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Starting point is 00:00:35 We're back in the studio. Welcome back to Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa! Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! Good to be home for everybody bitching. Damn, can we take a little break? It was our weekend break, too. But fans back, Gil back.

Starting point is 00:00:50 Hold on, Gil, hold on. Let me check your neck real quick. Hold on. What you been doing? What you been on? You looking good. You looking real good out here. Let me check your neck.

Starting point is 00:00:58 Good crack, huh? Yeah. Got that good crack. Like them young rappers out here. Like them young rappers out here. Okay. Like them young rappers out here. But what's up, everybody? Appreciate y'all.

Starting point is 00:01:11 We already did the intro. We'll do them real quick again. This is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog. As always, we've got the legend Gilbert Arenas here with us. What he do? NBA champion in a world-swagging picnic. Gil's back in the building. I miss you. I miss you.

Starting point is 00:01:24 I'm talking to you baby We got the under six seconds now you know the rules for YouTube. We got the bully from Oak Cliff former number one pick Canyon Martin back on the couch and the one and only Cemetery Larry Rashad McCants back here with us

Starting point is 00:01:41 So before the all-Star break, we did the first ever Gills Arena All-Star Draft with Gil, Canyon, Rashad, and Brandon selecting teams with the combined points, rebounds, and assists from each team determining the winner.

Starting point is 00:01:55 So, now the game has been played. Cemetery Larry, you came in first place. Me? Oh, you won. With a combined score of 106. Me? Yes, you. He won?

Starting point is 00:02:04 The champion. Damn, I remember you was talking crazy like you had it. The champion's here. I did. I won? You did win. Again? I did.

Starting point is 00:02:11 Again. Again. Again? Me? That's crazy. No. No, not me. How much did I win?

Starting point is 00:02:18 Are you getting $1,000 from my underdog? $1,000. A whole $1,000. Do you know what I'm going to do with my $1,000? Lose it. See? Lose it. See? Lose it. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:02:29 I'm going to give it right back to him. I'm going to be generous anyway. Hey, he's going to give it right back to him. Are you going to share it with the couch? I'm going to share my bucks

Starting point is 00:02:35 with the couch. That's a good man. You're a man of the people. Shout out to Sean. I got 500. I'm going to give it to Brandon, Nick, Gil, Josiah, and Kenyon

Starting point is 00:02:43 so they can try to win some money. Okay. So they can't win with meiah and Kenya so they could try to win some money Okay, so they can't win with me or against me. They could try to win on their own Okay, let's figure it out. Well, I'm just here so tell on the dog to give you 100 100 100 It's Christmas Day today. It is Christmas came a little early in the arena Gil you came in second place. Mm-hmm You had a combined score of 92. Mr. B came in third with 67. Who messed up for you? No, I dare you. He had six.

Starting point is 00:03:10 No, so Bron didn't play. All five of his players was in the championship game. Mm. Except for one guy. Yeah, so what happens is Steph was popping, right? Who else? You got Kyrie hit some shots for him. He was MVP, right? Who?

Starting point is 00:03:30 Kyrie. No, no, Steph. Wimby started going in. So everybody was contributing. And then motherfucker didn't play Sangoon. Had me pissed, man. Why would you play him in that game? No, I just rebound, like rebounds.

Starting point is 00:03:44 A little rebound here and there. A little outlet pass here. You needed everything. Why would you play them in that game? No, because, no, I just, rebound, like, rebound. Oh. A little rebound here and there, a little, you know, a little outlet pass here. You needed everything. So as part of the agreement... Well, none of my players do none of that shit. No, no, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. Them motherfuckers suck.

Starting point is 00:03:56 In all of our games. Young punks. Young punks. Young punks. As a part of the agreement, the loser has to wear the winner's jersey for an episode, which will be at some point this week, so... Nobody wants to wear McCann's jersey, man.

Starting point is 00:04:13 You can't lose, so you don't have to wear that type of shit. It's vintage. I could've took a picture. A man of the people, if he knew his word, would be rocking that. Remember that day you wore that trans board? That shit was nasty on you. That shit navy blue and green with trees on it.

Starting point is 00:04:32 Ew! We are back in the arena. It was good to be home. Shout out to San Francisco, though. Y'all held it down. No one on the crew got robbed, I don't think. Nobody? We good? All their possessions? Good. Shout out to the city. Robbed them all the time. Shout out to the city I'll do my time for taking care of the good folks ahead and see Adidas Nike Foot Locker for blessing me with these shoes And under Armour as well. Mr. B gentlemen see you

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Starting point is 00:05:16 Best game as a Laker helped the Purple and Gold snap the Nuggets' nine-game winning streak. How will the Lakers' offense improve Luka serving as the primary playmaker? Shout out to Luka. Somebody bring my diaper. I didn't bring the diaper and the baby. We was burping that serving. Oh, man. Damn.

Starting point is 00:05:38 You had to put three people on him. You had to put three people on him. He was a big baby. You had to put three people on him. Hey, whatever. was a big baby. You had to put three people on him. Hey, whatever. Two for seven. What, he let y'all out the crib now? Y'all not on the nipple no more?

Starting point is 00:05:52 We grown now. Y'all not on the nipple no more? Your rug rats. We grown now. Oh, now y'all on formula. Y'all got off the nipple. Now you on formula. You're different now.

Starting point is 00:06:01 You're on regular milk now. Now I'm walking. You're on regular vitamin D milk. Now you're... You just learned how to walk. That's it. Steph and the Warriors hit the Mavs with the night-night in Jimmy Butler's home debut to improve to 5-1 in their last six games.

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Starting point is 00:08:23 We appreciate y'all. We're trying to get to a gillion subs. Help us get there. So let's get into it. We haven't been back in the arena since the All-Star game. So let's talk about it real quick. NBA rolled out a new mini-tournament format featuring three teams of All-Stars and the Rising Stars winners. Needless to say, fans and players weren't feeling it.

Starting point is 00:08:41 There was a little over 30 minutes of actual game action in the three-hour TV window. The game turned it into a Kevin Hart stand-up special. Mr. Beast got some love as well. It's a lot of influence, a lot of other stuff going on. Shout out to Drewski as well. Viewership was nasty to say the least. Second least watched game in the event's history, just beating out the 2023 game and viewership was down 13% from the 2024 game. So after the game, KD took to Twitter to clap back at fans for all the bitching that's been going on lately. KD had to clap back on him. He said, I think it's more fun to complain about the NBA than to actually watch it. Crazy. Cancel

Starting point is 00:09:14 All-Star weekend and let's just give everybody a break since we're so miserable around this time. So naturally, people had some thoughts on this tweet. And when one person responded by telling KD just how terrible the All-Star game was, Durant offered this follow-up. He said, quote, I get it. My point is, fans complain about everything. Like, nothing is good enough for the fans right now. Only thing they enjoy is playoffs, trade deadline, free agency, and

Starting point is 00:09:36 when players beef with each other. LOL. So, we were in San Francisco All-Star weekend. Did some great shows out there. You guys saw the game. I already see your face. KD spitting or tripping. You didn't watch it? No. I was in the airport.

Starting point is 00:09:49 I watched a little bit. Shout-out to the Oakland airport. I was not impressed. There's nothing to say about the show. It got me home. The plane landed safely. Yeah, I didn't like the... I thought the format was gonna be BS from the beginning, so it turned out to be that from what I'm hearing, so I'm, I didn't like the format. I thought the format was going to be BS from the beginning.

Starting point is 00:10:05 So it turned out to be that from what I'm hearing. So I'm glad I didn't watch it. You saved yourself three hours, can't you? Absolutely. To watch 30 minutes of basketball. Save myself. Did you hear what you just said? It could be better.

Starting point is 00:10:17 Save myself three hours to watch 30 minutes of basketball. 30 minutes of all-star game basketball. I think it could be better if they, like, instead of doing the Rising stars, they do what I think Gil was saying. Get the players that almost made it. The snubs. The snubs.

Starting point is 00:10:33 And some, you know, some fan favorites and play them against. I think that would be better. That's fucking disgusting. That's disgusting too. If you're a snub, why would you want to, if you already got. Yeah, why would you. Why would I come? You didn't make the all-star team.

Starting point is 00:10:52 But they're going to call you the snub team. Shit, I don't know. The almost made it team. I was almost good enough to be an all-star team. Make it more. I might make it next year team. Expand it. You got to expand it to more people. That shit was terrible, man.

Starting point is 00:11:09 I think the concept could have been better, though. Go back to motherfucking East versus West. Stop all that other shit, man. Let them dudes wear their own uniforms like they used to. And when that shit was fun, man, you represent your own team. You represent your... Like, let's go back to that shit. I got a question. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:11:29 NBA's a product, right? It is a product of some sort. All right, so are the fans, they get an opportunity to do customer review? Uh... Yeah. Right? They get to place their review on the product that they've been... And so KD don't like the reviews.

Starting point is 00:11:46 No. Um... It's different. It's different. He doesn't... He said, he said, the fans complain about everything about the product that they are receiving. I'm gonna complain about what I don't like.

Starting point is 00:12:02 But... If I'm paying for it, I have the right to fucking complain about it. But this is what I'm saying. If he's not correcting the reason I'm complaining, which is usually customer service, customer review, all that shit, how do we make your experience better? Play harder, nigga. But who's to say you can't play harder, though? How can you pay for playing that? The customers.

Starting point is 00:12:22 But people just like drama. No, we want to see basketball that we're not seeing. People's not going to talk good. We used to see... No, that's not it, Nick. You know what it is. Did you see the clip from 2013 All-Star game? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:12:33 Clip. The clip. Clip. But what the dude was doing... I can go to this game and put a clip in, make it look like it was going hard. No, I'm saying, no, just one person made it interesting. By playing hard. He just picked the dude up, the other really good basketball player.

Starting point is 00:12:48 Full court. He picked him up full court and just... Blocked his shot. Shit like that, just made it competitive. Other people would pick up on it. But what I'm saying is, you're doing one play. Yeah, but that's making it look like this was the whole game. No, it was, but I'm just saying, if more people took that...

Starting point is 00:13:03 What I'm saying is, if... Who is the best? If Braun, right was, but I'm just saying if more people took that, what I'm saying is if, who is the best, if Braun, right, if he would have played? He didn't play. Who was the next best guy that played in the All-Star game?

Starting point is 00:13:13 Giannis didn't play. The best player in the, okay, no, the best player would be Jokic, right? So if he would have, see,

Starting point is 00:13:23 see, now we, yeah. If he would have... See, now we... If he would have came out there, motherfucker, running fast, playing really hard, then it makes... We know the environment, right? Oh, this motherfucker playing hard. He trying to get the MVP.

Starting point is 00:13:36 We going to turn it up. We just ain't going to just give it to him. So that's my thing. If Kobe picking Braun up full court made everybody else like, this motherfucker really playing, I'm not going to look bad

Starting point is 00:13:49 out here. Not in this environment because it's really going to look bad if two, three, four people doing it and then you got everybody else up

Starting point is 00:13:55 just, hey, ole, ole. Just somebody can, one person can set the tone is all I'm saying. Michael Jordan picking up full court though. Say it again? How many clips of Michael Jordan

Starting point is 00:14:04 picking up full court? Like everybody going back to this tone is all I'm saying. Say it again? How many clips of Michael Jordan picking up full court? Like everybody go back to this. My point I'm making is one person can change the tone of it from the beginning of it. One person can. And no matter who it is, one person can change the tone of it. But ain't it supposed to be fun? When they say customer service, right? Are they... Is the arena sold out?

Starting point is 00:14:32 Are they lacking tickets from people participating in the arena? Like the circus. The circus is the actual place of business. What we see on TV is everything else. So is the tickets down in the arena itself? No.

Starting point is 00:14:49 But what's more important, the live viewership experience for the millions and millions of people watching? That can't afford to be there. Or just the 25,000. It's really the people that's there because they get to see all of it. They don't have commercials in that arena so whatever's happening in there we don't see most of it let's be honest people are buying or going to these events not for they're going to see the people right they're going to see the people entertainment no no just no no no the opportunity to see you the the person. They're not damn the event.

Starting point is 00:15:26 They're excited that I could possibly see Steph Curry. I could possibly run into LeBron James. I could possibly get a picture with Wimby. This is why they go. And going to the arena is only, it's a minute group, right? It's the masses that's going to the event is more than the people that's actually attending it. Attending the actual game.

Starting point is 00:15:51 Because everybody can't afford it. A family of four can't afford to go to the All-Star game. Right? Okay. Just can't. You got to save up for a couple years to say you've worked at the All-Star game. Okay, a family of one probably can't.

Starting point is 00:16:02 A dad can't take his son. His ticket was hidden. I can get a hotel room I can get a hotel room with a couple beds in it and have the opportunity to go to Saturday the convention center and they got all the players.

Starting point is 00:16:19 There's a potential to do that. So the product on Sunday that everybody's complaining about? The people on TV. The people on TV. And it's the masses, right? The masses gonna complain because... The people outside the club. Outside the club, right?

Starting point is 00:16:36 They're watching the club, though. My thing is, it's very expensive to get there, right? You gotta do a lot of shit to be in that environment spending 20, 30, whatever, how many thousands of dollars you're spending. We haven't heard one boo yet, right? We already know American basketball, if they don't like the product that they're watching, they will boo. We haven't heard no boos from the people that's there. All I hear is a bunch of people who've never played the game,

Starting point is 00:17:05 hockey, football, telling us what we need to do in our All-Star game. Not realizing their sports had the same fucking problem. You bragging about how your sport has changed and how great you are doing and how y'all care.

Starting point is 00:17:28 But yet you had the same fucking problem. So obviously during the same time, you niggas didn't think it was serious enough to compete. So why are y'all talking about our sport when no one even mentioned y'all sport? Not one basketball player talked about hockey views. We don't give a fuck. We don't give a fuck about what y'all doing down there. Football, y'all have Pro Bowl. We don't talk about y'all Pro Bowl problem that y'all had. Now y'all playing flag football.

Starting point is 00:17:55 We just watch the entertainment. But you had a competing problem also. But now y'all want to come on the NBA scene and then tell us why our product is bad Come on, dog Did you do words all voicing out about y'all own product because we wasn't we would we wasn't tearing down y'all product our product is Being torn down about people who ain't played we've done seen the NBA all-star change throughout the years and The group NBA All-Star changed throughout the years, and the group that's important have not even been included in it.

Starting point is 00:18:31 They have not sat down the All-Star players and said, hey, what do y'all need to go out there and play hard for them to get feedback? I mean, with this new format, there was talk that Adam Silver consulted Steph Curry and some other players about steph curry who else steph curry was the main name okay so there wasn't the main damn near 12 it was usually make it every year not the possible 20 all-stars that might make it right that we know that's gonna make it the shade the Luca them and say what do you guys need?

Starting point is 00:19:06 For for a better experiment Experience for everybody else. No, they did it with football. They did it with hockey. They did it with MLB not with us It's not after the bra for having the foresight What Jenny Brown say can I have a I don't know what's going on I ask the question Where's the accountability? Where was it in football? Where was it in NHL? Where's the accountability?

Starting point is 00:19:35 Yeah, I hear all sides. The reason they not booing you is because people are, they not, people are, people are, they not tied to it. But why is NBA All-Star Weekend

Starting point is 00:19:46 the only one always talked about? Because it's the biggest one. It's the biggest one. I had a question. I had a question. I had a question. I did ask it, but I knew you wouldn't go.

Starting point is 00:19:56 I know y'all weren't going to answer. Right? Because the NBA, the NBA, right, claims the number one spot in sports. We do? Yes. No, football does. I think football does. I said the NBA claims the number one spot in sports. We do? Yes. No, football does.

Starting point is 00:20:06 I think football does. I said the NBA claims the number one spot. NFL does. All right? So, as the NBA grows and grows and grows, and you have the second worst statistically? Second lowest. Second lowest.

Starting point is 00:20:23 That's stats. That's not. Stats tell the story. Statistically? Second lowest. Second lowest. Right? That's stats. That's not. If stats tell the story, that means that customers have a right to write their review and say, I do not like what y'all are doing. I don't like how they're playing. I don't like the product. I need my refund. But they ain't asking for a refund.

Starting point is 00:20:46 They just hoping the players will just start playing fucking hard because we're paying y'all more motherfucking money than you're asking for. But it's an all-star game. I don't give a fuck what it is. It's a game. It's a game.

Starting point is 00:20:54 Hey, do you need money to go upstairs and play me one-on-one? Do you need money to go play two-on-two? You not getting paid for your little league you playing in?

Starting point is 00:21:03 Ain't that paying you? Ain't that paying you? You a hooper. You a hooper. That's who. What we talking about? We don't need no incentive. This nigga don't want niggas to complain. And we fans, we got to complain.

Starting point is 00:21:13 When you ain't playing for shit. They complaining about everything. Nigga out there losing in Phoenix and don't want nobody complaining about the losing. It's not an all-star game. What the fuck? It's an NBA problem overall. Period. It's a sports problem. It's carrying over to all-star game. What the fuck? It's an NBA problem overall. Period. It's a sports problem. It's carrying over to all-star games,

Starting point is 00:21:27 where it should never carry over. It's something to talk about problem, I think. If you just let the all-star game be the all-star game. If every sport has changed. We're not talking about all sports. We're talking about the NBA all-star game. Ain't no other all-star game happening. An NHL dude come on the TV and say what he said,

Starting point is 00:21:43 and everybody get mad because he played hockey. So fucking what? Let me say it then. What are we going to get mad at him for? Fuck him. I said it. Fuck him. I said it.

Starting point is 00:21:53 Now it don't matter. Now it don't matter because I'm me. Let Vince say it. Let T-Mac say it. Yeah, you played this sport. Does it matter then? Yes. It would.

Starting point is 00:22:02 So why does it matter who the messenger is? It does. The message is the message. No, it ain't. Yes. No, it ain why does it matter who the messenger is? Because. The message is the message. No, it ain't. Yes, no. The shit is a shit product. It's a shit product right now. We got to fix it.

Starting point is 00:22:12 It's good that you can't. That's the thing. Acknowledge it. All right, so tear down the NBA. No, acknowledge it. Acknowledge there's a problem. Fuck it. What would we talk about?

Starting point is 00:22:20 Acknowledge that it's a problem. I ain't heard one person say anything good about the NBA. Acknowledge that. Fucking Luka traded. Acknowledge that it's a problem. I ain't heard one person say anything good about the NBA. Acknowledge that it's a problem. If Luka didn't get traded, the NBA wouldn't have nothing to talk about but negative shit about the All-Star. The reviews, the viewership for the finals last year were down. Listen, I'm not mad. Wait, hold on. First of all, cable TV is down anyway.

