Gil's Arena - Luka Doncic CRUSHING Wemby FIRES UP Gil's Arena

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

Luka Doncic CRUSHING Victor Wembanyama & The San Antonio Spurs FIRES UP Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to another masterpiece from Slovenian Jesus as Luka powered the Los Angeles Lakers to their 5th straight win over Wemby & the Spurs and break down Luka's incredible start to his first full season in purple & gold. They also analyze another stout game for Deandre Ayton as he is proving to be one of the most impactful free agent signings of the NBA season and discuss how JJ Redick will implement LeBron James into this red hot Laker lineup as the King has finally been cleared to play after recoving from sciatica, before reacting to Victor Wembanyama struggles after his unworldly start to the season, sparking a debate on if the NBA has figured out how to stop the Alien. Next, they react to the Dallas Mavericks falling all the way to the bottom of the Western Conference and continue their debate over Cooper Flagg running point in his first NBA Season before breaking down Jaylen Brown's comments on NBA officiating while leaving another skid mark as his hairline continues to fail him. Finally, they react to Russell Westbrook making history as the greatest statistical point guard in NBA History and discuss his comments on the Denver Nuggets choosing to let him walk in free agency before breaking down Kevin Durant's hostile back and forth with Draymond Green debating if offense or defense wins championships in the NFL. PLEASE give us a Like and Subscribe!! Today's Crew : Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Swaggy P & Brandon Jennings Gil's Arena premieres every Wednesday & Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Sign up for Underdog HERE with promo code GIL and play $5 to get $100 in bonus funds or bonus entries https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Use our code for 10% off your next SeatGeek order*: https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/ARENA10 Sponsored by SeatGeek. *Restrictions apply. Max $20 discount SUBSCRIBE:    / @thearena0   Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos!   / discord   Must be 18+ (19+ in AL, NE; 19+ in CO for some games; 21+ in AZ & MA) and present in a state where Underdog Fantasy operates. Terms apply. Concerned with your play? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.ncpgambling.org; NY: Call the 24/7 HOPEline at 1-877-8-HOPENY or Text HOPENY (467369) 2 Min Countdown 0:00:00 Show Start 0:02:00 Luka & The Lakers CRUSH The Spurs 0:07:22 Luka Better Than Shai? 0:32:30 The NBA Has Figured Out How To Stop Wemby 0:45:38 Cooper Flagg & Mavs PLUMMET In The Standings 1:29:51 Jaylen Brown Calls Out The NBA Refs 1:46:01 Jaylen Leaves Another Skid Mark 2:02:15 Russell Westbrook Is The Best Statistical PG Ever 2:04:54 MostlyFans 2:16:13 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Here's what's cracking in Gills Arena today. Luca came through with another big scoring night as the Lakers slowed down wimby and the Spurs to get their fifth straight. when is the league figuring out how to stop the alien? Cooper Flagg came through with another 20-point game, but the Mavs dropped to the bottom of the Western Conference is Dallas cooked.

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with us on YouTube, we've got audio versions available on Apple or Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So we're going to get right to it. The Lakers and Spurs met in LA Wednesday night for the first time this season with San Antonio looking to bounce back from their first loss at the Sons after their franchise record 5-0 start.

Lakers were riding a four-game winning streak and had Luca back in the lineup after Missing Monday's win over the Blazers with injury management. Austin Reeves, however, was out for his second straight game while dealing with a groin injury. So Luca entered as the only player in NBA history to average 40 plus points, 10 plus rebounds,

and 5 plus assists in his first four games to start a season. And before the game, Wimby had high praise for the man they know at Slovenian Jesus. Luca is one of the hardest players to scout because he understands and masters the game more than almost everybody else. So it's always a good challenge. I don't think I don't think I don't want against him. One of the hardest players to scout because he has mastered the game.

Wimby is correct. He's 0 and 4 against Luca in his NBA career. And Luca and the Lakers say, here go one more L for you, big fella. Let's take a look at the highlights. Five points the other night. So Wimby was in foul trouble throughout the game and the Lakers defense. and the Lakers defense was suffocating. His alien was limited to 19 points of 5 and 14 shooting.

He did go 9 for 11 from the line with 8 rebounds in a block. Luca had an off shooting night but still stuffed the stat sheet. 35 points, 13 assists, 9 rebounds, 5 steals and 2 blocks. Oh, no, Brony, no. He should have knew better. I don't know why he got in the way right there. Unfortunate. That's LeBron James, son. There you go, keep it high.

But Luca, 9 for 27 from the field. Knocked down 13 of his 17 free throw attempts. DeAndre Aden came through with another big game as well, added 22 points and 10 rebounds. And Marcus Mart got another start, had 17, 5, and 5. So the Spurs had seven players scoring double figures, including Stefan Castle, 16 points and eight dimes, and Jeremy Sohan, 16 off the bench in his first game of the season.

But it was these Lakers, ladies and gentlemen. They were trailing in the fourth quarter. Went on a little run, started doing what they do. God bless his supporting cast as well. You see it, that's Luca Magic right here. So like I mentioned, Wimby was in foul trouble. Most of the game, he picked up his sixth foul with a minute 39 remaining in the game, fouling off for just the third time in his career, second time this season

while the Lakers into the game on a 21-10 run. Oh, you see it. One of his few buckets in the game. We're keeping to be. But Luca came up big as always. So like I mentioned, Wimby fouled out on this play right here. That out Rui stepping up, taking the charge. So after Marcus Mart was whistle for an inbound violation with the 1.2 seconds remaining,

Spurs got the ball back. Jake from Allstate filed Julian Champany, sent in the line for two free throws. He missed the first, intentionally missed the same. second the Lakers held on to get the win god is good all the time look and now has 200 points in his first five games this season tied for third most all-time behind will chamberlain who scored no first huh first in in david stern's NBA in the modern version so when everybody came together okay so he's won okay but in the collective national basketball association no first First of all, he's the second human, because obviously,

Wilt is up there twice, you know what I mean? So, you know, put some respect on it. There was no disrespect on the good man, yeah. Oh, 40 in the first board game? Just 200 points in the first, how many games? First five, you know, just a light, 40. A little light, just a light one. A little light one.

Not terribly complicated, but with the win, the Lakers moved in second place in the Western Conference, and just a game behind the defending champion Thunder, who blew a 22-point lead in a loss of the Blazers in Portland, the purple and gold, seven and two start is the best since the 2019-20 season when they went on to win the hardest chip in NBA history. So gentlemen, question for you. I know y'all watch the game. What are the biggest takeaways from the Lakers win over the Spurs? I think I said it yesterday. It's just their

willingness to win and their chemistry. I mean, even when LeBron was out and Luca was out, Austin Reeves stepped up and other players stepped up for them. So whatever JJ's over there doing and And, you know, whatever that chemistry is, just keep it going because it's working. And then when Luca come back, he's never missing a step. So, yeah, man, it's going to be exciting times in L.A. this year again. Honestly, I get a little emotional thinking about it. Two champions? Oh, man.

Dodgers already got the first one. But, Swag, what do you think about the Lakers so far this season getting their fifth straight win? Oh, man, the chemistry, for sure. I feel, I kind of feel bad for Pops, man, Brian, right now. having to come in and why they're winning you got to figure it out because them guys is yelling they're looking good having fun aiding's top five center in the league right now that's not sanitized not too many centers like that but he's top five for sure not the bad over here in the row and you see

how you can bring the ball down going straight up you know he's picking and popping not picking him without the pop you know what I think What I said last time? That's what I said, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Balling. Yeah, yeah. Lucas.

Pop without the pick. Yeah, pop without the pick. Yeah, pop without the pick. I just blame it on your homelessness. My mind isn't here right. No, I know. It's the only good thing that's going on for me. The Lakers are bringing joy to your life.

Yeah. We keep winning. We have a parade. It won't feel like I'm homeless because I'd be out there at the parade, you know, just having fun. You know, bring a champ back to LA. God is good. Let's move over this side of the couch shot.

Biggest takeaway from the Lakers win over the Spurs. I see you rocking the Luka Dantra, Jersey. Is that what this is? It looks so nice. It doesn't look nice. Had to point it out twice. Don't say Lakers on it, though. It's a Rial.

This is back when he was slimmed slow. I don't know, man. You know, the Lakers, they always start off hot. and they end up cold. I mean, we've seen some struggles to start seasons in recent years. Games like this being tricked off in recent times.

Almost tricked off last night we're keeping it above. No, they play hard in the early stages. I think, you know, Lucas Slim now, but he's just looking like he's just going to blow up. He's moving like the calories

are going up. Each move. Going up. I'm watching. the calories go up and he go down to complaining to the reps to slow down the burn. I get it. He complained every damn, damn, damn time down. I'm like, goddamn, Luca, you get proud every time.

But his guys are showing up, Marcus Mark's showing up, Rui's showing up, Aiton showing up, everybody's showing up, you know. Gay praised to Brownie yesterday, showing up. I think Brownie wanted to be on a golf course, to be honest. You think Brownie wants to be on the golfers? He's a better golfer than he is. You know what I'm saying? He'd be golfing.

He's got boy golfing. He's got boy golf swing and looking nice. And, you know, father's son, he can go on to do the Tiger Woods and Charlie shit. You know what I've seen the clip, right? I know y'all seen Brownie Swain. And that boy Swing looked nice. Look a little bit better than that jumper.

You said calories are going up? Calories going up. Like with him getting bigger? Yeah, you're going to see it? I see 40. 12 yet we see that's always good

for the start we see five games so far right now he's gonna start stressing out and they played a good game plan at the end of the day

the game plan work the game plan work he might be the first person average 40 well I don't remember

the whip days in the modern NBA is good point on Adam Davis turned now Adam Silver's 39 to 40 easily I just like

the way he plays his pace reminds me a bird speed him up you can't change this game man remind me

I play a bird, man. I play at my pace. 40. Luca right now averaging 40 points per game, 11 rebounds, 9 assists. The first five games. It looks like he's playing at the Drew League, but in the NBA. Yes. Oh, it is the Drew League. The NBA is the Drew League to him. Seriously. But the

assists come because they're making shots too, though. Rurie, Aiden. Have we seen Luca do this before? Nah. Yeah. First time. What, average 40? But the 40, 10, to 5. Just the regular Luca stuff.

Just regular Luke, he's being regular Luca's just the first time, right? The first player to average 40, 10, and 5. I mean, but the fact that he's like consistent with it, though, like, I mean, the fact, okay, yeah, we've seen it, but you're just still doing it? Yeah. 40, 12, and 9?

Like, who's doing it? We've seen Russell Westwood do it. We've seen Russell Russelberg average 40, 12, and 9? I mean, 30. 10 and 10. Not 40. Not 40, 12. I mean, yeah, yeah.

First boss is somebody doing one game, of course. Oh, but this is every game he played. Yeah, like every time he stepped on the court is 40. Every time he step on the court is 40. Yeah, we don't see that. You don't see that? Do you all see you over here, pondering? I mean, seen that since another person in the Laker Jersey or Chicago.

I mean, I think James Hardin average 40 in a month maybe or something like that, like, but 40? First five games of the season? Mm-hmm. Luca appeared in five. Every 44 a month. It's not going to go crazy. All right, okay. So when we started hot, and then they had to figure out what to do with that little team.

They had to figure, hey, we got a game plan against him. But when that's hard, it's hard to game plan against Luca. Yeah, but when has anybody ever game plan for Luca and stop Luca? Like when has anybody, since Lucas? You said Boston? Yeah. So, Gil, I can't help you know that you're in deep pondering. You have the phone out.

Boston, when it counts. That's what I'm saying. Like right now it's cool, but ain't down. Let's the string this thing out. Let's get them, get them calories back up. You know what I'm saying? Let's watch the defense dwindle a little bit.

Put some pressure on it. Let's figure what happens. Lakers currently, a little bit, yeah, yeah. Lakers currently seven and two. A game behind the Thunder with the top spot. So nine games in, he's averaging, so 10 games in, he's averaging 40.

Played in five of those games. Five, though. Okay, okay. With a finger sprained at lower, left leg. He took, he took a week off. You're right. He took a week off. Injury management.

He took a week off. He took a week off. That makes a lot. Now, I'm taking the week off. But if he keep that up, he could average 40. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah.

Just get to the 65 game. MVP. Go ahead. Go ahead, Gil. What? I thought we had. I thought we established that this was going to happen. You know, when everybody was calling him fat,

and he was averaging 28, 8, and 8 being fat. You know how everybody was making fun of him being fat? And he was averaging 28 and 8. He was averaging 28 and 8 as a fat man, and everybody thought that was like he's being stopped as a fat man. 28 and 8. Y'all, y'all seem to forget that when he was fat and y'all was calling them fat against Anthony D. Edwards and they lost, but he averaged 33, 9, and 8, and it was calling him fat. And I'm like, damn, if Anthony Edwards is skinny and in shape and he's getting outplayed by a fat man, what happens when this fat man decides to get in shape?

What is the stats that he has as this fat man is in? What is the in-shape man have right now? Slim down Luke. The slim down, not the fat one. What does the slim down one have? So Slim Slovenian Jesus averaging 40 points, 11 rebounds, 9.2 assists in five games this season. And we're trying to figure out why. He averaging one again?

Because I'm confused. Because the number sounds like crazy. Again? Crazy to some. But 40 points, 11 rebounds, 9.2 assists. Okay. So. 50% from the fifth.

in case you care. So there's nothing about a overweight, out-of-shaped man, averaging 28-and-8, nothing in the brain of a basketball player said, man, when he gets in shape, this shit is about to be crazy. This shit about to be insane when he actually gets in shape. So he used a moment in time when he got injured and missed those games and got out of shape and then came back out of shape and was doing what he was doing.

So the fact that he went into the summer, got his body healthy, we've seen what he did in, or we heard, because we didn't watch those games. But we heard what he did in Fiba. I watched a cable. He got busy, right? Did he not get busy? He got busy. So what we're seeing is what we thought was going to happen. We can see this, right?

And Wimby said something that was something that I was saying. And it took me a 12-hour video of Kyrie. when I was just watching this highlight of him, watching his movement. I had him, Steph Curry, up there, and I'm just watching their highlights. And I said, God damn, these, they mastered their craft. Kyrie, what he's great at, it's, he mastered it.

