Gil's Arena - Michael Malone FIRED By The Nuggets STUNS Gil's Arena

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

Michael Malone FIRED By The Nuggets STUNS Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew react to the shocking news that the Denver Nuggets Fired Mike Malone and break down what this means for N...ikola Jokic & The team moving forward. The Los Angeles Clippers Are The NBA Playoffs' BIGGEST Sleepers according to Gil's Arena as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew examine an underrated season for Kawhi Leonard, James Harden & The Los Angeles Clippers and break down how this healthy Clippers squad can make some unexpected noise in the NBA Playoffs. They then react to Victor Wembanyama being spotted with Hakeem Olajuwon at last night's NCAA National Championship game reigniting a hostile debate from last season over whether or not the San Antonio Spurs' superstar should be training with the NBA Legend and learning his old moves. They also discuss what Wemby needs to work on this offseason to push the Spurs into being legit contenders before reacting to the championship game between Houston & Florida where Walter Clayton Jr may have played himself into a lottery pick. Next, they react to Draymond Green's comments surrounding Steph Curry not getting a fair whistle on the Draymond Green Show and debate if they agree or disagree with Steve Kerr calling Nikola Jokic the best center he's ever seen in the history of the NBA. Finally, they give their thoughts on Tracy McGrady's take that LeBron James would get waxed in an NBA 1 on 1 tournament and give Dwight Howard his much deserved flowers following his NBA Hall of Fame announcement. Please give us a like and subscribe!!! Gil's Arena Crew - Gilbert Arenas, Josiah Johnson, Kenyon Martin & Rashad McCants Gil's Arena Merch is Available NOW at https://gilsarenamerch.com/ Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GIL and get up to $1000 in Bonus Credits and A FREE Pick: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gil's-arena To get YOUR FREE Jumpstart Trial Bag, go to https://ruffgreens.com & use Promo code ARENA USE Code GIL10 for 10% off tickets on SeatGeek https://seatgeek.onelink.me/RrnK/GIL10 Vote Here For The Webby Awards - https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2025/creators/individual-creator/sports Join the Playback chat to interact with Gil and Josiah https://www.playback.tv/gilbertarenas SUBSCRIBE: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAvjYgmwadC682OoC4Cc6TQ Join the Underdog discord for access to exclusive giveaways and promos! https://discord.gg/underdog 0:00:00 - 2 Min Timer 0:01:59 - Show Start 0:04:08 - Gil Enters The Arena Smoking On The Malone Pack 0:16:09 - Michael Malone FIRED 1:05:20 - Wemby SHOULD Train With Hakeem Olajuwon 1:33:05 - Auburn's Lineup Is Older Than The NBA 1:49:57 - Steph Gets An Unfair Whistle 2:13:27 - The Clippers' Are The NBA's SNEAKIEST Playoff Team 2:19:27 - Gilbert Arenas HATES The Play-In Tournament 2:39:46 - MostlyFans Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:14 Another one bites the dust. Listen, Mike Malone ain't got nothing. One bucket for the Nuggets. Y'all still in trouble. Y'all, all that cheering, yeah. He saw what was coming. He saw what was coming. Sound good.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Tapped out. He's still a motherfucker. Who's your daddy? Number 15 still play there. For saw what was coming. He saw what was coming. Sound good. Tap out. He's still a motherfucker. Who's your daddy? Number 15 still play there. For now, can you? Number 15 still there. We got horses in LA too.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We got horses in LA too. Look what I just said. You just got to bring them up, huh? Clippers and Lakers. But this is Gil's Arena. Where is Gilbert Arenas at? Has anybody seen Gilbert? No?
Starting point is 00:01:50 Nobody know where Gil at? The show has started. We at his house. All right, well, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to rock out. On this side of the couch, we got the man known as Cemetery Larry. Rashad McCann is back here with us. NCAA champion of the world. Similar to the Florida Gators.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Who got their third natty. Rashad, you changed your pick yesterday. Did I? You did change your pick. Did I? You had Houston in your bracket. Did I? You thought Florida was going to take it.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Josh Radomis, if you'd like to complain. Thank you again for just knowing the name. I acknowledge. The proper name. I acknowledge? You thought Florida was going to take it. Josh Radames said he'd like to complain. Thank you again for just knowing the name. I acknowledge. The proper name. I acknowledge. You got to show love.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Shout out to those Gators. And on this side, we have... Why you flip-flopping? That's why. That's why. Typical, typical
Starting point is 00:02:39 Sean McCann's fashion. filled out his bracket, had Houston winning on his bracket, and Houston winning on his bracket. Changed your heart. And said the other team was going to win. Mm-hmm. I keep hearing footsteps, baby.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Gilbert Arena says enter the arena. Yeah. LeBron, LeBron, LeBron James. Oh, yeah. arena Thank you, just plop yeah the door a y'all musta know already off the jump. Got the suitcase. What's in the box? Uh-oh. Oh! Yes, ladies and gentlemen. Already got the Lakers on it.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yeah. Uh-oh. Can I get some glasses? Can I get some glasses? I just need two. We pop your bottle. Just two. It just needs two.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Just two. Oh, hey, ain't going to be no four of us drinking over here. You know what? There's only going to be one. Woo! No salty drinkers in the arena. Pop your bottles. Who's your daddy? Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:04:01 We got Luca. We got Luca. Danny. I can't help. What if the parade? Can we just have the parade? I'll invite you, man. You can ride on my boat. I'm going to have the boat in the back.
Starting point is 00:04:19 On the freeway. Boat. We're going to boat, water, jacuzzi, everything. Will somebody retire? Yeah, they retired coach what they got If I'm not mistaken the guys still play there what guys hmm the one that matter You mean your kid? Yeah, he's just going to... Oh, nah, he lost his road dog. Hey, now, when all else fails, you're going to turn five. Shit, listen. You know what I'm saying, Sean?
Starting point is 00:04:54 You ain't got a coach turn five. He's going to turn on the five. Stop at Stapleson. We got a 15 jersey ready for you. Boy, you sweating. Huh? You sweating. What? You can't keep up the laugh ever. No, I've written up and down the street You didn't see all the white people running around jumping outside Ladies and gentlemen, go stand. Why are we having a show today?
Starting point is 00:05:19 Where's the where's the balloon? I know it's we just come, come on, balloons. Can we get those million balloons back in here? We have the balloons. I'm prepared. I'm prepared. I got the trophy every day. Damn. If you stay ready, you got to get ready, ladies and gentlemen. Hey, what's the chat talking about?
Starting point is 00:05:41 Are they happy or not? Talking about unemployed coaches and the teams they used to coach. Hey, do you know the storyline like father and son, first champs? LeBron James and Bronny, your point? He brought it up, Kane. He brought it up. What'd I say? He brought it up.
Starting point is 00:05:57 He wouldn't even hear. What'd I say? Hey, the King, that's how you do it? Bring what up? Oh, talking about the Lakers. Oh, okay. All what up? Oh, you're talking about the Lakers? Oh, okay. We can't bring up talking about the Lakers? Hey, he's trying to smoke the cigar for real.
Starting point is 00:06:11 He's going to have a rough hour. He's trying to smoke it like a black and brown. Hey, he's going to have a rough hour. It's going to be nasty, too. His head ain't going to cut. That's the new Kelsey Plums, man. You know, she's with the Sparks now. It's all purple and gold. Kelsey Plums cigars.
Starting point is 00:06:28 It's the Kelsey Plums right here. Uh-uh. And I got it when she was on Vegas. So you see how this shit is aligning? Mm. Stars are aligned. First cigar I ever smoked right here. It's Sparks.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I mean, y'all can carry on, man. We'll see if we make it through the show. But this is good for right now. Hey, are we going to talk about the Lakers first or what are we going to do I didn't even see the run everything just got erased once I heard those news. Gil they want to know if you're smoking the Michael Malone pack
Starting point is 00:06:53 hey can somebody roll up something for me real quick the second time on that Michael Malone hey Cal and Booth I know you got kid too but, we don't give a fuck. We don't give a, get on out of there, man. Hey, before you go, you should trade your kids right on to us.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Oh, he gone already. Mm-hmm. He ain't got no more decisions. Yeah. They got him and his pink slip together. Mm, pack your shit. Nico lasted longer, Who would have guessed? But this is Gil's Arena presented by Underdog.
Starting point is 00:07:27 As always, we got the Legend of Gilbert Arenas here with us. And we're going to start from the top. The man known as Cemetery Larry, NCAA champion Rashad McCants. Back in the building. See if we bring him back to the Lakers side. On this side of the couch, we got the distinguished gentleman, representing Oak Cliff, former number one pick, Canyon Martin. But, Canyon, here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You mad we always talk about the Lakers. I'm not mad. Like I ain't put the call in to Palenka. You know who we need. I'm definitely not mad. You know who we need. We got Bronny. We need KJ
Starting point is 00:08:06 Hey, I'm Satan. Can you say this for after yeah, you know, yeah, man, it's gonna be a long way When is the championship like that's in wood middle of June? If not earlier depending on how we feel The pride of LA our favorite Slovenian look at that. See I didn't have a certain name I got Tom shit. So as you already know, we got a lot to discuss one thing We need to address swaggy P not in the arena today. We'll be back tomorrow But if you're in LA and you want to see him before that head over to Westwood We got our billboard right near UCLA's campus You can see him decked out in UCLA gear as a punishment for the Instagram bet that he lost.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And you can expect a public apology from Swaggy tomorrow when he's back in the arena for not believing in these Bruins. Swaggy, we appreciate you. Fours up, sir. Our newest and truest Bruin, Swaggy P. Nick Young. But for all the fans out there, we still got two viewing options for you. Our traditional version, mobile vertical version. Pick whichever one you want to watch. Just make sure you support the show.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Here's what's cracking in the arena today. Kawhi Leonard has been balling since the All-Star break and was just named Player of the Week. How scary is a healthy Clippers squad in the playoffs? A lot of teams seem like they don't want to play the Clips if they have full strength. I know one team that does, though. Steph Curry, considered by many to be the greatest point guard in NBA history,
Starting point is 00:09:29 but does Chef Curry deserve a better whistle? Jimmy Butler has some thoughts. Draymond Greed has some thoughts on the latest episode of his show. And Steph Cooks, whether or not he goes to the free throw line. And the biggest news of the day, the Nuggets shocked the basketball world by firing both head coach Michael Malone and GM Calvin Booth just two years after winning a title. And with less than a week remaining in the regular season, where do the Nuggets go from here? Most importantly, where does their MVP candidate Nikola Jokic go?
Starting point is 00:10:00 If you don't stay in Denver. But before we get into all that, as always, support the show. Download the Underdog app. Use promo code GIL. Get up to $1,000 of bonus cash plus a special. Pick them. And, okay, this is in the script, so we got to talk Lakers. Luka Doncic is playing tonight.
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Starting point is 00:10:33 to claim your offer for tonight's game. You missed a spot. You missed a spot. All right. All right, cool. As for tonight, Kenyon has some picks up in his partner pack on the Underdog app. Let's take a look. Hope we didn't take
Starting point is 00:10:47 no dip in nuggets at Kenyon's pick. Nugget free. Smart man. Nugget free. You got Mark Williams higher 7.5 rebounds. Darius Garland
Starting point is 00:10:54 higher 19.5 points. Zach Ali, Elise Asche, higher 11.5 points. And Onyeka Okongu higher 10.5 rebounds. If you roll with Kenyon's partner pack, you can
Starting point is 00:11:06 win 6.71 times your bread. How you feeling about your picks tonight, Kenya? Yeah, I did what Gil did. I went on there and see what else they had instead of the main ones. Adjusted a few of them. I'm about to take those right now. Right? Adjusted a few of them
Starting point is 00:11:22 so yeah. How you think Kenya's partner pack? Look, you've been on a heater lately, just a few of them, so yeah. How do you think Kenyon's partner impact? Look, you've been on a heater lately, taking a lot of underdogs money, giving it to the people for those who have decided to roll with your opinions in regards to pickups. I'd like to share. I don't like the Shashay. He's iffy.
Starting point is 00:11:42 12 points? Mm-hm. It's the only problem we have. He could get it, points it's the only problem with him he could get it but it's a risk but it's a good investment though
Starting point is 00:11:49 six times the money if he if he play a lot he just risky he went out I go away from I'm just thinking this is the last week
Starting point is 00:11:59 of the season he'll rookie yeah they'll let him rock they should they should on that yeah that's a good
Starting point is 00:12:04 that's a good one though cause he'll get put up more shots. Late in the season. Yeah. So three of his last five games, he had the 36-piece, but then he had two nine-point games. But his last two games, he's had 12 and 16 against the Knicks and Jazz. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Playing the Magic tonight, he might be able to do his thing. So we asked the chat if they're riding or fading with your picks tonight. Over 1,300 voters, 58% said they're riding. They're rolling with you, Kenya. They believe in you. I know there's no Lakers on the pick-em,
Starting point is 00:12:32 but neither here nor there. Never. I don't know who it's gonna be. And speaking of winning bread and taking underdogs money, Gil, your pack hit yesterday on the
Starting point is 00:12:45 underdog app as well. Let's take a look. Man, I'm shooting. I'm like 91% at this point, man. You know, you had the 3.17 multiplier. Don't do too much, man. So for all y'all, if y'all are tailing Gil's picks, don't forget to tail Gil's Arena's packs and share your winning entries with us on Twitter, at Gil's Arena Show.
Starting point is 00:13:04 We will post some of those, show y'all some love tag us with your underdog username for a chance to win bonus underdog credit and get featured on the show i also had a pack that hit last night during the natty game i do the live pick'ems though first half a little slow knew that they would bounce back appreciate you walter clayton jr joan roberts no it didn't go the way you wanted to go but thank you for getting those four rebounds for me manuel sharp no it didn't go the way you wanted to go thank, but thank you for getting those four rebounds for me. Emmanuel Sharp, no, it didn't go the way you wanted it to go. Thank you for getting those 8.5 points rebounds and assists for me in the second half. It helped me get some bread as well. But, again, continue to support us.
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Starting point is 00:14:05 Help us help you. Gil said if he email, your vote will not be counted. Help us help you. Gil said if he wins, we all get raises and promotions. Hey, I'm in second right now. Who beating you? Another Laker fan. About to be a Laker sweep. You always talk about the Lakers, Gil.
Starting point is 00:14:21 We weren't even thinking about the Lakers. You all right? Of Los Angeles. You all right? Of Los Angeles. You all right? I'm trying not to be. I'm trying to be J.R. Smith in a minute. This shirt and jacket coming off at some point, sir. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:14:37 I'm celebrating for 2020. Yeah, I'm doing my 2020 right now. It ain't 2025 in the summer. You don't celebrate like you celebrate right now. You must be stressed I never Do I look stressed? Yeah, no, man. Did you see what happened? Who finds a white man early in the morning? That's some black shit right there he didn't find a white man they fired the nigga first
Starting point is 00:15:03 No, no, no, no. Yeah. They fired the nigga. He ain't got no nigga. They say, look, because you brought him in, you go with him. Go with him. Calvin. Calvin.
Starting point is 00:15:14 Calvin White. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. It's some absolutely stunning news. The Denver Nuggets have cleaned house, firing head coach Michael Malone and general manager Calvin Booth. Let's take a look. They got a video on it? So Shams
Starting point is 00:15:29 was first with the report. They don't. We need the close capture surveillance video. Nuggets dismissed. Malone in a meeting today. We can reenact it. Malone is the winningest coach in franchise history since being hired in 2015, led the Niggas to the 2023 NBA championship.
Starting point is 00:15:51 As mentioned, GM Calvin Booth also fired as well. Good usher boy. You can't, you know, never want to see a black man lose his job so close to Easter. Nah, nah, I don't. But, you know, he was in the way. He's been in the way for the last couple years, so move the fuck on. So per ESPN research, this is the latest coaching change in NBA history, tying Hubie Brown in 1980-81.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Can we get some napkins, please, in the arena? No, no, no, no. You got that move? Click on. I'm sorry, baby. So lead assistant coach David Adelman takes over as interim head coach. He is the son of legendary head coach Rick Adelman. Malone was signed through the 26-27 season.
Starting point is 00:16:28 In his nearly 10 seasons in Denver, compiled a record of 471 and 327 in the regular season, 44 and 36 in the postseason. As mentioned, winning a chip in 2023, reaching the playoffs in each of the last six seasons. Would have been seven if he still had a job, which he does not. What the hell is going on in Denver right now? We got to start with you, Kenyon. Former Nugget. Favorite son of Denver and Colorado.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Distinguished gentleman. Yeah, nah. What's going on? It's a surprise. Um, that's what I'm gathering. This was a thing for a while, some tensions in the building within ownership and by certain aspects. So I didn't – no one thought it was going to be right now.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Well, somebody – At least see how the playoffs go. They didn't make the decision, right? But it's just unexpected from the basketball community. Someone who just won a championship like we stated two years ago. The guys believed in it, it seemed. They played out. They always responded to his way of coaching.
Starting point is 00:17:54 Lost four straight. As of late, like you stated yesterday, they lost four straight. No, Jamal Murray been out the last five games, though, with the hamstring. Yeah, so that's a factor. But I guess they didn't weigh that into this decision. So I guess whatever the circumstances was between ownership and him and management was deeper than rap, right? As they say, so. Who's your daddy?
Starting point is 00:18:25 Yeah, so Josh Kroenke making these decisions. So hopefully this This is One he could what's his name Josh? Kroenke Josh Kroenke okay Stan is the owner Stan son Stan Kroenke Stan Kroenke He owns the Rams as well. Yeah, I love that man there Can you see him a fruit basket? Yeah, gills arena basket with some mangoes in there, please. Good job. Pomegranates.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Elaborate, exotic fruits. You know what, send both. Both of them. Send one to Nico. Son and father. Send one to Nico, too.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Another one. Sean, what do you think about the nuggets? He's a Rams. He owns a Rams. A lot of bread, Gil. He must have seen
Starting point is 00:19:01 that I was ordering a lot of shit. A lot of Rams shit. That's what he's saying? Yeah, he must have been have been like damn my RAM shit is going up in the price We saw him out How the bra go get his fifth championship? We were talking about the demo I guess fire head coach Michael Malone after nearly 10 seasons with the team. Winning his coach since 2015 when he took over in Denver across the NBA.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Also fired GM Calvin Booth. Is he the last coach that had it this long, like the longest tenure? Let me pull it up. On tenure? Steve Kerr? Him and Steve? Been around the longest. Well, it's Spogel. Yeah, Mr. Steve. Been around the longest. And pot. Well.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Oh, Sproles. Sproles. Hmm. Doc. Well. Technically. Technically. Not with the same team. I know.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah. I believe there's a lot of teams that need to make decisions. Oh, absolutely. That Denver just made. And I think that that should come at the detriment of knowing you had to turn your whole organization upside down. And I think that's what they just did with Denver, seeing that the vision that Calvin Booth had. They got a championship out of it.
Starting point is 00:20:21 But Mike being there 10 years getting one championship. The last two years that the engine ain't been revving like it's supposed to it's been going down. It hasn't been going up. Calvin didn't make any beneficial moves for the team to look better and even perform better in the playoffs. So you know, it's time to make a move but I see Portland, Portland on the clock. Clean house Clippers on the clock. Clean out Chicago Bulls on the clock. Clean house. Clippers on the clock. Clean house. Chicago Bulls on the clock. Clean house. Indiana Pacers on the clock.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Clean house. Not the mask. Minnesota Timberwolves on the clock. Clean house. Finchie? Golden State Warriors on the fucking clock. If you don't get Steve Kerr out of there. Bad Ben Steve?