Starting point is 00:22:41 Don't revisit this conversation, man. It's a fact. It's not a fact, bro. It's not a fact bro. It's not a fact So 110 million you move to go first. No, no 110 million viewers Will subscribe to cable Few years ago now is down to 70. That's not a difference That's that's 40 million people less watching just shit, period. So, numbers are just going to be down anyway, right?

Starting point is 00:23:09 Second lowest All-Star game. Now, second lowest. Now, is that a fact or was that just part of... Oh, my gosh. Can you read the date that is right there and write what I said? Right here? Yeah. So, the league start with that? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:24 So, the league... No, say the date. So, February 16th. What day is said. Right here? Yeah. So the league start with that? Yeah, yeah. So the league... No, say the date. So February 16th... What day is that? Saturday? 2024. Saturday. 2025, excuse me.

Starting point is 00:23:31 Saturday, right? Okay. Is that Saturday? Yep. So that means the All-Star game ain't start yet, right? It's getting old. Okay.

Starting point is 00:23:37 Here's what it was said. So the league already knew the numbers was going to be low, so they're going to tell Bron sit out and be like the views was low because Bron didn't play at all. I said that Saturday.

Starting point is 00:23:46 You did say that Saturday, Gil. I had a meeting with NBC. They said this is going to be the worst all-star views. One, because people who watch cable TVs is old people. Saturday Night Live's 50th anniversary was coming on. That's where all the views were. So I'm in a meeting Saturday morning,

Starting point is 00:24:06 8 o'clock, and got that message. This is Saturday I said this. And what happened Sunday? So obviously they already knew because there was something else big that was happening. But fuck the views. We talking about the product.

Starting point is 00:24:21 I'm talking about the nigga complaining about fans, complaining about what they seeing. Fuck the viewership and how many people watching. It's what we watching and what we complaining about. Fix that. What I'm saying is I don't want to hear a hockey dude... Yeah, I get that. You badger...

Starting point is 00:24:35 If you hearing me, hear me. Fuck the hockey dude. Hear me. I want to know can I find any rate badgering that he did on hockey before they changed it just a few months ago? See, they were successful this All-Star game because they changed the format this All-Star game. How about last year or the year before that? The reason that the problem was change it. We've been trying to change ours, right?

Starting point is 00:25:03 We haven't been successful. But nobody tore down the NFL when they was having this problem. They changed it. We've been trying to change ours, right? We haven't been successful. But nobody tore down the NFL when they was having this problem. They changed it. Now they have flag football. Nobody's tearing down the NBA, bro. Nobody's tearing down nothing. Your players get paid the most money. But my thing about what KD is, like the complaint is, so I get it. My point is fans complain about everything.

Starting point is 00:25:28 Like nothing's good enough for the fans right now. So this, if I'm paying my money for something, right? And it's not free. If it's something free, I have no right to fucking complain about it, right? Exactly, bro. If I'm paying my money for any type of, whether it's to watch it on an app, live, whatever it is, whatever service I'm paying my money for,

Starting point is 00:26:04 I'm allowed to have something to say as a fan because I'm paying my money for it, right? And that's where people get it, like... If you're paying your money, then don't watch it so you don't have nothing to complain about, but you're just spending your money, right? So it all goes in this circle of thing, right? Like, yeah, they can fucking complain, KD, because they're paying their money for it.

Starting point is 00:26:27 Y'all not going around fucking Phoenix, Arizona, giving fucking tickets away, 23,000 people for free. Y'all not doing that. If y'all was doing that, people sit down, shut the fuck up. Nah, they still complain, KD. You know, people...

Starting point is 00:26:40 Well, they will, but it'll be less because they're fucking free, right? Because they're free, yeah. Now, it'll fall on deaf ears then, right? If you're giving somebody something, they complain, but it'll be less because they're fucking free, right? Because they're free, yeah. Now, it'll fall on deaf ears then, right? If you're giving somebody something they complain, you're like, well, I just think I'll give you another one. Yeah, right. Right? Then you just wash your hands with it.

Starting point is 00:26:53 But if I'm paying my money for the product, and in today's society where this motherfucker is so many different ways for me to complain and to reach him. They have the right. This is weird. They have the right to complain because they're paying for it. So he cannot like it, absolutely. But they're paying their money for it, bro. I'm talking to speaking to KD.

Starting point is 00:27:22 They're paying their... People work nine to five and fucking all hours of the day to go watch this shit and they don't like what they see So of course they gonna have something to say. I don't like the way the motherfucker wash my car I'm gonna have something to say because I paid for it right just smudges on the window and shit like that You know, hey, no, hey, bro Come on man so that's what they're doing they bringing it to everybody's attention but it just so happened that it's a billion dollar industry that we're talking about and you think that you can't fuck it up you think

Starting point is 00:27:55 that your shit's perfect it ain't perfect so before we continue i want to tell everybody out there hit a refresh on the stream we apologize for the internet issues as you can see we're talking about some sensitive subjects then people out there don't want us to shine. But go ahead, hit that refresh. You already know what time it is. It's a black SUV circling the neighborhood before the show today. I knew something was up. I knew y'all was up to something.

Starting point is 00:28:13 But, Gil, what were you going to say? So there's only one solution. What's that? Don't have the game. No, you can have it. Nah. That ain't the answer. That is the answer.

Starting point is 00:28:24 That's called take your ball and go home. Yeah, that's not the answer. That is the answer. That's called take your ball and go home. Yeah, that's not the answer. That is the answer. That's weak. Because the answer of me going up. Don't be weak. No, no. Don't be weak.

Starting point is 00:28:33 Wait, hold on, hold on. Don't be weak. Don't be weak. Yeah, you're cheating the fans. You don't want fans. You don't want fans. Can we talk real sports? You don't want fans.

Starting point is 00:28:41 Yes, we are. You don't want fans. Let's talk real. But you're cheating want fans. Yes, we are. You don't want fans. Let's talk real. But you're cheating the fans. If you know that the 24 of us got something fucking bigger to play for. Yes. Right? Ours is not after the season. We got something bigger to play for.

Starting point is 00:28:55 Your team is number one. We know damn well you're not going 90%. True. Right? True. So the only option is I'm not going to go 90, 80, or 70 unless I got enough points to win it. Other than that, I am not giving you more than 75%. Okay.

Starting point is 00:29:12 You don't like that, right? I'm with you. Then let's not have the game so you can't complain. Let's figure out something else to do. Let's just have a one-on-one game for the people who want to go hard. But I am not going to jeopardize my season for a fun act. Don't get mad when you don't get picked for All-Star then.

Starting point is 00:29:30 Fuck, nigga. Don't get mad when you don't get picked because you don't want to play. You don't want to jeopardize this shit. That's weak as hell. You don't deserve to be an All-Star. You don't deserve to be an All-Star. Kobe Bryant never did it. He never cheated that shit.

Starting point is 00:29:46 He played hard. He did? He won. He played hard and he won the game. He wanted to win the game. So who are the fans? So whoever wins the MVP is playing harder? He's just playing harder than everybody else.

Starting point is 00:29:59 We ain't talking about all that. Of course we ain't talking about all that. We're talking about playing hard. Playing hard. It's easy to play hard. Okay We don't need your incentive to me to win the MVP. Okay hard cuz I'm all-star how hard the yoke is played in any All-star he's ever played against 5% or anybody who plays 15% is playing harder than him

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Starting point is 00:34:29 This is not supposed to be the first one. Let's keep this thing moving. It is still Black History Month, but we got to give some love to our favorite Caucasian. So, Lucas, first three games with the Lakers, left much to be desired, with the squad going one and two in that stretch, with the win over the Jazz at home,

Starting point is 00:34:44 followed by losses to the Jazz in Utah in the final game before All-Star break and a home loss against the Hornets in their first game back after the All-Star break. So Luka sat the next game against the Blazers but got to witness LeBron drop a 40-piece on the second night of a back-to-back that had JJ Redick glazing King James' greatness. You guys have all seen the clip. And Saturday night, Luka got his magic back as the Lakers pulled up to Denver, losers of 13 of their last 14 games against the Nuggets, with Joker and them in the midst of a nine-game winning streak.

Starting point is 00:35:11 That streak is no longer. But before the game, J.J. Redick had a simple request for Luka. At least one blackout episode where he's screaming indiscriminately at no one in particular because he's excited like that's that means he's back that's the that's the luca i know the killer that's the luca we all know jj god bless luca luca obliged his new head coach delivering his best performance as a laker and finally heeding lebrron's advice to not fit in, but fit the F out. Let's take a look at some of the highlights if we can. Shout out to all the Nuggets fans. Make sure you tune in very closely to these highlights. It's a new day

Starting point is 00:35:52 here in LA. So Luka was averaging less than 15 points per game as a Laker heading into the matchup, but got to cooking early, dropping 16 points in the first quarter. Finished the game with 32 points, 10 rebounds, 7 assists, and 4 steals. Going 10 for 22 from the field, 4 for 9 from 3, and 8 for 8 from the line. Luka was a plus 20 for the game, his highest since coming to L.A. LeBron followed up his 40-piece with 25 points, 9 rebounds, 5 dimes, and 3 blocks. Ooh, you see it right there. The best third option in the league, Austin Reeves, also known as Lemon Daddy,

Starting point is 00:36:24 added 23 points and 7 dimes going four for seven from deep. And Rui Hachimura had 21 points and four rebounds. So Rui left the game early in the fourth quarter with an apparent injury, but returned later in the quarter saying he would be all right. So as impressive as the Lakers were on offense, their defense was just as dominant. While Joker did have his 26th triple-double this season, the Lakers had him in the torture chamber. Joker finished with 12 points, 13 rebounds, 10 assists, 2 for 7 from the field. Aaron Gordon led the Nuggets with 24 points. Jamal Murray had 19.

Starting point is 00:36:55 Russell Westbrook came off the bench and had 17. So we saw that third quarter. Nuggets cut the lead to just two points. But the Lukas would not be denied outscoring the Nuggets 60-38 from that point on. Lakers had 39 points off. Turnovers never trailed in the game. Not that we expected them to. God bless Luka Doncic.

Starting point is 00:37:13 Luka! The Purple and Gold got their first win in Denver since April of 2022, snapping an eight-game losing streak at Ball Arena and are a league best 14-4 in their last 18 games with the top defensive rating, third-best net rating in the league in that span. So after the win, Luka had this to say about his first blackout game with the Lakers and the team goal for the season. I think you can see it, you know, me smiling on the court, having fun. You know, JJ told me, you know, you got to have one of that blackout moment you have.

Starting point is 00:37:43 So I think I had one. You know, it just felt like me know, you got to have one of that blackout moment you have. So I think I had one. You know, it just felt like me a little bit. So I was happy. How encouraging is it for you to find your game like this, this quickly, and then to see the team come along and have the defensive effort as well and just have that all come together? What kind of confidence does it give you about your new team? Great confidence.

Starting point is 00:38:03 You know, I remember when was the last time I won here. It was very tough to play here against that team. Just to win like that, it's an amazing win for us and gives me a lot of confidence moving forward. I think our goal is to win the championship. That's our only goal. I think we have the team for that. Obviously, the chemistry with me and the guys, you know, it's gonna take a little time still But you know like you saw today, I think it's getting better and better. Oh

Starting point is 00:38:36 Luca press conference, please. I just want to we just want to see him look at smiling blowing right there. Look at that. Look at his neck. Look at that. Look at that. He's on a combo working out all-star break. It's a sign of a working man. He done probably lost 20 pounds in a week. Luka. Damn. Making me proud. Oh, man. Everybody in chat, just take a moment to appreciate Luka's greatness for us.

Starting point is 00:39:01 It will happen. That's fine. Okay. Motherfucker averaging 15 with y'all. Oh, that was before this breakout game. This breakout game. I didn't change the needle. It moved the needle.

Starting point is 00:39:13 It moved the needle a little bit. Gil, you were watching the game on playback during a watch party. What does Luka bring to this Lakers squad they previously lacked? Um... That's a great answer to get. He brings the equalizer to Jokic.

Starting point is 00:39:41 Jokic against the Lakers is putting up about 50 to 60 total. Points, rebounds, and assists, right? Total points, rebounds, and assists. And, you know, with assists, that's automatic two points. Add threes, right? So you're talking about anywhere from 50 to 70 totals that Jokic himself was bringing in. Anthony Davis couldn't match that because Anthony Davis was just a rebound and a score.

Starting point is 00:40:01 Didn't have assists. Well, with Luka, Luka gets to cancel that out, right? So Luka gets the average. You know, Luka's 28-9. He cancels Jokic's output when you talk about numbers-wise, metrics-wise. So that's what we gained from Luka that people don't realize when you're talking about just straight mathematics. Luka matches Jokic.

Starting point is 00:40:30 So if Luka could cancel out Jokic and don't have that 20-point spread on him, then that means you got LeBron versus... Murray. He wins that matchup. Then you have Austin against MPJ. He wins that one.

Starting point is 00:40:50 When? Just the other day? Output. No, just output. Just the other day, the game of the day. No, just output, period. The output that they put out. Y'all can't beat them. You crazy as hell. We just beat them. You crazy as hell.

Starting point is 00:41:05 Y'all can just beat them. It's going to be easy. You crazy as hell. Y'all can't beat them. Y'all don't really. Y'all don't. Y'all can't beat them. It's going to be tough. Y'all don't really. Y'all can't beat them. You're crazy. You can't beat them in the series.

Starting point is 00:41:12 We can. No, you cannot. Who was our only problem? You cannot. Luka, right? I mean, not me, not Luka, but who? You can't beat them. Jokic, right?

Starting point is 00:41:19 Y'all can't beat them. Jokic. What does Jokic average? 28. Y'all can't beat them. 28 and 14. How you like we can't beat them? He averaged 28 and 14. Yeah, we can't be he average 28 and 14 Anthony Davis average

Starting point is 00:41:28 28.7 and 12 so technically in theory they canceled each other out Y'all can beat him with Jamal Murray when I'm playing well the 10 assists the tennis this how many points is that? But Jamal Murray when playing well, how many what I'm saying is how many points is this? 20 on the lowest end you more to 30, right? That's all Yoko. So here's 28 points plus is 20 to 30 a city So from yeah, so that's what we was just that's what On paper I hear you No, okay. You want to keep throwing the stats and all that shit out there. I hear you. No. Okay, you want to keep throwing the stats and all that shit out there? I hear you absolutely. When you go between that 94-50, y'all can't fuck with him.

Starting point is 00:42:10 Get him. I don't want to fuck with y'all. We don't need to fuck with him. All that shit y'all talking about. They got better. They better than y'all. We're not going to stop him. Denver better than y'all. Y'all got to triple team him in order to have a chance.

Starting point is 00:42:23 But we're not going to stop him. Did we stop him before? We took seven shots. Y'all gotta triple team him in order to have a chance. But we're not gonna stop him. Did we stop him before? We took seven shots. Y'all bragging. Locked up. Y'all happy about this shit. Y'all can't beat them. We're not stopping him, right? He averaged a triple double.

Starting point is 00:42:40 Y'all ain't throwing him down. Y'all ain't doing nothing. We don't need to. We just need somebody to do the same thing. You're not What are you talking about cool y'all are they gonna stop Luca from Pay for yes Triple team Joker. No, that's the only chance y'all have no we don't Nick stop it I mean seven shot. We're not talking about Nick. Oh, man. Stop it Nick What do you think he's gonna take only seven fucking shots? It not talking about Nick, stop it, Nick. In a playoff series, you think he's going to take only seven fucking shots?

Starting point is 00:43:08 It ain't about the shots. It ain't about the shots. Huh? It ain't about the shots. So how many points? So can he score 28 points on seven shots? How many did they lose by? 23 points, Gil. So give him 20 more points. That's 32.

Starting point is 00:43:23 10 and 13. They still still lose so y'all You're going on one game. No, I'm giving you two. I'm gonna be whooping y'all ass Hey been whooping y'all ass no matter who the fuck y'all had on the phone Y'all got all to, the greatest player of all time. He ain't been good enough. He just turned 40, motherfucker. He's 37, 36.

Starting point is 00:43:54 I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. Y'all couldn't beat him. I don't give a fuck. Y'all, yeah. Y'all won one game. Congratulations. Congratulations. Y'all got one game. Congratulations. Congratulations.

Starting point is 00:44:06 Y'all got one fucking win against them. I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. You praise his ass. Say that shit. I don't want to hear it. Y'all have to. Congratulations.

Starting point is 00:44:20 With the triple team. Congratulations. You can give him 20 points. It don't matter. Hey, congratulations. With a triple team, Nick. You have a seven shot. I don't care. You can give him 20 points. It don't matter. He has seven turnovers. Who cares?

Starting point is 00:44:30 You know why? You know why? Defense. You know why? Congratulations. With these being triple teamed. As it should. You never been triple teamed before.

Starting point is 00:44:38 Are you complaining about somebody triple team? I thought you called the double team. I could pass out the double team easily. You got to now throw three people at me. What did he do against New York? I got one goddamn win. Three people. What did he do against New York? The same thing. out the double team easily. You got to now throw three people at me. One goddamn win.

Starting point is 00:44:47 What do you do against New York? The same thing. Do you think he's going to adjust? Do you think he's going to adjust to a stupid ass triple team? A desperate ass triple team? Was Jamal in New York last year? And they still beat y'all, man.

Starting point is 00:45:03 You know how to beat a triple team, right? As soon as I get it, I see three, I throw it. We didn't have to look it in. Y'all got better. Y'all team ain't got better. That was a dumb thing. Y'all still got non-shooters and non-playmakers out there, motherfucking dog.

Starting point is 00:45:16 Who's a non-shooter? The motherfucker who y'all need to go out and try to play some fucking defense. Them non-shooters. Yeah. Hey, man, we just whooped a team ass by 20. Okay, y'all got to win. Congratulations. Congratulations.

Starting point is 00:45:29 That's what y'all know. The Lakers have become an organization that's celebrating. Nuggets in fucking February 26th. Game by game. Game by game. That motherfucker's happy about a win in February. We won today. That motherfucker's excited about a win in February. Berkman, that bitch serving.

Starting point is 00:45:45 We won today. Yo, our dog food. Motherfucker's excited about a win in February. Which one? We won today. What came with these meat undies? Fucking February. Yo, we're dog food.

Starting point is 00:45:53 We won by, wait a minute, Berkman, Berkman. Which one they serving? We won in February. But you got beat, you got beat by Utah and Charlotte. So February. What place are y'all in? So February, we just got a new player. Y'all got the same team, right?

Starting point is 00:46:07 Y'all need to worry about the team that's in fifth. Right? Who's in fifth? Whoever it is, that's who the fuck y'all need to be worried about. Y'all don't need to be worried about motherfucking playing the Denver Nuggets in goddamn February. Hey, chat. And winning one time. And winning one game.

