Gil's Arena - LeBron's EMOTIONAL Return Home SHAKES UP Gil's Arena

Episode Date: January 29, 2026

LeBron's EMOTIONAL Return Home SHAKES UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to LeBron James returning to Cleveland to face off with the Cleveland Cavaliers and debate if the Ki...ng's emotional response was a signal that this could have been his final game in the Land. They also debate if LeBron will opt for a farewell tour following this emotional moment from the Cavaliers before reacting to a scary moment for Luka Doncic as Slovenian Jesus fell awkwardly off the Cavs court, striking fear into Los Angeles Lakers fans everywhere. Next, they discuss Joel Embiid's quiet resurgence as the Philadelphia 76ers superstar looks to have gotten his groove back, sparking a debate on if the Sixers should finally be taken seriously with their Big 3 of Embiid, Tyrese Maxey and Paul George firing on all cylinders for the first time in their 76ers careers. Finally, they react to the news that Jayson Tatum may not return this season as the Boston Celtics' superstar continues to rehab from his torn achilles and break down what this means for Jaylen Brown who is in the middle of a career season serving as the Celtics' number 1 option. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Gil's Arena Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Brandon Jennings, Rashad McCants, Norris Cole, & Kenyon Martin Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $75 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:04 Joel Embiid Got His Groove Back 0:05:15 Doc Rivers Trolls Giannis By Complimenting Embiid 0:38:08 LeBron's Emotional Return To Cleveland 0:46:27 Cleveland Is Donovan Mitchell's City 1:04:55 Luka's Scary Injury 1:12:52 Jaylen Brown Is Still Carrying The Celtics 1:22:45 Jayson Tatum Speaks On The Pressure Of Boston 1:43:03 MVP Race Debate 1:58:59 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:03:27 I'm merely host Josiah Johnson. We got NBA legend, current Arc Raiders player, Gilbert Arena. here with us. Next to give, we got two-time NBA champion of the world Norris Coe back in the arena two days straight. Back to back. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
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Starting point is 00:04:45 Here's what's cracking in Gil's Arena today. Joelle Embede has been playing at an MVP level as of late, but should the Sixers still trust the process, he's been looking good, playing in games at knee, responding well. The Cavs smacked the Lakers and LeBron's return to Cleveland. Would a return home for his final NBA season be the icing on King's legendary career? And Jalen Brown is playing at an MVP level and guiding the shorthanded Celtics this season.
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Starting point is 00:05:44 on Apple, Spotify, wherever you get to your podcast. So we're going to start this one out in Philly. It's been hard for the Sixers fans to trust the process in recent years as injuries have plagued the roster. Former MVP Joylin B playing combined 58 games in the past two seasons, but things appear headed in the right direction. Sixers were looking to bounce back against the Janus's Bucks on Tuesday night after dropping three of their previous four games, including a 37-point blowout to the Hornets and Charlotte on Monday. And they're Big three gave the team reason for optimism with one of their best collective performances of the season. Let's take a look at some of the highlights, if we may, please.
Starting point is 00:06:19 So Paul George led Philly with a team high 32 points, including a season high 9-3s. He's 1121 from the field, 9 of 15 from deep. Embedd continued his dominance as of late, putting up 29 points and nine boards and 29 minutes of action, while Tyrese Maxie added 22 and 9 assists. Jared McCain was also solid off the bench. He had 17 points, hitting five of his six three-point attempts. So Sixers looking to bounce back from last season. They won a total of 24 games last season.
Starting point is 00:06:51 This went over the Bucks. I get us to Bucks. I get Yannis in play, but they are an NBA team, and they were on the schedule. Sixers got their 25th win of the season so far, eclipsing that previous total of 24, like I mentioned, last season, when they dealt with injuries to be. George and Embed. You said.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Looking all right. We got some more highlights. Miam. All-star game starter. Can I reach Maxie? All his highlights has been. Let me get around this curve, man. Squad is out there doing their thing.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Like I mentioned, yes, it is. He so tough, though. Against the bucks. The bucks, as we know, are cooked. Now three to 12. without Janus, but just 15 and 15 with yonnes. Good old dear meat. Good old dear meat.
Starting point is 00:07:56 But Philly currently sixth in the east with a record of 25 and 21. Tyrese Max, he's been playing at an all-N-BA level selected as an all-star game started for the first time in his career. Also leads the league in minutes per game. And it's sixth in scoring at 29 points per game. Paul George is up to the production the past few weeks. And Embed has been bawling without a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:16 a minute's restriction. But Gil, do you still have faith in the Sixers Big Three to be a legit threat in the East this season? Okay. The question you're asking, no. The way you're asking that question, no. Do not believe in the Big Three being a threat because the most important part of the Big Three,
Starting point is 00:08:40 the guy who is technically, technically by our standards, is a three-time all-embae first team, but he had to make the second team because of the rules that they had to change. So probably one of the most dominant figures offensively, skilled-wise, in the game today, win healthy, but the fact that he can't play
Starting point is 00:09:07 back-to-back games, he can't play even some games he had to sit, So you can look at that. He played on the 24th. He skipped the 26 so he can be ready for the 27. You're not going to be able to be a dominant team when the best dude can't really go 100% every single night. He's going to only be able to play anywhere from 50 to 60 something game.
Starting point is 00:09:36 So you add that as your best player, you're not going to be able to sustain it to win something. If you're trying to win a championship, you're not going to be able to win with your best player. Because of the knee, it can't go 82 games. It can't go 72 games. It can't go 65 games. Like, you know what I mean? So you are, you're not on minute restriction, but you're on game restriction. And you think it'd be still the best player on the Sixers?
Starting point is 00:10:07 Man, is the league MVP, you'll sign? I'm just, I don't know. He's, yeah. He's, yeah. Just asking the question. He is a little chip to get you. He is a best player on the team. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:17 but he can't perform as the best player every night. You know. I don't believe in the process anymore. I don't. I don't. I mean, it's unfortunate because it's because of injuries, not because of talent,
Starting point is 00:10:35 like Gil said. But I think it's time to recognize the franchise as me and Maxi's franchise. Okay. So Tyree's Matt. Okay. I mean, All-Star Game Started. Embedit is the most talented player on the team,
Starting point is 00:10:46 but availability is part of your ability. and Tyree's Maxie has been proven to be available, and he has a high production usage rating, and he's shown that he can sustain it now. At first, I wasn't sure if he can sustain it, but Maxie has shown, like, I can do this with or without them, so I think things should go Maxi's way. They should start building a franchise around Maxi and his strengths,
Starting point is 00:11:06 and, you know, if Joelle B fits into that, that's cool, but if it don't, I think you should go in the direction of Maxi. And that's why I don't think that they're a true threat to win the championship with this collection. because of the availability. I'm not even your championship low, but you got a squad six in the east right now. Playing okay as of late,
Starting point is 00:11:23 but first glimpse of really getting their starting five all together with Ubre and obviously the rest of that crew, in addition to the big three. This is about to be February, and this is the first glimpse? With them all playing together, but you got them being part of way. Better late than never, goddamn. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:11:38 It's better than never. Better late than never. They are six right now in the east, and they playing like, I mean, listen, I'm not saying they're going to win a championship, but they can make some noise The way Tyrese, that young boys plan, if Embedee can just be there as much as he can,
Starting point is 00:11:53 Paul George planned the way he can. They're going to be all right. A baby can make noise, too. I mean, it's a threat. A baby can make noise. But they're made babies. Oh, yes, they are. When you say, it ain't no baby.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Paul George ain't no baby. Tyreys ain't no baby. Babies can stare to the field of the game right now. Can they make them know what's not saying championship? What does threat mean, though? I don't know what a threat. Just like, can they win the Eastern Conference? No, I mean, listen, the way they're playing and that they're healthy, I mean, it's, I mean, you're acting like these and B is one of the best big bids in the league.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Paul George, when he's healthy. Talk who? Like, talk fucking who? You all right? Talking opinion shit. Talk who. Talk who. You're giving opinions, man.
Starting point is 00:12:37 We gave facts. Who's on their team? They got a team full of niggas that can play. We said this earlier. I went on the record two years ago saying process me. This summer I said man you know what They put that man on the minute's restriction
Starting point is 00:12:53 And they get him healthy at the playoffs They'll make a run Paul George come back he healthy Man they're gonna make a run Who they gave the team man Who they gave the team to Up until that point where both of these dudes Can get healthy
Starting point is 00:13:06 Tyrese Max? Tyrese Max What he's been doing? Playing like holding that shit down He been cooking Holding that MVP shit VJ come in Unpredictable
Starting point is 00:13:16 Come in he'd be a very valuable piece to what they're doing, holding it down. McCain, he was down last year. Come back. Holding it down. What they've done is they've identified roles. Nick nurses figured it out as far as what he need to get from Joel Embed on a nightly basis. You're talking about turning the corner in February?
Starting point is 00:13:39 I said it. This is a team that can get their shit together second half for the season. I said that when OKC was doing all the shit that they was doing. Playing all good all early. Wait to these teams that ain't figured it out yet, figure it out. It's going to look a lot different for the East and the West. And that's what's happening with the East right now. They look like a not only in the Six,
Starting point is 00:13:59 but are they better than the Boston Celtics right now? I don't know. You don't know. What is the record? I'm about to say, I don't know. The record. I'm going to go on the record. I didn't ask about the record.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I don't really know. What's the record? Are they a better team? Sixers 25 and 21, Celtics, 29. Three games back. They are in the hunt. Three games back from third. three games back from it for me, bro. I mean, obviously
Starting point is 00:14:22 if Embedd is healthy, but I mean, we've been saying that for how many years straight. We are. We're watching them nigg's hooped then. We're watching them niggas hooping. Are they, is in B., it is in Bhooping? It is in B. When he plays, he always hooping. When he plays when he plays, he hooping, right?
Starting point is 00:14:39 You ignoring the fact. If I come outside and plays a game. Tyrese Maxie Hooping Yes. Every night? Yes. Yeah, him every night. Okay. Is BJ hooping? Yes. Every night. It's cool, though. All right, these niggas is hooping.
Starting point is 00:14:50 So we got this guy coming in. MVP, hooping every other night. We got this nigga hooping every night. Stretch, too. Paul George. Every other night. Is Paul George hooping? That's a play.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah, he's solid. When they play. Don't overglaze the situation. All right, name me the boss of Celtics guys that are hooping. You don't got to name it. Look how they're playing. I'm asking the questions. Name me the guys that's hooping on the Boston Celtics.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Zailin Brown. One guy. That's all they need. All right. It's a team. So what we did. We don't talk hoop. Let's talk hoop.
Starting point is 00:15:19 We got four guys that can hoop. So why are they three games behind? Boston is hooping as a team. Boston been hooping. What you mean? So there's one guy behind because M.B. and Paul George have been getting healthy while the season has been going. Now they're healthy.
Starting point is 00:15:32 They're healthy now. They're getting their shit together. They're hurt every year, though. During the season. I say this in the beginning. If they progress and these guys get healthy, they're going to be dangerous. That's the if. Been the if for five years straight, but that's been the if.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Right now. We're talking about right now. I need to see it more. We're not talking about the if right now. It's been every year. We're talking about what we've just seen. Them niggins. I would like to see them.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And they just lost to the Hornets without M.B., which was a 20, 30 point deficit based on big fella being there. 46. I get it. I mean, I would like to see him be good, but I mean, I got to see it more. But he missed a stretch off earlier. Come on, man. But can you look at the Sixers team?
Starting point is 00:16:09 You have faith in the Sixers squad. If that big three can stay healthy, obviously Tyree's Maxie is taking over. Like they're healthy. I wouldn't want to play him. Like, healthy? I would not want to play them in a seven-game playoff series. That's just what it is. Because there's been proven nobody in the National Basketball Association can guard Joel and beat.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Nobody. You see how he looks out there. He's playing on one leg now. And doing what he's doing. So we know he's a threat always. And if you get Paul playing that somewhat of what we know Paul could be. And Tyrese Max is going to do him. They ain't not a bad team.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Kelly Ubre is competitive. I don't know what they're doing with Cal Lauer and Eric Gordon over there. Dead ass. Like, what do they, they just... Yeah. But you know, when they're ready, if they're ready, they'll step out there
Starting point is 00:17:02 and hit some shots. Eric, always hits a guy. Fuck around and get the fucking around and get hurt. Get her for sure. Fucking around with a nurse. At the 8. 39 years old over that bitch, go out of that bitch trying to guard.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Like, yeah. Like, no, but they are, they. Joel, like you said, he's a missed shit. 15, 16 games this year. 20. 20 games? 20. He's missed 20 games.
Starting point is 00:17:31 20 games out of 46. And he's still only playing like 27 minutes a night. So it's scary. It is scary if they're healthy. But like we all saying, man, it is a big if. That's all I'm saying. It is.
Starting point is 00:17:46 NB. training in the right direction. You got VJ. H. Kahn, you got Quentin Graf, you got some guys on Jeremy Kane starting to kind of figure
Starting point is 00:17:50 his stuff out now. He's been doing it. He's been a right direction. You still have a guy who plays on the 24th, I mean the 22nd, the 24th, right? That means that need and recover the way
Starting point is 00:18:02 it needed to be to play on the 26. So he had to miss the 26 to play on the 27. I think they figured it out, though. It don't mean that. It don't mean that at all. It don't mean that at all.
Starting point is 00:18:11 But that's the fourth. He would have to try to play with a 26, and then been out to 27. So I think they're figuring it out now. And that's what I'm saying. So it's like we know he probably can play three and a half games in 10 nights. Yeah. Right? Is that is that a winnable formula for an MVP?
Starting point is 00:18:38 In the playoffs. 25. If they get to 25, 7 and 4 is a winn. win that's winnable. Like, they get in the playoff series. Those are his stats right now. They got days in between, one day, two days in between, and they know what they can do with that knee.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I think they're using this time now to figure that part out. We talk about it. As long as they finish in the top six, they're dangerous. Yeah. Like I hear what you say. Say them says again. Then we talk about this when we said, y'all was saying it's cooked. They cooked.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Yeah, if he's not playing. He's not playing. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about when the, The knee was fucked up. Y'all was just like, man, that knee is fucked up. The Sixers were cooked. I said, if they rehab him right.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Yeah, that's what we all were in. And don't bring him in, like trying to play him whole heavy, heavy men is up front and leave him to the end of the season. Yeah, that's, yeah. Fuck the awards. Okay. Fuck the rest. All that shit. Let him be healthy near the end and let him take him over the top.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Okay. 25, 7, and 4 right now on 48% field goal percentage. On men's restriction. So let's not minutes restriction, game restriction. Well, let's talk about it. The difference. The fuck is the difference is if we play the day, we have a day off tomorrow, and we play the net thing and he can't play.