Starting point is 00:21:00 Clean house. Miami Heat. It ain't hot no more. Clean house. It ain't hot no more. Clean house. It ain't hot no more. Clean house. Huh? Dallas Mavericks.
Starting point is 00:21:11 You kidding around? Hey, nigga tired to grow up. Gotta get the fuck out of here. The Pelicans. Or the Pelicans, depending on what you feel about them. Willie Green, it ain't never green down there. Ain't no grass. Got to go. And the Lakers. J.J. Ritter. Just because. Ain't no grass. Got to go.
Starting point is 00:21:26 And the Lakers, J.J. Ritter, just because I don't fucking like y'all. The honest man. J.J. in coaches of the year. You don't got OKC on there? Nope. Mark Dagnall? Nope. You just got coach of the year?
Starting point is 00:21:38 I don't care. They in the way. Are you not getting the memo around here? Have you not got the memo yet? Wake up. We don't need any help. Open your eyes. Be woke. Use the black. Are you not getting the memo around here? Have you not got the memo yet? Wake up. We don't need any help. Open your eyes. Be woke.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Use the black side of you. We got our favorite Slovenian. Woke. Wake up. In the middle of the season, we got Luka. Unfortunately. Right? Use the black side.
Starting point is 00:21:58 We supposed to be brothers. I know. I'm just saying, in tennis up, man. We supposed to be brothers. We got Luka. We don't know how that happened. The only team that been in our motherfucking way, they just fired their coach
Starting point is 00:22:08 and the GM. Burping babies. His daycare is still open, god damn it. They need some more diapers. That motherfucker's still open and business is popping. They need some more diapers. Business is
Starting point is 00:22:22 booming at Nicola's. Entering this season here with the longest tenure coaches in the league, Greg Popovich obviously has some health issues. Future remains uncertain. Eric Spolstra, second longest tenure. Steve Kerr. And then fourth and fifth, Michael Malone, who was just booted today. Taylor Jenkins was in fifth for longest tenure head coaches.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Dang. Booted as well. Did not finish the season with their team. Who the fuck is Taylor Jenkins? Memphis coach. Melfo. All I knew was Ja. Well, he was the coach.
Starting point is 00:22:51 He would have been the coach in the West. Pew, pew, pew, pew. Okay. It's a 22. You motherfuckers crazy out here, man. It's hard out here
Starting point is 00:23:00 for NBA coaches. So here's part of the statement from Josh Kroenke, vice chairman of Kroenke Sports and Entertainment on the firing of Malone. Heke, Vice Chairman of Kroenke Sports and Entertainment on the firing of Malone. He said, It's with no pleasure
Starting point is 00:23:08 that we announce that we have relieved Michael Malone of his head coaching duties effectively, immediately. David Adelman will assume our head coaching role for the remainder
Starting point is 00:23:17 of the 24-25 season. This decision was not made lightly and was evaluated very carefully and we do it only with the intention of giving our group the best chance at competing
Starting point is 00:23:25 for the 2025 NBA championship and delivering another title to Denver and our fans everywhere. That man's smart. I like him. Man, that's the smartest white man I know. Cronky O'Houper played in Mizzou. 24 hours, man. Because he knows man I know. Cronky or Hooper played in Mizzou. That's 24 hours, man. Because he knows what I know.
Starting point is 00:23:48 What's that? Lakers win. Dodgers win. Rams win. You see how that work, right? When you buy Laker gear, it comes with Rams gear. That mean they fucking suck. Huh?
Starting point is 00:24:03 That mean they suck. Who? If they give you the shit for free. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, they fucking suck. That mean they suck. Who? If they give you this shit for free. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, they're throwing it in there for free. That mean you're using the team. It's a little package. They know you're not going to wear it.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Didn't we just get somebody on the Rams? Yeah, I'm a Raiders fan. We got Geno Smith. And Pete Carroll. Okay, but... Not going to be confused with Apollo, Pete Carroll. We just got a receiver. Hot off the market, right?
Starting point is 00:24:29 No one cares. We're not worried about yours. No one. Y'all lost Cooper. You don't even know his name. You don't even know his name. Adams. Devontae Adams, wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Devontae. Devontae. Oh, yeah. I know you don't have this problem, but look. Devontae! Oh yeah! I know you don't have this problem, but look. You know what this feels like? Because I've never won a championship. You got this, right? It's like when you find out you don't have to pay child support no more. That rush you get just like... It's adrenaline. Oh my God. How would you describe that?
Starting point is 00:25:06 Huh pocket starts speaking back to you and shit Just your pocket started your bank account look a little fuller shit knowing it ain't going nowhere man. I Don't know why I'm so happy but I'm happy And y'all want to just go eat lunch Why we at work man Let's go with the noble lunch Naomi What? I invite some white girls. Stop the cap. I got a couple white girls for you, man. 300 on the top, man. Stop the cap.
Starting point is 00:25:48 No, let's see. I'm getting serious, man. Stop the cap. Not the 150. No, 300. 300. Good ones. No.
Starting point is 00:25:57 But in all sincerity, we heard Josh Cronkite. No, I was serious. OK. Why are we at work? Oh, I need my check, Gil. OK. All right, man. Frankly, tough economic times.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I'm trying to buy some eggs after the show. I need all of my money. Eggs is pricey. But we heard what Josh Cronky said about the decision to fire Michael Malone. This damn boy is crazy, man. So we'll go over to you, Kenya. Do you believe this move improves the Nuggets' chances to win the 2025 title, as Kroenke said? That's hard for me to believe when the guy got a championship.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Like, if he didn't have one, I would probably say, okay, cool, I can ride. I hear you, Josh. But the fact that the guy got one and it was like... Recent? Very recent. Very recent. Right? Josh, but the fact that the guy got one and it was like recent? Very recent. Very recent. Right? Yeah, that's hard for me to believe, but hey, they money, they team.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Do what the fuck they want to do. Hope it work out for them. So how do you believe that this move helped? Hey, y'all want hookah? I just bought six new hookahs, man. I think it's tea hookah. Buy 77. It's tea hookah. So you're not smoking hookah, you're smoking tea. You smoking tea?
Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah. Word? That's some new shit? I tried. You know how to do it? Yeah, give me a hookah for everybody, man. Give him a free... You know how to do it? Yeah, give me a hookah hookah for everybody, man. Give it, give it to me. Luka hookah, man. Luka hookah, man. Luka hookah, man.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Luka hookah. Hey, Sean, I'm sorry, man. Who else needs to get fired? Hey, who else needs to get fired for us to get a raise? Yeah, OKC, man, go ahead and fire that motherfucker. Hey, hey, hey, hey, Sam Preston, fire y'all goddamn head coach. We might get a raise around this bitch. Thunder just lost by 26 to the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:27:47 I would say Dagnall's job in jeopardy. Don't know if he's the man to lead that squad into the playoffs. Yeah, we need to fire him. Should we call him so we can get a raise? Yeah, hell yeah. He may have done it. I don't know. Or the petition.
Starting point is 00:27:59 Man, this is crazy. Well, let's move over to this side of the couch. Shad, do you believe this move improves the Nuggets' chances to win the 2025 title? Did you come up with that question? This is a question. He said it in his statement. We fired him because we think it improves our chances of winning a title.
Starting point is 00:28:16 From Josh Cronky's mouth himself. That means that they got some internal shit that they answering. Questions that are looming about whether or not he can take this team to the next level currently i think that has been addressed and i think they were colluding between him and and calvin buford they just found out about the coup both of y'all can go and then figure it out if If they start playing better after this, you're going to you're just going to know what it was. Yeah. So for I've been thinking about like just the draft picks that they've had, like they've only like like Christian Brown kid, the only one that's really saying Peyton.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Why? Yeah. Yeah. But you really took a risk on him. Because he really didn't play in college. One year at UCLA, didn't play much. Didn't really play much. Had a solid tournament, ended up getting selected with the 36ers. And then that's that, like, we like really young guys shit from Calvin Booth. Potential pan out shit, yeah. Yeah, like, that's, like, so, yeah, like, Zeke Najia, y'all been, like, holding on to this.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Like, it's shit around there that you, at the end of that bench, Yeah, like Zeke Najee, y'all been like holding on to this. It's shit around there that you, at the end of that bench, you're like, what the fuck have y'all been doing around here? So I get that part of it. I've always thought that, but I thought Michael Malone did an excellent job with the hand that he had been dealt for as the roster at maximizing that talent because you had this equalizing the cola that made everybody around him better. He had a lot of deficiencies. Now, I guess that roster is not what they've been rostered. Pretty consistent. I'm minus losing
Starting point is 00:30:00 KCP. I'm just saying like with that core. Yeah, but it's just like, what else have you added? Like, Jamal Murray's out, then it's like, what else have you added? And so I just didn't, I don't understand it right now. I understand if they have a first-round exit, I get that. Yeah. Right? Then you're like, okay, now what do we need to do to readjust these things? Hey, Liam, how you doing? This goddamn boy. Doing well, Liam, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:30:26 This goddamn boy. Doing well, man. Thank you for meeting with me yesterday. I had a great conversation. I hope you felt the same way. I feel good. Hey, we're live right now. I'm just wondering, hey, can we get a Lakers suite through the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:30:40 Yes, Gil! Yes! Liam, you're on the spot. You're on the air. You're on the air. You're on air, too. So, like, we're trying to get a Laker suite. Hey, man, that's some guys. You must feel some guys. You have to feel special because he actually called you.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Yeah, you know, we just need a Laker suite, you know, can fit about 20, 27, 28 of us. Well, does everybody want to go? Is the question good? Yeah, we'll figure that out. Let me hear that. Does everybody want to go? I appreciate you, man.
Starting point is 00:31:05 All right. Hey, Crystal, can you send him a fruit basket? Send Liam a fruit basket. Everybody get fruit baskets. Exotic fruit. Everybody get fruit baskets. Everybody's getting fruit baskets. They're here on Gills Arena presenting my $100.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Whoop, whoop. Everybody get fruit baskets. That's the money man right there. You know, you got to. Y'all don't roll with the Lakers, though. See, I don't want to. No, no, they going. They're going to root for the other team.
Starting point is 00:31:24 They're going to be in the building. They're going to root for the other team. They're going to be in the building. They're going to root for the other team. They're going to have to see this. But you look at the West standings right now. Nuggets in fourth place. You got four teams behind them that are all 46 and 32. They're trying to make a playoff push. Three games left in their season.
Starting point is 00:31:43 They fire Michael Malone, the man who led them to a championship 2023. Am I tripping? This shit don't make no sense. No, it doesn't, but I guess it makes sense to them. That's all it needs to make sense to. They did it. Like I said, they teamed their money.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Smart man right there. Fuck, we ask them questions. Because none of us, nobody has the answer so it's it's a lot of what-ifs right now, it's a lot of speculation and what-ifs and I said, it's Whatever the conversations that they've been having with Adam and Let them to believe that he can do the job. So, Shod, you read off a list of coaches that you think can move around. So, since 2019. I ain't going to let you pack my man Big Shot up, though.
Starting point is 00:32:39 He got to go, man. No, they showed growth this year. Yeah, they did. They showed growth. They did. They did. They did. They did. They did. I'll give them another one. It's unfortunate, man. So since 2019,
Starting point is 00:32:52 here's how NBA Championship head coaches are fair. So Nick Nurse, no longer with the Raptors, obviously with the Sixers. Frank Vogel won in 2020 with the Lakers. Does not have a job with the Lakers anymore. Mike Boonhoser, 2021 with the Bucs. No longer with the Bucs, coaching with the Suns right now. Steve Kerr, 2022, still has a job.
Starting point is 00:33:08 Michael Malone, 2023. Got the boot. Obviously, Joe Mazzulla won last year. Safer now. You better off not winning. You better off. Listen, there's two things you better off not doing in this NBA. Being the Lakers head coach, because you only got the job for two years.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Well. Right? Win or lose. Win or lose. With two years and, well, three things. Coach of the year and winning the NBA championships. It seems that those hold no, so you better off just playing the game and tanking and losing and being mediocre and get the kick beyond.
Starting point is 00:33:50 That's crazy. When you think about it. Right. You win. Give them the hope to win, and you get the stack, but actually do it. You win, and then. Yeah. Your window is.
Starting point is 00:34:01 You stay high up there, but you don't win no more. You get fired. But if you just stay you just stay aggressive you Should we own the doorstep should we should we right there? We should we competing for one? Unfortunately, that's crazy. It's only one show that's lasted past 25 years. I think that's the Simpsons Right, that's it. No to all the other shows. They got shelf life All the other shows get like five, six seasons. And we tired of this shit.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I'm only good to show on order. You got law and order. You know, you got certain shit that's like, okay, we get it. You got a formula for this shit, right? Everybody else like you trying Empire. It's Portland and Chauncey and them, it's Empire. You know what I'm saying? At some point, you gotta...
Starting point is 00:34:51 You saying black don't last? I'm just saying, at some point, it's BDT. I should've known when they started saying Mike. Not Michael. They started saying Mike. Michael. As soon as they hit his name, Mike got fired. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:05 I'm just saying. Everybody got to. And if they can get rid of him in 10 years, everybody else, man, listen. Especially you not winning. What do you mean? Why would we keep you around? What they ain't winning? They just won a championship.
Starting point is 00:35:17 No, I'm not talking about him. I'm talking about everybody else. Oh, I was about to say. They think that they cool. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, we ain't saying. He said, man, you should. Even Spoh, it's like Spoh. Yeah. What are we doing true. Yeah, we ain't safe. He said, man, even Spoh,
Starting point is 00:35:25 it's like Spoh. Yeah. What are we doing? If they just got rid of Mike. I agree with a few of the names on your list. I think it's time for them to, I think Miami needs
Starting point is 00:35:33 a different situation. Damn. Indiana needs a different situation. Both of them. They tied together. Project Pat. Just like Denver just did. I'll be telling Mickey,
Starting point is 00:35:42 hey man, just give me a chance. Hold on. Just like Denver because I ain't got to do it my way yet. If I like Denver, because I ain't got to do it my way yet. If I'm Spoh, I ain't got to do it my way yet. You talking about without Pat? Without Pat.
Starting point is 00:35:51 So I get that. Like, I can dig that. He's still in his extension, though. He still, he just signed. Yeah, I'm just saying. So he cool, but I'm just like, still, clean house. Just clean house. I find myself go upstairs.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Hey man, you let him go, I just go upstairs and then, you know. Just like what's the name of the Brad Stevens? Mm-hmm. Say what now? Y'all want to do another one?
Starting point is 00:36:13 No, no, no. Hey Joe, you want this job? I just, yeah. Conventional thought being that you don't fire a coach
Starting point is 00:36:20 this late in the season when you're playoff bound because it may disrupt team chemistry. Two teams did it. Yeah, but what if this is actually the best time to do it? Say. Yeah, but what if this is actually the best time to do it? What if this is actually the best time to do it? Why wait for a playoff run that you're not
Starting point is 00:36:32 going to chip anyway? You still got to pan. Yeah. They've been hearing the same voice all year. I really don't understand. For other teams, yeah, if you don't have Nikola Jokic on your team, yeah. Like, okay, we in the play-in game, right?
Starting point is 00:36:57 We in 10th. We in 9th, 10th again. Some shit like that, then okay. Currently fourth in the West right now. They got three games remaining. Let's be honest, with the health of Jamar Murray, man, they're a problem
Starting point is 00:37:13 for anybody to play on any given night. Like we mentioned, Jamar Murray missed the last five games before he got fired. Michael Malone said he would probably be back around playoff time. It was day-to-day. Yeah, but you know, they're probably holding him out. They're trying to still float. Trying to hold him out so he come back healthy.
Starting point is 00:37:30 They don't want him to look like he did last year in the playoff, dragging that leg around. Right? So, yeah, it's nasty work, man. Like, the fire, three games left into the season and you Yeah, if you're not if you're not if you don't have a chance to make the playoff Yeah, that's one thing but you you in it. Yeah, like you are in it like you the worst you can do is Lose these three and be seven like some shit like that. So it's
Starting point is 00:38:01 Yeah, what's what's gonna happen though? Huh? What's the worst that can happen? I mean, I got to win it. The worst thing that happened with the championship thing about who they put who they who they hire. So David Adelman, Rick Adelman son is taking over as interim head coach. He was assistant. Okay, wait, wait. Is that what that's privileged? What is that called? That's that's... Nepotism. Isn't that nepotism? No, he was already... he's been there. Oh. Nothing changes for them. Nothing changes.
Starting point is 00:38:30 They keep going. It's just Mike probably had the energy and wanted to get rid of that energy. It's just like the Missoula situation with E-May in Boston. You know, Joe was there the whole time. He seen what was going down, sat back and watched the shit go down. I dig it. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think Nikola gonna have anything different.
Starting point is 00:38:51 For sure. The hook has entered the arena. Damn good, that's an elaborate hook. Who wouldn't go make it smoking that cigar, I can tell you that shit. You got a digital hooker? What is that? It's that T hooker.
Starting point is 00:39:03 She said it's heating up. Huh? You never had a job at the hookah place. You supposed to do it for us You don't bring us cold hookah. You supposed to already done bring a high rose. Don't Chris a guilt on one today Already question my blackness. Hey, my man said he won one too. There's a white one up there. Oh Hey, we got you Go ahead in the hook. I got another white one to a There's four more boxes look for the white one. Hey Chris fire today. Don't be one of The hill one today don't be you giving out you giving off bad boy executive vibes right Given off you giving off it. Oh, yeah, giving off Giving off go get the baby old vibes man
Starting point is 00:39:48 What is your right now? I'm tell you right now. We won that championship. I guarantee you I'm going to Costco There's about to be a big party around that motherfucker We're gonna have your grandma couches around here's gonna be all goddamn plastic around here, just slipping and sliding. You shouldn't come to work that day. Ladies and gentlemen, an inspired day here in Gilderland. Hey, y'all got some of them, like the Celebration Pops. What is wrong with you guys?
Starting point is 00:40:18 Are y'all not happy? Why am I the only one happy? You know when we boom, like the pow. Hey, come on, y'all. Get in the spirit. We got our balloon. I don't think y'all know, like, what happened. Are y'all not knowing what happened?
Starting point is 00:40:35 What happened, Gil? Huh? What happened? The coach. He was fired? The man who brought life in the team. The man who stuck up for the team. The man who stuck up for the team. The cocky motherfucker that used to talk shit, gone.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Who's your daddy? This is a fake chain I have. Westbrook from LA. Russell Westbrook. Now the LA man running the show. Yeah, he ain't listening to this because I can tell you that's a show. Pop that, yeah, pop that.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Come on, Carolyn, pop it. Come on, pop it. Come on pop it pop it pop get another one You ain't me to write that mom. You gotta get another one. You ain't me to write. You see what happens We put you we put you on the clock and you you damn They're fucking up in the back my air Damn air pod in the back, my airpods. I'm gonna be fucking up in the back. Damn, airpod in the couch. Whoo! Gil got the hookah.
Starting point is 00:41:33 This is how Luka feels, man. That shit's motherfucking bad. When he's at David Buster's, like, the thing. This is how he was in Dallas, man, just... At the hookah lounge. At the Luka lounge. Gil hitting the hookah. Whoo! You got to give a warning.
