what it's used to. So, you know, for anybody out there, like, so for Grizzlies, John Morant, who else is out there? Who's lost in the first round? I mean, you know, you got Giannis right now, but he's done. But he's used to it. You know, you got, you know, Ja and the Grizzlies. You have Sacramento.

Anthony Edwards. Anthony Edwards, right? You guys should be training still. You guys should be balling right now, working out every single day until the end of the season. Right? Like, people didn't realize

what LeBron was doing. When LeBron would get put out, he's still working out because he's trying to get his body used to going the distance. So if the distance is this, I need to train my body and muscles and mind to know that this is the end. So if you're used to leaving in the first round and going on vacation, your body's going to adapt to that too. That's wild to think about. No, but it's true.

You've got to. You need to keep training. You keep training. Don't stop. Guys who aren't on that level, if you're not on LeBron's and the staff's level, like, you need to still be playing basketball and hooping. Like, all them guys need to be at UCLA hooping. Right now.

Like, hooping. Like, that two-week bullshit? No. Two. Like, as long as the season's going on, you should be going on. Living. Living. And, like, you got James Harden, 45, and then he's in the gym right after the game working out.

You have to understand what's going on. These guys are still getting better right now, so you need to still get better with them, right? And then when the season's over with, that's when you take your two weeks off. That's wild, man. So basically, we're just saying even for these young guys that are coming in no matter if your team's trash or not Train to that mid June. Yes be on that champion schedule Regardless of whatever if you want to be real, you know, like coming up once that season ended its shutdown mode

Like it's vacation. It's Cabo is Cancun. I'm not the reality They're already sitting down during the season. You already getting them two or three weeks. You've already been out for like a month Anyway, so how much more rest do you want? When you're talking about elite, there's a reason certain guys are always at the pinnacle. There's a reason that some guys who get to the top fall.

They're not doing the things that they need to do. Your talent can only take you so far from there. It becomes preparation, consistency. So last thing I need from y'all. and I'll do this quickly, I need predictions for this series. Lakers-Warriors, Western Conference semis, who's winning how many games? Fuck.

I keep my shit business. I got Warriors in six. He said I keep my shit business. I got Warriors in six. He said it like he was in the gym. I got Warriors in six. No! But I love the Lakers though. No! I just think too much Steph, man.

Lakers in seven. Ooh. Okay. And the reason I say this is, okay, Warriors in seven then. What? Warriors in seven, yeah. Warriors in seven? What? Where is the seven? Yeah. Where is the seven?

Yeah, I can see it going seven. Like, with LeBron, I mean, you know, LeBron, I think the team he has this year is better than any team he's faced against. Wait, the team he has this year? Right now? Better than the 2016 Cavs squad? Besides Kyrie, I mean, the rest of the team wasn't playing like that. Let's be honest.

They wasn't playing like that. So the fact that you do have an Anthony Davis, is he going to be as consistent to Kyrie? Probably not. That's what I'm saying. So that's a big drop. I know. That is a big drop. I mean, that's a big drop. I got to scratch is a big drop. I mean, that's a big drop.

I got to scratch that chair. But you could easily say AD better than Sabonis. Sabonis? I'm just pointing it out. I'm talking about what? Kings took the Warriors to seven is my point. AD better than Sabonis, but the consistency is going to be. That's not how you.

But I'm saying it's not going to be as easy of a matchup. Because AD can give you those 30 pieces, but he can also give you 12. He's going to be more of a threat on the defensive side. Yeah, it's the matchup, but... D'Lo not really coming close to Kyrie. That's what I said. Let me just scratch what I said.

Austin Reeves, though. Rewind. I got to think about that one but I'm Lakers in seven I mean if you compare those the 2016 squad

to this squad I think you know nobody's coming close to Kyrie but if Austin Reed could play at the level he needs to play at

the Lakers have some good solid bench but if you take Kyrie out right this Lakers the Lakers team is better than. Yeah. It's better.

It's better than. Yeah, they have better role players. They have better role. That's what I'm saying. They have better role players. When they play at the highest level. I mean, he's better than. I mean, he's hooping better than any of the Cavs role players.

Yeah. And that's what factors into it. If you get something out of Malik Beasley, something out of Troy Brown, just something. I think he has a better group. Rui, of all those dudes. Yeah.

