Gil's Arena - Lexie's Arena GOES WILD Debating Doc Rivers & Team USA
Episode Date: January 24, 2024Lexie's Arena Gives Their Take on Doc Rivers To The Milwaukee Bucks as Gilbert Arenas, Mr. B and the rest of the Gil's Arena crew react to the news of Doc Rivers joining Giannis Antetokounmpo and Dami...an Lillard on the Bucks in hopes of returning to power in the NBA's Eastern Conference. They also react to Deandre Ayton saying he's worthy of a max contract, the wild finish to the Trailblazers & Thunder game, Team USA's player pool for the 2024 Olympics and OF COURSE, Draymond Green's controversial comments on Kevin Durant in the NBA Goat Discussion. Please throw us a like and subscribe if you enjoyed the show! Gil’s Arena premieres every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena SUBSCRIBE: / @gilsarena APPAREL PARTNERS TUFF CROWD: https://www.tuffcrowd.com/ ADIDAS: https://www.adidas.com/us/agent-gil-restomod-basketball-shoes/ Gr8ness: https://www.gr8nss.store/ Order Rashad's Book Here - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CD9ZQ3HD?ref_=pe_3052080_276849420 CHAPTERS: Intro 0:00:00 Show Start 0:03:22 Jay Z is Watching Gil's Arena! 0:05:04 FedEx vs UPS 1on1 Battle 0:07:43 Greatest Rivalry in Sports 0:11:25 Doc Rivers Hired As The New Bucks Coach 0:15:10 Doc's Past With Superstar Tandems 0:45:48 Blazers-Thunder WILD Finish 0:49:48 Gil Goes Off on The NBA Last 2 Minute Report 0:58:17 Deandre Ayton Says He's Still A MAX Player 1:02:49 Draymond Green Says KD Doesnt Belong As A GOAT 1:17:05 Team USA Player Pool 1:32:06 Kyrie's Fit On Team USA & Is The Pressure Off Him? 1:53:53 Saying Goodbye To Sports Illustrated 2:06:52 MostlyFans 2:23:00 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Change, yeah. Welcome back to Lexi's Arena, presented by Underdog Fantasy.
Whoa!
We had to wait until he finished.
Hey, some of y'all didn't clap loud enough out there.
All right.
Lexi don't play that shit.
There's two people in here.
Breaking the fourth wall. They don't know that. Well, it two people in here. Breaking the fourth wall.
They don't know that.
Well, it's six.
There's all five of us.
They working.
Oh yeah, they working.
They working.
Slow day in the arena.
We're going to be cracking.
We're just going to be.
See, you came through in the Deebo shirt.
You ready?
You got some things on your mind?
Let me hold up.
Brandon, tuck your chain in.
I'm going to tuck mine in. It's going up. Brandon, tuck your chain in. Tuck my hand in.
It's going to be an exciting day in the arena.
So this is Lexi's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.
We got the undisputed best shooter on the couch, Lexi Brown, back here with us.
Yay.
Y'all going to have to refill this thing.
She is using all of it.
She is using all of it.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't use it enough yesterday, so I'm going to use it today. You're going to use it up today? Yeah. Meanwhile. She's using all of it. I didn't use it enough yesterday, so I'm gonna use it today.
You gonna use it up today?
Yeah.
Sorry.
No, it's fine. It's a part of the job.
I accepted that when I became host of Lexi's Arena presented by Underdog Fantasy.
It comes with the territory.
We got the former namesake of the show, Gilbert Arenas.
Yep.
Best practice shooter on the couch.
Woo! Boo! of the show, Gilbert Arenas. Yep, best practice shooter on the couch. Whoo!
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You know in the NBA, they got, like, practice players?
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Lot of red on the couch, yo.
Thankfully, we're in the Valley.
Lot of red.
I got the memo.
That's a nice joke.
I got red hair, so.
Well, I asked.
And I was told, no, I can wear whatever I want.
They told me to wear red.
I said, can't do it.
It's a family thing.
Not allowed.
No red clothing at the house.
Don't have any red clothing.
We got Brandon Jennings back here with us representing Tough Crowd.
Milwaukee Bucks legend.
We got some Milwaukee Bucks things to discuss.
Hey, man, Hov said he'd be watching the broadcast.
Who?
You talked to him? Jay-Z. How'd you hear that? Yeah, yesterday. Like Jigga Man? Yeah, yesterday.. Hope said he'd be watching the broadcast who would you talk to Jay Z? How'd you hear that?
Yeah, yes, I did you come in. Yeah yesterday song. Yeah, I wanted to talk to I had talked to Emory yesterday
Okay, I hope I walked in for like five minutes first thing. He said was like I'll be seeing on that podcast
Daisy pull up. Yeah. Pull up. That was good enough right there. Yeah, I thought that was dope for us, man.
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So here's what's cracking in Lexi's arena today.
Draymond says, KD needs to do what Steph did in 2022 to get into the GOAT convo.
But is Steph in the GOAT Convo?
DeAndre Ayton has struggled during his time with the Blazers, but thinks he's still a
max player.
Is that facts or cap?
And Doc Rivers is the Bucks new head coach.
Glenn.
Damn.
Glenn Rivers.
I'm gonna call him Glenn.
Glenn Ayton Rivers.
But is he a good fit for the Bucks? Glenn Rivers. I'm going to call him Glenn. Glenn Aiton Rivers.
But is he a good fit for the Bucks?
And was there some potential dirty macking going on behind the scenes for him to learn that job?
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different uh when you think about great sports rivalries l Lakers, Celtics, Yankees, Red Sox, Cowboys, Eagles, Duke, North Carolina may come to mind. Cincinnati Xavier. Cincinnati Xavier. Okay.
They're going to leave us out. Xavier's a college? That's where I was going, bro.
Arizona State.
That's not Arizona State. That's not a rivalry.
Arizona State. But what about not rivalry. Arizona State.
But what about FedEx versus UPS?
FedEx driver and UPS driver got into a heated game of one on one recently.
FedEx got some explaining to do after their guy got okey doke, one of the oldest tricks
in the book.
So one person commented on a video. One person commented,
FedEx was lost just like my packages.
What y'all think about FedEx taking on UPS?
One-on-one battle.
Lexi, we'll start with you. This is your arena.
I mean, they work hard. They deserve to take
a few minutes out of their day to enjoy
themselves, so I'm not mad at that,
but they do be losing packages.
Tighten up.
This is why I should be late.
All across the country, these motherfuckers out here doing this right here.
Getting jumpers up, getting buckets.
Getting jumpers up.
I just want to know how that came about.
Like, were they both walking, and they both saw each other,
and then they saw the hoop, and they was like, let's play.
Let's battle.
The kids, fight the kids.
Y'all should play one-on-one.
That's funny, though.
Hopefully, none of their jobs got impacted,
because it was an enjoyable piece of content.
What y'all think about the FedEx UPS?
Virginie basketball rivalry.
I'm UPS, so.
Okay.
No FedEx?
No, I don't fucking FedEx.
You don't open the box?
No.
Send it back?
No.
You don't fucking FedEx?
I don't go through FedEx packages.
What about DHL?
What are all just a regular postal service?
They're gonna get their ass mopped up
Smopped up. No, it's funny though. It is funny kids probably hyped it like you said
Yeah, I bet you can't beat him. I bet you can't
He'll fry you.
He's out there talking cash. He's gonna fry you. Watch, watch.
I want to know if there's like a... there has to be someone in America's throwing a company game.
Oh for sure.
Yeah, you know like it's like a Park V games like on the weekends.
Police versus firemen.
Yeah, you know like shit like that
The office workers versus the people who was in like the package room
That's what about girls arena. We should take on other shows. Oh
We would kill everybody. Yeah, look. Yeah. Oh my god. I can see who's locking up podcast P
Who else he got on the team? No,? No. Jackie Long, Bucket Gitter, Dallas Rutherford.
Trapping.
Bucket Gitter back in his head.
Trapping Paul the whole time.
We're just trapping.
Trap.
Double triple teams.
Box three.
Everybody else.
Box three.
Does anybody want the Gills Arena crew smoke?
I'm setting screens.
Actually, no.
We got Rashad too.
Y'all got it. I'm hyping. I'm setting screens. Actually, no, we got Rashad too. Y'all got it. I'm hyping.
I coach. Let me assist you. I'm a shooter. You said you're going to coach. Yeah. No,
you have to play. For what? What do you mean? It's your show. You see my last couple games
in the NBA. I'm trying to think of more other shows we can go play, pick up with have their pod
We go let's get Pat better than that. Just him Gil shootout, but the shopper Pat Bell main event Gil shootout
Presented by this is one person that would be Joe. That's what we need to be still need to put that on
Yeah million dollar price the more that ones man, so it's rivalry week in the NBA, but what's the greatest rivalry in sports?
Duke UNC I figured you might go that route. Yeah, you might go that route
Ooh Chris Paul Rondo
Chris Paul Rondo baby, Some beef is long-lasting.
Yeah.
Brandon, what's the greatest rivalry?
I used to like UCLA and USC back in the day.
Yeah, it was.
I mean, hometown.
It was thriving.
It was thriving a little bit.
It was turned up.
Sports arena.
But UNC and Duke, for sure.
For sure.
What about Chris Paul, Scott Foster?
Oh.
Well, that's a one-sided one right there.
That ain't no rivalry.
That ain't no rivalry.
That's a domination.
Absolutely.
Okay, what's the greatest rivalry in your opinion in sports?
Yankees, Red Sox.
Even today?
Yeah, that shit's still, bro.
It goes down.
For all our East Coasters.
Ooh.
Well, this is before this year.
It was New York Knicks versus New York Knicks fans.
Yeah.
Gil, please.
Once again, add another city to the list where Gil's Arena is. I will.
University of Texas, Oklahoma.
Like that ride.
Was that the Red red river with a river
Florida Florida State
But yeah, dude UNC is the top of the list for sure your next fan not cowboys versus everybody
Cuz I'm sorry motherfucker. We got a big bag of Cowboys gear here here
I got some more to add to it, too. If you'd like any.
I found a jersey.
I got a Dak jersey.
I got some jackets that I didn't put in that motherfucker.
Not Dakota.
Oh, yeah, Dakota got it.
Yeah, Dakota Wayne got it.
You done with them for real.
I'm tired of them motherfuckers' legs.
So what if next year they like?
That's fine.
Great.
You not hopping back on?
No.
Miami Heat and Knicks used to be good in the 90s back in the day
That should always yeah, that's big. Yeah, but see that was the same fan base though. What like yourself Miami? Oh then
Celtics
They're Celtics still yeah
They got the most championships of each
Are you a football free agent? Are you moving on to a new team from the Cowboys?
I'm
independent.
Okay.
Free agent.
I've got favorite players now.
I'm watching teams.
I'm watching the Ravens.
Chad says McCants and Miko.
It's a good rivalry.
And with that in mind, let's keep this going.
Hey, that's the chat, man.
I'm just reading the chat.
The chat says a lot of stuff, dude.
You don't have to repeat everything.
Like your mother said, keep your mouth shut.
You talk too much.
Jordan Pippen.
Jordan Pippen.
Let's talk about the biggest news in the NBA going on right now.
Yeah, that's a rivalry.
And it's only gotten worse.
I need that wedding to be like a different world for those who remember.
Yeah, that's fucking horrible.
This guy just pulled up.
Hey, play the theme song.
Join the theme song.
That'd be fun.
Or the Chicago Bulls theme song.
Cat vs. Steve.
Cat vs. Kevin Hart. I'd like to see Cat song. Cat versus Steve. Cat versus Kevin Hart.
I'd like to see Cat versus Kevin Hart one-on-one basketball.
Somebody wrote Gil versus mid-range jumpers.
Small ball.
Agent 12 versus the middie.
Small ball.
Small ball.
Let's talk about the biggest news in the NBA.
After unconfirmed reports last night that the Bucks and Docs Rivers reached an agreement on the head coaching job,
those reports were confirmed this morning.
We're getting a little more clarity on the factors that led to the Bucs dismissing Adrian Griffin as head coach
and replacing him with Mr. Glenn Rivers.
So according to reports, Dame wasn't rolling with the Bucs' offensive scheme,
and Giannis had increasingly lost faith in Griffin.
Thanasis probably did too because he's a good big brother.
The Athletic also reported that Doc Rivers has been an informal consultant
with Adrian Griffin and the Bucs this season, and now he's the head coach.
So we got a special Mostly Fans question from T2 then on the situation. What up, Lexi's Arena? Shout out to everybody on the situation.
What up, Lexi's Arena?
Shout out to everybody on the couch.
Bucks just got their new head coach, Doc Rivers.
With that being said, is it clear now
that Giannis' little brother is really untouchable?
Shout out to everybody on the couch.
Shout out to home team.
Tough girl. Okay, I home team. Tough girl.
OK, I'll let him make it.
Wait, did he said his brother's untouchable, like,
because he got to be home?
Wherever Giannis go, if the Nastas go, I feel like they're a.
You know where they're trying to trade him?
Nah.
Why they acting like the Nastas is like a tradable player?
I feel like behind the scenes, the Nastas
has a lot more power than we might acknowledge.
He was really getting this going.
He has to when he acts on the bench and on the court.
He has to.
My little brother team, homie.
But Brandon, resident Bucs fan, Bucs in six.
What are your thoughts on Doc Rivers taking over as Bucs head coach?
I mean, we'll see.
We will see, man.
What will we see, Brandon? What will we see?
We will see the Bucks in the finals.
What?
Not everybody laughs.
What finals? The NBA finals.
He don't know who his coach is.
I mean, he won a ring.
Oh, my God.
You don't know Glenn.
You don't know Glenn like I know Glenn.
You don't know Glenn like I know Glenn.
They Glenn.
They Glenn.
Glenn Rivers.
Y'all in trouble, goddammit. Seriously. Why are the Bucks in trouble with Glenn Rivers as their head coach?
I'm calling him Doc. I got respect for him.
Do you know his resume?
Like, what the fuck has he actually done?
He's won a ring with Boston.
Made it to the finals, what, two times?
With Boston?
With the team that was favorite every year after they got Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen.
And then that same championship year, they had to go seven games in the first round to
the eighth seed.
That they did not win a game on the road.
They won all the games at home.
Second round, they did not win a game at, on the road. They won all the games at home. Second round, they did not win a game at, on
the road.
Went seven.
First two rounds, they went straight seven
games with some trash
ass teams, and they didn't
win in that team's arena.
That, Glenn,
that was shit.
We need some more pieces.
We need some defenders. I don tell you this. We need some more pieces. We need some defenders.
I don't give a fuck what they say about the resume.
This is all you need to know.
Besides Red Auerbach, and we can even challenge his talent pool,
you know Doc probably has the most Hall of Fame players he's coached.
He's coached the most Hall of Fame players in NBA history.
I'll put like 68%.
I don't see anyone just thinking that someone has a better list than him.
He has about 20 to 21 Hall of Famers under his belt.
And if Ben Simmons makes it, he will be at it.
If Maxie ever makes it, he will be at it.
Like, he's done coached that many, that much talent,
and only has one championship on the given.
So you said Milwaukee
bit themselves in the foot right here?
From his
resume?
He doesn't
adjust well.
He doesn't adjust well.
If you beat him with,
let's just say, going left, he won't
adjust to that. So you're going to
beat his ass the same way every single time because he won't adjust.
I knew something was wrong with him when this happened.
It was Clippers versus Houston.
They were up 3-1.
And the coach said, the coach said, we're going to hack DeAndre Jordan, right?
And he asked Doc. And Doc said, well, if they're going to hack DeAndre Jordan, right? And he asked Doc.
And Doc said, well, if they're going to hack DeAndre Jordan,
we're going to hack Howard.
And I'm like, they're going to lose doing that
because you don't have a one-on-one player.
You don't have James Harden.
Chris Paul don't really get to the free throw line like that.
And if he does, you're in trouble.
J.J. Ray don't get to the free throw line.
Blake Griffin, right, he has to get to the free throw line like that, and if he does, you're in trouble. J.J. Ray don't get to the free throw line. Blake Griffin, right, he has to get to the free throw line off of just bounce passes
and try to go up there and dunk.
You don't have anybody that's going to generate fouls once you get into the penalty.
So that would be dumb for you.
That would be great for them because now you can't touch James Harden when James Harden
wants to get busy.
So if you try to, and he copied it every single time. They get the fouling,
he gets the fouling. They get the fouling, he gets the fouling.
Soon as the game, soon as they're in a penalty,
hey, Dwight, sit down.
James Harden, one-on-one.
Game seven, James Harden shot 18
free throws.
So,
are you saying that you're not feeling the
Doc River to the Bucs move?
No, I mean, I don't mind that he got a job.
I can just tell you as a Buck fan, y'all ain't going to win shit.
As long as he's there?
I mean, didn't he have, it was like, didn't we just see him in, how many times?
Like, look at the great team.
Like, this man's had great teams.
That Boston team, it was a great team.
You won the first year, and then you suffered every single,
that LA Clipper team, you had a lot of talent over there.
You didn't do nothing.
Philly, you had a great team in Philly.
So Lexi, this is your arena.
What are your thoughts on Doc Rivers being named as the Bucks head coach?
It's just a little confusing.
I mean, we talked about it yesterday,
just the whole firing of the previous coach and immediately bringing in Doc.
