Gil's Arena - NBA FINALS GAME 3 Post Game Show

Episode Date: June 8, 2023

NBA Finals Game 3 is here and Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew are throwing a watch party to give reactions and takes to Game 3 of The NBA Finals LIVE!! The Miami Heat and Denver Nuggets are lo...oking to take control of the series and get Jimmy Butler or Nikola Jokic one step closer to an NBA Championship. Sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code GILSARENA and get a $100 first deposit match: https://play.underdogfantasy.com/p-gi... Gil’s Arena premieres every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday at 11:30am PT / 2:30pm ET. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:48 Gil! Gil! Gil! Welcome to the Gills Arena Game 3 Post Game Show presented by the dog fantasy, Whoop Whoop! Them Woofs didn't have a lot of energy much like this game. Cause we missing one person from the Whoop Whoop. Who? Who you missing? We got Gilbert Arenas here, we got Brandon James, we got Rashad McKenzie. I'm missing one person from the whoop whoop. Oh. Who you missing?
Starting point is 00:02:28 We got Gilbert Redis here, we got Brandon James, we got Rashad McKenzie. Who did you miss? Who did you miss? We missing one whoop. I can't get a whoop. We missing one whoop. We missing one whoop. The sound barrier is off.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Yeah, you needed the bass. There's a little weak on this side. We need your bass. We need your bass. We got Miko Grimes here. We got Kenyon Martin on the top. We missing one. We missing one.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Wait, so are you a Nuggets fan, Heat fan? Can you say that? I'm a Nuggets fan today. I have to do reverse psychology. Anything to get you a win right there. Yeah, yeah. I'm fucking with it. I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I'm fucking with it. Oh, that's why they... Did they leave Jamal Murray in the game so he could get a triple double? Yep. They left him in there because he played like shit. You ain't see what he was doing? You ain't see what he was doing? He rebounds.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Oh, yeah. I'm fucking with it. I don't even know. I'm fucking with it. Oh, that's why they, did they leave Jamal Murray in the game so he could get a triple-double? Yep. They left him in there because he played like shit. You ain't see what he was doing? You ain't see what he was doing? In rebounds. Oh. You didn't see how he was doing it though?
Starting point is 00:03:13 Joker and Murray, first teammates to get a triple-double in the NBA finals game. Who was that, who was that, all those homies? If you're the Heat, how do you feel? That's the part from Monte Morris, right? Yeah. If you're the Heat, how do you feel about the team leaving part from Monte Morris, right? If you're the Heat, how do you feel about the team leaving Jamal Murray in scrub minutes to get this triple-double?
Starting point is 00:03:29 That's disrespectful. No, it's not. He played really bad game two. That's a mental note right there. Really bad. You're not coming out. You're not coming out. You play bad.
Starting point is 00:03:38 What you going to do about it? Watch game four. I mean, listen. What happened last, the last fourth quarter, right? I'm not gonna do that again I'm not gonna have one of my guys sitting out even though he was in when it asked what was When he was coming back, but I'm going Karma man, it's called Joker and Jamal Murray both play 44 minutes in the game
Starting point is 00:03:58 We got a lot to talk about our show but both play 44 minutes that gonna be any issue for them We're game for on Friday If it is a three days off no Both play 44 minutes. Is that going to be any issue for them with game four on Friday? If it is, ain't. Three days off? No, two. They got two. It's on Friday.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Today's Wednesday. Oh. Today's Wednesday. Man, listen, that shit don't phase me. They're going to watch them shoot some free throws, go out by the pool and kick their feet up in the Miami Sun, man. Well, I hope they don't get outside and get in a bullshit. No, they're going to stay at the pool. No, go stay at that Four Seasons.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Go stay at that Four Seasons. They good. Wherever they stand, they're going down to the pool, Now go stay at that Four Seasons. They're good. Wherever they stand, they're going down to the pool, man. They're gonna kick their feet up. Somebody's gonna get a good book. They're gonna watch some iPad or something. Call them Work Up. Call them Work Up.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Spark Up. Spark Up. Spark Up. Spark Up. Spark Up. Spark Up. Spark Up. Spark Up.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Spark Up. Spark Up. the call. Room service. Hey, my boy. Call it touch season. Not in room service at the hotel, like all that. During the playoffs, I wouldn't eat room service. Not at all. Why, were you scared? Yeah. What? That they'll do to me? Yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Oh, crazy. In the room service? But if you go out somewhere, they see you, so what do you do? Nah, I can know. Send somebody out. Room service, they know you are there. Okay, so what do you do? Send somebody.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Me and, we're playing Chicago. Me and Larry ordered chicken nuggets. Both had diarrhea the whole time. Oh my God. I mean, from McDonald's? No, room service chicken nuggets. Our stomach was tore up. Why you getting room service chicken nuggets?
Starting point is 00:05:20 Did y'all have alias? I mean, they said at the restaurant. No, we didn't have alias. I didn't have an alias. We didn't have the alias at the time. See, that's the difference. Oh yeah, you gotta get an alias. We didn't have an alias. I had an alias. I didn't have said at the really I didn't have a we didn't have a difference. Oh, yeah, you gotta get alias When the price is right as a rookie No as a rookie
Starting point is 00:05:44 You gotta have your name. I mean, after my seventh, after the 55, they was like, yeah. I didn't give a fuck. You're still a rookie. You're still a rookie. You're going to have your name on that sheet. So when I look at the room sheet, I know why. You know where the rookie's at.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Oh, B. Jennings. I need you to go get my sheet. Oh, yeah. I don't need to be guessing. Like, damn, is this? Who's Coco Bane right here? Yeah, who's Coco Bane? need to be guessing like, damn, is this uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:06:09 uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I was Mr. Noon, but it was Mr. No One. And then after my first All Star, going into 2005, my name wasn't on the room list.
Starting point is 00:06:31 You had to hit me personally. Not even on the list. Because what happened was, you know, the girls would get in the rooms, and then they'd look and see who's who. Boop, boop, boop. I was like, man, I can't keep that. Y'all had wild experiences. Yeah, yeah, I can't keep it. Y'all had some wild experiences. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Where my bitches? My room was on a different floor. This sounds like situations going on right now around the league. Other work could just come on. Mine was on a different floor. To put my room on a different floor. I'm not staying in the room with you heathens. Presidential suite.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I was in presidential suite. When did you make that move? Um, 2000... 2006, my new negotiation on my contract. So before that, you were just standard? But before that, a polling was giving me presidential. Oh, still? Damn. Did the other guys on the team know about that?
Starting point is 00:07:17 They salty? No, because that's where the strip club party went. Yeah. Car games. I was salty, though. That's where the car games were. Whoever got the biggest room. Whoever got the biggest room. talking about the biggest And that's what a room bill
Starting point is 00:07:33 No, I'll try to be like I want to sweep this time you talk to the dude like send me over to sweep that shit Wearing on that wallet by nigga. They start charging that shit to your chid and like certain city Yeah, man, this shit a little too much for my little rookie contract like certain cities yeah i would get the suite for sure yeah you got to manly new york la no there were a few suites but we know we had sweet on my own teams i was on were y'all hitting the mini bar or y'all bring sure you know were they paying for the mini bar y'all had to pay for it i never used to check out i used to just go that's what i never yeah you won on the plane nigga. It was it was we going to sizzler. We're going to sizzler went on the plane Hey drinks on me. The situation was different in Denver far as like we had yeah. Y'all had too many guys
Starting point is 00:08:20 He needed sweet he needed sweet He needed sweet how y'all decide who had the best sweet? There's only like two, three sweets in there, motherfucker. Just, who? He was, he don't get dibs. With no dibs? I don't get dibs. Nigga, I was there first.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Oh. Nigga, I ain't no slouch. I'm making the max, nigga. What y'all talking about? He stopped here first. I got first. Don't let that shit fool you. Like, I, hey.