Starting point is 00:41:54 You got to warn her. You seen her. You seen her twisted. Warn her brother. Warn her brother. That was loud. Oh, man, that was a good celebration, man. That shit was loud. Can we get a moment of silence for Michael Malone, please?
Starting point is 00:42:07 How do I... You think you can do this to me? I hope he took his playbook. Left it at the facility. What else you think they gonna run? I don't know, man, but look... They won a championship running this shit. What you think they finna run? I just have a quick,
Starting point is 00:42:29 now ask them what you think they about to run. I got hurt. Hey, number 15 and number 27. No, I get them two, but I think they gonna boycott. Should they just cancel the season? Why not? Well, word I'm giving you.
Starting point is 00:42:47 This is reminding me of COVID. Big brother just going to go with the flow. This reminds me of COVID. Clippers balling before COVID. Donald Trump shut this shit down. Because you know he a Laker fan. He shut this shit down. And then Lakers, we was the only one practicing.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Everybody else was relaxing. We was practicing for real. When they said we ain't supposed to be in the gym, we was in the gym. Not maintaining six feet distance? Uh-uh, no. We was, we didn't give a fuck about none of that. And then we came back healthy, won the chip. This is what's going on right now. Last time Donald Trump was in office, we won, right? Accurate. It's in the cards.
Starting point is 00:43:34 So let's talk about the- Kendrick Lamar. Yeah. Alba. Super Bowl, right? Los Angeles, native. Dodgers won. Freddie Freeman Grand Slam game one.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Ovechkin just broke the record. Gold's record. I don't know what that has to do with anything. Shout out Ovi. No, because I was in D.C. You got to just parallel. Just put it all together. Rams is right down the street. I mean, everything's lining up man.
Starting point is 00:44:15 All I'm saying is man, the gods is on our side right now. Which gods? The basketball gods, just them LA gods. Mm. Ladies and gentlemen, that is our show for the day. Thank you so much for pulling out. I've been trying to tell you, man. We are going to lunch at Nobu.
Starting point is 00:44:40 No, yeah, we can go. You wanna go to that strip club? What strip club you go to during the day? I go to church. He goes to church? Ooh. During the day. My wife go to church.
Starting point is 00:44:51 You don't know what kind of strippers at church. Hope. Wait, what? Hope works evenings. They sin at night and then ask forgiveness during the day? No, they don't ask for forgiveness during the day, Gilbert. They still sinning. They still?
Starting point is 00:45:10 Laker popcorn. Hell. Look at you see this shit ain't play. Who, Laker popcorn? Look at this. We've been ready for this, man. You can't stop. I think he on the bench, yeah. Oh, hey, that's my good computers
Starting point is 00:45:31 That's my good computer Kenya, I don't know if you know nothing about me What's that purple popcorn, that's gracious. He made me do it. Look. He made me do that. No, I mean, eat it still. I'm telling you, I'm on check. I mean, better to fire Michael Morrow now than to avoid the inevitable? When I heard the music, I said, do it, do it. That music do get you impressed.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Yeah, baby, it was like, yeah, if you don't do it, I'm going to beat your ass. I was like, ah. I was all out. I was like, ah, do it, do it, nigga, do it. Do it too, nigga, do it, I'm gonna beat your ass I'm nonviolent. I'm nonviolent Stanley left his window open This decoration girl you 100% copy wanted the scene to be gold and purple, huh? Are you 100% confident in the Lakers winning the chip? He wanted the scene to be gold and purple. Huh? Are you 100% confident in the Lakers winning the chip?
Starting point is 00:46:28 So you got the trophy already. Yo, you see the trophy here? Hold up, hold up, what's that? Purple popcorn. I've been playing- 7-11. 7-11. That's all nigga rolling.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I've been playing- soon as we got Luka, my whole world became Laker. Oh, man. Soon as that white man came over here. I don't want that. man came over here. Our favorite Caucasian. I'm not celebrating that man losing his job. No, we're not worried about that. We're not celebrating that.
Starting point is 00:46:55 That's the least we can celebrate. That's exactly what we're celebrating. Celebrating white man losing his job. That's exactly what he's celebrating. We got one back. I would fight against that. I agree. I'm going to throw.
Starting point is 00:47:11 I would fight against that. Don't want any more popcorn making its way onto the floor. But back to the Nuggets discussion. Who said I just eat off the floor? I'm going to throw my mouth. So we talked about Michael Malone getting fired. GM Calvin Booth getting fired. So as for Calvin Booth's firing Chris Haynes
Starting point is 00:47:26 reports that the Nuggets and him couldn't reach an extension agreement before the season he was on an expiring contract they treated Calvin
Starting point is 00:47:35 like a player and there's also a report from Kevin O'Connor that both Malone and Booth never liked each other rarely spoke
Starting point is 00:47:44 Malone and Kevin Booth? They didn't fuck with each other, never spoke, talked behind each other's backs. With the team struggling on the courts, Nuggets ownership decided both of y'all's. Both of y'all. Wow. Told you it was a coup. Man, I would have signed that contract. Can y'all work together moving forward?
Starting point is 00:48:03 Probably not. All right, both of y'all go. That's great. That's great. Calvin gave him a bunch of shit he didn't need and didn't want. Yeah. What? On purpose.
Starting point is 00:48:12 He didn't fire fast enough. You want me to draft? Who you want to draft? I'll take Peyton Watson, motherfucker. Absolutely. Well, technically, Peyton Watson was top two in the country. Right? Top two what?
Starting point is 00:48:23 Play in the country. Coming out of high school? Mm-hmm. He did cook Chet Holmgren back in high school. Where he from? Long Beach. Oh, he from Chicago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Went to UCLA, played one season. But you remember, you know UCLA coaches don't play freshmen. And Mick Cronin did not play freshmen. Had to in the tournament.
Starting point is 00:48:36 That's correct. Payton came through. Better start, better start fighting with it. So a lot of promise. But let's talk about the firing. His future. Obviously, Nikola Jokic putting together MVP season, trying to win his fourth MVP in his career. Do you think Joker was consulted about any of these decisions? I don't know if he was consulted but he's gonna go with it.
Starting point is 00:48:58 He's not gonna make us think about it. He's gonna go with the decision. So what I'm hearing so heard they ran it by him, wasn't like they asked him should we or shouldn't we. This is what we're about to do, and how do you feel about it? And as Herbian said, he cool with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:18 So I'm still finna go out and have just triple doubles. We gonna play basketball. Yeah, we gonna hoop, that's what he gonna do. Sloppy and chicken. Yeah, you gotta know who the person is, the personality. So, we'll see. Because other star players around the league when moves like this happen, they get dubbed a coach killer or get blamed for that move.
Starting point is 00:49:41 So just- Because of personality. Okay. And maybe previous stops or multiple head coaches. He's only had one, so... GM Jokic. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, nah, but it's... So we asked the chat,
Starting point is 00:50:03 do you think Jokic was involved in this decision? 60% said no. He just come to, I ain't worried about all this. It's my day job. Man, I come to pass the ball to them and put the ball in the basket, man. That's what I come to hear. I'm not involved with all that stuff, man. But you came to me, if you will.
Starting point is 00:50:20 But we talked about this Nugget Squad winning championship 2023, have kept most of their core, kind of similar roster. I added Westbrook, I added some additional pieces, lost KCP, but have the Nuggets done enough to surround Joker with a championship level roster? In my opinion, no.
Starting point is 00:50:42 You got your core, I think you need to continue to try to get better. Whether it's lack of opportunity from the draft picks that they've picked and free agents that they've signed, I don't know if it's that and you get comfortable with playing your guys so those guys get lost in the fray. Yeah. But... And a guy like Russ helps.
Starting point is 00:51:14 But what else have you done? Extended Jamal Murray, extended MPJ, extended... You guys there. Cool. Yeah. We won with those guys. So, of course, that's low-hanging fruit. That's easy to do. Right? So We won with those guys. So, of course, that's low-hanging fruit. That's easy to do.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Right? So we won with these guys. So we know what they bring to the table. Are you out evaluating the proper talent to help the shooters we need to put in place to help, like, another? DeAndre Jordan is a solid backup, but do we have a younger big just in case this guy needs a break? It's just certain things that I've seen over time that they haven't implemented. And when Jamal Murray is out or if he needs a break, who is your actual number?
Starting point is 00:51:58 Who else can go get a bucket for you? You haven't addressed that issue. So it's some things they haven't done in the front office. But, yeah, to your question, no, I don't think they've done enough. We talked about that in the summer, summer league. I think Michael Porter Jr., some other guys have said this could very well be their last dance if they weren't able to get it done this year. Well, writing on the wall.
Starting point is 00:52:21 Chips are already falling. Dominoes are already falling. Michael Malone out. Calvin Booth out. I mean, this is the best a dollars I've ever spent man Send me a fruit basket. Oh, damn. You got him the good one. Yeah To Josh and stay in Crocky a relationship your colleagues. I respect that you gotta look at Crocky Sports Entertainment Gil ordering fruit baskets But I'm playing not didn't hate it I don't ever doubt you go. I know you what address are you you do not address one thousand choppers
Starting point is 00:53:00 Is the fucking address just just for y'all that know. I was an employee that way. I went to that motherfucker for seven years. So trust me, that is the motherfucking address. Absolutely. You were sending fruit baskets to Stan and Josh Cronk to the Nuggets facility. Oh, shit. I'm happy, man. Lisa Johnson probably is going to handle this so shout out to Lisa
Starting point is 00:53:25 she's been there forever she's a wonderful person purple and gold fruits put it in his mind now oh shit this fool why everybody so sad on the couch
Starting point is 00:53:36 this boy is stupid so we talked recently about Grizzlies firing Taylor Jenkins. You think it's a good move? Hold on. People think this boy just be capping and talking shit. I want them to realize this is like, yeah, you're a special being, dog.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I'm just happy to hear that. You are a special being, man. Or like sending fruit baskets to the Knuckles. World need more people like this dude, man. I'm telling y'all, boy, it'll be a lot better place, man. Or like sending fruit baskets to the Texas Pacific. World need more people like this dude, man. I'm telling y'all, boy, it'll be a lot better place, man. And you overnight won the dollars, too. Hey, man. You don't need to go get one, man.
Starting point is 00:54:15 You probably already sent one. Oh, man. You probably sent him more than a motherfucking fruit basket. Well, we talked about Taylor Jenkins getting fired by the Grizzlies. You think the Grizzlies go ahead and try to snatch up Michael Malone right now? Ain't no telling. He won't be unemployed for long, though. I think we all know that.
Starting point is 00:54:33 They might keep what they have. You never know what these assistants, man, what they bring to the table and what it's going to look like. So, I don't. Steve Nash is up next. Mind the Game Pod co-host. You think he'll get another job? That's gonna be the pipeline.
Starting point is 00:54:50 You gotta be the co-host on Mind the Game to get a job in the league. It's an interview process. What's his name? Adam Silver? That's his name, right? Yeah. Set that up. How's the first situation work out? Very well. With the NBA commissioner. I set that up. How did the first situation work out? Very well. With the Lakers.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Huh? With the Lakers. No, I'm talking about for him. Steve? Mm-hmm. I don't know. Next up. That was prior to
Starting point is 00:55:17 the Co-hosting Mind the Game podcast, though. Mm-hmm. First situation didn't work out. So, I don't think he has the personality to be a head coach. Who? That's's my Steve Nash. Two-time MVP. Give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Didn't earn him. Played well. Wasn't his. When you're on a job interview. Motherfucker averaged 35 points out in this bitch. You better stop it. Fuck this is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:42 You better. Yeah. Yeah. Look up, motherfucker. You hear me over? You son of a bitch. These coaches are getting fired right now. What do you do?
Starting point is 00:55:51 My average is 35. Man. You going on unemployment? No, I'm just saying, as the owner, what's the name? You're firing them right now. You really believe that your assistant coach is going to do a better job than the head coach? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Well, Adam has been there since 2017, so – He has a rapport. He has a rapport with him. But if you're firing Malone to bring in a guy who's been there with him – You bring it in the mother – But you never know, like, so just – you know who – So – Frank Vogt? No, no, so when But you never know, like, so just, you know, so. Spring vote.
Starting point is 00:56:27 No, no, so when I started hearing it, right, so you know the offense that Sacramento ran under his pops. It looks similar to what they're running in Denver, so I'm thinking that this could very well much be his offense. And it's no, right? Yeah. Yeah. His pops had Chris Webb at the elbow, Vladi at the elbow. They ran a lot of split action, a lot of-
Starting point is 00:56:48 Our offense. So it could have been that, right? So I'm thinking, I don't know for facts, but now that it happened, you know, your basketball brain started to try to put pieces together on why and fit and things. And so I'm. Yeah, that'd be, yeah, damn.
Starting point is 00:57:11 See, now that makes, I mean, that actually makes sense because that means Calvin Booth and, because Calvin Booth was in the same offense, right? And probably coach didn't like that offense in a sense. I don't know. Adam and then Calvin Booth came through the same offense so they understand the same thing. Yeah, so I don't know man, but it's alarming.
Starting point is 00:57:34 Well. But I don't. Hey man, we've been on them for 35 minutes. Yeah, I don't. Now y'all don't wanna talk about the Nuggets. What time do we start this? Now y'all don't wanna talk about the Nuggets. I don't wanna,all don't want to talk about what it would look like they done they ghost now y'all it cut both the nuggets They cooked are they cooked cooked?
Starting point is 00:57:54 Well done, huh? You know the chatter intrigued by this conversation watching barbecued tee out the hookah Championship trophy watching can youyon. Nosy barbecue. Like, I'm barbecuing and watching the fight. Meaning this shit burned. Cooked. He's out of there. Where's the Laker talk?
Starting point is 00:58:14 Like, I need to. Does anybody. Can y'all ask the underdog, like, what is, what, what just the probability of Lakers winning now? I know it had to jump. It had to. Like, I'm just, just being honest. It had to jump. It had to. Like, I'm just being honest. It had to jump up a little bit. I actually went down.
Starting point is 00:58:32 Cap. So, you don't want to talk Nuggets anymore, let's talk Clippers. Clippers currently the fifth seed. Nuggets are the fourth seed. Who wins in that series? If they play right now? It's a 4-5 matchup. 4-5. Man, I'm... Evita Zubac has been playing
Starting point is 00:58:53 well this year. Yeah. I would hate that for him. Hmm. Hey. That's a confidence killer. What? Hey, you play... You had the best season of your career, and your reward is Nicole Yoko's in the first round.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Shit me. I'd take that challenge. Huh? Okay. I would, too. Shasher diamonds. Huh? Oh, okay. Yeah, I would too. Shasher diamonds. If you can, they all got no choice.
Starting point is 00:59:28 I would take that challenge if I was him because you see that if that's the matchup, my other guys got to figure out how to offset Joker, James and Kawhi. Good luck. I'm gonna pick up the points in assists. Pick up the points in defense in the three point shooting. Then we got Norm Powell coming off the bench and we. Pick up the points in defense and the three point shooting. Then we got Norm Powell coming off the bench and we can take them down. We can take them down
Starting point is 00:59:50 easy. But we just need Zubac just to be in the way. Yeah, Joker gonna get his. We already know that. But we talking about neutralizing the other guys. The Clippers probably the most dangerous for the Denver Nuggets. Because Zubac is the only big body that actually knows how to guard him.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Can't really stop him, but actually he's big enough to just be in the way. A.K.A. Zubach. A little bit. Ben Simmons. He can move on the outside. They can switch that. Switch that. Yeah, that's a...
Starting point is 01:00:19 So we asked the chat who wins the seven-game series. It's a dangerous matchup. When he's out of the game, what happens? Kawhi is, they don't have nobody to guard Kawhi. Like, that's the thing. With Joker out of the game, what are you doing? Yeah, they don't have nobody to guard Kawhi. Let's say, like, if Joker's, if you put Ben Simmons in.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Yeah. Jokic have to guard Ben Simmons at the point guard position. But then he gets to relax on others so that- Well, if Zubac guard him- So the thing is- If we guard him up here- It's give and take. If we guard him on the pick and roll, right? If it's, you saying Ben and Joker. Give and take.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Or are you saying Ben and Zubac is guarding Murray and Joker? No, I'm just saying when Zubac goes in- Like when Zubac goes in and then Ben is at the point. You put Ben at the five and now Ben is the point. So my question is that switch, are they going to switch that pick and roll regardless?
Starting point is 01:01:16 So we're not just going to guard Joker in the post, head up with Ben Simmons. If they do put, then he don't really have to guard Ben now he's roaming and but it's hard but it's hard when your big man is sitting in the lane when Ben Simmons has the ball yeah but he ain't gonna shoot it so who gives a but when you when you say I think he has the play are you saying he should be greener should he be like you bring the ball up pass and screen
Starting point is 01:01:43 while he's sitting in the lane you You can do a lot of damage. But if he's sitting in the lane when he has the ball, the damage is not going to be done because he can sit back. No, no, no. Let him sit back. Dribble handoff. Dribble handoff to Kawhi Leonard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:53 James Harden. Make Joker come out. Yeah, but he's going to have that. Well, they'll have special assignment. He's not going to sit back and play. He can't. Not with James Harden. Yeah, because the dribble handoff is all that shit.
Starting point is 01:02:04 He's not going to do that. But that's. If they don and play. He can't. Not with James Harden. Yeah, because he's dropping handoffs and all that shit. He's not gonna do that. But that's... If they don't put the ball in his hand and he got him out there just screening and then he could play off and be in the way and... And then the pick and roll. The pick and slot pop right there.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Making a play for everybody else. You gotta float that bitch. You gotta shoot it. That'd be a good series. It would be. So right now we ask the chat, who wins in a seven-game series? 53% of the chat picked...
Starting point is 01:02:31 The Clippers. The Los Angeles Clippers to win. No, that's a good bump. All right, well, let's keep this thing moving. With healthy Jamal Murray, I think, yeah. It'll be a great series. It'll be a great... With a healthy Jamal Murray,
Starting point is 01:02:42 because James wouldn't... It'll offset what James had doing a little cuz James wouldn't James it offset with James doing a little bit and then it would be Michael Porter Kawhi and Michael would have to play an excellent series. Aaron Gordon have to guard him. That's he did. He did. He did.
Starting point is 01:02:56 He did. Peyton Watson after after guard Kawhi. Norm Powell though off the bench. Yeah, that's the Christian Brown. He get here. No power game fits. Yes. And I think you got none still over there. You don't get him.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Yeah, he's defense. And they got wasn't on the shooter, right? Shamit. No, my body. Body. Body. Body. Body.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Body. Body. Board. Yeah, so I forgot they. That's it. Now that's it. And they seem like they're clicking over there. That's a tough series. They're clicking right now. That's a tough series.
Starting point is 01:03:27 That's a tough series for anybody. Yeah, they got a lot of scores. They're clicking right now. It's like, they're like, shit. But they have to do something. They gotta get second round better. They can't afford to do nothing after that. They have to.