Starting point is 00:46:21 They been kicking y'all ass. Chat, Ben. Denver plays the Lakers in the playoffs. Of course they was going to have a slip. They didn't win nine straight. Y'all catching them. They didn't win nine straight fucking games. Y'all going to get them. Oh, shit. The Lakers beat the Nuggets. They ain't going to win

Starting point is 00:46:36 no more. They didn't win 10 straight. They didn't win 10 straight. Oh, chat. Oh, that's the chat. They be worried about motherfucking win February. That's my kid saying. That, ask the chat. He said they didn't win tits straight. Hey, that's my kid saying. That's the motherfucking February. That ain't win tits straight.

Starting point is 00:46:49 What my son say? What my son say? What my son say? He didn't kiss my girl on the tits. But he clapped somebody on the tits. He clapped the tits. He ain't kiss her, though. Hey, man, I'm saying.

Starting point is 00:46:59 At least he ain't kiss her. Hey, this starting to sound like crack. I'm sorry. This starting to sound like it. Hey, chat, you know what crack sound like, don't you? You know what it sound like. You been on it. I'm starting to sound like it.

Starting point is 00:47:08 You been on it. You been on it. Chat, chat, hold on. Chat, I'm telling you right now. Hypothetically. If the playoffs start, if was a fifth. We'd be drunk. We'd be motherfucking drunk.

Starting point is 00:47:21 So we just going off what? We going off that then. Hypothetical. So chat, listen to Gil's statement. Yeah, go ahead. But let me ask, hypothetically, now go. If the Denver Nuggets play the Lakers in the playoffs, do not put your money on Denver.

Starting point is 00:47:35 I wouldn't. Y'all better worry about the team that's in fourth and fifth right now. Fuck the Denver Nuggets. One game, fair word. Don't goddamn matter, Chet. Chet. All right. Pay attention. I thought we were going back. How about this? I thought we were going back. Let's do it now. Now fuck the Denver Nuggets one game fair wear don't goddamn matter chat chat Those two

Starting point is 00:47:52 Put a blanket now What's the bet bet the team is the first round fourth or fifth, motherfucker, I bet on them. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet.

Starting point is 00:48:08 I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet. I bet.

Starting point is 00:48:13 I bet. I bet. I bet. And I triple it. Y'all worried about getting in and worried about team. Oh, now you want to put 10th up because they won a game in February. Oh. I just know how to calculate. Scare me. I just know how to calculate. Just like Vegas calculated.

Starting point is 00:48:35 When Luka got there, they shot up. Shot up. Okay, cool. Y'all beat the Denver Nuggets in February. Congratulations. Have the Lakers ever lost to the Nuggets in the Luka era? If we would have lost to them in February, they would have been talking trash. Who would have?

Starting point is 00:48:47 We would have been saying, it's another ass whooping. It's another ass whooping. It's just another ass whooping. And y'all can't say that. Y'all making a big deal about it. Because we whooped y'all ass. Who is y'all? Y'all.

Starting point is 00:48:57 Who is y'all? He's still burping y'all, motherfucker. Nah, he ain't burping us. He ain't burping us. No. We got one week. We got a burper, too. We got a motherfucker who burps, too.

Starting point is 00:49:05 Y'all got one win. Y'all got a motherfucker that's fat. He gonna put 50 total points. Y'all got a motherfucker that's fat. That just took off. They both fat. He's constipated. What is Joker?

Starting point is 00:49:13 He's constipated. You got a motherfucker that's constipated. He need to go get some. What is Joker? One win in February, and y'all motherfuckers happy. Yeah, that little triple-double don't work no more. This ain't Andy Davis. Get that little shit out of here. That little shit.

Starting point is 00:49:25 Don't shoot that little motherfucker. So now a triple-double is little. You little fuckers, it sounds stupid. He got a triple-double and got what? How much? They lost by 23 points. Congratulations. His total's going to have to be 50-something.

Starting point is 00:49:33 Y'all be two-compete now. Two-compete. Congratulations. Did Lucas see any triple teams? He can't. Can't? What the fuck? He got LeBron James on him.

Starting point is 00:49:41 The fuck he talking about? He got LeBron James on him. He got LeBron James on him. He got LeBron James on him. He got LeBron James on him. He got LeBron James on him. He got LeBron James on him. Y'all be too compete. Y'all be too compete. February, congratulations. Did Luka see any triple teams? He can't. Can't? Can't? What the fuck?

Starting point is 00:49:48 He got LeBron James over there. What the fuck is he talking about? Did LeBron James see any triple teams? Let's see. He can't. He got Luka over there. Did they see any double teams? Did you see this play right here?

Starting point is 00:49:58 This lets you know. This is February. This lets you know. This is February. We got something different. It's still February. It don't change the fucking date. It's still February. Luka had the ball. It's still February. It don't change the fucking date. It's still February.

Starting point is 00:50:06 Luka had the ball. It's still February. Luka had the ball on the ice. It's in February. Luka had the ball. In February. Yes. Luka had the ball on the ice.

Starting point is 00:50:13 In February, right? In February. Right? In February. He had an ice on. The game that don't fucking matter. In February. He had an ice on.

Starting point is 00:50:18 In February. He had an ice on. In February. They was going to set a screen. They was going to set a screen. In February. I thought you were going to play hard all the time. No, no. He had. He in for yet. I thought you play hard. He had Michael Porter's you we got a Michael Porter juice fuck. We had Michael

Starting point is 00:50:38 Roll was coming he waved that shit over come on in waved and said, fuck that ISO, and took his ass to the basket. Sweet February. Ladies and gentlemen, the Kentucky Differs Nuggets. We got a special guest. We got a special guest making his first appearance in the arena. Fifth overall pick out of Kentucky in the 2010 NBA draft. Went on to play 11 seasons in the league. Four-time All-Star, two-time All-NBA selection.

Starting point is 00:51:03 Get motherfucking beat on, and y'all motherfucking happy. He won a gold medal with Team USA in the 2016 Olympics. Most recently, he won a chip in finals, MVP in the T1 leg in Taiwa. Look at this, guys. Welcome to Gil's Arena. Whoa, whoa. What's happening, fellas? What's happening?

Starting point is 00:51:20 What's going on? Well, you joined us just in time. We were just having a spirited conversation about the Luka Doncic era Lakers. Okay. Luka, the new face of the Lakers, perhaps the NBA in some people's estimation. I don't know if you saw the game this weekend, but they smacked the Nuggets. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:51:33 Brought balance back to the force. Pry back to the city of Los Angeles. Yeah. So what did you think about that game? What do you think about this Luka if he can keep playing at that level? What are the Lakers' prospects? I think it's moving in the right direction for the Lakers. I ain't really getting into the game too much.

Starting point is 00:51:51 This is a new-look team. Teams adjust. Teams got to figure out who they are now, their new identity, shit like that. So it's not necessarily where I feel like this is a statement game or it means anything. It's just the Lakers figuring shit out. They look good for the first time as a team. Everybody looked good. I mean, I think this was a perfect night for them,

Starting point is 00:52:11 but I don't think that necessarily says like, you know, this is it. Hmm. But you might have to move you to this side of the town. February, right? February, right? Yeah, it's early, man. Hey, he didn't hear nothing we was talking about.

Starting point is 00:52:22 He didn't hear nothing! This is a little personal, though. You know, Lakers... Nah, nah, nah. What? Don't do that. Don't do that. I ain't taking shit personal.

Starting point is 00:52:31 Don't do that. Don't do that. Nah, I mean, it is what it is. I mean, I don't have no skin in the game, you know what I mean? So I'm just... I'm on the outside looking in, and I know the game. So I don't think nobody should overreact over a win. It's regular season. This is just regular reaction for us here in Aaron.

Starting point is 00:52:47 Just regular. Just regular. Very tame. Mild. I mean, for them L.A. boys, though, I know they're excited. I get it. You know what I'm saying? I ain't mad at y'all.

Starting point is 00:52:56 Y'all fans at heart. So, you know, it is what it is. We know it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They know it, too. We want to keep all the negative We got numbers they get invited to the review, but it's okay. We'll promote it anyway. Fuck it. They're not paying attention to the numbers, dog. They're not paying attention to it.

Starting point is 00:53:28 Like, Anthony Davis brung in 28 points. That's all he brung in, 28 points. Excuse me? The motherfucker want y'all to chill. What you talking about? No, no, no. I'm talking about. What about the rebound?

Starting point is 00:53:38 I'm talking about. Rebound don't count as points. I'm talking about points. Tell me which is more dangerous. This motherfucker only care about scoring. Tell me which is. He only care about scoring, man. That's it, man. which is more dangerous. This motherfucker only care about scoring. He only care about scoring, man. That's it, man. Offensive rebound, pointbacks is the point.

Starting point is 00:53:51 What is a more dangerous stat line? Nikola Jokic. 32, 7, and 12, right? And Anthony Davis had 32, 14, and 5. Who won that matchup?

Starting point is 00:54:13 I don't know. Are you fucking kidding me? No, the first one, right? No, I'm rolling with A. He has 32, 5, and 14. 5 what? Who? 5 assists.

Starting point is 00:54:23 Anthony Davis or? 14 rebounds? Mm-hmm.. Anthony Davis or? 14 rebounds. So 32, 7, and 12. So he contributed assists as well. Boogie. Five. Whenever he touched that phone, bro. But he contributed.

Starting point is 00:54:33 But he contributed. We comparing a big to a one. Why don't we compare a big to a all? Gil want to act like the motherfucker. Boy, listen. Which doesn't. Hold on, y'all. It don't go together.

Starting point is 00:54:42 Hold on. Talk to me. Gil want to act like the motherfucker just went out and scored all points and then passed the ball at all Right. That's the way he won't have the conversation right right he wanted like I mean what I want to have only five assists He so shit like that right? I said I mean only five like it did matter. So what was Nicola's numbers? 32 7 and 12 7 what? assists So one guy had five assists.

Starting point is 00:55:06 One had five. One guy had seven assists. One guy had 12 rebounds. One guy had 14. So who produced the most points on the offensive end of the... So, because he had two more. Because he had two more fucking assists. I'm going to say Anthony Davis.

Starting point is 00:55:21 We can bet 80. Hold on. Because Anthony Davis' assists were all threes. I'm going to say Anthony Davis. All threes. Okay Jokic and- Hold on. Because Anthony Davis is assist with all threes. I'm going to say Anthony Davis. All threes. Okay, then Jokic was all threes. We can't confirm that. We can't confirm that.

Starting point is 00:55:30 So therefore, you're not- So therefore- You're messing with me, dog. So therefore, Jokic was- No, no. Jokic was all threes. So that's 21 extra points. So what is your argument now?

Starting point is 00:55:39 So 21 and- We love our guys. Blocks. Blocks. Blocks. Blocks. So Anthony Davis blocks more shots. Blocks leads to fast blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks,

Starting point is 00:55:52 blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, blocks, out if one more if one person has the same amount of points a few more assists he had he's pushing he's putting more points no not necessarily okay no how many points you you want to make this because so we can make it even no because all of his could be tools all three it could be but we don't know that we don't know so you don't know what the points were do you know the points were what the points were, do you? Do you know what the points were? So therefore your argument is incomplete. So I'm not going to have a statement.

Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah, because you're making shit up. You're making shit up. You always want to talk facts, right? What are the facts here? The facts are you don't know the fucking numbers. Don't know the numbers. So you can't make a conclusion. There ain't no conclusion when you don't know the numbers. Pick up. Let's go.

Starting point is 00:56:46 Let's go. Don't know the numbers. Stand in the zone, Boogie. When you pick up that phone, you know it. Seven is more than five. No matter how you want to do it. Seven is more than five, right? No matter how you want to do it.

Starting point is 00:56:58 How many points did they have over the five assists? How many points did they have over the seven assists? The number you have lost is no longer in service. Give me, please, please. Please check the number. Oh, you got the pin now. Uh-oh. How many points it has Give me please please check the number you got the pin now Don't write on the me on this box, please. Please don't be Since you always want to bring up stats and facts do your fucking homework first You might know well, I'm gonna I want to bring up stats and facts. Do your fucking homework. First. You might want to calm down. You might look stupid on this one. Well, how am I going to look stupid?

Starting point is 00:57:28 I want to know the numbers. How am I going to look stupid when I want to know the fucking numbers? You got to go get the numbers, though. He's not stupid. He's Kenya Martin. You got to go get the numbers. Go get them. Go get them.

Starting point is 00:57:36 Anthony Davis could have produced more on the cola. On the cola. I don't fucking know, so I'm not going to fucking guess. So go do your homework. Finish your conversation. No, go do your homework. Boogie, you picked a great day to pull up to the arena. But I wanna ask you a question real quick.

Starting point is 00:57:50 My girl does his research. Nonsense. Facts, man. Facts, man. You ain't played in the league since 2022, but you've been playing overseas. Like I said, you won the chip finals, MVP, balling in Taiwan.

Starting point is 00:57:59 Look good right now. Yeah. How was that? You still want to continue your in-bay career, or where you at right now with that? Hell nah, I'm straight. You good? Yeah, I'm good. I like where I'm good right now. How was that? You still want to continue your in-bed career or where are you at right now with that? Hell nah, I'm straight. You good? Yeah, I'm good. I like where I'm at right now.

Starting point is 00:58:09 Lakers need a big man. That ain't my concern. I'm enjoying life, man. I'm enjoying being home with the fam. I'm moving all around the world, seeing different shit. I like where life is at right now. To be locked down in the NBA season, I'm just kind of past that.

Starting point is 00:58:26 I mean, unless it's some lucrative deal I can't pass. Okay, so we're going to get Rob on the phone? I mean, outside of that, they passing on minimums. I'm cool on that. Okay. We respect that. How long did that take? Because I know it took a lot of us,

Starting point is 00:58:38 all of us, like, to really be over the NBA. How long did it take me? Yeah. Shit. I would say, you know, after that first year out, you know, I got to travel a lot. I saw a lot of different cultures, a lot of different leagues.

Starting point is 00:58:51 And the biggest thing is just the money worldwide. And, you know, naturally, I'm a hustler. So it got my blood going once I, you know, got to experience that. So it was easy for me

Starting point is 00:59:02 to, like, just close that chapter and look to open a new door in my life. And love was different over there. Man, love. I mean, it ain't even just that, because, you know, I feel like with that part of my life, as far as, you know, being a star or whatever the case may be, I think that's stamped, like, and that comes and goes.

Starting point is 00:59:21 But like I said, I'm at the point now where I'm experiencing so much new stuff, all these new cultures, like different people. I'm making money in ways I never had before. So, you know what I'm saying? I'm enjoying this part of life and that's what I'm at with it. Yeah, she is. When you was trying to get back in, did you find a, did they ever give you a reason why for you to close that book? I never got a real reason. You know, that's one thing about the league.

Starting point is 00:59:45 You know, they gonna put sugar on shit. That's just what they do. So I mean, it can be for whatever reason. It could have been because you looked at a person the wrong way. That's just the league. But for me, it was more so about, you know, finding comfort in my situation and being able to move on from it so I could still be productive in my life. And it actually came easier than I thought it would,

Starting point is 01:00:06 so I'm cool with that. People still want to pay you for your talent, people still want to be around you, just as these people don't. Right? Because I get paid to talk now. I tell KJ all the time. I ain't tripping.

Starting point is 01:00:14 I tell KJ all the time, bro, listen, people paying green money all around the world to play basketball and your talent, so. Absolutely. If it don't work out over here, bro, it ain't the end of it. There's so many places to go play a game, bro. So much to do, so much to see, bro. No, but I work out over here, bro, it ain't the end of it. There's so many places to go play the game, bro. So much to do, so much to see, bro. No, but I'm happy for you, man, for being able to do that, right?

Starting point is 01:00:30 Right. Being able to close that, realizing what your talent is, realize what you still brought to the game and what you had to give. Because it takes people a lot longer than that, dog. It does, man. Yeah. Just keep pushing at that, pushing at that, pushing at that. And even with that, like, the fact that you said that, like, I mean, I want to create, you know, avenues for guys having to make that transition.

Starting point is 01:00:51 That shit hard, bro. And the average person don't understand, but when you've been a fucking athlete your whole life, and then, you know, the next day they just telling you to turn that off and become something else, that's a hard transition. So, you know, just trying to create avenues and different you know platforms and areas for guys that are trying to make that transition because it's i mean at the end of the day we are family we are the brotherhood so we all going through the same struggles at some point in our life yeah absolutely i want to open up this

Starting point is 01:01:18 conversation for you um i believe you were on the hall of Fame trajectory. For sure. And you got to play with Isaiah and Sac. You guys, early on, was said to have bumped heads. Who? Me and IT? Yeah, was said, the rumors. But as we've grown to see y'all both flourish, and your career started to go in a certain way, I look back and I see that last season with New Orleans

Starting point is 01:01:49 and then that first season with the Warriors. I want to know what your mentality was with that adjustment as you were 25 and 15 and you on the way to take off, like literally. And everybody was still kind of beefing with you. You had certain media personalities questioning you, all that type of shit. I want to know what, well I would like the kids and the young people to know what that mentality transition

Starting point is 01:02:15 was to go from New Orleans to the Warriors, championship swag, knowing that you got a thou back, who Boogie really is. What was that like? It was actually easy for me because, you know, going into that situation, you know, I had conversations with Steve Kerr, and, you know, to his credit, he was up front, he was honest, he told me exactly what he was looking for from me.

Starting point is 01:02:41 And obviously joining a team like that, you know, you got one already well-oiled machine. So for me to come in thinking, like, I'm going to make this my show, that's just foolishness. So that definitely wasn't my mindset. But it was more so, you know, one, I had come from, I started my career off in a losing situation. So learning how to win at this level was something that I was all, well, I ain't going to say learning how to win, just experiencing winning. That was always something that I wanted. So, you know, once I joined the Warriors, that's all it was about for me, fitting in with this puzzle, learning from these Hall of Famers, learning from, you know, guys that have won championships.

Starting point is 01:03:18 So for me, and we all went in with the agreement that this was a one-year deal. You know what I'm saying? So for me, it was all about learning the situation, taking as much as I can from these Hall of Famers and going on to my next situation and spreading that knowledge. So that's kind of what the mindset was. But I just wanted to fit in. I wanted to help these guys win. I wanted to bring my talents because it was a missing piece that they didn't have. Obviously, I didn't want to mess up the flow of anything going on far as ego is concerned

Starting point is 01:03:47 like how a lot of people miss construed what the ego is of an athlete in the understanding of fitting into that puzzle like you said and everybody would expect man how to fucking boogie fit into the Warriors like this and he go from this and now he's at this, and then that one year is up, and it's like, well, where does he fit now? Right. Right?

Starting point is 01:04:12 So how do you have, that's what a lot of guys go through, those soft spots where you don't really know what's up. Well, shit, for me, it was a little more interesting because I ended up getting hurt in that season. So, you know, my intentions going in and the plan coming out of that season obviously didn't go as planned. So once I kind of experienced that injury, then everything kind of had to switch up. And that was probably the hardest transition for me at that point because, you know, suffering two major injuries back to back. Before all that, my mindset is I'm a killer. I step on the court, you know what it is.