Starting point is 00:19:54 So we play Thursday. Not about him. We have a day on Friday. We play somebody Saturday and he misses that game. That's a game restriction. But he can play. He can play on all the games. They'd just rather him be fresh on the games that he need him.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Again. So in the playoffs. games so the knee can recover 100% because it's not a 100% knee. So like Yokic, right, when he's playing Orianas, when he's playing, they get to play all
Starting point is 00:20:23 the games. 100%. His knee doesn't allow that so he has to miss games for it to go 100 so he can be 100 in the game. They are afraid when I play this game today, we have a day off and then that next game, the knee is only 75%.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I need that at 100 because because that next game we play, it might be at 50%. So their game restrict them and say, well, you know what, we'll play you 30, 40 minutes if we need to, but you're going to miss tomorrow and the next game, then we'll play you on Sunday. That's not a winnable. We're good with that.
Starting point is 00:20:57 You know why? I'm looking at his minutes. We got tired. Has he played 30? We got, yeah. You played 46 in games. It's game restriction, not minute. He played 406 in overtime game.
Starting point is 00:21:07 So let's break it down. And be even playing at an all-n-M-B-A level as a late. Yeah, he's playing minutes. Still dealing with the lingering effects of the knee surgery and went back in April after playing only 19 games last season. So let's get to the numbers. The least he's played as 25. They was getting their doors blew off by Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:21:22 So he missed the game. He played a 45 minutes. So process has appeared in... Washington, they was beating the hell out of the Wizards. He played 25. So a beat in period in just 13 of the Sixers, first 30 games this season had a stretch where he missed nine-shirt games.
Starting point is 00:21:36 He was average 27 minutes per game during that stretch. He's played 13 of the last 16 games. games, averaging 34 minutes per game. But like shot said, for the season, 25 points, 8 rebounds, four assists in 26 games. When his last five games, averaging, averaging 10 rebounds, five assists. Come on, man. Shooting 52 cent from the field, playing nearly 36 minutes per game. So, shit, he's shooting 53 this month.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And that five game stretch includes his first triple double. He got an overtime win against the Rockets. Come on, man. We don't need you to do this. We don't need you to do this. Season high 46 minutes. What's not this guy? We got this guy averaging 32.
Starting point is 00:22:10 31. We cool. Come on. Big fella, chill. Come back when we play a good team. Can he sustain it? We consider everything. He had been through the last two seasons, play 50 days total game.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Okay, but the five. They can't compete without. We know that, right? Right. They can't compete without. That is the, that is a fact. You don't agree with that? What's their record without him?
Starting point is 00:22:36 The last five games. Right? That's what you said. The last five games. Last five games. Can you tell me the five games dates? These five games was played in what stretch of date? The 16th through the what?
Starting point is 00:22:52 So six is 10 and 10 without it be the season good. Let me get to you. Yeah, I'll tell you three days in between, three days in between, two days in between, three days in between. 10 and 10 without him. Shut up, so good. So he played on the fourth. 16, 19, fifth, 50s, 20, play 22nd and 24. Nigger, these niggins are scrambling like a motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:23:10 It's not five games in eight days. It's five games in how many days these five games were in? I believe 11 days ago. No. What's even more impressive, though? Why y'all are doing that, right? The last game was on the 27th. He played 35 minutes, 33 minutes, 40 minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Their last game was the 27th, 31, 36, 25, 33, 33, 46, 36, 29. Those his minutes play. Big, yes. There are gay, like, so he played on the first, the third, the fifth, the seventh, the night, the 12th. So he's having rest in between the game. Whether it's playing, whether it's the schedule, whatever it is, it's being beneficial to that need.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Whatever it is, it's been beneficial. 13 the last 16 games. He's only two days in between each game. Seven of the last nine games. So since January 12th, he's played seven games, Gil. Between the 12th and the 27. You said five, so there's been 11. I told you his last five.
Starting point is 00:24:01 And he missed two games in between. I know you stretch it out. I know you stretch it out. When he's getting cooked, you better move. You better move out the way. It's reality. We're trying to say if this team could be a championship team. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And then you throw out a status. This is what he's done in the last five games. And I'm saying, okay, I hear that. How many days did these five games happen? So he played five in the last seven of the last month? So he had to miss two games in between the seven to make it. And I'm saying, can you do that in the playoff? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:39 And be successful. Because people don't realize he's been in every playoff series. Are we forgetting this? Maxie, Paul George, and Embedde has played. The problem is them games are back to back to back, and that knee ain't recovering fast enough. We had knee injuries. So I know how I feel on a back-to-back or one day's rest.
Starting point is 00:25:06 We would love three days, rest. Right? We would love three days. days rest, but the knee can't, it needs more days. So he had to miss two days in between this, just for the knee. It's smart, but can they win something? But in the last 16 days he's played in the 13th. You know, no, no, I was about to say that.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Remember when he had the surgery? Remember when he had the surgery and he came back and the sixers were, sixers were where? They were like eighth, ninth or tenth or something. And he played like 12 straight games. Yeah, 12 straight games. And then he helped him get into the playoffs. He didn't lose in the first round.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah. And he actually played well. He wasn't supposed to play. He wasn't supposed to come back. But he was the game changer for them to get into the playoffs. After being just maxy, just maxi out there. NB comeback, big fella. Hey, he's giving it all he got with the little knee.
Starting point is 00:26:00 He out there. Gave it out. Now they figured it out. Hey, listen, we're not going to heavy load you in the beginning of the season like that. We're going to space this shit out and we're going to have you at the end of the season. When I hear the goal, right? When I hear a threat, I think championship. That's what I say no.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Now, if you're talking about winning a playoff series, they might be able to win a playoff series. Who's a threat to East? Can they win two playoffs? Who's a threat in the East? No, I don't know. Who's a threat in the East? Did you just hear what he said? Who's a threat in the East?
Starting point is 00:26:27 He said, a man came back to help them in the playoffs, couldn't even play in the playoffs. And then he ended up playing 19 games the next year. Like, that's what we're talking about. That's what we're talking about. He did that last playoff breach to miss the whole next season. Then have surgery this April? I mean, it just doesn't make sense. Who's a threat in the East?
Starting point is 00:26:46 You sound good. Who's a threat in the East? Not the Sixers. Not the Sixers. Not the Sixers. Detroit. I don't know if nobody's can beat nobody. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:56 No, I just said a threat. So we're going to avoid the questions? Just let me know. Go to the finals. I mean, go to the finals? Yeah, Detroit and the Knicks. Detroit and the Knicks. Detroit, Nick, too.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Yeah. Troy Knicks. Yep. And the six were not a threat. Okay. Let's just answer this question. If the Knicks are fully healthy, Shod, if the Knicks are fully healthy,
Starting point is 00:27:22 Philly is the best team in the East. Okay? If Michael Jordan was playing right now, he would be the best player in the NBA. Now, let's let me try again. 96 Michael Jordan. If he was playing today, he would average 40. Do you see the problem here?
Starting point is 00:27:41 Yeah, you sound crazy. That's the problem. You sound crazy. We know Michael Jordan can't play right now. But we know that the 6s are a fucking threat. We know that the 6s are a fucking threat. We know that. We know that it can't be healthy.
Starting point is 00:27:53 The 6s are a fucking threat. We know they can't be healthy. If the Boston Celtics are a threat, no, that, yeah, they are. The boss of Celtics are at number three in the East. So I hear you shot, but like the fact that we, We have to put an asterisk by. Don't have to.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Not this year because we haven't seen no injuries yet. We haven't seen nothing. What about that's playing 20 games only? We haven't seen any injuries that's setting them back this year. They have slowly been progressing. That don't mean nothing. Slowly been progressing. So it's an asterisk by it right now.
Starting point is 00:28:26 It can't be because everyone in the East right now is like this. So you got number three. Boston is number three with one player. No, they got a thing. That one player. And they're just him, they got a team. I'm not admitting what they doing.
Starting point is 00:28:41 He's playing better than all. Jaylen Brown is the guy holding the fork down. Yes, yes. You got Philly with Mb. Maxie. McCain, DJ, you got guys that are hooping. Yeah, but the fact is
Starting point is 00:28:56 that that man can wake up tomorrow and that motherfucker need be like, nah. You've been wrong. And it's been evidence, though. It isn't like we're making. He's been wrong. Every time he says this, he's been wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:10 If we said it in the playoffs, he just won't. I'm guaranteed if we say, is it obvious? He just reminded us his take. Guarantee, 70-something percent. I'm right. He just reminded us his take of MB coming back when we all said don't because it's going to hurt him. It didn't hurt him. It helped him get to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And then it helped him get in. It's no matter. He messed up. He wanted to show his team that they can do something. And they didn't. They did. They got to the playoffs. And they lost.
Starting point is 00:29:38 No matter. They got there. You missed the whole season to do that? What are you talking about? That wasn't the point. He got there. He knew he wasn't going to be able to play the whole rest. That's, he got the surgery.
Starting point is 00:29:48 He went to the fucking Olympics and it got worse. True. Did it not? Yep. We all said, don't go. We all said, don't go. Didn't he got a done surgery? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:58 They get another surgery? Now, now it's recovered. Now he's recovered. Now he's taken a precaution of how. of how he comes back. And now it looks like he has figured it out. Let me tell you what he looks like now. Every time he falls the Anthony Davis thing now.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Dude. He's recovered from his 12 games already. He gets up now. He missed games. Did you see how that shit? He's going to fucking knee.
Starting point is 00:30:23 He hasn't even wearing the brace. He's not even wearing the ass brazen. Hey, we're just going to do this. He fought. He should. They should. Can you give me that dope he's on? I want to be this to look.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Give me the dope he's on. This shit seems fun over here. So I don't think you're on dope. I think you're a fun. No, no, no, no, he's on it. Hey, can you get me? It's called pussy and pussy. Nigger, that's all I'm on.
Starting point is 00:30:48 I don't do nothing but that. You can't buy you on what I'm on. I don't know. Hey, chat, me. Hey, 70% of a pussy and piss. Is it obvious that he's on? Come on. He's an obvious.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I don't understand. That is the obvious. We watch it. We have watched the hoops. Tendi ain't doing it. We asked the chat, is it obvious? Yes. 65% say, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Thank you. Almost. But this was a previous, is it obvious? No, not true. Not true. Not true. Not the job. By the time, by the time,
Starting point is 00:31:18 we put this in the office. It's about 86%. Do we want Joe L&B to be healthy? Yes, absolutely. We want him healthy. But 75% of Yuel Mb is going to help us get to the player. The way they figure, I think they're figuring it out, but it's still.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Still dealing with an entity that don't have ears, right? We're dealing with a knee that this motherfucker don't do what he want to. But what we saw in the past two seasons to what we're saying right now is there at least a reason for optimism if I told you, Jordan B played 13 the last 16 games in distress. What happened? Okay. I get that. No, I said.
Starting point is 00:31:55 No, I'm sorry. You deserve a raise. Oh, no. You deserve a raise in that type of question. That scene is facts. They're trending in the right direction. No, say what you just said again. He played 13 of the first 30 games.
Starting point is 00:32:08 He had a stretch of the first 30. He had a stretch where he missed nine straight, dealing with the knee. Played 13 of the last 16 games. Where we stand right now at this current month. What is the record? It's trending in the right direction. No, in the last 13 games. I'll give them that.
Starting point is 00:32:21 They trended in the right direction. The question was, is this reason to show optimism that they want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she wanted to throw out numbers. What is the record? You already know that because you've got to get it on. record in the last 13 games. We got to get this.
Starting point is 00:32:37 We got to give us the right direction. Look at the last. It was like he was never going to play again. 9 and 4 in the last 13 games in the is that trend in the right direction? That's a fucking winning percentage. Yes. What the fuck are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:32:51 Yes. Nine and four is winning, ain't it? Nine and four in the last 13 games. Bro, do you just go against anything? Because Opinism. Nine and four is a great winning record. So.
Starting point is 00:33:03 But he argues. a team that was 32 and 4 but he lost their favorite team twice and he says they're cooked they're done they're figured out
Starting point is 00:33:15 coming from the same man 9 and 4 oh my God championship ready a team that was 20 games in front of everybody they lose twice to the team he likes
Starting point is 00:33:25 they're cooked there was boom shock a lock what's their record now they're calling with the rest of the field we got beef with Canada because of him They're the same with Detroit.
Starting point is 00:33:37 They're the same record as Detroit, right? Then what is that? Number one? No, 10 losses? What? The OKC, they lost 11, 10, 10 or 11 games? They are. They're both and still be at four, right?
Starting point is 00:33:49 No. No? They're 38 and 10. They'll still be at four? 38 and 10, the pitchers are 34 and 11. Okay, okay. So when I said it, they started losing. When I said it, they started losing.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Okay, I just making sure. I don't want to get loud and shit. Started losing. You don't want to start getting loud and shit. So you're more optimistic about the Sixers than the Thunder? No, you know a basketball. You said to talk. Was that the fucking question?
Starting point is 00:34:14 No, no, I'm asking you. The question was, are we optimistic about the Sixers making the Blitz? You don't really think that, dude. Yes. You're not more optimistic as the Sixers are more of a threat than the Thunder. Bro, are you all. Bro, are you niggas that cook that you got to start asking random fucking questions? After not answering the fucking question that you just avoided the question.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Now you're going to come over here and be like, Are you saying, nigga, y'all niggas are so... I didn't bring the crop line. I need that type of stuff. You haven't been in the trap bag yet. You haven't needed to drop by then. I ain't made the Norris cold season in yet. That's what I ain't done yet.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I need to make the Norris cold. He's new. He's new. He's new. He's new. I ain't even bring the book. I left the book in the corner. Normally you talk, but I didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Okay, remember. OJ, he don't think that for real. Are we optimism? Are we optimistic for the sixers or not? That's what the question was. But I'm asking you, though. I'm not listening to you. I'm not listening to you.
