Gil's Arena - Luka & The Lakers Are Back ON TOP Of The NBA Playoffs!
Episode Date: April 23, 2025Luka Doncic Is Officially A Los Angeles Laker LEGEND After Game 2 as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to Luka Doncic, LeBron James and the Lakers' big win to even the NBA Playoff Series aga...inst the Minnesota Timberwolves. They break down Luka's DOMINANT Game for the Purple & Gold and give their main takeaways from the series tying game before analyzing the Lakers' lack of offense so far in this series, sparking a debate on if LeBron need to contribute more for the Lakers to have a long run through the NBA Playoffs. Next, they recap the Indiana Pacers' Game 2 win over the Milwaukee Bucks where Giannis Antetokounmpo continued to dominate with no help as Damian Lillard looked rusty in his return to action, allowing Tyrese Haliburton and the Pacers to take a commanding lead in the series. They debate what Doc Rivers can do to turn this series around and react to the Athletic's NBA Player Poll that voted Haliburton as the NBA's most overrated player & crowned Shai Gilgeous Alexander as the player's MVP. Then, the Gil's Arena Crew reacts to concerning news for the reigning NBA Champion Boston Celtics as Jayson Tatum has been ruled doubtful for the tonight's Game 2 against the Orlando Magic, striking fear into Celtics fans and launching a Gil's Arena debate over if the team needs Tatum to advance to the next round. Finally, they break down another blowout win for the OKC Thunder as Shai Gilgeous Alexander and the Thunder are proving to be no match for Ja Morant & The Memphis Grizzlies and discuss the real reason behind the firing of Mike Budenholzer as rumors are spreading that young superstar Bol Bol was treated unfairly during the Phoenix Suns playoff push. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Rashad McCants, Brandon Jennings & Nick Young Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena Get MANSCAPED’s Full Power Shave Portfolio for 20% OFF + Free International Shipping with code “GIL” at https://www.manscaped.com/gilsarena #manscapedpartner This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at https://betterhelp.com/ARENA and get on your way to being your best self USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 – 2 Min Countdown 0:01:54 – Show Start 0:09:33 – The Bucks Have NO CHANCE Of A Bounce Back 0:34:13 – Haliburton's HOSTILE Beef With Damian Lillard 0:40:42 – Haliburton Is The NBA's Most Overrated Player 1:03:44 – LeBron, Luka and The Lakers Bounce Back in Game 2 1:27:01 – Shannon Sharpe In 5 1:35:51 – LeBron James Has Passed The Torch To Luka 1:46:04 – Jayson Tatum OUT For Game 2 1:53:33 – Payton Pritchard Wins 6MOTY 1:55:33 – The Grizzlies Have No Chance To Beat OKC 2:04:56 – Gil & Rashad BATTLE Over The NBA Ratings 2:26:58 – MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Glorious day here in the arena.
All is right in the world.
How everybody feeling?
Great.
And you not allowed, Mr. Bill.
Feel good today, man.
Feel good?
The energy's coming.
You not allowed.
Woke up smiling.
I mean, well, technically, I'm not allowed either.
I don't have a pension, so.
It was a.
I'm not allowed either.
I don't have a pension with the NBA either.
I'm right at it.
I'm right at it, too.
Oh, you got a pension, don't you?
You get a pension after four years.
Fully vested?
Yes. Fully, 100%?
Not fully. No, no. It gotta be 10 years for fully.
It do. That's why the
smoke, the black
the nigga was
What's his name?
What?
The dude that was trying to get himself for his kids.
00000.
Tony Snell?
Tony Snell.
The nigga that looked like a dead person.
Who is Tony Snell?
He said 00000.
Yeah, you don't even know him by that.
After the third zero, I was like, okay, wait.
I'll see where we go with that.
Tony Snell's from LA.
Shout out to Tony Snell.
He is?
Riverside?
Him and Juan went to high school together?
Bro?
Aw, man.
He cool.
I fuck with Snell, man. Yeah, bring. We can see. Take it back, Twike.
Take it back.
Yeah.
He still look like Sinner, though.
Sinner?
I can see what kind of day it's going to be.
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As always, we got the legend Gilbert Arenas here
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Gil, I like the outfit.
For all the viewers who don't know
what you got on right now
what jersey is that
I just see one seven
I just see one seven
I don't see the other
young Luca
the young Luca
Slovenian Jesus
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And on this side of the couch.
10 years plus, got the real pinch.
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This side of the couch.
Got the man known as Cemetery Larry Rashad McKintz
back with us.
Also rocking a Luka Doncic jersey.
Twins.
Twins.
Twins.
Twinsies.
We're brothers.
We're happy and we're singing and we're colored.
High five.
High five.
All right, cut.
All right.
All right, cut it, cut it, cut it.
Mine actually looks better. Oh. Oh. it, cut it, cut it. Mine actually looks better.
Oh.
Oh, and I wear it better.
Oh.
Okay.
But that was just to say it out loud.
I was thinking that.
I didn't mean to say it.
This was not planned.
I did not mean to say that out loud.
The home and the away jersey, both Luka, Dante, Slovenia, Jesus.
Yeah, for sure y'all had this planned.
Hmm?
Y'all talking for?
I'm in your head.
I'm actually looking for you.
You're right.
Slovenia Jesus. I was the first original
though. That's why I got the white one.
The Caucasian
colored. Yeah.
I'm a real original European.
And last but not least,
represent Tough Crowd, Tough Crowd University,
Mr. B. Brandon Jennings.
10 U not allowed as the shirt says, with the little U, so you know.
It's authentic.
You should put his face on it.
That's real U.
You should put his face on it.
No, I think the message is clear.
Message received.
A ranch or something like that.
You should put a car on it.
It's supposed to be an explanation point. Put a period right there.
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The Lakers held the Wolves to a season-low in points to even the series.
How concerned should the Purple and Gold be with their offensive struggles
through the first two games of the playoffs?
We do have Luka.
Bron, got to pick up the pace a little bit, but we still believe.
Dame's return to the Bucs wasn't enough to stop the Pacers
from taking a 2-0 lead in their series.
What can the Bucs do to avoid their third straight first round exit? And if they do
suffer that third straight first round exit,
what does the future hold
for Giannis? We are going to discuss.
And Jason Tatum, doubtful
for the Celtics' game two meeting with the Magic
with a wrist injury to
his shooting hand. Damn, that's a
great photo.
Not great, but just really
encapsulating the situation.
That man's wrist might be jankier than we expected.
How will Tatum's injury impact Boston in this series and the rest of the playoffs?
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Bencaro higher 26.5 points Celtics magic game two they They had the 36th piece in game one. Jalen Brown, higher, 32.5 points, rebounds, and assists.
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I like you. I mean, I mean, nah. I was 25. He can get it. Yeah, he'll have like three
threes in the first with that second game., I feel like they're going to come out with super energy today.
That's fine.
But this ain't, you know, this ain't nothing Steph ain't seen.
I think with Jalen Brown, too, if Tatum's out, I think he'll be more.
Oh, that's going to be good.
Yeah, yeah.
I was going to go higher with Derek White, too.
Apollo, 27?
You got to get to him?
Who?
Apollo?
Yeah. Yeah, because he's all, I mean, got to get 27. Who? Paulo. Yeah.
Yeah, because he's all,
I mean, he got the ball
in his hand all the time.
Paulo, big game one.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No Tatum, too.
No Tatum, so.
Yeah.
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So we're going to start in the Eastern Conference.
You ain't say nothing.
You want something to say?
You ain't going to say nothing.
So Patriots made light work of Milwaukee in their game one win Saturday.
Bucks had reason for optimism in game two with Dame Lillard making his return
after missing more than a month with a blood clot in his calf.
But the Patriots held off a late game run to hold on to home court advantage.
Let's take a look at the highlights if we can, please, Paolo.
Dame looked a little rusty in this one, finishing with 14 points on fourth, 13 shooting, and
37 minutes of action.
He did tie Giannis with a team high, seven assists in the game.
Speaking of the Greek freak, Giannis put together another big game, carrying the deer with 34
points, 18 rebounds, and 7 assists while shooting
70% from the field.
Bobby Portis, big off the bench, 28 points and 12 rebounds in 32 minutes of action.
So Pacers had a balanced offensive attack with six players scoring in double figures.
Tyrese Halliburton tried to beat the most overrated player in the league, Allegations,
finishing with 21 points, 12 assists assists and five rebounds while Pascal
Siakam led the Pacers in scoring again coming through with 24 points along with
11 rebounds and three steals so Pacers were up 15 midway through the fourth
quarter when the Bucs came battling back going on a 13-0 run to make things
interesting capped off by a Dame deep ball to get the Bucs within two but
Siakam and Andrew Nevhart hit back-to-back threes to give the Pacers some breathing room.
Interesting moment in the game right here. So we know Dame and Hallie
exchanged some words in game one when Dame was in street clothes waiting to
make his return. They got to it in game two as well with a little over a minute to
play. Started jawing at each other during the dead ball. Had to be separated by a ref.
Yeah.
What we like to see is his playoff basketball, ladies and gentlemen.
Then Bobby Portis and Siakam got into it with both players getting texts during the altercation.
Halle doing a little bit more trolling.
Spotted Mocking Lillard with his damn time celebration. Bobby for his eyes.
He's a man to be trifled with.
That juice.
We see Dame or we see Halle doing the Dame time celebration.
Andrew Nebhard knocked down another three shortly after to help seal the win for the Pacers.
So the Pacers have never lost a playoff series after winning the first two games.
They are 11-0 all time.
It seems like we don't give the Pacers enough love.
So they're up 2-0 in this series, Mr. B.
We're going to come to you in a second
because I know your Bucks are struggling right now.
Rashad, what do you think about this Pacers squad
so far in the series and what are they showing
the Eastern Conference
right now?
They've got a
solid core.
Shit, TJ McConnell ain't even started playing
good yet.
Man, I mean, they're a competitive group.
I like the way that they compete.
You would look at them and you would think that they're an easy pushover,
but I think they've shown year in, year out to compete for a playoff spot.
They didn't have to do play-in last year.
No, I think they were
the sixth seed
if I'm not mistaken.
So, yeah, to avoid
play-in in the East
with all that talent
over there,
they play together.
I like everything
they bring.
I think it's just more
about the bucks
don't bring.
I think
Kuzma needs to
hit the bench.
Bobby Portis needs
to step up to a
starting role
gets more
convenient shots throughout the first
period and the third period
Gary Trent Jr. gotta play better defense
and Dame
gotta step up I mean like I said
this is legacy time for Dame
and you can't afford to talk shit and show up and not
you know what I'm saying you You got to pop your shit.
And I think Halliburton is ready for that fucking challenge,
and I like that about him.
We kind of counted him out all the way up to this point,
and I think he's showing that he deserves a little bit of this credit
that he's gotten thus far.
Gil, you ready to put some respect on the Pacers' name yet?
Eastern Conference Finals last year, four seed this far. Gil, you ready to put some respect on the Pacers' name yet? Eastern Conference
Finals last year, four seed
this year.
Handled their business at home up 2-0,
going back to Milwaukee for Game 3.
Okay.
What's that got to do with me?
What's that got to do with me?
Just curious.
Still not rocking with the Pacers?
I don't care
I'm a Laker fan
that is fine
I don't care
but there's other
basketball going on
you know what I'm saying
I don't care what the
the Pacers do
like it's not my team
for me to care
if they're gonna be
good or legit
that's
not my issue
if they're good
they're good
we gotta talk about them
yeah but ask me a question
about the game don't ask me I'm gonna put respect on. Yeah, but ask me a question about the game.
Don't ask me if I'm going to put respect on their name.
I don't give a fuck about the Pacers.
In theory, ask me a question about the game.
No, just ask me about the game.
Don't ask me if I'm going to put respect on their game.
Just ask me a question about was it a good game for them.
We all got Lucas here, so.
Ask me the same question about the game itself.
What have you seen from the Pacers in these first two games?
Do they deserve more respect?
See, there you go.
Do they deserve more respect?
Like, that's what he's saying.
Like, you know.
Can you just ask the first part again?
You got to let me host.
Ask the first part.
Let me do my hosting.
Because you're acting like I'm anti.
No, I'm not even saying for you in general.
No, that's what I'm saying.
As we talked about the Eastern Conference landscape,
a lot of people do not care about the pitch.
That's a lot of people.
Just ask me the question as the beginning.
Let's try it again.
What have you seen from the Pacers in these first two games
of their series against the Milwaukee Bills?
They've been playing great basketball,
playing very great team ball.
They're moving the ball around.
They know what the objective is
in this series
and
I don't think the way Doc
puts his line themselves
I don't think he can actually match
what the Pacers are doing
Pacers have the best five
out there
Doc usually has three players
and then two players that are just like out there you know doc usually has three players and then two players that are just like
out there and then he has the other two players that should be starters sitting on the bench
and then they come in so you got a 16 minute guy and then this 20 minute guy that's starting that
kind of you start off to the slow start and then you put these guys in, fucks up the rhythm. Put your best five out there to match the same energy
and then Prince and Lopez or Kuzma,
depending on who you think is the weakest link,
then you bring them in a game playing three, four minutes here and there.
Still give them the 16, but it's not at the beginning of the game
where you need to really get out to a good start.
And that's always been Doc's problem,
where he usually has three good players
And then he has two bad players
That don't belong as starters
To try to have this
I got off the bench product
Yeah
It doesn't work like that
Right
You know so Indiana's just
You know
Didn't Doc come off the bench or no?
Who?
Did Doc Rivers come off the bench?
In Boston?
He did?
Atlanta
I don't know Atlanta
Atlanta
Oh my bad I'm thinking of somebody else You don't know basketball Atlanta My bad, I'm thinking of somebody else.
You don't know basketball.
Atlanta Clippers.
No, I'm thinking of the light skinned dude from the Celtics with-
You talking about Dennis Scott?
With Larry Bird.
Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
That's what I thought.
Yeah, Dennis.
Not Scott.
Dennis Johnson.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
You said Dennis Johnson.
I was like, yeah, Dennis Johnson. Yeah, yeah. You get your light skinned, it's confused. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. You said Dennis Johnson. I'm like, yeah, Dennis Johnson.
You get your light skin just confused.
Yeah, my bad.
I'm keeping the light skin confused.
My bad.
So, Sean, I heard you say Bobby Portis probably means to just go ahead
and go on the starting line.
Brandon, you've said that before as well.
Doctors need to rock out.
Put Lopez on the bench.
Lopez has got to go.
We're crazy, man.
I think Kenan was saying that.
But, I mean, it's just our energy first game wasn't good.
I mean, our energy second game wasn't good.
Yeah, we came back towards the end.
We made a run.
But just throughout the whole game, it don't even look like we belong.
Right.
Like in this series.
And I don't know if it's a bad matchup for us.
I don't know if our lineups need to be switched up.
But Kevin Porter Jr. played 16 minutes yesterday.
He had like nine and four.
Did it look like Dame was upset?
I think, see, Dame played mad instead of just playing.
Did it look like he was playing mad?
Well, I mean, he got in a little.
Near the end.
Near the end.
He had 11 in the fourth or 14 in the fourth.
Dame?
Yeah, I think it was 11.
I mean, he gave us 36 minutes and only gave us 13 shots. That's not
going to help. That's not going to help us.
You got to go demon time, man.
Like, if
Bobby's ready, then I'm starting
Bobby.
We just gave up Chris Middleton
for Kuzma and all these other guys, and it's looking
like we should have kept Chris Middleton.
Because when we go through times like this
in the playoffs,
especially against a team like Indiana,
we ain't got nobody that's just dominant that's going to take over the game.
And that's what Chris Middleton did on one leg. Right.
So Dame only had three points in that fourth quarter.
He was one of four.
So that three to cut the lead to two.
So the third quarter he had 11.
Yeah.
And then even like, what's his name last year?
Andrew Jackson Jr.
He was playing decent well forced against them last year.
And now he's not playing.
We need some type of energy.
That three-pointer right there was the only three points Dame had in the fourth?
Yeah.
So he had five in the second quarter.
I feel like Indiana just got them.
They're not scoring the third quarter.
It's the matchup.
Yeah.
It's the first quarter.
We got to take the matchup.
So somebody had told me that he had 11.
I thought they told me he had 11.
11 in the first half. 11 in the first half.
11 in the first half.
Okay.
Like Prince could come on for it at this point.
Prince.
Torian Prince.
Yeah, he should be off the bench.
Kuzma, to me, is not a starter on a team like this.
I think he's better off the bench.
He's better off the bench.
It's Lopez.
It's Lopez.
It's your center who has one rebound.
He sits on the 3.9.
So you have to play Giannis at the center.
At center and then. Portis at the center. Or Matt. He sits on the 3.9. So you have to play Giannis at the center. At center and then.
Or Porter's at the center.
Or Porter's.
Or Porter's.
Because Porter's rebounds and he shoots threes.
Yeah.
So what's the point of.
You got to switch it up.
And the Pacers really don't have a threat at the big position.
That's what I'm talking about.
Like Porter's actually posts up, plays iso ball, and he shoots the threes, and he rebounds.
Yeah.
Like you got Lopez out there who don't post up, right?
He shoots threes, he don't rebound.
So what's the point of you having to bring him off the bench,
play him three, five minutes, and then take his ass out?
I'll start the white boy, too.
Derry Bird?
Yeah.
Derry Bird.
This is a threat.
Yeah.
Something.
So Bucs left much to be desired our first two games of this series.
But after falling down 0-2, both Doc Rivers and Giannis were still optimistic about the Bucs' chances in this series.
We'll just see.
You know, maybe I'm tired.
Maybe I have 48 hours.
I'm not going to tell you what I'm doing right now because I don't know.
But we'll figure it out.
I'm very confident about this series.
Very.
My mindset right now is game three.
I know the fucking deal, man.
I just know the deal.
I know what I got to do.