Starting point is 01:03:42 What the hell, cuz they held Kawhi out and they did all this for this, right? Yeah, I read a PG didn't pay him. You know, but they you've been not he wasn't healthy last year's playoffs. So it was this build up not playing in the Olympics sitting out the first half of the season. Many restrictions like this is the time, right? We're expecting for them to at least get out the first round and make some type of noise. We're going to talk about the Clippers a little bit later in the show,
Starting point is 01:04:15 but let's keep this thing moving. Got to talk a little college hoops and NBA-related topics. Florida Gators defeated the Houston Cougars to win the natty last night in San Antonio. One notable Spurs player who was spotted there hanging out with a legend of the game was Spurs center Victor Wimby Yama. You see him seated next to Hall of Famer Hakeem Olajuwon. Ample leg room.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Shout out Wimby. Hakeem is a Houston alum who also won two titles, two finals MVPs for the Rockets after being drafted first overall in 1984 ahead of Michael Jordan. So we know Wimby's missing the entire second half of this regular season as he recovers from a blood clot in his right shoulder. Spurs remain optimistic about his chances to make a full recovery ahead of next season. So we all know Hakeem trains players in the offseason
Starting point is 01:04:58 for a small fee of $50,000. Yeah. Y'all damn stupid. I received his hookah-lookah. I'm interested to try this. I also received his hookah-lookah. I'm interested to try. You say this is tea. Smoking tea.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Yeah. But like I mentioned, Wimby sitting with Hakeem at the Natty game last night. Hakeem trains players in the offseason for the small fee of $50,000.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Again, you've had some thoughts on Hakeem training players previously. Should Wimby work out with Hakeem in the offseason? Yes. You believe that
Starting point is 01:05:41 Victor Wimby Yama should work out with Hakeem Olajuwon? Yes. That's surprising. No, no, because Wimby Yama should work out with Hakeem Olajuwon? Yes. That's surprising. No, no, because Wimby actually has footwork, right? He already has the footwork to work out with Hakeem, right? This is the real problem.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Hakeem learned his footwork from soccer, right? So what comes to him naturally, he gained it when he was a little kid. Right. So when he's teaching these really high athletes, he don't remember the basics that like. So if you're Hakeem, what you want to do is for all these high jumping motherfuckers who don't have footwork, teach them the footwork first before you're trying to give them these moves. Winby has the footwork. So everything you're teaching him, he will understand how to not make it a travel and actually learn how to do it in the game. Right?
Starting point is 01:06:29 So that's the thing. It's like Melo doing it, fine. Kobe doing it, fine. You're trying to teach LeBron James, Amari, Stoudemire, all these really high jumping dudes who don't have the basic footwork and they just use athleticism, it will hurt them in this workout because they're not going to know the understanding of, I've got to drop the ball first before I take the step. So I'm doing the same thing you're doing,
Starting point is 01:06:50 but I'm doing two steps. I'm doing a hop step, right? So it's usually the fundamentals, and he's not teaching the fundamentals to these pros that need the fundamentals first. So I wouldn't have him work out with, you know, the Giannis, but I have him work out with him. He can work out with him, Lucas, the Giannis, but I have him work out with him.
Starting point is 01:07:05 He can work out with him, Lucas, Shea, Jokic, those guys that work well with his footwork already. I hear you. Yes. My pause is
Starting point is 01:07:25 with today's game, right? And the evolution of the Euro step, the same hand, same leg, all that shit, right? He's doing all that already. So what what more can, because like you said, he has the footwork. If he's doing all those things already, that is today's game. He already is doing an up and under.
Starting point is 01:08:04 You can already, because he doesn't, he don't need to do a fucking dream shake. He can just turn and shoot. Who's dream shake. He can just turn and shoot. Who's blocking it? He can just turn and shoot over anybody. Right? I don't have to trick you. Right? Boom, boom, simple, motherfucking left shoulder jump hook.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Who's like, so my thing, yeah, if it's a more, like you said, a less athletic guy more like you said, a less athletic guy like you said, but he's still, for 7'5", he's still athletic. 7'4", 7' whatever, he's still athletic for his size. A less Alpine Sangoon? Good footwork already, but he can benefit
Starting point is 01:08:41 from working with Dream, right? Just a few more tricks, shit like that. Because Dream wasn't that athletic he was He was fast fast. He was fast fast in the mountain a lot of the bigs He was playing against because the lot of them dudes fucking land love a lot of them dudes were stiffs So he had to use his size and quickness like me playing against a lot of fours and fives and my I'm quicker than y'all So I'm gonna face you up. I'm not certain guys, I'm gonna boom boom if I need to to get to this but I'm quick and also I'm gonna face you up.
Starting point is 01:09:11 And I see that in Wimby, he gonna face a lot of guys up because he has proper footwork. So you think Wimby would benefit from working out with Akeem Olajuwon? Where came Elijah one? Really? He's an alien. I think the benefit of mentorship is one thing more than showing him moves and all that kind of stuff. Just teaching him about what to expect from the game, how to read defenses. Okay. Probably help him a little bit on the defensive end.
Starting point is 01:09:59 I think that was dreams more of a forte than anything was his defense and how he timed blocks and running the floor and sealing and setting up your fadeaway, certain things like that. I think the footwork and all that, people go down there and they expect to get what you're seeing from the person that you want to learn from, but it all starts with the foundation. Like I was saying before, when you get down there, you got to have some type of agility of knowing how to make these moves.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Amar was one of those guys who didn't have that footwork, and when he got a little bit of it, you could see it. He was like, oh, shit, now he's getting to his shit off the spin or he's doing the jab. So I think Wimby, once he needs that, he goes to it. I don't think he need it right now. I think he's going to kill right now with what he has. And then when he gets down and he starts to it. I don't think he need it right now. I think he's going to kill right now with what he has. And then when he gets down and he starts to see
Starting point is 01:10:47 that he needs to put more into his game, then you go do that. Yeah, I hear you, but you can't learn shit. You ain't got to go outside your building if you need mentorship and learn how to get it done and be certain things. And the motherfucker who got five. You got it right there.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Got five of them motherfuckers. And he was excellent on the defensive end as well. So another question for you guys. Wimby averaged 24-11 rebounds, four blocks this season. Damn. Was shooting close to 19 field goal attempts, but close to nine three-point attempts per game. That's too many.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Talk about legendary big men. Obviously, Kareem with the skyhook, probably one of the most unstoppable moves in NBA history. Would Wimby benefit from learning the sky hook or does he even need it considering how much more he has in his game with the long range shooting? That's a tough move to learn and to perfect.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Did he have the sky hook in college and high school? I think he started working on it in college, not as much, but once he got to the league. I go to more of a jump hook, a traditional jump hook. Yeah, I think the jump hook is with that length. Because that wingspan, like... Why? Because face up, turn face, jab, shot.
Starting point is 01:11:57 All of it, but if you need it, so this is the thing. All that shit is great, but when you need a bucket, right? Turn face, jab, jumper. But no, that ain't... That's a cop-out. That's a cop-out. I'm a great shooter.
Starting point is 01:12:13 So it's boom, get the block, and motherfucking jump hook over that left shoulder. That's a foul. And that's a double team because you know we're coming on the bounce. So I catch, face, read the double team. Catch, face, read the double. If you niggas don't come hand down man down hand down man down more diverse offensive Arsenal than Kareem. Yeah, a hundred percent. But when you can
Starting point is 01:12:35 shoot the ball and you limit it, you need that. It's not limited but I would think more of a jump hook than a sky. Yeah, right. A hundred percent. It's like you said that sky hook. I mean, we really haven't seen it since. Like, that's a hard shot for a master. Because I'm pretty sure they didn't try to teach it
Starting point is 01:12:49 to some guys, and it's, that motherfucker, you going up there being just hitting the backboard every time. Back of the rim every time. Right?
Starting point is 01:12:57 Hitting the back of the rim and the backboard before it's, now that's, like, you can really think you practicing that shit right, and it's just, you,
Starting point is 01:13:05 that's a hell of a thing to try to like the bank shot right you got a Yeah And he had the gentleman in the facility that I think he'd be benefit from that shit more than anything See, I don't trust that bitch off the glass. I don't trust the old I don't trust the oldies when they be talking about what was good. So I'm trying to figure out what was actually his shooting percentage on the skyhook itself. On Kareem's?
Starting point is 01:13:33 But you go back and watch old games. Yeah, that's cool. I want to see what his percentage was on just the skyhook itself. Yeah, well, I think he'll benefit from facing up. Like you said, facing up and shooting that bitch off the glass. Like, that shot for him, right? All day long. That's money. Yeah, well I think he'll benefit from facing up like you said shot facing up and shooting that bitch off the glass like that's That shot for him day right long. That's money ain't nobody doing nothing As soon as he can't like Zeebo you should do to the kids face jab. You ain't doing nothing shoot it Ain't nobody getting to it. So you push up on me. I'm still thin you got it
Starting point is 01:14:00 Either found me or let me go and that's one dribble dunk from where I'm at So he has an arsenal of a one two three and the thing is he's so light in his ass he gonna get pushed off his spotter if you if you try he'll be trying to push off his spot like he's wasting dribbles him trying to post you up and I'm upset him just trying to get position that part you want to turn or draw anything he gonna get pushed off his spot so to your point he's he's always going to face or draw anything, he's going to get pushed off his spot. So, to your point, he's always going to face up. Yep. Right?
Starting point is 01:14:27 Because he's not going to be in block position to even do that. He can never get to it, take one dribble, open you up, then go back to it. Yeah. He's going to have to do that. Like, Doom face you up. Like, he's going to go by you to get you to retreat a little bit. That's like five dribbles. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:41 But it's, right, that's all I'm saying. But it's, you got to play that game. If he can do crab dribbles, you get a couple crab dribbles. Yeah, when you light, there ain's, right, that's all I'm saying. But it's, you got to play that game. If he can do crab dribbles, you get a couple crab dribbles. Yeah, when you light, ain't no crab dribble for him. Not for him at all. Seven-five shit. Like, I mean, I guess Joel Embiid probably do it the best, but I don't even understand why people still post up
Starting point is 01:15:02 in the sense of you trying to back somebody down to the basket when if you're skilled enough, why won't you post up? I mean, face up. Because defensively, if you have your back to me, I get to touch you. They're not playing defense like that no more, Gil. Oh, just whatever? Yeah, they ain't doing that, Gil. But when I face you, you're not allowed to put your hands on me.
Starting point is 01:15:21 Gil, these motherfuckers playing post defense like with they fucking chest So you can literally if you were good enough That's the bullshit Dog they let this in dog You can you can literally Joker is having a field day on them shoulders Man he getting everything Why you think that is always two feet in the paint
Starting point is 01:15:43 Man Them motherfuckers playing post D with they chest and no resistance if you had this somebody was They just not doing it it's still allowed I asked nobody's getting away from me Still allowed bit. Yeah, it is still allowed. Nobody should be moving if you can do this. Dude. Literally. I showed them. We was in STK. I stood Walker Castle up in STK and showed them this.
Starting point is 01:16:15 You need to play, grab motherfucker's side. And hold his ass on the other side. I'm showing them this shit in the middle of STK. You could be better, man. More important than that steak. In the middle of it. In the middle. In the middle. More important than that steak.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Put the steak down. Put the steak down. I'm listening to Pat Bell the other day. He talking about he used to grab people's side. I used to do the same thing in the post, dog. I got my hand on your baby, whatever the size. So this is free game, bigs. Whoever playing post, I'm finna give you some shit that please use it.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Whoever playing post D, it ain't just bigs. Stop playing post, I'm finna give you some shit that, please use it. Whoever playing post D, it ain't just bigs. Stop playing post D with your chest. You're at a disadvantage. You are entitled to that space as the offensive player. You don't have to give ground. You just can't fucking lunge him off his spot. You don't have
Starting point is 01:17:00 to move if he's trying to back you down. Hold your ground. He try to fucking fall. It's a charge. Like use what you have. You got both of these motherfuckers. You just can't have two hands in his back. That's a file. This is a file. Bent. Whatever hand you want to use here and here is legal. You want to switch it? It's legal. If he on the right box don't have this on the baseline side, he going to fucking spin off of you.
Starting point is 01:17:32 You ain't got no balance. You're going to fall forward. That's the reason for doing it. If you're guarding Alphine Sangoon, he's doing it every time. He's trying to feel that way. He's spinning. Bump you, bump you, spin. Bump you, spin. He feel you before the dribble. He's going to feel that weird thing. He's feeling your arm. He's spinning. Bump you, bump you, spin. Bump you, spin.
Starting point is 01:17:47 He feel you before the dribble. He's going to spin. You got this on the baseline side. He kicking y'all ass doing it. Night in, night out. And you can block him when he's turning. You can lock him with your arm. I'm holding you here. The baseline side.
Starting point is 01:18:03 You go to move, I feel you twitch. I can feel your movements. Stop playing, you fucking, that's why your mother fucker getting hook dunk on. Boom, you in the paint. That's why Nikola averaging fucking 30. You playing post D with your chest. No resistance.
Starting point is 01:18:22 No resistance whatsoever. Okay, when did you regret pulling the chair on dudes? How did you time that out and when did you know when to do that? Could people as y'all think of me on this couch as a distinguished gentleman just aggressive at all fucking times and I'm just finna be wrestling with you out
Starting point is 01:18:38 this bitch and I'm smarter than you. Right? I'm gonna tell you the case of the day. Dude, I might come out the first half dog and I'm fighting the hell out case of the day dude I might come out the first half dog and I'm fighting the hell out of you all your possessions
Starting point is 01:18:49 I'm and the first time you touch that bitch in the third quarter I'm moving I'm gonna fight you fight you and people think
Starting point is 01:18:59 you pull a chair you need to literally pull a chair people get fired they pull their waist no just be aggressive with it. Pride kick in. Ego kick in.
Starting point is 01:19:11 I'm stronger than you. You want to prove you stronger than me. I'm going to let you. I'm going to let you prove you stronger than me. Yeah, but I'm smarter than you, so cool. You can be stronger than me all you want. But watch you fall and laugh at you, right? While you trying to catch and dribble that bitch
Starting point is 01:19:28 while you stumbling and pass the motherfucker out, all that, yeah, so, yeah, I'm gonna pull the chair guy. Like, cause you gotta make guys think, man. When they got the ball, you gotta make them think. I'm not just gonna let you face me up, jab, jab, without me reaching at the ball, trying to knock it out your hand. You back me down, I'm reaching at the ball, trying to knock it out your hand. You back me down.
Starting point is 01:19:45 I'm reaching at the ball. I'm playing post-D here. I'm reaching here. I'm reaching there. You face me up. No, you're not finished. Listen, you're going to have to be excellent in your craft with that ball around me.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Just what it is, man. My bad. No, no, no. What you're saying is there shouldn't be anybody that should spin baseline on you. If you look at ref positions, your right hand on that side, I can do whatever the fuck I want to do.
Starting point is 01:20:17 I can fucking dig my hand in this motherfucker's hip, grip it, because the ref is there, there at the half court, and the ref that's on the baseline, he can see my back. So if I'm gripping here, he's behind me. So if you're on the baseline, I can really
Starting point is 01:20:38 fuck this motherfucker. I can just grab and hold right here so he can't spin because the referee is not on this side of me. He's on the opposite side, so he's back behind. So I can really play without him spinning on me. And now I'm forcing you to go middle. Yeah, I'm forcing you to go middle.
Starting point is 01:20:56 Now I win. Yep. Right block. I'm playing left hand, right elbow. And I'm forcing him to think that he can use this elbow lock to go baseline and I move and I slide. And I know I got help the baseline baseline side so he has to he has to hammer pass if he goes baseline.
Starting point is 01:21:15 But most of the time I feel like if I did opposite, he has more of advantage of going middle than anything. That's where you're. No, I don't wanna go middle cuz that's where your help is. No, I don't want cuz go middle. That's where your help is. No, I don't want, because then help comes and he kicks it to the three-point shooter. He goes middle. So baseline is the best form of rotation
Starting point is 01:21:34 because now I got my crackdown. If Kenyon's on my backside and he got me on the right block, Kenyon is either going to be left block help or he's going to be left elbow help, whichever he's at. I'm forcing baseline because we got one form of defense, which is this this little layup on the right side of the room.
Starting point is 01:21:53 So he has to pass to the corner. He go middle. He can kick to the wing. He can kick. He is open. Anybody who played me anybody who played me like this on the right side. I'm up and under and on this arm right here. See I'm on this one. This one right here. On this one right here.
Starting point is 01:22:06 See, my thing, I want you to go middle. Because you're holding here and you can't go. For me, you've got to go middle. I want to strip you. So you're holding me from going baseline. You're gripping. So you feel me there, right? You feel me there.
Starting point is 01:22:19 So you get ready to make your move. I let go. You get ready to go again. I grab you again. So now I force you to go. If you make your move. I let go you get ready to go again. I grab you again, right? My thing you know, I'm sure middle His only form of defense is to hit you with the elbow when when he goes middle on the right No, he has his open hand me some saying no He said he has no he has the base so he's so he's gripping baseline him then he has this one
Starting point is 01:22:39 He's all it is. But as soon as you get ready to go out with this I'm tripping up I'm sending you guys if you got ducked out. If you got, if Nikola got you on the right block, you got your offhand. If he's on the right block. He's on the right block. Right block. My left hand's on the baseline. Oh, wait. No, right block.
Starting point is 01:22:58 Which way are we? So, the basket behind me. Is he going middle for a left-hand jump hook? No, right hand. Right hand jump hook? Right hand. I got my right hand on the baseline. On the baseline.
Starting point is 01:23:07 And so you're doing this? I'm playing with it. Depends on what it is. I'm going to fight him initially. My right hand is here. So this is what I'm saying. So when he catch it, are you here?
Starting point is 01:23:14 On the catch? It depends. No, on the catch? No. If he starts trying to back me down, maybe. That's what I'm saying. If he tries to back you down,
Starting point is 01:23:22 I'm not playing you the same way with possession. So with dispossession, I got here. When you got the ball, And you're here. Right. So what I'm saying is if he starts dribb tried to back you down, I'm not here. I'm not playing you the same way with possession. So, dispossession, I got here. When you got the ball, I'm here. And you're here. Right. So, what I'm saying is if he starts dribbling to back you down.
Starting point is 01:23:29 I let go. So, you opening up. No, I'm not letting go. I'm not going here. Listen, I'm touching you, dog. Listen, you start backing down. I'm boom, boom. I'm reaching for the ball.
Starting point is 01:23:39 So, I'm here. You ain't. I'm stealing the ball. So, you hitting. I'm stealing the ball. So, you're not playing this defense, though. And once you start dribbling, it's a live action. So you're saying before the dribble, upon the catch, you're here.
Starting point is 01:23:54 Yeah, absolutely. So my only move is to either turn on you, dribble. He wants you to go middle. He wants me to go middle. That's where you help him. So when I turn middle, you hands off and you're trying to beat me. Are you trying to strip? I'm stripping.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Okay, so you're coming down with the left hand. I'm stripping and contesting. So yeah, because you got your right hand. I'm stripping and contesting. All in one possession. Okay, so you're coming down left hand still here. So you're still in front. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:21 So by this time, you didn't listen. You fucking mentally exhausted. Well, now I want to see what you want to do. I want to see what you're going to do first. I would love to play. You're going to, you're going to, you're going to literally, if you're forcing me to go middle, I'm going to see what you're going to let me do. Yeah. So if you let me do this and then you hit, now I know you're a reacher. Oh, he likes to reach now. Now I got to protect this bitch and just go to my shit. So now if I just turn and face. That's your best bet. That's the only bet. Cause now I know how you, bitch and just go to my shit. So now if I just turn and face. That's your best bet.