Starting point is 00:35:11 They are headed in the right direction. Remember, we went first. They are. Remember, he's the one that called him process me. He don't like him. Right? He don't like Paul George, right? He don't like nobody on the 76ers,
Starting point is 00:35:20 but we all went to 76ers, so he got to go to the opposite. No, you all said they were cooked, too. What the fuck are you talking about? You're just making shit up. We said cooked. He said, and I said cook, too, digger? We all agree. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:35:36 I just said if they all get healthy nigger they can make a motherfucking round. We all agreed. That beard, boy, that beard got a nigga. You did not say he started off his question with in the middle of your conversation. Are we going to talk who? Are we going to talk who? Oh my.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Do they not look good? Do they not look good? Talking who means do these guys not look like they're good to get to contend in the East? That's talking who. You're going to let him do this. You're going to let him do this. You're going to let him.
Starting point is 00:36:04 He said they were cooked with us. This is not your size. We're not saying. We're going to talk who. He was here. He was here. He was here. We were all here.
Starting point is 00:36:13 You're not talking about today. I'm talking about today. We know he already said they cooked. He's contradicted himself today because we all of them. I'm not contradicting shit. I said they are a threat. They can't fucking get their shit together. When this nigga is on the fucking restrictions that he is, the way that they
Starting point is 00:36:29 look, the way that they look, they can make it run. So I'm not going to share what we already talked about because I already talked to this nigga about this shit about what I feel about Philly. So it's going to happen. Shosh Dlamas never fucking, he never fails, bro. Shosh Damos has also been training in the right direction like that. They are fucking, obviously they're a threat. So you wouldn't be surprised it's a thunder play against the Sixers in the finals?
Starting point is 00:36:52 No, I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised about anybody making it to the finals. Oh, nice, nice. That's the, okay. The wizard. Okay, okay. I've digress. What's the next, though, Scy?
Starting point is 00:37:05 Did the Paces almost make it to the final? Okay. The Paces almost made it to the final. I didn't know we'd have this period of a conversation over the Philadelphia of the 76. So they made it? The Pace's made it to the final? The Paces made it to the final. The Paces made it to the final.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Were you surprised? Highly injury away. You were surprised? Okay, so you can't be surprised. So you won't be surprised if the field is made. No, I haven't ever. Okay. Same surprise?
Starting point is 00:37:30 Remember. Before today, in his mind, Phil is. He's cooked. We said cooked today. Cooked. Cooked. What you say? Cooked. Right? Okay, you said if healthy. We all said it. We all said it. We all said it. It was a fit we all we all right. He's fighting for his life right now. He won't let it go. He's fighting for his life. I know when you're done. I know when you're done. I'm fighting for my life. Cook, cook, cook, cook if they're healthy. If they're healthy, right? Yeah. he's always said cook. That's why I said cook.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Because I wanted to see him reverse. Because he goes to last. He don't want to agree with us. So he goes the opposite. He couldn't bring out that he couldn't cook today because we already chose cook. We already chose cook. Now he got to eat. Eat that processed meat, your stomach hurt.
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Starting point is 00:38:47 I'm trying to see if Gil's Arena's cooked or not. Hit that like button for me. Let's see him we can get trended back in the right direction as well. But before the game against the Bucks, MB's former head coach, Doc Rivers had high praise for the former MVP. You know, I was telling a very, very, very, Hall of Fame player that I coached, that he's the most talented player. Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:39:08 It was like, what? I was like he is. You know, it's the things that you guys see, and then the things you actually don't see in practice sometimes that he can do. Did you get surgery on that? It's incredible. It really is. You know, unfortunately, for me, I never had him healthy once in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:39:27 He wasn't healthy last year. He wasn't healthy the year before. You know, that's five years. you're straight, I think. And if you ever gets to the playoffs healthy, especially with they've had some big pieces here, they're going to be
Starting point is 00:39:42 a dangerous team, but it's all going to come down to that. Talk to women with that? Nothing's changed. Like, yo, say the same thing we said. How do you get that off? You definitely got that thing.
Starting point is 00:39:56 What's that motherfucker? You definitely need that clarification box. From that cigarette commercial Go back at that clarification box. No, he's like that. Yeah, Doc, you know, we need, he did his shit, need subtitles.
Starting point is 00:40:08 Or now. Oh, my name is Murnan. What, hey, jeez, man. Besides. God damn, Glenn. Like, ooh, shit, juicy mouth. Doc Rivers said, Embedding most talented players he's ever coach.
Starting point is 00:40:22 So Rivers coached several current and four more Hall of Famers during his career, which include Tracy McGrady, Grand Hill, Paul, Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Ray Island, Chris Paul, Y, Leonard, James Hardin, and, Currently, Janice Andrew Nacompo. So what's your reaction to Dr. River saying, Joe Ellen Beat is the most talented player he's ever coached. I can't challenge a coach who's watching a player
Starting point is 00:40:43 every single day in real time, right? In practice, in the games, preparation, right? The raw talent that we don't see outside what the game shows. So the only person that I can see that was. was super talented during his tenure, right? You name it James, that James wasn't James when he was there. When it comes to just pure talent, it will probably just be T-MAC, because he did have T-Mack in that 22, the 202-0-3 year when he led the league. He led the league in scoring and was fourth and MVP voting.
Starting point is 00:41:26 So it would just be those two, right, that would fit this category. what he's talking about. So if he chose Embed, I can't, I can't argue with someone who's coaching his guys. So both of them were top tier super talented guys, right? He has a younger, he had a younger T-MAC, right? But there was T-MAC. So it's between them too, so I'm going to, that's who he picked. That's who he pick.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I can't fight that. So. Nor is your agreement, Dr. Rueber, Dr. Rueber, St. Dronel will be the most talented player that he's ever coached. Yeah, I mean, he gets to see him behind the scenes every day. I agree. T-Mack would be my only argument. You know, when he got Garnett, Garnett was kind of like a little bit past his prime because the ticket was ultra-talented too. But, I mean, I think it's word around the league how talented Joelle and B is. Like, I've been knowing about Joel Embed. Like, his ones, his elite, his skill set, post three, mid-range, like, I've been
Starting point is 00:42:26 knowing about his talent. It was never about his talent. You know, everybody knows he put 70 on Wimby. like, it's clear what his talent is. It's always been about his health. So I definitely agree he's probably the most talented Doc ever coached. Can you agree with Doc Rivers saying adrenaline be the most talented players ever coached?
Starting point is 00:42:43 You got a long list of players that he's coaching his career. Yeah, I agree with the couch, but if I'm not mistaken, I wouldn't, didn't Grant get there the same time as T-M-AT? Yeah, but that was the foot one. He was held you still then, right?
Starting point is 00:43:03 No, that was Briefly. Briefly. Yeah, he didn't get that. I was thinking about that, too. I'm going to go. I agree with what they're saying, because I,
Starting point is 00:43:11 I played against that Tracy McGrady. Four times that year. Yeah. And he was hell. But to you guys' point that you're making, they get to, Doc gets to see the totality of the work and the skills.
Starting point is 00:43:30 behind closed doors. We get to see it when the lights are on. So, yeah, no, you can't go against what he's saying, but not to, he has coach some talented guys. Yeah, like, it's a question between him and Mack, but can't argue with what his assessment is. Mr. B, you agree with Doc Rivers? I mean, you know, just like they say,
Starting point is 00:43:58 can't really challenge him. I mean, that's what he sees every day. I would like to throw Paul Pierce in there. I just felt, you know, he got Paul when Paul was at the top of his career, winning championships. I mean, you know, won a championship, of course, went to the finals two times, and Paul just elevated it. That's when I got to see Paul really elevate his game to the next level. So I would have to put Paul Pierce in there for me.
Starting point is 00:44:23 That's a good one. The truth. I forgot about that. That's when I got he had Paul early. Cemetery lyrics. No. Talent. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:31 We're talking about talent here. Paul is a great basketball player. Don't get me wrong. We're talking about pure talent here. Like, no, it's not a, it's not a, Paul is him, but it's not a question. That's a good one. It's a good one.
Starting point is 00:44:46 I mean, I'm sure you with Doc Rivers saying that Joel M. B., most talented player he's ever coach. How many MVP did he coach? MVP's? And they won at that year? With him or without him? Like they won. the MVP with him just Jololumbi right yeah it just be yeah that one I think
Starting point is 00:45:11 while he was there only have yeah Paul Pierce with the final yeah yeah yeah he's got the final yeah yeah he said finals yeah probably final MVP yeah so well so well yeah yeah like I said you can't argue man it's so not to bring up old shit but uh Rashad we had no no it's new it was oh yeah I was over yeah I was wait till everybody was done, then I was going to ask where that dope at. Dope man, dope man. P-Shee and push-ups. Do it?
Starting point is 00:45:39 Huh? Mm-hmm. We asked the chat, is it obvious Rashad is on dope as Gil requested? 90%. Is he on dope or is he dope? Is it obvious Rashad is on dope? 90% is he dope? You heard what I asked.
Starting point is 00:45:51 64% say yes, 64% but 64% of the chat is known to be haters. No, no. No. Not be haters. I take. I take. If that's a called an L for me, I'll take it. No.
Starting point is 00:46:02 I got the O KC record right now I got an OKC type record You did say the Hornets 3 better than the I'm on an MVP type of season type of run Or 76th or this is Nine and four generational run right now You have made a lot of very accurate prediction To interrupt greatness right now
Starting point is 00:46:21 I'll let you get what You did say the Hornets better than the bucks Early in the season I said a lot of bullshit A lot of delusional shit He did say a lot of delusional shit He did say a lot of delusional He did say that
Starting point is 00:46:32 He did say the buck. He did say that. He was accurate right now. Hornets are ahead of the bucks in the standing. All right. That's there. That's sad. I'm nigger in my ass.
Starting point is 00:46:45 They are outscoring their opponents. They are outscoring their opponents. Do you notice that, right? They have the best net rating in the league. They are outscoring their opponents and have a losing record. They're a shit team. I don't give a what you said about the Charlotte Harness, bro. But I trust in them more than the bucks.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Okay. That's not hard. to do without Janus. Absolutely. That was the whole conversation. Without Janus, okay, cool, but we're not doing that. Best net rating in January. And they all of got to. Six row wins of the 15 or more.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah. Two other two. Since 2001. Since 2001, 2002. 2012. Yeah, the heat. The heat in 2013. They ain't been winning.
Starting point is 00:47:24 There's a lot of things going on. They're in the basement. All right. Well, let's keep this thing moving. Lakers, we're in Cleveland Wednesday night for a game against the Cabbs, LeBron returned to where his NBA career started for what could be the final time in his NBA career. So, LeBron was emotional if he sat on the bench watching the Cavs tribute video in the first quarter showed highlights of his legendary Game 5 performance of the Easter Conference Finals against the Pistons.
Starting point is 00:47:51 22-year-old James scored 48 points, included 25 straight to finish the game to give the Cav the double overtime win. Got out of that. Had the tea whole nice box of tissue, looked like the hotel tissue. That you might get stained at a risk, Carlton, or comparable level of hotel. Yeah, that crying, shit. Some of you know, it's not. Oh, that's right. Man, come on.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yo, why don't use the tile? Microphabor's things. Might be, it might be, skin might be sensitive. I don't know. He never really used a towel. He never had. I just, I just wonder.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I just always wondered. Brown, wiped away. They get it on. Because, you know, he can get, listen. Okay, they can get a plain ones. That's fine. I can get a plain white one. Yeah, he got out of the plain white tiles.
Starting point is 00:48:31 They can bring it. That's all, I'm saying. They change them for the playoffs. So it's... I just wonder. Brown wiped away tears as he received a standing ovation from the Cleveland Cloud. Fortunately, Brian had one of his worst games of the season. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:45 Finns with 11 points on 3 of 10 shooting emotional guilt. Heart, you overcome those. First time scoring under 20 points in the 13 times he's played in Cleveland as an opposing player. Lakers suffered their worst loss of the season getting smacked by 30 points. Outscrowed by 20 in the third quarter. Some in the arena are happy to see that happen.
Starting point is 00:49:02 In that arena? In our arena. Oh. Gills Arena. One man in particular. Oh, you're talking about beating the Lakers. Oh, I thought to... That wasn't the story of the game.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Unfortunately, this was... One of 82. Brownie proved to be one of the few bright spots for the purple and gold. Finished with eight points on three or three shooting. And his eight minutes of action had a nice dunk. So after the game, LeBron reflected on playing in Cleveland. On the way here during the game, at any point, do you think, like, this could be the last game I play here, so I better soak it in?
Starting point is 00:49:30 I mean, yes, I mean, that's every road arena that I've been in, you know, I think I talked about that, that just trying to take everything in, not take the moments for granted, because it could be, you know, I obviously haven't made a decision on the future, but it very well could be. So, you know, no matter if it's here or, you know, going to Washington playing the next game, garden, Barclay, you know, on this trip. So obviously, and obviously it means a little bit more here for me personally because of, you know, I grew up, you know, 35 minutes south of year. So, but yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Hearing LeBron's comment, seeing the emotion has rarely been that emotional in return to Cleveland. Do you think Bron just played his last game in Cleveland? Did he play his last game? No, he didn't play his last game in Cleveland. Okay. No. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Coming into the season, I thought he was going to definitely play another year, but I ain't never seen him be emotional like that during the game. You're very familiar with the Bronx? Well, you never seen him get praise. like that in this generation of negativity right we're talking about a guy who
Starting point is 00:50:40 has been talked about in a negative way basically since he's came into the league right so he's really having in real time got his flowers when he left right when he left burned jersey they burned his jersey he came back they won championships yeah now
Starting point is 00:50:56 because of the crowd says wait this might be your final year let us show you the love that you deserve. They gave it to him. He was not expecting that. So he's hearing his whole body of work being cheered for in real time, and it looked like it caught his ass off guard. Because he's not like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:17 Now, you got to think about everything he's done in this league. Yeah, but the very fact that he goes back to Cleveland, and they, it's not like, oh, you usually here. That wasn't last year. They didn't do that last year or year. They did something different here in that that show like, Yo, wait, everything you did for us, bro. We need.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yeah, but normally he'd be so locked in. It don't matter what you say or do to him. He don't get emotional. The fact that he was even, like, cognitive of that showing me, like, is getting towards the... Look at him. He is locked in at first. Normally, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Tears started happening. I'm like, oh, shit. Right to cry. I know. Like that. Real tears? And that's the first time. It hit different, back.