Usually that takes a little bit of time to find the replacement.
Okay.
So just trying to see, I don't know if it'll be released or not,
what was going on behind the scenes
for all of this to transpire.
And then reports come out
that Doc was helping out the Bucks
and the coach.
That is also a little odd.
But...
Wait, hold on.
Say that again?
They said he was, like,
helping out the team and the coach.
Like, mentoring or informal consulting
Consulting so y'all gonna hire a motherfucker that was gonna salt to me on the plays that I was using
I'm doing exactly what this motherfucker was telling me to do it you find
What to do doc was the one come when correcting him like yeah, you run that yeah run that do that
Yeah, do that do that do that shit. Like, yeah, you run that. Yeah, run that. Do that. Do that. Yeah, do that.
Do that.
Do that shit.
Yeah, go ahead.
That's going to work.
That's going to work.
Right there.
Run that play.
Right there.
He running it that way.
The Dulo twist.
So, do you feel like
Doc Rivers may or may not
have done some dirty macking?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't want to put that
on the man's character.
Okay.
That ain't on me
to put on his character.
I don't...
Could have been, yeah.
Could have not been, yeah.
But...
A little odd, though,
that I'm informally consulting this squad.
Shortly thereafter, y'all fired the head coach,
and now I'm...
Yeah, no, it's just...
The full-time consultant, if you will.
Yeah, no.
Like Doc as a person,
got nothing against him,
but I'm kind of on what Gil is saying in that regard.
Right?
Man had a hell of a lot of talent, dog.
Hell of a lot of talent, year in, year out.
And some, yeah, because in the playoffs, it comes, we all know, man,
that it comes down to making adjustments, rotations, do's, don'ts,
it's just something.
When the game is on the line, it just ain't there.
And when the series is on the line, it ain't there.
And, of course, we go out and play,
but
situational things and certain
things need to be done
and certain guys don't need to play
and some guys do need to play.
We've all sat there
and watched it in real time and wondered
like, hmm.
I wonder.
Like, so.
No question.
But he got a chance to prove us wrong, though.
Go ahead.
So with them, I guess, since a lot of people don't agree with Doc Rivers,
since they're kind of making like a panic coach's decision,
do you think they should keep Chris Middleton?
If I could get something for Chris Middleton right now,
I would try to move him.
That could help.
Because it seems like since people don't like Doc,
it's like they're panicking.
Yeah, definitely panic mode.
But, shit, if I'm reaching out to Chicago, I like that that'd be a good move exactly vein straight up, but
That's basketball I'm just thinking basketball turn with a
Third score right now what you probably need to compete
Yeah, but everything else that you have on the roster Like I like they got some solid NBA players don't get me wrong, but I think they like like Chris Miller
He's just right now where he's been
In and out
We got in the arena this would have to be like like that third option that clay was when I absolutely know Katie was there
Absolutely Somebody left the door open.
Yeah, nah.
Anybody in that Arizona group chat, if you...
Or, no, no, not...
It wouldn't be on the Arizona group chat.
If...
Ooh, that would be Tommy Shepard or...
It'd be Tommy Shep.
How many group chats you got, Gil?
A bunch. It'd be Tommy Shep. How many group chats you got, Gil?
A bunch.
Okay.
It'd be Tommy Shep and...
Calvin Booth.
Denver Nuggets.
When they were down, when they were up 3-1,
and I wrote a whole game plan.
Long-ass thing.
And I said, slow, and I said,
slow the game down. I said, to beat the I said, slow the game down.
I said, to beat the Clippers,
slow the game down.
I said, they're great when the game is going on because they got
like four guys who's averaging 20.
So all of them eat.
If you slow the game down, keep it in between
like 100 to 110, under
110, it favors Denver.
It favors Jokic because it's more of a half-court
game and he can dominate in the half-court. If you put less meat, which means possessions,
onto the field, those guys start looking at each other. They start fighting over who's going to
get the shots. And I said, however you win, don't change your game plan because Doc is horrible at
adjusting. And I wrote wrote he's horrible at adjustments
However, you beat him in game five. You're gonna beat him in game six and seven. He won't change at all. I
Wish that my hope one of them can see the tip you so I can show you this is to the 2020
We had you text email you got a Google Docs. Good. You say is everything you think you are gonna like judge
him taking over as a coach
During playoffs like does the regular season even matter at this point or is it how he handles his team in playoffs?
I think playoffs. Yeah, well, they gotta spin for example say if they fall from two
Well, they got to spend the rest of this regular season learning his system to get ready for the playoffs
For that's what they finna do right now. Like they got to spend the rest of this shit getting ready for the playoffs. That's what they finna do right now. They gotta
spend the rest of this shit getting
ready for the playoffs. They got enough
talent. If they don't change anything
right now, Dame
and Giannis can do
what they gotta do to get them over the top.
If they don't make any moves,
if Chris Middleton stay healthy and he's continuing
to work on it throughout the season,
then I think he's definitely reliable and source
Don't get me wrong. I like Chris Milton, but we can get exactly being out. I would do that
But yeah, I just think they gonna have to use the record should arrest the regular season like what kid that down pat
What system because I don't know whatever it is
If Dame didn't like
Adrian Griffin's playbook,
you think he don't like Doc's?
Doc never had a scoring guard.
Just pick and roll shit.
Pick and roll with him and Giannis.
I'm telling you, the shit with James,
all that shit.
James struggled under him.
He didn't like that shit.
When he left the league in assists.
Y'all kept throwing that fucking stat at me. Yeah, but he don't like it.
You know what I'm saying?
But you know what I'm saying?
James Harden didn't like that shit
because you're not letting me do what I want to do.
Same thing.
Ben Simmons didn't like that shit.
You're not letting me do what I want to do.
Rondo is a cis guy.
Chris Paul is a cis guy.
Dame is a score.
So if he didn't like A. Griffin...
I'm with you.
I'm just saying.
But he's new and they've been winning
second best record in the NBA. That's what I'm saying. And but he's new and they've been winning, man, second, fucking second
best record in the NBA.
That's what I'm saying, so.
And they made a fucking change.
Yeah, I mean, they gotta win it, man.
I mean, they gotta win it to me.
You number two.
But it's a lose, it's a lose-lose.
Like, Doc, what do you, like this is not a job that I would have personally took.
Because it gets me fired.
Yeah, but if you was already fired. Well, guess what?
Yeah.
I've been fired before.
No, that's what I'm saying.
It gets me fired quicker because this team is supposed to win the championship.
Now, if they do win the championship, he won't get credit for it
because this was a championship team.
We made this trade for a championship
So you're doing exactly what he was on schedule to do so you don't get credit for this your credit comes next year
Right, so you win a championship this year. Yeah, everyone's gonna cheer but it's what are you gonna do next year?
Because that's when your time ticks
right
And then if you don't win it this year, they're going to be like, yo, we brought you in here to...
So most likely, three-year job.
So there were reports that...
It's a three-year...
No different than...
It's a three-year job.
So there were reports that
during the hiring process,
Nick Nurse kind of emerged
as one of the top candidates.
Giannis wasn't feeling Nurse,
decided to go with Griffin.
But to your point,
you're trying to win a championship,
have a championship-level coach.
Do you entrust a rookie head coach to do that
with no coaching experience in the postseason?
I'm just saying from the jump to the scene, a little...
What I'm saying is you're not feeling Nick Nurse.
I mean, did you...
Do you know his plays?
Like what I'm saying, You're making decisions on stuff that
It's more emotional than anything. I want I want Griffin because I want my friend
versus a coach that's trying to win so
Yeah, like why would you get a rookie coach if you try and win a championship too?
It just seems a little unclear what Giannis wants at this point
But you
Everyone wants a championship, so.
Like, you know,
why would you go get a rookie coach, though,
if you want to win a championship?
This is first year, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Didn't they hire him before they got Dame?
He just got hired in.
Yes, his first year.
That's what I'm talking about.
But before Dame, right?
Yeah, he was hired before Dame.
Yeah, so they kind of flipped the expectations on him, and I think that's unfair. Huh, his first year. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, he just got hired. But before Dame, right? Yeah, he was hired before Dame. Yeah, so they, like,
kind of flipped
the expectations on him,
and I think that's unfair.
Huh?
But the expectations...
I mean, you always want to win, right?
The expectation
to always win a championship.
But they weren't expecting
to be able to make
that trade happen with Dame.
So Dame gets here.
The expectations shift
a little bit for a rookie coach,
and now he's fired.
But, yeah,
but that Bucs team
number one in the East
last year,
as constructed,
if Giannis gets hurt in the first round, they lose to the Heat.
I think, you know, Brandon, you're more clear on this,
but there was an expectation coming into the season, regardless of whatever,
that it was still championship-level roster.
Now Dane pops up like, oh, now we are.
Now we are definitely.
For certain that we're going to.
They were 33 and what?
30 and 13 right now, I believe.
You got to take, but, okay, they second in the East, and they just got the second and it's got the second best record in there time for the second best record in the NBA, right?
Boston definitely got better. Yes. Yes definitely got bad. Yes, we'd all can they fucking got better
They're just it's just yeah, I really want to know what, it just can't be that dang, we unhappy with the system
or I'm not getting the ball enough or I'm not getting the ball where I need it.
I'm not rolling with that shit.
I think it's ego.
I'm not rolling with that.
That too.
I never understood.
Who's ego?
The players.
I mean, shit.
Not both. The players, both kind of. I mean, shit, the players, both, kind of.
I mean, it's different.
Like when you're used to every night getting it,
getting the ball, and now you got to...
Man, sometimes you got to prove a motherfucking point.
As a coach, motherfuckers over here crying about
they should be playing.
Oh, really?
Hold on, time out.
You, you, you, sit.
You, go in there
Go run offense where you like it
Watch this shit y'all
Watch the motherfucker fail and then now sit your ass over here. Like I told you I go fire the coach
What have you been they going for her to cut the coach? They really got in fired. Anyway, you're 30 and 13, right? You want all the shots? Oh didn't call you play every single time
Let's see how this work out.
Let's see how it work out.
Like, sometimes as coaches, you got to, like, we don't know your vision.
We can only see ours.
So someone has to prove their point.
And if you're not willing to, then the players is.
Right.
Right.
Right.
You know, if I think this motherfucker ain't going to get the ball and I don't want to pass it down there,
then me and you are going to bump anyway.
So I'm like, all right, watch this.
Look at that, fumble hands.
There you go.
Right?
That's going to end up happening.
Right?
So, you know, as a coach, sometimes, you know,
when you feel like you're losing the locker room,
you got to say, all right, we're going to do it your way.
Let's see how this works.
Okay, you talked about Celtics getting better, obviously Adam Porzingis,
but the Bucs helped that.
Sending Drew, the part I did with the Blazers, Joe Cronin, mastermind.
I know the Blazers was going to be assed, so here, we'll go ahead
and send Drew back to the east of Boston.
Now what y'all going to do?
Yeah, hey, it's part of doing business, man.
The game is the game, as they say.
Decisions you make, sometimes they come back to bite you in your ass, man.
Immediately.
Yeah, karma is right away.
Sometimes karma is immediately.
It's instantly.
And in this case?
So we talked about the Bucs' defensive issues,
but Gil, as you pointed out, scoring more points per game,
I think their net rating...
It's plus, yeah.
It has increased, but is that more of a concern now?
And what moves should they look to make
to strengthen the defensive side of the ball
if they're going to make one?
It don't make sense.
From last year to this year they're plus two. So they're two points better all around defense and offense. They're two points better than
they were last year. So 116, they're giving up 113. They're giving up 119 but
they're scoring 125. Right? You're better. Okay. Right? That's how you're
supposed to look at it. You don't supposed to look at it, oh you're better. Okay. That's how you're supposed to look at it.
You're not supposed to look at, oh, you're giving up 119?
Yeah, motherfuckers, but I'm scoring a lot more.
Regular season, though, when playoffs hit now,
you have that same expectation.
We can only go by when we see the playoffs.
Right now, they're a better team overall than they were last year.
That's what the numbers say.
And is Giannis pushing for Griffin,
then getting him fired, a setback
for the player empowerment crowd?
Everybody want to...
So is Giannis pushing for Griffin,
then getting him fired halfway
through the season, a setback for the
player empowerment crowd? Everybody wants to be
the GM nowadays.
Be careful.
It's not for everybody. Be careful.
Not everybody's good at that.
Be careful doing that.
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
The Bucs got to win it, like, in these next two years.
If they don't, it's a failure to me.
And then you could look to start moving pieces again at this point.
So, I mean, to me, I think they got to win it this year
or next year.
And we got some breaking news. Austin Rivers
just signed with the Bucs.
Not his fucking tribe.
Jay Vision in the chat. Shout out.
I mean, ain't nothing wrong with that.
Best of the best.
Damn, man.
It ain't about the players. It's about that coaching staff.
So, with that coaching staff in mind,
Doc has shown that he can win a chip with a supremely talented team.
That is a fact.
He's also shown that he can trick off chips with talented teams.
More trick off than he does win.
Now, the amount of power he has retained from that one championship is insane.
They act like it's a dynasty.
No, man.
Okay, please.
This is Lexi's arena.
So I've been a part...
So I've been a part of a coaching...
So when my... Shit.
My first year in Denver, we had three coaches.
Damn. In one year?
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, shit.
Damn.
Yeah, that shit was clusterfuck.
Clusterfuck.
Oh, when I first got there way of Jeff Bisdelic.
Like, it just... Don't even know who that is.
Wasn't going to, like...
I wondered how he had the job before I got...
Like, when I got there, and I saw how the shit was,
and I was questioning, like, yo, how the fuck...
Them niggas was wild, dog.
When I got to Denver in 2000,
them young boys, their team was fucking out of control.
Like, you couldn't imagine shit that was going on when I got there. And shit that I was hearing
that was going on the year before, I'm like, oh these motherfuckers is crazy, man.
Like for me to come in thinking like, I'm thinking, I'm wild to a certain degree.
There's a certain shit I'm not going to do.
But had him, he started the year they fired him.
We had Micah Cooper, briefly.
Cooper Luke.
Micah Cooper.
Shout out Micah Cooper.
High socks.
First name.
If it is to be, it's up to me.
Shout out, Kool Camp.
Kool Byron.
I don't want, yeah.
He got fired quick.
We get it.
One of my heroes.
No, but it's.
Whatever Kool Camp was, he got fired quick.
Just lie, just lie.
But to get the job, it was like what you keep saying, Joe, like, is that shit going on?
And then they brought in the fuck dude, George Carl.
Or Head Carl.
Right?
But we didn't, so to the staff, right?
In this situation with, because we was early in the season.
Like, they fired Jeff Bedelli early.
And then Coop took over for, like, ten games.
Dang.
Oh, it was quick.
And then we were, like, three and seven.
They were like, shit, who available?
God damn.
Yo.
So, but they kept the staff that we are because there was no turnover right away.
So, but George eventually brought somebody in that he his people
Do doc bring like his other people in right now so everybody go with agent Griffin
At this particular point, you know, they third like like is that part of this gig right now?
Everybody out which is yeah, that's I'm just wondering like you kept the same assistance with that. Yeah, because it was quick
Okay, I guess a we didn't wondering, like... But you kept the same assistance with that... Yeah, because it was quick.
Okay.
Like, I guess we didn't have... But as players, how are you looking at...
Like, did you...
It all depends on money.
Shit, I mean...
I ain't even trying to really form no relationship with you,
dog.
I don't know how you...
It all depends on contracts, right?
You're going...
That means you have to hurry up
and sign all the assistance he wants.
Yeah. If they're available, right? Imagine... They have to hurry up and sign all the assistants he wants. Yeah.
If they're available, right? They are.
They are. Fucking boy.
They are. They're available.
They're all available. Every single one of the motherfuckers.
I'm available too. Y'all saw my... He was the only one doing
TV. He was the only one working.
Hey, y'all. I'm on standby.
Yeah, we gonna...
Back in the building.
Give us three more years
Then we're gonna look for our next job
It can hire me so crazy man, I'm sorry
He wrote a nice thing
Is there any more coaching candidates? I'm just like name McMill Tony. No, man, stop these motherfucking coaches, man.
I want to win with God damn Tony.
Just go get a whole new breed of new coaches.
Like, give somebody else a shot to be terrible.
Yo, I got a question.
Yo.
Shit.
I got a question.
Who's Sam Cassell piss off?
Nobody.
He just don't want to be a head coach?
Nah, Doc. He's Doc's assistant. But I'm saying be a head coach? Nah, Doc.
He's Doc's assistant.
But I'm saying he got a job right now, though.
Where you working at?
Ain't in Boston.
Oh, shit.
Let me use Google.
He's an assistant in Boston, if I'm not mistaken.
Oh, shit.
Doc in trouble.
Right?
Oh, if he's in Boston?
Yeah.
Doc in trouble, boy.
If I'm not mistaken.
No, he's in Boston right now. He's an assistant in If I'm not mistaken. No, he's in Boston right now.
He's an assistant in Boston.
So therefore.
Next year, he going to be in Milwaukee.
So therefore, like I'm saying, who's, why, does Sam not want to be a head coach?
I don't think, Sam is that type of personality.
Is that his personality?
Yeah, his personality.
I think he likes being the assistant.
I got you.
But maybe, maybe over time, like right now he's in change.