And when I said, I said, Luca looks like he's mastered his skill. The things he's doing out there, the pump fakes, the movement, and these little, the human behavior of reaction. He's mastered the craft. So the fact that Wimby can see it already shows you his intelligence, that he's looking at this game and he's realizing he is unscoutable.

Because there's things that he does that as a basketball player, your reaction timing, right? You fake the ball, you go down there, he goes up. He throws a ball out there, you flick, he goes under your arm. He's doing things that it takes 30, 40. You're talking about Kobe in his latest years, MJ, you know, when he got into the 90s, right? You're talking about, you know, you're looking at J. Kid, right? You're talking about Magic Johnson, the things that they can see that's happening, right?

The John stock, he's mastered at 23, 24, 25 years old, and it's fucking scary. So when would you say LeBron James and those guys like, Braun, Kobe, Jordan, when did they master? you know these crafts like what like was it the first three with jordan or was it the next three or was it like the first two well you have definitely well we definitely all say the way to understanding you can say like later 80s but 90s for sure that game that game looked too easy for him brawn oh my god uh shit just just the game itself was really like you know we played against been to playoffs all the time. Right, right.

And we've thrown everything at him. He understood basketball at very high level, early. Like 19, 20, 21, he understood the game of basketball. Like, it's fullest really early. Would you say Magic Johnson's probably the earliest? Yeah. Like, if I go back, you can see Magic understood basketball. Like Magic, like the European understands the game.

That's why they can use your, like, no matter how. fast they are or slow whatever they can use your momentum like when you start doing that right like okay he's coming really fast let me stop let me move let me like when you start seeing players do that and they'll start using the the defense against them you can be like okay they're mastering the human behavior of basketball you know and same thing with shay like you can see them bumps like he's using like when you when you can just adopt foul that easy they're understanding that's where brunson comes in that Those are masters of, you know, yes.

He's a master at scoring. Okay, okay. That is a master, he's a master class at a step back. To the point where they were so scared of his step back, they started playing behind him on defense. Like, give him the lane. We don't want him to do this step back because he mastered something. A lot of guys didn't master a lot of things in the 90s.

They just had this overall game. There was only a few people that had master. These kids are taking their one ability and they're mastering it early. Curry master shooting, like it's, you know what I mean, hitting that shut off, he, he understands me, beam, bing. So what would you say for cold then? Cove? Cove? He work.

Oh, wait. He ain't about to say nothing for you. I think about the... Oh yeah, it took you this long to say something? With cold? He just asked me the question. No, just, you know, I mean, when you saw Colbe, like when you say, all right, he... Is he a master, it's like...

Like, it's a... Yeah, like, it's a rap. Yeah, like, it's a rap. Probably second championship, that second championship run. You can see he was mastering his. Well, the one-on-one skill, it seemed like he already had that shit. Okay. He already had the mastering of the one-on-one.

Yeah. But when he started mastering the game itself and understanding going in that second championship, so he was already 21 maybe. Okay. Okay, so, yeah. Yeah, he didn't have, like, he didn't, like, the stuff he was forcing, he was just doing it. Because the pain the lane was packed but you know just guarding him himself he was already a master at you know getting a shot off

What is Luca a master at again? Deception the ability to get shots from himself and for other people Do you feel like Luca hasn't mastered the game yet? I mean, you got the Luca jersey of vintage. I just wanted to know. I just tried to master of deception. He's deceiving that he's fat. He's deceiving.

Deceiving that he's slow, but he not. Carrying the weight well. Carrying the weight well. 4011 and 9. Five steals last night. Two block, he burnt. Like his, his, his, his, his, his, skill set is not like Larry Bird, like Little Burke master.

Stop, Nick. What's on with Larry Bird? I'm just saying, man. I just said, they play, like, they kind of play the same. To make you move, they make you think I'm moving there so you can move there so I can move this way, like, I'm going to go here to go here to, like, master of things. Luca Magic. Dr. Strange.

You're out there doing it, ain't he? Come over here. You go over there, ain't. Oh, see, I guess so. But sure, what, in all seriousness, then. All right. All seriousness then. All right.

Who is somebody that mastered the game, and what is master in the game to you means? I said master in the skill. Oh, master their skill. That's why I was asking, like, what is he specifically mastered? Is it, like, you say, Karee mastered? What? Steph? Okay, Steph, okay.

And student. Okay. So it's like, show me that. what he's mastered so because if James Harden mastered the step back right mm-hmm we took that away from him we took the masterful skill from him by getting behind him right and then why didn't he master the floater but he mastered he did he didn't have before that right so then I mastered all right so I mastered the all right so I masterful it was crazy

well hold on so I mastered secondary yeah he had to go to the floater because they was taking away his thing but I I mastered the foul baiting and now I mastered the step back. Fowel drawing. I don't like... Fowdrawing. But he does baiting people to file, so I understand. I'm just trying to get a more better understanding of what the masters are, you know?

Do you feel like when Wimby said Luka hard to scout because Wimby feels like he's matched the game? Do you agree with Wimby's assessment that Lucas masters the game? Luka like body positions. Lucas... You know how to get you off balance. Who? Luca. Oh, deception.

Yeah. Like he's a fucking Avenger. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. I can get you up. I got you going that way. Woo.

Like you're a musician. Ha ha ha ha ha. This way. You said musician. What did they say? What is his name? Come on. What did they say?

Luca magic. They also call him Slovenian Jesus or slim Slovenian Jesus now based on this. They call it Luca magic because it looks like he's out there. Okay, create. How he played his own pace? Okay. He's a pace player.

OK. Beat him up. I mean, I look at the defenses that gave him trouble. He still averaged his averages, you know. But I don't think it's about points when it comes to him. Because he's like KED. He's like certain guys who are going to get their shit. It's going to be how it looks when they win or lose.

So I've never been one to just praise a guy just for getting a bunch of points and shit. So it's like it's normal for him. But I see the other side, like, I'm looking at. When he do his shit down here, what he's doing down here? That's what we're making it look weird to me. It's like, damn, give me the same shit you're giving it down here, bro. Be deceptible on defense, you think.

Five steals. Master. Deceptively took the ball from the Spurs last night, two blocks. But, I mean, he's doing his thing, though. You can't knock what he's doing. It's deceptive. But in all sincerity, Luke for his career, 29, nine rebounds, eight assists. It's not just the scoring

He's doing the other thing We're going to talk about Westbrook later in the show But you talk about And he was known as a stat stuffer I think a very negative Kind of like But you look at what Lucas

I would do with the rebound and the assist And everything else In addition to his ability To give buckets That's what I mean Even comparison to Westbrook Never win though

What do he Well I mean There's a lot of players that never win That's what I'm saying Like Westbrook Like Westbrook Is he still Like the goat

consider like in the goat conversation where y'all want to put him oh the go no i mean he'll still be one of the greatest ever like are the numbers like are the numbers between him and rusbrook so different yeah or is it because of the way it looks because luca's shooting that bitch more than westbrook was shooting it he scored better you definitely scored better he scored better but it's still when you talk about stats the numbers are there they line up it's pretty here, it's, Russ is more, like, Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. And Luca's more like,

and Luca's more like, 40 on y'all tonight, just chilling. Like, you know, I'm telling, like, oh man, that's 24 that I know how to score is to, like, for sure, yeah, but for somebody that they keep saying, it's fattened over, he still find a way to get rebounds. You got to be able to, you got to be able to jump and play hard and be able to get rebounds and get players involved. So, I mean, the numbers, I mean, even if he doesn't win it,

I mean, he's still one of the greatest, Probably go down as top five point guard ever, easily. Like easily. All-N-B-A selection, so far as career, only 26 years old. Top-five point. If he's going to a rate like this, top-five point guard easily. Five-time all-N-B-A first team, meaning his position, he is one or two. Shit, this is even, most of those is before they switched his position.

Five, before, before, before position. What was she be? He doesn't have five. I mean, he don't have five offers. She is a three-time all. Three-all, so y'all put him in front of Shea right now. If they start, both their career stopped right now, Luca will probably be in front of Shea. I mean, last year, last year helped She.

For what reason? Last year helped She, like, catch up. But you're talking about the same age. One is a five-time All-N-B NBA. First team. I know, he did all that to catch up. He did all that to catch up. That's how far behind.

90 was, Shay is a three-time All-MBA, three times. One has been the number one player in his position five straight years. Like, that has to be the, he's probably the only one in that category. As of today, who is he the only one in that category at age? What year is Lucas? Six. What is this? Seventh year?

His last year. He got five straight. Until last year. She is what? Seven year or two? Oh, damn. Let me see. Then he came out of five years?

He missed it because he missed so many much time. He didn't qualify like this. Jay's in his eight, Lucas in his seven, Shay had to start the way he started. Lucas in his eighth as well. So I always factor in, how do we start? Did they throw Luca the ball right away? Gave him everything.

What did they do to Shay? But Luca came in as a Euroleague MVP. Yeah, Paul, George and everybody on that team. Co-I. He was on the same team. I mean, that's not, I mean, but that's not, you can use whatever where you want, but there's one is a five.

time for five years straight. That means from his rookie season, right, he was first team. So when the other one got his ball, he became better. When he finally got his second season, from second season on. He won. Yeah.

So that means he's better, right? Right now, if you end their career right now, first of all in two, that's what I'm going to? Eight years, one is a five-time all NBA. One is a three-time all NBA. So who's one? One has an MVP. When you're gauging the year, when you're gauging

They're right there now, but Shea needed all of that to catch where Luca is at the same age. But where is one and where it's two right now? If they were to stop right now, who it all depends on what you value? It is two. Do you value one year? Do you value your whole career? So Luca five times, Shay three times? Wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

So you're going to use Shay's year last year against him? No, I'm just saying. You have 33 years in a row, right? Yeah. But last year, you're saying that that pushed him equal to Luca, but you have to use last year as MVP, all these things that Luca don't got. Yes. So he's still. So he's still equal here above.

He has hardware. I'm going to go SGA's above. Thank you. I'm saying SGA's above because of that. Because of the hardware. I mean, and also he averaged 30 the last two years. So it wasn't like he just got it this year. Like he's been, and he was supposed to get it last year.

So I'm just saying that they- New York for the last three years, right? Or two? Damn, Luca had five. I mean, but that didn't, I mean, that last year, though, did it for him. They played a similar amount of regular season game. I think Shay at 471, Luke at 455. Yeah.

Would you like me to read the stats, Gilbert? No, okay. Who's one and those two? Whoever you want? want, whoever you value. No, it ain't whoever I've had you. It's a realistic thing. Who's won and who's?

Who are you want? You're asking a question, who do you want? Don't press him like that. Who do you have number one? Who do you have number one? Who do I have no one or who should be number one in this situation? Yeah. Where do you want?

Yeah. Okay. She should be number one. Yeah, so they both stop today. Today. You take it. They both stop today. Okay.

top five so I was like where is Shea right right so shay three-time first-team all-M-B-X selection SGA MVP finals MVP scoring champ Luca has a scoring champ yeah yeah of course one he only has one course this should be two mm-hmm shit if you think I play the amount of games you missed half the season already who SGA have any defensive selection no all defense I get another one, shit. What he did last year, he caught up. He did, I mean, he went through the board.

So, yeah, obviously he's going to boost himself up. So SGA, 25, 5, and 5 in his career. Don't do it. I'm just telling you, I'm telling you the numbers. I'm going to do what you want to do with him. And what's Luke was 29, 9 and 8? What's Shape first? What's safe first couple of years?

That's why. Yeah, I mean, go on, man. Because he came in in 2000. They came in the same year. They came in the same year? Same year. Same draft. Man, it wasn't until 2023.

How much he he averaged his first two years? So, Shay's first year in the league, he averaged 11. His second season, he averaged 19. That's a hell of a jump. What was Lucas' first two? Let me pull it up here. And with a minute. Well, Lucas' first season, he average 21, 8, and 6.

Minutes. And then next season, he average 29, 9, and 8. What's the minutes? Rookie year? Luca 32.2 minutes per game. Jay was playing 26.5. Like I said, one had to catch up. Man, they're up there.

They're both, they're sitting there. He went from 21 to 29. Both great players. He went from 21 to 29. He went from 11 to 30. He got his chance, I'm just saying. When he got his chance, he went from 11 to 30. There were steps in between that to get to that 30 piece like in a couple seasons.

I've never been the man of the team until, what, three or four years? Second year. No, stop, man. He was not the man. You just said he went from 10 to 19 years. 19. The 19 was still on the Clippers. No.

No. Chris Paul was the man on that damn team. It stopped, man. Went from 11 to 19 to 24. Oh, yeah. That was the OKC year. Of the bubble season. When Chris Paul left, that's when, yeah, 30 to 30 to 30s.

So that means, again, so that means he had to catch up. He got his own team. He didn't catch up. So he catched up and passed him when he got his own team. So who's better? shit Vopalala had this whole team all this time and can then win

he got his own team he won Who do you think Lee's in points rebounds? Who do you think won a championship? If you want to use that then yes Who do you think carry his team to a championship? But if you want to use that then say yes But if we're talking about

If we're talking about our everything Right I have more points than you, more rebound We're in the same draft Your own team We're okay so I'm in front So that means you had to do a lot

to catch up with me still. I mean, I just won. That means you had to do a lot to catch up with me if I had my own team when I first came in a year. What I'm saying, if I had to, if I had my own thing. Damn. If I did everything in one year, I didn't have to do a lot.

Damn. That's making up time, too. So you say the championship is all you need to be one player? I'm trying to figure out how you, how do you value it? What takes a baby somebody's career? So one year can take away someone six years, I'm trying to figure out how is it working for you.

So if I average 30 for five years and you average 31 to win a championship, the rest of your years don't matter. I'm trying to figure out how you, how we're doing it. That sounds like the Kobe T-Met comparison, don't it? No. No, we're going to sick right. It was doing this a lot like I was doing it, but I just did. Say right here because we- I just won.

I just won. When you just win it just kind of cancel you out. Okay, cool. So where do you, where do you- It cancels you out? What are you trying to, I mean, what are you trying to, what I'm saying is, I'm just saying, you keep saying that one year. Because I'm, so I'm saying it takes me a lot.