Starting point is 00:51:51 That's the first time I've received. But that's the first time they did. He haven't cried other than when Kobe died, and when he got the record. He ain't cried in the NBA arena like that during the game. the fact that he was even locked in and tuned into that, let me know, like, we might be at the end now. Because I never conceptualized this is the end until that.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I was like, dang, like, this actually might be the end. So, I just got to know. So he wasn't praised and, like, love, like, before he... He's trying to start shit. Oh, I'm just trying to start. I hear you. Let him ask you. Let him ask you.
Starting point is 00:52:32 So before he left, it wasn't love. Before he left, what was love? Before the decision on I'm going to South Beach shit. So he wasn't loved like that? Like, there wasn't no negative. Wasn't nobody talking negative about him before he left? In Cleveland? No, he was.
Starting point is 00:52:51 No, he was like beloved by the mask. No, what I'm saying, he was. The witness, we are witnessing. He was loved? He came back, he was loved. Now this is. No, I'm talking about before he left. Yeah, he was loved.
Starting point is 00:53:03 And then that's when the... Burger. That's when all the negative and the hate started then. Then he came back. I'm on Terminator mode. But you stated that beforehand he came into the league.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Everybody was talking shit. He ain't... No, that's the outside world. Now he's at the end of his road. Right? Yes. He's at the end of his road. He don't see many flowers
Starting point is 00:53:29 at his destination. for the greatest. Okay. Or one of the greatest. He don't see the flowers. You don't think so? Then he goes back to the place where it started. Don't think people so bad.
Starting point is 00:53:40 And the flowers are as loud as the game he has given them. And that he felt that in real time. Like if you went back to Cincinnati right now. And they came in there and said, man, King and Martin, and they just did these videos. You're going to break because you won't. They do it every time I go back. But they're doing it to another time.
Starting point is 00:54:01 level it broke every time I go back it broke him it gave me it gave a whole different feeling I I don't know that's all I'm saying yeah I'm saying because he's not the he's not in Superman mode yeah I right but the the LeBron they seen before was I'm mentally focused he's in vulnerable stage right now I just this is the end I'm thinking about the end happening you know this is it of course I just thought the switch happened from being being below I just I just thought the switch happened from being beloved, beloved. Everybody has something. Everybody's praising, praising, praising. He made the decision to leave
Starting point is 00:54:36 to go to Miami, and then that's when all the hate, and for every person that loved him, somebody had a negative comment then. Yeah, so, yeah, but that's all I was, yeah. In 2003, what's the name? The same one, the same one. The same one? The same one. Okay, I did. Okay, I did.
Starting point is 00:54:52 They don't change. They don't change. They don't change whether they like, they... Just blame it on the Jordan fans. I'm going to say, I think Brian get loved, though. Do he get hate? He's He get a hey yeah, but he get a lot of love. It's just not that social media shit, everybody is. I don't let the narrative. He's worn it up.
Starting point is 00:55:06 He gets more hate him. He got to love. He got to love him the way he wanted. He got to love him the way he wanted. He gets so much hate like because of that decision, bro. I'm just telling. It was three decisions. The first.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It was three different decisions. No, just the first one. He left and then he left. I did too. I'm just saying that first decision, him doing that, that rub people, they roll up some fans. or people around the sports world the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:55:32 That's just what it was. He left Cleveland, left a team that he had control over, and that was his team and family leave, that rubbed some people the wrong way. And that's when, my opinion, that's when the hate started. No, I get it, but, you know, just like, but nowadays it's as loud as much of social media. Like, we all played.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah. We all are human. And sometimes we, we, just like any comment, right? It can be a hundred good comments, two negative ones we focus on that. Negative, yeah. Right? So social media, he only sees negative, right? So when you're talking about like, this is the end of my career, this could be the last dance.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And this is the standing ovation they gave me. Oh, yeah, that's just, it was. I know, I told him, I got booed going back that motherfucker. I texted him and I was like, I felt like, yeah, they was born in the child. Like that shit felt good, like as a fan, just like, damn. Yeah, they used to booed. He was asking him. Did he leave you on red?
Starting point is 00:56:30 He left me on red. He left me on red. He left me on red. I said it's the Tyler Mitchell city now. It's not a Mitchell city now, nigga. Hey, he didn't not respond to me, god damn. We will talk about that momentarily. He probably deleted my dog.
Starting point is 00:56:44 They did at one point when he used to booed the shit out of him when he went back to that motherfucker. Very mean spirit. And the warm up. So I get the emotion now to come back from that, getting booed every time you touch the ball going back to this. Yeah. That would do something. They moved his billboard. That's what I went back to Washington.
Starting point is 00:57:00 That's why I got to watch it because it's John Wall Day. They have done it in John Wall today. But I had went back and I was scared to go back. I was like, yeah, last time I was there, they booed the point out of me. I'm good, I'm good. And then when I went and then it was a stunning ovation
Starting point is 00:57:13 all loved, I damn they cried. It has to be a horrible feeling to get moved by the people playing. Yeah. Because we all want to be recognized. Yeah, that's a suck. If I went back to Jersey first and them niggas bood the shit out of me,
Starting point is 00:57:23 yeah, that would. Yeah, that would. And I had no, it wasn't my choice. To go off the leave. Like... Did it hurt your feelings here? What? No, they're nigga.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Who? They're getting booed. They don't... It doesn't happen. That didn't happen. When I went back, my first trip, it came more of crew signs in that bitch. Like, no, I had my own section in Jersey.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Did that make your heart flutter? Yeah. Absolutely, yeah. Hey, you know what? I got somebody who... Hey, Roshan. They's booing right now. Nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:57:51 They're booing right now. No. No. No. Every time they didn't see me. Boo! Boo! Boo!
Starting point is 00:57:55 Boo! They boo! They boo! Boo, they booed me in the airport when I touchdown. Boo, I moved everywhere. How did it feel last year? What was last year? When you went back.
Starting point is 00:58:05 Yeah. Went back where? Two years ago last year, you went back? Yeah. To the gym? Yeah, when you went back. I didn't see nobody when I went back. Not when you went, but just the school.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Just you being back and... Like I said, well, nobody there. I was in and out. But how you feel? It was in and out. That was in it. now. My family still live there, so I come to see the man. The motherfucker said, you can't come on campus, so I went on campus.
Starting point is 00:58:32 And said, okay, I'm here. What's up? How y'all doing? I went to the Smith Center. I seen Hubert and all them. Hey, what's up? Cool. Yeah. They wouldn't let me downstairs and said, you're not allowed in this facility. Wow. Yeah. It took all my shit down. You know what I'm saying? It's all good. You know, I get booed. Bitches booed me, niggas booed me. It's all good. They booed me as well It's all good Check to check
Starting point is 00:58:57 Yeah but it's a different So like that feeling of Like when you leave on your When you leave on your terms Or the team Get rid of you That's different for the fans I don't know if people know
Starting point is 00:59:07 It's a different feeling For the fans, right? Shout out Bronnie too Brony too Shout out Brony James Eight minutes Eight points three for three
Starting point is 00:59:15 Had a knock at home He was supposed to be playing The whole night He was in a little groove His first two His first two points of his career was there, his first bucket, was in Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Full second one. Like that's what I said. It's just, like, if you were just a true fan of just basketball and you're trying to write your story, right?
Starting point is 00:59:38 It's hard to beat this family's story, right? If you're a fan, if you're a Cleveland fan, and you've been there since LeBron, I know you felt some type of way. Watching him as a kid come, and put that jersey on and play and watch his highlights to him be a family man, watching his baby born, watching the baby grow up, watching him run on a cord,
Starting point is 01:00:03 do all this and do all that, to then see him score his first bucket there, then to see him come back and do this for you. That, you know, as a fan, that's a very different feeling. How was it, Shia? Did you cry too? Yes. You did? You did. You cried for brunt, twice. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:19 You're emotional, huh? Did you wipe the tears with a head? Tissue or towel. I felt some type of way about it. Okay, shirt. Y'all ever seen the Truman show? Classic quality cinema. Good movie, right?
Starting point is 01:00:30 Mm-hmm. Would it felt like the Truman Show. I mean, COVID. It kind of do, right? It after a good evening. It's gonna do. Watching this whole life. Obie's like, right in front of them.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Messages, it's like. Yeah, it's a shit. But, hey, listen, I'm going to lie. They're different. There's a difference between, like, when you talk about the goat debate and when you talk about the how it ended, two of them so far their their mic drop
Starting point is 01:00:57 I don't count the Wizard Day but their mic drop was on some epic shit Jordan's mic drop with the game went that epic Kobe finishing with sick those are epic moments man that when you started on greatness
Starting point is 01:01:15 ended on greatness that's different you're writing it you know what I mean so LeBron dropping 11 on 3-10 shooting, not epic moment. That would lead us to believe. That would leave me to believe that his... He got one more.
Starting point is 01:01:26 He got one or not the last time. You know what? You know what? Not his last time coming to Cleveland. I want to make bold prediction. His last year, whatever team he's on, his last game will be in Cleveland. Meaning the way that's scheduled,
Starting point is 01:01:51 if he plays for the lake, And next year, that last game of the season is in Cleveland on the road trip. That's the end. Any Western Conference team you're going to be on, if he's standing there. West. They're going to make that the last game. They're going to make that the last game. Could his last game be a home game be a home game in Cleveland?
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yes. Or can be a home game. Either way it's ending in Cleveland. Yeah, I just like it's so next year when it come out, I'm just looking all the way to the end. I know. It ain't ready yet. ready yet. It ain't ready.
Starting point is 01:02:24 He told them that's what they talked about it. He told him that shit. He told him the script. No, he told your ass a script. You do have a relationship with players that seem to do a lot. I'm sure it's going to happen. I was going to ask you guys.
Starting point is 01:02:37 You better tell them, niggis. Brian, obviously, on an expiring contract with the Lakers, A.R-C need to go. Is there a R-C-Z-A-R? You got to get the fucking right. Yeah, we ain't playing. We got some. somebody we're trying to get, man. I got to push that
Starting point is 01:02:53 here. We got to make that train. We got A.D. coming back. We got Fox on the weather. We got a lot of shit. You know, there's a lot of pieces. We got to make it. A.R. It's on the shit, man. Follow the script, man. I'm trying to be polite about it, man. We got
Starting point is 01:03:10 we got enough closer up to the West Coast now. We got Fox just right here. We got A.D. just right here. We got Zach Levine. Just right here. You know what I mean? They all Or under one roof You know what I mean? Hey
Starting point is 01:03:25 We hear me Real good We're gonna be like it's real good Yeah Okay We just need a little help Mm-hmm Say y'all
Starting point is 01:03:39 Just come on man We need you, man Do it for the coach Yeah Brown also talked about Potential having a farewell tour SETI He hasn't had the conversation
Starting point is 01:03:50 with his help or himself and his family on when he will actually retire but said he hasn't put much thought into a farewell tour to Norris we had you on this couch previously and you said you could see it going either way with LeBron and a farewell tour.
Starting point is 01:04:00 He could either do it or he could just ghost out the function. Yeah, because I think him doing it is going to get so much backlash. So people going to show him his love, obviously, but then it's also going to be the other side to it. But then he also
Starting point is 01:04:15 it'll make you appreciate him more if he don't say nothing. it'll make you tune in more because you're going to always want to know like dang is he dipping out or not so it's going to force fans to go to those games and watch so I think either way his personality don't seem like the farewell tour type you know but you might get talked into it because you know you want to give you want to give the greats they flowers in a special way you know and I think he would deserve a fair world tour if he wanted to do one but if he didn't he always quote that j-Z line you know maybe they'll appreciate me when I fade
Starting point is 01:04:49 The black, he always said that, so maybe that might be how he go out. You know, he might just play his last year and be like, I'm out. And if you ain't appreciated it, then you ain't appreciated it. So I can see it going either way. That 98 year, yeah, MJ didn't have the farewell because he didn't think that. They documented everything. They did document it. They knew it was the end now.
Starting point is 01:05:18 But he didn't give a farewell to it because it was only, I'm only retiring if Phil Jackson's and gets fired. Well, they said they was going to come. I know he said he was going to get, but you know, calling the nigga bluff is one thing. Saying he, I'm a fire you. You win three in a row, and you still do it. That's bossy. That's what he did. Not even Jerry Crout. That's the owner had to clear that.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Well, I could have overruled and said, nah, I ain't doing it. So the owner. And what happened? What happened to the franchise? They ain't been the same sense. Yeah. All right, so let's keep this thing moving still on this topic.
Starting point is 01:05:54 But Donovan Mitchell led the Cavs with 25 points. Jalen Tyson had 20. After the Cavs win, ESPN interview Mitchell and Tyson on the court, with Tyson offering these thoughts on LeBron's return to Cleveland. And certainly this could be potentially LeBron's last game in this building. How would you characterize his impact on this city and the franchise? Well, you could say something. This is it Donald Mitchell City now.
Starting point is 01:06:16 It's Donald Mitchell City now. When he comes back here, we're going to make sure that everybody moved for him like that they did for him. So this is his stuff. This is his city. Yes, sir. Donovan, do you have any thoughts on both? As much as I appreciate that, you know, at the end of the day, he's laid the foundation, right? Like, they've done a lot for the city being from here.
Starting point is 01:06:34 You know, obviously, you want to replicate that, you know what I'm saying? So he deserves the energy that he's got here. At the end of the day, for his time, in the 50-something years, for us for trying to do it, obviously, differently, but at the end of the day, we're trying to find ways to go out there and bring a city a ton of championship. But when you have a support like that, you know what I mean from your team makes, it means to world. Moments after that, the black S-U. pulled up to Rocket Arena. And in his post-game availability, Tyson clarified his comment.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Yeah, I mean, there was no disrespect that. I didn't want to despair to step on the vice's toes. That's one of the greatest players ever played a game. Obviously, I was a cat fan growing up because of him, right? I didn't want to take away him, but I just wanted to get Donnie's flowers. That was my biggest goal in it. And if I offended anybody or anybody got mad about it, I'm sorry. I take personal responsibility, but I just want to give command of us to us.