He might not have that finisher that Kyrie was that the last three minutes I need someone to take over the game. He's not going to have that player. He's going to have to win the game. The Lakers are going to have to win the game before the last two minutes.

Yeah, but he got D-low. He got, yeah, that's better than, yeah. Yeah, that's a little, yeah, you're right. No, you're right. If they play at the level they can play at, but you know, Missy Kyrie and the things that gentleman can do. We'll see. We're going to find out tonight. It's going to be a battle for the ages. If you're a Warriors fan, even if we're homies, don't call me until this shit is over. I'm not picking up. I'm going to treat you like Gil when I try to give him the incoming call.

This shit is not getting answered. Let's hit these Nugget Sons real quick. We appreciate your... We got 7,500 people in the chat right now. 7,500? 7,500, Gil. Woo! I'm not surprised. We're going to get to this 10.? 7,500, yo. Woo! I'm not surprised. We're going to get to this 10. We're going to get to this 10.

I'm not surprised. You're going to smoke this money for the third round. All right, all right, y'all want me to smoke. OK. Get the 10 grand. I'm going to smoke, fuck the whole show up. We might smoke after. We're going to smoke after the show and film it.

Y'all keep playing. Fuck this whole show up. Man, this motherfucker butt naked just like this year. Show up. What's your answers again, y'all? You're going to have to sit on that side. Man, this all like, yeah, yeah, show up. We did it's more like a butt nigga just like Let's talk a little bit nugget son so after that KD trade everyone thought the Suns were the team to beat in the West right? You know, we're not gonna sit here and pretend like that didn't happen. Mm-hmm. Everyone except the Nuggets apparently So after Jamal Murray looked like he was in the bubble game one

You know Dro dropping that 34 piece, you had Joker absolutely dominating the Suns in game two. 39-16, five assists. I think I saw some stats, he's done that now three straight games, he's like the the fifth player to do that, like Kareem will, and obviously the usual suspects. Like what, 20, 15, and 5 or something like that in three straight games. Wild times. Dbook came through. He had 35. KD dropped 24.

Suns benched as many new atrocious. They combined for four points total in game two. So a question for both of y'all. Suns are now down 2-0, heading back to Phoenix. Are the Suns cooked, and what adjustments can they make to potentially salvage their season? I mean, they're not cooked.

I mean, let's not confuse ourselves. Winning a road game out of the first two games, it doesn't happen, like, often, games, it doesn't happen often. It doesn't happen often where someone can go in there and split a home win. So they have to take care of their home court. Now they have technically a home court. They have two games, and they have to tie it up 2-2. What they need to do is speed the game. I mean, they're not going to beat them playing Denver's basketball,

playing slow. I mean, you know, first game was at 107, second game 89. You have Devin Booker and KD on the team, and you're scoring 89 points and 107 points. If that's happening, that means the rest of your team ain't doing shit. You know, for you to compete with Denver, you're going to have to be in the 115 era. You're going to have to score at least 115, because that means you're keeping up offensively. Because Denver has the best of both worlds.

They can play fast, and they can play half court and get a ball to Joker, and he just eats you apart offensively and with passing. Or scoring with, you know, posting up or with, you know, dishing the ball out. So you're going to have to, you know, push that tempo up. You can't, you're not going to beat them scoring fucking 89 points or 107. Yeah, they're not cooked. You know, CP3 going down does hurt. But, I mean, you're at home,

so you should be comfortable enough to get a win. I would like to see KD be a little bit more aggressive. I feel like he was a little bit more conservative, a little bit. I know he's new to the team, but I think he's going to have to go back to old KD a little bit. More selfish in these next two games. I got nothing. Like, listen, both.

Like, you bench four points. Oh, man, y'all be getting cussed out. I mean, we can go play for them right now. Four points. Not me. I'm not even going. You can't get four points in a playoff game right now? Listen, I got to.

Listen, off that bench, they had four points the whole game. Dude, we can go get at least eight for a piece About three minutes. I get a three Yeah, we go hit a three So I just think his rotation so there's just certain players that he can play that can you know open up the decor? He's relying too much on His starters And let's it's come on this is this is a game where you know

That you you have that you have to have reliable bench players that can come in and score Here's another problem. You're talking about relying on the starters. They may be down one CP three Left game to some growing tightness in the third quarter. So two questions for y'all. I mean, does CP3 have the worst playoff luck when it comes to injury? It seems like this shit pretty much every year. Yeah, to be honest, he is, you know, when it comes to the playoffs, there's these little knacks that's getting to them.