What I'm saying is one year of getting an MVP, Western Conference MVP, finals MVP, scoring champion, championship to jump, to get back and say I'm in front or say I'm tied. It took all of that to get here because this guy had a head start over me. They're there. Nick, stay there because this is one year. One year took me to. Made up for five years.

One year made up for five years. Imagine what we're going to do this year. That means we will surpass you. That's your average 30 last three seasons. I thought the last three seasons. The average 30. But the other one I haven't averaged 30. But one year, he's saying one year brought me even to this dude

that's been doing it since his rookie year? No, no, no. He said, no, he said if I averaged 30 for the last five years and you average 30 for one year and get everything, you're correct. What I'm saying is. No, I'm saying, but if that brings you even, if this one year brings you even, he's done, He swept.

Like, you got to think about, like, how much ground you catch on everybody would have sweep the board. MVP, Finals, MVP, Western Conference. Like, if Wimby right now gets, right, if he wins in rebound and block shots, defense a player of year, MVP, he jumps a lot of people with that. He wins a championship. He gets a championship. He gets a championship. I mean, these dudes is doing something that's never been heard of. They're cleaning the board where they can jump people's careers in one year.

That's what she did last year. So who did Joker, who did Joker jump? A lot of people. Who? Like far as centers or just overall and top players? He was, how many MVP is he won? Yes, three. How many championships is he?

Yes, one. The championship three MVP. Who did he jump? First center to average a triple double. On-paced, average, the triple double this year. Did he jump nobody? What do you mean nobody? I'm asking.

Where the fuck did he start? Right, so when that's the second round, if he was ranked 100 as the center, obviously he had to jump a lot of people if he's top 15 ever. So Shea started where he started. And jumped this one year jump. A whole bunch of them. Joker has three of them here. And he jumped a whole bunch of people.

That's what I'm asking. Who they're talking? Right now you're arguing right now if he's a top three center all time. So whoever you think is top five, they got him jumping there. I mean, eh? It depends on what you value. Do you value championships or do you value... Who were you when you played?

Is it stats or championship? Who are you when you played? Top three. I like that. Who were you when you played and when you won? Top three cents? People are arguing that. It's a very compelling debate.

I'm not arguing. Especially how we started this year. What, Shaq? Three, three. Five. He probably five. Akeem. Hakeem?

I mean, but shit. Some people. It's hard when you say the name. So I guess we just talking, we just talk a positional when we're talking Shay and Luca. No. We're talking positional. No, you said who did he not? You just said who did he jump and he said to top 15?

He's been jumped though. Hey, can y'all do a vote? He's talking Luca and Sheda. Who is higher on the ranking between? We already done that, Gil. Hakein. Oh, not that. And Yoke.

Not that. So we did. Who did you have in front right now? So before we do that, let me read this poll we ran. We said, who's better? SGA or Luca? 68% of the chat said Don't do it

Luca Donchuk Yeah, L.A. thing? Y'all like that build-up, I've been practicing. No. I'm sorry, good. But... I know you care about all... And producers wanted me to let you guys know

that Luca beat SGA as well in the 2024 West Semis. Not that that may do anything for you guys. But head-to-head seems to be an important part of that problem. Huh? Treating them like shit. Just keep talking shit about Shay.

What else he can go? Not at all. It's nice as fun. You got him as an MVP candidate right now, number one. Thank you. He's number one. He won the last year. I have him ranked number one right now.

You got to take it from him. Swaggy Thunder 8.1 right now. Y'all ain't taking it from him. Top, top spot in the West right now. I don't get it. What y'all do, you got to take, like me, I'm one of the, you have to take something from somebody. So if he's number one again and he's doing exactly what it is, I don't care what these other people's stats are. You didn't earn it from him.

He is MVP candidate number one still. Ain't lost a game. No, they lost last night. They did? I don't matter. I don't matter. Barely. The Blazers.

It was a back to back. I mean, whatever. As you guys say, you play who you play when you play. So even as a Luca fan, I mean, you're 41. That's taking it, but you still, he has to lose it. So we can't give it to you. So I got Shay won, Luca 2. In my voting.

So what's the record? So we have some early. So Lakers are 7 and 2, Thunder, 8, 1. So Lakers will soon pass the Thunder for the top spot in the West, but we'll worry about that. And we worry about that when we get a different time. Likely next. We're in the arena next week.

I'm in the back house. But we asked the chat. If we be number one, look at MVP. No, I'm not. I don't do it like that. If we asked the chat, who is better? We left it very simple. Who's better?

What do you do? Hakeem. Currently, 53% of the chat, says Nicole Yolk is better than Ikeem-Malajun. This is coming from our Deer Trusted Chat. Some abandoning work to watch this show. Gills Arena presented by Underdog Woo-Boo.

He better. God bless y'all. Well, let's talk about. Green, Whip. They don't have them better than them. Let's talk about another big man. They don't have them. I've never seen Wook play.

I know, but they got him ranked top 10 all time, so obviously he ain't, I mean, Yoke Jane jumped to top 10 yet. So let's talk about another big man trying to throw his name in the hat currently dealing with some issues. The Spurs have lost two straight games. Sons and Lakers may have provided a temporary blueprint for how to slow down Wimby. So X user Karsabi compiled a breakdown of how the Sons were able to contain the MVP candidate during their game earlier this week.

Let's take a quick look at some of the different things they have are going on. So you see an aggressive off-ball denial here. And teams often to use guards now. Time around, shoot. Will Wimby? Struggle. Give me that.

Making sure to attack Wimby when the ball is exposed. Yeah, to get stronger. That's all right. So Sun's defensive schemes led to Wimby having his worst game of the season, finished with the season low, nine points along with nine rebounds. and four blocks. Lakers were also successful

with their defensive schemes against Wimby, forcing him to shoot 36% from the field and commit five turnovers in the game. Shoot quicker. He got shoot quicker, too.

Quicker moves. They got them. Graven. Ladies of gentlemen, we got them. Woo! That shit's beautiful out there. That shit is beautiful. Does it make your heart floater?

It does. Okay. You don't stay down and play defense, though. So Wimby was asked, where his mental state and confidence was after these last two games and had this to say. Like, there's no worry, really, is just trying to figure out what's best. I mean, there's obvious things we can correct right away, but there are things.

Right now it feels like, it feels like a game is going fast somehow. It feels like the game has like, as we got better as a team, and as we got, always got better in Divi Julia as well, it's like the opponents have stepped up. in some ways defensively and I feel in a way that the game feels fast right now so we're going to catch up on it

of course but it's it's on us to see how quick so our resident Barbara J.C. wanted to let Wimby know that he is available for lineups and shape-ups I don't respect his shit should he ever need him. Winby's averaging 30.2 points and shooting 56%

from the field in his first five games this season but in his last two games he's averaging just 14 points while shooting 32% from the field and 14% from three. It feels very temporary, but our team's figuring out how to stop Wimby. Yo, yeah, so you're staring at me. No, because you put team as S's, but you had this on a rundown before they even played this when it was just one fucking team, but you had teams. Because he was playing the Lakers, Gil.

I knew what was coming. Negro Domit. He's still young, bro. Listen, I don't, listen, they haven't. they haven't figured out how to stop him he stops himself yeah there's just things he does and he he still seems to just be playing the game and he doesn't really understand his advantage his advantage is he's taller than everyone by far right so most of the time he gets the ball and he's he will squat all the way down to do his moves right he's huh by now to they love

Yeah, like he has Rui on him. He do this, turn and face, and then he gets here to do a move. Like, they're smaller than, they want you to do that. Like, if you get the ball and you turned in face and you're sitting here, which means a smaller guy who's like this has to now stand fully up. Right? He has to lock his knees to do one of these. Now you can go.

So you have to start going from here to here, right? Versus sitting here trying to do this. You don't have a first full step. These guys are smaller. They're going to get under you. So you got to come from here, turn, shoot one of these, shoot two of these. Now Rui has to come to you and that has to do the close out. Now you go around him.

It's like he wants to be a guard so bad, but he gets into this mold when, yo, just turn face. And the dribble's too hard. Turn face. Shoot from here. It's not like anybody can block you. Like you're talking about just that move alone. For sure. That move alone.

There's only a few people who can. can even contest that jumper that means they have to stand straight up to then jump just just off this turn the face look down you can pass from here and then you can just straight shoot from here make one pump fake right all you got to do is make one of those one of those one of those are changes but he gets the ball and he's ready to go already he's already low man do the over the top yeah he want to get low and do the metal old kd is yeah he files too with he files He gets him out of his rhythm too a lot And then the lack of the shooters around him too

So you can just double him right now He really, he's still, what, this is 30 years? Yeah, this is his third year? Yeah, this is his third year. He's figuring out, man, so. Obviously, we're all super hard on with me to start the season He ain't used to having a whole team trying to guard him too Gotta go to dirt.

This is when he goes to dirt. This summer go to dirt, learn that high shot That put the knee out shot, unguardable. That's all you need next. Yeah. all you need to because that's going to open up the rest of your game because you don't even have to be strong right because when you're when you're when I'm behind you and I get to do this when I turn in face you got to take your hand off right you got to take your hand you got

to take it off so now it's it's it has nothing now you're just shooting practice shots I don't say a little bit of clay because clay don't ever bring that business down please Shastra Damas I see you obviously let the couch speak you were in deep thought it appeared to me from my vantage point you appreciate your observation okay um From an individual standpoint, I could agree with y'all, but you guys know I'm a team guy. So I think that the sons played great team defense, elbows and boxes. They were on the nail. They switched, they front it, and made it tough for him.

They showed bodies. They did everything the old school defense used to do. Too bad if he and sons don't play like that every night. They played to extinguish a fire that was hyphen-in-in, and everybody's giving this bus. and the spark for Wemby. They came in, they showed a blueprint. That blueprint is just old school defense. Be in front, showbodies, reach, dig, make sure he sees us all the time.

For Wembe, I think, is him being more patient and understanding exactly what the offense has when Dillon Harper is out and you got a bunch of slasher's in the game. Castles hasn't proven himself to be a knockdown shooter. Then he hasn't been hitting the shots as he used to. used to and he did in the first three games. Harrison Barnes not knocking it down as much. Sohan makes them more of a liability because he's not a shooter at all. So now you got to look at how Tim Duncan used to play in the post. When he used to be patient and used to see those cutters and be able to find those guys moving around in the offense. So you got to give Phoenix credit

for one for bringing back shell defense is what we talked about. That shit got cooked too back in the day. That shell defense. Can I finish, can I finish killer? God, damn. Shell defense, to shell defense. Shit. He didn't inject my shit so fast. God damn. To the shell defense, goddamn. You see how they was doing the shell defense. The Lakers come in, they mimic it because JJ's seen, and this was effective against Wemby. Everybody move around. We got to shuffle against him, scramble against him, make it tough against him, show bodies, and we got to be on the nail when he has the ball on the wing. That was very effective. Keep him off the glass. Make those other shooters shoot. Make him shoot. Make him take

tough shots. Everything is working into everybody else's benefit, but the thing I'll say to whimby is, this is what happens when you start, we start hot and you're a big man, and you don't have the pieces around you to extinguish those fires. So once these guys start, hitting shots they start moving the ball a little bit more he'll he'll have openness but right now it's gonna be it's gonna be it's gonna be tough on him right so I'll just say in the shell drill then yeah I mean everybody because they don't have I mean until D Fox comes back I mean once D Fox come or Harper it become but right now if no if nobody around him can make shots then it's already it's you

know if you think about him if you think about him not doing nothing too if he turning and he's trying to do one-on-one shit while they're playing two-on-one, they're doubling and they're waiting on him to put it on the ground. It's not going to help him to just be jacking up shots. So he's got to be patient and wait and see guys flashing, slashing. Everybody got to cut on the weak side.

Coach got to give up more schemes. Got to figure it out. What's his arm, what's his arm left? You got to do a quicker shot. Because there's just, it's just things that he just doesn't do that just make, there's no team besides

Houston or Janice with Milwaukee No, not even Janice and Milwaukee You're talking about Orlando Who got a bunch of 610, 611 guys That can play front and back

Atlanta? There's no way There's no way Sons was allowed to play front and back against you Yeah, for sure First of all, the nigga in front of you is too small Right

But what ends up happening sometimes is They don't throw the ball to He'd be holding right here They don't know how to do the regular. Like, what are you doing it? I don't give a, man, you better put your goddamn hand that high. Let me throw it up so you can, oh. Eight foot wingspan.

Eight foot wingspan at 7-4, meaning slow your ass down a little bit. You're moving too fast, right? There's somebody in front, there's somebody in back, right? Now you see, he's here, right? So he's not going to jump. He's going to try to put his ass on you, right? Throw it up. And when you throw it up, listen, you don't need to try to make passes like this.

Turn in face. Right. And you go to the... Hold it up. Turn in face. Look. Look with your eyes. Stop trying to do one of these and you...

No, turn in face. Not damn. Turn in face. Now you can pick people apart. Because you can sit there and hold the ball like this. It's like, it's like muxy ball down there. You can turn in face, look. You can start picking people apart.

There's nothing they can do. He did that shit. But because you play. small when you have the ball. Once you want to make your move, you play big. But once you're trying to do your moves, you're smaller. So play along. Catch it high. Keep it high. Look. There's back doors that's coming. You get the, you get to be your pitcher, right? You get to sit here and pitch passes. What's just got a report for Wambi? What's my scouting report for Wemby right now? Double team. No.

We come in the locker room. We come in the locker room. You doing a scout. Lay the paper, give everybody the paper. What's your scouting report? What's your scouting report for Wimby? My scouting report would be push him off the block, push him off his pocket. Yeah, rough him up.

Help, as soon as he catch. We dig in on every dribble. We might double on every dribble if we need to, depending on if he's making shots. I'm doubling on every dribble. Because it's too, it's... If he's bringing the ball up the floor, we're on the nail. We elbows up. and boxes, we're making them shoot jumpers.