What I got to do.
But Mr. B, how much confidence do you have in the Bucs?
I know what I got to do.
I know what I got to do.
I know what I got to do. I know what I got to do. I know what I got the deal. I know what I got to do.
What I got to do.
Mr. B, how much confidence should Doc Rivers have in the Bucs
bouncing back in this year?
Did you see that?
Did you see what that was?
I was depending on y'all to help me, but...
Nah, I know what I got to do now.
I know what I got to do now.
I mean, we definitely going to have to make some adjustments.
And I think our energy, game three, and I think we need to really kick their ass game three.
Like, we can't.
Yeah, like if we win by six or eight at the last minute, it's still going to be a little worried.
We need to, like, send a message just like the way they sent the message to us.
It's over.
No, I don't think so. Tweet? Did you start off with a tweet? It's a message to us. It's over. No, I don't think so.
Tweet?
Did you start a tweet?
It's over.
Clean sweep?
It's over.
Clean sweep.
No, they're not sleeping.
Milwaukee is dead.
Again?
No, they're not sleeping.
Milwaukee is dead.
I love Giannis.
Giannis is a great.
Milwaukee is dead.
Giannis just moved out.
He moved out.
There's no way.
No, it ain't.
We got game three.
There's no way. All Milwaukee just blew it up. That game three. There's no way all Milwaukee just blew it up.
That ain't a lot.
I know.
That's why I'm saying you just got to blow it up.
So, Gil, you started your 2025 with a clean slate.
I better watch it.
Glenn, Doc Rivers.
I'll tell your cousin.
Blow the ass up to him.
Your family's still waiting to see it more.
All right.
But how much confidence should Doc Berger have in the Bucks
bouncer back in this series? He said he's very confident.
I'm not worried about him having
confidence in them.
Hopefully they have confidence in him.
You know,
it's the other way around here for me.
I mean, I'm pretty sure Giannis is going to go out there
and have 50-12 and something.
It's lineups, man.
It's always been Doc's lineups.
It's off-balance lineups that I call a trickery,
where you have a mediocre starting five,
and then you have the most powerful bench because your bench numbers look great.
So you can say, oh, I got the number one bench in the NBA.
All right, where's your starting five at?
Your starting five is ranked 24th.
Yeah, your bench is one.
That's what's up.
But that's not how the game is played.
So what ends up happening, if you start off slow,
then you got to hurry up and sub them out,
then put the bench players in.
Kind of fucks up everything else anyway.
So put your starters in.
Put Bobby Portis in take
out Lopez I mean he's had a great run for you he's not it anymore put put what's the name in now you
guys are more agile and you can go up and down you can switch one through five and then when you have
time to put Lopez in then you put him in but other than that Bobby Portis is the starter When did we just start to change?
The way we did those type of rotations because it used to be your best five
The guys off the bench sub in and get those those couple guys the rest
Go back in and play so sometimes it wasn't always the best five feel like
You need the guys that that could match well together.
If you had, like, somebody that's – if you had two gills out there at the same time,
I feel like that could be a –
We're talking about the championship team, though, right?
You look at the championship-built teams, they put their best five out there.
Right?
Except for San Antonio.
Yeah, they got confused with teams like that.
San Antonio.
And they thought they can do what they was doing,
but they brought Ginobili in early.
Because they're like, yo, we know they're not going to match this.
There was only one person that did that.
With one player.
With one player.
Not used to having like a Lou, so it used to happen that Lou will come up.
He created it.
It's like he didn't create this system, but he's he's he's never waited it
But I don't even know if he's been successful and he hasn't that's that's the whole point
It's like you you've adopted this system of a jamal Crawford, but how was this?
Uh, I was yeah, Jamal Crawford the other guys five out there money. Yes before the bit before the big three
Yeah, Jamal. Oh during the big time during the big three. Oh, Jamal Clark. Oh, during the big three. During the big three, yeah. They had the best play.
Okay.
But think about his team before that.
He had a bunch of young guys that he could never figure out,
no lineups because they didn't have the pedigree.
Al Jefferson, Sebastian, Gerald Green, Brian Gomes, all of them.
Ricky Davis, he didn't know what to do with none of them.
Bucs had 13th best bench scoring during the regular season, 36.2 points per game.
We asked the chat, will the Bucs bounce back in this series?
57% of the chat says no.
So let's talk about the Giannis part of it.
Giannis knows what he's got to do.
The year they won the championship, yeah, he has his best five out there.
But that's the best five.
Yeah, you talking about the Boston year?
Yeah, the Boston year they won.
So he didn't put in, like, a Tony Allen to start over a Ray Allen.
Or a Posey.
Or a Posey or a Sam Cassell.
But that's what he does now.
That's what Doc was doing.
That's what he's doing.
No.
Who's the best five right now?
Now that Porter's back, of course, he's to be out there. He's for the B doing. No. Who's the best five right now? Now that Porter's back, of course he's to be out there.
He's for the Bucs?
Our best five for the Bucs?
Yeah.
Who do you think is the best five now?
Who are you rolling out to start?
I'm rolling Dame, Giannis, Bobby, Kuzma, and that that too.
White boy.
Yeah, Diary Bird.
The white boy.
The shooter.
The shooter.
Because I want to bring Kevin Porter Jr. off the bench so he can.
Yeah, he got that fire.
So he can. I don't even know if I bring him off the bench at this point.
Starting?
I don't know.
You start him at the two?
Start him at the two.
Let him go hard.
Is that a prince?
What do I have Prince for?
What I'm saying is, what do I have Prince for?
The best line that would be that.
Prince would be the defender.
Yeah, yeah, let him defend.
At least he's a threat for the three points.
But Dame is the threat.
Yeah, but both of them.
They're both threats.
Who's the slasher?
You got Portis posting.
Kuzma could be a slasher.
Kuzma is the move around nigga.
He's the like, you can go back doors sometimes.
Now think about it as a starting five.
You have Dame. You have, you can go back doors sometimes. Now, think about it as a starting five. You have Dame.
You have, you got Dame.
You got Kevin Porter Jr. at the one, two.
Kuzma at the three.
Bobby Porter's at the four.
Giannis at the five.
One through five.
And then now you're starting five offensively.
Defensively, they can't keen on anybody.
Right.
Because when young fella get the ball
what do you do? You gotta really play him
once.
He knows how to pass. He knows how to play. His pick and roll
game is no different than Dane's.
Then you got Kuzma cutting and slashing
and Bobby Porter sitting at the three.
You got five three point shooters or you got
four three point shooters.
You don't have no dead weight.
They're just outrunning you at this point.
You're going to pick and roll with Lopez, run him around.
You can't switch it.
You can't do none of that.
And what is Lopez doing?
He's fucking popping.
Popping.
And what would we have Giannis do?
Roll.
Roll, man.
And then what does that leave us on the outside?
It's four out one in.
With Giannis in there.
It's turning and done.
That's a scarier five defensively.
100%.
I like it.
I mean, we'll play faster.
Play faster.
You're playing against a group that wants to run.
Yes.
Right.
This is just not the series for Lopez.
Yes.
Right?
This is just not his series. Right. Yes, right. This is not this. This is just not his series. Yeah, right. So every series is not your series. Right. Steve Kerr, when he went to the championship. Okay, Iguodala, you're gonna have to come off the back. Like, there's series where you have to adjust your lineup to match theirs. Sometimes. And not even looking at Doc in particular, but how often are coaches to to figure that out and realize that? Smart ones do.
I mean, we could just sit there. And generally
they do that before they go down 0-2.
There are coaches who overdo it. I think
Steve overdoes it. He tries to do it
too much when he can do it.
Like the instance he just mentioned
with Iguodala, perfect instance.
Just like the same instance with Dwight
Howard when they won the chip.
Like, Dwight, this ain't your series, but we're going to need you against Joker.
Yeah.
And you look now.
How's it hard to tell Brooke Lopez?
Like, look, man, we need you to roll to the fucking basket.
Stop shooting these threes, bro.
He not going to get it, so you have to change the lineup.
And then if you stuck to the lineup because we've done this all season,
we've done this all.
Like he said, it's situational now. It's playoff
basketball. Who's the defender on that lineup,
though? All of them.
He's going to have to outscore them. Who's the defender
on Indiana? She is. They got some
defenders. Who? Hart, fucking
Smith.
Who? Off the bench.
That's off the bench. No, they're off the bench.
Neesmith. Oh, you said Neesmith.
I thought you said Smith.
Neesmith. Neesmith ain Oh, you said Neesmith. I thought you said Smith. Neesmith, man.
Who?
Neesmith ain't, I mean, he athletic.
He ain't no defender like that.
Miles Turner on.
Obviously, Miles Turner couldn't stop goddamn Bobby Porter, so obviously.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, and then, see, he going to have to guard Giannis, so we know what that is.
Yeah, so now.
That's a 30-and-18.
That's guard Giannis.
That defense is irrelevant at that point.
And then it's just Dane got to show up, and then you let Kevin Porter put some pressure That's 30 and 18. That defense is irrelevant at that point.
And then it's just Dane got to show up, and then you let Kevin Porter put some pressure on him.
And then Kuzma, hey, what are you going to do?
We got to figure out what the fuck you're going to do out here, bro.
Just shoot when you open. No more shooting.
We need you to be a goon.
We need you to turn into Matt Barnes.
We need you to go out here and make shit.
I just need to get some more rebounds.
Make shit.
Because what happens is.
Rebounds to get them going.
Here's what happens.
Who guards Porter?
I mean, who's guarding Prince?
Siakam.
Siakam.
Now you got the best defender guarding the worst offensive player,
which means what?
He gets to headhunt.
He gets to roam.
He gets to roam.
Now you have the best defender roaming.
Not wasting no energy.
Just netting, stopping everything.
Those are the players that you don't want doing that.
Yep.
I don't want the best player not being like
challenged and he gets
to just roam and clean
up stuff and do this
and open up move.
Like you don't want him
playing the safety role.
You want him to be in
every action burning his
energy so he can't be
used on offense either.
So the fact that he
four shots he had to
guard four jump shots.
Ooh.
How much?
He ain't do it.
He just roaming around.
But that's what Draymond do.
He the roamer.
But think about how smart you got to be to be the roamer, to recognize.
I love that.
Whoever I need to guard, I'm going to switch out on them.
Somebody happening in 16 coming off the bench.
But like he said, though, with that start guard, now he can't be none of the starters.
Now you got a guard.
You got a guard.
We heard Giannis...
Oh, Ben? Oh, yeah, no, Ben's good.
Ben Mather. We heard Giannis in his post
came, so he knows what the F he's
got to do. He's been doing it the first
two games of the series. He's averaging 35, 15,
four assists, shooting 65% from the field.
But this is a bigger
issue with this
Bucs squad, though. Bucs got knocked out in the
first round, two straight seasons.
And when you look at the long-term
impact on this franchise,
don't have a first-round pick in 25,
2027, or 2029.
26, 28, and 30, they're subject
to pick swaps. Don't have much cap flexibility.
Giannis previously said
he's committed to the Bucs
as long as they're committed to winning.
Now, according to reports, there's been nothing coming from his camp
that would indicate that he would want to be on the move.
But based on prior comments he's made,
how much will this postseason impact Giannis' future with the Bucs?
Listen, we lose first and second round, Milwaukee should be worried.
They should be worried right now.
You hear what he said?
Did you hear what he said?
It's over, man.
I know what I got to do.
That mean that.
I got to get the fuck out of here?
No, that mean that he been holding back.
Nah.
He been holding.
It mean he got more to give.
35.
He saying.
35, 15.
I can do more.
He saying, I know what I got to do.
I got to go to LA.
I know what I got to do. I got to go to L.A.
I know what I got to do.
I got to get the fuck out of here.
I'm going to leave it on the floor.
Listen, we get smacked in the first round.
Y'all go and get smacked.
I don't know.
We still got to talk about that.
It's over.
It depends on how we play game three.
It's over.
L.I.G. Game three is going to let me know for sure.
Is this the next team that's got to move around?
This is the next team, huh?
Phoenix gotta move around.
Sack gotta move around.
Warriors gotta move around.
That's a real light skin.
That's a real light skin.
He's a real light skin.
Y'all getting punked by a real light skin person.
He's a real definition of light-skinned.
And he's punking the shit out of y'all.
The textbook definition?
Like, he got the gold, like, you know, like the gold tee, the Xbox curl.
Just talking shit, dancing all like this at the parties.
You got to tell the truth, Nick.
He's really the light-skinned dude that you want a white girl?
If your white daughter came home. You want a white girl? If your white daughter came home
You want a white girl, you want you a white girl?
If your white daughter came home with this light-skinned man, he be like, oh that's a good black man.
That's a good black man.
That's a good black man you picked.
You safe.
Yeah boy, he got a good 401k. He got good 401k.
He got you a good 401K. He got a good 401K.
He got you a good one of them.
He got his picture.
If he don't go black, that's the black you go.
That's the black you go.
That's the shade you go.
He got his picture.
So we asked the chat, should Milwaukee be worried about Giannis' future?
91% of the chat says yes, Milwaukee should be very worried.
The Deer should fear their franchise player
trying to make his next move
the best move.
So y'all talked about
Tyrese Halliburton.
Halliburton, Dame beef.
That's interesting
considering Hallie has previously said
that Dame is one of his favorite players.
Part of the reason
he wears number zero.
So do you respect Halliburton
for going at Dame in this series
and standing on business?
They got into it, obviously,
game one.
Dame in street clothes
got into it in game two.
Hallie trolling Dame with the
Dame time celebration.
It's playoffs. I mean,
it's, you know?
You know what time it is?
Like, this is when the best of the best come out
and play, and we figure out who the best.
Hallie knows everybody think his game nasty.
He ain't dumb.
He don't like my game.
I know it.
But guess what?
I'm going to beat your ass.
I like that feeling.
When a nigga don't like your game, don't like how you dress, don't like how you walk, talk,
all that shit, you still got to see me.
That's how LeBron feel.
I feel it.
Hey.
LeBron.
Mm-hmm.
We're going to talk about it when I be hating.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to embrace that shit.
Embrace that shit, nigga.
He didn't do the dang time.
He did all fingers.
All of it.
Embrace it all.
They didn't do this.
Take your day.
He slapped her.
He slapped her.
He's trying to break the wall.
I said, fuck ass watch.
Don't even say watch.
Somebody give a fuck about this.
He said,
nah, don't do that.
Come on, man.
Gil, Gil, a fellow number zero, ages zero,
do you respect Genuine?
There's Genuine out there, bro.
But you can't.
You're getting punked by Genuine.
That's crazy.
No, no, no.
Elgin Baylor-Lumpkin. It's too long, man. It's too long. I was in theed by Genuine, that's crazy. Elgin Baylor-Lumpkin.
It's too long, man.
I was in the club when Genuine punked somebody.
Yeah, exactly.
Huh?
Yeah.
You better stop acting.
Quickest three-piece I've ever seen in my life, dog.
No, ain't.
Even though I got my own.
He was doing the ab roll.
Let's just say, let's just say, don't let the curl fool you.
The little, the little. Don't let the curl fool you. The little, the little.
Don't let the curl fool you.
Even though I'm on TV.
No way.
What?
You're going to say, who?
There was somebody on the TV?
No way.
There was nobody on the TV.
It was an NBA player.
The chat has already investigated.
The chat has done their detective work.
It was an NBA player.
But we're not going to say it.
Please, I got to know.
No, no, hell no.
I got to know.
Somebody got three-piece by a genuine.
And nobody talking about it.
They said it was similar to the way you got three-piece.
I ain't never got three-piece in my life.
Three guns, that's what I mean.
Stop the cab.
Stop the cab. The battle out the ring. I got headbutted out the ring.
That thing was crazy.
That thing was elbowing me and shit.
I didn't want that.
You signed up for the shit?
What was all that?
It looked like the Underground Railroad or some shit.
I got tired, though.
Where the fuck was y'all fighting at?
I got tired.
How you winning the fight and then quit?
I got tired. He quit all the time. you winning the fight and then quit? I got tired.
He quit all the time.
I know.
It was two more rounds left, and I couldn't move my feet.
You should have threw your shoe off.
Oh, I got to get my shoe.
That's why I did that.
I just jumped off the ring like, fuck it.
I don't give a fuck no more.
I'm already paid.
I'm tired.
I'm tired.
I got to the point where I was going to let him knock me out.
That's how tired you get.
Damn.
So I've seen the opportunity.
You ain't even really hit me, but I fell out.
I could hit.
So girls.
Hey, just give me $150.
Hey, that's my shit.
Give me my money.
Go ahead.
I'm going to fall out for you, man.
You ain't even got to put all that energy into it. You swinging too hard Go ahead. I'm going to fall out for you, man. You ain't even got to put all that energy into it.
You swinging too hard, bro.
I'm going to fall.
Relax.
I'm going to fall.
You don't even have to swing.
He's like, you got to bet that he's going to quit.
That's the highest probability he's going to quit.
How long Nick been in here?
Five minutes.
All right, you got two more minutes?
Two minutes?
Let me double down on the quick.
Let me double down on the quick.
I don't like being touched that much.
So, Gil, back to the conversation.
As a fellow number zero, agent zero,
do you respect Halliburton
for going that game?
Of course. I mean, this is the playoffs.
This is what creates legacies.
It creates, you know, who you are, you know, standing up on the shit you're
saying and, you know, accepting the challenge.
So, you know, both zeros, you know.
Can we stop the zero on zero, B?
We got to stop.
Oh, shit.
You're going to be stuck in Milwaukee if you keep fucking around.
Nobody want to be stuck out there
Nick your family still looking for you
in the greater Milwaukee area
like I said
you wasn't at the reunion
Milwaukee
wasn't at Summerfest
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So let's talk a little bit more about Halliburton.
So Tuesday, the Athletic released their anonymous player polls covering a variety of topics,
which included who is the most overrated player in the league.