But I know when I played and he was the assistant coach he wanted it he'd like to be an assistant
Okay, I can understand maybe now he might I can understand that but yeah, yeah, I would have got Dan
Tony what the fuck are they got? Oh
They write it to their favor no, I don't I mean they must score right so let's get up in now
You need that
Let's get up it. I mean because that. Let's get up and now.
I mean, because if we're not going to get any defenders
and we panic him like this, then we might as well just –
And we're trying to outscore him.
Trying to get more possessions in the game.
Let's just keep getting possessions.
If we're going to do it like that.
I'm with you.
I mean, yeah, just –
If we're just going to take away defense and forget it,
then all right, well, then let's try to get more possessions.
So, like we said, Doc can win chips with a supremely talented team,
can also trick off chips with talented teams,
has the record for most blown 3-1 leads in league history,
also 6-10 in game sevens,
which is the most losses for a coach in league history.
But having said that, considering Doc's questionable resume,
if Giannis wins a title with Doc Rivers,
should he be in the GOAT conversation?
Who be in the GOAT?
What conversation?
For Giannis, elevating Doc to great heights.
Taking that stigma.
The GOAT of what?
Coaching?
No, Giannis.
Oh, Giannis.
Not Doc.
Nobody's the GOAT.
Stop it, man.
The fuck, Joe? Sigh at that bullshit, man, this is Lexi's arena. I do what I want
But just like I told you on the chat next you can't be mentioned
You can't be mentioned in the goat conversation unless they give you a farewell tour
So yeah, yeah, and it's not getting a farewell to do you can only years. I don't know all I'm doing is fucking boy
15 years away from my time. Yeah, get a farewell tour. That means, like,
you're not that important to the game.
If the Nats is going to get one,
two, win him.
It's both of ours.
This man 15 years away from retiring.
Y'all talking about
GOAT conversation.
One more title.
He got fucking one title.
If he can elevate Doc
and shake the Doc stigma,
turn Doc into an elite NBA head coach.
He needs two more...
He needs two, three more MVPs,
a couple more championships, man.
Just to fight for number two.
Just to get on the fucking page.
Just to get Doc back in the middle.
Like, on the page.
No, what I'm saying is, let's just think about it.
If Kobe or LeBron is two and three, right, no matter how you want to flip it,
who the fuck is coming?
Who the fuck is coming in this generation
that's going to compete with their resume
to even get in front of them?
Dude.
Right? To be in the conversation.
When we talk about a conversation, right?
If Kobe and LeBron is going to be two and three, right?
And people...
What resume do you think you got to have to just surpass LeBron?
Right.
What do you, 50,000 points?
I mean, what do you, like, come on.
Six championships.
Six championships.
Like, you have to have a hell of a resume.
Six league MVP.
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
In the same year. Just to get... In the same year.
Just to get closer. You got to do what Mike
did. Yeah, yeah.
You got to do what...
Regular season MVP, finals MVP.
You got to like...
Come on, man.
I got to stop basketball for you.
That's what I'm saying. So let's just stop with the
goat. Like there's no...
Okay, this is Lexi.
Let's just name it some other shit.
You know, kind of like how they did with the Max, right?
The Super Max.
There's a Super Max, right?
You know, I'm a Max player.
That's congratulations, motherfucker.
There's a whole other category.
There's another fucking category.
And we will talk about that in a second.
But I'm just going to redraw this quote real quick.
So the Bucks believe River rivers history of coaching star tandems makes him uniquely suited to maximize the Giannis and
Damian Lillard
The Bucks believe rivers history of coaching star tandems makes him uniquely suited to maximizing Giannis and James
So much better ego thing for sure.
That means managing.
Not success, just history.
Managing them, keeping them happy.
That's what that sounds like.
That's what he put on his resume.
Hey, listen, man.
It's a new era.
It's a new era in Milwaukee, man.
So we'll see. Which tandems?
We'll see.
It's either going to go up or it's going to go down.
I'm just saying, his history on tandems.
Which, who?
Because, yeah, Embiid and Harden were not very happy.
It can only go one way.
He does have a history, though.
Up or down.
History of, I'm sorry to say, he had 20 Hall of Famers.
Again, didn't say successful, just said history.
The word is very important.
20 plus, he had the most talent in NBA history he's uncoached.
Had on the bench.
And he got one championship out of it.
Him and the other guy I played for.
George Carl?
How many Hall of Famers he?
I'm saying just talent.
Oh, I'm talking.
You said, no.
I was just saying Hall of Famers.
And when you started adding just pure talent.
Just needed to hear.
He wanted to start adding the extra talent.
That's what I mean.
Everybody that he's coached.
Huh?
Everybody that the man has coached.
Doc Rivers also good at Excel, Microsoft Office, Photoshop, clean driving record.
It's foolish.
Resume.
But let's keep this thing moving.
Add it to his resume.
Put it on the resume.
I coached him.
I didn't say anything.
I'm just saying.
I did it.
Shit.
I didn't say I was good, man.
Kenyon, our producers wanted to give you a fun fact.
George Carl lost in the first round of the playoffs 14 times.
Dang.
Doc, I bet you.
Come on, Doc.
Come on, Doc.
You have that information.
I can't wait till June, bro.
Oh, no.
We're going to play this back.
Just from Seattle to Milwaukee to, Milwaukee, just go down the list.
Where are we going to be in June?
Just think about Seattle.
Where are we going to be in June?
We're going to be in Milwaukee.
But what are we going to be doing in Milwaukee?
Are we going to be celebrating NBA Finals basketball there,
or are we going to be at a sports bar watching?
First of all, we're going to do a live show.
We'll take you out to Elsys, Carnivores.
We're going to do a live show somewhere,
and we're going to be celebrating.
But are we going to be watching the Celtics?
Yeah, yeah.
And the Nuggets in the finals?
Y'all remember the...
We might want to go early,
just so we can get to the finals.
Let's do it April.
And then go back in the finals.
Y'all remember the Hawks series?
Y'all remember the Hawks series?
Y'all remember the Connivores?
You remember the Hawks series?
Hell yeah.
You remember the Hawks series?
You remember the Hawks series?
Which one?
When Doc was coaching.
Trey Young then, when he was playing against Trey Young.
Remember he lost to them?
And beat.
Remember he let that,
the thing was a Caucasian that came and had 20 points?
That offset the,
at 20 points.
20.
Caucasians are good at basketball too.
Right, because he kept Curry in.
Yeah, but you know.
Kevin Herter. You know one thing about him. What's his name? Kayvon, Kevin Herter. Oh yeah. Okay, we're gonna basketball because he kept he kept curry in yeah, but you know
One thing about his name Kayvon Kevin hurt. Yeah
Came out there and burned him like oh
Yeah, you know one thing about the past we learned from it
He got a chance to prove everybody wrong maybe he'd been at home he'd been'd been on TV watching. Like, shit, I'm going to run that.
I'm going to run the shit out of these plays.
I'm going to run that.
Going home, putting shit in the...
Maybe it's that.
He never did commentating in between his jobs before, so maybe...
Exactly.
Maybe he was at home watching Indiana.
He ain't never coached a player like Giannis.
Giannis.
Facts.
And then he got a point guard.
He ain't never coached a point guard like...
Facts.
By day.
Means he ain't got no place
for neither two of them
He ain't got a place
Yeah
Yeah, we'll be waiting
naysayer, though. Yeah. We'll be waiting. Naysayer. Yeah, I'm a naysayer.
For sure.
Let's keep moving. I'll be the first one to be like, all right, Doc, you done got it.
We're going to see next year, though, Doc.
I can't wait for the interaction in the Wynn Lobby at Summer League when you and Doc see each other.
What's going to happen?
Wynn Lobby.
I mean, he should be coaching Summer League.
But let's talk about the wild finish in the Blazers' Thunder game on Tuesday. I mean should he should be coach of summer league
Let's talk about the the wild finish in the Blazers Thunder game on Tuesday
So late in the game with the Blazers leading by one
Brogdon was being trapped near the sideline
Blazers coach Chauncey Bill tempted to call a timeout
It's called a double dribble built to can give it two sacks, boot it from the game.
First for making contact with the rep, according to Bill Kennedy.
And second for being too turnt up on the Lord's Tuesday.
So Thunder seized the opportunity,
and Jalen Williams put the team on his back and did this.
We're just waiting. There it is.
Game time.
Bucket and Anthony Simons grew.
In the after.
Wait, so they called the jump ball, right?
Called double dribble. Oh, right? Called double dribble.
Oh, they called the double dribble.
While he was calling timeout, two techs hit the showers.
He missed one, made one.
Can we go back to that double dribble?
I'm sorry.
Let's just go.
Let's just go.
I just feel like refs need to have a sense of awareness
and moments that maybe a coach is trying to call a timeout,
so I should probably pay one of us to pay this to the coach.
See, hold on. Let's look.
See, this is what I'm talking about right here.
So let's stop it right here from the beginning, right?
Yeah. Yeah.
Let's look at the... Yeah, let's go to this one then.
Let's look at the other one. Paul.
Okay, right there.
All right, go back. Hold on. The ref not even looking at Chauncey. He. Paul. OK, right there. No, he started coming in a little late. Hold on.
The ref not even looking at Chauncey.
He should have called timeout right before.
OK.
Right.
Now go forward a little bit.
Look where the ref is.
Right?
No.
Hm.
Who was the double dribble on?
See, the ref didn't look at the double dribble.
He's looking at the coach called double dribble.
He don't know.
From his angle, his back is behind the play,
so he don't know if the ball was actually hit.
Because if both players put their hands on the ball.
Can we go back a little bit?
I can't hear him, though.
You can hear him.
I mean, it might be loud or something,
but what I'm saying is go back a little back a little bit right, but this coach number 30
This is number 30s play. You don't know if yeah
30 now go let's see when he called timeout
It looks like he's yelling at there before he makes 30 ref okay, so right now
So timeout before the ball like this what so you need to call that look look look
His whistles so late on this but let's go back and look at the play though on the game winner the game
Can we pull up the game winner please follow?
Stop it now. Stop stop
Jeremy Grant beat already
Because he anticipated the screen coming right now, but he's guessing that the screen is gonna come already
He's fucking beat the boy wants to go left like if you read shit scouting report
It's gonna fucking tell you that this boy wants to go left. He gonna pull up like let's let's go there. I run it
Guessing get look why are you on that side?
No screen, though. There was no screen.
That's a good play call.
There was no screen.
Stay with your man.
Stay with your goddamn man. Square him up.
All right, that's...
Why didn't they...
Like, you... Why would...
What's up?
Why wouldn't you what?
You know there's only a couple seconds left.
Why wouldn't you just stay with the ball?
With him?
Well, he was expecting a screen.
He was anticipating a screen.
He was trying to get a switch.
He was trying to switch.
He was trying to get the switch.
But he ghosted it.
Yeah, go back.
He was dirty on the side.
Because, yeah, so he.
Because they got him on that.
What, the sevens and downs?
They both got to say anything?
They must have said something.
Those two.
Oh, hey, look.
That's bad defense.
One.
That's a horrible fucking defense.
Two.
They messed up the down screen with Chet and SGA. Those two. Oh, they look. That's bad defense. One. That's a horrible fucking defense. But they're three guarding two.
They messed up the downspout with Chet and SGA.
What I'm saying is-
Because if Jeremy Grant on, he probably don't get this off because Jeremy Grant is taller.
No, no, no.
Switch.
Go back.
I'm going to show you.
This was the best defense they could have did because... What's this guard right here?
SGA right there?
No, the defense.
Simons.
Anthony Simons?
Simons.
He shouldn't even be here.
Remember, he switched, so he should be with Holcomb.
Absolutely.
So technically, he's out of this play.
He's supposed to be out of the play, absolutely.
So this is the fact that he actually stayed as a reason to jump shot,
or this would have been the motherfucking layup.
Yeah.
But my thing is, so if Jeremy Grant stays on him, it's a tougher shot.
Yeah.
Because Jeremy Grant is taller.
That's what I'm saying.
No, no, no.
But this, now go.
Grant was looking for the switch the entire position.
Grant is switching with the number 34.
Supposed to be.
Yeah, so.
He was looking for the switch.
Yeah, so Simons is the one who actually stops this play.
Yeah.
He wouldn't even be here.
This was a dunk.
Yeah.
For sure.
From looking for him, he was beat from the beginning. That's what my point is. This was a dunk. Yeah. For sure.
He was beat from the beginning.
Yeah.
That's my point.
Because he's looking for the switch from the beginning.
Which is why that ghost screen is so good.
Anthony Simons is the one who stopped it.
Yeah, he saved it by just being smart.
Being dumb.
Just being dumb.
And Grant still didn't stay with the ball, which is so crazy.
And he ain't guarding nobody.
Like, what are you doing?
I would send two to the ball.
The one thing I hate about the referees on this instance is he's trying to call a timeout.
You don't give it to him, right?
But you give him a technical in the middle of a one-point game?
The fuck is wrong with you?
And you know the Blazers need it.
They're up one.
You just tied the game right there.
Boom.
Technical.
And then kicked him out.
Right?
On a double dribble.
So you technical.
You tied the game.
You called a double dribble.
Instead of being a turnover.
Right?
Turnover.
Shut up.
I missed it.
Get the fuck on.
Right?
It's their ball.
You give them a technical that ties the game. And it get the fuck on right it's their ball you give them a technical
that ties the game and they get the ball back right and then the other dude who ain't even a
part of this conversation you give them another tech to kick them out so now technically in theory
they go up one so they go from down one to up one now with the ball. So if there was... Now you will force this team, instead of playing
defense, to have to foul.
And that's...
Like, where is the human
behavior here? Where is...
Where's the read the room? Yeah, like,
come on, like, refs. Read the room. Like, yeah.
Yeah, beyond, like, yo, it's A, A, A.
Imagine when it's overtime, now they don't
have their head coach, like,
stupid. Like, it's like I'm... Like't have their head coach. Like, stupid.
Like, calm down.
We're all, whew, relaxed.
Get the fuck back.
I missed it.
My bad.
The shit is loud.
I'm looking at the play, and I missed what you were calling.
My bad.
I'm not going to give you a fucking technical.
We won this game.
The referees did this.
Like, we won.
Right? We gave them two chances at points
and gave them the ball.
I can't do that.
Those are things you just can't do as referees.
Yeah, they challenged
the game. So, Portland
did.
They challenged it? Yeah, they protested the game.
So, what happened?
I don't know yet. They just did it. I mean, what happened? They So what happened? I don't know yet. They just did
Remember what I mean they give them it they give it back. I don't know the league
The league never overturns the shit. No way
Do something before where they they did someone had to play like a last like they acknowledge things
Oh Shaq in situation with Shaq years ago acknowledge it, but they nothing they fucking can do. It's happened a few times. Do refs get penalized
for this? If they do, we don't find
out. They do, but we don't find out. We don't
know. Like some of them can't go like do playoff
games. They can't go to certain levels
of, that's why we see the same jack-offs
in the finals.
So,
on the subject of questionable fish
shedding, the last few minute report
came out for the Wolves Hornets game
There were ten missed
incorrect calls ten pin
missed or incorrect calls
To be the last in the last two minutes
One of them was that foul on cat at the guy five three times. That's three right there
He got fouled on a few of his drives
Does the last two-minute report do anything for you guys?
No.
Except piss you off.
Do your job right.
When you're doing the job.
In reality.
So, therefore, damn the last two minutes.
Tell me how many of these motherfuckers missed for the 48.
Give me the 48-minute report.
Give me the 48-minute report. Give me the 48-minute report.
Oh, I think I Googled that.
85.
A night average?
So there's someone that has a job in the league office
that goes to the games and sees how many mistakes
the refs made?
Yeah, they critiquing them, but they
ain't doing shit about it.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's, uh, yeah, it was, it was, it's 80, it's, it's 80.
So 85, probably about 85 missed calls from the rules that they make.
Now, think about it.
If there's 15 players, right, how many are active?
12?
15.
All 15 are active now?
Everybody active, if I'm not mistaken.
They can just be hurting.
Remember, 12 before you had to be on IR.
They can just be hurt.
So you got a total of 90. They could just be hurt.
So you got a total of 90 fouls that can be given, right?
So if they're missing 85 just fouls alone.
Oh, that's fouls.
That's just fouls.
Oh, I thought I'm talking about calls.
Fouls. So what ends up happening is they have to stay.
They always miss the travels.
They have to stay within.
Like, think about it.
If we call every foul that's supposed to be a foul, there's no games. Yeah.
So that means they have to stay within reason,
which is what, 35 to
50. Yeah. So they can
only really, in theory, call about
30-something
to 50 foul calls. Yeah, because then it's going to start
suspecting the game. Yeah, so think about how many
calls that we, so now when you're talking
about like, yeah, they flopping.
Yeah, because there's 85 calls that they should be calling but they can't so the
ones I do get foul mother fire I gotta pretend I got it what happened pinched
me I gotta sell this goddamn fucking 35 strong we do they keep that in mind do
you think the refs for sure oh yeah, yeah, I feel like what you have a close game. You should have a look at the shirt each quarter
I mean at halftime they going them of how many files we cause yeah, it was lopsided
This happens with cat they're like
You know, we'd be out there mother are they trying to even it up? Yeah
They trying to even it up? Yeah Do we trying to even it up?