Starting point is 01:07:26 We want to do the same thing that Brian and did here. We want to do that with him as our leader. That boy, that though had a Jeb-Degg moment. I'm sorry. The funny part about it, Donovan over there, like, yeah, yeah. That's that Jeff Teague, right? Remember Jim T says something? That phone started fluttering.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Oh, shit. Hello? Yeah, I take it off. I take it back. They got boomed on quick, didn't he? He said, I take responsibility. He needed to. He was a crime.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I don't, listen, what he said wasn't offensive, man. That's just what teammates do, right? You know, because they're in there in real time. They're doing exactly what we all do when whoever comes back. This is our city now. You old news. That's just basketball, man. So the teammate did exactly what the teammate.
Starting point is 01:08:20 He's going to overhymy. He'll put that battery in your back. You know, Donovan didn't fall for it. It's not like he's a professional. Fucking bossy, right? What the score was. What he said? What he's saying.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Jaylon Tyson is 23 years old. I know. I don't. Like, it wasn't, it wasn't offensive. It's considered normal behavior from an athlete of a teammate. We watched him get praised. Like, oh, damn, I ain't know y'all got that. out, you know, and it's like, yo, hey, we're good.
Starting point is 01:08:55 Mitchell! So, you know. Donovan Mitchell City now. He don't have to apologize, man. You felt the need to do. You did what you needed to do as a teammate. Yeah, I'm not apologizing to that. You said what?
Starting point is 01:09:09 I said, I'm not apologizing for that. I wouldn't have apologized. Yeah, the apologizing part is crazy. I'm about to say he had to apologize. And the way he apart, because it's like, he didn't have to apologize. I was sticking up on my team, man. Like, if I was crazy, I didn't mean to offend nobody.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Yeah. But I'm just looking out for my guy. So, Brian is nobody? No, I don't think he should have said that, though. I don't, I don't think he should apologize either, though. I'm just looking out for my guy. Yeah. He was no need to.
Starting point is 01:09:33 He said what you said. He's 23 years old. That's his bet. Now, go apologize to Brian. He feed me. Brown City for sure. I'm trying to get paid. No, no, I hear y'all.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Like, y'all wouldn't have did it. I'm pretty sure he was taking the same thing until he looked on his phone. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You're about you can be traded to Budapest. Or you better apologize. I mean, hey, I'm sorry. No, listen.
Starting point is 01:09:56 If you got that much power, then you should go back to Cleveland. Right, right. See, if you ain't there and you got that much power to get people, then you should go back to Cleveland. I'm just saying, like, I'm pretty sure he thought of what they told me on my phone. Until you start looking at your fault. That's fine? I feel you. No, that was the way he apologized.
Starting point is 01:10:12 That was the shit, night shit. No, that's all I'm saying. Any of you all want to come? Yeah. people, he can grab the mic while the niggum hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Hold on. Hold on. Saying in. Dancing. No, guy, there's the word and I take full responsibility.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Bro, that's what I'm like, I'm not, I'm not doing that. That's what you have to say when David Sterer used to make you apologize. Hey man, I took responsibility for my actions. I was like, dang.
Starting point is 01:10:41 You was just tripping. That's all. I mean, you ain't got to apologize for it. You got to apologize for it. You were just tripping, that's all. Him standing like him acknowledging what he said. I agree with him 100. Like, yeah, I'm going to address it because, but the apology.
Starting point is 01:10:55 No, I'm just looking out for my teammate. I feel my teammate, hey, he's. He is Hooper. Shit, he's doing this thing here. Yeah, but let me tell you something. Score 70 in their uniform, didn't it? Brian, you know, I was talking back to. Yeah, so, hey.
Starting point is 01:11:06 No, that's fine. Yeah, he scored 70 in their uniform. So, hey, I can tell you, and this is, you can ask. Young fella was hooping, too. You can ask. 20-pils? Yeah, apologies. who's far-fetched.
Starting point is 01:11:17 We played in the playoffs, right? And remember Deshaun, part them overrated? Let's just say this. Them fans did not appreciate that to the point where, you know how,
Starting point is 01:11:32 was it the Ritz? They to the mall? Uh-huh, I got that. We couldn't go in the mall. We were not allowed in that mall. No service. They were no, none,
Starting point is 01:11:45 they was not serving, Nobody. They wasn't telling us nothing. Nothing. You could go to the mall and get some pieces? Right? The fans, the fans they were in the hall waiting for smoke. I can't.
Starting point is 01:12:00 I can't. He had a layover. I don't want to fall all of them. He said, dog, he said, I've never seen just people so mad. Like, I'm walking in the airport and they're like, airport and they're like like who the fuck you think you are he's like old ladies walking up to me he's like man I had to hurry up and get the hell out of there he said not from then I never wanted no layovers in her in Ohio like it was it was really rough for us after that first and foremost where the fuck you're going you got a layover in Ohio is what I want to know why you have a layover where you're coming from day north Cincinnati man what the fuck are you going he lived in Orlando so every day oh yeah oh yeah
Starting point is 01:12:45 That's Atlanta. You're going from Atlanta. You stopping in Atlanta for Orlando to go where? Where are you going with your layover is fucking anywhere in Ohio. Right? Right. I've never been to Cleveland Airport. I mean, who had?
Starting point is 01:13:00 I lived there and I know there ain't no stopping there. I mean, I'm never been. No layover there. Couldn't tell you what the inside of the Cleveland Airport looks like. That's fast. I would tell you, it doesn't look spectacular. I know Chicago's, though. Couldn't tell you what the inside O'Hare looks like.
Starting point is 01:13:17 No? Never been inside O'Hare case? I don't, maybe once. Magnificentiful. I'm going to say, I fly out of Chicago. Maybe once. Two times. Max.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Milwaukee, that's one. Our, um. Big three? No, the, damn. We did. Yep. Okay, that's one. We did twice.
Starting point is 01:13:33 So that was it. Two years. Probably it. Before the draft. Oh, sure. Our pre-draft ship. Yeah, that was work. But I didn't, yeah, I couldn't.
Starting point is 01:13:42 We ain't paying attention. Not at all. Where's that? Where's that? What? Cold tail. Someone else that went down the game. Scary moment for the Lakers earlier in the game involving Luca Donchick as he became the latest victim of the Cavs elevated court.
Starting point is 01:13:59 Let's take a look at what happened here. Lucas shooting a jump shot in the first quarter when he backed off the court. Did it three times. Landed awkwardly, fell to the ground, injuring his left ankle, stayed on the ground for several moments. Luke had this reaction after suffering the injury. His first feet second. Who the F made this floor? God damn it.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Jesus made the floor of his little ladies, he didn't complain about it. Look at the rocker-roo brick. Everything. I've been watching. You know, take no responsibility. He said, about every hot, hot, four,
Starting point is 01:14:47 I've been talking to know it at this. Right, bro. So you ain't going to take no response to this. He complains about everything. Who would have ever made this floor? Too hot, too cold.
Starting point is 01:14:58 He tried to get him up and kicked out the game in the stands too. Can we sit a little good clip one more time just please for a quality of experience? He's first the second. Speak good English. Good English.
Starting point is 01:15:16 We'll return later in the quarter. went on to finish 29.6 to 65 rebounds in the loss. Lucas said his first thought was about Miami. Heigar Drew Smith, who suffered a season ending torn ACL back in 2023 after slipping off the court. He was going to contest a shot. Landed awkwardly as well.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Obviously, a lot of NBA courts are elevated to some degree. A quick drop-off from the Cavs Court. It's been a concern for years. How big of an issue is that Cavs elevated court? Go ahead. Go ahead. I mean, I try to say within the lines of them. It's 94.50.
Starting point is 01:15:53 That motherfucker is 94 by 50. We didn't play it on so many. All of a sudden now, niggins don't want to throw the court. And I had a lot of room right there. There's a lot of room out there. There's only 10 of it. That's a lot of space.
Starting point is 01:16:13 That motherfucker, 94 by 50. We ain't never had a problem in Cleveland. I assume all the courses. I'm looking at it. Yeah. That's normal. Yeah. I'm thinking that the Lakers like that, see.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Every court. You got the little drop ball. They have a hockey arena, right? They have a hockey arena, right? They don't like that. They have that motherfucker in Minnesota. Yeah, that ain't like that motherfucker. Yeah, that's dangerous.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Who? The University of Minnesota court? That drop off. Now you're a die. Like, run a, chase the loose ball over that mother if you want to. Man, that's crazy. Flipfanger. Flipfanger.
Starting point is 01:16:46 Whoa! Shit! Shit. We played out that motherfucker, I had a horrible game. Scared as a motherfucker. Man, not me. Got to walk up the motherfuckin.
Starting point is 01:17:00 Like, what do it? The fucking scores tables across the court. Like, where I go to sub in? They're like, just get up, stand up, and let them know you're about to go in. They can't see you otherwise. Phoenix don't have it, right?
Starting point is 01:17:15 Because it's only the arenas that have hockey jams. They're hockey. Hockey arena? Does they got to put the... Doesn't Phoenix have ice under it? Or a much longer trip? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:17:24 They have hockey. They have hockey team. No, they had one back then. When? They didn't. Did they? Yeah. Who?
Starting point is 01:17:31 Phoenix? They don't play there. They use the win. They don't play there anymore? What yours was the high? You remember, there was the coldest arena. You remember, that used to be the coldest arena. The fuck?
Starting point is 01:17:42 They moved to, one. The one. The one. The one? Not well-versed in the hockey. Twenty-and-what? What?
Starting point is 01:17:47 What? What? What? What? but they did have previously Arizona Coyote Phoenix Coyote that played
Starting point is 01:17:52 in Boston? Boston in Boston? Boston for sure. Boston was cold as fuck. Because remember they're not going to turn the heat on. You know how like most arenas are turning heat on but they don't turn a heat on too much because the ice amount if it's a hockey game after
Starting point is 01:18:04 and then it starts coming up makes the course slippery. Right, you're talking about it. So they're Phoenix Coyotes from 96 to 2014 then became the Arizona Coyoteur 2014 to 2014. Damn, didn't know. Boston is ruthless though. There's no air to, and the showers is cold. to say they turn the heat off for the shower too.
Starting point is 01:18:19 If you beat them, shower's cold. They turn, they, they, oh no, Minnesota Timberwood was like that. Really? Sacramento just didn't have heat. Just not willing to pay the heat. That's one of the best aren't the plan though, that Arkel, like, I'm just talking about far as like, are you an Oracle? Yeah, Oracle, yeah, the arena, no, I'm talking about far as like getting out there hooping.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Where? Because of the depth. It's the best, it's one of the best shooting gyms. Who? SAC. Yeah, SAC. Back in the day? Oh, Arco Arena.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Dallas is SAC? Yes. Marco? Yeah, I used to have a lot playing in it. The Mets. Yeah. And because the debt behind the rim is closer, so it's like a high school gym. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:56 But that shit was nasty. That muffled arena was fucking terrible. So, Cal's Corp not that big. Plan? Yeah, not that I know. Yeah, I couldn't have. I couldn't have told you that Orlando, the rims is.
Starting point is 01:19:08 We played a lot. We played. Each one, we play, you, you, you, you played a lot. You played play the playoff games there. You played another. Never. Right?
Starting point is 01:19:17 I played the Easton conference. I never had to go to court. Who the F made this court? Were the old warriors just to play? That arena was good to play. Like, why the three seats? Like, nobody going to talk about those seats. The hop.
Starting point is 01:19:32 The three hops is like you're trying to sell some shit. Karate Kid Hopps. And of course, you're not playing at home. They're going to move the fuck out the way. Yeah. Like they did. You're at home. The home to conquer were able to grab you probably.
Starting point is 01:19:47 They're on the road, they get the fuck out of the way. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Tets a loose ball over if he wants to, you go hit these chairs. What is different, though? What you mean? Because how would he fall out? There was, we didn't, was that table longer for advertising back when we played? No, he was just pairs there.
Starting point is 01:20:06 He was, he was, they sell them. Remember, there was, because they didn't sell those seats when we played, what was there then? Nothing. Nothing. No, but we played it, but I'm just saying what would have been there if it wasn't fan seats? So it went from- Nothing, right? It was just empty.
Starting point is 01:20:28 It was who? That's what it is now, right? No, it's Rocket Arena. Rocket. Rocket it was Quicken Lone's for a while. It was a long time. I was in college. I was saying, opening 94, then renovated.
Starting point is 01:20:40 It was cute. That's what it was off the time. They used to jump in. You know, I'm just saying, like, how does he fall? I don't remember a space between the Luca injury again between that and the table okay you can be fucking ready the karate kid hops oh and that's the leg that's him that's she could have saved his ass too i don't want to say that seat she let the dick fall off of the go my bed i'm fuck my state uh yeah go back uh one more time we don't where's that where's that
Starting point is 01:21:15 lady think about that lady that seat that seat Ladies. That's the trainer, too. That's the trainer. That's the trainer. That's where the trainers used to be, right? Look what her feet is. But look what her feet is.
Starting point is 01:21:32 She moved. So he didn't step on her shit. She moved that shit on. Go back, man. They seats on the floor. They see it on the ground. Yeah, but look what her feet is. Her feet, she knows the drop off.
Starting point is 01:21:45 And you're trying to get that. Her feet on the ground, too. On the way. Her feet, she told. She knows it's a dropout. I've never seen that. And she moves up and fuck out. Yeah, she should be fired.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Hey. She's a fucking trainer. Oh, no, no. Whoa, whoa, whoa. That's the trainer. Whoa, whoa, whoa, relax. Don't be trying to fire our medical staff. That's so, Zee, she what?
Starting point is 01:22:08 Huh? She what? She is the Lakers. And? And that is a Cleveland. You almost lost your guy. Cleveland. You almost lost your guy for the rest of the season.
Starting point is 01:22:16 It should have been a seat right there. Cleaning. She said it should have been a seat. He didn't give us enough seats, because he just went right through that space. No, no, she's the first seat. The trainer sits in the first seat. Yeah, but that's the extra space.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Why she moved her leg? Why she moved her shit, I don't step on my white shoes. Because he's probably a little heavier than she. Yeah, a little heavier than she expected. She knows how much, yeah, she's the trainer, brus. For her not to. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 01:22:43 They're both with a fail. Cool. Push him up. You know he coming that way. You know that you know that you ain't going to put your hands. Put your hands in the man back, try to stop and fall on the floor. My job is the tape ankles. And that's what I'm doing.