We have that list for you.
So 90 players, or roughly 20% of the league, participated in this poll.
Anonymously, of course, did not put their name on it.
And Tyrese Halliburton took the top spot with over 14% of the vote.
Rudy Gobert came in second with 10%.
Trey Young was third with nearly 9%.
Jimmy Buckets was fourth with 5.5%.
And Bradley Beal, Draymond John, and Julius Randle were all tied for fifth
with 4.4% of the vote.
So after the Pacers' game to win,
Hallie and Rick Carlisle were asked about his most overrated distinction.
They had this reaction.
I must be doing something right, you know, if that's the case.
You know, I don't have a big speech or comment on it. I mean, all I care about is this locker room and winning games. And,
you know, we're in a position to, you know, go to Milwaukee and, you know, continue this series
on. So not too worried about that. I know I am. I'm confident in my own skin and not worried about, you know,
what anybody thinks.
My teammates trust me.
So, you know, my front office, my coaching staff.
So I'm good.
I could care less.
I heard about this, and the other guys on the list were Jimmy Butler
and Giannis, right?
And I want to see the guys' faces that voted those guys.
I want to see the faces of those guys, all right? This is a
bulls**t poll. Not everybody even answered in the poll, all right? Guys were able to answer if they
wanted to. They were asked on camera or with a microphone. The whole thing is bulls**t, okay?
And it's just, it's really a shameful thing. It's just a shameful thing,
all right? Jimmy Butler would be a finalist for MVP if, you know, he had gotten to Golden State
a month and a half earlier. I mean, with that guy's done. And Giannis, are you kidding me?
I'm done. Thank you.
Big Jim Carrey.
Let me show you something!
Yeah!
Woo!
Woo!
Fire must have been...
So...
Now I say...
Now I say I go over here...
and touch this fire!
So we showed you the list.
Giannis, I think was 5th or 10th on the list. Giannis, I think, was five for ten on the list.
Most overrated players with a bunch of people.
I ain't never like Rick.
So, Mr. B, do you respect Rick Carlisle's reaction to the anonymous poll
calling Tyrese Halliburton the most overrated player in the league?
Yeah, I mean, I feel him.
I mean, that's his player.
Like, you know, that's his point guard.
I don't think he's the most overrated player in the NBA.
I mean, we can find somebody else.
But, yeah, I just think, you know, I just don't think they like his game.
I think it's just Indiana, you know.
But he's not the most overrated player in the NBA.
I'm not rolling with that at all.
And that list is crazy with those players on there.
Because Trey Young was high.
Can we bring this overrated list back up, please, when you get a second?
I think it's all life-scans.
The fact that they are asking players this shit.
Sick.
They've been doing it.
I ain't like this dude, but it's like Trae Young being third.
Trae Young notorious for getting a lot of hate amongst his peers.
It is all through life-scans, though.
When I was in the league, they had a poll.
It was who think they better than what they really are.
Me and Dante Jones, one and two.
One and two.
Who thinks they're better than what they really are?
These niggas is delusional.
Even to this day.
You knew that poll?
Yeah.
You heard the poll, he said.
I know they had poles, but I didn't know what to do.
Did they stand up to you?
Like, how do you receive these poles?
How do you receive them?
They were in the locker room.
It's on your seat.
Shut the fuck up.
Yeah, it's like voting.
Like, they put the little joint on your seat.
Like, you know, what do you think?
And people feel, somebody would be like, all right, yeah, let me.
You don't have to. Like you like, you know, what do you think? And people feel, somebody would be like, all right, yeah, let me. You don't have to.
Like you said, you don't have to.
So, yeah, there was
different player totals
for the different categories
in the Athletic Anonymous
player poll.
90 votes, like I said,
roughly 20% of the league.
But this is why you can't
let players vote for shit.
They, I mean.
I think it's more.
I think 90 were the players
who responded.
Don't know how many players were asked to participate in the poll.
No, it's all in the locker rooms, but people just throw it away.
But what I'm saying is overrated means they're getting awards that they do not deserve.
Right?
That you're being put in a category that your game probably doesn't fit.
Right?
You averaging a double-double.
I'm sorry, you don't belong there.
Right?
Rudy Goldberg don't belong.
I mean, you can say he shouldn't be defensive player.
Four-time defensive player.
You could say that, but, I mean, for the most part, that's not it.
He does his job.
Trae Young, I mean, get the fuck out of here.
Jimmy Butler, get out of here.
Bradley Beal, he averaged 30,
so it's not like he's getting awards right now that puts him on this list.
I think this is just based on, I believe, this season.
Again, he's not getting nothing that says he should be on this list.
I think players may be looking at the bread he's getting now.
Mm-hmm.
In the Olympics.
I know, but I'm not.
It's accurate.
But his bread came from...
But when you're a hater, you're going to find something to hate.
No, it's...
I think it's more off the court than anything, probably.
You don't know he's just off the court.
But how he carry himself sometimes.
I think so.
No, it's not.
It's got to be.
It's preference, bro.
It's Hooper preference.
Like they don't like his game? You go out there, you like a nigga game, or you don't. And that's not. It's preference, bro. It's Hooper preference. Like, they don't like his game?
You go out there, you like a nigga game, or you don't.
And that's it.
And it's like, man, I don't like his game.
Yeah, he get it done, but, man, that shit nasty.
I think he overrated.
So that's what makes it overrated?
Because you don't like it.
You think it's nasty.
Nigga bust my ass, he overrated.
But he didn't get it done.
Basically.
You bust my ass, you overrated.
That's how he get it done.
That's how he get it done.
Like Kevin Martin from Sack. Yeah. The way didn't get it done. Basically. You bust my ass, you overrate it. That's how he get it done. That's how he get it done. Like Kevin Martin from SAC.
Yeah.
The way he was doing his shit, he will bust your ass.
But you'll be like, man, that shit nasty.
That shit nasty.
I'll let him.
Yeah, that shit don't count.
It really be like, it don't count. How it don't count?
He busting your ass.
Don't matter how it look.
Now, you have to go for like somebody who made the all-star team.
And you be like, you didn't deserve this. And that you're overrated-star team. You didn't deserve this.
You're overrated for your award.
He didn't make it this year?
He didn't make the all-star team.
It's like something like that.
You got something that your game doesn't deserve.
That's really how you should be looking at it.
You can't say top-tier players is overrated. It's someone who's getting rewarded as if they're Tyrese or Trae Young
or even a Jimmy Butler.
You're getting these awards over these guys.
I said this before, though.
They gave Holly too much too fast,
and now he has to live up to what he got early.
And he can't because his game is not that type of game
where it's going to impress you to the point
where he's going to be up there with all the other guys
that was in front of him, the Stephs and all of them.
What do you have to share?
Only thing he can do is pass.
He has to pass his way past people.
He can't score his way past people.
He has to assist his way.
Halliburton had 19
nine assists, four rebounds.
When he was getting the hype.
He was having games where it was like 17 and 15.
Like 15 and 17 assists.
9.2 assists, 1.6
turnovers per game.
He on his CP shit.
He's on his Jose Calderon shit.
When they play in the play-in tournament. Not the play-in. The Vegas He on his CP shit. He's on his Jose Polteron shit. Man, they playing
the playing tournament.
Not the playing
in that,
the Vegas championship.
The in-season tournament?
When was that?
Last year or?
Last year.
That's when he was
getting that hype.
The tournament championship.
Because he was getting
like 40 and shit.
But everybody
didn't know his game.
Yeah.
But now.
Now we've adapted
and guys are guarding him now
and they're like,
man, this ain't like that.
Yeah, he's not shooting no second. But we got to pick one player.
So last year, Gobert had the top spot.
He had 13.6% of the vote.
I would pick Bradfield, honestly.
Jordan Poole had 8.6% of the vote.
Julius Randolph.
Jordan Poole?
This was last season's player poll.
I don't know.
Jordan Poole was the most overrated? No, heoole. I don't know. Jordan Poole was the most
overrated? No, he was second. Gobert was first last
year, nearly 14%. Jordan Poole
second. Trae Young third
this year. Trae Young was third last year as well.
90 votes
out of 300?
It's like 450 players
in the league around about, plus two-way
contracts, probably a little bit more.
Yeah, that's a trash ass. And we don't know which
90 of the, I mean, it could be
all-headed. Do y'all think he's overrated?
No. No. No, I don't.
He hasn't gotten anything that says he's
overrated.
And he's still got years.
But do you think the players are looking at
how much bread some of these dudes are making and that's
fueling the hate? I'm just asking, you know what I mean?
Other guys in the league, like,
damn, he got a max deal, he got a max deal.
I deserve a max deal if we overrate it.
He's like this Drake off the court, Drake shit.
He's got like a Drake... There's only one person that actually fits it.
Like, if you're going to say overrated,
if you take off...
If you just take off everyone's name
and you just put their stats in their accolades, right, you take off... you just put their stats in their accolades,
you just put their stats in the accolades
that they've received for those stats,
only Draymond Green would fit the category.
Because you're going to talk about
with the stats of his career,
stats of eight, six, and five, you
know, four-time All-Star, eight-time All-Defensive player, two-time All-NBA, just four-time All-Star,
two-time All-NBA, with those stats, it wouldn't match up.
If you take the name off and you take the championships off and you take the team success
off, and we're saying as a player, who's overrated as a player, that means you take away team success off and we're saying as a player who's overrated as a player that means you
take away team success absolutely who are you and you stand on yourself right and sometimes the
defensive players from an offensive side we can't value we can't value what you bring off defensively
right so to know if you're even worthy of some of the stuff you get.
So that's for a defensive person to say that what he does defensively
is this offensively.
But you talk about Draymond.
So from a player's perspective, obviously he's embraced that system,
sacrificed a lot of his offensive game.
I have seen Draymond drop 32-15-7 in the finals.
Yeah, but when you say...
So he has the capabilities.
No, but when you say four-time All-Star,
two-time All-NBA
player, and then if you
just put the stats that he had and then you
go to cross the board in the NBA,
people will be like, how's this making
it? Now you got to throw in the record.
You got to take the records out.
What I'm saying is... Two times.
Based on team success, obviously.
But now he's on a trash team in the league.
Do we feel like his production is not...
That's meaningless.
You don't understand. He's cooking right now.
No, I get it.
Like, he's cooking.
Let him serve.
I remember 14-7-9.
If you take back
Ben Simmons and give Ben Simmons
winning teams, people wouldn't
call him trash. No shit, he's
all world.
Ben Simmons wasn't trash.
No, he wasn't, but when you throw in team
success, it heightens you.
So when you say, alright, who is
overrated, you gotta go
for the awards they get. I don you say, all right, who is overrated, you got to go for the awards they get.
I don't know, though.
You can't say
you're top 15, and then we say,
what's your numbers? You're like, 9, 6, and
5. They're like, wait, what? Nick, look
at what he's saying, though. He's saying
think about somebody that's rated
in front of you. I get it.
That has less stats.
That has less stats. I just said take away T. Take less stats. I just said, take away T.
Take away that.
But you can't take away that.
Yes, you can, because we're talking about ability.
We're talking about winning percentage.
We're saying overrated as a player.
He's doing what he's doing for that system.
And that's a plug and play then.
That means we can put somebody else in that position.
No, you can't.
Why not?
A lot of people have been trying, and they ain't got succeeded like Draymond.
Because he ain't never moved from the spot.
But you just mentioned Simmons.
Everybody that tried to get a Draymond.
No.
No, no, no, no, no.
You're trying to get a Draymond, you have to have a Steph.
When we're saying top 15, you are a top 15 player in the NBA.
That means when we get the pick in, we're saying the top 15 best.
That's what all NBA is.
And you see somebody average 9, 6, and 5, and you average 34 that year, but your team is sorry.
You average 34.
You're not saying, oh, my God, he's better than me as a player.
Right.
You're not doing that.
You're going to be like, then they go overrated.
They gave him that because this.
They gave him that.
I gave you that because this. They gave him that. Like, I gave you that because this.
Because it's team one.
That's what this list is really supposed to be about.
But we don't do it like that as players.
You bust my ass and you was talking shit,
you're overrated.
So Dame, who's the most overrated?
He's going to say Hallie.
Hallie, who's the most overrated?
He's going to say Dame
because they're beefing right now.
Yep.
Right. Right. But Hallie actually respect Dane and he look up Westbrook was the most overrated when he was averaging the triple-double right overrated
as fuck yeah you can't you don't mean those are not that's not the over he ain't that
good he ain't that good so if players like who was your most overrated who was the most overrated in your position when you was playing?
He played in Denver.
Who?
He played in Denver.
Oh, and a follow?
I did.
Of course.
No, but what I'm saying is someone who's getting.
Nah, but he was getting.
He was getting everything. Someone's getting some credit.
And he's like, your game is not like that, bro.
It's not like that.
I could do that
and put all the followers
in the chat.
Yeah, you're sick.
You're sick.
These are the weakest
16 points ever.
And that's how that works.
And we're like,
man, you give me that kind
of motherfucking bump, nigga.
Fuck Asian,
what you talking about?
But that's, you know.
So if players were asked
to do this
and put their name on it
so you could see their vote,
how many guys do you think
would actually participate?
If you force players
to actually put their name
on it and do it, you'll get a different list.
Yeah, okay. And people...
What's going to happen is...
It'd be like 12 moments.
It'd be like Brownie number one or something.
Whoever voted for Trae Young, all we're going to do is
let's see what he did against you.
We know what you're on here, man.
We know what you're here for.
Right, right, right.
And he did this at the end.
You never.
I mean, the only person who's on there that doesn't talk trash is probably Brad.
Brad.
He'll.
I ain't ready to go, bro.
I don't know.
Rudy sounds like he just irritates people.
And talks for them.
Rudy don't wear deodorant.
He don't know if Rudy sounds like he just irritates people. And talks for them. Rudy don't wear deodorant. You don't say anything.
But usually it's just trash.
Usually it's just trash talkers.
They're like, damn, Rudy, you suck that blue.
Is Joel overrated?
Who?
Is Joel overrated?
And B?
No.
No.
Hell no.
No.
So we asked the chat, is Julius?
No. He's not being healthy, man.
Julius, like
even Draymond. Can the situation
be overrated? I wouldn't put Draymond as
an overrated player,
but if I'm looking at this list
in the awards, okay, yeah. But
overall, none of these guys would be.
You can't put Draymond in. No, what I'm saying is
I wouldn't put none of these guys as
overrated.
Yeah, but...
Because media pushing it, that's just...
That's not the problem.
Right?
It's...
No, I think it goes back to what you said.
It's really hard.
It's about the money.
You give them the money and you match up the ability and you say,
man, he's stealing.
He's stealing.
And he's stealing.
He's stealing, though.
When you guys were playing, though, how often did you look at other dudes
or make them feel like, hold up.
Who's stealing?
None of them are stealing.
The only person that's stealing would be Black.
It's Javid.
It's Javid.
Everybody up there has performed to a level at some point.
Yeah, yeah.
That's all that matters.
Yeah, at some point we was like, yo, he's killing right now.
You know what I'm saying?
But then again, the expectations that are set beyond that, we now like, all right, we're expecting you to perform here now.
So when you dip, Brad, when you dip, your money not dipping.
Joel, that's what I said.
Your money not dipping.
I mean, the MVP, like injury, injury is stopping him.
That's not performance.
That's the difference. Performance and injury. But like, you know what I'm saying? Injury. In, injury is stopping him. That's not performance. That's the difference.
Performance and injury.
But, like, I'm saying injury.
Injury is keeping him out when he's playing.
He's killing.
He's averaging 34.
Same with Kawhi.
Same with Kawhi.
No, he's not getting it.
Like, you're just saying Kawhi's overrated.
You can't say Kawhi because he's still performing at a high level.
Kawhi is balling.
If they tried to say that, you could say he's still balling. Yeah. I'm like, he's not overrated. Kawhi is balling. It's a difference say that, you could say he's still balling.
I'm like, he's not overrated.
Kawhi is balling.
It's a difference.
We asked to chat.
It's Hallie.
President Lee.
Yeah.
Overrated.
Okay.
Scottie Pippen.
Junior.
Stop it.
Overrated.
Senior or junior?
Senior.
Senior?
If y'all want to say Draymond.
No way.
Senior.
No way.
Senior took Portland to the West Country.
Come on, man.
What you mean, man?
Same.
Same.
Come on. He's a winning mean, man? Same thing.
He's a winning on a winning team.
Pippen family dealing with it right now.
When Mike Levy went to the conference finals. It's the same thing.
It's the same thing Draymond did.
We asked the chat, is Hallie the most overrated player in the NBA?
68% of the chat says no.
So, in another anonymous poll.
Man.
Is Draymond the same thing?
No.
Draymond is more like Luke Longley. Scottie Pippen got the bulls to the Eastern Conference finals. No. Draymond is more like
Luke Longley.
Scottie Pippen got the bulls
to the Eastern Conference.
No, he's Dennis Rodman.
And Portland.
My bad, not Luke.
Is he?
Dennis Rodman.
We're dead.
14, 16.
See, even with Dennis,
like, I got to ask someone
who's, like, in the defense
to show, like,
to really ask them, like,
how important is this guy
on the defensive side as an offensive player to that side? him, like, how important is this guy on the
defensive side as an offensive player
to that side? Because you know what I mean? Like,
what Dennis brings, what Draymond brings,
what Rudy Goldberg brings,
we can't see it
in real time.
Right? Because we're looking at across the
board. Like, even somebody like Brooke Lopez,
right? It's easy to say,
nigga, you got one rebound. Get the fuck off the court. I don't know how many box outs he's doing. Oh, yeah, right? It's easy to say, nigga, you got one rebound.
Get the fuck off the court.
I don't know how many box outs he's doing.
Oh, yeah, he's covering the bases.
You know what I mean?
He's covering the small bases.