They hate that shit, but then so they hate it, but then they don't even it up a lot of time
So like what how do you explain that they do the janky shit that we don't call fouls late absolutely
They make it look even because you'll wonder like what the fuck there's be six six seconds on the clock somebody drive to the basket and they'll call fire. You'd be like really
Now he won. Then you wonder right y'all wonder why I got a quarter to me that this bitch
I'm doing the last two minute report. It's just like little like I I'm, it's just little things. Like the cat one,
right?
You have to call that.
I'm,
because they're down,
right,
you're down and this does affect,
that's a foul.
Right,
then it was like,
oh,
Lonzo Ball drove,
I mean,
LaMelo Ball drove
and got fouled.
He got fouled too.
Fouled.
Motherfucker.
Shit.
It's the 50-50 ones that,
like if I got a,
like was that a foul or not, that's the one
you don't call.
Absolutely.
You don't call the one that we both go up and he hit the ball but he probably hit
the elbow at the end and felt like, okay, man.
But if it's a, okay, that's a foul, call it.
And then that's, and this is the fucked up part of the game, right?
You wonder why certain guys don't get calls.
They not calling calls for certain rookies.
You got to have a net.
People want like, you just tell the real, come on, man.
Don't do that to the young boy.
Don't do that to the young boy.
He got fucking hammered going to the basket.
You didn't blow that mug.
He's like, come on, dog.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuck them rookies up, boy.
Yeah, and you wonder why.
Certain guys that don't play a lot of minutes,
and they got to say them fucking calls for them beans.
Yep.
Right?
Dead-eye?
No.
Y'all think it's fucking dead-eye serious, man.
I feel, no, I have to.
I can't waste that on you, though.
Can't waste that on his, because I definitely,
this motherfucker shooting 15 tonight.
So shit, we.
You done drilled, your sorry ass done drilled three times, man.
I'm not giving you those fouls, man.
Shit, make it better.
And you over there, coach is like, yo, stop driving.
Bitch, I've been fouled three times.
That's me six points.
I should have six free throws, coach.
Now I got to sit on the bench because you don't want to blow your whistle.
So,
speaking of the Blazers, we got to talk
a little bit about DeAndre Aydin. Please do.
Offered some interesting comments to Mark Medina of Basketball Intelligence saying,
I got nothing to prove in this league.
I'm a max player, and I'll continue to be a max player.
You never want to knock another man for being confident in themselves,
but these comments come at a very interesting point in Aydin's career.
So after getting traded by the Suns this offseason,
Aydin is averaging a career-low 12.8 points per game.
He signed a four-year, $133 million deal with the Suns in the summer of 2022,
matching the Pacers' offer sheet when Aiden was a restricted free agent.
So last three games, he's averaging 7.7 points, 6.3 rebounds, one assist,
including a 5.7 rebound performance against the Thunder in 27 minutes on Tuesday.
But for his career, Aiden averages 16 and 10.
So we're going to play a little game of facts or cap.
DeAndre Aiden saying he's a max player.
Facts or cap?
Lexi, this is your arena.
You already know how I feel about it.
This is Lexi's arena.
I ain't saying no more about that man.
Can we?
Oh, I didn't hear.
What'd you have to say?
Nope.
I've not talked about that.
Why not?
What happened?
Can you bless us with a simple fact or a fact?
No, I talked about it right on this show.
I wasn't here.
During the playoffs.
I wasn't here.
So I'm going to pencil you in.
I'm going to pencil you in.
It went crazy on Twitter, and I don't want that to happen again.
Girl, this part of the show got game.
This let you to read it.
Hey, is anybody under no fantasy? Whoa, whoa, listen. This is Lexi Laredo. Hey. Is anybody under the dog fantasy?
Whoa, whoa.
Listen.
This is the wrong show to be trying to be everybody's god
damn friend, Lexi Bryant.
I felt very bad about that clip going crazy everywhere.
And?
Middle of playoffs.
Was part of the show.
Were you wrong?
No, I wasn't wrong.
OK.
All right.
No matter what they say, were you wrong?
I wasn't here.
I will summarize and say, you are humongous.
Why do you play the way that you play?
I will interpret that as a cap.
Yes.
Okay.
That's all I will say about him.
Gil, former namesake.
Facts.
Of Lexi's Arena.
He's a max player.
So he's a max player.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why do you feel that way?
Because that's what he signed.
No, it's levels.
It's levels.
Like you said, it's levels.
Remember, Max is...
Max ain't nothing.
Max is our generation's mid-level.
Yeah.
So he's a fucking mid-level player.
Everybody is the Max.
That was reworded to Max, and then the stars are super Max.
Yeah. Okay. So the stars are super Max. Yeah. Okay.
So the stars are super Max and then the mid-level guys now, they're called Max players
now.
Everybody gets a trophy.
Yeah, so yeah, he's Max.
I agree, yeah.
So you say Fax.
Yeah, Fax.
He's, uh-oh.
Yeah, he's Max.
He's it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you think that was his logic when he said that?
No. No.
No.
I just want to know.
Make sure of that.
No, he thought he was talking about, like, the jumbo shit.
You know what I mean?
But, okay.
He's D-League.
We have to take advantage of what he said.
You know, it's like the NBA, right?
That's Supermax, and then there's D-League.
So if he said, I'm a Supermax player, then would your fastball be done? Oh, he should be drug. Lee. So if he said I'm a super max player
Then with your family should be drug tested. Okay, if we if he said that okay should be drugged up. Yeah
You probably got his no I just we got the determining vote right here Nah, it ain't yeah, they signed him for it. Absolutely. Like Gil said he asked for it
They had to give him money to somebody so they gave it to him
right
That doesn't sound...
No, fuck off.
Yeah, there's this mentality.
Okay.
Teams don't get rid of people they can use.
Mm-hmm.
They just fucking don't.
For your ability, like, Lexi, to your size,
you're supposed to be, like,
you could be a Dominic Big in this league
if you gave a fuck.
Yeah.
He's a cat. Like, I don't, I'm not... Like a cat. Like, I'm not rolling with it.
Especially the way they're playing.
Yeah, they clip when your guard got to challenge you.
You turned the ball over and the audio was out there like, damn, you ain't go run back,
dog?
Mm-hmm.
Told me everything I need to know already.
I saw the way you played in the playoffs.
I saw the way you was not showing up for games
and shit like this.
Yeah, I saw that with my own two eyes.
And then for me to hear the audio of somebody
on your team challenge you,
like, you turned that bitch over, dog.
You ain't go running.
Like, so, nah, I don't...
Yeah, and then the most recent shit, you iced in in you don't want to go to the fucking game but like
You heard what I said, I got it up one of my high school teammates
Lives in Portland right now. He goes to every game. He said that motherfucking place was packed
Everybody on the team made it but you I see He goes to every game. He said that motherfucking place was packed. The gym was packed.
Everybody on the team made it but you.
I see.
Everybody on the team made it but you.
Cheerleaders, everybody.
Come on, bro.
The band. Nigga, if you got kids, your kids was there.
You have.
Come on, man.
They're in the family room and shit.
Everybody.
Your kids and shit in the family room eating them snacks and shit.
Everybody like, fuck DeAndre.
I just kicked in.
Shit, he ain't, he said he ain't going to make it, boss.
Like, come on, I just don't, like.
I shit.
Nah.
I don't even know what that means.
I'm not rolling, man.
I'm just.
And hold on, but he averaging what, DeAndre, 12?
12.8.
On that team?
On that team?
That's why they got rid of him in Phoenix.
I know why they got rid of him. You can go, homie. Yeah, I know why the fuck they got him. That's my point.8. On that team? On that team? That's why they got rid of him in Phoenix. I know why they got rid of him.
You can go, homie.
Yeah, I know why the fuck they got him.
That's my point, absolutely.
You can go.
And on this team, they need...
As much as I want to say bear down, I just can't.
You gave him a fax already.
That's a bear down in his own right.
That's all I'm trying to get to.
He's a cat.
On that team, you're supposed to be killing.
Didn't he get in trouble for pee-pee once before?
Didn't he have a messed up pee test?
I'm not sure.
You know, sometimes things find their way into our urine.
He had dirty urine.
Big man, sorry.
Sometimes things find their way into our pee-pee.
You know, nobody's doing nothing.
So, can you, DeAndre,
whatever he was trying to do, do that shit.
But he gave his money, so I'm not...
For me, this ain't got shit to do with money.
But facts with an asteriskisk cuz he need to figure it out
What figure what out to continue being too fucking late for that shit no it another max
Just either you know what I'm saying is max is that's that's that's mid-level now. Yeah, so you can keep getting a max
That's max. It's that's not the thing. Super max is what you are.
That's what that player is.
He's just like him.
It's half.
It's half.
He signed 134, take half, 70 something.
In our era, it's 70 something.
That's what he's worth.
All right, so when it comes to DeAndre Ayton saying he's a max player.
Facts.
All right, but now follow-up for you guys.
Is Ayton saying he has nothing to prove, facts or cap?
Are you texting him right now?
Yeah, I just.
Yep, yep, he was suspended.
25 games. 25 games. Hey, whatever you was trying, yep, he was suspended. 25 games.
25 games.
Hey, whatever you was trying to take, do it.
It might help your game.
Whatever it was, 25 games.
So obviously it looked like it was what the last one he got suspended for, 25 games, right?
Just get on this, all right?
Just say, hey, man, listen, you see my numbers?
Let me go ahead and do a little bit of this to keep up with the rest of the folks
Yeah, I feel like he's he's underachieving now
So he had but he has to care about that and I think people just are expecting more from him
And he's like kind of taking offense to that which I think is weird
So because people think you should be playing at a higher level
Because ain't saying he has nothing to prove in the opinion of Lexi's arena
Facts are kept that's facts. I mean he is who he is so you're right you ain't got nothing to prove nothing to prove
I want you to prove nothing. Okay, just be you can you feel like a man has nothing to flex I
Said before certain things come to mind and
spots and stripes is
Come to mind. So okay., like to Brandon's point.
Facts.
It is what it is, man.
Facts.
Can we talk about somebody else?
No, no, he's proving exactly what we think he is.
Trash.
What's next?
Trash.
Cut the braids.
Next time.
You got braids?
Yeah, he trying to be cool.
Next time.
You are the closest in my vicinity
Like you do have permission to move on to the next topic in your arena. Okay
Like you talk about somebody else
I'm gonna just tuck my mic in I feel bad. I feel bad for big shot, man. You gotta look at that nigga a day man
I know how big shot he is, dog. You got to put him in the game.
I know Chauncey, dog.
I know Chauncey.
Listen, Chauncey ain't with the Bulls.
Chauncey a winner.
Chauncey competitive as fuck.
You're right.
You're right.
Right?
Yeah.
And for Chauncey to have to pacify that big ass baby over there, man.
I know that shit is eating Chauncey inside.
With the coffee.
Chauncey and that bitch boiling daily.
He's sitting in his office with the door closed.
Like...
Scratching his...
Big Shot probably drinking right now.
He ain't never drunk a day in his life.
He probably in that bitch drinking now.
Man, if he got the bottle under the table...
I'm telling you, he probably, yo...
Going into the game like...
Yeah, like...
Yeah, I get it.
Yo, Big Shot probably...
Whoo!
Big Shot probably driving my man to drink, dog.
I'd be...
I wouldn't be surprised if I see Big Shot this summer and we had to body or in shots
I yeah, hey, what's what you drinking tonight?
Right. Yeah
Real shit, yo, I don't mean to put him out there fucking Aaron to follow it all
George Joe that man a drink. Aaron's my teammate at UCLA.
Confident.
Confident.
Kendrick Lamar used to want to be like him.
He was a nice dude, right?
Aaron,
great dude.
Hooper, great dude.
They gave him Ferg.
Hardest working dude I've ever seen.
Oh,
this nigga,
yo,
he did a photo shoot.
They gave him like clothes
for the photo shoot.
And you know,
they give you an option if you want to keep the shit after a photo shoot
So search it you keep but didn't even wore a couple collar shirt had nigga name on it and it was Ferg
So we started the deferred
It's fucked up in hoop circles it could be something that simple. Yeah, it's going to follow you forever. Man, you're like, man, it's going to follow you forever. So if I see him to this day, his name is Berg.
Berg.
But shout out Ernie LaFlaulo, high level.
Yeah, if you draw that man a drink, dog.
I was in Orlando doing something.
We down there, he came out, he like, I was like, yo, action.
I'm lying like we was in the club.
I saw him in the club.
He came to the table and retched for the bottle. And should have saw like what the fuck are you doing? Mm-hmm? You like Bryce long story?
Nick important drinking mix the shills cranberry. I was like damn
I'm a friend who walked into the league wasn't drinking and then they become they worse than us now serious
because it Whoo they worse than us now serious they were cuz it
It helps them come here, you know, like like if you just drunk for fun is cool, but when you cope drinking
Yeah, yeah, we around the ones who did like y'all I'm gonna cool off today. I'm not gonna even drink
I'm a behave. It's why we see a do squares a whole life of standing Oh, I kind of side-eyed you you were getting your shit cracking and then they blunts and fucking like yeah
What and try hard anymore?
Why live around like good dude?
I he came around us like we took him in like before you started drinking went out with us one night
Didn't drink and all that had a bad game. We told no you can't go out with us no more dog
Hey, we was protecting him like we, no, this ain't for you.
You stay in your room, dude.
We can play cards.
If we're in the hotel, we playing cards, cool.
We go outside these walls, no, because you just,
I see you need your 10 hours.
Yeah.
You think guys still today, like, play cards in the room
and all that, like, on the road?
They do.
Pokemon, probably.
Yeah.
Well, I know my son in the team, he that like on the road? They do. Pokemon probably. Well I know my
son in the team, he's a gambler. I know when we was in the league like team stuff was big.
Yeah absolutely. I know everybody make a lot more money now. Cause they don't got nothing
else but themselves. But how big was that those bonding moments for y'all just as teams?
Boo-ray on the plane. Oh them Boo-ray games. That's everything cause that's Texas Hold'em.
I like Texas Hold'em. That's who you identify with. Oh, them boo-ray games are out right now. That's everything, because that's- Texas Odom.
I like Texas Odom.
That's who you identify with.
They're going- most of the players is going through the same exact thing you're going
through.
Yeah.
Women problem, kids problem, friends problem, parents problem.
Did you bond with the people who had the most shit going on in their life like you?
Is that the most relatable?
No, just-
Because most of you-
Yeah, whoever most part.
Yeah.
Whoever usually start the card game, and the card games, like on a plane, it's kind of like,
all right, you're cutting up.
Like them your guys.
Yeah, those your guys.
Like, that's who you go eat with.
That's your crew.
So you got some guys that don't do shit when they get on the road.
They go in their fucking room, and you don't see them to shoot around the game.
Shoot around the game.
Shoot around the game.
Shoot around the game.
You don't even know y'all teammates.
Niggas on the first bus.
That's what I'm saying.
Niggas on the first bus.
They do that. Yeah.
I mean, I'm genuinely curious, Lexi, with you as well.
How did those friendships end up forming?
You got 12, 15 players on a team.
You walk into the locker room.
Who do you, I'm going to gravitate towards this person, whatever.
Now we kicking it.
Now we inseparable.
It's like minds, man.
Like, guys, if you've been around the league, certain guys, you,'s the NBA we're in different cities, but the NBA small bruh. Yeah
Small so, you you know whose
Guys like mine guys certain guys got same agents or guys have all these things so, you know, who's
But you got to be friends if it's the same agent, you know, you don't have to not at all
But it's got the same. I mean you don't have to. Not at all.
We got the same agent?
I mean, you're kind of going to keep just running tweets because the agent going
to come and both of y'all going to be like, hey, training in the summer.
Does the agent try to make y'all buddies?
And if you have a teammate that's the same agent, y'all might be in the city.
Y'all both go out to eat.
I got Sutton just going out to eat.
So you...
But yeah, just certain things, man.
You know, we was degenerates in Denver, so we all hung out together.
Yeah, my team was smaller. So just going to read this to you, then we'll move on to our next topic. degenerates in Denver so we all hung out together.
So, just gonna read this to you then we'll move on to our next topic. Players the chat says
are better than Aiden. This is according to the Lexi's Arena chat. Bill
Wennington, Will Perdue, Kendrick Perkins. Damn! That's coming from the chat. But let's move on to our next
facts or cap topic. So the does KD belong in the GOAT conversation has made his way to the bay.
Durant's former teammate, Draymond Green, weighed in on the topic during a recent episode of his podcast.
KD, he said, because I went to the Warriors.
He's speaking on the GOAT conversation.
Why is he not in the GOAT conversation?
I think KD is one of the greatest scorers we've ever seen.
The way KD scored a ball
is so effortless. He's never seen a bad shot. He's going to get you 31 points on 14 shots.
That is a normal KD night. Obviously, I'm not one that's going to be like, KD's championships
aren't real. Stop it. There's no championship that's not real. Steph didn't get the credit that Steph gets today until 2022
when he led this team
to a championship
and won the finals MVP.
When all else was failing,
Steph said, alright fellas, come on, let's go there.
Period. You gotta go do what
Steph did to get to that
conversation.