Starting point is 01:22:55 He just got injured. It be too much. Take him to the back. That's what I'm here for. Let's go to the bag. Let's get some more work. Let's re-take this motherfucker. Yeah, let me go do some more work.
Starting point is 01:23:09 I got a new, I got a new tape job. I got to go to my job. I got to get a job. My job is not to stop you from doing it. Take it to the back. I just ordered this new supply, new tape. They got a made out there. It's supposed to be a little more giving.
Starting point is 01:23:24 A little horseshoe on there. You said, I got a back. I got a back. Keep going to be right back. George just made this new tape. We want to try it on you. Let me. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving.
Starting point is 01:23:36 Boston Stokes is one of the most surprising teams in the league this season. Thanks to some strong play by former finals MVP, Jalen Brown. So after their win over the Blazers Monday, former Southern Drew Holiday was asked if he was surprised with Boston success this season and had this response. Not that surprised. I mean, I knew that they'd be well. They'd be well.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Knowing the type of determination that this coaching staff and organization has, being with this team for a couple of years now, knowing the type of players that they are and how to prepare, I figured that they would be good. And then obviously knowing Jayman, I feel like it takes a lot of things pressuring.
Starting point is 01:24:16 He doesn't accept a lot, especially when it comes to being bad. So Brown was asked about Holiday's comments on the Celtics season and had this response. I'll take everything personal, a little key. You know, I'm always looking for something, you know. But, yeah, I felt like I've sacrificed over the years in order for us to be a championship caliber team. And I think now I think we're getting to see that a little bit what exactly, you know, I was capable of when I was sacrificing. I think before maybe it wasn't so obvious.
Starting point is 01:24:51 I think now I think being able to be at the helm of things and us being the second seat in the east versus last year. We finished second seat in the east. It's almost been no drop off with four players, five players that are essentially gone. I feel like that. The work from the coaching staff, the work from our leadership has been great. And, you know, I just tried to make myself available every single night. Strong words.
Starting point is 01:25:22 I saw you smiling while Jay Brown was saying that. Celtics currently tied with the Knicks' second best record in the East, 29 and 18. They are third, I think due to tiebreakers. But have the same record. Jaylen Brown playing in 45 of the Celtics' 47 games this season. Average career high 29 points, seven rebounds, five assists. So Mr. Biel's start with you, do you respect Jaylen Brown's mentality this season? Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 01:25:46 I feel like his mentality's always been like that. Now he just got to finish the season. Season off. You know, it's halfway there. You know, they could probably get Jason Tatum back. So we'll just see what happens then. But, you know, he got to finish off the season. You know, he's having a season like Scotty Pippen when Jordan left.
Starting point is 01:26:05 And Scotty Pippen came in, I think, third, an MVP voting or something like that. So he did. He still got a lot more work to do. But I love his confidence and I like where they're at with him being the number one guy. What you like, the confidence of Jalen Brown's the mentality has this season? Obviously, I think the South is coming in the season. We're expected to win somewhere in the 40 to 41 game range. Be a 500 team, lost a lot of key members of their championship squad,
Starting point is 01:26:27 Jason Tanim down with the Achilles. Yeah, I love it. I mean, he's a competitor. I think any good player, you know, when they have an opportunity to do more, wants to show that they can do more. And I think he's just showing that, hey, you know, I've been playing the team role, but, you know, I can also do a little bit more. Yeah, I think he's showing, you know, while some people think, you know, he should probably be the number one option on the team.
Starting point is 01:26:54 You know, he's showing that his finals MVP and stuff, you know, why people can say maybe he's the best player on the team, you know. So he's kind of showing those people who believe that, that, hey, it's legit, you know, and it's hard to argue with the results that he put in. But like he said, he got a lot more work to do, but, like, I like what he's showing. I like what he's showing. You respect Jalen Brown's mentality this season, taking over. That's the number one option. Obviously, we had discussions previously hearing Gills Reader presented about Underdog Woo-Woo. About who was the number one option on the Celtic squad?
Starting point is 01:27:26 No, yeah, I mean, after the first end of December, that was in December, I mean, December, just those 10 games that he played answered everything that I had to say about him. Right. And, you know, sometimes you get put in a situation to be the number one option. And sometimes your mouth is bigger than that responsibility. But it wasn't for him. Right. He's, you know, put that team. Where did they have him?
Starting point is 01:27:56 40 and what? 40 and what? What was this supposed to be ready? 41? 40 to 41 weeks, I think it was. So the fact that he, he, with four players leaving, he has them in a position to fight for number one in the east definitely number two to number three in the east and he's he's challenged the system of what sacrifice really means that that that is really the the real
Starting point is 01:28:27 narrative is number two options have to sacrifice so much that you don't know how good they are until they're put in a in a situation so he got put in a situation Now he's like, look, this is what I can do. So me going back, if I do go back, I'm going back because this is where I fit for us to win. So y'all told us to win. This is how we put our team together to win. But if you want me to come out here and show you I'm Superman,
Starting point is 01:29:01 I can show you I'm Superman. So what I don't like is this, out of everybody who crushed the media, you put them at 41 and 41 or 40 and 42. They're not. His production is MVP production. Why aren't you yelling it out loud? He's overexceeding where y'all had him.
Starting point is 01:29:24 You had them here. They're here. So why aren't you giving him the credit for it? It was no different than, you know, Kobe when that team was supposed to be dead last in the West and they made the playoffs. Why aren't you giving the credit to the person for your wrong prediction? and I don't like the only thing that was loud
Starting point is 01:29:45 this year was they wanted to talk about the makeup the Beijing the Beijing the Beijing was the biggest thing you want to say about his game not that he's averaging 29 6 and 6 and like that
Starting point is 01:29:58 that's the biggest thing of his game I mean he was like you're not you're not hearing on a lot of but that's crazy you have to be able to say you was wrong yep but you know he challenged he challenged the system that's why they ain't given You got to be able to say you was wrong.
Starting point is 01:30:11 Have they ever? No. So shit, they're not going to start now. I know what you're saying, though. They're not going to start. If you say he couldn't do it and he does it, you got to say, yeah, my bad. I'm going to lock with you now. The apology ain't never loud as the accusation, bro.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Like, it ain't. I got my Jalen Brown. The booze won't always be louder than that year. They lose the credit. My name is my Jalen. I'm team pay. Yeah, I got the California one. Number zero.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Kyle Berkeley. Just something about the Boston Green. Former Pack 12. Yeah, so he's not in the MVP conversation, which we think he should. When the other guy that was there that's played out of his mind, he was never in the MVP conversation either. I think that's a bigger conversation. Why aren't they? Why aren't they?
Starting point is 01:30:59 Whatever they're doing, doing their... Brown currently six... But that's not in the conversation. Okay, you would know this better. That's not the conversation. Is Boston, like, the Duke of the NBA? Yes. Like, you just, like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:31:17 Just because of success, man. Because of history and winning, I guess. But, yeah, I think so. Like, you just don't like, like, whatever it is, but like, whatever it is, it just irritates. Yeah, whatever. I think that's what it is. Like, grimy.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Like, you never feel that griminess when you go in that building. It's just like, it's just different. It's like, you don't belong here. That's a great, that's a great point, Gil. It's just never thought about it. Absolutely. Rimy. Yeah, but no, for it, yeah,
Starting point is 01:31:44 no, Judge Brown definitely is deserving to be hired in that conversation than six from what he's doing for this team with their guy being out. But I'm just interested, like, so he's, you know, you said the number two guys
Starting point is 01:32:05 sacrifices, but I'm like, how in this NBA when there's two main guys? Like, it's, what is he sacrificing? Because normally does everybody else get in where you fit in. Them two go do them, and everybody else get in where they fit in. So what has been the sacrifice? The sacrifice is more of, if he's taking 20 shots, I'm going to take 16.
Starting point is 01:32:40 I'm going to give up some to give the number three a little bit more, right? You know what I mean? It's like a pecking order. You know how the game is versus you average 29. I average 29 and we both shine. Like somebody is taking the back seat to the play calling. For sure. You're going to get 20 calls.
Starting point is 01:32:57 I'm going to get about 15. I got to figure another way. You know, so there is a back seat to it. It's just a natural progression. Just like Jordan, then Scotty Pippen. Like, oh shit, we know you can do this by yourself, Scottie. He's like, yeah, you know what I mean? I got MJ.
Starting point is 01:33:10 So I'm just going to, I'm going to do everything MJ don't do. You know what I mean? It's one of all. I'm going to just do everything he don't do to complete this team out. And that's usually what happens. And sometimes because we see it for so long, we don't know how good number two is. Oh, we know because it don't go without the number one,
Starting point is 01:33:29 can't do it without number two. They can't do it without each other. So that's my thing. Who is we? I'm not, I'm speaking of the number one and number two guy. We didn't know, like Westbrook. We didn't know Westbrook had triple double. I'm talking about the number one guy and number two guy.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Just so happy we're talking about Jalen Brown. and we all knew how good Jalen Brown was. It wasn't a secret how good Jalen Brown was. We knew he did. Before this year, we knew how good Jalen Brown was. He knew he was this good, though. Yes. No, I did.
Starting point is 01:33:56 I did. I knew before this year because these things ain't just come out the air of people question who team it was. It just didn't start now. He had to show us something. It just didn't start last year. Do you remember who started that conversation? Remember who started that conversation?
Starting point is 01:34:15 whose team it was. It's been a thing. Did that conversation start in Jill's arena? I just asked a simple question. Do you remember who questioned whose team it was? Based on the talent level and the potential that this guy could do what he's doing right now. And somebody said, hey, listen, if this dude don't get his shit together, we can do this with just him. We can do this with just him.
Starting point is 01:34:41 He's good enough. But with both of them? Yeah, we can win some shit. some shit. We can both for them on the same accord. Yeah, but this dude is good enough. So, for sure. So, he plays both sides. He do his thing. So let's fast forward when Jason Tatum does come back, right? Does he continue now, is it the same thing?
Starting point is 01:35:06 So that's my, is it the same? So now you do you defer them three, four more shots still? Now we're talking about success. Yes. Right? And it always presents itself, right? When Michael Jordan came back Scotty Pippenker said
Starting point is 01:35:23 Hold on, bro, I was third in MVP for Give me one more year Or We know we win in championship if you're number one So I'm not even going to challenge your boss man We know that, right? Yes, so that's my thing. Right?
Starting point is 01:35:36 So Westbrook and Katie When Katie left, Westbrook said Oh, this is what the number one tastes like, I don't know if I can give it back That's where that bump starts. Yes. Right?
Starting point is 01:35:48 So there's been situation. So this is not a Tatum issue. This is a brown issue. When Tatum comes back. That's what I'm asking. Is he going to be like, hey, hey, boss, man, hey. Yeah. Hey, I had fun like a motherfucker, boy.
Starting point is 01:36:02 Y'all see what I did? Yeah. All right, we're trying to win championships again. Here go to Keys. Call me where you need me. I'm going to be here doing what I do best. It's on him because if he challenges it, then you're going to have to pick.
Starting point is 01:36:16 Or they walk into the car and both of them going to the drive. Yes. Usually, usually, they both go to the driver's seat and then that's where the falloff comes in. Yeah. I hope it doesn't happen for them because they have built something there together, doing it together. It's unfortunate that Jason Tatum injury happened now and now. It will be a conversation. You know what I think.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Watching Jalen this year, I think this year for him is kind of all he really needed. y'all didn't think i can do it ha i proved it right i don't need to prove my game to y'all no more y'all challenged it y'all asked if i can do it y'all counted us out we are here i did it now tatum is back we're going to go back and start whooping ass together again
Starting point is 01:37:14 am i going to let you break us up got's this ain't about whose team it is who cares it's it's it's ours is boston i'm going to go win That looks like the mind of him. I don't think he's going to fall into, yeah, I like this. Hey, this is my team, right? He don't come off like that. Because he wants to win.
Starting point is 01:37:31 I think winning for Jalen Brown is the most important thing and how he approaches the game. So I definitely understand what you're saying. So I'll apologize to Jalen because I said they were cooked this year. They were cooked completely with all the trades. and him being down men that could help him get to where he needed to go. But he was able to prove me wrong and take those guys that were seen as underachievers, underdeveloped guys that could be role players for guys that he could take to the next level,
Starting point is 01:38:08 got him at three. He got him playing well. Joe got him playing well. His leadership is showing at a maximum level now. He was able to pick up his production. He's working with Jamon. Lavelle, aka Dash Lettics, got him in peak form, doing a lot of the things that has been talked about of the last two or three years.
Starting point is 01:38:30 And I know he probably felt some type of way about my comments, which were motivational at the least to see if, you know, he could take it to the next level. And he has. And he's then definitely proven exactly what I thought he could prove when I was a Boston Celtics fan and we won the chip. And he was the driving force today. that and challenging Jason Tave him to step it up or this guy's going to take it over. He's going to take it over.
Starting point is 01:38:55 And so now when he comes back, I don't think it's going to be no dangling of the keys or handing over the keys. It's always been this type of leadership in place. I think Jalen Brown has always known where he stands, where it comes to Jason and how good he is. And the type of leeway you've got to have and give a player like him for him to be able to be as good as he is. You got to be able to be like, look, bro, just like D. Way and LeBron down in Miami. me the way he had to let LeBron be LeBron in order for that to really flourish. So Jalen Brown's like, look, I got to let J.T. Be JT.
Starting point is 01:39:28 But when he can't do what he supposed to do, I'm going to pick up the pieces. I'm going to be that nigger that's going to be like, no, I got it. I got it from here. I'm ready. So when that's the case and we can see it now, like I said, when J.T. sitting there seeing him do this stuff, he's like, man, where am I? Where do I fit in if we three, if we three right now with just. him we can definitely run it back when I come back for sure I just need to find a piece
Starting point is 01:39:57 where I'm not disrupting what he's doing he's got a flow going he's got his own shit going if I don't disrupt what he doing got a chance I really don't care I don't care if Boston win or not I just want to Jaylon Brown to do good I just be honest I don't want to see Boston Celtics win at all I just like to see Jaylon Brown yeah I don't want to see him win it all yeah I don't know I don't want to be living in of watching Boston win. So personally as a L.A. fan, but, you know. I think next year when the East get back healthy,
Starting point is 01:40:30 you're going to need J.T. back on the team, though. Like this year, the East is wide open because every injuries to a lot of different stars, a lot of different teams. Next year, the East is probably going to be a lot better after Tray Shakeout and people get back healthy. So I think the both of them are going to need each other when the competition level will get stiffer, you know,
Starting point is 01:40:46 in the Eastern Conference again. And winning without one another. Yeah. With the same previous driver seat and situation? Doesn't matter. I mean, it's going to work yourself out. It's going to work yourself out. Like, they can't do it without one or nothing.