Starting point is 00:08:45 But you had priority on the room? Marcus Camby was there. It was me, MC, me, Melo, then AI came. Oh yeah, he's, no, he's. So you were trumping all those dudes? You trumping Melo? No, I'm getting mine no matter what. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Whatever else happened with everybody else, Ken ain't got nothing to do with it. Cause if I don't, I got something to say. That's all. Every city, some cities, like we go, I'm not making a big deal if we go to Oklahoma City and they ain't got no suite. Or if we go to Sacramento and ain't got no suite.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I'm not making a big deal about it. Are they telling you first? That's where you gotta make a big deal. I'm not even expecting it. There's only a certain amount, there's only one nice hotel and I'm not, if I get it that's, I'm not even tripping. There's only a certain amount, there's only one nice hotel, and if I get it that time, I'm not even tripping. So you don't be tripping.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Or, totally circumvent it. If I can get a suite, all right, give me the room with the conjoined, give me the, with the door in the middle, I'll make a suite. Brandon, where do people stay there? Because I went to Milwaukee. The Fister.
Starting point is 00:09:42 And I didn't ever see any. It was the Fister. The Fister. That's the only one? The Fister or the Intercont any. It was the Fister. The Fister. That's the only one? The Fister or the Intercontinental. It was the Fister. Intercontinental too. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I stayed in the Fister when I signed my two 10 days I was in the Fister for 21 days. Yep, that big ass lobby. I had four rooms in the Fister. When I signed my 10 day, I had four different rooms in the Fister. I went to Green Bay. I got stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I mean, the hotels was like two and three star hotel. Oh yeah, yeah, Green Bay, yeah. I was so mad. Yeah. And then they got them bleachers. That shit was nasty up there. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't start cracking for me on the road
Starting point is 00:10:15 till Steven Jackson got there. Then I started seeing like, okay, yeah, this is how I gotta start. Different kind of movement. Yeah, this is how I gotta start moving. What was it about Stack? He just didn't care. And then this was during the time when he was putting out
Starting point is 00:10:29 his mixtape. So he was on the road doing concerts and stuff on the road. So we would be like, and this was the lockout year too. 2011? Yep, uh-huh, yeah, during the lockout. So he was coming in and we was just always on the road. So I was like, OK. See, our wild boy was Deshaun Stevenson. Yeah. He was our in and we was just like always on the road. So I was like, okay. You see our wall boy was Deshaun Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Yeah. He was our party boy. D Steve. Yeah. Other than that, our whole team was kind of mellow. Yeah. Our whole team was kind of mellow. I wish.
Starting point is 00:10:58 And it's Wednesday. We used to do White Guy Wednesday on the show. We got to talk about Christian Brown just a little bit. Came through, 15.7 for eight, four rebounds, 19 minutes. Would you say he was one of the difference makers? Obviously, Joker. Yeah, he was a big factor. Especially since Michael Porter Jr. ain't being a factor in this series right now.
Starting point is 00:11:21 You need that third person that can give you a little boost, you know, points that you wasn't expecting that would have went to him. Someone gave it. And that's, that's, that's part of the game. This is his game. And hopefully someone else steps up next game. Hopefully it's Michael Porter Jr.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Oh, hit two shots early and they can keep me in the game a little bit. A big part of why they're in there. And you know what's crazy? Like watching them a lot more now, like I understand why they in the game a little bit. A big part of why you know what's crazy like watching them a lot more now like I understand why they made the trade for bones. Like I don't think it fits their style like like their style of play. But they're so like dialed in and stuff like bones a little bit more like you know freestyle.
Starting point is 00:11:58 So I can understand why now they made the move. They made that man fly home commercial after you got in trouble with it. It actually helps you because what they get back, they got back another athlete who can duck in. You know what I'm saying? What'd you say, Joe? So Bones got into it, and they made him fly home commercial. What's wrong with that?
Starting point is 00:12:16 I'm just saying. What's wrong with that? At least give him first class. What's wrong with that? You paid for your own fucking ticket home. You want to pay for it? Cool. No.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Wait, hold on. They made a fly home commercial? He got into it. Listen, you can't make somebody fly home commercial. You can book them a commercial flight. I had teammates miss the team flight. You got to find your way. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you went commercial on your own.
Starting point is 00:12:41 He was available for the team flight, and I think they said, you got to, you're not riding on the team. That's fine. I would have flew first class. I'm sorry. No matter where you fly. Southwest me.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I mean, that's Southwest first class. Listen, we ain't finna be 35,000 feet in the air, and you decide to spaz the fuck out on this bitch and open the door on this bitch or something. No. Wild. No, we're not doing that. What did he need to do? Start with you, Rashad.
Starting point is 00:13:03 What did he need to do in game four to get back on the right track? Get that big, but you got the big face. Let's hear this. You got the big face coffee, but you got the Joker on there. So I feel like there's a deeper meaning with the shirt right now.
Starting point is 00:13:14 So we're, and you got the Joker mask. Where are we going with this? Joker to the heat? Nah, hell nah. He loves Joker. We got a tall task ahead of us. You know what I'm saying? And Batman knows.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Batman knows. We got to fucking get our shit together. Like I said, the first game, they shouldn't have played that dirty-ass zone. They got beat up, spit out. Second game, they waited until the end to play it, and it worked out. They got to see something they didn't see before was as an opening and win the game Still one exactly what I said, he's still one or two in Denver. We got a chance what they showed tonight is just
Starting point is 00:13:55 Lack of communication man. They just let the young fella not supposed to come in there and do shit They got a they got to get that veteran shit and knock something some sense into the nigga but other than that, I think the next approach is going back to game two trying to figure out how to play the same way You played in game Me that's the game we won we got fair how to win another game and we steal this next one We're doing just a better fucking team. They are it's calling what it is But we've been the best team in the league all year long another game. If we steal this next one, we good. Them just a better fucking team. They are. Let's call it what it is. But we gonna play. They been the best team in the league all year long.
Starting point is 00:14:28 It ain't gonna stop right now. They got they game. Let's call it what it is, man. They got they game. Yeah, I mean, I- Them up 15, listen. Them people nine or whatever it is, and oh, at home. They played, Miami played well in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And you know, in the fourth quarter game too. To do what they had to do to get that win. Them people was up 15. We all watching that game. Everybody watching that game. Denver go up 15. We all sitting there like, oh they about to put these people away.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Wasn't a soul like, Miami gonna come back. Even Heath fans sitting there just like, oh shit. Sitting there the whole time like we need a stop. That sound good. We need a stop. Now that you time like, we need a stop. That's sound. We need a stop. Now that you on camera, that shit sound good. 15, I was saying it when I was watching it, and I'm saying it now.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I'm standing on my seat. Are you standing on that y'all going to win two in Miami? You said y'all was going to win two in Miami. They got a lot of stops. You got a guy who got 13 points and two in a minute. We had to get stops to come back. They called two timeouts. They didn't recall two timeouts in 40 seconds.
Starting point is 00:15:28 40 seconds in the quarter because what's the name came in so we threes that they wasn't expecting had to get stops to get those shots up. It's just we had to get stops to get to get the lead. Like then we went up but it wasn't the nobody. But it wasn't the team or the team play. No, your people are talking about. No, it ain't about what it ain team play that people are talking about. No. It ain't about what people are talking about, though.