Okay, so Draymond saying KD needs to do what Steph did in 2022 to get to the goat
convo. Facts or cap? We'll start with you, Lexi. This is your arena. I'll say cap because I don't
think Steph did that conversation either. Not saying that I don't think what Steph did for
the game wasn't amazing or anything like that. But when I'm thinking about goats, I don't think what Steph did for the game wasn't amazing or anything like that. But when I'm thinking about GOATs,
like, I don't put Steph up there.
But, I mean, that doesn't take away from his abilities.
I mean, I think when we talk about scoring,
like, that's kind of how we talk about Steph.
Okay.
Brandon, I heard a cough come from your general direction.
Oh, I just...
I don't know if that was related to her comment saying that.
So changing the game of basketball,
you don't get mentioned in the GOAT conversation?
Like changing the game.
So every kid that plays the game now goes to the three-point line, right?
They used to dunk, want to be like Mike.
Now every kid is like wanting to have a jumper.
That doesn't, and it came, and it transformed into success so like that can't be mentioned as a goat
But is that what the goat debate is about because it's very transformative
What would LeBron's impact if you just said like Mike with the Duncan step with the shooting was LeBron's then?
LeBron's impact is
Something that we've never seen before and probably won't ever see from a guy from well for one guys can't come out of high school
No more 18 100 million come out of high school no more 18
100 million straight out of high school
Nike for sure. I think what you do off the court to makes makes you in a go conversation
So I think like when it comes to the goat you got Michael you got you got Michael you got LeBron you got Steph
That's it. There can be no third
Yeah, there's three well the candidates in 92 but it's the thing like they got a
finish yesterday so like they got a finish so like with the go conversations
like you know LeBron left the door open for a lot of people to take it to at the
same time like with with rings and didn't we just take 20 minutes ago that
that's not gonna happen yeah so what rings put you in a GOAT conversation
when the people with the most rings ain't even in the conversation?
Because it's how you do it.
I think they did it by getting 11.
No, I think the way in the conversation,
what the GOAT is like, I mean, to me it's like farewell.
Are you going to even get a farewell tour?
If you can't get a farewell tour in the NBA,
then you ain't in no GOAT.
Reggie Miller got one.
Huh?
Reggie Miller got one. Reggie Miller got a farewell tour? Life you can't get a farewell tour in the NBA, then you ain't in no goat. Reggie Miller got one. Huh? Reggie Miller got one.
Reggie Miller got
a farewell tour?
Life long pacer, Gil.
I saw Reggie Miller
the other day.
He wasn't...
No, I'm saying
he got a farewell tour,
so that...
But we shared a look.
Nobody knows that.
He wasn't rolling with your...
I know, because it don't matter.
He wasn't rolling
with your star bid,
but that's rare,
but I'm saying like...
But, you know, like...
No.
Like a farewell tour, that's a big... That'm like but but you know like no Like like a pro. That's a bit that means but we stop in basketball for like
Like
It's hard to get a fair return because most people yes most players don't know when they're done
Yes, most players don't know when that's this is be my last year. You know when you're done.
You announce it.
Reggie Miller was like, this is going to be my last year.
That's why he got the fair world tour.
Most players don't know when they're done.
They just...
Shaq didn't get a fair world tour
because he didn't know he was done.
I hear you, B.
I'm a
Steph, absolutely.
Give him credit where credit is due.
But when we...
This is the best basketball player conversation, right?
Right.
Steph, if we have a Mount Rushmore of basketball
at the importance of the game,
Steph is absolutely on that motherfucker.
Because he changed the game of basketball.
Single-handedly changed the game
the way people draft,
the way people coach,
the way people try to defend
the game of basketball.
He single-handedly had
a great deal in that.
So absolutely.
Yeah.
So let's get back a little bit
just to this Draymond saying KD needs
to do what Steph did
in 2022 to get
in the girl convo.
I think it's weird
that he brought Steph
into it because
I don't think KD is even,
when he's thinking
about ghosts,
I don't even think
he was thinking
about Steph.
And he was like,
I want to be
in that conversation.
But good,
you think that's
facts or cap?
Used to be your show, girl. We want to hear your opinion. It used to be your show, Gil.
We want to hear your opinion.
It used to be your show, Gil.
This is how I be feeling on this side of the couch.
It used to be your show, Gil.
Just quiet sometimes.
Can you just at least let us know what that looks like?
What am I answering?
What dumb question am I answering?
Draymond's saying KD needs Gil.
He needs to do what Steph does.
Don't disrespect me on Lexi's arena.
Is KD in the GOAT conversation? If he does what Steph did in 2020. Does he need to do what Steph does. Don't disrespect me on Lexi's arena. Is KD in the GOAT conversation?
If he does what Steph did in 2020.
Does he need to do what Steph did?
We're just talking about when they beat Boston.
Does he need to put the team
on his back like that and go
win a championship
in the GOAT conversation?
That's what they say.
You can have Stan good if you want.
Do you know we have motherfuckers out here that don't even put LeBron James in the Goat Debate?
Which is crazy.
Do you know how hard it is to get Kobe to talk in Goat Debate?
Those two.
Are those two better than those two?
As of right now.
If we just stop basketball, can the world say, played the game better than Kobe?
Several people in the Bay Area would make that argument.
Okay, I'm talking about the world.
I'm talking about the basketball.
But just basketball.
The world.
I hear you.
If he's not better than Kobe right now,
then we're going to say no,
he can't be in this conversation.
Can KD say he's better than Kobe right now
and LeBron James right now?
If the answer's no, then what are we talking about?
If the answer's yes, then yes, he's in the debate.
So I will mark that down as a cap.
I just want to...
Great answer on your former show.
But just don't fucking put people in the debate.
Just the debate.
Like, oh, yeah, Giannis is in the debate.
Oh, yeah.
You know, Smush fucking Parker's in the debate.
Well, fuck it, I'm in a debate
Right if we want to just start putting people in there
Am I going to get a vote?
Fuck no
Zero votes
You will get a vote next week
When it transforms back from Lex's arena to Gil's arena
And you start paying my checks again
It's a race man right
No matter how many people
Sit on that line To race this race, right?
We only give a fuck about right first place second place third place and no one really pays attention third place, right?
For the most part no one gives a fuck about second place. So it's man. I just want to know the criteria
Criterias of being the goat Like there's like like you know
So be one here yesterday, right and that's why we're but so I said yesterday, right
You can take Michael Jordan off of this fucking page. Okay, right
Mm-hmm. He's exempt from all further in my from all further goat conversation because you're not replacing him
Nope throughout until somebody else come along to do that can matter, anything he's
done nobody, he's not coming off the list.
So now we can start from there.
Okay.
Right?
Okay.
I'm just saying, let's just stop it.
Ken scoring title, you know.
Let's just stop it.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's stop the bullshit here, right?
He's off of...
Yeah, he's off of
Yeah, he's super max
This is just regular max
Now we start from there right you got being
Bruncate ease that like now we could now if you really want to start. Magic.
Okay, cool.
But because Mike is Mike.
You can throw whoever, y'all want the argument to fucking be from this day forward, right?
From yesterday.
I said this shit yesterday actually.
But you can leave Michael fucking Jeffrey Jordan out of it.
Because it doesn't matter what nobody says
Them stats and resume and who he is what he did for the game. What is
embedded forever in sports
It's what the fuck it is man, this man was the biggest thing on the planet pre-internet.
Pre-fucking internet.
This man was the biggest thing on the planet.
God.
Everybody's fighting for the Jesus role.
He God.
I'm not saying it, and I'm saying it.
Jesus and the disciples.
I hope Michael Jordan lived to be you know, long right? Um
Yo, if Mike died, you know, do you think that the NBA was just not playing the games? Fuck? Yeah. Yeah
Okay, so that's how big so that's how big you are to the game of basketball. I asked somebody that I said, yo
What would I put that when they knock on like, you know, so with the league just be like, yo, we taking the day off
Okay, we have a game. Yeah, we just going. Probably a week.
A week?
I'd say 23 days just out of respect.
Definitely.
I tried to tell somebody that.
That's a rank.
That might be.
Yeah, you got to need my money.
Listen, if you really want to know how big he is, can someone go, I don't know if we
can put it over right now, just go to the 75 introduction.
Yeah.
That just, that lets you know right there.
There's, you know, there's
75 of the greatest players
that ever played, right?
The ones that were still there, right?
Alive.
74 of them got cheered.
Or whoever was there, right?
When they said Michael Jordan last,
he out-Trumped
all of them combined.
All 74 combined?
They clapped just as loud as the fucking people in the stands.
The 74 they called before him clapped just as loud as the fucking people in the stands did.
You got all of them.
You got niggas with the same jacket.
Same jacket.
Woo!
They got that motherfucking power and shit.
Hey, hey.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's what...
That's the way heavyweight champions think about fucking Muhammad Ali.
No, for sure.
In Ohio!
It was in Ohio, right?
It was in Cleveland.
It was in Cleveland.
Cleveland, Ohio.
Cleveland.
Where LeBron was born.
Akron.
Akron.
Adjacent. I'm just saying.
There it is.
That's how important you are to the game.
But that's what I'm saying when we're talking about, that's why I said like, there's no,
and everyone just kept thinking I was saying something retarded.
Yeah.
There's no criteria.
Whatever criteria you're going to use, it wasn't used for God himself.
Right.
It wasn't used.
You know, 11 rings.
You need 11 rings. You need 10 rings. You need, It wasn't used. You know, 11 rings.
You need 11 rings.
You need 10 rings.
You need...
It wasn't...
The crown wasn't given off any criteria.
It was given off of...
Yeah, that's him.
That's him.
Hey, get it built.
And you got magic in them.
But he ain't winning shit.
He ain't winning?
Okay.
All right, let's put expansion teams in here. And you got magic them, but he ain't wish it He winning okay, uh
All right, let's put expansion teams in here. He raised some of those guys change the rules check off the two-hand hand check
All right go
So the criteria is there's no the run I'm saying is
They're using the criteria now as a standard but that wasn't a standard right 10
scoring titles and all that wasn't the standard so you take him off and say all right what is the
what is the real criteria for everyone now bill russell and all of them guys can now i got my 11
rings and i got this and that and you're gonna still trick that you're gonna trick it for whoever
you like anyway it It's pointless.
I think that might go.
I think that might be National Basketball Day, huh?
Everybody around the world.
Question for you.
Yesterday you showed us all the Michael Jordan practice gear that you had.
Would you raw dog anybody else's practice gear in NBA history?
Like say you found Bill Russell's practice gear.
What?
Bob Cousy.
Raw dog.
Raw dog. Hilarious. The practice shorts. You didn't watch them. I don't wear Kobe's. You found Bill Russell's practice gear
The practice sure is good you do watch our work Kobe's you won't wear Kobe's practice gear
Okay, you take one LeBron James orthotics you were the boys that curries or thought it you were steps or thought he's give me it Okay, she'd fuck around I get some someone at John Moran jumping ability to you. She crazy
DeAndre a new father DeAndre a new orthotics. Are you leaving? Are you not right? But what if they're I had those a thardex just look at my shit when I was on Memphis. I
Know how to be a disappoint. I probably had them shits when I was in the motherfucking shootout
That's the orthotics I had
when I was in that goddamn shootout.
When it comes to Draymond saying,
KD needs to do what Steph did in 2022
to get in the GOAT combo,
survey says...
Hey, I wanted to call hard.
Hey, man, look.
What shoes you got on?
These ain't the...
This must be the version
when you first got here, goddammit.
Stop. Stop. Give me the you first got here. Stop.
Stop.
Give me the ones you got now.
All right.
All right.
All right.
I got the 0 and 6s, goddammit.
That's the goddamn ones I had when you was 0 and 6.
Where's the ones you got now?
Send me them.
Them's the ones you was shooting in.
Them's the ones you started off the beginning of the season with.
Give me the Christmas ones and the ones moving forward.
Them January horns shit
I knew some was wrong. I knew I was it was in my arm. Do you were rocking over?
No, you didn't rock your own rockin. Oh
No, you're on your own shoes. You must rock your own shit you Gil
The hell you are age of 12 now was singing evolution, baby. baby. Man, no, man. I needed some new shit.
Didn't realize it was a November.
It was a November horror.
You ought to be a disappointment.
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All right, well, let's talk about Team USA.
USA Basketball released the 41 players
that will be trying to make the 12-man roster
for the 24 Olympics
in Paris this summer. Shout out Mark J.
Spears, the living legend,
for dropping a lot of names
on that list. As y'all know, I have bad vision.
Even bolded.
Hard to see. But,
you know, our expert team
of producers here at Lexi's Arena,
presented by Underdog Fantasy, Woof Woof.
Just keep that up.
No, we got full screens.
We're going to go alphabetical order, ten players at a time.
And I want y'all to tell me who is guaranteed to make the squad
and who will be watching from the crib.
So let's start with page one.
Let's be honest right here.
Jared Adler ain't got a fucking chance of making it. here jared adelaide got a fucking chance of making it there's my bane they got a fucking chance of making it
alex caruso ain't got a fucking chance of making it like the white goat no man
jaylen brunson might not make it devin booker and here we're gonna take devin booker and maybe jimmy
maybe so from this list Jalen Brown Jalen
Bruss I look at all over you get my Paulo cuz it's size and his skill ability like I just that he's USA
basketball and Devin Booker does nothing do you go D book okay Devin Booker one the book BAM out of
bio does nothing for you Paulo baby D book below and BAM thisBook, Paulo. Do y'all know who the rest of the list
is coming after this? Yeah, I'm just saying who
has a chance.
Who has a chance is what I'm saying.
Who has a chance?
Devin Booker.
Paulo. Jimmy Butler. Devin Booker.
So nobody else but Devin Booker.
You must say Devin Booker. I don't think
Paulo plays.
There's this position that there's LeBron plays, Kevin Durant plays.
That's another spot.
Like those guys play.
That's another spot.
Jason Tatum plays.
It's those three.
So realistically, no.
But just Devin Booker in your opinion.
And Bam.
Well, Bam potentially.
I think Paulo.
And Paulo.
I think Devin Booker and Bam because they need big I think we'll put
Paulo on maybe maybe okay
So give me the next page please. Yeah, please put him on the list? No, no, no. That ain't it. Them five for sure. On that side, them five for sure.
PG and Halliburton.
You know you picked up their last name, though.
They could have come up on the next page.
That's what I said.
I knew that next 10.
It was like they mixed it in.
They're trying to hide all the goopers in the middle.
PG and Halliburton on what?
We got all them five, so it's seven off of this page.
Okay, so you got what?
So you got seven off of this page?
Seven off of this page.
So who's going to be at the crib?
ATC.
You saying Aaron Gordon?
Aaron Gordon.
Aaron Gordon.
James Harden.
James Harden and Darren Fox.
Darren Fox.
Oh, damn.
I know.
My dear Aaron.
That's five.
So wait, hold on.
Let me get it.
So you got Steph, AD, KD.
Yeah, because the USA is all Nike.
Joel.
I'm going to have two Under Armour players.
They're not getting two?
Yeah, you know how Nike is.
They're not getting two. Embiid then I didn't to you know
Embed Hallenberg was a BGG and Hallenberg and be rock sketchers or my trip. They go that I think
Which is crazy, oh, yeah, you know get rid. Oh, okay. Hey boys going to I like Kyrie Irving and Jay. So Jan Jackson jr. Is he's a possibility as far as big what he do. I'm thinking about international basketball, bro
Not I'm thinking national so you put him on the maybe side over the Apollo
if you don't put we're gonna put him on the maybe side of
Maybe of the maybe yeah, then maybe of the first page
So from this was Kyrie Aaron LeBron James you're not giving you holiday no love for the defense no, man
Not your arena anymore care about that shit right now
You gotta have buckets and personality, so I like Kyrie Irving. He's not gonna make it
So So what happened PG don't play defense, huh? Who's that?
And B don't play defense Anthony Edwards don't play defense Anthony Davis don't play
We don't know only defense a player
Okay
Wait, hold do we pick from this list? Who the fuck?
Wait, hold on.
Go back.
Go back.
Walker Kessler?
Gil.
Damn, James.
Leave the man alone.
No, I'm just looking at it.
There are some names that I don't even know if they're the best player on they teams.
They are the best player on they teams, bro, and some of these guys are here.
Next, please.
Jesus Christ.
Green Hill just throwing some darts.
Green Hill just throwing some darts.
Next! All right, let's go to the next page, please. Tatum doing some dark rice. Very healthy thoughts about I was gonna next page, please
Tatum we got Kawhi Kawhi Leonard and
Jason Tatum previous paper was Kyrie Jaron Jackson
LeBron James, I mean they gotta have a white boy. No, we don't know. Yes, you do. No, we don't
They're not taking 15 brothers America. The rest of the years we did America give name one white boy on the uh, whatever John Stockton
Yeah, well, we need the Christian like Christmas
No, I'm talking about a 16 on a 96 team a 96 team and then Christian like Donna
No, who else is here? Jason Tatum and why?
Damn, yeah, that's it. We got one spot left. They ain't got too much stuff going on thing. We got one spot courtesy
We got one spot straight to next. Oh, that's it. That's it that completes so we got one. Do we all right now?
Hey, hey, hey, I don't know the bar the Rosen owner like like no the Zach Levine know what I'm saying is what I'm saying
Remember as of right now, we got Devin Booker
curry to No, what I'm saying is, what I'm saying, as of right now, we got Devin Booker, Curry 2,
Anthony Davis 3, Kevin Durant 4, Anthony Harris 5, Embiid 6, PG 7, Tyrese, we can put a question
mark if you want to, James.