Starting point is 01:04:46 That's always been my mindset. I've trained myself to be that my entire life. So for that to now be, well, we want you to be a veteran guy on the bench, and it's just like, damn. Already? That fast. And it's like, damn, I get it. And by nature, I'm that anyway.

Starting point is 01:05:05 Like, I get a young boy, I'm, you know, I'm taking him under my wing. I'm always giving knowledge. That's just a responsibility by default. But, you know, for them to, you know, you're not playing. We just need you to do this. It's like, god damn, bro. I don't even really know how to do that. Exactly.

Starting point is 01:05:21 So, that was the hardest thing. And then they put you in the situation where now you behind these young guys. I'm still technically in the prime of my career, so it was just a hard transition. And I don't mind stepping back and being a team guy. I'm that by nature. But once it comes to the point where, you know, I'm not playing, that's where it gets a little difficult. If it's for the betterment of the team, I understand. If I'm not playing just for us to be a losing team, I really don't fucking understand. Man, that's when you can help win. Yeah, it's just, it's a weird transition. And then that's when the business part really comes into play. You know what I'm saying? You start realizing that at the beginning of every NBA season,

Starting point is 01:06:07 it's probably really about six teams that's competing for a championship. You talk about that all the time. Everybody else, they just trying to sell tickets. They just trying to make sure they don't lose season ticket holders. Let's keep them afloat long enough to get these off, and, you know, whatever happens, happens. So for the most part, it's only six teams trying to win. And you start learning, like, you know, most teams are just trying to tame.

Starting point is 01:06:31 They're trying to gather draft capital. Whatever the case may be, you're just a part of the, you know, you're just a part of the bullshit. Damn, man. But at the same time, they want you to walk around with this mindset of being, you know, always ready. I'm ready to play whenever. It's just like, motherfuckers, y'all ain't ready. Like, what am I preparing for? Like, to lose?

Starting point is 01:06:50 I don't even know how to do that. Like, I prepare every day. I train every day to be a winner. But you're telling me to be a winner but also prepare to lose. So I don't know how to do this, brother. So when it comes to, like, our legacies. Oh, man. They're doing it wrong, right? Bro, my problem with that part is you really don't understand.

Starting point is 01:07:14 You got to kind of be on both sides of it to understand. You really aren't in control of your legacy. As much as they try to. They say you just dream. All you got to do is work hard, work on basketball every day. You can go be the greatest. It's up to you. Like, nah, motherfucker, it ain't that simple.

Starting point is 01:07:29 Say it again. It's really not that simple, bro. It's not ever that simple. Because once you get to this side, now your legacy is in that organization's hands. Yep. And if you fuck around and go to the wrong organization, oh, shit. Legacy what? Dog house. Who the fuck is that?

Starting point is 01:07:43 Who is he? Oh, he's a bust. Like, God. Damn. We thought he was good. Yeah. Well, I didn't even really get an opportunity to get put in the right situation. I got no shake.

Starting point is 01:07:53 I got no shake. I mean, since I've been drafted here, we've been rebuilding for the past six, seven years. Oh, yeah. How the fuck is that my fault? Damn. I feel like you could have been an all-star if they wasn't doing it by, like, this era. They're like, they don't count the record. It's more about stats. Like it by like this era. They don't count the record. It's more about stats.

Starting point is 01:08:07 Like you had the stats. No, they count the record still. No. I made some all-stars on basketball. I know, but in the beginning. Yeah, in the beginning when they was like. I mean, for me, I didn't look at it like that. I'm bald.

Starting point is 01:08:19 I didn't look at it like that because of the guys that were in front of me. I mean, I came in. Tim Duncan was still Tim Duncan. Cole was still Cole. You had Andrew Bynum, Paul Gasol running shit. Like, so I was behind some... Z-Bowl, Mark Gasol. You had, like, real dogs in front of me.

Starting point is 01:08:34 So for me, I didn't look at it as, you know, I'm in a losing situation, I can't make it. It's just like, bro, you're going to have to... Do what's better. You're going to have to outshine all these motherfuckers in front of you. Start winning. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 01:08:44 Yeah, I mean, all right And I can't control my situation He know in the back of his mind Got away to outshine all these when I went to Denver We talked about when I went to Denver when I stepped foot in Denver coming from the east to the west I was the motherfuckers six seven, best power forward out there, motherfucker. Mm-hmm. And a straight killer

Starting point is 01:09:08 at the time. Mm-hmm. Before injuries, before any micro fracture, all that shit, I was like that. And I stepped foot, I was KG, Tim,

Starting point is 01:09:17 everybody you named was still them. So coming in as a young fella, absolutely, yeah. No, it's just... She was still there too, right? Doing his thing. So you still, like, you got to motherfucking show up.

Starting point is 01:09:27 Hell yeah. Elton Brand was motherfucking double dope. Elton was old. So it's, yeah, you, yeah. He be. He be old with it. Yeah, it's just like when you start looking at, like, rankings and people say whose career is better,

Starting point is 01:09:40 and you're using winning matrix, it's like. So basically anybody who gets drafted to not these new clippers the clippers in the last 40 years you you you don't have a legacy right your legacy is washed anybody who got drafted to minnesota milwaukee um memphis charlotte like teams we know, right? There's only six teams, right, that want to actually win a championship, that are actually sitting here saying, we want to win. Everybody else trying to make the playoff.

Starting point is 01:10:13 So the 24 of you, the 24 teams, all you players, fuck your legacies don't mean shit. No. No. Right? So when people sit here saying, well, why'd you have to go leave to go win the championship? I play for the Cleveland Cavaliers. Right.

Starting point is 01:10:30 I play for OKC. They're not trying to win a championship. They was just happy to make the playoffs. They, right? They're just here to make the playoffs every year. They don't want to actually win a championship. So for me to say I want to be put in this this realm and you guys are using rings, I need to go to a team that's part of the one through six.

Starting point is 01:10:53 Absolutely. Imagine being a college player, winning a national title, coming into the league to a team that's not in that top six. It ain't even fucking thinking about winning. And you go in thinking your legacy's gonna be built around turning the shit around, and it's like they don't wanna turn around. They wanna keep their ass looking this way. They don't focus on nothing but how can

Starting point is 01:11:15 we turn our profit to stay in the black? You don't give a fuck about your legacy. Everybody go there, it's a graveyard. Graveyards. Sac, Minnesota, Portland, certainty, graveyard. You go there, it's a graveyard. Graveyards. Sac, Minnesota, Portland, certainty. Graveyard. You go there, it's like, fuck, get me out of here. The first year, if you can't get me out of here, Dan,

Starting point is 01:11:31 it's over. The legacy, you seeing these guys in front of me on this greatness chart because he got drafted to the Lakers, Boston, Chicago, right? One of those three major cities

Starting point is 01:11:48 that want to win, right? He gets drafted there, and because he got championships, he's in front of me, but you know, when you match yourself, a dog walk the fuck out there. Exactly. You know what I mean? And that's what I don't like. Because if you look at the top 50, or the top,

Starting point is 01:12:03 when he did the original top 50, right? If you look at the top 50 or top, when they did the original top 50, right, if you look at the cities they came from, 39 of them, all big cities. Right. Would you say the Warriors was a graveyard until they started winning, though? Huh? It was a graveyard?

Starting point is 01:12:16 You just said... No, think about it. Yeah, but they were still a big market team. But they were, yeah, they were a graveyard city. Right, no matter what yarmus... I've been watching for years. Yeah, that's what I'm saying they were, yeah, they were Graveyard City. Right? No matter what Giannis, no matter what. I've been watching for years. That's my friend. Shit, yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:28 They used to be loud in there. It was loud in that motherfucker, but that's what I'm trying to say. It'd be wrong in that motherfucker, but they sucked. Yeah. Yeah, like New York, right? Yeah. You go there, there ain't really shit going on there, but when they start, whoever starts winning there,

Starting point is 01:12:46 his legacy just automatically jumps. Might or might sell the team. Right? You know what I mean? Think different. If Brunson wins one championship, they're going to say he's the greatest Knick ever.

Starting point is 01:12:58 Championship? If he make a conference... Conference finals. They're going to wash out all of Patrick Ewan. They're going to pretend all of Patrick Ewan, all're going to pretend all of Patrick Ewan, all-stars,

Starting point is 01:13:07 all-NBA, they're going to wipe that shit out the window. He never got us a tip. It never happened. He never got us a tip. He never got us a tip. You got to get a tip.

Starting point is 01:13:17 You got to get a list. Ain't nowhere for them to build no statue. They're going to find somewhere in that motherfucker. In New York City, they're going to put that in the closet. In the fucking elevator. Ain't nowhere for them to build no statue. They gonna find somewhere Well, y'all get off the bus y'all gonna see this

Starting point is 01:13:35 Everybody we know the goddamn elevator Well, let's keep this thing moving. So give you get your mic fix, but before you came in we talk a little like good Gil I noticed that you you wrote all over the MeUndies box, so now this is the collector's edition box. So what's the numbers, Gilbert, with your AD Joker? Game one, Andy Davis' totals is 44. Jokic is 49. Game two. That's not what we asked.

Starting point is 01:13:58 Game two, Andy Davis had 32, and he had two assists, which his totals were 37. Jokic had 27 and 10, and his output was 52 points. With rebounds? With the points and assists combined. And the points and assists combined. So that's not what we asked you, though. It is.

Starting point is 01:14:19 It is. No, I asked how many assists, how many points. If I said five points, one was a two, one was a three, so that's five points. So how many points each game? So Anthony Davis' five assists came up to 12 points. Jokic came up to 17, plus five for Jokic. That's what I asked you. Then the next one was, what was 32, and Anthony Davis' two assists, came to five points. And Jokic, 10 assists, came to 25 points.

Starting point is 01:14:46 Uh-oh. Which the output was 52 to 37. And Denver won by two points that game. Was it? But the output was a plus 15. Okay, I got a question. Mm-hmm. How many games is that a total over there?

Starting point is 01:14:58 This is two. You want me to do some more? He said all the games, bro. I can tell you it's going to look worse. But how many games total was it played? He did to look worse. How many games total was it played? You did a good glance. How many games total was played? Four.

Starting point is 01:15:10 Oh, thank you. This is playoffs or this is season? So they got swept. They got swept. Kick his fucking ass, man. Gentlemen, gentlemen. You're trying to figure out what the argument is. The argument is he's trying to use stats to overcome the ass.

Starting point is 01:15:20 I want it to number. I'm saying with Luka there now, right? When you have someone who has 27 and 10 and he's putting in 52 offensive points with his twos and threes when Anthony Davis wasn't, this is the game. Someone has to make it. So do we count the points you give up? Probably. But they're giving up the same to each other.

Starting point is 01:15:43 You're averaging 32, I'm averaging 32. You have five... I mean, that's what I was saying. You can't really compare because it's two different positions. And it's two different types of players. But what I'm saying is just output itself. So someone like Luka who averages 32... I don't feel like you can compare the output though because it's two different positions.

Starting point is 01:15:58 And it's affecting the game. What part of the output is affecting the game? So Anthony Davis deflects a shot and doesn't block it. How do we write that stat down? We don't. But that has an effect on the game. That's part of the output. But we can't compare.

Starting point is 01:16:11 That deflection can lead to a bucket. That's a point. That blocked shot leads to a fast break. Boom, two points. That's AD's points. Those are AD's points. So you can't compare them. What do you mean you don't know that?

Starting point is 01:16:23 If he averaging five blocks, you have to put that in to the possibility. The possibility that ADs five blocks a game can lead to four to six. Not even a block. Five deflections. Five deflections can lead to it. But if they don't lead to any points. Five contests can lead to it. Just for argument's sake, I didn't even put in the free throws

Starting point is 01:16:45 that the Denver Nuggets got off of the pass Jokic gave and got fouled. I didn't even add that in. But I was just trying to show you. Why would you? I feel like you're making more and more layers.

Starting point is 01:17:00 Hold on. Hold on. Who's adding layers? Who's adding layers? I'm trying to get you to go. With someone who averages. Please go do it. With someone who averages. Waste your fucking time and do whatever you want to go do. Please go look it up.

Starting point is 01:17:16 With someone who averages. Do me that favor. 32-99 assists. The total points that he brings into a game matches what Jokic brings. So those two kind of cancel each other out. So I'm saying Lakers now have a better chance with someone like Luka on the floor because he can match Jokic's total points. So now LeBron versus, we go like that.

Starting point is 01:17:42 When you're talking about ADs putting in 37 points and Jokic putting in 52, that matchup is lopsided. Someone else has to make up that. I get all that, but the fact that, so the slack that Luka picks up, does that not take away from the next guy next to him, though? Does that not take away from an Austin Revis? Does that not then create the same type of balance?

Starting point is 01:18:02 But that's what I'm saying. It trinkles down, but no one has to make up the balance. Let's say you're playing against a center, right? And you're averaging 32, right? And this guy averages 10, right? That's 22 points. Someone else has to figure out how to make up, right? So I have to output my shooting guard, the shooting guard or point guard I'm playing against,

Starting point is 01:18:22 and try to make up for the fuck you're doing. You feel me? But that's the makeup. And that's what I'm saying. He's a bitch. We have someone who can now try to cancel you out as close as possible. Now, we just got to beat our position.

Starting point is 01:18:37 Please tell Gil he's right so we can move the fuck on. It is. It is. I'm not understanding. What are you talking about? Fuck him. It is. It is. Y'all have a con and a defense. Cancel out Joker by himself. I'm not understanding. What are you talking about? You have two guys. It's literally doing the same thing. Do the same thing.

Starting point is 01:18:50 And you still have LeBron. You still have LeBron that does what Luka does. And you can still lose. And you can still lose. Hold on. Say that again. It takes you guys to triple. The only thing I think the Lakers got better at is they now have two playmakers.

Starting point is 01:19:02 Well, two and a half playmakers on the floor. Yes. So say that again. You said Luka, I mean, Jokic does what? So Jokic was doing what again? Why do when I slow you down so I can hear you say something you don't want to talk about? You just made a statement. I just want to hear it.

Starting point is 01:19:21 Because he is Cemetery Larry representing the trenches. Luka, you said Jokic was. He takes out who? He said both of them take out Jokic. Y'all had LeBron and AD, and it was basically just Nikola. Yeah, so. And LeBron passes the ball and scores it and rebounds it. But not like Luka right now.

Starting point is 01:19:42 All of LeBron's and Anthony Davis wasn't good enough Then so let's talk about no, what if are you saying the Lakers are better now? Yeah Yes, I said every day not with Denver because we have there Here Who is Who's gonna him? Who's stopping him? Let me rephrase. Go into it. Talk about it. Nobody can stop him. No, so no one. Who's going to contain him?

Starting point is 01:20:08 No one. He's going to get his 52. I just want to know who's going to be in the way. Nobody. But who's going to be in the way of Luca, though? So that means he's going to have his 52. Cool. So if he's getting 52.

Starting point is 01:20:22 Let's say this. He's a pastor by default. So let's not feel like once he gets 50, he's going to stop that. But that hurts us now. Because he is so. So he going to get 50 and? No, he's going to get 20 or 30 and 10. The points and points and assists.

Starting point is 01:20:35 So everything together. The total points and assists. He's bringing in about 52. He's bringing about 45 to 60 points himself. We didn't have someone do that. So he was taken out. But y'all now. Y'all now. You didn't have someone do that. So he was taken out. But y'all now... You did have somebody to do that.

Starting point is 01:20:48 You had LeBron James. Why the fuck is he weak? You had LeBron. Why are you saying weak? I'm a Laker fan. He's a Laker fan. So what I'm saying is... You were on the Laker side of the couch.

Starting point is 01:20:56 He's taken out Anthony Davis and then taken out 15 points of what LeBron James is doing. But you're still giving it up. Hmm? They're giving up points now. But now they have somebody to bounce that off. Just neutralize him in just what he brings to the game.

Starting point is 01:21:10 Who? Luka. Stop. Luka. I'm saying, what's helping you get stops? Because, all right, you're picking up offensively, but you're also giving up defensively with Luka. I know what you're saying.

Starting point is 01:21:21 I know what he's saying. I know what you're saying. He's saying, what's stopping him? It's not going to stop at 52 points for Joker He's you can't you get you have no way to stop him from going like you don't even have a roadblock like a traffic That that 12 points was not that 12 points was a y'all triple team. We have we have a one game About the 12 points. I'm saying if he gets his 30 and 10 it's gonna be more than 30 That's what I'm saying way Way more. It was only 12.

Starting point is 01:21:46 It's going to be 40 with 10 assists. Yes. The 10 assists are happening. The 10 assists are happening. Yes. Well, who? AD was there to try to neutralize him from getting there. He neutralized the points.

Starting point is 01:21:55 He couldn't neutralize the assists. That's going to happen. That's the only average seven. That's going to happen anyway. He asked 10 for the season. But we have a one game sample size to go off of. Didn't get anywhere near that,

Starting point is 01:22:08 but we're going to talk about something you said. Lakers having basically two and a half playmakers. So after the game, JJ Reddick had this to say about how the Lakers offense will operate

Starting point is 01:22:15 moving forward. He said, don't keep talking to this man about the Lakers. This shit crazy. We want to talk to him about something else. This is the biggest game

Starting point is 01:22:20 of the weekend. We want to talk to this man about something else. We want to talk to this man about something else. Thank you. Thank Lakers. Keep wasting this man's goddamn time. Thank you, Swaggy. Y'all sound real mad today.

Starting point is 01:22:29 Man, it's about 45 minutes. If they would've got smacked by 23, y'all would've been all willing to talk about it. They so angry, dog. They are angry. We know y'all be mad. Oh, my God.

Starting point is 01:22:39 Where is this show based at? I love the Lakers. Yo, goddamn, we talking about before you can't talk about motherfuckers. They love the Lakers, man. God damn.

Starting point is 01:22:46 If the Lakers would have lost by 23, they would have wanted to talk about this thing all day long. I have the same energy every fucking time you talk about them, so I don't deviate. Okay, one day you will come over to this side. That is my goal and that is my hope. And when is that day going to be? Okay.

Starting point is 01:22:58 When? Middle of June. When? Middle of June. There's only one way. But J.J. Reddick had this to say about the offense. Junior, go play for them, motherfucker. That's the only way.

Starting point is 01:23:07 You think we're not working the phones? And they know it. You think we're not working the phones for you? That's the only way I'm going to end it. Listen, watch them. Only watch them. Rob Palenka, if you're watching this show, we would really appreciate it. I'm not spending money just to watch one fucking team.