Starting point is 00:15:49 It wasn't Jimmy Butler. They're not talking about the truth. It wasn't Vic in the game. It was none of the starters in the game. It don't have to be. It's a team. The team figures it out on their own. They figure it out as they play.
Starting point is 00:16:01 They figured it out. They got it done. They got it done. They didn't figure nothing out. They just shot threes. No, that's not what happened. Time out. Came back. This is what happened in game two. Like he did just now. He just come in the game. They're losing.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And he just chucked threes. Last game he made them. This game he made two. Did he do it in Boston too? I think he did it in Boston too. Come in the game. Hit some shots. Brung them back. Yes, he did. Game two was a wake-up call for Denver. They smacked them around in the first game. They came out in the second game.
Starting point is 00:16:30 They left them open in those same shots in game two that they had in game one. They hit them in game two. Simple as that. They played lazy. They didn't do anything on defense, and they're already a bad defensive team. And they left them in that game,
Starting point is 00:16:44 and that's why they lost by three they needed that wake-up call sometimes you need to get your ass warped for you to realize like i'm bullshitting let me go ahead and knock these motherfuckers out yeah there was there was when i was watching the game film there was a problem with um the pick pick and roll right so usually when the um the guard is coming to set the pick. Pick and roll. Right? So usually when the guard is coming to set the pick, I'll yell out switch. Right?
Starting point is 00:17:09 But they was doing what Vrazial always did. He's running into the pick. I'm yelling switch, but he slips it and it's not a pick. And... Y'all off.
Starting point is 00:17:18 We're off. Yes. Because I called a switch, but the guy who's getting picked didn't feel it, so he's not switching. Guy slipped it and they got threes like that. Other than that, they played great. And calling the switch but Mike the guy who's getting picked didn't feel it. So he's not switching guy slip it and they got threes like that. Other than that, they played great and calling the switch
Starting point is 00:17:29 pre calling this switch prematurely. Yep. I'm saying I'm not calling it to you. I see you said it. Mm-hmm. That's a that's an understanding that you have though, but it was smart, but it was a little slick play that Miami did that they capitalize on they cleaned it up
Starting point is 00:17:45 Denver cleaned it up in the ghost screen thing. They come by rub you tap you in They grump I tap you turn and now you wide open over like No, listen, if I don't say I'm calling it out every time just communication aspect of it, but the shit over in five. My thing is this. Nuggets in five. Your problem was you were playing too small, right? Every quarter you've been beat up is because you're playing too small.
Starting point is 00:18:15 The only reason that you have this illusion that what you did was working is because you came back in the fourth. When you come back in the fourth, it's all guards. But that means that it was working. So why are you starting Kevin Love anyway then? Yeah, because they thought they had something. They thought they saw something.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Because it worked out in the first quarter. If you're playing him in the first quarter and you're doing well, why isn't he finishing the game? Because the game changes in the fourth quarter. Oh, Gil. The game changes in the fourth quarter. It's not the same game that it is in the first that it is in the fourth. That's why you start with K. Love to off balance him and Aaron Gordon being able to rebound get secure
Starting point is 00:18:53 possessions. Once you secure possessions, you get killed in the fourth quarter. That's why we need to change the strategy now. We've seen that we can't last in the fourth now. You're losing. You're the same guy that you're worried about in the first quarter. When does the game work? Yes, because you're not with the same strategy that you had in the first. You've changed the strategy. That's why. But that's why they're getting their ass whooped.
Starting point is 00:19:16 No, the reason why Aaron Gordon played well is because they took the same strategy of having K-Love in. They took him out, and he has a more open floor when K. Love is out. It's smaller people in the game. That's what I'm saying. So, now hear what I'm saying. So, if the game is won in the fourth quarter, why isn't he playing in the fourth?
Starting point is 00:19:34 That's why I said, he's not, that they need to change the strategy, because they didn't go with the same strategy. They need to change that shit. That's not the only, they would've changed it in the fourth quarter. Nuggets and fives. No, they would've changed it in the fourth quarter, Nuggets and fives. No, they would have changed it in the fourth quarter
Starting point is 00:19:46 last game if what's the name didn't come back. Right, but that's the thing. We had that so we didn't need to change that strategy. We had Duncan Robinson to give us points. We had the stops but we needed points. This time we didn't get no points. Look, I'ma let y'all argue amongst yourselves. I gotta go tend to the family.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I'll be back on this couch though tomorrow, Gil. You knew he had to leave, Gil. Don't fire me. Don't make that face. Don't fire me. Look at Gil, he mad. Hold on, let me just, I'm gonna. No, because you about to talk for 20 minutes, Gil.
Starting point is 00:20:16 You already know what you about to do. He's scratching his ear. So. He about to get in it. We didn't do the show earlier because you had shit to do. I had to go to a funeral, Gil. You had to go to a funeral, yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:26 On a Wednesday. And then now we switched it for you today. And now y'all get to stay? It's Hooper Circle, Intimate. You're leaving again. What's a good funeral day? What's a good funeral day? He said Wednesday. I thought it was like Friday or Saturday or Sunday. What's a good funeral day? What's a funeral day? What's a good funeral day? What's a good funeral day? What's a funeral day?
Starting point is 00:20:45 He said Wednesday. I thought like it's like a Friday or Saturday or Sunday. I don't know. What's a Wednesday? Midweek. On a Wednesday. Midweek. Oh.
Starting point is 00:20:53 You had the audacity to schedule the funeral on a Wednesday. No, no. I'm like, man, this is like, because I thought like everybody's supposed to be off work or something. No. You do it. You do it. So they can get off work. He say, on a Wednesday, nigga?
Starting point is 00:21:05 Like, wait, was something wrong? Like, you just said, I thought it was like a one-way thing. Maybe that's when they can only afford it. That's the day they could do it. But y'all talk amongst yourselves. I will be back on this couch Thursday, bright and early, normal show time. I'm thinking Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I'm thinking Wednesday. Y'all say goodnight to my son. My god. What's up? What's up? Yo, what up? All right, Aiden, bye. I'm gonna hit you up tomorrow, okay?
Starting point is 00:21:28 Okay, love you. It's on you. I'm comfortable. It's on you, girl. I'll sit there. Have at it, woman. Let's go. Yeah, but.
Starting point is 00:21:35 This is where I belong anyway, so I can. Yeah, but yeah. Actually, here all y'all. Gil think you feel, you think you're wedding. No, because I'm the same way about people that have weddings on Fridays. I'm like, who the fuck has a wedding on a Friday?
Starting point is 00:21:49 But you can't, a funeral on Wednesday, that's normal. Middle of the week. That's normal. You always think. Those are actually the best days, because they're open. What time? Anytime.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Like 11.30. I got work. We know what day this is. Get off. Get off. The death of the family is coming back. Get off. What balls? Right there, don't tell off. There's something, the death of the family. So what's happening? So let me ask you this. They good.
Starting point is 00:22:05 What boss? Right at 12. If you say you got a funeral to attend. You still gotta come to work. You still gotta come to work. I never even really thought of it. I just thought everything. Cause you different.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I just thought every barbecue, everything. I thought just like weekend shit. No. Funerals on Sundays is the church. Because if somebody, so normally there's a week two weeks Yeah So you have time to tell you about this. I have a funeral to go to on June 23rd I never today's the set. I'm gonna say the seven. I have a funeral June 23rd You think your balls gonna tell you fuck that funeral. You gotta be here.