James who?
LeBron.
Oh.
That's 9, Kawhi Leonard 10.
I thought you was going by first names.
Tatum 11. So we got one spot.
We got one spot for Kyrie, Jalen Brown, Jimmy Butler.
Palo.
Palo.
One spot.
Jaren Jackson.
Yeah, Jaren Jackson.
However y'all want to do that one spot.
Good luck.
Break the whole queue, throw it on the ground.
The problem with this is as the team
Just be honest. Just be honest with these boys. Hey, hey, hey, listen, we're just doing this shit for shits and giggles But all y'all ain't making it right. We only got one spot left and it's gonna be one two three those five guys
That's it. We just need to the rest of y'all so we can play five on five. Absolutely
What's a bunch of guys so guys will get hurt?
Yeah Yeah need to rest y'all so we can play 5-on-5. Absolutely. We need a bunch of guys so guys don't get hurt. Yeah, yeah. We need 5-on-5
so we can see what these guys is going to do.
At least let me know that before I come
so I don't come. So 29 of y'all coming for
cardio? Like Kyrie? I mean, Kyrie?
Yeah. USA Basketball? Yeah.
It's always that. Yeah, I'm going to say, just invite me.
If I'm some of the names on there, I got
to know I'm not making it. So why even come?
Because you, as part of the resume. I went to one
of them when I was in college. just brought that motherfucking be like shit
Fillers like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I knew who was gonna make it
Like me show up first the first two teams the first two teams they wasn't there was no tryout
Why don't you just go get young guys then they just pick it in I don't know. No, no, no, no
I'm saying to try out right like oh, yeah, like like why waste my time if I'm a
All the dudes is young
There's no point of time because no matter what you said shit all the most all them dudes is young you right
But what I'm saying is no matter what you do in this tryout
It ain't gonna get you on this team
That's what I'm saying you wasting my time if you go out there and you bustin LeBron James
It don't matter.
But, I mean, a lot of these guys... Oh, yeah. LeBron, you got to go.
I don't think they're going to...
Do you think they're honestly going to make LeBron go out here and try out for the...
No, absolutely not.
None of them.
Kevin Durant.
No, no.
Steph Curry.
There's 11 spots guaranteed.
Jason Tatum, no.
Like, they're not making these guys try.
Because Olympus is 2020...
It's this summer.
This summer.
And then it comes here in 2028 turnt up
That's where Apollo and all those
They go anywhere I'm scared.
They're staying anywhere.
They're going to stay anywhere out here.
Anywhere.
Got to get some property out here.
Absolutely.
They're going to want an Airbnb by 2028.
It will be turned up in 2028.
All the foreigners, they don't care where to stay.
It looks nice.
Don't know where they at.
Jalen Brown, Ingram, all those guys.
Where they at?
Manchester and La Brea.
Hey, the jungles.
Hey, you be seeing them at the bus stop near the jungles like, no, go. Go. Go that way. Get out of here. Ingram all those guys
That's what three guards so three your three guards would be what hurry Oh Norman Ian West
hurry Tyrese and what
And Kyrie yeah, those would be your three. Do you think they go put Kyrie on the team? Mm-hmm? I'm just thinking
USA basketball of the I mean he's USA he's been USA we sign with this controversy
That's all I'm just think don't know where your career. Oh, yeah, who did Kyrie us all?
I'm thinking and I'm trying to think outside the box basketball. Absolutely. Yes
Yeah, and to write I'm just thinking outside ball outside all that's right now. I don't even know there's gonna be hard
I'm just when it comes people got memory like elephant. That's not to be honest like
when people talk about like
your outside stuff
The fuck does that do anyway, it doesn't know
I mean, you but now You know what I mean?
This would be me.
You saying, oh yeah, we're scared for this.
Bitch, my jersey's number two in selling, so obviously none of that matters.
Yeah, but they don't want people...
And my shoe.
And my shoe.
But they don't want people boycotting and picking it outside.
Who?
The Olympic Village.
Who?
You never know the way people think, Gil.
If I got 20,000 people picking it outside, good job.'re doing good. No, that's not good. Yeah, it is
That's not good press for you. It is it's good press. Yeah, because you thumbs up. Everybody got something to say to you
Yeah, 20,000. I got 20,000 people cheering me the fuck. Oh, yeah, I'm walking out of bill
Yeah, you know, they're gonna buy the tickets. They don't going in dude. They're not going they're not going in
Yeah, the protest is not buying tickets. You you Gil. You know how stupid protesting is in reality?
I'm just letting you know what USA basketball...
I think Trump let everybody know how stupid it was.
He goes and does a podium.
2,000 people is cheering him on.
20,000 people are there to boo him.
He did exactly what I would do.
Hey, I had 22,000 people here to see me.
I had 22,000. I don't give a fuck how many people said Hey, I had 22,000 people here to see me at
22,000 I'm gonna fuck how many people said fuck you
22,000 USA basketball you view the world different. Yeah, you view the red hills trust her the USA don't USA
Committee don't want people outside the Olympic fucking village boycott
Because of something that one of the guys has posted had to say or was a part of his team.
Fuck his skill set. What does it mean, though?
Like, what? It's a world
thing, Gilbert. It ain't about you.
It ain't about your fucking views.
It ain't about theirs either. Yes, it is.
Because they picking a fucking team.
Wait a minute.
So you think they're not going to get views
if Copy's playing?
They don't want any bad press whatsoever when it comes to USA basketball or USA sports period, Olympics.
So why would you let Kobe put on a USA jersey?
It has nothing to do with political views or race or anything like that.
Did it? No.
Kyrie was getting crucified because of what he posted about. We're in a very sensitive time right now also.
Just hear me out.
Okay, okay, okay.
Right?
It's all...
It's the timing of it.
I'm pretty sure somebody had a problem with Kobe being on the limiter.
But it had nothing to do with the climate of the world that we live in today.
So because of that tweet is...
It might.
I ain't saying they are.
I know, but you said that...
I ain't saying they are, but it could be something that comes into question
if we wondering why Kyrie didn't make it.
It could be that.
It's what I'm saying.
It ain't got shit to do with the way you think about life, Gilbert.
Like, think about facts.
I think about facts.
These are facts here.
20,000 people are boycotting sold-out arena.
What the fuck do I care about?
They're not going in.
Says who?
Yeah.
They're going in every arena now, so what's the difference?
We're talking about the Olympics, Gil.
We're not talking about fucking the basketball arena downtown L.A.
So I'm going to be a fan.
This is the Olympics.
Hold on, hold on.
The world is here watching.
I'm going to be a fan of the Olympics.
The world is here watching.
And I'm not going to go in to see LeBron James, Kevin Durant, the rest of the world.
We're not talking about the fans of the Olympics, Gilbert.
We're not talking about, you're talking about the fans of the Olympics, Gilbert. One guy?
We're not talking about...
You're talking about the fans of the Olympics.
I'm talking about people that care about the shit that he posted.
Fuck the fans.
What I care about...
What I'm saying is if it doesn't...
Fuck the fans.
But the fans is what we care about.
The fans are going no matter what.
Okay, exactly.
I'm not talking about them.
So why do I care then?
We're not...
Because you're not the U.S.
You're not the USA committee Gilbert
But what I'm saying is as the USA if you was only USA committee you would have to change your fucking views in a way
You think but you're not you're sitting with me debate. Okay
Okay, so look this this was a real conversation. It's absolutely honestly
Women didn't like my views and you know Adidas are selling my shoes, right? I mean, yeah, okay, and they't like my views. And, you know, Adidas was selling my shoes.
Women?
Yeah.
Okay.
And they were like, yeah, you know, we're having pushback on the women.
And I just blatantly said it.
When the fuck did they start buying my shoes?
Okay, you can stand on that.
But it's my bottom line.
If it doesn't bottom your bottom line, Dave Chappelle proved it.
But you can stand on that. If it doesn't bottom your bottom line, Dave Chappelle proved it. But you can stand on that.
If it doesn't bottom your bottom line, your bottom line is your bottom line. If it doesn't affect your bottom line, why?
Because it's...
Everyone has a voice.
You can stand on that, Gil, but we're not talking about you. You're bringing this back to fucking you once again.
We're not talking about you.
You're bringing it about you. That's the reality.
No, I'm not. I'm talking about USA Basketball in a hypothetical situation here.
That's hypothetical. It's not real. Right? No, you brought up a real situation about USA basketball in a hypothetical situation hypothetical. It's not real right?
No, you brought up a real situation a real situation that was therefore your USA basketball
I'm talking about you. Yeah, he did each week something that the world had that people had a problem with
Yes, a big fucking problem with yes or no. Was it a problem Gil? Don't try to
Anything in reality, yes, the boy got suspended. He didn't play fucking basketball, so yes, he did.
Okay, he's playing now.
Does it affect him?
Now, people have long memories like an elephant
when it comes to certain things, is what I'm saying.
So there's 82 years he's been playing.
We're not talking about the...
You want to keep talking about the NBA, Gil.
There's those people...
We're talking about the world here.
Right.
Is the world going to be in Paris?
Yep.
Quite literally, yes. Yes, the world is going to be Paris? Yep. Quite literally, yes. Yes.
The world is going to be there, absolutely.
Okay, perfect. So if
I see him on the roster, I have a
chance to go or not. So if I
don't go, then I don't go. That's your choice.
We're not talking about you. I'm not going to go there.
You know how stupid you got to look to go there
to protest. Once again, you're talking
about you. I'm speaking facts.
People do it all the time
I live in wherever I live and I'm gonna get a good you bring it on boycott. Yes
Yes, nigga. We're more on that's your opinion, but no that's what all the time
That's a fat people do it all the time
So people that pick it up more room might think that people who buy a ticket to go watch someone like that play is also
a moron. So, yes.
So, you bring it in.
Once again, you're making this shit about you.
So, the problem is, in reality.
You're making it about you.
You don't know how to hate.
Hate means you just don't show the fuck up.
Hate does not mean you spend your time writing, I hate you on shirts, getting them printed, going traveling 10,000 miles to wave a fucking flag
They say I hate you hate you means I don't support it at all at all. They're not support
We're not no we're not supporting. We're talking about then how they're not supporting then how do we know they're not supporting?
We know they're boycotting if they don't they're not supporting the event give it a not going inside
They don't know why you're there to put the fuck are you talking about you? I just said why they are there to protest. The fuck are you talking about, Gil? I just said why they are there.
I just said why they are there.
To what?
Because they dislike something that somebody did or said or caused or whatever the fuck the issue is.
You put money in the city. You bought tickets. You bought this. You did that.
At the end of the day, the money is all that matters, man.
No, it's not. You making this shit about...
Tanner, man, If you boycott...
If I'm going to boycott an arena,
no one shows up to the arena.
Zero ticket sales.
That's a Gilbert Stoker process.
That is boycotting.
Boycotting doesn't mean 22,000 people show up.
It comes in different fashions.
It didn't say, I hate you.
That is not boycotting.
It comes in different fashions, Gilbert.
No, it doesn't.
It does not?
It comes in one fashion.
Boycotting comes in different fashions.
One fashion.
How?
Don't show up.
That's your opinion.
That is a real boycott.
When we do not vote inside the place.
And people pick it and protest and all that shit.
Do they not?
Yeah.
Because of different issues that they have a problem with.
Yes or not?
Yes or no?
And why does it work?
Yes or no?
Yes. They're voicing their fucking opinion because they have the right to. They have dis yes or not? Yes or no? And why does it work? Yes or no? Yes. They're voicing
their fucking opinion because they have the right
to. They have disliked something, yes or no?
Yes. Right?
Let you do some, so Michael
Vick and Dawgs and Peter,
why the fuck you think
Arthur Blank didn't have his ass
standing back at quarterback
for the Atlanta Falcons?
Huh?
Was it real? Okay. What's what real did he get another job?
When he got another job, we talked about Arthur Blake
If you're gonna boy, this was about it wasn't about the land of Falcons
Mm-hmm, he didn't want motherfuckers out here. They won't Peter outside of motherfucking Home Depot nigga cuz he owns fucking Home Depot
Okay, and then... Trust me.
Okay, and then when he got a job,
when they boycotted him...
We talking about Arthur Blank here.
I don't give a fuck.
That's one person.
Another person...
That's what we talking about.
Another person took a...
He went to that committee versus the Dalmatians.
Lexi's a reader.
Go ahead, Lexi.
Another person took a job and took a job on him.
Another person.
I didn't say that person.
Okay, but in reality...
I'm not talking about that person, Gil.
Okay, but...
I said Arthur Blank.
Now... The reason Arthur Blank now
The reason Arthur Blank didn't because he didn't want Peter didn't want and if he would and and guess what?
Wherever Michael Vick went guess what what happened more folks like that bitch with fucking signs
Boy pick it in and she knew that when he went to fill it. Yes. Yes, absolutely
Absolutely, right, but the that arena outside the pickets?
But they still fans that went to the game, Gil.
That's all?
Those are people that don't give a fuck about Michael Vick and Dawgs.
Okay, so how many people?
And there's people that's going to go see Kyrie Irving play if he makes the limit team
because they don't give a fuck what he posted.
But there are people that had a problem with it.
Okay, so Michael Blank, Michael Blank blank stats are not real because we don't like
Oh very Michael Vick. No, no, no the owner are through. We don't know but we don't know that was assumption that
Something was gonna happen. You don't know it happened Gil. No. Yes, it happened in Philly. He sold out everywhere
He went that's the true fact. Yeah. No the Philadelphia Eagles sold
I mean, that's a good to saying. Philadelphia Eagles are going to see Michael Vick, and his jersey was everywhere.
That is the real fact.
Those are Michael Vick fans, no matter what he did, no matter what he had to say.
Exactly.
And Kyrie Irving has the exact same thing, Gil.
And there are still people that have a problem.
If you flip, there's two sides of a coin, yes or no?
Yes.
There's two sides of a fucking coin.
There are people that love him.
There's people that love him.
I'm telling you, in the meeting, in the committee meeting,
when people are sitting down talking,
who are we going to have on the team?
Guaranteed.
The shit will come up.
It will come up, Gil.
And if he doesn't make the team,
damn what his skill set is,
I guarantee this was a conversation that was had.
We're talking about the world, dog.
It's a view.
Well, then we're going to see.
That we're going to have a bunch of people boycotting the USA. It's the thing, dog. It's a view. Well, then we're going to see. That we're going to have a bunch of people
boycotting the USA.
Whether you like it or not, whether you want
to keep interjecting your fucking self in it
or not is one thing.
Everything you said is hypothetical.
No, this is not hypothetical.
We're talking about who can make the team or not.
No, my point is, where's the result?
We're talking about who can make the team or not.
The results are, did the boy miss games because of something that he tweeted? Yes. Did people have a problem with it? Yes. Will it
come up in conversation when it's time? We don't know. All we know is he plays for Dallas and
nobody's boycotted. Because people ain't going to forget. Nobody's boycotted. Lexi, this is your
arena. What'd you have to say? Trust me. You want to keep talking about the NBA, Gilbert.
Keep talking about the NBA. Yours is fantasy though. There's no wellness in this're talking we're talking about you want to keep talking about the NBA Gilbert Keep talking about the NBA. I'm talking about this fantasy though
So we're not going to the next who so the USA is not going to the limit. Yes
So are the is USA going to be represented in the Olympics? Yes. I'm just curious here and you're saying the world is gonna boycott
Boy did I say the world motherfucker? No. You said the world. No, people.
The world is going to be there.
People in the world. People inside
the world have a problem with things, Gil.
We can boycott for anything.
So once again, you want to make this shit about
you. You want to keep making this shit about
you. It ain't about you.
We can boycott anything. It ain't about you.
You can boycott anything.
I'm not boycotting shit because it ain't my fucking personal.
What does it matter if you don't buy a ticket?
Is the arena sold out?
That's all it matters.
I'm not talking about me, Gilbert.
You want to keep putting yourself in it.
No, but it has nothing to do with me.
Yes, you do.
You keep saying, if I do this, if it's me, if it's...
You keep on talking about you.
Okay, if he goes, do you think no one's going to go to the arena?
Did I say that?
Did I say that?
Is the arena going to be sold out? Yes or no? Yes, and then
Why does anybody give a fuck cuz people do Gilbert? So that's the fucking fact of the matter
Don't get we don't you know, you make fucking friends. You don't right?
There's a two sides of the coin exactly
I love him that people don't like him and the people who don't like them don't show up before we care for they can show
Up and book pick it is what I'm saying and the USA don't want fucking bad
press.
Who cares?
All right, but let's-
Point blank period.
You want to keep interjecting yourself-
Who cares?
Because you want to make it about you.
All right, all right, all right.
Let's talk a little bit about how recently you brought up the subject.
So in a recent interview with ESPN, Irving had this to say about his time with the Mavs
and how he's grown as a person and as a Hooper.
He said, I had to be mature enough to say, I got to take accountability for my own actions.
I got to really walk and be the example
that I want to see in the world.
And that's just being a good person to a lot of people
and not being so hard to reach,
not being so isolated where people can misjudge
that as whatever it is.
Like, oh, he doesn't talk
or he's not really close with anybody.
I don't really know him that well.