Starting point is 01:23:24 A fine sports network. That's fine watch one fucking team a fine Sports Network Fucking watch one team We're talking about the offense JJ said I think Luca needs to be the guy that controls the offense and LeBron and Austin Reeves Can stagger everybody? They're gonna have their time to be on the ball. But all three of those guys are very intelligent basketball players. We can create mismatches. We can get teams in the blender. So do you agree with J.J. Redick saying the Lakers' offense needs to run through?

Starting point is 01:23:54 I don't think that's a J.J. call anywhere. That's coming from the front office. Wait, wait, wait. Say that again. That's crazy. That's coming from the front office. Not a player that again. That's coming from the front office, man. Not a player, not a coach is coming from the front office. Yeah, this is...

Starting point is 01:24:09 Obviously, Luka's going to be in control of the office. Because one, you just traded for a generational talent. Two, you traded for a generational talent that didn't necessarily say he wanted to be here. So now you're playing a game of we have to cater to this star because we want to keep him here for the long run. Soon to be 26. Yeah, so I think that came from front office.

Starting point is 01:24:29 So I think it's going to be that if they're winning or losing. You think it's an effective strategy moving forward? I mean, I think that's business. The game is the game. Yeah, you got to keep your stars happy. So let's just talk J.J. Redick real quick, K.J., and then we can move on. Still going?

Starting point is 01:24:47 Can we give J.J. a little love? He has to do the whole thing to get the check, bro. The fuck? He got to do the whole thing. He got to do the whole thing. The check's moved. Yeah, he got to do the whole thing. The check's moved. Man, he can't.

Starting point is 01:24:58 They've been sorting his checks, so you ain't finishing the whole thing. Underdog director positive. I'm finishing the whole fucking thing. Go ahead. Director positive. I'm not giving you the whole check until you do the whole thing, bro. Underdog, direct deposit. I'm finishing the whole fucking thing. Go ahead. Direct deposit. I'm not giving you the whole check until you do the whole thing, bro.

Starting point is 01:25:07 Underdog, direct deposit, always on time. I be like, I be trying to tell you, you interrupting him. Stop interrupting him. Yeah, he be trying to... My bad.

Starting point is 01:25:17 Thank you. Shout out to me and Undies. Thank you guys for coming through with the delicious underwear. I understand it now. Go finish this shit. Gilbert Arenas Productions pays me checks always on time. Shout out to Underdog as well. Direct deposit, never late. Go finish this shit. Gilbert Arenas Productions pays me. Check's always on time.

Starting point is 01:25:25 Shout out to Underdog as well. Direct deposit. Never wavering. Speed read through this shit like you be doing them ass. I know, right? Very well, my dad. Like you be motherfucking speed reading them ass. Hurry up.

Starting point is 01:25:36 Let's go. You can get on to the next topic. Wrap it up, B. Sit. More Lakers talk. But Nuggets head coach Michael Malone was singing a different tune after taking his first L in the Luka Brancic era, admitting his team was outplayed and outcoached.

Starting point is 01:25:50 JJ Redick said he pretty much didn't sleep after the Blazers game Thursday, preparing his game plan for the Nuggets. Lakers are 34. That motherfucker didn't sleep two days before playing. That should tell y'all something. He wasn't tired? That motherfucker said he didn't sleep for two days trying to prepare for this game. That should tell y'all something.

Starting point is 01:26:04 Then he said, we're just going to triple team him. He dedicated. That's the only thing. That motherfucker couldn't sleep. That motherfucker said he didn't sleep for two days trying to prepare for this game. That should tell y'all something. Then he said, we just going to triple team him. He dedicated. That's the only thing. That motherfucker couldn't sleep. You know what? Fuck it. Triple team him. We're throwing three at him.

Starting point is 01:26:14 That's the only thing. That's the only thing. That's the only thing. That's the only thing. That's the only thing. That's the only thing. That's the only thing. That's the only thing.

Starting point is 01:26:18 That's the only thing. That's the only thing. That's the only thing. You could have watched the previous 15 games and it would have told you. But maybe we should not only put two on, maybe we should try more. Shit. Maybe we should try and get 40. How many people are we allowed to put out the refs? Ten, please.

Starting point is 01:26:37 Ten. Those ten. Shit. People should be like JJ out here. I'll ask Waggy because you seem seem to be a little bit better mood. Yeah, man. If the score had been reversed, they would have wanted to talk about it all night long. You would have had the bed, you would have had the baby, you would have had the diaper.

Starting point is 01:26:53 He would have had all his motherfucking Laker jersey. What? Had the trash can, the lighter, all the body bag, the bat. I have to say they did, Joey. Yeah. He knew. Bro, come on. Nah, nah, nah.

Starting point is 01:27:05 That don't even make sense. No, because Lil D- No, no, no. Hey, you like who was the dude that snitched on him that got out? Yeah. He gone. He gone. He got locked up for it, D-Lock.

Starting point is 01:27:14 Nigga, you are too. The fuck up. Bron pushed Lil D-Lock so he good now. Bron pushed Lil D-Lock. Lil D-Lock no longer on the Lakers. Bron pushed him, you know. Bron got a little get back from him. So you forgiving of the Lakers now?

Starting point is 01:27:23 Yeah, man. But they traded him that summer to the last you too They got rid of you right at basically during the year They let Nick Explorers on I went to the Warriors. I remember we Play me on that Yeah, we got to show we got to talk about Don't worry. You're not me that I'm supposed to sign in New Orleans. He end up going. Oh, yeah You want to go ride the you didn't say Like a film and Denver Minnesota you said Minnesota it was in warriors. He I mean, them and Minnesota. You said Minnesota and Warriors.

Starting point is 01:28:06 He left them out. Yeah. I wasn't going to that party. You would've been a champion. Ain't no way I was going to that. No way. No, it's the fact that you told me. That's that you my dog.

Starting point is 01:28:22 He was going to start. Look, we had a party. We in the middle of the party talking about free agency. He like, Bull, I'm pulling up, bro. I swear to God, I won't. It was a look. And you was giving me some work, too. Man, get the fuck out of here.

Starting point is 01:28:35 I'm like, hey, man. I got these, too. I got them. This could be every day in New Orleans. That's for real. Hey, dog. My dog. My dog.

Starting point is 01:28:44 Yeah, I'm coming down here. Uh-huh. We will oblige Kenya to keep this thing moving. I got the dumbest motherfucking friend on planet Earth. Y'all brothers. You got this here? What? You're supposed to be a starter.

Starting point is 01:28:57 You started over here. How you just learn on me so fast? That's why people think your life is good. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No. You got to start here. Start here.

Starting point is 01:29:10 Minutes. And then you going over here knowing you was going to come off the bench. And what we was talking about, legacy, right? My name is known as a champion. I would have went there and been the voodoo. NBA champion, Spike Lee Fittings. Only he says champion. I'm a champion. Bitch, you would have still been in the NBA right now. Oh, it's not

Starting point is 01:29:36 He didn't win a champion with the Warriors that's why your chair is equivalent to my Champions on the way with all you want the Lakers. My dog. We the same type champion. No, no, no, no, no. We the same type champion. Nah, yours was in a bubble. Honorable mention. Yours was in a bubble. Yours was in a bubble. Well, start out, Nick.

Starting point is 01:29:52 No bubble dishes. No, no, his was in a bubble. No bubble dishes. I had a parade. You could have had another. I had my own bus. You did have a parade. I had my own bus.

Starting point is 01:29:59 See, it's different. We the same type champion. No, no, I had a bus with my picture on it and shit. You had a bus picture? All right, well, I think that's enough Lakers talk for today, even though we keep going. So we want to give a shout-out to ZipRecruiter for sponsoring today's podcast.

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Starting point is 01:32:06 More winners will be announced at the end of the show. Shout out. Police? Okay. Hey, bud. You was, um... I just realized I got some crazy-ass friends. I was with them later.

Starting point is 01:32:19 It was... Somehow we were using sack, bro. You was out there losing your shit. When you cussed my ass off. I'm like, hey, man, calm your young ass sack, bro. You was out there losing your shit. When you cussed my ass off. I'm like, hey, man, calm your young ass down, man. He was like, big bro, I'm just trying to be like you. I was like, no, not that way. No, no, no, not that, no.

Starting point is 01:32:35 I remember that, bro. He was losing it. I walked up, and wasn't nobody, everybody was staying away from him. I'm like, I walked right over to him, right, hey, man, calm your ass down, man. He was like, man, fuck that. Why was I on your, I walk right over to him, right? Hey, man, calm your ass down, man. He was like, man, fuck that. Why was I on your?

Starting point is 01:32:48 Nah, I was on y'all bench. No, you was losing it. Why the fuck was I over there? Oh, losing it. He said, why the fuck? Losing it. I don't know why I was even over there. Listen, he was on some key and shit.

Starting point is 01:32:58 Losing it. Why are you over there? Losing it. And I'm like, yo, hey, man. No. Man, just trying to be like you, dog. Mr. Schemmechayler. They got into it, I think.

Starting point is 01:33:08 That sound about right. I think, you know, yeah. That sound about right. You know what? That's exactly what it was. Throwing them damn elbows, man. Yeah, I didn't just have to step in. Him and Oluwakande got into it, too.

Starting point is 01:33:17 I said, listen, I walked over there. Listen, stop, man. Motherfucker, Oluwakande turned towards me like, I said, no, I'm playing peacemaker. Hard to believe. Listen, the next possession, they down a chunk in them motherfuckers. That is. Yes.

Starting point is 01:33:31 Next possession, dog. Peacemaker? Yes. I ain't never seen that. You sure you didn't? Yes. No, I wouldn't go. No, no, no, I'm not going.

Starting point is 01:33:39 Who I'm jumping? Who am I going to jump? That'll be some weak-ass shit. Somebody... I'm y'all one-on-one, and I come... Me? What I do? Shit. Y'all dope-peening, man.

Starting point is 01:33:55 Dope-peening. And then you can get yours on. You jump people when you don't know how to fight. We whooped them together. You jump people when you don't know how to fight. That's all they gonna see. That's all they gonna see in the highlight. When you scared of that one-on-one fate, that's when you jump people when you don't know how to fight. My brother and me, we whooped them. You got ass. You jump people when you don't know how to fight. That's all they gonna see. Right? That's all they gonna see in the house.

Starting point is 01:34:06 You jump people when you don't know how to fight. No. When you scared of that one-on-one fight, that's when you jump people. No, no, no. Or when you know your punches can't do nothing to that human being. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Starting point is 01:34:14 No, I'm just not going to let my homie look bad. You know, if he lose, I'll be fine. If he get dog walked, or if he get jump in. Yeah. Hell yeah. If he's not going to get in a fight, just then go break it up. I'm going to sneak him and try to pull it off. Get off my man!

Starting point is 01:34:27 Get off my man! So breaking it up ain't helping him neither? No, because he already got a dad. If he get dog-walking, you go over there and break it up, that ain't helping your friend either? Not really, because it depends whoever. You got him off of it. No, if it's just us three. Because it was going to get worse.

Starting point is 01:34:40 Yeah, but if there's other people, they got opinions. Yeah. So I got to throw a couple shots at him. He helped his friend. I got to throw a couple. See, I look at you like a whole-ass nigga. Hopefully you don't turn around and hit me either. That's it. No, because that's what's a fear to you.

Starting point is 01:34:52 See, I'm a firm believer. Listen, if somebody jump at me, listen, if y'all two jump at me, he going to beg you to stop. Because I'm going to choke the shit out you, dog. How you going to choke when you get hit? Effective strategy. I'm going to grab you, dude.'t know how you gonna show effective strategy grab you The life I chew oh yeah, we gonna get to the ground if you're on the ground I see words No, hey, you gonna ask him talking me like this with his head

Starting point is 01:35:21 You gonna be more than that. You're going to need more than two. Hey, Bull, you're going to need more than two. There's only two of them. These niggas on Bull. I believe them. Welcome to Gills Arena, Bull. These niggas on Bull. Crazy. A very average day.

Starting point is 01:35:35 But we got three former Warriors on the couch. Let's talk a little bit about the current Warriors. So they found new life in the wake of the Jimmy Butler trade. Reemerged as a threat in the West. So on Butler trade reemerges ledrit threatened the West on Sunday Jimmy made his home debut with the Warriors as clay returned to the bay Yet again with the math squad that was five and one in their last six games Putting a win over the words in that stretch So before we show the highlights from this weekend

Starting point is 01:35:56 We have to take it back to the last time these two squads faced off back on February 12th a moment after the game So after the Mavs got the win PJ P.J. Washington was spotted in street clothes, heading to the locker room, doing the night-night celebration. You see it. You can't even do that shit. You ain't play, nigga. It had nothing to do with the win.

Starting point is 01:36:13 Which was probably more insulting to Steph and Draymond and the rest of the crew. So naturally, Steph and Draymond didn't like the disrespect, got their get back. So let's take a look at the highlights, if we can. So Dubs jumped out to an early lead, never looked back. Chef Curry cooking the entire Mav squad. Steph finished the game with 30.7 assists in 29 minutes of action. He was 12 for 20 from the field, three for eight from deep.

Starting point is 01:36:36 Steph's 13th 30-point game this season. He now holds the NBA record for most 30-point games in under 30 minutes, having done so in 29 games in his career. So Jimmy Butler had another strong game, 18 points on 5 and 9 shooting along with five assists. Pajemski had a 17-13 rebounds and Draymond had 13 and 6 dimes. Kyrie and P.J. Washington both had 17 points for the Mavs. Klay finished the game with 11. Steph doing his thing in the third quarter. Here's a moment right here. Hit one and P.J. watched his grill. And then proceeded. Let's take a look.

Starting point is 01:37:08 Another one, just so he know what time it is. Right in his grill. Hit him with the night-night in the third quarter. Ladies and gentlemen, the third quarter. Steph, fuck yeah, boy. And then end of the game, obviously, Warriors up big. Draymond hit the entire map. This was the extended night-night celebration,

Starting point is 01:37:29 just to make sure they see it. Still going. Still going. Warriors have won five of their last six games, 30-27 this season, just a game and a half behind the Clippers for the sixth spot in the West. A lot has changed

Starting point is 01:37:50 Since that Jimmy Butler trade is the Warriors success since the Jimmy Butler trade a blip or a trend boogie will start with you. I Think they got better obviously I think they got a new look to their offense with you know, Jimmy it gives them a lot It gives them half court offense now They really tough defensively any Any defensive team is going to be tough. They're going to always give you problems in the playoffs, things of that nature. So they definitely got better.

Starting point is 01:38:12 Can I say they the clear cut favorite in the West? Oh, no, not by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think anybody's better than that. If I'm one seed, two seed, I'm scared as shit if I got to face them first round. So they can definitely fuck up some seasons. Would you be surprised if they went all the way? No.

Starting point is 01:38:30 Like that 2021 team? No, I wouldn't be surprised. Because all it takes is 30 to get hot. 30 to get hot is... And we started that early. I'm saying when they got off to a good start early in the season, they were 12-3 this time. Their best teams are when they're really good defensive good start early in the season. That's not how they were. They were 12-3. Their best teams are when they're really good defensively. And this is one of those teams.

Starting point is 01:38:49 Jordan Poole, Klay Thompson. Yeah. Stop it. What about it? They helped him win that game. I'm not saying they didn't. No, but nobody has seen it. Their best teams are when they're really good defensively.

Starting point is 01:38:59 I'm saying they don't have those two guys now. Those two guys were detrimental. This is a different team. So they don't have anything close to that team to be able to take it all the way down. That don't got nothing to do with now, though. That's what I'm saying. That's a whole other season. That's a whole different style

Starting point is 01:39:15 of play. You had a guy like Jimmy Butler. I'm talking about talent. That talent don't match. Jimmy Butler don't match those two guys. But Jimmy never really had talent. What? Jimmy Butler don't match Jordan Poole. He just took Miami to two conference finals. What are we talking about?

Starting point is 01:39:30 In the East, bro. I don't give a fuck. You should because he's over here now for a reason. With more people. He would still be in Miami if it made sense. With better people. No, if it made sense, I would still be there taking them where I'm supposed to go. And I would go over the top.

Starting point is 01:39:43 We're talking about Jimmy Butler. Yeah. He's now where he's supposed to go. And I would go over the top. We talking about Jimmy Butler. Yeah. He's now where he's supposed to be. Role player. Jimmy Butler's not a sidekick to Steph Curry. He's no longer Batman. Does this make sense? Who is he a sidekick to?

Starting point is 01:39:57 Huh? Jimmy Butler's not a sidekick? I said he is now. He is. So he was doing what he was doing as Batman. And he's now a sidekick. It was nobody there Nobody there in Miami when he got what I'm saying is Batman. He was Batman in Miami Default

Starting point is 01:40:14 He's by default he didn't want to be now Robin, okay No, this is where he wants to be. He wants to be here. He's not Batman. He was Batman. He was Blank Man. He was Blank Man in Miami. No, sure. No, Blank Man slandered. He was Blank Man in Miami. Now he can be what he's saying.

Starting point is 01:40:36 Robert Harris. Shout out to him. He's still a superhero, bro. He just don't like the way he's dressed. His costume is weird. He was Robert Harris. Costume. You show up when you want to. No, you're not. It the way you talk. Black man ain't no fucking superhero, bro. He was right there. Costume, name, and wings. You show up when you want to.

Starting point is 01:40:46 Nah, you're not. It's all good, my nigga. He was Meteor Man. He was Meteor Man. He was not watching that movie. Black man was self-proclaimed, brother. Who was the other guy then? Who was the other guy?

Starting point is 01:40:56 Who was the other guy? Bam was the other guy. He was saying, if he was Batman and Bam was, was it Robin? Yeah. Right? And he goes over here. Seth Curry's Batman. Now Jimmy Butler's the Robin.

Starting point is 01:41:12 But he got to play against him. What I mean? He's like an old Batman is now a Robin now. That's a big difference. That's a big difference. Because you got someone. If Batman goes down, you have someone who can be Robin.

Starting point is 01:41:27 You have someone who's going to give up on your team. No, he gave up on them. What are we talking about? He, what are you talking about? He be the young boss. Them giving up on the team. Who he give up on? My man, how he give up on them?

Starting point is 01:41:36 He used to be a Heat fan. He used to be a Heat fan. You got to forgive him. Confidence coffee. Confidence coffee. I watched him. I watched Jimmy Butler give up on the team. Wade, whoa. We didn't even put the two together. What's up? I watched Jimmy Butler give up on Seth Rogen. Wait a minute.

Starting point is 01:41:45 Wait. Whoa. We didn't even put the two together. What's that? He did the Rashawn McCants. Jimmy Butler did the Rashawn McCants. Oh, yeah. When you gave up on Miami, he did too.

Starting point is 01:41:56 Oh. That's just- Deep. I just thought about it. He was waiting on that? No, I just thought about it. I was just like, wait. You cooking, bro.