What's your scouting report? You do the same thing? You do the same thing to, shit, what, Kobe and them, too, in the post, mellow? They still sport 30 and 40 on that stuff. I'm going to put, I'm going to put, I'm reporters, let them catch it, like you said, bump him off, and when he make us move, we don't dig. If we look at the film, we just now, they push them off the block, and then they fronted the post.

You got to make quicker this. Who? And then made him, made him throw it over top. The scouting report on him is, you push. put a small guy on him. Yeah, that takes away his power. His superpower is he can dribble and make moves and create his own shots. So you put a three, a taller two, but you put Vando and Rui on him, right?

Where he can't put the ball down, which now takes away that part of the game. If he tries to do pick and pop and pick and roll, you have a guard under him. He's not comfortable catching and just shooting like that. That's the weakness. His post-up is the weakness. So down if he wants to take this guard down there, right? Because he doesn't know how to turn and face and shoot, he's going to want to put it down. That's when you dig that.

So you put a smaller guy on him, right? You put your vandos on him. Should they even have Marcus smart on him? Caruso. Right? Because he's not going to take it. The Caruso's going to guard him. Right?

They're not going to put a hold check on. They're going to put a Caruso or Dort on him to take away his dribbling powers. Right? You're going to take away his dribbling, right? So he can't sit there, play with the ball. Then he's isolated in the game that he don't even have yet. That's the scouting. That's what Phoenix did.

That's what Lakers did. I'm not going to put my big man on them. So the first four games, what teams allowed him to do was go one-on-one against the bid. Get comfortable. And they didn't, they didn't clog the paint, they didn't close the lanes, they didn't help on the nail, they didn't dig on the dribbles. To me, what I've been saying is this is old school, this is defense. This is the defense that the NBA has taken out because we haven't had threats like Wimby.

that make you say, listen, man, let's get back to the old school shell. He's killing us with this. Let's shrink the floor. Let's make those guys beat us from the outside. Let's make him take tough shots. Nothing at the rim. So the shell only works against the way he's playing. San Antonio?

Against a big like him, not San Antonio, but just a big player. If it was your L&B, you would want to play it the same way. Don't work on it. They don't use it on dual, but you would want to. If you go back to it, you'd be like, yo, this is how we're. going to play Joelle. They're going to fucking pose. Yeah, but see.

Jokers are a better faster depending on if them guys are cutting on the weak side. See, and I was just about to say that. That defense will work for Wemby right now, but not everybody, though. It works on Wimby until he understands how to, yeah, yeah.

He just needs to look at film, right? He just needs to look at film and watch how he plays and then understands, wait a minute, because I'm trying to beat him off this, I don't need to, right? If they play small, I'm not even going to put the ball down. I'm just going to shoot these jumpers. If they put somebody big, I'm going to, he has to have an offense.

This is when mastery comes. He has to have an offense for each type of player. Right? When I had, when Tony Parker or Earl Boykins or T.J. Ford guarded me. I just posted up and shot over them. I didn't play around with it. Don't play around. He's trying to show what he like.

Yeah, just boom, I'm just shooting these shots. I didn't do none of that. When I played in his shooting guards, I score. I mean, I beat them off the trouble. He's trying to see what the defense is throwing at him. That's the patience where he's like, all right, what are they doing now? They did this last time. Damn, they're not doing this.

I believe he just needs to trust in the shooters on the weak side who need to get better. If you think about Luca, if you throw some shit at Luca, what Luca going to do? Score. He going to throw that bitch to the weak side. They're going to make the shot. Or score. Or score. I mean, or score.

Or score. I'm saying he's finding out. I'm saying he's finding out. You have to find, oh, no, no, I'm giving him that. Give him that. But this is what I'm saying, like, when you find that open man that you got confidence is going to knock down that shot and it ain't Sohan or Castle, and you look different as an offense.

Now the defense has to adjust. Hey, man, we can't keep running this, coach. They're killing us on the backside. That used to be Bruce Bowen in that corner, knocking that bitch down. That used to be Matt Bonner at that motherfucker an elbow knocking that bitch down so if you don't got them knock down shooters that's knocking that shit down for tim it's like yo what are you doing we went in as a defense wait hold on so we say because it's his third year i'm not saying that i understand what he's saying yeah oh

he had to do it last year no no so wait hold on hold on hold on hold on hold on he didn't do it last year he wasn't because he's still getting buckets huh you all everybody's about to say because he's 18 I'm saying yeah yeah i was about to go back to that cooper flag because why are we giving him some some grace because this is third year. Cooper Flagg being 18. How much the average still, though? 20. This season?

The average 20. 30. I just, you can't run that defense that they did against Wimby. You can't run that defense against Janice. You're not going to be able to run that defense. You're not going to be able to run that defense. If you could, you would do it.

You're not going to run that defense in January against him. So Wimby's average in 26 and 13 still. Okay. You know what I mean? You're not going to be able to run that defense when Fox gets back. Well, no, for sure not. Yeah. You know what I mean?

For sure, for sure, my box. It's, you have two shooters, you got, your two guards aren't flat-out shooters, right? They still need tweaking in his office. Right? Just remember, he got here. They're still trying to figure what he is to then bring pieces. Once they get the pieces that he's going to need, then you will see his full game. Even if he has flaws, you won't be able to exploit them.

Because these passes, you're trying to double off of them, they don't exist. Right? When I get the ball and you try to double off of them, they don't exist. off the guard, that's Fox now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So there's still pieces that they need to pick. It's going to be just how LeBron James, right?

When we talk about LeBron James' team's being sorry, they're sorry to us as in the players. But what they're skilled that keeps everybody honest. You have a Cal Corby, you have Boobie Gibson, you have

Moe Williams, right? You have flat-out shooters where you try to double, because this guy average is six. But if there are two threes, he shoot 55%. Those are the plays that he makes. That's my point. That's my point about scouting report, though.

It's contingent on who's on the floor. If we, if the Phoenix Sun is about to play them and we see him on the court, you're the assistant or I'm the assistant, we're like, all right, look, we're not going to scout them the way they've been playing them the last four games. We've got to play them different because we see who's on the floor. We let him shoot. We let him shoot.

man, if he's drive, you follow him when, we're going to double him off the top. So when Fox come back, Harper come back, we got to change our squadron. He's only one that's really extra hit. He's hitting a little bit. He's hit. He's going to help a lot.

No, no, no. I'm going to say, he should be happy. He hit an open shot. Yeah, he hitting them. His age getting wide up and three. That D. Fox and Winby Pick and Roe is going to be different. But like you say, if we're not doing that, if we don't have that threat as a coach,

I'm seeing that on the floor. I'm like, all right, this is what we're doing tonight. J.J. is not dumb when it comes to Scott Report. I don't even do pick a row with him. You wouldn't do picking a roll when being, uh, D. Fox? Why not? Because now you have him what, doing what? What do you want to do?

Pick and pop. Pop. Not if we tell him the roll. How I want him to pop? We tell him the roll. We tell him the roll. Get down there. I can do a pick and roll with somebody else, right, my four,

and have him sitting in the dunker spot. on the rotation. Yeah. Let him be the... And let somebody roll, you suck. I mean, yeah, I mean, if he wants to pick and pop, but if we could tell him to roll, and he rolls, what a guard going to do?

Wouldn't be trying to come off a pick and roll. And they still go sit on the nails. They're going to jump the shit out of that so quick. You do it at the elbow. I mean, at the freak stuff, the elbow. He got to get down in there. Now I've got to let him get down there as a guard.

Right? You're just going to invert it. Yeah. You're right over the little girl. I don't need him in the pick and roll because now you're talking about knees. people trying to run through them. You know, you know, guards, we're going to try to run through that.

So I'll just, I'll keep him, I'll keep him below the free throw line at a certain point. Let him play this in-between game. Let him play high-low, like, moves like that. How would you guard that pick and roll with Fox and Wemby, though? How would you actually guard? If Wimby's a guard? No. If Fox is coming off the wing, they say side-pick-and-roll, corner gone.

No corner-field. How would you go? Are you switching that? Yes. Oh, you switch that to. Small guard. Small guard on. Now what we're doing after that?

Are we throwing it in? Yeah. No, no, no, because that other guard is going to be... It's going to be rotation on the weak side. No, I'm going to switch it and then now Fox, what is Fox going to do? Fox going to bring it out, either going to throw it in. Exactly. Yeah.

So are we going on one-on-one with Fox? No, we're going to one-on-one. See, Fox's a bred where we bred. You take, if I get you on the pick, I'm not going to now retreat back up to to then go back at you. If you're gonna switch right here, I'm gonna use the space you gave me to then go. Once they back up the retreat to then

to isolate this, that's lobbies. It becomes, it becomes irrelevant now. No, if I'm going past this big, say whoever guard and Wimby. Yeah, if, like, whoa, we have three or four. Well, let's say to finish. Which would be at three or four.

No, let's say it did it like Phoenix. Phoenix plays small. Phoenix plays small. Even Lakers play small. He got Vando on Wimby. And it's, so, Luca, Wimby, switch off. It's Luca.

But then you got Marcus Smart rotating over who won't that switch. That's still a lob action for Darren Fox to go by for either the layup or the lob. No, I'm switching. I'm switching that pick and roll. Fox and Wimby's guy. So if it's Vando, if it's, let's say it's Vando and Marcus Smart, right? I'm going to switch it. I'm going to be going to Fox.

Yeah. Vando is going to be guarding Fox. And then I'm going to hold Wimby. I'm just going to hold Wimby up. And what is Wimby going to do? I'm going to hold them up. No, I just hold them up. You're going to pass it to him.

What are you going to do? Do this shit? You saying Fox's not going to turn the corner on Vando? No. I mean, maybe once a, but not like that. I mean, because Vandot is a defense. No, he's a guard. He's not going to turn it.

He's not going to just turn a corner on him like that every time. Maybe once, but it all depends on what side he's coming on. If you back up, he can speed that. Because, yo, just think about when they do the pick and roll with Dord. I want you to back up. With Dord and Caruso. But that's like me, that's like you too, though. You won't want that big on you?

But I never backed up. Oh, I did. See, that's what I said. I understood. I understood if I took the pick and roll and they switched out. Remember, they didn't hard show. The switch is level level, so it doesn't make the retreat. Okay.

So if I'm at the pick and roll like John's life, if I'm at the end, I do this pick and roll and then you switch, I'm still free throw level. Yeah. Remember, my first step is fast. So now I got a sore guy on me. I'm attacking from the free throw line. I'm not backing up to the free throw line.

I'm not backing up to the, right right right right so tell me about this play here all right we got side pick and roll he rose to the block swing it the wing uh the corner guy comes to set a cross screen for wimby to come across to make sure that now mark is smart is not guarding him right so you got daren fos wimby wimby rose now market smart is on wimby we don't want the high low we swing it swing it the corner guy comes across to set the cross green for wimby to go to the block. That corner guy is now guarding Wimby because they're switching everything. Now we don't have Marcus Smart on Wimby. We got probably got Austin Reeves on Wimby. We got Rui on Wimby now.

Rui would be the guy that they're swinging it to at the top. From De'eron Fox are swinging it. So the guy's up the Wimby go down. He's swinging. So it would be a forward on forward screen. It'll be a guard center screen. Now if you got Marcus Smart guard and Wemby, he's got to switch out to the other guard. Now we got like, we got Luca or Austin Reeves, guard and wimby to turn and shoot, like you said initially. Now I can catch

turn and turn. Not a trap. You can't track because we're moving too much. I know what you're talking about. Remember, that's the fast move he talks about. Remember, let's treat it like this. Right? You're talking about there's three people over here. This is the pick. This is the pick and roll right here.

Look where the traffic is. You're going to do a pick and roll. He's going to roll. Then this bottom guy is going to set a pick for him to go back over here. So I'm going to swing it and swing it. He's coming here for the post up. There's too much shit going on right now. My brain. No, no, no, no.

We're going to slow it down for you. You know what I'm saying? Slow this shit down for you. I get it. Let me get a side pick. Let me get a napkin, please. The pick and roll is here. He's going to roll.

Then this bottom guy is going to set a pick for him to go this way. Right? You got this guy who's going to catch it. Pass it, pass it, right? Now, he's in traffic now. I already done inverted this. I'm not playing. What I'm saying is I didn't invert.

You can do this play one time before I realize what you're doing. And then if this is Rui God, we're just going to invert, Rui, you take the back. You take the, you take the cross screen and switch. Muck it up, too. Yeah, you're going to muck it up. So we're talking about, all right, side pick, bro. So we got Deerrin Fox right here.

We got Wimby right here. Mm-hmm. We got guy over here, guy high. This pick and roll goes. We need one more. We need one more guy. Where will he be? We said not corner field.

Yep, yep. Put him right there. So I know he can't turn the corner. Right. So Wimby comes down. They advanced the ball. This guy comes across, sets that screen for Wemby to go underneath. This guy has to come down there, right?

Yep. This guy can either cross around or he could just, swing, swing. They all just cluttered here. This usually is Matt Bonner, because this used to be the play that used to run for Tim Duncan. Right?

So pick and roll, roll, cross screen, set it here. Now you got here. Now let's just say they throw it in to Wemby from here. He cuts through. Now he replaces. Yep.

Or you could do guard, or you could do pick and roll right here. He can do it in, you know, yeah. It's a lot of option, but the movement allows the defense not to center in on Wemby. so he can actually make a move without them digging in the post. But Wemby is going to have to be patient, though,

and also be able to turn around like, like Gil said, because if Wembe just catches it and just get into his move, then. This is execution. This is execution. That's more like game on the line. Because now what ends up happening in a play like that is, is one, I know you can't turn the corner because you have three on one side, right? So usually a play like that.

It's not four to turn the point. They're going to do a pig and roll, and then he's going to really pop back. and then you're going to try to stay on the same side because there's no help. Yeah. Right, so you're going to do the pick and roll. Pick and roll is full of shit.

I know I can't, Pat, I'm not going to swing it. I'm going to do a pick and roll, come back. He rolls and then reposts right there. I throw it in and we try to go from there. You can't be three at the top. You can't be corner field. No, no, once I go. So we go Deeron Fox, Wambi, Cornerfield.