Starting point is 01:24:46 That's the only bet because now I know how you waiting for me to put the, so you can. See, and then you said the thing, the advantage I had was a lot of bigs that you're not going by me. Right. So that was my advantage, right? So I could play you however I had a foot speed advantage. You can get up in. A lot of people I had a foot speed advantage against that I played against, especially big. So I could do what I wanted to, and I could still catch a move.
Starting point is 01:25:12 Mm-hmm. Right? Some guys. And get to the top. Right? Yeah, yeah. So now you got all these things to worry about. Just say, like, when I played KG.
Starting point is 01:25:20 Everybody, excellent, right? He, boom, boom, boom, he want to go here. Yep, yep, yep. Right hand, right shoulder. He want to go right shoulder. Every time. Boom, boom, he want to go here yeah right hand right you want to go right shoulder every time boom boom he want to go there he know with me he already shoot it high he got to start his turn yep over here because if you wait you turn with that ball to get to your shot right here i'm getting it what. What 1,000, I'm going to get your arm, your hand, I'm going to get some part of what
Starting point is 01:25:48 you're trying to do in your shot. So with him, he got all ready to be in his shit when he's because he already shoot it high. He ain't got no up and under from that. He's going to go to it. He's going to fake it and come back and let him show the jump hook. Once he know I'm there, once he see me,
Starting point is 01:26:03 because as soon as you you go my hand is already Boom boom he go and he coming back here, right? I Can time it he taller than me, but I could time that cuz I know I've made you go this way now Yep, and right now is that this is dissipating in a read at that point for his woohoo You know I'm saying so Z-Bone right Z-BBowl. So with Z-Bowl, I'm finished. This is Z-Bowl gave a lot of people fits in his league. They let him do what he
Starting point is 01:26:33 I gave Z-Bowl one way to go. You got to go right dog with me. You got to go right him. You're too good. I'm not going you have to go this way He's gonna get to that Right I'm making him face me up the shoe That's what changed his whole game to I'm making him do that if he makes that on me. I will and you I'm contestant because you
Starting point is 01:27:03 Excellent on that block Hall of Fame career, all that. But he wasn't stronger than me, more athletic than me, and he wasn't going to bully me. Now you got to do something that I want you to do. You might make that motherfucker. You might get to your every now and again because you're really good. But more than likely, I'm making you put that ball in your right hand if I'm guarding him. Al Jefferson told me, listen, man, I'd be busting these dudes' ass in this league, dog. I never got the best of you.
Starting point is 01:27:30 And I said, you never will. All right. Because I know you go all right. You cannot go left. You cannot go left. Before the game, we're doing the scouting. I'm like, man, Al ain't got no fucking left blinker in his car. At all.
Starting point is 01:27:42 He don't even look left. He don't even look left. He don't even look left. Both of his eyes work right. He used to say, all right now. And I ain't never went for this shit. Right. I ain't never went for it. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Deadly. Deadly. I'm watching him on film leading up to the game. He bugged everybody for it. Everybody. And I'm never going for it. LaMarcus Archer told me the same shit. Listen, man, I'm giving these dudes no L.A. I'm not going for it.
Starting point is 01:28:10 You are really good. Yep. I'm studying you, dude. I'm studying your tendencies, your moves, what you want to go right, you're going to have to choose this left. I know you can make it, but this left shoulder jump hook, you're going to have to perfect this bitch against me, dog, because I know your money is going here.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Yep. All day. All day. So this is the things that when I talk this defense shit and I talk things people off guard had to do and study and all that. I really did this, man. Like, had to study. Then not only that, in one game, I got to go guard Antoine Jameson. I got to go fucking chase this motherfucker around on the perimeter.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Right? Switch. Got to switch at the pick and roll. I'm calling the switch. I got to go guard Antoine Jameson. I got to go fucking chase this motherfucker around on the perimeter. Right? Switch. Got to switch at the pick and roll. I'm calling the switch. He ain't. I got him. I got him. I got it.
Starting point is 01:28:51 It's me. Now I got to do what he want to do, right? So he want to run at me. He going to make me back up. And he want to shoot that bitch. He going to want to shoot it. Stay close to him. I'm going to stay far.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Stay close to him. I'm going to grab the shit out of him. Grab him. Send him to Gamby. Hey, Marcus. Hey, Street. Here he comes. We got him. First, he got to get it overi. Hey, Marcus. We got him. First, you got to get it over with me.
Starting point is 01:29:09 We got him. Because if I'm going to contest it too, and the MC back there, then Nene taking charges, Eddie taking charges. So it's like, hey. All you got to do is stay down. Stay down on the pump fake. He can try to get you in there.
Starting point is 01:29:20 He's going to get the foul. He's going to try to bait you. Just stay. Don't foul him. That's also, but no, this is, but, yeah. It's how it go. Game is the game. Let's keep this thing moving.
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Starting point is 01:31:58 arena to get the plug alright so let's talk a little bit more NCAA tournament come and gone for this year but one of the final four teams used experience to get the plug. All right, so let's talk a little bit more NCAA tournament. Come and gone for this year, but one of the final four teams used experience to get them there.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Here's a crazy stat from Whistle Sports. So, Auburn's basketball lineup is older than five NBA teams, Wizards, Jazz, Raptors, Blazers, and Hawks. In fact, at an average age of 23.2 years old, Auburn's starting five is only one year younger than the average age of the Thunder's starting five, which is 24.4 years old, number one team in the NBA.
Starting point is 01:32:34 So Auburn started five players ranging from age 22 to 25. The success of the Tigers this season and during the NCAA tournament has not translated to draft projections, though, as only one starter is projected as a late first-round pick in senior big man Jani Broome. He was SEC Player of the Year, and yesterday Charles Barkley, who's also an Auburn alum, called Broome the greatest player in the school's history. The only other potential late first-rounder is six-man 19-year-old freshman guard
Starting point is 01:33:02 Tahad Pettiford, who declared for the draft, but did not sign with an agent to maintain his college eligibility. Shad, we saw you covering the tournament the entire time with the legend Jim Hill, CBS Sports LA, Morongo, y'all were at, what, Cosm last night? Y'all was all over the place, doing your thing.
Starting point is 01:33:20 How come Auburn's final four run isn't leading to higher draft projections amongst their starting five crew? I don't know, man. I'm not here to talk about the runner-ups or the second place team or Chuck's favorite team. The team
Starting point is 01:33:35 I wanted to win won. That's all. Who? Go back to school, man. They can't. I mean, they've shit they exhausted daytime Van Wilder it's just fuck it's that new age NBA shit man yeah it is like drafting young and dudes don't know how to play basketball so I'm a firm believer in you guys thinking it's just me. I'm biased, right?
Starting point is 01:34:09 These two three you learn how to play basketball man. You learn and you learn to work on your deficiencies. Some some are exceptions to these rules and yeah, you got certain guys, but the masses and teams would teams would benefit from not having six 19 year old 20 year olds on your roster at once. That's my opinion. And they all know each other. They all refuse to be students of the game. Like a guy like Walter Clayton, he knows what it feels like to be double teamed in a high-pressure moment where the whole team's whole focus
Starting point is 01:34:58 is to take the ball out your hands. So he's going to be prepared regardless. Regardless, when he gets to the league, he gonna be prepared. Gil, see you on the couch right now doing your J.R. Smith as promised. What happened? The hookah, the Kelsey Plum cigars, champagne, fruit baskets sent to the Nuggets facility. Hey, man.
Starting point is 01:35:23 For standing Josh Cronky. Gil, low key Loki tatted up. I'm sorry. I'm lost. What are we talking about? Talking about how Auburn's crew, 23.2-year-old, average age of their starting five. Oh, the G League team.
Starting point is 01:35:37 He's not translating to higher draft projections considering their tournament run. Shot said he didn't care about losers. He wanted to talk about. You know, they got paid more than a G League team, though. Their salary cap was $8 million. They paid $8 million for that team. Auburn, and not to win it.
Starting point is 01:35:58 $500,000 for a dude who ain't played many minutes after the fourth game. If they paying that kind of money for old heads, hey, man, stay in school, dog. They are. Stay in school, man. 24, 25, that's an easy lick right now because them coaches ain't,
Starting point is 01:36:17 most of them coaches ain't looking for youngins right now, unless you're a 5'5 star. Other than that, they'd rather pay a 25, 26-year-old a million dollars because he's steady. that, they'd rather pay a 25, 26 year old, you know, a million dollars because he's steady. So if you're old, you got eligibility, take your ass back to college.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Because my job as a college coach is predicated on wins and losses, right? I can't depend on a bunch of freshmen year in and year out. I'm going to lose my job if I have to depend on freshmen year in and year out if I'm not at Kentucky or Duke.
Starting point is 01:36:49 I'm going to lose my job. So I need guys who I can depend on, who are going to do exactly what I ask of them. That's just what, yeah, upperclassmen, man. It ain't a new formula. Yeah. It's been the formula for college basketball. Certain schools and certain players are exceptions to these things, but for the most part, guys, they coaches playing upperclassmen, man. You gotta really stand out as a freshman to play.
Starting point is 01:37:22 People wonder why Mick Cronin not playing freshman at UCLA. Wins and losses. Wins and losses matter. If I'm playing a bunch of freshmen every year, I'm going to have 19 wins and 17 losses. God damn it, I need that motherfucker to be 27 and 5. For what we do in the tournament, we make the tournament, lose in the first round, I keep my job. Make the tournament, lose in the second round, I keep my job. It's the not making the tournament is the issue
Starting point is 01:37:55 with college, so. And that's, you gotta have guys you can depend on. Rick Pitino didn't come back to coach a bunch of fucking freshmen. Lose, ain't coaching them. Trust me. Kevin Sampson wouldn't be still coaching Houston if he had to coach a bunch of freshmen. And we saw Duke take that young crew.
Starting point is 01:38:17 You can sprinkle them in there. Amen. I'm like Nick Young, man. This conversation ain't about Luka, man. So, look. Holler at me when we start talking about Luka. I'm out. Gil dragging his mic.
Starting point is 01:38:35 His mic is... He drunk. Gil inebriated. Has taken a seat on his plush. This is just happening when the Luka when the Laker Luka start talking, okay? No Laker Luka on the agenda for the show today.
Starting point is 01:38:54 They do play tonight. So he's asleep. You make time for Luka. He's asleep. Our next topic, Luka Doncic. We talked about that Auburn crew. Broome, only player amongst that that's projected to be a high draft projection besides the sixth man.
Starting point is 01:39:09 But then you talk about Walter Clayton Jr., what he did in the tournament this year. Impressive run. Named most outstanding player in helping lead Florida to the natty. First player since Larry Bird in 1979 to drop 30 or more in consecutive Elite Eight and Final Four games. Cooled off in the natty game a little bit. He was scoreless the first 25 minutes. Delivered in the second half, 11 points, five rebounds, seven assists.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Clayton Jr. currently projected as a late first-round pick. He was second round only a few weeks ago, but it's kind of jumped. But do you think he played his way into a better draft position? Absolutely. I mean, what he was able to do yesterday, watching in real time, was as a scorer, you start to get denied the ball and certain things like that. You take yourself out of the equation and you become a decoy because you got to figure out what the scheme is. And I think the first half he was trying to figure out how to be effective inside whatever scheme they were using.
Starting point is 01:40:02 And so second half he came out. I think the coach adjustment was you're going to have to be the facilitator. It's going to open you up. So he started making a couple passes, a couple assists, and opened up his game so he can get some big buckets. I think with him, he made a great defensive play down the stretch that really sealed the deal because if dude was really paying attention, it's a pump fake, one dribble pull-up. But he was late.
Starting point is 01:40:27 Walter Clayton was late on the closeout, so he was able to actually get there to get a clean defensive stop. I liked everything he brought to the table, but it was the other guys for me. It was Will Richard and Elijah Martin. Those two guys stepped up, for sure.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Came through, and obviously I'm sure Houston game plan. Houston's game plan, you know, Houston's a strong defensive team. We're going to try and shut the water off. Did an effective job of that. It was a low-scoring game, though, in the first half. Well, you got to have a counter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:56 And I think Calvin Sampson, you know, is the... Same score. He's the Doc Rivers of college. Calvin Sampson is definitely the Doc Rivers of college. He don't know how to make adjustments and you gotta have one or two
Starting point is 01:41:09 dynamic players that can make plays down the stretch you know what I'm saying I think Friar is good enough to try
Starting point is 01:41:16 but outside of him they didn't really have a guy what'd you think about the last play pump fake one dribble man no I'm saying like just to get the whole fucking play like What do you think about the last play?
Starting point is 01:41:26 Pump fake, one dribble, man. No, I'm saying like just the whole fucking play. It was a good play. It was? Yeah, because it was a clean shot. Even for the shot, he caught it, and it was a bunch of time. Yeah, way too long. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:41:39 He did the same thing earlier in the game, though, had a three, and the dude closed out on him. Yeah. Did the same. Weird. But that play, it looked like it worked. It would have blocked that shit. But he was so late on him. Yeah. Did the same. Weird. Yeah. But that play, it looked like it worked. It would have blocked that shit. But he was so late on the closeout. It was like, dude didn't even, he didn't look behind him or nothing.
Starting point is 01:41:51 I hated the play from the beginning. I didn't know what they was going to go to. I hated the play. I'm thinking, man, listen, who my best player? And give it to him. Give him the ball to get the fuck out the way. We finna go down here. We gonna shoot it early just in case he miss it.
Starting point is 01:42:03 We give ourselves another chance. I fucking hated that shit from the beginning. Like, why y'all doing all that action on the weak side? Like, you're not giving yourself the chance to do anything else. Right. That part. That part. Second chance.
Starting point is 01:42:17 Mm-hmm. And for him not to get a shot at it. Right? You can do the same thing, right? And now you got a foul, right? So, the same play can happen if you go earlier. Yes. You can do the same thing, right? And now you got to foul, right? So your same play can happen if you go earlier. Yes. You can do the same thing.
Starting point is 01:42:29 Now you got a chance to foul and get the ball back. Ain't got a chance to get him. Yeah. Right. You got to steal. Anything can happen, man, in that moment. But, I mean, because you got to foul. Did he, did the coach fuck up?
Starting point is 01:42:40 Did he nut up? Yeah, I think it was the wrong play. I just, it was the wrong play, I think. You go to the rim? Yeah, yeah. Right away. Right away. You go to the rim.
Starting point is 01:42:50 Downhill and go. Yes, man. I thought about Gil in this moment. Downhill and go, man. Oh, get a foul. Get it up. Get a foul, get something. You're going to get the shot at the rim or something's going to happen quickly.
Starting point is 01:42:58 Make sure we get a shot. We got to go fast. We cannot not get a shot. No, that's the worst case scenario. We cannot not get a shot. I'm just shaking the worst case scenario. We cannot not get a shot. I'm just shaking my head watching this shit. I'm like, are you fucking, you know what I mean? At the end of the game.
Starting point is 01:43:09 My whole thought, I'm like, are you fucking shitting me? You don't get a shot up? Like, that's my, I'm like, you don't get a shot up? Like, you see it all the time in the NBA with certain situations, but when it's, you see it regular season, but when the game is on the line and you got elder statesmen in college and you don't get a shot up Yeah, I just got all that shit yesterday in here
Starting point is 01:43:31 About upperclassmen they they dependable and this is in the same shit again and they come out this muffin. You don't even get a shot up Kelvin Sam said the same thing I see his reaction live in the game post game comments to comments, to walk out of that play, not even throw something at the basket. Yeah, run somebody over, chalk. Yo, you got to do something other than turn that bitch over with no time. But look, like he said, Calvin put him in a position for a catch and shoot. That wasn't a catch and drive. That wasn't the motive.
Starting point is 01:44:00 The motive was we're going to get the point guard. We're going to come up. Y'all going to set a double for him to come into the elevator shoot. And you're going to be. So now what are we going to do if they switch out? They switch out on that. And now what, Calvin? We got two seconds on the.
Starting point is 01:44:16 What now? We're still down one. Overcoaching, man, at times. Too smart. You're too smart at times. He's Doc Rivers, man. You're too smart at times, dog. Get a ball to your best player and get the fuck out the way. It's that simple at times. Too smart. You're too smart at times. He's Doc Rivers, man. You're too smart at times, dog.
Starting point is 01:44:26 Get a ball to your best player and get the fuck out the way. It's that simple at times. Yep. Right? It is real simple. Should've never cut me from my team.
Starting point is 01:44:33 We needed a bucket in Denver. Like, damn it. Hey, man, get a ball to 15 and get the fuck out the way.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Shia, you and Kelvin Sampson have some... No, no, no. He disrespected you along have some... No, no, no. He disrespected you along your journey? No, no, no. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:44:50 19 and under, he cut me from the 19 and under. See? There it is. Questionable decision maker. But now you don't know another nigga like me. Nobody say that in the other house. Nobody say it like that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:45:06 Before we move on, can we get Gil a IV please? Gil with arenas. Still in the arena. And that's what happens when you drink warm champagne. And smoke cigar and hookah and you don't do neither regularly. Hitting cigar. Right? The tea hookah. When you don't do either regularly. Hiddick Cigar, the tea hookah.
Starting point is 01:45:25 When you don't do either regularly, and I told you that cigar was going, hey, on top of that hookah, hey, that warm ass champagne. Hey, he's acting, he ain't never acted like this. Every since he got married, he been acting weird. Brand new. He been trying to get drunk a lot more. Probably getting high on the, Probably in the bathroom getting high. Getting high on the hill. Before he go, hey Manny, I'll be in in a second.
Starting point is 01:45:52 You smoke crack, don't you? You smoke crack, don't ya? Boy. You want to jump? I know you want to jump. Go ahead. Do it expeditiously. Gil, you want to talk to Luca? Gil is not. You did not respond. We're going to talk, Luca? You did not respond. We're going to talk about a player in the same conference as Luca. We're getting closer. We're getting warmer. And then we're going to move to the same city.
Starting point is 01:46:20 This is a celebration about Luca, man. He's talking about hisass women in college. You're talking about kids in the league, players, man. Congratulations, man. 25, 26 in college. Where's Luka at? He's the same age, right? He is of a similar age, 26 years old. Let's go, Luka.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Let's get this thing back up. Let's go, Luka. Yeah! We're going to talk about a team the Lakers will have no problem disposing of in the playoff. So there is a correlation there. Hey, man, don't smoke the hookah and the cigar. Kelsey Plum cigar. And the champagne.
Starting point is 01:47:00 And I think somebody threw some shots up in there. Kelsey Plum says she will come to the arena once Brandon stops ducking her leg, pulls up to open run. So, we're talking a little. It's that J.R. Henney. Is there a Henney in it for J.R. Smith? Please do not give. Give me the Henney.
Starting point is 01:47:15 Do not give. It's 125 Pacific. So, me and Swiss had this conversation the other day, right? So, when they said the thing about Adrian Broner taking the money from the NBA player to shoot dice, they used J.R. Pitcher. He was in the picture with him. J.R. was like, I don't even shoot dice. Damn.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Right? I hit him like, damn, Swizz. He said, I don't even shoot dice. Right? And he said, he don't even drink Hennessy. That's the thing. They call him the Henny guy. Yeah, he the Henny guy and don't even drink Hennessy.
Starting point is 01:47:41 He like, yo. Oh, wow. Oh, no, the Henny guy don't drink Henny. But he don't drink Henny. I learned that in my film, Memes and Nightmares, currently streaming on Hulu. He want Henny guy and don't even drink Hennessy. He like, yo. Oh, wow. Oh, no, the Henny guy don't drink Henny. He don't drink Henny. I learned that in my film, Memes and Nightmares, currently streaming on Hulu. He want Henny. I'll take Henny. He want some Henny.