Starting point is 01:42:04 You cooking. When you- He's cooking. You cooking, bro. You cooking. When you... You cooking, bro. He quit on the same shit. You jump shit. I be jump shit. You did leave the heat afraid to go to the Celtics. And he left to come to the Celtics. Where was I before? Heat. Where were you before the Heat?

Starting point is 01:42:20 You answer it. You know where I was. Before the Heat? Yes. Before the Heat, I was with the Celtics. No, you wasn't. You know where I was. Before the heat? Yes. Before the heat, I was with the Celtics. No, you wasn't. That was the same season. I was with the Celtics. It was the same season. And I chose Miami.

Starting point is 01:42:30 It was the same season. And then you went back to Boston? And I went back to Boston. And now you have shifted to New York? New York. Okay. I know what I'm doing. Now you're in New York.

Starting point is 01:42:37 I know what I'm doing. So he jumped ship just like Jim did. I jumped ship because he showed up in the emo shit with his nails painted and a motherfucking wig or some shit. I said, this is not the type of dude I'm about to bet on for you niggas to come in here and motherfucking crush me every fucking week and I got to live with Jimmy Butler playing 70, 70 games. Come on, man.

Starting point is 01:42:55 Fuck all that. His shit was late for the side. Yeah, I'm cool. Emo was his year. He went to the... I'm cool, man. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Confidence, confidence.

Starting point is 01:43:04 It wasn't emo. It was last year. It was last year. Emo was last year. The Bucks was last year. That shit was, man. I'm cool, man. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Confidence, confidence. It wasn't Emo. It was last year. It was last year. Emo was last year. The Bucks was last year. That shit was sick. Come on, man. I was in the pro league.

Starting point is 01:43:11 Come on, that's the pro league. That was crazy. We asked the chat. We said the Warriors' recent success is either for real or Fugazi. 64% say for real. So they think that this squad, like you said, if you're the first or second seed, you don't want to see these Warriors. They're really good defensively. How can y'all say that? 84% say for real. So they think that this squad On that team

Starting point is 01:43:44 Who's gonna guard Joker on the Warriors well Well, Draymond has a better chance than anybody. Man, Draymond's my height. Your height. I can't even guard Joker. Come on, man. He's been guarding nobody, though. That don't mean shit. Why you gotta throw me in it? Because you threw yourself in it.

Starting point is 01:43:53 Now you acting like him. What the fuck you mean? You threw yourself in it. Now you acting like him. See, that's why. My bad. No, we gonna have to have a conversation. I told you we gonna have a conversation.

Starting point is 01:44:01 These are the type of friends that this type of people like hating with. That's the problem. We got here. Come on over here. This is the type of people that like to hang with me. You didn't go play opening. That's the problem. Come on, over here. Come over here. These are the type of people that like to hang with me. Come on over here. We cool. We just barfing.

Starting point is 01:44:09 This ain't a lot about me, man. I got crazy people that like to hang with me. Get the go over. Come on, we just chill, man. We don't want no hating shit over here. Just keep it real over here. You ain't got to worry about none of that. But no, how can that hurt?

Starting point is 01:44:21 You think the Warriors are better than the Lakers? Yes. Defensively. Defensively? Wow. They are a really good team. When did all this defense shit start being the number one thing, man? But no, how can that hurt? Like, you think the Warriors are better than the Lakers? Yes. Defensively. Defensively? Wow. They are a really good team. When did all this defense shit start being the number one thing, man?

Starting point is 01:44:29 Stop, man. All right, that's why the Raiders down. That's why the Raiders is down. Niggas don't come to see defense. 1950 and 60. Niggas want to come to see people pick up 94 feet. That's why the Raiders down. That's why the Raiders down.

Starting point is 01:44:40 The niggas saying they're not playing hard. They're not picking up 94 feet. Niggas don't want to see that shit in the All-Star game. What the fuck, man? I came to see a nigga picking them up from full court to full court. But go get fucking Ben Wallace to get them out there and goddamn some.

Starting point is 01:44:54 Who did I say did? Niggas talking niggas. Who did I say did? You don't find niggas at 24 that dive on flows and shit like that. Who did it? Nobody going to see that shit, man. Who did it?

Starting point is 01:45:02 Goddamn. Who did it? I don't know. Isaac Hayes, mother fucker. Bootsy Collins. Bootsy man. Who did it? God damn. Who did it? I don't know. Isaac Haynes. Who the fuck is that? Kobe Bryant. Bootsie Collins. It was Kobe Bryant.

Starting point is 01:45:08 Who's out there? It was Kobe Bryant. One time. I'm not sure about that. It was your favorite. You guys favorite Laker, right? Oh my Lord. Right?

Starting point is 01:45:16 Stop that, man. It was Kobe Bryant. So what you're saying? It was Kobe Bryant. He did it one time. No, it wasn't one time, bro. He did it all night. He did it all night.

Starting point is 01:45:23 No, he didn't. You didn't watch the mic one? He was laughing with Michael. He didn't watch the mic. He was laughing with Michael. wasn't one time, bro. He did it all. He did it all. No, he didn't. You didn't watch the mic one? He was laughing with Michael. He was laughing with Michael. Don't make me do it. He was laughing with Michael. What's in the bag? Jump in there.

Starting point is 01:45:32 Well, he was laughing with Michael. Get that shit out of here, Michael. He was happy to be with next to Michael. I guess now the game is not close enough at the end where they get to go hard like previous. That's it. It's such a big gap. It's such a big gap. What are we doing? Down 40 and like, uh... We ain't got no chance. You know, you know, I'm gonna tell you what makes it look bad. When you sit there and think about it, it be them half court

Starting point is 01:45:56 shots. Yeah. It be the half court, everybody sit there doing this, laying on the flimby. The jokers running side to side like this. That would be... Joker running like this, that would do it. That's the shit. Because once, like... You see Joker doing this shit side to side. And he's like, fuck this game.

Starting point is 01:46:13 You gotta go shoot one now. You say, fuck this game. And you make it now. Joker be running like a nigga, bump by him like this. And he's gonna go shoot one and make one. And then, like, a box of diamonds. Go shoot one and it just... That's the domino effect a motherfucker shooting

Starting point is 01:46:25 42-footers, right? I was gonna say maybe just knock off the three then. No three-pointers? No, just like back in the 60s, what ends up happening is they scored more because no threes. We want a game full of layups

Starting point is 01:46:44 and middies. You're not settling for the threes. You're not throwing a bunch of... Because that's what I'm saying, when you think about it... If they ain't settling for threes, they gonna settle for twos. Yeah, but threes are more than twos. Long twos at that. Very long. Maybe.

Starting point is 01:46:58 I'm still gonna pull up from far. Like, if I'm open, like... But then it's more of a bad shot than it is. No, it's not. It's just gonna be a long ass two. The reason you shoot the three is because a bad shot. No, it's not. This is going to be a long-ass two. The reason you shoot the three is because three is more than two. That's fine. That's the reason.

Starting point is 01:47:09 If you're shooting a long two instead of getting a layup, get your ass out of the game. So as a player, you're out of here. As a player in the All-Star game, if I'm guarding a guy that can only shoot a two, I'm going to just back up and make him shoot a long-ass two. Yeah. What's the fucking difference?

Starting point is 01:47:22 Well, he's not going to take that shot. Yes, he is. He's not. Because it's not a three. This is a three. guys to yeah what's the fucking difference right if you was guarding a big that's not? Because he not. He going to shoot that bitch. He shooting that shit. He's going to drive that motherfucker. Know the fuck he's not. It's just going to count as a long two.

Starting point is 01:47:49 He going to say, I thought it was a two. No. I thought it was a three. My bad. I thought it was a three. I thought it was a three. It's a two. My bad, Coach.

Starting point is 01:47:57 I thought it was a three. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm thought it was a three. I'm done.

Starting point is 01:48:05 I'm done. Oh, shit. I'm done. I'm done. Ladies and gentlemen. Nick, that's my guy, man. I'm from the town, though. I'm from the town.

Starting point is 01:48:13 He has his money. That's my guy. Oh, shit. Ladies and gentlemen, as you probably noticed, we have not been in the arena for a while, so it's a little bit more charged up than usual today. Oh, shit. That's my guy, bro. I know his hands always like that.

Starting point is 01:48:21 That's my guy, bro. I know his hands always like that. I know his hands always like that. I know his hands always like that. I know his hands always like that. I know his hands always like that. I know his hands always like that. I know his hands always like that. Ladies and gentlemen, as you probably noticed, we have not been in the arena for a while, so it's a little bit more charged up than usual today. My God, bro. I know his hands always like that. As an All-Star, you made it. What would have made you play harder?

Starting point is 01:48:38 What if they had to? I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. My view of All-Star, I never understood it. Like, it's like this. It's considered an all-star break. It's supposed to be a break for the players in the league. I never understood it to the point where if you're one of the best players in the league,

Starting point is 01:48:55 you don't get a break at all. You got to get to the play. They're going to work you. So, for me, it's just like, I get it. Like, if I'm an all-star, I'm one of the main guys on my team. I'm playing 40 minutes a night. I come into the weekend. They work the shit I get it. Like, if I'm an all-star, I'm one of the main guys on my team. I'm playing 40 minutes a night. I come into the weekend, they work the shit out. Like, this is the behind the scenes.

Starting point is 01:49:10 They work the shit out you behind the scenes. You got 20 events before the game. You're doing all this shit. Boom, we get to the game. Now y'all expecting me to go out. He got 94 feet. Guard 94 feet. So I'm going to tell you what it is, right?

Starting point is 01:49:24 What is it? So humor me is, right? What is it? So it's the, no, so humor me here, right? All Star, whatever city is in, it's a circus tent, right? The owners come watch my product. It's this fucking circus. Y'all go out here and dance with the goddamn people. I mean, yeah.

Starting point is 01:49:44 Right? Don't dance too much, motherfucker. Don and dance with the goddamn people. Mm. I mean, yeah. Well, all right. Don't dance too much, motherfucker. Don't dance too much, motherfucker. But, hey, I want you to dance now. But not too hard. But not too hard. But now that you put it that way, I'm like, oh, damn, this is a big-ass circus, right?

Starting point is 01:49:56 It is. No, it's not a circus. It's a big-ass circus. The circus is in town, right? You said you ain't getting nobody. So who is the biggest act? Absolutely. And that's why he... But I think that's the issue. is in town, right? You said you ain't getting nobody. So who is the biggest asset? Wait up. That's good.

Starting point is 01:50:05 Absolutely. But that's why it... But I think that's the issue. The fans want to complain. It's like on one side you trying to push this product, but at the same time, as the product, you trying to reserve yourself for the rest of the fucking set. So we could be a good product. So we could be a good product.

Starting point is 01:50:19 It's no different than vacation. You go out on a vacation, you work all year, you go on a vacation. When you leave that vacation, motherfucker, you tired. Yeah. So what's the fucking difference? I don't want the All-Star. I'm fucking exhausted from the weekend. I'm going right back into the 82-game season.

Starting point is 01:50:34 So, Boogie, do you respect maybe an older player who has the foresight to say, you know what, I'm not going to play in the All-Star game. I'm going to concentrate trying to make this championship. I can't sit here and say I respect it because it's a responsibility that comes with all this. But I done did it about 20 times. That didn't go the way you wanted. That didn't go the way you wanted. No, no, no. I championship. I can't sit here and say I respect it because it's a responsibility that comes with all of this. But I done did it about 20 times. That didn't go the way you wanted. That didn't go the way you wanted. No, no, no.

Starting point is 01:50:48 That didn't go the way you wanted. I know. I know. I know we're trying to defend what LeBron did. No, no, no. But I still try. But I still try. But I get to cancel this shit.

Starting point is 01:50:56 I get both sides of it. If LeBron. If I'm LeBron, motherfucker, I've been doing this for 21 years. I'm still the face of the NBA. If I want a fucking break on All-Star weekend, I deserve a fucking break.

Starting point is 01:51:07 If you're the NBA... I came back over. Came back over. They should cancel the game. No, no, if you're the NBA... What's the responsibility? No, no, here's the responsibility too. If you're the NBA and Braun would have said he wasn't playing Saturday, would you have been happy with him doing that as the NBA?

Starting point is 01:51:23 No. You the NBA. I think they coordinated it That was playing like You don't want to play let's not announce it early less less announcer right before so it doesn't look like or Or let's get was plan since it's a circus Let's get other clowns out there. Let's get other clowns. Get a young clown in here. Let's get some other clowns. Let's have the people. Both teams are the best. The main tiger we came to see, he ain't growling tonight.

Starting point is 01:51:50 Let's get the best players a break. It wasn't a lot of clowns. He ain't growling tonight. He ain't coming out tonight, so he ain't going to be able to see. Did you ever play any of them going out there thinking, I'm going to play this one hard? I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest.

Starting point is 01:52:01 My first two, in my head, like, and then it's politics behind that part. Like, even when it comes to the minutes and shit. So in my head, I'm like, man, I get out here. I'm going to go hard. I'm going to try to go get me a fucking MVP until I realize this is sheep with everybody's time on that motherfucker.

Starting point is 01:52:19 And DeMarcus, you're going to play about 11 minutes in this all-star game. So yeah, in my mind, I'm going full throttle. But once I realized, I'm like, oh shit. Once you realize you ain't playing, you not... Yeah, once you realize you're not playing, you not going hard. I didn't know how long it was going to be. But in those 11, I went hard.

Starting point is 01:52:39 So my second time around, it's the same thing. My second time around, I'm like, alright right, I got my name a little bigger. I might get about 20 minutes. Next year, it was about 15. Damn. So I don't think the only people that really get an opportunity to go out there and play hard are the starters. And it makes sense. Those are the guys the fans voted in.

Starting point is 01:53:02 That's who they want to see the most. And I tried to go with that logic with the betting shit, the little thing we did, the draft. I tried to go with the young guys thinking this their third time. Them motherfuckers going to come out, play hard, be energetic. Them motherfuckers. Them young punks didn't do nothing. They sat back and was watching.

Starting point is 01:53:20 Big eyes. They got to watch it. My first one, I'm thinking it's going to be multiple, but I asked J.K. and he told me just go out and be you, right? Mm-hmm. I had my point guard there, so it made it easier for me. But I just went out there, mother. I was just running around, just having motherfucking fun.

Starting point is 01:53:33 It was, hey. I know they were looking at me like, calm down, young whippersnapper. But I said, hey, I'm going to play hard. We got to give credit to, you know, Wimby, we give you credit, dog. Because we've seen you out there going hard. Yeah. We've seen you even ask these motherfuckers, you're because we've seen you out there going hard. We've seen you even

Starting point is 01:53:45 ask these motherfuckers, you're going hard, right? You're going hard? We're going. Everybody going hard, right? Hell yeah, we are. They didn't. Lay up. Lay up. He was mad as hell. So we've seen you going hard, but as you can

Starting point is 01:54:01 see, going hard takes all ten motherfucking players out there. It's hard. And the referees. Yeah. Because they don't want to call foul. Yeah, they don't. So because they don't want to call foul, I'm not going to go and make a lip in these two motherfuckers down there clotheslining today.

Starting point is 01:54:18 Okay? Right? Can't you like, they ain't doing no fouls? Come on in here. Yeah. Yeah. Bitch, I'm not playing hard anymore. You know the fact.

Starting point is 01:54:27 Pull up 37. That's crazy. Yeah, people don't understand it. They're not calling fouls in this game, which means I'm not fucking driving if somebody decide they want to play real defense. But if somebody got the mindset to hit you in your head in an all-star game, that's crazy.

Starting point is 01:54:42 Like KD got, that was a foul foul. They realized you didn't call it, so they tried it again, then got mad you called it. Like, those are the things that's going on. You're not even repping it like it's a real game for me to be playing it like it's a real game. Well, Gil, speaking of Wimby, we've got to talk about

Starting point is 01:54:59 him for a little bit. Spurs got some bad news last week after it was announced that defensive player of the year frontrunner, Victor Wimby, I'm expecting announced that defensive player of the year, front runner, Victor Mwimayama, expected to miss the rest of the season with a deep, vain blood clot in his right shoulder called thrombosis for the square terminology. Good news, Spurs believe this is an isolated condition,

Starting point is 01:55:15 and Wamba Wamba, as he's known on this show, should make a full recovery in time for the start of next season. So Pistons forward to Sword Thompson had a similar injury last season. Brandon Ingram had one in 2019. They both missed the rest of those seasons, came back and were good to go after that. After winning Rookie of the Year, becoming the first rookie to be a first team

Starting point is 01:55:32 all-defensive selection last season, Wamba Wamba was doing work in his sophomore campaign, making his first All-Star game, looking to become the youngest player in the league here to win Defensive Player of the Year. So Wimby finishes his season averaging 24 points, 11 rebounds, 4 assists, league leading, 3.8 blocks, we're gonna say four.

Starting point is 01:55:49 With 48, 35, 84 shooting splits. So, Big, I'm gonna ask you first, what's your reaction to Wimby suffering a season-ending blood clot? Sucks, it's unfortunate. You know, it's kind of scary in general, kind of, you know, what's going on with the Spurs, even with Pop, you know, it's a lot of health concerns over there.

Starting point is 01:56:06 So, you know, hopefully all that gets, you know, under control. It's a team that's got a really, really bright future. I would love to be able to see Pop continue coaching as well and, you know, lead that team, you know, to success. It's not necessarily a bad thing that he's getting shut down this late in the season. It puts them in a position to get a Cooper flag, an H. Bailey. So you only add to that the more they already got. So they got two first-round picks.

Starting point is 01:56:31 They got their own pick, and they got the Hawks unprotected. So yeah, it's not necessarily... In a way, it could be a blessing in disguise, because it gives them time to cook up, continue to build that young squad up, give everybody time to get healthy. You know, De'Aaron Fox still continues to get his feet wet over there with a new organization. So you come in next year with high expectations, I would say. So not the exact situation, but David Robinson got hurt

Starting point is 01:56:56 that the Spurs were able to draft Tim Duncan. Exactly. We saw what happened there. So not the exact same situation. Similar, similar. See, that's why they should have gave the boys a goddamn award last year. So not the same same situation right similar See that's why they should have gave the boys goddamn award last year With the game when the young

Starting point is 01:57:16 Is war last year like that's a valid point right? Bullshit now you know you out this year now. He's ineligible for his award like this. That's valid Get a man for his award. That's valid. Get that, man? He was a better defensive player. He was a better defensive player. He was still the best defensive player in the league. Come on, man. It wasn't even close.

Starting point is 01:57:29 It wasn't even close. What does winning have to do with you being a defensive player? A lot. Defensive player of the year isn't a team award. Just like assist is not a team award.

Starting point is 01:57:37 Just like rebound is not a team award. Scoring title's not a team award. It's only a reward. If that's a fucking lose, everybody lose. Why would you get the shit? You get anything you want. Being a defensive lose. Everybody lose. Why would you get the shit?