So I feel like a lot of people misjudge me.
Dallas gave me a chance to just focus on the main thing,
which is being the best basketball player when I stepped foot here,
and then off the court still support me.
Yeah.
So do we feel like you talk about those discussions and what's going on?
Yeah.
That Kyrie, and to the point, Mavs games,
hasn't really been no issue with Kyrie.
Of course.
Could we not talk about it?
It's not about him being a
problematic person. It's about what has
happened in the past, and that's the biggest critique
the world has on the United States
is that we only
care about the United States
and ourselves. So I understand
what Gil's saying. Like, yeah, at the end of the day,
money is being made to the people. Yes, absolutely.
But it's not about
the United States at the Olympics. It's about
My point is we're talking about Michael Vick. I understand you're talking about Vick in that situation.
So when we pick a president to represent our country, it's about the United States of America.
Everybody's gonna grow. Everybody can grow.
But you're still gonna have people who hate Vick no matter what he does.
To this day. Yeah, for sure. To this day.
To this day.
That's apples and oranges. USA, but it's the... USA basketball and the president?
No.
Because the president is representing the...
I mean, are you...
United States of America?
No.
No, it is a big thing.
I thought we were supposed to be
the most selfish country in the world.
I just feel like we picked a nigga like...
Now we think about what the world...
Okay, I got it.
I just feel like we picked Trump,
but now we complain about what Trump...
What Kyrie tweeted.
Like, we picked Trump as America.
So how do you think that we're viewed as Americans to picking him if we don't fuck with him?
But we're worried about Kyrie hooping that in a USA game.
Because it didn't affect the numbers.
You live in different countries.
You played other places.
Yeah.
You know the way they think about fucking Americans.
Right.
But what I'm saying is... You played in, but... But what I'm saying is...
You play in other places.
It's not stopping from...
But it's still not stopping people from going to the USA
games and supporting us
and us doing our thing.
Putting Kyrie on that team ain't going to stop
USA basketball or anything.
Jesus Christ, dog.
Y'all missing the fucking point, man.
I mean, I guess I am.
I just feel like we picked Trump, so how are we mad about Kyrie?
We're not mad.
No, no, no.
We're not mad.
No, no, no.
I'm just saying the people.
I said I'm a Kyrie fan.
Listen, I've been getting slandered for saying I think Kyrie is the best basketball player on this team.
Listen, trust me.
Yes.
Motherfucker's been on my ass because I said this man is better than Luka.
Mm-hmm.
And that's just my personal opinion.
Luka's a bad motherfucker,
but my personal choice is Kyrie Irving, right?
Yeah.
I'm taking my personal thought process
and what I feel...
Out of it.
Out of this.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
Yeah.
I'm looking at broad picture here, right?
When they go to these fucking summits that ain't got nothing to do with sports, right?
That all these countries are at and all these issues come up worldwide, right?
And then they're talking private whatever the conversations are
There's a lot of motherfuckers in there that look at the u.s. Like y'all ain't shit
And not the country that we know that hate us.
Like, we know the country that got a problem with us.
But it's other people that's in the same room that think the same thing.
And just imagine the people that live in those countries that has access to the same news and the same stuff that we have.
So these countries saying we ain't shit, but they need us when it's time for help.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Yes.
Of course.
That's the way it goes.
But we're talking about sport here, right?
And on a smaller note, there are people that's going to show up in every game that USA Basketball
play, whether Kyrie is on the team or not.
It's going to be a sold-out game.
Yes.
1,000%. I'm with that. Yes. Whether he's on the team or not is going to be a sold-out game. Yes. 1,000%. I'm with that. Yes. Whether he's on the
team or not, because it's USA basketball, there are a lot of beloved players on that team,
him included. Him included. And at the same time, while they in that motherfucker cheering us on
and all that, there could be people outside that's disliking it. Right?
And those two things can exist at the same fucking time.
And what I'm saying is,
the USA as a whole, as a committee,
as the people that vote on this shit,
they have to keep that in mind.
And we're not the only country, probably,
that's going to deal with something like that. They have other players.
Trust me, that's making decisions deal with something like that. They have other players. Trust me. Other countries are probably having the same thing.
That's making decisions on athletes that have controversial things going on within their country that they have to make these decisions on.
Because they don't need the bad press around them.
Because the world is watching.
And the world is there.
And the world is there.
Yeah, but does Kyrie deserve to be punished for something that he's grown and moved on?
No, I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying you aren't saying that.
Jesus Christ.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just asking you.
I said if Kyrie is there or not, but we all grow as people.
His words mean a lot to people.
He's showing people that all of those things can exist, and people still have a problem with him.
Right, right, right, right.
The fuck?
No, no, no.
And people on the committee can have a problem with him.
I ain't saying they are, but they fucking could.
Yeah, for sure.
They could be of different ethnicity, different race, different religious views,
different color of him and they still, whatever his words are,
that shit going one way or the other.
Because they have a preconceived
notion already. He gave them
ammunition where they not, I'm not
trying to, nothing else he has to say.
Nothing else Kyrie say, and they can be on that
committee. That's all I'm saying, dog.
It's all hypothetical still.
These are people, man.
But if that's the case of why he can't make it, that's wacky. No, but that's what I'm saying, it's all hypothetical still these are people man, but if that but if that's the case of why he can't make it that's wacky
No, but it's all
because my like
Right, so I hear you. I made I made a statement about Jews, right? I do here
That's what the problem is. He didn't make a statement just posted something
It was somebody else words that people had right yeah in America we have Jews here, right?
Right what a lot of Jewish people live in America a lot of Jewish people live in America
Correct
So how many games have been played so far you want to keep fucking talking about the NBA?
I just want to know I'm just I'm just doing he make he want to keep talking about yours does not happen
You won't so you have no you have no sense. you want to keep talking about but you have no stat on it i'm just i don't care about the nba i'm not talking about the nba here i'm all i'm
going to stack i don't care about what we're not talking about the nba if we're on the committee
we're not talking about reality on stats we're not talking about the nba here we're not talking
we're not talking about the nba here there's jews here who was upset and they have not played
one game yet.
That's all I have.
We're not talking about the NBA here.
That's all I have.
We're not talking about the NBA here.
You're a hypothetical.
We're not talking about the NBA here.
It don't matter.
You're a hypothetical.
But we're not talking about the NBA here.
What is your information for them to make-
We're not talking about the NBA.
Okay.
Because there's been-
The NBA players are building a team.
We're not talking about the NBA here.
Get it, Lex.
There's an NBA.
We're not talking about the NBA here.
You can keep saying it because we're not.
You can keep saying it. Because we're not. What is your fact? Lex is a reader. The fact is we're not talking about the NBA here. We're not talking about the NBA. You can keep saying it because we're not. You can keep saying it because we're not.
What is your fact? The fact is
we're not talking about the NBA here.
The fact is it's a community.
It's a community. They only live outside
of the USA. They're here.
We're not talking about the NBA here.
Oh, oh, oh.
We're not talking about the NBA here.
Because the people here do not give a fuck.
We're not talking about the NBA here.
What's the logic? The logic is We're not talking about the NBA. What's the logic?
We're not so we're not cuz we're not talking about logic is not about the NBA
The logic is we're not talking about the NBA. The man is moving right now in real time
We're the logic is that we're not talking about the NBA. I'm talking about the limp. Let's just play basketball
How about this is it gonna play basketball Olympics? Yeah, he's playing basketball right now. Fuck right in the a he's playing basketball right now
There's Jewish people here in every state. I'm not talking about boycott. I'm talking about the world
We're not talking about the United States
Okay, but there's you want to keep energy what you want to what what your narrative wanted to be?
You're not gonna change what the fuck I'm saying, but you have no stat on it. You must be oh
We won't know until we get up stats here
Who's bringing up that we have to why bringing up stats? We have to. Why? We're making a committee.
Who?
Stat man, stat man.
Who's bringing up stats here?
It's logics.
The logic is we're not talking about the NBA here.
If I say it, if we're on the committee and we're like, okay, he's been 30-something games.
He's been booed at all 30-something.
He's been boycotted at all 30-something.
This is probably not a player we want on our team.
We can do that.
Right?
Because we have the research that says it.
Once again, we're not talking about the NBA here. it That's look once again. We're not talking about reason
We're not talking about the NBA that it's talking about the United States. We're not talking about the what is Paris culture
Not talking about a dress. It is talked about you
They have they like I can say yeah, I this makes more sense
If
Dre if they don't want Draymond on there because he choked Rudy, that makes more sense.
Oh, we're going to Paris.
He might get booed.
This might be some bad publicity.
That makes sense because it's real.
You saying he's not going to make it because of the world?
What Kyrie put out there is real as well, Gil.
The fuck are you talking about?
The people here got upset.
You don't know what the other people around the world had to say Gil
Cuz you fucking live here and you sit in your fucking house all day. I
Can you don't know what other people around the world had to think and say you're saying like there's no do you there's no Jewish people
In America that has it that felt some type of way, but they had something to say
Okay, still do how many how many outside of America how many people got upset? We don't know you don't know
But that's the point and do you know the people that got upset here how many countries got upset how many people got upset here?
How many countries got many people got upset here a lot?
That's not a lot got upset around world to make how do we know?
How do you know a lot got upset here because we heard him they writing there there
So if you lived other places guess what you would have heard the motherfuckers that was upset, but you don't know that
So you heard everybody so everybody here that was upset what I'm saying is so everybody that was here that was upset you heard
So everybody in United States that was upset you heard me great and I'll let you talk for like right minutes
I'll let you talk for 20 minutes, right? All I'm saying is we don't want back and forth. You know, we didn't talk. No, we did not just say
We went back and forth. There was no punch. You gonna let anybody just fucking talk like it's a real
Both of them talking to you too. They get real spicy
It's getting way too spicy right now. We don't live outside of the United States
So we can't say what they did or what they're gonna do. That is fantasy. We do not know what they're going to do.
We're just guessing.
Right.
What we can do.
What he's saying is that they're going to have to do their due diligence
before they make that decision.
If they decide that nothing's going to happen,
then he's just going to make a team.
But what are they going to go after?
We have one country that we know exactly what happened.
Right now, we have Jews here that were upset then.
He's playing in games now. They're not
doing anything. And once
again, you want to keep talking about
the NBA.
Yeah, you want to keep talking about the NBA
in the United States of America. If the Olympics
were in LA this year, then your
point would be very valid. That's the only point we have
right now. We don't know what the world's
going to do because we're not there yet
Do your argument for something that no I'm arguing or something that it's a real thing that could possibly a part of come possibly again
You can't use possibly and say it's a fair
I possibly can win the next gills arena shootout
Do you want to know i can possibly win it
that don't mean it's a fucking fact as of right now we know i only made 12 keep talking about
the nba we only know i made 12 that's all we know right now 12 possibly yeah do you want to know
what is the fact that i have some sad news report uh after nearly 70 years in the game
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Hoopers, you know, we didn't to be on the WNBA swimsuit edition
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I got to give my shout out to Slim Magazine.
So for the older people on the couch,
what does Sports Illustrated mean to our generation?
S.I., S.I. Kids.
It was a big deal back in our heyday.
S.I. Kids school.
Shit.
It don't mean nothing.
They ain't put me on the cover for my decision to go overseas.
We talked about that, Brynn. You already know they were plotting against you.
I'm just saying. I felt like that was a big... We both should have been on the cover. my decision to go overseas. We talked about that, Bray. You already know they were plotting against you. I'm just saying.
See, we both should have been on the cover.
I felt like that was a big decision.
No swimsuit?
Did they bring you to the player pool for the swimsuit?
I don't know how that decision...
But to me, culture-wise, I mean, we care about Slam Magazine.
Like, Slam Magazine is the culture for basketball.
Well, I got a dope-ass Sports Illustrated cover, so fuck the song.
Oh shit, my bad, OG.
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Your rookie year?
Second second or third year. That's fire. And my gray Nets jersey. Yeah, I got it. No nipples shown either pulled but very very very very.
Slam gave me a spread. Oh, that's the tattoo one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah got dope. Yeah, slam sports illustrated. I got a
Sports illustrated cover. Hell no. Did you never make Sports Illustrated?
Like, Sports Illustrated, Stan Glass.
Have you ever seen a Sports Illustrated?
Absolutely.
I don't ever.
Absolutely.
Man, I never read this.
I never went through the Sports Illustrated.
We just looked at the cover.
Just looked at the cover.
Ooh, this is a nice cover.
So, more generation for the hoops community,
Sports Illustrated or Slam Magazine?
Ooh.
I mean, well, I mean, I'm going to say Slam Magazine is just basketball.
Sports Illustrated was like everybody in sports is going to buy that magazine.
So if you was on the cover of that, I think it was just different.
Just because it was worldwide.
Slam is just strictly- Just basketball.
Slam is strictly just basketball.
Like if you're a hooper, that's like everybody's ultimate goal to get on the cover of Slam.
Felt more for the culture.
Obviously, Sports Illustrated throwing a lot of different sports at the wall,
illustrating a lot of different sports, as the name suggests.
Where Slam, we're just talking about hoops.
What's it say?
It's like the GQ.
Okay.
It's like the GQ of sports.
If you got on cover of that, it's like, who the fuck is that?
Slam more the source in that wavelength. The source? No, it's like oh who the hell is like who the fuck is that yeah like slam more the source in that wavelength source no no it's just more like the source it was just great magazine
you know great award show especially in 1995 yeah slam is for the culture yeah slam is doing their
30th uh i think i think slam is having their 30th anniversary this year with their magazine. I think they're doing their 30th
most influential players ever.
So do you feel like you should be in that top 30?
I don't know. We'll see when that list comes.
If you are not in that top 30, is it going to be...
It's beef. It's going to be a problem.
It's beef. It's going to be a problem if I'm
not on that list. And Ken, you talked about your
Sports Illustrated cover. What was the process behind
that and what did you think first time you saw that
magazine stands?
I'm not yeah my agent didn't want me to do it at all. Oh
It was against it. Why cuz I was out there knocking people out
Wholeheartedly
Everybody that muffled like nope. Nope. Nope. No, uh-uh team where everybody like no, uh-uh to be on the cover
But just this.
They didn't want me showing my tattoo.
It was a different time.
I will say that.
They didn't want me showing it.
Because of what it said.
It was the 90s.
I know, that's so crazy.
Said it was my bad ass yellow boy.
So period.
They didn't want me to, because the way I was menaced,
and my mother was like, come on, man. This want people to do what you want the world to see?
I'm like, absolutely.
Thought process behind that tattoo, the Badass Yellow Boy tattoo?
Growing up in the South.
When did you decide to get that tattoo?
No, growing up in the South, if you light-skinned, they call you yellow.
And then there was a song, UNLV from New Orleans.
They was beefing with Mystical. And they had a song that's called Badass Yella Boy.
It resonated?
Yeah, wholeheartedly.
Do you feel now, looking back, it was before its time, because of what's accepted now?
Like, being able to, you know, just be, like, you was being you, right?
And they didn't want you, like... Yeah, yeah, I wasn able to, you know, just be like, you was being you, right. And they
didn't want you like, yeah, I wasn't changing, bro. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I'm saying like,
that's why I like me and Chuck, like, that's why we, so he was doing his way and we were
like, of course he is him. Like, but I was pretty much in the same, like, I'm not changed. I'm gonna
be me no matter what. I'm gonna play the game the, I'm gonna play it. I'm gonna be me out the floor. I'm gonna be me on the floor in this
Yeah, so it was yeah, and I was it but everybody was against it
Everybody in the room, but we did it. We did it at the next practice facility to write
That's the iron at the practice facility and they everybody my foot like now you can't do this
No, that's not so I said yeah we've doing you know your mind's processing attorney what you
love yeah I know how you work you may not say it right now but I already know
how your body's turning yeah I know my favorite magazine it was uh it was I
think it was Shaq holding a cobia okay there we go Shaq holding Kobe up. Okay, I thought he was going to say something crazy.
Shaq holding Kobe up, and it was like a crystal ball, and it had like a...
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It had Phil Jackson as a wizard, something like that.
Yeah, for sure.
It just looked cool.
It was just different.
That was Sports Illustrated, right?
That was.
Yeah.
Is that your favorite, what's your favorite, What's our favorite basketball magazine cover outside of yourself?
Like what was what like what was one magazine you was like, oh that shit tough like damn
Like that's hard like damn like I got to get on the cover because it like, you know, like, you know as we are as hoopers i'll say the one i mean i have
other favorites but i think the most recent one that i personally enjoyed it didn't make me be
like all day i need to get on the cover but it was something that i just appreciated was the
recent one they did with the lsu girls and they had them in their uniforms and their hair was done
and their makeup was done they had the crowns like I just thought that was fire like accepting that
Finally accepting that type of look in the women's basketball space. I just thought that was that baller. Yeah, well, this is like you have a
Sports for me. There's a swimsuit edition. Yes, Lexi. You mentioned they don't fire Lexi Which one? Which one? Which one? Which one? Which one? The WNBA one? Uh-huh. They had one in some bathing suits and stuff.
I mean, what's the thing?
I don't know what they were trying to prove.
I wasn't even asked about that.
I don't know what they were trying to prove there.
We liked it.
We liked it.
We liked it.
What's your favorite swimsuit edition?
Obviously, those were very heavy back in the day.
Who?