It depends on what this guy does, though. This is the elbow goes on who that is. I know, but I'm saying if he goes, he can go. to the corner and you could be right here. But he would need to here because this is the corner field, so you're coming off to pick and roll with Wimby, Wimby's diving. He's going to come here and advance the ball. Oh, that's why, my bad, my bad, the guy that's picking will go corner here, right here.

This is the corner field and then he comes and sets this screen, boom, it's like America's play. You know, he can flash here. This dude usually isn't there. This is how Utah Jazz used to run their defense, they used to make you pass that ball. to him. This was a shot or a drive, but they never wanted you to finish the play. So I'm thinking for Wemby to be effective.

That's true to roll up. That's my street. Yeah. We used to get that shot all the time. I can tell you right now, if I have Castle or anybody catching that ball on that wing. Where? Do you see Castles here? If Castle's right there and this guy goes and set that pick,

I'm going to tell Castle, every time that defense player turn his back, run down his back. That's what I used to do. I used to run down and up. But I'm going to tell you what's going to happen. This is Shemp, this is Penny. This is going to say this is Penny.

This is Castle at all. Then I'm going to. Because remember, if they do do something here, Castle goes for the lob on the back side. I'm going to tell you what's going to have him roll up. I do you're going to say that. Man, that's my shit. The roll up for the shock, when he dies. So you want Penny here.

Yeah, I can't. Penny be here. Make him play honest. All right. Because dude can't help in that corner. In this corner right here, right? Hey, he can't bump, man. He can't do nothing.

Yeah, but he has to. That's his. But he's not looking. It's too bumped that. Yeah. Yeah. They're not looking for that, dog. They're looking for a cross screen that's coming from here.

Let me tell you what's going to happen. But it's a lot of action, though, Gil. It's a lot of action that's happening. If you talk about, we're going pick and roll here, Winby Rose. But wait, if this, before he comes to set the screen, he has to help. So that he has to be here.

He's just got to move. He's going to be open. This is a fourth. That was my shot. I don't have to help. But you used to pass the shit. It's Wambi rolling. But think about it.

It's Wambi rolling. There are three people who's doing it all do what? Yeah. Shoot the fucking ball, right? We all shoot the fucking ball. So what is up happening with this play right here? This man right here is the problem. Because what's going to happen is once you swing it to that guard and this guy goes to set this pick.

The defensive guy, I'm not worried about my guy now. I got to make sure this guy don't run. Uh-huh. Right? sure he doesn't steal, right? So if he goes low, I'm here. If he goes high, I'm here. I'm doing this already. Where's my guy going to go? He has nowhere to talk to. You're talking about this guy? This guy. So when he screens, you're saying he got a help on the pop. That defense the players is just to help. He's just going to set up for sure. He has to because

he has to meet Wendy when he comes across. I'm just saying. That's the switch we're talking about. I don't need a switch. Just I don't need to switch. But no, because we have the live on the weak side. I don't, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, this is a Pass to the screener. It's screen the screener. Okay. Here, let's, wait. You got a lot of ass in your face.

Screening and screener. You got a lot of ass in your face. Let's start from the point. Let's start from the, yeah. Pick the board up. Offense, you'll be moving away later. Right? Offense, defense.

This is offense. Yep. Defense. Offense defense. Mm-hmm. All right. All right. When this dude, when this dude

pick and rolling, he comes off, right? Yep. Right, if he's going to sit a little bit, he's going to be here. So this guy's going to just sit here. Yep. Right? This guy is going to try to muck it up a little bit. Put the circle more on the wing.

Right. So he's going to sit here. Once this ball goes here, this big man goes down here, right? So it kind of looks like this. Right? What ends up happening is this guy goes to set this pick. Yep. Right?

This guy goes to set this pick. pick this. So the ball's here. He's going to just sit. He's just going to sit here. This guy's going to go under or over, depending on what the defense is. They're coming together. This guy is all the way over here now. So you have kind of like this type of look. So this guy is paying attention to my guy. So I'm just going to sit here, muck it up on this side, wherever my man goes. If he tries to come up top, if he tries to go and sit, because he has nowhere to go. This guy has nowhere to go after he sets his pick on Wimby. Yeah, he does

flashes back to the ball He can flash back to the ball Which my guard is there No, your guard is not there Your guard is going to be on the elbow Your guard is going to be on the elbow The pass that you're going to We want is to go all the way

Back across the lane Because everybody's Once the ball goes here Everybody's move But that's if we decide I'm keeping Wendy from the ball If that's if we decide to It all depends on

It all depends on if Fox advances the ball To that wing That means we're going to execute the offense. That means we're going to go get Wimby the ball on the other block, regardless of what happened. I'm telling you exactly. They're going to buck it up.

My guy is setting to pick for Wemby. I'm sitting here, right? Tell me where my guy is going to go. You're the bottom guy. I'm the bottom guy. I'm the bottom guy watching. You're going to have to switch on Wimby. I don't have to do nothing because you're not guarding anybody.

Exactly. So now we flash back to the bar. So you're, I know you're not guarding me. So that means you literally have to do this turn trying to turn back to the ball. That's what they teach. Hello. Right. He's already there.

Oh, he's already there. That's what I said. It's already going to be mucked up. It's not that close. It is. It's not. Let me see it. I'm in the way.

I'm not moving nowhere because my guy turned his back. So the only thing he can do is try to set this pick because you got Wimby going under. The only thing he can do is try to catch that. That's all I'm paying the teaching. If Wimby's trying to catch that. catch the ball on the block. That's the only way it's going to be mucked up. So where are we trying to get, when we're the ball?

Trying to give him the ball where he's comfortable. Okay, so he's catching the ball right there, off the block, right there. That means that guy he's talking about can no longer just be turned with his back to the ball. And if this Nick with the ball, Nick can drive. Yeah, because you're out of your back is to him. I'm the defense. Your back is to Nick. I'm the defense.

That's what you're saying. That's what he said. I'll just go. You're winning. You're with him. This is what's happening. You're with you. You're set the screen.

This guy has the ball over here. You're my guy, right? So you're the corner guy that's going to set a pick with me. Oh, I'm the defense. You're going to set a defense. Right there. I'm going right. You're going to set a pick.

You're going to set a pick. You're going to set a pick on. So he's going to you. I'm guarding you. I'm going to you. So you go all the way across the lane. Going on all the way across the lane. Okay.

That's seal on him. No. B, seal, Gil. His man is there. Where's his man? No, his man can't be there. Why not? Because he's following you, then Nick just fucking, no.

It just fucking was, I'm right here. Brandon, if you seal, if you seal him. No, no, no, no. Yeah, if you put it in like that. Okay. Seal him. My man, my man, his man is with him on the bottom. That's a double team.

Right. That's a double team. That's two motherfuckers for one. So he's wide open. So where is this guy? So where is this guy that's guarding him right here? That's what he said. He's following you.

You play Windby, sir. Yeah, he played Winby. I'm winning. You are guarding you. You guarding me. No, no, no, guard. The players of the balls over here. Pick and road comes in to me.

All right. You coming from the cross screen. He's going to pick for me. You say him and seal him, dude. Boom. I'm going on. Yeah. I'm here.

Look at, look at Nick. Oh, my dear. Oh, shit. That's not happening. That is not happening. That is not happening. First of all, that is the Fritho line. That is not half.

right here, like, what the way? No, you're at the other end of the point. But I got both of y'all, I'm bringing, I'm bringing both of y'all over here. So I move to the open spot, which is the open spot? In the middle, in the middle. Like this, go right, remember, I'm, this is a fan on this.

You're all the way over there. This is the free-thole line, right? Right, this is the free, you're going from frito line, right, free- You're on the outside. I'm on the outside of the free-lo. So you're going to his frito line, to set a screen.

He's setting a screen on the other free... On the other block, on the other block. And you're right on the block is like right here. Right there. Where are you going? He's focused on getting through on why. He's right there. There's another guy right here.

The other guy is open. The man that's in the corner, this guy is there too. He's going to be open. The guy's going to be open. The corner has to throw all the way from him. Oh, he's not that. No, gentlemen, what are you talking about? Enough, let's sit down, fellas.

Hold on, bro, bro, I'm trying to. Yes, bro, I'm right here, and that all that's, somebody's going to go with this. Nobody's open. You got two guys on red. Remember this stunt and get back. Okay, I got the ball now. I got the ball now.

I got the ball. Done or stay. Talk. Now you're talking about. Long as we're talking, we good. I see it. I see it. No.

I see it. I see it. All right. All right. All right. All right. Final. Final thoughts, we got a lot more.

to cover in this show, but do appreciate your guys' passion and enthusiasm. This is the defense. Where, where, after you set this pick, we're, I see a still in one time. You're just throwing swaggy, Gil. Can we show the audience with your, which you're driving number two? So NBA on Prime has the LED course, right? So this guy, this guy has to make the play, right? I'm sending here to make sure he don't drive.

Winby's coming here. But you're saying you got your back towards this guy. No, I don't, I don't, you got, you're setting to pick, right? I'm here to make sure there's no doubt. ducking, makes your nose driving. So where are you going to go? Right there to open spot. With open spot, Nick.

Remember, what I'm saying is where you're going to go now? It's not where you're going. I'm asking him where he's looking at. Where are you going? You're going to try to duck back through here. I'm on the high side. This is me. This is him.

This is still this guy. We have you in a triangle defense. Because what we want you to do is we want you to go all the way over here. We want you to throw this ball weak side because you as a screener, Because it's not like this guy's going to come down and set a pick for you to come up. He could, but he could hit a three right there because y'all so focused right there. All you got to do is roll up. All you got to do is roll up.

You give a birthday, not much space. That's a three. Y'all act like we have to get that fucking serious. Is that easy? How far you need somebody that you want somebody away from you to shoot the ball? How far? How far? How far?

How far? Right here, contest. That's too late. It's still a... It's still a... It's still a... Remember who's on this team? You are crazy.

This is Castle and the vessel. These are the guys that we are... That's the two players up there. This is not... Okay. But we're saying... If it's a shooter, we say... If it's a shooter...

You still... You still... You're not helping that much. You got Castle throwing it in in in... Again... You're not helping out the free throwing them at the three... ...top of three like this. You're not doing that.

I'm forgetting where everyone else is. All right. You're trying to have the screen and go set the screen. That's why it doesn't work. Y'all didn't run that place. No, we did. But I didn't work. I didn't work with Al Jefferson all the time.

And that's why I didn't work with Al Jefferson against us. It always worked. That's why because you had telephone team and I just want to sit there because you want to go all right. I'm coming up. I'm talking about me on the school. I'm trying to tell you. No, but I wonder why we kept smacking the niggins

Oh, no way. No. Because your guy who set in the screen, he ran it with KZ, he ran it with all of these. The guy who sat in the screen has nowhere to go if the play is not for him, because then I just sit. Now, if you try some tricky shit where the guy who's setting a pick on Wemby

is getting another pick down. That's America's play. Even if that tried that, we have to jump switch. Yes, jump switch. It's a dumb play. It's been a dumb play. That's why they don't run. We get the whole play is to get Wimby the ball.

That's a play. A very stellar wimby discussion, but we got to keep this thing moving. We did ask the chat. We did ask the chat, give it up, give it up for you. The old arena presented by a dog. Whoa, whoa. Nobody's supposed to know. I appreciate it, you see what I'm saying?

Nobody's posting up. Draymond was posted. Right. Right, now the decoy. Yes, he was the decoy. Right. Go get staph. But Wimby's not the decoy in this position.

I know. I know. Wimby's the dude that's going to score it. Raymond used to have a fucking layup, he wouldn't make you, shit. I'm saying with shooters. I'm talking about what I would do, like, what we did. We did that shit, but we did all shit. But we, that was our play.

You said to pick for Brennan. We're not paying for Brennan. We're going to set the down pick for you to come up. But if Brandon was open down there, silly, you thought to him, he's going to do that bitch because he's right there. I'm standing there. Right there. If you're standing there, that means you're bad. Because we're coming up.

Someone's open. Someone's open. So why we, why we? why did we create a play for the bottom guy to go back up top to shoot the three is because these were sitting here because right they're just sitting here so your man is sitting here

so we're going to run me come down set a pick on you and your guy comes up that's where you get the top of the three if they didn't guard it right Brandon was getting a dunk if they didn't guard it the way they needed to for you to come set the screen and come off the screen there's no way you're getting a dunk

because I'm the The guy who's got who's sitting the screen dog is just sitting there looking for it. But if that guy is chasing you, if I say, I'm not going to stay here and wait on Brandon because they're not going to throw it to him and they're not going to dunk it. I'm just going to stay with mine. Hey, guys, I'm staying with Gil all the way. Oh, now you're changing the defense. No, I'm saying if you're the guy that's going to stop here because you know that y'all are the switch on the back side.

I'm trying to give it to Wimby. Try it. So if we're not going to give it to Wemby, that means I can stay on you. You because the place for you. If you're not giving it to Windy and there was no point of running that plate. It was two sausages in the fire fan. So we asked the chat.

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He's going to have to get stressed back. He got to get stressed a little bit. Lose that way and get back skinny. Get that skinny blue face. Let's keep the thing moving. You're going to knock him out. The math were back in action Wednesday night, take out. Hey, man, stop rushing us, though.

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doing this no more. We need the LED court. We've got the clipboard. I can think about it. All right. Let's keep moving. So Mads were back in action Wednesday night taking on the Zionist Pelicans with the loser falling into last place in the Western Conference.

80 misses third straight game while dealing with the calf injury. And with the Mab's rough start so far this season, head coach Jason Kidd made the decision to bench Clay Thompson moved the Angelo Russell into the starting lineup, also known as Little Deelow here in Gills Arena presented by Underdog Woo Boo. So the DeLoh. The D-Lo move was to lessen the burden of Flag handling the Mab's point guard responsibilities. Coming into the game, Clay was averaging 8 points while shooting 32% from the field, 26% from distance, which are all career lows.