Starting point is 01:57:45 You get everything you want. You know what I'm saying? So being a defensive player- Goddamn. We just talked about- That's what it sounds like, right? So it's actually a little more impressive if you think about it. Because if you a defensive guy and you willing to go out there and show it every night on

Starting point is 01:57:58 a losing team, that's even more credit to you. So if I get two blocks- It was more than that. Or three blocks. It was more than that. Three blocks blocks. It was more than that. Three blocks. It was like 3.7. If you're averaging three blocks a game, you're a generational talent.

Starting point is 01:58:09 Hell yeah, you deserve it. If you go out there and average 12 rebounds, should you win rebounding? Hey, man. The rebounding of the year? If you lead the league in steals on a bad team, you shouldn't get that award? You led the league in steals. Hey, man. Scoring titles?

Starting point is 01:58:25 I mean, what is it? Somebody got to do it. I don't know. Somebody got to do what? That's like saying if I score 30 and I lose every night, I should be MVP? No, you get scoring. If you lead the league, you get scoring title. If I score, I'm going to score 35 and win and lose every night.

Starting point is 01:58:40 It's harder to score. It's harder to average 30 on the losing team than the winning team. That's a great point. Uh-oh. So what makes the MVP? You the main person. So what makes the MVP? You're average 30 on the losing team than the winning team. That's a great point. So what makes the MVP? You the main person. You're the scouting report. You are the scouting report. Thank you. I'm what I'm talking about.

Starting point is 01:58:52 And I hate those scouting reports. I hate when people make up that bullshit narrative. Hold on, hold on. What you saying, Boogie? Say that shit again. I hate when people make that bullshit narrative of where you're a top scoring guy because you're on a losing team. That actually makes that shit way harder. If you're the only guy teams are focused on on a nightly basis and you still go out there

Starting point is 01:59:17 and average 30, that's harder to do than a guy that has a Steph Curry or a Clay Thompson. Should he get the MVP? Huh? Should he get the MVP? Huh? Should he get the MVP? I'm not saying that. I'm asking you. He said he's not saying that. I'm not saying that.

Starting point is 01:59:30 I just asked him a question. I didn't see you was saying it. I'm not saying it. All I'm saying is that narrative around that, that's bullshit. And that's not even a common thing. We see guys average 30 on losing teams all the time. That's not a common thing. No, it's not.

Starting point is 01:59:42 Because it's fucking hard to do. No, it ain't. When the fuck did you do it? Y'all ain't got a score report. Y'all ain't got a common thing. No, it's not because it's fucking hard to do Yes Y'all ain't got a focus time report who gon scout the fucking losing team. All right, so let me ask you all right So when y'all fucking film. Duh, who was? I don't even think he had shoot around when we played sack. It felt like sack in town. Okay. Shit.

Starting point is 02:00:11 Okay. Fuck. Who we got? Who we got? Who we got? Who we got? Who we got? Who we got?

Starting point is 02:00:19 Who we got? Who we got? Who we got? Who we got? Who we got? Who we got? Who we got? Who we got? Who we got it. You got to stop the one person Thomas Thomas Kurt Thomas Kitty Thomas, who could get any time? No, I'm Brooklyn only average like 30. No, I'm sorry I'm sorry. How much he was average like 20. He's never average starting bro. Yeah, it was something

Starting point is 02:00:40 Sold it out like 27 Yeah, it was something. Yeah, he played games Everybody's guarding him. This is what we're going to do. We're going to score three motherfuckers on him. Lamello. Same thing. I hate that shit.

Starting point is 02:00:53 That's a dumbass narrative, right? If he already scored 30, I got to go 1,000 miles an hour. If this is a losing team and there's one guy to focus on, we know this guy averages 30. There's one guy to focus on. And you can't stop him? You're sitting here saying that's easy to do. But what he's saying is 30 points on a bad team

Starting point is 02:01:07 Somebody got to get the majority of the points if you every night majority If your talent is gonna speak, I know this is all saying there's a hundred y'all are averaging a hundred points a game That team your own You're the number one focus, right? You're the number one guy. You're going to get 50%. And if it was that simple, we would see guys averaging 30 on losing teams all the time. If they were good enough. If they were good enough. That's the point I'm making.

Starting point is 02:01:32 Yes. You can still be a really, really good player on a losing team. Or you can be on a losing team and just be an average guy. Right. So why does it make it to where you're you just a stat guy if you're on the losing team you're still a really good player like no one ever you can still tell the difference saying that it's harder yes absolutely if i'm the if if you're a guard if we know that you're gonna get if there's one guy averaging 30 on the team you can take as many shots as you want to. You can take all the shots you want to average. Time out. Time out.

Starting point is 02:02:05 You don't have nobody else in your team. You still got to score those points. No, it's not. No, it's not. So let's put it in a good team situation. What's harder to guard? What's harder to guard? One guy averaging 30 or three guys averaging 20?

Starting point is 02:02:24 What's harder to guard? Three guys averaging 30 or three guys averaging 20? What's harder to guard? Guard somebody that can shoot any shot he wants. So what are we talking about? It's harder to guard somebody that can shoot any shot. Yeah, the three guys that average 20. No. Because you can't scout for those three. Yes, we can.

Starting point is 02:02:35 No, you can't. It's easy to scout for one person. So let's put it in a winning situation. No, I'm saying we can scout for the three guys. So I said what is harder to stop? The one person? The one person? The one, yeah, for sure.

Starting point is 02:02:51 What? The one guy is easier to stop. So it was easy? Oh, yeah, okay, yeah. The one guy is easier to stop. Everybody? So when you look at it in the reverse, the one guy that has to go against the whole team that's scouting him,

Starting point is 02:03:04 his job is harder compared to those three guys that's going in. It might be easier for us to stop him, but you're saying that it's harder to score 30. It's not, my nigga, because you have so many other options to score 30. I didn't say it was hard to score 30. I said it's hard to average 30. It's a difference.

Starting point is 02:03:20 The same as the average of my shot attempts, my efficiency. If I'm out there... All that goes into play. T-Mac. Shoot any shot he want? T-Mac averaged 30.

Starting point is 02:03:30 Yeah. On the bad team. Yeah. I was going to win it. And we're stuck four motherfuckers on. And it's T-Mac, nigga. We're stuck four motherfuckers on. Hold on.

Starting point is 02:03:38 So, therefore, let's put it in a winning situation. What the fuck are we saying? Awards that T-Mac deserves. Allen Iverson. Scoring title, nigga. Like he got. Let's put it in a winning situation. Let's put it in a winning situation. So, outside. Let's put it in. Let's put it in a winning situation. Outside of the scoring title.

Starting point is 02:03:46 So let's put it in a winning situation. Put it in a winning situation. Put it in a winning situation. You don't deserve MVP. You don't deserve anything. So that means T-Mac isn't good because he had 30. He had the easiest way

Starting point is 02:03:55 to 30 points a game because he didn't have to pass to nobody else. He's not easy. He literally can take all the shots to average 40. When you don't have to pass to somebody else, it's easy.

Starting point is 02:04:06 I can take a night off and still have 30. He had 63 and three quarters. Y'all tripping. So if a team comes in and double teams you every single night, that's easy. That's easy. That's the only score. You just do it. We just triple teamed them.

Starting point is 02:04:23 You just went from here to here. You just went from here to here. That shit wasn't easy for him, not once. You just went from here to here. We just tripled. Now we're talking about double teaming. We just tripled. That's what happens when you're the only option. Listen, when you are the only option, you go get your numbers regardless. Regardless.

Starting point is 02:04:37 Regardless. That's not true. Then why isn't it more guys averaging on bad teams? Kevin Martin, before he got to sack, before you got to sack, he was averaging 28. What's that mean? He's not a good scorer? That means that he's on sack. And you can average 28 if you're the only nigga on sack.

Starting point is 02:04:50 But does that mean he's not a good scorer? Nigga, what was the rookie of the year? Evans. 20 a game. Nobody was there. I can average 20 a game because I don't got a pass to nobody else. But did he average 20 a game after that when Marcus came in? When Isaiah came in?

Starting point is 02:05:06 When other niggas that can play? Nah, it's because the number. Because my attempts go down. No, he actually got hurt. He actually got hurt. But his attempts go down. No, he got hurt. He got hurt.

Starting point is 02:05:15 You got to swing that bitch now. He over here. Boogie in here. You can't just go down. You can't just shoot when he shot you. Hold on. You can't go tweet, tweet, tweet. I don't even sound right, bro.

Starting point is 02:05:25 His rookie year, he had the ball in his hands all the time. He could have averaged 28. He could have. But he didn't. He wasn't effective. Because he wasn't effective. But he shot that bitch every time. But he didn't. He wasn't effective. You're just saying something. That don't even got nothing to do with what we're saying. The nigga didn't average 30.

Starting point is 02:05:42 What the fuck I got to do with it for him to do it on a bad team? He had the opportunity and he didn't do it. What the fuck I got to do with him to do it on a bad team? He had the opportunity and he didn't do it, which proves my point. It's not easy to do. Wait, wait, wait. Hold the fuck on. You.

Starting point is 02:05:55 You playing the Drew, right? They call you what? I am. Was it harder? Because we know your team when your ass was trash. Yeah, I played with all my homies. With all your homies. When everybody was triple teaming you.

Starting point is 02:06:11 And I still had 67. You still had 67. So was it easy for you? Is it? Yes. Was it easy? It was easy. I can shoot.

Starting point is 02:06:19 I can shoot. I won't. I can walk past half court like fucking Dave Lillard. You was just a regular ass scorer then, but you was just on a horrible team to score. I won't. I can shoot the ball any time. He can walk past half court like fucking Dave Livers on the court. You can do whatever you want. You was just a regular ass scorer then, but you was just on a horrible team to score. Or were you just that skilled that you can beat through double teams? I could shoot any shot I wanted. Any time.

Starting point is 02:06:35 He could decide to shoot. You had a Green Lane Washington didn't you? Nah, he was fucking me. Nah, after that. Oh yeah, when he left? Yeah. What you after? John Wall was still there.

Starting point is 02:06:43 Nah, nah, don't bring John into this shit. John came back. John was a rookie, so that ain't, yeah, when he left? Yeah. What you average? John Wall was still there. Nah, nah, don't bring John into this shit. John came back. John was a rookie, so that ain't got enough. John was still the number one pick, boo. That's cool, he was a rookie. What you average?

Starting point is 02:06:53 He was the number one pick that got a motherfucker like him out of there. So you the second option now. What did you average? 18. Shut the fuck up, man. I did. It's easy, though. It is.

Starting point is 02:07:04 If it's easy on the bad team, you should at least average 25. It's hard. John Wall got the keys. You had the keys? You was the second option. I was there. You was the second option on the bad team with a rookie point guard. You should at least average 25 if that shit was that easy.

Starting point is 02:07:19 I'll be honest with you. I'll just throw a hypothetical. Yeah. I played 26 minutes a game, averaged 15. If I play more minutes on a bad team like Minnesota, I can definitely average 26 a hypothetical. Yeah. I played 26 minutes a game, averaged 15. If I play more minutes on a bad team like Minnesota, I can definitely average 26 a game. Hold on. You averaged 15 in 26 minutes?

Starting point is 02:07:32 Mm-hmm. And your jump was going to be to 25? Because I didn't have no plays. I didn't do... Literally, the next year was supposed to be, Chad, you're the second option. It's you and Big Al. Chad, I played you in Minnesota, bro.

Starting point is 02:07:44 Yeah. What about it? What about it? Do you... What about it? Wait, Chad, you're the second option. It's you and Big Al. Chad, I played you in Minnesota, bro. Yeah. What about it? What about it? Wait, hold on. What about it? What you was saying? We played you, too. I seen Big Al play against you, too. What that mean? I got my bucket. We have a Jordan pool. What that mean? We have a Jordan pool.

Starting point is 02:08:00 15-4. Off the bench. We have a Jordan pool example where a dude was... No, we're not going to go. No, let's stay here. 15 food. Off the bench. Off the bench. Cool. Put us anywhere. We have a Jordan Poole example where a dude was- No, we're not going to go. No, let's stay here. No, no, no, let's stay here. We can't just go.

Starting point is 02:08:11 Yours is a hypothetical. Exactly. That's the point. No, we don't want hypothetical. We want real. When you go personal, listen. When you start going personal- We want real.

Starting point is 02:08:19 That's when you start getting cooked. We want real. When you go personal, because we're talking about who can do what. We want real. When you have an opportunity. No, we want real. That is real. I just named all these guys.

Starting point is 02:08:28 That's a hypothetical. You said if you could get 10 more minutes, we're not even talking about that. I named all these guys. I got a perfect example, and we know who it is. He came off the bench, right, on a championship team. I like this. He averaged 20 on that team. He did.

Starting point is 02:08:46 Jordan Poole. No one doubled him. No one really scouted for him because they have these players. We already had this conversation. He goes to Washington. Here we go. He's now the focal point. He is the main focal point on the defensive scouting report.

Starting point is 02:09:01 He averages 17. He went down three points, and there's no Steph, Clay, Ultimate Greenlight. Yeah, it's an ultimate. Dude, whatever the fuck. Nah, that was good. The ball in his hand. We've seen what he was doing on his team. That's the point we making. Because now he gets every side. Kuzma's on his team, bro. What do you mean? Man, come on, bro. Where was Prazingis? Come on. Boston. Excuse me? No, he was in Dallas.

Starting point is 02:09:27 Say it again so I know y'all know ball. Where was Prazingis? Boston. When Jordan Poole got there. Yes! Yes. He was. Switch lines.

Starting point is 02:09:36 Jordan Poole averaged him 20 points. Jordan Poole averaged him 20 points. Cal Poole was still there. Jordan Poole averaged him 20 points still. No, Jordan Poole was still there. Cal Poole was number one. So he didn't average? No, he wasn't, bro.

Starting point is 02:09:44 Wait, so Jordan Poole was number one. Jordan Poole was number one. Jordan Poole was number one. Jordan Poole was number one. Cal Poole was still there. So I'm with me. Jordan Poole averaging 20 points still. He was the number one? Jordan? No, Jordan Poole was still there. Cal Poole was the number one. So he can average? No, he wasn't, bro. Wait, so he can average 20 points, but he can't... Where was Cal Poole?

Starting point is 02:09:52 Steph Curry. No, he wasn't. But he can't... Come on, Voodie. He can't average 20 points. He can't average 20 points. Come on, Voodie. Does he mentally not?

Starting point is 02:10:00 You act like the game doesn't affect you. Less shot attempts in his first year with the Wizards than in last year with the Lions. That was violent, bro. You can't ignore that. Because he is double-teamed now. You come off the pick and roll. I got to double you now. No, he wouldn't.

Starting point is 02:10:12 That shit is disgusting. I can jump you now. I know what we're doing now. I can jump you. No, he wouldn't. What are you talking about? I don't have to switch. No, he wouldn't.

Starting point is 02:10:18 You come off the pick and roll. You got Gafford with you. Trap. No, he wouldn't. Somebody got to score. Mother fucking trap. Somebody got to score. Why didn't he then? Somebody got to score. Why didn't Oh, wait, wait. Somebody got to score. Motherfucking trap. Somebody got to score. Why didn't he then?

Starting point is 02:10:26 Somebody got to score. Why didn't he? You said somebody? Somebody got to score. Why didn't he? Somebody got to score, bro. Because the game plan has changed. Somebody got to score.

Starting point is 02:10:34 Let's go. Somebody got to score. Speaking of that, what's the food for the 20 something? Let's go. What am I, 20? Let's go. I'm talking about this season before Detroit. Oh, he didn't want to be there no more.

Starting point is 02:10:42 Let's go. He didn't want to be there no more. Let's go. He didn't want to be there no more. He didn't. It was obvious. Nobody want to be in the Wizards uniform. 15. The average is 15. Kool's average is 15 points.

Starting point is 02:10:52 Come on, man. What are we talking about? I said when he got there, nigga. What was he after last year? When? I don't know who got there. He left the team in school. 22.

Starting point is 02:10:59 What were y'all talking about? 22. Come on, man. Stop playing with me, man. So 22 on the personal, man. So he can go. You got a Stop playing with me, man. So 22 on the bat. It's so personal, man. So he can go. You got a better chance than me going personal.

Starting point is 02:11:07 So he can score 20 as a pitch player with Steph Curry and Clay on the team, and you telling me he having trouble with... Come on, dawg. What are y'all talking about? What are y'all talking about? What are y'all talking about? He averaged 22 before you got here, nigga. Shut up out here. Before he got here...

Starting point is 02:11:20 What y'all talking about? What? Y'all don't even make any sense. Average 15.6 shot attempts per game his last season with the Warriors, 15.2 shot attempts in his first season with the Warriors. Yeah, that makes sense because we can't do nothing with him because we got to pay attention to Kerr, Curry,

Starting point is 02:11:35 and that motherfucking name play right there. So he gets to play one on one. Well, he's in Washington. You come off a pick and roll. You getting blipped. Trapped. Yeah. Oh, shit. What's wrong with Dame Leonard now?

Starting point is 02:11:47 Dame on Portland shot every shot. Now he's on Milwaukee. What's the difference? Because he's number two. He's number two. He's number two. So Jordan Poole. And he got a Hall of Fame as a team.

Starting point is 02:11:57 Y'all love moving that motherfucker. What goal post we moving? We talking about Giannis. We ain't talking about fucking Kuzma. You went from no scouting report to now you by yourself. Move the gold, man. You are the focal of the scouting report. I love talking to niggas like y'all.

Starting point is 02:12:13 We circle the block. We circle the block. I don't have to. It's obvious. We can rewind this shit back. You circled it. We already know. Rashad is the obvious.

Starting point is 02:12:23 Regularly. You said somebody got a score. I'm saying why everybody got a week. Why did Poole do it then? He was by himself. They left my belt because they didn't want to see it. They did not bring the belt today. They did not bring the belt today.

Starting point is 02:12:33 Now, what you going to say about Iverson? So, I got a question. So, should Jordan Poole be averaging more points than he did in Golden State? That's not a question. No. He should. No? Okay.

Starting point is 02:12:43 Why not? It could be the system. No? No. Okay. Why not? He should be the system. He could be the system. Because he don't want to be there. Yeah.

Starting point is 02:12:51 Oh, hey, I know, did we, I think, can somebody find- So he quit on the team? No, Wizards could have quit on him. I think we all talked about that. This is why it's so weird that you're here and we're doing this shit again. We already done did all this. We did have Andre Iguodala on this couch and we thought thought, hey, conservatively, 25 to 30 points a game. We said he was going to average what when he got there

Starting point is 02:13:08 because he was going to be by himself. What did we say? 25 to 30 points. We already talked about all that, though. You can all see how he's looking. Bro, Nick, we already done talked about all of this. It's weird. This is weird.