And it makes sense, though. When I was with the Grizzlies, when we was playing Clippers, what we would do is they would put Tony Allen on and pick him up full court, force him to use the full length of the court, then do his pick and rolls, try to get everybody involved. And then when he guards Conley, run him around. So not knowing he's being used more than he thinks he is and these little injuries that he's getting is because, you know,

the wear and tear that he's having on his body. Playoffs are spiritual. Yeah. You got to be living right on and off the court. Terrence, like, people don't understand, man. Yeah, you gotta be living right on and on record The playoffs are different, all right, the playoffs are different you got a sacrifice That's why that James Harden thing could have went south because you know mentally we're in the middle of playoffs Yes, we have a break, but you're all the way in fucking Vegas Probably take a private jet. I don't give a fuck what you took.

The life last seat, though, girl. The full recline. We're in Philly. You're in Vegas. You know how many things could have happened? Yeah. Knowing that they didn't, but you're so far away from the goal. Our goal is to try to get to the championship and possibly win it,

and you want to see titties? But what if he needed that level of cheek wiggling that only Vegas could provide? No, that's what I'm saying. He had his mental right for Boston. I'm cool with, that's why the four, that's why. But it hasn't been working, so that means that this is a consistent thing. Okay. But that's what I'm saying.

It hasn't been working in his favor. I would have been the first nigga to get ready to say something in the locker room after the game, but the fact that you got 45 seconds, cool, nigga. When you going back? When you going back? I mean, that shit must have worked for you. What do you think about that? I mean, but there's one, like, isn't Atlantic City

two hours, an hour and a half away? I'm not familiar with strip clubs. Atlantic City's right down the corner. You want to go to the casino or something, go see some ass or titty? Miami's right here. Go to Miami. I just feel like I got enough money to wear all that coming to me. Everything is just

coming to me. Bring the club to you. The regular season mindset is what irritated me. I'm a James Harden fan. The regular season mindset, that shit shouldn't be happening in the playoffs. Like, do that shit at the crib, right?

I got nothing. Do the shit at the crib. You got Delilah's. There's some nice ladies of the night that came from Delilah's strip club. They're famous now. There's some nice, famous ladies that came from Delilah's strip club. Use Delilah's. Like, for you to leave the city is what irritates me

as a player. Like, come on, man, like, we trying to do something special here and you still got the,

the regular season antics going on. That's the only thing, like, I, like, when we went, when we went for the

championship, when we was in, um, college, right? And, you know, at Arizona,

and we was going to, our second year, we was going, like, there was a rule, you know, at Arizona, and we was going to our second year, we was going, like, there was a rule, you can't have sex. Right? You can't have sex. Like, I bet. If this is what it's going to take, right, so I've known sacrifice.

So, you know, if we're going to the playoffs and say, hey, man, look, we ain't clubbing, we ain't having no parties, you know, if we're going to go out, we're going to go as a team to dinner. As a team, that's what we're doing. So all that extra shit that we usually do, that's cut off. So Calvin Booth, when we went to Cleveland, for us to stay out of the streets, Calvin Booth's like, yo, I'm going to have team dinner at the crib.

So we'll all go to Calvin Booth's house and we'll be partying. You know, then, you know. Food good? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that's an important thing. And then we'll go to LeBron's gambling. But it was, you know what I mean? It was a controlled environment.

Yeah. But even being at LeBron's gambling, which, I mean, I'm. It's controlled. Like, he got the games going on. you know, we can watch, you know He got film of us. He's breaking down, you know, so I get to watch the city's watching But you feel like it was a set up a little bit like, you know He know he knew what his body is capable of like it's like MJ hanging out with the Knicks back in the day during the Playoff play he knows what like but I have the same body type, so I know how to, you know what I mean?

So that didn't affect me, you know. But, you know, just the fact that I know where all the players are, we know where each other are. So the fact, that was the only thing that, you know, that I'll say, yo, come on, come on, man. Like, I'm not worrying about his work ethic. Like, you know, you can see after games he's going to work out. Yeah.