While having D-Lo on the floor proved beneficial for Cooper Flagg, it wasn't enough to get the Mavs back on track. Let's take a look at some of the highlights, if we can, please. So, oh, you see Flagg out here doing. Flagg led the Mavs in the game, finishing with 20 points, 9 rebounds. and three steals. He was eight for 19 from the field. So Flagg is the youngest player since LeBron James to reach 100 plus points, 20 plus rebounds and 20 plus assists in the season. Delo, like I mentioned, in the starting lineup, finished

with nine points and three assists in his 21 minutes of action. Easy work. While Clay Thompson came off the base, he has season highs with 11, 11 points, including three three-pointers made in his 21 minutes of action. Look at Cooper Flagg. So with the Mavs down, late in the game, Flagg had a chance to send it to OT. Let's take this first shot. But let's watch him. A couple of hoops,

a couple stops. Okay. That's an American Caucasian right there. It's all lefties too. But with the Mavs down, all this shot, man, it was a nice to love. Mavs down, too, letting the game flag had a chance to send in OT, but missed a 15-footer as the Pelicans went on to get the win.

Mabbs have lost four of their last five games, have the worst offensive rating in the league. After the game, Flag had this to say about the tough start to his rookie season. I mean, for me, it's the most, you know, I've lost since, you know, I think ever. So, you know, it's obviously a lot different. And, you know, you have to adapt to just playing a lot more games and, you know, get used to that. But, you know, I wouldn't say anybody's happy. You know, guys obviously are trying to stay level-headed and know that we've got a lot more games to go and it's still really early.

But, I mean, I'm speaking personally, I know it's not fun to just keep losing and losing games. So, you know, like to make a change and hopefully start, you know, make a little bit more. steps in the right direction. Flagg is playing the second most minutes per game amongst rookies this season but has one of the worst plus minus averages amongst all rookies through eight games. Flags averaging 14 points seven rebounds, three assists with 39, 29, 100 shooting splits has made all of his free throws.

But corporate cemetery, Larry, obviously Flagg disrespected you before the season started. You said you were going to be on his head all season. He didn't, the base shot. He need to know his history, Gil. He didn't disrespe the NBA history and black history. He didn't know what he was. And black and black and black.

And we get close to February, Cooper. Juneteenths, he got to respect June teeth, man. About to pop out on him. But how would you grade Cooper Flagg's rookie season so far? You know, he's going through the ups and downs and understanding that the league is not college and high school. And, you know, when you make that leap from where you are, You know, it's a different type of game.

I mean, when we got to the lead, the first thing I learned was it's a quick turnaround. You know, in college you had at least a week to kind of harp on that loss or that win. You kind of had four days of practice to bounce back. But now it's like, you've got to bounce back to back. Bro, can you sit around thinking about what just happened? Quick turnaround. Got another one. And a lot of the vets will tell you that, like, hey, bro, put that shit.

behind you got another game. So for him, it's just, you know, bouncing back, understanding it's a man's league now. And you're going to have some bad games, you're going to have some good games, you just got to be able to know how to bounce back from him. And I think Jason Keating them got to be kicking itself in the ass at now. It's nasty how they started the season experimenting on him when he could have been playing better. I'm not saying he would be exponentially better, but his feel of the game, the plus minus, is nasty based on the position he was put in. And I think not having confidence in Delo to actually put Cooper in positions to whether

it's assists or not. What Delo do is he manages to get, he is a game manager. He ain't going to do anything extraordinary. He hit open shots when he can. He's not going to go out there and get you 10 assists, but he will manage the game like a point guard. And when you put Cooper in a position where he has to do those things, he's out of position now.

And now all that, then you look at Clay. Clay really looking like Duncan Penderhues out there Like he's looking like He really on some other shit out there He found out of your young kids out there Make sure you watch Class Act He's trying to figure out if he want to be

Blade Brown or not I don't know I don't know I'm saying So what do you have to my phone I want to do you I'm playing with his friends Eight points Eight points career lows

A company game is eight points So I think They need to get their shit together When it comes to like managing Because what I seen last night, putting Cooper in that mid post, that Picky World midpost, where he can go right and make some moves, getting him in an opportunity to give a little iceos without having the ball and wasting dribbles, that's where he can really thrive. And, you know, he can do big things if they put him in position for it.

Jason Kitt said he wanted Cooper flag to handle the pressure of ball handling now. So come April, when they were in position to do something special, he'd be more acclimated to the league. Unfortunately, they are at the bottom. of the Western Conference right now. So they very well maybe on Chiligan's Island. Just blow it up, man. Yeah, I'm going to be honest with you.

I'm going to give Cooper a C-minus right now. C's good degrees. Just because, like, you know, he's 18. He's playing out of position, which is the point guard position, which is one of the hardest positions. But I think it's a good time for him right now with Kyrie out, you know, 80 and, you know, they could just, you know, wrap the season up. but I would just keep playing through Cooper Flagg just so that he can understand defenses,

develop in place, and I just think in the long, long term, it's going to help him offensively. So at 18 right now, you're running a one and make all the mistakes and, you know, learn the position, learn defenses, and you're playing, you're being coached by a top five point guard ever. So I don't, you know, I see this just getting better, just getting better for him to me. For me, um, Jason Key, you know, being a top five point guard, I don't know if you've seen point guard in them or not. You're supposed to have vision like that. But for me, I'll get Cooper flagged. I'm going to give him a B, B plus, probably a eight minus.

Damn. A B plus probably three different grade. You know that's three different grade. Like he's on the cuff. He's on the curve. Curve? Are we ready on a curve? Just because he's 18.

A big curve. No, not because he's 18. This is number one pick. That's a lot of pressure, they have games where you don't, dealing with the media and it still bounce back and still have good games, ups and downs of being a rookie,

especially being out of position for sure, trying to think about the team out there and think about scoring at the same time while being the number one pick, having all that pressure, but you're still trying to get everybody involved and added more pressure to you instead of just letting you play free out there.

Dealing with all that, I'm going to give him, I'm going to give him a B plus a minus just because he handled it. Not because the 18, just, shit. Professor Slate? He added pressure to him. Back. Yeah. What do you think about Cooper Flagg's season so far, and how would you grade him? I mean, would you have eight games?

Eight games didn't score in double digits once, right? Who? Flack? Yeah. Like, when you? Once. He scored twice, I believe. twice, I believe. Double digits?

Yeah. Yeah, his first game, he had a double double. Yeah, I said, didn't score in double digits. Only one. All but only one. Okay, okay. Okay. Just making sure. Yeah, the bad game, had a bounce back, right? Had 20 last night, right? Yeah, he's not, he's not VJ right now. You know, VJ's playing

amazing. So if that's A plus, then Cooper Fagg is probably A minus B plus. Right? When we say they experiment with him at the point, We're trying to pretend that he failed at doing something. What happened with him individually? Was he getting ripped?

Was he doing something wrong? No. He brought the ball up. He was doing what he was trying to do. And this is what his performance was, right? He's picking up, he's left. Like, he's doing, he's playing a all-around game trying to figure it out. The offense itself, that's another conversation, right?

They don't have the Kyrie. AD got out of there, right? The rest of the players can't dribble, right? That's on just the whole scenario itself, right? He put Dallas in the top line. PJ was dealing with doing what he's doing. Clay's playing horrible, right? So that's one outlet pass.

That's not happening. So you're playing limited to what the elements are. But saying that he failed that point guard, he didn't do it, like, I'm saying, like, what did you do wrong? Are you getting picked up full court? Are you turning that bitch over? Like, what are your plays that you are not making, right? Of course, you're not a traditional point guard

and making traditional point guard moves, but you're talking about a top five guard that is coaching him. When are we going to, we're questioning his decision now? He sees something that we can't see. He's seen the same thing in Janus, and the same thing people said about Janus shouldn't have the ball. Look at him now. He did the same thing with Janus.

Put the ball in his hand, let him come down heel. What? I mean, Yonis point. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Let Yonis come downhill. Everybody, oh, what is he doing? What is he doing?

Look at the man now. Unstopable because now he has the understanding of bringing the ball up, doing what he needs to do with his skillset. He just gave him another attribute in real time. The attribute that he's given to him is playmaking with the ball coming downhill instead of catching in this spot. Come down hill with the guy who's going to be guarding you. We're looking at this guy and look at him on the fast break. He's unguarded. Right?

I agree. He's faster than everybody who's really guarding him. He's left hand. He can jump. Now once he starts getting his handle under him, he can get it off the glass and go. So now he's our 0.3.4. And that's what the game is going. If he didn't fail, why he added somebody else to the lineup there?

For the team, what did he do wrong? What did he do? Take some of the stress off of those ball handling responsibilities. But they still failed and lost the game. The team is failing. They just, they don't have AD, they don't have Kyrie. So filling will be getting ripped. That's the only thing that makes you feel.

What are you looking for from him? Are you looking at him to be traditional point card? I don't think Jason Kidd said, I just want you to play a former position? I don't want you to be like me. This last game, he played forward. He looked like a promising prospect this last game. He looked promising. He looked promising before.

The rest of the games, he looked out of position. He looked like they were trying to make him fit into a piece. Which is what Jason Kidd said. We're trying to put him in these situations early, blah, blah, blah, blah. But when you put him in his natural element, he looked natural. It looked like this is the guy we drafted number one that can give us 20 a game. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying that they're not doing him justice by experimenting with his honest attributable.

So trying something different. Oh, he didn't? So trying something different for him? He was confidence. You see what he just said? I'm not used to losing like this. Imagine if he actually is in his right position for the first four games and they're in a better winning position. His confidence is different.

It's going to be AJ. It's going to be AJ in Flag Show next year. Number one pick again. It's confidence. We all know his confidence when you, especially as a rookie and you got a negative plus minus, your fucking field goal. The fucking field goal percentage is trashed And everybody looking at you like He can't handle the rock and all this shit

No one said he couldn't handle the rock But he can't handle the rock Nobody said nothing because they didn't Want to believe what they were seeing What the fuck is going on? Why is he bringing it up? 14-7 rebounds, three assists though 18 years old

This was they said when They said the same thing about Yannis No they did When Jason Kidd put him at the point And told him to get it and go They questioned it No, they fired Jason Kee. He fired him.

They didn't understand what he was doing. Because he don't know what the fuck you're doing. Then watch him grow and say, oh, shit, let him run the point. He's running the one now. So Jason Kidd made Yon is now. No. He helped his development. Yeah, not made.

Now, if you think of God, I mean, God made it, but you know. Now, now, no, no, no, now think about it. Now, think about it. I had ESP here come down there. Now, think about it. How Cooper flag plays, who does it actually looks like? Who is that the point? Grabbing the ball.

Doesn't it look like Yonis-Kalabrini? Doesn't it look like Yonis-Kalabrini? Yeah, Chris Kalabrini is bringing that bitch up. When Yannis first started playing the point, yeah, it was how we did. This is how we looked. It was, it was- I got my big explosive fast tower forward coming with the ball and his man is backtracking.

Yeah. That's an advantage. advantage for that position. Yeah. We don't know if we're going to put the five on it or the four on them. That's what that looks like. I just felt like. Jason Kidd was a visionary with Yannis, and he's doing the same thing with

Cooper Flag. I mean, because you could look at Yonnas even this year at the one. Making decisions smarter with the ball when they're picking up, like everything, bro. So look, Mavs don't have Kyrie, A.D. dealing with the calf issue missed three straight games. They are currently last in the Western Conference. He didn't want to play with it. Fourth worst record in the NBA right now.

But listen, but listen. They own their draft pick in the 2026 NBA draft. Or does it behoove him? They didn't freak out. To try to get... Did you say, fuck it? Oh, traded for AD probably was the worst NBA trade ever in NBA history. Fair assessment.

God bless Nico Harrison, though. I mean, I mean, I just, because it's like... 80s heard Kyrie's out. I'm just saying, you're looking at this squad right now. He can't be. Just making the playoffs do anything for them. Does it help repair their image with the fans? I don't think so.

But now you can get the pressure off of Kyrie and AD. This is a bunch of here. Take the pressure off AD. Both of. No, not Kyrie. Tyree, don't have to come back with no pressure. They're going to go east and whip through the east and then be back 50%. Bro, listen, that trade that they did for 80 is like...

The worst trade in NBA here? Yeah, it's like... They got a huge. It's like basically... They got the gold out of this. You just got Cooper. You got Cooper flag to return. What about it?

You got Cooper. I'm not that bad. No, that's like... But Paul George of the Clippers. No. We've seen it. Your reward for trading Luca was Cooper Flack. Yes.

That's like the Nets giving up their future for KG and Paul Pierce, and then Boston go ahead and get, you know, Jalen Brown and you see how that ends up. Well, Mr. B, I'm glad you mentioned that. Speaking of Jailen Brown, that's what we call a segue. Segway, Jay, have been practicing. Jaylon needs to snout. Jaylon needs to snoburn. Jaylon needs to do what he needs to do.

Over some questionable officiating, so it started after the Celtics loss of the jazz at home Monday night with a controversial no-call and valid. Having Brown and Jazz guard, Keante George. Let's take a look at the play and what happened good. We talked about this on our playback stream. So George fell to the ground late in the fourth quarter, subject's up one. George defending Brown fell to the ground, causing Brown to trip and lose possession. Jazz went on to score.

And kickball. That's a foul. Automatic foul. But I slipped. Automatic foul. You touched me. You're a reason I feel. So, Jeff, almost broke my damn to do it.

You get your clumsy ass up. You get your in his way. You know what I'm saying? It's an automatic file. You're not in defensive position and contact. Contact for sure. You don't remember Chris Paul? Like somebody fell over there.

He'll run all the way over there and run it. Yes, he would do that. Get you your fifth and six foul. Yeah, no damn serious. For sure, he used to do that guy. No call. Jazz grabbed the ball, took the lead, went on to win the game. So Brown had this to say after the no call.

Man, y'all going to get me fines because. You can't make, you can't have a mistake like that as an official at that point in the game. It's fourth quarter, it's a minute left in the game or less, and you completely, the whole stab blows the fucking call. You know what I mean? It costs us a game, like unacceptable. You can make mistakes at any point at a game, but right there, that wasn't good. That wasn't good. That's unacceptable.

And then they're telling me like, oh, like, we didn't see it. Like, none of you see it. You can't trip somebody in the fourth quarter. and then just be a no-call. It's some bullshit. Three of them on the court. Now, obviously, Jaylon Brown made those comments, expecting to get some of his bread impacted by that.