Starting point is 02:13:20 Let's stop. Bro, Nene just got dropped. You know what we haven't talked about? Mostly fans, so let's get to that. It is almost to a point, you already know, we've been going hard today, our first day back in the arena. We appreciate Boogie Cousins pulling up. Tell you what, it's been a very spirited day.

Starting point is 02:13:34 Glad to see all of you back in the flesh. Before we do more, hey, you know, I'm a fucking dude tough. So when the fat motherfucker got the job in Sacramento and he tried to get rid of my man before his Fucking ink was dry You know I'm fucking talking about fuck that They know everybody to check everybody watch this show no Absolutely

Starting point is 02:14:01 Soon as the motherfucker got the job. I'm like nah,, dawg. Right? And then the reports come out, they trying to get rid of him. I'm like, that motherfucker ink wasn't dried on his contract good before he tried to get my man out the building, dawg. Never even had the conversation. So, never had the conversation with this man about nothing, didn't get the chance to know this man. He just judged this man from afar. And that's why it ain't just, I'm not just saying fuck George Carl for me.

Starting point is 02:14:23 I'm saying fuck George Carl for the people that really feel like fuck George Carl. So it's a whole movement. It's a whole movement of fuck George Carl people out here. I'm just the president of it. Fuck everything Carl. Oh, the horse he rolled in on fucking Mendoza. You saw the shirt. Fuck Carl wins.

Starting point is 02:14:38 Right. Anything Carl. Fuck Carl Jr., man. I have not eaten at Carl's Jr. since working with him. So he thought, I have to let Kobe know that I ain't got no problem with you, boy. You know what I'm saying? I ain't going to hold you for the sins of your father, dog.

Starting point is 02:14:52 I ain't got no issue with you, man. Because he was like, Kobe was like, kind of hesitant, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but he was like, hesitant. You want to know something funny about that? When I was with the Lakers, he was on the staff. Yeah, yeah. He did the same shit to me.

Starting point is 02:15:04 Yeah, yeah. He came over and he's like, you think you would ever go sit You know what's funny about that? When I was with the Lakers, he was on the staff. Yeah, yeah. He did the same shit to me. Yeah. He came over and he's like, you think you would ever go sit down to dinner with my dad? Man, you don't get to fuck with my baby. Oh, he ain't never asked me. He asked me that. He didn't ask me that. He didn't ask me that.

Starting point is 02:15:15 Because I was like, boy. Man. No chance. Man. What if it was no boo? What if it was no boo? Malibu. With the work.

Starting point is 02:15:23 And he brought the work. He had work. He had work. Come on, man. I can make this up to you. I just hate when they pre- when they come to the team and they already pre-designed what they're going to do. I mean, shoot around.

Starting point is 02:15:39 That man told Melo he wanted to play like, he wanted Melo to play like deadlift strength, man. Listen, come on, man. Not Delos, but you was a nice player, but you get the job. You told it. George told Melo he wanted to play like... You ain't looked under the hood to see what kind of engine that was.

Starting point is 02:15:57 You ain't even been like, all right, so look, what we're going to do is we're going to take five shots away from you. Get this motherfucking man out of here, man. Who going to get him? You know the part that's crazy for me? It's like, you know, teams are, you know,

Starting point is 02:16:07 they'll go after a guy, recruit him in free agency, and obviously getting a job, they're going to say, you know, we want you to do this, this, and this. Like, this is what we view you as with this team. And you agree on that. You know what I'm saying? But when you agree on it and then you don't do it, you get bashed for it. You're not coachable. You're not the same guy.

Starting point is 02:16:24 I just never understood why isn't that same standard held for coaches? Because a coach is just there. Going from every place to place, label. A coach can go to an organization, and an organization can already have that franchise guy. You're like, this is our guy, we want to move forward with him. And as a coach, can you coach this guy and move forward with him? If the coach agrees on it, then you agree on it.

Starting point is 02:16:47 But a guy like George can come in and do all those things and go opposite of what he said he would do and nothing is done about it, no backlash, nothing said about his name, no type of tarnishment. He kind of rise up in the sunset, they let him go, whatever. Nah, I'm not going out. I just don't understand that standard. The meat, because as long as we doing this shit and this motherfucker here works, and this sound coming out.

Starting point is 02:17:12 But you couldn't say it then, though. Oh, who? Nah, you can't say it then. I said it to him. No, no, I'm saying, no, to him. But what I'm saying is, for the world and the fans to know, for the fans to know that he is world for the world in the photo. I tried to be no for the fans that know that He is bad for us. Yeah

Starting point is 02:17:28 It's hard to get that message out. It's easy for him to say I don't like fucking Martin. Yeah, absolutely But soon as I don't get along with the coach, he's like, oh, he doesn't want to get along with a Hall of Fame coach. Yeah, that shit is crazy, though. Fuck him. He get labeled like, really? Oh, man.

Starting point is 02:17:52 I didn't front know I did that. Yeah, but I just wanted to know. As soon as I heard the dude got the job, man, I already knew what the shit was going to be. You was about to squabble? Who, him? Yeah. I was going to beat the brakes off George.

Starting point is 02:18:02 Hey, George, get at your ass, man. Ooh. He had hands? Hey. Hell, George, get at your ass, man. Ooh. He had hands? Hey. Hell, George would've stuffed that in. Damn! Look, I was all in. He didn't have a chance.

Starting point is 02:18:10 Man, you can't do that to that man. No, no, no. Hey. So they know this. I told the world this. Had Sprewell never did what he did, and I knew the consequences? Right.

Starting point is 02:18:20 Yeah. Well. Right? Because my reputation already, like, Sprewell didn't have the reputation I had up to that point. Right. Right?

Starting point is 02:18:29 Your son was on the team though, Kenyon. You angry, man. I know. I was at Kenyon. I used to be. Kenyon, his son was on the team though, right? Who that? Kobe Carl.

Starting point is 02:18:37 Oh, they brought him in? On what team? That's why he brought him in. The Denver team. Did that? Talk us up. Talk us up. Talk us up. Talk us up. Talk us up. Talk us up. Talk us up. Talk us up. Hey, guess what they asked me? Hey, guess what?

Starting point is 02:18:47 And my exact words. You got to take that from my fucking house. If you bring him in and he step on it, I'm going to mistreat him. Yes. My exact words. They asked us, is it okay? Because George was sick. You're getting all the popcorn.

Starting point is 02:18:58 He had to get cancer. And they brought him in and I said, if you bring him in, I'm going to mistreat him. Absolutely. Well, at least you were. He's getting all the popcorn. I mean, you was honest. Honestly, I'm going to mistreat him. Absolutely. Well, at least you were. He getting all off the farm. I mean, you was honest. Honestly, he's the best father. Boy, mistreatment is a strong word.

Starting point is 02:19:09 Hey, I'm going to mistreat him. That's my exact word. Who talks like that? At least you tell me. Yeah. Who's not right there? And I told him, I couldn't listen. I couldn't touch him.

Starting point is 02:19:19 He was off limits. I'm going to mistreat him. Treatment is supposed to heal you. Treatment is supposed to heal you. Mistreatment is different. It's not a healing. That's opposite of healing. And then I listen.

Starting point is 02:19:28 So people understand. Man, I was going through so much shit off the floor then, bruh. Injuries, kill, what? Man, listen, there was so much shit going on in my life. Bruh. That's our brother. Man, dog. That man had no earthly idea of the damn business.

Starting point is 02:19:45 I told you. Only a brother's knowledge can say, I'm going to mistreat you. I'm going to mistreat you. I'm going to mistreat you so much. I'm going to mistreat you. That man had no idea how much danger he was in. I believe.

Starting point is 02:19:57 I believe. You know how we arguing back and forth? He chilling. You bitch a car, nigga. Get up. Right? That's your number one. I know. When King gets to the end, and back and forth, he chillin'. You bitch a car, nigga, get up. That's your number one eye? I know, when King gets to the end, he's like, shit.

Starting point is 02:20:10 It's only like three, but yeah, he definitely. Number one, number one. Because listen, I was sitting at home minding my business, dog. I wasn't thinking about that man, he put my name in his book. I thought that he write a book about that man. I would've never, I could've went

Starting point is 02:20:23 through the rest of my life and not mentioned him, thought about him ever again in fucking life. You put my name in your book. You took a shot at my mom. The shit I did. Said we was basically, we act the way we do because we had no fathers growing up. And I'm a single, my mother's a single mother. And I think she did a great fucking job.

Starting point is 02:20:43 Damn. I agree. You said that? Yeah. I actually give you Yeah, listen. I actually give you credit, brother. Listen. Ladies and gentlemen.

Starting point is 02:20:49 Hey, man, let's clap it over, my guy. Ladies and gentlemen, we're here in Daniel. Damping up. When was the last time you seen him? At the Hall of Fame thing, last year with Hugs thing. Oh, okay, okay. I was at the Hall of Fame when he got inducted. He gave him one of these.

Starting point is 02:20:57 What's up, George? What's this like? What's this close to him? Oh, you ain't, oh, what's this fucking close to him? You ain't give him the Zion? What he gave him? You should have gave him that little soda. Zion! You should have gave him that little soda. You should have gave him that little soda. You should have gave him that little soda. What's up, George? What's up? What's this close to him? Oh, you ain't?

Starting point is 02:21:05 What's this fucking close to him? You ain't give him the Zion? What he gave him? You should have gave him that little soda. Stop doing that shit! No. He don't exist. Listen, when I'm dead ass, listen.

Starting point is 02:21:14 This close to this motherfucker. You changed. And didn't look at him, didn't say, listen. You changed a lot. Was hugging on hugs, laughing and joking. Them motherfuckers standing back to back. Damn. I done had episodes over here where you almost hit me.

Starting point is 02:21:27 Man, that's tough. No, keep this up. So it goes so quick. The niggas sitting beside him, they won't care. You want to have civilized story. You don't want to be known with.. Shut your motherfucking ass up. Shut your ass up, nigga.

Starting point is 02:21:43 Bitch ass nigga. God damn, George, you get a goddamn pass? I feel for my life every night I come in this bitch's life. I wasn't willing to go to jail in Springfield. Do I got to sit next to Kenyon today? I'll be like, I'm going to be over there. I wasn't willing to go to jail in Springfield, so no, we're not going to go. Not a fucking chance. Man.

Starting point is 02:22:02 Hey, listen. So, because I didn't get in jail. I just talk shit about, dude. Listen, so. No, okay, let me get a gym. I just talked shit about dude. Listen, so. No, it's Springfield. You saw my talk. I don't think nowhere else. We're way off topic.

Starting point is 02:22:11 Now, this is better than what we have. Absolutely. So, we will go with this. So, I saw some shit the other day. Some dude posted something about athletes that had been locked up. And he posted mug shots. All black. All black athletes.

Starting point is 02:22:22 So, me, I'm like, damn, no white athletes ever been locked up, right? So on my flight to Utah the other day, I did a deep dive into what my statements was. And I had to retract them. There was a retraction issue. These motherfucking niggas out here,

Starting point is 02:22:40 boy, got this shit locked. On lock. No white guys. It's about three. But they spread out. The most recent was Alex Caruso. Marijuana possession at an airport. In Texas. They get defunct. Shout out Caruso. Listen dawg. They get like rape that. You talking about repeat offenders on this motherfucker, dog. Ain't nothing wrong with a little weed. No, I'm not saying that. I smoked. Smoked when I played.

Starting point is 02:23:14 Have I ever... You ever heard of Kenyon Martin being fucking arrested for marijuana? No. Public intoxication? No. Like I said, and I said in the statement, I'm no saint. I've dodged a few in my day, trust me. But, dude, got it on.

Starting point is 02:23:35 And this is a page specifically NBA. Suspensions. No, just no. No. Website of all mug shots and some of the actual police reports is all NBA players. God damn. And this list goes from decade from decade. Listen, I'm just scrolling, and I am fucking wildly entertained by some of the charges

Starting point is 02:23:57 that some of you motherfuckers had. Yes. Because you don't know like four times. You had a picture on that mug? Oh, you don't know like four times. Oh, you don't know. Oh, bitch, you don't know, too. I was acting, god damn it. Hey, bitch, you don't know, too. I was acting, goddamn it.

Starting point is 02:24:06 Hey, bitch, you don't know, too. I ain't got a mug shot. Yes, you do, bitch. You ain't got no goddamn mug shot. Who? Me. Yup. Well, they lied then.

Starting point is 02:24:13 I ain't never been to jail, knock on wood. Oh, I'm a, oh. I ain't never been to jail. So it's nothing Nick Young? It's nothing Nick Young? No, that's different. I said, I ain't never. What type of mug shot?

Starting point is 02:24:23 I'm just saying, the white ones, they just get accused of some shit that's just crazy. It's like, hey The white ones they just get accused Nation game is crazy, but so I don't know what bird man was on where he got caught He know he got he don't have he don't he not one owner you would think he would have. He got suspended for two years. He didn't get arrested. Arrested, arrested. Arrested. I ain't gonna lie, when you said it, I was the first guy I thought of. I was like, I'm burning. I thought that, too. I thought that, too. They done put you in that bitch and took your picture.

Starting point is 02:24:52 Oh, yeah, you talking about like out on the street. You talking about out on the street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Niggas get crazy out on the street. Yo, and it's repeat. Listen, when I say multiple. He said, I'm on there four times. Yo, yeah, you on there like four times, dog.

Starting point is 02:25:03 I'm like, oh, shit, Gil. Oh, shit, Gil. You photograph very well, though, Gil, just so you know. I'm not, nah. Yeah, no. And I'm on there four times. Yo, yeah, you on there like four times, dog. I'm like, oh, shit, Gil. Oh, shit, Gil. You photograph very well, though, Gil, just so you know. I'm not, no. Yeah, no. And I'm on there, listen, dog. I know, I know.

Starting point is 02:25:10 My entertainment with it. Why on there? Yeah, y'all impressed. It was, it was, it would thank y'all for that laugh. Because, dog, I was on that bitch just going like wild. And there's people that got arrested I had no idea over time that been, dog. Be good or be good at it. No, these dudes, man.

Starting point is 02:25:30 How many dudes try to spend their life? What the hell? I don't know. That's what I'm like. I don't believe this shit. That's me. You got a misdemeanor. You got a couple misdemeanors.

Starting point is 02:25:39 You got a car with baby walls. Before we go, let me see. Yeah, kind of. So, Sean, you got one thing. I'm trying to think. What kind? We're going to get some money Yeah, kind of. So, Shaw, you got one thing. I'm trying to think. What the fuck? We're going to get some money. Wait a second.

Starting point is 02:25:47 No, but you got arrested. Kind of. You ain't got arrested. Man, he never got arrested. Kind of. You didn't get arrested, but kind of. But a mug shot, I mean, you got arrested. First of all, you got put in handcuffs

Starting point is 02:25:57 and got put into the alley. They about to whoop your ass in. Oh, yeah, my name about to whoop my ass. Oh, yeah, I sure do. I got a ticket. They about to beat the fuck out of you. I got pulled over, though. Who's about to whoop your ass in. Oh yeah, I sure do. I got to beat the fuck up. I got pulled over though. Who's about to whoop your ass? They took me out because of like, it was a loud commotion. They said, we got to get you out the area because it's too much.

Starting point is 02:26:13 I read the police report. And they took me there and they were like, talk all that shit now. I was like, huh? You said talk all that shit now? Some of these motherfuckers, they got the body cam footage and all that shit on there, dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We made two laughs. Yo, this shit is wild.

Starting point is 02:26:32 I did take that picture that day. Before we give out this money, Sean, you have something you wanted to say before we go? Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. We're still doing the NBA ticket giveaway. Larry, you already know. Everybody that submitted, we still rolling. We're going to do the submission ticket giveaway. Larry, you already know. Everybody that submitted, we still rolling. We're going to do

Starting point is 02:26:48 the submission breakdowns starting on the 1st. What name is that? 2018 Golden State Warriors. That's why you have to go back. If y'all had them signed in New Orleans,

Starting point is 02:26:59 this shit wouldn't happen. It wouldn't have happened. See? Championship experience. That's not... I didn't get arrested for that. What is that? Shit. I didn experience Get arrested for that shit I'm pretty sure you sign back. I didn't get a rose

Starting point is 02:27:15 We got white boy, you know Keep it light. Keep it light. My's is kind of black, though. But hey, listen. Of the men, trust me. Yeah, this is like 99%, 98% on that bitch. Man, why you like that, man? No, black. Nigga.

Starting point is 02:27:35 Black. I don't know who this is. Rodion's, Krooks? Mm. Oh, but listen, listen. He sound European. Yeah, listen. There's a couple of euros on that.

Starting point is 02:27:42 You got to read. Just read what he got in trouble. There's a couple of euros on that. Read what he got in trouble. There's a couple of euros on there. Read what he got in trouble. There's a couple of euros on there. And then when you start getting to the 80s, right? Cocaine possession, cocaine possession. The 80s, it was cocaine possession.

Starting point is 02:27:52 It is a hell of a drug. Impersonating. Impersonation. Hey, hey. Who you impersonating? Now, if you go. What am I saying? You said something, people thought I was lying.

Starting point is 02:28:03 You go back to the 70s and the 80s and look what they got arrested for. You won't see none of those charges in the NBA drug policy, right? Yes. So these motherfuckers getting caught with all these drugs all through the season, but none of them tested positive. That's crazy. That's it. They only got tested once.

Starting point is 02:28:23 Before we go, before we go, we got to give some love to all the fans here at Gills Arena. We're on a mission to get to one million, I mean one gillion subscribers. Gills Arena channel is over 924,000 subscribers strong. We're trying to get to a million. To show our thanks for all of you, every time we get 1,000 subscribers, we're giving away $1,000 to an underdog user. You got to have an underdog account. If you don't have one, download the app. Use promo code GIL. Get $1,000 in bonus cash plus a special pick-em.

Starting point is 02:28:48 Also need to be following the GIL's Arena YouTube channel. So like I said, we passed 924,000 subs. So we are announcing 12 winners on the show today. That's why we're giving away 12 racks today. We've already given away 8,000 of those 12 racks. We got four more winners to announce before we go. So we got 12,000 we're giving away. We've already given away 8,000.

Starting point is 02:29:05 We got four more to go. So here are the four. Franco GA27, you got $1,000 coming from underdog. Jaw 18, you got $1,000 coming from underdog. Prof LB, you got $1,000 coming from underdog. Prof, P-R-O-P-H-L-B. Okay. Just make, you know, I don't make these names. P-R-O-P-H-L-B. Okay. Just make, you know, I don't make these names.

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Starting point is 02:29:35 So, how are you? It's Rolanda. At least I was clean cut. Okay, Rolanda, we appreciate you watching the show. You won $1,000 bonus cash. I want to thank Boogie for pulling up to the arena your first time. Hope to have you back very soon. We appreciate you taking time out of your schedule to come join us.

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