He got 60, he's going to work out. I'm never going to question his work ethic. I just question sometimes when things are on the line, what are we doing? Coming to work, I'm not worrying about when he gets in a arena what he's going to do. It's just that, hey, anything can happen. Who does he have in his circle to tell him that? Huh? Who does he have in his circle to tell him that?

You think Doc tell him that? You think when Doc and him all saw that? I don't think that. Like, you think anybody say anything or just, like, whatever? Nah. Because, you know,

if I'm on a team, like, you know, I want to see how he performs. Okay. And, you know, I'm going to fall victim to the same shit.

You had 45 and I'm going to be like, all right, good game. And because you're going to have, no matter when you want to talk to him, what are you watching? He had 45, and then while I'm going home, this motherfucker's in the gym working out. So what I want to say, so what if they lose the series? I can't blame it on him. The reason I can't blame it on him is because the most important game to what he was doing was game one.

It's game one. It's game one because we know where you were. Okay, you outperformed what our expectations was, so I got to shut the fuck up. Right now, whatever happens going forward, I can't blame it on Vegas anymore. Okay, for sure. I can't use Vegas as the reason of anything.

Like, if you go 0 for 12 this next game, I can't blame Vegas for that. Like, I can't. Why not? Because Vegas didn't have nothing to do with it. Like, Vegas was game one. But Vegas is the reason why you're upset anyway. Yeah, but I can't use it. That stuff still lingers on, though.

You don't think that stuff lingers on? Nah, that's a girlfriend's fight. If your goal is to win it all, right, and you just said that irritates you, right? Yeah. Right? So it's going to keep irritating you because he's not going to stop you. I know, but I can't use it. So you just don't say nothing.

I don't. And then you guys just lose. I can't use it. But it's just like when we fight with a I can't use it. If you guys... But it's just like, you know, when we fight with a girl, right? No, for sure. Yeah. Right?

They try to, they use a reason to try to get back to the other reason that they're really mad. Right? But... Right, right. Right, right. Right? They can't, like something happened, they can't use this right now so they pick a little fight

here to try to swing back that way. I can't, you can't swing this right now. So they pick a little fight here to try to swing back that way. I can't swing. You can't swing back. Right. Game one. We it was written off. Nigga, you you was in Vegas and this was happening. We was ready to run our narrative. So basically no one got to ask him any questions about that slap. You can't wait to game two. It wasn't a slap. It was a love tap. I didn't see slap. What was that? I don't know. Even corrective. Get your mind right, baby. But even game two, right? And it was probably one of those like, yo, hey, the girls are supposed to have already been ready. The table's supposed to have been ready.

This shit ain't the way it's supposed to have been. This is your job. You should have smacked this shit out. It was probably one of those. It was probably an assistant. It was probably an assistant that was supposed to have the table or something ready. Who knows? You know, we did this dumb thing.

Who knows? But what I'm saying is, no matter what game two is, you can't rewind and start asking shit about what happened last week. Right? You had a chance to do it. He outperforms you. That narrative's over with. Now all you can say is, oh, what did you do after the game one? We've seen them work out

You know what I mean? So it's it's like I'm not the type of I'm not the type if I didn't get if I didn't get to get it off right Then I just fuck I just I missed my opportunity. I let it go. Yeah, I gotta let it go I got missed my opportunity let it go I love that we were talking sons and it went back to Harden, but that's what makes gills arena special Okay, we were talking about the Sun. We don't need to anymore. We want to do it on Gill's Arena. Oh, shit.

But now it's time for our last segment of the day, mostly fans. And I was going to say, Doc can't really say much because he's going to wait too hard on the Twitter likes, if y'all remember that before the season started. Doc can't be liking the porno sites on Twitter, Chief. Everybody can see it. I done slipped up on the scroll and actually hit like, but Twitter, Chief. Everybody can see it. I done slipped up on the scroll and actually hit like, but quickly

got it back. I'm being told that's what bookmarks are for. I'm a very remedial Twitter user, though, but that's what the bookmarks are for. You can come back, scan through it. But Mosey fans, let's start. We got some breaking news. Apparently, OJ watches this show. I don't know if that's

a good thing or a bad thing. The breaking news. Apparently OJ watches this show I don't know if that's a good thing or bad thing juice the juice. So wait, okay Our first question now our first question from the juice He said if Lakers don't make the finals does Brian leave LA or does he trade ad? I love that it is broad decision to do either work Those are the two options does Brown leave LA or does he trade or does he trade A.D.? Trade A.D. Yeah, trade A.D. If I'm Brian at this age, I'm not leaving. Obviously, he's not leaving because his son's in high school here.