It's the things we don't like that he should be doing.
Yeah, I understand what you're saying, but one rebound on the footer.
Like the Steven Adams, right?
Because we was watching Westbrook in real time.
We was missing everything.
Like, okay, he's making sure nobody else get it,
so Westbrook and the team can get it.
Okay, we get that.
So his rebounds are suffering, but the team offensive rebounds,
you're not getting those.
And I guess that's the most important part of it.
Well, can we try to dissect the Draymond importance
from the defense part to the offense part?
Like, what would that comparison be
for him like because what i see it's not so much defensive than it is the dribble handoffs the
rolling the be in the middle guy he's a good he comes from michigan state right so they are very
defensive minded on fundamentals where to be, crack down, nail pat,
all the nail shit.
He knows that shit.
So I see him as a guy who does fundamental defense.
He's the leader in that.
So in football, is he like the center?
He's the most important person.
He's a linebacker.
Keep everybody away from – no, I'm just saying to keep everybody away from
quarterback.
Curry, yes.
Okay. Yes. Okay.
Yes.
Yes.
So, Curry's, so when you're talking about Curry's success, the screening, people getting the ball, people moving, he is the reason it's all working well.
Because he has to talk to all of the line and tell them we're moving left, we're moving right.
Yeah, then he wouldn't be considered part of this overration.
Yeah, overration.
That's what I'm saying.
I mean, I don't think so.
It's hard.
It's a hard thing to figure out because you have to put criterias.
That would make him more important.
I think the comparison.
Yes.
It would make him more important.
He's more important than everybody out there.
But would he be like that in another system?
That's always been my thing, too. But would he be like that in another system?
That's always been my thing, too.
Because you don't have that setup.
You don't have Steph.
You don't have Klay.
You don't have KD.
Now, who you dribble handoff into?
Who's giving it back to you?
But would he be more of an offensive threat?
I mean, like I said, he's embraced the system,
embraced the role with the Warriors.
He's on a different team.
But what is his offensive threat?
What is it? I've seen him perform at a high level offensively when he had to earlier in his career.
It seems like he just –
But how did that happen?
Your sacrifice has nothing to do with what we're pretending you could do.
Right.
No, I get it.
I understand.
Your 32 and 15 came because we out here.
Why should he do that if he's getting it done?
We already said it.
But I can still go get it.
That's why he's arguing.
I'm going to say he can get it done.
But how would he look in Orlando?
Right now. You know what I'm same. How would he look in Orlando? You know what I'm saying?
How would he look in Orlando?
Or Miami?
You would never know.
Or how would he look in Detroit?
He can know, though.
We are hoopers that can use our imagination, Nick.
When you deflect like that, that means you don't want to talk about it.
Nobody knew James was going to go to Houston to get average 50.
But we can talk about it.
Yeah, we did.
But, hey, we can talk about it. Yeah. We can talk about it, Nick, we did. We could talk about it.
Yeah, we could talk about it, Nick.
I did. We could talk about it.
If David Long plays in Orlando
with no shooters,
what does it look like?
I don't know. It looks like a bunch of what?
Back then, it might have looked good.
It's easier for us
to say who's underrated
versus who is overrated.
Yeah.
That seems more like an easier one to pick.
Cade Cunningham was voted most underrated in the athletic poll.
Yeah, all you do is just find someone who's good in a small market.
Yeah.
They don't get credit.
Him, Giannis, right?
You can just look at...
De'Aaron Fox.
...Pablo Ventero, De'Aaron Fox.
You can look at those guys.
Like, they're not getting all the...
Like, Dame, when he was in Portland.
And that's like Trae Young.
Like, how is Trae Young...
Trae Young should be underrated.
He would be considered underrated.
Man, it's crazy.
That's insane.
He's overrated.
Who?
He would be considered underrated.
If we had to do the most underrated
and had a top 10, majority of those guys would be on it. Indiana would be considered underrated. If we had to do the most underrated and had a top 10,
majority of those guys would be on it.
Those guys would actually be on the list.
Nobody thought Indiana was really going to be doing it.
They didn't have nobody when they traded.
It was just a bonus.
And Buddy Hill, you brought this kid who was playing back up to somebody
who you said, nah, we ain't going, we ain't thinking about him.
Got rid of him anyway and lost an all-NBA player in the process.
Let's keep this thing moving in the right direction.
Left with Malik Monk now.
Got to talk about the most important game on the docket last night.
So Lakers got smacked in game one as the Wolves stole home court advantage
with a 22-point win
on the latest episode of his Mind the Game podcast,
which dropped Tuesday,
but was taped weeks ago, as they pointed out.
LeBron offered these thoughts
on the importance of a game two
after a game one loss at home.
It doesn't matter if you go on the road,
you start on the road,
and you beat the team by 25 game one.
Game two is going to be the
hardest game that you have to play they're mad they're sitting at home they're pissed about the
game that they lost what they didn't do well how they didn't play well the coaches is on their ass
they embarrassed that next game is going to be the hardest game and you have to stay even kill
you have to get your friends and family out of your ear you have to get off of social media because they're going everybody's going to praise the shit out of you
like you just won the greatest thing of all time and you have to be able to just get away from it
all so uh well apparently if you've seen enough of the game then you definitely know how to mind it
lebron has never gone down oh two when entering a series with home court advantage, and Tuesday night he kept that streak alive thanks in large part to a dominant
performance from Luka. Let's take a look at the highlights. So before the game, J.J. Redick
challenged the Lakers to be more physical on defense and more organized on offense. Luka was
phenomenal in the first quarter, again outscoring the Wolves by himself 16-15 as the Lakers led by
19 after the first 12 minutes of game action. Luka finished with 31 points, 12 rebounds, and 9 dimes,
becoming just the third player in Lakers history
with 30-plus points in his first two playoff games with the team,
joining George Mikan, surprisingly, and Shaq.
Lakers pouted on in the second quarter, leading by as much as 22,
but Wolves went on a 12-5 run to cut the deficit to 15 at the half.
Damn.
That's tough.
Luka told him to sub him out.
He let his ego bear on him.
Doing a little bit of everything.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
MN for Newark as well. But Wolves came out solid third quarter, chipping away at the lead
and forcing an irate J.J. Redick to call a timeout
and ask his squad, what the F is going on?
What the F are you guys doing?
After the game, LeBron said,
we understand J.J. is going to span us out from time to time.
Span us out worked as the Lakers immediately went on a 9-0 run
to go back up by 20.
But Wolves made things interesting in the fourth quarter,
going on a 12-3 run to cut the deficit to nine.
But both teams were sloppy offensively near the end of the game.
Why we don't put this on the big screen?
LeBron had 21 points, 11 boards, and 7 dimes on 8-19 shooting.
Lemon Daddy Austin Reeves chipped in 16-5-5.
He was 7-14 from the field. 0-5
from three. And fresh off his
$50,000 fine for telling a Lakers fan
my dick bigger than yours. Anthony Edwards
came through with 25 points and 6 boards.
10-22 from the field. 2-8 from
three. Julius Randle led the Wolves in
scoring with 27 points.
The big key in this game, game
one, McDaniels and Nas Reed combined for 48
points. They were 19-25, 9-12 from three.
Game two held to a combined 17 points, 6-19 shooting, 1-6 from deep in game two.
So, Lakers allowed the fewest points in a game this season,
and 85 was also a season low for the Wolves.
Wolves shot 38% from the field, 20% from the three.
Damn.
So, Sean, looking at this game two,
Lakers tying the series up,
what's the biggest takeaways from the Lakers game
to win over the Wolves?
Sean, it's in full effect.
You did come to the arena yesterday
in a LeBron James high school jersey.
Said if you play like the young fella,
the Lakers in six.
It's cool.
Luca's back.
I told you.
Once we free Willy, cue the theme music.
Do do do do.
Do do do do.
Do do do do.
Do do do do.
That is 90s.
See, see, see, see, see.
Yeah, feeling like 1990 again, ain't it?
Yeah.
Luka look good out there.
I like it, man.
I like what I see.
Lakers in six.
Let's go, baby.
Free Willy.
Keep this energy up.
If you're not trolling, you really believe Lakers.
Huh?
I see you rocking the Luka home jersey, the Caucasian colored Luka throwbacks.
Stop, man.
That's free Willie shit.
It's funny, man.
Man, you don't look like no.
Free Willie.
Free Willie.
They just sent him to the beautiful ocean that is Los Angeles.
Free Willie.
The beautiful ocean that is Los Angeles.
Tons of hookah bars.
Nah, man. Leave Luca alone, man. He playing good. Leave him alone, man. Of Angeles. Tons of hookah bars. Nah man, leave Luka alone, man.
He playing good, leave him alone, man.
Of course, but let him drink his beer, let him complain.
Luka mic'd up in the game, talking crazy.
This is Gils Arena.
You know what to expect.
Yeah, it's him, man.
We're in playoff.
I'm gonna find him real, dude.
Swaggy, once you regain your composure,
please let us know what your biggest takeaways were from the game to win over the Wolves.
Tie the series up.
Man.
Anthony Edwards.
That's my favorite.
That's one of my favorite players.
That's probably my second favorite player right now.
Unfiltered.
Ant-Man, I hate to see him lose, though, man.
I'm a Laker fan, but Ant-Man is going to be his NBA.
But Luka came to play, man.
Lakers going to win.
But once Ant-Man embraces his true, I want to say, Kobe-ism,
I think the NBA is going to be in trouble.
Is he going to stay at mini?
Who?
He might have to because we already got Luka.
Wait, is he going stay at a mini?
If he trying to win he better he ain't gonna win there
Yeah
They didn't make shot the go over here. Hey, I mean, I'm sorry. They were tired. I'm locked up the man Daniels have like nine
I already knew that was gonna happen. I mean to
Go I already knew that was going to happen. Me too. That was Fools' goal. Fools' goal.
Yeah, but as a team, they shot, what, 38?
He had eight points.
Nas Reed had nine.
I thought Nas was going to show up.
I almost took that higher on him.
I was like, nah.
We took eight shots in the game.
Yeah, picked up some quick fouls.
You got to put that into account, too.
Foul trouble with the Wolves, they always get in foul trouble.
I mean, the whistle was a little bit different. That whistle whistle was a little bright. Yeah, a little bright yellow and purple little one-sided. I mean, I mean, like you said, very evenly
LeBron has never went down. What? Oh, too. When he's at home quarterback. Thank you very
much. Game. So we down with that. What's that? I took the higher on everybody. Very evenly officiated game.
I don't think either side can complain with the...
Boy, JJ was hot, wasn't he?
So let's talk.
So we talked about the JJ Redick clip third quarter.
The Wolves had cut the lead to 11.
This was JJ Redick after that happened.
I love it, bro.
Shit. Shit.
Damn.
Let me speak to your medical.
Look at Junior.
He's like, yeah, JJ's mad.
Man, they about to go up.
That's a great coach.
Like LeBron said, you know, JJ spazzes out from time to time.
They use that as motivation.
Went on a 9-0 run immediately after that.
Has Doug done that?
That's a great coach.
Hey. Can he do it?
Yeah. With his voice limitation.
Somebody cussed him out.
You know where it's coming from.
I like that,
though. I mean, I like that. Even though
we up, they up, what? They was up 9?
They're up 11 at that point. What the fuck is he doing, Dog?
Up 11. Lee was dwindling,
went on a 9-0 run after that.
I think that was right at the point Kevin Gates walked in.
I think he literally called that timeout and was like, yo, yo, yo, yo, fuck this.
Hold the fuck up.
Timeout.
What the fuck are we doing?
Who let him in?
Kevin Gates sitting courtside with Brittany.
What are we doing?
Who let him in?
Timeout.
Hey, before he see him in, before he see him.
Nah, he didn't.
Timeout.
He was sitting courtside.
Timeout.
High price season. Man, hell no.ide. Time out. High price season.
Man, hell no.
Yeah.
Time out.
Lakers is tripping.
Huh?
That would have stopped him at the gate.
Time out.
Man, listen, man.
I guess he thought he was going to have a moment like Stephen A, man.
He did.
He was on that moment.
Time out.
JJ said, hell no.
He ain't doing none of that shit.
Looking for a Stephen A moment.
Unfortunately, LeBron locked in.
He locked in.
Yeah, he locked in, man.
Didn't get it.
Didn't get it.
He tried to trap me.
He tried to sell records, man.
Sitting there courtside looking crazy.
He upped his play after that, though.
Next to Jack Black, shout out to the Minecraft movie.
Performed almost as good as Sinners.
Almost as good.
That Minecraft movie's crazy.
Them kids, they go crazy.
They act like Sinners in that movie.
They act like Sinners in that movie. Popcorn. Off the map. Hey, it says the kids are in there fighting. They act like sinners in that movie. They act like sinners in that movie.
They're going, Pac-Man.
Minecraft?
Hey, you say the kids was fighting in the Minecraft?
Fighting?
Police came and...
Minecraft?
The kids.
The kids in there, I built it bigger than your shop.
They're going crazy.
So, Gil, we'll see that JJ right here.
Do you appreciate his fire intensity?
I was your first-year head coach,
former co-host of Mind the Game podcast with LeBron James.
Here we go.
Here we go.
What are we talking about?
The Los Angeles Lakers, also known as the Lucas.
Shout-out Can't Beat LA for this lovely shirt.
It's 1-1, man. It's 1-1, man. I don't like this calm gear.
It's 1-1.
What are we celebrating?
Oh, you want to wait until y'all get done?
Oh, no celebration, but...
No, man, I'm already in the second round, bruh.
So you already have looked ahead to the Rockets
in round two?
No, I'm just kidding.
After yesterday, you could see the writing on the wall.
What was that writing on the wall?
It's easy work, man.
They're not going to be able to keep switching
out Rudy Gober on Luka.
I mean, it's just...
You got team basketball,
then you got one-on-one basketball with Julius.
I mean, you know, he's making shots now,
but you're not going to be able to sustain that for a whole series
on how they play.
They rely on – I don't even know what their offense really actually is
once it gets out of Ant-Man's hand.
You know, it becomes a one-on-one basketball game.
All right, when is the next series?
I mean, how much NBA is going to milk out of the series
when it comes to cash?
We do have the extender promo on the $100 app.
We do have Scott Foster, the extender here,
a cardboard version of him.
Don't be fooled.
But I'll see y'all in the second round. Don't be
fooled. What? None to see here.
What seat is the Lakers?
The Lakers are the third seat.
What seat are the...
Six. Six.
Did we steal one at home?
Mm-hmm.
You saying we as in Minnesota Timberwolves?
Just the opposite. The opposite stole one
at home. Okay.
Home court advantage.
Now you got to come back to us for two more.
You don't think we're going to get one more?
We can steal one from you.
You don't think we're going to get one at home?
Shit, we might get two at home.
It's going to look a lot different.
Was they supposed to get the first one?
It looked pretty convincing.
Well, game one.
I mean, they shot the ball well.
I mean, they shot the shot of that ball.
But game one was convincing.
21-42 from three in game one for the Timberwolves.
Open looks.
Open looks.
They shot that.
They shot that.
They shot that.
They shot that.
They shot that.
They shot that.
They shot that.
They shot that.
They shot that.
They shot that.
They shot that.
They shot that.
Daniel is not going for the five threes again.
They shot well in that first game.
Wolves were five for 25 in game two.
Daniel and Daniel are making 12 threes together. Okay.ves were 5 for 25 in game two. Daniels and Nas Reed not making 12 threes together, okay?
Wolves 5 for 25 in game two.
Daniels and Nas Reed making 12 threes together is not happening again.
Any team will lose.
96 Bulls will lose.
Shit.
They ain't playing like that.
It ain't going to happen again.
It's all right.
Put something on it.
Yeah, I don't think they're going to shoot like that.
They can put something on it. Yeah, I don't think they're going to shoot like that. They're going to put something on it?
Luka's going to foul.
I don't think that we have a game.
As basketball players, we don't have random games that just fall.
Yeah, yeah.
Shit just, come on, man.
It ain't going to happen again.
It don't happen back to back.
Can't count that in.
That happened already.
You steal hoopers.
It happened already.
Hey, I get open shots.
Knock them down.
Knock them down. Knock them down.
What's my percentage of shooting threes?
I'm shooting 37, 38%.
Hey, young fella, keep shooting.
Knock that shit down because you're going to have one of the games,
D'Vincenzo, where you're going to go six for seven from three.
D'Vincenzo, who we know can do that.
He's over there.
I'm just saying.
It look different when you steal one from L.A.
If L.A. up 2-0 right now,
I'm agreeing with y'all.
For them to give up one at home.
But you know, man, Luka liked
Lakers in six.
He said it just don't look good.
It don't look good.
God damn.
We're live on the air.
Trying to watch the game real quick.
If they don't get one in many, it's nasty.
Shot six for 29 from the three and one easily to host.
I mean.
A nasty shooting performance on both sides.
Wool was 20% from three.
Lakers 21%.
3 for 11.
0 for 3 last night.
Huh?
Daniels, 0 for 3 last night.
He only took three. He's had? Danny Daniels, 0 for three last night. He only took three.
He's had 11 times, so he's 3 for 11.
3 for 11, 0 for three from three.
Yeah.
Nas Reed, 1 for three from three.
He was 3 for 8 from the field.
He's won the game.
Game three is a big game.
It's easily controlled because everybody's switching on Luka.
And the fact that he knows how to get fouled,
Nas Reed can be in foul trouble all the time.
Yeah.
Rudy Gober, because he switches on him a lot,
can be in foul trouble all the time.
So it's easy to dictate if they're going to play this game or not.
Because you're switching.
Like, you can't hide anybody.
Like, if I want to foul Rudy Gober out, it's easy.
Switch.
Pop.
Pop.
Pop.
Sit your stupid ass down.
Nas Reed couldn't even play yesterday.
Do you want to foul Gober out, though?
Would you rather kick it on Nas Reed?