Starting point is 01:47:52 Don't do it. It ain't 126 yet. Give him some Hennessy. That's enough. For the chat. For the chat, Laker Nation, we celebrating early. Mike, Michael, Calvin. Shout out to Andrew in the chat said,
Starting point is 01:48:09 agent, zero tolerance. Booyah. This is a shot. Good job, Andrew. Shot for Laker Nation winning the chip. We did win a 2020 chip. 2025 on the way. Two parades. He took that like a champ. He liked that. He ain't no face or nothing.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Gil been acting different. That's why he make our best friends, the Hennessy boys. So let's talk, it's not Luka, but it's close. It's close. A player who's just beneath him in terms of talent. LeBron. Below that, but still talented. LeBron.
Starting point is 01:48:42 They had a similar game recently. Austin Reeves? No. Rui. Gabe. We are going to go up north a little bit to the bay. After Steph Curry had a rough game against the Houston Rockets, Jerrimon Green and Baron Davis went on their podcast, had an interesting conversation about the way
Starting point is 01:49:01 Steph is officiated, then brought it back to a larger point about selling calls. Let's take a listen. Jimmy Butler mentioned Steph Curry. I've never seen an individual get fouled more than he gets fouled. And one thing I found interesting was most of it is off the ball. They first step just as much off the ball, if not more than they do on him. He's always being grabbed and held off the ball because you don't want to get a step behind, so everybody just grab and hold him. You know, as soon as he take off,
Starting point is 01:49:30 if you're a half a step off his body, it creates a domino effect because all he need is a half an inch to get the shot off, and it's a great look. Yeah, my goal for Steph in the playoffs is 10 free throws a game. He should get 10 free throws a game. He earned them, that's for
Starting point is 01:49:45 sure. When I watch the game, he get bumped, held, grabbed, pushed off his mark more than any shooter that I've ever seen. He don't talk to the referees. He gets penalized for that. I also think he gets penalized because he's not a flopper. And so it's almost as if, oh, he not getting fouled or it don't matter because he ain't showing that he's getting fouled. I think in this league, we reward flopping. We put a flopping rule in that you never see get called. But we reward flopping and flailing. And Steph does neither.
Starting point is 01:50:16 It doesn't really hurt him because he still do what he do. But it hurts him as far as getting the call and getting to the free throw line because he don't flop and he don't sell the call. So to add some context to Draymond's point about flopping, only six players have been fined for flopping this season. The fines are $2,000 a pop. So is flopping rewarded in the NBA? That's this season that we're speaking of.
Starting point is 01:50:38 To only how many? Six players. Because they don't, it ain't no fun. Way more dudes should be fined for flopping. I watch a lot of fucking basketball. It happens all the time, right? Yeah, six a game, at least. I have a question.
Starting point is 01:50:51 How many times have Luka and LeBron been fucking fined for flopping? Both? No, I'm just saying, because they do it a lot. Yeah, I know. Ethical players. No, they can be that as well, but they still flop. Man, NBA ain't taking LeBron money. They're not. But my thing well, but they still flop. Man, NBA ain't taking LeBron money. They're not.
Starting point is 01:51:05 So, but my thing is, it's a thing. Steph probably plays through it. He probably doesn't complain about it. Cool and all that, but. You do all that movement, you're going to get held. You're going to get grabbed. I was about to add, I'm just going to say,. You're going to get grabbed. Like, that's... I was about to ask. I'm just going to say, like, I got a question to ask you.
Starting point is 01:51:27 Yeah, so, you know... What's the defense for a nigga that can literally run around the big man? How do I... Do I follow him? I'm going to grab you, hold you, bump you, trip you. Big, I need you to hit him. Oh, listen, he lucky it ain't our days. He's just running.
Starting point is 01:51:43 He lucky it ain't the old chucking day where we can really chuck you. Sam, man, how are you supposed to guard that? Please stop eating popcorn off the floor. You please give Gil
Starting point is 01:51:52 some popcorn, please. In a cup? So we don't have to eat it off the floor like freedom. No, nobody sit there. That's not sanitary. But, yeah,
Starting point is 01:52:02 that's the only way you can guard it. He's great. But look, how do we guard Reggie? Name Dame. How do we guard Allen Houston? Name Dame. How do we guard Robert Hamilton?
Starting point is 01:52:11 Yes, yes. Hold. We had to hold. We had to be physical. You better. And he had to figure out the way to get us off him. You better. To get a clean look.
Starting point is 01:52:21 He better start flopping. Fall down, scream. That's what they used to do. So now everybody, now everybody's down, scream. That's what they used to do. Now everybody's saying, oh, he's foul. You got to foul steps to stop him. When y'all can set legal screens to get him open. You can set legal screens to get him open.
Starting point is 01:52:38 We can't foul to stop him from getting. See, Draymond and BD, I hear you. He's benefiting from this day and age trust and freedom of movement. The league benefits Steph Curry. Because there's no defense to stop him from just running around. Before they put freedom of movement in, good luck. He thought twice about going down there. You would have been absolutely coming off his pin down.
Starting point is 01:53:03 That's the grind. I'm not going down there with him. Try to come off this double. No, I'm going the other way. You're gonna have to go out the other side. Every time, I'm going this way. Yeah, least resistant. Man, I'm not going.
Starting point is 01:53:14 Taking the path of least resistance. He's gonna hit me. Coach, I know he's gonna hit me. As a matter of fact, draw it up, not Kenyon's side. Whoever guys, Kenyon's guarding, you on this side, because he's not gonna hit me. Because more than likely, I'm gonna try to switch it out and You run up. I'm definitely gonna bump you
Starting point is 01:53:30 So should could he shoot more free throws? probably But that's the only way you can guard it You can't you you have to grab you have a whole driver You have to make him a driver crowd make him a drive I think before the ball, I guess I read something about you work early. I say right I read something about files They said if they actually called every foul that is actually in the NBA game They will never finish the game all the players be fouled out
Starting point is 01:53:58 Yeah So they said they don't call at least 75 to 50 something percent of the actual Fouls just so there can be a game. Because by rule, if you're going by the rule book, technically what a foul is, you're never going to get the ball up the floor, technically, against certain teams. Because every touch, every push, every touch is a foul. When a guy has an active dribble, I put my hands on you when you're facing. It's a foul.
Starting point is 01:54:30 Today in day and age, freedom of movement. I try to move, you stop. Foul. I try to go post up, you bump. Foul. I got the ball in the post, you reach it. Foul. Everything is a foul.
Starting point is 01:54:42 It's the only way to play the game. So those that complain about it, deal with it. It's just a part of it. They can't, like, give a point. They can't call it all. And this is why foul baiting is, shouldn't be frowned upon. If you know that the refs are going to the game not trying to call all the fouls, and they're only trying to call at least 25%, if you're a guy who's so aggressive,
Starting point is 01:55:13 right, you have to make it seem like you're getting hit. Because you know normally the ref is not going to call it because he don't want to call it. So if Yacht, Yacht is going to have his fucking 40 free throws. Because every time he drives, want to call it. So if Yacht is going to have his fucking 40 free throws because every time he drives it's a foul. Jokic, every time he drives it's a foul. There's no one stopping him. He's getting hit every single time. You can see the motherfucker. He started off white, he finishes red. Right? You know what I mean? Like he really finishes red. You got the scars over here. So if we went by the rule and the technicality of
Starting point is 01:55:47 the game, they're going to foul out everyone. I watched Shaq. We fouled the motherfucker every time. He only took 10 free throws. We fouled him 60 free throws worth. But I was there with Dwight Howard. I seen this motherfucker
Starting point is 01:56:03 getting punched, pushed, knee in his ass like you. No, no pause. You seen all that. No pause on it? Yes. Or full pause? Either way.
Starting point is 01:56:13 You said no. Either way. You said no pause? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Knee kick. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:19 I'm drunk. He's drunk. And hot. That's fine. I was trying to say pause. Same damn time. I was trying to say pause when I said no pause. He's drunk and high the same damn time.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Yeah, it's gay. I was trying to say no pause. Let's keep it moving. Let's keep it moving. Knee and ass. I meant it. I meant it. Yeah, I meant that shit. No pause. With a grunt. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:56:42 No pause. But I watched him get fouled like crazy, and the ref is like, I'm not calling all these fouls, man. So, you know, so the guys who get hit a lot, they're not. Like, so Steph, like, let's be honest. If you're guarding him, you're fouling him off the ball. The ref is not going to call it, because if they did, man, there would be no basketball game.
Starting point is 01:57:00 This is the softest era that we've had in basketball. The softest era? We played 21, right? You gotta call your own fouls. You know that one dude that's in the gym calling every single fucking foul. We can't even fucking get up and down the court because he want to call a ball, right? Everybody in the gym know, and we don't play like this, whose man is this? Whose man? Who brought him?
Starting point is 01:57:24 Who invited him? Who brought him? He's fucking the game up. Because we don't play like this, whose man is this? Whose man? Who brought him? Who invited him? Who brought him? He's fucking the game up. Because we don't play like this. We trying to get a run. It's called bump. We trying to bump.
Starting point is 01:57:32 So we all know when you call your foul because it's obvious. Obvious foul. Got him up. Ah, you got to foul me. Boom. Check up. Ball up top. Everything else, man, we learn how to not call fouls.
Starting point is 01:57:43 We know it. We got to play hard. Man, that ain't a foul. You got to foul me hard. I'm going to say Magic is the only exception. Oh, Magic Johnson ass nigga. You got to make plan up at UCLA, motherfucker. Magic the only exception.
Starting point is 01:57:54 The only motherfucker never lose a game at UCLA. Ball. Hey, ball. Always. Listen, every drop, foul. It's where you from, man. I seen him get ripped clean. Some random dude has ripped him clean.
Starting point is 01:58:05 Nobody, right? You know you're getting fouled. You know you're getting fouled. You can complain when it's obvious. When it's like, God damn, ref, what's up? What are we doing? I ain't asking for no fouls, but shit. Give me the ones that I need.
Starting point is 01:58:23 I'm going to play through everything else. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. If they're going into the game knowing that they're only going to really call 25% of the fouls, you have to make the fouls seem like you're really getting hit. But even the 25, it should be lower than that because you're saying, like, if we're not calling 75%, 80% of the calls just because we'll slow the game down and there's that many fouls.
Starting point is 01:58:46 Let's just call the obvious ones. Let's just call the obvious travels, the obvious fouls, the hard fouls. Everything else is play hard, bro. That's all that bumping like we used to do with the Ray. We didn't have to bump Ray Allen, man. He's running around. But that's what I'm saying. So if I'm getting bumped, that's why I'm going to oversell him.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Yeah, he has to. He needs to. But I'm saying, so now you're talking about a Ray Allen, a Klay, a Steph, a Trae Young. But if you oversell Ray, I got to perfect what Steph should be doing. But if you oversell him. Call him the fuck out. If you're overselling him and it don't work, it's a busted play. But they're going to start.
Starting point is 01:59:22 Let's say. No, no. Let's say. But now you're acting. No, but I'm saying, let's say you guarded me a busted play. It's a busted play. Let's say... No, no. Let's say... But now you're acting. No, but I'm saying, let's say you guarded me a whole game and I done faked it 20 motherfucking times and they only called it three times.
Starting point is 01:59:35 That's motherfucking three fouls on you. Yeah. That's important to the game. Yeah, but... Because now you ain't guarding me good. It's how you got those three fouls. It's almost like you and the ref are colluding on something I have no I have no no knowledge of. It's like, oh, this I have to guard it like this. And you're no you're knowing you're going to call it. And he knowing you're going to call it. I don't know what you're going to do because I'm trying to guard it the best way I can. You're manipulating what it looks like. It's not even a foul. You're making it look like a foul.
Starting point is 02:00:08 Remember, seven advantages. That advantage goes to the offense. No, no, no. But think about it. That's the offensive advantage. No, but technically 17%. I mean, 17 possessions, they didn't call it. OK.
Starting point is 02:00:19 But I don't have to worry about 17 possessions because you only have six fouls. But that's a lot of possessions. Yes, that's a lot of possessions. I fucked off. Yes. But all I need is you to get two fouls in the first quarter and I ain't got to see your ass until halftime. But I'm saying those 17 fuck off possessions could have been real
Starting point is 02:00:35 possessions that you actually got buckets on based on not trying to fake to get the foul and just going to get your shit. But it's more important but okay, as an offensive player, right, let's say I'm guarding. You guys are guarding me, right? If you guys are the best defenders on the team,
Starting point is 02:00:52 I don't want you in the last five minutes. Of course. Because that means you motherfuckers is dictating the results, right? So the first three quarters, I'm trying to figure out how to manipulate the referees on you two motherfuckers that's fouling. But you don't have to. So you're guarding me. You're over.
Starting point is 02:01:08 I'm going to be doing this. He comes off and he hard shows. I'm going to pretend. I need to get you guys in trouble. It's not manipulation, though, because you're already good enough. For me, it's manipulating. You're already good enough to get in front of Kenyon in the pick and roll and to stop. He had to either run you over.
Starting point is 02:01:24 That's not a bait foul to me. But I don't want regular offense at this point. I want fouls on him. So your fouls are going to come within the... No, no, no, no. If you pick and roll. What you going to do in the pick and roll to get him in foul trouble? I'm going to come off hard.
Starting point is 02:01:39 He hopefully hard shows and I get hit. All right, he switches. Then I'm going to try to sit here. As soon as he do one of these, I'm going to sit there and do this shit all the time. You know what I'm saying? He's switching off on you at the top of the key now. Pick and roll. Is it one, four, flat?
Starting point is 02:01:51 What is it? I'm trying to get fouled. That's what I'm saying. What kind of foul are you going to get on him? Like Lou Will. He's not worried about scoring. What I'm saying is I'm not actually worried about scoring. Let's say we're on a fast break, and I have a fast break, and he's trailing me.
Starting point is 02:02:06 I'm purposely, like if I know he got two fouls on the first, I'm purposely going to slow down and get the hit. Of course. When I can just go up and dunk it, I want him to get a start. I don't want him in the 4-4. What I'm asking you is, you got him at the top of the key, one-on-one, he got two fouls. How are you going to get this foul on him? I want him to close the distance.
Starting point is 02:02:23 So, right? So, I'm going to just know what I'm saying. I'm just idling the first. So, right? So, I'm going to just. He knows. You know what I'm saying? I'm just idling first. So, like, I know he's going to try to give me distance. I don't want to shoot a jump shot. So, I'm not. I don't want to back him up.
Starting point is 02:02:32 So, I'm not going to load up. But what does he know? What does he know? Not the foul. Not the foul. So, I'm going to try to get close. I'm going to just go in and then try to get as close as possible. Right?
Starting point is 02:02:43 So, when I start driving and he do one of these, I can do one of those. So that's why I said I purposely fucked the score. I want the third foul, just like Shaquille O'Neal. He's under the basket. I have this layup. No, I'm jumping right into him. Remember back then, if you was in that,
Starting point is 02:03:01 in that, the what's the name circle, and you didn't get out, any contact was a foul. So I went headhunting. If Shaq or anybody, Vareja didn't get outside, fuck this lab right here. I'm jumping this side. There's no protection for the defense. You have all the advantage and all the protection. Me,
Starting point is 02:03:18 you going at me with the plan to bait a foul, I have no insurance. None. None. I can't even say, hey, ref, I got my hands straight up. No, he's trying to get you to foul because you have two. That's the whole advantage of the bait. I get that. But that's what I'm saying is the problem.
Starting point is 02:03:38 It's the problem when it ain't a foul. It ain't a foul. That's the problem when it's not a foul and you're trying to get me to foul you so hard that it now looks like a foul. But, I mean, but that's part of the game, right? It can't be.
Starting point is 02:03:55 It's never been like that. But we're spending a whole position on you trying to get me to foul you. That's not... Now, tell me, like, it's some bullshit, but it's just smart ass basketball There's only a few people who IQ is running this
Starting point is 02:04:08 What's her name You're talking about a Chris Paul You're talking about a Jkid You're talking about I'm pretty sure Luka will see this shit Let's say you got five fouls And your ass was running down Running down the court And you fail
Starting point is 02:04:23 You just fail Them three motherfuckers Is running over you was running down the court and you fail, right? You just fail. This motherfucker just fail. Them three motherfuckers is running over you. Run, trip, and fall over you. Them three motherfuckers is going to run. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:04:34 They over here calling the play. They see you fail and you got 5,000. You're the best defender or the best player. They're going to sit there and say, fuck all that. They're going to run right to you,
Starting point is 02:04:43 trip over you, six fouls. Turnover. Out. Turnover, travel run right to you, trip over you. Six fouls. Turnover. Turnover. Foul. Travel, whatever it is. It's a foul. In theory, for that moment, what we know, yes. But I'm saying, for what we've seen with Baton, that should not be a fucking foul.
Starting point is 02:04:58 That should be whatever it is. If he keeps the ball and he falls. I don't think you motherfucking running full speed and I'm running behind you, stop in front of me. I don't think that should be running full speed and I'm running behind you stop in front of me. I don't think that should be a foul. Yeah. They don't know what the foul name is. That's the sack shit.
Starting point is 02:05:10 You dribbling that motherfucker down the floor and I'm running and trying to motherfucking. You can stop. And then you get a tie. And I get a mother like, come on, man. And in theory, it's a fucking charge. That's that Austin Reeves. Because the rule is defensive. You have to be in defensive position.
Starting point is 02:05:24 If you're on the fucking floor, you ain't in no defensive position. So a smart guy would just run over nowadays. Yeah, because the rules is, defensive, you have to be in defensive position. If you on the fucking floor, daddy, you ain't in no defensive position, so a smart guy would just run over you. Yeah, legal guard. And that's just like for shot blockers. Yeah, legal guard. Shot blockers love to block shots. We don't like to fucking see them motherfuckers take charges. You're like, man, stop, get your punk ass up and stop taking charges and meet me at
Starting point is 02:05:40 the rim. What are we doing? We trying to dunk on, what's up? So it's the same with baiting fouls. It's like, bro, let me guard you. Bro, let me guard you, bro. I just want to guard you, bro. You ain't got to do all that. Fuck, bro. Let me guard you.
Starting point is 02:05:54 If I can't guard you, then I'm going to give you the credit. If you flop, you better hope I got one already. Oh, yeah. That foul is going to be a hard foul. You better hope I got one or two already. You better hope you flop. Man, yeah, that foul gonna be a hard foul. You better hope I got one or two already. You better hope you better hope you flop. I'm getting on my
Starting point is 02:06:10 nerves, man. Because if you flop and I ain't got now, I only got one, oh, you guarantee that next one, now, and I'm gonna look right at the ref, now, that's a five. And go to the bench. I'm gonna raise my, no, no, no, it'll be in look right at the ref. Now, that's a five. And go to the bench.
Starting point is 02:06:25 I'm going to raise my, no, no, no, no. It'll be in the right time, though. It's going to be at the right time. Hey, now that's a five. Right there. Like, what's so funny is even when we played them, I already knew I'm going to shoot. I don't want to be the first person to try to make a layup.