One of his sons is supposed to be, I mean, Brian is supposed to be going to USC. Uh-uh. He is? I mean, who knows? I don't know. Do better, Brian. That's what I'm saying. So it's, his family is Los Angeles right now.

Yeah. Right, you know, son's in high school, you know, he just transferred to another school. And he, oh, like where, he gonna start his life over again? I mean, and I feel like he got a lot of business here. He got that, that's what I'm saying, I don't see him moving anywhere. There's too much stuff outside of basketball to leave. Yeah, AD can go. Okay, so you're saying, okay, he traded.

Thank you, Juice. All right, so Lil-, so you're saying, okay, he traded. Thank you, Juice. All right. So, Lil... Lil, you're working. Question number two from Lil Taekwon. Lil Taekwon. Which, do you know, okay, let's make sure. Lil Taekwon. There's no beef, you know, they're posting this.

It'd be like Lil Taekwon, he'd be like six foot five, four hundred pounds. Call himself Lil Taekwon. Slim. Slim. Which cities in the East and West are best for teams to be established for the expansion? So which, I guess, which cities will make the best expansion? For the East? In the East, one team in the East, one team in the West.

For the West, I'll say Vegas. Okay, they're building that big ass arena. Seattle, they've had a great... Yeah, Vegas and Seattle for sure in the West. Vegas and Seattle. Vegas building had a great... Yeah, Vegas and Seattle for sure on the West Coast. Vegas and Seattle. Vegas building that big ass arena. They already got T-Mobile. They're building another big ass one by the Circus Circus on that side. Yeah, Vegas finna be cracking.

Yeah. Vegas. And then on the East... New Jersey? Did you go back to Jersey? Nah, that ain't true. Off that? Come on, Gil. What? I didn't... Fuck. East. I mean, every East big city has a team, right? Yeah, I think what I'm up to. I mean, nobody really, like I would think.

Who in the East needs a team? Let's see if the chat has... but there's like 15 seconds left. East, because you got to have a fan base that can support it. I mean, you can have one of those... Shit, probably Kansas City. Kansas City would probably be a good city to have a team. St. Louis? Yeah, like St. Louis would be a good team. Like a good city. Them Ferguson boys up in Wiener. I heard they built like that in St. Louis. I heard they built...

It's because they got the Chiefs. Well, you know they got the Chiefs, they got other... Buffalo! Ooh. Hell. I'm not going to Buffalo in the winter. Yeah, we're not. Ooh, I mean, we can go bougie. We can go to Hamptons.

Go to Hamptons. How many seat arenas do you think you can fit in to Hampton? Make it exclusive, 20,000. I mean, it's just most of the East Midway, I mean Midwest maybe I mean, yeah Me you need that. Yeah those bigger spots Somebody West Coast Oh, I probably is like Seattle and Vegas for the way is he I don't yeah, see I don't Vegas is only two cities

That don't yeah, I'm not gonna see San Diego at some point, but they gotta get their shit, right? Bring the Clippers back. I don't like not knowing. Orange County should get a team. Anaheim. Somebody said Montreal. And they're saying Tampa Bay. Vancouver.

Vancouver fans aren't the same as Toronto fans. Oh, no. Okay. Somebody said Baltimore. I mean, Baltimore did have. Yeah. same as Toronto fans. Oh, okay. What about Baltimore? I mean, no, Baltimore did have a great fan, but it's so close now. Yeah. And our last question is from MQ. MQ.

What's the craziest trip you've taken before between games? Ah! Oh, God. Here we go. This is some real shit. Okay, this is my first year. This is my rookie season with Golden State Warriors.