Starting point is 00:22:45 You gotta be here to flip this burger. I know it makes sense, but the concept of anything like that important on a weekday just seemed weird. I've never been to a funeral. You can tell he knows. Never? That's crazy. You don't want to see that.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I'm the same way. I don't do well at them, but I've been to them. I've been to one. I want to remember you. Sometimes the funeral isn't always about the person that passed. Sometimes it's about supporting the person that's hurting the most that they're there. You know? What if I'm hurting?
Starting point is 00:23:16 Sometimes I have to hold the family member's hand while the funeral's going on. It's not even about me. It's about the person grieving. To your point, so people around me know this about me. I'm about the person grieving. So, to your point. So people I'm around, they know this about me. Like, I'm... Weddings and funerals. I gotta be really, really, really close to you. Man, that's about the weddings.
Starting point is 00:23:33 For me to go to your wedding or your funeral. Yeah. Because I don't... The highs and the lows of it, right? I don't ever get here and I hate going there. You know what I'm saying? So I'm... Yeah, he's like to stay right in the middle. Like, I wanna see... I hate going there. You know what I'm saying? So I'm... Yeah, he's like to stay right in the pit.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Like I wanna see, I wanna remember. Through it all, right? Through it all. Like even when they happy, they all, it's like. Yeah, but yeah. Like even Dan, I didn't go. Cause I wanna remember you, how you were. I don't wanna remember you in that state.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I'm with you. Cause I gotta live with that the rest of my life. But all four of them are open casket either. It don't matter, I'm gonna be in there. You might not even be a casket yet. When I think about it, I't open casket either. It don't matter, I'm nearly in there. You might not even be a casket yet. When I think about it, I don't wanna think of. It don't matter. I don't wanna think of the casket.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I bet your life would change if you got a funeral. That's why I gotta be real. Like I know people like they know abundance of people and all the time, I got a funeral to go to, I got a wake to go to, I got a funeral to go to. Yeah, that's a lot. If you pick out 50 people, it's not that much. No, I gotta be, I gotta really like, we gotta be there. Like for me to, we's a lot. If you got people talking that much. I'm not doing that. Like, no, I got to be, I got to really like,
Starting point is 00:24:25 we got to be there. Like, we got to be there. Because me being there, I just don't like it. I don't even see someone get old. A lot of people be using that shit for like, what is it called, what they call it, deaf trauma? It is though, that's what it is. What's that?
Starting point is 00:24:39 Like deaf trauma, people use deaf trauma to like, so like people like be hooking up at funerals and stuff, like because it's like deaf trauma, like you be feeling Oh my god, I'm so vulnerable. Vulnerable. Yeah. Yeah, women for women in Yeah, it didn't get right increases their little endorphins. Yeah, they get horny and stuff. Yeah, it's called like, No, no, no, but that's it.
Starting point is 00:25:00 It's real. It's called like deaf trauma or something. We the wedding crowd. I've never done it. I'm just saying. I'm like, aah. That's some real. Look, look at him. Look at him. Sold.
Starting point is 00:25:08 We got these niggas. Sold. We just gave these niggas the cash. We just gave these niggas the cash. He going like, you OK? Anybody got any money? You just put it around the corner. You pick up women.
Starting point is 00:25:16 You OK? Oh, he did. Look. Let me see the picture. Let me see the picture. Nah. There we go. We just gave these niggas the cash.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Oh my god. You can cry right here. Yeah, like no, for real. That's a real thing? They both know about this real. For sure, that shit is real. They know about it. For real.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Damn. You shouldn't be by yourself. I'm telling you, this is real. And that shit is sick to even want to do that. That is. Yeah, you got to be a scumbag to want to do that. You're a horrible human being. Yes a scumbag. Yeah, you gotta be a scumbag to do that. You're a horrible human being. Scumbag. B.J., you sound like you've done it before.
Starting point is 00:25:46 No, no, I know people that have done it. I know people that have done it. I've never done it. Why you gotta be so nasty, Ray? I have never done it. It's weird. It's weird, boy. So this is Wedding Crashers.
Starting point is 00:25:54 But it's real. That's a real thing? I don't know. This is Wedding Crashers Extended. That's why I don't be going to that shit. Let me be just like. Y'all really think it's gonna be like that? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't. That's a real thing. I don't know. This is wedding crashers extended. That's why I don't be going to that shit. Let me be just like. Y'all really think it's going to be game five? Game six. Five.
Starting point is 00:26:13 It's over in five in Denver. It has to be five. It's over. It's over. Can we talk? Rashad talked about what he should do. Anybody else want to say if there's anything that he could possibly do besides injure somebody or the referees come in and foul one of their big two out
Starting point is 00:26:29 or something like that? What is it that they can actually do? They always got a chance because of how they play. They gotta make shots. They got a chance because of how Heat culture is. They gonna always bring it no matter what. They gonna play hard, they gonna compete. But when the other team is doing that, what separates us? no matter what, they gonna play hard, they gonna compete.
Starting point is 00:26:50 But when the other team is doing that, what separates us? Talent. We all can play, but then now you, now all them undrafted guys start, what the fuck, I could've had this guy, I didn't spend no money here. Now all the head scratching might come into play. But ultimately, I just think Denver's a better team. Yeah, that's when the confidence coffee wear off, you know?
Starting point is 00:27:15 You know, the talent. Because it's like when they show up and we know what they can do, we get one, we like, all right, we know we can win. But at the end of the day, they are the better team. They got the more talent. It's only so much coffee we can fucking drink before we start getting the motherfucking shakes and shit. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:27:32 Motherfuckers get in there, like it's too, they don't know what to do now. So they gave me a little bit of that tonight. Like, it's, what do we do? And it's just like, I seen Denver come in with that poise, that championship poise, like, let's just do what we do. So it's scary. It's scary for Miami, because they are,
Starting point is 00:27:51 Denver is the better team, but it's just like, like Kenya said, the culture is never give up anyway. We're going to get one. If we can get two, let's get two. Let's not give up. But you know what I'm saying? Like, I know Gil always say, you can't win shit on all that,
Starting point is 00:28:03 but that shit don't matter. But it do matter for them because they not talented enough to have that talent confidence. They gotta have potential confidence. They gotta have, if we let this shit ride, we can show up, we can win, let's do it. You know what I'm saying? We gonna ride this bitch out to the end
Starting point is 00:28:20 at the end of the day. Long as we got one, we ain't get swept out this bitch like the goddamn Lakers. That's all I'm gonna goddamn say. We didn't get swept the fuck out of this motherfucker of the day. As long as we got one, we ain't get swept out this bitch like the goddamn Lakers. You have to put, that's all I'm gonna goddamn say. We didn't get swept the fuck out of this motherfucker under the table. You have to play, like the problem when you're less talented is like you have to play perfect, which is not a thing.
Starting point is 00:28:39 So like when Max gets his three shots, he at least has to go two for three. Right, when Duncan Robinson comes in, the open shots he makes, he has to make them. He don't have leverage. You're not that good to have leverage to miss shots. Michael Porter, you missed three shots. Get the fuck out. Because if I do that to you, who else am I coming in here with?
Starting point is 00:29:02 So you have to take and make the shots that are given to you. If you start missing, it's there we did. Because you got two. On the other end, you have two players. Worst case scenario, they're going to have about 50 combined. So you got to figure out how to, you know, cut through that gap. And it's just the obvious thing that you can point out to is you are eighth seed for a reason. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Like, just, no, no, no. Take nothing. They there. They are in the NBA finals. Yes. Absolutely. One seed, eighth seed. For a reason.