He couldn't play.
Why did Nas?
Couldn't perform.
He was on the bench the whole time.
As soon as he subbed in, foul.
Foul.
Foul.
Coach left him in when he had two fouls.
Because?
Finch is being dumb.
Okay?
You play the zone against Luka.
You don't send your big up to be in the pick and roll,
so he switches and he's in the island.
You keep him down.
You play zone.
You shrink the floor.
Luka's at the top. Shrink. Make him pass to this guy. He got to shoot the three. He got to in the island. You keep him down. You play zone. You shrink the floor. Luka's at the top. Shrink.
Make him pass to this guy. He got to shoot the
three. He got to shoot the three. He got to shoot
the three. Contest it. That's all we need. Shrink
the floor when he catch the ball. What is
he going to do? Dance, dance, dance. He sees two.
Step back, jumper. He sees two. Step back, jumper
three. We're living and dying with
Luka Doncic, a hand up,
shooting three. Grease ain't made a three yet.
We'll live with that. He's 0 for 6. Wait till he can go. But what we seen last night was Luka drivingic, a hand up, shooting three. Green's ain't made a three yet. We'll live with that. He's 0 for 6.
Wait till he can go.
But what we seen last night was Luka driving in little angles,
getting into the lane because they are not shrinking.
They're hugging up to Rui.
They're hugging up to Fannie Smith.
And they're hugging up to Vincent.
For what?
I mean, backdoor cuts?
None of that.
They got slashers.
They not that dangerous.
They not that fucking dangerous. You cue in on of that. They got flashers. They not that dangerous. They not that fucking dangerous.
You Q in on two people.
They got two guys.
And a half.
Yeah, but Luka passes the ball.
When he not open.
We would love if they play zone.
And he don't got shit, he'll pass it.
Man, that'd be so easy.
Shit.
That's the reason Finney can't get off.
How you think you lost last year?
We didn't have five shooters.
Now we have five shooters.
So if you want to play zone, that means...
I mean, you can play zone, you can put Bronner.
Shamar. Shamar. Shamar.
Shamar Moore. Shamar Moore gets his open shots now.
Yeah. They switched up.
Dallas lost last year because
Boston was just a totally better team.
They understood
how to play that.
They understood. I don't think nobody had Dallas
winning last year. Nobody.
Nobody got the Lakers winning this year.
Well, some of us.
I don't...
You just gotta guard it differently. You guard it differently.
Stop guarding it like everybody else
guarding it. I was gonna switch it.
You on your own without Luka.
And then, come on, bro. So zone it up.
Shrink the floor.
So play like a 1-3, like a 1-2-2.
Just a fucking shrink the floor, boxing one on Luka in the front.
So what are you gonna do with Braun?
Nothing.
What do we need to do?
Like Austin Reeves.
Shrink the floor.
When the big man come up, you tell Gobert to stay down.
Stay down.
Shrink the wings, right?
We got the one on the top.
Shrink the wings.
Yes.
You take him halfway, push him off.
I got back here.
Now we looking for live press.
So that means Gobert going to guard LeBron at that time or something.
Yeah, in the area.
So LeBron either going to be spaced out or you got Gobert on LeBron.
I think they tried. Austin Ree you got Gobert on LeBron. You just seen it.
I think they tried it.
Austin Reeves had Gobert like on the island.
That was outside of the paint, though, right?
That was outside of the paint, right?
He wouldn't be there.
But he wouldn't be there.
The hanky-panky was doing the hanky-panky.
He wouldn't be there.
Had him in the hanky.
You do the hanky-panky.
So let's talk a little bit more Lakers offense.
So Lakers had 95 in game one, 94 in game two.
Have gotten outscored in five of eight quarters in this series.
I'm just telling you the information.
I average 113 points per game in the regular season, 19th in the league.
So, what do the Lakers need to do to get more production offensively good?
Nothing at all, sir.
You think they can sustain scoring in the mid-90s? I think they are needing to relax a little bit more.
I mean, you know, everyone questions their defense,
but obviously the other team is not scoring much either.
Our offense, if the ball is in Luka's hand, it's a slower pace.
Especially at the beginning of the game.
You know, as long as he's controlling it
it's going to be a slower paced game
so
you know it's
if everyone is hitting shots
if you're making him play one on one
if you're trying to play him one on one
and you're denying
Finney and
Rui and all those guys from getting
wide open shots,
then we will struggle.
We're really good if you've got to help off Luka.
If you're helping and we're getting these switches and Luka's getting inside
and you're trying to double or stop Luka from scoring
and now he gets the pass open to these wide open guys,
then that's when our offense is really potent.
We've seen Black and Miles and Shemar Moore
have some high-level production in the
regular season. It seems like they're going to
be the difference makers in those games. They can knock down
those threes. Austin Reeves can knock
down those threes.
As long as you're playing one-on-one
and you're letting Luka score, how many
assists did Luka have game one? One assist.
You're talking about a guy who's trying to pass,
but the fact that if I'm not going to leave my guy, you just go score,
kind of hurts his full game.
Yeah.
So, you know, it all depends on what Wolves' defense is.
But, you know, right now it's just keep playing this 1-1 and, you know, try
to go steal one there and make it a 2-2
coming back home. Lakers
in five. Lakers in five. Do you think the
Lakers will need to increase that offensive output?
No. Four straight?
Four straight. He said four straight. No, no matter what
the score is, it's Lakers in five.
Which is fine. Game one,
I don't give a fuck about no game one. That's like a playing game.
It's a playing game.
A field out game.
I didn't even really know that was the real game.
Saturday, like we just finished watching like Friday playing game.
Saturday was like a playing game.
So yesterday was like his real game.
So the series really 1-0.
You know what I mean?
It's just really 1-0.
Well.
Game two is Friday.
You know what I mean? Is this really 1-0? Game two is Friday. You know what I mean?
No matter how it is, it's Lakers in five.
Game seven is game five.
Game six, game five.
Game six and seven are both.
Game five, game five.
Into game five.
All right.
About to see.
Damn.
I think Giannis and Ant-Man need to play together
since they're going to be out the first round together.
We have Scott Foster in the arena.
He disagrees.
Hey, don't let her take the game five away from you.
I know she added a zero to it.
You get rid of that zero and say five.
Shannon and five.
Shannon and five.
He going to win it in five.
Funky.
Right, girl.
Right, girl.
That series is looking a little bit different.
Right, girl.
50 million, we don't give a fuck. That series is looking a little different, ladies and gentlemen.
Get that nigga down 50 right now.
He got the double, man.
You need a halftime report.
You need a scouting report.
My nigga, you is down.
He said 50.
I said 50.
Shannon said 5. you is down 50 I said shit it said 5 you down 50
you gonna have to
sub you gonna have
to trade
what you doing
how you get down this much
what you doing over there
I see the report she said she won't delay
your tickets I said boy you better fight back
you better fight back
50 million, okay You better fight back. You better get him back. I've said this before. This ain't my first role, yo. This ain't my first role, yo. This is my first time.
So ain't.
So I shook so many niggas' ass.
For 19, she said, fuck the 10 million, straight fit.
Well, who are you?
Max Dill.
Batman.
Betting on myself.
Who her friends?
I don't know.
Betting on myself.
Who her friends?
Who she talking to?
Who her daddy?
Who her lord?
19. Who your daddy? Who her lord? 19.
Who your daddy?
Nah, 19 talking like that is crazy.
At 19, you take 10 million, you take 1 million.
She, you OnlyFans.
She is OnlyFans.
She's doing that for fun, though.
Max Deal.
That's because daddy wasn't there.
Daddy wasn't there.
But let's get back to the Lakers.
She's taking my underwear.
No, she's not taking it.
Daddy.
She's not like that. Damn. Can't tell. I'm not taking the white girl as five.
I'm taking Shannon as five.
Shannon as five.
Shut the front door.
Yeah.
You think I'm going to settle for a cougar?
Never.
Back to the Lakers-Wolves series. Of course I'm on that, man. Oh, man. A good aside.
Now is the quality time.
The deep conversations.
I'm going to sleep at 7, man.
The deep combos you can come to expect on Gills Arena.
I'm 50, man.
So we talked about Luca.
Damn, all my money gone.
50 gold.
What the fuck is that?
I just had 50.
I just had 50.
God damn.
I can tell you this right now.
All re-ups after this, we do this shit in private.
We do it in private.
I don't know who recorded the crap.
As you know, we are a very poor show, a meager budget.
Hey, I see.
Hey, Vlad had a thumbnail that I said, hey, man, if you don't take that shit off the thumbnail,
chase that shit off.
A little too spicy, a little too loud in the room.
No, it was YouTube.
I seen it.
I was like, whoa, wait a minute.
Very poor show, very meager.
No reason to bother us.
We don't bother nobody.
We ain't got it.
Please donate.
We are the EBT of SportsCenter.
Hey, can we turn on our donations?
They think we read
Turn them on
I can't afford pants. You got we live very rough around here conversation with me
Yeah, we we had none of the bed getting away from the wires. We're going underwater
What you say, baby?
My ring goes
Maybe give my ring out there
Fuck the details I can start checking their pockets. Them details is crazy.
Fuck the details.
You don't supposed to be texting all that.
You don't supposed to be texting all that shit, man.
Oh, man.
Sometimes you have to keep texting yourself. Yeah, that's FaceTime shit.
You don't text all that shit.
You don't text all that.
He was going crazy.
He was going insane.
You can learn a lot.
He was going insane.
It's the rope.
The rope.
The rope sparks.
The rope sparks.
Nothing to do with it.
They probably just taking money.
Got him aggressive.
He got him real aggressive.
Shit.
Bro had nothing to do with it.
Oh, sell.
Sell.
The old ones don't know that you can't use this in them, bro.
Them niggas talk crazy.
You gotta be looking.
Throw that phone.
You probably talking to the theme before you can write for them.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I tell them I'mma choke the fuck out of them.
I'mma choke the fuck out of them.
I'mma choke the fuck out of them. I'mma choke the fuck out of them. I'mma choke the fuck out of them. I just talk crazy. You gotta be looking. You probably talk to the theme before you can write for them.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tell them I'mma choke the fuck out of them.
What is this?
Hey, man, and probably, too.
And probably.
You know that shit?
You do.
And probably, and it's in here.
And probably, too.
It didn't come out right.
It didn't come out right.
Yeah, yeah.
The chicken didn't know the chicken was on something else.
And they just bladed that shit in.
Hey, hey, tell me it's AI, all right?
Oh, it's AI.
She said, she said, that's not a good look.
I don't think I want that.
Hey, oh, it's AI.
They been mashing these shits up together.
Oh, man.
That shit is hard.
That's already here.
That's already here.
That's already here. That's already here. They talking He and Pupkin talking like, oh, my God.
I want you to choke me.
Read this.
I'm going to choke you.
In public.
No, man.
It was cut.
It was cut in place.
Imagine the headlines.
Hey, man, they got to have a job, man.
All right, back to basketball.
They got to go back to the footballs, man, for the O. Back. Nah, man. All right, back to basketball. Back to basketball.
I'm going to roast your big ass.
Sign language, sign language.
Back to basketball.
They couldn't pace up like that, man.
They ain't doing that, man.
Let's get back to basketball.
So LeBron first.
Get that whole $10.
Man.
Please, please.
All right, just sign up.
You know, hey, listen.
You know she got some private stuff on there.
Just signed up to the one-year membership.
He was tripping.
You're throwing out too much money early.
He went past the OnlyFans threshold.
You're supposed to just watch, and then you keep it moving.
You know what I'm saying?
Can you come by?
Can I fly you out?
No, he said he offered $10 million.
I was like, wait, let me negotiate for it.
Let me negotiate for it.
First of all, he's throwing out $10.
You already know it's some wild shit.
Oh, it's some wild shit.
If you're throwing out $10.
All alleged at this point, we will let the legal process play out.
It's some wild shit.
Yeah, it's some wild shit.
We was junk in five.
All that nightcap shit.
I'm going to be his lawyer. I'm going to be his lawyer. I'm going to get them all. You're going to get them all? I'm going to get them all. No, dude. We were junk in five all that night All right.
Enough.
Enough.
Enough.
Enough.
Enough.
When I was on night cast, I swear to God.
Enough.
I swear to God.
I swear to God.
Let's get back to basketball, please. Back to basketball. Enough. Enough. Let's get back to basketball, please.
Back to basketball.
Enough.
Enough.
Enough.
I did not want you to touch my shoulder.
I didn't touch it like this.
Unhand me.
Unhand me.
Unhand me.
What?
He said he was going to choke me too.
In public.
I said he was going to choke me in public.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
No, on real talk.
No real talk, dude.
No, no.
It's crazy.
Get him. It's crazy that you can just do this. That's the talk. It's crazy. Get him.
No, it's crazy that you can just do this.
That's the problem.
I'm happy.
All right, well.
The problem we're having is we're not talking about NBA playoff basketball.
No, no.
Real talk for an athlete.
You know, because she asked me.
She said, what would you have done?
I said, well, in a situation that he's in and the level he's on, you actually have to negotiate.
You have to.
It's not a, you know what I mean?
Just like, I'd rather just give you this.
Just leave me the fuck alone.
Because you see what happens.
Even if he wins and don't pay her nothing, it's already smeared.
The name is already done.
And that becomes a
problem. It's no different than LA,
the loophole with
overtime and
not giving your employees
lunch breaks and shit like that.
There's loopholes.
Do we have lunch here? No, we do not.
We have lunch, motherfucker.
You said no break. You can only for like there's loopholes do we have lunch here no we do not we have lunch motherfucker like six hours at a time there's like real things and then you can like not take your lunch break
at work for a couple weeks and then say they don't give me lunch there's like these loopholes and
you will rather and i say you'll give me a hundred thousand you're gonna pay
me because you're not gonna want to pay your lawyer take it to court to lose sixty thousand
how much it costs you overall so you know in a situation like this is when you try to strong
guard somebody you know it's just calculations at that point like all right how much is gonna
cost me for my lawyer how long is this gonna last and then you know you start getting into
just straight math.
You ain't going to pay more.
We are well-nourished here in the arena.
Lunch provided every day, sufficient break.
He going to pay more than $10 now.
Ample parking.
Little girlfriend, man.
Ample parking.
I like her, too.
Great neighbor.
Distraction, man.
That's just all a little distraction.
It's all a distraction.
If he don't get fired, it's all a distraction.
Because everybody's been fired for way less.
No, no.
Paul Pierce got fired.
Paul Pierce got fired for ASBN for having a little stripper
in the back.
That wasn't a stripper.
That was a normal girl.
There it is.
Think of that now.
Normal girl.
Normal girl, shaking ass for a little.
Man.
But he back then.
Trying to pay for college.
What I'm saying.
Trying to pay for college.
He got fired for worse.
No, no, because the girl didn't either, though.
Trying to pay for college.
But let's get back to basketball.
LeBron, first 40-year-old.
He's going to put fire out now.
LeBron.
LeBron.
He just did the thing with the phone call.
That's the real sparks.
That was, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, just the third one.
So it's like, if this don't, nothing happens.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
That was a real problem.
We need him to get that $100 million.
For sure.
We need him.
Soon as he do this, boom, boom, boom.
They didn't say ESPN was going to give him that.
Underdog.
You see this?
Underdog.
How you doing?
Shout out to Underdog.
Hey, great brand.
Let's get back to playoff basketball.
LeBron, the first 40-year-old in NBA history with 20, 10, and 5 in a playoff game.
But even as a diehard Bron stand, I can admit he hasn't looked like himself so far this postseason.
Bron averaging 20 points, 8 rebounds, 5 assists, 43% from the field, 20% from 3.
So I want to go around the couch.
So I can start with you.
How would you grade Bron through the first two games in this series?
A plus, plus, plus, plus.
A plus, plus, plus.
You know, you got to let Luka do Luka. You know, he's got to figure it out. You know,
you got to put his age into this, you know.
40 years old, you're 22.
Yeah, I'm 40 years old playing against crazy motherfuckers like Jewish Randall out there.
Shit, yeah, you know. You don't want to get hit so much. You got a guard, Naj Reed
and Drew. And you coming out victorious, you know. So, yeah, I'm going to give him an A.
I'm going to give him an A.
Let's move to this side. Shaw, how would you grade 40-year-old LeBron, Raymond James, senior. First two games
of this playoff series.
Next.
I'm going to give him an A.
Abstain from grading.
Mr. B,
you're going to give him
an A so far.
28-5.
40 years old, dog.
Man.
It's only two games.
All right.
It's first round.
40 years old,
still going at it.
At a height.
I mean,
it's an A, bro.
Distractions on and off the court.
Off the court, still holding it together.
Navigate, showing up, courtside next to Jack Black.
Everybody coming at him, yeah.
Everybody coming at his family.
Yeah.
He is his wife, and he's still out here.
Man, listen.
Hey, shoulder to the game.
Come on now.
Courtside, very expensive team.
That was trying to be, he was trying to, he was trying to.
He was trying to have that moment.
Yeah.
Moment did not come.
He does do that.
Well, let's move over to Gil.
Gil, how would you grade Bron?
First two games of this series.
I mean, compared to, you know, everyone else, yeah, it's an A.
Still getting an A.
I mean, he's 40.
That's all I'm saying.
He's taking a backseat.
He realized Luka is built for this.
It seems like he's conserving energy, you know, in his first round.
And it seems like when he needs to go, he goes.
But for the most part, it seems like he's playing a backseat.
So, you know, just understanding that this guy is special, right?
You know, sometimes you don't know how good someone is
until you have them up close.
And watching Luka up close, you realize
that he can manipulate this game
even better
than you did.
The things Luka's doing
is really different
than how LeBron did it, how Kobe did it.
He has a special gift,
so he's letting him do his thing. And when LeBron did it, how Kobe did it. He has a special gift, so he's letting him do his thing.