So, when Dave Collins got fired and they put Brian Winters in as coach, we was fucking around. There was no practices anymore, right? So coach was like, ah, y'all don't come

whenever y'all do practice. So no more practice, just show up to games, right? So, on Fridays and Saturdays, if we had a day off, I'll drive my Escalade because I had that baby blue powder Escalade

with the TVs plushed, right? I'll drive my Escalade because I had that baby blue powder Escalade with the TVs plushed, right? I'll drive from Oakland all the way to Sunset Boulevard. So I'm driving, so I'll drive. Even if it was after, I'll drive after the game or just that day, get the little hand car wash, clean off the bugs and shit, and be dipping down Sunset Boulevard. So I

come all the way to Los Angeles just to ride the strip one or two times before I went back home. And look. Didn't get a hotel here. I was just dumb. Just, oh shit, the Escalade my boys just get. We'll pick them up, clean it off. And then what, you drive

right back after? I mean, look. I'm dumb, dog. I can't even, hey, Sunset Strip back in those days. It was popping. But you were, you drive right back after? I mean look, I can't- I'm dumb, dog. Hey, Sunset Strip back in those days- It was poppin'. But you were, were you 21 at that point? No, you were still, were you still underage? 19. 19, 20.

But you couldn't get into Miyagi's in those spots? Man, I never got out of my car. You could've done the clubs, you could've made Miyagi's, turned up Jamie Foxx in them. Come on, I don't, you was, was you, was you? No, he was too young for Sunset back then. Yeah, I was too young. Come on, Sunset back then was a thing. I know. So me in high school, we used to get to go watch, right?

Or my friend had the bucket, and then we'd be in the seats like this trying to look. So when I had a car to get to it. I was in an NBA Right, so I wasn't like so all my whole thing was like yo, I was like yo, what y'all about to do We're about to hit the sunset. That's how it started like yo, what y'all what y'all doing tonight? You know, we go into the sunset. Oh No, I'm coming Yeah, and I'm driving. I can't I can't we used to do the same shit in high school. That was the thing?

Come on, that was the thing. Go hit Mel's like 2, 3 a.m. That's the only place you can fucking get out and actually get in. My Mel's diner? Or High Wings Cafe.

Now they robbing niggas over there, but you hop over to High Wings Cafe because they're open until 3 a.m. You can get your thing. Because I had the TVs

in my visor, so I put the visors out so everybody see the TV. It's goofy. It's goofy shit, bro. It's just goofy dumb shit. Before we wrap, they put the pollors out, right, so everybody see the TV. It's goofy. It's goofy shit, bro. It's just goofy, dumb shit. Before we wrap, they put the poll up. Where would you rather place an East expansion team?

The options are Richmond, Baltimore, Charleston, South Carolina, and Tampa, Florida. Baltimore won, followed by Tampa, Florida. You know, Tampa, I've heard, have some nice, you know, shake clubs, if you say. Ebo City? Yeah. No, so Baltimore. I mean, because Baltimore already had one. And they moved to the D.C.

Like Virginia? Probably like somewhere in Virginia. They're saying Richmond, Virginia. Yeah, Richmond, Virginia. Yeah, I'm about to say. Yeah. Yeah, Richmond, Virginia. Yeah, Virginia would be good.

Well, shit. Let us know in the chat. Kentucky? Kentucky? Kentucky's a basketball town. It's too smart, but can it hold? Maybe. I mean, it's like one of those cities, can they hold? It's just like Memphis or, you know, can they hold the juice?

We'll find out. We appreciate you to the more than 7,500 of you that pulled up to the chat. I think that's a new world record for Gilder. We are inching ever so close until that 10,000 because of all of you at the crib. Get this blunt to you. Every day, Brandon brings a blunt for Gil to smoke. Every day, Gil does not smoke. We're going to get closer.

We are closer today than we've ever been, Gil, and we are creeping up. Oh, yeah. Before the finals, before the finals. Allegedly. So we appreciate y'all. are creeping up. Oh, yeah. Before the finals. Before the finals, for sure. Allegedly. So we appreciate y'all. We'll be back tomorrow, Wednesday. Appreciate you, Underdog Fantasy. Don't forget to go ahead and use that R.J. Barrett pick-em.

If you score one point, you win. You can use that to combo up, get you some bread. Underdog, we're trying to get it. I'm shit. I'm about to hit it right now when we get off the show. But we'll see y'all Wednesdays. Gil's Arena. Woo-hoo! All right. Yeah.