Starting point is 00:29:41 It's like the March Madness shit. That's all I'm saying. Like, at this moment, it's like Cinderella. It is. At this moment. It's like the March Madness shit. That's all I'm saying. Like March Madness. At this moment, at this moment, it is. In a tougher conference, all season long,
Starting point is 00:29:52 best player in the tougher conference, better roster overall, it's going to rear his head. I don't agree about that. It's going to rear his head. March Madness. No, it is. It's like the number one,
Starting point is 00:30:04 like Kansas number one all year. No, because it's- And then you got like a bad Carolina team, unranked, barely made it, and then they make it against them. But we know this is a mismatch. All season long, Kansas been Kansas. Carolina done beat some teams to get to this point. They beat some close teams, but once they get here,
Starting point is 00:30:22 we know this is not going to be a good game because they're not supposed to be here But it's easier for that game because it's one. Yeah, I just need to beat you one time when like so I don't need to be the best team. I just need to be the best team that night today today in the series The better team wins, right? That's right So I don't even out of that one game for for Kansas Carolina, right? Even if we play to the first of four wins, we know that the Kansas team is the better team.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Overall, yeah. Overall, we might get two. Maybe. But we know they're going to end up. Yeah, like I said, they've been the best team I've seen. So Denver played Jokic and Murray 44 minutes, right? They didn't take that break in the first quarter. They played Murray that whole fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Do you guys think that Denver has to keep that same thing in game four, or do you think they go back to where they get their proper subs and all that kind of stuff? No, what they... That two-minute span, it was a
Starting point is 00:31:18 two-minute span where Duncan Robinson shifted that game. He scored eight points. And he scored eight, but he assisted another one where he didn't assist it, but a cut, got a three, which is 11 points. And Joker, they put Joker in,
Starting point is 00:31:37 that's what they put Joker in within a minute and a half at the 10 minute mark, called two timeouts in 40 seconds. The game now gave that other team confidence. I don't think like I wouldn't have, like I said it, I'm not wrestling them. Y'all gonna play the whole game. Yeah, you got to. I'll take you guys out at the end when it's secure.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I am not ever in the fourth quarter giving them a chance again. Unless I need to call these timeouts early, I'm gonna save as many of them as I can when I need them. I'm gonna use them accordingly. I'm gonna give you guys a break here. I'm gonna call as many of them as I can when I need them. I'm gonna use them accordingly. I'm gonna give you guys a break here. I'm gonna call a timeout there, but I'm gonna need 44, 45, 46 from you tonight.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Right, and sending a message to them. That's what it is. It's a deep message, which is like, we not letting off the pressure on you motherfuckers. We gonna put pressure on you guys every quarter with the top guys. We not sitting them down. That put pressure on your bench,
Starting point is 00:32:25 cause now you used to a rotation coming in where we know your guys coming in, our guys coming in. Are you leaving them niggas in? So we gonna have to roll with our real scrub scrub. These are scrub scrubs. Against these niggas out here like, yo we don't have a chance. Now it come into this thing that they call coaching.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yep. Right? Right. All right. Right. All that talent on the floor, they're doing what they're doing, right? Who gonna help us be the difference? Who gonna separate, you know what I'm saying? A small, little small margin.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Right now, right? If you're, like okay, I see Miami's problem. They play, their two stars playing 44 minutes, your stars is playing 40 and 41. You're the less talented one. You don't have that up. You can't, you gotta play. You can't, you don't have the luxury to rest.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah. Right. You know, like, especially Jimmy, you don't have eight minutes. If that, if the other team is like, you're off the court eight minutes, the other stars is off the court four minutes. You have the less talent. So now you gotta find a way to circumvent,
Starting point is 00:33:27 like now you gotta find a way to match the minutes as much as you can. Right? I'm starting Jimmy, bam, I might take Jimmy out now. The quarter start, Jimmy I'm gonna take you out a little earlier. Maximize the last part of the quarter, start you the second part of the second quarter,
Starting point is 00:33:43 take you out around the nine minute mark, I might give you a minute and a half, two minutes. You're gonna rock the rest of the quarter, start you the second part of the second quarter, take you out around the nine minute mark, I might give you a minute and a half, two minutes. You're gonna rock the rest of the quarter. So now that's coaching, right? Now you gotta really, really game plan this thing out. And that's, I get what you're talking about, but Michael Malone been there already. They been on this stage Yeah some of these guys the heat they like Players themselves players themselves supposed to been there. Mm-hmm, but now it's trying to figure out this group of guys
Starting point is 00:34:15 I'm saying so can't coach every group of guys the same So look at how Jimmy and like you said Jimmy needs to play more than 40 minutes, right? But the reason why Jokic and Murray can play those bigger minutes is because they can take breaks because they got better players, right? So Jimmy has to take breaks because he can't play tired. If he plays tired,
Starting point is 00:34:35 it's worse for the team. So he has to take those breaks. That's just the other way around because the whole offense goes through those two guys. So they're in every possession. And their usage rate. Yeah, their usage rate is way higher than Jimmy's. No, I'm saying on the defensive end, they can take breaks because everybody can offset each other.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Offensively, they do what they need to do for that. They're in shape enough to carry the numbers. Because Jimmy decoys for most of the game, and you have Vincent, he can take rest off. But the problem is is he wants to guard the best player. Jimmy's playing both sides of the ball. And then what ends up happening is you already have the best. So this is what's
Starting point is 00:35:11 going on with Jimmy. He's the best. He's guarding the best guard. The second best player, the first best player. They're doing a pick and roll, switching on to the best player. So you're playing defense on his player. It's like guarding LeBron and switching on to AD or guarding AD, switching on LeBron. You can't do that and then
Starting point is 00:35:28 try to score. His usage rate is crazy. Well, AD might be a little easier. No, but what I'm saying is you're guarding one and two. Yeah. Right? So you have no rest. So you're being you're being, you're all 40 minutes on defense you're being used.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And in offense, you're wrestling on offense, they're wrestling on defense. They wonder why he. You need an office. You're trying you're resting on offense. They're rested on defense. You wonder why he wasn't in the end of the game today. You need it. Like there's no need to have him in the game right now. Like we've been using the hell out of it. Yep. I don't think we're going to win this game right now inside. I I'm gonna just sit him here. Let his legs get we're going to take these two and a half days.
Starting point is 00:36:04 We're going. Oh, he's, he needs the, oh man. I just, I didn't even think about it. Like he just don't got no help on that end where, like you said, that second guy, he don't got a second guy. Bam ain't the second guy. Bam ain't the second guy. No, but what I'm saying is like,
Starting point is 00:36:21 I'm not worrying about the off the D the defense. He's guarding the two best players every possession. Every possession. Right? And then one is beating you up on the body. He's going to work that body. Yes. Right?
Starting point is 00:36:34 Like, he's going to work that body every time he gets the ball against Jimmy. Yes. Now, you're talking about game three. Yes. Game four, Jimmy was shot 11 for 24 today, right? Yes. Horrible, right? He was limping. He was limping and going back. He was points
Starting point is 00:36:48 24 shots. Yeah, that's gonna affect him game for Game fight like he's gonna be worn out. He already worn out. He been carrying these niggas on his back since the Underground where you guys You gotta go back and play an altitude. Yeah, yeah to read them. Yeah to Who do you guys think the one day rest technically benefits most?
Starting point is 00:37:15 The Denver Nuggets. Even though they played the most they better conditioned. Yep. It's all that work. All that work the Miami Heat do, VersaClimber, all the extra cardio they do in Miami, great. They ain't playing a mile above sea level every day. They're not working out a mile above sea level every day.