Right? And, you know, when
LeBron needs to turn it on, he will
because he's going to have a lot of energy to do it.
So, you know, the fact that he played 40 minutes
but it didn't look like it was 40 minutes,
you know, you got to give him A for that.
So we asked the chat,
what do you grade LeBron's playoff so far?
46% of the chat
gave him a B. 27% of the chat gave him a B.
27% of the chat gave him a C.
24% agree with you guys, gave him an A.
And 3% gave him an F.
We did not have a D as an option.
The fact that he got 40% as a B,
it just kind of lets you know the standard that everybody holds him to,
even though he's 40
and they've never seen this from a 40 year old.
And probably won't see it from a
40 year old again. Man, this level.
But it kind of lets you know like
you know if you're him and this is
even at, if they hate you
at 40, you gotta actually
smile. Because
at 40 everyone else was being praised because they were so bad. It was like, you got to actually smile. Because at 40, everyone else was
being praised because they were so
bad. It was like, your
legacy was great for us, old man.
You know what I mean?
You coming off the bench,
sorry, motherfucker. Let's go.
You're yelling for them to get in at the end
of the game. That's what 40
used to be. So the fact
that he's still being hated at 40,
if I'm him,
I'm like, I'm still
good enough for them to hate me.
And they haven't put
me in the box where
they're cheering my name.
You know what I mean?
You get one play.
Oh!
He almost made a layup.
For real. Alright, well, let's go back to a play midway through the fourth quarter.
Midway through the fourth quarter involving Jaden McDaniels and Luka.
I want to get your guys' opinion on this, so let's take a look at this play.
We have it queued up.
So, as you see, after Jaden McDaniels hit a bucket, fell to the ground,
appeared to wrap his legs around Luka, causing Luka to fall to the ground.
He had a fist ball.
Landing Slovenian Jesus crashed to the ground.
Luka very pissed off.
Both refs were very disappointed.
Starting to heat up here.
Timeout Lakers.
That they did not do anything.
So Luka didn't engage one time with Jaden McDaniels.
He ran straight to the ref.
He said, look what he do to my legs. That's crazy.
My legs.
Slovenia Gene is there.
So this is the playoff.
So was this a dirty play or just playoff basketball?
That was dirty.
No, that was dirty.
I don't care.
He tried to get him kicked out.
What?
Like, you lock somebody's leg in like that, and he, like...
He felt kind of hard, too.
Yeah, that shit went like...
Man!
Bounce off that damn floor.
A mild earthquake in the downtown...
Have you seen worse?
Huh?
Have you seen worse?
I mean, yeah, I've seen worse, but I'm just...
You seen a motherfucker step on a motherfucker's chest?
Yeah, that's different.
Yeah, but I'm saying, like...
I've seen that.
You, like, twist somebody's ankle, and then he, like... Twist. Yeah, but I'm saying like... I've seen that. You like twist somebody's ankle
and then he like...
Twist?
Yeah, you're talking about
tearing the ligament,
breaking the leg.
And the way he fell was hard.
Yeah, he fell hard
to the motherfuckers.
Tell that again?
Yeah, so, yeah.
Paolo, can we see it again,
please, sir?
He might get...
He should get fined,
but, you know,
if the league decide
they want to suspend him,
look at that.
Boom.
No place in the game for that, Gil.
Go back, play it back.
That's fine with me.
That feels like a five game suspension.
Play it back and slow it down.
Let me show you what Luka did, since y'all missed it.
Keep it going.
Keep it going.
Right there?
Keep it going. Okay, right there player slowly.
What do you do? What do you do? Block both his legs. I mean, what do you do? Damn. What did Luka do? The hip. The hip? Right in his groin.
Man, you can't even.
Rewind it, please.
Let's see this.
Go back.
Back into the left.
Remember what kind of a defender Jaden McDaniels has to be.
He's a pesky pest.
So he's pesky-ing him all game long.
This is Luka's opportunity to do some pesky shit back.
He going?
He going?
Slovenian chicane. He going back? Back. Slovenian chicane. Keep going back?
Back the other way, fellas.
Keep going back.
You say hit him with a hip.
His hip didn't even touch him.
A solid contest from Laverne.
Play.
Play, play, play, play.
Where you going?
Play.
God damn it.
Slow, slow, slow, slow.
I want to see his hip.
Foul right there. Where his hip didn't touch him. Hip right there. Foul and hip. Foul right there.
Where is his hip?
Hip right there.
Foul and hip.
His hip didn't touch him.
Yeah, he did.
No, did his hip touch him?
I didn't see his hip touch him.
So that comes through to lock somebody's leg?
Now, where is the lock?
Where is the lock and turn and all that?
Right there.
The same trip.
No, no, no.
No, listen.
He locked his leg.
No, he locked his leg.
The same trip. Right here. Look, look. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. Stop. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, If he just stays there, it's just locked. He twists on purpose. Now go a little bit.
See?
Because he twists and pulls down on it.
So Aiden is trying to get up from that.
Well, he's going there.
I'm locking you.
And I have you locked.
That's how you get up?
That's how I, no.
Which way is he turning?
Which way is he turning?
But that's to lock you.
That's to make you fall.
What's the dude from Deadset? He He said he locked my head in a turn.
In a turn, and my body was like.
My body turned with it.
My body was turned with it.
Yeah.
They locked.
You see, he got up.
He got up in a Phil Nelson.
You see, he got up.
He got me in a Phil Nelson.
I couldn't move.
I had to turn my body just to get up.
Nigga moved his body to the side.
They tried to hurt him right there, dog.
Hell no.
Was he hurt?
Yeah.
Did he get up?
Look at him.
Did he get up?
Look at his arm.
What's so funny is it's supposed to be a fine, just a regular little fine,
but it'd be funny.
They might try to suspend him.
Five games to keep him out.
They should.
Send a message to the league.
They're about to kick Luka out for that.
No place in the game.
Luka was damn near about to get a take for that.
For standing up for himself.
Yeah.
It should be like a little fine, a little technical.
If he get kicked out, that's a lot.
I don't know.
Julius Randle's little hit was worse than that.
Game two, Lakers.
Game three.
Game three.
Mind the game.
No, game two.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Game one was the playing game. Okay, it was the fill-out, game two. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Game one was a playing game.
Okay, it was a feel-out playing game.
A little feel-out, a little play-out.
But we asked to chat, Jaden McDaniel's leg lock was dirty play or playoff basketball.
79% say dirty play.
But let's keep this thing moving.
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All right, well, let's shift over to the Eastern Conference.
Celtics cruise to an easy win in Game 1 of their series against the Magic.
Derek White leading the way with 30 points while knocking down seven of his 12 three-point attempts. Sixth man of the year,
Peyton Pritchard was Boston's second leading scorer with 19 points off the bench. On the Magic
side, Paolo Bancaro was a bright spot, 36 points, 11 rebounds, 42 minutes of action. Boston's dynamic
duo of Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum both had off-shooting nights. Brown finishing with 16 points. He was 6 of 14, 30 minutes.
And Tatum, 17 points on 8 of 22 shooting.
One for eight from three in 40 minutes of work.
But let's go back to a moment in the fourth quarter.
They had the Celtics holding their breath.
If we can, please, let's take a look at this.
A little over eight minutes remaining.
Celtics up 16.
Tatum drove to the basket.
Got the hard foul from KCP.
Landed awkwardly on his right wrist,
which is on his shooting hand.
Tatum stayed on the ground in pain.
That's not one hand.
That's not one hand.
Stayed on the ground.
That's a two-handed.
Celtics head coach Joe Mazzulla could be seen on the sideline telling the trainer to stay back
and yelling at Tatum to get up.
Oh, he just, yeah, when he came down.
Yeah.
Plus that going up on one leg, that balance.
So Tatum stayed in the game, missed both free throws in the immediate aftermath to the injury,
but did knock down a three later in the game. Tatum diagnosed with
a bone bruise in his right
wrist listed as doubtful
for game two tonight. Celtics
are 8-2 without Tatum this season
but both losses were to the
magic. So how concerned should the Celtics
be with Tatum's wrist injury?
Man,
they need that man out there.
I'm sorry. I need him.
They're playing against the Miami Heat.
They're playing against the Miami Heat.
I mean, Orlando Magic.
Same day.
Nah, nah, it's different.
It's different.
It's different.
Just because they ain't got nobody really at that position that can guard without Tatum.
Who's going to guard Pablo?
He's 60. Pablo P. Carroll. Man. But who's going to guard Pablo? He's 60. Pablo Pete Carroll.
Man.
But who's going to guard?
For this series, man, he's fine.
They fine.
Wenger, what is his name?
Wenger?
Franz Wagner.
Wanky Wanky.
Yeah, I mean, I think they fine.
I think Boston got so much talent, though, man.
Derek White.
Derek White was the work last game.
Porzingis.
You know, Porzingis.
You got Jalen Brown.
I mean, I think the Boston has enough talent to get past them
without Tatum in this series.
I mean, I got Boston in five.
I think you play and sweep, and then you can win, you know.
Get that little quick sweep.
Wait for who they got to play next?
Indiana. No, no. Nick's missing. Oh, see, that's going to go probably seven. wait for who they got to play next? Indiana?
No, Nick's missing.
Oh, see, that's going to go part seven.
So, you have time.
Yeah, I was going to say they got time.
Wrist injury to shooting hand, bone bruise,
listed as day-to-day doubt for a life-saving game.
Cleveland and Indiana are going to play right away
because both teams are going to sweep.
Who?
Indiana.
Indiana ain't sweeping
Milwaukee.
What you talking about?
Cleveland gonna sweep
and then Indiana
gonna play.
They probably play
one extra game.
NBA loses a lot of money
on sweeps.
Well, shit.
Teams lose a lot of money
on sweeps.
They, you know what I mean?
If it was up to
the magical place up here,
every round would be
game seven.
Well, thank you.
Game seven every day.
Game seven.
Sometimes you just can't help it.
I know.
Sometimes you can't help it.
But if I can't help it, God damn it, which I should be able to help it on this 3-6 or
this 5-4 matchup.
You should be able to help it on the Bucs and Indiana.
5-4.
It ain't going to happen.
There ain't going to be no sweep.
If they lose this game, it's over. How many? It ain't going to be. ain't gonna be no sweep. If they lose this game, it's over.
How many...
Last time we seen a sweep.
It was Indiana Bucks.
That OKC gonna be a sweep.
Well, it was a gentlemen's sweep, wasn't it?
Last year? Bucks-Indiana?
The last time we seen a real sweep, though.
Yeah, I don't remember no sweep.
We should just go on to the next topic.
So we talked, KC... I don't remember no sweep. You don't remember that? We should just go on to the next topic. So we talked, Casey
talked about... You don't remember those
sweeps. Don't remember. You don't remember
when I brought that broom?
Uh-huh. You don't remember when I brought that broom?
I don't remember. We don't even own it.
Y'all don't remember y'all just playing.
You don't remember. I just told you.
We're going to the next topic.
So, KCP. What's the next topic?
KCP did what? I'm trying to figure out. I'm trying to think? KCP did what?
I'm trying to figure out.
I'm trying to think.
KCP did what?
Chat GBT.
Let me ask you something.
Let me ask you something.
KCP asked about the foul.
Hey, chat GBT, can you tell me who the last team that got swept 4-0 in the NBA?
The flagrant.
So KCP was asked about the flagrant foul.
Said a hard foul is a hard foul.
Really don't care what anybody says.
I'm still going to play how I play,
how I'm supposed to play.
Okay, but after game one,
as Tatum was heading to the Celtics locker room,
his mom was waiting in the tunnel and was ready to ride for her son.
Yeah.
She said, do you want me to go to the Orlando locker room?
That's right.
It appears she was joking, but in all seriousness,
in your guys' opinion, it was a foul upgraded to a flagrant one.
We heard what KCP said, a hard foul is a hard foul.
Was that a dirty play by KCP or just playoff basketball?
I think just playoff basketball.
I don't think KCP's a dirty player.
I've never seen him do anything.
He's a professional.
He play hard.
I think it's just a
hard foul. Just the wrong angle, too.
We know what dirty plays look like.
There's dirty plays.
There's hard fouls. And then there's
just motherfuckers just clumsy.
Yeah.
He tried to take
my mans out. Who?
KCP. Right here?
Yeah, yo. Trying to block this shot.
No, KCP didn't jump high enough.
Yeah, yeah.
I just can't get that up.
I can't get that up.
Why are you even jumping?
You're going down.
I'm a defender.
Fuck that.
You're going to make a play.
Why are you mad?
Because he's old.
Trying to take my man out.
That's the only way you can win a game.
And as a reminder, he jumped and just.
He jumped this high and touch this
I know he thought he could get higher and he found out he should have just no easy buckets though, right?
That's what we were always taught as basketball players
I mean obviously Tatum come with a lot of momentum to the basket. That's just you are going to create a league
That was dirty. That's the same thing. Oh, you didn't play
In 2013.
Bubba was 5'5", man.
That was last week.
He had 14, 15 points.
I had to slow him down.
Same thing I'm going to do to you Friday.
The Los Angeles Lakers got swept by him.
Dirty play.
This is 2025.
4-2-0.
This is 2025.
2025.
So, we asked the chat,
do the Celtics need to worry about Tatum's injury?
51% said yes.
49% said no.
Also asked the chat if that was a dirty play or playoff hoops.
80% of the chat says playoff hoops.
Oh, that's good.
Like I said, Missoula during the game
instructed the trainer not to go out and check on Tatum.
Screamed, get up at him.
In a very demotic way. Now he's going to miss game three.
I'm not lying.
Trying to exude a level of toughness with this.
I think Boston's going to be fine.
They got too many players that can step up.
Eric White can go for 30.
Easy four.
Ben Pritchard.
Can go for 30.
That's what I'm saying.
Jay Brown can go for 30.
Speaking of Peyton Pritchard, Pritchard was rewarded for his career season by winning
sixth man of the year.
He won it.
Average career highs with 14 points, four assists, 28 minutes per game while shooting
47% from the field.
P. Rabbit also set an NBA record with 246 threes and led all reserves with 1,079 points
in 23 20-point games. So those 246
threes the most coming off the bench.
By a player coming off the bench.
The NBA history. He's going crazy.
Also had a career-high 43
on his hometown Blazers
back in March in the game of Boston.
Listen, this Boston team is so good that
they can run off. Is he under contract?
Yeah, he's under contract.
They have like two different MVPs. They got him locked up for a little bit.
Three or four different ones.
So Pritchard under contract through the 27-28 season.
What year?
14 and 4-6.
I remember seeing something with him where he used to pay people.
Yeah.
We talked about it on the show.
In the offseason, his workout routine,
he plays a bunch of High level players
Pros overseas
To come and just try to
Play defense on him
Yeah try to lock him up
Just play one on one
Yep
They just there to play defense though
But that's
Working on his offense
That's great
Spider
I mean that's
That's quality hoop
In the summertime
Yeah on a four year
30 million dollar deal
Through the 2028 season
No player
I'll give you
Shout out to Rabbit You know what for your $30 million deal through the 2028 season. No player option.
Shout out to Rabbit.
You know what?
Also had some smoke for you earlier in the season.
Yeah.
For you?
It was for you,
but you were talking about
the other Caucasian
on the court window.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I wasn't talking about that.
You were not talking about that.
Number 11.
You know, at first,
I didn't believe when he had,
didn't he have like 100 points in like Jamal Crawford lead or something like that?
He did shit every lead.
And I didn't believe it, but now I'm sorry.
A legend in the Pacific Northwest.
I heard he went to Toronto the same day.
Yeah, we see it.
Yeah, I see it.
Okay, I'm backtracking.
Yeah, I see it.
Drew Baller.
Shout out to Peyton Pritchard.
So there was another playoff game last night.
So after the Thunder blew out the Grizzlies by 51 points in game one,
Ja Morant vowed that the team would not play that bad again.
Technically, Ja was correct.
Technically.
But the Thunder whooped that trick again in game two.
Let's take a look at the highlights.
So OKC jumped out.
15-point lead in the first quarter.
Ja went 0 for 6 from the field in the first period of game action.
Thunder extended that lead to 18 at the half.
Makes a play like this.
Doing their thing.
SGA led the Thunder in scoring.
27 points, but was 10 of 29 from the field. Did have eight rebounds, five assists.
Jalen Williams added 24, 6-5 on 10-19 shooting.
Chet Holmgren, also known as Chet Hologram here in the arena.
20 points, 11 boards, and five blocks in the game.
So Ja bounced back from the bad first quarter to finish with 23 and six assists.
It was 10 of 25 from the field.
Jaron Jackson Jr. led the Grizzlies with 26 points, also had six rebounds.
Desmond Bain had 19 and 12 boards.
So the Grizzlies tried to make a run in the second half,
cutting the deficit to as low as eight points.
But then OKC stopped playing with their food, went to work in the fourth quarter.
You get the
19-point win in the game.
So the
Thunders, 35-point average
margin of victory in the first two
games, the second highest in NBA
playoff history. Basically
plus 70 right now, point differential to the first
two games. So we'll go around
the couch, keep this quick.
What percent chance do you give the Grizzlies to win one game,
just one game in this series?
Mr. B, we'll start with you.
They're going back to Memphis.
I mean, shit, they got their ass beat twice.
I mean, I think they can get one.
What percent chance do you think that they have of getting that one game?
50% chance.
Okay, 50.
So 50-50 chance of winning.
I game.
I game, yeah.
Gentlemen sweep.
First round series.
Down 0-2 now.
Heading back to Memphis for game three.
Shad, when you look at this Memphis squad.
Cooked. Just a few years removed from Josh When you look at this Memphis squad. Cooked.
Just a few years removed from Josh saying he was fine in the West.
Cooked.
It looks way worse than it did two days ago.
I think you could chalk up that 50, you know, that 50 loss and be like,
yeah, that was just one of them games and play bad and all that.