Starting point is 02:06:40 Right, because they're sending the middle. No, he go to the first one. Get his head out of here. Send him coming, that motherfucker. He's going to try to grab it, throw they sent in the men. No, he go to them. Get in there, come in there, motherfucker. He's going to try to grab it, throw that motherfucker in the fourth fucking row. Everybody going to be like, oh! Like, oh, now you're going to scare the whole team. Now everybody wants you motherfucking jump shots, right?
Starting point is 02:06:55 Shaquille O'Neal, you be the first one to drive. He's going to do the same shit. He's going to come. He ain't trying to block the shot. He's going to throw that motherfucking heavy ass hip. Boom! Floor, bam! Everybody was like oh shit jump shot century work, right? So it's all it's all part of the game and everybody's learning in real time
Starting point is 02:07:15 And if you don't know everybody's mannerisms you can get you can be scared off the motherfucking court you going in you And throw one of these up in the motherfucker You gonna be sitting there driving like where the fuck is king throw one of these up, and the motherfucker, boom! Get out of here and say it. Niggas are going to be like, you're going to be sitting there driving like, where the fuck is King at? What you just say about the Shaq shit, right? The Shaq hip. That was the defense's protection. That was the only protection.
Starting point is 02:07:35 When you went in there and Shaq hit you with that, it's like, do I want another one of those? Can I handle another one of those? I'm going to tear it from somebody that attacked the rim. No. No. Hey, no. No. And that's why I be like, yo, when you talk about people's defense, guard's defense, y'all have to realize who's behind them sometimes. Like, you know, like Derek, yeah, you had good defense.
Starting point is 02:07:57 But I didn't drive 90% of the time because that motherfucker only had one foul or two fouls down there. Like, so I don't want that shit. I don't have the type of body that wants to feel what the floor feels like. Consistently. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's trying to prove a point. The point for Shaq sometime was, I don't want you guys to come in here.
Starting point is 02:08:18 So I'm going to hit you so hard that you shoot jump shots. That was his defense. Right? So some people, same thing with you. There's some people that's sitting there trying to fuck shit up. Send a message. Yeah, you're sending a message. I don't want that message.
Starting point is 02:08:33 I'm only going to drop. It's the mental side. He's sending a mental game to you. If you look at how I played when I hit the 60 against Kobe, right? Look who his back line was. Oh, I'm coming up 27 free throws. These motherfuckers ain't trying to foul nobody. They sitting there doing this.
Starting point is 02:08:50 Shaq, pull-ups, jumpers. I'm not going down there with that big motherfucker, man. He's clotheslining. He's doing all that shit. Even on your M1. Yeah. It's hard. If it's an M1, you're going to feel that, man. Are you like Shaq getting to the fourth quarter with three fouls?
Starting point is 02:09:05 Man, good motherfucking luck, man. Good luck. Good luck. Nobody want to feel that shit, man. They're that serious. Trust me. Man, listen. We don't got none of that in the league right now.
Starting point is 02:09:13 He turned that motherfucking hip into you, man. At all. DeAndre Jordan, bro. You wide or you motherfucking trying to go dumb. I'm taking off with two. Yep. He motherfucking turned. Boom.
Starting point is 02:09:24 Boom. Like, people think, like, you ain't dunk on Shaq? No, did you see what the fuck he does, man, when you try to dunk on him? Bah! Like, ah. What? So, we asked the chat, does Steph get an unfair whistle? 50-50 split.
Starting point is 02:09:39 Nah, he don't get it. He, listen, if. I like that. If. Hey, we just talked him all the way down to 50, goddamn. If. Because that shit is not 70. That shit is 70-30. No, he don't get like, he, listen, if. I like that. Hey, we just talked him all the way down to 50, goddamn. Because that shit is a 70, that shit is 70, 30. No, seriously, like, to be honest, if Curry played to the whistle, oh, this motherfucker has so many fouls.
Starting point is 02:09:56 Because he's so little. He's so little, every time you touch him, he can flop it if he wants to. He'll get them, like I said. He'll get them A.I. calls. If he did what Trey Young Trey Young knows how to and he gonna fall out right you bump Trey you're coming off the floor He gonna motherfucking hot dry He wants you to blow the whistle if you don't he gonna keep going but he's trying to get you to blow the whistle
Starting point is 02:10:21 right is so I'm big on that look like they're playing selfish, though. Like, guys like Trey, and if Steph hadn't built the legacy, he would be one of those guys that's taking them long-ass three-pointers that, like, originally is a bad shot. Like, we trying to run the offense, and you just come out to pick and roll, and you just 40-footer randomly, and it don't go in? As a team, we're looking at you like, bro, what is you doing?
Starting point is 02:10:51 Right? So Trey Young, if we play him a certain way in the pick and roll where he always got to make the pocket pass, he can't come off and manipulate all this foul and shit, and the only shot you got is that deep three or that floater. That's all your game regulated to if we guard you the right way. Steph Curry, I'm not going to say that's going to be his game because he does have layup package.
Starting point is 02:11:12 He does have floaters and mid-ranges. But the game looks different when you start being penalized for taking bad shots. And it's like, yeah, you can shoot 42%, 41% from 40. But when that shit don't go in and it leads to other fast break points, transition points on the other side, and you're not guarding and being an all-team defense on the other end, now we're at a discrepancy.
Starting point is 02:11:36 That's always been my thing with Steph and Trey and Luca. Give me something on the other end, bro, so we can say you a solid fucking player. Oh, that's real. For certain situations, I hear you. They are at a physical disadvantage at times.
Starting point is 02:11:57 Most times. Go ahead and say the words. Steph and Trey and certain guys, they are at a physical disadvantage at times. Not all the time. I could have been a singer. I see why he had that baby oil.
Starting point is 02:12:17 Hey, let's keep it moving before this conversation takes a turn. That may get us canceled. So moving along. One team in the West appears to be healthy just at the right time. Kawhi Leonard was named Western Conference Player of the Week. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Kawhi Leonard was named Western Conference Player of the Week. Let's take a look at what Kawhi's done.
Starting point is 02:12:39 We like Kawhi here in the arena. I know you don't play on the right team. I got a Kawhi jersey. Thank you. Show some respect to the arena, Gil. I know you don't play on the right team. I got a Kawhi jersey. Thank you. Show some respect to the Kawhi. Kawhi averaged 25.6 rebounds and two steals per game
Starting point is 02:12:49 en route to winning the award Western Conference Player of the Week. Did he go 3-0? What did he do? Gil, you know, what team was that?
Starting point is 02:12:57 I don't mean to be the hater. I do have a Kawhi Leonard jersey. I bought one. Just in case. I had to switch sides. Did he go 3-0? He looked for you, Gil. Always asking jersey. I bought one. Just in case. I had to switch sides. Did they go 3-0? We'll look for you, Gil.
Starting point is 02:13:08 Always asking this fucking question. When did we start talking about Clippers? That's crazy, Joe. They did go. We have to, Dirk. 4-0. The other team in Los Angeles. This has been a consistent run for Kawhi.
Starting point is 02:13:23 Since March 1st, Kawhi has averaged a 25.7 rebounds, two steals, with 53-42, 83 shooting splits. Clippers currently 46-32, good for fifth in the West, in a very fluid bracket right now. As we know, it's going to come down to Sunday, the last game of the NBA regular season. Oh, my shit. So he's back to being Kawhi.
Starting point is 02:13:41 He's back to being Kawhi. He's back to being the person that we know of. That's what you just said. All that shit you just read, he's back to being the person. That's all you had to say. Kawhi back. Kawhi's back. You did all that reading.
Starting point is 02:13:55 You just said Kawhi back. We're like, okay, we got it. Reading is fundamental, Gil. It is. How dangerous are the Clippers in the playoffs with a healthy Kawhi Leonard? That's always the question mark when you talk about Kawhi in the past few years. The Kawhi PG era marred by injuries. Kawhi injured last postseason.
Starting point is 02:14:12 But if he can stay healthy, play at this level, how dangerous is that Clippers squad? All right. We said before, we were saying the 4-5 matchup if they have to play Denver. So we believe in them. They have two guys that's proven. Two-time finals MVP in Kawhi that this is the time of year that he shows up. James is trying to prove something, trying to win something. I think T. Lewis is trying to do the same as a head coach.
Starting point is 02:14:48 Norm Powell and if he's a Zubac is playing, having the best year of their careers. So it's shaping up for them to make some noise, but we'll see. Then fifth? Yeah, right'll see. Then fifth. Yeah. Fifth. Right match up. But we got four teams tied at forty-six and thirty-two. Yeah. So, just depending on who they play in the first round, how it's gonna look but they are, they still have the all
Starting point is 02:15:15 those pieces that I just mentioned. So, yeah, you just wanna give yourself a chance and with the time that Kawhi missed early on in the season for you to still be where you are, says a lot about the surrounding cast. Yeah. And the coaching job that T. Lou and them did. So, what's up? Kawhi's injury first reported.
Starting point is 02:15:34 We thought they might be cooked, but James Harden and that crew, Zuboff's playing at a Mackey level, Norr Powell, who's missed some games, but, you know. Like, I've seen something by Nick Wright, and it's starting to look like that in the West Coast. When he said something about when he originally did the play-in game, you should be at least four games within the team, right?
Starting point is 02:15:54 So from ninth to eighth, you should be within striking distance, right? Memphis is eight games out of the losing side. They got 32 losses. SAC has 40 losses. I'm sorry, but why the fuck am I playing them in the play-in game? Like, why? Why are they even in the conversation? Why is any team in 10th in the conversation?
Starting point is 02:16:22 Why? I've been saying, why is any team in 10th in the conversation? Why? I've been saying, why is any team in 10th in the conversation? 10th? Shit, I mean, 11 games? I mean, 11 games in front of 10th. Like, why am I? What the fuck does this? This is stupid.
Starting point is 02:16:34 I've been saying this shit, bro. That doesn't even make, this doesn't even make sense. Like, there should be a guideline where if this is a close, like, you're talking about from fifth spot, from fifth to eighth. All tied. They're all tied. Right? So you're telling me fifth to tenth?
Starting point is 02:16:53 You're talking about 11 games spread and we can play for our spot? Get the fuck out of here. So I've been saying the only way. That's the dumbest shit ever. Nah, you know why? No, that's just stupid shit. Because you're expected to win that game. It's one game. But why you not win that position?
Starting point is 02:17:06 Because. The fucking, the 10th, you had all season, dog. We understand. You had all season. You had 82 games. This is like that mystery box. I ain't loading shots. This is the mystery box, right?
Starting point is 02:17:15 So those teams at the bottom of the Eastern Conference or Western Conference, y'all, you feel like you've wrapped this spot up. You deserve it, right? You deserve what? The 10th spot? No, the 8th. Yes. You feel like you've wrapped this spot up you deserve it right there what the tenth spot no to eight. Yeah You feel like you deserve it. Yeah, they're saying they're saying instead of you feeling so deserving of this spot Even a team is undeserving has a chance to take this spot if you don't come in and do it You're supposed to see that don't make no sense
Starting point is 02:17:36 Only way is let's look at the fourth way only way that nine should be in the play, right? If eight and nine y'all have the exact same record after 82 games. Eight and nine. If you're eight in that team, y'all got the same record that that team that's in nine. You're in nine, got the same record. That's the only way there should be a play-in game.
Starting point is 02:17:57 The only fucking way. Just like college, man. That's 67 team shit. I'm just saying, it's still teams that's trying to get in just to have an opportunity to be a Cinderella. To lose in the first round. To lose in the first round. Or to get to the fucking final.
Starting point is 02:18:13 You're not. You're not. Miami Heat. Miami Heat. But why do we have the 82 games for then? What is the point of the 82 games if somebody who can be literally horrible all year long and then say, you know what, y'all? We just got to be good.
Starting point is 02:18:29 It's one game. It's like double elimination in pool play. You lost twice and still can get third place. No, like you lost twice. The NCAA has it right, right? They got the 64 teams. And then whatever this NIT shit is, do that. Do that with the NBA.
Starting point is 02:18:47 9 through 16, y'all play some bottom bullshit. Play some bottom bullshit basketball. It used to be 64 teams. Now you got fucking 68 teams, and you got two other off-brand games. They playing for 63 and 64. That shit's stupid as fuck. But what happens, though?
Starting point is 02:19:03 You filter out the whole bracket every year. The teams that are supposed to be there in the Elite Eight, they are there. The first season, third, second season. So it's just to filter out the entertainment part. It's like, how are we going to get entertained?
Starting point is 02:19:20 The eighth pot was supposed to play the seventh but they lost to the tenth. So the tenth just came in. They had a big game. Such and such killed them for 57. They won and put them niggas out. So that's what I'm saying. You're erasing 82 games for one game. What is the point then?
Starting point is 02:19:34 One game. You might as well just say fuck the season and then just do bracket play during the playoffs. You don't put yourself in a position to be eighth so that you lose. Somebody got to be eighth. Don't put yourself in a position to be a so that you lose or somebody got to be a put somebody put yourself in a position. You win them games. You were supposed to win. I got 50 wins and I'm eighth and you got right. I'm are you one game back? Are you? I got 11 games and I'm eighth, right? I got 50 wins and I'm eighth. What you mean? Like, I've won more than... So I'm supposed to have...
Starting point is 02:20:09 You're supposed to win this next game. But why do I have to play in that game and this team got fucking 35 wins? It's the next game. 35 wins.
Starting point is 02:20:17 It's like a wild card in football. Just like in football, the wild card. Before we get to the actual playoffs, y'all got to win. Y'all got to beat them to get in. No, it's not. It's like having a game before the wild card, before we get to the actual playoffs. Y'all got to win. Y'all got to beat them.
Starting point is 02:20:26 No, it's not. It's like having a game before the wild card game. That too. Why not? No. You have a chance to be in the wild card. You suck. That's the point. We suck.
Starting point is 02:20:38 We have a chance to be in the wild card. You had a chance. You blew it. Every year, we have a team that don't play. Look, we don't have a team that don't play well all year, right? Ain't no mulligans in this shit. You know what team that usually is? The Cleveland Browns. They fucking trash.
Starting point is 02:20:53 Yeah. Year in, year out. But you give them a fucking shot to beat a team that they close. Every year, they close to beating. No. Like, man, we almost beat them motherfuckers every year. No, fuck. If you give them a chance in the playoffs to beat them
Starting point is 02:21:05 You have beat him you the main one always sit on this motherfucker talk about winning matters winning They we are we're gonna say we are No, yo, Chad got it. I've always was the 82 guys Was the 82 82 not up. Yes, it is. No. Yes. We got one. No, that's 83. That's 83. No. It doesn't say no.
Starting point is 02:21:29 That's why they put it in. When this shit first started, right, it wasn't we're going to give you 82 and maybe. An opportunity. No, opportunity was you blew it, motherfucker. We didn't blow it. We're going to give them hope. Hope. Listen, hope went to work on, motherfucker, Easter. We didn't blow it. We're going to give them hope. Listen, hope went to
Starting point is 02:21:46 work on Easter Sunday and wasn't nobody in there. Except for Joe Canyon. Somebody was in there. Somebody always in there. Look at this. It's just like when I went to, listen, that day I tried to go to Crazy Girls and that bitch wasn't open yet.
Starting point is 02:22:02 8, 39 o'clock at night, ain't nobody in there, motherfucker. I was in there, I told them to close the door. Nah, you wasn't there. Close the motherfucker, lock it, lock it. Don't let nobody in the front door. Nah, that shit weak, that's loser mentality shit, nah, that shit weak. I'm telling you, man, give them an opportunity. Like, like this, like, the East, the East, Milwaukee and Detroit, 44 wins, 43 wins. They are locked. 44 and 43.
Starting point is 02:22:30 The West, eighth spot is 46 wins. You got 46 wins and you still playing for a playoff chance. That's why they're the varsity. Oh, but look, you talking about Miami? Let's talk about Miami. Miami got 36. No, let's talk Miami're the varsity. No, but look. You're talking about Miami. Let's talk about Miami. Miami got 36. No, let's talk Miami and Dallas right now. Miami-Dallas is 10.
Starting point is 02:22:50 They both had 10, and they both, you say, 38. But for them two teams who've been to the playoffs, who has playoff contention abilities, has the right to come in and try to play for this eighth spot? No. No. I got eight more wins than you. Because we can beat y'all.
Starting point is 02:23:08 Why, you had 82 games to prove that. That's the right. The fact that we can beat y'all. What gives you the right, though? The fact that we can beat y'all. No, you had 82 games to prove that. We got one more. You know what's so funny?
Starting point is 02:23:21 Memphis is an ace spot. What if Memphis is an ace spot says, Hey, man, look, we got 46 wins. Houston has 52. We're closer to Houston at second than 10th spot is to us. So, look, so let me fight for second spot then. Yeah, let me fight for two. These motherfuckers in 10th can fight for my spot. Let me fight for two. Let me fight for two. Hey, I wouldn't me fight for two. Let these motherfuckers in Tiffin fight for my spot. Let us play one game for two. Let me fight for two.
Starting point is 02:23:46 Hey, I wouldn't mind all that. There are eight games behind me. I'm only six games behind them. Let me fight for that. When the regular season starts, does the, I mean, when the playoffs start, does the regular season matter? No. Okay, so let's say it starts. These 10 teams.
Starting point is 02:24:01 No, fuck 10. The teams that are in for the, whatever everyone calls it, wild card play, whatever. Play in. The bullshit games. Boom. From this point forward, we have to play. But why is there 10 teams? Why not?
Starting point is 02:24:16 Because my team been bullshitting all year. That's what I'm saying. We haven't bullshitted all year. But you got a losing record. We haven't bullshitted. Just like Detroit last year, they lost a lot of close games. Close only counts
Starting point is 02:24:28 in horseshoes and hand grenades. It do count when they're now five. They're now five. When we played good last year, we had a lot of close games that we lost. We was at 10. Now we're at five
Starting point is 02:24:41 because those games we took advantage of we learned from. Yeah, you learned. So if you put them last year in 10 and they can play for the play-in, they can win that game. But you can't put them last year. But that's what they're doing.
Starting point is 02:24:53 They learned from being in 10. I'm telling you. They learned from being in 10th last year. Now they're in fifth. That's the point. That's the way it go. That's the point. You don't want to be 10.
Starting point is 02:25:01 You go back to the drawing board and, God damn it, get better. You don't want to be 10, right? No. You don't want to be 10. You go back to the drawing board and god damn and get better. You don't want to be 10, right? No. You don't want to be 10, right? 10, you suck. So you work to get to 6 and 7. 10, you fucking suck. Yeah, I can play to get to the play. You can't even get to 7 anymore. Oh, but if I play and I get better and I'm playing at 7,
Starting point is 02:25:18 I don't have to play. So should it just be top 7, top 7? No, it should be like before, top 8. No. If the game's so boring now, you scramble. Scramble these motherfuckers and make it. You ain't got, ain't nothing guaranteed. This 10 team come here and beat you this one game and have your ass in here like, what the fuck just happened?
Starting point is 02:25:35 Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, if you're eight games behind me and you're allowed to fight for my spot, why am I not allowed to fight for a spot that's six games in front of me? I can feel I can get one. It's a one game. One game. One game. I just got to play Houston one game. Hey, let the Jazz go play Oklahoma City. The eight games y'all got to get ahead of us were games
Starting point is 02:25:55 where guys set load management and all the little... Do those games count? Yes. So if I'm saying if I'm only six games behind Houston and I'm Memphis, I would rather say, you know what? Hey, hey, hold on. Let me fight for that spot.