Starting point is 00:37:37 People go to Denver, Colorado and fucking train for the Olympics. Train, for sure. I remember I had put the altitude in my house. Wow. Like, no, for real. I remember I had put the altitude in my house. Wow. Like, it's a difference. Boxes go there for training. You were sleeping in the altitude? Yeah, you were sleeping in the altitude.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I remember all that shit. We've been playing video games. Hey, that's rough, I ain't even gonna lie. I'd be asleep some days, you know, sleep with your mouth open and wake up like you about to die. Coughing and everything. Dry, dry.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Throat dry. And dried you out, just coughing. Yeah. Damn. Seven years of it. Let me say this, I had a gentlemen's sweep. I'm standing on that. Does anybody want to change their prediction?
Starting point is 00:38:16 First of all, you didn't have a gentlemen's sweep. You lost two. What are you talking about? Gentleman's sweep is you lose the first game. No, I thought it was just one. No, it's just five games. No, it's not. It's just five games.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Gentleman sweep, listen to what it sounds like. Gentleman sweep. It was courteous. That means you won one game, then you got swept. So then let me fix mine, then I had five. Denver, five. No, no, no, no, you had gentleman sweep. Because I had a different definition.
Starting point is 00:38:44 That's not our fault But okay So now that I know what you're doing it I can tell you that I would like it to be five because I didn't know The that will I say now I want to change my shit You had a regular sweet six. I did have a heat of six. You had a heat of six? I had a heat of six. You had a regular sweep. What'd you call? Did you call a sweep too?
Starting point is 00:39:07 He called five. A five? Yeah, I mean, so what you think? Denver is seven? You said Denver is seven? You done came over to the dark side? Yeah, yeah, yeah, look at that. When I found out that's who them Denver Nuggets was playing,
Starting point is 00:39:20 I was like, it's gonna fold one. I get a heat of game, because of who they are. Yeah, that's what I thought it was. Who they are. We'll's gonna fold. I get it here the game is who they are Who they take that game they got it we'll take it don't let us get another one Don't let us get another one. Best chance was something that all that's They talked I said didn't they But go home and get your ass beat like that? That's crazy. That game seven was so bad. That game seven was terrible.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah, you might as well just got swept. The best chance to win was tonight. They blew it. Get your ass out of the way. Yeah, they blew it. The best chance to win was tonight, bro. So most of the commentators had the heat win this game because they were going home.
Starting point is 00:39:59 They won that game too. That's why the commentators. That's why the commentators. What are they going to say now? What are they going to say now that this happened? Are they jumping back on the Nuggets? They're commentators because commentators watch the game.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Oh, y'all let Jokic score and all the points and I'm like, why would Jokic pass if he has easy dinner right here? If I have easy dinner right here and I'm scoring, why do I need to pass? You're giving me two easy points, I don't need to pass this ball, right?
Starting point is 00:40:28 It's just, but those are reporters that's not looking at the game, they're just looking at scoring, not understanding that I have the ball, oh, you're gonna give it, okay, why do I, I don't need to look, the only reason I'm looking is because you're doubling and I'm doing this, but other than that, you're giving me the same two points.
Starting point is 00:40:42 If you gonna put Gabe Vincent on me, why am I not gonna score? It's lunch meat. It's lunch meat all night. If I switch and I guard a Shaq, and it's like, look, they're just letting Shaq score. Oh, duh. In layman's terms, you're a wild animal.
Starting point is 00:40:58 The fucking giraffe right here. Why would I go hunt something he did? He did, yeah. I'm gonna go eat sharks, whale in the ocean that didn't die. They gonna feast. I'm not finna go hunting for dinner. He right here, and that's the same putting Gabe Vincent on him, putting all these smalls on him.
Starting point is 00:41:16 In these positions, fish food. You knew that they were gonna win. What did you do in the pickings here, underdog fantasy? Did you pick right? Did you win anything? Did you do in the pickings here, underdog fans? Did you pick right? Did you win anything? Did you win Rashad? No, we know him. Who won?
Starting point is 00:41:29 Like, when I seen his, and I was like, what did you say? You said something. He had some tricky shit this time. I didn't even know what that was. I said, wow. Did you say wow? I think I said wow. I said something.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And it made me feel some type of way. I was like, this nigga looked at my seat and was like, wow. I'm you said wow. I said something. And it made me feel some type of way because I was like, this nigga looked at my seat and was like, wow. I'm going to pick way opposite of this. No, no, no, because what happened is, like I'm looking at him and he had everybody under. Like every player, like he had every player. Of the who? Well, at the end of the day, all these players can't play bad games.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Somebody got to play good. Somebody got to play good. So I lost two. I might be wrong. You lost two? Brandon, did you pick? No, I didn't pick. God damn lost two. I might be wrong. You lost two? Brandon, did you pick? No, I didn't pick. God damn!
Starting point is 00:42:08 No, this ain't me. No, I didn't pick. That's you. I don't trust this series at all. Why, you won? Man, the series is a little weird, ain't it? I just want to see a good series, like something six or seven.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I lost everything. Damn. How much did you? How much money did you have? So I had Kevin Love, higher, 11.5 total. He didn't play enough. Nope.
Starting point is 00:42:30 I had Michael Porter Jr., higher at 14. I didn't think Jamal Murray would have two turnovers, he had seven. Damn. I had Bam Lord at 19. Lost that. And then I broke even Jokic 10 assists. Damn. I did I broke even. Jokic, 10 assists. Damn. I did, too.
Starting point is 00:42:47 I did Jokic, 10 assists. And then my other one was, because I always do two, Michael Porter Jr., over three threes, 0 for 3. And Gordon Heyer, 21 and a half points, rebounds, assists. I got that one. KCP, threes, none. He didn't get none. No damn.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Gabe Vincent. I had him higher. I had him higher plus 19 on everything. He had seven. Yeah, I said that I said if he don't play if he don't play well, he had seven points rebounds and assists. All right, you guys. For our mostly fan section, our favorite segment of the show.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Okay. Would you ever hit up a player after a game? I missed it. What happened? Bring it back. Bring it back. Bring it back. It went away so fast.
Starting point is 00:43:41 Would you ever hit up a player after a game? And tell him how to adjust. Would any of you guys, if one of your boys, like your boy's boy, not somebody that you casually know like your dog and he played bad or some things you wanted to help him out, would you ever hit him up in a final series and give him advice? Yup. If that's my boy, yes. If that's my son, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:04 What, your son? Yeah, that's my son is playing, but not a regular guy. Nah, watch out. You gotta figure that out. What? Man, he roofies. I like that. Oh, Chief! Hey, you know what?
Starting point is 00:44:15 Hey, you know what? Man the fuck up and figure that shit out, my nigga. I'm hitting you. Sorry ass nigga. Hey, I'm gonna take that call like, hey, my nigga, chill, relax. Let's figure this shit out, my nigga. Alright, ass nigga. So you gonna take that call like, hey my nigga, chill, relax. Let's figure this shit out, my nigga. Sorry ass nigga. So you don't the same way we be? Nah, I'm just saying, I understand.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I understand what he's saying. He's like, yo man, like at some point, like you just gotta. You think LeBron hit up CP3 after that game? Yes, probably. No. Yes. No he didn't. We talking about them two.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Like let's just say if I ask you, if I ask you. Yeah, if you ask me, yes. But I'm not gonna just hit you, hey, maybe you should do this. Yeah, you would know you wouldn't hit the player And you're the only one that would Hold motherfucking game plan Dame look hey man look at the season you you're going boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Huh? It ain't work. Well, let me rephrase that. He said it didn't work. So I'm actively...