But thankfully for Brown's pockets, the league opted not to find him for his comments while acknowledging the officiating error. But on Tuesday, Brown was on his Twitch stream, went in further on his issues with NBA officiating. Let's take a listen. We all know who play basketball and watch basketball that certain players get a certain whistle

or a certain call or emphasized in a certain way. this is an integral issue for me we don't it we talk about it but we don't we don't go into detail of why or how it's so obvious that certain players maybe it's for marketing reasons maybe it's for you know other reasons i don't know you know but the game of basketball should be your job is to make the call regardless of a player regardless of its size regardless of his stature regardless of, you know, how many Instagram followers he got or regardless of who he signed with. Now, I'm not saying that this is coherently going on in the issue.

I'm just saying that in my tenure, and these are conversations that I've had both publicly and privately, you know, behind closed doors, being the vice president, talking about the official, how it affects the outcome of the game, you know, and I get, like, it's a business, So we want to call certain things or call certain things for certain players so that, you know, the game is more exciting or certain players. The numbers look a little bit better, and it just increases the revenue for everybody. I get that 100%.

When we talk about some of the integral issues of our game, some of this stuff, it goes beyond. And once again, I'll say this again to make sure it's clear. I'll never in question like if the NBA is rigged or if there's integrity issues X, Y, Z, but there are conversations that need to be had. So

lengthy but very interesting. Do you understand Brown's frustration with NBA officiating? I know he's going to get fined. There's a pecking order around this mug, okay? There is. All right? People come to see certain people and you're just not going with your statute

just try to bully people okay um there is what he's saying is correct certain people get certain calls superstars get superstar calls for sure all stars get all star calls rookie get rookie calls he knows that for sure because sometimes he's going to get away with murder because of his name what he has done if he's playing against a rookie or someone don't have his name in stature he's going to be able to get away with a lot of calls right we can all agree that call they missed unacceptable that's a foul

they need to know their rule book whoever that is if that's a veteran over three to four years and he does not know that defensive rule and that gray area call that's his problem it could have been one a foul or a kickball because it did hit his foot right either one of those

kick their ball but when it comes to the integrity of calls if I make three-time All-Star and I'm a Weston A I'm going to get the calls over you. Just like him this year is the number one option doing his damn job.

He has more free throws this year than he has in the past. So he's getting that whistle a little bit more than he did before. Right? That is a Jalen Brown jersey. He's not Jaylon Brown. Yeah.

So he's getting the calls a little bit more than, right? They're going to get used to it. He is in that light and that work he's going to get the 10, 15, 20 calls on a style he plays. He can't use the one instance of them messing this up. Right, right, right. But I know from when he plays against Luca, when he plays against certain players, they're going to favor. He's not going to be able to bully Seth Curry the way he wants to, right?

Luca LeBron. Who else out there? He's going to want Brown? Brown. I mean, there's only a few players. that overrinks him. You said, bully? Yeah, where he can just

try to play that real tough defense, right? For the most part, he's a defensive player, so they give him the benefit of the doubt. You know what he's talking about. You know, they're going to give him the benefit of the doubt. You know how certain players. Back to the championship game. No, no, no, no, I'm just saying, period.

Like, there's only going to be Ant Man, they're going to let him and Ant Man go at his old. You know what I mean? There's just certain players that he's going to have the advantage of, and there's only like four or five that he's going to have. But the rest of the team, like, you've got to earn your stripes.

Because you talk about superstars earning your stripes. So Mr. B., I know, Doc Rivers recently talking about Janus and the whistle that Yonis gets, and they said the refs told him, well, Janus is bigger and stronger. So you've got to be able to play through. That's another thing too. That's the same. Yeah, I mean, that's basically it. It's a check.

They got the check. It's a check. Jack LeBron, boogie cousins, Dwight Howard, right? You know, that's why if you're stronger than everyone, right, they're not going to give you the benefit of doubt. Even though you're getting fouled, they're not going to, right? So I can foul. I can,

I can file Shod way more than he can foul me. For sure. If he tries to post up, I can put my knee in there and try to hold them off, and they're going to let me do that. If I'm posting him up and he tries to stand me up, they're going to say, file. So there's things that guards, skinnier guys can get away with versus the bigger guy. I hear y'all, but I don't think that's what he's talking about. Shaw, what do you think Jalen Brown is talking about?

The shit that if you garden Austin Reeves, You guard Luca and you guard certain guys to get that whistle, not because of their name, it's because of the whole, hey, I can throw my egg, not giving us a fair whistle. When you look at that play, you say, okay, we know that that's supposed to be a foul. He's talking about the integrity of the game and why the reps are not respecting the integrity of the game on a consistent basis. When y'all are picking and choosing when you want to blow the whistle based on time and score, we're talking about outcome of game.

plus minus who's what and what and that's what he's saying he's saying i ain't saying NBA rigged but tie game 44 seconds to go no call they win the game it's Utah ain't no all-stars over there fuck y'all giving him the call for it's weird it's a lot of things like that that's been happening like he said since his tenure he's been watching trying to figure out Why the refs are doing the shit that they're doing? Like, they got another Tim Donnie out there. And a member of the Players Association, the VP, you know, said he's spoken to the lead behind closed doors about this

and now wanted to bring it to light on his Twitter. He gets away with most shit than anybody. He do, he do. So I don't even know why he's. So you're getting 20 free. So why you, I mean, because of why you tripping? Because the game, hey. Well, you know what?

I mean, Luke out? What? No, no, no, no, no, no, what I'm saying is, no, no, no what I'm saying is, why wasn't he completely? playing in the finals when he's a guard in Luca. I'm sure they would let them do whatever he wants. But that's what I'm saying. It's one thing that's trying to trigger it all.

Right? It's one play. We agree. It happens. That don't suppose to happen. The LeBron play. There's three people watching. The LeBron in Boston.

That happened. Right? These are, we've seen an obvious, yo, that's a foul. Oh, oh, the Lake. Oh, yeah. Right? That's a, like, whoa. How are we missing these type of calls and these type of.

moments once a year but this one this one I don't have to be we're not answering to the integrity of why y'all making these bad cause and there's no consequence to it with all the replays and stuff too okay okay okay okay I don't even have to I don't even have

to be watching if the ball is here he's asking you what the fuck are you all watching if I have the ball y'all are seeing none of y'all see this is not down there right three of them two of y'all are One is right here. One is back here. One is down. You two are watching this ball.

In real time. I don't have to watch it. I can see boom, slip, fall. Automatic foul because you're in illegal defensive position. That's an automatic whistle. Brefts don't like to make calls. But that's an automatic whistle. That's not a judgment call. Yeah, that's not a judgment call. No, that's not. This is not one of these. This is not one of those. This is one guy out of position defensively. You're not leaving it up to the rep. And there's contact. Look at it again.

That's a fault. It's contact. You're not allowed to have contact on the ball. He's illegal. Okay. He lived here. But he's not here. If you get a rebound and a nigger fall on the ground underneath.

And I fall over you. And you fall off. That's a foul. Automatically. Automatically. It's automatically. You're not in position. You can fall right there.

Fall and hurt you. You can be doing this. If I run over you, and I'd be like, I was doing the same thing. And I can run you out. For a game, I don't know if I'm calling that. What I'm saying is you're on the floor. I don't know if I'm calling that for game. That's what I'm saying.

And the reps hate being in that situation. Say that again. For a game? You wouldn't do what? I don't know if I'm calling that. Jalen Brown, you just got your answer. The reason these referees are not consistent is because they're not AIs. They're a human being.

There's only one idea. Meaning, we all have different opinions on how we're going to rep this game. We all see the rule book, right? What I'm saying is we interpret how we want to. So when he said he wouldn't make that call, I'm saying I would. If he's repting that, obviously you're not going to get that. There's a hundred referees that's doing it their way. That's fair.

Some people like score, like, I'm pretty sure if he's reffing, he's going to let a little bit more bullying go through. He's going to let a little bit more hacking go play, right, right, right, right, meaning you're going to be finesse. We know every foul. It's going to be the most foul. That's a foul. That's a foul. I'm more finesse. Don't touch him.

Don't touch him. Don't touch him. That doesn't say. Good job. Don't touch me. And that's what players don't understand is, just like us, we're all different players. These are all different reps, refing the game on how they see it. But they got to be in hell.

They got to do something. The people got to know. You got to take the bias out of it. You got to, they can't make a call, no call, and then just live their life. That's the all. Yeah. That's the frustration. Yeah.

That's the frustration. Because they get penalized, we don't see it. We think there's a problem. I think the NBA actually stop already and just tell. He got a $500 fine. He got a thousand dollar fine. That takes away the thought of it being real. You are doing it to yourself by holding it.

We see these three fucked up. We see who would. Just say, these two got a $500 fine. Everybody would be like, okay, cool. I don't think it's a fine, though. They take them off the games that are paid. They're paid games that they take off. But it's just showing.

If you get money for this next game, you ain't on this game and this game. That might be, that might be said, I'll pay right there. Because you're saying the example for us. He got fined, which means, okay, he may not say that again. Same thing. I got fine. The players are like, okay, shit, he won't do that again. Yeah, yeah.

And now the integrity of the game won't be questioned because we know there's penalties. But this is why they changed that. That's what the replay is. The replay was brought in to cover their asses based on the bad calls that they used to make that we couldn't change. Now, we can go back and change these calls. You can't change that play. That play. Well, it's under a minute.

It's under a minute. It's under a minute. It's under a minute. But you think about it. about what I'm saying. If you can replay and you got it wrong, you didn't call it. And inside this play, we replay, and I can call a whole other foul and make up for that. I don't like that either. That part right there allows me to not actually be a bad ref because now I missed the call and I can make up for it in the same breath. But I can't do nothing with that. I don't like that. Like, I think it's no call. Yeah. Yeah. But what I'm what he's saying is I don't like that. You're looking for this. It went out on him.

Right? Yeah. And then you see a holding over here and then you call that holding a holding. Oh yeah. Like, man, wait, hold on, I wasn't part of that. Like, don't, don't. And that's what we think we're sick. We think we're sick.

I was holding them off when we got rebrand. He's like, nah, no, no, that's a foul on you. Try to make themselves. But they pull you over for a broken tail light. If I call, if I call out on white, that's what I'm looking for you. Yeah. If you hold it, if you hold on the real. They do something like a block or a foul on you?

And they can call holding on somebody else. They can change the call and say, in the jersey in the back. That wasn't your call. I'd never seen that. Yes, bro. You could actually look outside to play. That's outside of the play.

I didn't know you could go outside to play. I didn't know that. That's a thing. Especially in times like this where everyone's questioning, I think they should just come out and just say, listen, this play right here, they were wrong. They got it wrong. This is a foul, right?

We took them off one game, right? Cool. Because we know you're going to, we know you're going to file Julian Brown for what he's saying. We know that. But I'm saying we know we're going to know that. So we need to know this. So people won't question you guys in this time.

Right, right. That's PR. Clear yourself. Crisis management at that point. You got to cover. It's going to be stars. Make them do interviews after. Let people ask them questions.

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, you're going to be the star. I actually like that. We can question them about the call. Like the call in third quarter. They do actually do that. They have a full report with the crew treat.

And you're going to have that one. particular plays in the game, they'll come and ask him after the game and bring that up. Can we see it, but not on camera. It ain't no camera, that's what I'm saying. I'm like, yeah, the press conference type of shit. They were like, why didn't you call? Why didn't you call? I mean, the murder he was doing with his hair line out here.

You know what I mean? He's out here doing all this, marking up the court, marking our jersey. The least we can do is why. Well, speaking up his murder, his hair line. You got a rest start doing that and start trolling. There's, there's, there's going to be in a feeling. Oh, no, the league is at a guy, I don't know. He doesn't have to get off steroids, I might want to make the call.

Oh, but legally, he had an all-time-bye. Yeah, we got another good segue. Speaking of a murderous hairline, so Jalen Brown made history and the Celtics win over the Wizards Wednesday night in two different ways. So after putting up 35 points, five boards, and five dimes of just 26 minutes of action, Brown is the first Celtic ever to record such a game in under 30 minutes of play. But that performance was overshadowed by his fake airline, claiming another victim. Let's take a look if we can.

So this time it was Wizard's second year forward. Kishon George, who was in disbelief after noticing the stain on his undershirt, George now becomes at least the third victim of Brown's fake hairline, joining O.J. Ananobe and Ron Holland. So after the clip went viral, Brown had this to say, the AI is getting. At least he's having fun with it, man. He should have fun with it.

He should do it every game. He should do it every game. It's his mark. Man, lead your mark, bro. Do your mark on the game, baby. I'm not bad at it now. Why don't it was in George? George trying to look at him.

Like, come on, man. He put his head down. Beijing strikes. Man, I would have win right back. Yeah. Fuck it. I mean, at this point, I mean, like, he's having fun with it, so, you know what I mean? He's not taking the serious.

He knows. You thought he was having fun with it? Not the first time. Probably not the first time. No, at this point. He's having fun with it, but he really trying to save that line. Brother, but we know what he's trying to say because he keeps putting it on. But the fact that we know at this point

you can just not go out there with it on The fact that you keep putting it on Let you know I don't care I don't care I don't care I'm not going to put a head bar I'm not going to put a headband on no nothing Y'all don't get this work

You go get 35 and the headmark Y'all go get this mark If he can't put a headband on If it leaks like that Huh If it leaks like that on people He can't wear a headband You got to leave your mark

Swart like headband Black black black black You got to leave your mark Listen he ain't the first one to wear Beijing in the game Trust me. Every game. You spraying your head every game?

Uh-huh. That's sick. He got it. He got the ones. He got it. He got it, but every game, you get making sure you spray. Make it look nice. Make it look nice.

Don't eat things twice. But it was. Got that cat here. Miao. It's light. You got light up there. Y'all know when it gets light up there and start looking like that pout. Damn.

No, he should keep going. No, he got to keep going. That kitty cat. I use the hair fibers myself. No, seriously. He should make his own baby. No, seriously, he should. I have had Jay said give you the little fill in as well.

Brown? You can use real hair fiber, my niggins. You can use real hair, my nigga. Name brown. You can make it look like it's real hair. Mr. Brown. Get the fat boots. Well, let's talk about one thing briefly before we wrap up this show today and for the weekend.