It'll never happen again.
But the way that they play, they have no leadership.
They have no maturity.
They have, I don't even see accountability
because I see a lot of jogging around.
I see a lot of shit that will make Taylor Jenkins fucking irate.
Currently unemployed.
And when you don't have that as a team and you're looking at your best player to kind of hold everybody accountable, step up to the moment.
John not ready for that.
He's not ready for that moment.
You could tell.
He was laughing and smiling and shit during the 50-point loss.
Going into the playoffs, You're thinking about what celebration
you want to do in the crowd and shit
instead of really honing in on what
strategy is going to work against the next opponent.
Like our priorities
are all fucked up now with this generation
because social media got everybody thinking
the swag and the drip is more important
than the roll and the pick.
That's weird.
So you think they're just happy to be here?
Yes. Again.
I think
Ja got distracted. I think he
started off playing winning basketball.
Beginning of the season? Not this year,
but when he first started playing with Memphis
like the first couple years and after
everything he'd been through,
I feel like it distracted him a little bit.
But I think he could bounce back next year.
I think he needs to go through this year, ups and downs,
and just go through a full year really just playing basketball.
But Memphis just ain't got a good team like that.
They ain't got the team to compete.
They out there getting punked, bullied.
You got to get a mid-range. Yeah, you got to.
Everything is floaters to the basket. If you can get a mid-range this summer.
Like a little Brunson mid-range.
Yeah, that could add to so much of him just floating the ball up, trying to get to
the lane every time. Just that, you know, that because he's so athletic. I think that would just
get a lot of defenders off balance.
Facts.
Yeah.
They let that Brooks and LeBron shit get to them.
They traded a good piece they needed.
Facts. You know?
Where's Marcus Smart at?
He's in a wizard uniform.
I did not know that.
I didn't know that either.
They traded him.
I don't know why.
For what? What did they get back? Don't know that either. They traded him. I don't know why. For what?
What did they get back?
Don't look like nothing.
Hard out here.
What did they say you need to trade Marcus Marford for?
A pick?
Marvin Bagley.
Marvin Bagley.
Marvin Bagley and Johnny Davis, 20, 25-second round pick.
That's a good trade.
That's a good trade.
They didn't need another pick. Man, that's a good trade. That's a good trade.
They didn't need another guard.
Yeah, but Marcus Mark is going to play the three, too.
Cook, 6-3 at the three.
No way.
Swag, what percent chance do you give the Grizzlies to win?
Oh, negative 50%. You got 50% that they will?
I said negative.
Negative 50%.
So they will actually owe a game.
Yeah.
I think
they might just get one. Just end it in three?
I mean, I'm out.
Out of here. Out of here.
Out of here. 0.12%.
0.12.
The 0.12 is for
Ja. Go to Memphis, just get them out of here.
Yeah, one of them games. He can probably have one of those
games. That's what I'm just thinking.
But how the team is playing as a whole.
Yeah.
SGA not having that shit.
You can't have that shit.
Right.
He's conscious.
They need Edie.
He can't have it all.
Let y'all win it.
They're not giving him the ball.
They're not giving Edie the ball at all.
They need Edie to...
Like, he is a...
I mean, it hasn't translated to NBA,
but when you're doing pick and rolls and he's rolling,
you've got to sacrifice some of your scoring for the threat of him.
Yes.
Right?
Once they realize that you're giving him the ball,
now when you come down to do your moves,
they actually have to respect it.
Right now they know 1,000%.
You're not giving him the ball.
So there's nothing like when you come up and pick a roll,
I'm just focusing on you.
I'm not going to worry about the dump in or do this.
You're just going to come off.
Like, you're not passing to this dude.
So they're going to have to throw him something.
Like him taking three shots.
Crazy.
I mean, because I saw, like, pick and rolls with him
where they could just throw the ball.
You got to throw it.
You got to do it.
Even traditional seven-foot beer.
You got three little guards.
Those three little guards.
One of y'all need to be passing him the ball when y'all do the pick and roll and throw it down.
Well, the thing is, can they make the pass?
Well, look, we got to put them in situations where we know the weak side rotation, when he rolls, is going to be two point guards.
Throw it up. Literally. Throw it up. Wait, throw it up. when he rolls is going to be two point guards. Throw it up.
Literally. Wait. Throw it up.
But he rolls so well. I love the way
he plays because he doesn't try to
force the pick. He'll just
stand there and let you use the pick.
Then he rolls. He gets the fuck out of there.
And usually, he's so big
he just, they holding him up, right?
So they got to hold him up so he's standing up.
He need to get lower so he can get his position.
But just throwing him off a ball.
He's Sean Bradley out there.
He ain't got to do shit.
They're not giving him nothing.
Easy.
It's an easy six points, eight points.
Just throwing it up to him.
Throw it up to him.
They're going to foul him, too.
He can shoot free throws.
Yeah, they have no chance of really winning.
I don't see them winning a game.
It is going to hurt because even though they lost by
19, it's still an
ass whooping.
They're getting their
ass whooped here.
This looked worse than the 50.
The 50, you're just like,
but here's like
offensive
rebound. They're just beating you across the
board.
I think they have like 18 offensive rebounds and some shit like that. Get to the windmill. Offensive rebound, they're just beating you across the board. We want it more.
I think they have like 18 offensive rebounds and some shit like that.
Jai, out the way on that fast break.
Off you, man.
Like, it's just like this looks like a one verse eight.
Facts.
You just be like, yeah, this is.
From the beginning to the end, it's just so ass-whooping.
Thunder, 16 offensive rebounds. Jai tried to get on the bus. And the motherfucker said, see, it's just so ass-whooping. Thunder, 16 offensive rebounds.
Jai tried to get on the bus.
And the motherfucker said, seat's taking.
Seat's taking.
Can't sit here.
Can't sit here.
Can't sit here.
Can't sit here.
Can't sit here.
Seat's taking.
You can sit here, Forrest.
Come on, Jai.
Come on over here. Very nice here, Boris. Come on, Ja. Come on over here.
Very nice shoes, though.
Nah, his shoes is crazy.
Fucking crazy.
Yeah, them Ja 3s is fire.
That's a distraction.
We need the Ja 1s back.
Yeah.
Bring back the Ja 1s.
The Ja 1s with the diamonds?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The diamond.
Mm-hmm.
So, Grizzlies cooked.
Okay, let's keep it moving.
Sure.
There was a lot of talk this season about viewership decline.
Gil, you called caps that the viewership was there,
just not by traditional standards.
Mm-hmm.
Well, according to the league,
2025 NBA playoffs delivered its most watched opening weekend in 25 years,
averaging 4.4 million viewers per game,
which is up 17% compared to last year.
That is just traditional linear TV metrics, Gil.
No, it's not linear TV metrics.
It's YouTube metrics.
It's social media metrics.
Say 4.4 million viewers.
Average.
What does average mean?
How can you watch one game and say average?
It's all the games from the opening week.
Every 15 minutes, it clocks it the average of
consumers watching at that time is 4.4 million across the board so there's about 27 clocks on
a game average they don't show you the total like you know like at the end of our show there's a
total they don't give us a total to see how many total so people believe that that this game, only 4.6 people,
only 4.6 million people actually watch the game.
That's not actually the case.
Well, according to the league,
most watched game was Magic Celtics
on ABC on Eastern,
which drew 6.69 million viewers.
Magic Celtics?
Average?
It just says drew 6.69 million viewers.
That was average total.
Magic Celtics?
Yeah.
Magic Celtics.
So was the talk about declining NBA TV ratings overhyped
based on this information.
Most watched opening weekend, 25 years, up 17% compared to...
Like, I watched CBS, and CBS was like,
you think we're going to spend this kind of money
if we thought the views was down?
He said, when we had it back in the early 2000s, we gave you the total.
So the total, 19 million people watched it.
He said, that's why he told me to look at it.
He said, that's why it says average.
So if you look at some one game and it says average,
he said, you clock it every 15 minutes.
So the reports scan how many people's watching,
and then they give you average.
So they have like peak.
It peaked at 2.9.
But the average 2.2.
Just like our show.
Our average and our peak is two different things.
But we have a total at the end.
We never see what the total is on NBA basketball.
We do see it though on Gills Arena.
It is very very very high compared to it's basically basically
some of these shows like uh was it
shacks them show inside the inside the nba they you could sue for misinterpretation of
what the numbers are,
right, if I don't want,
like let's say your show is getting,
you know, 20 million total views,
and you're going to be asking for a pay,
I'm going to say, well, technically,
you're only getting, you know, 2.2 average.
So I'm making it look like your numbers is down
because I want to pay you to what I'm telling you.
So basically next year when CBS gets it,
it's going to be the highest ratings ever
because they're going to tell you.
NBC.
They're going to tell you the numbers
they want you to tell you.
So watch what happens next year.
Peacock.
Amazon also in the mix.
Smart brother.
No, I mean, it's not me.
I just got the information.
I didn't want to say you're a smart brother.
It's not me.
I just asked you. Bitch, I said you're a smart brother. It ain't me. God damn. It ain't me. They just, I just got the information. I was going to say, you're a smart brother. It's not me. I just asked a question.
Bitch, I said you're a smart brother.
It ain't me.
God damn.
It ain't me being smart.
It's just asking a question.
It ain't had nothing to do with me.
Well, you asked a question.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, I just asked a question.
You asked a question.
God damn, just accept what I'm saying.
I mean, I'll give you a couple.
You said it all the time.
Fuck.
So most watched opening weekend in 25 years.
Up 17% compared to last year. Even people watched the Cleveland game?
That's crazy.
There was one.
Two people in the arena currently who may or may not have watched the game.
Was it a good game?
No, I'm just kidding.
Shout out to Ty Jerome.
Did his thing.
Ain't nobody watching that Cleveland series.
Just like the Super Bowl.
Just like the Super Bowl.
Stop putting the Bucs and the Cavs on NBA TV, man.
Yeah, I ain't going to point you.
That's fucked up.
They be putting the Cavs and the Bucs on NBA TV.
I don't know.
Y'all can watch 30 minutes of this and turn it into TNT.
Or hey, we can go put it right in the middle of these two games.
That's just another series.
Who going to watch Cavs versus Indiana?
You mean Cavs versus Bucs?
Like I said, like.
How many people in the United States?
What is that total now?
Hold on.
365 million people?
Something like that.
Is that what?
4.4 million per game average, according to...
The last 25 years...
The last Census Bureau, 340...
Census Bureau.
340.1 million.
So now you're about to say exactly why.
The last 25 years
has the population
of the planet grown?
Mm-hmm.
Social media grown?
Mm-hmm.
So the numbers have grown.
So the numbers now are not based on the actual numbers
it's the potential
of the population.
Got 360 something million people your potential of now where the population. You got 360-something million people,
your potential of now where the population is
and where it should reach,
based on projection,
we're very low.
Because 25 years ago,
we didn't have this many people watching.
So 25 years ago, I think the total U.S. population
was 282.
So we got more people.
We got access to more shit to watch shit.
On different platforms.
And our numbers are at this.
So in today's society, we would say, yeah, we're booming.
But in comparison to the total projection and potential,
we're definitely down in viewership.
No, we are.
Cap.
Cap.
Definitely.
It's a cap.
You think they're going to spend
how many billions
if the actual numbers that you are getting
is actually real?
Yep, because this advertising dollar
spend trillions of dollars
and then the motherfuckers don't even buy shit.
Trillions of dollars of advertising dollars
for a $5 million ad spot on Super Bowl.
Nobody buys shit from that. I spent
that money on an ad.
That's money
just being spent. So yes, they will
spend money for nothing.
I do buy Manscaped.
I do buy you.
Was there
smart TVs or smartphones
back then?
No, so how can someone track that I'm watching it on my phone?
I'll tell you.
Tell me.
There's an access point.
When you enter the access point, you're tracked.
By who?
On YouTube?
By the computer.
Whatever tracking, as I've been in television, you have tracking access.
So when you have the traffic that's moving in, just like a sensor, beep, beep, beep.
They weren't back then tracking how long you were watching.
Because they couldn't have.
Because it's cable boxes. It's how many cable boxes were in households.
That's how we was measuring,
trying to figure out the metrics.
How many boxes in a household
and how many people could potentially
be watching this show at this time?
That was the potential number.
Now they have better metrics,
better technology to say,
this person was watching for 15 minutes,
this person was watching this,
this person was watching this.
But we have way more people now. So why are the numbers low? It should This person was watching this. This person was watching this. But we have way more people now. So why
are the numbers low? It should be more people watching
this. We have 360 million
people in the United States. Well, a lot of them are watching
illegally too, though. Of course.
Now, see, that's the goal. It's called
apps. It's called the goalposts.
Because legally and then
watching it on all the available apps
is not illegal. It's an app.
You can go to the app and pay and watch.
But the numbers are still low.
Because the TV cable is only tracking what they're getting.
They're not tracking YouTube.
They're not tracking illegal.
They're not tracking overseas.
So, yes, the numbers inica on regular cable tv is down compared
to before because there's 400 other access points that they don't track but when when i'm talking
about paying something i'm tracking all of it because i want to see the the whole footprint
so when winby play and a million people watched it here,
they're not giving us the numbers from his country.
They're telling you the amount of people
who should have been watching.
It's not should have been, it's what they...
No, the accesses should have been.
You got a million people that were watching.
The access to people who should have been watching
was 20 million.
I don't even know what he's talking about.
But only a million people were watching.
Why? That means viewership
is down. I don't even know what you're
arguing at this point.
Do you even know how to even... It should be
higher. People don't want to see
it.
But don't you have other answers?
People don't want to see it.
That's why they...
People don't want to see the product.
They have reasons for not wanting to see it. That's why they say people don't want to see the product. They have reasons for not wanting to see it.
We've been talking for the last six months about why the product looks bad.
I know.
Per TV, how many people are counted per TV in the United States of America for access?
Because they can't tell if you're watching it.
So how many?
How many people?
This TV right there.
How many people is watching this TV if the game is on?
Because they can't tell how many people is actually watching it,
so they have to go off of the credit.
They have to go off of probability.
So how many, what is the probability?
Average people in a household.
Three.
That's the number.
Okay, so every TV you have in your household is counted for three people watching.
Three people watching.
And then you go from three to five, three to seven.
Then you extend the number.
If you don't like the three numbers, extend it.
So basically, for this household, almost 100 people are watching the game.
Why would 100 people be in my household?
That's not realistic.
Because it goes off of TV.
You're talking about household.
It's not 100 people in my house.
The household is the TV. They go off of TV, man. There's not 100 people in my house. The household is the TV.
They go off of TV, man.
But 100 people are not in my house, bro.
I've got seven people in my house.
Only seven people are watching it.
How do you know if there's people?
What if I'm at a bar and the TV's over there?
It goes off of TV.
So if you have a bar that has 300 people in there,
but you've got seven TVs, only 21 people is counted.
It's an average.
We're talking about households. Even if you got seven TVs. Only 21 people is counted. It's an average. We're talking about
households. Even if you had multiple
TVs, you're still adding
the TVs per house. Seven people.
Seven people. Seven TVs.
Seven, seven, seven, seven.
Three. Where are you getting seven from?
It's per household, per TV.
It's per TV. Three people.
It's not per household. It's per TV.
An average of TVs have went up.
That's why in the Super Bowl, they can say, oh, 50 million people.
But if you ask the runners there, that many people didn't watch the actual Super Bowl,
nor did they watch the West End Show.
It's all inflated numbers.
You can't actually track it.
It's not real.
I've had these real conversations.
If it's not real, then the viewership is down.
And Nielsen, Ray, I think you have to have a certain box.
If the numbers are not real, that means that it's worse than it is.
I mean, then it's worse if it's not real.
I've actually had these conversations with these people, so I got a better sense of how it actually works.
So why is it not in the public that it's working the way you've had conversations?
Why are we not reading blogs and publications talking about the real
numbers? Why are the numbers being added?
As a businessman, Dan,
if you're NBC, would you be paying
how many billions?
Would you have to pay $70 billion
for these numbers to be added?
Split between the networks, 11 years, 70 years.
We're going to go off of what you've been saying.
Would you pay, if you're NBC, that kind of money
for these terrible numbers? Where are the real numbers?
Where are the real numbers? I'm just asking you a question.
I just asked a question. Would you pay
70... Where are the real numbers so I can answer the question?
Would you pay... The numbers you've been getting.
No, those are not the real numbers. I've been getting
those are probable numbers. I said potential.
Projections. Okay, would you pay
$70 billion for probable? I need to know what
the real numbers are. Okay.
Right? Just like you said. So if y'all
got the real numbers, why they not out here?
If you got the real conversation and all
the shit that's the answers, why they haven't
they sent it to ESPN and say
these are the real numbers.
Report 11 year 76 billion dollar
deal between the networks. Now would you pay it
if the numbers is down? You just
bought it. Where is, where are
the numbers? I'm asking for the numbers i'm asking for potential
i'm asking for potential the potential is has been going down i know where the i know where
viewership should be how many people should be watching i'm paying that's an investment i'm
paying for the potential i know the numbers aren't here we gotta work to get them there
we're down right now yeah so in the last 10 years, it's been
going down. Why would you need this kind
of money? There's no market for it, and I know
when it goes up, I'm going to pocket.
No. This is a wide open market.
Why wouldn't I do this?
It's a perfect investment. You're going to pay
three times as much, and
the number's been going down for the last 20 years.
And all I got to do is make the numbers go up for my
pockets to go shoot triple?
What are you talking about?
Or maybe you're just not getting the real numbers and they're paying for what they're getting.
They're paying for the social media stuff.
They're paying for this.
Like, we can all talk about football and say football is doing great because football know how to use their numbers.
They know how to get their numbers off. But when you talk about the social media landscape
where everything is digital now,
who is the
big dog in reality?
Are you saying the football players?
Are you saying they're more popular
than the NBA players?