Sports Illustrated swimsuit edition.
I wasn't into that.
Tyra Banks.
The Tyra Banks 97. I was Brian King. Beyonce 2000. the tire banks. I was blind King Beyonce
Night publication as well
You know, you know the ones with the paper over you got to rip it out to get hit you know
Hey go in here go get that one for me
Did you guys ever order any of the jewelry in the back of the magazines?
No, we ordered the girls in the middle of the magazines.
Hey, Joe, we old, right?
So we ordered a fucking Jet magazine beauty of the week.
Yes.
The little small boy.
That was a long one.
So I had a few dudes that around the way used to cut them out,
and they had them posted in their room.
They had them by each year.
Jet was legendary. A little bitty magazine. Absolutely. A little bitty, but great articles. Way to journalism. Posted a room like man by each
With great articles this way the journalism is your bag horny-ass little boys go straight to what yeah
Yeah, I remember remember that covers that cover shoot with a slam magazine with a Sebastian Telfair and LeBron James Yeah in high school. I think yeah that changed the game for me
Like that was that one that, like...
Because that was the first time...
You know, I was eighth grade.
I think that was the first time
I seen, like, high school players,
like, in that element.
Tattoos, jury chains, like,
that was, like, that was, like,
the ultimate, like, turnaround piece for me.
What's that, O.J. Mayo in the Phantom?
Bentley.
Bentley?
Yeah, with the SC, with the SC.
With the SC, that was...
Go, Bruins.
That was different. There's another spirit today in Lex spirit a day Lexus arena glad we brought it all back
Just so y'all know we may get into base whatever on this show, but soon as the cameras turn on everybody we cool
No, we cool. Oh, yeah, he got it. See you had to teach me how to turn on my goddamn egg
I'm a man with his wife go make the
Ignore my whistle Lexi
You probably want to stop somewhere and get your air horn
Megaphone or air horn that might be suitable and it wasn't even that was all play right very experience I didn't hear that motherfucker to be honest with you
Very turned up moment. I was
Gil which very turned up moment. I was trying, but y'all are,
Gil.
For all those questions,
my media ain't as good.
When Gil's turned up like that,
I know that we're not stopping until he feels like it.
Y'all straight up ignored it.
The show formerly known
as Gil's Arena
or Lexi's Arena.
Trust me.
They hear us.
Oh, no, he got one.
We hear him.
We hear you think it's just not.
I used to be offended by it,
but as we've grown,
I've worked with Gil for almost three years now.
Oh, Joe was looking at me.
I was looking at him.
What do you want me to do?
I tried the whistle.
Give him a nudge.
That was my attempt.
Motherfucker.
Smoke it.
If you oversmoke it, then at some point they'll just have to stop.
Because they'll start coughing.
Y'all get a whole room.
Just hold that motherfucker down.
We definitely will stop then.
Like, all right.
The ladies don't mind. Shut up. Shut up. The whole room holy motherfucker that we definitely will stop being like
But produce one of biggest cultural influence slam or SI
culture
You want to as a kid as a part as a as a
As a sports as a athlete as an athlete yet you want to be put on Sports Illustrated though as an athlete
But as a Hooper's yes slam so we have to chat 52% says slam 48% That's our oh, that's our kids used to really move. Let's say wait so a quick question
Did foot okay? So slam was basketball fam is strictly was strictly basketball. Strictly basketball. What was...
So did football have one?
They might.
It was like...
That's what I said.
If you was mentioned on Sports Illustrated,
you was mentioned as the...
Like the next one.
Did I make up golfers?
It wasn't in property.
But we wouldn't have paid attention to it, though.
We would have seen it in a magazine.
We would have seen it in a...
Yeah, but we would.
But that's what I said.
I feel like our culture... College joints. Yeah, the yeah, yeah, yeah, but we would but that's what I says are I feel like our culture joints
Yeah, the college one, but I feel like basketball
That's why I said basketball is like the magazine
For as basketball is so different because like we actually had a magazine for as best like football and you can market us
But that's but that's what I think. I mean we handsome so that's why there's
That was always the beef of football do you want to date somebody with a helmet on the biggest one?
That was always the beef of football do like 145 of them on a college campus 15 basketball players
Our face is very recognizable the helmets numbers
My way on front listen if she won a day the nigga with a helmet on good luck. Okay, that says a lot
Okay, hide his face battles overworked. See me every day baby battles overworked like the Crusades
We haven't even see half these niggas a level battles overworked
my name is
Some from Alabama the fuck out of here lying in the sand pick aside basketball football
But then you had the dual sports that our Lewis, the dual sport who'll come over,
but when they were on the basketball side, they were...
I just hate when football players be in a club with us.
Shirts off and shit. Like, man, calm down.
Move or go!
This is true.
Sit down!
You just bottle pop them.
Just order a whole bunch of bottles.
And leave them niggas alone.
Like a whole line.
I'm firm believing, man. leave them niggas alone like a whole whole line Yeah, but firm believe in them lead them niggas. No for sure. No, I'm just saying let me fight to the death
They fight with helmets on are you seeing punching dudes?
They be heading but each other like
Niggas are wearing helmets the but I always wonder as a Hooper that dynamic where you're in the city
Obviously a lot of NFL NBA crossover cities at the club. Listen kind I always wonder, as a Hooper, that dynamic where you're in the city. Obviously, a lot of NFL, NBA crossover cities at the club.
Listen.
What kind of issues?
One thing about a Hooper, we are not liked.
Hoopers are not liked in any room.
Work scarcity.
Because we're the ones that's going to always come in and get the best. Work scarcity.
Work desert.
But if it's a work desert.
I don't care what rapper.
I don't care what sports athlete is in there.
Once Hoopers start coming in there, good luck.
Well, I... Well... Depends on what type of rapper. Depends on what coming in there. Good luck. Well, I
Don't what type of rapper
My walk in I was like, oh damn is like that
Nigga, too. I thought I was popping. Yeah
Yeah, but walking that mother I was like, yeah
Yeah, but that's please fuck you go. I don't know okay mark
You talk to that one who you know, what the fuck you going? Oh, no, okay my own
We the ones bro
No, no, I'm just saying truck if you can but that that's a rare breed Yeah, you got him Jay. Yeah, you know, this is Drake. I was an ad
Yeah, like this was oh when he was yeah, yeah 50 back here listen then then that's you I was like, oh damn
Oh, look at the covers
Look at the covers. Look at the covers. Look at y'all. Hey Gil, I ain't gonna front.
That tap was hard, but I was eight.
Hey, hey, hey Gil, I played you the next day after I did this photo shoot too, by the way.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah.
And I bust your ass.
Oh, really?
No, you didn't.
Oh.
Thanks, so now I need to get a cover.
I think we played okay against each other.
Like, we wasn't, you know.
Yo, where the slam cover at?
Where's my cover of Gap 2?
I ain't gonna front.
I ain't gonna front.
That's where it's at.. Bad boy is fucking tough.
They did not want me to do that shit.
Brandon, S-Curl, what kind of hairdo?
I had my, I had my.
Hero to hero.
I had my.
He's a psychopath.
That's what it's illustrated for real, for real.
But, K, I want you to imagine us a little bit younger than you having to see that magazine
and then, you know, fear seeing you in the street.
I want to know how many people got the tattoo. People thought seeing you in the street I wanna know how many people got the tattoo
People thought I was Somalian back then
How many people got the tattoo after?
They thought I was from like Toronto
You definitely look like you're from the Isles
You definitely look like you're from the Isles
Because I have my little beads
You definitely look like the Isles
You definitely look bohemian
They was like you Somalian?
Somalian or from the Caribbean
Absolutely you definitely look Caribbean Or what? They thought I was gonna do some Catherine Phillips Bohemian
It doesn't do some captain Philip or what that was robbing the boat or what?
Yeah, my slim covered under captain now
All right, so let's move on you look like you've been a girl up there
What we could have been a girl up there. Damn. I just said, they put a little wig on, put a little stick in their mouth. Damn.
Who about?
Juana Man?
Who is that up there?
That's Brandy.
Who is that up there?
That's Brandy.
That's Brandy.
That was the one that looked like the actor from Juana Man.
So, first question from underdog user Speffy.
Said, with the trade deadline approaching.
I got to start looking so damn good.
I'm about to, alright, I'm going to get a tat
right here on top of my forehead.
She only like,
Oh, period!
I can't go to jail.
Like you, I'm paying.
Put me away by myself.
Away.
I don't want to see shit.
I talk to these walls. I read.
Well, Martin these shit. Don't see shit. I talked to these wall. I read Well Martin station I know they gonna try to fuck
Nigga station. I'm away my hand my whistle is on the floor. Whistle, this is still Lexi's Arena,
presented by Underdog Fantasy.
Threw my damn whistle.
Gil broke the expensive whistle.
No expensive spirit on this beautiful set for Lexi's Arena.
First question from the chat from Underdog user Speffy,
with the trade deadline approaching,
what team could KJ Martin go to to show what he's got?
Hey, I know you probably can't answer that question.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
You know.
Fake us.
Okay, what?
Fake us.
Yeah, I just want to see him get some playing time.
Okay.
Yeah.
Because he deserves it to be honest.
Fine young gentleman.
Yeah, but you don't do what you've done in this league for the last three years, man. And get in a situation where there's no minutes.
You started more than halfway
through the year last year no starts he averaged 15 as a starter and played 30 minutes a night
right 29 30 minutes a night average 15 as 12 he averaged 12 throughout the year but 15 as a starter
i don't want to call nobody out but but as a starter, Tobias Harris got paid, at the time,
like 180 million or some shit.
He was after 15.
That's all I'm saying.
The kid can fucking play the game of basketball, and I just want to see him play.
That's all.
I have a hard time tuning the games the games my man ain't in.
Not become bitter.
Not having... and not having nothing to say. So I just want to give him an opportunity to play somewhere.
Okay.
Lakers, Gil, you said?
Bring him to the Lakers.
Wouldn't I mind it?
Shit, Milwaukee.
Shit, we need some athleticism.
You wish Doc Rivers on you?
I don't wish Doc Rivers.
I just wish success and opportunity.
That's what it is.
Doc, we support you.
Bring KJ.
We support your coaching.
I just want to get on that float out.
So next question.
He went to Bobby.
He was like, damn, he went to Doc.
But shit, fuck it, man.
So next question from underdog user Rovo Suave.
Who's a former NBA WMA player that would have been MVP level if they never got injured?
I'm thinking WNBA.
Would have been MVP if they would have never got hurt.
Rovo Suave said, mine is B-Roy.
Oh, we're talking about like that type of...
Brandon Roy.
There's not many W players that...
Who would have been MVP if they never got hurt?
Yeah.
Brandon Roy.
You said Brandon Roy?
You said Brandon Roy too?
Yep, I like Brandon Roy.
I played Brandon Roy my rookie year.
He was cooking us.
Brandon Roy, friend of the program.
Did he ever win an MVP?
T-Mac?
Did he ever win an MVP?
He never won an MVP, right?
He didn't win an MVP.
T-Mac.
T-Mac.
I was, I would go with Mac.
Penny.
Anthony.
What a great name.
All three of them dudes, man.
Grant, Penny, and Mac.
Like on the WNBA side?
There's not really many that have had career ending like that,
but I would say an injury played player that probably would have won multiple MVPs
would probably be like Elena Deledon.
What's so funny is, let me just be honest,
you could have said anyone, we wouldn't know. Gil. No, I'm just be honest. You could have said anyone we wouldn't know yeah
Cynthia Smith would've been like, oh, that's crazy. Let me let me at least say a name that like y'all might recognize
So y'all you know who Elena Della Donna's no I do. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying if you would have named anybody would have been like
Lex you do not have to switch it up on Lexi's arena. You do not have to cater
To the former show namesay. We do know we do know when I say my list
I don't every episode you obscure name. No, we do know every episode Gil moves a little bit further away from the
Movie like by design
You know who else up hmm, the way he came out.
I feel like Blake Griffin had a chance.
The way he came out.
When did he get hurt?
Shit.
His first rookie year?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Damn, good point.
Then he had that one for a minute.
But I just feel like he, I mean, it could have.
He just had a lot of momentum for it.
His first rookie year? Yeah, you're right. He had a lot of momentum. minute. But I just feel like he could have. He just had all the momentum for it. His first rookie year.
Yeah, you're right.
He had a lot of momentum.
He had the potential.
What did he end up hurting?
His pinky toe?
I don't know.
I'm just talking.
I don't know.
I'm just talking shit.
He broke, didn't it hit someone in his leg?
Yeah, it was an easy, I don't think it was.
He shot my pinky toe.
Yeah, it wasn't no ACL or nothing, but it was.
So, Dele Don won MVP 2015, 2019.
You said even more than that.
Yeah.
For sure.
So, Chaz saying Yao, Grant Hill.
Yao.
Yao.
Yao.
Damn.
I forgot about that.
Yao's the only player I've ever been around that moved like the president.
Yao.
When I was in China.
He was the only person I...
But Yao came...
Yao really came in and this motherfucker hurt, though.
Well, yeah.
I mean, yeah. They when when I was in Shanghai. They said what they used to make him do
Like he was he had feet problem back there because they didn't know how to pray didn't know how to practice
It is that they didn't know how to practice so you just be like I just run they'll just be running for four hours Although their practices is like the shit. I mean you have shit that we've seen cuz they start them early run
They have to write things in their contracts I can only practice this amount of hours now now
Yeah, probably now when people go over the weed out. You gotta weed it out You know you know you know it's bad when y'all has fly here to have his child in Houston, so she's American
Yeah, that's y'all have no control over my child. Yeah, I'm not gonna run her to death
Yeah, cuz I think you get taxed. I mean kids you have
And then like and it's not the government owns your kids over there.
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah, no.
That's crazy.
It is crazy.
So before we go, let's take a look at the Kmart slam cover, which our producer diligently.
Oh, my bad.
I was just doing this shit.
Ooh.
Oh, yeah.
The rim, rim, rim, rim, rim.
Well, I guess I got to get a slam cover now.
Shit.
Yo, I can make that happen.
Yeah, that was back to back.
That was coming in that motherfucking end.
Legendary.
Well, another...
I think people be thinking I'm a bum, dog.
No.
People that don't know this younger generation of motherfuckers,
they think I was sorry as shit.
It's okay, Kane.
People think I was a bum until I beat y'all
in the fucking mid-range shooting contest.
They're young, Kane.
It's not their fault.
Yeah, no, they're our own fault for what they own, though.
But, yeah, it is tough.
Slam Magazine need to give us the first podcast basketball magazine cover shoot.
Hell, yeah.
That would be fire.
Hell, yeah.
I'm going to talk to Apple.
Hey, Slam.
Hey, what up, man?
My kids was Sports Illustrated, too, right?
That was Sports Illustrated. Yeah, right? That was Sports Illustrated.
Yeah, it's Sports.
That's crazy.
Y'all forgot.
All right.
Y'all ain't watching.
Y'all better hope he ain't watching.
Y'all better, yeah.
You better hope he's asleep right now with the work.
All right, Paulo.
All right, all y'all.
All right, back there.
Rashad did have at least one Sports Illustrated cover.
Bear.
Yeah, put his Sports Illustrated.
Put his Sports Illustrated.
We do not want to hear that motherfucker tomorrow.
College basketball preview 2004-05.
Oh, if that counts.
Don't stop.
Solo, but solo on the magazine. Solo.
College basketball, Jordan?
No, the sports literature. College basketball.
Yeah, Rashad.
Okay.
Hey, yo, he's got a problem that y'all ain't put that up there.
I'm letting you know that right now.
He's here tomorrow. We're going to run it tomorrow when he's on the show. Are we getting the whole crew here tomorrow?
Did you work that out?
Okay under dogs say they don't never know what the fuck going on in your head
They just want to make sure everybody know the fans. There you go
It's blurry
We will have it cleared up our
Our producer team works very diligently to get this shit on.
Damn, damn.
Shia, they got you bling in the mother.
You know what he's going to put in tomorrow?
He's going to have that on a t-shirt.
Hey, damn.
Watch.
Watch.
You're on the way to the mall right now.
Burn that nigga out, man.
We need some Gilbrick t-shirts.
Gilbrick t-shirts, Westchester, some Aaron McCann.
A lot of McCann's products. We're still waiting on them. He's on the way to the person right now. Those video games, West shirts, some Aaron McCann, a lot of McCann's products we're still waiting on.
Video games, all that dog.
But this has been another day.
Do you still have any of them?
I know, right? That shit, like when you look at it now, like, nigga, I was on a video.
Absolutely.
Yeah, March Madness, PlayStation joint.
Yeah, you'd be like, you'd just be sitting there like, yeah, this is...
Nigga, I got a Sprite machine at the house.
Wait, at the house you live in now? Yeah, I got a Sprite machine at the house.
Wait, at the house you live in now?
Yeah, I got a Sprite machine.
Wow.
Yeah.
I never had one of those.
Me neither.
Well, me on, yeah, yeah.
And you just... No, with me on, not just a Sprite machine.
Yeah.
With me on the couch.
Is it still functional, though?
Is there still Sprite in there?
It was a quarter, probably a quarter, 50 cent back then, right?
Yeah, yeah, it was then.
It's free now.
Yeah, it's free now.
I was just friends. It was a back there. Yeah, it was that ice free now. Yes, really
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