Starting point is 00:45:08 No, no, no, no. So I'm actively... So this is a two-part question. So actively playing or retired playing? They didn't ask. So they didn't specify. Well, we got to shout them out. Jewel's Mafia.
Starting point is 00:45:21 If I'm active... Oh, it says would you ever. It says would you ever. Either one. If I'm active... It's I think it's not that. Oh, it says would you ever. It says would you ever. Either one. If you active, you ain't. It's ever, so that means now. Now, yes. I ain't got nothing to lose.
Starting point is 00:45:31 I don't have to see you again. I don't have to. So if you're wrong, you know what I'm saying? I'd be game planning. KD, when he was doing a pull up with Iguodala, and I said, he reaches low. He's not going to block you high. So when you're going for your pull up with Iguodala and I said, he reaches low, he's not gonna block you high. So when you're going for your pull up, right?
Starting point is 00:45:48 You're naturally, he's making you naturally do this. So when you go for the pull up, bounce it high and keep it. So when he goes here, he can't affect that shot. Easy. All right, that was shout out Jules Mafia for that question. Question number two is for Kenyon. While playing with J-Kid, was he the, when was the moment you realized he was him?
Starting point is 00:46:06 And this is from Kamar Shirley. Yeah, I was, I knew J. Kidd was him before he was my teammate. I was in high school when J. Kidd went to Dallas. He'd been from Dallas, he was, came to Dallas rookie, him and Grant Hill, co-rookworker of the year all that like I was Yeah, oh the three J's Hmm Jason Jimmy Jamal Jamal match boy. I was in high school. So trust me
Starting point is 00:46:34 I was Jimmy my last two years high school when he got the Dallas enough, but It was Man, I just was a few things You never thought you would be able to do in your career and I was part of the thought process, like, and that was why I played with J. Kidd. Did you realize, like, playing with him, how smart he really was? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Like, I would look at some of you guys as, like, film, and you'd be posting somebody up in here throwing at the edge of the backboard, bouncing right to you, right? Like, some of the stuff, like like he was doing, I was like. Just angles genius, man. Like he can be guarding Gilbert. Gilbert a hell of a score, just defensive, right?
Starting point is 00:47:13 And he just be here, be there. He know where to be, how to be, position hands. He just, just go. And that's great, because I always had a problem scoring against him because he was cutting off angles that I've never had cut off. And we never had a conversation. People don't understand this.
Starting point is 00:47:34 After my rookie year, he came in year two. We traded Steph for J. Kidd straight up. We never had a conversation about how he was going to play, What he expecting out of me, what I needed from him, like nothing. It just from day one, dog. Yeah. What are you guys' favorite J. Kidd moments? Man, my favorite J. Kidd moment, I heard a story, right?
Starting point is 00:47:57 J. Kidd was playing in New Jersey. So when he's going through his wife stuff, right? Through the, all the crazy, you know, and that's when he was playing his best, right? So I guess his, I heard like his wife told the son to come like go get his phone or whatever, right? And went to the locker room, got his phone, boom, boom, and came back and was like, I guess she was like
Starting point is 00:48:16 showing the phone like, yeah, I see everything. And he was like coming down the court, was like, oh, you ain't seen nothing yet. And then got to it and was doing his thing. Oh, that was cold. That was cold to me when I heard that. You ain't seen nothing yet. And then got to it and was doing his thing. Oh, that was cold. That was cold to me when I heard that. You ain't seen nothing yet? Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet.
Starting point is 00:48:30 And then went to the finals two straight years. That's crazy. Shout out, what's yours? Shout out, J. Kidd. Me and J. Kidd, we had the same agent. So he had microfracture surgery. He came back like six months, five, six months. So when I got mine, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:46 I needed some type of reassurance and talk to me and, you know, told me to take it easy. And it was going to be good because I was younger. So all the older players had had the surgery and didn't make it through. So I was one of those dudes that was like, you know, really worried about that shit. So then when I came back, he was,
Starting point is 00:49:05 you had just went to Denver. This was when Vince and RJ was there. They used to run this play where they would drop RJ and try to post me all the time. And then I ended up fronting it. And he would have this fucking counter where soon as they front that, they swung it, he would throw it behind his back.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Right to RJ for the layup and one. And I used to remember like, yo, ain't no way they call that play. Ain't no way they call that play. He did all that shit from the top. Like, oh yo, switch that. No, no, we're going right back to it. Right back to it.
Starting point is 00:49:39 Swing, swing. Man, that man used to, people used to be standing right in front of me. Just like, grown, athletic NBA player. Who is that grown? Right in front of me. He just throw the ball by the rim. Go get it. I know, I trust you to go get it.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Y'all was so good in live. But if I can't dunk it, I'm gonna come back with it. Yeah, live 2006. Them two, the men. 2005, y'all went in live, NBA live. I was so nice in that video game that manless I won't change the direction that he can run that fast Yes, you know all all straight up. Oh, there was no low like a like he's straight up Yeah, I seen him damn near tear Wally's or be a casey running at him while it was backpedaling Man, Jake hitting with that. that bop-bop.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Man, that man, I was like, yo, listen dog, running full speed, imagine if Jake here had a crazy handle. I know. Imagine if he had Kyrie. Yep. Running full speed at you and cross you. Running full speed at you, in and out you, dog. But it's hard for, to be honest,
Starting point is 00:50:44 it's hard for a really fast player to have handle because he uses his speed. So I, you know, I'm just gonna boop, boop, go. And size. Yeah. He's been that size since high school. It be that one that's like, not as fast, but still fast, and with the handle.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Those are the ones that can come down. Like John Wall had them, yeah, that dude. So, he had a handle, but he didn't use a lot of it. No, it was like that. But he was fast. He was same as J-Kid. He was same as you. He was same as J-Kid. He was same as J-Kid.
Starting point is 00:51:13 You think his handles was handles? No. No, he just got. No, he in and out you. He gonna run at you, in and out you with the left. No, he gonna in and out you with the left. John go dance in one spot and run. No, in and out you with the left. jungle, dance in one spot, and run, nah, in and out you with the left, listen man.
Starting point is 00:51:26 In and out with the left, right. Cool. Yeah, Jay Kidd should listen, dog. And then, once Kerry Killers got healthy, dog. It was a wrap. You had him on one wing. Straight on. Either he, either I'm running through,
Starting point is 00:51:38 or RJ running through, Kerry trailing, or vice versa, Kerry stopping at the three, I'm running for a lot. Say that again, say that again. You at the three. I'm running for a lot. Say that again. You was doing what? I was running through. That's what they don't do in today's game.
Starting point is 00:51:50 I'm going to run through because guess what? You got to run through. You got to go with me because if you don't run, I'm going to take two. If you don't run with me, J.K., you're throwing that bitch at the rim. Every time. It don't matter. This side of the half court, this side, you're throwing that bitch at the rim. That was basketball.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Today's game, they just run straight to the corner. Yes. They don't know basketball like you suppose the reason is all the guards have to get back right because the guards are supposed to Get back those people who are leaking out when they run under someone has to catch him No, it was the best that the old the old Utah. Just talk that they ran underneath them and you One hundred Percent of the time single time down bro run they went from calm alone They run him silly your ass on the baseline when they cross they dump that bitch down to call those booze Why don't dump that bitch? Yes? They just run straight. It's just one straight to the corner now. They don't even run all the way to the corner
Starting point is 00:52:49 You supposed to run all the way to the cut touch that damn baseline Nadia stop red at that little hash little hash Yo, Jake get a top five point guard ever who they kid. Oh, you is that a real question top five? Yeah, take it tough. Is it I mean, yeah, he's in my top five. Yeah, he's in my top five. Is that? Oh, that's not a question. But some people might not have you in the top five. Who? But top five player, like top five points are. Point guard ever. But is J.K.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Are the new scoring guards considered point guards? Yes, they are considered point guards. Yes. Yeah, but I'm just saying. They play that point guard. And to that question, it's still fucking yes. Yes. I got J.K. at top three.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Who? Who? Who better than him? Who? As points? Who? Still fucking yes. Yes. I got J.K. at top three. They're not going to win. Who? Who better than him? Who? As points? Yeah, as today. Who's better than J.K.? Besides Steph Curry. You're going to have Magic.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Magic, Steph. LeBron. He's not a point guard. LeBron's not a point guard. He's not a point guard. Let's stop it. The Big O? Gilbert, let's stop it.