Starting point is 01:40:59 You ain't never seen one of them cars with two drivers? The student drivers, yeah. We both driving it. Okay. It's like Shaq and Kobe. You've got to figure out which one you want to roll with. Nah, it's not. No, it's not.
Starting point is 01:41:10 We don't want that. We don't want that situation. No. It's not. And it's not that situation. It's going to get that situation. It's not. No.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Because the number two actually became the finals MVP. So the fuck I'm going to sit here and come behind him. You know what we didn't win. four and five championships in a row? Because of that. Because of that. That's fine. No, that's not fine.
Starting point is 01:41:29 That's what we don't want. We don't want them to come to that room in the middle of a three, Pete, to then try to change roles and fight over the roll. Because that's why championship four and five didn't happen. When we were favorite to win four and five. We're not changing rows. What I'm saying is, we just know what it is. We're beefing over the road.
Starting point is 01:41:49 We're not, we're not beefing over a row. We're not like your energy, dog. Except the road. You're trying to start to be. I'm not trying to start anything. What I'm saying is, I'm not trying to. It ain't yet. We don't want.
Starting point is 01:41:58 Hey, Brandon, just say this. What happened when we got rid of the big fella? We won two more? Yeah, they did. They won't go. Yeah, they did. Yeah, they did. Jaylon Brown can prove that he can win it on his own.
Starting point is 01:42:09 If he need to, he will. If he don't have to, he won't have to. He hasn't proved yet. We're talking about it. If it's the Kobe Shack dynamic. True, we supposed to have one that we were guaranteed to win those two years. We won three and a year. the road. We was guaranteed to win the next one and there was turmoil. And then we reloaded
Starting point is 01:42:28 to win again that net and we lost the game. It was just my solo. It was just my show now. We just wanted to drive. Right, right. No, no, I get it. I get it, but somebody got to be number one. Because that would have been right there. There's always got to be somebody. That would have been seven, that would have been seven championships for Kobe. But somebody got to be number one. Because we would have won those two in this, the trade would have happened. And they got to boom. You got. You got to be talking about Kobe. Still number two. Didn't win the finals MVP. That's why he's not. This is why Tracy is better than him.
Starting point is 01:42:54 This is why it would have been all of conversations. I don't want to be number one. You got to be number one. You got to be the last guy at the end of it doing that. I don't know what you're on. I don't know what you're on. You said number two don't get no respect. You said number two.
Starting point is 01:43:11 Don't get no respect on his couch. We said that. So Kobe can get seven and he'll be right under sack. For sure. You all be right here saying you were driving the bus. You ain't driving the bus. Why do you want them to be? Ain't nobody's saying it is the fucking facts.
Starting point is 01:43:24 Like, why do you want them to be so much? We like the shit, what they're like the motherfuckers didn't play the games and we watched the games and we're part of. So we're watching the same thing. No, I'm part of. Yeah, right now. Right now.
Starting point is 01:43:34 You guys are talking about the number two that's coming back. Yeah, the other guys out. So is Taylor's number two? Don't do it. No. No. He's going to make you hate somebody who was five time.
Starting point is 01:43:44 I'm not going to hate nobody. I'd say anything about hate. I just said what it was. He said a statue in Memphis. First time. That I mean, Taylon Brown got to get a statue. So Mr. B, let's move on to that
Starting point is 01:43:55 little piece of commentary. Jason Tatum's status for the season remains uncertain with his certain that he's compiled an impressive resume during his time in Boston. Six all-stars, five all-MBAs, including four first-team selections, and an NBA championship in 2024. Obviously, he was not the finals MVP. That was Jaylen Brown.
Starting point is 01:44:11 But during an interview with the pivot, Tatum talked about the pressure that comes with playing for a storied franchise like the Boston Celtics. You know, a lot of times, like former players come back and whether it be Rondo, KG, Paul or Cedric Maxwell who works for the team where, you know,
Starting point is 01:44:27 they talk about the 86 Celtics, like, the thing they all have in common is they won. They won or multiple championships. So as, you know, you striving to be a great player, it's like, you know, if I, the career I have right now, if I had it with
Starting point is 01:44:42 the Grizzlies, like, I would have a statue outside the arena. Right. But now I'm chasing people like, Larry Berger where the standard is so much higher and it's like you don't want to be the great player of the Celtics that
Starting point is 01:44:57 oh you're the one guy that didn't win like Bill Russell John Avalichack Kevin McKell they all won a championship so you know thoughts on Tadam saying he already have a statue if he played with the group can I finish the question here all right you know I live for these moments
Starting point is 01:45:16 I practice in the mirror every day before I come here sometimes during the weekend just do practice show so facts I'll let you do it? No, you already did it. No, I let you finish. No, just from moving forward. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:32 We already passed it. What he's speaking is, it's a fact. If you take his resume at 27 years old, he has more all-stars appearances than every grizzly player that played there. He has more all-NBAs than every grizzly player that ever played there, right? He has a championship. He has four first team all NBAs, right? A gold medal is a gold medal. He's an Olympian.
Starting point is 01:46:05 So you're saying you take my resume, and if I did that here, I'm the greatest Grizzlies player ever. Yes, that is a fact with his resume, right? That goes for a lot of cities in players if you take the resume. But if you are a Boston Celtic or if you are a Laker, you're not. playing against your opponents, you're playing against the rafters. That's what you're, they're challenging you. When we're challenging you, we're challenging you with Kobe. Who is the best Laker of all time, right?
Starting point is 01:46:39 Those are those are those conversations. Is LeBron Jersey going to get retired up there? Is he going to have a statue in Los Angeles, right? These are the conversations that are happening in certain cities because of the success of winning. So, yeah, he is under a microscope of just being a Boston Celtics in that jersey. But he can remove him and put him somewhere else, like he mentioned, Memphis. He is the best player that I never walked through Memphis with his resume at 27 years old.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Shit, at 26, he didn't even play this year. So I don't see nothing wrong or anything he said that's not a true statement. I mean, but would you have the career if he was in Memphis? No, he just, he said his resume. He said his resume. No, no, he would not. No, he would not have. Would you have that resume?
Starting point is 01:47:35 The president is not the same in Boston. That's why it's like that. Wait, hold on. It's not the question, Paul. I'm not, I just ask the question. No, it would not have. I'm asking a question.
Starting point is 01:47:44 We put up a bunch of empty numbers like we always say, everybody else. You take, you take, you take the honest resume, and you put him in Los Angeles. Does he have a statue? No. Okay. No.
Starting point is 01:47:55 If you take his, so, but you put it in Bill Waukey, it's a choice. trophy. It's a stature is the biggest shit that they can ever build. So stop pretending that his resume in Memphis, he has more he do, but
Starting point is 01:48:09 all NBAs than every person who put on a Grizzly's uniform. That's true. That's true. By 26. That means J.B. Every All-Star, he has more by himself than every player
Starting point is 01:48:24 that played in that uniform. We not deny that. So when he's saying, if he He says he's saying my resume I have now. If I play there, I will have a statue. We're not saying would you have a statue. I mean, would you have this resume if you was there? That's not the court.
Starting point is 01:48:41 That's not the... Yeah, but I don't even, I don't even, at this age, when you're in the problem your career, why is that even the topic? Like, statue. Because we're trying to change the narrative of what it's looking like now. So let me make it look like, if I went to Memphis, we wouldn't be talking about any of this. It's just the pressure of planning in Boston is the pressure of planning in Boston.
Starting point is 01:48:58 That's why your career. And that's why everything is what it is because of that up there. You're going to Boston. You're not doing that. Y'all going to do whatever y'all want in Boston. There's no pressure. I mean, there's no pressure in Memphis. All you got to do is go out there and get numbers.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Now, a statue, God damn. That means Vince Carter should get a statue in Toronto. Everybody. Everybody who gets put up numbers can go out of Memphis. We're just bringing up statues. Like, God. You said if you put Vince Carter's resume in. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Vince Carter resume in Toronto alone. He should have a statue in Toronto. He did bring bottle, Because first of all, if Vince Carter never does the dunk contest, I don't know shit about Toronto. I've never heard about the Raptors anything until that. For what he's done, like we just talked about DeRose the other day, what he meant to the city. Vince Carter is the same thing to me up in Toronto. Without Air Canada, all that stuff he was doing, man, we would not know nothing about Toronto.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Let's just stick to the topic. So I'm just saying this is the top. We're talking about everybody wants a statue. Everybody wants to be a statue. Everybody that's top 15 in the NBA with a resume. if they go to Memphis, they should have a statue. Yes.
Starting point is 01:50:00 So is that a lie? Oh, I mean, that's... I'm just saying, I don't like that. Okay, that's all you said. What's the point of it? Yeah, I'm about to say, I don't know. What's the point of you saying that when there's 14 other guys that can say the same thing about their careers?
Starting point is 01:50:15 They can literally say, man, man, if I went to Memphis too, I would have a statue. Joel and B., I would have a statue. Joker, I would have a statue. What's the point of saying it? Because the talking of, who's number one over there.
Starting point is 01:50:27 Okay, so let me go over here and make it. But playing for a franchise like the Celtics, like the Lexington. It is more pressure playing in Boston. That's the fact. We can't sit down in a fair. We can't sit down in a family. We have five first teams in Boston is big. It is.
Starting point is 01:50:40 It's like, so. I'm asking why it's not big. Having five in Memphis, it's not big. Having five in Boston is big because of the pressure, like I said. The president. But having that in Memphis is not. He has that. Nobody's don't even know that he did that in Memphis.
Starting point is 01:50:54 What are he saying in Memphis. Miffians. Okay, him and Jalen Brown are thinking the same. They're saying this, our resume is not valued like everybody else's. Our resume because of the 100 people that's in these raptors, you don't give us our flowers like everybody else, right? So when you think about Jalen Brown now, I'm averaging 29 this and this, But because I play for Boston, you don't give me that.
Starting point is 01:51:28 Because you think of all Boston players, if I played in Memphis with my 29, 6, and 5, I'll be an MVP Kennedy. That's how Jaylen. You won't it? In the West? That's how they're thinking over there. I get what they're thinking. In the West with the Clippers, Golden State, and Houston back. You think they win a championship with them?
Starting point is 01:51:47 Because that's what he said. If you take my resume and my team to Memphis. No, he's not saying that. You just add these stuff. We're talking about flowers, right? He's just how. He don't like, he wants roses. We're giving him sunflowers.
Starting point is 01:52:01 That's the difference. He wants roses, we're giving him sunflow. I'm not arguing with you. I just want to know why did he make him say that because I've never heard players this young talk about statues right now. Like, why you're not? That's part of his resume. He's talking about the conversation is about all the success you guys are having. You are having.
Starting point is 01:52:22 you don't get the recognition that you deserve. So the conversation... He's got the award. He's getting the awards. He's getting the awards. He's getting an award. What kind of recognition do you fucking need? Can I finish my conversation?
Starting point is 01:52:36 Whatever your hate is for him, didn't do that action. The conversation is this. So he's saying, we, USA, we go to USA basketball. So this is part of the conversation. We go to USA basketball. USA basketball. For sure?
Starting point is 01:52:51 I am. First team all NBA, meaning there's four foreigners and then me as the only American on the first team. When we go to USA basketball, I know one person that should be starting, the number one three man in the NBA. So when I go to there to represent, I get benched. That's the conversation. He's saying that everything he's doing, where's the love? He said because I'm judged by them up there, not my peers. Same thing Jalen Brown is thinking, hey, where's my MVP talk?
Starting point is 01:53:31 How is people in small cities getting better MVP talk? I'm averaging the same numbers. My team is this. Where's my MVP talk? But if I'm in a small city, I'm going to get that MVP talk because they don't have no history there. So it's louder there when I'm being judged here. I'm being judged by this Not my number
Starting point is 01:53:53 But that was a conversation I get that And all that's true But the statue talk Though it seemed like he was reaching for something Because Wouldn't have you heard of a guy In the prime of his career
Starting point is 01:54:02 Be worrying about If I'm somewhere else I'm gonna get a statue right now Like I mean why what is that It was talking about Did we hear the question Yeah I did
Starting point is 01:54:12 I wasn't heard of Yeah I just a conversation It's like being a pretty girl Let's it He's he It's a pretty girl in Los Angeles, right? There's a thousand of them.
Starting point is 01:54:24 There's a thousand of them. What if I was a pretty girl in Ohio? Whoa. You're going to stick out. I'm going to stick out. And that's what he's saying. You can't tell how beautiful I am because I'm sitting in Los Angeles, New York. We don't care.
Starting point is 01:54:38 You just don't get it. I get it. That's all the beautiful. You're going to do the same job as the ugly boys and bitch. You're going to do the same fucking job. I got out. I mean, it wasn't. Get the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:54:49 That's all it matter. It don't matter if you're bad or not. It's just ass for business, goddamn. That's what I said. The fact that... He's not at a bad time, though. Jalen Brown is doing the same thing. Jalen Brown is having to happen.
Starting point is 01:55:01 The funny part is everybody's trying to break these two up. They're both mentally thinking the same. We're putting the work in. I'm not going to break them off. We're putting it work in and these motherfuckers are trying to break us up. We're putting the work in and no one is giving us our flowers. And that's why I said, out of, everything Jalen Brown has done this year to prove everybody's wrong.
Starting point is 01:55:24 The only real media giving him is the hair marks. Not the 50s and the 50s, not that, that's crazy. Gary, he's that's talking about it. What kind of fire? What are you talking about? He's talking about it. He's talking massive. Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 01:55:37 He's doing his thing. So do you think the 29, his performance, you think he's getting the right amount of love? I don't think so. Do you think it's? No. Okay. And when we was giving them love, it wasn't enough.