Starting point is 02:26:10 But you're not better than me. You're not better than us. Kings ain't better than me either. You just have more wins based on circumstance. We know we can beat you. You can say our record. Hold on. You're saying our record is the thing that reflects us not having a reason
Starting point is 02:26:26 to play for the play-in. So if the play-in, if I know that the games that y'all want to get ahead of us were bullshit games, we know we can beat y'all. And I know I can beat Houston if I'm Memphis. That's the point, to put everybody in the opportunity to win in the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:26:41 That's what the schedule's for. Everybody. That's why the play-in is there. That's why the play-in is there. That's why the play-in is there. But what I'm saying is why... What is the 82-game schedule for then? What is the playoff schedule for? What is the 82-game schedule for then? It's the regular season.
Starting point is 02:26:54 What is it for? To play back? To dictate the... To dictate what? To the playoffs. 82 games. 10 spots. 80?
Starting point is 02:27:04 No. Eight spots. 82 games. Ain spots. No. Eight spots. 82 games. Ain't no eight spots no more. No more. Stop saying it. Stop saying it.
Starting point is 02:27:11 It's for playing with 10 spots and a motherfucker got to play and prove they self that you deserve this spot.
Starting point is 02:27:18 And you ain't going to change the rules. So god damn it adapt to it. Your motherfucker's going to lose in the first round
Starting point is 02:27:25 Don't play us. Hey in the word and in the words that I've got Draw to play up the right way. Hey in the words of my here that is into it a pet detective who's her Now if you lose to us who the whole who who's our her but that's the her? No, but that's what I'm saying. And the play-in. Now take your ass home, Lou. It's only if nobody loses to no tenth. It's here. You're definitely going to lose.
Starting point is 02:27:49 It's only the West. It's only if nobody loses to no tenth. Don't be scared. What you scared of? It's only if nobody loses to the West. What you complaining about? If you ain't scared, you going to beat us? No, this ain't happening yet.
Starting point is 02:27:56 God damn it, man. God damn it, we're trying to play. But you can get lucky one game. And they don't hear that shit. But what I'm saying is, if I'm 11 games in front of you, and you're allowed to fight for my spot, I literally should be able to
Starting point is 02:28:09 fight for any spot in front of me that's in the same realm. That's all I'm saying. Like, what makes you... You're adding two teams to the playoff. But you're 11 games from behind seven spots. You want to play more games in the playoff. What I'm saying is, you're 11 games away behind seven spots. We want to play more games in the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:28:25 What I'm saying is, but you're 11 games away from me, but I'm only two games away from second, but I'm in seventh. Why can't I fight for second? Two games is separating us. 11 games is separating us. But you can fight for my spot and have hope. I can fight hope. Look, the last three games of the season,
Starting point is 02:28:43 are we not fighting for what positions? Yes, we are. Right. And when that time is up, everybody should be over. No, the last three games of the season, are we not fighting for what positions? Yes, we are. When that time is up, everybody should be over. There's not eight anymore. Like I said. No, there's actually eight. They're playing for a play-in spot. Eight solidify themselves.
Starting point is 02:28:59 Rashad, when you make the statement, I'm hearing you, but when you're saying it, make sure you put, like, them last two teams are fucking bullshit horseshit NBA teams. We talk about the West, but you look at on the East side, so... It only happens in the West, because Phoenix
Starting point is 02:29:15 is one of those teams. My point is, you got the Magic in 7th right now, 38 and 40. You got the Hawks in 8th at 37 and 41. You got the Bulls in 9th at 36 and 42, and you got the Heat in 10th at 37-41. You got the Bulls in ninth at 36-42. And you got the Heat in tenth right now, 36-43. Yes, sir. Look, so why do they get to go to the playoffs then if they're trash?
Starting point is 02:29:32 No, no, no. And we got Western. We got Western. No, what I'm saying is somebody got to make it in East. When you think about the playoffs. Why not just make it top 16 then? I agree with you. No, when you think about the play-in, the East Coast,
Starting point is 02:29:43 it always makes sense for the East because they one or two games from eight to 10. Right. So you have eight at 37, nine at 36, 10 at 36, seven at 38. So they're right there. They're a game away from beating each other. So them four motherfuckers should be playing for something. Yeah. Right. Cool. But when H-Spot has 46 wins and then Tim-Spot has 38 wins in the West, you're not in the same realm. Why are we even
Starting point is 02:30:11 playing against each other? Because we've been kicking y'all ass all year. We're not the same. These are one or two games. It doesn't have to be the same. It doesn't have to be the same. It's the fact that whether we have
Starting point is 02:30:25 11 games above or below you, you got to play us to get in. Well, that's because they put it in, but you don't believe that shit. I do. You get an opportunity. You didn't believe that shit before. If you can beat us, beat us. You didn't believe that shit before they put it in. It's the same thing with the wild card.
Starting point is 02:30:40 If the wild card team that comes in that gets a wild card bid against a good team, you got to beat that team. I have a question for you. Let's change the money. Let's say you have a million dollars. We're playing big bank take little bank. You got a million.
Starting point is 02:30:55 I got $500,000. Literally, you got the big bank, I got the little bank. I get to motherfucking roll one dice to win your money. Are you really even? It is the same. It's not a 50-50 scenario. No, we both get the roll. For a team that is good enough to go on.
Starting point is 02:31:15 To go on where? To go on to the playoffs. To play extra games. How are you good enough? So, Rashad. What do you mean? How are you good enough? You said that because of the record.
Starting point is 02:31:23 Rashad, I'm kidding. The record is so lost. Your bank account shows you. I your bank account shows you know bank account shows you have more money me But we get the roll one dice. Yes. Let's see who wins your money. That's not this and that's not a good It is a 50-50 It is a 50-50 because I as a player as the team that's deserving of this spot We're gonna prove that we're deserving. You should prove that your baby is not that's luck. this spot. We're going to prove that we're deserving of this spot. You should prove that you're bigger. 50-50 is not. That's luck. You're rolling for luck, bro. We're not rolling
Starting point is 02:31:50 for luck if I'm better than you as a team. If you... We're 11 games higher than you. We're 11 games higher than you. Yep. Right? I have to prove why. Huh? Why do I have to prove why? Because we got the spot. Why do you have to prove that? The spot. Because you have the spot. Rashad, I... You have the 8th spot or the 9th spot. Now you have to prove against the 10 I have to prove? Because we got the spot. Why do you have to prove that? The spot. Because you have the spot. Rashad.
Starting point is 02:32:06 You have the eight spot or the nine spot. Now you have to prove against the 10. So I'm proving my 500,000 is more than your one million. It's 50. It's 50. So it started in the bubble. I think that was just for eight, nine. And then I believe after that. So I have a question for you.
Starting point is 02:32:18 21. I have a question for you, Rashad. Before that season. Let's get it. Before that season. Before that. 2020. Before the 2020 season. It was 8-9 in the bubble. They played for the A spot.
Starting point is 02:32:30 Right? So five years ago. Right? Did you think that? I didn't know nothing about it. I wouldn't have thought about it. I didn't ask you that. I wouldn't have thought about it.
Starting point is 02:32:38 So you was cool with it only being 18? Nobody would have. Was you cool with it only being 18? Kenyon. It was never introduced before it was introduced. So everybody could literally sit around and you think before they change the rule that 10 should have a chance. Now nobody thought it because why? Because it wasn't realistic. Because of why? I don't fucking know. I didn't come up with it because they fucking record they came up with it. Because of their fucking record.
Starting point is 02:33:05 They came up with it for a reason. Before eight and nine could be tied. And they went with head-to-head matchups, conference record. We need more games. Division record. We need more games so we can make more money. That's what it's about, ultimately, for a bunch of badass fucking teams. Listen, I'm going, the season before that.
Starting point is 02:33:24 Motherfuckers suck. The West Coast, right? The AFC, the Clippers. Fuckers. They were nine games away from first place. Eight spot. Ten spot, who gets to fight for their position, was 20 games away from first. They were 11 games behind, but they get to play for someone's spot.
Starting point is 02:33:47 Losers. That's what I'm saying. We know who the winner is, but I'm allowed to gamble with your money. Obviously, I'm going to do it. I get to gamble with your shit. I just won a championship. I just won a championship last year. Why do you guys get a chance at my shot? Why do you guys get a chance at my shot?
Starting point is 02:34:05 Why do you guys get a chance at my title? Which teams? Any of you motherfuckers. All of them? All y'all lost, right? Why do you get a second shot at my title? You don't get to play another fucking series. So we get to play another season. You don't get to play another series. This is another season. So you're asking, no.
Starting point is 02:34:21 I'm the champ. Your statement says... Why do you guys get to keep trying to beat... Your state because the champions is a different champion every that's just stupid What's that? So you what? Go from 11 to 1 the system to use the Rockets you know from but they Rockets at two years ago So they don't know They was 13th Now they to their They're two.
Starting point is 02:34:45 Now they two. Two. They turned it around. Yes. Right. So if they had a chance to play in the play-in game in between that. In between that two. In between.
Starting point is 02:34:54 They didn't. And they could beat somebody. They get in the playoffs. It has nothing to do with anything. It has everything to do. That's the reason it's there. It's there to activate the team. Hypothetically.
Starting point is 02:35:03 Hypothetically. You think they're supposed to be there. You brought up a team that's 13. You got to to be there. You bought up a team that's 13. You said it was in 13th place. Yeah. What are you talking the fuck about here? It was a joke. It's an unrealistic statement.
Starting point is 02:35:16 It's not an unrealistic statement. It's a joke. Of course it's unrealistic. They ain't got a chance to do shit but go pick the guy that they picked in the fucking lottery at 13th. So. Dog, listen. Call it they got a chance to do it.
Starting point is 02:35:29 The 2014-15 Mavs won 50 games. They will be playing in the play-in game. That's stupid. Against a team that won 39. That's stupid. Go beat them. That's fucking stupid. So we asked the chat.
Starting point is 02:35:44 The money grab. Should the NBA have the play-in tournament? 57% of the chat said no. 50, what's so funny is 50. So let me ask y'all, is it obvious? Kane would like to know, is it obvious? Is it obvious? Seven, damn, in the West, the seventh seed had a 50. Can we ask the chat if it's obvious? No, please. The, the seventh seed had a 50.
Starting point is 02:36:05 Can we ask the chat if it's obvious? No, please. The third team in the East had 50. We got shit to do. It's fucking 215. And we do it, but, Kane, we love being here. We are a family here at Gills Arena, presented by $100. Woo woo.
Starting point is 02:36:17 Woo woo. It's only an East. What's so funny is the West Coast, it's a big separation in the West. It's the East Coast that's the problem. They fucking suck. Yeah, it's the East that's the problem. The East does East Coast. That's the problem. They fucking suck. Yeah, it's the East That's the problem. He's does The number one see fucking badass fucking best in the West. Yeah anywhere anywhere compare number one. See I'm playing a number AC
Starting point is 02:36:34 Yeah, my plan the suck team. Yes. All right. What the fuck is the point about you're gonna play the suck team Anyway, so what if I'm allowed to play the fuck? What if I'm the AFC but I'm allowed to play for your spot because I'm only six games away from it? It's weird, man. And I beat you. You can play for it in a seven-game series. What is weird is promoting losing basketball is fucking weird. If I'm in the eighth seed and I'm allowed now to play you for your number one seed,
Starting point is 02:37:00 that's OKC's been number one the whole season, and the eighth seed is allowed to play one game against him They're trying to beat him. Let's say Shay takes the fucking day off and it gets smacked. They deserve to be the AFC now Why do you go out of the playoffs? I don't know mother might have heard his ankle That's a bad decision. That's it's a dumb thing It's a dumb decision. Don't take a day off You got a motherfucker worst team in the... You got a motherfucker coming here and beat you.
Starting point is 02:37:26 You can go home. Why the fuck would you take a day off? Because it's not... It's something I don't take serious. Right. So you take number one. The number one seed going to take the number eight seed serious, right? When we start, you take us serious because we're number eight.
Starting point is 02:37:39 Right? Now, what I'm saying is all the dumb, sorry-ass, bum teams are fighting for eight. So whoever ends up eight is going to be sorry anyway is what he's saying. They just suck anyway. It is a mid-off. So what the fuck is the problem? A mid-off for the eighth spot. Let's figure out who sucked the most.
Starting point is 02:37:54 We had 82 games to figure that out. We had 82 games. We had 82 games to figure it out. How many teams, like think about it, how many teams, how many bad teams, eight, seven, six, have won the first game? Now, imagine if that was actually the elimination game. History changes. It would be unfortunate.
Starting point is 02:38:12 So, we asked the chat, is it obvious? Right? No, it's missing, man. Philadelphia 76ers, didn't they win that game one against the Lakers? They lost 4-1. Yes. Didn't they win the first game? They did.
Starting point is 02:38:23 Game over. Can't do it. There's a reason there's a series now because the best team's supposed to survive. It's easy to beat one team in one win. So the fact that 9 and 10 is playing 7 and 8 just makes it a sin. You got 37 fucking wins.
Starting point is 02:38:38 37 wins. We asked the chat, is it obvious? 37 fucking wins. 80% said it is. So let's move on to Mostly Fancy. You don't even know what it means. I have no idea. You never know what's obvious. You never know.
Starting point is 02:38:51 It is obvious. Because the creator created it, so it is whatever I say it is. Mm-hmm. Hey, hey, hey. Is it fucking obvious? Liam and Berm said... Two white men, wow.
Starting point is 02:39:06 Get the fuck out of here. No, no, no. Get the fuck out of here. We ain't doing this shit. We got 10 tickets, so that means 80 of y'all. Fuck off. 10? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:15 That ain't enough. No, it's enough. That ain't enough. Only real, true... It's only two of us, really. I thought it was underdog. Yeah, so we got 10 tickets to all the Laker games. Wait, all of them? I got to know that. I didn't hear that part of it. That's underdog yeah so we got 10 tickets to the all the Laker games wait all the playoffs you gotta know that I got it I didn't hear that part of it good that's a little bit different you got a regular day I scout
Starting point is 02:39:34 mine okay please oh man actually we don't need that energy in the suite I'm sorry chat I'm watch the game on MoveAround TV. So we got one question from Underdog User Soul Fresh. P-H R-E-S-H Soul Fresh. Why don't we see more offensive innovation from coaches? Copycat League.
Starting point is 02:40:00 It is a Copycat League. Simple. Simple. So if they see something that works, hey, shoot a copycat league. Facts. Simple. Simple. So if they see something that works, hey, shoot a bunch of threes. It worked for one team. Shoot a bunch of threes.
Starting point is 02:40:11 Shit, they shooting a bunch. The thing is, like, it worked for that team. Like, we ain't got the same players. Like, we don't, like, IQ different, talent level different, skill. It's just, we don't, like, all, it's a copy level different, skill. It's just, we don't, like, all, it's a copycat league, man. Just, fuck, simple, plain and goddamn simple, right? Somebody drafted a big to try to stop Shaq,
Starting point is 02:40:36 and motherfucker like, everybody draft big. Steph starts shooting that bitch, yeah, it's just copycat lead, man. They literally made an analytics off of Curry, Klay, and KD. Because they shot 25 to 33s. These are two or three of the best shooters in the NBA. Two of them is calling history. I mean, there's 5,000 players that ever played. These are, two of them can argue top two, top three.
Starting point is 02:41:23 KD can argue top ten. And you decide that you think them sorry motherfuckers on your team that's taking five threes a game, five threes in practice, think they can just shoot 14 threes a game? And you're about to have success with that? That is, that is the, that's like, that's like doing an algorithm of mid-range off of Michael Jordan and Kobe. Like, yeah, you see Michael Jordan's doing from the mid-range and Kobe doing from the mid-range, what about you do it? Bitch, y'all about to go 32% from the goddamn field.
Starting point is 02:41:57 This is the dumbest shit ever. But they see somebody else have success, they want to jump on the bandwagon. Yeah, they just changed, like, it's the same place. They just change the name of the motherfuckers. Right? Instead of a 77 double drag, they might 66
Starting point is 02:42:15 or some shit like this. 25 double drag. Yeah. Because you're number 25. So, yeah, whatever, it's just same shit, man. They want to run the pinch post. Instead of calling it sack, they call it jersey. Whatever. It's the same thing, man.
Starting point is 02:42:32 KYP. Yeah. KYP, know your personnel. Coach your team, man. Coach your team. You walk in there every single day. You know who can and who cannot do what. You watch them practice every single day, you know who can who cannot do what you watched in practice every single day You know the position that you were you should know the position that you should put your team in to be successful
Starting point is 02:42:52 You should know those things but imagine imagine a I team that went to the finals and they got to shoot 43s again on that note a productive day here hey I'm gonna be so fucking pissed off Aaron McKee out there Eric Snow out there chucking a motherfucking three child you have a message for the people before we depart well just want to talk about that coaching shit um Luca I thought he said Luca my bad Coaches are afraid of the innovation because they don't have no imagination. Like we talk about the game and you talk about getting people open, you talk about studying the game, you talk about drawing a play up from scratch, execution, preparation, attention to detail, all these small things.
Starting point is 02:43:52 Look, I like to talk hoop, so becoming a coach or being a consultant or advisor for young players or teach them how to play the game the right way is important. So coaches need to definitely open up their eyes and be more imaginative with exploring different things offensively to get guys open and stop just being the copycat lead, thinking everybody should just shoot threes. Experiment, try to get this new shit going. If you're gonna change the fucking game, change the fucking game, please. Because this shit right now, we in a void
Starting point is 02:44:23 and we need to do something. On that note, appreciate everybody in the chat for rocking with us. Gil, appreciate you for sobering up for the end of the show. It was a very productive day. I'm not sobering. Not even close. Well, hey. I'm going to just be honest with you. The shot took him over the top. I'm going to just be honest with you, fam. For us
Starting point is 02:44:40 who's going to be winning the championship, you are disloyal today. 2-2-2. You know it's Luka Day, man. Can I still get my ticket? Yeah, I'm going to be winning the championship. You are disloyal today. 2-2-2. You know it's Luka Day, man. Can I still get my ticket? Yeah, I'm going to give you the ticket. It's Luka Day tomorrow. He's going back to Dallas. No, we...
Starting point is 02:44:51 We're saving that... Facts! Saving that energy, Gil. Oh, man. Saving the energy for... Oh, I'm glad I'm not here tomorrow. No, Kenny, we are bringing you to the show. We're sending a card to you,
Starting point is 02:44:59 how you can bring Jack in. I mean, I'm celebrating... We got a referee for you. I'm celebrating the rest of the year, man. God is good. We appreciate everybody on this couch. Appreciate all y' rest of the year, man. God is good. We'll appreciate everybody on this couch. Appreciate all y'all in the chat. NBA season?
Starting point is 02:45:09 Huh? NBA season? Yeah, celebrate. We won. Y'all won. Shout out to Underdog for the Lakers. That includes the finals. Thank you very much.
Starting point is 02:45:17 Ten tickets every day. How do you think Donahue gonna come back and coach? Who? Donahue. We can put a call out there. We do have technology. We're off what? The series. What's up, Mom out there. We do have technology. We're off what? The series.
Starting point is 02:45:26 What's up, Mom? Hi, Aria. For real. Raya. Raya. You know they're Laker fans, right? Mm-hmm. They will be.
Starting point is 02:45:37 This has been another episode of Gills Arena presented by Underdog. Whoa, whoa. We will see y'all tomorrow. We will see y'all tomorrow. We will see y'all tomorrow.

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