Starting point is 00:53:38 But the Big O? Who? No. Not the Big O? He's not better than J.K. Hey, Gilbert, what? The Big O's not better than J.K. He's not better than J.K. at all times. What is the criteria for the better point guard? He's not better. Jakey. Hey Gilbert. What the big old not be better at all time
Starting point is 00:53:45 What is the criteria for the better point guard? He's not you don't even like What do we I'm taking Jakey it over big oh, okay Are we talking about talent doctor top I'm taking Jakey. No No, no, I'm taking Jakey, okay, youKid. Point guard. You said John Stockton's top five. No, no. I'm taking J-Kid. Okay, you can take him, but we're talking about five. John Stockton not top five?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Give me five. John Stockton's top five ever. Give me five. Point guard? Five. Steve Nash not top five ever? No. No.
Starting point is 00:54:17 No. Nash, Magic, CP3, Curry. What? I'm just reading what I'm seeing. Don't kill me. Allen Iverson not a point guard. He is. He is a point guard. Allen Iverson's not a point guard. So is. He is a point guard. Allen Iverson's not a point guard.
Starting point is 00:54:25 So I'm not putting him in there. That's unfair. And I'm not putting Chuck in there. But that's unfair to him because back then. I'm not putting Chuck in it. Because Eric Snow played the point guard. I'm not putting him in it. Eric Snow was the point guard.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Draymond Green's the point guard. Eric Snow. No, he's not. Draymond Green is powerful. But he led the team in assists every year. He's the powerful. We talking about positions. Come on the team in assists every year. He's the power forward. We talking about positions. Come on, we talking about point guard.
Starting point is 00:54:48 He's the power forward. Who controls the game? So Eric Snow's the point guard who averaged two assists. He's the point guard. Is Isaiah Thomas top five? He's the point guard. He averaged two assists. Joe Dumas was the two guard on that team.
Starting point is 00:55:01 So who was the top five? What I'm saying is Eric Snow averaged two assists. He didn't run no offense. And since he didn't run no offense. And he's the point guard. Because you don't want Chuck putting the point guard because back then they didn't allow that. Kyrie top five? Nah. Can we change the subject?
Starting point is 00:55:15 No, no. He gave me five. Kyrie not top five? Point guard? Ever? Who? I don't put my scoring guards in there, man. No?
Starting point is 00:55:26 So who do you put in there? I'm talking about point guards. Put your point guards. I got Magic. I got Steph. I got Big Kid. Steph is not in mine. I got Isaiah Thomas and I got John Stockton.
Starting point is 00:55:35 I'm going to John Stockton trash. I like that. You what? John Stockton is not trash. You said out of your mouth, boy. You heard him. He said he's trash. He said he's trash.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Start the statement off with that. Say it again. It's personal. It's personal. It's personal. It's personal. You said out of your mouth boy. He heard you heard him. Can you? He said trash. He said trash. Start the statement off with that. Say it again for the people in the back. Start the statement. Say it again. John Stockton got records that will never be broken.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I need you to double down on this. No, no, no, no. All time. All fucking time. Not one category. Is it two? Two. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:03 That's going to never be touched. Never. No, no, no. You're right. And to never be touched. Never. No, no, no. You're right. And there should be even more if you use today's assists versus the ones they was giving him. Because back then it was in score versus doing all this in scoring.
Starting point is 00:56:14 So we're not counting it? Did John Stockton get help? He should be doubled. Because the assists here, I can give it to you. You can dribble. Because the criteria is more strict. Back then, you had this goal. So he's legitimate top five.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Yeah, for sure. No, no, I'm not. Listen. Gilbert is a hater. No, no. You're a hater. I said personal. So you already know I'm Jaden.
Starting point is 00:56:32 You already know I'm Jaden. You already know I'm Jaden. Right? You already know I'm Jaden. So we're allowed to have this one Jaden. I'm picking him up full court. We got one Jaden. Everybody got one Jaden pick.
Starting point is 00:56:42 I'm picking him up full court. And then he signals the mailman to set one of them backcourt picks on me. He set you up. What? Turn me, turn me, boom! Oh nah. Young fella. Guess who's fault that is? Young fella. It's not Gilbert's fault. No, it's his fucking big who didn't call the screen. Your big should have said, yo, Gil! So guess what? Your big didn't fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:57:11 Your big didn't like you because you didn't dump him off when he was in the dunker. Yeah. Listen, I'm going to watch this. Yeah. I ain't bad at it. When my second year came and John Stock was on that court, one full flat.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Mm-hmm. Come on. court, one-four flat. Come on. Yeah. Come on. Yeah. You guys, we got a couple minutes left. Why are you rushing us? Because we got three minutes left.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Come on. Watch the clock. What you want to talk about? Question number three, mostly fans from Nugs Not Drugs. Shout out that name. Why is Michael Porter Jr. struggling so hard to play in the finals? Anybody know? Yeah. It's called a game plan.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah, he's not using his athleticism. We use it, we think he's a part of our defensive game plan. Yeah, absolutely. He's a third option. Absolutely. Yes, absolutely. But he not affecting the way that y'all play. He not a third option.
Starting point is 00:58:03 He's not Aaron Gordon. But he not affecting nothing's play. Yes, he is. Wow. It's not waiting to play. He doesn't know right now, but he not over Eric Gordon. This is will play. Yes, he is. He's the third. Yes, he does. He's their third option. What if he's making shots?
Starting point is 00:58:10 They didn't do nothing about it. He's making shots. They basically unbeatable brother said he's a third option. He hasn't played well yet. And what he did in the game one when he did in game one playing cool in game one. He didn't play well. He didn't do it in the, like he's not attacking the rim like he was, like offensive rebounder,
Starting point is 00:58:29 like for someone who's that athletic, it's kind of weird that he just settles for threes. Yeah. So it's like when J.R. Smith got the, To Cleveland. To Cleveland. And then he just started being the point shooter, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just stopped driving.
Starting point is 00:58:41 That New York K.R., you're like, ooh, what a thing for J.R., look, ah! Is it possible that the team, is it possible that the team, like, that's what they're doing, asking him to be a shooter? No. To spot up because he might get in the way of playing? It's convenient. It's non-confrontational.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It's non-confrontational. I just get to sit here and do this shit. Just get to shoot it. That's all I got to do. But like, if he was doing what Brown was doing, you know, running out of corner, going in, nobody's going to go in there and dunk some of them easy baskets.
Starting point is 00:59:13 All right, you guys, that's our show for tonight. Gillsburg will be back tomorrow about 15 hours, 1130 AM Pacific time, right here. Josiah will be in his own chair. Won't be me. We appreciate you me we appreciate you appreciate you Outro Music

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