Starting point is 01:55:51 When we was given the underdog love, wasn't enough. Like, they should be keep on. Right? The square media. Same when they talk about Joker and SGA and Ann and Wimby, they should be talking to him like that. No, he's only pushing himself. Yeah, thing, okay, see.
Starting point is 01:56:04 I mean, he's on Twitter telling Eric the world I'm the top player. He has to do it. Yeah. So, yeah, okay. He's not getting it from the media. That's because he's when he gets the machine, though. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:15 That's why. You want to get the machine. Don't know play, speak for itself. No, no, for sure. But if you do go against the machine, like you said, you are going to get penalized. We saw it with Tyree. You saw it with a lot of people. You're playing and you hooping.
Starting point is 01:56:26 Same with USAB. Did Jay Brown deserve the MVP? The finals MVP? Yeah, I do. I think so. Yeah. He did his play show that? I mean, he played both of us.
Starting point is 01:56:38 Yeah. His play showing right now. He's, he's an MVP candidate this year? I think he's top five. Oh, he's in six. Six? Okay. He's top ten.
Starting point is 01:56:47 It's not in the key in a movie. It's not a conversation. is not in the conversation. Not in the conversation. Should he be in a conversation? Should he yes? Okay, yes. Should he yes?
Starting point is 01:56:55 Should he yes? But being number six and that right now is not being in the conference. So I'll read you the list. You tell me who you bump out. SGA, Joker, Wimby, Tyrese Max, your top five in the latest MVP ladder.
Starting point is 01:57:08 What is Wemby in? He's in the college. He said who? Wembe Head, Max. Why isn't Cade Cunningham number three? Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Wait, K not in it?
Starting point is 01:57:18 Why is not number three? Why is not number three? I have no idea. I have no idea why he's not top three. SGA, Yolkich. That's given. Luca. Given.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Wimby. No. Tyreys Maxie. No. Then six through 10 is Jalen Brown, Kade Cunningham. Y'all, y'all, you're all funny. It should be Cade and Jalen in the top five. Yes, for sure.
Starting point is 01:57:40 That's for sure. Like, Wimby, like, listen, we see what Wimby is. It's going to be great. We get it. But not right now. You're not top five. Not right. conversation right now not top five not right now wimby's not top five 11 no no no no
Starting point is 01:57:55 no it's not loud enough another all-star all-n-n-a player but you not the other two don't have none of that it has nothing to do with me playing bro no i know i know they're not gonna let beside me yeah but they not doing what i'm not in the conversation yeah he's not one minute's restriction he's still not he's not playing better than kane and brown he's not playing better than either one of them guys doing i disagree not from start Wait, you disagree? You're playing better than Jalen Brown? Wemby?
Starting point is 01:58:22 Yes. Yes. He's playing better than Kaye Cuttingham? On business restriction? I know. I didn't add you whether there was a minute of restriction or not. I say yes. I say yes.
Starting point is 01:58:30 I say yes. Yes. We're playing better. Jalen Brown. Yes. No way. And Kaye Cuttingham. Yes.
Starting point is 01:58:39 We just going to disagree. No way. You go to Kaye Cutterham number one of these. Ain't no way. I just say yes. Okay. I didn't, I didn't see him. I didn't see him pop another piece.
Starting point is 01:58:48 I can see it still poppy. I thought it's not right now. Not right now. He was earlier, but not like that. Who? So why is Joe? Why is Joker still in the year? But not now, not right, huh?
Starting point is 01:59:02 He said, why is who? Joker's still in the car. Because he after the triple double. He's hurt. He's having the triple double. The last time we saw him, that motherfucker said it. Say it again? He's averaging the triple double.
Starting point is 01:59:13 When is the last time he played? He's still averaged, last time he played. He had a triple double. And today he's still having the triple double. carrying that on, right? That's still counts, that's what we know. It counts, right? So the minimum's restriction don't count, though.
Starting point is 01:59:25 What are you talking about? So Wembe being on minute restriction, don't count. Neither does Joker being his numbers are still what they are. His joke, women's numbers not better than his? On minutes restriction. It's still not better than here. I don't get fucking if you played 48 minutes. Does his team success matter?
Starting point is 01:59:42 Don't give a fuck. The man still has the triple. Does his team success matter? He's not playing better than K. I'm asking. I'm not contradicting. It doesn't matter. But it's number two.
Starting point is 01:59:54 No, no, no, I'm saying, yes. But it's going to contradict you what you're trying to say. I'm not trying to make a point. I just ask the question. I just say it's going to contradict. I hear what you're saying, but I'm not trying to say anything. I just ask the question. If you're talking about minute restrictions and then you say their record,
Starting point is 02:00:10 if he's on minute restriction and their record's good, that means they're a good team without them. And where would they be? if he wasn't on written minutes restriction. We don't know. We do know. We know. They'll be number one.
Starting point is 02:00:22 Okay. We do. We do. We do. We don't. They're number two. We don't. They're number two in the West.
Starting point is 02:00:30 They're number one. They're five games back. They're number two in the West. On minutes restrictions. Still with 24 and 12. They still wouldn't be number one. We're talking about. Still wouldn't be number one.
Starting point is 02:00:40 They still be five game five. Y'all two and 11. Y'all think it's funny. You know, funny. Five games. Funny. Funny. Funny.
Starting point is 02:00:46 Funny. So they're 22 and 11 with him. Without Wimby, they are 10 and 4. You're funny. 10 and 4 without him. You're funny. So they might actually be. Detroit is a lot of routine without K.
Starting point is 02:00:59 You're funny. Detroit's a lot of routine without K. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, hell yeah. So he needs to be in the MVP. And I don't know what ballpark is. We take Kade out. Detroit is playing for the lottery.
Starting point is 02:01:10 We know what they look like. They might get the number one pick. We know what that looks like. Same thing with Brown. You take Brown out right now. If Jaylin don't play why, what's my call it, I heard Boston for the lottery too. Pists is five and one without Kay Cunningham this is.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Okay. Come again? Pissons are five and one without a... Say that again? Pisses are five and one without Kay Cunningham this is. Five and five, like five, like five wins? They have won five games and lost one time in six games. You don't have to whisper that shit.
Starting point is 02:01:37 I got to hear, I got to hear it out loud! So he can deflate his chest and teeth. I'm trying out to get the dog river. Fuck! Five and one without him. Savings. And the first way, how many? 10 and four.
Starting point is 02:01:49 In the show. They beat the bulls, the sixers, the pacers. They beat the bulls twice. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Put the smoke. They beat who? The bulls. They beat the bulls twice.
Starting point is 02:02:00 Twice. Sixers, Pacers, clippers, and pelican. Come on, man. You know, come on. Don't just say. Don't just say. Hold on. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 02:02:10 I'm not going to lie. If it wasn't hurt, they picked those games for K to sit out. Come on now, come on. I'm about to have some context, man. Oh, did they explain? Make it make sense for your argument, dad. Y'all make it make it make sense for your argument. The argument is that Winby is not an MVP company.
Starting point is 02:02:25 But he is. But he is. He's not playing bad. Jaylen Brown. He's not. But he is. Not playing bed. No, no, technically he is.
Starting point is 02:02:35 What do you mean? But technically. He is, but he's not playing. What do you mean? But technically. I mean, if the shit come out again, the ladders, I bet it is shit. It will come out again tomorrow updates every week. But technically.
Starting point is 02:02:44 But I can guarantee you this. If you let the public vote. If you let the public vote. Should Cade be in the top five? We're going to say yes. The public is going to say yes because we can see what he has done. So the fact that he is seven
Starting point is 02:03:07 is real disrespectful to everything he's done done. With a team that we all did not have no more. No other team. No other team. Nobody had to leave in the top and not be top five MVP. But when did that ever happen? Nobody would have picked the Detroit Piss to be number one to come out. At fucking January 30th.
Starting point is 02:03:26 Nobody would have picked them number one after the first. This is like his D. Rosier. Yes, this is exactly what this is like. Like, you know what I'm saying? But nobody's like. Yeah, you're right. This is that. This is exactly that.
Starting point is 02:03:37 I don't understand that. I don't understand it. This is Mac. I mean, even what Maxxie is doing, we get, we get, there's no distance. like the maxi but no right in this but these this they're winning they're in the same conference yeah they're in the east with you kate is and you got you got other hall of you got hall of famous on your team that just just being there changes the game for you there's nobody here with him that's going to be that type of caliber of talent and you're you're number one that's different
Starting point is 02:04:10 we just talked about mb five games that's part of helping them get here he don't have that coming off the bench or nothing. Yeah, when I was number one, was Jake, was Jake hit top five in MVP voting? Yeah, you should have won it. Kay Cunningham's numbers are,
Starting point is 02:04:25 25, nine assists, five boards. Like, that's how I look at it. What? 25 points, nine, ten, 10 assists. Five boards.
Starting point is 02:04:36 Okay. On the number one team. On a number one team. On a number one team. With no number two player. So, Wimby's numbers are 25, 11 forces shooting 50%. And who's the number one option? They're number two in the West.
Starting point is 02:04:51 Number two versus number one. Mm-hmm. So what are you saying? Wimby's not. With lower expectations. So what are you? Wimby's not moving. So is one better than two? How about Maxie? Is that a team record you're talking about?
Starting point is 02:05:02 How about that? Is that team record you're talking about? You brought it up. You said they too. Did I say that team record count? So does team record count? I don't. I don't, I don't. Did you say no or yes?
Starting point is 02:05:11 I don't think so. So why would you bring it up? You brought it up. You just said 12 wins. So I'm going off what you said. No, I just brought up the stats. You said 12, you said they're second in the way. With the stats, similar stats, similar stats, right?
Starting point is 02:05:25 Similar stats, right? I don't like K. I don't like K. Not being. But he don't have better stats than Wendy. He don't have better stats than Wemby. They're number one in the east. You know not to just go by stats.
Starting point is 02:05:34 They're number one in East. You know what would you like to go by? Both. You want to go by both sides of the floor? No, go by, what's the expectation of Detroit? Do you want to go by, both sides of the way. I want to go about what is Detroit?
Starting point is 02:05:46 Where did you have Detroit coming to this year? We're talking about teams success right now. No, we're talking about the players who are MVP's or we're talking about the teams that are one of the talking about. Okay, hold on. So hold on. Whoa, whoa, whoa, cool. Yeah. So did you think.
Starting point is 02:05:59 So we're not coming into the season. You don't want to answer the question? Coming to the season. Would you have predicted that Kay would have this kind of a season? No. Nobody did it. No. No.
Starting point is 02:06:07 No. Coming into the season. Would you have predicted that win would have this kind of a season. Yes. Thank you. Everybody. Coming to the season. Where to the season?
Starting point is 02:06:15 I was the only one that said if Wimby would have this type of Let me ask you this. So cool. So that's what that question is yes? Who is your team this year? So you're in agreement. You're in agreement. Who is your team in this?
Starting point is 02:06:28 Let me ask you when D. No, no. I want to ask you. Who is your team this year? You know who my team is? Who is that? Spurs? You know who my team is?
Starting point is 02:06:37 So he asked the rhetorical questions. So basically, we know one thing. He's going to pick who he thinks. to pick who he think is the number one team. So pick Boston one championship. Then he picked Knicks last year, right? Then he picked preseason who? Spurs.
Starting point is 02:06:53 So what the Spurs is doing, he already knew. Where did he have Detroit? Bottom Feeding team. They're number one. And you're not going to give me love to the guy who has a man? I did not have Detroit bottom feeding team. Did you have him first? No, I didn't have him.
Starting point is 02:07:09 I didn't pick him at nothing. Nothing. Because they were what, number two last year? Number two and number three last year? They were up and coming number two number three. And I said that Davey, I think they were six. They finished. They played three, no, they played, no, they were six and they played three. Regardless, they had them.
Starting point is 02:07:28 They had them going. So, so, Shad. I didn't have the box. So when Derek Rose won MVP the year he won MVP, did you think he should have won MVP? I wasn't. No, no, no. He was a LeBron fan then. I was thinking about some other shit then.
Starting point is 02:07:43 I was overseas. No, no, he was a LeBron fan. I wasn't thinking about Dary Rose. I'm just, because a lot of you use it now, it won't match up if that's the case. Yeah, because I see you had to search into your little Rolodex. You had to go back to Derek Rose. I don't know why, but I don't know what that means. He was a LeBron James fan.
Starting point is 02:07:58 He was then, so he was Team LeBron. So it was LeBron's to him. He didn't give shit. He was mad. I mean, I believe Brian should have won it that year, too, but. Way to go back in time, though. I'm just saying, no. Way to move your shit.
Starting point is 02:08:11 You see he's He's a shot back. Way to move your shit. Hey, Norris, you got to come stronger than this, man. All right, man. You got to come stronger than this. No, I'm just asking. You know you're going to get somebody different, man.
Starting point is 02:08:20 You guys come stronger than that. A good place for us. Bro, what the fuck they got to do with that? Good place for us to wrap up the show today. I just appreciate everybody. Because they was number one in the east. And K. Kenner was number one in the east.
Starting point is 02:08:31 Winby is Winby. That's why. Winby ain't moving. He wrote. Okay. Okay. We keep with me. How about Max?
Starting point is 02:08:35 He's averaging. averaging 25 and 15. Max, you stay in there too. Everybody stay where the fuck they're at. Nope. No way. That's why it's called the MVP race. That's why they got everybody in there.
Starting point is 02:08:43 It is a right. So that's why Joe's still in it? Yep, I guess so. All right, cool. Appreciate everybody on this couch, another successful week of spirited debate, discourse, all things basketball, pop culture. Get that text match, man.
Starting point is 02:08:56 I want that dope dealer, man. Because sometimes I want to, I told you what the dope dealer was. I just want to be on some, I just want to be on some shit this thing. I told you what it was. Monday, I'm on to come in here Tuesday, I'm just going to act of fool, but I need this. The two-pins.
Starting point is 02:09:08 That ain't going to get you no wins. You still going to be 78%. I don't need no wins. I just got to go to the chat. I got a question. Appreciate everybody on this couch. Appreciate everybody in the chat. Appreciate our entire crew.
Starting point is 02:09:20 This has been another episode of Gills Arena, presented by Underdog. Woo-brough! We'll see y'all next week.

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