Shout out to you guys. Two glorious days of Gilzorina presented my underdog. Woo-woo. We got a salute. L.A. legend, a man known as Hust Westside. So Russell Westbrook found new life with the Kings this season. Wednesday night, the former MVP made some history.

Let's take a look at the highlights if we can, please. The game was missing some star power with Steph, Jimmy Butler, and Draymond out for the Warriors and some bonus is Zach Levine sideline for the Kings. But we had Russell Westbrook. Westbrook finished with 23 points, 16 rebounds and 10 assists going 9 to 13 from the field, three for four from deep in 35 minutes. Westbrook's 204th career triple double, which extends his NBA record and he finished the game with 8,734 career rebounds moving him

past Jason Kidd for the most by a guard in NBA history ladies and gentlemen this is Russell Westbrook however you feel about him show him his love Chris love show your love give me get some smoke for Huss West Side the smoke the smoke machine looking a little light girl I'm just gonna be on it west west y'all west west so after the game Russ took the time to give himself a little bit of praise humbly speaking i'm the best rebounding guard ever so when the ball come across the room i'm gonna get it you said uh you know greatest rebound and point guard ever i'm i'm curious who uh when you feel like you claim that title and and who in history

you feel like is like kind of up there with you when you feel like i claim it yeah i don't know what What does the stats say? I don't know. Huh? You never want. Huh? Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Uh. Uh. Honestly, I didn't even know that I was, it was tonight.

I need to get that game ball because somebody get it from me. Okay, cool. I need that. Well, Westbrook. Too late now. Westbrook showed him the old face. Oh. Who did.

The Westbrook started four games for the Kings this season, averaging 19 points, 10 rebound, six assists with 53, 50, 89, shooting splits in those starts. Unfortunately, Kings are one and three, and that span three and five this season. But the dad is neither here nor there, ladies and gentlemen, Russell Westbrook. I don't even know why you bring it up. Gil, I'm a man of context and purpose. They're even coming at me a lot lately. What are you going to do about it?

What the fuck are you going to do about it? I'm waiting. He's going to be quiet and see your ass next week. I'm gonna sit here very quietly. Be a good house name, bro. Be a good house name, grow. You're supposed to know he motherfuckers, man. And wait for the direct deposit to hit the account.

I know who your daddy is now. No, daddy is not approving of this shit. We're going to go to the car and get our other guns. Like, fight back, Joe. We could go get our other gun, but Gil has more guns, so. No, I don't. No guns. I'm a felon.

This is Raymond. This is not allowed to have no weapon. You're a felon? When I write to my P.O., do you have weapons? No. Westbrook. You got to check the felony? Westbrook.

Okay. Back to Westbrook. And I always put no. I don't identify as that. Shout out to the great state of California. Is Westbrook proven he can still play at a high level in the league? Man. Yeah, for sure.

For sure, man. I think even this coming into this year when he didn't get picked up by a team, he had a lot of chip on his shoulder. He's playing himself into another contract. You know, if you ask me, I'm happy for him. I'm happy for him, man. Just keep going. Keep going, bro. No matter what anybody says about you.

For real, keep grabbing on balls, boy. The way he says he's number one at grabbing balls. The best ball grabber. The best ball grabber. Where's Hollywood, what, Russ, baby? Not a name I've ever heard. He's number one at grabbing balls, baby. He said, getting rebounding.

That's the same thing. You got to grab the ball. Yeah. He's in a beat. But he didn't, you change. He said, ask him. Ask him about me. I grab that ball.

I've been grabbing balls since I started. God damn it. God damn it. Shit. He was trying to be sick. Sit. Fuck. Nick.

Now we know why he's homeless. I like being homeless. I ain't homeless. That's why I got to ask the chat if anybody had any rooms available. Yeah, man. Shit. Hey, can I use your eye?

I got some places to go after this. These shit's kind of wrinkled. I just need the iron. You brought two pair of pants. Because I got a hoodie, you know, I got white beaders in the car. I don't really need too much. But you need an iron. She doesn't need to see me.

So quick before we take off, Shod, we talked in the arena before about where Westbrook ranks in the goat PG debate. So before the season started, you offered your thoughts on the app formerly known as Twitter, now known as X. Say, no debate after a deep dive into the game of basketball. Russell Westbrook is the greatest point guard of all time. Ooh. And it ain't even close. Exclamation point, exclamation point. Try me.

Exclamation point, exclamation point. You treated that? September 15th, the year our Lord, 2025 at 3.50 p.m. There's a random music. Did anything spurn that on? Just 3.50. I was with some work. Okay, to work.

I was not distracted at the time. He's definitely not fine. I'm standing on my 10. Why is Russell Westbrook the greatest point guard of all? And he's top 10 in almost all the point guard categories. And he said he's the number one rebounding. He's about to be the number one scoring. You got to argue me, bro.

I mean, damn, the only thing is going to stop him from really being in consideration as a championship. He's not stopping any time soon. So I think if he's chased like CP chasing, you know what I'm saying? He'll get there. And there's people see CP in front of him and all these other guys. And after doing the deep dive, it's just like, you know,

rest outside of his. aggression and his passion for the game, he's always played the game the right way. And you say, all right, he don't got no jumper. He can't shoot it like X, Y, Z. And it's like, but man, do he need to? To the average three straight double doubles, I mean, triple doubles? Three straight triple doubles, four triple doubles. Number one, no, without a champ, a ring?

Statistically. I got up top five for sure. You know what I'm saying? Because, you know, statistically we put. Brian at the top. Statistically, he's 40,000, 50,000. He's got to be able. But four rings as well?

Four MVP. Questionable. But, you know. Four finals MVP? You know. Who was in front of him? He's only begot. Who?

Point guards? Oh, Stap, the greatest point guard ever. Mr. Visi, you don't, you don't agree with... That's hard. It's hard. I don't know. Wester Russberg, greatest point card ever. I mean, statistically, he's top ten in like five different categories.

Based on the numbers for each. individual performance just one-on-one based on the stats that Westbrook you got stuff one-on-one I don't think Steph is top ten in any of those categories that's not playing the game against the King word on street he was ducked instead of just three points I mean if it's only like two points I mean Steph is a top-10 player at all time so yeah I mean I don't care about no goddamn categories no stat now I don't care about that because you like rings you like winners so yeah I'm surprised somebody who hasn't won

the ring is in I said statistically I didn't say overall statistically he's the greatest like LeBron statistically he's the greatest he don't touch the other guy I see doing some extensive exhaustive research yeah I was just saying how many more points did he need to jump Oscar Robinson for that spot so it looks like he needs about 890 more points which he will get he takes number one in scoring and rebounding as a guard and then he's top ten and and assists, right? So when you're arguing, he gets the, like if there's point guards like John Stockton

and you're talking about some of those type of guys, even Chris Paul, right, top five, he can argue he's in front of him because statistically he's won an MVP and he was a runner up a few times, like his personal dominance on this game is crazy, right? If we're going to say we all didn't win, cool. Then who's the best non-winner out of us and what we did? It becomes him. Because you're saying John, Chris, they both in top five. You got me on assist, but I got you on a rebounding.

This, that, triple doubles, MVP. John Stockton can't ever say he was the most valuable player in this league. Westbrook, there's 386 more points to pass Oscar Roberts. Oh, yeah, 300. 300 more. $386. See, he'll get that this year. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

He'll probably get that this year and then probably retired. So you see how he was just popping his shit on the rebounds. Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. Just wait. Come on, man. Stop fucking with Russ. Man.

I was boozy. I got him definitely over. I got him top five, for sure. He's definitely. Yeah, he's top five. For sure, top five. Right, I mean, it's at this point. You got to redo your list.

Yeah, you got. You got to say, but holding on to the, especially if you got people in there that don't have rings. If you're going to use rings, then use rings. But then if you got somebody in the top of five that don't have rings. There's only two points in front of them. First of all, Steph and Magic. And, Isaiah, back.

If they try to put Isaiah, I mean, you know. But they put that's not statistically. That's not statistically. That's not statistics. But if you put their careers, you take away team success, then you're talking about individual who is more dominant. You can't put Isaiah over here. But they will.

I mean, they will because of the two, I'm telling you. But those two championships did him. Remember, he was the guard that didn't have the big man, didn't have that. He did that himself. If we're going career point guard, that's a four. He did that himself. George won once they left. Once they left.

I still got Russ four or JK at five. You got Jason Kitt over? Five. I got Russ four because I got, you know, you got to go staff magic. Like, you know, like, if you're a point guard and you're looking at, you're looking at, I got on top three. If you're point and you're looking at points. guards, then he won't be in that category because then that's all visionary type of

people, right? You know, like playing a point, like him and Jason kid making those passes very different. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it all depends on how you like your, you know, I mean. I'm just saying Jake, I love to play themselves and their stats, a different conversation. Nobody thought they was going to see this out of UCLA. I think everybody did. When you go to UCLA, there's expectations that are put on you.

He was three big. He was like, no, they said dudes was ducking. workouts when he was when he had one because he went to when they were when they were nobody wanted to work out with being top 10 and three categories is insane and then having a triple double record four years straight this insane come on man you got it so much they start saying step and on that note let's move messed them up let's move to mostly fans presented by our friends of the underdog new to underdog used co-gill get $100 of bonus entries when you play your first $5 entry win or lose so we got

One question from underdog user, Vento said, was there ever a player you tried to get your team to trade for or a player that was close to being traded to your team that would have had a big impact? What you say it again? Was there ever a player you tried to get your team to trade for or a player that was close to being traded to your team that would have had a big impact?

Yep, it would have been me and Steph Curry back court in Milwaukee. I mean, got y'all ass, what? Wait, too little. Man, Steph Curry. It was out there. It was going to trade for. Who y'all was going to trade for? Was it Bogut?

It's step on and step at the time. Yeah, yeah. I'm talking about early, though. But, yeah, it was Bogot and I think someone else. You. They wasn't going to trade me. It was going to trade me. They wasn't going to trade me, niggum.

They wasn't going to trade me. You had 55. You had 55. They were trading our point guard for a point guard. I know that's not be funny, but seriously, no. We're going to have two point guards on the same team. Don't, don't. You were Boget.

Same weight, same height, playing. I swear to God, they were. Who's going to, who was going to guard? Back to, who was going to be going on when he had Monta? Yeah. Monti was still in the Warriors. Yeah, Monti was there, yeah. They were going to do the trade for that.

Because they could, they had to, they had to figure out between him and Monti. They had a pick. Who are you going to trade? We had Bogot at the time. Okay, Bogot. And they needed a big. So we're taking the big? Yeah, Mike Red.

Yeah, it was supposed to be a whole thing. I'm just saying, for real. Has there ever been a thing? But we end up getting to Little Gorres. They ain't never been a thing. They ain't never been a thing. No, so y'all got to get a Monti trade. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, we made them.

Oh, you know that year? Yeah, Vermont. Is that the year Bogot left? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So the reason why they didn't trade Steph because of his ankle at the time, members, they didn't know.

So that's the only reason why Steph didn't come. It was supposed to be. Y'all didn't make, y'all didn't accept it or going to state didn't? No, we didn't want because of his ankle. Oh, y'all didn't want him because of his ankle. Yeah. But they wanted to, they offered him, yeah. Ah.

But if Steph didn't have the ankle thing, that was for sure. So they were like, okay, we could, yeah, Monte? We'll take Monta? No. No, no, they was going to keep Monta. Remember because... No, no, no, no. What I'm saying is, but so...

This is a true story, Mr. B. Yes, that's all. Yeah. Very true story. There's no cap in your rep. No, I forgot Monti did so that... I thought it was Monti was having issues with them. He had an injury.

He didn't tell them about something happened with them. Ooh, that'd have been crazy, though. That would have been crazy. That would have been an early bucks and six. AI coming to Minnesota. Before he went to Denver. He was having that conversation with a ticket. It would have been interesting.

Would he still have snagged up? TGI Fridays would have been lit. About most snow. Shit, mellow coming to L.A., I think. I'm glad he didn't, though. From Denver? No, from New York. Oh, shit.

Last for now least. Good word. Um... What was the question? Let me clear my throat. Yeah. Who was that really excited? Was there ever a player you tried to get your team to trade for a player that was close to being traded to your team that would have had a big impact?

I don't... I don't... Because we was all young. He was all young, so he wasn't trying to really break up the team. Did you try to get Larry Hughes or something like that? Get him back? Yeah. I don't know.

I can't think of no names. Most of the people, we were just trying to get fillers. It was me. Yeah, we were trying to get... I don't remember any names that went... You said, get Nick. I know we were trying to get rid of niggas. See, bitch.

Yeah, we were took anything, right? You know, I think we tried to make it. We did have a trade with the Lakers in. No, not with you. It was waiting for you. Okay. I remember they tried to trade the bill. Yeah, we tried to get, it was, we wanted two sign, Kobe Bryant shoes.

Two sides. Yeah, we were just like, we'll give you all Kwame Brown. You give us two. sign Kobe Bryant's shoes. They said, hell no, that's too much. Um, so they say, how about this? We'll just give you through the phone.

Oh, you have a... Hello? Hello? Hello? We just... We're just, no, no, no. Worth too much. Like, that's it.

We'll give you Karam Berler and Chuck Yackis. If you ever want to do business, you know, at this point, we don't want this motherfucker y'all have. Hey, yeah, with two airplanes. It's like, how much y'all go sign? Shit, we got about 26 year, 25 million, three years two. We got, the niggas were, the niggas worth $25 million.

He's seven foot, 25 million. They said 25 for a seven footer. We said yes. Damn, man. Then on that note. Seven foot 25? I appreciate you to everybody in the chat. 20, listen, you know how cheap a seven footer is.

25, they was paying $65 million for someone who average three and three coming off the base. The backup. The backup side for, Tyson, Chandler, signed for $54 million, and he didn't start. 65 million, and he wasn't a starter. On that note, appreciate you to everybody in the chat. Oh, that nigga was a bump.

Appreciate you to everyone on this couch. This has been another episode of Gilz Arena, represented by underdog. We'll see y'all next week.