Did they announce that the football numbers are down?
The biggest two...
Did they announce football numbers are down?
No, they said they're up.
They didn't.
But somehow we're more visible. They didn't. They said they're up.
But somehow we're more visible.
We don't wear helmets.
And we don't have two contracts.
NFL regular season viewership for 2024 saw a slight decrease.
Everything.
But 17.5 million viewers per game.
2.2% drop.
17 what?
17 million.
In comparison to who?
They're showing their what?
In comparison to who? Six? Would their what? In comparison to who?
Six?
Would you say four?
But that was just the opening weekend of the NBA.
Can you give us those same numbers?
It was 4.4 million, I think, per game.
17 million and exactly what?
What are they telling you?
Is that the average or is that the total?
What is the NBA not telling us?
They're giving us the average.
They're not giving us the total, sir.
That's what I've been saying.
The biggest two NFL stories
this year, what were they?
Kendrick Lamar.
Kendrick Lamar
performing at the Super Bowl.
And what was before that?
Beyonce at Christmas.
So y'all gonna lie like that.
Can you give us a better story? Lamar Jackson. Beyonce at Christmas. For Christmas. So y'all going to lie like that. Taylor Swift also.
You give us a better story.
Lamar Jackson.
Josh Allen.
What about it?
Patrick Mahomes.
That was the biggest story?
Yes.
Who won MVP?
Josh Allen.
All right.
That's not a big story.
Who was supposed to win MVP?
I said the biggest story.
Who was supposed to win MVP?
I said the biggest story.
All right.
You lost the Super Bowl.
I said the biggest story. You lost the Super Bowl. I said the biggest stories.
You lost the Super Bowl.
Patrick Mahomes.
Patrick Mahomes.
How many did he win in a row?
Three, right?
No, that's your story.
I'm talking about worldwide.
There's a lot of stories out there, bro.
I said the biggest stories.
What was the biggest story?
The biggest stories was Beyonce playing at the halftime of Christmas.
Do we know who played that day?
Did we see any highlights of the game?
No, we didn't.
I'm a football fan, so I understand.
Okay, so...
Yo, don't do that.
It was.
Watch the game.
He's trying to cook.
You can't...
You can't try to eat while he's cooking.
I'm talking about...
And then the biggest social media stuff was, was it Drake not getting,
or Lil Wayne not getting the Super Bowl bid.
That was the Super Bowl run this year.
Man, that's just y'all scrolling the timeline, seeing what's hot.
Y'all not watching in real time what's going on.
That's just seeing who clicking, who liked this shit the most, who said this, what's
the sound bite, what's the headline.
That shit wasn't the hot shit.
Football was football.
We weren't talking about nothing else.
We watched football.
We were sitting right here.
That had nothing to do with football.
That was music.
That was a six-month beef.
The biggest football stories that have nothing
to do with football. You said it correctly.
The reason football Super Bowl is
so big because they get bigger stars. The reason football Super Bowl is so big
because they get bigger stars
that overtakes the Super Bowl.
When we talk about the Super Bowl itself,
the icons of the Super Bowl
is the person who's performing.
Usually the Super Bowl performance
out actually weighs Super Bowl.
Michael Jackson.
Michael Jackson, Beyonce, the titty falling out. Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson, Beyonce,
the titty falling out with Janet Jackson.
You can't remember the game
itself. I don't remember playing that.
If we asked you who played that game,
you would not fucking remember.
You remember the titty came out.
I don't.
Of course not.
When Patrick Mahomes won the Super Bowl.
What was the biggest, What was the biggest?
24 hours later.
What is Sunday known for?
Football.
Isn't Sunday supposed to be church?
It is.
Guess what?
It ain't no more.
Well.
Guess what it hasn't been?
Guess what it hasn't been for quite some time?
Sunday belongs to a sport.
I don't give a fuck if it's Super Bowl Sunday,
primetime Sunday,
sexy Sunday,
everybody tuning in on Sunday
for 16 straight
weeks.
My favorite team is playing.
Super Bowl has a lot
of value, bro. Yeah.
A lot of value. You said it has a lot of value?
A lot of value. Okay, so who's
the biggest star at the Super Bowl this year?
Patrick Mahomes.
Nah, it was the running back.
It was the kitchen.
Nobody even talked
about Jalen Hurts.
Nobody talked about that in the last
48 minutes. What atmosphere are you
in where people are talking?
Are you in the atmosphere where
you're with a bunch of black people talking
about nigga shit?
Or are you talking about football with football
fans? Where we're talking about
football. We're talking
about Josh Allen, Lamar
Jackson. We're talking about who
played Shaquan Barkley.
How he ain't win nothing.
We're talking about football.
We're talking about
That's not football. That's not about football. See, that's what you're talking about.
What?
Too tricky.
Did you watch football?
That's not the draw.
Did you watch football?
Yeah, I watched it.
But, dude, see, he's talking about football.
I'm talking about world, which means as people who do not just watch football and you're watching the world of it,
what is the topics of it?
See, if you're just watching your football,
then you think football was popping. If you're watching the world, then you wouldn't know what topics the world was talking about. The world itself, 48, 72 hours after the Super Bowl,
there was only one person being called out. There was only one topic running through social media.
That was Kendrick Lamar the whole time.
This whole football
thing, Kendrick Lamar,
Drake. Nobody talked about
either Patrick Mahomes losing as
a global topic, and
nobody talked about Jalen Hurts winning his
Super Bowl as a global topic.
Maybe in your hood, when he was watching football,
maybe that was it.
Pat McAfee has a TV show.
All right?
A lot of niggas tune in to Pat McAfee.
Guess what they was doing for those two days, three days after.
Pat McAfee, the football show.
They was talking about football.
Football show talking about football.
If you tune in, you're going to hear football shit.
If you don't watch football shit, guess what you're tuning into?
Non-football shit.
You're not going to hear it.
That's why everybody was talking about other shit, because you ain't into football.
That's what I'm saying.
I'm saying if you're not a football player, what is coming into your brain?
I'm trying to tell you, world, the number one top 50 million. You keep saying
football shows. I'm talking about
we're a basketball show. Did we talk
about the football or did we talk about
the rap?
And we're not a rap show. Which
topic did we touch in a
Super Bowl? Did we talk about
the Super Bowl performance
as a sports show?
Did we talk about the sport or did we talk about the topic?
You asked the topic creator because he should have been talking about it.
What did we talk about?
They not like us.
They not like us.
That was you, right?
That was him.
That was you, right?
That was him.
On a sports show, football is sports, right?
As a sports show, we talk sports, but what did we talk?
Ask him.
He puts the shit on the table.
Hey, hey, hey.
Hey, so does, so does Shannon Sharp.
You know how big it is when a casual fan talks about it, not the direct fan.
Does Shannon Sharp and Ocho Single, do they talk about football on their show?
Yeah, they talk about football all the time. More than everything else? No. Or do they talk about football on their show? Yeah, they talk about football all the time.
More than everything else?
No.
Or do they talk about football more?
They talk about football when they talk about, when it's a topic.
When the topic guy says, this is what we talk about tonight.
The host of the topic guy says.
More than what we're talking about.
Executive producer.
We don't control it.
And what do you go off of?
He has to throw it.
No, no, no. I like that you're a producer, too. More than topic guy. But what do you go off of? You have to throw it. No, no, no.
I like that you're a producer, too.
You're more of a topic guy.
But what do you get yours?
It's the stuff that's trending, right?
Man.
What's trending and being discussed.
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Talk to me.
Hey, so what's trending and being discussed?
So after the Super Bowl, there was a champion.
And he's going off of what's trending.
And we talked about what again?
What was trending worldwide.
Can't we all just get a...
For our audience as well, though.
Every show is different.
What did Rodney King say?
When they was whooping his ass.
When he was doing it while he was getting his ass whooped?
Yeah, boy! He said it after the ass whooped.. When he was doing it while he was getting his ass whooped?
Yeah, boy.
He said it after the ass whooped.
I thought he was saying,
ouch, ouch, nigga, that hurts.
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So we got one Mostly Fans question from underdog user G1234.
If you had to watch a film before a playoff game, what movie would that be?
What movie are you watching to get you ready for a playoff game?
Training Day.
Six Men.
Six Men.
White Man Can't Jump.
And Sean, you said Training Day?
Nah, nah, nah, nah. White Man Can't Jump. Nah, you said training day Nah, nah, nah, nah
Get nah nah nah go to my car
Undisputed shout out to Marcus Johnson undisputed to boyka
Sunset apart so it's that part quality from shout out space man You watching basketball? I bought the rim. You watching basketball? My time to get it.
My time to represent.
Let's go, shorty.
And he gave him a sundae.
Fuck you.
Yeah.
Jesus.
I got to watch something like dramatic.
I got to watch like an underdog.
I got to watch like an underdog.
You're not watching basketball century?
Nobody's watching Hoosiers?
You motherfuckers will be playing basketball in Pelican Bay.
Major League? Well, I'm not watching all that shit. Quality filmuckers will be playing basketball in Pelican Bay. Major League.
I'm not watching all that shit.
Quality film.
It's all Rick Vaughn.
Who got the hookup?
Also a great film.
Major Payne.
The only, you got to know, if you know Undisputed, you know Boyka, you'll get it.
It's an underdog story in a sense.
Blue Street.
A great film to prepare for.
Life. Gotta watch Life.
You remember it was supposed to be
like Wesley Snipes as
Mike Tyson going to jail
and winning this unbroad fight.
The guy he beat, they made a movie
about shit.
They did two? That's what I'm saying.
I said Godfather 2, but it might be too long.
Man, I thought the first one was the three. I said Godfather II, but it might be too long. Yeah, that's right.
Man, I thought the first one was the same.
You would miss the game watching Godfather II.
I was going to say Malcolm X.
You're going to miss the game.
You're going to miss the game.
You're going to miss the game.
That's a lot.
You're going to miss the game.
You're sitting in the back still.
You're like, damn, my bad.
They could have smoked Malcolm.
What's your favorite movie of all time?
You got stuck with one movie.
Just one movie. I don't watch anything Michael
Matricula what I'm stuck with them ago. I'm a movie you don't watch one movie all time
I'm gonna do American Gangster. I'm do all about the Benjamin's
That's a great great quality change my
Avengers affinity Oh I'm going to change mine. Avengers, Affinity, of course.
Game, game, or some shit.
I'm going to do Dark Knight.
I'm going to do
Tiana Trump, her newest
video.
Booty Talk 44?
Yes, I'm watching that.
If I had one, it's either Pinky
or Pinky back in the day.
Pinky was on. Booty Talk day or the, what's that one?
Booty Talk 44.
Nah, nah, nah, man.
You know what I'm talking about.
Jada Fire.
I'm watching Jango.
It was Janet.
I'm watching Jango
because you get action and comedy.
I'm watching Jango.
I'm watching Jango.
Booty Talk 44.
Yes, I'm watching Jango.
2003, it's on IMDb. Booty Talk 44ango. Booty Talk Jango. The hot 44. Yes, don't look it up. Or 2003, it's on IMDb.
Yeah, Booty Talk 44.
They hot 44.
They just go from 43 to 46.
Booty Talk 44 is crazy.
44 and 45 are under, they're unrated.
They don't let you see them.
Booty Talk 44 is on IMDb.
You can Google it.
Hey, this day's been, oh, man.
This day's been different.
We've gone a lot of different places. We've got to day's been different. We've gone a lot of different places.
We got to do this again tomorrow.
44.
We're going to a lot of different places.
Y'all got to stop talking that now.
50 million?
44.
50 million is what it's going to cost y'all over there talking
about the goddamn Booty Talk 44.
44.
Mm-mm.
Mm-mm.
Award nominated.
You can't buy it no more.
There's no paper trail.
You got to download it now.
All right.
That's black buster.
Yeah. Yeah. I had to V it now. That's blockbuster.
I had to VHS it.
If you caught me, you caught me.
That's 44.
That's 44, baby.
The other entrance.
How you going to cheat on me with 44?
Shit.
Because 25, I can't find that motherfucker. I have to look around before you walk behind the black curtain.
25 is legendary.
Debbie does Dallas.
That was the real one. Man25 is legendary. Debbie Does Dallas. Woo!
That was a real one.
Man, Lord have mercy.
Cinema.
That was cinema.
What was yours?
Favorite film?
Yeah.
I'm going to have to go Godfather 2.
Yeah.
Just for more than one.
Yeah.
Every time that's on, I just.
So you're not going to say White Man Can't Jump?
No.
Slam Dunk Ernest, also.
Wow.
Y'all not going with Jada.
That's crazy.
I was going with taking that.
Well, Joe was watching the same ones I was watching.
We was watching the Playboy, the Hustlers.
You know, we got to look at the same.
Shout out to my aunt.
We looking at the same shit.
The laundry.
You was looking at the booty toe.
And I was.
What about Mrs. Doubtfire?
The laundry basket with the towel over it.
About.
That was the thing about Mrs. Doubtfire.
Blank check.
Richie Rich.
Blank man.
Blank man is fucking great.
Meteor man.
Meteor man.
You know what I used to love when I was little?
Twins.
Yeah, twins. Twins that's what I said.
Arnold.
Arnold.
Yeah, Twins.
I don't know why I like that movie so much.
I like the Tom Hanks shit.
The big shit when he was on the piano.
Do, do, do, do, do.
Home Alone.
Look at Home Alone.
Liar, liar, liar.
Liar, liar.
Funny.
Liar, liar.
Mine was fucking when he was talking to animals and shit.
Jim Carrey.
No, no, no.
Ace Ventura.
Ace Ventura.
Ace Ventura, yeah.
Set it off.
Hold it up.
Like, how do you remember movies like that?
Do the young ones remember these movies like we remember those?
I put them on, yeah.
I put my Nick watching them.
They don't really go to movie theaters, honestly.
He like, what if we call it?
The young kids don't really hit movie theaters.
Like, do they even have those, like,, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Like, do they even have those, like, the Honey,
I Shrunk the Kids and E.T.?
What about, uh, the Favies at Talk?
What's this generation's E.T.?
Yeah, it's all on Disney+.
Booty Talk 50.
No, I'm saying, what's this generation's Booty Talk 50?
Young Kicks, what's your job?
I guess theirs is more cartoonish.
Because I was like Willow.
Like Willow.
I used to love Willow.
Like what is theirs?
Huh?
Like franchises now I feel like for the younger generation.
It is?
Yeah, like Marvel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ain't no more shows and movies.
Yeah, they only watch like Spiderman, kids, Spiderman.
Is there anime stuff?
Oh, okay.
They need a vampire movie.
They need a vampire movie. Yeah, they only watch like Spider-Man kids, Spider-Man and shit.
Is there anime stuff?
Oh, okay.
They need a vampire Brooklyn.
Even if anime was-
I hate it.
Hey, they look down on Dragon Ball Z.
I hate that.
They do?
How?
You like Dragon Ball Z?
Oh yeah, nigga.
I like the cars, but-
I'm Goku.
I'm Goku.
I'm the original.
Super Saiyan.
Y'all watch Pokemon?
No. Pikachu! That ain't the sameyan. Y'all watch Pokemon? Pikachu!
That ain't the same one.
Sin City was a good one.
Sin City was a good one.
We watched The Simpsons.
Family Guy.
Oh, they said they watching OnlyFans now.
They're watching OnlyFans.
OnlyFans Pornhub?
Prime View.
A lot easier to get all the content you need on the internet.
Yeah, man.
When a fan walk up to you, be like, I seen your girl wearing OnlyFans.
I mean, that's weird.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that.
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. I my God, yeah. A lot easier to get all the content you need on the internet. Yeah, man.
When a fan walks up to you, be like, I seen your girl, man, on OnlyFans.
That's crazy.
50 million.
I say, when?
On that note, appreciate all y'all.
We are going to do it again tomorrow with this same crew here on the couch.
You ain't tell me you had.
Shout out to everybody in the chat.
Shout out to everybody here in the couch.
Shout out to our whole crew.
Shout out to Underdog.
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I don't know football. Listen, I
whooped his ass.
I whooped your ass.
Made you quit twice. Oh, yeah.
Yes.
I know it. No.
Why are you making that face?
We whooped the ass of Black Football.
Black Football what? Black Football. We whooped their asses in black football too. Talk about what?
Black football what?
Black football, we whooped your ass and y'all quit.
Man, we beat y'all that day in Mountain Valley.
Not when I was on.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
We beat y'all and then it got dark.
We had to come back and then I beat y'all.
We were whooping their ass.
You went and got Matt Barnes, the Rosen, all these athletes.
I had hood niggas.
I had hood people in Gardenia.
I had real hood people. He went and cheated. He went and got real athletes. I had hood niggas. I had hood people in Gardena. I had real hood people.
Gardena?
He went and cheated.
He went and got real athletes, nigga.
I had real liquor store niggas.
If he ain't quitting, he cheating.
He had real football players.
No, I had niggas from Gardena, Compton, hood.
Hood.
Couldn't do nothing.
Tim's on.
Couldn't do nothing.
Didn't even have cleats on.
They just running.
They're in the Cortez.
Yeah, running.
No wonder why you sliding.
Shout out to whoever said Poodie Tang in the chat.
We got on chunks.
We got on kicks.
Watch out.
Watch out.
Game, baby.
You got the highlights for that, too.
They got him and DeRozan and him and Gil all in the back.
Come on, man.
They just sitting back.
Throw it up.
Throw it up.
Come on, dog.
Show a little ass.
Courtney McGinney out there.
I'm like, we through?
Yeah, quiet down. Oh, hey. They had a squad. Courtney Pagetti out there. I'm like, we do? Yeah, Courtney.
Oh, hey.
They had a squad.
You was by yourself?
Yeah, just only legal.
Over there.
I told you I had Nick.
Side out tag.
Yeah.
This has been another episode of Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
Well, we will see y'all tomorrow.